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allentown PA
03-11-2012, 04:34 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round?How specific do you need us to be allentown? For example is offensive lineman OK or would you need it broken down to tackle, center etc?

on defense, DT,DE,Lber,CB, safety...offense Oline, wr,rb,qb

jomo
03-11-2012, 09:31 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round?How specific do you need us to be allentown? For example is offensive lineman OK or would you need it broken down to tackle, center etc? on defense, DT,DE,Lber,CB, safety...offense Oline, wr,rb,qbI'm guessing LB or WR.</P>


We haven't done so well at one of the them! lol</P>

YATittle1962
03-11-2012, 09:57 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round?

D line or DB

gotta be one of those

jomo
03-11-2012, 09:58 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

YATittle1962
03-11-2012, 10:02 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. *I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

gotta be CB then Allen, Ross & Prince are the only guys of the same position that I can think of

allentown PA
03-11-2012, 10:03 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. *I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

gotta be CB Allen, Ross & Prince are the only guys of the same position that I can think of

yea it was CB...sorry guys if the question was confusing..I should have explained it better from the start...ross, prince, and will allen.

YATittle1962
03-11-2012, 10:05 PM
name every first round DE

and first round S

since 1990

allentown PA
03-11-2012, 10:09 PM
name every first round DE

and first round S

since 1990

DE kiwi,JPP, cedric jones
safety: williams,KP,

thats all I got...prbly missing a bunch

jmike
03-11-2012, 10:09 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.

YATittle1962
03-11-2012, 10:12 PM
name every first round DE

and first round S

since 1990

DE kiwi,JPP, cedric jones
safety: williams,KP,

thats all I got...prbly missing a bunch

nah you got 'em all

just a weak question

:)

I thought someone might say Strahan

allentown PA
03-11-2012, 10:21 PM
name every first round DE

and first round S

since 1990

DE kiwi,JPP, cedric jones
safety: williams,KP,

thats all I got...prbly missing a bunch

nah you got 'em all

just a weak question

:)

I thought someone might say Strahan

Strahan was a 2nd...did u guys know huff was a 3rd and carson a 4th...wish we'd get a backer like one of them in the 3rd or 4th this year..lol

YATittle1962
03-11-2012, 10:30 PM
name every first round DE

and first round S

since 1990

DE kiwi,JPP, cedric jones
safety: williams,KP,

thats all I got...prbly missing a bunch

nah you got 'em all

just a weak question

:)

I thought someone might say Strahan

Strahan was a 2nd...did u guys know huff was a 3rd and carson a 4th...wish we'd get a backer like one of them in the 3rd or 4th this year..lol

yeah Stra was a second in year where we had no first

why did we have no first round pick in 1993?

jmike
03-11-2012, 10:34 PM
name every first round DE

and first round S

since 1990

DE kiwi,JPP, cedric jones
safety: williams,KP,

thats all I got...prbly missing a bunch

nah you got 'em all

just a weak question

:)

I thought someone might say Strahan

Strahan was a 2nd...did u guys know huff was a 3rd and carson a 4th...wish we'd get a backer like one of them in the 3rd or 4th this year..lol

yeah Stra was a second in year where we had no first

why did we have no first round pick in 1993?Dave Brown Supp pick in 1992

jomo
03-11-2012, 11:11 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.
lol, first things first, good to see you back jmike. I don't know how long you've been back but hope you time away was productive. You were missed.</P>


Next, I am guilty of misreading the question. I thought allentown was after where we had used the most draft choices overall since 2000 rather than where we used our #1's. No more trying to do this stuff from my smart phone. These eyes need a real computer screen. Cheers!</P>

jmike
03-11-2012, 11:35 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.
lol, first things first, good to see you back jmike. I don't know how long you've been back but hope you time away was productive. You were missed.</p>


Next, I am guilty of misreading the question. I thought allentown was after where we had used the most draft choices overall since 2000 rather than where we used our #1's. No more trying to do this stuff from my smart phone. These eyes need a real computer screen. Cheers!</p>Thank you jomo....I'm never one to be overly productive.

Glad to hear you misread....I was beginning to think you took a bump on the noggin.

jomo
03-11-2012, 11:41 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.
lol, first things first, good to see you back jmike. I don't know how long you've been back but hope you time away was productive. You were missed.</P>


Next, I am guilty of misreading the question. I thought allentown was after where we had used the most draft choices overall since 2000 rather than where we used our #1's. No more trying to do this stuff from my smart phone. These eyes need a real computer screen. Cheers!</P>Thank you jomo....I'm never one to be overly productive.

Glad to hear you misread....I was beginning to think you took a bump on the noggin.
I have taken many of them but none recently. [:D]

zimonami
03-12-2012, 09:40 AM
Three years yesterday, YA. Congrats on creating one of the all-time best threads... you know it has been important to me.
:))

YATittle1962
03-12-2012, 11:41 AM
Three years yesterday, YA. Congrats on creating one of the all-time best threads... you know it has been important to me.
:))

wow I didnt even realize it was the anniversary

awesome!!!

...and yes it means to world to me and all of us that this thread and us in it could be of the slightest help through your roughest of times

it has seriously been my sanctuary at times as well

happy anniversary to the old girl DYK

allentown PA
03-12-2012, 04:28 PM
Three years yesterday, YA. Congrats on creating one of the all-time best threads... you know it has been important to me.
:))

it is a cool thread..ive learned a lot

allentown PA
03-12-2012, 04:34 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. *I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.


in that 84 draft what other linebacker did the giants draft in the 4th round that year?

zimonami
03-12-2012, 07:00 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. *I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.


in that 84 draft what other linebacker did the giants draft in the 4th round that year?
Gary Reasons... and, I believe Gary was better than any LB we have today. Totally solid LB who fit the 3-4 perfectly along side Harry

jomo
03-12-2012, 08:08 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.
in that 84 draft what other linebacker did the giants draft in the 4th round that year? Gary Reasons... and, I believe Gary was better than any LB we have today. Totally solid LB who fit the 3-4 perfectly along side HarryReasons authored one of the most memorable goal line sticks by any Giants linebacker, ever!</P>


What team were we playing at the time. Those who saw the hit won't need much prompting on this one.</P>


PS If you haven't seen it, simply Google: Gary Reasons The Hit. [:D]</P>

zimonami
03-12-2012, 08:28 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. *I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.
in that 84 draft what other linebacker did the giants draft in the 4th round that year? Gary Reasons... and, I believe Gary was better than any LB we have today. Totally solid LB who fit the 3-4 perfectly along side HarryReasons authored one of the most memorable goal line sticks by any Giants linebacker, ever!</P>


What team were we playing at the time. Those who saw the hit won't need much prompting on this one.</P>


PS If you haven't seen it, simply Google: Gary Reasons The Hit. [:D]</P>
Zimmy junps up and down, his little hand waving... "I know. I know, teacher."
"Let someone else have a chance," the teacher responds.

jomo
03-12-2012, 08:42 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.
in that 84 draft what other linebacker did the giants draft in the 4th round that year? Gary Reasons... and, I believe Gary was better than any LB we have today. Totally solid LB who fit the 3-4 perfectly along side HarryReasons authored one of the most memorable goal line sticks by any Giants linebacker, ever!</P>


What team were we playing at the time. Those who saw the hit won't need much prompting on this one.</P>


PS If you haven't seen it, simply Google: Gary Reasons The Hit. [:D]</P> Zimmy junps up and down, his little hand waving... "I know. I know, teacher." "Let someone else have a chance," the teacher responds.I know that on this thread we discourage online research to answer the questions but I think we could make an exception here. Maybe we should wait this one out Zim and the answer should come from someone who hasn't seen it before. The assignment is to go pull the You Tube video and after you are done yelling "that's just sick!" come back here and answer the question. What do you think?

allentown PA
03-12-2012, 08:45 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. *I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.
in that 84 draft what other linebacker did the giants draft in the 4th round that year? Gary Reasons... and, I believe Gary was better than any LB we have today. Totally solid LB who fit the 3-4 perfectly along side HarryReasons authored one of the most memorable goal line sticks by any Giants linebacker, ever!</P>


What team were we playing at the time. Those who saw the hit won't need much prompting on this one.</P>


PS If you haven't seen it, simply Google: Gary Reasons The Hit. [:D]</P> Zimmy junps up and down, his little hand waving... "I know. I know, teacher." "Let someone else have a chance," the teacher responds.I know that on this thread we discourage online research to answer the questions but I think we could make an exception here. Maybe we should wait this one out Zim and the answer should come from someone who hasn't seen it before. The assignment is to go pull the You Tube video and after you are done yelling "that's just sick!" come back here and answer the question. What do you think?

yup Reasons was it...banks and Reasons in the same draft...wouldnt mind getting 2 backers like that in the draft.

jomo
03-12-2012, 08:46 PM
Since 2000 what position have the giants drafted the most times in the 1st round? D line or DB gotta be one of thoseI think you may be surprised YA. Allentown peeled off the safeties from the CB's. He also split the DE's from the DT's. I think that may push the WR's or LB's to the front of the line.

Jomo, they haven't used a 1st round pick on a LBer since Carl Banks......I think I was in diapers at the time.
in that 84 draft what other linebacker did the giants draft in the 4th round that year? Gary Reasons... and, I believe Gary was better than any LB we have today. Totally solid LB who fit the 3-4 perfectly along side HarryReasons authored one of the most memorable goal line sticks by any Giants linebacker, ever!</P>


What team were we playing at the time. Those who saw the hit won't need much prompting on this one.</P>


PS If you haven't seen it, simply Google: Gary Reasons The Hit. [:D]</P> Zimmy junps up and down, his little hand waving... "I know. I know, teacher." "Let someone else have a chance," the teacher responds.I know that on this thread we discourage online research to answer the questions but I think we could make an exception here. Maybe we should wait this one out Zim and the answer should come from someone who hasn't seen it before. The assignment is to go pull the You Tube video and after you are done yelling "that's just sick!" come back here and answer the question. What do you think?

keyofgmen
03-12-2012, 09:39 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks

jomo
03-12-2012, 09:42 PM
To my brothers on DYK, Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless. RIP Lil Bro..... ThanksOur thoughts and prayers are with you and the family.

zimonami
03-12-2012, 09:48 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks
Wow, I'm really sorry. Key. I'm glad he had this last SB to enjoy. Keep some good memories of him, and the both of you togther. Some day all us Giant fans will have a big tailgating party together

keyofgmen
03-12-2012, 09:51 PM
To my brothers on DYK, Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless. RIP Lil Bro..... ThanksOur thoughts and prayers are with you and the family.

Thanks Jomo..tough stuff.

keyofgmen
03-12-2012, 09:53 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks
Wow, I'm really sorry. Key. I'm glad he had this last SB to enjoy. Keep some good memories of him, and the both of you togther. Some day all us Giant fans will have a big tailgating party together

Thanks Zim...ya know it was your posting of your personal loss a while ago that led me to feel this was OK to post here.
Here's to that party

zimonami
03-12-2012, 10:12 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks
Wow, I'm really sorry. Key. I'm glad he had this last SB to enjoy. Keep some good memories of him, and the both of you togther. Some day all us Giant fans will have a big tailgating party together

Thanks Zim...ya know it was your posting of your personal loss a while ago that led me to feel this was OK to post here.
Here's to that party
You know there are many on here who feel like an extended family. You guys were ll great when I needed a boost. Your family, Key... always will be.

jomo
03-12-2012, 10:42 PM
To my brothers on DYK, Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless. RIP Lil Bro..... ThanksOur thoughts and prayers are with you and the family. Thanks Jomo..tough stuff.Lost my sister one year ago last week, I feel it. Find your strengthin family and friends, including your friends here. The pain doesn't go away quickly......... but slowly memories of the good times overwhelm all other feelings.

keyofgmen
03-12-2012, 10:48 PM
To my brothers on DYK, Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless. RIP Lil Bro..... ThanksOur thoughts and prayers are with you and the family. Thanks Jomo..tough stuff.Lost my sister one year ago last week, I feel it. Find your strength*in family and friends, including your friends here. The pain doesn't go away quickly......... but slowly memories of the good times overwhelm all other feelings.

Lost siblings is tough, as you know..sorry.
I have a saying...

Love both creates and conquers pain......

allentown PA
03-12-2012, 11:10 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks

sorry man thats horrible...i dont know what else to say but im sorry and you have my deepest condolences....sorry again for your loss.

keyofgmen
03-12-2012, 11:18 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks

sorry man thats horrible...i dont know what else to say but im sorry and you have my deepest condolences....sorry again for your loss.

