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lttaylor56
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
Here now the nooner:

http://www.americancurvesmag.com/nooner/images/AlyssonHolt.jpg

lttaylor56
06-03-2011, 02:22 PM
I am psyched, I just got the coolest LT print that I have seen in a long while. I love it. Now to decide if I hang this one in the office or take it home. It is Sweet!!

JPizzack
06-03-2011, 02:44 PM
nice. my walls at home are completely baren. lol </P>


the only thing I have is my old liscense plate above my closet. I have things, but its not my house so....</P>

JPizzack
06-03-2011, 02:51 PM
Does anyone know what the term for this is...

I want to take a picture I found online, and turn it into a larger poster. However, I would like it to be printed in sections, like 20 different sheets, and hang it myself like that. it looks cool when done right.

My roommate told me what its called but i totally forget. lol

lttaylor56
06-03-2011, 03:09 PM
Does anyone know what the term for this is...

I want to take a picture I found online, and turn it into a larger poster. However, I would like it to be printed in sections, like 20 different sheets, and hang it myself like that. it looks cool when done right.

My roommate told me what its called but i totally forget. lolResult being 20 different framed sheets or 20 different sheets framed together? I have seen them separate and it is very cool looking

MattMeyerBud
06-03-2011, 03:18 PM
Why would the Eagles want Plax?</p>


They have Jackson, Maclin, Avant, as there 3 wr's</p>


Does that mean Plax will be the 4th wr? That would be interesting to see lol</p>


Jint Fan 73 said it perfectly, untill I see Andy Reid or an Eagle mgt say they are interested in Plax, it is all hearsay. </p>




why does anybody mention Jason Avant as a reason why the Eagles shouldn't get plax? Thats what i dont get
</p>


Because he is a solid 3rd wr</p>


Played in the west coast offense for years now, good blocker. And is reliable on 3rd down. </p>


Plax <u>never </u>played in the west coast offense, and it's well known he is not the hardest worker in practice. Takes time to learn the scheme of that offense. </p>Avant is probably a top 5 slot wr. the dude catches everything..


he wouldn't be a 3rd WR on Dal, NY, GB, NO, NE, NYJ, Den, Cin, Indy, Hous

and it would be debatable if he would in TB, Sd, Balt, Tenn

JPizzack
06-03-2011, 03:34 PM
Does anyone know what the term for this is...

I want to take a picture I found online, and turn it into a larger poster. However, I would like it to be printed in sections, like 20 different sheets, and hang it myself like that. it looks cool when done right.

My roommate told me what its called but i totally forget. lolResult being 20 different framed sheets or 20 different sheets framed together? I have seen them separate and it is very cool looking

</P>


dont even want it framed. i just want something printed on multiple sheets, and if possible, if you can tel they are seperate prints after blowing it up, I think that looks very cool</P>

bandwgn86
06-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Why would the Eagles want Plax?</p>


They have Jackson, Maclin, Avant, as there 3 wr's</p>


Does that mean Plax will be the 4th wr? That would be interesting to see lol</p>


Jint Fan 73 said it perfectly, untill I see Andy Reid or an Eagle mgt say they are interested in Plax, it is all hearsay. </p>




why does anybody mention Jason Avant as a reason why the Eagles shouldn't get plax? Thats what i dont get
</p>


Because he is a solid 3rd wr</p>


Played in the west coast offense for years now, good blocker. And is reliable on 3rd down. </p>


Plax <u>never </u>played in the west coast offense, and it's well known he is not the hardest worker in practice. Takes time to learn the scheme of that offense. </p>Avant is probably a top 5 slot wr. the dude catches everything..


he wouldn't be a 3rd WR on Dal, NY, GB, NO, NE, NYJ, Den, Cin, Indy, Hous

and it would be debatable if he would in TB, Sd, Balt, Tenn
you're hatred blinds you lol
who's Dallas' 3rd Sam Hurd?
NY i agree
GB i agree
NO i agree.
NE Branch/ Welker than who? Tate? Avants better.
NYJ Avants better than Cotchery or Smith
DEN Avants better than Gaffney
CIN i disagree but Shipley seems pretty good for a rookie
IND i completely agree Austin Collie is the man.. and btw he's from Hamilton On incase i haven't memtioned that before..
Hous. i dont know their 3rd

and i hate you for making me pro argue a Eagles player

bandwgn86
06-03-2011, 11:17 PM
JP, hope you didn't drop the Jays JP... Grand slam tonight..

Here's one to take a flyer on Brett Lawrie's getting called up in the next few days.. He's a killer

And Adam Lind returns tomorrow.. With Brett Cecil making only one more start in AAA before getting called up.

Looks like the Jays are just about ready to make a run

dezzzR
06-04-2011, 09:48 AM
Why would the Eagles want Plax?</p>


They have Jackson, Maclin, Avant, as there 3 wr's</p>


Does that mean Plax will be the 4th wr? That would be interesting to see lol</p>


Jint Fan 73 said it perfectly, untill I see Andy Reid or an Eagle mgt say they are interested in Plax, it is all hearsay. </p>




why does anybody mention Jason Avant as a reason why the Eagles shouldn't get plax? Thats what i dont get
</p>


Because he is a solid 3rd wr</p>


Played in the west coast offense for years now, good blocker. And is reliable on 3rd down. </p>


Plax <u>never </u>played in the west coast offense, and it's well known he is not the hardest worker in practice. Takes time to learn the scheme of that offense. </p>Avant is probably a top 5 slot wr. the dude catches everything..


he wouldn't be a 3rd WR on Dal, NY, GB, NO, NE, NYJ, Den, Cin, Indy, Hous

and it would be debatable if he would in TB, Sd, Balt, Tenn
you're hatred blinds you lol
who's Dallas' 3rd Sam Hurd?
NY i agree
GB i agree
NO i agree.
NE Branch/ Welker than who? Tate? Avants better.
NYJ Avants better than Cotchery or Smith
DEN Avants better than Gaffney
CIN i disagree but Shipley seems pretty good for a rookie
IND i completely agree Austin Collie is the man.. and btw he's from Hamilton On incase i haven't memtioned that before..
Hous. i dont know their 3rd

and i hate you for making me pro argue a Eagles player

bandy doing some shreddin. i like it.

lttaylor56
06-04-2011, 10:19 AM
Why would the Eagles want Plax?</P>


They have Jackson, Maclin, Avant, as there 3 wr's</P>


Does that mean Plax will be the 4th wr? That would be interesting to see lol</P>


Jint Fan 73 said it perfectly, untill I see Andy Reid or an Eagle mgt say they are interested in Plax, it is all hearsay. </P>




why does anybody mention Jason Avant as a reason why the Eagles shouldn't get plax? Thats what i dont get
</P>


Because he is a solid 3rd wr</P>


Played in the west coast offense for years now, good blocker. And is reliable on 3rd down. </P>


Plax <U>never </U>played in the west coast offense, and it's well known he is not the hardest worker in practice. Takes time to learn the scheme of that offense. </P>Avant is probably a top 5 slot wr. the dude catches everything..


he wouldn't be a 3rd WR on Dal, NY, GB, NO, NE, NYJ, Den, Cin, Indy, Hous

and it would be debatable if he would in TB, Sd, Balt, Tenn
you're hatred blinds you lol
who's Dallas' 3rd Sam Hurd?
NY i agree
GB i agree
NO i agree.
NE Branch/ Welker than who? Tate? Avants better.
NYJ Avants better than Cotchery or Smith
DEN Avants better than Gaffney
CIN i disagree but Shipley seems pretty good for a rookie
IND i completely agree Austin Collie is the man.. and btw he's from Hamilton On incase i haven't memtioned that before..
Hous. i dont know their 3rd

and i hate you for making me pro argue a Eagles player

bandy doing some shreddin. i like it.
[Y] Go Bandy

lttaylor56
06-04-2011, 10:20 AM
Dezz--What about those monster sharks off the hamptons this week? According to officials they are 30-40 foot monster's with small teeth that will not bother human's? Yeah right?

dezzzR
06-04-2011, 10:40 AM
Dezz--What about those monster sharks off the hamptons this week? According to officials they are 30-40 foot monster's with small teeth that will not bother human's? Yeah right? didnt hear about that.


"WESTHAMPTON DUNES, N.Y. The coast is clear.</p>


That's the word from officials on Long Island after a handful of
sharks were seen in the waters near Cupsogue (KUHP'-sahg) Beach County
Park in Westhampton earlier this week.</p>


Deputy Suffolk County Parks Commissioner Tracey Bellone says the <u>county park will be open to swimmers this weekend."</u></p>havnt i seen this movie before? lol
http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/Jaws-589x450.jpg

shocknaweny
06-04-2011, 12:08 PM
everybody having a good weekend ??

shocknaweny
06-04-2011, 12:11 PM
JP, hope you didn't drop the Jays JP... Grand slam tonight..

Here's one to take a flyer on Brett Lawrie's getting called up in the next few days.. He's a killer

And Adam Lind returns tomorrow.. With Brett Cecil making only one more start in AAA before getting called up.

Looks like the Jays are just about ready to make a run

Lawrie's gunna KILL IT !!!!!

shocknaweny
06-04-2011, 12:13 PM
Plaxico will go to the Rams, Bucs or Dolphins .....ya' heard it here *****es !!!

lttaylor56
06-04-2011, 01:11 PM
I think Jaws was set around 4th of July weekend as well.Earlier this weeks reports were that the sharks were seen in the surf a couple of feet from the shore. I think they called them basking sharks. Tiny tooth sharks that do not have people on their menu. They are so long 30-40 feet, that they are considered the 2nd largest fish in the sea behind the Whale Shark, not exactly sure on that stat--I read in ny post mid week.</P>

lttaylor56
06-04-2011, 01:11 PM
everybody having a good weekend ??Awesome!!!!!!! How's it in Canada?

dezzzR
06-04-2011, 01:30 PM
I think Jaws was set around 4th of July weekend as well.Earlier this weeks reports were that the sharks were seen in the surf a couple of feet from the shore. I think they called them basking sharks. Tiny tooth sharks that do not have people on their menu. They are so long 30-40 feet, that they are considered the 2nd largest fish in the sea behind the Whale Shark, not exactly sure on that stat--I read in ny post mid week.</p>humans arent on any sharks menu. they confuse people with something else like seals. so they tell me every year on shark week.

lttaylor56
06-04-2011, 04:41 PM
I think Jaws was set around 4th of July weekend as well.Earlier this weeks reports were that the sharks were seen in the surf a couple of feet from the shore. I think they called them basking sharks. Tiny tooth sharks that do not have people on their menu. They are so long 30-40 feet, that they are considered the 2nd largest fish in the sea behind the Whale Shark, not exactly sure on that stat--I read in ny post mid week.</P>humans arent on any sharks menu. they confuse people with something else like seals. so they tell me every year on shark week.
I know, I hear the same bs. It does not comfort me, especially in the dark-unclear waters of the eastern atlantic. Very easy for a hungry shark to mistake me for something it normally eats.

lttaylor56
06-04-2011, 04:43 PM
I think Jaws was set around 4th of July weekend as well.Earlier this weeks reports were that the sharks were seen in the surf a couple of feet from the shore. I think they called them basking sharks. Tiny tooth sharks that do not have people on their menu. They are so long 30-40 feet, that they are considered the 2nd largest fish in the sea behind the Whale Shark, not exactly sure on that stat--I read in ny post mid week.</P>humans arent on any sharks menu. they confuse people with something else like seals. so they tell me every year on shark week.
I know, I hear the same bs. It does not comfort me, especially in the dark-unclear waters of the eastern atlantic. Very easy for a hungry shark to mistake me for something it normally eats.Have you seen sharkmen yet? National Geo channel. They are studying Great white's off coast of california. Huuuuuggggge Fish. They have this hydraulic platform that lifts the sharks up out of the water for them to take samples and then put back in the water. You can really see their size.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 08:02 AM
Why would the Eagles want Plax?</p>


They have Jackson, Maclin, Avant, as there 3 wr's</p>


Does that mean Plax will be the 4th wr? That would be interesting to see lol</p>


Jint Fan 73 said it perfectly, untill I see Andy Reid or an Eagle mgt say they are interested in Plax, it is all hearsay. </p>




why does anybody mention Jason Avant as a reason why the Eagles shouldn't get plax? Thats what i dont get
</p>


Because he is a solid 3rd wr</p>


Played in the west coast offense for years now, good blocker. And is reliable on 3rd down. </p>


Plax <u>never </u>played in the west coast offense, and it's well known he is not the hardest worker in practice. Takes time to learn the scheme of that offense. </p>Avant is probably a top 5 slot wr. the dude catches everything..


he wouldn't be a 3rd WR on Dal, NY, GB, NO, NE, NYJ, Den, Cin, Indy, Hous

and it would be debatable if he would in TB, Sd, Balt, Tenn
you're hatred blinds you lol
who's Dallas' 3rd Sam Hurd?
NY i agree
GB i agree
NO i agree.
NE Branch/ Welker than who? Tate? Avants better.
NYJ Avants better than Cotchery or Smith
DEN Avants better than Gaffney
CIN i disagree but Shipley seems pretty good for a rookie
IND i completely agree Austin Collie is the man.. and btw he's from Hamilton On incase i haven't memtioned that before..
Hous. i dont know their 3rd

and i hate you for making me pro argue a Eagles player




Roy Williams. Regardless of the hype, on straight production, Roy Williams is better than avant.

well I was going off the fact that Woodhead gets alot of snaps at WR... but yes I would rather have Tate than Avant. More upside and just as good numbers and is 23.

Avant is NOT better than Cotchery. Cotchery was a sleeper #1 a couple years ago. Dude is one of the most underrated receivers.

Avant vs Gaffney isn't even a comparison. You gotta check your facts.


i'm not letting my hate blind me. I can be subjective (as possible) when it comes to eagle players. I don't care either way about Avant, but i'd take all of those other guys over him in a heartbeat

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 08:04 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 08:07 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 08:08 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 08:23 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</P>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</P>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 08:25 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</p>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</p>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</p>Agreed--I have said the same. It will take him at least the 2011 season to get back in football shape. If we are going to see anything from him it will be in 2012. It's the "if" that has people scared.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 08:26 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</p>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</p>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</p>

bet u said the same thing about Vick

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 08:26 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?


wayyy too short

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 08:33 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?


wayyy too short
always are.. we need to adopt a 4 day work week in this country. I would even be willing to work 30 minutes more each day for that benefit.

byron
06-06-2011, 08:34 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.
will he have a </P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfZ5SZZ4xE</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 08:36 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.
will he have a </p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfZ5SZZ4xE</p>

LOL not from the sounds of it...

apparently he hates the Giants and doesn't want to be back

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 08:37 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?


wayyy too short
always are.. we need to adopt a 4 day work week in this country. I would even be willing to work 30 minutes more each day for that benefit.


i want summer hours

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 08:39 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</P>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</P>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</P>




bet u said the same thing about Vick
</P>


I honestly don't remember anything I said about Vick, but if you remember, Vick's first year back he was overweight and much slower. It wasn't until year 2 that he returned to old form.</P>


But most importantly, Vick was much younger than Plaxico is. 34 is very old for a WR. Add the fact that his production was dropping in 08 with the Giants before he left the team and now has been out of football for almost 3 years. i don't know the future, buts its more likely than not that he will not be close to what he was.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 08:39 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.
will he have a </p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfZ5SZZ4xE</p>ha, nice one B.

