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dezzzR
07-18-2011, 09:52 AM
what other excuses did they have that they all decided - yea lets go with that one



lol thats exactly what I was thinking</p>


I guess it beat out the excuse of "our plane flew thru a force field of steroid like clouds, and we felt a little funny after that"....but it probably only won out by about 1 or 2 votes...</p>


</p>


Forget the soccer implications. This is simply instructions from Kim Jong Il.</p>


This isn't about sports. Its about North Korean political propaganda.</p>


This is the same country that claimed that Kim Jong Ill had 5 holes in one in his first golf game.</p>


Its a country that lives in a fantasy world.</p>


The athletics and athletes and coaches themselves are simply caught in the middle.</p>http://speakingkorea.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/north-and-south.jpg

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 09:53 AM
<FONT face=Arial>Morehead State</FONT> (/members/Morehead+State.aspx) </P>


How bout that 16th inning game last night?</P>


I could have gone, a friend had a free ticket. </P>


</P>


Those games are OK as long as you win. If you go 16. Blow through your bullpen and LOSE, thats really sucks.</P>


By the way, have I thanked you Yankee fans for Alfredo Aceves?</P>


If not, let me do it now.</P>

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 09:57 AM
what other excuses did they have that they all decided - yea lets go with that one



lol thats exactly what I was thinking</P>


I guess it beat out the excuse of "our plane flew thru a force field of steroid like clouds, and we felt a little funny after that"....but it probably only won out by about 1 or 2 votes...</P>


</P>


Forget the soccer implications. This is simply instructions from Kim Jong Il.</P>


This isn't about sports. Its about North Korean political propaganda.</P>


This is the same country that claimed that Kim Jong Ill had 5 holes in one in his first golf game.</P>


Its a country that lives in a fantasy world.</P>


The athletics and athletes and coaches themselves are simply caught in the middle.</P>


http://speakingkorea.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/north-and-south.jpg</P>


Yeah...this is a famous satellite photo. Its also a figurative message about how much "in the dark" North Korea really is.</P>

ny06
07-18-2011, 10:03 AM
<FONT face=Arial>Morehead State</FONT> (/members/Morehead+State.aspx) </P>


How bout that 16th inning game last night?</P>


I could have gone, a friend had a free ticket. </P>


</P>


Those games are OK as long as you win. If you go 16. Blow through your bullpen and LOSE, thats really sucks.</P>


By the way, have I thanked you Yankee fans for Alfredo Aceves?</P>


If not, let me do it now.</P>


</P>


You mean the same guy who won us 10 games in 09 and played in only 10 games the next season?</P>


We should be thanking you guys....</P>

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 10:09 AM
<FONT face=Arial>Morehead State</FONT> (/members/Morehead+State.aspx) </P>


How bout that 16th inning game last night?</P>


I could have gone, a friend had a free ticket. </P>


</P>


Those games are OK as long as you win. If you go 16. Blow through your bullpen and LOSE, thats really sucks.</P>


By the way, have I thanked you Yankee fans for Alfredo Aceves?</P>


If not, let me do it now.</P>


</P>


You mean the same guy who won us 10 games in 09 and played in only 10 games the next season?</P>


We should be thanking you guys....</P>


</P>


The guy has been great this year.Sort relief, long relief and spot starting. I would honestly say that he has won 3 or 4 games for us this year, minimum. Including last night.</P>


I really don't know about his Yankee experience. You guys never seem to like any of your players. But he's been a Godsend for us.</P>

ny06
07-18-2011, 10:13 AM
<FONT face=Arial>Morehead State</FONT> (/members/Morehead+State.aspx) </P>


How bout that 16th inning game last night?</P>


I could have gone, a friend had a free ticket. </P>


</P>


Those games are OK as long as you win. If you go 16. Blow through your bullpen and LOSE, thats really sucks.</P>


By the way, have I thanked you Yankee fans for Alfredo Aceves?</P>


If not, let me do it now.</P>


</P>


You mean the same guy who won us 10 games in 09 and played in only 10 games the next season?</P>


We should be thanking you guys....</P>


</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>The guy has been great this year.Sort relief, long relief and spot starting.</FONT> I would honestly say that he has won 3 or 4 games for us this year, minimum. Including last night.</P>


I really don't know about his Yankee experience. You guys never seem to like any of your players. But he's been a Godsend for us.</P>


</P>


He did the same for us in 09. </P>


</P>

ny06
07-18-2011, 10:16 AM
http://px9.funformobile.com/d/169/61/1fjdcjav7c/carlbanksle.gif

dezzzR
07-18-2011, 10:17 AM
<font face="Arial">Morehead State</font> (/members/Morehead+State.aspx) </p>


How bout that 16th inning game last night?</p>


I could have gone, a friend had a free ticket. </p>


</p>


Those games are OK as long as you win. If you go 16. Blow through your bullpen and LOSE, thats really sucks.</p>


By the way, have I thanked you Yankee fans for Alfredo Aceves?</p>


If not, let me do it now.</p>


</p>


You mean the same guy who won us 10 games in 09 and played in only 10 games the next season?</p>


We should be thanking you guys....</p>


</p>


The guy has been great this year.Sort relief, long relief and spot starting. I would honestly say that he has won 3 or 4 games for us this year, minimum. Including last night.</p>


I really don't know about his Yankee experience.<u> You guys never seem to like any of your players. </u>But he's been a Godsend for us.</p> its not like we didnt make moves to beef up the pen after we got rid of him.

dezzzR
07-18-2011, 10:18 AM
http://px9.funformobile.com/d/169/61/1fjdcjav7c/carlbanksle.giflmao awesome

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 11:49 AM
The guy has been great this year.Sort relief, long relief and spot starting. I would honestly say that he has won 3 or 4 games for us this year, minimum. Including last night.


I really don't know about his Yankee experience. You guys never seem to like any of your players. But he's been a Godsend for us.</P>


</P>


I liked Aceves when we had him, but this is what happened:

He was great in 09 for us. Competed for the 5th starter spot, but was chosen as a reliever because of how well Hughes did the year before and in preseason. He then got hurt early in the season, lost him for the year. He then asked for starter type money.....a reliever....after being out for a year...he wouldnt renegotiate, so we said hit the road.</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 11:59 AM
theres a rumor that Bradshaw may take his talents to South Beach

thoughts? (besides Pizz)

byron
07-18-2011, 12:11 PM
theres a rumor that Bradshaw may take his talents to South Beach

thoughts? (besides Pizz)
that would def suck if he did... I think he's our bestrb....this ****ing lockout sucks...I don't where these guys think the money's coming from..we are going to lose some guys</P>


wouldn't that leave us a bit short we dj...who else?</P>

byron
07-18-2011, 12:11 PM
theres a rumor that Bradshaw may take his talents to South Beach

thoughts? (besides Pizz)
double post.. jesus

shocknaweny
07-18-2011, 12:35 PM
Hey all....coulda sworn on the ESPN show I was listening to yesterday they said an agreement had been reached between the owners and players....guess not.

shocknaweny
07-18-2011, 12:36 PM
theres a rumor that Bradshaw may take his talents to South Beach

thoughts? (besides Pizz)
</P>


</P>


I'm ok with that....I mean I think he is a good back but the fumbles frustrated me last season...( he cost us a W' in hte Tennessee game ) and just the $$$ that is needed to sign him just is not worth it for a back with 2 bad ankles.</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 12:43 PM
theres a rumor that Bradshaw may take his talents to South Beach

thoughts? (besides Pizz)
</p>


</p>


I'm ok with that....I mean I think he is a good back but the fumbles frustrated me last season...( he cost us a W' in hte Tennessee game ) and just the $$$ that is needed to sign him just is not worth it for a back with 2 bad ankles.</p>

he also won a few games for us by dominating the ground

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 12:48 PM
theres a rumor that Bradshaw may take his talents to South Beach
</P>


can you elaborate?</P>

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 12:51 PM
I dont want to lose ANY players, but if there's a guy who doesn't want to be on our team, I guess I just say "ok, see ya"

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 12:52 PM
theres a rumor that Bradshaw may take his talents to South Beach
</p>


can you elaborate?</p>

uhm Bradshaw is interested in Miami as a place to sign as well as the Giants?

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 01:10 PM
I doubt it's a ploy to get more money or anything. Obviously teams would be interested. I assume he actually does want to play there maybe.
But if he RATHER play there....well, peace out, buddy.

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 01:16 PM
I doubt it's a ploy to get more money or anything. Obviously teams would be interested. I assume he actually does want to play there maybe.
But if he RATHER play there....well, peace out, buddy.

lol what? ur a fool if u think it doesn't have anything to do with negotiating

where did it say he'd rather play there?

ny06
07-18-2011, 01:17 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 01:22 PM
I doubt it's a ploy to get more money or anything. Obviously teams would be interested. I assume he actually does want to play there maybe.
But if he RATHER play there....well, peace out, buddy.

lol what? ur a fool if u think it doesn't have anything to do with negotiating

where did it say he'd rather play there?
</P>


ummm because he doesnt need a negotiating ploy. ALOT of teams would be interested. I'm sure he would take most good deals the Giants threw at him first, but I'm saying that it's not necessary for him in this scenario. only ****ty players, and players on awful teams pull moves like that.
"Miami will give me 7mill a year, what will you give me?"
Yes Ahmad, I'm sure alot of teams would give you 7 a year....that's my point.</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 01:22 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>

well we'll see how much he wnats to stay in NY because once its signed all teams will have like 3 days to resign players before free agency starts. So he'll have his shot

ny06
07-18-2011, 01:25 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>




well we'll see how much he wnats to stay in NY because once its signed all teams will have like 3 days to resign players before free agency starts. So he'll have his shot
</P>


They already stated he is a high priority, he may get more $ from other teams. But the Giants will not give him peanuts. </P>


And what would he rather do, go to a bad team and get paid. Or stay with a good team and get paid?</P>

byron
07-18-2011, 01:33 PM
What do you guys think he's worth given what we all know...ankle's may be weak?.the fumbles...how many years and how much money do you throw at him....

ny06
07-18-2011, 01:35 PM
What do you guys think he's worth given what we all know...ankle's may be weak?.the fumbles...how many years and how much money do you throw at him....</P>


5 year deal. </P>


incentive based contract. </P>


</P>

byron
07-18-2011, 01:41 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>




well we'll see how much he wnats to stay in NY because once its signed all teams will have like 3 days to resign players before free agency starts. So he'll have his shot
</P>


They already stated he is a high priority, he may get more $ from other teams. But the Giants will not give him peanuts. </P>


And what would he rather do, go to a bad team and get paid. Or stay with a good team and get paid?</P>I here ya... but when your talking even a mil difference your goinglook at that..maybe it time to give ware a real short...and get the rook on a fast track...I looked at some film of him showed good visionI like his size,has good hands,he can catch the ball....

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 01:42 PM
What do you guys think he's worth given what we all know...ankle's may be weak?.the fumbles...how many years and how much money do you throw at him....</P>


i literally know nothing of football contracts....nothing at all. I dont know whats good, what isnt, what's overpaid, whats underpaid...no idea. lol</P>

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 01:44 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>

ny06
07-18-2011, 01:45 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>




well we'll see how much he wnats to stay in NY because once its signed all teams will have like 3 days to resign players before free agency starts. So he'll have his shot
</P>


They already stated he is a high priority, he may get more $ from other teams. But the Giants will not give him peanuts. </P>


And what would he rather do, go to a bad team and get paid. Or stay with a good team and get paid?</P>


I here ya... but when your talking even a mil difference your goinglook at that..maybe it time to give ware a real short...and get the rook on a fast track...I looked at some film of him showed good visionI like his size,has good hands,he can catch the ball....</P>


D.J Ware has done nothing to warrant losing Bradshaw. </P>


Has he looked good in garbage time? Yes, does he have the size and speed to be a legitimate back in this league? Sure. But at the end of the day he is still an unproven player in this league. Bradshaw on the other hand has shown he can play at a high level in the NFL. </P>

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 01:45 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>




well we'll see how much he wnats to stay in NY because once its signed all teams will have like 3 days to resign players before free agency starts. So he'll have his shot
</p>


They already stated he is a high priority, he may get more $ from other teams. But the Giants will not give him peanuts. </p>


And what would he rather do, go to a bad team and get paid. Or stay with a good team and get paid?</p>

everybody is a different

ny06
07-18-2011, 01:47 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>


</P>


I would be very dissapointed if we lose Bradshaw. Cofield is a solid player and I would hate to see him go. But drafting 2 d-tackles in the 2nd round the past 2 seasons is a sure giveaway that Cofield is gone. </P>


DeAngelo Williams would be a nice pickup, but I can see him getting as much or even more then Bradshaw. </P>

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 01:50 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


