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MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:15 PM
DAVEN - THIS IS WHAT I REFRRED TO WHEN I MADE MY ORIGINAL QOUTE, I WILL REPOST THIS POST FOR U UNTIL U ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

YOU THEN BROUGHT UP THE ASSESS COMMENT, WHICH IS A REACH AND STRETCH TO ATTEMPT TO BE RIGHT IN THIS ARGUMENT..

AGAIN I STAY UNDEFEATED IN SQUABBLES WITH YOU..

GET ON MY LEVEL

He admitted some frustration with the lack of pass attempts downfield
-- "We had some chances to go down the field and we didn't," he said --
but he sidestepped a question about whether the Bills and quarterback Trent Edwards (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10536) are looking enough to the team's top receivers.

"No, I don't want to answer that," Owens said Sunday. "I don't want to
answer that, because whatever I say you guys are going to turn it to
however you want to say it."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831

im not going back on ****. Thats the qoutes i was referring to, you consider the comment of him having to assess downfield better as throwing edwards under the bus, i dont.

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 12:15 PM
wtf does that mean TALK about his QB lol.... so hes not allowed to mention him? No we are talking about whether he threw his QB under the bus or not...

No Matt, that's not what we are talking about, you said he was asked about playcalling an refused to answer when someone (dezz I think) asked if he had called out Edwards.

that's NOT what happened, he was asked about playcalling and talked about TRENT EDWARDS! you coinviently ignored that, you don't think what he said is that bad fine whatever you want, but clearly MANY other people did, point is you said he didn't even answer the questions, you don't know what your talking about, he DID answer the questions, and he DID talk about Edwards negatively.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:18 PM
No we are talking about whether he threw his QB under the bus or not...

asked if he had called out Edwards.





please re read this and tell me if anything u say makes sense.

called out and throw under the bus are two different things.

And i did prove the qoutes that i said he said... again ur wrong

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:19 PM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/davenbaby.jpg

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 12:19 PM
i'd even argue about that. If you've watched any buffalo game

I didn't watch it, but I know he complained afterwards and that's not a good sign for him.
<font color="#0000ff" size="5">didnt TO call out trent already?</font> he just doesnt get it. lol

na he didn't. <font color="#0000ff" size="5">He was asked if he likes the playcalling and he said im not gonna answer because your going to twist my words around.</font>


Incorrect, he DID call out trent, in the quote I supplied, you don't consider it calling him out, fine, whatever, but many other people did....

so when somone asks did TO call out Trent, you should have said, "I don't think he was calling him out, he was just talking about him" that fine, no problem, but you talk about something completely different that has nothing to do with what Dezz is asking about.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:19 PM
if this was ANY other WR in the league saying his QB needs to assess things better down field it owuldn't be an issue, btu because its TO its made a big deal of

EXAAAAAAACTLY!!!
</p>


hence my post earlier..if it was say carolina and steve smith said "i get open, we need to take more shots down field and punch in some TDs" NO ONE would say a word or take it as throwin scrub delhomme under the bus... its cause its TO and only TO... smith flat out threw jake under the bus and said i love you as a person but hate you as a QB and no one said a word about that...... but if it was TO hed be benched for 3 weeks...</p>


plug in those words coming out of Lee Evans mouth about the EXACT same situation and it would be completely overlooked.. because its TO stating the truth about how they need to take more down field shots its him starting problems in the locker room with edwards.</p>

not only are u hot and blond, but ur right

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 12:20 PM
No we are talking about whether he threw his QB under the bus or not...

asked if he had called out Edwards.





please re read this and tell me if anything u say makes sense.

called out and throw under the bus are two different things.

And i did prove the qoutes that i said he said... again ur wrong


you said he never called him out you said he was asked about playcalling and didn't answer....that's not true, he was asked about playcalling and he said trent edwards needed to improve...

everything I'm saying makes sense and is right, you just refuse to admit your wrong.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:21 PM
i'd even argue about that. If you've watched any buffalo game

I didn't watch it, but I know he complained afterwards and that's not a good sign for him.
<font color="#0000ff" size="5">didnt TO call out trent already?</font> he just doesnt get it. lol

na he didn't. <font color="#0000ff" size="5">He was asked if he likes the playcalling and he said im not gonna answer because your going to twist my words around.</font>


Incorrect, he DID call out trent, in the quote I supplied, you don't consider it calling him out, fine, whatever, but many other people did....

so when somone asks did TO call out Trent, you should have said, "I don't think he was calling him out, he was just talking about him" that fine, no problem, but you talk about something completely different that has nothing to do with what Dezz is asking about.



AND THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN




He admitted some frustration with the lack of pass attempts
downfield -- "We had some chances to go down the field and we didn't,"
he said -- but he sidestepped a question about whether the Bills and
quarterback Trent Edwards (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10536) are looking enough to the team's top receivers.</p>

"No,
I don't want to answer that," Owens said Sunday. "I don't want to
answer that, because whatever I say you guys are going to turn it to
however you want to say it."</p>


</p>

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831</p>


</p>


</p>

now whose back tracking. Anytime a player talks about another player, i dont autmoatically assume that hes calling them out, unlike u obviously. And i said that wasn't a call out about 12 times thru this thread...</p>


</p>

hence, u lose... good day sir..</p>


</p>

ur getting slow in ur old age
</p>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:23 PM
everything I'm saying makes sense and is right, you just refuse to admit your wrong.



DAVENS WORLD

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/200439613-001.jpg?v=1&amp;c=NewsMaker&amp;k=2&amp;d=79D94D7195D79F82C55F 0E081A4EC7BECA62DE5246472DD0

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 12:23 PM
i'd even argue about that. If you've watched any buffalo game

I didn't watch it, but I know he complained afterwards and that's not a good sign for him.
<font color="#0000ff" size="5">didnt TO call out trent already?</font> he just doesnt get it. lol

na he didn't. <font color="#0000ff" size="5">He was asked if he likes the playcalling and he said im not gonna answer because your going to twist my words around.</font>


Incorrect, he DID call out trent, in the quote I supplied, you don't consider it calling him out, fine, whatever, but many other people did....

so when somone asks did TO call out Trent, you should have said, "I don't think he was calling him out, he was just talking about him" that fine, no problem, but you talk about something completely different that has nothing to do with what Dezz is asking about.



AND THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN


why yes it is.

"As I said earlier, there were some opportunities that we missed, and those are some of the things you're talking about. <span style="font-weight: bold;"><font color="#0000ff" size="5">Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there and take some shots down the field.</font>"</span>\

just because he didn't do it TWICE doesn't mean he didn't do it at all.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:23 PM
for once im with daven on this. how many times has TO done this guys. why give hime the benifite of the the doubt or defend him. like i said if he said the same thing last year(which he did)wed all be laughing. only this time it took him 2 games.....</P>


i personal dont see him CALLING out trent edwards on this... and i think hes stating the truth. TO needs to be targeted more and the team in general needs to take more shots.. that has nothign to do with edwards at all... and the statement was no where near throwing trent under the bus... because its TO thats how you look at it..</P>


if it was say carolina and steve smith said "i get open, we need to take more shots down field and punch in some TDs" NO ONE would say a word or take it as throwin scrub delhomme under the bus... its cause its TO and only TO... smith flat out said i love you as a person but hate you as a QB and no one said a word about that......</P>this is what TO does people!!! hes been doing it hiswhole career. bb said "people can change", sure they can. but we are also creatures of habbit. plusTO is borderline insane. i dont think he could change even if wanted to.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:24 PM
everything I'm saying makes sense and is right, you just refuse to admit your wrong.



DAVENS WORLD

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/200439613-001.jpg?v=1&amp;c=NewsMaker&amp;k=2&amp;d=79D94D7195D79F82C55F 0E081A4EC7BECA62DE5246472DD0
</P>


dont front that room looks fun as hell.. haha</P>

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 12:25 PM
ALLLLLLL I care about is that MMB said TO never complained or talked about Trent Edwards... and he DID, and I proved that he did by provided the quote, game over I win.

He was not complaining.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">"Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there and take some shots down the field."</span>

He is stating a fact. HE DOES!!!

If Plax said that about Eli no one would have said anything

If VJack said that about Rivers no one would have said anything

If Holmes said that about Ben no one would have said anything

If Jennings said that about Rodgers no one would have said anything

IT IS ONLY BECAUSE IT IS TO

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:26 PM
for once im with daven on this. how many times has TO done this guys. why give hime the benifite of the the doubt or defend him. like i said if he said the same thing last year(which he did)wed all be laughing. only this time it took him 2 games.....</p>


i personal dont see him CALLING out trent edwards on this... and i think hes stating the truth. TO needs to be targeted more and the team in general needs to take more shots.. that has nothign to do with edwards at all... and the statement was no where near throwing trent under the bus... because its TO thats how you look at it..</p>


if it was say carolina and steve smith said "i get open, we need to take more shots down field and punch in some TDs" NO ONE would say a word or take it as throwin scrub delhomme under the bus... its cause its TO and only TO... smith flat out said i love you as a person but hate you as a QB and no one said a word about that......</p>this is what TO does people!!! hes been doing it hiswhole career. bb said "people can change", sure they can. but we are also creatures of habbit. plusTO is borderline insane. i dont think he could change even if wanted to.

same would of been said about Randy Moss, but he changed.

Eitehr way im not on that topic of if he changed or not... the fact is he did nothing and is attempted to be killed for it. If he changed or not is not the issue, if he threw Edwards under hte bus is and i'm sorry when someone is asked a quesiton and they say "they need to do a better job assessing", its not an attack lol

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 12:29 PM
just for the record there is a differnece between mentioning your QBs name and throwing him under the bus.</P>


</P>


</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:31 PM
if this was ANY other WR in the league saying his QB needs to assess things better down field it owuldn't be an issue, btu because its TO its made a big deal of

EXAAAAAAACTLY!!!
</P>


hence my post earlier..if it was say carolina and steve smith said "i get open, we need to take more shots down field and punch in some TDs" NO ONE would say a word or take it as throwin scrub delhomme under the bus... its cause its TO and only TO... smith flat out threw jake under the bus and said i love you as a person but hate you as a QB and no one said a word about that...... but if it was TO hed be benched for 3 weeks...</P>


plug in those words coming out of Lee Evans mouth about the EXACT same situation and it would be completely overlooked.. because its TO stating the truth about how they need to take more down field shots its him starting problems in the locker room with edwards.</P>well smith IS throwing his qb under the bus with a comment like that. thats not even debatable.TO is one of the best wr of all time. thats why people make a big deal about it. is it right? no, but it is what it is. and in my eyes he did take a shot(however small it was) at trent. hes called out better qbs before lol

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 12:31 PM
Anytime a player talks about another player, i dont autmoatically assume that hes calling them out, <font color="#0000ff"><font size="4">unlike u obviously.</font> <font color="#000000" size="3">And i said that wasn't a call out about 12 times thru this thread...</font></font>

Not just me, me and the entire media, plus Dezz and many other football fans.

point is you completely ignored it like it never happened.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:31 PM
just for the record there is a differnece between mentioning your QBs name and throwing him under the bus.</p>


</p>


</p>

not in davens world

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 12:31 PM
if this was ANY other WR in the league saying his QB needs to assess things better down field it owuldn't be an issue, btu because its TO its made a big deal of

EXAAAAAAACTLY!!!
</P>


hence my post earlier..if it was say carolina and steve smith said "i get open, we need to take more shots down field and punch in some TDs" NO ONE would say a word or take it as throwin scrub delhomme under the bus... its cause its TO and only TO... smith flat out threw jake under the bus and said i love you as a person but hate you as a QB and no one said a word about that...... but if it was TO hed be benched for 3 weeks...</P>


plug in those words coming out of Lee Evans mouth about the EXACT same situation and it would be completely overlooked.. because its TO stating the truth about how they need to take more down field shots its him starting problems in the locker room with edwards.</P>




not only are u hot and blond, but ur right
</P>


[;)]</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:32 PM
Anytime a player talks about another player, i dont autmoatically assume that hes calling them out, <font color="#0000ff"><font size="4">unlike u obviously.</font> <font color="#000000" size="3">And i said that wasn't a call out about 12 times thru this thread...</font></font>

Not just me, me and the entire media, plus Dezz and many other football fans.

point is you completely ignored it like it never happened.


u mean the media blew up something TO did?

THEN IT MUST BE TRUE

i have plenty of contradicting media outlets that don't agree with you...

and i ignored it because i've seen plenty of real situations of people being thrown under the bus, most with TO, to know when something ISNT that

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:32 PM
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/babydaven.png

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 12:33 PM
just for the record there is a differnece between mentioning your QBs name and throwing him under the bus.</p>


</p>


</p>

Fine, but I consider what TO said "calling out" the his QB....the problem is it's subjective, you may think it was fine, when I don't....that's all opinion.

but matt said he didn't even mention him, and he DID...so Matt was wrong...as usually, and decided to turn the discussion into something completely different instead of just admitting his error, anyhow it's lunch time later.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 12:37 PM
Fine, but I consider what TO said "calling out" the his QB....the problem is it's subjective, you may think it was fine, when I don't....that's all opinion.
That is the problem, once again we are arguing about opinions...

