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MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:06 PM
your comparing an doffensive guy whose production to the offense goes hand in hand with his relationship to the QB

Bull Crap...a WR doesn't have to be "friends" with his QB...in fact they can loath each other and it won't make any difference on the field.


vs a DEFENSIVE guy whose success is really based on more of an individual performacne wanting to leave because of his contract.

Osi's performce is no more (or less) team based then Shockeys was, I don't see how the "reason" one wanted to leave vs the others matters.




again ur making comparison to two totally different situations

No you making two VERY SIMILAR situations seem different.


So u think a guy calling u out and flailing his arms in the air after throws that dont go to him, while complaining baout being there, and never working out in the offseason together would be a good relationship?

Riiiight

To suggest that a de ends job has as much to do with his teammates (in a 4-3 at least) as the connection between between a receiver and a QB is mad.

and again its not, ur just being daven so i'll let u goat others.. .but it is different. Shockey could be disruptive to the team by being a nut case... Osi is in no position to be a disruption...

One was a money matter the other wasn't - thats the end of the story (i noticed u left that point out in qouting my response)

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 03:15 PM
So u think a guy calling u out and flailing his arms in the air after throws that dont go to him, while complaining baout being there, and never working out in the offseason together would be a good relationship?

No, I don't think a "good relationship" translates to the field of play, it doesn't matter whether Eli likes who he's throwing to or not....the throw is going to be just as accurate either way...

ALSO it's well documented that he did not flail his arms or complain at all the entire season before he was traded....years before that? yeah...but that last season he did nothing of the sort.




To suggest that a de ends job has as much to do with his teammates (in a 4-3 at least) as the connection between between a receiver and a QB is mad.

To suggest otherwise is mad, you think the DE doesn't depend on the CB's/Safties to bump and cover well to give him time to get to the QB? do you think the DE doesn't depend on the DT's taking up two OL's at times depending on scheme, you don't think Osi's rush ever has anything to do with a blitzing LB? your crazy...DE is JUST as "team" dependent as a WR or TE....your crazy if you think otherwise.



and again its not, ur just being daven so i'll let u goat others.. .but it is different. Shockey could be disruptive to the team by being a nut case... Osi is in no position to be a disruption...

This goes back to you, I guess, thinking Eli has the Self Esteem of a nerdy High School Freshman who hasn't hit his growth spurt yet and is getting picked on by bullies.

Eli didn't give a **** about Shockeys waving hands...even when he was a rookie.




One was a money matter the other wasn't - thats the end of the story (i noticed u left that point out in qouting my response)

Because it's not the point, everyone (except you maybe? and me) was saying the same thing, "if he doesn't want to play here get rid of him" and "It's addition by subtraction"

well it seems Osi doesn't want to play here either (the reason why makes no difference) why aren't people saying the same thing about him?

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 03:18 PM
i have to say osis highly over rated view of himself is pretty amusing


we need him to SELL IT!~!!

Get us that first rounder
hm i didnt look at it that way. you may be right
</P>


lol I can see it now....
Something happens this year, and Osi will want to stay, and he ends up doing it for a small increase restructure. lol
Might happen...never know. Happens with athletes alot. Kobe Bryant is the most recent one I remember.</P>

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 03:22 PM
Osi's performce is no more (or less) team based then Shockeys was, I don't see how the "reason" one wanted to leave vs the others matters.

</P>


Disagree.
Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves, and he wasn't quiet about it either. And to be honest, I don't think Eli, or the other captains gave a **** if he was on the team or not. I really felt like that they just didn't like him at that point.

with Osi, it's just a money thing...not a teammate thing. Like someone said earlier....when it comes to a teammate's money, you keep your mouth shut cuz it's not your business at all. I don't think other Giants players are taking this to heart or anything.</P>

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 03:26 PM
Disagree.


Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</p>

Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</p>

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 03:31 PM
Disagree.



Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</P>


Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</P>


</P>


I get the impression that you don't think athletes are real people. as if only physical things effect them maybe. lol.
They are just as vulnerable to outside BS as the rest of us.</P>


well except the stupid ones....they have no idea whats going on anyway. lol</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 03:32 PM
RT @michaelstrahan (http://twitter.com/michaelstrahan): May not look like Giants are doing much which means they must have a lot of confidence in the guys they already have.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 03:35 PM
RT @michaelstrahan (http://twitter.com/michaelstrahan): May not look like Giants are doing much which means they must have a lot of confidence in the guys they already have.</P>


not that it's a bad thing....but it doesn't automatically make it a good thing either....
</P>

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 03:38 PM
I get the impression that you don't think athletes are real people. as if only physical things effect them maybe. lol.
They are just as vulnerable to outside BS as the rest of us.</p>


well except the stupid ones....they have no idea whats going on anyway. lol</p>

I get the feeling that you (and many others) think they are elementary kids in need of codling and emotional support.

these are grown men, if they can't deal with someone being "annoying" at work the need to see a psychiatrist because they aren't normal.

I have a few co-workers I deal with on a daily basis I would call annoying....they have literally no negative effect on my work.....why should it be any different in a professional sport...in the end a jobs a job and in every job you have co-workers who are annoying.....it's completely unprofessional and frankly unacceptable to allow that to effect your productivity....in fact if anyone ever had any evidence that proved for example that Eli was playing worse because he was "angry because of Shockey" I would want Eli gone immediately....luckily I don't believe that was ever the case.

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 03:44 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.

lawl
08-01-2011, 03:45 PM
With shockey it got to the point where there was no way we were keeping him or he would want to stay with us.</P>


With Osi its at the point where if we give him a contract, all is well. </P>


Theres a huge contrast in the relationships of these guys and our FO at the boiling point.</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 03:47 PM
Citing both team and league sources, Tony Softli of ESPN 101 St. Louis
reports free agent Jason Snelling "was never an option" for the Rams.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:49 PM
So u think a guy calling u out and flailing his arms in the air after throws that dont go to him, while complaining baout being there, and never working out in the offseason together would be a good relationship?

No, I don't think a "good relationship" translates to the field of play, it doesn't matter whether Eli likes who he's throwing to or not....the throw is going to be just as accurate either way...
<font color="#7fffd4">
Lol great point. Who cares if the WR and QB have a repore</font>

ALSO it's well documented that he did not flail his arms or complain at all the entire season before he was traded....years before that? yeah...but that last season he did nothing of the sort.
<font color="#7fffd4">
well documented? Really? I must of missed that article</font>






To suggest that a de ends job has as much to do with his teammates (in a 4-3 at least) as the connection between between a receiver and a QB is mad.

To suggest otherwise is mad, you think the DE doesn't depend on the CB's/Safties to bump and cover well to give him time to get to the QB? do you think the DE doesn't depend on the DT's taking up two OL's at times depending on scheme, you don't think Osi's rush ever has anything to do with a blitzing LB? your crazy...DE is JUST as "team" dependent as a WR or TE....your crazy if you think otherwise.

<font color="#7fffd4">No i think a speed rusher who is one on one on the edge's correlation to the CBs is no where near a pass and catch relationship. Speed rush being the key term, meaning hes able to get to them in the drop backs.</font>



and again its not, ur just being daven so i'll let u goat others.. .but it is different. Shockey could be disruptive to the team by being a nut case... Osi is in no position to be a disruption...

This goes back to you, I guess, thinking Eli has the Self Esteem of a nerdy High School Freshman who hasn't hit his growth spurt yet and is getting picked on by bullies.

<font color="#7fffd4">Okay great point. Well you must be right and i must be wrong even though Reese shipped shockey out for a second rounder as soon as he could and Osi will be a first rounder or nothing at this point. Regardless giving up Osi for less than u can get is stupid</font>

Eli didn't give a **** about Shockeys waving hands...even when he was a rookie.

<font color="#7fffd4">True. Im sure he loved it</font>




One was a money matter the other wasn't - thats the end of the story (i noticed u left that point out in qouting my response)

Because it's not the point, everyone (except you maybe? and me) was saying the same thing, "if he doesn't want to play here get rid of him" and "It's addition by subtraction"

well it seems Osi doesn't want to play here either (the reason why makes no difference) why aren't people saying the same thing about him?

<font color="#7fffd4">Players asking to be traded for different reasons, actually is a different situation. I would thing the word DIFFERENT would of tipped you off by that.</font>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 03:49 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.
http://bostinnovation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/shhh1.jpg

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:51 PM
Disagree.


Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</p>

Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</p>

stop compaing working at a bank the idea of team unity in professional sports with media in ur face every 5 minutes

U really try to simplifiy things to where u try to make them seem similiar, but its not

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:51 PM
RT @michaelstrahan (http://twitter.com/michaelstrahan): May not look like Giants are doing much which means they must have a lot of confidence in the guys they already have.</p>


not that it's a bad thing....but it doesn't automatically make it a good thing either....
</p>

haha strahan was getting **** on from all directions after that one

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 03:51 PM
So u think a guy calling u out and flailing his arms in the air after throws that dont go to him, while complaining baout being there, and never working out in the offseason together would be a good relationship?

No, I don't think a "good relationship" translates to the field of play, it doesn't matter whether Eli likes who he's throwing to or not....the throw is going to be just as accurate either way...
<font color="#7fffd4">
Lol great point. Who cares if the WR and QB have a repore</font>

ALSO it's well documented that he did not flail his arms or complain at all the entire season before he was traded....years before that? yeah...but that last season he did nothing of the sort.
<font color="#7fffd4">
well documented? Really? I must of missed that article</font>






To suggest that a de ends job has as much to do with his teammates (in a 4-3 at least) as the connection between between a receiver and a QB is mad.

To suggest otherwise is mad, you think the DE doesn't depend on the CB's/Safties to bump and cover well to give him time to get to the QB? do you think the DE doesn't depend on the DT's taking up two OL's at times depending on scheme, you don't think Osi's rush ever has anything to do with a blitzing LB? your crazy...DE is JUST as "team" dependent as a WR or TE....your crazy if you think otherwise.

<font color="#7fffd4">No i think a speed rusher who is one on one on the edge's correlation to the CBs is no where near a pass and catch relationship. Speed rush being the key term, meaning hes able to get to them in the drop backs.</font>



and again its not, ur just being daven so i'll let u goat others.. .but it is different. Shockey could be disruptive to the team by being a nut case... Osi is in no position to be a disruption...

This goes back to you, I guess, thinking Eli has the Self Esteem of a nerdy High School Freshman who hasn't hit his growth spurt yet and is getting picked on by bullies.

<font color="#7fffd4">Okay great point. Well you must be right and i must be wrong even though Reese shipped shockey out for a second rounder as soon as he could and Osi will be a first rounder or nothing at this point. Regardless giving up Osi for less than u can get is stupid</font>

Eli didn't give a **** about Shockeys waving hands...even when he was a rookie.

<font color="#7fffd4">True. Im sure he loved it</font>




One was a money matter the other wasn't - thats the end of the story (i noticed u left that point out in qouting my response)

Because it's not the point, everyone (except you maybe? and me) was saying the same thing, "if he doesn't want to play here get rid of him" and "It's addition by subtraction"

well it seems Osi doesn't want to play here either (the reason why makes no difference) why aren't people saying the same thing about him?

<font color="#7fffd4">Players asking to be traded for different reasons, actually is a different situation. I would thing the word DIFFERENT would of tipped you off by that.</font>


OK, No Matt...you win, I'm not trying to read that color text.

lawl
08-01-2011, 03:52 PM
matt, do you really think anyone can read that bright blue font?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:53 PM
I get the impression that you don't think athletes are real people. as if only physical things effect them maybe. lol.
They are just as vulnerable to outside BS as the rest of us.</p>


well except the stupid ones....they have no idea whats going on anyway. lol</p>

I get the feeling that you (and many others) think they are elementary kids in need of codling and emotional support.

these are grown men, if they can't deal with someone being "annoying" at work the need to see a psychiatrist because they aren't normal.

I have a few co-workers I deal with on a daily basis I would call annoying....they have literally no negative effect on my work.....why should it be any different in a professional sport...in the end a jobs a job and in every job you have co-workers who are annoying.....it's completely unprofessional and frankly unacceptable to allow that to effect your productivity....in fact if anyone ever had any evidence that proved for example that Eli was playing worse because he was "angry because of Shockey" I would want Eli gone immediately....luckily I don't believe that was ever the case.


no, but they are prima donnas. ANd most of them aren't grown men mentally maybe physicall, especially in the maturity aspect of things.

And annoying is beyond what shockey was. Theres the classic downplay

Stupidest thing to do in the world: compare regular jobs to being a professional athlete

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:53 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.

well first pick overall i think u mean

i def see some QBs going first round and it being worth it

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 03:54 PM
Disagree.


Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</p>

Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</p>

stop compaing working at a bank the idea of team unity in professional sports with media in ur face every 5 minutes

U really try to simplifiy things to where u try to make them seem similiar, but its not


It is, you are over complicating things, these guys are just doing their jobs, they do not need "team unity" anymore then your QC department does....

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:54 PM
Citing both team and league sources, Tony Softli of ESPN 101 St. Louis
reports free agent Jason Snelling "was never an option" for the Rams.

poor guy lol

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 03:55 PM
matt, do you really think anyone can read that bright blue font?
Honestly right...

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:55 PM
matt, do you really think anyone can read that bright blue font?

lol i did it to piss daven off lol

lawl
08-01-2011, 03:56 PM
Im sorry but Daven's right.</P>


Do you really think in the3 seconds that Eli has to get rid of the ball before he gets hit that he's worrying how much a guy likes him before throwing the ball? Of course not.</P>


He's reading his keys and then <FONT size=5><U>trying</U></FONT> to make the proper throw. His thought process doesnt consist of "Oh boy that Shockey guy sure is mean let me throw it to him"...and if it did, shame on Eli.</P>

byron
08-01-2011, 03:56 PM
So u think a guy calling u out and flailing his arms in the air after throws that dont go to him, while complaining baout being there, and never working out in the offseason together would be a good relationship?

No, I don't think a "good relationship" translates to the field of play, it doesn't matter whether Eli likes who he's throwing to or not....the throw is going to be just as accurate either way...
<FONT color=#7fffd4>
Lol great point. Who cares if the WR and QB have a repore</FONT>

ALSO it's well documented that he did not flail his arms or complain at all the entire season before he was traded....years before that? yeah...but that last season he did nothing of the sort.
<FONT color=#7fffd4>
well documented? Really? I must of missed that article</FONT>






To suggest that a de ends job has as much to do with his teammates (in a 4-3 at least) as the connection between between a receiver and a QB is mad.

