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JPizzack
05-03-2010, 04:44 PM
Whats good everyone!?!?!?!?

Anything go down this weekend???


Oh yea Happy B-Day Dezzy, dont get too drunk on Fuzzy Navel Boone's Farm or Cisco, LOL
</P>


haha forgot about that! HAPPY BDAY DEZZ!!</P>


Kase, I made reference to you a few pages back....you'll appareciate it. LOL</P>

Kase-1
05-03-2010, 04:54 PM
should of went up to her and told her how great she sounded</p>


i gave her the good ole standing O......not the O face...just the standing O [;)]</p>


</p>

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:QSaRzSFaC2773M:http://veganfreakradio.com/o-face.jpg (/imgres?imgurl=http://veganfreakradio.com/o-face.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://veganfreakradio.com/podcast.php&amp;usg=__wC2cGYR3VIr9WnGOeSwptocD1EA=&amp;h=3 36&amp;w=309&amp;sz=19&amp;hl=en&amp;start=1&amp;um=1&amp;itbs=1&amp;tbnid=QSa RzSFaC2773M:&amp;tbnh=119&amp;tbnw=109&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Do%2Bface%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN% 26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7PCTA_en%26tbs%3Disch:1)

Kase-1
05-03-2010, 04:55 PM
Whats good everyone!?!?!?!?

Anything go down this weekend???


Oh yea Happy B-Day Dezzy, dont get too drunk on Fuzzy Navel Boone's Farm or Cisco, LOL
</p>


haha forgot about that! HAPPY BDAY DEZZ!!</p>


Kase, I made reference to you a few pages back....you'll appareciate it. LOL</p>LOL, yea I saw that..... quite funny, LOL

JPizzack
05-03-2010, 05:06 PM
cavitelli and meat sauce at moms house tonight!! WOOOOHOO! thx mom ahahah
I love when she calls to see if i wanna come over for dinner....OF COURSE! i love free food! lol

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 05:11 PM
http://www.nationalsportsbeat.com/images/logos/nhl/Montreal_Canadiens.jpg

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 05:12 PM
That one went over my head lol
LOL

It's all good. I don't want to upset you. You just started being somewhat nice about Kobe. lol j/k

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 05:13 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs527.ash1/30972_123648590982705_100000126943668_328221_50528 2_n.jpg

JPizzack
05-03-2010, 05:17 PM
I'm bored........need to get out of this place....

Kase-1
05-03-2010, 05:18 PM
http://www.nationalsportsbeat.com/images/logos/nhl/Montreal_Canadiens.jpg
LES HABS LES HABS LES HABS!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09sSLLDjaUI&amp;feature=related)



WOW, French Canada really IS a different country, LOL

JPizzack
05-03-2010, 05:37 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the entire circumference is walled in. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lol

dezzzR
05-03-2010, 05:41 PM
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/mand8201/dezzy.giflol thanks amanda.
thank you everybody

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 05:47 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the <FONT color=#0000ff>entire circumference is walled in</FONT>. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lolthe rest of Canada has been waiting on a really really bad rainstorm..</P>


afternoon folks</P>

Kase-1
05-03-2010, 05:48 PM
I know MMB will like this...

The Giants feel Petrus has to translate some of his immense upper-body
strength to anchor his lower body, but they love what general manager<a href="http://www.nypost.com/t/Jerry_Reese" class="topiclink"> Jerry
Reese </a>described as a "vicious nature."

"You're not going to see me
get in any fights or anything," Petrus said, before quickly adding "I'm
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</div>
EXCELLENT.....
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EXCELLENTE!!!!
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dezzzR
05-03-2010, 05:49 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the entire circumference is walled in. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lollol iv been to niagara falls. very pretty..this story is over.

Kase-1
05-03-2010, 05:50 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the <font color="#0000ff">entire circumference is walled in</font>. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lolthe rest of Canada has been waiting on a really really bad rainstorm..</p>


afternoon folks</p>Que Paso My favorite Canadian!?!?!?

Whats your feelings on 'The OTHER Canada", and since English and French are the national languages do you guys have to learn it in school or is that only in Quebec??

JPizzack
05-03-2010, 05:55 PM
Why do kids scream when they cry? What is in our DNA that says....you HAVE to SCREAM at the highest ****ing decibal when you hurt your hand? lol
This child in the office next to me hit his head on the desk, screamed deafeningly loud for 30 seconds, and then stopped and held a conversation with his mother immediately after. I think I hate kids....more and more everyday lol.

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 05:56 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the <FONT color=#0000ff>entire circumference is walled in</FONT>. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lolthe rest of Canada has been waiting on a really really bad rainstorm..</P>


afternoon folks</P>Que Paso My favorite Canadian!?!?!?

Whats your feelings on 'The OTHER Canada", and since English and French are the national languages do you guys have to learn it in school or is that only in Quebec??
yah its mandatory.. but for some odd reason all the french teachers are very attractive ladies.. so its a wash

Kase-1
05-03-2010, 06:02 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the <font color="#0000ff">entire circumference is walled in</font>. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lolthe rest of Canada has been waiting on a really really bad rainstorm..</p>


afternoon folks</p>Que Paso My favorite Canadian!?!?!?

Whats your feelings on 'The OTHER Canada", and since English and French are the national languages do you guys have to learn it in school or is that only in Quebec??
yah its mandatory.. but for some odd reason all the french teachers are very attractive ladies.. so its a washWOw, I never pictured EVERY Canadian to be fluent in french

So do you guys in 'Regular Canada' look down upon Quebec and other provinces (right?) like we look down upon 'The South' in the USA???

JPizzack
05-03-2010, 06:12 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the <FONT color=#0000ff>entire circumference is walled in</FONT>. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lolthe rest of Canada has been waiting on a really really bad rainstorm..</P>


afternoon folks</P>


Que Paso My favorite Canadian!?!?!?

Whats your feelings on 'The OTHER Canada", and since English and French are the national languages do you guys have to learn it in school or is that only in Quebec??
yah its mandatory.. but for some odd reason all the french teachers are very attractive ladies.. so its a washWOw, I never pictured EVERY Canadian to be fluent in french

So do you guys in 'Regular Canada' look down upon Quebec and other provinces (right?) like we look down upon 'The South' in the USA???
</P>


haha cmon Kase...be fair :
We look down upon the RURAL South here in the States.
I, for example....hate hicks and rednecks....but I can't ever get enough of Athens, GA and Atlanta....</P>

Kase-1
05-03-2010, 06:19 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the <font color="#0000ff">entire circumference is walled in</font>. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lolthe rest of Canada has been waiting on a really really bad rainstorm..</p>


afternoon folks</p>


Que Paso My favorite Canadian!?!?!?

Whats your feelings on 'The OTHER Canada", and since English and French are the national languages do you guys have to learn it in school or is that only in Quebec??
yah its mandatory.. but for some odd reason all the french teachers are very attractive ladies.. so its a washWOw, I never pictured EVERY Canadian to be fluent in french

So do you guys in 'Regular Canada' look down upon Quebec and other provinces (right?) like we look down upon 'The South' in the USA???
</p>


haha cmon Kase...be fair :
We look down upon the RURAL South here in the States.
I, for example....hate hicks and rednecks....but I can't ever get enough of Athens, GA and Atlanta....</p>Ehhh I wouldnt go that far, even their 'cities' are bass ackwards then again we look down upon them as much as they look down upon us..... Its actually kinda funny. They think calling someone a 'Yankee' is a bad thing, but we think calling someone a 'Redneck' is derogatory, yet Jeff Foxworthy made thousands off of their 'Redneck Pride' and us Tri-Staters have TREMENDOUS Pride in where we're from so its interesting

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 06:27 PM
2 WOMEN...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs572.snc3/31225_389222762829_548337829_4014701_6662489_n.jpg

JPizzack
05-03-2010, 06:28 PM
You know what a funny example would be?
Myrtle Beach, SC</P>


The locals down there HATE "Northerners" as they call them. They have 2 types of outcasts....Northerners, and New Yorkers. Oddly enough there are a HUGE population of NYers down there lol. Anyway....what they fail to see is that "Northerners" turned a ****ty town like Myrtle Beach into a goddamn GOLD MINE. When youre infrastructure is based purely on tourism, maybe you should stfu, or move. lol</P>


check this place out.... http://www.marketcommonmb.com/

Market Commons is basically a town WITHIN a town....it's actually kinda creepy.
You turn off 17 onto this random road with brand new blacktop, and palm trees...and then after a mile or so youre in this....uhh COMMUNE! lol...ok not really...but its like these city-block-looking buildings, with apartments above them ,shops, bars and restuarants on the goround levels. its SO WEIRD. It's like literally a seperate town! Well...the palce went bankrupt before they ever finished it lol....i blame the fact that Ben Roethlisberger owns a bar in the place haha</P>

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 06:32 PM
We all know Bandy prefers the one on the left

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 06:34 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the <FONT color=#0000ff>entire circumference is walled in</FONT>. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lolthe rest of Canada has been waiting on a really really bad rainstorm..</P>


afternoon folks</P>Que Paso My favorite Canadian!?!?!?

Whats your feelings on 'The OTHER Canada", and since English and French are the national languages do you guys have to learn it in school or is that only in Quebec??
yah its mandatory.. but for some odd reason all the french teachers are very attractive ladies.. so its a washWOw, I never pictured EVERY Canadian to be fluent in french

So do you guys in 'Regular Canada' look down upon Quebec and other provinces (right?) like we look down upon 'The South' in the USA???
i didn't say we paid attention lol

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 06:35 PM
We all know Bandy prefers the one on the left
your left or my left..

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 06:36 PM
Now, less than 48 hours after Mayweather's victory, Pacquiao seems
to be in a compromising mood in order to make a fight for which
official negotiations have not yet begun.</p>

"I am willing to help
the sport for the future of the sport. I do not want to see anyone
cheat or cheat this sport. For that reason I am willing to consider
taking blood [tests] as close as 14 days prior to the fight, as long as
my opponent does the same, and it is not a lot of blood, just enough to
test," Pacquiao is quoted as saying on his official website.</p>

Mayweather has no issue undergoing the same kind of testing as his opponent.</p>

During
the previous negotiation, Pacquiao had insisted on a cut off of blood
testing 30 days before the fight and eventually moved to 24 days when
it came to light that he had taken a blood test during that time frame
before his second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton in May 2009.</p>

Pacquiao had agreed all along to take a blood test immediately after the fight. </p>

"I
do not want anyone having an unfair advantage where someone may get
hurt," said Pacquiao, who is in the final days of his congressional
campaign in the Philippines. "I am willing to do my part to help this
sport out."</p>

Pacquiao had said previously he did not want to have blood drawn too close to the fight because he feels like it weakens him.</p>

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 06:36 PM
We all know Bandy prefers the one on the left
your left or my left..
You got me there bud...HUH!?!?

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 06:44 PM
We all know Bandy prefers the one on the left
your left or my left..
You got me there bud...HUH!?!?
you need me to highlight it in red?

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 06:52 PM
We all know Bandy prefers the one on the left
your left or my left..
You got me there bud...HUH!?!?
you need me to highlight it in red?
I just never know with you sir...lol What can I say

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 07:00 PM
We all know Bandy prefers the one on the left
your left or my left..
You got me there bud...HUH!?!?
you need me to highlight it in red?
I just never know with you sir...lol What can I say
lol.. you have a point. </P>


so hows the Fam?</P>

Morehead State
05-03-2010, 07:04 PM
I went to Quebec(the city) when I was in middle school once....
The city is pretty awesome....very old and historic, and the <FONT color=#0000ff>entire circumference is walled in</FONT>. In some points(near the st. lawrence) very very high.

Ok, thats the only cool part about Quebec....this story is over... lolthe rest of Canada has been waiting on a really really bad rainstorm..</P>


afternoon folks</P>


Que Paso My favorite Canadian!?!?!?

Whats your feelings on 'The OTHER Canada", and since English and French are the national languages do you guys have to learn it in school or is that only in Quebec??
yah its mandatory.. but for some odd reason all the french teachers are very attractive ladies.. so its a washWOw, I never pictured EVERY Canadian to be fluent in french

So do you guys in 'Regular Canada' look down upon Quebec and other provinces (right?) like we look down upon 'The South' in the USA???
</P>


haha cmon Kase...be fair :
We look down upon the RURAL South here in the States.
I, for example....hate hicks and rednecks....but I can't ever get enough of Athens, GA and Atlanta....</P>


</P>


Shall we review evrything you claim to hate just today.....</P>


Hicks</P>


Rednecks</P>


Kids</P>


Your schedule</P>


Basketball.</P>


And of course its always understood........Boston</P>


</P>


But strangely....you love "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey.</P>


What the hell is rattling aroundup there between your ears?</P>

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 07:04 PM
We all know Bandy prefers the one on the left
your left or my left..
You got me there bud...HUH!?!?
you need me to highlight it in red?
I just never know with you sir...lol What can I say
lol.. you have a point. </p>


so hows the Fam?</p>
Everyone is great. 62 here and sunny. All the wifes are at the temple so things are peaceful.

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 07:11 PM
We all know Bandy prefers the one on the left
your left or my left..
You got me there bud...HUH!?!?
you need me to highlight it in red?
I just never know with you sir...lol What can I say
lol.. you have a point. </P>


so hows the Fam?</P>
Everyone is great. 62 here and sunny. All the wifes are at the temple so things are peaceful.
we are doing well to thanks for asking [:P]

Morehead State
05-03-2010, 07:12 PM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 07:15 PM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.a show? what about?

