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JPizzack
08-30-2010, 02:53 PM
the problem with the cheap jersey sites like the one I use, is that they dont update their stock ...like ever...
So on that site there are still like a bunch of Plax, Shockey, Tiki, and Toomer jerseys...</P>


thats not necessary. granted, im gonna get a Strahan jersey from them...
Oh, and they have Clark..who the **** wants a CLark jersey?!?!</P>



http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/82823907.jpg?v=1&amp;c=IWSAsset&amp;k=2&amp;d=E713C2F924EEE033 9E3C5B35E309C6D8A0A875BF13DEC64A464D30039CE5D1FEE3 0A760B0D811297
</P>


cant see whatever that is....</P>

bandwgn86
08-30-2010, 03:03 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?

Morehead State
08-30-2010, 03:09 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>

bandwgn86
08-30-2010, 03:12 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>apparently so have the Sox.. dropped last 2 uh oh

MattMeyerBud
08-30-2010, 03:18 PM
cant see whatever that is....</p>

bet its just EATING at you isn't it

Morehead State
08-30-2010, 03:18 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>


apparently so have the Sox.. dropped last 2 uh oh</P>


They played hard. Just didn't have the horses. When it comes down to Nava, McDonald and Kalish (not to mention that utility infielder, Scutero) you have problems.</P>

bandwgn86
08-30-2010, 03:43 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>


apparently so have the Sox.. dropped last 2 uh oh</P>


They played hard. Just didn't have the horses. When it comes down to Nava, McDonald and Kalish (not to mention that utility infielder, Scutero) you have problems.</P>yawn, welcome to suckityville MH

JPizzack
08-30-2010, 03:48 PM
cant see whatever that is....</P>




bet its just EATING at you isn't it
</P>


lol...uhhh no. curious tho since you quoted me and then posted something lol</P>

Morehead State
08-30-2010, 03:49 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>


apparently so have the Sox.. dropped last 2 uh oh</P>


They played hard. Just didn't have the horses. When it comes down to Nava, McDonald and Kalish (not to mention that utility infielder, Scutero) you have problems.</P>


yawn, welcome to suckityville MH</P>


I do not accept that. You can't win it every year. This season reminds me a bit of the Giants season last year with the exception that there in no quit in the Red Sox.</P>


I may be dissappionted, but my team has kept fighting and I'm proud of them.</P>

JPizzack
08-30-2010, 03:53 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>


apparently so have the Sox.. dropped last 2 uh oh</P>


They played hard. Just didn't have the horses. When it comes down to Nava, McDonald and Kalish (not to mention that utility infielder, Scutero) you have problems.</P>


yawn, welcome to suckityville MH</P>


I do not accept that. You can't win it every year. This season reminds me a bit of the Giants season last year with the exception that there in no quit in the Red Sox.</P>


I may be dissappionted, but my team has kept fighting and I'm proud of them.</P>


</P>


we can all appreciate the fact that the AL east doesnt have lay-down teams anymore. I like how it sometimes feels like a toss up in our division.
But god i hope it doesnt feel like that in the NFC bEAST this year =\</P>

JPizzack
08-30-2010, 03:55 PM
also, maybe next year, the Orioles will have some fire under "THE SHOW"

ny06
08-30-2010, 03:56 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>


apparently so have the Sox.. dropped last 2 uh oh</P>


They played hard. Just didn't have the horses. When it comes down to Nava, McDonald and Kalish (not to mention that utility infielder, Scutero) you have problems.</P>


yawn, welcome to suckityville MH</P>


I do not accept that. You can't win it every year. This season reminds me a bit of the Giants season last year with the exception that there in no quit in the Red Sox.</P>


I may be dissappionted, but my team has kept fighting and I'm proud of them.</P>


</P>


You can still root for the Yankees this post season [;)]</P>


</P>

ny06
08-30-2010, 03:58 PM
also, maybe next year, the Orioles will have some fire under "THE SHOW"</P>


Not as long as Peter Angelos is the owner</P>

bandwgn86
08-30-2010, 03:59 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>


apparently so have the Sox.. dropped last 2 uh oh</P>


They played hard. Just didn't have the horses. When it comes down to Nava, McDonald and Kalish (not to mention that utility infielder, Scutero) you have problems.</P>


yawn, welcome to suckityville MH</P>


I do not accept that. You can't win it every year. This season reminds me a bit of the Giants season last year with the exception that there in no quit in the Red Sox.</P>


I may be dissappionted, but my team has kept fighting and I'm proud of them.</P>


</P>


You can still root for the Yankees this post season [;)]</P>


</P>that wasn't nice

JPizzack
08-30-2010, 04:03 PM
that wasn't nice</P>


but it WAS funny.</P>


RESPECT!!</P>

ny06
08-30-2010, 04:04 PM
i'mguessing Yankee and Sox fans will be cheering on the Jays for the next few days?</P>


I've taken a day off from thinking about the Sox right now.</P>


apparently so have the Sox.. dropped last 2 uh oh</P>


They played hard. Just didn't have the horses. When it comes down to Nava, McDonald and Kalish (not to mention that utility infielder, Scutero) you have problems.</P>


yawn, welcome to suckityville MH</P>


I do not accept that. You can't win it every year. This season reminds me a bit of the Giants season last year with the exception that there in no quit in the Red Sox.</P>


I may be dissappionted, but my team has kept fighting and I'm proud of them.</P>


</P>


You can still root for the Yankees this post season [;)]</P>


</P>


that wasn't nice</P>


I think I was very nice. It gives him a chance to expereince the postseason.</P>


And he can root for a winner</P>

bandwgn86
08-30-2010, 04:05 PM
that wasn't nice</P>


but it WAS funny.</P>


RESPECT!!</P>lol.. it was indeed

bandwgn86
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
everyone have a good weekend? </P>


</P>

JPizzack
08-30-2010, 04:26 PM
SIGN UP FOR THE PICK EM LEAGUE YOU OSI-HEADS!!!!!

bandwgn86
08-30-2010, 04:28 PM
SIGN UP FOR THE PICK EM LEAGUE YOU OSI-HEADS!!!!!osi i forgot.. sorry will do it now

JPizzack
08-30-2010, 04:39 PM
SIGN UP FOR THE PICK EM LEAGUE YOU OSI-HEADS!!!!!osi i forgot.. sorry will do it now</P>


&lt;3 &lt;------ this is for you!</P>

byron
08-30-2010, 09:14 PM
whats up BIG B!!!

Your coming out for the Lions game right
Yes I am alone with my son looking forward to it...

JPizzack
08-30-2010, 09:37 PM
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THEE THREAD!
I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE!!!!

AHEM....

<font size="5">I am the proud owner of a shiny ticket to this year's DET@NYG game on 10/17!</font>

You all get to see your favorite, sexiest poster, ME....bright and early that morning! How excited are YOU!? lol

patsrule666
08-30-2010, 09:37 PM
Is anyone here as concerned as I am about our football team?</P>


I know all the arguments. I know that we're using vanilla defenses. (by the way everybody is and few other teams look as bad as us). I know we looked this bad early in the 07 season.</P>


I know all that, but I would like to see some good football going into the season. Right now we look horrible and I wonder who out there we could actually beat.</P>


And after the crappy ending to last years season, is anyone concerned about our coach's ability to motivate our football team? This team quit last year vs. Carolina and Minn. and I'm not seeing the urgency this year. Has he lost the team?</P>


</P>


I,m sure I'm wrong but this is the least optimistic I've been going into a season in a very long time.</P>


Someone please convince me I'm wrong. Morehead needs good news.</P>


</P>


Its not the coaches job to make sure they are "motivated". It's to make sure they are prepared to play for that weeks opponent.</P>


At this level, if your relying on your coach for motivation, your in big trouble.</P>


Being outcoached is one thing, not getting up for the game is on the players.</P>

bigblue4417
08-30-2010, 10:36 PM
PITTSBURGH -- Just call Troy Polamalu (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4474) the man with the million dollar hair.</p>


</p>The long, flowing
black hair that tumbles out of Polamalu's helmet and down his back --
it's nearly three feet long -- has been insured for $1 million by Head
and Shoulders, the shampoo brand that is endorsed by the Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers) safety.

The
insurance was obtained through Lloyd's of London, which did not reveal
what must be done to Polamalu's hair for anyone to collect on the
policy.</p>

bigblue4417
08-30-2010, 10:39 PM
<font color="#ff0000" size="6">GO BRAVES</font>

JPizzack
08-30-2010, 11:14 PM
PITTSBURGH -- Just call Troy Polamalu (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4474) the man with the million dollar hair.</p>


</p>The long, flowing
black hair that tumbles out of Polamalu's helmet and down his back --
it's nearly three feet long -- has been insured for $1 million by Head
and Shoulders, the shampoo brand that is endorsed by the Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers) safety.

The
insurance was obtained through Lloyd's of London, which did not reveal
what must be done to Polamalu's hair for anyone to collect on the
policy.</p>

lmao. nice...
so who gets paid when it gets ripped out in a dog pile?!

ShockeyShow
08-31-2010, 02:09 AM
PITTSBURGH -- Just call Troy Polamalu (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4474) the man with the million dollar hair.</p>


</p>The long, flowing
black hair that tumbles out of Polamalu's helmet and down his back --
it's nearly three feet long -- has been insured for $1 million by Head
and Shoulders, the shampoo brand that is endorsed by the Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers) safety.

The
insurance was obtained through Lloyd's of London, which did not reveal
what must be done to Polamalu's hair for anyone to collect on the
policy.</p>

lmao. nice...
so who gets paid when it gets ripped out in a dog pile?!


Keamoeatu might actually live up to his name and take a chunk outta anyone who has the cojones to grab a lock

patsrule666
08-31-2010, 08:27 AM
<FONT color=#ff0000 size=6>GO BRAVES</FONT>

Hey Mr. Irwin. How are you sir?</P>


I see the job hunting not going so well. Keep your chin up kid....lol.</P>


I'm a firm believer in good things happen to good people, so i am sure you will be aiight..</P>


</P>

patsrule666
08-31-2010, 08:29 AM
MMB- I see 3 Matt's in Cheryl's pool. Is one of those you?</P>


If so, whatever you need me to do to help out, let me know...</P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 08:40 AM
mornin Pats...
And everyone else scouring the page but not posting....</P>


my tickets shipped already. so amped!</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 08:43 AM
MMB- I see 3 Matt's in Cheryl's pool. Is one of those you?</p>


If so, whatever you need me to do to help out, let me know...</p>

negatory sir get me in... i need to defend my crown

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 08:44 AM
whats up BIG B!!!

Your coming out for the Lions game right
Yes I am alone with my son looking forward to it...

haha now im officially excited

that and seeing mooreheads stache live and in 3d is enough reason just to go to the tailgate

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 08:45 AM
matt, change your avatar and location text. old news! =P

byron
08-31-2010, 09:08 AM
whats up BIG B!!!

Your coming out for the Lions game right
Yes I am alone with my son looking forward to it...

haha now im officially excited

that and seeing mooreheads stache live and in 3d is enough reason just to go to the tailgate
should be a great time can't wait..I think we are coming down the night before driving all night and strait to the game would be to much...find a reasonably priced motel some where...any ideas

frothozone
08-31-2010, 09:17 AM
You just need to find a motel, and it would be great. It is good idea.

byron
08-31-2010, 09:19 AM
mornin Pats...
And everyone else scouring the page but not posting....</P>


my tickets shipped already. so amped!</P> Morning..they are calling for a hot one up heretoday in the 90's you getting it down there?