</p>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>

Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong

byron
07-18-2011, 01:54 PM
What do you guys think he's worth given what we all know...ankle's may be weak?.the fumbles...how many years and how much money do you throw at him....</P>


i literally know nothing of football contracts....nothing at all. I dont know whats good, what isnt, what's overpaid, whats underpaid...no idea. lol</P>lol... me either they are complicated for sure.... the guaranteed money is the biggest problemI see in general but I understand why the players want it....I don't think it should exceed what you want to pay himfor year at least big contracts......I may way off here

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 01:57 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</P>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts. I could also see us cutting O'Hara and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</P>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</P>


</P>

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 01:59 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


agreed. better produiction on amediocre(or awful last year)team even while splitting time.</P>

ny06
07-18-2011, 02:02 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</P>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<FONT color=#0000ff> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</FONT> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</P>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</P>


</P>


</P>


O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</P>

byron
07-18-2011, 02:07 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


Money is going to play a big part in this oneI believe If I'm an owner I'm thinking about those ankles and fumbles how long has TC been trying to fix this he don't seem to get it ...I like AB I justdon't see a giant long termcontract here for him without a way out so it comes down to the guaranteed money no? Trying to understand.. guaranteed money goes against the cap?</P>

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 02:08 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


agreed. better produiction on amediocre(or awful last year)team even while splitting time.</P>


</P>


You must be thinking of a different player. DWill played 6 games last year. You guys don't think that teams might be spooked by a RB who is showing signs of brreaking down?</P>


Missed the last 3 games in 2009 (of course right after I traded for him in FF) and played only 6 games last year.</P>


We all know that clubs have been shying away from paying RB's a lot of FA money. Bradshaw has far fewer carries in his career and with RB's, thats a big deal. I say Bradshaw gets a better contract that DWill.</P>


How am I wrong? Remember Shawn Alexander?</P>

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 02:09 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


Money is going to play a big part in this oneI believe If I'm an owner I'm thinking about those ankles and fumbles how long has TC been trying to fix this he don't seem to get it ...I like AB I justdon't see a giant long termcontract here for him without a way out so it comes down to the guaranteed money no? Trying to understand.. guaranteed money goes against the cap?</P>


</P>


It only goes against the cap in the years its actually paid out.</P>

byron
07-18-2011, 02:13 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</P>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts. I could also see us cutting O'Hara and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</P>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</P>


</P> I get what your saying MH in my mindthis new argreementis going to change things quite bit....teams with cap space could benifit big time this year ...going to be a lot of good players out there I think.....

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 02:16 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</P>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts. I could also see us cutting O'Hara and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</P>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</P>


</P>


I get what your saying MH in my mindthis new argreementis going to change things quite bit....teams with cap space could benifit big time this year ...going to be a lot of good players out there I think.....</P>


The NFL is changing a lot. Teams will be required to spend at least 90% of their cap space on player salaries.</P>


I really don't know how thats going to effect teams' behavior. But it does prevent teams from cutting salary.</P>

byron
07-18-2011, 02:18 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


Money is going to play a big part in this oneI believe If I'm an owner I'm thinking about those ankles and fumbles how long has TC been trying to fix this he don't seem to get it ...I like AB I justdon't see a giant long termcontract here for him without a way out so it comes down to the guaranteed money no? Trying to understand.. guaranteed money goes against the cap?</P>


</P>


It only goes against the cap in the years its actually paid out.</P> ok...if a player never plays again after the first year of his contract due to injury...does he still get the guarantees?....probably a injuryclause ?...I'll stop now and thanks MH

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 02:23 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


agreed. better produiction on amediocre(or awful last year)team even while splitting time.</P>


</P>


You must be thinking of a different player. DWill played 6 games last year. You guys don't think that teams might be spooked by a RB who is showing signs of brreaking down?</P>


Missed the last 3 games in 2009 (of course right after I traded for him in FF) and played only 6 games last year.</P>


We all know that clubs have been shying away from paying RB's a lot of FA money. Bradshaw has far fewer carries in his career and with RB's, thats a big deal. I say Bradshaw gets a better contract that DWill.</P>


How am I wrong? Remember Shawn Alexander?</P>


</P>


ummm...because before he got hurt he had an amazing season.
and Bradshaw is an injury risk too.
So, how am I wrong?


D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really ****ing stupid.</P>

byron
07-18-2011, 02:25 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</P>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts. I could also see us cutting O'Hara and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</P>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</P>


</P>


I get what your saying MH in my mindthis new argreementis going to change things quite bit....teams with cap space could benifit big time this year ...going to be a lot of good players out there I think.....</P>


The NFL is changing a lot. Teams will be required to spend at least 90% of their cap space on player salaries.</P>


I really don't know how thats going to effect teams' behavior. But it does prevent teams from cutting salary.</P>yea I know that's up 10% from the last agreement ....well I think there will be more turnover for oneor smaller contracts for players in the future or both..which may mean perhaps more parody through out the league

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 02:53 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


agreed. better produiction on amediocre(or awful last year)team even while splitting time.</P>


</P>


You must be thinking of a different player. DWill played 6 games last year. You guys don't think that teams might be spooked by a RB who is showing signs of brreaking down?</P>


Missed the last 3 games in 2009 (of course right after I traded for him in FF) and played only 6 games last year.</P>


We all know that clubs have been shying away from paying RB's a lot of FA money. Bradshaw has far fewer carries in his career and with RB's, thats a big deal. I say Bradshaw gets a better contract that DWill.</P>


How am I wrong? Remember Shawn Alexander?</P>


</P>


ummm...because before he got hurt he had an amazing season.
and Bradshaw is an injury risk too.
So, how am I wrong?


D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really ****ing stupid.</P>


</P>


Stupid? Really.</P>


You meanstupid like describing a season where a guy plays 6 games, rushes for 361 yards. (60 yards/game) and a grand total of 1 TD, and calling that amazing?</P>


You mean that kind of stupid?</P>


Of course in your little world, when DWare gets 3 carries for 14 yards in a game, thats amazing.</P>


So I guess it depends on who you ask.</P>

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 03:10 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


agreed. better produiction on amediocre(or awful last year)team even while splitting time.</P>


</P>


You must be thinking of a different player. DWill played 6 games last year. You guys don't think that teams might be spooked by a RB who is showing signs of brreaking down?</P>


Missed the last 3 games in 2009 (of course right after I traded for him in FF) and played only 6 games last year.</P>


We all know that clubs have been shying away from paying RB's a lot of FA money. Bradshaw has far fewer carries in his career and with RB's, thats a big deal. I say Bradshaw gets a better contract that DWill.</P>


How am I wrong? Remember Shawn Alexander?</P>


</P>


ummm...because before he got hurt he had an amazing season.
and Bradshaw is an injury risk too.
So, how am I wrong?


D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really ****ing stupid.</P>


</P>


Stupid? Really.</P>


You meanstupid like describing a season where a guy plays 6 games, rushes for 361 yards. (60 yards/game) and a grand total of 1 TD, and calling that amazing?</P>


You mean that kind of stupid?</P>


Of course in your little world, when DWare gets 3 carries for 14 yards in a game, thats amazing.</P>


So I guess it depends on who you ask.</P>


</P>


a guy from the worst team in the NFL gets hurt and youre basing a season off that? lol ok.
you go right ahead and do that.

meanwhile, on planet earth, the rest of us know D-Will is a threat when healthy.
AND since he was effective prior to injury, and has proven he can produce even while splitting carries, he'll get paid also. And likely more than AB since he has more time under his belt.</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 03:11 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


</p>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</p>


agreed. better produiction on amediocre(or awful last year)team even while splitting time.</p>


</p>


You must be thinking of a different player. DWill played 6 games last year. You guys don't think that teams might be spooked by a RB who is showing signs of brreaking down?</p>


Missed the last 3 games in 2009 (of course right after I traded for him in FF) and played only 6 games last year.</p>


We all know that clubs have been shying away from paying RB's a lot of FA money. Bradshaw has far fewer carries in his career and with RB's, thats a big deal. I say Bradshaw gets a better contract that DWill.</p>


How am I wrong? Remember Shawn Alexander?</p>


</p>


ummm...because before he got hurt he had an amazing season.
and Bradshaw is an injury risk too.
So, how am I wrong?


D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really ****ing stupid.</p>


</p>


Stupid? Really.</p>


You meanstupid like describing a season where a guy plays 6 games, rushes for 361 yards. (60 yards/game) and a grand total of 1 TD, and calling that amazing?</p>


You mean that kind of stupid?</p>


Of course in your little world, when DWare gets 3 carries for 14 yards in a game, thats amazing.</p>


So I guess it depends on who you ask.</p>

ouch

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 03:14 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


</p>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</p>


agreed. better produiction on amediocre(or awful last year)team even while splitting time.</p>


</p>


You must be thinking of a different player. DWill played 6 games last year. You guys don't think that teams might be spooked by a RB who is showing signs of brreaking down?</p>


Missed the last 3 games in 2009 (of course right after I traded for him in FF) and played only 6 games last year.</p>


We all know that clubs have been shying away from paying RB's a lot of FA money. Bradshaw has far fewer carries in his career and with RB's, thats a big deal. I say Bradshaw gets a better contract that DWill.</p>


How am I wrong? Remember Shawn Alexander?</p>


</p>


ummm...because before he got hurt he had an amazing season.
and Bradshaw is an injury risk too.
So, how am I wrong?


D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really ****ing stupid.</p>


</p>


Stupid? Really.</p>


You meanstupid like describing a season where a guy plays 6 games, rushes for 361 yards. (60 yards/game) and a grand total of 1 TD, and calling that amazing?</p>


You mean that kind of stupid?</p>


Of course in your little world, when DWare gets 3 carries for 14 yards in a game, thats amazing.</p>


So I guess it depends on who you ask.</p>


</p>


a guy from the worst team in the NFL gets hurt and youre basing a season off that? lol ok.
you go right ahead and do that.

meanwhile, on planet earth, the rest of us know D-Will is a threat when healthy.
AND since he was effective prior to injury, and has proven he can produce even while splitting carries, he'll get paid also. And likely more than AB since he has more time under his belt.</p>

well i think a few things are certainly clear... Dwill is on the downside of his career and Bradshaw is on the rise

DWill is the top FA and will get more if not the same than Bradshaw

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 03:17 PM
DWill is the top FA and will get more if not the same than Bradshaw
</P>


basically what i said...
confused as to how anyone could argue it. but, MH will jsut do it to do it pretty much. so its fine, i get it.
Not all of us are homers and on AB's ****.....remember that.</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 03:28 PM
DWill is the top FA and will get more if not the same than Bradshaw
</p>


basically what i said...
confused as to how anyone could argue it. but, MH will jsut do it to do it pretty much. so its fine, i get it.
Not all of us are homers and on AB's ****.....remember that.</p>

it has nothing to do with homerism or not. I would totally take AB over Dwill at this point...

but the market is what the market is....

lawl
07-18-2011, 03:42 PM
Here's how I see it-

Andrews is cut for sure, idk if he'll get resigned with a smaller salary.

Reese said that AB is his top priority this offseason and Jacobs even went to say that he'd restructure to get AB signed.

Unless other teams are willing to take a huge risk on smith and kiwi, I see them both coming back on 1yr deals to reestablish value.

Cofield is gone, pretty much no way around that.

Osi might get shipped out, depends if he's really going to play hardball.

-don't be surprised to see Ohara cut

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 03:45 PM
Here's how I see it-

Andrews is cut for sure, idk if he'll get resigned with a smaller salary.

Reese said that AB is his top priority this offseason and Jacobs even went to say that he'd restructure to get AB signed.

Unless other teams are willing to take a huge risk on smith and kiwi, I see them both coming back on 1yr deals to reestablish value.

Cofield is gone, pretty much no way around that.

Osi might get shipped out, depends if he's really going to play hardball.

-don't be surprised to see Ohara cut

i woul dbe surprised to see Ohara cut

I see Bernard cut

Osi will probably be here

Smith will get multi year

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 03:46 PM
DWill is the top FA and will get more if not the same than Bradshaw
</P>


basically what i said...
confused as to how anyone could argue it. but, MH will jsut do it to do it pretty much. so its fine, i get it.
Not all of us are homers and on AB's ****.....remember that.</P>




it has nothing to do with homerism or not. I would totally take AB over Dwill at this point...

but the market is what the market is....


