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Diamondring
11-05-2012, 07:36 AM
Look, coaching is very important but the players do need to execute as well. They didn't do that. Now if Eli is able to make adjustmeents, then it has got to be on him. Cruz and Nicks can't do it all and they do have weaknesses. This is why I said we need to use the 3 wr set as our primary set cause all of our talents on the field at the same time would help them out by increasing their chances for success. We don't have a good fb to use the two back set and not enough talented Tes for a two te set. The wrs are the strong points and they are not getting it done. Yet it is not their fault though cause the backs aren't being used as receivers. This could fall on Eli if he is able to make adjustments.

Our defense did very well but the Steelers Offense is good to. Our offense didn't help the defense out so that should fall on the players not the coaches.

RoanokeFan
11-05-2012, 07:41 AM
Look, coaching is very important but the players do need to execute as well. They didn't do that. Now if Eli is able to make adjustmeents, then it has got to be on him. Cruz and Nicks can't do it all and they do have weaknesses. This is why I said we need to use the 3 wr set as our primary set cause all of our talents on the field at the same time would help them out by increasing their chances for success. We don't have a good fb to use the two back set and not enough talented Tes for a two te set. The wrs are the strong points and they are not getting it done. Yet it is not their fault though cause the backs aren't being used as receivers. This could fall on Eli if he is able to make adjustments.

Our defense did very well but the Steelers Offense is good to. Our offense didn't help the defense out so that should fall on the players not the coaches.

This has been a trend that, should it continue, will make it extremely difficult to repeat. We are still well placed in the Division but we can't win playoff games with the effort we've seen lately.

Yesterday , the defense played well enough to win the game but the offense hung them out to dry.

Diamondring
11-05-2012, 07:48 AM
This has been a trend that, should it continue, will make it extremely difficult to repeat. We are still well placed in the Division but we can't win playoff games with the effort we've seen lately.

Yesterday , the defense played well enough to win the game but the offense hung them out to dry.Maybe I over estimated the talent on this team. I thought Hixon would be a threat along with Reuben and the backs in the passing game, but I've seen nothing special from them.

Buddy333
11-05-2012, 07:50 AM
Or are they just not that good? The defense has really not been that good this season. Now they have no offense and for some reason they are intentionally trying to get worse by starting Diehl.

bigjeep
11-05-2012, 07:52 AM
Look, coaching is very important but the players do need to execute as well. They didn't do that. Now if Eli is able to make adjustmeents, then it has got to be on him. Cruz and Nicks can't do it all and they do have weaknesses. This is why I said we need to use the 3 wr set as our primary set cause all of our talents on the field at the same time would help them out by increasing their chances for success. We don't have a good fb to use the two back set and not enough talented Tes for a two te set. The wrs are the strong points and they are not getting it done. Yet it is not their fault though cause the backs aren't being used as receivers. This could fall on Eli if he is able to make adjustments.

Our defense did very well but the Steelers Offense is good to. Our offense didn't help the defense out so that should fall on the players not the coaches.

"The Players Got to Play better" Humm?

Diamondring
11-05-2012, 07:55 AM
Or are they just not that good? The defense has really not been that good this season. Now they have no offense and for some reason they are intentionally trying to get worse by starting Diehl.It seems like they aren't that good but something has got to give. Giants beaten the 49ers and now the seem to like vanish. They are not doing what I said they needed to do and that is score a lot of points. I guess they aren't that type. I'm hope that I am wrong next week.

BillTheGreek
11-05-2012, 08:15 AM
Look, coaching is very important but the players do need to execute as well. They didn't do that. Now if Eli is able to make adjustmeents, then it has got to be on him. Cruz and Nicks can't do it all and they do have weaknesses. This is why I said we need to use the 3 wr set as our primary set cause all of our talents on the field at the same time would help them out by increasing their chances for success. We don't have a good fb to use the two back set and not enough talented Tes for a two te set. The wrs are the strong points and they are not getting it done. Yet it is not their fault though cause the backs aren't being used as receivers. This could fall on Eli if he is able to make adjustments.

Our defense did very well but the Steelers Offense is good to. Our offense didn't help the defense out so that should fall on the players not the coaches.

True.............you have said that before..............But no one listens !

Zaggs
11-05-2012, 08:21 AM
Our defense did very well but the Steelers Offense is good to. Our offense didn't help the defense out so that should fall on the players not the coaches.

No, no they didn't. Making Redman look good means they played like crap. There still seems to be quite a bit of confusion on the defense. It still relies on the pass rush as its primary pass defense. The best way to negate a pass rush is quick passes, yet they're playing soft zones so the other teams can keep dink and dunking it down the field.