Hey man...that's all you can say..and it is appreciated. Thanks

ny06
03-12-2012, 11:27 PM
To my brothers on DYK, Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless. RIP Lil Bro..... Thanks</P>


My condolences to you and your family. </P>


</P>

jints10
03-13-2012, 09:11 AM
Sorry for your loss Key

This thread can be a great diversion

keyofgmen
03-13-2012, 10:54 AM
To my brothers on DYK, Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless. RIP Lil Bro..... Thanks</P>


My condolences to you and your family. </P>


*</P>

Thanks...appreciate it.

keyofgmen
03-13-2012, 10:55 AM
Sorry for your loss Key

This thread can be a great diversion

Thanks....best thread on TAGF.

YATittle1962
03-13-2012, 04:09 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks

so sorry for your loss my good man

he to now holds the best seat at MetLife Stadium along with so many of our fallen loved ones

thoughts and prayers are with you my friend

keyofgmen
03-13-2012, 04:40 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks

so sorry for your loss my good man

he to now holds the best seat at MetLife Stadium along with so many of our fallen loved ones

thoughts and prayers are with you my friend

Thanks YA.

Your Sig photo reminds me that when Alex Webster passed a couple of days before my Bro, I heard the news and had to tell my father. He had not heard yet, and I was afraid to tell him in light of my Bro's situation. He was a friend of Webster. I have had dinner with Webster a few times when he would visit my Dad years ago. My friends would find out which restaurant we would go to and get a table nearby....was funny. Would be at table with Webster, Svare, my brother and others feelin pretty cool as my friends were finding excuses to come over to say "hello"!
Memories of brother and our families connection to Giants is really helping right now.

zimonami
03-13-2012, 08:45 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks

so sorry for your loss my good man

he to now holds the best seat at MetLife Stadium along with so many of our fallen loved ones

thoughts and prayers are with you my friend

Thanks YA.

Your Sig photo reminds me that when Alex Webster passed a couple of days before my Bro, I heard the news and had to tell my father. He had not heard yet, and I was afraid to tell him in light of my Bro's situation. He was a friend of Webster. I have had dinner with Webster a few times when he would visit my Dad years ago. My friends would find out which restaurant we would go to and get a table nearby....was funny. Would be at table with Webster, Svare, my brother and others feelin pretty cool as my friends were finding excuses to come over to say "hello"!
Memories of brother and our families connection to Giants is really helping right now.
Harland Svare and Alex at your table? Had to be some excellent "Man's" conversation. Nice story, Key. My aunt Jean socialized with several Giants, but the only one I ever met was Harry Carson, and that was for 2 minutes at a signing. The early Giant's, '50's and 60's, were some very excellent peoples. Aunt jean always thought Kyle Rote was the nicest of them all.

SEC105
03-15-2012, 05:51 PM
To my brothers on DYK, Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless. RIP Lil Bro..... Thanks</P>


So sorry for your loss Key......been down south and just saw this May your brother Rest in Peace</P>


I'm sure He is looking down on us in heaven.....with Giant Blue on</P>


Hope this thread is asmall way of easing your pain SEC105</P>


Z</P>

keyofgmen
03-20-2012, 04:41 PM
To my brothers on DYK,

Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless.
RIP Lil Bro.....

Thanks

so sorry for your loss my good man

he to now holds the best seat at MetLife Stadium along with so many of our fallen loved ones

thoughts and prayers are with you my friend

Thanks YA.

Your Sig photo reminds me that when Alex Webster passed a couple of days before my Bro, I heard the news and had to tell my father. He had not heard yet, and I was afraid to tell him in light of my Bro's situation. He was a friend of Webster. I have had dinner with Webster a few times when he would visit my Dad years ago. My friends would find out which restaurant we would go to and get a table nearby....was funny. Would be at table with Webster, Svare, my brother and others feelin pretty cool as my friends were finding excuses to come over to say "hello"!
Memories of brother and our families connection to Giants is really helping right now.
Harland Svare and Alex at your table? Had to be some excellent "Man's" conversation. Nice story, Key. My aunt Jean socialized with several Giants, but the only one I ever met was Harry Carson, and that was for 2 minutes at a signing. The early Giant's, '50's and 60's, were some very excellent peoples. Aunt jean always thought Kyle Rote was the nicest of them all.

He has always been "Uncle Har" to me. Never forget as a young kid sitting in his apartment and players coming over after games...

keyofgmen
03-20-2012, 04:42 PM
To my brothers on DYK, Giant family lost another great fan. My younger brother passed after a long hard battle with kidney cancer this past week. He loved the GMEN and passed with a Giant hat on. His last great thing in his life was being at the Superbowl with my oldest brother. I gave them the seats, as I felt they needed it. Tough SOB could barely breath, but no way was he going to miss it! I wish I was there also. The smile on his face at the end of the game is timeless. RIP Lil Bro..... Thanks</P>


So sorry for your loss Key......been down south and just saw this*** May your brother Rest in Peace</P>


I'm sure He is looking down on us in heaven.....with Giant Blue on</P>


Hope this thread is a*small way of easing your pain** SEC105</P>


Z</P>

Thanks Bro

smotta57
03-20-2012, 07:16 PM
My condolences to you and your family. What a tragic loss. So sorry. How are you holding up?

scoopscj
03-20-2012, 09:49 PM
Checking in to this thread.... my deepest sympathies and my thoughts are with you and your family at this time of sadness. It was an awesome gift for him to see them win. I'm sure he will be rooting for our boys in whatever the next part of the journey takes him. God bless.



Scoops

BigBlue1971
03-20-2012, 11:50 PM
our prayers are with you and your family key! </P>


keep the faith my man!</P>

zimonami
03-21-2012, 12:23 AM
This thread has passed 3 million views... wow.
TY, YA... and congrats on a great thread

GmenFan1980
03-21-2012, 12:27 AM
This thread has passed 3 million views... wow.
TY, YA... and congrats on a great thread

This thread sucks......

http://www.dragonesnegros.com/foro/image.php?u=26365&dateline=1317978746

I love reading this threads comments http://boards.giants.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif

YATittle1962
03-21-2012, 03:15 PM
saddened by the passing of Ron Erhardt

what was his nickname among friends?

...and why was that his nickname?


rest easy Ron

zimonami
03-21-2012, 09:52 PM
saddened by the passing of Ron Erhardt

what was his nickname among friends?

...and why was that his nickname?


rest easy Ron
I knw I knew this at one time, YA... but the brain won't release it.
But, I can quickly make up a new one for him that fits... Tuna Helper.
He was a good Offensive coach for us. RIP, Ron... and Thank you.

SEC105
03-22-2012, 10:57 AM
saddened by the passing of Ron Erhardt what was his nickname among friends? ...and why was that his nickname? rest easy Ron</P>


Ron was called "Fargo" because of his North Dakota roots..........</P>


R. I. P. Fargo OC for many great Giant games and he was a big part of our first 2 Super Bowls</P>


http://www.mandanhistory.org/images/708_Erhardt_Sidelines_Cropped.jpg</P>


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YATittle1962
03-22-2012, 11:02 PM
saddened by the passing of Ron Erhardt what was his nickname among friends? ...and why was that his nickname? rest easy Ron</P>


Ron was called "Fargo"* because of his North Dakota roots..........</P>


R. I. P. Fargo** OC for many great Giant games and he was a big part of our first 2 Super Bowls</P>


*http://www.mandanhistory.org/images/708_Erhardt_Sidelines_Cropped.jpg</P>


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right on SEC

...and Zimmy...tuna helper had me losing it

nice!!!

allentown PA
03-23-2012, 08:39 PM
what running back scored 5 touchdowns in a playoff game against the giants?

YATittle1962
03-23-2012, 10:45 PM
what running back scored 5 touchdowns in a playoff game against the giants?

ugh

Ricky Watters

dont remind me

he could have easily had 6 or 7 if the other back wasnt in giving him a blow

allentown PA
03-23-2012, 10:49 PM
what running back scored 5 touchdowns in a playoff game against the giants?

ugh

Ricky Watters

dont remind me

he could have easily had 6 or 7 if the other back wasnt in giving him a blow

good work YA..yea sorry about the bad memory but to be honest with all the success the giants have had lately its been easy to relive the bad memories...just watched the 1988 giants vs eagles reg season game the one where they blocked the FG and had it run in...not so bad...lol...far more good times than bad for giant fans.

allentown PA
03-24-2012, 12:21 AM
non giant question: who is the only NFL head coach to coach his team to the number one seed in the playoffs 3 seperate times only to lose in the divisional round?

zimonami
03-24-2012, 12:56 AM
non giant question: who is the only NFL head coach to coach his team to the number one seed in the playoffs 3 seperate times only to lose in the divisional round?
Marty Schottenheimer??

allentown PA
03-24-2012, 12:58 AM
non giant question: who is the only NFL head coach to coach his team to the number one seed in the playoffs 3 seperate times only to lose in the divisional round?
Marty Schottenheimer??

yup..good job zim..i gotta get better questions

jomo
03-24-2012, 10:40 AM
Match a Giants starting quarterback with this mascot.</P>


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zimonami
03-24-2012, 07:56 PM
Match a Giants starting quarterback with this mascot.</P>


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Couldn't see it, jomo

jomo
03-24-2012, 08:54 PM
Match a Giants starting quarterback with this mascot.</P>


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Couldn't see it, jomoHow about this one Zim? Give me the University, the mascot name and the Giants QB (not current) who went there.</P>


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zimonami
03-24-2012, 10:52 PM
Match a Giants starting quarterback with this mascot.</P>


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Couldn't see it, jomoHow about this one Zim? Give me the University, the mascot name and the Giants QB (not current) who went there.</P>


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuIc_HyMwzJmPR-eT90PS5a6PNVvDnrVENzYwdE9MdwS0eNVNZ-A</P>


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I still don't see anything. But, I do see a Blue Bird in a cap and gown at the lower left. Is that supposed to be a U of Delaware Fighting Blue Hen?... which would be Scott Brunner.

jomo
03-24-2012, 11:12 PM
Match a Giants starting quarterback with this mascot.</P>


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If you are having trouble seeing the image, click on "quote" and it will come through. (I think lol)</P>


Couldn't see it, jomoHow about this one Zim? Give me the University, the mascot name and the Giants QB (not current) who went there.</P>


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuIc_HyMwzJmPR-eT90PS5a6PNVvDnrVENzYwdE9MdwS0eNVNZ-A</P>


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</P> I still don't see anything. But, I do see a Blue Bird in a cap and gown at the lower left. Is that supposed to be a U of Delaware Fighting Blue Hen?... which would be Scott Brunner.Yes Zim that is a fighting Blue Hen and you hit the trifecta!

jomo
03-24-2012, 11:38 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</P>


What Hall of Fame Giants kicker would you match with this mascot?</P>

jmike
03-25-2012, 03:20 AM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</p>


What Hall of Fame Giants kicker would you match with this mascot?</p>They let kickers in the hall of fame? Is there a waterboy wing too? Is that where they put John Clayton?

NYG 5
03-25-2012, 09:02 AM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</p>


What Hall of Fame Giants kicker would you match with this mascot?</p>

pat summerall?

jomo
03-25-2012, 09:32 AM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</P>


What legendaryGiants kicker would you match with this mascot?</P>

pat summerall?

jomo
03-25-2012, 09:35 AM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</P>


What legendaryGiants kicker would you match with this mascot?</P>

pat summerall?
Good guess but Summeral went to Arkansas. I should have said legendary Giants kicker and ring of honor member (not hall of fame). This mascot is from a more northerly institution and one that is much less known for football than Arkansas.

allentown PA
03-25-2012, 10:45 AM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</P>


What legendary*Giants kicker would you match with this mascot?</P>

pat summerall?


i cant think of the name but I think its that guy who was the first to use the soccer style kick...good question jomo.

allentown PA
03-25-2012, 11:17 AM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</p>


What Hall of Fame Giants kicker would you match with this mascot?</p>They let kickers in the hall of fame?* Is there a waterboy wing too?* Is that where they put John Clayton?


lol...I never saw him play but a lot of people think Ray Guy punter for the raiders should be in the hall...punting is an important part of the game...look how Weatherford effected games for us in the playoffs...he was great...however I do not think kickers should be allowed in.

zimonami
03-25-2012, 12:26 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</P>


What legendary*Giants kicker would you match with this mascot?</P>

pat summerall?


i cant think of the name but I think its that guy who was the first to use the soccer style kick...good question jomo.
WTG, allentown... I think you got it... Pete Gogolak from Cornell.
jomo, what makes you think Arkansas is better than Cornell? Have they ever played each other? NO!!! So, we don't know, do we?
hahaha.
would probably be 72-0, with the razorbacks 2nd string.

jomo
03-25-2012, 02:26 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilX2bwUGmIOkADNQeBc60y5sL9boSC Xbq3RoltfhDzy7vqPDLOQ</P>


What legendaryGiants kicker would you match with this mascot?</P>

pat summerall?
i cant think of the name but I think its that guy who was the first to use the soccer style kick...good question jomo. WTG, allentown... I think you got it... Pete Gogolak from Cornell. jomo, what makes you think Arkansas is better than Cornell? Have they ever played each other? NO!!! So, we don't know, do we? hahaha. would probably be 72-0, with the razorbacks 2nd string......but if they competed in the old TV show "College Bowl" Cornell wins in a walk! lol

jomo
03-25-2012, 05:51 PM
Here is an easy one. What connects **** Lynch to Mark Bavaro?

allentown PA
03-25-2012, 05:59 PM
Here is an easy one. What connects **** Lynch to Mark Bavaro?

the most successful college football program of all time...The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame!!!!!!!!!!

jomo
03-25-2012, 09:31 PM
Here is an easy one. What connects **** Lynch to Mark Bavaro? the most successful college football program of all time...The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame!!!!!!!!!!Well done allentown!</P>

allentown PA
03-25-2012, 09:56 PM
Here is an easy one. What connects **** Lynch to Mark Bavaro? the most successful college football program of all time...The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame!!!!!!!!!!Well done allentown!</P>

like ND almost as much as big blue

jomo
03-25-2012, 09:58 PM
Here is an easy one. What connects **** Lynch to Mark Bavaro? the most successful college football program of all time...The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame!!!!!!!!!!Well done allentown!</P> like ND almost as much as big blueThen I won't mention Derek Brown! [;)]

allentown PA
03-25-2012, 10:22 PM
Here is an easy one. What connects **** Lynch to Mark Bavaro? the most successful college football program of all time...The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame!!!!!!!!!!Well done allentown!</P> like ND almost as much as big blueThen I won't mention Derek Brown!* [;)]

ouch..lol

allentown PA
03-26-2012, 12:32 AM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?

