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RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 01:33 PM
http://www.giants101.com/2012/11/13/new-york-giants-hosting-running-back-kahlil-bell-for-a-workout/

Excerpt: "It's workout Tuesday across the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/), and although most workouts are private, Conor Orr of The Star-Ledger has word that the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants will workout a number of players today, including former Chicago Bears running back Kahlil Bell (https://twitter.com/ConorTOrr/status/268384812786651136).

Bell went undrafted out of UCLA in 2009, but was signed to the Minnesota Vikings practice squad where he spent three months. Shortly after being released, he was signed as a free agent by the Chicago Bears to their practice squad and eventually activated to their 53-man roster. In 22 career games with the Bears, Bell rushed for 589 yards on 131 carries (4.5 ypc). He also hauled in 21 receptions for 148 yards and a touchdown." Read more...

ShakeandBake
11-13-2012, 01:38 PM
This thread is going to get interesting

Toadofsteel
11-13-2012, 01:39 PM
uhh... do the Giants really have zero faith in Wilson that we're going to work out a UDFA that got cut by the Bears and Vikings?

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 01:40 PM
Sounds like due diligence in case Bradshaw's tests aren't favorable

GMAN2K9
11-13-2012, 01:41 PM
How's his pass blocking?

That is the #1 criteria the coaches are concerned with in determining if a RUNNING back is useful

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 01:42 PM
uhh... do the Giants really have zero faith in Wilson that we're going to work out a UDFA that got cut by the Bears and Vikings?

Not necessarily. I think they are just looking at players as they do all season long . BUT, Bradshaw is having tests conducted and they may think it best to see what insurance players are available.

dezzzR
11-13-2012, 01:42 PM
doesnt sound good for bradshaw.

dezzzR
11-13-2012, 01:45 PM
How's his pass blocking?

That is the #1 criteria the coaches are concerned with in determining if a RUNNING back is usefulI would think Brown and even Wilson would have a better understanding of the blocking assignments.

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 01:45 PM
Based on his stat sheet, I'd say he was, at best, being considered for the # 3 RB if Bradshaw's tests suggest he go to IR

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12488/kahlil-bell

jakegibbs
11-13-2012, 01:50 PM
uhh... do the Giants really have zero faith in Wilson that we're going to work out a UDFA that got cut by the Bears and Vikings?

uhh....yep

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 01:53 PM
uhh....yep

I don't agree. Wilson should be way ahead in terms of the Playbook. Brown becomes the # 1, Wilson #2 ,and whoever # 3 until performance alters that rotation.

Ruttiger711
11-13-2012, 01:54 PM
Sounds like due diligence in case Bradshaw's tests aren't favorable

The most likely scenario... im sure they dont have news either way about bradshaw yet.... although when you get a "battery" of tests its usually not good.

BlueSanta
11-13-2012, 01:57 PM
uhh....yep

Even if the Giants have ALL the faith in the world in Wilson, you still need to replace Bradshaws roster spot. Its not like you can just say " oh well Ab is out for a while(assuming that is the case), lets just go with 2 Rbs."

Toadofsteel
11-13-2012, 01:57 PM
How about activating Martinek from the PS?

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 01:58 PM
The most likely scenario... im sure they dont have news either way about bradshaw yet.... although when you get a "battery" of tests its usually not good.

When I read that it did seem an odd phrase. I wondered if TC were sending a message. Couple that with Brown starting on Sunday and maybe there really is change in the wind.

joemorrisforprez
11-13-2012, 02:03 PM
How's his pass blocking?

That is the #1 criteria the coaches are concerned with in determining if a RUNNING back is useful

We should just sign an offensive lineman and convert him to Running Back.

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 02:04 PM
How about activating Martinek from the PS?

