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MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 09:51 AM
yaaay we resigned david carr. and giants are reportedly asking for a 1st round pick for osi.
signing Carr definitely made Harooni's day lol

as for Osi.. if he's got to be traded why not trade him for someone that can contribute this year.. getting a pick next year is fine if we're rebuilding but were a contender this year we need all hands on deck as they say. especially with teams not having a lot of time to prepare..

Na a first rounder is just as good. I'd actually prefer it

then we can draft a young stud and with the way the rookie cap is now we'll save money and get a healthier body

just nothing less than a 1st. A player or first round pick...

don't give up the value, i'd rather him rot on the bench
Cleveland or some other bottom feeder team wont give us a first.. it would probably be a contender looking to do what i was saying "make a run" than we end up with basically a second rounder.. anyways great move by JR setting the asking price too high, now lets get him signed and make our run..

i dunno, i think we could. He had such a sick year last year

ibleedblue85
08-01-2011, 09:52 AM
i hate mondays.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 09:54 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 09:55 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go
I thought that we were set up for a Live Standard Draft for 8/29? Which, I have to ask means what? lol

Glad to hear Hixon is looking good. Those knees can finish a player.

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 09:56 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/mission_never_changes_with_coughlin_hZXZrmReM7piJM ECVILf6N

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 09:57 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 10:00 AM
LT, you work out a lot have you ever tore a chest muscle? how long do they take to heal..

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 10:00 AM
Antrell's new cut


http://i54.twitgoo.com/fz9p3l.jpguhhhh....stylish?

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 10:02 AM
i hate mondays.me too.. hate them even more when its a holliday monday and i have to work...

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:02 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?
</p>


morning errbody.

Snake draft just means that the last pick in the first round (12th pick) gets 1st pick in the 2nd round (13th pick), and then since the first overall pick gets the last pick in the 2nd, they get first pick in the third, etc etc.</p>So, last pic of each round, get's the first pic of the next round? Do the remaining spots in the round remain consistent?

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 10:04 AM
Every time we sign of resign Carr, it makes me happy lol.
I dont know why....

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:05 AM
Our fearless leader, chest out!

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=611&amp;filename=gyock.jpg&amp;xsiz e=640&amp;ysize=640

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 10:07 AM
Our fearless leader, chest out!

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/scaled.php?tn=0&server=611&filename=gyock.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
maybe its a wrinkle or a shadow on his shirt but it almost looks like he has chest muscles lol

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:12 AM
LT, you work out a lot have you ever tore a chest muscle? how long do they take to heal..I'm thinking you mean "pull" and not "tear". Tear is much more serious, but I'm sure in layman terms-you would tell me that if feels like it's torn. lol.

A pulled pec can take some time to heal. A few weeks. It is easily aggravated by doing additional chest work or pulling your arm inward toward your body.

RICE= Rest, ice, compression, elevation is a good rule of thumb. But you can't do the compression and elevation with that part of your body.

Take advil for the inflamation, ice for a couple of days, try not to raise your arm over your head or stretch the pec for a couple of days. Run the hot water, as hot as you can stand it, in the shower for a few minutes on the area as well. Monitor for bruising or black and blue which will indicate a tear.

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:12 AM
Our fearless leader, chest out!

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=611&amp;filename=gyock.jpg&amp;xsiz e=640&amp;ysize=640
maybe its a wrinkle or a shadow on his shirt but it almost looks like he has chest muscles lollol

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:20 AM
Tuck &amp; Snee

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=611&amp;filename=62106878.jpg&amp;x size=640&amp;ysize=640

JPP!

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg740/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=740&amp;filename=wbfq.jpg&amp;xsize =640&amp;ysize=640

Kenny Philips bulked up his traps &amp; upper back NICE!

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=610&amp;filename=21188497.jpg&amp;x size=640&amp;ysize=640

See Urinalysis Sign-behind Eli. I'm thinking/hoping these test's are "on your honor sample donations".

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg616/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=616&amp;filename=mrgyvl.jpg&amp;xsi ze=640&amp;ysize=640

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 10:20 AM
LT, you work out a lot have you ever tore a chest muscle? how long do they take to heal..I'm thinking you mean "pull" and not "tear".* Tear is much more serious, but I'm sure in layman terms-you would tell me that if feels like it's torn. lol.

A pulled pec can take some time to heal.* A few weeks.* It is easily aggravated by doing additional chest work or pulling your arm inward toward your body.*

RICE= Rest, ice, compression, elevation is a good rule of thumb.* But you can't do the compression and elevation with that part of your body.

Take advil for the inflamation, ice for a couple of days, try not to raise your arm over your head or stretch the pec for a couple of days.* Run the hot water, as hot as you can stand it, in the shower for a few minutes on the area as well.* Monitor for bruising or black and blue which will indicate a tear.
thanks, i mean i'm happy knowing i have some muscle left that can be pulled lol
it is taking it sweet time to heal, doesnt help i have a 2 year old always jumping on me.. and everytime i reaggravate it the chest pressure feels like i'm having a heart attack...
thanks again
RICE.. should be easy enough to remember..

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 10:24 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. <u>I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story</u>
me too.

you see nicks or mario? travis is slim for tightend but the guy can catch.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:37 AM
i hate mondays.

i hate work

but my boss is out today and tom

so its a good thing

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:38 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go
I thought that we were set up for a Live Standard Draft for 8/29? Which, I have to ask means what? lol

Glad to hear Hixon is looking good. Those knees can finish a player.




na i dont think 8/29 is the date we're doing it

we are. Standard means you start 1 QB 2 RB 3WR 1 TE instead of a flex league which is 1 QB 2RB 2WR 1 WR/RB 1 TE

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 10:39 AM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:39 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.


na dude was a jalopy looking kind of guy. I didn't have my stop watch but im pretty sure not only did he look slow, but he was slow. But he was a big mother****er, decent hands though

ewww, what did u like in Beckum?

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:40 AM
LT, you work out a lot have you ever tore a chest muscle? how long do they take to heal..I'm thinking you mean "pull" and not "tear". Tear is much more serious, but I'm sure in layman terms-you would tell me that if feels like it's torn. lol.

A pulled pec can take some time to heal. A few weeks. It is easily aggravated by doing additional chest work or pulling your arm inward toward your body.

RICE= Rest, ice, compression, elevation is a good rule of thumb. But you can't do the compression and elevation with that part of your body.

Take advil for the inflamation, ice for a couple of days, try not to raise your arm over your head or stretch the pec for a couple of days. Run the hot water, as hot as you can stand it, in the shower for a few minutes on the area as well. Monitor for bruising or black and blue which will indicate a tear.
thanks, i mean i'm happy knowing i have some muscle left that can be pulled lol
it is taking it sweet time to heal, doesnt help i have a 2 year old always jumping on me.. and everytime i reaggravate it the chest pressure feels like i'm having a heart attack...
thanks again
RICE.. should be easy enough to remember..That's a tough one with the 2 yr old. lifting and holding the child against your body could aggravate it. Good luck with it.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:40 AM
i hate mondays.me too.. hate them even more when its a holliday monday and i have to work...

national maple syrup day?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:42 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?
</p>


morning errbody.

Snake draft just means that the last pick in the first round (12th pick) gets 1st pick in the 2nd round (13th pick), and then since the first overall pick gets the last pick in the 2nd, they get first pick in the third, etc etc.</p>So, last pic of each round, get's the first pic of the next round? Do the remaining spots in the round remain consistent?

yea

what do u mean remaining spots?

same order all draft, it just snakes , hence snake lol

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:42 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.


na dude was a jalopy looking kind of guy. I didn't have my <font color="#FF0000" size="5">stop watch</font> but im pretty sure not only did he look slow, but he was slow. But he was a big mother****er, decent hands though

ewww, what did u like in Beckum?
Now that's a true fan. I can't remember which game last year, I called the play, quick slant to Beckum, he caught it, failed to get a first, but I am optimistic about him since.

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 10:44 AM
i hate mondays.me too.. hate them even more when its a holliday monday and i have to work...

national maple syrup day?
if you want me to send you some maple syrup just ask my freind.. just dont tell me what/who you use it on lol
National Maple Syrup Day was 2 months ago btw

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:48 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?
</p>


morning errbody.

Snake draft just means that the last pick in the first round (12th pick) gets 1st pick in the 2nd round (13th pick), and then since the first overall pick gets the last pick in the 2nd, they get first pick in the third, etc etc.</p>So, last pic of each round, get's the first pic of the next round? Do the remaining spots in the round remain consistent?

yea

what do u mean remaining spots?

same order all draft, it just snakes , hence snake lol
ah, k. So, LT will pick 3rd thru every round, unless I work a trade with someone?

Next Question:

These are the roster spots we are drafting for:
<b id="yui_3_3_0_10_1312206816804102">QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, IR, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN Correct?

1 QB, 3 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 k, 1 def player--then IR and 7 bench spots?

How do you draft an IR player? Am I am free to build as much depth in any position I choose with my Bench spots? There is no restriction on position chosen for BN?


[/b]

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 10:53 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?
</p>


morning errbody.

Snake draft just means that the last pick in the first round (12th pick) gets 1st pick in the 2nd round (13th pick), and then since the first overall pick gets the last pick in the 2nd, they get first pick in the third, etc etc.</p>So, last pic of each round, get's the first pic of the next round? Do the remaining spots in the round remain consistent?

yea

what do u mean remaining spots?

same order all draft, it just snakes , hence snake lol
ah, k. So, LT will pick 3rd thru every round, unless I work a trade with someone?

Next Question:

These are the roster spots we are drafting for:
<b id="yui_3_3_0_10_1312206816804102">QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, IR, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN Correct?

1 QB, 3 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 k, 1 def player--then IR and 7 bench spots?

How do you draft an IR player? Am I am free to build as much depth in any position I choose with my Bench spots? There is no restriction on position chosen for BN?


[/b]

What's a $100 waiver budget?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:53 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. <u>I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story</u>
me too.

you see nicks or mario? travis is slim for tightend but the guy can catch.


yea they were alright

there were some murmurs about Nicks not having a great workout on his own during the lockout, but hye looked fine.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:54 AM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:55 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.


na dude was a jalopy looking kind of guy. I didn't have my <font color="#ff0000" size="5">stop watch</font> but im pretty sure not only did he look slow, but he was slow. But he was a big mother****er, decent hands though

ewww, what did u like in Beckum?
Now that's a true fan. I can't remember which game last year, I called the play, quick slant to Beckum, he caught it, failed to get a first, but I am optimistic about him since.


i don't want Beckum on the roster until he proves he learned how t oblock

NEED boss back

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 10:57 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?
</p>


morning errbody.

Snake draft just means that the last pick in the first round (12th pick) gets 1st pick in the 2nd round (13th pick), and then since the first overall pick gets the last pick in the 2nd, they get first pick in the third, etc etc.</p>So, last pic of each round, get's the first pic of the next round? Do the remaining spots in the round remain consistent?

yea

what do u mean remaining spots?

same order all draft, it just snakes , hence snake lol
ah, k. So, LT will pick 3rd thru every round, unless I work a trade with someone?

Next Question:

These are the roster spots we are drafting for:
<b id="yui_3_3_0_10_1312206816804102">QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, IR, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN Correct?

1 QB, 3 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 k, 1 def player--then IR and 7 bench spots?

How do you draft an IR player? Am I am free to build as much depth in any position I choose with my Bench spots? There is no restriction on position chosen for BN?


[/b]



no all odd number rounds u will pick 3rd in, all even numbered rounds you will pick 10th in

yea IR will be taken off. Thats just something i have in my league because we are doing keepers. Me and Blondie had a hectic weekend, we'll fix all the settings tonight

don't worry about the settings yet... we didn't set the league up. She just copied another leagues settings just so we can get it started

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 11:02 AM
ah, k. So, LT will pick 3rd thru every round, unless I work a trade with someone?

no...

Round 1
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12

Round 2
12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Round 3
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12

...so on and so forth.

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 11:03 AM
If I were standing next to Kareem on the line at the supermarket, there's no way I would know he was an nfl athlete.
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg615/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=615&amp;filename=kz1jc.jpg&amp;xsiz e=640&amp;ysize=640

David Diehl

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg738/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=738&amp;filename=9w5qz.jpg&amp;xsiz e=640&amp;ysize=640

Prince Get's #20.

http://i56.twitgoo.com/207x9o3.jpg

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:03 AM
Giants told osi he can seek a trade for a contract

It was reported that the Giants are only looking for a 1st rounder too

If we get a first rounder for Osi, we are winning. They say his hip may be acting up. Lets cut our losses already

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 11:06 AM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 11:07 AM
ah, k. So, LT will pick 3rd thru every round, unless I work a trade with someone?

no...

