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Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:09 PM
i say we incorporate keeper rules this year

so u will draft with the mindset that u are going to keep players

no gay keeper rules, you can only keep a player from the 8th round and on. Thye will then cost half of whatever they cost u the previous year. Say u draft someone in the 8th round u want to keep the following year, it will cost u ur 4th round pick that year

We don't even have the same people playing every year. It would be impossible. If someone quits then who gets their keepers? I think we should just leave it the way it is. But we will have a vote and blabbity blabbity blah. What we really need to figure out is the trade situations and what is "fair"

I also like the idea of picking my whole new team every year. I don't want keepers. You already play in a keeper league Matt with your pops.


well I think the A & B leagues thing is done

so what. Whoever joins takes over somebody elses team.

Just suggesting it to see what everybody thinks... relax princess

NO MORE FLEX
</P>


We all know who the best player is. I had the most points in the league by a mile.I can't help it if a couple guys played like crap during playoff time.</P>


I told you all that Tom Brady would be the #1point getter in FF on draft day. You all laughed.</P>




sad truth of it was that he was the third QB selected and he was the third highest scoring QB

we all said you should of took Peyton over him and Peyton did have a better year points wise

not to mention Vick was very close in points and missed alot more games

sorry pappy... u still didn't justify going BRady over Peyton
</P>


Check the draft. There were a lot more than two QB's off the board Matt.</P>

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 01:09 PM
It feels like I never left. lol

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 01:13 PM
"jeter will remain leadoff upon return" i ****ing hate girdardi. HATE HIM. dumb as dog ****.
</p>


says the guy who loves jorge posada....lol</p>someone hasnt been watching......hes turned it around.


yea but u loved him behind the plate... even with Cervelli and Martin out he wasn't getting playing time lol
again girardis a fool. hes serviceable. if veritek can do it so can jorge

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:13 PM
OK I checked and your right. i took Brady as the 3rd QB but his performance was great. Pretty sure he outperformed every QB except maybe Rivers.

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:13 PM
i say we incorporate keeper rules this year

so u will draft with the mindset that u are going to keep players

no gay keeper rules, you can only keep a player from the 8th round and on. Thye will then cost half of whatever they cost u the previous year. Say u draft someone in the 8th round u want to keep the following year, it will cost u ur 4th round pick that year

We don't even have the same people playing every year. It would be impossible. If someone quits then who gets their keepers? I think we should just leave it the way it is. But we will have a vote and blabbity blabbity blah. What we really need to figure out is the trade situations and what is "fair"

I also like the idea of picking my whole new team every year. I don't want keepers. You already play in a keeper league Matt with your pops.


well I think the A &amp; B leagues thing is done

so what. Whoever joins takes over somebody elses team.

Just suggesting it to see what everybody thinks... relax princess

NO MORE FLEX
</p>


We all know who the best player is. I had the most points in the league by a mile.I can't help it if a couple guys played like crap during playoff time.</p>


I told you all that Tom Brady would be the #1point getter in FF on draft day. You all laughed.</p>




sad truth of it was that he was the third QB selected and he was the third highest scoring QB

we all said you should of took Peyton over him and Peyton did have a better year points wise

not to mention Vick was very close in points and missed alot more games

sorry pappy... u still didn't justify going BRady over Peyton
</p>


Check the draft. There were a lot more than two QB's off the board Matt.</p>

http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2010/238030/draftresults

i did and only breez and rodgers were taken before him

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 01:14 PM
NO MORE FLEX

There will be a vote but good try Dictator Bud...


i didn't proclaim it, i said it needs to change

My bad, it looked like a proclamation to me. I missed you...

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:14 PM
OK I checked and your right. i took Brady as the 3rd QB but his performance was great. Pretty sure he outperformed every QB except maybe Rivers.

define performance

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:15 PM
NO MORE FLEX

There will be a vote but good try Dictator Bud...


i didn't proclaim it, i said it needs to change

My bad, it looked like a proclamation to me. I missed you...


ditto

they are gonna block it again once they see how much u use this website lololol

byron
06-22-2011, 01:15 PM
It feels like I never left. lol

you add to this thread landon good to have you back</P>


</P>


http://images.buddytv.com/articles/Image/flavor-flav-roast.jpg</P>

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 01:16 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</P>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</P>

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 01:16 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 01:18 PM
"jeter will remain leadoff upon return" i ****ing hate girdardi. HATE HIM. dumb as dog ****.
</P>


says the guy who loves jorge posada....lol</P>


someone hasnt been watching......hes turned it around.


yea but u loved him behind the plate... even with Cervelli and Martin out he wasn't getting playing time lol
again girardis a fool. hes serviceable. if veritek can do it so can jorge
</P>


you disgust me!!

I dont even know why I like you!!!</P>


lol</P>

ny06
06-22-2011, 01:19 PM
i took Brady as the 3rd QB but his performance was great.</P>


http://i52.tinypic.com/vompvm.jpg</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:19 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>

eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:19 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</P>


That would be two players.</P>


HAHAHA!!!!</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:20 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:21 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</P>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</P>

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 01:21 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.
</P>


I just dont think relying on one position is a good fantasy format. so unless the QB points are lowered, I dont think I'd have any interest.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:22 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</p>


That would be two players.</p>


HAHAHA!!!!</p>

lol well that brings up the next point, who was in the league last year?

Me
Pappy
Lando
Blondie
Pizz
Byron
Daven
Bandy
S&amp;A
Dezz
Kase

i am missing one...

are we officially booting Kase or Dezz?

Is bandy back?

Will Pizz accept the league for whatever it turns out to be

ALL OF THIS AND MORE - AS THE FANTASY WORLD TURNS

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:23 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</p>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</p>

me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:24 PM
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Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:25 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</P>


That would be two players.</P>


HAHAHA!!!!</P>




lol well that brings up the next point, who was in the league last year?

Me
Pappy
Lando
Blondie
Pizz
Byron
Daven
Bandy
S&amp;A
Dezz
Kase

i am missing one...

are we officially booting Kase or Dezz?

Is bandy back?

Will Pizz accept the league for whatever it turns out to be

ALL OF THIS AND MORE - AS THE FANTASY WORLD TURNS
</P>


Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</P>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</P>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:25 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.
</p>


I just dont think relying on one position is a good fantasy format. so unless the QB points are lowered, I dont think I'd have any interest.</p>

yea i'm not a fan of that either... im more of a standard fantasy player

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:26 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</P>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</P>




me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan



</P>


One week you failed to start a kicker in BOTH leagues at the same time.</P>


Meyerbud.......OUT!!!</P>

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:26 PM
What time is it in Sin City right now? 2-3 hour diff? 8:20?

I actually live in SLC, UT. Land of the Mormons. 2 hour diff.


Beautiful country there. I have one concern. Are there a lot of rattlesnakes?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8gzLaFCT6y5EheGoQowHEbp2vH27tL AWWBs5TcCA5R4at-vnznQ

That is Southern Utah, down closer to Vegas. I live at the top of the state where it's cold and miserable. lol
Huh. Now tell me ? Is Matt's timeshare in ski country or sin country?

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:27 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</p>


That would be two players.</p>


HAHAHA!!!!</p>




lol well that brings up the next point, who was in the league last year?

Me
Pappy
Lando
Blondie
Pizz
Byron
Daven
Bandy
S&amp;A
Dezz
Kase

i am missing one...

are we officially booting Kase or Dezz?

Is bandy back?

Will Pizz accept the league for whatever it turns out to be

ALL OF THIS AND MORE - AS THE FANTASY WORLD TURNS
</p>


Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</p>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</p>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</p>

no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:27 PM
What time is it in Sin City right now? 2-3 hour diff? 8:20?

I actually live in SLC, UT. Land of the Mormons. 2 hour diff.


Beautiful country there. I have one concern. Are there a lot of rattlesnakes?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8gzLaFCT6y5EheGoQowHEbp2vH27tL AWWBs5TcCA5R4at-vnznQ

That is Southern Utah, down closer to Vegas. I live at the top of the state where it's cold and miserable. lol
Huh. Now tell me ? Is Matt's timeshare in ski country or sin country?


absolute sin country lol

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:28 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</p>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</p>




me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan



</p>


One week you failed to start a kicker in BOTH leagues at the same time.</p>


Meyerbud.......OUT!!!</p>

lol i'd want me out if i were u too old man....

two different league, two diff mulligans

im good to go

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 01:28 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</P>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</P>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</P>


yes and no...</P>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</P>

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:28 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</P>


That would be two players.</P>


HAHAHA!!!!</P>




lol well that brings up the next point, who was in the league last year?

Me
Pappy
Lando
Blondie
Pizz
Byron
Daven
Bandy
S&amp;A
Dezz
Kase

i am missing one...

are we officially booting Kase or Dezz?

Is bandy back?

Will Pizz accept the league for whatever it turns out to be

ALL OF THIS AND MORE - AS THE FANTASY WORLD TURNS
</P>


Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</P>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</P>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</P>




no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well
</P>


Well Sherrif for sure, since he won the B league last year. Lawl is out since he knocked my B league team just before I killed him and went on a tear.</P>

DavenIII
06-22-2011, 01:29 PM
Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</p>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</p>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</p>

if Dez was just bad it'd be one thing, but he simply stops caring like halfway through the season....doesn't check his bye weeks or injuries etc etc....ends up giving away free wins which ruins the league for everyone else.

byron
06-22-2011, 01:29 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.
hey Dezz saw your post from this morning Bud is to closely related to all but two of our dogs not good to inbred ...As far as the question oncancer to unspayed or neuteredmale dogshave a look at this</P>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutering</P>


Its looks like to the males are better of being left alone females is another matter</P>

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:30 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</p>


That would be two players.</p>


HAHAHA!!!!</p>




lol well that brings up the next point, who was in the league last year?

Me
Pappy
Lando
Blondie
Pizz
Byron
Daven
Bandy
S&amp;A
Dezz
Kase

i am missing one...

are we officially booting Kase or Dezz?

Is bandy back?

Will Pizz accept the league for whatever it turns out to be

ALL OF THIS AND MORE - AS THE FANTASY WORLD TURNS
</p>


Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</p>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</p>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</p>Invitation accepted

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:30 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</P>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</P>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</P>


yes and no...</P>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</P>


</P>


As I said last year, I like reducing the TD pass points for a QB to 4. Right now the QB is far too important. I also would like getting rid of the flex and going with 3 WR's. Other than that, I like our format.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:31 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>

thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 01:31 PM
NO MORE FLEX

There will be a vote but good try Dictator Bud...


i didn't proclaim it, i said it needs to change

My bad, it looked like a proclamation to me. I missed you...


ditto

they are gonna block it again once they see how much u use this website lololol

I already thought that to...lol

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:32 PM
Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</P>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</P>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</P>




if Dez was just bad it'd be one thing, but he simply stops caring like halfway through the season....doesn't check his bye weeks or injuries etc etc....ends up giving away free wins which ruins the league for everyone else.
</P>


And then gets defensive when we call him on it.</P>


He does have a lot on his mind............with all the killing and all.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:32 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>


</p>


As I said last year, I like reducing the TD pass points for a QB to 4. Right now the QB is far too important. I also would like getting rid of the flex and going with 3 WR's. Other than that, I like our format.</p>

i couldn't disagree more...

by taking value out of the QBs ur making this an ALL RB draft. By having the flex the power is in RBs as it is, be de-valuing QBs, it would just put more of a spotlight of trying to get 3 RBs with the first 3 rounds

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:32 PM
What time is it in Sin City right now? 2-3 hour diff? 8:20?

I actually live in SLC, UT. Land of the Mormons. 2 hour diff.


Beautiful country there. I have one concern. Are there a lot of rattlesnakes?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8gzLaFCT6y5EheGoQowHEbp2vH27tL AWWBs5TcCA5R4at-vnznQ

That is Southern Utah, down closer to Vegas. I live at the top of the state where it's cold and miserable. lol
Huh. Now tell me ? Is Matt's timeshare in ski country or sin country?


absolute sin country lol
I've been itching to get to Vegas. We gotta talk.

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:33 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</p>


That would be two players.</p>


HAHAHA!!!!</p>




lol well that brings up the next point, who was in the league last year?

Me
Pappy
Lando
Blondie
Pizz
Byron
Daven
Bandy
S&amp;A
Dezz
Kase

i am missing one...

are we officially booting Kase or Dezz?

Is bandy back?

Will Pizz accept the league for whatever it turns out to be

ALL OF THIS AND MORE - AS THE FANTASY WORLD TURNS
</p>


Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</p>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</p>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</p>Invitation accepted


lo lwe gotta see first

we started a second league last year so that othyer guys that have been annoying us would join up

u may have to play a season in the minors son lol

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:33 PM
Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</p>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</p>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</p>




if Dez was just bad it'd be one thing, but he simply stops caring like halfway through the season....doesn't check his bye weeks or injuries etc etc....ends up giving away free wins which ruins the league for everyone else.
</p>


And then gets defensive when we call him on it.</p>


He does have a lot on his mind............with all the killing and all.</p>Lol, got to keep those priorities in order.

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 01:35 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</P>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</P>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</P>


yes and no...</P>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</P>


</P>


As I said last year, I like reducing the TD pass points for a QB to 4. Right now the QB is far too important. I also would like getting rid of the flex and going with 3 WR's. Other than that, I like our format.</P>




i couldn't disagree more...

by taking value out of the QBs ur making this an ALL RB draft. By having the flex the power is in RBs as it is, be de-valuing QBs, it would just put more of a spotlight of trying to get 3 RBs with the first 3 rounds
</P>


Please note that I said we should get rid of the flex and go with 3 WR's. It just seems the guy with the big few QB's have a huge advantage.</P>

ny06
06-22-2011, 01:36 PM
http://www.steelersdepot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/super-troy-leap-browns.avi.gif

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:37 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</p>


That would be two players.</p>


HAHAHA!!!!</p>




lol well that brings up the next point, who was in the league last year?

Me
Pappy
Lando
Blondie
Pizz
Byron
Daven
Bandy
S&amp;A
Dezz
Kase

i am missing one...

are we officially booting Kase or Dezz?

Is bandy back?

Will Pizz accept the league for whatever it turns out to be

ALL OF THIS AND MORE - AS THE FANTASY WORLD TURNS
</p>


Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</p>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</p>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</p>Invitation accepted


lo lwe gotta see first

we started a second league last year so that othyer guys that have been annoying us would join up

u may have to play a season in the minors son lol
If that's the case, I can deal....That's just more time to refine my skills all that much more to kick your *** in the 2012 season.

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:40 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>


</p>


As I said last year, I like reducing the TD pass points for a QB to 4. Right now the QB is far too important. I also would like getting rid of the flex and going with 3 WR's. Other than that, I like our format.</p>




i couldn't disagree more...

by taking value out of the QBs ur making this an ALL RB draft. By having the flex the power is in RBs as it is, be de-valuing QBs, it would just put more of a spotlight of trying to get 3 RBs with the first 3 rounds
</p>


Please note that I said we should get rid of the flex and go with 3 WR's. It just seems the guy with the big few QB's have a huge advantage.</p>


eh i guess.. .i would rather make a smaller difference though. like 1 point for every 25 yards though

keep TDs true

didn't we do bonuses last year too? Those are stupid

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:41 PM
What time is it in Sin City right now? 2-3 hour diff? 8:20?

