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MattMeyerBud
05-02-2011, 01:43 PM
anyone else feeling very prideful that we got that **** sucker? im really pumped right now. not one seal was hit. amazing.
</p>


no....
because nobody gives a **** about how many thousands of people died for such a stupid cause. **** that...i dont care about this "news" at all
bring every single soldier home, and cut the military budget by 99%, and then maybe i'll show some American pride for such a stupid thing. </p>




that was a stupid comment, if anything it justifies us being there for so long... there is actually progress. Well except for Iraq

apparently we're going to have to go **** up Yemin now before these ****ers bring that **** to our shores again. And to be honest, I think this is the start of something with Pakistan. That government was hiding him right under their noses.
</p>


well this is all very comforting.....
and no, it doesnt justify it, to me anyway as a realist. 1 guy? I dont even want to know how many people have died from a direct result of this.
I come from a family with alot of military background, and let me tell you how tired of it we all are.
My cousin is a marine sergeant, and has lost count of how many of his friends have been killed. he also lost count of how many times HE should have died himself. it's ruined him, his faith, and dedication to a cause he was forced to have, and all he cares about are the people around him.

So yea, it's easy for us to sit at home, go to work every day, come home, watch some baseball, post on the giants forums. but it's at the expense of people like him...stuck somewhere he shouldnt be, doing things we have no business doing, and 10 years later, this still feels like the beginning.
none of this is worth the lost lives, and to think otherwise just because politicians say so, seems dumb.
I know it's not popular opinion to not be excited about something in the news of this magnitude, but I can't help how I feel about the whole ordeal. So, I'm sorry for that. =\</p>




well i mean are we suppose to NOT go after these guys? I mean i'm all for pulling out of Iraq, but afganistan and yemin and pakistan?

I mean shouldwe just wait for another plane to go down before we make a move?

Everybody is tired of war, but keep in mind all the **** we don't hear about. These dudes are looking to kill Americans in masses. Do you not agree with that?
</p>


we're meddlers. it's why people hate us. yet we hunger for that **** like a bunch of ****ing crackheads. so it becomes an endless cycle. we **** around where we shouldnt, ppl hateus, they kill us, and then we say **** you, and invade, and spend years and years somewhere....
planes matt? really? who says that.....???
do you think we are scaring extremists? there are only 2 options; they do things, or they dont do things. there is no in between grey area where they exist but are too afraid to attack Americans.
I think we're starting to reach this point, where the bigger we build our military, the more it makes people want to harm us. And since all we spend tax money on is military, this is just the beginning. sickening really...</p>obamas cut military spending greatly. remember we didnt start this war. how can you blame america for some stupid muslims that take their religion to the extreme. they hate us because we support isreal and give them billions a year. and after killing obl, invading iraq, afghan you can bet your *** were scaring them. it shows well go to any length to hunt them down and bring them to justice for killing americans. if we do nothing it just emboldens them. unfortunately casualties come with war, but let me just say weve had less casualties than in any major war by tens of thousands, and weve been fighting for 10 years. amazing. unforntunately thats really the only thing that gets reported, are our soldiers dieing, but the truth is were kicking the talibans *** every time we come into contact with them. the taliban isnt stupid, they know they just have to wait us out and keep killing one american at a time and let our media take care of the rest, when in reality weve been winning both wars the whole time, just like vietnam. we won every battle but the america people got tired of it. . this is a major MAJOR blow to not only al qaida but also the taliban, especially since the taliban always starts its offensives in the spring. its a great day to be american and you should be proud.


while thats tru eto an extent, we're not really putting fear in them

these people are suicide bombers, they are ready to die
with out a doubt we are. look how things calmed down in both countries after the "surges". thats why these cowards plant ieds on the sides of roads. they know they cant beat our forces head on in a firefight. they fear our airforce especially the drones. thankfully not all these jihadist are suicidal. i just herd on the news bin ladin was using a woman as a human shield. he feared us.
Yes , Bin Laden is a coward. He was using a woman as a shield. I heard reports that we killed her to avoid any nonesense and then we took out Bin Laden.
i cant wait for the video game to come out


dude as sick as it sounds, i honestly was thinking, i can't WAIT for the movie to come out to see how this all went down lol

MattMeyerBud
05-02-2011, 01:45 PM
hey guys</p>


there's old saying...you live by the sword youdie by the sword .so good riddance to bad rubbish</p>


I try to keep things simple...when it comes to people I hope they get what they deserve, If your bad you get rewarded accordingly...if your good the same ...And hope their is a god in heaven dishing out the rewards....Cause other wisemany will have gotten away with murder in this life...</p>


In my little world I have to make decisions and Idon't take it lightly...because I want to begood and do good...and I don't want no **** form the good lord at the end of the day..</p>


When it comes to government and those who are running it, I don't have a lot of faith in them and that's just the way it is.sorry...that's where all the money is along with the big ego's..they don'thang with guyslike me but rather decide what guys like me need, ****'em....so Iworry about my little world and **** every thing else...cause changinghow this world is run just ain't going to happen..</p>


End with this.. I enjoy my freedom and havenothing have nothingbut the utmost respect for those who have forth anddied in that cause. And that includesthe innocent such as those of 9/11...hopefully this helps them put that dreaded day behind them...</p>


</p>


ps.. Not knowing if we have football has made it real hard for me to get excited...it also back burned some other issue's and ?the team had ...coaching being one that come to mind for me...</p>


sorry if I offend do not mean to.. jmho</p>

stop apologizing goddamnit!!!

good post

MattMeyerBud
05-02-2011, 01:48 PM
hey guys</p>


there's old saying...you live by the sword youdie by the sword .so good riddance to bad rubbish</p>


I try to keep things simple...when it comes to people I hope they get what they deserve, If your bad you get rewarded accordingly...if your good the same ...And hope their is a god in heaven dishing out the rewards....Cause other wisemany will have gotten away with murder in this life...</p>


In my little world I have to make decisions and Idon't take it lightly...because I want to begood and do good...and I don't want no **** form the good lord at the end of the day..</p>


When it comes to government and those who are running it, I don't have a lot of faith in them and that's just the way it is.sorry...that's where all the money is along with the big ego's..they don'thang with guyslike me but rather decide what guys like me need, ****'em....so Iworry about my little world and **** every thing else...cause changinghow this world is run just ain't going to happen..</p>


End with this.. I enjoy my freedom and havenothing have nothingbut the utmost respect for those who have forth anddied in that cause. And that includesthe innocent such as those of 9/11...hopefully this helps them put that dreaded day behind them...</p>


</p>


ps.. Not knowing if we have football has made it real hard for me to get excited...it also back burned some other issue's and ?the team had ...coaching being one that come to mind for me...</p>


sorry if I offend do not mean to.. jmho</p>

stop apologizing goddamnit!!!

good post

JPizzack
05-02-2011, 02:14 PM
Did you guys see that video HotHead posted on FB about Chad Jones recovery? Pretty moving stuff.
I forget what site reported it, but it was good.
I hope the guy gets to see a football field again one day

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 02:31 PM
Did you guys see that video HotHead posted on FB about Chad Jones recovery? Pretty moving stuff.
I forget what site reported it, but it was good.
I hope the guy gets to see a football field again one dayYeah--really impressive progress from a kid that almost lost his foot. He appears to walk awkwardly, but was running on the tread mill pretty good. Not sure if you saw the same video as me, but I saw him doing squats with a dumbell in each hand on a stability ball. That is not an easy task for a healthy person.

JPizzack
05-02-2011, 02:50 PM
Did you guys see that video HotHead posted on FB about Chad Jones recovery? Pretty moving stuff.
I forget what site reported it, but it was good.
I hope the guy gets to see a football field again one dayYeah--really impressive progress from a kid that almost lost his foot. He appears to walk awkwardly, but was running on the tread mill pretty good. Not sure if you saw the same video as me, but I saw him doing squats with a dumbell in each hand on a stability ball. That is not an easy task for a healthy person.
</P>


haha! i thought the same thing!! im like wow...I'd break an ankle doing that! lol
yea he seems to be able to function pretty normally which is awesome. I honestly doubt he'll ever have NFL speed again, but considering the scar he wears, and the progress thus far....i wont rule it out.</P>

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 02:52 PM
I got into a fight with a bottle of Everclear this saturday. Tucker Max Death Mix...it's namedthat for a reason....
I wouldnt say I lost, or won.....it was a tie! lolWhat the hell is everclear, sounds like acne medication?
</p>


lol, it's 190+ proof grain alcohol.</p>Moonshine

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 03:03 PM
anyone else feeling very prideful that we got that **** sucker? im really pumped right now. not one seal was hit. amazing.
</p>


no....
because nobody gives a **** about how many thousands of people died for such a stupid cause. **** that...i dont care about this "news" at all
bring every single soldier home, and cut the military budget by 99%, and then maybe i'll show some American pride for such a stupid thing. </p>




that was a stupid comment, if anything it justifies us being there for so long... there is actually progress. Well except for Iraq

apparently we're going to have to go **** up Yemin now before these ****ers bring that **** to our shores again. And to be honest, I think this is the start of something with Pakistan. That government was hiding him right under their noses.
</p>


well this is all very comforting.....
and no, it doesnt justify it, to me anyway as a realist. 1 guy? I dont even want to know how many people have died from a direct result of this.
I come from a family with alot of military background, and let me tell you how tired of it we all are.
My cousin is a marine sergeant, and has lost count of how many of his friends have been killed. he also lost count of how many times HE should have died himself. it's ruined him, his faith, and dedication to a cause he was forced to have, and all he cares about are the people around him.

So yea, it's easy for us to sit at home, go to work every day, come home, watch some baseball, post on the giants forums. but it's at the expense of people like him...stuck somewhere he shouldnt be, doing things we have no business doing, and 10 years later, this still feels like the beginning.
none of this is worth the lost lives, and to think otherwise just because politicians say so, seems dumb.
I know it's not popular opinion to not be excited about something in the news of this magnitude, but I can't help how I feel about the whole ordeal. So, I'm sorry for that. =\</p>




well i mean are we suppose to NOT go after these guys? I mean i'm all for pulling out of Iraq, but afganistan and yemin and pakistan?

I mean shouldwe just wait for another plane to go down before we make a move?

Everybody is tired of war, but keep in mind all the **** we don't hear about. These dudes are looking to kill Americans in masses. Do you not agree with that?
</p>


we're meddlers. it's why people hate us. yet we hunger for that **** like a bunch of ****ing crackheads. so it becomes an endless cycle. we **** around where we shouldnt, ppl hateus, they kill us, and then we say **** you, and invade, and spend years and years somewhere....
planes matt? really? who says that.....???
do you think we are scaring extremists? there are only 2 options; they do things, or they dont do things. there is no in between grey area where they exist but are too afraid to attack Americans.
I think we're starting to reach this point, where the bigger we build our military, the more it makes people want to harm us. And since all we spend tax money on is military, this is just the beginning. sickening really...</p>obamas cut military spending greatly. remember we didnt start this war. how can you blame america for some stupid muslims that take their religion to the extreme. they hate us because we support isreal and give them billions a year. and after killing obl, invading iraq, afghan you can bet your *** were scaring them. it shows well go to any length to hunt them down and bring them to justice for killing americans. if we do nothing it just emboldens them. unfortunately casualties come with war, but let me just say weve had less casualties than in any major war by tens of thousands, and weve been fighting for 10 years. amazing. unforntunately thats really the only thing that gets reported, are our soldiers dieing, but the truth is were kicking the talibans *** every time we come into contact with them. the taliban isnt stupid, they know they just have to wait us out and keep killing one american at a time and let our media take care of the rest, when in reality weve been winning both wars the whole time, just like vietnam. we won every battle but the america people got tired of it. . this is a major MAJOR blow to not only al qaida but also the taliban, especially since the taliban always starts its offensives in the spring. its a great day to be american and you should be proud.


while thats tru eto an extent, we're not really putting fear in them

these people are suicide bombers, they are ready to die
with out a doubt we are. look how things calmed down in both countries after the "surges". thats why these cowards plant ieds on the sides of roads. they know they cant beat our forces head on in a firefight. they fear our airforce especially the drones. thankfully not all these jihadist are suicidal. i just herd on the news bin ladin was using a woman as a human shield. he feared us.
Yes , Bin Laden is a coward. He was using a woman as a shield. I heard reports that we killed her to avoid any nonesense and then we took out Bin Laden.


ehh... those are details of war that are better left under the carpet....
Agreed.

JPizzack
05-02-2011, 03:04 PM
I got into a fight with a bottle of Everclear this saturday. Tucker Max Death Mix...it's namedthat for a reason....
I wouldnt say I lost, or won.....it was a tie! lolWhat the hell is everclear, sounds like acne medication?
</P>


lol, it's 190+ proof grain alcohol.</P>


Moonshine</P>


basically....**** ****s up your vision pretty bad.
I blacked out again...which leads me to believe Igotta give it a rest for awhile. Although, I hadnt drank in a few weeks, which is probably why i ended up in that situation =\ lol
I never blacked out in my life, and now 3 times, in 4 months? jeez....
</P>

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 03:32 PM
I got into a fight with a bottle of Everclear this saturday. Tucker Max Death Mix...it's namedthat for a reason....
I wouldnt say I lost, or won.....it was a tie! lolWhat the hell is everclear, sounds like acne medication?
</p>


lol, it's 190+ proof grain alcohol.</p>


Moonshine</p>


basically....**** ****s up your vision pretty bad.
I blacked out again...which leads me to believe Igotta give it a rest for awhile. Although, I hadnt drank in a few weeks, which is probably why i ended up in that situation =\ lol
I never blacked out in my life, and now 3 times, in 4 months? jeez....
</p>Really? Oh boy! As I get older by 9pm I can't see to dam well anyway and I'm not drinking. lmao. I would think after a few weeks off you should of been ok---it's time to start drinking beer only. The hard stuff will kill you.

JPizzack
05-02-2011, 03:45 PM
I got into a fight with a bottle of Everclear this saturday. Tucker Max Death Mix...it's namedthat for a reason....
I wouldnt say I lost, or won.....it was a tie! lolWhat the hell is everclear, sounds like acne medication?
</P>


lol, it's 190+ proof grain alcohol.</P>


Moonshine</P>


basically....**** ****s up your vision pretty bad.
I blacked out again...which leads me to believe Igotta give it a rest for awhile. Although, I hadnt drank in a few weeks, which is probably why i ended up in that situation =\ lol
I never blacked out in my life, and now 3 times, in 4 months? jeez....
</P>


Really? Oh boy! As I get older by 9pm I can't see to dam well anyway and I'm not drinking. lmao. I would think after a few weeks off you should of been ok---it's time to start drinking beer only. The hard stuff will kill you.
</P>


yeeaaaaa.....and usually I only drink beer anyway, but, just chalk this up to another bad decision after drinking alot of beer already =\</P>

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 03:47 PM
I got into a fight with a bottle of Everclear this saturday. Tucker Max Death Mix...it's namedthat for a reason....
I wouldnt say I lost, or won.....it was a tie! lolWhat the hell is everclear, sounds like acne medication?
</p>


lol, it's 190+ proof grain alcohol.</p>


Moonshine</p>


basically....**** ****s up your vision pretty bad.
I blacked out again...which leads me to believe Igotta give it a rest for awhile. Although, I hadnt drank in a few weeks, which is probably why i ended up in that situation =\ lol
I never blacked out in my life, and now 3 times, in 4 months? jeez....
</p>


Really? Oh boy! As I get older by 9pm I can't see to dam well anyway and I'm not drinking. lmao. I would think after a few weeks off you should of been ok---it's time to start drinking beer only. The hard stuff will kill you.
</p>


yeeaaaaa.....and usually I only drink beer anyway, but, just chalk this up to another bad decision after drinking alot of beer already =\</p>hahaha and that will happen. Duhh! Your judgement is impaired, everything feels good and BANG you do something stupid. Alcohol is a mother****er!

JPizzack
05-02-2011, 03:52 PM
hahaha and that will happen. Duhh! Your judgement is impaired, everything feels good and BANG you do something stupid. Alcohol is a mother****er!
</P>


lol, apparently I took a twizzler from a bag, and whipped my friend in the neck with it, and then he sack tapped me and i fell to my knees for 5 minutes in agony....and then i popped up, and yelled something about knowing him since kindergarten, and called him an *******, and then went to the deck to get us more beer &gt;.&lt; lol</P>

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 03:59 PM
hahaha and that will happen. Duhh! Your judgement is impaired, everything feels good and BANG you do something stupid. Alcohol is a mother****er!
</p>


lol, apparently I took a twizzler from a bag, and whipped my friend in the neck with it, and then he sack tapped me and i fell to my knees for 5 minutes in agony....and then i popped up, and yelled something about knowing him since kindergarten, and called him an *******, and then went to the deck to get us more beer &gt;.&lt; lol</p>Sometimes it's fun to inflict pain on your buds when your lit up. lol. I was gonna ask about the sack tap, then I realized....owwwwwcch!!!!

DavenIII
05-02-2011, 04:05 PM
lol Tucker Max....he has some wonderful stories....

whats in his death mix...besides Everclear ;P

and BTW....Everclear and Moonshine aren't really the same thing in my opinion, I've had both, Everclear is (I believe) literally the strongest liquor made for consumption... Moonshine is generally homemade...but it has "some" sort of taste... Everclear has absolutely no taste....I like to say it tastes like burning, it's "intended" to be added to other stuff without make it taste any different...for example a "screwdriver" take out the vodka put the same amount of Everclear in and you have something that tastes EXACTLY like Orange Juice....but will **** you up.

Moonshine is meant to be drank as a shot, and generally has some sort of taste...and is "I think" generally 10-15% less potent then Everclear...you can't really tell though cause it's normally homemade...

and I'm 90% sure that going blind from drinking is completely made up...blacking out...that's a totally different thing :P

JPizzack
05-02-2011, 04:15 PM
lol Tucker Max....he has some wonderful stories....

whats in his death mix...besides Everclear ;P

and BTW....Everclear and Moonshine aren't really the same thing in my opinion, I've had both, Everclear is (I believe) literally the strongest liquor made for consumption... Moonshine is generally homemade...but it has "some" sort of taste... Everclear has absolutely no taste....I like to say it tastes like burning, it's "intended" to be added to other stuff without make it taste any different...for example a "screwdriver" take out the vodka put the same amount of Everclear in and you have something that tastes EXACTLY like Orange Juice....but will **** you up.

Moonshine is meant to be drank as a shot, and generally has some sort of taste...and is "I think" generally 10-15% less potent then Everclear...you can't really tell though cause it's normally homemade...

and I'm 90% sure that going blind from drinking is completely made up...blacking out...that's a totally different thing :P
</P>


no they are definitely not the same thing...i just agreed to the alcohol content lol

Death Mix is A large bottle of Gatoraid, whatever flavor....one of those big red bulls, and at least 350ml of Everclear.
we used half a regular bottle in a pitcher, with more of the other ingredients just to make 2 pitchers worth.</P>

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 04:19 PM
lol Tucker Max....he has some wonderful stories....

whats in his death mix...besides Everclear ;P

and BTW....Everclear and Moonshine aren't really the same thing in my opinion, I've had both, Everclear is (I believe) literally the strongest liquor made for consumption... Moonshine is generally homemade...but it has "some" sort of taste... Everclear has absolutely no taste....I like to say it tastes like burning, it's "intended" to be added to other stuff without make it taste any different...for example a "screwdriver" take out the vodka put the same amount of Everclear in and you have something that tastes EXACTLY like Orange Juice....but will **** you up.