Some think it was not

and

Some think it was

Saying your QB needs to assess the field and take some shots is not throwing him under the bus IMO

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:37 PM
just for the record there is a differnece between mentioning your QBs name and throwing him under the bus.</p>


</p>


</p>

Fine, but I consider what TO said "calling out" the his QB....the problem is it's subjective, you may think it was fine, when I don't....that's all opinion.

but matt said he didn't even mention him, and he DID...so Matt was wrong...as usually, and decided to turn the discussion into something completely different instead of just admitting his error, anyhow it's lunch time later.


where in this article did TO mention Edwards?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831

nowhere. And this is what i was talking about.

I never said hes never mentioned the name of TRent Edwards in ANY inteview or qoute hes done. Just because you assumed what I was saying, just like you u assumed that becasue TO mentioned another player it was throwing him under the bus.

Dont assume things, you make an *** out of U and ME

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 12:40 PM
If Lee Evans said that we would have never known...

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:41 PM
If Lee Evans said that we would have never known...


yea but Trent Dilfer thinks it was TO being TO, so it must be true

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:42 PM
Anytime a player talks about another player, i dont autmoatically assume that hes calling them out, <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=4>unlike u obviously.</FONT> <FONT color=#000000 size=3>And i said that wasn't a call out about 12 times thru this thread...</FONT></FONT>

Not just me, me and the entire media, plus Dezz and many other football fans.

point is you completely ignored it like it never happened.


u mean the media blew up something TO did?

THEN IT MUST BE TRUE

i have plenty of contradicting media outlets that don't agree with you...

and i ignored it because i've seen plenty of real situations of people being thrown under the bus, most with TO, to know when something ISNT that
</P>


well we all ate it up when he was with the cowboys, now hes a bill and TOs an alter boy???caaame on matt. show us these media outlets that say to has turned a new leaf, or TO didnt call out his qb.</P>


granted what he said isnt the most outragous quote hes ever said but hes starting already and to blow it off like "TO is satisfied" is naive</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:42 PM
If Lee Evans said that we would have never known...


yea but Trent Dilfer thinks it was TO being TO, so it must be true
im sure romo "thought" that as well. just because hes on your fantasy doesnt mean you have to defend him to the death matt. lol

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 12:45 PM
If Lee Evans said that we would have never known...


yea but Trent Dilfer thinks it was TO being TO, so it must be true
im sure romo "thought" that as well. just because hes on your fantasy doesnt mean you have to defend him to the death matt. lol Thats my QB your talking about...sob,sob. Its not fair.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 12:47 PM
How many times did Shockey call out Eli or show him up on the field by waving his hands in the air or whatever? Were you ok with that?

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:48 PM
Anytime a player talks about another player, i dont autmoatically assume that hes calling them out, <font color="#0000ff"><font size="4">unlike u obviously.</font> <font color="#000000" size="3">And i said that wasn't a call out about 12 times thru this thread...</font></font>

Not just me, me and the entire media, plus Dezz and many other football fans.

point is you completely ignored it like it never happened.


u mean the media blew up something TO did?

THEN IT MUST BE TRUE

i have plenty of contradicting media outlets that don't agree with you...

and i ignored it because i've seen plenty of real situations of people being thrown under the bus, most with TO, to know when something ISNT that
</p>


well we all ate it up when he was with the cowboys, now hes a bill and TOs an alter boy???caaame on matt. show us these media outlets that say to has turned a new leaf, or TO didnt call out his qb.</p>


granted what he said isnt the most outragous quote hes ever said but hes starting already and to blow it off like "TO is satisfied" is naive</p>

dont put words in my mouth or assume anything like daven does.

Infact if u read my last response to u i said i don't know if TO's changed or care if hes changed. All I know is the qoute that he had isn't a throwing his QB under the bus comment.

I also never said he was satisfied. Infact i said he wasn't satisfied wiht his role. Hes not satisfied with Lee Evans role either tho.

Hes not throwing tantrums or throwing teammates under hte bus is what im saying. Because hes not happy, as he should not be, that makes everything think hes being a ****head again and thats just the ignorance of u guys.

I've been making the same comment over and over on this topic, u and daven keep trying to make this debate something else and put words in my mouth

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:49 PM
How many times did Shockey call out Eli or show him up on the field by waving his hands in the air or whatever? Were you ok with that?
no i wasnt. not at all. shut your mouth get back in the huddle and try again.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 12:49 PM
PM

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 12:50 PM
If Lee Evans said that we would have never known...


yea but Trent Dilfer thinks it was TO being TO, so it must be true
im sure romo "thought" that as well. just because hes on your fantasy doesnt mean you have to defend him to the death matt. lol

lol TO last year said there was a conspiracy theory against him and ****. He was a distraction last year, i'll never deny that.

I just don't autmoatically assume that everything he says now is an attack, like the media def tries to do to him. And you guys are obviously biting the media bullet.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 12:51 PM
How many times did Shockey call out Eli or show him up on the field by waving his hands in the air or whatever? Were you ok with that?
no i wasnt. not at all. shut your mouth get back in the huddle and try again.
[8]I see your true colors shining through[8]

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:54 PM
Anytime a player talks about another player, i dont autmoatically assume that hes calling them out, <FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=4>unlike u obviously.</FONT> <FONT color=#000000 size=3>And i said that wasn't a call out about 12 times thru this thread...</FONT></FONT>

Not just me, me and the entire media, plus Dezz and many other football fans.

point is you completely ignored it like it never happened.


u mean the media blew up something TO did?

THEN IT MUST BE TRUE

i have plenty of contradicting media outlets that don't agree with you...

and i ignored it because i've seen plenty of real situations of people being thrown under the bus, most with TO, to know when something ISNT that
</P>


well we all ate it up when he was with the cowboys, now hes a bill and TOs an alter boy???caaame on matt. show us these media outlets that say to has turned a new leaf, or TO didnt call out his qb.</P>


granted what he said isnt the most outragous quote hes ever said but hes starting already and to blow it off like "TO is satisfied" is naive</P>

dont put words in my mouth or assume anything like daven does.

Infact if u read my last response to u i said i don't know if TO's changed or care if hes changed. All I know is the qoute that he had isn't a throwing his QB under the bus comment.

I also never said he was satisfied. Infact i said he wasn't satisfied wiht his role. Hes not satisfied with Lee Evans role either tho.

Hes not throwing tantrums or throwing teammates under hte bus is what im saying. Because hes not happy, as he should not be, that makes everything think hes being a ****head again and thats just the ignorance of u guys.

I've been making the same comment over and over on this topic, u and daven keep trying to make this debate something else and put words in my mouth
im not putting words in your mouth. i put the quotes so people know i didnt say it. all kinds of **** happens when TO's not happy so why is it so hard to believe? i dont even thinkHE knows when hes calling out his qb.still waiting on those articles....

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:55 PM
If Lee Evans said that we would have never known...


yea but Trent Dilfer thinks it was TO being TO, so it must be true
im sure romo "thought" that as well. just because hes on your fantasy doesnt mean you have to defend him to the death matt. lol

lol TO last year said there was a conspiracy theory against him and ****. He was a distraction last year, i'll never deny that.

I just don't autmoatically assume that everything he says now is an attack, like the media def tries to do to him. And you guys are obviously biting the media bullet.
matt, its the same guy, same story. whats not to believe.......

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 12:57 PM
How many times did Shockey call out Eli or show him up on the field by waving his hands in the air or whatever? Were you ok with that?
no i wasnt. not at all. shut your mouth get back in the huddle and try again.
[8]I see your true colors shining through[8]
i said it when he was with us lol. dont show up your qb. talk/yell on the sidelines.

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 12:58 PM
PM
answered.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:00 PM
okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times


IN THIS FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA the playcalling and game planning.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831

You guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally disagreed.

I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.

Whether hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that there is no **** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media is trying to make soemthing out of nothing

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:01 PM
i dont think TO "threw trent under the bus" but he DID take a shot at him.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:02 PM
If Lee Evans said that we would have never known...


yea but Trent Dilfer thinks it was TO being TO, so it must be true
im sure romo "thought" that as well. just because hes on your fantasy doesnt mean you have to defend him to the death matt. lol

lol TO last year said there was a conspiracy theory against him and ****. He was a distraction last year, i'll never deny that.

I just don't autmoatically assume that everything he says now is an attack, like the media def tries to do to him. And you guys are obviously biting the media bullet.
matt, its the same guy, same story. whats not to believe.......

he needs to assess things better is not an attack, if it was the old TO it would of been said in a different context, differently worded and it would of been said up front and in an insulting way... again if any other WR in the league said that it wouldn't be an issue. If any other WR said the stuff in the past that TO has on his former teams, they to would be killed for it.

The fact is this isn't the same story, it isn't even a story. The media is trying to make it a story and ur biting

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:03 PM
i dont think TO "threw trent under the bus" but he DID take a shot at him.

im sorry thats not taking a shot at him. It wans't an attack, you have to attack someone to take a shot at them.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:05 PM
okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times


IN THIS FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA the playcalling and game planning.

You guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally disagreed.

I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.

Whether hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that there is no **** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media is trying to make soemthing out of nothing
</P>


lmao oh so now hes a professional at taking shots at people??? where are all of the articles which contridict us ya ****in liar? lmao</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:06 PM
i dont think TO "threw trent under the bus" but he DID take a shot at him.

im sorry thats not taking a shot at him. It wans't an attack, you have to attack someone to take a shot at them.
im sorry but i think he did. this is how it ALLL started in san fran, philly, and dallas.

Kase-1
09-30-2009, 01:08 PM
Damn you faags are still arguing about TO!?!?!?!?!?!

Thank Goodness Im goin 2 work in a few mins, LOL

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:09 PM
enough, we scared everyone away

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:10 PM
Damn you faags are still arguing about TO!?!?!?!?!?!

Thank Goodness Im goin 2 work in a few mins, LOL
hey, it makes the day go by.....

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:10 PM
okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times


IN THIS FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA the playcalling and game planning.

You guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally disagreed.

I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.

Whether hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that there is no **** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media is trying to make soemthing out of nothing
</p>


lmao oh so now hes a professional at taking shots at people??? where are all of the articles which contridict us ya ****in liar? lmao</p>

i forgot to put the link in there, i edited it before go back and look..

or go and look at my posts for the past 10 pages when i put the address fpr teh page like 10 times.

Again, you think that was taking a shot at him, i dont. He handled it professionally instead of flipping like he normally does. If ANY other WR would of said this (like u admitted), then it wouldn't of been an issue and not considered somebody taking a shot at them...

Kase-1
09-30-2009, 01:12 PM
OK guys we all know the Oct 11th game is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, and I was just posting in the Gameday Cooking Thread and it got me thinking.......What do you guys wanna eat during out MASSIVE tailgate????

The Tailgate cooking is my area of expertise and since we have people from all over coming up for the game we gotta have a HUUUUUUUUGE Party goin down. I gotta head 2 work in a minute but get an idea of what you guys wanna eat and Ill gladly finagle up some KILLER recipes, so we can Eat like Kings and Drink like Fish

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:13 PM
i dont think TO "threw trent under the bus" but he DID take a shot at him.

im sorry thats not taking a shot at him. It wans't an attack, you have to attack someone to take a shot at them.
im sorry but i think he did. this is how it ALLL started in san fran, philly, and dallas.

na actually its not. in Dallas TO said that Romo and Witten were talking to the media about him and conspired to not throw the ball to him.

In Philly there was NEVER an issue of getting the ball to him.

in San Fran he personally attacked GArcia and called him gay and all of that and bla bla bla and demanded a trade.

Here he says essentially that there needs to be a better job done at getting the ball downfield to himself and lee evans... lol WOW, what a shot...

they should cut him for that one. The funny part is that hte coach mirrored everyting TO says and is 10xs more critical

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:14 PM
OK guys we all know the Oct 11th game is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, and I was just posting in the Gameday Cooking Thread and it got me thinking.......What do you guys wanna eat during out MASSIVE tailgate????

The Tailgate cooking is my area of expertise and since we have people from all over coming up for the game we gotta have a HUUUUUUUUGE Party goin down. I gotta head 2 work in a minute but get an idea of what you guys wanna eat and Ill gladly finagle up some KILLER recipes, so we can Eat like Kings and Drink like Fish


im good at showing up and drinking

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:17 PM
okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times


IN THIS FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA the playcalling and game planning.

You guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally disagreed.

I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.

Whether hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that there is no **** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media is trying to make soemthing out of nothing
</P>


lmao oh so now hes a professional at taking shots at people??? where are all of the articles which contridict us ya ****in liar? lmao</P>

i forgot to put the link in there, i edited it before go back and look..

or go and look at my posts for the past 10 pages when i put the address fpr teh page like 10 times.

