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MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:21 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</p>


</p>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </p>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</p>




wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?
</p>


</p>


Doesn't mean he translates to it in the NFL, similar to alot of different players available in the draft.</p>




oh alrite then why do u think hes not a good fit?
</p>


</p>


too slow, pretty general answer, but oh well lol...How many starting LBers on a 4-3 team ran slower than 5.0?</p>

i hear ya... but still they say he plays fast

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:21 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</P>


</P>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </P>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</P>




wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?
</P>


</P>


Doesn't mean he translates to it in the NFL, similar to alot of different players available in the draft.</P>




oh alrite then why do u think hes not a good fit?
</P>


</P>


too slow, pretty general answer, but oh well lol...How many starting LBers on a 4-3 team ran slower than 5.0?</P>


</P>


You guys and your 40 times.</P>


He wasn't slow on the football field.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:22 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</p>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </p>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</p>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</p>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</p>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


</p>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</p>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</p>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</p>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</p>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</p>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</p>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</p>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</p>

teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:22 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</p>


</p>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </p>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</p>




wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?
</p>


</p>


Doesn't mean he translates to it in the NFL, similar to alot of different players available in the draft.</p>




oh alrite then why do u think hes not a good fit?
</p>


</p>


too slow, pretty general answer, but oh well lol...How many starting LBers on a 4-3 team ran slower than 5.0?</p>


</p>


You guys and your 40 times.</p>


He wasn't slow on the football field.</p>

i hear ya about the 40s moorehead, but breaking 5 is pretty bad... that has to throw up some flags

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:22 PM
The only position where I think 40 times is really important is DB. Other than that, the Hall of Fame is full of guys who couldn't run the 40 worth a damn.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:23 PM
The only position where I think 40 times is really important is DB. Other than that, the Hall of Fame is full of guys who couldn't run the 40 worth a damn.

most of those guys in the HOF didn't have to deal with teh size n speed thats going on in todays game

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 01:24 PM
You guys and your 40 times.


He wasn't slow on the football field.</P>


</P>


agreed....with pads on is another story...if the guy moves well back and forth....then sounds ok in my book, and judge from what I have seen him play, I still think it's worth our draft pick.</P>

lawl
04-23-2010, 01:25 PM
So, I'm hoping for a MLB with our next pick(chaney, butler? idc)then trade up for that Akwasi guy (cornerback), then later on pick up a Guard since theres always pretty good guards laying around in the late rounds.

no love for spikes?

What do u think about trading for Morrison?
</P>


</P>


Ideally Morrison for a 5th or 6th would be sick since then we could get like that Charles Brown dude from USC (OT) and continue our streak of drafting players from USC in the 2nd. </P>


Spikes has no place in a 4-3, I use to want him bad because our D is a bunch of women and I want a thug *** killer for intimidation, but he just doesnt fit in here at all.</P>




wasn't he a MLB in a 4-3?
</P>


</P>


Doesn't mean he translates to it in the NFL, similar to alot of different players available in the draft.</P>




oh alrite then why do u think hes not a good fit?
</P>


</P>


too slow, pretty general answer, but oh well lol...How many starting LBers on a 4-3 team ran slower than 5.0?</P>


</P>


You guys and your 40 times.</P>


He wasn't slow on the football field.</P>


</P>


</P>


sure he was. he's going to a 34 team after the 2nd round.</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:25 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</P>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </P>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</P>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</P>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</P>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


</P>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</P>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</P>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</P>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</P>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</P>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</P>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</P>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</P>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</P>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</P>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</P>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</P>

lawl
04-23-2010, 01:29 PM
The best players in the leagues are athletic freaks and are all fast.</P>


Best MLB- Patrick Willis, fast.</P>


WR- Fitz Andre, fast.</P>


RB- CJ AP, fast.</P>


S- Ed Reed Polamalu, fast.</P>


CB- Revis Nnamdi DRC, fast</P>


OLB- Ware Briggs, fast.</P>


The slowest MLB in a 43 last year was probably Pierce and he's probably just as fast as Spikes is NOW, speed is most definately a factor, you'd be dumb to think otherwise.</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 01:29 PM
our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</P>


pretty sure this is the line of the day. lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:29 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</p>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </p>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</p>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</p>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</p>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


</p>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</p>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</p>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</p>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</p>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</p>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</p>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</p>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</p>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</p>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</p>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</p>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</p>

that was more of a 3 step drop and pass due to our secondary tho... nobody is getting to a qb on three step drops... we were torched and we got OWNED on 3rd and shorts.. we had no aggressiveness. Pierce was a half step slow, then we had Goff in there

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:30 PM
The only position where I think 40 times is really important is DB. Other than that, the Hall of Fame is full of guys who couldn't run the 40 worth a damn.

most of those guys in the HOF didn't have to deal with teh size n speed thats going on in todays game
</P>


The game is not much faster at all than it was 30 years ago. And its al relative. "Playing fast" doesn't always translate to running the 40 fast. Jerry Rice and Rod Smith beat guys faster than them every day. And Tim Carter was a bullet.</P>


And I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.</P>


(Even though I'm talking to a guy with an Oakland raider as an avatar.)</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 01:31 PM
The slowest MLB in a 43 last year was probably Pierce and he's probably just as fast as Spikes is NOW</P>


lol?</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:31 PM
The best players in the leagues are athletic freaks and are all fast.</p>


Best MLB- Patrick Willis, fast.</p>


WR- Fitz Andre, fast.</p>


RB- CJ AP, fast.</p>


S- Ed Reed Polamalu, fast.</p>


CB- Revis Nnamdi DRC, fast</p>


OLB- Ware Briggs, fast.</p>


The slowest MLB in a 43 last year was probably Pierce and he's probably just as fast as Spikes is NOW, speed is most definately a factor, you'd be dumb to think otherwise.</p>

we understand that, but what we're saying is that 40 times doens't always translate to onfield speed

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:33 PM
The only position where I think 40 times is really important is DB. Other than that, the Hall of Fame is full of guys who couldn't run the 40 worth a damn.

most of those guys in the HOF didn't have to deal with teh size n speed thats going on in todays game
</p>


The game is not much faster at all than it was 30 years ago. And its al relative. "Playing fast" doesn't always translate to running the 40 fast. Jerry Rice and Rod Smith beat guys faster than them every day. And Tim Carter was a bullet.</p>


And I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.</p>


(Even though I'm talking to a guy with an Oakland raider as an avatar.)</p>

Moorehead... this is where ur old age catches up with u in the argument of talking about the "good ol days", its bigger, faster, stronger every year and it is a world of difference from 30 years ago. Your the only person that woul d say its not much different. I've heard people your age admit to this, as well as commentators, and players.

Obviously i wasn't around, but u are in the minority of that opinion. Infact, i think ur alone in that opinion, i dont think i've ever heard anybody say anything like that

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:34 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</P>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </P>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</P>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</P>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</P>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


</P>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</P>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</P>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</P>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</P>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</P>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</P>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</P>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</P>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</P>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</P>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</P>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</P>




that was more of a 3 step drop and pass due to our secondary tho... nobody is getting to a qb on three step drops... we were torched and we got OWNED on 3rd and shorts.. we had no aggressiveness. Pierce was a half step slow, then we had Goff in there
</P>


You aren't as cute as I am when <FONT size=4><U>you're</U></FONT> reaching.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:34 PM
The slowest MLB in a 43 last year was probably Pierce and he's probably just as fast as Spikes is NOW</p>


lol?</p>

yea thats a crazy comment lawl

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:37 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</p>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </p>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</p>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</p>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</p>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


</p>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</p>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</p>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</p>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</p>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</p>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</p>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</p>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</p>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</p>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</p>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</p>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</p>




that was more of a 3 step drop and pass due to our secondary tho... nobody is getting to a qb on three step drops... we were torched and we got OWNED on 3rd and shorts.. we had no aggressiveness. Pierce was a half step slow, then we had Goff in there
</p>


You aren't as cute as I am when <font size="4"><u>you're</u></font> reaching.</p>


reaching when i said we were AWFUL on third and short plays?

allrighty then

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:37 PM
The only position where I think 40 times is really important is DB. Other than that, the Hall of Fame is full of guys who couldn't run the 40 worth a damn.

most of those guys in the HOF didn't have to deal with teh size n speed thats going on in todays game
</P>


The game is not much faster at all than it was 30 years ago. And its al relative. "Playing fast" doesn't always translate to running the 40 fast. Jerry Rice and Rod Smith beat guys faster than them every day. And Tim Carter was a bullet.</P>


And I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.</P>


(Even though I'm talking to a guy with an Oakland raider as an avatar.)</P>




Moorehead... this is where ur old age catches up with u in the argument of talking about the "good ol days", its bigger, faster, stronger every year and it is a world of difference from 30 years ago. Your the only person that woul d say its not much different. I've heard people your age admit to this, as well as commentators, and players.

Obviously i wasn't around, but u are in the minority of that opinion. Infact, i think ur alone in that opinion, i dont think i've ever heard anybody say anything like that
</P>


OJ Simpson (sorry for the dark name) was faster than any player today when he came out of USC.</P>


He ran a 9.3, 100 yard dash. Bob Hayes was the worlds faster human.</P>


And it really doesn't matter. Its all relavent to the other players. If your a tenth of a second faster it doesn't matter when the rest of the league is too.</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:38 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</P>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </P>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</P>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</P>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</P>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


</P>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</P>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</P>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</P>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</P>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</P>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</P>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</P>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</P>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</P>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</P>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</P>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</P>




that was more of a 3 step drop and pass due to our secondary tho... nobody is getting to a qb on three step drops... we were torched and we got OWNED on 3rd and shorts.. we had no aggressiveness. Pierce was a half step slow, then we had Goff in there
</P>


You aren't as cute as I am when <FONT size=4><U>you're</U></FONT> reaching.</P>





reaching when i said we were AWFUL on third and short plays?

allrighty then

</P>


Iwas referring to your 3 step drop excuse. Those bombs over the top to DJax weren't on 3 step drops.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:39 PM
The only position where I think 40 times is really important is DB. Other than that, the Hall of Fame is full of guys who couldn't run the 40 worth a damn.

most of those guys in the HOF didn't have to deal with teh size n speed thats going on in todays game
</p>


The game is not much faster at all than it was 30 years ago. And its al relative. "Playing fast" doesn't always translate to running the 40 fast. Jerry Rice and Rod Smith beat guys faster than them every day. And Tim Carter was a bullet.</p>


And I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.</p>


(Even though I'm talking to a guy with an Oakland raider as an avatar.)</p>




Moorehead... this is where ur old age catches up with u in the argument of talking about the "good ol days", its bigger, faster, stronger every year and it is a world of difference from 30 years ago. Your the only person that woul d say its not much different. I've heard people your age admit to this, as well as commentators, and players.

Obviously i wasn't around, but u are in the minority of that opinion. Infact, i think ur alone in that opinion, i dont think i've ever heard anybody say anything like that
</p>


OJ Simpson (sorry for the dark name) was faster than any player today when he came out of USC.</p>


He ran a 9.3, 100 yard dash. Bob Hayes was the worlds faster human.</p>


And it really doesn't matter. Its all relavent to the other players. If your a tenth of a second faster it doesn't matter when the rest of the league is too.</p>

we're talking about the total play of the game. Yes i know there were certain players who speed would of held up today, but ur talking the game itself. Everybody is fast in this league, including lineman

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:41 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</p>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </p>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</p>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</p>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</p>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


</p>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</p>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</p>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</p>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</p>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</p>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</p>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</p>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</p>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</p>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</p>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</p>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</p>




that was more of a 3 step drop and pass due to our secondary tho... nobody is getting to a qb on three step drops... we were torched and we got OWNED on 3rd and shorts.. we had no aggressiveness. Pierce was a half step slow, then we had Goff in there
</p>


You aren't as cute as I am when <font size="4"><u>you're</u></font> reaching.</p>





reaching when i said we were AWFUL on third and short plays?

allrighty then

</p>


Iwas referring to your 3 step drop excuse. Those bombs over the top to DJax weren't on 3 step drops.</p>

Djack streaking across the field wide open is also on the corners

i am not denying that our pass rush wasn't there... but either was our rush defense and our secondary was so banged up that WRs were wide open

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:44 PM
The only position where I think 40 times is really important is DB. Other than that, the Hall of Fame is full of guys who couldn't run the 40 worth a damn.

most of those guys in the HOF didn't have to deal with teh size n speed thats going on in todays game
</P>


The game is not much faster at all than it was 30 years ago. And its al relative. "Playing fast" doesn't always translate to running the 40 fast. Jerry Rice and Rod Smith beat guys faster than them every day. And Tim Carter was a bullet.</P>


And I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.</P>


(Even though I'm talking to a guy with an Oakland raider as an avatar.)</P>




Moorehead... this is where ur old age catches up with u in the argument of talking about the "good ol days", its bigger, faster, stronger every year and it is a world of difference from 30 years ago. Your the only person that woul d say its not much different. I've heard people your age admit to this, as well as commentators, and players.

Obviously i wasn't around, but u are in the minority of that opinion. Infact, i think ur alone in that opinion, i dont think i've ever heard anybody say anything like that
</P>


OJ Simpson (sorry for the dark name) was faster than any player today when he came out of USC.</P>


He ran a 9.3, 100 yard dash. Bob Hayes was the worlds faster human.</P>


And it really doesn't matter. Its all relavent to the other players. If your a tenth of a second faster it doesn't matter when the rest of the league is too.</P>




we're talking about the total play of the game. Yes i know there were certain players who speed would of held up today, but ur talking the game itself. Everybody is fast in this league, including lineman
</P>


Again, you are missing my point. Speed mattered then and it matters now. I'm saying 40 yard results are not the be all end all. Your argument is specious too about it mattering more now than then. Speed matters onlyas itcompares to the other players on the field.</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:46 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</P>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </P>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</P>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</P>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</P>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


</P>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</P>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</P>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</P>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</P>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</P>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</P>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</P>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</P>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</P>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</P>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</P>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</P>




that was more of a 3 step drop and pass due to our secondary tho... nobody is getting to a qb on three step drops... we were torched and we got OWNED on 3rd and shorts.. we had no aggressiveness. Pierce was a half step slow, then we had Goff in there
</P>


You aren't as cute as I am when <FONT size=4><U>you're</U></FONT> reaching.</P>





reaching when i said we were AWFUL on third and short plays?

allrighty then

</P>


Iwas referring to your 3 step drop excuse. Those bombs over the top to DJax weren't on 3 step drops.</P>




Djack streaking across the field wide open is also on the corners

i am not denying that our pass rush wasn't there... but either was our rush defense and our secondary was so banged up that WRs were wide open
</P>


All true. But in this league, if you get to the QB, you are a tough defense. The rules of the game have made that so.</P>


And we won the superbowl because we knocked Tom Brady on his *** 19 times.</P>


Don't make me use the "D" word with you.</P>

DavenIII
04-23-2010, 01:47 PM
Saw this somewhere else.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1537/119/n71980636405_3848.jpg

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:49 PM
Saw this somewhere else.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1537/119/n71980636405_3848.jpg
</P>


Perfect timing. Speak of the devil.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:50 PM
The only position where I think 40 times is really important is DB. Other than that, the Hall of Fame is full of guys who couldn't run the 40 worth a damn.

most of those guys in the HOF didn't have to deal with teh size n speed thats going on in todays game
</p>


The game is not much faster at all than it was 30 years ago. And its al relative. "Playing fast" doesn't always translate to running the 40 fast. Jerry Rice and Rod Smith beat guys faster than them every day. And Tim Carter was a bullet.</p>


And I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.</p>


(Even though I'm talking to a guy with an Oakland raider as an avatar.)</p>




Moorehead... this is where ur old age catches up with u in the argument of talking about the "good ol days", its bigger, faster, stronger every year and it is a world of difference from 30 years ago. Your the only person that woul d say its not much different. I've heard people your age admit to this, as well as commentators, and players.

