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ozzie0075
12-12-2012, 06:59 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Roger Goodell said NFL is exploring the idea of expanding the playoffs from 12 to 14 or 16 teams.

Can't wait for those 7-9 playoff teams.

Rudyy
12-12-2012, 07:00 PM
No thank you!

ozzie0075
12-12-2012, 07:03 PM
I think at some point it happens. Just to much money for the league not to do it. Players and coaches would like it as they typically get bonuses for making the playoffs.

Rusty192
12-12-2012, 07:04 PM
What is this? Basketball?

Cloud57
12-12-2012, 07:07 PM
No No and No. we'll have garbage teams in weak divisions making the playfoffs every year, not fair.

ozzie0075
12-12-2012, 07:10 PM
No No and No. we'll have garbage teams in weak divisions making the playfoffs every year, not fair.

Wouldn't be so bad in a year like this one where you could have a 10-6 Redskins, Cowboys, Bears or Giants team miss the playoffs.

TheEnigma
12-12-2012, 07:10 PM
Just go start your own league Goodell. He's proposing WAY too many changes.

drewz
12-12-2012, 07:12 PM
I hate Goodell

PETEY006
12-12-2012, 07:14 PM
Keep the playoffs they way they are.. I actually like the nfl format better than the nba or baseball. It feels just right. The nba has too many team and the mlb has too few. The nfl has it just right

ozzie0075
12-12-2012, 07:16 PM
Keep the playoffs they way they are.. I actually like the nfl format better than the nba or baseball. It feels just right. The nba has too many team and the mlb has too few. The nfl has it just right

The problem is if this goes to an owners vote I think it gets approved because all they care about is money.

joemorrisforprez
12-12-2012, 07:44 PM
Money rules.....it will happen.

Coaches would like it, since missing the playoffs is "hot seat" material.

Making the playoffs makes fans happier, too.....so really, it's the purists versus everyone else.

nycisgreat
12-12-2012, 07:52 PM
14 teams should be good. I think the first bye round is now overrated because players are more protected now then they were in the pass. Also, most of these guys don't know what astro-turf is and how hard it can be. The turf monster caused some of most serious injuries I have seen in the game.

harrycarson
12-12-2012, 07:52 PM
It seems more and more the new leaders of corporations want to show corporate leaders they are trying to make changes for what they think is a quick fix but what many fail to realize is things are the way they are and have been for long periods for a reason

ozzie0075
12-12-2012, 07:54 PM
14 teams should be good. I think the first bye round is now overrated because players are more protected now then they were in the pass. Also, most of these guys don't know what astro-turf is and how hard it can be.

Yeah the only way 14 works is the number one seed on each side gets a bye and the other 6 teams in each conference play in the first round.

tomt
12-12-2012, 08:22 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Roger Goodell said NFL is exploring the idea of expanding the playoffs from 12 to 14 or 16 teams.

Can't wait for those 7-9 playoff teams.

The commish is very inconsistent. He does things for player safety ie. changing rules, looking to eliminate kickoffs, etc. and yet for the sake of a few more $'s, he's pushing for an 18 game season and talking expansion of playoffs. The NFL is a good product, why's he messing with it?

ozzie0075
12-12-2012, 08:27 PM
The commish is very inconsistent. He does things for player safety ie. changing rules, looking to eliminate kickoffs, etc. and yet for the sake of a few more $'s, he's pushing for an 18 game season and talking expansion of playoffs. The NFL is a good product, why's he messing with it?

18 game season and expanded playoffs are all about money. At the end of the day the NFL is a business and the owners will do anything to put a little extra money in their pockets.

bELIeve_in_Giants
12-12-2012, 08:31 PM
Boo!