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 08:41 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?


wayyy too short
always are.. we need to adopt a 4 day work week in this country. I would even be willing to work 30 minutes more each day for that benefit.


i want summer hours
They cancelled our summer hours this year due to the economy and an added bonus is the looming $700k medical insurance increase planned for our annual renewal. I hate it when things are bad.

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 08:44 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</p>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</p>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</p>




bet u said the same thing about Vick
</p>


I honestly don't remember anything I said about Vick, but if you remember, Vick's first year back he was overweight and much slower. It wasn't until year 2 that he returned to old form.</p>


But most importantly, Vick was much younger than Plaxico is. 34 is very old for a WR. Add the fact that his production was dropping in 08 with the Giants before he left the team and now has been out of football for almost 3 years. i don't know the future, buts its more likely than not that he will not be close to what he was.</p>More likely than not, I agree. I just don't know how much he will have to prove to himself or other's. Imo-that's what makes him dangerous. Once he get's his conditioning in place-he has the physical attributes to be a threat anywhere in the endzone.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 08:55 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</p>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</p>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</p>




bet u said the same thing about Vick
</p>


I honestly don't remember anything I said about Vick, but if you remember, Vick's first year back he was overweight and much slower. It wasn't until year 2 that he returned to old form.</p>


But most importantly, Vick was much younger than Plaxico is. 34 is very old for a WR. Add the fact that his production was dropping in 08 with the Giants before he left the team and now has been out of football for almost 3 years. i don't know the future, buts its more likely than not that he will not be close to what he was.</p>

I agree with most of what u said except for the fact that Plax had alot of minor nagging injuries that have had time to heal. Plax's use of his size is what made him special. It wasn't like he ran great routes or was a speed demon.

Plax as a #3 behind Maclin and Deseason is VERY much something to be scared about... because your then essentailly getting a nickle back on Plax one on one. For us I guess its not as big of a deal... i guess... but still thats alot of weapons

and again.. a huge upgrade over Jason Avant

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 08:57 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</p>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</p>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</p>




bet u said the same thing about Vick
</p>


I honestly don't remember anything I said about Vick, but if you remember, Vick's first year back he was overweight and much slower. It wasn't until year 2 that he returned to old form.</p>


But most importantly, Vick was much younger than Plaxico is. 34 is very old for a WR. Add the fact that his production was dropping in 08 with the Giants before he left the team and now has been out of football for almost 3 years. i don't know the future, buts its more likely than not that he will not be close to what he was.</p>More likely than not, I agree. I just don't know how much he will have to prove to himself or other's. Imo-that's what makes him dangerous. Once he get's his conditioning in place-he has the physical attributes to be a threat anywhere in the endzone.


yea i would agree he'd probably need a year to get his legs back...

which is why i think he' dbe perfect here in NY... so that when Manningham is gone, he can step right in and be productive for us

because if pappy had common sense thinking with this, he'd realize we won't have the cap to sign Manningham

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 09:42 AM
What is up, my *****es?

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 09:57 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</p>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</p>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</p>




bet u said the same thing about Vick
</p>


I honestly don't remember anything I said about Vick, but if you remember, Vick's first year back he was overweight and much slower. It wasn't until year 2 that he returned to old form.</p>


But most importantly, Vick was much younger than Plaxico is. 34 is very old for a WR. Add the fact that his production was dropping in 08 with the Giants before he left the team and now has been out of football for almost 3 years. i don't know the future, buts its more likely than not that he will not be close to what he was.</p>More likely than not, I agree. I just don't know how much he will have to prove to himself or other's. Imo-that's what makes him dangerous. Once he get's his conditioning in place-he has the physical attributes to be a threat anywhere in the endzone.


yea i would agree he'd probably need a year to get his legs back...

which is why i think he' dbe perfect here in NY... so that when Manningham is gone, he can step right in and be productive for us

because if pappy had common sense thinking with this, he'd realize we won't have the cap to sign Manningham
The timing would work for us.

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 09:57 AM
What is up, my *****es?Yo Yo!

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 10:00 AM
I didn't know Plax was a Phillies fan?

PLAXICO RELEASED FROM PRISON (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Alb7BnMCIoa2iDXokIYuxIBDubYF?slug=ap-burress-weaponscharge)

Excerpt: "Former New York Giants (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyg/) star
<span class="ysp-player">Plaxico Burress (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5037/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5037/news)</span> was
released from prison on Monday after spending nearly two years behind bars on a
gun charge and headed to Florida to be with his family as he contemplates his
chances of playing again in the NFL.


As he left Oneida Correctional Facility in central New York Monday morning,
he hugged agent Drew Rosenhaus and shook hands. He was wearing a black
sweatshirt, shorts, sneakers and a Philadelphia Phillies (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/phi/) hat.</p>


I just want to thank God for bringing me through one of the most trying
times in my life, he said to reporters outside the prison. Its a beautiful
day. Its a beautiful day to be reunited with my family. I want to go home and
spend some quality time with them.</p>


</p>

Id like to thank everybody for their prayers and words of encouragement, he
said. Id like to thank all my fans all around the world for the thousands of
letters, for their unwavering support. As far as football is concerned, if and
when everything gets settled, when they get back on the field, Ill be
ready.</p>
He got into a black Range Rover and headed for the Rome, N.Y., airport where
he was expected to fly home immediately." Read more...

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 10:11 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</P>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</P>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</P>




bet u said the same thing about Vick
</P>


I honestly don't remember anything I said about Vick, but if you remember, Vick's first year back he was overweight and much slower. It wasn't until year 2 that he returned to old form.</P>


But most importantly, Vick was much younger than Plaxico is. 34 is very old for a WR. Add the fact that his production was dropping in 08 with the Giants before he left the team and now has been out of football for almost 3 years. i don't know the future, buts its more likely than not that he will not be close to what he was.</P>


More likely than not, I agree. I just don't know how much he will have to prove to himself or other's. Imo-that's what makes him dangerous. Once he get's his conditioning in place-he has the physical attributes to be a threat anywhere in the endzone.


yea i would agree he'd probably need a year to get his legs back...

which is why i think he' dbe perfect here in NY... so that when Manningham is gone, he can step right in and be productive for us

because if pappy had common sense thinking with this, he'd realize we won't have the cap to sign Manningham
</P>


Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.</P>


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 10:14 AM
Oh so now Matt is saying that Plaxico will need a year to get his legs back. Good strategy. Wait until the old guy gets older.</P>


Please list the 35 year old WR's in this league that are productive and rely on athleticism.</P>


1. T.O.</P>


2.?</P>


Oh yeah...and add that he has been out of football for 2 1/2 years.</P>


Look at Randy Moss. He was great 2 years ago and then hit a wall. 3 teams in one season later........</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:14 AM
Plax get's out today!!! This will be interesting.


I already have eagles fans talking **** on facebook

he better be a ****ing Ram
Eagles are about the worse place he can end up for us. How was weekend?
</p>


An aging WR who was already showing signs of decline 3 years ago before he went to jail. And now he's coming back after being out of football for almost 3 years.</p>


Why are you guys so afraid of this guy? Chances are he will never be close to what he was.</p>




bet u said the same thing about Vick
</p>


I honestly don't remember anything I said about Vick, but if you remember, Vick's first year back he was overweight and much slower. It wasn't until year 2 that he returned to old form.</p>


But most importantly, Vick was much younger than Plaxico is. 34 is very old for a WR. Add the fact that his production was dropping in 08 with the Giants before he left the team and now has been out of football for almost 3 years. i don't know the future, buts its more likely than not that he will not be close to what he was.</p>


More likely than not, I agree. I just don't know how much he will have to prove to himself or other's. Imo-that's what makes him dangerous. Once he get's his conditioning in place-he has the physical attributes to be a threat anywhere in the endzone.


yea i would agree he'd probably need a year to get his legs back...

which is why i think he' dbe perfect here in NY... so that when Manningham is gone, he can step right in and be productive for us

because if pappy had common sense thinking with this, he'd realize we won't have the cap to sign Manningham
</p>


Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.</p>


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>i really can't tell if ur being daven or are just that thick headed where u read nothing anymore

either way, i'm afraid im going to bail from this conversation

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 10:15 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 10:16 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>


</P>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:22 AM
Oh so now Matt is saying that Plaxico will need a year to get his legs back. Good strategy. Wait until the old guy gets older.</p>


Please list the 35 year old WR's in this league that are productive and rely on athleticism.</p>


1. T.O.</p>


2.?</p>


Oh yeah...and add that he has been out of football for 2 1/2 years.</p>


Look at Randy Moss. He was great 2 years ago and then hit a wall. 3 teams in one season later........</p>

Manningham i like alot as a player and see as much hin him as u probably do, but with all the money that is going ot be tied up in our oline, qb, rb, dline, and secondary - there is not going to be money.

Especially because we have two other WRs who are just as good if not better. Nicks s hands down better and when Smith is healthy he is much more of a weapon for us, especially since we have Nicks

I dont think Plax will take as long to get ready like Vick did, but I do think he wouldn't be in shape right out of the gate. If Plax can stay healthy he has a good 3 years left. Hes a freak of nature

Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Cris Cartert, Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway to name a few

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:26 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>

not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 10:29 AM
Oh so now Matt is saying that Plaxico will need a year to get his legs back. Good strategy. Wait until the old guy gets older.</p>


Please list the 35 year old WR's in this league that are productive and rely on athleticism.</p>


1. T.O.</p>


2.?</p>


Oh yeah...and add that he has been out of football for 2 1/2 years.</p>


Look at Randy Moss. He was great 2 years ago and then hit a wall. 3 teams in one season later........</p>

Manningham i like alot as a player and see as much hin him as u probably do, but with all the money that is going ot be tied up in our oline, qb, rb, dline, and secondary - there is not going to be money.

Especially because we have two other WRs who are just as good if not better. Nicks s hands down better and when Smith is healthy he is much more of a weapon for us, especially since we have Nicks

I dont think Plax will take as long to get ready like Vick did, but I do think he wouldn't be in shape right out of the gate. If Plax can stay healthy he has a good 3 years left. Hes a freak of nature

Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Cris Cartert, Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway to name a few
I would like to keep MM and the rest of our wr's-Who know's -maybe there will be enuff money for all plus the teams other needs. If plax is used for quick dumps, he could be ready for action much sooner than the conditioning he will need for the long runs.

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 10:30 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>

not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


There has been talk about Cofield not getting resigned due to $ since end of season. I like him and hope we can work something out.

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 10:33 AM
Oh so now Matt is saying that Plaxico will need a year to get his legs back. Good strategy. Wait until the old guy gets older.</P>


Please list the 35 year old WR's in this league that are productive and rely on athleticism.</P>


1. T.O.</P>


2.?</P>


Oh yeah...and add that he has been out of football for 2 1/2 years.</P>


Look at Randy Moss. He was great 2 years ago and then hit a wall. 3 teams in one season later........</P>




Manningham i like alot as a player and see as much hin him as u probably do, but with all the money that is going ot be tied up in our oline, qb, rb, dline, and secondary - there is not going to be money.

Especially because we have two other WRs who are just as good if not better. Nicks s hands down better and when Smith is healthy he is much more of a weapon for us, especially since we have Nicks

I dont think Plax will take as long to get ready like Vick did, but I do think he wouldn't be in shape right out of the gate. If Plax can stay healthy he has a good 3 years left. Hes a freak of nature

Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Cris Cartert, Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway to name a few
</P>


You might want to consult the record Matt.</P>


Chris Carter and Marvin Harrison hit the wall at 35 and were both out of football by age 37. Rice is the best WR in NFL history. Tim Brown hit the wall at 36. Joey Gallaway also.</P>


Except for Galloway, all these WR's were significantly better than Plaxico. And none of these guys were out of football for 2 1/2 years and showed signs of decline at age 31, like Plaxico.</P>


You are living in a fantasy world where players don't age, and the lessons of history don't apply.</P>


</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 10:36 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>


</P>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</P>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</P>


We drafted and signed other guys to play DT. MM is one of the guys we drafted to ultimately replace guys like Plaxico. Now you want to undo one of our great draft steals.</P>


Its just complete craziness.</P>

ny06
06-06-2011, 10:36 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>


</P>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</P>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</P>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:38 AM
Oh so now Matt is saying that Plaxico will need a year to get his legs back. Good strategy. Wait until the old guy gets older.</p>


Please list the 35 year old WR's in this league that are productive and rely on athleticism.</p>


1. T.O.</p>


2.?</p>


Oh yeah...and add that he has been out of football for 2 1/2 years.</p>


Look at Randy Moss. He was great 2 years ago and then hit a wall. 3 teams in one season later........</p>




Manningham i like alot as a player and see as much hin him as u probably do, but with all the money that is going ot be tied up in our oline, qb, rb, dline, and secondary - there is not going to be money.

Especially because we have two other WRs who are just as good if not better. Nicks s hands down better and when Smith is healthy he is much more of a weapon for us, especially since we have Nicks

I dont think Plax will take as long to get ready like Vick did, but I do think he wouldn't be in shape right out of the gate. If Plax can stay healthy he has a good 3 years left. Hes a freak of nature

Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Cris Cartert, Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway to name a few
</p>


You might want to consult the record Matt.</p>


Chris Carter and Marvin Harrison hit the wall at 35 and were both out of football by age 37. Rice is the best WR in NFL history. Tim Brown hit the wall at 36. Joey Gallaway also.</p>


Except for Galloway, all these WR's were significantly better than Plaxico. And none of these guys were out of football for 2 1/2 years and showed signs of decline at age 31, like Plaxico.</p>


You are living in a fantasy world where players don't age, and the lessons of history don't apply.</p>


</p>

True but none of them had his talents... its completely different. Plax's game stems from his size, i think he will be a fine #2/#3 WR for the next couple of years

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 10:41 AM
Oh so now Matt is saying that Plaxico will need a year to get his legs back. Good strategy. Wait until the old guy gets older.</p>


Please list the 35 year old WR's in this league that are productive and rely on athleticism.</p>


1. T.O.</p>


2.?</p>


Oh yeah...and add that he has been out of football for 2 1/2 years.</p>


Look at Randy Moss. He was great 2 years ago and then hit a wall. 3 teams in one season later........</p>




Manningham i like alot as a player and see as much hin him as u probably do, but with all the money that is going ot be tied up in our oline, qb, rb, dline, and secondary - there is not going to be money.

Especially because we have two other WRs who are just as good if not better. Nicks s hands down better and when Smith is healthy he is much more of a weapon for us, especially since we have Nicks

I dont think Plax will take as long to get ready like Vick did, but I do think he wouldn't be in shape right out of the gate. If Plax can stay healthy he has a good 3 years left. Hes a freak of nature

Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Cris Cartert, Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway to name a few
</p>


You might want to consult the record Matt.</p>


Chris Carter and Marvin Harrison hit the wall at 35 and were both out of football by age 37. Rice is the best WR in NFL history. Tim Brown hit the wall at 36. Joey Gallaway also.</p>


Except for Galloway, all these WR's were significantly better than Plaxico. And none of these guys were out of football for 2 1/2 years and showed signs of decline at age 31, like Plaxico.</p>


You are living in a fantasy world where players don't age, and the lessons of history don't apply.</p>


</p>The wildcards in that equation are the 2.5 yrs in prison and his decline at 31. The decline, from my observation appeared to be not so much physical as it was behavioral.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:41 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


We drafted and signed other guys to play DT. MM is one of the guys we drafted to ultimately replace guys like Plaxico. Now you want to undo one of our great draft steals.</p>


Its just complete craziness.</p>

Manningham was a typical value pick

1st round talent that fell to the 3rd round.

