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DavenIII
03-03-2010, 11:51 AM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i'd say around 35, seeing as how hes been healthy and may be one of the best DEs to ever play the game... and im not being over the top, u'd be hard pressed to find a guy thats had a better career in their first 8 years....

because Strahan certainly didnt


He's one of the best, I agree, I know all about him, and I agree, he's awesome, I just don't agree that he'll as good as he has been his first 8 years, for the next 7, 5 or even 3 in my personal opinion.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 11:53 AM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 11:53 AM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


and strahan had a better second half career than first... just for the record

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 11:55 AM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles




Carolina was good back then.....
Giants were the epitome of mediocrity in Strahan's early career</p>


Not arguing he isn't good or anything.....I just wouldnt waste the money for more than 3 years....
i keep thinking about it, and i just cant justify it.....sorry to disappoint you!!!</p>

lol ur talkin out of ur *** man... u gotta learn the nfl contract game, then u'd be okay with it... its obvious u guys just dont know how it works or how the giants are... we have no problem cutting someone with a big contract if they aren't living up to it......

and i can't wait if this doesn't happen, we'll see what Osi will ask for in a couple of years

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 11:56 AM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles




Carolina was good back then.....
Giants were the epitome of mediocrity in Strahan's early career</p>


Not arguing he isn't good or anything.....I just wouldnt waste the money for more than 3 years....
i keep thinking about it, and i just cant justify it.....sorry to disappoint you!!!</p>

lol ur talkin out of ur *** man... u gotta learn the nfl contract game, then u'd be okay with it... its obvious u guys just dont know how it works or how the giants are... we have no problem cutting someone with a big contract if they aren't living up to it......

and i can't wait if this doesn't happen, we'll see what Osi will ask for in a couple of years

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 11:56 AM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles




Carolina was good back then.....
Giants were the epitome of mediocrity in Strahan's early career</p>


Not arguing he isn't good or anything.....I just wouldnt waste the money for more than 3 years....
i keep thinking about it, and i just cant justify it.....sorry to disappoint you!!!</p>

lol ur talkin out of ur *** man... u gotta learn the nfl contract game, then u'd be okay with it... its obvious u guys just dont know how it works or how the giants are... we have no problem cutting someone with a big contract if they aren't living up to it......

and i can't wait if this doesn't happen, we'll see what Osi will ask for in a couple of years

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 11:56 AM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 12:00 PM
Watch us get Peppers and Dansby...A guy can dream right?

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:00 PM
bottom line let this guy come in and be a force, which i'd have to say i'd put money on he would be, then all of your tunes would change....

then we prolly trade Osi for a first rounder or 2nd rounder. Getting young talent plus upgrading our most prized position while getting rid of a malcontent...

hard to say its abad move...

no cap this year, so i don't care about money. And if you think Osi isn't gonna hold out for a HUGE contract in a year or so then ur nuts.
</p>


dude SEVEN...7.....7 <font size="6">SEVEN YEARS</font></p>


no.....listen to yourself. He's 30....you dont offer that kinda money, and that kinda term to a 30 year old.
TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY</p>

who gives a ****, we all know vets get cut by the end of their contract any way... you act like its guaranteed money

how old was Strahan when he retired?
are you kidding? peppers cant even stand in strahans shadow. stra was the result of a freak super soldier cloning accident in texas.


Strahan is one of the greatest ever to play the game period...

but the truth hurts

PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


peppers attacks from the blindside so more fumbles are to be expected. when peppers career is over it wont touch stras.

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 12:01 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</P>


........****......THAT</P>


</P>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</P>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</P>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</P>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:02 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles




Carolina was good back then.....
Giants were the epitome of mediocrity in Strahan's early career</p>


Not arguing he isn't good or anything.....I just wouldnt waste the money for more than 3 years....
i keep thinking about it, and i just cant justify it.....sorry to disappoint you!!!</p>
.. its obvious u guys just dont know how it works or how the giants are...

lol nooooo, we just think the offer is stuuuuuuuuuupid

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 12:03 PM
Watch us get Peppers and Dansby...A guy can dream right?
</P>


i think id drop dead of a heart attack..</P>


ughhh hurry up FA.</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:04 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:04 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.are we ****ing stupid?


no we aren't...

Peppers is a ****IN MONSTER and we are in an uncapped year

Osi is going the way of the malcontents it seems like...

Maybe we're thinking of Peppers as a strongside LB since he was getting his rocks off about possibly playing the 3-4... i mean i know its different position, but I think its transitionable...

or maybe keep Osi move tuck to DT full time?

7 year, 100 million to take a chance at a 30 year old DE who wants to start playing linebacker??????............neeeext





i just want a formal apology when we offer him....

cuz apparently great minds think alike and me and jerry reese are on the same page
</P>


No one is going to aplogize to you if the Giants act as stupidly as you want them to.</P>




i want an apology old man

did u miss the zinger i threw at u early in the am? lol
</P>


Sorry...Missed it.</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:04 PM
Watch us get Peppers and Dansby...A guy can dream right?
</p>


i think id drop dead of a heart attack..</p>


ughhh hurry up FA.</p>id skip through the streets like a little school girl, minus the absurd contract for peppers of course

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:08 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:09 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.

i'd rather have an upgrade at DE and get a first rounder for Osi... but thats just me

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:11 PM
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/03/03/too-close-for-comfort-floyd-mayweather-shane-mosley-scuffle/


i hope mosely can pull it off. probably not but...........

always gotta pull for the underdog or the old bull.

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 12:11 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0219/pg2_g_pats_banner1_400.jpg

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:12 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</P>


Hah! Last years "we need Braylon" is this years "sign Peppers" for you.</P>


You were wrong last year and you are way off base this year.</P>


And forget about this year being "crazy money". The owners are preparing for a lock out and are not anxious to spend a lot of money. There may be a few nut job owners out there but last I checked John Mara is quite sane.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:14 PM
bottom line let this guy come in and be a force, which i'd have to say i'd put money on he would be, then all of your tunes would change....

then we prolly trade Osi for a first rounder or 2nd rounder. Getting young talent plus upgrading our most prized position while getting rid of a malcontent...

hard to say its abad move...

no cap this year, so i don't care about money. And if you think Osi isn't gonna hold out for a HUGE contract in a year or so then ur nuts.
</p>


dude SEVEN...7.....7 <font size="6">SEVEN YEARS</font></p>


no.....listen to yourself. He's 30....you dont offer that kinda money, and that kinda term to a 30 year old.
TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY</p>

who gives a ****, we all know vets get cut by the end of their contract any way... you act like its guaranteed money

how old was Strahan when he retired?
are you kidding? peppers cant even stand in strahans shadow. stra was the result of a freak super soldier cloning accident in texas.


Strahan is one of the greatest ever to play the game period...

but the truth hurts

PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


peppers attacks from the blindside so more fumbles are to be expected. when peppers career is over it wont touch stras.


its a thick line between being a homer and a realist...

Strahan is one og the greatest ever, Peppers is on pace to be as welll

its just so funny that ur reasons for your opinions flop so hard...

PEppers has had a better first half career, but you say that he'll never touch strahans numbers

but yet strahan had his best work in his later years, but theres no chance Peppers could have similar type career... you guys just make no sense....

You talk about getting younger, but theres no mention of the first or second round pick we'd get for Osi as being a factor...

you talk money, but we're in an uncapped year in a land of unguaranteed contracts

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:14 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
are you inplying that peppers is now better then stra?

its easier for peppers cause he attacks the blind side of the qb. qbs could actually see stra coming. plus id like to see how many qb hurries and hits compared between the two.

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 12:16 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</P>


i like it so we actually agree on something LOL </P>


but.... i just think 100 mil for 7 years is a HUGE contract for someone who is 30 years old.</P>

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:17 PM
bottom line let this guy come in and be a force, which i'd have to say i'd put money on he would be, then all of your tunes would change....

then we prolly trade Osi for a first rounder or 2nd rounder. Getting young talent plus upgrading our most prized position while getting rid of a malcontent...

hard to say its abad move...

no cap this year, so i don't care about money. And if you think Osi isn't gonna hold out for a HUGE contract in a year or so then ur nuts.
</P>


dude SEVEN...7.....7 <FONT size=6>SEVEN YEARS</FONT></P>


no.....listen to yourself. He's 30....you dont offer that kinda money, and that kinda term to a 30 year old.
TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY</P>




who gives a ****, we all know vets get cut by the end of their contract any way... you act like its guaranteed money

how old was Strahan when he retired?
are you kidding? peppers cant even stand in strahans shadow. stra was the result of a freak super soldier cloning accident in texas.


Strahan is one of the greatest ever to play the game period...

but the truth hurts

PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


peppers attacks from the blindside so more fumbles are to be expected. when peppers career is over it wont touch stras.


its a thick line between being a homer and a realist...

Strahan is one og the greatest ever, Peppers is on pace to be as welll

its just so funny that ur reasons for your opinions flop so hard...

PEppers has had a better first half career, but you say that he'll never touch strahans numbers

but yet strahan had his best work in his later years, but theres no chance Peppers could have similar type career... you guys just make no sense....

You talk about getting younger, but theres no mention of the first or second round pick we'd get for Osi as being a factor...

you talk money, but we're in an uncapped year in a land of unguaranteed contracts
</P>


We would never get a 1st rounder for Osi. We probably wouldn't get a 2nd either. We have 2 starting DE's right now in Tuck and Kiwi. I'm all for getting more depth at that position but to spend that much cash on an aging player is silliness.</P>


This is always Matt's silly season. He loses his mind this time of year and then comes back to us after the draft.</P>

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 12:18 PM
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/03/03/too-close-for-comfort-floyd-mayweather-shane-mosley-scuffle/


i hope mosely can pull it off. probably not but...........

always gotta pull for the underdog or the old bull.

Its all for the hype. I am sure it was planned.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:18 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</p>


........****......THAT</p>


</p>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</p>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</p>



</p>

i would say more than likely, un less we're looking to move Peppers to OLB which is doubtful, or move Tuck to DE full time which is doubtful.</p>



</p>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</p>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</p>

we dont' have alot of needs at all. Go draft a MLB first round, lets the secondary guru that is our DC work his magic with our secondary, go up grade our DE spot, and then get a high pick....

our WRs are legit, our qb is legit, our line would need work IMO but lets be real we're not making any changes this year, our RBs are prolly safe for this year too, but who cares cuz RBs are a dime a dozen.

Saftey is DEEP in the draft this year

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:19 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles




Carolina was good back then.....
Giants were the epitome of mediocrity in Strahan's early career</p>


Not arguing he isn't good or anything.....I just wouldnt waste the money for more than 3 years....
i keep thinking about it, and i just cant justify it.....sorry to disappoint you!!!</p>
.. its obvious u guys just dont know how it works or how the giants are...

lol nooooo, we just think the offer is stuuuuuuuuuupid


hence proving my point

do u really care if the maras have to spend millions. Lol does it like relaly bother you

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:19 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 12:22 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</P>


........****......THAT</P>


</P>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</P>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</P>




</P>


i would say more than likely, un less we're looking to move Peppers to OLB which is doubtful, or move Tuck to DE full time which is doubtful.</P>




</P>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</P>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</P>




<FONT color=#0000ff>we dont' have alot of needs at all.</FONT> Go draft a MLB first round, lets the secondary guru that is our DC work his magic with our secondary, go up grade our DE spot, and then get a high pick....

our WRs are legit, our qb is legit, our line would need work IMO but lets be real we're not making any changes this year, our RBs are prolly safe for this year too, but who cares cuz RBs are a dime a dozen.

Saftey is DEEP in the draft this year
</P>


really? i def disagree... we are VERY weak at LB ... our oline and dline DEF need work and our Dbacks def need work so spending 100 million one person is outrageous to me esp when he is 30 years old but its an uncapped year so if they have the money i guess it isnt an issue... its def an upgrade from Osi but still.</P>

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:24 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</P>


........****......THAT</P>


</P>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</P>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</P>




</P>


i would say more than likely, un less we're looking to move Peppers to OLB which is doubtful, or move Tuck to DE full time which is doubtful.</P>




</P>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</P>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</P>




we dont' have alot of needs at all. Go draft a MLB first round, lets the secondary guru that is our DC work his magic with our secondary, go up grade our DE spot, and then get a high pick....

our WRs are legit, our qb is legit, our line would need work IMO but lets be real we're not making any changes this year, our RBs are prolly safe for this year too, but who cares cuz RBs are a dime a dozen.

Saftey is DEEP in the draft this year
</P>


We were 3-8 in our last 11 games. We gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


And you think we don't have a lot of needs.</P>


As I said........Matt's silly season.</P>


</P>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</P>


<FONT size=6>MATT......February-April.</FONT></P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:25 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</p>


Hah! Last years "we need Braylon" is this years "sign Peppers" for you.</p>


You were wrong last year and you are way off base this year.</p>


And forget about this year being "crazy money". The owners are preparing for a lock out and are not anxious to spend a lot of money. There may be a few nut job owners out there but last I checked John Mara is quite sane.</p>

A) if we offer 100 mil to Peppers then apparently the Giants are willing to spend the money

B) I never called Braylon one of the greatest of all time.

C) The need for Braylon was more about keeping the offensive gameplan intact after losing plax and not relying on rookie WRs, which if history has shown us is something you should never do

D) The whole point of me liking Braylon so much is because he was a young guy who had shown signs of being sick. Ironically the same type of situation that pizz, dezz, and daven are saying they would rather do than get a young player coming off his rookie contract, like we did with Pierce. which is similar to what the Braylon thing was...

lets stop trying to compare the two, because thats crazy. I've also had many other FAs i wanted and called for that would of more than likely worked out, since they were still playing successfully with where they signed

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:25 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
are you inplying that peppers is now better then stra?

its easier for peppers cause he attacks the blind side of the qb. qbs could actually see stra coming. plus id like to see how many qb hurries and hits compared between the two.


bro its not opinion, Peppers has dramatically had a better first 8 years than STrahan did... whats the debate

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:28 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</p>


i like it so we actually agree on something LOL </p>


but.... i just think 100 mil for 7 years is a HUGE contract for someone who is 30 years old.</p>

its an uncapped year, its a year of inflation... theres nothing thtat can be done about it

if he tails off he gets cut and we take minimal cap hit towards the end of his career..

its no big thing

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 12:28 PM
D) The whole point of me liking Braylon so much is because he was a young guy who had shown signs of being sick. Ironically the same type of situation that pizz, dezz, and daven are saying they would rather do than get a young player coming off his rookie contract, like we did with Pierce. which is similar to what the Braylon thing was...

That's the point, I was surprised at how the rooks did, so now, I'm more willing to give rooks a chance then I was before, I've changed my mentality on the subject.

to tell the truth this is "just" like the Braylon thing, except, with the Braylon thing we didn't have ANY proven WR's we already have 2 proven DE's.

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:28 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</P>


Hah! Last years "we need Braylon" is this years "sign Peppers" for you.</P>


You were wrong last year and you are way off base this year.</P>


And forget about this year being "crazy money". The owners are preparing for a lock out and are not anxious to spend a lot of money. There may be a few nut job owners out there but last I checked John Mara is quite sane.</P>




A) if we offer 100 mil to Peppers then apparently the Giants are willing to spend the money

B) I never called Braylon one of the greatest of all time.

C) The need for Braylon was more about keeping the offensive gameplan intact after losing plax and not relying on rookie WRs, which if history has shown us is something you should never do

D) The whole point of me liking Braylon so much is because he was a young guy who had shown signs of being sick. Ironically the same type of situation that pizz, dezz, and daven are saying they would rather do than get a young player coming off his rookie contract, like we did with Pierce. which is similar to what the Braylon thing was...

lets stop trying to compare the two, because thats crazy. I've also had many other FAs i wanted and called for that would of more than likely worked out, since they were still playing successfully with where they signed
</P>


If you're trying to convince me that you aren't crazy, this Daven-like post isn't helping.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:29 PM
bottom line let this guy come in and be a force, which i'd have to say i'd put money on he would be, then all of your tunes would change....

then we prolly trade Osi for a first rounder or 2nd rounder. Getting young talent plus upgrading our most prized position while getting rid of a malcontent...

hard to say its abad move...

no cap this year, so i don't care about money. And if you think Osi isn't gonna hold out for a HUGE contract in a year or so then ur nuts.
</p>


dude SEVEN...7.....7 <font size="6">SEVEN YEARS</font></p>


no.....listen to yourself. He's 30....you dont offer that kinda money, and that kinda term to a 30 year old.
TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY</p>




who gives a ****, we all know vets get cut by the end of their contract any way... you act like its guaranteed money

how old was Strahan when he retired?
are you kidding? peppers cant even stand in strahans shadow. stra was the result of a freak super soldier cloning accident in texas.