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 09:19 AM
i wish ppl in mock drafts didnt SUCK at life...
one guy totally ****s things up and then you gotta start over immediately.</P>


some guy took Ahmad Bradshaw with the 11th pick....REALLY GUY?! REALLY?! </P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 09:22 AM
mornin Pats...
And everyone else scouring the page but not posting....</P>


my tickets shipped already. so amped!</P>


Morning..they are calling for a hot one up heretoday in the 90's you getting it down there?</P>


yezzzzir...supposed to be 90-92 every day this week i think...</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 09:22 AM
i wish ppl in mock drafts didnt SUCK at life...
one guy totally ****s things up and then you gotta start over immediately.</P>


some guy took Ahmad Bradshaw with the 11th pick....REALLY GUY?! REALLY?! </P>


</P>


I had one moron a few weeks ago who took like 10 kickers.</P>


Pure dumbass.</P>

byron
08-31-2010, 09:24 AM
i wish ppl in mock drafts didnt SUCK at life...
one guy totally ****s things up and then you gotta start over immediately.</P>


some guy took Ahmad Bradshaw with the 11th pick....REALLY GUY?! REALLY?! </P> just ah bit early on AB..probably just a kid who loves the giants

byron
08-31-2010, 09:26 AM
mornin Pats...
And everyone else scouring the page but not posting....</P>


my tickets shipped already. so amped!</P>


Morning..they are calling for a hot one up heretoday in the 90's you getting it down there?</P>


yezzzzir...supposed to be 90-92 every day this week i think...</P> yeah same here could draw that hurricane in close if it doesn't change

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 09:31 AM
mornin Pats...
And everyone else scouring the page but not posting....</P>


my tickets shipped already. so amped!</P>


Morning..they are calling for a hot one up heretoday in the 90's you getting it down there?</P>


yezzzzir...supposed to be 90-92 every day this week i think...</P>


yeah same here could draw that hurricane in close if it doesn't change</P>


really?? ahhh osi....i dont want to deal with more bad weather =\</P>

byron
08-31-2010, 09:36 AM
mornin Pats...
And everyone else scouring the page but not posting....</P>


my tickets shipped already. so amped!</P>


Morning..they are calling for a hot one up heretoday in the 90's you getting it down there?</P>


yezzzzir...supposed to be 90-92 every day this week i think...</P>


yeah same here could draw that hurricane in close if it doesn't change</P>


really?? ahhh osi....i dont want to deal with more bad weather =\</P>


heres your up to date weather forcast</P>


Since yesterday, not much has changed in our forecast. Earl should bring rainfall to the state from Friday afternoon to early Saturday morning. Additionally, it will be windy, but the center of the storm will be well off the coast. Yet, this storm is still several days away and the track can change, we will keep you updated. Nonetheless, no matter what track Earl takes, the wave action and surf will be dangerously high along the coast by the end of the week and it is advised to stay away from the shore. The waves will be comparable to Hurricane Bill when he passed by last year.</P>



do they really know? lol</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 09:43 AM
hiii everybodyyy
http://www.suitetake.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/drnick.png

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 09:45 AM
=O</P>


im far enough off the coast where that wont ever reachme....</P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 09:47 AM
<font color="#ff0000" size="6">GO BRAVES</font>

Hey Mr. Irwin. How are you sir?</p>


I see the job hunting not going so well. Keep your chin up kid....lol.</p>


I'm a firm believer in good things happen to good people, so i am sure you will be aiight..</p>


</p>
Oh I am. Just starting to get old. Still not in a financial crunch so that is what is important. Thanks for the kind words.

This Heyward kid just won't stop will he?

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 09:48 AM
hiii everybodyyy
http://www.suitetake.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/drnick.png
</P>


HI TODDLER D1CK!</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 09:53 AM
ok lets talk about ny giants football today. whats everyone think of the D? how many games we winning this year? its the most wonderful time of the year, lets start acting like it.

ny06
08-31-2010, 09:53 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 09:56 AM
<FONT color=#ff0000 size=6>GO BRAVES</FONT>

Hey Mr. Irwin. How are you sir?</P>


I see the job hunting not going so well. Keep your chin up kid....lol.</P>


I'm a firm believer in good things happen to good people, so i am sure you will be aiight..</P>


</P>



Oh I am. Just starting to get old. Still not in a financial crunch so that is what is important. Thanks for the kind words.

This Heyward kid just won't stop will he?
</P>


no offense to brave's fans, cuz i like Heyward...but i have no idea wtf yorue talking about. the guy was literally invisible for 3 months straight. just cuz he had a good week doesnt mean anything lol.
I WILL SAY though, that this guy will be a stud in a few years, and that should be pretty awesome.</P>

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 09:56 AM
morning boys.

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 09:57 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>


</P>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</P>

ny06
08-31-2010, 09:59 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>


</P>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</P>


</P>


That is true. Too many injuries</P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 10:01 AM
ok lets talk about ny giants football today. whats everyone think of the D? how many games we winning this year? its the most wonderful time of the year, lets start acting like it.
</P>


im still worried about our secondary outside the starters. Grant being the exception. we have 2 good corners, 1 adequate, but contstantly injured corner, and 2 good safeties....these guys can't play every single down, and that's what scares me lol.
still not confident with our LB situation...still feel we have MAJOR issues there....
And that leads me to our d-line....I can only hope they make me think they dont suck, and i'll say this. Justin Tuck better shut me up...because I'm sick of hearing about "how good is Osi really?" and then me be like, well where the **** is the rest of our "awesome" d-line?!

Is it wrong for me to be a little upset already? lol</P>

patsrule666
08-31-2010, 10:01 AM
MMB- I see 3 Matt's in Cheryl's pool. Is one of those you?</P>


If so, whatever you need me to do to help out, let me know...</P>

negatory sir get me in... i need to defend my crown
Shoot me $25 when you get the chance. I will cover 4U in the meantime.

patsrule666
08-31-2010, 10:03 AM
morning boys. Good morning. You getting anxious for the drafts?

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 10:06 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </p>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </p>


</p>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</p>


</p>


That is true. Too many injuries</p>theyll fight to the end.
good game last night, i hate our rotation, vaz to the pen? im not against it, just not now. what about mitre?

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 10:08 AM
Think Lando will still draft MJD?</P>


May be trouble in paradise.</P>


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5513887&amp;campaign=rss&amp;source=NFLHeadlines</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 10:09 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>


</P>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</P>


</P>


That is true. Too many injuries</P>


</P>


We had it going for a while. Got within 1/2 game and then the baseball gods exacted their wrath by taking out Pedroia, Martinez and Buchholtz in the same weekend.</P>

ny06
08-31-2010, 10:11 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>


</P>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</P>


</P>


That is true. Too many injuries</P>


</P>


We had it going for a while. Got within 1/2 game and then the baseball gods exacted their wrath by taking out Pedroia, Martinez and Buchholtz in the same weekend.</P>


</P>


Maybe George Steinbrenner had something to do with that [;)]</P>

Kase-1
08-31-2010, 10:12 AM
Whats goin on everybooty?!!?!??!!?


YAAAAAAOOOOOOWWWWWWW

ny06
08-31-2010, 10:13 AM
Tex does it every year. Has a slow start and then when the weather starts to warm up so does his play.</P>


</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 10:14 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>


</P>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</P>


</P>


That is true. Too many injuries</P>


</P>


We had it going for a while. Got within 1/2 game and then the baseball gods exacted their wrath by taking out Pedroia, Martinez and Buchholtz in the same weekend.</P>


</P>


Maybe George Steinbrenner had something to do with that [;)]</P>


</P>


Ted Williams severed torso would kick his ***.</P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 10:17 AM
Think Lando will still draft MJD?</p>
Yikes...

ny06
08-31-2010, 10:20 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>


</P>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</P>


</P>


That is true. Too many injuries</P>


</P>


We had it going for a while. Got within 1/2 game and then the baseball gods exacted their wrath by taking out Pedroia, Martinez and Buchholtz in the same weekend.</P>


</P>


Maybe George Steinbrenner had something to do with that [;)]</P>


</P>


Ted Williams severed torso would kick his ***.</P>


</P>


How so, he has no head to know where to kick. </P>

ny06
08-31-2010, 10:22 AM
Who is going to be the al mvp?</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 10:24 AM
Tex does it every year. Has a slow start and then when the weather starts to warm up so does his play.</p>


</p>hes been lighting **** up....triple short of the cycle last night. so is thames. "WHO IS THIS GUUYYiiie?!?"

ny06
08-31-2010, 10:25 AM
Tex does it every year. Has a slow start and then when the weather starts to warm up so does his play.</P>


</P>


hes been lighting **** up....triple short of the cycle last night. so is thames. "WHO IS THIS GUUYYiiie?!?"
</P>


Thames is great off the bench. Comes up with key hits</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 10:25 AM
Who is going to be the al mvp?</p> miguel cabrera.

patsrule666
08-31-2010, 10:28 AM
<FONT color=#ff0000 size=6>GO BRAVES</FONT>

Hey Mr. Irwin. How are you sir?</P>


I see the job hunting not going so well. Keep your chin up kid....lol.</P>


I'm a firm believer in good things happen to good people, so i am sure you will be aiight..</P>


</P>



Oh I am. Just starting to get old. Still not in a financial crunch so that is what is important. Thanks for the kind words.

This Heyward kid just won't stop will he?
</P>


no offense to brave's fans, cuz i like Heyward...but i have no idea wtf yorue talking about. the guy was literally invisible for 3 months straight. just cuz he had a good week doesnt mean anything lol.
I WILL SAY though, that this guy will be a stud in a few years, and that should be pretty awesome.</P>


No offense taken..lol.</P>


Yeah, to be honest i really did'nt understand all the hype on the poor kid early on this season.</P>


That kind of hype is usually reserved for players from the mercenary teams like NY + BOS...</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 10:28 AM
Whats goin on everybooty?!!?!??!!?


YAAAAAAOOOOOOWWWWWWW
how was govnaaas island?

ny06
08-31-2010, 10:28 AM
Who is going to be the al mvp?</P>


miguel cabrera.
</P>


I agree.</P>


But Cano is having a monster season</P>

patsrule666
08-31-2010, 10:28 AM
Who is going to be the al mvp?</P> miguel cabrera.
Josh Hamilton...

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 10:30 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </p>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </p>


</p>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</p>


</p>


That is true. Too many injuries</p>


</p>


We had it going for a while. Got within 1/2 game and then the baseball gods exacted their wrath by taking out Pedroia, Martinez and Buchholtz in the same weekend.</p>


</p>


Maybe George Steinbrenner had something to do with that [;)]</p>


</p>


Ted Williams severed torso would kick his ***.</p>


</p>


How so, he has no head to know where to kick. </p>
Psshhh, like that matters. Did you see what the headless horseman can do?

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 10:33 AM
Who is going to be the al mvp?</p> miguel cabrera.
Josh Hamilton...its close for sure
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamiljo03.shtml (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cabremi01.shtml)
<a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cabremi01.shtml">
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cabremi01.shtml</a>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 10:38 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>


</P>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</P>


</P>


That is true. Too many injuries</P>


</P>


We had it going for a while. Got within 1/2 game and then the baseball gods exacted their wrath by taking out Pedroia, Martinez and Buchholtz in the same weekend.</P>


</P>


Maybe George Steinbrenner had something to do with that [;)]</P>


</P>


Ted Williams severed torso would kick his ***.</P>


</P>


How so, he has no head to know where to kick. </P>


</P>


He's Ted Williams.</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 10:38 AM
The AL East is looking to be a close one all the way to the end of the season. </P>


The Red Sox are in the rear view mirrior fading </P>


</P>


Its been an uphill battle all year.</P>


</P>


That is true. Too many injuries</P>


</P>


We had it going for a while. Got within 1/2 game and then the baseball gods exacted their wrath by taking out Pedroia, Martinez and Buchholtz in the same weekend.</P>


</P>


Maybe George Steinbrenner had something to do with that [;)]</P>


</P>


Ted Williams severed torso would kick his ***.</P>


</P>


How so, he has no head to know where to kick. </P>


</P>


He's Ted Williams.</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 10:41 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 10:45 AM
Who is going to be the al mvp?</P>


miguel cabrera.
Josh Hamilton...</P>


Josh Hamilton no doubt, unless Cano puts a MONSTROUS september together.
Cabrera will get consideration, but Detroit is awful, and that weighs more heavily than you think. Hamilton is the favorite to win at this point id say</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:45 AM
matt, change your avatar and location text. old news! =P

dont tell me what to do, ur not my father

[:@]

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 10:46 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</P>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</P>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 10:47 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</P>


I thought I heard Eli say "Pizzlestick blows".</P>


At least thats howI remember it.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:47 AM
whats up BIG B!!!

