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MattMeyerBud
04-22-2010, 09:09 PM
i think were trying to trade down

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 09:10 PM
DE from Georgia Tech is who I want...

<font color="#ff0000">Or Clausen</font>

ny06
04-22-2010, 09:12 PM
I rushed home from work... Just in time

Kase-1
04-22-2010, 09:12 PM
DE from Georgia Tech is who I want...

<font color="#ff0000">Or Clausen</font>
Ugh, we dont need another DE, hell only 2 can be on the field at the same time, LOL

dezzzR
04-22-2010, 09:12 PM
stfu steve young you ***got

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 09:12 PM
DE from Georgia Tech is who I want...

<font color="#ff0000">Or Clausen</font>
Ugh, we dont need another DE, hell only 2 can be on the field at the same time, LOL

Dude is a GIANT. ACC Defensive Player of the Year. We will see. It will be fun. I am anxious!!!

Kase-1
04-22-2010, 09:13 PM
If we get Bulaga or a DE Im gonna vomit and cry all over my comp

ShockeyShow
04-22-2010, 09:13 PM
With the 15th pick....the new york giants take.....JOHN WALL!!!!

MattMeyerBud
04-22-2010, 09:13 PM
Osi's gone

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 09:13 PM
It's JPP.

ny06
04-22-2010, 09:13 PM
welcome to the Giants JPP

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 09:14 PM
With the 15th pick....the new york giants take.....JOHN WALL!!!!
Where you been ya ****?

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:15 PM
With the 15th pick....the new york giants take.....JOHN WALL!!!!
Where you been ya ****?
</P>


Morehead was right.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-22-2010, 09:15 PM
trade up n get spikes?</P>

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:15 PM
Welcome to NY, JPP!!! A man who shares VERY similar initials with everyone's favorite poster!!

Guess that mean's Osi might be around till contract is out? Can't imagine trading him for 5...yuck!

MattMeyerBud
04-22-2010, 09:17 PM
im notbelieving that... maybe we use Osi to trade up our 2nd rounder n get Spikes or Weatherspoon...</P>


</P>


like we should of last year with mualuga</P>

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 09:17 PM
Morehead was right.
I approve this message

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:17 PM
With the 15th pick....the new york giants take.....JOHN WALL!!!!
Where you been ya ****?
</p>


Morehead was right.</p>

actually...you were wrong. you swore all day: SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:17 PM
trade up n get spikes?</P>


</P>


With McClain going to Oakland, why wouldn't we now trade for Morrison with a 4th.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-22-2010, 09:18 PM
trade up n get spikes?</P>


</P>


With McClain going to Oakland, why wouldn't we now trade for Morrison with a 4th.</P>


</P>


</P>


i agree...thats amove that totally makes sense now</P>

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:19 PM
With the 15th pick....the new york giants take.....JOHN WALL!!!!
Where you been ya ****?
</P>


Morehead was right.</P>




actually...you were wrong. you swore all day: SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY
</P>


No, I said that if Thomas was there we should take him. he wasn't.</P>


i just bumped my thread from last night predicting exactly what happened.</P>


EXACTLY!</P>

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 09:19 PM
With the 15th pick....the new york giants take.....JOHN WALL!!!!
Where you been ya ****?
</p>


Morehead was right.</p>

actually...you were wrong. you swore all day: SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY

He said if Earl was there we would take him, if not it would be JPP. He nailed it...

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:20 PM
im notbelieving that... maybe we use Osi to trade up our 2nd rounder n get Spikes or Weatherspoon...</p>


</p>


like we should of last year with mualuga</p>

orr.....maybe we jsut dontdraft a good LB for the rest of our young lives. lol

Kase-1
04-22-2010, 09:21 PM
If we get Bulaga or a DE Im gonna vomit and cry all over my comp
Time to clean up...... [:(]

...Good thing I got a pint of Jame-O and some Kush, cause this SUCKS!!!!!

Its not lookin good for my boy Osi

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:21 PM
Here's my thread from last night.</P>


http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/1736173.aspx (/forums/thread/1736173.aspx)</P>

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:23 PM
trade up n get spikes?</p>


</p>


With McClain going to Oakland, why wouldn't we now trade for Morrison with a 4th.</p>

I thought that AS SOON as they drafted him. we're all on the same page. lol

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:24 PM
im notbelieving that... maybe we use Osi to trade up our 2nd rounder n get Spikes or Weatherspoon...</P>


</P>


like we should of last year with mualuga</P>


</P>


Maybe we should package our 2nd with Osi to get back in the 1st round for Spoon.</P>


I still think Morrison is expendable for Oakland and we should jump all over that.</P>

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:26 PM
holy ****....

Mike Iupati is the biggest mofo i've ever seen.....

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:27 PM
I hope Denver drafts Tebow for 2 reasons.</P>


1) He's a nice kid</P>


and</P>


2) It would piss off Pizzey.</P>

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:29 PM
I hope Denver drafts Tebow for 2 reasons.</p>


1) He's a nice kid</p>


and</p>


2) It would piss off Pizzey.</p>

lol, cuz I think Tebow is redneck trash, or because I love Knowshon?

MattMeyerBud
04-22-2010, 09:29 PM
I hope Denver drafts Tebow for 2 reasons.</P>


1) He's a nice kid</P>


and</P>


2) It would piss off Pizzey.</P>


</P>


</P>


him n clausen will b interesting</P>

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:32 PM
I hope Denver drafts Tebow for 2 reasons.</P>


1) He's a nice kid</P>


and</P>


2) It would piss off Pizzey.</P>




lol, cuz I think Tebow is redneck trash, or because I love Knowshon?
</P>


Morehead will be picking Knowshon early in our FF draft in Sept.</P>

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:33 PM
I hope Denver drafts Tebow for 2 reasons.</p>


1) He's a nice kid</p>


and</p>


2) It would piss off Pizzey.</p>




lol, cuz I think Tebow is redneck trash, or because I love Knowshon?
</p>


Morehead will be picking Knowshon early in our FF draft in Sept.</p>

hehe LEGIT

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO GEORGIA BUUUUULLLLDOGS!!!!

patsrule666
04-22-2010, 09:33 PM
Nice pick with JPP guys.

Odrick just might fall to us. woohoo.

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:34 PM
Don't worry fellow Gmen fans....we'll fix our LB problems in 2017!! No need to be concerned.

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:34 PM
How dumb was Philly. They could have stayed at 24 at probably got the same kid. I couldn't believe they traded up and didn't pick Thomas. So glad he won't be haunting us twice a year.

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:35 PM
I hope Denver drafts Tebow for 2 reasons.</P>


1) He's a nice kid</P>


and</P>


2) It would piss off Pizzey.</P>




lol, cuz I think Tebow is redneck trash, or because I love Knowshon?
</P>


Morehead will be picking Knowshon early in our FF draft in Sept.</P>




hehe LEGIT

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO GEORGIA BUUUUULLLLDOGS!!!!
</P>


I loved Lindsey Scott too!</P>

patsrule666
04-22-2010, 09:36 PM
Pats. im looking up cards on ebay....what does PSA 8 PSA 10 etc etc mean?? is that quality?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-86-Fleer-120-Spud-Webb-rookie-card-PSA-10-/270315898851?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3ef01547e3

i have that card mint condition....is it really worth that much!??!
Near mint, Mint, Gem mint, etc.
Kind of like coins.

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:37 PM
Pats. im looking up cards on ebay....what does PSA 8 PSA 10 etc etc mean?? is that quality?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-86-Fleer-120-Spud-Webb-rookie-card-PSA-10-/270315898851?cmd=ViewItem&amp;pt=US_Basketball&amp;hash=it em3ef01547e3

i have that card mint condition....is it really worth that much!??!
Near mint, Mint, Gem mint, etc.
Kind of like coins.

so is my spud webb card worth that much!?!? thought that was od when i saw it lol

byron
04-22-2010, 09:39 PM
Don't worry fellow Gmen fans....we'll fix our LB problems in 2017!! No need to be concerned.
I don't get it ...whatever...jpp looks shinny to me... prefect teeth... I was looking for someone missing a tooth or two and alittle crazy...wtf..;)

Morehead State
04-22-2010, 09:39 PM
This is for you Pizzey. Most famous play in UGA history.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhWVvsrq5k</P>


</P>

patsrule666
04-22-2010, 09:45 PM
Pats. im looking up cards on ebay....what does PSA 8 PSA 10 etc etc mean?? is that quality?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-86-Fleer-120-Spud-Webb-rookie-card-PSA-10-/270315898851?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3ef01547e3

i have that card mint condition....is it really worth that much!??!
Near mint, Mint, Gem mint, etc.
Kind of like coins.

so is my spud webb card worth that much!?!? thought that was od when i saw it lol

how much does it say the value is?
im on our new computer here, and im all screwed up here. lol
Yes, we just moved back..

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:50 PM
Pats. im looking up cards on ebay....what does PSA 8 PSA 10 etc etc mean?? is that quality?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-86-Fleer-120-Spud-Webb-rookie-card-PSA-10-/270315898851?cmd=ViewItem&amp;pt=US_Basketball&amp;hash=it em3ef01547e3

i have that card mint condition....is it really worth that much!??!
Near mint, Mint, Gem mint, etc.
Kind of like coins.

so is my spud webb card worth that much!?!? thought that was od when i saw it lol

how much does it say the value is?
im on our new computer here, and im all screwed up here. lol
Yes, we just moved back..

PSA 10 = $299.00

i find it hard to believe...but w/e lol

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 09:52 PM
Pats. im looking up cards on ebay....what does PSA 8 PSA 10 etc etc mean?? is that quality?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-86-Fleer-120-Spud-Webb-rookie-card-PSA-10-/270315898851?cmd=ViewItem&amp;pt=US_Basketball&amp;hash=it em3ef01547e3

i have that card mint condition....is it really worth that much!??!
Near mint, Mint, Gem mint, etc.
Kind of like coins.

so is my spud webb card worth that much!?!? thought that was od when i saw it lol

how much does it say the value is?
im on our new computer here, and im all screwed up here. lol
Yes, we just moved back..

PSA 10 = $299.00

i find it hard to believe...but w/e lol


I'm just gonna grab some beckett's this weekend and get some ideas. i hate the internet lol

patsrule666
04-22-2010, 10:00 PM
Pats. im looking up cards on ebay....what does PSA 8 PSA 10 etc etc mean?? is that quality?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-86-Fleer-120-Spud-Webb-rookie-card-PSA-10-/270315898851?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3ef01547e3

i have that card mint condition....is it really worth that much!??!
Near mint, Mint, Gem mint, etc.
Kind of like coins.

so is my spud webb card worth that much!?!? thought that was od when i saw it lol

how much does it say the value is?
im on our new computer here, and im all screwed up here. lol
Yes, we just moved back..

PSA 10 = $299.00

i find it hard to believe...but w/e lol


I'm just gonna grab some beckett's this weekend and get some ideas. i hate the internet lol
My Beckett says 225 for a gem mint. i can look up any cards for you.
This computer is slow as hell.and i have to keep running back down stairs to check on draft.

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 10:04 PM
Pats. im looking up cards on ebay....what does PSA 8 PSA 10 etc etc mean?? is that quality?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-86-Fleer-120-Spud-Webb-rookie-card-PSA-10-/270315898851?cmd=ViewItem&amp;pt=US_Basketball&amp;hash=it em3ef01547e3

i have that card mint condition....is it really worth that much!??!
Near mint, Mint, Gem mint, etc.
Kind of like coins.

so is my spud webb card worth that much!?!? thought that was od when i saw it lol

how much does it say the value is?
im on our new computer here, and im all screwed up here. lol
Yes, we just moved back..

PSA 10 = $299.00

i find it hard to believe...but w/e lol


I'm just gonna grab some beckett's this weekend and get some ideas. i hate the internet lol
My Beckett says 225 for a gem mint. i can look up any cards for you.
This computer is slow as hell.and i have to keep running back down stairs to check on draft.

wow! thats nuts. i thik i got that card for like $2!! lol

patsrule666
04-22-2010, 10:12 PM
Pats. im looking up cards on ebay....what does PSA 8 PSA 10 etc etc mean?? is that quality?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-86-Fleer-120-Spud-Webb-rookie-card-PSA-10-/270315898851?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3ef01547e3

i have that card mint condition....is it really worth that much!??!
Near mint, Mint, Gem mint, etc.
Kind of like coins.

so is my spud webb card worth that much!?!? thought that was od when i saw it lol

how much does it say the value is?
im on our new computer here, and im all screwed up here. lol
Yes, we just moved back..

PSA 10 = $299.00

i find it hard to believe...but w/e lol


I'm just gonna grab some beckett's this weekend and get some ideas. i hate the internet lol
My Beckett says 225 for a gem mint. i can look up any cards for you.
This computer is slow as hell.and i have to keep running back down stairs to check on draft.

wow! thats nuts. i thik i got that card for like $2!! lol
ok im officialy going nuts here with the draft on espn...lol.
Gems are hard to come by. any little flaw in the card degrades it.
A mint books for 50, which is not bad at all.

