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ibleedblue85
04-28-2010, 03:25 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</P>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</P>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</P>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</P>


</P>


aint that the truth...</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-28-2010, 03:29 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</p>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</p>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</p>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</p>

he was very davenish today

patsrule666
04-28-2010, 03:32 PM
afternoon people!afternoon to you too sir.. </P>


</P>


now isthat so hard people!! you all suck </P>


lol whats popin blood?
not much you.. sorry bout that i've got middle child syndrome</P>


i see the Bankees lost to Baltimore last night.. </P>


LMAO, whats up Bandy. I tried to say hi yesterday, and you sent the mods after me..lol.</P>


I used to beat up my older brother and younger sister..I was a non discriminating middle child..</P>

JPizzack
04-28-2010, 03:51 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</P>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</P>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</P>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</P>


</P>


aint that the truth...</P>


</P>


you hate everything I post also so PSSSHHHH!</P>


lol</P>

patsrule666
04-28-2010, 04:10 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</P>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</P>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</P>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</P>


</P>


aint that the truth...</P>


</P>


you hate everything I post also so PSSSHHHH!</P>


lol</P>


How do you say? Desperate much?? lol.</P>


[8] Igotmyhashpipe[8][8] </P>

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 04:12 PM
afternoon people!afternoon to you too sir.. </P>


</P>


now isthat so hard people!! you all suck </P>


lol whats popin blood?
not much you.. sorry bout that i've got middle child syndrome</P>


i see the Bankees lost to Baltimore last night.. </P>


LMAO, whats up Bandy. I tried to say hi yesterday, and you sent the mods after me..lol.</P>


I used to beat up my older brother and younger sister..I was a non discriminating middle child..</P>hiyah sir.. i wish i had an older brother beating me up rather than a older sister..

JPizzack
04-28-2010, 04:13 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</P>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</P>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</P>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</P>


</P>


aint that the truth...</P>


</P>


you hate everything I post also so PSSSHHHH!</P>


lol</P>


How do you say? Desperate much?? lol.</P>


[8] Igotmyhashpipe[8][8] </P>


</P>


lol are we still ridin out that line?</P>

ibleedblue85
04-28-2010, 04:13 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</P>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</P>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</P>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</P>


</P>


aint that the truth...</P>


</P>


you hate everything I post also so PSSSHHHH!</P>


lol</P>


How do you say? Desperate much?? lol.</P>


[8] Igotmyhashpipe[8][8] </P>


</P>


pats with the low blow... poor jpizzy- everyone picks on him... hes turning into BLT III- </P>


we all know dezz is BLT II</P>

patsrule666
04-28-2010, 04:26 PM
afternoon people!afternoon to you too sir.. </P>


</P>


now isthat so hard people!! you all suck </P>


lol whats popin blood?
not much you.. sorry bout that i've got middle child syndrome</P>


i see the Bankees lost to Baltimore last night.. </P>


LMAO, whats up Bandy. I tried to say hi yesterday, and you sent the mods after me..lol.</P>


I used to beat up my older brother and younger sister..I was a non discriminating middle child..</P>hiyah sir.. i wish i had an older brother beating me up rather than a older sister.. She sounds like a keeper...lol.

patsrule666
04-28-2010, 04:28 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</P>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</P>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</P>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</P>


</P>


aint that the truth...</P>


</P>


you hate everything I post also so PSSSHHHH!</P>


lol</P>


How do you say? Desperate much?? lol.</P>


[8] Igotmyhashpipe[8][8] </P>


</P>


pats with the low blow... poor jpizzy- everyone picks on him... hes turning into BLT III- </P>


we all know dezz is BLT II</P>


Eh, im not worried, he can take it as well as dish it..</P>


He all set................</P>

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 04:30 PM
afternoon people!afternoon to you too sir.. </P>


</P>


now isthat so hard people!! you all suck </P>


lol whats popin blood?
not much you.. sorry bout that i've got middle child syndrome</P>


i see the Bankees lost to Baltimore last night.. </P>


LMAO, whats up Bandy. I tried to say hi yesterday, and you sent the mods after me..lol.</P>


I used to beat up my older brother and younger sister..I was a non discriminating middle child..</P>hiyah sir.. i wish i had an older brother beating me up rather than a older sister.. She sounds like a keeper...lol.i'd rather take the beatin from her than my crazed Irish Mother, you don't know the way she weilds a broom.. than on top of that you get Dad putin a "you don't hit girls" beatin on yah aswell..

JPizzack
04-28-2010, 04:33 PM
lol....man i havent even been postin much the past week, mostly reading, and i been getting abuuuuused! lol</P>


whatever though, im the hottest **** since sliced bread....it dont phaaaase me!</P>

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 04:36 PM
lol....man i havent even been postin much the past week, mostly reading, and i been getting abuuuuused! lol</P>


whatever though, im the hottest **** since sliced bread....it dont phaaaase me!</P>i love yah JP

MattMeyerBud
04-28-2010, 04:37 PM
OFFICIAL PETITION FOR DEZZR TO CHANGE HIS NAME ON HERE SO NOBODY THINKS HES A DEZ BRYANT FAN:

1. MattMeyerBud

patsrule666
04-28-2010, 04:39 PM
Irish??? I cant beat that.....lol.</P>


However, my mom has French Indian in her blood..</P>


Not Irish, but close...lol.</P>

JPizzack
04-28-2010, 04:42 PM
i'd rather take the beatin from her than my crazed Irish Mother, you don't know the way she weilds a broom.. than on top of that you get Dad putin a "you don't hit girls" beatin on yah aswell..</P>


im pretty sure my mom can take out tyson....</P>


i'm afraid of her....especially if shes been drinkin. lol</P>

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 04:48 PM
i hear yah on the drinking thing.. ever get a beating with a tolberone bar? freaking things hurt.. i know what you are thinking..and you are right of course i didn't deserve it

JPizzack
04-28-2010, 04:57 PM
i hear yah on the drinking thing.. ever get a beating with a tolberone bar? freaking things hurt.. i know what you are thinking..and you are right of course i didn't deserve it</P>


hahaha</P>


nah man, that sounds like a puny attack method...i've gotten chased with a meat tenderizer once, but she LOVED the sauce spoon. that big ole wood thing! </P>


scariest moment of my life was when my dad threw gravel at me lol.....wtf, all i did was tell him I wasnt mowing 3 acres with a little red push mower, when HE got to use a triple wide locke mower! haha. i was 11</P>

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 05:00 PM
i hear yah on the drinking thing.. ever get a beating with a tolberone bar? freaking things hurt.. i know what you are thinking..and you are right of course i didn't deserve it</P>


hahaha</P>


nah man, that sounds like a puny attack method...i've gotten chased with a meat tenderizer once, but she LOVED the sauce spoon. that big ole wood thing! </P>


scariest moment of my life was when my dad threw gravel at me lol.....wtf, all i did was tell him I wasnt mowing 3 acres with a little red push mower, when HE got to use a triple wide locke mower! haha. i was 11</P>you win

patsrule666
04-28-2010, 05:02 PM
With Mr. Feagles retiring after the draft instead of before.</P>


Would the G-men have drafted a guy before the 7th round.</P>


You know, the guy that was picked right after Chaney?? lol.</P>

patsrule666
04-28-2010, 05:06 PM
PEACE.</P>


Go Habs.......[:S]</P>

JPizzack
04-28-2010, 05:09 PM
i hear yah on the drinking thing.. ever get a beating with a tolberone bar? freaking things hurt.. i know what you are thinking..and you are right of course i didn't deserve it</P>


hahaha</P>


nah man, that sounds like a puny attack method...i've gotten chased with a meat tenderizer once, but she LOVED the sauce spoon. that big ole wood thing! </P>


scariest moment of my life was when my dad threw gravel at me lol.....wtf, all i did was tell him I wasnt mowing 3 acres with a little red push mower, when HE got to use a triple wide locke mower! haha. i was 11</P>


you win</P>


i just made my parents sound abusive lol</P>


they arent/werent......theyre just Italian....not their fault =p
My dad really is an ******* though lol</P>

JPizzack
04-28-2010, 05:11 PM
With Mr. Feagles retiring after the draft instead of before.</P>


Would the G-men have drafted a guy before the 7th round.</P>


You know, the guy that was picked right after Chaney?? lol.</P>


</P>


lol who knows.</P>


we should trade all our picks for Shane Lechler....that guy is a god! hehe</P>

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 05:15 PM
PEACE.</P>


Go Habs.......[:S]</P>


scared of Crosby aren't yah? </P>


see yah Pats</P>

dezzzR
04-28-2010, 07:03 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</p>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</p>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</p>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</p>


</p>


aint that the truth...</p>


</p>


you hate everything I post also so PSSSHHHH!</p>


lol</p>


How do you say? Desperate much?? lol.</p>


[8] Igotmyhashpipe[8][8] </p>


</p>


pats with the low blow... poor jpizzy- everyone picks on him... hes turning into BLT III- </p>


we all know dezz is BLT II</p>ya know, i was gonna tell you how pretty you look in you facebook picture, but now mehh[:)]

dezzzR
04-28-2010, 07:31 PM
OFFICIAL PETITION FOR DEZZR TO CHANGE HIS NAME ON HERE SO NOBODY THINKS HES A DEZ BRYANT FAN:

1. MattMeyerBud
see that R. that means i have the rights to this bizzz

dezzzR
04-28-2010, 07:34 PM
http://aviscogitations.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/giants-michael-boley.jpg

he has no meat to hi mat all.. i think 225 is very realistic


if he was told today were moving you to mlb he can add 10 15 pounds before the season starts.

dezzzR
04-28-2010, 07:42 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</p>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</p> i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 07:46 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</P>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</P> i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
he's still gay lol

lawl
04-28-2010, 07:49 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</P>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</P>


i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
he's still gay lol</P>


</P>


Even if that were to be true, atleast he's not a catcher. [;)]</P>

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 07:51 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</P>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</P>


i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
he's still gay lol</P>


</P>


Even if that were to be true, atleast he's not a catcher. [;)]</P>lmao.. well done

dezzzR
04-28-2010, 07:54 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</p>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</p> i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
he's still gay lolyou would love him if he were a jay.
"timmy jim the freaky franchise." i like the espn commercial.

lawl
04-28-2010, 08:00 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</P>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</P>


i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
he's still gay lolyou would love him if he were a jay.
"timmy jim the freaky franchise." i like the espn commercial.
</P>


best pitcher in the league</P>

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 08:01 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</P>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</P> i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
he's still gay lolyou would love him if he were a jay.
"timmy jim the freaky franchise." i like the espn commercial.
almost had him and Halladay.. they were dealing Rios for Timmy way back when..

dezzzR
04-28-2010, 08:07 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</p>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</p>


i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
he's still gay lol</p>


</p>


Even if that were to be true, atleast he's not a catcher. [;)]</p>lol

ShockeyShow
04-28-2010, 08:31 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</p>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</p>


i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
he's still gay lol</p>


</p>


Even if that were to be true, atleast he's not a catcher. [;)]</p>


lmao....nicely played sir!


Whats up y'all? How's everyone in my favorite thread been?

bandwgn86
04-28-2010, 10:14 PM
stooooopid Boston RedSox..

ibleedblue85
04-28-2010, 10:24 PM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</P>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</P>


i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
</P>


atleast the phightens pulled out a W [;)]</P>

ibleedblue85
04-28-2010, 10:25 PM
being a sports fan is exhausting!</P>


im tired reading and talking about this stuff all day! lol

....or maybe its just that im actually sitting here reading all day that makes me tired....yea probably...</P>




engage in the battle and the juices will flow
</P>


I save all my energy for arguing with Morehead....lol....cuz he hates everything I post lol</P>


</P>


aint that the truth...</P>


</P>


you hate everything I post also so PSSSHHHH!</P>


lol</P>


How do you say? Desperate much?? lol.</P>


[8] Igotmyhashpipe[8][8] </P>


</P>


pats with the low blow... poor jpizzy- everyone picks on him... hes turning into BLT III- </P>


we all know dezz is BLT II</P>


ya know, i was gonna tell you how pretty you look in you facebook picture, but now mehh[:)]
</P>


stalking my FB? awww you really are blt!!!! lol kidding dezzyyyy &lt;3</P>

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 08:27 AM
lol i dont get the term "FB stalking"</P>


like....if someone posts something, youre somewhat likely to click their profile.
and if they have a new picture or something youre even more likely to lol. is that what FB stalking is??</P>

patsrule666
04-29-2010, 08:52 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 08:56 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


no, YOU have fun!</P>


lol</P>


stick it to the man, pats! lmao</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 09:07 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 09:09 AM
hey uncle morehead, whats crackalackin

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 09:11 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>

will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 09:20 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


isn't there a D in daven's last name?? I know....weird that i know that...but i try hard to remember the GMB ppl's names that im friends with on FB or else i forget who im talking to &gt;.&lt;</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 09:22 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


isn't there a D in daven's last name?? I know....weird that i know that...but i try hard to remember the GMB ppl's names that im friends with on FB or else i forget who im talking to &gt;.&lt;</p>

lol i dunno, im the worst with names... i do think there is something off with it so u may be right

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 09:23 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 09:32 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</P>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 09:37 AM
Tim Lincecum is gay!!!!</p>


(just seeing is lawl ACTUALLY went to class yet lol)</p>


i watched him pitch today. amazing is an understatement. he struck out the side. howard, ward, and ibanez. 11 pitches, 1 ball. next inning, 2 outs 2-2, throws a breaking ball for a strike on the outside, ump calls it a ball(horse****). next pitch, hiiiigh fastball get away from the catcher right by the umps shoulder.lol count 3-2, next pitch perfect slider 3 inches from the ground makes the batter look stupid. last i checked he had 10 k's on the day.
</p>


atleast the phightens pulled out a W [;)]</p>yea really....i turned the yanks on after the 6 i think and was shocked they pulled it out.

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 09:38 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 09:47 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>

yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 09:51 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</P>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</P>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</P>


yup im with ya on that</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 09:52 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>

thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 09:52 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</P>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</P>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</P>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</P>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 09:55 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 09:56 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 09:57 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>

ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:00 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>

ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 10:03 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 10:10 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.


how? theres 2 safetys and only one mlber. were loaded with youngings. its almost impossible that we loose over 5 linebackers to injury. if your speaking talent wise i still disagree. the added depth will make our lber and safety play better,

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:16 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:20 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.


how? theres 2 safetys and only one mlber. were loaded with youngings. its almost impossible that we loose over 5 linebackers to injury. if your speaking talent wise i still disagree. the added depth will make our lber and safety play better,


because we are rolling the dice on a player who hasn't shown much on the field to be our starter. Its a hole. What does having two safties on the filed have to do with anything? There was ONE saftey spot on the field that was a hole with MJ starting. There is ONE LB spot on the field this year thats a hole with Goff or Dillard or Gwilk or whoever u want to throw in there, starting.

We have Dillard and Goff as our only MLBs on the roster right now. If you feel good with that talent there, then im sure u felt good with MJ preseason last year. Look how that worked out

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 10:22 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



we forgot only mcclain can step right in and have an immediate impact.
id say osi and bradshaw had somewhat of an immediate impact. we didnt skip a beat when ward went down.