That's another option buy we need to see what the tests on Bradshaw reveal

dezzzR
11-13-2012, 02:05 PM
We should just sign an offensive lineman and convert him to Running Back." number 69 is now an eligible running back"

DownWitJPP
11-13-2012, 02:08 PM
How about activating Martinek from the PS?

this is the best option..he should already know the playbook fairly well and he is known for his blocking. As far as Bradshaw goes the guy is a warrior playing through all these injuries, but he is hurting the team more than he is helping. Let him rest up for a few weeks and let Andre and David Wilson put in some work

Toadofsteel
11-13-2012, 02:40 PM
Another option is seeing if we could wave a 4th or 5th round pick in the 49ers face for Jacobs. Obviously this would only happen IF Bradshaw is already on IR...

But let's face it. We did offer Jacobs a deal, just not as much money as he wanted. He would have split carries with Bradshaw like in years past and still got on the field. Now, even when healthy, he's left on the bench. You can bet that he would give anything to go back in time, and ask for a vet min deal from Reese.

And even though he's the Tip Toe Burglar, he's not a guy you'd want to be chipping you...

Rudyy
11-13-2012, 02:44 PM
Your number one back is injured. You have two other backs. One of them proven to be useful, what do you do?

A. Split carries between the #2 and the #3 back
B. WORKOUT A RUNNING BACK CUT BY 2 PREVIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.

Correct Answer: B


The correct answer is B because I have no idea.

Ruttiger711
11-13-2012, 02:48 PM
Your number one back is injured. You have two other backs. One of them proven to be useful, what do you do?A. Split carries between the #2 and the #3 backB. WORKOUT A RUNNING BACK CUT BY 2 PREVIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.Correct Answer: BThe correct answer is B because I have no idea.For depth - new guy comes in as #3.

Buddy333
11-13-2012, 02:53 PM
This isn't a good sign. Maybe they already know the results from Bradshaw tests. Don't forget they already lost Scott. Why try a guy out now? Be careful what you wish for. Bradshaw is a good RB. Losing him will hurt.

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 02:56 PM
Your number one back is injured. You have two other backs. One of them proven to be useful, what do you do?

A. Split carries between the #2 and the #3 back
B. WORKOUT A RUNNING BACK CUT BY 2 PREVIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.

Correct Answer: B


The correct answer is B because I have no idea.

If they bring Bell, or anyone else, in AFTER we learn it's bad news for Bradshaw, the rotation will be Brown, Wilson, and whoever is behind door # 3

ShakeandBake
11-13-2012, 02:57 PM
Your number one back is injured. You have two other backs. One of them proven to be useful, what do you do?

A. Split carries between the #2 and the #3 back
B. WORKOUT A RUNNING BACK CUT BY 2 PREVIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.

Correct Answer: B


The correct answer is B because I have no idea.

correct answer: C. #2 moves up to number #1, and #3 moves to #2. New running back being worked out will become our depth at #3.

nycisgreat
11-13-2012, 02:58 PM
This thread is going to get interesting

True indeed. I just want see someone running along side Bradshaw.

rainierjef
11-13-2012, 03:00 PM
If they bring Bell, or anyone else, in AFTER we learn it's bad news for Bradshaw, the rotation will be Brown, Wilson, and whoever is behind door # 3

Until the coaches say who is starting and who is spliting carries ROA, this is all assumption. Maybe They don't see enough in Wilson right now to give him a bigger role than what he is given now, and bringing in a veteran to plug the hole so to speak. we just don't know.

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 03:01 PM
True indeed. I just want see someone running along side Bradshaw.

I think they have already crossed that bridge against the Bengals with Brown starting

nycisgreat
11-13-2012, 03:02 PM
Your number one back is injured. You have two other backs. One of them proven to be useful, what do you do?

A. Split carries between the #2 and the #3 back
B. WORKOUT A RUNNING BACK CUT BY 2 PREVIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.

Correct Answer: B


The correct answer is B because I have no idea.

Derreck Ward was cut by the Jets, and he became our gem. I haven't seen Bell play, but I like his number for the limited play time. I still would like Brown the get an equal split of the Carries.