Again, you think that was taking a shot at him, i dont. He handled it professionally instead of flipping like he normally does. If ANY other WR would of said this (like u admitted), then it wouldn't of been an issue and not considered somebody taking a shot at them...


yea i admitted that the spotlights on him because he one of the best wr ever. look if manningham said i would of liked eli to give me a few more looks, to me, thats taking a shot(however small it may be). keep it in the locker room. when it comes to the media, suck eachother off.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:19 PM
okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times


IN THIS FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA the playcalling and game planning.

You guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally disagreed.

I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.

Whether hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that there is no **** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media is trying to make soemthing out of nothing
</p>


lmao oh so now hes a professional at taking shots at people??? where are all of the articles which contridict us ya ****in liar? lmao</p>

i forgot to put the link in there, i edited it before go back and look..

or go and look at my posts for the past 10 pages when i put the address fpr teh page like 10 times.

Again, you think that was taking a shot at him, i dont. He handled it professionally instead of flipping like he normally does. If ANY other WR would of said this (like u admitted), then it wouldn't of been an issue and not considered somebody taking a shot at them...


yea i admitted that the spotlights on him because he one of the best wr ever. look if manningham said i would of liked eli to give me a few more looks, to me, thats taking a shot(however small it may be). keep it in the locker room. when it comes to the media, suck eachother off.

preferred, fine, but would u consider it a shot at eli? I dont

Kase-1
09-30-2009, 01:19 PM
OCT 11th Menu Thread (/forums/1472665/ShowThread.aspx#1472665)

Tell me what you guys wanna eat and such, cause the game is right around the corner and we need to get some planning and organizing in order

Matt you still grabbin a keg???

JPizzack
09-30-2009, 01:19 PM
OK guys we all know the Oct 11th game is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, and I was just posting in the Gameday Cooking Thread and it got me thinking.......What do you guys wanna eat during out MASSIVE tailgate????

The Tailgate cooking is my area of expertise and since we have people from all over coming up for the game we gotta have a HUUUUUUUUGE Party goin down. I gotta head 2 work in a minute but get an idea of what you guys wanna eat and Ill gladly finagle up some KILLER recipes, so we can Eat like Kings and Drink like Fish


im good at showing up and drinking
</P>


ditto</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:20 PM
i dont think TO "threw trent under the bus" but he DID take a shot at him.

im sorry thats not taking a shot at him. It wans't an attack, you have to attack someone to take a shot at them.
im sorry but i think he did. this is how it ALLL started in san fran, philly, and dallas.

na actually its not. in Dallas TO said that Romo and Witten were talking to the media about him and conspired to not throw the ball to him.

In Philly there was NEVER an issue of getting the ball to him.

in San Fran he personally attacked GArcia and called him gay and all of that and bla bla bla and demanded a trade.

Here he says essentially that there needs to be a better job done at getting the ball downfield to himself and lee evans... lol WOW, what a shot...

they should cut him for that one. The funny part is that hte coach mirrored everyting TO says and is 10xs more critical
maaaatt just stop. it was never ONE lone issue in all those towns. TO's an ***. end debate

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:21 PM
OK guys we all know the Oct 11th game is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, and I was just posting in the Gameday Cooking Thread and it got me thinking.......What do you guys wanna eat during out MASSIVE tailgate????

The Tailgate cooking is my area of expertise and since we have people from all over coming up for the game we gotta have a HUUUUUUUUGE Party goin down. I gotta head 2 work in a minute but get an idea of what you guys wanna eat and Ill gladly finagle up some KILLER recipes, so we can Eat like Kings and Drink like Fish
i was actually thinking the same thing before lunch. you mofrigaas better buy me some steaks. lol

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 01:25 PM
OK guys we all know the Oct 11th game is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, and I was just posting in the Gameday Cooking Thread and it got me thinking.......What do you guys wanna eat during out MASSIVE tailgate????

The Tailgate cooking is my area of expertise and since we have people from all over coming up for the game we gotta have a HUUUUUUUUGE Party goin down. I gotta head 2 work in a minute but get an idea of what you guys wanna eat and Ill gladly finagle up some KILLER recipes, so we can Eat like Kings and Drink like Fish
I will be trying the chicken that Careerender posted. that sounds goooood.</P>


Superbowl salad sounds tasety as well.</P>


When we do it up in style- We do lobsters and steamers.....</P>


6-8 lobsters at a time roughly 8-10 lbs each. add 2 Sam Adams with a bottle of red wine and vinegar..YUMMMMY...</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:25 PM
i dont think TO "threw trent under the bus" but he DID take a shot at him.

im sorry thats not taking a shot at him. It wans't an attack, you have to attack someone to take a shot at them.
im sorry but i think he did. this is how it ALLL started in san fran, philly, and dallas.

na actually its not. in Dallas TO said that Romo and Witten were talking to the media about him and conspired to not throw the ball to him.

In Philly there was NEVER an issue of getting the ball to him.

in San Fran he personally attacked GArcia and called him gay and all of that and bla bla bla and demanded a trade.

Here he says essentially that there needs to be a better job done at getting the ball downfield to himself and lee evans... lol WOW, what a shot...

they should cut him for that one. The funny part is that hte coach mirrored everyting TO says and is 10xs more critical
maaaatt just stop. it was never ONE lone issue in all those towns. TO's an ***. end debate

i agree..

but those were the main factors...

and i'll stop when u stop trying to pretend that what he said is an issue

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:29 PM
OCT 11th Menu Thread (/forums/1472665/ShowThread.aspx#1472665)

Tell me what you guys wanna eat and such, cause the game is right around the corner and we need to get some planning and organizing in order

Matt you still grabbin a keg???


yea i guess i mean if everyone is bringing something

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:33 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:34 PM
bud

Kase-1
09-30-2009, 01:35 PM
OCT 11th Menu Thread (/forums/1472665/ShowThread.aspx#1472665)

Tell me what you guys wanna eat and such, cause the game is right around the corner and we need to get some planning and organizing in order

Matt you still grabbin a keg???


yea i guess i mean if everyone is bringing something


Well thats why I made the thread so we can decide what everyone is bringing or if everyone just wants to throw loot and have 2 or so people get most of the stuff...... I dunno we'll toss around a few ideas, but I gotta head 2 work Ill be on around 10ish NY Time

...Discuss amongst yourselves
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:j8z36zAom_nS9M:http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/04/arts/SNL190.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/04/arts/SNL190.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/arts/television/04snl.html&amp;usg=__BaFGJzjpGq2yfsqARMwVKx85ppo=&amp;h=24 0&amp;w=190&amp;sz=19&amp;hl=en&amp;start=3&amp;tbnid=j8z36zAom_nS9M:&amp; tbnh=110&amp;tbnw=87&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmike%2Bmyers%2Bsnl%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3De n)

JPizzack
09-30-2009, 01:35 PM
i made my valuable contribution to the menu thread, Kase

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:39 PM
bud

ill be there dont worry [;)]

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 01:39 PM
bud This is the most important...right up there with ticket.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:40 PM
OCT 11th Menu Thread (/forums/1472665/ShowThread.aspx#1472665)

Tell me what you guys wanna eat and such, cause the game is right around the corner and we need to get some planning and organizing in order

Matt you still grabbin a keg???


yea i guess i mean if everyone is bringing something


Well thats why I made the thread so we can decide what everyone is bringing or if everyone just wants to throw loot and have 2 or so people get most of the stuff...... I dunno we'll toss around a few ideas, but I gotta head 2 work Ill be on around 10ish NY Time

...Discuss amongst yourselves
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:j8z36zAom_nS9M:http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/04/arts/SNL190.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/04/arts/SNL190.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/arts/television/04snl.html&amp;usg=__BaFGJzjpGq2yfsqARMwVKx85ppo=&amp;h=24 0&amp;w=190&amp;sz=19&amp;hl=en&amp;start=3&amp;tbnid=j8z36zAom_nS9M:&amp; tbnh=110&amp;tbnw=87&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmike%2Bmyers%2Bsnl%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3De n)


lol alrite

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 01:41 PM
Slatons already going to Daven bandy if he accepts. Whats the deal ?? talk to me....

I proposed Julis Jones, Cadillac and Hester

4 Slaton, Brown and Eddie Royal...

Daven has couyntered and I am thinking of re-countering.

Kase-1
09-30-2009, 01:44 PM
bud

ill be there dont worry [;)]
LOL dont worry your with BIG SMOKE DOGG!!!!
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:JOttEM_a7WRqRM:http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/nnnnnNicol/thecult/FridaySmokey.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/nnnnnNicol/thecult/FridaySmokey.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://themoviecult.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/article-top-5-of-slacker-cinema/&amp;usg=__9qe7qMIqB6QPtYo4KbYTd3flv8w=&amp;h=297&amp;w=300&amp;sz =54&amp;hl=en&amp;start=1&amp;tbnid=JOttEM_a7WRqRM:&amp;tbnh=115&amp;t bnw=116&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchis%2Btucker%2Bsmokey%26gbv%3D2%26hl %3Den)
WOOF!!

Im sure MMB remembers how me, my buddy, and Gshep were burnin it down like the Watts Riots at the Draft Party.... Cause MMB didnt have his big boy pants and couldnt hang with the BIG DOGGS, LOL

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 01:46 PM
ight we neeeed
</p>


keg- this is the most important. </p>


paper plates</p>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</p>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</p>


grills</p>


tables</p>


lots of red cups for pong</p>


beer</p>


hard stuff</p>


giants gear</p>


tickets!!!!!!</p>


</p>
What about the weed?

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 01:46 PM
busy day today I can't go thorugh 12 pages...What did I miss in the morning...Daven I have to get more value for Slaton.

Maybe I'll just keep him.

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 01:47 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


*</P>

I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 01:47 PM
Is Matt still claiming TO never said anything about his QB....oh wait, I mean never said anything "That bad" about his QB? or is he changing it to, if someone else said that it would be a big deal?

it's hard to keep up with him since all he does is twist twist twist....he can't stay on topic.

point is TO talked Negatively about Trent Edwards.

in my opinion (and Dez and MANY others) that's taking a shot, Calling out, Throwing under the bus whatever you want to call it, so when dezz asked if TO called Trent out and MMB said no, he wasn't telling the truth, or he just didn't know what happened no big deal, he just can't admit he's wrong.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:49 PM
okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times


IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831

You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.

I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.

Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:50 PM
bud

ill be there dont worry [;)]
LOL dont worry your with BIG SMOKE DOGG!!!!
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:JOttEM_a7WRqRM:http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/nnnnnNicol/thecult/FridaySmokey.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/nnnnnNicol/thecult/FridaySmokey.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://themoviecult.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/article-top-5-of-slacker-cinema/&amp;usg=__9qe7qMIqB6QPtYo4KbYTd3flv8w=&amp;h=297&amp;w=300&amp;sz =54&amp;hl=en&amp;start=1&amp;tbnid=JOttEM_a7WRqRM:&amp;tbnh=115&amp;t bnw=116&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchis%2Btucker%2Bsmokey%26gbv%3D2%26hl %3Den)
WOOF!!

Im sure MMB remembers how me, my buddy, and Gshep were burnin it down like the Watts Riots at the Draft Party.... Cause MMB didnt have his big boy pants and couldnt hang with the BIG DOGGS, LOL


hey blondie cut my night short, what can i do... i was out there with you lol

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 01:50 PM
looks like I missed a BIG MMB vs. Daven argument.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 01:51 PM
Maybe I'll just keep him.
Wow, there is a thought. [;)]

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:52 PM
looks like I missed a BIG MMB vs. Daven argument.

u didn't miss much.. same ol same ol..

meyerbud: truth
daven: bull****, backtracking, crying, ignorance

just another day in oct 11th thread

more points for MMB

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 01:53 PM
I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense.

no you just denied that he talked about Trent Edwards at all, saying all he did was talk about <font color="#0000ff" size="5">"PLAYCALLING"</font>

This quote....

<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">"As I said earlier, there were some opportunities that we missed, and those are some of the things you're talking about. </font></font><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there and take some shots down the field."</font></font>

has nothing to do with Playcalling, it only has to do with TO saying Trent Edwards has to play better....and to me, a WR saying his QB needs to play better is exactly what taking a shot at or calling out means....it's a perfect example.
</span>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:55 PM
I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense.

no you just denied that he talked about Trent Edwards at all, saying all he did was talk about <font color="#0000ff" size="5">"PLAYCALLING"</font>

This quote....

<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">"As I said earlier, there were some opportunities that we missed, and those are some of the things you're talking about. </font></font><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there and take some shots down the field."</font></font>

has nothing to do with Playcalling, it only has to do with TO saying Trent Edwards has to play better....and to me, a WR saying his QB needs to play better is exactly what taking a shot at or calling out means....it's a perfect example.
</span>

okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times


IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831

You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.

I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.

Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 01:55 PM
looks like I missed a BIG MMB vs. Daven argument.

not a big argument, just MMB not recognizing what he said and constantly changing his argument.

simplified, MMB said TO didn't say anything about Trent Edwards, I pulled up a quote showing he did....