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 10:27 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</P>


After McClain was gone at 8, who would you have drafted for "immediate need"?</P>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</P>


Teams that draft for "immediate need" end up reaching, getting lesser value and end up as bad football teams.</P>


This is NFL 101. You certainly try to address needs if possible. But not at the cost of drafting lesser football players. If you watched the Giants draft in the 70's, as I did, you would have seen a perfect example of that. </P>


There was only one MLB worth drafting in round 1. He was gone. All your whining isn't going to change that.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:31 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?





i'll answer it for you:

Sueburt - didn't become a full time starter until his 6th season

Diehl - was starting right away but lets be honest, 2003 we were still building.

Snee - got time due to injury his rookie year and did good and earned the job

OHara n McKenzie were FA signings for us

but we don't have to look further then this decade of draft history from the giants:

2002 - Nick Greisen(5), Wesley Mallard(6)

2004 - Reggie Torbor (4)

2006 - Gerris Wilkinson (3)

2007 - Zak Deossie (4)

2008 - Jon Goff (5)

2009 - Sintim (2)


what a decade of LB draft picks...

how much success have we had by sticking with this thoery of mid to late picks filling our needs? Its been a waste of time for everybody involved.

The only guy who is lokoing like a stud or has a high upside is Sintim and OH look where we drafted him ,he was a high pick.

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:32 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>


After McClain was gone at 8, who would you have drafted for "immediate need"?</p>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>


Teams that draft for "immediate need" end up reaching, getting lesser value and end up as bad football teams.</p>


This is NFL 101. You certainly try to address needs if possible. But not at the cost of drafting lesser football players. If you watched the Giants draft in the 70's, as I did, you would have seen a perfect example of that. </p>


There was only one MLB worth drafting in round 1. He was gone. All your whining isn't going to change that.</p>

would of liked Weatherspoon , would of liked to trade for Morrison, would of liked to trade up for McClain. Get a guy like Washington or Lee in the second

many different ways we could of gone, it should of been a priority

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:34 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



we forgot only mcclain can step right in and have an immediate impact.
id say osi and bradshaw had somewhat of an immediate impact. we didnt skip a beat when ward went down.


Bradshaw really had one game, lets be honest. He is a freak tho. But still he even only got his chance because of injury. He wasn't picked to come in and be starting running back or even really compete for it. He was 3rd RB at best going into that season

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:35 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>



As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>

but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:42 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



we forgot only mcclain can step right in and have an immediate impact.
id say osi and bradshaw had somewhat of an immediate impact. we didnt skip a beat when ward went down.



sooooo ur saying Dillard is gonna step in and be the guy we need him to be?

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 10:42 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</P>


After McClain was gone at 8, who would you have drafted for "immediate need"?</P>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</P>


Teams that draft for "immediate need" end up reaching, getting lesser value and end up as bad football teams.</P>


This is NFL 101. You certainly try to address needs if possible. But not at the cost of drafting lesser football players. If you watched the Giants draft in the 70's, as I did, you would have seen a perfect example of that. </P>


There was only one MLB worth drafting in round 1. He was gone. All your whining isn't going to change that.</P>




would of liked Weatherspoon , would of liked to trade for Morrison, would of liked to trade up for McClain. Get a guy like Washington or Lee in the second

many different ways we could of gone, it should of been a priority
</P>


You know I liked Spoon. But he is an outside LB. You want "immediate need" and you want to draft a rook at 15 for a position he didn't play, and hope he can learn right away and contribute. Thats a fantasy.</P>


Washington is tiny and was projected as an outside LB. No one would have thought to trade up in front of Oakland for McClain. The Giants didn'r rate him that high. No one did.</P>


Lee never would have been a first year contributor. He was drafted by Dallas to learn behind Brooking for a few years.</P>


The only possible "immediate impact" player was McClain and he was even a longshot to start for us.</P>


</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 10:47 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</P>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</P>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</P>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</P>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</P>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:53 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>


After McClain was gone at 8, who would you have drafted for "immediate need"?</p>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>


Teams that draft for "immediate need" end up reaching, getting lesser value and end up as bad football teams.</p>


This is NFL 101. You certainly try to address needs if possible. But not at the cost of drafting lesser football players. If you watched the Giants draft in the 70's, as I did, you would have seen a perfect example of that. </p>


There was only one MLB worth drafting in round 1. He was gone. All your whining isn't going to change that.</p>




would of liked Weatherspoon , would of liked to trade for Morrison, would of liked to trade up for McClain. Get a guy like Washington or Lee in the second

many different ways we could of gone, it should of been a priority
</p>


You know I liked Spoon. But he is an outside LB. You want "immediate need" and you want to draft a rook at 15 for a position he didn't play, and hope he can learn right away and contribute. Thats a fantasy.</p>


Washington is tiny and was projected as an outside LB. No one would have thought to trade up in front of Oakland for McClain. The Giants didn'r rate him that high. No one did.</p>


Lee never would have been a first year contributor. He was drafted by Dallas to learn behind Brooking for a few years.</p>


The only possible "immediate impact" player was McClain and he was even a longshot to start for us.</p>


</p>
He was scouted as being able to play the middle of a 4-3 though. You put me onto the guy in the beginning lol, i learned it cuz brought his name up.

Washington is 6'3 235 and his a wide frame and to qoute Gil Brant "He could get to 250 at one sitting".

I think we're just different on how we see Goff. I think Lee is good enough to overtake him this year

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 10:53 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.


how? theres 2 safetys and only one mlber. were loaded with youngings. its almost impossible that we loose over 5 linebackers to injury. if your speaking talent wise i still disagree. the added depth will make our lber and safety play better,


because we are rolling the dice on a player who hasn't shown much on the field to be our starter. Its a hole. What does having two safties on the filed have to do with anything? There was ONE saftey spot on the field that was a hole with MJ starting. There is ONE LB spot on the field this year thats a hole with Goff or Dillard or Gwilk or whoever u want to throw in there, starting.

We have Dillard and Goff as our only MLBs on the roster right now. If you feel good with that talent there, then im sure u felt good with MJ preseason last year. Look how that worked out
i think your over rating the mlb matt, especially with the dline just revamped. im reading dillards a sure tackler, and if i remember the carolina and viking game correctly, that was a huge need. im complacent with what we have, even though our draft choices regarding lbers has been terrible the last few years. it time for the youngings to learn. your argument relating the issue with our safety woes last year isnt to great, teams arent going to be airing it out cause we have an rookie mlber....just admit that the dline we have can take a lot of pressure off our lbers and secondary...............

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:55 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</p>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</p>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</p>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</p>

i dont think our need at LB is to get depth. I think the guys we have now are depth guys. We need somebody that can step in and play and if hes young and has an upside that he could be our guy for a couple of years i'd take having a down year from MLB...

right now we have a young guy, who i dont think we're gonna get a good year out of, and won't get much better

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:56 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</p>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</p>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</p>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</p>

i dont think our need at LB is to get depth. I think the guys we have now are depth guys. We need somebody that can step in and play and if hes young and has an upside that he could be our guy for a couple of years i'd take having a down year from MLB...

right now we have a young guy, who i dont think we're gonna get a good year out of, and won't get much better

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 10:58 AM
one of my coworkers just emptied 2 cases of purell bottles into my office and scattered them around while I was outside....
I love Purell!! lol

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 10:59 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.


how? theres 2 safetys and only one mlber. were loaded with youngings. its almost impossible that we loose over 5 linebackers to injury. if your speaking talent wise i still disagree. the added depth will make our lber and safety play better,


because we are rolling the dice on a player who hasn't shown much on the field to be our starter. Its a hole. What does having two safties on the filed have to do with anything? There was ONE saftey spot on the field that was a hole with MJ starting. There is ONE LB spot on the field this year thats a hole with Goff or Dillard or Gwilk or whoever u want to throw in there, starting.

We have Dillard and Goff as our only MLBs on the roster right now. If you feel good with that talent there, then im sure u felt good with MJ preseason last year. Look how that worked out
i think your over rating the mlb matt, especially with the dline just revamped. im reading dillards a sure tackler, and if i remember the carolina and viking game correctly, that was a huge need. im complacent with what we have, even though our draft choices regarding lbers has been terrible the last few years. it time for the youngings to learn. your argument relating the issue with our safety woes last year isnt to great, teams arent going to be airing it out cause we have an rookie mlber....just admit that the dline we have can take a lot of pressure off our lbers and secondary...............

ur on crack if u think that MLB is overrated position

i've never herad such a ridiculous thing. Im sure people said the same thing about having MJ as that other saftey last year...

Sure tackler is great... thats the easy part of playing MLB. Making the read as soon as the ball is snapped is where the hard part is. Shedding blockers, being quick enough to not get caught up in the wash....

MLB in a 4-3 has somebody from anywhere on the offense coming down to block him from tackle to tackle, tight, fb, pulling olineman. Its difficult. Goff doesn't seem to have the quick reads or the patience to get to a play. He made HORRIBLE reads all year last year.

Your underestimating how hard of a position it is.

ny06
04-29-2010, 10:59 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current.* Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs.** They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line.* It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round.* Siebert-undrafted** Ohara- undrafted*** Snee- 2nd round** McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi.* Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team.** </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</P>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need.* You draft to build a football team.</P>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</P>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need"** There is no way they drafted him to start next year.* That would be silly.</P>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. * We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start.* Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</P>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box?* Not many.</P>


These are first round picks who started right away. There are soo many more.

Lawrence Taylor
Randy Moss
Edgerrin James
Carnell Williams
Marshall Faulk
Marcus Allen
Barry Sanders
Drew Bledsoe

Just making an observation that rookies have started right away.

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 11:03 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



we forgot only mcclain can step right in and have an immediate impact.
id say osi and bradshaw had somewhat of an immediate impact. we didnt skip a beat when ward went down.



sooooo ur saying Dillard is gonna step in and be the guy we need him to be?
i didnt say anyones name. if it be dillard, goff, or your homie wilk. i think theyll do their job regardless of whos there. we have a pretty damn good defense regardless of whos playing mlber. accept it.

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 11:10 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.


how? theres 2 safetys and only one mlber. were loaded with youngings. its almost impossible that we loose over 5 linebackers to injury. if your speaking talent wise i still disagree. the added depth will make our lber and safety play better,


because we are rolling the dice on a player who hasn't shown much on the field to be our starter. Its a hole. What does having two safties on the filed have to do with anything? There was ONE saftey spot on the field that was a hole with MJ starting. There is ONE LB spot on the field this year thats a hole with Goff or Dillard or Gwilk or whoever u want to throw in there, starting.

We have Dillard and Goff as our only MLBs on the roster right now. If you feel good with that talent there, then im sure u felt good with MJ preseason last year. Look how that worked out
i think your over rating the mlb matt, especially with the dline just revamped. im reading dillards a sure tackler, and if i remember the carolina and viking game correctly, that was a huge need. im complacent with what we have, even though our draft choices regarding lbers has been terrible the last few years. it time for the youngings to learn. your argument relating the issue with our safety woes last year isnt to great, teams arent going to be airing it out cause we have an rookie mlber....just admit that the dline we have can take a lot of pressure off our lbers and secondary...............

ur on crack if u think that MLB is overrated position

i've never herad such a ridiculous thing. Im sure people said the same thing about having MJ as that other saftey last year...

Sure tackler is great... thats the easy part of playing MLB. Making the read as soon as the ball is snapped is where the hard part is. Shedding blockers, being quick enough to not get caught up in the wash....

MLB in a 4-3 has somebody from anywhere on the offense coming down to block him from tackle to tackle, tight, fb, pulling olineman. Its difficult. Goff doesn't seem to have the quick reads or the patience to get to a play. He made HORRIBLE reads all year last year.

Your underestimating how hard of a position it is.
i said YOUR over rating the mlber position! ya ****. aaand the line we have will make it easier to shed blocks. overall our line will make it a bit easier whoevers in the middle. admit it.
you think ap just stepped in here and was calling all the right audibles? its a learning process, even if we landed morrison, it still would of taken him a while to get used to our system.

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 11:16 AM
The <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS">Washington
Redskins</a> announced the signings of veteran free agent wide
receivers <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888">Joey
Galloway</a> and <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/players/bobbywade/profile?id=WAD319482_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/players/bobbywade/profile?id=WAD319482">Bobby
Wade</a> on Thursday. Terms of the deals were not disclosed.

ny06
04-29-2010, 11:19 AM
The <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS">Washington
Redskins</a> announced the signings of veteran free agent wide
receivers <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888">Joey
Galloway</a> and <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/players/bobbywade/profile?id=WAD319482_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/players/bobbywade/profile?id=WAD319482">Bobby
Wade</a> on Thursday. Terms of the deals were not disclosed.

The redskins signed these two?

Galloway is over the hill

Wade is a second or 3rd wr option at best

I guess TO is not going to the redskins

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 11:20 AM
The redskins signed these two?
Correct...

ibleedblue85
04-29-2010, 11:20 AM
morning gents! [:)]

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 11:22 AM
The redskins signed these two?
Correct...
</P>


meh...not important news...they shoulda dabbled in the FA market a bit earlier maybe.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 11:23 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</p>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</p>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</p>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</p>


These are first round picks who started right away. There are soo many more.


Randy Moss
Edgerrin James
Carnell Williams
Marshall Faulk
Marcus Allen
Barry Sanders
Drew Bledsoe

Just making an observation that rookies have started right away.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2009.htm

27 of the 32 picks in the first round from last years draft played at least 10 games. 4 of the 5 picks didn't start 10 games because they were injured for the year. Eugene Monrmore even had some starts...

this totally contradicts any point u could say about not drafting for need

not u ny, referring to moorehead

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 11:23 AM
The <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS">Washington
Redskins</a> announced the signings of veteran free agent wide
receivers <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888">Joey
Galloway</a> and <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/players/bobbywade/profile?id=WAD319482_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/players/bobbywade/profile?id=WAD319482">Bobby
Wade</a> on Thursday. Terms of the deals were not disclosed.lol no TO?????

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 11:23 AM
morning gents! [:)]</P>


hollerrrrr</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 11:24 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 11:25 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



we forgot only mcclain can step right in and have an immediate impact.
id say osi and bradshaw had somewhat of an immediate impact. we didnt skip a beat when ward went down.



sooooo ur saying Dillard is gonna step in and be the guy we need him to be?
i didnt say anyones name. if it be dillard, goff, or your homie wilk. i think theyll do their job regardless of whos there. we have a pretty damn good defense regardless of whos playing mlber. accept it.


we do, but we have a glaring hole in the middle of our defenes

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 11:25 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</P>


best reponse to a greeting EVVVEERRRRR! i lol'd</P>

ibleedblue85
04-29-2010, 11:26 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</P>


i love you.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 11:27 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.


how? theres 2 safetys and only one mlber. were loaded with youngings. its almost impossible that we loose over 5 linebackers to injury. if your speaking talent wise i still disagree. the added depth will make our lber and safety play better,


because we are rolling the dice on a player who hasn't shown much on the field to be our starter. Its a hole. What does having two safties on the filed have to do with anything? There was ONE saftey spot on the field that was a hole with MJ starting. There is ONE LB spot on the field this year thats a hole with Goff or Dillard or Gwilk or whoever u want to throw in there, starting.