To suggest otherwise is mad, you think the DE doesn't depend on the CB's/Safties to bump and cover well to give him time to get to the QB? do you think the DE doesn't depend on the DT's taking up two OL's at times depending on scheme, you don't think Osi's rush ever has anything to do with a blitzing LB? your crazy...DE is JUST as "team" dependent as a WR or TE....your crazy if you think otherwise.

<FONT color=#7fffd4>No i think a speed rusher who is one on one on the edge's correlation to the CBs is no where near a pass and catch relationship. Speed rush being the key term, meaning hes able to get to them in the drop backs.</FONT>



and again its not, ur just being daven so i'll let u goat others.. .but it is different. Shockey could be disruptive to the team by being a nut case... Osi is in no position to be a disruption...

This goes back to you, I guess, thinking Eli has the Self Esteem of a nerdy High School Freshman who hasn't hit his growth spurt yet and is getting picked on by bullies.

<FONT color=#7fffd4>Okay great point. Well you must be right and i must be wrong even though Reese shipped shockey out for a second rounder as soon as he could and Osi will be a first rounder or nothing at this point. Regardless giving up Osi for less than u can get is stupid</FONT>

Eli didn't give a **** about Shockeys waving hands...even when he was a rookie.

<FONT color=#7fffd4>True. Im sure he loved it</FONT>



One was a money matter the other wasn't - thats the end of the story (i noticed u left that point out in qouting my response)

Because it's not the point, everyone (except you maybe? and me) was saying the same thing, "if he doesn't want to play here get rid of him" and "It's addition by subtraction"

well it seems Osi doesn't want to play here either (the reason why makes no difference) why aren't people saying the same thing about him?

<FONT color=#7fffd4>Players asking to be traded for different reasons, actually is a different situation. I would thing the word DIFFERENT would of tipped you off by that.</FONT>
arrrh.. What!?!

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 03:56 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.

well first pick overall i think u mean

i def see some QBs going first round and it being worth it

Does he have a different first pick Matt?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:57 PM
Disagree.


Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</p>

Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</p>

stop compaing working at a bank the idea of team unity in professional sports with media in ur face every 5 minutes

U really try to simplifiy things to where u try to make them seem similiar, but its not


It is, you are over complicating things, these guys are just doing their jobs, they do not need "team unity" anymore then your QC department does....




for u to say there is no difference in reasons for somebody wanting to be traded means u've already lost this argument

good day sir

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:58 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.

well first pick overall i think u mean

i def see some QBs going first round and it being worth it

Does he have a different first pick Matt?


ahh read it wrong, thought he said "your first pick"

jsut saying I could see Vick going as early as 5

lawl
08-01-2011, 03:59 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.

well first pick overall i think u mean

i def see some QBs going first round and it being worth it

Does he have a different first pick Matt?


ahh read it wrong, thought he said "your first pick"

jsut saying I could see Vick going as early as 5
</P>


I pick 5th.</P>


Your foresight is not so good</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 03:59 PM
Im sorry but Daven's right.</p>


Do you really think in the3 seconds that Eli has to get rid of the ball before he gets hit that he's worrying how much a guy likes him before throwing the ball? Of course not.</p>


He's reading his keys and then <font size="5"><u>trying</u></font> to make the proper throw. His thought process doesnt consist of "Oh boy that Shockey guy sure is mean let me throw it to him"...and if it did, shame on Eli.</p>

its your general relationship with ur receivers..

sorry but the truth of the matter is u typically have a better connection with guys u work with....

Its half mental. I know u guys swear these guys are iron clad machines- but they arne't they are human. No matter how generic they can be to say the right things in qoutes for the paper

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 04:00 PM
New York Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants)


It's been a bumpy start to free agency. The Giants had to cut starting offensive linemen Rich Seubert (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2885) and Shaun O'Hara (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2410) to get under the cap. They haven't yet locked up running back Ahmad Bradshaw (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10693), tight end Kevin Boss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10596) or wide receiver Steve Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10495). Defensive end Osi Umenyiora (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4514) wants to be traded. The Giants still have time to pull things together, but it was a tough few days.

John Clayton needs to update his stuff. lol

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:00 PM
But I guess u guys are right at the end of the day, i mean TO leaving Philly as because he sucked. Had nothing to do wtih the QB-WR relationship

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:01 PM
Disagree.


Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</p>

Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</p>

stop compaing working at a bank the idea of team unity in professional sports with media in ur face every 5 minutes

U really try to simplifiy things to where u try to make them seem similiar, but its not


It is, you are over complicating things, these guys are just doing their jobs, they do not need "team unity" anymore then your QC department does....




for u to say there is no difference in reasons for somebody wanting to be traded means u've already lost this argument

good day sir


I don't agree with that, but my question isn't about whats right whats wrong...it's about the reaction of these boards.

the moment it was suggested that Shockey "didn't want to play for the giants" people went ape-****....

"if he doesn't want to play for us get rid of him" was a very common statement.
"Addition by Subtraction" was another.

the attitude I got from the boards was...Anyone who doesn't "WANT" to be a NYG doesn't belong here.

well Osi obviously isn't interested in being a NYG, if he gets the contract he'll stay...because it makes sense for him...monetarily, but he has no affection towards the "giants" as a team (and I would argue it's rare nowadays to find anyone so attached to their team that they are not willing to accept more money from another team)

But seeing as that's the case...where is all the outrage towards Osi....

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:02 PM
Im sorry but Daven's right.</P>


Do you really think in the3 seconds that Eli has to get rid of the ball before he gets hit that he's worrying how much a guy likes him before throwing the ball? Of course not.</P>


He's reading his keys and then <FONT size=5><U>trying</U></FONT> to make the proper throw. His thought process doesnt consist of "Oh boy that Shockey guy sure is mean let me throw it to him"...and if it did, shame on Eli.</P>




its your general relationship with ur receivers..

sorry but the truth of the matter is u typically have a better connection with guys u work with....

Its half mental. I know u guys swear these guys are iron clad machines- but they arne't they are human. No matter how generic they can be to say the right things in qoutes for the paper
</P>


</P>


Theres a difference in being on the wrong page because you didnt practice 1on1 with a guy enough, but to say Shockey's bullying was an underlying cause of Eli's struggles, then Eli is a little *****.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:04 PM
Disagree.


Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</p>

Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</p>

stop compaing working at a bank the idea of team unity in professional sports with media in ur face every 5 minutes

U really try to simplifiy things to where u try to make them seem similiar, but its not


It is, you are over complicating things, these guys are just doing their jobs, they do not need "team unity" anymore then your QC department does....




for u to say there is no difference in reasons for somebody wanting to be traded means u've already lost this argument

good day sir


I don't agree with that, but my question isn't about whats right whats wrong...it's about the reaction of these boards.

the moment it was suggested that Shockey "didn't want to play for the giants" people went ape-****....

"if he doesn't want to play for us get rid of him" was a very common statement.
"Addition by Subtraction" was another.

the attitude I got from the boards was...Anyone who doesn't "WANT" to be a NYG doesn't belong here.

well Osi obviously isn't interested in being a NYG, if he gets the contract he'll stay...because it makes sense for him...monetarily, but he has no affection towards the "giants" as a team (and I would argue it's rare nowadays to find anyone so attached to their team that they are not willing to accept more money from another team)

But seeing as that's the case...where is all the outrage towards Osi....


if u can't understand the difference between the reason for trades then i dont expect u to realize what everybody else sees. Although i do know u see it and ur just slow at work today probably

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:04 PM
But I guess u guys are right at the end of the day, i mean TO leaving Philly as because he sucked. Had nothing to do wtih the QB-WR relationship
</P>


Last time Philly made a SB?</P>


Who was on that team</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:06 PM
Im sorry but Daven's right.</p>


Do you really think in the3 seconds that Eli has to get rid of the ball before he gets hit that he's worrying how much a guy likes him before throwing the ball? Of course not.</p>


He's reading his keys and then <font size="5"><u>trying</u></font> to make the proper throw. His thought process doesnt consist of "Oh boy that Shockey guy sure is mean let me throw it to him"...and if it did, shame on Eli.</p>




its your general relationship with ur receivers..

sorry but the truth of the matter is u typically have a better connection with guys u work with....

Its half mental. I know u guys swear these guys are iron clad machines- but they arne't they are human. No matter how generic they can be to say the right things in qoutes for the paper
</p>


</p>


Theres a difference in being on the wrong page because you didnt practice 1on1 with a guy enough, but to say Shockey's bullying was an underlying cause of Eli's struggles, then Eli is a little *****.</p>

well actually alot of INTs were balls forced into shockey as he complained about not getting the ball

and im not just talking about not working with Eli. I refer TO to McNabb

they worked out together and were onthe same page

why was TO shipped out of Philly then?

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:06 PM
Disagree.



Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</P>


Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</P>




stop compaing working at a bank the idea of team unity in professional sports with media in ur face every 5 minutes

U really try to simplifiy things to where u try to make them seem similiar, but its not


It is, you are over complicating things, these guys are just doing their jobs, they do not need "team unity" anymore then your QC department does....




for u to say there is no difference in reasons for somebody wanting to be traded means u've already lost this argument

good day sir


I don't agree with that, but my question isn't about whats right whats wrong...it's about the reaction of these boards.

the moment it was suggested that Shockey "didn't want to play for the giants" people went ape-****....

"if he doesn't want to play for us get rid of him" was a very common statement.
"Addition by Subtraction" was another.

the attitude I got from the boards was...Anyone who doesn't "WANT" to be a NYG doesn't belong here.

well Osi obviously isn't interested in being a NYG, if he gets the contract he'll stay...because it makes sense for him...monetarily, but he has no affection towards the "giants" as a team (and I would argue it's rare nowadays to find anyone so attached to their team that they are not willing to accept more money from another team)

But seeing as that's the case...where is all the outrage towards Osi....
</P>


First off, there has been plenty of outrage, just ask MH.</P>


Secondly, you've already described the inherent difference in the situations as to why people feel differently.</P>


Shockey was at a point of no return, period, he was getting traded.</P>


Osi is ata point where if we give him a contract he'll stay and continue to be a damn good player.</P>


</P>

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:07 PM
its your general relationship with ur receivers..

Working relationships can be built without being friendly...even with people you find annoying.

Eli and Shockeys "Timing" on routes could have been (and probably was at the time) the best of any of the pass receivers on the team....even if they find each other very annoying.

you seem to think you need to be "friends" in order to work with someone...I completely disagree with that.


<font size="5">BTW MOREHEAD</font>

#1) don't worry about the Draft...as long as I actually remember to make it to the draft this year...it'll be better then last year.

#2) what do you think about the Debt Limit compromise that's been laid out today.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:08 PM
Disagree.


Shockey was getting on everyone's nerves</p>

Does noone at you're work annoy you? I simply do not understand how anyone could honestly believe that Shockey "getting on everyone's nerves" could possibly have any effect on how the team plays on the field.</p>

stop compaing working at a bank the idea of team unity in professional sports with media in ur face every 5 minutes

U really try to simplifiy things to where u try to make them seem similiar, but its not


It is, you are over complicating things, these guys are just doing their jobs, they do not need "team unity" anymore then your QC department does....




for u to say there is no difference in reasons for somebody wanting to be traded means u've already lost this argument

good day sir


I don't agree with that, but my question isn't about whats right whats wrong...it's about the reaction of these boards.

the moment it was suggested that Shockey "didn't want to play for the giants" people went ape-****....

"if he doesn't want to play for us get rid of him" was a very common statement.
"Addition by Subtraction" was another.

the attitude I got from the boards was...Anyone who doesn't "WANT" to be a NYG doesn't belong here.

well Osi obviously isn't interested in being a NYG, if he gets the contract he'll stay...because it makes sense for him...monetarily, but he has no affection towards the "giants" as a team (and I would argue it's rare nowadays to find anyone so attached to their team that they are not willing to accept more money from another team)

But seeing as that's the case...where is all the outrage towards Osi....


and again daven, most of this is ur imagination

there were plenty of people who were pissed shockey was gone. Probably the same people fighting to keep Osi here

The difference is that at the time of trade demands Osi's value is MUCH higher. Alot of people want to just dump him. But also alot of people like me, would dump him if we could get the value

a disgruntled DE who really can't take plays off, if he stays then whatever he stays. He can't **** the bed or hold out, it would be against his main interest, which is to be paid

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:09 PM
well actually alot of INTs were balls forced into shockey as he complained about not getting the ball

</P>


Shockey doesnt throw the ball to himself, who's fault was that?</P>


I already commented on the Philly situation.</P>

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:09 PM
if u can't understand the difference between the reason for trades then i dont expect u to realize what everybody else sees. Although i do know u see it and ur just slow at work today probably


Stop acting like you actually believe there is anything about this I don't understand...stop coping out.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:10 PM
its your general relationship with ur receivers..

Working relationships can be built without being friendly...even with people you find annoying.

Eli and Shockeys "Timing" on routes could have been (and probably was at the time) the best of any of the pass receivers on the team....even if they find each other very annoying.

you seem to think you need to be "friends" in order to work with someone...I completely disagree with that.


<font size="5">BTW MOREHEAD</font>

#1) don't worry about the Draft...as long as I actually remember to make it to the draft this year...it'll be better then last year.

#2) what do you think about the Debt Limit compromise that's been laid out today.


not with players with egos like shockey. Every person is not the same. Not EVERY person can have a professional relationship with ANYbody.

shockey was def a head case.

No i don't disagree with that, but i think with a person like shockey if hes not on board hes more destructive than useful

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:11 PM
if u can't understand the difference between the reason for trades then i dont expect u to realize what everybody else sees. Although i do know u see it and ur just slow at work today probably


Stop acting like you actually believe there is anything about this I don't understand...stop coping out.


theres no cop out

u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

if u don't understand the difference, then i dont hink u'd understand why some people feel fine about letting Osi play it out if we can't get a frst rounder for him

Its not a cop out actually, its the truth. But like i said, i know ur slow at work today so i'll keep humoring you

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 04:12 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.

well first pick overall i think u mean

i def see some QBs going first round and it being worth it

Does he have a different first pick Matt?


ahh read it wrong, thought he said "your first pick"

jsut saying I could see Vick going as early as 5

I could see him going as early as 2 [;)]

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:12 PM
if u can't understand the difference between the reason for trades then i dont expect u to realize what everybody else sees. Although i do know u see it and ur just slow at work today probably


Stop acting like you actually believe there is anything about this I don't understand...stop coping out.


theres no cop out

u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

if u don't understand the difference, then i dont hink u'd understand why some people feel fine about letting Osi play it out if we can't get a frst rounder for him

Its not a cop out actually, its the truth. But like i said, i know ur slow at work today so i'll keep humoring you

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:12 PM
if u can't understand the difference between the reason for trades then i dont expect u to realize what everybody else sees. Although i do know u see it and ur just slow at work today probably


Stop acting like you actually believe there is anything about this I don't understand...stop coping out.


theres no cop out

u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

if u don't understand the difference, then i dont hink u'd understand why some people feel fine about letting Osi play it out if we can't get a frst rounder for him

Its not a cop out actually, its the truth. But like i said, i know ur slow at work today so i'll keep humoring you

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:13 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.

well first pick overall i think u mean

i def see some QBs going first round and it being worth it

Does he have a different first pick Matt?


ahh read it wrong, thought he said "your first pick"

jsut saying I could see Vick going as early as 5

I could see him going as early as 2 [;)]


i dont

cuz then u wouldn't be *****ing about Daven going Rodgers

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:13 PM
its your general relationship with ur receivers..