GmenFan1980
03-26-2012, 01:46 AM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?

Totally guessing lol. Tom Brady?

I think he went off against the titans, but really have no idea.

GmenFan1980
03-26-2012, 01:50 AM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?

Totally guessing lol. Tom Brady?

I think he went off against the titans, but really have no idea.

Ha or once i got off my lazy *** and looked it up, Wikipedia laughs in my face to say the highest passing touchdowns apparently has only been 6 http://boards.giants.com/emoticons/emotion-4.gif

ny06
03-27-2012, 12:55 PM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?</P>


You may have not known but it is a Giant related question</P>


Because the last player to throw for 7 td's in a game was YA Tittle</P>


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/nsap417_large.jpg?w=240&amp;h=300</P>

allentown PA
03-27-2012, 03:08 PM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?</P>


You may have not known but it is a Giant related question</P>


Because the last player to throw for 7 td's in a game was YA Tittle</P>


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/nsap417_large.jpg?w=240&h=300</P>

yes YA did throw 7tds in a game...but he was not the last quarterback to do so...someone did it after him.

allentown PA
03-27-2012, 03:40 PM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?

Totally guessing lol. Tom Brady?

I think he went off against the titans, but really have no idea.

Ha or once i got off my lazy *** and looked it up, Wikipedia laughs in my face to say the highest passing touchdowns apparently has only been 6 http://boards.giants.com/emoticons/emotion-4.gif

nope it was 7

SEC105
03-27-2012, 05:49 PM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?</P>


Joe Kapp threw 7 TD passes in one game around 1969. The last one to do it and the only one after Y.A.........just wondering did you guys bring up Kapp because of his similaralties to Tim Tebow?</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVlcjWBj00</P>


Z</P>

allentown PA
03-27-2012, 05:59 PM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?</P>


Joe Kapp threw 7 TD passes in one game around 1969. The last one to do it and the only one after Y.A.........just wondering*** did you guys bring up Kapp because of his similaralties to Tim Tebow?</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVlcjWBj00</P>


Z</P>

yup it was Kapp..good work SEC....no..I had no idea he was similar to tebow...Did Kapp shove his religious beliefs down everyone's throats too?

SEC105
03-27-2012, 06:14 PM
non giant question: who is the last quarterback to throw 7 td passes in a game?</P>


Joe Kapp threw 7 TD passes in one game around 1969. The last one to do it and the only one after Y.A.........just wondering did you guys bring up Kapp because of his similaralties to Tim Tebow?</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVlcjWBj00</P>


Z</P>


yup it was Kapp..good work SEC....no..I had no idea he was similar to tebow...Did Kapp shove his religious beliefs down everyone's throats too?</P>


LOL.......... A. T. Kapp was and is the polar opposite of TT personality wise very tough guy</P>


Known for running skills but notso much as apasser In this article it decribes a fight he got into with former CFL adversary just a few years ago they had to belike 70 years old when the fisticuffs occured [:D]</P>


http://www.1500espn.com/blogs/this_wasnt_first_throwdown_for_joe_kapp</P>


Z</P>

jomo
04-04-2012, 05:48 PM
In the last 50 years, no one college has dominated the Giants first round selections. In fact, the most we have taken from any school over that period is 3 players and that has happened five different times. Can you name those 5 schools?

nygpolishpunk
04-04-2012, 06:01 PM
In the last 50 years, no one college has dominated the Giants first round selections. In fact, the most we have taken from any school over that period is 3 players and that has happened five different times. Can you name those 5 schools?
UNC
Miami
Colorado
Michigan State
Michigan

nygpolishpunk
04-04-2012, 06:03 PM
In the last 50 years, no one college has dominated the Giants first round selections. In fact, the most we have taken from any school over that period is 3 players and that has happened five different times. Can you name those 5 schools?
UNC
Miami
Colorado
Michigan State
Michigan

Notre Dame too, so your question isn't accurate :)

nygpolishpunk
04-04-2012, 06:05 PM
In the last 50 years, no one college has dominated the Giants first round selections. In fact, the most we have taken from any school over that period is 3 players and that has happened five different times. Can you name those 5 schools?
UNC
Miami
Colorado
Michigan State
Michigan

Notre Dame too, so your question isn't accurate :)

Hah! UNC shouldn't be on the list, so:
Miami
Colorado
Michigan State
Michigan
Notre Dame

jomo
04-04-2012, 07:10 PM
In the last 50 years, no one college has dominated the Giants first round selections. In fact, the most we have taken from any school over that period is 3 players and that has happened five different times. Can you name those 5 schools?
UNC
Miami
Colorado
Michigan State
Michigan

Notre Dame too, so your question isn't accurate :)

Hah! UNC shouldn't be on the list, so:
Miami
Colorado
Michigan State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Good job!

jomo
04-04-2012, 07:15 PM
Now for those 5 schools, here's my rank on which ones have produced the greatest players for us.</P>


1. Michigan StateWR Mark Ingram, LB Carl Banks, LB Brad Van Pelt</P>


2. MiamiS Kenny Phillips, DT William Joseph, TE Jeremy Shockey</P>


3. ColoradoDB Mark Haynes, DT Troy Archer, LB Jerry Hillebrand</P>


4. Notre DameT Luke Pettigout, TE Derrick Brown, (Ugh!), DL Eric Dorsey</P>


5. MichiganRB Tyrone Wheatley (did nothing for us), RB Jarrod Bunch, RB Butch Woolfolk</P>


Thoughts on my ranking?</P>

jints10
04-04-2012, 08:40 PM
Mark Bavaro went to Notre Dame

Amani Toomer went to Michigan

zimonami
04-04-2012, 08:58 PM
Mark Bavaro went to Notre Dame

Amani Toomer went to Michigan
NC might not have the numbers, but LT and Hakeem are a powerful duo... and, who knows, maybe Marvin Austin will make it three

YATittle1962
04-04-2012, 09:11 PM
name all 3
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8072/ap070411012779nflmezz12.jpg

GMENAGAIN
04-04-2012, 09:31 PM
Now for those 5 schools, here's my rank on which ones have produced the greatest players for us.</P>


1. Michigan StateWR Mark Ingram, LB Carl Banks, LB Brad Van Pelt</P>


2. MiamiS Kenny Phillips, DT William Joseph, TE Jeremy Shockey</P>


3. ColoradoDB Mark Haynes, DT Troy Archer, LB Jerry Hillebrand</P>


4. Notre DameT Luke Pettigout, TE Derrick Brown, (Ugh!), DL Eric Dorsey</P>


5. MichiganRB Tyrone Wheatley (did nothing for us), RB Jarrod Bunch, RB Butch Woolfolk</P>


Thoughts on my ranking?</P>


</P>


Add Rolle to the Miami list.</P>


Add Tuck and Bavaro to the ND list. </P>


Add Jumbo Elliott, Toomer, Ali Haji-Shiekand Manningham to the Michigan list.</P>

benched
04-04-2012, 09:32 PM
name all 3
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8072/ap070411012779nflmezz12.jpg

1st two easy...Morrison and Fran...Koontz not so easy!

jomo
04-04-2012, 10:06 PM
Now for those 5 schools, here's my rank on which ones have produced the greatest players for us.</P>


1. Michigan StateWR Mark Ingram, LB Carl Banks, LB Brad Van Pelt</P>


2. MiamiS Kenny Phillips, DT William Joseph, TE Jeremy Shockey</P>


3. ColoradoDB Mark Haynes, DT Troy Archer, LB Jerry Hillebrand</P>


4. Notre DameT Luke Pettigout, TE Derrick Brown, (Ugh!), DL Eric Dorsey</P>


5. MichiganRB Tyrone Wheatley (did nothing for us), RB Jarrod Bunch, RB Butch Woolfolk</P>


Thoughts on my ranking?</P>


</P>


Add Rolle to the Miami list.</P>


Add Tuck and Bavaro to the ND list. </P>


Add Jumbo Elliott, Toomer, Ali Haji-Shiekand Manningham to the Michigan list.</P>Well I was looking at 1st round picks only and we didn't draft Rolle at all (not sure whether Shiek was a draft choice of ours) Make the call based solely on our decisions to draft with the #1 pick.

jmike
04-04-2012, 11:02 PM
Now for those 5 schools, here's my rank on which ones have produced the greatest players for us.</p>


1. Michigan StateWR Mark Ingram, LB Carl Banks, LB Brad Van Pelt</p>


2. MiamiS Kenny Phillips, DT William Joseph, TE Jeremy Shockey</p>


3. ColoradoDB Mark Haynes, DT Troy Archer, LB Jerry Hillebrand</p>


4. Notre DameT Luke Pettigout, TE Derrick Brown, (Ugh!), DL Eric Dorsey</p>


5. MichiganRB Tyrone Wheatley (did nothing for us), RB Jarrod Bunch, RB Butch Woolfolk</p>


Thoughts on my ranking?</p>Yea, stop drafting Michigan RBs.

jomo
04-04-2012, 11:15 PM
Now for those 5 schools, here's my rank on which ones have produced the greatest players for us.</P>


1. Michigan StateWR Mark Ingram, LB Carl Banks, LB Brad Van Pelt</P>


2. MiamiS Kenny Phillips, DT William Joseph, TE Jeremy Shockey</P>


3. ColoradoDB Mark Haynes, DT Troy Archer, LB Jerry Hillebrand</P>


4. Notre DameT Luke Pettigout, TE Derrick Brown, (Ugh!), DL Eric Dorsey</P>


5. MichiganRB Tyrone Wheatley (did nothing for us), RB Jarrod Bunch, RB Butch Woolfolk</P>


Thoughts on my ranking?</P>Yea, stop drafting Michigan RBs.
You are so insightful [;)]

GMENAGAIN
04-04-2012, 11:43 PM
Now for those 5 schools, here's my rank on which ones have produced the greatest players for us.</P>


1. Michigan StateWR Mark Ingram, LB Carl Banks, LB Brad Van Pelt</P>


2. MiamiS Kenny Phillips, DT William Joseph, TE Jeremy Shockey</P>


3. ColoradoDB Mark Haynes, DT Troy Archer, LB Jerry Hillebrand</P>


4. Notre DameT Luke Pettigout, TE Derrick Brown, (Ugh!), DL Eric Dorsey</P>


5. MichiganRB Tyrone Wheatley (did nothing for us), RB Jarrod Bunch, RB Butch Woolfolk</P>


Thoughts on my ranking?</P>


</P>


Add Rolle to the Miami list.</P>


Add Tuck and Bavaro to the ND list. </P>


Add Jumbo Elliott, Toomer, Ali Haji-Shiekand Manningham to the Michigan list.</P>


Well I was looking at 1st round picks only and we didn't draft Rolle at all (not sure whether Shiek was a draft choice of ours) Make the call based solely on our decisions to draft with the #1 pick.</P>


Gotcha . . . . I was too lazy to read the entire thread . . . . just assumed that you were just listing players from these schools regardless of draft position.</P>