We have Dillard and Goff as our only MLBs on the roster right now. If you feel good with that talent there, then im sure u felt good with MJ preseason last year. Look how that worked out
i think your over rating the mlb matt, especially with the dline just revamped. im reading dillards a sure tackler, and if i remember the carolina and viking game correctly, that was a huge need. im complacent with what we have, even though our draft choices regarding lbers has been terrible the last few years. it time for the youngings to learn. your argument relating the issue with our safety woes last year isnt to great, teams arent going to be airing it out cause we have an rookie mlber....just admit that the dline we have can take a lot of pressure off our lbers and secondary...............

ur on crack if u think that MLB is overrated position

i've never herad such a ridiculous thing. Im sure people said the same thing about having MJ as that other saftey last year...

Sure tackler is great... thats the easy part of playing MLB. Making the read as soon as the ball is snapped is where the hard part is. Shedding blockers, being quick enough to not get caught up in the wash....

MLB in a 4-3 has somebody from anywhere on the offense coming down to block him from tackle to tackle, tight, fb, pulling olineman. Its difficult. Goff doesn't seem to have the quick reads or the patience to get to a play. He made HORRIBLE reads all year last year.

Your underestimating how hard of a position it is.
i said YOUR over rating the mlber position! ya ****. aaand the line we have will make it easier to shed blocks. overall our line will make it a bit easier whoevers in the middle. admit it.
you think ap just stepped in here and was calling all the right audibles? its a learning process, even if we landed morrison, it still would of taken him a while to get used to our system.


im pretty sure im in line with popular belief about the importance of the center of your defense.

Just curious how does a defeinsive lineman help a linebacker shed an oncoming blocker?

Morrison is vet and a value... he played a similar defense in Oakland. Hes proven... Goff don't know this defense either, so that sets us back even more by ur theory

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 11:28 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</p>


i love you.</p>lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 11:29 AM
The <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/teams/washingtonredskins/profile?team=WAS">Washington
Redskins</a> announced the signings of veteran free agent wide
receivers <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/players/joeygalloway/profile?id=GAL752888">Joey
Galloway</a> and <a onclick='s_objectID="http://www.nfl.com/players/bobbywade/profile?id=WAD319482_1";return
this.s_oc?this.s_oc(e):true' href="http://www.nfl.com/players/bobbywade/profile?id=WAD319482">Bobby
Wade</a> on Thursday. Terms of the deals were not disclosed.

Joey Galloway? lol WHAT?!

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 11:33 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</P>


i love you.</P>


lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****
</P>


hahahahahahahahahahaha...so random. love it...</P>


you guys ever hear blink 182's live cd back when? prolly like 10 years ago...
one of the guys is like "Hey..........................whats up I like your hair!"
i say it all the time...sorry thats what reminded me, had to share.</P>


thx for the laugh Dezzz</P>

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 11:37 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</p>


i love you.</p>lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****

http://indiana.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/23/love_connection_gameshow_logo.jpg

ibleedblue85
04-29-2010, 11:38 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</P>


i love you.</P>


lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****
</P>


hahaha i ordered it online to add to my ridiculous giants clothing collection. i was going thru all my giants **** and between shirts, sweatshirts, jerseys i have SOO much lol i even have a giants purse and a backpack matt bought me.. plus headbands and giants earings and my winter coat... lol its an obsession... next purchase is the bathing suit lol AND i just got my sweatshirt that has NICKS 88 on the back... lol but i was shopping online and i saw that shirt for $20 and thought it was dead sexy so i had to buy .. lol</P>


thanks told you i was chopping it and adding alotta dark! its still blondieeee around my face tho.. been like that since october, you would have seen it in person if you didnt pull a BLT [;)] lol</P>

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 11:39 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</P>


i love you.</P>


lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****

http://indiana.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/23/love_connection_gameshow_logo.jpg
</P>


we'll be back in 2 in 2!
http://www.kathylcarter.com/hosts/chuckWoolery/images/chuck_woolery_headshot.jpg</P>

ibleedblue85
04-29-2010, 11:45 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</P>


i love you.</P>


lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****

http://indiana.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/23/love_connection_gameshow_logo.jpg
</P>


we'll be back in 2 in 2!
http://www.kathylcarter.com/hosts/chuckWoolery/images/chuck_woolery_headshot.jpg</P>


</P>


alright, enough. ive already tried the gmb love connection once... thats enough for me... sorry dezzy, try hittin up HP?! lol </P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 11:47 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tiki-barber-slapped-with-divorce-suit

karma

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 11:50 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.


how? theres 2 safetys and only one mlber. were loaded with youngings. its almost impossible that we loose over 5 linebackers to injury. if your speaking talent wise i still disagree. the added depth will make our lber and safety play better,


because we are rolling the dice on a player who hasn't shown much on the field to be our starter. Its a hole. What does having two safties on the filed have to do with anything? There was ONE saftey spot on the field that was a hole with MJ starting. There is ONE LB spot on the field this year thats a hole with Goff or Dillard or Gwilk or whoever u want to throw in there, starting.

We have Dillard and Goff as our only MLBs on the roster right now. If you feel good with that talent there, then im sure u felt good with MJ preseason last year. Look how that worked out
i think your over rating the mlb matt, especially with the dline just revamped. im reading dillards a sure tackler, and if i remember the carolina and viking game correctly, that was a huge need. im complacent with what we have, even though our draft choices regarding lbers has been terrible the last few years. it time for the youngings to learn. your argument relating the issue with our safety woes last year isnt to great, teams arent going to be airing it out cause we have an rookie mlber....just admit that the dline we have can take a lot of pressure off our lbers and secondary...............

ur on crack if u think that MLB is overrated position

i've never herad such a ridiculous thing. Im sure people said the same thing about having MJ as that other saftey last year...

Sure tackler is great... thats the easy part of playing MLB. Making the read as soon as the ball is snapped is where the hard part is. Shedding blockers, being quick enough to not get caught up in the wash....

MLB in a 4-3 has somebody from anywhere on the offense coming down to block him from tackle to tackle, tight, fb, pulling olineman. Its difficult. Goff doesn't seem to have the quick reads or the patience to get to a play. He made HORRIBLE reads all year last year.

Your underestimating how hard of a position it is.
i said YOUR over rating the mlber position! ya ****. aaand the line we have will make it easier to shed blocks. overall our line will make it a bit easier whoevers in the middle. admit it.
you think ap just stepped in here and was calling all the right audibles? its a learning process, even if we landed morrison, it still would of taken him a while to get used to our system.


im pretty sure im in line with popular belief about the importance of the center of your defense.

Just curious how does a defeinsive lineman help a linebacker shed an oncoming blocker?

Morrison is vet and a value... he played a similar defense in Oakland. Hes proven... Goff don't know this defense either, so that sets us back even more by ur theory
well, if a big fat ol dt is clogging the hole, the mlber really doesnt need to shed to many blocks now does he.
and no it doesnt cause you dont know that or whos starting....

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 11:53 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</p>


i love you.</p>


lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****
</p>


hahahahahahahahahahaha...so random. love it...</p>


you guys ever hear blink 182's live cd back when? prolly like 10 years ago...
one of the guys is like "Hey..........................whats up I like your hair!"
i say it all the time...sorry thats what reminded me, had to share.</p>


thx for the laugh Dezzz</p>im here all week. [:)]

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 11:53 AM
Thank God Feagles is retiring

great giant and amazing story, but he hit a wall hard last year. Glad he isn't trying to stretch it out
</p>


well going into last year he was still one of the most effective punters....so it's good that he chose now as the time. i have no hard feelings!</p>




yea na me either, perfect time to do it...

i was just a lil heated that the Giants thought he still had it in him. That was baffling... thats why the front office scares me sometimes. Leaving WR open last year, fine it worked out, but risky, leaving Michael Johnson in last year, Resigning feagles this year, going into the year with no MLB...


some risky business they pull sometimes
</p>


We went into last year with 3 safeties. I agree that was a huge mistake. Many of us (maybe even you, Maven) said so.</p>


Right now its April. A lot of time will pass before our 2010 team is set. Lots of teams have question marks right now at lots of positions.</p>

I think our LB position this year is very comparable to what we were doing with Saftey last year. Thats what scares me so much.


And while me and u specifically thought that it was a bad idea, there were plenty of supporters for MJ who thought it was a good idea.


how? theres 2 safetys and only one mlber. were loaded with youngings. its almost impossible that we loose over 5 linebackers to injury. if your speaking talent wise i still disagree. the added depth will make our lber and safety play better,


because we are rolling the dice on a player who hasn't shown much on the field to be our starter. Its a hole. What does having two safties on the filed have to do with anything? There was ONE saftey spot on the field that was a hole with MJ starting. There is ONE LB spot on the field this year thats a hole with Goff or Dillard or Gwilk or whoever u want to throw in there, starting.

We have Dillard and Goff as our only MLBs on the roster right now. If you feel good with that talent there, then im sure u felt good with MJ preseason last year. Look how that worked out
i think your over rating the mlb matt, especially with the dline just revamped. im reading dillards a sure tackler, and if i remember the carolina and viking game correctly, that was a huge need. im complacent with what we have, even though our draft choices regarding lbers has been terrible the last few years. it time for the youngings to learn. your argument relating the issue with our safety woes last year isnt to great, teams arent going to be airing it out cause we have an rookie mlber....just admit that the dline we have can take a lot of pressure off our lbers and secondary...............

ur on crack if u think that MLB is overrated position

i've never herad such a ridiculous thing. Im sure people said the same thing about having MJ as that other saftey last year...

Sure tackler is great... thats the easy part of playing MLB. Making the read as soon as the ball is snapped is where the hard part is. Shedding blockers, being quick enough to not get caught up in the wash....

MLB in a 4-3 has somebody from anywhere on the offense coming down to block him from tackle to tackle, tight, fb, pulling olineman. Its difficult. Goff doesn't seem to have the quick reads or the patience to get to a play. He made HORRIBLE reads all year last year.

Your underestimating how hard of a position it is.
i said YOUR over rating the mlber position! ya ****. aaand the line we have will make it easier to shed blocks. overall our line will make it a bit easier whoevers in the middle. admit it.
you think ap just stepped in here and was calling all the right audibles? its a learning process, even if we landed morrison, it still would of taken him a while to get used to our system.


im pretty sure im in line with popular belief about the importance of the center of your defense.

Just curious how does a defeinsive lineman help a linebacker shed an oncoming blocker?

Morrison is vet and a value... he played a similar defense in Oakland. Hes proven... Goff don't know this defense either, so that sets us back even more by ur theory
well, if a big fat ol dt is clogging the hole, the mlber really doesnt need to shed to many blocks now does he.
and no it doesnt cause you dont know that or whos starting....


last time i checked there is a minimum of 5 OLineman, plus tight ends and fullbacks

and we run a 4-3, the 4 recognizing 4 DLineman

and in these cases most of the times, its a one on one matchup... not like in a 3-4 when a NT is suppose to take on blockers...

i wasn't the greatest at math, but im pretty sure there is somebody that is going to have the assignment of blocking a middle linebacker almost every play...

then again... not only is shedding the block important, but also makiing the right reads and being in position of respoinsibility... something Goff was brutal at and that Dillard's "sure tackler" label doesn't cover

and in reality we only have 3 possible options at MLB right now: Goff, GWilk, and Dillard.and none of them have played in Fewells defense

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 11:55 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</P>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</P>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</P>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</P>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</P>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</P>


These are first round picks who started right away. There are soo many more. Lawrence Taylor Randy Moss Edgerrin James Carnell Williams Marshall Faulk Marcus Allen Barry Sanders Drew Bledsoe Just making an observation that rookies have started right away.</P>


Trust me my friend, the list of first rounders who didn't start right away in much, much longer.</P>

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 11:57 AM
http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2010/04/18/10/201004181041384702855-p2-210x210.jpg

EWWWWWWWWW

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 11:58 AM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</p>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</p>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</p>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</p>


These are first round picks who started right away. There are soo many more. Lawrence Taylor Randy Moss Edgerrin James Carnell Williams Marshall Faulk Marcus Allen Barry Sanders Drew Bledsoe Just making an observation that rookies have started right away.</p>


Trust me my friend, the list of first rounders who didn't start right away in much, much longer.</p>

actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 11:58 AM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</p>


i love you.</p>


lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****

http://indiana.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/23/love_connection_gameshow_logo.jpg
</p>


we'll be back in 2 in 2!
http://www.kathylcarter.com/hosts/chuckWoolery/images/chuck_woolery_headshot.jpg</p>


</p>


alright, enough. ive already tried the gmb love connection once... thats enough for me... sorry dezzy, try hittin up HP?! lol </p>whoa whoa whoaa, i gave you a friendly compliment. if your going to tell that to anyone it should be pizz with all his chessy "flirting". sorry to throw you under the bus pizz. lol

lawl
04-29-2010, 11:59 AM
last time i checked there is a minimum of 5 OLineman, plus tight ends and fullbacks

and we run a 4-3, the 4 recognizing 4 DLineman

and in these cases most of the times, its a one on one matchup... not like in a 3-4 when a NT is suppose to take on blockers...

i wasn't the greatest at math, but im pretty sure there is somebody that is going to have the assignment of blocking a middle linebacker almost every play...

then again... not only is shedding the block important, but also makiing the right reads and being in position of respoinsibility... something Goff was brutal at and that Dillard's "sure tackler" label doesn't cover

and in reality we only have 3 possible options at MLB right now: Goff, GWilk, and Dillard.and none of them have played in Fewells defense
</P>


That's the point of having a great dline, if you leave any of our guys on the line in a 1on1 matchup they're expected to win it.</P>

lawl
04-29-2010, 12:00 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</P>


</P>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:02 PM
last time i checked there is a minimum of 5 OLineman, plus tight ends and fullbacks

and we run a 4-3, the 4 recognizing 4 DLineman

and in these cases most of the times, its a one on one matchup... not like in a 3-4 when a NT is suppose to take on blockers...

i wasn't the greatest at math, but im pretty sure there is somebody that is going to have the assignment of blocking a middle linebacker almost every play...

then again... not only is shedding the block important, but also makiing the right reads and being in position of respoinsibility... something Goff was brutal at and that Dillard's "sure tackler" label doesn't cover

and in reality we only have 3 possible options at MLB right now: Goff, GWilk, and Dillard.and none of them have played in Fewells defense
</p>


That's the point of having a great dline, if you leave any of our guys on the line in a 1on1 matchup they're expected to win it.</p>

so then why wouldn't we just do a 5 man line single backer and 5 DBs on every play?

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 12:03 PM
Derek Jeter (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3178),
behind Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and Joe DiMaggio, is being considered the
fourth-greatest Yankee, ahead of Mickey Mantle. The totals were compiled
by giving each player a score (1 to 10) in each of 11 categories and
tabulating the results. To keep things simple, we decided to save
pitchers for another day. With a score of 73.7, which reflects his huge
impact on the team's winning percentage since his arrival, Derek Jeter (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3178) took
the No. 4 spot, just ahead of Mr. Berra and -- in a sure surprise to
many -- Mickey Mantle. Despite his many accomplishments, Mantle also
benefitted from dumb luck.

