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RoanokeFan
12-19-2012, 06:31 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...cle-1.1222432e (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/raissman-banks-frank-giants-debacle-atlanta-article-1.1222432e)


Excerpt: "With 5:38 left in the fourth quarter, long after the Falcons had made the Giants quit inside the Georgia Dome, Carl Banks reflected on what was on the minds attached to the few ears actually left listening.

“This one,” Banks said, “can’t be over soon enough.”

The Giants could take solace in the fact that on radio you could only imagine how horrible their performance was in the 34-0 fiasco. Thanks to Banks’ and Bob Papa’s descriptions, visions of ineptitude were easily conjured. Their voices portrayed disgust, even contempt, for what they were watching.

After all, like many of their colleagues, they believed history would repeat itself and the Giants would again play winning football with their backs to the wall. The all-knowing were certain the Giants again would “get hot late” and make a run. By mid-week, that theory will be resurrected by some in the media as a rallying cry before the Giants head to Baltimore.

After listening to Banks and Papa on Sunday, that notion sounds more like a sales pitch for magic weight loss supplements sold on cable TV.

In the fourth, Papa dug in saying when the Giants “talk about how they like making it hard for us,” it sounds like self-serving baloney.

“And for the Giants, it’s go-time,” Banks said. “But they don’t even have a sense of urgency.”

His words carried even more weight because they came after watching Fox’s Tony Siragusa at halftime of the Giants-Falcons telecast. Siragusa said Tom Coughlin told the Giants “we came here to fight” but didn’t in the first 30 minutes. Siragusa: “Coughlin said, ‘But we are going to fight in this next 30 minutes,’” Read more...

EnragedYouth85
12-19-2012, 06:33 AM
I'm glad I slept through this game..

Buddy333
12-19-2012, 07:19 AM
It's frustrating hat this team needs to have a pep talk to know what's on the line.

appodictic
12-19-2012, 08:48 AM
No one really wants to fight on the giants when Eli throws a pick in the first minute of an important game. No one on the defence can play well because the nascar package could be renamed the "broke down ford" package. It is funny how people thought we were going to come in and beat an 11-2 team. Just because david wilson had 300 yards on the saints

TroyArcher
12-19-2012, 09:29 AM
Love Banks, Giants could use a Carl Banks on this team. He wouldn't put up with this soft play.

bigblue58
12-19-2012, 09:31 AM
The Nascar package needs to get hooked to a tow truck and hauled off to the junk yard!
In theory, lining up 4 DE's side by side sounds like a potentially lethal weapon as a pass rush............In reality, you line up 4 DE's side by side.....two DE's end up playing out of position.
There's a reason why they call a Defensive End a Defensive End......they play OFF THE END!

GameTime
12-19-2012, 09:51 AM
No one really wants to fight on the giants when Eli throws a pick in the first minute of an important game. No one on the defence can play well because the nascar package could be renamed the "broke down ford" package. It is funny how people thought we were going to come in and beat an 11-2 team. Just because david wilson had 300 yards on the saints
Had nothing to do with Wilson. I thought the Giants would beat the Falcons because if they play like they give a **** they can beat the Falcons.....

Kruunch
12-19-2012, 10:36 AM
Had nothing to do with Wilson. I thought the Giants would beat the Falcons because if they play like they give a **** they can beat the ANYONE .....

Fixed.

That's been the Giants' issue under TC ... pretty much his whole tenure. My feeling is the message gets lost after so much preaching. In the years we've won the Super Bowl, he changed up late. In 2007, the famous "he let his players in" moment. Last year with the "All in .." stuff. The issue is not the sound bite but getting the players believing your message.

Ironically, I've listened to Bellichick and he sounds almost identical to TC. The only difference that I can think of is Bellichick is much more hands on where TC relies completely on his coordinators for Xs and Os and general strategy. Not saying one is better than the other (plenty of hands-on HCs that lose in the NFL ... hello Singletary), but just illustrating the difference in styles.

Bottom line ... the players have lost the message (in their hearts). And yes, every athlete everywhere needs outside motivation in some form to endure the length of a full season.

I will say this for TC ... in positions like this, he tends to shine as a coach.

Toadofsteel
12-19-2012, 10:41 AM
Fixed.