MMB decided...what the quote said 'Wasn't that bad" so I was wrong lol.

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 01:58 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 01:59 PM
looks like I missed a BIG MMB vs. Daven argument.

not a big argument, just MMB not recognizing what he said and constantly changing his argument.

simplified, MMB said TO didn't say anything about Trent Edwards, I pulled up a quote showing he did....

MMB decided...what the quote said 'Wasn't that bad" so I was wrong lol.



okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times


IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831

You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.

I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.

Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 01:59 PM
people think im joking about the twins in bikinis dancing on pickups. at least consider it

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:00 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>i finally get to say whats cookin good looking and mean every word!!

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 02:01 PM
bud

ill be there dont worry [;)]
LOL dont worry your with BIG SMOKE DOGG!!!!
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:JOttEM_a7WRqRM:http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/nnnnnNicol/thecult/FridaySmokey.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/nnnnnNicol/thecult/FridaySmokey.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://themoviecult.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/article-top-5-of-slacker-cinema/&amp;usg=__9qe7qMIqB6QPtYo4KbYTd3flv8w=&amp;h=297&amp;w=300&amp;sz =54&amp;hl=en&amp;start=1&amp;tbnid=JOttEM_a7WRqRM:&amp;tbnh=115&amp;t bnw=116&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchis%2Btucker%2Bsmokey%26gbv%3D2%26hl %3Den)
WOOF!!

Im sure MMB remembers how me, my buddy, and Gshep were burnin it down like the Watts Riots at the Draft Party.... Cause MMB didnt have his big boy pants and couldnt hang with the BIG DOGGS, LOL


hey blondie cut my night short, what can i do... i was out there with you lol
</P>


lol yeah he left me passed out in the bathroom to smoke with you! lmao</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:01 PM
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-davenworld.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-cowdaven.jpg

just incase u forget, i own dat ***

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:02 PM
people think im joking about the twins in bikinis dancing on pickups. at least consider it The little cutie you POSTED a while back would look good in a bikini...lol.</P>


Can she dance ???</P>

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 02:03 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>


i finally get to say whats cookin good looking and mean every word!!</P>


i think the cake is a definate.. i mean its like NEEDED for a giants game.. lol plus my decorating skills make it very festive... the other thing i can make is maybe like a spinach dip... (i HATE spinach... but dont knock it til you try it... **** is on pointtttttt!!!) or pasta salad you guys tell me!</P>


</P>


look what just got dropped off to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:D]</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/oct11.jpg</P>

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:03 PM
people think im joking about the twins in bikinis dancing on pickups. at least consider it
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zVlbF0IrtMA/R9QKD28tVdI/AAAAAAAAAsQ/-kGybmqva7U/s400/fat_girls.jpg

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:06 PM
ight we neeeed
</p>


keg- this is the most important. </p>


paper plates</p>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</p>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</p>


grills</p>


tables</p>


lots of red cups for pong</p>


beer</p>


hard stuff</p>


giants gear</p>


tickets!!!!!!</p>


</p>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</p>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</p>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</p>


i finally get to say whats cookin good looking and mean every word!!</p>


i think the cake is a definate.. i mean its like NEEDED for a giants game.. lol plus my decorating skills make it very festive... the other thing i can make is maybe like a spinach dip... (i HATE spinach... but dont knock it til you try it... **** is on pointtttttt!!!) or pasta salad you guys tell me!</p>


</p>


look what just got dropped off to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:D]</p>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/oct11.jpg</p>

TACO DIP!!!!!

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:06 PM
people think im joking about the twins in bikinis dancing on pickups. at least consider it The little cutie you POSTED a while back would look good in a bikini...lol.</P>


Can she dance ???</P>


</P>


lmao i havnt seen that slammin slut in months. wow that brought back some memories lol. shes the only chick in the world that makes me nervous. i hate it. herd shes going out with some "ufc fighter" now. whaaaateva. im still getting mine in the 09[;)]</P>

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:08 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>


i finally get to say whats cookin good looking and mean every word!!</P>


i think the cake is a definate.. i mean its like NEEDED for a giants game.. lol plus my decorating skills make it very festive... the other thing i can make is maybe like a spinach dip... (i HATE spinach... but dont knock it til you try it... **** is on pointtttttt!!!) or pasta salad you guys tell me!</P>


</P>


look what just got dropped off to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:D]</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/oct11.jpg</P>


Im sure the cake is delish. Nothing like tickets in hand.</P>


#75- who is that ? Is that George Martin ?</P>


Looks like Sean Landetta</P>


Not sure who the other guy is...</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:09 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>


i finally get to say whats cookin good looking and mean every word!!</P>


i think the cake is a definate.. i mean its like NEEDED for a giants game.. lol plus my decorating skills make it very festive... the other thing i can make is maybe like a spinach dip... (i HATE spinach... but dont knock it til you try it... **** is on pointtttttt!!!) or pasta salad you guys tell me!</P>


</P>


look what just got dropped off to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:D]</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/oct11.jpg</P>spinach dip is bomb. plus creamed spinach is pretty good too but not for gameday.

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 02:09 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>


i finally get to say whats cookin good looking and mean every word!!</P>


i think the cake is a definate.. i mean its like NEEDED for a giants game.. lol plus my decorating skills make it very festive... the other thing i can make is maybe like a spinach dip... (i HATE spinach... but dont knock it til you try it... **** is on pointtttttt!!!) or pasta salad you guys tell me!</P>


</P>


look what just got dropped off to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:D]</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/oct11.jpg</P>




TACO DIP!!!!!
</P>


LMAO- you love my taco dip... yeah i can make that too but that literally takes less then 5 minutes to make. its soooooo good!</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:09 PM
people think im joking about the twins in bikinis dancing on pickups. at least consider it
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zVlbF0IrtMA/R9QKD28tVdI/AAAAAAAAAsQ/-kGybmqva7U/s400/fat_girls.jpg
</P>


God i hate you....... im serious!!!!!! amanda was almost down...</P>

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Hey MMB one question did TO talk negatively about Trent Edwards play this year?

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 02:10 PM
spinach dip is bomb. plus creamed spinach is pretty good too but not for gameday.</P>


yeah and its easy too</P>


OK count me in for a GIANTS CAKE, spinach dip and taco dip!</P>

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:11 PM
Shocks whats going on with the Slaton trade.

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 02:11 PM
people think im joking about the twins in bikinis dancing on pickups. at least consider it
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zVlbF0IrtMA/R9QKD28tVdI/AAAAAAAAAsQ/-kGybmqva7U/s400/fat_girls.jpg
</P>


God i hate you....... im serious!!!!!! amanda was almost down...</P>


</P>


i wanted it to be me and melissa but lando and matt wont approve LMAO</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:11 PM
Hey MMB one question did TO talk negatively about Trent Edwards play this year?



okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times





IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831



You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.



I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.



Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing



http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-davenworld.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-cowdaven.jpg

just incase u forget, i own dat ***

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:11 PM
From that qoute it looks to me like TO was throwing Trent under the bus guys...sorry Matt

It's the reason I satayed away from Owens in all my leagues and this is just going to get worse.

TO is RIGHT too ! Edwards is the WORST QB in the LEague !!!

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:12 PM
Shocks whats going on with the Slaton trade.


on hold I guess.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:12 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>


i finally get to say whats cookin good looking and mean every word!!</P>


i think the cake is a definate.. i mean its like NEEDED for a giants game.. lol plus my decorating skills make it very festive... the other thing i can make is maybe like a spinach dip... (i HATE spinach... but dont knock it til you try it... **** is on pointtttttt!!!) or pasta salad you guys tell me!</P>


</P>


look what just got dropped off to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:D]</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/oct11.jpg</P>




TACO DIP!!!!!
</P>


LMAO- you love my taco dip... yeah i can make that too but that literally takes less then 5 minutes to make. its soooooo good!</P>yo make this dip. take a block ofcream cheese spread it around the bottom of 2 inch deep plate, then take normal tostitos saulsa pour it over the cream cheese, then sprinkle it with maaaad chedda cheese and nuke it for 2 mins. easy and delishhhh

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:12 PM
Hey MMB one question did TO talk negatively about Trent Edwards play this year?

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:12 PM
you love my taco dip...its soooooo good!</p>
I don't even need to edit that one. [;)] LMAO

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:13 PM
Hey MMB one question did TO talk negatively about Trent Edwards play this year?




Give it up bro...

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:13 PM
and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them...

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:13 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


*</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>

I won't be bringing anything but Beer or Rye...sorry friends.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:14 PM
you love dip in my taco...its soooooo good!</p>
I don't even need to edit that one. [;)] LMAO


there ya go lolol

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:14 PM
From that qoute it looks to me like TO was throwing Trent under the bus guys...sorry Matt

It's the reason I satayed away from Owens in all my leagues and this is just going to get worse.

TO is RIGHT too ! Edwards is the WORST QB in the LEague !!!

Apparently because TO is right that makes it ok.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:15 PM
i wanted it to be me and melissa but lando and matt wont approve LMAO</p>
I approve, my wife can do whatever the hell she wants. She is her own woman. Might be cold though. lol

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:16 PM
Matt and Landon- just sent you guys Bobs retirement.</P>


Make sure your baked when you guys check that one out..</P>


I thought of Morehead on that one...lol.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:16 PM
From that qoute it looks to me like TO was throwing Trent under the bus guys...sorry Matt

It's the reason I satayed away from Owens in all my leagues and this is just going to get worse.

TO is RIGHT too ! Edwards is the WORST QB in the LEague !!!

Apparently because TO is right that makes it ok.


okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times





IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831



You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.



I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.



Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing



http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-davenworld.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-cowdaven.jpg

just incase u forget, i own dat ***

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:16 PM
Hey MMB one question did TO talk negatively about Trent Edwards play this year?




Give it up bro...


I have given up that's why I keep posting the same question, because that's all there is to say, he said he didn't before I provided a quote showing he did, he won't answer the question because if he did he'd be forcedto admit he was wrong before.

simply by his refusal to answer the question he continues to lose.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:17 PM
From that qoute it looks to me like TO was throwing Trent under the bus guys...sorry Matt

It's the reason I satayed away from Owens in all my leagues and this is just going to get worse.

TO is RIGHT too ! Edwards is the WORST QB in the LEague !!!

Apparently because TO is right that makes it ok.

It only looks that way because it is TO. Like we all agree, if it was Lee Evans no one would have heard about it...

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:17 PM
ight we neeeed
</P>


keg- this is the most important. </P>


paper plates</P>


untensiles(no idea how to spell that one) forks knives spoons</P>


pickup trucks with twins in bikinis - this is also the most important</P>


grills</P>


tables</P>


lots of red cups for pong</P>


beer</P>


hard stuff</P>


giants gear</P>


tickets!!!!!!</P>


*</P>


I like the sounds of all that stuff !!!</P>


should i make one of my famous NYG cakes? i can also make something else just let me know..</P>


we need to def get down who is bringing waht... DEF whos brining a grill!</P>


i finally get to say whats cookin good looking and mean every word!!</P>


i think the cake is a definate.. i mean its like NEEDED for a giants game.. lol plus my decorating skills make it very festive... the other thing i can make is maybe like a spinach dip... (i HATE spinach... but dont knock it til you try it... **** is on pointtttttt!!!) or pasta salad you guys tell me!</P>


*</P>


look what just got dropped off to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! [:D]</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/oct11.jpg</P>


Those tix look beautiful to me !!!

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:17 PM
Hey MMB one question did TO talk negatively about Trent Edwards play this year?

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:18 PM
Matt and Landon- just sent you guys Bobs retirement.</p>


Make sure your baked when you guys check that one out..</p>


I thought of Morehead on that one...lol.</p>
Will do, thanks

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:18 PM
Hey MMB one question did TO talk negatively about Trent Edwards play this year?




Give it up bro...


I have given up that's why I keep posting the same question, because that's all there is to say, he said he didn't before I provided a quote showing he did, he won't answer the question because if he did he'd be forcedto admit he was wrong before.

simply by his refusal to answer the question he continues to lose.


actually i did answer... but u've claimed many things that i've said or done and backtracked on, ur refusal to read this post is fine, but i'll just keep posting it non stop





okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times





IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831



You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.



I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.



Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing



http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-davenworld.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-cowdaven.jpg

just incase u forget, i own dat ***

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:19 PM
i wanted it to be me and melissa but lando and matt wont approve LMAO</P>
I approve, my wife can do whatever the hell she wants. She is her own woman. Might be cold though. lol
awesome! whos gotta pickup? lmao

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:19 PM
From that qoute it looks to me like TO was throwing Trent under the bus guys...sorry Matt

It's the reason I satayed away from Owens in all my leagues and this is just going to get worse.

TO is RIGHT too ! Edwards is the WORST QB in the LEague !!!

Apparently because TO is right that makes it ok.

