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FBomb
12-01-2012, 01:23 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/chiefs-player-killed-girlfriend-article-1.1211469

Shot and killed his GF then went to Arrowhead and killed himself!!! JESUS!!

Giants5699
12-01-2012, 01:33 PM
That is why people should stay single.

Sundown
12-01-2012, 01:39 PM
This is crazy!! I bet the fans feel like crap booing an injured Matt Cassell, now this. That whole city needs to reevaluate themselves.

krygny
12-01-2012, 01:47 PM
Tragic. Apparently, a troubled individual. Not much for Chef fans to cheer about this year.

They'll blame roid rage. Or guns. Or the NFL, in general.

Hassett00
12-01-2012, 02:31 PM
Christ. Tragic news. Really hope his daughter is looked after now. Only 3 months old :(

giantyankee1976
12-01-2012, 02:39 PM
3 month baby girl without her mom or pop...****'s terrible

GiantWarfare
12-01-2012, 03:13 PM
horrible horrible story

njg85m
12-01-2012, 04:27 PM
They'll blame roid rage. Or guns. Or the NFL, in general.
+1
Hit the nail on the head.

Broadway Blue
12-01-2012, 05:52 PM
Tragic. Apparently, a troubled individual. Not much for Chef fans to cheer about this year.

They'll blame roid rage. Or guns. Or the NFL, in general.

Got to find someone to scapegoat

GMENAGAIN
12-01-2012, 06:06 PM
Apparently, he shot himself in front of Pioli and Romeo. Don't think that you ever get over seeing something like that . . .. .

Toadofsteel
12-01-2012, 06:29 PM
Prayers and condolences to his friends, family, and team.

bigblue2088
12-01-2012, 09:14 PM
Apparently, he shot himself in front of Pioli and Romeo. Don't think that you ever get over seeing something like that . . .. .n they said he thanked them and was emotional.. idk where their heads are gonna be during tomoro's game

Parademon
12-01-2012, 10:00 PM
As a former Jarhead that did 2 combat tours in Iraq in 03' & the Stan in 04', I ain't gonna lose any sleep over this murderer killing himself. I feel for the 3 month old daughter that her dad ended up killing her mom. More than likely, she was either gonna divorce him or he found out she was playing him & he wasn't man enough to just except it & walk away & continue to just be a dad to his daughter & love & support her.

He took a coward's way out but unfortunately decided to take his baby's mom with him. Glad the NFL isn't cancelling the game. Life goes on.

bigblue2088
12-01-2012, 10:30 PM
As a former Jarhead that did 2 combat tours in Iraq in 03' & the Stan in 04', I ain't gonna lose any sleep over this murderer killing himself. I feel for the 3 month old daughter that her dad ended up killing her mom. More than likely, she was either gonna divorce him or he found out she was playing him & he wasn't man enough to just except it & walk away & continue to just be a dad to his daughter & love & support her.

He took a coward's way out but unfortunately decided to take his baby's mom with him. Glad the NFL isn't cancelling the game. Life goes on.first of all thanks for your service. secondly I said this somewhere else too, all of the hits he took to the head has to have something to do with this. after all the head injuries and everything that went on within his brain cells, I think it's safe to say it wasn't functioning completely normal. I'm not saying what he did is right but we shouldn't jump to conclusions

Parademon
12-01-2012, 11:24 PM
Your welcome bigblue. Don't mean to come off sounding mean but the bottom line is he commited murder, NFL would have been stupid to cancel a game for a murderer.

bigblue2088
12-01-2012, 11:41 PM
Your welcome bigblue. Don't mean to come off sounding mean but the bottom line is he commited murder, NFL would have been stupid to cancel a game for a murderer.nahh I understand you, but knowing people with brain issues I kinda feel for Belcher too. again definitely not saying what he did wasn't terrible, but that all the statements that make him seem like a monster bother me altittle.

krygny
12-02-2012, 12:15 AM
first of all thanks for your service. secondly I said this somewhere else too, all of the hits he took to the head has to have something to do with this. after all the head injuries and everything that went on within his brain cells, I think it's safe to say it wasn't functioning completely normal. I'm not saying what he did is right but we shouldn't jump to conclusions

Do you know for a fact that he took many severe blows to the head? I mean, beyond what of most NFL linebackers endure? And I've never heard any clinical evidence that head trauma causes someone to become psychotic or suicidal.

Talk about jumping to conclusions.

bigblue2088
12-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Do you know for a fact that he took many severe blows to the head? I mean, beyond what of most NFL linebackers endure? And I've never heard any clinical evidence that head trauma causes someone to become psychotic or suicidal.