Hall of Fame
12-12-2012, 08:39 PM
I think the fact that a team can go 16-0 and get knocked out in one game is unfair, and an insult to a team that just might have a bad game as their first playoff game, and poof all that work during the season goes up in smoke.. Maybe they can do like 2 losses and you're knocked out of the playoffs, or best of 3. Or maybe the 2 teams that play in championship game can do a best of 3!

tomt
12-12-2012, 08:44 PM
18 game season and expanded playoffs are all about money. At the end of the day the NFL is a business and the owners will do anything to put a little extra money in their pockets.

Agreed it's about $'s. The thing is with tens of millions of $'s in concussion lawsuits pending, the game will soon evolve into something you won't recognize.

tomt
12-12-2012, 08:48 PM
I think the fact that a team can go 16-0 and get knocked out in one game is unfair, and an insult to a team that just might have a bad game as their first playoff game, and poof all that work during the season goes up in smoke.. Maybe they can do like 2 losses and you're knocked out of the playoffs, or best of 3. Or maybe the 2 teams that play inchapinship game can do a best of 3!

The "one and done" playoff format is what makes the NFL playoffs tremendously exciting. Gotta bring your A game because, like you say, poof, all that work could go up in smoke.

Ladder27
12-12-2012, 08:53 PM
What happen to player safety, to many games are going to put more guys on the IR.

Jet-Blue
12-12-2012, 08:54 PM
Yeah the only way 14 works is the number one seed on each side gets a bye and the other 6 teams in each conference play in the first round.

Which is only an extra Playoff Game per Conference, which really only effects the #2 Seed who doesn't get a bye the first round. The 18 game season that someone mentioned would more than likely reduce the number of Pre-season game so you still have 20 games. As a season ticket holder I'm for that.

Signature NYG
12-12-2012, 08:55 PM
How would this even work?

Redeyejedi
12-12-2012, 09:46 PM
I really hope they dont it will make the regular season meaningless.

Redeyejedi
12-12-2012, 09:47 PM
All 53 guys should be able to play each week

Rudyy
12-12-2012, 09:49 PM
Half the league would be in the playoffs..that's ridiculous.

rtr1105
12-12-2012, 09:51 PM
This would be the stupidest thing ever, MAYBE worse than the proposal to eliminate kickoffs. The divisions aren't well balanced, and especially in the AFC, too many 7-9 and maybe the occasional 6-10 teams would make the playoffs. The six that currently make it is good as it is. We don't need this turn into basketball, nor take away the meaning of the regular season.

foosball
12-12-2012, 09:53 PM
Erhm really bad idea.

rtr1105
12-12-2012, 09:54 PM
I think the fact that a team can go 16-0 and get knocked out in one game is unfair, and an insult to a team that just might have a bad game as their first playoff game, and poof all that work during the season goes up in smoke.. Maybe they can do like 2 losses and you're knocked out of the playoffs, or best of 3. Or maybe the 2 teams that play in championship game can do a best of 3!

The "one and done" concept is so much more exciting. Just like in the regular season, every game is huge. You have to beat the best in the playoffs to be the best, no excuses. Plus, if there was a best of 3 then the season would go on until May.

JJC7301
12-12-2012, 09:58 PM
No thank you!
+1. I think the current format is perfect. No more teams.

Cloud57
12-12-2012, 10:06 PM
The commish is very inconsistent. He does things for player safety ie. changing rules, looking to eliminate kickoffs, etc. and yet for the sake of a few more $'s, he's pushing for an 18 game season and talking expansion of playoffs. The NFL is a good product, why's he messing with it?more money in his pocket too

TheAnalyst
12-12-2012, 10:10 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefterRoger Goodell said NFL is exploring the idea of expanding the playoffs from 12 to 14 or 16 teams.Can't wait for those 7-9 playoff teams. 7-9 Seahawks beat the 13-3 Saints a few years ago.