Working relationships can be built without being friendly...even with people you find annoying.

Eli and Shockeys "Timing" on routes could have been (and probably was at the time) the best of any of the pass receivers on the team....even if they find each other very annoying.

you seem to think you need to be "friends" in order to work with someone...I completely disagree with that.


<FONT size=5>BTW MOREHEAD</FONT>

#1) don't worry about the Draft...as long as I actually remember to make it to the draft this year...it'll be better then last year.

#2) what do you think about the Debt Limit compromise that's been laid out today.


not with players with egos like shockey. Every person is not the same. Not EVERY person can have a professional relationship with ANYbody.

shockey was def a head case.

No i don't disagree with that, but i think with a person like shockey if hes not on board hes more destructive than useful
</P>


kerry collins and shockey got along just fine, and when he tried to pull **** with brees that ended fast.</P>

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:13 PM
First off, there has been plenty of outrage, just ask MH.


Secondly, you've already described the inherent difference in the situations as to why people feel differently.</p>


Shockey was at a point of no return, period, he was getting traded.</p>



Osi is ata point where if we give him a contract he'll stay and continue to be a damn good player.</p>


</p>

The feeling I got back then Lawl...was if someone doesn't "WANT" to play for the Giants as in if they are willing to leave to other teams...as in if they don't have some affection towards the Giants...as a franchise/team then they should be chased away...they didn't deserve to play here.</p>

In that respect...there is no difference between Osi and Shockey...neither particularly "WANTS" to play for the giants...they want to play...and get payed...and if its the giants that makes that happen then fine.</p>

if there has been a similar reaction, it's quite possible I missed it...since I pretty much only read this thread now :P
</p>


</p>


</p>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:15 PM
its your general relationship with ur receivers..

Working relationships can be built without being friendly...even with people you find annoying.

Eli and Shockeys "Timing" on routes could have been (and probably was at the time) the best of any of the pass receivers on the team....even if they find each other very annoying.

you seem to think you need to be "friends" in order to work with someone...I completely disagree with that.


<font size="5">BTW MOREHEAD</font>

#1) don't worry about the Draft...as long as I actually remember to make it to the draft this year...it'll be better then last year.

#2) what do you think about the Debt Limit compromise that's been laid out today.


not with players with egos like shockey. Every person is not the same. Not EVERY person can have a professional relationship with ANYbody.

shockey was def a head case.

No i don't disagree with that, but i think with a person like shockey if hes not on board hes more destructive than useful
</p>


kerry collins and shockey got along just fine, and when he tried to pull **** with brees that ended fast.</p>

okay.. soooo exactly lol

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:16 PM
First off, there has been plenty of outrage, just ask MH.


Secondly, you've already described the inherent difference in the situations as to why people feel differently.</p>


Shockey was at a point of no return, period, he was getting traded.</p>



Osi is ata point where if we give him a contract he'll stay and continue to be a damn good player.</p>


</p>

The feeling I got back then Lawl...was if someone doesn't "WANT" to play for the Giants as in if they are willing to leave to other teams...as in if they don't have some affection towards the Giants...as a franchise/team then they should be chased away...they didn't deserve to play here.</p>

In that respect...there is no difference between Osi and Shockey...neither particularly "WANTS" to play for the giants...they want to play...and get payed...and if its the giants that makes that happen then fine.</p>

if there has been a similar reaction, it's quite possible I missed it...since I pretty much only read this thread now :P
</p>

</p>



</p>

Yea but do u not agree that Osi's value in the NFL is alot higher than what Shockey's was at that time?</p>
And there were plenty of people at that the time that didn't want Shockey traded

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:18 PM
u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

No, actually, I don't think the situations are the same....but for the question I'm asking...they are.

the question I'm asking is...

If the Boards think someone who doesn't specifically want to play FOR THE GIANTS needs to be kicked off the team because then they don't deserve to play here...

(and that was the attitude I observed during the Shockey situation)

Then how come the same attitude isn't applicable for Osi.

Neither Osi or Shockey...specifically wanted to play "for the giants" thus both should bring about the same reaction from the boards.

why the TEAM would keep one and not the other...that I completely understand...but that's a different question.

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 04:18 PM
Daven, if you go QB with the first pick you will kill your team.

well first pick overall i think u mean

i def see some QBs going first round and it being worth it

Does he have a different first pick Matt?


ahh read it wrong, thought he said "your first pick"

jsut saying I could see Vick going as early as 5

I could see him going as early as 2 [;)]


i dont

cuz then u wouldn't be *****ing about Daven going Rodgers

I didn't say anything about Daven taking Rodgers...

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:21 PM
Yea but do u not agree that Osi's value in the NFL is alot higher than what Shockey's was at that time?
And there were plenty of people at that the time that didn't want Shockey traded


Their respective value's should be irrelevant... the reason Shockey initially drew this boards hate was because it was perceived he didn't "want to be a giant" the same exact thing can be said about Osi....yeah the situations are different...but that one part is exactly the same...so...since that was the reason Shockey initially drew the hate...should Osi be seeing a similar hate?

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:24 PM
u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

No, actually, I don't think the situations are the same....but for the question I'm asking...they are.

the question I'm asking is...

If the Boards think someone who doesn't specifically want to play FOR THE GIANTS needs to be kicked off the team because then they don't deserve to play here...

(and that was the attitude I observed during the Shockey situation)

Then how come the same attitude isn't applicable for Osi.

Neither Osi or Shockey...specifically wanted to play "for the giants" thus both should bring about the same reaction from the boards.

why the TEAM would keep one and not the other...that I completely understand...but that's a different question.


</P>


The question I'm asking-</P>


If you've admitted to not paying attention to the forums to know that people have *****ed about osi for weeks, then why are you bringing this up?</P>

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:26 PM
The question I'm asking-


If you've admitted to not paying attention to the forums to know that people have *****ed about osi for weeks, then why are you bringing this up?</p>


</p>

Trolling, as usual, spring some debate...I knew there was a few people who'd argue about it :)</p>

good question by the way...no way for me to slip outta that one.
</p>


</p>

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 04:26 PM
kerry collins and shockey got along just fine</P>


cuz they were getting hammered together every night of the week =P</P>


that **** with Brees though...you saw ppl jump on Shockey...like "i dont think so, a55hole..."</P>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 04:28 PM
<div class="report">


Asked by reporters Monday whether he's requested a trade, Eagles CB Asante Samuel replied, "No comment."</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Samuel said he feels "50-50" about being wanted by
the Eagles. The team has been evasive as well when asked about Samuel's
future on the roster following the Nnamdi Asomugha signing, indicating
Samuel is indeed available. The Eagles' asking practice is uncertain,
but his $5.9 million base salary isn't prohibitive. They may hold out
in hopes of being offered a second-day pick.


Maybe we should sign Asante to play WR cause Eli loves throwing the ball to him.
</div>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 04:29 PM
<div class="report">


Giants CB Aaron Ross is refusing to play safety going forward after seeing action there in a pinch last season.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"I'm not willing to do safety anymore," he said.
"Wouldn't entertain it." Ross has been dogged by lower-leg and foot
injuries over the past two seasons, starting just two games and missing
13. After the Giants used a first-round pick on Prince Amukamara, it
isn't out of the question that Ross could be on the trade block at the
end of camp. He's in the last year of his deal.



PEACE YOU WORTHLESS ****
</div>

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 04:30 PM
<div class="report">


Giants DC Perry Fewell expects SS Kenny Phillips to make a "quantum leap" in his second season as a starter.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Fewell concedes that he "protected (Phillips) a
bit" in his first season back from a major knee surgery last year, but
is ready to unleash the dynamic strong safety. "Heís ready for that
bigger role as we have talked," said Fewell. "I'm looking for big
things." Phillips managed just 77 tackles and one interception last
year. Consider him a value pick in IDP formats.
</div>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:32 PM
<div class="report">


Giants CB Aaron Ross is refusing to play safety going forward after seeing action there in a pinch last season.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"I'm not willing to do safety anymore," he said.
"Wouldn't entertain it." Ross has been dogged by lower-leg and foot
injuries over the past two seasons, starting just two games and missing
13. After the Giants used a first-round pick on Prince Amukamara, it
isn't out of the question that Ross could be on the trade block at the
end of camp. He's in the last year of his deal.



PEACE YOU WORTHLESS ****
</div>

contract year

CBs get paid alot more than Safteys...

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:35 PM
u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

No, actually, I don't think the situations are the same....but for the question I'm asking...they are.

the question I'm asking is...

If the Boards think someone who doesn't specifically want to play FOR THE GIANTS needs to be kicked off the team because then they don't deserve to play here...

(and that was the attitude I observed during the Shockey situation)

Then how come the same attitude isn't applicable for Osi.

Neither Osi or Shockey...specifically wanted to play "for the giants" thus both should bring about the same reaction from the boards.

why the TEAM would keep one and not the other...that I completely understand...but that's a different question.




well i'd say the splits ar epretty much the same as it was for shockey

the reason why i'd be willing to stick it out and keep him aorund is because of the reason hes holding. He wouldn't be in a position to play like **** out there.

Shockeys value was low so we got a 2nd rounder for him and was happy with it. I would be pretty pissed if we got a 2nd rounder for Osi

Just because we think they should be go, doesn't mean we shouldn't get what hes worth

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 04:35 PM
Trolling, as usual</P>



</P>


</P>


Problem?
http://clipartist.net/openclipart.org/2011/June/24-Friday/troll_face_problem-1331px.png</P>

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:37 PM
<div class="report">


Giants CB Aaron Ross is refusing to play safety going forward after seeing action there in a pinch last season.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"I'm not willing to do safety anymore," he said.
"Wouldn't entertain it." Ross has been dogged by lower-leg and foot
injuries over the past two seasons, starting just two games and missing
13. After the Giants used a first-round pick on Prince Amukamara, it
isn't out of the question that Ross could be on the trade block at the
end of camp. He's in the last year of his deal.



PEACE YOU WORTHLESS ****
</div>

contract year

CBs get paid alot more than Safteys...




Guys that see the field get paid alot more than guys that don't.

Meaning if he doesn't play safety his snaps could be even more limited.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:38 PM
Yea but do u not agree that Osi's value in the NFL is alot higher than what Shockey's was at that time?
And there were plenty of people at that the time that didn't want Shockey traded


Their respective value's should be irrelevant... the reason Shockey initially drew this boards hate was because it was perceived he didn't "want to be a giant" the same exact thing can be said about Osi....yeah the situations are different...but that one part is exactly the same...so...since that was the reason Shockey initially drew the hate...should Osi be seeing a similar hate?


like i said the splits are about the same

the only reason I am willing to deal with him this year if we don't get fair value for him it isn't worth it

if he were to **** the bed this year and not try it would hurt the sole purpose he even wants to be traded and held out, because he wants a big contract.

If he ends up playing for us this year, he still have to go balls out. Even faking an injury and not playing, coupled with his history, will hurt his chances to get the pay day

this is what i mean by he has zero leverage. Again I would LOVE to trade him for a first rounder...

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:38 PM
u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

No, actually, I don't think the situations are the same....but for the question I'm asking...they are.

the question I'm asking is...

If the Boards think someone who doesn't specifically want to play FOR THE GIANTS needs to be kicked off the team because then they don't deserve to play here...

(and that was the attitude I observed during the Shockey situation)

Then how come the same attitude isn't applicable for Osi.

Neither Osi or Shockey...specifically wanted to play "for the giants" thus both should bring about the same reaction from the boards.

why the TEAM would keep one and not the other...that I completely understand...but that's a different question.


</p>


The question I'm asking-</p>


If you've admitted to not paying attention to the forums to know that people have *****ed about osi for weeks, then why are you bringing this up?</p>

hes slow at work

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:38 PM
u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

No, actually, I don't think the situations are the same....but for the question I'm asking...they are.

the question I'm asking is...

If the Boards think someone who doesn't specifically want to play FOR THE GIANTS needs to be kicked off the team because then they don't deserve to play here...

(and that was the attitude I observed during the Shockey situation)

Then how come the same attitude isn't applicable for Osi.

Neither Osi or Shockey...specifically wanted to play "for the giants" thus both should bring about the same reaction from the boards.

why the TEAM would keep one and not the other...that I completely understand...but that's a different question.




well i'd say the splits ar epretty much the same as it was for shockey

the reason why i'd be willing to stick it out and keep him aorund is because of the reason hes holding. He wouldn't be in a position to play like **** out there.

Shockeys value was low so we got a 2nd rounder for him and was happy with it. I would be pretty pissed if we got a 2nd rounder for Osi

Just because we think they should be go, doesn't mean we shouldn't get what hes worth


We got a 2nd and 5th for Shockey, which is actually a damn good deal for a TE.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:40 PM
<div class="report">


Giants CB Aaron Ross is refusing to play safety going forward after seeing action there in a pinch last season.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"I'm not willing to do safety anymore," he said.
"Wouldn't entertain it." Ross has been dogged by lower-leg and foot
injuries over the past two seasons, starting just two games and missing
13. After the Giants used a first-round pick on Prince Amukamara, it
isn't out of the question that Ross could be on the trade block at the
end of camp. He's in the last year of his deal.



PEACE YOU WORTHLESS ****
</div>

contract year

CBs get paid alot more than Safteys...




Guys that see the field get paid alot more than guys that don't.

Meaning if he doesn't play safety his snaps could be even more limited.

yea i guess.. not with Prince not in camp yet though

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:41 PM
u just think the situation that Shockey nad Osi had are the same because they are holding out

No, actually, I don't think the situations are the same....but for the question I'm asking...they are.

the question I'm asking is...

If the Boards think someone who doesn't specifically want to play FOR THE GIANTS needs to be kicked off the team because then they don't deserve to play here...

(and that was the attitude I observed during the Shockey situation)

Then how come the same attitude isn't applicable for Osi.

