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gfanblue
11-11-2012, 05:32 PM
Dude. You blasted your defense publicly callinfg them soft. Problem Is you've gotten soft. You need to look back at the ***** you were in your early days here. Yea you changed to keep strahan happy but being the kinder gentler grandpa figure isn't working anymore. Time for a gut-check. Build the bridge or jump from It. Your choice. But you've mailed it in. Nut up or shut up.

NYGFaninILL
11-11-2012, 05:41 PM
Dude. You blasted your defense publicly callinfg them soft. Problem Is you've gotten soft. You need to look back at the ***** you were in your early days here. Yea you changed to keep strahan happy but being the kinder gentler grandpa figure isn't working anymore. Time for a gut-check. Build the bridge or jump from It. Your choice. But you've mailed it in. Nut up or shut up.

It's funny because people have said since he changed his attitude (after the 2006) season is one of the reasons he earned his players respect and won 2 SBs.

And don't like he's not pissed off at the team.

gfanblue
11-11-2012, 06:08 PM
Well he earned those guys respect. True. But at some point don't you have to look in the mirror? He really should start with Kg and Pf. The job they've done is embarrassing. Maybe KG should be in the booth. I don't know. I'm frustrated like everyone.

burier
11-11-2012, 06:12 PM
My only problem with Tom Coughlin is his idiotic personel decisions. Someone tell me why David Diehl was ever entered as the starter at RT in the first place? It was obvious that he couldn't play that position. By the grace of God he got hurt. ( I know that sounds harsh but if Coughlin would have left him on the bench where he belongs he wouldn't have gotten hurt in the first place) the Oline immediately...AND I MEAN IMMEDIATELY plays better when Diehl leaves the game. I mean the very next play the oline got better...So you put Diehl back in the lineup???? Is Tom Coughlin being extorted by David Diehl???

What coach sits there and refuses to give his first round draft choice any opportunites when the starter is ineffective and suffering from fumblitis? I've never heard of this. I've never seen anything like this in all my years as a fan.

Eli is struggling. What do you do when you're QB is struggling? You

A) Bench him. (Not gonna happen)

b) Run the ball (Can't run the ball)

c) Implement more west coast concepts into the offense so that the QB can get easy completions.

The correct answer is C. This has been in issue with KGs offense for the word go. When the protection is good. When guys are getting open and seeing everything the same way the QB is seeing it. And the QB is throwing frozen ropes all over the place then the offense looks great. Right now none of that **** is working so we need to get all of that read option **** out of the offense and get back to basics.. Ins Outs Slants Shakes and Goes until we get our act together. This is obvious.

I'm not hitting the panic button and I know we're gonna get it together. I honestly believe we just need a bye week. But I'm extremely frustrated.

Also let this be lesson to you people who thought that our roster didn't need any upgrades because we won the Superbowl.

Boley's 2011 was a fluke and the rest of our linebackers are unimpressive. Our Corners are unimpressive and our front 4 is overrated.

mike kennedy
11-11-2012, 06:34 PM
When your QB is struggling, KG's answer is 1st and long pass, 2nd and draw and 3RD AND LONG PASS WITH A CHANCE OF BEING SACKED OR 3RD AND 2 YARD PASS .

NYGFaninILL
11-11-2012, 06:43 PM
When your QB is struggling, KG's answer is 1st and long pass, 2nd and draw and 3RD AND LONG PASS WITH A CHANCE OF BEING SACKED OR 3RD AND 2 YARD PASS .

That's the thing, KG didn't decide to throw the ball deep. Eli chose those routes to throw to, all the routes have a short guy you can go to.

ManningToJPP
11-11-2012, 06:47 PM
WE NEED MORE SLANTS, SIMPLE IN AND OUT ROUTES.

I mean seriously though, did we run a simle slant over the middle for 4-6 yards once today? I mean a planned slant....not a "sight adjustment" slant. A pure, ok, 2 crossing routes underneath, GO. ???? cmon KG i can learn more about a struggling offense from Madden than i can from watching you.

stormblue
11-11-2012, 06:51 PM
My only problem with Tom Coughlin is his idiotic personel decisions. Someone tell me why David Diehl was ever entered as the starter at RT in the first place? It was obvious that he couldn't play that position. By the grace of God he got hurt. ( I know that sounds harsh but if Coughlin would have left him on the bench where he belongs he wouldn't have gotten hurt in the first place) the Oline immediately...AND I MEAN IMMEDIATELY plays better when Diehl leaves the game. I mean the very next play the oline got better...So you put Diehl back in the lineup???? Is Tom Coughlin being extorted by David Diehl???