Obviously i wasn't around, but u are in the minority of that opinion. Infact, i think ur alone in that opinion, i dont think i've ever heard anybody say anything like that
</p>


OJ Simpson (sorry for the dark name) was faster than any player today when he came out of USC.</p>


He ran a 9.3, 100 yard dash. Bob Hayes was the worlds faster human.</p>


And it really doesn't matter. Its all relavent to the other players. If your a tenth of a second faster it doesn't matter when the rest of the league is too.</p>




we're talking about the total play of the game. Yes i know there were certain players who speed would of held up today, but ur talking the game itself. Everybody is fast in this league, including lineman
</p>


Again, you are missing my point. Speed mattered then and it matters now. I'm saying 40 yard results are not the be all end all. Your argument is specious too about it mattering more now than then. Speed matters onlyas itcompares to the other players on the field.</p>

na my point was just that if some of those hofers played today, they wouldn't be hall of famers

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:51 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</p>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </p>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</p>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</p>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</p>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</p>


</p>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</p>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</p>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</p>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</p>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</p>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</p>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</p>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</p>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</p>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</p>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</p>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</p>




that was more of a 3 step drop and pass due to our secondary tho... nobody is getting to a qb on three step drops... we were torched and we got OWNED on 3rd and shorts.. we had no aggressiveness. Pierce was a half step slow, then we had Goff in there
</p>


You aren't as cute as I am when <font size="4"><u>you're</u></font> reaching.</p>





reaching when i said we were AWFUL on third and short plays?

allrighty then

</p>


Iwas referring to your 3 step drop excuse. Those bombs over the top to DJax weren't on 3 step drops.</p>




Djack streaking across the field wide open is also on the corners

i am not denying that our pass rush wasn't there... but either was our rush defense and our secondary was so banged up that WRs were wide open
</p>


All true. But in this league, if you get to the QB, you are a tough defense. The rules of the game have made that so.</p>


And we won the superbowl because we knocked Tom Brady on his *** 19 times.</p>


Don't make me use the "D" word with you.</p>

i'm no offensive coordinator, but if my QB is getting hit alot and the opposing team has a bad rush defense im going to draw, screen, run, and 3 step drop the **** out of them

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 01:52 PM
Saw this somewhere else.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1537/119/n71980636405_3848.jpg
</p>


Perfect timing. Speak of the devil.</p>

LMAOOOO

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 01:57 PM
For all you guys who don't think JPP is a good fit I would just say this. Maybe you should look at this , not based on what "positions" we need, but what "capabilities " we need on defense.</P>


We lacked in our ability to cover downfield. Antrel Rolle is a great cover safety. We lacked in pass rush. JPP is an attempt to address that. </P>


And if you all don't understand whats happened to our pass rush, let me show you what I posted on another thread.</P>


2007............52 sacks...............Superbowl Champs</P>


2008............42 sacks...............NFC East Champs, first round loss</P>


2009............31.5 sacks............8-8, 3rd place, and gave up 40+ points 5 times.</P>


</P>


We need to get back to what Giants football mandates, pressure on the QB.</P>




u fail to mention that in 07 we had one of the greatest DEs to ever play the game on our team

2009 we had injured Osi and Tuck
</P>


My point is that our ability to win football games relates very much with our ability the get to the QB.</P>


We had 50+ sacks in 07 in part due to the fact that we had a strong rotation and everybody was much more fresh during the season.</P>


"ouch".......Tom Brady (after superbowl 42)</P>




wheres ur stats for how we were against the run?

8th vs the run in 07, 9th vs the run in 08, 14th vs the run in 09... and now we lost our captain at LB....

the whole defense faultered
</P>


In the context of 32 teams, those #'s don't vary that much. We're in the top half in all 3 years.</P>


Its a passing league, and therefore its about stopping the pass and getting to the QB.</P>




teams run on us at will last year just as much as they threw...


</P>


Come on Matt, we got torched by McNabb, Breese, Farve. Even friggin Matt Moore lit us up.</P>


Our entire defense was bad, but our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</P>


(If horrificness isn't a word, it should be)</P>




that was more of a 3 step drop and pass due to our secondary tho... nobody is getting to a qb on three step drops... we were torched and we got OWNED on 3rd and shorts.. we had no aggressiveness. Pierce was a half step slow, then we had Goff in there
</P>


You aren't as cute as I am when <FONT size=4><U>you're</U></FONT> reaching.</P>





reaching when i said we were AWFUL on third and short plays?

allrighty then

</P>


Iwas referring to your 3 step drop excuse. Those bombs over the top to DJax weren't on 3 step drops.</P>




Djack streaking across the field wide open is also on the corners

i am not denying that our pass rush wasn't there... but either was our rush defense and our secondary was so banged up that WRs were wide open
</P>


All true. But in this league, if you get to the QB, you are a tough defense. The rules of the game have made that so.</P>


And we won the superbowl because we knocked Tom Brady on his *** 19 times.</P>


Don't make me use the "D" word with you.</P>




i'm no offensive coordinator, but if my QB is getting hit alot and the opposing team has a bad rush defense im going to draw, screen, run, and 3 step drop the **** out of them
</P>


You know what. Antonio Pierce wasn't fast at all. But he was a hell of a football player. Not many guys could slice through all those tackles and take down Grant behind the line of scrimmage in that Chamionship game.</P>


Still one of the greatest defensive plays I ever saw.</P>


If I knew Spikes would have the kind of career that AP had, I'd take him in a heartbeat.</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 02:04 PM
You know what. Antonio Pierce wasn't fast at all. But he was a hell of a football player. Not many guys could slice through all those tackles and take down Grant behind the line of scrimmage in that Chamionship game.


Still one of the greatest defensive plays I ever saw.</P>


If I knew Spikes would have the kind of career that AP had, I'd take him in a heartbeat.</P>


</P>


word @ that, old man Morehead....</P>


</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 02:05 PM
ok so....poll...are we happy with the JPP pick?? I know it seemed a bit offbeat, but ME...I think it's a good pick. I'm happy with it.</P>


What's everyone's premiliminary verdict?</P>

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 02:06 PM
ok so....poll...are we happy with the JPP pick?? I know it seemed a bit offbeat, but ME...I think it's a good pick. I'm happy with it.</P>


What's everyone's premiliminary verdict?</P>


</P>


He was the best player available at 15.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 02:15 PM
our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.</p>


pretty sure this is the line of the day. lol</p>
BUMP

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 02:17 PM
Saw this somewhere else.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1537/119/n71980636405_3848.jpg
</p>



</p>
I don't get it?

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 02:20 PM
ok so....poll...are we happy with the JPP pick?? I know it seemed a bit offbeat, but ME...I think it's a good pick. I'm happy with it.</p>


What's everyone's premiliminary verdict?</p>


</p>


He was the best player available at 15.</p>
I am happy ( I guess ). I wanted us to take Thomas so Morehead could brag for eternity. lol

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 02:26 PM
ok so....poll...are we happy with the JPP pick?? I know it seemed a bit offbeat, but ME...I think it's a good pick. I'm happy with it.</p>


What's everyone's premiliminary verdict?</p>

i keep trying to be, but im not

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 02:26 PM
ok so....poll...are we happy with the JPP pick?? I know it seemed a bit offbeat, but ME...I think it's a good pick. I'm happy with it.</P>


What's everyone's premiliminary verdict?</P>


</P>


He was the best player available at 15.</P>



I am happy ( I guess ). I wanted us to take Thomas so Morehead could brag for eternity. lol
</P>


lol that's the worst reason ever....</P>

DavenIII
04-23-2010, 02:26 PM
Meh I don't see it solving any of our problems, people will say the increased pass rush ability will help out our secondary, but I think the reason our Pass Rush has been going down has nothing to do with our ability to pass rush, I think it has to do with teams understanding that we will rush, and throwing quick slants that our LINEBACKERS have problems defending, I don't see how JPP helps us with that.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 02:26 PM
Saw this somewhere else.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1537/119/n71980636405_3848.jpg
</p>



</p>
I don't get it?


linkin park song - crawling

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 02:28 PM
ok so....poll...are we happy with the JPP pick?? I know it seemed a bit offbeat, but ME...I think it's a good pick. I'm happy with it.</P>


What's everyone's premiliminary verdict?</P>




i keep trying to be, but im not
</P>


I understand! I mean, i'm glad we got this BEAST of a player.....I just dont know if the team is repairing it's broken spots.
No need to explain the passrush problem again, Morehead...</P>

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 02:30 PM
our pass defense was epic in its horrificness.


pretty sure this is the line of the day. lol</P>


bumping again =]
</P>


</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 02:36 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">Adam Carman (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=606484379)
OK, Giants fans, here`s the deal: People BOOED the Phil Simms pick in
79, thought Eli wasn`t worth trading Philip Rivers for and thought we
should trade up to take Heyward Bey instead of Hakeem Nicks. How about
for now, at least, we assume the Giants`front office knows more about
the situation than we do?</h6>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 02:39 PM
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft/2010/introducing-sackseer

uhg....

patsrule666
04-23-2010, 02:40 PM
<FONT color=#0000ff>“We think the guy has the biggest upside of any player in the draft,”</FONT> Reese said. “That’s how we feel about this guy. We think the sky’s the limit.”

<FONT color=#0000ff size=4>“We’re not trading Osi</FONT>, so you don’t even have to ask that question,” Reese said

“Let’s play,” Coughlin said. “Everybody is going to have a chance to contribute. We didn’t rush the passer well last year. Let’s go back to doing the things we did well a couple of years ago. It’s let’s stop talking and go play.”


The lack of experience, Reese said, is something “you take into consideration,” but the potential was too much for the Giants to ignore.</P>


“He has things you can’t teach,” Reese said. “He’s a rare, gifted, talented kid. He is uncommon, that’s a good word to use. He’s long, he’s fast, he’s athletic, he’s tough, he’s got a great motor.”</P>


Things could have fallen more advantageously for the Giants. McClain, the object of their affection, did not fall to them and they never even got a chance to trade up a few spots to get him. There was also great interest by the Giants in running back C.J. Spiller, but that dream died when the Bills took him at No. 9.</P>


The Giants had their pick of some highly-rated players: offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga, defensive tackle Dan Williams, guard Mike Iupati and defensive end Derrick Morgan, but they went with Pierre-Paul.</P>


“This was an easy pick for us,” Reese said.</P>


Pierre-Paul wasn’t sure who would pick him.</P>


“I’m just glad I got picked,” he said. “Now I get to come in, settle down and become a great football player.”</P>


With the Raiders making the surprise pick of McClain, their veteran middle linebacker, <FONT color=#0000ff>Kirk Morrison, becomes expendable.</FONT> Morrison recently signed his restricted free agent tender, and if the Giants are interested they certainly could make a deal and probably give up no higher than a fifth or sixth-round pick.</P>


Morrison is only 28 years old and had been a sturdy, solid but not spectacular starter the past six years in Oakland.</P>In the NFL: <FONT color=#0000ff>Considered to be the best pure-pass rusher in the draft.</FONT> There's no starting job up for grabs, but he will be used immediately in certain packages and asked to go get after the quarterback.
<DIV id=TixyyLink style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; TEXT-ALIGN: left; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/untested_jpp_adds_to_giants_pass_okE2wNGrnsUOQFHOJ AcKMM?sms_ss=facebook#ixzz0lvtxQsew
</DIV> Maybe best athletic pass rusher. The kid Graham is in my opinion- The Best.

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 02:43 PM
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft/2010/introducing-sackseer

uhg....

YIKES!!!

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 02:43 PM
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage>Adam Carman (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=606484379) OK, Giants fans, here`s the deal: People BOOED the Phil Simms pick in 79, thought Eli wasn`t worth trading Philip Rivers for and thought we should trade up to take Heyward Bey instead of Hakeem Nicks. How about for now, at least, we assume the Giants`front office knows more about the situation than we do?</H6>


</P>


Who the **** wanted Heyward-Bey?? idk who Adam Carman is, but forget THAT guy! lol

Eli, I didn't really mind....at the time I was playing word association and thought it was a splendid idea....you can only assume what my feelings are now, on it =]</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 02:49 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">Adam Carman (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=606484379) OK, Giants fans, here`s the deal: People BOOED the Phil Simms pick in 79, thought Eli wasn`t worth trading Philip Rivers for and thought we should trade up to take Heyward Bey instead of Hakeem Nicks. How about for now, at least, we assume the Giants`front office knows more about the situation than we do?</h6>


</p>


Who the **** wanted Heyward-Bey?? idk who Adam Carman is, but forget THAT guy! lol

Eli, I didn't really mind....at the time I was playing word association and thought it was a splendid idea....you can only assume what my feelings are now, on it =]</p>
Some dude on my Facebook. I don't know him really, just thought it was funny.

patsrule666
04-23-2010, 02:55 PM
Looks like the only other person who liked Odrick as much as me was Mr. Parcells..[:@]

JPizzack
04-23-2010, 03:00 PM
Looks like the only other person who liked Odrick as much as me was Mr. Parcells..[:@]</P>


That Parcells guy....quite the character...stealin players and such....i hear Jerry Jones is a fan!</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 03:00 PM
Looks like the only other person who liked Odrick as much as me was Mr. Parcells..[:@]
LOL sorry. We will start calling you Lil Tuna

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 03:04 PM
wow we're about to be at 4k lol

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 03:09 PM
The kid Graham is in my opinion- The Best.
Certainly doesn't make me feel good that you think the best guy went to Philly [:|]

byron
04-23-2010, 03:22 PM
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft/2010/introducing-sackseer

uhg....
thanks for that I at least know where the freak **** comes from ....great he can back flip...I don't know man... I'm worried about this team plain and simple...that last game left me dismayed to say the least..I don't thinkanything in this draft isgoing to changethat felling...its going to take winning football.....I will wait and see if this was a great pick or not when its written down in history....bpa maybe.....but bpa and great players are two different things.....we need aMLB!!!! I'm out sorry

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 03:24 PM
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft/2010/introducing-sackseer

uhg....
thanks for that I at least know where the freak **** comes from ....great he can back flip...I don't know man... I'm worried about this team plain and simple...that last game left me dismayed to say the least..I don't thinkanything in this draft isgoing to changethat felling...its going to take winning football.....I will wait and see if this was a great pick or not when its written down in history....bpa maybe.....but bpa and great players are two different things.....we need aMLB!!!! I'm out sorry

haha stop apologizing and just let it all out

dude i was at that ****in disgrace of a performance, trust me i am down on us too...