That's been the Giants' issue under TC ... pretty much his whole tenure. My feeling is the message gets lost after so much preaching. In the years we've won the Super Bowl, he changed up late. In 2007, the famous "he let his players in" moment. Last year with the "All in .." stuff. The issue is not the sound bite but getting the players believing your message.

Ironically, I've listened to Bellichick and he sounds almost identical to TC. The only difference that I can think of is Bellichick is much more hands on where TC relies completely on his coordinators for Xs and Os and general strategy. Not saying one is better than the other (plenty of hands-on HCs that lose in the NFL ... hello Singletary), but just illustrating the difference in styles.

Bottom line ... the players have lost the message (in their hearts). And yes, every athlete everywhere needs outside motivation in some form to endure the length of a full season.

I will say this for TC ... in positions like this, he tends to shine as a coach.

It's times like this where we find out what this team is truly made of. Do the 2012 Giants soar like the 2007 and 2011 incarnations, or sink like the 2005, 2006, 2008, or 2010 versions?

Razur
12-19-2012, 10:46 AM
Fixed.

That's been the Giants' issue under TC ... pretty much his whole tenure. My feeling is the message gets lost after so much preaching. In the years we've won the Super Bowl, he changed up late. In 2007, the famous "he let his players in" moment. Last year with the "All in .." stuff. The issue is not the sound bite but getting the players believing your message.

Ironically, I've listened to Bellichick and he sounds almost identical to TC. The only difference that I can think of is Bellichick is much more hands on where TC relies completely on his coordinators for Xs and Os and general strategy. Not saying one is better than the other (plenty of hands-on HCs that lose in the NFL ... hello Singletary), but just illustrating the difference in styles.

Bottom line ... the players have lost the message (in their hearts). And yes, every athlete everywhere needs outside motivation in some form to endure the length of a full season.

I will say this for TC ... in positions like this, he tends to shine as a coach.

All the wisdom in world is completely voided, when fools are your audience. TC's messages now are like that "old story grandpa or Old uncle tommy" preach every family get -together..the players reactions to it are like teens who "have heard it before". Lectures, messages, inspiring speeches, what ever you want to call them, ONLY affect a fertile mind that is in need of it. Our players don't seem to be interested anymore.

Kruunch
12-19-2012, 10:49 AM
All the wisdom in world is completely voided, when fools are your audience. TC's messages now are like that "old story grandpa or Old uncle tommy" preach every family get -together..the players reactions to it are like teens who "have heard it before". Lectures, messages, inspiring speeches, what ever you want to call them, ONLY affect a fertile mind that is in need of it. Our players don't seem to be interested anymore.

Yeah but you could have made the exact same post last year after the second Redskins loss.

I'll take the SB rings and the ups and downs over being a team like the Ravens any day.

Razur
12-19-2012, 10:52 AM
Yeah but you could have made the exact same post last year after the second Redskins loss.

I'll take the SB rings and the ups and downs over being a team like the Ravens any day.

True dat ! Let's hope that what ever "hit home' last year hasn't flushed down the toilet. Maybe the bottom has fallen and we drive full steam ahead through the play-offs. Maybe humilation & desperation are THE catalysts!

GameTime
12-19-2012, 10:53 AM
All the wisdom in world is completely voided, when fools are your audience..
wow....this can be used in so many situations....great statetment

byron
12-19-2012, 11:04 AM
Fixed.

That's been the Giants' issue under TC ... pretty much his whole tenure. My feeling is the message gets lost after so much preaching. In the years we've won the Super Bowl, he changed up late. In 2007, the famous "he let his players in" moment. Last year with the "All in .." stuff. The issue is not the sound bite but getting the players believing your message.

Ironically, I've listened to Bellichick and he sounds almost identical to TC. The only difference that I can think of is Bellichick is much more hands on where TC relies completely on his coordinators for Xs and Os and general strategy. Not saying one is better than the other (plenty of hands-on HCs that lose in the NFL ... hello Singletary), but just illustrating the difference in styles.

Bottom line ... the players have lost the message (in their hearts). And yes, every athlete everywhere needs outside motivation in some form to endure the length of a full season.

I will say this for TC ... in positions like this, he tends to shine as a coach. yeah totally agree here..... Getting these players fired up I would guess can be tough...It could be almost any thing that sets it off ...you have see it then reinforce it ....telling a player/players when they get it right is damn important..it get the sidelines fired up and everybody believing .... when things are going bad you got to find something to get them pissed off....