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 07:18 PM
What the hell is rattling aroundup there between your ears?
http://hhan.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/male_brain.gif

Morehead State
05-03-2010, 07:18 PM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.a show? what about?</P>


An HBO miniseries about the war in the Pacific. It started a bit slow, but its been truly outstanding over the last several weeks.</P>


Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg are producers.</P>

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 07:19 PM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.a show? what about?</P>


An HBO miniseries about the war in the Pacific. It started a bit slow, but its been truly outstanding over the last several weeks.</P>


Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg are producers.</P>sure beats watching the Sox eh?

Morehead State
05-03-2010, 07:20 PM
What the hell is rattling aroundup there between your ears?
http://hhan.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/male_brain.gif
</P>


Made me laugh Lando!</P>

Morehead State
05-03-2010, 07:20 PM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.a show? what about?</P>


An HBO miniseries about the war in the Pacific. It started a bit slow, but its been truly outstanding over the last several weeks.</P>


Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg are producers.</P>


sure beats watching the Sox eh?</P>


Unless of course we're playing the Jays.</P>

bandwgn86
05-03-2010, 07:26 PM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.a show? what about?</P>


An HBO miniseries about the war in the Pacific. It started a bit slow, but its been truly outstanding over the last several weeks.</P>


Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg are producers.</P>


sure beats watching the Sox eh?</P>


Unless of course we're playing the Jays.</P>


what did yah like most the 25 run game or the 2 run games lol</P>


ps i love AGonz.. even though he will be tradebait this year</P>

Morehead State
05-03-2010, 07:55 PM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.a show? what about?</P>


An HBO miniseries about the war in the Pacific. It started a bit slow, but its been truly outstanding over the last several weeks.</P>


Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg are producers.</P>


sure beats watching the Sox eh?</P>


Unless of course we're playing the Jays.</P>


what did yah like most the 25 run game or the 2 run games lol</P>


ps i love AGonz.. even though he will be tradebait this year</P>


</P>


Any game when we score more than the other guys.</P>


I told you Gonzo was a player.</P>

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 09:36 PM
Made me laugh Lando!
I believe that is the closest I will ever get to an LOL and I loved it.

From now on when I make you laugh will you say MMLL?

bigblue4417
05-03-2010, 10:34 PM
its a shame...Boston should be up 2-0

ny06
05-03-2010, 10:49 PM
its a shame...Boston should be up 2-0

I hope Boston wins.

It would be great to see Lebron walk away with disgust on his face.

And I do not like any Boston team lol

http://i41.tinypic.com/51aphc.jpg

JPizzack
05-03-2010, 11:16 PM
Shall we review evrything you claim to hate just today.....</p>


Hicks</p>


Rednecks</p>


Kids</p>


Your schedule</p>


Basketball.</p>


And of course its always understood........Boston</p>


</p>


But strangely....you love "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey.</p>


What the hell is rattling aroundup there between your ears?</p>

First off....PAL....i never said today that I hated Boston....
FFS!!! THAT SHOULD ALREADY BE ASSUMED!!!! It's what we call...unsaid.
And all those things are valid anyway....
ANDDDDD.....
I didnt say I love that song...i did say it's ok....AND i said I LOVED the lil tattooed girl's performance of it! BIG DIFFERENCE, buddy guy....ok CHIEF!?

byron
05-03-2010, 11:36 PM
OK... CARM DOWN IN HERE!!! WHAT HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE !!!! CAN'T YOU GET ALONG !!!I MEAN REAAAAALLLY WHAT HELL IS GOING ON!!!</P>


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lol...I'm kidding</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 12:58 AM
Shall we review evrything you claim to hate just today.....</p>


Hicks</p>


Rednecks</p>


Kids</p>


Your schedule</p>


Basketball.</p>


And of course its always understood........Boston</p>


</p>


But strangely....you love "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey.</p>


What the hell is rattling aroundup there between your ears?</p>

First off....PAL....i never said today that I hated Boston....
FFS!!! THAT SHOULD ALREADY BE ASSUMED!!!! It's what we call...unsaid.
And all those things are valid anyway....
ANDDDDD.....
I didnt say I love that song...i did say it's ok....AND i said I LOVED the lil tattooed girl's performance of it! BIG DIFFERENCE, buddy guy....ok CHIEF!?

http://kirkweisler.com/t4d/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/illustion-learn-teach.jpg

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 01:03 AM
its a shame...Boston should be up 2-0

I hope Boston wins.

It would be great to see Lebron walk away with disgust on his face.

And I do not like any Boston team lol

http://i41.tinypic.com/51aphc.jpg
I love it...Please save that photo so it can be part of IBB85's sig. Thank you and salutations

**** LEBRON!!!

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 08:57 AM
Shall we review evrything you claim to hate just today.....</P>


Hicks</P>


Rednecks</P>


Kids</P>


Your schedule</P>


Basketball.</P>


And of course its always understood........Boston</P>


</P>


But strangely....you love "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey.</P>


What the hell is rattling aroundup there between your ears?</P>




First off....PAL....i never said today that I hated Boston....
FFS!!! THAT SHOULD ALREADY BE ASSUMED!!!! It's what we call...unsaid.
And all those things are valid anyway....
ANDDDDD.....
I didnt say I love that song...i did say it's ok....AND i said I LOVED the lil tattooed girl's performance of it! BIG DIFFERENCE, buddy guy....ok CHIEF!?
</P>


Oh my God Pizz, you are priceless.</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 08:58 AM
Last night was a good one for the good guys.</P>


Sox actually hit the baseball. And the Celtics.......awesome!!!</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 09:32 AM
Oh my God Pizz, you are priceless.</P>


you were supposed to say "I'm not a chief...not a Native American chief, I dont play forthe Kansas City Chiefs, and im not a chef, which is sometimes confused with chief on paper.....and dont call me pal......GAYLORD!!!"</P>


</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 09:43 AM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.yea its alright. still not better then bob. thought that seen when the guy goes to take a **** by a cave entrance and a jap with a kitana starts running at him was a funny scene. lol hes running up a path of marines yelling with his pants around his ankles "can someone shoot him please?!?!" lmao

ny06
05-04-2010, 09:44 AM
Last night was a good one for the good guys.</P>


Sox actually hit the baseball.* And the Yankees.......awesome!!!</P>

fixed it for you ;)

Good win by the Yankees.

Posada is hurt, strained calf

He should be day to day

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 09:51 AM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.yea its alright. still not better then bob. thought that seen when the guy goes to take a **** by a cave entrance and a jap with a kitana starts running at him was a funny scene. lol hes running up a path of marines yelling with his pants around his ankles "can someone shoot him please?!?!" lmao


I'm probably going to download it when the shows finishes...i dont feel like watching UP TO where it's at now, just to have to wait later.
I've been watching alot of movies lately about the war in the pacific(Flags of our Fathers, Letters to Iwo Jima, etc.)....and they were pretty good.

Not to totally change the subject but I've watched through 3 and a half seasons of Rescue Me...and this show was ****ING CRAZY!!!!!
Like i heard it was....but now that I'm watching it, I cant even deal with how ****ed up it gets at times lol. I'd recommend it to anyone who hasnt seen it.

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 09:52 AM
Last night was a good one for the good guys.</p>


Sox actually hit the baseball. And the Yankees.......awesome!!!</p>

fixed it for you ;)

Good win by the Yankees.

Posada is hurt, strained calf

He should be day to dayhopefully he recovers quickly, cevallis been a solid back up. he can also play 3rd.

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 09:54 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/suspect-faisal-shahzad-arrested-in-new-york-times-square-bomb-plot/19463656?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww .aolnews.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Fsuspect-faisal-shahzad-arrested-in-new-york-times-square-bomb-plot%2F19463656

some scary ****

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 09:54 AM
Posada is hurt, strained calf He should be day to day</P>


gee ya think it has to do with that cut fastball that rocked him directly in the back of the knee that he couldnt escape!? lol</P>


that made me cringe...and it was worse to watch it in real time as opposed to slow motion lol</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 09:55 AM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.yea its alright. still not better then bob. thought that seen when the guy goes to take a **** by a cave entrance and a jap with a kitana starts running at him was a funny scene. lol hes running up a path of marines yelling with his pants around his ankles "can someone shoot him please?!?!" lmao


I'm probably going to download it when the shows finishes...i dont feel like watching UP TO where it's at now, just to have to wait later.
I've been watching alot of movies lately about the war in the pacific(Flags of our Fathers, Letters to Iwo Jima, etc.)....and they were pretty good.

Not to totally change the subject but I've watched through 3 and a half seasons of Rescue Me...and this show was ****ING CRAZY!!!!!
Like i heard it was....but now that I'm watching it, I cant even deal with how ****ed up it gets at times lol. I'd recommend it to anyone who hasnt seen it.yea i know i think i got to season 4 and his ex wife wasnt dead yet so i just stopped watching. the oldest daughter and the ex wife ruin it for me.

ny06
05-04-2010, 09:57 AM
Last night was a good one for the good guys.</p>


Sox actually hit the baseball.* And the Yankees.......awesome!!!</p>

fixed it for you ;)

Good win by the Yankees.

Posada is hurt, strained calf

He should be day to dayhopefully he recovers quickly, cevallis been a solid back up. he can also play 3rd.


I think he will be ok, give him a few days to just heal.

I like Cervelli, guy has emotion

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:01 AM
By the way...."The Pacific" has become absolutely fabulous.yea its alright. still not better then bob. thought that seen when the guy goes to take a **** by a cave entrance and a jap with a kitana starts running at him was a funny scene. lol hes running up a path of marines yelling with his pants around his ankles "can someone shoot him please?!?!" lmao


I'm probably going to download it when the shows finishes...i dont feel like watching UP TO where it's at now, just to have to wait later.
I've been watching alot of movies lately about the war in the pacific(Flags of our Fathers, Letters to Iwo Jima, etc.)....and they were pretty good.

Not to totally change the subject but I've watched through 3 and a half seasons of Rescue Me...and this show was ****ING CRAZY!!!!!
Like i heard it was....but now that I'm watching it, I cant even deal with how ****ed up it gets at times lol. I'd recommend it to anyone who hasnt seen it.yea i know i think i got to season 4 and his ex wife wasnt dead yet so i just stopped watching. the oldest daughter and the ex wife ruin it for me.
</P>


hahahaha dude they are the best part! Ilove when they fight, and he wont do anything, and she always ends up throwing him into ****....and in this latest ep, she threw him thru the kitchen table....AFTER she hit him in the head with a frying pan. lmao &lt;3 Janet....plus, shes ridiculously hott</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 10:02 AM
Last night was a good one for the good guys.</p>


Sox actually hit the baseball. And the Yankees.......awesome!!!</p>

fixed it for you ;)

Good win by the Yankees.

Posada is hurt, strained calf

He should be day to dayhopefully he recovers quickly, cevallis been a solid back up. he can also play 3rd.


I think he will be ok, give him a few days to just heal.

I like Cervelli, guy has emotionlol yea. lots of it. he was going hard at aceves the other night.

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:15 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:21 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....</P>


You know you want to say that you hate it.</P>


Just say it and be done with it.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:23 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....</P>


You know you want to say that you hate it.</P>


Just say it and be done with it.</P>


</P>


theres nothing to hate....i just clearly see the potential danger lol</P>

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 10:23 AM
good morning gents!</P>


</P>


dezz, how was your bday? did you see my post for you yesterday?!?</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 10:28 AM
good morning gents!</p>


</p>


dezz, how was your bday? did you see my post for you yesterday?!?</p>its was great. hurting a little here at work today but it was good. hahaha
and of course i did, i thanked you too.

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:28 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....</P>


You know you want to say that you hate it.</P>


Just say it and be done with it.</P>


</P>


theres nothing to hate....i just clearly see the potential danger lol</P>


</P>


I keep giving you chances to be funny, and you keep dropping the ball.</P>


I'm trying to be there for ya Pizzle. But jeez....</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 10:28 AM
Lakers go up 2-0 tonight!!!

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 10:29 AM
good morning gents!</P>


</P>


dezz, how was your bday? did you see my post for you yesterday?!?</P>


its was great. hurting a little here at work today but it was good. hahaha
and of course i did, i thanked you too.
</P>


oh i missed it... just wanted to make sure you saw it! lol</P>


well glad you had a good time [:D]</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 10:29 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020826/login/1sexual.jpg

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:29 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....</P>


You know you want to say that you hate it.</P>


Just say it and be done with it.</P>


</P>


theres nothing to hate....i just clearly see the potential danger lol</P>


</P>


I keep giving you chances to be funny, and you keep dropping the ball.</P>


I'm trying to be there for ya Pizzle. But jeez....</P>


</P>


lol i dont get it....youve been weird this week so far...</P>


What is it youre looking for me to say?!</P>


I thought my last 2 posts to you were funny! damn you! laugh!</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:30 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020826/login/1sexual.jpg
</P>


this is sexual harassment, and i DONT have to take it!!</P>


lol. anyone remember those commercials?</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:31 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....</P>


You know you want to say that you hate it.</P>


Just say it and be done with it.</P>


</P>


theres nothing to hate....i just clearly see the potential danger lol</P>


</P>


I keep giving you chances to be funny, and you keep dropping the ball.</P>


I'm trying to be there for ya Pizzle. But jeez....</P>


</P>


lol i dont get it....youve been weird this week so far...</P>


What is it youre looking for me to say?!</P>


I thought my last 2 posts to you were funny! damn you! laugh!</P>


</P>


Morehead is an enigma, wrapped in a riddle.</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 10:31 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 10:32 AM
They installed a workwide instant messaging system here last night....