Strahan is one of the greatest ever to play the game period...

but the truth hurts

PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


peppers attacks from the blindside so more fumbles are to be expected. when peppers career is over it wont touch stras.


its a thick line between being a homer and a realist...

Strahan is one og the greatest ever, Peppers is on pace to be as welll

its just so funny that ur reasons for your opinions flop so hard...

PEppers has had a better first half career, but you say that he'll never touch strahans numbers

but yet strahan had his best work in his later years, but theres no chance Peppers could have similar type career... you guys just make no sense....

You talk about getting younger, but theres no mention of the first or second round pick we'd get for Osi as being a factor...

you talk money, but we're in an uncapped year in a land of unguaranteed contracts
</p>


We would never get a 1st rounder for Osi. We probably wouldn't get a 2nd either. We have 2 starting DE's right now in Tuck and Kiwi. I'm all for getting more depth at that position but to spend that much cash on an aging player is silliness.</p>


This is always Matt's silly season. He loses his mind this time of year and then comes back to us after the draft.</p>

if we got a second rounder for Shockey, we'd get a second rounder for Osi, no DOUBT

I agree i thin ksecond rounder, but when i said that last week dezz had a baby about it and said "WERE DEF GONNA GET A FIRST RUONDER FOR HIM":

i think it was dezz

shocknaweny
03-03-2010, 12:30 PM
been busy in here lately I see....

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:30 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</P>


i like it so we actually agree on something LOL </P>


but.... i just think 100 mil for 7 years is a HUGE contract for someone who is 30 years old.</P>




its an uncapped year, its a year of inflation... theres nothing thtat can be done about it

if he tails off he gets cut and we take minimal cap hit towards the end of his career..

its no big thing
</P>


As I said, the owners are generally very <U>reluctant </U>to pay a lot right now with the impending lock out.</P>

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 12:31 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</p>


Hah! Last years "we need Braylon" is this years "sign Peppers" for you.</p>


You were wrong last year and you are way off base this year.</p>


And forget about this year being "crazy money". The owners are preparing for a lock out and are not anxious to spend a lot of money. There may be a few nut job owners out there but last I checked John Mara is quite sane.</p>




A) if we offer 100 mil to Peppers then apparently the Giants are willing to spend the money

B) I never called Braylon one of the greatest of all time.

C) The need for Braylon was more about keeping the offensive gameplan intact after losing plax and not relying on rookie WRs, which if history has shown us is something you should never do

D) The whole point of me liking Braylon so much is because he was a young guy who had shown signs of being sick. Ironically the same type of situation that pizz, dezz, and daven are saying they would rather do than get a young player coming off his rookie contract, like we did with Pierce. which is similar to what the Braylon thing was...

lets stop trying to compare the two, because thats crazy. I've also had many other FAs i wanted and called for that would of more than likely worked out, since they were still playing successfully with where they signed
</p>


If you're trying to convince me that you aren't crazy, this Daven-like post isn't helping.</p>

he used A/B/C/D I always use 1/2/3/4 clearly we are different, but other then that, you are right, that's exactly the kind of post I would have made, had I been in support of Peppers.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:32 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</p>


........****......THAT</p>


</p>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</p>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</p>




</p>


i would say more than likely, un less we're looking to move Peppers to OLB which is doubtful, or move Tuck to DE full time which is doubtful.</p>




</p>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</p>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</p>




we dont' have alot of needs at all. Go draft a MLB first round, lets the secondary guru that is our DC work his magic with our secondary, go up grade our DE spot, and then get a high pick....

our WRs are legit, our qb is legit, our line would need work IMO but lets be real we're not making any changes this year, our RBs are prolly safe for this year too, but who cares cuz RBs are a dime a dozen.

Saftey is DEEP in the draft this year
</p>


We were 3-8 in our last 11 games. We gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


And you think we don't have a lot of needs.</p>


As I said........Matt's silly season.</p>


</p>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</p>


<font size="6">MATT......February-April.</font></p>


</p>

na i dont... injuries and gameplan is what killed us the most

our offense was effective

We got Alford coming back, Canty coming into camp healthy, Osi if he stays more healthy, Tucky more healthy. We got rid of the lump at MLB, Phillips coming back. Along with a guy that specializes in secondaries. While having a draft and apparently chasing top FAs, we're not in shambles my man....

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:33 PM
D) The whole point of me liking Braylon so much is because he was a young guy who had shown signs of being sick. Ironically the same type of situation that pizz, dezz, and daven are saying they would rather do than get a young player coming off his rookie contract, like we did with Pierce. which is similar to what the Braylon thing was...

That's the point, I was surprised at how the rooks did, so now, I'm more willing to give rooks a chance then I was before, I've changed my mentality on the subject.

to tell the truth this is "just" like the Braylon thing, except, with the Braylon thing we didn't have ANY proven WR's we already have 2 proven DE's.


well put it this way, odds are we are not gonna go after Peppers unless we're lookin to dump Osi...

if Osi is gone and we can get one of the best, u do it, its ano brainer.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:34 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</p>


Hah! Last years "we need Braylon" is this years "sign Peppers" for you.</p>


You were wrong last year and you are way off base this year.</p>


And forget about this year being "crazy money". The owners are preparing for a lock out and are not anxious to spend a lot of money. There may be a few nut job owners out there but last I checked John Mara is quite sane.</p>




A) if we offer 100 mil to Peppers then apparently the Giants are willing to spend the money

B) I never called Braylon one of the greatest of all time.

C) The need for Braylon was more about keeping the offensive gameplan intact after losing plax and not relying on rookie WRs, which if history has shown us is something you should never do

D) The whole point of me liking Braylon so much is because he was a young guy who had shown signs of being sick. Ironically the same type of situation that pizz, dezz, and daven are saying they would rather do than get a young player coming off his rookie contract, like we did with Pierce. which is similar to what the Braylon thing was...

lets stop trying to compare the two, because thats crazy. I've also had many other FAs i wanted and called for that would of more than likely worked out, since they were still playing successfully with where they signed
</p>


If you're trying to convince me that you aren't crazy, this Daven-like post isn't helping.</p>

these manningbowl-like responses show that you've been defeated

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:34 PM
bottom line let this guy come in and be a force, which i'd have to say i'd put money on he would be, then all of your tunes would change....

then we prolly trade Osi for a first rounder or 2nd rounder. Getting young talent plus upgrading our most prized position while getting rid of a malcontent...

hard to say its abad move...

no cap this year, so i don't care about money. And if you think Osi isn't gonna hold out for a HUGE contract in a year or so then ur nuts.
</p>


dude SEVEN...7.....7 <font size="6">SEVEN YEARS</font></p>


no.....listen to yourself. He's 30....you dont offer that kinda money, and that kinda term to a 30 year old.
TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY</p>

who gives a ****, we all know vets get cut by the end of their contract any way... you act like its guaranteed money

how old was Strahan when he retired?
are you kidding? peppers cant even stand in strahans shadow. stra was the result of a freak super soldier cloning accident in texas.


Strahan is one of the greatest ever to play the game period...

but the truth hurts

PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


peppers attacks from the blindside so more fumbles are to be expected. when peppers career is over it wont touch stras.


its a thick line between being a homer and a realist...

Strahan is one og the greatest ever, Peppers is on pace to be as welll

its just so funny that ur reasons for your opinions flop so hard...

PEppers has had a better first half career, but you say that he'll never touch strahans numbers

but yet strahan had his best work in his later years, but theres no chance Peppers could have similar type career... you guys just make no sense....

You talk about getting younger, but theres no mention of the first or second round pick we'd get for Osi as being a factor...

you talk money, but we're in an uncapped year in a land of unguaranteed contracts
never said anything about getting younger. i just dont see peppers lasting and producing in the later years like stra. not many do. its opinion

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:35 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
</p>


i like it so we actually agree on something LOL </p>


but.... i just think 100 mil for 7 years is a HUGE contract for someone who is 30 years old.</p>




its an uncapped year, its a year of inflation... theres nothing thtat can be done about it

if he tails off he gets cut and we take minimal cap hit towards the end of his career..

its no big thing
</p>


As I said, the owners are generally very <u>reluctant </u>to pay a lot right now with the impending lock out.</p>

and if the Giants offer Peppers 100 mil, along with the 6 other teams that are suppose to give him a huge offer, your point gets ****ted on

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 12:35 PM
D) The whole point of me liking Braylon so much is because he was a young guy who had shown signs of being sick. Ironically the same type of situation that pizz, dezz, and daven are saying they would rather do than get a young player coming off his rookie contract, like we did with Pierce. which is similar to what the Braylon thing was...

That's the point, I was surprised at how the rooks did, so now, I'm more willing to give rooks a chance then I was before, I've changed my mentality on the subject.

to tell the truth this is "just" like the Braylon thing, except, with the Braylon thing we didn't have ANY proven WR's we already have 2 proven DE's.


well put it this way, odds are we are not gonna go after Peppers unless we're lookin to dump Osi...

if Osi is gone and we can get one of the best, u do it, its ano brainer.


And I'm just saying, I said exactly the same type of things last year, but everyone called me crazy.

I SEE your point, I just don't agree, I'm willing to give some rooks, maybe a draft pick a chance...This year.

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:36 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:37 PM
D) The whole point of me liking Braylon so much is because he was a young guy who had shown signs of being sick. Ironically the same type of situation that pizz, dezz, and daven are saying they would rather do than get a young player coming off his rookie contract, like we did with Pierce. which is similar to what the Braylon thing was...

That's the point, I was surprised at how the rooks did, so now, I'm more willing to give rooks a chance then I was before, I've changed my mentality on the subject.

to tell the truth this is "just" like the Braylon thing, except, with the Braylon thing we didn't have ANY proven WR's we already have 2 proven DE's.


well put it this way, odds are we are not gonna go after Peppers unless we're lookin to dump Osi...

if Osi is gone and we can get one of the best, u do it, its ano brainer.


And I'm just saying, I said exactly the same type of things last year, but everyone called me crazy.

I SEE your point, I just don't agree, I'm willing to give some rooks, maybe a draft pick a chance...This year.


I dunno, i think pretty much everybody wa son board with you on the WR thing. You just lost us after we saw the trio step up and uwere still callin for braylong

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:38 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</P>


........****......THAT</P>


</P>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</P>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</P>




</P>


i would say more than likely, un less we're looking to move Peppers to OLB which is doubtful, or move Tuck to DE full time which is doubtful.</P>




</P>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</P>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</P>




we dont' have alot of needs at all. Go draft a MLB first round, lets the secondary guru that is our DC work his magic with our secondary, go up grade our DE spot, and then get a high pick....

our WRs are legit, our qb is legit, our line would need work IMO but lets be real we're not making any changes this year, our RBs are prolly safe for this year too, but who cares cuz RBs are a dime a dozen.

Saftey is DEEP in the draft this year
</P>


We were 3-8 in our last 11 games. We gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


And you think we don't have a lot of needs.</P>


As I said........Matt's silly season.</P>


</P>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</P>


<FONT size=6>MATT......February-April.</FONT></P>


</P>




na i dont... injuries and gameplan is what killed us the most

our offense was effective

We got Alford coming back, Canty coming into camp healthy, Osi if he stays more healthy, Tucky more healthy. We got rid of the lump at MLB, Phillips coming back. Along with a guy that specializes in secondaries. While having a draft and apparently chasing top FAs, we're not in shambles my man....
</P>


Great logic.</P>


"If everything goes perfectly, if all our injured players come back 100%, if we have no other injuries, if our coaches all get smarter, if the wind doesn't blow in December, if Osi all of the sudden plays with actual discipline (for the first time in his career), if down is up, if right is wrong, if black is white,........we don't have many needs"</P>


Sincerely,</P>


Mattmeyerbud</P>


</P>


In other words...I'm.......</P>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:38 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


well for one if he has double digit sacks 2 or more years i win? lol

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:40 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</p>


........****......THAT</p>


</p>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</p>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</p>




</p>


i would say more than likely, un less we're looking to move Peppers to OLB which is doubtful, or move Tuck to DE full time which is doubtful.</p>




</p>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</p>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</p>




we dont' have alot of needs at all. Go draft a MLB first round, lets the secondary guru that is our DC work his magic with our secondary, go up grade our DE spot, and then get a high pick....

our WRs are legit, our qb is legit, our line would need work IMO but lets be real we're not making any changes this year, our RBs are prolly safe for this year too, but who cares cuz RBs are a dime a dozen.

Saftey is DEEP in the draft this year
</p>


We were 3-8 in our last 11 games. We gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


And you think we don't have a lot of needs.</p>


As I said........Matt's silly season.</p>


</p>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</p>


<font size="6">MATT......February-April.</font></p>


</p>




na i dont... injuries and gameplan is what killed us the most

our offense was effective

We got Alford coming back, Canty coming into camp healthy, Osi if he stays more healthy, Tucky more healthy. We got rid of the lump at MLB, Phillips coming back. Along with a guy that specializes in secondaries. While having a draft and apparently chasing top FAs, we're not in shambles my man....
</p>


Great logic.</p>


"If everything goes perfectly, if all our injured players come back 100%, if we have no other injuries, if our coaches all get smarter, if the wind doesn't blow in December, if Osi all of the sudden plays with actual discipline (for the first time in his career), if down is up, if right is wrong, if black is white,........we don't have many needs"</p>


Sincerely,</p>


Mattmeyerbud</p>


</p>


In other words...I'm.......</p>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</p>

well whats your logic? add some starting DTs to the mix we have coming back?

Where do you think the money should be spent then? Your not really making any sense.

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:41 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
are you inplying that peppers is now better then stra?

its easier for peppers cause he attacks the blind side of the qb. qbs could actually see stra coming. plus id like to see how many qb hurries and hits compared between the two.


bro its not opinion, Peppers has dramatically had a better first 8 years than STrahan did... whats the debate
lol i dont know you tell me. your trying to imply peppers is better then stra which is not the case.

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 12:42 PM
I dunno, i think pretty much everybody wa son board with you on the WR thing. You just lost us after we saw the trio step up and uwere still callin for braylong


you mean before preseason started? what people saw them step up in practice, come on now Matt....

Regardless, I think we should give maybe Sintim a chance at DE if Osi leaves.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:43 PM
I dunno, i think pretty much everybody wa son board with you on the WR thing. You just lost us after we saw the trio step up and uwere still callin for braylong


you mean before preseason started? what people saw them step up in practice, come on now Matt....

Regardless, I think we should give maybe Sintim a chance at DE if Osi leaves.



no i mean during the season lol...

but I mean the way Smith playd the Hines Ward role with Eli right off the bat and Manningham exploded early on in the season, most of us did let go for getting another WR....

then once we saw Nicks do it up, most of us officially stopped giving a ****, but u were still saying that you woulnd't mind Braylon at that point. **** you were even still saying it in the playoffs lol

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:44 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</P>


........****......THAT</P>


</P>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</P>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</P>




</P>


i would say more than likely, un less we're looking to move Peppers to OLB which is doubtful, or move Tuck to DE full time which is doubtful.</P>




</P>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</P>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</P>




we dont' have alot of needs at all. Go draft a MLB first round, lets the secondary guru that is our DC work his magic with our secondary, go up grade our DE spot, and then get a high pick....

our WRs are legit, our qb is legit, our line would need work IMO but lets be real we're not making any changes this year, our RBs are prolly safe for this year too, but who cares cuz RBs are a dime a dozen.

