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dezzzR
08-31-2010, 05:09 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.


I concur Dr. Daven
but last years champion is still crowned "champion".

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 05:10 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.

But who is the champ of GMB Fantasy Football?


2010? Nobody

2009 - NOT YOU!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
lol homo

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 05:11 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.


I concur Dr. Daven
but last years champion is still crowned "champion".


DEFENDING champion... they didn't win **** in 2010, so why would they be the champion of the year they didnt win...

hell why stop there.. why not make them the all time champions

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 05:11 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.

But who is the champ of GMB Fantasy Football?


2010? Nobody

2009 - NOT YOU!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
lol homo


lol i actually did laugh when i typed that cuz i know it got lando angry

byron
08-31-2010, 05:16 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg


LMAO

still great
haha You would of laughed watching me do that I was so focused on painting I stepped into one those gaps in the the 2x4 cleats and nearly fell off...first thing out of my mouth was.. wake the ****up Byron !!! Its going to be a great time playing again this year...

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 05:17 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.


I concur Dr. Daven
but last years champion is still crowned "champion".


DEFENDING champion... they didn't win **** in 2010, so why would they be the champion of the year they didnt win...

hell why stop there.. why not make them the all time champions
you dont need to say defending. its already implied. and a defending champion is still a champion!!! obviously he isnt this years champ. but hes a champion, the yankees are champions, the lakers are champions.

ibleedblue85
08-31-2010, 05:25 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg


LMAO

still great
haha You would of laughed watching me do that I was so focused on painting I stepped into one those gaps in the the 2x4 cleats and nearly fell off...first thing out of my mouth was.. wake the ****up Byron !!! Its going to be a great time playing again this year...</P>


LMAO!!!</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 05:32 PM
i like big butts and i can not lie.

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 05:45 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.


I concur Dr. Daven
but last years champion is still crowned "champion".


DEFENDING champion... they didn't win **** in 2010, so why would they be the champion of the year they didnt win...

hell why stop there.. why not make them the all time champions
you dont need to say defending. its already implied. and a defending champion is still a champion!!! obviously he isnt this years champ. but hes a champion, the yankees are champions, the lakers are champions.


yes they are... just not THIS years champions

MattMeyerBud
08-31-2010, 05:48 PM
Just one of the highlights from last year.

MMB one of the vets of FF was playing Byron - the rookie.

He happened to be building his daughters house at the same time last fall.

After the rookie took it down he posted this photo...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs166.snc4/37616_137160439640006_100000381516889_238124_40748 40_n.jpg


LMAO

still great
haha You would of laughed watching me do that I was so focused on painting I stepped into one those gaps in the the 2x4 cleats and nearly fell off...first thing out of my mouth was.. wake the ****up Byron !!! Its going to be a great time playing again this year...


sooo what ur saying is, everybody wants a piece of MMB so bad in fantasy that they are willing to risk their lives...

lol

glad ur safe, stay off the roofs until at least the lions game

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 05:49 PM
as of right now, who do you think our starting mlber is?

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 05:56 PM
dezz, you gotta rehost your sig.....you look like bb62 right now =P BANDWIDTH EXCEEDED! hahaha

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 06:01 PM
dezz, you gotta rehost your sig.....you look like bb62 right now =P BANDWIDTH EXCEEDED! hahaha
its weird. i go to photobucket.com and i refresh the giant page and it works. then the next day its that again

byron
08-31-2010, 06:06 PM
dezz, you gotta rehost your sig.....you look like bb62 right now =P BANDWIDTH EXCEEDED! hahaha
its weird. i go to photobucket.com and i refresh the giant page and it works. then the next day its that again
I telling ya thats the 62 virus ...lol</P>


http://www.windsorfair.com/</P>


no supper for me...my wife is up there right now feeding the horse's</P>

dezzzR
08-31-2010, 06:08 PM
dezz, you gotta rehost your sig.....you look like bb62 right now =P BANDWIDTH EXCEEDED! hahaha
its weird. i go to photobucket.com and i refresh the giant page and it works. then the next day its that again
I telling ya thats the 62 virus ...lol</p>


http://www.windsorfair.com/</p>


no supper for me...my wife is up there right now feeding the horse's</p>what 62 virus??

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 06:11 PM
lol...so i havent worn just a regular WHITE button down in forever...cuz i have so many friggin color combinations....
But im going to a wedding on friday and im lookin thru my closet..and the only 2 white button downs i have dont fit my neck lol. weird part is, ive lost weight in the past year, so i cant explain that lol.
So....I guess its off to go buy one =\ ugh i hate shopping

JPizzack
08-31-2010, 06:16 PM
dezz, you gotta rehost your sig.....you look like bb62 right now =P BANDWIDTH EXCEEDED! hahaha
its weird. i go to photobucket.com and i refresh the giant page and it works. then the next day its that again
I telling ya thats the 62 virus ...lol</p>


http://www.windsorfair.com/</p>


no supper for me...my wife is up there right now feeding the horse's</p>what 62 virus??


bleedinblue since 62.....he used to post random **** in our thread EVERY day...and nobody could ever see it because it had the photobucket error pic bandwidth exceeded etc. lol......and he used to just deny it, or try to make everyone else sound crazy. i really disliked the guy personally, but w/e

byron
08-31-2010, 06:21 PM
dezz, you gotta rehost your sig.....you look like bb62 right now =P BANDWIDTH EXCEEDED! hahaha
its weird. i go to photobucket.com and i refresh the giant page and it works. then the next day its that again
I telling ya thats the 62 virus ...lol</P>


http://www.windsorfair.com/</P>


no supper for me...my wife is up there right now feeding the horse's</P>


what 62 virus?? </P>



dumb joke...every time I see the bandwidth exceeded I think of bb62 so I started calling it the 62 virus</P>


</P>


</P>

byron
08-31-2010, 06:22 PM
lol...so i havent worn just a regular WHITE button down in forever...cuz i have so many friggin color combinations....
But im going to a wedding on friday and im lookin thru my closet..and the only 2 white button downs i have dont fit my neck lol. weird part is, ive lost weight in the past year, so i cant explain that lol.
So....I guess its off to go buy one =\ ugh i hate shopping
or wendys

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 08:14 PM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.

But who is the champ of GMB Fantasy Football?


2010? Nobody

2009 - NOT YOU!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

I didn't ask for years. I just asked who the champ is...

bigblue4417
08-31-2010, 08:15 PM
lol i actually did laugh when i typed that cuz i know it got lando angry

I am not mad. I got some sick cards and 70 bucks. I got robbed, I didn't lose...

Stupid Jim Caldwell

byron
08-31-2010, 10:37 PM
<FONT size=2 face=Arial>1. Chris Johnson (Ten - RB)
2. Roddy White (Atl - WR)
3. Miles Austin (Dal - WR)
4. Antonio Gates (SD - TE)
5. Knowshon Moreno (Den - RB)
6. Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
7. Joe Flacco (Bal - QB)
8. Mike Wallace (Pit - WR)
9. Montario Hardesty (Cle - RB)
10. Tim Hightower (Ari - RB)
11. Lee Evans (Buf - WR)
12. Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR)
13. Kyle Orton (Den - QB)
14. Jay Feely (Ari - K)
15. Carolina (Car - DEF) </FONT></P>


<FONT size=2 face=Arial>I waited on the qb here...I took a shot at guys I don't know much about...hardesty.evans, white</FONT></P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 09:35 AM
"I took my fish head out to seea movie.......... didn't have to pay to get it in"</P>


</P>


</P>


God I love the classics.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 09:54 AM
<font face="Arial" size="2">1. Chris Johnson (Ten - RB)
2. Roddy White (Atl - WR)
3. Miles Austin (Dal - WR)
4. Antonio Gates (SD - TE)
5. Knowshon Moreno (Den - RB)
6. Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
7. Joe Flacco (Bal - QB)
8. Mike Wallace (Pit - WR)
9. Montario Hardesty (Cle - RB)
10. Tim Hightower (Ari - RB)
11. Lee Evans (Buf - WR)
12. Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR)
13. Kyle Orton (Den - QB)
14. Jay Feely (Ari - K)
15. Carolina (Car - DEF) </font></p>


<font face="Arial" size="2">I waited on the qb here...I took a shot at guys I don't know much about...hardesty.evans, white</font></p>

wow, great value on Austin

good job big b

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 09:54 AM
lol i actually did laugh when i typed that cuz i know it got lando angry

I am not mad. I got some sick cards and 70 bucks. I got robbed, I didn't lose...

Stupid Jim Caldwell


do u think the PAtriots said the same thing in 07?

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 09:57 AM
The GMB's Fantasy Football 2010 Champions are as of right now, no one, we have to play the season first obviously.

But who is the champ of GMB Fantasy Football?


2010? Nobody

2009 - NOT YOU!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

I didn't ask for years. I just asked who the champ is...


they fantasy season didn't even start, how could there be a champion?

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 09:58 AM
"I took my fish head out to seea movie.......... didn't have to pay to get it in"</p>


</p>


</p>


God I love the classics.</p>

that goes on my list of most obnoxious songs of all time

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 10:00 AM
I really liked what Bomar did. Can't say i'd be totally opposed ot bringing in Lienhart... look at what we did for Carr

But still, why are we not giving this kid a shot. Hes looked good. Probably better than Lienhart.

Maybe we're gonna trade Bomar FOR Lienhart and Bomar can get a shot in Zona

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 10:16 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 10:21 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>

i agree i like him as our backup

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 10:27 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 10:36 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>

eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 10:37 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>


</P>


Some may make the argument that having a guy who's never played a down in a regular season game as a back up QB is much more of a "roll of the dice" than having a guy with NFL experience.</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 10:39 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>


</P>


Some may make the argument that having a guy who's never played a down in a regular season game as a back up QB is much more of a "roll of the dice" than having a guy with NFL experience.</P>


</P>


true....but the safe bet is Eli taking every single snap this year, short of a blowout...
we dont really utilize backups often. I just prefer a guy already in the system I guess? I see both your points obviously.</P>

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 10:40 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>

eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
yuuup

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 10:51 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>


</p>


Some may make the argument that having a guy who's never played a down in a regular season game as a back up QB is much more of a "roll of the dice" than having a guy with NFL experience.</p>

And i agree with that to an extent.. but then again Tom Brady would never of been here with that type of thinking

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 10:57 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>

eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
yuuup


they tried throwing him to the wolves, then they put him in a ridiculous "QB ROTATION", then Warner returned to Warner form, then there was no votes of confidence.

I mean the kid got killed for drinking and partying with young girls...

hes having a bad ride... i bet he can be somewhat successful somewhere else.

Giant would be a good fit for him to help him get his **** together like we did for Carr... but our QB coach had a history with Carr so maybe that was just a personal thing.

I dunno. I think he needs out of there and to go somewhere that he can get a lil relief

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 11:00 AM
I've come to a conclusion about my sleeping habits as of late....

I need to drink more during the week like I used to...

The lack of alcohol is making me tired in the mornings as opposed to tired during the late day....
I know what youre thinking....and youre right!! IT IS the best idea ever!!!

byron
09-01-2010, 11:00 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>


</P>


Some may make the argument that having a guy who's never played a down in a regular season game as a back up QB is much more of a "roll of the dice" than having a guy with NFL experience.</P> I guess I get that thinking if you don't have any backup at all but, they brought this kid in to give him a chance and I think he has goodpotential you don't get reg season experience without somebody giving you a chance...now if they don't think he is nfl material ...then ship him...but I think he's done ok ...Eli goes down for an extended period we are in trouble simple as that ..give the kid a shot I say..but its very hot up here and I may not be thinking clearly...I get what you are saying MH

ny06
09-01-2010, 11:02 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</P>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</P>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</P>

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 11:03 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>

eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
yuuup


they tried throwing him to the wolves, then they put him in a ridiculous "QB ROTATION", then Warner returned to Warner form, then there was no votes of confidence.

I mean the kid got killed for drinking and partying with young girls...

hes having a bad ride... i bet he can be somewhat successful somewhere else.

Giant would be a good fit for him to help him get his **** together like we did for Carr... but our QB coach had a history with Carr so maybe that was just a personal thing.

I dunno. I think he needs out of there and to go somewhere that he can get a lil relief
yea before i passed out last night they had a thing on him on espn and how he wasnt happy cause as of right now hes not starting. coach said its his "job to put the team in the best position to win games." that doesnt sound good at all for him. i dont mind picking him up. what do you think zona will ask for? just a backup qb trade?

DavenIII
09-01-2010, 11:03 AM
I've come to a conclusion about my sleeping habits as of late....

I need to drink more during the week like I used to...

The lack of alcohol is making me tired in the mornings as opposed to tired during the late day....
I know what youre thinking....and youre right!! IT IS the best idea ever!!!

A certain amount of lubrication is required for a good nights sleep.

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 11:04 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</p>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</p>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</p>

I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 11:05 AM
I've come to a conclusion about my sleeping habits as of late....

I need to drink more during the week like I used to...

The lack of alcohol is making me tired in the mornings as opposed to tired during the late day....
I know what youre thinking....and youre right!! IT IS the best idea ever!!!

A certain amount of lubrication is required for a good nights sleep.


i knew u were gay

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 11:06 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>

eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
yuuup


they tried throwing him to the wolves, then they put him in a ridiculous "QB ROTATION", then Warner returned to Warner form, then there was no votes of confidence.

I mean the kid got killed for drinking and partying with young girls...

hes having a bad ride... i bet he can be somewhat successful somewhere else.

Giant would be a good fit for him to help him get his **** together like we did for Carr... but our QB coach had a history with Carr so maybe that was just a personal thing.

I dunno. I think he needs out of there and to go somewhere that he can get a lil relief
yea before i passed out last night they had a thing on him on espn and how he wasnt happy cause as of right now hes not starting. coach said its his "job to put the team in the best position to win games." that doesnt sound good at all for him. i dont mind picking him up. what do you think zona will ask for? just a backup qb trade?


yea i think hes dead in the water in Zona. I mean the coahc isn't giving him the spot ove rDerek Anderson and even tho Lienhart isn't looking GREAT, hes doing better. And not only that when he got to play a lil in the playoffs last year he actually did decent.

I dunno this is what I mean, its just not the place for him.

And i have no clue what they are asking. Probably not much cuz I think they really want to get rid of him. Its an overall bad situation

ny06
09-01-2010, 11:08 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</P>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</P>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</P>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</P>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 11:13 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</p>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</p>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</p>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</p>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </p>

Of coarse he wants to start, but hes not gonna have any say in the trade. If he comes here it'll be Carr prt 2.

Do you remember what Carr looked like in Carolina before he came here? I actually think his days in Houston were always exaggerated. He had an awful line and was on the run for his life there but give Lienhart some time and a change of pace and I think he'll be fine. HE got his bell rung early in his NFL career.

Plus i'd take take him 11 out of 10 times over Jim Sorgi

ny06
09-01-2010, 11:13 AM
I would prefer Amanda as our back up QB then Leinart</P>

ny06
09-01-2010, 11:15 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</P>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</P>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</P>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</P>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </P>




Of coarse he wants to start, but hes not gonna have any say in the trade. If he comes here it'll be Carr prt 2.