NOTHING good can come from this.....nothing....
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020826/login/1sexual.jpg
</p>


this is sexual harassment, and i DONT have to take it!!</p>


lol. anyone remember those commercials?</p>
LOL I'm just happy you could see the photo.

And yes, those commercials were SO cheezy. All you could do is laugh

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:32 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</P>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:33 AM
is an enigma, wrapped in a riddle.</P>


you've already used that line once before Uncle Morehead....</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 10:34 AM
good morning gents!</p>


</p>


dezz, how was your bday? did you see my post for you yesterday?!?</p>


its was great. hurting a little here at work today but it was good. hahaha
and of course i did, i thanked you too.
</p>


oh i missed it... just wanted to make sure you saw it! lol</p>


well glad you had a good time [:D]</p>well im glad your glad i had a good time. lol
that chick in the picture was hot.

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:35 AM
is an enigma, wrapped in a riddle.</P>


you've already used that line once before Uncle Morehead....</P>


</P>


Does that mean that it ceases to be true?</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:36 AM
is an enigma, wrapped in a riddle.</P>


you've already used that line once before Uncle Morehead....</P>


</P>


Does that mean that it ceases to be true?</P>


</P>


not necessarily, but i want original Morehead material!!</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:37 AM
whoops double post, myyyy busssssssssss</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:37 AM
is an enigma, wrapped in a riddle.</P>


you've already used that line once before Uncle Morehead....</P>


</P>


Does that mean that it ceases to be true?</P>


</P>


not necessarily, but i want original Morehead material!!</P>


</P>


I got nothin'.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:39 AM
is an enigma, wrapped in a riddle.</P>


you've already used that line once before Uncle Morehead....</P>


</P>


Does that mean that it ceases to be true?</P>


</P>


not necessarily, but i want original Morehead material!!</P>


</P>


I got nothin'.</P>


</P>


THATS MY LINE!!!!
YOURE THE WOOOORST!!!!</P>

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 10:44 AM
good morning gents!</P>


</P>


dezz, how was your bday? did you see my post for you yesterday?!?</P>


its was great. hurting a little here at work today but it was good. hahaha
and of course i did, i thanked you too.
</P>


oh i missed it... just wanted to make sure you saw it! lol</P>


well glad you had a good time [:D]</P>


well im glad your glad i had a good time. lol
that chick in the picture was hot.
</P>


ughh i hate her.. it was reby sky... totally over-rated LOL but w/e she wanted to giveyou some bday lovee</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 10:44 AM
</p>

Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands
that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new
defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of
their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>

All this ensures a
different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>

"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell,
who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've
started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm
going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants
defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to
return to that defense." </p>




Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell
mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the
second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first
impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>

While first-round
pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he
gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained
kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding
schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own
business but encourage those around him. </p>

"He had enough energy
to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were
dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can
run." </p>

The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice
after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from
Fewell. </p>

At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in
the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger
than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time
squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General
manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie
will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will
block the inside."

<font size="3" color="#000000">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any
marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which
as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris
Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from
Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready
to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.
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dezzzR
05-04-2010, 10:46 AM
good morning gents!</p>


</p>


dezz, how was your bday? did you see my post for you yesterday?!?</p>


its was great. hurting a little here at work today but it was good. hahaha
and of course i did, i thanked you too.
</p>


oh i missed it... just wanted to make sure you saw it! lol</p>


well glad you had a good time [:D]</p>


well im glad your glad i had a good time. lol
that chick in the picture was hot.
</p>


ughh i hate her.. it was reby sky... totally over-rated LOL but w/e she wanted to giveyou some bday lovee</p>that was reb? shes hott but i dont like attention *****s.

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 10:49 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</p>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</p>
I totally agree. Just unfortunate they let that one get away. Game 3 is HUUUGE. You guys have to win that one. I have called the Celtics since the beginning. Nice to see Rasheed showed up for the first time all year. Still pulling for ya. No way you beat Orlando but it would be nice to put an end to Lebron...

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:51 AM
</P>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </P>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </P>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </P>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </P>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </P>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </P>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </P>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </P>General manager <FONT color=#0000ff>Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</FONT> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<FONT color=#000000 size=3>Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</FONT>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</P>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:52 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</P>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</P>



I totally agree. Just unfortunate they let that one get away. Game 3 is HUUUGE. You guys have to win that one. I have called the Celtics since the beginning. Nice to see Rasheed showed up for the first time all year. Still pulling for ya. No way you beat Orlando but it would be nice to put an end to Lebron...
</P>


I'm not convinced Orlando will get past Atlanta.</P>


Just sayin'.</P>


</P>


By the way, it was nice to see the Suns beat San Antonio. I forgot that they still had a basketball team in Phoenix.</P>


Does Conny Hawkins still play for them?</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 10:54 AM
i'm fressshhhh i'm flyyyyyyyy i'm alwayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys.....

cha chilllinnnn

work sucks, took a 420 break at 1020...

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 10:55 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>

and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 10:57 AM
</P>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </P>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </P>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </P>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </P>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </P>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </P>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </P>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </P>General manager <FONT color=#0000ff>Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</FONT> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<FONT color=#000000 size=3>Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</FONT>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</P>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</P>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</P>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 10:58 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</P>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</P>



I totally agree. Just unfortunate they let that one get away. Game 3 is HUUUGE. You guys have to win that one. I have called the Celtics since the beginning. Nice to see Rasheed showed up for the first time all year. Still pulling for ya. No way you beat Orlando but it would be nice to put an end to Lebron...
</P>


I'm not convinced Orlando will get past Atlanta.</P>


Just sayin'.</P>


</P>


By the way, it was nice to see the Suns beat San Antonio. I forgot that they still had a basketball team in Phoenix.</P>


Does Conny Hawkins still play for them?</P>


</P>


WHAAAT?!?!?! Nash drops 33, and still dishes 10, and youre sleepin on em?!!?
Look out Lakers.....Sunburn is a comin!!!</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 10:58 AM
A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.
http://ihavenet.com/images/Micheal-Strahan-Super-Bowl-XLII.jpg

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 10:59 AM
</p>

Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands
that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new
defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of
their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>

All this ensures a
different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>

"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell,
who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've
started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm
going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants
defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to
return to that defense." </p>




Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell
mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the
second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first
impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>

While first-round
pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he
gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained
kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding
schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own
business but encourage those around him. </p>

"He had enough energy
to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were
dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can
run." </p>

The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice
after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from
Fewell. </p>

At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in
the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger
than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time
squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General
manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie
will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will
block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any
marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which
as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris
Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from
Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready
to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.
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actually it backs up my arguement. Moorehead swore by bolstering the DTs and DLine overall its because we would rely on them to make the plays so MLB wouldn't be important...

but thats false..

just like this article said, the DT is going to use as the "lead blocker" for the LBs to make plays... so as my argument has been all along, it doesn't matter how good ur dline is if ur MLB makes bad reads and takes bad angles

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 10:59 AM
</p>I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>
He just wants to be right no matter what the cost [;)] lol

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:00 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</P>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</P>



I totally agree. Just unfortunate they let that one get away. Game 3 is HUUUGE. You guys have to win that one. I have called the Celtics since the beginning. Nice to see Rasheed showed up for the first time all year. Still pulling for ya. No way you beat Orlando but it would be nice to put an end to Lebron...
</P>


I'm not convinced Orlando will get past Atlanta.</P>


Just sayin'.</P>


</P>


By the way, it was nice to see the Suns beat San Antonio. I forgot that they still had a basketball team in Phoenix.</P>


Does Conny Hawkins still play for them?</P>


</P>


WHAAAT?!?!?! Nash drops 33, and still dishes 10, and youre sleepin on em?!!?
Look out Lakers.....Sunburn is a comin!!!</P>


</P>


No really. They still have a team there?</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:02 AM
Here we go again....I should not have posted that

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:03 AM
</P>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </P>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </P>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </P>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </P>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </P>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </P>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </P>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </P>General manager <FONT color=#0000ff>Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</FONT> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<FONT color=#000000 size=3>Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</FONT>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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actually it backs up my arguement. Moorehead swore by bolstering the DTs and DLine overall its because we would rely on them to make the plays so MLB wouldn't be important...

but thats false..

just like this article said, the DT is going to use as the "lead blocker" for the LBs to make plays... so as my argument has been all along, it doesn't matter how good ur dline is if ur MLB makes bad reads and takes bad angles
</P>


And you don't think that in his first season in the NFL, Rolando McClain won't make bad reads and take bad angles?</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:04 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>

not but when JPP ends up blowing and Goff plays out of position, just be ready for the mmb "i told ya so"

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:04 AM
A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.
http://ihavenet.com/images/Micheal-Strahan-Super-Bowl-XLII.jpg


</P>


nobody = Strahan....specifically a DE with a bad back at the old age of...20? 21?</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:08 AM
</P>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </P>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </P>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </P>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </P>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </P>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </P>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </P>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </P>General manager <FONT color=#0000ff>Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</FONT> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<FONT color=#000000 size=3>Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</FONT>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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</P>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</P>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</P>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</P>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</P>




not but when JPP ends up blowing and Goff plays out of position, just be ready for the mmb "i told ya so"
</P>


Well I suppose there is a first time for everything. But I'm betting you will continue to be 0 for forever.</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 11:08 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:09 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</p>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</p>



I totally agree. Just unfortunate they let that one get away. Game 3 is HUUUGE. You guys have to win that one. I have called the Celtics since the beginning. Nice to see Rasheed showed up for the first time all year. Still pulling for ya. No way you beat Orlando but it would be nice to put an end to Lebron...
</p>


I'm not convinced Orlando will get past Atlanta.</p>


Just sayin'.</p>


</p>


By the way, it was nice to see the Suns beat San Antonio. I forgot that they still had a basketball team in Phoenix.</p>


Does Conny Hawkins still play for them?</p>
Orlando will dominate ATL...

No but Larry Nance and Thunder Dan played well last night.

Either one of those teams are going to get worked, it doesn't even matter. After watching the Suns last night I am not scared at all. Nash is ailing and he is the catalyst.

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:13 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</P>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</P>



I totally agree. Just unfortunate they let that one get away. Game 3 is HUUUGE. You guys have to win that one. I have called the Celtics since the beginning. Nice to see Rasheed showed up for the first time all year. Still pulling for ya. No way you beat Orlando but it would be nice to put an end to Lebron...
</P>


I'm not convinced Orlando will get past Atlanta.</P>


Just sayin'.</P>


</P>


By the way, it was nice to see the Suns beat San Antonio. I forgot that they still had a basketball team in Phoenix.</P>


Does Conny Hawkins still play for them?</P>



Orlando will dominate ATL...

No but Larry Nance and Thunder Dan played well last night.

Either one of those teams are going to get worked, it doesn't even matter. After watching the Suns last night I am not scared at all. Nash is ailing and he is the catalyst.
</P>


uhhh ailing BEFORE last night....dont you reeeaadd, son!? rested his leg for 3 days, and he's playing like he's 25!!

oh and youre forgetting KJ and Sir Charles!</P>

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 11:13 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</P>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</P>



I totally agree. Just unfortunate they let that one get away. Game 3 is HUUUGE. You guys have to win that one. I have called the Celtics since the beginning. Nice to see Rasheed showed up for the first time all year. Still pulling for ya. No way you beat Orlando but it would be nice to put an end to Lebron...
</P>


go away all of you... the cavs are winning. lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:15 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>




actually it backs up my arguement. Moorehead swore by bolstering the DTs and DLine overall its because we would rely on them to make the plays so MLB wouldn't be important...

but thats false..

just like this article said, the DT is going to use as the "lead blocker" for the LBs to make plays... so as my argument has been all along, it doesn't matter how good ur dline is if ur MLB makes bad reads and takes bad angles
</p>


And you don't think that in his first season in the NFL, Rolando McClain won't make bad reads and take bad angles?</p>


</p>

of course it will happen, but hes more of a true football player, kid has instincts and hsould be a beast.

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:17 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:17 AM
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MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:17 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>




not but when JPP ends up blowing and Goff plays out of position, just be ready for the mmb "i told ya so"
</p>


Well I suppose there is a first time for everything. But I'm betting you will continue to be 0 for forever.</p>

u dont want me to go thru my laundry list of hits sir....

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:18 AM
A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.
http://ihavenet.com/images/Micheal-Strahan-Super-Bowl-XLII.jpg


</p>


nobody = Strahan....specifically a DE with a bad back at the old age of...20? 21?</p>
I was not insinuating that at all. He says certain things go a long way, that is the way they end up.

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:19 AM
Celtics.......awesome!!!
Should be up 2-0 [:(]
</P>


This is true. But 1-1, coming back to Boston isn't a bad thing.</P>



I totally agree. Just unfortunate they let that one get away. Game 3 is HUUUGE. You guys have to win that one. I have called the Celtics since the beginning. Nice to see Rasheed showed up for the first time all year. Still pulling for ya. No way you beat Orlando but it would be nice to put an end to Lebron...
</P>


I'm not convinced Orlando will get past Atlanta.</P>


Just sayin'.</P>


</P>


By the way, it was nice to see the Suns beat San Antonio. I forgot that they still had a basketball team in Phoenix.</P>


Does Conny Hawkins still play for them?</P>



Orlando will dominate ATL...

No but Larry Nance and Thunder Dan played well last night.