Moonshine is meant to be drank as a shot, and generally has some sort of taste...and is "I think" generally 10-15% less potent then Everclear...you can't really tell though cause it's normally homemade...

and I'm 90% sure that going blind from drinking is completely made up...blacking out...that's a totally different thing :P
</p>


no they are definitely not the same thing...i just agreed to the alcohol content lol

Death Mix is A large bottle of Gatoraid, whatever flavor....one of those big red bulls, and at least 350ml of Everclear.
we used half a regular bottle in a pitcher, with more of the other ingredients just to make 2 pitchers worth.</p>jp AFTER he blacked out. ha

http://crazy-frankenstein.com/pictures-files/drunk-pictures/drunk-guy-funny.jpg
OR
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_X_d6JjJ00I4/TJoZvwT7FPI/AAAAAAAAYIY/L7X5bRhTebs/s1600/drunk+guy+on+a+toilet.jpg

JPizzack
05-02-2011, 04:26 PM
howd you know I passed out in the bathroom at 4am? (i eventually got up and went to bed lol)

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 04:30 PM
howd you know I passed out in the bathroom at 4am? (i eventually got up and went to bed lol)Nice cool floor tile, helps with the headache the next day. lol

JPizzack
05-02-2011, 04:38 PM
howd you know I passed out in the bathroom at 4am? (i eventually got up and went to bed lol)Nice cool floor tile, helps with the headache the next day. lol
</P>


lol</P>


oh, and daven, you cannot go blind from it, or lose your vision, but the impaired vision caused by very high proof alcohol is significantly worse than most anything else.</P>

DavenIII
05-02-2011, 04:48 PM
Death Mix is A large bottle of Gatoraid, whatever flavor....one of those big red bulls, and at least 350ml of Everclear.


we used half a regular bottle in a pitcher, with more of the other ingredients just to make 2 pitchers worth.</p>

Nice but I prefer the good ole jungle juice.

we used to take something like these....http://www.wswdelivery.com/product_images/y/466/321__10498_std.jpg cut the top off, take 2 or 3 Hi-C Dry Mix things throw em in there, then a normal size OJ and a full bottle of Everclear fill the rest up with water and mix it, then serve it (mostly to the girls) at college parties....but that stuff got people WRECKED....wouldn't be uncommon to see 10-12+ people sleeping in the common room on the floor the next morning.

DavenIII
05-02-2011, 04:50 PM
howd you know I passed out in the bathroom at 4am? (i eventually got up and went to bed lol)Nice cool floor tile, helps with the headache the next day. lol


This is so true, I have no idea what it is, but when you are Smashed...(I'm talking like...probably on the verge of Alc. Poisoning Trashed) after throwing up for a bit you are so god damn Hot...i've ended up sprawled out on the tile floor in nothing but a pair of boxers on more then a few occasions in my younger days.

Kase-1
05-02-2011, 06:01 PM
AMERICA....FVCK YEA!!!!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI&amp;has_verified=1)

Kase-1
05-02-2011, 06:25 PM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one
is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing
America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in
Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)

bandwgn86
05-02-2011, 08:43 PM
just one mans opinion... they should of gave back the body, or even bury him for AL Q and let the millitants rally around his grave......





THAN CARPET BOMB THE PLACE when the rally was happening...

Kase-1
05-02-2011, 08:45 PM
just one mans opinion... they should of gave back the body, or even bury him for AL Q and let the millitants rally around his grave......





THAN CARPET BOMB THE PLACE when the rally was happening...
...And who said the Canadians arent a violent people

bandwgn86
05-02-2011, 08:49 PM
just one mans opinion... they should of gave back the body, or even bury him for AL Q and let the millitants rally around his grave......





THAN CARPET BOMB THE PLACE when the rally was happening...
...And who said the Canadians arent a violent people
what's good Kase..

bandwgn86
05-02-2011, 08:57 PM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one
is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing
America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in
Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..

lttaylor56
05-02-2011, 09:41 PM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </P>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</P>

bandwgn86
05-02-2011, 09:54 PM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 09:57 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic
Funny you say that....I was thinking that is how we should of done it yesterday. Agreed, the US generally does not resort to such actions, or how do we really know? His actions were the worst this world has ever seen. In my mind, extreme punishment/tortue would fit the crime.

If it played out the way it was reported, I think that is why Bin Laden resisted being taken into custody and was shot. Bin Laden knew that after he was given life in prison-there is no way the inmates would not tear him to shreds.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 10:22 AM
morning biznatches

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 10:27 AM
morning biznatchesI made a surprise visit to my branch last night. Sweet Melissa is very helpful/informative with questions, but she seems to get a little anxious/nervous when speaking in close proximity without the counter between herself and a very masculine male.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 10:36 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one
is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing
America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in
Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)


LMAO

good show sir good show

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 10:37 AM
just one mans opinion... they should of gave back the body, or even bury him for AL Q and let the millitants rally around his grave......





THAN CARPET BOMB THE PLACE when the rally was happening...


lol

not the worst of ideas

i read the first half of this and hit respond, then i read the rest

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 10:37 AM
morning biznatchesI made a surprise visit to my branch last night. Sweet Melissa is very helpful/informative with questions, but she seems to get a little anxious/nervous when speaking in close proximity without the counter between herself and a very masculine male.
</P>


lmao</P>


i'd give her something to be nervous about. HEEYYYOOOOOO!!!!!! lol
i still dont know her....its not my fault tho =\</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 10:39 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>

not trying to add a Crusades war to the war on terror.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 10:40 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic


na i think that conspiracy theory is stupid for two reasons

A) some say we caught him during Bush's admin... yea right. Like Bush wouldn't of let that on his resume

B) The constant **** Obama has received during his tenure. He would be of been PRAISED and got a free term basically had he caught him early. It would of been in his interest to let this news out early as possible

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 10:41 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic
Funny you say that....I was thinking that is how we should of done it yesterday. Agreed, the US generally does not resort to such actions, or how do we really know? His actions were the worst this world has ever seen. In my mind, extreme punishment/tortue would fit the crime.

If it played out the way it was reported, I think that is why Bin Laden resisted being taken into custody and was shot. Bin Laden knew that after he was given life in prison-there is no way the inmates would not tear him to shreds.


we publically don't act that way


but its ****in war man, there ain't no rules when u got gun fire... im pretty sure we've had soldiers kill some mofos dead and then stomp their head out

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 10:42 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic
Funny you say that....I was thinking that is how we should of done it yesterday. Agreed, the US generally does not resort to such actions, or how do we really know? His actions were the worst this world has ever seen. In my mind, extreme punishment/tortue would fit the crime.

If it played out the way it was reported, I think that is why Bin Laden resisted being taken into custody and was shot. Bin Laden knew that after he was given life in prison-there is no way the inmates would not tear him to shreds.


we publically don't act that way


but its ****in war man, there ain't no rules when u got gun fire... im pretty sure we've had soldiers kill some mofos dead and then stomp their head out

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 10:47 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)


LMAO

good show sir good show
</P>


ok yea that was pretty ****ing funny....lol</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 10:58 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic


na i think that conspiracy theory is stupid for two reasons

A) some say we caught him during Bush's admin... yea right. Like Bush wouldn't of let that on his resume

B) The constant **** Obama has received during his tenure. He would be of been PRAISED and got a free term basically had he caught him early. It would of been in his interest to let this news out early as possible
killing obl is obamas ticket to re election. even though this whole operation started four years ago, and how did we obtain where obl was hiding? water boarding. obamas getting far to much credit imo, not that he doesnt deserve any. did you hear the ****s on the view? its disgusting. "lets see how repubs like this" im sure they like it very much many, many people made this possible. many. people are making it seem like he repelled from a blackhawk in fatigues

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 10:58 AM
lets keep it poppin today

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:01 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>

not trying to add a Crusades war to the war on terror.
I remember a Crusader
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKRw0iIEvXZ0vb95l8rZT8okeEmrUou c_pWYQsRmtDpQuP0qXc

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 11:03 AM
gotta say im really not that impressed with austins highlights. he gets some good pushes but meehh. anyone else feel this way

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:03 AM
morning biznatchesI made a surprise visit to my branch last night. Sweet Melissa is very helpful/informative with questions, but she seems to get a little anxious/nervous when speaking in close proximity without the counter between herself and a very masculine male.
</p>


lmao</p>


i'd give her something to be nervous about. HEEYYYOOOOOO!!!!!! lol
i still dont know her....its not my fault tho =\</p>Does she come up in the computer? She is running the show there. It appears she's running the branch? That xmas party must of been a Bash!!! Too bad you blacked out and don't remember it. lol

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:06 AM
gotta say im really not that impressed with austins highlights. he gets some good pushes but meehh. anyone else feel this way
He should get good pushes-he was only 10 reps off of the combine record. Strong dude. I did 41 reps with my bodyweight at the time, that was 200 lbs in front of judges.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 11:10 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic


na i think that conspiracy theory is stupid for two reasons

A) some say we caught him during Bush's admin... yea right. Like Bush wouldn't of let that on his resume

B) The constant **** Obama has received during his tenure. He would be of been PRAISED and got a free term basically had he caught him early. It would of been in his interest to let this news out early as possible
killing obl is obamas ticket to re election. even though this whole operation started four years ago, and how did we obtain where obl was hiding? water boarding. obamas getting far to much credit imo, not that he doesnt deserve any. did you hear the ****s on the view? its disgusting. "lets see how repubs like this" im sure they like it very much many, many people made this possible. many. people are making it seem like he repelled from a blackhawk in fatigues


the whole operation started Sept 12 2011.

The house that he was living in started construction in 2005.

You have no clue how we got the info. Your tlaking out of ur *** about the water boarding.

oh please. Thats how it goes. If this happened during Bush's admin you wouldn't be saying that about Bush, you owuld be blowing him. As would I...

And your response is the exact point the twats on the View were trying to make, ironically

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 11:11 AM
gotta say im really not that impressed with austins highlights. he gets some good pushes but meehh. anyone else feel this way


na i love austins highlights... prince on the other hand

mehhhhhhh

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 11:16 AM
gotta say im really not that impressed with austins highlights. he gets some good pushes but meehh. anyone else feel this way
He should get good pushes-he was only 10 reps off of the combine record. Strong dude. I did 41 reps with my bodyweight at the time, that was 200 lbs in front of judges.
i did 10 pull ups once

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 11:23 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic


na i think that conspiracy theory is stupid for two reasons

A) some say we caught him during Bush's admin... yea right. Like Bush wouldn't of let that on his resume

B) The constant **** Obama has received during his tenure. He would be of been PRAISED and got a free term basically had he caught him early. It would of been in his interest to let this news out early as possible
killing obl is obamas ticket to re election. even though this whole operation started four years ago, and how did we obtain where obl was hiding? water boarding. obamas getting far to much credit imo, not that he doesnt deserve any. did you hear the ****s on the view? its disgusting. "lets see how repubs like this" im sure they like it very much many, many people made this possible. many. people are making it seem like he repelled from a blackhawk in fatigues


the whole operation started Sept 12 2011.

The house that he was living in started construction in 2005.

You have no clue how we got the info. Your tlaking out of ur *** about the water boarding.

oh please. Thats how it goes. If this happened during Bush's admin you wouldn't be saying that about Bush, you owuld be blowing him. As would I...

And your response is the exact point the twats on the View were trying to make, ironically
no it started 4 years ago. we got a tip from water boarding a member of al qaida. the lead cia agent on finding obl said it himself last night. i dont give a **** whos president, i dont like everyone saying obama/ bush got him. our soldiers got him. obama was sitting in a room on the other side of the world lol. give me a break. but this is the way it is.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 11:24 AM
gotta say im really not that impressed with austins highlights. he gets some good pushes but meehh. anyone else feel this way


na i love austins highlights... prince on the other hand

mehhhhhhh
do you know of any besides the one against boston? prince looks ok. hes fast a ****

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 11:27 AM
morning biznatchesI made a surprise visit to my branch last night. Sweet Melissa is very helpful/informative with questions, but she seems to get a little anxious/nervous when speaking in close proximity without the counter between herself and a very masculine male.
</P>


lmao</P>


i'd give her something to be nervous about. HEEYYYOOOOOO!!!!!! lol
i still dont know her....its not my fault tho =\</P>


Does she come up in the computer? She is running the show there. It appears she's running the branch? That xmas party must of been a Bash!!! Too bad you blacked out and don't remember it. lol
</P>


i know WHO she is, but I've never met her. worlds away! lol
yea it says shes a supervisor, I think there's 1 manager who runs both the putnam locations, and 1 supervisor maybe. i cant really tell
yea next year's party, im def. not going to black out...lol gotta maintain my composure to cause awkward work situations the next week =P</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 11:31 AM
OK I know there are some Obama bashers, but tell me this guy isnt moonlighting as a stand up comedian

“Donald Trump is here. I know he’s taken some flack recently, but no one is more ready to put the birth certificate issue to rest than the Donald, so he can focus real issues at hand facing America, like ‘Did we really land on the moon?’ ‘What really happened in Roswell?’ And, ‘Where are Biggie and Tupac?’"

"All kidding aside we all know about the Donalds credentials and experience, seriously, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, then mens cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, and there was alot of blame to go around and you Mr Trump realized it was a lack of leadership you didnt blame Lil Jon or Meatloaf but you fired Gary Busey. And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up tonight......Well handled sir, well handled....."

From the White House Correspondents Dinner (his Donald rant starts at 9:50) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E&amp;feature=player_embedded#at=728)
gotta say Obama is a funny dude..
Wasn't it the Al Q that desecrated US Soliders and hung their body parts and heads over a bridge and around the village? </p>


Bin Ladin deserved the same treatment. Disposing of his body at sea was much too civil for the evil that man has has created.</p>he definitely deserves it but no way the US should resort to such savagry..

the conspirist in me says he was captured many moons ago and has been brutally tortured daily until finally dying and they disposed of the body in the ocean. no proof of any of this just me being hopetimistic


na i think that conspiracy theory is stupid for two reasons

A) some say we caught him during Bush's admin... yea right. Like Bush wouldn't of let that on his resume

B) The constant **** Obama has received during his tenure. He would be of been PRAISED and got a free term basically had he caught him early. It would of been in his interest to let this news out early as possible
killing obl is obamas ticket to re election. even though this whole operation started four years ago, and how did we obtain where obl was hiding? water boarding. obamas getting far to much credit imo, not that he doesnt deserve any. did you hear the ****s on the view? its disgusting. "lets see how repubs like this" im sure they like it very much many, many people made this possible. many. people are making it seem like he repelled from a blackhawk in fatigues


the whole operation started Sept 12 2011.

The house that he was living in started construction in 2005.

You have no clue how we got the info. Your tlaking out of ur *** about the water boarding.

oh please. Thats how it goes. If this happened during Bush's admin you wouldn't be saying that about Bush, you owuld be blowing him. As would I...

And your response is the exact point the twats on the View were trying to make, ironically
no it started 4 years ago. we got a tip from water boarding a member of al qaida. the lead cia agent on finding obl said it himself last night. i dont give a **** whos president, i dont like everyone saying obama/ bush got him. our soldiers got him. obama was sitting in a room on the other side of the world lol. give me a break. but this is the way it is.


the conformation came in 2007, aka POST torture. Yes that guy was water boarded, but he didn't give up the info in 2005 which lead to the courier, that happened in 2007 - when he wasn't tortured.

So the torture itself didn't work. Hence waterboarding didn't work. I was for waterboarding until the facts came out, that they get more valid info by NOT torturing.

After talking to you for years about sports and politics, i have to say that i dont think ur being honest with yourself about if Bush found him how u would react.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 11:34 AM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 11:37 AM
gotta say im really not that impressed with austins highlights. he gets some good pushes but meehh. anyone else feel this way


na i love austins highlights... prince on the other hand

mehhhhhhh
do you know of any besides the one against boston? prince looks ok. hes fast a ****


i dind't like all the hands i saw prince use...

hes going to get flagged alot i think.

Still say u had to get it, hopfully im wrong

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 11:38 AM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs


again read the facts

yes the person they got the info from was waterboarded at one time but when they got the information the waterboarding was outlawed, HENCE, waterboarding was not the technique used that got the info...

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:38 AM
gotta say im really not that impressed with austins highlights. he gets some good pushes but meehh. anyone else feel this way
He should get good pushes-he was only 10 reps off of the combine record. Strong dude. I did 41 reps with my bodyweight at the time, that was 200 lbs in front of judges.
i did 10 pull ups once
ha, I set the school record in 7th grade with 17 chin-ups--knuckles facing you. Then my buddy George Gonzalez(gymnast, natural athlete, built like an adonis and never lifted a weight in his life) crushed my record a few years later with 23.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 11:38 AM
i wonder if pappy is having issues coming back to the states

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:40 AM
morning biznatchesI made a surprise visit to my branch last night. Sweet Melissa is very helpful/informative with questions, but she seems to get a little anxious/nervous when speaking in close proximity without the counter between herself and a very masculine male.
</p>


lmao</p>


i'd give her something to be nervous about. HEEYYYOOOOOO!!!!!! lol
i still dont know her....its not my fault tho =\</p>


Does she come up in the computer? She is running the show there. It appears she's running the branch? That xmas party must of been a Bash!!! Too bad you blacked out and don't remember it. lol
</p>


i know WHO she is, but I've never met her. worlds away! lol
yea it says shes a supervisor, I think there's 1 manager who runs both the putnam locations, and 1 supervisor maybe. i cant really tell
yea next year's party, im def. not going to black out...lol gotta maintain my composure to cause awkward work situations the next week =P</p>Yes-Def do that. I think this is just the one for you to impress with your profound insight and Rock Star legends...I think she's prime. December is a long time away--any softball games with bbq comining up?

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 11:41 AM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</P>


why do you care either way??</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:41 AM
i wonder if pappy is having issues coming back to the states
Good Point, everything is on high alert.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 11:42 AM
i wonder if pappy is having issues coming back to the states
</P>


he probably should have shaved the stache......</P>


=P</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:44 AM
gotta say im really not that impressed with austins highlights. he gets some good pushes but meehh. anyone else feel this way
He should get good pushes-he was only 10 reps off of the combine record. Strong dude. I did 41 reps with my bodyweight at the time, that was 200 lbs in front of judges.
i did 10 pull ups once
ha, I set the school record in 7th grade with 17 chin-ups--knuckles facing you. Then my buddy George Gonzalez(gymnast, natural athlete, built like an adonis and never lifted a weight in his life) crushed my record a few years later with 23.
Some kids spend their summer afternoons getting in trouble(we did too) but besides that we would see who could do the most pushups on fingers, knuckles, narrow, wide, feet elevated, upside down against wall, pull ups, chin ups, squat thrusts, sit ups, curls with a weight--anything you could think of. It was funny as hell when Dave Mitchell puked on like his 50th squat thrust. lmao.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 11:44 AM
morning biznatchesI made a surprise visit to my branch last night. Sweet Melissa is very helpful/informative with questions, but she seems to get a little anxious/nervous when speaking in close proximity without the counter between herself and a very masculine male.
</P>


lmao</P>


i'd give her something to be nervous about. HEEYYYOOOOOO!!!!!! lol
i still dont know her....its not my fault tho =\</P>


Does she come up in the computer? She is running the show there. It appears she's running the branch? That xmas party must of been a Bash!!! Too bad you blacked out and don't remember it. lol
</P>


i know WHO she is, but I've never met her. worlds away! lol
yea it says shes a supervisor, I think there's 1 manager who runs both the putnam locations, and 1 supervisor maybe. i cant really tell
yea next year's party, im def. not going to black out...lol gotta maintain my composure to cause awkward work situations the next week =P</P>


Yes-Def do that. I think this is just the one for you to impress with your profound insight and Rock Star legends...I think she's prime. December is a long time away--any softball games with bbq comining up?
</P>


yes actually....but i refuse to do any "extracuricular-CU activities" because they ban alcohol...and there's no chance in hell i'm spending a day with CU employees without being ****faced.
lol, i'm such an *******...</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 11:45 AM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</p>


why do you care either way??</p>cause liberals ***** that its torture and unconstitutional when weve thwarted attacks and saved american lives due to water boarding.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 11:48 AM
i want some bday ***!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gz39pjQohuQ/SX5V3nwlwtI/AAAAAAAAAu8/wc3jR8K0pGw/S240/heat.jpg

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:48 AM
i wonder if pappy is having issues coming back to the states
</p>


he probably should have shaved the stache......</p>


=P</p><font size="6"><font color="#ff0000">NO ---N E V E R
<font color="#000000"><font size="3">Pappi zigs when other's zag.</font></font>
</font></font>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:49 AM
i want some bday ***!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gz39pjQohuQ/SX5V3nwlwtI/AAAAAAAAAu8/wc3jR8K0pGw/S240/heat.jpg
Happy Birthday kid. How old today?

