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I dont think he starts.....</P>

JMFP2
12-21-2011, 05:38 PM
If he starts, and he sucks, and they lose, then fire the coaching staff.

Simple as that.

I've been defending Coughlin until it ****ing hurts. I can't defend going back to a player who has been a failure all season just because Reese signed him for stupid money.

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12-21-2011, 05:39 PM
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I dont think he starts.....</p>
I really hope not....the improved run game has really been the only positive to look forward to

Seducer
12-21-2011, 05:40 PM
I can only hope they have the nuts to bench him if the o-line does poorly first half.

egyptian420
12-21-2011, 05:41 PM
This paragraph makes me FURIOUS!!!!!:



The Giants rushed for 301 yards in the three games without Baas, the free-agent acquisition who has dealt with multiple injuries and a quick adjustment (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/11/giants_vs_49ers_david_baas_mig.html)period
this season. Kevin Boothe, who filled in at center, will likely slide
to left guard. Mitch Petrus, the second-year lineman who has done an
admirable job, will head back to the bench.</p>



Of course, things could change if Baas suddenly experiences issues once again. But for now, the $27.5-million man (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/08/giants_deal_with_offensive_lin.html) is on his way back to the middle of the Giants' line.</p>



I repeat: $27.5 million. Though the Giants have done well in his
absence, you don't pay a guy that kind of money to sit on the bench.</p>

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I dont think he starts.....</P>



I really hope not....the improved run game has really been the only positive to look forward to
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till I hear TC say it then I wont stress about it......</P>


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JMFP2
12-21-2011, 05:47 PM
Start or not....if Petrus is a healthy scratch, I'll **** my pants.

titwio
12-21-2011, 05:51 PM
I like Boothe and all but he did get beat badly on a couple of plays and hasn't been the best on shotgun snaps.

I wouldn't mind if Baas gets back out. Honestly I think the contribution of Petrus is what has helped the run game more than Kevin. Boothe is still solid depth if Baas sucks it up but, I still think it's not such a bad thing to see if he can redeem himself.

galaxy10
12-21-2011, 05:51 PM
If Bass plays, we will lose. He is a bust and the O-line has been doing better without him. Get rid of him.

egyptian420
12-21-2011, 05:58 PM
I like Boothe and all but he did get beat badly on a couple of plays and hasn't been the best on shotgun snaps.

I wouldn't mind if Baas gets back out. Honestly I think the contribution of Petrus is what has helped the run game more than Kevin. Boothe is still solid depth if Baas sucks it up but, I still think it's not such a bad thing to see if he can redeem himself.
The bad thing is that if Baas starts then Boothe will move over to guard and Petrus will be benched, which is complete bulls### if you ask me...he's been outstanding at creating holes and I don't want to halt his improvement. This O-line was actually starting to go into the right direction and looked like it finally had the right line up working together. Way to #### up their harmony.

BlueJayC
12-21-2011, 06:06 PM
If this garbage is true I will have lost all respect for TC and will officially withdraw my support of him.</P>


How one could fathom starting him over Boothe is beyond me especially with the way the line is starting to perform compared to their earlier struggles.......</P>

BlueJayC
12-21-2011, 06:08 PM
If he starts, and he sucks, and they lose, then fire the coaching staff. Simple as that. I've been defending Coughlin until it ****ing hurts. I can't defend going back to a player who has been a failure all season just because Reese signed him for stupid money.</P>


100% on board with this.....I'm done with KG.....done with PF.......was a supporter of TC till I read this potentially happening......will hold final judgement till Saturday evening.</P>

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12-21-2011, 06:09 PM
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*I dont think he starts.....</P>



I really hope not....the improved run game has really been the only positive to look forward to
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till I hear TC say it then I wont stress about it......</P>


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This is a good point.

And even then, maybe there is stuff going on in practice that a casual fan like me simply isn't seeing.