Either one of those teams are going to get worked, it doesn't even matter. After watching the Suns last night I am not scared at all. Nash is ailing and he is the catalyst.
</P>


uhhh ailing BEFORE last night....dont you reeeaadd, son!? rested his leg for 3 days, and he's playing like he's 25!!

oh and youre forgetting KJ and Sir Charles!</P>


</P>


He "claims" he felt better, but he's from Canada. Do we really believe him?</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:20 AM
Ndamukong Suh has been offered words of wisdom from an unlikely source.
The No. 2 overall draft pick recently got some career and life advice
from Jay-Z. Suh met the rapper and part owner of the New Jersey Nets
backstage at the Palms Casino Resort in March. "He said, 'Stay humble,
hungry. And continue to press on,'" Suh said. "He was very proud of the
way I carried myself and so forth. Just stay who you are, stay true to
what you are and what you believe in. Don't change yourself. Don't let
the money change you."

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:21 AM
</P>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </P>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </P>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </P>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </P>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </P>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </P>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </P>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </P>General manager <FONT color=#0000ff>Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</FONT> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<FONT color=#000000 size=3>Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</FONT>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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</P>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</P>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</P>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</P>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</P>




not but when JPP ends up blowing and Goff plays out of position, just be ready for the mmb "i told ya so"
</P>


Well I suppose there is a first time for everything. But I'm betting you will continue to be 0 for forever.</P>




u dont want me to go thru my laundry list of hits sir....
</P>


The last thing I want to go through is your laundry.</P>


</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:22 AM
He "claims" he felt better, but he's from Canada. Do we really believe him?</P>


best canadian in the world! Sorry Bandy youre a clsoe 2nd =P</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 11:23 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:23 AM
He "claims" he felt better, but he's from Canada. Do we really believe him?</P>


best canadian in the world! Sorry Bandy youre a clsoe 2nd =P</P>


</P>


WRONG!!!!</P>


William Shattner and Alex Trebek.</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:24 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>




not but when JPP ends up blowing and Goff plays out of position, just be ready for the mmb "i told ya so"
</p>


Well I suppose there is a first time for everything. But I'm betting you will continue to be 0 for forever.</p>




u dont want me to go thru my laundry list of hits sir....
</p>


The last thing I want to go through is your laundry.</p>


</p>

i clean my undies

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:24 AM
I was not insinuating that at all. He says certain things go a long way, that is the way they end up.

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
</P>


anytime anyone says championship, i think back to that Fantasy Football commercial from like 4-5 years ago...when the guys makin a pick...and he's all excited "TJ HOUZYAMOMMA!!! Put it on the board!!! Sign it up!!! CHAAAAAAAAAAMPIONSHIP!!!</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:24 AM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 11:25 AM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</P>


stop living in the past.</P>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:25 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</P>


"Give up a first and a third for Braylon and pay him $10MM/year"</P>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:25 AM
I was not insinuating that at all. He says certain things go a long way, that is the way they end up.

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
</p>


anytime anyone says championship, i think back to that Fantasy Football commercial from like 4-5 years ago...when the guys makin a pick...and he's all excited "TJ HOUZYAMOMMA!!! Put it on the board!!! Sign it up!!! CHAAAAAAAAAAMPIONSHIP!!!</p>
EXACT thing I was referring to and think every time....

Those commercials were hilarious. I loved the one where the guy was on the phone and he says "You will take who we give you" then slams the phone on his forehead and hangs up. LMAO

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:26 AM
He "claims" he felt better, but he's from Canada. Do we really believe him?</P>


best canadian in the world! Sorry Bandy youre a clsoe 2nd =P</P>


</P>


WRONG!!!!</P>


William Shattner and Alex Trebek.</P>


</P>


lol LIES!!!!!
ALL LIES!!!!</P>


Nash &gt; most of the world</P>


Plus, he is.....The Most Ridiculous Man in the World</P>


http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/nash-vitamin-water.jpg</P>


Check out that SWEET SUIT!!! TELL ME that doesnt make him the best canadian!!</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:27 AM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:27 AM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</P>


stop living in the past.</P>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</P>


</P>


Lebron is better than Kobe.</P>


But he will still lose to the Celtics.</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:28 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</p>


"Give up a first and a third for Braylon and pay him $10MM/year"</p>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</p>
That was actually a couple

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:28 AM
I was not insinuating that at all. He says certain things go a long way, that is the way they end up.

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
</P>


anytime anyone says championship, i think back to that Fantasy Football commercial from like 4-5 years ago...when the guys makin a pick...and he's all excited "TJ HOUZYAMOMMA!!! Put it on the board!!! Sign it up!!! CHAAAAAAAAAAMPIONSHIP!!!</P>



EXACT thing I was referring to and think every time....

Those commercials were hilarious. I loved the one where the guy was on the phone and he says "You will take who we give you" then slams the phone on his forehead and hangs up. LMAO
</P>


HAHAHAHAHA</P>


Bro you ever watch "The League" this past fall on FX?!??! lolllllllll it was hilarious!
There was one scene where there were 2 of the guys in an office, with a convict...full orange jumpsuit and everything...and they were using fantasy draft picks to make a plea bargain deal. AMAZING!!! lol</P>


oh, and youtube The Birthday Song from The League</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:29 AM
He "claims" he felt better, but he's from Canada. Do we really believe him?</P>


best canadian in the world! Sorry Bandy youre a clsoe 2nd =P</P>


</P>


WRONG!!!!</P>


William Shattner and Alex Trebek.</P>


</P>


lol LIES!!!!!
ALL LIES!!!!</P>


Nash &gt; most of the world</P>


Plus, he is.....The Most Ridiculous Man in the World</P>


http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/nash-vitamin-water.jpg</P>


Check out that SWEET SUIT!!! TELL ME that doesnt make him the best canadian!!</P>


</P>


He looks like one of the cast of "Deliverance" in this photo.</P>


"My you have a perty mouth"</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:30 AM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</p>


stop living in the past.</p>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</p>
It all depends on what you judge better buy I guess.

Statistically Lebron is and will be better than Kobe every year.

Kobe has much better fundamentals, post up game, jump shot and killer instinct.

I won't even mention the bling [;)]

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:31 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</p>


"Give up a first and a third for Braylon and pay him $10MM/year"</p>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</p>

Braylon was off with - but was more so off with Nicks. Didn't think we'd get the production out of him as we did. I was right by saying we needed WR help tho... kinda like i said about the saftey spot that year too and ht eMLB spot this year.... don't get caught sleepin pappy

and ur misqouting the Joba point and taking it out of context...

Joba was brought in as a starter and was his whole life, so thats true.

It would be a waste to keep him as an 8th inning guy when he had so much potential and we have Mo in the closer role. And hey by the way, the year he was our 5th starter, we won the world series.


They decided they didnt like what they saw, thats fine, i disagree with it because they gave him baby bull**** rules.... they threw the shackles on him and it took him out of his game..

reminds me of the ol Michael Jordan joke. Who was the only person able to stop MJ in college? Dean Smith

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:31 AM
Morehead has spoken

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:33 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</P>


"Give up a first and a third for Braylon and pay him $10MM/year"</P>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</P>




Braylon was off with - but was more so off with Nicks. Didn't think we'd get the production out of him as we did. I was right by saying we needed WR help tho... kinda like i said about the saftey spot that year too and ht eMLB spot this year.... don't get caught sleepin pappy

and ur misqouting the Joba point and taking it out of context...

Joba was brought in as a starter and was his whole life, so thats true.

It would be a waste to keep him as an 8th inning guy when he had so much potential and we have Mo in the closer role. And hey by the way, the year he was our 5th starter, we won the world series.


They decided they didnt like what they saw, thats fine, i disagree with it because they gave him baby bull**** rules.... they threw the shackles on him and it took him out of his game..

reminds me of the ol Michael Jordan joke. Who was the only person able to stop MJ in college? Dean Smith

</P>


Now you sound like Pizz.</P>


Now I know I've won.</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 11:33 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</p>



</p>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</p>my favorite

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:34 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</p>



</p>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</p>my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 11:34 AM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</P>


stop living in the past.</P>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</P>



It all depends on what you judge better buy I guess.

Statistically Lebron is and will be better than Kobe every year.

Kobe has much better fundamentals, post up game, jump shot and killer instinct.

I won't even mention the bling [;)]
</P>


lebron is 25. kobe is 31. just wait........</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:35 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</P>


"Give up a first and a third for Braylon and pay him $10MM/year"</P>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</P>




Braylon was off with - but was more so off with Nicks. Didn't think we'd get the production out of him as we did. I was right by saying we needed WR help tho... kinda like i said about the saftey spot that year too and ht eMLB spot this year.... don't get caught sleepin pappy

and ur misqouting the Joba point and taking it out of context...

Joba was brought in as a starter and was his whole life, so thats true.

It would be a waste to keep him as an 8th inning guy when he had so much potential and we have Mo in the closer role. And hey by the way, the year he was our 5th starter, we won the world series.


They decided they didnt like what they saw, thats fine, i disagree with it because they gave him baby bull**** rules.... they threw the shackles on him and it took him out of his game..

reminds me of the ol Michael Jordan joke. Who was the only person able to stop MJ in college? Dean Smith

</P>


Yea.....we won the world series...with Joba in the Bullpen WHERE HE ****ING BELONGS!!!</P>


i'm over the guy....he's mediocre, and really has to impress everyone, including the fans....cuz right now he's just "some guy in the NYY bullpen who ISN'T Mariano Rivera....."
I mean REALLY impress everyone....like...you know...like Hughes did last year in the pen?</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:35 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</P>



</P>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</P>


my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong
</P>


Actually its very easy.</P>


<FONT size=6>YOU WERE WRONG!!!!</FONT></P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:35 AM
uhhh ailing BEFORE last night....dont you reeeaadd, son!? rested his leg for 3 days, and he's playing like he's 25!!




</p>


He "claims" he felt better</p>
That pace he plays at over time will beat him up. The Spurs also will break him down.

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:35 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</P>



</P>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</P>


my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong
</P>


WTF, Double post.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:35 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</P>



</P>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</P>


my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong
</P>


who says you cant win with an awful 5th starter?
Most teams dont even have a good 4th starter for crying out loud....what an awful point, matt</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:38 AM
Now you sound like Pizz.


Now I know I've won.</P>


</P>


hey screw off, old man....I'm with you on all these points!
Plus, I've never been wrong in my life....cept this one time....I really thought Jeremy Shockey was awesome once...lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:38 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</p>



</p>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</p>


my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong
</p>


who says you cant win with an awful 5th starter?
Most teams dont even have a good 4th starter for crying out loud....what an awful point, matt</p>

well as awful as he was, statistically he was in the #4 starter level in the AL.. so like i've said before he was better than you make him sound to be.

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:38 AM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:39 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</p>


"Give up a first and a third for Braylon and pay him $10MM/year"</p>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</p>




Braylon was off with - but was more so off with Nicks. Didn't think we'd get the production out of him as we did. I was right by saying we needed WR help tho... kinda like i said about the saftey spot that year too and ht eMLB spot this year.... don't get caught sleepin pappy

and ur misqouting the Joba point and taking it out of context...

Joba was brought in as a starter and was his whole life, so thats true.

It would be a waste to keep him as an 8th inning guy when he had so much potential and we have Mo in the closer role. And hey by the way, the year he was our 5th starter, we won the world series.


They decided they didnt like what they saw, thats fine, i disagree with it because they gave him baby bull**** rules.... they threw the shackles on him and it took him out of his game..

reminds me of the ol Michael Jordan joke. Who was the only person able to stop MJ in college? Dean Smith

</p>


Yea.....we won the world series...with Joba in the Bullpen WHERE HE ****ING BELONGS!!!</p>


i'm over the guy....he's mediocre, and really has to impress everyone, including the fans....cuz right now he's just "some guy in the NYY bullpen who ISN'T Mariano Rivera....."
I mean REALLY impress everyone....like...you know...like Hughes did last year in the pen?</p>

and like Joba did hte year before? lol....

he'll be fine...

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:41 AM
Now you sound like Pizz.


Now I know I've won.</P>


</P>


hey screw off, old man....I'm with you on all these points!
Plus, I've never been wrong in my life....cept this one time....I really thought Jeremy Shockey was awesome once...lol</P>


</P>


That was rude of me.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:41 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</P>



</P>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</P>


my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong
</P>


who says you cant win with an awful 5th starter?
Most teams dont even have a good 4th starter for crying out loud....what an awful point, matt</P>




well as awful as he was, statistically he was in the #4 starter level in the AL.. so like i've said before he was better than you make him sound to be.
</P>


dude thats NOT a stat...we;ve had this argument before and it doesnt make sense....think about WHO all the other 4th and 5th starters are in the AL....FIRST OF ALL....most teams dont have a defined 4 and 5...and just start who they can...Joba has the name already, so it's bull****. So if you wanan get technical, yes youre right...but only because he had more starts than your average 4 and 5 starters on most teams. just another terrible example....</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:42 AM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</p>


stop living in the past.</p>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</p>



It all depends on what you judge better buy I guess.

Statistically Lebron is and will be better than Kobe every year.

Kobe has much better fundamentals, post up game, jump shot and killer instinct.