Should have known that you wouldn't have missed Tuck, jomo [;)]</P>

jomo
04-05-2012, 06:58 PM
Now for those 5 schools, here's my rank on which ones have produced the greatest players for us.</P>


1. Michigan StateWR Mark Ingram, LB Carl Banks, LB Brad Van Pelt</P>


2. MiamiS Kenny Phillips, DT William Joseph, TE Jeremy Shockey</P>


3. ColoradoDB Mark Haynes, DT Troy Archer, LB Jerry Hillebrand</P>


4. Notre DameT Luke Pettigout, TE Derrick Brown, (Ugh!), DL Eric Dorsey</P>


5. MichiganRB Tyrone Wheatley (did nothing for us), RB Jarrod Bunch, RB Butch Woolfolk</P>


Thoughts on my ranking?</P>


</P>


Add Rolle to the Miami list.</P>


Add Tuck and Bavaro to the ND list. </P>


Add Jumbo Elliott, Toomer, Ali Haji-Shiekand Manningham to the Michigan list.</P>


Well I was looking at 1st round picks only and we didn't draft Rolle at all (not sure whether Shiek was a draft choice of ours) Make the call based solely on our decisions to draft with the #1 pick.</P>


Gotcha . . . . I was too lazy to read the entire thread . . . . just assumed that you were just listing players from these schools regardless of draft position.</P>


Should have known that you wouldn't have missed Tuck, jomo [;)]</P>No worries, I havebeen known to respond before reading the whole thread, kinda like most people here. [;)]

YATittle1962
04-07-2012, 02:08 PM
while looking for some table cloths for this weekends festivities my wife found a box with newspapers in it from the 1990 season playoff run.

so amazing to read

I'll post some pics of them later

immediately thought of you guys and had to share

zimonami
04-07-2012, 04:52 PM
while looking for some table cloths for this weekends festivities my wife found a box with newspapers in it from the 1990 season playoff run.

so amazing to read

I'll post some pics of them later

immediately thought of you guys and had to share
Cool! Looking forward to it. What I enjoyed most about that run was the job Hoss and the offense did. The perfect situation for the vet, OJ, to step up and keep Hoss relaxed and focused. Of course the Defense, under Belichick, did a brilliant job against Buffalo in the SB.

keyofgmen
04-07-2012, 05:36 PM
while looking for some table cloths for this weekends festivities my wife found a box with newspapers in it from the 1990 season playoff run.

so amazing to read

I'll post some pics of them later

immediately thought of you guys and had to share

I have a treasure trove also YA...here are a couple of examples...

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/picshelp/IMG_1255.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/picshelp/IMG_1256.jpg

jomo
04-07-2012, 07:30 PM
while looking for some table cloths for this weekends festivities my wife found a box with newspapers in it from the 1990 season playoff run. so amazing to read I'll post some pics of them later immediately thought of you guys and had to share I have a treasure trove also YA...here are a couple of examples... http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/picshelp/IMG_1255.jpg http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/picshelp/IMG_1256.jpgThanks for brightening our holiday week-end YA.</P>


That 1990 team had a treasure trove of great coaches. In fact there were 6 NFL head coaches on that staff! Name them........</P>

zimonami
04-07-2012, 07:56 PM
while looking for some table cloths for this weekends festivities my wife found a box with newspapers in it from the 1990 season playoff run. so amazing to read I'll post some pics of them later immediately thought of you guys and had to share I have a treasure trove also YA...here are a couple of examples... http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/picshelp/IMG_1255.jpg http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/picshelp/IMG_1256.jpgThanks for brightening our holiday week-end YA.</P>


That 1990 team had a treasure trove of great coaches. In fact there were 6 NFL head coaches on that staff! Name them........</P>
Parcell's '90 crew...
Well, Earhardt was a NE head coach before '90, and never again after '90
After '90 there was Belichick, Coughlin, Romeo Crennell, and even Al Groh had a year as Jets HC.

GMENAGAIN
04-07-2012, 08:04 PM
while looking for some table cloths for this weekends festivities my wife found a box with newspapers in it from the 1990 season playoff run. so amazing to read I'll post some pics of them later immediately thought of you guys and had to share I have a treasure trove also YA...here are a couple of examples... http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/picshelp/IMG_1255.jpg http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/picshelp/IMG_1256.jpg</P>


Great stuff!</P>

jomo
04-07-2012, 10:57 PM
That 1990 team had a treasure trove of great coaches. In fact there were 6 NFL head coaches on that staff! Name them........</P> Parcell's '90 crew... Well, Earhardt was a NE head coach before '90, and never again after '90 After '90 there was Belichick, Coughlin, Romeo Crennell, and even Al Groh had a year as Jets HC.That's it Zim. Has there ever been a coaching crew with 6 people who either were or would be an NFL head coach? Hard to think that's happened twice.

jomo
04-08-2012, 12:29 AM
That 1990 team had two player from Penn St., Notre Dame and West Virginia. There was one from each school who everyone recognizes. Matt Bahr from PSU, Mark Bavaro from ND and Jeff Hostettler from WVU. Who were the lesser known players from these 3 schools on that team?

jmike
04-08-2012, 01:17 AM
Now for those 5 schools, here's my rank on which ones have produced the greatest players for us.</p>


1. Michigan StateWR Mark Ingram, LB Carl Banks, LB Brad Van Pelt</p>


2. MiamiS Kenny Phillips, DT William Joseph, TE Jeremy Shockey</p>


3. ColoradoDB Mark Haynes, DT Troy Archer, LB Jerry Hillebrand</p>


4. Notre DameT Luke Pettigout, TE Derrick Brown, (Ugh!), DL Eric Dorsey</p>


5. MichiganRB Tyrone Wheatley (did nothing for us), RB Jarrod Bunch, RB Butch Woolfolk</p>


Thoughts on my ranking?</p>Yea, stop drafting Michigan RBs.
You are so insightful [;)]

Well you would think that somebody in the NFL would catch up on that by now. Here are all the Michigan RBs drafted from Michigan since Woolfolk:

1982
Butch Woolfolk
Stanley Edwards

1983
Lawrence Ricks

1987
Bob Perryman
Thomas Wilcher

1988
Jaime Morris

1990
Leroy Hoard

1991
Jarrod Bunch
Jon Vaughn
Tony Boles

1995
Tyrone Wheakley

1996
Tim Biakabutuka

1998
Chris Floyd
Chris Howard

2001
Anthony Thomas

2003
BJ Askew (I always thought that just resulted in a sore neck)

2004
Chris Perry

2008
Mike Hart

You think it is time to stop going to that well yet?

jmike
04-08-2012, 01:23 AM
Mike Fox WVU.

Dorsey, Rehdar(or something like that he was a back up center as I recall) and Duerson from ND.

Bob Mrosko from Penn State.

Hostetler started at PSU before he transfered to he covers both actually.

jmike
04-08-2012, 01:27 AM
On a related note, that team also had 2 players who attended Towson State, can you name them?

jomo
04-08-2012, 10:05 AM
Mike Fox WVU.

Dorsey, Rehdar(or something like that he was a back up center as I recall) and Duerson from ND.

Bob Mrosko from Penn State.

Hostetler started at PSU before he transfered to he covers both actually.
That's it JM. I didn't even remember Duerson on that team. When I saw he was AND was also from ND I thought of this post.

jomo
04-08-2012, 10:08 AM
On a related note, that team also had 2 players who attended Towson State, can you name them?
I am certain that Landeta was one of them and pretty sure that Megget was the other.

jmike
04-08-2012, 10:23 AM
On a related note, that team also had 2 players who attended Towson State, can you name them?
I am certain that Landeta was one of them and pretty sure that Megget was the other.Well done sir.

That team also had two former 1st round picks from Michigan State, who are they?

jomo
04-08-2012, 10:52 AM
On a related note, that team also had 2 players who attended Towson State, can you name them?
I am certain that Landeta was one of them and pretty sure that Megget was the other.Well done sir.

That team also had two former 1st round picks from Michigan State, who are they?
Carl Banks and.........

GMENAGAIN
04-08-2012, 11:30 AM
On a related note, that team also had 2 players who attended Towson State, can you name them?
I am certain that Landeta was one of them and pretty sure that Megget was the other.Well done sir.

That team also had two former 1st round picks from Michigan State, who are they?
Carl Banks and.........

Mark Ingram

jmike
04-09-2012, 02:04 AM
On a related note, that team also had 2 players who attended Towson State, can you name them?
I am certain that Landeta was one of them and pretty sure that Megget was the other.Well done sir.

That team also had two former 1st round picks from Michigan State, who are they?
Carl Banks and.........

Mark IngramYep

Keeping in theme that team also had 2 players each from LSU, Ohio State, Michigan and little know school in LA called NW State, who were they?

jmike
04-09-2012, 02:04 AM
On a related note, that team also had 2 players who attended Towson State, can you name them?
I am certain that Landeta was one of them and pretty sure that Megget was the other.Well done sir.

That team also had two former 1st round picks from Michigan State, who are they?
Carl Banks and.........

Mark IngramYep

Keeping in theme that team also had 2 players each from LSU, Ohio State, Michigan and little know school in LA called NW State, who were they?

titwio
04-09-2012, 02:49 AM
Odessa Turner, Gary Reasons NW State...Pepper Johnson Ohio St....Bobby Abrams, Jarrod Bunch Michigan...Leonard Marshall, Greg Jackson LSU.

Don't know the last Ohio St.

jmike
04-09-2012, 09:06 AM
Odessa Turner, Gary Reasons NW Stateyep
...Pepper Johnson Ohio Stthat is half
....Bobby Abrams, Jarrod Bunch MichiganBunch was their 1st round pick following the super bowl, Abrams is right who is the other?
...Leonard Marshall, Greg Jackson LSU.

Don't know the last Ohio St.yep

jomo
04-09-2012, 02:17 PM
Odessa Turner, Gary Reasons NW Stateyep
...Pepper Johnson Ohio Stthat is half
....Bobby Abrams, Jarrod Bunch MichiganBunch was their 1st round pick following the super bowl, Abrams is right who is the other?
...Leonard Marshall, Greg Jackson LSU.

Don't know the last Ohio St.yepAmani had not arrived on the scene yet so the other Michigan player has to be Bobby Abrams.

SEC105
04-09-2012, 05:46 PM
Speaking of Michigan running backs.....which one is this?</P>


http://media.mlive.com/thediag/photo/tyrone-wheatley-michiganjpg-1885fa1bce9ffa40_large.jpg</P>


Z</P>

titwio
04-09-2012, 05:49 PM
Tyrone Wheatley

titwio
04-09-2012, 05:57 PM
Bunch was their 1st round pick following the super bowl, Abrams is right who is the other?

Jumbo Elliot...And William Roberts was the other Ohio St.

SEC105
04-09-2012, 06:00 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>

jomo
04-09-2012, 06:14 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.

SEC105
04-09-2012, 06:24 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</P>


Z</P>

SEC105
04-09-2012, 06:27 PM
Not a RB.....but who is this Michigan player who had a long NFL career including a short stinit with Giants at the end of his career. [mid seventies] played safety in NFL but played QB and DB in college</P>


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/volk2.jpg</P>


Z</P>

jomo
04-09-2012, 06:28 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year"***** which would be answered with****** "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?"** lol</P>


Z</P>Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.

SEC105
04-09-2012, 06:46 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</P>


Z</P>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</P>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</P>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</P>


Z</P>

allentown PA
04-09-2012, 07:54 PM
In the last 30 years which 2 players from Notre Dame have the giants drafted in the first round?

titwio
04-09-2012, 07:59 PM
I know Eric Dorsey was one of them.

titwio
04-09-2012, 08:02 PM
I know Eric Dorsey was one of them.

Oh...And Luke Petitgout was the other.

allentown PA
04-09-2012, 08:07 PM
I know Eric Dorsey was one of them.

Oh...And Luke Petitgout was the other.

Oh ****...great job titwio..I forgot about Luke...and yes Dorsey is one of them but there is still one more Notre Dame alum they took in the first round...sorry I made a mistake...its 3 players they have drafted from ND in the first round.

titwio
04-09-2012, 08:21 PM
TE Derek Brown...I barely remember that guy.

allentown PA
04-09-2012, 08:23 PM
TE Derek Brown...I barely remember that guy.

good job that's it...yea he was a wasted 1st round pick to say the least.

allentown PA
04-09-2012, 10:47 PM
In the last 30 years what 2 players have the giants drafted in the first round from the university of Indiana?

zimonami
04-09-2012, 11:10 PM
In the last 30 years what 2 players have the giants drafted in the first round from the university of Indiana?
one was a big waste... Thomas Lewis

jomo
04-09-2012, 11:48 PM
In the last 30 years what 2 players have the giants drafted in the first round from the university of Indiana? one was a big waste... Thomas LewisThe other was a less than stellar tackle Eric Moore.

allentown PA
04-09-2012, 11:48 PM
In the last 30 years what 2 players have the giants drafted in the first round from the university of Indiana? one was a big waste... Thomas LewisThe other was a less than stellar tackle Eric Moore.

good work guys..eric more and thomas lewis it was.

allentown PA
04-09-2012, 11:52 PM
Which leads me to my next bit of draft trivia...Eric moore was the Giants 1st round pick in 1988, they also took a linemen from the big ten in the 2nd round that year... and in the 1989 draft they took an offensive linemen in the first two rounds from the big ten as well...can you name the other 3 linemen and where they went to college?

titwio
04-10-2012, 12:01 AM
Jumbo- Michigan...Luke Petitgout- ND.

