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dezzzR
12-08-2010, 02:38 PM
I meant beats. Lol I will save thee kinky stuff for you babylol Lando loves the Canadian Bacon.. its thicker up here..[;)]ITS HAM!!!

bandwgn86
12-08-2010, 02:38 PM
I meant beats. Lol I will save thee kinky stuff for you babylol Lando loves the Canadian Bacon.. its thicker up here..[;)]</P>


Its called ham here.</P>w/e its pink and he loves it

Morehead State
12-08-2010, 02:38 PM
Thank you all. Hopefully I can get a lil bump from winning fantasy football. Lol</P>


For your sake i hope so too Lando.</P>


That 2nd place money should come in handy.</P>


Let me know what you got with it ok? Jk I am going to remain humble and hope for the best. I am afraid of Shock. I hope Bandy bears him</P>


I'm afraid of the Dog Murderer. </P>


My team is in a bit of trouble. My RB's are getting to be a weakness. I will probably have to bench LdT and start Ronnie and Blount along with Forte.</P>


have you seen S&amp;A's matchups.. i'm actually surprised he's projected so low</P>


I did after you commented on how soft you thought it was. I think his matchups are pretty tough.</P>

bandwgn86
12-08-2010, 02:42 PM
Thank you all. Hopefully I can get a lil bump from winning fantasy football. Lol</P>


For your sake i hope so too Lando.</P>


That 2nd place money should come in handy.</P>


Let me know what you got with it ok? Jk I am going to remain humble and hope for the best. I am afraid of Shock. I hope Bandy bears him</P>


I'm afraid of the Dog Murderer. </P>


My team is in a bit of trouble. My RB's are getting to be a weakness. I will probably have to bench LdT and start Ronnie and Blount along with Forte.</P>


have you seen S&amp;A's matchups.. i'm actually surprised he's projected so low</P>


I did after you commented on how soft you thought it was. I think his matchups are pretty tough.</P>judt looked again.. i'm project 0.02 points ahead of him.. i think thats what i beat him by in the first week. lol

Morehead State
12-08-2010, 02:46 PM
Thank you all. Hopefully I can get a lil bump from winning fantasy football. Lol</P>


For your sake i hope so too Lando.</P>


That 2nd place money should come in handy.</P>


Let me know what you got with it ok? Jk I am going to remain humble and hope for the best. I am afraid of Shock. I hope Bandy bears him</P>


I'm afraid of the Dog Murderer. </P>


My team is in a bit of trouble. My RB's are getting to be a weakness. I will probably have to bench LdT and start Ronnie and Blount along with Forte.</P>


have you seen S&amp;A's matchups.. i'm actually surprised he's projected so low</P>


I did after you commented on how soft you thought it was. I think his matchups are pretty tough.</P>


judt looked again.. i'm project 0.02 points ahead of him.. i think thats what i beat him by in the first week. lol</P>


His guys are facing some of the toughest defenses in the league.</P>

bandwgn86
12-08-2010, 02:52 PM
Thank you all. Hopefully I can get a lil bump from winning fantasy football. Lol</P>


For your sake i hope so too Lando.</P>


That 2nd place money should come in handy.</P>


Let me know what you got with it ok? Jk I am going to remain humble and hope for the best. I am afraid of Shock. I hope Bandy bears him</P>


I'm afraid of the Dog Murderer. </P>


My team is in a bit of trouble. My RB's are getting to be a weakness. I will probably have to bench LdT and start Ronnie and Blount along with Forte.</P>


have you seen S&amp;A's matchups.. i'm actually surprised he's projected so low</P>


I did after you commented on how soft you thought it was. I think his matchups are pretty tough.</P>


judt looked again.. i'm project 0.02 points ahead of him.. i think thats what i beat him by in the first week. lol</P>


His guys are facing some of the toughest defenses in the league.</P>


are we looking at the same team..</P>


Peyton vs Tenn</P>


Rice vs Hou</P>


Ivory vs STL </P>


McFadden vs Jack</P>


Gates vs doesn't really matter he's a beast</P>


TB's D will get atleast 15 vs Wash</P>

Morehead State
12-08-2010, 02:56 PM
Thank you all. Hopefully I can get a lil bump from winning fantasy football. Lol</P>


For your sake i hope so too Lando.</P>


That 2nd place money should come in handy.</P>


Let me know what you got with it ok? Jk I am going to remain humble and hope for the best. I am afraid of Shock. I hope Bandy bears him</P>


I'm afraid of the Dog Murderer. </P>


My team is in a bit of trouble. My RB's are getting to be a weakness. I will probably have to bench LdT and start Ronnie and Blount along with Forte.</P>


have you seen S&amp;A's matchups.. i'm actually surprised he's projected so low</P>


I did after you commented on how soft you thought it was. I think his matchups are pretty tough.</P>


judt looked again.. i'm project 0.02 points ahead of him.. i think thats what i beat him by in the first week. lol</P>


His guys are facing some of the toughest defenses in the league.</P>


are we looking at the same team..</P>


Peyton vs Tenn</P>


Rice vs Hou</P>


Ivory vs STL </P>


McFadden vs Jack</P>


Gates vs doesn't really matter he's a beast</P>


TB's D will get atleast 15 vs Wash</P>


</P>


Oh my God Bandy....You're so negative.</P>


Who do you remind me of?.................Let's see..........</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT size=5>Got it!</FONT></P>


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lttaylor56
12-08-2010, 02:57 PM
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":"msg"}'><SPAN class=messageBody>Steve Smith (http://www.facebook.com/SteveSmith) was only supposed to take 25 snaps today and ended up practicing for the entire practice. GREAT NEWS!!! #nyg #giants</SPAN></H6>


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That is great news.[Y] Let's see how he recovers for Thursday's practice, that will tell us more. </P>

bandwgn86
12-08-2010, 03:04 PM
Thank you all. Hopefully I can get a lil bump from winning fantasy football. Lol</P>


For your sake i hope so too Lando.</P>


That 2nd place money should come in handy.</P>


Let me know what you got with it ok? Jk I am going to remain humble and hope for the best. I am afraid of Shock. I hope Bandy bears him</P>


I'm afraid of the Dog Murderer. </P>


My team is in a bit of trouble. My RB's are getting to be a weakness. I will probably have to bench LdT and start Ronnie and Blount along with Forte.</P>


have you seen S&amp;A's matchups.. i'm actually surprised he's projected so low</P>


I did after you commented on how soft you thought it was. I think his matchups are pretty tough.</P>


judt looked again.. i'm project 0.02 points ahead of him.. i think thats what i beat him by in the first week. lol</P>


His guys are facing some of the toughest defenses in the league.</P>


are we looking at the same team..</P>


Peyton vs Tenn</P>


Rice vs Hou</P>


Ivory vs STL </P>


McFadden vs Jack</P>


Gates vs doesn't really matter he's a beast</P>


TB's D will get atleast 15 vs Wash</P>


</P>


Oh my God Bandy....You're so negative.</P>


Who do you remind me of?.................Let's see..........</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT size=5>Got it!</FONT></P>


</P>
<CENTER>http://www.itsallabouteeyore.awoodman.net/images/eeyore6.jpg</CENTER>lmao.. i'm not that bad.. is this MH losing or giving up on this discussion.

MattMeyerBud
12-08-2010, 03:37 PM
hes been gettin defeated alot lately, im not sure how hes handling it

Morehead State
12-08-2010, 03:45 PM
hes been gettin defeated alot lately, im not sure how hes handling it
</P>


<FONT size=4>Morehead=Winner</FONT></P>

bandwgn86
12-08-2010, 03:46 PM
hes been gettin defeated alot lately, im not sure how hes handling it
its not nice to pick on seniors MMB.. he's definitely the sharpest 90 year old i know..

Morehead State
12-08-2010, 03:54 PM
hes been gettin defeated alot lately, im not sure how hes handling it
its not nice to pick on seniors MMB.. he's definitely the sharpest 90 year old i know..</P>


Damn straight.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-08-2010, 04:04 PM
hes been gettin defeated alot lately, im not sure how hes handling it
its not nice to pick on seniors MMB.. he's definitely the sharpest 90 year old i know..

they say respect ur elders... but hes more like my elders elders so its okay for me to make fun

bandwgn86
12-08-2010, 04:13 PM
hes been gettin defeated alot lately, im not sure how hes handling it
its not nice to pick on seniors MMB.. he's definitely the sharpest 90 year old i know..

they say respect ur elders... but hes more like my elders elders so its okay for me to make fun
lol.. you found a loop hole

bandwgn86
12-08-2010, 06:09 PM
i'm on the wrong end of the transportation business.. $1500to expedite a skid from Indiana into Canada for a 11 hour drive..

bigblue4417
12-08-2010, 06:25 PM
Maybe just the wrong end of the border

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 06:43 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 08:02 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</P>


Nice rationalization.</P>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 08:33 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</P>


Nice rationalization.</P>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</P>


</P>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</P>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 08:41 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</P>


Nice rationalization.</P>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</P>


</P>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</P>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</P>


</P>


Each player has one position in the hitting lineup. Crawford is a good outfielder but its about the bat. (and in his case speed on the base paths)</P>


Tex and Crawford each take up the same percentage of a lineup. Your argument about outfielder vs. infielder is silly.</P>


You are rationalizing again Pizz. Its cute and only makes me like you more. But still..........</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 08:52 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</P>


Nice rationalization.</P>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</P>


</P>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</P>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</P>


</P>


Each player has one position in the hitting lineup. Crawford is a good outfielder but its about the bat. (and in his case speed on the base paths)</P>


Tex and Crawford each take up the same percentage of a lineup. Your argument about outfielder vs. infielder is silly.</P>


You are rationalizing again Pizz. Its cute and only makes me like you more. But still..........</P>


</P>


rationalizing what? why do i have to rationalize your signing? i dont get it.</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 08:55 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</P>


Nice rationalization.</P>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</P>


</P>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</P>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</P>


</P>


Each player has one position in the hitting lineup. Crawford is a good outfielder but its about the bat. (and in his case speed on the base paths)</P>


Tex and Crawford each take up the same percentage of a lineup. Your argument about outfielder vs. infielder is silly.</P>


You are rationalizing again Pizz. Its cute and only makes me like you more. But still..........</P>


</P>


rationalizing what? why do i have to rationalize your signing? i dont get it.</P>


</P>


Do I really have to explain it Pizzey?</P>


Lets face it. Our home grown players are better than yours. And now our mercenaries are better than yours.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 09:00 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</p>


Nice rationalization.</p>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</p>


</p>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</p>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</p>


</p>


Each player has one position in the hitting lineup. Crawford is a good outfielder but its about the bat. (and in his case speed on the base paths)</p>


Tex and Crawford each take up the same percentage of a lineup. Your argument about outfielder vs. infielder is silly.</p>


You are rationalizing again Pizz. Its cute and only makes me like you more. But still..........</p>

Crawfords whole game is based on his legs and he is turning 30. Its not rationalizing, its truth.

It was a bad deal. YOu'll get two or three years of quality out of him (not as much as u think and not much better than gardener) but enjoy lol. I would of liked Crawford, until i heard what he wanted money wise

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 09:02 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</p>


Nice rationalization.</p>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</p>


</p>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</p>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</p>


</p>


Each player has one position in the hitting lineup. Crawford is a good outfielder but its about the bat. (and in his case speed on the base paths)</p>


Tex and Crawford each take up the same percentage of a lineup. Your argument about outfielder vs. infielder is silly.</p>


You are rationalizing again Pizz. Its cute and only makes me like you more. But still..........</p>


</p>


rationalizing what? why do i have to rationalize your signing? i dont get it.</p>


</p>


Do I really have to explain it Pizzey?</p>


Lets face it. Our home grown players are better than yours. And now our mercenaries are better than yours.</p>

lol u DEF do not have better home grown players

at all

but u guys are going to have such a high salary this year tha ti love you did this and that u did it on a guy like crawford. Because now when u **** the bed, u can't blame it on spending money anymore

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 09:03 AM
Do I really have to explain it Pizzey?


Lets face it. Our home grown players are better than yours. And now our mercenaries are better than yours.</P>


</P>


you have more than 1 merc?
you traded for Adrian G, so I dont see it that way, but props for trading propsect garbage for him I guess. still didnt re-sign him yet, right?

I would assume that you have a better minor league system then us...HOWEVER i know for a fact that Scranton/Wilkes-Barre has been raking inAAA for us, so I dont know if thats even true.

The only guy I can't wait to see at the pro level is Jesus Montero. they just dont know if he's a pro level catcher yet. </P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 09:07 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</P>


Nice rationalization.</P>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</P>


</P>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</P>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</P>


</P>


Each player has one position in the hitting lineup. Crawford is a good outfielder but its about the bat. (and in his case speed on the base paths)</P>


Tex and Crawford each take up the same percentage of a lineup. Your argument about outfielder vs. infielder is silly.</P>


You are rationalizing again Pizz. Its cute and only makes me like you more. But still..........</P>


</P>


rationalizing what? why do i have to rationalize your signing? i dont get it.</P>


</P>


Do I really have to explain it Pizzey?</P>


Lets face it. Our home grown players are better than yours. And now our mercenaries are better than yours.</P>




lol u DEF do not have better home grown players

at all

but u guys are going to have such a high salary this year tha ti love you did this and that u did it on a guy like crawford. Because now when u **** the bed, u can't blame it on spending money anymore
</P>


660 straight sellouts. $142MM is a drop in the bucket with our historic fan support.</P>


Matt is angry today and I understand completely. Let it out Matt.</P>


Pedroia, Yuke, Ellsbury, Tek, Buchholz, Lester, Bard, etc..... Nice farm system in Beantown.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 09:12 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</p>


Nice rationalization.</p>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</p>


</p>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</p>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</p>


</p>


Each player has one position in the hitting lineup. Crawford is a good outfielder but its about the bat. (and in his case speed on the base paths)</p>


Tex and Crawford each take up the same percentage of a lineup. Your argument about outfielder vs. infielder is silly.</p>


You are rationalizing again Pizz. Its cute and only makes me like you more. But still..........</p>


</p>


rationalizing what? why do i have to rationalize your signing? i dont get it.</p>


</p>


Do I really have to explain it Pizzey?</p>


Lets face it. Our home grown players are better than yours. And now our mercenaries are better than yours.</p>




lol u DEF do not have better home grown players

at all

but u guys are going to have such a high salary this year tha ti love you did this and that u did it on a guy like crawford. Because now when u **** the bed, u can't blame it on spending money anymore
</p>


660 straight sellouts. $142MM is a drop in the bucket with our historic fan support.</p>


Matt is angry today and I understand completely. Let it out Matt.</p>


Pedroia, Yuke, Ellsbury, Tek, Buchholz, Lester, Bard, etc..... Nice farm system in Beantown.</p>

all i gotta say is Jeter - Mo - Pettitte - Hughes - Posada - Cervelli - Gardner - Austin Jackson - Cano

and its game over

Pappy as much as ur trying to make it out like we're scared, we're not. Crawford isn't the type of signing to strike fear into our hearts lol. If you got Lee, i'll admit that would of been scary.

A Gonz is good but i mean you've lost Manny, Papi sucks, and VMart. Your team already had holes.

I just LOOOOVE the fact that the Red Sox sold out and SPENT WAAADS on their team. When their whole argument was the unfair advantage on the rest of the league the yankees had. SOOO FULLL of ****, just like ur justification of it.