It only looks that way because it is TO. Like we all agree, if it was Lee Evans no one would have heard about it...


It would be out of line no matter who said, it, it wouldn't have been as big a deal though because Lee Evans lacks prior history.

it's all besides the point though, this is just MMB's faux argument to distract from his original incorrect statement.

MMB said TO was talking about PLAYCALLING not Trent edwards...clearly he was wrong, I provided the quote, MMB loses.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:20 PM
and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them...

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:21 PM
From that qoute it looks to me like TO was throwing Trent under the bus guys...sorry Matt

It's the reason I satayed away from Owens in all my leagues and this is just going to get worse.

TO is RIGHT too ! Edwards is the WORST QB in the LEague !!!

Apparently because TO is right that makes it ok.

It only looks that way because it is TO. Like we all agree, if it was Lee Evans no one would have heard about it...


It would be out of line no matter who said, it, it wouldn't have been as big a deal though because Lee Evans lacks prior history.

it's all besides the point though, this is just MMB's faux argument to distract from his original incorrect statement.

MMB said TO was talking about PLAYCALLING not Trent edwards...clearly he was wrong, I provided the quote, MMB loses.


i can hit copy and paste all day if u want to misqoute me and disregard ur lack of reading comprehension in this topic...

either way i still own dat ***


okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times





IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831



You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.



I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.



Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing



http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-davenworld.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-cowdaven.jpg

just incase u forget, i own dat ***

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:22 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:22 PM
getting close to 2100...lol

Slaton stays everyone . for this week....lol

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:24 PM
getting close to 2100...lol

Slaton stays everyone . for this week....lol

lol that's what you said last week, but as long as your undefeated I guess it's reasonable to keep the same team together.

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:24 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ?


Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though.

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:24 PM
getting close to 2100...lol Slaton stays everyone . for this week....lol Whats up with Forte ??

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:24 PM
getting close to 2100...lol

Slaton stays everyone . for this week....lol

lol that's what you said last week.


He's still there isn't he ?

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:25 PM
<FONT size=5><FONT color=#0000ff>and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </FONT></FONT>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:25 PM
getting close to 2100...lol Slaton stays everyone . for this week....lol Whats up with Forte ??

He's very happy playing for Shocks team...I don't see how he could be moved...maybe in a deal with Bandy but other than that he stays.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:26 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ?


Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though.
Bowe for Clark is still there?

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:27 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw...

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:27 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.



again no commenting on an obviously bad performance is not talking engative. Saying he has to do a better job at it next time is not talking negatively. Your wrong again.

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:28 PM
getting close to 2100...lol Slaton stays everyone . for this week....lol Whats up with Forte ?? He's very happy playing for Shocks team...I don't see how he could be moved...maybe in a deal with Bandy but other than that he stays.Just checking..His happiness is very important to me...lol.

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:29 PM
getting close to 2100...lol

Slaton stays everyone . for this week....lol

lol that's what you said last week.


He's still there isn't he ?
yes he is!

I meant it more like, you keep shopping him and keep end up with him by the end of the week...eventually he IS going to have a good game, you may as well wait for that and then shop him instead of shopping him every week only to draw him back heh.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:30 PM
people.......amaze me. lol</P>


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Worth-a-second-look-DeShawn-Stevenson-s-new-tat;_ylt=Av.PcjCM65Opb4K1w5buTmk5nYcB?urn=nba,1928 36</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:30 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 02:31 PM
bandy PM

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:31 PM
ohhhh noo. look at this **** matt. haha</P>


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-knoblauch-assaultarrest&amp;prov=ap&amp;type=lgns</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:33 PM
<FONT size=5><FONT color=#0000ff>and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </FONT></FONT>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:34 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement


is it my place to walk in on your job and tell you your the reason the break pads failed...?

(rhetorical question I know you have trouble with those.)

No it's not my place to do so, just as it isn't TO's place to publicly say Trent Edwards isn't doing his job correctly either....it doesn't happen, only "Diva's" say something like that, TO's made a habit of it during his career.

so yeah, it's being blown out of proportion because it was "TO" and not Lee Evans, that still doesn't make it right....and it's still not about PLAYCALLING as you claimed it was.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:34 PM
ohhhh noo. look at this **** matt. haha</p>


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-knoblauch-assaultarrest&amp;prov=ap&amp;type=lgns</p>

must of been the juice lol

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:36 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ?


Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though.
Bowe for Clark is still there?



I thought it was there last time too....But when I made a fair offer it was soundly REJECTED ...lol

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:36 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

LOL no im just realistic. If something performed bad weather it be the way i was seeing the field or making my break pad and someone said i needed to pick it up, why the **** would i get mad.

And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:38 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though.
Bowe for Clark is still there?
I thought it was there last time too....But when I made a fair offer it was soundly REJECTED ...lol I am starting to think he stole lolipops from kids in his younger days...lol.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:38 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement


is it my place to walk in on your job and tell you your the reason the break pads failed...?

(rhetorical question I know you have trouble with those.)

No it's not my place to do so, just as it isn't TO's place to publicly say Trent Edwards isn't doing his job correctly either....it doesn't happen, only "Diva's" say something like that, TO's made a habit of it during his career.

so yeah, it's being blown out of proportion because it was "TO" and not Lee Evans, that still doesn't make it right....and it's still not about PLAYCALLING as you claimed it was.



okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times





IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831



You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.



I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.



Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing



http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-davenworld.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-cowdaven.jpg

just incase u forget, i own dat ***

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:40 PM
<FONT size=5><FONT color=#0000ff>and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </FONT></FONT>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

LOL no im just realistic. If something performed bad weather it be the way i was seeing the field or making my break pad and someone said i needed to pick it up, why the **** would i get mad.

And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument
cause your busting your ***(talking all day on giants.com) and along comes this ******* telling you your not doing it right or good enough

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:40 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw...


I am going with Flacco @ New England !!!

Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ?

Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 02:40 PM
Whats the argument?</P>


I want in on it.</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:41 PM
what do you mean "annoying" i never said that

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:42 PM
And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument

football's a team sport, I know hard for some people to realize.

so, when the passing game is struggling it's EVERYONES fault, Trents fault Lee Evan's Fault T.O.'s fault, the OC's fault...all of them.

to only mention that Trent needs to improve is throwing him under the buss...he should have said WE ALL NEED TO IMPROVE.

just as your company needs to improve it's break pad performance.

if it was your fault, then PRIVATELY someone can mention it to you, not to the mass media though.

bandwgn86
09-30-2009, 02:43 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! <FONT color=#0000ff>Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season</FONT>...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol</P>


but yet you are unwilling to trade him to me.. you suck sir! [;)]</P>

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:44 PM
Whats the argument?</P>


I want in on it.</P>

As far as I can tell Daven is saying that T.O. was talking **** and throwing Trent under the bus and Matt says that what Owens said was more of a constuctive criticism type thing than **** talk.

I gotta go with Daven but I agree with To anyway....so I dunno.

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:44 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol Starting Flacco is blatant disrespect for my team...lol.</P>


I saw your post regarding that trade, and trading AP is very risky..as i said, i would like to see the rest of your team..</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:45 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

LOL no im just realistic. If something performed bad weather it be the way i was seeing the field or making my break pad and someone said i needed to pick it up, why the **** would i get mad.

And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument
cause your busting your ***(talking all day on giants.com) and along comes this ******* telling you your not doing it right or good enough

piss off/annoy - same ****.

Dude, if someone told me I had to do a better job at it, i would more than likely know it already, hence it would not piss me off.

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:45 PM
Whats the argument?</p>


I want in on it.</p>

Dezz asked if T.O. called Trent out, MMB said he was only talking about playcalling, I found this quote...

<font color="#0000ff">"As I said earlier, there were some opportunities that we missed, and
those are some of the things you're talking about. It's always a work
in progress, and Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."
</font>
proving that not to be the case, since he specifically mentions Trents performance.

Then Matt claimed that that's not calling someone out, so then the discussion turned into is that or is that not calling someone out.

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 02:45 PM
Whats the argument?</P>


I want in on it.</P>


As far as I can tell Daven is saying that T.O. was talking **** and throwing Trent under the bus and Matt says that what Owens said was more of a constuctive criticism type thing than **** talk. I gotta go with Daven but I agree with To anyway....so I dunno.</P>


What did TO say?</P>

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:47 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! <FONT color=#0000ff>Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season</FONT>...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol</P>


but yet you are unwilling to trade him to me.. you suck sir! [;)]</P>


Your offers always...ALWAYS involve Trent...( who I would sooner realease off my team than give him a spot on the bench )

Nate Burleson...lmao- c'mon Bandy I think u just make thos e offers to get a laugh out of me cause they are RIDICULOUS....!

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 02:47 PM
Whats the argument?</P>


I want in on it.</P>


I had a funny feeling you were going to try to get Freddy back after last week...</P>


Dont feel bad- Lando stole the french guy from me..by a lousy point....</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:48 PM
And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument

football's a team sport, I know hard for some people to realize.

so, when the passing game is struggling it's EVERYONES fault, Trents fault Lee Evan's Fault T.O.'s fault, the OC's fault...all of them.

to only mention that Trent needs to improve is throwing him under the buss...he should have said WE ALL NEED TO IMPROVE.

just as your company needs to improve it's break pad performance.

if it was your fault, then PRIVATELY someone can mention it to you, not to the mass media though.


lol a QB who misses opportunities to hit receivers deep because hes not making the right reads is not on anybody but the QB.

Well thats why the breakpad thing was stupid because theres alot more going into making a break bad from design to production and parts and all of that...

to compare that to a QB having time, missing oppurtunities is just dumb, because its nothing alike... but again the stretching continues for the anti-to crowd

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:49 PM
What did TO say?
<font color="#0000ff">
"As I said earlier, there were some opportunities that we missed, and
those are some of the things you're talking about. It's always a work
in progress, and Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."

<font color="#000000">It's subjective you may or may not call that "calling someone out" I get that, but clearly it's got nothing to do with Playcalling as MMB suggested it did.</font>
</font>

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:49 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ?


Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though.
Bowe for Clark is still there?



I thought it was there last time too....But when I made a fair offer it was soundly REJECTED ...lol
That was then, this is now.

Slaton and Clark

for

Lynch and Bowe

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:50 PM
Whats the argument?</p>


I want in on it.</p>


As far as I can tell Daven is saying that T.O. was talking **** and throwing Trent under the bus and Matt says that what Owens said was more of a constuctive criticism type thing than **** talk. I gotta go with Daven but I agree with To anyway....so I dunno.</p>


What did TO say?</p>

“We missed some chances against New England. There’s always room
for improvement. Trent needs to assess what he has in front of him a
little better. I like how we played until those last five minutes, and
Trent did a great job of managing the game, although we could take more
shots down field, utilizing Lee’s and my own abilities.”


LOLOL apparently thats throwing teammates under the bus?

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:51 PM
<FONT size=5><FONT color=#0000ff>and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </FONT></FONT>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

LOL no im just realistic. If something performed bad weather it be the way i was seeing the field or making my break pad and someone said i needed to pick it up, why the **** would i get mad.

And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument
cause your busting your ***(talking all day on giants.com) and along comes this ******* telling you your not doing it right or good enough

piss off/annoy - same ****.

Dude, if someone told me I had to do a better job at it, i would more than likely know it already, hence it would not piss me off.
lmao oh man, well the pissed off im talking about is anger. matt look at the guy you hate most at work. think what you would do to him if he said you need to do a better job....it would anger you. especially someone in his first year with the company. yes hes a professional at what he does but to come into a new campany and start calling out people who have been here.... you wouldnt be happy about it. no matter what way he ment it.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:51 PM
Dont feel bad- Lando stole the french guy from me..by a lousy point....</p>
What point?

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:52 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol Starting Flacco is blatant disrespect for my team...lol.</P>


I saw your post regarding that trade, and trading AP is very risky..as i said, i would like to see the rest of your team..</P>


hahahhahaha- PAts secondary is suspect Pats.

anyway my AMAZING $50 Team

@ QB- Kurt Warner- Ben Roethlisberger- Matt Stafford ( future ) and Matt Cassell ( BN )

@ RB- Adrian Peterson- Marion Barber- Donal Brown- Jamal Lewis ( may be cut ) - Larry Johnson ( may be cut )

@ WR- Roddy WHite- Santonio Holmes- D.Bowe- S.Smith (NYG ) - Donnie Avery ( BN)- Josh Morgan (BN) and Hakeem Nicks ( BN )

@ TE - Kellen WInslow- John Carlson

@ DST - NYG- NYJ

@ K- Neil Rackers and LAwerence Tynes


2 QB's play every week....3 RB's and 5 WR's...plus a TE and a DST and a K.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:52 PM
Whats the argument?</P>


I want in on it.</P>


As far as I can tell Daven is saying that T.O. was talking **** and throwing Trent under the bus and Matt says that what Owens said was more of a constuctive criticism type thing than **** talk. I gotta go with Daven but I agree with To anyway....so I dunno.</P>


What did TO say?</P>

“We missed some chances against New England. There’s always room for improvement. Trent needs to assess what he has in front of him a little better. I like how we played until those last five minutes, and Trent did a great job of managing the game, although we could take more shots down field, utilizing Lee’s and my own abilities.”