Im not in love with this pick at all... we better do some damage tonite. Maybe we get some value 2nd rounders.

Uhg... i really am disgusted...

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 03:29 PM
what time does it kick off tonight?? and wasn't it first and second round on the first day of the draft before?

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 03:31 PM
The kid Graham is in my opinion- The Best.
Certainly doesn't make me feel good that you think the best guy went to Philly [:|]
you think Philly stole the guy we wanted? those *******s **** Philly

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 03:48 PM
The kid Graham is in my opinion- The Best.
Certainly doesn't make me feel good that you think the best guy went to Philly [:|]
you think Philly stole the guy we wanted? those *******s **** Philly

i think we would of took Graham if he was there

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 03:58 PM
@MikeReiss (http://twitter.com/MikeReiss)If
Pats want in, this is the round. RT: @MoveTheSticks (http://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks): We could see
several TE's go in this round... Gronkowski, Hernandez, ****son,
Graham

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 03:58 PM
not a big college ball kinda guy anymore but i was listening to the draft on the radio on the way home and there were a few draft lolzz by the hosts</P>


1 Jacksonville, the guys were lol'ing at picking a guy from the second round</P>


2 Dallas picking that wr, not so much the pick but apparently he was crying and they made reference to certain other crybaby "he's my quarterback" hahahaha</P>


3 Buffalo again not so much for picking CJ but more feeling sorry for having to play in Buffalo </P>


there was another one but i can't think what it was lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 04:16 PM
its still canada and canadians to me bandy

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 04:20 PM
<font color="#0000ff">"I'll tell you what the Giants need in this draft," LT said.</font>

<font color="#0000ff">"What's
that?" he was asked.</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">"Linebackers."</font></p>

Linebackers.
What was No. 56 supposed to say?</p>

Just as the biggest Giant
of them all was making his draft-night stand, the linebacker his old
team coveted, Alabama's <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25721">Rolando
McClain</a>, was taken off the board by Al Davis at No. 8.</p>

"I
like that kid," Taylor said of McClain. "Saw him on some clips. Big guy
who can run. He's a beast."</p>

"You can't play read and react and
win in this league," Taylor said. "Rod Rust came in with that read and
react [in 1992], and I've never in my life seen so many points scored on
us.</p>

"The Giants need to get back to attacking on defense.
Don't worry about what the offense is going to do and react to that.
Attack them and make them worry about what you're going to do."</p>"Maybe
the Giants should consider going to a 3-4," LT said. "Put their speed
guys on the outside, <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4514">Osi
[Umenyiora]</a> and <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9618">[Mathias]
Kiwanuka</a>, and turn them loose. That's where all your pressure on
the quarterback comes from anyway.""

When I first got here in '81," LT
said, "the Giants had a tradition of linebackers who hit you. That's
going back to the old days, Sam Huff and those guys. When the Giants
have been good, they've had those linebackers.</p>

"I was there
with Harry Carson and Brad Van Pelt and Brian Kelley, and then it was
Carl Banks and [Gary] Reasons and Pepper [Johnson]. That meant something
to me, to be a part of that linebacker history of the Giants. That
meant a lot to me."</p>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 04:21 PM
"I talked to [Tomlinson] a long time ago about that, when he was
playing really good," Taylor said. "I called him BLT -- Baby LT. If he
doesn't play well in New York, it's going to be tough. But if he does
play well, it's going to be great for him.</p>

"I'm fine with
him sharing the name. I guess the old-school guys know who the first LT
is."</p>


</p>

We will have to start calling him BLT2
</p>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 04:24 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0422/nfl_g_deion_lt_300.jpg

Still looks mean

patsrule666
04-23-2010, 04:36 PM
The kid Graham is in my opinion- The Best.
Certainly doesn't make me feel good that you think the best guy went to Philly [:|]
Those *****ers.......lol.</P>


Check your pm, will ya?</P>

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 04:44 PM
its still canada and canadians to me bandy
remind me i owe you a wedgie when ever we meet. k?

patsrule666
04-23-2010, 04:44 PM
@MikeReiss (http://twitter.com/MikeReiss)If Pats want in, this is the round. RT: @MoveTheSticks (http://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks): We could see several TE's go in this round... Gronkowski, Hernandez, ****son, Graham
Reiss is one of the very few i respect. I would be very surprised as well if we dont take a TE this weekend..

patsrule666
04-23-2010, 04:46 PM
its still canada and canadians to me bandy
remind me i owe you a wedgie when ever we meet. k? Then you would have to do something he dont like.......lol.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 04:48 PM
its still canada and canadians to me bandy
remind me i owe you a wedgie when ever we meet. k? Then you would have to do something he dont like.......lol.

lol as long as theres a reacharound

alrite im out fellas have a good weekend, hopfully giants dont blow it tonite

blah

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 04:59 PM
@MikeReiss (http://twitter.com/MikeReiss)If Pats want in, this is the round. RT: @MoveTheSticks (http://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks): We could see several TE's go in this round... Gronkowski, Hernandez, ****son, Graham
Reiss is one of the very few i respect. I would be very surprised as well if we dont take a TE this weekend..
Can't imagine how cool it would be to get drafted and catch passes from Brady. lol

Kase-1
04-23-2010, 05:07 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0422/nfl_g_deion_lt_300.jpg

Still looks mean
LOL, it looks like he's ready to put in some work....

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 05:26 PM
its still canada and canadians to me bandy
remind me i owe you a wedgie when ever we meet. k? Then you would have to do something he dont like.......lol.Good pointi may just have to step it up to an ATOMIC wedgie

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 05:33 PM
its still canada and canadians to me bandy
remind me i owe you a wedgie when ever we meet. k? Then you would have to do something he dont like.......lol.Good pointi may just have to step it up to an ATOMIC wedgie
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/6/26jun7-going-for-the-atomic-wedgie.jpg

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 05:36 PM
The NFL Draft returns to primetime tonight, beginning at 6 p.m., with
the second and third rounds. Here are the needs the Giants will aim to
address:</p>


MIDDLE LINEBACKER: You can’t fault the Giants for
missing out on Rolando McClain. He went way earlier than many expected
when the Raiders took him with the eighth pick. But you can fault the
Giants if they throw up their hands and fail to add a ‘backer before the
start of the season. It could happen as soon as tonight, perhaps with
Florida’s Brandon Spikes or Penn State’s Sean Lee in the second round.
Nebraska’s Phillip Dillard remains a possibility as well. Also,
Oakland’s selecting McClain could make Kirk Morrison available via
trade.</p>


OFFENSIVE LINE: Particularly the interior. The
Giants would like to replace LG Rich Seubert and C Shaun O’Hara in the
coming years, so they need to start finding players to groom. They have
high hopes for Guy Whimper (their fourth-round pick in 2006, who
switched to guard last season), but could look for another player in the
next two days. A shot in the dark: Wake Forest G Chris DeGeare.</p>


RUNNING BACK: They liked C.J. Spiller, who went to
the Bills at No. 9, so maybe they’d take a look at Mississippi’s Dexter
McCluster, who adds a pass-catching dimension like Spiller.</p>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 06:06 PM
Blonde country darlings Carrie Underwood, 27, and Taylor
Swift, 20, both appeared at the same concert in Vegas on
Monday.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/04/20/0420-whourather-credit.jpg<div id="TixyyLink" style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><font size="6" color="#0000ff">FOR PIZZ</font>
</div>

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 06:10 PM
Blonde country darlings Carrie Underwood, 27, and Taylor
Swift, 20, both appeared at the same concert in Vegas on
Monday.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/04/20/0420-whourather-credit.jpg<div id="TixyyLink" style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><font color="#0000ff" size="6">FOR PIZZ</font>
</div>see her right eye is higher then her left. i get dizzy looking at her

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 06:13 PM
dez her head is tilted..

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 06:16 PM
elis on fat mike talking about mcnabb and stuff

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 06:18 PM
dez her head is tilted..nah man. she looks awkward
http://www.bopandtigerbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/90895088.jpg

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 06:25 PM
dez her head is tilted..nah man. she looks awkward
http://www.bopandtigerbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/90895088.jpg
i thought you meant the blonder one, sorry.. uhh what is that in the background right side?!?! dude with woman hair or women with dude beard?

patsrule666
04-23-2010, 07:08 PM
Now THAT is what im talkin about baby.

Gronko...sweet pick, sweeeeeet pick.
Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhh.

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 07:47 PM
I like the last name. Cunningham

You like the pick Pats? The TE is gonna be a player

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 08:54 PM
****in giants</P>

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 09:15 PM
****in giants</P>not happy with draft picks i pressume?

dezzzR
04-23-2010, 09:21 PM
****in giants</p>at least were getting rid of michael johnson. were going to make a move for a linebacker, its gonna happen.......

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:29 PM
****in giants</P>


not happy with draft picks i pressume?</P>


</P>


we better be bringing in morrison</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:31 PM
****in giants</P>


at least were getting rid of michael johnson. were going to make a move for a linebacker, its gonna happen.......
</P>


</P>


yea i actually really liked that pick</P>

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 09:33 PM
****in giants</P>


not happy with draft picks i pressume?</P>


*</P>


we better be bringing in morrison</P>maybe we shoulda got Rey M last year

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 09:37 PM
****in giants</P>


not happy with draft picks i pressume?</P>


</P>


we better be bringing in morrison</P>


maybe we shoulda got Rey M last year</P>


</P>


dont even get me started</P>

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 09:45 PM
****in giants</P>


not happy with draft picks i pressume?</P>


*</P>


we better be bringing in morrison</P>


maybe we shoulda got Rey M last year</P>


*</P>


dont even get me started</P>i wont cuz that ll get me started too...

thegreatone
04-23-2010, 09:52 PM
WHEW! i finally read through all 3903 pages and let me just say.....



























the title of this thread is misleading.

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 09:52 PM
how much better would Morrison make you feel seeing how he is a oakland reject..

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 09:54 PM
WHEW! i finally read through all 3903 pages and let me just say.....the title of this thread is misleading.
lol its a work in progress

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 09:58 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">Giants Dir. of College Scouting Marc Ross says team has gone for VALUE picks rather than NEED to this point</h6>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:12 PM
WHEW! i finally read through all 3903 pages and let me just say.....



























the title of this thread is misleading.
</P>


</P>


and yet u still read every page lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:13 PM
how much better would Morrison make you feel seeing how he is a oakland reject..</P>


</P>


tons</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:15 PM
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage>Giants Dir. of College Scouting Marc Ross says team has gone for VALUE picks rather than NEED to this point</H6>


</P>


</P>


i dont think a project pick at 15 would be considerd a value pick</P>

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:16 PM
I like Kirk Morrison

Solid player

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 10:29 PM
I like Kirk Morrison

Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago

how bout Pierce 1 year ago

Chaosist
04-23-2010, 10:30 PM
Are there sane people in here? The chicken littles in TAGF are starting to make me twitch.</P>


On that note... my brief thoughts through 3 rounds is... Not quite what I was expecting, but I'll wait and see how it all plays out on the field before rushing to judgement.</P>


On another note, my Sam Adams is rather tasty after a 12 hour shift in a hot *** kitchen. </P>


Cheers! I hope everyone is enjoying their Friday evening.</P>

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:34 PM
I like Kirk Morrison

Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago

how bout Pierce 1 year ago

He is better.

I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play.

He is all over the field.

And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler.

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 10:36 PM
Are there sane people in here? The chicken littles in TAGF are starting to make me twitch.</P>


On that note... my brief thoughts through 3 rounds is... Not quite what I was expecting, but I'll wait and see how it all plays out on the field before rushing to judgement.</P>


On another note, my Sam Adams is rather tasty after a 12 hour shift in a hot *** kitchen. </P>


Cheers! I hope everyone is enjoying their Friday evening.</P>welcome.. there is a cover charge though.. lol

byron
04-23-2010, 10:37 PM
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage>Giants Dir. of College Scouting Marc Ross says team has gone for VALUE picks rather than NEED to this point</H6> I guessits good news that they know that.... ;)........took everything I had to put that wink in there... I'd like to think we go for need the rest of the way

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 10:38 PM
I like Kirk Morrison

Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago

how bout Pierce 1 year ago

He is better.

I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play.

He is all over the field.

And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler.very interesting.. any thoughts to why Oak would like to move him

byron
04-23-2010, 10:41 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard workingsmart guy who gives his all is what came away with

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:42 PM
I like Kirk Morrison

Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago

how bout Pierce 1 year ago

He is better.

I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play.

He is all over the field.

And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler.very interesting.. any thoughts to why Oak would like to move him

Honestly, no idea

He is only 28 years old. he just had another 100+ tackle season( His 5th straight)

I am guessing the Raiders are just looking in another direction.

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:42 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard working*smart guy who gives his all is what came away with

all good things.