Do you remember what Carr looked like in Carolina before he came here? I actually think his days in Houston were always exaggerated. He had an awful line and was on the run for his life there but give Lienhart some time and a change of pace and I think he'll be fine. HE got his bell rung early in his NFL career.

Plus i'd take take him 11 out of 10 times over Jim Sorgi
</P>


I agree about Carr, he got killed in Houston. Leinart might have no say on where he gets traded, but having a guy who clearly thinks he is starting material might not be smart move for the Giants. </P>


But we do need to address the back up QB position, we cant go into the season with an inexperienced back up. </P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 11:28 AM
I've come to a conclusion about my sleeping habits as of late....

I need to drink more during the week like I used to...

The lack of alcohol is making me tired in the mornings as opposed to tired during the late day....
I know what youre thinking....and youre right!! IT IS the best idea ever!!!

A certain amount of lubrication is required for a good nights sleep.


i knew u were gay
</P>


fail, matt...</P>


thank you daven for letting me know im not the only person who knows lubricated means buzzzzzzed lol</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 11:33 AM
David Carr is ****ing awesome! lol

Houston ****ed him so bad! They are like, "oh hey, here's a reciever! WTF YOU STILL SUCK CUZ YOU GET SACKED 9 TIMES A GAME! You need a pocket!?! GO **** YOURSELF! YOURE THROUGH HERE!!"

So bad man...you think Houston realized this after they gave Schaub a line, and a run game? They were like aww osi...we ****ed up with Carr....the guy really could have #1 potential afterall! </P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 11:37 AM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</p>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</p>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</p>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</p>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </p>




Of coarse he wants to start, but hes not gonna have any say in the trade. If he comes here it'll be Carr prt 2.

Do you remember what Carr looked like in Carolina before he came here? I actually think his days in Houston were always exaggerated. He had an awful line and was on the run for his life there but give Lienhart some time and a change of pace and I think he'll be fine. HE got his bell rung early in his NFL career.

Plus i'd take take him 11 out of 10 times over Jim Sorgi
</p>


I agree about Carr, he got killed in Houston. Leinart might have no say on where he gets traded, but having a guy who clearly thinks he is starting material might not be smart move for the Giants. </p>


But we do need to address the back up QB position, we cant go into the season with an inexperienced back up. </p>

i'd be fine with Bomar or Lienhart

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 11:38 AM
I've come to a conclusion about my sleeping habits as of late....

I need to drink more during the week like I used to...

The lack of alcohol is making me tired in the mornings as opposed to tired during the late day....
I know what youre thinking....and youre right!! IT IS the best idea ever!!!

A certain amount of lubrication is required for a good nights sleep.


i knew u were gay
</p>


fail, matt...</p>


thank you daven for letting me know im not the only person who knows lubricated means buzzzzzzed lol</p>

i think it was spot on... only thing that gets lubed is ur *******

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 11:41 AM
David Carr is ****ing awesome! lol

Houston ****ed him so bad! They are like, "oh hey, here's a reciever! WTF YOU STILL SUCK CUZ YOU GET SACKED 9 TIMES A GAME! You need a pocket!?! GO **** YOURSELF! YOURE THROUGH HERE!!"

So bad man...you think Houston realized this after they gave Schaub a line, and a run game? They were like aww osi...we ****ed up with Carr....the guy really could have #1 potential afterall! </p>

i thin kthey are over it though..

only time they miss Car rand think that is when Schaub goes into China Doll mode

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 11:50 AM
whenever granderson hits a hr, which isnt that much this season, he ****ing rooocks it. tex is on fyaaaaa, another joejam last night. and another win by philthy phil. we have 2 series with the rays coming up as well....

bigblue4417
09-01-2010, 11:51 AM
lol i actually did laugh when i typed that cuz i know it got lando angry

I am not mad. I got some sick cards and 70 bucks. I got robbed, I didn't lose...

Stupid Jim Caldwell


do u think the PAtriots said the same thing in 07?

Not sure what you are talkin about? lol

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 11:53 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</P>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</P>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</P>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</P>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </P>


</P>


Some might say that Eli panics a bit in the face of a pass rush as well. Year after year he has the worst, or one of the worst QB ratings when blitzed.</P>

ny06
09-01-2010, 11:55 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</P>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</P>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</P>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</P>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </P>


</P>


Some might say that Eli panics a bit in the face of a pass rush as well. Year after year he has the worst, or one of the worst QB ratings when blitzed.</P>


</P>


Maybe so, but Eli is our QB; and he isa much better player then Leinart will ever be</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 11:55 AM
Ultimately the argument comes down to a simple consideration.</P>


If Eli goes down, is our season over with Bomar? I say yes.</P>


If Eli goes down is our season over with Leinert? I say probably.</P>


"Probably" is better than "yes"...........I suppose.</P>

ny06
09-01-2010, 11:57 AM
Ultimately the argument comes down to a simple consideration.</P>


If Eli goes down, is our season over with Bomar? I say yes.</P>


If Eli goes down is our season over with Leinert? I say probably.</P>


"Probably" is better than "yes"...........I suppose.</P>


</P>


If Eli goes down for a long period of time our season is gone.</P>


I am intrested if the Vikings will cut Sage R</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 11:59 AM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</P>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</P>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</P>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</P>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </P>


</P>


Some might say that Eli panics a bit in the face of a pass rush as well. Year after year he has the worst, or one of the worst QB ratings when blitzed.</P>


</P>


Maybe so, but Eli is our QB; and he isa much better player then Leinart will ever be</P>


</P>


I was only commenting on the point you made. Thats all.</P>


For all his many strengths, standing tall in the pocket amid a fierce pass rush is not one of them.</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 11:59 AM
Ultimately the argument comes down to a simple consideration.</P>


If Eli goes down, is our season over with Bomar? I say yes.</P>


If Eli goes down is our season over with Leinert? I say probably.</P>


"Probably" is better than "yes"...........I suppose.</P>


</P>


well....i dont trust either of them. But personally I rather keep Bomar. I look at it from another player's point of view. If Eli goes down, you want to bring in some guy who already struggled on a team where ppl didnt trust him? Or the kid you play with in practice every day? Give me Bomar. The players will play for him, I guarantee</P>

ny06
09-01-2010, 12:04 PM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</P>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</P>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</P>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</P>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </P>


</P>


Some might say that Eli panics a bit in the face of a pass rush as well. Year after year he has the worst, or one of the worst QB ratings when blitzed.</P>


</P>


Maybe so, but Eli is our QB; and he isa much better player then Leinart will ever be</P>


</P>


I was only commenting on the point you made. Thats all.</P>


For all his many strengths, standing tall in the pocket amid a fierce pass rush is not one of them.</P>


</P>


I agree, I just think Leinart is a *****</P>

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 12:05 PM
Yaaaoooo</p>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </p>




i agree i like him as our backup
</p>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</p>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</p>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</p>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</p>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</p>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </p>


</p>


Some might say that Eli panics a bit in the face of a pass rush as well. Year after year he has the worst, or one of the worst QB ratings when blitzed.</p>


</p>


Maybe so, but Eli is our QB; and he isa much better player then Leinart will ever be</p>


</p>


I was only commenting on the point you made. Thats all.</p>


For all his many strengths, standing tall in the pocket amid a fierce pass rush is not one of them.</p>


</p>


I agree, I just think Leinart is a *****</p>yea i get the feeling he whines a bit

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:06 PM
"Dad, whats jaegermeister?"

"well you know how in fairy tails theres a potion that always puts the pretty girls to sleep so a prince can kiss them and wake them up? Well...its like that, but instead of waking up in a castle they're in a frat house and their reputation is ruined"

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 12:11 PM
ello boys!

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:15 PM
ello boys!</P>


ello</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:16 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 12:22 PM
lol i actually did laugh when i typed that cuz i know it got lando angry

I am not mad. I got some sick cards and 70 bucks. I got robbed, I didn't lose...

Stupid Jim Caldwell


do u think the PAtriots said the same thing in 07?

Not sure what you are talkin about? lol


do u think the patriots said "WE GOT ROBBED, ELI SHOULD OF NEVER ESACPED AND TYREE SHOULD OF NEVER CAUGHT THE BALL. WE WERE THE BEST TEAM. WE WERE ROBBED"

i bet they did

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 12:22 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u

byron
09-01-2010, 12:24 PM
Ultimately the argument comes down to a simple consideration.</P>


If Eli goes down, is our season over with Bomar? I say yes.</P>


If Eli goes down is our season over with Leinert? I say probably.</P>


"Probably" is better than "yes"...........I suppose.</P>


</P>


well....i dont trust either of them. But personally I rather keep Bomar. I look at it from another player's point of view. If Eli goes down, you want to bring in some guy who already struggled on a team where ppl didnt trust him? Or the kid you play with in practice every day? Give me Bomar. The players will play for him, I guarantee</P> I'm thinking about it that way two Bomar has been here 2 years knows all the players practice's with the wrs and what not.. there has to be some chemistry there with others players and the coaches...We bring in ML he has to get up to speed and everything else ....and then really what have you got...a more experienced backup QB ? Hey.. if our coaches don't think RB will ever be ML caliber or better Qb so be it ...but if they thinkother wise they need to give him a shot his 2 years here should be worth something and think about the message it sends to the kid if they don't ....ahh well ..that's just me I'd give him his shot

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 12:25 PM
Ultimately the argument comes down to a simple consideration.</p>


If Eli goes down, is our season over with Bomar? I say yes.</p>


If Eli goes down is our season over with Leinert? I say probably.</p>


"Probably" is better than "yes"...........I suppose.</p>

i liked what i saw out of Bomar

i'd say probably with him as well

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 12:27 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u
lmao i bet you would.

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 12:28 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?

byron
09-01-2010, 12:30 PM
lol i actually did laugh when i typed that cuz i know it got lando angry

I am not mad. I got some sick cards and 70 bucks. I got robbed, I didn't lose...

Stupid Jim Caldwell


do u think the PAtriots said the same thing in 07?

Not sure what you are talkin about? lol


do u think the patriots said "WE GOT ROBBED, ELI SHOULD OF NEVER ESACPED AND TYREE SHOULD OF NEVER CAUGHT THE BALL. WE WERE THE BEST TEAM. WE WERE ROBBED"

i bet they did
Pats fans are terrible up here ...I had a guy tell me recently that the Pats gave us the game I just said I don't know about that Tom was having a pretty hard time trying to complete a pass laying on his back....the guy say ok rub it in...I just laughed....

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 12:31 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u
lmao i bet you would.
</P>


i would too!</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 12:33 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 12:34 PM
lol i actually did laugh when i typed that cuz i know it got lando angry

I am not mad. I got some sick cards and 70 bucks. I got robbed, I didn't lose...

Stupid Jim Caldwell


do u think the PAtriots said the same thing in 07?

Not sure what you are talkin about? lol


do u think the patriots said "WE GOT ROBBED, ELI SHOULD OF NEVER ESACPED AND TYREE SHOULD OF NEVER CAUGHT THE BALL. WE WERE THE BEST TEAM. WE WERE ROBBED"

i bet they did
Pats fans are terrible up here ...I had a guy tell me recently that the Pats gave us the game I just said I don't know about that Tom was having a pretty hard time trying to complete a pass laying on his back....the guy say ok rub it in...I just laughed....

lol yea they gave us the game when they couldn't sack Eli or stop Tyree or blco kanybody on our DLine.. what a mutt

byron
09-01-2010, 12:34 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?
I was busy......lol.....I don't much care what any of them have to say anymore....sad but but true.....

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:35 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u
lmao i bet you would.
</P>


i would too!</P>


</P>


FINE, I'll save the sextin' for you....all you had to do was ask! =P</P>

byron
09-01-2010, 12:36 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

<FONT color=#0000ff>Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
</FONT> I'll go for that...

bigblue4417
09-01-2010, 12:38 PM
"Dad, whats jaegermeister?"

"well you know how in fairy tails theres a potion that always puts the pretty girls to sleep so a prince can kiss them and wake them up? Well...its like that, but instead of waking up in a castle they're in a frat house and their reputation is ruined"
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/mr_clipse/Jagermeister-2.png

bigblue4417
09-01-2010, 12:42 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u

<font color="#ff1493">Pizz</font>



<font color="#800080">Dez</font>

<font color="#ff1493">

Matt is such a ****...</font>

<font color="#800080">yea for sure...</font>

<font color="#ff1493">hey you wanna come over tonight and watch Buffy? </font>

<font color="#800080">Sure man, after the show we can hold each others ****s and watch Phil highlights. </font>

patsrule666
09-01-2010, 12:43 PM
Yaaaoooo</P>


are there talks about Bomar to AZ??

I say we keep Bomar. This kid got SCREWED. We should be talking about him like ppl talked about Bradford and Stafford coming out of college. And we would have if not for a $100 car wash payroll. lol
He's got the skills, just needs the fine tuning. </P>




i agree i like him as our backup
</P>


I think it's an easy decision to keep a young kid who can be molded by a successful offense, rather than roll the dice on a qb who has already struggled. this aint Carr we're talking about who had the skills, and just a bad o-line for multiple seasons on teams that didnt try to help him.</P>




eh i dont really agree with that either.

I think Lienhart has shown flashes and has been held back in Zona more than hes been helped
</P>


I disagree with that, I think Leinart is just not cut out to be a NFL qb.</P>


When you have a weak arm you better have great accuracy with your passes. From the games I have seen Leinart play he just lacks something. Maybe he lacks leadership,or it could be he is more into his off the field life then on the field performance. My opinion his teammates dont beleive in him either.</P>




I dont think hes had the support a young QB needs in the league and I think he was always stuck in a ****ty situation.

And dont forget when he was getting his snaps early in his career as a QB it was behind possibly the worst OLine in the game
</P>


Have you seen Leinart when pressure gets on him? Guy seems to get flustered easily. I say no thanks for bringing him in. He wants to be a starter, so he knows there is no chance in hell he will ever start for the Giants. </P>


</P>


Some might say that Eli panics a bit in the face of a pass rush as well. Year after year he has the worst, or one of the worst QB ratings when blitzed.</P>


</P>


Maybe so, but Eli is our QB; and he isa much better player then Leinart will ever be</P>


</P>


I was only commenting on the point you made. Thats all.</P>


For all his many strengths, standing tall in the pocket amid a fierce pass rush is not one of them.</P>


Eli is a rock compared to Tony Eason. You remember him dont you?</P>


Talk about folding in the face of pressure....</P>


</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:44 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u

<FONT color=#ff1493>Pizz</FONT>

<FONT color=#800080>Dez</FONT>

<FONT color=#ff1493>

Matt is such a ****...</FONT>

<FONT color=#800080>yea for sure...</FONT>

<FONT color=#ff1493>hey you wanna come over tonight and watch Buffy? </FONT>

<FONT color=#800080>Sure man, after the show we can hold each others ****s and watch Phil highlights. </FONT>
</P>


wow...spot on!!! </P>

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 12:44 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u
lmao i bet you would.
</P>


i would too!</P>


</P>


FINE, I'll save the sextin' for you....all you had to do was ask! =P</P>


</P>


you gonna sham-WOW me? [;)] </P>

patsrule666
09-01-2010, 12:45 PM
Speaking of backups- I am very interested in you guys opinions of our backup- Brian Hoyer. Im sure you will see plenty of him tomorrow night...

