THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[Kase-1]

Turtle landed Meadow in real life!!!??

Get outta here....your ****ing w/ me right?


Nope
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Ferrara">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Ferrara</a>

DAMN!!!

Maybe I could step in as a stunt double.... Ive heard that I look like Turtle, well cept im not 5' nothing LOL

[Kase-1]

no ****, that means Lebron is one step closer to possibly living at the Mecca

The Big 3

The King, Curry, and Amare

Oh, a man can dream....


we'll know if Amare is coming or not by what we do with Lee

Can't have both? Amare at the center Lee at the PF, the King at SF, Curry at the two and PG in spots and then a PG to be named later?

And throw Krypto-Nate in the mix too

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

no ****, that means Lebron is one step closer to possibly living at the Mecca

The Big 3

The King, Curry, and Amare

Oh, a man can dream....


we'll know if Amare is coming or not by what we do with Lee

Can't have both? Amare at the center Lee at the PF, the King at SF, Curry at the two and PG in spots and then a PG to be named later?

And throw Krypto-Nate in the mix too


Oh yeah. Instant offense off the bench with Nate.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Oh BTW Kase, you didn't miss much today. Pretty slow day. Links to a couple of funny You Tube bits, but that was pretty much it.

[Kase-1]

Oh BTW Kase, you didn't miss much today. Pretty slow day. Links to a couple of funny You Tube bits, but that was pretty much it.

Good looks Young Homey

Aite time 2 bounce out, be back later 2nite....

[MattMeyerBud]

no ****, that means Lebron is one step closer to possibly living at the Mecca

The Big 3

The King, Curry, and Amare

Oh, a man can dream....


we'll know if Amare is coming or not by what we do with Lee

Can't have both? Amare at the center Lee at the PF, the King at SF, Curry at the two and PG in spots and then a PG to be named later?


i don't think with the d'antoni offense they are going to load up the cap with two power forwards. If they resign Nate and Lee to the contracts they are worth then there will only be money to sign one big name

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Alright guys, I'm gonna check out for now. Time for ATH and PTI. I love those shows.

Boring day today, hope tomorrow is better.

Peace

[bigblue4417]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.

[patsrule666]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</P>


Hi and BYE.....</P>

[bigblue4417]

LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>
http://steroids.ro/wp-content/themes/steroid/images/elite/playersmed.jpg

[DavenIII]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>


Hi and BYE.....</p>

LOL...but no, because he's then most likely get dumped by said first lay...or expect to have a relationship when she never intended too....which will bring up much discussion anyhow.

[ShockeyShow]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.



haha keep the wheels a movin'!

You said that AG made it to 700 in a couple of weeks? How the hell did they do that?

[bigblue4417]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.


You said that AG made it to 700 in a couple of weeks?

Please reread my previous statement. lol

[ShockeyShow]

nah i was referring to when we were talking about surpassing it earlier today. I coulda sworn someone said they had hundreds of pages within a couple weeks in that thread. Maybe it was LT, MMB or Amanda.


We need to think of something to get the masses in here. Maybe once we hit 1000 pages, everyone else will start posting in here as well.

[bigblue4417]

I like the family we have now.......

[ShockeyShow]

Very true.....quality. Plus it'll be much more satisfying being able to look back around SuperBowl at the thousands of pages and saying

We were one of the few who spammed the **** outta this thread![:D]

[ShockeyShow]

lol....Your pigeon video cracks me up every time I watch it

[bigblue4417]

lol....Your pigeon video cracks me up every time I watch it

Me to bro thanks. I don't have the heart to take him down.

[ShockeyShow]

alright....im gettin ready to head to the house. See ya'll in a bit.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Holy ****

Did you guys see that SICK catch by Joba to get the DP and get himself out of the jam?

LET'S GO YANKEES

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

I like the family we have now.......


Me too.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>


Hi and BYE.....</p>

LOL...but no, because he's then most likely get dumped by said first lay...or expect to have a relationship when she never intended too....which will bring up much discussion anyhow.


Nice to see ur looking at the glass half full as usual

[little blue]

Ya'll guys are funny as hell, i like reading you guysgo back &amp; forth i think if other people jump in it might mess up what ya'll got going.</P>

[Kase-1]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>


Hi and BYE.....</p>

LOL...but no, because he's then most likely get dumped by said first lay...or expect to have a relationship when she never intended too....which will bring up much discussion anyhow.


Nice to see ur looking at the glass half full as usual

LOL, he's a realist like myself.....

In most cases almost ALL of em, the 1st person you get with isnt gonna be your one and only, its just the facts homey

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>


Hi and BYE.....</p>

LOL...but no, because he's then most likely get dumped by said first lay...or expect to have a relationship when she never intended too....which will bring up much discussion anyhow.


Nice to see ur looking at the glass half full as usual

LOL, he's a realist like myself.....

In most cases almost ALL of em, the 1st person you get with isnt gonna be your one and only, its just the facts homey


Oh I know that. I never said one and only. But maybe a little thing for a little bit, no?

[Kase-1]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>


Hi and BYE.....</p>

LOL...but no, because he's then most likely get dumped by said first lay...or expect to have a relationship when she never intended too....which will bring up much discussion anyhow.


Nice to see ur looking at the glass half full as usual

LOL, he's a realist like myself.....

In most cases almost ALL of em, the 1st person you get with isnt gonna be your one and only, its just the facts homey


Oh I know that. I never said one and only. But maybe a little thing for a little bit, no?
Well that depends where you meet her......

I know im being blunt, but If you meet her at a sloppy basement kegger and you're both drunk and its 4am, most likely she just wants to get filled up, LOL

[ShockeyShow]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>


Hi and BYE.....</p>

LOL...but no, because he's then most likely get dumped by said first lay...or expect to have a relationship when she never intended too....which will bring up much discussion anyhow.


Nice to see ur looking at the glass half full as usual

LOL, he's a realist like myself.....

In most cases almost ALL of em, the 1st person you get with isnt gonna be your one and only, its just the facts homey


Oh I know that. I never said one and only. But maybe a little thing for a little bit, no?



LT my man....live it up, but don't get tied up. As they said ...its just the facts. Sad but true. And to be honest, you don't want to be tied to the same person as you go through college, you've got so much to experience and so much fun and trouble to get into.

Just live your life to the fullest amigo experience all that you can, and don't let any one person hold you back from doing so!

[ShockeyShow]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>


Hi and BYE.....</p>

LOL...but no, because he's then most likely get dumped by said first lay...or expect to have a relationship when she never intended too....which will bring up much discussion anyhow.


Nice to see ur looking at the glass half full as usual

LOL, he's a realist like myself.....

In most cases almost ALL of em, the 1st person you get with isnt gonna be your one and only, its just the facts homey


Oh I know that. I never said one and only. But maybe a little thing for a little bit, no?
Well that depends where you meet her......

I know im being blunt, but If you meet her at a sloppy basement kegger and you're both drunk and its 4am, most likely she just wants to get filled up, LOL



Exactly! And then you don't have to have any ties with her after that, unless of course she's worth keeping around..... then you'll be glad you only met her at a Toga party with only a few clothespins to unclip!


As the Dos Equis man says....."The after party is the one you want to attend"

[Kase-1]

AG has 3,157 pages. We have made it to 700 pages in 2 months. If this pace keeps up we will pass it in 8 months. Right around the time we win the Superbowl.
LT getting layed could seriously hamper such progress....</p>


Hi and BYE.....</p>

LOL...but no, because he's then most likely get dumped by said first lay...or expect to have a relationship when she never intended too....which will bring up much discussion anyhow.


Nice to see ur looking at the glass half full as usual

LOL, he's a realist like myself.....

In most cases almost ALL of em, the 1st person you get with isnt gonna be your one and only, its just the facts homey


Oh I know that. I never said one and only. But maybe a little thing for a little bit, no?
Well that depends where you meet her......

I know im being blunt, but If you meet her at a sloppy basement kegger and you're both drunk and its 4am, most likely she just wants to get filled up, LOL



Exactly! And then you don't have to have any ties with her after that, unless of course she's worth keeping around..... then you'll be glad you only met her at a Toga party with only a few clothespins to unclip!


As the Dos Equis man says....."The after party is the one you want to attend"

Word, its always nice to have a jumpoff ready 2 go at 4am..... But we've all gotten a feel for LT and that may corrupt him in a bad way for life, LOL

[bigblue4417]

But we've all gotten a feel for LT and that may corrupt him in a bad way for life, LOL

http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-19548487874996_2054_406943745.jpg

[ShockeyShow]

haha I know, but he's not going to remember any of this **** after 4-5 hours of keg stands and ice luges!

If there is any one true piece of advice to remember sober, buzzed, or completely shmammered:

DONT PUT THE ***** ON A PEDESTAL!

Be yourself and flirt with all of em!

[Kase-1]

But we've all gotten a feel for LT and that may corrupt him in a bad way for life, LOL

http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-19548487874996_2054_406943745.jpg
Hell some of us, like me u daven, MMB, Dezzy, and Amanda would corrupt him in a good way if he just left the safety and comfort of his college dorm room, LOL

[ShockeyShow]

But we've all gotten a feel for LT and that may corrupt him in a bad way for life, LOL

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/888/888816/rocknrolla-20080714063603214_640w.jpg



"Daddy was a bankrobber! But he never hurt noboodddddddy!"

[ShockeyShow]

But we've all gotten a feel for LT and that may corrupt him in a bad way for life, LOL

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/888/888816/rocknrolla-20080714063603214_640w.jpg



"Daddy was a bankrobber! But he never hurt noboodddddddy!"

[bigblue4417]

If there is any one true piece of advice to remember sober, buzzed, or completely shmammered:

DONT PUT THE ***** ON A PEDESTAL!

Be yourself and flirt with all of em!

NO NO NO, you got it all wrong bro. The number one piece of advise is.............

http://aleegold.com/trojan22count.jpg

<font size="6">WEAR A CONDOM</font>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

"Daddy was a bankrobber! But he never hurt noboodddddddy!"


I love that ****ing song. So great

[bigblue4417]

From 83 degrees and sunny to 62 and raining in less than 2 hours. Ladies and Gentlemen. SLC, UT!!!

[ShockeyShow]

I love the fact that he's got a .357 and a snub-nose .38

That'd be a helluva lotta recoil in each hand....but my lord could he do some damage.

[Kase-1]

haha I know, but he's not going to remember any of this **** after 4-5 hours of keg stands and ice luges!

If there is any one true piece of advice to remember sober, buzzed, or completely shmammered:

DONT PUT THE ***** ON A PEDESTAL!

Be yourself and flirt with all of em!

Preach my brotha!!!!

We're all people who do the same stuff and want the same things, its simple as that

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Be yourself and flirt with all of em!


Oh yeah. When I go to parties in the fall, I'm gonna make rounds and get numbers with a bunch of diff chics

[ShockeyShow]

If there is any one true piece of advice to remember sober, buzzed, or completely shmammered:

DONT PUT THE ***** ON A PEDESTAL!

Be yourself and flirt with all of em!

NO NO NO, you got it all wrong bro. The number one piece of advise is.............

http://aleegold.com/trojan22count.jpg

<font size="6">WEAR A CONDOM</font>



touché my friend <font face="Times New Roman">touché.


</font>

[bigblue4417]

I'm gonna make rounds and get numbers with a bunch of diff dudes

http://hem.passagen.se/zabci/images/Gang_bang.GIF

I still love you no matter what you choose LT. You are a great person bro.

[Kase-1]

If there is any one true piece of advice to remember sober, buzzed, or completely shmammered:

DONT PUT THE ***** ON A PEDESTAL!

Be yourself and flirt with all of em!

NO NO NO, you got it all wrong bro. The number one piece of advise is.............

http://aleegold.com/trojan22count.jpg

<font size="6">WEAR A CONDOM</font>
The j, the i, the m, the m

The y, the j, the i, the m

It's jimmy!

It's jimmy! x2



Here is a message to the super-hoes

Just keep in mind when jimmy grows

It grows and grows and grows, so let it

But keep in mind about the epidemic

When jimmy releases, boy it pleases

But what do you do about all these diseases?

Jimmy is jimmy, no matter what

So take care of jimmy cos you know what's up

Cos now in winter aids attacks

So run out and get your jimmy hats

It costs so little for a pack of three

They're jimmy hats for the winter attack

Good for a present, great for lovers

Demonstrated by the jungle brothers

Protect your jimmy and keep it fresh

They're jimmy hats by krs



The j, the i, the m, the m


The y, the j, the i, the m


It's jimmy!


It's jimmy!


So, remember you're never too old (jimmy is wearin' a hat)



Remember you're never too bold (jimmy is wearin' a hat)

Do me a favour, wear your hat

So jimmy...will have the opportunity to come back



Well, red alert is down with bdp

Teachin' you all about jimbrowski

I don't wanna hear that you're not with it

Turn around and see your butt in a clinic

Havin' doctors just poke at jimmy

Let me express what now what's in me

Too many people take too many risks

Too many people I see get dissed

Jimmy hats are now in style

Cos you can't trust a big butt and a smile

Some are dry and some lubricated

Many companies make and made it

So all you super-hoes, wear your hat

Cos drippin' jimmies is straight up wack

Keep in mind about jimbrowski

Jimmy hats by BDP!!!



The j, the i, the m

The m, the y, the j, the i...

It's jimmy!

It's jimmy!

The j, the i, the m, the m

The y, the j, the i, the m

It's jimmy!"

'Jimmy' by Boogie Down Productions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8O6qU6amc)

[bigblue4417]

touché my friend <font face="Times New Roman">touché.</font>
A baby is worse than any STD except HIV I guess. lol

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

I'm gonna make rounds and get numbers with a bunch of diff dudes

http://hem.passagen.se/zabci/images/Gang_bang.GIF

I still love you no matter what you choose LT. You are a great person bro.


LOL

[bigblue4417]

LOL

I am still laughing. God I crack myself up. It is important to make yourself laugh LT. Even if it is at the expense of others.

[ShockeyShow]

Be yourself and flirt with all of em!