Crawford is overrated, Gardener had better OBP and is faster. Enjoy lolz

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 09:13 AM
let's all face the facts of this rivalry.

boston has 2 pitchers. Lester and Buc
beckett's best days are obviously behind him, and Lackey doesnt even need to be included in this convo lol

IF we get Lee, there is no question who the better team is, but let's continue anyway...</P>


your bullpen sucks, ours also with a few exceptions, but has Mo at least (lol, all bullpens suck)

breaking down the infield, NY is clearly better. The addition of Gonzalez helps you obviously.

Your outfield is slowly catching up to ours, but for your OF, it's a matter of health. We are better.</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 09:16 AM
let's all face the facts of this rivalry.

boston has 2 pitchers. Lester and Buc
beckett's best days are obviously behind him, and Lackey doesnt even need to be included in this convo lol

IF we get Lee, there is no question who the better team is, but let's continue anyway...</P>


your bullpen sucks, ours also with a few exceptions, but has Mo at least (lol, all bullpens suck)

breaking down the infield, NY is clearly better. The addition of Gonzalez helps you obviously.

Your outfield is slowly catching up to ours, but for your OF, it's a matter of health. We are better.</P>


</P>


You're being so precious right now Pizz. Why couldn't you have been this cute before. We might have gotten off to a better start.</P>


You're so wounded and vulnerable. I like this new you.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 09:22 AM
u can put up the false bravado Pappy, but ur team has gone against all u believe and hate in the yankees (and for a booty player)...

i will bask in this while u put up ur fake smile.

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 09:26 AM
u can put up the false bravado Pappy, but ur team has gone against all u believe and hate in the yankees (and for a booty player)...

i will bask in this while u put up ur fake smile.
</P>


What the hell is a "booty player"....you kids today.</P>


I can't tell you how fun this is bouncing back and forth between this thread and your facebook page. Its not the signing that makes it great. Its the reaction of you Yankee fans. You guys are driving yourself nuts trying to convince yourselves that this is a good thing for you somehow.</P>


I haven't had this much fun since my ex-wife left.</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 09:28 AM
let's all face the facts of this rivalry.

boston has 2 pitchers. Lester and Buc
beckett's best days are obviously behind him, and Lackey doesnt even need to be included in this convo lol

IF we get Lee, there is no question who the better team is, but let's continue anyway...</P>


your bullpen sucks, ours also with a few exceptions, but has Mo at least (lol, all bullpens suck)

breaking down the infield, NY is clearly better. The addition of Gonzalez helps you obviously.

Your outfield is slowly catching up to ours, but for your OF, it's a matter of health. We are better.</P>


</P>


You're being so precious right now Pizz. Why couldn't you have been this cute before. We might have gotten off to a better start.</P>


You're so wounded and vulnerable. I like this new you.</P>


</P>


why thank you sir.
I dont know what you mean by wounded exactly, but thats ok. If anything youre the wounded one, finally coming to the realization that your team is becoming what you apparently hate. and now youre angry over the Crawford signing, which i understand, I do....but now youre trying to justify it, and hide your anger to us. I get it, it's cool...and "cute"</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 09:39 AM
u can put up the false bravado Pappy, but ur team has gone against all u believe and hate in the yankees (and for a booty player)...

i will bask in this while u put up ur fake smile.
</p>


What the hell is a "booty player"....you kids today.</p>


I can't tell you how fun this is bouncing back and forth between this thread and your facebook page. Its not the signing that makes it great. Its the reaction of you Yankee fans. You guys are driving yourself nuts trying to convince yourselves that this is a good thing for you somehow.</p>


I haven't had this much fun since my ex-wife left.</p>

that would make sense if we weren't saying the same exact stuff BEFORE boston signed him lolol

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 09:42 AM
boston signs crawford. 7 yr 142 mill

THANK GOD! I did not want him in pinstripes, enjoy that waste of money lol
He's an outfielder for ****s sake!!

Lee in Pinstripes by Sunday
</p>


Nice rationalization.</p>


We just signed Roberto Clemente.</p>


</p>


wow you just compared Clemente to Carl Crawford, and appear to be totally ok with it. if any of us said it, we'd hear it from you for sure.

No outfielder is worth what he just got paid(besides Ken Griffey Jr. the best outfielder of all time), im sure it was a no brainer for him.

There are 3 starting outfielders per team, and for comparison, 1 first basemen. because of a simple numbers game I feel that only the most talented of 1st Basemen play at a pro level, or end up playing first anyway. There are 100 starting outfielders.</p>


Well anyway...im glad you got him cuz i didnt want him, and enjoy that long contract =]</p>


</p>


Each player has one position in the hitting lineup. Crawford is a good outfielder but its about the bat. (and in his case speed on the base paths)</p>


Tex and Crawford each take up the same percentage of a lineup. Your argument about outfielder vs. infielder is silly.</p>


You are rationalizing again Pizz. Its cute and only makes me like you more. But still..........</p>


</p>


rationalizing what? why do i have to rationalize your signing? i dont get it.</p>


</p>


Do I really have to explain it Pizzey?</p>


Lets face it. Our home grown players are better than yours. And now our mercenaries are better than yours.</p>lmao you are ****ing delusional

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 09:50 AM
u can put up the false bravado Pappy, but ur team has gone against all u believe and hate in the yankees (and for a booty player)...

i will bask in this while u put up ur fake smile.
</P>


What the hell is a "booty player"....you kids today.</P>


I can't tell you how fun this is bouncing back and forth between this thread and your facebook page. Its not the signing that makes it great. Its the reaction of you Yankee fans. You guys are driving yourself nuts trying to convince yourselves that this is a good thing for you somehow.</P>


I haven't had this much fun since my ex-wife left.</P>




that would make sense if we weren't saying the same exact stuff BEFORE boston signed him lolol
</P>


yea, I def said I didn't want to spring for Crawford, and rather save for Lee, and then get bats the next few years.</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 10:02 AM
im going to be disapointed if the yanks go after ANY outfielder. i like what we have now very much.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 10:06 AM
im going to be disapointed if the yanks go after ANY outfielder. i like what we have now very much.


i think we could use a platoon type guy.

Im not sold on swish being every day player

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 10:07 AM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 10:13 AM
im going to be disapointed if the yanks go after ANY outfielder. i like what we have now very much.


i think we could use a platoon type guy.

Im not sold on swish being every day player
what do you mean, swish was fine and had a great year. if we need depth at outfield we can just look at the minors. if moreheads right about one thing regarding the yanks its that we need to see a few homegrown players. we dont need to go out and get a part time outfielder imo.

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 10:13 AM
im going to be disapointed if the yanks go after ANY outfielder. i like what we have now very much.


i think we could use a platoon type guy.

Im not sold on swish being every day player
</P>


Mike Cameron might be available.</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 10:18 AM
im going to be disapointed if the yanks go after ANY outfielder. i like what we have now very much.


i think we could use a platoon type guy.

Im not sold on swish being every day player
</P>


Swisher has grown on me. But i think youre right with him needing days off. other than those core 3, we have bunch of jobbers out there...Curtis was the only one who showed signs of life.
Kearns was ok, is he gone?</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 10:38 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 10:43 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </P>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</P>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</P>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 10:58 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </p>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</p>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</p>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</p>so if you dont think hes worth that kind of money why are you trying to justify it? and now youre saying your outfield sucked and now that crawford is there its now outstanding? kind of a stretch, no?
crawfords good doont get me wrong, but in this case matts right. id rather have a gardener who can do pretty much everything crawford does except hit bangers at a fraction of the cost. your team just did exactly what the yanks do, but now that your team has done it, "I dont really care that they spent that kind of money" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how convenient.
and lastly no one cares how "loyal" redsox fans are except the redsox and their obnoxious fans.

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 11:00 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </P>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</P>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</P>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</P>


so if you dont think hes worth that kind of money why are you trying to justify it? and now youre saying your outfield sucked and now that crawford is there its now outstanding? kind of a stretch, no?
crawfords good doont get me wrong, but in this case matts right. id rather have a gardener who can do pretty much everything crawford does except hit bangers at a fraction of the cost. your team just did exactly what the yanks do, but now that your team has done it, "I dont really care that they spent that kind of money" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how convenient.
and lastly no one cares how "loyal" redsox fans are except the redsox and their obnoxious fans.

</P>


little bit more blunt than I put it....but I can't say I disagree with any of it. lol</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 11:01 AM
Red Sox fans can never complain about the Yanks spending too much again

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 11:02 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>



</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </p>


now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 11:04 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </p>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</p>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</p>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</p>


so if you dont think hes worth that kind of money why are you trying to justify it? and now youre saying your outfield sucked and now that crawford is there its now outstanding? kind of a stretch, no?
crawfords good doont get me wrong, but in this case matts right. id rather have a gardener who can do pretty much everything crawford does except hit bangers at a fraction of the cost. your team just did exactly what the yanks do, but now that your team has done it, "I dont really care that they spent that kind of money" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how convenient.
and lastly no one cares how "loyal" redsox fans are except the redsox and their obnoxious fans.

</p>


little bit more blunt than I put it....but I can't say I disagree with any of it. lol</p>you know me, i like blunts.[:)]

ny06
12-09-2010, 11:05 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </P>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</P>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</P>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</P>


so if you dont think hes worth that kind of money why are you trying to justify it? and now youre saying your outfield sucked and now that crawford is there its now outstanding? kind of a stretch, no?
crawfords good doont get me wrong, but in this case matts right. id rather have a gardener who can do pretty much everything crawford does except hit bangers at a fraction of the cost. your team just did exactly what the yanks do, but now that your team has done it, "I dont really care that they spent that kind of money" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how convenient.
and lastly no one cares how "loyal" redsox fans are except the redsox and their obnoxious fans.

</P>


The Sox outfield sucks. </P>


Ellsbury is the only legetimate player,and all he can do is steal bases and cover ground in the outfield. </P>


Gardner is better than him by the way [:D]</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 11:05 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>



</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </p>


now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
lol we GOT him

ny06
12-09-2010, 11:06 AM
Red Sox fans can never complain about the Yanks spending too much again</P>


Give it time. </P>


Morehead will find a way to complain about the Yankees spending</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 11:07 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </P>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</P>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</P>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</P>


so if you dont think hes worth that kind of money why are you trying to justify it? and now youre saying your outfield sucked and now that crawford is there its now outstanding? kind of a stretch, no?
crawfords good doont get me wrong, but in this case matts right. id rather have a gardener who can do pretty much everything crawford does except hit bangers at a fraction of the cost. your team just did exactly what the yanks do, but now that your team has done it, "I dont really care that they spent that kind of money" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how convenient.
and lastly no one cares how "loyal" redsox fans are except the redsox and their obnoxious fans.

</P>


No player is worth the money they make. If your goal is to win, than he is worth the money. If your goal is to earn an income for the team in excess of that salary as a product of the signing, thats up to the Red Sox accountants.</P>


And the Gardener thing is a joke. You guys are kidding yourselves with that one. He's a glorified triple A player. What do you think he would command on the FA market?</P>


</P>


</P>

ny06
12-09-2010, 11:09 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </P>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</P>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</P>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</P>


so if you dont think hes worth that kind of money why are you trying to justify it? and now youre saying your outfield sucked and now that crawford is there its now outstanding? kind of a stretch, no?
crawfords good doont get me wrong, but in this case matts right. id rather have a gardener who can do pretty much everything crawford does except hit bangers at a fraction of the cost. your team just did exactly what the yanks do, but now that your team has done it, "I dont really care that they spent that kind of money" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how convenient.
and lastly no one cares how "loyal" redsox fans are except the redsox and their obnoxious fans.

</P>


No player is worth the money they make. If your goal is to win, than he is worth the money. If your goal is to earn an income for the team in excess of that salary as a product of the signing, thats up to the Red Sox accountants.</P>


And the Gardener thing is a joke. You guys are kidding yourselves with that one. He's a glorified triple A player. What do you think he would command on the FA market?</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


If gardner is a triple A player, what does that make Ellsbury? </P>


Maybe he can get a try out for the Long island ducks..</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 11:10 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>



</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </P>





now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
</P>


I dont want to keep beating a dead horse, because of course I agree...but eventually continued conversation about this is going to cause a MH temper tantrum and eventually a temporary leave of absense from the thread, and of course I will "lol" and not apologize for anything I said and declare the rest of us victors at his expense.

The alternative of course is MH reading this, and completely disregarding that first paragraph, call me predictable and cute, say that he wins because we are actively posting, and stick around because he's stubborn like the rest of us here, but just like clowns, he's sad on the inside, so I sympathize.

so now that I've presented these 2 outcomes, which is more likely, OR which will happen first? =]</P>

ny06
12-09-2010, 11:13 AM
Carl Crawford.</P>


7 year 142 million dollars</P>


LOL</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>Money well spent</FONT></P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 11:14 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>



</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </P>





now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
</P>


If you want to call Carl Crawford a mercenary, I will agree 100%. So is Drew. Please go back and read my posts last season. i have always said that you have to sign free agents to win in MLB. My complaint with the Yankees is that they were desperate and signed the three top FA's in that years market. If the Sox sign Lee then we will talk.</P>


CC's agent had said that he wanted to play on the west coast, so the Yankees offered so much more than he could get anywhere else, that he couldn't refuse.</P>


Do I like that the Yankees and Sox seem to get all these players? No. Should Crawford have stayed in TB? Yes. That would have been better for baseball. </P>


But I'm a Sox fan and this guy is gunna where our uniform for the next 7 years. As a fan of the Sox I'm happy. As a lover of baseball, this is DEFINATELY not a good thing.</P>


Yes I know I spelled "where" wrong.</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 11:15 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </p>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</p>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</p>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</p>


so if you dont think hes worth that kind of money why are you trying to justify it? and now youre saying your outfield sucked and now that crawford is there its now outstanding? kind of a stretch, no?
crawfords good doont get me wrong, but in this case matts right. id rather have a gardener who can do pretty much everything crawford does except hit bangers at a fraction of the cost. your team just did exactly what the yanks do, but now that your team has done it, "I dont really care that they spent that kind of money" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how convenient.
and lastly no one cares how "loyal" redsox fans are except the redsox and their obnoxious fans.

</p>


No player is worth the money they make. If your goal is to win, than he is worth the money. If your goal is to earn an income for the team in excess of that salary as a product of the signing, thats up to the Red Sox accountants.</p>


And the Gardener thing is a joke. You guys are kidding yourselves with that one. He's a glorified triple A player. What do you think he would command on the FA market?</p>


</p>


</p>http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gardnbr01.shtml
his numbers are pretty good for his first full year mh. stop lying. his batting average was over 300 until mid aug when he got hurt. hes worth anywhere between 2-5 million a year imo. he young and has tons of upside. you over paid. you got "pavanooooooed" lol

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 11:20 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>


No one is worth 140MM. What kind of dumb question is that?</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. The Red Sox fans are the most loyal in baseball and our team generates plenty of income to support that contract. We will pass 700 consecutive sellouts this year. </P>


The point is that we had a huge hole in our outfield and our lineup and now both are outstanding. Crawford is perfect for Fenway and he has a rep as a very hard worker. The fans will love him.</P>


Ellsbury, Pedroia, Crawford, Yuke, Gonzalez, Popi is a hell of a top 6.</P>


Our starting rotation is awesome. Now we need to work on the bullpen.</P>


so if you dont think hes worth that kind of money why are you trying to justify it? and now youre saying your outfield sucked and now that crawford is there its now outstanding? kind of a stretch, no?
crawfords good doont get me wrong, but in this case matts right. id rather have a gardener who can do pretty much everything crawford does except hit bangers at a fraction of the cost. your team just did exactly what the yanks do, but now that your team has done it, "I dont really care that they spent that kind of money" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how convenient.
and lastly no one cares how "loyal" redsox fans are except the redsox and their obnoxious fans.