LOLOL apparently thats throwing teammates under the bus?
cough taking shots at trent cough

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:53 PM
I got Fred Taylor on the bench too....lol

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:53 PM
What did TO say?
<font color="#0000ff">
"As I said earlier, there were some opportunities that we missed, and
those are some of the things you're talking about. It's always a work
in progress, and Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."

<font color="#000000">It's subjective you may or may not call that "calling someone out" I get that, but clearly it's got nothing to do with Playcalling as MMB suggested it did.</font>
</font>

and Scrappy Doo keeps ignoring the same post i've posted 20 times thruout this thread so i'll be sure to post it again.. cuz it just shows his obvious attempt to troll








okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times





IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831



You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.



I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.



Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing



http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-davenworld.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lunapic-cowdaven.jpg

just incase u forget, i own dat ***

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:53 PM
Well thats why the breakpad thing was stupid because theres alot more going into making a break bad from design to production and parts and all of that...

to compare that to a QB having time, missing oppurtunities is just dumb, because its nothing alike... but again the stretching continues for the anti-to crowd


your missing the point, If you make a mistake at work your co-worker doesn't run straight to the Customer and say "It's Matt's Fault...he screwed it up" they say "WE" are sorry...meaning the entire company, no ONE person is at fault (even if it is only one persons fault) that same thing is SUPPOSED to happen on a football team, but with TO around it doesn't....

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:54 PM
I would do it if I was you Shock.

bandwgn86
09-30-2009, 02:55 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! <FONT color=#0000ff>Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season</FONT>...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol</P>


but yet you are unwilling to trade him to me.. you suck sir! [;)]</P>


Your offers always...ALWAYS involve Trent...( who I would sooner realease off my team than give him a spot on the bench ) Nate Burleson...lmao- c'mon Bandy I think u just make thos e offers to get a laugh out of me cause they are RIDICULOUS....!</P>


okay pal, i don't see anyone else knocking at your door for Rivers so keep himriding the bench..your good luck will come to an end..keep relying on Phillies D and Sproles to get you wins lol..and by the way Burleson (which was changed to Cotchery) is a step up from the wr's you got.. lol</P>

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:55 PM
Whats the argument?</P>


I want in on it.</P>


As far as I can tell Daven is saying that T.O. was talking **** and throwing Trent under the bus and Matt says that what Owens said was more of a constuctive criticism type thing than **** talk. I gotta go with Daven but I agree with To anyway....so I dunno.</P>


What did TO say?</P>


Daven can u pull that again ???

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Well thats why the breakpad thing was stupid because theres alot more going into making a break bad from design to production and parts and all of that...

to compare that to a QB having time, missing oppurtunities is just dumb, because its nothing alike... but again the stretching continues for the anti-to crowd


your missing the point, If you make a mistake at work your co-worker doesn't run straight to the Customer and say "It's Matt's Fault...he screwed it up" they say "WE" are sorry...meaning the entire company, no ONE person is at fault (even if it is only one persons fault) that same thing is SUPPOSED to happen on a football team, but with TO around it doesn't....
</P>


now if only you could see brandon marshall is just as bad lmaoo. hahaha</P>


i start ALLL the debates. hahaha</P>

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:57 PM
Whats the argument?</p>


I want in on it.</p>


As far as I can tell Daven is saying that T.O. was talking **** and throwing Trent under the bus and Matt says that what Owens said was more of a constuctive criticism type thing than **** talk. I gotta go with Daven but I agree with To anyway....so I dunno.</p>


What did TO say?</p>


Daven can u pull that again ???
<font color="#0000ff">
"As I said earlier, there were some opportunities that we missed, and
those are some of the things you're talking about. It's always a work
in progress, and Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."</font>

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 02:58 PM
now if only you could see brandon marshall is just as bad lmaoo. hahaha


i start ALLL the debates. hahaha</p>

Brandon Marshall is just as bad if not worse!

that doesn't mean I don't want him on my team Fantasy or otherwise, he's a GREAT Receiver, TO makes the bills better, even know, while he's complaining.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 02:58 PM
<font color="#0000ff">Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."</font>

Taking shots or stating facts Morehead?

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 02:59 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

LOL no im just realistic. If something performed bad weather it be the way i was seeing the field or making my break pad and someone said i needed to pick it up, why the **** would i get mad.

And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument
cause your busting your ***(talking all day on giants.com) and along comes this ******* telling you your not doing it right or good enough

piss off/annoy - same ****.

Dude, if someone told me I had to do a better job at it, i would more than likely know it already, hence it would not piss me off.
lmao oh man, well the pissed off im talking about is anger. matt look at the guy you hate most at work. think what you would do to him if he said you need to do a better job....it would anger you. especially someone in his first year with the company. yes hes a professional at what he does but to come into a new campany and start calling out people who have been here.... you wouldnt be happy about it. no matter what way he ment it.

u obviously have no idea what ur even arguing anymore. You went from saying TO threw his QB under the bus... to the fact taht he pissed off Edwards, which is so subjective.

Bro who cares if its first time iwth the company too. If somebody came in that was one of the best all time in his field and comes in and says that i need to do something better, if that pisses me off then im just immature and uptight.

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 02:59 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ?


Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though.
Bowe for Clark is still there?



I thought it was there last time too....But when I made a fair offer it was soundly REJECTED ...lol
That was then, this is now.

Slaton and Clark

for

Lynch and Bowe



Don't u got enough Colts on oyur team Lando ??

TBH I have lost a lot of interest in Bowe cause Cassell is not turning out to be the QB I htought he was...And F.Jackson may now be #1 in Buffalo.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 02:59 PM
now if only you could see brandon marshall is just as bad lmaoo. hahaha


i start ALLL the debates. hahaha</P>

Brandon Marshall is just as bad if not worse!

that doesn't mean I don't want him on my team Fantasy or otherwise, he's a GREAT Receiver, TO makes the bills better, even know, while he's complaining.
it all depends........lol

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:00 PM
<font color="#0000ff">Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."</font>

Taking shots or stating facts Morehead?


It can be BOTH Landon.

Even though he may be right, saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 03:01 PM
I would do it if I was you Shock.



Yeah I think I'm gonna accept it.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:02 PM
Whats the argument?</p>


I want in on it.</p>


As far as I can tell Daven is saying that T.O. was talking **** and throwing Trent under the bus and Matt says that what Owens said was more of a constuctive criticism type thing than **** talk. I gotta go with Daven but I agree with To anyway....so I dunno.</p>


What did TO say?</p>

“We missed some chances against New England. There’s always room for improvement. Trent needs to assess what he has in front of him a little better. I like how we played until those last five minutes, and Trent did a great job of managing the game, although we could take more shots down field, utilizing Lee’s and my own abilities.”


LOLOL apparently thats throwing teammates under the bus?
cough taking shots at trent cough

So as a team they missed chances

Everyone can improve

Trent needs to do something a lil better but he likes how they played and Trent did a great job managing the game.

They could take more shots down field (which is on play calling and gameplanning) for not only himself BUT ALSO Lee

---

Daven and Dezz both said it was a selfish, self promoting commment that threw his QB under the bus

it has now been broken down to a kind of negative comment that should anger trent lol

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:03 PM
"But [Sunday] as you saw, it was obviously ... [the media] took some
more than initiative to try to get me to kind of go down the wrong
path. I know the last two teams that I've been on, I felt like I left
those teams prematurely due to media interviews that I've done and
things kind of taken out of context and they created sort of a media
whirlwind in the locker room and things kind of went downhill from
there. <font color="#0000ff">I'm just trying to do the best job I can do as far as answering
the questions and trying to be a better teammate and not try to throw
people under the bus."</font>

"I know I can play this game at a high
level," Owens added during the interview. "We've just got to find some
ways to get myself and Lee [Evans] more involved in the offense. Our
run game is right where it needs to be. We just got to complement our
run game with the pass game."

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:03 PM
If somebody came in that was one of the best all time in his field and comes in and says that i need to do something better, if that pisses me off then im just immature and uptight.

AGREED but that's not whats happening here Matt, that guy isn't telling YOU you need to be better or your boss or your company, he's telling the Customer...and that's wrong.

Mistakes stay in the company (or team) you don't tell the Customer who specifically ****ed up, that is, unless that person is being disciplined or fired over it, and TO doesn't have the ability to do either to Edwards so he doesn't have the right to speak as he did during that interview, only the Coaches and Owners have the right to do that.

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 03:03 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! <FONT color=#0000ff>Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season</FONT>...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol</P>


but yet you are unwilling to trade him to me.. you suck sir! [;)]</P>


Your offers always...ALWAYS involve Trent...( who I would sooner realease off my team than give him a spot on the bench ) Nate Burleson...lmao- c'mon Bandy I think u just make thos e offers to get a laugh out of me cause they are RIDICULOUS....!</P>


okay pal, i don't see anyone else knocking at your door for Rivers so keep him*riding the bench..your good luck will come to an end..keep relying on Phillies D and Sproles to get you wins lol..**and by the way Burleson (which was changed to Cotchery) *is a step up from the wr's you got.. lol</P>


No need to get NASTY...Rivers will be playing from Week 6 right through til' the end.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:03 PM
<font color="#0000ff">Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."</font>

Taking shots or stating facts Morehead?


It can be BOTH Landon.

Even though he may be right, saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.


Just shows how bad ur trying ot be right on this... u ignore the same post i've posted 20 times and u just take one line out of a 4 sentence qoute to try and get ur way..

as always daven, i own dat ***

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:04 PM
F.Jackson may now be #1 in Buffalo.
Yeah...wait until Lynch scored 2 times this week. Then I will hit you back.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 03:04 PM
<FONT size=5><FONT color=#0000ff>and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </FONT></FONT>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

LOL no im just realistic. If something performed bad weather it be the way i was seeing the field or making my break pad and someone said i needed to pick it up, why the **** would i get mad.

And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument
cause your busting your ***(talking all day on giants.com) and along comes this ******* telling you your not doing it right or good enough

piss off/annoy - same ****.

Dude, if someone told me I had to do a better job at it, i would more than likely know it already, hence it would not piss me off.
lmao oh man, well the pissed off im talking about is anger. matt look at the guy you hate most at work. think what you would do to him if he said you need to do a better job....it would anger you. especially someone in his first year with the company. yes hes a professional at what he does but to come into a new campany and start calling out people who have been here.... you wouldnt be happy about it. no matter what way he ment it.

u obviously have no idea what ur even arguing anymore. You went from saying TO threw his QB under the bus... to the fact taht he pissed off Edwards, which is so subjective.

Bro who cares if its first time iwth the company too. If somebody came in that was one of the best all time in his field and comes in and says that i need to do something better, if that pisses me off then im just immature and uptight.


NOOOO i said he was taking a shot at trent. and yes i do know what im saying. if i was trent id be pissed cause TO just took a shot at me. i was trying to put you in trents shoes. but you failed. lol</P>


and no you know wouldnt. youd say to yourself "who the **** does this guy think he is. hes been here what 4, 5months??" and you know it. and it doesnt mean your immature and uptight. it means you care about your workespecially if you bust your *** which i believe every qb does. </P>

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:05 PM
So as a team they missed chances

Everyone can improve

Trent needs to do something a lil better but he likes how they played and Trent did a great job managing the game.

They could take more shots down field (which is on play calling and gameplanning) for not only himself BUT ALSO Lee

---

Daven and Dezz both said it was a selfish, self promoting commment that threw his QB under the bus

it has now been broken down to a kind of negative comment that should anger trent lol


that's ok because to begin with the real point of contention was that you said T.O. refused to talk about Trent and only talked about Playcalling, which I've proved to be incorrect FOREVER ago....all this other jive is just you twisting your argument, and I KNOW he refused to talk about trent in a LATER interview, that doesn't make the first one go away though.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:07 PM
If somebody came in that was one of the best all time in his field and comes in and says that i need to do something better, if that pisses me off then im just immature and uptight.

AGREED but that's not whats happening here Matt, that guy isn't telling YOU you need to be better or your boss or your company, he's telling the Customer...and that's wrong.

Mistakes stay in the company (or team) you don't tell the Customer who specifically ****ed up, that is, unless that person is being disciplined or fired over it, and TO doesn't have the ability to do either to Edwards so he doesn't have the right to speak as he did during that interview, only the Coaches and Owners have the right to do that.


again just taking a single line froma qoute and running with it?

First off this comparison is STUPID. The media is not the customer. There is nothing u can compare the medias place to in the break pad industry. AGain keep stretchying.

ANd read the whole qoute. It was an obvious statement, he didn't balme him for anything, and the next line was a qoute praising him

again ur full of **** and its proven


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just incase u forget, i own dat ***

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 03:07 PM
I saw the Cotchery offer Bandy that was closer but it still boils down to me giving RIvers, Slaton and I forget

4

Jackson and Cotch cause Trent would be cut.