Round 1
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12

Round 2
12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Round 3
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12

...so on and so forth.
Thanks for clarifying, I get it know.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:11 AM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 11:11 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.


na dude was a jalopy looking kind of guy. I didn't have my <font color="#ff0000" size="5">stop watch</font> but im pretty sure not only did he look slow, but he was slow. But he was a big mother****er, decent hands though

ewww, what did u like in Beckum?
Now that's a true fan. I can't remember which game last year, I called the play, quick slant to Beckum, he caught it, failed to get a first, but I am optimistic about him since.
almost every time travis is on the field he seems to make a play. i dont understand matts hate. is he complete tightend? no, but he can be used as a big wr, hes pretty quick for his size, and has the strength to break the tackles of dbs.

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 11:11 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?
</p>


morning errbody.

Snake draft just means that the last pick in the first round (12th pick) gets 1st pick in the 2nd round (13th pick), and then since the first overall pick gets the last pick in the 2nd, they get first pick in the third, etc etc.</p>So, last pic of each round, get's the first pic of the next round? Do the remaining spots in the round remain consistent?

yea

what do u mean remaining spots?

same order all draft, it just snakes , hence snake lol
ah, k. So, LT will pick 3rd thru every round, unless I work a trade with someone?

Next Question:

These are the roster spots we are drafting for:
<b id="yui_3_3_0_10_1312206816804102">QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, IR, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN Correct?

1 QB, 3 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 k, 1 def player--then IR and 7 bench spots?

How do you draft an IR player? Am I am free to build as much depth in any position I choose with my Bench spots? There is no restriction on position chosen for BN?


[/b]



no all odd number rounds u will pick 3rd in, all even numbered rounds you will pick 10th in

yea IR will be taken off. Thats just something i have in my league because we are doing keepers. Me and Blondie had a hectic weekend, we'll fix all the settings tonight

don't worry about the settings yet... we didn't set the league up. She just copied another leagues settings just so we can get it started
No worries, I'm just trying to feel my way thru this. We have plenty of time.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:13 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.


na dude was a jalopy looking kind of guy. I didn't have my <font color="#ff0000" size="5">stop watch</font> but im pretty sure not only did he look slow, but he was slow. But he was a big mother****er, decent hands though

ewww, what did u like in Beckum?
Now that's a true fan. I can't remember which game last year, I called the play, quick slant to Beckum, he caught it, failed to get a first, but I am optimistic about him since.
almost every time travis is on the field he seems to make a play. i dont understand matts hate. is he complete tightend? no, but he can be used as a big wr, hes pretty quick for his size, and has the strength to break the tackles of dbs.


now i know u really don't watch the games

the guy is a tight end WHO CANT BLOCK

bottom line, we don't need him. Hes not THAT good fo a WR to the point where we should overlook how absolutely and undeniably awful he is at blocking

and i'll admit that i exaggerate alot, but i am dead serious when i say that he is PUTRID at blocking

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 11:14 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 11:14 AM
If I were standing next to Kareem on the line at the supermarket, there's no way I would know he was an nfl athlete.
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg615/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=615&amp;filename=kz1jc.jpg&amp;xsiz e=640&amp;ysize=640

David Diehl

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg738/scaled.php?tn=0&amp;server=738&amp;filename=9w5qz.jpg&amp;xsiz e=640&amp;ysize=640

Prince Get's #20.

http://i56.twitgoo.com/207x9o3.jpg
kareems getting old. i thought he was done at the beginning of last year, but he kicked ***.
lol im sure tc loves diehls shirt

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 11:17 AM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 11:18 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy, then there is a benefit with my 2nd and 3rd round pics. So I can save those for pos. that have better depth this year.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:21 AM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?


na its not actually for the first roudn why i like it, i just have certain guys i want to try and key and i dont think i'll be able to ge tthem with the 6 spot in the later rounds...

if u dont like the difference i'll swap the 6th with you.

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 11:26 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.*
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 11:27 AM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?


na its not actually for the first roudn why i like it, i just have certain guys i want to try and key and i dont think i'll be able to ge tthem with the 6 spot in the later rounds...

if u dont like the difference i'll swap the 6th with you.
na, thanks, but I think I'll let the chips stay where they landed with my pic this year.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:27 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 11:28 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.


na dude was a jalopy looking kind of guy. I didn't have my <font color="#ff0000" size="5">stop watch</font> but im pretty sure not only did he look slow, but he was slow. But he was a big mother****er, decent hands though

ewww, what did u like in Beckum?
Now that's a true fan. I can't remember which game last year, I called the play, quick slant to Beckum, he caught it, failed to get a first, but I am optimistic about him since.
almost every time travis is on the field he seems to make a play. i dont understand matts hate. is he complete tightend? no, but he can be used as a big wr, hes pretty quick for his size, and has the strength to break the tackles of dbs.


now i know u really don't watch the games

the guy is a tight end WHO CANT BLOCK

bottom line, we don't need him. Hes not THAT good fo a WR to the point where we should overlook how absolutely and undeniably awful he is at blocking
<u>
and i'll admit that i exaggerate alot, but i am dead serious when i say that he is PUTRID at blocking</u>
i agree, BUT the guy makes plays in the receiving game. that cant be argued. god forbid all our wrs drop like flies again, well still have this guy. theres nothing wrong with keeping a receiving tightend.

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 11:29 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard


I'm thinking Rodgers or Peterson....but I could flip to something else last second.

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 11:38 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.*
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard


I'm thinking Rodgers or Peterson....but I could flip to something else last second.
and the mind games begin lol.. the only thin i'll miss about not playing is the draft.. its alot of fun planning it out, or trying too

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 11:39 AM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.

No, Matt just wants to trade with me and I'm still thinking about it....

What I was telling you is you need to be careful when you are drafting. If you have too many people with the same bye week then you have to drop people to fill spots. Just pay attention to the guys you are drafting and what bye week they have.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:40 AM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.


na dude was a jalopy looking kind of guy. I didn't have my <font color="#ff0000" size="5">stop watch</font> but im pretty sure not only did he look slow, but he was slow. But he was a big mother****er, decent hands though

ewww, what did u like in Beckum?
Now that's a true fan. I can't remember which game last year, I called the play, quick slant to Beckum, he caught it, failed to get a first, but I am optimistic about him since.
almost every time travis is on the field he seems to make a play. i dont understand matts hate. is he complete tightend? no, but he can be used as a big wr, hes pretty quick for his size, and has the strength to break the tackles of dbs.


now i know u really don't watch the games

the guy is a tight end WHO CANT BLOCK

bottom line, we don't need him. Hes not THAT good fo a WR to the point where we should overlook how absolutely and undeniably awful he is at blocking
<u>
and i'll admit that i exaggerate alot, but i am dead serious when i say that he is PUTRID at blocking</u>
i agree, BUT the guy makes plays in the receiving game. that cant be argued. god forbid all our wrs drop like flies again, well still have this guy. theres nothing wrong with keeping a receiving tightend.


stop it. Waht plays has TRavis Beckum made. Guy had 13 receptions last year

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:42 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard


I'm thinking Rodgers or Peterson....but I could flip to something else last second.


i think u'll go either Vick, Rodgers, AP, CJ, or Foster

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 11:42 AM
Passing TD's still 6 right?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:43 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard


I'm thinking Rodgers or Peterson....but I could flip to something else last second.
and the mind games begin lol.. the only thin i'll miss about not playing is the draft.. its alot of fun planning it out, or trying too

na i think QB is def on his mind possibly...

little does he know that he could get that same QB later in the draft

i'll swap with u if u want lovebug

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:44 AM
redskins are still interested in Bradshaw - no bueno

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 11:45 AM
Under the current arrangement, NBC televises the season opener on
Thursday night in Week 1, and NFL Network has its own Thursday night
package late in the season, but Thursday nights from Weeks 2-9 donít
have any pro football. The league would like to create a second package
of Thursday night games covering those weeks and thinks it could get
$700 million a year for that package.Comcast, Turner, Fox and ESPN are all said to be interested in bidding on the Thursday night package.

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 11:46 AM
I wonder who will be the one to take Vick....

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 11:49 AM
"It is official that I will be an Indianapolis Colts for my entire
career," Manning said over the weekend. "I will not play for another
team. My last down of football will be with the Colts."

GOOOOOOOOD

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 11:49 AM
Under the current arrangement, NBC televises the season opener on Thursday night in Week 1, and NFL Network has its own Thursday night package late in the season, but Thursday nights from Weeks 2-9 donít have any pro football. The league would like to create a second package of Thursday night games covering those weeks and thinks it could get $700 million a year for that package.Comcast, Turner, Fox and ESPN are all said to be interested in bidding on the Thursday night package.</P>


wait, does that mean that once Thursday games start, we wont need NFL network to see whatever that game is? Cuz it could be one of those other networks instead? If so, that's Legittttt!!</P>

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 11:51 AM
"It is official that I will be an Indianapolis Colts for my entire career," Manning said over the weekend. "I will not play for another team. My last down of football will be with the Colts."

GOOOOOOOOD
</P>


Manning is the ****. It's good that he says that.
It's also good that we only have to play against him every 4 years! lol</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 11:52 AM
What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?

go to www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com.

Set up an account and look at the mock drafts that were done in your 3 spot 12 team leagues and then do some drafting of your own. That is the best site for mock drafts in my opinion.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:52 AM
Passing TD's still 6 right?


Si

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 11:53 AM
Under the current arrangement, NBC televises the season opener on Thursday night in Week 1, and NFL Network has its own Thursday night package late in the season, but Thursday nights from Weeks 2-9 donít have any pro football. The league would like to create a second package of Thursday night games covering those weeks and thinks it could get $700 million a year for that package.Comcast, Turner, Fox and ESPN are all said to be interested in bidding on the Thursday night package.</P>


wait, does that mean that once Thursday games start, we wont need NFL network to see whatever that game is? Cuz it could be one of those other networks instead? If so, that's Legittttt!!</P>probably just adding additional Thursday night games..

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 11:54 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard


I'm thinking Rodgers or Peterson....but I could flip to something else last second.


i think u'll go either Vick, Rodgers, AP, CJ, or Foster


I'll tell you right now if the QB points were normal (4 pts for passing TD) I would be all over Vick....but they are 6 Pts so it's actually tough...

honestly if they weren't 6 pts for the passing TD I would never pick a QB first it'd be RB for sure....but because of the scoring system I have to consider QB's.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:54 AM
Under the current arrangement, NBC televises the season opener on
Thursday night in Week 1, and NFL Network has its own Thursday night
package late in the season, but Thursday nights from Weeks 2-9 donít
have any pro football. The league would like to create a second package
of Thursday night games covering those weeks and thinks it could get
$700 million a year for that package.Comcast, Turner, Fox and ESPN are all said to be interested in bidding on the Thursday night package.

amen

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 11:55 AM
i'll swap with u if u want lovebug

I can't believe you hate your spot that bad...Dying to switch with anyone. lol

You are right in the middle and will probably take Andre.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:55 AM
I wonder who will be the one to take Vick....


no fanhood in fantasy and if i get stuck at 6 and hes there, he will be on my team

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:56 AM
What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?

go to www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com.

Set up an account and look at the mock drafts that were done in your 3 spot 12 team leagues and then do some drafting of your own. That is the best site for mock drafts in my opinion.


u dont even have to sign up, im not. I just use it

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 11:58 AM
<font color="#0000FF">Under the current arrangement</font>, NBC televises the season opener on Thursday night in Week 1, and NFL Network has its own Thursday night package late in the season, but Thursday nights from Weeks 2-9 donít have any pro football. The league would like to create a second package of Thursday night games covering those weeks and thinks it could get $700 million a year for that package.Comcast, Turner, Fox and ESPN are all said to be interested in bidding on the Thursday night package.</p>


wait, does that mean that once Thursday games start, we wont need NFL network to see whatever that game is? Cuz it could be one of those other networks instead? If so, that's Legittttt!!</p>
Not sure when that is over but until then it's NFL Network...Would be pretty awesome to get it on Fox or ESPN though as you said...

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 11:58 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..Good tip--thank you. I was trying do a few mocks-late Sat nite, but they were full. Then Sunday we got busy. I intend on doing a few of those

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:58 AM
i'll swap with u if u want lovebug

I can't believe you hate your spot that bad...Dying to switch with anyone. lol

You are right in the middle and will probably take Andre.