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 12:03 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</P>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</P>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</P>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</P>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</P>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</P>


These are first round picks who started right away. There are soo many more. Randy Moss Edgerrin James Carnell Williams Marshall Faulk Marcus Allen Barry Sanders Drew Bledsoe Just making an observation that rookies have started right away.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2009.htm

27 of the 32 picks in the first round from last years draft played at least 10 games. 4 of the 5 picks didn't start 10 games because they were injured for the year. Eugene Monrmore even had some starts...

this totally contradicts any point u could say about not drafting for need

not u ny, referring to moorehead
</P>


OMG!. Now the standard is that they PLAY in a least ten games. I would expect every first round pick to play in every game.</P>


You were talking about "immediate impact". That means not only starting, but being a very good starter.</P>


Lets take a brief look at the Giants 1st round picks and how many of them started right away.</P>


Nicks-No</P>


KP-No</P>


Ross-No</P>


Kiwi-No (Kiwi did start later in the season because both Strahan and Osi were out for the year.</P>


Webby -early 2nd (no 1st round pick) -No</P>


Eli- No</P>


Willie Joe- No</P>


Finally we come to Shockey in 02. Yes...he started.</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 12:05 PM
And guess what, JPP won't start either.

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:06 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>

Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:07 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</p>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</p>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</p>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</p>


These are first round picks who started right away. There are soo many more. Randy Moss Edgerrin James Carnell Williams Marshall Faulk Marcus Allen Barry Sanders Drew Bledsoe Just making an observation that rookies have started right away.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2009.htm

27 of the 32 picks in the first round from last years draft played at least 10 games. 4 of the 5 picks didn't start 10 games because they were injured for the year. Eugene Monrmore even had some starts...

this totally contradicts any point u could say about not drafting for need

not u ny, referring to moorehead
</p>


OMG!. Now the standard is that they PLAY in a least ten games. I would expect every first round pick to play in every game.</p>


You were talking about "immediate impact". That means not only starting, but being a very good starter.</p>


Lets take a brief look at the Giants 1st round picks and how many of them started right away.</p>


Nicks-No</p>


KP-No</p>


Ross-No</p>


Kiwi-No (Kiwi did start later in the season because both Strahan and Osi were out for the year.</p>


Webby -early 2nd (no 1st round pick) -No</p>


Eli- No</p>


Willie Joe- No</p>


Finally we come to Shockey in 02. Yes...he started.</p>

who said start...

step in and contribute is what i want. Our past 4 first round picks were all starters by the end of the season

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 12:07 PM
Derek Jeter (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3178),
behind Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and Joe DiMaggio, is being considered the
fourth-greatest Yankee, ahead of Mickey Mantle. The totals were compiled
by giving each player a score (1 to 10) in each of 11 categories and
tabulating the results. To keep things simple, we decided to save
pitchers for another day. With a score of 73.7, which reflects his huge
impact on the team's winning percentage since his arrival, Derek Jeter (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3178) took
the No. 4 spot, just ahead of Mr. Berra and -- in a sure surprise to
many -- Mickey Mantle. Despite his many accomplishments, Mantle also
benefitted from dumb luck.no way. and i guess berra was ahead of the mick also? cause it say just ahead, yea no way.

ShockeyShow
04-29-2010, 12:07 PM
Matt, everything is going to end up OK with the LB situation.

As evidenced here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtJOzE1GJWw&amp;feature=related), all problems can be solved with a little competition

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:09 PM
Matt, everything is going to end up OK with the LB situation.

As evidenced here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtJOzE1GJWw&amp;feature=related), all problems can be solved with a little competition


lol i can't stream youtube at work

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 12:10 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</P>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</P>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</P>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</P>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</P>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</P>


These are first round picks who started right away. There are soo many more. Randy Moss Edgerrin James Carnell Williams Marshall Faulk Marcus Allen Barry Sanders Drew Bledsoe Just making an observation that rookies have started right away.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2009.htm

27 of the 32 picks in the first round from last years draft played at least 10 games. 4 of the 5 picks didn't start 10 games because they were injured for the year. Eugene Monrmore even had some starts...

this totally contradicts any point u could say about not drafting for need

not u ny, referring to moorehead
</P>


OMG!. Now the standard is that they PLAY in a least ten games. I would expect every first round pick to play in every game.</P>


You were talking about "immediate impact". That means not only starting, but being a very good starter.</P>


Lets take a brief look at the Giants 1st round picks and how many of them started right away.</P>


Nicks-No</P>


KP-No</P>


Ross-No</P>


Kiwi-No (Kiwi did start later in the season because both Strahan and Osi were out for the year.</P>


Webby -early 2nd (no 1st round pick) -No</P>


Eli- No</P>


Willie Joe- No</P>


Finally we come to Shockey in 02. Yes...he started.</P>




who said start...

step in and contribute is what i want. Our past 4 first round picks were all starters by the end of the season
</P>


Let me get this straight. The NEW MMB standard for "immediate impact" is being a really nice back-up. Every draft pick higher than a 5th rounder should "play" in every game.</P>


Whats next, that he has a pulse.?</P>

ibleedblue85
04-29-2010, 12:15 PM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</P>


i love you.</P>


lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****

http://indiana.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/23/love_connection_gameshow_logo.jpg
</P>


we'll be back in 2 in 2!
http://www.kathylcarter.com/hosts/chuckWoolery/images/chuck_woolery_headshot.jpg</P>


</P>


alright, enough. ive already tried the gmb love connection once... thats enough for me... sorry dezzy, try hittin up HP?! lol </P>


whoa whoa whoaa, i gave you a friendly compliment. if your going to tell that to anyone it should be pizz with all his chessy "flirting". sorry to throw you under the bus pizz. lol
</P>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/hello.jpg</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:17 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



</p>


As you must know, you sign FA's for immediate need. You draft to build a football team.</p>




but yet we drafted Dillard to fill a need

could u be anymore contradicting
</p>


I never said that we drafted Dillard to fill an "immediate need" There is no way they drafted him to start next year. That would be silly.</p>


We addressed a need at MLB with his pick. We will try to develop him over the next season or two to hopefully start. Once you draft a player, often even a first rounder, you still have to teach him your system and develop him as a player.</p>


Look at the history of first round picks in the NFL. How many start right out of the box? Not many.</p>


These are first round picks who started right away. There are soo many more. Randy Moss Edgerrin James Carnell Williams Marshall Faulk Marcus Allen Barry Sanders Drew Bledsoe Just making an observation that rookies have started right away.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2009.htm

27 of the 32 picks in the first round from last years draft played at least 10 games. 4 of the 5 picks didn't start 10 games because they were injured for the year. Eugene Monrmore even had some starts...

this totally contradicts any point u could say about not drafting for need

not u ny, referring to moorehead
</p>


OMG!. Now the standard is that they PLAY in a least ten games. I would expect every first round pick to play in every game.</p>


You were talking about "immediate impact". That means not only starting, but being a very good starter.</p>


Lets take a brief look at the Giants 1st round picks and how many of them started right away.</p>


Nicks-No</p>


KP-No</p>


Ross-No</p>


Kiwi-No (Kiwi did start later in the season because both Strahan and Osi were out for the year.</p>


Webby -early 2nd (no 1st round pick) -No</p>


Eli- No</p>


Willie Joe- No</p>


Finally we come to Shockey in 02. Yes...he started.</p>




who said start...

step in and contribute is what i want. Our past 4 first round picks were all starters by the end of the season
</p>


Let me get this straight. The NEW MMB standard for "immediate impact" is being a really nice back-up. Every draft pick higher than a 5th rounder should "play" in every game.</p>


Whats next, that he has a pulse.?</p>

having a player start by the end of the year as a rookie and still contributing before that is having an immediate impact.

Your first and second round picks are normally drafted for need and do normally see time in almost every game for hte most part. If they don't contribute they get labeled as busts.

lawl
04-29-2010, 12:18 PM
last time i checked there is a minimum of 5 OLineman, plus tight ends and fullbacks

and we run a 4-3, the 4 recognizing 4 DLineman

and in these cases most of the times, its a one on one matchup... not like in a 3-4 when a NT is suppose to take on blockers...

i wasn't the greatest at math, but im pretty sure there is somebody that is going to have the assignment of blocking a middle linebacker almost every play...

then again... not only is shedding the block important, but also makiing the right reads and being in position of respoinsibility... something Goff was brutal at and that Dillard's "sure tackler" label doesn't cover

and in reality we only have 3 possible options at MLB right now: Goff, GWilk, and Dillard.and none of them have played in Fewells defense
</P>


That's the point of having a great dline, if you leave any of our guys on the line in a 1on1 matchup they're expected to win it.</P>




so then why wouldn't we just do a 5 man line single backer and 5 DBs on every play?



</P>


</P>


Less versatility to adjust to what the offenseis doing.</P>

ShockeyShow
04-29-2010, 12:18 PM
Matt, everything is going to end up OK with the LB situation.

As evidenced here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtJOzE1GJWw&amp;feature=related), all problems can be solved with a little competition


lol i can't stream youtube at work



Good call....I forgot that these weren't office appropriate, hilarious though....i'm glad CBS didn't try to filter them

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:20 PM
last time i checked there is a minimum of 5 OLineman, plus tight ends and fullbacks

and we run a 4-3, the 4 recognizing 4 DLineman

and in these cases most of the times, its a one on one matchup... not like in a 3-4 when a NT is suppose to take on blockers...

i wasn't the greatest at math, but im pretty sure there is somebody that is going to have the assignment of blocking a middle linebacker almost every play...

then again... not only is shedding the block important, but also makiing the right reads and being in position of respoinsibility... something Goff was brutal at and that Dillard's "sure tackler" label doesn't cover

and in reality we only have 3 possible options at MLB right now: Goff, GWilk, and Dillard.and none of them have played in Fewells defense
</p>


That's the point of having a great dline, if you leave any of our guys on the line in a 1on1 matchup they're expected to win it.</p>




so then why wouldn't we just do a 5 man line single backer and 5 DBs on every play?



</p>


</p>


Less versatility to adjust to what the offenseis doing.</p>

yea but ur whole argument has been that LBers are overrated and its all about stopping the pass. The DLine shoudl stop the run...

I mean u'd have better pass coverage out there and a better pass rush... then u'd also have more true keys to stopping the run?

I don't see how ur less versatile just going by ur standards

lawl
04-29-2010, 12:20 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</P>


</P>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</P>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</P>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 12:20 PM
Matt, everything is going to end up OK with the LB situation.

As evidenced here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtJOzE1GJWw&amp;feature=related), all problems can be solved with a little competition
"dat aint your cake! thats saaaamones cake!"

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:22 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</p>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</p>

i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part

lawl
04-29-2010, 12:24 PM
last time i checked there is a minimum of 5 OLineman, plus tight ends and fullbacks

and we run a 4-3, the 4 recognizing 4 DLineman

and in these cases most of the times, its a one on one matchup... not like in a 3-4 when a NT is suppose to take on blockers...

i wasn't the greatest at math, but im pretty sure there is somebody that is going to have the assignment of blocking a middle linebacker almost every play...

then again... not only is shedding the block important, but also makiing the right reads and being in position of respoinsibility... something Goff was brutal at and that Dillard's "sure tackler" label doesn't cover

and in reality we only have 3 possible options at MLB right now: Goff, GWilk, and Dillard.and none of them have played in Fewells defense
</P>


That's the point of having a great dline, if you leave any of our guys on the line in a 1on1 matchup they're expected to win it.</P>




so then why wouldn't we just do a 5 man line single backer and 5 DBs on every play?



</P>


</P>


Less versatility to adjust to what the offenseis doing.</P>




yea but ur whole argument has been that LBers are overrated and its all about stopping the pass. The DLine shoudl stop the run...

I mean u'd have better pass coverage out there and a better pass rush... then u'd also have more true keys to stopping the run?

I don't see how ur less versatile just going by ur standards
</P>


Matchups. If they split out a TE or two then theres a big size disadvantage on a db. When has my argument been "its all about stopping the pass"? If you 4 down lineman can get to the QB without blitzing then you can drop 8 in the box all day.</P>


Honestly, I dont even know what your argument is, is it something like we shouldve wasted draft picks to move up to get McClain who many consider to be a 2down linebacker anyway?</P>

lawl
04-29-2010, 12:25 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</P>


</P>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</P>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</P>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</P>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</P>


Thats because you can get alot of Safeties WRs or DEs on the field at once, MLBs, not so much.</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 12:29 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>

Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


pretty sure everyone but ross didnt start the season they were drafted.

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 12:32 PM
morning gents! [:)]**** you
</p>


i love you.</p>


lol. whered you get that shirt?


i like your hair too, ya *****

http://indiana.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/23/love_connection_gameshow_logo.jpg
</p>


we'll be back in 2 in 2!
http://www.kathylcarter.com/hosts/chuckWoolery/images/chuck_woolery_headshot.jpg</p>


</p>


alright, enough. ive already tried the gmb love connection once... thats enough for me... sorry dezzy, try hittin up HP?! lol </p>


whoa whoa whoaa, i gave you a friendly compliment. if your going to tell that to anyone it should be pizz with all his chessy "flirting". sorry to throw you under the bus pizz. lol
</p>


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/hello.jpg</p>that means im right, right? hahaha

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 12:36 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</P>


</P>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</P>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</P>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</P>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</P>


Evidently you did.....that is until it was shown to you that few 1st round draft choices start when the season starts.</P>


Now your standards have changes for "immediate impact".</P>


I'm sorry Matt, I thought when you said <U>"immediate impact"</U> your meant that the impact would be <U>"immediate".</U></P>


Who knew?</P>

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 12:41 PM
wtf! I come back from lunch and I get thrown under the bus, by Dezz of all people?!?! THIS is what's wrong with the world!
I didn't even SAY anything!</P>


I hate you all</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:46 PM
last time i checked there is a minimum of 5 OLineman, plus tight ends and fullbacks

and we run a 4-3, the 4 recognizing 4 DLineman

and in these cases most of the times, its a one on one matchup... not like in a 3-4 when a NT is suppose to take on blockers...

i wasn't the greatest at math, but im pretty sure there is somebody that is going to have the assignment of blocking a middle linebacker almost every play...

then again... not only is shedding the block important, but also makiing the right reads and being in position of respoinsibility... something Goff was brutal at and that Dillard's "sure tackler" label doesn't cover

and in reality we only have 3 possible options at MLB right now: Goff, GWilk, and Dillard.and none of them have played in Fewells defense
</p>


That's the point of having a great dline, if you leave any of our guys on the line in a 1on1 matchup they're expected to win it.</p>




so then why wouldn't we just do a 5 man line single backer and 5 DBs on every play?



</p>


</p>


Less versatility to adjust to what the offenseis doing.</p>




yea but ur whole argument has been that LBers are overrated and its all about stopping the pass. The DLine shoudl stop the run...

I mean u'd have better pass coverage out there and a better pass rush... then u'd also have more true keys to stopping the run?

I don't see how ur less versatile just going by ur standards
</p>


Matchups. If they split out a TE or two then theres a big size disadvantage on a db. When has my argument been "its all about stopping the pass"? If you 4 down lineman can get to the QB without blitzing then you can drop 8 in the box all day.</p>


Honestly, I dont even know what your argument is, is it something like we shouldve wasted draft picks to move up to get McClain who many consider to be a 2down linebacker anyway?</p>

so ur telling me having a Boley or saftey cover a TE isn't better than Pierce or Sintim covering them?