Neither Osi or Shockey...specifically wanted to play "for the giants" thus both should bring about the same reaction from the boards.

why the TEAM would keep one and not the other...that I completely understand...but that's a different question.




well i'd say the splits ar epretty much the same as it was for shockey

the reason why i'd be willing to stick it out and keep him aorund is because of the reason hes holding. He wouldn't be in a position to play like **** out there.

Shockeys value was low so we got a 2nd rounder for him and was happy with it. I would be pretty pissed if we got a 2nd rounder for Osi

Just because we think they should be go, doesn't mean we shouldn't get what hes worth


We got a 2nd and 5th for Shockey, which is actually a damn good deal for a TE.

yea it was, just at the time we liked him alot more than he actually was producing

it was a love thang for not being happy

But alot of people were calling for a 1st rounder

if we dont' get a first rounder or a player and a high pick 4 osi, its not worth it

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:41 PM
We got a 2nd and 5th for Shockey, which is actually a damn good deal for a TE.
which turned into Clint Sintim and Rhett Bomar.

I'm not sure that panned out in our favor...Sintim might end up being ok I guess.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:42 PM
bradshaws deal was 4 year 18 mil 9 guaranteed

good deal for us?

Gotta show Reese love for standing pat and getting him at our price

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:43 PM
We got a 2nd and 5th for Shockey, which is actually a damn good deal for a TE.
which turned into Clint Sintim and Rhett Bomar.

I'm not sure that panned out in our favor...Sintim might end up being ok I guess.


yea we **** the bed on that

Should of used the 5th to trade up and get Rey Mualuga

we could of been set at LB

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 04:44 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/e2/e22af15e79827b071ae2dddae4ed9d9e/winners_the_five_teams_who_improved_the_most_in_fr ee_agency.jpg

lawl
08-01-2011, 04:46 PM
We got a 2nd and 5th for Shockey, which is actually a damn good deal for a TE.
which turned into Clint Sintim and Rhett Bomar.

I'm not sure that panned out in our favor...Sintim might end up being ok I guess.
</P>


the guys we selected suck, but the value in the picks for a TE was still profound.</P>


</P>


As for Bradshaw. That deal is cheap as ****.</P>


Ward got like 4 for 16 from tampa couple years ago</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:46 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/e2/e22af15e79827b071ae2dddae4ed9d9e/winners_the_five_teams_who_improved_the_most_in_fr ee_agency.jpg

yo nnamdi, DRC, and Samuel is a SICK set of secondary

coupled wtih McCoy - Vick - Mac - and DJax is SICKKK

evne those two DEs they signed are legit

buttttttt their LBs, DTs, safteys, and oline suck

i don tthink the EAgles did themselves any good by dropping the load on Nnamdi

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:47 PM
We got a 2nd and 5th for Shockey, which is actually a damn good deal for a TE.
which turned into Clint Sintim and Rhett Bomar.

I'm not sure that panned out in our favor...Sintim might end up being ok I guess.
</p>


the guys we selected suck, but the value in the picks for a TE was still profound.</p>


</p>


As for Bradshaw. That deal is cheap as ****.</p>


Ward got like 4 for 16 from tampa couple years ago</p>

50% guaranteed is alot though

who cares, just happy we got him at what i think a fair price

now we just have to see wtf is up with boss

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:51 PM
We got a 2nd and 5th for Shockey, which is actually a damn good deal for a TE.
which turned into Clint Sintim and Rhett Bomar.

I'm not sure that panned out in our favor...Sintim might end up being ok I guess.
</p>


the guys we selected suck, but the value in the picks for a TE was still profound.</p>


</p>


As for Bradshaw. That deal is cheap as ****.</p>


Ward got like 4 for 16 from tampa couple years ago</p>

I guess it's good we got him for cheap...I'd still like to see how someone else could do, but at the price we got him for he's worth it.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:52 PM
We got a 2nd and 5th for Shockey, which is actually a damn good deal for a TE.
which turned into Clint Sintim and Rhett Bomar.

I'm not sure that panned out in our favor...Sintim might end up being ok I guess.
</p>


the guys we selected suck, but the value in the picks for a TE was still profound.</p>


</p>


As for Bradshaw. That deal is cheap as ****.</p>


Ward got like 4 for 16 from tampa couple years ago</p>

I guess it's good we got him for cheap...I'd still like to see how someone else could do, but at the price we got him for he's worth it.


if he could of stopped fumbling he prolly could of got like a 2 mil more a year deal

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 04:52 PM
bradshaws deal was 4 year 18 mil 9 guaranteed

good deal for us?

Gotta show Reese love for standing pat and getting him at our price

**** YEAH. Talk about a bargain. He thought he was going to get D Will money. lol

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 04:56 PM
bradshaws deal was 4 year 18 mil 9 guaranteed

good deal for us?

Gotta show Reese love for standing pat and getting him at our price

**** YEAH. Talk about a bargain. He thought he was going to get D Will money. lol


if he didn't fumble he could of gotten close to it..

DWills money was over hyped because Carolina was looking to spend the money since they just hoarded it

I guess Moorehead was WAYYYYYYYY off

DavenIII
08-01-2011, 04:57 PM
Time to head out, later peoples!

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 05:07 PM
Giants agreed to terms with TE Ben Patrick on a one-year contract.


Uh-oh...

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:08 PM
uhhhh did anyone else get hit with an hour long hail storm?? lol
**** was nuts.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 05:10 PM
bradshaws deal was 4 year 18 mil 9 guaranteed

good deal for us?

Gotta show Reese love for standing pat and getting him at our price

**** YEAH. Talk about a bargain. He thought he was going to get D Will money. lol


if he didn't fumble he could of gotten close to it..

DWills money was over hyped because Carolina was looking to spend the money since they just hoarded it

<FONT color=#0000ff>I guess Moorehead was WAYYYYYYYY off
</FONT></P>


forgot about that. You and I were almost spot on. very similar to the jacobs deal (yearly wise)</P>

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:10 PM
bradshaws deal was 4 year 18 mil 9 guaranteed

good deal for us?

Gotta show Reese love for standing pat and getting him at our price

**** YEAH. Talk about a bargain. He thought he was going to get D Will money. lol


if he didn't fumble he could of gotten close to it..

DWills money was over hyped because Carolina was looking to spend the money since they just hoarded it

<u>I guess Moorehead was WAYYYYYYYY off</u>
as usual.
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.

bigblue4417
08-01-2011, 05:11 PM
This has got to be THEE dumbest headline I have ever seen on a website...

Camp Confidential: Steelers' goal is Super Bowl (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/30026/camp-confidential-pittsburgh-steelers)

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that every ****ing teams goal? lol

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 05:11 PM
uhhhh did anyone else get hit with an hour long hail storm?? lol
**** was nuts.
</P>


we just did....only about 20 mins.</P>


but....****ing golf ball sized ****...crazy.
I just went outside when it stopped to check my car. I will have to give it a better look once it's dry to make sure it didn't dimple anything. that would piss me off to no end.</P>

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 05:15 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</P>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:21 PM
Giants agreed to terms with TE Ben Patrick on a one-year contract.


Uh-oh...


i just read we signed him to replace Beckum LMAO

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:21 PM
uhhhh did anyone else get hit with an hour long hail storm?? lol
**** was nuts.
</p>


we just did....only about 20 mins.</p>


but....****ing golf ball sized ****...crazy.
I just went outside when it stopped to check my car. I will have to give it a better look once it's dry to make sure it didn't dimple anything. that would piss me off to no end.</p>mines in the garage. my neighbors got it bad. yea at first the were like dime sized then just kept getting bigger.
i left my window open and my screen is riddled with holes.lol and my bed a little wet. not to bad.

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:21 PM
bradshaws deal was 4 year 18 mil 9 guaranteed

good deal for us?

Gotta show Reese love for standing pat and getting him at our price

**** YEAH. Talk about a bargain. He thought he was going to get D Will money. lol


if he didn't fumble he could of gotten close to it..

DWills money was over hyped because Carolina was looking to spend the money since they just hoarded it

<font color="#0000ff">I guess Moorehead was WAYYYYYYYY off
</font></p>


forgot about that. You and I were almost spot on. very similar to the jacobs deal (yearly wise)</p>

haha yea it was a jaded number for dwill, but even still

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:22 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>

not only were they alot but they are timely

honestly dezz ur on crack

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:24 PM
zach miller visitng Seattle

god! if they only got a QB

they need to look into Denver get Orten

Why would they pay TJack? Awful!

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:24 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.

Morehead State
08-01-2011, 05:25 PM
bradshaws deal was 4 year 18 mil 9 guaranteed

good deal for us?

Gotta show Reese love for standing pat and getting him at our price

**** YEAH. Talk about a bargain. He thought he was going to get D Will money. lol


if he didn't fumble he could of gotten close to it..

DWills money was over hyped because Carolina was looking to spend the money since they just hoarded it

I guess Moorehead was WAYYYYYYYY off
</P>


First of all, the only reason DWill resigned was exactly as you described. Carolina needed to spend the cash to get to the minimum.</P>


But in regards to Bradshaw, his agent screwed the pooch big time. He pissed off a few teams to the point where they said "go screw yourself Amhad" and signed ortraded forother backs who were cheaper. He could have gotten a lot more last week and was probably offered more. Once his agent allowed the market to dry up, the Giants could get him for a song. Which they did.</P>


But yes, I was WAAAAAAY off.</P>

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:25 PM
zach miller visitng Seattle

god! if they only got a QB

they need to look into Denver get Orten

Why would they pay TJack? Awful!
didnt orton go to miami?

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:27 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:27 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>

not only were they alot but they are timely

honestly dezz ur on crack
then youre on crack AAND smack

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:28 PM
bradshaws deal was 4 year 18 mil 9 guaranteed

good deal for us?

Gotta show Reese love for standing pat and getting him at our price

**** YEAH. Talk about a bargain. He thought he was going to get D Will money. lol


if he didn't fumble he could of gotten close to it..

DWills money was over hyped because Carolina was looking to spend the money since they just hoarded it

I guess Moorehead was WAYYYYYYYY off
</p>


First of all, the only reason DWill resigned was exactly as you described. Carolina needed to spend the cash to get to the minimum.</p>


But in regards to Bradshaw, his agent screwed the pooch big time. He pissed off a few teams to the point where they said "go screw yourself Amhad" and signed ortraded forother backs who were cheaper. He could have gotten a lot more last week and was probably offered more. Once his agent allowed the market to dry up, the Giants could get him for a song. Which they did.</p>


But yes, I was WAAAAAAY off.</p>

even still, dwill would of got like 6 mil a year average in a normal situation

bradshaw did nto have that market

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:29 PM
zach miller visitng Seattle

god! if they only got a QB

they need to look into Denver get Orten

Why would they pay TJack? Awful!
didnt orton go to miami?



negatory

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:29 PM
zach miller visitng Seattle

god! if they only got a QB

they need to look into Denver get Orten

Why would they pay TJack? Awful!
didnt orton go to miami?



negatory

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 05:29 PM
zach miller visitng Seattle

god! if they only got a QB

they need to look into Denver get Orten

Why would they pay TJack? Awful!
didnt orton go to miami?



negatory

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:32 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
im sure he could if he had 100 more carries like ap. the issue is fixable, therefor over hyped.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 05:37 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</P>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</P>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</P>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</P>

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:41 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 05:47 PM
the issue is fixable, therefor over hyped.



not until it's fixed....till then it's a ****ing issue.</P>

lawl
08-01-2011, 05:52 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling* issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries* you smoke better crack than i do.


AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.

dezzzR
08-01-2011, 05:59 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.


AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.

lawl
08-01-2011, 07:11 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</P>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</P>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</P>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</P>


lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.
AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.
</P>


hes going to have 100 carries betweentwo playoff games?</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 07:46 PM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
im sure he could if he had 100 more carries like ap. the issue is fixable, therefor over hyped.


until its fixed, its not over hyped. Becuase it wasn't fixed last year

ny06
08-01-2011, 09:36 PM
</P>


http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2168915.aspx (/forums/thread/2168915.aspx)</P>


Good call. </P>

MattMeyerBud
08-01-2011, 09:55 PM
</p>


http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2168915.aspx (/forums/thread/2168915.aspx)</p>


Good call. </p>

thank ya

JPizzack
08-01-2011, 10:21 PM
I like your sig.
LOL JK nobody cant see it!!

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 08:38 AM
morning

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 09:09 AM
morning</P>


yo</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 09:09 AM
One week into the 2011 spending spree under the new $120.4 million
salary cap, 11 teams still have more than $20 million available for the
coming season. A source with knowledge of the numbers has shared them
with PFT.</p>


Leading the way are the Bengals, with more than $41 million in cap room. The Jaguars have more than $34 million.</p>


And the bronze goes, surprisingly, to the Browns, with more than $30.4 million.</p>


The others are: the Buccaneers (more than $30.2 million); the 49ers
(more than $30.0 million); the Chiefs (more than $28.7 million); the
Broncos (more than $26.7 million); the Bills (more than $26.5 million);
the Bears (more than $24 million); the Cardinals (more than $23.6
million); and the Seahawks (more than $21.2 million).</p>



</p>
---- plenty of places for Osi to go.... we'll see if any of them will take him. ALOT of them in the 4-3 as well

ny06
08-02-2011, 09:36 AM
One week into the 2011 spending spree under the new $120.4 million salary cap, 11 teams still have more than $20 million available for the coming season. A source with knowledge of the numbers has shared them with PFT.</P>


Leading the way are the Bengals, with more than $41 million in cap room. The Jaguars have more than $34 million.</P>


And the bronze goes, surprisingly, to the Browns, with more than $30.4 million.</P>


The others are: the Buccaneers (more than $30.2 million); the 49ers (more than $30.0 million); the Chiefs (more than $28.7 million); the Broncos (more than $26.7 million); the Bills (more than $26.5 million); the Bears (more than $24 million); the Cardinals (more than $23.6 million); and the Seahawks (more than $21.2 million).</P>




</P>



---- plenty of places for Osi to go.... we'll see if any of them will take him. ALOT of them in the 4-3 as well
</P>


It all depends on who is willing to give a 1st round pick. </P>

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 09:40 AM
I'm still kinda hoping Osi bites the bullet and sticks around. I'm not sold on Kiwi being 100% and having a D-line with a 2nd year guy, and a rookie DT in the mix, isn't my idea of solid right now. Especially since we didn't get any LBs or anything.

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 09:42 AM
Does is strike any of you that the newMBis almost identical to the old one?

