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MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 01:13 PM
well first off i not commish

secondly it is horrible when for years offers have been thrown around and nobody ever objected it

and thirdly even more horrible when he was contemplating a trade with me, then all of a sudden cuz it didn't go thru he had a problem with it


#1) not in name, but you kinda are :P

#2) offers have been thrown around, but it's never actually happened....this time it did...hence the vote at this time.

#3) I don't know what your talking about here.


even if it never happedn, u dont think if it was something that was an issue that once hearing it somebody would say, no way u can't do that

Me and lando were talking about trading draft positions, it just didn't happen. So i get a trade wtih S&A and all of a sudden he is against it?

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 01:14 PM
lol thank you daven, judge judy is making work go fast.

shocknaweny
08-03-2011, 01:18 PM
first u cry

then u say ur not coming to THEE game

what am i suppose to think of u anymore?
Have we decided on THEE game yet???


OCt 16th Bills

but Lando is being a ***** and not coming for my birthday
The Bills?!?!?!

Who voted on this one, is it on your bday Matt??
</P>


</P>


I think Oct.16th is a good one....any division games would be to $$$ this one should not be to bad....</P>

JPizzack
08-03-2011, 01:20 PM
this comic is for Matt (http://i.imgur.com/FBtLr.jpg)</P>


=]</P>

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:26 PM
fantasy kills this place.
soooo, whos been watching shark week...........


actually fantasyt has kept this place booming

go kill another hooker so we have something to talk about
lol

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:30 PM
fantasy kills this place.
soooo, whos been watching shark week...........
</p>


you mean terrible reanactment week?</p>




yea i never watch shark week and blondie threw it on last night to try and get me into it

and it was like a re-enactment short movie type thing and it was absolute putrid
</p>


Yea i feel like they thought that they shouldnt show the same things over and over every year, so they tried to do these reanactments or something in order to not recycle material....but to be honest. it's utter ****.
I wont watch anymore. i rather literally watch the same stuff every year....REAL footage. or even documentaries on sharks are better.</p>I just remembered last night that it was on. I mentioned it to my little guy. He's not so little anymore-135lbs and 4'10", like a fireplug. Too bad this one has no interest in lifting, he would be a huge bencher. Anyway, there's not that much new stuff on Shark week, but the kids love it. The great white's breaching out of the water by seal Island is freaking cool.

How about curb your enthusiasm? The Shark producer dude, taking over the cabinet and then the kitchen in larry's office suite. lol.

ny06
08-03-2011, 01:32 PM
<SPAN class=status-body><SPAN class=status-content><FONT color=#980001>MikeGarafolo</FONT> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <SPAN class=actions>
<DIV><A id=status_star_98807313388945408 class="fav-action non-fav" title="favorite this tweet"></A></DIV></SPAN><SPAN class=entry-content>BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <FONT color=#980001>nj.com/giants/index.s</FONT> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <FONT color=#980001>#nyg</FONT> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN class="meta entry-meta"><SPAN class="published timestamp"><FONT color=#980001>half a minute ago</FONT></SPAN> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <SPAN>via <FONT color=#980001>Twitter for iPhone</FONT> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN>

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:32 PM
first u cry

then u say ur not coming to THEE game

what am i suppose to think of u anymore?
Have we decided on THEE game yet???


OCt 16th Bills

but Lando is being a ***** and not coming for my birthday
The Bills?!?!?!

Who voted on this one, is it on your bday Matt??
</p>


</p>


I think Oct.16th is a good one....any division games would be to $$$ this one should not be to bad....</p>You just reminded me, so 10/16 is thee date? Matt's Birthday? Why is it always about Matt?

DavenIII
08-03-2011, 01:32 PM
This isn't from reddit, or failbook or anything....this is from my own facebook...I never thought I'd get to see one of these.

http://i.imgur.com/IfQjq.png

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:33 PM
<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><font color="#980001">MikeGarafolo</font> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <span class="actions">
<div><a id="status_star_98807313388945408" class="fav-action non-fav" title="favorite this tweet"></a></div></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>Now we're punishing Osi?

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 01:34 PM
<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><font color="#980001">MikeGarafolo</font> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <span class="actions">
<div><a id="status_star_98807313388945408" class="fav-action non-fav" title="favorite this tweet"></a></div></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>

WOWWWW

wtf does that mean

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:36 PM
This isn't from reddit, or failbook or anything....this is from my own facebook...I never thought I'd get to see one of these.

http://i.imgur.com/IfQjq.png
I like the white dress on the moreno. Why did she call you a jerk, she must lack a sense of humour?