What coach sits there and refuses to give his first round draft choice any opportunites when the starter is ineffective and suffering from fumblitis? I've never heard of this. I've never seen anything like this in all my years as a fan.

Eli is struggling. What do you do when you're QB is struggling? You

A) Bench him. (Not gonna happen)

b) Run the ball (Can't run the ball)

c) Implement more west coast concepts into the offense so that the QB can get easy completions.

The correct answer is C. This has been in issue with KGs offense for the word go. When the protection is good. When guys are getting open and seeing everything the same way the QB is seeing it. And the QB is throwing frozen ropes all over the place then the offense looks great. Right now none of that **** is working so we need to get all of that read option **** out of the offense and get back to basics.. Ins Outs Slants Shakes and Goes until we get our act together. This is obvious.

I'm not hitting the panic button and I know we're gonna get it together. I honestly believe we just need a bye week. But I'm extremely frustrated.

Also let this be lesson to you people who thought that our roster didn't need any upgrades because we won the Superbowl.

Boley's 2011 was a fluke and the rest of our linebackers are unimpressive. Our Corners are unimpressive and our front 4 is overrated.

if only you were on the coaching staff..........but alas.

mikeq6722
11-11-2012, 06:55 PM
That's the thing, KG didn't decide to throw the ball deep. Eli chose those routes to throw to, all the routes have a short guy you can go to.

Except that half the time the short guy is the back, who ends up having to try and block whoever Diehl lets go by. There was a play on 3rd and 1 today where the shortest route was about 12-15 yards down the field and the line got blown up. Thats just a terrible call by Killdrive.

nycisgreat
11-11-2012, 06:59 PM
Well, at least he admitted somewhat that the oline didn't protect Eli as much. Eli was getting Vic like treatment today.

mike kennedy
11-11-2012, 08:09 PM
WE NEED MORE SLANTS, SIMPLE IN AND OUT ROUTES.

I mean seriously though, did we run a simle slant over the middle for 4-6 yards once today? I mean a planned slant....not a "sight adjustment" slant. A pure, ok, 2 crossing routes underneath, GO. ???? cmon KG i can learn more about a struggling offense from Madden than i can from watching you.

I have been a Giant fan for years. What is a slant?

mike kennedy
11-11-2012, 08:10 PM
Well, at least he admitted somewhat that the oline didn't protect Eli as much. Eli was getting Vic like treatment today.


As much as I do not like Vic, He needs to retire or else he is gonna be a vegetable soon.

moosedrool
11-11-2012, 08:22 PM
I have been a Giant fan for years. What is a slant?

Something our defense can't stop.

ManningToJPP
11-11-2012, 08:23 PM
and something our offense hasnt run since Toomer and Hilliard were our #1 and #2

ManningToJPP
11-11-2012, 08:24 PM
BAHAHAHAHAH they missed the extra point!! HA

giant-4-life
11-11-2012, 08:48 PM
sorry everyone but, didn't our OTHER RB's do well? we need a run game badly.

gfanblue
11-11-2012, 09:12 PM
sorry everyone but, didn't our OTHER RB's do well? we need a run game badly.I couldnt watch after it was 14-0 but yea. Brown ran good. LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES! We are the only ones who see it....

Cloud57
11-11-2012, 09:19 PM
I couldnt watch after it was 14-0 but yea. Brown ran good. LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES! We are the only ones who see it....

are you saying the coaches have vision problems?

joemorrisforprez
11-11-2012, 09:22 PM
I have been a Giant fan for years. What is a slant?

LOL

Harooni
11-11-2012, 09:26 PM
no he doesnt need to get meaner , he called out the defense and now he has to call out the offense and hold gilstash and waterboy responsible!! no more denial ,this offense has been sliding for over a month and we said it would cost us games and now it has,

YATittle1962
11-11-2012, 09:28 PM
plays were taking an unbelievably long time to develop today

after all the talk this week about taking it back to the basics I am shocked that the routes today were not more of the high percentage variety

jaxnygmen
11-11-2012, 09:30 PM
Agreed with the personel decisions. Dieh was beat for three sacks today. Eli struggled and gave up to idiotic int's. The WR are not getting open, also it looked on replays that they were not trying to get open. We do not do enough quick slants, not enough screens. It is obvioulsy that brown and wilson need to be involved more. We need to draft another corner. Webster is a joke this year. He is on pace to give up over a 1000 plus yards to opposing WR. Were are the LB's??? Where is the pressure on the QB!!! We might want to look at reducing some players playing time or benching them, and Eli does not get a pass. He is locking in to much on one WR. On one play he it Bennett over the middle but had cruz on a fly pattern running ten yards in front of the DB.