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enforcer_upu
10-15-2012, 12:30 PM
I saw the "REDSKINS WIN!" thread and felt the need to start another from a fan that isn't delusional and actually understands football. No doubt this is the scariest game of the season for us. We have yet to face a defense like the Giants have and you guys can put up points and in a hurry (which our defense is no stranger to this season!). I definitely think we always have a chance to win with RG3 at the helm this year, but am not going to blow it out of proportion and act as if we're just going to walk over what may be the best team in the NFL right now.

That being said, I think a lot of the NFL still has the idea that RG3 is just a college-style QB who is just lucky and/or overrated. What I think is missed is he leads the league with a 70+% completion percentage, 100+ QB rating (2nd to only P. Manning) and I believe also leads the league in yards per completion. He's deadly accurate on the run and incredibly patient and fearless to just stand in the pocket and deliver a pass. Not to mention, he's done this with virtually all no-name receivers with Garcon being out almost the entire year. Add Morris and a shockingly good O-line to the equation and you have a very dangerous offense...which we aren't used to here in Redskins land!

Of course, then you have our defense (ugh). Luckily, they're far better in the redzone than I think they're given credit for, so if they can force you guys in to long drives and eliminate the big play (ala Mr. Cruz), they may have a shot at keeping this close going in the final minutes. The Giants have weapons all over the place, so our front 4 will need to get pressure and fast to keep it from getting out of hand.

I'm at work or I'd be more detailed and I apologize if anything is off/inaccurate as I wrote this in a hurry.

All-in-all, can't wait for this game and best of luck to you guys!

njg85m
10-15-2012, 12:36 PM
Giants fans don't typically look forward to this game. Redskins always play us tough no matter what.

And I'll be honest, that 76 yd run by RG3 yesterday frightened the heck out of me. I knew he was fast, but I admittingly didn't realize he was THAT fast. I pray that we can seal the edge and contain him and make him beat us with his arm.

Moke
10-15-2012, 12:41 PM
You guys beat us with Rex Grossman. Anything can happen. I like it when realistic fans want to talk football. As for the other guy, he was a delusional ****toid.

enforcer_upu
10-15-2012, 12:42 PM
That's what I like about him. He's incredible from the pocket. My real worry would be our lack of a real #1 being exposed as a result. He can make the throws, but can they run the routes against that Giants D? That I'm not certain of. =\

TheAnalyst
10-15-2012, 12:45 PM
Should be a tough game. RG3 will be a very good QB. He looks like he is very tough and has a very accurate arm. I was thrilled for the skins that they got him, and not the Eagles or Cowboys. With that said, he isnt as big as a Cam Newton, isnt as quick as Vick. He is somewhere in between, but a far better pocket passer. His weakness will be, as most running style QBs, taking all those hits. He already had 1 concussion. The Giants can knock out a QB with the best of them. Not wishing it, but wouldn't be shocked if it did happen. I actually think a good comparison to "Bob Griffen" is Romo. Both are tough QBs, willing to take hits, and can scramble around in the pocket and make solid throws. Romo has a tendency to show his "Brett Favre" gene a bit too much though and make some costly INTs. RG3 hasnt, so far. But we will see how he fairs after repeatedly getting drilled through the weeks and years. Romo has killed us in the past with the throws on the run, and that is what scares me about RG3 more then his running. (Obviously RG3 is way faster then Romo.)

Redskins fans can finally feel good though because they have a hell of a QB and an exciting offense.

Giants just shut down the 49ers run game though, which was ranked #1 going into the game. I feel we can contain the skins run game as well, and make RG3 run/pass it more. Our running game is starting to really take off. This is what is propelling us to these big wins lately. And the emergence of David Wilson is becoming evident. Dude is a beast on kick returns and it is starting to translate behind the QB.