</P>


No player is worth the money they make. If your goal is to win, than he is worth the money. If your goal is to earn an income for the team in excess of that salary as a product of the signing, thats up to the Red Sox accountants.</P>


And the Gardener thing is a joke. You guys are kidding yourselves with that one. He's a glorified triple A player. What do you think he would command on the FA market?</P>


</P>


</P>


http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gardnbr01.shtml
his numbers are pretty good for his first full year mh. stop lying. his batting average was over 300 until mid aug when he got hurt. hes worth anywhere between 2-5 million a year imo. he young and has tons of upside. you over paid. you got "pavanooooooed" lol
</P>


A "Pavano" would be to overpay for a guy who had one good year. they paid the price for that. This guy is a proven player with a lot of playoff experience. He also was a Sox killer that we don't have to deal with. By the way, I like Carl Pavano because my boss coached him in little league in Southington, CT.</P>


$142MM is rediculous from a financial standpoint.</P>


Its a great move from a baseball standpoint.</P>


Its going to help make our team very formidable. </P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 11:25 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>



</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </p>





now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
</p>


If you want to call Carl Crawford a mercenary, I will agree 100%. So is Drew. Please go back and read my posts last season. i have always said that you have to sign free agents to win in MLB. My complaint with the Yankees is that they were desperate and signed the three top FA's in that years market. If the Sox sign Lee then we will talk.</p>


CC's agent had said that he wanted to play on the west coast, so the Yankees offered so much more than he could get anywhere else, that he couldn't refuse.</p>


Do I like that the Yankees and Sox seem to get all these players? No. Should Crawford have stayed in TB? Yes. That would have been better for baseball. </p>


But I'm a Sox fan and this guy is gunna where our uniform for the next 7 years. As a fan of the Sox I'm happy. As a lover of baseball, this is DEFINATELY not a good thing.</p>


Yes I know I spelled "where" wrong.</p>

pappy it doesn't matter. Don't backtrack and justify and tweek. Be real about it. Your whole argument was spending money. You already had 2nd highest payroll and KILLED the yanks for what they do. "BUY CHAMPIONSHIPS", isn't that how u put it?

Bottom line is you guys currently have the highest payroll you've ever had AND you still have to give A Gonz a new contract, plus I hear your not done in FA. I dont mind that u guys do it at all, i take issue with this and ur reaction.

To word it as "I dont really care they spend the money", makes u a hypocrit. Because you sure as hell care when the yankees do it and you take on the argument "THAT ITS UNFAIR TO THE REST OF THE LEAGUE", but how quickly it was justified mere minutes after u got Crawford.

Again, very disappointed in you.

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 11:31 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>



</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </P>





now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
</P>


If you want to call Carl Crawford a mercenary, I will agree 100%. So is Drew. Please go back and read my posts last season. i have always said that you have to sign free agents to win in MLB. My complaint with the Yankees is that they were desperate and signed the three top FA's in that years market. If the Sox sign Lee then we will talk.</P>


CC's agent had said that he wanted to play on the west coast, so the Yankees offered so much more than he could get anywhere else, that he couldn't refuse.</P>


Do I like that the Yankees and Sox seem to get all these players? No. Should Crawford have stayed in TB? Yes. That would have been better for baseball. </P>


But I'm a Sox fan and this guy is gunna where our uniform for the next 7 years. As a fan of the Sox I'm happy. As a lover of baseball, this is DEFINATELY not a good thing.</P>


Yes I know I spelled "where" wrong.</P>




pappy it doesn't matter. Don't backtrack and justify and tweek. Be real about it. Your whole argument was spending money. You already had 2nd highest payroll and KILLED the yanks for what they do. "BUY CHAMPIONSHIPS", isn't that how u put it?

Bottom line is you guys currently have the highest payroll AND you still have to give A Gonz a new contract, plus I hear your not done in FA. I dont mind that u guys do it at all, i take issue with this and ur reaction.

To word it as "I dont really care they spend the money", makes u a hypocrit. Because you sure as hell care when the yankees do it and you take on the argument "THAT ITS UNFAIR TO THE REST OF THE LEAGUE", but how quickly it was justified mere minutes after u got Crawford.

Again, very disappointed in you.
</P>


They are second and will stay that way. And even though they are second, they were still far far behind the Yankees. </P>


They aren't done because they are looking for bullpen help. Don't expect any more big time signings.</P>


And please don't try to compare the Tex ($160MM), CC ($160MM) and Burnett($85MM, talk about being "Pavano'd") signings within a few weeks to this.</P>


If we sign Lee, than you have an argument. Until then, lets see if Posada can contain Crawford on the basepaths.</P>


The Sox usually have one big signing per year. This was it.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 11:37 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>



</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </p>





now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
</p>


If you want to call Carl Crawford a mercenary, I will agree 100%. So is Drew. Please go back and read my posts last season. i have always said that you have to sign free agents to win in MLB. My complaint with the Yankees is that they were desperate and signed the three top FA's in that years market. If the Sox sign Lee then we will talk.</p>


CC's agent had said that he wanted to play on the west coast, so the Yankees offered so much more than he could get anywhere else, that he couldn't refuse.</p>


Do I like that the Yankees and Sox seem to get all these players? No. Should Crawford have stayed in TB? Yes. That would have been better for baseball. </p>


But I'm a Sox fan and this guy is gunna where our uniform for the next 7 years. As a fan of the Sox I'm happy. As a lover of baseball, this is DEFINATELY not a good thing.</p>


Yes I know I spelled "where" wrong.</p>




pappy it doesn't matter. Don't backtrack and justify and tweek. Be real about it. Your whole argument was spending money. You already had 2nd highest payroll and KILLED the yanks for what they do. "BUY CHAMPIONSHIPS", isn't that how u put it?

Bottom line is you guys currently have the highest payroll AND you still have to give A Gonz a new contract, plus I hear your not done in FA. I dont mind that u guys do it at all, i take issue with this and ur reaction.

To word it as "I dont really care they spend the money", makes u a hypocrit. Because you sure as hell care when the yankees do it and you take on the argument "THAT ITS UNFAIR TO THE REST OF THE LEAGUE", but how quickly it was justified mere minutes after u got Crawford.

Again, very disappointed in you.
</p>


They are second and will stay that way. And even though they are second, they were still far far behind the Yankees. </p>


They aren't done because they are looking for bullpen help. Don't expect any more big time signings.</p>


And please don't try to compare the Tex ($160MM), CC ($160MM) and Burnett($85MM, talk about being "Pavano'd") signings within a few weeks to this.</p>


If we sign Lee, than you have an argument. Until then, lets see if Posada can contain Crawford on the basepaths.</p>


The Sox usually have one big signing per year. This was it.</p>

we'll talk once FA is over and the total cap numbers are out

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 11:39 AM
Will Peyton throw a pick tonight?

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 11:42 AM
Will Peyton throw a pick tonight?no......maybe........probably.

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 11:44 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</P>



</P>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </P>





now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
</P>


If you want to call Carl Crawford a mercenary, I will agree 100%. So is Drew. Please go back and read my posts last season. i have always said that you have to sign free agents to win in MLB. My complaint with the Yankees is that they were desperate and signed the three top FA's in that years market. If the Sox sign Lee then we will talk.</P>


CC's agent had said that he wanted to play on the west coast, so the Yankees offered so much more than he could get anywhere else, that he couldn't refuse.</P>


Do I like that the Yankees and Sox seem to get all these players? No. Should Crawford have stayed in TB? Yes. That would have been better for baseball. </P>


But I'm a Sox fan and this guy is gunna where our uniform for the next 7 years. As a fan of the Sox I'm happy. As a lover of baseball, this is DEFINATELY not a good thing.</P>


Yes I know I spelled "where" wrong.</P>




pappy it doesn't matter. Don't backtrack and justify and tweek. Be real about it. Your whole argument was spending money. You already had 2nd highest payroll and KILLED the yanks for what they do. "BUY CHAMPIONSHIPS", isn't that how u put it?

Bottom line is you guys currently have the highest payroll AND you still have to give A Gonz a new contract, plus I hear your not done in FA. I dont mind that u guys do it at all, i take issue with this and ur reaction.

To word it as "I dont really care they spend the money", makes u a hypocrit. Because you sure as hell care when the yankees do it and you take on the argument "THAT ITS UNFAIR TO THE REST OF THE LEAGUE", but how quickly it was justified mere minutes after u got Crawford.

Again, very disappointed in you.
</P>


They are second and will stay that way. And even though they are second, they were still far far behind the Yankees. </P>


They aren't done because they are looking for bullpen help. Don't expect any more big time signings.</P>


And please don't try to compare the Tex ($160MM), CC ($160MM) and Burnett($85MM, talk about being "Pavano'd") signings within a few weeks to this.</P>


If we sign Lee, than you have an argument. Until then, lets see if Posada can contain Crawford on the basepaths.</P>


The Sox usually have one big signing per year. This was it.</P>




we'll talk once FA is over and the total cap numbers are out
</P>


Our ability to spend is a direct refection of the support of our fans in a much smaller market than NY.</P>


Red Sox fans go to the games, and watch the games on TV in numbers unparralelled when compared to the size of the market.</P>


Pizz may think we're obnoxious, but we support our team like no ther fans in America.</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 11:45 AM
Will Peyton throw a pick tonight?</P>


Yes but it will be called back due to a Finnigan late hit.</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 11:47 AM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>



</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </p>





now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
</p>


If you want to call Carl Crawford a mercenary, I will agree 100%. So is Drew. Please go back and read my posts last season. i have always said that you have to sign free agents to win in MLB. My complaint with the Yankees is that they were desperate and signed the three top FA's in that years market. If the Sox sign Lee then we will talk.</p>


CC's agent had said that he wanted to play on the west coast, so the Yankees offered so much more than he could get anywhere else, that he couldn't refuse.</p>


Do I like that the Yankees and Sox seem to get all these players? No. Should Crawford have stayed in TB? Yes. That would have been better for baseball. </p>


But I'm a Sox fan and this guy is gunna where our uniform for the next 7 years. As a fan of the Sox I'm happy. As a lover of baseball, this is DEFINATELY not a good thing.</p>


Yes I know I spelled "where" wrong.</p>




pappy it doesn't matter. Don't backtrack and justify and tweek. Be real about it. Your whole argument was spending money. You already had 2nd highest payroll and KILLED the yanks for what they do. "BUY CHAMPIONSHIPS", isn't that how u put it?

Bottom line is you guys currently have the highest payroll AND you still have to give A Gonz a new contract, plus I hear your not done in FA. I dont mind that u guys do it at all, i take issue with this and ur reaction.

To word it as "I dont really care they spend the money", makes u a hypocrit. Because you sure as hell care when the yankees do it and you take on the argument "THAT ITS UNFAIR TO THE REST OF THE LEAGUE", but how quickly it was justified mere minutes after u got Crawford.

Again, very disappointed in you.
</p>


They are second and will stay that way. And even though they are second, they were still far far behind the Yankees. </p>


They aren't done because they are looking for bullpen help. Don't expect any more big time signings.</p>


And please don't try to compare the Tex ($160MM), CC ($160MM) and Burnett($85MM, talk about being "Pavano'd") signings within a few weeks to this.</p>


If we sign Lee, than you have an argument. Until then, lets see if Posada can contain Crawford on the basepaths.</p>


The Sox usually have one big signing per year. This was it.</p>




we'll talk once FA is over and the total cap numbers are out
</p>


Our ability to spend is a direct refection of the support of our fans in a much smaller market than NY.</p>


Red Sox fans go to the games, and watch the games on TV in numbers unparralelled when compared to the size of the market.</p>


Pizz may think we're obnoxious, but we support our team like no ther fans in America.</p>what rubbish.............boooooooo pappyyyyy boooooooooooooooo

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 11:47 AM
Pizz may think we're obnoxious, but we support our team like no ther fans in America.</P>


Dezz said that today. I don't mention it because I already know youre all obnoxious.

Philly is worse of course...but thats no worry of any of us.</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 11:50 AM
Our ability to spend is a direct refection of the support of our fans in a much smaller market than NY.


Red Sox fans go to the games, and watch the games on TV in numbers unparralelled when compared to the size of the market.</P>


those appear to be straight opinions...</P>


so....what else ya got?!??</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 11:51 AM
Pizz may think we're obnoxious, but we support our team like no ther fans in America.</p>


Dezz said that today. I don't mention it because I already know youre all obnoxious.

Philly is worse of course...but thats no worry of any of us.</p>yeaaa get your zz bros right

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 11:52 AM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>

im so glad im ignored.

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 11:55 AM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 12:00 PM
lol rex ryan buried jet-pats game(slaughter) ball.

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 12:04 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 12:08 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</p>

im so glad im ignored.continuing from yesterday......girls will also do pretty much anything for attention, while most guys are low key and dont like attention [:O]

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 12:15 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


*</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</p>

im so glad im ignored.continuing from yesterday......girls will also do pretty much anything for attention, while most guys are low key and dont like attention [:O]


shut uppppppp. its annoying when i ask a question and not ONE person can repsond. lol not to mention a football question on a football message boards. lol

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 12:17 PM
i see the Sox are building a allstar lineup.. i don't blame them when you are in the same Div as the Jays you gotta do what you gotta do..

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 12:17 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol
What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect?

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 12:20 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol
What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect?
no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :)

anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN.

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 12:21 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</p>

im so glad im ignored.continuing from yesterday......girls will also do pretty much anything for attention, while most guys are low key and dont like attention [:O]


shut uppppppp. its annoying when i ask a question and not ONE person can repsond. lol not to mention a football question on a football message boards. lolteasing of course. everyone was pretty focused on mhs hypocrisy and him caught in a pickle.

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 12:25 PM
i see the Sox are building a allstar lineup.. i don't blame them when you are in the same Div as the Jays you gotta do what you gotta do..[:)] whats batistas contract look like?

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 12:26 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol
What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect?
no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :)

anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN.
That is quite a broad statement.

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 12:29 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol
What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect?
no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :)

anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN.
That is quite a broad statement.

your just scuuuuuuuurred

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 12:29 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.continuing from yesterday......girls will also do pretty much anything for attention, while most guys are low key and dont like attention [:O]
shut uppppppp. its annoying when i ask a question and not ONE person can repsond. lol not to mention a football question on a football message boards. lolteasing of course. everyone was pretty focused on mhs hypocrisy and him caught in a pickle.
</P>


Morehead is caught in no pickle. My team has one big signing per season. this is it. Its no big deal.</P>


Last year it was Lackey. You guys are making too big a deal over this. you're all scrambling to discredit Crawford and it makes no sense. I've never heard anyone say the kid isn't an outstanding player.</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 12:33 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>


lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect? no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :) anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN. That is quite a broad statement. your just scuuuuuuuurred</P>


Flacco and Boldin against Houston might get you 50 to 60 points by itself. The big ? is Brees at home. It might be a high scoring match between you too. </P>


I like Amanda a lot better however. (of course I like Amanda a lot better in general)</P>

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 12:34 PM
i see the Sox are building a allstar lineup.. i don't blame them when you are in the same Div as the Jays you gotta do what you gotta do..[:)] whats batistas contract look like?well it won't be be 140 someodd million lol.. we already have a horrible contract like that with Wells

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 12:35 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</p>


im so glad im ignored.continuing from yesterday......girls will also do pretty much anything for attention, while most guys are low key and dont like attention [:O]
shut uppppppp. its annoying when i ask a question and not ONE person can repsond. lol not to mention a football question on a football message boards. lolteasing of course. everyone was pretty focused on mhs hypocrisy and him caught in a pickle.
</p>


Morehead is caught in no pickle. My team has one big signing per season. this is it. Its no big deal.</p>


Last year it was Lackey. You guys are making too big a deal over this. you're all scrambling to discredit Crawford and it makes no sense. I've never heard anyone say the kid isn't an outstanding player.</p>no no no. we were scrambling to discredit you and your hypocritical baseball views. and thats cause no one thinks hes not and outstanding player, he just not worth that much or even half of that imo. you are the pickle[:D]

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 12:36 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</P>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</P>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 12:38 PM
Last year it was Lackey. You guys are making too big a deal over this. you're all scrambling to discredit Crawford and it makes no sense. I've never heard anyone say the kid isn't an outstanding player.</P>


anyone who watches baseball knows that the lackey signing was a"oh ****, we didnt get anyone!" move
Nobody is discrediting Crawford(thoughI don't put him in the upper echelon of players)....but I'm openly insulting the contract, and saying he is not worth it...I'm also glad it was boston because A) we dont need him and B) your excuses will be running thin ;)</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 12:39 PM
pappy. honestly. do you think crawford is worth 140 mill? if so why?
</p>



</p>


I really don't care that they spent that kind of money. </p>





now i've really just lost respect for u out of all the baseball convos we've had.