Saftey is DEEP in the draft this year
</P>


We were 3-8 in our last 11 games. We gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


And you think we don't have a lot of needs.</P>


As I said........Matt's silly season.</P>


</P>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</P>


<FONT size=6>MATT......February-April.</FONT></P>


</P>




na i dont... injuries and gameplan is what killed us the most

our offense was effective

We got Alford coming back, Canty coming into camp healthy, Osi if he stays more healthy, Tucky more healthy. We got rid of the lump at MLB, Phillips coming back. Along with a guy that specializes in secondaries. While having a draft and apparently chasing top FAs, we're not in shambles my man....
</P>


Great logic.</P>


"If everything goes perfectly, if all our injured players come back 100%, if we have no other injuries, if our coaches all get smarter, if the wind doesn't blow in December, if Osi all of the sudden plays with actual discipline (for the first time in his career), if down is up, if right is wrong, if black is white,........we don't have many needs"</P>


Sincerely,</P>


Mattmeyerbud</P>


</P>


In other words...I'm.......</P>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</P>




well whats your logic? add some starting DTs to the mix we have coming back?

Where do you think the money should be spent then? Your not really making any sense.
</P>


A veteran safety, depth on the O line, possibly Brian Westbrook, depth at DLine. Or if its not too expensive, Dansby or Brackett.</P>


Otherwise, dump Osi for a pick and build our team in the draft. Draft Weatherspoon at 15. This is the greatest draft for our needs that will ever happen again. LB's and safeties especially.</P>


One of the keysto winning in the NFL is depth.</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:45 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


well for one if he has double digit sacks 2 or more years i win? lol
k, but over 10. 10 doesnt count.

if you win ill give you 2 tickets to a game of your choosing. but when i win..........i dont know let me think about it
or we can just do 200 bucks or so.

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 12:46 PM
If you're trying to convince me that you aren't crazy, this Daven-like post isn't helping
</P>


dont worry pappy... hes been visiting baby daven anyway... hes under evalutation atm... maybe they can share a cell [;)]</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/mmbanddavenincell.jpg</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:46 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
are you inplying that peppers is now better then stra?

its easier for peppers cause he attacks the blind side of the qb. qbs could actually see stra coming. plus id like to see how many qb hurries and hits compared between the two.


bro its not opinion, Peppers has dramatically had a better first 8 years than STrahan did... whats the debate
lol i dont know you tell me. your trying to imply peppers is better then stra which is not the case.


FACT: PEppers has had a better first 8 years than Strahan.... (ur the one jumping to conclusions)

for you to say he'll never be Strahan with that in mind is ridiculous. I dunno if he will end up putting better numbers up, but i guarantee that minus injury he'll be close enough.

You totally dismiss the idea that Peppers could keep it up even tho hes had a better start than Strahan who ur praise.. it makes no sense dude

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 12:47 PM
I dunno, i think pretty much everybody wa son board with you on the WR thing. You just lost us after we saw the trio step up and uwere still callin for braylong


you mean before preseason started? what people saw them step up in practice, come on now Matt....

Regardless, I think we should give maybe Sintim a chance at DE if Osi leaves.



no i mean during the season lol...

but I mean the way Smith playd the Hines Ward role with Eli right off the bat and Manningham exploded early on in the season, most of us did let go for getting another WR....

then once we saw Nicks do it up, most of us officially stopped giving a ****, but u were still saying that you woulnd't mind Braylon at that point. **** you were even still saying it in the playoffs lol


The post that you are referring to, the one I got the most flak in, was from "before" preseason, it was the post named something like, "This is the best group of receivers we've had in a long time" or something, it was from "before" preseason, I defended my position (that I wanted Braylon before the season started) well into the season, because, why would I back down from that, at the time, when I came up with that position, it was correct imho, and I still think it would have been a good idea.

But I do admit, the young guns did better then I thought they would.

shocknaweny
03-03-2010, 12:48 PM
Sign Peppers....trade Osi !

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:48 PM
If you're trying to convince me that you aren't crazy, this Daven-like post isn't helping
</p>


dont worry pappy... hes been visiting baby daven anyway... hes under evalutation atm... maybe they can share a cell [;)]</p>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/mmbanddavenincell.jpg</p>lol chill matt your scaring daven.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:50 PM
Sources say that the New York Giants are ready to offer unrestricted free agent, Julius Peppers 100 million dollars for seven years, including a hefty signing bonus. It has been noted that Peppers and his camp will field a minimum of seven offers by week's end.</p>


........****......THAT</p>


</p>


thats an obsurd amount of money.</p>




its an uncapped year, its the year of crazy money. Who cares if Peppers gets to be paid or if the Maras and Tiches get to keep the money.... either way its staying within the giants organization as a fan
</p>




</p>


i would say more than likely, un less we're looking to move Peppers to OLB which is doubtful, or move Tuck to DE full time which is doubtful.</p>




</p>


no thats very true but they better have plenty more dough because we have ALOT of needs.....</p>


IF we sign peppers does that mean we are trading osi?!</p>




we dont' have alot of needs at all. Go draft a MLB first round, lets the secondary guru that is our DC work his magic with our secondary, go up grade our DE spot, and then get a high pick....

our WRs are legit, our qb is legit, our line would need work IMO but lets be real we're not making any changes this year, our RBs are prolly safe for this year too, but who cares cuz RBs are a dime a dozen.

Saftey is DEEP in the draft this year
</p>


We were 3-8 in our last 11 games. We gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


And you think we don't have a lot of needs.</p>


As I said........Matt's silly season.</p>


</p>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</p>


<font size="6">MATT......February-April.</font></p>


</p>




na i dont... injuries and gameplan is what killed us the most

our offense was effective

We got Alford coming back, Canty coming into camp healthy, Osi if he stays more healthy, Tucky more healthy. We got rid of the lump at MLB, Phillips coming back. Along with a guy that specializes in secondaries. While having a draft and apparently chasing top FAs, we're not in shambles my man....
</p>


Great logic.</p>


"If everything goes perfectly, if all our injured players come back 100%, if we have no other injuries, if our coaches all get smarter, if the wind doesn't blow in December, if Osi all of the sudden plays with actual discipline (for the first time in his career), if down is up, if right is wrong, if black is white,........we don't have many needs"</p>


Sincerely,</p>


Mattmeyerbud</p>


</p>


In other words...I'm.......</p>


http://ajroxmywhitesox.mlblogs.com/insane.jpg</p>




well whats your logic? add some starting DTs to the mix we have coming back?

Where do you think the money should be spent then? Your not really making any sense.
</p>


A veteran safety, depth on the O line, possibly Brian Westbrook, depth at DLine. Or if its not too expensive, Dansby or Brackett.</p>


Otherwise, dump Osi for a pick and build our team in the draft. Draft Weatherspoon at 15. This is the greatest draft for our needs that will ever happen again. LB's and safeties especially.</p>


One of the keysto winning in the NFL is depth.</p>

I agree.. draft LB, sign peppers, trade Osi , draft saftey, sign saftey, another RB? no thanks, not unless its at cost, draft oline

your younger my way WHILE upgrading... getting peppers and having 3 picks in the first two rounds. Just because we sign Peppers to a monster doesn't mean we can't afford

sorry but i my daven logic of getting young and better is better than your way... only way we sign Westbrook is if hes at a discount regardless if we ge tpeppers or not.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:51 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


well for one if he has double digit sacks 2 or more years i win? lol
k, but over 10. 10 doesnt count.

if you win ill give you 2 tickets to a game of your choosing. but when i win..........i dont know let me think about it
or we can just do 200 bucks or so.


however u want to dice it slappy

but no im not agreeing to 11 sacks is only a solid year...

truthfully a solid year is ilke 8-9 sacks

if a player is having double digit sacks its more than a solid year

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:51 PM
PEppers in 8 years: 122 games, 382 tackles, 81 sacks, 30 forced fumbles

Strahan in his first 8 years, 119 games, 327 tackles, 62 sacks, 9 forced fumbles


YET TO BE DETHROWNED BY THIS

Pizz's argument: Panthers had a better team

Answer: Panthers record in Peppers first 8 years: 71-57, Giants record in Strahans first 8 years 69-58-1

NEXT?
are you inplying that peppers is now better then stra?

its easier for peppers cause he attacks the blind side of the qb. qbs could actually see stra coming. plus id like to see how many qb hurries and hits compared between the two.


bro its not opinion, Peppers has dramatically had a better first 8 years than STrahan did... whats the debate
lol i dont know you tell me. your trying to imply peppers is better then stra which is not the case.


FACT: PEppers has had a better first 8 years than Strahan.... (ur the one jumping to conclusions)

for you to say he'll never be Strahan with that in mind is ridiculous. I dunno if he will end up putting better numbers up, but i guarantee that minus injury he'll be close enough.

You totally dismiss the idea that Peppers could keep it up even tho hes had a better start than Strahan who ur praise.. it makes no sense dude
sure it does. stras career is over. i know what he did. i dont know what peppers is going to do neither do you, your just implying hes going to be as good or better but im implying peppers wont last as long as stra. whats doesnt make sense??????? hahaha ya crazy,

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 12:51 PM
Let's talk about something else....

How do you think Matthew Stafford will play over the next 5 years?? I'm pulling for him to succeed, but it's the Lions...so idk...

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:53 PM
I dunno, i think pretty much everybody wa son board with you on the WR thing. You just lost us after we saw the trio step up and uwere still callin for braylong


you mean before preseason started? what people saw them step up in practice, come on now Matt....

Regardless, I think we should give maybe Sintim a chance at DE if Osi leaves.



no i mean during the season lol...

but I mean the way Smith playd the Hines Ward role with Eli right off the bat and Manningham exploded early on in the season, most of us did let go for getting another WR....

then once we saw Nicks do it up, most of us officially stopped giving a ****, but u were still saying that you woulnd't mind Braylon at that point. **** you were even still saying it in the playoffs lol


The post that you are referring to, the one I got the most flak in, was from "before" preseason, it was the post named something like, "This is the best group of receivers we've had in a long time" or something, it was from "before" preseason, I defended my position (that I wanted Braylon before the season started) well into the season, because, why would I back down from that, at the time, when I came up with that position, it was correct imho, and I still think it would have been a good idea.

But I do admit, the young guns did better then I thought they would.



i dunno how u can say u were right on that.

At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 12:55 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</P>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </P>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</P>

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 12:55 PM
and doesn't drop big balls
</P>


just like you! you love them and would never let em drop!</P>


lol</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:55 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


well for one if he has double digit sacks 2 or more years i win? lol
k, but over 10. 10 doesnt count.

if you win ill give you 2 tickets to a game of your choosing. but when i win..........i dont know let me think about it
or we can just do 200 bucks or so.


however u want to dice it slappy

but no im not agreeing to 11 sacks is only a solid year...

truthfully a solid year is ilke 8-9 sacks

if a player is having double digit sacks its more than a solid year
well were not arguing if peppers is solid. were arguing if hes better and can last as long as stra. correct? soo stop being a baby and agree to 11 sacks. stra did it. [:D] hell he can probably still do it, no joke.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:55 PM
and as for this build thru the draft ****...

its true you need to, but lets stop acting like we are in rebuilding mode. We have a sick core of player, 2 years removed from the superbowl got hit with alot of change and injuries last year..

Eventually your allowed to be at the point to add the big pieces

And if we lose Osi and have a chance to upgrade him its hard to say, lets just bring a rookie in. Spend the ****in money, get the beast

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 12:56 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</P>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </P>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</P>


</P>


there she goes again! Sweatin!!</P>

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 12:56 PM
Let's talk about something else....

How do you think Matthew Stafford will play over the next 5 years?? I'm pulling for him to succeed, but it's the Lions...so idk...</P>


http://www.thelionsfanatics.com/</P>


</P>


hahha kidding. </P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 12:57 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</p>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </p>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</p>not before meeeee. and any news on my giff [:(] if its to hard can you just do the kc td. thats pretty too.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:57 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


well for one if he has double digit sacks 2 or more years i win? lol
k, but over 10. 10 doesnt count.

if you win ill give you 2 tickets to a game of your choosing. but when i win..........i dont know let me think about it
or we can just do 200 bucks or so.


however u want to dice it slappy

but no im not agreeing to 11 sacks is only a solid year...

truthfully a solid year is ilke 8-9 sacks

if a player is having double digit sacks its more than a solid year
well were not arguing if peppers is solid. were arguing if hes better and can last as long as stra. correct? soo stop being a baby and agree to 11 sacks. stra did it. [:D] hell he can probably still do it, no joke.


you say: "I see him having one more solid year at most"

i say: "Put ur money where ur mouth is"

thats exactly what we are arguing.



bro u keep acting like im saying hes better than STrahan lol... the fac tis hes had a better career than strahan did at this point when strahan was 8 years deep...


i never said he'd end up having a better career, but i did say he would be similar.....

start reading my posts, its annoying to repeat myself cuz u just dont read

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:57 PM
Sign Peppers....trade Osi !</P>


If your going to make a big move in Free agency, at least make a move at a position of need.</P>


DE is way down the list. We would improve our team a lot more if we signed Dansby or Gary Brackett than signing Peppers. We have very good DE's already.</P>


Plus it would cost a lot less.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:58 PM
and doesn't drop big balls
</p>


just like you! you love them and would never let em drop!</p>


lol</p>


i drop them....


...just so i can pick them up with my tongue

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 12:58 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</p>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </p>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</p>

i can't wait to get my peppers jersey

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 12:59 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</P>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </P>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</P>




i can't wait to get my peppers jersey
</P>


Now you're a Bears fan?</P>

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 12:59 PM
Let's talk about something else....

How do you think Matthew Stafford will play over the next 5 years?? I'm pulling for him to succeed, but it's the Lions...so idk...</P>


http://www.thelionsfanatics.com/</P>


</P>


hahha kidding. </P>


</P>


lol. I dont care about the lions....I just love UGA products! Knowshon! Stafford! Both in the first round last year!?! aweeesssommmmeee
GOOOOO GEORGIA BULLLLLLLDOGS!</P>

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 01:00 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</P>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </P>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</P>


</P>


there she goes again! Sweatin!!</P>


</P>


[;)]</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:01 PM
Sign Peppers....trade Osi !</p>


If your going to make a big move in Free agency, at least make a move at a position of need.</p>


DE is way down the list. We would improve our team a lot more if we signed Dansby or Gary Brackett than signing Peppers. We have very good DE's already.</p>


Plus it would cost a lot less.</p>

bet you said the same thing when we drafted Kiwi and had Strahan, Osi, and Tuck

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 01:01 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</P>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </P>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</P>




i can't wait to get my peppers jersey
</P>


Now you're a Bears fan?</P>


</P>


ha! apparently you just saw the same thing I did....sportscenter has sources sayingthe bears throwing big money at him</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:01 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</p>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </p>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</p>




i can't wait to get my peppers jersey
</p>


Now you're a Bears fan?</p>

i only wear giants jerseys

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 01:02 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</P>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </P>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</P>


not before meeeee. and any news on my giff [:(] if its to hard can you just do the kc td. thats pretty too.
</P>


no im having problems with gifs. [:(] ill keep working at it when i have time tho.</P>


why dont you use put the video in your sig for now??</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:03 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</p>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </p>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</p>




i can't wait to get my peppers jersey
</p>


Now you're a Bears fan?</p>


</p>


ha! apparently you just saw the same thing I did....sportscenter has sources sayingthe bears throwing big money at him</p>

hate to break it to everybody, Big Money is going be thrown around names like that at everyturn on friday...

because unlike what moorehead would like for you to believe, the owners are looking to and WILL throw big money out there to land these guys....

another instnace where Moorehead will be wrong

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 01:04 PM
<font size="6">3 http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee61/nateschicky/420text.png
</font>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 01:07 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth

I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


well for one if he has double digit sacks 2 or more years i win? lol
k, but over 10. 10 doesnt count.

if you win ill give you 2 tickets to a game of your choosing. but when i win..........i dont know let me think about it
or we can just do 200 bucks or so.


however u want to dice it slappy

but no im not agreeing to 11 sacks is only a solid year...

truthfully a solid year is ilke 8-9 sacks

if a player is having double digit sacks its more than a solid year
well were not arguing if peppers is solid. were arguing if hes better and can last as long as stra. correct? soo stop being a baby and agree to 11 sacks. stra did it. [:D] hell he can probably still do it, no joke.


you say: "I see him having one more solid year at most"

i say: "Put ur money where ur mouth is"

thats exactly what we are arguing.



bro u keep acting like im saying hes better than STrahan lol... the fac tis hes had a better career than strahan did at this point when strahan was 8 years deep...


i never said he'd end up having a better career, but i did say he would be similar.....

start reading my posts, its annoying to repeat myself cuz u just dont read
neither do you, you just imply and assume all the time. and my mistake when i said solid i ment good.