Hopefully with all these extra picks we can get Decker the WR.

Tebow to Broncos...lmao.

patsrule666
04-22-2010, 10:14 PM
With the 15th pick....the new york giants take.....JOHN WALL!!!!
Where you been ya ****?
</P>


Morehead was right.</P>




actually...you were wrong. you swore all day: SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY
</P>


No, I said that if Thomas was there we should take him.* he wasn't.</P>


i just bumped my thread from last night predicting exactly what happened.</P>


EXACTLY!</P> Nice call.....

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 10:15 PM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 10:17 PM
Gems are hard to come by. any little flaw in the card degrades it.
A mint books for 50, which is not bad at all..

this thing looks like it was just pulled out of a pack...so I mean...in my eyes it's flawless.....actually...when I got it, the card shop owner paid some asinine amount of $$ to get an unopened box of the fleer. was charging some crazy amount per pack cuz the Jordan RC. some guys sold me some of the other cards fairly cheap to comp some money back.

ny06
04-22-2010, 10:20 PM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol


I do not like Tebow at all.

Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 10:25 PM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol


I do not like Tebow at all.

Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

I pretty much hate everything about tebow....florida....redneck....religious freak who rubs it in your face....ugh....theres nothing good about him. he gives a bad name to Christianity...and im not even religious anymore lol

JPizzack
04-22-2010, 10:30 PM
k guys. gnite.

i'll talk football with ya tomorrow.

patsrule666
04-22-2010, 10:31 PM
I like this kid McCourty. not my first choice, but i still like.

We will make some noise tomorrow.

I cant believe how much they cheered for us over there in NY...lol. they really do love us...

patsrule666
04-22-2010, 10:32 PM
k guys. gnite.

i'll talk football with ya tomorrow.
Yeah im out as well Peace and good luck tomorrow.

bandwgn86
04-22-2010, 11:14 PM
Whats a Jason Pierre-Paul?

byron
04-22-2010, 11:14 PM
some talk about this guy</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6FErsTC47s&amp;feature=related</P>


I don't know but I want mlb..damit</P>

byron
04-22-2010, 11:15 PM
Whats a Jason Pierre-Paul? shinny DE ;)</P>


got nice teeth</P>


edit ..sorry Bw haven't studied up on him...bpa...guess</P>

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 11:26 PM
I am happy for Tebow, I hope he does well and it seems like a great fit for him.

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 11:30 PM
I hope Denver drafts Tebow for 2 reasons.</p>


1) He's a nice kid</p>


and</p>


2) It would piss off Pizzey.</p>
Your new nickname is Mel Kiper, but with better hair and the sexiest stache east of the Mississippi

bandwgn86
04-22-2010, 11:31 PM
Whats a Jason Pierre-Paul? shinny DE ;)</P>


got nice teeth</P>


edit ..sorry Bw haven't* studied up on him...bpa...guess</P>i'm confused didnt we need a lb

bigblue4417
04-22-2010, 11:31 PM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab39/jamiewagnor28/Sexy%20Guys/3780491417_64cfd0fe5c.jpg

bandwgn86
04-22-2010, 11:40 PM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab39/jamiewagnor28/Sexy%20Guys/3780491417_64cfd0fe5c.jpg
thats what i look like

byron
04-23-2010, 12:05 AM
I hope Denver drafts Tebow for 2 reasons.</P>


1) He's a nice kid</P>


and</P>


2) It would piss off Pizzey.</P>
Your new nickname is Mel Kiper, but with better hair and the sexiest stache east of the Mississippi
not sure he's going to like this.....Morehead Kiper..nice ring to it tho....

byron
04-23-2010, 12:45 AM
Whats a Jason Pierre-Paul? shinny DE ;)</P>


got nice teeth</P>


edit ..sorry Bw haven't studied up on him...bpa...guess</P>i'm confused didnt we need a lb we will get him tommorow..lol...looks like bpa plays big.... in the first round anyway....we take what they get us ...welcome toJPP....our new DE

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 08:29 AM
Mornin

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 08:52 AM
ugh the nasty **** i hawk up in the morning.......ciggs will be the death of me.

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 08:54 AM
Whats a Jason Pierre-Paul?great question. im not impressed. although the film i saw he looks like a justin tuck. gargantuan shoulders like HE-MAN

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 08:57 AM
and did i hear he only played one year in college? meehhhhhhhhh......

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:02 AM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol
I do not like Tebow at all. Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

I pretty much hate everything about tebow....florida....redneck....religious freak who rubs it in your face....ugh....theres nothing good about him. he gives a bad name to Christianity...and im not even religious anymore lol
</P>


Let it go Pizz. A couple of your posts have been down right ugly.</P>


I'm going to try hard to forget that you wrote them.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 09:03 AM
<h1 id="watch-headline-title"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-1e6***lw&amp;feature=player_embedded"><span class="long-title" title="2009 iBowl Back Flip Contest Jason Pierre-Paul vs. Kion Wilson">2009 iBowl Back Flip Contest Jason Pierre-Paul vs. Kion Wilson
</span></a></h1>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:09 AM
<h1 id="watch-headline-title"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-1e6***lw&amp;feature=player_embedded"><span class="long-title" title="2009 iBowl Back Flip Contest Jason Pierre-Paul vs. Kion Wilson">2009 iBowl Back Flip Contest Jason Pierre-Paul vs. Kion Wilson
</span></a></h1>

great..

he can backflip

lol

Im trying to optimistic about the pick, but i just dont like it...

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 09:10 AM
<h1 id="watch-headline-title"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-1e6***lw&amp;feature=player_embedded"><span class="long-title" title="2009 iBowl Back Flip Contest Jason Pierre-Paul vs. Kion Wilson">2009 iBowl Back Flip Contest Jason Pierre-Paul vs. Kion Wilson
</span></a></h1>maybe hell do that over adams so he wont get tripped.
yea hes tremendous

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 09:13 AM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol
I do not like Tebow at all. Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

I pretty much hate everything about tebow....florida....redneck....religious freak who rubs it in your face....ugh....theres nothing good about him. he gives a bad name to Christianity...and im not even religious anymore lol
</P>


Let it go Pizz. A couple of your posts have been down right ugly.</P>


I'm going to try hard to forget that you wrote them.</P>


</P>


why,cuz you love him and I think he's the anti-christ?</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:15 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:17 AM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol
I do not like Tebow at all. Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

I pretty much hate everything about tebow....florida....redneck....religious freak who rubs it in your face....ugh....theres nothing good about him. he gives a bad name to Christianity...and im not even religious anymore lol
</P>


Let it go Pizz. A couple of your posts have been down right ugly.</P>


I'm going to try hard to forget that you wrote them.</P>


</P>


why,cuz you love him and I think he's the anti-christ?</P>


</P>


I don't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other.</P>


I suppose its not cool or hip to like Tim Tebow. Thats probably the biggest reason I like him.</P>


I just think your comments are over the top. Thats all I will say at this time.</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 09:20 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
</P>


Yea thats kinda what I was saying last night........
ONE day we'll fix our LB situ =\</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 09:21 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:21 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
</P>


If you remember the 07 season. We used Tuck, Osi, Kiwi and Strahan on the D line in passing situations. It was an unstoppable combo. Just ask time Brady and the 19 times he had to pick his *** off the turf.</P>


Plus, Tuck has been worn out the last two years without that rotation. We have also been poor at getting to the QB since the middle of the 08 season. This was the top player available and everyone knows that Tenn. was primed to take him at 16.</P>


I still think Osi will be gone at some point in the not to distant future, but regardless, this is a very good pick.</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 09:25 AM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol
I do not like Tebow at all. Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

I pretty much hate everything about tebow....florida....redneck....religious freak who rubs it in your face....ugh....theres nothing good about him. he gives a bad name to Christianity...and im not even religious anymore lol
</P>


Let it go Pizz. A couple of your posts have been down right ugly.</P>


I'm going to try hard to forget that you wrote them.</P>


</P>


why,cuz you love him and I think he's the anti-christ?</P>


</P>


I don't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other.</P>


I suppose its not cool or hip to like Tim Tebow. Thats probably the biggest reason I like him.</P>


I just think your comments are over the top. Thats all I will say at this time.</P>


</P>


thats fine with me. If you want to know why i dont like him, I'll gladly tell you...</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 09:25 AM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol
I do not like Tebow at all. Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

I pretty much hate everything about tebow....florida....redneck....religious freak who rubs it in your face....ugh....theres nothing good about him. he gives a bad name to Christianity...and im not even religious anymore lol
</p>


Let it go Pizz. A couple of your posts have been down right ugly.</p>


I'm going to try hard to forget that you wrote them.</p>


</p>


why,cuz you love him and I think he's the anti-christ?</p>


</p>


I don't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other.</p>


I suppose its not cool or hip to like Tim Tebow. Thats probably the biggest reason I like him.</p>


I just think your comments are over the top. Thats all I will say at this time.</p>saying his mother should of swallowed him was over the top?lol
the hate you have for a guy who hasnt played a down in the nfl yet is pretty amusing.
he just wants to save zygotes man

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:26 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</P>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</P>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</P>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</P>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 09:26 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
</p>


If you remember the 07 season. We used Tuck, Osi, Kiwi and Strahan on the D line in passing situations. It was an unstoppable combo. Just ask time Brady and the 19 times he had to pick his *** off the turf.</p>


Plus, Tuck has been worn out the last two years without that rotation. We have also been poor at getting to the QB since the middle of the 08 season. This was the top player available and everyone knows that Tenn. was primed to take him at 16.</p>


I still think Osi will be gone at some point in the not to distant future, but regardless, this is a very good pick.</p> we had a pretty decent linebacker core too mh

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 09:27 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</P>


I see him as more of a passrusher, and that's NOT what we need.
We let teams run all over us, and the line NOR the backers ever stop it. and forget it if the qb dumps a pass over the line....we might as well split the jerseys like the red sea and give up TDs.
From a fan's standpoint, it's so obvious to me. I dont know how the Giants org can be happy with the awful LBs we have.</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:28 AM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol
I do not like Tebow at all. Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

I pretty much hate everything about tebow....florida....redneck....religious freak who rubs it in your face....ugh....theres nothing good about him. he gives a bad name to Christianity...and im not even religious anymore lol
</P>


Let it go Pizz. A couple of your posts have been down right ugly.</P>


I'm going to try hard to forget that you wrote them.</P>


</P>


why,cuz you love him and I think he's the anti-christ?</P>


</P>


I don't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other.</P>


I suppose its not cool or hip to like Tim Tebow. Thats probably the biggest reason I like him.</P>


I just think your comments are over the top. Thats all I will say at this time.</P>


</P>


thats fine with me. If you want to know why i dont like him, I'll gladly tell you...</P>


</P>


I think you already have. Maybe we should drop it. I hated what I read from you. But thats just one old mans view.</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:32 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
</P>


If you remember the 07 season. We used Tuck, Osi, Kiwi and Strahan on the D line in passing situations. It was an unstoppable combo. Just ask time Brady and the 19 times he had to pick his *** off the turf.</P>


Plus, Tuck has been worn out the last two years without that rotation. We have also been poor at getting to the QB since the middle of the 08 season. This was the top player available and everyone knows that Tenn. was primed to take him at 16.</P>


I still think Osi will be gone at some point in the not to distant future, but regardless, this is a very good pick.</P>


we had a pretty decent linebacker core too mh
</P>


Pierce, Torbor and Mitchell. </P>


Torbor and Mitchell were not exactly Hall of Famers.</P>


You guys have to look at Perry Fewells defenses. They are all about pass defense. And someone said we don't need pass rushing. That is completely wrong. Since the middle of 08, opposing QB's have been able to count the house on us. I would submit that after we signed Rolle, our ability to get to the QB is our largest weekness.</P>


Look at our sacks during that period. Horrible!</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 09:36 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
</p>


If you remember the 07 season. We used Tuck, Osi, Kiwi and Strahan on the D line in passing situations. It was an unstoppable combo. Just ask time Brady and the 19 times he had to pick his *** off the turf.</p>


Plus, Tuck has been worn out the last two years without that rotation. We have also been poor at getting to the QB since the middle of the 08 season. This was the top player available and everyone knows that Tenn. was primed to take him at 16.</p>


I still think Osi will be gone at some point in the not to distant future, but regardless, this is a very good pick.</p>


we had a pretty decent linebacker core too mh
</p>


Pierce, Torbor and Mitchell. </p>


Torbor and Mitchell were not exactly Hall of Famers.</p>


You guys have to look at Perry Fewells defenses. They are all about pass defense. And someone said we don't need pass rushing. That is completely wrong. Since the middle of 08, opposing QB's have been able to count the house on us. I would submit that after we signed Rolle, our ability to get to the QB is our largest weekness.</p>


Look at our sacks during that period. Horrible!</p>pierce and mitchell were above average.yea you can never have to many pass rushers, but were still desperate for a mlb.