I actually live in SLC, UT. Land of the Mormons. 2 hour diff.


Beautiful country there. I have one concern. Are there a lot of rattlesnakes?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8gzLaFCT6y5EheGoQowHEbp2vH27tL AWWBs5TcCA5R4at-vnznQ

That is Southern Utah, down closer to Vegas. I live at the top of the state where it's cold and miserable. lol
Huh. Now tell me ? Is Matt's timeshare in ski country or sin country?


absolute sin country lol
I've been itching to get to Vegas. We gotta talk.


lol mind u i am there with my girlfriend

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 01:43 PM
Garcia throwing good today so far

im like 700 posts away from Harooni

with daven and lando back

i should be there in a week

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:45 PM
What time is it in Sin City right now? 2-3 hour diff? 8:20?

I actually live in SLC, UT. Land of the Mormons. 2 hour diff.


Beautiful country there. I have one concern. Are there a lot of rattlesnakes?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8gzLaFCT6y5EheGoQowHEbp2vH27tL AWWBs5TcCA5R4at-vnznQ

That is Southern Utah, down closer to Vegas. I live at the top of the state where it's cold and miserable. lol
Huh. Now tell me ? Is Matt's timeshare in ski country or sin country?


absolute sin country lol
I've been itching to get to Vegas. We gotta talk.


lol mind u i am there with my girlfriend
Of course, Lol. I mentioned my proposed Vegas scheme to my wife the other nite. She is not all that interested in that trip. Now --it troubles me so that I may have to go by myself, but if those are the circumstances, what will be will be. Let's send my wife and Amanda somewhere for a girls getaway. That works for me. And MH needs to go to this one.

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 01:51 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</P>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</P>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</P>


yes and no...</P>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</P>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</P>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</P>

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:57 PM
Garcia throwing good today so far

im like 700 posts away from Harooni

with daven and lando back

i should be there in a week
"The wolf on top of the mountain is not as hungry as the wolf climbing the mountain, but when he want's the food, it's there" Go get it Matt.

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 01:58 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</p>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</p>You were in the $ last year, correct?

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:00 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</p>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</p>

haha i know me and u always go at it, no input

but i just realized something kinda ridic...

U think we should have only 5 backups, but we had only 7. I think 6 would be a perfect number for that.

and just so u know of some big names that were drafted in the 15th and 16th round: Marcades Lewis, Nate Burleson, both Mike Williams, Davone Bess, James Jones. And the last 4 i mentioned were all in the last round. I just really would have the fact of the idea that either Mike Jones would of been free agents

BUT thats also why the keeper rules that im proposing u should like because it would refrain people from just cutting players. They will hold out on them longer. For instance i drafted TB Mike Williams in the last round, i would of kept him for an 8th rounder this year... Hes probably going to be like a 4th-5th rounder

BUT ur more likely to stick it out with a player instead of play the FA game. There would be quality moves instead of quantity - for the most part

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:01 PM
and I disagree about a heavy emphasis should be on the FA wire. I hate the fact that if somebody is a bust or sucks and u dont' have the depth in place already that you can just go to the free agent wire and get Mike Williams...

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 02:04 PM
You were in the $ last year, correct?
</P>


Yea I lost in the finals, but the payouts are good for our league.</P>

byron
06-22-2011, 02:05 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</P>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</P>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</P>


yes and no...</P>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</P>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</P>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</P>well I won't butt in to much here caause I'm not all that good at the game but I get what Pizz is saying 8 player bench takes 96 players out of play and they are not all **** players...but you can make trades and what not...which is all part of the game ....including hording a player to keep another team from getting better... no?I love playing and want to see all the guys here play so lets get this ffba settled

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 02:09 PM
and I disagree about a heavy emphasis should be on the FA wire. I hate the fact that if somebody is a bust or sucks and u dont' have the depth in place already that you can just go to the free agent wire and get Mike Williams...
Is there a website with your last years rules that I can check out? Who's in the B league? Does that mean I only get usfl player's?

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:11 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</p>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</p>well I won't butt in to much here caause I'm not all that good at the game but I get what Pizz is saying 8 player bench takes 96 players out of play and they are not all **** players...but you can make trades and what not...which is all part of the game ....including hording a player to keep another team from getting better... no?I love playing and want to see all the guys here play so lets get this ffba settled

I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 02:18 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</p>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</p>




me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan



</p>


One week you failed to start a kicker in BOTH leagues at the same time.</p>


Meyerbud.......OUT!!!</p>not so fun when the fingers pointed at you is it *****?! haha

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:19 PM
and I disagree about a heavy emphasis should be on the FA wire. I hate the fact that if somebody is a bust or sucks and u dont' have the depth in place already that you can just go to the free agent wire and get Mike Williams...
Is there a website with your last years rules that I can check out? Who's in the B league? Does that mean I only get usfl player's?


na not really...

its simple...

You can only keep players drafted in the 8th round or later and only for a max of Two years and only two players a year. And they will cost u half the round u drafted them at

Example: Say I drafted MIKE WILLIAMS in the 15th round last year. I would get to keep him for a 7th rounder (on odd rounds u round down) this year. Say I want to keep him again next year - it would cost me a third rounder and this would be his last year of keeper eligibility.

For a player to be considered a keeper, they need to be a drafted player of the 8th or later rounds and need to stay on a roster for the whole year. If they are released they lose their keeper eligbility. If they were picked up off of the FA wire, they are not keeper eligible.

Keepers can be traded and they will keep their eligbility. Infact this also makes the end of the year more interesting. A team thats out of it, may try and make trades for next year. Also why a late trade deadline should be established..

The reason I like it so much because it not only adds a little spice to the league, but it also addresses pizz's concert of an abusive FA wire. Plus you get rewarded for good late picks you have and it doesn't effect the most fun part of the draft which is the first few rounds

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:20 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</p>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</p>




me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan



</p>


One week you failed to start a kicker in BOTH leagues at the same time.</p>


Meyerbud.......OUT!!!</p>not so fun when the fingers pointed at you is it *****?! haha


lol making a mistake one week and neglecting ur team for most of the season is completeeeeeeeeeely diffreent

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 02:20 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</P>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</P>




me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan



</P>


One week you failed to start a kicker in BOTH leagues at the same time.</P>


Meyerbud.......OUT!!!</P>


not so fun when the fingers pointed at you is it *****?! haha
</P>


Dezz. You just didn't try to compete. Its fine but to admit it and move on is probably the best course of action.</P>

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 02:21 PM
and I disagree about a heavy emphasis should be on the FA wire. I hate the fact that if somebody is a bust or sucks and u dont' have the depth in place already that you can just go to the free agent wire and get Mike Williams...
Is there a website with your last years rules that I can check out? Who's in the B league? Does that mean I only get usfl player's?


na not really...

its simple...

You can only keep players drafted in the 8th round or later and only for a max of Two years and only two players a year. And they will cost u half the round u drafted them at

Example: Say I drafted MIKE WILLIAMS in the 15th round last year. I would get to keep him for a 7th rounder (on odd rounds u round down) this year. Say I want to keep him again next year - it would cost me a third rounder and this would be his last year of keeper eligibility.

For a player to be considered a keeper, they need to be a drafted player of the 8th or later rounds and need to stay on a roster for the whole year. If they are released they lose their keeper eligbility. If they were picked up off of the FA wire, they are not keeper eligible.

Keepers can be traded and they will keep their eligbility. Infact this also makes the end of the year more interesting. A team thats out of it, may try and make trades for next year. Also why a late trade deadline should be established..

The reason I like it so much because it not only adds a little spice to the league, but it also addresses pizz's concert of an abusive FA wire. Plus you get rewarded for good late picks you have and it doesn't effect the most fun part of the draft which is the first few rounds
</P>


I have to say it feels like we have one too many roster spots. Lots of hoarding of players.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:23 PM
and I disagree about a heavy emphasis should be on the FA wire. I hate the fact that if somebody is a bust or sucks and u dont' have the depth in place already that you can just go to the free agent wire and get Mike Williams...
Is there a website with your last years rules that I can check out? Who's in the B league? Does that mean I only get usfl player's?


na not really...

its simple...

You can only keep players drafted in the 8th round or later and only for a max of Two years and only two players a year. And they will cost u half the round u drafted them at

Example: Say I drafted MIKE WILLIAMS in the 15th round last year. I would get to keep him for a 7th rounder (on odd rounds u round down) this year. Say I want to keep him again next year - it would cost me a third rounder and this would be his last year of keeper eligibility.

For a player to be considered a keeper, they need to be a drafted player of the 8th or later rounds and need to stay on a roster for the whole year. If they are released they lose their keeper eligbility. If they were picked up off of the FA wire, they are not keeper eligible.

Keepers can be traded and they will keep their eligbility. Infact this also makes the end of the year more interesting. A team thats out of it, may try and make trades for next year. Also why a late trade deadline should be established..

The reason I like it so much because it not only adds a little spice to the league, but it also addresses pizz's concert of an abusive FA wire. Plus you get rewarded for good late picks you have and it doesn't effect the most fun part of the draft which is the first few rounds
</p>


I have to say it feels like we have one too many roster spots. Lots of hoarding of players.</p>

well we'll def vote on it, but I'd rather have players hoarded than have a FA wire full of guys that can be plugged into start

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 02:23 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.
hey Dezz saw your post from this morning Bud is to closely related to all but two of our dogs not good to inbred ...As far as the question oncancer to unspayed or neuteredmale dogshave a look at this</p>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutering</p>


Its looks like to the males are better of being left alone females is another matter</p>thanks alot b. good read. tucks 100% pure breed so if you ever want to make babies let me know. lol. black an yellow, black an yellow. haha

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 02:24 PM
I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important
</P>


I dont even know how you can think like that. OF COURSE your draft is important. But there are guys to be picked up week by week by those who want to take the risk. After the first week, your draft means absolutely d1ck.
It's BS if you just HAPPEN to own Danny Woodhead or someone who randomly goes off.

I'm trying to think of other examples, but I have a terrible memory.

I'm sorry, I just cant understand why someone would think that having a thin FA pool is awesome. That's so ridiculous. Simply stated, it makes dropping players unimportant.
Devery Henderson goes off for 3 scores, and is for some reason unowned, you should really be stressing which of your guys to drop.
Last year for me isa decentexample. There's a guy I want to get. I lost Ryan Grant in week 1, so i jumped on Brandon Jackson, who didnt really do much all year, but when another RB came along that was available after a first stringer goes down, I should HAVE TO be thinking "hmm...is it worth the risk dropping jackson for this guy? I dont know what either are going to do..."
Instead....I end up going to the players screen, and saying..."who the **** are these guys? They dont even have any stats yet..."</P>


just doesnt make sense man...</P>

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 02:25 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.
hey Dezz saw your post from this morning Bud is to closely related to all but two of our dogs not good to inbred ...As far as the question oncancer to unspayed or neuteredmale dogshave a look at this</P>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutering</P>


Its looks like to the males are better of being left alone females is another matter</P>


thanks alot b. good read. tucks 100% pure breed so if you ever want to make babies let me know. lol. black an yellow, black an yellow. haha
</P>


Its a good thing we know what you're talking about Dezz.</P>

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 02:26 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</p>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</p>




me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan



</p>


One week you failed to start a kicker in BOTH leagues at the same time.</p>


Meyerbud.......OUT!!!</p>


not so fun when the fingers pointed at you is it *****?! haha
</p>


Dezz. You just didn't try to compete. Its fine but to admit it and move on is probably the best course of action.</p>i started like 1-5 and a bunch of my guys got injured. iv moved on, believe me. haha

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:27 PM
I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important
</p>


I dont even know how you can think like that. OF COURSE your draft is important. But there are guys to be picked up week by week by those who want to take the risk. After the first week, your draft means absolutely d1ck.
It's BS if you just HAPPEN to own Danny Woodhead or someone who randomly goes off.

I'm trying to think of other examples, but I have a terrible memory.

I'm sorry, I just cant understand why someone would think that having a thin FA pool is awesome. That's so ridiculous. Simply stated, it makes dropping players unimportant.
Devery Henderson goes off for 3 scores, and is for some reason unowned, you should really be stressing which of your guys to drop.
Last year for me isa decentexample. There's a guy I want to get. I lost Ryan Grant in week 1, so i jumped on Brandon Jackson, who didnt really do much all year, but when another RB came along that was available after a first stringer goes down, I should HAVE TO be thinking "hmm...is it worth the risk dropping jackson for this guy? I dont know what either are going to do..."
Instead....I end up going to the players screen, and saying..."who the **** are these guys? They dont even have any stats yet..."</p>


just doesnt make sense man...</p>

well not for nothing, thats your fault for not utilizing your backup RBs the right way. With a long bench you have no excuse. Who were your backups at RB?

It sounds like u **** the bed rather than the system.

If your making this argument for the later weeks of the season i'd understand more, but to say that once u lost Grant that u had to pick a guy off the waivers to replace him sounds like u ****ed up

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 02:30 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</P>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</P>




me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan



</P>


One week you failed to start a kicker in BOTH leagues at the same time.</P>


Meyerbud.......OUT!!!</P>


not so fun when the fingers pointed at you is it *****?! haha
</P>


Dezz. You just didn't try to compete. Its fine but to admit it and move on is probably the best course of action.</P>


i started like 1-5 and a bunch of my guys got injured. iv moved on, believe me. haha
</P>


I started 1 and 6 in the B league and kept fighting. I won my next 5 and got back to 6-6. If Rivers hadn't have crapped the bed for me week 13 I would have made the playoffs.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:30 PM
HIP HIP!

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 02:31 PM
I have to say it feels like we have one too many roster spots. Lots of hoarding of players.</P>


</P>


I thank you for contributing to this conversation. it's nice to know someone actually gives a **** lol</P>

byron
06-22-2011, 02:32 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</P>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</P>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</P>


yes and no...</P>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</P>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</P>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</P>well I won't butt in to much here caause I'm not all that good at the game but I get what Pizz is saying 8 player bench takes 96 players out of play and they are not all **** players...but you can make trades and what not...which is all part of the game ....including hording a player to keep another team from getting better... no?I love playing and want to see all the guys here play so lets get this ffba settled

I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important
i agree that the draft is the most important part ..all the other angles of the game... play a big part to... trading , matchups, watching the wire ,bye weeks ,injury's I may be leaving something out...there is quite a lot to the game ...I guess that rule changes opens up different angles and one adjusts ...which is what i will do best I can becauseI love playing. I go with what you all decide...

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 02:32 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.
hey Dezz saw your post from this morning Bud is to closely related to all but two of our dogs not good to inbred ...As far as the question oncancer to unspayed or neuteredmale dogshave a look at this</p>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutering</p>


Its looks like to the males are better of being left alone females is another matter</p>


thanks alot b. good read. tucks 100% pure breed so if you ever want to make babies let me know. lol. black an yellow, black an yellow. haha
</p>


Its a good thing we know what you're talking about Dezz.</p>youd adopt one of my seeds. dont lie.