Jet-Blue
12-12-2012, 10:40 PM
These are the 7th seeds from 2000 to 2011, not as bad as most here are saying,



2011
Titans
9-7
Bears
8-8


2010
Chargers
9-7
Giants
10-6


2009
Texans
9-7
Falcons
9-7


2008
Patriots
11-5
Bucs
9-7


2007
Browns
10-6
Vikings
8-8


2006
Broncos
9-7
Rams
8-8


2005
Chiefs
10-6
Cowboys
9-7


2004
Bills
9-7
Saints
8-8


2003
Dolphins
10-6
Vikings
9-7


2002
Patriots
9-7
Saints
9-7


2001
Seahawks
9-7
Redskins
8-8


2000
Steelers
9-7
Lions
9-7

rtr1105
12-12-2012, 10:49 PM
These are the 7th seeds from 2000 to 2011, not as bad as most here are saying,



2011
Titans
9-7
Bears
8-8


2010
Chargers
9-7
Giants
10-6


2009
Texans
9-7
Falcons
9-7


2008
Patriots
11-5
Bucs
9-7


2007
Browns
10-6
Vikings
8-8


2006
Broncos
9-7
Rams
8-8


2005
Chiefs
10-6
Cowboys
9-7


2004
Bills
9-7
Saints
8-8


2003
Dolphins
10-6
Vikings
9-7


2002
Patriots
9-7
Saints
9-7


2001
Seahawks
9-7
Redskins
8-8


2000
Steelers
9-7
Lions
9-7



Okay. Well the current format gives the regular season more meaning. Let's just say you let all of those teams in that you mentioned. Well what about the 8 seeds? I'm sure there are quite a few 8-8 and 7-9's in there. That would mean that you could pretty much be guaranteed a playoff spot with a 8-8 or 9-7 record. Also, if you did 7 teams from each conference, the playoff system would get messed up. The likely way it would done would be if the first seed gets a bye to the conference championship and the other teams have to play 2 games (2nd and 3rd seed) or 3 games (4-7 seeds) before the #1 seed even plays. While this balance would be good to make it harder on the 7th seed than the 1st seed, it would be unfair to the 2nd seed, who could potentially have been 13-3, but lost out to the 1st seed due to some tiebreaker. 1 more game is decent sized difference, but two whole games is a huge difference, especially putting the 2nd seed (a very good spot to have) at a big disadvantage.

TheAnalyst
12-12-2012, 10:59 PM
Wonder how they would set up a 7 team per conference playoff. Only the #1 gets a bye? #2 plays #7, 3v6, 4v5 I guess.

Jet-Blue
12-12-2012, 10:59 PM
It would be more like #1 seed gets a bye the first week. Seeds 2 thru 7 play the wildcard week. Those 3 winners and the #1 Seed play week 2, third week is the conference game. Not bad at all. There is only 1 more game and only 1 team is off a week instead of 2 teams like it is now.

G-Men Surg.
12-13-2012, 12:00 AM
What is this? Basketball?
Sounds more like 3rd world soccer league.

ashleymarie
12-13-2012, 12:07 AM
I'm not liking the sound of it.

mike kennedy
12-13-2012, 12:28 AM
How much more is the league gonna let him screw up?

Cloud57
12-13-2012, 12:36 AM
How much more is the league gonna let him screw up?probably create more teams, instead of 32 they'll be 40 now

joemorrisforprez
12-13-2012, 01:32 AM
Yeah the only way 14 works is the number one seed on each side gets a bye and the other 6 teams in each conference play in the first round.

I think this would be cool.

It would create more meaningful games in December, which would generate more interest around the league.

4 division winners, and 3 wildcards, top seed gets the week off. Seems pretty balanced to me.

GiantRoc
12-13-2012, 02:27 AM
I agree. It is a big money grab. Is see the union going for it. They will fight the extended season though. It will take a bit away from the regular season I think.

EnragedYouth85
12-13-2012, 02:31 AM
I think this would be cool.

It would create more meaningful games in December, which would generate more interest around the league.

4 division winners, and 3 wildcards, top seed gets the week off. Seems pretty balanced to me.