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 09:37 AM
sorry MH...youre right...</P>


bashing people we dont even know is totally out of character for sports fans. lol</P>


sorry if I offended you, even if I dont think it has anything to do with the amazing relationship I share with you hehe =]</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 09:40 AM
Im trying to optimistic about the pick, but i just dont like it...

I don't know much about him. He seems like a freak of nature. I am kind of with you but some people like it. I would like to hear what Slip or NYCSportsfan says about him. They know college. So does K-1

If Kiper State likes then pick then LandoLincoln does to.

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:42 AM
sorry MH...youre right...</P>


bashing people we dont even know is totally out of character for sports fans. lol</P>


sorry if I offended you, even if I dont think it has anything to do with the amazing relationship I share with you hehe =]</P>


</P>


Of course.A guys position on abortion, his religion and his Mother's sexual tendancies are all very relavent to his draft status. What was I thinking?</P>


And I didn't think there was anything wrong with our relationship.</P>


</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 09:44 AM
We could still land a solid LB in the 2nd rd. Some good people are still on the board.

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 09:44 AM
Im trying to optimistic about the pick, but i just dont like it...

I don't know much about him. He seems like a freak of nature. I am kind of with you but some people like it. I would like to hear what Slip or NYCSportsfan says about him. They know college. So does K-1
</P>


I DO like JPP....I just dont know why we picked him. I'm ok with it I suppose.
I saw him on ESPN's Sports Science last week, and he hit the heavy bag off the line HARDER than any other DT or DE. with more force and strength or something. They than showed him doing back handsprings the length of that indoor field they use, in full pads, and explained how much weight it is to do that for his size, and yes....he is a genetic freak in that respect lol. his highlights dont show any of that though, which is why im slightly concerned. </P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:45 AM
Denver is gay. I hope Tebow never sees the field. **** that fairy....the load his mother shoulda swallowed. just ask her....she had no choice but to have him, remember? lol
I do not like Tebow at all. Good luck to him, but I would be utterly shocked if he amounts to anything in the pros

I pretty much hate everything about tebow....florida....redneck....religious freak who rubs it in your face....ugh....theres nothing good about him. he gives a bad name to Christianity...and im not even religious anymore lol
</p>


Let it go Pizz. A couple of your posts have been down right ugly.</p>


I'm going to try hard to forget that you wrote them.</p>


</p>


why,cuz you love him and I think he's the anti-christ?</p>


</p>


I don't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other.</p>


I suppose its not cool or hip to like Tim Tebow. Thats probably the biggest reason I like him.</p>


I just think your comments are over the top. Thats all I will say at this time.</p>

I do wish Tebow success because everybody said he would be **** in the pros ever since his sophmore year in college and hes done nothing but win. The ddue is a winner and I hope he does go well...

but on the other hand, i dont think pizz's comments are that over the top. Its well known that most city slickers don't like hicks and its vice versa...

And as for the religion thing, he does kind of throw it in everybodys face. Personally I can't stand that either, nobody wants to hear about ur religious views in a football forum, just play the damn game and do your own things in private. I think its totally okay to feel that way and say that

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 09:46 AM
<font size="4" color="#ff1493">Morehead</font><font size="4"> &amp; </font><font size="4" color="#ee82ee">MMB</font>

Do you think JR tried to trade down or his heart was set on JPP?

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:46 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim


we still have to have Spikes on the list I would say and we could always pull that trade with Oakland cuz Morrison is DEF in play now

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:46 AM
Im trying to optimistic about the pick, but i just dont like it...

I don't know much about him. He seems like a freak of nature. I am kind of with you but some people like it. I would like to hear what Slip or NYCSportsfan says about him. They know college. So does K-1

If Kiper State likes then pick then LandoLincoln does to.
</P>


He was my third choice of possible picks. I would have prefered McClain and Thomas but they were gone. JPP was the best player at that point. He's a freak on nature and could very well be a real star in this league.</P>


There are no guarantees, but its a good fit on a team that has other DE's to allow him to develop.</P>


Lots of teams coveted him.</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 09:47 AM
sorry MH...youre right...</p>


bashing people we dont even know is totally out of character for sports fans. lol</p>


sorry if I offended you, even if I dont think it has anything to do with the amazing relationship I share with you hehe =]</p>


</p>


Of course.A guys position on abortion, his religion and his Mother's sexual tendancies are all very relavent to his draft status. What was I thinking?</p>


And I didn't think there was anything wrong with our relationship.</p>


</p>yea i dont know why pizz hates him so much. i saw a picture of him the other day, he was actually watching a procedure be done and wanted to help the doctors as much as he could
http://lastrow.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/tim-tebow.jpg

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:47 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
</p>


If you remember the 07 season. We used Tuck, Osi, Kiwi and Strahan on the D line in passing situations. It was an unstoppable combo. Just ask time Brady and the 19 times he had to pick his *** off the turf.</p>


Plus, Tuck has been worn out the last two years without that rotation. We have also been poor at getting to the QB since the middle of the 08 season. This was the top player available and everyone knows that Tenn. was primed to take him at 16.</p>


I still think Osi will be gone at some point in the not to distant future, but regardless, this is a very good pick.</p>

okay thats fine but we currently had Canty, Kiwi, Tuck, and Osi... Canty could play some DE too...

I dunno man, we have a glaring need at MLB and if we stick with what we got im gonna be really pissed

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 09:48 AM
sorry MH...youre right...</P>


bashing people we dont even know is totally out of character for sports fans. lol</P>


sorry if I offended you, even if I dont think it has anything to do with the amazing relationship I share with you hehe =]</P>


</P>


Of course.A guys position on abortion, his religion and his Mother's sexual tendancies are all very relavent to his draft status. What was I thinking?</P>


And I didn't think there was anything wrong with our relationship.</P>


</P>


</P>


there IS nothing wrong with us....</P>


listen...endorsements and advertising are part of sports, and athlete's livelihood....i know that....
but to make multiple COMMERCIALS about pro-life....ADVERTISING for one of the most controversial topics in this country? That's so low...and I DONT even have a stance on the debate!
Do athletes go make commercials about being racist??? ****, there's not even commercials about legalizing MJ...cmon...
WTF, Am I the ONLY PERSON who saw these damn commercials??</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:49 AM
<FONT color=#ff1493 size=4>Morehead</FONT><FONT size=4> &amp; </FONT><FONT color=#ee82ee size=4>MMB</FONT>

Do you think JR tried to trade down or his heart was set on JPP?


]</P>


I'm sure they tried to trade down but its very difficult. And Matt is right. Spikes is the best MLB prospect in this draft after McClain. His 40 time is what dropped him out of the first round.</P>


And Morrison is still an option.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:52 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>

Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:52 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
</p>


If you remember the 07 season. We used Tuck, Osi, Kiwi and Strahan on the D line in passing situations. It was an unstoppable combo. Just ask time Brady and the 19 times he had to pick his *** off the turf.</p>


Plus, Tuck has been worn out the last two years without that rotation. We have also been poor at getting to the QB since the middle of the 08 season. This was the top player available and everyone knows that Tenn. was primed to take him at 16.</p>


I still think Osi will be gone at some point in the not to distant future, but regardless, this is a very good pick.</p>


we had a pretty decent linebacker core too mh
</p>


Pierce, Torbor and Mitchell. </p>


Torbor and Mitchell were not exactly Hall of Famers.</p>


You guys have to look at Perry Fewells defenses. They are all about pass defense. And someone said we don't need pass rushing. That is completely wrong. Since the middle of 08, opposing QB's have been able to count the house on us. I would submit that after we signed Rolle, our ability to get to the QB is our largest weekness.</p>


Look at our sacks during that period. Horrible!</p>

we got ALOT out of Mitchell that year tho. He wa splaying above himself, but the quality play was there

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:53 AM
sorry MH...youre right...</P>


bashing people we dont even know is totally out of character for sports fans. lol</P>


sorry if I offended you, even if I dont think it has anything to do with the amazing relationship I share with you hehe =]</P>


</P>


Of course.A guys position on abortion, his religion and his Mother's sexual tendancies are all very relavent to his draft status. What was I thinking?</P>


And I didn't think there was anything wrong with our relationship.</P>


</P>


</P>


there IS nothing wrong with us....</P>


listen...endorsements and advertising are part of sports, and athlete's livelihood....i know that....
but to make multiple COMMERCIALS about pro-life....ADVERTISING for one of the most controversial topics in this country? That's so low...and I DONT even have a stance on the debate!
Do athletes go make commercials about being racist??? ****, there's not even commercials about legalizing MJ...cmon...
WTF, Am I the ONLY PERSON who saw these damn commercials??</P>


</P>


I don't want to get into a big political argument here. But that ad suggested nothing about Roe v Wade. And nothing about what the government should do regarding abortions. It only suggested that since we have a "choice" in this country, her choice was a good one.</P>


Anyone who puts their anger and agenda away, can see that that ad was not contrary to a "pro choice" position.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 09:53 AM
Im trying to optimistic about the pick, but i just dont like it...

I don't know much about him. He seems like a freak of nature. I am kind of with you but some people like it. I would like to hear what Slip or NYCSportsfan says about him. They know college. So does K-1

If Kiper State likes then pick then LandoLincoln does to.
</p>


He was my third choice of possible picks. I would have prefered McClain and Thomas but they were gone. JPP was the best player at that point. He's a freak on nature and could very well be a real star in this league.</p>


There are no guarantees, but its a good fit on a team that has other DE's to allow him to develop.</p>


Lots of teams coveted him.</p>
Reading things like what you and Pizz said make me feel really good about it. That is cool how he hit the bag so hard. I am going to look on YouTube for that. You never know but he has a TON of "potential". I was not aware other teams wanted him. Do you think he would have made it out of the 1st rd?

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:53 AM
<font color="#ff1493" size="4">Morehead</font><font size="4"> &amp; </font><font color="#ee82ee" size="4">MMB</font>

Do you think JR tried to trade down or his heart was set on JPP?




i dunno... ireally have no idea. I had no feel on that first round at all..

I would have to think we're either going for Morrison or Spikes now

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:55 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</P>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</P>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</P>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</P>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </P>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
</P>


As you remember, the got killed after the 07 draft too. Oh Yeah..they also killed us for not grabbing Braylon too. We then had receivers catch passes for more yards that any season in Giants history.</P>


Matt, McClain was gone at 8. What did you want them to do?</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 09:56 AM
Reading things like what you and Pizz said make me feel really good about it. That is cool how he hit the bag so hard. I am going to look on YouTube for that. You never know but he has a TON of "potential". I was not aware other teams wanted him. Do you think he would have made it out of the 1st rd?
</P>


my buddy linked a clip off the ESPN website....the show is called Sports Science, but I dont know where to find it. I hate ESPN's website lol</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 09:57 AM
Morrison is still an option.
It would be nice if that happened. Be better to get a guy with experience in my opinion.

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 09:57 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>

Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 09:58 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 09:59 AM
Im trying to optimistic about the pick, but i just dont like it...

I don't know much about him. He seems like a freak of nature. I am kind of with you but some people like it. I would like to hear what Slip or NYCSportsfan says about him. They know college. So does K-1

If Kiper State likes then pick then LandoLincoln does to.
</P>


He was my third choice of possible picks. I would have prefered McClain and Thomas but they were gone. JPP was the best player at that point. He's a freak on nature and could very well be a real star in this league.</P>


There are no guarantees, but its a good fit on a team that has other DE's to allow him to develop.</P>


Lots of teams coveted him.</P>



Reading things like what you and Pizz said make me feel really good about it. That is cool how he hit the bag so hard. I am going to look on YouTube for that. You never know but he has a TON of "potential". I was not aware other teams wanted him. Do you think he would have made it out of the 1st rd?
</P>


Most mocks had him going between 8 and 16. Kiper had him as the #1 DE in the draft. Everyone had him as either #1 or #2.</P>


He will play next year in passing downs and will be a big part of the defense. He will be able to develop since we have other good DE's. But we need pass rushing desperately. He will eventually be our Demarcus Ware. Who was a very similar type guy coming out of the draft from Troy.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:00 AM
sorry MH...youre right...</p>


bashing people we dont even know is totally out of character for sports fans. lol</p>


sorry if I offended you, even if I dont think it has anything to do with the amazing relationship I share with you hehe =]</p>


</p>


Of course.A guys position on abortion, his religion and his Mother's sexual tendancies are all very relavent to his draft status. What was I thinking?</p>


And I didn't think there was anything wrong with our relationship.</p>


</p>


</p>


there IS nothing wrong with us....</p>


listen...endorsements and advertising are part of sports, and athlete's livelihood....i know that....
but to make multiple COMMERCIALS about pro-life....ADVERTISING for one of the most controversial topics in this country? That's so low...and I DONT even have a stance on the debate!
Do athletes go make commercials about being racist??? ****, there's not even commercials about legalizing MJ...cmon...
WTF, Am I the ONLY PERSON who saw these damn commercials??</p>

i don't know if "low" is the word to use, iuts just annoying. I dont like religion being thrown in anybodys face and he does try to do it too much, thats whats annoying. I hated Florida and ignornat red necks do annoy me, but i don't think hes ignorant.... maybe when it comes to him pushing his religion on others.. but education wise hes an intelligent guy.. so i don't even hate him as a "red neck"

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:00 AM
Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

There is alot of draft left. Don't lose faith yet. This is what JR does...