Isn't that only two?

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 12:07 AM
Jumbo- Michigan...Luke Petitgout- ND.

Isn't that only two?

jumbo is one and he did go to michigan but Luke wasnt drafted until 1999.

titwio
04-10-2012, 12:12 AM
Jumbo- Michigan...Luke Petitgout- ND.

Isn't that only two?

jumbo is one and he did go to michigan but Luke wasnt drafted until 1999.

oops...thought you said 99.

Brian Williams- Minny...Bob Kratch -Iowa?

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 12:12 AM
Jumbo- Michigan...Luke Petitgout- ND.

Isn't that only two?

jumbo is one and he did go to michigan but Luke wasnt drafted until 1999.

oops...thought you said 99.

Brian Williams- Minny...Bob Kratch -Iowa?

wow good work..cant believe someone got that and the schools too.

titwio
04-10-2012, 12:16 AM
I got a question...Sticking to the 1990's team. Don't know how many here are familiar with the All Madden Teams but I watched them all the time as a kid.

Question is...In 1990 four Giants made the All Madden Team. Three on special teams and one O-lineman.

Can you name them? (4 total)

jmike
04-10-2012, 12:17 AM
Bunch was their 1st round pick following the super bowl, Abrams is right who is the other?

Jumbo Elliot...And William Roberts was the other Ohio St.yep

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 12:18 AM
I got a question...Sticking to the 1990's team. Don't know how many here are familiar with the All Madden Teams but I watched them all the time as a kid.

Question is...In 1990 four Giants made the All Madden Team. 3 on ST's and 1 OL.

Can you name them?

jumbo,landenta,megget,thomson

titwio
04-10-2012, 12:19 AM
I got a question...Sticking to the 1990's team. Don't know how many here are familiar with the All Madden Teams but I watched them all the time as a kid.

Question is...In 1990 four Giants made the All Madden Team. 3 on ST's and 1 OL.

Can you name them?

jumbo,landenta,megget,thomson

Damn that was fast...Nice.

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 12:20 AM
I got a question...Sticking to the 1990's team. Don't know how many here are familiar with the All Madden Teams but I watched them all the time as a kid.

Question is...In 1990 four Giants made the All Madden Team. 3 on ST's and 1 OL.

Can you name them?

jumbo,landenta,megget,thomson

Damn that was fast...Nice.

I was looking at our draft history the 91 draft had to be the worst..the year we took bunch in the 1st..a lot of duds in there imo.

jmike
04-10-2012, 12:26 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</p>


Z</p>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 12:30 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year"***** which would be answered with****** "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?"** lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!!** lol*** jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if he*was in the right offensive system** just my opinion</p>


Z</p>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree.* He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch.* He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back.* The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all.* I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.


Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 12:31 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year"***** which would be answered with****** "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?"** lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!!** lol*** jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if he*was in the right offensive system** just my opinion</p>


Z</p>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree.* He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch.* He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back.* The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all.* I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.


Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.

jomo
04-10-2012, 12:32 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</P>


Z</P>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</P>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</P>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</P>


Z</P>


I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
lol, yes he was good in collegeand you've got him pegged perfectly. I also know he was a guy whe didn't have the fire in his stomach to be the best player at the next level. I've read many stories about his losing interest as soon as he signed that big contract. Some guy just need to compete and improve themselves every day. Others are simply like Ron Dayne.</P>


PS Cedric Jones may not beour worst ever first round pick but he belongs in the discussion.</P>

jmike
04-10-2012, 12:34 AM
I got a question...Sticking to the 1990's team. Don't know how many here are familiar with the All Madden Teams but I watched them all the time as a kid.

Question is...In 1990 four Giants made the All Madden Team. 3 on ST's and 1 OL.

Can you name them?

jumbo,landenta,megget,thomson

Damn that was fast...Nice.

I was looking at our draft history the 91 draft had to be the worst..the year we took bunch in the 1st..a lot of duds in there imo.IDK about that, Ted Popson went on to have a good long career. Ed McCaffrey was an excellent WR. Corey Miller was a good LBer for a while, as much as can be expected for a 6th round LBer. Clarence Jones played in the NFL for a while, even started a few years as I recall. Even Bunch was an excellent FB until he was hurt. Can't complain about the draft, complain about the personnel decisions to let the best players in it go elsewhere.

jomo
04-10-2012, 12:36 AM
I got a question...Sticking to the 1990's team. Don't know how many here are familiar with the All Madden Teams but I watched them all the time as a kid. Question is...In 1990 four Giants made the All Madden Team. 3 on ST's and 1 OL. Can you name them? jumbo,landenta,megget,thomson Damn that was fast...Nice. I was looking at our draft history the 91 draft had to be the worst..the year we took bunch in the 1st..a lot of duds in there imo.IDK about that, Ted Popson went on to have a good long career. Ed McCaffrey was an excellent WR. Corey Miller was a good LBer for a while, as much as can be expected for a 6th round LBer. Clarence Jones played in the NFL for a while, even started a few years as I recall. Even Bunch was an excellent FB until he was hurt. Can't complain about the draft, complain about the personnel decisions to let the best players in it go elsewhere.
I spent some time on the golf course with Ed McCaffreylast yearin Colorado. He is a really nice guy who looks like he could suit up tomorrow.

jmike
04-10-2012, 12:39 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</p>


Z</p>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.


Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.Better pick, yes, but I said decision, he wasn't a better decision. Derek Brown by all indications to most people looked like a great TE coming out of ND, he busted, but they needed a TE and he looked like he would be a good one. I can't fault the decision to take him just the end result. I blind deaf dead man could tell Dayne was going to suck and the reality is he was about 10,000,000 times better than I expected him to be. My bet was he would finish his career with a YPA of below 2 and wouldn't break 300 yards rushing in a season, or career really.

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 12:41 AM
I got a question...Sticking to the 1990's team. Don't know how many here are familiar with the All Madden Teams but I watched them all the time as a kid.

Question is...In 1990 four Giants made the All Madden Team. 3 on ST's and 1 OL.

Can you name them?

jumbo,landenta,megget,thomson

Damn that was fast...Nice.

I was looking at our draft history the 91 draft had to be the worst..the year we took bunch in the 1st..a lot of duds in there imo.IDK about that, Ted Popson went on to have a good long career.* Ed McCaffrey was an excellent WR.* Corey Miller was a good LBer for a while, as much as can be expected for a 6th round LBer.* Clarence Jones played in the NFL for a while, even started a few years as I recall.* Even Bunch was an excellent FB until he was hurt.* Can't complain about the draft, complain about the personnel decisions to let the best players in it go elsewhere.


Mcaffrey was an excellent WR for denver...average at best with us...corety miller was okay imo idk about good...I agree about Bunch but injuries are apart of the game and he never lived up imo...I guess it's a matter of opinion but u make good points...check out the 95 draft that may have been the worst..other than charles Way..nothing.

jomo
04-10-2012, 12:41 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</P>


Z</P>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</P>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</P>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</P>


Z</P>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.Better pick, yes, but I said decision, he wasn't a better decision. Derek Brown by all indications to most people looked like a great TE coming out of ND, he busted, but they needed a TE and he looked like he would be a good one. I can't fault the decision to take him just the end result. I blind deaf dead man could tell Dayne was going to suck and the reality is he was about 10,000,000 times better than I expected him to be. My bet was he would finish his career with a YPA of below 2 and wouldn't break 300 yards rushing in a season, or career really.
OK then Cedric Brown was a terrible decision.

jmike
04-10-2012, 12:57 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</p>


Z</p>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.Better pick, yes, but I said decision, he wasn't a better decision. Derek Brown by all indications to most people looked like a great TE coming out of ND, he busted, but they needed a TE and he looked like he would be a good one. I can't fault the decision to take him just the end result. I blind deaf dead man could tell Dayne was going to suck and the reality is he was about 10,000,000 times better than I expected him to be. My bet was he would finish his career with a YPA of below 2 and wouldn't break 300 yards rushing in a season, or career really.
OK then Cedric Brown was a terrible decision.Cedric Jones was a poor decision. Might rank 3rd for me behind the other two. He was generally considered the next best DE available, but was picked too high and it was a forced pick. They had 4 guys they wanted and they picked 5th and had no plan B because they didn't expect all 4 to be taken before them. They were unprepared, but the FO learned a hard lesson that day and it cause some positive changes that have eventually lead to one of the better prepared teams come draft time. I think that was a turning point for them and it took a few seasons but they have been getting steadily better since.

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 02:03 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year"***** which would be answered with****** "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?"** lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!!** lol*** jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if he*was in the right offensive system** just my opinion</p>


Z</p>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree.* He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch.* He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back.* The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all.* I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.Better pick, yes, but I said decision, he wasn't a better decision.* Derek Brown by all indications to most people looked like a great TE coming out of ND, he busted, but they needed a TE and he looked like he would be a good one.* I can't fault the decision to take him just the end result.* I blind deaf dead man could tell Dayne was going to suck and the reality is he was about 10,000,000 times better than I expected him to be.* My bet was he would finish his career with a YPA of below 2 and wouldn't break 300 yards rushing in a season, or career really.
OK then Cedric Brown was a terrible decision.Cedric Jones was a poor decision.* Might rank 3rd for me behind the other two.* He was generally considered the next best DE available, but was picked too high and it was a forced pick.* They had 4 guys they wanted and they picked 5th and had no plan B because they didn't expect all 4 to be taken before them.* They were unprepared, but the FO learned a hard lesson that day and it cause some positive changes that have eventually lead to one of the better prepared teams come draft time.* I think that was a turning point for them and it took a few seasons but they have been getting steadily better since.


wanted Ogden that year...there was nobody left for us.

firstgamein49
04-10-2012, 03:36 PM
All you guys hating on Dayne and Lewis and Brown, etc., did any of you ever hear of Rocky Thompson?

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 04:44 PM
All you guys hating on Dayne and Lewis and Brown, etc., did any of you ever hear of Rocky Thompson?


heard of him..can't be worse than Lewis and ced jones was the 5th overall pick..thompson was 18th

firstgamein49
04-10-2012, 04:52 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 04:53 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!


lol..he sounds bad..he was before my time but Ive heard only bad things about him.

firstgamein49
04-10-2012, 05:10 PM
Were you part of the post re: the drought, 56-whatever? I just posed again on that to Foxie about the great defense that we had. i still think that the '58 team was the greatest D in NFL histoire (a little French lingo there).

zimonami
04-10-2012, 05:12 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!


lol..he sounds bad..he was before my time but Ive heard only bad things about him.
I was at the 1971 preseason game at Yale Bowl. Very first kickoff... very first touch by Rocky... he returned it for a TD.
The crowd roared, and we were all excited by the prospects.
Hahahahahahahahahaha... the joke was on all of us... a dismal flop.

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 05:12 PM
Were you part of the post re: the drought, 56-whatever? I just posed again on that to Foxie about the great defense that we had. i still think that the '58 team was the greatest D in NFL histoire (a little French lingo there).


i posted on that thread..it was a very good one..giants fans from my generation are spoiled..im 31 there was a stretch of 3 years where this team was down in my lifetime thats it.