Talk about jumping to conclusions.I'm not saying he did tho! lol I know what he did is wrong and im not defending him but a small part of me feels bad for him and I'm sorry if it bothers you. And just like how Junior Seau died, all of those hits to the head do have long term effects. And he's a professional football player, linebacker for that matter, I'm pretty sure that he had had some head injuries in his lifetime. And again I'm not saying that's the reason why or trying to jump to conclusions but him having CTE is a possibility but a relationship issue is more likely

bELIeve_in_Giants
12-02-2012, 12:47 AM
Feel very badly for his mom who actually witnessed him shoot the girlfriend.

bigblue2088
12-02-2012, 12:53 AM
I wonder if they're gonna tell the baby growing up. The kids still only 3 months so I doubt he/she will remember or even know what happened. That would be hard growing up knowing what happened to your parents in that circumstance. Question is how long can you keep it a secret?

BillTheGreek
12-02-2012, 01:34 AM
Shocking and Very Sad News

G-MENBK
12-02-2012, 04:32 AM
I'm not saying he did tho! lol I know what he did is wrong and im not defending him but a small part of me feels bad for him and I'm sorry if it bothers you. And just like how Junior Seau died, all of those hits to the head do have long term effects. And he's a professional football player, linebacker for that matter, I'm pretty sure that he had had some head injuries in his lifetime. And again I'm not saying that's the reason why or trying to jump to conclusions but him having CTE is a possibility but a relationship issue is more likely

Well, we'll see if it was narcotics, steroids, a fight that went overboard...or if there indeed was something wrong in his head.

I don't know his name but there was a Chief who...pretty much disappeared off the face of the Earth. Wife noticed some things were off with him, he was an emotionless empty shell and one day he just left the house and never came back.

slipknottin
12-02-2012, 02:06 PM
Do you know for a fact that he took many severe blows to the head? I mean, beyond what of most NFL linebackers endure? And I've never heard any clinical evidence that head trauma causes someone to become psychotic or suicidal.

Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Read up on CTE. Absolutely clinically proven to cause depression, confussion, aggression, and dementia.

CTE cant be diagnosed in a living person, has to be tested for in an autopsy. It is almost guaranteed to be found in anyone who has suffered multiple head injuries.

Not sure if they can test Belcher, depends what parts of his brain are still there to be studied.


Now even if his relationship was having problems, the CTE could very well have been what made him aggressive, confused, and ultimately why he made a rather crazy decision.

EddieBlue
12-03-2012, 09:08 AM
As a former Jarhead that did 2 combat tours in Iraq in 03' & the Stan in 04', I ain't gonna lose any sleep over this murderer killing himself. I feel for the 3 month old daughter that her dad ended up killing her mom. More than likely, she was either gonna divorce him or he found out she was playing him & he wasn't man enough to just except it & walk away & continue to just be a dad to his daughter & love & support her.

He took a coward's way out but unfortunately decided to take his baby's mom with him. Glad the NFL isn't cancelling the game. Life goes on.


First off, SEMPER FI my brother...I was in in 92. Had my fun in the desert too. This POS does not even deserve to be mentioned. The poor girl will be effed up for life, never knowing why her scum bag father took the life of her mother. As a proud dad expecting my second child in less than two weeks, i understand how stressful things can get...money, mortgage, clothes etc. This guy was a pro athlete so i doubt cash was the problem. New mothers can often get completely hormonal and act like lunatics, but as a man, you need to think of the children and do whatever it takes to give them a solid foundation in life. He is a murderer and I hope i dont see his # on helmets or any of that nonsense. Shame that had to happen.

slipknottin
12-03-2012, 09:19 AM
Deadspin has an article up which is a conversation they had with someone close to him. Days belcher was a heavy drinker, and was on prescription pain killers. Also says that after he played in the bengals game he had major short term memory problems and was very disoriented. Bet just the accumulation of all of those made the guy essentially lose control

bELIeve_in_Giants
12-03-2012, 09:56 AM
Deadspin also said that he had some anger issues in college, putting his hand through a window. It may very well have been several factors - personality, mental illness, substance abuse, CTE, etc... that culminated in a tragedy.

Clearly, I don't know the details of this and how impulsive it was. And, I'm by no means against people owning guns in their own home, but I used to work as a suicide researcher and I can't tell you how many tragedies (suicides and murder/suicides) seemed to be impulsive actions where someone grabs the gun and it's all over. If someone really wants to commit murder or suicide, they will find a way if the gun isn't there. But the impulsive ones are just so sad. Please reconsider owning a gun or living in a house with a gun if there's any hint that you are with someone with impulsive tendencies or a quick temper. Please if there's anyone in your family who you think could be depressed, don't have the gun in the house until you are confident that it has passed. Don't give someone in danger the chance to act that impulsively. Even a minute to take a deep breath can make a big difference.

EddieBlue
12-03-2012, 10:02 AM
Deadspin also said that he had some anger issues in college, putting his hand through a window. It may very well have been several factors - personality, mental illness, substance abuse, CTE, etc... that culminated in a tragedy.

Clearly, I don't know the details of this and how impulsive it was. And, I'm by no means against people owning guns in their own home, but I used to work as a suicide researcher and I can't tell you how many tragedies (suicides and murder/suicides) seemed to be impulsive actions where someone grabs the gun and it's all over. If someone really wants to commit murder or suicide, they will find a way if the gun isn't there. But the impulsive ones are just so sad. Please reconsider owning a gun or living in a house with a gun if there's any hint that you are with someone with impulsive tendencies or a quick temper. Please if there's anyone in your family who you think could be depressed, don't have the gun in the house until you are confident that it has passed. Don't give someone in danger the chance to act that impulsively. Even a minute to take a deep breath can make a big difference.