I won't even mention the bling [;)]
</p>


lebron is 25. kobe is 31. just wait........</p>
My bad, I forgot...Lebron did win something.

http://blog.cleveland.com/cavs_impact/2009/02/large_Lebron-Trophy.jpg

Kind of similar to another one of your favorite athletes...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NwMmft2Mlzg/SXjydP_uebI/AAAAAAAAAqE/Miqd0e6oqE4/s320/AAGN181~Donovan-McNabb-2004-NFC-Championship-Trophy-Posters.jpg

P.S. Lebron will NOT finish with more rings than Kobe. Thanks for playing [;)]

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:45 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</p>



</p>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</p>


my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong
</p>


who says you cant win with an awful 5th starter?
Most teams dont even have a good 4th starter for crying out loud....what an awful point, matt</p>




well as awful as he was, statistically he was in the #4 starter level in the AL.. so like i've said before he was better than you make him sound to be.
</p>


So if you wanan get technical, yes youre right..</p>

thanks [;)]

so for him doing it longer and better hurts my point? Allllrighty then... And this stat was included with 100 innings minimum involved.

And its not a stat, its how he performed vs his peers.... which is probably more important.

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:46 AM
Now you sound like Pizz.


Now I know I've won.</p>


</p>


hey screw off, <font color="#0000ff">old man</font>....I'm with you on all these points!

</p>
LOL you got used

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:47 AM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:48 AM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol
</P>


HAHAHAHA
LANDO DOESNT EVEN LIKE BASEBALL AND HE JUST TOTALLY OWNED YOU!!!!!!</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:48 AM
</p>General
manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie
will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will
block the inside."
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</div>

mr moorehead (and lawl) --- u've seemed to ignore this...

wasn't ur point about no MLB because we were going to use the DLine to stop the run and such?

i think that point has been broken on ur end

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:48 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</P>



</P>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</P>


my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong
</P>


who says you cant win with an awful 5th starter?
Most teams dont even have a good 4th starter for crying out loud....what an awful point, matt</P>




well as awful as he was, statistically he was in the #4 starter level in the AL.. so like i've said before he was better than you make him sound to be.
</P>


So if you wanan get technical, yes youre right..</P>




thanks [;)]

so for him doing it longer and better hurts my point? Allllrighty then... And this stat was included with 100 innings minimum involved.

And its not a stat, its how he performed vs his peers.... which is probably more important.


</P>


Here's a little rule Matt.</P>


When you've dug yourself in a hole....... stop digging.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:49 AM
Now you sound like Pizz.


Now I know I've won.</P>


</P>


hey screw off, <FONT color=#0000ff>old man</FONT>....I'm with you on all these points!

</P>



LOL you got used
</P>


lol, he can deal with it.....after all, he DID just try to compare me to matt. it hurts</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:49 AM
19 assists for Rondo...If he had a jump shot he would be the best PG in the game.

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:52 AM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol


4.75 is as near to 5.00 as it is to 4.50

and in the AL, it isn't that bad

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml

everybodys boy Vaz pitche din the NL half his life to bolster stats and still has a 4.25 lifetime era..


fact is 4.75 for a pitcher at the end of ur rotation in the AL isn't that bad.... again all u have to do is look at numbers to prove that to u

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:52 AM
</P>General manager <FONT color=#0000ff>Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</FONT> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

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mr moorehead (and lawl) --- u've seemed to ignore this...

wasn't ur point about no MLB because we were going to use the DLine to stop the run and such?

i think that point has been broken on ur end
</P>


My point was that the FO and the coaching staff obviously believe that our D line and secondary (especially safety)were our biggest problems on defense last year. Given our poor pass rush productivity, and opposing offenses ability to throw deep on us, who would argue?</P>


I would have liked to see us draft McClain, but he was gone. So we addresses our most glaring need. Pass rush.</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:52 AM
Now you sound like Pizz.


Now I know I've won.</p>


</p>


hey screw off, <font color="#0000ff">old man</font>....I'm with you on all these points!

</p>



LOL you got used
</p>


lol, he can deal with it.....after all, he DID just try to compare me to matt. it hurts</p>
You are going to give him a complex. He already refuses to use the senior citizens discount.

He is not old, he is wise, buff and has a sexy stache. Deal with it hoe!

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:53 AM
Just a few MMB gems......</p>



</p>


"Joba is a natural starter and would be wasted in the bull pen"</p>


my favorite


yea but we did start him and won a ring that year...

hard to say i was wrong
</p>


who says you cant win with an awful 5th starter?
Most teams dont even have a good 4th starter for crying out loud....what an awful point, matt</p>




well as awful as he was, statistically he was in the #4 starter level in the AL.. so like i've said before he was better than you make him sound to be.
</p>


So if you wanan get technical, yes youre right..</p>




thanks [;)]

so for him doing it longer and better hurts my point? Allllrighty then... And this stat was included with 100 innings minimum involved.

And its not a stat, its how he performed vs his peers.... which is probably more important.


</p>


Here's a little rule Matt.</p>


When you've dug yourself in a hole....... stop digging.</p>

lol somehow comparing someone to their peers i don't consider digging, i call it reality

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:54 AM
Now you sound like Pizz.


Now I know I've won.</p>


</p>


hey screw off, <font color="#0000ff">old man</font>....I'm with you on all these points!

</p>



LOL you got used
</p>


lol, he can deal with it.....after all, he DID just try to compare me to matt. it hurts</p>

you should be so lucky

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 11:54 AM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</P>


stop living in the past.</P>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</P>



It all depends on what you judge better buy I guess.

Statistically Lebron is and will be better than Kobe every year.

Kobe has much better fundamentals, post up game, jump shot and killer instinct.

I won't even mention the bling [;)]
</P>


lebron is 25. kobe is 31. just wait........</P>



My bad, I forgot...Lebron did win something.

http://blog.cleveland.com/cavs_impact/2009/02/large_Lebron-Trophy.jpg

Kind of similar to another one of your favorite athletes...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NwMmft2Mlzg/SXjydP_uebI/AAAAAAAAAqE/Miqd0e6oqE4/s320/AAGN181~Donovan-McNabb-2004-NFC-Championship-Trophy-Posters.jpg

P.S. Lebron will NOT finish with more rings than Kobe. Thanks for playing [;)]
</P>


thats your favorite athlete not mine...</P>


bron is mvp. THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN THE NBA. bron will finish with more rings then kobe when all is said and done. i hope i know you 10 years from now so i can laugh in your face when it happens.</P>


thanks for playing. [;)]</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:55 AM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol


4.75 is as near to 5.00 as it is to 4.50

and in the AL, it isn't that bad

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml

everybodys boy Vaz pitche din the NL half his life to bolster stats and still has a 4.25 lifetime era..


fact is 4.75 for a pitcher at the end of ur rotation in the AL isn't that bad.... again all u have to do is look at numbers to prove that to u
</P>


4.75 and struggled all year to get through 5 innings. Not effective at all.</P>


Only the most desperate would claim that Joba had anything other than a dissappointing season in 09.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:56 AM
before I go to lunch I'm going to leave you with a little song i wrote...

JOBA SUCKS JOBA SUCKS JOBA SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS
JOBA SUCKS JOBA SUCKS JOBA SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS
JOBA SUCKS JOBA SUCKS JOBA SUCKS SUCKS SUUUUUUUUCKSS</P>


JOBA SUCKS-- JOBA SUCKS --JOBA SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS!!</P>


be back in a bit</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:57 AM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol


4.75 is as near to 5.00 as it is to 4.50

and in the AL, it isn't that bad

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml

everybodys boy Vaz pitche din the NL half his life to bolster stats and still has a 4.25 lifetime era..


fact is 4.75 for a pitcher at the end of ur rotation in the AL isn't that bad.... again all u have to do is look at numbers to prove that to u
</p>


4.75 and struggled all year to get through 5 innings. Not effective at all.</p>


Only the most desperate would claim that Joba had anything other than a dissappointing season in 09.</p>

i ain't sayin im proud of it or it was a good season, ubt the fact remains, he was our 5th starter giving us production for a 4th starter....

u can't ask for much more than that out of ur 5th starter

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:57 AM
http://img.wonderhowto.com/images/gfx/gallery/a633892592117913679.jpg</P>


<FONT size=4>Stop now before you hurt yourself!!!</FONT></P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 11:57 AM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol


4.75 is as near to 5.00 as it is to 4.50

and in the AL, it isn't that bad

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml

everybodys boy Vaz pitche din the NL half his life to bolster stats and still has a 4.25 lifetime era..


fact is 4.75 for a pitcher at the end of ur rotation in the AL isn't that bad.... again all u have to do is look at numbers to prove that to u

I was actually proving a point for you about how bad Vasquez is. Sorry Pizz. lol

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 11:58 AM
Now you sound like Pizz.


Now I know I've won.</P>


</P>


hey screw off, <FONT color=#0000ff>old man</FONT>....I'm with you on all these points!

</P>



LOL you got used
</P>


lol, he can deal with it.....after all, he DID just try to compare me to matt. it hurts</P>




you should be so lucky
</P>


I'd be luckier to die in a freak gasoline fight accident
http://www.davidjanes.com/images/zoolander_gas.jpg</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 11:58 AM
http://img.wonderhowto.com/images/gfx/gallery/a633892592117913679.jpg</p>


<font size="4">Stop now before you hurt yourself!!!</font></p>

im diggin up

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 11:59 AM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol


4.75 is as near to 5.00 as it is to 4.50

and in the AL, it isn't that bad

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml

everybodys boy Vaz pitche din the NL half his life to bolster stats and still has a 4.25 lifetime era..


fact is 4.75 for a pitcher at the end of ur rotation in the AL isn't that bad.... again all u have to do is look at numbers to prove that to u
</P>


4.75 and struggled all year to get through 5 innings. Not effective at all.</P>


Only the most desperate would claim that Joba had anything other than a dissappointing season in 09.</P>




i ain't sayin im proud of it or it was a good season, ubt the fact remains, he was our 5th starter giving us production for a 4th starter....

u can't ask for much more than that out of ur 5th starter
</P>


If he was an innings eater you could almost make the case. But he put tremendous pressure on the bullpen everytime he started.</P>


He was past 100 pitches in the 5th inning far too many times.</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 12:01 PM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol


4.75 is as near to 5.00 as it is to 4.50

and in the AL, it isn't that bad

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml

everybodys boy Vaz pitche din the NL half his life to bolster stats and still has a 4.25 lifetime era..


fact is 4.75 for a pitcher at the end of ur rotation in the AL isn't that bad.... again all u have to do is look at numbers to prove that to u
</p>


4.75 and struggled all year to get through 5 innings. Not effective at all.</p>


Only the most desperate would claim that Joba had anything other than a dissappointing season in 09.</p>




i ain't sayin im proud of it or it was a good season, ubt the fact remains, he was our 5th starter giving us production for a 4th starter....

u can't ask for much more than that out of ur 5th starter
</p>


If he was an innings eater you could almost make the case. But he put tremendous pressure on the bullpen everytime he started.</p>


He was past 100 pitches in the 5th inning far too many times.</p>

moorehead, im not saying that all of that isn't rtue


but in comparison to the other #4 and #5 starters in the AL ,he was one of the best lol...

i dont get whats so hard to admit about that.. i did that stat breakdown multiple times....

It was more the yankees fualt for the lack of innings as well... THEY babied him

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 12:02 PM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</p>


stop living in the past.</p>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</p>



It all depends on what you judge better buy I guess.

Statistically Lebron is and will be better than Kobe every year.

Kobe has much better fundamentals, post up game, jump shot and killer instinct.

I won't even mention the bling [;)]
</p>


lebron is 25. kobe is 31. just wait........</p>



My bad, I forgot...Lebron did win something.

http://blog.cleveland.com/cavs_impact/2009/02/large_Lebron-Trophy.jpg

Kind of similar to another one of your favorite athletes...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NwMmft2Mlzg/SXjydP_uebI/AAAAAAAAAqE/Miqd0e6oqE4/s320/AAGN181~Donovan-McNabb-2004-NFC-Championship-Trophy-Posters.jpg

P.S. Lebron will NOT finish with more rings than Kobe. Thanks for playing [;)]
</p>


thats your favorite athlete not mine...</p>


bron is mvp. THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN THE NBA. bron will finish with more rings then kobe when all is said and done. i hope i know you 10 years from now so i can laugh in your face when it happens.</p>


thanks for playing. [;)]</p>
Kobe has more Finals MVP's so HA! That one is better anyway...

Lebron has some catching up to do. Pretty soon Kobe will have to use both hands

http://www.nbahub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/2009-nba-mvp-kobe-bryant-05.jpg

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 12:02 PM
</p>General
manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie
will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will
block the inside."
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mr moorehead (and lawl) --- u've seemed to ignore this...

wasn't ur point about no MLB because we were going to use the DLine to stop the run and such?

i think that point has been broken on ur end


moorehead, i would like a response to this...

u've seemed to comb over it twice now

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 12:03 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

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</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:06 PM
</P>General manager <FONT color=#0000ff>Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</FONT> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

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mr moorehead (and lawl) --- u've seemed to ignore this...

wasn't ur point about no MLB because we were going to use the DLine to stop the run and such?

i think that point has been broken on ur end


moorehead, i would like a response to this...

u've seemed to comb over it twice now
</P>


I certainly made the argument that a strong Dline, especially run stoppers, make it easier for LB's.</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 12:09 PM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol


4.75 is as near to 5.00 as it is to 4.50

and in the AL, it isn't that bad

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml

everybodys boy Vaz pitche din the NL half his life to bolster stats and still has a 4.25 lifetime era..


fact is 4.75 for a pitcher at the end of ur rotation in the AL isn't that bad.... again all u have to do is look at numbers to prove that to u
</p>


4.75 and struggled all year to get through 5 innings. Not effective at all.</p>


Only the most desperate would claim that Joba had anything other than a dissappointing season in 09.</p>




i ain't sayin im proud of it or it was a good season, ubt the fact remains, he was our 5th starter giving us production for a 4th starter....

u can't ask for much more than that out of ur 5th starter
</p>


If he was an innings eater you could almost make the case. But he put tremendous pressure on the bullpen everytime he started.</p>


He was past 100 pitches in the 5th inning far too many times.</p>

moorehead, im not saying that all of that isn't rtue


but in comparison to the other #4 and #5 starters in the AL ,he was one of the best lol...

i dont get whats so hard to admit about that.. i did that stat breakdown multiple times....