SEC105
04-10-2012, 05:32 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!
lol..he sounds bad..he was before my time but Ive heard only bad things about him. I was at the 1971 preseason game at Yale Bowl. Very first kickoff... very first touch by Rocky... he returned it for a TD. The crowd roared, and we were all excited by the prospects. Hahahahahahahahahaha... the joke was on all of us... a dismal flop.</P>


and just to be fair to Rocky.....he did take one all the back early in the 1971 regular season.....gotta give credit where credit is do lol [;)]</P>


http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/477/390/gal_nfl_thompson_display_image.jpg?1319722799</P>


Z</P>

SEC105
04-10-2012, 05:44 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</P>


Z</P>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</P>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</P>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</P>


Z</P>


I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
</P>


We use to have a poster named Davidkan on here up until 2 years or so ago. Very knowledgeable , in fact a football coach , who had some very good theories on just what happened to Dayne and why he did notpan out. Can't recall all that was said but much of it had to do with fact what kind of system a RB plays in. Remember I said he could have been a "decent" NFL back in the right system. Dayne did have a few goodgames after he left the Giants and played as a backup for others just my opinion also did notFassell [?]try to turn him into a short yardage back near the end of his Giant career</P>


My thought is the Giants were looking for the Earl Campbell type of play from R.D.....and that was just not his style</P>


Z</P>

SEC105
04-10-2012, 05:48 PM
Not a RB.....but who is this Michigan player who had a long NFL career including a short stinit with Giants at the end of his career. [mid seventies] played safety in NFL but played QB and DB in college</P>


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/volk2.jpg</P>


Z</P>


</P>


No guesses on who this Michigan player is...I believe he played in the Super Bowl for the BaltimoreColts as a safety.....but he was a short term Giant at the end of career</P>


Z</P>

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 05:50 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year"***** which would be answered with****** "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?"** lol</P>


Z</P>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</P>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!!** lol*** jk Jomo</P>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if he*was in the right offensive system** just my opinion</P>


Z</P>


I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree.* He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch.* He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back.* The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all.* I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
</P>


We use to have a poster named Davidkan on here up until 2 years or so ago. Very knowledgeable , in fact a football coach , who had some very good theories on just what happened to Dayne and why he did not*pan out. Can't recall all that was said but much of it had to do with fact what kind of system a RB plays in. Remember I said he could have been a "decent" NFL back in the right system. Dayne did have a few good*games after he left the Giants and played as a backup for others** just my opinion***** also did not*Fassell [?]*try to turn him into a short yardage back near the end of his Giant career</P>


My thought is the Giants were looking for the Earl Campbell type of play from R.D.....and that was just not his style</P>


Z</P>

I agree with you SEC there are some backs that fit better into a certain system but I can't think of a system that would fit Dayne...big back who thought he could run outside like he did in college.

SEC105
04-10-2012, 05:50 PM
Not a RB.....but who is this Michigan player who had a long NFL career including a short stinit with Giants at the end of his career. [mid seventies] played safety in NFL but played QB and DB in college</P>


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/volk2.jpg</P>


Z</P>


</P>


No guesses on who this Michigan player is...I believe he played in the Super Bowl for the BaltimoreColts as a safety.....but he was a short term Giant at the end of career</P>


Z</P>

SEC105
04-10-2012, 05:58 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</P>


Z</P>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</P>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</P>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</P>


Z</P>


I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
</P>


We use to have a poster named Davidkan on here up until 2 years or so ago. Very knowledgeable , in fact a football coach , who had some very good theories on just what happened to Dayne and why he did notpan out. Can't recall all that was said but much of it had to do with fact what kind of system a RB plays in. Remember I said he could have been a "decent" NFL back in the right system. Dayne did have a few goodgames after he left the Giants and played as a backup for others just my opinion also did notFassell [?]try to turn him into a short yardage back near the end of his Giant career</P>


My thought is the Giants were looking for the Earl Campbell type of play from R.D.....and that was just not his style</P>


Z</P>


I agree with you SEC there are some backs that fit better into a certain system but I can't think of a system that would fit Dayne...big back who thought he could run outside like he did in college.</P>


Well A.T. he had his moment[s] in Denver , that was one system that comes to mind. Of course the Broncos were always loaded at RB in those days.....I'll have to look back at other teams he played for.............like Wisconsin [;)]</P>

jmike
04-10-2012, 07:28 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!


lol..he sounds bad..he was before my time but Ive heard only bad things about him.
I was at the 1971 preseason game at Yale Bowl. Very first kickoff... very first touch by Rocky... he returned it for a TD.
The crowd roared, and we were all excited by the prospects.
Hahahahahahahahahaha... the joke was on all of us... a dismal flop.Can you name another Giants 1st round pick that scored a TD the 1st time he touched the ball in a Giants uniform?

jmike
04-10-2012, 07:36 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</p>


Z</p>


I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
</p>


We use to have a poster named Davidkan on here up until 2 years or so ago. Very knowledgeable , in fact a football coach , who had some very good theories on just what happened to Dayne and why he did notpan out. Can't recall all that was said but much of it had to do with fact what kind of system a RB plays in. Remember I said he could have been a "decent" NFL back in the right system. Dayne did have a few goodgames after he left the Giants and played as a backup for others just my opinion also did notFassell [?]try to turn him into a short yardage back near the end of his Giant career</p>


My thought is the Giants were looking for the Earl Campbell type of play from R.D.....and that was just not his style</p>


Z</p>I saw a lot of him in college and in the NFL. He happened to play during a time that I had time to watch College ball and usually watched the big 10 when I did. Ron Dayne's style was definitely not Earl Campbell. The problem was he didn't have any style. He had not a single skill of an NFL RB. Not the feet, hands, hips, vision, quickness, speed, power, heart, stiff arm, he wasn't even a "high motor guy." He may have had a bunch of theories, but honestly is he felt Dayne could be a good NFL back he was flat wrong. He was a good soldier at least here, didn't whine like Wheakly

NYGRealityCheck
04-10-2012, 07:36 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!


lol..he sounds bad..he was before my time but Ive heard only bad things about him.
I was at the 1971 preseason game at Yale Bowl. Very first kickoff... very first touch by Rocky... he returned it for a TD.
The crowd roared, and we were all excited by the prospects.
Hahahahahahahahahaha... the joke was on all of us... a dismal flop.Can you name another Giants 1st round pick that scored a TD the 1st time he touched the ball in a Giants uniform?


Offense or Defense?
Defense- recent memory...
Aaron Ross. His first INT against the Jets was returned for a TD...

titwio
04-10-2012, 07:38 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!


lol..he sounds bad..he was before my time but Ive heard only bad things about him.
I was at the 1971 preseason game at Yale Bowl. Very first kickoff... very first touch by Rocky... he returned it for a TD.
The crowd roared, and we were all excited by the prospects.
Hahahahahahahahahaha... the joke was on all of us... a dismal flop.Can you name another Giants 1st round pick that scored a TD the 1st time he touched the ball in a Giants uniform?


Was it Hakeem Nicks in preseason?

I actually feel like I know this but can't really remember.

jmike
04-10-2012, 07:40 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</p>


Z</p>


I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
</p>


We use to have a poster named Davidkan on here up until 2 years or so ago. Very knowledgeable , in fact a football coach , who had some very good theories on just what happened to Dayne and why he did notpan out. Can't recall all that was said but much of it had to do with fact what kind of system a RB plays in. Remember I said he could have been a "decent" NFL back in the right system. Dayne did have a few goodgames after he left the Giants and played as a backup for others just my opinion also did notFassell [?]try to turn him into a short yardage back near the end of his Giant career</p>


My thought is the Giants were looking for the Earl Campbell type of play from R.D.....and that was just not his style</p>


Z</p>


I agree with you SEC there are some backs that fit better into a certain system but I can't think of a system that would fit Dayne...big back who thought he could run outside like he did in college.</p>


Well A.T. he had his moment[s] in Denver , that was one system that comes to mind. Of course the Broncos were always loaded at RB in those days.....I'll have to look back at other teams he played for.............like Wisconsin [;)]</p>Yes, he could be a good back if a team had an offensive line that could open holes big enough to to clear the blast radius of a ballistic nuclear missile circa 1987. But so could Lt. Dan from Forrest Gump.

jmike
04-10-2012, 07:42 PM
IDK, Nicks and Ross may have also done it, but wasn't the player I was thinking of, I am sure there are a few.

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 07:43 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!


lol..he sounds bad..he was before my time but Ive heard only bad things about him.
I was at the 1971 preseason game at Yale Bowl. Very first kickoff... very first touch by Rocky... he returned it for a TD.
The crowd roared, and we were all excited by the prospects.
Hahahahahahahahahaha... the joke was on all of us... a dismal flop.Can you name another Giants 1st round pick that scored a TD the 1st time he touched the ball in a Giants uniform?


was is it hampton?

titwio
04-10-2012, 07:44 PM
was is it hampton?

This was my next guess.

jmike
04-10-2012, 07:45 PM
He was supposed to be a RB. Mostly used as a K/P returner. He would stand back at the appropriate depth, hands clasped behind his back, watch the ball, mostly catch it, and I don't believe EVER busted one. Because of the pick, he was actually booed when he went in to receive a K/P!


lol..he sounds bad..he was before my time but Ive heard only bad things about him.
I was at the 1971 preseason game at Yale Bowl. Very first kickoff... very first touch by Rocky... he returned it for a TD.
The crowd roared, and we were all excited by the prospects.
Hahahahahahahahahaha... the joke was on all of us... a dismal flop.Can you name another Giants 1st round pick that scored a TD the 1st time he touched the ball in a Giants uniform?


was is it hampton?Yep, He was who I was thinking of.

zimonami
04-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Not a RB.....but who is this Michigan player who had a long NFL career including a short stinit with Giants at the end of* his career. [mid seventies]****** played safety in NFL but played QB and DB in college</P>


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/volk2.jpg</P>


Z</P>


</P>


No guesses on who this Michigan player is...I believe he played in the Super Bowl for the Baltimore*Colts as a safety.....but he was a short term Giant at the end of career</P>


Z</P>
How about Rick Volk... All Pro, and played one year ( I think his last) with us.

jmike
04-10-2012, 08:44 PM
Not a RB.....but who is this Michigan player who had a long NFL career including a short stinit with Giants at the end of his career. [mid seventies] played safety in NFL but played QB and DB in college</p>


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/volk2.jpg</p>


Z</p>


</p>


No guesses on who this Michigan player is...I believe he played in the Super Bowl for the BaltimoreColts as a safety.....but he was a short term Giant at the end of career</p>


Z</p>
How about Rick Volk... All Pro, and played one year ( I think his last) with us.He looks like he is slipping on a banana peel.

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 09:05 PM
In 1986 we had four 2nd round picks can you name them?

jomo
04-10-2012, 09:20 PM
In 1986 we had four 2nd round picks can you name them?I can give you 2 easy ones: CB Mark Collins and LB Pepper Johnson.

jmike
04-10-2012, 09:25 PM
In 1986 we had four 2nd round picks can you name them?I can give you 2 easy ones: CB Mark Collins and LB Pepper Johnson.Wasn't one of the a safety, Lasker or something like that?

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 09:27 PM
In 1986 we had four 2nd round picks can you name them?I can give you 2 easy ones: CB Mark Collins and LB Pepper Johnson.

yea those were 2 of them

allentown PA
04-10-2012, 09:27 PM
In 1986 we had four 2nd round picks can you name them?I can give you 2 easy ones: CB Mark Collins and LB Pepper Johnson.Wasn't one of the a safety, Lasker or something like that?


yea that was the hardest one to get..there is one more still.

jomo
04-11-2012, 08:41 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</P>


Z</P>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</P>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</P>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</P>


Z</P>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.Better pick, yes, but I said decision, he wasn't a better decision. Derek Brown by all indications to most people looked like a great TE coming out of ND, he busted, but they needed a TE and he looked like he would be a good one. I can't fault the decision to take him just the end result. I blind deaf dead man could tell Dayne was going to suck and the reality is he was about 10,000,000 times better than I expected him to be. My bet was he would finish his career with a YPA of below 2 and wouldn't break 300 yards rushing in a season, or career really.
OK then Cedric Brown was a terrible decision.Cedric Jones was a poor decision. Might rank 3rd for me behind the other two. He was generally considered the next best DE available, but was picked too high and it was a forced pick. They had 4 guys they wanted and they picked 5th and had no plan B because they didn't expect all 4 to be taken before them. They were unprepared, but the FO learned a hard lesson that day and it cause some positive changes that have eventually lead to one of the better prepared teams come draft time. I think that was a turning point for them and it took a few seasons but they have been getting steadily better since.
I went back and revisited that draft classfrom 1996. You are right, it was as terrible performance by the front office. We went Cedric Jones, Amani Toomer, Roman Oben, Danny Kanell, Doug Colman, Scott Galyon and Conrad Hamilton. In the aftermath of that debacle, change was indeed in the air.

jmike
04-11-2012, 09:19 AM
Tyrone Wheatley</p>


Thats him....nice job</p>


Z</p>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</p>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</p>


Z</p>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</p>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</p>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</p>