DavenIII
08-03-2011, 01:39 PM
This isn't from reddit, or failbook or anything....this is from my own facebook...I never thought I'd get to see one of these.


I like the white dress on the moreno. Why did she call you a jerk, she must lack a sense of humour?


I rent a room to her actually, she's very head strong, she actually doesn't realize she made a mistake...she's been yelling at me through texts for the last 20 minutes...I sent back..."sorry didn't mean any disrespect I just thought it was funny" (1 text) and she told me to stop texting her about the topic lol.

whatever...it's funny.

JPizzack
08-03-2011, 01:40 PM
<SPAN class=status-body><SPAN class=status-content><FONT color=#980001>MikeGarafolo</FONT> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <SPAN class=actions>
<DIV><A class="fav-action non-fav" id=status_star_98807313388945408 title="favorite this tweet"></A></DIV>


</SPAN><SPAN class=entry-content>BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <FONT color=#980001>nj.com/giants/index.s</FONT> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <FONT color=#980001>#nyg</FONT> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN class="meta entry-meta"><SPAN class="published timestamp"><FONT color=#980001>half a minute ago</FONT></SPAN> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <SPAN>via <FONT color=#980001>Twitter for iPhone</FONT> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN>Now we're punishing Osi?
</P>


I see it as more of a reminder to him that he has no power in this ordeal. by not playing, he's making his value worse...so.... CHOOSE WISELY!!!!</P>

DavenIII
08-03-2011, 01:40 PM
<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><font color="#980001">MikeGarafolo</font> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <span class="actions">
<div><a id="status_star_98807313388945408" class="fav-action non-fav" title="favorite this tweet"></a></div></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>

WOWWWW

wtf does that mean


It means we aren't getting a first rounder from anyone...so now were stuck with him.

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:42 PM
This isn't from reddit, or failbook or anything....this is from my own facebook...I never thought I'd get to see one of these.


I like the white dress on the moreno. Why did she call you a jerk, she must lack a sense of humour?


I rent a room to her actually, she's very head strong, she actually doesn't realize she made a mistake...she's been yelling at me through texts for the last 20 minutes...I sent back..."sorry didn't mean any disrespect I just thought it was funny" (1 text) and she told me to stop texting her about the topic lol.

whatever...it's funny.

You just painted the picture vividly. ha. Sounds like my wife, never boring, sometimes exhausting, but would not trade it for the world.

shocknaweny
08-03-2011, 01:43 PM
hahahahhaha ....as if there was a stink raised about me and Matt trading draft positons...lol</P>


ummmm I am totally down sending Umenyiora to Seattle for J.Carlson and a 2nd rounder....or to Baltimore for 2nd n' 3rd round picks....</P>

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:44 PM
<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><font color="#980001">MikeGarafolo</font> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <span class="actions">
<div><a class="fav-action non-fav" id="status_star_98807313388945408" title="favorite this tweet"></a></div>


<span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> <span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span>Now we're punishing Osi?
</p>


I see it as more of a reminder to him that he has no power in this ordeal. by not playing, he's making his value worse...so.... CHOOSE WISELY!!!!</p>Decent point...f'in Osi.

The Jet's 1st round pic for Defensive end has already been named a starter.
</span></span></span>

ny06
08-03-2011, 01:44 PM
hahahahhaha ....as if there was a stink raised about me and Matt trading draft positons...lol</P>


ummmm I am totally down sending Umenyiora to Seattle for J.Carlson and a 2nd rounder....or to Baltimore for 2nd n' 3rd round picks....</P>


</P>


Osi is off the trading block. </P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 01:44 PM
This isn't from reddit, or failbook or anything....this is from my own facebook...I never thought I'd get to see one of these.

http://i.imgur.com/IfQjq.png
I like the white dress on the moreno. Why did she call you a jerk, she must lack a sense of humour?