There will not be money to put into our WRs like that. While smith will hav ea cheaper deal, it won't be "cheap". Nicks will be due for a new contract

LEts say there was no lockout this year and FA was able to happen, are u suggesting that we would of resigned Cofield?

and if yes, do u thin kwe w ould of drafted Austin either way?

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:42 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>

Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:43 AM
Oh so now Matt is saying that Plaxico will need a year to get his legs back. Good strategy. Wait until the old guy gets older.</p>


Please list the 35 year old WR's in this league that are productive and rely on athleticism.</p>


1. T.O.</p>


2.?</p>


Oh yeah...and add that he has been out of football for 2 1/2 years.</p>


Look at Randy Moss. He was great 2 years ago and then hit a wall. 3 teams in one season later........</p>




Manningham i like alot as a player and see as much hin him as u probably do, but with all the money that is going ot be tied up in our oline, qb, rb, dline, and secondary - there is not going to be money.

Especially because we have two other WRs who are just as good if not better. Nicks s hands down better and when Smith is healthy he is much more of a weapon for us, especially since we have Nicks

I dont think Plax will take as long to get ready like Vick did, but I do think he wouldn't be in shape right out of the gate. If Plax can stay healthy he has a good 3 years left. Hes a freak of nature

Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Cris Cartert, Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway to name a few
</p>


You might want to consult the record Matt.</p>


Chris Carter and Marvin Harrison hit the wall at 35 and were both out of football by age 37. Rice is the best WR in NFL history. Tim Brown hit the wall at 36. Joey Gallaway also.</p>


Except for Galloway, all these WR's were significantly better than Plaxico. And none of these guys were out of football for 2 1/2 years and showed signs of decline at age 31, like Plaxico.</p>


You are living in a fantasy world where players don't age, and the lessons of history don't apply.</p>


</p>The wildcards in that equation are the 2.5 yrs in prison and his decline at 31. The decline, from my observation appeared to be not so much physical as it was behavioral.


actually i'd say his behavioural was pretty consistantly ****ty.... even his draft status was effected by his attitude

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 10:43 AM
Oh so now Matt is saying that Plaxico will need a year to get his legs back. Good strategy. Wait until the old guy gets older.</p>


Please list the 35 year old WR's in this league that are productive and rely on athleticism.</p>


1. T.O.</p>


2.?</p>


Oh yeah...and add that he has been out of football for 2 1/2 years.</p>


Look at Randy Moss. He was great 2 years ago and then hit a wall. 3 teams in one season later........</p>




Manningham i like alot as a player and see as much hin him as u probably do, but with all the money that is going ot be tied up in our oline, qb, rb, dline, and secondary - there is not going to be money.

Especially because we have two other WRs who are just as good if not better. Nicks s hands down better and when Smith is healthy he is much more of a weapon for us, especially since we have Nicks

I dont think Plax will take as long to get ready like Vick did, but I do think he wouldn't be in shape right out of the gate. If Plax can stay healthy he has a good 3 years left. Hes a freak of nature

Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Cris Cartert, Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway to name a few
</p>


You might want to consult the record Matt.</p>


Chris Carter and Marvin Harrison hit the wall at 35 and were both out of football by age 37. Rice is the best WR in NFL history. Tim Brown hit the wall at 36. Joey Gallaway also.</p>


Except for Galloway, all these WR's were significantly better than Plaxico. And none of these guys were out of football for 2 1/2 years and showed signs of decline at age 31, like Plaxico.</p>


You are living in a fantasy world where players don't age, and the lessons of history don't apply.</p>


</p>

True but none of them had his talents... its completely different. Plax's game stems from his size, i think he will be a fine #2/#3 WR for the next couple of years
My thoughts as well--he's so tall. It could be as easy as him being in the right place and going up for the ball.

ny06
06-06-2011, 10:44 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</P>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </P>

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 10:44 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


<u>You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming</u>. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>i do. how can anyone not see? mario is better.

ny06
06-06-2011, 10:47 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>


</P>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</P>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</P>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </P>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</P>


My point is when you draft a player in the 2nd round you want them to play. </P>


Last year he was a rookie, and he had to adjust to the nfl game. </P>


Hopefully this off-season he will be ready for the up-coming season. </P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:47 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</p>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </p>

i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:48 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


<u>You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming</u>. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>i do. how can anyone not see? mario is better.



don't mind pappy today, the alzheimers is kicking in

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 10:49 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>


</P>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</P>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</P>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </P>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</P>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</P>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</P>


Nicks and Manningham.</P>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</P>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:50 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


My point is when you draft a player in the 2nd round you want them to play. </p>


Last year he was a rookie, and he had to adjust to the nfl game. </p>


Hopefully this off-season he will be ready for the up-coming season. </p>

I get it, but Joseph was drafted because Cofield wasn't playing good at that point....

Joseph

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 10:51 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</P>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </P>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</P>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</P>


In what universe does that ever happen?</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:51 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>

don't blame me pappy... im not the one who placed a salary cap in the NFL.

I'm sorry your having such a tough time dealing with this....

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:53 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</p>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </p>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</p>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</p>


In what universe does that ever happen?</p>

in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well

ny06
06-06-2011, 10:53 AM
You know what would be perfect. </P>


Eli Manning re-working his deal to try and keep the young receivers in Giant blue for many years. </P>

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MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 10:58 AM
You know what would be perfect. </p>


Eli Manning re-working his deal to try and keep the young receivers in Giant blue for many years. </p>

lets get real...

hes in the par with other QBs

they wouldn't do it for him... next topic

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 10:58 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>


</P>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</P>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</P>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </P>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</P>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</P>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</P>


Nicks and Manningham.</P>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</P>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</P>




don't blame me pappy... im not the one who placed a salary cap in the NFL.

I'm sorry your having such a tough time dealing with this....


</P>


I don't know what this obsession is here with Plaxico.</P>


1. Plaxico is NOT a Giant. We have no rights to him. No affiliation at all with him.</P>


2. Plaxico is a free agent. He can sign with anyone. All 32 teams.</P>


3. Who is most likely to sign a free agent? How about teams that NEED WR's.</P>


4. We do not need WR's. We have 2 outstanding WR's (2000 + yards and 20 TD's) plus Smith will undoubtedly be back after he heals. We also drafted another guy in the 3rd round. Plus Barden, plus Hixon. plus Hagan. etc... Any other guy we might bring it had better be able to play ST's. </P>


Do you see Plaxico running down the field on kickoffs, Matt? Me neither.</P>


We aren't looking for WR's. Especially guys who haven't played for 3 years, who have been malcontents, AND who pissed off people in our organization.</P>


Let it go Matt!!!!</P>

ny06
06-06-2011, 11:01 AM
You know what would be perfect. </P>


Eli Manning re-working his deal to try and keep the young receivers in Giant blue for many years. </P>




lets get real...

hes in the par with other QBs

they wouldn't do it for him... next topic
</P>


It's called doing what is best for the <U>team</U></P>


</P>

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Where's your mind at? [;)]</p>My mind is completely innocuous, but......... you sir? lol

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 11:02 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</P>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </P>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</P>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</P>


In what universe does that ever happen?</P>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</P>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</P>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</P>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:04 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>




don't blame me pappy... im not the one who placed a salary cap in the NFL.

I'm sorry your having such a tough time dealing with this....


</p>


I don't know what this obsession is here with Plaxico.</p>


1. Plaxico is NOT a Giant. We have no rights to him. No affiliation at all with him.</p>


2. Plaxico is a free agent. He can sign with anyone. All 32 teams.</p>


3. Who is most likely to sign a free agent? How about teams that NEED WR's.</p>


4. We do not need WR's. We have 2 outstanding WR's (2000 + yards and 20 TD's) plus Smith will undoubtedly be back after he heals. We also drafted another guy in the 3rd round. Plus Barden, plus Hixon. plus Hagan. etc... Any other guy we might bring it had better be able to play ST's. </p>


Do you see Plaxico running down the field on kickoffs, Matt? Me neither.</p>


We aren't looking for WR's. Especially guys who haven't played for 3 years, who have been malcontents, AND who pissed off people in our organization.</p>


Let it go Matt!!!!</p>That being said, on what team will Plax end up?

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:06 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</p>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </p>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</p>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</p>


In what universe does that ever happen?</p>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</p>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</p>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</p>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</p>Smith as a possession receiver is a key role to keep moving the chains.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:08 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>




don't blame me pappy... im not the one who placed a salary cap in the NFL.

I'm sorry your having such a tough time dealing with this....


</p>


I don't know what this obsession is here with Plaxico.</p>


1. Plaxico is NOT a Giant. We have no rights to him. No affiliation at all with him.</p>


2. Plaxico is a free agent. He can sign with anyone. All 32 teams.</p>


3. Who is most likely to sign a free agent? How about teams that NEED WR's.</p>


4. We do not need WR's. We have 2 outstanding WR's (2000 + yards and 20 TD's) plus Smith will undoubtedly be back after he heals. We also drafted another guy in the 3rd round. Plus Barden, plus Hixon. plus Hagan. etc... Any other guy we might bring it had better be able to play ST's. </p>


Do you see Plaxico running down the field on kickoffs, Matt? Me neither.</p>


We aren't looking for WR's. Especially guys who haven't played for 3 years, who have been malcontents, AND who pissed off people in our organization.</p>


Let it go Matt!!!!</p>

1.) Plaxico has nothing to do with this convo. I agree hes not a Giant. But again, that has no effect on the fact that we won't have the cap to offer Mario a comeptitive offer once he hits the open market.

2.) Again, very well aware of Plaxico's situation and am confused why we are back talking to him when we were just talking about the fact that we won't have the cap to sign Mario

3.) Plaxico is a special case, this isn't a typical stranger WR. For one, he has an amazing connection with Eli plus we have Smith and Nicks who get hurt every year (and plus u think Smith will be PUP, which he won't, but thats not what u think) and then we're going to lose Mario the following year.


Every WR besides our top 3 have been garbage. Hixon was very servicable, but he too is coming off a nasty injury.

But again... us not resigning Mario has nothing to do with the fact that I think Plax will be better than him. I think Plaxico would be a good fit in the situation of an injuryed WR Core, thats going to lose one of its best players after this season, and of his history with Eli. I think we ge tPlaxico because of how injury prone our guys are and because Mario is as good as gone

again, i'll apologize in advance for the NFL having a salary cap...

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 11:10 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>


</P>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</P>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</P>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </P>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</P>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</P>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</P>


Nicks and Manningham.</P>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</P>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</P>




don't blame me pappy... im not the one who placed a salary cap in the NFL.

I'm sorry your having such a tough time dealing with this....


</P>


I don't know what this obsession is here with Plaxico.</P>


1. Plaxico is NOT a Giant. We have no rights to him. No affiliation at all with him.</P>


2. Plaxico is a free agent. He can sign with anyone. All 32 teams.</P>


3. Who is most likely to sign a free agent? How about teams that NEED WR's.</P>


4. We do not need WR's. We have 2 outstanding WR's (2000 + yards and 20 TD's) plus Smith will undoubtedly be back after he heals. We also drafted another guy in the 3rd round. Plus Barden, plus Hixon. plus Hagan. etc... Any other guy we might bring it had better be able to play ST's. </P>


Do you see Plaxico running down the field on kickoffs, Matt? Me neither.</P>


We aren't looking for WR's. Especially guys who haven't played for 3 years, who have been malcontents, AND who pissed off people in our organization.</P>


Let it go Matt!!!!</P>


That being said, on what team will Plax end up?
</P>


I've said it for months, the best place for him is in St. Louis. Other than that, maybe the Jets. But who really knows.</P>


I think its safe to say that signing Plaxico is a huge risk. It seems to me that teams that are desperate for WR's are by far the most likely places of him.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:10 AM
You know what would be perfect. </p>


Eli Manning re-working his deal to try and keep the young receivers in Giant blue for many years. </p>




lets get real...

hes in the par with other QBs

they wouldn't do it for him... next topic
</p>


It's called doing what is best for the <u>team</u></p>


</p>

its called welcome to reality, this ain't hs football... these guys get paid to do this...

He very well may do it, but nobdy should expect him too...

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:11 AM
You know what would be perfect. </p>


Eli Manning re-working his deal to try and keep the young receivers in Giant blue for many years. </p>




lets get real...

hes in the par with other QBs

they wouldn't do it for him... next topic
</p>


It's called doing what is best for the <u>team</u></p>


</p>

its called welcome to reality, this ain't hs football... these guys get paid to do this...

He very well may do it, but nobdy should expect him too...




and i'll retort wtih Manningham should sign for whatever the Giants offer him... do whats best for the team

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:13 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</p>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </p>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</p>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</p>


In what universe does that ever happen?</p>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</p>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</p>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</p>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</p>

who the **** cares what he was...

our offense looked alot better with a possession receiver...

its about production and moving the chains


and he will not be as cheap as ur making it out to be

110 receptions is far from just a servicable guy

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 11:14 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</FONT></P>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</P>


</P>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</P>


</P>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</P>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</P>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </P>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</P>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</P>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</P>


Nicks and Manningham.</P>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</P>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</P>




don't blame me pappy... im not the one who placed a salary cap in the NFL.

I'm sorry your having such a tough time dealing with this....


</P>


I don't know what this obsession is here with Plaxico.</P>


1. Plaxico is NOT a Giant. We have no rights to him. No affiliation at all with him.</P>


2. Plaxico is a free agent. He can sign with anyone. All 32 teams.</P>


3. Who is most likely to sign a free agent? How about teams that NEED WR's.</P>


4. We do not need WR's. We have 2 outstanding WR's (2000 + yards and 20 TD's) plus Smith will undoubtedly be back after he heals. We also drafted another guy in the 3rd round. Plus Barden, plus Hixon. plus Hagan. etc... Any other guy we might bring it had better be able to play ST's. </P>


Do you see Plaxico running down the field on kickoffs, Matt? Me neither.</P>


We aren't looking for WR's. Especially guys who haven't played for 3 years, who have been malcontents, AND who pissed off people in our organization.</P>


Let it go Matt!!!!</P>




1.) Plaxico has nothing to do with this convo. I agree hes not a Giant. But again, that has no effect on the fact that we won't have the cap to offer Mario a comeptitive offer once he hits the open market.

2.) Again, very well aware of Plaxico's situation and am confused why we are back talking to him when we were just talking about the fact that we won't have the cap to sign Mario

3.) Plaxico is a special case, this isn't a typical stranger WR. For one, he has an amazing connection with Eli plus we have Smith and Nicks who get hurt every year (and plus u think Smith will be PUP, which he won't, but thats not what u think) and then we're going to lose Mario the following year.


Every WR besides our top 3 have been garbage. Hixon was very servicable, but he too is coming off a nasty injury.

But again... us not resigning Mario has nothing to do with the fact that I think Plax will be better than him. I think Plaxico would be a good fit in the situation of an injuryed WR Core, thats going to lose one of its best players after this season, and of his history with Eli. I think we ge tPlaxico because of how injury prone our guys are and because Mario is as good as gone

again, i'll apologize in advance for the NFL having a salary cap...