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 12:47 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u

<font color="#ff1493">Pizz</font>



<font color="#800080">Dez</font>

<font color="#ff1493">

Matt is such a ****...</font>

<font color="#800080">yea for sure...</font>

<font color="#ff1493">hey you wanna come over tonight and watch Buffy? </font>

<font color="#800080">Sure man, after the show we can hold each others ****s and watch Phil highlights. </font>


LMAO

I FOGOT ABOUT BUFFY!!!!

http://searchingforbillyedelin.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/jp-grandmas-boy5.jpg

Pizz: I think im just gonna go back to my crib and watch the 2nd season of Buffy on DVD's Bonus Features

Dezz: Oh, i didnt even know that was out yet.

Pizz: It isn't, I know people

bigblue4417
09-01-2010, 12:47 PM
wow...spot on!!!
LMAO!!!

No rants lately...

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 12:47 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 12:48 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
</P>


He followed to the letter the troop withdrawal agreement signed by George Bush.</P>


Healthcare is a joke. Everybody's costs have jumped this year and 65% of all Americans oppose it.</P>


He entered the WH with unemployment at 7 % and now its at 9.5% Plus we're an additional 3 trillion in debt. Now we're facing a possible double dip reccession.</P>


He's been doing a horrible job.</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:49 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u
lmao i bet you would.
</P>


i would too!</P>


</P>


FINE, I'll save the sextin' for you....all you had to do was ask! =P</P>


</P>


you gonna sham-WOW me? [;)] </P>


</P>


i dont even know what that means....but if you need me to shamwow you, you must make quite the mess....lol</P>

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 12:50 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u
lmao i bet you would.
</P>


i would too!</P>


</P>


FINE, I'll save the sextin' for you....all you had to do was ask! =P</P>


</P>


you gonna sham-WOW me? [;)] </P>


</P>


i dont even know what that means....but if you need me to shamwow you, you must make quite the mess....lol</P>


</P>


it was a blly mays reference lol</P>

bigblue4417
09-01-2010, 12:50 PM
Derek Jeter (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3178),
Mr. November, opens September in a slump, which may have implications
when it comes to signing him in the offseason. Jeter may be the ultimate
team guy, but two former teammates believe that when it comes to
getting paid, his pride will demand that he get something approaching
A-Rod money, regardless of what he hits this season. "It's up to (the Yankees (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/42)),"
one former player said. "Knowing Jeet, he's not going to let an
off-year, if it turns out to be an off-year, play a role in what he
thinks he should get paid. He just doesn't think like that. He'll be
more convinced than ever that he'll come back and hit .330 next year."
The second former teammate essentially agreed. "The question is whether
(Brian) Cashman and the others think this is the start of a decline," he
said.

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:51 PM
wow...spot on!!!
LMAO!!!

No rants lately...
</P>


hmmm....youre right...not this week yet anyway lol...</P>

bigblue4417
09-01-2010, 12:53 PM
Tom Brady (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/863) likes his reps in 2010. The Patriots (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/17)' fourth preseason game is Thursday against the Giants (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/19) in East Rutherford, N.J., and questions remain about whether quarterback Tom Brady (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/863)
and the first-team offense will play. This time, there may be reason to
think it will. Brady said during his weekly appearance on WEEI that he
wouldn't be surprised if he's asked to be back under center in the New
Meadowlands, considering the way the team played last Thursday in a
36-35 loss to St. Louis. "I think we're all playing," Brady said. "We're
all expecting to play. I don't know how long we'll play, but (coach
Bill Belichick) told everybody (Sunday), 'Get ready to play.'"

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:55 PM
Derek Jeter (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3178), Mr. November, opens September in a slump, which may have implications when it comes to signing him in the offseason. Jeter may be the ultimate team guy, but two former teammates believe that when it comes to getting paid, his pride will demand that he get something approaching A-Rod money, regardless of what he hits this season. "It's up to (the Yankees (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/42))," one former player said. "Knowing Jeet, he's not going to let an off-year, if it turns out to be an off-year, play a role in what he thinks he should get paid. He just doesn't think like that. He'll be more convinced than ever that he'll come back and hit .330 next year." The second former teammate essentially agreed. "The question is whether (Brian) Cashman and the others think this is the start of a decline," he said.</P>


Ballsy...and ***** move that these are unnamed former teammates.</P>


$100 says it's Chad Curtis. lol</P>


He'll get paid....and im sure the money isnt the biggest part of the deal...i think this is a bit of a dramatic article lol</P>

byron
09-01-2010, 12:56 PM
wow...spot on!!!
LMAO!!!

No rants lately...
</P>


hmmm....youre right...not this week yet anyway lol...</P> what about the wall...

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 12:56 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 12:56 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u

<font color="#ff1493">Pizz</font>

<font color="#800080">Dez</font>

<font color="#ff1493">

Matt is such a ****...</font>

<font color="#800080">yea for sure...</font>

<font color="#ff1493">hey you wanna come over tonight and watch Buffy? </font>

<font color="#800080">Sure man, after the show we can hold each others ****s and watch Phil highlights. </font>
</p>


wow...spot on!!! </p>lmao **** holdings my fav

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 12:57 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u
lmao i bet you would.
</P>


i would too!</P>


</P>


FINE, I'll save the sextin' for you....all you had to do was ask! =P</P>


</P>


you gonna sham-WOW me? [;)] </P>


</P>


i dont even know what that means....but if you need me to shamwow you, you must make quite the mess....lol</P>


</P>


it was a blly mays reference lol</P>


</P>


billy mays didnt sell the shamwow! some other crazy hooker-beater did! lol

but yes...whatever you say! lol</P>

bandwgn86
09-01-2010, 01:01 PM
am i too late, did i miss the lol @ Boston for losing to the O's again

bigblue4417
09-01-2010, 01:04 PM
<h3>NEW YORK GIANTS</h3>

What the Giants do best: Go deep on the defensive line.</p>

The
Giants believe very strongly that the most important position group on a
team, outside of the quarterback, is the defensive line. As usual, they
have continued to fortify the ranks in this regard. </p>

In April they added first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul and second-rounder Linval Joseph
to a rotation that was already considered among the deepest in the NFL.
The idea is to keep those linemen fresh throughout the game and healthy
over the season so they can return New York to its 2007 dominance down
the stretch and in the postseason. With questions marks behind it, this
unit needs to be as good as advertised if the G-Men hope to make it back
to the postseason after a one-year hiatus.</p>

What the Giants need to improve: Running the football.</p>

Once
thought to be the strength of the team, the running game was not nearly
as effective in 2009 as in the previous two seasons. Whether it was the
running style of Brandon Jacobs or the signs of age showing on
the offensive line, the bottom line was that the unit underperformed. It
won't be easy to get off on the right foot this season as starting
linemen Shaun O'Hara, Chris Snee, Kareem McKenzie and Rich Seubert have all missed time this preseason. This unit needs to get healthy in a hurry and offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride needs to find a way to get the ball in the hands of running back Ahmad Bradshaw as much as possible because of his speed and elusiveness.</p> <div class="cnnInlineT1Image">http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/writers/ross_tucker/08/31/nfc.east.preview/ahmad-bradshaw.jpg </div><div class="cnnInlineT1Caption">Ahmad Bradshaw has a 5.2 yards per carry average in his first three seasons in the NFL.</div><div class="cnnInlineT1Credit">
</div>

Which Giant needs to step up: Linebacker Michael Boley. </p>

With
serious question marks at the other two linebacker positions next to
him, Boley needs to become the elite playmaker he can be. He possesses
truly unique speed and athleticism for the position and could become one
of the best outside linebackers in the NFL if he can stay healthy and
focused. As the only known commodity at the second level of the defense
for Big Blue, he'll need to do exactly that.</p>

Predicted record: 9-7. </p>

The
Giants have too much talent and prideful personalities in their locker
room not to bounce back from last season's disastrous finish and have a
winning season. Their problem is that they reside in the toughest
division in football and already seem to be losing the battle of
attrition. If their injured veterans can return to action and stay
healthy for a full 16 games, they could squeeze into the playoff
picture, but that's a big if.</p><div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ross_tucker/08/31/nfc.east.preview/1.html#ixzz0yIJXwaeO
</div>

bigblue4417
09-01-2010, 01:05 PM
am i too late, did i miss the lol @ Boston for losing to the O's again
That Chapman kid looked incredible last night. Ohhhh ****, nevermind. lol

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:07 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</P>


</P>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </P>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</P>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</P>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:08 PM
Dezz.....PM, ****wad

lol i wuld love to see the convos goin on between the two of u
lmao i bet you would.
</P>


i would too!</P>


</P>


FINE, I'll save the sextin' for you....all you had to do was ask! =P</P>


</P>


you gonna sham-WOW me? [;)] </P>


</P>


i dont even know what that means....but if you need me to shamwow you, you must make quite the mess....lol</P>


</P>


it was a blly mays reference lol</P>


</P>


billy mays didnt sell the shamwow! some other crazy hooker-beater did! lol

but yes...whatever you say! lol</P>


</P>


Actually I think the hooker beat him first. (That does sound like our Pizzlestick)</P>

bandwgn86
09-01-2010, 01:11 PM
am i too late, did i miss the lol @ Boston for losing to the O's again
That Chapman kid looked incredible last night. Ohhhh ****, nevermind. lol
jack ***.. lol </P>


yes he did though [:$]</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:15 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>

says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight

byron
09-01-2010, 01:18 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
Its hard to tell wahts going on with the whole health care thing ...I had to go to the emergency room 2 months ago ..a cut got infected...anyway just to walk in therecost 306.00 dollars..the total bill was little over 1100 dollars.... we have fed blue cross blue sheld they picked up700 I got the rest ....they had me come back the next dayjust to make sure all was well.. total charges 416.00..less adjustments 553.19...less payments -906.79...please pay 62.40....I don't know what kind of math they are using butsomething ain't right...They 're all ah bunch crocks ...the whole thingcost me 462.00..I'm no doctor but I knew everything was all right beforethe second visit..the red streak was gone... my bad for going inand getting raped.. again....Greed... my friends</P>


</P>


I remember now ....its called fussy math</P>

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 01:19 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>im not just talking about health care. im talking about overall performance. the problem in america is ultra liberal thinking people that want to force their views on the majority. its up to the dems to find out who theyre voting for before they vote or we wind up with people like chuck schumer, polosi, and reid


its not a need of instant gratification in politics, its the way this administration goes about its business, our business.

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:24 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>im not just talking about health care. im talking about overall performance. the problem in america is ultra liberal thinking people that want to force their views on the majority. its up to the dems to find out who theyre voting for before they vote or we wind up with people like chuck schumer, polosi, and reid


its not a need of instant gratification in politics, its the way this administration goes about its business, our business.


the majority voted for this.. they aren't forcing it. Just because its not what u voted for. I had Bush's **** shoved down my throat.. this is what the american people voted in. YOU may not of wanted these things but your not talkingabout the majority.

You have the luxory of having a nice life and fam business and house in the hamptons..

the reality of it is that you are out of touch with the way most americans and what they need and want. ITs responses like yours that try and deflect and make it seem like most americans want what you want.

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:25 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
Its hard to tell wahts going on with the whole health care thing ...I had to go to the emergency room 2 months ago ..a cut got infected...anyway just to walk in therecost 306.00 dollars..the total bill was little over 1100 dollars we have fed blue cross blue sheld they picked 700 I got the rest they had me come back the next just to make sure all was well total charges 416.00..less adjustments 553.19...less payments -906.79...please pay 62.40....I don't know what kind of math they are using something ain't right...They are all a bunch crocks ...the whole thingcost me 462.00I'm no doctor but I knew everything was all right the second visit red streak was gone my bad for going and getting raped again....Greed... my friends </p>

thats a prime example

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:27 PM
so in the gwilk thread thats up, im of coarse doing my thing in there.

IMMEDIATLY after i mock those who bring up Gwilk covering moss as his only claim to fame, Captain Chaos tries to use it as a talking point about why Wilk is good

i like Captain Chaos, but its frustrating...

curious as to what the gwilk fan club will come up with now when he doesn't win a starting job

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:29 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</P>


</P>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </P>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</P>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</P>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</P>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</P>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</P>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</P>


I blame all politicians for that. </P>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</P>

ShockeyShow
09-01-2010, 01:33 PM
Is there really a debate about politricks goin on?

You guys shouldn't argue about this osi....how many times have you gotten into a debate w/ someone over it and both parties walked away aggravated as hell?

Almost every time I'm willing to argue!

What we SHOULD be talking about is how Tex has hit 30 homers in 7 of his first 8 seasons!

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:35 PM
Is there really a debate about politricks goin on? You guys shouldn't argue about this osi....how many times have you gotten into a debate w/ someone over it and both parties walked away aggravated as hell? Almost every time I'm willing to argue! What we SHOULD be talking about is how Tex has hit 30 homers in 7 of his first 8 seasons!</P>


Mercenaries have no soul.......Who cares.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:35 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</p>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</p>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</p>


I blame all politicians for that. </p>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</p>

well i disagree. I wish the government had more of a respectable intervention and regulated it more. More Regulations could of stopped all of this

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 01:37 PM
Is there really a debate about politricks goin on? You guys shouldn't argue about this osi....how many times have you gotten into a debate w/ someone over it and both parties walked away aggravated as hell? Almost every time I'm willing to argue! What we SHOULD be talking about is how Tex has hit 30 homers in 7 of his first 8 seasons!</P>


haha. I like how despite the Yanks' record, Tex, and A-Rod(before his injury) are quietly stringing together quite the season. Alex's HR total is way down, but his production shows he still has it.
Man.....if Tex didnt have such a morbid start to the season, his numbers right now would be stellar!! oh well!</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 01:39 PM
Is there really a debate about politricks goin on? You guys shouldn't argue about this osi....how many times have you gotten into a debate w/ someone over it and both parties walked away aggravated as hell? Almost every time I'm willing to argue! What we SHOULD be talking about is how Tex has hit 30 homers in 7 of his first 8 seasons!</P>


Mercenaries have no soul.......Who cares.</P>


</P>


boston lovers are not people.</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:40 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</P>


</P>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </P>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</P>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</P>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</P>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</P>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</P>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</P>


I blame all politicians for that. </P>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</P>




well i disagree. I wish the government had more of a respectable intervention and regulated it more. More Regulations could of stopped all of this
</P>


You are absolutely right. Real regulation would have prevented this. Regulating lending standards would have prevented the epidemic of upside down mortgages and forclosures. Unfortunatley, the government was a willing enabler in this nightmare.</P>


Businesses act in self interest. Private citizens act in self intertest. Labor unions act in self interest. Thats free market capitalism. Thats what made us the most prosperous country in the history of the planet. The government is supposed to act in the national interest. It failed.</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:41 PM
Is there really a debate about politricks goin on? You guys shouldn't argue about this osi....how many times have you gotten into a debate w/ someone over it and both parties walked away aggravated as hell? Almost every time I'm willing to argue! What we SHOULD be talking about is how Tex has hit 30 homers in 7 of his first 8 seasons!</P>


haha. I like how despite the Yanks' record, Tex, and A-Rod(before his injury) are quietly stringing together quite the season. Alex's HR total is way down, but his production shows he still has it.
Man.....if Tex didnt have such a morbid start to the season, his numbers right now would be stellar!! oh well!</P>


</P>


Baseball is an interesting distraction until football season starts.</P>


Baseball is over as of next Thursday.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:42 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</p>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</p>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</p>


I blame all politicians for that. </p>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</p>




well i disagree. I wish the government had more of a respectable intervention and regulated it more. More Regulations could of stopped all of this
</p>


You are absolutely right. Real regulation would have prevented this. Regulating lending standards would have prevented the epidemic of upside down mortgages and forclosures. Unfortunatley, the government was a willing enabler in this nightmare.</p>


Businesses act in self interest. Private citizens act in self intertest. Labot unions act in self interest. Thats free market capitalism. Thats what made us the most prosperous country in the history of the planet. The government is supposed to act in the national interest. It failed.</p>

aren't u contradicting yourself by agreeing with me but then blame this on the government intervening?