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:02 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</P>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:03 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
</p>


As you remember, the got killed after the 07 draft too. Oh Yeah..they also killed us for not grabbing Braylon too. We then had receivers catch passes for more yards that any season in Giants history.</p>


Matt, McClain was gone at 8. What did you want them to do?</p>

yea but we were sold on Kiwi being the replacement for Strahan since he only had a couple of years left.

And I really dont know what I wanted us to do, im just not in love with what we did.

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:03 AM
Reading things like what you and Pizz said make me feel really good about it. That is cool how he hit the bag so hard. I am going to look on YouTube for that. You never know but he has a TON of "potential". I was not aware other teams wanted him. Do you think he would have made it out of the 1st rd?
</p>


my buddy linked a clip off the ESPN website....the show is called Sports Science, but I dont know where to find it. I hate ESPN's website lol</p>
I am very familiar with the show. They did it on the final shot from the Butler guy. I think I linked it hear. The width of the net to the left and it goes right in. ****!!! lol

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:04 AM
sorry MH...youre right...</P>


bashing people we dont even know is totally out of character for sports fans. lol</P>


sorry if I offended you, even if I dont think it has anything to do with the amazing relationship I share with you hehe =]</P>


</P>


Of course.A guys position on abortion, his religion and his Mother's sexual tendancies are all very relavent to his draft status. What was I thinking?</P>


And I didn't think there was anything wrong with our relationship.</P>


</P>


</P>


there IS nothing wrong with us....</P>


listen...endorsements and advertising are part of sports, and athlete's livelihood....i know that....
but to make multiple COMMERCIALS about pro-life....ADVERTISING for one of the most controversial topics in this country? That's so low...and I DONT even have a stance on the debate!
Do athletes go make commercials about being racist??? ****, there's not even commercials about legalizing MJ...cmon...
WTF, Am I the ONLY PERSON who saw these damn commercials??</P>




i don't know if "low" is the word to use, iuts just annoying. I dont like religion being thrown in anybodys face and he does try to do it too much, thats whats annoying. I hated Florida and ignornat red necks do annoy me, but i don't think hes ignorant.... maybe when it comes to him pushing his religion on others.. but education wise hes an intelligent guy.. so i don't even hate him as a "red neck"
</P>


I'm not crazy about the kid. He's a little too "Rah-Rah" for me. But I love a story about a kid that everyone was slamming and he ends up getting drafted at 25.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:04 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>

Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:06 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</P>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</P>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</P>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</P>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </P>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
</P>


As you remember, the got killed after the 07 draft too. Oh Yeah..they also killed us for not grabbing Braylon too. We then had receivers catch passes for more yards that any season in Giants history.</P>


Matt, McClain was gone at 8. What did you want them to do?</P>




yea but we were sold on Kiwi being the replacement for Strahan since he only had a couple of years left.

And I really dont know what I wanted us to do, im just not in love with what we did.
</P>


The draft has only just begun. We will address our needs.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:06 AM
sorry MH...youre right...</p>


bashing people we dont even know is totally out of character for sports fans. lol</p>


sorry if I offended you, even if I dont think it has anything to do with the amazing relationship I share with you hehe =]</p>


</p>


Of course.A guys position on abortion, his religion and his Mother's sexual tendancies are all very relavent to his draft status. What was I thinking?</p>


And I didn't think there was anything wrong with our relationship.</p>


</p>


</p>


there IS nothing wrong with us....</p>


listen...endorsements and advertising are part of sports, and athlete's livelihood....i know that....
but to make multiple COMMERCIALS about pro-life....ADVERTISING for one of the most controversial topics in this country? That's so low...and I DONT even have a stance on the debate!
Do athletes go make commercials about being racist??? ****, there's not even commercials about legalizing MJ...cmon...
WTF, Am I the ONLY PERSON who saw these damn commercials??</p>




i don't know if "low" is the word to use, iuts just annoying. I dont like religion being thrown in anybodys face and he does try to do it too much, thats whats annoying. I hated Florida and ignornat red necks do annoy me, but i don't think hes ignorant.... maybe when it comes to him pushing his religion on others.. but education wise hes an intelligent guy.. so i don't even hate him as a "red neck"
</p>


I'm not crazy about the kid. He's a little too "Rah-Rah" for me. But I love a story about a kid that everyone was slamming and he ends up getting drafted at 25.</p>

no that aspect of it i do like as well and thats why i will be cheering for him...

Gotta give McDaniels some credit, dude has huge huevos. He really does it his way, i wish the Brons success

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:08 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
</p>


As you remember, the got killed after the 07 draft too. Oh Yeah..they also killed us for not grabbing Braylon too. We then had receivers catch passes for more yards that any season in Giants history.</p>


Matt, McClain was gone at 8. What did you want them to do?</p>




yea but we were sold on Kiwi being the replacement for Strahan since he only had a couple of years left.

And I really dont know what I wanted us to do, im just not in love with what we did.
</p>


The draft has only just begun. We will address our needs.</p>

Honestly the only needs i see us having are MLB, SLB (but we could handle that internally), and OL depth

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:08 AM
<h2><a href="http://www.espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5118154">Sport
Science: Jason Pierre-Paul </a></h2>
6'5" 270 - 81" wingspan

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 10:10 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</P>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</P>


</P>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:11 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</P>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</P>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</P>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</P>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </P>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...
</P>


The one or two pieces have been play makers. And I mean play makers anywhere on the defense. Thats why I loved Thomas. He's a ball hawk. He's a faster version of Ed Reed. We had a play maker in KP. Obviously we don't know his future here. </P>


But JPP is a play maker. He's potentially a guy that defenses have to account for. I think Reese was thinking the same thing once McClain was gone. Let get the best play maker on defense. Thats what he did. Thats why I think he would have taken Earl Thomas.</P>


Great defenses have 1 or 2 playmakers. Palamula, Ed Reed, Demarcus Ware, etc... </P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:12 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>


i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th. Whats the OTs looking like this round?

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 10:12 AM
Denver really should have gotten a REAL QB. Can you imagine if Claussen went to KC or Oakland?? and was awesome?! and haunted them forever!! lol....those are the stories I like to see unfold haha

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:13 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</P>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</P>


</P>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</P>


</P>


They made a huge mistake not drafting Earl Thomas after they traded up. Believe me, their drafting the kid from Michigan was good news for us.</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 10:14 AM
I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

</P>


kinda what I meant....we'll be changing soon</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:14 AM
Im trying to optimistic about the pick, but i just dont like it...

I don't know much about him. He seems like a freak of nature. I am kind of with you but some people like it. I would like to hear what Slip or NYCSportsfan says about him. They know college. So does K-1

If Kiper State likes then pick then LandoLincoln does to.
</p>


He was my third choice of possible picks. I would have prefered McClain and Thomas but they were gone. JPP was the best player at that point. He's a freak on nature and could very well be a real star in this league.</p>


There are no guarantees, but its a good fit on a team that has other DE's to allow him to develop.</p>


Lots of teams coveted him.</p>



Reading things like what you and Pizz said make me feel really good about it. That is cool how he hit the bag so hard. I am going to look on YouTube for that. You never know but he has a TON of "potential". I was not aware other teams wanted him. Do you think he would have made it out of the 1st rd?
</p>


Most mocks had him going between 8 and 16. Kiper had him as the #1 DE in the draft. Everyone had him as either #1 or #2.</p>


He will play next year in passing downs and will be a big part of the defense. He will be able to develop since we have other good DE's. But we need pass rushing desperately. He will eventually be our <font color="#0000ff">Demarcus Ware</font>. Who was a very similar type guy coming out of the draft from Troy.</p>
That is quite a name to be throwin around. Let us pray he becomes close to that one day. I also recall another great DE from Troy, what happened to him?

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:14 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...
</p>


The one or two pieces have been play makers. And I mean play makers anywhere on the defense. Thats why I loved Thomas. He's a ball hawk. He's a faster version of Ed Reed. We had a play maker in KP. Obviously we don't know his future here. </p>


But JPP is a play maker. He's potentially a guy that defenses have to account for. I think Reese was thinking the same thing once McClain was gone. Let get the best play maker on defense. Thats what he did. Thats why I think he would have taken Earl Thomas.</p>


Great defenses have 1 or 2 playmakers. Palamula, Ed Reed, Demarcus Ware, etc... </p>

then i think we shoulda did what we had to do to move and get McClain if thats true

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 10:15 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>

Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...
what are you talking about?we were superbowl bound 2 years ago if plax didnt shoot himself. we solidified safety and just need a mlb. your saying you wanted bray. if that happened we would of never got to see nicks or manningham shine. if your one piece away from having a good D how can you be heading in the wrong direction.

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:16 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</P>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</P>


</P>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</P>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th. Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</P>


Still a few good ones left. I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year. If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness. As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware. Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:18 AM
<font color="#0000ff">“We think the guy has the biggest upside of any player in the draft,”</font>
Reese said. “That’s how we feel about this guy. We think the sky’s the
limit.”

<font size="4" color="#0000ff">“We’re not trading Osi</font>, so you don’t even have to ask that
question,” Reese said

“Let’s play,” Coughlin said. “Everybody is going
to have a chance to contribute. We didn’t rush the passer well last
year. Let’s go back to doing the things we did well a couple of years
ago. It’s let’s stop talking and go play.”

The lack of experience,
Reese said, is something “you take into consideration,” but the
potential was too much for the Giants to ignore.</p>

“He has things
you can’t teach,” Reese said. “He’s a rare, gifted, talented kid. He is
uncommon, that’s a good word to use. He’s long, he’s fast, he’s
athletic, he’s tough, he’s got a great motor.”</p>

Things could have
fallen more advantageously for the Giants. McClain, the object of their
affection, did not fall to them and they never even got a chance to
trade up a few spots to get him. There was also great interest by the
Giants in running back C.J. Spiller, but that dream died when the Bills
took him at No. 9.</p>

The Giants had their pick of some highly-rated
players: offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga, defensive tackle Dan Williams,
guard Mike Iupati and defensive end Derrick Morgan, but they went with
Pierre-Paul.</p>

“This was an easy pick for us,” Reese said.</p>

Pierre-Paul
wasn’t sure who would pick him.</p>

“I’m just glad I got picked,” he
said. “Now I get to come in, settle down and become a great football
player.”</p>

With the Raiders making the surprise pick of McClain,
their veteran middle linebacker, <font color="#0000ff">Kirk Morrison, becomes expendable.</font>
Morrison recently signed his restricted free agent tender, and if the
Giants are interested they certainly could make a deal and probably give
up no higher than a fifth or sixth-round pick.</p>

Morrison is only
28 years old and had been a sturdy, solid but not spectacular starter
the past six years in Oakland.</p>In the NFL:
<font color="#0000ff">Considered to be the best pure-pass rusher in the draft.</font> There's no
starting job up for grabs, but he will be used immediately in certain
packages and asked to go get after the quarterback. <div id="TixyyLink" style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
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</div>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:18 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</P>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</P>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</P>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</P>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </P>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...
what are you talking about?we were superbowl bound 2 years ago if plax didnt shoot himself. we solidified safety and just need a mlb. your saying you wanted bray. if that happened we would of never got to see nicks or manningham shine. if your one piece away from having a good D how can you be heading in the wrong direction.
</P>


Plax had nothing to do with it. We let McNabb count the house in the playoff game. Our inability to rush the QB was our downfall in 08. Check our sack #'s that year. We dropped off in the 2nd half considereably. We had more than 1 sack in only one game in the 2nd half of the season and that was the Arizona game.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:20 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>


</p>


They made a huge mistake not drafting Earl Thomas after they traded up. Believe me, their drafting the kid from Michigan was good news for us.</p>
I think they will get Taylor Mays, you like him?

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 10:22 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...
what are you talking about?we were superbowl bound 2 years ago if plax didnt shoot himself. we solidified safety and just need a mlb. your saying you wanted bray. if that happened we would of never got to see nicks or manningham shine. if your one piece away from having a good D how can you be heading in the wrong direction.
</p>


Plax had nothing to do with it. We let McNabb count the house in the playoff game. Our inability to rush the QB was our downfall in 08. Check our sack #'s that year. We dropped off in the 2nd half considereably. We had more than 1 sack in only one game in the 2nd half of the season and that was the Arizona game.</p> look at the wr stats. the drops....think there was 6 or 7. they were putrid. bull**** playcalling by gillbride......our D still hung in there and kept us in the game mh.