Oh yeah. When I go to parties in the fall, I'm gonna make rounds and get numbers with a bunch of diff chics



Hell yea, it's all about confidence! The more you talk to, the better your chances and more options will present themselves

You meet one sorority girl and you'll know 10 more girls by the end of the night.

You just gotta play your odds!

[bigblue4417]

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa218/chloe2276/pimp.jpg

[ShockeyShow]

I'm gonna make rounds and get numbers with a bunch of diff dudes

http://hem.passagen.se/zabci/images/Gang_bang.GIF

I still love you no matter what you choose LT. You are a great person bro.



lmaooo....i knew it was coming, it was only a matter of time.

[bigblue4417]

You meet one sorority girl and you'll know 10 more girls by the end of the night.
http://staycspits.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/22024ypimp-tom-pimp-posters.jpg

[bigblue4417]

LT in summer of 2010 after the Knicks get Lebron......

http://www.motheringhut.com/transfer/songalia_pimp.jpg

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Hell yea, it's all about confidence! The more you talk to, the better your chances and more options will present themselves




That's exactly my mindset. Meet a bunch of girls and then try my luck and see what happens.

My best friend at college is like one of the most popular kids and knows a bunch of people, so that's always a plus [Y]

[ShockeyShow]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aceandvis/snoop_dogg.jpg

If they get Ricky Rubio and Amare to go with him.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

If they get Ricky Rubio and Amare to go with him.


If they get Ricky Rubio, Amare, and LeBron in 2010, I will call my girlfriend that I will meet next year in college, and take her shopping, let her spend a bunch of money, take her to see a movie and buy expensive popcorn and soda combos and just completely lose my mind.

If the Knicks get Rubio this year, and then Bron and Amare in 2010, with Steve Nash to mentor Rubio, I will officially lose my mind and become insane.

[Kase-1]

If they get Ricky Rubio and Amare to go with him.


If they get Ricky Rubio, Amare, and LeBron in 2010, I will call my girlfriend that I will meet next year in college, and take her shopping, let her spend a bunch of money, take her to see a movie and buy expensive popcorn and soda combos and just completely lose my mind.

If the Knicks get Rubio this year, and then Bron and Amare in 2010, with Steve Nash to mentor Rubio, I will officially lose my mind and become insane.

Tisk Tisk, LT at this age you should be bringing alcohol into the movies...... or a big fat Bambu like ya boy Kase-1, LOL

If the Knicks got Amare and Bron Id lose my friggin gord!!!

[ShockeyShow]

Is anyone watching this Family Guy on Adullt Swim right now?


This is by far one of the best episodes I've ever seen

Satire on stephen king novels and the Shawshank redemption....LMAO

this **** is priceless.

[Kase-1]

Is anyone watching this Family Guy on Adullt Swim right now?


This is by far one of the best episodes I've ever seen

Satire on stephen king novels and the Shawshank redemption....LMAO

this **** is priceless.
I only saw the Shawshank part, but hell yea def a funny episode

[ShockeyShow]

Is anyone watching this Family Guy on Adullt Swim right now?


This is by far one of the best episodes I've ever seen

Satire on stephen king novels and the Shawshank redemption....LMAO

this **** is priceless.
I only saw the Shawshank part, but hell yea def a funny episode



He busts the pipe to the clapping part of the "Friends" theme song lololol

It doesn't get any better than that.

[ShockeyShow]

Hahahhaha the static onesie episode is on.


I lied.....It does get better!

[ShockeyShow]

"hehehe"
"Peter I know your in here"
"Heheheh, yes I am Lois......but where!?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IQ9mpFZz9c&amp;feature=related


ROFL

[Kase-1]

"hehehe"
"Peter I know your in here"
"Heheheh, yes I am Lois......but where!?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IQ9mpFZz9c&amp;feature=related


ROFL
Hey Peter remember what we said when we first got married
"I WONDER WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE A BEAR!!!!"

[Kase-1]

Is anyone watching this Family Guy on Adullt Swim right now?


This is by far one of the best episodes I've ever seen

Satire on stephen king novels and the Shawshank redemption....LMAO

this **** is priceless.
I only saw the Shawshank part, but hell yea def a funny episode



He busts the pipe to the clapping part of the "Friends" theme song lololol

It doesn't get any better than that.
I literally spit water out when he did that...

"Ohhhh Diamond Jim Brady has a discover card, theyre in an exclusive club called anybody"
'Id rather take 2 live chickens than your credit card, id rather take a jug full of pennies for the amount rather than your credit card'

[ShockeyShow]

Is anyone watching this Family Guy on Adullt Swim right now?


This is by far one of the best episodes I've ever seen

Satire on stephen king novels and the Shawshank redemption....LMAO

this **** is priceless.
I only saw the Shawshank part, but hell yea def a funny episode



He busts the pipe to the clapping part of the "Friends" theme song lololol

It doesn't get any better than that.
I literally spit water out when he did that...

"Ohhhh Diamond Jim Brady has a discover card, theyre in an exclusive club called anybody"
'Id rather take 2 live chickens than your credit card, id rather take a jug full of pennies for the amount rather than your credit card'



Hey Kase,

New season of Weeds starts next Monday on Showtime. You watch that show?

[romohater]

Is anyone watching this Family Guy on Adullt Swim right now?


This is by far one of the best episodes I've ever seen

Satire on stephen king novels and the Shawshank redemption....LMAO

this **** is priceless.
I only saw the Shawshank part, but hell yea def a funny episode



He busts the pipe to the clapping part of the "Friends" theme song lololol

It doesn't get any better than that.
</P>


Yeah I lost it on that one too. The episode from a few weeks ago with the chic from "The Hills" was an instant classic also.</P>

[ShockeyShow]

Is anyone watching this Family Guy on Adullt Swim right now?


This is by far one of the best episodes I've ever seen

Satire on stephen king novels and the Shawshank redemption....LMAO

this **** is priceless.
I only saw the Shawshank part, but hell yea def a funny episode



He busts the pipe to the clapping part of the "Friends" theme song lololol

It doesn't get any better than that.
</p>


Yeah I lost it on that one too. The episode from a few weeks ago with the chic from "The Hills" was an instant classic also.</p>


haha yea that was awesome. They did all those bits with the late night hosts....classic. They are starting to get really creative. I love it.

[ShockeyShow]

goodnigggghhhhhhht Neverland!

[MattMeyerBud]

morning.... got a qoute from Amare Stoudamire about Chris bosh and the Knicks



ESPN (New York) Radio's Brandon Tierney had Amare Stoudemire on this morning and reiterated remarks about his desire to play for Mike D'Antoni in 2010 while boasting about being better than Chris Bosh. Stoudemire told The Post similar stuff during All-Star Weekend.
When asked Stoudemire if he's better than Bosh, the Suns forward said, "Oooh man, are you kidding me? Ask Chris Bosh that question."

So that's a yes?

"No doubt about it, I'm better than Chris Bosh"

"How serious will you consider the New York Knicks in 2010"?

"I will be totally serious about that, I spent a lot of my childhood there, I have a connection with the state, and I also love the entire coaching staff.

" I think Coach D'Antoni's doing a phenomenal job with the Knicks, NY's a great city, I follow them closely." -- New York Post

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

morning.... got a qoute from Amare Stoudamire about Chris bosh and the Knicks



ESPN (New York) Radio's Brandon Tierney had Amare Stoudemire on this morning and reiterated remarks about his desire to play for Mike D'Antoni in 2010 while boasting about being better than Chris Bosh. Stoudemire told The Post similar stuff during All-Star Weekend.
When asked Stoudemire if he's better than Bosh, the Suns forward said, "Oooh man, are you kidding me? Ask Chris Bosh that question."

So that's a yes?

"No doubt about it, I'm better than Chris Bosh"

"How serious will you consider the New York Knicks in 2010"?

"I will be totally serious about that, I spent a lot of my childhood there, I have a connection with the state, and I also love the entire coaching staff.

" I think Coach D'Antoni's doing a phenomenal job with the Knicks, NY's a great city, I follow them closely." -- New York Post

Morning Matt. Yeah I saw that. That is awesome. I really hope we can get him to go along with Bron in 2010. And if there is any way to get Rubio in the draft this year, I want them to do it. He is a good PG and you need a good PG to be successful in today's NBA.

Oh yeah, you're free from the sig bet? Tell me buddy... does it feel nice to be able to change ur sig whenever you please?

[MattMeyerBud]

feels glorious... man im glad i didn't make a dumbass bet like that for 6 months lol

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

feels glorious... man im glad i didn't make a dumbass bet like that for 6 months lol

I was confident in my team. Damn bats decided to take Sunday off

[Kase-1]

Whats good people, everyone have an eventful weekend?????

[bigblue4417]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0530/nba_g_kobedwight_576.jpg

<font size="5">The Black Mamba killed Superman</font>

[bigblue4417]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/scott_howard-cooper/06/01/finals.storylines/andrew-bynum-dwight-howard.jpg

[ibleedblue85]

morning friends.</P>


MMB rott in hell with the sig and avatar.</P>

[bigblue4417]

<font size="6">MMB rott in hell </font>
</p>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

morning friends.</p>


MMB rott in hell with the sig and avatar.</p>

Goooooood morning.... how are you doing?

[DavenIII]

Morning

[MattMeyerBud]

morning friends.</P>


MMB rott in hell with the sig and avatar.</P>

well i hope ur having a wonderful morning as well

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

http://roflr***i.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/celebrity-pictures-liv-tyler-mothers-face.jpg

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[MattMeyerBud]

<font size="6">MMB I NEED YOUR SEXY BODY </font>
</p>

well what baby wants, baby gets




http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/mmb.gif

[MattMeyerBud]

http://roflr***i.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/celebrity-pictures-liv-tyler-mothers-face.jpg

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


yea but she has her daddys mouth

[ibleedblue85]

<FONT size=6>MMB I NEED YOUR SEXY BODY </FONT>
</P>


well what baby wants, baby gets http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/mmb.gif</P>


ohh why thanks lover, arent you a sweetheart!</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

i'm here to serve u sweetlips

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!

[DavenIII]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.

[MattMeyerBud]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/images/hogtie_edited.jpg

[ibleedblue85]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!
</P>


if you ask one more time then you will have that up until october. so dont test me buddy...</P>

[Kase-1]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!
Dude, you having MMB's Calendar is about a BAZILLION Times Gayer than your current sig

[Kase-1]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!
</p>


if you ask one more time then you will have that up until october. so dont test me buddy...</p>
LOL, you know thats what he WANTS as his sig rite.......

[Kase-1]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/images/hogtie_edited.jpg
LOL, so THATS how MMB woo's his dates, LOL

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!
</p>


if you ask one more time then you will have that up until october. so dont test me buddy...</p>
LOL, you know thats what he WANTS as his sig rite.......


http://www.nyc.gov/html/sports/gif/yankeeswinsmall.gif

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that

[Kase-1]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that
So then howd the lady hunting go on Sunday?????

[MattMeyerBud]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/images/hogtie_edited.jpg
LOL, so THATS how MMB woo's his dates, LOL


yea. I hog tie em, inject them with heroin, then have my way

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that
So then howd the lady hunting go on Sunday?????


There weren't any. It was just his family there. But I'm considered a family member to him because the two of us go way back. Still had a good time tho.

[bigblue4417]

So then howd the lady hunting go on Sunday?????

http://www.arizonabiggamehunting.com/images/lady_elk.jpg

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/images/hogtie_edited.jpg
LOL, so THATS how MMB woo's his dates, LOL


yea. I hog tie em, inject them with heroin, then have my way

A MMB date is like going to BK... you have it ur way

[MattMeyerBud]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/images/hogtie_edited.jpg
LOL, so THATS how MMB woo's his dates, LOL


yea. I hog tie em, inject them with heroin, then have my way

A MMB date is like going to BK... you have it ur way


ur not gettin the luxory of the heroin LT....

[Kase-1]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/images/hogtie_edited.jpg
LOL, so THATS how MMB woo's his dates, LOL


yea. I hog tie em, inject them with heroin, then have my way
See I find it easier to hog tie AFTER theyre doped up on the devil, LOL

[MattMeyerBud]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/images/hogtie_edited.jpg
LOL, so THATS how MMB woo's his dates, LOL


yea. I hog tie em, inject them with heroin, then have my way
See I find it easier to hog tie AFTER theyre doped up on the devil, LOL


::taking notes::

[Kase-1]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that
So then howd the lady hunting go on Sunday?????


There weren't any. It was just his family there. But I'm considered a family member to him because the two of us go way back. Still had a good time tho.

BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

'They were saying Boo-URNS, Boo-URNS!!'
http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:WImTMSoaLebNRM:http://www.harlemfur.com/images/Boourns.JPG (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.harlemfur.com/images/Boourns.JPG&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.harlemfur.com/2007/08/&amp;usg=__tQJ2lWH-3wG8i6lBagghpNRArhE=&amp;h=304&amp;w=434&amp;sz=28&amp;hl=en&amp;start =1&amp;tbnid=WImTMSoaLebNRM:&amp;tbnh=88&amp;tbnw=126&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dboo%2Burns%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den)

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that
So then howd the lady hunting go on Sunday?????


There weren't any. It was just his family there. But I'm considered a family member to him because the two of us go way back. Still had a good time tho.

BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

'They were saying Boo-URNS, Boo-URNS!!'
http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:WImTMSoaLebNRM:http://www.harlemfur.com/images/Boourns.JPG (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.harlemfur.com/images/Boourns.JPG&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.harlemfur.com/2007/08/&amp;usg=__tQJ2lWH-3wG8i6lBagghpNRArhE=&amp;h=304&amp;w=434&amp;sz=28&amp;hl=en&amp;start =1&amp;tbnid=WImTMSoaLebNRM:&amp;tbnh=88&amp;tbnw=126&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dboo%2Burns%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den)


LOL... Can't wait for the fall semester to start tho.... gonna get out and meet new people

[MattMeyerBud]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that
So then howd the lady hunting go on Sunday?????