Andre is on my short list

I just dont like the middle of the draft this year. In past years I have, but I would rather be at the ends one way or another

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 11:59 AM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard


I'm thinking Rodgers or Peterson....but I could flip to something else last second.


i think u'll go either Vick, Rodgers, AP, CJ, or Foster


I'll tell you right now if the QB points were normal (4 pts for passing TD) I would be all over Vick....but they are 6 Pts so it's actually tough...

honestly if they weren't 6 pts for the passing TD I would never pick a QB first it'd be RB for sure....but because of the scoring system I have to consider QB's.


obviously im looking to trade out of the 6th spot, but if ur relaly that hell bent on going QB then u'd kinda be stupid not to trade with me. There MAY possibly be 1 QB taken before me in the draft, you might as well trade with me so that way u get the quicker 2nd rounder

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:01 PM
What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?

go to www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com.

Set up an account and look at the mock drafts that were done in your 3 spot 12 team leagues and then do some drafting of your own. That is the best site for mock drafts in my opinion.


u dont even have to sign up, im not. I just use it

I know, but if you sign up it saves all your mocks on a draftboard. Evaluates them, gives you projected points and you can see what drafts worked and which ones didn't.

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:03 PM
Passing TD's still 6 right?


Si

Then getting a top tier QB is a must. It would change the draft alot if it went down to 4 but if there was a vote I would be for 6. We will see 8 QB's gone in the first 3 rds I bet. lol

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 12:03 PM
What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?

go to www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com.

Set up an account and look at the mock drafts that were done in your 3 spot 12 team leagues and then do some drafting of your own. That is the best site for mock drafts in my opinion.
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DavenIII
08-01-2011, 12:03 PM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard


I'm thinking Rodgers or Peterson....but I could flip to something else last second.


i think u'll go either Vick, Rodgers, AP, CJ, or Foster


I'll tell you right now if the QB points were normal (4 pts for passing TD) I would be all over Vick....but they are 6 Pts so it's actually tough...

honestly if they weren't 6 pts for the passing TD I would never pick a QB first it'd be RB for sure....but because of the scoring system I have to consider QB's.


obviously im looking to trade out of the 6th spot, but if ur relaly that hell bent on going QB then u'd kinda be stupid not to trade with me. There MAY possibly be 1 QB taken before me in the draft, you might as well trade with me so that way u get the quicker 2nd rounder


Generally when Teams trade down in the draft they get something, you want me to trade with you I'd be willing to deal maybe...but what do I get :P

anyhow Lunch...be back later.

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:04 PM
Good Morning all!'

What's a snake drafts?

MMB and Kase saw practices this weekend? Offense's timing is off?

What's the latest with Snelling?


it means whoever has the first pick in the first round will have the last pick in the second round - then repeat process for the rest of the draft

yea it was cool. Well I was there Saturday and they looked alrite. Hixon and Cruz stood out to me... i just was reading the tweets from yesterday and it seems like the offense wasn't together. <u>That or the defensive secondary was roaring to go</u>
dont be silly.

hixon and cruz were doing good though? any crazy catches or whatnot.


well they were running crisp routes and making catchers. Hix's cuts looked real good. I dont think hes 100% like some reporters have been reporting, but apparenbtly he looked even better yesterday

Beckum and Calhoun look like they added some mass

We got some big country hick TE. Dude is huge, but slow. forgot his name already

We need Bradshaw back - i'll just leave it at that. Hertzlick's whole fam was there. I hope that kid pans out for us and becomes a starter. Awesome feel good story
Was the TE really slow, or just look slow? I remember Bavaro looked like he was running in slo mo and he was actually moving.

I liked what I saw in Beckum last year. +1 on Herzlick.


na dude was a jalopy looking kind of guy. I didn't have my <font color="#ff0000" size="5">stop watch</font> but im pretty sure not only did he look slow, but he was slow. But he was a big mother****er, decent hands though

ewww, what did u like in Beckum?
Now that's a true fan. I can't remember which game last year, I called the play, quick slant to Beckum, he caught it, failed to get a first, but I am optimistic about him since.
almost every time travis is on the field he seems to make a play. i dont understand matts hate. is he complete tightend? no, but he can be used as a big wr, hes pretty quick for his size, and has the strength to break the tackles of dbs.


now i know u really don't watch the games

the guy is a tight end WHO CANT BLOCK

bottom line, we don't need him. Hes not THAT good fo a WR to the point where we should overlook how absolutely and undeniably awful he is at blocking
<u>
and i'll admit that i exaggerate alot, but i am dead serious when i say that he is PUTRID at blocking</u>
i agree, BUT the guy makes plays in the receiving game. that cant be argued. god forbid all our wrs drop like flies again, well still have this guy. theres nothing wrong with keeping a receiving tightend.


stop it. Waht plays has TRavis Beckum made. Guy had 13 receptions last year
and a td in the lions game and a td in the first eagles game and when hes on the field and we needed a first he has delivered a few times. its not like im saying hes the next gonzo. was mattews on your **** list too cause he couldnt catch?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:04 PM
What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?

go to www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com.

Set up an account and look at the mock drafts that were done in your 3 spot 12 team leagues and then do some drafting of your own. That is the best site for mock drafts in my opinion.


u dont even have to sign up, im not. I just use it

I know, but if you sign up it saves all your mocks on a draftboard. Evaluates them, gives you projected points and you can see what drafts worked and which ones didn't.


yea but its based off their scoring

and if u'll notice their rankings of players, i relaly owuldn't care what their opinions are lol

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:05 PM
Passing TD's still 6 right?


Si

Then getting a top tier QB is a must. It would change the draft alot if it went down to 4 but if there was a vote I would be for 6. We will see 8 QB's gone in the first 3 rds I bet. lol


ehhh could be, but i think there are alot of QBs out there this year

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:05 PM
I wonder who will be the one to take Vick....


no fanhood in fantasy and if i get stuck at 6 and hes there, he will be on my team

I would be lying to say I was not strongly considering taking him at 2. If he can stay healthy and that's a big IF he could and probably will score more than anyone.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:06 PM
make the first pick count LT, its a long wait till its your turn again..exactly, thanks Bandy.
mock drafts are your freind..i was new to playing as well what i did was read the "experts" picks at that spot i was drafting not so much the player they picked but the position..

and Daven is #1

thats a wildcard


I'm thinking Rodgers or Peterson....but I could flip to something else last second.


i think u'll go either Vick, Rodgers, AP, CJ, or Foster


I'll tell you right now if the QB points were normal (4 pts for passing TD) I would be all over Vick....but they are 6 Pts so it's actually tough...

honestly if they weren't 6 pts for the passing TD I would never pick a QB first it'd be RB for sure....but because of the scoring system I have to consider QB's.


obviously im looking to trade out of the 6th spot, but if ur relaly that hell bent on going QB then u'd kinda be stupid not to trade with me. There MAY possibly be 1 QB taken before me in the draft, you might as well trade with me so that way u get the quicker 2nd rounder


Generally when Teams trade down in the draft they get something, you want me to trade with you I'd be willing to deal maybe...but what do I get :P

anyhow Lunch...be back later.


lol trading total draft positions

the thing u would be getting is abetter even round picks and u'd be able to get the guy u want at #1 at #6

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:07 PM
What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?

go to www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com.

Set up an account and look at the mock drafts that were done in your 3 spot 12 team leagues and then do some drafting of your own. That is the best site for mock drafts in my opinion.


u dont even have to sign up, im not. I just use it

I know, but if you sign up it saves all your mocks on a draftboard. Evaluates them, gives you projected points and you can see what drafts worked and which ones didn't.


yea but its based off their scoring

and if u'll notice their rankings of players, i relaly owuldn't care what their opinions are lol

I totally agree, I don't ever look but for LT it could be helpful.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:07 PM
Marvin Austin seems to be turning some heads - im lovin it

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:08 PM
no team seems willing to give up a 1st round for osi yet. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:10 PM
Marvin Austin seems to be turning some heads - im lovin it
http://images.wikia.com/simpsons/images/6/6a/Mr_Burns_evil.gif

yesssss, excellent

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:10 PM
Passing TD's still 6 right?


Si

Then getting a top tier QB is a must. It would change the draft alot if it went down to 4 but if there was a vote I would be for 6. We will see 8 QB's gone in the first 3 rds I bet. lol


ehhh could be, but i think there are alot of QBs out there this year

Well yeah duh, there are 64 of them at least. But there are only 4 or 5 that are Elite. I think Eli has a chance to put up some big numbers this year honestly.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:12 PM
and a td in the lions game and a td in the first eagles game and when hes on the field and we needed a first he has delivered a few times. its not like im saying hes the next gonzo. was mattews on your **** list too cause he couldnt catch?


bro ur telling me a guy with 2 TDs and 13 catches comes up big...

He caught a TD in a loss when we were down 2 TDs... thats coming up big?

No, I just prefer my backup tight ends to be able to block though rather than be a pass catcher seeing as how most of their time of the field would be during two TE sets which predominantly are run sets

Beckum gets special packages iwth him in that cause minimal damage. Hes useless and wasting a roster spot.

Bottom line he barely contributes to the receiving game and is AWFUL at blocking and is a tight end. How can u even be happy with a player like that? Im not writing him off yet, because it looks like he added some mass. Maybe he can start blocking, who knows. But to say your happy we have him or that he comes up big is mind bottling

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:12 PM
I wonder who will be the one to take Vick....


no fanhood in fantasy and if i get stuck at 6 and hes there, he will be on my team

I would be lying to say I was not strongly considering taking him at 2. If he can stay healthy and that's a big IF he could and probably will score more than anyone.


im counting on him coming to the Terror Squad

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 12:12 PM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?
</P>


AP, Foster, CJ.</P>


I'm 4th and almost certainly going for Ray Rice, now that Mcgahee is gone.</P>

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:14 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?#NYG:
Perry Fewell says he's expecting a "quantum leap" from S Kenny Phillips
this year. He said "I protected him last year" after knee surgery.</span></h6>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:14 PM
no team seems willing to give up a 1st round for osi yet. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm


heard we got offered a 2 and 4

it just started. We reportedly got offered a 2nd rounder a couple of days ago

I think somebody will give it up for him

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:15 PM
Passing TD's still 6 right?


Si

Then getting a top tier QB is a must. It would change the draft alot if it went down to 4 but if there was a vote I would be for 6. We will see 8 QB's gone in the first 3 rds I bet. lol


ehhh could be, but i think there are alot of QBs out there this year

Well yeah duh, there are 64 of them at least. But there are only 4 or 5 that are Elite. I think Eli has a chance to put up some big numbers this year honestly.


4 or 5? I'd say there are 6 Elite QBs and then another 4 that could put up numbers like that

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:16 PM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?
</p>


AP, Foster, CJ.</p>


I'm 4th and almost certainly going for Ray Rice, now that Mcgahee is gone.</p>

yea but alot of people don't have the backs in that order. That is typically the top 3... but in QB heavy leagues like ours u can't kill someone for going QB

hence why having QB at 6 points is a good thing

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:16 PM
lol jeff weaver is a woman.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 12:17 PM
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":1}'>
<DIV class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft='{"type":2}'>In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</DIV><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft='{"type":3}'>?#NYG: Perry Fewell says he's expecting a "quantum leap" from S Kenny Phillips this year. He said "I protected him last year" after knee surgery.</SPAN></H6>


</P>


I hope:

1) Phillips becomes the devastating safety threat we anticipated.
2) Hits like a truck this year
3) Teammates chip in for his fines =P</P>


lol</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:17 PM
<div class="report">


NFL Network's Michael Lombardi suggests Pittsburgh as a possible landing spot for Randy Moss.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Lombardi is merely connecting dots on this one, not
reporting. The Steelers lost out on red-zone threat Plaxico Burress,
and Lombardi believes they're a little "light" at the position with
Hines Ward and Emmanuel Sanders coming back from offseason surgeries.
Moss doesn't exactly fit the Steelers mold, but crazier matches have
been made.
</div>

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 12:18 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:18 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?#NYG:
Perry Fewell says he's expecting a "quantum leap" from S Kenny Phillips
this year. He said "I protected him last year" after knee surgery.</span></h6>

yea man im expecting a big year from Phillips

I really don't mind the lack of moves we made

I think its time we have to rely on Beatty and the Baas signing is good

I feel fine going wtih Goff and Boley at LB. I would like to sign a vet OLB to replace sintim. I just can't see him being effective. I was wrong about him, i thought he would be injured but hes back and playing already - forgot who i was talking to about that. I think dezz?

I wasn't feeling too hot about our DTs, but Marvin Austin may be a freak. If we get rid of Osi, i woud like to sign a guy like Jason Taylor.