It was more the yankees fualt for the lack of innings as well... THEY babied him
im starting to worry the move hindered his fastball.

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 12:10 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!


bro, u called Hughes proven before this season even started.. THATS when i had to point out that u were just blowing him

Melky does have a better bat than Gardener, just not as good speed

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 12:12 PM
</p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">

</div>




mr moorehead (and lawl) --- u've seemed to ignore this...

wasn't ur point about no MLB because we were going to use the DLine to stop the run and such?

i think that point has been broken on ur end


moorehead, i would like a response to this...

u've seemed to comb over it twice now
</p>


I certainly made the argument that a strong Dline, especially run stoppers, make it easier for LB's.</p>

so we never had a convo that went like this:

MMB: LBs are the ones that make the plays, we're going to have problems vs the runs

Pappy: No, we're going to rely on the DLine to make the plays..

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 12:13 PM
and one more thing:

Jobas era in 2009 - 4.75

Vazques in 2010 - 9.78



You know ****s bad when you use a near 5 era as an example. lol


4.75 is as near to 5.00 as it is to 4.50

and in the AL, it isn't that bad

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml

everybodys boy Vaz pitche din the NL half his life to bolster stats and still has a 4.25 lifetime era..


fact is 4.75 for a pitcher at the end of ur rotation in the AL isn't that bad.... again all u have to do is look at numbers to prove that to u
</p>


4.75 and struggled all year to get through 5 innings. Not effective at all.</p>


Only the most desperate would claim that Joba had anything other than a dissappointing season in 09.</p>




i ain't sayin im proud of it or it was a good season, ubt the fact remains, he was our 5th starter giving us production for a 4th starter....

u can't ask for much more than that out of ur 5th starter
</p>


If he was an innings eater you could almost make the case. But he put tremendous pressure on the bullpen everytime he started.</p>


He was past 100 pitches in the 5th inning far too many times.</p>

moorehead, im not saying that all of that isn't rtue


but in comparison to the other #4 and #5 starters in the AL ,he was one of the best lol...

i dont get whats so hard to admit about that.. i did that stat breakdown multiple times....

It was more the yankees fualt for the lack of innings as well... THEY babied him
im starting to worry the move hindered his fastball.


His fastball is getting better... who knows if he'll ever be where he was, but he'll def be better than he was last year with his speed...

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:18 PM
</P>General manager <FONT color=#0000ff>Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</FONT> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

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</DIV>




mr moorehead (and lawl) --- u've seemed to ignore this...

wasn't ur point about no MLB because we were going to use the DLine to stop the run and such?

i think that point has been broken on ur end


moorehead, i would like a response to this...

u've seemed to comb over it twice now
</P>


I certainly made the argument that a strong Dline, especially run stoppers, make it easier for LB's.</P>




so we never had a convo that went like this:

MMB: LBs are the ones that make the plays, we're going to have problems vs the runs

Pappy: No, we're going to rely on the DLine to make the plays..


</P>


So in your little world, you are suggesting that I don't think we need linebackers?</P>


Lets just go 11 vs. 8. <FONT color=#ff0000>Yeah...thats what I think</FONT>.</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:21 PM
Matt is now frantically back clicking to find the convo from last week.

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 12:25 PM
lets all sit back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</P>


stop living in the past.</P>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</P>



It all depends on what you judge better buy I guess.

Statistically Lebron is and will be better than Kobe every year.

Kobe has much better fundamentals, post up game, jump shot and killer instinct.

I won't even mention the bling [;)]
</P>


lebron is 25. kobe is 31. just wait........</P>



My bad, I forgot...Lebron did win something.

http://blog.cleveland.com/cavs_impact/2009/02/large_Lebron-Trophy.jpg

Kind of similar to another one of your favorite athletes...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NwMmft2Mlzg/SXjydP_uebI/AAAAAAAAAqE/Miqd0e6oqE4/s320/AAGN181~Donovan-McNabb-2004-NFC-Championship-Trophy-Posters.jpg

P.S. Lebron will NOT finish with more rings than Kobe. Thanks for playing [;)]
</P>


thats your favorite athlete not mine...</P>


bron is mvp. THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN THE NBA. bron will finish with more rings then kobe when all is said and done. i hope i know you 10 years from now so i can laugh in your face when it happens.</P>


thanks for playing. [;)]</P>



Kobe has more Finals MVP's so HA! That one is better anyway...

Lebron has some catching up to do. Pretty soon Kobe will have to use both hands

http://www.nbahub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/2009-nba-mvp-kobe-bryant-05.jpg
</P>


kobe also has 6 years on lebron.... technically lebron can have more rings then kobe by the time he is 31 so lets relax young feller.. cause its all starting this year my dear friend.</P>

shocknaweny
05-04-2010, 12:27 PM
what are we arguing about today ??

shocknaweny
05-04-2010, 12:28 PM
Matt is now frantically back clicking to find the convo from last week.</P>


</P>


Linval Joseph stuff ???</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:29 PM
what are we arguing about today ??</P>


Whether or not Canadians can be trusted to tell the truth.</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:30 PM
Matt is now frantically back clicking to find the convo from last week.</P>


</P>


Linval Joseph stuff ???</P>


</P>


Its been 10 minutes. He's probably back to Tuesday by now. He'll get there.</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 12:33 PM
its all starting this year my dear friend.
If they beat Boston, Orlando then LA....otherwise not happening

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 12:34 PM
Matt is now frantically back clicking to find the convo from last week.

i dont need to, we all know your comments...

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 12:34 PM
what are we arguing about today ??</P>


Whether or not Canadians can be trusted to tell the truth.</P>


</P>


Well seeing as how Steve Nash IS the truth....I think we can sometimes make exceptions, wouldnt you say, Uncle Morehead? =]</P>

shocknaweny
05-04-2010, 12:37 PM
what are we arguing about today ??</P>


Whether or not Canadians can be trusted to tell the truth.</P>


</P>


</P>


hahahahhahahaha...nice " We are very, very sneaky ! "</P>

ibleedblue85
05-04-2010, 12:37 PM
its all starting this year my dear friend.
If they beat Boston, Orlando then LA....otherwise not happening
</P>


sit back and enjoy the ride with melandooo</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:40 PM
Matt is now frantically back clicking to find the convo from last week.

i dont need to, we all know your comments...


</P>


Couldn't find it, Huh?</P>


</P>


</P>


I am laughing my *** off right now Matt. And its all at your expense.</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:42 PM
Still laughing.</P>


</P>


Can't stop.</P>

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:43 PM
Now I'm down to a smile.</P>


That was fun Matt. Thanks.</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 12:43 PM
Still laughing.</P>


</P>


Can't stop.</P>


</P>


So are you LOLing, or are you LMAOnaising? ROFLcopters?</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 12:45 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!


bro, u called Hughes proven before this season even started.. THATS when i had to point out that u were just blowing him

Melky does have a better bat than Gardener, just not as good speed
noooo i said phil was MORE proven to start over joba.


and excuse me while i vomit from laughing so hard at melkys <font color="#ff0000">solid</font> .213 batting avg. compared to gardeners .347
granted its may, but come on matt.....

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:45 PM
Still laughing.</P>


</P>


Can't stop.</P>


</P>


So are you LOLing, or are you LMAOnaising? ROFLcopters?</P>


</P>


NEVER!!!!!</P>

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 12:48 PM
Still laughing.</P>


</P>


Can't stop.</P>


</P>


So are you LOLing, or are you LMAOnaising? ROFLcopters?</P>


</P>


NEVER!!!!!</P>


</P>


I love you Morehead.....write that down...</P>


actually nevermind....I think we can like each other just fine. Love is a strong word....</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 12:48 PM
Still laughing.</p>


</p>


Can't stop.</p>yea hes a funny guy when he smokes before work. he should do it more often. lol

shocknaweny
05-04-2010, 12:50 PM
U enjoying the NBA playoffs Lando ?

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 12:51 PM
Still laughing.</P>


</P>


Can't stop.</P>


</P>


So are you LOLing, or are you LMAOnaising? ROFLcopters?</P>


</P>


NEVER!!!!!</P>


</P>


I love you Morehead.....write that down...</P>


actually nevermind....I think we can like each other just fine. Love is a strong word....</P>


</P>


I'm going to lunch.</P>


I honor of my buddy Pizzle Stick, I'm going to Panera.</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 12:53 PM
Still laughing.</p>


</p>


Can't stop.</p>


</p>


So are you LOLing, or are you LMAOnaising? ROFLcopters?</p>


</p>


NEVER!!!!!</p>


</p>


I love you Morehead.....write that down...</p>


actually nevermind....I think we can like each other just fine. Love is a strong word....</p>


</p>


I'm going to lunch.</p>


I honor of my buddy Pizzle Stick, I'm going to Panera.</p>me tooo! what are you getting? thinking a whole frantega chicken and some chedda broc soup. i cant get enough of their soups. hmmmmm chedddddda

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 12:53 PM
Still laughing.</P>


</P>


Can't stop.</P>


</P>


So are you LOLing, or are you LMAOnaising? ROFLcopters?</P>


</P>


NEVER!!!!!</P>


</P>


I love you Morehead.....write that down...</P>


actually nevermind....I think we can like each other just fine. Love is a strong word....</P>


</P>


I'm going to lunch.</P>


I honor of my buddy Pizzle Stick, I'm going to Panera.</P>


</P>


ha! i dont know what i have to do with Panera, but it IS delicious</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 12:53 PM
Still laughing.</p>


</p>


Can't stop.</p>


</p>


So are you LOLing, or are you LMAOnaising? ROFLcopters?</p>


</p>


NEVER!!!!!</p>


</p>


I love you Morehead.....write that down...</p>


actually nevermind....I think we can like each other just fine. Love is a strong word....</p>


</p>


I'm going to lunch.</p>


I honor of my buddy Pizzle Stick, I'm going to Panera.</p>me tooo! what are you getting? thinking a whole frantega chicken and some chedda broc soup. i cant get enough of their soups. hmmmmm chedddddda

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 12:55 PM
??? dont know how that double post happened

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 01:01 PM
??? dont know how that double post happened
</P>


user error most likely ;]</P>

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 01:04 PM
its all starting this year my dear friend.
If they beat Boston, Orlando then LA....otherwise not happening
</p>


sit back and enjoy the ride with melandooo</p>
You are not the first girl who has said that...

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 01:06 PM
I love you Morehead
BUMP

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 01:06 PM
U enjoying the NBA playoffs Lando ?
LOOOOOOOVING IT

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:19 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!


bro, u called Hughes proven before this season even started.. THATS when i had to point out that u were just blowing him

Melky does have a better bat than Gardener, just not as good speed
noooo i said phil was MORE proven to start over joba.


and excuse me while i vomit from laughing so hard at melkys <font color="#ff0000">solid</font> .213 batting avg. compared to gardeners .347
granted its may, but come on matt.....


even tho that isn't what u said, i'll play along...

as a starter before this year in 21 starts Hughes has had over a 5.00 era... so how would that of been more proven?

Tex is batting .181 and David Freese is batting .358....

keep holding on to april numbers lol

EDIT: Also, i would like to mention that those 21 starts came over a 2 year span

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:20 PM
Matt is now frantically back clicking to find the convo from last week.

i dont need to, we all know your comments...


</p>


Couldn't find it, Huh?</p>


</p>


</p>


I am laughing my *** off right now Matt. And its all at your expense.</p>

lol i was at lunch, but now as soon as i get a break, which should be at the end of the day, i am going to qoute it and i WILL find it

MMB always gets his post

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:21 PM
Still laughing.</p>


</p>


Can't stop.</p>yea hes a funny guy when he smokes before work. he should do it more often. lol


am i here to amuse u?

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 01:21 PM
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MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:21 PM
Still laughing.</p>


</p>


Can't stop.</p>


</p>


So are you LOLing, or are you LMAOnaising? ROFLcopters?</p>


</p>


NEVER!!!!!</p>


</p>


I love you Morehead.....write that down...</p>


actually nevermind....I think we can like each other just fine. Love is a strong word....</p>


</p>


I'm going to lunch.</p>


I honor of my buddy Pizzle Stick, I'm going to Panera.</p>


</p>


ha! i dont know what i have to do with Panera, but it IS delicious</p>

i think its cuz ur soft, like panera bread....?

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 01:24 PM
Still laughing.</p>


</p>


Can't stop.</p>yea hes a funny guy when he smokes before work. he should do it more often. lol


am i here to amuse u?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?!?

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Sports/images-2/gladiator-movie-russell-crowe.jpg

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:26 PM
Still laughing.</p>


</p>


Can't stop.</p>yea hes a funny guy when he smokes before work. he should do it more often. lol


am i here to amuse u?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?!?