MattMeyerBud
04-23-2010, 10:42 PM
Are there sane people in here? The chicken littles in TAGF are starting to make me twitch.</P>


On that note... my brief thoughts through 3 rounds is... Not quite what I was expecting, but I'll wait and see how it all plays out on the field before rushing to judgement.</P>


On another note, my Sam Adams is rather tasty after a 12 hour shift in a hot *** kitchen. </P>


Cheers! I hope everyone is enjoying their Friday evening.</P>


</P>


</P>


summer ale is out... ohhhhhhhh yeaaaaa</P>

byron
04-23-2010, 10:46 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup.</DD>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 10:47 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard working*smart guy who gives his all is what came away withheh B, whats shakin.. love the lunch box kinda guys.. confusing why Oak ould trade him.. but than again its Oakland lol

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:48 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup.</DD>

Make the move Jerry Reese

He is there for the taking

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 10:50 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup.</DD>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">*</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">*</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">*</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">*</P>now i am confused.. Oakland would cut a player rather than pay him... has hell froze over

byron
04-23-2010, 10:53 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard workingsmart guy who gives his all is what came away withheh B, whats shakin.. love the lunch box kinda guys.. confusing why Oak ould trade him.. but than again its Oakland lol he is a good ball player... you know Oak...I read some think he has reached his full potential he is as good as he's going to be you know what I mean...right nowI'm so ****ed up can't think strait..I think I like himthrough

byron
04-23-2010, 10:55 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along</DD>

ny06
04-23-2010, 10:58 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along</DD>

cant hurt

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 11:01 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard working*smart guy who gives his all is what came away withheh B, whats shakin.. love the lunch box kinda guys.. confusing why Oak ould trade him.. but than again its Oakland lol he is a good ball player... you know Oak...I read some think he has reached his full potential he is as good as he's going to be you know what I mean...right now*I'm so ****ed up can't think strait..*I think I like him*throughthe stats look good.. for sure.. wheres Kase he had a dude that he thought would make a good mlb for us..

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 11:08 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along cant hurt
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">How many mid level LB's do we need?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We are already loaded with those.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We need to look O line. Maybe Hernandez at TE.</DD>

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:09 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along cant hurt
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">How many mid level LB's do we need?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We are already loaded with those.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We need to look O line.* Maybe Hernandez at TE.</DD>

You saying Morrison is a mid level linebacker?

patsrule666
04-23-2010, 11:11 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup.</DD>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">*</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">*</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">*</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">*</P> There is something fishey about this. Why would they not start him while Mclain learns the ropes this year? He's only on the books for 2.5? The guy is as solid as they come protecting anything around the line. Not a real great cover guy, but a very solid tackler.

He has to be hurt or something.

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 11:13 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along cant hurt
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">How many mid level LB's do we need?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We are already loaded with those.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We need to look O line. Maybe Hernandez at TE. You saying Morrison is a mid level linebacker?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm talking about the guys on our roster. If we get Morrison for a 4th or 5th, that would be a good deal for us.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Maybe the FO likes the guys we have. I've heard they didn't like any of the inside LB's in this draft except for McClain.</DD>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 11:14 PM
Your teams FO is ****ing brilliant. There might not be a better run organization in all of sports. 2 1st's and 2 2nd's for next years draft already. lol Congrats, I already know you love all your picks. Spikes and Mayo could be special if he reaches his potential.

Kase-1
04-23-2010, 11:14 PM
Well I guess this years theme at the draft is HUGE Potential &amp; TONS of Inexperience...... Bruce Campbell in the 3rd anyone????? That guys if F'n TREMENDOUS!!!!

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:15 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along cant hurt
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">How many mid level LB's do we need?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We are already loaded with those.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We need to look O line.* Maybe Hernandez at TE. You saying Morrison is a mid level linebacker?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm talking about the guys on our roster.* If we get Morrison for a 4th or 5th, that would be a good deal for us.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Maybe the FO likes the guys we have.* I've heard they didn't like any of the inside LB's in this draft except for McClain.</DD>

oh, ok

I think it would be a no brainer to get Morrison.

It is almost like the Raiders are giving him away.

Kase-1
04-23-2010, 11:21 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard workingsmart guy who gives his all is what came away withheh B, whats shakin.. love the lunch box kinda guys.. confusing why Oak ould trade him.. but than again its Oakland lol he is a good ball player... you know Oak...I read some think he has reached his full potential he is as good as he's going to be you know what I mean...right nowI'm so ****ed up can't think strait..I think I like himthroughthe stats look good.. for sure.. wheres Kase he had a dude that he thought would make a good mlb for us..That would be D'Qwell Jackson (http://www.nfl.com/players/d%27qwelljackson/careerstats?id=JAC137677)from Cleveland. He may be a 3-4 ILB but I believe he translate to a 4-3 MLB. He's only 26 and has been putting in HEAVY work since he joined the league in 06 when he posted 93 tackles in his rookie season

Morehead State
04-23-2010, 11:21 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along cant hurt
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">How many mid level LB's do we need?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We are already loaded with those.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We need to look O line. Maybe Hernandez at TE. You saying Morrison is a mid level linebacker?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm talking about the guys on our roster. If we get Morrison for a 4th or 5th, that would be a good deal for us.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Maybe the FO likes the guys we have. I've heard they didn't like any of the inside LB's in this draft except for McClain. oh, ok I think it would be a no brainer to get Morrison. It is almost like the Raiders are giving him away.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">I don't know. It feels like it won't happen.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Maybe JR likes Goff or even GWilk at MLB this season.</DD>

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:22 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along cant hurt
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">How many mid level LB's do we need?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We are already loaded with those.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We need to look O line.* Maybe Hernandez at TE. You saying Morrison is a mid level linebacker?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm talking about the guys on our roster.* If we get Morrison for a 4th or 5th, that would be a good deal for us.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Maybe the FO likes the guys we have.* I've heard they didn't like any of the inside LB's in this draft except for McClain. oh, ok I think it would be a no brainer to get Morrison. It is almost like the Raiders are giving him away.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">I don't know.* It feels like it won't happen.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Maybe JR likes Goff or even GWilk at MLB this season.</DD>

time will tell

ny06
04-23-2010, 11:22 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard working*smart guy who gives his all is what came away withheh B, whats shakin.. love the lunch box kinda guys.. confusing why Oak ould trade him.. but than again its Oakland lol he is a good ball player... you know Oak...I read some think he has reached his full potential he is as good as he's going to be you know what I mean...right now*I'm so ****ed up can't think strait..*I think I like him*throughthe stats look good.. for sure.. wheres Kase he had a dude that he thought would make a good mlb for us..That would be D'Qwell Jackson (http://www.nfl.com/players/d%27qwelljackson/careerstats?id=JAC137677)from Cleveland.* He may be a 3-4 ILB but I believe he translate to a 4-3 MLB.* He's only 26 and has been putting in HEAVY work since he joined the league in 06 when he posted 93 tackles in his rookie season


good player

bandwgn86
04-23-2010, 11:23 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard working*smart guy who gives his all is what came away withheh B, whats shakin.. love the lunch box kinda guys.. confusing why Oak ould trade him.. but than again its Oakland lol he is a good ball player... you know Oak...I read some think he has reached his full potential he is as good as he's going to be you know what I mean...right now*I'm so ****ed up can't think strait..*I think I like him*throughthe stats look good.. for sure.. wheres Kase he had a dude that he thought would make a good mlb for us..That would be D'Qwell Jackson (http://www.nfl.com/players/d%27qwelljackson/careerstats?id=JAC137677)from Cleveland.* He may be a 3-4 ILB but I believe he translate to a 4-3 MLB.* He's only 26 and has been putting in HEAVY work since he joined the league in 06 when he posted 93 tackles in his rookie season
thats his name lets get him

patsrule666
04-23-2010, 11:23 PM
Your teams FO is ****ing brilliant. There might not be a better run organization in all of sports. 2 1st's and 2 2nd's for next years draft already. lol Congrats, I already know you love all your picks. Spikes and Mayo could be special if he reaches his potential.
Im still spankin it right now..lol.

I'm actually a bit anxious to see what this kid Pierre will do with you guys this year. Imagine if Spags were still around to coach him up? The guy is a athletic freak of nature...

I would think you guys would be doing something in the LBer department.

Kase-1
04-23-2010, 11:28 PM
I like Kirk Morrison Solid playerkinda a gauge question.. better or worse than Pierce 2 years ago how bout Pierce 1 year ago He is better. I can't say I have seen a lot of Morrison, but the few games that I have seen him play. He is all over the field. And the thing he does which is a lost art in this league. He is a good tackler. I read up on him a little he a hard workingsmart guy who gives his all is what came away withheh B, whats shakin.. love the lunch box kinda guys.. confusing why Oak ould trade him.. but than again its Oakland lol he is a good ball player... you know Oak...I read some think he has reached his full potential he is as good as he's going to be you know what I mean...right nowI'm so ****ed up can't think strait..I think I like himthroughthe stats look good.. for sure.. wheres Kase he had a dude that he thought would make a good mlb for us..That would be D'Qwell Jackson (http://www.nfl.com/players/d%27qwelljackson/careerstats?id=JAC137677)from Cleveland. He may be a 3-4 ILB but I believe he translate to a 4-3 MLB. He's only 26 and has been putting in HEAVY work since he joined the league in 06 when he posted 93 tackles in his rookie season
thats his name lets get himI feel the same way about him as I did about Boley last season..... Alright maybe not THAT big of a fan (hell, I was leading the Boley Bandwagon) but he's hands down better than anyone we can get this late in the draft or anyone cept for McClain for that matter or anyone that's actually on our depth chart as of now

Damnit JReese, I get what you're doing this year in the draft, but get DQ and we'll be set at defensive starters... Haden in the 1st got me a lil nervous, maybe Holmgreen is building a defense around DQ, Shaun Rodgers and Eric Wright

Chaosist
04-23-2010, 11:30 PM
Are there sane people in here? The chicken littles in TAGF are starting to make me twitch.</P>


On that note... my brief thoughts through 3 rounds is... Not quite what I was expecting, but I'll wait and see how it all plays out on the field before rushing to judgement.</P>


On another note, my Sam Adams is rather tasty after a 12 hour shift in a hot *** kitchen. </P>


Cheers! I hope everyone is enjoying their Friday evening.</P>


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summer ale is out... ohhhhhhhh yeaaaaa</P>


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Summer Ale isn't too bad, a little too citrusy for my taste. Good for after mowing the lawn, though.</P>

byron
04-23-2010, 11:31 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup.
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P> There is something fishey about this. Why would they not start him while Mclain learns the ropes this year? He's only on the books for 2.5? The guy is as solid as they come protecting anything around the line. Not a real great cover guy, but a very solid tackler. He has to be hurt or something. you may right Pats I just don't know at this point and MH is right we should do something for the oline</DD>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 11:31 PM
Your teams FO is ****ing brilliant. There might not be a better run organization in all of sports. 2 1st's and 2 2nd's for next years draft already. lol Congrats, I already know you love all your picks. Spikes and Mayo could be special if he reaches his potential.
Im still spankin it right now..lol.

I'm actually a bit anxious to see what this kid Pierre will do with you guys this year. Imagine if Spags were still around to coach him up? The guy is a athletic freak of nature...

I would think you guys would be doing something in the LBer department.
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/optimus-prime-masturbation.thumbnail.jpg

PM

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 11:32 PM
The OT from Maryland would have been nice. Bruce Campbell, FEAR THE TURTLE!

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/70495/000_0414-1-2.jpg

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 11:34 PM
KASE, I am on board 100% DQ was a turtle

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper873/stills/43254c9fc6f12-40-1.jpg

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 11:35 PM
How do you feel about the Safety and what that says for KP?

Did you have any eyes on that DT?

Chaosist
04-23-2010, 11:36 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along cant hurt
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">How many mid level LB's do we need?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We are already loaded with those.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We need to look O line. Maybe Hernandez at TE. You saying Morrison is a mid level linebacker?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm talking about the guys on our roster. If we get Morrison for a 4th or 5th, that would be a good deal for us.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Maybe the FO likes the guys we have. I've heard they didn't like any of the inside LB's in this draft except for McClain. oh, ok I think it would be a no brainer to get Morrison. It is almost like the Raiders are giving him away.</DD>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">I think we should offer up Rocky and a 6 or 7 for Morrison, and draft a guy next year and (depending on how strong a prospect) have him sit behind Morrison for a year.</P>

bigblue4417
04-23-2010, 11:40 PM
He had 133 tackles last year. Not sure if that is a good thing or bad. lol

Kase-1
04-23-2010, 11:43 PM
KASE, I am on board 100% DQ was a turtle

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper873/stills/43254c9fc6f12-40-1.jpg
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...Am I not turtle enough for the Turtle Club

byron
04-23-2010, 11:47 PM
one tidbit</P>
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Raiders coach Tom Cable said he expects first-round draft pick Rolando McClain (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1273352) to be an immediate starter at MLB, a spot Kirk Morrison (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417305) has manned for five years, leading the team in tackles each season. "It gives us depth," Cable said. But the Raiders might decide to trade or cut Morrison rather than pay him $2.51 million to be a backup. Make the move Jerry Reese He is there for the taking i think so too maybe pick up a young guy round 4 he can help bring along cant hurt
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">How many mid level LB's do we need?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We are already loaded with those.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">We need to look O line. Maybe Hernandez at TE. You saying Morrison is a mid level linebacker?
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm talking about the guys on our roster. If we get Morrison for a 4th or 5th, that would be a good deal for us.
<DD style="MARGIN: 0px">Maybe the FO likes the guys we have. I've heard they didn't like any of the inside LB's in this draft except for McClain. oh, ok I think it would be a no brainer to get Morrison. It is almost like the Raiders are giving him away.
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px">I think we should offer up Rocky and a 6 or 7 for Morrison, and draft a guy next year and (depending on how strong a prospect) have him sit behind Morrison for a year.</P> sounds good here to me as long as Morrison has no problems</DD>

Kase-1
04-23-2010, 11:49 PM
How do you feel about the Safety and what that says for KP?

Did you have any eyes on that DT?
Linval Joseph (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/DT/Linval-Joseph.php)

<span class="bioswn">Strengths:</span>

Excellent size --- Long arms and big hands --- Very athletic ---
Explosive with a burst --- Quick --- Fantastic strength and power ---
Stout at the point of attack -- Shows the ability to penetrate and make
plays behind the line --- Superb Tackler --- Hard Worker --- Leader
--- Major Upside.



<span class="bioswn">Weaknesses:</span>

Had some issues with conditioning and stamina --- Not an elite
pass rusher --- Doesn't always use proper leverage --- Must use his
hands better --- Range is limited --- Isn't nasty and might lack a
killer instinct.