</P>


I rather have AB also.
He's already a Giant...I prefer to retain employees ;)</P>

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 03:49 PM
Here's how I see it- Andrews is cut for sure, idk if he'll get resigned with a smaller salary. Reese said that AB is his top priority this offseason and Jacobs even went to say that he'd restructure to get AB signed. Unless other teams are willing to take a huge risk on smith and kiwi, I see them both coming back on 1yr deals to reestablish value. Cofield is gone, pretty much no way around that. Osi might get shipped out, depends if he's really going to play hardball. -don't be surprised to see Ohara cut

i woul dbe surprised to see Ohara cut

I see Bernard cut

Osi will probably be here

Smith will get multi year
</P>


agree with all those things.
Osi kinda up in the air. but I just dont see another team offering anything substantial if they consider him a risk of any kind.
I kinda wonder how our season would have turned out had we had a healthy WR depth
Oh, and I assume Cofield is out.</P>

lawl
07-18-2011, 04:07 PM
Here's how I see it-

Andrews is cut for sure, idk if he'll get resigned with a smaller salary.

Reese said that AB is his top priority this offseason and Jacobs even went to say that he'd restructure to get AB signed.

Unless other teams are willing to take a huge risk on smith and kiwi, I see them both coming back on 1yr deals to reestablish value.

Cofield is gone, pretty much no way around that.

Osi might get shipped out, depends if he's really going to play hardball.

-don't be surprised to see Ohara cut

i woul dbe surprised to see Ohara cut

I see Bernard cut

Osi will probably be here

Smith will get multi year


We're not going into the season with 3 DTs....

Ohara make like 5 a year and when he actually plays is rather useless.

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 04:16 PM
Here's how I see it-

Andrews is cut for sure, idk if he'll get resigned with a smaller salary.

Reese said that AB is his top priority this offseason and Jacobs even went to say that he'd restructure to get AB signed.

Unless other teams are willing to take a huge risk on smith and kiwi, I see them both coming back on 1yr deals to reestablish value.

Cofield is gone, pretty much no way around that.

Osi might get shipped out, depends if he's really going to play hardball.

-don't be surprised to see Ohara cut

i woul dbe surprised to see Ohara cut

I see Bernard cut

Osi will probably be here

Smith will get multi year


We're not going into the season with 3 DTs....

Ohara make like 5 a year and when he actually plays is rather useless.

actually ur right about bernard, i dunno. I'd say we're more likely to cut and replace a DT than Ohara. OHara is due for like 3.5 this year and Bernard is due for 3 this year and 2.5 next year....

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 04:17 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?

bigblue4417
07-18-2011, 04:33 PM
Walking tall: CC Sabathia has been utterly fantastic over the last
month: Five starts, five wins, 5.56 K:BB ratio, an ERA of 0.45 and a
WHIP that's a paltry 0.857. That's the definition of an ace. <font color="#0000FF">Perhaps
he's sniffing that opt-out clause? </font>

lawl
07-18-2011, 04:39 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?


If the pick is a 2nd rounder

MattMeyerBud
07-18-2011, 04:39 PM
Walking tall: CC Sabathia has been utterly fantastic over the last
month: Five starts, five wins, 5.56 K:BB ratio, an ERA of 0.45 and a
WHIP that's a paltry 0.857. That's the definition of an ace. <font color="#0000ff">Perhaps
he's sniffing that opt-out clause? </font>

hes gonna get crazy dough - as a yankee

top paid pitcher in baseball, watch

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 05:00 PM
Walking tall: CC Sabathia has been utterly fantastic over the last
month: Five starts, five wins, 5.56 K:BB ratio, an ERA of 0.45 and a
WHIP that's a paltry 0.857. That's the definition of an ace. <font color="#0000FF">Perhaps
he's sniffing that opt-out clause? </font>

check CC's summer numbers. he's always phenomenal. Actually, august is his best month, so we'll see whats up. The Yanks have a ****LOAD of money saved up from the staying quiet the past 2 seasons with signings and such. CC is totally worth top pitcher money.
Unless there are ton of pitchers who literally average over 17 wins a season.
(Hint: there aren't)

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 05:01 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?


If the pick is a 2nd rounder

2nd prob. hiiiighly unlikely, but **** yea i'd do that. lol

bandwgn86
07-18-2011, 05:03 PM
Walking tall: CC Sabathia has been utterly fantastic over the last
month: Five starts, five wins, 5.56 K:BB ratio, an ERA of 0.45 and a
WHIP that's a paltry 0.857. That's the definition of an ace. <font color="#0000FF">Perhaps
he's sniffing that opt-out clause? </font>the Jays would have put it on him but were afraid they would get accused of cheating again..

bandwgn86
07-18-2011, 05:05 PM
afternoon all

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 05:07 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


agreed. better produiction on amediocre(or awful last year)team even while splitting time.</P>


</P>


You must be thinking of a different player. DWill played 6 games last year. You guys don't think that teams might be spooked by a RB who is showing signs of brreaking down?</P>


Missed the last 3 games in 2009 (of course right after I traded for him in FF) and played only 6 games last year.</P>


We all know that clubs have been shying away from paying RB's a lot of FA money. Bradshaw has far fewer carries in his career and with RB's, thats a big deal. I say Bradshaw gets a better contract that DWill.</P>


How am I wrong? Remember Shawn Alexander?</P>


</P>


ummm...because before he got hurt he had an amazing season.
and Bradshaw is an injury risk too.
So, how am I wrong?


D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really ****ing stupid.</P>


</P>


Stupid? Really.</P>


You meanstupid like describing a season where a guy plays 6 games, rushes for 361 yards. (60 yards/game) and a grand total of 1 TD, and calling that amazing?</P>


You mean that kind of stupid?</P>


Of course in your little world, when DWare gets 3 carries for 14 yards in a game, thats amazing.</P>


So I guess it depends on who you ask.</P>


</P>


a guy from the worst team in the NFL gets hurt and youre basing a season off that? lol ok.
you go right ahead and do that.

meanwhile, on planet earth, the rest of us know D-Will is a threat when healthy.
AND since he was effective prior to injury, and has proven he can produce even while splitting carries, he'll get paid also. And likely more than AB since he has more time under his belt.</P>


</P>


But thats not what you said Pizz. You said that Dwill was having "an amazing" season before he got hurt. No big deal Pizz. Its OK to be wrong once in a while. But then you suggested that anyone who doesn't see it your way, is stupid.</P>


I would submit he was having one of his worst seasons. He was averaging 60 yards per game.</P>


You can spew whatever you want about a bad team, but no matter how you spin it, his season was far from amazing.</P>


The point is that he will scare off some teams due to his injury history of the past 2 years. recent history has shown that RB's with his recent kind of injury history, don't command big contracts.</P>

lawl
07-18-2011, 05:09 PM
AB has had his fair share of ankle and foot injuries himself.

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 05:47 PM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not)* I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


agreed. better produiction on a*mediocre(or awful last year)*team even while splitting time.</P>


</P>


You must be thinking of a different player.* DWill played 6 games last year.** You guys don't think that teams might be spooked by a RB who is showing signs of brreaking down?</P>


Missed the last 3 games in 2009 (of course right after I traded for him in FF) and played only 6 games last year.</P>


We all know that clubs have been shying away from paying RB's a lot of FA money.* Bradshaw has far fewer carries in his career and with RB's, thats a big deal.* I say Bradshaw gets a better contract that DWill.</P>


How am I wrong?** Remember Shawn Alexander?</P>


</P>


ummm...because before he got hurt he had an amazing season.
and Bradshaw is an injury risk too.
So, how am I wrong?


D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really ****ing stupid.</P>


</P>


Stupid?* Really.</P>


You mean*stupid like describing a season where a guy plays 6 games, rushes for 361 yards. (60 yards/game) and a grand total of 1 TD, and calling that amazing?</P>


You mean that kind of stupid?</P>


Of course in your little world, when DWare gets 3 carries for 14 yards in a game, thats amazing.</P>


So I guess it depends on who you ask.</P>


</P>


a guy from the worst team in the NFL gets hurt and youre basing a season off that? lol ok.
you go right ahead and do that.

meanwhile, on planet earth, the rest of us know D-Will is a threat when healthy.
AND since he was effective prior to injury, and has proven he can produce even while splitting carries, he'll get paid also. And likely more than AB since he has more time under his belt.</P>


</P>


But thats not what you said Pizz.** You said that Dwill was having "an amazing" season before he got hurt.* No big deal Pizz.* Its OK to be wrong once in a while.* But then you suggested that anyone who doesn't see it your way, is stupid.</P>


I would submit he was having one of his worst seasons.* He was averaging 60 yards per game.</P>


You can spew whatever you want about a bad team, but no matter how you spin it, his season was far from amazing.</P>


The point is that he will scare off some teams due to his injury history of the past 2 years.* recent history has shown that RB's with his recent kind of injury history, don't command big contracts.</P>

the season prior to his injury.

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 05:49 PM
AB has had his fair share of ankle and foot injuries himself.

Morehead doesnt care about that. he rather argue semantics.

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 06:25 PM
AB has had his fair share of ankle and foot injuries himself. Morehead doesnt care about that. he rather argue semantics.</P>


If by that you mean that I am willing to call you out on what you say, then yes.</P>


You claimed that Dwill was having an amazing year and I felt compelled to correct the record.</P>


Bradshaw was injured in 09, but played and entire season in 2010. Had over 1200 yards. In that same season, Dwill played in 6 games and missed most of the season due to injury. It is most certainly not unreasonable to suggest that Bradshaw with far less carries in his career and a recent history of good health, would command a better contract.</P>


You can make an argument to the contrary, but certainly its not "stupid" to suggest otherwise.</P>


But don't worry Pizz, I am still warming up to you.</P>

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 06:50 PM
AB has had his fair share of ankle and foot injuries himself. Morehead doesnt care about that. he rather argue semantics.</P>


If by that you mean that I am willing to call you out on what you say, then yes.</P>


You claimed that Dwill was having an amazing year and I felt compelled to correct the record.</P>


Bradshaw was injured in 09, but played and entire season in 2010.* Had over 1200 yards.* In that same season, Dwill played in 6 games and missed most of the season due to injury.* It is most certainly not unreasonable to suggest that Bradshaw with far less carries in his career and a recent history of good health, would command a better contract.</P>


You can make an argument to the contrary, but certainly its not "stupid" to suggest otherwise.</P>


But don't worry Pizz, I am still warming up to you.</P>

If you dont realize that Deangelo Williams had 2 great seasons before last year when he got injured, then you just can't read I guess....
I never said he was good last year. I said he had 2 good seasons before he got hurt.
Both Stewart and Williams were bad last year. I never denied that, or said otherwise.

I said u were arguing semantics because I said "He had an amazing season before he got hurt" meaning the year before the year he got injured.
Not that he was playing well in the 6 games he played last season.

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 07:31 PM
AB has had his fair share of ankle and foot injuries himself. Morehead doesnt care about that. he rather argue semantics.</P>


If by that you mean that I am willing to call you out on what you say, then yes.</P>


You claimed that Dwill was having an amazing year and I felt compelled to correct the record.</P>


Bradshaw was injured in 09, but played and entire season in 2010. Had over 1200 yards. In that same season, Dwill played in 6 games and missed most of the season due to injury. It is most certainly not unreasonable to suggest that Bradshaw with far less carries in his career and a recent history of good health, would command a better contract.</P>


You can make an argument to the contrary, but certainly its not "stupid" to suggest otherwise.</P>


But don't worry Pizz, I am still warming up to you.</P>


If you dont realize that Deangelo Williams had 2 great seasons before last year when he got injured, then you just can't read I guess.... I never said he was good last year. I said he had 2 good seasons before he got hurt. Both Stewart and Williams were bad last year. I never denied that, or said otherwise. I said u were arguing semantics because I said "He had an amazing season before he got hurt" meaning the year before the year he got injured. Not that he was playing well in the 6 games he played last season.</P>


Nice try to walk that one back Pizz. I corrected you by saying that he played only 6 games, and your response was that his season was amazing before he got hurt. You responded directly to my post.</P>


If you are saying that its YOU who can't read, then I guess I will accept your misunderstanding. Since I was clearly referring to 2010 since I metioned his only playing 6 games.</P>


Point is that he missed the last 3 games of 2009 and missed 10 games last year. Not exactly the kind of stuff that inspired confidence in prospective suitors for his services.</P>


Bradshaw on the other hand, was hurt in 2009 but continued to play through it and was essentially injury free last year. I would think that pragmatic GM's would have serious reservations about DWill.</P>


I would think he'll find a team, but I doubt he'll get the kind of contract you seem to think he will.</P>

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 07:37 PM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good.
So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that.
You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said.
Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 07:51 PM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</P>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</P>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</P>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</P>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</P>


2. DWill has missed 13</P>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</P>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</P>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</P>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</P>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</P>


</P>


</P>

JPizzack
07-18-2011, 08:15 PM
wow Morehead....why are you still comparing Bradshaw and Williams? what the hell do I care?
Did I ever even compare the 2 ever? Did I say Williams is better than AB? Find me that post. Still trying to figure out why you're talking.
I said what Matt said, that they would get the same type of deal but would guess Williams would get more. People like numbers.

bigblue4417
07-18-2011, 08:23 PM
<font color="#0000FF" size="4">For Dez...</font>