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:24 AM
I like popsicles

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:26 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</P>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</P>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</P>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</P>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </P>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...
what are you talking about?we were superbowl bound 2 years ago if plax didnt shoot himself. we solidified safety and just need a mlb. your saying you wanted bray. if that happened we would of never got to see nicks or manningham shine. if your one piece away from having a good D how can you be heading in the wrong direction.
</P>


Plax had nothing to do with it. We let McNabb count the house in the playoff game. Our inability to rush the QB was our downfall in 08. Check our sack #'s that year. We dropped off in the 2nd half considereably. We had more than 1 sack in only one game in the 2nd half of the season and that was the Arizona game.</P>


look at the wr stats. the drops....think there was 6 or 7. they were putrid. bull**** playcalling by gillbride......our D still hung in there and kept us in the game mh.
</P>


How open was Steve Smith in the first quarter of that game for a TD. Would Plax have helped Eli throw a better pass?</P>


We had receivers open all day in that playoff game. Our problems were on defense.</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 10:29 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>




Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...
what are you talking about?we were superbowl bound 2 years ago if plax didnt shoot himself. we solidified safety and just need a mlb. your saying you wanted bray. if that happened we would of never got to see nicks or manningham shine. if your one piece away from having a good D how can you be heading in the wrong direction.
</p>


Plax had nothing to do with it. We let McNabb count the house in the playoff game. Our inability to rush the QB was our downfall in 08. Check our sack #'s that year. We dropped off in the 2nd half considereably. We had more than 1 sack in only one game in the 2nd half of the season and that was the Arizona game.</p>


look at the wr stats. the drops....think there was 6 or 7. they were putrid. bull**** playcalling by gillbride......our D still hung in there and kept us in the game mh.
</p>


How open was Steve Smith in the first quarter of that game for a TD. Would Plax have helped Eli throw a better pass?</p>


We had receivers open all day in that playoff game. Our problems were on defense.</p>no he would of dove and caught it with his lanky *** arms.


that was right in front of me. i wanted to killlllllllllllllll

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:31 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg1"><td colspan="2">No. 15: Giants (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYG)
select: <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692882" target="_new">Jason
Pierre-Paul</a>, DE<span class="school">, South Florida</span></td><td>Grade</td>
</tr>
<tr class="bg2">
<td valign="top">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nfl/gamecenter/icons/NYG.gif (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYG)</td><td>Analysis:
This is the best pick of the first round. The Giants picked a star pass
rusher. He will be a force. What a great pick. I love this pick more
than any other. He will be a 12-15 sack player in a year. </td><td><center><font size="+2">A+</font></center></td></tr></tbody></table>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:32 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13264107?tag=coverlist;coverlist_footer

That is just one mans opinion, but I like what he has to say [:)]

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:34 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:36 AM
The boards were interesting last night lol

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:38 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg2"><td valign="top">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nfl/gamecenter/icons/PHI.gif (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/PHI)</td><td>Analysis:
Love this pick. Love the aggression to go get him. He is a big-time
pass rusher. He will be an immediate impact player in their defense. I
like this pick as much as any. </td><td><center><font size="+2">A</font></center></td></tr></tbody></table>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:41 AM
<h1 class="storyhdl"><font size="3"><a href="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/13264220/out-of-nowhere-just-watch-pierrepaul-bound-for-stardom?tag=pageRow;pageContainer">Out of nowhere: Just watch, Pierre-Paul bound for
stardom</a></font></h1>


<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica"> "He has a chance to be
like Jevon Kearse," said one NFC personnel director. "I'm talking
about the early Kearse at Tennessee. The explosive Kearse." </font></p><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica"> </font>

<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica"> Some other personnel men have mentioned
DeMarcus Ware of the Dallas Cowboys. Another even did the
unthinkable and mentioned Lawrence Taylor. </font></p><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica">f this kid isn't a double-digit
sack player in two years, I will be shocked. If he isn't a
perennial Pro Bowl player for the next 10 years, it will be a big
surprise. </font>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 10:42 AM
I like popsicles
</P>


lol</P>


thx for that article post. some reassuring stuff there. I guess if we're not trading Osi, it's good to have the depth we do. As we all agreed, that D-line rotation was so key for our 07 success. I hope our DTs are effect this year with helping stop the run, cuz I'm not confident with LBs doing it...</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:43 AM
i think reese's overly stacking of the line is becoming an issue.

Why does it seem like we've just given up on trying to get some REAL players at LB..... its crazy
i agree matt, im getting a bit worried about the lb situation. . the drafts not over but weve tried to get a linebacker from the draft for a few years now with very little results. the only one who looks solid is sintim
</p>


We made a good pick last year with Sintim and we also signed Boley at WILL last year. Our problems are in the middle. Its not our fault that McClain went so early. Spoon (as much as I like him) would have been a high draft for a guy to play out of position. He's an outside LB and would have a learning curve for MLB.</p>


Spikes and Lee will probably be available to us with our next pick. I have a feeling it will be Spikes.</p>


We also have Morrison as a possibility out there now that Oakland drafted McClain.</p>


Remember, Perry Fewell runs a defense focused on stopping the pass. We have Romo, McNabb and a pass happy Philly team in our division. </p>

Sintim is a Sam and i dont mind letting our young mediocre LBs compete for the same spot.. but i dont want to add the mike to that mix too. I want someone to come in here.

Giants are getting killed on sirius radio. Says we're a team going in the wrong direction... can't say its totally off. They are saying u can't recapture what 2007... that comment makes sense to me.

Like we didn't grab Braylon last year to replicate what we had on offense with plax and ****, but we're gonna try and mimic our DLine? As time goes on, im thinking its a worse move
going in the wrong direction? i dont think so. were 1 or 2 pieces away from having a pretty serious defense. and **** bray bray. we have wrs that can actually catch.


as usual ur missing the point of what i say

We've been 1 or 2 pieces away for two years now...
what are you talking about?we were superbowl bound 2 years ago if plax didnt shoot himself. we solidified safety and just need a mlb. your saying you wanted bray. if that happened we would of never got to see nicks or manningham shine. if your one piece away from having a good D how can you be heading in the wrong direction.


no im not saying the fact I wanted bray specifcally, thats how i know ur missing the point. My point was if we got him we could of maintained the same type of offense we had with Plax. Whether he catches the balls or not, the attention he got would of been that of Plax. We decided to gave a new game plan on offense but it seems like we're not looking to do that on defense. Thats what im saying by we decided to not get Braylon.

Because its the same position we've needed for two years, we just need it even more now because we lost Pierce and we still haven't addressed it. I guess we really can't say anything until we see what happens tonite, but its annoying

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:44 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th. Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</p>


Still a few good ones left. I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year. If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness. As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware. Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</p>

yea but I think the Diehl at Tackle thing has run its coarse and he has to move back to guard and McKenzie is getting older and seems to be rbeaking down. Even with Beatty we still are going to need another tackle

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:45 AM
<font color="#0000ff">“We think the guy has the biggest upside of any player in the draft,”</font>
Reese said. “That’s how we feel about this guy. We think the sky’s the
limit.”

<font color="#0000ff" size="4">“We’re not trading Osi</font>, so you don’t even have to ask that
question,” Reese said

“Let’s play,” Coughlin said. “Everybody is going
to have a chance to contribute. We didn’t rush the passer well last
year. Let’s go back to doing the things we did well a couple of years
ago. It’s let’s stop talking and go play.”

The lack of experience,
Reese said, is something “you take into consideration,” but the
potential was too much for the Giants to ignore.</p>

“He has things
you can’t teach,” Reese said. “He’s a rare, gifted, talented kid. He is
uncommon, that’s a good word to use. He’s long, he’s fast, he’s
athletic, he’s tough, he’s got a great motor.”</p>

Things could have
fallen more advantageously for the Giants. McClain, the object of their
affection, did not fall to them and they never even got a chance to
trade up a few spots to get him. There was also great interest by the
Giants in running back C.J. Spiller, but that dream died when the Bills
took him at No. 9.</p>

The Giants had their pick of some highly-rated
players: offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga, defensive tackle Dan Williams,
guard Mike Iupati and defensive end Derrick Morgan, but they went with
Pierre-Paul.</p>

“This was an easy pick for us,” Reese said.</p>

Pierre-Paul
wasn’t sure who would pick him.</p>

“I’m just glad I got picked,” he
said. “Now I get to come in, settle down and become a great football
player.”</p>

With the Raiders making the surprise pick of McClain,
their veteran middle linebacker, <font color="#0000ff">Kirk Morrison, becomes expendable.</font>
Morrison recently signed his restricted free agent tender, and if the
Giants are interested they certainly could make a deal and probably give
up no higher than a fifth or sixth-round pick.</p>

Morrison is only
28 years old and had been a sturdy, solid but not spectacular starter
the past six years in Oakland.</p>In the NFL:
<font color="#0000ff">Considered to be the best pure-pass rusher in the draft.</font> There's no
starting job up for grabs, but he will be used immediately in certain
packages and asked to go get after the quarterback. <div id="TixyyLink" style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;">
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/untested_jpp_adds_to_giants_pass_okE2wNGrnsUOQFHOJ AcKMM?sms_ss=facebook#ixzz0lvtxQsew
</div>

he has to say that, but take it with a grain of salt. Said the same thing about Shockey

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:45 AM
<h1 class="storyhdl"><font size="3"><a href="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/13264220/out-of-nowhere-just-watch-pierrepaul-bound-for-stardom?tag=pageRow;pageContainer">Out of nowhere: Just watch, Pierre-Paul bound for
stardom</a></font></h1>


<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica"> " Another even did the
unthinkable and mentioned Lawrence Taylor. </font></p>



grrrrrrr

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:45 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>


</p>


They made a huge mistake not drafting Earl Thomas after they traded up. Believe me, their drafting the kid from Michigan was good news for us.</p>
I think they will get Taylor Mays, you like him?


i think its a great value pick and for a need they have

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:46 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg1"><td colspan="2">No. 15: Giants (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYG)
select: <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692882" target="_new">Jason
Pierre-Paul</a>, DE<span class="school">, South Florida</span></td><td>Grade</td>
</tr>
<tr class="bg2">
<td valign="top">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nfl/gamecenter/icons/NYG.gif (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYG)</td><td>Analysis:
This is the best pick of the first round. The Giants picked a star pass
rusher. He will be a force. What a great pick. I love this pick more
than any other. He will be a 12-15 sack player in a year. </td><td><center><font size="+2">A+</font></center></td></tr></tbody></table>

where did u get that from

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:47 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:47 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan.* Not because I thought we would get*Thomas, because I knew Seattle would take him.* But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th.** Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</p>


Still a few good ones left.* I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year.* If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness.* As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware.* Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</p>

yea but I think the Diehl at Tackle thing has run its coarse and he has to move back to guard and McKenzie is getting older and seems to be rbeaking down.* Even with Beatty we still are going to need another tackle


I think McKenzie has one more good year. If I am mistaken I think his contract is up next season. I can see the Giants drafting a tackle or Guard in the later rounds.

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 10:47 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible.
<CENTER><FONT size=+2>F</FONT></CENTER>


</P>


lolllll EVERY sports site I was on last night, ALL graded it F also.
F is for FAIL cuz that's what this team will do! uhh at least they have some RBs? And a WR? lol.
Maybe they should move tebow to TE and focus on a short passing game to compliment the run. lmao</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:47 AM
<h1 class="storyhdl"><font size="3"><a href="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/13264220/out-of-nowhere-just-watch-pierrepaul-bound-for-stardom?tag=pageRow;pageContainer">Out of nowhere: Just watch, Pierre-Paul bound for
stardom</a></font></h1>


<font face="Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> "He has a chance to be
like Jevon Kearse," said one NFC personnel director. "I'm talking
about the early Kearse at Tennessee. The explosive Kearse." </font></p><font face="Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> </font>

<font face="Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Some other personnel men have mentioned
DeMarcus Ware of the Dallas Cowboys. Another even did the
unthinkable and mentioned Lawrence Taylor. </font></p><font face="Arial, Helvetica" size="2">f this kid isn't a double-digit
sack player in two years, I will be shocked. If he isn't a
perennial Pro Bowl player for the next 10 years, it will be a big
surprise. </font>



whoa whoa whoa, simmer down now

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:47 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:48 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th. Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</p>


Still a few good ones left. I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year. If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness. As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware. Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</p>

yea but I think the Diehl at Tackle thing has run its coarse and he has to move back to guard and McKenzie is getting older and seems to be rbeaking down. Even with Beatty we still are going to need another tackle


I think McKenzie has one more good year. If I am mistaken I think his contract is up next season. I can see the Giants drafting a tackle or Guard in the later rounds.

hes good when hes out there... but hes becoming more and more broken down every year

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 10:49 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible.
<CENTER><FONT size=+2>F</FONT></CENTER>




i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck
</P>


your prediction only works if he was drafted in the last round hehe</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:50 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:51 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible.
<center><font size="+2">F</font></center>




i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck
</p>


your prediction only works if he was drafted in the last round hehe</p>

i dunno dude, might as well of been last round... took him with the first round pick where this guy was a 4th round projected pick a month ago

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:51 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan.* Not because I thought we would get*Thomas, because I knew Seattle would take him.* But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th.** Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</p>


Still a few good ones left.* I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year.* If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness.* As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware.* Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</p>

yea but I think the Diehl at Tackle thing has run its coarse and he has to move back to guard and McKenzie is getting older and seems to be rbeaking down.* Even with Beatty we still are going to need another tackle


I think McKenzie has one more good year. If I am mistaken I think his contract is up next season. I can see the Giants drafting a tackle or Guard in the later rounds.

hes good when hes out there... but hes becoming more and more broken down every year


injuries are piling up on the big man.