<span class="bioswn">Notes:</span>

Was a 2½-year starter for the Pirates --- Nickname is "June" ---
Named 1st Team All-Conference USA in 2009 --- Born in St. Croix, U.S.
Virgin Islands --- Captured the Florida State Weightlifting Championship
with a 415-pound bench press and a 320-pound clean jerk as a junior in
high school --- Weighed 371 pounds at one point --- Underwent back
surgery between the 2007 and 2008 seasons --- Was not expected to enter
the 2010 NFL Draft as a junior but opted to make the leap when Head
Coach Skip Holtz left for South Florida --- Could project to either
defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme or defensive end in a 3-4 front --- An
extremely intriguing prospect with a rare blend of size, brute strength
and athleticism --- A bit raw technically but still has a world of
potential.

<table width="75%" align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1&quot;"><tbody><tr style="font-weight: bold;" align="right"><td align="center">Year</td>
<td align="center">GP</td>
<td align="center">TKL</td>
<td align="center">TFL</td>
<td align="center">SACK</td>
</tr>

<tr align="right">
<td align="center">2007</td>
<td align="center">13</td>
<td align="center">40</td>
<td align="center">8.5</td>
<td align="center">1.0</td>
</tr>

<tr align="right">
<td align="center">2008</td>
<td align="center">14</td>
<td align="center">43</td>
<td align="center">8.0</td>
<td align="center">2.5</td>
</tr>

<tr align="right">
<td align="center">2009</td>
<td align="center">14</td>
<td align="center">60</td>
<td align="center">13.0</td>
<td align="center">3.0</td>
</tr>

<tr style="font-weight: bold;" align="right">
<td align="center">Totals</td>
<td align="center">41</td>
<td align="center">143</td>
<td align="center">29.5</td>
<td align="center">6.5</td></tr></tbody></table>


Chad Jones (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/S/Chad-Jones.php)

<span class="bioswn">Strengths:</span>

Excellent height and bulk --- Outstanding athleticism ---
Explosive with good speed and a burst --- Agile with terrific body
control --- Fantastic hands and ball skills --- Nice leaping ability ---
Great range and closes in a hurry --- Effective in-the-box and in
coverage --- Aggressive --- Can deliver the big hit --- Can contribute
on special teams --- Major upside.



<span class="bioswn">Weaknesses:</span>

Raw with poor technique --- Marginal instincts and awareness ---
Often slow to read and react --- Doesn't play to timed speed --- Is not
always as physical as he should be --- Will miss some tackles ---
Susceptible to fakes and playaction --- Devotion to the gridiron has
been questioned.



<span class="bioswn">Notes:</span>

Was a 1½ year starter for the Bayou Bengals --- Brother, Rahim
Alem, also played for L.S.U. --- Father, Al, played football for Tulane
and was as a team captain for the Green Wave in 1978 --- Named 2nd Team
All-SEC in 2009 --- Was also a standout relief pitcher / outfielder for
the Tiger baseball team --- Is one of only two players in college
history to claim a BCS national title and a baseball national title ---
Selected in the 13th Round of the 2007 Major League Baseball Draft by
the Houston Astros and likely would have been chosen even earlier in
2010 had he been willing to give up football --- Averaged 10.9 yards
with 1 touchdown on 31 punt returns and 17.1 yards with 0 touchdowns on 7
kick returns during his college career and also excelled on the
coverage teams --- Many wonder if football is his true love or if he is
simply trying to capitalize on a breakout junior campaign and strike
while the iron is hot --- A better athlete than football player at this
point --- Extremely talented prospect with impressive triangle numbers
who could really blossom once he devotes his full, undivided attention
to a single sport.

<table width="75%" align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1&quot;"><tbody><tr style="font-weight: bold;" align="right"><td align="center">Year</td>
<td align="center">GP</td>
<td align="center">TKL</td>
<td align="center">PBU</td>
<td align="center">INT</td>
<td align="center">YDS</td>
</tr>

<tr align="right">
<td align="center">2007</td>
<td align="center">14</td>
<td align="center">34</td>
<td align="center">4</td>
<td align="center">1</td>
<td align="center">0</td>
</tr>

<tr align="right">
<td align="center">2008</td>
<td align="center">13</td>
<td align="center">50</td>
<td align="center">6</td>
<td align="center">1</td>
<td align="center">10</td>
</tr>

<tr align="right">
<td align="center">2009</td>
<td align="center">13</td>
<td align="center">74</td>
<td align="center">6</td>
<td align="center">3</td>
<td align="center">71</td>
</tr>

<tr style="font-weight: bold;" align="right">
<td align="center">Totals</td>
<td align="center">40</td>
<td align="center">158</td>
<td align="center">16</td>
<td align="center">5</td>
<td align="center">81</td></tr></tbody></table>

thegreatone
04-24-2010, 08:00 AM
WHEW! i finally read through all 3903 pages and let me just say.....



























the title of this thread is misleading.
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</p>


and yet u still read every page lol</p>
of course i did. how would i know its the greatest thread ever if i quit halfway? kept thinking "it'll turn around next page"....but it never did [:P]

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 11:43 AM
HOOWWWWWWW DARE YOOOOUUU!!!!!</P>


lol</P>

dezzzR
04-24-2010, 11:48 AM
anyone see tex take out the angels catcher last night? its was pretty epic

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 11:49 AM
anyone see tex take out the angels catcher last night? its was pretty epic
</P>


lmao....completely unnecessary, but amusing nonetheless!! haha</P>

Joe Morrison
04-24-2010, 11:54 AM
The best move the GMEN have made up to now is getting that punter from Australia who will be punting out of our endzone all year.

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 11:59 AM
The best move the GMEN have made up to now is getting that punter from Australia who will be punting out of our endzone all year.</P>


lmao...</P>


I think that DT was a terrible pick....and the safety pick so early in the draft..... i hurt FOR KP....</P>


not feelin the draft so far....unless some good moves are made, i dont get it...</P>

dezzzR
04-24-2010, 12:00 PM
anyone see tex take out the angels catcher last night? its was pretty epic
</p>


lmao....completely unnecessary, but amusing nonetheless!! haha</p>hahaha yea but i can kinda see why he did it. he was already in full motion to lay some serious wood. if he tried to turn back outside he could of hurt himself.

Joe Morrison
04-24-2010, 12:02 PM
The best move the GMEN have made up to now is getting that punter from Australia who will be punting out of our endzone all year.</P>


lmao...</P>


I think that DT was a terrible pick....and the safety pick so early in the draft..... i hurt FOR KP....</P>


not feelin the draft so far....unless some good moves are made, i dont get it...</P>
Hopefully they have a deal in the works after the draft, right now don't know what's going on.

byron
04-24-2010, 12:04 PM
The best move the GMEN have made up to now is getting that punter from Australia who will be punting out of our endzone all year. lol... they say he has to be carefull not to kick the air out of the football

dezzzR
04-24-2010, 12:06 PM
The best move the GMEN have made up to now is getting that punter from Australia who will be punting out of our endzone all year.</p>


lmao...</p>


I think that DT was a terrible pick....and the safety pick so early in the draft..... i hurt FOR KP....</p>


not feelin the draft so far....unless some good moves are made, i dont get it...</p>i think were doing alright man. we needed a dt pizz, we let robbins go. as i was telling matt, kp isnt going to be ready. so reese got a cover safety that can hit. and ill put money down that we get a mlb. let reese do his thang

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 12:06 PM
anyone see tex take out the angels catcher last night? its was pretty epic
</P>


lmao....completely unnecessary, but amusing nonetheless!! haha</P>


hahaha yea but i can kinda see why he did it. he was already in full motion to lay some serious wood. if he tried to turn back outside he could of hurt himself.
</P>


oh yea...im not saying that either...
Im just saying he coulda got the same result with a slide, not that tex is a graceful slider or anything...but morris wasnt really even covering the plate! haha</P>

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 12:10 PM
The best move the GMEN have made up to now is getting that punter from Australia who will be punting out of our endzone all year.</P>


lmao...</P>


I think that DT was a terrible pick....and the safety pick so early in the draft..... i hurt FOR KP....</P>


not feelin the draft so far....unless some good moves are made, i dont get it...</P>


i think were doing alright man. we needed a dt pizz, we let robbins go. as i was telling matt, kp isnt going to be ready. so reese got a cover safety that can hit. and ill put money down that we get a mlb. let reese do his thang
</P>


yea i know we needed one, but im not really impressed by the guy.
I thought we had a good draft last year...we didnt even use barely any of the kids we drafted much.</P>


Maybe i'm just worried because we were so injured last season...but this season we are looking healthier(minus KP) and its just that feeling carrying it over. i didnt feel this way till the draft started lol</P>

byron
04-24-2010, 01:05 PM
The best move the GMEN have made up to now is getting that punter from Australia who will be punting out of our endzone all year.</P>


lmao...</P>


I think that DT was a terrible pick....and the safety pick so early in the draft..... i hurt FOR KP....</P>


not feelin the draft so far....unless some good moves are made, i dont get it...</P>


i think were doing alright man. we needed a dt pizz, we let robbins go. as i was telling matt, kp isnt going to be ready. so reese got a cover safety that can hit. and ill put money down that we get a mlb. let reese do his thang
</P>


yea i know we needed one, but im not really impressed by the guy.
I thought we had a good draft last year...we didnt even use barely any of the kids we drafted much.</P>


Maybe i'm just worried because we were so injured last season...but this season we are looking healthier(minus KP) and its just that feeling carrying it over. i didnt feel this way till the draft started lol</P>


I was thinking the same thingJP... after watching our D play last and that final game left me withsome form of ...ptsd...so I don't thinkthis or any draft was going to fix that ...Its going to take some football... good defensive giants football...before I feel better /have confidence in our team defensively again...new DC new players, healty players...we will be better....I hope ;)</P>

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 01:23 PM
The best move the GMEN have made up to now is getting that punter from Australia who will be punting out of our endzone all year.</P>


lmao...</P>


I think that DT was a terrible pick....and the safety pick so early in the draft..... i hurt FOR KP....</P>


not feelin the draft so far....unless some good moves are made, i dont get it...</P>


i think were doing alright man. we needed a dt pizz, we let robbins go. as i was telling matt, kp isnt going to be ready. so reese got a cover safety that can hit. and ill put money down that we get a mlb. let reese do his thang
</P>


yea i know we needed one, but im not really impressed by the guy.
I thought we had a good draft last year...we didnt even use barely any of the kids we drafted much.</P>


Maybe i'm just worried because we were so injured last season...but this season we are looking healthier(minus KP) and its just that feeling carrying it over. i didnt feel this way till the draft started lol</P>


I was thinking the same thingJP... after watching our D play last and that final game left me withsome form of ...ptsd...so I don't thinkthis or any draft was going to fix that ...Its going to take some football... good defensive giants football...before I feel better /have confidence in our team defensively again...new DC new players, healty players...we will be better....I hope ;)</P>


</P>


Amen.</P>


It's just a state of mind....I'll get rid of it ;)</P>

bigblue4417
04-24-2010, 01:27 PM
i hurt FOR KP....



</p>
[:(]

byron
04-24-2010, 01:36 PM
i hurt FOR KP....



</P>
[:(]
yeah...the kid wants to play if its possible I think they give him a shot

dezzzR
04-24-2010, 01:40 PM
i hurt FOR KP....



</p>
[:(]
me too. although with an injury like this i think its better off not rushing him back.

bigblue4417
04-24-2010, 01:42 PM
<h2 class="title" property="dc:title"><font size="3">Kenny Smith: 'In three years, Durant will be the best player in basketball' (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Smith-In-three-years-Durant-will-be-the-best-?urn=nba,236321)</font></h2>

dezzzR
04-24-2010, 01:42 PM
i hurt FOR KP....



</p>
[:(]
yeah...the kid wants to play if its possible I think they give him a shotherd were running a 3 safety package next year.once hes healthy well have kp jones and rolle rocking people. it will be worth the wait.

ny06
04-24-2010, 01:46 PM
<h2 class="title" property="dc:title"><font size="3">Kenny Smith: 'In three years, Durant will be the best player in basketball' (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Smith-In-three-years-Durant-will-be-the-best-?urn=nba,236321)</font></h2>

No way

Durant is a beast. But as long as Lebron & Kobe, Wade are in the league he will not be the best.

Let us not forget Carmelo Anthony, Deron Williams, Chris Paul. Just to name a few

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
i hurt FOR KP....



</P>



[:(]
yeah...the kid wants to play if its possible I think they give him a shotherd were running a 3 safety package next year.once hes healthy well have kp jones and rolle rocking people. it will be worth the wait.
</P>


really? like...taking the NB out of the equation? oooh id like to see this!</P>

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 01:56 PM
<H2 class=title property="dc:title"><FONT size=3>Kenny Smith: 'In three years, Durant will be the best player in basketball' (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Smith-In-three-years-Durant-will-be-the-best-?urn=nba,236321)</FONT></H2>


No way Durant is a beast. But as long as Lebron &amp; Kobe, Wade are in the league he will not be the best. Let us not forget Carmelo Anthony, Deron Williams, Chris Paul. Just to name a few</P>


You'll be able to put him in that Kobe Lebron list I think....
The other guys, while good...I'm not sure you can put them on that level. Specifically CP3 and Derron...PGs it's hard to make that argument unless you play on an absolutely terrible team, and need your PG to score whenever he touches the ball(eg. Iverson in the late 90s/early decade).
CP3 IS THE TRUTH THOUGH...when healthy ;) love that guy!</P>

ny06
04-24-2010, 01:57 PM
<H2 class=title property="dc:title"><FONT size=3>Kenny Smith: 'In three years, Durant will be the best player in basketball' (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Smith-In-three-years-Durant-will-be-the-best-?urn=nba,236321)</FONT></H2>


No way Durant is a beast. But as long as Lebron & Kobe, Wade are in the league he will not be the best. Let us not forget Carmelo Anthony, Deron Williams, Chris Paul. Just to name a few</P>


You'll be able to put him in that Kobe Lebron list I think....
The other guys, while good...I'm not sure you can put them on that level. Specifically CP3 and Derron...PGs it's hard to make that argument unless you play on an absolutely terrible team, and need your PG to score whenever he touches the ball(eg. Iverson in the late 90s/early decade).
CP3 IS THE TRUTH THOUGH...when healthy ;)* love that guy!</P>

agreed

dezzzR
04-24-2010, 01:57 PM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/alaska-dog-buddy-honored-for-leading-troopers-to-fire/19452781

hahaha awesome.