Your coming out for the Lions game right
Yes I am alone with my son looking forward to it...

haha now im officially excited

that and seeing mooreheads stache live and in 3d is enough reason just to go to the tailgate
should be a great time can't wait..I think we are coming down the night before driving all night and strait to the game would be to much...find a reasonably priced motel some where...any ideas

extended stay in east rutherford or rutherford. I forget where exactly. If u do it online you can get a a room for like 70 bucks. Closest hotel to the stadium that ur not gonna hvae to pay an arm and leg for, pretty clean too..

It ain't the MArriot though.

Ask blondie shes been the... oh wait, she may not remember being there. My socks n sandles do though

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:48 AM
You just need to find a motel, and it would be great. It is good idea.


okaaaaaaaay?

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 10:48 AM
matt, change your avatar and location text. old news! =P

dont tell me what to do, ur not my father

[:@]
</P>


do it son! dont make me get the belt!!</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 10:48 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</P>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</P>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</P>


</P>


I will make you a gentleman's wager that Bradshaw runs for 1000 yards.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:48 AM
i wish ppl in mock drafts didnt SUCK at life...
one guy totally ****s things up and then you gotta start over immediately.</p>


some guy took Ahmad Bradshaw with the 11th pick....REALLY GUY?! REALLY?! </p> just ah bit early on AB..probably just a kid who loves the giants

i took him in the 4th of my big money league... i had to have him. I think he busts out this year

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:49 AM
hiii everybodyyy
http://www.suitetake.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/drnick.png



HI DR. NICK!

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 10:49 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</P>


I thought I heard Eli say "Pizzlestick blows".</P>


At least thats howI remember it.</P>


</P>


actually he said **** boston, go NY</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:50 AM
MMB- I see 3 Matt's in Cheryl's pool. Is one of those you?</p>


If so, whatever you need me to do to help out, let me know...</p>

negatory sir get me in... i need to defend my crown
Shoot me $25 when you get the chance. I will cover 4U in the meantime.

will do...

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:51 AM
MMB- I see 3 Matt's in Cheryl's pool. Is one of those you?</p>


If so, whatever you need me to do to help out, let me know...</p>

negatory sir get me in... i need to defend my crown
Shoot me $25 when you get the chance. I will cover 4U in the meantime.

will do...

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 10:52 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</p>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</p>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</p> youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:52 AM
Think Lando will still draft MJD?</p>


May be trouble in paradise.</p>


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5513887&amp;campaign=rss&amp;source=NFLHeadlines</p>

nothin new

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 10:53 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</P>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</P>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</P>


</P>


I will make you a gentleman's wager that Bradshaw runs for 1000 yards.</P>


</P>


ha. ok what is at stake?</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:54 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."


LMAO

i got a decision week one of my big money league now... Bradshaw or Forte

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 10:54 AM
matt, change your avatar and location text. old news! =P

dont tell me what to do, ur not my father

[:@]
</p>


do it son! dont make me get the belt!!</p>

i like it when ur kinky

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 10:55 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</P>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</P>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</P>


youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.
</P>


i dont bet.
but i would say the rookieMatthews from SD has a better season. In fact if you put him on our team i bet we get the same results as bradshaw</P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 10:56 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."


LMAO

i got a decision week one of my big money league now... Bradshaw or Forte
</P>


i gotta see Forte before i roll the dice on that guy again. He was a disappontment last year...</P>

Kase-1
08-31-2010, 11:00 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."


LMAO

i got a decision week one of my big money league now... Bradshaw or Forte
</p>


i gotta see Forte before i roll the dice on that guy again. He was a disappontment last year...</p>YIKES, Forte!?!?!?!?

That guy is running behind one of, if not THE worst run blocking line in football

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:01 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</p>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</p>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</p>


youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.
</p>


i dont bet.
but i would say the rookieMatthews from SD has a better season. In fact if you put him on our team i bet we get the same results as bradshaw</p> who doesnt bet? you os filled vagina, stop being a puss. ill even put money on bradshaw having a better season than matthews. chargers are a pass first team. turner can be just as bad as andy reid with the passing attack.

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 11:09 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</P>


</P>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 11:10 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;msg&quot;}">To get to 75,
Giants have placed QB Jim Sorgi, <font color="#0000ff">WR Sinorice Moss</font> and LB Adrian Tracy
on IR; OL Kevin Boothe to reserve/PUP; Nyan Boateng waived #nyg</h6>
Get this guy off our ****ing team...

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:15 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</p>


</p>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</p>sent it yesterday.

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:16 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;msg&quot;}">To get to 75,
Giants have placed QB Jim Sorgi, <font color="#0000ff">WR Sinorice Moss</font> and LB Adrian Tracy
on IR; OL Kevin Boothe to reserve/PUP; Nyan Boateng waived #nyg</h6>
Get this guy off our ****ing team...

lol raaaaghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wtf

im telling you tc must like using him in practice, i cant think of any other reason.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 11:16 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."


LMAO

i got a decision week one of my big money league now... Bradshaw or Forte
</p>


i gotta see Forte before i roll the dice on that guy again. He was a disappontment last year...</p>YIKES, Forte!?!?!?!?

That guy is running behind one of, if not THE worst run blocking line in football


he'll make up for it in receiving and being the MArshall Faulk of MArtz's offense. Not to mention the way they air it out will open it up for him like it did for Grant in GB

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 11:22 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</P>


</P>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</P>


sent it yesterday.
</P>


better hope its here by thursday when i get home from work you ****.</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:23 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</p>


</p>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</p>


sent it yesterday.
</p>


better hope its here by thursday when i get home from work you ****.</p>really? youre going to do me like that???

Kase-1
08-31-2010, 11:28 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."


LMAO

i got a decision week one of my big money league now... Bradshaw or Forte
</p>


i gotta see Forte before i roll the dice on that guy again. He was a disappontment last year...</p>YIKES, Forte!?!?!?!?

That guy is running behind one of, if not THE worst run blocking line in football


he'll make up for it in receiving and being the MArshall Faulk of MArtz's offense. Not to mention the way they air it out will open it up for him like it did for Grant in GB
I wouldnt go so far and compare him to Marshall Faulk, but if he didnt have the hands he does, he'd be fantasy trash.

While GB's O-Line is garbage (just like Chi's) there's much more versatility in their offense to open it up for Ryan Grant...... Chi-Town, not so much

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 11:28 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</P>


</P>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</P>


sent it yesterday.
</P>


better hope its here by thursday when i get home from work you ****.</P>


really? youre going to do me like that???
</P>


ohhh snap! aint that some osi</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 11:29 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</p>


</p>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</p>


sent it yesterday.
</p>


better hope its here by thursday when i get home from work you ****.</p>really? youre going to do me like that???


u did urself like that FOO!

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 11:30 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</p>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</p>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</p>


youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.
</p>


i dont bet.
but i would say the rookieMatthews from SD has a better season. In fact if you put him on our team i bet we get the same results as bradshaw</p>

Dezz I'll take that bet, but if you accept you better pay up MMB knows I'm not messing around.

These is the stips, 900+ yards (RUSHING) and 5TD's (RUSHING) any injury that sidelines him for 2+ weeks and I'll give you the option of dropping the bet and calling it even.

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 11:31 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</P>


</P>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</P>


sent it yesterday.
</P>


better hope its here by thursday when i get home from work you ****.</P>


really? youre going to do me like that???
</P>


ANYONES money not in isnt drafting a team. im not spotting money for people again this is bull**** and half the reason i hate running these leagues. you ALL knew since last year that we would be doing it again not to mention we starting talking fantasy in early July. original due date was 8/20. that came and went.. the only reason the due date was pushed back was cause the draft date was pushed back but im not chasing people down again... i play miss nice girl and some of you walk all over me... i play ***** and you bow down at me feet...... therefore, ill stick to the ***** [;)]</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 11:31 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."


LMAO

i got a decision week one of my big money league now... Bradshaw or Forte
</p>


i gotta see Forte before i roll the dice on that guy again. He was a disappontment last year...</p>YIKES, Forte!?!?!?!?

That guy is running behind one of, if not THE worst run blocking line in football


he'll make up for it in receiving and being the MArshall Faulk of MArtz's offense. Not to mention the way they air it out will open it up for him like it did for Grant in GB
I wouldnt go so far and compare him to Marshall Faulk, but if he didnt have the hands he does, he'd be fantasy trash.

While GB's O-Line is garbage (just like Chi's) there's much more versatility in their offense to open it up for Ryan Grant...... Chi-Town, not so much


no no no no no

im not comparing him to fualk, hes just gonna be the faulk of that offense. He'll play that role and he has the receiving ability to do it.

You gotta keep in mind MArtz and Cutler is going to be a nasty comibination... I think Forte opens up this year. Plus i go thim 2nd to last pick in the third round. I liked the value and orll of the dice with it. Either way I think AB ends up beasting so he'll prolly end up my RB2

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 11:32 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</p>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</p>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</p>


youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.
</p>


i dont bet.
but i would say the rookieMatthews from SD has a better season. In fact if you put him on our team i bet we get the same results as bradshaw</p>

Dezz I'll take that bet, but if you accept you better pay up MMB knows I'm not messing around.

These is the stips, 900+ yards (RUSHING) and 5TD's (RUSHING) any injury that sidelines him for 2+ weeks and I'll give you the option of dropping the bet and calling it even.


pshh.. my fantasy performance here last year was subpar... i actually made a hundo on u with our bets...

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:34 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</p>


</p>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</p>


sent it yesterday.
</p>


better hope its here by thursday when i get home from work you ****.</p>really? youre going to do me like that???


u did urself like that FOO!
i sent it monday, i didnt know their was a deadline. just send it back if it doesnt get there in time amanda.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 11:35 AM
and as underperforming as forte had last year , he did 1400 total yards. I expect him to bounce back

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:35 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</p>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</p>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</p>


youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.
</p>


i dont bet.
but i would say the rookieMatthews from SD has a better season. In fact if you put him on our team i bet we get the same results as bradshaw</p>

Dezz I'll take that bet, but if you accept you better pay up MMB knows I'm not messing around.

These is the stips, 900+ yards (RUSHING) and 5TD's (RUSHING) any injury that sidelines him for 2+ weeks and I'll give you the option of dropping the bet and calling it even.
easy money. lets do it.

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 11:40 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KASEMONEYYYY!!!!!!!

Kase-1
08-31-2010, 11:41 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."


LMAO

i got a decision week one of my big money league now... Bradshaw or Forte
</p>


i gotta see Forte before i roll the dice on that guy again. He was a disappontment last year...</p>YIKES, Forte!?!?!?!?

That guy is running behind one of, if not THE worst run blocking line in football


he'll make up for it in receiving and being the MArshall Faulk of MArtz's offense. Not to mention the way they air it out will open it up for him like it did for Grant in GB
I wouldnt go so far and compare him to Marshall Faulk, but if he didnt have the hands he does, he'd be fantasy trash.

While GB's O-Line is garbage (just like Chi's) there's much more versatility in their offense to open it up for Ryan Grant...... Chi-Town, not so much


no no no no no

im not comparing him to fualk, hes just gonna be the faulk of that offense. He'll play that role and he has the receiving ability to do it.

You gotta keep in mind MArtz and Cutler is going to be a nasty comibination... I think Forte opens up this year. Plus i go thim 2nd to last pick in the third round. I liked the value and orll of the dice with it. Either way I think AB ends up beasting so he'll prolly end up my RB2


Martz and Cutlet will be a nice combo, but that wont change the fact the run game is gonna suffer and the Line will be bent over and done dirty

...2nd to last pick in the 3rd, hmmm not bad. Hell he's probably one of the poster child's for 'Boom or Bust' in EVERYBODYS list, but then again he cant be worse than last year, LOL

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 11:41 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</p>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</p>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</p>


youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.
</p>


i dont bet.
but i would say the rookieMatthews from SD has a better season. In fact if you put him on our team i bet we get the same results as bradshaw</p>

Dezz I'll take that bet, but if you accept you better pay up MMB knows I'm not messing around.

These is the stips, 900+ yards (RUSHING) and 5TD's (RUSHING) any injury that sidelines him for 2+ weeks and I'll give you the option of dropping the bet and calling it even.
easy money. lets do it.


dont worry dezz, its a lock...