Your core belief in it all and u come out and say that. I will not be talking baseball with u no more seeing as how u've gone back and your main point about the destruction of baseball..


in a real way, i am disappointed with you.
</p>


If you want to call Carl Crawford a mercenary, I will agree 100%. So is Drew. Please go back and read my posts last season. i have always said that you have to sign free agents to win in MLB. My complaint with the Yankees is that they were desperate and signed the three top FA's in that years market. If the Sox sign Lee then we will talk.</p>


CC's agent had said that he wanted to play on the west coast, so the Yankees offered so much more than he could get anywhere else, that he couldn't refuse.</p>


Do I like that the Yankees and Sox seem to get all these players? No. Should Crawford have stayed in TB? Yes. That would have been better for baseball. </p>


But I'm a Sox fan and this guy is gunna where our uniform for the next 7 years. As a fan of the Sox I'm happy. As a lover of baseball, this is DEFINATELY not a good thing.</p>


Yes I know I spelled "where" wrong.</p>




pappy it doesn't matter. Don't backtrack and justify and tweek. Be real about it. Your whole argument was spending money. You already had 2nd highest payroll and KILLED the yanks for what they do. "BUY CHAMPIONSHIPS", isn't that how u put it?

Bottom line is you guys currently have the highest payroll AND you still have to give A Gonz a new contract, plus I hear your not done in FA. I dont mind that u guys do it at all, i take issue with this and ur reaction.

To word it as "I dont really care they spend the money", makes u a hypocrit. Because you sure as hell care when the yankees do it and you take on the argument "THAT ITS UNFAIR TO THE REST OF THE LEAGUE", but how quickly it was justified mere minutes after u got Crawford.

Again, very disappointed in you.
</p>


They are second and will stay that way. And even though they are second, they were still far far behind the Yankees. </p>


They aren't done because they are looking for bullpen help. Don't expect any more big time signings.</p>


And please don't try to compare the Tex ($160MM), CC ($160MM) and Burnett($85MM, talk about being "Pavano'd") signings within a few weeks to this.</p>


If we sign Lee, than you have an argument. Until then, lets see if Posada can contain Crawford on the basepaths.</p>


The Sox usually have one big signing per year. This was it.</p>




we'll talk once FA is over and the total cap numbers are out
</p>


Our ability to spend is a direct refection of the support of our fans in a much smaller market than NY.</p>


Red Sox fans go to the games, and watch the games on TV in numbers unparralelled when compared to the size of the market.</p>


Pizz may think we're obnoxious, but we support our team like no ther fans in America.</p>

lol so that somehow makes it more okay for u to spend money than the yankees to spend money?

You really have the worst arguments and to see you flip flop like a politician is pretty pathetic.

i am serious when i say i am genuinly disappointed in your responses today

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 12:44 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</p>

im so glad im ignored.

not for me i got a bye

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 12:44 PM
lol rex ryan buried jet-pats game(slaughter) ball.


lol thats funny

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 12:47 PM
lol so that somehow makes it more okay for u to spend money than the yankees to spend money?

You really have the worst arguments and to see you flip flop like a politician is pretty pathetic.
</P>


he's using the logic that we use "we make the most, so spending isnt a problem" except that he forgot we always say that.
So, yes....now it's ok I guess.</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 12:48 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol
What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect?
no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :)

anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN.
That is quite a broad statement.

your just scuuuuuuuurred
I was talking about you saying I cry about everything. Whatever though....

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 12:52 PM
I was talking about you saying I cry about everything. Whatever though....</P>


whatever, crybaby!</P>

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 12:52 PM
lol so that somehow makes it more okay for u to spend money than the yankees to spend money?

You really have the worst arguments and to see you flip flop like a politician is pretty pathetic.
</P>


he's using the logic that we use "we make the most, so spending isnt a problem" except that he forgot we always say that.
So, yes....now it's ok I guess.</P>so i guess Lee will be given a blank cheque to sign eh? you boys will need another Lefty to have a chance against that lineup..

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 12:53 PM
i see the Sox are building a allstar lineup.. i don't blame them when you are in the same Div as the Jays you gotta do what you gotta do..

lmao

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 12:54 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</p>


im so glad im ignored.continuing from yesterday......girls will also do pretty much anything for attention, while most guys are low key and dont like attention [:O]
shut uppppppp. its annoying when i ask a question and not ONE person can repsond. lol not to mention a football question on a football message boards. lolteasing of course. everyone was pretty focused on mhs hypocrisy and him caught in a pickle.
</p>


Morehead is caught in no pickle. My team has one big signing per season. this is it. Its no big deal.</p>


Last year it was Lackey. You guys are making too big a deal over this. you're all scrambling to discredit Crawford and it makes no sense. I've never heard anyone say the kid isn't an outstanding player.</p>

whatever helps u avoid the reality of your hypocracy

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 12:54 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


*</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</p>

im so glad im ignored.

not for me i got a bye

Good job in the scrub league. Maybe you can bring yous A game next year. Lol jk

H didow you do in your dads league

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 12:55 PM
Coach Jeff Fisher said that he's not sure whether Britt or Randy Moss will start Thursday?!?!?</P>


can they both not start? i don't get it.. </P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 12:56 PM
so i guess Lee will be given a blank cheque to sign eh? you boys will need another Lefty to have a chance against that lineup.. </P>


well, I feel we give him the best of what he wants. Great chance to get back to the series, win his first ring, make as much as the best aces in baseball, and play with his close friend CC. I think the offer on the table right now is way too much money, but I cant argue about him making 2 WS appearances in a row, and his stats speak for himself. Although I'm not a huge fan of his, I recognize the need for another pitcher, and having a "Cliff Lee" never hurts. lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 12:57 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</p>

im so glad im ignored.

not for me i got a bye

Good job in the scrub league. Maybe you can bring yous A game next year. Lol jk

H didow you do in your dads league

lol **** off

SAME MONEY *****HHHHHH

PEyton Manning officially ruined my season... god i never thought i'd ever say those words

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 12:58 PM
Coach Jeff Fisher said that he's not sure whether Britt or Randy Moss will start Thursday?!?!?</p>


can they both not start? i don't get it.. </p>

i think they typically run alot of 1 WR sets

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 12:58 PM
Coach Jeff Fisher said that he's not sure whether Britt or Randy Moss will start Thursday?!?!?</P>


can they both not start? i don't get it.. </P>


</P>


I think they both play "slot X" or something. I think thats the term, rt?</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 12:59 PM
so i guess Lee will be given a blank cheque to sign eh? you boys will need another Lefty to have a chance against that lineup.. </p>


well, I feel we give him the best of what he wants. Great chance to get back to the series, win his first ring, make as much as the best aces in baseball, and play with his close friend CC. I think the offer on the table right now is way too much money, but I cant argue about him making 2 WS appearances in a row, and his stats speak for himself. Although I'm not a huge fan of his, I recognize the need for another pitcher, and having a "Cliff Lee" never hurts. lol</p>

i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 01:00 PM
I was talking about you saying I cry about everything. Whatever though....</P>


whatever, crybaby!</P>
Real professional

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 01:00 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</p>

im so glad im ignored.

not for me i got a bye

Good job in the scrub league. Maybe you can bring yous A game next year. Lol jk

H didow you do in your dads league

lol **** off

SAME MONEY *****HHHHHH

PEyton Manning officially ruined my season... god i never thought i'd ever say those words
yea peyton is ruining my cousins dreams.

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 01:01 PM
so i guess Lee will be given a blank cheque to sign eh? you boys will need another Lefty to have a chance against that lineup.. </p>


well, I feel we give him the best of what he wants. Great chance to get back to the series, win his first ring, make as much as the best aces in baseball, and play with his close friend CC. I think the offer on the table right now is way too much money, but I cant argue about him making 2 WS appearances in a row, and his stats speak for himself. Although I'm not a huge fan of his, I recognize the need for another pitcher, and having a "Cliff Lee" never hurts. lol</p>

i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke
no way. were stuck with aj.....[:'(]

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 01:04 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>


lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect? no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :) anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN. That is quite a broad statement. your just scuuuuuuuurred</P>


* Flacco and Boldin against Houston might get you 50 to 60 points by itself. The big ? is Brees at home.* It might be a high scoring match between you too.* </P>


I like Amanda a lot better however.* (of course I like Amanda a lot better in general)</P>

lol its gonna be a good one!!! hoepfully the woman comes out on top...........

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 01:04 PM
Coach Jeff Fisher said that he's not sure whether Britt or Randy Moss will start Thursday?!?!?</P>


can they both not start? i don't get it.. </P>

i think they typically run alot of 1 WR sets
well that would make sense than.. so is everyone else thinking Moss is retiring at end of year?

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 01:04 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


*</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</p>

im so glad im ignored.

not for me i got a bye

Good job in the scrub league. Maybe you can bring yous A game next year. Lol jk

H didow you do in your dads league

lol **** off

SAME MONEY *****HHHHHH

PEyton Manning officially ruined my season... god i never thought i'd ever say those words

Lol no ****. I have him in another league. You like Orton @ Arizona out Peyton @ Tenn?

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 01:04 PM
I was talking about you saying I cry about everything. Whatever though....</P>


whatever, crybaby!</P>


Real professional</P>


lol, what?!? i forgot my red text!

I really dont even care what you 2 were arguing about =]</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 01:04 PM
Coach Jeff Fisher said that he's not sure whether Britt or Randy Moss will start Thursday?!?!?</p>


can they both not start? i don't get it.. </p>


</p>


I think they both play "slot X" or something. I think thats the term, rt?</p>it funny, they looked strong out of the gate, picked up moss. their offense has been tuuurrible minus cj

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 01:05 PM
i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke
</P>


I think we're stuck with this jobber till his contract expires. he was signed b/c of his record agaisnt division teams, and he cant even beat the royals FFS</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 01:07 PM
hopefully the woman comes out on top...........</P>


that's another way in which I would let you win...no need for me to bedoing the extra work anyway.
let me know your final decision. k, good talk.</P>

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 01:08 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</P>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</P>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</P>


</P>


</P>


MMB???</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 01:08 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


*</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy left*too but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>


lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect? no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :) anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN. That is quite a broad statement. your just scuuuuuuuurred</P>


* Flacco and Boldin against Houston might get you 50 to 60 points by itself. The big ? is Brees at home.* It might be a high scoring match between you too.* </P>


I like Amanda a lot better however.* (of course I like Amanda a lot better in general)</P>

lol its gonna be a good one!!! hoepfully the woman comes out on top...........
If it was a bean dip contest you would have it

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 01:11 PM
i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke
</P>


I think we're stuck with this jobber till his contract expires. he was signed b/c of his record agaisnt division teams, and he cant even beat the royals FFS</P>or the Jays [:)]

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 01:12 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>


lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect? no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :) anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN. That is quite a broad statement. your just scuuuuuuuurred I was talking about you saying I cry about everything. Whatever though....</P>


omg seeeeeeeeeeee- lol you do lando. its ok tho i love you very veyr much!!</P>

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 01:13 PM
Coach Jeff Fisher said that he's not sure whether Britt or Randy Moss will start Thursday?!?!?</P>


can they both not start? i don't get it.. </P>


</P>


I think they both play "slot X" or something. I think thats the term, rt?</P>it funny, they looked strong out of the gate, picked up moss. their offense has been tuuurrible minus cj
CJ's going to have another no show game tonight.. against another weak defence..

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 01:14 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</P>


</P>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</P>


im so glad im ignored.</P>


i love you...</P>


what do i get for letting you win?</P>


lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect? no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :) anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN. That is quite a broad statement. your just scuuuuuuuurred</P>


Flacco and Boldin against Houston might get you 50 to 60 points by itself. The big ? is Brees at home. It might be a high scoring match between you too. </P>


I like Amanda a lot better however. (of course I like Amanda a lot better in general)</P>


lol its gonna be a good one!!! hoepfully the woman comes out on top........... If it was a bean dip contest you would have it</P>


[{]</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 01:15 PM
Anyone think the Eagles lose this weekend? I give it about a 5% chance

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 01:18 PM
morning loves!!!!!!! fantasy playoffs officially start today!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!</p>


</p>


what do you guys think of Pitt in suicide this week?? ughhhh i have Indy lefttoo but they scare the **** out of me.</p>


im so glad im ignored.</p>


i love you...</p>


what do i get for letting you win?</p>


lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol What are you talking about? Just cause I said you got lucky twice? You were right on my ***, what do you expect? no just cause you cry about everything that does not benefit you in FF. but i love you so its ok... :) anyhooo... i will see you in the playoffs and i will take your *** down. AGAIN. That is quite a broad statement. your just scuuuuuuuurred</p>


Flacco and Boldin against Houston might get you 50 to 60 points by itself. The big ? is Brees at home. It might be a high scoring match between you too. </p>


I like Amanda a lot better however. (of course I like Amanda a lot better in general)</p>

lol its gonna be a good one!!! hoepfully the woman comes out on top...........

in my experience, the woman always cums on top

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 01:19 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</p>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</p>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</p>


</p>


</p>


MMB???</p>

excellent answer

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 01:21 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</P>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</P>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</P>


</P>


</P>


MMB???</P>


</P>


well, im going to either to take that as a burn on me...or...you just arent picking up what im putting down..lol</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 01:22 PM
Coach Jeff Fisher said that he's not sure whether Britt or Randy Moss will start Thursday?!?!?</p>


can they both not start? i don't get it.. </p>


</p>


I think they both play "slot X" or something. I think thats the term, rt?</p>it funny, they looked strong out of the gate, picked up moss. their offense has been tuuurrible minus cj
CJ's going to have another no show game tonight.. against another weak defence..yea and even hes tailing off. he only had 7 carries against the texans and 13 agaisnt the jags. the last 2 games the titans have put a whooping 6 points. lol

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 01:24 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</P>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</P>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</P>


</P>


</P>


MMB???</P>




excellent answer
</P>


ive been hanging out with ya too much [;)] your rubbing off on me..................</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 01:24 PM
Last year it was Lackey. You guys are making too big a deal over this. you're all scrambling to discredit Crawford and it makes no sense. I've never heard anyone say the kid isn't an outstanding player.</P>


anyone who watches baseball knows that the lackey signing was a"oh ****, we didnt get anyone!" move
Nobody is discrediting Crawford(thoughI don't put him in the upper echelon of players)....but I'm openly insulting the contract, and saying he is not worth it...I'm also glad it was boston because A) we dont need him and B) your excuses will be running thin ;)</P>


</P>


There is no question that lackey was a dissappointment last season. We'll see how that signing works out in the long run.</P>


Beckett had a mediocre first season with the socks and then was tremendous in his second.</P>


Again, for all of you who don't like my attitude and call me a hypocrite or other things. I just don't know what you expect here. This is the Sox one big signing this year. they did this essentially every year. they never spend the kind of money the Yankees do in the FA market. </P>


This signing was a pleasant surprise, but Its not that big a deal. </P>


Whats dissapointing from you guys is this "he's all legs", or "Gardener is better" nonsense.</P>


The fact is that he's a really good player who will help our team tremendously. Its not like we gobbled up the top three FA's on the market.</P>


Come see me if we do.</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 01:24 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</p>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</p>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</p>


</p>


</p>


MMB???</p>


</p>


well, im going to either to take that as a burn on me...or...you just arent picking up what im putting down..lol</p>

better go get the aloe

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 01:24 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</P>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</P>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</P>


</P>


</P>


MMB???</P>


</P>


well, im going to either to take that as a burn on me...or...you just arent picking up what im putting down..lol</P>


</P>


</P>


it was a joke lol</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 01:27 PM
i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke
</P>


I think we're stuck with this jobber till his contract expires. he was signed b/c of his record agaisnt division teams, and he cant even beat the royals FFS</P>


</P>


This is what happens when you overpay for a head case. This is the same guy who walked out on his team in FLA two weeks before the season was over.</P>


No one wants him unless the Yankees arte willing to pay his salary.</P>

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 01:27 PM
Coach Jeff Fisher said that he's not sure whether Britt or Randy Moss will start Thursday?!?!?</P>


can they both not start? i don't get it.. </P>


</P>


I think they both play "slot X" or something. I think thats the term, rt?</P>it funny, they looked strong out of the gate, picked up moss. their offense has been tuuurrible minus cj
CJ's going to have another no show game tonight.. against another weak defence..yea and even hes tailing off. he only had 7 carries against the texans and 13 agaisnt the jags. the last 2 games the titans have put a whooping 6 points. lol
Its all Vince Youngs fault.. and its not because he's a good QB

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 01:28 PM
it was a joke lol</P>


</P>


it's ok...i'm good at picking up the clues...