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:43 PM
Is there really a debate about politricks goin on? You guys shouldn't argue about this osi....how many times have you gotten into a debate w/ someone over it and both parties walked away aggravated as hell? Almost every time I'm willing to argue! What we SHOULD be talking about is how Tex has hit 30 homers in 7 of his first 8 seasons!</p>


haha. I like how despite the Yanks' record, Tex, and A-Rod(before his injury) are quietly stringing together quite the season. Alex's HR total is way down, but his production shows he still has it.
Man.....if Tex didnt have such a morbid start to the season, his numbers right now would be stellar!! oh well!</p>


</p>


Baseball is an interesting distraction until football season starts.</p>


Baseball is over as of next Thursday.</p>

at least we agree on something...

i'll watch in october tho

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 01:44 PM
Is there really a debate about politricks goin on? You guys shouldn't argue about this osi....how many times have you gotten into a debate w/ someone over it and both parties walked away aggravated as hell? Almost every time I'm willing to argue! What we SHOULD be talking about is how Tex has hit 30 homers in 7 of his first 8 seasons!</P>


haha. I like how despite the Yanks' record, Tex, and A-Rod(before his injury) are quietly stringing together quite the season. Alex's HR total is way down, but his production shows he still has it.
Man.....if Tex didnt have such a morbid start to the season, his numbers right now would be stellar!! oh well!</P>


</P>


Baseball is an interesting distraction until football season starts.</P>


Baseball is over as of next Thursday.</P>


</P>


sure! for teams who SUCK!</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:45 PM
Is there really a debate about politricks goin on? You guys shouldn't argue about this osi....how many times have you gotten into a debate w/ someone over it and both parties walked away aggravated as hell? Almost every time I'm willing to argue! What we SHOULD be talking about is how Tex has hit 30 homers in 7 of his first 8 seasons!</p>


haha. I like how despite the Yanks' record, Tex, and A-Rod(before his injury) are quietly stringing together quite the season. Alex's HR total is way down, but his production shows he still has it.
Man.....if Tex didnt have such a morbid start to the season, his numbers right now would be stellar!! oh well!</p>


</p>


Baseball is an interesting distraction until football season starts.</p>


Baseball is over as of next Thursday.</p>


</p>


sure! for teams who SUCK!</p>

na..

Baseball is just to pass the time..

Once football starts thats all im watching

bandwgn86
09-01-2010, 01:45 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</P>


</P>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </P>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</P>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</P>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</P>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</P>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</P>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</P>


I blame all politicians for that. </P>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</P>

well i disagree. I wish the government had more of a respectable intervention and regulated it more. More Regulations could of stopped all of this
[8]S-O-CIA-LISMis here to stay[8]

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:48 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</p>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</p>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</p>


I blame all politicians for that. </p>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</p>

well i disagree. I wish the government had more of a respectable intervention and regulated it more. More Regulations could of stopped all of this
[8]S-O-CIA-LISMis here to stay[8]

everything needs to be balanced, but we need a better job out of our government to protect the people

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:48 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</P>


</P>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </P>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</P>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</P>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</P>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</P>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</P>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</P>


I blame all politicians for that. </P>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</P>




well i disagree. I wish the government had more of a respectable intervention and regulated it more. More Regulations could of stopped all of this
</P>


You are absolutely right. Real regulation would have prevented this. Regulating lending standards would have prevented the epidemic of upside down mortgages and forclosures. Unfortunatley, the government was a willing enabler in this nightmare.</P>


Businesses act in self interest. Private citizens act in self intertest. Labot unions act in self interest. Thats free market capitalism. Thats what made us the most prosperous country in the history of the planet. The government is supposed to act in the national interest. It failed.</P>




aren't u contradicting yourself by agreeing with me but then blame this on the government intervening?
</P>


Govenments job is to maintain balance. Balance between competing companies, between labor and management, between rights of the consumer vs. rights of the provider,etc....</P>


Good regulation maintains that balance and allows the American economy to prosper.</P>


Bad regulation creates an unbalance which leads to the crisis we have.</P>


Quite frankly, 90% of this crisis was created by Freddy and Fanny. They are supported by the Dems and they finance the Dems campaigns. Thats an absolute fact.</P>


It wa Barnie Frank who said "I see no problem with Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae" in 2007. All while they were buying up bad mortgages.</P>


Nothing makes smart people stupider than a political agenda.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:50 PM
and just curious Moorehead...

what are u basing ur 75% of americans like your health coverage?

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:51 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</P>


</P>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </P>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</P>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</P>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</P>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</P>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</P>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</P>


I blame all politicians for that. </P>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</P>

well i disagree. I wish the government had more of a respectable intervention and regulated it more. More Regulations could of stopped all of this
[8]S-O-CIA-LISMis here to stay[8]

everything needs to be balanced, but we need a better job out of our government to protect the people <FONT color=#000080>from a tyrannical government. (That passes a Health Care bill vs. the will of the American People)


</FONT>

bandwgn86
09-01-2010, 01:52 PM
tear it all down and start again.. and end unions while you're at it..

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:55 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>




says the person who is happy with his healthcare and lives in a good part of the country... talk to lando about that.

And na this recession took years of bull****ting wtih mnortgages and kickbacks and wars to bring us here. I totally disagree with ur over night this all happened.

Infact if i remember correctly you were saying this all started during Clintons presidancy. I would hardly say that is overnight
</p>


The recession didn't start in the Clinton admin., but the banking crisis did. Recessions are a normal part of market oriented capitalism. The banking crisis started years ago with this obsession that everyone should own a home. Freddy and Fanny started buying up mortgages regardless of the underwriting standards. Which is why banks were lowering them. The banks could underwrite poor mortgages because Freddy and Fanny would buy them up. This sham of a financial reform bill failed to address underwriting standards in any way. Which is the primary cause of the banking meltdown.</p>


This is what happens when the government intervenes in market forces.</p>


I blame all politicians for that. </p>


And yes, like 75% of all Americans, I like my health coverage.</p>

well i disagree. I wish the government had more of a respectable intervention and regulated it more. More Regulations could of stopped all of this
[8]S-O-CIA-LISMis here to stay[8]

everything needs to be balanced, but we need a better job out of our government to protect the people <font color="#000080">from a tyrannical government. (That passes a Health Care bill vs. the will of the American People)


</font>

OBamas main platform was healthcare... it wasn't agains the people as much as u say it is pappy

dont throw me your polls or percentages either. You have NO IDEA the sample size of the people asked or who was asked.

Its ridiculous to just throw random numbers out there and act like they hold water. Your smarter than that

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 01:55 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>im not just talking about health care. im talking about overall performance. the problem in america is ultra liberal thinking people that want to force their views on the majority. its up to the dems to find out who theyre voting for before they vote or we wind up with people like chuck schumer, polosi, and reid


its not a need of instant gratification in politics, its the way this administration goes about its business, our business.


the majority voted for this.. they aren't forcing it. Just because its not what u voted for. I had Bush's **** shoved down my throat.. this is what the american people voted in. YOU may not of wanted these things but your not talkingabout the majority.

You have the luxory of having a nice life and fam business and house in the hamptons..

the reality of it is that you are out of touch with the way most americans and what they need and want. ITs responses like yours that try and deflect and make it seem like most americans want what you want.
voted for what? i said im not just talking about health care and WE didnt vote on healthcare. the government did. im talking about overall performance. majority didnt want a healthcare bill either. the people were duped by a used car salesman. just because i live a "nice life" doesnt mean i cant tell when im being bull****ted. stop acting like you have it so hard.
its a mindset that they have buddy. these are the people that want to build a mosque on ground zero, close gitmo, give terrorist american rights. you can dress it up anyway you like but NOW, right now, the majority does not like obama. those are facts.

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:57 PM
tear it all down and start again.. and end unions while you're at it..

ehh.. i agree and disagree. I am so on the fence about unions.

They've helped so many for so long but they also get too much imo.

I wouldn't mind taking them away if we could trust our government and big business.. but we cant

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 01:58 PM
so how did everyone like bams speech last night?


he did pull them out by august like he said he would...

he did put healthcare in the works

he dropped the ball with BP

Hes done certain things to revitilize the economy, specifically the cars

you can't say hes been doing a horrible job.

Bring our boys and girls home, time we take care of our own
not one mention of capturing saddam, not one mention of finding tons and tons of yellow cake. but he did manage to fit talking about the economy. and theres still 50000 troops in iraq by the way. this was alllllll political bull****

hes a disgrace matt.

has healthcare helped you in anyway, noooooo. premiums are already going up, just like daven said.
what certain things has he done to revitalize the economy? cash for clunckers was a complete failure. so was the "stimulus", a large portion of which has yet found. yes we "lost" a few billion.
more vacations than any other president...when **** goes down, hes never around.
of course i can say hes doing a terrible job. what has he done for you, honestly can you name one thing?


it hasn't kicked in yet and of coarse premiums were gonna go up, they've gone up just about on par like they always have. Its the scumbag insurance companies, which have been screwing the american people over since the dawn of time, that are scrounging trying to get their last dollars in. **** them.

And change doesn't happen over night dez. Your need for instant gratification with politics will make u a miserable person. Its a bigger picture. Dont be so short sighted and selfish. My premiums went up about as much as they always do
</p>


</p>


Unfortunately the additional several million unemployed and the additional 3 trillion in debt DID happen overnight. </p>


Change will be put on hold. The Republicans will take over the House and possibly the Senate. And they are almost as bigof idiots as the Dems.</p>


And any informed unagenda'd observer will tell you that the HC bill was nothing but fluff. It did nothing to add coverage for anyone and did nothing to control HC costs. It was simply an attempt to save face for the Administration.</p>


No ones life will change for the better as a product of its passing, except for the beaurocrats.</p>im not just talking about health care. im talking about overall performance. the problem in america is ultra liberal thinking people that want to force their views on the majority. its up to the dems to find out who theyre voting for before they vote or we wind up with people like chuck schumer, polosi, and reid


its not a need of instant gratification in politics, its the way this administration goes about its business, our business.


the majority voted for this.. they aren't forcing it. Just because its not what u voted for. I had Bush's **** shoved down my throat.. this is what the american people voted in. YOU may not of wanted these things but your not talkingabout the majority.

You have the luxory of having a nice life and fam business and house in the hamptons..

the reality of it is that you are out of touch with the way most americans and what they need and want. ITs responses like yours that try and deflect and make it seem like most americans want what you want.
voted for what? i said im not just talking about health care and WE didnt vote on healthcare. the government did. im talking about overall performance. majority didnt want a healthcare bill either. the people were duped by a used car salesman. just because i live a "nice life" doesnt mean i cant tell when im being bull****ted. stop acting like you have it so hard.
its a mindset that they have buddy. these are the people that want to build a mosque on ground zero, close gitmo, give terrorist american rights. you can dress it up anyway you like but NOW, right now, the majority does not like obama. those are facts.


the fact is when a president is voted in and healthcare change was his biggest platform of his campaign... then THAT DID get voted in

Now ur blaming Obama for the state of new york? I think he had something to with the Holocast too

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 01:59 PM
and just curious Moorehead...

what are u basing ur 75% of americans like your health coverage?
</P>


From the Washington Post.</P>


My numbers were actually low.</P>


</P>


</P>


"It's a huge barrier," said Robert J. Blendon, a professor of health-care policy and political analysis at Harvard University. He cited a Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,001 adults in June that found that 83 percent were either "somewhat" or "very" satisfied with the care they receive and 81 percent felt the same way about their insurance. "These people have something to lose. If they think reform is going to actually make it worse for them, they get really scared." </P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:01 PM
and just curious Moorehead...

what are u basing ur 75% of americans like your health coverage?
</p>


From the Washington Post.</p>


My numbers were actually low.</p>


</p>


</p>


"It's a huge barrier," said Robert J. Blendon, a professor of health-care policy and political analysis at Harvard University. He cited a Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,001 adults in June that found that 83 percent were either "somewhat" or "very" satisfied with the care they receive and 81 percent felt the same way about their insurance. "These people have something to lose. If they think reform is going to actually make it worse for them, they get really scared." </p>


</p>

1000 adults? lol

where are they from

what percentage is 1000 people out of all americans

if u dont see where im going with this, then i fear for you

byron
09-01-2010, 02:02 PM
tear it all down and start again.. and end unions while you're at it..

ehh.. i agree and disagree. I am so on the fence about unions.

They've helped so many for so long but they also get too much imo.

<FONT color=#0000ff><FONT color=#000000>I wouldn't mind taking them away</FONT> if we could trust our government and big business.. but we cant
</FONT>

there it is in a nut shell Matt....sadly

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:04 PM
tear it all down and start again.. and end unions while you're at it..

ehh.. i agree and disagree. I am so on the fence about unions.

They've helped so many for so long but they also get too much imo.

<font color="#0000ff"><font color="#000000">I wouldn't mind taking them away</font> if we could trust our government and big business.. but we cant
</font>

there it is in a nut shell Matt....sadly

it is very sad

ny06
09-01-2010, 02:04 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 02:04 PM
and just curious Moorehead...

what are u basing ur 75% of americans like your health coverage?
</P>


From the Washington Post.</P>


My numbers were actually low.</P>


</P>


</P>


"It's a huge barrier," said Robert J. Blendon, a professor of health-care policy and political analysis at Harvard University. He cited a Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,001 adults in June that found that 83 percent were either "somewhat" or "very" satisfied with the care they receive and 81 percent felt the same way about their insurance. "These people have something to lose. If they think reform is going to actually make it worse for them, they get really scared." </P>


</P>




1000 adults? lol

where are they from

what percentage is 1000 people out of all americans

if u dont see where im going with this, then i fear for you
</P>


You obviously don't understand the science of public opinion polling. 1000 is actually a large sampling.</P>


They are mathematically determined by an accurate cross section of all demographics.</P>


These polls tend to fall within plus or minus 3%. Every poll like this taken over the past several years have produced similar results.</P>

bandwgn86
09-01-2010, 02:04 PM
tear it all down and start again.. and end unions while you're at it..

ehh.. i agree and disagree. I am so on the fence about unions.

They've helped so many for so long but they also get too much imo.

I wouldn't mind taking them away if we could trust our government and big business.. but we cant


i'm not sure what or if there is any difference in workers rights we have but the employee up here has so many rights they made Unions useless, they did help alot but now there choking out cities with greed..