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 09:45 AM
apparently nobody per NFL Sirius Radio

but i bet somebody bites

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 09:46 AM
Does is strike any of you that the newMBis almost identical to the old one?</P>


The new one is out?
(clearly you can tell how much of a **** I give about new boards)</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 09:49 AM
I'm still kinda hoping Osi bites the bullet and sticks around. I'm not sold on Kiwi being 100% and having a D-line with a 2nd year guy, and a rookie DT in the mix, isn't my idea of solid right now. Especially since we didn't get any LBs or anything.

i think we're going to get a great value vet LB signing at the end of the day

a ton of talent out there. Once we get our guys and see whats up with Osi officially - we'll see what we get

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 09:54 AM
Does is strike any of you that the newMBis almost identical to the old one?</p>


The new one is out?
(clearly you can tell how much of a **** I give about new boards)</p>

i think its completely different

but yea i didn't know they released it to everybody.

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 10:03 AM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>


lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.
AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.
</p>


hes going to have 100 carries betweentwo playoff games?</p>2 playoff games? if we make the wild card(which is the best bet) well have to play 4. so yes a little under a hundred.

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 10:07 AM
I like your sig.
LOL JK nobody cant see it!!Upgrade to pro, would ya Dezz. Good Morning.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 10:07 AM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>


lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.
AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.
</p>


hes going to have 100 carries betweentwo playoff games?</p>2 playoff games? if we make the wild card(which is the best bet) well have to play 4. so yes a little under a hundred.


u dont think we can win the division? Really?

Im not on that Philly bandwagon at all

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 10:08 AM
I like your sig.
LOL JK nobody cant see it!!Upgrade to pro, would ya Dezz. Good Morning.

noooope

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 10:10 AM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>


lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.
AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.
</p>


hes going to have 100 carries betweentwo playoff games?</p>2 playoff games? if we make the wild card(which is the best bet) well have to play 4. so yes a little under a hundred.


u dont think we can win the division? Really?

Im not on that Philly bandwagon at all
Vs Philly--we run a 3 wr set and philly say's ok, here's Namdi, Asante and R. Cromartie. Philly's weakness lies in their Lb's. Our oline will have to block the **** out of their d-line and the nyg attack will have to start in the middle.

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 10:11 AM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>


lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.
AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.
</p>


hes going to have 100 carries betweentwo playoff games?</p>2 playoff games? if we make the wild card(which is the best bet) well have to play 4. so yes a little under a hundred.


u dont think we can win the division? Really?

Im not on that Philly bandwagon at all
i dont know, we havnt beat them in a loooong time. im not sold on our defense

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 10:12 AM
I like your sig. LOL JK nobody cant see it!!Upgrade to pro, would ya Dezz. Good Morning.

noooope</P>


What, you just hope it ****ing magically appears again?</P>


youre worse than BBS62, he would post like 8 pictures in a row....ALL with the bandwidth exceeded...

Never go full RETODD</P>

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 10:14 AM
I like your sig. LOL JK nobody cant see it!!Upgrade to pro, would ya Dezz. Good Morning.

noooope</p>


<u>What, you just hope it ****ing magically appears again?</u></p>


youre worse than BBS62, he would post like 8 pictures in a row....ALL with the bandwidth exceeded...

Never go full RETODD</p>it will. its done it before.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 10:22 AM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>


lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.
AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.
</p>


hes going to have 100 carries betweentwo playoff games?</p>2 playoff games? if we make the wild card(which is the best bet) well have to play 4. so yes a little under a hundred.


u dont think we can win the division? Really?

Im not on that Philly bandwagon at all
Vs Philly--we run a 3 wr set and philly say's ok, here's Namdi, Asante and R. Cromartie. Philly's weakness lies in their Lb's. Our oline will have to block the **** out of their d-line and the nyg attack will have to start in the middle.


when we play philly we better play smash mouth

Not only is their LBs garbage, but so is their safteys and DTs

They are seriously overrated

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 10:22 AM
some lady just walked out of my branch, but immediately walked back in. and shes says "looks like someone dropped their bracelet in the lobby!" and she hands it to me...

It's like a pink plastic Cowboys charm bracelet.

You know where I'm keeping it? That's right...
</P>


.....the garbage can.</P>

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 10:23 AM
Does is strike any of you that the newMBis almost identical to the old one?</P>


The new one is out?
(clearly you can tell how much of a **** I give about new boards)</P>


</P>


Let me carefully explain the joke Pizzey.</P>


You see it was supposed to be out on August 1st. But its not out yet. </P>


Thus the joke.</P>


The short bus is round the corner. Get your helmet on and wait out front.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 10:24 AM
even so - u know we're going to take at least one

and their oline, dt, lbs, and safteys are garbage

unhappy djax and a questionable illness with maclin

Vick has a year of tape on him in reid's offense with a lack of blocking

our de is fine man. We'll be good

we're taking the division this year

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 10:26 AM
Does is strike any of you that the newMBis almost identical to the old one?</p>


The new one is out?
(clearly you can tell how much of a **** I give about new boards)</p>


</p>


Let me carefully explain the joke Pizzey.</p>


You see it was supposed to be out on August 1st. But its not out yet. </p>


Thus the joke.</p>


The short bus is round the corner. Get your helmet on and wait out front.</p>

good joke

http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/crickets.jpg

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 10:31 AM
even so - u know we're going to take at least one

and their oline, dt, lbs, and safteys are garbage

unhappy djax and a questionable illness with maclin

Vick has a year of tape on him in reid's offense with a lack of blocking

our de is fine man. We'll be good

we're taking the division this year
i cant underestimate the eagles anymore. lol iv done it for the past3 years. i thought we would kill kolb, nope. i never thought vick would be good again. that blew up in my face, horribly. djax will get his contract. and i think their corners are going to give eli problems. ughhh ima negative nancy today.

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 10:33 AM
Does is strike any of you that the newMBis almost identical to the old one?</P>


The new one is out?
(clearly you can tell how much of a **** I give about new boards)</P>


</P>


Let me carefully explain the joke Pizzey.</P>


You see it was supposed to be out on August 1st. But its not out yet. </P>


Thus the joke.</P>


The short bus is round the corner. Get your helmet on and wait out front.</P>


</P>


how would I have known that
A) there was a date and
B) you were joking,

when I admittedly did not give a **** to begin with?</P>

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 10:38 AM
I like your sig. LOL JK nobody cant see it!!Upgrade to pro, would ya Dezz. Good Morning.

noooope</p>


What, you just hope it ****ing magically appears again?</p>


youre worse than BBS62, he would post like 8 pictures in a row....ALL with the bandwidth exceeded...

Never go full RETODD</p>Now-that made me laugh...sorry Dezz

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 10:39 AM
Does is strike any of you that the newMBis almost identical to the old one?</P>


The new one is out?
(clearly you can tell how much of a **** I give about new boards)</P>


</P>


Let me carefully explain the joke Pizzey.</P>


You see it was supposed to be out on August 1st. But its not out yet. </P>


Thus the joke.</P>


The short bus is round the corner. Get your helmet on and wait out front.</P>


</P>


how would I have known that
A) there was a date and
B) you were joking,

when I admittedly did not give a **** to begin with?</P>


</P>


It would have taken a certain elevated awareness of the universe around us.</P>


I'm surprised you fell short in that regard.</P>


(You realize of course that there's a thread about the new boards out there...right?)</P>

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 10:44 AM
(You realize of course that there's a thread about the new boards out there...right?)</P>


</P>


nope. didn't know. I can't read half the nonsense on these boards. call it selective attention to detail.</P>


lol</P>

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 10:47 AM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>


lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.
AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.
</p>


hes going to have 100 carries betweentwo playoff games?</p>2 playoff games? if we make the wild card(which is the best bet) well have to play 4. so yes a little under a hundred.


u dont think we can win the division? Really?

Im not on that Philly bandwagon at all
Vs Philly--we run a 3 wr set and philly say's ok, here's Namdi, Asante and R. Cromartie. Philly's weakness lies in their Lb's. Our oline will have to block the **** out of their d-line and the nyg attack will have to start in the middle.


when we play philly we better play smash mouth

Not only is their LBs garbage, but so is their safteys and DTs

They are seriously overrated


The Big Guy comes in about 1/2 hour ago and we have to have our usual "talk". Where he questions things that he has questioned before to see if he will receive a different answer. Then we progress to the part where he say's the same thing in a different way...I reciprocate and spin my reply in a different way to continue our mental fencing. He will skate off in a completely different direction and then try to sail back in (ala carte defense lawyer style). Really weird, Does Luigi look like he is with holding information or something? idk. Oh how these day's try me.

Smash mouth all the way. Eagles corner are guilty of overpursuit. You can burn their *** bigtime for a big play on their mistakes.

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 10:48 AM
(You realize of course that there's a thread about the new boards out there...right?)</p>


</p>


nope. didn't know. I can't read half the nonsense on these boards. call it selective attention to detail.</p>


lol</p>Speaking of.,......Mmb--When do we officially go over to the new boards? I 've got a new itiniery of avatars for you'all. Supersize avi's on v-bulletin.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 10:49 AM
i think people over react with bradshaw and his fumbling issue.
</p>


You serious? When have you ever seen a 1st string running back with those kind of fumble numbers?? Tiki Barber....except Tiki had alot more yardage. 7 fumbles on split carries is really really bad.</p>


adrian peterson had 9 in 08 and he was considered the best hb in the league then. 3 came in a playoff game. it happens to all hbs. and lets be real, bradshaw had over 100 more carries than bj so its not like they really split the carries.
bradshaw has a shifty style. tc will fix it the fumbling.


when bradshaw throws up 1700 averaging 4.8 and 10 tds

we'll let him slide
</p>


Preeeeecisely.....he's Ahmad Brashaw....not Adrian Peterson. I want Peterson numbers in order to forget about an assinine amount of fumbles.
AB had a good year....but there were alot of RBs on much worse teams who did ALOT better and didn't drop more than 2-3 times.</p>


lol if you two knuckle heads think ab cant get around 400 yards and 2 more tds with a 100 more carries you smoke better crack than i do.
AB probably couldnt handle another 100 more carries without getting injured.well if we want to make it to the superbowl hes gonna have too.
</p>


hes going to have 100 carries betweentwo playoff games?</p>2 playoff games? if we make the wild card(which is the best bet) well have to play 4. so yes a little under a hundred.


u dont think we can win the division? Really?

Im not on that Philly bandwagon at all
Vs Philly--we run a 3 wr set and philly say's ok, here's Namdi, Asante and R. Cromartie. Philly's weakness lies in their Lb's. Our oline will have to block the **** out of their d-line and the nyg attack will have to start in the middle.


when we play philly we better play smash mouth

Not only is their LBs garbage, but so is their safteys and DTs

They are seriously overrated


The Big Guy comes in about 1/2 hour ago and we have to have our usual "talk". Where he questions things that he has questioned before to see if he will receive a different answer. Then we progress to the part where he say's the same thing in a different way...I reciprocate and spin my reply in a different way to continue our mental fencing. He will skate off in a completely different direction and then try to sail back in (ala carte defense lawyer style). Really weird, Does Luigi look like he is with holding information or something? idk. Oh how these day's try me.

Smash mouth all the way. Eagles corner are guilty of overpursuit. You can burn their *** bigtime for a big play on their mistakes.


hell yea

Pound and play action

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 10:49 AM
(You realize of course that there's a thread about the new boards out there...right?)</p>


</p>


nope. didn't know. I can't read half the nonsense on these boards. call it selective attention to detail.</p>


lol</p>Speaking of.,......Mmb--When do we officially go over to the new boards? I 've got a new itiniery of avatars for you'all. Supersize avi's on v-bulletin.


no clue

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 10:51 AM
I'm still kinda hoping Osi bites the bullet and sticks around. I'm not sold on Kiwi being 100% and having a D-line with a 2nd year guy, and a rookie DT in the mix, isn't my idea of solid right now. Especially since we didn't get any LBs or anything.
after this rant???
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/divorce_nearly_certain_as_de_rips_KwAXxDp1qy67VHQz nrsLWL

"How does a guy who had one good year (no disrespect to Charles Johnson)
sign a deal and make more than both me and (Justin) Tuck combined?"
Umenyiora added in the email. "It's not right. Everyone in this business
understands that is exactly what it is. Business. And just like none of
us get upset when our teammates are released due to business decisions,
the teams also don't get upset when something like this happens."
<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">

so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.
</div>

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 10:52 AM
even so - u know we're going to take at least one

and their oline, dt, lbs, and safteys are garbage

unhappy djax and a questionable illness with maclin

Vick has a year of tape on him in reid's offense with a lack of blocking

our de is fine man. We'll be good

we're taking the division this year
i cant underestimate the eagles anymore. lol iv done it for the past3 years. i thought we would kill kolb, nope. i never thought vick would be good again. that blew up in my face, horribly. djax will get his contract. and i think their corners are going to give eli problems. ughhh ima negative nancy today.
Negative Nancy is a *****. Realistic concern based on previous historical facts is something else. The Dec 19 game vs Philly was horrible, but good in my opinion. Like the Rocky fight where Rocky lost, but he gained confidence in his ability to beat Apollo. Twice last year we should of beat the Eagles. Our day will come and it's going to be sweeeeeet

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 10:54 AM
(You realize of course that there's a thread about the new boards out there...right?)</p>


</p>


nope. didn't know. I can't read half the nonsense on these boards. call it selective attention to detail.</p>


lol</p>Speaking of.,......Mmb--When do we officially go over to the new boards? I 've got a new itiniery of avatars for you'all. Supersize avi's on v-bulletin.


no clue
You are going to hit 50k if this doesn't happen soon. I'm sorry, I have to be posting on the new board, I have been mentally preparing for this.

Remember this one? ......I am Dr. Remulack, I am Dr. Remulack, I am Dr. Remulack

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 10:55 AM
I'm still kinda hoping Osi bites the bullet and sticks around. I'm not sold on Kiwi being 100% and having a D-line with a 2nd year guy, and a rookie DT in the mix, isn't my idea of solid right now. Especially since we didn't get any LBs or anything.
after this rant???
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/divorce_nearly_certain_as_de_rips_KwAXxDp1qy67VHQz nrsLWL

"How does a guy who had one good year (no disrespect to Charles Johnson)
sign a deal and make more than both me and (Justin) Tuck combined?"
Umenyiora added in the email. "It's not right. Everyone in this business
understands that is exactly what it is. Business. And just like none of
us get upset when our teammates are released due to business decisions,
the teams also don't get upset when something like this happens."
<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">

so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.
</div>
I wanna know what the story is with giant's players using Osi's hand towel at practice?