I feel the loss of Orakpo destroyed your defense though. It is going to be tough to bounce back from that. You need depth in the NFL, as a Giants fan, I know this all to well. I dont see the defense stopping the Giants offense, even with Barry Cofield giving away our signals again, lol. For the first time next weekend, we may be 100% healthy on the recieving corps. Nicks is still not 100%, but should be close to it on Sunday. Cruz is Cruz, straight nasty. Hixon has stepped into the 3rd WR role and is doing very well. Not to mention Bennett, Barden, Randle all stepping up when their numbers are called.

With that said, I think it will be a classic NFC East Battle. We are 0-2 in the East, and I feel like "the better team lost" vs Dallas and Philly, but they were not better on that day. Giants are hungry for that first NFC East win, and need it here. Hopefully the A team shows up for the GMen, cause us fans know they tend to play up and down to their opponents.

Go Giants

Welcome to the boards.

njg85m
10-15-2012, 01:05 PM
Should be a tough game. RG3 will be a very good QB. He looks like he is very tough and has a very accurate arm. I was thrilled for the skins that they got him, and not the Eagles or Cowboys. With that said, he isnt as big as a Cam Newton, isnt as quick as Vick. He is somewhere in between, but a far better pocket passer. His weakness will be, as most running style QBs, taking all those hits. He already had 1 concussion. The Giants can knock out a QB with the best of them. Not wishing it, but wouldn't be shocked if it did happen.

If we're talking straight line speed then Vick isn't even close to as fast as RG3 IMO. In fact, I'm not sure if 2001 Michael Vick is either. But I will concede the fact that Vick is more of a shady, slippery runner than RG3.

And you're absolutely right about this week and taking the hits. If the Giants get pressure on RG3 then this game will be his on the field training and we'll get to see exactly how tough this kid is.

enforcer_upu
10-15-2012, 01:33 PM
If we're talking straight line speed then Vick isn't even close to as fast as RG3 IMO. In fact, I'm not sure if 2001 Michael Vick is either. But I will concede the fact that Vick is more of a shady, slippery runner than RG3.

And you're absolutely right about this week and taking the hits. If the Giants get pressure on RG3 then this game will be his on the field training and we'll get to see exactly how tough this kid is.

It definitely worries most of us. Though he showed an obvious improvement from the get-go against the Vikings on when to face contact and when not to. Obviously no matter what, he stands a greater chance of injury the more he runs. All I know is in the 29 years I've been alive (24 or so I can actually remember, lol), I don't recall having a player of this talent on the roster.

TheAnalyst
10-15-2012, 01:59 PM
It definitely worries most of us. Though he showed an obvious improvement from the get-go against the Vikings on when to face contact and when not to. Obviously no matter what, he stands a greater chance of injury the more he runs. All I know is in the 29 years I've been alive (24 or so I can actually remember, lol), I don't recall having a player of this talent on the roster.

Sean Taylor
Deion Sanders

enforcer_upu
10-15-2012, 02:13 PM
Sean Taylor
Deion Sanders

I'm not sure I'm willing to put Deion on there, but without a doubt ST was the best defender they've ever had (I do mean ever). But I've blocked that from my mind just to avoid thinking about what could/should have been :(

GiantWarfare
10-15-2012, 02:34 PM
If we're talking straight line speed then Vick isn't even close to as fast as RG3 IMO. In fact, I'm not sure if 2001 Michael Vick is either. But I will concede the fact that Vick is more of a shady, slippery runner than RG3.

And you're absolutely right about this week and taking the hits. If the Giants get pressure on RG3 then this game will be his on the field training and we'll get to see exactly how tough this kid is.

I was stunned at RG3's 76 yrd run yesterday simply because I didn't realize how fast the kid is. It didn't look like he was going that fast but dude could not be caught and it looked effortless. You just don't see speed like that from a QB...

TheAnalyst
10-15-2012, 02:45 PM
I'm not sure I'm willing to put Deion on there, but without a doubt ST was the best defender they've ever had (I do mean ever). But I've blocked that from my mind just to avoid thinking about what could/should have been :(

He would of been one of if not the greatest ever to play the game. I actually enjoyed watching him more then any other player outside of the Giants in the NFL. Such a shame. He was going to be something special.