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 02:33 PM
HIP HIP!
</P>


I get it. Posada just hit a HR.</P>

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 02:34 PM
HIP HIP!
did he hit a hr?

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 02:36 PM
HIP HIP!
</p>


I get it. Posada just hit a HR.</p>mhs oozing with envy. "why cant my catchers hit homeruns?!" cause theyre gaaaaaaabage!

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:36 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</p>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</p>well I won't butt in to much here caause I'm not all that good at the game but I get what Pizz is saying 8 player bench takes 96 players out of play and they are not all **** players...but you can make trades and what not...which is all part of the game ....including hording a player to keep another team from getting better... no?I love playing and want to see all the guys here play so lets get this ffba settled

I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important
i agree that the draft is the most important part ..all the other angles of the game... play a big part to... trading , matchups, watching the wire ,bye weeks ,injury's I may be leaving something out...there is quite a lot to the game ...I guess that rule changes opens up different angles and one adjusts ...which is what i will do best I can becauseI love playing. I go with what you all decide...

no more indecisiou from u BIGB! lol

when its voting time ur putting ur two cents in this year

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:37 PM
HIP HIP!
did he hit a hr?


yessa

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 02:38 PM
well not for nothing, thats your fault for not utilizing your backup RBs the right way. With a long bench you have no excuse. Who were your backups at RB?

It sounds like u **** the bed rather than the system.

If your making this argument for the later weeks of the season i'd understand more, but to say that once u lost Grant that u had to pick a guy off the waivers to replace him sounds like u ****ed up
</P>


what??!?
Umm...it's a totally feasible argument. As per the standard FF format. FAs are locked into waivers from Sunday 1pm, until Tuesday morning. So I HAD to use my very first waiver priority on a RB after Grant got injured week 1.
I dont even remember who my other RBs were off the top of my head. I remember drafting Cadillac for flex...but i know he wasnt someone I kept on my roster as a starter or anything.
It came down to me (and everyone else for that matter) putting in their claims on whoever the hot commodity was that weekend in hopes that they snagged them...whether they needed them or not, it just made sense to TRY to get them.
THIS IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF PLAYER HOARDING IN FANTASY FOOTBALL.</P>


**** having more than 5 bench spots. in a 12 man league you shouldnt even GET 5....
</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:41 PM
well not for nothing, thats your fault for not utilizing your backup RBs the right way. With a long bench you have no excuse. Who were your backups at RB?

It sounds like u **** the bed rather than the system.

If your making this argument for the later weeks of the season i'd understand more, but to say that once u lost Grant that u had to pick a guy off the waivers to replace him sounds like u ****ed up
</p>


what??!?
Umm...it's a totally feasible argument. As per the standard FF format. FAs are locked into waivers from Sunday 1pm, until Tuesday morning. So I HAD to use my very first waiver priority on a RB after Grant got injured week 1.
I dont even remember who my other RBs were off the top of my head. I remember drafting Cadillac for flex...but i know he wasnt someone I kept on my roster as a starter or anything.
It came down to me (and everyone else for that matter) putting in their claims on whoever the hot commodity was that weekend in hopes that they snagged them...whether they needed them or not, it just made sense to TRY to get them.
THIS IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF PLAYER HOARDING IN FANTASY FOOTBALL.</p>


**** having more than 5 bench spots. in a 12 man league you shouldnt even GET 5....
</p>

no the point is ur complaining about hoarding, but u had the space and didn't have a legit backup for ur RB after week 1...

To suggest that somebody picking up a FA that is now the #1 RB on a team after an injury as hoarding, is just misusing the definition.

Two glaring issues, u shouldn't of been relying on the waiver wire for a started by week 2 with just one injury at aposition

and with these big rosters, why did u not have a handcuff?

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 02:44 PM
HIP HIP!
</P>


I get it. Posada just hit a HR.</P>


mhs oozing with envy. "why cant my catchers hit homeruns?!" cause theyre gaaaaaaabage!
</P>


Your catchers have 10 and our catchers have 8.</P>


Is that a big difference to you?</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 02:47 PM
whether or not i am right or wrong

Pizz, i think ur general outlook on fantasy is offbase. The draft means everything the whole year. For you to say the later round picks dont mean nothing is a falsehood, that is typically where its all won. Those are the diamonds in the rough that win it for you and give u the trade bait to improve your team

by making the FA pool bigger u just give teams a bigger bench I feel like since they will always have somebody to pick up out there. When u make the temas bigger, there isn't that luxory of just knowing you'll be able to get quality on the the FA so you better draft right, maintain ur team right, and who is on your team completely matters.

It totally defeats your point that the later rounds don't matter

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 02:50 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</p>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</p>
<font size="6">MOATED</font>

byron
06-22-2011, 02:50 PM
well not for nothing, thats your fault for not utilizing your backup RBs the right way. With a long bench you have no excuse. Who were your backups at RB?

It sounds like u **** the bed rather than the system.

If your making this argument for the later weeks of the season i'd understand more, but to say that once u lost Grant that u had to pick a guy off the waivers to replace him sounds like u ****ed up
</P>


what??!?
Umm...it's a totally feasible argument. As per the standard FF format. FAs are locked into waivers from Sunday 1pm, until Tuesday morning. So I HAD to use my very first waiver priority on a RB after Grant got injured week 1.
I dont even remember who my other RBs were off the top of my head. I remember drafting Cadillac for flex...but i know he wasnt someone I kept on my roster as a starter or anything.
It came down to me (and everyone else for that matter) putting in their claims on whoever the hot commodity was that weekend in hopes that they snagged them...whether they needed them or not, it just made sense to TRY to get them.
THIS IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF PLAYER HOARDING IN FANTASY FOOTBALL.</P>


**** having more than 5 bench spots. in a 12 man league you shouldnt even GET 5....
</P>


</P>


Jp i'm not taking one side or the other here it just seens to methat the leauge rules just change the way you have to playin a given leauge ..i get what your sayingless bench.. higher value players on your team thusmore throught would have to go into droping a player for fill ...the other angle is more bench more throught has to go into picking those players in the draft...don't kill me man just thinking out load ...</P>

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 02:51 PM
I say anyone who left spots vacant last year in games should not be eligible to play this year.</p>


That would be two players.</p>


HAHAHA!!!!</p>

lol well that brings up the next point, who was in the league last year?

Me
Pappy
Lando
Blondie
Pizz
Byron
Daven
Bandy
S&amp;A
Dezz
Kase

i am missing one...

are we officially booting Kase or Dezz?

Is bandy back?

Will Pizz accept the league for whatever it turns out to be

ALL OF THIS AND MORE - AS THE FANTASY WORLD TURNS

I love it. Bandy I think is out. Sadly...

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 02:52 PM
HIP HIP!
</p>


I get it. Posada just hit a HR.</p>


mhs oozing with envy. "why cant my catchers hit homeruns?!" cause theyre gaaaaaaabage!
</p>


Your catchers have 10 and our catchers have 8.</p>


Is that a big difference to you?</p>id like to know where you get your stats from. posada 6, martin 9 and cervelli has a grandslam.

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 02:53 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</p>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</p>

me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan




You did it more than once. You would have beat Morehead one week if you played a kicker. It was unacceptable. That being said I may not have won the league had you beat MH that week so thanks man!

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 02:54 PM
Forum is poppin today [Y]

[&lt;:o)]

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 02:54 PM
Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.
My name is Landon Irwin and I approve this message!!!

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 02:57 PM
What time is it in Sin City right now? 2-3 hour diff? 8:20?

I actually live in SLC, UT. Land of the Mormons. 2 hour diff.


Beautiful country there. I have one concern. Are there a lot of rattlesnakes?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8gzLaFCT6y5EheGoQowHEbp2vH27tL AWWBs5TcCA5R4at-vnznQ

That is Southern Utah, down closer to Vegas. I live at the top of the state where it's cold and miserable. lol
Huh. Now tell me ? Is Matt's timeshare in ski country or sin country?

Sin Country. 6 hour drive from Salt Lake City. 2 hour drive from Southern Utah.

byron
06-22-2011, 02:57 PM
with all this ff talk...dysfunction is setting back in I should be working...lol

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 02:59 PM
no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

I totally agree. Sharick is automatically in because he won the A league. Lawl should have got in last year but we gave his spot to Shockey Show. He sucked by the way...lol People need to get demoted to the B league if we have won. lol

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:00 PM
Well Sherrif for sure, since he won the B league last year. Lawl is out since he knocked my B league team just before I killed him and went on a tear.
You were in classic tantrum mode for weeks on that one. LOL!!!

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:01 PM
Dezz needs to be out. He's a disgrace. Not because he's a serial killer, but because he is the worst FF player of all time.</p>


I don't think Bandy will play because Canadians don't like to get yelled at. (Shocks is the exception)</p>


We need to invite LT and NY06.</p>

if Dez was just bad it'd be one thing, but he simply stops caring like halfway through the season....doesn't check his bye weeks or injuries etc etc....ends up giving away free wins which ruins the league for everyone else.

My name is Landon Irwin. I approve this message as well....

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 03:05 PM
robertsons a stud

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:07 PM
You were in the $ last year, correct?
</p>


Yea I lost in the finals, but the payouts are good for our league.</p>
You were awesome last year man...Seriously! But you already know this.

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 03:09 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</p>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</p>

me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan




You did it more than once. You would have beat Morehead one week if you played a kicker. It was unacceptable. That being said I may not have won the league had you beat MH that week so thanks man!


karma works in mysterious ways

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 03:10 PM
no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

I totally agree. Sharick is automatically in because he won the A league. Lawl should have got in last year but we gave his spot to Shockey Show. He sucked by the way...lol People need to get demoted to the B league if we have won. lol


so we have three openings this year

Dezz is out, Shockey is out, and bandy is out

Sharick - lawl - ny06 get first invites... LT is first on deck

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:11 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</p>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</p>well I won't butt in to much here caause I'm not all that good at the game but I get what Pizz is saying 8 player bench takes 96 players out of play and they are not all **** players...but you can make trades and what not...which is all part of the game ....including hording a player to keep another team from getting better... no?I love playing and want to see all the guys here play so lets get this ffba settled

I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important

I totally agree with you Matt. I like the big bench. Trades, injuries, strategy, insurance or you take a waiver on a guy in hopes he will tear it up one day. Chris Ivory for instance last year.

However, I hate the idea of the keeper league. No way we have the same 12 people next year. Plus I like getting a whole new team every year.

I am down to drop the flex as well if need be. 3 WR's and 2 RB's does put less importance on RB and the extra depth on the bench would help in that format as well.

The one other thing that needs to be changed is defensive points. When a D would get a shutout it would only give 10 points. I think that should be changed to 15 or 20 honestly. It rarely happens.

I also hate individual defensive players. **** that! Only Defense yo

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 03:12 PM
supposedly tikis getting butt raped on fat mike. dammit!! anyone listening?

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:17 PM
I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important
</p>


I dont even know how you can think like that. OF COURSE your draft is important. But there are guys to be picked up week by week by those who want to take the risk. After the first week, your draft means absolutely d1ck.
It's BS if you just HAPPEN to own Danny Woodhead or someone who randomly goes off.

I'm trying to think of other examples, but I have a terrible memory.

I'm sorry, I just cant understand why someone would think that having a thin FA pool is awesome. That's so ridiculous. Simply stated, it makes dropping players unimportant.
Devery Henderson goes off for 3 scores, and is for some reason unowned, you should really be stressing which of your guys to drop.
Last year for me isa decentexample. There's a guy I want to get. I lost Ryan Grant in week 1, so i jumped on Brandon Jackson, who didnt really do much all year, but when another RB came along that was available after a first stringer goes down, I should HAVE TO be thinking "hmm...is it worth the risk dropping jackson for this guy? I dont know what either are going to do..."
Instead....I end up going to the players screen, and saying..."who the **** are these guys? They dont even have any stats yet..."</p>


just doesnt make sense man...</p>

well not for nothing, thats your fault for not utilizing your backup RBs the right way. With a long bench you have no excuse. Who were your backups at RB?

<font color="#0000FF" size="4">It sounds like u **** the bed rather than the system.</font>

If your making this argument for the later weeks of the season i'd understand more, but to say that once u lost Grant that u had to pick a guy off the waivers to replace him sounds like u ****ed up

This is the problem...

It is strategy to. If I am higher on the waiver wire, your guy goes down and I know you are going to take him. I am going to take him. It's not hoarding. It's the game. Just like with Westbrook last year when Gore went down. I didn't "need" him but I took him.

Plus it helps your overall depth. Especially without a flex. You are going to want the extra spots. Also we don't know how that is going to work so we don't want to go without a flex and shorten the bench. That could be a recipe for disaster....

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 03:19 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</p>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</p>well I won't butt in to much here caause I'm not all that good at the game but I get what Pizz is saying 8 player bench takes 96 players out of play and they are not all **** players...but you can make trades and what not...which is all part of the game ....including hording a player to keep another team from getting better... no?I love playing and want to see all the guys here play so lets get this ffba settled

I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important

I totally agree with you Matt. I like the big bench. Trades, injuries, strategy, insurance or you take a waiver on a guy in hopes he will tear it up one day. Chris Ivory for instance last year.

However, I hate the idea of the keeper league. No way we have the same 12 people next year. Plus I like getting a whole new team every year.

I am down to drop the flex as well if need be. 3 WR's and 2 RB's does put less importance on RB and the extra depth on the bench would help in that format as well.

The one other thing that needs to be changed is defensive points. When a D would get a shutout it would only give 10 points. I think that should be changed to 15 or 20 honestly. It rarely happens.

I also hate individual defensive players. **** that! Only Defense yo


I agree with everything except the keeper obviously. It doesn't matter if we have a few peices change every year. IT seems like we have a base 8 that will always be in it and then hopfully with these next few guys we add they stay longer. Like I dont see Sharick or ny bailing. Lawl may not do it but then we have LT who seems like hes a lifer

I am def into relooking defensive scoring as well. Somebody from my main league told me they added a couple of new cool features to team defense this year as well, i just forgot waht they were

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 03:19 PM
supposedly tikis getting butt raped on fat mike. dammit!! anyone listening?


na i could care less

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 03:22 PM
I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important
</p>


I dont even know how you can think like that. OF COURSE your draft is important. But there are guys to be picked up week by week by those who want to take the risk. After the first week, your draft means absolutely d1ck.
It's BS if you just HAPPEN to own Danny Woodhead or someone who randomly goes off.

I'm trying to think of other examples, but I have a terrible memory.

I'm sorry, I just cant understand why someone would think that having a thin FA pool is awesome. That's so ridiculous. Simply stated, it makes dropping players unimportant.
Devery Henderson goes off for 3 scores, and is for some reason unowned, you should really be stressing which of your guys to drop.
Last year for me isa decentexample. There's a guy I want to get. I lost Ryan Grant in week 1, so i jumped on Brandon Jackson, who didnt really do much all year, but when another RB came along that was available after a first stringer goes down, I should HAVE TO be thinking "hmm...is it worth the risk dropping jackson for this guy? I dont know what either are going to do..."
Instead....I end up going to the players screen, and saying..."who the **** are these guys? They dont even have any stats yet..."</p>


just doesnt make sense man...</p>

well not for nothing, thats your fault for not utilizing your backup RBs the right way. With a long bench you have no excuse. Who were your backups at RB?