But we need Bradshaw back. Maybe even sign a vet WR. I really can't say i'd be upset if TO was in blue this year

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:19 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?#NYG:
Perry Fewell says he's expecting a "quantum leap" from S Kenny Phillips
this year. He said <font color="#0000FF">"I protected him last year"</font> after knee surgery.</span></h6>
From haters like YOU!!! lol

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:20 PM
<div class="report">


NFL Network's Michael Lombardi suggests Pittsburgh as a possible landing spot for Randy Moss.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Lombardi is merely connecting dots on this one, not
reporting. The Steelers lost out on red-zone threat Plaxico Burress,
and Lombardi believes they're a little "light" at the position with
Hines Ward and Emmanuel Sanders coming back from offseason surgeries.
Moss doesn't exactly fit the Steelers mold, but crazier matches have
been made.
</div>

can't say it would be the worst spot

Moss's vlaue sky rockets and WAllace's drops

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 12:20 PM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?
</P>


AP, Foster, CJ.</P>


I'm 4th and almost certainly going for Ray Rice, now that Mcgahee is gone.</P>




yea but alot of people don't have the backs in that order. That is typically the top 3... but in QB heavy leagues like ours u can't kill someone for going QB

hence why having QB at 6 points is a good thing
</P>


Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</P>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:20 PM
AP, Foster, CJ.


I'm 4th and almost certainly going for Ray Rice, now that Mcgahee is gone.</p>
I will not touch Foster with a 10 ft pole. Rice might be coming to me at 2. Possibly CJ. or....

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:20 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.

like who?

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 12:22 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.

like who?
</P>


Well some guy who I never heard of is projected high at RB for Zona. Some guy I never heard of at RB for Wash.</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:24 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.
They really have...But it seems a little easier than last year.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:25 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.

like who?
</p>


Well some guy who I never heard of is projected high at RB for Zona. Some guy I never heard of at RB for Wash.</p>

i was really high on Torrain

but then they traded for hightower

Ryan Williams and Helu are rooks

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 12:26 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.
They really have...But it seems a little easier than last year.
</P>


Not sure about that. So much uncertainty with the lockout, plus there may be a lot of injuries in camps.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:26 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.
They really have...But it seems a little easier than last year.


i actually think its more difficult to project

just because i've seen the QB runs differ SOOO much

i've seen 5 QBs gone in the first two rounds, i've seen 5 QBs go through 5 rounds

its crazy

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:27 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.
They really have...But it seems a little easier than last year.
</p>


Not sure about that. So much uncertainty with the lockout, plus there may be a lot of injuries in camps.</p>

yea thats another thing...

mocks are kinda useless right now. Alot of good fantasy players still unsigned. And for instance Hightower just got traded yesterday. kind of gives Beanie Wells a lift while ****s on Ryan Torrain

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:30 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?#NYG:
Perry Fewell says he's expecting a "quantum leap" from S Kenny Phillips
this year. He said "I protected him last year" after knee surgery.</span></h6>

yea man im expecting a big year from Phillips

I really don't mind the lack of moves we made

I think its time we have to rely on Beatty and the Baas signing is good

I feel fine going wtih Goff and Boley at LB. I would like to sign a vet OLB to replace sintim. I just can't see him being effective. I was wrong about him, i thought he would be injured but hes back and playing already - forgot who i was talking to about that. I think dezz?

I wasn't feeling too hot about our DTs, but Marvin Austin may be a freak. If we get rid of Osi, i woud like to sign a guy like Jason Taylor.

But we need Bradshaw back. Maybe even sign a vet WR. I really can't say i'd be upset if TO was in blue this year
yea that was me. id take taylor if the price is right.
im liking snelling if bradshaw walks.
TO? why does everyone think we need another wr?

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:31 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?#NYG:
Perry Fewell says he's expecting a "quantum leap" from S Kenny Phillips
this year. He said <font color="#0000ff">"I protected him last year"</font> after knee surgery.</span></h6>
From haters like YOU!!! lol
lol iv always supported kp.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 12:31 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:33 PM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?
</p>


AP, Foster, CJ.</p>


I'm 4th and almost certainly going for Ray Rice, now that Mcgahee is gone.</p>




yea but alot of people don't have the backs in that order. That is typically the top 3... but in QB heavy leagues like ours u can't kill someone for going QB

hence why having QB at 6 points is a good thing
</p>


Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>
Vick, Aaron, Rivers, Brady, Brees, Manning and maybe Schaub could all put up similar points. Then after that I feel it's a fairly big drop off with Romo, Big Ben, Eli and Ryan. After that it's a freefall with Flacco, Freeman, Stafford etc.

That is what makes Rodgers and Vick wildcards though. They run and will get your more points that way...

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:35 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?#NYG:
Perry Fewell says he's expecting a "quantum leap" from S Kenny Phillips
this year. He said "I protected him last year" after knee surgery.</span></h6>

yea man im expecting a big year from Phillips

I really don't mind the lack of moves we made

I think its time we have to rely on Beatty and the Baas signing is good

I feel fine going wtih Goff and Boley at LB. I would like to sign a vet OLB to replace sintim. I just can't see him being effective. I was wrong about him, i thought he would be injured but hes back and playing already - forgot who i was talking to about that. I think dezz?

I wasn't feeling too hot about our DTs, but Marvin Austin may be a freak. If we get rid of Osi, i woud like to sign a guy like Jason Taylor.

But we need Bradshaw back. Maybe even sign a vet WR. I really can't say i'd be upset if TO was in blue this year
yea that was me. id take taylor if the price is right.
im liking snelling if bradshaw walks.
TO? why does everyone think we need another wr?


I gott abe honest, i like SNelling even if we ge tbradshaw back

Hes a FBack that can run... but if we're going to spend money on a FB go ge tLeron McClain. That dude is the total package

Because Smith and Barden will be PUP. Hixon looks good right now, but talk to me 3 weeks form now. Who knows how he holds up. And plus if hes our 3rd WR then that means we take him away special teams

I like Devin Thomas I actually think he may be a dark horse and VCruz looked good, but ya know Sinorice Moss has looked good the first week of camp

I know ur on Jurrgens, but he looked like hes gonna need at least a year. He doesn't seem to be NFL ready right now when i saw him. I'll be there again this week and keep my eye

Getting a guy like TO one year deal, he can only help

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:35 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.
They really have...But it seems a little easier than last year.
</p>


Not sure about that.<font color="#0000FF"> So much uncertainty</font> with the lockout, plus there may be a lot of injuries in camps.</p>
You are very right about that. Plus so many people switching teams.

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:37 PM
<div class="report">


NFL Network's Michael Lombardi confirms the Rams
are the team "most interested" in and "doing the most homework on" free
agent Ronnie Brown.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The Rams are also interested in Jason Snelling,
which would "eliminate" Brown, according to Lombardi. The idea is to
find a nickel tailback who can "complement" Steven Jackson while also
functioning as the "Kevin Faulk of Josh McDaniels' offense." S-Jax's
receiving numbers could take a hit this year.


Talk about killing S Jax's value...
</div>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:37 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.
They really have...But it seems a little easier than last year.
</p>


Not sure about that. So much uncertainty with the lockout, plus there may be a lot of injuries in camps.</p>

yea thats another thing...

mocks are kinda useless right now. Alot of good fantasy players still unsigned. And for instance Hightower just got traded yesterday. kind of gives Beanie Wells a lift while ****s on Ryan Torrain

Which is exactly why I am down for having the draft last as possible. lol

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:38 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?#NYG:
Perry Fewell says he's expecting a "quantum leap" from S Kenny Phillips
this year. He said <font color="#0000ff">"I protected him last year"</font> after knee surgery.</span></h6>
From haters like YOU!!! lol
lol <font color="#FF0000">iv always supported kp.</font>

THAT is funny Dez. Fixed it for ya...

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:39 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?

probably worse at this point to be honest. They've lose some players and really only added Plax 4 Braylon...

And for the first half of the season thats def going to be chalked up as a loss for the Jets, but it may end up being a push

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:39 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 12:40 PM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?
</P>


AP, Foster, CJ.</P>


I'm 4th and almost certainly going for Ray Rice, now that Mcgahee is gone.</P>




yea but alot of people don't have the backs in that order. That is typically the top 3... but in QB heavy leagues like ours u can't kill someone for going QB

hence why having QB at 6 points is a good thing
</P>


Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</P>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</P>



Vick, Aaron, Rivers, Brady, Brees, Manning and maybe Schaub could all put up similar points. Then after that I feel it's a fairly big drop off with Romo, Big Ben, Eli and Ryan. After that it's a freefall with Flacco, Freeman, Stafford etc.

That is what makes Rodgers and Vick wildcards though. They run and will get your more points that way...
</P>


With Jones and White on the field, Matty Ice may have a huge year.</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:40 PM
It is SOOOOOO nice to be back on the boards. lol as gay as that sounds....

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:40 PM
<div class="report">


NFL Network's Michael Lombardi confirms the Rams
are the team "most interested" in and "doing the most homework on" free
agent Ronnie Brown.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The Rams are also interested in Jason Snelling,
which would "eliminate" Brown, according to Lombardi. The idea is to
find a nickel tailback who can "complement" Steven Jackson while also
functioning as the "Kevin Faulk of Josh McDaniels' offense." S-Jax's
receiving numbers could take a hit this year.


Talk about killing S Jax's value...
</div>

yea i heard that

In a way I actually think it could help SJax though. Dude gets hurt every year because hes worn down. Plus another weapon to open things up

I actually relaly thnk Snelling would be the best signing for him though

bandwgn86
08-01-2011, 12:41 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?hate FF talk that much that you want to change subject to the Jets ;)

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 12:42 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</P>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:42 PM
I think bye weeks are going to be a big issue for all of us this year. Every time I do a mock draft it almost seems like every player I get has a week 6 or 7 bye week. Something for you to focus on LT.


we got a trade or what?
LT must beware of those offering him the wrong advices.


na i just don't like the 6 spot and he don't like the 2 spot. So i told him i'd switch with him
Looking at this for the first time, I'm thinking pics 2-5 are not as good as say 6-9. If you got 2nd pic, you don't pic again till 21? If you pic 6, then you pic again at 19?

So I consider that if Matt, the fantasy guru, prefers #2 in this scenario, First round pics are that much more critical.

What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?
</p>


AP, Foster, CJ.</p>


I'm 4th and almost certainly going for Ray Rice, now that Mcgahee is gone.</p>




yea but alot of people don't have the backs in that order. That is typically the top 3... but in QB heavy leagues like ours u can't kill someone for going QB

hence why having QB at 6 points is a good thing
</p>


Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>
Vick, Aaron, Rivers, Brady, Brees, Manning and maybe Schaub could all put up similar points. Then after that I feel it's a fairly big drop off with Romo, Big Ben, Eli and Ryan. After that it's a freefall with Flacco, Freeman, Stafford etc.

That is what makes Rodgers and Vick wildcards though. They run and will get your more points that way...


Vick - Arog - Rivers - Brady - Manning - Breez

Schaub - Romo - Eli - Kolb (ohhh yea especially of Bray signs there)

Freeman - Flacco - Ryan - Ben

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:43 PM
Mocks have been bizaare so far. There are guys I've never heard of out there.
They really have...But it seems a little easier than last year.
</p>


Not sure about that. So much uncertainty with the lockout, plus there may be a lot of injuries in camps.</p>

yea thats another thing...

mocks are kinda useless right now. Alot of good fantasy players still unsigned. And for instance Hightower just got traded yesterday. kind of gives Beanie Wells a lift while ****s on Ryan Torrain

Which is exactly why I am down for having the draft last as possible. lol


no ur just a ***** about possible injuries lol

i think we're looking to do it labor day weekend if everybody is around

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:44 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</p>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</p>

yea Pats are scary

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:51 PM
With Jones and White on the field, Matty Ice may have a huge year.
<div class="report">


According to NFL Network's Mike Mayock -- who's
live in Flowery Branch -- No. 6 overall pick Julio Jones "may already be
the most impressive player" at Falcons training camp.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Mayock described Jones as "more explosive off the
ball than they thought." There's no question that Jones is being
counted on as the No. 2 passing game option in Atlanta, and it'd be
especially beneficial to his fantasy value if the Falcons opened up
their offense. Michael Turner is slowing down and coming off groin
surgery, so it makes sense for the Falcons to throw more.
</div>

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:53 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?i said worse last year and ill say it again!