MY argument is that im not satisfied with Goff and Dillard at LB, MLB is an important part of 4-3 defense, and we could of made some moves to bring in some real football players to play the spot

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:48 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</p>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</p>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</p>


Thats because you can get alot of Safeties WRs or DEs on the field at once, MLBs, not so much.</p>

and yet go look at the LBs that have been drafted and they fall right in line with the fact that they usually play right away. And we're talking pretty much EVERY pick in the first round the past coup[le of years was contributing to their teams right away. Regardless of position

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:53 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>

Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


pretty sure everyone but ross didnt start the season they were drafted.


they all prtetty much played in every game and all were starting by the end of their rookie year

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 12:56 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</p>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</p>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</p>


Evidently you did.....that is until it was shown to you that few 1st round draft choices start when the season starts.</p>


Now your standards have changes for "immediate impact".</p>


I'm sorry Matt, I thought when you said <u>"immediate impact"</u> your meant that the impact would be <u>"immediate".</u></p>


Who knew?</p>

contributing to every game and starting half of the rookie year would be an immediate impact moorehead...

now ur just being completely silly...

I guess Nicks had no immediate impact for us last year by ur theories

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 12:57 PM
The real problem with your argument Matt is this. You seem to think that drafting a guy in the first round means that he can step right in and fill a hole on a football team. When you combine that with the fact that we are talking about a guy who would be the "quarterback" of the defense at MLB, that is unrealistic. I know you can say that Patrick Willis is an exception, but he played on a lousy team, who could afford to make mistakes on the field. And I hate to tell you, but McClain is no Patrick Willis. Willis is far more athletic than McClain.</P>


The reality is that most prospects (and thats all any draft picks are) have to be developed. Rookies (especially MLB's) who make an "immediate inpact" on a team that is looking to win a superbowl are very, very rare.</P>


I wish that McClain had dropped to us. I told you before the draft that I doubted he would. I could see us moving up 3 or 4 spotsif he passed the first 9 or 10 to get him, but Oakland was way too early.</P>


You focus far too much on filling holes with the draft. Thats what free agency is for. You just can't pick a college football player and presume that he would come in, start on a good NFL team , and solve your problems.</P>


Thats just unrealistic.</P>


</P>

lawl
04-29-2010, 12:57 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</P>


</P>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</P>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</P>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</P>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</P>


Thats because you can get alot of Safeties WRs or DEs on the field at once, MLBs, not so much.</P>




and yet go look at the LBs that have been drafted and they fall right in line with the fact that they usually play right away. And we're talking pretty much EVERY pick in the first round the past coup[le of years was contributing to their teams right away. Regardless of position
</P>


Thats on other teams, not this team. The best example would be Sintim a high second round pick getting an extremely limited amount of snaps, even when he was healthy.</P>


Ok, so you wanted Morrison, have you even seen the guy play before? He's not all that much of an upgrade.</P>


Also, why do you insist the MLB spot is all important? The Eagles with their great pass rush and very good secondary the last couple years have had no problems playing a scrub at MLB.</P>


The best overall defenses last year were Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Colts, Cowboys, Bengals.</P>


The Ravens have Ray and i dont even know who next to him. The Vikings had Jasper Brinkley, a rookie, starting(5th round pick btw), Chargers have Cooper and idk. Colts have the tiniest MLB in the league in Gary Brackett, the Cowboys MLBs are nothing to write home about. And the Bengals MLB? lol....Whats the common theme on all of those teams listed? They all have a very good pass rush.</P>


Jordan fades back, shwoosh, and THAT'S THE GAME! ...
</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 12:58 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</P>


Lets talk about the Sox.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 01:00 PM
The real problem with your argument Matt is this. You seem to think that drafting a guy in the first round means that he can step right in and fill a hole on a football team. When you combine that with the fact that we are talking about a guy who would be the "quarterback" of the defense at MLB, that is unrealistic. I know you can say that Patrick Willis is an exception, but he played on a lousy team, who could afford to make mistakes on the field. And I hate to tell you, but McClain is no Patrick Willis. Willis is far more athletic than McClain.</p>


The reality is that most prospects (and thats all any draft picks are) have to be developed. Rookies (especially MLB's) who make an "immediate inpact" on a team that is looking to win a superbowl are very, very rare.</p>


I wish that McClain had dropped to us. I told you before the draft that I doubted he would. I could see us moving up 3 or 4 spots he he passed the first 9 or 10 to get him, but Oakland was way too early.</p>


You focus far too much on filling holes with the draft. Thats what free agency is for. You just can't pick a college football player and presume that he would come in, start on a good NFL team , and solve your problems.</p>


Thats just unrealistic.</p>


</p>

between McClain, Morrison, Washington, Lee, Spikes, and Weatherspoon, yes I do think they could of stepped in contributed.

False. The rate of drafting a MLB in the first couple of rounds in recent history has a VERY high success rate. So its not just Patrick Willis as the lone dog example.

When your not building anymore, which we really aren't - we are pretty much built, and you have one glaring need, yea call me crazy, i'm all for filling it. Via draft of FA. We've filled needs thru the draft with Eli, Ross, Phillips, and Nicks, so i dont get why u keep saying that we need to do it thru FA.

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:01 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</P>


Lets talk about the Sox.</P>


</P>


I'm wearing argyle socks today. thx for showing interest!</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:01 PM
wtf! I come back from lunch and I get thrown under the bus, by Dezz of all people?!?! THIS is what's wrong with the world!
I didn't even SAY anything!</p>


I hate you all
</p>[{]come here buuuddy.

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:02 PM
wtf! I come back from lunch and I get thrown under the bus, by Dezz of all people?!?! THIS is what's wrong with the world!
I didn't even SAY anything!</P>


I hate you all
</P>


[{]come here buuuddy.
</P>


lol</P>


"you wanna hug it out?? let's hug it out *****!"</P>


[}]</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 01:02 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</P>


Lets talk about the Sox.</P>


</P>


I'm wearing argyle socks today. thx for showing interest!</P>


</P>


In a twisted way, that does not surprise me.</P>

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 01:03 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</p>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</p>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</p>


Thats because you can get alot of Safeties WRs or DEs on the field at once, MLBs, not so much.</p>




and yet go look at the LBs that have been drafted and they fall right in line with the fact that they usually play right away. And we're talking pretty much EVERY pick in the first round the past coup[le of years was contributing to their teams right away. Regardless of position
</p>


Thats on other teams, not this team. The best example would be Sintim a high second round pick getting an extremely limited amount of snaps, even when he was healthy.</p>


Ok, so you wanted Morrison, have you even seen the guy play before? He's not all that much of an upgrade.</p>


Also, why do you insist the MLB spot is all important? The Eagles with their great pass rush and very good secondary the last couple years have had no problems playing a scrub at MLB.</p>


The best overall defenses last year were Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Colts, Cowboys, Bengals.</p>


The Ravens have Ray and i dont even know who next to him. The Vikings had Jasper Brinkley, a rookie, starting(5th round pick btw), Chargers have Cooper and idk. Colts have the tiniest MLB in the league in Gary Brackett, the Cowboys MLBs are nothing to write home about. And the Bengals MLB? lol....Whats the common theme on all of those teams listed? They all have a very good pass rush.</p>


Jordan fades back, shwoosh, and THAT'S THE GAME! ...
</p>
http://www.bestmichaeljordan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/michael-jordan-the-shot-1.jpg

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 01:03 PM
How about Jon Lester last night. Although that was pretty much a 2nd rate lineup. Sorry Bandy.

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:05 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</P>


Lets talk about the Sox.</P>


</P>


I'm wearing argyle socks today. thx for showing interest!</P>


</P>


In a twisted way, that does not surprise me.</P>


</P>


I work at a bank...have to look nice! although, i must say, i look more sexy than anything else...</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 01:07 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</P>


Lets talk about the Sox.</P>


</P>


I'm wearing argyle socks today. thx for showing interest!</P>


</P>


In a twisted way, that does not surprise me.</P>


</P>


I work at a bank...have to look nice! although, i must say, i look more sexy than anything else...</P>


</P>


I'm sure you do!</P>


http://www.patriciafield.com/ProductImages/lingerie/argyle_socks.jpg</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:08 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</p>


Lets talk about the Sox.</p>yea i really need to do my dirty laundry today

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 01:09 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</P>


Lets talk about the Sox.</P>


yea i really need to do my dirty laundry today
</P>


Are you having "bacon strip" issues?</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:09 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</p>


Lets talk about the Sox.</p>


</p>


I'm wearing argyle socks today. thx for showing interest!</p>ahh man your stole my thunder... from my joke. guess were even

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:10 PM
Morehead, why can't you just admit that I'm a handsome young man, with a magnetic personality? It's not gay to admit it, not that I would ever suggest a man like you were gay...YOU GET MY POINT!

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:10 PM
I stated my case calmly, with respect, and without sarcasm. Now I'm done with this issue with you.</p>


Lets talk about the Sox.</p>


yea i really need to do my dirty laundry today
</p>


Are you having "bacon strip" issues?</p>ehh, no i nut in my dirty sox when im done....you know[:)]

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 01:12 PM
Morehead, why can't you just admit that I'm a handsome young man, with a magnetic personality? It's not gay to admit it, not that I would ever suggest a man like you were gay...YOU GET MY POINT!</P>


If and when we ever meet, I will make my evaluation. Until then, you continue to get treated like a pleep, pledging to a frat.</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 01:15 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion that the coaching staff and FO looked at a lot of film from last year, and determined that our biggest problem on defense was the performance of the D line. Safety too but that was more an injury problem and we signed Rolle.

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:17 PM
Morehead, why can't you just admit that I'm a handsome young man, with a magnetic personality? It's not gay to admit it, not that I would ever suggest a man like you were gay...YOU GET MY POINT!</P>


If and when we ever meet, I will make my evaluation. Until then, you continue to get treated like a pleep, pledging to a frat.</P>


</P>


wtf?! what's a pleep!? and a frat?! i dont dress like a frat kid nor have I ever been in one! I declare shenanigans!
And meeting me in an inebriated state is no way to judge me! lol</P>

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 01:19 PM
You just wasted your 6000th post on Morehead.

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:20 PM
You just wasted your 6000th post on Morehead.
</P>


DAMMIT! oh well....if you really think about it, at LEAST 1000 posts were arguing with him, so i wouldnt necessarily call it a waste. lol</P>

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 01:21 PM
You just wasted your 6000th post on Morehead.
</P>


I resent that remark. It was a post well spent.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 01:23 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</p>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</p>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</p>


Thats because you can get alot of Safeties WRs or DEs on the field at once, MLBs, not so much.</p>




and yet go look at the LBs that have been drafted and they fall right in line with the fact that they usually play right away. And we're talking pretty much EVERY pick in the first round the past coup[le of years was contributing to their teams right away. Regardless of position
</p>


Thats on other teams, not this team. The best example would be Sintim a high second round pick getting an extremely limited amount of snaps, even when he was healthy.</p>


Ok, so you wanted Morrison, have you even seen the guy play before? He's not all that much of an upgrade.</p>


Also, why do you insist the MLB spot is all important? The Eagles with their great pass rush and very good secondary the last couple years have had no problems playing a scrub at MLB.</p>


The best overall defenses last year were Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Colts, Cowboys, Bengals.</p>


The Ravens have Ray and i dont even know who next to him. The Vikings had Jasper Brinkley, a rookie, starting(5th round pick btw), Chargers have Cooper and idk. Colts have the tiniest MLB in the league in Gary Brackett, the Cowboys MLBs are nothing to write home about. And the Bengals MLB? lol....Whats the common theme on all of those teams listed? They all have a very good pass rush.</p>


Jordan fades back, shwoosh, and THAT'S THE GAME! ...
</p>

Morrison is a blue collar hard nose player. I've probably seen more of him than you have. He is a bare bones guy and would of fit in lovely with this defenes..

Okay lets look at these teams... Ravens have Ray.. lol at what position. You could play a 3-3 defense with a guy like Ray... even at age 103 he still is all over the field.

Bracket is one of the smaler MLBs, but that still doesn't mean moving Boley to the middle is a good idea. Brackett is one of the best and up and coming MLBs in the game. Hes like a Vilma.

Great job bringing up brinkly... too bad the only reason he was starting was becuase EJ Henderson went down, who is a legit MLB. Also in those 4 games where Brinkly started, they lost 2 of them, matching their losses for the other 12 games of the season.

Bengals moved Dhani to middle backer but they dont even have that good of a line. Brooking and Bradie James are both legit.

but back to the reality of it, the top 5 defenses in the league were the Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Pats, and Colts

4 of those teams have 4 of the top MLBs in the game - Ray Lewis, EJ Henderson, JArod Mayo, and Brackett... so i actually think that u beat ur own point up


http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bci2Qa8xq28n/340x.jpg

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:25 PM
You just wasted your 6000th post on Morehead.
</P>


I resent that remark. It was a post well spent.</P>


</P>


dont worry, i defended your honor...lol read up</P>

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:27 PM
Hey Matt....howd those NFL jerseys end up lookin when you got em? I think im gonna buy the Eli one with the captain patch next time around.(and an LT jersey too prolly)
My 2 Yankees jerseys are SOOO LEGIT!!! Good quality stuff right there.

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 01:28 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</P>


</P>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</P>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</P>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</P>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</P>


Thats because you can get alot of Safeties WRs or DEs on the field at once, MLBs, not so much.</P>




and yet go look at the LBs that have been drafted and they fall right in line with the fact that they usually play right away. And we're talking pretty much EVERY pick in the first round the past coup[le of years was contributing to their teams right away. Regardless of position
</P>


Thats on other teams, not this team. The best example would be Sintim a high second round pick getting an extremely limited amount of snaps, even when he was healthy.</P>


Ok, so you wanted Morrison, have you even seen the guy play before? He's not all that much of an upgrade.</P>


Also, why do you insist the MLB spot is all important? The Eagles with their great pass rush and very good secondary the last couple years have had no problems playing a scrub at MLB.</P>


The best overall defenses last year were Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Colts, Cowboys, Bengals.</P>


The Ravens have Ray and i dont even know who next to him. The Vikings had Jasper Brinkley, a rookie, starting(5th round pick btw), Chargers have Cooper and idk. Colts have the tiniest MLB in the league in Gary Brackett, the Cowboys MLBs are nothing to write home about. And the Bengals MLB? lol....Whats the common theme on all of those teams listed? They all have a very good pass rush.</P>


Jordan fades back, shwoosh, and THAT'S THE GAME! ...
</P>




Morrison is a blue collar hard nose player. I've probably seen more of him than you have. He is a bare bones guy and would of fit in lovely with this defenes..

Okay lets look at these teams... Ravens have Ray.. lol at what position. You could play a 3-3 defense with a guy like Ray... even at age 103 he still is all over the field.

Bracket is one of the smaler MLBs, but that still doesn't mean moving Boley to the middle is a good idea. Brackett is one of the best and up and coming MLBs in the game. Hes like a Vilma.

Great job bringing up brinkly... too bad the only reason he was starting was becuase EJ Henderson went down, who is a legit MLB. Also in those 4 games where Brinkly started, they lost 2 of them, matching their losses for the other 12 games of the season.

Bengals moved Dhani to middle backer but they dont even have that good of a line. Brooking and Bradie James are both legit.

but back to the reality of it, the top 5 defenses in the league were the Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Pats, and Colts

4 of those teams have 4 of the top MLBs in the game - Ray Lewis, EJ Henderson, JArod Mayo, and Brackett... so i actually think that u beat ur own point up
</P>


Looks like Drew is out of him funk.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 01:29 PM
Hey Matt....howd those NFL jerseys end up lookin when you got em? I think im gonna buy the Eli one with the captain patch next time around.(and an LT jersey too prolly)
My 2 Yankees jerseys are SOOO LEGIT!!! Good quality stuff right there.


the old blue LT one, alot of people have complimented me on it, im not in love with it.