<font color="#0000ff" size="4">It sounds like u **** the bed rather than the system.</font>

If your making this argument for the later weeks of the season i'd understand more, but to say that once u lost Grant that u had to pick a guy off the waivers to replace him sounds like u ****ed up

This is the problem...

It is strategy to. If I am higher on the waiver wire, your guy goes down and I know you are going to take him. I am going to take him. It's not hoarding. It's the game. Just like with Westbrook last year when Gore went down. I didn't "need" him but I took him.

Plus it helps your overall depth. Especially without a flex. You are going to want the extra spots. Also we don't know how that is going to work so we don't want to go without a flex and shorten the bench. That could be a recipe for disaster....



yea well he said that he would be okay with substituting the depth for the format change. I agree that the bigger bench for flex is dumb makes his argument alot stronger and I think I would even agree...

but if we do go to the 2 rb and 3 wr (THE STANDARD FORMAT) having the bench space we do is fine

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 03:22 PM
I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important
</p>


I dont even know how you can think like that. OF COURSE your draft is important. But there are guys to be picked up week by week by those who want to take the risk. After the first week, your draft means absolutely d1ck.
It's BS if you just HAPPEN to own Danny Woodhead or someone who randomly goes off.

I'm trying to think of other examples, but I have a terrible memory.

I'm sorry, I just cant understand why someone would think that having a thin FA pool is awesome. That's so ridiculous. Simply stated, it makes dropping players unimportant.
Devery Henderson goes off for 3 scores, and is for some reason unowned, you should really be stressing which of your guys to drop.
Last year for me isa decentexample. There's a guy I want to get. I lost Ryan Grant in week 1, so i jumped on Brandon Jackson, who didnt really do much all year, but when another RB came along that was available after a first stringer goes down, I should HAVE TO be thinking "hmm...is it worth the risk dropping jackson for this guy? I dont know what either are going to do..."
Instead....I end up going to the players screen, and saying..."who the **** are these guys? They dont even have any stats yet..."</p>


just doesnt make sense man...</p>

well not for nothing, thats your fault for not utilizing your backup RBs the right way. With a long bench you have no excuse. Who were your backups at RB?

<font color="#0000ff" size="4">It sounds like u **** the bed rather than the system.</font>

If your making this argument for the later weeks of the season i'd understand more, but to say that once u lost Grant that u had to pick a guy off the waivers to replace him sounds like u ****ed up

This is the problem...

It is strategy to. If I am higher on the waiver wire, your guy goes down and I know you are going to take him. I am going to take him. It's not hoarding. It's the game. Just like with Westbrook last year when Gore went down. I didn't "need" him but I took him.

Plus it helps your overall depth. Especially without a flex. You are going to want the extra spots. Also we don't know how that is going to work so we don't want to go without a flex and shorten the bench. That could be a recipe for disaster....



yea well he said that he would be okay with substituting the depth for the format change. I agree that the bigger bench for flex is dumb makes his argument alot stronger and I think I would even agree...

but if we do go to the 2 rb and 3 wr (THE STANDARD FORMAT) having the bench space we do is fine

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 03:23 PM
no the point is ur complaining about hoarding, but u had the space and didn't have a legit backup for ur RB after week 1...

To suggest that somebody picking up a FA that is now the #1 RB on a team after an injury as hoarding, is just misusing the definition.

Two glaring issues, u shouldn't of been relying on the waiver wire for a started by week 2 with just one injury at aposition

and with these big rosters, why did u not have a handcuff?
</P>


lol are you telling me how to play fantasy football? As far as I'm concern the jury is out on you, Matt!!
I have a respectable record here, I know what I'm doing. You on the other hand. Youre all bark, no bite!</P>


(sorry for the delayed response. I was forced to do some mindnumbing busy-work)</P>

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:23 PM
whether or not i am right or wrong

Pizz, i think ur general outlook on fantasy is offbase. The draft means everything the whole year. For you to say the later round picks dont mean nothing is a falsehood, that is typically where its all won. Those are the diamonds in the rough that win it for you and give u the trade bait to improve your team

by making the FA pool bigger u just give teams a bigger bench I feel like since they will always have somebody to pick up out there. When u make the temas bigger, there isn't that luxory of just knowing you'll be able to get quality on the the FA so you better draft right, maintain ur team right, and who is on your team completely matters.

It totally defeats your point that the later rounds don't matter

I really strongly agree with Matt here. I would hate to lose you over something so stupid Pizz. I value every single pick I make. With the extra spots you can handcuff your most important people. Maybe down to 6 but 5 seems way to small. Plus sometimes you have 2 defenses, kickers, QB's and such. I still like 7. It gives you alot of flexibility. Plus it's the game and strategy....

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 03:27 PM
You were in the $ last year, correct?
</p>


Yea I lost in the finals, but the payouts are good for our league.</p>
You were awesome last year man...Seriously! But you already know this.
It's gotta be from watching Friday Night Lights? I' gonna get the series cd collection.

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 03:29 PM
what didn't u like again? I forgot

flex is brutal, i'm with you
</p>


well, flex causes the next issue I had which is FAR too many bench spots.I think we had 8, which is total overkill and causes player hoarding, which decreases the competition since adding and dropping players becomes meaningless since you end up picking up players you might not even need.

if you have saaay....5 bench spots....dropping a player for another ACTUALLY means something, and might actually take some thought.
</p>




eh i'd agree to an extent. 8 May of been too much but 5 is def way too small..

i prefer bigger benches because it helps trades happen and then if somebody just goes down u don't have an easy pickup off the FA wire.


</p>


yes and no...</p>


there should be some value to who is available in free agency.

There'sZERO value in it if you go to the player list and the only players available are Arizona's 3rd string RB, and the Bears 6th WR....</p>




thats hardly ever the case though, its really no that deep at all ur exaggerating

there are only 12 fantasy teams

Thats the point, you build ur team and you make sure every spot matters... it puts more stress on your later rounds. This is another reason why i like the later keeper rules, because it makes every pick matter. Once a player hits the FA wire he loses his keeper eligibility as well

with waivers and **** its really impossible to be a FA wire raper... because higher waiver priority will always get players like that.


</p>


well....that makes literally no sense at all to me.
your late picks dont mean jack **** at all. you dont know what a last round pick is going to do, if anything. it's ALL about the FAs/Waiver....
And if there's nobody available, then you just completely take out an entire facet of fantasy sports.

I'm not angry, I mean, I know I'm a good fantasy GM....but if we don't change this, I just don't think I can give this a 3rd go.
What's strange to me, is that nobody gives an opinion either way on what you and I discuss. lol</p>well I won't butt in to much here caause I'm not all that good at the game but I get what Pizz is saying 8 player bench takes 96 players out of play and they are not all **** players...but you can make trades and what not...which is all part of the game ....including hording a player to keep another team from getting better... no?I love playing and want to see all the guys here play so lets get this ffba settled

I agree but I look at it like this:

There are 6 different starting positions, that total 9 different starters

You should have at least 1 QB, 2RB, and 2 WR backups (whether its flex or not)

Thats 5 spots right there. Only 5 spots are entirely too small. I prefer going to 7 because u still have to worry about bye weeks for three other positions and plus by leaving that much quality in the market its almost like no penalty for just signing somebody to replace a bad pick...

The FA pool thin is the best way to do it i feel like. That way you actually build your team. The draft should be the most important thing of fantasy. Then obviously maintaining, but there were still PLENTY of FA pickups done throughout the season. This is a comeptitive league and everybody needs to be on their game. Waiver wire helps reduce the FA abuse

And so would the keeper idea i am proposing. Besides the fact that the first few rounds aren't effected by the keeper and u get to pick all the big names again pretty much, but it also refrains people from releasing players. There may be a rookie u have on ur squad that may be woreth the bang, u want to wait out. Like if I were able to keep Mike Williams for an 8th rounder that would be awesome

It makes the whole draft important

I totally agree with you Matt. I like the big bench. Trades, injuries, strategy, insurance or you take a waiver on a guy in hopes he will tear it up one day. Chris Ivory for instance last year.

However, I hate the idea of the keeper league. No way we have the same 12 people next year. Plus I like getting a whole new team every year.

I am down to drop the flex as well if need be. 3 WR's and 2 RB's does put less importance on RB and the extra depth on the bench would help in that format as well.

The one other thing that needs to be changed is defensive points. When a D would get a shutout it would only give 10 points. I think that should be changed to 15 or 20 honestly. It rarely happens.

I also hate individual defensive players. **** that! Only Defense yo


I agree with everything except the keeper obviously. It doesn't matter if we have a few peices change every year. IT seems like we have a base 8 that will always be in it and then hopfully with these next few guys we add they stay longer. Like I dont see Sharick or ny bailing. Lawl may not do it but then we have LT who seems like hes a lifer

I am def into relooking defensive scoring as well. Somebody from my main league told me they added a couple of new cool features to team defense this year as well, i just forgot waht they were
[Y]

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 03:30 PM
no the point is ur complaining about hoarding, but u had the space and didn't have a legit backup for ur RB after week 1...

To suggest that somebody picking up a FA that is now the #1 RB on a team after an injury as hoarding, is just misusing the definition.

Two glaring issues, u shouldn't of been relying on the waiver wire for a started by week 2 with just one injury at aposition

and with these big rosters, why did u not have a handcuff?
</p>


lol are you telling me how to play fantasy football? As far as I'm concern the jury is out on you, Matt!!
I have a respectable record here, I know what I'm doing. You on the other hand. Youre all bark, no bite!</p>


(sorry for the delayed response. I was forced to do some mindnumbing busy-work)</p>

i got cash prizes in big leagues pappy... but we're straying

the point is u can't tell me that having a broad FA wire every week is somehow a better league than having teams...

Having a huge FA list essentially gives everybody a huge bench. When u have bigger teams, who u get is who u guy, so while in ur short bench leagues - yea the later rounds dont mean much, that obviously isn't true in a bigger teamed league becasue u won't have the luxory of being able to plug and play from the FA wire every year

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 03:32 PM
whether or not i am right or wrong

Pizz, i think ur general outlook on fantasy is offbase. The draft means everything the whole year. For you to say the later round picks dont mean nothing is a falsehood, that is typically where its all won. Those are the diamonds in the rough that win it for you and give u the trade bait to improve your team

by making the FA pool bigger u just give teams a bigger bench I feel like since they will always have somebody to pick up out there. When u make the temas bigger, there isn't that luxory of just knowing you'll be able to get quality on the the FA so you better draft right, maintain ur team right, and who is on your team completely matters.

It totally defeats your point that the later rounds don't matter

I really strongly agree with Matt here. I would hate to lose you over something so stupid Pizz. I value every single pick I make. With the extra spots you can handcuff your most important people. Maybe down to 6 but 5 seems way to small. Plus sometimes you have 2 defenses, kickers, QB's and such. I still like 7. It gives you alot of flexibility. Plus it's the game and strategy....


yea I woud like to stay at 7 but 5 is def out of the question I think

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:32 PM
Youre all bark, no bite!



</p>
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tPtBLqGpyPA/TcT0Ddkrh_I/AAAAAAAAAOM/vaJwg9FgK7k/s1600/homer_eating_popcorn.jpg

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 03:37 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.


we only take advice from guys that put their starting lineups in every week lol
</P>


So we shouldn't listen to you?</P>




me?

if i did i dont remember nad everybody gets one mulligan




You did it more than once. You would have beat Morehead one week if you played a kicker. It was unacceptable. That being said I may not have won the league had you beat MH that week so thanks man!


karma works in mysterious ways
</P>


Lando is misremembering. </P>


It was against Blondie and he lost by 5 points. Lando and I both got screwed by that.</P>

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 03:47 PM
no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

I totally agree. Sharick is automatically in because he won the A league. Lawl should have got in last year but we gave his spot to Shockey Show. He sucked by the way...lol People need to get demoted to the B league if we have won. lol


so we have three openings this year

Dezz is out, Shockey is out, and bandy is out

Sharick - lawl - ny06 get first invites... LT is first on deck
</P>


Why would you think Shocks is out?</P>

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:49 PM
no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

I totally agree. Sharick is automatically in because he won the A league. Lawl should have got in last year but we gave his spot to Shockey Show. He sucked by the way...lol People need to get demoted to the B league if we have won. lol


so we have three openings this year

Dezz is out, Shockey is out, and bandy is out

Sharick - lawl - ny06 get first invites... LT is first on deck
</p>


Why would you think Shocks is out?</p>
I wondered the same thing...

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 03:49 PM
Francesa



" .. I'm not going to bring up your girlfriend or wife or whatever she is because I dont do that...."



lmao

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 03:50 PM
Lando is <font color="#0000FF">misremembering</font>.


It was against Blondie and he lost by 5 points. Lando and I both got screwed by that.</p>
You are probably right...

Did you make that word up?

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 03:51 PM
Lando is <font color="#0000ff">misremembering</font>.


It was against Blondie and he lost by 5 points. Lando and I both got screwed by that.</p>
You are probably right...

Did you make that word up?
no its real

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 03:54 PM
Lando is <FONT color=#0000ff>misremembering</FONT>.


It was against Blondie and he lost by 5 points. Lando and I both got screwed by that.</P>



You are probably right...

Did you make that word up?
</P>


It was made up but not by me.</P>


Its a Roger Clemens word.</P>

shocknaweny
06-22-2011, 03:55 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.
</P>


</P>


I play in a 3 QB League ....it is nuts !!</P>

shocknaweny
06-22-2011, 03:56 PM
no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

I totally agree. Sharick is automatically in because he won the A league. Lawl should have got in last year but we gave his spot to Shockey Show. He sucked by the way...lol People need to get demoted to the B league if we have won. lol


so we have three openings this year

Dezz is out, Shockey is out, and bandy is out

Sharick - lawl - ny06 get first invites... LT is first on deck
</P>


Why would you think Shocks is out?</P>



I wondered the same thing...
</P>


</P>


Why am I out ?????</P>

byron
06-22-2011, 04:03 PM
no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

I totally agree. Sharick is automatically in because he won the A league. Lawl should have got in last year but we gave his spot to Shockey Show. He sucked by the way...lol People need to get demoted to the B league if we have won. lol


so we have three openings this year

Dezz is out, Shockey is out, and bandy is out

Sharick - lawl - ny06 get first invites... LT is first on deck
</P>


Why would you think Shocks is out?</P>



I wondered the same thing...
</P>


</P>


Why am I out ?????</P> I believematt is referring to shocky snow or show...snow show

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 04:05 PM
whether or not i am right or wrong

Pizz, i think ur general outlook on fantasy is offbase. The draft means everything the whole year. For you to say the later round picks dont mean nothing is a falsehood, that is typically where its all won. Those are the diamonds in the rough that win it for you and give u the trade bait to improve your team

by making the FA pool bigger u just give teams a bigger bench I feel like since they will always have somebody to pick up out there. When u make the temas bigger, there isn't that luxory of just knowing you'll be able to get quality on the the FA so you better draft right, maintain ur team right, and who is on your team completely matters.