But to his defense since he was picked up from the jets he has missed only 7 games

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:54 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 10:55 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</P>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</P>


</P>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</P>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th. Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</P>


Still a few good ones left. I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year. If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness. As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware. Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</P>




yea but I think the Diehl at Tackle thing has run its coarse and he has to move back to guard and McKenzie is getting older and seems to be rbeaking down. Even with Beatty we still are going to need another tackle
I think McKenzie has one more good year. If I am mistaken I think his contract is up next season. I can see the Giants drafting a tackle or Guard in the later rounds.

hes good when hes out there... but hes becoming more and more broken down every year
injuries are piling up on the big man. But to his defense since he was picked up from the jets he has missed only 7 games</P>


Maybe Deihl will go back to RT. Who knows. I think they want Beatty to go to LT to used his speed and feet to block the likes of Trent Cole and Demarcus Ware. Thats key for us.</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 10:55 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible.
<CENTER><FONT size=+2>F</FONT></CENTER>




i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck
</P>


your prediction only works if he was drafted in the last round hehe</P>




i dunno dude, might as well of been last round... took him with the first round pick where this guy was a 4th round projected pick a month ago
</P>


well then it would technically be the exact opposite. if you draft a guy in the first round, you EXPECT 1st round results from him. So based on what youre saying...him being good already makes sense, and there's no risk there....
Idk, I see your point...but not based on the draft position....</P>


if Denver took him in the 5th, nobody would think much of it, other than...hey maybe he'll play QB. lol</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:57 AM
<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica">Another even did the
unthinkable and mentioned Lawrence Taylor. </font>



grrrrrrr
I thought the same thing. lol

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:57 AM
Said the same thing about Shockey

Yes he did my friend, many times...

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 10:58 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg1"><td colspan="2">No. 15: Giants (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYG)
select: <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692882" target="_new">Jason
Pierre-Paul</a>, DE<span class="school">, South Florida</span></td><td>Grade</td>
</tr>
<tr class="bg2">
<td valign="top">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nfl/gamecenter/icons/NYG.gif (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYG)</td><td>Analysis:
This is the best pick of the first round. The Giants picked a star pass
rusher. He will be a force. What a great pick. I love this pick more
than any other. He will be a 12-15 sack player in a year. </td><td><center><font size="+2">A+</font></center></td></tr></tbody></table>

where did u get that from

Posted the article next post

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 10:59 AM
injuries are piling up on the big man. But to his defense since he was picked up from the jets he has missed only 7 games</P>


McKenzie was a GREAT value when we signed him, and you really cant ask for more considering his overall performance, IMO.
See, thats what the Gmen need to start doing again....getting those sleeper FAs coming off their rook contracts. We dont really splash that way anymore it seems. I was kinda surprised by the Rolle hype at first...I mean Im glad we did it....but i was expecting us to dabble in the Dansby talks more than Rolle. </P>

DavenIII
04-23-2010, 11:04 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:05 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th. Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</p>


Still a few good ones left. I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year. If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness. As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware. Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</p>

yea but I think the Diehl at Tackle thing has run its coarse and he has to move back to guard and McKenzie is getting older and seems to be rbeaking down. Even with Beatty we still are going to need another tackle


I think McKenzie has one more good year. If I am mistaken I think his contract is up next season. I can see the Giants drafting a tackle or Guard in the later rounds.

hes good when hes out there... but hes becoming more and more broken down every year


injuries are piling up on the big man.

But to his defense since he was picked up from the jets he has missed only 7 games

yea but unless ur name is Cal Ripken or Brett Favre i dont buy into that whole "Doesn't get injured thing". As you get older your body jus tbreaks down, especially in football. I mean that was a good reason to sign him but as we're nearing the end with him and hes starting to miss time, you have to read the writing on the wall

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:07 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system. Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:08 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible.
<center><font size="+2">F</font></center>




i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck
</p>


your prediction only works if he was drafted in the last round hehe</p>




i dunno dude, might as well of been last round... took him with the first round pick where this guy was a 4th round projected pick a month ago
</p>


well then it would technically be the exact opposite. if you draft a guy in the first round, you EXPECT 1st round results from him. So based on what youre saying...him being good already makes sense, and there's no risk there....
Idk, I see your point...but not based on the draft position....</p>


if Denver took him in the 5th, nobody would think much of it, other than...hey maybe he'll play QB. lol</p>

they saw him, they attacked and they are scrutinized for it . If it works out McDaniels stock goes thru the roof

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:09 AM
injuries are piling up on the big man. But to his defense since he was picked up from the jets he has missed only 7 games</p>


McKenzie was a GREAT value when we signed him, and you really cant ask for more considering his overall performance, IMO.
See, thats what the Gmen need to start doing again....getting those sleeper FAs coming off their rook contracts. We dont really splash that way anymore it seems. I was kinda surprised by the Rolle hype at first...I mean Im glad we did it....but i was expecting us to dabble in the Dansby talks more than Rolle. </p>

well i think thats what we tried to do last year with Canty and Boley

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:10 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:11 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system.* Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:13 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system. Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

Superbowl or Bust with the 29th overall pick??

I dunno about that

did u think Marino was a bust? Not saying Tebow is gonna do whta Dan did with not winning a superbowl, but ya know

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:13 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan.* Not because I thought we would get*Thomas, because I knew Seattle would take him.* But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th.** Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</p>


Still a few good ones left.* I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year.* If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness.* As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware.* Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</p>

yea but I think the Diehl at Tackle thing has run its coarse and he has to move back to guard and McKenzie is getting older and seems to be rbeaking down.* Even with Beatty we still are going to need another tackle


I think McKenzie has one more good year. If I am mistaken I think his contract is up next season. I can see the Giants drafting a tackle or Guard in the later rounds.

hes good when hes out there... but hes becoming more and more broken down every year


injuries are piling up on the big man.

But to his defense since he was picked up from the jets he has missed only 7 games

yea but unless ur name is Cal Ripken or Brett Favre i dont buy into that whole "Doesn't get injured thing". As you get older your body jus tbreaks down, especially in football.* I mean that was a good reason to sign him but as we're nearing the end with him and hes starting to miss time, you have to read the writing on the wall


I was just making a point that McKenzie does not miss much snaps. He still has good run blocking, the one weakness with him is he gets beat by speed rushers.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:14 AM
I still can't believe the Eagles didn't take Thomas...
</p>


I cheered when they drafted the kid from Michigan. Not because I thought we would getThomas, because I knew Seattle would take him. But because he won't be in our division, haunting us 2 times a year, for the next 10 years.</p>


</p>


yea well.....philly improving their d-line isnt anything im happy about either lol.
Especially with this transitional O-line period we're moving into...</p>





i dunno if were transitional..


I wouldn't mind another OT this round to be honest... move Diehl to Guard, Beatty to Tackle and get another tackle to eventually replace McKenzie and back up the tackles this year....

Then trade fo rMorrison with our 5th. Whats the OTs looking like this round?
</p>


Still a few good ones left. I think we go more interior line since we drafted Beatty last year. If he moves to LT and we move Deihl back to LG, our line will be back to greatness. As much as I love Diehl, he couldn't block speed rushers like Cole and Ware. Beatty has the speed and feet to be more effective against those guys.</p>

yea but I think the Diehl at Tackle thing has run its coarse and he has to move back to guard and McKenzie is getting older and seems to be rbeaking down. Even with Beatty we still are going to need another tackle


I think McKenzie has one more good year. If I am mistaken I think his contract is up next season. I can see the Giants drafting a tackle or Guard in the later rounds.

hes good when hes out there... but hes becoming more and more broken down every year


injuries are piling up on the big man.

But to his defense since he was picked up from the jets he has missed only 7 games

yea but unless ur name is Cal Ripken or Brett Favre i dont buy into that whole "Doesn't get injured thing". As you get older your body jus tbreaks down, especially in football. I mean that was a good reason to sign him but as we're nearing the end with him and hes starting to miss time, you have to read the writing on the wall


I was just making a point that McKenzie does not miss much snaps. He still has good run blocking, the one weakness with him is he gets beat by speed rushers.


i hear ya but I think its only gonna get worse from here on out with MCK

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:15 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system.* Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

Superbowl or Bust with the 29th overall pick??

I dunno about that

did u think Marino was a bust? Not saying Tebow is gonna do whta Dan did with not winning a superbowl, but ya know


Let me change that then. He does not have to win a superbowl but I think he will have to do some sort of significant contribution to the Broncos. Marino is no bust at all. The NFL is a team sport you do not win it all or lose it all on one player.

Do you think Tebow will be a good player?

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 11:15 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that
</P>


interesting.....</P>


and also kinda sad =((</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:17 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system. Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

Superbowl or Bust with the 29th overall pick??

I dunno about that

did u think Marino was a bust? Not saying Tebow is gonna do whta Dan did with not winning a superbowl, but ya know


Let me change that then. He does not have to win a superbowl but I think he will have to do some sort of significant contribution to the Broncos. Marino is no bust at all. The NFL is a team sport you do not win it all or lose it all on one player.

Do you think Tebow will be a good player?

i actually do. He has the smarts, size, speed, and accuracy I think. His release is his only knock and that can be handled, especially wiht a QB guy like McDaniels.

And yes I mean Tebow turns out to be a good player u have to tip ur hat is what im saying...

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:18 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that
</p>


interesting.....</p>


and also kinda sad =((</p>

i think thats why I'm so not happy with this pick becuase i do believe that. When you have a guy like Strahan, then u stack the talent around him on the line ur going to win games. We have alot of talent on the line, but no strahan. Thats why I would of loved Peppers to be honest.

I just dont know what to think

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:18 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system.* Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

Superbowl or Bust with the 29th overall pick??

I dunno about that

did u think Marino was a bust? Not saying Tebow is gonna do whta Dan did with not winning a superbowl, but ya know


Let me change that then. He does not have to win a superbowl but I think he will have to do some sort of significant contribution to the Broncos. Marino is no bust at all. The NFL is a team sport you do not win it all or lose it all on one player.

Do you think Tebow will be a good player?

i actually do.* He has the smarts, size, speed, and accuracy I think.* His release is his only knock and that can be handled, especially wiht a QB guy like McDaniels.

And yes I mean Tebow turns out to be a good player u have to tip ur hat is what im saying...


If he turns out to be a good player I will tip my hat. My opinion is he will be a bust. But time will tell

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:19 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system. Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

Superbowl or Bust with the 29th overall pick??

I dunno about that

did u think Marino was a bust? Not saying Tebow is gonna do whta Dan did with not winning a superbowl, but ya know


Let me change that then. He does not have to win a superbowl but I think he will have to do some sort of significant contribution to the Broncos. Marino is no bust at all. The NFL is a team sport you do not win it all or lose it all on one player.

Do you think Tebow will be a good player?

i actually do. He has the smarts, size, speed, and accuracy I think. His release is his only knock and that can be handled, especially wiht a QB guy like McDaniels.

And yes I mean Tebow turns out to be a good player u have to tip ur hat is what im saying...


If he turns out to be a good player I will tip my hat. My opinion is he will be a bust. But time will tell

very well could be...

i think we could agree on one thing tho: mcDaniels def has big balls

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:20 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system. Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

Superbowl or Bust with the 29th overall pick??

I dunno about that

did u think Marino was a bust? Not saying Tebow is gonna do whta Dan did with not winning a superbowl, but ya know


Let me change that then. He does not have to win a superbowl but I think he will have to do some sort of significant contribution to the Broncos. Marino is no bust at all. The NFL is a team sport you do not win it all or lose it all on one player.

Do you think Tebow will be a good player?

i actually do. He has the smarts, size, speed, and accuracy I think. His release is his only knock and that can be handled, especially wiht a QB guy like McDaniels.

And yes I mean Tebow turns out to be a good player u have to tip ur hat is what im saying...


If he turns out to be a good player I will tip my hat. My opinion is he will be a bust. But time will tell

very well could be...

i think we could agree on one thing tho: mcDaniels def has big balls

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 11:21 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that
</P>


interesting.....</P>


and also kinda sad =((</P>




i think thats why I'm so not happy with this pick becuase i do believe that. When you have a guy like Strahan, then u stack the talent around him on the line ur going to win games. We have alot of talent on the line, but no strahan. Thats why I would of loved Peppers to be honest.

I just dont know what to think
</P>


It kinda explains why we dont see MUCH production from either end too...everyone last year said Tuck got double teamed....well, sure...but then where were teh rest of the DEs when Strahan was double teamed, or vice versa....team exploited Osi's apparent unstable knee, and he did what he could....but the rest of the line was virtually invisible also.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:22 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that
</p>


interesting.....</p>


and also kinda sad =((</p>




i think thats why I'm so not happy with this pick becuase i do believe that. When you have a guy like Strahan, then u stack the talent around him on the line ur going to win games. We have alot of talent on the line, but no strahan. Thats why I would of loved Peppers to be honest.