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 01:07 PM
hate to break it to everybody, Big Money is going be thrown around names like that at everyturn on friday...

because unlike what moorehead would like for you to believe, the owners are looking to and WILL throw big money out there to land these guys....

another instnace where Moorehead will be wrong
</P>


just wondering why talking heads are all pointing to Chicago, with no mention to the Gmen. Maybe cuz peppers doesnt want to play for a team with alot of DEs already.</P>

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 01:07 PM
i only wear giants jerseys

http://product.images.prosportsmemorabilia.com/33-65/33-65724-P.jpg

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 01:08 PM
At this point Nicks had a better year than Braylon, is younger, and has more upside, and doesn't drop big balls
</p>


hakeeemmmm my dreammmmmmmm </p>


lol looooove him!!!!!!!!! godddd i cant wait to get his jersey</p>


not before meeeee. and any news on my giff [:(] if its to hard can you just do the kc td. thats pretty too.
</p>


no im having problems with gifs. [:(] ill keep working at it when i have time tho.</p>


why dont you use put the video in your sig for now??</p>wait you can put the video in my sig??? that be awesome if i knew how.

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 01:09 PM
i only wear giants jerseys

http://product.images.prosportsmemorabilia.com/33-65/33-65724-P.jpg
</P>


gross....i'd light it on fire.</P>


****, who am I kidding...i'd sell it to some stupid shmuck</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:12 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth

I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


well for one if he has double digit sacks 2 or more years i win? lol
k, but over 10. 10 doesnt count.

if you win ill give you 2 tickets to a game of your choosing. but when i win..........i dont know let me think about it
or we can just do 200 bucks or so.


however u want to dice it slappy

but no im not agreeing to 11 sacks is only a solid year...

truthfully a solid year is ilke 8-9 sacks

if a player is having double digit sacks its more than a solid year
well were not arguing if peppers is solid. were arguing if hes better and can last as long as stra. correct? soo stop being a baby and agree to 11 sacks. stra did it. [:D] hell he can probably still do it, no joke.


you say: "I see him having one more solid year at most"

i say: "Put ur money where ur mouth is"

thats exactly what we are arguing.



bro u keep acting like im saying hes better than STrahan lol... the fac tis hes had a better career than strahan did at this point when strahan was 8 years deep...


i never said he'd end up having a better career, but i did say he would be similar.....

start reading my posts, its annoying to repeat myself cuz u just dont read
neither do you, you just imply and assume all the time. and my mistake when i said solid i ment good.


im convinced u smoke crack sometimes lol

so are u going to say 10 sacks isn't a good/solid/legit season?

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:13 PM
hate to break it to everybody, Big Money is going be thrown around names like that at everyturn on friday...

because unlike what moorehead would like for you to believe, the owners are looking to and WILL throw big money out there to land these guys....

another instnace where Moorehead will be wrong
</p>


just wondering why talking heads are all pointing to Chicago, with no mention to the Gmen. Maybe cuz peppers doesnt want to play for a team with alot of DEs already.</p>

let us lose Osi and then we'll see

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:14 PM
i only wear giants jerseys

http://product.images.prosportsmemorabilia.com/33-65/33-65724-P.jpg


only yankees and a Jordan White Sox jersey lol

NBA its a dime a dozen... need to get that Durant Fire tho lol

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 01:15 PM
Sign Peppers....trade Osi !</P>


If your going to make a big move in Free agency, at least make a move at a position of need.</P>


DE is way down the list. We would improve our team a lot more if we signed Dansby or Gary Brackett than signing Peppers. We have very good DE's already.</P>


Plus it would cost a lot less.</P>




bet you said the same thing when we drafted Kiwi and had Strahan, Osi, and Tuck
</P>


I wasn't on the boards when we drafted Kiwi. And I liked the Kiwi pick. He was awsome at BC. Watched him a lot there. Actually was surprised when he was still there at 32. Drafting a player for the future and signing a free agent are very different things. To sign a free agent and pay the kind of money required to do so for a position where we don't have need is pure stupidity.</P>


You draft for the future and you sign free agents to plug holes.</P>


</P>

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 01:16 PM
ugh wtfffffffff

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:18 PM
Sign Peppers....trade Osi !</p>


If your going to make a big move in Free agency, at least make a move at a position of need.</p>


DE is way down the list. We would improve our team a lot more if we signed Dansby or Gary Brackett than signing Peppers. We have very good DE's already.</p>


Plus it would cost a lot less.</p>




bet you said the same thing when we drafted Kiwi and had Strahan, Osi, and Tuck
</p>


I wasn't on the boards when we drafted Kiwi. And I liked the Kiwi pick. He was awsome at BC. Watched him a lot there. Actually was surprised when he was still there at 32. Drafting a player for the future and signing a free agent are very different things. To sign a free agent and pay the kind of money required to do so for a position where we don't have need is pure stupidity.</p>


You draft for the future and you sign free agents to plug holes.</p>


</p>

funny you would say Kiwi is for the future, because unless we get rid of Osi and don't go get a Peppers or a starting caliber DE, hes gone....

great future

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 01:18 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth

I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


well for one if he has double digit sacks 2 or more years i win? lol
k, but over 10. 10 doesnt count.

if you win ill give you 2 tickets to a game of your choosing. but when i win..........i dont know let me think about it
or we can just do 200 bucks or so.


however u want to dice it slappy

but no im not agreeing to 11 sacks is only a solid year...

truthfully a solid year is ilke 8-9 sacks

if a player is having double digit sacks its more than a solid year
well were not arguing if peppers is solid. were arguing if hes better and can last as long as stra. correct? soo stop being a baby and agree to 11 sacks. stra did it. [:D] hell he can probably still do it, no joke.


you say: "I see him having one more solid year at most"

i say: "Put ur money where ur mouth is"

thats exactly what we are arguing.



bro u keep acting like im saying hes better than STrahan lol... the fac tis hes had a better career than strahan did at this point when strahan was 8 years deep...


i never said he'd end up having a better career, but i did say he would be similar.....

start reading my posts, its annoying to repeat myself cuz u just dont read
neither do you, you just imply and assume all the time. and my mistake when i said solid i ment good.


im convinced u smoke crack sometimes lol

so are u going to say 10 sacks isn't a good/solid/legit season?
lol holy **** man. yes 10 sacks is a good season. 11 sacks for the bet so we dont have a repeat of the dimboys fiasco. nothing cracktatic about it.

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 01:20 PM
look what you did matt. you broke the website.

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 01:22 PM
look what you did matt. you broke the website.
</P>


LOL that was me with your gif... hahah ill play tonight again or just ask JG since she actually knows what shesdoinghahah</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:22 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 01:25 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


</P>


i wouldnt make that bet....too many variables. Is this if hes playing for us? or playing anywhere? Is he playing DE? OLB? 4-3? 3-4?
even so, 10 sacks is a safe call i suppose...but im not a gambler so thats not for me to decide [;)]</P>

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 01:28 PM
Exciting times for Mr. and Mrs. Morehead.</P>


Adding a new room on the house.</P>


First installment of construction cam. The decking is on.</P>


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/cazaman15/IMG_0195.jpg?t=1267640687</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:28 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


</p>


i wouldnt make that bet....too many variables. Is this if hes playing for us? or playing anywhere? Is he playing DE? OLB? 4-3? 3-4?
even so, 10 sacks is a safe call i suppose...but im not a gambler so thats not for me to decide [;)]</p>

well if we can't get over this solid number I would say the only way he doesn't do it is if he ends up at LB in a 4-3 or gets injured...

also i'd say if he has 6 more seasons of at least 8 sacks each season, then its a win for me too

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:30 PM
nice moorehead, lookin good

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 01:34 PM
nice moorehead, lookin good
</P>


My lovely bride is calling it a Solarium, but I'm calling it a Sanitarium. That might be more appropriate if you ever come to visit Matt. HaHa.</P>


Thanks for the good thoughts.</P>


</P>


By the way, it appears that Mr. Mara agrees with Moorehead.</P>


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2010/03/03/2010-03-03_giants_well_spend_wisely.html</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 01:34 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:35 PM
my terms:

-at least two years of 10 or more sacks
-5 years of at leats 8 sacks a year

then i win


Can't get seriously injured or play LB in a 4-3 or bet is void

and lets
put some real guap on this since its a bet thats gonna take a while

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 01:35 PM
are you installing yourself morehead.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:36 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:37 PM
nice moorehead, lookin good
</p>


My lovely bride is calling it a Solarium, but I'm calling it a Sanitarium. That might be more appropriate if you ever come to visit Matt. HaHa.</p>


Thanks for the good thoughts.</p>


</p>


By the way, it appears that Mr. Mara agrees with Moorehead.</p>


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2010/03/03/2010-03-03_giants_well_spend_wisely.html</p>

well like I said.. we'll find out on friday or this weekend

and not for nothin we offered Haynesworth 80 mil and gave Canty a big contract... so alot of people say alot of things... actions speak louder than words....

you should know that by now in ur old age




and i am only coming over if i can snuggle with you at night

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 01:42 PM
nice moorehead, lookin good
</P>


My lovely bride is calling it a Solarium, but I'm calling it a Sanitarium. That might be more appropriate if you ever come to visit Matt. HaHa.</P>


Thanks for the good thoughts.</P>


</P>


By the way, it appears that Mr. Mara agrees with Moorehead.</P>


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2010/03/03/2010-03-03_giants_well_spend_wisely.html</P>




well like I said.. we'll find out on friday or this weekend

and not for nothin we offered Haynesworth 80 mil and gave Canty a big contract... so alot of people say alot of things... actions speak louder than words....

you should know that by now in ur old age




and i am only coming over if i can snuggle with you at night
</P>


That would be mandatory.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:45 PM
nice moorehead, lookin good
</p>


My lovely bride is calling it a Solarium, but I'm calling it a Sanitarium. That might be more appropriate if you ever come to visit Matt. HaHa.</p>


Thanks for the good thoughts.</p>


</p>


By the way, it appears that Mr. Mara agrees with Moorehead.</p>


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2010/03/03/2010-03-03_giants_well_spend_wisely.html</p>




well like I said.. we'll find out on friday or this weekend

and not for nothin we offered Haynesworth 80 mil and gave Canty a big contract... so alot of people say alot of things... actions speak louder than words....

you should know that by now in ur old age




and i am only coming over if i can snuggle with you at night
</p>


That would be mandatory.</p>

i'll bring the Devil Dogs [;)]

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:46 PM
ps - isn't it funny i capitalize Devil Dogs and not canucks, canadians, or canada?

hmmm... go figure

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 01:46 PM
@ this year's game...i'll be auctioning myself off for the first <FONT size=6>CREEPY MAN-HUG!!</FONT>
everyone can experince it, but you can be the first for a small fee. the bidding will begin at $5.

You call this strange....I call this Smart Business....

I know Lando and Morehead are game....but I wanna let Dezz, MMB, and Daven into the running if theyd like.</P>


</P>


llllllllllloooooooooolllllllllllllllllll</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:48 PM
@ this year's game...i'll be auctioning myself off for the first <font size="6">CREEPY MAN-HUG!!</font>
everyone can experince it, but you can be the first for a small fee. the bidding will begin at $5.

You call this strange....I call this Smart Business....

I know Lando and Morehead are game....but I wanna let Dezz, MMB, and Daven into the running if theyd like.</p>


</p>


llllllllllloooooooooolllllllllllllllllll</p>

yea right

show up first taunto

your 0/2

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 01:48 PM
@ this year's game...i'll be auctioning myself off for the first <font size="6">CREEPY MAN-HUG!!</font>
everyone can experince it, but you can be the first for a small fee. the bidding will begin at $5.

You call this strange....I call this Smart Business....

I know Lando and Morehead are game....but I wanna let Dezz, MMB, and Daven into the running if theyd like.</p>


</p>


llllllllllloooooooooolllllllllllllllllll</p>

I think your starting bid is too low, you'd have to pay me 10$

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 01:49 PM
nice moorehead, lookin good
</p>


My lovely bride is calling it a Solarium, but I'm calling it a Sanitarium. That might be more appropriate if you ever come to visit Matt. HaHa.</p>


Thanks for the good thoughts.</p>


</p>


By the way, it appears that Mr. Mara agrees with Moorehead.</p>


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2010/03/03/2010-03-03_giants_well_spend_wisely.html</p>




well like I said.. we'll find out on friday or this weekend

and not for nothin we offered Haynesworth 80 mil and gave Canty a big contract... so alot of people say alot of things... actions speak louder than words....

you should know that by now in ur old age




and i am only coming over if i can snuggle with you at night
</p>


That would be mandatory.</p>

i'll bring the Devil Dogs [;)]

He wants to know if you have room for 3?

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/02/28/gal_photo-day_23.jpg

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 01:51 PM
@ this year's game...i'll be auctioning myself off for the first <font size="6">CREEPY MAN-HUG!!</font>
everyone can experince it, but you can be the first for a small fee. the bidding will begin at $5.

You call this strange....I call this Smart Business....

I know Lando and Morehead are game....but I wanna let Dezz, MMB, and Daven into the running if theyd like.</p>


</p>


llllllllllloooooooooolllllllllllllllllll</p>
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3280167244_67df18ca8e.jpg

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:55 PM
nice moorehead, lookin good
</p>


My lovely bride is calling it a Solarium, but I'm calling it a Sanitarium. That might be more appropriate if you ever come to visit Matt. HaHa.</p>


Thanks for the good thoughts.</p>


</p>


By the way, it appears that Mr. Mara agrees with Moorehead.</p>


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2010/03/03/2010-03-03_giants_well_spend_wisely.html</p>




well like I said.. we'll find out on friday or this weekend

and not for nothin we offered Haynesworth 80 mil and gave Canty a big contract... so alot of people say alot of things... actions speak louder than words....

you should know that by now in ur old age




and i am only coming over if i can snuggle with you at night
</p>


That would be mandatory.</p>

i'll bring the Devil Dogs [;)]

He wants to know if you have room for 3?

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/02/28/gal_photo-day_23.jpg


we just gotta watch out for these guys:

http://www.wcbias.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/david-ortiz-manny-ramirez-steroids-red-sox-dodgers-boston-los-angeles.jpg

http://premium1.uploadit.org/healimonster//millargrabass.jpg

http://nysuperblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/red-sox-papelbon-grabbing-mannys-****.jpg

I mean they always say the Red Sox were a tight knit group, but this is ridiculous

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 01:57 PM
ps - isn't it funny i capitalize Devil Dogs and not canucks, canadians, or canada?

hmmm... go figure
</P>


dude I do the same thing...and if I capitalize any of those words while typing...I immediately backspace and correcty it to lower case hahaha</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:57 PM
http://nysuperblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/red-sox-papelbon-grabbing-mannys-****.jpg

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 01:57 PM
@ this year's game...i'll be auctioning myself off for the first <FONT size=6>CREEPY MAN-HUG!!</FONT>
everyone can experince it, but you can be the first for a small fee. the bidding will begin at $5.

You call this strange....I call this Smart Business....