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 10:57 AM
I'm still kinda hoping Osi bites the bullet and sticks around. I'm not sold on Kiwi being 100% and having a D-line with a 2nd year guy, and a rookie DT in the mix, isn't my idea of solid right now. Especially since we didn't get any LBs or anything.
after this rant???
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/divorce_nearly_certain_as_de_rips_KwAXxDp1qy67VHQz nrsLWL

"How does a guy who had one good year (no disrespect to Charles Johnson) sign a deal and make more than both me and (Justin) Tuck combined?" Umenyiora added in the email. "It's not right. Everyone in this business understands that is exactly what it is. Business. And just like none of us get upset when our teammates are released due to business decisions, the teams also don't get upset when something like this happens."
<DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; TEXT-ALIGN: left; TEXT-DECORATION: none">

so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.
</DIV>



</P>


I did read that yesterday.
Bottom line, he thinks he more valuable than he is, and better than he is.
Preeeeetty much goes for all athletes. Greed and a sense of entitlement. He HAS a good contract, so I don't know what his problem is. But I guess that's his perogative.

I also dont think he understands the Charles Johnson thing either. it's horse**** though that Carolina is basically inflating ALL nfl salaries by giving jobbers like johnson huge contracts just so they can spend the necessary money.
But he's ignoring the fact. He'd be better off just talking **** to johnson and the panthers lol</P>

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 10:59 AM
even so - u know we're going to take at least one

and their oline, dt, lbs, and safteys are garbage

unhappy djax and a questionable illness with maclin

Vick has a year of tape on him in reid's offense with a lack of blocking

our de is fine man. We'll be good

we're taking the division this year
i cant underestimate the eagles anymore. lol iv done it for the past3 years. i thought we would kill kolb, nope. i never thought vick would be good again. that blew up in my face, horribly. djax will get his contract. and i think their corners are going to give eli problems. ughhh ima negative nancy today.
Negative Nancy is a *****. Realistic concern based on previous historical facts is something else. The Dec 19 game vs Philly was horrible, but good in my opinion. Like the Rocky fight where Rocky lost, but he gained confidence in his ability to beat Apollo. Twice last year we should of beat the Eagles. Our day will come and it's going to be sweeeeeet
based on historical facts the eagles have owned us the last 5 meetings. lol no good will ever come from december 19th. EVER. in fact it should be prohibited to even speak of that day on the mbs.

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 10:59 AM
so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.

</P>


cuz he's making 6 mill a year. </P>

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 11:02 AM
so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.

</p>


cuz he's making 6 mill a year. </p>so is osi. maybe he just doesnt get the way the cap works.

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:03 AM
http://i.imgur.com/E711e.gif

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:04 AM
so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.

</P>


cuz he's making 6 mill a year. </P>


so is osi. maybe he just doesnt get the way the cap works.
</P>


guess Osi just assumes his stats are worth more. lol</P>

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 11:04 AM
http://i.imgur.com/E711e.giflol-I like the Nicks sig.

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 11:06 AM
so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.

</p>


cuz he's making 6 mill a year. </p>


so is osi. maybe he just doesnt get the way the cap works.
</p>


guess Osi just assumes his stats are worth more. lol</p>Say we trade Osi, right? and we get a 1st round pic. What the hell is that pic worth if Osi goes to a good team and their pic is near the end of the 1st round?

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:07 AM
so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.

</p>


cuz he's making 6 mill a year. </p>


so is osi. maybe he just doesnt get the way the cap works.
</p>


guess Osi just assumes his stats are worth more. lol</p>

Tuck is underpaid too

bigblue4417
08-02-2011, 11:07 AM
<div class="report">


The Chargers, Seahawks, Broncos, Ravens and Rams
have expressed an interest in trading for Osi Umenyiora, sources tell
the New York Daily News.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
None of these teams appear willing to meet the
Giants' asking price of a first-round pick. But if the price is dropped
to a second-rounder, the Giants may get someone to bite. The Daily News'
sources cite the Rams as the team to watch -- former Giants defensive
coordinator Steve Spagnuolo now coaching in St. Louis.
</div>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:08 AM
so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.

</p>


cuz he's making 6 mill a year. </p>


so is osi. maybe he just doesnt get the way the cap works.
</p>


guess Osi just assumes his stats are worth more. lol</p>Say we trade Osi, right? and we get a 1st round pic. What the hell is that pic worth if Osi goes to a good team and their pic is near the end of the 1st round?


who cares? We typically draft at the end of the draft and always get solid picks

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:11 AM
big names drafted at the end of the first round

2011: Mark Ingram and Jimmy Smith

2010: Dezz Bryant, Jahvid Best, Kyle Wilson

2009: Vontae Davis, Clay Matthews, Donald Brown, Hakeem Nicks, Kenny BRitt, Beanie Wells

2008: Chris Johnson, Dustin Keller, Kenny Phillips

plenty of awesome talent

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:12 AM
<div class="report">


The Chargers, Seahawks, Broncos, Ravens and Rams
have expressed an interest in trading for Osi Umenyiora, sources tell
the New York Daily News.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
None of these teams appear willing to meet the
Giants' asking price of a first-round pick. But if the price is dropped
to a second-rounder, the Giants may get someone to bite. The Daily News'
sources cite the Rams as the team to watch -- former Giants defensive
coordinator Steve Spagnuolo now coaching in St. Louis.
</div>

thats alrite as long as there is multiple teams that want him bad

thats the first step from getting TALENT back

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 11:12 AM
<div class="report">


The Chargers, Seahawks, Broncos, Ravens and Rams
have expressed an interest in trading for Osi Umenyiora, sources tell
the New York Daily News.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
None of these teams appear willing to meet the
Giants' asking price of a first-round pick. But if the price is dropped
to a second-rounder, the Giants may get someone to bite. The Daily News'
sources cite the Rams as the team to watch -- former Giants defensive
coordinator Steve Spagnuolo now coaching in St. Louis.
</div>If Osi goes rams it will be all homes consecutive 3 week games for us starting with the jets-plax, wash-cofield and rams-osi.

bigblue4417
08-02-2011, 11:12 AM
NEW YORK -- Add Kevin Durant (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3202/kevin-durant) to the list of NBA greats who have played at Harlem's Rucker Park. And put him high on the list.</p>

The reigning NBA scoring champion d***led the crowd by scoring 66 points in an Entertainers Basketball Classic game on Monday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBsLxqH-0bQ&amp;feature=player_embedded).</p>


</p>

I love that guy...
</p>

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:14 AM
lol-I like the Nicks sig.
</P>


Amanda made it last year....and then after sending it to me, said wait dont use it! i decided i wanted it!</P>


damn indian-givers. =P</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:15 AM
<div class="report">


The Chargers, Seahawks, Broncos, Ravens and Rams
have expressed an interest in trading for Osi Umenyiora, sources tell
the New York Daily News.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
None of these teams appear willing to meet the
Giants' asking price of a first-round pick. But if the price is dropped
to a second-rounder, the Giants may get someone to bite. The Daily News'
sources cite the Rams as the team to watch -- former Giants defensive
coordinator Steve Spagnuolo now coaching in St. Louis.
</div>If Osi goes rams it will be all homes consecutive 3 week games for us starting with the jets-plax, wash-cofield and rams-osi.


i think Broncos are the best bet...

giants may settle for a 2nd rounder from them...

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 11:20 AM
lol-I like the Nicks sig.
</p>


Amanda made it last year....and then after sending it to me, said wait dont use it! i decided i wanted it!</p>


damn indian-givers. =P</p>I like the one with the green in it best, I think that's Smith.

Saw this on tagf, though it was funny.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/laihovalo9/47c8af22_2c4a_c07a.jpg

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:20 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 11:21 AM
so why isnt tuck whining like a little girl too? the guy just doesnt get it.

</p>


cuz he's making 6 mill a year. </p>


so is osi. maybe he just doesnt get the way the cap works.
</p>


guess Osi just assumes his stats are worth more. lol</p>

Tuck is underpaid too
which makes osi look even more like a whinny pussified "malcontent"

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:26 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


</P>


wait wait....Miller and Carlson for Osi? is that what he means?

That would be highway robbery. Me Gusta.</P>

bigblue4417
08-02-2011, 11:28 AM
Andre Johnson dislocated a finger during Tuesday morning's practice.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y4I4oiYbRM0/SRjb1XCqFLI/AAAAAAAAAGI/1vO5bRZw7Jg/s320/Ouch.jpg

OUUUUUUUUUUUCH

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:28 AM
I like the one with the green in it best, I think that's Smith.

</P>


yea thats the smith one.

I have a decent amount of sigs, but I might have to change some soon if Osi is gone before season start=P
I have an Osi sig that JG21 made me a few years back. And my original sig which i still love, i made it myself. it's the pic of Osi sitting on top of brady from SB42. and it's all a brushed background. I love it.</P>

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 11:30 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:31 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


</p>


wait wait....Miller and Carlson for Osi? is that what he means?

That would be highway robbery. Me Gusta.</p>

why would we trade for two tight ends?

No it means CArlson and picks 4 Osi

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:32 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?


yea hes legit

not sure how good of a blocker he is though

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:32 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?
</P>


wait nevermind....I get it.</P>


Seattle wants to keep Miller so they can trade us a tight end?
nevermind...**** that noise.

For some reason I was thinking TE/LB combo. WORTH IT. But no....unless there's a first rounder involved, trading for a TE is dumb.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:34 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?
</p>


wait nevermind....I get it.</p>


Seattle wants to keep Miller so they can trade us a tight end?
nevermind...**** that noise.

For some reason I was thinking TE/LB combo. WORTH IT. But no....unless there's a first rounder involved, trading for a TE is dumb.</p>

depends what the other picks in the package are

and what is up with Kevin Boss

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 11:35 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?
</P>


wait nevermind....I get it.</P>


Seattle wants to keep Miller so they can trade us a tight end?
nevermind...**** that noise.

For some reason I was thinking TE/LB combo. WORTH IT. But no....unless there's a first rounder involved, trading for a TE is dumb.</P>


</P>


Despite yet another brain fart Pizz, I've decided not to pile on.</P>

bigblue4417
08-02-2011, 11:38 AM
Do the Giants really want to trade Osi Umenyiora (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=975)?</p>


They reportedly started trade negotiations on Monday by letting teams know they wanted a first-round pick in return (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/giants-allow-osi-umenyiora-to-seek-a-trade/). Any interested team will also have to give Umenyiora a new contract, so that trade price seems prohibitive.</p>


Two things could be at play here:</p>


1. The Giants donít really want to deal Umenyiora.</p>


2. They are just starting the negotiating off on their terms, and will be willing to accept a lesser offer.</p>


Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News says thereís no fewer than five teams (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/08/osi-gets-permission-to-seek-a-trade)
interested:St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, and Baltimore.The
level of interest for each team is unclear, although St. Louis could
reportedly be a team to watch.</p>


ESPNís Adam Schefter says it has become clear no one will give up a
first-round pick for Umenyiora, who has been watching training camp from
the sidelines. Vacchiano says the Giants wonít come off their
first-round pick asking price (at least for now) and Umenyiora is
unlikely to play for the Giants at his current salary.</p>

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:40 AM
Despite yet another brain fart Pizz, I've decided not to pile on.</P>


Truthfully, when I first read Carlson, I thought LB. so yes it was a brain fart.
I think maybe I thought Beason....having nothing to do with Carlson. fail....but at least i admitted it when i realized what i said instead of editing it! lol</P>

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 11:40 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?
</p>


wait nevermind....I get it.</p>


Seattle wants to keep Miller so they can trade us a tight end?
nevermind...**** that noise.

For some reason I was thinking TE/LB combo. WORTH IT. But no....unless there's a first rounder involved, trading for a TE is dumb.</p>id be down to trade osi for miller, not carlson

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 11:41 AM
Do the Giants really want to trade Osi Umenyiora (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=975)?</P>


They reportedly started trade negotiations on Monday by letting teams know they wanted a first-round pick in return (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/giants-allow-osi-umenyiora-to-seek-a-trade/). Any interested team will also have to give Umenyiora a new contract, so that trade price seems prohibitive.</P>


Two things could be at play here:</P>


1. The Giants donít really want to deal Umenyiora.</P>


2. They are just starting the negotiating off on their terms, and will be willing to accept a lesser offer.</P>


Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News says thereís no fewer than five teams (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/08/osi-gets-permission-to-seek-a-trade) interested:St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, and Baltimore.The level of interest for each team is unclear, although St. Louis could reportedly be a team to watch.</P>


ESPNís Adam Schefter says it has become clear no one will give up a first-round pick for Umenyiora, who has been watching training camp from the sidelines. Vacchiano says the Giants wonít come off their first-round pick asking price (at least for now) and Umenyiora is unlikely to play for the Giants at his current salary.</P>


</P>


They know that they already paid for Osi to play the next two years with his front loaded contract. This is the deal Osi made. he agreed to take less in the last two years to get so much money early in the contract. He's a malcontent ****head.</P>


Do you think he'd be yelling about "fairness" if the Giants asked for the millions he made in 08 for not playing?</P>


Me neither.</P>

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 11:42 AM
I like the one with the green in it best, I think that's Smith.

</p>


yea thats the smith one.

I have a decent amount of sigs, but I might have to change some soon if Osi is gone before season start=P
I have an Osi sig that JG21 made me a few years back. And my original sig which i still love, i made it myself. it's the pic of Osi sitting on top of brady from SB42. and it's all a brushed background. I love it.</p>I have a signed pic of Osi sitting on top of Romo.....and I think Romo was loving it. lol

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 11:43 AM
Despite yet another brain fart Pizz, I've decided not to pile on.</P>


Truthfully, when I first read Carlson, I thought LB. so yes it was a brain fart.
I think maybe I thought Beason....having nothing to do with Carlson. fail....but at least i admitted it when i realized what i said instead of editing it! lol</P>


</P>


These things tend to come in three's. One more to go.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:44 AM
Do the Giants really want to trade Osi Umenyiora (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=975)?</p>


They reportedly started trade negotiations on Monday by letting teams know they wanted a first-round pick in return (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/giants-allow-osi-umenyiora-to-seek-a-trade/). Any interested team will also have to give Umenyiora a new contract, so that trade price seems prohibitive.</p>


Two things could be at play here:</p>


1. The Giants donít really want to deal Umenyiora.</p>


2. They are just starting the negotiating off on their terms, and will be willing to accept a lesser offer.</p>


Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News says thereís no fewer than five teams (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/08/osi-gets-permission-to-seek-a-trade)
interested:St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, and Baltimore.The
level of interest for each team is unclear, although St. Louis could
reportedly be a team to watch.</p>


ESPNís Adam Schefter says it has become clear no one will give up a
first-round pick for Umenyiora, who has been watching training camp from
the sidelines. Vacchiano says the Giants wonít come off their
first-round pick asking price (at least for now) and Umenyiora is
unlikely to play for the Giants at his current salary.</p>

i dont think we want to trade him this year. We got him at a good value and we had a hard offseason due to the cap. But iof we get a first rounder we have to do it.

