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ibleedblue85
09-24-2010, 04:18 PM
<FONT size=5>MOSS,SHIANCOAND MENDENHALL for SJAX, NICKS, OLSENAND HENNE</FONT></P>


</P>


"dooo it"
http://cdn0.mattters.com/photos/photos/2878788/196217268_1703431390_amc-mp-starsky-hutch-benowen.jpg
</P>


i was busting balls. i never talked to bandy about sucha trade. it would be a good one though. haha</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:19 PM
<font size="5">EDIT: I LOVE YOU MMB </font></p>


<font size="5"></font></p>


<font size="5">lmao. gotcha! happy firday!</font></p>


</p>

i was about to say, i was gonna have to reevaluate canadian schooling if he took that

dezzzR
09-24-2010, 04:26 PM
Speaking of our o-line.</p>


Look at what the o-tackles have to deal with in our schedule</p>


J. Peppers</p>


Mario Williams</p>


D.Ware</p>


Trent Cole</p>


Jared Allen</p>


Clay Matthews</p>


Brian Orakpo</p>

the best, which is why its imperative about our TEs..

we gotta find someone at TE, wheres Bruce Matthews when u need him. Somebody call Kyle Brady


*Cough Cough* <font size="1">Shockey<font size="3">*Cough Cough*</font></font>


na, no injury prone douce bags whose talents decrease every year since his rookie year


Talent didn't decrease, his role changed, he changed from arguably the best pass receiving TE in Giants history is first couple years, to one of the better Pass/Run Block TE's I've ever seen...

Receiving numbers went down, but he was a beast in the blocking game by the time he left...
ya'll can still hate on him as much as you want but more and more every year it looks like the mistake I said it was when we dealt him.
k. let me ask you what i ask all shockey lovers. its a cold winter night in 07 and shockey never breaks his leg, but we still lost and mikke desmond still went home pissed off. do we still win the sb????

look at all of elis numbers magically rise, dramatically. and that is an understatement. and boss has fit in perfectly. hell he was ****ing awesome that whole playoff run as well, as a rook.

now if youre talking draft wise, well thats the front offices own blunder if you can even call it that cause we dont know what we have yet. do they look good? mehhh bbut i think sintim will keep improving.

dezzzR
09-24-2010, 04:27 PM
<font size="5">MOSS,SHIANCOAND MENDENHALL for SJAX, NICKS, OLSENAND HENNE</font></p>


</p>


"dooo it"
http://cdn0.mattters.com/photos/photos/2878788/196217268_1703431390_amc-mp-starsky-hutch-benowen.jpg
</p>


i was busting balls. i never talked to bandy about sucha trade. it would be a good one though. haha</p>lol for you

bigblue4417
09-24-2010, 04:27 PM
Look at Morehead snagging Buckhalter. lol

He is on top of his game.

bigblue4417
09-24-2010, 04:31 PM
I look at it like this.

Cutler is ehhhh
DeAngelo is ehhhh

Mendy is awesome
TE's are pretty much an even swap

The trade is perfectly fair. Just if Bandy wants to pay that much for Cutler

dezzzR
09-24-2010, 04:31 PM
pizz. deftones cd. status?

patsrule666
09-24-2010, 04:32 PM
Amazing how the prospect of winning a little money can change people.</P>


You guys should kick back and take a look at yourselves. Its actually quite funny...</P>


Carry on.</P>

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 04:32 PM
<FONT size=5>EDIT: I LOVE YOU MMB </FONT></P>


<FONT size=5></FONT></P>


<FONT size=5>lmao. gotcha! happy firday!</FONT></P>


</P>




i was about to say, i was gonna have to reevaluate canadian schooling if he took that
</P>


You'll be changing your lineup whether or not the trade goes through.</P>

patsrule666
09-24-2010, 04:33 PM
OH, and BTW.</P>


Pizzz- Tell your friend him and his family have my deepest sympathies.</P>


My thoughts and prayers are with them.</P>

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 04:35 PM
I look at it like this.

Cutler is ehhhh
DeAngelo is ehhhh

Mendy is awesome
TE's are pretty much an even swap

The trade is perfectly fair. Just if Bandy wants to pay that much for Cutler
</P>


So its Cutler and Deangelo and Gonzo for Mendenhall and Shancoe.</P>


I have to tell you, thats not a good trade. Gonzo and Deangelo stink.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:40 PM
Look at Morehead snagging Buckhalter. lol

He is on top of his game.


not when u got the steal of the draft on ur bench

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:41 PM
I look at it like this.

Cutler is ehhhh
DeAngelo is ehhhh

Mendy is awesome
TE's are pretty much an even swap

The trade is perfectly fair. Just if Bandy wants to pay that much for Cutler


top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:42 PM
Amazing how the prospect of winning a little money can change people.</p>


You guys should kick back and take a look at yourselves. Its actually quite funny...</p>


Carry on.</p>

lol its all for the love of the game

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:42 PM
I look at it like this.

Cutler is ehhhh
DeAngelo is ehhhh

Mendy is awesome
TE's are pretty much an even swap

The trade is perfectly fair. Just if Bandy wants to pay that much for Cutler
</p>


So its Cutler and Deangelo and Gonzo for Mendenhall and Shancoe.</p>


I have to tell you, thats not a good trade. Gonzo and Deangelo stink.</p>

ur such a bitter old mustached man

DavenIII
09-24-2010, 04:44 PM
k. let me ask you what i ask all shockey lovers. its a cold winter night in 07 and shockey never breaks his leg, but we still lost and mikke desmond still went home pissed off. do we still win the sb????

No doubt about it, Eli's numbers rose because he's Clutch and it was the Playoffs, and maybe because we got healthy going into the playoffs (a number of players returned from injury the week Shockey went down)

Correlation does NOT equal Causality....

just because Shockey happened to get injured and elis numbers happened to go up around the same time does not at all mean the two variables are connected in anyway...there are literally millions upon millions of variables that effect every football game, to assume that Eli got better all the sudden because our best TE got Injured is a silly notion, Eli even said that himself.

bigblue4417
09-24-2010, 04:45 PM
I look at it like this.

Cutler is ehhhh
DeAngelo is ehhhh

Mendy is awesome
TE's are pretty much an even swap

The trade is perfectly fair. Just if Bandy wants to pay that much for Cutler
</p>


So its Cutler and Deangelo and Gonzo for Mendenhall and Shancoe.</p>


I have to tell you, thats not a good trade. Gonzo and Deangelo stink.</p>

ur such a bitter old mustached man

Morehead probably looks like your avatar right now.

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 04:45 PM
Look at Morehead snagging Buckhalter. lol

He is on top of his game.


not when u got the steal of the draft on ur bench
</P>


My guys gotta earn their way onto the starting lineup. No way I'm gunna replace LT at this point.</P>


I'm looking for 120 total yards and at least a TD from him.</P>


It was just a solid risk free move in case the hammy keeps acting up on Knowshon.</P>

DavenIII
09-24-2010, 04:45 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:47 PM
k. let me ask you what i ask all shockey lovers. its a cold winter night in 07 and shockey never breaks his leg, but we still lost and mikke desmond still went home pissed off. do we still win the sb????

No doubt about it, Eli's numbers rose because he's Clutch and it was the Playoffs, and maybe because we got healthy going into the playoffs (a number of players returned from injury the week Shockey went down)

Correlation does NOT equal Causality....

just because Shockey happened to get injured and elis numbers happened to go up around the same time does not at all mean the two variables are connected in anyway...there are literally millions upon millions of variables that effect every football game, to assume that Eli got better all the sudden because our best TE got Injured is a silly notion, Eli even said that himself.


bottom line, eli was better off without shockey

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 04:47 PM
I look at it like this.

Cutler is ehhhh
DeAngelo is ehhhh

Mendy is awesome
TE's are pretty much an even swap

The trade is perfectly fair. Just if Bandy wants to pay that much for Cutler
</P>


So its Cutler and Deangelo and Gonzo for Mendenhall and Shancoe.</P>


I have to tell you, thats not a good trade. Gonzo and Deangelo stink.</P>




ur such a bitter old mustached man
</P>


In all seriousness, Mendenhall will end up a top 6 or 7 RB by seasons end. Especially when Ben comes back. DeAngelo will probably lose his job to Stewart. Plus having the rook at QB will hurt them both.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:49 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.


My bet - $100

Cutler finishes top 5 in our league of all fantasy QBs barring injury

or

Cutler's average fantasy points per game will be top 5 in the league

im not gettin teabagged on an injury technicality..

im sure u'll back down

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:49 PM
I look at it like this.

Cutler is ehhhh
DeAngelo is ehhhh

Mendy is awesome
TE's are pretty much an even swap

The trade is perfectly fair. Just if Bandy wants to pay that much for Cutler
</p>


So its Cutler and Deangelo and Gonzo for Mendenhall and Shancoe.</p>


I have to tell you, thats not a good trade. Gonzo and Deangelo stink.</p>




ur such a bitter old mustached man
</p>


In all seriousness, Mendenhall will end up a top 6 or 7 RB by seasons end. Especially when Ben comes back. DeAngelo will probably lose his job to Stewart. Plus having the rook at QB will hurt them both.</p>

Mendy is def better than DWill, but no way Stewart replaces him thats just crazy talk

either way, the difference between startin Cutler and Hass will make up for the difference, if any, for the othe rplayers in the trade

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 04:50 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.
</P>


Maybe not top 5, but close.</P>


Peyton</P>


Rodgers</P>


Brady</P>


Brees</P>


Shaub, Cutler, Rivers will fight for 5th. Martz will make Cutler much better.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:51 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.
</p>


Maybe not top 5, but close.</p>


Peyton</p>


Rodgers</p>


Brady</p>


Brees</p>


Shaub, Cutler, Rivers will fight for 5th. Martz will make Cutler much better.</p>

top 5, my money is where my mouth is


and i should even be gettin odds on this...

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 04:56 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.
</P>


Maybe not top 5, but close.</P>


Peyton</P>


Rodgers</P>


Brady</P>


Brees</P>


Shaub, Cutler, Rivers will fight for 5th. Martz will make Cutler much better.</P>




top 5, my money is where my mouth is


and i should even be gettin odds on this...

</P>


Matt....Mike Williams against the Steelers? Anything can happen but thats a long shot.</P>


Tell you what, I'll give you Buckhalter for Deangelo. HaHa!!!!!</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 04:57 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.
</p>


Maybe not top 5, but close.</p>


Peyton</p>


Rodgers</p>


Brady</p>


Brees</p>


Shaub, Cutler, Rivers will fight for 5th. Martz will make Cutler much better.</p>




top 5, my money is where my mouth is


and i should even be gettin odds on this...

</p>


Matt....Mike Williams against the Steelers? Anything can happen but thats a long shot.</p>


Tell you what, I'll give you Buckhalter for Deangelo. HaHa!!!!!</p>

moorehead, im not even kidding. Mike Williams is a ****in monster, watch

dezzzR
09-24-2010, 05:00 PM
k. let me ask you what i ask all shockey lovers. its a cold winter night in 07 and shockey never breaks his leg, but we still lost and mikke desmond still went home pissed off. do we still win the sb????

No doubt about it, Eli's numbers rose because he's Clutch and it was the Playoffs, and maybe because we got healthy going into the playoffs (a number of players returned from injury the week Shockey went down)

Correlation does NOT equal Causality....

just because Shockey happened to get injured and elis numbers happened to go up around the same time does not at all mean the two variables are connected in anyway...there are literally millions upon millions of variables that effect every football game, to assume that Eli got better all the sudden because our best TE got Injured is a silly notion, Eli even said that himself.
of course eli would say that. if he doesnt say that he wouldnt be only throwing shockey under the bus but also himself, no? cause then it sounds like he couldnt control shockey and makes him look weak minded. i think its a very like notion. its like getting rid of that ******* in your group of friends, what happens? everyone starts having a better time cause nobodies worrying about stupid ****

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 05:01 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.
</P>


Maybe not top 5, but close.</P>


Peyton</P>


Rodgers</P>


Brady</P>


Brees</P>


Shaub, Cutler, Rivers will fight for 5th. Martz will make Cutler much better.</P>




top 5, my money is where my mouth is


and i should even be gettin odds on this...