I will stop</P>


[:'(]</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 01:37 PM
i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke
</p>


I think we're stuck with this jobber till his contract expires. he was signed b/c of his record agaisnt division teams, and he cant even beat the royals FFS</p>


</p>


This is what happens when you overpay for a head case. This is the same guy who walked out on his team in FLA two weeks before the season was over.</p>


No one wants him unless the Yankees arte willing to pay his salary.</p>

i at least agree with something

i didn't like the burnett signing, but then again he was pretty good for us that first year and he helped get us a ring

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 01:40 PM
i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke
</p>


I think we're stuck with this jobber till his contract expires. he was signed b/c of his record agaisnt division teams, and he cant even beat the royals FFS</p>


</p>


This is what happens when you overpay for a head case. This is the same guy who walked out on his team in FLA two weeks before the season was over.</p>


No one wants him unless the Yankees arte willing to pay his salary.</p>hes been more than pleasant while here. its his pitching thats a problem.

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 01:41 PM
i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke
</P>


I think we're stuck with this jobber till his contract expires. he was signed b/c of his record agaisnt division teams, and he cant even beat the royals FFS</P>


</P>


This is what happens when you overpay for a head case. This is the same guy who walked out on his team in FLA two weeks before the season was over.</P>


No one wants him unless the Yankees arte willing to pay his salary.</P>




i at least agree with something

i didn't like the burnett signing, but then again he was pretty good for us that first year and he helped get us a ring
</P>


yea I just feel like there werent alot of options after we got CC...so they got Burnett too...
maybe he'll have a bounce back....if not, looks like we're paying alot for a bullpen guy...or minor leaguer.lol</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 01:44 PM
i want some type of deal to send Burnett for Greinke
</p>


I think we're stuck with this jobber till his contract expires. he was signed b/c of his record agaisnt division teams, and he cant even beat the royals FFS</p>


</p>


This is what happens when you overpay for a head case. This is the same guy who walked out on his team in FLA two weeks before the season was over.</p>


No one wants him unless the Yankees arte willing to pay his salary.</p>




i at least agree with something

i didn't like the burnett signing, but then again he was pretty good for us that first year and he helped get us a ring
</p>


yea I just feel like there werent alot of options after we got CC...so they got Burnett too...
maybe he'll have a bounce back....if not, looks like we're paying alot for a bullpen guy...or minor leaguer.lol</p>if he continues to suck, i say we give him whatevers owed and cut his ***.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 01:47 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</p>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</p>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</p>


</p>


</p>


MMB???</p>




excellent answer
</p>


your rubbing off on me..................</p>

yea but u always yelled at me when i normally did that

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 01:52 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</P>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</P>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</P>


</P>


</P>


MMB???</P>




excellent answer
</P>


your rubbing off on me..................</P>




yea but u always yelled at me when i normally did that
</P>


lol shes not good at censoring herself of words that can easily be twisted against her. its ok though, I get a kick out of it</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 01:58 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</p>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</p>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</p>


</p>


</p>


MMB???</p>




excellent answer
</p>


your rubbing off on me..................</p>




yea but u always yelled at me when i normally did that
</p>


lol shes not good at censoring herself of words that can easily be twisted against her. its ok though, I get a kick out of it</p>

and apparently i get a nut out of it

:::rimshot:::

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 02:03 PM
i ****ing hate the holidays........

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 02:15 PM
i ****ing hate the holidays........
</P>


http://www.chicksonpowertrips.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/I_****in___love_coloring_by_WhiteSt.jpg</P>

ibleedblue85
12-09-2010, 02:17 PM
lol id rather just beat you the right way so i dont have to listen to lando ***** lol</P>


well in that case...youre going down!!!</P>


unless of course youre going down, then i'll let you win maybe. but who REALLY wins in that scenario?!?</P>


</P>


</P>


MMB???</P>




excellent answer
</P>


your rubbing off on me..................</P>




yea but u always yelled at me when i normally did that
</P>


lol shes not good at censoring herself of words that can easily be twisted against her. its ok though, I get a kick out of it</P>




and apparently i get a nut out of it

:::rimshot:::
</P>


ughh i always set myself up.</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 02:23 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 02:26 PM
lol, dudes exchanging phone numbers is the most hilariously awkward conversation...to lighten the situation i had convo via workIM with my buddy JF

me - yo i forgot this weekend that i needed your number to call you to come out
JF- ahh...its 555-555-5555
me- ok cool, im 555-555-5556
Jf- k
me - FOOTBALL!!! sorry man, had to say something manly in order to make up for the potential gheyness of that interaction
JF - no doubt bro...BOOBS!
me - BEER!!! ok I think we're good now, hit you up later.</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 02:30 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be</P>


the one about the salary donation? i read it, but he confuses me so I quit half way through.</P>


while basketball is temporarily the topic, i think that as of right now, aside from my normal favorite players, Nash and Amar'e...that my new favorite player is Kevin Love. the guy is the real deal, total package. averaging more boards than ive seen since Rodman, and consistently. He's averaging 20, and 15+ and its hard to complain about any part of his game. he's not the creampuff ppl predicted, he hits big shots, and just hawks the ball. he's really something.</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 02:39 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 02:42 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.</P>


yeaaa that 2nd part screams overrated ;P</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 02:49 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be</P>


the one about the salary donation? i read it, but he confuses me so I quit half way through.</P>


while basketball is temporarily the topic, i think that as of right now, aside from my normal favorite players, Nash and Amar'e...that my new favorite player is Kevin Love. the guy is the real deal, total package. averaging more boards than ive seen since Rodman, and consistently. He's averaging 20, and 15+ and its hard to complain about any part of his game. he's not the creampuff ppl predicted, he hits big shots, and just hawks the ball. he's really something.</P>
He has 20/20

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be</P>


the one about the salary donation? i read it, but he confuses me so I quit half way through.</P>


while basketball is temporarily the topic, i think that as of right now, aside from my normal favorite players, Nash and Amar'e...that my new favorite player is Kevin Love. the guy is the real deal, total package. averaging more boards than ive seen since Rodman, and consistently. He's averaging 20, and 15+ and its hard to complain about any part of his game. he's not the creampuff ppl predicted, he hits big shots, and just hawks the ball. he's really something.</P>
He has 5 20/20 games already this year. Only one other player has done it once in the league. Lol he is amazing and best of all, he is white. Lol jk

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:01 PM
How come a team leading the division have to scramble to avoid a blackout? Poor Jaguars..all their home games but 1 were blacked out last year. Cities are dying for a team and fans don't even go in places they have them.

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:01 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be</P>


the one about the salary donation? i read it, but he confuses me so I quit half way through.</P>


while basketball is temporarily the topic, i think that as of right now, aside from my normal favorite players, Nash and Amar'e...that my new favorite player is Kevin Love. the guy is the real deal, total package. averaging more boards than ive seen since Rodman, and consistently. He's averaging 20, and 15+ and its hard to complain about any part of his game. he's not the creampuff ppl predicted, he hits big shots, and just hawks the ball. he's really something.</P>


He has 5 20/20 games already this year. Only one other player has done it once in the league. Lol he is amazing and best of all, he is white. Lol jk</P>


white guys in basketball who arent 3pt specialists or, named Steve Nash!??! GTFO!!! hahaha
</P>

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 03:06 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be</P>


the one about the salary donation? i read it, but he confuses me so I quit half way through.</P>


while basketball is temporarily the topic, i think that as of right now, aside from my normal favorite players, Nash and Amar'e...that my new favorite player is Kevin Love. the guy is the real deal, total package. averaging more boards than ive seen since Rodman, and consistently. He's averaging 20, and 15+ and its hard to complain about any part of his game. he's not the creampuff ppl predicted, he hits big shots, and just hawks the ball. he's really something.</P>


He has 5 20/20 games already this year. Only one other player has done it once in the league. Lol he is amazing and best of all, he is white. Lol jk</P>


white guys in basketball who arent 3pt specialists or, named Steve Nash!??! GTFO!!! hahaha
</P>sooo racist

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:07 PM
How come a team leading the division have to scramble to avoid a blackout? Poor Jaguars..all their home games but 1 were blacked out last year. Cities are dying for a team and fans don't even go in places they have them.</P>


yea thats awful.</P>


sports don't belong in Florida unless your city starts with MI and ends in AMI

the Rays rarely sell out unless the Yankees are in town. Yet there are so many professional sports teams there losing money every year. i dont get it.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 03:09 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

yea well i hate Kobe even more now

you know who his biggest influence on life is?

MJ ---


MICHAEL JACKSON


i guess he was following his footsteps in the hotel that night with the waitress (even tho she was a lil old for Michael's tastes)

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 03:10 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.

BOOOOOOOTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYY

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:10 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be</P>


the one about the salary donation? i read it, but he confuses me so I quit half way through.</P>


while basketball is temporarily the topic, i think that as of right now, aside from my normal favorite players, Nash and Amar'e...that my new favorite player is Kevin Love. the guy is the real deal, total package. averaging more boards than ive seen since Rodman, and consistently. He's averaging 20, and 15+ and its hard to complain about any part of his game. he's not the creampuff ppl predicted, he hits big shots, and just hawks the ball. he's really something.</P>


He has 5 20/20 games already this year. Only one other player has done it once in the league. Lol he is amazing and best of all, he is white. Lol jk</P>


white guys in basketball who arent 3pt specialists or, named Steve Nash!??! GTFO!!! hahaha
</P>sooo racist
I have a color TV

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 03:12 PM
Cities are dying for a team and fans don't even go in places they have them.you are bringing up a really upsetting issue.. stupid Gary Bettman's NHL [:@]

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:13 PM
sooo racist</P>


I'm offended that you would think i'm racist...</P>


I'm not racist...

I just hate everyone </P>


(just like Pappy taught us)</P>

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 03:16 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.

BOOOOOOOTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYY
never over 20?? this might takeVernon Wellsplace of worst contract ever..

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:16 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

yea well i hate Kobe even more now

you know who his biggest influence on life is?

MJ ---


MICHAEL JACKSON


i guess he was following his footsteps in the hotel that night with the waitress (even tho she was a lil old for Michael's tastes)

I was hoping you never saw that article. Lol

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:18 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

yea well i hate Kobe even more now

you know who his biggest influence on life is?

MJ ---


MICHAEL JACKSON


i guess he was following his footsteps in the hotel that night with the waitress (even tho she was a lil old for Michael's tastes)
I was hoping you never saw that article. Lol</P>


yea tahts just straight sad lol. there's no doubt in my mind that my mother has had the biggest influence on my life for being the strongest person ive ever known....</P>


it takes huge balls and an extremely low IQ to say that Michael Jackson is your biggest life influence. lmao @ kobe</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:20 PM
Cities are dying for a team and fans don't even go in places they have them.you are bringing up a really upsetting issue.. stupid Gary Bettman's NHL [:@]
Sorry Bandy

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 03:24 PM
Cities are dying for a team and fans don't even go in places they have them.you are bringing up a really upsetting issue.. stupid Gary Bettman's NHL [:@] Sorry Bandyits okay it wasn't your fault

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:25 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

yea well i hate Kobe even more now

you know who his biggest influence on life is?

MJ ---


MICHAEL JACKSON


i guess he was following his footsteps in the hotel that night with the waitress (even tho she was a lil old for Michael's tastes)
I was hoping you never saw that article. Lol</P>


yea tahts just straight sad lol. there's no doubt in my mind that my mother has had the biggest influence on my life for being the strongest person ive ever known....</P>


it takes huge balls and an extremely low IQ to say that Michael Jackson is your biggest life influence. lmao @ kobe</P>
Listen you ******nozzles...he never said he was his biggest life influence. He really admired his work ethic and the way he prepared on a daily basis. Kobe is the hardest working player in the league and lives to ball

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 03:28 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.

BOOOOOOOTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYY
never over 20?? this might takeVernon Wellsplace of worst contract ever..

yea but at least he steals bases...

[:#]

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:32 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

yea well i hate Kobe even more now

you know who his biggest influence on life is?

MJ ---


MICHAEL JACKSON


i guess he was following his footsteps in the hotel that night with the waitress (even tho she was a lil old for Michael's tastes)
I was hoping you never saw that article. Lol</P>


yea tahts just straight sad lol. there's no doubt in my mind that my mother has had the biggest influence on my life for being the strongest person ive ever known....</P>


it takes huge balls and an extremely low IQ to say that Michael Jackson is your biggest life influence. lmao @ kobe</P>


Listen you ******nozzles...he never said he was his biggest life influence. He really admired his work ethic and the way he prepared on a daily basis. Kobe is the hardest working player in the league and lives to ball</P>


and i put them both on the same level. MJ and Kobe are kinda like the same person to me. I hate them both as people equally.</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:32 PM
Cities are dying for a team and fans don't even go in places they have them.you are bringing up a really upsetting issue.. stupid Gary Bettman's NHL [:@] Sorry Bandyits okay it wasn't your fault
I know. But its a sensitive issue. Lol

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 03:33 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.

BOOOOOOOTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYY
never over 20?? this might takeVernon Wellsplace of worst contract ever..

yea but at least he steals bases...

[:#]
ohh well that changes everything lol

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 03:34 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

yea well i hate Kobe even more now

you know who his biggest influence on life is?