<span id="intelliTXT">

Jay-Z has quotedNotorious B.I.G. (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.15824/title.clayton-hill-confesses-to-being-an-accessory-after-the-fact-to-the-murder-of-the-notorious-big)'s lyrics several times in his music, weaving his rhymes into his own verses. In an interview with Roc4Life (http://www.roc4life.com/profiles/blogs/video-jay-z-a-world-with-amnes), Hov explains that his quoting B.I.G. is to keep his name alive and inspire his raps.</p>


“There was a vow in that song about Big. So doing that was my way of
always keeping him fresh and keeping his music fresh on everyone's
mind,” he said. “So I'm inspired by music and I'm a fan and a historian.
I study music and different emotions and things like that. So, if I'm
inspired by it, I just use it. It's not a crutch for me. I can write a
song without using anyone’s lyric at all.”</p>


He goes on to quote his line on “What More Can I Say,” where he raps,
“I say a Big verse, I’m only bigging up my brother.” He justifies his
approach by explaining that he doesn’t need to prove he can write raps,
as his abilities show for it.</p>


“That sums the whole thing up. Be comfortable with yourself and your
ability. You don’t have that insecurity when people say, ‘Oh he stealing
homeboy’s lyrics, he can’t write a rap.’ We can sit down next to
anybody and write two verses. They could write and I could sit up there
and come with a verse and we can see who comes up with a better verse
any day.”</p></span>

lttaylor56
07-18-2011, 09:50 PM
Kenny Powers &amp; Jeremy Shockey Video</P>


</P>


http://youtu.be/cXiy9DWanSU</P>

Morehead State
07-18-2011, 10:06 PM
wow Morehead....why are you still comparing Bradshaw and Williams? what the hell do I care? Did I ever even compare the 2 ever? Did I say Williams is better than AB? Find me that post. Still trying to figure out why you're talking. I said what Matt said, that they would get the same type of deal but would guess Williams would get more. People like numbers.</P>


Yes you did.</P>


<FONT size=2>D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really *** stupid.</FONT></P>


......Pizzlestick</P>


Not only do you think Dwill will get a better contract, but you suggest if you think otherwise, you must be stupid.</P>


I am really fine with your view about this. But since you claim that if you disagree you must be stupid, I felt I must retort.</P>

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 08:30 AM
wow Morehead....why are you still comparing Bradshaw and Williams? what the hell do I care? Did I ever even compare the 2 ever? Did I say Williams is better than AB? Find me that post. Still trying to figure out why you're talking. I said what Matt said, that they would get the same type of deal but would guess Williams would get more. People like numbers.</P>


Yes you did.</P>


<FONT size=2>D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really *** stupid.</FONT></P>


......Pizzlestick</P>


Not only do you think Dwill will get a better contract, but you suggest if you think otherwise, you must be stupid.</P>


I am really fine with your view about this. But since you claim that if you disagree you must be stupid, I felt I must retort.</P>


</P>


I thought we were done?</P>

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 09:20 AM
Good Morning all!!!! Those kenny Power vids are widespread for those new snakers...also some great bits with the ufc fighter ariah...

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 09:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/vyYT4.jpg

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 09:39 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>

he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 09:40 AM
I hope this day goes by fast.....it's DEAD!!!

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 09:42 AM
I hope this day goes by fast.....it's DEAD!!!I noticed this weekend. People have been staying in during the heat. *******!

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 09:44 AM
Thought you were getting your Riggins Avatar up!

FNL-The series finale was Friday night. A very somber episode, it was an hour and a half. I liked how they tied it all together in the last 5 minutes. Great scene when Matt Serensen asked Coach Taylor for Julies hand in marriage, Riggins building his house with his brother on his property and coach was in PA coaching his new team.

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 09:51 AM
Thought you were getting your Riggins Avatar up!

FNL-The series finale was Friday night. A very somber episode, it was an hour and a half. I liked how they tied it all together in the last 5 minutes. Great scene when Matt Serensen asked Coach Taylor for Julies hand in marriage, Riggins building his house with his brother on his property and coach was in PA coaching his new team.
</P>


I know! I keep forgetting!</P>


Yea good closure on that episode I feel....
Glad to see things working out for everyone. It was good.</P>

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 09:52 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>

he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
****ing AB-If he starts dropping the ball all over the field again this year-I have no use for him.

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 09:54 AM
Thought you were getting your Riggins Avatar up!

FNL-The series finale was Friday night. A very somber episode, it was an hour and a half. I liked how they tied it all together in the last 5 minutes. Great scene when Matt Serensen asked Coach Taylor for Julies hand in marriage, Riggins building his house with his brother on his property and coach was in PA coaching his new team.
</p>


I know! I keep forgetting!</p>


Yea good closure on that episode I feel....
Glad to see things working out for everyone. It was good.</p>Yes-I def enjoyed it. Sorry to see FNL go. I may watch some King of Thrones on demand now. Any idea when Kenny Powers gets going?

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 09:55 AM
wow Morehead....why are you still comparing Bradshaw and Williams? what the hell do I care? Did I ever even compare the 2 ever? Did I say Williams is better than AB? Find me that post. Still trying to figure out why you're talking. I said what Matt said, that they would get the same type of deal but would guess Williams would get more. People like numbers.</P>


Yes you did.</P>


<FONT size=2>D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really *** stupid.</FONT></P>


......Pizzlestick</P>


Not only do you think Dwill will get a better contract, but you suggest if you think otherwise, you must be stupid.</P>


I am really fine with your view about this. But since you claim that if you disagree you must be stupid, I felt I must retort.</P>


</P>


I thought we were done?</P>


</P>


Well this was from last night.</P>


But as you know its not over until Morehead says its over.</P>

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 09:59 AM
wow Morehead....why are you still comparing Bradshaw and Williams? what the hell do I care? Did I ever even compare the 2 ever? Did I say Williams is better than AB? Find me that post. Still trying to figure out why you're talking. I said what Matt said, that they would get the same type of deal but would guess Williams would get more. People like numbers.</p>


Yes you did.</p>


<font size="2">D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really *** stupid.</font></p>


......Pizzlestick</p>


Not only do you think Dwill will get a better contract, but you suggest if you think otherwise, you must be stupid.</p>


I am really fine with your view about this. But since you claim that if you disagree you must be stupid, I felt I must retort.</p>


</p>


I thought we were done?</p>


</p>


Well this was from last night.</p>


But as you know its not over until Morehead says its over.</p>lmao

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 10:00 AM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


</p>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</p>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</p>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<font color="#0000ff"> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</font> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</p>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</p>


</p>


</p>


O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</p>no love for ohara???

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 10:02 AM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


</p>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</p>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</p>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<font color="#0000ff"> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</font> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</p>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</p>


</p>


</p>


O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</p>no love for ohara???
It's gotta be the questionable injury.

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 10:03 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</P>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</P>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</P>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</P>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</P>


2. DWill has missed 13</P>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</P>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</P>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</P>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</P>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</P>


</P>


</P>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</P>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</P>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</P>

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 10:03 AM
Yes-I def enjoyed it. Sorry to see FNL go. I may watch some King of Thrones on demand now. Any idea when Kenny Powers gets going?
</P>


Game of Thrones? It's nominated for like 14 emmys.
awesome ****in' show.</P>

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 10:07 AM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


</P>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</P>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</P>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<FONT color=#0000ff> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</FONT> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</P>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</P>


</P>


</P>


O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</P>


no love for ohara???
</P>


I think Ohara is a good football player. But the reality of the Giants cap situation may force JR to make some very tough decisions. We'd like to keep everybody and sign a few outside free agents, but that just aint happening.</P>


Thats why I figure we have the best chance to resign both Kiwi and Smith since they are coming off injuries and would probably not do especially well in free agency.</P>


As for Cofield and Bradshaw, they are likely to do very well in free agency and we may not be able to compete in a bidding war. I would say given our drafts over the past 2 years, Cofield will most likely be gone.</P>

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 10:07 AM
i have a stupid question. a team can renew a players contracts at any time, right? like the giants can give osi a new contract any time the feel its necessary or they can only give him a new contract during free agency?

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 10:08 AM
Yes-I def enjoyed it. Sorry to see FNL go. I may watch some King of Thrones on demand now. Any idea when Kenny Powers gets going?
</p>


Game of Thrones? It's nominated for like 14 emmys.
awesome ****in' show.</p>"game" yeah. I am leaning towards checking it out.

So after 14 hours in the sun this past weekend.....your skin pigmentation resembles an illegal?

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 10:11 AM
so what was worked out in this lockout? hows the game going to change? is it for the worst?

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 10:13 AM
i have a stupid question. a team can renew a players contracts at any time, right? like the giants can give osi a new contract any time the feel its necessary or they can only give him a new contract during free agency?
</P>


Osi isn't a free agent. We can give him a new deal/extension (after the lockout is lifted) at any time. As for our own free agents (bradshaw/Cofield etc...) we will be able to negotiate with them exclusively (by exclusively I mean that no other teams can contact them) for probably three days starting on Monday. On Thursday (according to reports) open free agency will begin.</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 10:13 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</p>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</p>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</p>

this sounds like a bet

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 10:14 AM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


</p>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</p>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</p>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<font color="#0000ff"> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</font> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</p>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</p>


</p>


</p>


O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</p>


no love for ohara???
</p>


I think Ohara is a good football player. But the reality of the Giants cap situation may force JR to make some very tough decisions. We'd like to keep everybody and sign a few outside free agents, but that just aint happening.</p>


Thats why I figure we have the best chance to resign both Kiwi and Smith since they are coming off injuries and would probably not do especially well in free agency.</p>


As for Cofield and Bradshaw, they are likely to do very well in free agency and we may not be able to compete in a bidding war. I would say given our drafts over the past 2 years, Cofield will most likely be gone.</p>

OHara may restructure

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 10:14 AM
Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down<FONT color=#0000ff> (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider</FONT>) tend not to do well in free agency.</P>


</P>


Right, except Bradshaw is an injury risk too. He played a full season last year, which is why he was able to produce the way he did obviously.
Deangelo had a season ending injury last season as we've discussed. But prior to that he had 2 great seasons, and thats while splitting carries.
So, basically you say he's an injury risk, therefore might not get alot of money. But I'm saying the same exact thing could be said about Bradshaw. That was my point!!!! Just like Matt had stated.
And with Bradshaws issues putting the ball on the ground, I just think Deangelo has a better shot at more $
Side note...the year Williams had 1500 yards, he didn't fumble once. impressive.</P>

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 10:16 AM
so what was worked out in this lockout? hows the game going to change? is it for the worst?
</P>


I think the biggest change is the minimum of 90% of the cap total that each team is required to spend on players.</P>


That is actually a huge deal for the players. Teams can't sit back and simply build through the draft. they will actually be foced to sign free agents essentially.</P>


Teams like Indy and Pittsburghmay have to change, what has been very successful methods.</P>

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 10:19 AM
i have a stupid question. a team can renew a players contracts at any time, right? like the giants can give osi a new contract any time the feel its necessary or they can only give him a new contract during free agency?
</p>


Osi isn't a free agent. We can give him a new deal/extension (after the lockout is lifted) at any time. As for our own free agents (bradshaw/Cofield etc...) we will be able to negotiate with them exclusively (by exclusively I mean that no other teams can contact them) for probably three days starting on Monday. On Thursday (according to reports) open free agency will begin.</p>i know he isnt. thanks brrro

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 10:19 AM
Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down<FONT color=#0000ff> (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider</FONT>) tend not to do well in free agency.</P>


</P>


Right, except Bradshaw is an injury risk too. He played a full season last year, which is why he was able to produce the way he did obviously.
Deangelo had a season ending injury last season as we've discussed. But prior to that he had 2 great seasons, and thats while splitting carries.
So, basically you say he's an injury risk, therefore might not get alot of money. But I'm saying the same exact thing could be said about Bradshaw. That was my point!!!! Just like Matt had stated.
And with Bradshaws issues putting the ball on the ground, I just think Deangelo has a better shot at more $
Side note...the year Williams had 1500 yards, he didn't fumble once. impressive.</P>


</P>


In my view, Dwill has some good years left. But his recent history might suggest otherwise.</P>


All NFL players are an injury risk. The point is that Bradshaw (who was also splitting carries) had a good season last year and played through injury in 2009.</P>


Williams has missed 13 games in the past two seasons. Bradshaw has missed 1. Thats going to hurt his chances of getting a huge deal.</P>

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 10:20 AM
cool article on Bill Simmons' "Grantland" website about Free Agents that GMs will avoid</P>


http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6782227/free-agents-meet-hell</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 10:20 AM
so what was worked out in this lockout? hows the game going to change? is it for the worst?
</p>


I think the biggest change is the minimum of 90% of the cap total that each team is required to spend on players.</p>


That is actually a huge deal for the players. Teams can't sit back and simply build through the draft. they will actually be foced to sign free agents essentially.</p>


Teams like Indy and Pittsburghmay have to change, what has been very successful methods.</p>

no really because they draft so well that they end up paying their picks and they both sitll have pretty high salaries

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 10:22 AM
I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


</p>


If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>




Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
</p>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</p>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<font color="#0000ff"> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</font> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</p>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</p>


</p>


</p>


O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</p>


no love for ohara???
</p>


I think Ohara is a good football player. But the reality of the Giants cap situation may force JR to make some very tough decisions. We'd like to keep everybody and sign a few outside free agents, but that just aint happening.</p>


Thats why I figure we have the best chance to resign both Kiwi and Smith since they are coming off injuries and would probably not do especially well in free agency.</p>


As for Cofield and Bradshaw, they are likely to do very well in free agency and we may not be able to compete in a bidding war. I would say given our drafts over the past 2 years, Cofield will most likely be gone.</p>

OHara may restructure
Did he return and finish the season last year from his foot? I can't recall if he permanently returned?