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:54 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</p>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</p>
I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone said their D was inexperienced and too youthful last year. I still think they finished top 10. Now that have another year under their belt. Plus Brady and the entire team have got to be sick of hearing everyone blow the Jets.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:56 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</p>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</p>
I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone said their D was inexperienced and too youthful last year. I still think they finished top 10. Now that have another year under their belt. Plus Brady and the entire team have got to be sick of hearing everyone blow the Jets.




fantasy top 10

but they really weren't, they were pretty bad in giving up yards

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 12:56 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</P>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</P>



I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone said their D was inexperienced and too youthful last year. I still think they finished top 10. Now that have another year under their belt. Plus Brady and the entire team have got to be sick of hearing everyone blow the Jets.


</P>


To me,right now at least, they are head and shoulders the best team in football.</P>


</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:57 PM
The Giants hope to re-sign Smith, but GM Jerry Reese has confirmed he
won't be ready for Week 1 after December microfracture surgery. <font color="#0000FF" size="4">Giants
players are under the impression that Smith will miss "at least" the
first month</font>, making him a PUP candidate. Mario Manningham (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4654/Mario-Manningham) and Hakeem Nicks (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5136/Hakeem-Nicks) are the Giants' receivers to target in fantasy drafts this season. Don't bother with Smith.

Anyone else heard anything about this?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:58 PM
yea i heard smith was gonna be PUP

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:58 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">WR Randy Moss has decided to retire according to his agent.</span></h6>
i'll believe it when i see it

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 12:59 PM
The Giants hope to re-sign Smith, but GM Jerry Reese has confirmed he
won't be ready for Week 1 after December microfracture surgery. <font color="#0000ff" size="4">Giants
players are under the impression that Smith will miss "at least" the
first month</font>, making him a PUP candidate. Mario Manningham (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4654/Mario-Manningham) and Hakeem Nicks (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5136/Hakeem-Nicks) are the Giants' receivers to target in fantasy drafts this season. Don't bother with Smith.

Anyone else heard anything about this?
yea. inreesewetrust said smith might be out until week 4

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</p>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</p>



I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone said their D was inexperienced and too youthful last year. I still think they finished top 10. Now that have another year under their belt. Plus Brady and the entire team have got to be sick of hearing everyone blow the Jets.


</p>


To me,right now at least, they are head and shoulders the best team in football.</p>


</p>
Not better than the Eagles...

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</P>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</P>


</P>


I'm inclined to agree. The patriots got help where they needed it, and have definitely gotten younger. Scary for that division. and afc in general.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</p>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</p>



I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone said their D was inexperienced and too youthful last year. I still think they finished top 10. Now that have another year under their belt. Plus Brady and the entire team have got to be sick of hearing everyone blow the Jets.


</p>


To me,right now at least, they are head and shoulders the best team in football.</p>


</p>

that may be overkill pappy

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:00 PM
Gilbride likes what hes seeing out of Beatty

thats a good sign

I think our line may enbd up being the best its been since 08

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:01 PM
RV reporting that Snelling is in the Giants building at the moment

AB better get back

I ain't killing Reese at all cuz his hands are tied this offseason - but getting Bradshaw back is a must

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 01:01 PM
hey guys..........guess what?





12 more days until preseason suuuuuuckaaas

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:03 PM
hey guys..........guess what?





12 more days until preseason suuuuuuckaaas


i dont want to think about it until we get Bradshaw and Boss back

we lost out on Heap and Zach Miller is def out of our range

Something needs t ogive with those two

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 01:05 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</p>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</p>



I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone said their D was inexperienced and too youthful last year. I still think they finished top 10. Now that have another year under their belt. Plus Brady and the entire team have got to be sick of hearing everyone blow the Jets.


</p>


To me,right now at least, they are head and shoulders the best team in football.</p>


</p>i like the packers. theyre going to have the superbowl swag and i think theyll come out swinging this year like the giants did after we won the superbowl

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:06 PM
RV reporting that Snelling is in the Giants building at the moment

AB better get back

I ain't killing Reese at all cuz his hands are tied this offseason - but getting Bradshaw back is a must



I would really be happy if we got Snelling.

I am not sure why you think we have to get Bradshaw back....I would like to see him back to but I guess I just don't think we would be losing alot without him.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:08 PM
RV reporting that Snelling is in the Giants building at the moment

AB better get back

I ain't killing Reese at all cuz his hands are tied this offseason - but getting Bradshaw back is a must



I would really be happy if we got Snelling.

I am not sure why you think we have to get Bradshaw back....I would like to see him back to but I guess I just don't think we would be losing alot without him.


because i saw DJ Ware at practice saturday and i remembered why he doesn't get touches for us

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:08 PM
Jets better than last year, or worse than last year?
I have to say worse. The Pats are going to win that division this year. I could see the Jets missing the playoffs all together honestly.
</p>


Right now, and I'm not kidding, the Pats may be in position for an incredible season. This team has youth AND experience on defense and Tom Brady and ocho on offense.</p>



I couldn't agree with you more. Everyone said their D was inexperienced and too youthful last year. I still think they finished top 10. Now that have another year under their belt. Plus Brady and the entire team have got to be sick of hearing everyone blow the Jets.


</p>


To me,right now at least, they are head and shoulders the best team in football.</p>


</p>i like the packers. theyre going to have the superbowl swag and i think theyll come out swinging this year like the giants did after we won the superbowl

Its a shame we went from swaggin to shot

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 01:09 PM
RV reporting that Snelling is in the Giants building at the moment

AB better get back

I ain't killing Reese at all cuz his hands are tied this offseason - but getting Bradshaw back is a must



I would really be happy if we got Snelling.

I am not sure why you think we have to get Bradshaw back....I would like to see him back to but I guess I just don't think we would be losing alot without him.
yea i agree. i know i bust pizz balls about him, hes a good back and i love his toughness but when its all said and done, hes replaceable. and snelling would be a great replacement imo.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:10 PM
RV reporting that Snelling is in the Giants building at the moment

AB better get back

I ain't killing Reese at all cuz his hands are tied this offseason - but getting Bradshaw back is a must



I would really be happy if we got Snelling.

I am not sure why you think we have to get Bradshaw back....I would like to see him back to but I guess I just don't think we would be losing alot without him.
yea i agree. i know i bust pizz balls about him, hes a good back and i love his toughness but when its all said and done, hes replaceable. and snelling would be a great replacement imo.


dude Ware sucks

Scott will over take him - not that its saying much

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:10 PM
Boss back

we lost out on Heap and Zach Miller is def out of our range

Something needs to give with those two

I don't get Boss. What kind of leverage is he using, does he not want to be here or what? I have not heard about him getting interest from any other teams either...

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 01:11 PM
hey guys..........guess what?





12 more days until preseason suuuuuuckaaas
= awesome, cannot wait!

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:12 PM
Boss back

we lost out on Heap and Zach Miller is def out of our range

Something needs to give with those two

I don't get Boss. What kind of leverage is he using, does he not want to be here or what? I have not heard about him getting interest from any other teams either...


i think he has to have a nice offer on the table from somewhere else and hes torn

bradshaw i think he just holding out for more money and thinks he'll ge tit somewhere else

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:12 PM
RV reporting that Snelling is in the Giants building at the moment

AB better get back

I ain't killing Reese at all cuz his hands are tied this offseason - but getting Bradshaw back is a must



I would really be happy if we got Snelling.

I am not sure why you think we have to get Bradshaw back....I would like to see him back to but I guess I just don't think we would be losing alot without him.


because i saw DJ Ware at practice saturday and i remembered why he doesn't get touches for us

I think we keep him around cause he's a hell of a cameraman...

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03EBbOqdE9blW/610x.jpg

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 01:12 PM
RV reporting that Snelling is in the Giants building at the moment

AB better get back

I ain't killing Reese at all cuz his hands are tied this offseason - but getting Bradshaw back is a must



I would really be happy if we got Snelling.

I am not sure why you think we have to get Bradshaw back....I would like to see him back to but I guess I just don't think we would be losing alot without him.


because i saw DJ Ware at practice saturday and i remembered why he doesn't get touches for us
lol well i DID read he was catching passes out of the backfield, for whatever thats worth

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:13 PM
Scott will over take him - not that its saying much



I hope that kids tears it up. He's a terp...

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 01:13 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 01:14 PM
hey guys..........guess what?





12 more days until preseason suuuuuuckaaas
</P>


also 12 more days till I go on vacation. lol.....
I just hope I get some decent national coverage on tv when I'm away lol. I doubt it though. probably get stuck with a Panthers preseason game. gross.</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:15 PM
Moss' agent cites the underwhelming offers thus far in free agency. As
Profootballtalk's Gregg Rosenthal predicted in March, Moss' pride won't
allow him to take a big pay cut, so he's walking away at age 34. Moss
will of course reserve the right to reverse his decision if an ardent
suitor comes calling. If this is the end, Moss walks away eighth in
career receptions (954), fifth in receiving yards (14,858), and second
only to Jerry Rice in receiving TDs (153). Arguably the most dangerous
deep threat in NFL history, Moss will be voted into the Hall of Fame
after much debate.

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 01:16 PM
BTW.

Morehead I'm interested in what you think about the Debt Ceiling deal that's going to be passed in the Senate and the House today/tomorrow.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:17 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna rbeak my balls and say im selling him but im really not, its almost common sense at that point

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:18 PM
Moss' agent cites the underwhelming offers thus far in free agency. As
Profootballtalk's Gregg Rosenthal predicted in March, Moss' pride won't
allow him to take a big pay cut, so he's walking away at age 34. Moss
will of course reserve the right to reverse his decision if an ardent
suitor comes calling. If this is the end, Moss walks away eighth in
career receptions (954), fifth in receiving yards (14,858), and second
only to Jerry Rice in receiving TDs (153). Arguably the most dangerous
deep threat in NFL history, Moss will be voted into the Hall of Fame
after much debate.

he'll be back

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 01:20 PM
RV reporting that Snelling is in the Giants building at the moment

AB better get back

I ain't killing Reese at all cuz his hands are tied this offseason - but getting Bradshaw back is a must



I would really be happy if we got Snelling.

I am not sure why you think we have to get Bradshaw back....I would like to see him back to but I guess I just don't think we would be losing alot without him.


because i saw DJ Ware at practice saturday and i remembered why he doesn't get touches for us
That image of DJ at practice Sat is why you feel so stressed over our scat back needs, huh?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:22 PM
because its not a scat back, its a work horse we're losing

If we have to put Jacobs in that role, i don tthink our offense will be as successful. Jacobs being saved for the end of the year and #2 back will extend his life for us and he'll stay more healthy.

Ware is just not that good.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:22 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 01:22 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna rbeak my balls and say im selling him but im really not, its almost common sense at that point


You don't give up the #1 pick without some sort of compensation...just because "I" don't particularly like the position doesn't mean it's not more valuable.

worth doesn't change because of my opinion...a good example of that.

say I had two gold bars and you had 1 gold bar...but we had to walk somewhere....you are saying...here let me take one of those gold bars off your hands so you can walk easier...

yeah that's true but it's not a good deal...I'm not gonna just GIVE you the first pick for the 6th because you want it and it may work better for me....I still need compensation for the value.

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 01:23 PM
hey guys..........guess what?





12 more days until preseason suuuuuuckaaas
</p>


also 12 more days till I go on vacation. lol.....
I just hope I get some decent national coverage on tv when I'm away lol. I doubt it though. probably get stuck with a Panthers preseason game. gross.</p>lol well youre in luck cause thats the first game.


i like how we get the eagles early this year.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:24 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna rbeak my balls and say im selling him but im really not, its almost common sense at that point


You don't give up the #1 pick without some sort of compensation...just because "I" don't particularly like the position doesn't mean it's not more valuable.

worth doesn't change because of my opinion...a good example of that.

say I had two gold bars and you had 1 gold bar...but we had to walk somewhere....you are saying...here let me take one of those gold bars off your hands so you can walk easier...

yeah that's true but it's not a good deal...I'm not gonna just GIVE you the first pick for the 6th because you want it and it may work better for me....I still need compensation for the value.


well i dunno what u expect but the 1st and 24th pick is equal to the 6th and 19th pick... its fine, i dont care. If i get stuck i'll get stuck at the spot. You going QB will just push somebody else to me and i'll feel fine about it

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:25 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna break my balls and say<font color="#000000"> im selling him</font> but im really not, its almost common sense at that point

Of course you are. lol That is what anyone would do when they want something. I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:28 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna break my balls and say<font color="#000000"> im selling him</font> but im really not, its almost common sense at that point

Of course you are. lol That is what anyone would do when they want something. I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.



ohhhh okay

na my point is if ur gonna waste the 1st overall on a QB, u might as well trae out of it if ur hellbent on going QB in the first because thats going to hurt ur value in 2nd round picks...