</P>


Matt....Mike Williams against the Steelers? Anything can happen but thats a long shot.</P>


Tell you what, I'll give you Buckhalter for Deangelo. HaHa!!!!!</P>




moorehead, im not even kidding. Mike Williams is a ****in monster, watch
</P>


Maybe so. But not against the Steelers.</P>

DavenIII
09-24-2010, 05:03 PM
bottom line, eli was better off without shockey


No, he wasn't better off without shockey, that was the point of my post.

MattMeyerBud
09-24-2010, 05:04 PM
bottom line, eli was better off without shockey


No, he wasn't better off without shockey, that was the point of my post.



his total comfort level (which was visable) and stats went up when shockey went down. He always threw Eli under the bus.

**** shockey, hes a nobody in NO now IM OUT PEACE

DavenIII
09-24-2010, 05:06 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.


My bet - $100

Cutler finishes top 5 in our league of all fantasy QBs barring injury

or

Cutler's average fantasy points per game will be top 5 in the league

im not gettin teabagged on an injury technicality..

im sure u'll back down


Simple Bet, 100$ Cutler ends up in the top 5 for QB's for Fantasy Points in our League by the end of the year.

Normal Injury Clause I always use applies, if he misses more then 1 week, you can cancel the bet and it's dead.

I'm down for that...there is no way Cutler will be top 5 in Fantasy Points...not even for just QB's.

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 05:06 PM
bottom line, eli was better off without shockey


No, he wasn't better off without shockey, that was the point of my post.

</P>


Gotta agree with Scrappy on this. To suggest that Eli was better off without Shockey is to say that Eli is emotionally weak, and actually couldn't handle Shockey's behavior.</P>

DavenIII
09-24-2010, 05:07 PM
Leaving work my Roomate's driving me since I have Car troubles gotta go, send the PM MAtt I'll agree to it when I get back on a PC...later Thee Thread.

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 05:08 PM
top 5 fantasy QB guaranteed... i'll be taking wagers if anyone wants to sack up


DWill is gonna get his numbers ur crazy


Now that's some of the easiest money I've ever seen, 50 on that one MMB? no way Cutler is top 5 QB...no way in hell.


My bet - $100

Cutler finishes top 5 in our league of all fantasy QBs barring injury

or

Cutler's average fantasy points per game will be top 5 in the league

im not gettin teabagged on an injury technicality..

im sure u'll back down


Simple Bet, 100$ Cutler ends up in the top 5 for QB's for Fantasy Points in our League by the end of the year.

Normal Injury Clause I always use applies, if he misses more then 1 week, you can cancel the bet and it's dead.

I'm down for that...there is no way Cutler will be top 5 in Fantasy Points...not even for just QB's.
</P>


In order to be fair, you have to put an injury clause on all the QB's who might also be in the top 5. If Cutler makes it only because Rivers and Schaub missed games would be unfair to my buddy, Daven.</P>

Kase-1
09-24-2010, 05:34 PM
Gahd DAMN, all you people do in here is talk fantasy football..... I say we just create a separate thread like THEE Fantasy FB Thread or some osi like that

....F' it I did, you guys are drivin me NUTS, LOL

bigblue4417
09-24-2010, 05:37 PM
F' it I did, you guys are drivin me NUTS, LOL

If you had a team maybe it would interest you to [;)]

Kase-1
09-24-2010, 05:39 PM
F' it I did, you guys are drivin me NUTS, LOL

If you had a team maybe it would interest you to [;)]
See my team is just fakin it for yall....... Just wait til we decide to turn it on!!!!!


SUPER SLEEPERS!!!!!

bandwgn86
09-24-2010, 05:55 PM
had to turn it down MMB, i don't think p/u Cutler is worth losing VS and Mendy.. sorry

byron
09-24-2010, 06:41 PM
had to turn it down MMB, i don't think p/u Cutler is worth losing VS and Mendy.. sorry lol where the hell you been?!!

Morehead State
09-24-2010, 06:58 PM
Gahd DAMN, all you people do in here is talk fantasy football..... I say we just create a separate thread like THEE Fantasy FB Thread or some osi like that

....F' it I did, <FONT size=4>you guys are drivin me NUTS, LOL
</FONT></P>


Kase....You know I love ya, but that really isn't a long drive.</P>


Maybe just down the street.</P>

JPizzack
09-24-2010, 07:56 PM
Gahd DAMN, all you people do in here is talk fantasy football..... I say we just create a separate thread like THEE Fantasy FB Thread or some osi like that

....F' it I did, <font size="4">you guys are drivin me NUTS, LOL
</font></p>


Kase....You know I love ya, but that really isn't a long drive.</p>


Maybe just down the street.</p>

lol
anywhere Morehead hangs out is pretty ****in crazy, lets be honest!

bigblue4417
09-24-2010, 08:45 PM
F' it I did, you guys are drivin me NUTS, LOL

If you had a team maybe it would interest you to [;)]
See my team is just fakin it for yall....... Just wait til we decide to turn it on!!!!!


<font color="#0000ff">SUPER SLEEPERS!!!!!</font>

Yeah, like I was saying. Except that's called hibernation. lol

ny06
09-24-2010, 09:35 PM
<FONT size=5>MOSS,SHIANCOAND MENDENHALL for SJAX, NICKS, OLSENAND HENNE</FONT></P>


</P>


"dooo it"
http://cdn0.mattters.com/photos/photos/2878788/196217268_1703431390_amc-mp-starsky-hutch-benowen.jpg
</P>


LOL</P>


Funny movie</P>

JPizzack
09-25-2010, 12:40 PM
nobody around today? </P>


what.a.****ing.night. &gt;.&lt;</P>

dezzzR
09-25-2010, 12:50 PM
nobody around today? </p>


what.a.****ing.night. &gt;.&lt;</p>were you the bull?

dezzzR
09-25-2010, 12:50 PM
and whats &gt;.&lt;

JPizzack
09-25-2010, 01:10 PM
nobody around today? </P>


what.a.****ing.night. &gt;.&lt;</P>


were you the bull?
</P>


maybe...lol</P>


and &gt;.&lt; are squinting eyes..like... "d'oh!!"</P>

dezzzR
09-25-2010, 01:15 PM
nobody around today? </p>


what.a.****ing.night. &gt;.&lt;</p>


were you the bull?
</p>


maybe...lol</p>


and &gt;.&lt; are squinting eyes..like... "d'oh!!"</p>ohhh haha. you working today? slowest day of my liiiife

JPizzack
09-25-2010, 01:25 PM
nobody around today? </P>


what.a.****ing.night. &gt;.&lt;</P>


were you the bull?
</P>


maybe...lol</P>


and &gt;.&lt; are squinting eyes..like... "d'oh!!"</P>


ohhh haha. you working today? slowest day of my liiiife
</P>


yea. here till 430...</P>

dezzzR
09-25-2010, 02:05 PM
you see always sunny this week?

JPizzack
09-25-2010, 02:12 PM
you see always sunny this week?
</P>


nah actually i have only seen the first 3 seasons, the blonde is going to give me the others soon so i can catch up.</P>

dezzzR
09-25-2010, 02:31 PM
you see always sunny this week?
</p>


nah actually i have only seen the first 3 seasons, the blonde is going to give me the others soon so i can catch up.</p>lol the gang buys a gun is one of the best episodes.

its not like if you didnt see last weeks you wont know whats going on.

JPizzack
09-25-2010, 03:56 PM
(417): Let's review the facts-we're bored, we have a ton of beer, and we live 5 minutes from the zoo. This equation is easily solvable

ny06
09-26-2010, 05:36 PM
What do you guys think of the game?</P>


I am concerned...</P>

Morehead State
09-26-2010, 05:56 PM
What do you guys think of the game?</P>


I am concerned...</P>


</P>


I can see this season slipping away very quickly.</P>


The turnovers are a disgrace. The personal fouls are a disgrace. the coaching is a disgrace.</P>


Eli chucking it left handed into the endzone is a disgrace.</P>


</P>


What word am I thinking of to describe this season so far?</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT size=4>Disgraceful!!!!</FONT></P>

Kase-1
09-26-2010, 06:35 PM
What do you guys think of the game?</p>


I am concerned...</p>I think we're ALL 'concerned'.... SOMETHING has to change, cause this is unacceptable

byron
09-26-2010, 06:52 PM
What do you guys think of the game?</P>


I am concerned...</P>


</P>


I can see this season slipping away very quickly.</P>


The turnovers are a disgrace. The personal fouls are a disgrace. the coaching is a disgrace.</P>


Eli chucking it left handed into the endzone is a disgrace.</P>


</P>


What word am I thinking of to describe this season so far?</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT size=4>Disgraceful!!!!</FONT></P> and very<FONT size=6>Disappointing!!....</FONT>

Morehead State
09-26-2010, 07:50 PM
Not to mention</P>


Discouraging</P>


Disheartening</P>


Dismembering</P>


Disasterous</P>


and of course....</P>


Disemboweling.</P>

byron
09-26-2010, 08:25 PM
Disgusting !!

bigblue4417
09-26-2010, 09:29 PM
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/036/026/104452153_crop_340x234.jpg?1285521212

byron
09-26-2010, 10:45 PM
I keep hoping for a game that says to me everything going to be all right the teams on its way back..I guess if you take away the dumb mistakes we didn't play all that bad at least compared to last week...It seems like its something newevery week with this team.. alot of disfuncion or something..man I just want it to be over with...win withhonor and loose with pride... enought of this bull****.....I'msorry guys but this **** is killing me....man

Morehead State
09-26-2010, 11:34 PM
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/036/026/104452153_crop_340x234.jpg?1285521212</P>


Only because Kendrick Perkins got hurt. your championship is tainted.</P>

lawl
09-27-2010, 12:48 AM
"We must win the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. We must run the ball, and we must be able to defend the run. The year off that I have experienced allowed me to make many observations, one of which is more games are lost in this league than are won. We must eliminate turnovers. You are not going to beat anybody with a minus-16 (turnover ratio.) That stat has to radically change. We must eliminate costly penalties. You can't shoot yourself in the foot and expect to win the one hundred meter dash. Special teams and winning the battle of field position must become our catalyst for victory and not our Achilles heel. "</P>


-Tom Coughlin 101</P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 03:16 AM
Only because Kendrick Perkins got hurt. your championship is tainted.
We didn't have Bynum 3 years ago so right back at ya buddy.

You were also killing us the entire game 7. Your boys got tired towards the end of the 3rd....








Come on Red Sox [:(] can we get a moral victory at least?

JPizzack
09-27-2010, 08:33 AM
I was at the funeral home for 9 hours yesterday, so I only saw a portion of the first quarter of the game.

I do know however, that I missed nothing....

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 09:21 AM
I'm concerned that we might not even have a winning season this year.

has Coughlin lost the team?