The new Giants jerseys are tight and i hate the giants white with red jersey, but i bought the strahan and i think its my fav jersey now. Its ****in FIIIIIREEE

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 01:31 PM
You just wasted your 6000th post on Morehead.
</p>


I resent that remark. It was a post well spent.</p>
Maybe wasted was the wrong word. I knew you would take find that distasteful.

At least he talked about how good looking he was...

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:32 PM
Hey Matt....howd those NFL jerseys end up lookin when you got em? I think im gonna buy the Eli one with the captain patch next time around.(and an LT jersey too prolly)
My 2 Yankees jerseys are SOOO LEGIT!!! Good quality stuff right there.


the old blue LT one, alot of people have complimented me on it, im not in love with it.

The new Giants jerseys are tight and i hate the giants white with red jersey, but i bought the strahan and i think its my fav jersey now. Its ****in FIIIIIREEE
</P>


you dont like the white jerseys? is that the strahan one you got?</P>


or do you mean you dont like the white jerseys in general?</P>


yea i dont really like the LT throwback looking ones too much...but no matter where you look, all the LT ones look the same, so its not like you have much choice lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 01:33 PM
Hey Matt....howd those NFL jerseys end up lookin when you got em? I think im gonna buy the Eli one with the captain patch next time around.(and an LT jersey too prolly)
My 2 Yankees jerseys are SOOO LEGIT!!! Good quality stuff right there.


the old blue LT one, alot of people have complimented me on it, im not in love with it.

The new Giants jerseys are tight and i hate the giants white with red jersey, but i bought the strahan and i think its my fav jersey now. Its ****in FIIIIIREEE
</p>


you dont like the white jerseys? is that the strahan one you got?</p>


or do you mean you dont like the white jerseys in general?</p>


yea i dont really like the LT throwback looking ones too much...but no matter where you look, all the LT ones look the same, so its not like you have much choice lol</p>

no i dont like them in general, but i got the strahan white one just cuz i felt i needed one and it turned out to be my favorite jersey ever. My buddy got a white Tuck and thats fire too

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:36 PM
word. maybe i should get the Eli and Strahan ones instead.

lawl
04-29-2010, 01:36 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</P>


</P>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</P>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</P>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</P>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</P>


Thats because you can get alot of Safeties WRs or DEs on the field at once, MLBs, not so much.</P>




and yet go look at the LBs that have been drafted and they fall right in line with the fact that they usually play right away. And we're talking pretty much EVERY pick in the first round the past coup[le of years was contributing to their teams right away. Regardless of position
</P>


Thats on other teams, not this team. The best example would be Sintim a high second round pick getting an extremely limited amount of snaps, even when he was healthy.</P>


Ok, so you wanted Morrison, have you even seen the guy play before? He's not all that much of an upgrade.</P>


Also, why do you insist the MLB spot is all important? The Eagles with their great pass rush and very good secondary the last couple years have had no problems playing a scrub at MLB.</P>


The best overall defenses last year were Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Colts, Cowboys, Bengals.</P>


The Ravens have Ray and i dont even know who next to him. The Vikings had Jasper Brinkley, a rookie, starting(5th round pick btw), Chargers have Cooper and idk. Colts have the tiniest MLB in the league in Gary Brackett, the Cowboys MLBs are nothing to write home about. And the Bengals MLB? lol....Whats the common theme on all of those teams listed? They all have a very good pass rush.</P>


Jordan fades back, shwoosh, and THAT'S THE GAME! ...
</P>




Morrison is a blue collar hard nose player. I've probably seen more of him than you have. He is a bare bones guy and would of fit in lovely with this defenes..

Okay lets look at these teams... Ravens have Ray.. lol at what position. You could play a 3-3 defense with a guy like Ray... even at age 103 he still is all over the field.

Bracket is one of the smaler MLBs, but that still doesn't mean moving Boley to the middle is a good idea. Brackett is one of the best and up and coming MLBs in the game. Hes like a Vilma.

Great job bringing up brinkly... too bad the only reason he was starting was becuase EJ Henderson went down, who is a legit MLB. Also in those 4 games where Brinkly started, they lost 2 of them, matching their losses for the other 12 games of the season.

Bengals moved Dhani to middle backer but they dont even have that good of a line. Brooking and Bradie James are both legit.

but back to the reality of it, the top 5 defenses in the league were the Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Pats, and Colts

4 of those teams have 4 of the top MLBs in the game - Ray Lewis, EJ Henderson, JArod Mayo, and Brackett... so i actually think that u beat ur own point up


http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bci2Qa8xq28n/340x.jpg
</P>


</P>


Mayo is in a 34 and had a nobody next to him, I conceded the Ravens already, Brackett is 30 years old, hardly "up and coming". Henderson has two seasons of 100+ tackles in a 7 yr career idk what**** you talking about with him, he's nothing special other than you know his name. Brooking and James are old and washed up, especially Brooking.</P>


Oh and uh as for Morrison, you said he would fit in great here when you dont even know our scheme, whereas our coaching staff and FO do know our scheme and have such built our team to suit it.</P>


Why is it that when you're wrong, you make up more stuff to make yourself even more wrong?</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:37 PM
word. maybe i should get the Eli and Strahan ones instead.i was thinking about a stra jersey. cant go wrong....

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:39 PM
would you 2 stop already. matt your wrong. well be fine. THE END

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:40 PM
Hey Matt....howd those NFL jerseys end up lookin when you got em? I think im gonna buy the Eli one with the captain patch next time around.(and an LT jersey too prolly)
My 2 Yankees jerseys are SOOO LEGIT!!! Good quality stuff right there.


the old blue LT one, alot of people have complimented me on it, im not in love with it.

The new Giants jerseys are tight and i hate the giants white with red jersey, but i bought the strahan and i think its my fav jersey now. Its ****in FIIIIIREEE
</p>


you dont like the white jerseys? is that the strahan one you got?</p>


or do you mean you dont like the white jerseys in general?</p>


yea i dont really like the LT throwback looking ones too much...but no matter where you look, all the LT ones look the same, so its not like you have much choice lol</p>

no i dont like them in general, but i got the strahan white one just cuz i felt i needed one and it turned out to be my favorite jersey ever. My buddy got a white Tuck and thats fire too
yea your high on the whites? i feel like id ruin it in a day

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:42 PM
Hey Matt....howd those NFL jerseys end up lookin when you got em? I think im gonna buy the Eli one with the captain patch next time around.(and an LT jersey too prolly)
My 2 Yankees jerseys are SOOO LEGIT!!! Good quality stuff right there.


the old blue LT one, alot of people have complimented me on it, im not in love with it.

The new Giants jerseys are tight and i hate the giants white with red jersey, but i bought the strahan and i think its my fav jersey now. Its ****in FIIIIIREEE
</P>


you dont like the white jerseys? is that the strahan one you got?</P>


or do you mean you dont like the white jerseys in general?</P>


yea i dont really like the LT throwback looking ones too much...but no matter where you look, all the LT ones look the same, so its not like you have much choice lol</P>




no i dont like them in general, but i got the strahan white one just cuz i felt i needed one and it turned out to be my favorite jersey ever. My buddy got a white Tuck and thats fire too
yea your high on the whites? i feel like id ruin it in a day
</P>


yea i thought so too....but i dont have any white jerseys, mine are all blue, and i got 1 red one....dunno what i was thinkin with that hahaha. it was free technically, so sall good! lol</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:47 PM
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/CC-Brown-SUCKS/271022614837?ref=pymk

lol. ahhh man he really was terrrrrrible.

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 01:51 PM
<div class="chunk">
<h6 style="float: left;">Brian (Providence)</h6>



Which series
are you more looking forward to; CLE/BOS or potential (and likely)
SAS/PHX?</p><h6 style="float: left;" class="sn">John Hollinger<div style="font-size: xx-small; display: inline; font-weight: normal;">(12:25
PM)</div></h6>



Spurs-Suns, absolutely. Not only because of
the history, but because I think the winner will be this year's Western
Conference champion.</p></div>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 01:53 PM
<div class="chunk">
<h6 style="float: left;">Brian (Providence)</h6>



Which series
are you more looking forward to; CLE/BOS or potential (and likely)
SAS/PHX?</p><h6 style="float: left;" class="sn">John Hollinger<div style="font-size: xx-small; display: inline; font-weight: normal;">(12:25
PM)</div></h6>



Spurs-Suns, absolutely. Not only because of
the history, but because I think the winner will be this year's Western
Conference champion.</p></div>come on lando the threads already dieing down.[:)]

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:56 PM
<DIV class=chunk>
<H6 style="FLOAT: left">Brian (Providence)</H6>




Which series are you more looking forward to; CLE/BOS or potential (and likely) SAS/PHX?</P>
<H6 class=sn style="FLOAT: left">John Hollinger
<DIV style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: xx-small">(12:25 PM)</DIV></H6>




Spurs-Suns, absolutely. Not only because of the history, but because I think the winner will be this year's Western Conference champion.</P></DIV>


</P>


dude, are the spurs even THAT good? Rate them out of 10.</P>


we arent talking about the Spurs of 3 years ago.</P>

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 01:56 PM
Why is it that when you're wrong, you make up more stuff to make yourself even more wrong?
I am sure he would be the first to admit he has a harder time conceding he was wrong than a woman.

It just won't happen...

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 01:57 PM
actually all i've looked at was 2009 and 2008 and ur theory couldn't be more wrong
</p>


</p>


No Giant 1st rd pick has started day1 under TC</p>




Nicks played in 14 games, Phillips played in 16 games, Ross played in 15 games, Kiwi played 16 games, Eli played in 9...


</p>


ok so that doesnt change the truth of what I said.</p>




i didn't see the day 1 part, but so what, they all were starting their rookie year.Who cares if it wasn't week 1... what matter does that make... they all still played week 1 for the most part
</p>


Thats because you can get alot of Safeties WRs or DEs on the field at once, MLBs, not so much.</p>




and yet go look at the LBs that have been drafted and they fall right in line with the fact that they usually play right away. And we're talking pretty much EVERY pick in the first round the past coup[le of years was contributing to their teams right away. Regardless of position
</p>


Thats on other teams, not this team. The best example would be Sintim a high second round pick getting an extremely limited amount of snaps, even when he was healthy.</p>


Ok, so you wanted Morrison, have you even seen the guy play before? He's not all that much of an upgrade.</p>


Also, why do you insist the MLB spot is all important? The Eagles with their great pass rush and very good secondary the last couple years have had no problems playing a scrub at MLB.</p>


The best overall defenses last year were Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Colts, Cowboys, Bengals.</p>


The Ravens have Ray and i dont even know who next to him. The Vikings had Jasper Brinkley, a rookie, starting(5th round pick btw), Chargers have Cooper and idk. Colts have the tiniest MLB in the league in Gary Brackett, the Cowboys MLBs are nothing to write home about. And the Bengals MLB? lol....Whats the common theme on all of those teams listed? They all have a very good pass rush.</p>


Jordan fades back, shwoosh, and THAT'S THE GAME! ...
</p>




Morrison is a blue collar hard nose player. I've probably seen more of him than you have. He is a bare bones guy and would of fit in lovely with this defenes..

Okay lets look at these teams... Ravens have Ray.. lol at what position. You could play a 3-3 defense with a guy like Ray... even at age 103 he still is all over the field.

Bracket is one of the smaler MLBs, but that still doesn't mean moving Boley to the middle is a good idea. Brackett is one of the best and up and coming MLBs in the game. Hes like a Vilma.

Great job bringing up brinkly... too bad the only reason he was starting was becuase EJ Henderson went down, who is a legit MLB. Also in those 4 games where Brinkly started, they lost 2 of them, matching their losses for the other 12 games of the season.

Bengals moved Dhani to middle backer but they dont even have that good of a line. Brooking and Bradie James are both legit.

but back to the reality of it, the top 5 defenses in the league were the Ravens, Vikings, Chargers, Pats, and Colts

4 of those teams have 4 of the top MLBs in the game - Ray Lewis, EJ Henderson, JArod Mayo, and Brackett... so i actually think that u beat ur own point up


http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bci2Qa8xq28n/340x.jpg
</p>


</p>


Mayo is in a 34 and had a nobody next to him, I conceded the Ravens already, Brackett is 30 years old, hardly "up and coming". Henderson has two seasons of 100+ tackles in a 7 yr career idk what**** you talking about with him, he's nothing special other than you know his name. Brooking and James are old and washed up, especially Brooking.</p>


Oh and uh as for Morrison, you said he would fit in great here when you dont even know our scheme, whereas our coaching staff and FO do know our scheme and have such built our team to suit it.</p>


Why is it that when you're wrong, you make up more stuff to make yourself even more wrong?</p>soo ur sayng BRackett and Henderson aren't two of the top MLBs in the league right now? Minny was in shambles about losing him, utrst me i was there to talk to the people of minny about it with blondie to back it up. Go get me a player as good as Henderson to play our defense and i would shut up about it.

Well they were beyond serviceable. Bradie James had a great year last year.

Apparently u know it all when it comes to Morrison and our defense. Its amazing how the rest of us know so little about it all and u know so much.

but what i dont get is why ur worked up about me mention the pats cuz they run a 3-4, when u mentioned Balt, Dallas , and SD who all run 3-4s lol u make no sense

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 01:58 PM
(504):
how much explaination does bbqsexapalooza need?

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 01:59 PM
<div class="chunk">
<h6 style="float: left;">Brian (Providence)</h6>




Which series are you more looking forward to; CLE/BOS or potential (and likely) SAS/PHX?</p>
<h6 class="sn" style="float: left;">John Hollinger
<div style="display: inline; font-weight: normal; font-size: xx-small;">(12:25 PM)</div></h6>




Spurs-Suns, absolutely. Not only because of the history, but because I think the winner will be this year's Western Conference champion.</p></div>


</p>


dude, are the spurs even THAT good? Rate them out of 10.</p>


we arent talking about the Spurs of 3 years ago.</p>
The way they are playing right now 8/10. Everyone is healthy except Manu's nose and Hill is killing it. The Mavs were the trendy pick to come out of the west and they are getting killed. SA better lock it down tonight. It would be a great series. I just don't see the Suns losing. LA vs PHX WCF's?

And STFU Dez, this post was directed to the person who responded to it....[A]

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 02:02 PM
Hey Matt....howd those NFL jerseys end up lookin when you got em? I think im gonna buy the Eli one with the captain patch next time around.(and an LT jersey too prolly)
My 2 Yankees jerseys are SOOO LEGIT!!! Good quality stuff right there.


the old blue LT one, alot of people have complimented me on it, im not in love with it.