Z</p>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.Better pick, yes, but I said decision, he wasn't a better decision. Derek Brown by all indications to most people looked like a great TE coming out of ND, he busted, but they needed a TE and he looked like he would be a good one. I can't fault the decision to take him just the end result. I blind deaf dead man could tell Dayne was going to suck and the reality is he was about 10,000,000 times better than I expected him to be. My bet was he would finish his career with a YPA of below 2 and wouldn't break 300 yards rushing in a season, or career really.
OK then Cedric Brown was a terrible decision.Cedric Jones was a poor decision. Might rank 3rd for me behind the other two. He was generally considered the next best DE available, but was picked too high and it was a forced pick. They had 4 guys they wanted and they picked 5th and had no plan B because they didn't expect all 4 to be taken before them. They were unprepared, but the FO learned a hard lesson that day and it cause some positive changes that have eventually lead to one of the better prepared teams come draft time. I think that was a turning point for them and it took a few seasons but they have been getting steadily better since.
I went back and revisited that draft classfrom 1996. You are right, it was as terrible performance by the front office. We went Cedric Jones, Amani Toomer, Roman Oben, Danny Kanell, Doug Colman, Scott Galyon and Conrad Hamilton. In the aftermath of that debacle, change was indeed in the air.Overall though a pretty decent draft. Toomer alone makes it passable, anytime you get an all time team great in a draft, you did pretty well. Oben had a very long and successful career and Galyon and Hamilton both turned into good role players for a while. Hamilton was even a starter for a stretch. I think they learned to scout everybody and not to assume. Everybody thought somebody ahead of them would take all world talent ten cent head Laurence Phillips before them, they didn't and they were standing there with noone to dance with. Sucks to have pick number 5 in a 4 player draft. Wonder who was #2 on their list after Jones, some decent players went after that....Eddie George at 14.....Marvin Harrison at 19.....Pete Kendall at 21(this was who I wanted that year)....Eric Moulds at 24....Ray Lewis at 26.

jomo
04-11-2012, 08:02 PM
Tyrone Wheatley</P>


Thats him....nice job</P>


Z</P>


This connects with an earlier post about 1st round draft choices where someone concluded (off point) that we need not draft running backs from Michigan any longer.</P>


That was a running joke we had with some of the guys I go to games with Jomo....."who are the Giants drafting this year" which would be answered with "whose the star RB @ Michigan this year?" lol</P>


Z</P>


Bunch, Wheatley and Woolfolk.........wow! You add Ron Dayne to that mix and you've got yourself a stable full of Big Ten mistakes at RB.</P>


And Dayne almost chose Michigan as a college.....maybe the Giants knew this!!! lol jk Jomo</P>


I still think Dayne could have had a decent NFL career if hewas in the right offensive system just my opinion</P>


Z</P>I hear that a lot, but I have to disagree. He just was not suited for the NFL by any stretch. He was not particularly fast, terrible vision, had slow feet, no wiggle, he had size but did not run in a way that took advantage of it, he stopped his feet on contact, subsequently produced little drive, wasn't even a good receiver out of the backfield, all in all he had not a single skill of a successful NFL running back. The amazing thing to me was that he was drafted at all. I would say only Thomas Lewis surpasses him as the worst decision in the 1st round ever, because at least Dayne was good in college.
Dayne was a better first round pick than Derek Brown too imo.Better pick, yes, but I said decision, he wasn't a better decision. Derek Brown by all indications to most people looked like a great TE coming out of ND, he busted, but they needed a TE and he looked like he would be a good one. I can't fault the decision to take him just the end result. I blind deaf dead man could tell Dayne was going to suck and the reality is he was about 10,000,000 times better than I expected him to be. My bet was he would finish his career with a YPA of below 2 and wouldn't break 300 yards rushing in a season, or career really.
OK then Cedric Brown was a terrible decision.Cedric Jones was a poor decision. Might rank 3rd for me behind the other two. He was generally considered the next best DE available, but was picked too high and it was a forced pick. They had 4 guys they wanted and they picked 5th and had no plan B because they didn't expect all 4 to be taken before them. They were unprepared, but the FO learned a hard lesson that day and it cause some positive changes that have eventually lead to one of the better prepared teams come draft time. I think that was a turning point for them and it took a few seasons but they have been getting steadily better since.
I went back and revisited that draft classfrom 1996. You are right, it was as terrible performance by the front office. We went Cedric Jones, Amani Toomer, Roman Oben, Danny Kanell, Doug Colman, Scott Galyon and Conrad Hamilton. In the aftermath of that debacle, change was indeed in the air.Overall though a pretty decent draft. Toomer alone makes it passable, anytime you get an all time team great in a draft, you did pretty well. Oben had a very long and successful career and Galyon and Hamilton both turned into good role players for a while. Hamilton was even a starter for a stretch. I think they learned to scout everybody and not to assume. Everybody thought somebody ahead of them would take all world talent ten cent head Laurence Phillips before them, they didn't and they were standing there with noone to dance with. Sucks to have pick number 5 in a 4 player draft. Wonder who was #2 on their list after Jones, some decent players went after that....Eddie George at 14.....Marvin Harrison at 19.....Pete Kendall at 21(this was who I wanted that year)....Eric Moulds at 24....Ray Lewis at 26.
Despite his slow start, Toomer developed into an all time great Giants receiver capping his career with several extraordinary grabs in our run to the SB. That can't be minimized in any way. Oben was a living, breathing false start penalty for us. His contributions on the field were done elsewhere. He is however one of the better ex-player analysts we've been saddled with on radio lol. With an absolute zero laid on the first round pick and nothing but AT to show for the draft, let's just say I have higher expectations and a much higher bar for "decent draft." You are dead on however that this draft turned everything around for us in the front office and the die was cast that remains today. In that regard, it was more than decent, it was earth shifting!

Roswell777
04-12-2012, 02:09 PM
With few exceptions, in the 90s, the Giants were much more productive with their second round picks than their first round picks.

Strahan, Toomer, Barber...any others?

zimonami
04-12-2012, 05:02 PM
With few exceptions, in the 90s, the Giants were much more productive with their second round picks than their first round picks.

Strahan, Toomer, Barber...any others?'
Hey. Ros

I think both Mike Fox and Jordan Spark's father (Phillipi will have to live with the fact that she is more well known than he is) were 2nd's that were pretty good

lawl
04-12-2012, 05:35 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant?

Ill give hints if need be.

zimonami
04-12-2012, 05:55 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant?

Ill give hints if need be.
Not sure what you're asking, lawl... Who was the last Giant LB from Seminole County, FL??

SEC105
04-12-2012, 06:03 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Thats a tough one lawl........just throw a name out there ....Mike Barrow...I believe he was from somewhere around that area</P>


How have you been...still at UCF?</P>


Z</P>

SEC105
04-12-2012, 06:06 PM
Not a RB.....but who is this Michigan player who had a long NFL career including a short stinit with Giants at the end of his career. [mid seventies] played safety in NFL but played QB and DB in college</P>


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/volk2.jpg</P>


Z</P>


</P>


No guesses on who this Michigan player is...I believe he played in the Super Bowl for the BaltimoreColts as a safety.....but he was a short term Giant at the end of career</P>


Z</P>


How about Rick Volk... All Pro, and played one year ( I think his last) with us.</P>


Thats him Zim......Rick Volk played both ways @ Michigan and was knocked unconcious in Super Bowl 3....later won a SB ring with Colts picking off a 4th quater pass form a former Giant QB....any guesses who that QB might be?</P>


Z</P>

lawl
04-12-2012, 06:11 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Thats a tough one lawl........just throw a name out there ....Mike Barrow...I believe he was from somewhere around that area</P>


How have you been...still at UCF?</P>


Z</P>

More recent than mike barrow. He was a starter for us, just to eliminate some guys.


I'm great, graduated in December and got a job for siemens working on gas turbines.

lawl
04-12-2012, 06:15 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant?

Ill give hints if need be.
Not sure what you're asking, lawl... Who was the last Giant LB from Seminole County, FL??

Yup, sorry for the confusion.

SEC105
04-12-2012, 06:30 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Thats a tough one lawl........just throw a name out there ....Mike Barrow...I believe he was from somewhere around that area</P>


How have you been...still at UCF?</P>


Z</P>


More recent than mike barrow. He was a starter for us, just to eliminate some guys. I'm great, graduated in December and got a job for siemens working on gas turbines.</P>


Congrats to you on graduation and job already.......very nice glad to hear to hear it</P>


you got meon the question.......does the LB have a Super Bowl ring?</P>


Z</P>

lawl
04-12-2012, 06:33 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Thats a tough one lawl........just throw a name out there ....Mike Barrow...I believe he was from somewhere around that area</P>


How have you been...still at UCF?</P>


Z</P>


More recent than mike barrow. He was a starter for us, just to eliminate some guys. I'm great, graduated in December and got a job for siemens working on gas turbines.</P>


Congrats to you on graduation and job already.......very nice**** glad to hear to hear it</P>


you got me*on the question.......does the LB have a Super Bowl ring?</P>


Z</P>

Thanks!

And yes, he sure does.

SEC105
04-12-2012, 06:45 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Thats a tough one lawl........just throw a name out there ....Mike Barrow...I believe he was from somewhere around that area</P>


How have you been...still at UCF?</P>


Z</P>


More recent than mike barrow. He was a starter for us, just to eliminate some guys. I'm great, graduated in December and got a job for siemens working on gas turbines.</P>


Congrats to you on graduation and job already.......very nice glad to hear to hear it</P>


you got meon the question.......does the LB have a Super Bowl ring?</P>


Z</P>


Thanks! And yes, he sure does.</P>


Ahhhhh.....I know who it is ......"he was a starter".......I'll just wait to see if anybody else wants to venture a guess</P>


Z</P>

ny06
04-14-2012, 03:09 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Kawika Mitchell?</P>

allentown PA
04-14-2012, 06:16 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Thats a tough one lawl........just throw a name out there ....Mike Barrow...I believe he was from somewhere around that area</P>


How have you been...still at UCF?</P>


Z</P>

More recent than mike barrow. He was a starter for us, just to eliminate some guys.


I'm great, graduated in December and got a job for siemens working on gas turbines.

damn lawl..congrats man!

lawl
04-15-2012, 09:16 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Kawika Mitchell?</P>

Yup.

Kawika went to lake Howell, rivers went to lake Mary

lawl
04-15-2012, 09:17 PM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Thats a tough one lawl........just throw a name out there ....Mike Barrow...I believe he was from somewhere around that area</P>


How have you been...still at UCF?</P>


Z</P>

More recent than mike barrow. He was a starter for us, just to eliminate some guys.


I'm great, graduated in December and got a job for siemens working on gas turbines.

damn lawl..congrats man!

Thanks bud

zimonami
04-15-2012, 09:57 PM
Not a RB.....but who is this Michigan player who had a long NFL career including a short stinit with Giants at the end of* his career. [mid seventies]****** played safety in NFL but played QB and DB in college</P>


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/volk2.jpg</P>


Z</P>


</P>


No guesses on who this Michigan player is...I believe he played in the Super Bowl for the Baltimore*Colts as a safety.....but he was a short term Giant at the end of career</P>


Z</P>


How about Rick Volk... All Pro, and played one year ( I think his last) with us.</P>


Thats him Zim......Rick Volk* played both ways @ Michigan and was knocked unconcious in Super Bowl 3....later won a SB ring with Colts picking off a 4th quater pass form a former Giant QB....any guesses who that QB might be?</P>


Z</P>
Yes, my most unfavorite Giant QB of all times... Craig Morton

zimonami
04-16-2012, 12:10 AM
Keith rivers is the latest NYG linebacker that went to high school in Seminole county, FL. Who held this title before rivers became a giant? Ill give hints if need be.</P>


Thats a tough one lawl........just throw a name out there ....Mike Barrow...I believe he was from somewhere around that area</P>


How have you been...still at UCF?</P>


Z</P>

More recent than mike barrow. He was a starter for us, just to eliminate some guys.


I'm great, graduated in December and got a job for siemens working on gas turbines.
WTG, Lawl... Siemens is a good company... lots of luck.

SEC105
04-21-2012, 01:04 PM
Can we name all 3 players shown.............hint: 75 is Jim Katcavage [;)]</P>


Z</P>


http://www.mearsonlineauctions.com/LotImages/3/1074a_lg.jpeg</P>

zimonami
04-21-2012, 01:30 PM
Can we name all 3 players shown.............hint: 75 is Jim Katcavage [;)]</P>


Z</P>


http://www.mearsonlineauctions.com/LotImages/3/1074a_lg.jpeg</P>
That's Ernie Green... a pretty decent runner in his own right, and John Loveteer, a pretty decent DT for us.