The hype on Baas was he was a forceful blocker with a mean streak. I was actually stoked when they signed Baas. If he's healthy, I'd love to actually see the hype become reality.

I just don't know about Boothe v. Petrus. Petrus has shown fire and punch on the line. I like Boothe alot, but I think Petrus is more physical.

However, if Baas starts, and Petrus sits, and the running game blows, my opinion of Coughlin, Gilbride, and Reese will be in the crapper.

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12-21-2011, 06:15 PM
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So much for this season....

T-Murda84
12-21-2011, 06:24 PM
I said all along that Jerry Reese is the main problem with this defense. He seems to anger our star players who deserved to get paid, and brings in average free agents to outrageous contracts. Hakeem Nicks, JPP, and Terrell Thomas, and Bradshaw were all good picks but he has a number of awful picks as well and missed on a ton of guys like Jon Beason, Joe Staley etc. I even think Terrence Cody would of been a better pick up than Linvall Joseph.

sunsgiants
12-21-2011, 06:27 PM
Why is it always counter-intuitive with these guys?

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12-21-2011, 06:29 PM
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I dont think he starts.....</p>



I really hope not....the improved run game has really been the only positive to look forward to
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till I hear TC say it then I wont stress about it......</p>


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This is a good point.

And even then, maybe there is stuff going on in practice that a casual fan like me simply isn't seeing.

The hype on Baas was he was a forceful blocker with a mean streak. I was actually stoked when they signed Baas. If he's healthy, I'd love to actually see the hype become reality.

I just don't know about Boothe v. Petrus. Petrus has shown fire and punch on the line. I like Boothe alot, but I think Petrus is more physical.

However, if Baas starts, and Petrus sits, and the running game blows, my opinion of Coughlin, Gilbride, and Reese will be in the crapper.
I am getting flashbacks of Koets doing well when O'Hara was injured and the same situation happening when O'Hara came back.

JMFP2
12-21-2011, 06:29 PM
I said all along that Jerry Reese is the main problem with this defense. He seems to anger our star players who deserved to get paid, and brings in average free agents to outrageous contracts. Hakeem Nicks, JPP, and Terrell Thomas, and Bradshaw were all good picks but he has a number of awful picks as well and missed on a ton of guys like Jon Beason, Joe Staley etc. I even think Terrence Cody would of been a better pick up than Linvall Joseph.



He had a nice draft in 2007, and then won a Super Bowl with a team Accorsi mainly built......since then, he hasn't taken off his **** You Pants.

Something tells me Osi would heal a lot quicker if he didn't hate his GM. Right now, I'm not a big fan of either of these guys, honestly.

giantsfan420
12-21-2011, 06:29 PM
while i have been really happy with petrus, there are several plays a game that petrus has been blown up in pass protection.

vs the redskins there were a bunch of em where the dlmen completely blew up petrus and pushed him into eli and collapsed the pocket.

but in the run game petrus fires off the line and kills it.

tough situation, i'd imagine the LG spot is up for grabs between boothe and petrus, i'd personally like to see petrus but wouldnt mind boothe.

speaking of boothe, he also struggled badly in pass protection. there were several plays where boothe wasnt even blocking anyone and was too late to help out the guards with there assignments.

Baas was signed for big bucks and is supposed to be a very good OL, its about time he shows it. maybe having some one else besides diehl next to him will improve his play, as diehl was THE WORST OL IN THE LEAGUE

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*I dont think he starts.....</p>



I really hope not....the improved run game has really been the only positive to look forward to
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till I hear TC say it then I wont stress about it......</p>


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This is a good point.

And even then, maybe there is stuff going on in practice that a casual fan like me simply isn't seeing.

The hype on Baas was he was a forceful blocker with a mean streak. I was actually stoked when they signed Baas. If he's healthy, I'd love to actually see the hype become reality.

I just don't know about Boothe v. Petrus. Petrus has shown fire and punch on the line. I like Boothe alot, but I think Petrus is more physical.