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 02:04 PM
what? dont put words in my mouth. he supports building a mosque at ground zero. thats all im saying. he worries more about offending muslims than protecting american citizens.

byron
09-01-2010, 02:06 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P> Lmao...i should know better also......were bonding

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 02:06 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:09 PM
and just curious Moorehead...

what are u basing ur 75% of americans like your health coverage?
</p>


From the Washington Post.</p>


My numbers were actually low.</p>


</p>


</p>


"It's a huge barrier," said Robert J. Blendon, a professor of health-care policy and political analysis at Harvard University. He cited a Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,001 adults in June that found that 83 percent were either "somewhat" or "very" satisfied with the care they receive and 81 percent felt the same way about their insurance. "These people have something to lose. If they think reform is going to actually make it worse for them, they get really scared." </p>


</p>




1000 adults? lol

where are they from

what percentage is 1000 people out of all americans

if u dont see where im going with this, then i fear for you
</p>


You obviously don't understand the science of public opinion polling. 1000 is actually a large sampling.</p>


They are mathematically determined by an accurate cross section of all demographics.</p>


These polls tend to fall within plus or minus 3%. Every poll like this taken over the past several years have produced similar results.</p>

no i do understand it, which is why i put ZERO stock into it.

Theres about 300mil americans over the age of 18 in this country. 1000 would be .003 of these americans...

your going to try and speak for the rest of the country because of .003%? Thats lunacy.

Your trying to sell me that that is a better indicator of the country than the voting process. Thats insane.

Quite frankly, 1000 maybe alot for a poll, but its nothing in reality. YOu have no clue where these people were pulled from and its insulting that u'd even use it to back your case

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:12 PM
what if i went to Newark and polled 2000 people, would that be more justified than your poll?

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:13 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>

its actually depressing lol

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 02:14 PM
what if i went to Newark and polled 2000 people, would that be more justified than your poll?
well now youre just being a racist.[:)] iv always wanted to say that to a lib.

bandwgn86
09-01-2010, 02:16 PM
what if i went to Newark and polled 2000 people, would that be more justified than your poll?
you said polled lol

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 02:16 PM
and just curious Moorehead...

what are u basing ur 75% of americans like your health coverage?
</P>


From the Washington Post.</P>


My numbers were actually low.</P>


</P>


</P>


"It's a huge barrier," said Robert J. Blendon, a professor of health-care policy and political analysis at Harvard University. He cited a Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,001 adults in June that found that 83 percent were either "somewhat" or "very" satisfied with the care they receive and 81 percent felt the same way about their insurance. "These people have something to lose. If they think reform is going to actually make it worse for them, they get really scared." </P>


</P>




1000 adults? lol

where are they from

what percentage is 1000 people out of all americans

if u dont see where im going with this, then i fear for you
</P>


You obviously don't understand the science of public opinion polling. 1000 is actually a large sampling.</P>


They are mathematically determined by an accurate cross section of all demographics.</P>


These polls tend to fall within plus or minus 3%. Every poll like this taken over the past several years have produced similar results.</P>




no i do understand it, which is why i put ZERO stock into it.

Theres about 300mil americans over the age of 18 in this country. 1000 would be .003 of these americans...

your going to try and speak for the rest of the country because of .003%? Thats lunacy.

Your trying to sell me that that is a better indicator of the country than the voting process. Thats insane.

Quite frankly, 1000 maybe alot for a poll, but its nothing in reality. YOu have no clue where these people were pulled from and its insulting that u'd even use it to back your case
</P>


Obama didn't get elected because of his position on Health Care.As a matter of fact, he spoke during the campaign against any mandate on the American people to buy health coverage. Which was in the bill that passed.</P>


He got elected because the American people hated George Bush. The fact that Obama got only 53% of the vote demonstrates the voters reluctance to elect such an inexperience candidate.</P>


Given the public contempt for Bush, he should have won the elction by 20 points.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:19 PM
what if i went to Newark and polled 2000 people, would that be more justified than your poll?
well now youre just being a racist.[:)] iv always wanted to say that to a lib.


saying that Newark is a poverty stricken place and odds are isn't going to have 80% acceptance rate of their insurances

Your still the racist for even taking it there sir

and im not racist, i hate everyone equally

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 02:20 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>




MY WHAT A LOVELY TEA PARTY!</P>


I just looked out my window and saw a segull! how cool!!

I heard when basketball starts back up, that theres a similar sport they play on ice! with sticks!! it's ****ing crazy, man!!!!

I have a dog named Molly....a bull mastif. My brother and his gf have a pitbul named Tizzy...we try to make her swim, but shes too heavy, and sinks =(

I finally got the window regulator for my broken car window. maybe now I can roll it up and down! This is the 2nd Honda i've owned that this has happened to.

I tried to change the air filter in my car, but the hardware on the box is so soft that it's already stripped. which is odd, because i've never changed the filter before on it.

it is 92 degrees out.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:24 PM
and just curious Moorehead...

what are u basing ur 75% of americans like your health coverage?
</p>


From the Washington Post.</p>


My numbers were actually low.</p>


</p>


</p>


"It's a huge barrier," said Robert J. Blendon, a professor of health-care policy and political analysis at Harvard University. He cited a Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,001 adults in June that found that 83 percent were either "somewhat" or "very" satisfied with the care they receive and 81 percent felt the same way about their insurance. "These people have something to lose. If they think reform is going to actually make it worse for them, they get really scared." </p>


</p>




1000 adults? lol

where are they from

what percentage is 1000 people out of all americans

if u dont see where im going with this, then i fear for you
</p>


You obviously don't understand the science of public opinion polling. 1000 is actually a large sampling.</p>


They are mathematically determined by an accurate cross section of all demographics.</p>


These polls tend to fall within plus or minus 3%. Every poll like this taken over the past several years have produced similar results.</p>




no i do understand it, which is why i put ZERO stock into it.

Theres about 300mil americans over the age of 18 in this country. 1000 would be .003 of these americans...

your going to try and speak for the rest of the country because of .003%? Thats lunacy.

Your trying to sell me that that is a better indicator of the country than the voting process. Thats insane.

Quite frankly, 1000 maybe alot for a poll, but its nothing in reality. YOu have no clue where these people were pulled from and its insulting that u'd even use it to back your case
</p>


Obama didn't get elected because of his position on Health Care.As a matter of fact, he spoke during the campaign against any mandate on the American people to buy health coverage. Which was in the bill that passed.</p>


He got elected because the American people hated George Bush. The fact that Obama got only 53% of the vote demonstrates the voters reluctance to elect such an inexperience candidate.</p>


Given the public contempt for Bush, he should have won the elction by 20 points.</p>

if ur suggesting Healthcare reform wasn't his biggest platform, then theres no point in having this convo today

the bottom line is when u vote somebody in, more than likely their biggest platform is going to be put into effect. And its a given.

You could make that case about Bush and there is validity to it, but it is what it is. Nothing but excuses from ur repubs....

But Moorehead you are very short sighted in this. You live in a good area but the majority of this country isn't like that right now.

and sine when is somewhat satisfied something to write home about? This is why polls are ****in stupid... it should be yes or no for one thing. Second is i would like to know where they got these people from. You dont know all the variables or what "somewhat" satisfied actually means so theres no point in acting like ur points driven home.

bottom line .003% isn't speaking for this country in any sense. My job all day is to check sample sizes. 4% is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM we're allowed to check pretty much and even that stuff still gets thru.

Joe Morrison
09-01-2010, 02:25 PM
tear it all down and start again.. and end unions while you're at it..

Must we all remember that if were not for Unions we, the middle class would not exist, we would be making $ 100.00 a week if we were lucky to accomplish that, no benefits, no vacation, no 40 hour work week, no lunch break, it would be like working like the rest of the 3rd world.

Over time the Unions have priced themselves high which has not helped with keeping competitive, but these increases in pay over the last 20 years have been mainly due to the cost of healthcare in this country just be handed a wild card to raise their premiums to an unaffordable level.

So remember that the so called Union worker is listed as middle class and is suffering just as the rest with rising unemployment, losing their insurance and rising cobra coverage.

What has the introduction of the new healthcare bill accomplished? It has let the insurance companies raise their rates by over 150% since it's been announced, nice plan.

So where are we headed, only time will tell but it looks like at least our soldiers will start coming home soon.

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:27 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>




MY WHAT A LOVELY TEA PARTY!</p>


I just looked out my window and saw a segull! how cool!!

I heard when basketball starts back up, that theres a similar sport they play on ice! with sticks!! it's ****ing crazy, man!!!!

I have a dog named Molly....a bull mastif. My brother and his gf have a pitbul named Tizzy...we try to make her swim, but shes too heavy, and sinks =(

I finally got the window regulator for my broken car window. maybe now I can roll it up and down! This is the 2nd Honda i've owned that this has happened to.

I tried to change the air filter in my car, but the hardware on the box is so soft that it's already stripped. which is odd, because i've never changed the filter before on it.

it is 92 degrees out.</p>

im trying to be distracted by the gwilk thread but nobdy wants to go at it with me lol

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 02:27 PM
what if i went to Newark and polled 2000 people, would that be more justified than your poll?
well now youre just being a racist.[:)] iv always wanted to say that to a lib.


saying that Newark is a poverty stricken place and odds are isn't going to have 80% acceptance rate of their insurances

Your still the racist for even taking it there sir

and im not racist, i hate everyone equally
lol me? youre the one that brought up newark. stop being so God damn serious.

ShockeyShow
09-01-2010, 02:27 PM
crappy crap crap! This debate has gone on for an hour now!

What's the opportunity cost of this convo? A GOOGLE! Why stress yourselves out over something neither of you can resolve?

What is Mark Ingram's injury? I love me some Bama football and hope to see him back in crimson soon.

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:31 PM
tear it all down and start again.. and end unions while you're at it..

Must we all remember that if were not for Unions we, the middle class would not exist, we would be making $ 100.00 a week if we were lucky to accomplish that, no benefits, no vacation, no 40 hour work week, no lunch break, it would be like working like the rest of the 3rd world.

Over time the Unions have priced themselves high which has not helped with keeping competitive, but these increases in pay over the last 20 years have been mainly due to the cost of healthcare in this country just be handed a wild card to raise their premiums to an unaffordable level.

So remember that the so called Union worker is listed as middle class and is suffering just as the rest with rising unemployment, losing their insurance and rising cobra coverage.

What has the introduction of the new healthcare bill accomplished? It has let the insurance companies raise their rates by over 150% since it's been announced, nice plan.

So where are we headed, only time will tell but it looks like at least our soldiers will start coming home soon.

i dunno about anybody else but my health care hasn't raised 150% and i dont know anybodies that has.

and yes its recognized what the unions have done for this country, but as u said Unions got corrupt and priced themselves too high.

Again this was never an overnight change with the healthcare

byron
09-01-2010, 02:33 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P> Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 02:36 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =]

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:38 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p> Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down

lol i hate when byron gets worked up then leaves

stay and duke it out brotha

byron
09-01-2010, 02:38 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =] Hahaha... thats good news man...whats a bi-weekly..lol

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:39 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =]

mine was 10 dollars a month lol..

last year was 15

ShockeyShow
09-01-2010, 02:39 PM
Matt Leinart coming to the Meadowlands? The kid is in a rough spot when it comes to his career and I think he would make a great addition to our team.

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:42 PM
Matt Leinart coming to the Meadowlands? The kid is in a rough spot when it comes to his career and I think he would make a great addition to our team.

it happened?

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 02:43 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =]yea pizz i brought tucker and toby to a lake upstate early july and toby(pit) wouldnt go in past mid chest. lol tried pulling him a little bit but he wasnt having it. but you could kinda tell he wouldnt know how. i think its all the muscle that sinks them plus not knowing how to swim. tucker on the other hand was a *****. ****ing water dog and he didnt even want to get his paws wet. so i picked him up and put him in about chest high for him. he just sat down and looked sad. lol *****.

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 02:44 PM
Matt Leinart coming to the Meadowlands? The kid is in a rough spot when it comes to his career and I think he would make a great addition to our team.

it happened?
stfu....

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 02:47 PM
well its really not a stfu move sooo, really???

byron
09-01-2010, 02:50 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P> Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down

lol i hate when byron gets worked up then leaves

stay and duke it out brotha
Haha ..I'm all good...there is just no excuse for this country or the world for that matter to be so ******ed ...at the end of the daymy life's not to bad...I have worked hard sure ..raised a family got house with a little land and I can breath ...top it both my kids have good jobs andare taking care of themselfs nicely things could always be better but hey I'm going to NJ in Oct...yeehaaaa

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 02:51 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p> Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down

lol i hate when byron gets worked up then leaves

stay and duke it out brotha
Haha ..I'm all good...there is just no excuse for this country or the world for that matter to be so ******ed ...at the end of the daymy life's not to bad...I have worked hard sure ..raised a family got house with a little land and I can breath ...top it both my kids have good jobs andare taking care of themselfs nicely things could always be better but hey I'm going to NJ in Oct...yeehaaaa

lol amen

ShockeyShow
09-01-2010, 02:53 PM
Matt Leinart coming to the Meadowlands? The kid is in a rough spot when it comes to his career and I think he would make a great addition to our team.

it happened?


No no, not yet. But there has been some speculation about it.

Word on the street is that he's either coming here or Oakland. If I were him, I'd go to Oakland bc he has a better shot at beating out Campbell for a starter job. If he wants to get a ring and be a part of a championship organization howeverrrr.....

He'll be pretty far away from Nick Lachey if he comes here though....that'll suck for him,he looked like he was having a great time with that beer bong and those sorostitutes!

byron
09-01-2010, 02:58 PM
I'd sign for the mim..with one stipulation if Eli were to get hurt I ain't going in....</P>


I'm crazy..lol..not really ..well maybe.....</P>


89 in the shade...love the ac</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 02:58 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 03:05 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =]yea pizz i brought tucker and toby to a lake upstate early july and toby(pit) wouldnt go in past mid chest. lol tried pulling him a little bit but he wasnt having it. but you could kinda tell he wouldnt know how. i think its all the muscle that sinks them plus not knowing how to swim. tucker on the other hand was a *****. ****ing water dog and he didnt even want to get his paws wet. so i picked him up and put him in about chest high for him. he just sat down and looked sad. lol *****.
</P>


hahahahaha
Tizzy loves water...when she can control it...she hates being sprayed, and she wont even go near you with an open bottle lol.
But when we are out by the pool we give her her own kiddie pool! lol she loves it! she runs around in a little circle and dunks her head in at the same time and tries to bite it. it's hilarious.
We were at the lake the other day at my friend's house, and she'll run out on the dock, run back and like jump off the corner into the water, but like, not into deep water...just where she knows she can touch cuz her *** just sinks, shes like pure muscle and her paddling does nothing. she freaks out when we try to BRING her in the water though. poor girl =\</P>

ShockeyShow
09-01-2010, 03:06 PM
Pat Fitz' has Eli as the #7 overall QB this year.

That's prettay prettayyy pretty nice!

Man I can't wait for football to start

byron
09-01-2010, 03:08 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>


CoolmanI won't argue with anythat Mh......</P>


of the people.. by the people...for the people </P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Matt Leinart coming to the Meadowlands? The kid is in a rough spot when it comes to his career and I think he would make a great addition to our team.

it happened?


No no, not yet. But there has been some speculation about it.