It totally defeats your point that the later rounds don't matter

I really strongly agree with Matt here. I would hate to lose you over something so stupid Pizz. I value every single pick I make. With the extra spots you can handcuff your most important people. Maybe down to 6 but 5 seems way to small. Plus sometimes you have 2 defenses, kickers, QB's and such. I still like 7. It gives you alot of flexibility. Plus it's the game and strategy....


yea I woud like to stay at 7 but 5 is def out of the question I think
</P>


Sorry for the delayed responses. it's getting oddly busy for some reason.

Look, I understand both your points...I get it...

But going to what Lando said about picking up a player just to block them. Yea it's important. HOWEVER, in this league, it makes those types of moves so trivial!
Do you honestly think it was a big decision for Lando to pickup Westbrook by dropping some 4th string jobber elsewhere? course not. If we had less bench spots, with more valuable players onthat bench, by default it's a bigger decision.
I dont see how you guys think thats normal. lol. It's just silly to even need that many players. Adding those players who "ownability" would normally be under question should be definitely more important by what im recommending here.
By everyone having this many players on teams, it devalues a massive part of fantasy football. That's all</P>

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 04:06 PM
i know you guys didnt like the sound of it but if you get the chance to play in a 2 qb league, try it.
</p>


</p>


I play in a 3 QB League ....it is nuts !!</p>lol its fun right?

JPizzack
06-22-2011, 04:07 PM
Why am I out ?????</P>


</P>


I thought they meant shockeyshow.
Havent seen that guy in awhile.....</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:09 PM
goddamn lackey sucks

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:11 PM
no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

I totally agree. Sharick is automatically in because he won the A league. Lawl should have got in last year but we gave his spot to Shockey Show. He sucked by the way...lol People need to get demoted to the B league if we have won. lol


so we have three openings this year

Dezz is out, Shockey is out, and bandy is out

Sharick - lawl - ny06 get first invites... LT is first on deck
</p>


Why would you think Shocks is out?</p>

guys been MIA for months

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:14 PM
no offense to LT, but I think he needs to pay his dues in the B league. Sharick and lawl have been itching to get in as well

I totally agree. Sharick is automatically in because he won the A league. Lawl should have got in last year but we gave his spot to Shockey Show. He sucked by the way...lol People need to get demoted to the B league if we have won. lol


so we have three openings this year

Dezz is out, Shockey is out, and bandy is out

Sharick - lawl - ny06 get first invites... LT is first on deck
</p>


Why would you think Shocks is out?</p>



I wondered the same thing...
</p>


</p>


Why am I out ?????</p> I believematt is referring to shocky snow or show...snow show

yea shockey show

Shock n Awe i referred to as S&amp;A

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:18 PM
whether or not i am right or wrong

Pizz, i think ur general outlook on fantasy is offbase. The draft means everything the whole year. For you to say the later round picks dont mean nothing is a falsehood, that is typically where its all won. Those are the diamonds in the rough that win it for you and give u the trade bait to improve your team

by making the FA pool bigger u just give teams a bigger bench I feel like since they will always have somebody to pick up out there. When u make the temas bigger, there isn't that luxory of just knowing you'll be able to get quality on the the FA so you better draft right, maintain ur team right, and who is on your team completely matters.

It totally defeats your point that the later rounds don't matter

I really strongly agree with Matt here. I would hate to lose you over something so stupid Pizz. I value every single pick I make. With the extra spots you can handcuff your most important people. Maybe down to 6 but 5 seems way to small. Plus sometimes you have 2 defenses, kickers, QB's and such. I still like 7. It gives you alot of flexibility. Plus it's the game and strategy....


yea I woud like to stay at 7 but 5 is def out of the question I think
</p>


Sorry for the delayed responses. it's getting oddly busy for some reason.

Look, I understand both your points...I get it...

But going to what Lando said about picking up a player just to block them. Yea it's important. HOWEVER, in this league, it makes those types of moves so trivial!
Do you honestly think it was a big decision for Lando to pickup Westbrook by dropping some 4th string jobber elsewhere? course not. If we had less bench spots, with more valuable players onthat bench, by default it's a bigger decision.
I dont see how you guys think thats normal. lol. It's just silly to even need that many players. Adding those players who "ownability" would normally be under question should be definitely more important by what im recommending here.
By everyone having this many players on teams, it devalues a massive part of fantasy football. That's all</p>

im missing ur point that its trivial.

No it wasn't a big decision for him to do that. But honestly if u didn't have the bench to back up RB with players, then it was ur bad for not having a handcuff. What were u wasting the roster spot on?

It was an absolute no brainer for Lando - to capitalize on your mistake.

And I hate the fact that somebody who drafts like **** can be saved by a healthy FA wire. Thats essentially my answer to ur point of having a big FA class.

I disagree... having players that can be plug and play from the FA wire every week devalues the essence of fantasy football. Being able to make a million waiver moves that will give u starters takes away from the draft

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 04:18 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
yea im glad we didnt get him. his career stats arent good either. and id like to see lester pitch with a dry hat. if he wants extra zip on his ball, he can lick his fingers. seriously every time i see him it looks like he just got out of the shower with his uniform on.

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:18 PM
Why am I out ?????</p>


</p>


I thought they meant shockeyshow.
Havent seen that guy in awhile.....</p>

yea we did

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 04:18 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</P>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:20 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>

has nothing to do with the fact that lackey blows ****

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 04:22 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 04:29 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:31 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]


i dunno, but yankees haven't been playing their typical great baseball this year and we're about to be in first

while pappy has been **** ridin the sox and all of a sudden they are in 2nd...

rut row

bigblue4417
06-22-2011, 04:34 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]


i dunno, but yankees haven't been playing their typical great baseball this year and we're about to be in first

while pappy has been **** ridin the sox and all of a sudden they are in 2nd...

rut row

It's a long season as you say but you guys had wrote them off earlier this year...Give a lil credit.

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:36 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]


i dunno, but yankees haven't been playing their typical great baseball this year and we're about to be in first

while pappy has been **** ridin the sox and all of a sudden they are in 2nd...

rut row

It's a long season as you say but you guys had wrote them off earlier this year...Give a lil credit.


it is a long season and i always say that... i never wrote them off. If anybody proclaims anything in april or may baseball they are morons

hence why im picking on moorehead ;)

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 04:38 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:39 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times


U always forget Nova playing great

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 04:42 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times


U always forget Nova playing great
no im not.lol im saying everyones doing good and we hafve guys coming back,

nova or garcia to help the pen?

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:43 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times


U always forget Nova playing great
no im not.lol im saying everyones doing good and we hafve guys coming back,

nova or garcia to help the pen?


garcia

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 04:45 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times


U always forget Nova playing great
no im not.lol im saying everyones doing good and we hafve guys coming back,

nova or garcia to help the pen?


garcia
agreed. hope girardi gets it right that ****.

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 04:53 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</P>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</P>


fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times
</P>


You are amazing Dez. Not a peep from you with the Sox on a tear. Now you're a chatty Cathy.</P>


Be consistent kid.</P>

bandwgn86
06-22-2011, 04:54 PM
i hate interleague play.. [:'(]

MattMeyerBud
06-22-2011, 04:59 PM
i hate interleague play.. [:'(]


u should just hate baseball at this point

bandwgn86
06-22-2011, 05:02 PM
i hate interleague play.. [:'(]


u should just hate baseball at this point
by August.

dezzzR
06-22-2011, 05:51 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>


fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times
</p>


You are amazing Dez. Not a peep from you with the Sox on a tear. Now you're a chatty Cathy.</p>


Be consistent kid.</p>lol is this joke? youre one to talk. and iv been chatty the whole time with you.

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 07:05 PM
goddamn lackey sucks
</P>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</P>


fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times
</P>


You are amazing Dez. Not a peep from you with the Sox on a tear. Now you're a chatty Cathy.</P>


Be consistent kid.</P>


lol is this joke? youre one to talk. and iv been chatty the whole time with you.


</P>


Funny but after the Red Sox sweep of the Yanks I didn't hear a thing. you noticed that you heard nothing from me as well.</P>

Morehead State
06-22-2011, 07:18 PM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</P>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</P>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </P>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</P>


"You will lose"</P>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</P>

ny06
06-22-2011, 10:17 PM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</P>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</P>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </P>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</P>


"You will lose"</P>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</P>


</P>


http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/composition/18106346/view/1/producttypecolor/2/type/png/width/280/height/280/that-s-a-load-of-****_design.png</P>

lttaylor56
06-22-2011, 10:23 PM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</P>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</P>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </P>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</P>


"You will lose"</P>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</P>


</P>


Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</P>

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 08:19 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</P>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</P>

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 08:25 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</P>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</P>


</P>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</P>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</P>

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 08:30 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</P>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</P>


</P>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</P>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</P>


</P>


I guess I agree. I mean I feel the first 2 are basically the same thing anyway. But youre right, the first one was the only good movie.
</P>

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 08:40 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</P>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</P>


</P>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</P>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</P>


</P>


I guess I agree. I mean I feel the first 2 are basically the same thing anyway. But youre right, the first one was the only good movie.
</P>


</P>


I thought the first one had some really poignant scenes. It was an exploration of a broken down underachiever, when he was put in this bizaare situation, with an opportunity to find something in himself.</P>


The second was just an attemp to resolve the (what I believe to be secondary) storyline of the fight with Creed. Rocky II was just an attemp to cash out further.</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 08:45 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</p>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</p>


</p>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</p>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</p>


</p>


I guess I agree. I mean I feel the first 2 are basically the same thing anyway. But youre right, the first one was the only good movie.
</p>The first one gave us the introduction to "human exploration" as MH put it nicely. The belief that a good hearted underdog could prevail with hard work and hope. Rocky II continued with similar storyline as the first one. Hollywood switched it up and took us a couple of steps further with Rocky III with the creation of the bigger than life Clubber Lang, Mickey's death and Appollo training Rocky for the Clubber re-match. I'm thinking Rocky III came out around 83-84. Sports Science had progressed rapidly since the beginning of the Rocky series as evident in Stallone &amp; Carl Weather's physique's that were clearly taking advantage of pharmaceuticals at that time. Rocky IV creates and even larger foe with Dragar, a complete David and Goliath story. Rocky V was prob my least favorite with that big kid that wanted Rock's help. I thought Rocky VI(the most recent) wrapped up the saga in a nice way.

Agree with Pizz on the russian flick getting somewhat political. Even Rocky's dialogue at the end was cheesy regarding us vs russia.

To this day, Rocky IV is part of my night before pre-powerlifting competition ritual.

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 08:50 AM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</p>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</p>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </p>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</p>


"You will lose"</p>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</p>

how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 08:51 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</p>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</p>


</p>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</p>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</p>


</p>


I guess I agree. I mean I feel the first 2 are basically the same thing anyway. But youre right, the first one was the only good movie.
</p>


</p>


I thought the first one had some really poignant scenes. It was an exploration of a broken down underachiever, when he was put in this bizaare situation, with an opportunity to find something in himself.</p>


The second was just an attemp to resolve the (what I believe to be secondary) storyline of the fight with Creed. Rocky II was just an attemp to cash out further.</p>With the poignancy(word?) Both #3(MIckey) and #4(apollo) used the death of someone close to Rocky to propel his drive to overcome adversity. The two were similar progressing Rocky thru mourning, despair, depression, waking up, training and victory. All things that the average Joe can relate to.

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 08:51 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</p>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</p>


</p>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</p>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</p>

rocky 2 was pretty legit

And i'm a sucker for Rocky 3 i think it was when Hulk body slammed him out of the ring an d Mr. T landed some shots

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 08:54 AM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</P>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</P>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </P>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</P>


"You will lose"</P>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</P>




how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

<FONT size=5>You sir represent all that is evil to this country
</FONT>

You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</P>


Matt, this may be the nicest thing you have ever said to me.</P>


I love you too, man!! (I'm holding back the tears......and failing)</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 08:54 AM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</p>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</p>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </p>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</p>


"You will lose"</p>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</p>

how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
.......and we're off. Straight out of the gate is MMB with an early lead. Right behind him on the outside edge is MH, biting at the bit for his chance to pass, Pizz is on the heels of MH, but his horse looks gased. Wait a minute where's LT? He didn't start the race, he's signing autographs and posing for pictures!

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 08:55 AM
The first one gave us the introduction to "human exploration" as MH put it nicely. The belief that a good hearted underdog could prevail with hard work and hope. Rocky II continued with similar storyline as the first one. Hollywood switched it up and took us a couple of steps further with Rocky III with the creation of the bigger than life Clubber Lang, Mickey's death and Appollo training Rocky for the Clubber re-match. I'm thinking Rocky III came out around 83-84. Sports Science had progressed rapidly since the beginning of the Rocky series as evident in Stallone &amp; Carl Weather's physique's that were clearly taking advantage of pharmaceuticals at that time. Rocky IV creates and even larger foe with Dragar, a complete David and Goliath story. Rocky V was prob my least favorite with that big kid that wanted Rock's help. I thought Rocky VI(the most recent) wrapped up the saga in a nice way.

Agree with Pizz on the russian flick getting somewhat political. Even Rocky's dialogue at the end was cheesy regarding us vs russia.

To this day, Rocky IV is part of my night before pre-powerlifting competition ritual.

</P>


lol....Rocky III and V were awful movies.
Tommy Morrison playing Tommy the Machine Gunn in Rocky V right? He's in the Fight Night game I have. Didn't that get the HIV virus, and then try to hide it or something?</P>

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 08:56 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</P>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</P>


</P>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</P>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</P>


</P>


I guess I agree. I mean I feel the first 2 are basically the same thing anyway. But youre right, the first one was the only good movie.
</P>


</P>


I thought the first one had some really poignant scenes. It was an exploration of a broken down underachiever, when he was put in this bizaare situation, with an opportunity to find something in himself.</P>


The second was just an attemp to resolve the (what I believe to be secondary) storyline of the fight with Creed. Rocky II was just an attemp to cash out further.</P>


With the poignancy(word?) Both #3(MIckey) and #4(apollo) used the death of someone close to Rocky to propel his drive to overcome adversity. The two were similar progressing Rocky thru mourning, despair, depression, waking up, training and victory. All things that the average Joe can relate to.
</P>


It was all contrived sentiment after the first Rocky. It all came out of the generic Hollywood playbook from then on.</P>


I disagree (respectfully) Rocky was the only good film of the bunch.</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 08:57 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</p>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</p>


</p>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</p>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</p>

rocky 2 was pretty legit

And i'm a sucker for <u>Rocky 3 i think it was when Hulk</u> body slammed him out of the ring an d Mr. T landed some shots
Hulk--"the ultimate male, vs. the ultimate meatball" Thunderlips, in the flesh Babby! My uncle worked as an electrician at madison sq garden his entire career. He got me a maybe 3' x 2' painting of hulk in his yellow trademark trunks in the ring--it's awesome!