However, if Baas starts, and Petrus sits, and the running game blows, my opinion of Coughlin, Gilbride, and Reese will be in the crapper.
I am getting flashbacks of Koets doing well when O'Hara was injured and the same situation happening when O'Hara came back.


Yes....totally.

PIERCEnumber58rules
12-21-2011, 06:41 PM
Holy crap. We gave that scrub a $27.5M contract??? !

galaxy10
12-21-2011, 06:51 PM
Holy crap. We gave that scrub a $27.5M contract??? !

Horrifying isn't it?

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*I dont think he starts.....</p>



I really hope not....the improved run game has really been the only positive to look forward to
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till I hear TC say it then I wont stress about it......</p>


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This is a good point.

And even then, maybe there is stuff going on in practice that a casual fan like me simply isn't seeing.

The hype on Baas was he was a forceful blocker with a mean streak. I was actually stoked when they signed Baas. If he's healthy, I'd love to actually see the hype become reality.

I just don't know about Boothe v. Petrus. Petrus has shown fire and punch on the line. I like Boothe alot, but I think Petrus is more physical.

However, if Baas starts, and Petrus sits, and the running game blows, my opinion of Coughlin, Gilbride, and Reese will be in the crapper.
I am getting flashbacks of Koets doing well when O'Hara was injured and the same situation happening when O'Hara came back.


Yes....totally.

exactly what i thought of..putting ohara back in last year completely threw us off and we never recovered..you cant just put guys in cause they were starters you put the best 11 on the field..dont fk this up Tommy

giantpride84
12-21-2011, 06:57 PM
Holy crap. We gave that scrub a $27.5M contract??? !wow thats crazy.... no wonder we have no cap room

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If this happens this is dumb....why fix something that is not broken?...this team has enough issues without messing with an O-line that just recently has gelled and given us some semblance of a running game that we didn't have when Baas was starting....

Vtgmenfan89
12-21-2011, 08:11 PM
If they start Baas which they absolutely should NOT (production does not lie) they better start Petrus over Boothe. This guy has been playing great! He had a picture perfect textbook pull and block during the shotgun draw 2 point conversion against cowgirls. Ware doesn't get in without that block. Not to mention he's a player who goes out there and plays tough and has fun. I like those traits in an O-linemen personally

jomo
12-21-2011, 08:13 PM
Baas should not start.

egyptian420
12-21-2011, 08:15 PM
If they start Baas which they absolutely should NOT (production does not lie) they better start Petrus over Boothe. This guy has been playing great! He had a picture perfect textbook pull and block during the shotgun draw 2 point conversion against cowgirls. Ware doesn't get in without that block. Not to mention he's a player who goes out there and plays tough and has fun. I like those traits in an O-linemen personally
+1

Gianthunter
12-21-2011, 08:40 PM
In a development that really shouldn't surprise anyone, David Baas will return to the starting lineup as the Giants (http://www.nj.com/giants)' center on Saturday against the Jets (http://www.nj.com/jets), according to someone informed of the team's plans for the offensive line.</P>


The person, who requested anonymity, said Baas isn't experiencing any major issues after practicing in a limited capacity today. He'd been sidelined the past three games with neck issues that led to intense headaches.</P>


http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/12/giants_david_baas_will_start_a.html</P>

egyptian420
12-21-2011, 08:54 PM
I just watched the Jacobs press conf. and they asked him about this particular situation at the end of the interview and you could tell from his response that he wasn't feeling it at all. He basically said it wasn't up to him and w.e the coaches do is good for the team. Sounds like he's not down with this....and neither are we

Vtgmenfan89
12-21-2011, 09:02 PM
I just watched the Jacobs press conf. and they asked him about this particular situation at the end of the interview and you could tell from his response that he wasn't feeling it at all. He basically said it wasn't up to him and w.e the coaches do is good for the team. Sounds like he's not down with this....and neither are we


well sometimes jacobs can do some idiotic things, but he knows when he's getting good blocks and who's giving them. baas has not been that guy.