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 11:50 AM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</P>


why do you care either way??</P>


cause liberals ***** that its torture and unconstitutional when weve thwarted attacks and saved american lives due to water boarding.
</P>


it's over with....as far as I'm concerned, something like that likely wont happen for some time, so what needed to be done was done...and it's over.</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:52 AM
morning biznatchesI made a surprise visit to my branch last night. Sweet Melissa is very helpful/informative with questions, but she seems to get a little anxious/nervous when speaking in close proximity without the counter between herself and a very masculine male.
</p>


lmao</p>


i'd give her something to be nervous about. HEEYYYOOOOOO!!!!!! lol
i still dont know her....its not my fault tho =\</p>


Does she come up in the computer? She is running the show there. It appears she's running the branch? That xmas party must of been a Bash!!! Too bad you blacked out and don't remember it. lol
</p>


i know WHO she is, but I've never met her. worlds away! lol
yea it says shes a supervisor, I think there's 1 manager who runs both the putnam locations, and 1 supervisor maybe. i cant really tell
yea next year's party, im def. not going to black out...lol gotta maintain my composure to cause awkward work situations the next week =P</p>


Yes-Def do that. I think this is just the one for you to impress with your profound insight and Rock Star legends...I think she's prime. December is a long time away--any softball games with bbq comining up?
</p>


yes actually....but i refuse to do any "extracuricular-CU activities" because they ban alcohol...and there's no chance in hell i'm spending a day with CU employees without being ****faced.
lol, i'm such an *******...</p>After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 11:53 AM
i want some bday ***!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gz39pjQohuQ/SX5V3nwlwtI/AAAAAAAAAu8/wc3jR8K0pGw/S240/heat.jpg
Happy Birthday kid. How old today?
25.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 11:57 AM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</p>


why do you care either way??</p>

cuz its a political point for people who hate liberals

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 11:58 AM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</p>


why do you care either way??</p>cause liberals ***** that its torture and unconstitutional when weve thwarted attacks and saved american lives due to water boarding.


i love how u ignore every point made and still just stick to ur opinion

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 11:59 AM
i want some bday ***!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gz39pjQohuQ/SX5V3nwlwtI/AAAAAAAAAu8/wc3jR8K0pGw/S240/heat.jpg
Happy Birthday kid. How old today?
25.
Nice number....
Here is my Birthday Gift to You &amp; Many More.

http://youtu.be/4EVjDx5GVmU (http://)

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSvQRqen8Jo-guS7xVKXxlh0PUh-Iz-TWSafCLOQa2y4vcjzxabjg

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 12:01 PM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</p>


why do you care either way??</p>cause liberals ***** that its torture and unconstitutional when weve thwarted attacks and saved american lives due to water boarding.


i love how u ignore every point made and still just stick to ur opinion
no i just gave up. lol im not changing your mind and youre not changing mine.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 12:02 PM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs


again read the facts

yes the person they got the info from was waterboarded at one time but when they got the information the waterboarding was outlawed, HENCE, waterboarding was not the technique used that got the info...


Thought he was gonna close gitmo...we wouldn't even have him in custody to question if it were up to him...but whatev's

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I J</P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</P>


lol....commented </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</P>


lol....commented on </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</P>


lol....commented on a </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</P>


lol....commented on a photo i was </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</P>


lol....commented on a photo i was viewing </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</P>


lol....commented on a photo i w</P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</P>


lol....commented on a photo </P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</P>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</P>


lol....commented on a photo i was viewing lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 12:04 PM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</p>


why do you care either way??</p>cause liberals ***** that its torture and unconstitutional when weve thwarted attacks and saved american lives due to water boarding.


i love how u ignore every point made and still just stick to ur opinion
no i just gave up. lol im not changing your mind and youre not changing mine.


so ur just going to ignor the fact that what ur saying is factually incorrect.

its not really a matter of opinion

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 12:05 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</p>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG </p>

hey did u find daven on reddit?

im curious

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:05 PM
umm...matt....why did my post just do that??

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:07 PM
im bicurious
</P>


dude, i clicked POST, then went to another tab to read something....I clicked back here, and I got a message that my posts were awaiting moderator approval. lol...i was like wtf, whatd I do?!?
you can go delete all that BS if youd like lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 12:09 PM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs


again read the facts

yes the person they got the info from was waterboarded at one time but when they got the information the waterboarding was outlawed, HENCE, waterboarding was not the technique used that got the info...


Thought he was gonna close gitmo...we wouldn't even have him in custody to question if it were up to him...but whatev's


or correcting what its done wrong is just as good...

along with getting intel without water boarding means he was right in the end

and not that i'm against waterboarding if its effective. I dont care, i'm not fighting for these scumbags rights. They aren't American, i don't care what happens to them. Far as i'm concerned they are just as much to blame as bin laden. But the studies show that u get less with waterboarding

and as much as dez is trying to say waterboarding was effective because this guy was once waterboarded is just plain stupid. This info was not given up during the time he was being water boarded, it happened years later when the waterboarding was stopped.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 12:09 PM
im bicurious
</p>


dude, i clicked POST, then went to another tab to read something....I clicked back here, and I got a message that my posts were awaiting moderator approval. lol...i was like wtf, whatd I do?!?
you can go delete all that BS if youd like lol</p>

prolly a virus from all the porn sites u visit

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:12 PM
im bicurious
</P>


dude, i clicked POST, then went to another tab to read something....I clicked back here, and I got a message that my posts were awaiting moderator approval. lol...i was like wtf, whatd I do?!?
you can go delete all that BS if youd like lol</P>




prolly a virus from all the porn sites u visit
</P>


true...I cant stay off the places while im at work! i'm a fiend.
it's an addiction...dont judge me.</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 12:13 PM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</p>


why do you care either way??</p>cause liberals ***** that its torture and unconstitutional when weve thwarted attacks and saved american lives due to water boarding.


i love how u ignore every point made and still just stick to ur opinion
no i just gave up. lol im not changing your mind and youre not changing mine.


so ur just going to ignor the fact that what ur saying is factually incorrect.

its not really a matter of opinion
whats factually incorrect? you have no proof he wasnt water boarded. they just say he wasnt. i herd a cia agent say it lead to someone that knew the location of where he was during the bush admin 4 years ago. or something like that. i believe a cia spook over a president who has an agenda any day.

ny06
05-03-2011, 12:14 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <FONT color=#980001>had a few things to say on Twitter</FONT> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:14 PM
After you two hook up...then you could take her out for Drinks. I could see it now:

"Yo baby, are you down with JPP from Po-keeepsie" ........well if you don't, here's your membership.
</p>


lololol.....
whats funny is, if she walked in here right now, I probably wouldnt even know who she was...lol, i'd just give her the up and down, and tell my coworkers to check her out..lol

OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!</p>


lol....commented on a </p>Can u post it?

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:16 PM
im bicurious
</p>


dude, i clicked POST, then went to another tab to read something....I clicked back here, and I got a message that my posts were awaiting moderator approval. lol...i was like wtf, whatd I do?!?
you can go delete all that BS if youd like lol</p>I have never seen that happen before--then they posted with additional letters or words each time. Board acting up? Matt--When is official date of the new forum install?

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 12:19 PM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs


again read the facts

yes the person they got the info from was waterboarded at one time but when they got the information the waterboarding was outlawed, HENCE, waterboarding was not the technique used that got the info...


Thought he was gonna close gitmo...we wouldn't even have him in custody to question if it were up to him...but whatev's


or correcting what its done wrong is just as good...

along with getting intel without water boarding means he was right in the end

and not that i'm against waterboarding if its effective. I dont care, i'm not fighting for these scumbags rights. They aren't American, i don't care what happens to them. Far as i'm concerned they are just as much to blame as bin laden. But the studies show that u get less with waterboarding

a<u>nd as much as dez is trying to say waterboarding was effective because this guy was once waterboarded is just plain stupid. This info was not given up during the time he was being water boarded, it happened years later when the waterboarding was stopped.</u>
you have no proof. and no it doesnt show he was right in the end. obl isnt the end. even if they didnt use it here, its just one out of thousands of different scenarios.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 12:22 PM
or correcting what its done wrong is just as good...

supporters of Obama always do this and it annoys me.

He promised unemployment wouldn't go over 8% when it did you say...well it's not his fault, it's Bush's fault

He promised transparency then made more backroom deals and used more underhanded tricks then Bush ever did to pass his Health Care, when I bring that up you say...All Presidents do that.

He promised to close Gitmo...he didn't deliver and it turns out that had he delivered we probably wouldn't have obtained information that lead to finding Osama, and you say...well correcting what was wrong in Gitmo is just as good.


Stop making excuses for the guy, we he says he's gonna do something he should get it done...A promise from Obama is worth nothing, it's almost like you are guaranteed that what he says he's going to do isn't going to be done.

I don't want to be Anti-Obama today...because right now it's not gonna be popular because of the recent accomplishment....but the constant excuse making for him by his rabid fan base is highly annoying.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:24 PM
ummmmmmmm</P>


http://i.imgur.com/YObD8.jpg</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:27 PM
or correcting what its done wrong is just as good...

supporters of Obama always do this and it annoys me.

He promised unemployment wouldn't go over 8% when it did you say...well it's not his fault, it's Bush's fault

He promised transparency then made more backroom deals and used more underhanded tricks then Bush ever did to pass his Health Care, when I bring that up you say...All Presidents do that.

He promised to close Gitmo...he didn't deliver and it turns out that had he delivered we probably wouldn't have obtained information that lead to finding Osama, and you say...well correcting what was wrong in Gitmo is just as good.


Stop making excuses for the guy, we he says he's gonna do something he should get it done...A promise from Obama is worth nothing, it's almost like you are guaranteed that what he says he's going to do isn't going to be done.

I don't want to be Anti-Obama today...because right now it's not gonna be popular because of the recent accomplishment....but the constant excuse making for him by his rabid fan base is highly annoying.


+1 What he said.

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:28 PM
ummmmmmmm</p>


http://i.imgur.com/YObD8.jpg</p>What ball did he think he was going to grab? lmao.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 12:28 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??

ny06
05-03-2011, 12:28 PM
ummmmmmmm</P>


http://i.imgur.com/YObD8.jpg</P>


</P>


It's a Queensbridge thing</P>

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 12:29 PM
OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!

Stop stalking me :P

ny06
05-03-2011, 12:30 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
</P>


$$$$$$$$</P>

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 12:30 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??


Money?

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:31 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
</p>


$$$$$$$$</p>Bingo

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:31 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
</p>


$$$$$$$$</p>BingoI bet they don't even let their man touch them.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:32 PM
I found this...
not that i give 2 ****s, but i love throwing gas on fires...</P>


http://i.imgur.com/Ncmwo.jpg

READYYYYYY GO!!!!!</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 12:33 PM
or correcting what its done wrong is just as good...

supporters of Obama always do this and it annoys me.

He promised unemployment wouldn't go over 8% when it did you say...well it's not his fault, it's Bush's fault

He promised transparency then made more backroom deals and used more underhanded tricks then Bush ever did to pass his Health Care, when I bring that up you say...All Presidents do that.

He promised to close Gitmo...he didn't deliver and it turns out that had he delivered we probably wouldn't have obtained information that lead to finding Osama, and you say...well correcting what was wrong in Gitmo is just as good.


Stop making excuses for the guy, we he says he's gonna do something he should get it done...A promise from Obama is worth nothing, it's almost like you are guaranteed that what he says he's going to do isn't going to be done.

I don't want to be Anti-Obama today...because right now it's not gonna be popular because of the recent accomplishment....but the constant excuse making for him by his rabid fan base is highly annoying.


and lets not forget him and holder wanting 9/11 trials in downtown manhattan. what a brilliant idea that was. they flipped on that cause they realized how dumb it was but now we have to wait at least another 3-4 years for them to be tried by the military like we were in the first place.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:34 PM
OMG I JUST FOUND DAVEN ON REDDIT!!

Stop stalking me :P
</P>


=D</P>


i cant help it....plus, this place has been dead up till this past week or so, so i spend alot of time there lol</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 12:35 PM
-Abbottabad sounds like the name americans would make up if someone asked them where they thought bin ladin would be" jon stewart. lol dont really like the guy but that was funny.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 12:38 PM
now obamas people are scrambling to say that water boarding didnt lead to his capture after the head cia agent in charge of finding him said so. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? lol what bs
</p>


why do you care either way??</p>cause liberals ***** that its torture and unconstitutional when weve thwarted attacks and saved american lives due to water boarding.


i love how u ignore every point made and still just stick to ur opinion
no i just gave up. lol im not changing your mind and youre not changing mine.


so ur just going to ignor the fact that what ur saying is factually incorrect.

its not really a matter of opinion
whats factually incorrect? you have no proof he wasnt water boarded. they just say he wasnt. i herd a cia agent say it lead to someone that knew the location of where he was during the bush admin 4 years ago. or something like that. i believe a cia spook over a president who has an agenda any day.


actually if u read the reports it is true

they admit he WAS a waterboard victim in like 2007. They say they got the info when the stopped waterboarding...

lol yea cuz no CIA agent could have an agenda?

They said they got the intel in 2009

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 12:39 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <font color="#980001">had a few things to say on Twitter</font> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:39 PM
-Abbottabad sounds like the name americans would make up if someone asked them where they thought bin ladin would be" jon stewart. lol dont really like the guy but that was funny.
lol, I give him that one.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 12:40 PM
im bicurious
</p>


dude, i clicked POST, then went to another tab to read something....I clicked back here, and I got a message that my posts were awaiting moderator approval. lol...i was like wtf, whatd I do?!?
you can go delete all that BS if youd like lol</p>I have never seen that happen before--then they posted with additional letters or words each time. Board acting up? Matt--When is official date of the new forum install?


may not happen now... alot of the mods don't like the new boards...

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:40 PM
-Abbottabad sounds like the name americans would make up if someone asked them where they thought bin ladin would be" jon stewart. lol dont really like the guy but that was funny.
</P>


talk Abbottabad place to hide!</P>


lolololololololol</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:43 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <font color="#980001">had a few things to say on Twitter</font> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg
What a ****ing nit-wit. Yes, I only heard one side of the story from 9/11 and I am making false assumptions about Bin-laden?

Btw--Are any of you verified on Twitter?

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 12:44 PM
they admit he WAS a waterboard victim in like 2007. They say they got the info when the stopped waterboarding...

Stopped waterboarding and started........?

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:45 PM
im bicurious
</p>


dude, i clicked POST, then went to another tab to read something....I clicked back here, and I got a message that my posts were awaiting moderator approval. lol...i was like wtf, whatd I do?!?
you can go delete all that BS if youd like lol</p>I have never seen that happen before--then they posted with additional letters or words each time. Board acting up? Matt--When is official date of the new forum install?


may not happen now... alot of the mods don't like the new boards...


Are you serious? --that's because they don't use the boards heavily like we do. In internet explorer at home, I get "syntax message code errors" sometimes it take 4-5 times to get a post to go thru.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:46 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <FONT color=#980001>had a few things to say on Twitter</FONT> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg
What a ****ing nit-wit. Yes, I only heard one side of the story from 9/11 and I am making false assumptions about Bin-laden?

Btw--Are any of you verified on Twitter?
</P>


i have an account, dont use it often. whats verified mean?</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 12:49 PM
I found this...
not that i give 2 ****s, but i love throwing gas on fires...</p>


http://i.imgur.com/Ncmwo.jpg

READYYYYYY GO!!!!!</p>well obama didnt work with pakistani intel ovbiously or we would of let them in or at least informed them on the raid. and **** them. we send them billions a year. they knew he was there. and obama didnt know obl was in pakistan when he was campaigning. hes really bad with geography if you ever herd him speak on forgien affairs. theres no way he could of known for sure. the cia wasnt even sure where he was. the main goal in afghan was to always go after bin ladin, alqaida, and the taliban and make sure afghan can govern itself. no matter how anyone tries to spin it. if anything obamas hurt the overall war effort by putting rules of engagement in place. my cousin whos over there now is none to happy about it. they cant engage the enemy unless fired upon, these are marines not police officers. cant call in arty/airsupport unless fired upon. were fighting with one hand tied behind our back.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 12:51 PM
-Abbottabad sounds like the name americans would make up if someone asked them where they thought bin ladin would be" jon stewart. lol dont really like the guy but that was funny.
</p>


talk Abbottabad place to hide!</p>


lolololololololol</p>hahahahahahahahaaaaaa gooood **** pizz

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:51 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <font color="#980001">had a few things to say on Twitter</font> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg
What a ****ing nit-wit. Yes, I only heard one side of the story from 9/11 and I am making false assumptions about Bin-laden?

Btw--Are any of you verified on Twitter?
</p>


i have an account, dont use it often. whats verified mean?</p>I didn't know about verified until Ronnie the limo driver(Howard sterns limo guy) talked about it. Twitter somehow verifies who you are, I think. MMB--Do you know about that?

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 12:58 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <FONT color=#980001>had a few things to say on Twitter</FONT> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg
What a ****ing nit-wit. Yes, I only heard one side of the story from 9/11 and I am making false assumptions about Bin-laden?

Btw--Are any of you verified on Twitter?
</P>


i have an account, dont use it often. whats verified mean?</P>


I didn't know about verified until Ronnie the limo driver(Howard sterns limo guy) talked about it. Twitter somehow verifies who you are, I think. MMB--Do you know about that?
</P>


ohhhhh... that term is for celebrities usually...
cuz i can make a twitter claiming that I'm Michael Jordan, and who's going to argue that? I dont know the process of how ppl get verified.</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 12:58 PM
-Abbottabad sounds like the name americans would make up if someone asked them where they thought bin ladin would be" jon stewart. lol dont really like the guy but that was funny.
</p>


talk Abbottabad place to hide!</p>


lolololololololol</p>hahahahahahahahaaaaaa gooood **** pizz
Have a happy B-day lunch Dezzz

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3CGv_DDlBLTv5EIOtWNu4Ch-6zI1epOkwUA95USo-6I63JC5a

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 01:00 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <font color="#980001">had a few things to say on Twitter</font> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg
What a ****ing nit-wit. Yes, I only heard one side of the story from 9/11 and I am making false assumptions about Bin-laden?

Btw--Are any of you verified on Twitter?
</p>


i have an account, dont use it often. whats verified mean?</p>


I didn't know about verified until Ronnie the limo driver(Howard sterns limo guy) talked about it. Twitter somehow verifies who you are, I think. MMB--Do you know about that?
</p>


ohhhhh... that term is for celebrities usually...
cuz i can make a twitter claiming that I'm Michael Jordan, and who's going to argue that? I dont know the process of how ppl get verified.</p>I had the same exact question.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:03 PM
or correcting what its done wrong is just as good...

supporters of Obama always do this and it annoys me.

He promised unemployment wouldn't go over 8% when it did you say...well it's not his fault, it's Bush's fault

He promised transparency then made more backroom deals and used more underhanded tricks then Bush ever did to pass his Health Care, when I bring that up you say...All Presidents do that.

He promised to close Gitmo...he didn't deliver and it turns out that had he delivered we probably wouldn't have obtained information that lead to finding Osama, and you say...well correcting what was wrong in Gitmo is just as good.


Stop making excuses for the guy, we he says he's gonna do something he should get it done...A promise from Obama is worth nothing, it's almost like you are guaranteed that what he says he's going to do isn't going to be done.

I don't want to be Anti-Obama today...because right now it's not gonna be popular because of the recent accomplishment....but the constant excuse making for him by his rabid fan base is highly annoying.





Lol that was the goal to not let unemployment go over 8%. To suggest that this wasn't inevitable due to prior administrations is a cop out for Obama haters. Bush swore to protect our country but 9/11 happened, did anybody blame him besides conspiracy theorists?

And things have been plenty of transparent. To suggets backdoor deals have increased is just so unfounded. What are you comparing that against? All of your insider knowkledge of the Bush administration? The backdoor deal argument is SUCHHHH a stretch and its what weakens Republican points to any logical thinker. Unfortunately, this country doesn't have alot of logic to it which can basically go back to the majority vote that got bush into office: because of his religious beliefs.

And this is actually eerily similiar to the Eli debtaes that have gone on the boards thorughout the years. The haters hate have been so rampant and unjust that the hands been forced. The fact that you blame the recession on Obama and the fact that he didn't SHUT DOWN Gitmo, but just changed the points that he wanted to shut it down for just shows how far you are stretching.

Then the typical republican thing which has gone on since Sunday night, grin the teeth and compliment then do whatever you can to try and make it as a negative FOR OBama: he didn't actually do it, see he was wrong about waterboarding....

its totally mutual and I would have to see the Obama supporters have been more of the defense than the attack

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 01:04 PM
-Abbottabad sounds like the name americans would make up if someone asked them where they thought bin ladin would be" jon stewart. lol dont really like the guy but that was funny.
</p>


talk Abbottabad place to hide!</p>


lolololololololol</p>hahahahahahahahaaaaaa gooood **** pizz
Have a happy B-day lunch Dezzz

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3CGv_DDlBLTv5EIOtWNu4Ch-6zI1epOkwUA95USo-6I63JC5a
if pizzed lost the glasses and grew his hair and a stache, gained a few pounds, wed have a new younger ron jeremy, lol

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:05 PM
they admit he WAS a waterboard victim in like 2007. They say they got the info when the stopped waterboarding...