Toadofsteel
11-13-2012, 03:02 PM
Derreck Ward was cut by the Jets, and he became our gem. I haven't seen Bell play, but I like his number for the limited play time. I still would like Brown the get an equal split of the Carries.

Brown did pretty much get split carries with Bradshaw. or at least, it was something like a 60/40 split.

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 03:04 PM
Until the coaches say who is starting and who is spliting carries ROA, this is all assumption. Maybe They don't see enough in Wilson right now to give him a bigger role than what he is given now, and bringing in a veteran to plug the hole so to speak. we just don't know.

Actually, they had plays drawn up specifically for Wilson on Sunday, problem is we went south so far and so fast they abandoned the play. My thoughts on the rotation is pretty safe I think if only based on knowledge of the playbook. I am assuming Bradshaw won't play and we've brought someone else in for insurance. I don't think it's a stretch to say Brown and Wilson would be 1 and 2 though.

Rusty192
11-13-2012, 03:05 PM
Dre' Brown 2012

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/889687/20120920_mje_bb4_090.0_standard_500.0.jpg

Can you dig it?

Toadofsteel
11-13-2012, 03:09 PM
I GOT A START
HE GOT ONE TOO

Rudyy
11-13-2012, 03:27 PM
correct answer: C. #2 moves up to number #1, and #3 moves to #2. New running back being worked out will become our depth at #3.I hope Andre starts..

Flip Empty
11-13-2012, 03:37 PM
I hope Andre starts..
Seeing as he started this week and handled the majority of the snaps, I think the job is as good as his.

Another option is seeing if we could wave a 4th or 5th round pick in the 49ers face for Jacobs. Obviously this would only happen IF Bradshaw is already on IR...

The trade deadline passed weeks ago.

Martyr
11-13-2012, 03:37 PM
Dre' Brown 2012

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/889687/20120920_mje_bb4_090.0_standard_500.0.jpg

Can you dig it?




Time to grab him in ffls

Rusty192
11-13-2012, 03:43 PM
Time to grab him in fflsyessir!

TheAnalyst
11-13-2012, 03:46 PM
Like I said, RBs are a dime a dozen.

GameTime
11-13-2012, 03:48 PM
wtf happened to Scott????

Cloud57
11-13-2012, 03:48 PM
I GOT A START
HE GOT ONE TOO haha

TheAnalyst
11-13-2012, 03:49 PM
wtf happened to Scott????

He went to IR. I didn;t know that either until last week. No one cared I guess.

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 03:49 PM
wtf happened to Scott????

IR

Flip Empty
11-13-2012, 03:49 PM
wtf happened to Scott????
They IR'd him to activate another player. Cruz all over again

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 03:50 PM
He went to IR. I didn;t know that either until last week. No one cared I guess.

It was published here when it happened

GameTime
11-13-2012, 03:51 PM
Ok....I guess I missed that....
thanks....

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 03:54 PM
Ok....I guess I missed that....
thanks....

No crystal balls lol We're getting ahead of ourselves though since we've had no reports on the test results

TheAnalyst
11-13-2012, 04:00 PM
It was published here when it happened

Im sure you did publish it, but it kind of was one of those threads that quickly disapeared. No one really cared. We had Bradshaw, Brown and Wilson in front of him.

TextureDj
11-13-2012, 04:30 PM
Your number one back is injured. You have two other backs. One of them proven to be useful, what do you do?

A. Split carries between the #2 and the #3 back
B. WORKOUT A RUNNING BACK CUT BY 2 PREVIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.

Correct Answer: B


The correct answer is B because I have no idea.

Maybe because our current #3 has been cut by THREE different organizations? One of them being US?

And funny enough, many posters, including yourself (I think), want the back I'm talking about, Brown, to take more carries than Bradshaw.

Getting cut in this league doesnt mean you are no good, just like falling in the draft doesnt mean you suck. There is a s much luck involved in these things as there is in winning the superbowl.