</P>


Gee Matt, maybe because you have advocated the resigning of Plaxico all morning and suggested that MM should be the odd man out.</P>


Other than that, I can't imagine why?</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 11:16 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</P>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </P>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</P>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</P>


In what universe does that ever happen?</P>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</P>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</P>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</P>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</P>




who the **** cares what he was...

our offense looked alot better with a possession receiver...

its about production and moving the chains


and he will not be as cheap as ur making it out to be

110 receptions is far from just a servicable guy
</P>


I'm fine with our signing Smith. And I'm sure we will. But this notion that MM should be allowed to leave (and sign Plaxico) makes absolutely no sense.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:17 AM
i know ur not typically this off, so i'll just consider this a senior moment

consider my argument a pyramid pappy and at the top of that pyramid is one simple fact: GIANTS WON'T RESIGN MANNINGHAM BECAUSE HIS PRICE WILL BE TOO HIGH

then let everything else trickle down

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:18 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</p>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </p>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</p>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</p>


In what universe does that ever happen?</p>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</p>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</p>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</p>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</p>




who the **** cares what he was...

our offense looked alot better with a possession receiver...

its about production and moving the chains


and he will not be as cheap as ur making it out to be

110 receptions is far from just a servicable guy
</p>


I'm fine with our signing Smith. And I'm sure we will. But this notion that MM should be allowed to leave (and sign Plaxico) makes absolutely no sense.</p>

WE won't have a choice. It would be bad business to give a contract that huge, because then we probably wouldn't have the money to resign Nicks....

and i dunno about you, but I dont think Nicks vs Mario is any sort of competition

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 11:21 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</P>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </P>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</P>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</P>


In what universe does that ever happen?</P>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</P>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</P>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</P>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</P>




who the **** cares what he was...

our offense looked alot better with a possession receiver...

its about production and moving the chains


and he will not be as cheap as ur making it out to be

110 receptions is far from just a servicable guy
</P>


I'm fine with our signing Smith. And I'm sure we will. But this notion that MM should be allowed to leave (and sign Plaxico) makes absolutely no sense.</P>




WE won't have a choice. It would be bad business to give a contract that huge, because then we probably wouldn't have the money to resign Nicks....

and i dunno about you, but I dont think Nicks vs Mario is any sort of competition
</P>


We will sign both of them eventually. Both will be long time Giants.</P>


Your "choice" is a false choice.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:24 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>




don't blame me pappy... im not the one who placed a salary cap in the NFL.

I'm sorry your having such a tough time dealing with this....


</p>


I don't know what this obsession is here with Plaxico.</p>


1. Plaxico is NOT a Giant. We have no rights to him. No affiliation at all with him.</p>


2. Plaxico is a free agent. He can sign with anyone. All 32 teams.</p>


3. Who is most likely to sign a free agent? How about teams that NEED WR's.</p>


4. We do not need WR's. We have 2 outstanding WR's (2000 + yards and 20 TD's) plus Smith will undoubtedly be back after he heals. We also drafted another guy in the 3rd round. Plus Barden, plus Hixon. plus Hagan. etc... Any other guy we might bring it had better be able to play ST's. </p>


Do you see Plaxico running down the field on kickoffs, Matt? Me neither.</p>


We aren't looking for WR's. Especially guys who haven't played for 3 years, who have been malcontents, AND who pissed off people in our organization.</p>


Let it go Matt!!!!</p>


That being said, on what team will Plax end up?
</p>


I've said it for months, the best place for him is in St. Louis. Other than that, maybe the Jets. But who really knows.</p>


I think its safe to say that signing Plaxico is a huge risk. It seems to me that teams that are desperate for WR's are by far the most likely places of him.</p>That co-incides with what Schefter said today re: interested teams in Plax.--Rams and Jet's were in the list in addtion to browns, skins, bucs

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:25 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</p>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </p>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</p>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</p>


In what universe does that ever happen?</p>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</p>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</p>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</p>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</p>




who the **** cares what he was...

our offense looked alot better with a possession receiver...

its about production and moving the chains


and he will not be as cheap as ur making it out to be

110 receptions is far from just a servicable guy
</p>


I'm fine with our signing Smith. And I'm sure we will. But this notion that MM should be allowed to leave (and sign Plaxico) makes absolutely no sense.</p>

WE won't have a choice. It would be bad business to give a contract that huge, because then we probably wouldn't have the money to resign Nicks....

and i dunno about you, but I dont think Nicks vs Mario is any sort of competition
= &gt; no contest&lt;

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:25 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</p>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </p>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</p>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</p>


In what universe does that ever happen?</p>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</p>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</p>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</p>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</p>




who the **** cares what he was...

our offense looked alot better with a possession receiver...

its about production and moving the chains


and he will not be as cheap as ur making it out to be

110 receptions is far from just a servicable guy
</p>


I'm fine with our signing Smith. And I'm sure we will. But this notion that MM should be allowed to leave (and sign Plaxico) makes absolutely no sense.</p>




WE won't have a choice. It would be bad business to give a contract that huge, because then we probably wouldn't have the money to resign Nicks....

and i dunno about you, but I dont think Nicks vs Mario is any sort of competition
</p>


We will sign both of them eventually. Both will be long time Giants.</p>


Your "choice" is a false choice.</p>

whatever helps u sleep at night

because i know its not the Red Sox

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 11:27 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 11:27 AM
And since, when I asked you to name WR's who excelled at 35, you gave me two names of guys who hit the wall at 35, maybe you can tell me the last up and coming player the Giants let go because he was so good that he couldn't be paid by us.

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 11:29 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</P>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </P>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</P>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</P>


In what universe does that ever happen?</P>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</P>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</P>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</P>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</P>




who the **** cares what he was...

our offense looked alot better with a possession receiver...

its about production and moving the chains


and he will not be as cheap as ur making it out to be

110 receptions is far from just a servicable guy
</P>


I'm fine with our signing Smith. And I'm sure we will. But this notion that MM should be allowed to leave (and sign Plaxico) makes absolutely no sense.</P>




WE won't have a choice. It would be bad business to give a contract that huge, because then we probably wouldn't have the money to resign Nicks....

and i dunno about you, but I dont think Nicks vs Mario is any sort of competition
</P>


We will sign both of them eventually. Both will be long time Giants.</P>


Your "choice" is a false choice.</P>




whatever helps u sleep at night

because i know its not the Red Sox
</P>


You mean the team with the best record in baseball since the middle of April?</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 11:34 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>


</P>


I doubt the Giants will let one of their top playmakers walk.</P>


Its an old story in the NFL. You draft a guy and sign him to a rookie deal. If he proves himself you then sign him to a big contract. To me, he is starting to look like Chad Johnson in his prime. I would not be surprised if (assuming we play 16 games) he puts up 1200 or 1300 yards for 10+ TD's this season. Last year he put up almost 1000 yards and 9 TD's as a semi part time player. And he was the best player on the field for us in the last 3 games.</P>


Trust me. You all would be demanding that we do whatever it takes to resign him.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:37 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


</p>


I doubt the Giants will let one of their top playmakers walk.</p>


Its an old story in the NFL. You draft a guy and sign him to a rookie deal. If he proves himself you then sign him to a big contract. To me, he is starting to look like Chad Johnson in his prime. I would not be surprised if (assuming we play 16 games) he puts up 1200 or 1300 yards for 10+ TD's this season. Last year he put up almost 1000 yards and 9 TD's as a semi part time player. And he was the best player on the field for us in the last 3 games.</p>


Trust me. You all would be demanding that we do whatever it takes to resign him.</p>Besides that fact that I agree...you are very convincing.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:39 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>

pappy gets weird with this topic. he gets all worked up and ignorant...

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:40 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


</p>


I doubt the Giants will let one of their top playmakers walk.</p>


Its an old story in the NFL. You draft a guy and sign him to a rookie deal. If he proves himself you then sign him to a big contract. To me, he is starting to look like Chad Johnson in his prime. I would not be surprised if (assuming we play 16 games) he puts up 1200 or 1300 yards for 10+ TD's this season. Last year he put up almost 1000 yards and 9 TD's as a semi part time player. And he was the best player on the field for us in the last 3 games.</p>


Trust me. You all would be demanding that we do whatever it takes to resign him.</p>

they will because they have two other players at the same position who would also be considered "top players"

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:41 AM
And since, when I asked you to name WR's who excelled at 35, you gave me two names of guys who hit the wall at 35, maybe you can tell me the last up and coming player the Giants let go because he was so good that he couldn't be paid by us.

again this is a specific and different situation...

nobody has ever really had the build and game like plax had.

While he is older, he also has had some to heal those nagging injuries that probably would of plagued him and ended his career earlier than they should have...

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 11:43 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>this.

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:43 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>

pappy gets weird with this topic. he gets all worked up and ignorant...

none of us would ever throw gasoline on a fire, would we? lmao

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 11:44 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>


</P>


I doubt the Giants will let one of their top playmakers walk.</P>


Its an old story in the NFL. You draft a guy and sign him to a rookie deal. If he proves himself you then sign him to a big contract. To me, he is starting to look like Chad Johnson in his prime. I would not be surprised if (assuming we play 16 games) he puts up 1200 or 1300 yards for 10+ TD's this season. Last year he put up almost 1000 yards and 9 TD's as a semi part time player. And he was the best player on the field for us in the last 3 games.</P>


Trust me. You all would be demanding that we do whatever it takes to resign him.</P>


</P>


at the expense of who though? don't you think we'd miss out on something else in order to spend the $$?</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:44 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>this.Swim with any sharks this weekend?

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:45 AM
The perfect world would be to keep all the wr's</p>


We have young talented receivers, if I was Reese I would do my best to keep them in Blue for years to come. </p>




i agree... but its unrealistic

essentially it wouldn't come down to smith vs mario, smith vs plax, plax vs mario

its going to come down to Nicks vs Mario

and Mario doesn't win tha tbattle
</p>


Its going to come down to our #1 WR and our #2 WR?</p>


In what universe does that ever happen?</p>




in a universe where money is scarce.... Smith has been our #1 WR too...

remember? 1200 yards, 110 receptions, and 8 TDs was it?

Hes a year removed from that, largely in part to Nicks and Injury.

Your the one always pumping the fact that we should be a running team and we will be built for the run as well... we have a ton of dough in our oline and we're probably going to resign bradshaw so thats a ton of money dumped into two rbs as well


</p>


He is a possession receiver. And that will be more true now that he's coming off the injury. He's a guy to find a spot in the zone and pick up 9 yards on third and 8. Thats what he will be from now on.</p>


He's definately has a place with us. As a slot guy and/or a possession WR. But he will be cheap to sign.</p>


Manningham and Nicks are our playmakers.</p>




who the **** cares what he was...

our offense looked alot better with a possession receiver...

its about production and moving the chains


and he will not be as cheap as ur making it out to be

110 receptions is far from just a servicable guy
</p>


I'm fine with our signing Smith. And I'm sure we will. But this notion that MM should be allowed to leave (and sign Plaxico) makes absolutely no sense.</p>




WE won't have a choice. It would be bad business to give a contract that huge, because then we probably wouldn't have the money to resign Nicks....

and i dunno about you, but I dont think Nicks vs Mario is any sort of competition
</p>


We will sign both of them eventually. Both will be long time Giants.</p>


Your "choice" is a false choice.</p>




whatever helps u sleep at night

because i know its not the Red Sox
</p>


You mean the team with the best record in baseball since the middle of April?</p>

too bad all of april counts

Its all moot, baseball is starting to become relevent..

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:47 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>

pappy gets weird with this topic. he gets all worked up and ignorant...

none of us would ever throw gasoline on a fire, would we? lmao


lol u dont need to

it gets hott in hurrrrrrrrrrr

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 11:48 AM
lol i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


</p>


I doubt the Giants will let one of their top playmakers walk.</p>


Its an old story in the NFL. You draft a guy and sign him to a rookie deal. If he proves himself you then sign him to a big contract. To me, he is starting to look like Chad Johnson in his prime. I would not be surprised if (assuming we play 16 games) he puts up 1200 or 1300 yards for 10+ TD's this season. Last year he put up almost 1000 yards and 9 TD's as a semi part time player. And he was the best player on the field for us in the last 3 games.</p>


Trust me. You all would be demanding that we do whatever it takes to resign him.</p>


</p>


at the expense of who though? don't you think we'd miss out on something else in order to spend the $$?</p>

at the expense of nothing

in pappys world it will all fit in like pieces of the puzzle (complicated)

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 11:48 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>this.Swim with any sharks this weekend?
lol nah. but i have seen that show you were talking about. its pretty cool. that doctor is an annoying prick though.

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:53 AM
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Brandon Jacobs gave his best attempt on Thursday to talk about where
his former teammate, Plaxico Burress, may land after he gets out of jail
in just a few days. He could not, however, speculate on his future
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While the G-Men have Jacobs under contract for the next two years at
$4.65 million for this upcoming season and $4.9 million for 2012, they
may also have to re-sign Ahmad Bradshaw, depending on the new CBA which
could make Bradshaw either a restricted free agent (in which case the
Giants could, in all likelihood keep both players) or an unrestricted
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lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:54 AM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


</p>


because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


</p>


You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


</p>


Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
</p>


Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>this.Swim with any sharks this weekend?
lol nah. but i have seen that show you were talking about. its pretty cool. that doctor is an annoying prick though.
yeah-that dr annoys me as well. Some of those whites are scary big. I don't know how they get that pipe that is pouring water down their throat out of their jaws grip.

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06-06-2011, 11:56 AM
<h1> Brandon Jacobs Unsure About Future With Giants (http://www.speculativesports.com/2114/brandon-jacobs-unsure-about-future-with-giants/) </h1>

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Brandon Jacobs gave his best attempt on Thursday to talk about where
his former teammate, Plaxico Burress, may land after he gets out of jail
in just a few days. He could not, however, speculate on his future
with the Giants.</p>


While the G-Men have Jacobs under contract for the next two years at
$4.65 million for this upcoming season and $4.9 million for 2012, they
may also have to re-sign Ahmad Bradshaw, depending on the new CBA which
could make Bradshaw either a restricted free agent (in which case the
Giants could, in all likelihood keep both players) or an unrestricted
free agent. If Bradshaw becomes an unrestricted free agent, the Giants
will presumably have to sign him to a new deal worth a significant
amount of money and that would make it difficult to pay Jacobs the kind
of cash he commands to be a second running back.</p>http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/brandon_jacobs_unsure_about_future_with_giants/4880485?linksrc=mb_right_col


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yea but we can pay two WRs top shelf money...

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 11:59 AM
I hear you! Not an unrealistic question.

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 12:00 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 12:09 PM
im thinking about contracts and i have to say to myself ,reese really is great. we have one of the most well rounded teams in the nfl, minus linebackers, and we have some teeeeerrible contracts. elis, cantys, rolles.

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 12:10 PM
lol <U>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</U>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</P>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</P>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</P>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</P>

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 12:17 PM
Giving away a player like Manningham and signing a 34 year old WR like Plaxico is very Redskinlike.