Word on the street is that he's either coming here or Oakland. If I were him, I'd go to Oakland bc he has a better shot at beating out Campbell for a starter job. If he wants to get a ring and be a part of a championship organization howeverrrr.....

He'll be pretty far away from Nick Lachey if he comes here though....that'll suck for him,he looked like he was having a great time with that beer bong and those sorostitutes!

lol just read that its unlikely

byron
09-01-2010, 03:17 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =]yea pizz i brought tucker and toby to a lake upstate early july and toby(pit) wouldnt go in past mid chest. lol tried pulling him a little bit but he wasnt having it. but you could kinda tell he wouldnt know how. i think its all the muscle that sinks them plus not knowing how to swim. tucker on the other hand was a *****. ****ing water dog and he didnt even want to get his paws wet. so i picked him up and put him in about chest high for him. he just sat down and looked sad. lol *****.
</P>


hahahahaha
Tizzy loves water...when she can control it...she hates being sprayed, and she wont even go near you with an open bottle lol.
But when we are out by the pool we give her her own kiddie pool! lol she loves it! she runs around in a little circle and dunks her head in at the same time and tries to bite it. it's hilarious.
We were at the lake the other day at my friend's house, and she'll run out on the dock, run back and like jump off the corner into the water, but like, not into deep water...just where she knows she can touch cuz her *** just sinks, shes like pure muscle and her paddling does nothing. she freaks out when we try to BRING her in the water though. poor girl =\</P>


I think they are all a little scared at first ...we have so many that they teach each other kind of</P>


the pups see the big dogs doing it and like that...Bud is the most argessive of the bunch... you throw something and he runs down the dock and jumps out as far as he can and its a race for the stick fun to watch...I used to have one that would dive to the bottom for a rock man it something to watch her...</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 03:17 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>


CoolmanI won't argue with anythat Mh......</P>


of the people.. by the people...for the people </P>


</P>


Then we agree my friend.</P>


</P>


What Matt doesn't understand is that I've been down in my life......way down. He suggests that I live in some fairy tale world where everyone is wealthy. I've been bankrupt, I've been dumped by my wife, I've been fired. I've lived a life that most people can relate to. </P>


It never once would have occured to me that the federal government would be the answer to my problems. Just give me the same opportunity as anyone else to pick myself up and get my life straight, and I'm good with that.</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>Fortunately for me, my great looks and charisma enabled me to get wealthy, attactive women to take care of me.</FONT></P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:17 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>

just promise me no more random polls, thanks

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:20 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>


CoolmanI won't argue with anythat Mh......</p>


of the people.. by the people...for the people </p>


</p>


Then we agree my friend.</p>


</p>


What Matt doesn't understand is that I've been down in my life......way down. He suggests that I live in some fairy tale world where everyone is wealthy. I've been bankrupt, I've been dumped by my wife, I've been fired. I've lived a life that most people can relate to. </p>


It never once would have occured to me that the federal government would be the answer to my problems. Just give me the same opportunity as anyone else to pick myself up and get my life straight, and I'm good with that.</p>


<font color="#ff0000">Fortunately for me, my great looks and charisma enabled me to get wealthy, attactive women to take care of me.</font></p>

no u are misunderstanding me. I've never made those accusations to you pappy. Only on this specific topic of helathcare. You said you dont know anybody and eveybody by you loves their health care. What i am saying is that currently ur basing the rest of the country on a dumb poll and ur local surrounding.

I apologize if my comments came off the way u think they did, but that isn't what i was trying to say.

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 03:22 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =]yea pizz i brought tucker and toby to a lake upstate early july and toby(pit) wouldnt go in past mid chest. lol tried pulling him a little bit but he wasnt having it. but you could kinda tell he wouldnt know how. i think its all the muscle that sinks them plus not knowing how to swim. tucker on the other hand was a *****. ****ing water dog and he didnt even want to get his paws wet. so i picked him up and put him in about chest high for him. he just sat down and looked sad. lol *****.
</P>


hahahahaha
Tizzy loves water...when she can control it...she hates being sprayed, and she wont even go near you with an open bottle lol.
But when we are out by the pool we give her her own kiddie pool! lol she loves it! she runs around in a little circle and dunks her head in at the same time and tries to bite it. it's hilarious.
We were at the lake the other day at my friend's house, and she'll run out on the dock, run back and like jump off the corner into the water, but like, not into deep water...just where she knows she can touch cuz her *** just sinks, shes like pure muscle and her paddling does nothing. she freaks out when we try to BRING her in the water though. poor girl =\</P>


I think they are all a little scared at first ...we have so many that they teach each other kind of</P>


the pups see the big dogs doing it and like that...Bud is the most argessive of the bunch... you throw something and he runs down the dock and jumps out as far as he can and its a race for the stick fun to watch...I used to have one that would dive to the bottom for a rock man it something to watch her...</P>

Ugh that's sooo awesome! i wish my dogs could do that. Tizzy too heavy, and Molly is too heavy, and def. does not care cuz shes huge, old, and lazy. but shes still my little puppy! she rather sit in the shade and drink water all day lol
My dad has a retriever like that tho! jumps in and out of the pool just cuz it likes to! lol

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 03:22 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</P>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</P>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</P>

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 03:22 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =]yea pizz i brought tucker and toby to a lake upstate early july and toby(pit) wouldnt go in past mid chest. lol tried pulling him a little bit but he wasnt having it. but you could kinda tell he wouldnt know how. i think its all the muscle that sinks them plus not knowing how to swim. tucker on the other hand was a *****. ****ing water dog and he didnt even want to get his paws wet. so i picked him up and put him in about chest high for him. he just sat down and looked sad. lol *****.
</p>


hahahahaha
Tizzy loves water...when she can control it...she hates being sprayed, and she wont even go near you with an open bottle lol.
But when we are out by the pool we give her her own kiddie pool! lol she loves it! she runs around in a little circle and dunks her head in at the same time and tries to bite it. it's hilarious.
We were at the lake the other day at my friend's house, and she'll run out on the dock, run back and like jump off the corner into the water, but like, not into deep water...just where she knows she can touch cuz her *** just sinks, shes like pure muscle and her paddling does nothing. she freaks out when we try to BRING her in the water though. poor girl =\</p>


I think they are all a little scared at first ...we have so many that they teach each other kind of</p>


the pups see the big dogs doing it and like that...Bud is the most argessive of the bunch... you throw something and he runs down the dock and jumps out as far as he can and its a race for the stick fun to watch...I used to have one that would dive to the bottom for a rock man it something to watch her...</p>really?? the water does get in her ears?? thats awesome, tucker used to eat rocks.......lol

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 03:23 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>


CoolmanI won't argue with anythat Mh......</P>


of the people.. by the people...for the people </P>


</P>


Then we agree my friend.</P>


</P>


What Matt doesn't understand is that I've been down in my life......way down. He suggests that I live in some fairy tale world where everyone is wealthy. I've been bankrupt, I've been dumped by my wife, I've been fired. I've lived a life that most people can relate to. </P>


It never once would have occured to me that the federal government would be the answer to my problems. Just give me the same opportunity as anyone else to pick myself up and get my life straight, and I'm good with that.</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>Fortunately for me, my great looks and charisma enabled me to get wealthy, attactive women to take care of me.</FONT></P>




no u are misunderstanding me. I've never made those accusations to you pappy. Only on this specific topic of helathcare. You said you dont know anybody and eveybody by you loves their health care. What i am saying is that currently ur basing the rest of the country on a dumb poll and ur local surrounding.

I apologize if my comments came off the way u think they did, but that isn't what i was trying to say.
</P>


You've never said anything to me that needs an apology.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:24 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</p>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</p>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</p>

im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:26 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>


CoolmanI won't argue with anythat Mh......</p>


of the people.. by the people...for the people </p>


</p>


Then we agree my friend.</p>


</p>


What Matt doesn't understand is that I've been down in my life......way down. He suggests that I live in some fairy tale world where everyone is wealthy. I've been bankrupt, I've been dumped by my wife, I've been fired. I've lived a life that most people can relate to. </p>


It never once would have occured to me that the federal government would be the answer to my problems. Just give me the same opportunity as anyone else to pick myself up and get my life straight, and I'm good with that.</p>


<font color="#ff0000">Fortunately for me, my great looks and charisma enabled me to get wealthy, attactive women to take care of me.</font></p>




no u are misunderstanding me. I've never made those accusations to you pappy. Only on this specific topic of helathcare. You said you dont know anybody and eveybody by you loves their health care. What i am saying is that currently ur basing the rest of the country on a dumb poll and ur local surrounding.

I apologize if my comments came off the way u think they did, but that isn't what i was trying to say.
</p>


You've never said anything to me that needs an apology.</p>

well i wasn't speaking on ur whole life or the ease or difficulty of it. I was just responding to things u've said regarding this specific healthcare topic... either way my apology stands

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 03:28 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</p>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</p>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</p>

im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 03:31 PM
I want to be polled for something Dammit! and i want the person who asks me, to tell me before hand that ppl will be quoting my responses in political debates across the country! lol</P>


"dude....what did you get for 'name' ?"</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:32 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</p>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</p>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</p>

im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.


thats fine, i get thats how its done. Thats why using polls are ridic.

But if u guys want to declare something as definite off of them thats where i have to say it holds no water

Not for nothing, itw as done at harvard or something right...

So do you think they just sat around one of the richest communities in the state and asked people what they thought of healthcare? I mean we know nothing from that poll... it was a waste of time and should have no validity in an argument

and can someone explain to me why SOMEWHAT is a positive thing for this debate. And what does it mean. It could mean so many things to so many different people...

IF a girl says to you, I like you somewhat... do u take that as she lik you? lol cuz i dont really

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 03:34 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)

byron
09-01-2010, 03:39 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>


CoolmanI won't argue with anythat Mh......</P>


of the people.. by the people...for the people </P>


</P>


Then we agree my friend.</P>


</P>


What Matt doesn't understand is that I've been down in my life......way down. He suggests that I live in some fairy tale world where everyone is wealthy. I've been bankrupt, I've been dumped by my wife, I've been fired. I've lived a life that most people can relate to. </P>


It never once would have occured to me that the federal government would be the answer to my problems. Just give me the same opportunity as anyone else to pick myself up and get my life straight, and I'm good with that.</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>Fortunately for me, my great looks and charisma enabled me to get wealthy, attactive women to take care of me.</FONT></P>


Well I know a little about being down myself Mhnever beenbankrupt close thothe wife dumped once and took me back...lol also been fired once... Since the day I came out of rehab in 89 I have worked my *** off build my business and reputation back up to what it is today ..I always have stayed busy even through the first bank crisis This one has been a bit more trying it was slow coming on and its slow coming back but I will be fine ...</P>


WhatI want this government to do iskeep an eye on thebig biz fat cats..serve and protect and I will be good ..you know the first two jobs I had came with health insurance.. union jobs I might add..times have sure changed.. those Doctors like big boats </P>


You got pic's ?...jk</P>


Its all good MH</P>

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 03:42 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</p>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</p>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</p>

im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.


thats fine, i get thats how its done. Thats why using polls are ridic.

But if u guys want to declare something as definite off of them thats where i have to say it holds no water

Not for nothing, itw as done at harvard or something right...

So do you think they just sat around one of the richest communities in the state and asked people what they thought of healthcare? I mean we know nothing from that poll... it was a waste of time and should have no validity in an argument

and can someone explain to me why SOMEWHAT is a positive thing for this debate. And what does it mean. It could mean so many things to so many different people...

IF a girl says to you, I like you somewhat... do u take that as she lik you? lol cuz i dont really
but at the same time you can say harvard is a pretty liberal school. right? sooo meh, youre right though. i dont see the students going out off the campus to do their polling.

who said somewhat? i see somewhat as exactly as it is, kinda down the middle. feel like it can be either good OR bad. if a girl says i like you somewhat, start talking to another girl

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 03:43 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)lol theres always someone worse................did you get my monaay honaay?

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:46 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</p>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</p>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</p>

im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.


thats fine, i get thats how its done. Thats why using polls are ridic.

But if u guys want to declare something as definite off of them thats where i have to say it holds no water

Not for nothing, itw as done at harvard or something right...

So do you think they just sat around one of the richest communities in the state and asked people what they thought of healthcare? I mean we know nothing from that poll... it was a waste of time and should have no validity in an argument

and can someone explain to me why SOMEWHAT is a positive thing for this debate. And what does it mean. It could mean so many things to so many different people...

IF a girl says to you, I like you somewhat... do u take that as she lik you? lol cuz i dont really
but at the same time you can say harvard is a pretty liberal school. right? sooo meh, youre right though. i dont see the students going out off the campus to do their polling.

who said somewhat? i see somewhat as exactly as it is, kinda down the middle. feel like it can be either good OR bad. if a girl says i like you somewhat, start talking to another girl



being liberal has nothing to do with it. This current company im at right now really takes care of us and I am happy with my bennies. The previous two companies i worked for, I was getting ripped off.

Read the qoute that moorehead posted about where he got the poll from. 81 % said they liked it or somewhat liked it ... thats where hes gettin his 81% from.

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 03:46 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)lol theres always someone worse................did you get my monaay honaay?
</P>


not yet- kase and pats are in tho</P>

ny06
09-01-2010, 03:48 PM
Still with the Politics talk</P>


http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm313/KPorg/facepalm.gif</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 03:49 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)</P>


Does this mean there's an opening in the B division? If so, I want in.</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 03:51 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</P>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</P>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</P>




im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.


thats fine, i get thats how its done. Thats why using polls are ridic.

But if u guys want to declare something as definite off of them thats where i have to say it holds no water

Not for nothing, itw as done at harvard or something right...

So do you think they just sat around one of the richest communities in the state and asked people what they thought of healthcare? I mean we know nothing from that poll... it was a waste of time and should have no validity in an argument

and can someone explain to me why SOMEWHAT is a positive thing for this debate. And what does it mean. It could mean so many things to so many different people...

IF a girl says to you, I like you somewhat... do u take that as she lik you? lol cuz i dont really
but at the same time you can say harvard is a pretty liberal school. right? sooo meh, youre right though. i dont see the students going out off the campus to do their polling.

who said somewhat? i see somewhat as exactly as it is, kinda down the middle. feel like it can be either good OR bad. if a girl says i like you somewhat, start talking to another girl



being liberal has nothing to do with it. This current company im at right now really takes care of us and I am happy with my bennies. The previous two companies i worked for, I was getting ripped off.

Read the qoute that moorehead posted about where he got the poll from. 81 % said they liked it or somewhat liked it ... thats where hes gettin his 81% from.


</P>


So you're one of the happy 75%.</P>


I friggin love it!!!</P>

Kase-1
09-01-2010, 03:51 PM
...Where am I and what happened????


Damn booze kickin the crap outta me, but Ill show it who the REAL tough guy is.... The WORKIN MAN, thats who the REAL TOUGH GUY IS!!!!!





LOL

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:52 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</p>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</p>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</p>




im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.


thats fine, i get thats how its done. Thats why using polls are ridic.

But if u guys want to declare something as definite off of them thats where i have to say it holds no water

Not for nothing, itw as done at harvard or something right...