Weygand
12-21-2011, 09:25 PM
I said all along that Jerry Reese is the main problem with this defense. He seems to anger our star players who deserved to get paid, and brings in average free agents to outrageous contracts.

Did you ever know that you're my hero?

MikeIsaGiant
12-21-2011, 09:34 PM
Our chances are now slim to nil

fourth&forever
12-21-2011, 09:57 PM
I know TC doesn't like guys to lose their starting jobs to injury... But an exception is in order here.

ny06
12-21-2011, 11:00 PM
If I see #64 in the starting lineup on Saturday evening then I really have to start questioning the decisions made on this team. </P>


It's clear as day our running game, and interior lineman are moving guys off the ball. Since Boothe became the center. </P>


Yes Boothe has had 2 playes where the opposition Ratliff of the Cowboys and Bowen for the Redskins blew right by him. But let's remember Ratliff is stud. And Bowen is having a good year for the Redskins. </P>


I have a feeling he is starting not for he was the starter before the injury, but more the amount of money he is getting paid. </P>

BallinNY
12-21-2011, 11:09 PM
If I see #64 in the starting lineup on Saturday evening then I really have to start questioning the decisions made on this team. </P>


It's clear as day our running game, and interior lineman are moving guys off the ball. Since Boothe became the center. </P>


Yes Boothe has had 2 playes where the opposition Ratliff of the Cowboys and Bowen for the Redskins blew right by him. But let's remember Ratliff is stud. And Bowen is having a good year for the Redskins. </P>


I have a feeling he is starting not for he was the starter before the injury, but more the amount of money he is getting paid. </P>

Agree here, don't really like the snaps by Boothe though. He needs to calm down. Baas doesn't get push, but is more of a standby where he neutralizes his defender if anything. I don't like that, especially if I have Jacobs in the backfield, he needs running lanes, not just a steady block.

What really really hurts us is that Petrus might get kicked out of the lineup if this happens. Boothe would most likely go to guard. Petrus is our best run blocker, slightly better than Snee as of now.

Kase-1
12-21-2011, 11:15 PM
If I see #64 in the starting lineup on Saturday evening then I really have to start questioning the decisions made on this team. </p>


It's clear as day our running game, and interior lineman are moving guys off the ball. Since Boothe became the center. </p>


Yes Boothe has had 2 playes where the opposition Ratliff of the Cowboys and Bowen for the Redskins blew right by him. But let's remember Ratliff is stud. And Bowen is having a good year for the Redskins. </p>


<font size="6">I have a feeling he is starting not for he was the starter before the injury, but more the amount of money he is getting paid. </font></p>I wish that wasnt the case, but it sounds and looks oh too real. Boothe and Petrus have been doing excellent where they are, yes Baas was good in the passing game but he is/was pitiful in the run game

bearbryant
12-22-2011, 01:02 AM
THIS MUST BE BS, IT CAN'T BE THE REAL DEAL!!!</P>


If they put baas in the lineup after watching what we all watched for the past few weeks, we then know something that clears up a lot of questions about the Giants. Its not the coaching, its not the players or the schemes or the blitzes. The guys in charge of this franchise are crazy and stupid... All of them!</P>


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RoanokeFan
12-22-2011, 01:09 AM
Holy crap. We gave that scrub a $27.5M contract??? !wow thats crazy.... no wonder we have no cap room


That's not why we don't have CAP room.

JMFP2
12-22-2011, 01:12 AM
Holy crap. We gave that scrub a $27.5M contract??? !wow thats crazy.... no wonder we have no cap room


That's not why we don't have CAP room.
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$27 Million buys a lot of Hot Pockets, that's for sure.</P>

Weygand
12-22-2011, 02:38 AM
Holy crap. We gave that scrub a $27.5M contract??? !