The new Giants jerseys are tight and i hate the giants white with red jersey, but i bought the strahan and i think its my fav jersey now. Its ****in FIIIIIREEE
</p>


you dont like the white jerseys? is that the strahan one you got?</p>


or do you mean you dont like the white jerseys in general?</p>


yea i dont really like the LT throwback looking ones too much...but no matter where you look, all the LT ones look the same, so its not like you have much choice lol</p>

no i dont like them in general, but i got the strahan white one just cuz i felt i needed one and it turned out to be my favorite jersey ever. My buddy got a white Tuck and thats fire too
yea your high on the whites? i feel like id ruin it in a day


dude it came out looking soooo fresh

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 02:03 PM
But regarding this issue there is no right or wrong until when the season starts...

ibleedblue85
04-29-2010, 02:03 PM
im back...</P>


</P>


anyone hear anynews on henderson visit?!</P>

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 02:04 PM
<DIV class=chunk>
<H6 style="FLOAT: left">Brian (Providence)</H6>




Which series are you more looking forward to; CLE/BOS or potential (and likely) SAS/PHX?</P>
<H6 class=sn style="FLOAT: left">John Hollinger
<DIV style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: xx-small">(12:25 PM)</DIV></H6>




Spurs-Suns, absolutely. Not only because of the history, but because I think the winner will be this year's Western Conference champion.</P></DIV>


</P>


dude, are the spurs even THAT good? Rate them out of 10.</P>


we arent talking about the Spurs of 3 years ago.</P>



The way they are playing right now 8/10. Everyone is healthy except Manu's nose and Hill is killing it. The Mavs were the trendy pick to come out of the west and they are getting killed. SA better lock it down tonight. It would be a great series. I just don't see the Suns losing. LA vs PHX WCF's?

And STFU Dez, this post was directed to the person who responded to it....[A]
</P>


maybe i havent been paying close enough attention. I HONESTLY thought the recent play was a fluke on their part. Like....are the spurs winning, or are the mavs losing? that kinda thing...</P>


dont get me wrong....i respect the spurs. but i HATE them! And allbiased opinions aside, I cant think of 2 vets who deservea ring more than G.Hill and Nash</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 02:05 PM
Why is it that when you're wrong, you make up more stuff to make yourself even more wrong?
I am sure he would be the first to admit he has a harder time conceding he was wrong than a woman.

It just won't happen...


well quite frankly nobody is right until the season is played and we see how our MLB situation is and the effect the MLB position has...

4 of the top 5 defenses all had Legit MLBs (or ILBs) and the one team that didn't (SD) runs a 3-4 and they have the power in their outside LBers

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 02:06 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">RT @TheBlueScreen LB Gerris Wilkinson's
$1.176M tender is signed. Still waiting on Cofield and Hagan, but
they'll sign. No choice at this point. #NYG</h6>
Everyone hear that big bang? That was Matt's head hitting the desk

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 02:08 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">RT @TheBlueScreen LB Gerris Wilkinson's
$1.176M tender is signed. Still waiting on Cofield and Hagan, but
they'll sign. No choice at this point. #NYG</h6>
Everyone hear that big bang? That was Matt's head hitting the desk



na the big bang came when the Giants even offered him one....

this was in the bag, we knew he'd sign

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 02:09 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 02:11 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">RT @TheBlueScreen LB Gerris Wilkinson's
$1.176M tender is signed. Still waiting on Cofield and Hagan, but
they'll sign. No choice at this point. #NYG</h6>
Everyone hear that big bang? That was Matt's head hitting the desk



na the big bang came when the Giants even offered him one....

this was in the bag, we knew he'd sign

At least we have our MLB [;)]

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 02:12 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.

he needed a jersey to match hes headphones yo. and is that a purse hes carrying???

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 02:12 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">RT @TheBlueScreen LB Gerris Wilkinson's
$1.176M tender is signed. Still waiting on Cofield and Hagan, but
they'll sign. No choice at this point. #NYG</h6>
Everyone hear that big bang? That was Matt's head hitting the desk



na the big bang came when the Giants even offered him one....

this was in the bag, we knew he'd sign

At least we have our MLB [;)]


sign that u need help at LB:

people are looking forward to seeing GWilk get a shot at it

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 02:12 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">RT @TheBlueScreen LB Gerris Wilkinson's
$1.176M tender is signed. Still waiting on Cofield and Hagan, but
they'll sign. No choice at this point. #NYG</h6>
Everyone hear that big bang? That was Matt's head hitting the desk



na the big bang came when the Giants even offered him one....

this was in the bag, we knew he'd sign

At least we have our MLB [;)]


sign that u need help at LB:

people are looking forward to seeing GWilk get a shot at it

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 02:14 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.

he needed a jersey to match hes headphones yo. and is that a purse hes carrying???


yea but its a man purse, so its cool..

fa shizzle

**** that ******* hes a ******, i lost respect for him ever since i went othe club last week

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 02:15 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.

he needed a jersey to match hes headphones yo. and is that a purse hes carrying???


yea but its a man purse, so its cool..

fa shizzle

**** that ******* hes a ******, i lost respect for him ever since i went othe club last week
what he do?!

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 02:15 PM
he needed a jersey to match hes headphones yo. and is that a purse hes carrying???

Those are the D Will Skull Candy head phones. They are dope, they have quite a few different ones for specific players. I guess that bag is where he holds the QP. The sandles are killing me.

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 02:16 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.

he needed a jersey to match hes headphones yo. and is that a purse hes carrying???


yea but its a man purse, so its cool..

fa shizzle

**** that ******* hes a ******, i lost respect for him ever since i went othe club last week
what he do?!


it was promoted all night that he was gonna do a couple of songs. JA Rule did about 5 songs, Juelz did about 2 songs, then Snoop came in at 2:40, place closes at 3, sits on stage behind his entourage for 15 minutes, does half a song, puts the mike down n just sits...

***

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 02:17 PM
**** that ******* hes a ******, i lost respect for him ever since i went othe club last week

That was whack

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 02:21 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.

he needed a jersey to match hes headphones yo. and is that a purse hes carrying???


yea but its a man purse, so its cool..

fa shizzle

**** that ******* hes a ******, i lost respect for him ever since i went othe club last week
what he do?!


it was promoted all night that he was gonna do a couple of songs. JA Rule did about 5 songs, Juelz did about 2 songs, then Snoop came in at 2:40, place closes at 3, sits on stage behind his entourage for 15 minutes, does half a song, puts the mike down n just sits...

***
wtf? that ****ing lame man. you should of started a chant of some sorts.
damn lazy pot head.

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 02:21 PM
<div class="chunk">
<h6 style="float: left;">Brian (Providence)</h6>




Which series are you more looking forward to; CLE/BOS or potential (and likely) SAS/PHX?</p>
<h6 class="sn" style="float: left;">John Hollinger
<div style="display: inline; font-weight: normal; font-size: xx-small;">(12:25 PM)</div></h6>




Spurs-Suns, absolutely. Not only because of the history, but because I think the winner will be this year's Western Conference champion.</p></div>


</p>


dude, are the spurs even THAT good? Rate them out of 10.</p>


we arent talking about the Spurs of 3 years ago.</p>



The way they are playing right now 8/10. Everyone is healthy except Manu's nose and Hill is killing it. The Mavs were the trendy pick to come out of the west and they are getting killed. SA better lock it down tonight. It would be a great series. I just don't see the Suns losing. LA vs PHX WCF's?

And STFU Dez, this post was directed to the person who responded to it....[A]
</p>


maybe i havent been paying close enough attention. I HONESTLY thought the recent play was a fluke on their part. Like....are the spurs winning, or are the mavs losing? that kinda thing...</p>


dont get me wrong....i respect the spurs. but i HATE them! And allbiased opinions aside, I cant think of 2 vets who deservea ring more than G.Hill and Nash</p>
Nah man, the Spurs are shutting the Mavs down. They can't do **** it seems like. The half court offense is killing them.

I would agree with you on that. Especially Nash. I hated losing to the Celtics but for PP, KG and Jesus Shuttlesworth to get their rings was cool. Especially KG, I have always like him.

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 02:22 PM
damn lazy pot head.

There is no need to bash yourself Dezzzz

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 02:27 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.

he needed a jersey to match hes headphones yo. and is that a purse hes carrying???


yea but its a man purse, so its cool..

fa shizzle

**** that ******* hes a ******, i lost respect for him ever since i went othe club last week
what he do?!


it was promoted all night that he was gonna do a couple of songs. JA Rule did about 5 songs, Juelz did about 2 songs, then Snoop came in at 2:40, place closes at 3, sits on stage behind his entourage for 15 minutes, does half a song, puts the mike down n just sits...

***
wtf? that ****ing lame man. you should of started a chant of some sorts.
damn lazy pot head.


on a side note, the new "Girls next door" from the playboy bunny show were hosting the night. The twins? I dunno i never watch it anymore. OVVVERRRATTTEEDDD. Dude i can't believe these chicks were playboy girls. There was about 50 chicks in my area alone that i would of rather got with . and these girls were only like 18, whack

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 02:31 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.

he needed a jersey to match hes headphones yo. and is that a purse hes carrying???


yea but its a man purse, so its cool..

fa shizzle

**** that ******* hes a ******, i lost respect for him ever since i went othe club last week
what he do?!


it was promoted all night that he was gonna do a couple of songs. JA Rule did about 5 songs, Juelz did about 2 songs, then Snoop came in at 2:40, place closes at 3, sits on stage behind his entourage for 15 minutes, does half a song, puts the mike down n just sits...

***
wtf? that ****ing lame man. you should of started a chant of some sorts.
damn lazy pot head.


on a side note, the new "Girls next door" from the playboy bunny show were hosting the night. The twins? I dunno i never watch it anymore. OVVVERRRATTTEEDDD. Dude i can't believe these chicks were playboy girls. There was about 50 chicks in my area alone that i would of rather got with . and these girls were only like 18, whack
yea i know what you mean. didnt watch it a lot but even the original i thought there should of been hotter girls, its playboy for crying out loud. i wanted to punch kendra every time i saw her. just a raging stuuuuuupid ***** that thinks everything she says is funny. dont know how heff lived with all of them.

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 02:40 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...

byron
04-29-2010, 02:43 PM
</P>


</P>


<FONT size=6>Go Lakers!!</FONT></P>


</P>

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 02:45 PM
</P>


</P>


<FONT size=6>Go Lakers!!</FONT></P>


</P>


</P>


eww</P>

byron
04-29-2010, 02:49 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...
the thing about To Old..is he's into burning bridges rather than building them..the guy has a seriously ****ed up additude he just can't help himself....jmo

ny06
04-29-2010, 03:01 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...
the thing about To Old..is he's into burning bridges rather than building them..the guy has a seriously ****ed up additude he just can't help himself....jmo

I am suprised no one has giving him a shot yet. I guess the b.s with him and his drops are scaring teams away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/xq9ism.jpg

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 03:03 PM
</p>


</p>


<font color="#000000" size="6">Go Lakers!!</font></p>


</p>
http://tampafloridarealestate.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/smiley-face.jpg

ny06
04-29-2010, 03:04 PM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs354.snc3/29316_117225978299747_100000370359479_177264_36349 08_n.jpg

As you all know Snoop is a huge Lakers fan. Not sure how I feel about this. But D Will is a pimp so I will cut him some slack on this one.



Isnít snoop a steeler fan too?

Hmm Lakers and Steelers.

Let me guess he is a Yankee fan too

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 03:06 PM
Associated Press via ESPN.com
SEATTLE -- <FONT color=#225fb2>Cliff Lee</FONT> (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5353) has been through a season's worth of events for his new <FONT color=#225fb2>Seattle Mariners</FONT> (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea). And he hasn't even pitched in a game that counts yet.
Finally, the 2008 American League Cy Young Award winner gets his Mariners debut Friday night at Safeco Field.</P>


And finally, Seattle gets to unwrap its prized winter acquisition.</P>


Lee says he is fully recovered from a strained abdomen that has sidelined him since March 15.</P>


He says he's anxious for his first start since Game 5 of the World Series in early November, when he was a member of the <FONT color=#225fb2>Philadelphia Phillies</FONT> (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi) and helped beat the <FONT color=#225fb2>New York Yankees</FONT> (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy).</P>


Lee is scheduled to throw about 100 pitches
_____________________________</P>


uhh...were we watching the same world series? lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 03:16 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...
the thing about To Old..is he's into burning bridges rather than building them..the guy has a seriously ****ed up additude he just can't help himself....jmo

I am suprised no one has giving him a shot yet. I guess the b.s with him and his drops are scaring teams away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/xq9ism.jpg

he still had a decent year considering he was in Buffalo and there wa snobody to throw him the ball. He'll land somewhere... hes prolly asking for too much. Reality will set in eventually....

Darkhorse Miami Dolphins

ny06
04-29-2010, 03:19 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...
the thing about To Old..is he's into burning bridges rather than building them..the guy has a seriously ****ed up additude he just can't help himself....jmo

I am suprised no one has giving him a shot yet. I guess the b.s with him and his drops are scaring teams away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/xq9ism.jpg

he still had a decent year considering he was in Buffalo and there wa snobody to throw him the ball. He'll land somewhere... hes prolly asking for too much. Reality will set in eventually....

Darkhorse Miami Dolphins


He is still a good player; I think he really has to work on his drops. The past few seasons he has been at the top of the league in drop catches.

My dark horse is Cincy

You think Parcells would want TO when he couldnít even say his name when he was the Dallas coach?

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 03:24 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...
the thing about To Old..is he's into burning bridges rather than building them..the guy has a seriously ****ed up additude he just can't help himself....jmo

I am suprised no one has giving him a shot yet. I guess the b.s with him and his drops are scaring teams away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/xq9ism.jpg

he still had a decent year considering he was in Buffalo and there wa snobody to throw him the ball. He'll land somewhere... hes prolly asking for too much. Reality will set in eventually....

Darkhorse Miami Dolphins


He is still a good player; I think he really has to work on his drops. The past few seasons he has been at the top of the league in drop catches.

My dark horse is Cincy

You think Parcells would want TO when he couldnít even say his name when he was the Dallas coach?

parcells is silly sometimes...

like i said, darkhorse

i actually thought Pitt would be a possibility, San Fran, Texans, Oakland (never thought so before, but now that they go tCambpell), Chicago, or Minny

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 03:27 PM
Isnít snoop a steeler fan too?

Hmm Lakers and Steelers.

Let me guess he is a Yankee fan too
Yeah for sure about the Steelers, not sure who his baseball team is...

ny06
04-29-2010, 03:27 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...
the thing about To Old..is he's into burning bridges rather than building them..the guy has a seriously ****ed up additude he just can't help himself....jmo

I am suprised no one has giving him a shot yet. I guess the b.s with him and his drops are scaring teams away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/xq9ism.jpg

he still had a decent year considering he was in Buffalo and there wa snobody to throw him the ball. He'll land somewhere... hes prolly asking for too much. Reality will set in eventually....

Darkhorse Miami Dolphins


He is still a good player; I think he really has to work on his drops. The past few seasons he has been at the top of the league in drop catches.

My dark horse is Cincy

You think Parcells would want TO when he couldnít even say his name when he was the Dallas coach?

parcells is silly sometimes...

like* i said, darkhorse

i actually thought Pitt would be a possibility, San Fran, Texans, Oakland (never thought so before, but now that they go tCambpell), Chicago, or Minny


One of my favorite Parcells quotes was during a press conference and a reporter asked how Terry Glenn was doing (he was injured)

And Parcells says

"She is fine"

LOL

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 03:32 PM
Bill Simmons:

I can't fight it anymore. Deron Williams is officially the best point
guard alive. For the old "Independence Day" scenario in which aliens
land on earth and challenge us to a game of basketball for the future of
the universe, if we could only pick five guys, Williams, LeBron, Wade,
Howard and Melo would have to be the five.

(Well, unless
you're a Lakers fan. Then you'd pick LeBron, Bynum, Gasol, Kobe and
Jordan Farmar.)</p>


</p>Dude is so funny. He always has me cracking up.