U might as well get the same pick u'd get in the first at 6th overall and move up and get better value in the second

thats maximizing value.

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 01:28 PM
What are your position predictions for first three draft pics in our draft?

go to www.fantasyfootballcalculator.com.

Set up an account and look at the mock drafts that were done in your 3 spot 12 team leagues and then do some drafting of your own. That is the best site for mock drafts in my opinion.


u dont even have to sign up, im not. I just use it

I know, but if you sign up it saves all your mocks on a draftboard. Evaluates them, gives you projected points and you can see what drafts worked and which ones didn't.


yea but its based off their scoring

and if u'll notice their rankings of players, i relaly owuldn't care what their opinions are lol

I totally agree, I don't ever look but for LT it could be helpful.
Agreed, I will be taking in a little of everything this year, then trying to formulate a plan of attack. So, potentially, in a QB score driven league-Adrian Peterson should be on the board by my 3rd pic? .... Brain control? There ain't no such thing as brain control. There's mind control-brain control is ridiculous.

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:29 PM
I like how we get the eagles early this year.

Me to, and not only do we get them early. It's their first home game. We will spoil the party!!!

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 01:30 PM
because its not a scat back, its a work horse we're losing

If we have to put Jacobs in that role, i don tthink our offense will be as successful. Jacobs being saved for the end of the year and #2 back will extend his life for us and he'll stay more healthy.

Ware is just not that good.
BJ can't do that role.

ny06
08-01-2011, 01:31 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</P>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</P>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </P>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </P>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:31 PM
because its not a scat back, its a work horse we're losing

If we have to put Jacobs in that role, i don tthink our offense will be as successful. Jacobs being saved for the end of the year and #2 back will extend his life for us and he'll stay more healthy.

Ware is just not that good.
BJ can't do that role.


i mean he could to a degree, but he'll just be injured

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:32 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</p>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</p>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </p>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </p>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </p>

or if Osi can't get teh deal he wants

It has to be a perfect storm. I highly doubt it happens and i agree wtih Tuck. I'd bet hes a Giant this year

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 01:32 PM
I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.

lol why am I always so difficult to understand in Text.

No...Lando, I'm actually quite worried that 6 Elite QB's WILL be gone in the first 23 picks...and since the scoring system in this league makes your #1 QB the most important position on your team by far it's hard to pick at the #1 spot....

I would LOVE and AP/CJ or AF...on my team...obviously....but I'm afraid if I pick them I end up with a QB like Bradford or Cassel as my #1 QB...which would SUCK considering the QB position will score the most point of any position on any team BY far with passing TD's being 6 pts.

Matt's trying to tell me that the #1 and #24 picks are equal to the #6 and #19 picks....

which is completely and utter bullcrap....he's saying it because he wants that #1 pick...

I don't like the position...but I know the value of it...if he wants it I'm willing to trade...he can take my #1 pick...but he's gonna have to give me his #6 pick AND his 3rd or 4th round pick as well if he wants it.

ny06
08-01-2011, 01:36 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</P>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</P>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </P>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </P>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </P>




or if Osi can't get teh deal he wants

It has to be a perfect storm. I highly doubt it happens and i agree wtih Tuck. I'd bet hes a Giant this year
</P>


If Osi is a Giant and does not get his contract restructured he could be an issue in the locker-room. </P>


I would love for Osi to shutup and stay in blue, but if he feels Reese lied to him and he is getting under paid then trade him. </P>


But don't trade him for the sake of trading him, if we can get equal or more value in return. Do it...</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:37 PM
I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.

lol why am I always so difficult to understand in Text.

No...Lando, I'm actually quite worried that 6 Elite QB's WILL be gone in the first 23 picks...and since the scoring system in this league makes your #1 QB the most important position on your team by far it's hard to pick at the #1 spot....

I would LOVE and AP/CJ or AF...on my team...obviously....but I'm afraid if I pick them I end up with a QB like Bradford or Cassel as my #1 QB...which would SUCK considering the QB position will score the most point of any position on any team BY far with passing TD's being 6 pts.

Matt's trying to tell me that the #1 and #24 picks are equal to the #6 and #19 picks....

which is completely and utter bullcrap....he's saying it because he wants that #1 pick...

I don't like the position...but I know the value of it...if he wants it I'm willing to trade...he can take my #1 pick...but he's gonna have to give me his #6 pick AND his 3rd or 4th round pick as well if he wants it.


well we just disagree then

especially in your case its even more true because ur valuing a QB at #1 that u can get at #6.

Theres def better value in the mid 2nd round compared to the end of 2nd round too. It is a push

But its fine, IDC. I just want out of the 6 because it doesn't go good with my stratagy. I would even trade at the last few picks of the draft for the 6. I just won't be abl;e to do what i want to do

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:37 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna break my balls and say<font color="#000000"> im selling him</font> but im really not, its almost common sense at that point

Of course you are. lol That is what anyone would do when they want something. I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.



ohhhh okay

na my point is if ur gonna waste the 1st overall on a QB, u might as well trae out of it if ur hellbent on going QB in the first because thats going to hurt ur value in 2nd round picks...

U might as well get the same pick u'd get in the first at 6th overall and move up and get better value in the second

thats maximizing value.

You are right, but I don't see Daven taking a QB #1. He will go Foster or AP. He is old school...

Also in his defense, who is to say he trades you to get his guy and someone takes him before his pick.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:38 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</p>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</p>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </p>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </p>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </p>




or if Osi can't get teh deal he wants

It has to be a perfect storm. I highly doubt it happens and i agree wtih Tuck. I'd bet hes a Giant this year
</p>


If Osi is a Giant and does not get his contract restructured he could be an issue in the locker-room. </p>


I would love for Osi to shutup and stay in blue, but if he feels Reese lied to him and he is getting under piad then trade him. </p>


But don't trade him for the sake of trading him, if we can get equal or more value in return. Do it...</p>

no he wont.

Hes too close to those guys. U think if he starts that **** this late in his career he'll get the big bucks?

No way. We'd trade him next year for a 2nd rounder just to get something fo rhim

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 01:38 PM
I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.

lol why am I always so difficult to understand in Text.

No...Lando, I'm actually quite worried that 6 Elite QB's WILL be gone in the first 23 picks...and since the scoring system in this league makes your #1 QB the most important position on your team by far it's hard to pick at the #1 spot....

I would LOVE and AP/CJ or AF...on my team...obviously....but I'm afraid if I pick them I end up with a QB like Bradford or Cassel as my #1 QB...which would SUCK considering the QB position will score the most point of any position on any team BY far with passing TD's being 6 pts.

Matt's trying to tell me that the #1 and #24 picks are equal to the #6 and #19 picks....

which is completely and utter bullcrap....he's saying it because he wants that #1 pick...

I don't like the position...but I know the value of it...if he wants it I'm willing to trade...he can take my #1 pick...but he's gonna have to give me his #6 pick AND his 3rd or 4th round pick as well if he wants it.
quite the conundrum-because if you faulter on pic 1, you have 23 spots till you go again. So you need to save a position with alot of depth for your #2 selection. This is actually pretty cool, just how important it makes your first pic. Kinda like-Live by it, or die by it.

ny06
08-01-2011, 01:40 PM
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg
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bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:40 PM
<div class="report">


Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride singled out Victor Cruz when asked about the third receiver job Monday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Gilbride also called Steve Smith one of the best
inside receivers in football, but he remains unsigned and unlikely to
play in September. After a dominant exhibition performance, Cruz had
moved ahead of Ramses Barden on the depth chart by last September. Still
an intriguing Dynasty stash, Cruz is a good bet to hold off Barden and
rookie Jerrel Jernigan to enter the season.
</div>

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 01:40 PM
You are right, but I don't see Daven taking a QB #1. He will go Foster or AP. He is old school..

Old School Passing TD's are worth 4pts not 6.

also Old School RB's were work horse's now pretty much every one of them splits time...

Old School only works if they are playing the same way...they aren't anymore.

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 01:40 PM
You are right, but I don't see Daven taking a QB #1. He will go Foster or AP. He is old school..

Old School Passing TD's are worth 4pts not 6.

also Old School RB's were work horse's now pretty much every one of them splits time...

Old School only works if they are playing the same way...they aren't anymore.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:40 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna break my balls and say<font color="#000000"> im selling him</font> but im really not, its almost common sense at that point

Of course you are. lol That is what anyone would do when they want something. I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.



ohhhh okay

na my point is if ur gonna waste the 1st overall on a QB, u might as well trae out of it if ur hellbent on going QB in the first because thats going to hurt ur value in 2nd round picks...

U might as well get the same pick u'd get in the first at 6th overall and move up and get better value in the second

thats maximizing value.

You are right, but I don't see Daven taking a QB #1. He will go Foster or AP. He is old school...

Also in his defense, who is to say he trades you to get his guy and someone takes him before his pick.


na I can see him doing it. He sees alot of value in QBs - which i do agree with. But I just couldn't do it #1 overall. If he feels thats the way to go then he should look to trade down and pick up a better pick in the 2nd... but he doesn't see it that way so whatever lol

The offer will be there but i hate the mid spot of the draft. I would rather be in the beginning or end this year

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:41 PM
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg
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NOW if we had Snelling - it may be a great move

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:43 PM
I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.

lol why am I always so difficult to understand in Text.

No...Lando, I'm actually quite worried that 6 Elite QB's WILL be gone in the first 23 picks...and since the scoring system in this league makes your #1 QB the most important position on your team by far it's hard to pick at the #1 spot....

I would LOVE and AP/CJ or AF...on my team...obviously....but I'm afraid if I pick them I end up with a QB like Bradford or Cassel as my #1 QB...which would SUCK considering the QB position will score the most point of any position on any team BY far with passing TD's being 6 pts.

<font color="#0000FF">Matt's trying to tell me that the #1 and #24 picks are equal to the #6 and #19 picks....

which is completely and utter bullcrap....he's saying it because he wants that #1 pick...</font>

I don't like the position...but I know the value of it...if he wants it I'm willing to trade...he can take my #1 pick...but he's gonna have to give me his #6 pick AND his 3rd or 4th round pick as well if he wants it.

Totally agree. But in the context of grabbing a QB he is probably right. Not in value. There is a reason why everyone wants the #1 pick!

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 01:43 PM
quite the conundrum-because if you faulter on pic 1, you have 23 spots till you go again. So you need to save a position with alot of depth for your #2 selection. This is actually pretty cool, just how important it makes your first pic. Kinda like-Live by it, or die by it.


RB's used to be the no brainer first round pick for the top 6-10 picks every year for YEARS....

MMB still thinks that that method is the method to live by...I'm not fully against it, but the way RB's are splitting time nowadays...combined with the increased pts given to QB's in this league makes me pause on the normal drafting strategy.

It didn't used to be a difficult choice... the #1 pick used to always be whatever the best RB was...many still think it is (and I'm not sure I don't) but in this league with this scoring it's arguable.

ny06
08-01-2011, 01:44 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</P>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</P>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </P>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </P>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </P>




or if Osi can't get teh deal he wants

It has to be a perfect storm. I highly doubt it happens and i agree wtih Tuck. I'd bet hes a Giant this year
</P>


If Osi is a Giant and does not get his contract restructured he could be an issue in the locker-room. </P>


I would love for Osi to shutup and stay in blue, but if he feels Reese lied to him and he is getting under piad then trade him. </P>


But don't trade him for the sake of trading him, if we can get equal or more value in return. Do it...</P>




no he wont.

Hes too close to those guys. U think if he starts that **** this late in his career he'll get the big bucks?

No way. We'd trade him next year for a 2nd rounder just to get something fo rhim
</P>


When it comes to contract negotations teammates stayout ofit. </P>


</P>

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 01:46 PM
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg
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NOW if we had Snelling - it may be a great move
</P>


I don't think the Giants would see that as necessary at all. We have the same RBs as last year, plus Ware and Scott. Unless they used him only at FB, I bet they are set now is Bradshaw signs the dotted line.</P>

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 01:46 PM
But in the context of grabbing a QB he is probably right. Not in value. There is a reason why everyone wants the #1 pick!


Well, Yeah I agree...If I do end up going QB first....the 6th and 19th would be better "for me" that said the #1 pick is the #1 pick...and it's got a larger value then the #6 so regardless of the fact that #6/19 might be better for me I still can't "give" it away...whether it's better for me or not is completely irreverent to the trade...the trade must be based upon objective value.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:47 PM
I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.

lol why am I always so difficult to understand in Text.

No...Lando, I'm actually quite worried that 6 Elite QB's WILL be gone in the first 23 picks...and since the scoring system in this league makes your #1 QB the most important position on your team by far it's hard to pick at the #1 spot....