Please tell me that isn't true. Please tell me you're just trying to rile people up. Kawika Mitchell wanted a measly 3m a year and we wouldn't pay it but we'll pay this alBaastross 27.5 to hang around the neck of our franchise?

That's it...Reese is an eagles plant....any doubt has now been removed.
That goes beyond criminally stupid and can only be deliberate sabotage.

sausage
12-22-2011, 08:11 AM
this really angered me last year with o-hara coming back and screwing things up. at this point, there is a growing part of me that wants the giants to get embarrassed in the last 2 games so we can finally see the wholesale changes that are needed. its been 3 straight years of garbage,excuses, and indefensible bs like this. time for new blood!

BigBlue wins
12-22-2011, 08:56 AM
I never liked Baas from the start, so I might be a little bias. However, he still sucks. There was a reason San Francisco got rid of him

TuckYou
12-22-2011, 09:05 AM
You guys already forgot what happened last year? </P>


Remember when we started our oline wasnt that great, then we lost a few guys to injury, and didnt give up a sack for like 5 games with a patchwork oline? Then Diehl and whoever came back in late in the year and we gave up a few sacks. </P>


The people who are being paid the most will play. It is what it is. Especially a first year of a five year 27.5M dollar guy like Baas. Giants cant admitt they are wrong yet. </P>


But I agree. Baas is horible at run blocking, but he can snap the ball better.</P>


I feel Diehl Kmac and Baas should all be shown the door.</P>


Reese spent money on the wrong play once again. Should of got a LB in FA. </P>

BigBlue wins
12-22-2011, 09:21 AM
You guys already forgot what happened last year? </p>


Remember when we started our oline wasnt that great, then we lost a few guys to injury, and didnt give up a sack for like 5 games with a patchwork oline? Then Diehl and whoever came back in late in the year and we gave up a few sacks. </p>


The people who are being paid the most will play. It is what it is. Especially a first year of a five year 27.5M dollar guy like Baas. Giants cant admitt they are wrong yet. </p>


But I agree. Baas is horible at run blocking, but he can snap the ball better.</p>


I feel Diehl Kmac and Baas should all be shown the door.</p>


Reese spent money on the wrong play once again. Should of got a LB in FA. </p>

I'm starting to think Reese has no idea how important a quality LB is on defense, let alone what constitutes one. Thanks to improvements in Boley, we kinda have one but we still need help in that area.

GMENAGAIN
12-22-2011, 10:20 AM
If he starts, and he sucks, and they lose, then fire the coaching staff. Simple as that. I've been defending Coughlin until it ****ing hurts. I can't defend going back to a player who has been a failure all season just because Reese signed him for stupid money.</P>


I couldn't agree more.</P>


They did the same thing last year when they put O'Hara back in at Center after the line play had improved with Seubert at center.</P>

JMFP2
12-22-2011, 10:55 AM
I never liked Baas from the start, so I might be a little bias. However, he still sucks. There was a reason San Francisco got rid of him
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I'm one of the idiots who liked the Baas signing.</P>


But he has been nowhere near to what I was expecting, at all.</P>


I was very critical of him, until I heard about how serious the headaches might be.</P>


But now, we go from "a lot more serious than just a headache"to back into the lineup?</P>


Obviously, some sort of medical miracle took place this week.</P>


Unless Baas is absolutely crushing it practice, this could be a huge mistake.</P>

Redeyejedi
12-22-2011, 10:55 AM
I still dont get what the Giants Director of Pro Personal saw in this guy. He was the first pick of the Second Round in 2005. The guy was a reserve lineman that couldnt get into the starting lineup.He played mostly special teams until the 49ers starting center got injured.He then played well enough to be a mediocre starting center. For some reason I still cant fathom the Giants decided to pay him more then 5 million a year when he was worth maybe half that as a top interior lineman back up. I didnt mind the signing of the player but the money the Giants gave him was irresponsible. This is the player Baas is, he is a spot starter not a guy u anchor your team to.