MJ ---


MICHAEL JACKSON


i guess he was following his footsteps in the hotel that night with the waitress (even tho she was a lil old for Michael's tastes)
I was hoping you never saw that article. Lol</p>


yea tahts just straight sad lol. there's no doubt in my mind that my mother has had the biggest influence on my life for being the strongest person ive ever known....</p>


it takes huge balls and an extremely low IQ to say that Michael Jackson is your biggest life influence. lmao @ kobe</p>
Listen you ******nozzles...he never said he was his biggest life influence. He really admired his work ethic and the way he prepared on a daily basis. Kobe is the hardest working player in the league and lives to ball

Lakers Homer translation:

Kobe likes touching little boys wee-wees

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:35 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

yea well i hate Kobe even more now

you know who his biggest influence on life is?

MJ ---


MICHAEL JACKSON


i guess he was following his footsteps in the hotel that night with the waitress (even tho she was a lil old for Michael's tastes)
I was hoping you never saw that article. Lol</P>


yea tahts just straight sad lol. there's no doubt in my mind that my mother has had the biggest influence on my life for being the strongest person ive ever known....</P>


it takes huge balls and an extremely low IQ to say that Michael Jackson is your biggest life influence. lmao @ kobe</P>


Listen you ******nozzles...he never said he was his biggest life influence. He really admired his work ethic and the way he prepared on a daily basis. Kobe is the hardest working player in the league and lives to ball</P>


and i put them both on the same level. MJ and Kobe are kinda like the same person.</P>
Didn't you see the video MJ & MJ for Space Jam? You know Jackson can't ball

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:39 PM
Matt, you HAVE to read the article on espn about Ron Artest. You will love it. He also changed his number this year. He is probably the closest thing to Dennis that will ever be

yea well i hate Kobe even more now

you know who his biggest influence on life is?

MJ ---


MICHAEL JACKSON


i guess he was following his footsteps in the hotel that night with the waitress (even tho she was a lil old for Michael's tastes)
I was hoping you never saw that article. Lol</p>


yea tahts just straight sad lol. there's no doubt in my mind that my mother has had the biggest influence on my life for being the strongest person ive ever known....</p>


it takes huge balls and an extremely low IQ to say that Michael Jackson is your biggest life influence. lmao @ kobe</p>
Listen you ******nozzles...he never said he was his biggest life influence. He really admired his work ethic and the way he prepared on a daily basis. Kobe is the hardest working player in the league and lives to ball

Lakers Homer translation:

Kobe likes touching little boys wee-wees

Blah blah blah. You calling me a homer. Lol shiiiiiiit

We are all homers for our favorites, except Dez

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:39 PM
Lakers Homer translation:

Kobe likes touching little boys wee-wees
</P>


if Kobe were a baseball player, he would without a doubt play for the red sox. he'd have to grow the facial hair out a bit more to compete with his registered-offender-teammates though</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:40 PM
Didn't you see the video MJ &amp; MJ for Space Jam? You know Jackson can't ball</P>


lol you quoted just as I was editing my post to make a bit more sense.</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2010, 03:43 PM
Didn't you see the video MJ & MJ for Space Jam? You know Jackson can't ball</P>


lol you quoted just as I was editing my post to make a bit more sense.</P>
Lol any Space Jam reference I can get in you can count on it

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:47 PM
Didn't you see the video MJ &amp; MJ for Space Jam? You know Jackson can't ball</P>


lol you quoted just as I was editing my post to make a bit more sense.</P>


Lol any Space Jam reference I can get in you can count on it</P>


haha i hear ya...</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 03:54 PM
Where did Morehead go??

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 03:59 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.

BOOOOOOOTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYY
never over 20?? this might takeVernon Wellsplace of worst contract ever..

yea but at least he steals bases...

[:#]
</P>


20 bucks says he hits 20 with the Red Sox this year.</P>

ny06
12-09-2010, 04:00 PM
Last year it was Lackey. You guys are making too big a deal over this. you're all scrambling to discredit Crawford and it makes no sense. I've never heard anyone say the kid isn't an outstanding player.</P>


anyone who watches baseball knows that the lackey signing was a"oh ****, we didnt get anyone!" move
Nobody is discrediting Crawford(thoughI don't put him in the upper echelon of players)....but I'm openly insulting the contract, and saying he is not worth it...I'm also glad it was boston because A) we dont need him and B) your excuses will be running thin ;)</P>


</P>


There is no question that lackey was a dissappointment last season. We'll see how that signing works out in the long run.</P>


Beckett had a mediocre first season with the socks and then was tremendous in his second.</P>


Again, for all of you who don't like my attitude and call me a hypocrite or other things. I just don't know what you expect here. This is the Sox one big signing this year. they did this essentially every year. they never spend the kind of money the Yankees do in the FA market. </P>


This signing was a pleasant surprise, but Its not that big a deal. </P>


Whats dissapointing from you guys is this "he's all legs", or "<FONT color=#0000ff>Gardener is better" nonsense</FONT>.</P>


The fact is that he's a really good player who will help our team tremendously. Its not like we gobbled up the top three FA's on the market.</P>


Come see me if we do.</P>


</P>


</P>


Who has ever said Gardner is better then Crawford?</P>


My arguement is Gardner is better then Ellsbury. </P>


And speaking about the Crawford deal, what exactly are you guys expecting from him?</P>


You just over paid for a good hitter not great. He is great on the bases, and can get you 10 triples a season. Good fielder</P>


That's like saying the Yankees will give Curtis Granderson a 7 yr deal worth 142 million. </P>


Saying your team overpaid for Crawford would be quite ovbious</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2010, 04:02 PM
Who has ever said Gardner is better then Crawford?


My arguement is Gardner is better then Ellsbury. </P>


And speaking about the Crawford deal, what exactly are you guys expecting from him?</P>


You just over paid for a good hitter not great. He is great on the bases, and can get you 10 triples a season. Good fielder</P>


That's like saying the Yankees will give Curtis Granderson a 7 yr deal worth 142 million. </P>


Saying your team overpaid for Crawford would be quite ovbious</P>


</P>


all good points, sir.
nobody said that he was better....I think DezzzR said that he would take Gardner over Crawford anyway.
</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2010, 04:10 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.

BOOOOOOOTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYY
never over 20?? this might takeVernon Wellsplace of worst contract ever..

yea but at least he steals bases...

[:#]
</p>


20 bucks says he hits 20 with the Red Sox this year.</p>

i thought pappy dont bet under any circumstance?

lawl
12-09-2010, 05:00 PM
Cody Ross &gt; Carl Crawford</P>

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 06:49 PM
Crawford is the first Red Sox player with an average salary of over 20 mil a year and its the first position player to sign a 100 mil $ contract without ever hitting 20 home runs in a season.

BOOOOOOOTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYY
never over 20?? this might takeVernon Wellsplace of worst contract ever..

yea but at least he steals bases...

[:#]
</P>


20 bucks says he hits 20 with the Red Sox this year.</P>




i thought pappy dont bet under any circumstance?


</P>


Gambling?</P>


Thats like finding money in the street.</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 06:52 PM
Who has ever said Gardner is better then Crawford?


My arguement is Gardner is better then Ellsbury. </p>


And speaking about the Crawford deal, what exactly are you guys expecting from him?</p>


You just over paid for a good hitter not great. He is great on the bases, and can get you 10 triples a season. Good fielder</p>


That's like saying the Yankees will give Curtis Granderson a 7 yr deal worth 142 million. </p>


Saying your team overpaid for Crawford would be quite ovbious</p>


</p>


all good points, sir.
nobody said that he was better....I think DezzzR said that he would take Gardner over Crawford anyway.
</p>i would cause the yanks already have a great outfield. the sox needed crawford. and over paid for him

Morehead State
12-09-2010, 06:52 PM
Cody Ross &gt; Carl Crawford</P>


</P>


OMG Lawl. Cody Ross is the very definition of mediocrity.</P>


Does the term "Dime a Dozen" ring a bell?</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2010, 06:55 PM
Last year it was Lackey. You guys are making too big a deal over this. you're all scrambling to discredit Crawford and it makes no sense. I've never heard anyone say the kid isn't an outstanding player.</p>


anyone who watches baseball knows that the lackey signing was a"oh ****, we didnt get anyone!" move
Nobody is discrediting Crawford(thoughI don't put him in the upper echelon of players)....but I'm openly insulting the contract, and saying he is not worth it...I'm also glad it was boston because A) we dont need him and B) your excuses will be running thin ;)</p>


</p>


There is no question that lackey was a dissappointment last season. We'll see how that signing works out in the long run.</p>


Beckett had a mediocre first season with the socks and then was tremendous in his second.</p>


Again, for all of you who don't like my attitude and call me a hypocrite or other things. I just don't know what you expect here. This is the Sox one big signing this year. they did this essentially every year. they never spend the kind of money the Yankees do in the FA market. </p>


This signing was a pleasant surprise, but Its not that big a deal. </p>


Whats dissapointing from you guys is this "he's all legs", or "<font color="#0000ff">Gardener is better" nonsense</font>.</p>


The fact is that he's a really good player who will help our team tremendously. Its not like we gobbled up the top three FA's on the market.</p>


Come see me if we do.</p>


</p>


</p>


Who has ever said Gardner is better then Crawford?</p>


My arguement is Gardner is better then Ellsbury. </p>


And speaking about the Crawford deal, what exactly are you guys expecting from him?</p>


You just over paid for a good hitter not great. He is great on the bases, and can get you 10 triples a season. Good fielder</p>


That's like saying the Yankees will give Curtis Granderson a 7 yr deal worth 142 million. </p>


Saying your team overpaid for Crawford would be quite ovbious</p>purfect

bandwgn86
12-09-2010, 07:02 PM
Cody Ross &gt; Carl Crawford</P>


don't know about Ross but i'd rather have V Wells lol</P>


</P>

lawl
12-10-2010, 01:10 AM
Cody Ross &gt; Carl Crawford</P>


</P>


OMG Lawl. Cody Ross is the very definition of mediocrity.</P>


Does the term "Dime a Dozen" ring a bell?</P>


</P>


It was a joke.</P>


Relax, stress at your age is not healthy.</P>

lawl
12-10-2010, 02:05 AM
Byron's kid is gonna kick my *** this week. I got a bunch of scrubs starting

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 08:31 AM
OMG Lawl.</P>


this just looks funny, coming from you. =]</P>

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 09:12 AM
Cody Ross &gt; Carl Crawford</P>


</P>


OMG Lawl. Cody Ross is the very definition of mediocrity.</P>


Does the term "Dime a Dozen" ring a bell?</P>


</P>


It was a joke.</P>


Relax, stress at your age is not healthy.</P>


</P>


Honestly, I didn't even know who he was. I had to look up his numbers.</P>

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 09:15 AM
Cody Ross &gt; Carl Crawford</P>


</P>


OMG Lawl. Cody Ross is the very definition of mediocrity.</P>


Does the term "Dime a Dozen" ring a bell?</P>


</P>


It was a joke.</P>


Relax, stress at your age is not healthy.</P>


</P>


Honestly, I didn't even know who he was. I had to look up his numbers.</P>


</P>


I remember he played for the Marlins. I assume he was traded to the Giants during last season or something? I recall him being decent at least</P>

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 09:46 AM
urrrrrrybody practiced yesterday, ****ing titties

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 09:49 AM
urrrrrrybody practiced yesterday, ****ing titties

</P>


yea I jsut hope they arent going balls to the walls and agravating injuries. ive read nothing but positive things so far though so hopefully that keeps up and these guys are close to 100%</P>


but yes...titties indeeeeeeed</P>

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 09:58 AM
urrrrrrybody practiced yesterday, ****ing titties

</p>


yea I jsut hope they arent going balls to the walls and agravating injuries. ive read nothing but positive things so far though so hopefully that keeps up and these guys are close to 100%</p>


but yes...titties indeeeeeeed</p>yea i dont take anything they say serious. its always worse than it sounds.

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 10:00 AM
urrrrrrybody practiced yesterday, ****ing titties

</P>


yea I jsut hope they arent going balls to the walls and agravating injuries. ive read nothing but positive things so far though so hopefully that keeps up and these guys are close to 100%</P>


but yes...titties indeeeeeeed</P>


yea i dont take anything they say serious. its always worse than it sounds.
</P>


prolly...</P>


i did read that Nicks was taking it easy though...being careful or w/e</P>

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 10:14 AM
urrrrrrybody practiced yesterday, ****ing titties

</p>


yea I jsut hope they arent going balls to the walls and agravating injuries. ive read nothing but positive things so far though so hopefully that keeps up and these guys are close to 100%</p>


but yes...titties indeeeeeeed</p>


yea i dont take anything they say serious. its always worse than it sounds.
</p>


prolly...</p>


i did read that Nicks was taking it easy though...being careful or w/e</p>yea hes a freak, his leg was just cut open and hes already back..

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 10:23 AM
lol, just had a former coworker come into the branch. she now owns a store across the street but does her business banking here.

So we're shooting the ****, and then shes like, </P>


"Justin it was so funny...my daughter(shes 8 i believe)came home yesterday from school and said 'I made Joshua tell me he loved me today' so I was like 'really? how did you do that?' and she says, 'well...on the playground, I wouldnt let him down the slide till he said it. it was the password to use it' "</P>


im like omg, they start so young! next thing you know shes going to get pregnant to keep a guy around JUST BECAUSE!

Yea that almost got me slapped but she laughed. lol</P>

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 10:26 AM
Is this band great or what?</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</P>

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 10:29 AM
Is this band great or what?</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</P>


</P>


who is it, MH?

I dont have access to youtube at work</P>

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 10:31 AM
Is this band great or what?</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</P>


</P>


who is it, MH?

I dont have access to youtube at work</P>


</P>


Social D</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 10:37 AM
Is this band great or what?</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</p>


</p>


who is it, MH?

I dont have access to youtube at work</p>


</p>


Social D</p>

ewwwww

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 10:39 AM
Is this band great or what?</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</P>


</P>


who is it, MH?

I dont have access to youtube at work</P>


</P>


Social D</P>


</P>


good stuff. slightly before my time, however im a huge fan of the song "Story of My Life", most of that 80s punk stuff is well in my range of likeability</P>

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 10:48 AM
cant hear the music but it looks like a bunch of emos. and des hates emos.[:|]

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 10:50 AM
cant hear the music but it looks like a bunch of emos. and des hates emos.[:|]
</P>


with bieber hair, youd look like the biggest scene emo kid any of us have seen. lol</P>

ny06
12-10-2010, 10:53 AM
<FONT color=#0000ff>cant hear the music</FONT> but it looks like a bunch of emos. and des hates emos.[:|]
</P>


Just think of nails scratching a chalkboard</P>

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 10:55 AM
Is this band great or what?</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</P>


</P>


who is it, MH?

I dont have access to youtube at work</P>


</P>


Social D</P>


</P>


good stuff. slightly before my time, however im a huge fan of the song "Story of My Life", most of that 80s punk stuff is well in my range of likeability</P>


</P>


With all due respect Pizz, Social Distortion isn't even close to punk.</P>


And as far as being "before your time" they have a new album out and were on Jimmy Kimmell a few nights ago.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</P>

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:00 AM
With all due respect Pizz, Social Distortion isn't even close to punk.


And as far as being "before your time" they have a new album out and were on Jimmy Kimmell a few nights ago.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</P>


</P>


they came out in the early 80s(hence originally before my time), and are most def. originally classified as being of the punk persuassion. Maybe not so much anymore, which i wouldnt know cuz i dont listen.</P>


if you dont recognize 80s punk, then quite clearly you just have no idea what it even is.....with all due respect..</P>

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 11:01 AM
cant hear the music but it looks like a bunch of emos. and des hates emos.[:|]
</p>


with bieber hair, youd look like the biggest scene emo kid any of us have seen. lol</p>how dare you.....ill need some of those metal belts, skin tight jeans, and some an old pair converse,pack of smokes and skateboard. and most importantly, eyeliner.