Daven just won the fantasy bet last year cuz i **** the bed relying on Jacobs -- i owned him in these type bets and he even got lucky with the Anthony Gonzalez bet cuz he went down for the year week 1

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 11:42 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</p>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</p>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</p>


youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.
</p>


i dont bet.
but i would say the rookieMatthews from SD has a better season. In fact if you put him on our team i bet we get the same results as bradshaw</p>

Dezz I'll take that bet, but if you accept you better pay up MMB knows I'm not messing around.

These is the stips, 900+ yards (RUSHING) and 5TD's (RUSHING) any injury that sidelines him for 2+ weeks and I'll give you the option of dropping the bet and calling it even.
easy money. lets do it.


Alright [B] that makes it offical I'll send you PM's as reminders during the course of the season.

Kase-1
08-31-2010, 11:42 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KASEMONEYYYY!!!!!!!.....SOMEONE is gonna get 'Draft Day Drunk' tonight off that Jameson Special Reserve!!!!!!

Dont worry, I wont wear sandals, LOL

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 11:46 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KASEMONEYYYY!!!!!!!.....SOMEONE is gonna get 'Draft Day Drunk' tonight off that Jameson Special Reserve!!!!!!

Dont worry, I wont wear sandals, LOL


sandles ain't bad... easy hose off

its when u incoporate the socks which makes things sticky

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:48 AM
eli manning says he expects bradshaw to be the starting back on the michael kay show yesterday. he then added "yeaa what?! **** you pizz."
</p>


and guess what? he'll have the same ****ing 600 yard 5 TD season he always has...it doesnt matter. what do you not get??</p>


no change for AB unless the carries go 70/30 in Bradshaw's favor, it doesnt mean anything except they are looking to switch it up...have bradshaw pound defenses when they are tired...or soemthing...</p>


youre so wrong its funny, 100 bucks says ab gets +900 yards and +5tds. baring injury of course.
</p>


i dont bet.
but i would say the rookieMatthews from SD has a better season. In fact if you put him on our team i bet we get the same results as bradshaw</p>

Dezz I'll take that bet, but if you accept you better pay up MMB knows I'm not messing around.

These is the stips, 900+ yards (RUSHING) and 5TD's (RUSHING) any injury that sidelines him for 2+ weeks and I'll give you the option of dropping the bet and calling it even.
easy money. lets do it.


dont worry dezz, its a lock...

Daven just won the fantasy bet last year cuz i **** the bed relying on Jacobs -- i owned him in these type bets and he even got lucky with the Anthony Gonzalez bet cuz he went down for the year week 1
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.

Kase-1
08-31-2010, 11:49 AM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:55 AM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL
ohh you know, no big deal, just 400000 people showed including mlks daughters, one gave a speech. as oppose to the racist al sharptons few thousand.[;)]

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 11:56 AM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL


I won't get on you for the off base comment because its your B-day and because it's my Lunch time and because I just won 100$

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 11:58 AM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</P>


</P>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</P>


sent it yesterday.
</P>


better hope its here by thursday when i get home from work you ****.</P>


really? youre going to do me like that???


u did urself like that FOO!
i sent it monday, <FONT color=#ff0000>i didnt know their was a deadline</FONT>. just send it back if it doesnt get there in time amanda.
</P>


there i fixed it for you. and thats BULL****. everyone knew cause i said it a million times. the draft is this weekend sooo everyone knew money had to be in before then because last year i was chasing ppl down and threating to lock teams and im not doing it again this year. esp cause theres 12 more ppl added into the mix. if it was mailed yesterday it should be here</P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 11:58 AM
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.
</P>


you know the term innocent till proven guilty? how about mediocre till proven awesome.</P>


im a Giants fan, so I hope I eat crow on this one, trust me....but i dont give him **** till I see it.</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 11:59 AM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL


I won't get on you for the off base comment because its your B-day and because it's my Lunch time and because I just won 100$
haha keep sleeping ab. is the bet still on if he breaks both his ankles and continues to play?lol

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 12:02 PM
im still missing money from 3 people in the A league. you know who you are and none of you have said one word to me about it soooo im assuming its in the mail. deadline is thursday and if your money isnt in then you arent drafting. we will drop down to 10 teams if we have to or if it is an uneven # i will pull someone up from the B league.</p>


</p>


LET ME KNOW ASAP</p>


sent it yesterday.
</p>


better hope its here by thursday when i get home from work you ****.</p>


really? youre going to do me like that???


u did urself like that FOO!
i sent it monday, <font color="#ff0000">i didnt know their was a deadline</font>. just send it back if it doesnt get there in time amanda.
</p>


there i fixed it for you. and thats BULL****. everyone knew cause i said it a million times. the draft is this weekend sooo everyone knew money had to be in before then because last year i was chasing ppl down and threating to lock teams and im not doing it again this year. esp cause theres 12 more ppl added into the mix. if it was mailed yesterday it should be here</p>no its my fault, i have selective reading. if its not there on time just send it back please. but yea, it should be there by then.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 12:04 PM
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.
</p>


you know the term innocent till proven guilty? how about mediocre till proven awesome.</p>


im a Giants fan, so I hope I eat crow on this one, trust me....but i dont give him **** till I see it.</p>

shall i point the inconsistencies of that comment and how u handled Hughes?

Alrighty then

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 12:08 PM
is anybody else REALLY happy Sorgi is on IR besides me?

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 12:10 PM
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.
</p>


you know the term innocent till proven guilty? how about mediocre till proven awesome.</p>


im a Giants fan, so I hope I eat crow on this one, trust me....but i dont give him **** till I see it.</p>

shall i point the inconsistencies of that comment and how u handled Hughes?

Alrighty then
did you not see all of these plays?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3MkLCRkPIM

if you dont have youtube watch it when youre home. favorite ones against baltimore when he jukes ray lewis, yea thee ray lewis.

Kase-1
08-31-2010, 12:23 PM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL
ohh you know, no big deal, just 400000 people showed including mlks daughters, one gave a speech. as oppose to the racist al sharptons few thousand.[;)]
WOW, more hate mongers on the eastern seaboard than I thought..... And you know that these speakers get a HEFTY reimbursement for their appearances right???

Kase-1
08-31-2010, 12:28 PM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL


I won't get on you for the off base comment because its your B-day and because it's my Lunch time and because I just won 100$
I just love getting under your skin..... I HAD to make some sort of comment to bring ya out of the woodwork

Im off to enjoy the day, hitting up this seafood spot on LI that does 2 Lobsters, corn and potato's for $20 or possibly this OUTSTANDING Bodega for some pernil &amp; arroz y gandules, maduros and HOPEFULLY an empenada or 3 (Roast pork with rice and pigeon peas, sweet plantains, and a meat pastry)

Either way its gonna be a day full of Jameson, Kush, Delicous food and Women with loose morals.....


WEPA!!!!!!

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 12:37 PM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL
ohh you know, no big deal, just 400000 people showed including mlks daughters, one gave a speech. as oppose to the racist al sharptons few thousand.[;)]
WOW, more hate mongers on the eastern seaboard than I thought..... And you know that these speakers get a HEFTY reimbursement for their appearances right???
"they might have the stage(lincoln memorial) but THEY can never take OUR day." right from the racist lips himself. bill o had him tripping over his own words last night. it was awesome. did you listen to any thing beck said? what did he say that ensued hate?

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 12:48 PM
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.
</P>


you know the term innocent till proven guilty? how about mediocre till proven awesome.</P>


im a Giants fan, so I hope I eat crow on this one, trust me....but i dont give him **** till I see it.</P>




shall i point the inconsistencies of that comment and how u handled Hughes?

Alrighty then
</P>


what? why? ive been a Hughes supporter all year! Even when he had rough outtings! I said he had it in him...what exactly was I inconsistent about??
If this is even about Joba again, then just stop....cuz THAT was consistent in my argument that Hughes had a better 09 than Joba...absolutely was the case...and guess who had a good year starting(Hughes)? guess who struggled with even less innings(Joba)?!
Soooo basically I've never been wrong about that...</P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 12:52 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</P>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 12:53 PM
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.
</p>


you know the term innocent till proven guilty? how about mediocre till proven awesome.</p>


im a Giants fan, so I hope I eat crow on this one, trust me....but i dont give him **** till I see it.</p>




shall i point the inconsistencies of that comment and how u handled Hughes?

Alrighty then
</p>


what? why? ive been a Hughes supporter all year! Even when he had rough outtings! I said he had it in him...what exactly was I inconsistent about??
If this is even about Joba again, then just stop....cuz THAT was consistent in my argument that Hughes had a better 09 than Joba...absolutely was the case...and guess who had a good year starting(Hughes)? guess who struggled with even less innings(Joba)?!
Soooo basically I've never been wrong about that...</p>

na u crowned him before this season with dezz and pretty much bsaed it off one game where he almost had a perfect game...

just sayin, there wasn't enough to crown Hughes but u guys were... so how could u com eback and say for Bradshaw there hasn't been much. Guy averages 5.2 a carry over his career on 250+ carries.

Only thing not proven is if he can stay healthy... if he does hes gonna be a ****in monster

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 12:56 PM
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.
</p>


you know the term innocent till proven guilty? how about mediocre till proven awesome.</p>


im a Giants fan, so I hope I eat crow on this one, trust me....but i dont give him **** till I see it.</p>




shall i point the inconsistencies of that comment and how u handled Hughes?

Alrighty then
</p>


what? why? ive been a Hughes supporter all year! Even when he had rough outtings! I said he had it in him...what exactly was I inconsistent about??
If this is even about Joba again, then just stop....cuz THAT was consistent in my argument that Hughes had a better 09 than Joba...absolutely was the case...and guess who had a good year starting(Hughes)? guess who struggled with even less innings(Joba)?!
Soooo basically I've never been wrong about that...</p>

na u crowned him before this season with dezz and pretty much bsaed it off one game where he almost had a perfect game...

just sayin, there wasn't enough to crown Hughes but u guys were... so how could u com eback and say for Bradshaw there hasn't been much. Guy averages 5.2 a carry over his career on 250+ carries.

Only thing not proven is if he can stay healthy... if he does hes gonna be a ****in monster
no i based it off the IT factor. the kid has IT. just like joba did. regardless, you have some crow to eat senior myer.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 12:58 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:01 PM
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.
</P>


you know the term innocent till proven guilty? how about mediocre till proven awesome.</P>


im a Giants fan, so I hope I eat crow on this one, trust me....but i dont give him **** till I see it.</P>




shall i point the inconsistencies of that comment and how u handled Hughes?

Alrighty then
</P>


what? why? ive been a Hughes supporter all year! Even when he had rough outtings! I said he had it in him...what exactly was I inconsistent about??
If this is even about Joba again, then just stop....cuz THAT was consistent in my argument that Hughes had a better 09 than Joba...absolutely was the case...and guess who had a good year starting(Hughes)? guess who struggled with even less innings(Joba)?!
Soooo basically I've never been wrong about that...</P>

na u crowned him before this season with dezz and pretty much bsaed it off one game where he almost had a perfect game...

just sayin, there wasn't enough to crown Hughes but u guys were... so how could u com eback and say for Bradshaw there hasn't been much. Guy averages 5.2 a carry over his career on 250+ carries.

Only thing not proven is if he can stay healthy... if he does hes gonna be a ****in monster


Like I said, I hope I eat crow on Bradshaw as a Gmen fan....but im not drinkin the ****in koolaide till then. This whole entire website is knob-slobbingly-obsessed with him...it's crazy! And I dont see anything to support it...so thats why i say what i do.

And if that's your argument for the Hughes/Joba debate, that that's stupid. Because what i said ALL THE TIME before this season was "Hughes had a better 09 than Joba. Hughes will continue to have a better 2010 than Joba, and should be the fifth starter". And yes, i brought up that one game, because the guy HAS THE STUFF to be good...Joba took 2.5 years just to get any veolocity back. sad.