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 09:52 AM
I'm concerned that we might not even have a winning season this year.

has Coughlin lost the team?
</P>


I think he lost the team last year. This is an extension of what we saw with the last two games last year. </P>


I really don't know if this coach is able to properly motivate this team to rebound. Its far too adversarial with this coach.</P>

JPizzack
09-27-2010, 09:55 AM
I'm concerned that we might not even have a winning season this year.

has Coughlin lost the team?
</P>


I think he lost the team last year. This is an extension of what we saw with the last two games last year. </P>


I really don't know if this coach is able to properly motivate this team to rebound. Its far too adversarial with this coach.</P>


</P>


agreed. looks like TC's downside has finally caught up with his upside.
Sad really....but whatever has to be done, has to be done soon.</P>

ny06
09-27-2010, 10:03 AM
I'm concerned that we might not even have a winning season this year.

has Coughlin lost the team?
</P>


I think he lost the team last year. This is an extension of what we saw with the last two games last year. </P>


I really don't know if this coach is able to properly motivate this team to rebound. Its far too adversarial with this coach.</P>


</P>


agreed. looks like TC's downside has finally caught up with his upside.
Sad really....but whatever has to be done, has to be done soon.</P>


</P>


Nothing will be done. The Giants will not fire Tom C during the season, and can we honestly say that the players can deal with adveristy? </P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 10:04 AM
I think Coaches need to change from year to year, if they stay with one strict mantra the teams vets stop listening, stop caring, TC doesn't strike me as the type willing to change....

I really wish we kept Spags...payed him off as the "next inline" type thing, but that's the past, what do you guys think about Cowher?

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 10:05 AM
I'm concerned that we might not even have a winning season this year.

has Coughlin lost the team?
</P>


I think he lost the team last year. This is an extension of what we saw with the last two games last year. </P>


I really don't know if this coach is able to properly motivate this team to rebound. Its far too adversarial with this coach.</P>


</P>


agreed. looks like TC's downside has finally caught up with his upside.
Sad really....but whatever has to be done, has to be done soon.</P>


</P>


It won't be. Its not the Mara's style.</P>


Matt and I were calling for TC to either retire or be fired at the end of last season. This team quit on this coach, and he continued to make excuses for them.</P>


He has lost this team. Nothing has changed in the off season.</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 10:05 AM
BTW ya'll see my boy Moeaki's catch...dudes a stud I'm telling ya, he's 5th in TE Fantasy Points....

JPizzack
09-27-2010, 10:10 AM
yea. I doubt anything will be done yet either. firing a coach midseason is a double edged sword. cuz its hard for teams to rally around a new coach so quick, and it's also just as debilitating as playing under a coach nobody likes either.</P>

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 10:13 AM
BTW ya'll see my boy Moeaki's catch...dudes a stud I'm telling ya, he's 5th in TE Fantasy Points....


</P>


No one can even pronounce his name. But yes....it was a nice catch.</P>

JPizzack
09-27-2010, 10:24 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 10:27 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.</P>


Look at the bright side Pizz, you weren't that good with plenty of sleep.</P>

JPizzack
09-27-2010, 10:31 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.</P>


Look at the bright side Pizz, you weren't that good with plenty of sleep.</P>


</P>


lol good enough to carry a conversation without falling asleep. good enough to load the bases and walk in a walkoff...wait...nevermind. </P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 10:32 AM
BTW I believe I have 4/5 start worth RB's so 1 or 2 of them (any ones) are on the block for a good WR.

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 10:37 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.</P>


Look at the bright side Pizz, you weren't that good with plenty of sleep.</P>


</P>


lol good enough to carry a conversation without falling asleep. good enough to load the bases and walk in a walkoff...wait...nevermind. </P>


</P>


At least my team didn't mail it in. They kept on fighting to the end.</P>

JPizzack
09-27-2010, 10:40 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.</P>


Look at the bright side Pizz, you weren't that good with plenty of sleep.</P>


</P>


lol good enough to carry a conversation without falling asleep. good enough to load the bases and walk in a walkoff...wait...nevermind. </P>


</P>


At least my team didn't mail it in. They kept on fighting to the end.</P>


</P>


no arguments from me. the Yanks been layin down like they forgot how to swing a bat recently. so we needed a win to kick it back into gear. i'll take whatever we can get at this point in the season.</P>

JPizzack
09-27-2010, 10:42 AM
BTW I believe I have 4/5 start worth RB's so 1 or 2 of them (any ones) are on the block for a good WR.
</P>


my whole team is basically on the block for a RB. so I'll listen at least if you throw soemthing out there. my WRs are risky business, but have more upside than alot of studs, so high risk high reward type deals...just like youre RBs =P</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 10:56 AM
BTW I believe I have 4/5 start worth RB's so 1 or 2 of them (any ones) are on the block for a good WR.
</p>


my whole team is basically on the block for a RB. so I'll listen at least if you throw soemthing out there. my WRs are risky business, but have more upside than alot of studs, so high risk high reward type deals...just like youre RBs =P</p>

Team name?

Nm you are Cute is what we aim for.

you don't have a receiver I'm interested in really, but I am interested in Brees.

ShockeyShow
09-27-2010, 11:03 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.</P>


Look at the bright side Pizz, you weren't that good with plenty of sleep.</P>


</P>


lol good enough to carry a conversation without falling asleep. good enough to load the bases and walk in a walkoff...wait...nevermind. </P>


</P>


At least my team didn't mail it in.* They kept on fighting to the end.</P>


</P>


no arguments from me. the Yanks been layin down like they forgot how to swing a bat recently. so we needed a win to kick it back into gear. i'll take whatever we can get at this point in the season.</P>

Part of me is actually happy that we have to play a tough schedule to finish the season. At least we won't be complacent going into OCT

JPizzack
09-27-2010, 11:17 AM
BTW I believe I have 4/5 start worth RB's so 1 or 2 of them (any ones) are on the block for a good WR.
</P>


my whole team is basically on the block for a RB. so I'll listen at least if you throw soemthing out there. my WRs are risky business, but have more upside than alot of studs, so high risk high reward type deals...just like youre RBs =P</P>




Team name?

Nm you are Cute is what we aim for.

you don't have a receiver I'm interested in really, but I am interested in Brees.
</P>


cuteiswhatweaimfor</P>


sorry bout the delay. member situ</P>

ShockeyShow
09-27-2010, 11:21 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.</P>


Look at the bright side Pizz, you weren't that good with plenty of sleep.</P>


</P>


lol good enough to carry a conversation without falling asleep. good enough to load the bases and walk in a walkoff...wait...nevermind. </P>


</P>


At least my team didn't mail it in.* They kept on fighting to the end.</P>

Are you looking to shop around any of your Whalers?

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 11:21 AM
BTW I believe I have 4/5 start worth RB's so 1 or 2 of them (any ones) are on the block for a good WR.
</p>


my whole team is basically on the block for a RB. so I'll listen at least if you throw soemthing out there. my WRs are risky business, but have more upside than alot of studs, so high risk high reward type deals...just like youre RBs =P</p>




Team name?

Nm you are Cute is what we aim for.

you don't have a receiver I'm interested in really, but I am interested in Brees.
</p>


cuteiswhatweaimfor</p>


sorry bout the delay. member situ</p>

yeah I figured it out :P looked at the names...anyhow like I said, I'm not really interested in your WR's but Mr. Brees would look solid on my team....any RB+ something extra for him sounds reasonable... Turner or Best + Palmer, or Bradford or whatever.

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 11:31 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.</P>


Look at the bright side Pizz, you weren't that good with plenty of sleep.</P>


</P>


lol good enough to carry a conversation without falling asleep. good enough to load the bases and walk in a walkoff...wait...nevermind. </P>


</P>


At least my team didn't mail it in. They kept on fighting to the end.</P>


Are you looking to shop around any of your Whalers?</P>


I need another WR and I like Mike Wallace.</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 11:36 AM
Hey Morehead is Orton up for trade, he's had a couple big weeks now, I'm buying.

want Floyd? I see you are hurting at WR....and Greene as a handcuff for LdT?

ShockeyShow
09-27-2010, 11:38 AM
I really need a day off.....

I've been operating on....idk, i think 6-7 hours of sleep since waking up friday morning. i'm a mess right now. so shot.</P>


Look at the bright side Pizz, you weren't that good with plenty of sleep.</P>


</P>


lol good enough to carry a conversation without falling asleep. good enough to load the bases and walk in a walkoff...wait...nevermind. </P>


</P>


At least my team didn't mail it in.* They kept on fighting to the end.</P>


Are you looking to shop around any of your Whalers?</P>


I need another WR and I like Mike Wallace.</P>

10-4...i'll shoot you some propositions later on

shocknaweny
09-27-2010, 11:42 AM
Hey MMB offer sent.....

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 11:46 AM
Hey Morehead is Orton up for trade, he's had a couple big weeks now, I'm buying.

want Floyd? I see you are hurting at WR....and Greene as a handcuff for LdT?
</P>


I do like Floyd. This is a definate possibility. I would love to maybe give you Knox in the same deal for one of your backs. (maybe Beanie). That way you get a WR back.</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 11:53 AM
Hey Morehead is Orton up for trade, he's had a couple big weeks now, I'm buying.

want Floyd? I see you are hurting at WR....and Greene as a handcuff for LdT?
</p>


I do like Floyd. This is a definate possibility. I would love to maybe give you Knox in the same deal for one of your backs. (maybe Beanie). That way you get a WR back.</p>

That sounds acceptable, like I said I have more backs then I need, and getting a WR back would be nice, I could Start Murphy and Bryant but having another would be nice for matchup purposes.

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 11:55 AM
Sent the Trade Mr. Morehead, going to lunch take your time, no rush, going to lunch later.

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 12:09 PM
Sent the Trade Mr. Morehead, going to lunch take your time, no rush, going to lunch later.
</P>


I like the 4 man trade Daven. Give me a few hours. I assume that I still can start Knox tonight against GB. Thats really my only concern.</P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 12:33 PM
NO! I want Floyd and will pay extra. We already tried this before. You still interested in MJD?

You like Portis?

Maybe Rivers or Vick?

Hines Ward and another WR?

Besides, you don't even like Chris. lol

byron
09-27-2010, 12:46 PM
I'm concerned that we might not even have a winning season this year.

has Coughlin lost the team?
</P>


I think he lost the team last year. This is an extension of what we saw with the last two games last year. </P>


I really don't know if this coach is able to properly motivate this team to rebound. Its far too adversarial with this coach.</P>


</P>


agreed. looks like TC's downside has finally caught up with his upside.
Sad really....but whatever has to be done, has to be done soon.</P>


</P>


It won't be. Its not the Mara's style.</P>


Matt and I were calling for TC to either retire or be fired at the end of last season. This team quit on this coach, and he continued to make excuses for them.</P>


He has lost this team. Nothing has changed in the off season.</P>


Well likeI said last week I have never really like the guyseems to me there has been issues with his style sence he came here...I wanted him out lastseason also I felt like the chances of himthings turning around were slim...whatever...wasted last year..possibaly another wasted yearsad thing is talent is being wasted at the same time...**** it...I will hope for the best</P>


I don't know.. I could use another desentRB on my team..not sure whoI got that anyone might be interested in but have a look and let me know</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 12:49 PM
Sent the Trade Mr. Morehead, going to lunch take your time, no rush, going to lunch later.
</p>


I like the 4 man trade Daven. Give me a few hours. I assume that I still can start Knox tonight against GB. Thats really my only concern.</p>

when I did my trade last week my lineup including the players I traded didn't change until the next week of play, so I think you'd be fine, but feel free to make sure..no rush it's monday and the trade won't have any effect till next weekend for me.

shocknaweny
09-27-2010, 12:52 PM
NO! I want Floyd and will pay extra. We already tried this before.<FONT size=5> You still interested in MJD?
</FONT>
You like Portis?

Maybe Rivers or Vick?

Hines Ward and another WR?