Stopped waterboarding and started........?


please read the real reports about it and not some ****in REpublican congressman who really wasn't there at all and had no real reports on the matter

They got plenty of misinformation in the process as well... they have the studies saying that the **** doesn't work. If it did ,again, i'd say chop a finger off til u get all the info u need... while i'm democrat i'm not a bleeding heart liberal, though i do believe in some things they say

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:14 PM
I found this...
not that i give 2 ****s, but i love throwing gas on fires...</p>


http://i.imgur.com/Ncmwo.jpg

READYYYYYY GO!!!!!</p>well obama didnt work with pakistani intel ovbiously or we would of let them in or at least informed them on the raid. and **** them. we send them billions a year. they knew he was there. and obama didnt know obl was in pakistan when he was campaigning. hes really bad with geography if you ever herd him speak on forgien affairs. theres no way he could of known for sure. the cia wasnt even sure where he was. the main goal in afghan was to always go after bin ladin, alqaida, and the taliban and make sure afghan can govern itself. no matter how anyone tries to spin it. if anything obamas hurt the overall war effort by putting rules of engagement in place. my cousin whos over there now is none to happy about it. they cant engage the enemy unless fired upon, these are marines not police officers. cant call in arty/airsupport unless fired upon. were fighting with one hand tied behind our back.


false, they DID work with Pakistani intel. This mission was just done without their knowledge, but even in that there is something fishy about that. Three helicoptors filled of navy seals are flying across country lines of two countries that have issues and the Pakistani's didn't notice? That doesn't really add up.

Not to mention that this was basically a city, this wasn't like huts in the sand. There was a drug store across the street. Pakistans government is obviously corrupted and has alot of leaks. Somebody HAD to of been involved. Theres no way logically that all of this could of happene.

You can't take anything Obama said about where he thought the where abouts of UBL was for anything. Obviously for common sense reasons, he wouldn't publically announce where he thought he was. Could we at least agree on that?

The rules of engagement probably stopped this from being an all out war against the Muslims.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 01:16 PM
To suggets backdoor deals have increased is just so unfounded.

I mean, I'll just give one example but there are more if you look, during the Health Care struggle there was a senator (I forget his name) who voted against the bill on the Dem side, Obama had him over to the white house, the next day the senators brother was given a Job as a pretty high ranking judge 2 or 3 steps below the supreme court, and the senator all the sudden changed his mind....stuff like that has gone on more during this presidency then any other I remember, it's not unfonded, it's pretty obvious..that said did bush do similar things and get away with it...maybe he did...but he didn't promise transparency...Obama DID.


The fact that you blame the recession on Obama

I don't, and you know that, but I do think his plan to pull us out of the recession made the situation infinitely worse


and the fact that he didn't SHUT DOWN Gitmo, but just changed the points that he wanted to shut it down for just shows how far you are stretching.


I'm not stretching at all, if you want me to stretch I can....this is just things that should be clear to everyone...even YOU, Obama makes promises..but almost never follows through with them...I just want you guys to stop making excuses for his failures....he promised to shut down gitmo...it didn't happen...he failed...he didn't deliver...period END OF DISCUSSION....not...(but he changed it so its ok) not (Well it wasn't really his fault) not (The Repubs wouldn't let him...) none of that junk matt... HE FAILED to do what he said he was going to do...in Gitmo...and in many many other promises he made as well....that's not a stretch matt that's just the facts.




Then the typical republican thing which has gone on since Sunday night, grin the teeth and compliment then do whatever you can to try and make it as a negative FOR OBama: he didn't actually do it, see he was wrong about waterboarding....

its totally mutual and I would have to see the Obama supporters have been more of the defense than the attack


I don't really get what you are trying to say here.....

anyhow lunch time.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 01:16 PM
Double post.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:16 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <font color="#980001">had a few things to say on Twitter</font> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg
What a ****ing nit-wit. Yes, I only heard one side of the story from 9/11 and I am making false assumptions about Bin-laden?

Btw--Are any of you verified on Twitter?
</p>


i have an account, dont use it often. whats verified mean?</p>I didn't know about verified until Ronnie the limo driver(Howard sterns limo guy) talked about it. Twitter somehow verifies who you are, I think. MMB--Do you know about that?


yea if ur famous i think twitter will contact ur people some how to make sure its you. Its like the "THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF " version of twitter

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 01:19 PM
they admit he WAS a waterboard victim in like 2007. They say they got the info when the stopped waterboarding...

Stopped waterboarding and started........?


please read the real reports about it and not some ****in REpublican congressman who really wasn't there at all and had no real reports on the matter

They got plenty of misinformation in the process as well... they have the studies saying that the **** doesn't work. If it did ,again, i'd say chop a finger off til u get all the info u need... while i'm democrat i'm not a bleeding heart liberal, though i do believe in some things they say


your missing my point matt...

you keep going on and on about how they got the info after they stopped waterboarding....fine I believe that...so how did they get the information, instead of waterboarding what method did they use?

shocknaweny
05-03-2011, 01:27 PM
Stupid ****ing Piladelphia Flyer...****ing me out of my survuval pool...I hsould've know not to count on that useless **** bag city for anything !!!

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 01:36 PM
I found this...
not that i give 2 ****s, but i love throwing gas on fires...</p>


http://i.imgur.com/Ncmwo.jpg

READYYYYYY GO!!!!!</p>well obama didnt work with pakistani intel ovbiously or we would of let them in or at least informed them on the raid. and **** them. we send them billions a year. they knew he was there. and obama didnt know obl was in pakistan when he was campaigning. hes really bad with geography if you ever herd him speak on forgien affairs. theres no way he could of known for sure. the cia wasnt even sure where he was. the main goal in afghan was to always go after bin ladin, alqaida, and the taliban and make sure afghan can govern itself. no matter how anyone tries to spin it. if anything obamas hurt the overall war effort by putting rules of engagement in place. my cousin whos over there now is none to happy about it. they cant engage the enemy unless fired upon, these are marines not police officers. cant call in arty/airsupport unless fired upon. were fighting with one hand tied behind our back.


false, they DID work with Pakistani intel. This mission was just done without their knowledge, but even in that there is something fishy about that. Three helicoptors filled of navy seals are flying across country lines of two countries that have issues and the Pakistani's didn't notice? That doesn't really add up.

Not to mention that this was basically a city, this wasn't like huts in the sand. There was a drug store across the street. Pakistans government is obviously corrupted and has alot of leaks. Somebody HAD to of been involved. Theres no way logically that all of this could of happene.

You can't take anything Obama said about where he thought the where abouts of UBL was for anything. Obviously for common sense reasons, he wouldn't publically announce where he thought he was. Could we at least agree on that?

<u>The rules of engagement probably stopped this from being an all out war against the Muslims.</u>
i agree with what you said above that. he couldnt of known. just campaign bs being thrown back and forth from both sides. but no way in hell have these rules of engagement done anything but hurt us. obamas afraid of "civilian casualties". i put that in quotes because 9 time out of 10 theyre the combatants family. theyre cowards. as long as we fight a politically correct war were not winning ****. 50 years ago we wouldnt of stopped carpet bombing until they told us where he was. if we played it like that from the beginning we probably would of got him within the first few years. the russians would of won in afghan if we didnt send the afghanis stingers to shoot down their helicopters and jets and other equipment. the russians would literally whip out whole tribes. not saying we need to be doing that by any means. americans arent butchers, but we shouldnt be playing right into our enemies hand either. we need to go on the hunt and kill our enemies, not play police officer until were attacked.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 01:37 PM
Stupid ****ing Piladelphia Flyer...****ing me out of my survuval pool...I hsould've know not to count on that useless **** bag city for anything !!!</P>


"Jim, you KNOW New Yorkers don't consider Philadelphia a legitimate sports town..."</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:39 PM
To suggets backdoor deals have increased is just so unfounded.

I mean, I'll just give one example but there are more if you look, during the Health Care struggle there was a senator (I forget his name) who voted against the bill on the Dem side, Obama had him over to the white house, the next day the senators brother was given a Job as a pretty high ranking judge 2 or 3 steps below the supreme court, and the senator all the sudden changed his mind....stuff like that has gone on more during this presidency then any other I remember, it's not unfonded, it's pretty obvious..that said did bush do similar things and get away with it...maybe he did...but he didn't promise transparency...Obama DID.


The fact that you blame the recession on Obama

I don't, and you know that, but I do think his plan to pull us out of the recession made the situation infinitely worse


and the fact that he didn't SHUT DOWN Gitmo, but just changed the points that he wanted to shut it down for just shows how far you are stretching.


I'm not stretching at all, if you want me to stretch I can....this is just things that should be clear to everyone...even YOU, Obama makes promises..but almost never follows through with them...I just want you guys to stop making excuses for his failures....he promised to shut down gitmo...it didn't happen...he failed...he didn't deliver...period END OF DISCUSSION....not...(but he changed it so its ok) not (Well it wasn't really his fault) not (The Repubs wouldn't let him...) none of that junk matt... HE FAILED to do what he said he was going to do...in Gitmo...and in many many other promises he made as well....that's not a stretch matt that's just the facts.




Then the typical republican thing which has gone on since Sunday night, grin the teeth and compliment then do whatever you can to try and make it as a negative FOR OBama: he didn't actually do it, see he was wrong about waterboarding....

its totally mutual and I would have to see the Obama supporters have been more of the defense than the attack


I don't really get what you are trying to say here.....

anyhow lunch time.


its politics daven. That **** happens with EVERYONE. While its a good point, its also a moot one. What about all of the Republicans who have flipped their stances on millions of topics during Obamas campaign to joi nthe majority of the party's opinion, regardless of their own beliefs on what would be good for the country.

Well i disagree. Hes run alot of things to try and pull this country through. What hes doing with GM and Ford is possibly putting them on the map. The spending number thats high is just so short sighted. The economy spending is at all time high, but thats because this was never an over night fix. You have to spend money in the future to get out of this. Theres no way we could of went the way we were going and it just would of been okay. He made moves and most neutral economists agree with the spending hes done. KEY WORD NUETRAL.

you act like because its not #1 on the list of things to do that it sOBama going back on his word. Would this of passed by now had the Senate and House not veto'd a bill to renovate the new jail they want to build in Illinoise? More than likely. White House has maintained that this is still on the "to do" list and now that BL is done, it may even help. The savings on cost (projected 1/10 of the 2billion we spend on it now) and the image we would uphold to the Muslim community would be great. This could of been the movement in dealing with terrorists that sparks this whole thing up agian... Quite frankly while I would like it to be handled, it shouldn't be atop the list of things that needs to be fixed most immediatly in this country

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:39 PM
Stupid ****ing Piladelphia Flyer...****ing me out of my survuval pool...I hsould've know not to count on that useless **** bag city for anything !!!</p>


"Jim, you KNOW New Yorkers don't consider Philadelphia a legitimate sports town..."</p>

lol great commercial

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 01:42 PM
Stupid ****ing Piladelphia Flyer...****ing me out of my survuval pool...I hsould've know not to count on that useless **** bag city for anything !!!</P>


"Jim, you KNOW New Yorkers don't consider Philadelphia a legitimate sports town..."</P>




lol great commercial
</P>


agreed. one of the greatest</P>


"Go ahead and celebrate in April, Jim....we'll celebrate in October"
"You will be DEAD BY OCTOBER!!!!"</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:43 PM
I found this...
not that i give 2 ****s, but i love throwing gas on fires...</p>


http://i.imgur.com/Ncmwo.jpg

READYYYYYY GO!!!!!</p>well obama didnt work with pakistani intel ovbiously or we would of let them in or at least informed them on the raid. and **** them. we send them billions a year. they knew he was there. and obama didnt know obl was in pakistan when he was campaigning. hes really bad with geography if you ever herd him speak on forgien affairs. theres no way he could of known for sure. the cia wasnt even sure where he was. the main goal in afghan was to always go after bin ladin, alqaida, and the taliban and make sure afghan can govern itself. no matter how anyone tries to spin it. if anything obamas hurt the overall war effort by putting rules of engagement in place. my cousin whos over there now is none to happy about it. they cant engage the enemy unless fired upon, these are marines not police officers. cant call in arty/airsupport unless fired upon. were fighting with one hand tied behind our back.


false, they DID work with Pakistani intel. This mission was just done without their knowledge, but even in that there is something fishy about that. Three helicoptors filled of navy seals are flying across country lines of two countries that have issues and the Pakistani's didn't notice? That doesn't really add up.

Not to mention that this was basically a city, this wasn't like huts in the sand. There was a drug store across the street. Pakistans government is obviously corrupted and has alot of leaks. Somebody HAD to of been involved. Theres no way logically that all of this could of happene.

You can't take anything Obama said about where he thought the where abouts of UBL was for anything. Obviously for common sense reasons, he wouldn't publically announce where he thought he was. Could we at least agree on that?

<u>The rules of engagement probably stopped this from being an all out war against the Muslims.</u>
i agree with what you said above that. he couldnt of known. just campaign bs being thrown back and forth from both sides. but no way in hell have these rules of engagement done anything but hurt us. obamas afraid of "civilian casualties". i put that in quotes because 9 time out of 10 theyre the combatants family. theyre cowards. as long as we fight a politically correct war were not winning ****. 50 years ago we wouldnt of stopped carpet bombing until they told us where he was. if we played it like that from the beginning we probably would of got him within the first few years. the russians would of won in afghan if we didnt send the afghanis stingers to shoot down their helicopters and jets and other equipment. the russians would literally whip out whole tribes. not saying we need to be doing that by any means. americans arent butchers, but we shouldnt be playing right into our enemies hand either. we need to go on the hunt and kill our enemies, not play police officer until were attacked.


Dezz you really just pull **** out of ur ***... you remind me of that politician thats trying to close Planned Parenthood and said that they account for 90% of the abortions in this country when its some type of small percent like 5 or something like that.

9 out of 10 are combatants is just such a stupid thing to say. Well last time i checked, "FROM THE BEGGINNIG" wasn't Obama, that was ur boy Bush.

The number of actual terrorists to the population is under 1% dezz, you say u dont want to be a butcher but everything else u are suggesting is different. 50 years ago we weren't fighting gangs, we were fighting countries

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 01:43 PM
I found this...
not that i give 2 ****s, but i love throwing gas on fires...</p>


http://i.imgur.com/Ncmwo.jpg

READYYYYYY GO!!!!!</p>well obama didnt work with pakistani intel ovbiously or we would of let them in or at least informed them on the raid. and **** them. we send them billions a year. they knew he was there. and obama didnt know obl was in pakistan when he was campaigning. hes really bad with geography if you ever herd him speak on forgien affairs. theres no way he could of known for sure. the cia wasnt even sure where he was. the main goal in afghan was to always go after bin ladin, alqaida, and the taliban and make sure afghan can govern itself. no matter how anyone tries to spin it. if anything obamas hurt the overall war effort by putting rules of engagement in place. my cousin whos over there now is none to happy about it. they cant engage the enemy unless fired upon, these are marines not police officers. cant call in arty/airsupport unless fired upon. were fighting with one hand tied behind our back.


false, they DID work with Pakistani intel. This mission was just done without their knowledge, but even in that there is something fishy about that. Three helicoptors filled of navy seals are flying across country lines of two countries that have issues and the Pakistani's didn't notice? That doesn't really add up.

Not to mention that this was basically a city, this wasn't like huts in the sand. There was a drug store across the street. Pakistans government is obviously corrupted and has alot of leaks. Somebody HAD to of been involved. Theres no way logically that all of this could of happene.

You can't take anything Obama said about where he thought the where abouts of UBL was for anything. Obviously for common sense reasons, he wouldn't publically announce where he thought he was. Could we at least agree on that?

The rules of engagement probably stopped this from being an all out war against the Muslims.
pakistans not the most up to date army, we could of easily flown in undetected. what i wonder is why obl didnt try and run when he herd the choppers. theyre saying that have some mufflers on them but still theyre loud when that close. its not false obama didnt let the pakistanis in on this cause like you said theyre currupt. of course we worked with paki intel over the past 10 years but i dont think we let them in on much or vise versa, obviously. it really gets my goat that they knew. they had to know.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:45 PM
they admit he WAS a waterboard victim in like 2007. They say they got the info when the stopped waterboarding...

Stopped waterboarding and started........?


please read the real reports about it and not some ****in REpublican congressman who really wasn't there at all and had no real reports on the matter

They got plenty of misinformation in the process as well... they have the studies saying that the **** doesn't work. If it did ,again, i'd say chop a finger off til u get all the info u need... while i'm democrat i'm not a bleeding heart liberal, though i do believe in some things they say


your missing my point matt...

you keep going on and on about how they got the info after they stopped waterboarding....fine I believe that...so how did they get the information, instead of waterboarding what method did they use?


they said MANY different ways.

"Some of it came from individuals who were in custody. Some of it came
from human sources," counterterrorism adviser John Brennan told Fox
News. "But there was no single bit of information that was
instrumental."

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:48 PM
I found this...
not that i give 2 ****s, but i love throwing gas on fires...</p>


http://i.imgur.com/Ncmwo.jpg

READYYYYYY GO!!!!!</p>well obama didnt work with pakistani intel ovbiously or we would of let them in or at least informed them on the raid. and **** them. we send them billions a year. they knew he was there. and obama didnt know obl was in pakistan when he was campaigning. hes really bad with geography if you ever herd him speak on forgien affairs. theres no way he could of known for sure. the cia wasnt even sure where he was. the main goal in afghan was to always go after bin ladin, alqaida, and the taliban and make sure afghan can govern itself. no matter how anyone tries to spin it. if anything obamas hurt the overall war effort by putting rules of engagement in place. my cousin whos over there now is none to happy about it. they cant engage the enemy unless fired upon, these are marines not police officers. cant call in arty/airsupport unless fired upon. were fighting with one hand tied behind our back.


false, they DID work with Pakistani intel. This mission was just done without their knowledge, but even in that there is something fishy about that. Three helicoptors filled of navy seals are flying across country lines of two countries that have issues and the Pakistani's didn't notice? That doesn't really add up.

Not to mention that this was basically a city, this wasn't like huts in the sand. There was a drug store across the street. Pakistans government is obviously corrupted and has alot of leaks. Somebody HAD to of been involved. Theres no way logically that all of this could of happene.

You can't take anything Obama said about where he thought the where abouts of UBL was for anything. Obviously for common sense reasons, he wouldn't publically announce where he thought he was. Could we at least agree on that?

The rules of engagement probably stopped this from being an all out war against the Muslims.
pakistans not the most up to date army, we could of easily flown in undetected. what i wonder is why obl didnt try and run when he herd the choppers. theyre saying that have some mufflers on them but still theyre loud when that close. its not false obama didnt let the pakistanis in on this cause like you said theyre currupt. of course we worked with paki intel over the past 10 years but i dont think we let them in on much or vise versa, obviously. it really gets my goat that they knew. they had to know.


thats actually not that true.. in 08 they got updated air defense and got pretty high tech from what i just read real quick. And how do you account for no military or police showing up?

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:48 PM
Stupid ****ing Piladelphia Flyer...****ing me out of my survuval pool...I hsould've know not to count on that useless **** bag city for anything !!!</p>


"Jim, you KNOW New Yorkers don't consider Philadelphia a legitimate sports town..."</p>




lol great commercial
</p>


agreed. one of the greatest</p>


"Go ahead and celebrate in April, Jim....we'll celebrate in October"
"You will be DEAD BY OCTOBER!!!!"</p>

na he says go head and celebrate in april, we'll dance in octoberhahahahahaha

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 01:51 PM
when it comes to pakistans involvement, the proof will be in the pudding soon

we've started wars for less. Some faction, if not most of the governemnt has been playing both sides. Bi Ladens house has been in construction since 05. Doubt he was there tha tlong

But we'll see what happens if we start real **** with them an dif we give them more money. That will prove their involvement

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 01:54 PM
I found this...
not that i give 2 ****s, but i love throwing gas on fires...</p>


http://i.imgur.com/Ncmwo.jpg

READYYYYYY GO!!!!!</p>well obama didnt work with pakistani intel ovbiously or we would of let them in or at least informed them on the raid. and **** them. we send them billions a year. they knew he was there. and obama didnt know obl was in pakistan when he was campaigning. hes really bad with geography if you ever herd him speak on forgien affairs. theres no way he could of known for sure. the cia wasnt even sure where he was. the main goal in afghan was to always go after bin ladin, alqaida, and the taliban and make sure afghan can govern itself. no matter how anyone tries to spin it. if anything obamas hurt the overall war effort by putting rules of engagement in place. my cousin whos over there now is none to happy about it. they cant engage the enemy unless fired upon, these are marines not police officers. cant call in arty/airsupport unless fired upon. were fighting with one hand tied behind our back.


false, they DID work with Pakistani intel. This mission was just done without their knowledge, but even in that there is something fishy about that. Three helicoptors filled of navy seals are flying across country lines of two countries that have issues and the Pakistani's didn't notice? That doesn't really add up.