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 08:57 AM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</P>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</P>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </P>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</P>


"You will lose"</P>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</P>




how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
.......and we're off. Straight out of the gate is MMB with an early lead. Right behind him on the outside edge is MH, biting at the bit for his chance to pass, Pizz is on the heels of MH, but his horse looks gased. Wait a minute where's LT? He didn't start the race, he's signing autographs and posing for pictures!
</P>


Hah!!</P>


The debate doesn't ever really start until Matt calls me "Davenlike".</P>

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 08:59 AM
how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</P>


ha....sir, you do have a point with that...</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:00 AM
The first one gave us the introduction to "human exploration" as MH put it nicely. The belief that a good hearted underdog could prevail with hard work and hope. Rocky II continued with similar storyline as the first one. Hollywood switched it up and took us a couple of steps further with Rocky III with the creation of the bigger than life Clubber Lang, Mickey's death and Appollo training Rocky for the Clubber re-match. I'm thinking Rocky III came out around 83-84. Sports Science had progressed rapidly since the beginning of the Rocky series as evident in Stallone &amp; Carl Weather's physique's that were clearly taking advantage of pharmaceuticals at that time. Rocky IV creates and even larger foe with Dragar, a complete David and Goliath story. Rocky V was prob my least favorite with that big kid that wanted Rock's help. I thought Rocky VI(the most recent) wrapped up the saga in a nice way.

Agree with Pizz on the russian flick getting somewhat political. Even Rocky's dialogue at the end was cheesy regarding us vs russia.

To this day, Rocky IV is part of my night before pre-powerlifting competition ritual.

</p>


lol....Rocky III and V were awful movies.
Tommy Morrison playing Tommy the Machine Gunn in Rocky V right? He's in the Fight Night game I have. Didn't that get the HIV virus, and then try to hide it or something?</p>I recall Gunn-getting into some stuff re: hiv or something and issues witht he commission. V was terrible. It's a bodybuilding thing for III + IV and me. Those guy's were jacked up.

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</P>


ha....sir, you do have a point with that...</P>


</P>


Have you seen Brigette Nielsen lately?</P>


It went downhill fast for that chick.</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
Prob my fav of the Rocky series, Rocky IV in Russia. After the Mr. Potato head tapping of the boxing gloves and Apollo's first realization of Drago's strength. There was an ominous feel from that point forward that the outcome was not going to be good.</p>


Yea?? I feel like alot of ppl say that...
I like it, but I like Rocky and Rocky II the best I think.

Maybe I read into it a bit much, but I always felt Rocky IV was a total exploitation of the Cold War lol. Like, at the end, all the Russians are cheering for Rocky? Really? Who buys into this ****? lol.
My buddy at work always jokes that Rocky saved the world in that one haha.
That being said, it is still a movie I like ;)</p>


</p>


The original "Rocky" was the only real good film of the entire series.</p>


Every other was an exploitation of something or another. The original was at least an attempt at some human exploration.</p>


</p>


I guess I agree. I mean I feel the first 2 are basically the same thing anyway. But youre right, the first one was the only good movie.
</p>


</p>


I thought the first one had some really poignant scenes. It was an exploration of a broken down underachiever, when he was put in this bizaare situation, with an opportunity to find something in himself.</p>


The second was just an attemp to resolve the (what I believe to be secondary) storyline of the fight with Creed. Rocky II was just an attemp to cash out further.</p>


With the poignancy(word?) Both #3(MIckey) and #4(apollo) used the death of someone close to Rocky to propel his drive to overcome adversity. The two were similar progressing Rocky thru mourning, despair, depression, waking up, training and victory. All things that the average Joe can relate to.
</p>


It was all contrived sentiment after the first Rocky. It all came out of the generic Hollywood playbook from then on.</p>


I disagree (respectfully) Rocky was the only good film of the bunch.</p>True in those respects for someone who strictly watches the movie for entertainment. Those movies mean much more to me.....Stallone obsessed.

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:04 AM
how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</p>


ha....sir, you do have a point with that...</p>


</p>


Have you seen Brigette Nielsen lately?</p>


It went downhill fast for that chick.</p>Funny you mention that. She was in Cobra with Stallone. The long leggy blonde around the time she was with Gastineau. Have not see lately? BAd?

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</p>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</p>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </p>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</p>


"You will lose"</p>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</p>




how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

<font size="5">You sir represent all that is evil to this country
</font>

You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</p>


Matt, this may be the nicest thing you have ever said to me.</p>


I love you too, man!! (I'm holding back the tears......and failing)</p>

in the words of Hacksaw Jim Duggan - " HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.com/wp-content/uploads/4963/WWE-Superstar-Hackshaw-Jim-Duggan-01.jpg

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
There is no need to worry in the event that Steve Smith does not make a full recovery or if our wide receiver corps are decimated by injury this year. Eli has been practicing with NYG's newest secret weapon. A proto-typical muscle machine from the 60's--in spite of his age, scouts report that his ability to throw a badass block rivals the likes of Bavaro and Shockey. Also very Tyree like catching ability if I may say so.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee464/lttaylor56/meandeli.jpg

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 09:13 AM
how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</P>


ha....sir, you do have a point with that...</P>


</P>


Have you seen Brigette Nielsen lately?</P>


It went downhill fast for that chick.</P>


Funny you mention that. She was in Cobra with Stallone. The long leggy blonde around the time she was with Gastineau. Have not see lately? BAd?
</P>


I think she was with Stallone for a while after Cobra</P>

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
in the words of Hacksaw Jim Duggan - " HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.com/wp-content/uploads/4963/WWE-Superstar-Hackshaw-Jim-Duggan-01.jpg

</P>


lmao...</P>


yo, that guy went from awesome...to full RETODD extremely quick. tell me im wrong!! what happened to that dude back then?</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:17 AM
how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</p>


ha....sir, you do have a point with that...</p>


</p>


Have you seen Brigette Nielsen lately?</p>


It went downhill fast for that chick.</p>


Funny you mention that. She was in Cobra with Stallone. The long leggy blonde around the time she was with Gastineau. Have not see lately? BAd?
</p>


I think she was with Stallone for a while after Cobra</p>Forgot about that she was with sly. His list of notches in his belt go pretty long..wasn't he also with Sharon Stone?

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 09:28 AM
how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</p>


ha....sir, you do have a point with that...</p>


</p>


Have you seen Brigette Nielsen lately?</p>


It went downhill fast for that chick.</p>


Funny you mention that. She was in Cobra with Stallone. The long leggy blonde around the time she was with Gastineau. Have not see lately? BAd?
</p>


I think she was with Stallone for a while after Cobra</p>Forgot about that she was with sly. His list of notches in his belt go pretty long..wasn't he also with Sharon Stone?


u gotta fix your sig

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:32 AM
how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

You sir represent all that is evil to this country


You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</p>


ha....sir, you do have a point with that...</p>


</p>


Have you seen Brigette Nielsen lately?</p>


It went downhill fast for that chick.</p>


Funny you mention that. She was in Cobra with Stallone. The long leggy blonde around the time she was with Gastineau. Have not see lately? BAd?
</p>


I think she was with Stallone for a while after Cobra</p>Forgot about that she was with sly. His list of notches in his belt go pretty long..wasn't he also with Sharon Stone?


u gotta fix your sig
Oh dam --it is a bit big.

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 09:36 AM
moorehead i just listend to that tiki on francesa interview

ur a fool, bottom line.

I didn't realize u were just a tiki jock boy. I obviously hate Tiki and I dislike Mike. Obviously stronger feelings towards Tiki but Mike asked a straight ****ing question about tiki coming back to football because he loves it or because his broadcasting career was a failure. Tiki went off on a tangent about how it wasn't a failure

to this point and time there is debating the fact that Tiki has had a failed broadcasting career

and to respond to the same point i've seen u post throughout every tiki thread in TAGF, there is no disputing that Mike is one of the most successful sports guys of all time...

Regardless if he once upon a time got fired.

To date - Tiki has been a failure as a broadcaster and the NBC stint was def a failure...

how can u even debate that. It wasn't a sandbagging, he just didn't let Tiki bull**** his way through the question. ANd keeping the agent on the line def kept Mike amped

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 09:44 AM
moorehead i just listend to that tiki on francesa interview

ur a fool, bottom line.

I didn't realize u were just a tiki jock boy. I obviously hate Tiki and I dislike Mike. Obviously stronger feelings towards Tiki but Mike asked a straight ****ing question about tiki coming back to football because he loves it or because his broadcasting career was a failure. Tiki went off on a tangent about how it wasn't a failure

to this point and time there is debating the fact that Tiki has had a failed broadcasting career

and to respond to the same point i've seen u post throughout every tiki thread in TAGF, there is no disputing that Mike is one of the most successful sports guys of all time...

Regardless if he once upon a time got fired.

To date - Tiki has been a failure as a broadcaster and the NBC stint was def a failure...

how can u even debate that. It wasn't a sandbagging, he just didn't let Tiki bull**** his way through the question. ANd keeping the agent on the line def kept Mike amped
</P>


I'm defnitely not a fan of francessa....but **** tiki barber!!!....**** what he's done. the only thing we won in the past 20 years, we won without him. And he's a huge ******bag, so no love lost Tiki.
It doesnt matter how good he was for us, to me...at all.
</P>

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 09:44 AM
goddamn lackey sucks
</p>


Too bad its gunna get rained out.</p>


fantastic. well be in first by days end. muhahahahahaaa

How did the Sox get in first after starting so bad? [:P]
doesnt matter how you start. weve been hot and getting hotter and with phil and bart coming back, waaaatch out. its a shame mh cant enjoy it for old times
</p>


You are amazing Dez. Not a peep from you with the Sox on a tear. Now you're a chatty Cathy.</p>


Be consistent kid.</p>


lol is this joke? youre one to talk. and iv been chatty the whole time with you.


</p>


Funny but after the Red Sox sweep of the Yanks I didn't hear a thing. you noticed that you heard nothing from me as well.</p>didnt we go over this already? you came in after the first win *****ing about how WE were *****ing that pappi threw his bat. but you were the one to bring it up and you were the only one talking about it. alzheimers is sooo sad.

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:49 AM
moorehead i just listend to that tiki on francesa interview

ur a fool, bottom line.

I didn't realize u were just a tiki jock boy. I obviously hate Tiki and I dislike Mike. Obviously stronger feelings towards Tiki but Mike asked a straight ****ing question about tiki coming back to football because he loves it or because his broadcasting career was a failure. Tiki went off on a tangent about how it wasn't a failure

to this point and time there is debating the fact that Tiki has had a failed broadcasting career

and to respond to the same point i've seen u post throughout every tiki thread in TAGF, there is no disputing that Mike is one of the most successful sports guys of all time...

Regardless if he once upon a time got fired.

To date - Tiki has been a failure as a broadcaster and the NBC stint was def a failure...

how can u even debate that. It wasn't a sandbagging, he just didn't let Tiki bull**** his way through the question. ANd keeping the agent on the line def kept Mike amped
</p>


I'm defnitely not a fan of francessa....but **** tiki barber!!!....**** what he's done. the only thing we won in the past 20 years, we won without him. And he's a huge ******bag, so no love lost Tiki.
It doesnt matter how good he was for us, to me...at all.
</p>+1 I used to love Tiki before the end of his last season here. He ruined all the great that he did in his 10 year career here for me. He did a complete turnaround. For 9.5 years he was the most easy to like guy, took an enormous amount of time with the fan's at practices and events. He always did and said the right thing. Then he imploded.

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 09:52 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:53 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
Don't you mean boggling?

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 09:55 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
i was disappointed in his opinion on plax as well. but i think hes screwing around

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 09:55 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
Don't you mean boggling?


no bottling, like when life gets so crazy and it gets caught in your head like a bottle

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 09:56 AM
http://www.bladesofgloryquotes.com/will-ferrell/will-ferrell-blades-glory.jpg

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 09:56 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
Don't you mean boggling?
"Yeah, you know, when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle"

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 09:57 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
i was disappointed in his opinion on plax as well. but i think hes screwing around


what was his opinion of plax?

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 09:59 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
Don't you mean boggling?


no bottling, like when life gets so crazy and it gets caught in your head like a bottle


[Y]Considered that after I posted.

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 10:00 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
i was disappointed in his opinion on plax as well. but i think hes screwing around


what was his opinion of plax?
the the philly hat was nothing. the jets comment was nothing....

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:01 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
i was disappointed in his opinion on plax as well. but i think hes screwing around


what was his opinion of plax?
the the philly hat was nothing. the jets comment was nothing....



it very well could of been... i can't say it was or wasn't either way but ur just as wrong to dismiss the idea that it was nothing as he is to dismiss the idea that it was sending the message

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 10:01 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
Don't you mean boggling?
"Yeah, you know, when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle"Like quicksand, no matter how hard you try to move forward, you just keep sinking deeper.

http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/i/b/ibbc6mz2llbn2zlc.jpg

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 10:10 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
Don't you mean boggling?
"Yeah, you know, when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle"Like quicksand, no matter how hard you try to move forward, you just keep sinking deeper.

http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/i/b/ibbc6mz2llbn2zlc.jpg
i love that guy. and her, gaawd damn shes hot.
http://www.filmcritic.com/assets_c/2010/02/The-Replacements-thumb-560xauto-26231.gif

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:12 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 10:16 AM
I am really disappointed in pappy if this is his real opinion

if hes just davening, then okay, but if he really thinks this its mind bottling
Don't you mean boggling?
"Yeah, you know, when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle"Like quicksand, no matter how hard you try to move forward, you just keep sinking deeper.

http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/i/b/ibbc6mz2llbn2zlc.jpg
i love that guy. and her, gaawd damn shes hot.
http://www.filmcritic.com/assets_c/2010/02/The-Replacements-thumb-560xauto-26231.gif
That guy and the kicker were awesome! I liked the cheerleaders that applied from the strip club!

ibleedblue85
06-23-2011, 10:16 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!!


WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:17 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



and like last time, first timers don't ge thte priviledge to vote lol

so 5 is the majority of the 9 returning players. No extra guff for the commish this year. It is what it is

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:21 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!!


WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!

yea thats fine, just don't break down in tears again this year

"IF U GUYS DONT LIKE HOW I DO THINGS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE BE THE COMMISH"

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhifs6G9jZ1qci6sw.gif

ibleedblue85
06-23-2011, 10:24 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!!


WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!

yea thats fine, just don't break down in tears again this year

"IF U GUYS DONT LIKE HOW I DO THINGS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE BE THE COMMISH"

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhifs6G9jZ1qci6sw.gif




i dont break down... just remember your only one person and its not what you say goes

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 10:25 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



Who is IN the league is not really a huge issue to me. I know dezz hasnt argued about being removed. Who was the other person you guys were sayin was a slacker? i forget.
I dont know Sharick that well, but NY06 and Lawl deserve spots.

Standard Roster Setup. (NO FLEX)
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, K, DEF.
5 Bench spots.
I like the idea of keeper, but I think it's more headache than it is a convenience.
Defensive scoring: I dont recall how it was setup last season. Was it ever an issue? I dont think negative points should come in to play personally for defenses. Although, in order to have 0 pts as the floor, I guess that might make scoring a little higher. But we could have fractional points for that too I suppose.
Bonuses are ok, as long as they are lofty enough to not mess up "common" stats. like 200 yards passing is NOT a bonus. that's totally normal, so a qb shouldnt be rewarded for it. I dont remember the exact setup last time.