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 01:58 PM
When I think about KP, I get really sad...like this: =((((((</P>


i know it IS what they are doing already, but just condition the kid...let him work out what he needs, work off the rust, and i pray to god he's at least at 80% come the season. He's a difference maker, and it was very apparent as soon as we all the saw the guy. He's my Gmen man-crush. hahaha</P>

dezzzR
04-24-2010, 02:02 PM
i hurt FOR KP....



</p>



[:(]
yeah...the kid wants to play if its possible I think they give him a shotherd were running a 3 safety package next year.once hes healthy well have kp jones and rolle rocking people. it will be worth the wait.
</p>


really? like...taking the NB out of the equation? oooh id like to see this!</p>
3 safetys

3 Cbs

1 LB

4 Dline

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 02:03 PM
lol....some girl I work with comes into my office and was like "Justin! do you want to sign Keegan's birthday card?!"
So I kinda sat there a second....."yea! sure..."

I write happy birthday!! and sign my name...

She leaves...</P>


I stare at my monitor.......

"who the **** is Keegan????" of course I only thought that...didnt say it =P</P>

dezzzR
04-24-2010, 02:05 PM
When I think about KP, I get really sad...like this: =((((((</p>


i know it IS what they are doing already, but just condition the kid...let him work out what he needs, work off the rust, and i pray to god he's at least at 80% come the season. He's a difference maker, and it was very apparent as soon as we all the saw the guy. He's my Gmen man-crush. hahaha</p>yea im on his d too. i dont think he should play until hes 100%. hes young. dont push him. its a serious condition for someone in his 20s

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 02:06 PM
i hurt FOR KP....



</P>



[:(]
yeah...the kid wants to play if its possible I think they give him a shotherd were running a 3 safety package next year.once hes healthy well have kp jones and rolle rocking people. it will be worth the wait.
</P>


really? like...taking the NB out of the equation? oooh id like to see this!</P>



3 safetys
3 Cbs
1 LB
4 Dline</P>


haha...my buddy the skins fan, the other day says to me "hey man...safety is the new LB!!" </P>


haha this actually seems really cool, consdiering our ****ty LBs, andassuming the placement is similar.

is this a zone defense??</P>

JPizzack
04-24-2010, 02:06 PM
whoops....double post.</P>

bigblue4417
04-24-2010, 08:27 PM
Belanger says Saturday he "felt my teeth shatter, right away," when Canadiens defenseman Marc-Andre Bergeron (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=1764)'s
stick hit him in the mouth in the first period of Montreal's 2-1
victory at Washington in Game 5 of their playoff series Friday night.</p>

Belanger
needed some serious dental work at the arena, getting exposed tooth
roots trimmed -- then returned to the ice midway through the third
period.</p>

Explains Belanger: "I knew I was in trouble, but what are you going to do? It's the playoffs."</p>


</p>

Any soccer player would do this to, what's the big deal?
</p>

bandwgn86
04-24-2010, 09:13 PM
Belanger says Saturday he "felt my teeth shatter, right away," when Canadiens defenseman Marc-Andre Bergeron (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=1764)'s
stick hit him in the mouth in the first period of Montreal's 2-1
victory at Washington in Game 5 of their playoff series Friday night.</p>

Belanger
needed some serious dental work at the arena, getting exposed tooth
roots trimmed -- then returned to the ice midway through the third
period.</p>

Explains Belanger: "I knew I was in trouble, but what are you going to do? It's the playoffs."</p>


</p>

Any soccer player would do this to, what's the big deal?
</p>lol... he actually pulled his own tooth out on the bench..

Kase-1
04-25-2010, 03:59 AM
Belanger says Saturday he "felt my teeth shatter, right away," when Canadiens defenseman Marc-Andre Bergeron (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=1764)'s
stick hit him in the mouth in the first period of Montreal's 2-1
victory at Washington in Game 5 of their playoff series Friday night.</p>

Belanger
needed some serious dental work at the arena, getting exposed tooth
roots trimmed -- then returned to the ice midway through the third
period.</p>

Explains Belanger: "I knew I was in trouble, but what are you going to do? It's the playoffs."</p>


</p>

Any soccer player would do this to, what's the big deal?
</p>Are you BEGGING for me and Bandy to hand you a Rangers vs Islanders BEATDOWN!?!?!? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doQiboZk0nI)

...... DAMN I MISS Dan Cloutier, that goalie could BRAWL!!!!!

Joe Morrison
04-25-2010, 11:52 AM
Did anyone else see this mornings NY Post and the pictures of the colums in the seats, reminds me of Yankee Stadium.
What a joke.
www.nypost.com

JPizzack
04-25-2010, 11:59 AM
Did anyone else see this mornings NY Post and the pictures of the colums in the seats, reminds me of Yankee Stadium.
What a joke.
www.nypost.com

lol, is that really front page news?

why didnt they just...idk...NOT put seats behind that? lol

JPizzack
04-25-2010, 12:02 PM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!

dezzzR
04-25-2010, 12:42 PM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
i dont know, i think we did alright. still have plenty of time to land a mlb. and lets face it, thats what everyones worried about. our d line will be relentless if they stay healthy.

Kase-1
04-25-2010, 07:18 PM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
i dont know, i think we did alright. still have plenty of time to land a mlb. and lets face it, thats what everyones worried about. our d line will be relentless if they stay healthy.
The more I think about it, the more I like our draft.... as long as we dont get rid of 1 of our DE's

JPP has a TON of talent, Linval Joseph is gonna be quite the addition as a space eater/run stuffer/NT/1-Tech, which'll allow guys like Barry Coefield to run wild in their normal position aka the 3-tech, Chad Jones seems like Gibril Wilson part 2, Mitch Petrus is a nice addition in the 5th, and I like the Punter in the 7th too bad it wasnt Zoltan though, he seemed to be a great leg

JPizzack
04-25-2010, 10:03 PM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
i dont know, i think we did alright. still have plenty of time to land a mlb. and lets face it, thats what everyones worried about. our d line will be relentless if they stay healthy.
The more I think about it, the more I like our draft.... as long as we dont get rid of 1 of our DE's

JPP has a TON of talent, Linval Joseph is gonna be quite the addition as a space eater/run stuffer/NT/1-Tech, which'll allow guys like Barry Coefield to run wild in their normal position aka the 3-tech, Chad Jones seems like Gibril Wilson part 2, Mitch Petrus is a nice addition in the 5th, and I like the Punter in the 7th too bad it wasnt <font size="5">Zoltan</font> though, he seemed to be a great leg


http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/569/dudemeet020nc.jpg

Morehead State
04-25-2010, 10:35 PM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
</P>


We didn't make moves because we have a good football team. We had a huge weakness in pass coverage downfield and in pass rushing. I believe we addressed these needs in the off season. We brought in 2 vet safeties and we drafted well. Thats right...WE DRAFTED WELL.</P>


No one knows what the future holds but these are fine prospects. I'm not sure what they have in mind at MLB, but with a deeper rotation at DE along with a real steal in Joseph at DT our D line is now in great shape. Sintim and Boley at SAM and WILL are strong. TC seems really high on Dillard and we'll see how that position goes. Our safeties are potentially the best in football with Rolle and KP.</P>


My biggest regret was Earl Thomas being drafted at 14. He would have been a huge addition to our defense, He could have played nickel CB in his first year and then the sky was the limit. But Oh Well.</P>


The combination of last years draft (which was fantastic) and this one puts us in a great position.</P>


All in all, our defense looks very strong if we come close to staying healthy next season.</P>

JPizzack
04-25-2010, 10:51 PM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
</p>


We didn't make moves because we have a good football team. We had a huge weakness in pass coverage downfield and in pass rushing. I believe we addressed these needs in the off season. We brought in 2 vet safeties and we drafted well. Thats right...WE DRAFTED WELL.</p>


No one knows what the future holds but these are fine prospects. I'm not sure what they have in mind at MLB, but with a deeper rotation at DE along with a real steal in Joseph at DT our D line is now in great shape. Sintim and Boley at SAM and WILL are strong. TC seems really high on Dillard and we'll see how that position goes. Our safeties are potentially the best in football with Rolle and KP.</p>


My biggest regret was Earl Thomas being drafted at 14. He would have been a huge addition to our defense, He could have played nickel CB in his first year and then the sky was the limit. But Oh Well.</p>


The combination of last years draft (which was fantastic) and this one puts us in a great position.</p>


All in all, our defense looks very strong if we come close to staying healthy next season.</p>

yea i also thought last year's draft was awesome.....but i'd hate to see the team get into a position where we have a huge hole at LB cuz we did far too little far too late.

Morehead State
04-26-2010, 09:09 AM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
</P>


We didn't make moves because we have a good football team. We had a huge weakness in pass coverage downfield and in pass rushing. I believe we addressed these needs in the off season. We brought in 2 vet safeties and we drafted well. Thats right...WE DRAFTED WELL.</P>


No one knows what the future holds but these are fine prospects. I'm not sure what they have in mind at MLB, but with a deeper rotation at DE along with a real steal in Joseph at DT our D line is now in great shape. Sintim and Boley at SAM and WILL are strong. TC seems really high on Dillard and we'll see how that position goes. Our safeties are potentially the best in football with Rolle and KP.</P>


My biggest regret was Earl Thomas being drafted at 14. He would have been a huge addition to our defense, He could have played nickel CB in his first year and then the sky was the limit. But Oh Well.</P>


The combination of last years draft (which was fantastic) and this one puts us in a great position.</P>


All in all, our defense looks very strong if we come close to staying healthy next season.</P>




yea i also thought last year's draft was awesome.....but i'd hate to see the team get into a position where we have a huge hole at LB cuz we did far too little far too late.
</P>


You can't have a pro bowler at every position. This isn't the Yankees where you can buy every player in the league. You actually have to build a team. You actually have to think about depth which is one of the most important elements of an NFL football team.</P>


I don't know that we have a big hole at LB. We certainly don't have one at outside LB. With a great D line (like we seem to have with a great rotation) and a good secondary, MLB becomes less important.</P>


Again I say, its the <U>capabilities</U> we needed to address, not positions. We drafted and signed FA's to address our lack of coverage downfield (especially deep) and our declining pass rush.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 09:39 AM
what a god awful draft. ONE ****ing hole left to fill and we dont do it. Then we pick Vernon Gholsten pt. 2...

horrid job, except for Jones in the third, that was a great pick

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 09:40 AM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
</p>


We didn't make moves because we have a good football team. We had a huge weakness in pass coverage downfield and in pass rushing. I believe we addressed these needs in the off season. We brought in 2 vet safeties and we drafted well. Thats right...WE DRAFTED WELL.</p>


No one knows what the future holds but these are fine prospects. I'm not sure what they have in mind at MLB, but with a deeper rotation at DE along with a real steal in Joseph at DT our D line is now in great shape. Sintim and Boley at SAM and WILL are strong. TC seems really high on Dillard and we'll see how that position goes. Our safeties are potentially the best in football with Rolle and KP.</p>


My biggest regret was Earl Thomas being drafted at 14. He would have been a huge addition to our defense, He could have played nickel CB in his first year and then the sky was the limit. But Oh Well.</p>


The combination of last years draft (which was fantastic) and this one puts us in a great position.</p>


All in all, our defense looks very strong if we come close to staying healthy next season.</p>




yea i also thought last year's draft was awesome.....but i'd hate to see the team get into a position where we have a huge hole at LB cuz we did far too little far too late.
</p>


You can't have a pro bowler at every position. This isn't the Yankees where you can buy every player in the league. You actually have to build a team. You actually have to think about depth which is one of the most important elements of an NFL football team.</p>


I don't know that we have a big hole at LB. We certainly don't have one at outside LB. With a great D line (like we seem to have with a great rotation) and a good secondary, MLB becomes less important.</p>


Again I say, its the <u>capabilities</u> we needed to address, not positions. We drafted and signed FA's to address our lack of coverage downfield (especially deep) and our declining pass rush.</p>

whatever you tell urself to sleep at night pappy... i am no believer in Goff, this is a horrible job by the front office. And the more I read up on and really learn about this Pierre feller... the less i like him...

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 09:44 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 09:51 AM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
</p>


We didn't make moves because we have a good football team. We had a huge weakness in pass coverage downfield and in pass rushing. I believe we addressed these needs in the off season. We brought in 2 vet safeties and we drafted well. Thats right...WE DRAFTED WELL.</p>


No one knows what the future holds but these are fine prospects. I'm not sure what they have in mind at MLB, but with a deeper rotation at DE along with a real steal in Joseph at DT our D line is now in great shape. Sintim and Boley at SAM and WILL are strong. TC seems really high on Dillard and we'll see how that position goes. Our safeties are potentially the best in football with Rolle and KP.</p>


My biggest regret was Earl Thomas being drafted at 14. He would have been a huge addition to our defense, He could have played nickel CB in his first year and then the sky was the limit. But Oh Well.</p>


The combination of last years draft (which was fantastic) and this one puts us in a great position.</p>


All in all, our defense looks very strong if we come close to staying healthy next season.</p>




yea i also thought last year's draft was awesome.....but i'd hate to see the team get into a position where we have a huge hole at LB cuz we did far too little far too late.
</p>


You can't have a pro bowler at every position. This isn't the Yankees where you can buy every player in the league. You actually have to build a team. You actually have to think about depth which is one of the most important elements of an NFL football team.</p>


I don't know that we have a big hole at LB. We certainly don't have one at outside LB. With a great D line (like we seem to have with a great rotation) and a good secondary, MLB becomes less important.</p>


Again I say, its the <u>capabilities</u> we needed to address, not positions. We drafted and signed FA's to address our lack of coverage downfield (especially deep) and our declining pass rush.</p>you mean we have puljos batting dh? and we have doc holliday and " the freaky franchise, big time timmy jim" (tim lincecum) as our 4th and 5th starters? geewizzz
but i agree i think we had a decent draft.

ny06
04-26-2010, 09:54 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone --* i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks..* Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought


Vasquez has been a disappointment so far.