I just dont know what to think
</p>


It kinda explains why we dont see MUCH production from either end too...everyone last year said Tuck got double teamed....well, sure...but then where were teh rest of the DEs when Strahan was double teamed, or vice versa....team exploited Osi's apparent unstable knee, and he did what he could....but the rest of the line was virtually invisible also.</p>

i hope i'm not right on it...

but Osi wasn't 100% (still not an excuse fo rbeing invisible vs the run) and either was Tuck... he was banged up all season being a warrior

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:23 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system.* Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

Superbowl or Bust with the 29th overall pick??

I dunno about that

did u think Marino was a bust? Not saying Tebow is gonna do whta Dan did with not winning a superbowl, but ya know


Let me change that then. He does not have to win a superbowl but I think he will have to do some sort of significant contribution to the Broncos. Marino is no bust at all. The NFL is a team sport you do not win it all or lose it all on one player.

Do you think Tebow will be a good player?

i actually do.* He has the smarts, size, speed, and accuracy I think.* His release is his only knock and that can be handled, especially wiht a QB guy like McDaniels.

And yes I mean Tebow turns out to be a good player u have to tip ur hat is what im saying...


If he turns out to be a good player I will tip my hat. My opinion is he will be a bust. But time will tell

very well could be...

i think we could agree on one thing tho: mcDaniels def has big balls


McDaniels goes against the grain.

If things turn out great he will be looked as a genius, but if they don’t he will be looked as an idiot.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:24 AM
Analysis: By far and away the worst pick in this
draft. Wow. How can you justify trading away Cutler and picking this
kid. He's a fifth-round pick -- at best. Now we know why Josh McDaniels
will last one more year in Denver. Horrible. Just horrible. <center><font size="+2">F</font></center>

i dunno, if it works out we may be talking about the new Belicheck


can you really say that without a smirk?

McDaniels is a QB guy... if Tebow works out you can't say its Belicheck like. The guy took out the franchize QB and made the team more competitive than the year before. HE just dumped a star studded WR and reached on a QQB that everyone has been saying can't do it. If Tebow works out, how can u not say this guys isn't awesome?


When you say he made them more competitive. They still finsihed 8-8 the same record they had with Shanahan

He did the same with an average QB who just joined the system. Not to mention the defense played tons better...

I mean if he reaches on Tebow like that and Tebow becomes the truth, how could u not call this guy brilliant


If he wins a superbowl with Tebow then I will say McDaniels did a damn good job with that pick. Other wise I think they took a BIG gamble with tebow.

Superbowl or Bust with the 29th overall pick??

I dunno about that

did u think Marino was a bust? Not saying Tebow is gonna do whta Dan did with not winning a superbowl, but ya know


Let me change that then. He does not have to win a superbowl but I think he will have to do some sort of significant contribution to the Broncos. Marino is no bust at all. The NFL is a team sport you do not win it all or lose it all on one player.

Do you think Tebow will be a good player?

i actually do. He has the smarts, size, speed, and accuracy I think. His release is his only knock and that can be handled, especially wiht a QB guy like McDaniels.

And yes I mean Tebow turns out to be a good player u have to tip ur hat is what im saying...


If he turns out to be a good player I will tip my hat. My opinion is he will be a bust. But time will tell

very well could be...

i think we could agree on one thing tho: mcDaniels def has big balls


McDaniels goes against the grain.

If things turn out great he will be looked as a genius, but if they don’t he will be looked as an idiot.

yea hes def in a hit or miss situation

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 11:26 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that
</P>


interesting.....</P>


and also kinda sad =((</P>




i think thats why I'm so not happy with this pick becuase i do believe that. When you have a guy like Strahan, then u stack the talent around him on the line ur going to win games. We have alot of talent on the line, but no strahan. Thats why I would of loved Peppers to be honest.

I just dont know what to think
</P>


It kinda explains why we dont see MUCH production from either end too...everyone last year said Tuck got double teamed....well, sure...but then where were teh rest of the DEs when Strahan was double teamed, or vice versa....team exploited Osi's apparent unstable knee, and he did what he could....but the rest of the line was virtually invisible also.</P>




i hope i'm not right on it...

but Osi wasn't 100% (still not an excuse fo rbeing invisible vs the run) and either was Tuck... he was banged up all season being a warrior

</P>


that's why i give props to both of them....
Not that I want to have this conversation again...but...
Osi produces results. When he gets near the QB, he makes it work. He forced like 4 fumbles last year. I know he needs to evolve to either have more finesse and ways to get thru blocks rather than around them, but I mean....I really CANT complain about him as a pass rusher.
Let's just hope, that while we have him, he gets better like he was.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:27 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that
</p>


interesting.....</p>


and also kinda sad =((</p>




i think thats why I'm so not happy with this pick becuase i do believe that. When you have a guy like Strahan, then u stack the talent around him on the line ur going to win games. We have alot of talent on the line, but no strahan. Thats why I would of loved Peppers to be honest.

I just dont know what to think
</p>


It kinda explains why we dont see MUCH production from either end too...everyone last year said Tuck got double teamed....well, sure...but then where were teh rest of the DEs when Strahan was double teamed, or vice versa....team exploited Osi's apparent unstable knee, and he did what he could....but the rest of the line was virtually invisible also.</p>




i hope i'm not right on it...

but Osi wasn't 100% (still not an excuse fo rbeing invisible vs the run) and either was Tuck... he was banged up all season being a warrior

</p>


that's why i give props to both of them....
Not that I want to have this conversation again...but...
Osi produces results. When he gets near the QB, he makes it work. He forced like 4 fumbles last year. I know he needs to evolve to either have more finesse and ways to get thru blocks rather than around them, but I mean....I really CANT complain about him as a pass rusher.
Let's just hope, that while we have him, he gets better like he was.</p>

yea but the thing is hes not being much of a leader and he is becoming a pass rush specialist instead of an all around DE like we all thoiught he was. He needs to shut up and come to play this year.... I personally always thought he was overrated and benefitted from MS, but again I hope i am dead wrong

DavenIII
04-23-2010, 11:38 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that


I think it was Strahan's leadership, more then his physical ability, I never really liked Peirce, but at least he took over the leadership role, even if he wasn't very good at it imho....right now there is noone who is the leader, maybe Rolle, maybe Canty, I don't know, but noone with the leadership abilities of Strahan exists...and that's what we need.

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 11:39 AM
yea but the thing is hes not being much of a leader and he is becoming a pass rush specialist instead of an all around DE like we all thoiught he was. He needs to shut up and come to play this year.... I personally always thought he was overrated and benefitted from MS, but again I hope i am dead wrong
</P>


i hope youre wrong too. do you think maybe the org mishandled something earlier to his vocalizing displeasure? He seemed so pleasant and...idk....nice before last season....who knows..</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:39 AM
A couple years ago they were talking about how the giants mentality was you can never have too many pass rushers.

I thought to myself, what a stupid idea, must just be a reporters catch phrase.

it looks like the Giants really do believe that, apparently the "only" thing that matters to them is pass rushers, they apparently don't understand that a QB can three step drop and pass the ball on quick routes non-stop against us, apparently they simply don't even recognize that it's a possibility.


but honestly hasn't it ever crossed any of ur minds it was so successful because we had one of the best DEs ever lining up for us. Like what if Strahan was the key to all of that


I think it was Strahan's leadership, more then his physical ability, I never really liked Peirce, but at least he took over the leadership role, even if he wasn't very good at it imho....right now there is noone who is the leader, maybe Rolle, maybe Canty, I don't know, but noone with the leadership abilities of Strahan exists...and that's what we need.


i agree with all of that, but I think ur sleeping on how great Strahan actually was playing. His mere presence was ****ing up opposing offenses

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 11:41 AM
yea but the thing is hes not being much of a leader and he is becoming a pass rush specialist instead of an all around DE like we all thoiught he was. He needs to shut up and come to play this year.... I personally always thought he was overrated and benefitted from MS, but again I hope i am dead wrong
</p>


i hope youre wrong too. do you think maybe the org mishandled something earlier to his vocalizing displeasure? He seemed so pleasant and...idk....nice before last season....who knows..</p>

who Osi?

Na hes always had an attitude. He was always trying to hold out and *****... i hate his attitude

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 11:53 AM
its great talking about football again.....[:D]

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 11:55 AM
its great talking about football again.....[:D]
</P>


haha. indeed.</P>


what I hate is that it will be dead air again till training camp starts though....unless we start makin moves! lol.....</P>

lawl
04-23-2010, 12:00 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:01 PM
yea but the thing is hes not being much of a leader and he is becoming a pass rush specialist instead of an all around DE like we all thoiught he was. He needs to shut up and come to play this year.... I personally always thought he was overrated and benefitted from MS, but again I hope i am dead wrong
</p>


i hope youre wrong too. do you think maybe the org mishandled something earlier to his vocalizing displeasure? He seemed so pleasant and...idk....nice before last season....who knows..</p>

who Osi?

Na hes always had an attitude. He was always trying to hold out and *****... i hate his attitude
yea same here. i remember a reporter asking before the superbowl"soo who do you guys(osi and strahan) think is getting more double teams."both smiled and stra said "who do you think?, haha" turned around and osis like"you know its me" and said something about him being old. i know he was teasing, but i didnt like that one bit and you knew stra was getting most the attention. stra had at least 2 more years left in the tank.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 12:02 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 12:03 PM
yea but the thing is hes not being much of a leader and he is becoming a pass rush specialist instead of an all around DE like we all thoiught he was. He needs to shut up and come to play this year.... I personally always thought he was overrated and benefitted from MS, but again I hope i am dead wrong
</p>


i hope youre wrong too. do you think maybe the org mishandled something earlier to his vocalizing displeasure? He seemed so pleasant and...idk....nice before last season....who knows..</p>

who Osi?

Na hes always had an attitude. He was always trying to hold out and *****... i hate his attitude
yea same here. i remember a reporter asking before the superbowl"soo who do you guys(osi and strahan) think is getting more double teams."both smiled and stra said "who do you think?, haha" turned around and osis like"you know its me" and said something about him being old. i know he was teasing, but i didnt like that one bit and you knew stra was getting most the attention. stra had at least 2 more years left in the tank.


haha i think ur nitpicking with that

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:03 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
i think trading for morrisons going to happen.

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 12:05 PM
yea but the thing is hes not being much of a leader and he is becoming a pass rush specialist instead of an all around DE like we all thoiught he was. He needs to shut up and come to play this year.... I personally always thought he was overrated and benefitted from MS, but again I hope i am dead wrong
</P>


i hope youre wrong too. do you think maybe the org mishandled something earlier to his vocalizing displeasure? He seemed so pleasant and...idk....nice before last season....who knows..</P>




who Osi?

Na hes always had an attitude. He was always trying to hold out and *****... i hate his attitude
yea same here. i remember a reporter asking before the superbowl"soo who do you guys(osi and strahan) think is getting more double teams."both smiled and stra said "who do you think?, haha" turned around and osis like"you know its me" and said something about him being old. i know he was teasing, but i didnt like that one bit and you knew stra was getting most the attention. stra had at least 2 more years left in the tank.


haha i think ur nitpicking with that
</P>


lol yea....whats to say those 2 guys didnt have a good relationship?</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:05 PM
yea but the thing is hes not being much of a leader and he is becoming a pass rush specialist instead of an all around DE like we all thoiught he was. He needs to shut up and come to play this year.... I personally always thought he was overrated and benefitted from MS, but again I hope i am dead wrong
</p>


i hope youre wrong too. do you think maybe the org mishandled something earlier to his vocalizing displeasure? He seemed so pleasant and...idk....nice before last season....who knows..</p>

who Osi?

Na hes always had an attitude. He was always trying to hold out and *****... i hate his attitude
yea same here. i remember a reporter asking before the superbowl"soo who do you guys(osi and strahan) think is getting more double teams."both smiled and stra said "who do you think?, haha" turned around and osis like"you know its me" and said something about him being old. i know he was teasing, but i didnt like that one bit and you knew stra was getting most the attention. stra had at least 2 more years left in the tank.


haha i think ur nitpicking with that
yea i definitely am but it pissed me off regardless. haha

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 12:07 PM
yea i definitely am but it pissed me off regardless. haha
</P>


awww youre such a little *****! I hope you didnt lose sleep over it, sweetheart!</P>


lol</P>

lawl
04-23-2010, 12:08 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</P>


</P>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </P>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:10 PM
yea i definitely am but it pissed me off regardless. haha
</p>


awww youre such a little *****! I hope you didnt lose sleep over it, sweetheart!</p>


lol</p>you mean like you and teabow. lol having nightmares about abortions and hangers.

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 12:12 PM
yea i definitely am but it pissed me off regardless. haha
</P>


awww youre such a little *****! I hope you didnt lose sleep over it, sweetheart!</P>


lol</P>


you mean like you and teabow. lol having nightmares about abortions and hangers.
</P>


lol wtf......</P>


not a fan of the coathanger jobs? lol</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 12:13 PM
a thug *** killer

Imagine Mel Kiper saying that while breaking down a player.