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 10:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_9Yxr0blo&amp;feature=player_embedded

lol kenny powers.

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 10:24 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</P>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</P>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</P>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</P>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</P>


2. DWill has missed 13</P>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</P>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</P>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</P>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</P>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</P>


</P>


</P>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</P>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</P>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</P>




this sounds like a bet
</P>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</P>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </P>

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 10:28 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</p>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</p>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</p>




this sounds like a bet
</p>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</p>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </p>

regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 10:32 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</P>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</P>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</P>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</P>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</P>


2. DWill has missed 13</P>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</P>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</P>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</P>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</P>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</P>


</P>


</P>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</P>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</P>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</P>




this sounds like a bet
</P>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</P>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </P>




regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw
</P>


I'd like to keep Bradshaw, and I think he feels a certain loyalty to us for giving him a chance. But given our cap situation, its going to be tough.</P>


The article that Pizz cited supports my view on RB's in the NFL. Thats why I think we have an outside shot at Dwill. Notice I said "outside". Maybe 1 in 10.</P>


But there is a real chance that we will lose Bradshaw and have BJ and the young guys left. I like BJ persoanlly. i think he a really good player. But he would be more effective with a change of pace kind of guy to complement him.</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 10:35 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</p>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</p>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</p>




this sounds like a bet
</p>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</p>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </p>




regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw
</p>


I'd like to keep Bradshaw, and I think he feels a certain loyalty to us for giving him a chance. But given our cap situation, its going to be tough.</p>


The article that Pizz cited supports my view on RB's in the NFL. Thats why I think we have an outside shot at Dwill. Notice I said "outside". Maybe 1 in 10.</p>


But there is a real chance that we will lose Bradshaw and have BJ and the young guys left. I like BJ persoanlly. i think he a really good player. But he would be more effective with a change of pace kind of guy to complement him.</p>

zero shot at dwill

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 10:38 AM
how long until osi starts *****ing about a new contract. i say 3 days.

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 10:40 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</P>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</P>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</P>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</P>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</P>


2. DWill has missed 13</P>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</P>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</P>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</P>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</P>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</P>


</P>


</P>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</P>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</P>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</P>




this sounds like a bet
</P>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</P>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </P>




regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw
</P>


I'd like to keep Bradshaw, and I think he feels a certain loyalty to us for giving him a chance. But given our cap situation, its going to be tough.</P>


The article that Pizz cited supports my view on RB's in the NFL. Thats why I think we have an outside shot at Dwill. Notice I said "outside". Maybe 1 in 10.</P>


But there is a real chance that we will lose Bradshaw and have BJ and the young guys left. I like BJ persoanlly. i think he a really good player. But he would be more effective with a change of pace kind of guy to complement him.</P>




zero shot at dwill
</P>


if we resign Bradshaw, than obviously we would have no interest. If Bradshaw goes to Miami, or some other place, I say we will definately have interest.</P>

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 10:43 AM
just herd on espn bradshaw wants to stay a giant. sooo **** youuuu pizz. [:D]

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 10:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_9Yxr0blo&amp;feature=player_embedded

lol kenny powers.
Is that **** hilarious or what???? hahaha

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 11:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_9Yxr0blo&amp;feature=player_embedded

lol kenny powers.
Is that **** hilarious or what???? hahaha
lmao
"kswiss power cologne....who knew you could bottle the scent of....(wispers) bonner."

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 11:12 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/07/bradshaws-first-option-is-return-to-new-york

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 11:16 AM
just herd on espn bradshaw wants to stay a giant. sooo **** youuuu pizz. [:D]
</P>


Why was that @ me? I don't care. I prefer to keep him.</P>

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 11:25 AM
just herd on espn bradshaw wants to stay a giant. sooo **** youuuu pizz. [:D]
</p>


Why was that @ me? I don't care. I prefer to keep him.</p>Yesterday -AB had said that he prefers to remain a Giant.

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 11:25 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</p>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</p>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</p>




this sounds like a bet
</p>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</p>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </p>




regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw
</p>


I'd like to keep Bradshaw, and I think he feels a certain loyalty to us for giving him a chance. But given our cap situation, its going to be tough.</p>


The article that Pizz cited supports my view on RB's in the NFL. Thats why I think we have an outside shot at Dwill. Notice I said "outside". Maybe 1 in 10.</p>


But there is a real chance that we will lose Bradshaw and have BJ and the young guys left. I like BJ persoanlly. i think he a really good player. But he would be more effective with a change of pace kind of guy to complement him.</p>




zero shot at dwill
</p>


if we resign Bradshaw, than obviously we would have no interest. If Bradshaw goes to Miami, or some other place, I say we will definately have interest.</p>

Z-E-R-O

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 11:39 AM
Zero chance --agreed. Also BJ and AB increase their effectiveness by having the contrast of each other on the team.

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 11:42 AM
I want to buy my buddy Chris' new baby boy a Giants onsie! lmao
or maybe i'll just wait till he's a bit bigger and get him a jersey! haha

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 11:45 AM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</P>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</P>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</P>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</P>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</P>


2. DWill has missed 13</P>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</P>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</P>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</P>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</P>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</P>


</P>


</P>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</P>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</P>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</P>




this sounds like a bet
</P>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</P>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </P>




regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw
</P>


I'd like to keep Bradshaw, and I think he feels a certain loyalty to us for giving him a chance. But given our cap situation, its going to be tough.</P>


The article that Pizz cited supports my view on RB's in the NFL. Thats why I think we have an outside shot at Dwill. Notice I said "outside". Maybe 1 in 10.</P>


But there is a real chance that we will lose Bradshaw and have BJ and the young guys left. I like BJ persoanlly. i think he a really good player. But he would be more effective with a change of pace kind of guy to complement him.</P>




zero shot at dwill
</P>


if we resign Bradshaw, than obviously we would have no interest. If Bradshaw goes to Miami, or some other place, I say we will definately have interest.</P>




Z-E-R-O
</P>


well since you think we will resign Bradshaw, I get your position. But IF we do not resign AB, do you think we will have any interest?</P>

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 11:46 AM
just herd on espn bradshaw wants to stay a giant. sooo **** youuuu pizz. [:D]
</p>


Why was that @ me? I don't care. I prefer to keep him.</p>i dont know, i was breezing through yesterdays posts and saw you say something like he wants to play in south beach.

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 11:49 AM
Dezz-Did you see it Sunday night?

http://i.imgur.com/v4yBe.jpg

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 11:51 AM
Just can't get a good football conversation going on this thread.

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 11:57 AM
Dezz-Did you see it Sunday night?

http://i.imgur.com/v4yBe.jpg
nah i missed it. was it good?

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 12:00 PM
Just can't get a good football conversation going on this thread.AB vs. dwill isn't really a good one. Sorry. Maybe it's just me.

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 12:01 PM
Dezz-Did you see it Sunday night?

http://i.imgur.com/v4yBe.jpg
nah i missed it. was it good?
It was great! Leon(the displaced katrina freeloader) was classic.

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 12:06 PM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</p>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</p>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</p>




this sounds like a bet
</p>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</p>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </p>




regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw
</p>


I'd like to keep Bradshaw, and I think he feels a certain loyalty to us for giving him a chance. But given our cap situation, its going to be tough.</p>


The article that Pizz cited supports my view on RB's in the NFL. Thats why I think we have an outside shot at Dwill. Notice I said "outside". Maybe 1 in 10.</p>


But there is a real chance that we will lose Bradshaw and have BJ and the young guys left. I like BJ persoanlly. i think he a really good player. But he would be more effective with a change of pace kind of guy to complement him.</p>




zero shot at dwill
</p>


if we resign Bradshaw, than obviously we would have no interest. If Bradshaw goes to Miami, or some other place, I say we will definately have interest.</p>




Z-E-R-O
</p>


well since you think we will resign Bradshaw, I get your position. But IF we do not resign AB, do you think we will have any interest?</p>

negatory

because the only reason we don't get AB is cuz of money - DWill will be just as much ifnot more

if we don't get Bradshaw I expect a guy like Hightower, Portis, Pierre Thomas, Jerome Harrison , etc...

a low risk high reward type signing

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 12:07 PM
Just can't get a good football conversation going on this thread.

u havne't tried

lol

byron
07-19-2011, 12:16 PM
What kind of money doyou think AB will be looking for ...at least the same money as BJ ?

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 12:17 PM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</p>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</p>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</p>




this sounds like a bet
</p>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</p>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </p>




regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw
</p>


I'd like to keep Bradshaw, and I think he feels a certain loyalty to us for giving him a chance. But given our cap situation, its going to be tough.</p>


The article that Pizz cited supports my view on RB's in the NFL. Thats why I think we have an outside shot at Dwill. Notice I said "outside". Maybe 1 in 10.</p>


But there is a real chance that we will lose Bradshaw and have BJ and the young guys left. I like BJ persoanlly. i think he a really good player. But he would be more effective with a change of pace kind of guy to complement him.</p>




zero shot at dwill
</p>


if we resign Bradshaw, than obviously we would have no interest. If Bradshaw goes to Miami, or some other place, I say we will definately have interest.</p>




Z-E-R-O
</p>


well since you think we will resign Bradshaw, I get your position. But IF we do not resign AB, do you think we will have any interest?</p>

negatory

because the only reason we don't get AB is cuz of money - DWill will be just as much ifnot more

if we don't get Bradshaw I expect a guy like Hightower, Portis, Pierre Thomas, Jerome Harrison , etc...

a low risk high reward type signing
i agree. id take guys like hightower and thomas in a heartbeat, but jerome and portis, no thanks

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 12:19 PM
I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.</p>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</p>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</p>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</p>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</p>


2. DWill has missed 13</p>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</p>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</p>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</p>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</p>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</p>


</p>


</p>




he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
</p>


Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</p>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</p>




this sounds like a bet
</p>


You have to agree that RB's have become less and less important in the NFL. Teams have plugged in guys when another guy gets hurt and haven't missed a beat. Plus so many teams have two backs that split time. The glory days of great backs are gone. There are still guys line AP and MJD, but most teams now have two effective backs.</p>


Thats why you don't see a lot of backs go early in the draft anymore. </p>




regardless i bet that bradshaw is a giant... i bet that wherever DWill goes he'll be paid equal if not more than bradshaw
</p>


I'd like to keep Bradshaw, and I think he feels a certain loyalty to us for giving him a chance. But given our cap situation, its going to be tough.</p>


The article that Pizz cited supports my view on RB's in the NFL. Thats why I think we have an outside shot at Dwill. Notice I said "outside". Maybe 1 in 10.</p>


But there is a real chance that we will lose Bradshaw and have BJ and the young guys left. I like BJ persoanlly. i think he a really good player. But he would be more effective with a change of pace kind of guy to complement him.</p>




zero shot at dwill
</p>


if we resign Bradshaw, than obviously we would have no interest. If Bradshaw goes to Miami, or some other place, I say we will definately have interest.</p>




Z-E-R-O
</p>


well since you think we will resign Bradshaw, I get your position. But IF we do not resign AB, do you think we will have any interest?</p>

negatory

because the only reason we don't get AB is cuz of money - DWill will be just as much ifnot more

if we don't get Bradshaw I expect a guy like Hightower, Portis, Pierre Thomas, Jerome Harrison , etc...

a low risk high reward type signing
i agree. id take guys like hightower and thomas in a heartbeat, but jerome and portis, no thanks


if the Giants really believe that Ware could contribute at all, Portis would be perfect

Jerome Harrison - may be the steal of the free agent class

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 12:21 PM
What kind of money doyou think AB will be looking for ...at least the same money as BJ ?

no clue, but he won't be getting more than Dwill

:)

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 12:23 PM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2011/fa/rb.html


crazy amount of talent out there

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 12:26 PM
infact the more that I think about Jerome Harrison - the more perfect I think he is.