Just say it bro, Hughes is better. youve never admitted it. I dont even care really, i just know you dont like admitting stuff you were wrong about.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:03 PM
i dont know why people sleep on bradshaw.
</p>


you know the term innocent till proven guilty? how about mediocre till proven awesome.</p>


im a Giants fan, so I hope I eat crow on this one, trust me....but i dont give him **** till I see it.</p>




shall i point the inconsistencies of that comment and how u handled Hughes?

Alrighty then
</p>


what? why? ive been a Hughes supporter all year! Even when he had rough outtings! I said he had it in him...what exactly was I inconsistent about??
If this is even about Joba again, then just stop....cuz THAT was consistent in my argument that Hughes had a better 09 than Joba...absolutely was the case...and guess who had a good year starting(Hughes)? guess who struggled with even less innings(Joba)?!
Soooo basically I've never been wrong about that...</p>

na u crowned him before this season with dezz and pretty much bsaed it off one game where he almost had a perfect game...

just sayin, there wasn't enough to crown Hughes but u guys were... so how could u com eback and say for Bradshaw there hasn't been much. Guy averages 5.2 a carry over his career on 250+ carries.

Only thing not proven is if he can stay healthy... if he does hes gonna be a ****in monster


Like I said, I hope I eat crow on Bradshaw as a Gmen fan....but im not drinkin the ****in koolaide till then. This whole entire website is knob-slobbingly-obsessed with him...it's crazy! And I dont see anything to support it...so thats why i say what i do.

And if that's your argument for the Hughes/Joba debate, that that's stupid. Because what i said ALL THE TIME before this season was "Hughes had a better 09 than Joba. Hughes will continue to have a better 2010 than Joba, and should be the fifth starter". And yes, i brought up that one game, because the guy HAS THE STUFF to be good...Joba took 2.5 years just to get any veolocity back. sad.

Just say it bro, Hughes is better. youve never admitted it. I dont even care really, i just know you dont like admitting stuff you were wrong about.

even with hindsight 20/20 and u being right that argument still doesn't make sense. Joba did it as a relief guy too and thats how Hughes was doing it. Theres just so many flaws in ur reasoning.

I dont get how u haven't seen it from Bradshaw. Fast, strong, can catch... dude is a game breaker

Hughes is def better now... u guys really need to lay off the pot, u act like this is ground breaking post from me, i think i've said it 20 times since we've rehashed this convo

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 01:06 PM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL


I won't get on you for the off base comment because its your B-day and because it's my Lunch time and because I just won 100$
haha keep sleeping ab. is the bet still on if he breaks both his ankles and continues to play?lol


Unless he's missing 2 games the bets still on I don't care if he's supposedly "playing through the pain" or whatever, after he misses two games, you get to make the decision, (Stay or Bail) if you bail it'll be like we never bet, but if you stay at that point then the bets good no matter what.

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 01:07 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:08 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</P>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</P>




while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
</P>


youre right, he has cooled off. still gets quality starts though, i have no complaints. it took Joba til mid august to prove he shouldnt be demoted for being so osi-y (lol)
Not that i want to move this entire conversation back to baseball, but wtf are the yanks doing to the rotation?!?!? it has seen better days! lol</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 01:08 PM
Hey Daven, how was the Glenn Beck hate rally in DC this past weekend?????


LOL


I won't get on you for the off base comment because its your B-day and because it's my Lunch time and because I just won 100$
haha keep sleeping ab. is the bet still on if he breaks both his ankles and continues to play?lol


Unless he's missing 2 games the bets still on I don't care if he's supposedly "playing through the pain" or whatever, after he misses two games, you get to make the decision, (Stay or Bail) if you bail it'll be like we never bet, but if you stay at that point then the bets good no matter what.
ok sounds good.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:09 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


even in those wins, a handful were run support wins...

na his era is over 4, but its so low because of the ridiculous start he had. From June to currently he has a5.05 era/ Thats the whole season minus a month n half

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:10 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


uhg...

these are the days i hate dezz...

but Joba just started sucking for no reason right? It had nothing to do with what they did with him

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 01:12 PM
I dont get how u haven't seen it from Bradshaw. Fast, strong, can catch... dude is a game breaker


he's not gonna get more then 12 carries per game, and he's not going to ave more then 5 YPC and he's going to miss at least 2 games.

12x14x5= 840 yards.

and I think the 12 carries and the 5 YPC are the upper limits of his ability, I seriously doubt he will even do that.

Brown or Ware are going to get a lot of Bradshaws carries this year and Bjac is gonna get like 15-20 a game guaranteed.

On caveat, obviously the post season doesn't count towards his total...this is regular season, I would assume it's obvious but I wanna make sure it's said.

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 01:13 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


even in those wins, a handful were run support wins...

na his era is over 4, but its so low because of the ridiculous start he had. From June to currently he has a5.05 era/ Thats the whole season minus a month n half
matt lets be clear before we start going crazy. lol what are you trying to say?
"hes good but..." or "i dont think hes that good...." or i dont think hes that good cause i dont want to eat crow"

you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 01:15 PM
I dont get how u haven't seen it from Bradshaw. Fast, strong, can catch... dude is a game breaker


he's not gonna get more then 12 carries per game, and he's not going to ave more then 5 YPC and he's going to miss at least 2 games.

12x14x5= 840 yards.

and I think the 12 carries and the 5 YPC are the upper limits of his ability, I seriously doubt he will even do that.

Brown or Ware are going to get a lot of Bradshaws carries this year and Bjac is gonna get like 15-20 a game guaranteed.

On caveat, obviously the post season doesn't count towards his total...this is regular season, I would assume it's obvious but I wanna make sure it's said.
what about bj getting banged up? thats a given. it will increase ab touches

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:18 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


even in those wins, a handful were run support wins...

na his era is over 4, but its so low because of the ridiculous start he had. From June to currently he has a5.05 era/ Thats the whole season minus a month n half
matt lets be clear before we start going crazy. lol what are you trying to say?
"hes good but..." or "i dont think hes that good...." or i dont think hes that good cause i dont want to eat crow"

you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]



hes good and he still has a high ceiling, but i dont thin khes there..

obviously if he would of kept up the pace i would be saying something different.

The real truth of the matter is that for most of the year, hes not been pitching that good and im basing that off the ERA. You can look at wins n losses all u want.. He has been really good with innings though.

sum it all up:

Yes Hughes is better than Joba - u were right (last time im saying it though, because u mutts act like i never do and i've done it 20 times)

Dezz - ur reasoning for why Hughes slacked off would be the same exact reason why Joba went to the ****ter, but you never acknowledge it

Pizz - before this season u proclaimed Hughes was "proven" when he had a far less body of work as a starting pitcher for u to say that than Bradshaw has carrying the rock.

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:20 PM
you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]

</P>


lol dude, Gardner drives me crazy...i look at his batting average, and im like, ohh nice for his first full year!
But EVERY ****ING GAME i watch, the guy goes 0 for 4 with like 3 Ks!!! what gives!? lol
hows his avg so high still?! lol
I dont care, i still love the guy</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 01:21 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


uhg...

these are the days i hate dezz...

but Joba just started sucking for no reason right? It had nothing to do with what they did with him
matt im not saying that joe didnt ****ed joba. hughes numbers are just better except for strikeouts and hes got over 10 innings left to catch up to joba..............like i said they would

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:22 PM
I dont get how u haven't seen it from Bradshaw. Fast, strong, can catch... dude is a game breaker


he's not gonna get more then 12 carries per game, and he's not going to ave more then 5 YPC and he's going to miss at least 2 games.

12x14x5= 840 yards.

and I think the 12 carries and the 5 YPC are the upper limits of his ability, I seriously doubt he will even do that.

Brown or Ware are going to get a lot of Bradshaws carries this year and Bjac is gonna get like 15-20 a game guaranteed.

On caveat, obviously the post season doesn't count towards his total...this is regular season, I would assume it's obvious but I wanna make sure it's said.


i think your nuts to think hes only gona average 12 carries a game. But I do also think his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield is what makes him nasty too.

Sounds like me and u are going to have to get a bet going cuz by ur predictions u think Bradshaw is gunna have under 200 carrie but JAcobs is going to have around 275...

i dont want to say Bradshaw is gonna have more carries than JAcobs, cuz its possible he is as much better as I think he is, Jacobs may get more touches with a lower average per carry and Bradshaw with alot of big runs..

So we can figure out a bet, but Bradshaws numbers will DEF be better than Jacobs

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 01:23 PM
you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]

</p>


lol dude, Gardner drives me crazy...i look at his batting average, and im like, ohh nice for his first full year!
But EVERY ****ING GAME i watch, the guy goes 0 for 4 with like 3 Ks!!! what gives!? lol
hows his avg so high still?! lol
I dont care, i still love the guy</p>really? whenever i see him, he always works a full count (mike kay said last night over 20% of the time he works the count full), then just slaps it into left. or walks.

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:24 PM
I dont get how u haven't seen it from Bradshaw. Fast, strong, can catch... dude is a game breaker


he's not gonna get more then 12 carries per game, and he's not going to ave more then 5 YPC and he's going to miss at least 2 games.

12x14x5= 840 yards.

and I think the 12 carries and the 5 YPC are the upper limits of his ability, I seriously doubt he will even do that.

Brown or Ware are going to get a lot of Bradshaws carries this year and Bjac is gonna get like 15-20 a game guaranteed.

On caveat, obviously the post season doesn't count towards his total...this is regular season, I would assume it's obvious but I wanna make sure it's said.
what about bj getting banged up? thats a given. it will increase ab touches
</P>


OR increase Brown and Ware's carries since the team knows AB gets injured ever year. That actually makes more sense to me since im pretty sure youre right about jacobs getting banged up some. </P>

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 01:24 PM
anyone wanna do a mock with me later today or tonight?!?!

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:24 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


even in those wins, a handful were run support wins...

na his era is over 4, but its so low because of the ridiculous start he had. From June to currently he has a5.05 era/ Thats the whole season minus a month n half
matt lets be clear before we start going crazy. lol what are you trying to say?
"hes good but..." or "i dont think hes that good...." or i dont think hes that good cause i dont want to eat crow"

you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]



Gardener is the one that I really have to eat crow on. Hes the one that i said was situational.... I never said Hughes was ****. What I did say was that for anybody to say he was proven before this year is ******ed. It had more to do wtih giving Joba a real shot and not ****ing him over.

And honestly im sorry, Hughes has shown he can be a starter in the league, but everybody is still antsy in their pantsy over May. May means nothing. If he can start t oget hot again in sept i'll concur hes proven...


but u guys were just out of line saying he was proven before this. You can bring up 09 all you want, but he was relief in 09. If being dominant in the relief game means ur proven as a starter then Joba was proven before he went to the rotation. And i'd even say during that time that would of been ridiculoous

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:24 PM
you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]

</P>


lol dude, Gardner drives me crazy...i look at his batting average, and im like, ohh nice for his first full year!
But EVERY ****ING GAME i watch, the guy goes 0 for 4 with like 3 Ks!!! what gives!? lol
hows his avg so high still?! lol
I dont care, i still love the guy</P>


really? whenever i see him, he always works a full count (mike kay said last night over 20% of the time he works the count full), then just slaps it into left. or walks.
</P>


yea i heard him say that too.
im serious tho! maybe its just my bad luck, catching the wrong games! hahahaha</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 01:25 PM
Bradshaw will get 1100 yards rushing and 300 yards receiving with 8 TD's</P>


Forte will get 1250 yards rushing and 500 receiving with 11 TD's.</P>


Both will have huge years.</P>


All barring serious injury of course.</P>


</P>


Morehead has spoken.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:25 PM
you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]

</p>


lol dude, Gardner drives me crazy...i look at his batting average, and im like, ohh nice for his first full year!
But EVERY ****ING GAME i watch, the guy goes 0 for 4 with like 3 Ks!!! what gives!? lol
hows his avg so high still?! lol
I dont care, i still love the guy</p>

i haven't checked his OBP in a while, but thats the most impressive thing to me

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:26 PM
I dont get how u haven't seen it from Bradshaw. Fast, strong, can catch... dude is a game breaker


he's not gonna get more then 12 carries per game, and he's not going to ave more then 5 YPC and he's going to miss at least 2 games.

12x14x5= 840 yards.

and I think the 12 carries and the 5 YPC are the upper limits of his ability, I seriously doubt he will even do that.

