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Razur
12-23-2012, 10:26 PM
There really is no logical way to explain how a team can show up and play stellar one week and in the cellar the next. The players , vets and rooks are ( or should be/ could be) some the most talented on the field today, and the coaching staff has managed to squander it away on terrible preparations, horrific plays calling on both sides of the ball, and absolutley no adjustment made to correct from week to week the inconsistent performances of players, by either instruction or disciplinary actions like benching, with the exception of David Wilson, who ironically has been one of the few brightest spots we have seen all year from these guys.

From TC to KG & PF, they have not righted the listing ship and are responsible for the demise of the season. I say this because according to each of them, in interviews they all admit what is / was needed to win week after week, and claimed that "practice was good" most of the time. This IMO was either a mask of the truth, or they were blind to it. Practice is NOT a real game, and running your team to only have a good practice, but not have it carry over to a game a few days later, implies that they ( coaches ) failed, and failed miserably.

Gilbride's years of incredibly, unimaginative play book cost us many games, and Fewells overstated " complicated " defense schemes proved competley useless all year, as the Giants defense dropped to one of the leagues lowest ranked. And despite a few games of incredible dominations of teams like GB, SF, Saints and Panthers...this team came out flat and physically unprepared to match up against teams thay should have beaten.

Again, this falls onto coaching, and the coaches here must be held accountable, starting right at the top with the HC. I don't care what we do next week with the Eagles, because even if we win, it will just be rolled into the "inconsistency" that has become the accepted "NORM" for this team this year.

And that should be unacceptable for the FO, and Owners. No coach this year should be let back in to risk a repeat next season. A SB ring saved Coughlin's job twice! In between those two his teams were disappointing and many view the two rings as just being HOT & LUCKY at the right time.

It is truly hard to argue this anymore. The Giants under Coughlin and his staff have had more UP & DOWN seasons then UP seaons. His record aside, TC has lost his ability to reach the players, and his coaches have all but been exposed as mediocre hacks.

Time to tear down this 'bridge" as its structure and foundation are unstable and will not support the weight of another miserable season.

CDN_G-FAN
12-23-2012, 10:48 PM
we hear this every year, tc has lost the players. the only thing more reliable than the sun rising or income taxes, are giants fans complaining about their head coach.

the only reason we have two superbowl rings is because the owners of this team think that kind of thought process is garbage.

and thank god for that.

Redeyejedi
12-23-2012, 10:51 PM
we hear this every year, tc has lost the players. the only thing more reliable than the sun rising or income taxes, are giants fans complaining about their head coach.

the only reason we have two superbowl rings is because the owners of this team think that kind of thought process is garbage.

and thank god for that.Thank U

Rudyy
12-23-2012, 10:51 PM
we hear this every year, tc has lost the players. the only thing more reliable than the sun rising or income taxes, are giants fans complaining about their head coach.

the only reason we have two superbowl rings is because the owners of this team think that kind of thought process is garbage.

and thank god for that.We also have second have slumps. It's hit or miss. Either we go on to win the Super Bowl or we end our season in a crushing defeat.

BigBlueAllDay
12-23-2012, 10:52 PM
I think Tom Coughlin is doing what he can with the game preparations. If the players come out and tank games like that. It's on the players.

YATittle1962
12-23-2012, 10:52 PM
we hear this every year, tc has lost the players. the only thing more reliable than the sun rising or income taxes, are giants fans complaining about their head coach.

the only reason we have two superbowl rings is because the owners of this team think that kind of thought process is garbage.

and thank god for that.

somebody buy this man a drink

Buddy333
12-23-2012, 10:56 PM
we hear this every year, tc has lost the players. the only thing more reliable than the sun rising or income taxes, are giants fans complaining about their head coach.the only reason we have two superbowl rings is because the owners of this team think that kind of thought process is garbage.and thank god for that.Never blame the players. You are a hater if you do.

CruznNicks
12-23-2012, 10:57 PM
I was watching Rodney Harrison on the Niners/Hawks pregame show and he mentioned that his former DC called him and said he has a special game plan for the Giants. That right there should speak volumes about Gilbride and his scheme. Add insult to injury, Harbaugh said "The Giants pass rush don't scare him". The opposing teams see something that the Giants don't see obviously. The Giants are a very flawed team that will get beat by Nick Foles and the Eagles next week.

Toadofsteel
12-23-2012, 11:01 PM
I think Tom Coughlin is doing what he can with the game preparations. If the players come out and tank games like that. It's on the players.

Kinda suspicious when pretty much everybody except Wilson, Randle, and Hosley tank games. And then Wilson and Randle get removed.