Besides, you don't even like Chris. lol


</P>


</P>


I like MJD ....What's the price ???</P>

shocknaweny
09-27-2010, 12:57 PM
I'm concerned that we might not even have a winning season this year.

has Coughlin lost the team?
</P>


I think he lost the team last year. This is an extension of what we saw with the last two games last year. </P>


I really don't know if this coach is able to properly motivate this team to rebound. Its far too adversarial with this coach.</P>


</P>


agreed. looks like TC's downside has finally caught up with his upside.
Sad really....but whatever has to be done, has to be done soon.</P>


</P>


It won't be. Its not the Mara's style.</P>


Matt and I were calling for TC to either retire or be fired at the end of last season. This team quit on this coach, and he continued to make excuses for them.</P>


He has lost this team. Nothing has changed in the off season.</P>


Well likeI said last week I have never really like the guyseems to me there has been issues with his style sence he came here...I wanted him out lastseason also I felt like the chances of himthings turning around were slim...whatever...wasted last year..possibaly another wasted yearsad thing is talent is being wasted at the same time...**** it...I will hope for the best</P>


I don't know.. I could use another desentRB on my team..not sure whoI got that anyone might be interested in but have a look and let me know</P>


</P>


</P>


I like Brandon MArshall !!!</P>


</P>


Oh and can Coughlin be FIRED already !</P>


Bill Cowher or John Gruden in 2011 !!!</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 12:58 PM
NO! I want Floyd and will pay extra. We already tried this before. You still interested in MJD?

You like Portis?

Maybe Rivers or Vick?

Hines Ward and another WR?

Besides, you don't even like Chris. lol




Whoa...pay extra? I'm interested in Vick, more so then Orton, Sorry Morehead I didn't know lando was all about Floyd I might be able to work out a better deal here.

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 01:08 PM
I like Vick better then Orton Lando so pony up and we got a deal otherwise I'm going back to Morehead....Orton is blowing up right now I need one of these guys.

shocknaweny
09-27-2010, 01:10 PM
I put up a trade Utah but cancelled it cause I wanna see what Mr. Meyer thinks of my offer first....heres a hint for u though it involed Ronnie Brown and Santana Moss !

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 01:12 PM
I like MJD ....What's the price ???
Not sure but Gates would be in there. Then I would need a RB back....You like Vernon Davis?

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 01:16 PM
Lando Trade Proposal you like or no?

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 01:18 PM
Lando Trade Proposal you like or no?
</P>


<FONT size=4>This is a friggin outrage!!!!!!</FONT></P>

ibleedblue85
09-27-2010, 01:18 PM
happy ****ing monday.

horrible.. horrible day.

where the **** is bill cowher?

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 01:19 PM
Lando Trade Proposal you like or no?

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO!!! lol

http://content9.flixster.com/question/29/35/20/2935207_std.jpg

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 01:20 PM
happy ****ing monday. horrible.. horrible day. where the **** is bill cowher?</P>


Right next to John Gruden</P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 01:20 PM
<h4 class="ForumPostTitle">4-10 The last 14 games.
</h4>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 01:20 PM
Lando Trade Proposal you like or no?
</p>


<font size="4">This is a friggin outrage!!!!!!</font></p>

Hey I like Vick better then Orton he says he's willing to overpay, if he does,'t I'll come back to you pappy...np.

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 01:23 PM
Lando Trade Proposal you like or no?
</P>


<FONT size=4>This is a friggin outrage!!!!!!</FONT></P>




Hey I like Vick better then Orton he says he's willing to overpay, if he does,'t I'll come back to you pappy...np.
</P>


I'm reproposing my trade to Bandy.</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 01:24 PM
Sent a new one.

just so you know Morehead was offering me Orton (who is right there with Vick atm) and Knox for Floyd and Wells...I'm throwing in Palmer as a backup since you'll only have 1 QB left...this deal is pretty much the same as the one Morehead was cool with...if it's no dice I'll take Orton and be happy...up to you Lando...you are the one who wants Floyd in particular I just want a QB.

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 01:25 PM
<H4 class=ForumPostTitle>4-10 The last 14 games. </H4>


</P>


Everything was set until you stuck your nose into this Lando. Trade Vick to Bandy for half his team.</P>

ibleedblue85
09-27-2010, 01:26 PM
happy ****ing monday. horrible.. horrible day. where the **** is bill cowher?</P>


Right next to John Gruden</P>

well i would appreciate him signing a long term deal with the giants.


i feel like the damn lions right now.

patsrule666
09-27-2010, 01:27 PM
Sent a new one.

just so you know Morehead was offering me Orton (who is right there with Vick atm) and Knox for Floyd and Wells...I'm throwing in Palmer as a backup since you'll only have 1 QB left...this deal is pretty much the same as the one Morehead was cool with...if it's no dice I'll take Orton and be happy...up to you Lando...you are the one who wants Floyd in particular I just want a QB.
Are you in sales Dav?? If not, you may want to consider a career change...lol.</P>


</P>


</P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 01:27 PM
Lando Trade Proposal you like or no?

I would love to get Gates.

I still love Floyd. What about Hines Ward ____________ for Floyd?

Ronnie Brown is good to.

I like Floyd over Moss though.

ibleedblue85
09-27-2010, 01:27 PM
<h4 class="ForumPostTitle">4-10 The last 14 games.
</h4>

4-9 or 3-10. but i guarantee unless some changes are made, we are LUCKY to win 6 more games.

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 01:31 PM
I am going to lunch. Be back in a couple hours. No trades will go through until after tomorrow anyway.

Morehead - I am not trying to stick my nose in. I just really like Floyd and have been trying to get him for a while from Daven. I guess if he values Orton more then that is fine with me. I am not sure he is willing to pay what I want for Vick. Please don't take this as a sign of disrespect. It's all about getting stronger and your team is looking pretty solid already. I don't think the Shonne Greene part is too fair but we will see the final proposals. I think Orton is going to flame out hard.

TOODLES

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 01:34 PM
I am going to lunch. Be back in a couple hours. No trades will go through until after tomorrow anyway.

Morehead - I am not trying to stick my nose in. I just really like Floyd and have been trying to get him for a while from Daven. I guess if he values Orton more then that is fine with me. I am not sure he is willing to pay what I want for Vick. Please don't take this as a sign of disrespect. It's all about getting stronger and your team is looking pretty solid already. I don't think the Shonne Greene part is too fair but we will see the final proposals. I think Orton is going to flame out hard.

TOODLES
</P>


The Denver offense is a lot like the Pats offense. They throw it. Even the backs get a lot of receptions. Orton will throw for 4000 + this year.</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 01:47 PM
I am going to lunch. Be back in a couple hours. No trades will go through until after tomorrow anyway.

Morehead - I am not trying to stick my nose in. I just really like Floyd and have been trying to get him for a while from Daven. I guess if he values Orton more then that is fine with me. I am not sure he is willing to pay what I want for Vick. Please don't take this as a sign of disrespect. It's all about getting stronger and your team is looking pretty solid already. I don't think the Shonne Greene part is too fair but we will see the final proposals. I think Orton is going to flame out hard.

TOODLES
</p>


The Denver offense is a lot like the Pats offense. They throw it. Even the backs get a lot of receptions. Orton will throw for 4000 + this year.</p>

Orton and Vick are very similar as far as I'm concerned, 1-10 if Orton's an 8 Vick's and 8.5 I already know Morehead was good with the trade I mentioned before Landon, so if you can't match that then I'm gonna go to him.

[PS] I've decided to just put the offer's out to both of you guys, whoever takes it first wins....

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 01:53 PM
I am going to lunch. Be back in a couple hours. No trades will go through until after tomorrow anyway.

Morehead - I am not trying to stick my nose in. I just really like Floyd and have been trying to get him for a while from Daven. I guess if he values Orton more then that is fine with me. I am not sure he is willing to pay what I want for Vick. Please don't take this as a sign of disrespect. It's all about getting stronger and your team is looking pretty solid already. I don't think the Shonne Greene part is too fair but we will see the final proposals. I think Orton is going to flame out hard.

TOODLES
</P>


The Denver offense is a lot like the Pats offense. They throw it. Even the backs get a lot of receptions. Orton will throw for 4000 + this year.</P>




Orton and Vick are very similar as far as I'm concerned, 1-10 if Orton's an 8 Vick's and 8.5 I already know Morehead was good with the trade I mentioned before Landon, so if you can't match that then I'm gonna go to him.

[PS] I've decided to just put the offer's out to both of you guys, whoever takes it first wins....
</P>


What happens if I accept it now. Do you really want an Eagle as your QB? Do you really want to root for Mike Vick for the next 12 weeks or so?</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 01:57 PM
I am going to lunch. Be back in a couple hours. No trades will go through until after tomorrow anyway.

Morehead - I am not trying to stick my nose in. I just really like Floyd and have been trying to get him for a while from Daven. I guess if he values Orton more then that is fine with me. I am not sure he is willing to pay what I want for Vick. Please don't take this as a sign of disrespect. It's all about getting stronger and your team is looking pretty solid already. I don't think the Shonne Greene part is too fair but we will see the final proposals. I think Orton is going to flame out hard.

TOODLES
</p>


The Denver offense is a lot like the Pats offense. They throw it. Even the backs get a lot of receptions. Orton will throw for 4000 + this year.</p>




Orton and Vick are very similar as far as I'm concerned, 1-10 if Orton's an 8 Vick's and 8.5 I already know Morehead was good with the trade I mentioned before Landon, so if you can't match that then I'm gonna go to him.

[PS] I've decided to just put the offer's out to both of you guys, whoever takes it first wins....
</p>


What happens if I accept it now. Do you really want an Eagle as your QB? Do you really want to root for Mike Vick for the next 12 weeks or so?</p>

If you accept it now Lando will probably be angry at me cause he just said he was going to lunch, but I'm not playing games, I need a QB...whether it's Vick or Orton makes no difference to me, I think Vick is slightly better, but not by so much that I'm gonna offer better players for him then I would for Orton....he seems like he wants me to overpay for Vick when he's the one who wants Floyd...so it probably won't work anyhow.

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 01:58 PM
afternoon folks.. pretty ****ty sports weekend for me.. its bad when my only highlight was the Jays winning..

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 02:02 PM
I am going to lunch. Be back in a couple hours. No trades will go through until after tomorrow anyway.

Morehead - I am not trying to stick my nose in. I just really like Floyd and have been trying to get him for a while from Daven. I guess if he values Orton more then that is fine with me. I am not sure he is willing to pay what I want for Vick. Please don't take this as a sign of disrespect. It's all about getting stronger and your team is looking pretty solid already. I don't think the Shonne Greene part is too fair but we will see the final proposals. I think Orton is going to flame out hard.

TOODLES
</P>


The Denver offense is a lot like the Pats offense. They throw it. Even the backs get a lot of receptions. Orton will throw for 4000 + this year.</P>




Orton and Vick are very similar as far as I'm concerned, 1-10 if Orton's an 8 Vick's and 8.5 I already know Morehead was good with the trade I mentioned before Landon, so if you can't match that then I'm gonna go to him.