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 11:44 AM
Pats just sent me autagraphed cards for Ronnie Francis (as a Whaler) and Bill Lee.</P>


I think he has earned an "Old Guns" T shirt.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:45 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?
</p>


wait nevermind....I get it.</p>


Seattle wants to keep Miller so they can trade us a tight end?
nevermind...**** that noise.

For some reason I was thinking TE/LB combo. WORTH IT. But no....unless there's a first rounder involved, trading for a TE is dumb.</p>id be down to trade osi for miller, not carlson


Miller is a mediocre at best TE

Carlson has been referred to as a complete TE

hes younger and less expensive. Carlson would be a better fit for us

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 11:45 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?
</p>


wait nevermind....I get it.</p>


Seattle wants to keep Miller so they can trade us a tight end?
nevermind...**** that noise.

For some reason I was thinking TE/LB combo. WORTH IT. But no....unless there's a first rounder involved, trading for a TE is dumb.</p>

depends what the other picks in the package are

and what is up with Kevin Boss
Idk about Boss, but I heard Ben Patrick(arizona) was dropping Eli passes at practice.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:46 AM
Pats just sent me autagraphed cards for Ronnie Francis (as a Whaler) and Bill Lee.</p>


I think he has earned an "Old Guns" T shirt.</p>

im not talking to u anymore

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 11:46 AM
Do the Giants really want to trade Osi Umenyiora (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=975)?</P>


They reportedly started trade negotiations on Monday by letting teams know they wanted a first-round pick in return (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/giants-allow-osi-umenyiora-to-seek-a-trade/). Any interested team will also have to give Umenyiora a new contract, so that trade price seems prohibitive.</P>


Two things could be at play here:</P>


1. The Giants donít really want to deal Umenyiora.</P>


2. They are just starting the negotiating off on their terms, and will be willing to accept a lesser offer.</P>


Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News says thereís no fewer than five teams (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/08/osi-gets-permission-to-seek-a-trade) interested:St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, and Baltimore.The level of interest for each team is unclear, although St. Louis could reportedly be a team to watch.</P>


ESPNís Adam Schefter says it has become clear no one will give up a first-round pick for Umenyiora, who has been watching training camp from the sidelines. Vacchiano says the Giants wonít come off their first-round pick asking price (at least for now) and Umenyiora is unlikely to play for the Giants at his current salary.</P>




i dont think we want to trade him this year. We got him at a good value and we had a hard offseason due to the cap. But iof we get a first rounder we have to do it.


</P>


It may be an exercise to show Osi that he's not as coveted as he thinks.</P>


"Sorry Osi, we tried....not shut the **** up and play you malcontent piece of ****!!!".....JR</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:47 AM
Adam Scheins conspiracy theory:


Seattle is signing Zach Miller so that they can trade Carlson in a package to NY for Osi


Is Carlson any good?
</p>


wait nevermind....I get it.</p>


Seattle wants to keep Miller so they can trade us a tight end?
nevermind...**** that noise.

For some reason I was thinking TE/LB combo. WORTH IT. But no....unless there's a first rounder involved, trading for a TE is dumb.</p>

depends what the other picks in the package are

and what is up with Kevin Boss
Idk about Boss, but I heard Ben Patrick(arizona) was dropping Eli passes at practice.


I dont think Patrick even practiced yesterday so i dont know where u got tha tfrom

but Patrick is there to compete for the backup spot - aka BECKUMS spot

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 11:47 AM
Pats just sent me autagraphed cards for Ronnie Francis (as a Whaler) and Bill Lee.</P>


I think he has earned an "Old Guns" T shirt.</P>




im not talking to u anymore
</P>


In time my friend. We have to place the next order when we get the list ready.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 11:48 AM
Do the Giants really want to trade Osi Umenyiora (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=975)?</p>


They reportedly started trade negotiations on Monday by letting teams know they wanted a first-round pick in return (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/giants-allow-osi-umenyiora-to-seek-a-trade/). Any interested team will also have to give Umenyiora a new contract, so that trade price seems prohibitive.</p>


Two things could be at play here:</p>


1. The Giants donít really want to deal Umenyiora.</p>


2. They are just starting the negotiating off on their terms, and will be willing to accept a lesser offer.</p>


Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News says thereís no fewer than five teams (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/08/osi-gets-permission-to-seek-a-trade) interested:St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, and Baltimore.The level of interest for each team is unclear, although St. Louis could reportedly be a team to watch.</p>


ESPNís Adam Schefter says it has become clear no one will give up a first-round pick for Umenyiora, who has been watching training camp from the sidelines. Vacchiano says the Giants wonít come off their first-round pick asking price (at least for now) and Umenyiora is unlikely to play for the Giants at his current salary.</p>




i dont think we want to trade him this year. We got him at a good value and we had a hard offseason due to the cap. But iof we get a first rounder we have to do it.


</p>


It may be an exercise to show Osi that he's not as coveted as he thinks.</p>


"Sorry Osi, we tried....not shut the **** up and play you malcontent piece of ****!!!".....JR</p>

yea i really don't think thats how its working. I dont think people sayings to Osi "Yea we'll pay you, but we can't pay u and give a first rounder up for you" is going to help the situation

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:52 AM
Do the Giants really want to trade Osi Umenyiora (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=975)?</P>


They reportedly started trade negotiations on Monday by letting teams know they wanted a first-round pick in return (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/giants-allow-osi-umenyiora-to-seek-a-trade/). Any interested team will also have to give Umenyiora a new contract, so that trade price seems prohibitive.</P>


Two things could be at play here:</P>


1. The Giants donít really want to deal Umenyiora.</P>


2. They are just starting the negotiating off on their terms, and will be willing to accept a lesser offer.</P>


Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News says thereís no fewer than five teams (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/08/osi-gets-permission-to-seek-a-trade) interested:St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, and Baltimore.The level of interest for each team is unclear, although St. Louis could reportedly be a team to watch.</P>


ESPNís Adam Schefter says it has become clear no one will give up a first-round pick for Umenyiora, who has been watching training camp from the sidelines. Vacchiano says the Giants wonít come off their first-round pick asking price (at least for now) and Umenyiora is unlikely to play for the Giants at his current salary.</P>


</P>


in short.....Nobody is making this simple.</P>


lol</P>

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 11:54 AM
Do the Giants really want to trade Osi Umenyiora (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=975)?</P>


They reportedly started trade negotiations on Monday by letting teams know they wanted a first-round pick in return (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/giants-allow-osi-umenyiora-to-seek-a-trade/). Any interested team will also have to give Umenyiora a new contract, so that trade price seems prohibitive.</P>


Two things could be at play here:</P>


1. The Giants donít really want to deal Umenyiora.</P>


2. They are just starting the negotiating off on their terms, and will be willing to accept a lesser offer.</P>


Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News says thereís no fewer than five teams (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/08/osi-gets-permission-to-seek-a-trade) interested:St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, and Baltimore.The level of interest for each team is unclear, although St. Louis could reportedly be a team to watch.</P>


ESPNís Adam Schefter says it has become clear no one will give up a first-round pick for Umenyiora, who has been watching training camp from the sidelines. Vacchiano says the Giants wonít come off their first-round pick asking price (at least for now) and Umenyiora is unlikely to play for the Giants at his current salary.</P>


</P>


in short.....Nobody is making this simple.</P>


lol</P>


</P>


Maybe JR should ask Osi which of his teammates should be cut to make room for his new contract under the cap.</P>

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 11:55 AM
Pats just sent me autagraphed cards for Ronnie Francis (as a Whaler) and Bill Lee.</p>


I think he has earned an "Old Guns" T shirt.</p>I like how you slipped that in there. As I said , I would like a shirt to commemmorate your new group. "look I'll pay you for it, wtf": VAN HALEN.

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 11:58 AM
Pats just sent me autagraphed cards for Ronnie Francis (as a Whaler) and Bill Lee.</P>


I think he has earned an "Old Guns" T shirt.</P>




im not talking to u anymore
</P>


In time my friend. We have to place the next order when we get the list ready.</P>


</P>


I dont even know what it looks like, but I want one.
I will wear it to all the nickelback concerts I go to.</P>


lolololololololololololol</P>

Morehead State
08-02-2011, 11:59 AM
Pats just sent me autagraphed cards for Ronnie Francis (as a Whaler) and Bill Lee.</P>


I think he has earned an "Old Guns" T shirt.</P>


I like how you slipped that in there. As I said , I would like a shirt to commemmorate your new group. "look I'll pay you for it, wtf": VAN HALEN.
</P>


I have you down for a XXL, LT. We will probably place a new order in a week or so.</P>


They're worth the wait. You'll be the only kid on your block with one.</P>

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 12:01 PM
Do the Giants really want to trade Osi Umenyiora (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=975)?</p>


They reportedly started trade negotiations on Monday by letting teams know they wanted a first-round pick in return (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/giants-allow-osi-umenyiora-to-seek-a-trade/). Any interested team will also have to give Umenyiora a new contract, so that trade price seems prohibitive.</p>


Two things could be at play here:</p>


1. The Giants donít really want to deal Umenyiora.</p>


2. They are just starting the negotiating off on their terms, and will be willing to accept a lesser offer.</p>


Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News says thereís no fewer than five teams (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2011/08/osi-gets-permission-to-seek-a-trade) interested:St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, and Baltimore.The level of interest for each team is unclear, although St. Louis could reportedly be a team to watch.</p>


ESPNís Adam Schefter says it has become clear no one will give up a first-round pick for Umenyiora, who has been watching training camp from the sidelines. Vacchiano says the Giants wonít come off their first-round pick asking price (at least for now) and Umenyiora is unlikely to play for the Giants at his current salary.</p>


</p>


in short.....Nobody is making this simple.</p>


lol</p>


</p>


Maybe JR should ask Osi which of his teammates should be cut to make room for his new contract under the cap.</p>every now and then you drop a gem. this is one of them.

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 12:02 PM
Pats just sent me autagraphed cards for Ronnie Francis (as a Whaler) and Bill Lee.</p>


I think he has earned an "Old Guns" T shirt.</p>


I like how you slipped that in there. As I said , I would like a shirt to commemmorate your new group. "look I'll pay you for it, wtf": VAN HALEN.
</p>


I have you down for a XXL, LT. We will probably place a new order in a week or so.</p>


They're worth the wait. You'll be the only kid on your block with one.</p>Thank you sincerely Good Sir.

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 12:02 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.

bigblue4417
08-02-2011, 12:31 PM
<div class="report">


Giants agreed to terms with WR Michael Clayton.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Yes, this is the same Michael Clayton that starred
for the Bucs as a rookie in 2004 and then bottomed out in the UFL last
year. He did appear in six games for the Giants at the end of last
season, catching two balls. But we don't expect him to be much more than
a camp body, even if free agent Steve Smith isn't retained.
</div>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 12:34 PM
<div class="report">


Giants agreed to terms with WR Michael Clayton.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Yes, this is the same Michael Clayton that starred
for the Bucs as a rookie in 2004 and then bottomed out in the UFL last
year. He did appear in six games for the Giants at the end of last
season, catching two balls. But we don't expect him to be much more than
a camp body, even if free agent Steve Smith isn't retained.
</div>

good ST guy

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 12:50 PM
This week is going to drag...I can tell.</P>

bigblue4417
08-02-2011, 12:54 PM
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/08/01/0801-melissa-molinaro-wi-credit.jpg

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 12:58 PM
This week is going to drag...I can tell.</p>least you dont work 6 days a week.

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 12:59 PM
Some of us are at work Lando.....not appropriate!!!

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 01:08 PM
This week is going to drag...I can tell.</P>


least you dont work 6 days a week.
</P>


I do....but not every week.

</P>

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:11 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:13 PM
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/08/01/0801-melissa-molinaro-wi-credit.jpgThe tranny behind her to the left is hilarious. She's a tight unit.

Thanks

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:19 PM
This week is going to drag...I can tell.</p>I am unusually busy for a traditionally slow month last week and this week.

How was the pool this weekend? Where is the video from the custom dive competition?

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 01:20 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</P>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:21 PM
This week is going to drag...I can tell.</p>

i been TAGF it up

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:22 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>

we used to have a name for kids that watched babbar....









future homos

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 01:24 PM
This week is going to drag...I can tell.</P>


I am unusually busy for a traditionally slow month last week and this week.

How was the pool this weekend? Where is the video from the custom dive competition?
</P>


haha no video, its just not funny on a video! only pictures of leisure diving is funny.
I forgot about that. I will try to remember to to post the picture of my fat *** diving in the pool, liesure style.</P>

bigblue4417
08-02-2011, 01:26 PM
Some of us are at work Lando.....not appropriate!!!
Yeah, like me. lol

My bad Pizz, it's no worse than the nooner...

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 01:26 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</P>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</P>




we used to have a name for kids that watched babbar....









future homos
</P>


thank you for judging 4 year olds.....</P>

shocknaweny
08-02-2011, 01:27 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
</P>


I felt like Reese asked for a 1st rounder as a way to make Osi feel valuable lol.
I still think he'll end up a Giant this year. There's not much the Giants can do if he wants to leave, but we can't a reasonable offer. I'm totally against trading players "just because" and not getting any value in return. Regardless of what a player wants.</P>




na i think he asked for a 1st rounder because he'd be stupid to give him up for less

bottom line look at what Jared Allen got for when the Vikings traded for him and look at the ripoff the Eagles pulled on the Cardinals

a first rounder is what it will take. OR something equivalent

gotta do what we gotta do. If we dont' get what we want then at the end of the day he has no leverage
</P>


</P>


didn't the Skins give a 2nd rounder for old *** Jason Taylor to get him from Miami back in '09...n' there picks are higher cause they stink....dunno why people say we won't get a first round pick for umenyiora...he is worth @ least that for a team like the Falcons or Jaguars...</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:28 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>




we used to have a name for kids that watched babbar....









future homos
</p>


thank you for judging 4 year olds.....</p>

even as 4 year old we could tell who the fruit of the looms would be...

and im not talkin underwear

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:28 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>lol-When I was watching cartoons, there was no cable or HBO.

How could that be though, I'm not old?

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:30 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>




we used to have a name for kids that watched babbar....









future homos
</p>


thank you for judging 4 year olds.....</p>

even as 4 year old we could tell who the fruit of the looms would be...

and im not talkin underwear


Literally laughed out loud.....oh man.