Manningham is a rising star in the NFL and is definately our best deep threat. If you have to keep either Smith (after microfracture surgery) or MM, it would be nuts to sign Smith and let MM go.</p>


<font color="#0000ff">And I really don't get your position on Manningham. You say they can't afford to sign him? Why not? When has a fan ever advocated not resigningour best players?</font></p>


Manningham is one of the truly dynamic players in this offense.</p>


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because fans always want to keep their best players. however, it'd be downright bad management to not keep Smith. And if Manningham stays as good as he's been, he's probably going to want/and prob. deserve to get paid more than what this team can shell out for him. Specifically when we still need to improve elsewhere (which costs money)</p>


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You guys just don't understand how good Manningham is becoming. And Smith coming off that surgery will be signed cheaply.</p>




not as cheaply as u suggest

I think Cofield is a good player, but I also dont think we're going to resign him because of money


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Add to that equation that we drafted two d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 years. </p>




Joseph can't even get time over Rocky Bernard as of right now... i will wait before I say he has any effect on whether we sign or release a starter
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Can't say the same thing about Manningham, can you?</p>


And what WR duo had the most TD's in the NFL last year?</p>


Nicks and Manningham.</p>


More than Jackson and Maclin. More than Edwards and Holmes. More than Ward and Wallace. More than Driver and Jennings.</p>


Lets break that up Matt.....Good idea!</p>this.Swim with any sharks this weekend?
lol nah. but i have seen that show you were talking about. its pretty cool. that doctor is an annoying prick though.
yeah-that dr annoys me as well. Some of those whites are scary big. I don't know how they get that pipe that is pouring water down their throat out of their jaws grip.
yea the first time i saw it i thought wth are they doing?? lol the guy from fast and furious was there cause hes an "extreme freak". and one guy goes "over 200 million years of killing." hahaa

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 12:20 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 12:24 PM
I'm not saying this is going to happen, but it very easily could:

we sign all our WRs. all for money they deserve. we are left with very little money left over.

lets say we then need new 2 O-linemen, 2 LBs and 2 safeties, and a fullback (just examples)

play rookies? acquire FAs?

we now have no money left to spend on adequate repalcements for players we have lost, so we play rookies. lol

sure we have players we've already drafted to eventually replace others. but obviously that doesnt always work out.</P>


thats the downside of paying for one position.</P>

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 12:27 PM
your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.
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based on how it will likely be cheaper....</P>

shocknaweny
06-06-2011, 12:29 PM
everybody having a good weekend ??Awesome!!!!!!! How's it in Canada?

it was sunny....!!!

every morning I check for news on the NFL lockout and every morning I get more and more frustrated....think I'll just resign to the fact that there will be no football in 2011 and if they prove me wrong ----- GREAT !

shocknaweny
06-06-2011, 12:31 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 12:38 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</P>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</P>


you guys crack me up</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 12:50 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up


no he doesnt and its because of three major factors:

Timing
Money
Personel

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 12:51 PM
im thinking about contracts and i have to say to myself ,reese really is great. we have one of the most well rounded teams in the nfl, minus linebackers, and we have some teeeeerrible contracts. elis, cantys, rolles.


they really aren't awful at all. They are going rate.

its all about drafting right... which is why Cincinatti not taking that trade from the Falcons to move up in the first round baffles me even to this day

shocknaweny
06-06-2011, 12:52 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</P>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</P>


you guys crack me up</P>


I'm sure he'll want something that reflects his 2009 season and comparable to Larry Fitzgeralds contract.....if so than NO WAY !

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 12:52 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 12:54 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.

damn canucks coming out of left field with nonsense

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 12:55 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</p>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</p>


you guys crack me up</p>


I'm sure he'll want something that reflects his 2009 season and comparable to Larry Fitzgeralds contract.....if so than NO WAY !

no shot, hes going to come at a discount

not as much as Pappy tihnk he will, but he'll get a decent paycheck


lol Larry Fitzgerald? Okay, now i really wanna know what drugs you are on... ship it across the border and send enough so i have seconds

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 01:21 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</p>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</p>


you guys crack me up</p>


I'm sure he'll want something that reflects his 2009 season and comparable to Larry Fitzgeralds contract.....if so than NO WAY !

no shot, hes going to come at a discount

not as much as Pappy tihnk he will, but he'll get a decent paycheck


lol Larry Fitzgerald? Okay, now i really wanna know what drugs you are on... ship it across the border and send enough so i have seconds
Lol. I read Serby's article on Plax at lunch. He referenced Shawshank redemption quote-"get busy living or get busy dying" Additional note-They're not talking about where he's going to play, but his agent has been making arrangements. No more peanut butter and jelly and a bed that is way too short for Plax.

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 01:36 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</P>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</P>


you guys crack me up</P>


I'm sure he'll want something that reflects his 2009 season and comparable to Larry Fitzgeralds contract.....if so than NO WAY !</P>


huh? wtf is this? where is your red text?</P>

ny06
06-06-2011, 01:39 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</P>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</P>


you guys crack me up</P>


I'm sure he'll want something that reflects his 2009 season and comparable to Larry Fitzgeralds contract.....if so than NO WAY !</P>


huh? wtf is this? where is your red text?</P>


</P>


Maybe he is referring to Canadian dollars </P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 01:55 PM
<H1>Brandon Jacobs Unsure About Future With Giants (http://www.speculativesports.com/2114/brandon-jacobs-unsure-about-future-with-giants/) </H1>
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Brandon Jacobs gave his best attempt on Thursday to talk about where his former teammate, Plaxico Burress, may land after he gets out of jail in just a few days. He could not, however, speculate on his future with the Giants.</P>


While the G-Men have Jacobs under contract for the next two years at $4.65 million for this upcoming season and $4.9 million for 2012, they may also have to re-sign Ahmad Bradshaw, depending on the new CBA which could make Bradshaw either a restricted free agent (in which case the Giants could, in all likelihood keep both players) or an unrestricted free agent. If Bradshaw becomes an unrestricted free agent, the Giants will presumably have to sign him to a new deal worth a significant amount of money and that would make it difficult to pay Jacobs the kind of cash he commands to be a second running back.</P>http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/brandon_jacobs_unsure_about_future_with_giants/4880485?linksrc=mb_right_col



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yea but we can pay two WRs top shelf money...
</P>


Do you honestly think that in Philly the fans are arguing about whether to keep Desean Jackson or Maclin?</P>


I'm sure in Indy they are figuring out who to keep, Wayne or Garcon. I guess all the discussion in Dallas is whether to keep Dez Bryant or Miles Austin?</P>


Oh wait!....................... They aren't.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 01:58 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</p>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</p>


you guys crack me up</p>


I'm sure he'll want something that reflects his 2009 season and comparable to Larry Fitzgeralds contract.....if so than NO WAY !</p>


huh? wtf is this? where is your red text?</p>


</p>


Maybe he is referring to Canadian dollars </p>lol

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 01:59 PM
<h1>Brandon Jacobs Unsure About Future With Giants (http://www.speculativesports.com/2114/brandon-jacobs-unsure-about-future-with-giants/) </h1>
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Brandon Jacobs gave his best attempt on Thursday to talk about where his former teammate, Plaxico Burress, may land after he gets out of jail in just a few days. He could not, however, speculate on his future with the Giants.</p>


While the G-Men have Jacobs under contract for the next two years at $4.65 million for this upcoming season and $4.9 million for 2012, they may also have to re-sign Ahmad Bradshaw, depending on the new CBA which could make Bradshaw either a restricted free agent (in which case the Giants could, in all likelihood keep both players) or an unrestricted free agent. If Bradshaw becomes an unrestricted free agent, the Giants will presumably have to sign him to a new deal worth a significant amount of money and that would make it difficult to pay Jacobs the kind of cash he commands to be a second running back.</p>http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/brandon_jacobs_unsure_about_future_with_giants/4880485?linksrc=mb_right_col



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yea but we can pay two WRs top shelf money...
</p>


Do you honestly think that in Philly the fans are arguing about whether to keep Desean Jackson or Maclin?</p>


I'm sure in Indy they are figuring out who to keep, Wayne or Garcon. I guess all the discussion in Dallas is whether to keep Dez Bryant or Miles Austin?</p>


Oh wait!....................... They aren't.</p>

no... thats exactly why nobody is arguing about keeping Smith or Nicks

but Dallas is letting Roy Williams go

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 02:01 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</p>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</p>


you guys crack me up</p>


I'm sure he'll want something that reflects his 2009 season and comparable to Larry Fitzgeralds contract.....if so than NO WAY !</p>


huh? wtf is this? where is your red text?</p>


</p>


Maybe he is referring to Canadian dollars </p>

i dont know what the ratio is for rubels and lambs to US greenbacks

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 02:13 PM
ummmmm if Smith wants Top 5 reciever money let him walk....I love Steve Smith but Manningham is going to be even better and far more dangerous...oh and Cofield can go too....he is solid but not worth the contract he will want.</p>


who said smith wants top 5 money? lol.....he wont be getting paid like that.</p>


you guys crack me up</p>


I'm sure he'll want something that reflects his 2009 season and comparable to Larry Fitzgeralds contract.....if so than NO WAY !</p>


huh? wtf is this? where is your red text?</p>


</p>


Maybe he is referring to Canadian dollars </p>

i dont know what the ratio is for rubels and lambs to US greenbacks
I feel like I am losing my rubels following this thread today.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 02:20 PM
papy is trying to make some case about the Eagles having two receivers while we have three and alot more money spread out than the Eagles do.... i dunno what hes trying to get at either

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 02:23 PM
papy is trying to make some case about the Eagles having two receivers while we have three and alot more money spread out than the Eagles do.... i dunno what hes trying to get at either
</P>


Our #1 and #2 are Nicks and Manningham.</P>


And I give MM a near 50/50 shot of outproducing Nicks this season.</P>


Smith is a free agent coming off microfracture surgery and I don't even know if he is running yet. he will clearly be on the PUP if we start on time.</P>


The Smith thing is way up in the air.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 02:28 PM
papy is trying to make some case about the Eagles having two receivers while we have three and alot more money spread out than the Eagles do.... i dunno what hes trying to get at either
</p>


Our #1 and #2 are Nicks and Manningham.</p>


And I give MM a near 50/50 shot of outproducing Nicks this season.</p>


Smith is a free agent coming off microfracture surgery and I don't even know if he is running yet. he will clearly be on the PUP if we start on time.</p>


The Smith thing is way up in the air.</p>

sorry but Smith is up there

and he will not. Only place to say that are rumor mills. Soon as it came out he disputed it and said he has no clue where that information came from

PFT isn't what it use to be since NBC took over. They expect him to be back and he expects to be back.

barring injury, no way Manningham outproduces nicks.

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 02:32 PM
papy is trying to make some case about the Eagles having two receivers while we have three and alot more money spread out than the Eagles do.... i dunno what hes trying to get at either
</P>


Our #1 and #2 are Nicks and Manningham.</P>


And I give MM a near 50/50 shot of outproducing Nicks this season.</P>


Smith is a free agent coming off microfracture surgery and I don't even know if he is running yet. he will clearly be on the PUP if we start on time.</P>


The Smith thing is way up in the air.</P>




sorry but Smith is up there

and he will not. Only place to say that are rumor mills. Soon as it came out he disputed it and said he has no clue where that information came from

PFT isn't what it use to be since NBC took over. They expect him to be back and he expects to be back.

barring injury, no way Manningham outproduces nicks.
</P>


Nicks gets hurt a lot. He's missed games in both of his seasons. Manningham has essentially stayed healthy. </P>


You know I love Nicks, but Manningham was our best player at the end of the season. He's developing into a possible high impact star.</P>


And its funny how your agenda has changed when you aren't defending Eli. Smith and Nicks are the guys who according to you should have caught all those passes that got picked.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 02:48 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 02:49 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</P>


Tomorrow night.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 02:54 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</p>


Tomorrow night.</p>Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?

ny06
06-06-2011, 02:55 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</P>


Tomorrow night.</P>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</P>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 02:56 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</P>


Tomorrow night.</P>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</P>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</P>


</P>


That mess NEEDS flushing.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 03:02 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</p>


Tomorrow night.</p>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</p>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</p>


</p>


That mess NEEDS flushing.</p>I lived in Flushing when the Met's were flushing the competition.

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 03:03 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 03:03 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</p>


Tomorrow night.</p>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</p>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</p>


</p>


That mess NEEDS flushing.</p>I lived in Flushing when the Met's were flushing the competition.
It is far worse of a mess than I have ever witnessed from our Giants.

ny06
06-06-2011, 03:03 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</P>


Tomorrow night.</P>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</P>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</P>


</P>


That mess NEEDS flushing.</P>


I lived in Flushing when the Met's were flushing the competition.
</P>


That was a long time ago my friend. </P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 03:05 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 03:06 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</p>


Tomorrow night.</p>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</p>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</p>


</p>


That mess NEEDS flushing.</p>


I lived in Flushing when the Met's were flushing the competition.
</p>


That was a long time ago my friend. </p>For now with the current state of that club. I'm going to live in the past.

ny06
06-06-2011, 03:10 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</P>


Tomorrow night.</P>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</P>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</P>


</P>


That mess NEEDS flushing.</P>


I lived in Flushing when the Met's were flushing the competition.
</P>


That was a long time ago my friend. </P>


For now with the current state of that club. I'm going to live in the past.
</P>


That is a wise choice [;)]</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:15 PM
papy is trying to make some case about the Eagles having two receivers while we have three and alot more money spread out than the Eagles do.... i dunno what hes trying to get at either
</p>


Our #1 and #2 are Nicks and Manningham.</p>


And I give MM a near 50/50 shot of outproducing Nicks this season.</p>


Smith is a free agent coming off microfracture surgery and I don't even know if he is running yet. he will clearly be on the PUP if we start on time.</p>


The Smith thing is way up in the air.</p>




sorry but Smith is up there

and he will not. Only place to say that are rumor mills. Soon as it came out he disputed it and said he has no clue where that information came from

PFT isn't what it use to be since NBC took over. They expect him to be back and he expects to be back.

barring injury, no way Manningham outproduces nicks.
</p>


Nicks gets hurt a lot. He's missed games in both of his seasons. Manningham has essentially stayed healthy. </p>


You know I love Nicks, but Manningham was our best player at the end of the season. He's developing into a possible high impact star.</p>


And its funny how your agenda has changed when you aren't defending Eli. Smith and Nicks are the guys who according to you should have caught all those passes that got picked.</p>

i like Manningham alot... but the only reason he was our best player at the end of the year is cuz Nicks was down. Smith and Nicks hav eboth shown that they can produce like that.

Sorry but Nicks started the season scoring 8 touchdown in 7 weeks - he already is a high impact player

Its funny how u try and change my argument. It was their faults, so does that mean they should be cut or something? I dont get what ur trying to say. They still produce at a high level.

The REAL funny thing is about how u cry all the time about how when the Giants have to pass the ball we are not a good team. So whats your solution? Lets dump a ton of our cap into our receivers...

good call

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:18 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big


besides a an article from a rumor mill - Smith is expected to be ready for the season....

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:20 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:21 PM
papy is trying to make some case about the Eagles having two receivers while we have three and alot more money spread out than the Eagles do.... i dunno what hes trying to get at either
</P>


Our #1 and #2 are Nicks and Manningham.</P>


And I give MM a near 50/50 shot of outproducing Nicks this season.</P>


Smith is a free agent coming off microfracture surgery and I don't even know if he is running yet. he will clearly be on the PUP if we start on time.</P>


The Smith thing is way up in the air.</P>




sorry but Smith is up there

and he will not. Only place to say that are rumor mills. Soon as it came out he disputed it and said he has no clue where that information came from

PFT isn't what it use to be since NBC took over. They expect him to be back and he expects to be back.

barring injury, no way Manningham outproduces nicks.
</P>


Nicks gets hurt a lot. He's missed games in both of his seasons. Manningham has essentially stayed healthy. </P>


You know I love Nicks, but Manningham was our best player at the end of the season. He's developing into a possible high impact star.</P>


And its funny how your agenda has changed when you aren't defending Eli. Smith and Nicks are the guys who according to you should have caught all those passes that got picked.</P>




i like Manningham alot... but the only reason he was our best player at the end of the year is cuz Nicks was down. Smith and Nicks hav eboth shown that they can produce like that.

Sorry but Nicks started the season scoring 8 touchdown in 7 weeks - he already is a high impact player

Its funny how u try and change my argument. It was their faults, so does that mean they should be cut or something? I dont get what ur trying to say. They still produce at a high level.