Not to mention that this was basically a city, this wasn't like huts in the sand. There was a drug store across the street. Pakistans government is obviously corrupted and has alot of leaks. Somebody HAD to of been involved. Theres no way logically that all of this could of happene.

You can't take anything Obama said about where he thought the where abouts of UBL was for anything. Obviously for common sense reasons, he wouldn't publically announce where he thought he was. Could we at least agree on that?

<u>The rules of engagement probably stopped this from being an all out war against the Muslims.</u>
i agree with what you said above that. he couldnt of known. just campaign bs being thrown back and forth from both sides. but no way in hell have these rules of engagement done anything but hurt us. obamas afraid of "civilian casualties". i put that in quotes because 9 time out of 10 theyre the combatants family. theyre cowards. as long as we fight a politically correct war were not winning ****. 50 years ago we wouldnt of stopped carpet bombing until they told us where he was. if we played it like that from the beginning we probably would of got him within the first few years. the russians would of won in afghan if we didnt send the afghanis stingers to shoot down their helicopters and jets and other equipment. the russians would literally whip out whole tribes. not saying we need to be doing that by any means. americans arent butchers, but we shouldnt be playing right into our enemies hand either. we need to go on the hunt and kill our enemies, not play police officer until were attacked.


Dezz you really just pull **** out of ur ***... you remind me of that politician thats trying to close Planned Parenthood and said that they account for 90% of the abortions in this country when its some type of small percent like 5 or something like that.

<u>9 out of 10 are combatants is just such a stupid thing to say. Well last time i checked, "FROM THE BEGGINNIG" wasn't Obama, that was ur boy Bush.</u>

The number of actual terrorists to the population is under 1% dezz, you say u dont want to be a butcher but everything else u are suggesting is different. 50 years ago we weren't fighting gangs, we were fighting countries
lol would it be better if i said most the time? lol they travel with their family, and use them as shields just like obl. are you trying to argue were not fighting a pc war? and most muslims are taught to hate americans from a young age. which furthers my argument i dont care whos president, just make sure the wars being fought the right way and listen to your generals. and at least he didnt enforce bs rules of engagement. ask any soldier how they feel about that.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 01:57 PM
Stupid ****ing Piladelphia Flyer...****ing me out of my survuval pool...I hsould've know not to count on that useless **** bag city for anything !!!</p>


"Jim, you KNOW New Yorkers don't consider Philadelphia a legitimate sports town..."</p>




lol great commercial
</p>


agreed. one of the greatest</p>


"Go ahead and celebrate in April, Jim....we'll celebrate in October"
"You will be DEAD BY OCTOBER!!!!"</p>

na he says go head and celebrate in april, we'll dance in octoberhahahahahaha
lol i like when he say "we have a little tradition in ny, its called winning"

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 02:05 PM
na he says go head and celebrate in april, we'll dance in octoberhahahahahaha
</P>


yup. something something something ;)</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 02:05 PM
when it comes to pakistans involvement, the proof will be in the pudding soon

we've started wars for less. Some faction, if not most of the governemnt has been playing both sides. Bi Ladens house has been in construction since 05. Doubt he was there tha tlong

But we'll see what happens if we start real **** with them an dif we give them more money. That will prove their involvement
i doubt well go to war. were in a tough spot with them. yea they ****ed us and took our money. but afgh/pak border is large and mountainous. we still need their "help"

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 02:10 PM
lol i like when he say "we have a little tradition in ny, its called winning"
</P>


lolololololol i love it!! it has to be one of my favorite commercials ever!</P>

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 02:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/DVK0L.jpg

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 02:15 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <font color="#980001">had a few things to say on Twitter</font> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg
What a ****ing nit-wit. Yes, I only heard one side of the story from 9/11 and I am making false assumptions about Bin-laden?

Btw--Are any of you verified on Twitter?
</p>


i have an account, dont use it often. whats verified mean?</p>I didn't know about verified until Ronnie the limo driver(Howard sterns limo guy) talked about it. Twitter somehow verifies who you are, I think. MMB--Do you know about that?


yea if ur famous i think twitter will contact ur people some how to make sure its you. Its like the "THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF " version of twitter
Ah, so in that case the only one here who has a chance of verification is the resident internet celebrity-Pizz. I am the self proclaimed Bench Press Express, not sure if that would work.

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 02:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/DVK0L.jpgThat's the material that Katherine Elizabeth Middleton's sister uses for dresses on her binder nights.

bandwgn86
05-03-2011, 02:17 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 02:19 PM
Steelers RB Rashard Mendenhall <FONT color=#980001>had a few things to say on Twitter</FONT> (http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/05/02/rashard-mendenhall-seems-to-defend-bin-laden-on-twitter/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog) regarding the death of Bin Laden.

uhg
What a ****ing nit-wit. Yes, I only heard one side of the story from 9/11 and I am making false assumptions about Bin-laden?

Btw--Are any of you verified on Twitter?
</P>


i have an account, dont use it often. whats verified mean?</P>


I didn't know about verified until Ronnie the limo driver(Howard sterns limo guy) talked about it. Twitter somehow verifies who you are, I think. MMB--Do you know about that?


yea if ur famous i think twitter will contact ur people some how to make sure its you. Its like the "THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF " version of twitter
Ah, so in that case the only one here who has a chance of verification is the resident internet celebrity-Pizz. I am the self proclaimed Bench Press Express, not sure if that would work.
</P>


my twitter handle is jpizzack(obviously) and if youd like to be "my people" and take care of my varification, that'd be wonderful. However, I hardly use it. Except when I use my Tumblr account, it posts to twitter and FB at the same time i think</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 02:20 PM
Stupid ****ing Piladelphia Flyer...****ing me out of my survuval pool...I hsould've know not to count on that useless **** bag city for anything !!!</p>


"Jim, you KNOW New Yorkers don't consider Philadelphia a legitimate sports town..."</p>Despicable City for professional sports.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 02:23 PM
its politics daven. That **** happens with EVERYONE.

But Obama promised he was different, he said "During my presidency it won't be politics as usual" so again, you are making excuses for him....

It's one thing for a president not to live up to his campaign promises, that sucks...but it's normal, but when your campaign promises are that you are going to live up to your campaign promises and then you don't it makes it twice as bad.






While its a good point, its also a moot one. What about all of the Republicans who have flipped their stances on millions of topics during Obamas campaign to joi nthe majority of the party's opinion, regardless of their own beliefs on what would be good for the country.

Yea that sucks, but those republicans are just doing politics as usual...it's to be expected...Obama doing it is worse because he promised he wouldn't...those repubs never made that promise.




Well i disagree. Hes run alot of things to try and pull this country through. What hes doing with GM and Ford is possibly putting them on the map. The spending number thats high is just so short sighted. The economy spending is at all time high, but thats because this was never an over night fix. <font color="#0000FF"><u>You have to spend money in the future to get out of this</u></font>. Theres no way we could of went the way we were going and it just would of been okay. He made moves and most neutral economists agree with the spending hes done. KEY WORD NUETRAL.

This is a fundamental fissure, you know I believe that is not correct, I believe we need to Cut spending...especially in entitlement programs to get the country on back track I don't think spending is the way to do it....and I mean it's not like we didn't try that anyhow, how many stimules plans have we gone through now with no improvement whatsoever? trillions of dollars down the drain, have you ever even looked into what the spending in these plans goes to BTW matt...

here's a good one...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/senator-questions-2-billion-loan-brazil

We are spending Billions of dollars on Offshore drilling investments in Brazil (and other places) but not allowing the Oil Companies to drill in the Gulf or in Alaska...all the government would have to do is Allow drilling in the gulf and Alaska and it would create thousands of jobs lower oil prices and decrease our foreign dependency....why don't we do it, why are we wasting money investing in other countries oil when we have our own and the process of drilling for our own oil would create jobs...it makes NO sense.





you act like because its not #1 on the list of things to do that it sOBama going back on his word. Would this of passed by now had the Senate and House not veto'd a bill to renovate the new jail they want to build in Illinoise? More than likely. White House has maintained that this is still on the "to do" list and now that BL is done, it may even help. The savings on cost (projected 1/10 of the 2billion we spend on it now) and the image we would uphold to the Muslim community would be great. This could of been the movement in dealing with terrorists that sparks this whole thing up agian... Quite frankly while I would like it to be handled, it shouldn't be atop the list of things that needs to be fixed most immediatly in this country


Yeah Gitmo might close now..but so what, that doesn't prove anything...he still failed...better late then never doesn't work when it comes to **** like this Matt...to put it in football Terms Obama is like a Coach...he has a RB with a Fumbling problem...he says he's gonna fix the RB....but then doesn't even start working with him until week 16 after they are already out of the playoff picture...what good is that???

He needs to set priorities and deal with issues...instead of Golfing and going on vacation...he's all over the place he doesn't seem to have a #1 thing on the list to do, he doesn't even seem to HAVE a list...he seems to just do whatever he thinks will get him good reviews each week this is the way I see him.

Obama - Abortion rights popular this week?
Poll - Answer Yes
Obama - Yup ok I'm for that, Press Conference on Abortion Rights.

But then there is NO action taken.

Obama - Cut Spending Popular?
Poll - Yes
Obama - Lets Cut Spending! Press Conference on Cutting Spending

No Action Taken.

Obama - People worried about Cuts to Entitlement programs?
Poll - Yes
Obama No Cutting to Entitlements don't worry, Press Conference on Entitlement programs

No Action Taken


on and on and on....he just figures out what the popular topic is that week....talks about all these grandiose plans he has (without ever mentioning anything specific) and then nothing happens...we as the public all forget about it because he had a press conference but the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 02:26 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!
give me some tips[:D]

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 02:27 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</P>


Umm.....Daven...</P>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</P>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 02:28 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!
give me some tips[:D]
Did you close the deal with that girl on the block who walks the dog?

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 02:28 PM
amazing......!!!!</P>


http://i.imgur.com/oShVq.jpg</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 02:36 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 02:38 PM
amazing......!!!!</p>


http://i.imgur.com/oShVq.jpg</p>Reditt lol.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 02:42 PM
amazing......!!!!</p>


http://i.imgur.com/oShVq.jpg</p>

that's a new twist to the old meme...I like it.

Generally it's...

B) Your Hot lets go out

G) I Have a Boyfriend

B) I Have a Cat

G) What?

B) I thought we were both listing crap that doesn't matter.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 02:43 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!
give me some tips[:D]
Did you close the deal with that girl on the block who walks the dog?
no not at all in fact i was outside talking to a neighbor and i saw her sprinting the other direction to her car. lol. nah im good though maggs is coming home tonight and shes done with school for good. yay. maybe now we can have a functioning relationship but im not holding my breath.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 02:44 PM
I Love these ones Pizz

http://i.imgur.com/i7S4n.jpg

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 02:44 PM
amazing......!!!!</p>


http://i.imgur.com/oShVq.jpg</p>Reditt lol.
lol hahaaa

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 02:46 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!
give me some tips[:D]
Did you close the deal with that girl on the block who walks the dog?
no not at all in fact i was outside talking to a neighbor and i saw her sprinting the other direction to her car. lol. nah im good though maggs is coming home tonight and shes done with school for good. yay. maybe now we can have a functioning relationship but im not holding my breath.
Perfect timing for the B-day. Good luck and enjoy!

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 02:49 PM
I Love these ones Pizz

http://i.imgur.com/i7S4n.jpg
it looks like lando and matt *****ing about the lackers and nets.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 02:50 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</P>


Umm.....Daven...</P>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</P>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</P>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</P>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</P>

bandwgn86
05-03-2011, 02:50 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!
give me some tips[:D]
eat more calories than you burn..

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 02:51 PM
I Love these ones Pizz

http://i.imgur.com/i7S4n.jpg
</P>


hahah i JUST saw that one. so good...</P>

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 03:02 PM
I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....

So that makes it ok to do nothing about it?



at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>Why? I mean, why do you think he's competent...what has he done since he stepped into office that makes you think he's competent?

I don't understand how people can think that, from my perspective he's the least competent president since Carter...(maybe even worse) he had absolutely no experience when he won the presidency....outside of being a community organizer (which come on we know that's not a real job) he's inexperienced and he's just treading water...he's just doing whatever everyone tells him to do...he's got no opinions of his own.

at least Bush had a plan and was decisive and did what he said he was going to do...you may not have agreed with what he was doing....but at least he did what he said he was going to do.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 03:05 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 03:10 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!
give me some tips[:D]
eat more calories than you burn..
lol

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 03:11 PM
I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....

So that makes it ok to do nothing about it?




at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</P>


Why? I mean, why do you think he's competent...what has he done since he stepped into office that makes you think he's competent?

I don't understand how people can think that, from my perspective he's the least competent president since Carter...(maybe even worse) he had absolutely no experience when he won the presidency....outside of being a community organizer (which come on we know that's not a real job) he's inexperienced and he's just treading water...he's just doing whatever everyone tells him to do...he's got no opinions of his own.

at least Bush had a plan and was decisive and did what he said he was going to do...you may not have agreed with what he was doing....but at least he did what he said he was going to do.
</P>


bro, i dont talk politics...and likely never will...

reason being...it makes no difference who the president is, nothing ever changes.
The only thing that remains a constant? taxes go up, cost of living goes up, and everything else changes like i change my boxers. it's never going to be different and it's been happening that way as long as i've been alive.
from my own perspective and standpoint....my insurance hasnt gone up in 3 years, i still get the same raises i always have, and i can't afford to live in NY.
So if you think there is any one person who can change all those things, there's an issue.
I dont understand why people cant get over the fact that POTUS is just a figure head....it doesnt even mean anything. legislation will get passed or not get passed the way it always has, and every single ****ing person in the country is going to ***** about every single ****ing thing. nobody is ever happy, specifically people who follow politics closely.

My advice to every single American is to shut the **** up, bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</P>

ny06
05-03-2011, 03:14 PM
I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....

So that makes it ok to do nothing about it?




at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</P>


Why? I mean, why do you think he's competent...what has he done since he stepped into office that makes you think he's competent?

I don't understand how people can think that, from my perspective he's the least competent president since Carter...(maybe even worse) he had absolutely no experience when he won the presidency....outside of being a community organizer (which come on we know that's not a real job) he's inexperienced and he's just treading water...he's just doing whatever everyone tells him to do...he's got no opinions of his own.

at least Bush had a plan and was decisive and did what he said he was going to do...you may not have agreed with what he was doing....but at least he did what he said he was going to do.
</P>


bro, i dont talk politics...and likely never will...

reason being...it makes no difference who the president is, nothing ever changes.
The only thing that remains a constant? taxes go up, cost of living goes up, and everything else changes like i change my boxers. it's never going to be different and it's been happening that way as long as i've been alive.
from my own perspective and standpoint....my insurance hasnt gone up in 3 years, i still get the same raises i always have, and i can't afford to live in NY.
So if you think there is any one person who can change all those things, there's an issue.
I dont understand why people cant get over the fact that POTUS is just a figure head....it doesnt even mean anything. legislation will get passed or not get passed the way it always has, and every single ****ing person in the country is going to ***** about every single ****ing thing. nobody is ever happy, specifically people who follow politics closely.

My advice to every single American is to shut the **** up, <FONT color=#0000ff>bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you</FONT>, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</P>


</P>


Isn't that the truth...</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 03:14 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.
Yes--and that monster of a healthcare bill that he wrote up? Unfortunately, I think the chances of it being ruled unconstitutional are slim to none.

He is a very polished, articulate speaker--they take acting classes, next his campaign catered to a sector of our country that likes to not work and receive benefits for doing nothing. When compared to what was currently in office=our new president.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 03:18 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!
give me some tips[:D]
eat more calories than you burn..
lolbut i burn a lot. hyyyyoooo

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 03:23 PM
when it comes to pakistans involvement, the proof will be in the pudding soon

we've started wars for less. Some faction, if not most of the governemnt has been playing both sides. Bi Ladens house has been in construction since 05. Doubt he was there tha tlong

But we'll see what happens if we start real **** with them an dif we give them more money. That will prove their involvement
i doubt well go to war. were in a tough spot with them. yea they ****ed us and took our money. but afgh/pak border is large and mountainous. we still need their "help"


yea but u would have to think that government is split. I think there is a shot we end up there. UBL living 30 miles from the capital in a house 10x the size of any other house in the neighborhood should of raised some bells...

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 03:27 PM
whyyyyyy the hell do slamming women go out/marry fat ugly balding slobs?? whyyy??
cuz were dead sexy.. jerkface!
give me some tips[:D]
eat more calories than you burn..
lolbut i burn a lot. hyyyyoooo
Along came polly, Aniston and stiller. Phillip Seymour Hoffman played Sandy Lyle. In the basketball scene where the ape hairy guy takes off his shirt and smears his sweaty chest all over Rueben. Sandy lyle takes a time out, ans say's " I'm BURNIN, i'M BURNIN" lol

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAwziG3D_6otO9GSyVcZQ0olYW6K3Pq 7du83GRttBtwXoUQlM5

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 03:27 PM
when it comes to pakistans involvement, the proof will be in the pudding soon

we've started wars for less. Some faction, if not most of the governemnt has been playing both sides. Bi Ladens house has been in construction since 05. Doubt he was there tha tlong

But we'll see what happens if we start real **** with them an dif we give them more money. That will prove their involvement
i doubt well go to war. were in a tough spot with them. yea they ****ed us and took our money. but afgh/pak border is large and mountainous. we still need their "help"


yea but u would have to think that government is split. I think there is a shot we end up there. UBL living 30 miles from the capital in a house 10x the size of any other house in the neighborhood should of raised some bells...
True

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 03:34 PM
<font color="#0000FF">My advice to every single American is to <font color="#FF0000">shut the **** up</font>, bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</font>

EXACTLY!!!!

without knowing it Pizz you pretty much said right there that you are Conservative you should generally agree with me, besides "STFU" (because we should speak up for ourselves) the rest of your rant is pretty much the cornerstone of Conservatism, help yourself...don't expect the government to help you.

what you said is pretty much what I want, I want to be able to bust my *** at work, make a good life for me and my family, and not be bothered...

The only difference between me and you is I'm not ignoring my responsibility to pay attention to who our leaders are....they do make a difference...no one president will fix anything that much is obvious but they make little dents and push a little bit one way or the other...

A conservative president would/should decrease the amount of money the Gov. spends and reduce the amount of Power the government has over your day to day life, Obama is the polar opposite of that, he wants the Government to have a hand in everything you do everyday...he doesn't seem to want you to be able to work hard and get ahead...he seems to want everyone regardless of their work ethic or ability to be in the same place...and he's pushing the country in that direction...I don't want to leave America...I want America to go back to the way it was and still should be...the only way to do that is try to convince as many people as possible to switch to my way of thinking and vote along those lines.....Talking on a Football Forum...If I can convince one of the hundreds of people reading this thread to do that it will have all been worth it.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 03:36 PM
when it comes to pakistans involvement, the proof will be in the pudding soon

we've started wars for less. Some faction, if not most of the governemnt has been playing both sides. Bi Ladens house has been in construction since 05. Doubt he was there tha tlong

But we'll see what happens if we start real **** with them an dif we give them more money. That will prove their involvement
i doubt well go to war. were in a tough spot with them. yea they ****ed us and took our money. but afgh/pak border is large and mountainous. we still need their "help"


yea but u would have to think that government is split. I think there is a shot we end up there. UBL living 30 miles from the capital in a house 10x the size of any other house in the neighborhood should of raised some bells...
i agree their gov is most def split and corrupt to boot but whats the mission going to be if it happens? liberate pakistan? **** that noise. we cant afford to keep trying building these **** holes into a some sort of functioning gov. if i was bam id say listen since were giving you all this money, let us cross the border and give us free reign in the mountainous regions of pakistan and let us pursue our enemies. you guys can patrol/gather intel your cities/towns, but still can we even trust them to do that? were in really tough spot

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 03:42 PM
<font color="#0000ff">My advice to every single American is to <font color="#ff0000">shut the **** up</font>, bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</font>

EXACTLY!!!!

without knowing it Pizz you pretty much said right there that you are Conservative you should generally agree with me, besides "STFU" (because we should speak up for ourselves) the rest of your rant is pretty much the cornerstone of Conservatism, help yourself...don't expect the government to help you.

what you said is pretty much what I want, I want to be able to bust my *** at work, make a good life for me and my family, and not be bothered...