There weren't any. It was just his family there. But I'm considered a family member to him because the two of us go way back. Still had a good time tho.

BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

'They were saying Boo-URNS, Boo-URNS!!'
http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:WImTMSoaLebNRM:http://www.harlemfur.com/images/Boourns.JPG (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.harlemfur.com/images/Boourns.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.harlemfur.com/2007/08/&usg=__tQJ2lWH-3wG8i6lBagghpNRArhE=&h=304&w=434&sz=28&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=WImTMSoaLebNRM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dboo%2Burns%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den)


LOL... Can't wait for the fall semester to start tho.... gonna get out and get some poon



atta boy LT, atta boy

[Kase-1]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that
So then howd the lady hunting go on Sunday?????


There weren't any. It was just his family there. But I'm considered a family member to him because the two of us go way back. Still had a good time tho.

BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

'They were saying Boo-URNS, Boo-URNS!!'
http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:WImTMSoaLebNRM:http://www.harlemfur.com/images/Boourns.JPG (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.harlemfur.com/images/Boourns.JPG&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.harlemfur.com/2007/08/&amp;usg=__tQJ2lWH-3wG8i6lBagghpNRArhE=&amp;h=304&amp;w=434&amp;sz=28&amp;hl=en&amp;start =1&amp;tbnid=WImTMSoaLebNRM:&amp;tbnh=88&amp;tbnw=126&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dboo%2Burns%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den)


LOL... Can't wait for the fall semester to start tho.... gonna get out and get some poon



atta boy LT, atta boy
Forgive me if im wrong, the spring semester JUST ended and kid is wanting the Fall Semester 2 start?!?!?!?

Theres a HUGE gap of hot weather and scantily clad ladies called THE MOTHALOVIN SUMMER!!!!! Dude you live in DE, I heard that Ocean City MD is a pretty happenin spot for sloshed times and random hookups.......

[DavenIII]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that


I guarantee I could have gotten you some play at least LT, was hanging out from Thursday to Sunday night with 3-24 year old girls and 2 21 year old girls and 3 guys and myself the 2 21 year olds had their own Tent set up as well...2 girls were from Camden NJ though, the interaction between you and some girls from Camden would have been great.

you definently could have hooked up with one of the girls for sure though....lotta Beer Pong (beruit) me and one of the girls ran that table all night long 3 nights in a row :P and I'm not even good at beer pong imho.

even if you didn't want to hook up with any of the girls there because of your shyness you could have at least seen some tities cause there were trucks riding around with girls on the back all over the place...and Bubba's Bar and Gril right next to the casino had a Lingerie/Bikini contest that just turned into a strip club later that night on Thursday and Saturday nights.

I hope you had fun working and going to a friends Grad party though........

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

[Kase-1]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that


I guarantee I could have gotten you some play at least LT, was hanging out from Thursday to Sunday night with 3-24 year old girls and 2 21 year old girls and 3 guys and myself the 2 21 year olds had their own Tent set up as well...2 girls were from Camden NJ though, the interaction between you and some girls from Camden would have been great.

you definently could have hooked up with one of the girls for sure though....lotta Beer Pong (beruit) me and one of the girls ran that table all night long 3 nights in a row :P and I'm not even good at beer pong imho.

even if you didn't want to hook up with any of the girls there because of your shyness you could have at least seen some tities cause there were trucks riding around with girls on the back all over the place...and Bubba's Bar and Gril right next to the casino had a Lingerie/Bikini contest that just turned into a strip club later that night on Thursday and Saturday nights.

I hope you had fun working and going to a friends Grad party though........

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.
I prolly dislike NASCAR more than anyone on the face of the earth, but that sounds like a DAMN GOOD TIME!!!!!

BLT, you DEF shoulda rolled through ONE of those days

[Morehead State]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that


I guarantee I could have gotten you some play at least LT, was hanging out from Thursday to Sunday night with 3-24 year old girls and 2 21 year old girls and 3 guys and myself the 2 21 year olds had their own Tent set up as well...2 girls were from Camden NJ though, the interaction between you and some girls from Camden would have been great.

you definently could have hooked up with one of the girls for sure though....lotta Beer Pong (beruit) me and one of the girls ran that table all night long 3 nights in a row :P and I'm not even good at beer pong imho.

even if you didn't want to hook up with any of the girls there because of your shyness you could have at least seen some tities cause there were trucks riding around with girls on the back all over the place...and Bubba's Bar and Gril right next to the casino had a Lingerie/Bikini contest that just turned into a strip club later that night on Thursday and Saturday nights.

I hope you had fun working and going to a friends Grad party though........

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.
</P>


AMANDA, </P>


This is what LT will become without your help. He already sent me a multi paragragh reply in the Yankee thread.</P>


Do you want this on your hands? Do the right thing.</P>


Free LT!</P>

[bigblue4417]

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

That was a nice race for the last 20 laps. I can't believe Jimmy came back like that.

[Kase-1]

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

That was a nice race for the last 20 laps. I can't believe Jimmy came back like that.
WOW Lando, I had no idea you were a NASCAR head...

[dezzzR]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!
http://www.lookydaddy.com/weblog/images/hogtie_edited.jpg
LOL, so THATS how MMB woo's his dates, LOL
yea. I hog tie em, inject them with heroin, then have my way

A MMB date is like going to BK... you have it ur way
ur not gettin the luxory of the heroin LT....</P>


ouuuu baaaby i like it raaaAAAw.....</P>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Can I make the calendar my sig again? Please.... anything but this!!!


why don't you like your new sig LT? It's perfect. it's you.

By the way you missed a great weekend in dover, you should have came down.


Eh... I won't lose any sleep over it.... I had to work on Saturday and then Sunday was my best friend's graduation party so I went to that


I guarantee I could have gotten you some play at least LT, was hanging out from Thursday to Sunday night with 3-24 year old girls and 2 21 year old girls and 3 guys and myself the 2 21 year olds had their own Tent set up as well...2 girls were from Camden NJ though, the interaction between you and some girls from Camden would have been great.

you definently could have hooked up with one of the girls for sure though....lotta Beer Pong (beruit) me and one of the girls ran that table all night long 3 nights in a row :P and I'm not even good at beer pong imho.

even if you didn't want to hook up with any of the girls there because of your shyness you could have at least seen some tities cause there were trucks riding around with girls on the back all over the place...and Bubba's Bar and Gril right next to the casino had a Lingerie/Bikini contest that just turned into a strip club later that night on Thursday and Saturday nights.

I hope you had fun working and going to a friends Grad party though........

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.
</p>


AMANDA, </p>


This is what LT will become without your help. He already sent me a multi paragragh reply in the Yankee thread.</p>


Do you want this on your hands? Do the right thing.</p>


Free LT!</p>

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[DavenIII]

I prolly dislike NASCAR more than anyone on the face of the earth, but that sounds like a DAMN GOOD TIME!!!!!

BLT, you DEF shoulda rolled through ONE of those days


tell you the truth, the guys and the 24 yo girls didn't even go to the race, they came down with a camper and were setup behind us but never went, the 2 21yo girls ended up sitting next to me in our extra seats up in turn 3....it was their first race they were funny...she was trying to video tap an accident with her phone and kept asking when it was gonna happen...I was like...I can't TELL you when its gonna happen its an Accident! so she'd video tap like 15 laps here or there was funny ****...got burnt up a bit though was hot out there in the stand.

LOTTA Philly and Cowboys fans...which made for some lively conversations.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

That was a nice race for the last 20 laps. I can't believe Jimmy came back like that.


You watch NASCAR? That **** puts me to sleep

[dezzzR]

when the **** did we get up to 700 pages?!</P>

[bigblue4417]

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

That was a nice race for the last 20 laps. I can't believe Jimmy came back like that.
WOW Lando, I had no idea you were a NASCAR head...

I am not really a HUGE fan. I know the drivers and stuff. I just like watching the last 50 laps or so. It gets intense there so I enjoy that.

[DavenIII]

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

That was a nice race for the last 20 laps. I can't believe Jimmy came back like that.


Oh I knew he was gonna, he was the only one that took 4 tires and he was just so fast the entire race...was getting to a 4-5 car length lead in 30-35 seconds after a restart...that's unheard of.

I'm impressed Tony held him off for as long as he did.

[Kase-1]

I prolly dislike NASCAR more than anyone on the face of the earth, but that sounds like a DAMN GOOD TIME!!!!!

BLT, you DEF shoulda rolled through ONE of those days


tell you the truth, the guys and the 24 yo girls didn't even go to the race, they came down with a camper and were setup behind us but never went, the 2 21yo girls ended up sitting next to me in our extra seats up in turn 3....it was their first race they were funny...she was trying to video tap an accident with her phone and kept asking when it was gonna happen...I was like...I can't TELL you when its gonna happen its an Accident! so she'd video tap like 15 laps here or there was funny ****...got burnt up a bit though was hot out there in the stand.

LOTTA Philly and Cowboys fans...which made for some lively conversations.

Word, do alotta people just come down and party like that w/o goin 2 the race???

Suprised you didnt see a bunch of skins fans there as well

[DavenIII]

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

That was a nice race for the last 20 laps. I can't believe Jimmy came back like that.
WOW Lando, I had no idea you were a NASCAR head...

I am not really a HUGE fan. I know the drivers and stuff. I just like watching the last 50 laps or so. It gets intense there so I enjoy that.


yeah the first 350 weren't that great this year...I'm going again in Sept though...LT better be down that time...I mean he's right there and its free for him.

[DavenIII]

Word, do alotta people just come down and party like that w/o goin 2 the race???

definitely.


Suprised you didnt see a bunch of skins fans there as well


I didn't even see one [:P]

[bigblue4417]

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

That was a nice race for the last 20 laps. I can't believe Jimmy came back like that.


Oh I knew he was gonna, he was the only one that took 4 tires and he was just so fast the entire race...was getting to a 4-5 car length lead in 30-35 seconds after a restart...that's unheard of.

I'm impressed Tony held him off for as long as he did.

It was cool. I like him. I have 2 good friends who love Jimmy like we love the Giants so I follow him.

[DavenIII]

It was cool. I like him. I have 2 good friends who love Jimmy like we love the Giants so I follow him.


I don't really like him, but I clapped as he was doing his victory laps because he really did race well so you can't hate the guy....the only guys I hate are the Busch Babies, My Drivers are Harvick/Biffle/Truex/Jr. I don't mind Tony either would have liked to have seen him win but he took the points lead anyhow so that's good.

we ended up having an extra unused ticket it, you shoulda come too..I never liked Nascar at all until I went in to watch a race live...totally different experience.

[patsrule666]

I had you covered this weekend if you showed up.

That was a nice race for the last 20 laps. I can't believe Jimmy came back like that.


Oh I knew he was gonna, he was the only one that took 4 tires and he was just so fast the entire race...was getting to a 4-5 car length lead in 30-35 seconds after a restart...that's unheard of.

I'm impressed Tony held him off for as long as he did.

It was cool. I like him. I have 2 good friends who love Jimmy like we love the Giants so I follow him.
A Jimmy Jerk fest..Great..lol.</P>


**** Tony Stupid...Johnson shoulda wrecked his ***...</P>


Let me just say this, the Modifieds run 100 more horsepower than the Nascars..The way these guys push each other into the corners is crazy...Modifieds at NHMS is the best race of the year..</P>


The party??? Everybody needs to spend a weekend at the track..Even if you never make it into the track...</P>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

When my family first moved down here and I found out that NASCAR was the big sport down here, I decided to watch the Daytona race in Feb to see what it was like.

I think I honestly fell asleep during the race. I just couldn't get into it at all....

[MattMeyerBud]

this thread has hit rock bottom

first u say u go to nascar only to party...

now look at what you've become!

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

this thread has hit rock bottom

first u say u go to nascar only to party...

now look at what you've become!

Who are you talking to?

[MattMeyerBud]

this thread has hit rock bottom

first u say u go to nascar only to party...

now look at what you've become!

Who are you talking to?


daven.. i mentioned partying, u know that wasn't for u

[Kase-1]

this thread has hit rock bottom

first u say u go to nascar only to party...

now look at what you've become!

Who are you talking to?


daven.. i mentioned partying, u know that wasn't for u
LOL, we all know this thread has hit a new low when NASCAR is the hot topic....

[DavenIII]

this thread has hit rock bottom

first u say u go to nascar only to party...

now look at what you've become!

Who are you talking to?


daven.. i mentioned partying, u know that wasn't for u

ROFL...

But no I never said "I" went there only to party...but since LT is being all whiny about something he knows nothing about and saying it puts him to sleep I said that HE should come just for the party...like our camping neighbors did...alot of people do come purely for the party...I'm not a "HUGE" nascar fan, infact I rarely watch it on sundays...maybe the last 50 laps or the highlights like Landon, but if I'm going to a race I go to the Cup race at least...at worst I get to work on my tan [:P] and its not like I'm not bringing in a 12 pack with me for the 3 hour race.

[DavenIII]

this thread has hit rock bottom

first u say u go to nascar only to party...

now look at what you've become!

Who are you talking to?


daven.. i mentioned partying, u know that wasn't for u
LOL, we all know this thread has hit a new low when NASCAR is the hot topic....


you know, it can be pretty damn exciting sometimes, there is a reason its the second most popular sport in America.

but anyhow, I was there from Thursday night till Monday Morning and spent 3 hours in the track and maybe 10-12 hours sleeping the whole weekend the rest of it was parties...so yeah...what do you think the major part of the trip was.

[Kase-1]

this thread has hit rock bottom

first u say u go to nascar only to party...

now look at what you've become!

Who are you talking to?


daven.. i mentioned partying, u know that wasn't for u
LOL, we all know this thread has hit a new low when NASCAR is the hot topic....


you know, it can be pretty damn exciting sometimes, there is a reason its the second most popular sport in America.
2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???

[ibleedblue85]

this thread sucks today.

[Kase-1]

this thread sucks today.
The MBs have blown hardcore the last few days

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

this thread sucks today.

Yankee thread is pretty good tho lol

[DavenIII]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or other major cities.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or major cities.