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:09 PM
<font color="#0000ff">Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."</font>

Taking shots or stating facts Morehead?


It can be BOTH Landon.

Even though he may be right, saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.


Just shows how bad ur trying ot be right on this... u ignore the same post i've posted 20 times and u just take one line out of a 4 sentence qoute to try and get ur way..

as always daven, i own dat ***


I'm Ignoring that post because everything in it is Irrelevant, you said he refused to talk about trent and only talked about playcalling when Dezz asked you if TO called Trent out, that is incorrect, I provided the quote, you are already WRONG....undeniably, the more you continue to twist it around the closer to being right about OTHER arguments you are, but I'm not playing that game, you said he refused to talk about trent that's not true, he DID talk about trent, he refused to KEEP talking about him at a later time.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:10 PM
<font size="5"><font color="#0000ff">and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </font></font>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

LOL no im just realistic. If something performed bad weather it be the way i was seeing the field or making my break pad and someone said i needed to pick it up, why the **** would i get mad.

And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument
cause your busting your ***(talking all day on giants.com) and along comes this ******* telling you your not doing it right or good enough

piss off/annoy - same ****.

Dude, if someone told me I had to do a better job at it, i would more than likely know it already, hence it would not piss me off.
lmao oh man, well the pissed off im talking about is anger. matt look at the guy you hate most at work. think what you would do to him if he said you need to do a better job....it would anger you. especially someone in his first year with the company. yes hes a professional at what he does but to come into a new campany and start calling out people who have been here.... you wouldnt be happy about it. no matter what way he ment it.

u obviously have no idea what ur even arguing anymore. You went from saying TO threw his QB under the bus... to the fact taht he pissed off Edwards, which is so subjective.

Bro who cares if its first time iwth the company too. If somebody came in that was one of the best all time in his field and comes in and says that i need to do something better, if that pisses me off then im just immature and uptight.


NOOOO i said he was taking a shot at trent. and yes i do know what im saying. if i was trent id be pissed cause TO just took a shot at me. i was trying to put you in trents shoes. but you failed. lol</p>


and no you know wouldnt. youd say to yourself "who the **** does this guy think he is. hes been here what 4, 5months??" and you know it. and it doesnt mean your immature and uptight. it means you care about your workespecially if you bust your *** which i believe every qb does. </p>

false. U started saying TO threw him under the bus, i can bump ur post if u want.

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 03:10 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol Starting Flacco is blatant disrespect for my team...lol.</P>


I saw your post regarding that trade, and trading AP is very risky..as i said, i would like to see the rest of your team..</P>


hahahhahaha- PAts secondary is suspect Pats. anyway my AMAZING $50 Team @ QB- Kurt Warner- Ben Roethlisberger- Matt Stafford ( future ) and Matt Cassell ( BN ) @ RB- Adrian Peterson- Marion Barber- Donal Brown- Jamal Lewis ( may be cut ) - Larry Johnson ( may be cut ) @ WR- Roddy WHite- Santonio Holmes- D.Bowe- S.Smith (NYG ) - Donnie Avery ( BN)- Josh Morgan (BN) and Hakeem Nicks ( BN ) @ TE - Kellen WInslow- John Carlson @ DST - NYG- NYJ @ K- Neil Rackers and LAwerence Tynes 2 QB's play every week....3 RB's and 5 WR's...plus a TE and a DST and a K. Boy thats still tough...If you think Kurt will be healthy all year, probably not..</P>


If your team makes playoffs, depending on who AP is playing in those games, he can win you a championship practically on his own...</P>


If you have doubts about making playoffs or you dont think AP would be dominant in the playoffs, i would definatly pull the trigger..</P>


Keep in mind this is only my opinion, and i am 0-3...you are 3-0......lol.</P>

bandwgn86
09-30-2009, 03:10 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! <FONT color=#0000ff>Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season</FONT>...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol</P>


but yet you are unwilling to trade him to me.. you suck sir! [;)]</P>


Your offers always...ALWAYS involve Trent...( who I would sooner realease off my team than give him a spot on the bench ) Nate Burleson...lmao- c'mon Bandy I think u just make thos e offers to get a laugh out of me cause they are RIDICULOUS....!</P>


okay pal, i don't see anyone else knocking at your door for Rivers so keep himriding the bench..your good luck will come to an end..keep relying on Phillies D and Sproles to get you wins lol..and by the way Burleson (which was changed to Cotchery) is a step up from the wr's you got.. lol</P>


No need to get NASTY...Rivers will be playing from Week 6 right through til' the end.</P>


sorry i'm a little edgy lately..and your quote to me got me goin.. [{]</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:11 PM
<font color="#0000ff">Trent has to better assess what he's seeing out there
and take some shots down the field."</font>

Taking shots or stating facts Morehead?


It can be BOTH Landon.

Even though he may be right, saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.


Just shows how bad ur trying ot be right on this... u ignore the same post i've posted 20 times and u just take one line out of a 4 sentence qoute to try and get ur way..

as always daven, i own dat ***


I'm Ignoring that post because everything in it is Irrelevant, you said he refused to talk about trent and only talked about playcalling when Dezz asked you if TO called Trent out, that is incorrect, I provided the quote, you are already WRONG....undeniably, the more you continue to twist it around the closer to being right about OTHER arguments you are, but I'm not playing that game, you said he refused to talk about trent that's not true, he DID talk about trent, he refused to KEEP talking about him at a later time.


and thats why ur ignorant and wrong and can't admit it.

You ignore the truth and call it irrelevant. Its irrelevant to u cuz it destroys every points u've made




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DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:12 PM
First off this comparison is STUPID. The media is not the customer. There is nothing u can compare the medias place to in the break pad industry. AGain keep stretchying.

you don't like the comparison and think it's stupid because again it shows how wrong you are.....but to be honest.

the Media is the Middle Man, the media delivers the "Product" to the consumer.....so it'd kinda be like telling the UPS Driver that it was your fault, but only if the UPS Driver then told the Customer.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:13 PM
So as a team they missed chances

Everyone can improve

Trent needs to do something a lil better but he likes how they played and Trent did a great job managing the game.

They could take more shots down field (which is on play calling and gameplanning) for not only himself BUT ALSO Lee

---

Daven and Dezz both said it was a selfish, self promoting commment that threw his QB under the bus

it has now been broken down to a kind of negative comment that should anger trent lol


that's ok because to begin with the real point of contention was that you said T.O. refused to talk about Trent and only talked about Playcalling, which I've proved to be incorrect FOREVER ago....all this other jive is just you twisting your argument, and I KNOW he refused to talk about trent in a LATER interview, that doesn't make the first one go away though.







http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:13 PM
saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.

Which you could be right about, it was still not throwing him under the bus.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:15 PM
First off this comparison is STUPID. The media is not the customer. There is nothing u can compare the medias place to in the break pad industry. AGain keep stretchying.

you don't like the comparison and think it's stupid because again it shows how wrong you are.....but to be honest.

the Media is the Middle Man, the media delivers the "Product" to the consumer.....so it'd kinda be like telling the UPS Driver that it was your fault, but only if the UPS Driver then told the Customer.

yea but u just called the media the customer before..

how bout this... YOU figure out your analagy... have it make sense and get back to me... so far the media is the customer and the middle man and the ups lol

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:16 PM
depending on who AP is playing in those games, he can win you a championship practically on his own...</p>


If you have doubts about making playoffs or you dont think AP would be dominant in the playoffs, i would definatly pull the trigger..</p>

Peyton can do the same...Check the last 3 games for both of them.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:16 PM
saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.

Which you could be right about, it was still not throwing him under the bus.


end of story lol

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:17 PM
and thats why ur ignorant and wrong and can't admit it.

You ignore the truth and call it irrelevant. Its irrelevant to u cuz it destroys every points u've made

I'm not ignoring any "Truth" what you've said AFTER being wrong makes alot of sense, but since it's a subjective opinionated topic we are talking about there is no right or wrong.

but the arguments origin was the FACT that you told Dezz...T.O. Refused to talk about Trent Edwards and only talked about Playcalling.

THAT is not an opinionated, subjective topic, that is either right or wrong, and in this case you are wrong, T.O. may have refused to talk about Edwards LATER...but at first (after the NE game) he DID talk about Trent's play.

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:18 PM
saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.

Which you could be right about, it was still not throwing him under the bus.


end of story lol


Throwing a person under the bus is subjective, no one is really right or wrong about that, the only person so far who has been wrong is MMB, he claimed TO refused to talk about Trent and only talked about playcalling this year, that's not true, he did talk about trent, right after then NE game.

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:20 PM
Tough call but I have to say that T.O. needs to say that in private and not to the media. Its his subtle little way of saying "its someone else's fault, not mine". He did the same think with the repeated "We just ran the plays that were called". Its all an attempt to say in not so many words "get me the friggin ball". And still create the illusion that he's a team player.</P>


T.O. as usual, was throwing his teammates and coaches under the bus. Its more subtle than it used to be. But its the same result.</P>


But Idid friggin LOVE the hat.</P>

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:21 PM
yea but u just called the media the customer before..

I was skipping a step so people like you could understand it better, apparently your still having trouble, perhaps you need to do a better job reading and understanding what your read like Trent Edwards.


how bout this... YOU figure out your analagy... have it make sense and get back to me... so far the media is the customer and the middle man and the ups lol

Oh it makes perfect sense.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:21 PM
saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.

Which you could be right about, it was still not throwing him under the bus.


end of story lol


Throwing a person under the bus is subjective, no one is really right or wrong about that, the only person so far who has been wrong is MMB, he claimed TO refused to talk about Trent and only talked about playcalling this year, that's not true, he did talk about trent, right after then NE game.

Ok, are we done now?

ibleedblue85
09-30-2009, 03:22 PM
PM bandy

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:22 PM
But Idid friggin LOVE the hat.</p>
Me to. lol

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:23 PM
But Idid friggin LOVE the hat.

ME TOO.....I said that to my friend at the bar when they were showing the interview for the millionth time.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:23 PM
and thats why ur ignorant and wrong and can't admit it.

You ignore the truth and call it irrelevant. Its irrelevant to u cuz it destroys every points u've made

I'm not ignoring any "Truth" what you've said AFTER being wrong makes alot of sense, but since it's a subjective opinionated topic we are talking about there is no right or wrong.

but the arguments origin was the FACT that you told Dezz...T.O. Refused to talk about Trent Edwards and only talked about Playcalling.

THAT is not an opinionated, subjective topic, that is either right or wrong, and in this case you are wrong, T.O. may have refused to talk about Edwards LATER...but at first (after the NE game) he DID talk about Trent's play.




just because u left ur reading comprehension skills home today, thats ur own problem, not mine. Its your fault u misread what i was referring to and talking to.

You then brought up that qoute and its not throwing somebody under the bus, which u even admitted a page ago...

hence i win...

and if u would read that article which u've ignored as much as the post, u'd see i was right that TO didn't bring edwards up, ignored a question about him, and put it on the play calling.

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:24 PM
saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.

Which you could be right about, it was still not throwing him under the bus.


end of story lol


Throwing a person under the bus is subjective, no one is really right or wrong about that, the only person so far who has been wrong is MMB, he claimed TO refused to talk about Trent and only talked about playcalling this year, that's not true, he did talk about trent, right after then NE game.

Ok, are we done now?


I'd be fine to leave it there, but MMB is gonna come flying in saying how he wasn't wrong.

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:25 PM
yea but u just called the media the customer before..

I was skipping a step so people like you could understand it better, apparently your still having trouble, perhaps you need to do a better job reading and understanding what your read like Trent Edwards.


how bout this... YOU figure out your analagy... have it make sense and get back to me... so far the media is the customer and the middle man and the ups lol

Oh it makes perfect sense.
</P>


You trying to belittle people (besides being rude and innapropriate) is an ironic exercise.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:25 PM
yea but u just called the media the customer before..

I was skipping a step so people like you could understand it better, apparently your still having trouble, perhaps you need to do a better job reading and understanding what your read like Trent Edwards.


how bout this... YOU figure out your analagy... have it make sense and get back to me... so far the media is the customer and the middle man and the ups lol

Oh it makes perfect sense.


ahhh alrite so aka ur full of ****

u can't be the customer and hte delivery man lol, hence work out ur analagy and get back to em...

it makes perfect sense in DAVEN WORLD




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DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:26 PM
You then brought up that qoute and its not throwing somebody under the bus, which u even admitted a page ago...

see what I mean Landon, this is what he does lol.

Did I say it wasn't throwing someone under the buss Landon? no I said it was subjective.

either matt doesn't understand big words, or its HIS reading comprehension...not mine...that needs work.

reign your bromanc partner in Lando.