The only difference between me and you is I'm not ignoring my responsibility to pay attention to who our leaders are....they do make a difference...no one president will fix anything that much is obvious but they make little dents and push a little bit one way or the other...from what you said in your rant it seems you want

A conservative president would/should decrease the amount of money the Gov. spends and reduce the amount of Power the government has over your day to day life, Obama is the polar opposite of that, he wants the Government to have a hand in everything you do everyday...he doesn't seem to want you to be able to work hard and get ahead...he seems to want everyone regardless of their work ethic or ability to be in the same place...and he's pushing the country in that direction...I don't want to leave America...I want America to go back to the way it was and still should be...the only way to do that is try to convince as many people as possible to switch to my way of thinking and vote along those lines.....Talking on a Football Forum...If I can convince one of the hundreds of people reading this thread to do that it will have all been worth it.
Pretty much in line with one of my favorite quotes that is hanging in my office:

Face it, nobody owes you a living
What you achieve or fail to achieve in your lifetime is directly related to what you do, or fail to do.
People don't choose their parent's or childhood, but you can choose your own direction.
Everyone has problems and obstacles to overcome, but that too is relative to each individual.
Nothing is carved in stone, you can change anything in your life if you want to badly enough.
Excuses are for losers. Those who take responsibility for their actions are the real winners in life.
Winners meet life's challenges head on, knowing there are no guarantees and give all they've got.
And never think its too early to begin. Time plays no favorites and will pass whether you act or not.
Take control of your life. Dare to dream and take risks......Compete. Author unknown.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 03:46 PM
<FONT color=#0000ff>My advice to every single American is to <FONT color=#ff0000>shut the **** up</FONT>, bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</FONT>

EXACTLY!!!!

without knowing it Pizz you pretty much said right there that you are Conservative you should generally agree with me, besides "STFU" (because we should speak up for ourselves) the rest of your rant is pretty much the cornerstone of Conservatism, help yourself...don't expect the government to help you.

what you said is pretty much what I want, I want to be able to bust my *** at work, make a good life for me and my family, and not be bothered...

The only difference between me and you is I'm not ignoring my responsibility to pay attention to who our leaders are....they do make a difference...no one president will fix anything that much is obvious but they make little dents and push a little bit one way or the other...from what you said in your rant it seems you want

A conservative president would/should decrease the amount of money the Gov. spends and reduce the amount of Power the government has over your day to day life, Obama is the polar opposite of that, he wants the Government to have a hand in everything you do everyday...he doesn't seem to want you to be able to work hard and get ahead...he seems to want everyone regardless of their work ethic or ability to be in the same place...and he's pushing the country in that direction...I don't want to leave America...I want America to go back to the way it was and still should be...the only way to do that is try to convince as many people as possible to switch to my way of thinking and vote along those lines.....Talking on a Football Forum...If I can convince one of the hundreds of people reading this thread to do that it will have all been worth it.
</P>


I'm not a conservative. I'm a Notgivea****ist. Someone who treats everyone guilty until proven innocent(and before you judge me forMY harsh judgement.... proving yourself innocent is kinda easy lol)
I hate hearing about politics more than anything else I can think of. Cannot stand it. I hate people who think they can make a difference by talking about it. You want to make a difference, go help the poor, or become a doctor or something. I hate people shoving their agendas in your face. Everyone has them. You guys included, which is fine, trust me, I don't care....but I don't want to hear about it.
I hate that my father can complain about the presidency, and legislation, and politicians and their agendas, and then he can go out and exploit whatever side of the housing market that would benefit him the most at that exact moment.
It all bull****, and that's why I take myself out of the equation. When I do vote, i think to myself "what choice is going to piss the most people off?"</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 03:50 PM
its politics daven. That **** happens with EVERYONE.

But Obama promised he was different, he said "During my presidency it won't be politics as usual" so again, you are making excuses for him....

It's one thing for a president not to live up to his campaign promises, that sucks...but it's normal, but when your campaign promises are that you are going to live up to your campaign promises and then you don't it makes it twice as bad.






While its a good point, its also a moot one. What about all of the Republicans who have flipped their stances on millions of topics during Obamas campaign to joi nthe majority of the party's opinion, regardless of their own beliefs on what would be good for the country.

Yea that sucks, but those republicans are just doing politics as usual...it's to be expected...Obama doing it is worse because he promised he wouldn't...those repubs never made that promise.




Well i disagree. Hes run alot of things to try and pull this country through. What hes doing with GM and Ford is possibly putting them on the map. The spending number thats high is just so short sighted. The economy spending is at all time high, but thats because this was never an over night fix. <font color="#0000ff"><u>You have to spend money in the future to get out of this</u></font>. Theres no way we could of went the way we were going and it just would of been okay. He made moves and most neutral economists agree with the spending hes done. KEY WORD NUETRAL.

This is a fundamental fissure, you know I believe that is not correct, I believe we need to Cut spending...especially in entitlement programs to get the country on back track I don't think spending is the way to do it....and I mean it's not like we didn't try that anyhow, how many stimules plans have we gone through now with no improvement whatsoever? trillions of dollars down the drain, have you ever even looked into what the spending in these plans goes to BTW matt...

here's a good one...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/senator-questions-2-billion-loan-brazil

We are spending Billions of dollars on Offshore drilling investments in Brazil (and other places) but not allowing the Oil Companies to drill in the Gulf or in Alaska...all the government would have to do is Allow drilling in the gulf and Alaska and it would create thousands of jobs lower oil prices and decrease our foreign dependency....why don't we do it, why are we wasting money investing in other countries oil when we have our own and the process of drilling for our own oil would create jobs...it makes NO sense.





you act like because its not #1 on the list of things to do that it sOBama going back on his word. Would this of passed by now had the Senate and House not veto'd a bill to renovate the new jail they want to build in Illinoise? More than likely. White House has maintained that this is still on the "to do" list and now that BL is done, it may even help. The savings on cost (projected 1/10 of the 2billion we spend on it now) and the image we would uphold to the Muslim community would be great. This could of been the movement in dealing with terrorists that sparks this whole thing up agian... Quite frankly while I would like it to be handled, it shouldn't be atop the list of things that needs to be fixed most immediatly in this country


Yeah Gitmo might close now..but so what, that doesn't prove anything...he still failed...better late then never doesn't work when it comes to **** like this Matt...to put it in football Terms Obama is like a Coach...he has a RB with a Fumbling problem...he says he's gonna fix the RB....but then doesn't even start working with him until week 16 after they are already out of the playoff picture...what good is that???

He needs to set priorities and deal with issues...instead of Golfing and going on vacation...he's all over the place he doesn't seem to have a #1 thing on the list to do, he doesn't even seem to HAVE a list...he seems to just do whatever he thinks will get him good reviews each week this is the way I see him.

Obama - Abortion rights popular this week?
Poll - Answer Yes
Obama - Yup ok I'm for that, Press Conference on Abortion Rights.

But then there is NO action taken.

Obama - Cut Spending Popular?
Poll - Yes
Obama - Lets Cut Spending! Press Conference on Cutting Spending

No Action Taken.

Obama - People worried about Cuts to Entitlement programs?
Poll - Yes
Obama No Cutting to Entitlements don't worry, Press Conference on Entitlement programs

No Action Taken


on and on and on....he just figures out what the popular topic is that week....talks about all these grandiose plans he has (without ever mentioning anything specific) and then nothing happens...we as the public all forget about it because he had a press conference but the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.



well unfortunately the republican party has game plans thats are effective. But the reality of the situation is that you almost put obama in a position to do those things. I think the republicans that pulled that **** should be killed off. They've done more harm to this country than anything else. You just gave the biggst cop out for anything i've ever heard in my life. You just said an elected official that held up things in this country for their own party belief, opposed to their personal beliefs., shouldn't be held to the same standard? THey dind't get sworn in? Thats the type of ****bagging that is the root of all the evil

I'm not familiar with off-shore drilling at all, but I would have to imagine that the BP disaster would have something to do with it no? Theres always that thread of it happening is it not? I don't really know anything about it but even the way u worded it, answers itself. Why would we save our resources and use somebody elses? Think more than two years from now. It seems your short sighted on that.

LoL ur first sentence is a joke. You had three posts killing him for it not being closed by ehte due date. Then you say so what if it closes now, he failed? Sorry, if it closes then it was a success. No way to spin that.

And thats horse **** because all initial moves have happened. you can't shut it down without working out things with like WHERE TO PUT HTE PRISONERS. Some countries would accept these guys, some won't. We can't move them anywhere cuz all the funding, for some dumb reason, was rejected to re-do the jail in Ill.

Your just so ridiculous. You name a million things and except it all to be done over night. This country is in a war and a recession (which was NOT due to Obama). You just expect everything to be done over night, overcoming everything, with the republican throwing every wrench they can. Your just ridiculous.


Lol so ur killing him for addressing the popular topics of the week as a president like thats all that hes doing? Your just crazy.

The economy is always a forefront topic. I almost wish Obama would of not been in office, so less could of been done with McCain and all the excuses in the world from u replublicans would happen.

http://curmilus.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/what-has-president-obama-accomplished-by-robert-p-watson-ph-d/

something for u to read

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 03:51 PM
Face it, nobody owes you a living
What you achieve or fail to achieve in your lifetime is directly related to what you do, or fail to do.
People don't choose their parent's or childhood, but you can choose your own direction.
Everyone has problems and obstacles to overcome, but that too is relative to each individual.
Nothing is carved in stone, you can change anything in your life if you want to badly enough.
Excuses are for losers. Those who take responsibility for their actions are the real winners in life.
Winners meet life's challenges head on, knowing there are no guarantees and give all they've got.
And never think its too early to begin. Time plays no favorites and will pass whether you act or not.
Take control of your life. Dare to dream and take risks......Compete. Author unknown.
</P>


worrdddddddd....
I'm a believer in that....although it's sometimes hard to swallow.
I never finished college. I didn't apply myself, and I wasn't too great at it to begin with, so that's something I gotta deal with. But, I can't afford to work, live on my own AND pay for school. And the compensation i COULD get, isn't enough to help unfortunately. So it's something I've already taken on my shoulders over the past 5-6 years....I found the best job I could, and at least I'm trying.
I'll never be rich, but I can sure as **** be awesome! lmao</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 03:52 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.


no thats just american arragonance. Its running **** while not having the world hate us

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 03:53 PM
I Love these ones Pizz

http://i.imgur.com/i7S4n.jpg
it looks like lando and matt *****ing about the lackers and nets.


i still own him with the Lopez &gt; Bynum thing

its all i got and i'll run to death with it

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 03:55 PM
I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....

So that makes it ok to do nothing about it?



at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>Why? I mean, why do you think he's competent...what has he done since he stepped into office that makes you think he's competent?

I don't understand how people can think that, from my perspective he's the least competent president since Carter...(maybe even worse) he had absolutely no experience when he won the presidency....outside of being a community organizer (which come on we know that's not a real job) he's inexperienced and he's just treading water...he's just doing whatever everyone tells him to do...he's got no opinions of his own.

at least Bush had a plan and was decisive and did what he said he was going to do...you may not have agreed with what he was doing....but at least he did what he said he was going to do.


Daven, i bet u thought we weren't doing anything to find Bin Laden either

Doing what everyone tells him too... that doesn't describe Bush? Bush had a plan? lolol

ur a silly goose

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 03:56 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.


no in that case u become president by manipulating jesus freak hicks, having ur daddy an ex-pres, and have a questionable voting process

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 03:56 PM
Face it, nobody owes you a living
What you achieve or fail to achieve in your lifetime is directly related to what you do, or fail to do.
People don't choose their parent's or childhood, but you can choose your own direction.
Everyone has problems and obstacles to overcome, but that too is relative to each individual.
Nothing is carved in stone, you can change anything in your life if you want to badly enough.
Excuses are for losers. Those who take responsibility for their actions are the real winners in life.
Winners meet life's challenges head on, knowing there are no guarantees and give all they've got.
And never think its too early to begin. Time plays no favorites and will pass whether you act or not.
Take control of your life. Dare to dream and take risks......Compete. Author unknown.
</p>


worrdddddddd....
I'm a believer in that....although it's sometimes hard to swallow.
I never finished college. I didn't apply myself, and I wasn't too great at it to begin with, so that's something I gotta deal with. But, I can't afford to work, live on my own AND pay for school. And the compensation i COULD get, isn't enough to help unfortunately. So it's something I've already taken on my shoulders over the past 5-6 years....I found the best job I could, and at least I'm trying.
I'll never be rich, but I can sure as **** be awesome! lmao</p>[Y] Sure it's hard to swallow. The truth always is, but it shows your man enough to face it and accept it. That's where you start building from as oppossed to those who cast blame for their shortcomings and never improve themselves.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 03:58 PM
I'm not a conservative. I'm a Notgivea****ist.

Just saying, from your earlier rant your ideals seem to fall in line with conservatism :P


Someone who treats everyone guilty until proven innocent(and before you judge me forMY harsh judgement.... proving yourself innocent is kinda easy lol)

I think that's how it works on the other side of the pond.



I hate hearing about politics more than anything else I can think of. Cannot stand it.</p>

I find it to be highly entertaining myself, I like to hear what other people think about the issues that we all deal with every single day.
</p>


</p>


I hate people who think they can make a difference by talking about it.</p>

I'm sorry you hate me, but you CAN make a difference by talking about it...
</p>


</p>


You want to make a difference, go help the poor, or become a doctor or something.</p>

How does becoming a Doctor fix the situation, how does volunteering at a soup kitchen one day fix the problem, it doesn't.....not there is anything wrong with doing those things, but they don't address the root of the problem.
</p>


I hate people shoving their agendas in your face. Everyone has them. You guys included, which is fine, trust me, I don't care....but I don't want to hear about it.</p>

You call them agendas I call them opinions.
</p>


I hate that my father can complain about the presidency, and legislation, and politicians and their agendas, and then he can go out and exploit whatever side of the housing market that would benefit him the most at that exact moment.</p>

There's nothing wrong with that in my opinion, he's exploiting the market to make money, to make a better life for himself and his family.
</p>


It all bull****, and that's why I take myself out of the equation. When I do vote, i think to myself "what choice is going to piss the most people off?"</p>

The simple act of voting without any research or knowledge about the candidates and what they stand for would piss me off...your choice wouldn't matter.
</p>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:03 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.
Yes--and that monster of a healthcare bill that he wrote up? Unfortunately, I think the chances of it being ruled unconstitutional are slim to none.

He is a very polished, articulate speaker--they take acting classes, next his campaign catered to a sector of our country that likes to not work and receive benefits for doing nothing. When compared to what was currently in office=our new president.


That Healthcare Bill is going to save 1 trillion dollars over the next 20 years. The CBO agrees

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 04:04 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.


no thats just american arragonance. Its running **** while not having the world hate us
no its really not arrogance. arrogance is going away on vacation everytime the **** hits the fan. what did you say this morning? were thee world power. who gives a **** if everyone hates us? i dont. theyre jealous. everyone hates the top dog. people are going to hate us no matter what.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 04:05 PM
The simple act of voting without any research or knowledge about the candidates and what they stand for would piss me off...your choice wouldn't matter.
</P>


wait, so you mean Bush II got in the whitehouse because of a reason other than his name?! GTFO!!!! lol
dude, that's the biggest part of this so called democracy we live in. you wanna vote, you gotta remember that it's no different than high school student government. lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:09 PM
<font color="#0000ff">My advice to every single American is to <font color="#ff0000">shut the **** up</font>, bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</font>

EXACTLY!!!!

without knowing it Pizz you pretty much said right there that you are Conservative you should generally agree with me, besides "STFU" (because we should speak up for ourselves) the rest of your rant is pretty much the cornerstone of Conservatism, help yourself...don't expect the government to help you.

what you said is pretty much what I want, I want to be able to bust my *** at work, make a good life for me and my family, and not be bothered...

The only difference between me and you is I'm not ignoring my responsibility to pay attention to who our leaders are....they do make a difference...no one president will fix anything that much is obvious but they make little dents and push a little bit one way or the other...

A conservative president would/should decrease the amount of money the Gov. spends and reduce the amount of Power the government has over your day to day life, Obama is the polar opposite of that, he wants the Government to have a hand in everything you do everyday...he doesn't seem to want you to be able to work hard and get ahead...he seems to want everyone regardless of their work ethic or ability to be in the same place...and he's pushing the country in that direction...I don't want to leave America...I want America to go back to the way it was and still should be...the only way to do that is try to convince as many people as possible to switch to my way of thinking and vote along those lines.....Talking on a Football Forum...If I can convince one of the hundreds of people reading this thread to do that it will have all been worth it.


lol when did iu guys ever shut up? You need to speak up? Only time you hushed was towards the end of the Bush admin and u guys COULDNT say anything

And i agree with u on that Daven. While PIzz makes good points, i don't get how EVERYBODY doesn't worry no matter which sid eof the fence your on.

But after everything you've said:

"..no one president will fix anything that much is obvious but they make
little dents and push a little bit one way or the other..."


how the **** do u say that. You've done NOTHING but kill Obama because there hasn't been dramatic and drastic changes. Your being a typical republican right now. Figure out what you believe and apply it to everything. Because right now the only thing thats a common thread in all of your points is that ANYTHING OBAMA OR THE DEMOs DO, YOUR AGAINST

Oh god, here it goes. THE REPUBLICAN SCARE. Yes yes, we know, Obama wnats to come into your house, rape your wife, and eat your leftover ham from Easter. All I know is that i've been getting more in my checks every weeks. Please explain how in your every day life hes tried to put a hand in your life? I want specific examples

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:11 PM
<font color="#0000ff">My advice to every single American is to <font color="#ff0000">shut the **** up</font>, bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</font>

EXACTLY!!!!

without knowing it Pizz you pretty much said right there that you are Conservative you should generally agree with me, besides "STFU" (because we should speak up for ourselves) the rest of your rant is pretty much the cornerstone of Conservatism, help yourself...don't expect the government to help you.

what you said is pretty much what I want, I want to be able to bust my *** at work, make a good life for me and my family, and not be bothered...

The only difference between me and you is I'm not ignoring my responsibility to pay attention to who our leaders are....they do make a difference...no one president will fix anything that much is obvious but they make little dents and push a little bit one way or the other...from what you said in your rant it seems you want

A conservative president would/should decrease the amount of money the Gov. spends and reduce the amount of Power the government has over your day to day life, Obama is the polar opposite of that, he wants the Government to have a hand in everything you do everyday...he doesn't seem to want you to be able to work hard and get ahead...he seems to want everyone regardless of their work ethic or ability to be in the same place...and he's pushing the country in that direction...I don't want to leave America...I want America to go back to the way it was and still should be...the only way to do that is try to convince as many people as possible to switch to my way of thinking and vote along those lines.....Talking on a Football Forum...If I can convince one of the hundreds of people reading this thread to do that it will have all been worth it.
</p>


I'm not a conservative. I'm a Notgivea****ist. Someone who treats everyone guilty until proven innocent(and before you judge me forMY harsh judgement.... proving yourself innocent is kinda easy lol)
I hate hearing about politics more than anything else I can think of. Cannot stand it. I hate people who think they can make a difference by talking about it. You want to make a difference, go help the poor, or become a doctor or something. I hate people shoving their agendas in your face. Everyone has them. You guys included, which is fine, trust me, I don't care....but I don't want to hear about it.
<font size="6">I hate that my father can complain about the presidency, and legislation, and politicians and their agendas, and then he can go out and exploit whatever side of the housing market that would benefit him the most at that exact moment.</font>
It all bull****, and that's why I take myself out of the equation. When I do vote, i think to myself "what choice is going to piss the most people off?"</p>

that was awesome pizz...