I know Lando and Morehead are game....but I wanna let Dezz, MMB, and Daven into the running if theyd like.</P>


</P>


llllllllllloooooooooolllllllllllllllllll</P>




yea right

show up first taunto

your 0/2
</P>


2?</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:57 PM
ps - isn't it funny i capitalize Devil Dogs and not canucks, canadians, or canada?

hmmm... go figure
</p>


dude I do the same thing...and if I capitalize any of those words while typing...I immediately backspace and correcty it to lower case hahaha</p>

LMAO

canadians... they sure are a funny group

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 01:57 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 01:59 PM
@ this year's game...i'll be auctioning myself off for the first <font size="6">CREEPY MAN-HUG!!</font>
everyone can experince it, but you can be the first for a small fee. the bidding will begin at $5.

You call this strange....I call this Smart Business....

I know Lando and Morehead are game....but I wanna let Dezz, MMB, and Daven into the running if theyd like.</p>


</p>


llllllllllloooooooooolllllllllllllllllll</p>




yea right

show up first taunto

your 0/2
</p>


2?</p>

Draft day and game

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:00 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:01 PM
@ this year's game...i'll be auctioning myself off for the first <FONT size=6>CREEPY MAN-HUG!!</FONT>
everyone can experince it, but you can be the first for a small fee. the bidding will begin at $5.

You call this strange....I call this Smart Business....

I know Lando and Morehead are game....but I wanna let Dezz, MMB, and Daven into the running if theyd like.</P>


</P>


llllllllllloooooooooolllllllllllllllllll</P>




yea right

show up first taunto

your 0/2
</P>


2?</P>




Draft day and game
</P>


I wasnt really in this thread back then. Came in pretty much the week after the draft. lol</P>

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 02:01 PM
when did it become a job requirement to be President of the United States, to be able to blatantly lie on TV and while talking to people?

he opens up his speech today with...

I'm giving the American people the ability to control their health insurance.

that's EXACTLY the opposite of what he's doing, how can he say that and keep a straight face.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:04 PM
when did it become a job requirement to be President of the United States, to be able to blatantly lie on TV and while talking to people?

he opens up his speech today with...

I'm giving the American people the ability to control their health insurance.

that's EXACTLY the opposite of what he's doing, how can he say that and keep a straight face.


how is that a lie, if national healthcare happens you can use that or stick with ur private provider

thats no control?

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:05 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:08 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy


dezz the bet with dimboys was him sayin the cowboys owuld have more than 10 wins

I said if PEppers has double digits sacks thats successful... 10 is double digits

ur really trying to make a connection between the two, but there isn't one

he specifically called out that number and said more.

i said double digits because you said he wouldn't be good...

but yet u wont do the bet unless its 11 or more... i think it just shows ur full of pu-pu-platter

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:11 PM
when did it become a job requirement to be President of the United States, to be able to blatantly lie on TV and while talking to people?

he opens up his speech today with...

I'm giving the American people the ability to control their health insurance.

that's EXACTLY the opposite of what he's doing, how can he say that and keep a straight face.


how is that a lie, if national healthcare happens you can use that or stick with ur private provider

thats no control?
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans. if that were the case why not make the bill bigger so we can get more jobs? lol theyre so full of **** its amazing. every time a repub made a point as to why we shouldnt pass the current bill the president said " thats just not the case" when it really was the case......

"itzy bitzy spider" and can someone tell me what the ****s polosis talking about? the worst house speaker EVER!!

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:13 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 02:14 PM
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how is that a lie, if national healthcare happens you can use that or stick with ur private provider

thats no control?


National Healthcare doesn't need to turn a profit, thus, it will put companies that do need to turn a profit, out of business.

you can keep your private provider, sure, until the company goes belly under from people switching to [cough cough] Free Health Care.

Small Business's will drop their private health care plans as well, why would they provide that when they can just tell people to join Universal Health Care.

You understand he's giving Government more "control" over health care right? there is only so much control if you give more of it to the government by definition you are taking it AWAY from someone else, in this case, it's people.

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 02:15 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 02:17 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.

You never go to the Dr. anyway. You were almost dead before you decided to go last time...

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:17 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy


dezz the bet with dimboys was him sayin the cowboys owuld have more than 10 wins

I said if PEppers has double digits sacks thats successful... 10 is double digits

ur really trying to make a connection between the two, but there isn't one

he specifically called out that number and said more.

i said double digits because you said he wouldn't be good...

but yet u wont do the bet unless its 11 or more... i think it just shows ur full of pu-pu-platter
ur making an issue where there is none. i just dont want peppers to hit 10 and both of us thinking we won. you keep comparing him to stray so 11 is fair i think

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:17 PM
when did it become a job requirement to be President of the United States, to be able to blatantly lie on TV and while talking to people?

he opens up his speech today with...

I'm giving the American people the ability to control their health insurance.

that's EXACTLY the opposite of what he's doing, how can he say that and keep a straight face.


how is that a lie, if national healthcare happens you can use that or stick with ur private provider

thats no control?
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans. if that were the case why not make the bill bigger so we can get more jobs? lol theyre so full of **** its amazing. every time a repub made a point as to why we shouldnt pass the current bill the president said " thats just not the case" when it really was the case......

"itzy bitzy spider" and can someone tell me what the ****s polosis talking about? the worst house speaker EVER!!


well how can u expect them to pass a bill thats bigger than what they have out, they can't even get the smaller bill passed. You gotta crawl before you can walk...

And its not the case, sorry but the repubs have disgraced this country with how they have been behaving. (Not the people obviously, but those that are representing the republicans to the president)

The basic idea of nationalizing healthcare is to create jobs, get more people covered, and give people more options...

which it totally would...

i mean they need to do some restructuring of the specifics I think, but lets be honest, personal vendettas are just clear with this spiteful voting process we've been having.

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 02:18 PM
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans.


HOW!?

it's going to COST jobs not create jobs, it's going to put many many private insurance companies out of business, the only jobs it will create, is government bureaucracy type jobs.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:18 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy


dezz the bet with dimboys was him sayin the cowboys owuld have more than 10 wins

I said if PEppers has double digits sacks thats successful... 10 is double digits

ur really trying to make a connection between the two, but there isn't one

he specifically called out that number and said more.

i said double digits because you said he wouldn't be good...

but yet u wont do the bet unless its 11 or more... i think it just shows ur full of pu-pu-platter
ur making an issue where there is none. i just dont want peppers to hit 10 and both of us thinking we won. you keep comparing him to stray so 11 is fair i think


then ur laying 1.5 to 1 because ur obviously backing down from your statement

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:18 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.

You never go to the Dr. anyway. You were almost dead before you decided to go last time...
thats a good point. haha

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 02:19 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.

You never go to the Dr. anyway. You were almost dead before you decided to go last time...


when I did go my Insurance help pay for everything, I ended up paying like 300$ for a 3k+ bill.

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:21 PM
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans.


HOW!?

it's going to COST jobs not create jobs, it's going to put many many private insurance companies out of business, the only jobs it will create, is government bureaucracy type jobs.
yea i agree. they were making a big deal about it yesterday on fox. haha but she really is an idiot

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:21 PM
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans.


HOW!?

it's going to COST jobs not create jobs, it's going to put many many private insurance companies out of business, the only jobs it will create, is government bureaucracy type jobs.


while it may cost some cutbacks in private companies, private companies are still going to exist and be used be those who dont want the national healthcare plan

your creating a whole new "company" by nationlizing it and its going to be the biggest company there is... thats how it would create more jobs

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:22 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy


dezz the bet with dimboys was him sayin the cowboys owuld have more than 10 wins

I said if PEppers has double digits sacks thats successful... 10 is double digits

ur really trying to make a connection between the two, but there isn't one

he specifically called out that number and said more.

i said double digits because you said he wouldn't be good...

but yet u wont do the bet unless its 11 or more... i think it just shows ur full of pu-pu-platter
ur making an issue where there is none. i just dont want peppers to hit 10 and both of us thinking we won. you keep comparing him to stray so 11 is fair i think


then ur laying 1.5 to 1 because ur obviously backing down from your statement
ughhh which "statement"? iv been saying 11 the whole time. stop making this complicated yes or no mother****er!!!! haha

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:22 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.
</P>


Then dont switch providers till there is no longer a provider.

I'm just sick of talking about all this(and every other political debate)....this is 2010...NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is EVER going to be happy with anything...so we should all collectively stop *****ing about **** you have ZERO power over....

or ****ing move....

Not *****ing at you specifically....but youre Daven, I'm Pizzack, and combined, we form PEONS.</P>

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 02:23 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.

You never go to the Dr. anyway. You were almost dead before you decided to go last time...


when I did go my Insurance help pay for everything, I ended up paying like 300$ for a 3k+ bill.

I just wish I had it for my kids. The what if's in life are scary...

One broken arm and I am set back thousands

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:24 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.

You never go to the Dr. anyway. You were almost dead before you decided to go last time...


when I did go my Insurance help pay for everything, I ended up paying like 300$ for a 3k+ bill.


do you not think its going to be the same thing with national healthcare? Like do you yhink if u had national healthcare your going to foot the 3k bill urself?

I mean it would never get passed if that was the case... paranoid republicans lol

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:26 PM
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans.


HOW!?

it's going to COST jobs not create jobs, it's going to put many many private insurance companies out of business, the only jobs it will create, is government bureaucracy type jobs.


while it may cost some cutbacks in private companies, private companies are still going to exist and be used be those who dont want the national healthcare plan

your creating a whole new "company" by nationlizing it and its going to be the biggest company there is... thats how it would create more jobs
</P>


dude. we should totally apply for that job....and when ppl ask where we work...we tell them "The Company"
It's gonna be awesome, dont even worry</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:27 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy


dezz the bet with dimboys was him sayin the cowboys owuld have more than 10 wins

I said if PEppers has double digits sacks thats successful... 10 is double digits

ur really trying to make a connection between the two, but there isn't one

he specifically called out that number and said more.

i said double digits because you said he wouldn't be good...

but yet u wont do the bet unless its 11 or more... i think it just shows ur full of pu-pu-platter
ur making an issue where there is none. i just dont want peppers to hit 10 and both of us thinking we won. you keep comparing him to stray so 11 is fair i think


then ur laying 1.5 to 1 because ur obviously backing down from your statement
ughhh which "statement"? iv been saying 11 the whole time. stop making this complicated yes or no mother****er!!!! haha


ur getting very davenish with me... this is the third time im explaining this to you now

You say he has one year tops of being good, i say put ur money where ur mouth is.

You say whats the terms of the bet, I tell you what im thinkin.with double digits.

Exactly your terms don't coincide with what ur opinion of peppers is going to be, i dont how ur getting lost...

if u would just admit ur talking out of ur *** this can be avoided lol. The fact that u'd even accept 10 sck season as a season that isn't good is ridiculous... where are u getting lost here with what im saying

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:28 PM
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans.


HOW!?

it's going to COST jobs not create jobs, it's going to put many many private insurance companies out of business, the only jobs it will create, is government bureaucracy type jobs.


while it may cost some cutbacks in private companies, private companies are still going to exist and be used be those who dont want the national healthcare plan

your creating a whole new "company" by nationlizing it and its going to be the biggest company there is... thats how it would create more jobs
</p>


dude. we should totally apply for that job....and when ppl ask where we work...we tell them "The Company"
It's gonna be awesome, dont even worry</p>

your a heroes fan aren't you lol

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:29 PM
Dezz let me just ask, is a 10 sack season a good season or not?

we neeed to agree on what a good season is since thats what the bet is based on, you sayin he has one good season left tops.....

and quite frankly im being nice saying double digits cuz i'd say that 8 sacks in a season is a good season. Averagin a sack every two games? Not great, but good

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 02:32 PM
<font color="#0000ff" size="4">DEZZ <font color="#000000"><font size="3">Maybe this will help you...

</font></font></font>The meaning of double digit numbers are numbers 10 through 99

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:33 PM
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans.


HOW!?

it's going to COST jobs not create jobs, it's going to put many many private insurance companies out of business, the only jobs it will create, is government bureaucracy type jobs.


while it may cost some cutbacks in private companies, private companies are still going to exist and be used be those who dont want the national healthcare plan

your creating a whole new "company" by nationlizing it and its going to be the biggest company there is... thats how it would create more jobs
</P>


dude. we should totally apply for that job....and when ppl ask where we work...we tell them "The Company"
It's gonna be awesome, dont even worry</P>




your a heroes fan aren't you lol
</P>


not so much...
Although I recall "The Company" from Prison Break</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:35 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy


dezz the bet with dimboys was him sayin the cowboys owuld have more than 10 wins

I said if PEppers has double digits sacks thats successful... 10 is double digits

ur really trying to make a connection between the two, but there isn't one

he specifically called out that number and said more.

i said double digits because you said he wouldn't be good...

but yet u wont do the bet unless its 11 or more... i think it just shows ur full of pu-pu-platter
ur making an issue where there is none. i just dont want peppers to hit 10 and both of us thinking we won. you keep comparing him to stray so 11 is fair i think


then ur laying 1.5 to 1 because ur obviously backing down from your statement
ughhh which "statement"? iv been saying 11 the whole time. stop making this complicated yes or no mother****er!!!! haha


ur getting very davenish with me... this is the third time im explaining this to you now

You say he has one year tops of being good, i say put ur money where ur mouth is.

You say whats the terms of the bet, I tell you what im thinkin.with double digits.

Exactly your terms don't coincide with what ur opinion of peppers is going to be, i dont how ur getting lost...

if u would just admit ur talking out of ur *** this can be avoided lol. The fact that u'd even accept 10 sck season as a season that isn't good is ridiculous... where are u getting lost here with what im saying
haha . and this is the third time ill say 11 or nooooooooooooothing. loli dont need you to explain anything.

that means 2 years in a row with more then 10 sacks. he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:38 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.

You never go to the Dr. anyway. You were almost dead before you decided to go last time...


when I did go my Insurance help pay for everything, I ended up paying like 300$ for a 3k+ bill.


do you not think its going to be the same thing with national healthcare? Like do you yhink if u had national healthcare your going to foot the 3k bill urself?

I mean it would never get passed if that was the case... paranoid republicans lol
yea but if my dad had the same problems as him my dad would have to wait for treatment.....and God forbid daven needed surgery, he would of had to wait a few months.

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 02:39 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:40 PM
<font color="#0000ff" size="4">DEZZ <font color="#000000"><font size="3">Maybe this will help you...

</font></font></font>The meaning of double digit numbers are numbers 10 through 99


LOL

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:41 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...
am i speaking chinese no ****. isnt that what i just said.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:42 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy


dezz the bet with dimboys was him sayin the cowboys owuld have more than 10 wins

I said if PEppers has double digits sacks thats successful... 10 is double digits

ur really trying to make a connection between the two, but there isn't one

he specifically called out that number and said more.

i said double digits because you said he wouldn't be good...

but yet u wont do the bet unless its 11 or more... i think it just shows ur full of pu-pu-platter
ur making an issue where there is none. i just dont want peppers to hit 10 and both of us thinking we won. you keep comparing him to stray so 11 is fair i think


then ur laying 1.5 to 1 because ur obviously backing down from your statement
ughhh which "statement"? iv been saying 11 the whole time. stop making this complicated yes or no mother****er!!!! haha


ur getting very davenish with me... this is the third time im explaining this to you now

You say he has one year tops of being good, i say put ur money where ur mouth is.

You say whats the terms of the bet, I tell you what im thinkin.with double digits.

Exactly your terms don't coincide with what ur opinion of peppers is going to be, i dont how ur getting lost...

if u would just admit ur talking out of ur *** this can be avoided lol. The fact that u'd even accept 10 sck season as a season that isn't good is ridiculous... where are u getting lost here with what im saying
haha . and this is the third time ill say 11 or nooooooooooooothing. loli dont need you to explain anything.

that means 2 years in a row with more then 10 sacks. he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.




its sad to see a man not back up his opinion...

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:43 PM
Eitehr way I'm paying 1/6th of my paycheck for healthcare, so does it really ****ing matter. I'm sick of this argument. Who ****ing cares. It's lose/lose

I care, I don't want to have to wait on ridiculous lines get lower quality care and pay more money then I'm currently paying, sounds like a bad deal to me.