+1

Giants5699
12-03-2012, 10:38 AM
I think Bob Costa's anti gun rant was extremely inappropriate. Not to get political, but I don't watch the NFL to hear political discussion. Not only that, but it was extremely insensitive to the families and friends involved in this tragedy.

gmenfan0488
12-03-2012, 02:26 PM
big blue, he was only 25, I'd be shocked if by that age he already took that many hits to account for brain damage that serious

slipknottin
12-03-2012, 04:58 PM
big blue, he was only 25, I'd be shocked if by that age he already took that many hits to account for brain damage that serious

They have found CTE in football players who were in highschool!

bELIeve_in_Giants
12-03-2012, 05:11 PM
I know deadspin isn't the best source, but they received contact from a friend who said that he was having short-term memory loss since the 11/18 game. Also said that he drank heavily and may have been abusing prescription narcotics. Not a good combo for sure. The friend went on to blame the girlfriend for being the "catalyst" for having taken the baby to stay at Jamal Charles' house, but given the circumstances that sounds like it was a good move and I wish she had stayed there.

sharick88
12-03-2012, 05:12 PM
Here's how I feel about it. Regardless of his professional history, the guy is scum. He shot his wife in front of her mother 9 times and then he takes the easy way out and kills himself. I have absolutely no sympathy for him. I do, however, have sympathy for that infant child and everyone else that was directly affected by it.

slipknottin
12-03-2012, 05:21 PM
Here's how I feel about it. Regardless of his professional history, the guy is scum.

Or you dont understand mental illness.

Yes killing people is bad, (well unless its for 'good' reasons, i guess) but do any of us know what exactly was going on in his head? Of course not. We dont know what the tox report shows, how badly his brain was damaged from football, etc.

Throwing about labels like that just serves no purpose at all.

And killing himself isnt the easy way out, no depressed or suicidal person thinks that. They think its the ONLY way out.

sharick88
12-03-2012, 05:36 PM
Or you dont understand mental illness.

Yes killing people is bad, (well unless its for 'good' reasons, i guess) but do any of us know what exactly was going on in his head? Of course not. We dont know what the tox report shows, how badly his brain was damaged from football, etc.

Throwing about labels like that just serves no purpose at all.

And killing himself isnt the easy way out, no depressed or suicidal person thinks that. They think its the ONLY way out.

Why is mental unstability always the excuse for coldblooded murder? IMO, anyone that murders someone not in the line of duty or in self defense is mentally unstable. There is absolutely no excuse for what he did. NONE. He was fully aware of what he was doing. I respectfully disagree with your assessment of this situation. There is no excuse for what he did. His mental issues weren't in the forefront when he was growing up, going to college, and then ultimately, playing in the NFL. Why all of a sudden is it now?

Parademon
12-03-2012, 10:02 PM
First off, SEMPER FI my brother...I was in in 92. Had my fun in the desert too. This POS does not even deserve to be mentioned. The poor girl will be effed up for life, never knowing why her scum bag father took the life of her mother. As a proud dad expecting my second child in less than two weeks, i understand how stressful things can get...money, mortgage, clothes etc. This guy was a pro athlete so i doubt cash was the problem. New mothers can often get completely hormonal and act like lunatics, but as a man, you need to think of the children and do whatever it takes to give them a solid foundation in life. He is a murderer and I hope i dont see his # on helmets or any of that nonsense. Shame that had to happen.


Semper Fi brother. Funny you should mention the # on the helmet. Sadly, I think the Chiefs will end up honoring a cold blooded murderer. Hopefully, if the NFL comissioner is truly about protecting the integrity & honor of the NFL shield, he won't allow it. Maggot don't rate it!

bELIeve_in_Giants
12-03-2012, 11:12 PM
I don't think the Chiefs will end up formally honoring him. They showed good taste in having a moment of silence in honor of domestic violence victims instead of a moment of silence for him. Romeo has handled this situation very well.

bandwgn86
12-04-2012, 08:27 AM
Do you know for a fact that he took many severe blows to the head? I mean, beyond what of most NFL linebackers endure? And I've never heard any clinical evidence that head trauma causes someone to become psychotic or suicidal.

Talk about jumping to conclusions.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0903b.shtml

The NHL lost 3 "enforcers" to suicide in the last few years.. Wasn't quite as tragic as this mind you but there definitely is a link between concussions and depression.

bandwgn86
12-04-2012, 08:32 AM
I don't think the Chiefs will end up formally honoring him. They showed good taste in having a moment of silence in honor of domestic violence victims instead of a moment of silence for him. Romeo has handled this situation very well.Agreed. Such a tragedy, the child is young enough not to remember this (which is good) and hopefully goes to a good home with loving adopted parents.