RobCarpenter
12-22-2011, 11:45 AM
This paragraph makes me FURIOUS!!!!!:




The Giants rushed for 301 yards in the three games without Baas, the free-agent acquisition who has dealt with multiple injuries and a quick adjustment (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/11/giants_vs_49ers_david_baas_mig.html)period this season. Kevin Boothe, who filled in at center, will likely slide to left guard. Mitch Petrus, the second-year lineman who has done an admirable job, will head back to the bench.</P>


Of course, things could change if Baas suddenly experiences issues once again. But for now, the $27.5-million man (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/08/giants_deal_with_offensive_lin.html) is on his way back to the middle of the Giants' line.</P>


I repeat: $27.5 million. Though the Giants have done well in his absence, you don't pay a guy that kind of money to sit on the bench.</P>


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Best players need to play. You can't play players just because of their salaries. </P>


If TC does anything other than put his best players on the field, he needs to be fired.</P>

RoanokeFan
12-22-2011, 01:00 PM
I still dont get what the Giants Director of Pro Personal saw in this guy. He was the first pick of the Second Round in 2005. The guy was a reserve lineman that couldnt get into the starting lineup.He played mostly special teams until the 49ers starting center got injured.He then played well enough to be a mediocre starting center. For some reason I still cant fathom the Giants decided to pay him more then 5 million a year when he was worth maybe half that as a top interior lineman back up. I didnt mind the signing of the player but the money the Giants gave him was irresponsible. This is the player Baas is, he is a spot starter not a guy u anchor your team to.

Who else was available at the time?

RoanokeFan
12-22-2011, 01:02 PM
I still dont get what the Giants Director of Pro Personal saw in this guy. He was the first pick of the Second Round in 2005. The guy was a reserve lineman that couldnt get into the starting lineup.He played mostly special teams until the 49ers starting center got injured.He then played well enough to be a mediocre starting center. For some reason I still cant fathom the Giants decided to pay him more then 5 million a year when he was worth maybe half that as a top interior lineman back up. I didnt mind the signing of the player but the money the Giants gave him was irresponsible. This is the player Baas is, he is a spot starter not a guy u anchor your team to.

Who else was available at the time?

TuckYou
12-22-2011, 01:19 PM
I still dont get what the Giants Director of Pro Personal saw in this guy. He was the first pick of the Second Round in 2005. The guy was a reserve lineman that couldnt get into the starting lineup.He played mostly special teams until the 49ers starting center got injured.He then played well enough to be a mediocre starting center. For some reason I still cant fathom the Giants decided to pay him more then 5 million a year when he was worth maybe half that as a top interior lineman back up. I didnt mind the signing of the player but the money the Giants gave him was irresponsible. This is the player Baas is, he is a spot starter not a guy u anchor your team to.

Who else was available at the time?
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Point is, it should of never came down to the last minute like this. I saw the oline falling apart for the past 3 seasons. Reese didnt? Or he didnt really have it high on his priority list anyway.2008 was the last great year they had. They are older and slower now. Im fine with Snee still, but the rebuilding should of started a while ago. Baas simply wasnt the answer and we overpaid for a good pass blocking center, but horrible run blocking center. </P>

nihan87
12-22-2011, 01:26 PM
Son of a *****, if this son of a Brasky starts and we can't run the ball and they don't pull him?!?! Ugh

GameTime
12-22-2011, 05:29 PM
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I dont think he starts.....</P>



I really hope not....the improved run game has really been the only positive to look forward to
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till I hear TC say it then I wont stress about it......</P>


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http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2387503.aspx (/forums/thread/2387503.aspx)</P>


well apparently Baas is starting. He better man the **** up and play. Feel bad for Petrus too.</P>


Maybe Boothe has been messing up the snaps in prctice???</P>