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Sports/images-2/gladiator-movie-russell-crowe.jpg


http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080215/Gangsters/Goodfellas-Joe-Pesci_l.jpg

dance spider dance

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 01:32 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!


bro, u called Hughes proven before this season even started.. THATS when i had to point out that u were just blowing him

Melky does have a better bat than Gardener, just not as good speed
noooo i said phil was MORE proven to start over joba.


and excuse me while i vomit from laughing so hard at melkys <font color="#ff0000">solid</font> .213 batting avg. compared to gardeners .347
granted its may, but come on matt.....


even tho that isn't what u said, i'll play along...

as a starter before this year in 21 starts Hughes has had over a 5.00 era... so how would that of been more proven?

Tex is batting .181 and David Freese is batting .358....

keep holding on to april numbers lol

EDIT: Also, i would like to mention that those 21 starts came over a 2 year span
and jobas era wasnt that great either. regardless of era if you watched him, like i did, you could tell he had good stuff. if he was already starting the year before joba, why switch them???????????dumb management......thats what thats called.

ok matt, would like to bet who will have a higher average by the end of the year?[:D]

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 01:35 PM
melky will be lucky if he hit .270 and bats in 60 ribs.

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:39 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!


bro, u called Hughes proven before this season even started.. THATS when i had to point out that u were just blowing him

Melky does have a better bat than Gardener, just not as good speed
noooo i said phil was MORE proven to start over joba.


and excuse me while i vomit from laughing so hard at melkys <font color="#ff0000">solid</font> .213 batting avg. compared to gardeners .347
granted its may, but come on matt.....


even tho that isn't what u said, i'll play along...

as a starter before this year in 21 starts Hughes has had over a 5.00 era... so how would that of been more proven?

Tex is batting .181 and David Freese is batting .358....

keep holding on to april numbers lol

EDIT: Also, i would like to mention that those 21 starts came over a 2 year span
and jobas era wasnt that great either. regardless of era if you watched him, like i did, you could tell he had good stuff. if he was already starting the year before joba, why switch them???????????dumb management......thats what thats called.

ok matt, would like to bet who will have a higher average by the end of the year?[:D]


He def had good stuff but lets not say Joba doesn't/didn't have good stuff

I would say Joba Chamberlain. Straight down, great velocity. Roger
Clemens had a very good slider, too. I think Jobas is better. - Jorge Posada

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-posada042710

Its called he wasn't starting because he WASNT proven and DIDNT show signs like he could last.

My whole point is that Melky is an every day lead off hitter, Gardener is batting 9th.... when he plays. Your trying to prove u were right after a month of baseball (not even), just saying u really have no argument

Talk to me in July....

Vaz = Wang

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:40 PM
melky will be lucky if he hit .270 and bats in 60 ribs.


usually lead off hitters dont kill the RBI's ESPECIALLY in the NL

and where are u projecting gardeners average to be?

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 01:45 PM
melky will be lucky if he hit .270 and bats in 60 ribs.


usually lead off hitters dont kill the RBI's

and where are u projecting gardeners average to be?
which is why i said hed be lucky to get 60.


i say hell bat around .280. along with around 50 stolen bases and range in left/center(until grandersons healthy) is much more then melky could give us.

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:50 PM
melky will be lucky if he hit .270 and bats in 60 ribs.


usually lead off hitters dont kill the RBI's

and where are u projecting gardeners average to be?
which is why i said hed be lucky to get 60.


i say hell bat around .280. along with around 50 stolen bases and range in left/center(until grandersons healthy) is much more then melky could give us.


lol okay but still, u say it like its a knock....

i really dont find much difference in .280 and .270...

as for stolen bases yea ur right, but Gardener doesn't have the arm melky did to gun people out or even just hold them on base off of fear.

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 01:53 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!


bro, u called Hughes proven before this season even started.. THATS when i had to point out that u were just blowing him

Melky does have a better bat than Gardener, just not as good speed
noooo i said phil was MORE proven to start over joba.


and excuse me while i vomit from laughing so hard at melkys <font color="#ff0000">solid</font> .213 batting avg. compared to gardeners .347
granted its may, but come on matt.....


even tho that isn't what u said, i'll play along...

as a starter before this year in 21 starts Hughes has had over a 5.00 era... so how would that of been more proven?

Tex is batting .181 and David Freese is batting .358....

keep holding on to april numbers lol

EDIT: Also, i would like to mention that those 21 starts came over a 2 year span
and jobas era wasnt that great either. regardless of era if you watched him, like i did, you could tell he had good stuff. if he was already starting the year before joba, why switch them???????????dumb management......thats what thats called.

ok matt, would like to bet who will have a higher average by the end of the year?[:D]


He def had good stuff but lets not say Joba doesn't/didn't have good stuff

I would say Joba Chamberlain. Straight down, great velocity. Roger
Clemens had a very good slider, too. I think Jobas is better. - Jorge Posada

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-posada042710

Its called he wasn't starting because he WASNT proven and DIDNT show signs like he could last.

My whole point is that Melky is an every day lead off hitter, Gardener is batting 9th.... when he plays. Your trying to prove u were right after a month of baseball (not even), just saying u really have no argument

Talk to me in July....

Vaz = Wang
wang&gt;vaz
lol no your whole point was NOT if melk was and everyday lead off hitter. you flat out said he could bring more to the table then gardener matt, and that trading him would hurt our outfield.

lol and that article. who are they comparing him too. and being hughes best pitch isnt his slider i would say the articles right. lol <font color="#000000">does he even throw a slider???</font> hahaha i know he does but i dont think iv ever seen him use it. he throws a nasty 2 seam, 4 seam, a good change, and knuckle curve like mooooose.

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 01:55 PM
good article by the way matt. amazing hes caught for over 200 pitchers lol

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 01:58 PM
oh no you didnt....</P>


Vaz isnt even CLOSE to as bad as Wang was last year!! Does Vazquez have anERA of 30.00 ?? Cuz thats what Wang had until he went to the bullpen after reassignment....</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 01:59 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!


bro, u called Hughes proven before this season even started.. THATS when i had to point out that u were just blowing him

Melky does have a better bat than Gardener, just not as good speed
noooo i said phil was MORE proven to start over joba.


and excuse me while i vomit from laughing so hard at melkys <font color="#ff0000">solid</font> .213 batting avg. compared to gardeners .347
granted its may, but come on matt.....


even tho that isn't what u said, i'll play along...

as a starter before this year in 21 starts Hughes has had over a 5.00 era... so how would that of been more proven?

Tex is batting .181 and David Freese is batting .358....

keep holding on to april numbers lol

EDIT: Also, i would like to mention that those 21 starts came over a 2 year span
and jobas era wasnt that great either. regardless of era if you watched him, like i did, you could tell he had good stuff. if he was already starting the year before joba, why switch them???????????dumb management......thats what thats called.

ok matt, would like to bet who will have a higher average by the end of the year?[:D]


He def had good stuff but lets not say Joba doesn't/didn't have good stuff

I would say Joba Chamberlain. Straight down, great velocity. Roger
Clemens had a very good slider, too. I think Jobas is better. - Jorge Posada

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-posada042710

Its called he wasn't starting because he WASNT proven and DIDNT show signs like he could last.

My whole point is that Melky is an every day lead off hitter, Gardener is batting 9th.... when he plays. Your trying to prove u were right after a month of baseball (not even), just saying u really have no argument

Talk to me in July....

Vaz = Wang
wang&gt;vaz
lol no your whole point was NOT if melk was and everyday lead off hitter. you flat out said he could bring more to the table then gardener matt, and that trading him would hurt our outfield.

lol and that article. who are they comparing him too. and being hughes best pitch isnt his slider i would say the articles right. lol <font color="#000000">does he even throw a slider???</font> hahaha i know he does but i dont think iv ever seen him use it. he throws a nasty 2 seam, 4 seam, a good change, and knuckle curve like mooooose.


Gardener may do more offensively, but its not a comparison defensively. He may of hurt our lineup (which im not even sure u could do with that lineup) but def not our literal outfield. We would of had a better fielding OF with Melky there.

They asked who has the best slider hes ever caught, Jorge said Joba. Infact, Jorge himself compared him to ROGER CLEMONS and said his pitch was better. The point of bringing it up is because you keep saying how sick Hughes stuff was, just pointing out how ur being ridiculous.


I know im not the best sometimes and things go over my head, but u really need reading comprehension help sometimes.

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 02:00 PM
melky will be lucky if he hit .270 and bats in 60 ribs.


usually lead off hitters dont kill the RBI's

and where are u projecting gardeners average to be?
which is why i said hed be lucky to get 60.


i say hell bat around .280. along with around 50 stolen bases and range in left/center(until grandersons healthy) is much more then melky could give us.


lol okay but still, u say it like its a knock....

i really dont find much difference in .280 and .270...

as for stolen bases yea ur right, but Gardener doesn't have the arm melky did to gun people out or even just hold them on base off of fear.


i said hell be lucky if he hits 270, i think hell be in the .250-.270. in a way it is a knock cause we had a better player sitting on the bench.......

gardener makes up for that with his range in the outfield. have you been watching him and granderson? they were catching almost everything out their. quite amazing. if only swish could run.....

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 02:00 PM
oh no you didnt....</p>


Vaz isnt even CLOSE to as bad as Wang was last year!! Does Vazquez have anERA of 30.00 ?? Cuz thats what Wang had until he went to the bullpen after reassignment....</p>

i dunnnooooooo

we'll see how vaz keeps it up

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 02:02 PM
good article by the way matt. amazing hes caught for over 200 pitchers lol


i posted it last week, u must of missed it

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 02:02 PM
oh no you didnt....</p>


Vaz isnt even CLOSE to as bad as Wang was last year!! Does Vazquez have anERA of 30.00 ?? Cuz thats what Wang had until he went to the bullpen after reassignment....</p>lol yea but im giving wang credit for winning 19 games and prior seasons. someone has too.lol


vaz is just a vag.

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 02:04 PM
Gardner &gt; Melky....no question...</P>


Gardner covering more ground = melky's arm....so it's a push...</P>


BUT since Melky doesnt have anything else to offer, the choice is clear...</P>


Melky is already a distant memory.</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 02:09 PM
</p>


Anyone who saw the Giants defense melt away last season understands that drastic changes were in order. That's why the team hired a new defensive coordinator, signed two veteran safeties and used five of their seven draft picks on defensive players. </p>


All this ensures a different look to a unit that also needs very different results. </p>


"While I would like to make guarantees, I can't," said Perry Fewell, who comes over from Buffalo to direct the Giants defense. "We've started out by drafting [Linval] Joseph and he's a pretty big guy. I'm going to demand that we be physical and play physical. The Giants defense is a physical defense, and we know that from history. I want to return to that defense." </p>


Perhaps Joseph will be a big part of the revitalization. Fewell mentioned him in an unsolicited reference, and there's no doubt the second-round draft pick from East Carolina made a positive first impression at last weekend's rookie mini-camp. </p>


While first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul struggled through back spasms that he said he gets every year around this time, Joseph at defensive tackle gained kudos from coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.nypost.com/t/Tom_Coughlin)for fighting through the demanding schedule (four practices in two days) to not only handle his own business but encourage those around him. </p>


"He had enough energy to be able to talk up to the other guys when they looked like they were dragging," said Coughlin, who described Joseph as "a big load that can run." </p>


The "Big Load" ran just fine to end the first practice after he scooped up a fumble, prompting loud, animated exhortations from Fewell. </p>


At 6-foot-4 and 319 pounds, Joseph isn't extra large in the Ted Washington/Grady Jackson/Tony Siragusa mold, but he's bigger than Barry Cofield, the veteran most likely to feel the playing-time squeeze if Joseph in his first season earns his way onto the field. </p>General manager <font color="#0000ff">Jerry Reese likens Joseph to a "human post"</font> and said the rookie will give the linebackers "a chance to run to the ball and he will block the inside."

<font color="#000000" size="3">Read into that what you will. Reese did not make any marquee moves to address the undefined middle-linebacker position</font>, which as of now is a competition featuring holdovers Jonathan Goff and Gerris Wilkinson and rookie Phillip Dillard, a fourth-round pick from Nebraska.

"First off, I can bring a big body," Joseph said. "I'm ready to do everything."





I think this article really backs up what Morehead was saying about not needing a veteran/proven MLB and the real issue was pass rushing. I believe Matt is right in some aspects about having someone back there but JR, TC and Perry all thinks it starts with pass rush and it has been proven to work for NY.

<div style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; text-align: left; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none;" id="TixyyLink">


</div>


</p>


Honestly, I understand Matt's concern about the MLB position. But there is no such thing as a "can't miss" draft choice. The FO obviously thinks what we have now at that position is capable of contributing to an outstandind defense. They also seemed determined not to give up too much to get a MLB, for fear that it would hurt us in other areas.</p>


A strong D line, and a good secondary (which I believe we have) along with very athletic LB's (which I believe we have) go a long way.</p>




and overkill dline i would say........

And we'll just see because of Goff doesn't get tremendously better with his reads and persuit angles im gonna be serving crow with hot sauce.
</p>


Sounds like you're rooting for our defense to suck.</p>thats what he does. by the way matt i have some crow for you to eat. phil hughes and gardener.



what crow do u have for me? All I said was don't crown somebody for what they do in April.. like i said come see me in july...

As for Gardener i always liked Gardener, just thought it was stupid to get rid of Melky for a over hyped bum like Vaz.
lol. i knew youd puss out. you shat all over hughes and gardener to make your points. right??? wat ya crow boyyyya




i don't get what ur getting at me for.. if he has a horrible May u guys are gonna **** on him. I never ****ted on Hughes to make my points about Joba, there was room in the rotation for both of them...

u guys are on crack

Gardener i liked as a part time player, which he kinda is. Majoriy of the time but i'll take Melky over Winn and Thames any day ofthe week...

its amazing with how many pages we had arguing the two of u still never grasped the point of anything...