I was watching Around the Horn yesterday and they had a story that attendance for the races are down and TV ratings are declining. I think now the sport's gonna go through a little rough period.

[DavenIII]

this thread sucks today.
The MBs have blown hardcore the last few days


Sorry...I've been away since Thursday...just got back and have been busy at work yesterday...it'll get back as soon as I have more time [:P]

[DavenIII]

I was watching Around the Horn yesterday and they had a story that attendance for the races are down and TV ratings are declining. I think now the sport's gonna go through a little rough period.


Yup, it is, and yet its still FAR more popular then Baseball or Basketball.

[MattMeyerBud]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or other major cities.


those numbers are twisted...

40 events total?

thats three nfl teams full seasons....

u can't compare that to the NFL

[MattMeyerBud]

I was watching Around the Horn yesterday and they had a story that attendance for the races are down and TV ratings are declining. I think now the sport's gonna go through a little rough period.


Yup, it is, and yet its still FAR more popular then Baseball or Basketball.


how are u judging that?

[Morehead State]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or other major cities.
those numbers are twisted... 40 events total? thats three nfl teams full seasons.... u can't compare that to the NFL</P>


Don't kid yourself, NASCAR is friggin huge.</P>

[patsrule666]

this thread has hit rock bottom first u say u go to nascar only to party... now look at what you've become!

Who are you talking to?
daven.. i mentioned partying, u know that wasn't for u

ROFL...

But no I never said "I" went there only to party...but since LT is being all whiny about something he knows nothing about and saying it puts him to sleep I said that HE should come just for the party...like our camping neighbors did...alot of people do come purely for the party...I'm not a "HUGE" nascar fan, infact I rarely watch it on sundays...maybe the last 50 laps or the highlights like Landon, but if I'm going to a race I go to the Cup race at least...at worst I get to work on my tan [:P] and its not like I'm not bringing in a 12 pack with me for the 3 hour race.
I take it you can bring your own beer in like NH...No go in AZ..</P>


Going to the party could have nothing to do with racing at all..And yes Kase, there are a few toothless ones for ya...</P>


</P>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or other major cities.
those numbers are twisted... 40 events total? thats three nfl teams full seasons.... u can't compare that to the NFL</p>


Don't kid yourself, NASCAR is friggin huge.</p>

Never appealed to me. I guess it's because I grew up in Queens, which is not a NASCAR town. I grew up watching the Giants, Yanks, and Knicks and never really got into NASCAR. I honestly didn't even knew it existed until we moved down here.

[patsrule666]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or major cities.


I was watching Around the Horn yesterday and they had a story that attendance for the races are down and TV ratings are declining. I think now the sport's gonna go through a little rough period.
Just think of how many more condoms, beer, and fattiies, you can buy if you sell your ticket for 50-100 bucks....

[MattMeyerBud]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or other major cities.
those numbers are twisted... 40 events total? thats three nfl teams full seasons.... u can't compare that to the NFL</P>


Don't kid yourself,* NASCAR is friggin huge.</P>

yes it is..


bigger than the big 3? It came close and is already on the decline...

[bigblue4417]

http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/DrSugarRay/Commentaries/RednecksNASCAR.jpg

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or major cities.


I was watching Around the Horn yesterday and they had a story that attendance for the races are down and TV ratings are declining. I think now the sport's gonna go through a little rough period.
Just think of how many more condoms, beer, and fattiies, you can buy if you sell your ticket for 50-100 bucks....

I'm sure the NASCAR officials are thrilled that people come to the race site just for the party and then don't even attend the race....

Are we this bored that we're talking about Nascar today? God, this blows

[Kase-1]

this thread has hit rock bottom first u say u go to nascar only to party... now look at what you've become!

Who are you talking to?
daven.. i mentioned partying, u know that wasn't for u

ROFL...

But no I never said "I" went there only to party...but since LT is being all whiny about something he knows nothing about and saying it puts him to sleep I said that HE should come just for the party...like our camping neighbors did...alot of people do come purely for the party...I'm not a "HUGE" nascar fan, infact I rarely watch it on sundays...maybe the last 50 laps or the highlights like Landon, but if I'm going to a race I go to the Cup race at least...at worst I get to work on my tan [:P] and its not like I'm not bringing in a 12 pack with me for the 3 hour race.
I take it you can bring your own beer in like NH...No go in AZ..</p>


Going to the party could have nothing to do with racing at all..And yes Kase, there are a few toothless ones for ya...</p>


</p>I mean I enjoy gettin hammered as well as the sun, but I can sit on the curb and watch cars drive by and get loaded without losing my hearing, and if I post up on a hot block I can check some ladies, 5th Ave in BK is PERFECT for that sort of thing, LOL.....


How much do tickets cost for those events anyways

[Kase-1]

http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/DrSugarRay/Commentaries/RednecksNASCAR.jpg
Yo cooler racing is mad fun yo!!!

[bigblue4417]

Live spectators...NASCAR, no contest.
</p>


TV Ratings...American Football.
</p>


"Beginning as regional entertainment in the Southeastern U.S., NASCAR
has grown to become the second most popular professional spectator
sport in terms of television ratings inside the U.S., ranking behind
only the National Football League. Internationally, NASCAR races are
broadcast in over 150 countries. It holds 17 of the top 20 attended
sporting events in the U.S., and has 75 million fans who purchase over
$2 billion in annual licensed product sales. These fans are considered
the most brand-loyal in all of sports, and as a result, Fortune 500
companies sponsor NASCAR more than any other sport."
</p>

[DavenIII]

I take it you can bring your own beer in like NH...No go in AZ..</p>


Going to the party could have nothing to do with racing at all..And yes Kase, there are a few toothless ones for ya...</p>


</p>


</p>

I've been to Watkins Glen in NY, Dover Downs in Delaware, been to Martisville, been to Bristol been to Pocono's been to Homestead and a few more...never was there a track that you couldn't bring beer to, I almost find it hard to believe you couldn't in AZ.</p>

Hell you are allowed to drive around with beer in your hand around the camp site and can wave to cops and they do nothing....they wave back! in NY where it is clearly illegal.
</p>

[Kase-1]

yes it is..


bigger than the big 3? It came close and is already on the decline...
....And hockey is on the INCLINE!!!!

too bad itll never surpass Basketball with all these larger than life personalities currently in the NBA.......

[Morehead State]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or other major cities.
those numbers are twisted... 40 events total? thats three nfl teams full seasons.... u can't compare that to the NFL</P>


Don't kid yourself, NASCAR is friggin huge.</P>


yes it is.. bigger than the big 3? It came close and is already on the decline...</P>


Stock car racing is still (I believe) the largest spectator sport in the US. Its not really for me either, but its big friggin business. If you spent some time down south, you would know what I'm talking about.</P>

[bigblue4417]

Yo cooler racing is mad fun yo!!!

We all have a little Nascar in us......

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

yes it is..


bigger than the big 3? It came close and is already on the decline...
....And hockey is on the INCLINE!!!!

too bad itll never surpass Basketball with all these larger than life personalities currently in the NBA.......


Hockey needs to get a broadcasting deal with ESPN or Fox or someone so they can get more exposure. It's an exciting game, I just don't watch it a lot because I don't know when the games are on or what channel they're on.

I mean, their big national TV partner is Vs. which isn't even available on all providers, so that sucks.

[patsrule666]

2nd most popular in terms of what...... Missing Teeth In The Crowd???


As in TV ratings across America [:P] including the east coast. it's actually getting close to Football as far as the total amount of people who watch it at a given time. If you "Hate" Nascar you are actually the minority just FYI...even in NYC or LA or major cities.


I was watching Around the Horn yesterday and they had a story that attendance for the races are down and TV ratings are declining. I think now the sport's gonna go through a little rough period.
Just think of how many more condoms, beer, and fattiies, you can buy if you sell your ticket for 50-100 bucks....

I'm sure the NASCAR officials are thrilled that people come to the race site just for the party and then don't even attend the race....

Are we this bored that we're talking about Nascar today? God, this blows
We could be talking about your lovely hair-do...lol.</P>


My suggestion- start with a Giants tailgate party, maybe move up to a Phis or Buffet tailgate party, then you may be ready for a 100,000 drunks....lol.</P>

[DavenIII]

And kase @ that Picture....they have Motorized Coolers now, you sit on the cooler and it goes like 10-15 MPH with like a lawnmower engine and carries a 30pak and keeps it cool.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/99/l_dd65d02deed4b1b67588f6597f91dba9.jpg

[DavenIII]

Stock car racing is still (I believe) the largest spectator sport in the US. Its not really for me either, but its big friggin business. If you spent some time down south, you would know what I'm talking about.</p>

It's "Bigger" down south but its not Small in the NorthEast by any means, Dover is the NE so is Watkins Glen and Pocono's...there has always been talk about them making a Track near NYC too....Demand up here is big as well....you don't have to be from the south to know about it anymore.

[MattMeyerBud]

Live spectators...NASCAR, no contest.
</p>


TV Ratings...American Football.
</p>


"Beginning as regional entertainment in the Southeastern U.S., NASCAR
has grown to become the second most popular professional spectator
sport in terms of television ratings inside the U.S., ranking behind
only the National Football League. Internationally, NASCAR races are
broadcast in over 150 countries. It holds 17 of the top 20 attended
sporting events in the U.S., and has 75 million fans who purchase over
$2 billion in annual licensed product sales. These fans are considered
the most brand-loyal in all of sports, and as a result, Fortune 500
companies sponsor NASCAR more than any other sport."
</p>

thats cuz its far and few in between and the stadiums are bigger

go play the superbowl, nba finals, and world series - and playoffs for them in stadiums that size they would sell out as well

[DavenIII]

I'm sure the NASCAR officials are thrilled that people come to the race site just for the party and then don't even attend the race....




Why wouldn't they be? It's extra money, until recently they would sell out and then have another 30-40K+ Fans just hanging out in the Lots paying for parking to party.

pay 40 bucks and you are at an instant 2 day "Kegger" BBQ with Live Bands for Free DJ's and Fireworks and lightshows with a "Mardi Gras" type atmosphere Hot Women Flashing for beads etc etc, who wouldn't want to do that...besides LT.

[patsrule666]

I take it you can bring your own beer in like NH...No go in AZ..</P>


Going to the party could have nothing to do with racing at all..And yes Kase, there are a few toothless ones for ya...</P>


</P>



</P>


I've been to Watkins Glen in NY, Dover Downs in Delaware, been to Martisville, been to Bristol been to Pocono's been to Homestead and a few more...never was there a track that you couldn't bring beer to, I almost find it hard to believe you couldn't in AZ.</P>


Hell you are allowed to drive around with beer in your hand around the camp site and can wave to cops and they do nothing....they wave back! in NY where it is clearly illegal.
</P>


It was quite comical actually..I walked up to the gate carrying like a 20 pack, in my usual drunkeness..The guy says open your cooler, he zipped it up real quick and rushed me through...</P>


Only after i got in did i find out it wasnt permitted...the 20 or so people i was with were all freaking out...</P>

[DavenIII]

Live spectators...NASCAR, no contest.
</p>


TV Ratings...American Football.
</p>


"Beginning as regional entertainment in the Southeastern U.S., NASCAR
has grown to become the second most popular professional spectator
sport in terms of television ratings inside the U.S., ranking behind
only the National Football League. Internationally, NASCAR races are
broadcast in over 150 countries. It holds 17 of the top 20 attended
sporting events in the U.S., and has 75 million fans who purchase over
$2 billion in annual licensed product sales. These fans are considered
the most brand-loyal in all of sports, and as a result, Fortune 500
companies sponsor NASCAR more than any other sport."
</p>

thats cuz its far and few in between and the stadiums are bigger

go play the superbowl, nba finals, and world series - and playoffs for them in stadiums that size they would sell out as well

It's not just attendance MMB its TV viewers, Put the Daytona 500 up against the NBA Finals or the Stanely Cup or the World Series and I'd bet you have more TV viewers.

Big Business doesn't sponser NASCAR more then Baseball and Basketball for no reason MMB...they research this stuff.

[Kase-1]

Stock car racing is still (I believe) the largest spectator sport in the US. Its not really for me either, but its big friggin business. If you spent some time down south, you would know what I'm talking about.</p>

It's "Bigger" down south but its not Small in the NorthEast by any means, Dover is the NE so is Watkins Glen and Pocono's...there has always been talk about them making a Track near NYC too....Demand up here is big as well....you don't have to be from the south to know about it anymore.

Theyve been trying 2 get one out in Riverhead LI, but its pretty much the end of LI but its one straight 10 lane HWY there

[Morehead State]

Stock car racing is still (I believe) the largest spectator sport in the US. Its not really for me either, but its big friggin business. If you spent some time down south, you would know what I'm talking about.</P>




It's "Bigger" down south but its not Small in the NorthEast by any means, Dover is the NE so is Watkins Glen and Pocono's...there has always been talk about them making a Track near NYC too....Demand up here is big as well....you don't have to be from the south to know about it anymore.
</P>


Don't forget Loudon, NH.</P>

[Kase-1]

Yo cooler racing is mad fun yo!!!

We all have a little Nascar in us......

LOL, I HAVE spent a significant amount of time in the trailer parks......LOL

[bigblue4417]

thats cuz its far and few in between and the stadiums are bigger

go play the superbowl, nba finals, and world series - and playoffs for them in stadiums that size they would sell out as well
What are you talking about bro? They race every week for 6 months or something like that. I do agree that wherever they played the Superbowl it would sell out. No matter how many people they could pack in the joint. World Series or NBA Finals not so much. I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.