Yeah if they do do this, I think this would be the best format. No extra games and only 1 extra wildcard per conference.

miked1958
12-13-2012, 02:57 AM
Yeah the only way 14 works is the number one seed on each side gets a bye and the other 6 teams in each conference play in the first round.i don't think teams would appreciate losing the bye for the 2nd best record in their conferences

EnragedYouth85
12-13-2012, 02:58 AM
i don't think teams would appreciate losing the bye for the 2nd best record in their conferences

They would have to bump it up to 16 teams then... I don't like half the league getting into the playoffs..

miked1958
12-13-2012, 02:58 AM
i don't think teams would appreciate losing the bye for the 2nd best record in their conferencesif it gets approved at all they'd have to add for a 16 team format. With 8 per conference making it in it would add byes not take away one. If I'm correct that would allow the top 4 teams in each conference to take WC weekend off.

Captain Chaos
12-13-2012, 05:49 AM
They could add two teams to the mix and not even blink, of course that would take away the Bye for the top two teams, I'm sure the revenue is driving this.

SweetZombieJesus
12-13-2012, 06:15 AM
Wouldn't be so bad in a year like this one where you could have a 10-6 Redskins, Cowboys, Bears or Giants team miss the playoffs.

I think it's already bad enough that 12/32 teams make the playoffs, but you have a point... When we went 10-6 in 2010 it sure stung and that scenario has happened a couple times, happened to the Pats the year before us I think...

So I assume they would eliminate the bye for the top seeds? I don't know if I can take another full round tacked on.

GMan-67
12-13-2012, 07:16 AM
im for it, there is nothing more intense and compelling than playoff games

and with schedules and injuries playing such a huge part in who makes it and who doesnt, it would be more fair

plus you only have 16 games, it's such a small sample size ... id be interested to see which baseball teams would have made the postseason after only 16 games

the only downside that i see is that we have had several 8-8 teams making the playoffs under the current system, so it would open up the possibility of 7-9 teams making it and that would be criticized

having said that, i dont think we would see that many true blowouts with all the parity in the league

finally, with the players union rejecting an 18 game schedule, this seems like a good compromise

Redeyejedi
12-13-2012, 07:54 AM
Could u guys imagine if half the NFL playoffs how many games the Giants would sleep through then. They probably would play hard 10 games a year. Cowboy fan that follows me on Twitter said I dont see the big picture. That many good teams that are 10-6 in tough divisions dont get in. Yes that happens and when it does it usually means the other conference is terrible like this year. The AFC is so bad this year the NY Jets may end up in the playoffs.

GameTime
12-13-2012, 08:50 AM
enough already...at 14 you have almost 50% of the teams making the playoffs and at 16 of course you are there.

12 is enough........The NFL is popular enough and makes enough money. Not needed.

Harooni
12-13-2012, 09:05 AM
Just go start your own league Goodell. He's proposing WAY too many changes. agreed. STOP CHANGING THE GAME!!!!


im thinking of starting a new league with all 80's rules . who would watch???

Jet-Blue
12-13-2012, 09:28 AM
Yeah if they do do this, I think this would be the best format. No extra games and only 1 extra wildcard per conference.

You wind up with 1 extra play-off game per conference. Right now each conference has 5 Playoff games. With a seventh team you wind up with 6 Play-off games per conference. But like now the most there would be is 3 games in the post season for a team if they didn't get a bye the first week, just like it is now.

Harooni
12-13-2012, 09:30 AM
what they should have done was take 2 preseason games away and add 2 reg season games and leave the playoffs alone. who wants to see sub .500 team make the playoffs??

TroyArcher
12-13-2012, 09:45 AM
One word - Stupid

TroyArcher
12-13-2012, 09:47 AM
what they should have done was take 2 preseason games away and add 2 reg season games and leave the playoffs alone. who wants to see sub .500 team make the playoffs??