Toadofsteel
11-13-2012, 04:32 PM
Maybe because our current #3 has been cut by THREE different organizations? One of them being US?

I wasn't aware that we had cut Wilson...

TextureDj
11-13-2012, 04:33 PM
I wasn't aware that we had cut Wilson...Meant to type #2 and hit the 3 twice. Plasterers typing be damned. I was reffering to Browns storied early career

Toadofsteel
11-13-2012, 04:34 PM
Meant to type #2 and hit the 3 twice. Plasterers typing be damned. I was reffering to Browns storied early career

Yeah I get the idea lol... just bustin your chops.

But anyway, afaik Brown was cut by us due to preseason injury in his draft year. He's looked a lot better now than he used to...

Cloud57
11-13-2012, 04:35 PM
The Jets also worked him out

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/17664/jets-work-out-rbs

ShakeandBake
11-13-2012, 05:29 PM
I hope Andre starts..

I really don't see why he wouldn't unless Bradshaw makes a miraculous recovery.....

Harooni
11-13-2012, 06:06 PM
maybe call Tiki in for a workout he keeps in shape

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/05/04/sports/photos_galleries/tiki_whatever/tikibarber_003180843--500x380.jpg

Flip Empty
11-13-2012, 06:08 PM
And funny enough, many posters, including yourself (I think), want the back I'm talking about, Brown, to take more carries than Bradshaw.

Getting cut in this league doesnt mean you are no good, just like falling in the draft doesnt mean you suck. There is a s much luck involved in these things as there is in winning the superbowl.
It really seems like Brown is the starter. Over the last few weeks he's taken over goal-line work, and on Sunday he actually started the game.

Do people need an official announcement to realise what's going on?

Ideally you want three backs on your roster, if Bradshaw is done then a replacement is required. That's why they're looking at FA.

FranklinsTower
11-13-2012, 06:11 PM
He's a Jet, oh well.


http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/jetsblog/jets_team_sign_running_back_slaton_wTWOleEGIiig8Ek eFE3CcM

Flip Empty
11-13-2012, 06:15 PM
He's a Jet, oh well.
Hah! I hope they made that move out of spite.

They may bring Ryan Grant back now. Are Tim Hightower and Ryan Torain healthy?

Eliscruzzz
11-13-2012, 06:16 PM
Lol the Jets what a trash organization... you can have the chump...

GameTime
11-13-2012, 06:17 PM
maybe call Tiki in for a workout he keeps in shape

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/05/04/sports/photos_galleries/tiki_whatever/tikibarber_003180843--500x380.jpg
still a ****** though...lol
surprised he doesnt have a mirror in front him.....:)

NYGfanNC
11-13-2012, 06:18 PM
wheres Da'rell Scott?

GameTime
11-13-2012, 06:21 PM
wheres Da'rell Scott?
asked that already..IRd a while back...
didnt know that myself....

fourth&forever
11-13-2012, 06:22 PM
Scott was put on IR Oct 20 to make room for Canty coming off PUP. Scott had surgery on his right knee.

RoanokeFan
11-13-2012, 06:59 PM
still a ****** though...lol
surprised he doesnt have a mirror in front him.....:)


It's on the ceiling

sharick88
11-13-2012, 07:10 PM
The jets just signed this guy.

fourth&forever
11-13-2012, 07:32 PM
The jets just signed this guy.
see page 6 at 5:11

sharick88
11-13-2012, 07:45 PM
see page 6 at 5:11

I missed that part. Good looking out

JPP=BEASTMODE
11-13-2012, 08:58 PM
I would think Brown and even Wilson would have a better understanding of the blocking assignments.What is there to understand? Blocking isn't rocket science. You either got it or you don't.

TextureDj
11-13-2012, 09:06 PM
What is there to understand? Blocking isn't rocket science. You either got it or you don't. If I had to guess, just such an arrogant position is what is keeping David Wilson off the field. It's not rocket science but it is complex, especially against blitzing defenses.