[PS] I've decided to just put the offer's out to both of you guys, whoever takes it first wins....
</P>


What happens if I accept it now. Do you really want an Eagle as your QB? Do you really want to root for Mike Vick for the next 12 weeks or so?</P>




If you accept it now Lando will probably be angry at me cause he just said he was going to lunch, but I'm not playing games, I need a QB...whether it's Vick or Orton makes no difference to me, I think Vick is slightly better, but not by so much that I'm gonna offer better players for him then I would for Orton....he seems like he wants me to overpay for Vick when he's the one who wants Floyd...so it probably won't work anyhow.
</P>


Fine Daven. I'll wait.</P>


I like the trade for my team. I'm willing to accept it.</P>


</P>

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 02:03 PM
afternoon folks.. pretty ****ty sports weekend for me.. its bad when my only highlight was the Jays winesterdayning..</P>


Bandy,</P>


You have about 30 minutes to get Kyle Orton. He had almost 500 yards against Indy yesterday.</P>


Are you still interested?</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 02:08 PM
Fine Daven. I'll wait.</p>



I like the trade for my team. I'm willing to accept it.</p>


</p>

I leave it up to you Mr.Morehead, the offers are both there, you wanna snatch it up go ahead, I'm not playing games those are the offers and they will stay till one is taken.
</p>

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 02:14 PM
Fine Daven. I'll wait.</P>


I like the trade for my team. I'm willing to accept it.</P>



</P>


I leave it up to you Mr.Morehead, the offers are both there, you wanna snatch it up go ahead, I'm not playing games those are the offers and they will stay till one is taken.
</P>


</P>


I'm at a bit of a disadvantage here. I already told you that I like the deal. Lando can just come back from lunch and accept the trade.I have no idea when he is coming back. So essentially I'm the patsy here.</P>


I don't want to get burned like I did last week, but I also don't want anyone getting mad at anyone else. Not worth it.</P>


I'm trying to be up front here.</P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 02:19 PM
Fine Daven. I'll wait.</p>


I like the trade for my team. I'm willing to accept it.</p>



</p>


I leave it up to you Mr.Morehead, the offers are both there, you wanna snatch it up go ahead, I'm not playing games those are the offers and they will stay till one is taken.
</p>


</p>


I'm at a bit of a disadvantage here. I already told you that I like the deal. Lando can just come back from lunch and accept the trade.I have no idea when he is coming back. So essentially I'm the patsy here.</p>


I don't want to get burned like I did last week, but I also don't want anyone getting mad at anyone else. Not worth it.</p>


I'm trying to be up front here.</p>

Lando may get angry but he only has himself to blame, I sent him an offer, he declined it and didn't return a counter....we had our deal in place first (even though he's been asking for floyd for over a week) what I'm saying is if you accept now and Lando gets angry at me it's NP, it's really his fault anyhow :P...so I leave it up to you, you can choose to be the patsy and wait until Lando shows up, or you can accept right now and while Lando might get a little perturbed, I'm pretty sure he will understand that he had his chance and decided not to go for it.

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 02:21 PM
afternoon folks.. pretty ****ty sports weekend for me.. its bad when my only highlight was the Jays winesterdayning..</P>


Bandy,</P>


You have about 30 minutes to get Kyle Orton. He had almost 500 yards against Indy yesterday.</P>


Are you still interested?</P>somewhat.. you still want Randy though?

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 02:27 PM
afternoon folks.. pretty ****ty sports weekend for me.. its bad when my only highlight was the Jays winesterdayning..</P>


Bandy,</P>


You have about 30 minutes to get Kyle Orton. He had almost 500 yards against Indy yesterday.</P>


Are you still interested?</P>


somewhat.. you still want Randy though?</P>


If you had made the trade you would have definately beat Lando this week. I have a possible deal with Daven but he has made a similar offer to Lando. I'm trying to be up front with everyone.</P>


Doesn't sound like you want to make a deal. If you do, let me know.</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 02:39 PM
afternoon folks.. pretty ****ty sports weekend for me.. its bad when my only highlight was the Jays winesterdayning..</P>


Bandy,</P>


You have about 30 minutes to get Kyle Orton. He had almost 500 yards against Indy yesterday.</P>


Are you still interested?</P>


somewhat.. you still want Randy though?</P>


If you had made the trade you would have definately beat Lando this week. I have a possible deal with Daven but he has made a similar offer to Lando. I'm trying to be up front with everyone.</P>


Doesn't sound like you want to make a deal. If you do, let me know.</P>kinda ****ed up this weekend.. i put Driver in on thursday so my projected #'s showed a little better vs Landy (Landy doesn't work does it)was away Sunday and forgot to change it back to Jones.. i woulda won with his 15 points

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 02:41 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 02:42 PM
afternoon folks.. pretty ****ty sports weekend for me.. its bad when my only highlight was the Jays winesterdayning..</P>


Bandy,</P>


You have about 30 minutes to get Kyle Orton. He had almost 500 yards against Indy yesterday.</P>


Are you still interested?</P>


somewhat.. you still want Randy though?</P>


If you had made the trade you would have definately beat Lando this week. I have a possible deal with Daven but he has made a similar offer to Lando. I'm trying to be up front with everyone.</P>


Doesn't sound like you want to make a deal. If you do, let me know.</P>


kinda ****ed up this weekend.. i put Driver in on thursday so my projected #'s showed a little better vs Landy (Landy doesn't work does it)was away Sunday and forgot to change it back to Jones.. i woulda won with his 15 points</P>


Or you could have just had Orton and won easily. You would have had Jennings and Driver today and if you subtract Randy, you almost certainly would have won.</P>

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 02:43 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 02:46 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 02:47 PM
Sorry Lando Morehead was generous he gave you more then an Hour.

http://i.imgur.com/qpEu2.png


Nice doing business with ya Morehead.

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 02:52 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 02:54 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 02:55 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>


good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me</P>


Morehead never really gets mad at anyone.</P>


I love all of God's creatures, large and small.</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 02:57 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>


good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me</P>


Morehead never really gets mad at anyone.</P>


I love all of God's creatures, <FONT color=#0000ff>large</FONT> and small.</P>


is that directed at me? lol</P>


what was the trade, i want to be the first to reject</P>

ShockeyShow
09-27-2010, 03:03 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmer*has forgotten how to*throw a football *

why don't u hold off for a week and we can work out a deal with Big Ben or someone else I might pick up

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 03:07 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>


good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me</P>


Morehead never really gets mad at anyone.</P>


I love all of God's creatures, <FONT color=#0000ff>large</FONT> and small.</P>


is that directed at me? lol</P>


what was the trade, i want to be the first to reject</P>


</P>


I have no idea what you look like my friend. I assume you're a handsome fellow.</P>


The trade is Orton and Knox for Floyd and Beanie.</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 03:09 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football why don't u hold off for a week and we can work out a deal with Big Ben or someone else I might pick upsure.. even though Hass is going to save me starting next week. i'll consider trades with you

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 03:10 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </p>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</p>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</p>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</p>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</p>


good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me</p>


Morehead never really gets mad at anyone.</p>


I love all of God's creatures, <font color="#0000ff">large</font> and small.</p>


is that directed at me? lol</p>


what was the trade, i want to be the first to reject</p>


</p>


I have no idea what you look like my friend. I assume you're a handsome fellow.</p>


The trade is Orton and Knox for Floyd and Beanie.</p>

I have a feeling Beanie is going to be good, I was holding onto him...but with the way Hillis is playing, and with Turner/Best and Green I have enough starting RB's to let a good one go in exchange for my REAL need which is QB.

ny06
09-27-2010, 03:12 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>


good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me</P>


<FONT size=4>Morehead never really gets mad at anyone.</FONT></P>


I love all of God's creatures, large and small.</P>


</P>


that's a load of b.s [:P]</P>

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 03:14 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football why don't u hold off for a week and we can work out a deal with Big Ben or someone else I might pick up</P>


Don't take anything less than Randy. He's dying to dump him.</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 03:22 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>


good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me</P>


<FONT size=4>Morehead never really gets mad at anyone.</FONT></P>


I love all of God's creatures, large and small.</P>


</P>


that's a load of b.s [:P]</P>heh you're back

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 03:26 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>


good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me</P>


<FONT size=4>Morehead never really gets mad at anyone.</FONT></P>


I love all of God's creatures, large and small.</P>


</P>


that's a load of b.s [:P]</P>


</P>


I even love Yankee fans. (just not as much)</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 03:28 PM
where is everyone today</P>


</P>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</P>

ny06
09-27-2010, 03:30 PM
i'm interested in Orton just not overly interested in givin up Randy, esp since Palmerhas forgotten how tothrow a football </P>


You talk like it was Orton for Randy. You were also getting back Jennings for God's sake.</P>


no i talk like i don't want to give up Randy for gods sake</P>


Randy gives me bye problems on week five. I would have had to go without Brady and Randy.</P>


Moot point anyway, Orton is now on Daven's team.</P>


good stuff, now can you stop being mad at me</P>


<FONT size=4>Morehead never really gets mad at anyone.</FONT></P>


I love all of God's creatures, large and small.</P>


</P>


that's a load of b.s [:P]</P>


heh you're back</P>


Yep, better then ever =)</P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 03:34 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 03:37 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol
you movin Rivers

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 03:38 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol


Incase you haven't noticed Orton is a top 5 QB atm....

I don't need Beanie and Floyd is a loss, but QB is more important then WR....don't be jealous, I wanted Vick more but you were going to ask for too much.

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 03:41 PM
where is everyone today</p>


</p>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</p>

I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 03:46 PM
where is everyone today</P>


</P>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</P>

I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.
well i guess it doesn't have to be.. aslong as someone overpays for them i'll be happy

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 03:47 PM
where is everyone today</P>


</P>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</P>




I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.
</P>


My question exactly. I don't get that.</P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 03:49 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol


Incase you haven't noticed Orton is a top 5 QB atm....

I don't need Beanie and Floyd is a loss, but QB is more important then WR....don't be jealous, I wanted Vick more but you were going to ask for too much.

Ask too much?

You don't even know what I wanted.

I just think you helped MH more than you helped yourself.

I hope it works out for you. I wish you could have actually drafted your team. lol

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 03:52 PM
where is everyone today</p>


</p>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</p>

I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.
well i guess it doesn't have to be.. aslong as someone overpays for them i'll be happy

I mean I'm not in the market as you know, I have to many, but Charles is a real prospect.

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 03:52 PM
where is everyone today</P>


</P>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</P>




I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.
</P>


<FONT color=#000000>My question exactly.</FONT> I don't get that.</P> i would like to move both is that better for you 2

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 03:55 PM
where is everyone today</P>


</P>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</P>

I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.
well i guess it doesn't have to be.. aslong as someone overpays for them i'll be happy

I mean I'm not in the market as you know, I have to many, but Charles is a real prospect.
somethin like 150 total yard yesterday on 15 touches.. why they only let him get half the carriers Jones gets is a ?

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 03:57 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol


Incase you haven't noticed Orton is a top 5 QB atm....

I don't need Beanie and Floyd is a loss, but QB is more important then WR....don't be jealous, I wanted Vick more but you were going to ask for too much.

Ask too much?

You don't even know what I wanted.


well I know you wanted more then Floyd for Vick straight up, and based upon your reaction (guy smoking da reefer) It was likely a lot more then that, also you said "I don't know if Daven's willing to pay what I'm asking for Vick" again suggesting that it was going to be a steep asking price.

point is you were not getting anything better then what Morehead got out of me, so if you wouldn't have sold me Vick for Floyd and Wells you probably were asking too much for my tastes anyhow.

(orton = vick right now)

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 04:01 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol
you movin Rivers
I like Charles. For who?

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 04:02 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol


Incase you haven't noticed Orton is a top 5 QB atm....

I don't need Beanie and Floyd is a loss, but QB is more important then WR....don't be jealous, I wanted Vick more but you were going to ask for too much.

Ask too much?

You don't even know what I wanted.


well I know you wanted more then Floyd for Vick straight up, and based upon your reaction (guy smoking da reefer) It was likely a lot more then that, also you said "I don't know if Daven's willing to pay what I'm asking for Vick" again suggesting that it was going to be a steep asking price.

point is you were not getting anything better then what Morehead got out of me, so if you wouldn't have sold me Vick for Floyd and Wells you probably were asking too much for my tastes anyhow.

(orton = vick right now)
i'm very interested in his answer to this..

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 04:07 PM
where is everyone today</p>


</p>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</p>

I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.
well i guess it doesn't have to be.. aslong as someone overpays for them i'll be happy

I mean I'm not in the market as you know, I have to many, but Charles is a real prospect.
somethin like 150 total yard yesterday on 15 touches.. why they only let him get half the carriers Jones gets is a ?

I mean if you "really" don't like him I'm sure we can work out a trade where I have him on my roster, but I'd want it packaged with Moss.