Teams can't stay healthy now and you want to add two games, not a good idea. What they need to do is to allow more flexibility with IR and perhaps a secon bye week during the season for guys to rest up.

crossouttheeyes
12-13-2012, 09:52 AM
That would be horrible. The playoffs are perfect the way they are.

No one wants mediocre teams in the playoffs. Teams like this year's Jets would make the playoffs every year. Does anybody really want that?

Mercury
12-13-2012, 10:20 AM
You are all making big assumptions regarding this. A 7-9 (or worse) team is more likely to be a division winner in a weak division, the way it is right now. The likelyhood of the 7th seed being 7-9 or worse is not very likely.

Your assumption is that division winners get in. They may very well change that at the same time. They could make it where only the 7 top records (or 8 or 9) in the conference make it to the playoffs.

For the record, I think they would be making a big mistake. You'd have teams with nothing to play for late in the season, whereas now they want to play for a bye week. Take away the bye week and you would have some meaningless games late season.

Kruunch
12-13-2012, 11:14 AM
I'd love seeing more teams play in the play offs but I never want to see 7-9 (or even 8-8) teams in the play offs.

Jet-Blue
12-13-2012, 11:37 AM
I'd love seeing more teams play in the play offs but I never want to see 7-9 (or even 8-8) teams in the play offs.

Of the 24, 7th seeded teams since 2000, only 5 teams were 8 -8. 20% not too bad. If they went to 16 teams, then you would see more 8-8 teams. I doubt you see anything less then that in the "Wildcard" spots.

Jet-Blue
12-13-2012, 11:40 AM
Teams can't stay healthy now and you want to add two games, not a good idea. What they need to do is to allow more flexibility with IR and perhaps a second bye week during the season for guys to rest up.

Agreed, and maybe adding 5 or 6 more spots to the roster.

Jet-Blue
12-13-2012, 07:24 PM
I looked up the 8th seeds, by then you really start seeing the 8-8 middle of the road teams. If they do expand it, hope they keep it at only 14 teams not 16.




AFC
NFC



7th Seed
8th Seed
7th Seed
8th Seed


2011
Titans
9-7
Jets
8-8
Bears
8-8
Cards
8-8


2010
Chargers
9-7
Jags
8-8
Giants
10-6
Bucs
10-6


2009
Texans
9-7
Steelers
9-7
Falcons
9-7
Panthers
8-8


2008
Patriots
11-5
Jets
9-7
Bucs
9-7
Cowboys
9-7


2007
Browns
10-6
Texans
8-8
Vikings
8-8
Eagles
8-8


2006
Broncos
9-7
Jags
8-8
Rams
8-8
Panthers
8-8


2005
Chiefs
10-6
Chargers
9-7
Cowboys
9-7
Vikings
9-7


2004
Bills
9-7
Ravens
9-7
Saints
8-8
Panthers
7-9


2003
Dolphins
10-6
Bengals
8-8
Vikings
9-7
Saints
8-8


2002
Patriots
9-7
Broncos
9-7
Saints
9-7
Rams
7-9


2001
Seahawks
9-7
Broncos
8-8
Redskins
8-8
Giants
7-9


2000
Steelers
9-7
Jets
9-7
Lions
9-7
Packers
9-7

FIFTY6G-MAN
12-13-2012, 07:42 PM
agreed. STOP CHANGING THE GAME!!!!


im thinking of starting a new league with all 80's rules . who would watch???Im in and I would want to coach!

ShakeandBake
12-13-2012, 08:04 PM
Goodell needs to get another job, the guy is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He claims to be all about player safety meanwhile he's been trying to add more games any way he can which will cause more injuries during the expanded year!

CDN_G-FAN
12-13-2012, 08:20 PM
he can't get an 18 game schedule, so instead he'll expand the playoffs so there's more post season games.

love what money is doing to this league.

joemorrisforprez
12-13-2012, 10:12 PM
The way I boil it down:

If you go to 14 berths.......2 extra teams....eliminate the #2 seed bye, and add two more playoff games in the first round.