The REAL funny thing is about how u cry all the time about how when the Giants have to pass the ball we are not a good team. So whats your solution? Lets dump a ton of our cap into our receivers...

good call
</P>


Can't be productive if you can't stay on the field. he has to prove that he can stay on the field.</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:22 PM
lol <U>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</U>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</P>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</P>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</P>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</P>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big


besides a an article from a rumor mill - Smith is expected to be ready for the season....
</P>


Not a chance, unless the season starts in October or November.</P>

lttaylor56
06-06-2011, 03:26 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</p>


Tomorrow night.</p>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</p>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</p>


</p>


That mess NEEDS flushing.</p>


I lived in Flushing when the Met's were flushing the competition.
</p>


That was a long time ago my friend. </p>


For now with the current state of that club. I'm going to live in the past.
</p>


That is a wise choice [;)]</p>Yeah, really sucks. On a diff. note-my Dad just nailed a UNC Tarheels mini-helmet signed by LT with the inscription #98. It's a nice piece.

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:26 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big


besides a an article from a rumor mill - Smith is expected to be ready for the season....
</p>


Not a chance, unless the season starts in October or November.</p>

what are u basing that off of, besides the rumor mill that is PFT. Just guessing?

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 03:28 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:28 PM
papy is trying to make some case about the Eagles having two receivers while we have three and alot more money spread out than the Eagles do.... i dunno what hes trying to get at either
</p>


Our #1 and #2 are Nicks and Manningham.</p>


And I give MM a near 50/50 shot of outproducing Nicks this season.</p>


Smith is a free agent coming off microfracture surgery and I don't even know if he is running yet. he will clearly be on the PUP if we start on time.</p>


The Smith thing is way up in the air.</p>




sorry but Smith is up there

and he will not. Only place to say that are rumor mills. Soon as it came out he disputed it and said he has no clue where that information came from

PFT isn't what it use to be since NBC took over. They expect him to be back and he expects to be back.

barring injury, no way Manningham outproduces nicks.
</p>


Nicks gets hurt a lot. He's missed games in both of his seasons. Manningham has essentially stayed healthy. </p>


You know I love Nicks, but Manningham was our best player at the end of the season. He's developing into a possible high impact star.</p>


And its funny how your agenda has changed when you aren't defending Eli. Smith and Nicks are the guys who according to you should have caught all those passes that got picked.</p>




i like Manningham alot... but the only reason he was our best player at the end of the year is cuz Nicks was down. Smith and Nicks hav eboth shown that they can produce like that.

Sorry but Nicks started the season scoring 8 touchdown in 7 weeks - he already is a high impact player

Its funny how u try and change my argument. It was their faults, so does that mean they should be cut or something? I dont get what ur trying to say. They still produce at a high level.

The REAL funny thing is about how u cry all the time about how when the Giants have to pass the ball we are not a good team. So whats your solution? Lets dump a ton of our cap into our receivers...

good call
</p>


Can't be productive if you can't stay on the field. he has to prove that he can stay on the field.</p>

he hasn't even been a full time starter for a full year and he missed two games in 09 due to injury....

stop it pappy. I like Manningham but your just making false points about him...

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:32 PM
lol <U>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</U>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</P>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</P>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</P>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</P>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big


besides a an article from a rumor mill - Smith is expected to be ready for the season....
</P>


Not a chance, unless the season starts in October or November.</P>




what are u basing that off of, besides the rumor mill that is PFT. Just guessing?


</P>


I'm basing it on the fact that he isn't even running yet and the demands of playing in the NFL, and the high athletic standards of the NFL are such that it is barely concievable he could be ready for opening day. That is a tough surgery to come back from.</P>

ny06
06-06-2011, 03:35 PM
When do the Red Sox play the Yankee's again?
</P>


Tomorrow night.</P>


Hmmmm, interesting. You guy's know Yanks are not my team, wonder who's gonna sweep this one?
</P>


Shouldn't you be more concerned about that mess in flushing?</P>


</P>


That mess NEEDS flushing.</P>


I lived in Flushing when the Met's were flushing the competition.
</P>


That was a long time ago my friend. </P>


For now with the current state of that club. I'm going to live in the past.
</P>


That is a wise choice [;)]</P>


Yeah, really sucks. On a diff. note-my Dad just nailed a UNC Tarheels mini-helmet signed by LT with the inscription #98. It's a nice piece.
</P>


Nice [Y]</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:36 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</P>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</P>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</P>


As usual.....You are wrong.</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:40 PM
http://www.phillygameday.com/2011/06/plaxico-burress-leaves-prison-wearing-eagles-uniform/

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 03:45 PM
http://www.phillygameday.com/2011/06/plaxico-burress-leaves-prison-wearing-eagles-uniform/</P>


lol i find it hilarious that the same philly fans that ripped plax to shreds are pulling for this so hard.
</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:45 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:45 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</p>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</p>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</p>


As usual.....You are wrong.</p>


no... i'm not. What kind of contract are you going to give Manningham just curious?

You seem to of left that number out conveinetly

Somebody is going to outbid for Manningham. Its going to be Gibril Wilson all over again (except he'll still be good wherever he goes)

We would have to throw the house at him and the Giants are going to want to extend Nicks, they won't wait on that.

"Spoke to Jerry Reese and Coach Coughlin and Mr. Mara prior to all this
lockout stuff, and they want me back," Smith said. " If I had to start
running today, I could. Were gonna backtrack a couple of things just
because of the lockout. ... But Im pretty close."



-Steve Smith

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:46 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</p>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</p>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</p>


As usual.....You are wrong.</p>

and smith will be more like 3-4

JPizzack
06-06-2011, 03:49 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</P>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</P>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</P>


As usual.....You are wrong.</P>




and smith will be more like 3-4
</P>


if Nicks got 2.5 mill/year as a rookie, I think Smith deserves at least 3 mill a year. totally reasonable if not more.</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:51 PM
lol <U>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</U>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</P>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</P>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</P>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</P>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</P>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</P>


</P>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <U>new Meyerbud story</U> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</P>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:53 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</p>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</p>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</p>


As usual.....You are wrong.</p>




and smith will be more like 3-4
</p>


if Nicks got 2.5 mill/year as a rookie, I think Smith deserves at least 3 mill a year. totally reasonable if not more.</p>

you have to base it off last years contracts

Jason Avant got a 5 years 18 mil deal

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:54 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</p>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</p>


</p>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <u>new Meyerbud story</u> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</p>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</p>

lol where do u get me saying its Smith vs Manningham? Your losing it old man

that was a response to dezzz... u need to change the meds up....

PAPPYS GONEEE CRAAAAYYYYYYYZAAAAA

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:54 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</P>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</P>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</P>


As usual.....You are wrong.</P>





no... i'm not. What kind of contract are you going to give Manningham just curious?

You seem to of left that number out conveinetly

Somebody is going to outbid for Manningham. Its going to be Gibril Wilson all over again (except he'll still be good wherever he goes)

We would have to throw the house at him and the Giants are going to want to extend Nicks, they won't wait on that.

"Spoke to Jerry Reese and Coach Coughlin and Mr. Mara prior to all this lockout stuff, and they want me back," Smith said. " If I had to start running today, I could. Were gonna backtrack a couple of things just because of the lockout. ... But Im pretty close."



-Steve Smith

</P>


Wouldn't that depend on what kind of season he's having? I assume the team will do with all of their players. Sign them during their last contract season. If he's having a great season, I guess that means he'll get more....Wouldn't it?</P>

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:57 PM
lol <U>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</U>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</P>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</P>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</P>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</P>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</P>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</P>


</P>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <U>new Meyerbud story</U> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</P>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</P>




lol where do u get me saying its Smith vs Manningham? Your losing it old man

that was a response to dezzz... u need to change the meds up....

PAPPYS GONEEE CRAAAAYYYYYYYZAAAAA
'</P>


Did you just type this, or was it some goofy Meyerbud Wannabe?</P>


Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:57 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</p>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</p>


</p>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <u>new Meyerbud story</u> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</p>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</p>

lol where do u get me saying its Smith vs Manningham? Your losing it old man

that was a response to dezzz... u need to change the meds up....

PAPPYS GONEEE CRAAAAYYYYYYYZAAAAA


And after re-reading what u qouted and tried to pretend was a response to something u said...

it would still stay true with my overall point:

Smith is being resigned no matter what. We won't have the cap for Manningham and Nicks is going to be due a contract in the near future from Manningham. Plus Manningham will get a monster contract from someone - one that we won't be able to match.

I would be VERY surprised if he took less to stay in NY. He didn't even get first round money, this is his first pay day

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 03:58 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</p>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</p>


</p>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <u>new Meyerbud story</u> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</p>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</p>




lol where do u get me saying its Smith vs Manningham? Your losing it old man

that was a response to dezzz... u need to change the meds up....

PAPPYS GONEEE CRAAAAYYYYYYYZAAAAA
'</p>


Did you just type this, or was it some goofy Meyerbud Wannabe?</p>


Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</p>

jesus god old man, relax and read what Dezz said to me and it will all come to u...

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 03:59 PM
lol <U>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</U>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</P>


Guess we'll find out.</P>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</P>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</P>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</P>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</P>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</P>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</P>


</P>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <U>new Meyerbud story</U> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</P>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</P>




lol where do u get me saying its Smith vs Manningham? Your losing it old man

that was a response to dezzz... u need to change the meds up....

PAPPYS GONEEE CRAAAAYYYYYYYZAAAAA


And after re-reading what u qouted and tried to pretend was a response to something u said...

it would still stay true with my overall point:

Smith is being resigned no matter what. We won't have the cap for Manningham and Nicks is going to be due a contract in the near future from Manningham. Plus Manningham will get a monster contract from someone - one that we won't be able to match.

I would be VERY surprised if he took less to stay in NY. He didn't even get first round money, this is his first pay day
</P>


Why wouldn't they resign Manningham if they still have Nicks on his rookie deal until 2014.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 04:03 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</p>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</p>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</p>


As usual.....You are wrong.</p>





no... i'm not. What kind of contract are you going to give Manningham just curious?

You seem to of left that number out conveinetly

Somebody is going to outbid for Manningham. Its going to be Gibril Wilson all over again (except he'll still be good wherever he goes)

We would have to throw the house at him and the Giants are going to want to extend Nicks, they won't wait on that.

"Spoke to Jerry Reese and Coach Coughlin and Mr. Mara prior to all this lockout stuff, and they want me back," Smith said. " If I had to start running today, I could. Were gonna backtrack a couple of things just because of the lockout. ... But Im pretty close."



-Steve Smith

</p>


Wouldn't that depend on what kind of season he's having? I assume the team will do with all of their players. Sign them during their last contract season. If he's having a great season, I guess that means he'll get more....Wouldn't it?</p>

yes but apparently to you the number doesn't matter... hes just going to get resigned no matter what

I expect, like you, for him to get even better than he did last year. That will earn him a monster contract. One that we won't be able afford.

Why won't we be ablet o afford this? Becuase we have one of the highest paid QBs, offensive line, defensive line, secondary, and if we keep Jacobs and sign bradshaw - running backs.

WITH the #1 stud STILL needing a contract. My whole premis of saying Manningham won't be back is because he will get a monster deal somewhere. We won't be able to dump that much cash into our WRs

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 04:05 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</p>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</p>


</p>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <u>new Meyerbud story</u> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</p>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</p>




lol where do u get me saying its Smith vs Manningham? Your losing it old man

that was a response to dezzz... u need to change the meds up....

PAPPYS GONEEE CRAAAAYYYYYYYZAAAAA


And after re-reading what u qouted and tried to pretend was a response to something u said...

it would still stay true with my overall point:

Smith is being resigned no matter what. We won't have the cap for Manningham and Nicks is going to be due a contract in the near future from Manningham. Plus Manningham will get a monster contract from someone - one that we won't be able to match.

I would be VERY surprised if he took less to stay in NY. He didn't even get first round money, this is his first pay day
</p>


Why wouldn't they resign Manningham if they still have Nicks on his rookie deal until 2014.</p>

because they won't have the cap lol... u wanna go through this one more time? And your right about the staggering of contracts, typically they are backloaded and most of our team is signed... the bigger contracts keep eating up cap space every year.

Theres not enough money to go around and like u CONSTANTLY say, we are a better team when we are running the ball. Thats philosophy of the organization and the coaching staff. They would have a hard time justifying that to anyone. Theres just not enough butter to go on all dem rolls

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 04:08 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</P>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</P>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</P>


As usual.....You are wrong.</P>





no... i'm not. What kind of contract are you going to give Manningham just curious?

You seem to of left that number out conveinetly

Somebody is going to outbid for Manningham. Its going to be Gibril Wilson all over again (except he'll still be good wherever he goes)

We would have to throw the house at him and the Giants are going to want to extend Nicks, they won't wait on that.

"Spoke to Jerry Reese and Coach Coughlin and Mr. Mara prior to all this lockout stuff, and they want me back," Smith said. " If I had to start running today, I could. Were gonna backtrack a couple of things just because of the lockout. ... But Im pretty close."



-Steve Smith

</P>


Wouldn't that depend on what kind of season he's having? I assume the team will do with all of their players. Sign them during their last contract season. If he's having a great season, I guess that means he'll get more....Wouldn't it?</P>




yes but apparently to you the number doesn't matter... hes just going to get resigned no matter what

I expect, like you, for him to get even better than he did last year. That will earn him a monster contract. One that we won't be able afford.

Why won't we be ablet o afford this? Becuase we have one of the highest paid QBs, offensive line, defensive line, secondary, and if we keep Jacobs and sign bradshaw - running backs.

WITH the #1 stud STILL needing a contract. My whole premis of saying Manningham won't be back is because he will get a monster deal somewhere. We won't be able to dump that much cash into our WRs
</P>


The Giants won't wait until his contract is up. NFL players always would rather get extended by their own team because they are a play away from the end of threir career. I believe we would have signed Smith if he hadn't gotten hurt. They then had to wait and see what his prognosis was. Now they have to wait for the end of the lockout.</P>


Trust me, a signing bonus will look great to MM midway through next season.</P>


And every team has a ton of overpaid players. In the NFL you cut players and terminate contracts.</P>


And also don't forget (unless the rules change) they can always franchise him to keep him. If MM suspects that might happen he would also be more motivated to sign.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 04:10 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</p>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</p>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</p>


As usual.....You are wrong.</p>





no... i'm not. What kind of contract are you going to give Manningham just curious?

You seem to of left that number out conveinetly

Somebody is going to outbid for Manningham. Its going to be Gibril Wilson all over again (except he'll still be good wherever he goes)

We would have to throw the house at him and the Giants are going to want to extend Nicks, they won't wait on that.

"Spoke to Jerry Reese and Coach Coughlin and Mr. Mara prior to all this lockout stuff, and they want me back," Smith said. " If I had to start running today, I could. Were gonna backtrack a couple of things just because of the lockout. ... But Im pretty close."



-Steve Smith

</p>


Wouldn't that depend on what kind of season he's having? I assume the team will do with all of their players. Sign them during their last contract season. If he's having a great season, I guess that means he'll get more....Wouldn't it?</p>




yes but apparently to you the number doesn't matter... hes just going to get resigned no matter what

I expect, like you, for him to get even better than he did last year. That will earn him a monster contract. One that we won't be able afford.

Why won't we be ablet o afford this? Becuase we have one of the highest paid QBs, offensive line, defensive line, secondary, and if we keep Jacobs and sign bradshaw - running backs.