You never go to the Dr. anyway. You were almost dead before you decided to go last time...


when I did go my Insurance help pay for everything, I ended up paying like 300$ for a 3k+ bill.


do you not think its going to be the same thing with national healthcare? Like do you yhink if u had national healthcare your going to foot the 3k bill urself?

I mean it would never get passed if that was the case... paranoid republicans lol
yea but if my dad had the same problems as him my dad would have to wait for treatment.....and God forbid daven needed surgery, he would of had to wait a few months.


well if thats how u feel about it then u would of kept ur private insurance no?

its not national healthcare or nothing

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 02:44 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...
am i speaking chinese no ****. isnt that what i just said.

First you said 11, then you said more than 10.

10.5 is more than 10 but not 11...

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:45 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...
</P>


"10.5??? You couldnt get the 11th done yourself? Your such alittle beeitch!"</P>

patsrule666
03-03-2010, 02:46 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</P>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:46 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...
am i speaking chinese no ****. isnt that what i just said.

First you said 11, then you said more than 10.

10.5 is more than 10 but not 11...


lol its not chinese, its tarded

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:47 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</p>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</p>

na man he may have his aim hooked up to his text messages...

or maybe hes got alot of hos (if thats the case be proud)


unless ur paying per text message lol

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:47 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</P>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</P>


</P>


only if the cell plan doesnt include unlimited texting. lmao....
Good luck, Pats.
My little brother does over 10,000 a month easily</P>

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 02:49 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</P>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</P>


</P>


mini pats is pimpin.....</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:49 PM
see this is what im sayin dezz lol.. ur saying the guy isn't gonna hold up, but 10 sacks and u win the bet? lol

no.... to avoid the fiasco 9.5 sack, aka 10 i win, 9 u win...

ur so confident hes done why wouldn't u take that?


and this is what IM saying. you only remember what supports your side. the bet would be +10 sacks for 2 years because i dont think hell last after next year. as in after next year his skill will start to diminish. i still think he can put up more then 10 this up coming year


na thats bull**** tho, cuz i didn't evne put a number on it, YOU just said 10+

i said double digit sack season is a successful season... its back there all u gotta do is read
ooook so if a double digit sack season is a succcessful season whats wrong with the deal being 11? why is this an issue?


because its the whole meaning of the bet. Your trying to say he won't be good, but if he has 10 sacks that counts as not being good? Its just ridiculous
matt i could of said the exact same thing with the dimboys bet. 9-8 isnt a successful season but 10 and 6 is?????both can get you into the playoffs, right? im trying to avoid the dimboy issue so we know where we both stand. if you dont want to do 11 we wont do it. easy


dezz the bet with dimboys was him sayin the cowboys owuld have more than 10 wins

I said if PEppers has double digits sacks thats successful... 10 is double digits

ur really trying to make a connection between the two, but there isn't one

he specifically called out that number and said more.

i said double digits because you said he wouldn't be good...

but yet u wont do the bet unless its 11 or more... i think it just shows ur full of pu-pu-platter
ur making an issue where there is none. i just dont want peppers to hit 10 and both of us thinking we won. you keep comparing him to stray so 11 is fair i think


then ur laying 1.5 to 1 because ur obviously backing down from your statement
ughhh which "statement"? iv been saying 11 the whole time. stop making this complicated yes or no mother****er!!!! haha


ur getting very davenish with me... this is the third time im explaining this to you now

You say he has one year tops of being good, i say put ur money where ur mouth is.

You say whats the terms of the bet, I tell you what im thinkin.with double digits.

Exactly your terms don't coincide with what ur opinion of peppers is going to be, i dont how ur getting lost...

if u would just admit ur talking out of ur *** this can be avoided lol. The fact that u'd even accept 10 sck season as a season that isn't good is ridiculous... where are u getting lost here with what im saying
haha . and this is the third time ill say 11 or nooooooooooooothing. loli dont need you to explain anything.

that means 2 years in a row with more then 10 sacks. he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.




its sad to see a man not back up his opinion...
wtf are you taalking about??? what can i say matt, i like even rounded numbers.haha your making a big deal about one more sack. accept it or dont, i dont give a **** man. if you have all this confidence in him why are you sitting on the fence

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:50 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</P>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</P>


</P>


mini pats is pimpin.....</P>


</P>


that sh1t aint easy....</P>

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 02:50 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</p>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</p>
WOW!!! That is alot. I would say it's something to be concerned about as far as who they were going to. Check her phone, you can go to the sent box in the messages and read them all. It might be a violation of her privacy but you pay the bill. Careful and be prepared for what you might find. Sounds like Momma Bear is onto something with this Facebook and texting thing...

patsrule666
03-03-2010, 02:51 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</P>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</P>


</P>


mini pats is pimpin.....</P> This is not helping....

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 02:52 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...
am i speaking chinese no ****. isnt that what i just said.

First you said 11, then you said more than 10.

10.5 is more than 10 but not 11...
ok now your all being vags.

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 02:53 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</P>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</P>



WOW!!! That is alot. I would say it's something to be concerned about as far as who they were going to. Check her phone, you can go to the sent box in the messages and read them all. It might be a violation of her privacy but you pay the bill. Careful and be prepared for what you might find. Sounds like Momma Bear is onto something with this Facebook and texting thing...
</P>


true....not to scare you or anything, but my 16 year old brother got suspended from school for threatening someone via text....he's a ****ing tool though so i'm glad he got in trouble. little *****.
i say you reserve the right to do what he said. Does a kid REALLY have enough of anything to say for that many texts? lol</P>

patsrule666
03-03-2010, 02:55 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...
am i speaking chinese no ****. isnt that what i just said.

First you said 11, then you said more than 10.

10.5 is more than 10 but not 11...
ok now your all being vags.
Just make the bet 10.5 .........No ties that way...

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:55 PM
ur the one talking **** that hes not gonna have a good season, thats the premis i made a bet with you on...

so i ask you one question.. at what number of sacks would be a good season?

its like your trying to pretend this bet was based on something else or said in a different fashion... its all there my man

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 02:56 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...
am i speaking chinese no ****. isnt that what i just said.

First you said 11, then you said more than 10.

10.5 is more than 10 but not 11...
ok now your all being vags.
Just make the bet 10.5 .........No ties that way...

u can have 10.5 sacks

patsrule666
03-03-2010, 02:59 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</P>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</P>



WOW!!! That is alot. I would say it's something to be concerned about as far as who they were going to. Check her phone, you can go to the sent box in the messages and read them all. It might be a violation of her privacy but you pay the bill. Careful and be prepared for what you might find. Sounds like Momma Bear is onto something with this Facebook and texting thing...
</P>


true....not to scare you or anything, but my 16 year old brother got suspended from school for threatening someone via text....he's a ****ing tool though so i'm glad he got in trouble. little *****.
i say you reserve the right to do what he said. Does a kid REALLY have enough of anything to say for that many texts? lol</P>


Jeez- I just told the wifey to calm her *** down. Told her that the novelty will wear off. Not to be concerned...</P>


Now im gonna go in there with guns blazing...wow, i need a drink.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:00 PM
theres this stupid *** idea that goes around these boards that anybody over 30 isn't worth anything...

at positions like RB/WR/DE that idea, is truth.


i'll give you RB

WR ehhhh... not for the top dogs

DE, i dont think it can be further from the truth


I think Favre has proven that QB is further from the truth then DE.

point is, for the more physically demanding positions, that require speed, burst and strength, Age effects their ability sooner then other positions, I think DE is one of those positions, but even if you didn't, it's a 7 year contract, when do you think age "will" start to effect him, assuming, you believe he's actually human.


i guess but DEs lifespans are not as short and even at WR, the best of the best play deep into their careers effectively... I think its safe to say Peppers is the best of the best


ok, but they don't play "As" well as they did earlier in their careers, I'd rather have the next Peppers, coming into his prime, then the current peppers who can only go down from here on out, especially if we are talking a 7 year contract.


let him get double digit sacks for 5 years while still being a force

are u guys forgetting how NFL contracts work anyway? If he end sup playing like **** 3-4 years form now we cut him and have a minimal cap hit...


who knows how the contracts will work, the CBA is up in the air.

I just don't see him being as good as he was/is for much longer and I would rather get the new up and coming stud, or at least try to, as opposed to getting the guy who was already at the top and has nowhere to go but down.
[Y] i see him having 1 more solid year at most


well listen to that, put ur money wher eur mouth is

i'll match any dollar amount u want to throw up
sure, make up some guidelines and well discuss the money


here it is in black and white...


so now what would be a good season dezz, whats the line of having a good season vs not having a good season?

And if you say anything less than 10.5 is not a good season, your full of ****

patsrule666
03-03-2010, 03:02 PM
he had more then 10 last year, pull the trigger you puss.



10.5 is more than 10...
am i speaking chinese no ****. isnt that what i just said.

First you said 11, then you said more than 10.

10.5 is more than 10 but not 11...
ok now your all being vags.
Just make the bet 10.5 .........No ties that way...

u can have 10.5 sacks
O yeah, i was thinkin point spreads.lol.[:$]..and 13,000.</P>


I gotta go.</P>


Peace.</P>

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 03:02 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</p>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</p>



WOW!!! That is alot. I would say it's something to be concerned about as far as who they were going to. Check her phone, you can go to the sent box in the messages and read them all. It might be a violation of her privacy but you pay the bill. Careful and be prepared for what you might find. Sounds like Momma Bear is onto something with this Facebook and texting thing...
</p>


true....not to scare you or anything, but my 16 year old brother got suspended from school for threatening someone via text....he's a ****ing tool though so i'm glad he got in trouble. little *****.
i say you reserve the right to do what he said. Does a kid REALLY have enough of anything to say for that many texts? lol</p>


Jeez- I just told the wifey to calm her *** down. Told her that the novelty will wear off. Not to be concerned...</p>


Now im gonna go in there with guns blazing...wow, i need a drink.</p>
Like I said, it all depends on who she is talking to and what she is saying. You are starting to come into "those" years and TV and movies don't help. I wish you the best and in my eyes you can never be too careful. I think you owe it to yourself to check it out and if something is happening stop it now before...

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:02 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</p>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</p>



WOW!!! That is alot. I would say it's something to be concerned about as far as who they were going to. Check her phone, you can go to the sent box in the messages and read them all. It might be a violation of her privacy but you pay the bill. Careful and be prepared for what you might find. Sounds like Momma Bear is onto something with this Facebook and texting thing...
</p>


true....not to scare you or anything, but my 16 year old brother got suspended from school for threatening someone via text....he's a ****ing tool though so i'm glad he got in trouble. little *****.
i say you reserve the right to do what he said. Does a kid REALLY have enough of anything to say for that many texts? lol</p>


Jeez- I just told the wifey to calm her *** down. Told her that the novelty will wear off. Not to be concerned...</p>


Now im gonna go in there with guns blazing...wow, i need a drink.</p>

beat his *** so bad that he'll become a giants fan! lol

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 03:03 PM
do you not think its going to be the same thing with national healthcare? Like do you yhink if u had national healthcare your going to foot the 3k bill urself?

I mean it would never get passed if that was the case... paranoid republicans lol


Of course I wouldn't have to foot the bill myself, but my Taxes will be going up and I'll STILL have to pay 300-400 dollars anyhow, it'll take longer for me to get "approved" for the treatment, if the specific treatment is even available.

so we could leave it how it is and I could pay 300$ and be done with it....ORRRrrrr

we could put in this plan, I can pay a little more ... 400-500 dollars, pay more in taxes each pay check, wait in longer lines to at best the same care I got before.

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 03:03 PM
wow just forget it

JPizzack
03-03-2010, 03:05 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</P>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</P>



WOW!!! That is alot. I would say it's something to be concerned about as far as who they were going to. Check her phone, you can go to the sent box in the messages and read them all. It might be a violation of her privacy but you pay the bill. Careful and be prepared for what you might find. Sounds like Momma Bear is onto something with this Facebook and texting thing...
</P>


true....not to scare you or anything, but my 16 year old brother got suspended from school for threatening someone via text....he's a ****ing tool though so i'm glad he got in trouble. little *****.
i say you reserve the right to do what he said. Does a kid REALLY have enough of anything to say for that many texts? lol</P>


Jeez- I just told the wifey to calm her *** down. Told her that the novelty will wear off. Not to be concerned...</P>


Now im gonna go in there with guns blazing...wow, i need a drink.</P>



Like I said, it all depends on who she is talking to and what she is saying. You are starting to come into "those" years and TV and movies don't help. I wish you the best and in my eyes you can never be too careful. I think you owe it to yourself to check it out and if something is happening stop it now before...
</P>


yea, I'm all for giving people the benfit of the doubt, but kids think their parents dont know whats going on, so they try to get away with everything. For all we know there is probably nothing to be concerned about, but like i said....wtf does a kid have to talk that much to about?? lol
I'd lay down the law!!! But You guys are parents, I am not [;)]</P>

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 03:06 PM
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans.


HOW!?

it's going to COST jobs not create jobs, it's going to put many many private insurance companies out of business, the only jobs it will create, is government bureaucracy type jobs.


while it may cost some cutbacks in private companies, private companies are still going to exist and be used be those who dont want the national healthcare plan

your creating a whole new "company" by nationlizing it and its going to be the biggest company there is... thats how it would create more jobs
</P>


You poor man.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:07 PM
do you not think its going to be the same thing with national healthcare? Like do you yhink if u had national healthcare your going to foot the 3k bill urself?

I mean it would never get passed if that was the case... paranoid republicans lol


Of course I wouldn't have to foot the bill myself, but my Taxes will be going up and I'll STILL have to pay 300-400 dollars anyhow, it'll take longer for me to get "approved" for the treatment, if the specific treatment is even available.

so we could leave it how it is and I could pay 300$ and be done with it....ORRRrrrr

we could put in this plan, I can pay a little more ... 400-500 dollars, pay more in taxes each pay check, wait in longer lines to at best the same care I got before.


that would ONLY be if u didn't keep ur private insurance.

and theres more people in this country who are not happy with their health insurance.. for you it may not work, but for the majority it would.

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:09 PM
well nancy polosi said the health care bill will offer over 400000 jobs to americans.


HOW!?

it's going to COST jobs not create jobs, it's going to put many many private insurance companies out of business, the only jobs it will create, is government bureaucracy type jobs.


while it may cost some cutbacks in private companies, private companies are still going to exist and be used be those who dont want the national healthcare plan

your creating a whole new "company" by nationlizing it and its going to be the biggest company there is... thats how it would create more jobs
</p>


You poor man.</p>

it may not create 400k jobs, but to say it wouldn't create more jobs is ridiculous

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:10 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:10 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 03:12 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left
no

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 03:12 PM
do you not think its going to be the same thing with national healthcare? Like do you yhink if u had national healthcare your going to foot the 3k bill urself?

I mean it would never get passed if that was the case... paranoid republicans lol


Of course I wouldn't have to foot the bill myself, but my Taxes will be going up and I'll STILL have to pay 300-400 dollars anyhow, it'll take longer for me to get "approved" for the treatment, if the specific treatment is even available.

so we could leave it how it is and I could pay 300$ and be done with it....ORRRrrrr

we could put in this plan, I can pay a little more ... 400-500 dollars, pay more in taxes each pay check, wait in longer lines to at best the same care I got before.


that would ONLY be if u didn't keep ur private insurance.

and theres more people in this country who are not happy with their health insurance.. for you it may not work, but for the majority it would.
</P>


Matt please don't make me cite the Washington Post poll that shows that 83% of Americans are happy with their coverage.</P>


<FONT size=6>83%</FONT></P>


And the Washington Post are Democrat butt boys. My wife and I, my kids, all my friends like their coverage.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:13 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left
no

then man up to the bet

ibleedblue85
03-03-2010, 03:13 PM
<FONT size=5>OMGGGGGGG</FONT></P>


willyou two stop with the arguing already... or ill shut you up! [;)]</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/lolol.jpg</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:15 PM
do you not think its going to be the same thing with national healthcare? Like do you yhink if u had national healthcare your going to foot the 3k bill urself?