We'll get him at a deal, hes young, speedy back that can catch, has alot to prove




uhg if Bradshaw is gone your going to see me campaign for him BIG time

byron
07-19-2011, 12:28 PM
What kind of money doyou think AB will be looking for ...at least the same money as BJ ?

no clue, but he won't be getting more than Dwill

:)
lol I think right Matt I wonder if AB could even be an every down type of back..some we need two guys at what point are we spending to much to have a running game ....

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 12:31 PM
infact the more that I think about Jerome Harrison - the more perfect I think he is.

We'll get him at a deal, hes young, speedy back that can catch, <u>has alot to prove</u>




uhg if Bradshaw is gone your going to see me campaign for him BIG time
exactly. im not crazy about it. hes the dj ware of the eagles.

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 12:35 PM
infact the more that I think about Jerome Harrison - the more perfect I think he is.

We'll get him at a deal, hes young, speedy back that can catch, <u>has alot to prove</u>




uhg if Bradshaw is gone your going to see me campaign for him BIG time
exactly. im not crazy about it. hes the dj ware of the eagles.


what?

whats the comparison?

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 12:43 PM
infact the more that I think about Jerome Harrison - the more perfect I think he is.

We'll get him at a deal, hes young, speedy back that can catch, <u>has alot to prove</u>




uhg if Bradshaw is gone your going to see me campaign for him BIG time
exactly. im not crazy about it. hes the dj ware of the eagles.


what?

whats the comparison?
both back ups and both play in garbage time.

he put up 800 yards with the browns one year, still, unimpressed
were better off keeping bradshaw.

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 12:45 PM
infact the more that I think about Jerome Harrison - the more perfect I think he is.

We'll get him at a deal, hes young, speedy back that can catch, has alot to prove




uhg if Bradshaw is gone your going to see me campaign for him BIG time
</P>


Why was he scrapped so fast in cleveland?!? it's like they drafted that kidhardesty or w/e the **** his name was last year who was stated to be his replacement, theytraded for hillis, and he was a complete afterthought after showing so much promise as a replacement in 09!
He deserves another go fo sho</P>

shocknaweny
07-19-2011, 12:53 PM
how long until osi starts *****ing about a new contract. i say 3 days.
</P>


</P>


as soon as the CBA is signed....I dunno Friday probably....what a glorious weekend it should be though if things go as expected !!!</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 01:02 PM
infact the more that I think about Jerome Harrison - the more perfect I think he is.

We'll get him at a deal, hes young, speedy back that can catch, has alot to prove




uhg if Bradshaw is gone your going to see me campaign for him BIG time
</p>


Why was he scrapped so fast in cleveland?!? it's like they drafted that kidhardesty or w/e the **** his name was last year who was stated to be his replacement, theytraded for hillis, and he was a complete afterthought after showing so much promise as a replacement in 09!
He deserves another go fo sho</p>

Holmgren came in and Harrison wasn't one of his guys

shocknaweny
07-19-2011, 01:06 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</P>


</P>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</P>

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 01:23 PM
bahahahahahahaha rupert murdoch just got ajed(pied in the face)

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 01:24 PM
New Rule: Replay officials will have authority to stop the game after each score before an extra point is attempted if it was a questionable score. Coaches will no longer be able to challenge a score.

NFL referee officials have reported for their physicals --bodywt and fat % were among their tests.

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 01:28 PM
New Rule: Replay officials will have authority to stop the game after each score before an extra point is attempted if it was a questionable score. Coaches will no longer be able to challenge a score.

NFL referee officials have reported for their physicals --bodywt and fat % were among their tests.


awesome...

thats the way it should be

is there anything changing about having guys on the field oppose to having a guy in the booth like hockey?

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 01:30 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 01:33 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 01:35 PM
New Rule: Replay officials will have authority to stop the game after each score before an extra point is attempted if it was a questionable score. Coaches will no longer be able to challenge a score.

NFL referee officials have reported for their physicals --bodywt and fat % were among their tests.


awesome...

thats the way it should be

is there anything changing about having guys on the field oppose to having a guy in the booth like hockey?
Yes--now coaches will not waste their challenges on scores. There was no mention of the guy in the booth.
One thing, they did say confused me. They said if there was a ? on a score, the official would wait to watch a television network replay of the play. I thought each stadium had their own game tape?

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 01:38 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</P>


</P>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</P>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</P>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</P>

shocknaweny
07-19-2011, 01:40 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</P>


</P>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</P>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</P>


</P>


Moreno and anything less than a 2nd rounder = no thanks from my end.</P>

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 01:40 PM
New Rule: Replay officials will have authority to stop the game after each score before an extra point is attempted if it was a questionable score. Coaches will no longer be able to challenge a score.

NFL referee officials have reported for their physicals --bodywt and fat % were among their tests.


awesome...

thats the way it should be

is there anything changing about having guys on the field oppose to having a guy in the booth like hockey?
Yes--now coaches will not waste their challenges on scores. There was no mention of the guy in the booth.
One thing, they did say confused me. They said if there was a ? on a score, the official would wait to watch a television network replay of the play. I thought each stadium had their own game tape?
</P>


no. the stadium has access to everything being broadcast from the cameras on any given day, for that exact reason.</P>

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 01:41 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


no i said i think the giants would want a 1st rounder over moreno

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 01:42 PM
Moreno and anything less than a 2nd rounder = no thanks from my end.</P>


</P>


totally not feasible. youve seen trades around the league....you trade a player, you get a pick, or a player. this isnt baseball lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 01:43 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>

if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET

bigblue4417
07-19-2011, 01:57 PM
Why do you like him so much Matt?

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 01:58 PM
Why do you like him so much Matt?



who? Harrison or Moreno?

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 02:02 PM
if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
</P>


oh I agree. I was kind of hoping that we drafted him, if you guys remember. Didn't really know where he'd fall. typically RBs dont get drafted too high.</P>

bigblue4417
07-19-2011, 02:03 PM
feasible.
I love this word.

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 02:06 PM
New Rule: Replay officials will have authority to stop the game after each score before an extra point is attempted if it was a questionable score. Coaches will no longer be able to challenge a score.

NFL referee officials have reported for their physicals --bodywt and fat % were among their tests.


awesome...

thats the way it should be

is there anything changing about having guys on the field oppose to having a guy in the booth like hockey?
Yes--now coaches will not waste their challenges on scores. There was no mention of the guy in the booth.
One thing, they did say confused me. They said if there was a ? on a score, the official would wait to watch a television network replay of the play. I thought each stadium had their own game tape?
</p>


no. the stadium has access to everything being broadcast from the cameras on any given day, for that exact reason.</p>? How is that different from the stadium being able to play back the film? I'm thinking about that disclaimer that is always displayed on nfl network, regarding the program being copyrighted for blah, blah, blah. This is an nfl game, with nfl officials right?

bigblue4417
07-19-2011, 02:07 PM
Why do you like him so much Matt?



who? Harrison or Moreno?

Moreno. I love Harrison. I never entertained the thought of that happening. Would be almost scary to see what he could do with a real QB and passing game.

I guess you could wonder what Moreno could do with 20-25 carries a game as well?

bigblue4417
07-19-2011, 02:09 PM
Just can't get a good football conversation going on this thread.
It's because your team sucks [;)]

patsrule666
07-19-2011, 02:14 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


*</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>

if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like Snelling or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).

byron
07-19-2011, 02:14 PM
New Rule: Replay officials will have authority to stop the game after each score before an extra point is attempted if it was a questionable score. Coaches will no longer be able to challenge a score.

NFL referee officials have reported for their physicals --bodywt and fat % were among their tests.


awesome...

thats the way it should be

is there anything changing about having guys on the field oppose to having a guy in the booth like hockey?
Yes--now coaches will not waste their challenges on scores. There was no mention of the guy in the booth.
One thing, they did say confused me. They said if there was a ? on a score, the official would wait to watch a television network replay of the play. I thought each stadium had their own game tape?
</P>


no. the stadium has access to everything being broadcast from the cameras on any given day, for that exact reason.</P>


? How is that different from the stadium being able to play back the film? I'm thinking about that disclaimer that is always displayed on nfl network, regarding the program being copyrighted for blah, blah, blah. This is an nfl game, with nfl officials right?
they havesome kind ofdeal..found this</P>
<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none">In the final two minutes of each half and in overtime, only the NFL replay assistant in the television booth or press box can call for a video review. There is no limit to the number of replay reviews the replay assistant can request

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_booth_review_in_football#ixzz1SZmXxeOA</DIV>
<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none"></DIV>
<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none">i think the stadium has to pay for the replays they put up on the big screens ...but I can find anything on that</DIV>
<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
</DIV></DIV>

ny06
07-19-2011, 02:16 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</P>


</P>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</P>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</P>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</P>




if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like <FONT color=#0000ff>Snelling</FONT> or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).</P>


Jason Snelling is a good player.</P>

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 02:20 PM
New Rule: Replay officials will have authority to stop the game after each score before an extra point is attempted if it was a questionable score. Coaches will no longer be able to challenge a score.

NFL referee officials have reported for their physicals --bodywt and fat % were among their tests.


awesome...

thats the way it should be

is there anything changing about having guys on the field oppose to having a guy in the booth like hockey?
Yes--now coaches will not waste their challenges on scores. There was no mention of the guy in the booth.
One thing, they did say confused me. They said if there was a ? on a score, the official would wait to watch a television network replay of the play. I thought each stadium had their own game tape?
</P>


no. the stadium has access to everything being broadcast from the cameras on any given day, for that exact reason.</P>


? How is that different from the stadium being able to play back the film? I'm thinking about that disclaimer that is always displayed on nfl network, regarding the program being copyrighted for blah, blah, blah. This is an nfl game, with nfl officials right?
</P>


they do play back the film. I mean im sure they do have their own cameras, but they have the same angles we see on tv too.</P>

bigblue4417
07-19-2011, 02:21 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>




if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like <font color="#0000ff">Snelling</font> or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).</p>


Jason Snelling is a good player.</p>
He straight murdered **** when Turner was hurt

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 02:24 PM
Why do you like him so much Matt?



who? Harrison or Moreno?

Moreno. I love Harrison. I never entertained the thought of that happening. Would be almost scary to see what he could do with a real QB and passing game.

I guess you could wonder what Moreno could do with 20-25 carries a game as well?


lol so if u say all of that why are u asking me why i like him

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 02:25 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>

if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like Snelling or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).

Fox doesn't like Moreno and wants to get rid of him

patsrule666
07-19-2011, 02:26 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


*</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>




if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like <font color="#0000ff">Snelling</font> or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).</p>


Jason Snelling is a good player.</p>
He straight murdered **** when Turner was hurt
Yeah, and he ran the ball pretty well also...lol.
I can see that happenin, he is a "Fox type" back....Someone that can get into the secondary quickly...........

ny06
07-19-2011, 02:29 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</P>


</P>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</P>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</P>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</P>




if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like <FONT color=#0000ff>Snelling</FONT> or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).</P>


Jason Snelling is a good player.</P>



He straight murdered **** when Turner was hurt
</P>


Let's not forget the 2 touchdowns he ran on us in 09. </P>


Guy can flat out play. Good speed, and does not go down easily. </P>


</P>

patsrule666
07-19-2011, 02:30 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


*</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>

if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like Snelling or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).

Fox doesn't like Moreno and wants to get rid of him
When did he say all this???
I heard that he is planning on using him as a 3rd down back this year and then he will go from there...

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 02:31 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

bigblue4417
07-19-2011, 02:31 PM
Why do you like him so much Matt?



who? Harrison or Moreno?

Moreno. I love Harrison. I never entertained the thought of that happening. Would be almost scary to see what he could do with a real QB and passing game.

I guess you could wonder what Moreno could do with 20-25 carries a game as well?


lol so if u say all of that why are u asking me why i like him

Honestly not sure lol. But you were all on his **** last year to. I just don't see what is so intriguing to you about him. I just said what could he do, not that he would do great. He could be a product of the system there. I like your Harrison idea much better. Not a huge fan of Moreno but anyone in Giants blue will be rep'd by truly yours.

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 02:32 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>

if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like Snelling or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).

Fox doesn't like Moreno and wants to get rid of him
When did he say all this???
I heard that he is planning on using him as a 3rd down back this year and then he will go from there...and if fox doesnt like him good chance neither will tc.

bigblue4417
07-19-2011, 02:34 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 02:35 PM
New Rule: Replay officials will have authority to stop the game after each score before an extra point is attempted if it was a questionable score. Coaches will no longer be able to challenge a score.