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 04:08 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol
you movin Rivers
I like Charles. For who?
well let me have a peeksee

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 04:08 PM
Terrible trade for you Daven....I am sure Morehead could not be happier. lol


Incase you haven't noticed Orton is a top 5 QB atm....

I don't need Beanie and Floyd is a loss, but QB is more important then WR....don't be jealous, I wanted Vick more but you were going to ask for too much.

Ask too much?

You don't even know what I wanted.


well I know you wanted more then Floyd for Vick straight up, and based upon your reaction (guy smoking da reefer) It was likely a lot more then that, also you said "I don't know if Daven's willing to pay what I'm asking for Vick" again suggesting that it was going to be a steep asking price.

point is you were not getting anything better then what Morehead got out of me, so if you wouldn't have sold me Vick for Floyd and Wells you probably were asking too much for my tastes anyhow.

(orton = vick right now)

Floyd and Wells would not have been enough. Just as it plenty for Morehead. lol You neglect to realize he will never use Orton so he is completely worthless to him. I understand he has worth to you. According to Yahoo Vick is 3rd in the league in total points and unfortunately only getting better. Trades are going to start getting more scarce I think. I am very happy with my team and the BenJavarus pick up will be really nice. I just hope you didn't make MH too good.

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 04:11 PM
where is everyone today</P>


</P>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</P>

I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.
well i guess it doesn't have to be.. aslong as someone overpays for them i'll be happy

I mean I'm not in the market as you know, I have to many, but Charles is a real prospect.
somethin like 150 total yard yesterday on 15 touches.. why they only let him get half the carriers Jones gets is a ?

I mean if you "really" don't like him I'm sure we can work out a trade where I have him on my roster, but I'd want it packaged with Moss.
i'd love to see what i get in return for Charles and Moss, fire away my freind

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 04:16 PM
According to Yahoo Vick is 3rd in the league in total points and unfortunately only getting better.

And Orton is fourth, similarly only getting better, and on a team that passes even more then the eagles if you can believe it.

whether or not Morehead was ever going to use him is not my concern, I think I have a strong team, I just needed a good QB, now I have one.

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 04:19 PM
where is everyone today</p>


</p>


Charles and Jones avail..package deal only</p>

I'm not in the market for RB's but WHY for the love of god WHY must it be a package deal.
well i guess it doesn't have to be.. aslong as someone overpays for them i'll be happy

I mean I'm not in the market as you know, I have to many, but Charles is a real prospect.
somethin like 150 total yard yesterday on 15 touches.. why they only let him get half the carriers Jones gets is a ?

I mean if you "really" don't like him I'm sure we can work out a trade where I have him on my roster, but I'd want it packaged with Moss.
i'd love to see what i get in return for Charles and Moss, fire away my freind

I'm tired of figuring out trades for today send me what you think you want for em.

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 04:19 PM
According to Yahoo Vick is 3rd in the league in total points and unfortunately only getting better.

And Orton is fourth, similarly only getting better, and on a team that passes even more then the eagles if you can believe it.

whether or not Morehead was ever going to use him is not my concern, I think I have a strong team, I just needed a good QB, now I have one.

If Orton continues to do this well or even half this well then it was a great trade for you. I just think he is going to flame out. Alot of his yards yesterday came because they had to catch up.

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 04:24 PM
According to Yahoo Vick is 3rd in the league in total points and unfortunately only getting better.

And Orton is fourth, similarly only getting better, and on a team that passes even more then the eagles if you can believe it.

whether or not Morehead was ever going to use him is not my concern, I think I have a strong team, I just needed a good QB, now I have one.

If Orton continues to do this well or even half this well then it was a great trade for you. <FONT color=#0000ff>I just think he is going to flame out</FONT>. Alot of his yards yesterday came because they had to catch up.
him and Cutler, and Vick forthat matter you should trade him while you can and on the cheap maybe to someone like me [:D]

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 04:24 PM
PM Bandy

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 04:26 PM
Changing the subject, despite the horror shows of the past few weeks, despite the fact that the coaches seem to have lost the team, despite the terrible mistakes made so far this year, our team has too many weapons to tank it from here on out.</P>


I see a resurgence coming with the New York Football Giants.</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 04:28 PM
PM Bandy
nothin there Landy

ibleedblue85
09-27-2010, 04:28 PM
<FONT size=5>MALCOM FLOYD AND BEANIE WELLS </FONT></P>


<FONT size=5>FOR</FONT></P>


<FONT size=5>JOHNNY KNOX AND KYLE ORTON</FONT></P>

DavenIII
09-27-2010, 04:29 PM
Changing the subject, despite the horror shows of the past few weeks, despite the fact that the coaches seem to have lost the team, despite the terrible mistakes made so far this year, our team has too many weapons to tank it from here on out.</p>


I see a resurgence coming with the New York Football Giants.</p>

That sounds exactly like what everyone says about the cowboys every year, they always find a way to tank it, are we really that different "this year" ?

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 04:48 PM
Now Bandy?

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 04:53 PM
Now Bandy?
still nothin Landy

Morehead State
09-27-2010, 04:54 PM
Changing the subject, despite the horror shows of the past few weeks, despite the fact that the coaches seem to have lost the team, despite the terrible mistakes made so far this year, our team has too many weapons to tank it from here on out.</P>


I see a resurgence coming with the New York Football Giants.</P>




That sounds exactly like what everyone says about the cowboys every year, they always find a way to tank it, are we really that different "this year" ?
</P>


Yes we are.</P>


Keep the faith Daven.</P>


My biggest concern is the head coach.</P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 05:13 PM
Now Bandy?

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 05:14 PM
Now Bandy?
are you sure you knowhow to pm?</P>


</P>


got it, replied</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 05:22 PM
the Yahoo dudes have a sense of humor lol...</P>


Advice: Carson Palmer again looked like he spent much of the game trying to complete passes to opposing defensive backs,</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 05:41 PM
Landon, youfrustrated enough with MJD yet to move him

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 07:20 PM
Landon, youfrustrated enough with MJD yet to move him
Possibly...I am still waiting for him to break out.

bandwgn86
09-27-2010, 07:28 PM
Landon, youfrustrated enough with MJD yet to move him
Possibly...I am still waiting for him to break out.
don't hold your breath lol </P>


i'd take him off your hands.. but i'd imagine you would want a rb back right? </P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 07:51 PM
KILL DRIVER!!!

Kase-1
09-27-2010, 09:22 PM
Well good things bout last night...... Kiwi's play, we didnt hear Koetes' name being called, Dodge didnt mess up any punts (LOL), ummmm uhhh Tickets will hopefully be cheaper for THEE Game

ShockeyShow
09-27-2010, 10:07 PM
<font size="5">MALCOM FLOYD AND BEANIE WELLS </font></p>


<font size="5">FOR</font></p>


<font size="5">JOHNNY KNOX AND KYLE ORTON</font></p>

Is this official?

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 10:08 PM
<font size="5">MALCOM FLOYD AND BEANIE WELLS </font></p>


<font size="5">FOR</font></p>


<font size="5">JOHNNY KNOX AND KYLE ORTON</font></p>

Is this official?

Not yet. Why? Do you dispute said trade?

ny06
09-27-2010, 10:11 PM
Well good things bout last night...... Kiwi's play, we didnt hear Koetes' name being called, Dodge didnt mess up any punts (LOL), ummmm uhhh Tickets will hopefully be cheaper for THEE Game
</P>


Kiwi is playing great. I like how Cofield is playing too. </P>

bigblue4417
09-27-2010, 10:11 PM
KILL DRIVER!!!

ibleedblue85
09-28-2010, 12:07 AM
<FONT size=5>MALCOM FLOYD AND BEANIE WELLS </FONT></P>


<FONT size=5>FOR</FONT></P>


<FONT size=5>JOHNNY KNOX AND KYLE ORTON</FONT></P>




Is this official?

Not yet. Why? Do you dispute said trade?
</P>


its official now.</P>


</P>


and ughh was that game tonight serious? i mean it was a GREAT football game but uhhhh we really got work cut out for us. [:|]</P>

Morehead State
09-28-2010, 08:21 AM
<FONT size=5>MALCOM FLOYD AND BEANIE WELLS </FONT></P>


<FONT size=5>FOR</FONT></P>


<FONT size=5>JOHNNY KNOX AND KYLE ORTON</FONT></P>




Is this official?

Not yet. Why? Do you dispute said trade?
</P>


its official now.</P>


</P>


and ughh was that game tonight serious? i mean it was a GREAT football game but uhhhh we really got work cut out for us. [:|]</P>


</P>


Just for the record.</P>


If Bandy had taken my incredible trade offer last week, he would have beaten Lando and be at 2-1 and I would be in first place. The only winner in this fiasco is Lando.</P>


This is why its hard not to be Anti Canadian. (Of course I'm not)</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 09:05 AM
**** the giants

**** moving

**** my back

**** work


thats the type of morning im having how bout everyone else

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 09:08 AM
<font size="5">MALCOM FLOYD AND BEANIE WELLS </font></p>


<font size="5">FOR</font></p>


<font size="5">JOHNNY KNOX AND KYLE ORTON</font></p>




Is this official?

Not yet. Why? Do you dispute said trade?
</p>


its official now.</p>


</p>


and ughh was that game tonight serious? i mean it was a GREAT football game but uhhhh we really got work cut out for us. [:|]</p>


</p>


Just for the record.</p>


If Bandy had taken my incredible trade offer last week, he would have beaten Lando and be at 2-1 and I would be in first place. The only winner in this fiasco is Lando.</p>


This is why its hard not to be Anti Canadian. (Of course I'm not)</p>

u sweat out gettin broomed last night? Lol it was almost a game

yea he wouldn't of won if he made that trade with me but he def would of been closer by like 4 or 5 points

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 09:10 AM
im sure u guys went over this **** yesterday and while MANY thing bother me like penalties and such... the one thing that stands out is the Nicks interception

is that the 4th or 5th interception elis had this year where the ball literally bounces off of our receivers hands?

Its ****in gross now

DavenIII
09-28-2010, 09:11 AM
**** the giants

**** moving

**** my back

**** work


thats the type of morning im having how bout everyone else


I'm having a similar morning.

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 09:33 AM
insider news: Manningham sick as dog. Rushed to ER this morning looks thin, may of lost like 10-15 pounds

ibleedblue85
09-28-2010, 09:41 AM
insider news: Manningham sick as dog. Rushed to ER this morning looks thin, may of lost like 10-15 pounds
</P>


no bueno. </P>


</P>


our team is in shambles. i dont even know if we will beat the lions at this point. keep us posted please.</P>

ibleedblue85
09-28-2010, 09:42 AM
**** the giants

**** moving

**** my back

**** work


thats the type of morning im having how bout everyone else
</P>


i hear you. [:@]</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 09:59 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

Is it time up, or are we overreacting?

I think its just run his coarse, this team does not respond to him. Nobody is motivated

ShockeyShow
09-28-2010, 10:02 AM
insider news: Manningham sick as dog. Rushed to ER this morning looks thin, may of lost like 10-15 pounds


well I was having a pretty good morning till u told me that ****akee! He's been one of our few bright spots so far.

We will perservere people! Gotta trudge harder through the tough times to be the best we can when the good comes along!

DavenIII
09-28-2010, 10:08 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

My take on Coughlin is that we should have Cohwer instead.

Morehead State
09-28-2010, 10:10 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

Is it time up, or are we overreacting?

I think its just run his coarse, this team does not respond to him. Nobody is motivated
</P>


Should have fired him last year when the team clearly quit on him and he insisted they played hard.</P>


Now we're stuck with him until the end of the season. Lets hope a collective light goes on with these players because the coaches don't have a friggin clue.</P>

ibleedblue85
09-28-2010, 10:12 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

Is it time up, or are we overreacting?