[MattMeyerBud]

Live spectators...NASCAR, no contest.
</p>


TV Ratings...American Football.
</p>


"Beginning as regional entertainment in the Southeastern U.S., NASCAR
has grown to become the second most popular professional spectator
sport in terms of television ratings inside the U.S., ranking behind
only the National Football League. Internationally, NASCAR races are
broadcast in over 150 countries. It holds 17 of the top 20 attended
sporting events in the U.S., and has 75 million fans who purchase over
$2 billion in annual licensed product sales. These fans are considered
the most brand-loyal in all of sports, and as a result, Fortune 500
companies sponsor NASCAR more than any other sport."
</p>

thats cuz its far and few in between and the stadiums are bigger

go play the superbowl, nba finals, and world series - and playoffs for them in stadiums that size they would sell out as well

It's not just attendance MMB its TV viewers, Put the Daytona 500 up against the NBA Finals or the Stanely Cup or the World Series and I'd bet you have more TV viewers.

Big Business doesn't sponser NASCAR more then Baseball and Basketball for no reason MMB...they research this stuff.


on a game 7?

i mean theres so many variables that differ from the sport that its impossible..

[Kase-1]

OK people time 2 head 2 work..... be back round 10ish

[DavenIII]

Don't forget Loudon, NH.</p>

I forgot it cause I haven't been yet [:P] but your right.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Why wouldn't they be?

My point was that they are seeing race attendance decline. If people just travel to where ever and don't buy a ticket to see the race or do anything race related. As an official, wouldn't you want to know that you're selling as many tickets as possible? I mean, almost every NFL games is sold out. The race on Sunday had a lot of empty seats. If race attendance declines at tracks across the country, it would be damaging for the sport.




...besides LT.


Was that really necessary?

[bigblue4417]

Was that really necessary?

<font size="6">YES</font>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.


I highly doubt that.

[DavenIII]

on a game 7?

i mean theres so many variables that differ from the sport that its impossible..

Agreed it's hard to figure out, that's why I'm trusting the advertisers and the researchers on this, do a search on google, its pretty much an unquestioned fact at this point that its the second most popular sport...it's trying to become the first...thats the entire reason they started this new scoring system the last few years in Nascar...it kicks in right when Football starts.

[MattMeyerBud]

lets get real with this...

on a given night in baseball like tonite when there are 15 games going on, there are more viewers combined total watching than in the average nascar race...

not even debatable. These numbers are being put up against a single game, like yanks - indians.

yes nascar is going to have better numbers than the yanks-indians games, but go combine the numbers and advertizers for the other 14 games going on that night WITH the yankee game and it will **** on nascar numbers

Even if it doesn't, do the math of havein 162 regular season games (4x the number of nascar events)...

the numbers really aren't anywhere close.

[DavenIII]

I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.


I highly doubt that.


I'd bet alot of money on it, Alex I don't think is even close to Jimme Johnson..or Dale Jr. or Jeff Gordon.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

on a game 7?

i mean theres so many variables that differ from the sport that its impossible..

Agreed it's hard to figure out, that's why I'm trusting the advertisers and the researchers on this, do a search on google, its pretty much an unquestioned fact at this point that its the second most popular sport...it's trying to become the first...thats the entire reason they started this new scoring system the last few years in Nascar...it kicks in right when Football starts.



That scoring system is so stupid. Not even the drivers know how it works.

You can explain the football, basketball, and baseball scoring systems to a casual person who has never seen a game before and you can make them understand it. With Nascar? I have no idea how the drivers earn their points. I know it has to do something with how they finish in the race, but I really have no clue.

[DavenIII]

lets get real with this...

on a given night in baseball like tonite when there are 15 games going on, there are more viewers combined total watching than in the average nascar race...

not even debatable.

No that is EXTREMELY debatable, in fact I'd guess you were wrong with that....




These numbers are being put up against a single game, like yanks - indians.

yes nascar is going to have better numbers than the yanks-indians games, but go combine the numbers and advertizers for the other 14 games going on that night WITH the yankee game and it will **** on nascar numbers

Even if it doesn't, do the math of havein 162 regular season games (4x the number of nascar events)...

the numbers really aren't anywhere close.

No MMB, that's not whats happening, why would advertising companies recommend a big businiess Like "Budweiser" or "Home Depot" Or "Lowes" choose to spend more money on selling to Nascar fans then Baseball or Basketball fans if there weren't more of them....it wouldn't make sense....follow the Money Trail MMB.

[Morehead State]

lets get real with this... on a given night in baseball like tonite when there are 15 games going on, there are more viewers combined total watching than in the average nascar race... not even debatable. These numbers are being put up against a single game, like yanks - indians. yes nascar is going to have better numbers than the yanks-indians games, but go combine the numbers and advertizers for the other 14 games going on that night WITH the yankee game and it will **** on nascar numbers Even if it doesn't, do the math of havein 162 regular season games (4x the number of nascar events)... the numbers really aren't anywhere close.</P>


Matt....Your wrong. Its hard to imagine, but Nascar is #2 to the NFL. I don't watch too much Nascar, but I know that.</P>


You can make all the arguments that it shouldn't be true, but the objective fact is, that it is.</P>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.


I highly doubt that.


I'd bet alot of money on it, Alex I don't think is even close to Jimme Johnson..or Dale Jr. or Jeff Gordon.


You're telling me that more people know who Jeff Gordon is than Alex Rodriguez, the best player on the greatest franchise in the history of professional sports?

[DavenIII]

That scoring system is so stupid. Not even the drivers know how it works.

You can explain the football, basketball, and baseball scoring systems to a casual person who has never seen a game before and you can make them understand it. With Nascar? I have no idea how the drivers earn their points. I know it has to do something with how they finish in the race, but I really have no clue.


what are you talking about? the new scoring system is an attempt at the "Playoffs" it makes it so only the top 12 race cars are elidgable to win points the last 10 races of the season...which, IMO is ******ed because you still got another 30 cars racing for what amounts to nothing at that point....it used to be just a points race from the first race to the last which made sense...so a driver could win the last 10 races of the year and jump from say 40th to top 3 or something.

the scoring system is really simple, laps lead and position....not much to it really...you can get penalized points unlike other sports they don't take wins away in baseball or football.

[DavenIII]

I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.


I highly doubt that.


I'd bet alot of money on it, Alex I don't think is even close to Jimme Johnson..or Dale Jr. or Jeff Gordon.


You're telling me that more people know who Jeff Gordon is than Alex Rodriguez, the best player on the greatest franchise in the history of professional sports?


Oh yeah... 100% sure on that....(In America)

[MattMeyerBud]

its a twist of numbers... i can provide numbers that woudl totally dispute that...

there is no way a night of combined 15 games, with 15 ballparks.

If Delaware sold out, they would of had 140,000 people...

i think between all the games tonite there will be an average of 10k (minimum) at all games...

attendance for a night of nascar and a night of baseball really isn't more. I don't even want to get into TV viewers. GO combine ALL of tonites numbers, ratings, and attendance and compare that to nascar.

Thats a true testament to how bull**** it is.

The same guys i see standing up for the Nascar argument are the same guys who hate basing their football arguments on stats....

this nascar ratings stat is equivalent to arguing that a cornerback is good because he has alot of tackles.

Im not saying Nascar hasn't really transformed into a powerhouse, but its a true misconception and play on numbers to try and say its anywhere near the big 3

[MattMeyerBud]

lets get real with this...

on a given night in baseball like tonite when there are 15 games going on, there are more viewers combined total watching than in the average nascar race...

not even debatable.

No that is EXTREMELY debatable, in fact I'd guess you were wrong with that....




These numbers are being put up against a single game, like yanks - indians.

yes nascar is going to have better numbers than the yanks-indians games, but go combine the numbers and advertizers for the other 14 games going on that night WITH the yankee game and it will **** on nascar numbers

Even if it doesn't, do the math of havein 162 regular season games (4x the number of nascar events)...

the numbers really aren't anywhere close.

No MMB, that's not whats happening, why would advertising companies recommend a big businiess Like "Budweiser" or "Home Depot" Or "Lowes" choose to spend more money on selling to Nascar fans then Baseball or Basketball fans if there weren't more of them....it wouldn't make sense....follow the Money Trail MMB.


there is also target groups when it comes to advertizing moorehead. if you could hit a million general people thats good, if u can hit 500k all in ur target group thats even better.

Let alone the fact that the advertizement is another bull**** thing to argue in this fact when nascar drivers rely on advertizers to keep their ride

[bigblue4417]

I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.


I highly doubt that.


I'd bet alot of money on it, Alex I don't think is even close to Jimme Johnson..or Dale Jr. or Jeff Gordon.


You're telling me that more people know who Jeff Gordon is than Alex Rodriguez, the best player on the greatest franchise in the history of professional sports?


Oh yeah... 100% sure on that....(In America)

You think some country ****er in Arkansas knows who A-Rod is? Everyone knows who Jeff Gordon is. Everyone knows Earnhardt.

[DavenIII]

its a twist of numbers... i can provide numbers that woudl totally dispute that...

there is no way a night of combined 15 games, with 15 ballparks.

If Delaware sold out, they would of had 140,000 people...

i think between all the games tonite there will be an average of 10k (minimum) at all games...

attendance for a night of nascar and a night of baseball really isn't more. I don't even want to get into TV viewers. GO combine ALL of tonites numbers, ratings, and attendance and compare that to nascar.

Thats a true testament to how bull**** it is.

The same guys i see standing up for the Nascar argument are the same guys who hate basing their football arguments on stats....

this nascar ratings stat is equivalent to arguing that a cornerback is good because he has alot of tackles.

Im not saying Nascar hasn't really transformed into a powerhouse, but its a true misconception and play on numbers to try and say its anywhere near the big 3

Well to be perfectly honest Nascar has 3 Races a week (The sunday CUP race is just the "Best of the best), if they all sold out it'd be upwards of well depending on the track? it could be 600k+, not even including fans that go watch Happy Hour practice on Sat and Qualifying etc etc.

regardless... we can twist the numbers anyway we want to MMB the fact remains that the companies that are spending money on advertising are spending it on NASCAR over Basketball or Baseball...and people smarter then you and me and Morehead and LT and everyone else here about this subject...have advised them to do so....don't you see the logic in that? if that's where the money is being spent then clearly there has to be a good reason for it...the private sector doesn't waste money like the Government does [:P]

[Morehead State]

I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.


I highly doubt that.


I'd bet alot of money on it, Alex I don't think is even close to Jimme Johnson..or Dale Jr. or Jeff Gordon.


You're telling me that more people know who Jeff Gordon is than Alex Rodriguez, the best player on the greatest franchise in the history of professional sports?
</P>


Who's Alex Rodriguez?</P>


Yes, as hard as it is to A) admit it and B) for me to agree with Scrappy, more people in the US know who Jeff Gordon is.</P>


If you ask a cross section of Americans who Jimmy Johnson is:</P>


5% would say the DC of the Eagles (prison vote mostly)</P>


20% would say the ex coach with the hair</P>


75% would say the Nascar driver.</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

its a twist of numbers... i can provide numbers that woudl totally dispute that...

there is no way a night of combined 15 games, with 15 ballparks.

If Delaware sold out, they would of had 140,000 people...

i think between all the games tonite there will be an average of 10k (minimum) at all games...

attendance for a night of nascar and a night of baseball really isn't more. I don't even want to get into TV viewers. GO combine ALL of tonites numbers, ratings, and attendance and compare that to nascar.

Thats a true testament to how bull**** it is.

The same guys i see standing up for the Nascar argument are the same guys who hate basing their football arguments on stats....

this nascar ratings stat is equivalent to arguing that a cornerback is good because he has alot of tackles.

Im not saying Nascar hasn't really transformed into a powerhouse, but its a true misconception and play on numbers to try and say its anywhere near the big 3

Well to be perfectly honest Nascar has 3 Races a week (The sunday CUP race is just the "Best of the best), if they all sold out it'd be upwards of well depending on the track? it could be 600k+, not even including fans that go watch Happy Hour practice on Sat and Qualifying etc etc.

regardless... we can twist the numbers anyway we want to MMB the fact remains that the companies that are spending money on advertising are spending it on NASCAR over Basketball or Baseball...and people smarter then you and me and Morehead and LT and everyone else here about this subject...have advised them to do so....don't you see the logic in that? if that's where the money is being spent then clearly there has to be a good reason for it...the private sector doesn't waste money like the Government does [:P]


3 races a week? I am not sure how that goes, but i know there is not 3 races a week televised. So TV Ratings i don't ever want to hear again. 99% of every baseball game in the MLB is televised, with 162 games a year each plus playoffs

qualifying happy hour is equivalent to spring training

Bro its a stat and its how its perceived and brought to you...

lets just at the end of the seasons lets do grand totals... how tickets were sold and how many viewers watched each on TV

it will not be close

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

I don't know how many fans NASCAR gets in at all the races throughout the year, but I did some research...

Just using New York teams as an example, since that's the biggest market in America

The Yankees had 4,298,655 fans go to 81 home games last season. The American League average for total fans during the 81 home games was 2,464,986 fans in the season.

The Knicks had 783,715 total fans come in for their 41 home games in the 2007 season.

Now these are just one team in a league of several teams. MLB has 30, NBA has 30, NFL has 32.

There are more teams and more games for fans to attend. I don't see how a 40 race NASCAR season can have more fans than 30 MLB teams playing a 162 game season, then you add the playoffs.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

its a twist of numbers... i can provide numbers that woudl totally dispute that...

there is no way a night of combined 15 games, with 15 ballparks.

If Delaware sold out, they would of had 140,000 people...

i think between all the games tonite there will be an average of 10k (minimum) at all games...

attendance for a night of nascar and a night of baseball really isn't more. I don't even want to get into TV viewers. GO combine ALL of tonites numbers, ratings, and attendance and compare that to nascar.

Thats a true testament to how bull**** it is.

The same guys i see standing up for the Nascar argument are the same guys who hate basing their football arguments on stats....

this nascar ratings stat is equivalent to arguing that a cornerback is good because he has alot of tackles.