NFL referee officials have reported for their physicals --bodywt and fat % were among their tests.


awesome...

thats the way it should be

is there anything changing about having guys on the field oppose to having a guy in the booth like hockey?
Yes--now coaches will not waste their challenges on scores. There was no mention of the guy in the booth.
One thing, they did say confused me. They said if there was a ? on a score, the official would wait to watch a television network replay of the play. I thought each stadium had their own game tape?
</p>


no. the stadium has access to everything being broadcast from the cameras on any given day, for that exact reason.</p>


? How is that different from the stadium being able to play back the film? I'm thinking about that disclaimer that is always displayed on nfl network, regarding the program being copyrighted for blah, blah, blah. This is an nfl game, with nfl officials right?
they havesome kind ofdeal..found this</p>
<div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none">In the final two minutes of each half and in overtime, only the NFL replay assistant in the television booth or press box can call for a video review. There is no limit to the number of replay reviews the replay assistant can request

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_booth_review_in_football#ixzz1SZmXxeOA</div>
<div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none"></div>
<div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none">i think the stadium has to pay for the replays they put up on the big screens ...but I can find anything on that</div>
<div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
<div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
</div></div>Ah, nice, thanks B.

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 02:37 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
mine does my neck/ upper back hair. lmao

nah my friend called to hang out after work and he goes "oh you getting out at 4, hmmm alright ill get my brows done before"

sounded really homosexual to me lol.

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 02:41 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
Bushy Eyebrows are old man scary. I trim the eyebrows with the nose hair, stache and neck hair.

bigblue4417
07-19-2011, 02:42 PM
Probably someone like <font color="#0000ff">Snelling</font> or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).


Jason Snelling is a good player.</p>
He straight murdered **** when Turner was hurt
Yeah, and he ran the ball pretty well also...lol.
I can see that happenin, he is a "Fox type" back....Someone that can get into the secondary quickly...........
Yeah exactly, that's what I said. lol

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 02:44 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
mine does my neck/ upper back hair. lmao

nah my friend called to hang out after work and he goes "oh you getting out at 4, hmmm alright ill get my brows done before"

sounded really homosexual to me lol.
They make this buzzer with a long arm on it--you can do your own back hair. The wife used to do my back hair years ago--they get tired of that ****.

Morehead State
07-19-2011, 02:59 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
mine does my neck/ upper back hair. lmao

nah my friend called to hang out after work and he goes "oh you getting out at 4, hmmm alright ill get my brows done before"

sounded really homosexual to me lol.
They make this buzzer with a long arm on it--you can do your own back hair. The wife used to do my back hair years ago--they get tired of that ****.
</P>


<FONT size=4>Thats it!</FONT></P>


<FONT size=4>5 day boycott of thee threadby Morehead.</FONT></P>

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 03:04 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
mine does my neck/ upper back hair. lmao

nah my friend called to hang out after work and he goes "oh you getting out at 4, hmmm alright ill get my brows done before"

sounded really homosexual to me lol.
They make this buzzer with a long arm on it--you can do your own back hair. The wife used to do my back hair years ago--they get tired of that ****.
</p>


<font size="4">Thats it!</font></p>


<font size="4">5 day boycott of thee threadby Morehead.</font></p>Hahahaha--Dezz--see what you started?

lttaylor56
07-19-2011, 03:05 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
mine does my neck/ upper back hair. lmao

nah my friend called to hang out after work and he goes "oh you getting out at 4, hmmm alright ill get my brows done before"

sounded really homosexual to me lol.
They make this buzzer with a long arm on it--you can do your own back hair. The wife used to do my back hair years ago--they get tired of that ****.
</p>


<font size="4">Thats it!</font></p>


<font size="4">5 day boycott of thee threadby Morehead.</font></p>Thank you for that....I'm still laughing.

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 03:05 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>

if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like Snelling or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).

Fox doesn't like Moreno and wants to get rid of him
When did he say all this???
I heard that he is planning on using him as a 3rd down back this year and then he will go from there...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/14/broncos-reportedly-knew-moreno-was-a-mistake-before-long/

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 03:06 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed


ehhh

as an irish german - sometimes its necessary. i don't do it thoug. I let my **** grow like wildfire

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 03:07 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>

if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like Snelling or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).

Fox doesn't like Moreno and wants to get rid of him
When did he say all this???
I heard that he is planning on using him as a 3rd down back this year and then he will go from there...and if fox doesnt like him good chance neither will tc.


based on what

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 03:08 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
mine does my neck/ upper back hair. lmao

nah my friend called to hang out after work and he goes "oh you getting out at 4, hmmm alright ill get my brows done before"

sounded really homosexual to me lol.


yeaaaaa

i could see your dilemma

that def sounded limp wristed

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 03:09 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
mine does my neck/ upper back hair. lmao

nah my friend called to hang out after work and he goes "oh you getting out at 4, hmmm alright ill get my brows done before"

sounded really homosexual to me lol.
They make this buzzer with a long arm on it--you can do your own back hair. The wife used to do my back hair years ago--they get tired of that ****.
</p>


<font size="4">Thats it!</font></p>


<font size="4">5 day boycott of thee threadby Morehead.</font></p>

LOLOLOL

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 03:34 PM
gay or straight - guys that get eyebrows waxed

Straight for sure. My wife does mine. Furry eyebrows are disgusting.
Bushy Eyebrows are old man scary. I trim the eyebrows with the nose hair, stache and neck hair.
</P>


ugh, my neck gets a bit ridiculous....****ing guineas! lol....</P>

patsrule666
07-19-2011, 03:35 PM
crazy GM talk - but if we had to trade Osi - what if we sent him to the Broncos and got Moreno and a pick - would u do it?
</p>


*</p>


Moreno and a 2nd and Yes I would !!!</p>


yea i would too. but i think the giants are going to want a 1st rounder.


moreno and a first rounder? No way.

We wouldn't even get Moreno and a 2nd rounder


</p>


agreed. except to be honest, why do we keep drafting RBs in the late rounds if we never intend on using them?
I dont know why we would trade for a RB, although as a UGA product you all know I like Knowshon lol</p>

if Moreno is cheap and we lose Ahmad

that would be SWEEEEET
Sup Swags?? Both Moreno and Bradshaw are worth more to the teams they are already on. Plenty of reasonably priced backs to be had out there. Unless AB wants crazy money, you guys will prob. resign him. KM is going to be the third down back in Foxes Z Blocking schemes. They are looking to add a power guy to compliment what they have now. Probably someone like Snelling or Bush and a slight chance at D-Will. Moreno is going nowhere(for now).

Fox doesn't like Moreno and wants to get rid of him
When did he say all this???
I heard that he is planning on using him as a 3rd down back this year and then he will go from there...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/14/broncos-reportedly-knew-moreno-was-a-mistake-before-long/

I don't have the luxory of the clicky click with this computor but i am going to guess that this is taken from the"Woody Paige Mailbag' weekly column where he reported that Josh Mcdaniels supposedly knew early on that Knowshon was a bust and a wimp and all that typical Woody ranting....

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 03:38 PM
<FONT size=4>Thats it!</FONT></P>


<FONT size=4>5 day boycott of thee threadby Morehead.</FONT></P>


</P>


looks like Christmas came early this year, boys!!!!!!</P>

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 03:39 PM
afternoon folk..

PATS!

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 03:45 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 03:48 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
</P>


YOu mean Mankins right?
I didnt hear anything about manning and brees, jsut the other 2 on tv earlier.</P>

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 03:54 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
kill them

byron
07-19-2011, 03:54 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 03:59 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.

JPizzack
07-19-2011, 04:02 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....</P>


All i heard about so far was that Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins wanted either unrestricted free agency, or monetary compensation. (VJ said $10 mill apparently)</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 04:02 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....

its booty

byron
07-19-2011, 04:08 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....</P>


All i heard about so far was that Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins wanted either unrestricted free agency, or monetary compensation. (VJ said $10 mill apparently)</P>


here's what I have been reading ...</P>


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/</P>


looks like the lawyer ispushing this stuff idk you tell me... may be this stuff is just bull..looks like lawyer bull the more i read...these guys need to come out</P>

patsrule666
07-19-2011, 04:10 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.^ THIS ^
Don't know what the situation is with the other guys but i can really see where Manchild is coming from. He should have been unrestricted last year. Seeing how they changed the ruling before last year and knowing the Pats will slap him again this year. I would be PO'd also..

byron
07-19-2011, 04:15 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</P>


oh I'm with on that Bandy this **** is frustrating........kind of like pork barrel politics slip something in to get something done</P>

byron
07-19-2011, 04:37 PM
Where did everybody go!! damn you meyer!!!

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 04:39 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</P>


** slip something in to get something done</P>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago.
did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 04:40 PM
Where did everybody go!! damn you meyer!!!

lol what did i do

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 04:41 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</p>


slip something in to get something done</p>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago.
did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol

$3.75, that sounds about right

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 04:43 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</p>


** slip something in to get something done</p>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago.
did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol

$3.75, that sounds about right
listen Mod M.. jealousy is an ugly emotion.

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 04:46 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</p>


slip something in to get something done</p>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago.
did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol

$3.75, that sounds about right
listen Mod M.. jealousy is an ugly emotion.

lol if i wanted to watch pee-wee football i'd drive down to the Rec center and watch the 10 year old plays

byron
07-19-2011, 04:51 PM
Where did everybody go!! damn you meyer!!!

lol what did i do
nothing ...you started fire and left...it went out

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 04:53 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</p>


** slip something in to get something done</p>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago.
did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol

$3.75, that sounds about right
listen Mod M.. jealousy is an ugly emotion.

lol if i wanted to watch pee-wee football i'd drive down to the Rec center and watch the 10 year old plays
lol.. kids playing football is a lot of fun to watch.. hated coaching ref'ing though..

MattMeyerBud
07-19-2011, 04:53 PM
Where did everybody go!! damn you meyer!!!

lol what did i do
nothing ...you started fire and left...it went out

i always start fires...

just mostly in peoples pants

byron
07-19-2011, 04:54 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</P>


slip something in to get something done</P>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago. did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol ha ha.......good deal on the tixs they in the parking lot..

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 04:57 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</P>


** slip something in to get something done</P>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago. did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol ha ha.......good deal on the tixs they in the parking lot..endzones.. i'd imagine you couldnt get a parking pass for that at a NFL Stadium.

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 04:58 PM
Where did everybody go!!* damn you meyer!!!

lol what did i do
nothing ...you started fire and left...it went out

i always start fires...

just mostly in peoples pants


herpes or the clap

byron
07-19-2011, 05:03 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</P>


slip something in to get something done</P>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago. did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol ha ha.......good deal on the tixs they in the parking lot..endzones.. i'd imagine you couldnt get a parking pass for that at a NFL Stadium. those will be good as long as the snow don't melt....jk.....I imagine your right Bandy at least 30/40 dolars a game I would think...should be a great time for you and your boys

bandwgn86
07-19-2011, 05:08 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</P>


** slip something in to get something done</P>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago. did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol ha ha.......good deal on the tixs they in the parking lot..endzones.. i'd imagine you couldnt get a parking pass for that at a NFL Stadium. those will be good as long as the snow don't melt....jk.....I imagine your right Bandy at least 30/40 dolars a game I would think...should be a great time for you and your boysits a good time for sure.. we went last week.. shoulda bought tickets to a Jays game though.. apparently they beat up on some overrated team 16-7.

dezzzR
07-19-2011, 06:16 PM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
kill themhahahahahaha

byron
07-19-2011, 08:07 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I'm sick and tired of hearing about Osi andall the drama that goes with him......he got a 31 mil dollar dealand he's ****ing whinning....I don't care what happenswithhim anymore....He could have handled this **** way different imo....</P>


I don't know how you can get rid ofthis sort of thing from players...there's no real pay scale ..its performance based which is all fine and good if its fair....The problemI see is you got owners over paying for players..In many cases bringing in FA's paying thembig money and getting almost nothing out them...the rest of players have to be thinking wtf...In my view its a screwed up system....Don't ask mewhat I'd do cause I don't know what would be fair and you still would have somebody whinning....I guess as fan I wish this sort of garbage justwasn't reported....but whatever they have to live with the mess they make .....</P>


I know I'm rambling... I'll be glad when the deal gets done and the media focus changes away from stuff such thisand we get some good football stuff to talk about....</P>


sorry for the rant</P>


</P>

zimonami
07-19-2011, 09:10 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I'm sick and tired of hearing about Osi andall the drama that goes with him......he got a 31 mil dollar dealand he's ****ing whinning....I don't care what happenswithhim anymore....He could have handled this **** way different imo....</P>


I don't know how you can get rid ofthis sort of thing from players...there's no real pay scale ..its performance based which is all fine and good if its fair....The problemI see is you got owners over paying for players..In many cases bringing in FA's paying thembig money and getting almost nothing out them...the rest of players have to be thinking wtf...In my view its a screwed up system....Don't ask mewhat I'd do cause I don't know what would be fair and you still would have somebody whinning....I guess as fan I wish this sort of garbage justwasn't reported....but whatever they have to live with the mess they make .....</P>