He was actually who I wanted the Giants to draft in 04', over a QB cause we had Kurt Warner.

BleedBlueATL
10-15-2012, 03:23 PM
We are flying up to NY to see this game. I want to see the RG3 hype live! I fully believe that our D will show up again as they are definitely showing improvement and they will give RG3 an NFL wake up call... similar to the Panthers game. ( We went to that one and it was quite enjoyable, their fans were REALLY quiet in the 2nd half and vacating at a rapid rate) I know the Skins always play us hard, but the Gmen know how crucial this Divisional game is.. and the sleeping GIANTS have been awakened these last 2 weeks. I see RG3getting his bell rung like the Hunchback came to town....

Giants 24 - Skins 10

enforcer_upu
10-15-2012, 03:40 PM
I can certainly see our offense struggling a bit, but I'm not sure about holding them to 10 points, if only because they've already scored on defense 3 times this season and each of the last 2 weeks. Their front 7 get far more pressure than they get credit for, it's just that the secondary doesn't allow for many "coverage sacks".

Regardless, it always seems like the game we play at the Meadowlands is the hardest of the year (at least for the past few). I'll be nervous no matter what, lol.

(And let's be fair here, any smart Giants fan has at least a little worry about what RG3 can do!)

BleedBlueATL
10-15-2012, 03:51 PM
I don't believe this will be a cakewalk... but let's look at the speculation vs. the outcome of the Niners game. I believe our biggest feat will be containing RG3, but I will say when the Gmen start to get hot ( like right now) we can expect results. We won't be coming into this game like we did against them last year.... over confident. We are getting healthier and starting to look like last year at the end of the season... It will be a great game to be at and I am looking forward to it!

enforcer_upu
10-15-2012, 03:53 PM
I don't believe this will be a cakewalk... but let's look at the speculation vs. the outcome of the Niners game. I believe our biggest feat will be containing RG3, but I will say when the Gmen start to get hot ( like right now) we can expect results. We won't be coming into this game like we did against them last year.... over confident. We are getting healthier and starting to look like last year at the end of the season... It will be a great game to be at and I am looking forward to it!

I'm jealous you get to go, lol. Though I was at the Vikes game and WOW did FedEx get loud!!

BleedBlueATL
10-15-2012, 04:05 PM
LOL..Thanks... I live in Atlanta, but am originally from NY... We try to go to at least 4 games a season.. 2+ home and 2 away and see some new stadiums each year. FedEx was a bit rowdy when we were there. We will never go to Philly again... rudest, nastiest fans I have ever seen. Although division rivals... Skins fans have always been pretty cool!

I do think you will see the Gmen develop some more urgency in our Division games the next few weeks though. Plus our running game/ O Line are really starting to gel, and the defense is really waking up. I really think it will be a tough one for your Skins!!!

PRGiant
10-15-2012, 07:03 PM
I believe Vick had a faster 40 but that Vick is long gone...

bigblue2088
10-15-2012, 07:19 PM
I think it could be a shoot out but the way we defended the option this year im not worried bout that. In the end should be a great game but I think we have the advantage in almost every position. 31- 20 Giants

BParcells777
10-15-2012, 07:50 PM
If we're talking straight line speed then Vick isn't even close to as fast as RG3 IMO. In fact, I'm not sure if 2001 Michael Vick is either. But I will concede the fact that Vick is more of a shady, slippery runner than RG3.

And you're absolutely right about this week and taking the hits. If the Giants get pressure on RG3 then this game will be his on the field training and we'll get to see exactly how tough this kid is.