So do you think they just sat around one of the richest communities in the state and asked people what they thought of healthcare? I mean we know nothing from that poll... it was a waste of time and should have no validity in an argument

and can someone explain to me why SOMEWHAT is a positive thing for this debate. And what does it mean. It could mean so many things to so many different people...

IF a girl says to you, I like you somewhat... do u take that as she lik you? lol cuz i dont really
but at the same time you can say harvard is a pretty liberal school. right? sooo meh, youre right though. i dont see the students going out off the campus to do their polling.

who said somewhat? i see somewhat as exactly as it is, kinda down the middle. feel like it can be either good OR bad. if a girl says i like you somewhat, start talking to another girl



being liberal has nothing to do with it. This current company im at right now really takes care of us and I am happy with my bennies. The previous two companies i worked for, I was getting ripped off.

Read the qoute that moorehead posted about where he got the poll from. 81 % said they liked it or somewhat liked it ... thats where hes gettin his 81% from.


</p>


So you're one of the happy 75%.</p>


I friggin love it!!!</p>

not if i was at my last two jobs...

so pretty much i've been happy with my insurance 33.3% of my adult life

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:53 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)</p>


Does this mean there's an opening in the B division? If so, I want in.</p>

YEA!! PAPPY WANTS TO DOUBLE UP!!! LETS KEEP IT 12!! I WANT TO STAY IN TOO!!! LOL

byron
09-01-2010, 03:53 PM
if anyone cares, my bi-weekly insurance premiums have not increased at all this year.
I know you were all concerned. =]yea pizz i brought tucker and toby to a lake upstate early july and toby(pit) wouldnt go in past mid chest. lol tried pulling him a little bit but he wasnt having it. but you could kinda tell he wouldnt know how. i think its all the muscle that sinks them plus not knowing how to swim. tucker on the other hand was a *****. ****ing water dog and he didnt even want to get his paws wet. so i picked him up and put him in about chest high for him. he just sat down and looked sad. lol *****.
</P>


hahahahaha
Tizzy loves water...when she can control it...she hates being sprayed, and she wont even go near you with an open bottle lol.
But when we are out by the pool we give her her own kiddie pool! lol she loves it! she runs around in a little circle and dunks her head in at the same time and tries to bite it. it's hilarious.
We were at the lake the other day at my friend's house, and she'll run out on the dock, run back and like jump off the corner into the water, but like, not into deep water...just where she knows she can touch cuz her *** just sinks, shes like pure muscle and her paddling does nothing. she freaks out when we try to BRING her in the water though. poor girl =\</P>


I think they are all a little scared at first ...we have so many that they teach each other kind of</P>


the pups see the big dogs doing it and like that...Bud is the most argessive of the bunch... you throw something and he runs down the dock and jumps out as far as he can and its a race for the stick fun to watch...I used to have one that would dive to the bottom for a rock man it something to watch her...</P>really?? the water does get in her ears?? thats awesome, tucker used to eat rocks.......lol
That was a awesome dog Sadie..She would do it all day if you let her I'd have to stop the kids from throwing rocks ..I seen her go 8ft down...She went with me every day she would go out on the staging lay down whileI worked no fears she's been gone a long time now but still miss her ..We had to keep a eye on her ears dry them out and such...yeah you don't want him eating rocks ..lol Another thing Sad would do is get my hat for me when ever we left the house I use to put it on the coffee table I'd say wheres my hat she would go get it for me ..

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 03:53 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)</P>


Does this mean there's an opening in the B division? If so, I want in.</P>


</P>


REALLY???? yes there is sir. i would LOVE to take it but i cant since im a co-owner with pats managing while he isnt around.</P>

DavenIII
09-01-2010, 03:54 PM
I get the idea that MMB thinks these polls are conducted by hand picked people in order to give the answers "republicans" want.

you know that's not the case right MMB? I mean sure "SOME" Polls are like that, but the fact is that nearly every single poll in existence right now shows that the public is overwhelmingly against This Health Care Bill, Polls not only don't by the dreaded "Fox News" ohhhh scaryyyy but also done by MSNBC, CNN Poll's done by regulated Pollsters like Rasmussen and Gallup.

there is even a website called "Real Clear Politics" that is completely objective...purely based in numbers they take the results of all these polls (ones favoring Dems and ones favoring Repubs) and groups em all together and spits out an Average...

In EVERY SINGLE CASE The American people are against this Health Care bill over all, you are simply going to have to accept the facts at some point MMB, if not now, then you'll accept it in November after the repubs take the house and the senate partially because of the huge failure that is this health care bill.

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 03:54 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 03:54 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)</P>


Does this mean there's an opening in the B division? If so, I want in.</P>




YEA!! PAPPY WANTS TO DOUBLE UP!!! LETS KEEP IT 12!! I WANT TO STAY IN TOO!!! LOL
</P>


pats and i are winning it all so ya know</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 03:55 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</P>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</P>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</P>




im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.


thats fine, i get thats how its done. Thats why using polls are ridic.

But if u guys want to declare something as definite off of them thats where i have to say it holds no water

Not for nothing, itw as done at harvard or something right...

So do you think they just sat around one of the richest communities in the state and asked people what they thought of healthcare? I mean we know nothing from that poll... it was a waste of time and should have no validity in an argument

and can someone explain to me why SOMEWHAT is a positive thing for this debate. And what does it mean. It could mean so many things to so many different people...

IF a girl says to you, I like you somewhat... do u take that as she lik you? lol cuz i dont really
but at the same time you can say harvard is a pretty liberal school. right? sooo meh, youre right though. i dont see the students going out off the campus to do their polling.

who said somewhat? i see somewhat as exactly as it is, kinda down the middle. feel like it can be either good OR bad. if a girl says i like you somewhat, start talking to another girl



being liberal has nothing to do with it. This current company im at right now really takes care of us and I am happy with my bennies. The previous two companies i worked for, I was getting ripped off.

Read the qoute that moorehead posted about where he got the poll from. 81 % said they liked it or somewhat liked it ... thats where hes gettin his 81% from.


</P>


So you're one of the happy 75%.</P>


I friggin love it!!!</P>




not if i was at my last two jobs...

so pretty much i've been happy with my insurance 33.3% of my adult life
</P>


You and I both know that you've NEVER been an adult.</P>


</P>


And beating you in 2 leagues would be awesome.</P>

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 03:55 PM
paging MOD M pleaseeeeeeeeeeee</P>

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 03:56 PM
...Where am I and what happened????


Damn booze kickin the crap outta me, but Ill show it who the REAL tough guy is.... The WORKIN MAN, thats who the REAL TOUGH GUY IS!!!!!





LOL
still hungover from last night? haha

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 03:56 PM
political convo..</P>


I am out lol</P>


</P>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</P>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </P>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</P>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</P>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</P>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</P>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</P>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</P>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</P>




im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.


thats fine, i get thats how its done. Thats why using polls are ridic.

But if u guys want to declare something as definite off of them thats where i have to say it holds no water

Not for nothing, itw as done at harvard or something right...

So do you think they just sat around one of the richest communities in the state and asked people what they thought of healthcare? I mean we know nothing from that poll... it was a waste of time and should have no validity in an argument

and can someone explain to me why SOMEWHAT is a positive thing for this debate. And what does it mean. It could mean so many things to so many different people...

IF a girl says to you, I like you somewhat... do u take that as she lik you? lol cuz i dont really
but at the same time you can say harvard is a pretty liberal school. right? sooo meh, youre right though. i dont see the students going out off the campus to do their polling.

who said somewhat? i see somewhat as exactly as it is, kinda down the middle. feel like it can be either good OR bad. if a girl says i like you somewhat, start talking to another girl



being liberal has nothing to do with it. This current company im at right now really takes care of us and I am happy with my bennies. The previous two companies i worked for, I was getting ripped off.

Read the qoute that moorehead posted about where he got the poll from. 81 % said they liked it or somewhat liked it ... thats where hes gettin his 81% from.


</P>


So you're one of the happy 75%.</P>


I friggin love it!!!</P>




not if i was at my last two jobs...

so pretty much i've been happy with my insurance 33.3% of my adult life
</P>


<FONT color=#ff1493>You and I both know that you've NEVER been an adult.</FONT></P>


</P>


And beating you in 2 leagues would be awesome.</P>


</P>


<FONT color=#ff1493>took the words right out of my mouth! lol</FONT></P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 03:57 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)</P>


Does this mean there's an opening in the B division? If so, I want in.</P>


</P>


REALLY???? yes there is sir. i would LOVE to take it but i cant since im a co-owner with pats managing while he isnt around.</P>


</P>


Morehead wants in. Gimme the OK and the check is in the mail. What would my draft positon be?</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:00 PM
I get the idea that MMB thinks these polls are conducted by hand picked people in order to give the answers "republicans" want.

you know that's not the case right MMB? I mean sure "SOME" Polls are like that, but the fact is that nearly every single poll in existence right now shows that the public is overwhelmingly against This Health Care Bill, Polls not only don't by the dreaded "Fox News" ohhhh scaryyyy but also done by MSNBC, CNN Poll's done by regulated Pollsters like Rasmussen and Gallup.

there is even a website called "Real Clear Politics" that is completely objective...purely based in numbers they take the results of all these polls (ones favoring Dems and ones favoring Repubs) and groups em all together and spits out an Average...

In EVERY SINGLE CASE The American people are against this Health Care bill over all, you are simply going to have to accept the facts at some point MMB, if not now, then you'll accept it in November after the repubs take the house and the senate partially because of the huge failure that is this health care bill.


any poll that polls .003% and tries to speak for 100.000% is fine, until people start trying to say thats the way the country is.

Apparently 1000 is high too, so its normally less than .003%

the truth of the matter is if this took place in newark it probably would of been 80% unhappy with their health insurance. If you dont take into account where this was conducted and in what kind of community then I feel for you. With a sample size that small to think that it couldn't be swayed to read a certain way.

With this specific poll, 81% are happy and somewhat happy. Please define somewhat happy and how much percent was somewhat happy. Then go and poll what somewhat happy means to these people. Happy they have something but could be getting killed by the prices could mean somewhat happy.

Parties has nothign to do with this because as i said you dont get hired by a company based on ur political affiliation, so thats just ******ed.

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 04:00 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408 (/forums/9/1832408/ShowThread.aspx#1832408)</P>


Does this mean there's an opening in the B division? If so, I want in.</P>


</P>


REALLY???? yes there is sir. i would LOVE to take it but i cant since im a co-owner with pats managing while he isnt around.</P>


</P>


Morehead wants in. Gimme the OK and the check is in the mail. What would my draft positon be?</P>


</P>


im just going to have you take his spot if thats ok so we dont have to reselect order. he was #4. please go register. your good to go sir! </P>


</P>


love you pappy. i hope pats and i get first, pappy second and mmb 12! [:)]</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:01 PM
political convo..</p>


I am out lol</p>


</p>


Every few months or so we have a "Matt agianst the world" political discussion. Its all good sport.</p>


Tell me MH you think the way of the world is fine, all is well and all ways has been...I know the answer of coarse you don't...it justseems tome the evolution of people and learning from mistakes is slowed by greatly by greed, selfishness and politics..to namea few... given the intelligencein this country alone one would think that those things wouldn't hinder progress and what is right and fair for all...I'm just saying....That's just a dream.. at least until the powers that be get their heads out of there *** and get some oxygen flowing to their brains...listen ,work together, andget itdone for the people ...lot of bull**** right there sorry....time for me to stand down </p>


I don't trust politicians. They want to get elected. They throw red meat to the voters. Until the voters themselves change their standards, that won't change.</p>


What will always be true is the desire, work ethic and innovation of the American people. Government can't create wealth, government can't create a great Health Care system. Only the American poeple can. What government CAN do is create a level playing field. Thats where they fall short. We the voters react and then overreact to every crisis. And the government falls short as a product.</p>


The success of this country doesn't depend on the policies of government, it depends on the ability of the American people. The government's job is to allow this spirit to flourish, not to be controlled and contained.</p>


The villianization of those who succeed, those who create jobs and prosperity is one of the greatest outrages in modern American politics.</p>




just promise me no more random polls, thanks
</p>


As I said Matt. EVERY poll taken on the subject has revealed the same results. Your position on that is completely without merit.</p>


You can make the argument that the other 20% should be taken care of, and I would agree with you on that. But the facts are the facts.</p>




im sorry but any random drawing of .003% trying to speak for 100.000% is ridiculous
i agree, but thats how polls are done. and like morehead said a majority of the time they do come in pretty accurate. but still.....i dont like it.


thats fine, i get thats how its done. Thats why using polls are ridic.

But if u guys want to declare something as definite off of them thats where i have to say it holds no water

Not for nothing, itw as done at harvard or something right...

So do you think they just sat around one of the richest communities in the state and asked people what they thought of healthcare? I mean we know nothing from that poll... it was a waste of time and should have no validity in an argument

and can someone explain to me why SOMEWHAT is a positive thing for this debate. And what does it mean. It could mean so many things to so many different people...

IF a girl says to you, I like you somewhat... do u take that as she lik you? lol cuz i dont really
but at the same time you can say harvard is a pretty liberal school. right? sooo meh, youre right though. i dont see the students going out off the campus to do their polling.

who said somewhat? i see somewhat as exactly as it is, kinda down the middle. feel like it can be either good OR bad. if a girl says i like you somewhat, start talking to another girl



being liberal has nothing to do with it. This current company im at right now really takes care of us and I am happy with my bennies. The previous two companies i worked for, I was getting ripped off.

Read the qoute that moorehead posted about where he got the poll from. 81 % said they liked it or somewhat liked it ... thats where hes gettin his 81% from.


</p>


So you're one of the happy 75%.</p>


I friggin love it!!!</p>




not if i was at my last two jobs...

so pretty much i've been happy with my insurance 33.3% of my adult life
</p>


You and I both know that you've NEVER been an adult.</p>


</p>


And beating you in 2 leagues would be awesome.</p>

by adult i mean, when i was old enough to purchase entry to an establishment and have tits thrown in my face

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 04:01 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
</P>


thanks matty! </P>


</P>


dezz your an idiot. lolPM me.</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 04:02 PM
I get the idea that MMB thinks these polls are conducted by hand picked people in order to give the answers "republicans" want.

you know that's not the case right MMB? I mean sure "SOME" Polls are like that, but the fact is that nearly every single poll in existence right now shows that the public is overwhelmingly against This Health Care Bill, Polls not only don't by the dreaded "Fox News" ohhhh scaryyyy but also done by MSNBC, CNN Poll's done by regulated Pollsters like Rasmussen and Gallup.

there is even a website called "Real Clear Politics" that is completely objective...purely based in numbers they take the results of all these polls (ones favoring Dems and ones favoring Repubs) and groups em all together and spits out an Average...

In EVERY SINGLE CASE The American people are against this Health Care bill over all, you are simply going to have to accept the facts at some point MMB, if not now, then you'll accept it in November after the repubs take the house and the senate partially because of the huge failure that is this health care bill.


any poll that polls .003% and tries to speak for 100.000% is fine, until people start trying to say thats the way the country is.

Apparently 1000 is high too, so its normally less than .003%

the truth of the matter is if this took place in newark it probably would of been 80% unhappy with their health insurance. If you dont take into account where this was conducted and in what kind of community then I feel for you. With a sample size that small to think that it couldn't be swayed to read a certain way.