I know I'm rambling... I'll be glad when the deal gets done and the media focus changes away from stuff such thisand we get some good football stuff to talk about....</P>


sorry for the rant</P>


</P>


</P>


No apologies, byron... we're all frustrated... and, I'm also a bit tired of Osi's whining. He's been thinking his spit don't stink for too long. Shut up and play, Osi.</P>

zimonami
07-19-2011, 09:10 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I'm sick and tired of hearing about Osi andall the drama that goes with him......he got a 31 mil dollar dealand he's ****ing whinning....I don't care what happenswithhim anymore....He could have handled this **** way different imo....</P>


I don't know how you can get rid ofthis sort of thing from players...there's no real pay scale ..its performance based which is all fine and good if its fair....The problemI see is you got owners over paying for players..In many cases bringing in FA's paying thembig money and getting almost nothing out them...the rest of players have to be thinking wtf...In my view its a screwed up system....Don't ask mewhat I'd do cause I don't know what would be fair and you still would have somebody whinning....I guess as fan I wish this sort of garbage justwasn't reported....but whatever they have to live with the mess they make .....</P>


I know I'm rambling... I'll be glad when the deal gets done and the media focus changes away from stuff such thisand we get some good football stuff to talk about....</P>


sorry for the rant</P>


</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
07-20-2011, 08:47 AM
Where did everybody go!! damn you meyer!!!

lol what did i do
nothing ...you started fire and left...it went out

i always start fires...

just mostly in peoples pants


herpes or the clap

typically both, depends if i'm inflamed or not

MattMeyerBud
07-20-2011, 08:48 AM
I don't know about anyone else but I'm sick and tired of hearing about Osi andall the drama that goes with him......he got a 31 mil dollar dealand he's ****ing whinning....I don't care what happenswithhim anymore....He could have handled this **** way different imo....</p>


I don't know how you can get rid ofthis sort of thing from players...there's no real pay scale ..its performance based which is all fine and good if its fair....The problemI see is you got owners over paying for players..In many cases bringing in FA's paying thembig money and getting almost nothing out them...the rest of players have to be thinking wtf...In my view its a screwed up system....Don't ask mewhat I'd do cause I don't know what would be fair and you still would have somebody whinning....I guess as fan I wish this sort of garbage justwasn't reported....but whatever they have to live with the mess they make .....</p>


I know I'm rambling... I'll be glad when the deal gets done and the media focus changes away from stuff such thisand we get some good football stuff to talk about....</p>


sorry for the rant</p>


</p>


</p>


No apologies, byron... we're all frustrated... and, I'm also a bit tired of Osi's whining. He's been thinking his spit don't stink for too long. Shut up and play, Osi.</p>

yea Byron - STOP APOLOGIZING

bandwgn86
07-20-2011, 08:53 AM
As bad as i thought Carson Palmer was last year his numbers at the end of the day weren't that bad
3900 yards
26tds
20 ints
Maybe he snot as done as I thought

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 08:57 AM
Where did everybody go!! damn you meyer!!!

lol what did i do
nothing ...you started fire and left...it went out

i always start fires...

just mostly in peoples pants


herpes or the clap

typically both, depends if i'm inflamed or not
The gift that keeps giving.

bandwgn86
07-20-2011, 08:58 AM
If you had to pick between Marshal Faulk or LdT who would you pick as your RB.
I think I go with MF

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 08:58 AM
I don't know about anyone else but I'm sick and tired of hearing about Osi andall the drama that goes with him......he got a 31 mil dollar dealand he's ****ing whinning....I don't care what happenswithhim anymore....He could have handled this **** way different imo....</p>


I don't know how you can get rid ofthis sort of thing from players...there's no real pay scale ..its performance based which is all fine and good if its fair....The problemI see is you got owners over paying for players..In many cases bringing in FA's paying thembig money and getting almost nothing out them...the rest of players have to be thinking wtf...In my view its a screwed up system....Don't ask mewhat I'd do cause I don't know what would be fair and you still would have somebody whinning....I guess as fan I wish this sort of garbage justwasn't reported....but whatever they have to live with the mess they make .....</p>


I know I'm rambling... I'll be glad when the deal gets done and the media focus changes away from stuff such thisand we get some good football stuff to talk about....</p>


sorry for the rant</p>


</p>


</p>


No apologies, byron... we're all frustrated... and, I'm also a bit tired of Osi's whining. He's been thinking his spit don't stink for too long. Shut up and play, Osi.</p>

yea Byron - STOP APOLOGIZING


B- Don't be sorry be careful.

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 09:00 AM
If you had to pick between Marshal Faulk or LdT who would you pick as your RB.
I think I go with M***ree with ya--Palmers #;s are not soooo bad. If I were forced to choose an old rb-that I thought could give me some production on a limited basis-prob go with Faulk.

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 09:02 AM
so apparently Manning, Breez, Logans, and Vjack are holding this lockout up

they want seperate settlements

I can maybe understand VJack and Logans TRYING to do that - but Peyton and Breez? Weren't they the ones last week saying enough is enough?
I just read that also...they want franchise tag exemption for the rest of their careers..Idk man, it looks like it is holding things up ....seriously, have them killed.. i want football.</p>


slip something in to get something done</p>not a bad idea.. i guess it should be looked as a positive we are much closer to football than we were months ago. did i mention i bought season tickets to the Hamilton Tigercats (CFL) cost me $375 for 3 seats lol ha ha.......good deal on the tixs they in the parking lot..endzones.. i'd imagine you couldnt get a parking pass for that at a NFL Stadium.That is freaking awesome Bandy!!! Congratulations. Enjoy the season. Parking passes for NYG were $250 for 10 games in general admission parking this year.

MattMeyerBud
07-20-2011, 09:10 AM
As bad as i thought Carson Palmer was last year his numbers at the end of the day weren't that bad
3900 yards
26tds
20 ints
Maybe he snot as done as I thought

wow they weren't

but he was bruttttttalll

he had alot of brutal balls... he also had TO and Ocho to throw to

MattMeyerBud
07-20-2011, 09:12 AM
If you had to pick between Marshal Faulk or LdT who would you pick as your RB.
I think I go with MF

i dunno man

thats a hard one but i think i have to go with LdT. In his prime we were talking about him being the greatest of all time

Faulk's receiving was great, but I think it got inflated because of MArtz's offense

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 09:17 AM
If you had to pick between Marshal Faulk or LdT who would you pick as your RB.
I think I go with MF

i dunno man

thats a hard one but i think i have to go with LdT. In his prime we were talking about him being the greatest of all time

Faulk's receiving was great, but I think it got inflated because of MArtz's offense
Yeah-Faulk had good hands. What do you think about Osi-having the power to shut down the entire cba negotiation, but he say's he won't. C'mon!

MattMeyerBud
07-20-2011, 09:20 AM
If you had to pick between Marshal Faulk or LdT who would you pick as your RB.
I think I go with MF

i dunno man

thats a hard one but i think i have to go with LdT. In his prime we were talking about him being the greatest of all time

Faulk's receiving was great, but I think it got inflated because of MArtz's offense
Yeah-Faulk had good hands. What do you think about Osi-having the power to shut down the entire cba negotiation, but he say's he won't. C'mon!


he better lol

if one man held up the lockout they would be the most hated man in football

how bout he earns the contract this year

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 09:22 AM
If you had to pick between Marshal Faulk or LdT who would you pick as your RB.
I think I go with MF

i dunno man

thats a hard one but i think i have to go with LdT. In his prime we were talking about him being the greatest of all time

Faulk's receiving was great, but I think it got inflated because of MArtz's offense
Yeah-Faulk had good hands. What do you think about Osi-having the power to shut down the entire cba negotiation, but he say's he won't. C'mon!


he better lol

if one man held up the lockout they would be the most hated man in football

how bout he earns the contract this year
Now that's a novel concept, EARN it. Stop whining and crying, step up and lead this defense with Tuck, Rolle and JP and let's hurt some people.

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 09:28 AM
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MattMeyerBud
07-20-2011, 09:30 AM
the thing about the Osi thing that really bothers me is that his agreement that he agreed with Reese on was that if he played at a high level in 08 and 09, he would be paid

HE missed all of 08 and had a HORRID 09.

Great year in 2010, but i mean Reese wanted him to have two sick years to earn the contract.

He should at least play this year at a high level and if he doesn't then its time fo rhim to go. If he does, get him a new contract, but none of this top 5 money bs

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 09:43 AM
the thing about the Osi thing that really bothers me is that his agreement that he agreed with Reese on was that if he played at a high level in 08 and 09, he would be paid

HE missed all of 08 and had a HORRID 09.

Great year in 2010, but i mean Reese wanted him to have two sick years to earn the contract.

He should at least play this year at a high level and if he doesn't then its time fo rhim to go. If he does, get him a new contract, but none of this top 5 money bs
I agree with that. However-from an athlete's perspective it sucks. Let's say he plays great thru 2011 and earns the contract he wants next year. If I'm the NYG I'm not structuring anything for too long a period of time because Osi's getting older. Looked at from an athlete's standpoint, and I can't blame them, they want the $ now. Their knee could get blown out at any moment and their career over.

byron
07-20-2011, 09:52 AM
the thing about the Osi thing that really bothers me is that his agreement that he agreed with Reese on was that if he played at a high level in 08 and 09, he would be paid

HE missed all of 08 and had a HORRID 09.

Great year in 2010, but i mean Reese wanted him to have two sick years to earn the contract.

He should at least play this year at a high level and if he doesn't then its time fo rhim to go.<FONT color=#0000ff> If he does, get him a new contract</FONT>, but none of this top 5 money bs
which will be taken back a mil at time for whinning...

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 09:57 AM
the thing about the Osi thing that really bothers me is that his agreement that he agreed with Reese on was that if he played at a high level in 08 and 09, he would be paid

HE missed all of 08 and had a HORRID 09.

Great year in 2010, but i mean Reese wanted him to have two sick years to earn the contract.

He should at least play this year at a high level and if he doesn't then its time fo rhim to go.<font color="#0000ff"> If he does, get him a new contract</font>, but none of this top 5 money bs
which will be taken back a mil at time for whinning...Yes indeed, the young boy was a whina!!

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAvN9REA1VBs6ND4E5G8uIpINoynz0F q_K3uNUAzGj4CrxgFsJQA

dezzzR
07-20-2011, 10:03 AM
you guys see that article of the "opposing player" give eli props? says gilbrides wr routes are very complicated, especially for young guys. says we run a lot of option routes

Kase-1
07-20-2011, 10:08 AM
you guys see that article of the "opposing player" give eli props? says gilbrides wr routes are very complicated, especially for young guys. says we run a lot of option routes

We def do run a ton of option routes, but Killdrive is still a toolbag.... Good thing we have a few outstanding route runners with good heads on their shoulders to really take these option routes to the next level

dezzzR
07-20-2011, 10:08 AM
the thing about the Osi thing that really bothers me is that his agreement that he agreed with Reese on was that if he played at a high level in 08 and 09, he would be paid

HE missed all of 08 and had a HORRID 09.

Great year in 2010, but i mean Reese wanted him to have two sick years to earn the contract.

He should at least play this year at a high level and if he doesn't then its time fo rhim to go. If he does, get him a new contract, but none of this top 5 money bs
**** him man. i want him gone. enough is enough.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Giants-DE-Umenyiora-planning-holdout-?urn=nfl-370881

lttaylor56
07-20-2011, 10:13 AM
Yep--our offense is complicated...that's why you see the ball land on the turf 3 yards from the receiver's a couple of times. Hopefully-Eli is getting some chemistry with his wr's .

Kase-1
07-20-2011, 10:15 AM
the thing about the Osi thing that really bothers me is that his agreement that he agreed with Reese on was that if he played at a high level in 08 and 09, he would be paid

HE missed all of 08 and had a HORRID 09.

Great year in 2010, but i mean Reese wanted him to have two sick years to earn the contract.

He should at least play this year at a high level and if he doesn't then its time fo rhim to go. If he does, get him a new contract, but none of this top 5 money bs
**** him man. i want him gone. enough is enough.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Giants-DE-Umenyiora-planning-holdout-?urn=nfl-370881
Damn man, Osi is becoming quite the lil beeyotch. He KILLED it in 10, did nothing spectacular in 09, and didnt even play in 08.

I think J-Reese needs to straight up Dee-Bo Osi and call him out on his slackin in 08 and 09, cause technically by his demands he doesnt deserve a new contract

Kase-1
07-20-2011, 10:22 AM
Yo Blondie and MMB, whats good with this years GMB FF???? I havent been on here like I used to (due to new job) and havent heard anything about it yet