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 04:11 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.


no in that case u become president by manipulating jesus freak hicks, having ur daddy an ex-pres, and have a questionable voting process
ohh give me a break. your bleeding heart finally showed. i can say the same thing about african americans voting for obama. 95% of which voted for him, gee i wonder why. and white people are racist, when we dont agree with him lol yeaaaaaaa. you want to talk about obamas voting record?how many times he vote present?you dont become president by being a fool, that goes for any president.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:13 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.


no thats just american arragonance. Its running **** while not having the world hate us
no its really not arrogance. arrogance is going away on vacation everytime the **** hits the fan. what did you say this morning? were thee world power. who gives a **** if everyone hates us? i dont. theyre jealous. everyone hates the top dog. people are going to hate us no matter what.


of course you don't. We dont need to rely on other countries for anything... **** em

we can do it all ourselves

[:|]

the world power isn't as powerful as u think it is

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 04:14 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.
Yes--and that monster of a healthcare bill that he wrote up? Unfortunately, I think the chances of it being ruled unconstitutional are slim to none.

He is a very polished, articulate speaker--they take acting classes, next his campaign catered to a sector of our country that likes to not work and receive benefits for doing nothing. When compared to what was currently in office=our new president.


That Healthcare Bill is going to save 1 trillion dollars over the next 20 years. The CBO agrees
I am going to respond from a personal financial standpoint, because I think that's how most react to politics. At the time I read it, which was a while ago, I recall thinking, Ok this is going to cost ME more. Similar to another one of his tax ideas. Those individuals who have worked very hard their entire life and managed to be successful with their careers and finances are going to pay more in taxes and get less deductions. In effect they are being punished for all their hard work, in a sense for helping build this country with free enterprise, the very thing that we value so much as a freedom.

Of course in order for something to save money, the money needs to come from somewhere. Are we all as American's being asked to be responsible for the national debt and do our part to correct it? That's what it appears to me.

But, what about those on welfare, in subsidized housing, food stamps, etc. You know the one's at the doctors office where I take my kids that have nicer cell phones, who's kids have newer sneakers and who's parents drive nicer cars than me?

If American's as a whole must take responsibility for this debt, it should include the lower class as well.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 04:14 PM
well unfortunately the republican party has game plans thats are effective. <font color="#0000FF">But the reality of the situation is that you almost put obama in a position to do those things</font>. I think the republicans that pulled that **** should be killed off. They've done more harm to this country than anything else.

That's not the reality of the situation, it's a bull**** excuse that
you've been trained to say, and what "****" did the republicans pull?
what exactly are you talking about....why should they be killed
off?...what harm did the republicans alone cause this country?



You just gave the biggst cop out for anything i've ever heard in my life. You just said an elected official that held up things in this country for their own party belief, opposed to their personal beliefs., shouldn't be held to the same standard? THey dind't get sworn in? Thats the type of ****bagging that is the root of all the evil

I don't really know what you are referring to or trying to say here.



I'm not familiar with off-shore drilling at all, but I would have to imagine that the BP disaster would have something to do with it no? Theres always that thread of it happening is it not? I don't really know anything about it but even the way u worded it, answers itself. Why would we save our resources and use somebody elses? Think more than two years from now. It seems your short sighted on that.

?? we have more then enough oil in Alaska and the Gulf to last 100+ Years easily that's a low estimate...2 years? I'm not short sighted on this, on top of that you are looking small picture...it's not just about acquiring the oil, it's the fact that we are spending Billions on Oil investments in other countries....if you are against oil that's FINE...but why be against only American Oil and for Oil from other countries? it doesn't make sense...either be against it or don't but don't give billions to other countries for it but at the same time not allow the drilling (that would help our economy in many ways) here at home.



LoL ur first sentence is a joke. You had three posts killing him for it not being closed by ehte due date. Then you say so what if it closes now, he failed? Sorry, if it closes then it was a success. No way to spin that.

And thats horse **** because all initial moves have happened. you can't shut it down without working out things with like WHERE TO PUT HTE PRISONERS. Some countries would accept these guys, some won't. We can't move them anywhere cuz all the funding, for some dumb reason, was rejected to re-do the jail in Ill.

well I simply don't have your type of patience Matt, he's had 3+ years to accomplish this and as far as I can see there has been absolutely no progress at all, its like this with everything...he says he's going to do something but never actually takes steps to do it.....what has he done matt? he hasn't accomplished a damn thing (besides getting Osama) in the last 3 years! he starts things but they are NEVER finished.





Your just so ridiculous. You name a million things and except it all to be done over night. This country is in a war and a recession (which was NOT due to Obama). You just expect everything to be done over night, overcoming everything, with the republican throwing every wrench they can. Your just ridiculous.


ITS BEEN 3 YEARS!!!! your ****ing "over night" crap isn't flying anymore! I named a million things cause HE named a million things that he would do...but he's not finished ANY of them...it's been 3 YEARS!






Lol so ur killing him for addressing the popular topics of the week as a president like thats all that hes doing? Your just crazy.

I'm saying he's like a TV show, he's just talking about whatever gives him the best ratings...he never actually follows through with anything though...he never takes any sort of Action....that's what I'm killing him for.






The economy is always a forefront topic. I almost wish Obama would of not been in office, so less could of been done with McCain and all the excuses in the world from u replublicans would happen.

First off I don't even consider myself republican anymore...they are almost as bad as the dems...I'm conservative, and secondly I would not make Excuses for a Republican candidate if they were doing a bad job, a bad job is a bad job period....I don't make excuses for Bush.


http://curmilus.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/what-has-president-obama-accomplished-by-robert-p-watson-ph-d/

something for u to read


Will do.

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 04:15 PM
The simple act of voting without any research or knowledge about the candidates and what they stand for would piss me off...your choice wouldn't matter.
</p>


wait, so you mean Bush II got in the whitehouse because of a reason other than his name?! GTFO!!!! lol
dude, that's the biggest part of this so called democracy we live in. you wanna vote, you gotta remember that it's no different than high school student government. lol</p>I'm gonna be honest here. When I hear Bush, I only think of one thing, and it ain't politics. [;)]

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 04:17 PM
That Healthcare Bill is going to save 1 trillion dollars over the next 20 years. The CBO agrees


Not true, they agreed to that while looking at an incomplete version of the bill, after the Doctor fix was added among other revisions it will not be saving us money and in fact will be adding to the deficit.

It was another of this administrations dirty tricks, they removed the expensive parts of the bill so they could rush it through calling it "deficit neutral" then added the expensive parts after it passed so that the republicans couldn't do a damn thing about it.

It's also just peachy how all the bad parts of the bill don't take into effect until 2014....(After Obama's attempt at re-election)

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 04:19 PM
that was awesome pizz...

</P>


was a bit harsh....it's not that I hate my father or anything....
but he just fits in with everyone who wants to complain about every single thing.
nobody is ever happy. and I get it, I do...I'd say about 75% of the time, I'm a miserable a-hole....but at least I know it lol.
It's just that I can't get over the fact that people relate every thing back to one person as if just the president ruins the country lol</P>

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 04:22 PM
that was awesome pizz...

</p>


was a bit harsh....it's not that I hate my father or anything....
but he just fits in with everyone who wants to complain about every single thing.
nobody is ever happy. and I get it, I do...I'd say about <font color="#ff0000" size="6">75% </font>of the time, I'm a miserable a-hole....but at least I know it lol.
It's just that I can't get over the fact that people relate every thing back to one person as if just the president ruins the country lol</p>How co-incidental, that's the amount of income that our President want's to leave me with if I'm lucky.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 04:28 PM
\ Please explain how in your every day life hes tried to put a hand in your life? I want specific examples

He wants to FORCE Health Care on every individual in America...what if I don't want it Matt? welp too bad I have to have it...

That's an effect on my everyday life.

I don't know if you noticed, but Schools have been removing "junk food" from their cafeterias and vending machines...I know you, you'll say that's a good thing...but you don't think on the same level about these issues as I do....I'm not neccisarily saying it isn't a good thing to remove the junk food...I'm gonna say why does he think he has the RIGHT to do that though, there was a report of some school no longer allowing kids to BRING lunches from home over health concerns...really? WTF how is this being allowed..

Those school children...their lives are being effected.

The Oil situation, hundreds or thousands of lower to middle class people who work on the oil rigs...they are out of the job now...because Obama doesn't want drilling in the Gulf...

you don't think their lives are being effected by that?

lttaylor56
05-03-2011, 04:28 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.


no in that case u become president by manipulating jesus freak hicks, having ur daddy an ex-pres, and have a questionable voting process
ohh give me a break. your bleeding heart finally showed. i can say the same thing about african americans voting for obama. 95% of which voted for him, gee i wonder why. and white people are racist, when we dont agree with him lol yeaaaaaaa. you want to talk about obamas voting record?how many times he vote present?you dont become president by being a fool, that goes for any president.
Dezzzr---Have a good B-day tonite with Magg's! From what you say, I think you'll do your fair share of this tnite

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6C8ah5nIKRTu2SyvJDiKr4RvfS-y6ci2EzdW7ycVOm-dqS1c-

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 04:30 PM
that was awesome pizz...

</P>


was a bit harsh....it's not that I hate my father or anything....
but he just fits in with everyone who wants to complain about every single thing.
nobody is ever happy. and I get it, I do...I'd say about <FONT color=#ff0000 size=6>75% </FONT>of the time, I'm a miserable a-hole....but at least I know it lol.
It's just that I can't get over the fact that people relate every thing back to one person as if just the president ruins the country lol</P>


How co-incidental, that's the amount of income that our President want's to leave me with if I'm lucky.
</P>


lol. or less because I have to put into my 401k since chances are, I won't be receiving my fair share of social security. which presidency was it again that ****ed up that surplus? lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:34 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.


no in that case u become president by manipulating jesus freak hicks, having ur daddy an ex-pres, and have a questionable voting process
ohh give me a break. your bleeding heart finally showed. i can say the same thing about african americans voting for obama. 95% of which voted for him, gee i wonder why. and white people are racist, when we dont agree with him lol yeaaaaaaa. you want to talk about obamas voting record?how many times he vote present?you dont become president by being a fool, that goes for any president.

so if that makes me a bleeding heart that makes u a racist i guess

i say we're neither cuz its true. But lets be honest, there was also almost an equal amount that did vote against Obama stricly because he was black and they were misinformed about many things about him. Im sure your going to make some type of argument about how there wasn't and it will be brutal. But i'd say there was an equal enough ignorance when it came to Obama. I doubt there was as many people that hated religion that didn't vote for bush BECAUSE of that.

But lets be honest about the Bush vote, Obama was kind of a landslide, while bush was the tightest race ever.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:38 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.
Yes--and that monster of a healthcare bill that he wrote up? Unfortunately, I think the chances of it being ruled unconstitutional are slim to none.

He is a very polished, articulate speaker--they take acting classes, next his campaign catered to a sector of our country that likes to not work and receive benefits for doing nothing. When compared to what was currently in office=our new president.


That Healthcare Bill is going to save 1 trillion dollars over the next 20 years. The CBO agrees
I am going to respond from a personal financial standpoint, because I think that's how most react to politics. At the time I read it, which was a while ago, I recall thinking, Ok this is going to cost ME more. Similar to another one of his tax ideas. Those individuals who have worked very hard their entire life and managed to be successful with their careers and finances are going to pay more in taxes and get less deductions. In effect they are being punished for all their hard work, in a sense for helping build this country with free enterprise, the very thing that we value so much as a freedom.

Of course in order for something to save money, the money needs to come from somewhere. Are we all as American's being asked to be responsible for the national debt and do our part to correct it? That's what it appears to me.

But, what about those on welfare, in subsidized housing, food stamps, etc. You know the one's at the doctors office where I take my kids that have nicer cell phones, who's kids have newer sneakers and who's parents drive nicer cars than me?

If American's as a whole must take responsibility for this debt, it should include the lower class as well.


yes its going to cost us money, but it will also provide a service for us and for every american. Think of a guy ilke Lando who works but can't afford it becuase he works for a small company and his wife's job doens't offer benefits. First off, all polls are horse****. I dont care if they are for or against my points. They take a sample size which wouldn't even hit 1% of americans and then have vague anaswers which could mean different things to different people. The ARE YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR HEALTHCARE polls are TOTALLY abused.

They don't ask the people who DONT have healthcare or can't afford it to start with

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 04:41 PM
I read the link you posted Matt....

and yeah...that's EXACTLY what i'm talking about...did you actually read it?

look at this junk

<span style="font-size:13.5pt;">88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform </span>

Those aren't accomplishments, those aren't things Obama did....those aren't anything... Announced his Intention WTF

I'm announcing my intention to end world hunger right now Matt


OMG I saved the world.

this is what he does... he makes announcements he holds press conferences to talk about popular topics...but he never follows through... he never takes ACTION.

and now he's gonna get re-elected by says ( I'm the guy who caught Osama!) just like he got elected in the first place because he's gonna bring "Hope" he doesn't do ANYTHING he just spouts bullcrap and everyone buys into it I can not believe the American Public is so gullible.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 04:42 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.


no in that case u become president by manipulating jesus freak hicks, having ur daddy an ex-pres, and have a questionable voting process
ohh give me a break. your bleeding heart finally showed. i can say the same thing about african americans voting for obama. 95% of which voted for him, gee i wonder why. and white people are racist, when we dont agree with him lol yeaaaaaaa. you want to talk about obamas voting record?how many times he vote present?you dont become president by being a fool, that goes for any president.
Dezzzr---Have a good B-day tonite with Magg's! From what you say, I think you'll do your fair share of this tnite

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6C8ah5nIKRTu2SyvJDiKr4RvfS-y6ci2EzdW7ycVOm-dqS1c-


already on top of that. is it just me or does work/school go by very slow when youre blazed?

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:44 PM
well unfortunately the republican party has game plans thats are effective. <font color="#0000ff">But the reality of the situation is that you almost put obama in a position to do those things</font>. I think the republicans that pulled that **** should be killed off. They've done more harm to this country than anything else.

That's not the reality of the situation, it's a bull**** excuse that
you've been trained to say, and what "****" did the republicans pull?
what exactly are you talking about....why should they be killed
off?...what harm did the republicans alone cause this country?



You just gave the biggst cop out for anything i've ever heard in my life. You just said an elected official that held up things in this country for their own party belief, opposed to their personal beliefs., shouldn't be held to the same standard? THey dind't get sworn in? Thats the type of ****bagging that is the root of all the evil

I don't really know what you are referring to or trying to say here.



I'm not familiar with off-shore drilling at all, but I would have to imagine that the BP disaster would have something to do with it no? Theres always that thread of it happening is it not? I don't really know anything about it but even the way u worded it, answers itself. Why would we save our resources and use somebody elses? Think more than two years from now. It seems your short sighted on that.

?? we have more then enough oil in Alaska and the Gulf to last 100+ Years easily that's a low estimate...2 years? I'm not short sighted on this, on top of that you are looking small picture...it's not just about acquiring the oil, it's the fact that we are spending Billions on Oil investments in other countries....if you are against oil that's FINE...but why be against only American Oil and for Oil from other countries? it doesn't make sense...either be against it or don't but don't give billions to other countries for it but at the same time not allow the drilling (that would help our economy in many ways) here at home.



LoL ur first sentence is a joke. You had three posts killing him for it not being closed by ehte due date. Then you say so what if it closes now, he failed? Sorry, if it closes then it was a success. No way to spin that.

And thats horse **** because all initial moves have happened. you can't shut it down without working out things with like WHERE TO PUT HTE PRISONERS. Some countries would accept these guys, some won't. We can't move them anywhere cuz all the funding, for some dumb reason, was rejected to re-do the jail in Ill.

well I simply don't have your type of patience Matt, he's had 3+ years to accomplish this and as far as I can see there has been absolutely no progress at all, its like this with everything...he says he's going to do something but never actually takes steps to do it.....what has he done matt? he hasn't accomplished a damn thing (besides getting Osama) in the last 3 years! he starts things but they are NEVER finished.





Your just so ridiculous. You name a million things and except it all to be done over night. This country is in a war and a recession (which was NOT due to Obama). You just expect everything to be done over night, overcoming everything, with the republican throwing every wrench they can. Your just ridiculous.


ITS BEEN 3 YEARS!!!! your ****ing "over night" crap isn't flying anymore! I named a million things cause HE named a million things that he would do...but he's not finished ANY of them...it's been 3 YEARS!






Lol so ur killing him for addressing the popular topics of the week as a president like thats all that hes doing? Your just crazy.

I'm saying he's like a TV show, he's just talking about whatever gives him the best ratings...he never actually follows through with anything though...he never takes any sort of Action....that's what I'm killing him for.






The economy is always a forefront topic. I almost wish Obama would of not been in office, so less could of been done with McCain and all the excuses in the world from u replublicans would happen.

First off I don't even consider myself republican anymore...they are almost as bad as the dems...I'm conservative, and secondly I would not make Excuses for a Republican candidate if they were doing a bad job, a bad job is a bad job period....I don't make excuses for Bush.


http://curmilus.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/what-has-president-obama-accomplished-by-robert-p-watson-ph-d/

something for u to read


Will do.


its not daven. Fight fire with fire, how is that a line of bull****? The state of the country and the conscious attempts to block anything the president does from the republicans isn't a line, its a sad reality.

well go back and read. You basically gave all the republicans a break for their sabotaging our government for their own party benefits. You said it was okay for them to do it, they weren't sworn in like Obama was. Which coulnd' of been further from the truth. Go re-read what u said there.

lol and there it goes again. your flip flopping. you don't have my patience of three years of making dramatic changes? But 5 minutes ago you say we make dents here and there with every president in ur response to pizz. He has totally done that, the sad part which u seem incapable to accept is that there is no short term solution for the situation we're in. And i love the fact that you've had ur CLOSE TO GUANTANAMO BAY DEADLINE. IF ITS NOT DONE BE THEN, ITS A FAILURE!!

If it gets done even in his next term (YES NEXT TERM) it will be success.

Every president HAS to deal with the hot topic out hand or hes considered out of touch. Your really trying too hard to try and make nothing into something.

I hate to break it to you, you have no characteristics of a democrat.. Starting with ur a Nascar fan. And you absolute have babied bush in many debates

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:46 PM
That Healthcare Bill is going to save 1 trillion dollars over the next 20 years. The CBO agrees


Not true, they agreed to that while looking at an incomplete version of the bill, after the Doctor fix was added among other revisions it will not be saving us money and in fact will be adding to the deficit.

It was another of this administrations dirty tricks, they removed the expensive parts of the bill so they could rush it through calling it "deficit neutral" then added the expensive parts after it passed so that the republicans couldn't do a damn thing about it.

It's also just peachy how all the bad parts of the bill don't take into effect until 2014....(After Obama's attempt at re-election)


no thats another Republican ploy and scare tactic...

CBO doens't back your argument at all

A) he was always getting re-elected
B) Now that Bin Laden was caught, u bet ur *** he is

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:47 PM
that was awesome pizz...

</p>


was a bit harsh....it's not that I hate my father or anything....
but he just fits in with everyone who wants to complain about every single thing.
nobody is ever happy. and I get it, I do...I'd say about 75% of the time, I'm a miserable a-hole....but at least I know it lol.
It's just that I can't get over the fact that people relate every thing back to one person as if just the president ruins the country lol</p>

no but its a valid point you mad

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 04:48 PM
yes its going to cost us money, but it will also provide a service for us and for every american. Think of a guy ilke Lando who works but can't afford it becuase he works for a small company and his wife's job doens't offer benefits. First off, all polls are horse****. I dont care if they are for or against my points. They take a sample size which wouldn't even hit 1% of americans and then have vague anaswers which could mean different things to different people. The ARE YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR HEALTHCARE polls are TOTALLY abused.

They don't ask the people who DONT have healthcare or can't afford it to start with


What about all the Insurance companies that will go out of business...think about the guy working the phones at an insurance company and paying the bills and putting food on the table for his family, he's gonna lose his job now...

that's why the sad stories don't mean anything, I love Lando man and I don't want him to have to deal with the situation he has to deal with...but how does trading his problem for a problem for someone else make sense?

Not to mention the quality of care overall for everyone, for you for me and everyone (except obviously the super rich who will leave this country to go to better doctors in say Sweden) will go DOWN as the best doctors flee this country, or don't have the time to give proper diagnoses because of the increased quantity of care.

what about the single guy who just got out of college and can't afford health care...now he's gonna be FORCED to pay for it...or Pay a fine for not paying for it......

their are currently free clinics Lando is not completely out of luck...the quality is poor...I agree and it sucks for him...I agree...but if fixing the problem for Lando causes problems for thousands of other people I can't with good conscious say it's the right thing to do.