I mean it would never get passed if that was the case... paranoid republicans lol


Of course I wouldn't have to foot the bill myself, but my Taxes will be going up and I'll STILL have to pay 300-400 dollars anyhow, it'll take longer for me to get "approved" for the treatment, if the specific treatment is even available.

so we could leave it how it is and I could pay 300$ and be done with it....ORRRrrrr

we could put in this plan, I can pay a little more ... 400-500 dollars, pay more in taxes each pay check, wait in longer lines to at best the same care I got before.


that would ONLY be if u didn't keep ur private insurance.

and theres more people in this country who are not happy with their health insurance.. for you it may not work, but for the majority it would.
</p>


Matt please don't make me cite the Washington Post poll that shows that 83% of Americans are happy with their coverage.</p>


<font size="6">83%</font></p>


And the Washington Post are Democrat butt boys. My wife and I, my kids, all my friends like their coverage.</p>]

you can cite it all you want, but dont' cite it unless it has the target audience and sample size they used...

and what about those that DONT have insurance. Do they not count as americans who should vote if they are happy with the healthcare in this country?

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:17 PM
oh and i forgot to tell you moorehead, i looked up that insurance companies only make 4% profit line...

thats after over head and investing lol.....

can't believe u buy these numbers man....

i got one for you 100% of americans that don't have insurance are not happy with the healthcare in this country

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 03:18 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left
no

then man up to the bet
no cause your a puss. you try to justify how good he is by comparing him to mike, mike was one of the best, a good season for a guy like kiwi and osi is not as good to a guy with mikes standards. 10 sacks for mike is meehhhh cause he can do better and we know that. so if your comparing him to mike +10 shouldnt be to hard

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:22 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left
no

then man up to the bet
no cause your a puss. you try to justify how good he is by comparing him to mike, mike was one of the best, a good season for a guy like kiwi and osi is not as good to a guy with mikes standards. 10 sacks for mike is meehhhh cause he can do better and we know that. so if your comparing him to mike +10 shouldnt be to hard


i think ur your showing ur ***** lips on this one...

you make a comment... get called out on it.... then dont back it up

mike was one of the best, nobody said he wasn't. Infact i said theres no guarantee Peppers will catch Stray. But what i did say was, Peppers is on pace to be close, he is one of the best ever possibly, and he has had a better start to his career than Strahan has....

i dont see what ur so defensive about. And everything I just said, i said multiple times...

like i dont get what ur opinion of peppers is...

are u saying hes not one of the best DEs in the game and isn't on pace to be one of the greatest ever?

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 03:22 PM
So "my oldest" sent out 13,000 text messages last month. A certain lovely lady just called to tell me this.</p>


Is this something i should be concerned about? lol. Because it will be very interesting when i get home...to say the least........</p>



WOW!!! That is alot. I would say it's something to be concerned about as far as who they were going to. Check her phone, you can go to the sent box in the messages and read them all. It might be a violation of her privacy but you pay the bill. Careful and be prepared for what you might find. Sounds like Momma Bear is onto something with this Facebook and texting thing...
</p>


true....not to scare you or anything, but my 16 year old brother got suspended from school for threatening someone via text....he's a ****ing tool though so i'm glad he got in trouble. little *****.
i say you reserve the right to do what he said. Does a kid REALLY have enough of anything to say for that many texts? lol</p>


Jeez- I just told the wifey to calm her *** down. Told her that the novelty will wear off. Not to be concerned...</p>


Now im gonna go in there with guns blazing...wow, i need a drink.</p>



Like I said, it all depends on who she is talking to and what she is saying. You are starting to come into "those" years and TV and movies don't help. I wish you the best and in my eyes you can never be too careful. I think you owe it to yourself to check it out and if something is happening stop it now before...
</p>


yea, I'm all for giving people the benfit of the doubt, but kids think their parents dont know whats going on, so they try to get away with everything.<font color="#0000ff"> For all we know there is probably nothing to be concerned about</font>, but like i said....wtf does a kid have to talk that much to about?? lol
I'd lay down the law!!! But You guys are parents, I am not [;)]</p>
You might be totally right, but this day in age, I will be checking into EVERYTHING...

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 03:34 PM
oh and i forgot to tell you moorehead, i looked up that insurance companies only make 4% profit line...

thats after over head and investing lol.....

can't believe u buy these numbers man....

i got one for you 100% of americans that don't have insurance are not happy with the healthcare in this country
</P>


So lets cover those who don't have insurance with basic, affordable coverage and not overhaul the entire system.</P>


That doesn't take 2700 pages, it takes 1. And by the way, this plan you love so much that the Dems are going to pass has NO public option. It orders all Americans who don't have insurance to buy it from private insurance companies. </P>


Why do you think all the insurance stocks have shot up. This plan is a sell out to the drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:48 PM
oh and i forgot to tell you moorehead, i looked up that insurance companies only make 4% profit line...

thats after over head and investing lol.....

can't believe u buy these numbers man....

i got one for you 100% of americans that don't have insurance are not happy with the healthcare in this country
</p>


So lets cover those who don't have insurance with basic, affordable coverage and not overhaul the entire system.</p>


That doesn't take 2700 pages, it takes 1. And by the way, this plan you love so much that the Dems are going to pass has NO public option. It orders all Americans who don't have insurance to buy it from private insurance companies. </p>


Why do you think all the insurance stocks have shot up. This plan is a sell out to the drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies.</p>

lol u don't get that whole it doesn't take 2700 pages.

really?

This is a very delicate ****in thing, it SHOULD be and in depth document. Everything else is in our country, why would we skimp out on a national healthcare thing?

Define basic coverage that your speaking of.

I already told you many times before the specific plan out there right now I am not in favor of. There needs to be alot of readjusting but I am for the basic aidea of national healthcare

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 03:52 PM
anything that will help more people in this country get treatments that they can't afford, create more jobs, and funnel money thru the system to keep it moving is a good thing in my eyes.

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 03:53 PM
Jim Calhoun supports the healthcare plan

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 03:54 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left
no

then man up to the bet
no cause your a puss. you try to justify how good he is by comparing him to mike, mike was one of the best, a good season for a guy like kiwi and osi is not as good to a guy with mikes standards. 10 sacks for mike is meehhhh cause he can do better and we know that. so if your comparing him to mike +10 shouldnt be to hard


i think ur your showing ur ***** lips on this one...

you make a comment... get called out on it.... then dont back it up

mike was one of the best, nobody said he wasn't. Infact i said theres no guarantee Peppers will catch Stray. But what i did say was, Peppers is on pace to be close, he is one of the best ever possibly, and he has had a better start to his career than Strahan has....

i dont see what ur so defensive about. And everything I just said, i said multiple times...

like i dont get what ur opinion of peppers is...

are u saying hes not one of the best DEs in the game and isn't on pace to be one of the greatest ever?



im not defensive its just useless bickering back and forth and you keep saying "your statement" your comment". which one?! lol the point from the begining is hes not worth 100 mill and hes on the decline. if your going to throw him up there with the greats, a good season is 12 or more sacks. 8, 9 or 10 a season are for the likes of osi and kiwi which are good.

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 03:56 PM
anything that will help more people in this country get treatments that they can't afford, create more jobs, and funnel money thru the system to keep it moving is a good thing in my eyes.
whats more important as of right now in your opinion?

health care or jobs?

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 04:03 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left
no

then man up to the bet
no cause your a puss. you try to justify how good he is by comparing him to mike, mike was one of the best, a good season for a guy like kiwi and osi is not as good to a guy with mikes standards. 10 sacks for mike is meehhhh cause he can do better and we know that. so if your comparing him to mike +10 shouldnt be to hard


i think ur your showing ur ***** lips on this one...

you make a comment... get called out on it.... then dont back it up

mike was one of the best, nobody said he wasn't. Infact i said theres no guarantee Peppers will catch Stray. But what i did say was, Peppers is on pace to be close, he is one of the best ever possibly, and he has had a better start to his career than Strahan has....

i dont see what ur so defensive about. And everything I just said, i said multiple times...

like i dont get what ur opinion of peppers is...

are u saying hes not one of the best DEs in the game and isn't on pace to be one of the greatest ever?



im not defensive its just useless bickering back and forth and you keep saying "your statement" your comment". which one?! lol the point from the begining is hes not worth 100 mill and hes on the decline. if your going to throw him up there with the greats, a good season is 12 or more sacks. 8, 9 or 10 a season are for the likes of osi and kiwi which are good.


which statement? Bro how many ****in times are u gonna get lost in this conversation

YOUR STATEMENT THAT: "PEPPERS HAS ONE GOOD YEAR LEFT TOPS"

THAT STATEMENT


... for now the 5th time, i'm explaining it to you lol

Osi has had only TWO of his SEVEN seasons in double digit sacks

Kiwi has never had more than 8.

Strahan has had 4 seasons of 12 or more sacks... Peppers has already had 3 lol...

none of ur arguments add up

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 04:03 PM
anything that will help more people in this country get treatments that they can't afford, create more jobs, and funnel money thru the system to keep it moving is a good thing in my eyes.
whats more important as of right now in your opinion?

health care or jobs?


the economy

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 04:05 PM
oh and i forgot to tell you moorehead, i looked up that insurance companies only make 4% profit line...

thats after over head and investing lol.....

can't believe u buy these numbers man....

i got one for you 100% of americans that don't have insurance are not happy with the healthcare in this country
</P>


So lets cover those who don't have insurance with basic, affordable coverage and not overhaul the entire system.</P>


That doesn't take 2700 pages, it takes 1. And by the way, this plan you love so much that the Dems are going to pass has NO public option. It orders all Americans who don't have insurance to buy it from private insurance companies. </P>


Why do you think all the insurance stocks have shot up. This plan is a sell out to the drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies.</P>




lol u don't get that whole it doesn't take 2700 pages.

really?

This is a very delicate ****in thing, it SHOULD be and in depth document. Everything else is in our country, why would we skimp out on a national healthcare thing?

Define basic coverage that your speaking of.

I already told you many times before the specific plan out there right now I am not in favor of. There needs to be alot of readjusting but I am for the basic aidea of national healthcare
</P>


240+ years of market driven prosperity would suggest otherwise.</P>


Costs will rise, healthcare will be rationed, and the country will go broke if we have national healthcare.</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 04:05 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left
no

then man up to the bet
no cause your a puss. you try to justify how good he is by comparing him to mike, mike was one of the best, a good season for a guy like kiwi and osi is not as good to a guy with mikes standards. 10 sacks for mike is meehhhh cause he can do better and we know that. so if your comparing him to mike +10 shouldnt be to hard


i think ur your showing ur ***** lips on this one...

you make a comment... get called out on it.... then dont back it up

mike was one of the best, nobody said he wasn't. Infact i said theres no guarantee Peppers will catch Stray. But what i did say was, Peppers is on pace to be close, he is one of the best ever possibly, and he has had a better start to his career than Strahan has....

i dont see what ur so defensive about. And everything I just said, i said multiple times...

like i dont get what ur opinion of peppers is...

are u saying hes not one of the best DEs in the game and isn't on pace to be one of the greatest ever?



im not defensive its just useless bickering back and forth and you keep saying "your statement" your comment". which one?! lol the point from the begining is hes not worth 100 mill and hes on the decline. if your going to throw him up there with the greats, a good season is 12 or more sacks. 8, 9 or 10 a season are for the likes of osi and kiwi which are good.


which statement? Bro how many ****in times are u gonna get lost in this conversation

YOUR STATEMENT THAT: "PEPPERS HAS ONE GOOD YEAR LEFT TOPS"

THAT STATEMENT


... for now the 5th time, i'm explaining it to you lol

Osi has had only TWO of his SEVEN seasons in double digit sacks

Kiwi has never had more than 8.

Strahan has had 4 seasons of 12 or more sacks... Peppers has already had 3 lol...

none of ur arguments add up


oh ok give him 100 mill now then[*-)]
and what does anything you just said have to do with when hell start to decline

Morehead State
03-03-2010, 04:06 PM
Jim Calhoun supports the healthcare plan
</P>


Ha! I'm sure Eli is against it.</P>

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 04:08 PM
anything that will help more people in this country get treatments that they can't afford, create more jobs, and funnel money thru the system to keep it moving is a good thing in my eyes.
whats more important as of right now in your opinion?

health care or jobs?


the economy
which is why many americans are against it

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 04:08 PM
wow just forget it


the official back down.. just admit that it was stupid to say he only has one more good year left
no

then man up to the bet
no cause your a puss. you try to justify how good he is by comparing him to mike, mike was one of the best, a good season for a guy like kiwi and osi is not as good to a guy with mikes standards. 10 sacks for mike is meehhhh cause he can do better and we know that. so if your comparing him to mike +10 shouldnt be to hard


i think ur your showing ur ***** lips on this one...

you make a comment... get called out on it.... then dont back it up

mike was one of the best, nobody said he wasn't. Infact i said theres no guarantee Peppers will catch Stray. But what i did say was, Peppers is on pace to be close, he is one of the best ever possibly, and he has had a better start to his career than Strahan has....

i dont see what ur so defensive about. And everything I just said, i said multiple times...

like i dont get what ur opinion of peppers is...

are u saying hes not one of the best DEs in the game and isn't on pace to be one of the greatest ever?



im not defensive its just useless bickering back and forth and you keep saying "your statement" your comment". which one?! lol the point from the begining is hes not worth 100 mill and hes on the decline. if your going to throw him up there with the greats, a good season is 12 or more sacks. 8, 9 or 10 a season are for the likes of osi and kiwi which are good.


which statement? Bro how many ****in times are u gonna get lost in this conversation

YOUR STATEMENT THAT: "PEPPERS HAS ONE GOOD YEAR LEFT TOPS"

THAT STATEMENT


... for now the 5th time, i'm explaining it to you lol

Osi has had only TWO of his SEVEN seasons in double digit sacks

Kiwi has never had more than 8.

Strahan has had 4 seasons of 12 or more sacks... Peppers has already had 3 lol...

none of ur arguments add up


oh ok give him 100 mill now then[*-)]


lol dude basically what ur saying is that Strahan only had 4 good years, by your standards of what the greats should do

and Strahan had a better second half career than first half... but yet we shouldn't pay peppers lol. if anything you should learn from Strahan that age is a stupid concept in most cases. In freaks like Peppers, for you to be worried baout it is stupid...

and this is how i know you dont understand nfl contracts... cuz u actually think Peppers would get 100 mil if he didn't earn it

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 04:13 PM
oh and i forgot to tell you moorehead, i looked up that insurance companies only make 4% profit line...

thats after over head and investing lol.....

can't believe u buy these numbers man....

i got one for you 100% of americans that don't have insurance are not happy with the healthcare in this country
</p>


So lets cover those who don't have insurance with basic, affordable coverage and not overhaul the entire system.</p>


That doesn't take 2700 pages, it takes 1. And by the way, this plan you love so much that the Dems are going to pass has NO public option. It orders all Americans who don't have insurance to buy it from private insurance companies. </p>


Why do you think all the insurance stocks have shot up. This plan is a sell out to the drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies.</p>




lol u don't get that whole it doesn't take 2700 pages.

really?

This is a very delicate ****in thing, it SHOULD be and in depth document. Everything else is in our country, why would we skimp out on a national healthcare thing?

Define basic coverage that your speaking of.

I already told you many times before the specific plan out there right now I am not in favor of. There needs to be alot of readjusting but I am for the basic aidea of national healthcare
</p>


240+ years of market driven prosperity would suggest otherwise.</p>


Costs will rise, healthcare will be rationed, and the country will go broke if we have national healthcare.</p>

thats a ridiculous statement.

granted it would prolly be a surge in the beginning, your crazy if u think it wouldn't be a money maker for this country.