Im not saying Nascar hasn't really transformed into a powerhouse, but its a true misconception and play on numbers to try and say its anywhere near the big 3

Well to be perfectly honest Nascar has 3 Races a week (The sunday CUP race is just the "Best of the best), if they all sold out it'd be upwards of well depending on the track? it could be 600k+, not even including fans that go watch Happy Hour practice on Sat and Qualifying etc etc.

regardless... we can twist the numbers anyway we want to MMB the fact remains that the companies that are spending money on advertising are spending it on NASCAR over Basketball or Baseball...and people smarter then you and me and Morehead and LT and everyone else here about this subject...have advised them to do so....don't you see the logic in that? if that's where the money is being spent then clearly there has to be a good reason for it...the private sector doesn't waste money like the Government does [:P]


3 races a week? I am not sure how that goes, but i know there is not 3 races a week televised. So TV Ratings i don't ever want to hear again. 99% of every baseball game in the MLB is televised, with 162 games a year each plus playoffs

qualifying happy hour is equivalent to spring training

Bro its a stat and its how its perceived and brought to you...

lets just at the end of the seasons lets do grand totals... how tickets were sold and how many viewers watched each on TV

it will not be close

Yeah, I would think the other leagues had the edge in TV ratings since all the teams have their own regional coverage

[bigblue4417]

NASCAR
has grown to become the second most popular professional spectator
sport in terms of television ratings inside the U.S.

Internationally, NASCAR races are
broadcast in over 150 countries.

It holds 17 of the top 20 attended
sporting events in the U.S.

75 million fans who purchase over
$2 billion in annual licensed product sales.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.


I highly doubt that.


I'd bet alot of money on it, Alex I don't think is even close to Jimme Johnson..or Dale Jr. or Jeff Gordon.


You're telling me that more people know who Jeff Gordon is than Alex Rodriguez, the best player on the greatest franchise in the history of professional sports?


Oh yeah... 100% sure on that....(In America)

You think some country ****er in Arkansas knows who A-Rod is? Everyone knows who Jeff Gordon is. Everyone knows Earnhardt.


I'm pretty sure everyone knows who A-Rod is.

[DavenIII]

3 races a week? I am not sure how that goes, but i know there is not 3 races a week televised.

Yes there is, the Truck Race and the Busch Series which are also part of the "NASCAR" Shield so to speak as in they are sanctioned by Nascar are also often Televised... Nationally...which is another big subject that hasn't been brought up, all races are NATIONALLY Televised on regular TV as opposed to Football/Baseball/Basketball which are all regionally televised without buying special cable packages (besides Sunday night football monday night football etc etc)





So TV Ratings i don't ever want to hear again. 99% of every baseball game in the MLB is televised, with 162 games a year each plus playoffs

qualifying happy hour is equivalent to spring training

Bro

Happy Hour and Quailify again are NATIONALLY Televised is Spring Traning Televised at all?



its a stat and its how its perceived and brought to you...

lets just at the end of the seasons lets do grand totals... how tickets were sold and how many viewers watched each on TV

it will not be close

You are right its not Close Nascar wins by a long shot (at least on TV) over Baseball and Basketball.

[DavenIII]

I bet more people know Jimmie Johnson than Alex Rodriguez.


I highly doubt that.


I'd bet alot of money on it, Alex I don't think is even close to Jimme Johnson..or Dale Jr. or Jeff Gordon.


You're telling me that more people know who Jeff Gordon is than Alex Rodriguez, the best player on the greatest franchise in the history of professional sports?


Oh yeah... 100% sure on that....(In America)

You think some country ****er in Arkansas knows who A-Rod is? Everyone knows who Jeff Gordon is. Everyone knows Earnhardt.


I'm pretty sure everyone knows who A-Rod is.


And we are telling you, you are wrong....really the ONLY evidence needed in this entire discussion is that me and Morehead are agreeing...clearly if that's happening this is a well known FACT that can't be argued about otherwise we'd find a way.

[MattMeyerBud]

NASCAR
has grown to become the second most popular professional spectator
sport in terms of television ratings inside the U.S.

Internationally, NASCAR races are
broadcast in over 150 countries.

It holds 17 of the top 20 attended
sporting events in the U.S.

75 million fans who purchase over
$2 billion in annual licensed product sales.


well lets be honest about the national broadcasting...

thats cuz japan, korea, and all of the spanish countries have their own leagues and im DEFINITLY positive if you want to bring in all the professional baseball that goes on in the world and compare it to nascar my point would be proven even more drastically...

the 17 of top 20 events is an impressive thing, no doubt.... but thats like comparing one of thsoe events to the Blue jays - marlins game...

its ridiculous, the whole argument u guys are making. There are multiple teams and games going on every night for the sport of baseball which is why u can't compare the sport who has ONE event a week to ONE baseball event...

Compare the whole night of baseball fans and watchers and advertizers and go from there.

HAnds down its baseball

[bigblue4417]

Hands down its baseball
Then why doesn't it say that?

[bigblue4417]

Really the ONLY evidence needed in this entire discussion is that me and Morehead are agreeing...clearly if that's happening this is a well known FACT that can't be argued about otherwise we'd find a way.

That was funny as hell. Nice Daven. [:D] LMAO

[MattMeyerBud]

3 races a week? I am not sure how that goes, but i know there is not 3 races a week televised.

Yes there is, the Truck Race and the Busch Series which are also part of the "NASCAR" Shield so to speak as in they are sanctioned by Nascar are also often Televised... Nationally...which is another big subject that hasn't been brought up, all races are NATIONALLY Televised on regular TV as opposed to Football/Baseball/Basketball which are all regionally televised without buying special cable packages (besides Sunday night football monday night football etc etc)


*


So TV Ratings i don't ever want to hear again. 99% of every baseball game in the MLB is televised, with 162 games a year each plus playoffs

qualifying happy hour is equivalent to spring training

Bro

Happy Hour and Quailify again are NATIONALLY Televised is Spring Traning Televised at all?

*
*
its a stat and its how its perceived and brought to you...

lets just at the end of the seasons lets do grand totals... how tickets were sold and how many viewers watched each on TV

it will not be close

You are right its not Close Nascar wins by a long shot (at least on TV) over Baseball and Basketball.


lol i'll give u all three its still not beating a week of baseball. 80 games a week about? if they average 10k each (which its def more) then they **** on nascars attendance of 600k...

and the TV thing, really ridiculous to try and debate.

Nascar racers are the equivalent of a baseball team. So to fairly compare the two u would have to pretend some how EVERY baseball team was playing i the same game and they brough all of their fans with them.


The three best nights of baseball this week combined will draw more in person and on TV... not even debatable

[MattMeyerBud]

Hands down its baseball
Then why doesn't it say that?


because u keep pulling single event stats out as ur argument...

but that isn't a fair ground of comparison...

Tonite most teams are playing baseball (maybe all of htem)... just those total numbers to the total numbers of the nascar event. U find me a stat that says nascar draws more in that scenerio then i will concede

[DavenIII]

MMB I'm telling you add up the TV veiwing audience for all your MLB teams and compare it to all the Nascar Coverage for one week you'll end up losing...I know this to be true, I can't find statistics to prove the point either way but there is enough circumstancial evidence to assume this to be true anyhow.

take every team, every game and add all the ratings put it up against the coverage of the Qualifying and Practice for ONE race and the MLB will most likely LOSE.

[DavenIII]

The three best nights of baseball this week combined will draw more in person and on TV... not even debatable

the only thing that's not debatable as how wrong you are on this topic MMB [:P]

[MattMeyerBud]

MMB I'm telling you add up the TV veiwing audience for all your MLB teams and compare it to all the Nascar Coverage for one week you'll end up losing...I know this to be true, I can't find statistics to prove the point either way but there is enough circumstancial evidence to assume this to be true anyhow.

take every team, every game and add all the ratings put it up against the coverage of the Qualifying and Practice for ONE race and the MLB will most likely LOSE.


nascar having 17 of the 20 biggest events of the year is NOT enough circumstancial evidence. Tommorrow mornig somebody find the nielson ratings and what each stadium drew and i bet combined it is more than whatever nascar just did in delaware

[bigblue4417]

He is like William Wallace. He will never concede. You have to rip his guts out and chop his head off to get him to give up. I am with you though Daven. I wish I could find stats but I can't.

[MattMeyerBud]

The three best nights of baseball this week combined will draw more in person and on TV... not even debatable

the only thing that's not debatable as how wrong you are on this topic MMB [:P]


we'll settle it tom... gotta find sites that show how many people tuned into the games last night and what each stadium drew.....

[MattMeyerBud]

He is like William Wallace. He will never concede. You have to rip his guts out and chop his head off to get him to give up. I am with you though Daven. I wish I could find stats but I can't.


http://www.matulionis.lt/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/no-ma-am.jpg


i said i would concede if u guys could find stats that didn't compare ONE nascar event to ONE baseball game... its a ridiculous concept that im a lil surprised u guys are still standing by

[bigblue4417]

I don't know when this is from but..........



NBC's telecast of the Daytona 400 blew past the competition to
become the most-watched TV program in the Syracuse area during last
month's period. </p>



The July 7 program on WSTM-TV (Channel 3) scored a 10.8 rating,
which means it was viewed in an estimated 39,064 local households. The
show nationally ranked No. 26. </p>



Placing second was the Major League Baseball All-Star Game,
which aired July 10 on Fox affiliate WSYT-TV (Channel 68). In Syracuse,
the game scored a 10.6 household rating, which equals about 38,340
households.
</p>


</p>That was the ****ing ALL STAR game. I will keep looking though, and also think if that was in NY imagine what it was down south or nationwide for that matter.

[DavenIII]

we'll settle it tom... gotta find sites that show how many people tuned into the games last night and what each stadium drew.....

I'd love to and have been searching for them off and on this whole discussion, they seem to be the only thing that doesn't exist on the internet.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Hands down its baseball
Then why doesn't it say that?


because u keep pulling single event stats out as ur argument...

but that isn't a fair ground of comparison...

Tonite most teams are playing baseball (maybe all of htem)... just those total numbers to the total numbers of the nascar event. U find me a stat that says nascar draws more in that scenerio then i will concede

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race

[MattMeyerBud]

I don't know when this is from but..........



NBC's telecast of the Daytona 400 blew past the competition to
become the most-watched TV program in the Syracuse area during last
month's period. </p>



The July 7 program on WSTM-TV (Channel 3) scored a 10.8 rating,
which means it was viewed in an estimated 39,064 local households. The
show nationally ranked No. 26. </p>



Placing second was the Major League Baseball All-Star Game,
which aired July 10 on Fox affiliate WSYT-TV (Channel 68). In Syracuse,
the game scored a 10.6 household rating, which equals about 38,340
households.
</p>


</p>That was the ****ing ALL STAR game. I will keep looking though, and also think if that was in NY imagine what it was down south or nationwide for that matter.


i didn't even watch the allstar game nobody cares about allstar games

and that was in the SYRACUSE area...

weak landon lol

[DavenIII]

http://www.matulionis.lt/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/no-ma-am.jpg


i said i would concede if u guys could find stats that didn't compare ONE nascar event to ONE baseball game... its a ridiculous concept that im a lil surprised u guys are still standing by

The question is, which has more "FANS" correct MMB? so why not compare say, Game 7 of the World Series ratings to say the Dayton 500... for example....that seems to be the easiest way to do it, and as has been posted here, if you look at the top 20 single events Nascar has 17 of them.

I understand thats a single event..but its seemingly impossible to compare regional vs national ratings.

I understand that you think because there is 80 games to 1 race you win period, but each of those 80 games is reacting a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH smaller audience...that is a fact you continue to ignore.

[bigblue4417]

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<h1 style="margin: 0pt; padding: 0pt; font-size: 16px;">Final Nielsen Ratings From Recent Sports Events</h1>





The following lists final Nielsen ratings from recent sports events (THE DAILY).</p>
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<tbody>
<tr>
<th>
<div align="left"><font color="#ffffff">SHOW</font></div>
</th>
<th>
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">DATE</font></div>
</th>
<th>
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">NET</font></div>
</th>
<th>
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">TIME</font></div>
</th>
<th>
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">RAT/SHR</font></div>
</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<div align="left">Golf: U.S. Open: Final Round Playoff</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/16</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-4:45pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6.7/19</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>
<div align="left">UEFA Euro 2008: Quarterfinals:

Netherlands-Russia</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.2/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>PGA Tour: Travelers Championship: Third Round</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">CBS</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:00-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/3</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>MLB: (regional)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:51-7:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.7/5</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>AST Dew Tour: Panasonic Open</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.7/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Diving</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/3</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Gymnastics: Men's Finals</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">4:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.6/4</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Gymnastics:

Women's (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">8:00-10:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.9/6</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>IRL: Ethanol IndyCar 250</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:30-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>Red Bull X-Fighters: Texas</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.7/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>NCAA Spring Highlight Show</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">CBS</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-3:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.4/1</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>PGA Tour: Travelers Championship: Final Round</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">CBS</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:00-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.6/4</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>F1: French Grand Prix</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.6/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>AST Dew Tour: Panasonic Open</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Diving (live &amp; taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:00-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.2/5</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Gymnastics: Women's</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">7:00-9:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3.9/7</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="580" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0">
<tbody>
<tr valign="bottom">
<th width="284">
<div align="left"><font color="#ffffff">SHOW</font></div>
</th>
<th width="4">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">DATE</font></div>
</th>
<th width="47">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">NET</font></div>
</th>
<th width="54">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">TIME</font></div>
</th>
<th width="41">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">U.S. AREA</font></div>
</th>
<th width="42">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">COV. AREA</font></div>
</th>
<th width="76">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">VIEWERS (000)</font></div>
</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">
<div align="left">Golf: U.S. Open: Final Round Playoff</div>
</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/16</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">12:00-1:55pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">3.6</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">4.2</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">4,762</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">
<div align="left">MLB: Red Sox-Phillies</div>
</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/16</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">7:00-9:42pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.2</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.4</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,571</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">
<div align="left">NCAA Baseball: College World Series: Pool Play: Georgia-Stanford</div>
</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/16</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN2</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">7:00-10:31pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">0.8</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">0.9</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,189</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">NCAA Baseball: College World Series: Pool Play: UNC-LSU</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/20</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">7:00-10:17pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">0.9</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.1</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,408</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">NASCAR Nationwide Series: Camping World RV Rental 250</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN2</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">8:30-11:38pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.2</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.5</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,854</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">NCAA Baseball: College World Series: Pool Play: Fresno State-UNC</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">7:45-11:01pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.0</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.1</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,425</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">NCAA Baseball: College World Series: Pool Play: Georgia-Stanford</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">2:00-5:46pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">0.9</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.1</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,252</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">NASCAR Sprint Cup:

Toyota/Save Mart 350</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">TNT</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">4:59-8:44pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">3.7</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">4.3</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">6,015</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">MLB: White Sox-Cubs</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">8:00-11:15pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.9</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">2.2</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">2,964</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">UEFA Euro 2008: Quarterfinals: Spain-Italy</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">2:30-5:24pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.2</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.4</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,911</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>


MLB NATIONAL: USA TODAY's Bob Kimball reports Fox
Saturday afternoonMLB telecasts areaveraging a 2.0 final Nielsen
rating this season, down from a 2.5 at this point in '07. Fox
VP/Programming &amp; Research Mike Mulvihill said that in '07, there
"were more top matchups toward the beginning of the season," but that
"it's the opposite" in '08 (USA TODAY, 6/27). Viewership for
both Fox' Saturday MLB broadcasts andESPN's "Sunday Night Baseball"is
down "about 15% from last season," whileTBS' national Sunday afternoon
broadcast isaveraging about 656,000 viewers. In N.Y., Bob Raissman
writes, "Mediocrity is affecting the ratings. ... From a business
perspective, it would benefit the networks, and MLB, if the Mets and
Yankees get their on-field business in order" (N.Y. DAILY NEWS, 6/27).</p>



NASCAR: ESPN2 for itscoverage of the June 21
NASCAR Nationwide Series Camping World RV Rental 250 earned a 1.5
coverage area rating (1.9 million viewers, up 15.4% over a 1.3 last
year. Through 11 races on ESPN2, the net is averaging a 1.8 coverage
rating (2.3 million viewers), a 20% increase over '07, which does not
include the rain-delayed Stater Bros. 300 that was televised on a
Monday (THE DAILY).</p>



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[MattMeyerBud]

Hands down its baseball
Then why doesn't it say that?


because u keep pulling single event stats out as ur argument...

but that isn't a fair ground of comparison...

Tonite most teams are playing baseball (maybe all of htem)... just those total numbers to the total numbers of the nascar event. U find me a stat that says nascar draws more in that scenerio then i will concede

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race



so on average 410k people JUST tonite...

game over


i'll accept ur white flags in order

[bigblue4417]

http://www.jayski.com/pages/tvratings2008.htm

[MattMeyerBud]

http://www.matulionis.lt/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/no-ma-am.jpg


i said i would concede if u guys could find stats that didn't compare ONE nascar event to ONE baseball game... its a ridiculous concept that im a lil surprised u guys are still standing by

The question is, which has more "FANS" correct MMB? so why not compare say, Game 7 of the World Series ratings to say the Dayton 500... for example....that seems to be the easiest way to do it, and as has been posted here, if you look at the top 20 single events Nascar has 17 of them.

I understand thats a single event..but its seemingly impossible to compare regional vs national ratings.

I understand that you think because there is 80 games to 1 race you win period, but each of those 80 games is reacting a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH smaller audience...that is a fact you continue to ignore.


because if its Padres Blue Jays world series, im not watching.... im a fan of baseball and the yankees

[patsrule666]

Rodney Harrison might anounce his retirement tommorow..[:'(]

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The following lists final Nielsen ratings from recent sports events (THE DAILY).</p>
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<tbody>
<tr>
<th>
<div align="left"><font color="#ffffff">SHOW</font></div>
</th>
<th>
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">DATE</font></div>
</th>
<th>
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">NET</font></div>
</th>
<th>
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">TIME</font></div>
</th>
<th>
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">RAT/SHR</font></div>
</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<div align="left">Golf: U.S. Open: Final Round Playoff</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/16</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-4:45pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6.7/19</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>
<div align="left">UEFA Euro 2008: Quarterfinals:

Netherlands-Russia</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.2/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>PGA Tour: Travelers Championship: Third Round</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">CBS</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:00-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/3</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>MLB: (regional)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:51-7:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.7/5</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>AST Dew Tour: Panasonic Open</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.7/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Diving</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/3</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Gymnastics: Men's Finals</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">4:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.6/4</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Gymnastics:

Women's (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">8:00-10:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.9/6</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>IRL: Ethanol IndyCar 250</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:30-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>Red Bull X-Fighters: Texas</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.7/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>NCAA Spring Highlight Show</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">CBS</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-3:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.4/1</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>PGA Tour: Travelers Championship: Final Round</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">CBS</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:00-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.6/4</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>F1: French Grand Prix</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.6/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>AST Dew Tour: Panasonic Open</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Diving (live & taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:00-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.2/5</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>U.S. Olympic Trials: Gymnastics: Women's</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">7:00-9:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3.9/7</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="580" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0">
<tbody>
<tr valign="bottom">
<th width="284">
<div align="left"><font color="#ffffff">SHOW</font></div>
</th>
<th width="4">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">DATE</font></div>
</th>
<th width="47">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">NET</font></div>
</th>
<th width="54">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">TIME</font></div>
</th>
<th width="41">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">U.S. AREA</font></div>
</th>
<th width="42">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">COV. AREA</font></div>
</th>
<th width="76">
<div align="center"><font color="#ffffff">VIEWERS (000)</font></div>
</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">
<div align="left">Golf: U.S. Open: Final Round Playoff</div>
</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/16</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">12:00-1:55pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">3.6</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">4.2</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">4,762</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">
<div align="left">MLB: Red Sox-Phillies</div>
</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/16</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">7:00-9:42pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.2</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.4</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,571</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">
<div align="left">NCAA Baseball: College World Series: Pool Play: Georgia-Stanford</div>
</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/16</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN2</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">7:00-10:31pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">0.8</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">0.9</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,189</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">NCAA Baseball: College World Series: Pool Play: UNC-LSU</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/20</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">7:00-10:17pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">0.9</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.1</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,408</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">NASCAR Nationwide Series: Camping World RV Rental 250</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN2</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">8:30-11:38pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.2</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.5</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,854</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">NCAA Baseball: College World Series: Pool Play: Fresno State-UNC</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">7:45-11:01pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.0</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.1</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,425</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">NCAA Baseball: College World Series: Pool Play: Georgia-Stanford</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/21</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">2:00-5:46pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">0.9</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.1</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,252</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">NASCAR Sprint Cup:

Toyota/Save Mart 350</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">TNT</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">4:59-8:44pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">3.7</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">4.3</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">6,015</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="284">MLB: White Sox-Cubs</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">8:00-11:15pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.9</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">2.2</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">2,964</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td width="284">UEFA Euro 2008: Quarterfinals: Spain-Italy</td>
<td width="4">
<div align="center">6/22</div>
</td>
<td width="47">
<div align="center">ESPN</div>
</td>
<td width="54">
<div align="center">2:30-5:24pm</div>
</td>
<td width="41">
<div align="center">1.2</div>
</td>
<td width="42">
<div align="center">1.4</div>
</td>
<td width="76">
<div align="center">1,911</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>


MLB NATIONAL: USA TODAY's Bob Kimball reports Fox
Saturday afternoon*MLB telecasts are*averaging a 2.0 final Nielsen
rating this season, down from a 2.5 at this point in '07. Fox
VP/Programming & Research Mike Mulvihill said that in '07, there
"were more top matchups toward the beginning of the season," but that
"it's the opposite" in '08 (USA TODAY, 6/27). Viewership for
both Fox' Saturday MLB broadcasts and*ESPN's "Sunday Night Baseball"*is
down "about 15% from last season," while*TBS' national Sunday afternoon
broadcast is*averaging about 656,000 viewers. In N.Y., Bob Raissman
writes, "Mediocrity is affecting the ratings. ... From a business
perspective, it would benefit the networks, and MLB, if the Mets and
Yankees get their on-field business in order" (N.Y. DAILY NEWS, 6/27).</p>



NASCAR: ESPN2 for its*coverage of the June 21
NASCAR Nationwide Series Camping World RV Rental 250 earned a 1.5
coverage area rating (1.9 million viewers, up 15.4% over a 1.3 last
year. Through 11 races on ESPN2, the net is averaging a 1.8 coverage
rating (2.3 million viewers), a 20% increase over '07, which does not
include the rain-delayed Stater Bros. 300 that was televised on a
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ur posting neilson ratings for cities bro..

go get the COUNTRY's neilson ratings for these games... won't even be close

[MattMeyerBud]

Rodney Harrison might anounce his retirement tommorow..[:'(]

i thoguht he did already

[DavenIII]

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race



388402 people.

Daytona is 200k+ for the CUP race and likely 100k for the Bush and 50k+ for the truck race, it's close LT, it's very close.

on the other hand the TV Audience isn't close, most of those games is only broadcast regionally, thus the reach if they are lucky, 1/50th of the audience themselves.... is there 50 games tonight? no? then it won't even come close to the national appeal that Nascar has in any of their given races...and again, there is usually 3 races a week plus Qualifying and Happy Hour for the Cup race which is also televised in the end I'd GUESS roughly, that a Race weekend (combining all the things televised) is roughly equal to about 200 regionally broadcast Baseball games... how many Baseball Games a week are there?

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Matt, what happened when you quoted Landon's post? It's like all long and out of whack

[bigblue4417]

<h2>Saturday Ratings: NBA Playoffs No Match For NASCAR Sprint Cup (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/10/saturday-ratings-nba-playoffs-no-match-for-nascar-sprint-cup/18390)</h2>For the second week in a row, Fox’s Saturday night NASCAR Sprint Cup, this time from Darlington, SC, zoomed past the weak competition. Although this week it topped ABC’s NBA Playoffs Conference Semi-Finals

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<td class="xl26" width="33">Net</td>
<td class="xl25" width="183">Show</td>
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<td class="xl27" style="text-align: right;" width="42">18-49 Share</td>
<td class="xl27" style="text-align: right;" width="56">Viewers Live+SD (Millons)</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="16">8:00</td>
<td class="xl26">FOX</td>
<td class="xl25">NASCAR: Darlington (8-10p)</td>
<td class="xl30" align="right">2.0</td>
<td align="right">7</td>
<td class="xl28" align="right">6.48</td>
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<td class="xl27" style="text-align: right;">0.7</td>
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<td class="xl30" align="right">1.1</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td class="xl28" align="right">4.64</td>
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[patsrule666]

Rodney Harrison might anounce his retirement tommorow..[:'(] i thoguht he did already Ha not yet..</P>


Baseball and racing = my two least favorite...</P>


Racing weekend party = my Christmas..</P>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

how many Baseball Games a week are there?




A lot. Probably somewhere near 100 games a week

[Morehead State]

Hands down its baseball
Then why doesn't it say that?
because u keep pulling single event stats out as ur argument... but that isn't a fair ground of comparison... Tonite most teams are playing baseball (maybe all of htem)... just those total numbers to the total numbers of the nascar event. U find me a stat that says nascar draws more in that scenerio then i will concede

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race

so on average 410k people JUST tonite... game over i'll accept ur white flags in order</P>


By your defenition, the NFL (with far fewer games) would be way behind baseball, the NBA, Hockey etc..Its total revenues. Nascar kills all other sports on TV except football. Nascar outdraws all other sports in attendance per event.</P>


Nascar simply makes more $$$$ than any sport except football.</P>

[patsrule666]

Matt, what happened when you quoted Landon's post? It's like all long and out of whack
Haha- Landon, your post is all long and out of whack..stop playing with it...lol.

[DavenIII]

how many Baseball Games a week are there?




A lot. Probably somewhere near 100 games a week


I SERIOUSLY doubt thats enough then, I don't think Baseball even comes close to the total weekly amounts of television viewers that Nascar gets in a given week, I'd estimate (out of my butt) you'd need nearly 200 games to match it.

[bigblue4417]

Look at this one. More people watched qualifying than Basketball. Only Qualifying!!!

<table width="580" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td><div align="left">NCAA Basketball: (regional)</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-5:52pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/-</div>
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<td>
<div align="left">NASCAR Sprint Cup: Budweiser Shootout</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">8:30-10:15pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">5.1/9</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Tylenol Skating &amp; Gymnastics Spectacular (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>PBR: Anaheim Invitational (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">4:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/3</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>NBA Countdown</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">12:30-1:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.2/-</div>
</td>
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<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>NBA: Spurs-Celtics</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.3/-</div>
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<td>NBA: Lakers-Heat</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.6/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>NASCAR Sprint Cup: Daytona 500 Pole Qualifying</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:50pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.9/7</div>
</td>
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<td>NFC-AFC Pro Bowl</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">4:45-7:45pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6.3/12</div>
</td>
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<td>Visa Freestyle International Skicross (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div>
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<td>NHL: Ducks-Red Wings</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div></td></tr></tbody></table>

[DavenIII]

Look at this one. More people watched qualifying than Basketball. Only Qualifying!!!

<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="580"><tbody><tr><td><div align="left">NCAA Basketball: (regional)</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-5:52pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>
<div align="left">NASCAR Sprint Cup: Budweiser Shootout</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">8:30-10:15pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">5.1/9</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Tylenol Skating &amp; Gymnastics Spectacular (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>PBR: Anaheim Invitational (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">4:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/3</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>NBA Countdown</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">12:30-1:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.2/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>NBA: Spurs-Celtics</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.3/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>NBA: Lakers-Heat</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.6/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>NASCAR Sprint Cup: Daytona 500 Pole Qualifying</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:50pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.9/7</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>NFC-AFC Pro Bowl</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">4:45-7:45pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6.3/12</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>Visa Freestyle International Skicross (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>NHL: Ducks-Red Wings</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div></td></tr></tbody></table>


ROFL that's serious, I didn't think THAT many people watched Qualifying.

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

Look at this one. More people watched qualifying than Basketball. Only Qualifying!!!