Brown or Ware are going to get a lot of Bradshaws carries this year and Bjac is gonna get like 15-20 a game guaranteed.

On caveat, obviously the post season doesn't count towards his total...this is regular season, I would assume it's obvious but I wanna make sure it's said.
what about bj getting banged up? thats a given. it will increase ab touches
</p>


OR increase Brown and Ware's carries since the team knows AB gets injured ever year. That actually makes more sense to me since im pretty sure youre right about jacobs getting banged up some. </p>

only way Brown or WAre are getting carries is in blowouts and when AB or BJ go down or banged up...

other then that they will hold no significance to the run game

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 01:27 PM
anyone wanna "<FONT size=5>do a mock"</FONT> with me later today or tonight?!?!</P>


Please tell mw you mean what I hope you mean.</P>


If so the answer is oui oui mon ami.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:27 PM
Bradshaw will get 1100 yards rushing and 300 yards receiving with 8 TD's</p>


Forte will get 1250 yards rushing and 500 receiving with 11 TD's.</p>


Both will have huge years.</p>


All barring serious injury of course.</p>


</p>


Morehead has spoken.</p>

me likes the sound of that pappy

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:27 PM
anyone wanna "<font size="5">do a mock"</font> with me later today or tonight?!?!</p>


Please tell mw you mean what I hope you mean.</p>


If so the answer is oui oui mon ami.</p>

i do believe ur thinking of the term "ROLE PLAY" pappy

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 01:29 PM
anyone wanna do a mock with me later today or tonight?!?!

there are so many ways to make this dirty that I'm not even going to.

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 01:29 PM
By the way does this all mean that Bomar is our back up QB?</P>


Thats hard to believe. I assume they will be looking to the waiver wires.</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 01:31 PM
anyone wanna "<FONT size=5>do a mock"</FONT> with me later today or tonight?!?!</P>


Please tell mw you mean what I hope you mean.</P>


If so the answer is oui oui mon ami.</P>




i do believe ur thinking of the term "ROLE PLAY" pappy
</P>


Lets see........2 1/2 hours to drive to NJ. 30 seconds to do "the mock", and then drive back.</P>


I could be home for a late dinner.</P>

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 01:32 PM
Sounds like me and u are going to have to get a bet going cuz by ur predictions u think Bradshaw is gunna have under 200 carrie but JAcobs is going to have around 275..


I'm willing to make a bet that Bradshaw doesn't break the 200 carry mark...but I'm not gonna give you the "barring injury" clause, because if we are talking purely carries, the high chance of injury is half the reason I'm making the bet in the first place.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:34 PM
heres a lil PNC update:

Steely Dan playing this thursday... Moorehead may be coming to jersey a lil sooner than expected

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:35 PM
Gardener is the one that I really have to eat crow on. Hes the one that i said was situational.... I never said Hughes was ****. What I did say was that for anybody to say he was proven before this year is ******ed. It had more to do wtih giving Joba a real shot and not ****ing him over.

And honestly im sorry, Hughes has shown he can be a starter in the league, but everybody is still antsy in their pantsy over May. May means nothing. If he can start t oget hot again in sept i'll concur hes proven...


but u guys were just out of line saying he was proven before this. You can bring up 09 all you want, but he was relief in 09. If being dominant in the relief game means ur proven as a starter then Joba was proven before he went to the rotation. And i'd even say during that time that would of been ridiculoous
</P>


ok fine. im not gonna dig up the old osi just to say i never said that....I just thought that Hughes showed more hope last year than Joba, so why not take the chance with Hughes as the 5th, than worry about Joba who was basically garbage, and hasnt shown me otherwise lol.
If i used the word "proven" then i was wrong in the beginning for even suggesting such a thing. Poor choice of words if thats the case.

Thx for saying all that though, props ninja!</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:35 PM
By the way does this all mean that Bomar is our back up QB?</p>


Thats hard to believe. I assume they will be looking to the waiver wires.</p>

am i the only one that saw some flashes inthe kid?

Im not really minding it at all

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:36 PM
i just helepd a lady at the front desk with the last name Morehead...and you would never believe it, but she was extremely annoying. I know...crazy, right?

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:36 PM
Sounds like me and u are going to have to get a bet going cuz by ur predictions u think Bradshaw is gunna have under 200 carrie but JAcobs is going to have around 275..


I'm willing to make a bet that Bradshaw doesn't break the 200 carry mark...but I'm not gonna give you the "barring injury" clause, because if we are talking purely carries, the high chance of injury is half the reason I'm making the bet in the first place.


this is my bet, take it or leave it

my bet is that since u said bradshaw wont average 12 carries a game, i say thats horse****.

Any game he plays in fully, i guarantee his average is over 12 a game

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:37 PM
By the way does this all mean that Bomar is our back up QB?</P>


Thats hard to believe. I assume they will be looking to the waiver wires.</P>




am i the only one that saw some flashes inthe kid?

Im not really minding it at all
</P>


nope, im with you Matt. I think Bomar is an adequate backup.</P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 01:40 PM
only way Brown or WAre are getting carries is in blowouts and when AB or BJ go down or banged up...

other then that they will hold no significance to the run game
</P>


well tahts what i said though. if Jacobs is injured, I would assume the team give those two carries rather than increase Bradshaw's workload and increase the risk of injury.</P>

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 01:41 PM
anyone wanna "<FONT size=5>do a mock"</FONT> with me later today or tonight?!?!</P>


Please tell mw you mean what I hope you mean.</P>


If so the answer is oui oui mon ami.</P>




i do believe ur thinking of the term "ROLE PLAY" pappy
</P>


Lets see........2 1/2 hours to drive to NJ. 30 seconds to do "the mock", and then drive back.</P>


I could be home for a late dinner.</P>


</P>


i meant mock draft you sick ****s lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:41 PM
only way Brown or WAre are getting carries is in blowouts and when AB or BJ go down or banged up...

other then that they will hold no significance to the run game
</p>


well tahts what i said though. if Jacobs is injured, I would assume the team give those two carries rather than increase Bradshaw's workload and increase the risk of injury.</p>

yea i think our offense requires two RBs.. most NFL teams do.. hell even AP gets his touches taken

but I do agree wtih u in the sense that somebody else owuld get a shot, but I also think in the same sense BRadshaw would get more touches than he normally would if BJ was there

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 01:52 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


even in those wins, a handful were run support wins...

na his era is over 4, but its so low because of the ridiculous start he had. From June to currently he has a5.05 era/ Thats the whole season minus a month n half
matt lets be clear before we start going crazy. lol what are you trying to say?
"hes good but..." or "i dont think hes that good...." or i dont think hes that good cause i dont want to eat crow"

you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]



Gardener is the one that I really have to eat crow on. Hes the one that i said was situational.... I never said Hughes was ****. What I did say was that for anybody to say he was proven before this year is ******ed. It had more to do wtih giving Joba a real shot and not ****ing him over.

And honestly im sorry, Hughes has shown he can be a starter in the league, but everybody is still antsy in their pantsy over May. May means nothing. If he can start t oget hot again in sept i'll concur hes proven...


but u guys were just out of line saying he was proven before this. You can bring up 09 all you want, but he was relief in 09. If being dominant in the relief game means ur proven as a starter then Joba was proven before he went to the rotation. And i'd even say during that time that would of been ridiculoous
if joe left him alone, hed have 20 wins this season.........hes proven.

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 01:56 PM
Sounds like me and u are going to have to get a bet going cuz by ur predictions u think Bradshaw is gunna have under 200 carrie but JAcobs is going to have around 275..


I'm willing to make a bet that Bradshaw doesn't break the 200 carry mark...but I'm not gonna give you the "barring injury" clause, because if we are talking purely carries, the high chance of injury is half the reason I'm making the bet in the first place.


this is my bet, take it or leave it

my bet is that since u said bradshaw wont average 12 carries a game, i say thats horse****.

Any game he plays in fully, i guarantee his average is over 12 a game
the more i think about that, the more ridiculous it sounds.

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 01:58 PM
anyone wanna "<FONT size=5>do a mock"</FONT> with me later today or tonight?!?!</P>


Please tell mw you mean what I hope you mean.</P>


If so the answer is oui oui mon ami.</P>




i do believe ur thinking of the term "ROLE PLAY" pappy
</P>


Lets see........2 1/2 hours to drive to NJ. 30 seconds to do "the mock", and then drive back.</P>


I could be home for a late dinner.</P>


</P>


i meant mock draft you sick ****s lol</P>


</P>


Sure you did.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 01:59 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


even in those wins, a handful were run support wins...

na his era is over 4, but its so low because of the ridiculous start he had. From June to currently he has a5.05 era/ Thats the whole season minus a month n half
matt lets be clear before we start going crazy. lol what are you trying to say?
"hes good but..." or "i dont think hes that good...." or i dont think hes that good cause i dont want to eat crow"

you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]



Gardener is the one that I really have to eat crow on. Hes the one that i said was situational.... I never said Hughes was ****. What I did say was that for anybody to say he was proven before this year is ******ed. It had more to do wtih giving Joba a real shot and not ****ing him over.

And honestly im sorry, Hughes has shown he can be a starter in the league, but everybody is still antsy in their pantsy over May. May means nothing. If he can start t oget hot again in sept i'll concur hes proven...


but u guys were just out of line saying he was proven before this. You can bring up 09 all you want, but he was relief in 09. If being dominant in the relief game means ur proven as a starter then Joba was proven before he went to the rotation. And i'd even say during that time that would of been ridiculoous
if joe left him alone, hed have 20 wins this season.........hes proven.


hes had plenty of time to get on track

about when would u say Joe startd to **** with him?

This is what im saying here PIzz... read what this guy is saying. Maybe just cuz u were agreeing with him I assumed u meant this also

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 02:00 PM
Gardener is the one that I really have to eat crow on. Hes the one that i said was situational.... I never said Hughes was ****. What I did say was that for anybody to say he was proven before this year is ******ed. It had more to do wtih giving Joba a real shot and not ****ing him over.

And honestly im sorry, Hughes has shown he can be a starter in the league, but everybody is still antsy in their pantsy over May. May means nothing. If he can start t oget hot again in sept i'll concur hes proven...


but u guys were just out of line saying he was proven before this. You can bring up 09 all you want, but he was relief in 09. If being dominant in the relief game means ur proven as a starter then Joba was proven before he went to the rotation. And i'd even say during that time that would of been ridiculoous
</p>


ok fine. im not gonna dig up the old osi just to say i never said that....I just thought that Hughes showed more hope last year than Joba, so why not take the chance with Hughes as the 5th, than worry about Joba who was basically garbage, and hasnt shown me otherwise lol.
If i used the word "proven" then i was wrong in the beginning for even suggesting such a thing. Poor choice of words if thats the case.

Thx for saying all that though, props ninja!</p>just a second on extending those props his way.lol
what about "vazgina"? he more than turned it around after his horrible start.

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
I'm giving Dezzz a internet high five right now, cuz Hughes had such a succesful season.</p>


INCOMING DEZZ!!!</p>

while I am excited for Hughes and all, he had a sick hot start... but since his first start in June hes had over a 5 ERA...
and i blame that on the hughes rules. skip starts, innings limit. its like joba all over again. and i dont think the era is that high anymore. regardless of what his era is hes flirting with a 20 win season. if he gets 18, girardi ****ed him, and ****ed him goood.


even in those wins, a handful were run support wins...

na his era is over 4, but its so low because of the ridiculous start he had. From June to currently he has a5.05 era/ Thats the whole season minus a month n half
matt lets be clear before we start going crazy. lol what are you trying to say?
"hes good but..." or "i dont think hes that good...." or i dont think hes that good cause i dont want to eat crow"

you have some crow to eat on gardener as well.[;)]



Gardener is the one that I really have to eat crow on. Hes the one that i said was situational.... I never said Hughes was ****. What I did say was that for anybody to say he was proven before this year is ******ed. It had more to do wtih giving Joba a real shot and not ****ing him over.