That would be the funniest thing ever!!!

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 12:13 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</p>


</p>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </p>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</p>

wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 12:16 PM
a thug *** killer

Imagine Mel Kiper saying that while breaking down a player.

That would be the funniest thing ever!!!
</P>


lmao...</P>

lawl
04-23-2010, 12:17 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</P>


</P>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </P>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</P>




wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?
</P>


</P>


Doesn't mean he translates to it in the NFL, similar to alot of different players available in the draft.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 12:19 PM
From Peter King:

NEW YORK GIANTS -- I think I like Jason Pierre-Paul to the
New York Giants. I really do. But the Giants have spent more time and
energy and prominent picks and free-agents than any team in football to
fix their defensive line long-term, and there's no excuse now for the
Giants not to be as good as anyone in football rushing the passer. <div id="TixyyLink" style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
</div>

shocknaweny
04-23-2010, 12:22 PM
Welcome to the Giants Jason-Piere Paul....I was very shocked that CJ Spiller went 9th to the Bills...I thought he may be there for us @ 15th and the Raiders finally did somethng right taking McClain !

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 12:25 PM
It was a moment that won't soon be forgotten by anyone who attended the
2010 NFL Draft.

The incredible acoustics of Radio City Music Hall
amplified and made the chant crystal clear as the Steelers were set to
make their pick.

"She said no, she said no, she said no," the
balconies roared.

LMAO!!!

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 12:29 PM
IRVING, Texas -- How high are the Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal)'
expectations for first-round draft choice <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25715">Dez
Bryant</a>?</p>


The Cowboys are handing him the No. 88 jersey, which was worn by Cowboys
receiving legends Drew Pearson and Hall of Famer <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=23">Michael
Irvin</a>. In fact, the team already had Bryant No. 88 jerseys for sale
on the team's website Friday morning.</p>


</p>

Good pick for them but this just sounds so gay to me. JJ is so ****ing wierd man.
</p>

lawl
04-23-2010, 12:29 PM
It was a moment that won't soon be forgotten by anyone who attended the 2010 NFL Draft.

The incredible acoustics of Radio City Music Hall amplified and made the chant crystal clear as the Steelers were set to make their pick.

"She said no, she said no, she said no," the balconies roared.

LMAO!!!
</P>


</P>


That kid from Make-a-Wish was up there too. I knew fans would be chanting something about Ben.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 12:30 PM
PITTSBURGH -- Disgraced <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=pit">Pittsburgh
Steelers</a> quarterback <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5536">Ben
Roethlisberger</a> has been traded for NHL Hall of Famer <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=1084">Mario
Lemieux</a> -- at the Pittsburgh Zoo &amp; PPG Aquarium.</p>

Roethlisberger's
name has been replaced with Lemieux's on a display that compares the
height of elephants with other creatures.</p>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 12:31 PM
From Peter King:

NEW YORK GIANTS -- I think I like Jason Pierre-Paul to the New York Giants. I really do. But the Giants have spent more time and energy and prominent picks and free-agents than any team in football to fix their defensive line long-term, and there's no excuse now for the Giants not to be as good as anyone in football rushing the passer.
<DIV id=TixyyLink style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; TEXT-ALIGN: left; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
</DIV>



</P>


Bold statement....they REALLY think this guy will have a ridiculous impact right off the bat eh? nice.</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:32 PM
It was a moment that won't soon be forgotten by anyone who attended the
2010 NFL Draft.

The incredible acoustics of Radio City Music Hall
amplified and made the chant crystal clear as the Steelers were set to
make their pick.

"She said no, she said no, she said no," the
balconies roared.

LMAO!!!
lol awesome.

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 12:34 PM
Still crazy to think Tebow went before McCoy and Clausen...

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 12:37 PM
From Peter King:

NEW YORK GIANTS -- I think I like Jason Pierre-Paul to the New York Giants. I really do. But the Giants have spent more time and energy and prominent picks and free-agents than any team in football to fix their defensive line long-term, and there's no excuse now for the Giants not to be as good as anyone in football rushing the passer.
<div id="TixyyLink" style="border: medium none; overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;">
</div>



</p>


Bold statement....they REALLY think this guy will have a ridiculous impact right off the bat eh? nice.</p>
Every person I read says the same thing. It is nice to think about at least. Seems like he could be LEGIT

shocknaweny
04-23-2010, 12:37 PM
Still crazy to think Tebow went before McCoy and Clausen...
</P>


</P>


agreed.....I think the Vikings will land Clausen !</P>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:39 PM
IRVING, Texas -- How high are the Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal)'
expectations for first-round draft choice <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25715">Dez
Bryant</a>?</p>


The Cowboys are handing him the No. 88 jersey, which was worn by Cowboys
receiving legends Drew Pearson and Hall of Famer <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=23">Michael
Irvin</a>. In fact, the team already had Bryant No. 88 jerseys for sale
on the team's website Friday morning.</p>


</p>

Good pick for them but this just sounds so gay to me. JJ is so ****ing wierd man.
</p>soooo cooool jj.......ya ****in loser.

byron
04-23-2010, 12:41 PM
call me stupid.. but I have seen the freak of nature comment more than a few times in regards to jpp just wtf does that mean... is it because of back flips or the fact that he only been playing football a short period of time...or a sound bite or spin....fm

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 12:43 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</p>


</p>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </p>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</p>




wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?
</p>


</p>


Doesn't mean he translates to it in the NFL, similar to alot of different players available in the draft.</p>

oh alrite then why do u think hes not a good fit?

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 12:43 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</p>


</p>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </p>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</p>




wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?
</p>


</p>


Doesn't mean he translates to it in the NFL, similar to alot of different players available in the draft.</p>

oh alrite then why do u think hes not a good fit?

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 12:44 PM
Welcome to the Giants Jason-Piere Paul....I was very shocked that CJ Spiller went 9th to the Bills...I thought he may be there for us @ 15th and the Raiders finally did somethng right taking McClain !

anybody esle see how pissed Spiller looked when he went to buffalo lol...

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:44 PM
so how we gonna do this on 3rd and longs?



paulie I tuck I kiwi I osi?



tuck I paul I kiwi I osi?


i was just thinking, you think we might be shopping kiwi instead of osi?

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:47 PM
Welcome to the Giants Jason-Piere Paul....I was very shocked that CJ Spiller went 9th to the Bills...I thought he may be there for us @ 15th and the Raiders finally did somethng right taking McClain !

anybody esle see how pissed Spiller looked when he went to buffalo lol...
the guy 1 or 2 picks ahead of us looked a bit pissed. his mom and dad were all over him while he was on the phone with his agent, not looking happy all.


paul looked happy....

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 12:50 PM
actually i think it was that safety that went to seattle. sorry im not big on college fb.

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 12:52 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</P>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </P>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</P>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</P>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</P>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


</P>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 12:53 PM
The <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf">Buffalo
Bills</a> and Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle)
have contacted the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl)
about trading for the No. 33 pick in the draft, according to a league
source.</p>

Both teams want to draft a quarterback and the Rams have
the opening pick of the second round Friday night, with Notre Dame's <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13198">Jimmy
Clausen</a> and Texas' <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199">Colt
McCoy</a> still available. </p>

Other teams also are expected to bid
for St. Louis' pick. </p>

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 12:56 PM
fromwhat i've readJPP = another Ramses Barden project?

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 12:59 PM
I like Spikes, Lee and possibly Campbell with our 2nd pick. </P>


I will say this, if by some shock Sergio Kindle falls to us, it would be hard to pass on him. Although he would never get past Miami.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 12:59 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</p>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </p>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</p>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</p>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</p>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


</p>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</p>

u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:00 PM
The <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf">Buffalo
Bills</a> and Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle)
have contacted the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl)
about trading for the No. 33 pick in the draft, according to a league
source.</p>

Both teams want to draft a quarterback and the Rams have
the opening pick of the second round Friday night, with Notre Dame's <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13198">Jimmy
Clausen</a> and Texas' <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199">Colt
McCoy</a> still available. </p>

Other teams also are expected to bid
for St. Louis' pick. </p>

maybe this is a stupid question... but why are the Rams not looking for a QB?

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 01:01 PM
fromwhat i've readJPP = another Ramses Barden project?nah, i see us rotating the line more. well see him this year.

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 01:03 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</p>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </p>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</p>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</p>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</p>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


</p>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</p>

u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
your right but morehead makes a point regardless. digressing 10 sacks a season in 3 years is horrible.

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 01:05 PM
The <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf">Buffalo
Bills</a> and Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle)
have contacted the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl)
about trading for the No. 33 pick in the draft, according to a league
source.</p>

Both teams want to draft a quarterback and the Rams have
the opening pick of the second round Friday night, with Notre Dame's <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13198">Jimmy
Clausen</a> and Texas' <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199">Colt
McCoy</a> still available. </p>

Other teams also are expected to bid
for St. Louis' pick. </p>

<font color="#0000ff">maybe this is a stupid question</font>... but why are the Rams not looking for a QB?

Maybe? lol

I can see where you are going with this but no...

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 01:07 PM
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. - A Missouri man who won a
$258 million Powerball jackpot says he hasn't decided yet if he'll quit
his job at the convenience store where he bought the winning ticket.<p class="textBodyBlack"><span id="byLine"></span>Chris Shaw — a
29-year-old tattooed father of three who was raised by his grandparents
in rural southern Missouri — came forward Thursday as the winner of the
10th-largest Powerball jackpot ever. </p><p class="textBodyBlack"><span id="byLine"></span>Shaw said he had just $28.96 in his bank account and
recently bought a 1998 Ford Ranger from a friend who agreed to let him
pay off the $1,000 price $100 at a time.
</p><p class="textBodyBlack">
</p><p class="textBodyBlack">How would it be??? lol
</p>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:07 PM
The Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) and Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle) have contacted the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl) about trading for the No. 33 pick in the draft, according to a league source.</P>


Both teams want to draft a quarterback and the Rams have the opening pick of the second round Friday night, with Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13198) and Texas' Colt McCoy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199) still available. </P>


Other teams also are expected to bid for St. Louis' pick. </P>




maybe this is a stupid question... but why are the Rams not looking for a QB?
</P>


You know how they say that there are no stupid questions.</P>


<FONT size=6>They are wrong</FONT>.</P>


Why would they draft two?</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:10 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</P>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </P>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</P>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</P>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</P>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


</P>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</P>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</P>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</P>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</P>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:12 PM
The Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) and Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle) have contacted the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl) about trading for the No. 33 pick in the draft, according to a league source.</p>


Both teams want to draft a quarterback and the Rams have the opening pick of the second round Friday night, with Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13198) and Texas' Colt McCoy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199) still available. </p>


Other teams also are expected to bid for St. Louis' pick. </p>




maybe this is a stupid question... but why are the Rams not looking for a QB?
</p>


You know how they say that there are no stupid questions.</p>


<font size="6">They are wrong</font>.</p>


Why would they draft two?</p>

total brain fart lol

i've had a stressful 24 hours bite me

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:15 PM
The Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) and Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle) have contacted the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl) about trading for the No. 33 pick in the draft, according to a league source.</P>


Both teams want to draft a quarterback and the Rams have the opening pick of the second round Friday night, with Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13198) and Texas' Colt McCoy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199) still available. </P>


Other teams also are expected to bid for St. Louis' pick. </P>




maybe this is a stupid question... but why are the Rams not looking for a QB?
</P>


You know how they say that there are no stupid questions.</P>


<FONT size=6>They are wrong</FONT>.</P>


Why would they draft two?</P>




total brain fart lol

i've had a stressful 24 hours bite me
</P>


Time to lose the Av.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:15 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</p>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </p>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</p>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</p>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</p>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


</p>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</p>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</p>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</p>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</p>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</p>

wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:16 PM
The Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf) and Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle) have contacted the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl) about trading for the No. 33 pick in the draft, according to a league source.</p>


Both teams want to draft a quarterback and the Rams have the opening pick of the second round Friday night, with Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13198) and Texas' Colt McCoy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13199) still available. </p>


Other teams also are expected to bid for St. Louis' pick. </p>




maybe this is a stupid question... but why are the Rams not looking for a QB?
</p>


You know how they say that there are no stupid questions.</p>


<font size="6">They are wrong</font>.</p>


Why would they draft two?</p>




total brain fart lol

i've had a stressful 24 hours bite me
</p>


Time to lose the Av.</p>

i'm aware.. just waiting for a pick i like then the new one will come up

lawl
04-23-2010, 01:17 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</P>


</P>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </P>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</P>




wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?
</P>


</P>


Doesn't mean he translates to it in the NFL, similar to alot of different players available in the draft.</P>




oh alrite then why do u think hes not a good fit?
</P>


</P>


too slow, pretty general answer, but oh well lol...How many starting LBers on a 4-3 team ran slower than 5.0?</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:19 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</P>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </P>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</P>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</P>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</P>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


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We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</P>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
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My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</P>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</P>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</P>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
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In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</P>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</P>