I think its just run his coarse, this team does not respond to him. Nobody is motivated
</P>


no one is motivated and there is ZERO discipline. hes lost control and its a HUGE problem. I think his time is almost up. unless we end up with another 2007 season i dont think hell be back. My main problem is will gilbride and ive said it how many times and for how long. im soooooo over this dude. if coughlin can get control back i dont really mind him but the problem is he has no control and refuses to divorce gilbride for lord only knows what reason so unless he divorces gilbride or some MAJOR changes happen, like yesterday... i think itll be time to part ways..</P>


</P>


with that said. BILL COWHER........................</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:16 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

Is it time up, or are we overreacting?

I think its just run his coarse, this team does not respond to him. Nobody is motivated
</p>


Should have fired him last year when the team clearly quit on him and he insisted they played hard.</p>


Now we're stuck with him until the end of the season. Lets hope a collective light goes on with these players because the coaches don't have a friggin clue.</p>

yea but after a 5-0 start, u had to take into account the injury factor

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:17 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

Is it time up, or are we overreacting?

I think its just run his coarse, this team does not respond to him. Nobody is motivated
</p>


no one is motivated and there is ZERO discipline. hes lost control and its a HUGE problem. I think his time is almost up. unless we end up with another 2007 season i dont think hell be back. My main problem is will gilbride and ive said it how many times and for how long. im soooooo over this dude. if coughlin can get control back i dont really mind him but the problem is he has no control and refuses to divorce gilbride for lord only knows what reason so unless he divorces gilbride or some MAJOR changes happen, like yesterday... i think itll be time to part ways..</p>


</p>


with that said. BILL COWHER........................</p>

u can't evne get on gilbride after this past week tho. 3 turnovers 2 missed FGs..

i was moving on sunday and dind' tget to see the game only got most of it on the radio. Where did BRadshaw fumble?

WE did have almost 500 yards on offense

bigblue4417
09-28-2010, 10:17 AM
I wonder if we even win 8 games this year?

Julius is going to kill our O-Line and Briggs with Urlacher. Don't have a good feeling about this one...

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:19 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

My take on Coughlin is that we should have Cohwer instead.


ya know i do like Cower alot, but two major things that i am really unsure baout if he comes here

A) will he switch us to the 3-4, cuz im not sure i'd like that

and

B) would he make us a run heavy offense and just throw 20 times a game if lucky? Not sure id like that either

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:20 AM
I wonder if we even win 8 games this year?

Julius is going to kill our O-Line and Briggs with Urlacher. Don't have a good feeling about this one...


i actually do. I like us in the upset

bigblue4417
09-28-2010, 10:21 AM
Burnett is the 1st Yankees starter to lose 15 games since 92. lol

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:21 AM
I wonder if we even win 8 games this year?

Julius is going to kill our O-Line and Briggs with Urlacher. Don't have a good feeling about this one...


i actually do. I like us in the upset

ibleedblue85
09-28-2010, 10:22 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

Is it time up, or are we overreacting?

I think its just run his coarse, this team does not respond to him. Nobody is motivated
</P>


no one is motivated and there is ZERO discipline. hes lost control and its a HUGE problem. I think his time is almost up. unless we end up with another 2007 season i dont think hell be back. My main problem is will gilbride and ive said it how many times and for how long. im soooooo over this dude. if coughlin can get control back i dont really mind him but the problem is he has no control and refuses to divorce gilbride for lord only knows what reason so unless he divorces gilbride or some MAJOR changes happen, like yesterday... i think itll be time to part ways..</P>


</P>


with that said. BILL COWHER........................</P>




u can't evne get on gilbride after this past week tho. 3 turnovers 2 missed FGs..

i was moving on sunday and dind' tget to see the game only got most of it on the radio. Where did BRadshaw fumble?

WE did have almost 500 yards on offense
</P>


bradshaw fumbled in the redzone. eli tried to shot put the football left handed in the redzone. both resulting in turnovers then nicks batted a ball that got intercepted for the second time this year.</P>


</P>


again.... no dicipline. how are we ALLOWING these players to get all these personal fouls. they are costing us the game as it is. ****ing bench them at this point. make them sit a quarter.</P>


</P>


with the way we are playing... chicago will embarrass us. peppers might have 10 sacks if we dont get our **** togehter. the only bright side is our d-backs might have 5 picks... thats our only saving grace i think... its scary. and primetime again so the entire country can see us embarrass ourselves???.... i have faith but at this point i am not looking forward to sunday</P>

bigblue4417
09-28-2010, 10:22 AM
I wonder if we even win 8 games this year?

Julius is going to kill our O-Line and Briggs with Urlacher. Don't have a good feeling about this one...


i actually do. I like us in the upset

Well hopefully we can be motivated for a prime time game against an undefeated team.

JPizzack
09-28-2010, 10:23 AM
Burnett is the 1st Yankees starter to lose 15 games since 92. lol
</P>


except anyone who likes the yankees has been calling for his head since hes been signed...

i cant believe they didnt just get rid of him....he has Pavano written all over him.</P>

JPizzack
09-28-2010, 10:25 AM
"I never expect my team to win, it's just an awesome bonus when we do"
-Justin Percesepe</P>


</P>


I don't know why more people don't follow my school of thought. I still get to feel good in the beginning of the week. lol</P>

ibleedblue85
09-28-2010, 10:30 AM
I wonder if we even win 8 games this year?

Julius is going to kill our O-Line and Briggs with Urlacher. Don't have a good feeling about this one...


i actually do. I like us in the upset
</P>


if we get our **** together, we will win. we have the talent and that is whats so damn frusterating. the problem is i REALLY thought after indy we would come out strong and play well, make adjustments and be angry.. esp being home. after seeing another horrible game its hard to be confident we can beat anyone this season.</P>


</P>


i was watching GB CHI last night and it was such a good game. some great offensive and defensive plays.. down to the wire... just a good football game. i miss that feeling, that feeling of getting excited and your hearts beating so fast and you dont know whether next your going to throw something or jump for joy off the couch.. i miss it. watching the giants games lately its like im in a good mood for maybe the first quarter. i watch the game just cause they are my team but its like i just want it to be over and me out of my misery. i hate this feeling. i hope they get it together and SOON</P>

bigblue4417
09-28-2010, 10:32 AM
Burnett is the 1st Yankees starter to lose 15 games since 92. lol
</p>


except anyone who likes the yankees has been calling for his head since hes been signed...

i cant believe they didnt just get rid of him....he has Pavano written all over him.</p>
He could also be the first pitcher in Major League Baseball to lose 15 games and have an ERA over 5.

Yankees starting pitching is 2-10 in the last month with a 6 ERA.

You Yanks fans have to be getting a little nervous about who is throwing the ball.

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:35 AM
Burnett is the 1st Yankees starter to lose 15 games since 92. lol
</p>


except anyone who likes the yankees has been calling for his head since hes been signed...

i cant believe they didnt just get rid of him....he has Pavano written all over him.</p>

except he did help us win a ring already

DavenIII
09-28-2010, 10:35 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

My take on Coughlin is that we should have Cohwer instead.


ya know i do like Cower alot, but two major things that i am really unsure baout if he comes here

A) will he switch us to the 3-4, cuz im not sure i'd like that

and

B) would he make us a run heavy offense and just throw 20 times a game if lucky? Not sure id like that either


that's interesting, because I like both of those things.

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:36 AM
Burnett is the 1st Yankees starter to lose 15 games since 92. lol
</p>


except anyone who likes the yankees has been calling for his head since hes been signed...

i cant believe they didnt just get rid of him....he has Pavano written all over him.</p>
He could also be the first pitcher in Major League Baseball to lose 15 games and have an ERA over 5.

Yankees starting pitching is 2-10 in the last month with a 6 ERA.

You Yanks fans have to be getting a little nervous about who is throwing the ball.


playoffs are a new season and a ne wmindset....

this is why baseball sucks. As long as we dont play TExas first round i still like our shot

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:38 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

My take on Coughlin is that we should have Cohwer instead.


ya know i do like Cower alot, but two major things that i am really unsure baout if he comes here

A) will he switch us to the 3-4, cuz im not sure i'd like that

and

B) would he make us a run heavy offense and just throw 20 times a game if lucky? Not sure id like that either


that's interesting, because I like both of those things.


i dont because then everything we've drafted for the past 3-4 years is going to be undone. We've drafted young talent at WRs and players to stack the 4-3 line. It would be like rebuilding. We have our issues, but rebuilding should not be an option.

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:40 AM
on a side note, Dansby is a BALLER

he would of looked good in blue

DavenIII
09-28-2010, 10:47 AM
on a side note, Dansby is a BALLER

he would of looked good in blue


Yea I wanted him here during the offseason.

About rebuilding, it wouldn't be so bad, we have 3 good WR's (Nicks/Smith/Manningham) nothing "wrong" with having good receivers on a running team, we'd probably need to draft some O-line (but we need to do that anyway) probably a new RB (unless we start using Danny Ware :P) and some LB's...and a big DT...

I mean we are already going to have to do most of that anyhow in our current scheme, I think this is as good a time as ever to switch it up.

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:50 AM
on a side note, Dansby is a BALLER

he would of looked good in blue


Yea I wanted him here during the offseason.

About rebuilding, it wouldn't be so bad, we have 3 good WR's (Nicks/Smith/Manningham) nothing "wrong" with having good receivers on a running team, we'd probably need to draft some O-line (but we need to do that anyway) probably a new RB (unless we start using Danny Ware :P) and some LB's...and a big DT...

I mean we are already going to have to do most of that anyhow in our current scheme, I think this is as good a time as ever to switch it up.


bradshaw is on pace to have 1350 yards and 11 TDs... i think we're fine with him. Plus another 250-300 yards receiving
. Not to mention about a 5 ypc average

Morehead State
09-28-2010, 10:50 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

My take on Coughlin is that we should have Cohwer instead.


ya know i do like Cower alot, but two major things that i am really unsure baout if he comes here

A) will he switch us to the 3-4, cuz im not sure i'd like that

and

B) would he make us a run heavy offense and just throw 20 times a game if lucky? Not sure id like that either


that's interesting, because I like both of those things.


i dont because then everything we've drafted for the past 3-4 years is going to be undone. We've drafted young talent at WRs and players to stack the 4-3 line. It would be like rebuilding. We have our issues, but rebuilding should not be an option.
</P>


If we had Cowher he would use our talent to its fullest. He has had both running teams and passing teams in Pittsburgh.</P>


Tommy Maddox threw it all over the field when he was there. </P>


But I would like to see a return to "Giants Football". And that means more pounding it down their throats.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:52 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

My take on Coughlin is that we should have Cohwer instead.


ya know i do like Cower alot, but two major things that i am really unsure baout if he comes here

A) will he switch us to the 3-4, cuz im not sure i'd like that

and

B) would he make us a run heavy offense and just throw 20 times a game if lucky? Not sure id like that either


that's interesting, because I like both of those things.


i dont because then everything we've drafted for the past 3-4 years is going to be undone. We've drafted young talent at WRs and players to stack the 4-3 line. It would be like rebuilding. We have our issues, but rebuilding should not be an option.
</p>


If we had Cowher he would use our talent to its fullest. He has had both running teams and passing teams in Pittsburgh.</p>


Tommy Maddox threw it all over the field when he was there. </p>


But I would like to see a return to "Giants Football". And that means more pounding it down their throats.</p>


I guess i agree...

we can't do that with this line tho pappy.. they just dont have it anymore

Morehead State
09-28-2010, 10:53 AM
on a side note, Dansby is a BALLER

he would of looked good in blue


Yea I wanted him here during the offseason.

About rebuilding, it wouldn't be so bad, we have 3 good WR's (Nicks/Smith/Manningham) nothing "wrong" with having good receivers on a running team, we'd probably need to draft some O-line (but we need to do that anyway) probably a new RB (unless we start using Danny Ware :P) and some LB's...and a big DT...