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 01:34 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>lol yuup

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:35 PM
Some of us are at work Lando.....not appropriate!!!
Yeah, like me. lol

My bad Pizz, it's no worse than the nooner...
Out of respect to Amanda, did not think it appropriate, Friday 7/29 Nooner was aborted. Sorry for the Delay.

http://www.americancurvesmag.com/nooner/images/BrittanyTacy.jpg

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:36 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
</p>


I felt like Reese asked for a 1st rounder as a way to make Osi feel valuable lol.
I still think he'll end up a Giant this year. There's not much the Giants can do if he wants to leave, but we can't a reasonable offer. I'm totally against trading players "just because" and not getting any value in return. Regardless of what a player wants.</p>




na i think he asked for a 1st rounder because he'd be stupid to give him up for less

bottom line look at what Jared Allen got for when the Vikings traded for him and look at the ripoff the Eagles pulled on the Cardinals

a first rounder is what it will take. OR something equivalent

gotta do what we gotta do. If we dont' get what we want then at the end of the day he has no leverage
</p>


</p>


didn't the Skins give a 2nd rounder for old *** Jason Taylor to get him from Miami back in '09...n' there picks are higher cause they stink....dunno why people say we won't get a first round pick for umenyiora...he is worth @ least that for a team like the Falcons or Jaguars...</p>Yep, think so, Taylor went miami, skins, jets, right?

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 01:37 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</P>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</P>


lol-When I was watching cartoons, there was no cable or HBO.

How could that be though, I'm not old?
</P>


I dont know! For some reason we always had HBO when I was a kid, but my parents never saw it on a bill....what i DO know though, is that I was 12 years old, staying up late watching RealSex 4
lol</P>

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 01:37 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>




we used to have a name for kids that watched babbar....









future homos
</p>


thank you for judging 4 year olds.....</p>

even as 4 year old we could tell who the fruit of the looms would be...

and im not talkin underwear


lmao. i never herd of babbar. what was it?

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:42 PM
Some of us are at work Lando.....not appropriate!!!
Yeah, like me. lol

My bad Pizz, it's no worse than the nooner...
Out of respect to Amanda, did not think it appropriate, Friday 7/29 Nooner was aborted. Sorry for the Delay.


You do what u gotta do and keep trucking

shes a big girl, she can handle it

she will call u a pig and go on with the rest of her day

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:43 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>


lol-When I was watching cartoons, there was no cable or HBO.

How could that be though, I'm not old?
</p>


I dont know! For some reason we always had HBO when I was a kid, but my parents never saw it on a bill....what i DO know though, is that I was 12 years old, staying up late watching RealSex 4
lol</p>


lol nmy parents and my grandma had the illegal box.. i was winning as a kid

shocknaweny
08-02-2011, 01:45 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
</P>


I felt like Reese asked for a 1st rounder as a way to make Osi feel valuable lol.
I still think he'll end up a Giant this year. There's not much the Giants can do if he wants to leave, but we can't a reasonable offer. I'm totally against trading players "just because" and not getting any value in return. Regardless of what a player wants.</P>




na i think he asked for a 1st rounder because he'd be stupid to give him up for less

bottom line look at what Jared Allen got for when the Vikings traded for him and look at the ripoff the Eagles pulled on the Cardinals

a first rounder is what it will take. OR something equivalent

gotta do what we gotta do. If we dont' get what we want then at the end of the day he has no leverage
</P>


</P>


didn't the Skins give a 2nd rounder for old *** Jason Taylor to get him from Miami back in '09...n' there picks are higher cause they stink....dunno why people say we won't get a first round pick for umenyiora...he is worth @ least that for a team like the Falcons or Jaguars...</P>


Yep, think so, Taylor went miami, skins, jets, right?
</P>


</P>


yuppers....n' he was old as **** when the Skins got him....Played on the team with Dan marino for God's sake ...Osi was drafted in '03 and is @ the Prime of his career....probably got 5 years left of high performance.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:48 PM
Cowboys going after Leron McClain

Adam Schein hates it but i think its a great move for them

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:49 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>




we used to have a name for kids that watched babbar....









future homos
</p>


thank you for judging 4 year olds.....</p>

even as 4 year old we could tell who the fruit of the looms would be...

and im not talkin underwear


lmao. i never herd of babbar. what was it?


an elephant royalty show

i remember trying to watch it

and falling back to sleep before school

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:49 PM
This week is going to drag...I can tell.</p>


I am unusually busy for a traditionally slow month last week and this week.

How was the pool this weekend? Where is the video from the custom dive competition?
</p>


haha no video, its just not funny on a video! only pictures of leisure diving is funny.
I forgot about that. I will try to remember to to post the picture of my fat *** diving in the pool, liesure style.</p>Don't forget about us. I'm sure that pic will speed up a slow week. lol.

shocknaweny
08-02-2011, 01:49 PM
did we do the draft order ....can someone post it...I missed it.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:50 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
</p>


I felt like Reese asked for a 1st rounder as a way to make Osi feel valuable lol.
I still think he'll end up a Giant this year. There's not much the Giants can do if he wants to leave, but we can't a reasonable offer. I'm totally against trading players "just because" and not getting any value in return. Regardless of what a player wants.</p>




na i think he asked for a 1st rounder because he'd be stupid to give him up for less

bottom line look at what Jared Allen got for when the Vikings traded for him and look at the ripoff the Eagles pulled on the Cardinals

a first rounder is what it will take. OR something equivalent

gotta do what we gotta do. If we dont' get what we want then at the end of the day he has no leverage
</p>


</p>


didn't the Skins give a 2nd rounder for old *** Jason Taylor to get him from Miami back in '09...n' there picks are higher cause they stink....dunno why people say we won't get a first round pick for umenyiora...he is worth @ least that for a team like the Falcons or Jaguars...</p>


Yep, think so, Taylor went miami, skins, jets, right?
</p>


</p>


yuppers....n' he was old as **** when the Skins got him....Played on the team with Dan marino for God's sake ...Osi was drafted in '03 and is @ the Prime of his career....probably got 5 years left of high performance.</p>

you like your pick lol

12th

we save the canucks for last lol

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:50 PM
did we do the draft order ....can someone post it...I missed it.

yea ur 12

bandwgn86
08-02-2011, 01:54 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder.* He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
</p>


I felt like Reese asked for a 1st rounder as a way to make Osi feel valuable lol.
I still think he'll end up a Giant this year. There's not much the Giants can do if he wants to leave, but we can't a reasonable offer. I'm totally against trading players "just because" and not getting any value in return. Regardless of what a player wants.</p>




na i think he asked for a 1st rounder because he'd be stupid to give him up for less

bottom line look at what Jared Allen got for when the Vikings traded for him and look at the ripoff the Eagles pulled on* the Cardinals

a first rounder is what it will take. OR something equivalent

gotta do what we gotta do. If we dont' get what we want then at the end of the day he has no leverage
</p>


*</p>


didn't the Skins give a 2nd rounder for old *** Jason Taylor to get him from Miami back in '09...n' there picks are higher cause they stink....dunno why people say we won't get a first round pick for umenyiora...he is worth @ least that for a team like the Falcons or Jaguars...</p>


Yep, think so, Taylor went miami, skins, jets, right?
</p>


*</p>


yuppers....n' he was old as **** when the Skins got him....Played on the team with Dan marino for God's sake ...Osi was drafted in '03 and is @ the Prime of his career....probably got 5 years left of high performance.</p>

you like your pick lol

12th

we save the Canucks for last lol
we understand.. you need every advantage possible

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 01:54 PM
Don't forget about us. I'm sure that pic will speed up a slow week. lol.


I wish I remembered to do more liesure diving this past weekend, but my littlebrother wasn't home, and he's the only one who can use those newfangled Digital SLR camera that my mother spent far too much money on for him....and his lack of photography schooling because he's a waste of life. Wow that turned into a rant quickly =P

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:55 PM
Some of us are at work Lando.....not appropriate!!!
Yeah, like me. lol

My bad Pizz, it's no worse than the nooner...
Out of respect to Amanda, did not think it appropriate, Friday 7/29 Nooner was aborted. Sorry for the Delay.


You do what u gotta do and keep trucking

shes a big girl, she can handle it

she will call u a pig and go on with the rest of her day
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do
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MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 01:57 PM
i dont think he'll necessarily be happy - but I think if he ends up with the Giants it will be because he won't get the money offer he wants from other places and/or nobody will think hes worth a 1st rounder. He'll have another year of a chip on his shoulder and a team that could be geared for a superbowl run...

But there are already rumors that his hip is banged up again

I hope to god we can get a 1st rounder for him to be honest...

sucks Taylor signe,d he would of been a nice band aid
</p>


I felt like Reese asked for a 1st rounder as a way to make Osi feel valuable lol.
I still think he'll end up a Giant this year. There's not much the Giants can do if he wants to leave, but we can't a reasonable offer. I'm totally against trading players "just because" and not getting any value in return. Regardless of what a player wants.</p>




na i think he asked for a 1st rounder because he'd be stupid to give him up for less

bottom line look at what Jared Allen got for when the Vikings traded for him and look at the ripoff the Eagles pulled on the Cardinals

a first rounder is what it will take. OR something equivalent

gotta do what we gotta do. If we dont' get what we want then at the end of the day he has no leverage
</p>


</p>


didn't the Skins give a 2nd rounder for old *** Jason Taylor to get him from Miami back in '09...n' there picks are higher cause they stink....dunno why people say we won't get a first round pick for umenyiora...he is worth @ least that for a team like the Falcons or Jaguars...</p>


Yep, think so, Taylor went miami, skins, jets, right?
</p>


</p>


yuppers....n' he was old as **** when the Skins got him....Played on the team with Dan marino for God's sake ...Osi was drafted in '03 and is @ the Prime of his career....probably got 5 years left of high performance.</p>

you like your pick lol

12th

we save the Canucks for last lol
we understand.. you need every advantage possible

i'm at the 6 spot

i'll trade with him

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 01:59 PM
Don't forget about us. I'm sure that pic will speed up a slow week. lol.


I wish I remembered to do more liesure diving this past weekend, but my littlebrother wasn't home, and he's the only one who can use those newfangled Digital SLR camera that my mother spent far too much money on for him....and his lack of photography schooling because he's a waste of life. Wow that turned into a rant quickly =P

I'll bet that camera would take awesome pics of the Giants Game? Two of my friends have nice camera's with the telescopic lens that they bring to the games. There are limitations on the lens size in order to get thru the gates at the stadium-cause they don't want you to have better pics than the pro's. NFL is copyrighted anyway, so I never understood that. Some of their pics are so freaking awesome, I'll tell ya. I have been meaning to get a nice camera for a few years now. I am making a committment to have one for the 2012 season.

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 02:02 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
</p>


TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>


lol-When I was watching cartoons, there was no cable or HBO.

How could that be though, I'm not old?
</p>


I dont know! For some reason we always had HBO when I was a kid, but my parents never saw it on a bill....what i DO know though, is that I was 12 years old, staying up late watching RealSex 4
lol</p>some very crazy **** on that show-Rex Ryan &amp; Wife are in an upcoming epi.

JPizzack
08-02-2011, 02:03 PM
Don't forget about us. I'm sure that pic will speed up a slow week. lol.


I wish I remembered to do more liesure diving this past weekend, but my littlebrother wasn't home, and he's the only one who can use those newfangled Digital SLR camera that my mother spent far too much money on for him....and his lack of photography schooling because he's a waste of life. Wow that turned into a rant quickly =P

I'll bet that camera would take awesome pics of the Giants Game? Two of my friends have nice camera's with the telescopic lens that they bring to the games. There are limitations on the lens size in order to get thru the gates at the stadium-cause they don't want you to have better pics than the pro's. NFL is copyrighted anyway, so I never understood that. Some of their pics are so freaking awesome, I'll tell ya. I have been meaning to get a nice camera for a few years now. I am making a committment to have one for the 2012 season.
</P>


Yea I'm sure if they were close enough it could catch some great shots.
my brother, and also my roommate are huge into photography. I know you dont have facebook, but some of the shots ive been tagged in on facebook from my buddyis some real pro-lookin ****. like the lighting, and just overall resolution...everything. excellent.
I'll remember to post the pic he took of me "blowing out my birthday candles" which is basically me stretching in preperation of chugging 28 cups of beer that were placed on my beer pong table &gt;.&lt; lmao</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2011, 02:03 PM
anybody in the draft i am looking to trade draft positions

i dislike the 6 spot and am lookint to trade up or down - doesn't matter

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 02:07 PM
Don't forget about us. I'm sure that pic will speed up a slow week. lol.


I wish I remembered to do more liesure diving this past weekend, but my littlebrother wasn't home, and he's the only one who can use those newfangled Digital SLR camera that my mother spent far too much money on for him....and his lack of photography schooling because he's a waste of life. Wow that turned into a rant quickly =P

I'll bet that camera would take awesome pics of the Giants Game? Two of my friends have nice camera's with the telescopic lens that they bring to the games. There are limitations on the lens size in order to get thru the gates at the stadium-cause they don't want you to have better pics than the pro's. NFL is copyrighted anyway, so I never understood that. Some of their pics are so freaking awesome, I'll tell ya. I have been meaning to get a nice camera for a few years now. I am making a committment to have one for the 2012 season.
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Yea I'm sure if they were close enough it could catch some great shots.
my brother, and also my roommate are huge into photography. I know you dont have facebook, but some of the shots ive been tagged in on facebook from my buddyis some real pro-lookin ****. like the lighting, and just overall resolution...everything. excellent.
I'll remember to post the pic he took of me "blowing out my birthday candles" which is basically me stretching in preperation of chugging 28 cups of beer that were placed on my beer pong table &gt;.&lt; lmao</p>We call that Sports Photography LOL. That camera sounds nice.

lttaylor56
08-02-2011, 02:07 PM
anybody in the draft i am looking to trade draft positions

i dislike the 6 spot and am lookint to trade up or down - doesn't matter
Scoring sys is going to remain as is in Fantasy league?

dezzzR
08-02-2011, 02:09 PM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1185253p1.html

the adventures of tin tin movie!?!?! wow that takes me back.
I don't remember a tin-tin. Rin-tin-tin the dog , I remember.
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TinTin was on HBO morning cartoons I think, right? And Babbar? lol</p>




we used to have a name for kids that watched babbar....









future homos
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thank you for judging 4 year olds.....</p>

even as 4 year old we could tell who the fruit of the looms would be...

and im not talkin underwear


lmao. i never herd of babbar. what was it?


an elephant royalty show

i remember trying to watch it

and falling back to sleep before school
ohhhhh yeaaaaaaaa lmao holy ****. i used to see it after tin tin but never really watched hahaha

bandwgn86
08-02-2011, 02:11 PM
Bad Randy unretires by week 2,my guess.

imagine if that guy had Jerry Rice's mentality.

only 11 wr's ever scored 17 td's in a season 3 times were by him lol

shocknaweny
08-02-2011, 02:12 PM
did we do the draft order ....can someone post it...I missed it.

yea ur 12
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