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 09:59 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.

ny06
04-26-2010, 10:02 AM
I usually dont claim the sky is falling...but....

wtf....ourdraft days were awful. forget about the picks....even though i think they were all mediocre ones...
Why did we not make ANY moves?! Why did we not try to trade away any picks for something useful??? Why do we STILL not have an ILB?
Why does it seem that Reese wants us to rely solely on guys coming back from injury instead of actually trying to improve the team where we need help? I feel like Reese is more a scout, and less a GM....

call me giggles...but it has me kinda worried...and I havent felt like that in awhile....ack!
</P>


We didn't make moves because we have a good football team.* We had a huge weakness in pass coverage downfield and in pass rushing.* I believe we addressed these needs in the off season.* We brought in 2 vet safeties and we drafted well.* Thats right...WE DRAFTED WELL.</P>


No one knows what the future holds but these are fine prospects.* I'm not sure what they have in mind at MLB, but with a deeper rotation at DE along with a real steal in Joseph at DT our D line is now in great shape.* Sintim and Boley at SAM and WILL are strong.* TC seems really high on Dillard and we'll see how that position goes.* Our safeties are potentially the best in football with Rolle and KP.</P>


My biggest regret was Earl Thomas being drafted at 14.* He would have been a huge addition to our defense,** He could have played nickel CB in his first year and then the sky was the limit.* But Oh Well.</P>


The combination of last years draft (which was fantastic) and this one puts us in a great position.</P>


All in all, our defense looks very strong if we come close to staying healthy next season.</P>




yea i also thought last year's draft was awesome.....but i'd hate to see the team get into a position where we have a huge hole at LB cuz we did far too little far too late.
</P>


You can't have a pro bowler at every position.* This isn't the Yankees where you can buy every player in the league.* You actually have to build a team.*</P>

And the red sox have soo many home grown players?

Josh Beckett
John Lackey
Ramon Ramirez
Scott Schoeneweis
Tim Wakefield
Victor Martinez
Jason Varitek
Adrian Beltre
Bill Hall
Mike Lowell
Marco Scutaro
J.D. Drew
Jeremy Hermida
Mike Cameron
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Boof Bonser

that is all the players that have been picked up from other teams, from trades, free agency for the current Red Sox roster.

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:05 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:08 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz


and not to mention.. KC drafted a RB high with Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones signed... i guess Jets aren't the onyl ones who think that Jones is gonna be servicable at best

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:15 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz
A) geee ya think???? lol seahawks and kc suck **** matt. jets have one of the better olines in the league fooo'.
B) cause joba belonged in the pen. and they moved him. and i really hated him only being aloud to pitch 6.
and you had vaz swinging lifeless before he got here.

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:18 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz


and not to mention.. KC drafted a RB high with Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones signed... i guess Jets aren't the onyl ones who think that Jones is gonna be servicable at best
its called depth....it doesnt mean **** about his production. theyll split the carries and see whos better just like the majority of teams are doing now. doesnt it feel like the giants restarted dual running back fade again???

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:20 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz
A) geee ya think???? lol seahawks and kc suck **** matt. jets have one of the better olines in the league fooo'.
B) cause joba belonged in the pen. and they moved him. and i really hated him only being aloud to pitch 6.
and you had vaz swinging lifeless before he got here.



20 earned runs in 20 innings and 4 starts...

i had him swinging lifeless cuz he sucks in the AL and its being proven... again

Green is gonna be a superstar this year, book it

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:21 AM
eh maybe i was just used to tiki making it too easy

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:22 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz


and not to mention.. KC drafted a RB high with Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones signed... i guess Jets aren't the onyl ones who think that Jones is gonna be servicable at best
its called depth....it doesnt mean **** about his production. theyll split the carries and see whos better just like the majority of teams are doing now. doesnt it feel like the giants restarted dual running back fade again???


lol dude ur not going high on a pick for depth if ur a team in the state that the chiefs are in...especially at a position like RB where its dime a dozen

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:24 AM
the one thing i dont know about is this DT we got in the second... i dont know **** about him...

anybody know anything about him and have an opinion, other than moorehead who is apparently waving his fanclub flag hard this weekend

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 10:25 AM
After New York picked Pierre- Paul,
Tony Agnone told Umenyiora he thought he would be with a different team
next season. Agnone also made clear that Umenyiora would not
necessarily continue attending optional team activities after the draft
pick.

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:26 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz
A) geee ya think???? lol seahawks and kc suck **** matt. jets have one of the better olines in the league fooo'.
B) cause joba belonged in the pen. and they moved him. and i really hated him only being aloud to pitch 6.
and you had vaz swinging lifeless before he got here.



20 earned runs in 20 innings and 4 starts...

i had him swinging lifeless cuz he sucks in the AL and its being proven... again

Green is gonna be a superstar this year, book it
do you watch the games he pitches? its there, hes just inconsistent. needs to get in a groove. so your saying he gives up a joe jam to johny in the playoff and its proven he cant pitch in the AL? come on thats silly.
whats your definition of a superstar.

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 10:27 AM
This weekend, the Giants will give a tryout to Brandon Crawford, a
33-year-old “rookie” DE out of Ball State University. His agent confirmed
for the Daily News that he’s accepted an invitation for to attend the
team’s rookie mini-camp this weekend.<div id="TixyyLink" style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
What the **** is going on?
</div>

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 10:29 AM
There is no such thing as a 'good soldier,'" Agnone said. "You are your own corporation"

Does Osi's agent think he is God or what? lol

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 10:30 AM
By way of another rough outing from Javier Vazquez (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3301),
the Yankees (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/42)
lost their first series of the season Sunday. Joe Girardi seemed as
frustrated as Vazquez as he searched for answers to the pitcher's slow
start. But unlike two years ago, when Girardi watched neophytes Phil Hughes (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/7611) and
Ian Kennedy struggle through the start of the season, Vazquez is a
pitcher with a decade-long track record, so the manager remains
confident. "I can't give you a date when it becomes a concern, but
obviously we want him to be what we think he can be," Girardi said.

JPizzack
04-26-2010, 10:31 AM
agents are *******s

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 10:31 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:32 AM
Umenyiora told the Associated Press that he thought the selection of
Pierre-Paul was "a good move" and added, "I'm not unhappy at all. The
team has come out and said I won't be traded so now it's time to just
go out and play. I truly believe I'm among the best ends in the league
and now its time to stop talking and go out and prove it. That goes for
everyone also."

Osi kind of won me back with that comment... everybody can have their frustrations, but at the end of the day if this is really the approach hes taking then i'm fine with him...

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:33 AM
By way of another rough outing from Javier Vazquez (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3301),
the Yankees (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/42)
lost their first series of the season Sunday. Joe Girardi seemed as
frustrated as Vazquez as he searched for answers to the pitcher's slow
start. But unlike two years ago, when Girardi watched neophytes Phil Hughes (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/7611) and
Ian Kennedy struggle through the start of the season, Vazquez is a
pitcher with a decade-long track record, so the manager remains
confident. "I can't give you a date when it becomes a concern, but
obviously we want him to be what we think he can be," Girardi said.

EARTH TO JOE -- go look at his stats for the AL, its not a mystery

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:34 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


i ****ING LOVED IT. Finally yankees with a lil balls on em... we've had a decade of powder puffs.. Tex always get sthrown at so he took a lil frustration out after being hit. Was it intentional? More than likely....

to qoute a great movie:

"Don't stand on the tracks when the trains coming thru... butthead."

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:35 AM
agents are *******s


how bout those west playoffs

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:38 AM
guess whats playing on the radio right now

Nickelback - Burn it to the ground

[:)]

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:38 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz


and not to mention.. KC drafted a RB high with Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones signed... i guess Jets aren't the onyl ones who think that Jones is gonna be servicable at best
its called depth....it doesnt mean **** about his production. theyll split the carries and see whos better just like the majority of teams are doing now. doesnt it feel like the giants restarted dual running back fade again???


lol dude ur not going high on a pick for depth if ur a team in the state that the chiefs are in...especially at a position like RB where its dime a dozen
what are you talking about? they took dexter in the 2nd. they had a pretty good draft. look what the giants did with their first, added depth
whos behind a 30 year old jones? no one. they now have a solid one two punch at running back.

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 10:39 AM
agents are *******s


how bout those west playoffs

Embarrassing...

Backs against the wall now

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:40 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz


and not to mention.. KC drafted a RB high with Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones signed... i guess Jets aren't the onyl ones who think that Jones is gonna be servicable at best
its called depth....it doesnt mean **** about his production. theyll split the carries and see whos better just like the majority of teams are doing now. doesnt it feel like the giants restarted dual running back fade again???


lol dude ur not going high on a pick for depth if ur a team in the state that the chiefs are in...especially at a position like RB where its dime a dozen
what are you talking about? they took dexter in the 2nd. they had a pretty good draft. look what the giants did with their first, added depth
whos behind a 30 year old jones? no one. they now have a solid one two punch at running back.


i am talking about Giants &gt; Chiefs...

Giants are built and just need to add pieces

Chiefs are i the process of building

Its two teams in completely different places

thats what im talking about. You don't add depth for RB unless u dont have the guys there to do it. Stick a fork in TJ... this will be his last DECENT year. Thats if he even has a decent year

JPizzack
04-26-2010, 10:41 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:41 AM
agents are *******s


how bout those west playoffs

Embarrassing...

Backs against the wall now


KD KD KD KD KD KD KD KD KD

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:42 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


i ****ING LOVED IT. Finally yankees with a lil balls on em... we've had a decade of powder puffs.. Tex always get sthrown at so he took a lil frustration out after being hit. Was it intentional? More than likely....

to qoute a great movie:

"Don't stand on the tracks when the trains coming thru... butthead."
lol i was falling asleep when it happened, woke my *** up. i dont think it was intentional. even sosa said he didnt think so. but wow was that a shot. throwing a bow to the face. lol

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:42 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


def coulda and if he isn't one of the most thrown at guys in the game then I woulda thought differently. I like it tho, don't leave it up to pitching to send a message back, do it urself.

I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:43 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


i ****ING LOVED IT. Finally yankees with a lil balls on em... we've had a decade of powder puffs.. Tex always get sthrown at so he took a lil frustration out after being hit. Was it intentional? More than likely....

to qoute a great movie:

"Don't stand on the tracks when the trains coming thru... butthead."
lol i was falling asleep when it happened, woke my *** up. i dont think it was intentional. even sosa said he didnt think so. but wow was that a shot. throwing a bow to the face. lol


i think it was 110% intentional lol

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:44 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz


and not to mention.. KC drafted a RB high with Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones signed... i guess Jets aren't the onyl ones who think that Jones is gonna be servicable at best
its called depth....it doesnt mean **** about his production. theyll split the carries and see whos better just like the majority of teams are doing now. doesnt it feel like the giants restarted dual running back fade again???


lol dude ur not going high on a pick for depth if ur a team in the state that the chiefs are in...especially at a position like RB where its dime a dozen
what are you talking about? they took dexter in the 2nd. they had a pretty good draft. look what the giants did with their first, added depth
whos behind a 30 year old jones? no one. they now have a solid one two punch at running back.


i am talking about Giants &gt; Chiefs...

Giants are built and just need to add pieces

Chiefs are i the process of building

Its two teams in completely different places

thats what im talking about. You don't add depth for RB unless u dont have the guys there to do it. Stick a fork in TJ... this will be his last DECENT year. Thats if he even has a decent year
then wtfs the point of signing him in the first place?lol and yes i know he done behind an oline like kc.

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:46 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


def coulda and if he isn't one of the most thrown at guys in the game then I woulda thought differently. I like it tho, don't leave it up to pitching to send a message back, do it urself.

I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time
gardeners moving up quick on my list too. leads the league in sbs with 9. and hes on fiiiiiaa with the bat. one game he had 3 in field hits!!lmao him and grand are covering A LOTground in the outfield

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:47 AM
what a weekend of vegence for me vs pizz and dezz...

A) Leon Washington is gone -- i guess LT will have a big role for the jets hmmm...?

B) Even tho its early, Vaz still sucks.. Did you guys wake up on that yet?

C) Lakers series tied at 2, Suns series tied at 2, Spurs up 3-1, Utah up 3-1. I guess the west wasn't so in stone as some may of thought
A)pretty stupid on the jets part if you ask me. they were cheap and didnt want to pay him. they wont put up the same numbers on the ground next year, you can count on that. if green or blt get injured theyre ****ed.
B)not hitting the panic button yet.

C) dont care.




A) i bet u green has a better year than TJ and Leon

B) If we were talkin abot Joba, u'd have the noose around the tree already

C) that was more for pizz


and not to mention.. KC drafted a RB high with Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones signed... i guess Jets aren't the onyl ones who think that Jones is gonna be servicable at best
its called depth....it doesnt mean **** about his production. theyll split the carries and see whos better just like the majority of teams are doing now. doesnt it feel like the giants restarted dual running back fade again???


lol dude ur not going high on a pick for depth if ur a team in the state that the chiefs are in...especially at a position like RB where its dime a dozen
what are you talking about? they took dexter in the 2nd. they had a pretty good draft. look what the giants did with their first, added depth
whos behind a 30 year old jones? no one. they now have a solid one two punch at running back.


i am talking about Giants &gt; Chiefs...

Giants are built and just need to add pieces

Chiefs are i the process of building

Its two teams in completely different places

thats what im talking about. You don't add depth for RB unless u dont have the guys there to do it. Stick a fork in TJ... this will be his last DECENT year. Thats if he even has a decent year
then wtfs the point of signing him in the first place?lol and yes i know he done behind an oline like kc.


depth and short yardage/goalline

his days as a feature are done

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:48 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


def coulda and if he isn't one of the most thrown at guys in the game then I woulda thought differently. I like it tho, don't leave it up to pitching to send a message back, do it urself.

I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time
gardeners moving up quick on my list too. leads the league in sbs with 9. and hes on fiiiiiaa with the bat. one game he had 3 in field hits!!lmao him and grand are covering A LOTground in the outfield


yea i like gardener too.

Dare i say it, this may be better than that 98 team...

thats if Vaz could stop ****ting the bed [;)]

ny06
04-26-2010, 10:48 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


br>
I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time


Better then Reggie Jackson?

or

Paul O'Neil , Scott Brosius, Jimmy Key, Tino

Those were all great pickups

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:49 AM
listening to Siriur NFL radio they announced the Giants signed some undrafted rookie tackle out of Penn State....

gave him a 25k signing bonus which is alot...

they were praising it saying it was a great find...

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 10:52 AM
whos faster jose reyes or gardener?

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:52 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


br&gt;
I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time


Better then Reggie Jackson?

or

Paul O'Neil , Scott Brosius, Jimmy Key, Tino

Those were all great pickups

i can only speak of my lifetime...
Okay maybe not Pauly...

Reggie i can't speak on... Jimmy is a pitcher, im talkin ball player...

I loved Tino, but not more than im lovin Tex

Scotty.. i mean yea it was a great story and everything, but he still split alot of time when he was here...

Granderson is possible MVP status, i've been saying this isnce we got him.....


Tex tho, dude just does it all and has an attitude i like. Reminds me of Pauly a lil actually... except for the money part...

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:53 AM
whos faster jose reyes or gardener?





hmm...

thats close enough

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 10:55 AM
Ad Thomas anyone?