I mean we are already going to have to do most of that anyhow in our current scheme, I think this is as good a time as ever to switch it up.


bradshaw is on pace to have 1350 yards and 11 TDs... i think we're fine with him. Plus another 250-300 yards receiving
. Not to mention about a 5 ypc average
</P>


If Coughlin was smart, he would run it more with Bradshaw. Despite the raw hate that Scrappy has for him, he has the ability to be a top back.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:54 AM
on a side note, Dansby is a BALLER

he would of looked good in blue


Yea I wanted him here during the offseason.

About rebuilding, it wouldn't be so bad, we have 3 good WR's (Nicks/Smith/Manningham) nothing "wrong" with having good receivers on a running team, we'd probably need to draft some O-line (but we need to do that anyway) probably a new RB (unless we start using Danny Ware :P) and some LB's...and a big DT...

I mean we are already going to have to do most of that anyhow in our current scheme, I think this is as good a time as ever to switch it up.


bradshaw is on pace to have 1350 yards and 11 TDs... i think we're fine with him. Plus another 250-300 yards receiving
. Not to mention about a 5 ypc average
</p>


If Coughlin was smart, he would run it more with Bradshaw. Despite the raw hate that Scrappy has for him, he has the ability to be a top back.</p>

yea i dont get how these guys are sleeping on him. He hasn't even had a 100 yard game yet n hes on pace to have 1350 yards. Not to mention a subpar performance from our line this year. They really screewd him week 1

Morehead State
09-28-2010, 10:55 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

My take on Coughlin is that we should have Cohwer instead.


ya know i do like Cower alot, but two major things that i am really unsure baout if he comes here

A) will he switch us to the 3-4, cuz im not sure i'd like that

and

B) would he make us a run heavy offense and just throw 20 times a game if lucky? Not sure id like that either


that's interesting, because I like both of those things.


i dont because then everything we've drafted for the past 3-4 years is going to be undone. We've drafted young talent at WRs and players to stack the 4-3 line. It would be like rebuilding. We have our issues, but rebuilding should not be an option.
</P>


If we had Cowher he would use our talent to its fullest. He has had both running teams and passing teams in Pittsburgh.</P>


Tommy Maddox threw it all over the field when he was there. </P>


But I would like to see a return to "Giants Football". And that means more pounding it down their throats.</P>





I guess i agree...

we can't do that with this line tho pappy.. they just dont have it anymore
</P>


As a matter of fact its what this O line does best. As you said, Bradshaw is averaging over 5 yards per carry. In order to negate speed rushes from the edges, you have to run it more than they are.</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 10:58 AM
Whats everones take on coughlin?

My take on Coughlin is that we should have Cohwer instead.


ya know i do like Cower alot, but two major things that i am really unsure baout if he comes here

A) will he switch us to the 3-4, cuz im not sure i'd like that

and

B) would he make us a run heavy offense and just throw 20 times a game if lucky? Not sure id like that either


that's interesting, because I like both of those things.


i dont because then everything we've drafted for the past 3-4 years is going to be undone. We've drafted young talent at WRs and players to stack the 4-3 line. It would be like rebuilding. We have our issues, but rebuilding should not be an option.
</p>


If we had Cowher he would use our talent to its fullest. He has had both running teams and passing teams in Pittsburgh.</p>


Tommy Maddox threw it all over the field when he was there. </p>


But I would like to see a return to "Giants Football". And that means more pounding it down their throats.</p>





I guess i agree...

we can't do that with this line tho pappy.. they just dont have it anymore
</p>


As a matter of fact its what this O line does best. As you said, Bradshaw is averaging over 5 yards per carry. In order to negate speed rushes from the edges, you have to run it more than they are.</p>


</p>

like i said i caught most of the game on the radio so i didn't see it, but form the way papa was calling it, it seemed like there was alot of extra effort on ABs side to get the extra yards. No?

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 11:01 AM
so far it looks like Kiwi stays and Osi goes, no?

DavenIII
09-28-2010, 11:04 AM
I think raw hate is a little much, I don't hate the guy, I just don't think he's very good...he's not the type of RB I like, I loved Rodney Hampton, Ottis Anderson, Joe Morris...none of those guys were anything like Bradshaw..Bradshaw is flashy, Bradshaw is streaky and unreliable, he's not the type of RB I want on my Football team.

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 11:05 AM
I think raw hate is a little much, I don't hate the guy, I just don't think he's very good...he's not the type of RB I like, I loved Rodney Hampton, Ottis Anderson, Joe Morris...none of those guys were anything like Bradshaw..Bradshaw is flashy, Bradshaw is streaky and unreliable, he's not the type of RB I want on my Football team.


define streaky because i dont think u could be more off on that

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 11:06 AM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/1879058.aspx

if we dont invite these guys, im not coming






and on a side note about the Lions, how injured did Best get?

Morehead State
09-28-2010, 11:07 AM
I think raw hate is a little much, I don't hate the guy, I just don't think he's very good...he's not the type of RB I like, I loved Rodney Hampton, Ottis Anderson, Joe Morris...none of those guys were anything like Bradshaw..Bradshaw is flashy, Bradshaw is streaky and unreliable, he's not the type of RB I want on my Football team.
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Bradshaw is fast, tough and runs as hard as any back I've ever seen. His only downfall is that he puts it on the ground once in a while.</P>


He's a heck of a back though.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 11:08 AM
I think raw hate is a little much, I don't hate the guy, I just don't think he's very good...he's not the type of RB I like, I loved Rodney Hampton, Ottis Anderson, Joe Morris...none of those guys were anything like Bradshaw..Bradshaw is flashy, Bradshaw is streaky and unreliable, he's not the type of RB I want on my Football team.
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Bradshaw is fast, tough and runs as hard as any back I've ever seen. His only downfall is that he puts it on the ground once in a while.</p>


He's a heck of a back though.</p>

and his inability to block




and not to rehash, but BRadshaw proves my theory on a RB that rushing the ball is the main concern. Hes awful at blocking, mediocre at best as a receiver, but helluva runner and hes our starting RB

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 11:09 AM
I think raw hate is a little much, I don't hate the guy, I just don't think he's very good...he's not the type of RB I like, I loved Rodney Hampton, Ottis Anderson, Joe Morris...none of those guys were anything like Bradshaw..Bradshaw is flashy, Bradshaw is streaky and unreliable, he's not the type of RB I want on my Football team.
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Bradshaw is fast, tough and runs as hard as any back I've ever seen. His only downfall is that he puts it on the ground once in a while.</p>


He's a heck of a back though.</p>

and his inability to block




and not to rehash, but BRadshaw proves my theory on a RB that rushing the ball is the main concern. Hes awful at blocking, mediocre at best as a receiver, but helluva runner and hes our starting RB

Morehead State
09-28-2010, 11:10 AM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/1879058.aspx

if we dont invite these guys, im not coming






and on a side note about the Lions, how injured did Best get?
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If it was 4 Norweigen chicks I could see your point.</P>


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Or is there something you're not telling us?</P>

DavenIII
09-28-2010, 11:11 AM
define streaky because i dont think u could be more off on that


Streaky as in 1 yard here -2 yards there 2 yards here 1 yard there then bang 50 yards, then back to 1 yard here -2 yards there.

bigblue4417
09-28-2010, 11:12 AM
how injured did Best get?

Adam Schefter says it's day to day

bigblue4417
09-28-2010, 11:13 AM
define streaky because i dont think u could be more off on that


Streaky as in 1 yard here -2 yards there 2 yards here 1 yard there then bang 50 yards, then back to 1 yard here -2 yards there.

Then a fumble.

DavenIII
09-28-2010, 11:15 AM
and not to rehash, but Bradshaw proves my theory on a RB that rushing the ball is the main concern. Hes awful at blocking, mediocre at best as a receiver, but helluva runner and hes our starting RB

Whats funny is you say this like Bradshaws good overall even though he can't block and isn't a receiving threat, meanwhile those are two major reasons I don't think he's good enough to be a long term solution at the RB position for our team....

so I could say Bradshaw proves my point the Running the ball is not the only concern...but lets not rehash

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 11:24 AM
define streaky because i dont think u could be more off on that


Streaky as in 1 yard here -2 yards there 2 yards here 1 yard there then bang 50 yards, then back to 1 yard here -2 yards there.


you've basically just listed the way EVERY RB does it

BRadshws log:

0 yards
1 yard
8 yards
6 yards
0 yards
0 yards
2 yards
10 yards
-2 yards
22 yards
5 yards
20 yards
1 yard
8 yards
7 yards

CJs stateline:

-2 yards
4 yards
6 yards
-2 yards
1 yard
3 yards
12 yards
3 yards
6 yards
6 yards
2 yards
1 yard
1 yard
1 yard
6 yards
8yards
-2 yards
0 yards
0 yards
1 yard
2 yards
0 yards
3 yards
8 yards
6 yards
-3 yards
-1 yard
1 yard
42 yards
3 yards
1 yard
8 yard

now thats AB vs arguably the best back in the league.. its just as "inconsistent"

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 11:26 AM
define streaky because i dont think u could be more off on that


Streaky as in 1 yard here -2 yards there 2 yards here 1 yard there then bang 50 yards, then back to 1 yard here -2 yards there.


you've basically just listed the way EVERY RB does it

BRadshws log:

0 yards
1 yard
8 yards
6 yards
0 yards
0 yards
2 yards
10 yards
-2 yards
22 yards
5 yards
20 yards
1 yard
8 yards
7 yards

CJs stateline:

-2 yards
4 yards
6 yards
-2 yards
1 yard
3 yards
12 yards
3 yards
6 yards
6 yards
2 yards
1 yard
1 yard
1 yard
6 yards
8yards
-2 yards
0 yards
0 yards
1 yard
2 yards
0 yards
3 yards
8 yards
6 yards
-3 yards
-1 yard
1 yard
42 yards
3 yards
1 yard
8 yard

now thats AB vs arguably the best back in the league.. its just as "inconsistent"













10 of 32 carries for 5 or more yards for CJ
21 of 32 3 yards or less

8 of 15 yards for 5 or more yards for AB
7 of 15 carries for 3 or less yards for AB

ibleedblue85
09-28-2010, 11:26 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-49ers-rayefired</P>


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how come we cant make changes mid-season. [8o|]</P>

Morehead State
09-28-2010, 11:27 AM
define streaky because i dont think u could be more off on that


Streaky as in 1 yard here -2 yards there 2 yards here 1 yard there then bang 50 yards, then back to 1 yard here -2 yards there.
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You just described the career of Barry Sanders.</P>

DavenIII
09-28-2010, 11:31 AM
I was trying to avoid bringing up CJ and AP as comparisons cause you'd automaticly go "See and you don't want that?" but yes I agree AB is similar to CJ and AP in that he's flashy, he breaks big runs after strings of no gains....Thing is CJ and AP can get away with it, because they break em much more frequently.

that's not what I want though, I want a guy who will get us 4-5 yards a carry almost 100% of the time, and not put us in third and long positions, I want BJ back from his first 2 years....I don't want the guy who can break it at any point but 90% of the time leaves us in a 3rd and 8 position.

MattMeyerBud
09-28-2010, 11:32 AM
and not to rehash, but Bradshaw proves my theory on a RB that rushing the ball is the main concern. Hes awful at blocking, mediocre at best as a receiver, but helluva runner and hes our starting RB

Whats funny is you say this like Bradshaws good overall even though he can't block and isn't a receiving threat, meanwhile those are two major reasons I don't think he's good enough to be a long term solution at the RB position for our team....

so I could say Bradshaw proves my point the Running the ball is not the only concern...but lets not rehash


not really cuz hes still our starting running back and we're not gonna replace him, no matter how much u wish for Ware