WITH the #1 stud STILL needing a contract. My whole premis of saying Manningham won't be back is because he will get a monster deal somewhere. We won't be able to dump that much cash into our WRs
</p>


The Giants won't wait until his contract is up. NFL players always would rather get extended by their own team because they are a play away from the end of threir career. I believe we would have signed Smith if he hadn't gotten hurt. They then had to wait and see what his prognosis was. Now they have to wait for the end of the lockout.</p>


Trust me, a signing bonus will look great to MM midway through next season.</p>


And every team has a ton of overpaid players. In the NFL you cut players and terminate contracts.</p>


And also don't forget (unless the rules change) they can always franchise him to keep him. If MM suspects that might happen he would also be more motivated to sign.</p>

i thought about the franchise as well... figured it might actually be the way to go

but the Giants don't do it

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 04:10 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</p>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</p>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</p>


As usual.....You are wrong.</p>





no... i'm not. What kind of contract are you going to give Manningham just curious?

You seem to of left that number out conveinetly

Somebody is going to outbid for Manningham. Its going to be Gibril Wilson all over again (except he'll still be good wherever he goes)

We would have to throw the house at him and the Giants are going to want to extend Nicks, they won't wait on that.

"Spoke to Jerry Reese and Coach Coughlin and Mr. Mara prior to all this lockout stuff, and they want me back," Smith said. " If I had to start running today, I could. Were gonna backtrack a couple of things just because of the lockout. ... But Im pretty close."



-Steve Smith

</p>


Wouldn't that depend on what kind of season he's having? I assume the team will do with all of their players. Sign them during their last contract season. If he's having a great season, I guess that means he'll get more....Wouldn't it?</p>




yes but apparently to you the number doesn't matter... hes just going to get resigned no matter what

I expect, like you, for him to get even better than he did last year. That will earn him a monster contract. One that we won't be able afford.

Why won't we be ablet o afford this? Becuase we have one of the highest paid QBs, offensive line, defensive line, secondary, and if we keep Jacobs and sign bradshaw - running backs.

WITH the #1 stud STILL needing a contract. My whole premis of saying Manningham won't be back is because he will get a monster deal somewhere. We won't be able to dump that much cash into our WRs
</p>


The Giants won't wait until his contract is up. NFL players always would rather get extended by their own team because they are a play away from the end of threir career. I believe we would have signed Smith if he hadn't gotten hurt. They then had to wait and see what his prognosis was. Now they have to wait for the end of the lockout.</p>


Trust me, a signing bonus will look great to MM midway through next season.</p>


And every team has a ton of overpaid players. In the NFL you cut players and terminate contracts.</p>


And also don't forget (unless the rules change) they can always franchise him to keep him. If MM suspects that might happen he would also be more motivated to sign.</p>

i thought about the franchise as well... figured it might actually be the way to go

but the Giants don't do it

MattMeyerBud
06-06-2011, 04:11 PM
and i disagree that Manningham thinks that bonus will look good

odds are he'll get alot more dough in the open market.

I hope your right, but I don't think you are

Morehead State
06-06-2011, 04:13 PM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</P>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</P>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</P>


As usual.....You are wrong.</P>





no... i'm not. What kind of contract are you going to give Manningham just curious?

You seem to of left that number out conveinetly

Somebody is going to outbid for Manningham. Its going to be Gibril Wilson all over again (except he'll still be good wherever he goes)

We would have to throw the house at him and the Giants are going to want to extend Nicks, they won't wait on that.

"Spoke to Jerry Reese and Coach Coughlin and Mr. Mara prior to all this lockout stuff, and they want me back," Smith said. " If I had to start running today, I could. Were gonna backtrack a couple of things just because of the lockout. ... But Im pretty close."



-Steve Smith

</P>


Wouldn't that depend on what kind of season he's having? I assume the team will do with all of their players. Sign them during their last contract season. If he's having a great season, I guess that means he'll get more....Wouldn't it?</P>




yes but apparently to you the number doesn't matter... hes just going to get resigned no matter what

I expect, like you, for him to get even better than he did last year. That will earn him a monster contract. One that we won't be able afford.

Why won't we be ablet o afford this? Becuase we have one of the highest paid QBs, offensive line, defensive line, secondary, and if we keep Jacobs and sign bradshaw - running backs.

WITH the #1 stud STILL needing a contract. My whole premis of saying Manningham won't be back is because he will get a monster deal somewhere. We won't be able to dump that much cash into our WRs
</P>


The Giants won't wait until his contract is up. NFL players always would rather get extended by their own team because they are a play away from the end of threir career. I believe we would have signed Smith if he hadn't gotten hurt. They then had to wait and see what his prognosis was. Now they have to wait for the end of the lockout.</P>


Trust me, a signing bonus will look great to MM midway through next season.</P>


And every team has a ton of overpaid players. In the NFL you cut players and terminate contracts.</P>


And also don't forget (unless the rules change) they can always franchise him to keep him. If MM suspects that might happen he would also be more motivated to sign.</P>




i thought about the franchise as well... figured it might actually be the way to go

but the Giants don't do it
</P>


May I remind you that they franchised Brandon Jacobs before they signed him.</P>

bandwgn86
06-06-2011, 04:33 PM
afternoon folks..

dezzzR
06-06-2011, 04:50 PM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</p>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</p>


</p>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <u>new Meyerbud story</u> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</p>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</p>

lol where do u get me saying its Smith vs Manningham? Your losing it old man

that was a response to dezzz... u need to change the meds up....

PAPPYS GONEEE CRAAAAYYYYYYYZAAAAA
when i said before i ment over, like we could only have one or the other but regardless we can still have all 3.

lawl
06-06-2011, 05:31 PM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 08:20 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.</P>


sad, but high possibility of troofz</P>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 08:24 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.</p>


sad, but high possibility of troofz</p>I want good ole dependable Amani Toomer back. He was on xm-radio yesterday--he is awesome. Looks like he is gonna do some announcing soon.

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 08:39 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.</P>


sad, but high possibility of troofz</P>


I want good ole dependable Amani Toomer back. He was on xm-radio yesterday--he is awesome. Looks like he is gonna do some announcing soon.
</P>


yea, well dressed AND well spoken. I agree,he should do commentating of sorts.</P>

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 08:49 AM
So, the girl you guys were ragging on me for hiking with a few weeks ago, she's applying for a few of the open supervisor positions (one of which is mine). I guess they are doing all the intervies at once, and people will be placed based on what branches they wanted to apply for....
And when asking my advice, she goes "hmm....do you think they would transfer you out?! I think I'd be more comfortable if they transfered you!" she said it jokingly, but its the CU policy that they wont knowingly have you as a suboordinate to personal friends. And according to her, at her last interview, my manager knows we been friends for a long time....
We hang out last night and she's like...oh I looked into it....HR says they can transfer you to carmel!
I'm like, you *****....I hate you. The only way I'd work in carmel is if I was the manager, and melissa was my slave!
muahahahahaha!!

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 08:56 AM
And let me explain how this is going to go.</p>


Smith will sign for a reasonable contract (better than he could get anywhere else) with us for something like 2 or 3 MM/year. Manningham is up after this season. They will sign him because Nicks is on his rookie deal for 3 more years. When Nicks comes up in 2014, then we will see.</p>


Everything is staggered. You make it sound like Nicks, Manningham and Nicks are all due for new deals at the same time.</p>


As usual.....You are wrong.</p>





no... i'm not. What kind of contract are you going to give Manningham just curious?

You seem to of left that number out conveinetly

Somebody is going to outbid for Manningham. Its going to be Gibril Wilson all over again (except he'll still be good wherever he goes)

We would have to throw the house at him and the Giants are going to want to extend Nicks, they won't wait on that.

"Spoke to Jerry Reese and Coach Coughlin and Mr. Mara prior to all this lockout stuff, and they want me back," Smith said. " If I had to start running today, I could. Were gonna backtrack a couple of things just because of the lockout. ... But Im pretty close."



-Steve Smith

</p>


Wouldn't that depend on what kind of season he's having? I assume the team will do with all of their players. Sign them during their last contract season. If he's having a great season, I guess that means he'll get more....Wouldn't it?</p>




yes but apparently to you the number doesn't matter... hes just going to get resigned no matter what

I expect, like you, for him to get even better than he did last year. That will earn him a monster contract. One that we won't be able afford.

Why won't we be ablet o afford this? Becuase we have one of the highest paid QBs, offensive line, defensive line, secondary, and if we keep Jacobs and sign bradshaw - running backs.

WITH the #1 stud STILL needing a contract. My whole premis of saying Manningham won't be back is because he will get a monster deal somewhere. We won't be able to dump that much cash into our WRs
</p>


The Giants won't wait until his contract is up. NFL players always would rather get extended by their own team because they are a play away from the end of threir career. I believe we would have signed Smith if he hadn't gotten hurt. They then had to wait and see what his prognosis was. Now they have to wait for the end of the lockout.</p>


Trust me, a signing bonus will look great to MM midway through next season.</p>


And every team has a ton of overpaid players. In the NFL you cut players and terminate contracts.</p>


And also don't forget (unless the rules change) they can always franchise him to keep him. If MM suspects that might happen he would also be more motivated to sign.</p>




i thought about the franchise as well... figured it might actually be the way to go

but the Giants don't do it
</p>


May I remind you that they franchised Brandon Jacobs before they signed him.</p>

true i forgot they did that, you are right but it was also a slightly different situation because they were in the middle of negotiating and Jacobs wanted to be back. We may not have that luxory with Manningham. We showed Jacobs the money, but the WR position is more expensive than the RB position

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 08:56 AM
So, the girl you guys were ragging on me for hiking with a few weeks ago, she's applying for a few of the open supervisor positions (one of which is mine). I guess they are doing all the intervies at once, and people will be placed based on what branches they wanted to apply for....
And when asking my advice, she goes "hmm....do you think they would transfer you out?! I think I'd be more comfortable if they transfered you!" she said it jokingly, but its the CU policy that they wont knowingly have you as a suboordinate to personal friends. And according to her, at her last interview, my manager knows we been friends for a long time....
We hang out last night and she's like...oh I looked into it....HR says they can transfer you to carmel!
I'm like, you *****....I hate you. The only way I'd work in carmel is if I was the manager, and melissa was my slave!
muahahahahaha!!whoa , whoa...so now you may have to commute to Carmel because you hooked her up with the pos. at your branch? I know how I feel about that, how do you feel?

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 08:57 AM
Everytime someone says "...but don't look" ....i do this...</P>


http://i.imgur.com/5OOCN.gif</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 08:57 AM
lol <u>i just skipped past the last 3 pages of bull **** because I dont think Morehead understands....</u>

It's not like nobody here wants to keep Manningham. You make it sound like we're calling him terrible, and we don't want him on the Giants.

It's just that I don't see us keeping him. Unless for some reason our team starts spending ridiculous amounts of money to sign everyone for huge contracts. Which doesn't really sound like our team at all.</p>


Guess we'll find out.</p>


dont be ignorant, hes making very valid points. mario has just as much of a shot staying here as smith, if not more. 7 of his tds last year were 20+yard tds. come on guys wake up
</p>


how is it ignorant??

His points : how good manningham is, so we should resign him.
I know!!...im not disputing this. i never said he was wrong</p>


My point : will the Giants be able to affordto pay an additional WR without harming the team financially elsewhere?</p>


would I like to have 3 great WRs? uhhhh yea of course. is it realistic? umm no.</p>


your point is also that the giants will resign smith before manningham, which is based on nothing.


its based off reality.. Smith is a FA at the moment and Manningham isn't

lol what drugs are you on
yea and hes not even running yet. his contract isnt going to be that big
Nope it won't be. We are going to get a great deal IF he remains uninjured on a bread and butter poss. receiver.


i dont get it... is dezz suggesting that the Giants are just going to extend Manningham before they resign Smith?

ITs not even up for debate.... Smith is going to get signed this year
no youre both saying we cant keep all 3


yes i know and your response was "the giants signing smith over manningham is based off nothing"

I think we can all agree that Smith is going to get signed this year, whether u agree with the Giants doing it or not they are.

Smith WILL be resigned. And I don't see how u think he wont be resigned before manningham
</p>


Manningham has a year left and Smith is a free agent now. I've been saying all day that Smith will most certainly be signed by the Giants. Manningham's contract isn't up yet, so why would you think I claimed that MM would be signed first?</p>


</p>


So let me get this straight, all day you have been claiming that the choice was between MM and Nicks. Now that you realize the folly of that argument since the contracts expire two years from each other, NOW the <u>new Meyerbud story</u> is that its between SMITH and Manningham.</p>


Your story changes more than that chick on trial in Florida.</p>

lol where do u get me saying its Smith vs Manningham? Your losing it old man

that was a response to dezzz... u need to change the meds up....

PAPPYS GONEEE CRAAAAYYYYYYYZAAAAA
when i said before i ment over, like we could only have one or the other but regardless we can still have all 3.


but thats my point, it wouldn't come down to Smith or Manningham

Smith is going to come discounted... Manningham is in the process of earning a #1 contract

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 08:58 AM
So, the girl you guys were ragging on me for hiking with a few weeks ago, she's applying for a few of the open supervisor positions (one of which is mine). I guess they are doing all the intervies at once, and people will be placed based on what branches they wanted to apply for....
And when asking my advice, she goes "hmm....do you think they would transfer you out?! I think I'd be more comfortable if they transfered you!" she said it jokingly, but its the CU policy that they wont knowingly have you as a suboordinate to personal friends. And according to her, at her last interview, my manager knows we been friends for a long time....
We hang out last night and she's like...oh I looked into it....HR says they can transfer you to carmel!
I'm like, you *****....I hate you. The only way I'd work in carmel is if I was the manager, and melissa was my slave!
muahahahahaha!!whoa , whoa...so now you may have to commute to Carmel because you hooked her up with the pos. at your branch? I know how I feel about that, how do you feel?
Melissa is built for speed and all, but I'm thinking with rising gas costs and extra commuting time--the sight of her would get old quick.

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 08:59 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.</p>


sad, but high possibility of troofz</p>I want good ole dependable Amani Toomer back. He was on xm-radio yesterday--he is awesome. Looks like he is gonna do some announcing soon.


i haven't been able to listen to the NFL channel... i need this lockout over so i can feel good about it

I read an article about Toomer trying out announcing and that he was going to school for it or something?

Where is he looking to do TV for, did he say?

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:00 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:02 AM
happy 7k

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:03 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.</p>


sad, but high possibility of troofz</p>I want good ole dependable Amani Toomer back. He was on xm-radio yesterday--he is awesome. Looks like he is gonna do some announcing soon.


i haven't been able to listen to the NFL channel... i need this lockout over so i can feel good about it

I read an article about Toomer trying out announcing and that he was going to school for it or something?

Where is he looking to do TV for, did he say?
I got the tailend of the interview of him chiming in on Plaxico's situation and kissing the announcer;s butts a bit for them to give him a shot. It sounded like he was considering radio. I agree with JP-he has a clean, well spoken presence-He'd be great for tv.

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 09:03 AM
Melissa is built for speed and all, but I'm thinking with rising gas costs and extra commuting time--the sight of her would get old quick.
</P>


I would never work in carmel permanently. unless it was a SIGNIFICANT raise. like enough to far overcompensate wear and tear on my car, gas, and being miserable in general. so basically....i would never work there.</P>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:03 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.</p>


sad, but high possibility of troofz</p>I want good ole dependable Amani Toomer back. He was on xm-radio yesterday--he is awesome. Looks like he is gonna do some announcing soon.


i haven't been able to listen to the NFL channel... i need this lockout over so i can feel good about it

I read an article about Toomer trying out announcing and that he was going to school for it or something?