SEC105
04-21-2012, 02:11 PM
Can we name all 3 players shown.............hint: 75 is Jim Katcavage [;)]</P>


Z</P>


http://www.mearsonlineauctions.com/LotImages/3/1074a_lg.jpeg</P>


That's Ernie Green... a pretty decent runner in his own right, and John Loveteer, a pretty decent DT for us.</P>


Nice job Z.......You nailed it! when a new message board starts...... does that mean we get to ask these questions all over again?I SURE HOPE SO!!! lol</P>


Y. A......what do you think .........??? Ron Johnson....what was that ? .....again something about 1000 yards and "The New York FOOTBALL Giants" [:D]</P>


Z </P>

jomo
04-23-2012, 01:02 PM
Katcavage graduated from a school in Ohio but not the one where players wear buckeyes on their helmets. Can you name that school known more for basketball than football?

allentown PA
04-30-2012, 08:30 PM
Katcavage graduated from a school in Ohio but not the one where players wear buckeyes on their helmets. Can you name that school known more for basketball than football?

cincy?

zimonami
05-01-2012, 04:43 PM
Katcavage graduated from a school in Ohio but not the one where players wear buckeyes on their helmets. Can you name that school known more for basketball than football?

cincy? hahaha... it took a week for allentown to answer. I never even saw the question. With all the draft talk our little thread just kinda got pushed aside.
I agree, the Cincy Bearcats... have won a national championship in Hoop with the Big O,... Oscar Robertson. The football is Big East... Cincy never has and never will contend for National Champs...I don't think any Big East team ever will... but, they play respectably enough that they might crack top 20 some day

YATittle1962
05-01-2012, 07:16 PM
what ex NY Giant player ...while he was the head coach of a different franchise ..... accused Al Davis of "bugging" his visitors locker room and knowing his teams game plan?


.....it has been said that he would even yell at the ceiling saying....damn you Al Davis !!!!

thinking Al heard every word that was said in the locker room

zimonami
05-01-2012, 08:51 PM
what ex NY Giant player ...while he was the head coach of a different franchise ..... accused Al Davis of "bugging" his visitors locker room and knowing his teams game plan?


.....it has been said that he would even yell at the ceiling saying....damn you Al Davis !!!!

thinking Al heard every word that was said in the locker room
Gotta be from the AFC west that played Oakland every year. I'll try Harland Svare who coached the Chargers in the early 70's after the merger.

scoopscj
05-01-2012, 09:30 PM
Got a good one, not sure if it was mentioned here, but here goes...


Who was on the sideline for all 4 Giants SB Victories?





Scoops

jomo
05-01-2012, 10:53 PM
Got a good one, not sure if it was mentioned here, but here goes...


Who was on the sideline for all 4 Giants SB Victories?





Scoops


Wasn't it the equipment manager who recently retired??

YATittle1962
05-01-2012, 11:02 PM
what ex NY Giant player ...while he was the head coach of a different franchise ..... accused Al Davis of "bugging" his visitors locker room and knowing his teams game plan?


.....it has been said that he would even yell at the ceiling saying....damn you Al Davis !!!!

thinking Al heard every word that was said in the locker room
Gotta be from the AFC west that played Oakland every year. I'll try Harland Svare who coached the Chargers in the early 70's after the merger.

no idea why I thought that one would be tough

no match for a champion like Zimmy himself

allentown PA
05-01-2012, 11:06 PM
On the current roster, who are the 6 players that the giants drafted, who have been named to the pro bowl?

YATittle1962
05-01-2012, 11:07 PM
Got a good one, not sure if it was mentioned here, but here goes...


Who was on the sideline for all 4 Giants SB Victories?





Scoops




I can name a few

Mike Pope TE coach
Mike Murphy chief of security
Ronnie Barnes VP of medicine
Russell Warren team physician

another DR whos name is escaping me at the moment...ill think of it


im sure there is more

scoopscj
05-01-2012, 11:23 PM
Didn't know there were that many! WOah. I was thinking of Bill Bellichek. 2 for the Giants and 2 against. All 4 Giant wins he was on the sideline. Ours and theirs!!


Scoops

jomo
05-01-2012, 11:37 PM
Didn't know there were that many! WOah. I was thinking of Bill Bellichek. 2 for the Giants and 2 against. All 4 Giant wins he was on the sideline. Ours and theirs!!


Scoops

I love the Bellichek one. It has a certain karma to it. [Y]

allentown PA
05-03-2012, 07:33 PM
Easy one..name the 6 players on the current roster that were drafted by the giants, that have made the pro bowl.

NYGRealityCheck
05-03-2012, 09:41 PM
Easy one..name the 6 players on the current roster that were drafted by the giants, that have made the pro bowl.

Tuck Osi Eli Diehl Snee and JPP?... NEXT!

Wait...

Rolle was from Cardinals.
Cruz was from heaven.

allentown PA
05-03-2012, 09:42 PM
Easy one..name the 6 players on the current roster that were drafted by the giants, that have made the pro bowl.

Tuck Osi Eli Cruz Rolle Snee... NEXT!

Wait...

Rolle wasnt drafted by the giants...next!!! btw cruz didnt make the pro bowl

allentown PA
05-03-2012, 09:44 PM
Easy one..name the 6 players on the current roster that were drafted by the giants, that have made the pro bowl.

Tuck Osi Eli Diehl Snee... NEXT!

Wait...

Rolle was from Cardinals.
Cruz was from heaven.

still missing one..keep trying..ull get it

NYGRealityCheck
05-03-2012, 09:46 PM
Easy one..name the 6 players on the current roster that were drafted by the giants, that have made the pro bowl.

Tuck Osi Eli Diehl Snee... NEXT!

Wait...

Rolle was from Cardinals.
Cruz was from heaven.

still missing one..keep trying..ull get it

JPP? I remeber Collinsworth saying something like if JPP is not in the pro bowl this year, there should be an investigation.

after JPP's amazing performance against Cowboys at Dallas....

allentown PA
05-03-2012, 09:50 PM
Easy one..name the 6 players on the current roster that were drafted by the giants, that have made the pro bowl.

Tuck Osi Eli Diehl Snee... NEXT!

Wait...

Rolle was from Cardinals.
Cruz was from heaven.

still missing one..keep trying..ull get it

JPP? I remeber Collinsworth saying something like if JPP is not in the pro bowl this year, there should be an investigation.

after JPP's amazing performance against Cowboys at Dallas....

yup..good work..only took u three tries.

NYGRealityCheck
05-03-2012, 10:23 PM
Eli Manning to Victor Cruz for 99 yards vs. the Jets this past season is the longest pass play in Giants history (obviously).

What is now the second longest pass play in Giants history?

zimonami
05-03-2012, 10:52 PM
Eli Manning to Victor Cruz for 99 yards vs. the Jets this past season is the longest pass play in Giants history (obviously).

What is now the second longest pass play in Giants history?
Earl Morrell to Homer Jones??? 93 yards? We've had this over a year ago, but my memory is fuzzy.

NYGRealityCheck
05-03-2012, 11:52 PM
Eli Manning to Victor Cruz for 99 yards vs. the Jets this past season is the longest pass play in Giants history (obviously).

What is now the second longest pass play in Giants history?
Earl Morrell to Homer Jones??? 93 yards? We've had this over a year ago, but my memory is fuzzy.

Not quite according to my source... will post answer tomorrow unless someone gets it. (off to bed)

SEC105
05-04-2012, 12:56 AM
Eli Manning to Victor Cruz for 99 yards vs. the Jets this past season is the longest pass play in Giants history (obviously). What is now the second longest pass play in Giants history? Earl Morrell to Homer Jones??? 93 yards? We've had this over a year ago, but my memory is fuzzy.</P>


Homers was 98 yards Ithink Zim.....Rich Houston had one of about 95 yards from Norm Snead in the early seventies</P>


http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/060/933/Homer-Jones--1964-1969--new-york-giants-715648_181_250_display_image.jpg?1309398170</P>


Z</P>

scoopscj
05-04-2012, 02:22 AM
Tiki Barber run for a TD vs Raiders? I know it was really crazy far with some nice blocks by Toomer and Plax.


Not sure the yardage.

NYGRealityCheck
05-04-2012, 06:33 PM
Eli Manning to Victor Cruz for 99 yards vs. the Jets this past season is the longest pass play in Giants history (obviously). What is now the second longest pass play in Giants history? Earl Morrell to Homer Jones??? 93 yards? We've had this over a year ago, but my memory is fuzzy.</P>


Homers was 98 yards I*think *Zim.....Rich Houston had one of about 95 yards from Norm Snead in the early seventies</P>


http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/060/933/Homer-Jones--1964-1969--new-york-giants-715648_181_250_display_image.jpg?1309398170</P>


Z</P>

Just conifrmed, sorry, it was indeed Earl Morall to Homer Jones for a 98-yd TD pass against the Steelers in 1966.

Two sources..
http://sports.nyhistory.org/homer-jones/

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/12/25/dottino-merry-christmas-for-giants/

Then, the third longest Giants passing play would be Norm Snead to Rich Houston for a 94-yard TD against the Cowboys in 1972.

source:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197209240nyg.htm

There's another source, but that'll lead to the next question below..

umm you're both correct.

Now... what would be fourth longest passing play in Giants history? I'm getting too pass-happy like the NFL...

allentown PA
05-04-2012, 07:16 PM
I have alot of respect for the older posters that post on this site and I was wondering what was the toughest season for you to endure as a fan? I've been spoiled, Im 31 and the worst years for me were a couple years in the mid 90's no big deal..if I had to pick, the 95 season sucked for some reason...if u had to pick a season which would it be?

zimonami
05-04-2012, 09:49 PM
I have alot of respect for the older posters that post on this site and I was wondering what was the toughest season for you to endure as a fan? I've been spoiled, Im 31 and the worst years for me were a couple years in the mid 90's no big deal..if I had to pick, the 95 season sucked for some reason...if u had to pick a season which would it be?
Oddly enough it was the '73 season, when I was 26. I saw the start of every season with rose colored glasses. We were 6-0 that preseason under the beloved Alex Webster, and I was sure we were going to be the superbowl surprise of the NFL season.
2-11-1 in the next 14 regular season games was a sobering reality and I have never been too depressed about a bad year ever since.
That was Webster's last year and we were blessed with Arnsparger after him, arguably one of the worst head coaches of all time.

allentown PA
05-04-2012, 09:50 PM
I have alot of respect for the older posters that post on this site and I was wondering what was the toughest season for you to endure as a fan? I've been spoiled, Im 31 and the worst years for me were a couple years in the mid 90's no big deal..if I had to pick, the 95 season sucked for some reason...if u had to pick a season which would it be?
Oddly enough it was the '73 season, when I was 26. I saw the start of every season with rose colored glasses. We were 6-0 that preseason under the beloved Alex Webster, and I was sure we were going to be the superbowl surprise of the NFL season.
2-11-1 in the next 14 regular season games was a sobering reality and I have never been too depressed about a bad year ever since.
That was Webster's last year and we were blessed with Arnsparger after him, arguably one of the worst head coaches of all time.

thats awesome zim..I could listen to you talk about past giant teams all day...how crazy was it that they played 6 preseason games back then? lol

allentown PA
05-04-2012, 09:51 PM
the year we signed hershel walker i was pumped and we came out and got beat on monday night football 35-0..had high hopes that year..what a lousy season.

jomo
05-05-2012, 12:00 AM
There were some rough seasonsbut there were some endearing players through that era; John Mendenhall and guys like that.

NYGRealityCheck
05-06-2012, 12:15 AM
Eli Manning to Victor Cruz for 99 yards vs. the Jets this past season is the longest pass play in Giants history (obviously). What is now the second longest pass play in Giants history? Earl Morrell to Homer Jones??? 93 yards? We've had this over a year ago, but my memory is fuzzy.</P>


Homers was 98 yards I*think *Zim.....Rich Houston had one of about 95 yards from Norm Snead in the early seventies</P>


http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/060/933/Homer-Jones--1964-1969--new-york-giants-715648_181_250_display_image.jpg?1309398170</P>


Z</P>

Just conifrmed, sorry, it was indeed Earl Morall to Homer Jones for a 98-yd TD pass against the Steelers in 1966.

Two sources..
http://sports.nyhistory.org/homer-jones/

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/12/25/dottino-merry-christmas-for-giants/

Then, the third longest Giants passing play would be Norm Snead to Rich Houston for a 94-yard TD against the Cowboys in 1972.

source:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197209240nyg.htm

There's another source, but that'll lead to the next question below..

umm you're both correct.

Now... what would be fourth longest passing play in Giants history? I'm getting too pass-happy like the NFL...

Eli Manning to Mario Manningham for a 92-yd TD vs Redskins, last Giants game of the 2010 season.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=310102028

Recap:

1. Eli Manning to Victor Cruz for a 99-yd TD vs, Jets Week 16 of the 2011 season.

2. Earl Morall to Homer Jones for a 98-yd TD pass against the Steelers in 1966.

3. Norm Snead to Rich Houston for a 94-yard TD against the Cowboys in 1972.

4. Eli Manning to Mario Manningham for a 92-yd TD vs Redskins, Week 17 of the 2010 season.

jints10
05-06-2012, 08:54 AM
During Eli's SNL appearance their was an old reporter with the name of an ex Giant who played on the 86 Super Bowl team. What is the name of the ex Giant they used for the name of the reporter? I Wonder if they knew the name they used was an ex Giants name?