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 11:00 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


br&gt;
I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time


Better then Reggie Jackson?

or

Paul O'Neil , Scott Brosius, Jimmy Key, Tino

Those were all great pickups

i can only speak of my lifetime...
Okay maybe not Pauly...

Reggie i can't speak on... Jimmy is a pitcher, im talkin ball player...

I loved Tino, but not more than im lovin Tex

Scotty.. i mean yea it was a great story and everything, but he still split alot of time when he was here...

Granderson is possible MVP status, i've been saying this isnce we got him.....


Tex tho, dude just does it all and has an attitude i like. Reminds me of Pauly a lil actually... except for the money part...
id like to shoot you sometimes. how can you like tex more then tino already?lol tino was a HUGE part of getting those 4 rings. i think you forget what tino did in those playoffs. he was big in the clutch. tex hasnt proven that yet. im not ****ting on tex by any means. but come on, tino has more bling to back up that status.

ny06
04-26-2010, 11:01 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


br>
I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time


Better then Reggie Jackson?

or

Paul O'Neil , Scott Brosius, Jimmy Key, Tino

Those were all great pickups

i can only speak of my lifetime...
Okay maybe not Pauly...

Reggie i can't speak on... Jimmy is a pitcher, im talkin ball player...

I loved Tino, but not more than im lovin Tex

Scotty.. i mean yea it was a great story and everything, but he still split alot of time when he was here...

Granderson is possible MVP status, i've been saying this isnce we got him.....


Tex tho, dude just does it all and has an attitude i like. Reminds me of Pauly a lil actually... except for the money part...


I loved the Granderson pick-up.

When we got him from the Tigers I was like ok this is a solid move.

I was in Tampa about 2 years ago at this outside bar called Bahama Breeze.

I was having a drink and was like why do I know that guy over at the other table?

I racked my brain; I thought it was a player I played semi football in FL with. But I was like no way is that him. Next thing it came to me, Curtis Granderson.

I was telling my friend who was with me; I am like that is a MLB player right there, a good one too.

Of course she had no idea who he was lol

When Tex was on the market I did not want him at all. Not because of his talent but I thought he was asking for too much money.

But the second he put the pinstripes on I was sold. Solid hitter, good locker-room presence. And a great first baseman.

ny06
04-26-2010, 11:03 AM
Tino

http://i43.tinypic.com/71tvef.jpg

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 11:04 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


br&gt;
I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time


Better then Reggie Jackson?

or

Paul O'Neil , Scott Brosius, Jimmy Key, Tino

Those were all great pickups

i can only speak of my lifetime...
Okay maybe not Pauly...

Reggie i can't speak on... Jimmy is a pitcher, im talkin ball player...

I loved Tino, but not more than im lovin Tex

Scotty.. i mean yea it was a great story and everything, but he still split alot of time when he was here...

Granderson is possible MVP status, i've been saying this isnce we got him.....


Tex tho, dude just does it all and has an attitude i like. Reminds me of Pauly a lil actually... except for the money part...
id like to shoot you sometimes. how can you like tex more then tino already?lol tino was a HUGE part of getting those 4 rings. i think you forget what tino did in those playoffs. he was big in the clutch. tex hasnt proven that yet. im not ****ting on tex by any means. but come on, tino has more bling to back up that status.


simple - better bat (minus the one year tino juiced lol), better glove, and more vicious attitude.

Tex is a better player than Tino was all around

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 11:11 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


br&gt;
I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time


Better then Reggie Jackson?

or

Paul O'Neil , Scott Brosius, Jimmy Key, Tino

Those were all great pickups

i can only speak of my lifetime...
Okay maybe not Pauly...

Reggie i can't speak on... Jimmy is a pitcher, im talkin ball player...

I loved Tino, but not more than im lovin Tex

Scotty.. i mean yea it was a great story and everything, but he still split alot of time when he was here...

Granderson is possible MVP status, i've been saying this isnce we got him.....


Tex tho, dude just does it all and has an attitude i like. Reminds me of Pauly a lil actually... except for the money part...
id like to shoot you sometimes. how can you like tex more then tino already?lol tino was a HUGE part of getting those 4 rings. i think you forget what tino did in those playoffs. he was big in the clutch. tex hasnt proven that yet. im not ****ting on tex by any means. but come on, tino has more bling to back up that status.


simple - better bat (minus the one year tino juiced lol), better glove, and more vicious attitude.

Tex is a better player than Tino was all around
ohhh ok, you only like the REALLY good yankees....[:)]
havnt seen that bat in the playoffs yet...


and what viciousness? tex seems like a really chill guy. lol

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 11:14 AM
Ad Thomas anyone?

Yes please...

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 11:18 AM
Only eight teams in NBA history, out of the 189 that have tried, have
managed to come back from a 3-1 deficit in a best-of-seven playoff
series.</p>
"I've been in this situation. It can be done. ... I don't see no fat
lady," Marion said

HAHAHAHAHA MAVS SUCK!!!

Matt, you also have bragging rights about the Spurs, just sayin...

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 11:21 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/23/22/201004232249821674980-p2-210x210.jpg

"The plate was open -- I think he could have slid in and been safe just
sliding in," <a href="http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3281">Torii
Hunter</a> said of Teixeira. "You can look at the tape over and over
and say the play was clean or it was not right. It's baseball."


lol i think he coulda slid too....but....

YOU PLAAAY TO WINNN THE GAAAME! =p


br&gt;
I ****in love this guy man... him and Granderson may be my favorite additions to the yanks of all time


Better then Reggie Jackson?

or

Paul O'Neil , Scott Brosius, Jimmy Key, Tino

Those were all great pickups

i can only speak of my lifetime...
Okay maybe not Pauly...

Reggie i can't speak on... Jimmy is a pitcher, im talkin ball player...

I loved Tino, but not more than im lovin Tex

Scotty.. i mean yea it was a great story and everything, but he still split alot of time when he was here...

Granderson is possible MVP status, i've been saying this isnce we got him.....


Tex tho, dude just does it all and has an attitude i like. Reminds me of Pauly a lil actually... except for the money part...
id like to shoot you sometimes. how can you like tex more then tino already?lol tino was a HUGE part of getting those 4 rings. i think you forget what tino did in those playoffs. he was big in the clutch. tex hasnt proven that yet. im not ****ting on tex by any means. but come on, tino has more bling to back up that status.


simple - better bat (minus the one year tino juiced lol), better glove, and more vicious attitude.

Tex is a better player than Tino was all around
ohhh ok, you only like the REALLY good yankees....[:)]
havnt seen that bat in the playoffs yet...


and what viciousness? tex seems like a really chill guy. lol


he seems like if **** was gonna go down he'd be out there... tino would of NEVER got fed up and put his forearm in a catchers chest... infact he cried acouple of times after being beaned lol

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 11:22 AM
Only eight teams in NBA history, out of the 189 that have tried, have
managed to come back from a 3-1 deficit in a best-of-seven playoff
series.</p>
"I've been in this situation. It can be done. ... I don't see no fat
lady," Marion said

HAHAHAHAHA MAVS SUCK!!!

Matt, you also have bragging rights about the Spurs, just sayin...


its amazing, if u told me RJ would be useless and Duncan would have asingle digit points game and the Spurs won to go up 3-1, i would of never believed u

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 11:29 AM
Only eight teams in NBA history, out of the 189 that have tried, have
managed to come back from a 3-1 deficit in a best-of-seven playoff
series.</p>
"I've been in this situation. It can be done. ... I don't see no fat
lady," Marion said

HAHAHAHAHA MAVS SUCK!!!

Matt, you also have bragging rights about the Spurs, just sayin...


its amazing, if u told me RJ would be useless and Duncan would have asingle digit points game and the Spurs won to go up 3-1, i would of never believed u

Nowitzki muttered: "If Duncan goes 1-for-9 and Ginobili goes 4-for-16,
you've got to win that game."

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 11:30 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">According to NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora,
Giants and Saints almost pulled off trade of DT Barry Cofield for a
second-day pick during draft.</h6>

bigblue4417
04-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Giants general manager Jerry Reese (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8165) thought seriously about selecting Nebraska
linebacker <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25255">Phillip
Dillard</a> in the third round, but instead took LSU safety <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25909">Chad
Jones</a>. Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPNNewYork.com has the whole story (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5135357).



"There was some good discussion about it," said Marc Ross, the
Giants' director of college scouting. "We thought there was a chance
that [Dillard would] be available [in the fourth round] and that Chad
wouldn't be, so we decided to go that route and hold our breath, and we
got him. It was a restless night's sleep, but it was worth it."



The Giants think Dillard can compete for the starting job at middle
linebacker, but that's a pretty optimistic outlook. Having watched
Dillard play in the Big 12 for a couple of years, I'd say he needs at
least a year before he's ready to be a full-time starter. The Giants
will likely sign a veteran linebacker or they could trade for one. I'll
poke around and see what they think of Cowboys inside linebacker Bobby Carpenter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9604). There are actually some teams that
like Carpenter, but they may wait until the Cowboys release him.



Carpenter's role as a nickel linebacker will probably be taken over
by Penn State rookie <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25552">Sean
Lee</a>.

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 11:37 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">According to NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora,
Giants and Saints almost pulled off trade of DT Barry Cofield for a
second-day pick during draft.</h6>

that would of been awesome

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Giants general manager Jerry Reese (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8165) thought seriously about selecting Nebraska
linebacker <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25255">Phillip
Dillard</a> in the third round, but instead took LSU safety <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25909">Chad
Jones</a>. Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPNNewYork.com has the whole story (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5135357).



"There was some good discussion about it," said Marc Ross, the
Giants' director of college scouting. "We thought there was a chance
that [Dillard would] be available [in the fourth round] and that Chad
wouldn't be, so we decided to go that route and hold our breath, and we
got him. It was a restless night's sleep, but it was worth it."



The Giants think Dillard can compete for the starting job at middle
linebacker, but that's a pretty optimistic outlook. Having watched
Dillard play in the Big 12 for a couple of years, I'd say he needs at
least a year before he's ready to be a full-time starter. The Giants
will likely sign a veteran linebacker or they could trade for one. I'll
poke around and see what they think of Cowboys inside linebacker Bobby Carpenter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9604). There are actually some teams that
like Carpenter, but they may wait until the Cowboys release him.



Carpenter's role as a nickel linebacker will probably be taken over
by Penn State rookie <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25552">Sean
Lee</a>.

Gross.. signing Carpenter would be the insult to injury of avoiding a MLB in the draft...

Chad Jones is a great value pick.

If your lookin in the 3rd/4th round to supply ur mlb role, ur team shouldn't be as good as the giants are...

uhg Pierre = Gholsten = GWilk

"FREAKS OF NATURE"

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 12:02 PM
u guys suck donkey **** today

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 12:23 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">According to NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora,
Giants and Saints almost pulled off trade of DT Barry Cofield for a
second-day pick during draft.</h6>

that would of been awesome
ehh i like barry

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 12:28 PM
so whats everyone think of the 3 safety formation well be running? and will we cut mj and start jones? i hope so.

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 12:33 PM
so whats everyone think of the 3 safety formation well be running? and will we cut mj and start jones? i hope so.


Papa said this morning that the only way MJ makes the tema is if Phillip's health declines

lawl
04-26-2010, 12:35 PM
Giants general manager Jerry Reese (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8165) thought seriously about selecting Nebraska linebacker Phillip Dillard (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25255) in the third round, but instead took LSU safety Chad Jones (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25909). Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPNNewYork.com has the whole story (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5135357).

"There was some good discussion about it," said Marc Ross, the Giants' director of college scouting. "We thought there was a chance that [Dillard would] be available [in the fourth round] and that Chad wouldn't be, so we decided to go that route and hold our breath, and we got him. It was a restless night's sleep, but it was worth it."

The Giants think Dillard can compete for the starting job at middle linebacker, but that's a pretty optimistic outlook. Having watched Dillard play in the Big 12 for a couple of years, I'd say he needs at least a year before he's ready to be a full-time starter. The Giants will likely sign a veteran linebacker or they could trade for one. I'll poke around and see what they think of Cowboys inside linebacker Bobby Carpenter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9604). There are actually some teams that like Carpenter, but they may wait until the Cowboys release him.

Carpenter's role as a nickel linebacker will probably be taken over by Penn State rookie Sean Lee (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25552).

Gross.. signing Carpenter would be the insult to injury of avoiding a MLB in the draft...

Chad Jones is a great value pick.

If your lookin in the 3rd/4th round to supply ur mlb role, ur team shouldn't be as good as the giants are...

uhg Pierre = Gholsten = GWilk

"FREAKS OF NATURE"


</P>


</P>


unlike those two other guys pierre paul has a great motor which increases his chances alot.</P>

dezzzR
04-26-2010, 12:37 PM
so whats everyone think of the 3 safety formation well be running? and will we cut mj and start jones? i hope so.


Papa said this morning that the only way MJ makes the tema is if Phillip's health declines
thank you baby jesus

MattMeyerBud
04-26-2010, 12:41 PM
Giants general manager Jerry Reese (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8165) thought seriously about selecting Nebraska linebacker Phillip Dillard (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25255) in the third round, but instead took LSU safety Chad Jones (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25909). Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPNNewYork.com has the whole story (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5135357).

"There was some good discussion about it," said Marc Ross, the Giants' director of college scouting. "We thought there was a chance that [Dillard would] be available [in the fourth round] and that Chad wouldn't be, so we decided to go that route and hold our breath, and we got him. It was a restless night's sleep, but it was worth it."

The Giants think Dillard can compete for the starting job at middle linebacker, but that's a pretty optimistic outlook. Having watched Dillard play in the Big 12 for a couple of years, I'd say he needs at least a year before he's ready to be a full-time starter. The Giants will likely sign a veteran linebacker or they could trade for one. I'll poke around and see what they think of Cowboys inside linebacker Bobby Carpenter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9604). There are actually some teams that like Carpenter, but they may wait until the Cowboys release him.

Carpenter's role as a nickel linebacker will probably be taken over by Penn State rookie Sean Lee (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2010&amp;id=25552).

Gross.. signing Carpenter would be the insult to injury of avoiding a MLB in the draft...

Chad Jones is a great value pick.

If your lookin in the 3rd/4th round to supply ur mlb role, ur team shouldn't be as good as the giants are...

uhg Pierre = Gholsten = GWilk

"FREAKS OF NATURE"


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unlike those two other guys pierre paul has a great motor which increases his chances alot.</p>

and u caught that from all 7 games hes played in college? lol i'd say its fresh legs