Your talking about mad money coming in, jobs being created...

the safest business in the WORLD is an insurance company....

u never responded to the sham of a stat u tried throwing at me about the 4% increase yearly ol

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 04:14 PM
anything that will help more people in this country get treatments that they can't afford, create more jobs, and funnel money thru the system to keep it moving is a good thing in my eyes.
whats more important as of right now in your opinion?

health care or jobs?


the economy
which is why many americans are against it


it would be a boost to the economy, maybe not instantly but we're not in an instant fix situation right now...

it would be an injection to this country

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 04:14 PM
ughhh ****in pointless

MattMeyerBud
03-03-2010, 04:18 PM
ughhh ****in pointless


don't get frustrated... i've faught this peppers-strahan war with you based on all of your criteria... trust me its just as frustrating for u as it is for me

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 04:23 PM
Jim Calhoun supports the healthcare plan
</p>


Ha! I'm sure Eli is against it.</p>
I think that is as close to an LOL as we will ever get...

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 04:28 PM
i know alot of people like it, but i hate smokin resin

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 04:31 PM
i hate smokin resin

It's better than nothing...

dezzzR
03-03-2010, 04:32 PM
i hate smokin resin

It's better than nothing...

tooooo true my man, but im still looking under my bed for a g to magically appear haha

bigblue4417
03-03-2010, 04:34 PM
i hate smokin resin

It's better than nothing...

tooooo true my man, but im still looking under my bed for a g to magically appear haha

We call it Black Gold

DavenIII
03-03-2010, 04:53 PM
the safest business in the WORLD is an insurance company....

Then how come they can only manage a meager 3% profit margin.

the fact is it's not the safest business in the world, internet porn probably takes the cake there lol.

Kase-1
03-03-2010, 05:51 PM
i know alot of people like it, but i hate smokin resin
Ohhhhh man....... Poor Dezzy Dezz, too bad u aint a lil closer, ya boy Kase-1 is always around some fresh shiznite

Kase-1
03-03-2010, 05:53 PM
ughhh ****in pointless


don't get frustrated... i've faught this peppers-strahan war with you based on all of your criteria... trust me its just as frustrating for u as it is for me
UGH, what the F did I just walk into......

JPizzack
03-04-2010, 08:28 AM
yo biznatches.</P>


first day in a few weeks that I havent woke up with a headache. lol</P>

Morehead State
03-04-2010, 08:36 AM
oh and i forgot to tell you moorehead, i looked up that insurance companies only make 4% profit line...

thats after over head and investing lol.....

can't believe u buy these numbers man....

i got one for you 100% of americans that don't have insurance are not happy with the healthcare in this country
</P>


So lets cover those who don't have insurance with basic, affordable coverage and not overhaul the entire system.</P>


That doesn't take 2700 pages, it takes 1. And by the way, this plan you love so much that the Dems are going to pass has NO public option. It orders all Americans who don't have insurance to buy it from private insurance companies. </P>


Why do you think all the insurance stocks have shot up. This plan is a sell out to the drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies.</P>




lol u don't get that whole it doesn't take 2700 pages.

really?

This is a very delicate ****in thing, it SHOULD be and in depth document. Everything else is in our country, why would we skimp out on a national healthcare thing?

Define basic coverage that your speaking of.

I already told you many times before the specific plan out there right now I am not in favor of. There needs to be alot of readjusting but I am for the basic aidea of national healthcare
</P>


240+ years of market driven prosperity would suggest otherwise.</P>


Costs will rise, healthcare will be rationed, and the country will go broke if we have national healthcare.</P>




thats a ridiculous statement.

granted it would prolly be a surge in the beginning, your crazy if u think it wouldn't be a money maker for this country.

Your talking about mad money coming in, jobs being created...

the safest business in the WORLD is an insurance company....

u never responded to the sham of a stat u tried throwing at me about the 4% increase yearly ol
</P>


I have no idea what statement you are talking about. I made no such statement.</P>


</P>

JPizzack
03-04-2010, 08:46 AM
Morehead, have the Sox picked up anyone noteworthy in the offseason besides Lackey?
Not starting a debate, I just havent followed them as closely as I should have.

Morehead State
03-04-2010, 09:02 AM
Morehead, have the Sox picked up anyone noteworthy in the offseason besides Lackey?
Not starting a debate, I just havent followed them as closely as I should have.</P>


Actually they have made too many moves as far as I'm concerned.</P>


I like the Marco Scutero move at short but I'm not crazy about Beltre at third (although its a 1 year contract and he seems to perform well when a new contract is a stake) and I also don't like the Mike Cameron move at center.</P>


Our starting lineup right now is:</P>


Beltre, Scutero, Pedroia and Yuke in the infield. Martinez at catcher and Ellsbury, Cameron and Drew in the OF.</P>


BUT, Lester, Lackey, Beckett, Dicey and Bucholtz is a heck of a rotation.</P>


</P>


The new theme is obviously pitching and defense.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-04-2010, 09:28 AM
the safest business in the WORLD is an insurance company....

Then how come they can only manage a meager 3% profit margin.

the fact is it's not the safest business in the world, internet porn probably takes the cake there lol.


LMAO

the one thing that i am really surpirsed at with you and moorehead is that you guys just hear something and take it for what its worth.

Your not questioning who said it or what it really means...

An insurance company made that comment as a PR statement. Whats it based off of? Do you know?

okay, porn and booze... THEN insurance companies

its like the statement that 85% of americans like their healthcare. Lol, thats 85% of americans that HAVE insurance... its twists on words and you guys are just drinking the koolaid....

Don't you want to see the numbers of the 85%?

MattMeyerBud
03-04-2010, 09:29 AM
ughhh ****in pointless


don't get frustrated... i've faught this peppers-strahan war with you based on all of your criteria... trust me its just as frustrating for u as it is for me
UGH, what the F did I just walk into......


its simple kase money...

PEppers had a better first 8 seasons than Strahan by far...

Its no blasphemy its just fact... dezzy just gets worked up aboot it

MattMeyerBud
03-04-2010, 09:32 AM
oh and i forgot to tell you moorehead, i looked up that insurance companies only make 4% profit line...

thats after over head and investing lol.....

can't believe u buy these numbers man....

i got one for you 100% of americans that don't have insurance are not happy with the healthcare in this country
</p>


So lets cover those who don't have insurance with basic, affordable coverage and not overhaul the entire system.</p>


That doesn't take 2700 pages, it takes 1. And by the way, this plan you love so much that the Dems are going to pass has NO public option. It orders all Americans who don't have insurance to buy it from private insurance companies. </p>


Why do you think all the insurance stocks have shot up. This plan is a sell out to the drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies.</p>




lol u don't get that whole it doesn't take 2700 pages.

really?

This is a very delicate ****in thing, it SHOULD be and in depth document. Everything else is in our country, why would we skimp out on a national healthcare thing?

Define basic coverage that your speaking of.

I already told you many times before the specific plan out there right now I am not in favor of. There needs to be alot of readjusting but I am for the basic aidea of national healthcare
</p>


240+ years of market driven prosperity would suggest otherwise.</p>


Costs will rise, healthcare will be rationed, and the country will go broke if we have national healthcare.</p>




thats a ridiculous statement.

granted it would prolly be a surge in the beginning, your crazy if u think it wouldn't be a money maker for this country.

Your talking about mad money coming in, jobs being created...

the safest business in the WORLD is an insurance company....

u never responded to the sham of a stat u tried throwing at me about the 4% increase yearly ol
</p>


I have no idea what statement you are talking about. I made no such statement.</p>


</p>

"country will go broke if we have national healthcare"

MattMeyerBud
03-04-2010, 09:33 AM
Morehead, have the Sox picked up anyone noteworthy in the offseason besides Lackey?
Not starting a debate, I just havent followed them as closely as I should have.

is Papi still there too?

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 09:33 AM
ughhh ****in pointless


don't get frustrated... i've faught this peppers-strahan war with you based on all of your criteria... trust me its just as frustrating for u as it is for me
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PEPPERS AND STRAY!!! it was about if peppers deserved that ridiculous contract matt

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 09:36 AM
oh and i forgot to tell you moorehead, i looked up that insurance companies only make 4% profit line...

thats after over head and investing lol.....

can't believe u buy these numbers man....

i got one for you 100% of americans that don't have insurance are not happy with the healthcare in this country
</p>


So lets cover those who don't have insurance with basic, affordable coverage and not overhaul the entire system.</p>


That doesn't take 2700 pages, it takes 1. And by the way, this plan you love so much that the Dems are going to pass has NO public option. It orders all Americans who don't have insurance to buy it from private insurance companies. </p>


Why do you think all the insurance stocks have shot up. This plan is a sell out to the drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies.</p>




lol u don't get that whole it doesn't take 2700 pages.

really?

This is a very delicate ****in thing, it SHOULD be and in depth document. Everything else is in our country, why would we skimp out on a national healthcare thing?

Define basic coverage that your speaking of.

I already told you many times before the specific plan out there right now I am not in favor of. There needs to be alot of readjusting but I am for the basic aidea of national healthcare
</p>


240+ years of market driven prosperity would suggest otherwise.</p>


Costs will rise, healthcare will be rationed, and the country will go broke if we have national healthcare.</p>




thats a ridiculous statement.

granted it would prolly be a surge in the beginning, your crazy if u think it wouldn't be a money maker for this country.

Your talking about mad money coming in, jobs being created...

the safest business in the WORLD is an insurance company....

u never responded to the sham of a stat u tried throwing at me about the 4% increase yearly ol
</p>


I have no idea what statement you are talking about. I made no such statement.</p>


</p>

"country will go broke if we have national healthcare"
this country can not afford a + 3 trillion dollar bill. those are the facts. enough borrowing from china.

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 09:38 AM
i know alot of people like it, but i hate smokin resin
Ohhhhh man....... Poor Dezzy Dezz, too bad u aint a lil closer, ya boy Kase-1 is always around some fresh shiznite
yeaaaa man im picking up some baaaangers today. and after sitting with this ***** all day im going to need it.

Morehead State
03-04-2010, 09:42 AM
the safest business in the WORLD is an insurance company....

Then how come they can only manage a meager 3% profit margin.

the fact is it's not the safest business in the world, internet porn probably takes the cake there lol.


LMAO

the one thing that i am really surpirsed at with you and moorehead is that you guys just hear something and take it for what its worth.

Your not questioning who said it or what it really means...

An insurance company made that comment as a PR statement. Whats it based off of? Do you know?

okay, porn and booze... THEN insurance companies

its like the statement that 85% of americans like their healthcare. Lol, thats 85% of americans that HAVE insurance... its twists on words and you guys are just drinking the koolaid....

Don't you want to see the numbers of the 85%?


</P>


Matt, I'm not going to argue with you anymore on this. You are looking at it from the perspective of a younger guy still getting his feet underneath him (which is a very noble effort) and is looking for the Federal Government to help. I've been there.</P>


What you aren't looking at is the horrible history of governments ability to efficiently run huge entitlement programs. The corruption and wasteful beaurocracy of both the Medicare and social security programs are driving the to insolvency. This isn't political ideology...its math.</P>


Another nationwide program which would be far larger than those programs is destined to be a disaster. That is if history is our teacher. And it always is.</P>


So lets talk about the Giants or (even better) the Sox.</P>

DavenIII
03-04-2010, 09:47 AM
its like the statement that 85% of americans like their healthcare. Lol, thats 85% of americans that HAVE insurance... its twists on words and you guys are just drinking the koolaid....

Don't you want to see the numbers of the 85%?

You are Drinking the Kool-Aid Matt.

And by the way, the amount of American's without Health Care is less then 10%...COUNTING illegal aliens and younger men and women who CHOOSE not to have health care even though it's available to them, the real number of people without health care, IMHO is likely close to 10-15 million, out of over 300 million people.

and those people STILL can go to free clinics and still must be treated in hospitals anyhow.

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 09:52 AM
hey morehead are you doing the install on your extension?

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 09:54 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/rep-patrick-mchenry-wants-ronald-reagan-on-50-bill/19381942
should reagan replace grant on the 50 dollar bill?

MattMeyerBud
03-04-2010, 09:57 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/rep-patrick-mchenry-wants-ronald-reagan-on-50-bill/19381942
should reagan replace grant on the 50 dollar bill?


no

only person that hsould possibly get the nod is JFK and thats only because of the way he went out...

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 10:02 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/rep-patrick-mchenry-wants-ronald-reagan-on-50-bill/19381942
should reagan replace grant on the 50 dollar bill?


no

only person that hsould possibly get the nod is JFK and thats only because of the way he went out...
i agree with the no, but why jfk? i dont think he deserved his own coin because he was shot. reagan was shot too.

DavenIII
03-04-2010, 10:04 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/rep-patrick-mchenry-wants-ronald-reagan-on-50-bill/19381942
should reagan replace grant on the 50 dollar bill?


Definitely, he's in my top 5 of greatest presidents in history.

He's definitely the best in recent memory.

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 10:05 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/rep-patrick-mchenry-wants-ronald-reagan-on-50-bill/19381942
should reagan replace grant on the 50 dollar bill?


Definitely, he's in my top 5 of greatest presidents in history.

He's definitely the best in recent memory.
i agree 100%. reagan didnt let anyone **** with us and did a great job with the economy. but grant was a big reason we won the civil war. its a tough one for sure.

MattMeyerBud
03-04-2010, 10:06 AM
ughhh ****in pointless


don't get frustrated... i've faught this peppers-strahan war with you based on all of your criteria... trust me its just as frustrating for u as it is for me
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PEPPERS AND STRAY!!! it was about if peppers deserved that ridiculous contract matt


I really don't even know how to respond to that at this point

DavenIII
03-04-2010, 10:08 AM
ughhh ****in pointless


don't get frustrated... i've faught this peppers-strahan war with you based on all of your criteria... trust me its just as frustrating for u as it is for me
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PEPPERS AND STRAY!!! it was about if peppers deserved that ridiculous contract matt


I really don't even know how to respond to that at this point


Dez is kinda right though, it's not about Stray vs Peppers it's about 7 years 100 million to peppers...good or bad.

I'm on the fence, I know how good peppers is but as you know, I'm not big on giving guys in their 30's long contracts.

MattMeyerBud
03-04-2010, 10:09 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/rep-patrick-mchenry-wants-ronald-reagan-on-50-bill/19381942
should reagan replace grant on the 50 dollar bill?


Definitely, he's in my top 5 of greatest presidents in history.

He's definitely the best in recent memory.
i agree 100%. reagan didnt let anyone **** with us and did a great job with the economy. but grant was a big reason we won the civil war. its a tough one for sure.


if it ain't broken, why fix it

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 10:10 AM
ughhh ****in pointless


don't get frustrated... i've faught this peppers-strahan war with you based on all of your criteria... trust me its just as frustrating for u as it is for me
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PEPPERS AND STRAY!!! it was about if peppers deserved that ridiculous contract matt


I really don't even know how to respond to that at this point
so just dont.haha i was making a point about stray and then it became the pepper stray debate IN YOUR MIND. lol

dezzzR
03-04-2010, 10:11 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/rep-patrick-mchenry-wants-ronald-reagan-on-50-bill/19381942
should reagan replace grant on the 50 dollar bill?


Definitely, he's in my top 5 of greatest presidents in history.

He's definitely the best in recent memory.
i agree 100%. reagan didnt let anyone **** with us and did a great job with the economy. but grant was a big reason we won the civil war. its a tough one for sure.


if it ain't broken, why fix it
yeaaaaa your right.

MattMeyerBud
03-04-2010, 10:11 AM
ughhh ****in pointless


don't get frustrated... i've faught this peppers-strahan war with you based on all of your criteria... trust me its just as frustrating for u as it is for me
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PEPPERS AND STRAY!!! it was about if peppers deserved that ridiculous contract matt


I really don't even know how to respond to that at this point


Dez is kinda right though, it's not about Stray vs Peppers it's about 7 years 100 million to peppers...good or bad.

I'm on the fence, I know how good peppers is but as you know, I'm not big on giving guys in their 30's long contracts.


we'll we're inthe year of inflated contracts, its 2010 and uncapped.

I could care less about length. And to be honest with no cap right now, i could care less about money too....

i ain't paying for it either are any of you

Morehead State
03-04-2010, 10:14 AM
hey morehead are you doing the install on your extension?
</P>


No I'm not. We've hired proffessionals. I can do things like build decks,install floors, tiling etc. but this kind of effort is above my paygrade.</P>