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:26 PM
But Idid friggin LOVE the hat.</P>



Me to. lol
</P>


Morehead would make that hat work. You know Christmas is coming people.</P>

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 03:27 PM
Should I play Sproles against the Steelers PAts ? Also Crayton got me 5 more points than T.O. this past week. My receivers still suckthough but there is really nothing I can do about that anymore...lessons learned for next season though. What are the other options ?? Something tells me the Steelers will make Rivers throw... I am going with Flacco @ New England !!! <FONT color=#0000ff>Rivers has yet to really impress me so far this season</FONT>...I was hoping for some Drew Brees type of numbers and performances...In other news in my $50.00 League I have my trigger finger on a deal to send Adrian Peterson to my Minnesota Fan friend for P.Manning, Brandon Jacobs and Felix Jones...what does everyone t hink about that ? Oh my friend gets Warner too....lol</P>


but yet you are unwilling to trade him to me.. you suck sir! [;)]</P>


Your offers always...ALWAYS involve Trent...( who I would sooner realease off my team than give him a spot on the bench ) Nate Burleson...lmao- c'mon Bandy I think u just make thos e offers to get a laugh out of me cause they are RIDICULOUS....!</P>


okay pal, i don't see anyone else knocking at your door for Rivers so keep himriding the bench..your good luck will come to an end..keep relying on Phillies D and Sproles to get you wins lol..and by the way Burleson (which was changed to Cotchery) is a step up from the wr's you got.. lol</P>


No need to get NASTY...Rivers will be playing from Week 6 right through til' the end.</P>


sorry i'm a little edgy lately..and your quote to me got me goin.. [{]</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


Tha's ok...The little ones up @ night can make parents edgey...I know bout that.</P>


</P>


Anyway Just for my Canadian counterpart and cause u need to get a W this week...</P>


</P>


I'll give u Rivers straight -up for Jackson ( think I'm tkaing bit of a hit )</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:28 PM
saying that to the mass media is plain wrong.

Which you could be right about, it was still not throwing him under the bus.


end of story lol


Throwing a person under the bus is subjective, no one is really right or wrong about that, the only person so far who has been wrong is MMB, he claimed TO refused to talk about Trent and only talked about playcalling this year, that's not true, he did talk about trent, right after then NE game.

Ok, are we done now?


I'd be fine to leave it there, but MMB is gonna come flying in saying how he wasn't wrong.


okay for daven and dezz im just going to sum this all up and just copy
and paste this full response everytime u guys say soemthing to me
about, cuz i've repeated EVERYTHING 20 times





IN THIS
FOLLOWING ARTICLE in which my original comments were directed to TO
does NOT only not mention Trend Edwards, but he avoids answering a
question in which was directed about Edwards. He would also go on to
say that the offense needs to get Evans and himself involved more. AKA
the playcalling and game planning.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4514831



You
guys brought up the assessment qoute, i do not consider that throwing
somebody under the bus, so hence when you said TO did, i naturally
disagreed.



I have also never denied TO was unhappy with his role
in the offense. I agree he has shown he is displeased, but it was done
in a professional way. I also agree that he SHOULD be displeased.



Whether
hes changed or not really has nothing to do with this argument. All I
can say about it is that so far hes done nothing that is reminiscent of
hte old TO and infact you've heard qoutes from him avoiding drama. So
hence if I had to say hes changed or not, i'd say that im leaning
towards the fact that he has changed, because you have never seen these
types of qoutes from him. BUT, i am not ignorant enough to think that
there is no *** he can crack, its just that he hasn't yet and the media
is trying to make soemthing out of nothing



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just incase u forget, i own dat ***

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:28 PM
But I make this hat work even better.</P>
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DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:28 PM
You trying to belittle people (besides being rude and innapropriate) is an ironic exercise.

It's not so much ironic as it is childish...I think you would agree...if you were being honest with yourself.

that said, I'm only returning the favor, his pictures are a higher degree of insult then anything I'm saying here are they not?

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:30 PM
You trying to belittle people (besides being rude and innapropriate) is an ironic exercise.

It's not so much ironic as it is childish...I think you would agree...if you were being honest with yourself.

that said, I'm only returning the favor, his pictures are a higher degree of insult then anything I'm saying here are they not?
</P>


Its actually a scream for help.</P>


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</P>

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 03:32 PM
<FONT size=5><FONT color=#0000ff>and no saying someone needs to do a better job at something is not talking negatively about them... </FONT></FONT>

talking negatively would say he sucks, how hte **** does he not see me open and bla bla bla...

that owuld be negative


for the second time daven


ahh didn't see that thought you were sticking with being wrong about one thing....I guess it's two now.

really the question is rhetorical, yes TO DID talk negatively about Trent Edwards playing, saying a QB needs to do his job better is talking negatively regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

not to reopen the issue which it already is, butif i walked into your job matt and said you need to make better break pads for planes. i might not think its negitive but you certainly would take it that way. correct??

if ur break pads just did not perform well in a test run, then no lol its not a negative thing, its actually an obvious statement
youd still be pissed or have a chip on your shoulder ifa fellow employeeCALLED you out about it, no? and if you say no your a liar. lmao. someone is putting your work into question of course it would piss you off

LOL no im just realistic. If something performed bad weather it be the way i was seeing the field or making my break pad and someone said i needed to pick it up, why the **** would i get mad.

And annoying Trent Edwards is not throwing him under the bus. Your now changing ur argument
cause your busting your ***(talking all day on giants.com) and along comes this ******* telling you your not doing it right or good enough

piss off/annoy - same ****.

Dude, if someone told me I had to do a better job at it, i would more than likely know it already, hence it would not piss me off.
lmao oh man, well the pissed off im talking about is anger. matt look at the guy you hate most at work. think what you would do to him if he said you need to do a better job....it would anger you. especially someone in his first year with the company. yes hes a professional at what he does but to come into a new campany and start calling out people who have been here.... you wouldnt be happy about it. no matter what way he ment it.

u obviously have no idea what ur even arguing anymore. You went from saying TO threw his QB under the bus... to the fact taht he pissed off Edwards, which is so subjective.

Bro who cares if its first time iwth the company too. If somebody came in that was one of the best all time in his field and comes in and says that i need to do something better, if that pisses me off then im just immature and uptight.


NOOOO i said he was taking a shot at trent. and yes i do know what im saying. if i was trent id be pissed cause TO just took a shot at me. i was trying to put you in trents shoes. but you failed. lol</P>


and no you know wouldnt. youd say to yourself "who the **** does this guy think he is. hes been here what 4, 5months??" and you know it. and it doesnt mean your immature and uptight. it means you care about your workespecially if you bust your *** which i believe every qb does. </P>

false. U started saying TO threw him under the bus, i can bump ur post if u want.

yea please. im pretty sure i never said that and if i did it was my mistake. my whole point is TO took a shot at trent. throwing him under the bus would be saying we lost cause he sucked.

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 03:32 PM
But I make this hat work even better.</P>
<DIV class=mediaContainer>http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/cazaman15/th_002-1.jpg</DIV> You look like a fine young man....however, the hat is gay.

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 03:33 PM
I'm out &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:33 PM
Its your fault u misread what i was referring to

you were answering a question YOU don't get to decide what you were referring to that's not how conversations work, you are supposed to be answering the question Dez asked, the point of reference what Dez's question.

which was about TO calling his QB out, I'm on the right track here not you, you are off in your own world.

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:34 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</p>

I &lt;3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</p>

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:35 PM
But I make this hat work even better.</p>
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LOL. That is awesome...

P.S. Love the stache

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:36 PM
You then brought up that qoute and its not throwing somebody under the bus, which u even admitted a page ago...

see what I mean Landon, this is what he does lol.

Did I say it wasn't throwing someone under the buss Landon? no I said it was subjective.

either matt doesn't understand big words, or its HIS reading comprehension...not mine...that needs work.

reign your bromanc partner in Lando.

You did say it was subjective. I am not getting in the middle anymore. Matt is making me a nice dinner tonight and has the handcuffs out so I don't want to ruin anything.

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:37 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</P>


I &lt;3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</P>


</P>


It has to be acknowledged that you're right here. It happens so infrequently.</P>

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:37 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</p>

I &lt;3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</p>
Out of line yes....

Under the bus figuratively or subjectively no...

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:38 PM
But I make this hat work even better.</P>
<DIV class=mediaContainer>http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/cazaman15/th_002-1.jpg</DIV>



LOL. That is awesome...

P.S. Love the stache
</P>


No more "Just For (old) Men" for me LandoLincoln.</P>

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:39 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</P>


I &lt;3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</P>



Out of line yes....

Under the bus figuratively or subjectively no...
</P>


He may not have thrown him under the bus, but he certainly tripped him in front of it while it was moving.</P>

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:39 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</p>

I &lt;3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</p>
Out of line yes....

Under the bus figuratively or subjectively no...


Subjective means that even though you may think no, I may think yes, that neither of us are right or wrong.

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:40 PM
But I make this hat work even better.</p>
<div class="mediaContainer">http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/cazaman15/th_002-1.jpg</div>



LOL. That is awesome...

P.S. Love the stache
</p>


No more "Just For (old) Men" for me LandoLincoln.</p>
Only question I have is where do we buy your porn video?

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:41 PM
for once im with daven on this. how many times has TO done this guys. why give hime the benifite of the the doubt or defend him. like i said if he said the same thing last year(which he did)*wed all be laughing. only this time it took him 2 games.....


daven was saying he threw him under the bus, hence u were agreeing

bigblue4417
09-30-2009, 03:41 PM
There is one thing we can all agree with about TO...

http://cdn1.gamepro.com/blogfaction/images/to_crying.gif

HE IS A *****!!!

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:42 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</p>


I &lt;3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</p>


</p>


It has to be acknowledged that you're right here. It happens so infrequently.</p>

but you know, this drama really has no impact what so ever on the field of play, noones performance is going to be altered due to this crap, and TO still makes Buffalo a better team.

dezzzR
09-30-2009, 03:43 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</P>


I &lt;3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</P>



Out of line yes....

Under the bus figuratively or subjectively no...
</P>


He may not have thrown him under the bus, but he certainly tripped him in front of it while it was moving.</P>hahahahaha. that mustache is murderous by the waylol

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:43 PM
But I make this hat work even better.</P>
<DIV class=mediaContainer>http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/cazaman15/th_002-1.jpg</DIV>



LOL. That is awesome...

P.S. Love the stache
</P>


No more "Just For (old) Men" for me LandoLincoln.</P>



Only question I have is where do we buy your porn video?
</P>


Which one?</P>

shocknaweny
09-30-2009, 03:43 PM
<FONT size=4>Offer sent Sir.</FONT>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:44 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</p>

I <3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</p>

lol i never said he wasn't out of line for talking to the media for it.. infact that has nothing to do with the fact that after this game he put it on the gameplan/play calling, he specifically avoided a question about Edwards, and the fact taht the comment u pulled is NOT throwing him under the bus.

Its funny you've forgotten what ur original point was

DavenIII
09-30-2009, 03:44 PM
for once im with daven on this. how many times has TO done this guys. why give hime the benifite of the the doubt or defend him. like i said if he said the same thing last year(which he did)wed all be laughing. only this time it took him 2 games.....


daven was saying he threw him under the bus, hence u were agreeing

throw him under the bus, call him out whatever you want to call it they all mean the same thing to me, what TO did was wrong, period.

that's why I mentioned these terms are subjective...what you consider thrown under the bus may or may not be considered so by someone else.

Dezz agrees with the overall claim that TO did something wrong, the degree of how wrong it is, is completely subjective, you can't say someone is or isn't "wrong" about that.

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:45 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</p>

I <3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</p>
Out of line yes....

Under the bus figuratively or subjectively no...


exactly

Morehead State
09-30-2009, 03:45 PM
Its actually a scream for help.


I hear ya' Daven......Its OK.</P>


I &lt;3 you Morehead and I'm glad to see you agree with my opinion that TO was out of line with his comments to the media.
</P>


lol i never said he wasn't out of line for talking to the media for it.. infact that has nothing to do with the fact that after this game he put it on the gameplan/play calling, he specifically avoided a question about Edwards, and the fact taht the comment u pulled is NOT throwing him under the bus. Its funny you've forgotten what ur original point was</P>


What was your original point. I'm dying to disagree with Daven.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-30-2009, 03:45 PM
for once im with daven on this. how many times has TO done this guys. why give hime the benifite of the the doubt or defend him. like i said if he said the same thing last year(which he did)*wed all be laughing. only this time it took him 2 games.....


daven was saying he threw him under the bus, hence u were agreeing

throw him under the bus, call him out whatever you want to call it they all mean the same thing to me, what TO did was wrong, period.

that's why I mentioned these terms are subjective...what you consider thrown under the bus may or may not be considered so by someone else.

Dezz agrees with the overall claim that TO did something wrong, the degree of how wrong it is, is completely subjective, you can't say someone is or isn't "wrong" about that.


and again saying somebody played a great game but needs to improve on something is not an attack, not throwing udner the bus, and not calling out...

patsrule666
09-30-2009, 03:46 PM
<FONT size=4>Offer sent Sir.</FONT> You said sir, so i know your not talking to me...