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 11:04 AM
With all due respect Pizz, Social Distortion isn't even close to punk.


And as far as being "before your time" they have a new album out and were on Jimmy Kimmell a few nights ago.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo</P>


</P>


they came out in the early 80s(hence originally before my time), and are most def. originally classified as being of the punk persuassion. Maybe not so much anymore, which i wouldnt know cuz i dont listen.</P>


if you dont recognize 80s punk, then quite clearly you just have no idea what it even is.....with all due respect..</P>


</P>


Real punk came out of cellars in NYC and later in London. The real punk bands were bands like Television, The Sex Pistols, Ramones, and the Stranglers.</P>


Social D is just hard driving, in your face, woe is me, California, rock and roll.</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:07 AM
Social D was pop punk. A Green Day of their time if u will, just not as popular - or as good. And Green Day isn't good

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:07 AM
Social D is just hard driving, in your face, woe is me, California, rock and roll.


</P>


aka, SoCal "hardcore" Punk....

trust me.......im a punk doctor.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:08 AM
Social D is just hard driving, in your face, woe is me, California, rock and roll.


</p>


aka, SoCal "hardcore" Punk....

trust me.......im a punk doctor.</p>

SD is as hardcore as justin beiber is gangsta'

go listen to Suicidal Tendencies if u want hardcore punk from the 80s

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:09 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:12 AM
Social D is just hard driving, in your face, woe is me, California, rock and roll.


</P>


aka, SoCal "hardcore" Punk....

trust me.......im a punk doctor.</P>




SD is as hardcore as justin beiber is gangsta'

go listen to Suicidal Tendencies if u want hardcore punk from the 80s
</P>


hardcore doesnt exactly mean hardcore matt...
it's a style....</P>


whatever....find me a description of SD that doesnt refer to it as SoCal punk, or just punk</P>

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 11:14 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</P>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</P>


2. I would never have actually bet</P>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</P>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</P>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</P>

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:17 AM
Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</P>


</P>


oh well then its surprising that you dont know how to classify music....</P>


lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:24 AM
Social D is just hard driving, in your face, woe is me, California, rock and roll.


</p>


aka, SoCal "hardcore" Punk....

trust me.......im a punk doctor.</p>




SD is as hardcore as justin beiber is gangsta'

go listen to Suicidal Tendencies if u want hardcore punk from the 80s
</p>


hardcore doesnt exactly mean hardcore matt...
it's a style....</p>


whatever....find me a description of SD that doesnt refer to it as SoCal punk, or just punk</p>

i am debating the Hardcore comment.

They are def punk, but they were the pop punk of their time.

Besides the 80s genres are ******ed. Jethro Tull won the first ever best metal band of the year in the 80s. lol Jethro Tull is as much metal as BLT is a ladies man

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 11:24 AM
Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</P>


</P>


oh well then its surprising that you dont know how to classify music....</P>


lol</P>


</P>


Pop Punk is NOT punk. As a matter of fact Pop Punk is an oxi moron. By definition Punk is anti-pop. It was a revolt against anything popular.</P>


Punk is anti establishment, often anti government, angry music. Its almost always played at 150+ beats per minute or faster. Almost always in major chords.</P>


It started in basements in NYC and London. What Green Day or even Social Distortion do is nothing like authentic punk. </P>


You kids drive me nuts. You presume to tell me, a guy who was in his teens when punk developed, what REAL punk is. You drive me nuts. Go back to friggin BioHazard.</P>


ANGRY MOREHEAD!!</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:25 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</p>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</p>


2. I would never have actually bet</p>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</p>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</p>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>

bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:28 AM
Social D is just hard driving, in your face, woe is me, California, rock and roll.


</P>


aka, SoCal "hardcore" Punk....

trust me.......im a punk doctor.</P>




SD is as hardcore as justin beiber is gangsta'

go listen to Suicidal Tendencies if u want hardcore punk from the 80s
</P>


hardcore doesnt exactly mean hardcore matt...
it's a style....</P>


whatever....find me a description of SD that doesnt refer to it as SoCal punk, or just punk</P>




i am debating the Hardcore comment.

They are def punk, but they were the pop punk of their time.

Besides the 80s genres are ******ed. Jethro Tull won the first ever best metal band of the year in the 80s. lol Jethro Tull is as much metal as BLT is a ladies man
</P>


ok well lets try to agree on part of the terminology. when I think of the term hardcore, i know it as a faster, and louder version of whatever the original genre is.
take bands like the Sex Pistols(nobody would debate this as punk), and if someone played one of their songs faster and louder, itd be hardcore punk.

Morehead's description of Social Distortion..."hard driving in your face rock" ahem...hardcore punk.

Now that I think about it, sxdx is not hardcore punk...but to deny they are an 80s punk band seems like SOMEONE just wants to sound like they know everything.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:29 AM
Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>


</p>


oh well then its surprising that you dont know how to classify music....</p>


lol</p>


</p>


Pop Punk is NOT punk. As a matter of fact Pop Punk is an oxi moron. By definition Punk is anti-pop. It was a revolt against anything popular.</p>


Punk is anti establishment, often anti government, angry music. Its almost always played at 150+ beats per minute or faster. Almost always in major chords.</p>


It started in basements in NYC and London. What Green Day or even Social Distortion do is nothing like authentic punk. </p>


You kids drive me nuts. You presume to tell me, a guy who was in his teens when punk developed, what REAL punk is. You drive me nuts. Go back to friggin BioHazard.</p>


ANGRY MOREHEAD!!</p>

well pappy not for nothing, but i gotta use your own phrase against you.

You can consider them to be anything you want, but that doesn't make it so

anywhere u look at what SDs genre is, it always says punk.

Not real punk, i agree with u on that. Real punk is like Sex Pistols and The Clash and **** like that. But it labeled punk as was Green Day. You can not agree with it, but it is what it is.

SD is a pop punk. And Biohazard is me not Pizz...

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:31 AM
Social D is just hard driving, in your face, woe is me, California, rock and roll.


</p>


aka, SoCal "hardcore" Punk....

trust me.......im a punk doctor.</p>




SD is as hardcore as justin beiber is gangsta'

go listen to Suicidal Tendencies if u want hardcore punk from the 80s
</p>


hardcore doesnt exactly mean hardcore matt...
it's a style....</p>


whatever....find me a description of SD that doesnt refer to it as SoCal punk, or just punk</p>




i am debating the Hardcore comment.

They are def punk, but they were the pop punk of their time.

Besides the 80s genres are ******ed. Jethro Tull won the first ever best metal band of the year in the 80s. lol Jethro Tull is as much metal as BLT is a ladies man
</p>


ok well lets try to agree on part of the terminology. when I think of the term hardcore, i know it as a faster, and louder version of whatever the original genre is.
take bands like the Sex Pistols(nobody would debate this as punk), and if someone played one of their songs faster and louder, itd be hardcore punk.

Morehead's description of Social Distortion..."hard driving in your face rock" ahem...hardcore punk.

Now that I think about it, sxdx is not hardcore punk...but to deny they are an 80s punk band seems like SOMEONE just wants to sound like they know everything.</p>

they are a form of 80s punk, but i too have a hard t ime putting them in a catagory with the Sex Pistols. I think they are the poppiest punk band of the 80s

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:32 AM
Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</P>


</P>


oh well then its surprising that you dont know how to classify music....</P>


lol</P>


</P>


Pop Punk is NOT punk. As a matter of fact Pop Punk is an oxi moron. By definition Punk is anti-pop. It was a revolt against anything popular.</P>


Punk is anti establishment, often anti government, angry music. Its almost always played at 150+ beats per minute or faster. Almost always in major chords.</P>


It started in basements in NYC and London. What Green Day or even Social Distortion do is nothing like authentic punk. </P>


You kids drive me nuts. You presume to tell me, a guy who was in his teens when punk developed, what REAL punk is. You drive me nuts. Go back to friggin BioHazard.</P>


ANGRY MOREHEAD!!</P>


</P>


thats so ****ing ignorant that it's sickening. thats like saying since Led Zep is rock music, nothing today can be classified as rock music.
everything changes Morehead....punk then is not punk now. i dont like the term pop punk...
just cuz music isnt "underground" and angrydoesnt mean its not punk or not whatever genre is being debated.

Sex Pistols were very popular...so obviously they cant be punk.

There, just proved you wrong.</P>


i luckily dont feel that way, so dont worry...but the way you describe things contradicts every point you make.</P>

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:33 AM
btw, you pulled the "i was there" card again...</P>


i have no respect for using that line....it doesnt make you a ****ing expert, it just makes you arrogant.</P>

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 11:37 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</P>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</P>


2. I would never have actually bet</P>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</P>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</P>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</P>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</P>


Why is this hard?</P>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</P>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </P>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</P>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</P>


</P>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:40 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</p>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</p>


2. I would never have actually bet</p>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</p>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</p>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</p>


Why is this hard?</p>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</p>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </p>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</p>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</p>


</p>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</p>


ehh i guess i could accept that. But unfortunately, regardless of what u and i think, they are widely referred to as punk.

everything evolves pappy. LEts compare you and i.. back in the day people use to rock sexy staches... now that has turned into soul patches and thin sideburns lol.

And i hear ya, but like are u denying that SD is known as punk? Mind you i disagree with that title as well. I do think they are more 80s hard rock with poppy punk characteristics.

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:43 AM
for the record, I have never denied that alot of the music i listen to is considered pop punk, power pop, and i also listen to post-hardcore.</P>


see? i know my "genres"....im man enough to admit it regardless of my disdain for the terms. lol</P>

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 11:44 AM
Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>


</p>


oh well then its surprising that you dont know how to classify music....</p>


lol</p>


</p>


Pop Punk is NOT punk. As a matter of fact Pop Punk is an oxi moron. By definition Punk is anti-pop. It was a revolt against anything popular.</p>


Punk is anti establishment, often anti government, angry music. Its almost always played at 150+ beats per minute or faster. Almost always in major chords.</p>


It started in basements in NYC and London. What Green Day or even Social Distortion do is nothing like authentic punk. </p>


You kids drive me nuts. You presume to tell me, a guy who was in his teens when punk developed, what REAL punk is. You drive me nuts. Go back to friggin BioHazard.</p>


ANGRY MOREHEAD!!</p>

well pappy not for nothing, but i gotta use your own phrase against you.

You can consider them to be anything you want, but that doesn't make it so

anywhere u look at what SDs genre is, it always says punk.

Not real punk, i agree with u on that. Real punk is like Sex Pistols and The Clash and **** like that. But it labeled punk as was Green Day. You can not agree with it, but it is what it is.

SD is a pop punk. And Biohazard is me not Pizz...
think youre both right. bands have to have their own style or theyll just be considered posers

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 11:46 AM
for the record, I have never denied that alot of the music i listen to is considered pop punk, power pop, and i also listen to post-hardcore.</p>


see? i know my "genres"....im man enough to admit it regardless of my disdain for the terms. lol</p>pop punk is emosim. and does pop stand for popular?

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:46 AM
Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>


</p>


oh well then its surprising that you dont know how to classify music....</p>


lol</p>


</p>


Pop Punk is NOT punk. As a matter of fact Pop Punk is an oxi moron. By definition Punk is anti-pop. It was a revolt against anything popular.</p>


Punk is anti establishment, often anti government, angry music. Its almost always played at 150+ beats per minute or faster. Almost always in major chords.</p>


It started in basements in NYC and London. What Green Day or even Social Distortion do is nothing like authentic punk. </p>


You kids drive me nuts. You presume to tell me, a guy who was in his teens when punk developed, what REAL punk is. You drive me nuts. Go back to friggin BioHazard.</p>


ANGRY MOREHEAD!!</p>

well pappy not for nothing, but i gotta use your own phrase against you.

You can consider them to be anything you want, but that doesn't make it so

anywhere u look at what SDs genre is, it always says punk.

Not real punk, i agree with u on that. Real punk is like Sex Pistols and The Clash and **** like that. But it labeled punk as was Green Day. You can not agree with it, but it is what it is.

SD is a pop punk. And Biohazard is me not Pizz...
think youre both right. bands have to have their own style or theyll just be considered posers


everything evolves, if it didn't we'd all still be listening to gospel music

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:47 AM
for the record, I have never denied that alot of the music i listen to is considered pop punk, power pop, and i also listen to post-hardcore.</p>


see? i know my "genres"....im man enough to admit it regardless of my disdain for the terms. lol</p>pop punk is emosim. and does pop stand for popular?


yea but its meant like commercialized, soft

thats how i take it anyway.

Like New Found Glory type ****. Those dudes dressed like they were Rancid and then sang like homos

Reminds me of kiss lol

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 11:48 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</P>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</P>


2. I would never have actually bet</P>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</P>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</P>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</P>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</P>


Why is this hard?</P>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</P>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </P>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</P>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</P>


</P>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</P>





ehh i guess i could accept that. But unfortunately, regardless of what u and i think, they are widely referred to as punk.

everything evolves pappy. LEts compare you and i.. back in the day people use to rock sexy staches... now that has turned into soul patches and thin sideburns lol.

And i hear ya, but like are u denying that SD is known as punk? Mind you i disagree with that title as well. I do think they are more 80s hard rock with poppy punk characteristics.
</P>


Just because they are widely know as something doesn't make it true. "Punk" is a very specific phenomenon. Just because some record exec. somewhere coins a phrase like pop punk, doesn't make it right. </P>


</P>


</P>


A Pizz, you gotta give me a break with this "you played the I was there card" crap. You guys, I'm sure listen to a lot of todays music. I don't. In essence, you are there and i'm not.I would have to be an absolute fool to presume that I know as much about something that you had direct experience with and I didn't.</P>


There are very few bands today I can stand. I think its boring and unimaginative. But I only know what I like. I don't presume to know about it as much as any of you.</P>


"Pop Punk" is a friggin joke of an expression. Sid Vicious is rolling in his grave.</P>

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:48 AM
think youre both right. bands have to have their own style or theyll just be considered posers
</P>


yep!</P>


unless youre nickelback, then you just suck. lol</P>

lttaylor56
12-10-2010, 11:51 AM
urrrrrrybody practiced yesterday, ****ing titties

</p>


yea I jsut hope they arent going balls to the walls and agravating injuries. ive read nothing but positive things so far though so hopefully that keeps up and these guys are close to 100%</p>


but yes...titties indeeeeeeed</p>


yea i dont take anything they say serious. its always worse than it sounds.
</p>


prolly...</p>


i did read that Nicks was taking it easy though...being careful or w/e</p>
I want to see if Nicks can run Gasser's as they were reporting earlier in the week on Sunday.

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 11:51 AM
Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>


</p>


oh well then its surprising that you dont know how to classify music....</p>


lol</p>


</p>


Pop Punk is NOT punk. As a matter of fact Pop Punk is an oxi moron. By definition Punk is anti-pop. It was a revolt against anything popular.</p>


Punk is anti establishment, often anti government, angry music. Its almost always played at 150+ beats per minute or faster. Almost always in major chords.</p>


It started in basements in NYC and London. What Green Day or even Social Distortion do is nothing like authentic punk. </p>


You kids drive me nuts. You presume to tell me, a guy who was in his teens when punk developed, what REAL punk is. You drive me nuts. Go back to friggin BioHazard.</p>


ANGRY MOREHEAD!!</p>

well pappy not for nothing, but i gotta use your own phrase against you.