I might of said I would of rather given up Gardener than Melky, that i'll eat crow on
once the crack hits your lippps....

lol whaat are youuu talking about?? you were all over hughes when you wanted joba to start. you riped him for a ****ty game at fenway, his era, and for a little stint in triple a. you said melky had a better bat then gardener. in fact you wanted to bet who would have a higher average. eaat up!!


bro, u called Hughes proven before this season even started.. THATS when i had to point out that u were just blowing him

Melky does have a better bat than Gardener, just not as good speed
noooo i said phil was MORE proven to start over joba.


and excuse me while i vomit from laughing so hard at melkys <font color="#ff0000">solid</font> .213 batting avg. compared to gardeners .347
granted its may, but come on matt.....


even tho that isn't what u said, i'll play along...

as a starter before this year in 21 starts Hughes has had over a 5.00 era... so how would that of been more proven?

Tex is batting .181 and David Freese is batting .358....

keep holding on to april numbers lol

EDIT: Also, i would like to mention that those 21 starts came over a 2 year span
and jobas era wasnt that great either. regardless of era if you watched him, like i did, you could tell he had good stuff. if he was already starting the year before joba, why switch them???????????dumb management......thats what thats called.

ok matt, would like to bet who will have a higher average by the end of the year?[:D]


He def had good stuff but lets not say Joba doesn't/didn't have good stuff

I would say Joba Chamberlain. Straight down, great velocity. Roger
Clemens had a very good slider, too. I think Jobas is better. - Jorge Posada

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-posada042710

Its called he wasn't starting because he WASNT proven and DIDNT show signs like he could last.

My whole point is that Melky is an every day lead off hitter, Gardener is batting 9th.... when he plays. Your trying to prove u were right after a month of baseball (not even), just saying u really have no argument

Talk to me in July....

Vaz = Wang
wang&gt;vaz
lol no your whole point was NOT if melk was and everyday lead off hitter. you flat out said he could bring more to the table then gardener matt, and that trading him would hurt our outfield.

lol and that article. who are they comparing him too. and being hughes best pitch isnt his slider i would say the articles right. lol <font color="#000000">does he even throw a slider???</font> hahaha i know he does but i dont think iv ever seen him use it. he throws a nasty 2 seam, 4 seam, a good change, and knuckle curve like mooooose.




They asked who has the best slider hes ever caught, Jorge said Joba. Infact, Jorge himself compared him to ROGER CLEMONS and said his pitch was better. <font color="#ff0000"><font color="#0000ff">The point of bringing it up is because you keep saying how sick Hughes stuff was, just pointing out how ur being ridiculous.</font>
</font>


not following you right there are you saying hes not good? this is a prime example of what you do. lmao. your ****ting on hughes to make your point on how good jobas slider is which has to do with what again??? lol when were we comparing sliders? or any pitches? what was jobas era this time last year?

lol the only thing thats ridiculous are hughes' numbers and your inability to eat crow

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 02:15 PM
Hughes &gt; Joba

Gardner &gt; Melky</P>


Therefore</P>


Pizzack &amp; Dezzz &gt; Matt</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 02:16 PM
Gardner &gt; Melky....no question...</p>


Gardner covering more ground = melky's arm....so it's a push...</p>


BUT since Melky doesnt have anything else to offer, the choice is clear...</p>


Melky is already a distant memory.</p>

I call you April babies, cuz ur all fools

no point in engaging in convos with those living and dying by each game in april

(unless its to talk up one of their guys that they love to blow up)

ShockeyShow
05-04-2010, 02:19 PM
Lmao.....Is it even possible to quote those quote boxes anymore than you 2 have already? I was trying to follow your discussion, but those f'n things got in my way.


http://alltalksports.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/floyd-mayweather-jr.jpg
Who's gonna stop Money May??? Pacquiao better watch out.

bandwgn86
05-04-2010, 02:21 PM
Gardner &gt; Melky....no question...</P>


Gardner covering more ground = melky's arm....so it's a push...</P>


BUT since Melky doesnt have anything else to offer, the choice is clear...</P>


Melky is already a distant memory.</P>




I call you April babies, cuz ur all fools

no point in engaging in convos with those living and dying by each game in april

(unless its to talk up one of their guys that they love to blow up)
speakin of April how bout dem Jays lol</P>


afternoon folks, cept Dezzz</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 02:21 PM
Gardner &gt; Melky....no question...</p>


Gardner covering more ground = melky's arm....so it's a push...</p>


BUT since Melky doesnt have anything else to offer, the choice is clear...</p>


Melky is already a distant memory.</p>

I call you April babies, cuz ur all fools

no point in engaging in convos with those living and dying by each game in april

(unless its to talk up one of their guys that they love to blow up)
hey man both the guys you hated and we liked are doing BIG THINGS. lol hughes will have a better year as a starter then joba did last year, and gardener will have a better year then melk. take it to the bank.

have another sip of hateraid.

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 02:22 PM
lets all sit
back and face reality for a second.. thank you
LOL...ok

League
Championships - None

Lebron Rings - None

Lebron in the
Finals - 1 ( got swept )

Any other reality checks?
</p>


stop living in the past.</p>


and realize lebron will be better then kobe.</p>



It all depends on what you judge better buy I guess.

Statistically
Lebron is and will be better than Kobe every year.

Kobe has much
better fundamentals, post up game, jump shot and killer instinct.

I
won't even mention the bling [;)]
</p>


lebron is 25. kobe is 31. just wait........</p>



My bad, I forgot...Lebron did win something.

http://blog.cleveland.com/cavs_impact/2009/02/large_Lebron-Trophy.jpg

Kind
of similar to another one of your favorite athletes...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NwMmft2Mlzg/SXjydP_uebI/AAAAAAAAAqE/Miqd0e6oqE4/s320/AAGN181~Donovan-McNabb-2004-NFC-Championship-Trophy-Posters.jpg

P.S.
Lebron will NOT finish with more rings than Kobe. Thanks for playing
[;)]
</p>


thats your favorite athlete not mine...</p>


bron is mvp. THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN THE NBA. bron will finish
with more rings then kobe when all is said and done. i hope i know you
10 years from now so i can laugh in your face when it happens.</p>


thanks for playing. [;)]</p>



Kobe has more Finals MVP's so HA! That one is better
anyway...

Lebron has some catching up to do. Pretty soon Kobe
will have to use both hands

http://www.nbahub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/2009-nba-mvp-kobe-bryant-05.jpg
</p>


kobe also has 6 years on lebron.... technically lebron can have more
rings then kobe by the time he is 31 so lets relax young feller.. cause
its all starting this year my dear friend.</p>

Thought you might like this...

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 02:22 PM
Gardner &gt; Melky....no question...</p>


Gardner covering more ground = melky's arm....so it's a push...</p>


BUT since Melky doesnt have anything else to offer, the choice is clear...</p>


Melky is already a distant memory.</p>




I call you April babies, cuz ur all fools

no point in engaging in convos with those living and dying by each game in april

(unless its to talk up one of their guys that they love to blow up)
speakin of April how bout dem Jays lol</p>


afternoon folks, cept Dezzz</p>[:P] you know i was just teasing you the other day, right?

JPizzack
05-04-2010, 02:25 PM
Gardner &gt; Melky....no question...</P>


Gardner covering more ground = melky's arm....so it's a push...</P>


BUT since Melky doesnt have anything else to offer, the choice is clear...</P>


Melky is already a distant memory.</P>




I call you April babies, cuz ur all fools

no point in engaging in convos with those living and dying by each game in april

(unless its to talk up one of their guys that they love to blow up)
</P>


Thx Lil Wayne...</P>


seeing as how we were talking these guys up BEFORE THE SEASON...and we are right...I think it's perfect!
What I can't figure out, is why you love Melky so much. In our consistent roster last year, he was pretty much the most unproven player, never did much of anything...ppl just liked him. He's pretty much lucky that Nady spent the year on the DL, as well as Gardner spending some time....cuz Mely was the weakest link. And coming from me, that should mean something, because I despise Swisher. lol

</P>

dezzzR
05-04-2010, 02:26 PM
Lmao.....Is it even possible to quote those quote boxes anymore than you 2 have already? I was trying to follow your discussion, but those f'n things got in my way.


http://alltalksports.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/floyd-mayweather-jr.jpg
Who's gonna stop Money May??? Pacquiao better watch out.


well now that we know mayweather has a glass jaw i think he should be the one to watch out. he was out on his feet in the 2nd round. then round 3 started the most boring fight iv seen in my life.

finally, hell fight someone good in their prime.....

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 02:26 PM
I call you April babies, cuz ur all fools



Really? lol Of all the people you hate...

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 02:26 PM
not following you right there are you saying hes not good? this is a prime example of what you do. lmao. your ****ting on hughes to make your point on how good jobas slider is which has to do with what again??? lol when were we comparing sliders? or any pitches? what was jobas era this time last year?

lol the only thing thats ridiculous are hughes' numbers and your inability to eat crow


im not ****ting on hughes. How is me saying that Joba has sick **** too ****ting on hughes? Does he put it in ur butt or something and tell u he loves you?

Your so defensive. Your argument was that Hughes has sick stuff and insinuated that Joba didn't. I am disputing that.

It has nothing to do with comparing sliders it has to do with their stuff overall. When you have a guy like Posada saying you have the best slider hes ever caught, then i think its safe to say that whoever hes talking baout definitly has some serious stuff.

Joba had a 3.13 era after april...

Hughes is being sick, no crow gets served in april, ESPECIALLY if your still ginvg Vaz a chance lol


So is it official? Hughes is set in stone legit and will be a dominant pitcher for the rest of his career, is this what your saying?

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 02:28 PM
Gardner &gt; Melky....no question...</p>


Gardner covering more ground = melky's arm....so it's a push...</p>


BUT since Melky doesnt have anything else to offer, the choice is clear...</p>


Melky is already a distant memory.</p>

I call you April babies, cuz ur all fools

no point in engaging in convos with those living and dying by each game in april

(unless its to talk up one of their guys that they love to blow up)
hey man both the guys you hated and we liked are doing BIG THINGS. lol hughes will have a better year as a starter then joba did last year, and gardener will have a better year then melk. take it to the bank.

have another sip of hateraid.


i never said i hated gardener or hughes, this just shows how ridic defensive u are....

just because i didn't hav ehim crowned preseason like u guys did, doesn't mean i hated him...

lol u guys are ridic

MattMeyerBud
05-04-2010, 02:30 PM
Lmao.....Is it even possible to quote those quote boxes anymore than you 2 have already? I was trying to follow your discussion, but those f'n things got in my way.


http://alltalksports.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/floyd-mayweather-jr.jpg
Who's gonna stop Money May??? Pacquiao better watch out.




goat pound for pound

Morehead State
05-04-2010, 02:30 PM
not following you right there are you saying hes not good? this is a prime example of what you do. lmao. your ****ting on hughes to make your point on how good jobas slider is which has to do with what again??? lol when were we comparing sliders? or any pitches? what was jobas era this time last year?

lol the only thing thats ridiculous are hughes' numbers and your inability to eat crow


im not ****ting on hughes. How is me saying that Joba has sick **** too ****ting on hughes? Does he put it in ur butt or something and tell u he loves you?

Your so defensive. Your argument was that Hughes has sick stuff and insinuated that Joba didn't. I am disputing that.

It has nothing to do with comparing sliders it has to do with their stuff overall. When you have a guy like Posada saying you have the best slider hes ever caught, then i think its safe to say that whoever hes talking baout definitly has some serious stuff.

Joba had a 3.13 era after april...

Hughes is being sick, no crow gets served in april, ESPECIALLY if your still ginvg Vaz a chance lol


So is it official? Hughes is set in stone legit and will be a dominant pitcher for the rest of his career, is this what your saying?
</P>


This is slowely becoming a JB Giants/Daven argument. Why don'y you both just get a friggin room and be done with it.</P>


How many different ways are there to say the same thing?</P>

bandwgn86
05-04-2010, 02:32 PM
Gardner &gt; Melky....no question...</P>


Gardner covering more ground = melky's arm....so it's a push...</P>


BUT since Melky doesnt have anything else to offer, the choice is clear...</P>


Melky is already a distant memory.</P>




I call you April babies, cuz ur all fools

no point in engaging in convos with those living and dying by each game in april

(unless its to talk up one of their guys that they love to blow up)
speakin of April how bout dem Jays lol</P>


afternoon folks, cept Dezzz</P>[:P] you know i was just teasing you the other day, right?
no you weren't, but i still love yah [;)]

bigblue4417
05-04-2010, 02:33 PM
How many different ways are there to say the same thing?</p>
Between Healthcare and the MLB debate you all should be pros by now.

ShockeyShow
05-04-2010, 02:33 PM
First off, thanks for that John Wall wallpaper....and I did **** myself....twice!



Anyhow....first offyou know I like Kobe, and if the Cavs lose before the finals then I'm all for the Lakeshow winning.


I just don't think I can keep comparing the 2....Kobe's teammates would destroy Lebron's in a pickup game. You put Lebron on the Lakers and you might as well not even bother playing the post season.

I will say that Lebron is being a little ***** about his elbow though....I truly think there is nothing wrong with his elbow. I think it's a gimmick to remove some of the pressure and to get his team to play harder this post season.