With this specific poll, 81% are happy and somewhat happy. Please define somewhat happy and how much percent was somewhat happy. Then go and poll what somewhat happy means to these people. Happy they have something but could be getting killed by the prices could mean somewhat happy.

Parties has nothign to do with this because as i said you dont get hired by a company based on ur political affiliation, so thats just ******ed.
</P>


Let it go Matt, its time to talk about really important things like FF football and girls.</P>

Kase-1
09-01-2010, 04:02 PM
...Where am I and what happened????


Damn booze kickin the crap outta me, but Ill show it who the REAL tough guy is.... The WORKIN MAN, thats who the REAL TOUGH GUY IS!!!!!





LOL
still hungover from last night? haha
LOL, yuuuuuup. Im stayin in bed and drinkin sprite all day (or early evening) LOL

byron
09-01-2010, 04:03 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:03 PM
I get the idea that MMB thinks these polls are conducted by hand picked people in order to give the answers "republicans" want.

you know that's not the case right MMB? I mean sure "SOME" Polls are like that, but the fact is that nearly every single poll in existence right now shows that the public is overwhelmingly against This Health Care Bill, Polls not only don't by the dreaded "Fox News" ohhhh scaryyyy but also done by MSNBC, CNN Poll's done by regulated Pollsters like Rasmussen and Gallup.

there is even a website called "Real Clear Politics" that is completely objective...purely based in numbers they take the results of all these polls (ones favoring Dems and ones favoring Repubs) and groups em all together and spits out an Average...

In EVERY SINGLE CASE The American people are against this Health Care bill over all, you are simply going to have to accept the facts at some point MMB, if not now, then you'll accept it in November after the repubs take the house and the senate partially because of the huge failure that is this health care bill.


any poll that polls .003% and tries to speak for 100.000% is fine, until people start trying to say thats the way the country is.

Apparently 1000 is high too, so its normally less than .003%

the truth of the matter is if this took place in newark it probably would of been 80% unhappy with their health insurance. If you dont take into account where this was conducted and in what kind of community then I feel for you. With a sample size that small to think that it couldn't be swayed to read a certain way.

With this specific poll, 81% are happy and somewhat happy. Please define somewhat happy and how much percent was somewhat happy. Then go and poll what somewhat happy means to these people. Happy they have something but could be getting killed by the prices could mean somewhat happy.

Parties has nothign to do with this because as i said you dont get hired by a company based on ur political affiliation, so thats just ******ed.
</p>


Let it go Matt, its time to talk about really important things like FF football and girls.</p>

fantasy ain't no thang, im actually gonna put effort into this league, it ain't for fun anymorte...

pappy is goin down like a $20 hooker

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:03 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 04:04 PM
...Where am I and what happened????


Damn booze kickin the crap outta me, but Ill show it who the REAL tough guy is.... The WORKIN MAN, thats who the REAL TOUGH GUY IS!!!!!





LOL
still hungover from last night? haha
LOL, yuuuuuup. Im stayin in bed and drinkin sprite all day (or early evening) LOL
</P>


Just so you know Kase,<U> I'm</U> my favorite poster and............................................... ..OMG you're right!</P>

dezzzR
09-01-2010, 04:06 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
</p>


thanks matty! </p>


</p>


dezz your an idiot. lolPM me.</p>stfu matt

my bad amanda. well i guess you can just answer yes or no nowlol

byron
09-01-2010, 04:07 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..

DavenIII
09-01-2010, 04:07 PM
I get the idea that MMB thinks these polls are conducted by hand picked people in order to give the answers "republicans" want.

you know that's not the case right MMB? I mean sure "SOME" Polls are like that, but the fact is that nearly every single poll in existence right now shows that the public is overwhelmingly against This Health Care Bill, Polls not only don't by the dreaded "Fox News" ohhhh scaryyyy but also done by MSNBC, CNN Poll's done by regulated Pollsters like Rasmussen and Gallup.

there is even a website called "Real Clear Politics" that is completely objective...purely based in numbers they take the results of all these polls (ones favoring Dems and ones favoring Repubs) and groups em all together and spits out an Average...

In EVERY SINGLE CASE The American people are against this Health Care bill over all, you are simply going to have to accept the facts at some point MMB, if not now, then you'll accept it in November after the repubs take the house and the senate partially because of the huge failure that is this health care bill.


any poll that polls .003% and tries to speak for 100.000% is fine, until people start trying to say thats the way the country is.

Apparently 1000 is high too, so its normally less than .003%

the truth of the matter is if this took place in newark it probably would of been 80% unhappy with their health insurance. If you dont take into account where this was conducted and in what kind of community then I feel for you. With a sample size that small to think that it couldn't be swayed to read a certain way.

With this specific poll, 81% are happy and somewhat happy. Please define somewhat happy and how much percent was somewhat happy. Then go and poll what somewhat happy means to these people. Happy they have something but could be getting killed by the prices could mean somewhat happy.

Parties has nothign to do with this because as i said you dont get hired by a company based on ur political affiliation, so thats just ******ed.


Perhaps you need to read my post again MMB you seem to be missing the point, my point is even the polls you are suggesting (the ones done to show that people do like Health Care) using your example of Newark for example, EVEN THOSE ONES are showing a majority of people are against Healthcare..

did you go to the website I was talking about?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

Sure its only 51% against and 36% for there, but that take ALL polls into account, it takes your newark poll and combines it with Pappy's High Brow livin the life Poll puts em together and STILL most people are against it.

that's what you don't seem to understand MMB, it's simple a fact at this point, America is against this health care bill, we don't like it AS A COUNTRY, so whatever pockets of people you find that are for it, it doesn't matter, when we say America is against the Health Care bill it's a fact.

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 04:09 PM
my Credit Union purchased a smaller credit union in Putnam county, and they are doing a system merger today to get those members into our banking system, and it's crashed like 8 ****ing times today. And if i have to hear another person say "i cant get on internet banking!" im going to pretend i didnt even see them and look through them! lol

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 04:09 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</P>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</P>

byron
09-01-2010, 04:12 PM
my Credit Union purchased a smaller credit union in Putnam county, and they are doing a system merger today to get those members into our banking system, and it's crashed like 8 ****ing times today. And if i have to hear another person say "i cant get on internet banking!" im going to pretend i didnt even see them and look through them! lol the wall

Kase-1
09-01-2010, 04:12 PM
...Where am I and what happened????


Damn booze kickin the crap outta me, but Ill show it who the REAL tough guy is.... The WORKIN MAN, thats who the REAL TOUGH GUY IS!!!!!





LOL
still hungover from last night? haha
LOL, yuuuuuup. Im stayin in bed and drinkin sprite all day (or early evening) LOL
</p>


Just so you know Kase,<u> I'm</u> my favorite poster and............................................... ..OMG you're right!</p>LMAO, you're great Poppa Doc!!!!!!

...Itll be a shame clowning all of you guys in FF this season

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 04:12 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</P>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</P>


</P>


lol.....</P>

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 04:12 PM
dez PM</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:14 PM
I get the idea that MMB thinks these polls are conducted by hand picked people in order to give the answers "republicans" want.

you know that's not the case right MMB? I mean sure "SOME" Polls are like that, but the fact is that nearly every single poll in existence right now shows that the public is overwhelmingly against This Health Care Bill, Polls not only don't by the dreaded "Fox News" ohhhh scaryyyy but also done by MSNBC, CNN Poll's done by regulated Pollsters like Rasmussen and Gallup.

there is even a website called "Real Clear Politics" that is completely objective...purely based in numbers they take the results of all these polls (ones favoring Dems and ones favoring Repubs) and groups em all together and spits out an Average...

In EVERY SINGLE CASE The American people are against this Health Care bill over all, you are simply going to have to accept the facts at some point MMB, if not now, then you'll accept it in November after the repubs take the house and the senate partially because of the huge failure that is this health care bill.


any poll that polls .003% and tries to speak for 100.000% is fine, until people start trying to say thats the way the country is.

Apparently 1000 is high too, so its normally less than .003%

the truth of the matter is if this took place in newark it probably would of been 80% unhappy with their health insurance. If you dont take into account where this was conducted and in what kind of community then I feel for you. With a sample size that small to think that it couldn't be swayed to read a certain way.

With this specific poll, 81% are happy and somewhat happy. Please define somewhat happy and how much percent was somewhat happy. Then go and poll what somewhat happy means to these people. Happy they have something but could be getting killed by the prices could mean somewhat happy.

Parties has nothign to do with this because as i said you dont get hired by a company based on ur political affiliation, so thats just ******ed.


Perhaps you need to read my post again MMB you seem to be missing the point, my point is even the polls you are suggesting (the ones done to show that people do like Health Care) using your example of Newark for example, EVEN THOSE ONES are showing a majority of people are against Healthcare..

did you go to the website I was talking about?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

Sure its only 51% against and 36% for there, but that take ALL polls into account, it takes your newark poll and combines it with Pappy's High Brow livin the life Poll puts em together and STILL most people are against it.

that's what you don't seem to understand MMB, it's simple a fact at this point, America is against this health care bill, we don't like it AS A COUNTRY, so whatever pockets of people you find that are for it, it doesn't matter, when we say America is against the Health Care bill it's a fact.


the polls done TO show that people like healthcare, are showing they dont..


allllllrighty then


Rassmusin and Fox take up 50% of those polls.... u just fed into my point daven. I thank you

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 04:14 PM
my Credit Union purchased a smaller credit union in Putnam county, and they are doing a system merger today to get those members into our banking system, and it's crashed like 8 ****ing times today. And if i have to hear another person say "i cant get on internet banking!" im going to pretend i didnt even see them and look through them! lol the wall</P>


no no no, byron....THE WALL is who i rather work with than one of my part time coworkers lol.
Maybe you werent here for the snippet of a story the other day. I told her "i rather work with a wall than work with you...yes a wall....an inanimate object, thats correct..."</P>


lol</P>

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 04:14 PM
pap- you ok with 4 or you want a re draft selecteion?? register please.</P>


</P>


still missing money from shocknawe, shep,dez and poppasmurph.</P>


</P>


dezz and sheps are apparently in the mail, no clue whats shocks doing and poppasmurph hasnt gotten back to me. in the event someone doesnt pay we need a plan B</P>

Kase-1
09-01-2010, 04:14 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</p>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</p>


</p>


lol.....</p>Word on the street is that Mod M LOOOOOOVES the sausage

byron
09-01-2010, 04:15 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</P>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</P> not that there is anything wrong with that... long as it in moderation....what!!

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 04:15 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</P>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</P>


</P>


lol.....</P>


Word on the street is that Mod M LOOOOOOVES the sausage
</P>


wrong. sausage sammiches.</P>

Kase-1
09-01-2010, 04:15 PM
pap- you ok with 4 or you want a re draft selecteion?? register please.</p>


</p>


still missing money from shocknawe, shep,dez and poppasmurph.</p>


</p>


dezz and sheps are apparently in the mail, no clue whats shocks doing and poppasmurph hasnt gotten back to me. in the event someone doesnt pay we need a plan B</p>So how easy was it getting my money????

Hmmmmmmm??????

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:16 PM
pap- you ok with 4 or you want a re draft selecteion?? register please.</p>


</p>


still missing money from shocknawe, shep,dez and poppasmurph.</p>


</p>


dezz and sheps are apparently in the mail, no clue whats shocks doing and poppasmurph hasnt gotten back to me. in the event someone doesnt pay we need a plan B</p>
yesss

take 4 pappy.. this way i can draft before YOU this time

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 04:16 PM
pap- you ok with 4 or you want a re draft selecteion?? register please.</P>


</P>


still missing money from shocknawe, shep,dez and poppasmurph.</P>


</P>


dezz and sheps are apparently in the mail, no clue whats shocks doing and poppasmurph hasnt gotten back to me. in the event someone doesnt pay we need a plan B</P>


</P>


4 is fine and I'' register now.</P>

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 04:16 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</P>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</P>


</P>


lol.....</P>


Word on the street is that Mod M LOOOOOOVES the sausage
</P>


to each their own.....men, women, and mods alike....</P>

byron
09-01-2010, 04:18 PM
pap- you ok with 4 or you want a re draft selecteion?? register please.</P>


</P>


still missing money from shocknawe, shep,dez and poppasmurph.</P>


</P>


dezz and sheps are apparently in the mail, no clue whats shocks doing and poppasmurph hasnt gotten back to me. in the event someone doesnt pay we need a plan B</P>


i may be able to help out if needed maybe get my son to take a spot or I will just to make sure Mat gets his *** kicked</P>


</P>

Morehead State
09-01-2010, 04:18 PM
pap- you ok with 4 or you want a re draft selecteion?? register please.</P>


</P>


still missing money from shocknawe, shep,dez and poppasmurph.</P>


</P>


dezz and sheps are apparently in the mail, no clue whats shocks doing and poppasmurph hasnt gotten back to me. in the event someone doesnt pay we need a plan B</P>


</P>


4 is fine and I'' register now.</P>


</P>


OK, how do I register?</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:18 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</p>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</p>


</p>


lol.....</p>Word on the street is that Mod M LOOOOOOVES the sausage


*SLAP*

ibleedblue85
09-01-2010, 04:18 PM
pap- you ok with 4 or you want a re draft selecteion?? register please.</P>


</P>


still missing money from shocknawe, shep,dez and poppasmurph.</P>


</P>


dezz and sheps are apparently in the mail, no clue whats shocks doing and poppasmurph hasnt gotten back to me. in the event someone doesnt pay we need a plan B</P>


So how easy was it getting my money????

Hmmmmmmm??????
</P>


pretty easy actually but im not making 15 trips to western union either. but it is a good way for the <FONT color=#ff0000>C</FONT>anadians to do it lol</P>


</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>just for you bandy! [:D]</FONT></P>

Kase-1
09-01-2010, 04:18 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</p>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</p>


</p>


lol.....</p>


Word on the street is that Mod M LOOOOOOVES the sausage
</p>


wrong. sausage sammiches.</p>Like he's in a lady shake weight commercial, just gobblin from all angles, LOL

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:19 PM
edit ur post *******, dont throw her **** up here u know how many people read this thread a day
I missed something ..lol

mod m took care of it
that mod M allright..</p>


We have Mod M because the EEOC was going to fine the Giants for not have any gays as moderators.</p>


</p>


lol.....</p>


Word on the street is that Mod M LOOOOOOVES the sausage
</p>


wrong. sausage sammiches.</p>

i dunno about all of that.. .i heard u gave mod m the recepi to ur tuna burgers

JPizzack
09-01-2010, 04:19 PM
FFS....jeez..B-League is a nightmare...forget that crap next year, there will always be someone who might not want to play i would guess...

MattMeyerBud
09-01-2010, 04:20 PM
pap- you ok with 4 or you want a re draft selecteion?? register please.</p>


</p>


still missing money from shocknawe, shep,dez and poppasmurph.</p>


</p>


dezz and sheps are apparently in the mail, no clue whats shocks doing and poppasmurph hasnt gotten back to me. in the event someone doesnt pay we need a plan B</p>


i may be able to help out if needed maybe get my son to take a spot or I will just to make sure Mat gets his *** kicked</p>


</p>

you bring in the boy big B

i'll be serving *** kicking to all generations of the Norton family