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 03:37 PM
Bill Simmons:

I can't fight it anymore. Deron Williams is officially the best point guard alive. For the old "Independence Day" scenario in which aliens land on earth and challenge us to a game of basketball for the future of the universe, if we could only pick five guys, Williams, LeBron, Wade, Howard and Melo would have to be the five.


(Well, unless you're a Lakers fan. Then you'd pick LeBron, Bynum, Gasol, Kobe and Jordan Farmar.)</P>



</P>


Dude is so funny. He always has me cracking up.
</P>


id pick Nash....cuz if youre going to beat aliens....you have to have AT LEAST one white guy.</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 03:41 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...
the thing about To Old..is he's into burning bridges rather than building them..the guy has a seriously ****ed up additude he just can't help himself....jmo

I am suprised no one has giving him a shot yet. I guess the b.s with him and his drops are scaring teams away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/xq9ism.jpg

he still had a decent year considering he was in Buffalo and there wa snobody to throw him the ball. He'll land somewhere... hes prolly asking for too much. Reality will set in eventually....

Darkhorse Miami Dolphins


He is still a good player; I think he really has to work on his drops. The past few seasons he has been at the top of the league in drop catches.

My dark horse is Cincy

You think Parcells would want TO when he couldnít even say his name when he was the Dallas coach?

parcells is silly sometimes...

like i said, darkhorse

i actually thought Pitt would be a possibility, San Fran, Texans, Oakland (never thought so before, but now that they go tCambpell), Chicago, or Minny


One of my favorite Parcells quotes was during a press conference and a reporter asked how Terry Glenn was doing (he was injured)

And Parcells says

"She is fine"

LOLlol. hes brutally honest

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 03:46 PM
Bill Simmons:

I can't fight it anymore. Deron Williams is officially the best point guard alive. For the old "Independence Day" scenario in which aliens land on earth and challenge us to a game of basketball for the future of the universe, if we could only pick five guys, Williams, LeBron, Wade, Howard and Melo would have to be the five.


(Well, unless you're a Lakers fan. Then you'd pick LeBron, Bynum, Gasol, Kobe and Jordan Farmar.)</p>



</p>


Dude is so funny. He always has me cracking up.
</p>


id pick Nash....cuz if youre going to beat aliens....you have to have AT LEAST one white guy.</p>
He hates the Lakers and Giants so bad. He is so bias about it to. lol. I love it

ny06
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
guess the skins wont go after TO...
the thing about To Old..is he's into burning bridges rather than building them..the guy has a seriously ****ed up additude he just can't help himself....jmo

I am suprised no one has giving him a shot yet. I guess the b.s with him and his drops are scaring teams away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/xq9ism.jpg

he still had a decent year considering he was in Buffalo and there wa snobody to throw him the ball. He'll land somewhere... hes prolly asking for too much. Reality will set in eventually....

Darkhorse Miami Dolphins


He is still a good player; I think he really has to work on his drops. The past few seasons he has been at the top of the league in drop catches.

My dark horse is Cincy

You think Parcells would want TO when he couldnít even say his name when he was the Dallas coach?

parcells is silly sometimes...

like* i said, darkhorse

i actually thought Pitt would be a possibility, San Fran, Texans, Oakland (never thought so before, but now that they go tCambpell), Chicago, or Minny


One of my favorite Parcells quotes was during a press conference and a reporter asked how Terry Glenn was doing (he was injured)

And Parcells says

"She is fine"

LOLlol. hes brutally honest


lol yes he is.

Fav coach

JPizzack
04-29-2010, 03:48 PM
Bill Simmons:

I can't fight it anymore. Deron Williams is officially the best point guard alive. For the old "Independence Day" scenario in which aliens land on earth and challenge us to a game of basketball for the future of the universe, if we could only pick five guys, Williams, LeBron, Wade, Howard and Melo would have to be the five.


(Well, unless you're a Lakers fan. Then you'd pick LeBron, Bynum, Gasol, Kobe and Jordan Farmar.)</P>



</P>


Dude is so funny. He always has me cracking up.
</P>


id pick Nash....cuz if youre going to beat aliens....you have to have AT LEAST one white guy.</P>



He hates the Lakers and Giants so bad. He is so bias about it to. lol. I love it
</P>


haha yea i love his reads...
What i do sometimes, is i wont read page 2 for like 2 months, and then save it for a rainy day and read everything at once lol</P>

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 04:06 PM
The draft is over and now the New York Giants (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg)'
2010 season can officially begin.</p>



The first step toward moving on and getting over last year's 8-8
debacle starts Friday, when the Giants open a two-day rookie minicamp.</p>

While
the camp will only be made up of rookies, journeymen players looking
for a break and longshots, the Giants' staff will get its first look at
the seven draft picks taken last weekend. Sending a clear message the
Giants will not tolerate another lackluster defensive effort like last
season's, general manager Jerry Reese went almost exclusively for
defense in the draft, using five of his seven selections on defensive
players.</p><div class="mod-inline image image-right"><div style="margin-left: 10px; width: 203px;">http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0429/ny_a_reesej_203.jpg<div style="width: 203px;"><cite>AP Photo/Bill Kostroun</cite>Giants GM Jerry Reese went
big on defense with this rookie class.</div></div></div>

The
jewel of Reese's draft is first-round pick <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13256">Jason
Pierre-Paul</a>. The 6-foot-5, 270-pounder from South Florida gets his
first chance to show he's worthy of being selected 15th overall. Reese
invested in the athletic defensive end to improve the G-Men's pass rush.</p>

<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/columns/story?id=5130738">Pierre-Paul
is raw.</a> He played just one full season of football on the major
college level after two years of junior college ball. Kevin Patrick,
Pierre-Paul's defensive line coach at South Florida, said the defensive
end has yet to go through a full offseason training program and should
really grow under the guidance of the Giants' coaches and trainers.</p>

When
all eyes aren't on Pierre-Paul, fourth-round pick <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13354">Phillip
Dillard</a> will be under the microscope. The Nebraska fifth-year
senior is the only middle linebacker the Giants drafted. After watching
top middle linebacker target <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13255">Rolando
McClain</a> go to the Raiders at the eighth pick, the Giants waited
until the fourth round to take Dillard. They like him enough to feel he
can compete for <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2842">Antonio
Pierce</a>'s old job. If the Giants are going to be successful this
season, they must find someone to replace Pierce.</p>

Five
things to look for at the minicamp:</p>

ARE YOU DOWN WITH
JPP?: The Giants hope Pierre-Paul is not only worth the 15th pick,
but truly is the player with the most upside in the entire draft.</p>

ROOKIE
IN THE MIDDLE: Dillard gets the chance to put his name into the mix
for Pierce's old spot this weekend.</p>

THE ANCHOR: The
Giants' second-round pick, East Carolina's 6-4, 319-pound defensive
tackle <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13281">Linval
Joseph</a>, could be in the mix more than Pierre-Paul. Perhaps it's no
coincidence that according to one report, the Giants discussed trading <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9710">Barry
Cofield</a> to the Saints for a second-day pick before a deal fell
apart.</p>

DODGE BALL: Let the competition begin to see
who will replace punter <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=26">Jeff
Feagles</a>. Seventh-round pick <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13356">Matt
Dodge</a>, also from East Carolina, will begin to battle Australian
Rules football player <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12608">Jy
Bond</a> starting this weekend.</p>

33 IS THE NEW 22:.
There will be a 33-year-old rookie among all theplayers at minicamp.
Ball State defensive end <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/26001/brandon-crawford">Brandon
Crawford</a> didn't begin his college career until after he was
honorably discharged from the Marines.</p>

bandwgn86
04-29-2010, 04:09 PM
Bill Simmons:

I can't fight it anymore. Deron Williams is officially the best point guard alive. For the old "Independence Day" scenario in which aliens land on earth and challenge us to a game of basketball for the future of the universe, if we could only pick five guys, Williams, LeBron, Wade, Howard and Melo would have to be the five.


(Well, unless you're a Lakers fan. Then you'd pick LeBron, Bynum, Gasol, Kobe and Jordan Farmar.)</P>



</P>


Dude is so funny. He always has me cracking up.
</P>


id pick Nash....cuz if youre going to beat aliens....you have to have AT LEAST one white guy.</P>Nash for sure.. he's almost Alien..

bandwgn86
04-29-2010, 04:10 PM
afternoon folks..

ny06
04-29-2010, 04:11 PM
Speaking of aliens

Sam Cassell

http://i44.tinypic.com/t5t0l0.gif

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 04:17 PM
Speaking of aliens

Sam Cassell

http://i44.tinypic.com/t5t0l0.gif
lmao.

theyre real though.

bigblue4417
04-29-2010, 04:18 PM
Speaking of aliens

Sam Cassell

http://i44.tinypic.com/t5t0l0.gif
http://thefrontcourt.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/personal-trainer.jpg
http://fantastiksports.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/sammy-cassell.jpg

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 04:19 PM
afternoon folks..goooooooooo awaayyy

bandwgn86
04-29-2010, 04:20 PM
afternoon folks..goooooooooo awaayyy
k. see yah

patsrule666
04-29-2010, 04:21 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



I think our 4th round pick from Bristol, Ct.can and probably will make a immediate impact.

patsrule666
04-29-2010, 04:23 PM
afternoon folks..goooooooooo awaayyy
Now that wasnt very nice...

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 04:30 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>


your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



I think our 4th round pick from Bristol, Ct.can and probably will make a immediate impact.

are you relying on that?

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 04:31 PM
afternoon folks..goooooooooo awaayyy
k. see yahlol you know im joking. que paaaasssaaaaaaa??????

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 04:33 PM
ROOKIE
IN THE MIDDLE: Dillard gets the chance to put his name into the mix
for Pierce's old spot this weekend.</p>

how can anybody read that and be satisfied?

patsrule666
04-29-2010, 04:33 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



I think our 4th round pick from Bristol, Ct.can and probably will make a immediate impact.

are you relying on that?
That and our first pick in the 2nd round....lol.</P>


I really got no choice..Option 3 is Crumpler...</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 04:35 PM
afternoon folks..goooooooooo awaayyy
k. see yah

dont let either of the ZZZ brothers discourage you.

We like u more than we like them... considering ur canadian, that says alot

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 04:36 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



I think our 4th round pick from Bristol, Ct.can and probably will make a immediate impact.

are you relying on that?
That and our first pick in the 2nd round....lol.</p>


I really got no choice..Option 3 is Crumpler...</p>

i think ur gonna be relying on ur 2nd rounder more so than ur 4th rounder

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 04:38 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



I think our 4th round pick from Bristol, Ct.can and probably will make a immediate impact.</P>


Hernandez was a great pick for the Pats. I thought he would go sooner. My office is the next town over, in Southington.</P>


This was an unbelievably deep draft. Thats probably why the Giants weren't big on moving up.</P>

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 04:40 PM
afternoon folks..goooooooooo awaayyy
k. see yah

dont let either of the ZZZ brothers discourage you.

We like u more than we like them... considering ur canadian, that says alot
who the hells we you ****ing skitzo

Morehead State
04-29-2010, 04:40 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</P>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</P>


Have fun .</P>


</P>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</P>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</P>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</P>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</P>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</P>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</P>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</P>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</P>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</P>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</P>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</P>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</P>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</P>


AP was undrafted.</P>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </P>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



I think our 4th round pick from Bristol, Ct.can and probably will make a immediate impact.

are you relying on that?
That and our first pick in the 2nd round....lol.</P>


I really got no choice..Option 3 is Crumpler...</P>




i think ur gonna be relying on ur 2nd rounder more so than ur 4th rounder
</P>


Matt, have you EVER used a guy as an avatar that ever ended up with the Giants.</P>


I remember Braylon, then McClain, now Henderson. You are jinxing all these guys. </P>


And lets not get into your jinxing of Eli.</P>

patsrule666
04-29-2010, 04:41 PM
Matt- From what i have been able to read about Dillard, you guys might have gotten a steal there.</P>


I really dont know too much about the guys you have starting now to give a credible opinion.</P>

patsrule666
04-29-2010, 04:45 PM
MH-I agree on the quality of young players that were still there into the later rounds.</P>


The 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds still had quality players...imo.</P>

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 04:48 PM
afternoon folks..goooooooooo awaayyy
k. see yah

dont let either of the ZZZ brothers discourage you.

We like u more than we like them... considering ur canadian, that says alot
who the hells we you ****ing skitzo


lol me larry and bob

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 04:49 PM
Matt- From what i have been able to read about Dillard, you guys might have gotten a steal there.</p>


I really dont know too much about the guys you have starting now to give a credible opinion.</p>

if he is , thank god. Im just not gonna pin my hopes on a 4th round pick thats had injury problems

MattMeyerBud
04-29-2010, 04:50 PM
Bring on the Broad Street Bullies.........</p>


I have to go deal with Government personel today..</p>


Have fun .</p>


</p>


We all long for the days of Dave Schultze and Bobby Clarke.</p>




will the real pappy please stand up?

Or is this Mike Franken?
</p>


Daven's been agreeing with you a lot lately.</p>




thats because u've officially been taking his place with quality of posts..

so i feel confident if u oppose me, im right now in the current. Daven can't be daven anymore cuz ur doin it for him...

best line of the day from u yesterday was that we addressed our need at MLB in the 4th round, when the day before u were arguing that u dont address needs in the draft when we were talking about what we could of done with the first rounder..

u were baffling
</p>


TC said in his press conference that they addressed MLB needs in the 4th round.</p>


Addressing needs isn't the same as eliminateing needs. They do the best they can with the draft as it unfolds.</p>


And I completely reject your notion that drafting in round four is simple an attempt to find "steals".</p>


Football teams are built in great measure by later round picks.</p>




ur kidding yourself if u believe that.

Nobody is banking on their 4th round picks.
</p>


Lets look at our O line. It was considered the best O line in the NFL in 2008.</p>


Deihl- 5th round. Siebert-undrafted Ohara- undrafted Snee- 2nd round McKenzie- 3rd round</p>


How about our starting running backs. a 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.</p>


The only 1 st rounder on our D line was Kiwi. Tuck was a third, as was Cofield, Osi was a 2nd.</p>


AP was undrafted.</p>


If you don't count on late round picks, you have no football team. </p>





your being very ignorant. You have to have hits in those rounds to be good.

But out of all of those guys how many of those people were drafted for an immediate need? How many of them had an immediate impact?



I think our 4th round pick from Bristol, Ct.can and probably will make a immediate impact.

are you relying on that?
That and our first pick in the 2nd round....lol.</p>


I really got no choice..Option 3 is Crumpler...</p>




i think ur gonna be relying on ur 2nd rounder more so than ur 4th rounder
</p>


Matt, have you EVER used a guy as an avatar that ever ended up with the Giants.</p>


I remember Braylon, then McClain, now Henderson. You are jinxing all these guys. </p>


And lets not get into your jinxing of Eli.</p>

Plax and Lavarr! *****!!!

And on a side note, again that was blondie.

dezzzR
04-29-2010, 04:53 PM
afternoon folks..goooooooooo awaayyy
k. see yah

dont let either of the ZZZ brothers discourage you.

We like u more than we like them... considering ur canadian, that says alot
who the hells we you ****ing skitzo


lol me larry and bob
lol

yo can you get me a pettitte away jersey, no last name on the back?