BigBlue1971
11-05-2012, 08:25 AM
Look, coaching is very important but the players do need to execute as well. They didn't do that. Now if Eli is able to make adjustmeents, then it has got to be on him. Cruz and Nicks can't do it all and they do have weaknesses. This is why I said we need to use the 3 wr set as our primary set cause all of our talents on the field at the same time would help them out by increasing their chances for success. We don't have a good fb to use the two back set and not enough talented Tes for a two te set. The wrs are the strong points and they are not getting it done. Yet it is not their fault though cause the backs aren't being used as receivers. This could fall on Eli if he is able to make adjustments.

Our defense did very well but the Steelers Offense is good to. Our offense didn't help the defense out so that should fall on the players not the coaches.

good coaching is essential to win nfl games. players are motivated 1st by coaching 2nd by teammates and 3rd for themselves!

yesterday players in all phases failed to do their jobs. the offense and special teams sucked all game and the defense let us down in the 2nd half imo.

we have good enough players in most positions but execution or lack of it is the real cause for the demise yesterday.

noone seemed interested in the game yesterday thats why i look at it as a "collective" letdown by everyone! we'll get back and this 3rd loss will be forgotten in a coupla weeks.

CDN_G-FAN
11-05-2012, 08:26 AM
this is the old fan crutch.

our players are fine, its the coaches.

if its the coaches, then you're one or two moves away from being 'fixed'.

if its the players, then you've got a much bigger problem.

and we've got a much bigger problem.

all of a sudden, when we're not considered the underdog anymore, we start to suck.

i just don't understand the mentality of this team sometimes.

Marvelousmik
11-05-2012, 08:31 AM
good coaching is essential to win nfl games. players are motivated 1st by coaching 2nd by teammates and 3rd for themselves!

You've never played football havent you?

CDN_G-FAN
11-05-2012, 08:33 AM
You've never played football havent you?

+1.

Buddy333
11-05-2012, 08:38 AM
It seems like they aren't that good but something has got to give. Giants beaten the 49ers and now the seem to like vanish. They are not doing what I said they needed to do and that is score a lot of points. I guess they aren't that type. I'm hope that I am wrong next week.When they beat the 49ers I too was very excited but lets think about that game for a second. Does Smith scare anyone? So the Giants where able to beat a good one dimensional team. I won't take anything away from that win, it was impressive, but it was the only really good win of the year. Tampa is better than I thought but still not an elite team. To get better Nicks needs to be healthy and hat may not happen until next year. They also miss Manningham. Unless someone can step up to fill his shoes teams will start to pound on Cruz and they know Nicks is not the same. It's also like they are trying to lose by starting Diehl.

CDN_G-FAN
11-05-2012, 08:42 AM
When they beat the 49ers I too was very excited but lets think about that game for a second. Does Smith scare anyone? So the Giants where able to beat a good one dimensional team. I won't take anything away from that win, it was impressive, but it was the only really good win of the year. Tampa is better than I thought but still not an elite team. To get better Nicks needs to be healthy and hat may not happen until next year. They also miss Manningham. Unless someone can step up to fill his shoes teams will start to pound on Cruz and they know Nicks is not the same. It's also like they are trying to lose by starting Diehl.

good call on the 49ers game. we got ahead in that game and exposed a QB that can't play from behind.

they all need to get better. starting with Eli. He's not playing well. At all.

good news is other than the washington game, our struggles on offense are coming against VERY good defenses. Falcons averaged 27 points this season and couldn't put up more than 19 against the Cowboys at home.

still, it's gotta get fixed, and if we can't get the whole run offense unit playing better immediately, then it has to start with eli.

sodbuster
11-05-2012, 01:01 PM
this is the old fan crutch.

our players are fine, its the coaches.

if its the coaches, then you're one or two moves away from being 'fixed'.

if its the players, then you've got a much bigger problem.

and we've got a much bigger problem.

all of a sudden, when we're not considered the underdog anymore, we start to suck.

i just don't understand the mentality of this team sometimes.i did not see tom or any of the coaches. mis tackles, drop passes, mis blocks, mis fiedgoals,run the wrong pass patern.throw bad passes, players play, coaches can only do so much!!!!

brad
11-05-2012, 01:32 PM
When you see an offense collapse the way we have over the past few weeks... it is rarely a simple answer. "It's the players" or "It's the coaches" are both fan favorites and usually both wrong. More likely it is a combination of the two.

Coaches are supposed to make adjustments and correct player mistakes during the game, and players need to fix the mistakes the coaches are pointing out.

Coaches are supposed to come up with schemes that take advantage of a weakness or cover our own, players need to execute those schemes.

Coaches decide what personnel should be in the game at any given moment and when to pull them because they aren't playing well. Players need to be ready to execute when called on.

It is a team effort and to say coaches have no impact on the game is as ridiculous as saying it is only the coaches fault. Coaches and players share in the glory of a win, and they share in the agony of defeat.