I would LOVE and AP/CJ or AF...on my team...obviously....but I'm afraid if I pick them I end up with a QB like Bradford or Cassel as my #1 QB...which would SUCK considering the QB position will score the most point of any position on any team BY far with passing TD's being 6 pts.

<font color="#0000ff">Matt's trying to tell me that the #1 and #24 picks are equal to the #6 and #19 picks....

which is completely and utter bullcrap....he's saying it because he wants that #1 pick...</font>

I don't like the position...but I know the value of it...if he wants it I'm willing to trade...he can take my #1 pick...but he's gonna have to give me his #6 pick AND his 3rd or 4th round pick as well if he wants it.

Totally agree. But in the context of grabbing a QB he is probably right. Not in value. There is a reason why everyone wants the #1 pick!


i think u have the first wave of talent in the draft and then the second wave of talent as well... i thnk u hit the second wave of talent with the 19th pick, i dont think u hit it with the 24th picks.... just my personal opinio nas well. Thats a fantasy football decision everybody has to make it

but if hes hellt bent on going Rodgers #1, then im def right he should try and get the better pick in the 2nd

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 01:47 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna break my balls and say<font color="#000000"> im selling him</font> but im really not, its almost common sense at that point

Of course you are. lol That is what anyone would do when they want something. I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.



ohhhh okay

na my point is if ur gonna waste the 1st overall on a QB, u might as well trae out of it if ur hellbent on going QB in the first because thats going to hurt ur value in 2nd round picks...

U might as well get the same pick u'd get in the first at 6th overall and move up and get better value in the second

thats maximizing value.

You are right, but I don't see Daven taking a QB #1. He will go Foster or AP. He is old school...

Also in his defense, who is to say he trades you to get his guy and someone takes him before his pick.


na I can see him doing it. He sees alot of value in QBs - which i do agree with. But I just couldn't do it #1 overall. If he feels thats the way to go then he should look to trade down and pick up a better pick in the 2nd... but he doesn't see it that way so whatever lol

The offer will be there but i hate the mid spot of the draft. I would rather be in the beginning or end this year
....and the current scoring sys is not going to change right?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:49 PM
quite the conundrum-because if you faulter on pic 1, you have 23 spots till you go again. So you need to save a position with alot of depth for your #2 selection. This is actually pretty cool, just how important it makes your first pic. Kinda like-Live by it, or die by it.


RB's used to be the no brainer first round pick for the top 6-10 picks every year for YEARS....

MMB still thinks that that method is the method to live by...I'm not fully against it, but the way RB's are splitting time nowadays...combined with the increased pts given to QB's in this league makes me pause on the normal drafting strategy.

It didn't used to be a difficult choice... the #1 pick used to always be whatever the best RB was...many still think it is (and I'm not sure I don't) but in this league with this scoring it's arguable.


no i think in flex leagues it definitly is

and i think the top 4 with the way the league is this year should br RBs as well... regardless of what u think the draft should go, it will go typically the way its going to go and you would be losing value

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:50 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</p>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</p>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </p>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </p>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </p>




or if Osi can't get teh deal he wants

It has to be a perfect storm. I highly doubt it happens and i agree wtih Tuck. I'd bet hes a Giant this year
</p>


If Osi is a Giant and does not get his contract restructured he could be an issue in the locker-room. </p>


I would love for Osi to shutup and stay in blue, but if he feels Reese lied to him and he is getting under piad then trade him. </p>


But don't trade him for the sake of trading him, if we can get equal or more value in return. Do it...</p>




no he wont.

Hes too close to those guys. U think if he starts that **** this late in his career he'll get the big bucks?

No way. We'd trade him next year for a 2nd rounder just to get something fo rhim
</p>


When it comes to contract negotations teammates stayout ofit. </p>


</p>

contract negotiations and starting **** in the locker room midseason are two different things...

and if u've read Tuck's comments today hes kind of on the borderline with some surprising comments in reference to Osi's status

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 01:50 PM
Free agent DE/OLB Jason Taylor announced on his Facebook page Tuesday that he's signing with the Dolphins.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:51 PM
damn Jason Taylor is suppose to resign with Miami

i would really like him if we lose Osi

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Yeah but ther are about 6 to 8 QB's who are close in potential productivity.</p>


Can you say there's a huge difference between Vick and Rodgers or Rivers?</p>

But the problem in my spot is yeah there are 6-8 top QB's, and with Scoring the way it is (6pts for passing TDs) it's VERY important you have one.

but my pics are 1 then 24

It's REALLY hard to turn down a Chris Johnson or AP or Adrian Foster....but knowing that having a top flight QB is more important then a top flight RB in this league the way the scoring is It makes me feel like I gotta get Rodgers or Peyton...cause I know a top flight QB won't be around by 24.....

it's a tough position to be in....but 24/25 is gonna be fun.


hence why u would make sense to trade with me if ur really that hell bent on going QB #1

i know u guys are gonna break my balls and say<font color="#000000"> im selling him</font> but im really not, its almost common sense at that point

Of course you are. lol That is what anyone would do when they want something. I think what Daven is saying is he's confident that one elite QB will be there in the 3rd as he should be. 6 QB's are not going to go in the first 23 picks.



ohhhh okay

na my point is if ur gonna waste the 1st overall on a QB, u might as well trae out of it if ur hellbent on going QB in the first because thats going to hurt ur value in 2nd round picks...

U might as well get the same pick u'd get in the first at 6th overall and move up and get better value in the second

thats maximizing value.

You are right, but I don't see Daven taking a QB #1. He will go Foster or AP. He is old school...

Also in his defense, who is to say he trades you to get his guy and someone takes him before his pick.


na I can see him doing it. He sees alot of value in QBs - which i do agree with. But I just couldn't do it #1 overall. If he feels thats the way to go then he should look to trade down and pick up a better pick in the 2nd... but he doesn't see it that way so whatever lol

The offer will be there but i hate the mid spot of the draft. I would rather be in the beginning or end this year
....and the current scoring sys is not going to change right?


yea scoring system is solid

ny06
08-01-2011, 01:53 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</P>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</P>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </P>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </P>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </P>




or if Osi can't get teh deal he wants

It has to be a perfect storm. I highly doubt it happens and i agree wtih Tuck. I'd bet hes a Giant this year
</P>


If Osi is a Giant and does not get his contract restructured he could be an issue in the locker-room. </P>


I would love for Osi to shutup and stay in blue, but if he feels Reese lied to him and he is getting under piad then trade him. </P>


But don't trade him for the sake of trading him, if we can get equal or more value in return. Do it...</P>




no he wont.

Hes too close to those guys. U think if he starts that **** this late in his career he'll get the big bucks?

No way. We'd trade him next year for a 2nd rounder just to get something fo rhim
</P>


When it comes to contract negotations teammates stayout ofit. </P>


</P>




contract negotiations and starting **** in the locker room midseason are two different things...

and if u've read Tuck's comments today hes kind of on the borderline with some surprising comments in reference to Osi's status
</P>


What are Tuck's comments regarding Osi?</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:54 PM
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg
35 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
</p><hr align="left" size="1" width="25%">


NOW if we had Snelling - it may be a great move


</p>


I don't think the Giants would see that as necessary at all. We have the same RBs as last year, plus Ware and Scott. Unless they used him only at FB, I bet they are set now is Bradshaw signs the dotted line.</p>

it is doubtful but Snelling really is a FB that just can handle the rock

We did cut Hedge**** and his running abilities may be a good replacement for Jacobs - who may be in his last year as a Giant

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:55 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</p>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</p>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </p>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </p>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </p>




or if Osi can't get teh deal he wants

It has to be a perfect storm. I highly doubt it happens and i agree wtih Tuck. I'd bet hes a Giant this year
</p>


If Osi is a Giant and does not get his contract restructured he could be an issue in the locker-room. </p>


I would love for Osi to shutup and stay in blue, but if he feels Reese lied to him and he is getting under piad then trade him. </p>


But don't trade him for the sake of trading him, if we can get equal or more value in return. Do it...</p>




no he wont.

Hes too close to those guys. U think if he starts that **** this late in his career he'll get the big bucks?

No way. We'd trade him next year for a 2nd rounder just to get something fo rhim
</p>


When it comes to contract negotations teammates stayout ofit. </p>


</p>




contract negotiations and starting **** in the locker room midseason are two different things...

and if u've read Tuck's comments today hes kind of on the borderline with some surprising comments in reference to Osi's status
</p>


What are Tuck's comments regarding Osi?</p>
well the one that stuck out as weird was when he said he thinks Osi sitting out isn't cuz of injury but its stratagy

thats like borderline commenting that Osi could possibly take the wrong way

and the fact that he says he thinks ultimately Osi will be a Giant

i dunno - it seems like its too much gab out of Tuck. I dont mind it though

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 01:56 PM
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg
35 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
</p><hr width="25%" align="left" size="1">


NOW if we had Snelling - it may be a great move


</p>


I don't think the Giants would see that as necessary at all. We have the same RBs as last year, plus Ware and Scott. Unless they used him only at FB, I bet they are set now is Bradshaw signs the dotted line.</p>arent you excited?!?!?!!?!?!?!

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:57 PM
dude im telling you... I had a bad list of FA RB a couple of weeks ago when i said we could live without Bradshaw...

but im telling you we have to roll the dice that the fumling will cut down

we nee dhis production

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 01:58 PM
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg
35 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
</p><hr align="left" size="1" width="25%">


NOW if we had Snelling - it may be a great move


</p>


I don't think the Giants would see that as necessary at all. We have the same RBs as last year, plus Ware and Scott. Unless they used him only at FB, I bet they are set now is Bradshaw signs the dotted line.</p>Do we know $ terms of the deal yet?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 01:58 PM
na all we know is that its a 4 year deal

ny06
08-01-2011, 01:59 PM
Tuck says that he thinks Osi will be back
</P>


Unless Tuck is going to give Osi some of his $$$</P>


The writing is on the wall, Osi is gone. </P>


Only way he stays in Blue if no other team is willing to give what the Giants want. </P>


Osi want's more money, the Giants don't have it. </P>




or if Osi can't get teh deal he wants

It has to be a perfect storm. I highly doubt it happens and i agree wtih Tuck. I'd bet hes a Giant this year
</P>


If Osi is a Giant and does not get his contract restructured he could be an issue in the locker-room. </P>


I would love for Osi to shutup and stay in blue, but if he feels Reese lied to him and he is getting under piad then trade him. </P>


But don't trade him for the sake of trading him, if we can get equal or more value in return. Do it...</P>




no he wont.

Hes too close to those guys. U think if he starts that **** this late in his career he'll get the big bucks?

No way. We'd trade him next year for a 2nd rounder just to get something fo rhim
</P>


When it comes to contract negotations teammates stayout ofit. </P>


</P>




contract negotiations and starting **** in the locker room midseason are two different things...

and if u've read Tuck's comments today hes kind of on the borderline with some surprising comments in reference to Osi's status
</P>


What are Tuck's comments regarding Osi?</P>



well the one that stuck out as weird was when he said he thinks Osi sitting out isn't cuz of injury but its stratagy

thats like borderline commenting that Osi could possibly take the wrong way

and the fact that he says he thinks ultimately Osi will be a Giant

i dunno - it seems like its too much gab out of Tuck. I dont mind it though
</P>


If the Giants can find a way for Osi to be happy in Blue then I am all for it. </P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:01 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 02:02 PM
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg
35 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply </P>
<HR align=left width="25%" SIZE=1>


NOW if we had Snelling - it may be a great move



</P>


I don't think the Giants would see that as necessary at all. We have the same RBs as last year, plus Ware and Scott. Unless they used him only at FB, I bet they are set now is Bradshaw signs the dotted line.</P>


arent you excited?!?!?!!?!?!?!
</P>


what do you mean? lol....yea it's great news that he re-signed with us. There arent exactly a ton of RBs left to pick up right now, are there? lol
I was responding to Matt thinking we would sign Snelling. If he played fullback, fine...I just dont see the point on carrying more than 3 RBs on the active roster. Hopefully Scott and Ware throw down in practice and preseason andduke it outfor the 3rd spot. they both have something to prove.
</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:04 PM
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
BREAKING: RB Ahmad Bradshaw has agreed to terms with the Giants. #nyg
35 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply </p>
<hr align="left" size="1" width="25%">