JPizzack
05-03-2011, 04:49 PM
I'm announcing my intention to end world hunger right now Matt


OMG I saved the world.

</P>


OMG! youre going to get sooooo much assssss!!!! im jealous
I wish i ended world hunger first =\</P>

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 04:51 PM
the Administration never DOES anything about...all they do is talk.

</p>


Umm.....Daven...</p>


this is the textbook definition of politics.

it's fine to not like specific politicians, presidents, etc....</p>


but you could use what you think are specific examples as to WHY....and they are still generic. what do you think, the government is here to serve you? lololololololololol</p>


i have to agree with daven, **** the other day the press secretary said" we lead from behind" uhhhhh what? isnt that called following lol. obama couldnt lead a one car funeral. this country has never been so divided.
</p>


I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....
at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>come on. you dont become president by being stupid, or a step above mentally challenged. he wasnt great but he wasnt good. the question we have to ask ourselves in 2 years is, is this country any better now than it was 4 years ago and right now im saying no. in fact things are getting worse. its not only gas prices that are rising, food prices are going up as well. every things going up.


no in that case u become president by manipulating jesus freak hicks, having ur daddy an ex-pres, and have a questionable voting process
ohh give me a break. your bleeding heart finally showed. i can say the same thing about african americans voting for obama. 95% of which voted for him, gee i wonder why. and white people are racist, when we dont agree with him lol yeaaaaaaa. you want to talk about obamas voting record?how many times he vote present?you dont become president by being a fool, that goes for any president.

so if that makes me a bleeding heart that makes u a racist i guess

i say we're neither cuz its true. But lets be honest, there was also almost an equal amount that did vote against Obama stricly because he was black and they were misinformed about many things about him. Im sure your going to make some type of argument about how there wasn't and it will be brutal. But i'd say there was an equal enough ignorance when it came to Obama. I doubt there was as many people that hated religion that didn't vote for bush BECAUSE of that.

But lets be honest about the Bush vote, Obama was kind of a landslide, while bush was the tightest race ever.

we were having a good debate and then you go all uber lib on us. hahaa

personally i dont think it doesnt matter how much any of them won by cause look at the mid terms and look how much dems lost by, right after obama had an historic landslide victory. and before obl his poll numbers closing in on bushs. now 2 days later theyre going up again. its a funny thing. were deff a what have you done for me lately nation.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:53 PM
\ Please explain how in your every day life hes tried to put a hand in your life? I want specific examples

He wants to FORCE Health Care on every individual in America...what if I don't want it Matt? welp too bad I have to have it...

That's an effect on my everyday life.

I don't know if you noticed, but Schools have been removing "junk food" from their cafeterias and vending machines...I know you, you'll say that's a good thing...but you don't think on the same level about these issues as I do....I'm not neccisarily saying it isn't a good thing to remove the junk food...I'm gonna say why does he think he has the RIGHT to do that though, there was a report of some school no longer allowing kids to BRING lunches from home over health concerns...really? WTF how is this being allowed..

Those school children...their lives are being effected.

The Oil situation, hundreds or thousands of lower to middle class people who work on the oil rigs...they are out of the job now...because Obama doesn't want drilling in the Gulf...

you don't think their lives are being effected by that?


OMG where to even start with that

National Healthcare was something that was his platform and you'll be able to counteract that by cancelling your private healthcare if u so choose. Its sick how you can use taking care of the American people as a negative for you.

Schools remove junk food? So whats, its responsible. Its a free ****in country. You want your kid to have a snicker give him one. Whats the ****in difference. And not for nothing thats even an over blown comment. People in general are eating healthy. As somebody who OWNS a vending machine at my 9-5 i have people ASKING ME to put in healthier things. I got ****ing Muscle Milk, dried cranberries, and all of that **** in there. Maybe your just behind on the times a little bit. If i HAD to choose a side on it, i would say its a good thing. But in reality I would say who the **** cares and again your just TRYING to make an issue of something that is really not.

You don't think after hte BP spill LA people weren't effected? preserving our land isn't a knock. Why don't you take up a bigger ****in issue, like all these companies out sourcing jobs. I never hear u mention all the **** Obamas done to those business by not giving them tax breaks and **** like that.

MattMeyerBud
05-03-2011, 04:56 PM
I read the link you posted Matt....

and yeah...that's EXACTLY what i'm talking about...did you actually read it?

look at this junk

<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform </span>

Those aren't accomplishments, those aren't things Obama did....those aren't anything... Announced his Intention WTF

I'm announcing my intention to end world hunger right now Matt


OMG I saved the world.

this is what he does... he makes announcements he holds press conferences to talk about popular topics...but he never follows through... he never takes ACTION.

and now he's gonna get re-elected by says ( I'm the guy who caught Osama!) just like he got elected in the first place because he's gonna bring "Hope" he doesn't do ANYTHING he just spouts bullcrap and everyone buys into it I can not believe the American Public is so gullible.


and of course u ignore the other 87 points made when this was written a year ago and u grab the last two most vague things u can find to try and justify. Can you explain to me the process of what the president would have to do to shut down guantanamo and immigration reform

by the way those general points that he added at the bottom were also supported with specifics before that. So DID YOU really read it

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 05:00 PM
\ Please explain how in your every day life hes tried to put a hand in your life? I want specific examples

He wants to FORCE Health Care on every individual in America...what if I don't want it Matt? welp too bad I have to have it...

That's an effect on my everyday life.

I don't know if you noticed, but Schools have been removing "junk food" from their cafeterias and vending machines...I know you, you'll say that's a good thing...but you don't think on the same level about these issues as I do....I'm not neccisarily saying it isn't a good thing to remove the junk food...I'm gonna say why does he think he has the RIGHT to do that though, there was a report of some school no longer allowing kids to BRING lunches from home over health concerns...really? WTF how is this being allowed..

Those school children...their lives are being effected.

The Oil situation, hundreds or thousands of lower to middle class people who work on the oil rigs...they are out of the job now...because Obama doesn't want drilling in the Gulf...

you don't think their lives are being effected by that?


OMG where to even start with that

National Healthcare was something that was his platform and you'll be able to counteract that by cancelling your private healthcare if u so choose. Its sick how you can use taking care of the American people as a negative for you.

Schools remove junk food? So whats, its responsible. Its a free ****in country. You want your kid to have a snicker give him one. Whats the ****in difference. And not for nothing thats even an over blown comment. People in general are eating healthy. As somebody who OWNS a vending machine at my 9-5 i have people ASKING ME to put in healthier things. I got ****ing Muscle Milk, dried cranberries, and all of that **** in there. Maybe your just behind on the times a little bit. If i HAD to choose a side on it, i would say its a good thing. But in reality I would say who the **** cares and again your just TRYING to make an issue of something that is really not.

You don't think after hte BP spill LA people weren't effected? preserving our land isn't a knock. Why don't you take up a bigger ****in issue, like all these companies out sourcing jobs. I never hear u mention all the **** Obamas done to those business by not giving them tax breaks and **** like that.
about the health food. thats not what obama specifically michelle want. they want it to be manditory they just push healthy foods. look at that fat black congessman , hes a dem, from queens he wants to take the toys out of happy meals. they already did in san fran. thats telling a company no you cant sell something like that. i think thats bull****.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 05:00 PM
its not daven. Fight fire with fire, how is that a line of bull****? The state of the country and the conscious attempts to block anything the president does from the republicans isn't a line, its a sad reality.

****ing BULL**** Matt and you know it, the Republicans just recently won the house before that they didn't even have the power or ability to stop anything at all...you KNOW that....The Dems had a super majority they could have done anything they wanted...and they did NOTHING the didn't even pass a budget! and you know why they didn't right...because we HAVE to cut...even they know that...but they don't want to be the ones to do it...it's bad for their appearance so they pushed it off until the republicans took over the house...now when we cut they can blame them....it's a ****ing shame...


well go back and read. You basically gave all the republicans a break for their sabotaging our government for their own party benefits.

what are you talking about here...specifically? how did they sabotage our government?


You said it was okay for them to do it, they weren't sworn in like Obama was. Which coulnd' of been further from the truth. Go re-read what u said there.

I never said anything about being sworn in...I said that Obama made promises during his campaign... he promised to be different...you keep saying he's allowed to pull all these tricks because so did everyone else...my point is everyone else didn't promise that they were different like he did.


lol and there it goes again. your flip flopping. you don't have my patience of three years of making dramatic changes? But 5 minutes ago you say we make dents here and there with every president in ur response to pizz. He has totally done that,

No he hasn't done that, he's done nothing but talk about doing it...he's not taken action on any issue..(besides Health Care)..I don't need him to make "Dramatic Changes" in 3 years...but if he could do something...anything like 1 thing a year I would be happy...but he can't even do that.


the sad part which u seem incapable to accept is that there is no short term solution for the situation we're in. And i love the fact that you've had ur CLOSE TO GUANTANAMO BAY DEADLINE. IF ITS NOT DONE BE THEN, ITS A FAILURE!!

He promised to close it during his first term...it's coming near the end of his first term and it's not closed...that's a failure matt... period end of story.


If it gets done even in his next term (YES NEXT TERM) it will be success.

May god help us if he gets another term.....


Every president HAS to <font size="5">deal</font> with the hot topic out hand or hes considered out of touch. Your really trying too hard to try and make nothing into something.

The key word there Matt is DEAL with them....Obama has not done that one time...he "talks" about them but never takes any sort of action to DEAL with them.



I hate to break it to you, you have no characteristics of a democrat.. Starting with ur a Nascar fan. And you absolute have babied bush in many debates


??? wtf are you talking about here...I am definitely not a democrat that's for sure...but I'm not really a republican either...I'm conservative.

But even what you are saying here there isn't true have plenty of Democratic values, Abortion...Stem Cell Research to name a couple...but overall the economy what I think is most important right now...and conservatism...fiscal responsibility is the only way out of the rut we are in.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 05:03 PM
no thats another Republican ploy and scare tactic...

CBO doens't back your argument at all

A) he was always getting re-elected
B) Now that Bin Laden was caught, u bet ur *** he is


No Matt...it was reported on CNN/ABC/NBC everywhere it's not a scare tactic it's the truth, the CBO changed their position....after reviewing the "entire" bill.

MATT READ this is from the CBO themselves.

http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=427

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 05:11 PM
That Healthcare Bill is going to save 1 trillion dollars over the next 20 years. The CBO agrees


Not true, they agreed to that while looking at an incomplete version of the bill, after the Doctor fix was added among other revisions it will not be saving us money and in fact will be adding to the deficit.

It was another of this administrations dirty tricks, they removed the expensive parts of the bill so they could rush it through calling it "deficit neutral" then added the expensive parts after it passed so that the republicans couldn't do a damn thing about it.

It's also just peachy how all the bad parts of the bill don't take into effect until 2014....(After Obama's attempt at re-election)


no thats another Republican ploy and scare tactic...

CBO doens't back your argument at all

A) he was always getting re-elected
B) Now that Bin Laden was caught, u bet ur *** he is
unfortunatlely i think youre right but that doesnt mean its the right thing. i know its hard to swallow but what if daven is right and hes driving us further into the ground economically. just because he caught bin ladin it makes it all ok? thats the mindset of many people and thats not a good thing. obamas outspent bush in 2 years with little to show for. things have not gotten better. is obama the best man out 300000000 americans? be honest. i know we can do better.

ny06
05-03-2011, 05:14 PM
Getting Binladen should not sway the voters on the next election. </P>


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DavenIII
05-03-2011, 05:18 PM
OMG where to even start with that

National Healthcare was something that was his platform and you'll be able to counteract that by cancelling your private healthcare if u so choose. Its sick how you can use taking care of the American people as a negative for you.

Because his health care bill does not take care of American people...it actually HURTS American people Matt.


Schools remove junk food? So whats, its responsible. Its a free ****in country. You want your kid to have a snicker give him one.

No...you CAN'T Give him one... it's NOT a free Country the schools aren't even allowing kids to BRING lunch from home....that's my fing point.



You don't think after hte BP spill LA people weren't effected? preserving our land isn't a knock. Why don't you take up a bigger ****in issue, like all these companies out sourcing jobs. I never hear u mention all the **** Obamas done to those business by not giving them tax breaks and **** like that.

Ask the people in LA Matt... they all say that the moratorium on drill is having a bigger negative effect then the spill itself.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 05:24 PM
He's not right about the CBO Dezz look at the link I posted it's FROM the CBO saying that after looking at the whole Bill it's gonna increase the deficit by 23Billion by 2019 and it will increase from there.

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 05:25 PM
Getting Binladen should not sway the voters on the next election. </p>


</p>

shouldn't and won't are different things unfortunately.

dezzzR
05-03-2011, 05:41 PM
He's not right about the CBO Dezz look at the link I posted it's FROM the CBO saying that after looking at the whole Bill it's gonna increase the deficit by 23Billion by 2019 and it will increase from there.
no i ment i think hes going to get re elected

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 05:46 PM
He's not right about the CBO Dezz look at the link I posted it's FROM the CBO saying that after looking at the whole Bill it's gonna increase the deficit by 23Billion by 2019 and it will increase from there.
no i ment i think hes going to get re elected


oh...yeah I think so too unfortunately....did you read that link I provided to the CBO thing...pretty much the end of the healthcare saving us money conversation right lol.

Morehead State
05-03-2011, 05:47 PM
I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....

So that makes it ok to do nothing about it?




at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</P>


Why? I mean, why do you think he's competent...what has he done since he stepped into office that makes you think he's competent?

I don't understand how people can think that, from my perspective he's the least competent president since Carter...(maybe even worse) he had absolutely no experience when he won the presidency....outside of being a community organizer (which come on we know that's not a real job) he's inexperienced and he's just treading water...he's just doing whatever everyone tells him to do...he's got no opinions of his own.

at least Bush had a plan and was decisive and did what he said he was going to do...you may not have agreed with what he was doing....but at least he did what he said he was going to do.
</P>


bro, i dont talk politics...and likely never will...

reason being...it makes no difference who the president is, nothing ever changes.
The only thing that remains a constant? taxes go up, cost of living goes up, and everything else changes like i change my boxers. it's never going to be different and it's been happening that way as long as i've been alive.
from my own perspective and standpoint....my insurance hasnt gone up in 3 years, i still get the same raises i always have, and i can't afford to live in NY.
So if you think there is any one person who can change all those things, there's an issue.
I dont understand why people cant get over the fact that POTUS is just a figure head....it doesnt even mean anything. legislation will get passed or not get passed the way it always has, and every single ****ing person in the country is going to ***** about every single ****ing thing. nobody is ever happy, specifically people who follow politics closely.

My advice to every single American is to shut the **** up, bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</P>


</P>


One of, if not THE greatest thing about this country is that one man does NOT have the power to make a big difference.</P>


The country moves forward or doesn't move forward on the work ethic, drive, imagination, inovation of its citizens.</P>


We need to stop looking for top down solutions and lookto what has always made this country great..........Americans.</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


By the way I got back a few hours ago. Normandy was unforgettable.</P>

DavenIII
05-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Had to be more fun then arguing politics on a NYG Football form lol...

hope you had a good time Morehead.

Morehead State
05-03-2011, 05:56 PM
Had to be more fun then arguing politics on a NYG Football form lol...

hope you had a good time Morehead.
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I did Daven. I'll post a few pics of Omaha Beach soon.</P>

bandwgn86
05-03-2011, 06:12 PM
I think youre wrong, the vast majority still has no idea whats going on anyway. most dont care...and the people who do, only care that gas is expensive....

So that makes it ok to do nothing about it?




at least I feel like we have a competent person running the country.
Prior to him, we had a guy who was barely a step above mentally challenged. to be honest, it was kind of embarassing.</p>


Why? I mean, why do you think he's competent...what has he done since he stepped into office that makes you think he's competent?

I don't understand how people can think that, from my perspective he's the least competent president since Carter...(maybe even worse) he had absolutely no experience when he won the presidency....outside of being a community organizer (which come on we know that's not a real job) he's inexperienced and he's just treading water...he's just doing whatever everyone tells him to do...he's got no opinions of his own.

at least Bush had a plan and was decisive and did what he said he was going to do...you may not have agreed with what he was doing....but at least he did what he said he was going to do.
</p>


bro, i dont talk politics...and likely never will...

reason being...it makes no difference who the president is, nothing ever changes.
The only thing that remains a constant? taxes go up, cost of living goes up, and everything else changes like i change my boxers. it's never going to be different and it's been happening that way as long as i've been alive.
from my own perspective and standpoint....my insurance hasnt gone up in 3 years, i still get the same raises i always have, and i can't afford to live in NY.
So if you think there is any one person who can change all those things, there's an issue.
I dont understand why people cant get over the fact that POTUS is just a figure head....it doesnt even mean anything. legislation will get passed or not get passed the way it always has, and every single ****ing person in the country is going to ***** about every single ****ing thing. nobody is ever happy, specifically people who follow politics closely.

My advice to every single American is to shut the **** up, bust your *** at work every day, and provide yourself with the best life you can, because NOBODY is going to ****ing help you, and nobody should. It's up to you to make the changes that affect your life. not the president, not politicians, not your neighbors who have more than you. If you dont like the way things are run, leave, nobody is keeping you here. Unless for some reason you think talking politics on a football forum are going to change the world somehow. lol</p>


</p>


One of, if not THE greatest thing about this country is that one man does NOT have the power to make a big difference.</p>


The country moves forward or doesn't move forward on the work ethic, drive, imagination, inovation of its citizens.</p>


We need to stop looking for top down solutions and lookto what has always made this country great..........Americans.</p>


</p>


</p>


</p>


By the way I got back a few hours ago. Normandy was unforgettable.</p>brain draining other countries?

bandwgn86
05-03-2011, 06:13 PM
Had to be more fun then arguing politics on a NYG Football form lol...

hope you had a good time Morehead.
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I did Daven. I'll post a few pics of Omaha Beach soon.</p>please do post.. i'd like to see those.. glad you made it back, just to keep you up to speed the Red Sox are still in last.

Kase-1
05-03-2011, 06:56 PM
Whats good my Thread-Heads?!?!?

I never asked how everyone felt about our draft this year, personally you can call the 1st round pick McDonalds cause Im LOVIN IT. I wasnt THAT keen on Marvin Austin, but I watched this Outside The Lines report on him and other than being out of football there is NO character concern, oh yea and the kid can REALLY ball.

lawl
05-03-2011, 11:57 PM
The only political thing I'll contribute and it's not even really political.... A common misconception was that bush was some idiot because he sucked at giving speeches, but lets get real, this guy is a Yale grad, I dont care who your dad is, I'm sure getting through Yale is not easy, especially not something a idiot can do

lttaylor56
05-04-2011, 09:05 AM
Had to be more fun then arguing politics on a NYG Football form lol...

hope you had a good time Morehead.
</p>


I did Daven. I'll post a few pics of Omaha Beach soon.</p>Welcome Back MH, can't wait to see the Pics.

lttaylor56
05-04-2011, 09:15 AM
Whats good my Thread-Heads?!?!?

I never asked how everyone felt about our draft this year, personally you can call the 1st round pick McDonalds cause Im LOVIN IT. I wasnt THAT keen on Marvin Austin, but I watched this Outside The Lines report on him and other than being out of football there is NO character concern, oh yea and the kid can REALLY ball.
Like the Mickey D's reference, lol.
The Prince--Also Lovin it.
Marvin Austin-Defensive Tackle, I like this pic as well, especially his power
Jerningan-His speed interests me.
Brewer-ol. Not so sure about this one. I like his size, but hope injuries are not an issue.
Greg Jones, Middle linebacker from Michigan. I have to say I am almost the most excited about this pic. Linebacker is one of my favorite overall positions. Film on this kid is awesome. I look forward to him bringing it.
Williams SS -I want to see what he's got
Scott RB-I want to see that speed in action. There will be an adjustment from ncaa to Nfl, we'll see how much. If and when this kid hit's the flats, there's going to be a good chance for a breakaway run.

Overall I was totally satisfied with our draft this year. I'm giving a high B+ to A grade.

lttaylor56
05-04-2011, 09:44 AM
I read the Post's article last night about the Navy Seals operation to infiltrate Bin Laden's compound and take him out. The whole thing felt so incredibly surreal as I read through the details of the mission. They ended that *******s life with a "double tap", one bullet over the left eye, shattering his skull and a second bullet through his heart to confirm it was a kill.