Seems like a good tradeoff to me.

gmenfan0488
12-13-2012, 11:07 PM
Goodell, lay off the drugs man.

FIFTY6G-MAN
12-13-2012, 11:20 PM
The way I boil it down:

If you go to 14 berths.......2 extra teams....eliminate the #2 seed bye, and add two more playoff games in the first round.

Seems like a good tradeoff to me.NO, Do not change a thing it is just fine now. If anything get rid of the BS rules against the QB!!! I dont want anymore college scores. I want tough D!!! Lots of running to gain ground and clock control, even with Eli. I want the short passes for long gains. makem work for it!!! WE WILL WIN!

Jet-Blue
12-14-2012, 02:30 AM
Goodell needs to get another job, the guy is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He claims to be all about player safety meanwhile he's been trying to add more games any way he can which will cause more injuries during the expanded year!

Right now to get to the Super Bowl you have a maximum of 23 games to play in a season. 4 preseason, 16 regular season and at the most 3 playoff games. A 14 team play-off would have the same number of games per team. A 16 team play-off at the most would add 1 more game for a Wildcard team, but that would depend if all division winners get a bye the first week. If no-one gets a bye then it is still 23 games.

If they wanted to expand the regular season to 18 games, then 2 of the preseason would go away, and you'd still have the same as mentioned above. It's all about money, but I'm not seeing a major impact on player safety by what he "Might" propose.

If he wants to add a game, get rid of the "Pro-Bowl" and let the 2 losers of the AFC/NFC Championship game play each other that week.

MikeyMike01
12-14-2012, 04:08 AM
This would totally ruin the playoffs.

SweetZombieJesus
12-14-2012, 06:10 AM
Wow JetBlue I forgot the Pats were 11-5 not 10-6 when they missed the playoffs. That's probably REALLY what's driving this (aside from increased revenue and more games).

One 11-5 team and five 10-6 teams have missed the playoffs since 2000... I can buy an argument that this isn't fair. Especially 11-5.

BlueSanta
12-14-2012, 06:40 AM
I am not for this idea so much, but I can say that the argument for it is pretty easily made considering how many wildcard teams that barely made the playoffs have recently won the Superbowl.

That extremely mediocre Seahawks team winning the playoff game a couple years ago also kind of helps the case.

Jet-Blue
12-14-2012, 07:01 AM
Wow JetBlue I forgot the Pats were 11-5 not 10-6 when they missed the playoffs. That's probably REALLY what's driving this (aside from increased revenue and more games).

One 11-5 team and five 10-6 teams have missed the playoffs since 2000... I can buy an argument that this isn't fair. Especially 11-5.

11-5 and you don't make it, go figure. That was the year that Giants went 12-4 and got a first round bye, but lost to the Eagles. The AFC had some high records that year. Titans 13-3, Steelers 12-4, Colts 12-4, Dolphins 11-5, Ravens 11-5, Pats 11-5, but the Chargers won the AFC West at 8-8.

stormblue
12-14-2012, 09:19 AM
its all relative......if you DON"T make the playoffs @ 11-5 .....or you DO make the playoffs @ 7-9...
would be because a Division is way up or way down that year....
and all the teams in that division will profit or peril accordingly with equal opportunity.
the only way to fix that would be to drop the divisions and just go by conference seeding....

anyway , it's just another money grab....i say bullspit.....leave it the way it is.

Moke
12-14-2012, 09:19 AM
Goodell is like anti-politician. He gets all these crazy ideas and he ACTUALLY wants to put them in effect.

stormblue
12-14-2012, 09:22 AM
Goodell is like anti-politician. He gets all these crazy ideas and he ACTUALLY wants to put them in effect.

he should be exiled to some island without Sunday Ticket