NOW if we had Snelling - it may be a great move



</p>


I don't think the Giants would see that as necessary at all. We have the same RBs as last year, plus Ware and Scott. Unless they used him only at FB, I bet they are set now is Bradshaw signs the dotted line.</p>


arent you excited?!?!?!!?!?!?!
</p>


what do you mean? lol....yea it's great news that he re-signed with us. There arent exactly a ton of RBs left to pick up right now, are there? lol
I was responding to Matt thinking we would sign Snelling. If he played fullback, fine...I just dont see the point on carrying more than 3 RBs on the active roster. Hopefully Scott and Ware throw down in practice and preseason andduke it outfor the 3rd spot. they both have something to prove.
</p>

a fb that could run the ball and possibly replace Jacobs as our pounding back. Depends what price hes asking

Not sure Ware is going to win that battle - all jokes aside

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 02:05 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
</P>


I felt like Reese asked for a 1st rounder as a way to make Osi feel valuable lol.
I still think he'll end up a Giant this year. There's not much the Giants can do if he wants to leave, but we can't a reasonable offer. I'm totally against trading players "just because" and not getting any value in return. Regardless of what a player wants.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:09 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
</p>


I felt like Reese asked for a 1st rounder as a way to make Osi feel valuable lol.
I still think he'll end up a Giant this year. There's not much the Giants can do if he wants to leave, but we can't a reasonable offer. I'm totally against trading players "just because" and not getting any value in return. Regardless of what a player wants.</p>

na i think he asked for a 1st rounder because he'd be stupid to give him up for less

bottom line look at what Jared Allen got for when the Vikings traded for him and look at the ripoff the Eagles pulled on the Cardinals

a first rounder is what it will take. OR something equivalent

gotta do what we gotta do. If we dont' get what we want then at the end of the day he has no leverage

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 02:10 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
Jason Taylor was a possibility? Would of been sweeet

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:13 PM
well that was just supposively a rumor among the players per blondie's connection

and it would make sense. I think we do need a 4th DE whether its a guy like Osi or Taylor. Kiwi's injury we still can't consider a thing of the past and JPP is def a talent on the rise, but who knows if hes where we'll need him to be this year.

ny06
08-01-2011, 02:16 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</P>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </P>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:20 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:21 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

Thats cuz the Giants ain't paying him

they gave him the nod to go work out a trade but they want a 1st rounder

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 02:27 PM
i have to say osis highly over rated view of himself is pretty amusing

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 02:28 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 02:33 PM
i have to say osis highly over rated view of himself is pretty amusing
Very much so, agreed.

lawl
08-01-2011, 02:38 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</P>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </P>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </P>


</P>




lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
</P>


Thats because holding out just isn't a possibility anymore with the new CBA.</P>


</P>


Things change</P>

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 02:38 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
Aren't we giving him what he is asking for, the trade, but we just want to maximize what we get in return?

byron
08-01-2011, 02:38 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</P>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </P>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </P>


</P>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
its time to get him out of here...trade him for a ****ing hooker I need to take a dump...

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 02:40 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
its time to get him out of here...trade him for a ****ing hooker I need to take a dump...lol

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 02:43 PM
Thats because holding out just isn't a possibility anymore with the new CBA.</p>


</p>


Things change</p>

that's not really the issue in my opinion...the issue was the attitude switch towards Shockey by the fans on this bored when it was "thought" that he didn't want to be a giant vs the attitude towards Osi when he told us he didn't want to be a Giant.

I'm curious why everyone hated Shockey at the drop of a hate and wanted him gone immediately but the same people want Osi (and plax also btw) back no matter what.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 02:45 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</P>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </P>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </P>


</P>




lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
Aren't we giving him what he is asking for, the trade, but we just want to maximize what we get in return?
</P>


yes. and the difference is we got decent value....although we had to wait to see how badly Shockey sucked the following years lol.
The Giants are doing the right thing. Teams WILL give good picks for a piece they need.
I just find it strange how players are willing to go play for a potentially bad team, one that isnt a threat, rather than play in a place they are already comfortable, and established. oh well</P>

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 02:48 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/5607/dream-team-who

mario is becoming my favorite giant, regardless if he has the grammar of a 2nd grader.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 02:48 PM
Thats because holding out just isn't a possibility anymore with the new CBA.</P>


</P>


Things change</P>




that's not really the issue in my opinion...the issue was the attitude switch towards Shockey by the fans on this bored when it was "thought" that he didn't want to be a giant vs the attitude towards Osi when he told us he didn't want to be a Giant.

I'm curious why everyone hated Shockey at the drop of a hate and wanted him gone immediately but the same people want Osi (and plax also btw) back no matter what.
</P>


good point I guess. I was never a big fan of shockey, although I enjoyed his production early on. For the most part, I've always been an Osi supporter. I know he's obviously disgruntled now, which jades my opinion of him, but if he can somehow stay happy here, then I want to keep him till his contract expires lol. We are a much better team defensively with a great D-line, and whether he's overated or not, he's still good, and has produced.</P>

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 02:51 PM
Thats because holding out just isn't a possibility anymore with the new CBA.</p>


</p>


Things change</p>

that's not really the issue in my opinion...the issue was the attitude switch towards Shockey by the fans on this bored when it was "thought" that he didn't want to be a giant vs the attitude towards Osi when he told us he didn't want to be a Giant.

I'm curious why everyone hated Shockey at the drop of a hate and wanted him gone immediately but the same people want Osi (and plax also btw) back no matter what.
i feel the same way about osi as i did shockey. if they dont want to play here, which both have stated, take a walk.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:51 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....


check ur facts son

i was pissed we got rid of shockey for only a 2nd rounder. I just felt like if we had to get rid of him ,thats fine but get more tha a second rounder

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:52 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....


check ur facts son

i was pissed we got rid of shockey for only a 2nd rounder. I just felt like if we had to get rid of him ,thats fine but get more tha a second rounder

and the major difference is that Shockey could show up Eli... Osi has nobody to show up. He has question marks.

Osi's hold out is over money, Shockey felt disconnected from the tema and disliked his teammates

two different situations

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:53 PM
i have to say osis highly over rated view of himself is pretty amusing


we need him to SELL IT!~!!

Get us that first rounder

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:54 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
Aren't we giving him what he is asking for, the trade, but we just want to maximize what we get in return?


well in reality he does want to say, hre just wants to be paid

this is just a money move...

Shockey wasn't a money move

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:55 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>

lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
its time to get him out of here...trade him for a ****ing hooker I need to take a dump...

na thats exactly what i dont want to do. I do believe we can get a first rounder for him and we should hold out until he does...

if he plays for us and goes out and lays an egg then he will lose any shot at a big contract. 1 good year out of 4, with injury concerns and alot of *****ing

that won't get him paid

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 02:56 PM
check ur facts son

i was pissed we got rid of shockey for only a 2nd rounder. I just felt like if we had to get rid of him ,thats fine but get more tha a second rounder


ok maybe not you per say....but the VAST majority of the boards was all "addition by subtraction" crap when talking about Shockey....where is that attitude now with Osi?

lttaylor56
08-01-2011, 02:56 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>




lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
Aren't we giving him what he is asking for, the trade, but we just want to maximize what we get in return?
</p>


yes. and the difference is we got decent value....although we had to wait to see how badly Shockey sucked the following years lol.
The Giants are doing the right thing. Teams WILL give good picks for a piece they need.
I just find it strange how players are willing to go play for a potentially bad team, one that isnt a threat, rather than play in a place they are already comfortable, and established. oh well</p>I feel the same way. It would be like taking a job that pays double the amount of money, but you would hate going there everyday. Football is a little different, If I were a player-I would want to be on the team with the best chance of getting a lombardi, while still making a decent salary.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:57 PM
Thats because holding out just isn't a possibility anymore with the new CBA.</p>


</p>


Things change</p>

that's not really the issue in my opinion...the issue was the attitude switch towards Shockey by the fans on this bored when it was "thought" that he didn't want to be a giant vs the attitude towards Osi when he told us he didn't want to be a Giant.

I'm curious why everyone hated Shockey at the drop of a hate and wanted him gone immediately but the same people want Osi (and plax also btw) back no matter what.


your comparing an doffensive guy whose production to the offense goes hand in hand with his relationship to the QB, who just wasn't getting along with him and management and just wnated to leave

vs a DEFENSIVE guy whose success is really based on more of an individual performacne wanting to leave because of his contract.

If reese pays him he'll shut uip and be fine, there was no simple solution like that with Shockey...

again ur making comparison to two totally different situations

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 02:59 PM
http://boards.giants.com/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432 (/forums/2168432/ShowThread.aspx#2168432)</p>


Osi does not want to play for the Giants. </p>


They say the quote is from Osi himself. </p>


</p>




lol osi has ZERO leverage

Giants put the tag on it... hopfully they man up and follow it

Osi is too old to hold out a year and can't afford a bad year...

If Giants don't trade him hes going to have to play up


Matt...you realize how hypocritical you and everyone else is being here right?

when it was "thought" that Shocky didn't want to play here because he didn't go to a celebration he was the scourge of the earth and needed to be removed ...he was a cancer.

but when Osi flat out tells us he doesn't want to be here....We should keep him....and ... He has no leverage tag him.


really? that's some consistency....
Aren't we giving him what he is asking for, the trade, but we just want to maximize what we get in return?
</p>


yes. and the difference is we got decent value....although we had to wait to see how badly Shockey sucked the following years lol.
The Giants are doing the right thing. Teams WILL give good picks for a piece they need.
I just find it strange how players are willing to go play for a potentially bad team, one that isnt a threat, rather than play in a place they are already comfortable, and established. oh well</p>

Osi got his ring. He also has a closing window of being paid in the NFL and wants his money

whatever - i have no problem letting him go... but don't let him pretend like he'll be a huge distraction cuz he wont

if he dont' get a new contract this offseason he needs to maintian a high level of play or he WONT get that big contract by anybody. And thats all this is about.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:00 PM
Thats because holding out just isn't a possibility anymore with the new CBA.</p>


</p>


Things change</p>

that's not really the issue in my opinion...the issue was the attitude switch towards Shockey by the fans on this bored when it was "thought" that he didn't want to be a giant vs the attitude towards Osi when he told us he didn't want to be a Giant.

I'm curious why everyone hated Shockey at the drop of a hate and wanted him gone immediately but the same people want Osi (and plax also btw) back no matter what.
i feel the same way about osi as i did shockey. if they dont want to play here, which both have stated, take a walk.


yea again, just don't give him up for whatever u get. Get what u want to get out of it

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 03:01 PM
<div class="report">


The New York Daily News confirms free agent Jason
Snelling is "doubtful" to sign with the Giants after Ahmad Bradshaw was
brought back.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The Snelling dog and pony show Monday helped push
Bradshaw into signing, so it served its purpose. ESPN's John Clayton
suspects the Dolphins will turn to Ronnie Brown as Daniel Thomas'
backup, which would leave the Rams as the favorite to sign Snelling.
</div>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:02 PM
check ur facts son

i was pissed we got rid of shockey for only a 2nd rounder. I just felt like if we had to get rid of him ,thats fine but get more tha a second rounder


ok maybe not you per say....but the VAST majority of the boards was all "addition by subtraction" crap when talking about Shockey....where is that attitude now with Osi?


see the response i had to u after this

Shockey had to get along with Eli - or else that is an issue

Osi could hate Reese- but who cares. If he doesn't play up, he doesn't ever get paid the dough he wants from anybody.

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 03:03 PM
i have to say osis highly over rated view of himself is pretty amusing


we need him to SELL IT!~!!

Get us that first rounder
hm i didnt look at it that way. you may be right

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 03:03 PM
your comparing an doffensive guy whose production to the offense goes hand in hand with his relationship to the QB

Bull Crap...a TE/WR doesn't have to be "friends" with his QB...in fact they can loath each other and it won't make any difference on the field.


vs a DEFENSIVE guy whose success is really based on more of an individual performacne wanting to leave because of his contract.

Osi's performce is no more (or less) team based then Shockeys was, I don't see how the "reason" one wanted to leave vs the others matters.




again ur making comparison to two totally different situations

No you making two VERY SIMILAR situations seem different.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:03 PM
<div class="report">


The New York Daily News confirms free agent Jason
Snelling is "doubtful" to sign with the Giants after Ahmad Bradshaw was
brought back.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The Snelling dog and pony show Monday helped push
Bradshaw into signing, so it served its purpose. ESPN's John Clayton
suspects the Dolphins will turn to Ronnie Brown as Daniel Thomas'
backup, which would leave the Rams as the favorite to sign Snelling.
</div>

that would be awesome for SJax

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 03:06 PM
<font color="#0000FF">"We'll do what's best for the New York Giants,"</font> Reese added when asked
if he will rip up the defensive end's contract and give him a raise. "I
don't have any comments about Osi until we get all the issues resolved."

I really like JR