And honestly im sorry, Hughes has shown he can be a starter in the league, but everybody is still antsy in their pantsy over May. May means nothing. If he can start t oget hot again in sept i'll concur hes proven...


but u guys were just out of line saying he was proven before this. You can bring up 09 all you want, but he was relief in 09. If being dominant in the relief game means ur proven as a starter then Joba was proven before he went to the rotation. And i'd even say during that time that would of been ridiculoous
if joe left him alone, hed have 20 wins this season.........hes proven.


hes had plenty of time to get on track

about when would u say Joe startd to **** with him?

This is what im saying here PIzz... read what this guy is saying. Maybe just cuz u were agreeing with him I assumed u meant this also
all star break. he had the week off and skipped a start. whyyyy? since then he takes him out about every other game in the 6th

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
this is my bet, take it or leave it

my bet is that since u said bradshaw wont average 12 carries a game, i say thats horseOSI.

Any game he plays in fully, i guarantee his average is over 12 a game


who decides if he played fully in the game or not...nah I can't take bets that are subjective, it's gotta be black or white, either he gets a certain amount of carries for the year or he doesn't.

with your bet you'll be saying every other week that they took him out because he had a stinger or a sore ankle, half the time that Osi is made up crap and they are just resting the guy, what if it's a blow out and they start using Ware, then Bradshaw didn't play "fully"

Nah Matt when it comes to Bets it's gotta be either A or B can't be A but if this happens I get B too, but if neither of those things happens then maybe C.

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 02:09 PM
the more i think about that, the more ridiculous it sounds.

you think it's ridiculous because you think Bradshaw is all the sudden gonna be the load carrier, (I could make a joke but.....family website) I simply don't see that happening, Jacobs has been #1 and Bradshaw #2 for 3 years now, 2 of the 3 Years BJ had 1k+ yards...and he never even played in 16 Games.

Think about it this way Dez, you got about 30-35 Carries a game to split up, you know BJ is going to get more then Bradshaw (well you don't know that but I do) so that's 15-20 carries gone off the top.

35-17= 18

Now you got Bradshaw and Brown and Ware...they are going to split, Bradshaw is gonna get the majority of the split, but there's not much left too split.

now if you wanna say that Ware and Brown won't get any play time....ok...maybe, but even if that's the case I think it's more likely that we end up having 30 instead of 35 carries per game, and I think on ave 23-25 of those will go to Jacobs if we PURELY use BJ and AB only (which we won't) still leaves AB with like 10-12 carries max a game.....he will have his good games were they ride him and he gets 17-18 carries, he'll also have his off games were he only gets 5 or 6 carries, and he's gonna miss a game or two, the bets tight, but I think it's in my favor.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 02:10 PM
this is my bet, take it or leave it

my bet is that since u said bradshaw wont average 12 carries a game, i say thats horseOSI.

Any game he plays in fully, i guarantee his average is over 12 a game


who decides if he played fully in the game or not...nah I can't take bets that are subjective, it's gotta be black or white, either he gets a certain amount of carries for the year or he doesn't.

with your bet you'll be saying every other week that they took him out because he had a stinger or a sore ankle, half the time that Osi is made up crap and they are just resting the guy, what if it's a blow out and they start using Ware, then Bradshaw didn't play "fully"

Nah Matt when it comes to Bets it's gotta be either A or B can't be A but if this happens I get B too, but if neither of those things happens then maybe C.


this is what i'm saying - if Healthy BRadshaw is def gonna average over 12 carries a game...

like games he doesn't play in, or if he get sinjurd and taken out, they don't count

if he goes into a game banged up I will consider that as a full game

but if he gets injured in the second quarter and goes out for the game, obviously theres a good chance he wont get 12 carries

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 02:11 PM
Gardener is the one that I really have to eat crow on. Hes the one that i said was situational.... I never said Hughes was ****. What I did say was that for anybody to say he was proven before this year is ******ed. It had more to do wtih giving Joba a real shot and not ****ing him over.

And honestly im sorry, Hughes has shown he can be a starter in the league, but everybody is still antsy in their pantsy over May. May means nothing. If he can start t oget hot again in sept i'll concur hes proven...


but u guys were just out of line saying he was proven before this. You can bring up 09 all you want, but he was relief in 09. If being dominant in the relief game means ur proven as a starter then Joba was proven before he went to the rotation. And i'd even say during that time that would of been ridiculoous
</P>


ok fine. im not gonna dig up the old osi just to say i never said that....I just thought that Hughes showed more hope last year than Joba, so why not take the chance with Hughes as the 5th, than worry about Joba who was basically garbage, and hasnt shown me otherwise lol.
If i used the word "proven" then i was wrong in the beginning for even suggesting such a thing. Poor choice of words if thats the case.

Thx for saying all that though, props ninja!</P>


just a second on extending those props his way.lol
what about "vazgina"? he more than turned it around after his horrible start.


Well I'll include it in the Gardner crow(not that im putting words in Matt's mouth).
Cuz it was Melky for Vazquez, and even though Vaz has not been as good as he has the past few seasons, Gardner is the upside in all of this. However im totally agaisnt keeping Vaz in the bullpen! he's a starter, always has been...that's where he contributes best obviously. let him get the innings to help the team and play real baseball. i hate"Joe Girardi's micromanaging"...worst part is, he doesnt see it as that...ugh</P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 02:13 PM
I hate when daven uses numbers...however, I'm pickin up what he's putting down although I don't like to admit it. lol

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 02:17 PM
for the record, I hate what Yahoo has done with it's new fantasy page setups. TERRIBLE!
And they took away the matchup voting!!!! that was the best!!!

what was wrong with the old format. simple and clean. now it's a cluster**** of nonsense

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 02:17 PM
this is what i'm saying - if Healthy BRadshaw is def gonna average over 12 carries a game...

like games he doesn't play in, or if he get sinjurd and taken out, they don't count

if he goes into a game banged up I will consider that as a full game

but if he gets injured in the second quarter and goes out for the game, obviously theres a good chance he wont get 12 carries


this was his game logs from last year, with BJ slacking hardcore.

12
9
14
12
11
10
12
9
14
12
7
14
9
11
7

163 Carries what I would consider 15 full games

10.8 carries a game.

you think he's gonna do better then that this year?

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 02:18 PM
for the record, I hate what Yahoo has done with it's new fantasy page setups. TERRIBLE!
And they took away the matchup voting!!!! that was the best!!!

what was wrong with the old format. simple and clean. now it's a cluster**** of nonsense

**** all of you Yahoo is terrible we should be on ESPN.

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 02:27 PM
heres a lil PNC update:

Steely Dan playing this thursday... Moorehead may be coming to jersey a lil sooner than expected

ME TO!!!

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 02:28 PM
the more i think about that, the more ridiculous it sounds.

you think it's ridiculous because you think Bradshaw is all the sudden gonna be the load carrier, (I could make a joke but.....family website) I simply don't see that happening, Jacobs has been #1 and Bradshaw #2 for 3 years now, 2 of the 3 Years BJ had 1k+ yards...and he never even played in 16 Games.

Think about it this way Dez, you got about 30-35 Carries a game to split up, you know BJ is going to get more then Bradshaw (well you don't know that but I do) so that's 15-20 carries gone off the top.

35-17= 18

Now you got Bradshaw and Brown and Ware...they are going to split, Bradshaw is gonna get the majority of the split, but there's not much left too split.

now if you wanna say that Ware and Brown won't get any play time....ok...maybe, but even if that's the case I think it's more likely that we end up having 30 instead of 35 carries per game, and I think on ave 23-25 of those will go to Jacobs if we PURELY use BJ and AB only (which we won't) still leaves AB with like 10-12 carries max a game.....he will have his good games were they ride him and he gets 17-18 carries, he'll also have his off games were he only gets 5 or 6 carries, and he's gonna miss a game or two, the bets tight, but I think it's in my favor.
ok but the year bj had over 1000 yards, so did ware. bradshaw is just as good, if not better than ware. say bj isnt getting it done in a game, i see tc giving the carries to bradshaw. i dont see the giants being "stubborn" and leaving him in like last year.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 02:29 PM
this is what i'm saying - if Healthy BRadshaw is def gonna average over 12 carries a game...

like games he doesn't play in, or if he get sinjurd and taken out, they don't count

if he goes into a game banged up I will consider that as a full game

but if he gets injured in the second quarter and goes out for the game, obviously theres a good chance he wont get 12 carries


this was his game logs from last year, with BJ slacking hardcore.

12
9
14
12
11
10
12
9
14
12
7
14
9
11
7

163 Carries what I would consider 15 full games

10.8 carries a game.

you think he's gonna do better then that this year?



he was runnin on two bad wheels last year and yes, hes the man this year.. not JAcobs

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 02:30 PM
the more i think about that, the more ridiculous it sounds.

you think it's ridiculous because you think Bradshaw is all the sudden gonna be the load carrier, (I could make a joke but.....family website) I simply don't see that happening, Jacobs has been #1 and Bradshaw #2 for 3 years now, 2 of the 3 Years BJ had 1k+ yards...and he never even played in 16 Games.

Think about it this way Dez, you got about 30-35 Carries a game to split up, you know BJ is going to get more then Bradshaw (well you don't know that but I do) so that's 15-20 carries gone off the top.

35-17= 18

Now you got Bradshaw and Brown and Ware...they are going to split, Bradshaw is gonna get the majority of the split, but there's not much left too split.

now if you wanna say that Ware and Brown won't get any play time....ok...maybe, but even if that's the case I think it's more likely that we end up having 30 instead of 35 carries per game, and I think on ave 23-25 of those will go to Jacobs if we PURELY use BJ and AB only (which we won't) still leaves AB with like 10-12 carries max a game.....he will have his good games were they ride him and he gets 17-18 carries, he'll also have his off games were he only gets 5 or 6 carries, and he's gonna miss a game or two, the bets tight, but I think it's in my favor.
ok but the year bj had over 1000 yards, so did ware. bradshaw is just as good, if not better than ware. say bj isnt getting it done in a game, i see tc giving the carries to bradshaw. i dont see the giants being "stubborn" and leaving him in like last year.
</P>


i think you mean Ward....

Speaking of........

Tampa Bay...yea, they just cut Derrick Ward...</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 02:31 PM
for the record, I hate what Yahoo has done with it's new fantasy page setups. TERRIBLE!
And they took away the matchup voting!!!! that was the best!!!

what was wrong with the old format. simple and clean. now it's a cluster**** of nonsense

**** all of you Yahoo is terrible we should be on ESPN.


this is still a flex league, until that gets fixed who cares about where we play it

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 02:33 PM
Gardener is the one that I really have to eat crow on. Hes the one that i said was situational.... I never said Hughes was ****. What I did say was that for anybody to say he was proven before this year is ******ed. It had more to do wtih giving Joba a real shot and not ****ing him over.

And honestly im sorry, Hughes has shown he can be a starter in the league, but everybody is still antsy in their pantsy over May. May means nothing. If he can start t oget hot again in sept i'll concur hes proven...


but u guys were just out of line saying he was proven before this. You can bring up 09 all you want, but he was relief in 09. If being dominant in the relief game means ur proven as a starter then Joba was proven before he went to the rotation. And i'd even say during that time that would of been ridiculoous
</p>


ok fine. im not gonna dig up the old osi just to say i never said that....I just thought that Hughes showed more hope last year than Joba, so why not take the chance with Hughes as the 5th, than worry about Joba who was basically garbage, and hasnt shown me otherwise lol.
If i used the word "proven" then i was wrong in the beginning for even suggesting such a thing. Poor choice of words if thats the case.

Thx for saying all that though, props ninja!</p>


just a second on extending those props his way.lol
what about "vazgina"? he more than turned it around after his horrible start.


Well I'll include it in the Gardner crow(not that im putting words in Matt's mouth).
Cuz it was Melky for Vazquez, and even though Vaz has not been as good as he has the past few seasons, Gardner is the upside in all of this. However im totally agaisnt keeping Vaz in the bullpen! he's a starter, always has been...that's where he contributes best obviously. let him get the innings to help the team and play real baseball. i hate"Joe Girardi's micromanaging"...worst part is, he doesnt see it as that...ugh</p>and he does this in a tight pennant race none the less...our starting rotation is a mess right now........