JustinTuckNYG91
12-23-2012, 11:02 PM
I was watching Rodney Harrison on the Niners/Hawks pregame show and he mentioned that his former DC called him and said he has a special game plan for the Giants. That right there should speak volumes about Gilbride and his scheme. Add insult to injury, Harbaugh said "The Giants pass rush don't scare him". The opposing teams see something that the Giants don't see obviously. The Giants are a very flawed team that will get beat by Nick Foles and the Eagles next week.

Definitely believe the KG and his scheme talk. As for the pass rush, double team JPP, all done, there isn't anyone else stepping it up.

Paradroid
12-23-2012, 11:08 PM
Gilbride reminds me of the longtime OC at my alma mater, Texas. Both guys have headed up some of the most prolific offenses in their respective teams' histories, both have won championships, but both have come to be reviled by the fanbase. Their head coaches are loyal to them to a fault, their playcalling has become too predictable, and ultimately each guy has become an albatross.

Texas finally canned Greg Davis in 2010...

Rudyy
12-23-2012, 11:10 PM
I never questioned this coaching staff..even last year when everyone else was.

But now I'm seeing a negative trend. Do some people watch the press conferences? I sure do and I hear them (coaches and players) say "we are ready to go, we are prepared, this is a new season and we are ready" all this talk. Yet..we play like a High School team. We just come out so flat, unprepared, and so unmotivated. At some point, you're going to have to go to the coaching staff and question what they are really doing. How is it these players are so good one week and terrible the next? In the first few games of the season...we were a top 5 offense, then all of a sudden we can't even score touchdowns? What? Did everybody on the team lose their ability to play football? That doesn't make sense.

I'm not totally putting this on the coaches, I think the players have to own up and play to the best of their abilities. They are not doing that. They are relying on someone else to make the big play. Whether it's Eli in the 4th quarter, or David Wilson returning one to the house or Cruz making that huge play..we need EVERYONE to play like a team and right now we aren't doing that.

At the end of the day, whether you agree with it or not, you're going to have to question the coaching staff. Tom said himself we won't be having another second half collapse and we did just that...his response? he doesn't have one. He doesn't know. When your own head coach doesn't know what the problem is..THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

CDN_G-FAN
12-23-2012, 11:15 PM
I never questioned this coaching staff..even last year when everyone else was.

But now I'm seeing a negative trend. Do some people watch the press conferences? I sure do and I hear them (coaches and players) say "we are ready to go, we are prepared, this is a new season and we are ready" all this talk. Yet..we play like a High School team. We just come out so flat, unprepared, and so unmotivated. At some point, you're going to have to go to the coaching staff and question what they are really doing. How is it these players are so good one week and terrible the next? In the first few games of the season...we were a top 5 offense, then all of a sudden we can't even score touchdowns? What? Did everybody on the team lose their ability to play football? That doesn't make sense.

I'm not totally putting this on the coaches, I think the players have to own up and play to the best of their abilities. They are not doing that. They are relying on someone else to make the big play. Whether it's Eli in the 4th quarter, or David Wilson returning one to the house or Cruz making that huge play..we need EVERYONE to play like a team and right now we aren't doing that.

At the end of the day, whether you agree with it or not, you're going to have to question the coaching staff. Tom said himself we won't be having another second half collapse and we did just that...his response? he doesn't have one. He doesn't know. When your own head coach doesn't know what the problem is..THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

this is closer to the point than most posts. the problem we have is complex, its not simple. we built our defense around a fierce pass rush that no longer exists, we used to preach a balanced offense now we can't run the ball. we used to win all the battles in the trenches now eli's under constant pressure and teams run it up the gut against us at will.

are their problems with the coaches? absolutely. is the solution a 'do over' and just fire everyone? No, because its far from our only problem.

Buddy333
12-23-2012, 11:17 PM
It's not like him to throw around blame. What you want him say he would never do. It's not his style.

Rudyy
12-23-2012, 11:19 PM
this is closer to the point than most posts. the problem we have is complex, its not simple. we built our defense around a fierce pass rush that no longer exists, we used to preach a balanced offense now we can't run the ball. we used to win all the battles in the trenches now eli's under constant pressure and teams run it up the gut against us at will.

are their problems with the coaches? absolutely. is the solution a 'do over' and just fire everyone? No, because its far from our only problem.Agreed.

I don't think the coaches need to be fired. They are good, but they need to learn how to make adjustments. For whatever reason they have a hard time doing that in the middle of the season when things are tightening up. Maybe it's the players that can't seem to adjust? That's a possibility I don't really know.