Really? Vick is #5 on the all time best combine 40 yd dash

Bo Jackson is #1, Dion Sanders #2

Riverdance
10-15-2012, 08:16 PM
OP, why are you lying to them? We are nothing but pure scumbag trash and we are damn proud of it. You know why? Because we here in DC don't give a **** what anyone thinks of us, unlike rest of the country.There has been a lot of resentment down here against the Giants for their lucky ways and we hate you almost as much as the Cowgirls. You thought Eagles/Cowgirls fans were annoying? You thought Niners fans were degenerate? Well you haven't seen anything yet. This rivalry is about to turn up a notch. We haven't had much to cheer for in years past but now that we due we have a whole lotta **** to talkHAIL TO THE ****ING REDSKINS

bigblue2088
10-15-2012, 08:25 PM
OP, why are you lying to them? We are nothing but pure scumbag trash and we are damn proud of it. You know why? Because we here in DC don't give a **** what anyone thinks of us, unlike rest of the country.There has been a lot of resentment down here against the Giants for their lucky ways and we hate you almost as much as the Cowgirls. You thought Eagles/Cowgirls fans were annoying? You thought Niners fans were degenerate? Well you haven't seen anything yet. This rivalry is about to turn up a notch. We haven't had much to cheer for in years past but now that we due we have a whole lotta **** to talkHAIL TO THE ****ING REDSKINSdude honestly lay off your meth habits, looks like its really gettin to you

enforcer_upu
10-16-2012, 12:02 AM
I think it could be a shoot out but the way we defended the option this year im not worried bout that. In the end should be a great game but I think we have the advantage in almost every position. 31- 20 Giants

Win, lose or draw, I hope this specific misconception gets put to rest this week. The Redskins actually run very little of these plays anymore. Every week gets further and further away from a college-style-looking offense.

Tj.Tomahawk
10-16-2012, 12:04 AM
Redskins win, we are smarter, better smelling, and have the fastest qb in the league. Hail

GMan-67
10-16-2012, 02:38 AM
gotta be very exciting for you guys ... altho in classic football irony now that you finally have a franchise QB for the 1st time in like forever ... even some of your Super Bowl winning QBs werent exactly household names

anyway, now that you finally have one ... your D is, at least, statiscally not holding up it's end of the deal ... now it can be misleading, you get into shootouts and the yards can really start to pile up, but i imagine it is still frustrating

njg85m
10-16-2012, 11:48 AM
Really? Vick is #5 on the all time best combine 40 yd dash

Bo Jackson is #1, Dion Sanders #2

Do you have a source for that? I've never heard that before about the dog killer and i'd be interested to see that..
I know Bo supposedly ran a 4.1 or something like that, but before times were electronically registered they were known to be greatly exaggerated.

TroyArcher
10-16-2012, 05:40 PM
Giants have had a tendency to come out flat 2-3 times a year when up against supposedly inferior opponents. They did it this year against the Browns and luckily put together a second half blitz. They also did not start out well against the Bucs. I would hope after what happended last year they will be pumped up for this game even after the big win over the 49ers this week, I think they will spy Griffin and just let the front 4 pressure RG3. Redskins don't have the receivers to match the Giants and although RG3 has been impressive as a rookie he can't yet be compared to Eli when it comes to reading defenses and throwing the ball. Redskins D seems very weak and I would be shocked if the Giants score less than 30. 31-17 is my prediction for what it's worth.

Ghost21
10-16-2012, 05:49 PM
Vick's 40 time came from his pro-day, and was hand timed. Basically, it's about as accurate as Hellen Keller pitching.

OX1
10-16-2012, 06:48 PM
Put up 26 on one of the best D's in the league.
No problem putting up 38 against you guys.
And you guys might put up 30, but
your going to have to to even have a chance.

Riggins44
10-17-2012, 12:53 AM
If we can win this game, after the G-Men just put a beatdown on one of the better teams in the loaded NFC, it would alter my expdctations for this season a little. We don't win this game without turnovers though. Can't wait for this game though. Last year felt real good after 2-3 years of getting embarrassed. Hopefully we can make it three in a row.