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 02:33 PM
for the record, I hate what Yahoo has done with it's new fantasy page setups. TERRIBLE!
And they took away the matchup voting!!!! that was the best!!!

what was wrong with the old format. simple and clean. now it's a cluster**** of nonsense

**** all of you Yahoo is terrible we should be on ESPN.


this is still a flex league, until that gets fixed who cares about where we play it
</P>


we voted on everything so i dont wanna hear your *****ing</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 02:34 PM
the more i think about that, the more ridiculous it sounds.

you think it's ridiculous because you think Bradshaw is all the sudden gonna be the load carrier, (I could make a joke but.....family website) I simply don't see that happening, Jacobs has been #1 and Bradshaw #2 for 3 years now, 2 of the 3 Years BJ had 1k+ yards...and he never even played in 16 Games.

Think about it this way Dez, you got about 30-35 Carries a game to split up, you know BJ is going to get more then Bradshaw (well you don't know that but I do) so that's 15-20 carries gone off the top.

35-17= 18

Now you got Bradshaw and Brown and Ware...they are going to split, Bradshaw is gonna get the majority of the split, but there's not much left too split.

now if you wanna say that Ware and Brown won't get any play time....ok...maybe, but even if that's the case I think it's more likely that we end up having 30 instead of 35 carries per game, and I think on ave 23-25 of those will go to Jacobs if we PURELY use BJ and AB only (which we won't) still leaves AB with like 10-12 carries max a game.....he will have his good games were they ride him and he gets 17-18 carries, he'll also have his off games were he only gets 5 or 6 carries, and he's gonna miss a game or two, the bets tight, but I think it's in my favor.
ok but the year bj had over 1000 yards, so did ware. bradshaw is just as good, if not better than ware. say bj isnt getting it done in a game, i see tc giving the carries to bradshaw. i dont see the giants being "stubborn" and leaving him in like last year.
</p>


i think you mean Ward....

Speaking of........

Tampa Bay...yea, they just cut Derrick Ward...</p>yea wards who i ment

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 02:36 PM
for the record, I hate what Yahoo has done with it's new fantasy page setups. TERRIBLE!
And they took away the matchup voting!!!! that was the best!!!

what was wrong with the old format. simple and clean. now it's a cluster**** of nonsense

**** all of you Yahoo is terrible we should be on ESPN.


this is still a flex league, until that gets fixed who cares about where we play it
</P>


ive actually played ESPN longer than yahoo.</P>


i prefer it over yahoo, no doubt. do i care? not really, i just feel it's old and boring. and the new format is awful. however yahoo isnt blocked at work, and espn fantasy is, so our work leagues are on yahoo every season lol</P>

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 02:36 PM
kase- your $ is in.

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 02:42 PM
Then 11/12 are paid...

Is Shock still the champ after we do the draft or is it when they pick the first person of the waiver wire?

I wonder if he is bowing out.

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 02:43 PM
Then 11/12 are paid...

Is Shock still the champ after we do the draft or is it when they pick the first person of the waiver wire?

I wonder if he is bowing out.


</P>


Shock is the champ until someone else wins the championship.</P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 02:43 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;msg&quot;}">According to Ralph
Vacchiano: Only opener vs. Carolina and Dallas game are completely sold
out (not including still-unsold club PSLs)</h6>

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 02:46 PM
Then 11/12 are paid...

Is Shock still the champ after we do the draft or is it when they pick the first person of the waiver wire?

I wonder if he is bowing out.


</P>


still missing money from shock and dezz but APPARENTLY dezz is in the mail...</P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 02:47 PM
Is Shock still the champ after we do the draft or is it when they pick the first person of the waiver wire?

</p>


Shock is the champ until someone else wins the championship.</p>
<font color="#ff0000">Doubtful</font>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 02:51 PM
but APPARENTLY dezz is in the mail...
Plus he is so small I bet he fit in that USPS any size box for only 7 bucks or whatever. COOL

http://www.project-me.com/images/postman.gif

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 02:53 PM
Is Shock still the champ after we do the draft or is it when they pick the first person of the waiver wire?

</p>


Shock is the champ until someone else wins the championship.</p>
<font color="#ff0000">Doubtful</font>



there is no champion of this year.. howcould their be, it hasn't happened

ny06
08-31-2010, 02:54 PM
I am glad I did not sign up for the FF</P>


It seems like alot of trouble to get started.</P>


But I will be glad to sit back and watch all the fireworks </P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 02:56 PM
Is Shock still the champ after we do the draft or is it when they pick the first person of the waiver wire?

</p>


Shock is the champ until someone else wins the championship.</p>
<font color="#ff0000">Doubtful</font>



there is no champion of this year.. howcould their be, it hasn't happened

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GaR320rTuic/SoAZ3yxbx4I/AAAAAAAADrY/uCJg5FuyN0c/s400/stubborn.jpg

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 02:57 PM
I am glad I did not sign up for the FF</P>


It seems like alot of trouble to get started.</P>


But I will be glad to sit back and watch all the fireworks </P>


</P>


You have no idea what you're missing. Big fun.</P>


You blew it baby.</P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 02:57 PM
I am glad I did not sign up for the FF</p>
You really should have. Morehead is right

It's not a lot of trouble if you follow the rules. lol

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 02:58 PM
but APPARENTLY dezz is in the mail...
Plus he is so small I bet he fit in that USPS any size box for only 7 bucks or whatever. COOL

http://www.project-me.com/images/postman.gif
whats your beef lando? you have it out for me lately.

ny06
08-31-2010, 02:58 PM
Oh well. Always next year

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 02:59 PM
yooo pizz pm, you sexbox.

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 03:00 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 03:00 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 03:03 PM
whats your beef lando? you have it out for me lately.

I rarely post, what are you talking about? lol

You know I love ya man. Everyone clowns on you for being skinny. You might be narrow enough to get in there.

I guess in hindsight it would have been a better joke for Daven.

It was funny cause Amanda said Dezz is in the mail instead of Dezz'z.

Now it's lost all it's zing, I even found a great picture. [:(]

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 03:05 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.

But who is the champ of GMB Fantasy Football?

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 03:05 PM
I am glad I did not sign up for the FF</P>


It seems like alot of trouble to get started.</P>


But I will be glad to sit back and watch all the fireworks </P>


</P>


You have no idea what you're missing. Big fun.</P>


You blew it baby.</P>


</P>


yeahh im the only one withthe headache but thats almost over... two more days thank the good lord! then its nothing but fun til december</P>

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 03:07 PM
whats your beef lando? you have it out for me lately.

I rarely post, what are you talking about? lol

You know I love ya man. Everyone clowns on you for being skinny. You might be narrow enough to get in there.

I guess in hindsight it would have been a better joke for Daven.

It was funny cause Amanda said Dezz is in the mail instead of Dezz'z.

Now it's lost all it's zing, I even found a great picture. [:(]
</P>


i got a chuckle.</P>


</P>


but left it up on my screen and a tenant came into my office and looks and my comp and goes.. WTF. lol</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 03:09 PM
whats your beef lando? you have it out for me lately.

I rarely post, what are you talking about? lol

You know I love ya man. Everyone clowns on you for being skinny. You might be narrow enough to get in there.

I guess in hindsight it would have been a better joke for Daven.

It was funny cause Amanda said Dezz is in the mail instead of Dezz'z.

Now it's lost all it's zing, I even found a great picture. [:(]
</P>


Don't apologize......ride his *** until he cries.</P>


I think he's close.</P>

DavenIII
08-31-2010, 03:09 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.

But who is the champ of GMB Fantasy Football?


No one, but if it makes you feel better you can call Shocks the "defending" Champ.

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 03:11 PM
I am glad I did not sign up for the FF</P>


It seems like alot of trouble to get started.</P>


But I will be glad to sit back and watch all the fireworks </P>


</P>


You have no idea what you're missing. Big fun.</P>


You blew it baby.</P>


</P>


yeahh im the only one withthe headache but thats almost over... two more days thank the good lord! then its nothing but fun til december</P>


</P>


Well maybe after week 1 for you kid.</P>


You're playing the big dog right out of the shute.</P>

ny06
08-31-2010, 03:11 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg
</P>


Thats great</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 03:13 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg
</P>


Thats great</P>


</P>


Don't make Matt tell you where he finished in the standings.</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 03:13 PM
http://mail.aol.com/32447-211/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=27948740&amp;folder=OldMail&amp;partId =14

ny06
08-31-2010, 03:14 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg
</P>


Thats great</P>


</P>


Don't make Matt tell you where he finished in the standings.</P>


</P>


either first or last?</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 03:17 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg
</P>


Thats great</P>


</P>


Don't make Matt tell you where he finished in the standings.</P>


</P>


either first or last?</P>


</P>


Well it wasn't last but it was close.</P>

Morehead State
08-31-2010, 03:18 PM
I'm all for re signing Ward and getting rid of that candy ***, china doll Danny Ware!!

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 03:21 PM
Dezzz...new PM brotherman

ny06
08-31-2010, 03:22 PM
I'm all for re signing Ward and getting rid of that candy ***, china doll Danny Ware!!</P>


Are you sure about that?</P>


He reported to camp 20+lbs over weight</P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 03:26 PM
I'm all for re signing Ward and getting rid of that candy ***, china doll Danny Ware!!</p>


Are you sure about that?</p>


He reported to camp 20+lbs over weight</p>
Clearly it was planned

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 03:29 PM
I'm all for re signing Ward and getting rid of that candy ***, china doll Danny Ware!!</P>


Are you sure about that?</P>


He reported to camp 20+lbs over weight</P>



Clearly it was planned
</P>


what does that mean? i dont get it.
I dont know about resigning him, but he'll always be a Giant in my eyes!</P>

ny06
08-31-2010, 03:34 PM
I'm all for re signing Ward and getting rid of that candy ***, china doll Danny Ware!!</P>


Are you sure about that?</P>


He reported to camp 20+lbs over weight</P>



Clearly it was planned
</P>


So you are saying he intentionally went into camp out of shape so he can get cut?</P>

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 03:44 PM
I'm all for re signing Ward and getting rid of that candy ***, china doll Danny Ware!!</p>


Are you sure about that?</p>


He reported to camp 20+lbs over weight</p>



Clearly it was planned
</p>


So you are saying he intentionally went into camp out of shape so he can get cut?</p>
In a round about way it doesn't sound too crazy. Ward would love to come back I bet. It can't take but a few weeks to lose wieght for those guys. lol

ny06
08-31-2010, 03:48 PM
I'm all for re signing Ward and getting rid of that candy ***, china doll Danny Ware!!</P>


Are you sure about that?</P>


He reported to camp 20+lbs over weight</P>



Clearly it was planned
</P>


So you are saying he intentionally went into camp out of shape so he can get cut?</P>



In a round about way it doesn't sound too crazy. Ward would love to come back I bet. It can't take but a few weeks to lose wieght for those guys. lol
</P>


It def is not to far fetched. Who knows what reason was behind it. But he in on the market and I am assuming some team will pick him up. </P>

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 03:49 PM
I just told one of my part time coworkers that i rather work with a wall than her...yes a wall...an inanimate object...rather than work with her. I even explained it to her exactly like that...lol

byron
08-31-2010, 03:56 PM
I just told one of my part time coworkers that i rather work with a wall than her...yes a wall...an inanimate object...rather than work with her. I even explained it to her exactly like that...lol holy osi...she probably don't like you anymore....hahaha</P>


91 in the shade....wtf</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 03:59 PM
I just told one of my part time coworkers that i rather work with a wall than her...yes a wall...an inanimate object...rather than work with her. I even explained it to her exactly like that...lolim may have to steal that one.

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 04:04 PM
anyone got any new music to listen too. preferably something metalish, thrashishhhh or hiphopishhhhh "who turned off the toons maahn?"

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 04:06 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.


I concur Dr. Daven

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 04:07 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg


LMAO

still great

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 04:08 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.

But who is the champ of GMB Fantasy Football?


2010? Nobody

2009 - NOT YOU!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 04:09 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg
</p>


Thats great</p>


</p>


Don't make Matt tell you where he finished in the standings.</p>

everybody has an off year.. .

**** even the yankees missed the playoffs...

but then they came back and won it all -- i took notes