You can consider them to be anything you want, but that doesn't make it so

anywhere u look at what SDs genre is, it always says punk.

Not real punk, i agree with u on that. Real punk is like Sex Pistols and The Clash and **** like that. But it labeled punk as was Green Day. You can not agree with it, but it is what it is.

SD is a pop punk. And Biohazard is me not Pizz...
think youre both right. bands have to have their own style or theyll just be considered posers


everything evolves, if it didn't we'd all still be listening to gospel music
yuuup. but i think music evolving has hit its peak, i mean how many more ways can people make music.

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:52 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</p>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</p>


2. I would never have actually bet</p>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</p>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</p>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</p>


Why is this hard?</p>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</p>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </p>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</p>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</p>


</p>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</p>





ehh i guess i could accept that. But unfortunately, regardless of what u and i think, they are widely referred to as punk.

everything evolves pappy. LEts compare you and i.. back in the day people use to rock sexy staches... now that has turned into soul patches and thin sideburns lol.

And i hear ya, but like are u denying that SD is known as punk? Mind you i disagree with that title as well. I do think they are more 80s hard rock with poppy punk characteristics.
</p>


Just because they are widely know as something doesn't make it true. "Punk" is a very specific phenomenon. Just because some record exec. somewhere coins a phrase like pop punk, doesn't make it right. </p>


</p>


</p>


A Pizz, you gotta give me a break with this "you played the I was there card" crap. You guys, I'm sure listen to a lot of todays music. I don't. In essence, you are there and i'm not.I would have to be an absolute fool to presume that I know as much about something that you had direct experience with and I didn't.</p>


There are very few bands today I can stand. I think its boring and unimaginative. But I only know what I like. I don't presume to know about it as much as any of you.</p>


"Pop Punk" is a friggin joke of an expression. Sid Vicious is rolling in his grave.</p>

"You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. "

take ur own advice sir.

And your not alone. Nobody in here is a fan of pop punk, we agree its *** music, and the last good band to come out where I could actually listen to and enjoy the whole album was Audioslave and that was in like 2002

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:52 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</p>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</p>


2. I would never have actually bet</p>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</p>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</p>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</p>


Why is this hard?</p>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</p>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </p>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</p>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</p>


</p>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</p>





ehh i guess i could accept that. But unfortunately, regardless of what u and i think, they are widely referred to as punk.

everything evolves pappy. LEts compare you and i.. back in the day people use to rock sexy staches... now that has turned into soul patches and thin sideburns lol.

And i hear ya, but like are u denying that SD is known as punk? Mind you i disagree with that title as well. I do think they are more 80s hard rock with poppy punk characteristics.
</p>


Just because they are widely know as something doesn't make it true. "Punk" is a very specific phenomenon. Just because some record exec. somewhere coins a phrase like pop punk, doesn't make it right. </p>


</p>


</p>


A Pizz, you gotta give me a break with this "you played the I was there card" crap. You guys, I'm sure listen to a lot of todays music. I don't. In essence, you are there and i'm not.I would have to be an absolute fool to presume that I know as much about something that you had direct experience with and I didn't.</p>


There are very few bands today I can stand. I think its boring and unimaginative. But I only know what I like. I don't presume to know about it as much as any of you.</p>


"Pop Punk" is a friggin joke of an expression. Sid Vicious is rolling in his grave.</p>

"You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. "

take ur own advice sir.

And your not alone. Nobody in here is a fan of pop punk, we agree its *** music, and the last good band to come out where I could actually listen to and enjoy the whole album was Audioslave and that was in like 2002

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:53 AM
Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>


</p>


oh well then its surprising that you dont know how to classify music....</p>


lol</p>


</p>


Pop Punk is NOT punk. As a matter of fact Pop Punk is an oxi moron. By definition Punk is anti-pop. It was a revolt against anything popular.</p>


Punk is anti establishment, often anti government, angry music. Its almost always played at 150+ beats per minute or faster. Almost always in major chords.</p>


It started in basements in NYC and London. What Green Day or even Social Distortion do is nothing like authentic punk. </p>


You kids drive me nuts. You presume to tell me, a guy who was in his teens when punk developed, what REAL punk is. You drive me nuts. Go back to friggin BioHazard.</p>


ANGRY MOREHEAD!!</p>

well pappy not for nothing, but i gotta use your own phrase against you.

You can consider them to be anything you want, but that doesn't make it so

anywhere u look at what SDs genre is, it always says punk.

Not real punk, i agree with u on that. Real punk is like Sex Pistols and The Clash and **** like that. But it labeled punk as was Green Day. You can not agree with it, but it is what it is.

SD is a pop punk. And Biohazard is me not Pizz...
think youre both right. bands have to have their own style or theyll just be considered posers


everything evolves, if it didn't we'd all still be listening to gospel music
yuuup. but i think music evolving has hit its peak, i mean how many more ways can people make music.


well thats what makes rap appealing with the beats.

Rock music unfortunately is limited. "Its been done"

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:53 AM
urrrrrrybody practiced yesterday, ****ing titties

</p>


yea I jsut hope they arent going balls to the walls and agravating injuries. ive read nothing but positive things so far though so hopefully that keeps up and these guys are close to 100%</p>


but yes...titties indeeeeeeed</p>


yea i dont take anything they say serious. its always worse than it sounds.
</p>


prolly...</p>


i did read that Nicks was taking it easy though...being careful or w/e</p>
I want to see if Nicks can run Gasser's as they were reporting earlier in the week on Sunday.


i want to see ur avatar in my bed in person

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:55 AM
for the record, I have never denied that alot of the music i listen to is considered pop punk, power pop, and i also listen to post-hardcore.</P>


see? i know my "genres"....im man enough to admit it regardless of my disdain for the terms. lol</P>


pop punk is emosim. and does pop stand for popular?


yea but its meant like commercialized, soft

thats how i take it anyway.

Like New Found Glory type ****. Those dudes dressed like they were Rancid and then sang like homos

Reminds me of kiss lol
</P>


lmao</P>

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 11:56 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</P>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</P>


2. I would never have actually bet</P>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</P>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</P>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</P>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</P>


Why is this hard?</P>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</P>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </P>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</P>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</P>


</P>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</P>





ehh i guess i could accept that. But unfortunately, regardless of what u and i think, they are widely referred to as punk.

everything evolves pappy. LEts compare you and i.. back in the day people use to rock sexy staches... now that has turned into soul patches and thin sideburns lol.

And i hear ya, but like are u denying that SD is known as punk? Mind you i disagree with that title as well. I do think they are more 80s hard rock with poppy punk characteristics.
</P>


Just because they are widely know as something doesn't make it true. "Punk" is a very specific phenomenon. Just because some record exec. somewhere coins a phrase like pop punk, doesn't make it right. </P>


</P>


</P>


A Pizz, you gotta give me a break with this "you played the I was there card" crap. You guys, I'm sure listen to a lot of todays music. I don't. In essence, you are there and i'm not.I would have to be an absolute fool to presume that I know as much about something that you had direct experience with and I didn't.</P>


There are very few bands today I can stand. I think its boring and unimaginative. But I only know what I like. I don't presume to know about it as much as any of you.</P>


"Pop Punk" is a friggin joke of an expression. Sid Vicious is rolling in his grave.</P>




"You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. "

take ur own advice sir.

And your not alone. Nobody in here is a fan of pop punk, we agree its *** music, and the last good band to come out where I could actually listen to and enjoy the whole album was Audioslave and that was in like 2002
</P>


I don't call them anything other than a rock and roll band. Trying to reduce bands into "genre's by today's standard is silly. I like listening to them. they have nice chord progressions, Mike Ness has a great voice and they are unpretentious in my view.</P>


These are qualities I happen to like. </P>

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:57 AM
the last good band to come out where I could actually listen to and enjoy the whole album was Audioslave and that was in like 2002
</P>


Rage Against the Soundgarden?! lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 11:58 AM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</p>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</p>


2. I would never have actually bet</p>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</p>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</p>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</p>


Why is this hard?</p>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</p>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </p>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</p>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</p>


</p>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</p>





ehh i guess i could accept that. But unfortunately, regardless of what u and i think, they are widely referred to as punk.

everything evolves pappy. LEts compare you and i.. back in the day people use to rock sexy staches... now that has turned into soul patches and thin sideburns lol.

And i hear ya, but like are u denying that SD is known as punk? Mind you i disagree with that title as well. I do think they are more 80s hard rock with poppy punk characteristics.
</p>


Just because they are widely know as something doesn't make it true. "Punk" is a very specific phenomenon. Just because some record exec. somewhere coins a phrase like pop punk, doesn't make it right. </p>


</p>


</p>


A Pizz, you gotta give me a break with this "you played the I was there card" crap. You guys, I'm sure listen to a lot of todays music. I don't. In essence, you are there and i'm not.I would have to be an absolute fool to presume that I know as much about something that you had direct experience with and I didn't.</p>


There are very few bands today I can stand. I think its boring and unimaginative. But I only know what I like. I don't presume to know about it as much as any of you.</p>


"Pop Punk" is a friggin joke of an expression. Sid Vicious is rolling in his grave.</p>




"You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. "

take ur own advice sir.

And your not alone. Nobody in here is a fan of pop punk, we agree its *** music, and the last good band to come out where I could actually listen to and enjoy the whole album was Audioslave and that was in like 2002
</p>


I don't call them anything other than a rock and roll band. Trying to reduce bands into "genre's by today's standard is silly. I like listening to them. they have nice chord progressions, Mike Ness has a great voice and they are unpretentious in my view.</p>


These are qualities I happen to like. </p>

i think they blow

JPizzack
12-10-2010, 11:59 AM
off to lunch. back in a bit. fight nice

shockeyg
12-10-2010, 12:01 PM
I'm a Rob Zombie kinda guy myself .

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 12:02 PM
urrrrrrybody practiced yesterday, ****ing titties

</p>


yea I jsut hope they arent going balls to the walls and agravating injuries. ive read nothing but positive things so far though so hopefully that keeps up and these guys are close to 100%</p>


but yes...titties indeeeeeeed</p>


yea i dont take anything they say serious. its always worse than it sounds.
</p>


prolly...</p>


i did read that Nicks was taking it easy though...being careful or w/e</p>
I want to see if Nicks can run Gasser's as they were reporting earlier in the week on Sunday.


i want to see ur avatar in my bed in person
yea iv been staring at that side boob for a minute.

dezzzR
12-10-2010, 12:18 PM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</p>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</p>


2. I would never have actually bet</p>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</p>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</p>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</p>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</p>


Why is this hard?</p>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</p>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </p>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</p>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</p>


</p>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</p>





ehh i guess i could accept that. But unfortunately, regardless of what u and i think, they are widely referred to as punk.

everything evolves pappy. LEts compare you and i.. back in the day people use to rock sexy staches... now that has turned into soul patches and thin sideburns lol.

And i hear ya, but like are u denying that SD is known as punk? Mind you i disagree with that title as well. I do think they are more 80s hard rock with poppy punk characteristics.
</p>


Just because they are widely know as something doesn't make it true. "Punk" is a very specific phenomenon. Just because some record exec. somewhere coins a phrase like pop punk, doesn't make it right. </p>


</p>


</p>


A Pizz, you gotta give me a break with this "you played the I was there card" crap. You guys, I'm sure listen to a lot of todays music. I don't. In essence, you are there and i'm not.I would have to be an absolute fool to presume that I know as much about something that you had direct experience with and I didn't.</p>


There are very few bands today I can stand. I think its boring and unimaginative. But I only know what I like. I don't presume to know about it as much as any of you.</p>


"Pop Punk" is a friggin joke of an expression. Sid Vicious is rolling in his grave.</p>




"You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. "

take ur own advice sir.

And your not alone. Nobody in here is a fan of pop punk, we agree its *** music, and the last good band to come out where I could actually listen to and enjoy the whole album was Audioslave and that was in like 2002
</p>


I don't call them anything other than a rock and roll band. Trying to reduce bands into "genre's by today's standard is silly. I like listening to them. they have nice chord progressions, Mike Ness has a great voice and they are unpretentious in my view.</p>


These are qualities I happen to like. </p>listen to tool mh youll like them.

MattMeyerBud
12-10-2010, 12:20 PM
I'm a Rob Zombie kinda guy myself .

im not the biggest Zombie guy, i can take him or leave him but i saw him twice. Once at Ozzfest and the other was a show they did with Godsmack and I have to say they may of been the tightest band i've ever seen

Morehead State
12-10-2010, 12:22 PM
Moorehead has just completely changed before our eyes:

1) All of a sudden spending a ridic amount of money to build a baseball team is okay with him

2) Hes okay with gambling again

3) Hes telling us to listen to music that was post 1979
</P>


1. One major signing per year is fine.</P>


2. I would never have actually bet</P>


3. There isn't much music today that I like. But I loved 90's alternative music.</P>


You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. Its like calling Motley Crue, heavy metal.</P>


Morehead was a DJ before he sold printing. Music from the 70's and 80's is my specialty.</P>




bla bla bla

what do u consider social d in genre wise?
</P>


Why is this hard?</P>


They're a hard rock and roll band.</P>


You guys and your "genre" nonsense. A band is what it is. </P>


You can say some of these bands evolved from punk. But when the Pretenders stopped doing songs like "Precious" and started doing "Back to Ohio", they stopped being a punk band. Andtrust me Chrissy Hynde was one of the original punk musicians in London.</P>


Real Punk, was a phenomenon that essentially died in the early 80's. There are a few stragglers out there playing in clubs somewhere, but authentic punk has been gone for a long time. It got *******ized and kids who thought theywere cool claimed they listened to "punk". But it was bull****.</P>


</P>


And I don't claim to know everything at all. I'm sure you all know modern rock music a lot more than I do. But the original punk movement is something I do have some knowledge of.</P>





ehh i guess i could accept that. But unfortunately, regardless of what u and i think, they are widely referred to as punk.

everything evolves pappy. LEts compare you and i.. back in the day people use to rock sexy staches... now that has turned into soul patches and thin sideburns lol.

And i hear ya, but like are u denying that SD is known as punk? Mind you i disagree with that title as well. I do think they are more 80s hard rock with poppy punk characteristics.
</P>


Just because they are widely know as something doesn't make it true. "Punk" is a very specific phenomenon. Just because some record exec. somewhere coins a phrase like pop punk, doesn't make it right. </P>


</P>


</P>


A Pizz, you gotta give me a break with this "you played the I was there card" crap. You guys, I'm sure listen to a lot of todays music. I don't. In essence, you are there and i'm not.I would have to be an absolute fool to presume that I know as much about something that you had direct experience with and I didn't.</P>


There are very few bands today I can stand. I think its boring and unimaginative. But I only know what I like. I don't presume to know about it as much as any of you.</P>


"Pop Punk" is a friggin joke of an expression. Sid Vicious is rolling in his grave.</P>




"You can call Social D anything you like but that doesn't make it so. "

take ur own advice sir.

And your not alone. Nobody in here is a fan of pop punk, we agree its *** music, and the last good band to come out where I could actually listen to and enjoy the whole album was Audioslave and that was in like 2002
</P>


I don't call them anything other than a rock and roll band. Trying to reduce bands into "genre's by today's standard is silly. I like listening to them. they have nice chord progressions, Mike Ness has a great voice and they are unpretentious in my view.</P>


These are qualities I happen to like. </P>


listen to tool mh youll like them.
</P>


Tool is old. But they are dark like Morehead.I love the claymation video with the body parts going through the pipes.</P>


</P>


<FONT size=4>And can we all agree that NO ONE can drive a convo on this thread like Morehead?</FONT></P>