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:25 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!!


WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!

yea thats fine, just don't break down in tears again this year

"IF U GUYS DONT LIKE HOW I DO THINGS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE BE THE COMMISH"

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhifs6G9jZ1qci6sw.gif




i dont break down... just remember your only one person and its not what you say goes

no **** sherlock, hence why i am getting the voting process together

DURRRRRRRRRRRRR

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 10:25 AM
moorehead i just listend to that tiki on francesa interview

ur a fool, bottom line.

I didn't realize u were just a tiki jock boy. I obviously hate Tiki and I dislike Mike. Obviously stronger feelings towards Tiki but Mike asked a straight ****ing question about tiki coming back to football because he loves it or because his broadcasting career was a failure. Tiki went off on a tangent about how it wasn't a failure

to this point and time there is debating the fact that Tiki has had a failed broadcasting career

and to respond to the same point i've seen u post throughout every tiki thread in TAGF, there is no disputing that Mike is one of the most successful sports guys of all time...

Regardless if he once upon a time got fired.

To date - Tiki has been a failure as a broadcaster and the NBC stint was def a failure...

how can u even debate that. It wasn't a sandbagging, he just didn't let Tiki bull**** his way through the question. ANd keeping the agent on the line def kept Mike amped
</P>


Don't be a ****head Matt, and read what I said.</P>


I have never been shy about expressing my view about how big an arrogant jackoff Tiki is. I thought he was a great football player and (when playing) a great Giant, but a jackoff non the less.</P>


My thread has nothing to do with my opinion of Tiki Barber, which remains low. It has everything to do with Mike Francessa.</P>


Mike's questions didn't bother me. His statements did.</P>


"You are a horrible broadcaster". "All the NBC guys told me you were terrible" to name a few.</P>


These are not questions or part of normal dialog. These are cheap shots. And when Tiki tried to defend himself (which we would all do) Mike interrupted and shouted "you got fired by NBC!" Of course Mike himself was fired from CBS for college basketball. Does getting fired mean that you are a terrible broadcaster? Mike thinks it does for Tiki but not for himself. Thats called hypocrisy.</P>


My point is that the hero worship going on here for Mike Francessa for doing exactly what we all hate about him, simply because its aimed at someone we dislike is also hypocrisy.</P>


Deal with it. And as you know I have no problem standing alone on this MB on principle. I won't join the mob here, just because I don't like Tiki.</P>


</P>

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 10:26 AM
whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!! WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!</P>


Hey there! Welcome back to the interwebz ;)</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:28 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



Who is IN the league is not really a huge issue to me. I know dezz hasnt argued about being removed. Who was the other person you guys were sayin was a slacker? i forget.
I dont know Sharick that well, but NY06 and Lawl deserve spots.

Standard Roster Setup. (NO FLEX)
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, K, DEF.
5 Bench spots.
I like the idea of keeper, but I think it's more headache than it is a convenience.
Defensive scoring: I dont recall how it was setup last season. Was it ever an issue? I dont think negative points should come in to play personally for defenses. Although, in order to have 0 pts as the floor, I guess that might make scoring a little higher. But we could have fractional points for that too I suppose.
Bonuses are ok, as long as they are lofty enough to not mess up "common" stats. like 200 yards passing is NOT a bonus. that's totally normal, so a qb shouldnt be rewarded for it. I dont remember the exact setup last time.

Sharick won the B league tho. We have to invite him

na im tellin u its totally not a headache. You set the league up and they have little Ks next to them that show if they are a keeper or not.

Honestly I think standard is going to be the way the league votes just from what everybody is saying

but i also dont think 5 bench spots will make it. If it goes to standard but still has more than 5 bench spots, are u in or out?

ibleedblue85
06-23-2011, 10:28 AM
whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!! WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!</P>


Hey there! Welcome back to the interwebz ;)</P>

thank you.... i hate work... it keeps me away from you guys wayyy to much!

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 10:29 AM
whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!! WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!</P>


Hey there! Welcome back to the interwebz ;)</P>


</P>


Our Commish has proved herself for the last 2 years. We can vote on anything but the final arbitor is Amanda as far as I'm concerned. beware of the tyranny of the majority.</P>


FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!</P>


I stand with our slightly burned commish.</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 10:30 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!!


WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!Hey Amanda! How are you healing from the soup ordeal?&gt;

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:32 AM
moorehead i just listend to that tiki on francesa interview

ur a fool, bottom line.

I didn't realize u were just a tiki jock boy. I obviously hate Tiki and I dislike Mike. Obviously stronger feelings towards Tiki but Mike asked a straight ****ing question about tiki coming back to football because he loves it or because his broadcasting career was a failure. Tiki went off on a tangent about how it wasn't a failure

to this point and time there is debating the fact that Tiki has had a failed broadcasting career

and to respond to the same point i've seen u post throughout every tiki thread in TAGF, there is no disputing that Mike is one of the most successful sports guys of all time...

Regardless if he once upon a time got fired.

To date - Tiki has been a failure as a broadcaster and the NBC stint was def a failure...

how can u even debate that. It wasn't a sandbagging, he just didn't let Tiki bull**** his way through the question. ANd keeping the agent on the line def kept Mike amped
</p>


Don't be a ****head Matt, and read what I said.</p>


I have never been shy about expressing my view about how big an arrogant jackoff Tiki is. I thought he was a great football player and (when playing) a great Giant, but a jackoff non the less.</p>


My thread has nothing to do with my opinion of Tiki Barber, which remains low. It has everything to do with Mike Francessa.</p>


Mike's questions didn't bother me. His statements did.</p>


"You are a horrible broadcaster". "All the NBC guys told me you were terrible" to name a few.</p>


These are not questions or part of normal dialog. These are cheap shots. And when Tiki tried to defend himself (which we would all do) Mike interrupted and shouted "you got fired by NBC!" Of course Mike himself was fired from CBS for college basketball. Does getting fired mean that you are a terrible broadcaster? Mike thinks it does for Tiki but not for himself. Thats called hypocrisy.</p>


My point is that the hero worship going on here for Mike Francessa for doing exactly what we all hate about him, simply because its aimed at someone we dislike is also hypocrisy.</p>


Deal with it. And as you know I have no problem standing alone on this MB on principle. I won't join the mob here, just because I don't like Tiki.</p>


</p>

yea but ur misqouting and essentially changing the way everything was said

Tiki tried saying it was successful and he left on his own accord... Mike countered with facts.

He never came out and said you are terrible, he may of said it failed terribly.... i'm going to go back and listne for that.

Speak for yourself. If I failed at something, i take it on the chin and admit it. How in the world he can try and say it wasn't a failure is what is so crazy.

When Mike gets at people is the reason I like him. When he gets at clalers and doesn't let them talk is when I can't stand him. Being a up the *** interveiwer and not letting the interviewee get away with bull**** is great. I wish he would do that alot more. I hate Francesa because typically his sports opinions are brutal.

You need to listen to that interview again and empty ur head with any pre-conceived notions.

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:33 AM
whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!! WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!</p>


Hey there! Welcome back to the interwebz ;)</p>


</p>


Our Commish has proved herself for the last 2 years. We can vote on anything but the final arbitor is Amanda as far as I'm concerned. beware of the tyranny of the majority.</p>


FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!</p>


I stand with our slightly burned commish.</p>

shes the push if we had even numbers... if the majority is 5 to 4 and the commish is in the minority, she doesn't get to pull weight... no way. I dont care if im in the minority with her on the subject

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:34 AM
I stand with our slightly burned commish.</p>

LMAO i just caught that

bigblue4417
06-23-2011, 10:35 AM
First 2 game losing streak in 3 weeks. This is a special team. Coming back from 2-10.</p>


We all know they are the best team in baseball. Buchholz on the DL along with Crawford. Beckett with a stomach virus. We are the most feared team in baseball. These minor hiccups are mearly a distraction for the faint of heart. This team is regrouping.</p>


You Yankee fans can fantasize about being in first place in June. You can't hold back the inevidable. </p>


In the words ofIvan Drago.</p>


"You will lose"</p>


And we know what happened to Apollo Creed.</p>




how'd that work out for him??

Who call his team america team and then qoutes Ivan Drago??

<font size="5">You sir represent all that is evil to this country
</font>

You will bow down to Americas REAL team - THE NEW YORK YANKEEs
</p>


Matt, this may be the nicest thing you have ever said to me.</p>


I love you too, man!! (I'm holding back the tears......and failing)</p>
How did I live without this for so long?

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 10:38 AM
I stand with our slightly burned commish.</P>




LMAO i just caught that
</P>


How about the mob that wanted to undo my trade with Shocks? Which was a good trade.</P>


Sometimes players have a reason to object to something if they think a rival has helped themselves. The commish has to sort through that.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:42 AM
I stand with our slightly burned commish.</p>




LMAO i just caught that
</p>


How about the mob that wanted to undo my trade with Shocks? Which was a good trade.</p>


Sometimes players have a reason to object to something if they think a rival has helped themselves. The commish has to sort through that.</p>

thats different. I dont mind a fair commish on those things...

but when it comes to rules for the year... that has to be in the majority

ibleedblue85
06-23-2011, 10:42 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!!


WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!Hey Amanda!* How are you healing from the soup ordeal?>


Healing slowly.... today is the first day im in alot less pain. still very sore but finally slept so i feel more rested. thanks for the love ny06 and pappy!!

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 10:46 AM
I stand with our slightly burned commish.</P>




LMAO i just caught that
</P>


How about the mob that wanted to undo my trade with Shocks? Which was a good trade.</P>


Sometimes players have a reason to object to something if they think a rival has helped themselves. The commish has to sort through that.</P>


</P>


I still stand by my opinion that that trade was bad.
BUT, since neither of you won anything, clearly it had no impact on the way things turned out ;)</P>

ibleedblue85
06-23-2011, 10:46 AM
I stand with our slightly burned commish.</p>




LMAO i just caught that
</p>


How about the mob that wanted to undo my trade with Shocks?* Which was a good trade.</p>


Sometimes players have a reason to object to something if they think a rival has helped themselves.* The commish has to sort through that.</p>

thats different.* I dont mind a fair commish on those things...

but when it comes to rules for the year... that has to be in the majority


im not arguing with voting... i never have so i dont get what this is even about. i want ever player to have fun and enjoy the league there for majority vote on the rules is what it is. however pappy i will agree with you.. the commish's input may be needed in trading situations,ect and that should remain the same imho.

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 10:47 AM
I don't want to talk trash


I want YOU to talk trash!!!</P>


</P>


lol...</P>


ok.</P>


**** Boston.</P>


LUNCH TIME!!!!</P>


</P>


Could you guys just say something interesting? It doesn't have to be about baseball.</P>


ANYTHING!!! I'M BEGGING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!</P>


Just please stop with the Friday Night Lights thing.</P>


Fnl was over hours ago--get with the cable programming discussion MH.
</P>


I think its over. I think Thee thread has run its glorious course.</P>


No more Lando's Dez hate and Morehead love.</P>


No more of Kase's late night drunken rants.</P>


No more Daven vs. the world.</P>


No more everyone trying to impress Blondie.</P>


Nomore silly points and leftism by Matt.</P>


No more Canuck jokes at Bandy's expense.</P>


No more our little Dez talking all Gangsta, even though he's whiter than Edgar Winter.</P>


No more Morehead arguments about dynasties and current champions.</P>


Its over!!!</P>


Its down to HBO series. We might as well be talking about this weeks "Young and the Restless" episodes. Why don't we just exchange recipes????</P>


<FONT size=6>Este hilo es muerte!!!!</FONT></P>


<FONT size=6></FONT></P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT size=5>It looks like were back!!!!!</FONT></P>

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 10:49 AM
I stand with our slightly burned commish.</P>




LMAO i just caught that
</P>


How about the mob that wanted to undo my trade with Shocks? Which was a good trade.</P>


Sometimes players have a reason to object to something if they think a rival has helped themselves. The commish has to sort through that.</P>


</P>


I still stand by my opinion that that trade was bad.
BUT, since neither of you won anything, clearly it had no impact on the way things turned out ;)</P>


</P>


Ronnie Brown and Santana Moss for Michael Bush and someone else.</P>


You all thought that Shocks got the worst of that trade and it turned out to be me.</P>

ibleedblue85
06-23-2011, 10:49 AM
I stand with our slightly burned commish.</P>




LMAO i just caught that
</P>


How about the mob that wanted to undo my trade with Shocks?* Which was a good trade.</P>


Sometimes players have a reason to object to something if they think a rival has helped themselves.* The commish has to sort through that.</P>


</P>


I still stand by my opinion that that trade was bad.
BUT, since neither of you won anything, clearly it had no impact on the way things turned out ;)</P>
i will never say there arent some really bad trades that take place in this league however many of you dont see the difference between bad and fair... thats where the problem lies.

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 10:50 AM
<FONT size=5>It looks like were back!!!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</P>


Have you ever been right?</P>

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 10:51 AM
moorehead i just listend to that tiki on francesa interview

ur a fool, bottom line.

I didn't realize u were just a tiki jock boy. I obviously hate Tiki and I dislike Mike. Obviously stronger feelings towards Tiki but Mike asked a straight ****ing question about tiki coming back to football because he loves it or because his broadcasting career was a failure. Tiki went off on a tangent about how it wasn't a failure

to this point and time there is debating the fact that Tiki has had a failed broadcasting career

and to respond to the same point i've seen u post throughout every tiki thread in TAGF, there is no disputing that Mike is one of the most successful sports guys of all time...

Regardless if he once upon a time got fired.

To date - Tiki has been a failure as a broadcaster and the NBC stint was def a failure...

how can u even debate that. It wasn't a sandbagging, he just didn't let Tiki bull**** his way through the question. ANd keeping the agent on the line def kept Mike amped
</p>


Don't be a ****head Matt, and read what I said.</p>


I have never been shy about expressing my view about how big an arrogant jackoff Tiki is. I thought he was a great football player and (when playing) a great Giant, but a jackoff non the less.</p>


My thread has nothing to do with my opinion of Tiki Barber, which remains low. It has everything to do with Mike Francessa.</p>


Mike's questions didn't bother me. His statements did.</p>


"You are a horrible broadcaster". "All the NBC guys told me you were terrible" to name a few.</p>


These are not questions or part of normal dialog. These are cheap shots. And when Tiki tried to defend himself (which we would all do) Mike interrupted and shouted "you got fired by NBC!" Of course Mike himself was fired from CBS for college basketball. Does getting fired mean that you are a terrible broadcaster? Mike thinks it does for Tiki but not for himself. Thats called hypocrisy.</p>


My point is that the hero worship going on here for Mike Francessa for doing exactly what we all hate about him, simply because its aimed at someone we dislike is also hypocrisy.</p>


Deal with it. And as you know I have no problem standing alone on this MB on principle. I won't join the mob here, just because I don't like Tiki.</p>


</p>i thought it was a very well done interview.
mike asked right off the bat are you still feeling down. he said no im feeling great........ok well hes not dealing with depression like he claimed. mike then asks do you regret retiring early, he says no, not at all, i had so many other things going on, i had no passion left for the game. mike then askes so why are you coming back, " its redemption for me and i need to be successful at something "and after trying to defend getting let go from nbc finally says"I MISS THE GAME." lol hes contradicting himself. mike got him. hook line and sinker.

mike was backing his statement up with facts. hes trying to get an answer and tiki wasnt answering it, its not "badgering", its mike show, answer the question or hang up. he wasnt a good journalist, FACT. he WAS a failure at nbc. FACT. they didnt resign his contract=getting fire or let go.FACT. listen again tiki was huffing and puffing the whole time. yea he was pushy with his questions, but he made tiki look even worse.