<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="580"><tbody><tr><td><div align="left">NCAA Basketball: (regional)</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-5:52pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>
<div align="left">NASCAR Sprint Cup: Budweiser Shootout</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">8:30-10:15pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">5.1/9</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Tylenol Skating &amp; Gymnastics Spectacular (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:30-4:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>PBR: Anaheim Invitational (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/9</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">4:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.1/3</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>NBA Countdown</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">12:30-1:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1.2/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>NBA: Spurs-Celtics</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.3/-</div>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>NBA: Lakers-Heat</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">ABC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-6:00pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.6/-</div>
</td>
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<td>NASCAR Sprint Cup: Daytona 500 Pole Qualifying</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">1:00-3:50pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2.9/7</div>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>NFC-AFC Pro Bowl</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">Fox</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">4:45-7:45pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">6.3/12</div>
</td>
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<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0">
<td>Visa Freestyle International Skicross (taped)</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2:00-3:30pm</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">0.8/2</div>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>NHL: Ducks-Red Wings</td>
<td>
<div align="center">2/10</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">NBC</div>
</td>
<td>
<div align="center">3:30-6:00pm</div>
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That's ridiculous. I cannot believe that is true. QUALIFYING? Who the hell cares about that?

[MattMeyerBud]

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race



388402 people.

Daytona is 200k+ for the CUP race and likely 100k for the Bush and 50k+ for the truck race, it's close LT, it's very close.

on the other hand the TV Audience isn't close, most of those games is only broadcast regionally, thus the reach if they are lucky,* 1/50th of the audience themselves.... is there 50 games tonight? no? then it won't even come close to the national appeal that Nascar has in any of their given races...and again, there is usually 3 races a week plus Qualifying and Happy Hour for the Cup race which is also televised in the end I'd GUESS roughly, that a Race weekend (combining all the things televised) is roughly equal to about 200 regionally broadcast Baseball games... how many Baseball Games a week are there?




where are u pulling this from? your ***?

It is regional, but there is also baseball network. Dude this isn't even close...

btw bad math... i just added the thousands and i got 409k

so for ONE night of baseball (equivalent to ONE race) it ****s on it.. if u want to bring the othe rtwo races into it, then i'll just multiply the 409 x 3.

not even close brotha...

[bigblue4417]

That's ridiculous. I cannot believe that is true. QUALIFYING? Who the hell cares about that?

I have never watched it. But it is serious. Plus there is the race before Sunday to that tons of people watch and go to.

[MattMeyerBud]

Look at this one. More people watched qualifying than Basketball. Only Qualifying!!!

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again... ur using 2 of the 15 basketball games going on and thats a city ratings...

holds NO Baring on ANYTHING... i can go find a random place where basketball had the better ratings and counter this argument

landon is just making the ground even more shaky for your argument by trying to pass of ridic numbers that hold no water

[DavenIII]

That's ridiculous. I cannot believe that is true. QUALIFYING? Who the hell cares about that?


That's what I'm trying to tell you LT, it's ALOT of people...more then you can imagine.

That's part of the reason I get a little ticked off when people talk about how redneck Nascar fans are.... sure there are some like that, but nowadays its an accepted sport... there isn't much difference between a Giants football game tailgate and a Nascar race tailgate besides the size Nascar is obviously multiple times larger and the length of time to tailgate...which is often 3 days worth of tailgate for Nascar and 4-6 hours worth at a giants game.

which is also why you REALLY should have came LT.

[bigblue4417]

Ok well I officially give up. Not speaking another word about it. Daven, Morehead and I know who is right and who is wrong.

[DavenIII]

again... ur using 2 of the 15 basketball games going on and thats a city ratings...

Those two games were the only NATIONALLY Televised games, all the other games added up might equal one of those two basketball games matt...the other 13 games combined MAYBE equal to one of those two.

[Morehead State]

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race



388402 people.

Daytona is 200k+ for the CUP race and likely 100k for the Bush and 50k+ for the truck race, it's close LT, it's very close.

on the other hand the TV Audience isn't close, most of those games is only broadcast regionally, thus the reach if they are lucky, 1/50th of the audience themselves.... is there 50 games tonight? no? then it won't even come close to the national appeal that Nascar has in any of their given races...and again, there is usually 3 races a week plus Qualifying and Happy Hour for the Cup race which is also televised in the end I'd GUESS roughly, that a Race weekend (combining all the things televised) is roughly equal to about 200 regionally broadcast Baseball games... how many Baseball Games a week are there?


where are u pulling this from? your ***? It is regional, but there is also baseball network. Dude this isn't even close... btw bad math... i just added the thousands and i got 409k so for ONE night of baseball (equivalent to ONE race) it ****s on it.. if u want to bring the othe rtwo races into it, then i'll just multiply the 409 x 3. not even close brotha...</P>


Matt, you don't get it. If you go by total attendance it means nothing. The NFL draws only about 17MM fans per year. MLB draws closer to 60MM. Which league do you think makes more money?</P>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

which is also why you REALLY should have came LT.




Like I said, I won't lose any sleep over it.

[MattMeyerBud]

again... ur using 2 of the 15 basketball games going on and thats a city ratings...

Those two games were the only NATIONALLY Televised games, all the other games added up might equal one of those two basketball games matt...the other 13 games combined MAYBE equal to one of those two.


dude its a city rating - AKA RIDICULOUS TO EVEN MENTION. That specific place ratings were better. and who cares if it was nationall televised or not. So the Sacramento fans who sat thru their game against hte Nets should be accounted for?

[MattMeyerBud]

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race



388402 people.

Daytona is 200k+ for the CUP race and likely 100k for the Bush and 50k+ for the truck race, it's close LT, it's very close.

on the other hand the TV Audience isn't close, most of those games is only broadcast regionally, thus the reach if they are lucky,* 1/50th of the audience themselves.... is there 50 games tonight? no? then it won't even come close to the national appeal that Nascar has in any of their given races...and again, there is usually 3 races a week plus Qualifying and Happy Hour for the Cup race which is also televised in the end I'd GUESS roughly, that a Race weekend (combining all the things televised) is roughly equal to about 200 regionally broadcast Baseball games... how many Baseball Games a week are there?


where are u pulling this from? your ***? It is regional, but there is also baseball network. Dude this isn't even close... btw bad math... i just added the thousands and i got 409k so for ONE night of baseball (equivalent to ONE race) it ****s on it.. if u want to bring the othe rtwo races into it, then i'll just multiply the 409 x 3. not even close brotha...</P>


Matt, you don't get it.* If you go by total attendance it means nothing.* The NFL draws only about 17MM fans per year.* MLB draws closer to 60MM.* Which league do you think makes more money?</P>

baseball makes more money over all...

no doubt... simply how it is structured...

[Morehead State]

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race



388402 people.

Daytona is 200k+ for the CUP race and likely 100k for the Bush and 50k+ for the truck race, it's close LT, it's very close.

on the other hand the TV Audience isn't close, most of those games is only broadcast regionally, thus the reach if they are lucky, 1/50th of the audience themselves.... is there 50 games tonight? no? then it won't even come close to the national appeal that Nascar has in any of their given races...and again, there is usually 3 races a week plus Qualifying and Happy Hour for the Cup race which is also televised in the end I'd GUESS roughly, that a Race weekend (combining all the things televised) is roughly equal to about 200 regionally broadcast Baseball games... how many Baseball Games a week are there?


where are u pulling this from? your ***? It is regional, but there is also baseball network. Dude this isn't even close... btw bad math... i just added the thousands and i got 409k so for ONE night of baseball (equivalent to ONE race) it ****s on it.. if u want to bring the othe rtwo races into it, then i'll just multiply the 409 x 3. not even close brotha...</P>


Matt, you don't get it. If you go by total attendance it means nothing. The NFL draws only about 17MM fans per year. MLB draws closer to 60MM. Which league do you think makes more money?</P>


baseball makes more money over all... no doubt... simply how it is structured...</P>


Are you trying to be funny?</P>


Its all about TV revs in football. Baseball is about attendance and local TV in a few markets.</P>


Thats why NFL teams are worth so much more than baseball teams on average.</P>

[LT= Lawrence Taylor]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/attendance

NBA and NFL attendance ratings for each home game in the various cities

[bigblue4417]

If nothing else we made some good ground on AG today. lol

[DavenIII]

where are u pulling this from? your ***?

I'm making BROAD estimates...but they aren't as far off as you seem to think, they are closer to the truth then what you are saying.




It is regional, but there is also baseball network.

Yeah? how many people do you think pay for the baseball network? I don't think it's enough man...I'm being serious, and ontop of that there is a channel called "Speed" that has pretty much 12 hours of Nascar on it any given day...and its not even a pay channel...


Dude this isn't even close...

btw bad math... i just added the thousands and i got 409k

so for ONE night of baseball (equivalent to ONE race) it ****s on it..

Ok I give that for ONE race all the Baseball Stadiums hold more people...so what? they also do Bush and Sprint cup races on the same day in 2 different stadiums sometimes, that's a possibility of 400k...but all of that is besides the point...because actually Attendence means NOTHING compared to the TV audience, and NASCAR wins the TV Audience hands down over all your games combined on a night to night basis...one night of BASEBALL (every single game televised) won't equal ONE race...and there's THREE races plus Qualifying and Happy Hour Practice all in one weekend...matt...there are more NASCAR Fans then Baseball Fans... period end of discussion...more fans maybe not more stadiums to house them, but more fans.

[DavenIII]

baseball makes more money over all...

no doubt... simply how it is structured...

you don't honestly believe that do you, cause its just silly.

[bigblue4417]

How did we go from TV ratings to Attendance. It is the 2nd most watched sport. PERIOD!!!

[DavenIII]

LT and MMB you guys seem to be stuck up on the Attendence thing, will you be happy if I admit that baseball as a sport has more fans in ALL ITS STADIUMS COMBINED then our ONE Stadium can hold? cause that is true...but its irrelevent, that's not where the money comes from, money comes from TV...and when it comes to that...all your baseball games combined in any given day put up against ONE Nascar race isn't even close, Nascar has 2 time if not more fans watching one race compared to all the fans watching all the baseball games any given day.

[MattMeyerBud]

There are 15 MLB games tonight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

The team with the worst attendance rating averages 16,672 fans a home game.

Tonight you have games in the following cities (accompanied with their average attendance)

Atlanta: 23,964 fans

Detroit: 27,890

Yankees: 44,635

Washington: 21,037

Pittsburgh: 16,672

Toronto: 23,405

Tampa Bay: 24,324

Florida: 18,404

Houston: 29,731

Minnesota: 25,987

White Sox: 25,551

St. Louis: 40,251

San Diego: 25,857

Seattle: 26,827

Dodgers: 43,598

This is the average each stadium hosting a game tonight will see.

This is more than the Nascar Sprint Cup race



388402 people.

Daytona is 200k+ for the CUP race and likely 100k for the Bush and 50k+ for the truck race, it's close LT, it's very close.

on the other hand the TV Audience isn't close, most of those games is only broadcast regionally, thus the reach if they are lucky,* 1/50th of the audience themselves.... is there 50 games tonight? no? then it won't even come close to the national appeal that Nascar has in any of their given races...and again, there is usually 3 races a week plus Qualifying and Happy Hour for the Cup race which is also televised in the end I'd GUESS roughly, that a Race weekend (combining all the things televised) is roughly equal to about 200 regionally broadcast Baseball games... how many Baseball Games a week are there?


where are u pulling this from? your ***? It is regional, but there is also baseball network. Dude this isn't even close... btw bad math... i just added the thousands and i got 409k so for ONE night of baseball (equivalent to ONE race) it ****s on it.. if u want to bring the othe rtwo races into it, then i'll just multiply the 409 x 3. not even close brotha...</P>


Matt, you don't get it.* If you go by total attendance it means nothing.* The NFL draws only about 17MM fans per year.* MLB draws closer to 60MM.* Which league do you think makes more money?</P>


baseball makes more money over all... no doubt... simply how it is structured...</P>


Are you trying to be funny?</P>


Its all about TV revs in football.* Baseball is about attendance and local TV in a few markets.</P>


Thats why NFL teams are worth so much more than baseball teams on average.</P>

10xs the amount of games for a sport of baseballs magnitude... i dunno man...



I won't speak on that...


but the standard needs to be this...

if nascar has three races a week...

and your going to have to use the three biggest nights in baseball and combine them and compare it to .

I just don't get how your going to say Nascar is more popular when in a night when all teams are playing more people are watching MLB around the country than are watching nascar.

Your going to throw fortune 500 companies spending advertizing, but go combine ALL the advertizing EVERY team gets...

[MattMeyerBud]

LT and MMB you guys seem to be stuck up on the Attendence thing, will you be happy if I admit that baseball as a sport has more fans in ALL ITS STADIUMS COMBINED then our ONE Stadium can hold? cause that is true...but its irrelevent, that's not where the money comes from, money comes from TV...and when it comes to that...all your baseball games combined in any given day put up against ONE Nascar race isn't even close, Nascar has 2 time if not more fans watching one race compared to all the fans watching all the baseball games any given day.


i would accept that argument from you if Nascar was selling out, its not...

u show me stats for that, there is no way thats true and thats my argument..

and lets JUST say what u say is true... there are FOUR times the amount of REGULAR season games (not counting playoffs) and so if its only DOUBLE the amount of viewers for nascar, thats still a win for baseball.

[bigblue4417]

More people watch Nascar than Baseball. How is that so hard for you to accept?

[bandwgn86]

you guys are ****ed..lol</P>


nascar is maybe the second favorite sport and Hockey barely registers a blip on the radar..hillbillies lol</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

More people watch Nascar than Baseball. How is that so hard for you to accept?


more people watch a nascar event then a single baseball game...

i accept that

u've yet to bring forward ANY stats that say otherwise

[MattMeyerBud]

you guys are ****ed..lol</P>


nascar is maybe the second favorite sport and Hockey barely registers a blip on the radar..hillbillies lol</P>

if it makes u feel any better, i'd watch hockey before i'd watch nascar lol

[bigblue4417]

If it makes u feel any better, i'd watch you strip before i'd watch nascar
Kinky ehh?