Where is he looking to do TV for, did he say?
I got the tailend of the interview of him chiming in on Plaxico's situation and kissing the announcer;s butts a bit for them to give him a shot. It sounded like he was considering radio. I agree with JP-he has a clean, well spoken presence-He'd be great for tv.

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 09:04 AM
Happy 7000th page!!

What a MILESTONE!!! =]

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:05 AM
happy 7k
[Y] I take that 7 and raise you 1. Do you think we will be on the same forum software when this reaches 10k?

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:05 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.</p>


sad, but high possibility of troofz</p>I want good ole dependable Amani Toomer back. He was on xm-radio yesterday--he is awesome. Looks like he is gonna do some announcing soon.


i haven't been able to listen to the NFL channel... i need this lockout over so i can feel good about it

I read an article about Toomer trying out announcing and that he was going to school for it or something?

Where is he looking to do TV for, did he say?
I got the tailend of the interview of him chiming in on Plaxico's situation and kissing the announcer;s butts a bit for them to give him a shot. It sounded like he was considering radio. I agree with JP-he has a clean, well spoken presence-He'd be great for tv.


i think he does one of those weekly giants shows already... or maybe a postgame show? I remember seeing him on alot

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:06 AM
Melissa is built for speed and all, but I'm thinking with rising gas costs and extra commuting time--the sight of her would get old quick.
</p>


I would never work in carmel permanently. unless it was a SIGNIFICANT raise. like enough to far overcompensate wear and tear on my car, gas, and being miserable in general. so basically....i would never work there.</p>No chance your friend get's the supervisor job at a diff branch?

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:06 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.</p>


sad, but high possibility of troofz</p>I want good ole dependable Amani Toomer back. He was on xm-radio yesterday--he is awesome. Looks like he is gonna do some announcing soon.


i haven't been able to listen to the NFL channel... i need this lockout over so i can feel good about it

I read an article about Toomer trying out announcing and that he was going to school for it or something?

Where is he looking to do TV for, did he say?
I got the tailend of the interview of him chiming in on Plaxico's situation and kissing the announcer;s butts a bit for them to give him a shot. It sounded like he was considering radio. I agree with JP-he has a clean, well spoken presence-He'd be great for tv.


i think he does one of those weekly giants shows already... or maybe a postgame show? I remember seeing him on alot
Yes--your right. It's on channel 9 on comcast--I watch it Sunday's when there are away games.

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:07 AM
happy 7k
[Y] I take that 7 and raise you 1. Do you think we will be on the same forum software when this reaches 10k?


as of right now.... yea

the kind we were suppose to move to is the same kind that like 10 different nfl teams just switched to and they asked the mods to go check them out and what they thought of the layouts. I never tried but others did and they said they hated it. And those are guys that DESPISE the way these boards are.....

So I think we're staying wtih this style as of righ tnow

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:08 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:08 AM
Melissa is built for speed and all, but I'm thinking with rising gas costs and extra commuting time--the sight of her would get old quick.
</p>


I would never work in carmel permanently. unless it was a SIGNIFICANT raise. like enough to far overcompensate wear and tear on my car, gas, and being miserable in general. so basically....i would never work there.</p>

tell her her mouth is a savings account and you got a moneyshot deposit for her

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 09:08 AM
Melissa is built for speed and all, but I'm thinking with rising gas costs and extra commuting time--the sight of her would get old quick.
</P>


I would never work in carmel permanently. unless it was a SIGNIFICANT raise. like enough to far overcompensate wear and tear on my car, gas, and being miserable in general. so basically....i would never work there.</P>


No chance your friend get's the supervisor job at a diff branch?
</P>


oh there is...but even if it's here, i highly doubt theyd move me. they'd probably warn us both about the working together. I dont really get it though. I've worked at this place so long that ive made friends with a ton of people. they going to prevent everyone from working with each other? lol</P>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:09 AM
happy 7k
[Y] I take that 7 and raise you 1. Do you think we will be on the same forum software when this reaches 10k?


as of right now.... yea

the kind we were suppose to move to is the same kind that like 10 different nfl teams just switched to and they asked the mods to go check them out and what they thought of the layouts. I never tried but others did and they said they hated it. And those are guys that DESPISE the way these boards are.....

So I think we're staying wtih this style as of righ tnow
K-cool, I guess.

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:09 AM
Melissa is built for speed and all, but I'm thinking with rising gas costs and extra commuting time--the sight of her would get old quick.
</p>


I would never work in carmel permanently. unless it was a SIGNIFICANT raise. like enough to far overcompensate wear and tear on my car, gas, and being miserable in general. so basically....i would never work there.</p>

tell her her mouth is a savings account and you got a moneyshot deposit for her
That would be G-Money, g is short for GIZZ.

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:10 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:10 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:11 AM
Melissa is built for speed and all, but I'm thinking with rising gas costs and extra commuting time--the sight of her would get old quick.
</p>


I would never work in carmel permanently. unless it was a SIGNIFICANT raise. like enough to far overcompensate wear and tear on my car, gas, and being miserable in general. so basically....i would never work there.</p>


No chance your friend get's the supervisor job at a diff branch?
</p>


oh there is...but even if it's here, i highly doubt theyd move me. they'd probably warn us both about the working together. I dont really get it though. I've worked at this place so long that ive made friends with a ton of people. they going to prevent everyone from working with each other? lol</p>Maybe they want to avoid this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/da/The_Town_Poster.jpg/215px-The_Town_Poster.jpg

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 09:11 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?
</P>


I would take his footwork into account first and foremost. but i'm really bad at these kind of comparison things. so i dont know who i'd say he is like the most.</P>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:12 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


I can see TO, but smaller. To is freaking jacked up. Does Nick's have To's speed?

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:12 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


I can see TO, but smaller. To is freaking jacked up. Does Nick's have To's speed?

Morehead State
06-07-2011, 09:13 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
</P>


Anquan.</P>

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 09:15 AM
Anquan.</P>


</P>


hmm....I see that.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:17 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


I can see TO, but smaller. To is freaking jacked up. Does Nick's have To's speed?


they had TO clocked at 4.35 and Nicks at 4.5

hmmm... lol... i guess TO isn't really a good call. I guess hes not as physical either

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 09:18 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
</p>


Anquan.</p>

good cal pappy

but a young Anquan...

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:21 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?
</p>


I would take his footwork into account first and foremost. but i'm really bad at these kind of comparison things. so i dont know who i'd say he is like the most.</p>Yeah-me too, unless the player's right in front of my face, I'm bad at it too.

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:23 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


I can see TO, but smaller. To is freaking jacked up. Does Nick's have To's speed?


they had TO clocked at 4.35 and Nicks at 4.5

hmmm... lol... i guess TO isn't really a good call. I guess hes not as physical either
Yeah--To is VERY physical. Anqoun Bolden? Maybe catching ability?--but that dude is tougher than dirt. I haven't seen Nicks take hit's like Bolden yet.

Morehead State
06-07-2011, 09:24 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</P>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</P>


</P>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</P>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</P>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:28 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</p>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</p>


</p>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</p>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</p>We were making comparison's to Nick's. I mentioned Plax as a poor comparison.

Morehead State
06-07-2011, 09:30 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</P>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</P>


</P>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</P>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</P>


We were making comparison's to Nick's. I mentioned Plax as a poor comparison.
</P>


This is America. And I can go off on a tangent if I want to.</P>


http://onlineimage1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/American-Flag-Image.jpg</P>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:35 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</p>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</p>


</p>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</p>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</p>


We were making comparison's to Nick's. I mentioned Plax as a poor comparison.
</p>


This is America. And I can go off on a tangent if I want to.</p>


http://onlineimage1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/American-Flag-Image.jpg</p>Of course you can--I do the majority of the time. For Plax comparison's--TO is my standard.

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:36 AM
<h1>Toomer headed to 'Broadcast Bootcamp'</h1>








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</a>
</div>UpdatedJun 6, 2011 1:01 PM ET</div><div class="fs-page-article-article-container"><div class="fs-article">




On the day Plaxico Burress (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/plaxico-burress/70555) took a major step toward salvaging his NFL career, another former New York Giants (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/new-york-giants/67056) wide receiver officially learned the league will help mold his post-football livelihood.</p>



A source told FOXSports.com on Monday that Amani Toomer will be one of
the 16 former players participating later this month in the NFL's
"Broadcast Bootcamp."</p>



</p><div class="parentWrapper">
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http://o.static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2011/05/17/051711-Take-A-Break-SW-PI_20110517210432914_202_97.JPG (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-offseason-what-players-are-doing-during-the-lockout-051711)
<h3>
TAKE A BREAK (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-offseason-what-players-are-doing-during-the-lockout-051711)</h3>
NFL players find new ways to pass the time (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-offseason-what-players-are-doing-during-the-lockout-051711) without football.</div>
</div>




The program was designed to help current and former players pursue
media careers. Because of the NFL lockout, only former players will be
involved in this year's sessions, set for June 20-23.</p>



A 13-year member of the Giants (1996-2008), Toomer was selected for the
program despite his scathing comments about NFL commissioner Roger
Goodell earlier this year. In an ESPN radio interview discussing the
league's labor impasse with its players, Toomer compared Goodell's power
to that held by the Gestapo in Nazi Germany during the 1930s and 1940s.
Toomer later apologized.</p>



Toomer and Burress were key parts of the 2007 Giants team that upset
New England in Super Bowl XLII. Burress was released Monday after
serving 21 months in New York state prison for a weapons charge. He is
expected to sign with a new team and resume his NFL career.</p>



Antonio Freeman, Tony Banks and Dan Klecko are among the former NFL
players enrolled in the "Broadcast Bootcamp." All will receive tutoring
from members of the NFL's broadcast partners.</p>



The program has proven successful in helping former players land media
gigs. Thirty-six of the 90 participants between 2007 and 2010 have
landed jobs in the industry.</p>
</div>
</div>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:40 AM
Mike Leshoure(2nd rd draft pic to lions this year). I guess you have to like his enthusiasm?


http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mikel-leshoure-tattoo.jpg

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 09:46 AM
Mike Leshoure(2nd rd draft pic to lions this year). I guess you have to like his enthusiasm?


http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mikel-leshoure-tattoo.jpg
</P>


jeez....i uhh...hope they dont trade him...or fail to resign him &gt;.&lt;</P>

Morehead State
06-07-2011, 09:46 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</P>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</P>


</P>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</P>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</P>


We were making comparison's to Nick's. I mentioned Plax as a poor comparison.
</P>


This is America. And I can go off on a tangent if I want to.</P>


http://onlineimage1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/American-Flag-Image.jpg</P>


Of course you can--I do the majority of the time. For Plax comparison's--TO is my standard.
</P>


For a minute there I thought you hated America.</P>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:51 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</p>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</p>


</p>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</p>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</p>


We were making comparison's to Nick's. I mentioned Plax as a poor comparison.
</p>


This is America. And I can go off on a tangent if I want to.</p>


http://onlineimage1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/American-Flag-Image.jpg</p>


Of course you can--I do the majority of the time. For Plax comparison's--TO is my standard.
</p>


For a minute there I thought you hated America.</p>ha, no way, I bleed red white and blue for two passions=NYG and USA.

I cannot criticize going off on tangents...That is predominately what I do. lol

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 09:53 AM
Mike Leshoure(2nd rd draft pic to lions this year). I guess you have to like his enthusiasm?


http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mikel-leshoure-tattoo.jpg
</p>


jeez....i uhh...hope they dont trade him...or fail to resign him &gt;.&lt;</p>Yep--I guess Lions will always be the team that drafted him. He wanted to commemorate a huge life accomplishment. I don't know if I would of done it.

Morehead State
06-07-2011, 09:56 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</P>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</P>


</P>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</P>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</P>


We were making comparison's to Nick's. I mentioned Plax as a poor comparison.
</P>


This is America. And I can go off on a tangent if I want to.</P>


http://onlineimage1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/American-Flag-Image.jpg</P>


Of course you can--I do the majority of the time. For Plax comparison's--TO is my standard.
</P>


For a minute there I thought you hated America.</P>


ha, no way, I bleed red white and blue for two passions=NYG and USA.

I cannot criticize going off on tangents...That is predominately what I do. lol
</P>


And the Boston Red Sox.</P>

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 10:00 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</p>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</p>


</p>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</p>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</p>


We were making comparison's to Nick's. I mentioned Plax as a poor comparison.
</p>


This is America. And I can go off on a tangent if I want to.</p>


http://onlineimage1.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/American-Flag-Image.jpg</p>


Of course you can--I do the majority of the time. For Plax comparison's--TO is my standard.
</p>


For a minute there I thought you hated America.</p>


ha, no way, I bleed red white and blue for two passions=NYG and USA.

I cannot criticize going off on tangents...That is predominately what I do. lol
</p>


And the Boston Red Sox.</p>Yes Sir! and Orange, white , blue for Met's.

MattMeyerBud
06-07-2011, 10:00 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</p>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</p>


</p>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</p>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</p>

how dare u put an eagles face up and say anything positive about him..

to the gallows with you

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 10:02 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</p>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</p>


</p>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</p>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</p>

how dare u put an eagles face up and say anything positive about him..

to the gallows with you
Omg-we better end the losing streak with them this year.

JPizzack
06-07-2011, 10:04 AM
how dare u put an eagles face up and say anything positive about him..

to the gallows with you
</P>


off with his head!!!</P>

Morehead State
06-07-2011, 10:05 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</P>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</P>


</P>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</P>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</P>




how dare u put an eagles face up and say anything positive about him..

to the gallows with you
</P>


You weren't alive when he played. Its OK. When we were 2-12, we didn't have any rivals.</P>

dezzzR
06-07-2011, 10:06 AM
so anthoney wiener showed his wiener...

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 10:08 AM
Jersey Shore stuff:

"Mike the Situation's" Dad is "Frank the confrontation" lmao.

Frank was on Howard this am speaking about how he asked Mike for some money for his recent hospitalization. Allegedly-Mike lived with his Dad until about 1 month after Jersey Shore started and then he flew the coop. Frank has not spoken to or seen Mike since last June 2010 for a b-day party.

Franks spoke of Mike being a very accomplished martial artist. I thought I read last week that the Juicer kid on the show beat the crap out of Mike. What kind of martial arts is that?

Howard is awesome-he told Frank that he should bang snookie and then later told him to bang lindsey lohan. hahahha.

lttaylor56
06-07-2011, 10:09 AM
so anthoney wiener showed his wiener...
Great press conference by that guy-what a tool. LOL.

dezzzR
06-07-2011, 10:09 AM
In 3 years all 3 will not be on our team.

thats what I think as well..


i hope im SO wrong but I doubt it. And I think its going to come down to a decision between Manningham and Nicks.. and i dont think there is a decision to mbe made.

I like the Manningham comparison to ocho

who would u guys compare nicks to?
I am drawing a little bit of blank. First coming to mind--Nick's compared to Plax? I base that on his lankiness and hands?


ehhhhhhhh

i dunno... i honestly can say that I dont think Plax has been duplicated. That 6'6 frame was unique

i think i'd go wtih a smaller TO


</p>


The question isn't "who reminds you of Plaxico?" It should be "Who does Plaxico remind you of?"</p>


</p>


And its this guy...... Even wore the same number.</p>


http://public.bracketeers.com/images/challengers/1297907971pg2_g_hcarmichael1_400.jpg</p>




how dare u put an eagles face up and say anything positive about him..

to the gallows with you
</p>


You weren't alive when he played. Its OK. When we were 2-12, <u>we didn't have any rivals.</u></p>so you pulled for the eagles?? i knew it.