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appodictic
12-04-2012, 12:43 AM
Blackburn
Rolle
Prince
Brown
Phillips (when healthy)

Are the only people that make any impact plays. Blackburn causes a turnover a game just about, prince makes nice tackles good coverage. Rolle is very versatile Steve Brown looks good for the first year. When phillips plays we look good.

JPP needs to loose some weight. Tuck and Osi are done. Canty Bernard non factors. Every linebacked outside blackburn is trash.

That entire dumb game was 2 plays option run up the middle/ option griffin run right. The front line got manhandled. The giants barely got a hit on griffin, Fewel had 0 creativity. How about a corner blitz or a 5 man front?

I mean I guess holding a team to 17 points is pretty good, but like every run for the redskins was like 8 yards. What a mess.

And then mr 4th quarter comes in and goes 3 and out. Bla.

Diamondring
12-04-2012, 12:46 AM
You may be right. I've made a post we need players for RG3. We get that then we got players for every rb and player like him to make him ordinary. Yet it may be hard to do that cause the Giants have had a lot of success and the players we need may be in the early rounds.

Rudyy
12-04-2012, 12:46 AM
I've been trying to voice this, well said.

Cloud57
12-04-2012, 12:47 AM
Blackburn
Rolle
Prince
Brown
Phillips (when healthy)

Are the only people that make any impact plays. Blackburn causes a turnover a game just about, prince makes nice tackles good coverage. Rolle is very versatile Steve Brown looks good for the first year. When phillips plays we look good.

JPP needs to loose some weight. Tuck and Osi are done. Canty Bernard non factors. Every linebacked outside blackburn is trash.

That entire dumb game was 2 plays option run up the middle/ option griffin run right. The front line got manhandled. The giants barely got a hit on griffin, Fewel had 0 creativity. How about a corner blitz or a 5 man front?

I mean I guess holding a team to 17 points is pretty good, but like every run for the redskins was like 8 yards. What a mess.

And then mr 4th quarter comes in and goes 3 and out. Bla.lol are you saying JPP needs to go on a diet?

GiantWarfare
12-04-2012, 12:51 AM
Please, JPP is the last of our defensive woes. He is almost always doubled, sometimes TRIPLED. TRIPLED man! The hell are you expecting when he gets mauled by two lineman then gets chipped by a TE/RB? He's human.

Tuck is just a slightly above average DE at this stage in his career. Osi has played much better in recent weeks but he's also meh....

What this defense needs is LINEBACKERS. GET SOME STUD LBS GODDAMMIT....

appodictic
12-04-2012, 01:02 AM
Please, JPP is the last of our defensive woes. He is almost always doubled, sometimes TRIPLED. TRIPLED man! The hell are you expecting when he gets mauled by two lineman then gets chipped by a TE/RB? He's human.

Tuck is just a slightly above average DE at this stage in his career. Osi has played much better in recent weeks but he's also meh....

What this defense needs is LINEBACKERS. GET SOME STUD LBS GODDAMMIT....

If JPP gets double and tripped teamed then it means that everyone else on the giants D Line is a terrible.

Tuck is slightly above average..... is 1 tackle in a game above average?
Osi probably had one tackle too.... he has his little strip sack gig but that is not stopping griffin or anyone who runs at him.

Stud linebackers? Kiwi is DE turned LB....Yet where is he on runs... No where!

Go check the stats on NFL.com weak.

GiantWarfare
12-04-2012, 01:11 AM
If JPP gets double and tripped teamed then it means that everyone else on the giants D Line is a terrible.

Tuck is slightly above average..... is 1 tackle in a game above average?
Osi probably had one tackle too.... he has his little strip sack gig but that is not stopping griffin or anyone who runs at him.

Stud linebackers? Kiwi is DE turned LB....Yet where is he on runs... No where!

Go check the stats on NFL.com weak.

We're on the same page here bro...

We need some stud LBs, something we've been lacking FOREVER...

As for Tuck, I guess I was being generous. The point is, aside from injuries, our defensive deficiencies fall on our refusal to acquire some impact linebackers. That falls on management. BTW Kiwi is a DE and should be on the line.

joemorrisforprez
12-04-2012, 01:13 AM
Marvin Austin - bust.

Toadofsteel
12-04-2012, 01:21 AM
To the OP: Prince is also solid on our defense. I'd include him in your list. He's pretty good at shutting down his target even if you don't hear his name called that often.

But Please for the love of crap get rid of Webster. Hosley is better than him at this point...

BlueBlooded1979
12-04-2012, 01:46 AM
lol are you saying JPP needs to go on a diet?

JPP is starting to look like a 5 technique.

nycsportzfan
12-04-2012, 01:57 AM
TUCK and OSI and WEBSTER are huge problems.. I've been saying for the longest time that the guys who've been on both SB champion teams need to go, becuase there under the assumption u can be a laxadazical bum whenever u want, as long as when the game is absoulute must win(like GB last wk), and pretty much NO this wk, u take care of bussiness.. THey have been on many giant teams now that have looked buried and win at the last second to secure postseason play, and they are the vets that the young guys follow on this team..

Its frustrating becuase its such a dangerous way to play and it can really bite u in the rear at any point.. Its very unprofessional as well.. I want OSI, TUCK, and WEBSTER gone after this yr, as i wanted OSI gone before this yr began..

Wheres all the people who wanted OSI to get that big contract now? How u coulden't see his and tucks demise coming is beyond me.. Take off the blinders!

nycsportzfan
12-04-2012, 01:57 AM
ELI is the exception...

Toadofsteel
12-04-2012, 02:02 AM
ELI is the exception...

Blackburn can stay too (he was on the team for both SB runs, albeit ST only in the first one).