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 10:51 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!!


WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!Hey Amanda! How are you healing from the soup ordeal?&gt;


Healing slowly.... today is the first day im in alot less pain. still very sore but finally slept so i feel more rested. thanks for the love ny06 and pappy!!Good to hear. That's got to be one of the rules in the waiter's 101 handbook? Place very hot dishes on the table--DO NOT HAND TO PATRONS

Your sig you made for me is in safe keeping, currently-waiting for the lockout to be resolved for it's re-emergence. It's awesome!

bigblue4417
06-23-2011, 10:52 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?


Ending the lockout?

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:52 AM
I stand with our slightly burned commish.</p>




LMAO i just caught that
</p>


How about the mob that wanted to undo my trade with Shocks? Which was a good trade.</p>


Sometimes players have a reason to object to something if they think a rival has helped themselves. The commish has to sort through that.</p>

thats different. I dont mind a fair commish on those things...

but when it comes to rules for the year... that has to be in the majority


im not arguing with voting... i never have so i dont get what this is even about. i want ever player to have fun and enjoy the league there for majority vote on the rules is what it is. however pappy i will agree with you.. the commish's input may be needed in trading situations,ect and that should remain the same imho.

yea trading situations

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 10:54 AM
I don't want to talk trash


I want YOU to talk trash!!!</p>


</p>


lol...</p>


ok.</p>


**** Boston.</p>


LUNCH TIME!!!!</p>


</p>


Could you guys just say something interesting? It doesn't have to be about baseball.</p>


ANYTHING!!! I'M BEGGING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!</p>


Just please stop with the Friday Night Lights thing.</p>


Fnl was over hours ago--get with the cable programming discussion MH.
</p>


I think its over. I think Thee thread has run its glorious course.</p>


No more Lando's Dez hate and Morehead love.</p>


No more of Kase's late night drunken rants.</p>


No more Daven vs. the world.</p>


No more everyone trying to impress Blondie.</p>


Nomore silly points and leftism by Matt.</p>


No more Canuck jokes at Bandy's expense.</p>


No more our little Dez talking all Gangsta, even though he's whiter than Edgar Winter.</p>


No more Morehead arguments about dynasties and current champions.</p>


Its over!!!</p>


Its down to HBO series. We might as well be talking about this weeks "Young and the Restless" episodes. Why don't we just exchange recipes????</p>


<font size="6">Este hilo es muerte!!!!</font></p>


<font size="6"></font></p>


</p>


</p>


<font size="5">It looks like were back!!!!!</font></p>

i disagree about the canadians

the canuck jokes were ALWAYS on

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 10:54 AM
he kept saying nbc wasnt a failure, then goes there were failures along the way...

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 10:54 AM
I don't want to talk trash


I want YOU to talk trash!!!</p>


</p>


lol...</p>


ok.</p>


**** Boston.</p>


LUNCH TIME!!!!</p>


</p>


Could you guys just say something interesting? It doesn't have to be about baseball.</p>


ANYTHING!!! I'M BEGGING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!</p>


Just please stop with the Friday Night Lights thing.</p>


Fnl was over hours ago--get with the cable programming discussion MH.
</p>


I think its over. I think Thee thread has run its glorious course.</p>


No more Lando's Dez hate and Morehead love.</p>


No more of Kase's late night drunken rants.</p>


No more Daven vs. the world.</p>


No more everyone trying to impress Blondie.</p>


Nomore silly points and leftism by Matt.</p>


No more Canuck jokes at Bandy's expense.</p>


No more our little Dez talking all Gangsta, even though he's whiter than Edgar Winter.</p>


No more Morehead arguments about dynasties and current champions.</p>


Its over!!!</p>


Its down to HBO series. We might as well be talking about this weeks "Young and the Restless" episodes. Why don't we just exchange recipes????</p>


<font size="6">Este hilo es muerte!!!!</font></p>


<font size="6"></font></p>


</p>


</p>


<font size="5">It looks like were back!!!!!</font></p>^ That was a dark day for poor MH. Glad your optimistic about the future. [:D]

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 10:55 AM
<FONT size=5>It looks like were back!!!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</P>


Have you ever been right?</P>


</P>


It was my Karma that brought it back. I put it out there and they all returned. When Pizz is not controlling the conversation, this thread is great.</P>


Unless you think that discussions about random HBO series or whining about co workers are compelling.</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 10:55 AM
he kept saying nbc wasnt a failure, then goes there were failures along the way...
They caught your long Island pharmacy mass murderer....He killed 4 people Sunday AM while stealing oxy for his bride. Whew!!!! What's up with Long Island Dezzz?

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 10:55 AM
<font size="5">It looks like were back!!!!!</font></p>


</p>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</p>


Have you ever been right?</p>yea he was crying the other day. lol

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 10:56 AM
he kept saying nbc wasnt a failure, then goes there were failures along the way...
They caught your long Island pharmacy mass murderer....He killed 4 people Sunday AM while stealing oxy for his bride. Whew!!!! What's up with Long Island Dezzz?
i knew it was ox. H in a pill

bigblue4417
06-23-2011, 10:57 AM
soooo lets takl fantasy again

ME
Blondie
Pappy
Lando
Byron
Pizz
S&amp;A
Daven
Kase

New Guys:
Sharick
Lawl
NY06

On Deck:
LT

voting process we need:

-Flex or Standard

-How many roster spaces

- keeper or no keeper

-defensive scoring

-bonuses or no bonuses



anybody have anything else to add?



whoaa whoaa whoaaa buddy! when it comes to fantasy i do the talking around here!!!!!!!!!


WOOHOOO! IM BACKKKKKKKKKK!!! hello my loves, ohhhh how i missed you!

yea thats fine, just don't break down in tears again this year

"IF U GUYS DONT LIKE HOW I DO THINGS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE BE THE COMMISH"

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhifs6G9jZ1qci6sw.gif




<font size="6">LMAO!!!</font>

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 10:59 AM
<FONT size=5>It looks like were back!!!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</P>


Have you ever been right?</P>


</P>


It was my Karma that brought it back. I put it out there and they all returned. When Pizz is not controlling the conversation, this thread is great.</P>


Unless you think that discussions about random HBO series or whining about co workers are compelling.</P>


</P>


yea, it's too bad youre not a mod, and cant control what goes on, because your opinion on what goes on in the thread means **** to me. well...slightly above ****....but, still...

Am I typically a conformist? lol</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 11:00 AM
he kept saying nbc wasnt a failure, then goes there were failures along the way...
They caught your long Island pharmacy mass murderer....He killed 4 people Sunday AM while stealing oxy for his bride. Whew!!!! What's up with Long Island Dezzz?
i knew it was ox. H in a pill
Is that what it's like? All I know is people get in REALLY bad moods after they take that ****.

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 11:02 AM
<FONT size=5>It looks like were back!!!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</P>


Have you ever been right?</P>


</P>


It was my Karma that brought it back. I put it out there and they all returned. When Pizz is not controlling the conversation, this thread is great.</P>


Unless you think that discussions about random HBO series or whining about co workers are compelling.</P>


</P>


yea, it's too bad youre not a mod, and cant control what goes on, because your opinion on what goes on in the thread means **** to me. well...slightly above ****....but, still...

Am I typically a conformist? lol</P>


</P>


Thats better!</P>


At least your not talking about HBO soap operas.</P>


Give me Pizz the ****head any day over Pizz the HBO watcher.</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 11:03 AM
<font size="5">It looks like were back!!!!!</font></p>


</p>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</p>


Have you ever been right?</p>


</p>


It was my Karma that brought it back. I put it out there and they all returned. When Pizz is not controlling the conversation, this thread is great.</p>


Unless you think that discussions about random HBO series or whining about co workers are compelling.</p>


</p>


yea, it's too bad youre not a mod, and cant control what goes on, because your opinion on what goes on in the thread means **** to me. well...slightly above ****....but, still...

Am I typically a conformist? lol</p>Pizz is my boy! His conversation is just fine.

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 11:03 AM
<font size="5">It looks like were back!!!!!</font></p>


</p>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</p>


Have you ever been right?</p>


</p>


It was my Karma that brought it back. I put it out there and they all returned. When Pizz is not controlling the conversation, this thread is great.</p>


Unless you think that discussions about random HBO series or whining about co workers are compelling.</p>

or Buffy or Friday Night Ligts

and lets be honest about those TV shows, the movies sucked so why would the shows be good?

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 11:06 AM
Friday Night Ligts

and lets be honest about those TV shows, the movies sucked so why would the shows be good?
</P>


Miss your red text? Friday Night Lights; Great book, Great movie, and great series. To say otherwise means youre the clear minority in the country lol.

I can understand ppl not liking buffy obviously. I actually never saw that movie, but the show came out in middle school, and it was like the best thing on television back then lol.</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 11:07 AM
<font size="5">It looks like were back!!!!!</font></p>


</p>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</p>


Have you ever been right?</p>


</p>


It was my Karma that brought it back. I put it out there and they all returned. When Pizz is not controlling the conversation, this thread is great.</p>


Unless you think that discussions about random HBO series or whining about co workers are compelling.</p>

or Buffy or Friday Night Ligts

and lets be honest about those TV shows, the movies sucked so why would the shows be good?
FNL is the bomb and I suspect the reason for Jp's success with Fantasy Football.

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 11:07 AM
<FONT size=5>It looks like were back!!!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</P>


Have you ever been right?</P>


</P>


It was my Karma that brought it back. I put it out there and they all returned. When Pizz is not controlling the conversation, this thread is great.</P>


Unless you think that discussions about random HBO series or whining about co workers are compelling.</P>


</P>


yea, it's too bad youre not a mod, and cant control what goes on, because your opinion on what goes on in the thread means **** to me. well...slightly above ****....but, still...

Am I typically a conformist? lol</P>


Pizz is my boy! His conversation is just fine.
</P>


Trust me LT. 'Angry, mean spirited' Pizz is far more interesting.</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 11:08 AM
Friday Night Ligts

and lets be honest about those TV shows, the movies sucked so why would the shows be good?
</p>


Miss your red text? Friday Night Lights; Great book, Great movie, and great series. To say otherwise means youre the clear minority in the country lol.

I can understand ppl not liking buffy obviously. I actually never saw that movie, but the show came out in middle school, and it was like the best thing on television back then lol.</p>I can't believe the number of Sarah Michelle Gellar fans. She never did anything for me.

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 11:09 AM
Friday Night Ligts

and lets be honest about those TV shows, the movies sucked so why would the shows be good?
</P>


Miss your red text? Friday Night Lights; Great book, Great movie, and great series. To say otherwise means youre the clear minority in the country lol.

I can understand ppl not liking buffy obviously. I actually never saw that movie, but the show came out in middle school, and it was like the best thing on television back then lol.</P>


I can't believe the number of Sarah Michelle Gellar fans. She never did anything for me.
</P>


Ask Pizz about Taylor Swift.</P>

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 11:10 AM
Friday Night Ligts

and lets be honest about those TV shows, the movies sucked so why would the shows be good?
</p>


Miss your red text? Friday Night Lights; Great book, Great movie, and great series. To say otherwise means youre the clear minority in the country lol.

I can understand ppl not liking buffy obviously. I actually never saw that movie, but the show came out in middle school, and it was like the best thing on television back then lol.</p>

no red text

the movie was overrated and teh tv show is unbearable

MattMeyerBud
06-23-2011, 11:11 AM
Friday Night Ligts

and lets be honest about those TV shows, the movies sucked so why would the shows be good?
</p>


Miss your red text? Friday Night Lights; Great book, Great movie, and great series. To say otherwise means youre the clear minority in the country lol.

I can understand ppl not liking buffy obviously. I actually never saw that movie, but the show came out in middle school, and it was like the best thing on television back then lol.</p>I can't believe the number of Sarah Michelle Gellar fans. She never did anything for me.


she got me rockhard in that movie where she tried bangin her brother and she was a coke fiend... thats about it

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 11:13 AM
YOU WANT CONTROVERSYYYYY??!?!

Here ya go:
When discussing with friends, acquaintences, or even here on the boards about football movies. People bring up Rudy constantly.

Rudy is not a football movie.
Rudy is the most boring movie to ever even talk about football.
Rudy is an awful movie I will never waste another 2 hours of my life ever again on it.

To sum it up.....
Rudy is not a football movie, and I dont care how good of a movie people think it is.

There ya go!!

dezzzR
06-23-2011, 11:13 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">A
women asks "if I sleep with 3 men,everyone thinks/calls me a slut,but
when a man sleeps with 10 girls,everyone calls him a REAL man" how
come?...It's very simple WOMEN,when one lock can be opened by 3
different keys,it's a bad lock,But when one key can open 10 different
locks, it's called A MASTER KEY!</span></h6>

JPizzack
06-23-2011, 11:14 AM
she got me rockhard in that movie where she tried bangin her brother and she was a coke fiend... thats about it
</P>


lmao...yeaaaaa Cruel Intentions. She was ridiculously skanky in that movie. In other words: awesome.</P>

Morehead State
06-23-2011, 11:15 AM
YOU WANT CONTROVERSYYYYY??!?!

Here ya go:
When discussing with friends, acquaintences, or even here on the boards about football movies. People bring up Rudy constantly.

Rudy is not a football movie.
Rudy is the most boring movie to ever even talk about football.
Rudy is an awful movie I will never waste another 2 hours of my life ever again on it.

To sum it up.....
Rudy is not a football movie, and I dont care how good of a movie people think it is.

There ya go!!</P>


Giuliani played football?</P>

lttaylor56
06-23-2011, 11:15 AM
<font size="5">It looks like were back!!!!!</font></p>


</p>


OH WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT?!?!?!

ANOTHER MOREHEAD PREDICTION COMPLETELY WRONG!!!</p>


Have you ever been right?</p>


</p>


It was my Karma that brought it back. I put it out there and they all returned. When Pizz is not controlling the conversation, this thread is great.</p>


Unless you think that discussions about random HBO series or whining about co workers are compelling.</p>


</p>


yea, it's too bad youre not a mod, and cant control what goes on, because your opinion on what goes on in the thread means **** to me. well...slightly above ****....but, still...

Am I typically a conformist? lol</p>


Pizz is my boy! His conversation is just fine.
</p>


Trust me LT. 'Angry, mean spirited' Pizz is far more interesting.</p>It's not a bad thing, but I think you have the taste for the conflict. My wife and you would get along.