If your the running back on the same side as the tight end and both a LB and a CB come, who picks up who, do you chip the corner and go out for a checkdown? or do you stop him as if your life depends on it?

Its not a matter of these things being complicated so much as them being detailed, and they need to be understood by everone on the offense equally or problems result.

nycisgreat
11-13-2012, 09:15 PM
I think they have already crossed that bridge against the Bengals with Brown starting

Bradshaw still got a far majority of the carries on gimpy ankles.

BigBlueAllDay
11-13-2012, 09:29 PM
Well if the Giants are looking for a RB while Bradshaw is out, here's a couple more.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828e3a34/article/top-five-freeagent-rbs-still-available-for-hire

joemorrisforprez
11-13-2012, 10:07 PM
It really seems like Brown is the starter. Over the last few weeks he's taken over goal-line work, and on Sunday he actually started the game.

Do people need an official announcement to realise what's going on?

Ideally you want three backs on your roster, if Bradshaw is done then a replacement is required. That's why they're looking at FA.


That goal line leap was pretty impressive.....that's something I don't think Bradshaw can do.

appodictic
11-14-2012, 12:02 AM
Guys we worked outa qb this year. It does not mean alot.

Flip Empty
11-14-2012, 12:36 AM
Bradshaw still got a far majority of the carries on gimpy ankles.

Bradshaw had 10 carries to Brown's 7. The major thing was that Brown seemed to be on the field a heck of a lot more than Bradshaw - even before he got hurt.

Flip Empty
11-14-2012, 12:38 AM
Guys we worked outa qb this year. It does not mean alot.
This deep in the season with roster spots solidified, it does mean a lot. They wouldn't have brought in a back if weren't thinking they may need one.

JPP=BEASTMODE
11-14-2012, 01:36 AM
If I had to guess, just such an arrogant position is what is keeping David Wilson off the field. It's not rocket science but it is complex, especially against blitzing defenses.If your the running back on the same side as the tight end and both a LB and a CB come, who picks up who, do you chip the corner and go out for a checkdown? or do you stop him as if your life depends on it?Its not a matter of these things being complicated so much as them being detailed, and they need to be understood by everone on the offense equally or problems result.That depends on what side the lb or cb is blitzing from. I only played up until 8th grade and if I can figure that out a NFL running back should too.

Captain Chaos
11-14-2012, 04:15 AM
They need someone if Bradshaw is out, which appears a possibility.

TheShouldersOf
11-14-2012, 04:27 AM
" number 69 is now an eligible running back"

one of few things that has made me laugh

RoanokeFan
11-14-2012, 08:57 AM
Bell has been signed by the Jets. Blurb in the news thread

GameTime
11-14-2012, 09:21 AM
would really like to see what Brown can do. Give him a game and keep Bradshaw shelved to preserve him a little.
For the love of god put Wilson in with situations that dont require a protection scheme if he cant handle it. Get him in the game.....
cant the put him in the I with Hynoski and they choose to pass Hyno can pick up the primary protection???

njg85m
11-14-2012, 10:45 AM
How about activating Martinek from the PS?

Yes, Please.

RoanokeFan
11-14-2012, 11:49 AM
would really like to see what Brown can do. Give him a game and keep Bradshaw shelved to preserve him a little.
For the love of god put Wilson in with situations that dont require a protection scheme if he cant handle it. Get him in the game.....
cant the put him in the I with Hynoski and they choose to pass Hyno can pick up the primary protection???

I think Brown will be getting more snaps even if Bradshaw is deemed to be "healthy" since his healthy is a one day practice week.

GameTime
11-14-2012, 12:28 PM
I think Brown will be getting more snaps even if Bradshaw is deemed to be "healthy" since his healthy is a one day practice week.
hope so. A "healthier" Amhad will be so much better. Brown wants to carry.....give him the freakin ball.....