JESUS GOD

its qoutes like that which are the exact reason my fbook status is what it is right now:


"
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">Twitter
has taken up all my fbook time. I'd rather read whats going on with the
NFL players and the inside news than seeing girls indirectly talk ****
to each other, or hear how great ur bf/gf (until next week when u break
up), or reading awful qoutes people get from gay websites that list gay
qoutes"</span></h6>

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 01:45 PM
<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><font color="#980001">MikeGarafolo</font> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <span class="actions">
<div><a id="status_star_98807313388945408" class="fav-action non-fav" title="favorite this tweet"></a></div></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>

WOWWWW

wtf does that mean


It means we aren't getting a first rounder from anyone...so now were stuck with him.



lol love it

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 01:45 PM
<SPAN class=status-body><SPAN class=status-content><FONT color=#980001>MikeGarafolo</FONT> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <SPAN class=actions>
<DIV><A id=status_star_98807313388945408 class="fav-action non-fav" title="favorite this tweet"></A></DIV>


</SPAN><SPAN class=entry-content>BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <FONT color=#980001>nj.com/giants/index.s</FONT> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <FONT color=#980001>#nyg</FONT> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN class="meta entry-meta"><SPAN class="published timestamp"><FONT color=#980001>half a minute ago</FONT></SPAN> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <SPAN>via <FONT color=#980001>Twitter for iPhone</FONT> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN>

WOWWWW

wtf does that mean


It means we aren't getting a first rounder from anyone...so now were stuck with him.
</P>


It means that we have an above average DE locked up for two years at about $3.5MM/yr. Thats value. We earned that value by paying him a huge amount in a front loaded contract.</P>


We paid dearly in cash to be in this position. </P>


Osi is a malcontented dip****.</P>


Shut up and play. You're not that good.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 01:47 PM
<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><font color="#980001">MikeGarafolo</font> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <span class="actions">
<div><a id="status_star_98807313388945408" class="fav-action non-fav" title="favorite this tweet"></a></div>


</p></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>

WOWWWW

wtf does that mean


It means we aren't getting a first rounder from anyone...so now were stuck with him.


</p>


It means that we have an above average DE locked up for two years at about $3.5MM/yr. Thats value. We earned that value by paying him a huge amount in a front loaded contract.</p>


We paid dearly in cash to be in this position. </p>


Osi is a malcontented dip****.</p>


Shut up and play. You're not that good.</p>

lol i love it pappy

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 01:52 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:54 PM
This isn't from reddit, or failbook or anything....this is from my own facebook...I never thought I'd get to see one of these.

http://i.imgur.com/IfQjq.png
I like the white dress on the moreno. Why did she call you a jerk, she must lack a sense of humour?


JESUS GOD

its qoutes like that which are the exact reason my fbook status is what it is right now:


"
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">Twitter
has taken up all my fbook time. I'd rather read whats going on with the
NFL players and the inside news than seeing girls indirectly talk ****
to each other, or hear how great ur bf/gf (until next week when u break
up), or reading awful qoutes people get from gay websites that list gay
qoutes"</span></h6>Whenever I review my daughters FB--which my wife and I both have illicit acess to...I can't believe how vicious the girls are to each other. "Indirectly" beating up on each other is a polite understatement. It's cruel for a young girl to have to endure some of that crap.

shocknaweny
08-03-2011, 01:54 PM
posted by TuckMVP According to Rich Smith (@ALLsportsINTEL): NFL TRADE UPDATE- Source close to situation Reporting that Eagles and 49ers are in negotiations on a trade Asante Samuel for Patrick Willis. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That can't be real. If that happens I give up. The 9ers can't be that stupid. Right? RIGHT!?!?
</P>


</P>


NO way the San Fran would give up there defensive MVP for Samuel....if they wanted a corner that bad they could have just given Nnamdi 14mil. and they would have him without giving up a player @ all....lmfao</P>

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 01:55 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along
Does anyone know the reason that free agents cannot practice until tomorrow?

byron
08-03-2011, 01:58 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along
not sure what you mean but I know hold outs can be fined 30000 a day hecould retire tho

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 02:00 PM
<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><font color="#980001">MikeGarafolo</font> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <span class="actions">
<div><a class="fav-action non-fav" id="status_star_98807313388945408" title="favorite this tweet"></a></div>


</p></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>Now we're punishing Osi?


</p>


I see it as more of a reminder to him that he has no power in this ordeal. by not playing, he's making his value worse...so.... CHOOSE WISELY!!!!</p>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__NN6L_0B4b4/TJ0Q4TxPE2I/AAAAAAAAD_8/RcckA3DSEnM/s1600/grailknight.jpg
if he continues to drag this out, it will hurt him in all aspects.

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 02:00 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along
Does anyone know the reason that free agents cannot practice until tomorrow?
</P>


They can't play until the recertification of the union. Teams can sign FA's until them, but they can't participate on the field.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:03 PM
This isn't from reddit, or failbook or anything....this is from my own facebook...I never thought I'd get to see one of these.

http://i.imgur.com/IfQjq.png
I like the white dress on the moreno. Why did she call you a jerk, she must lack a sense of humour?


JESUS GOD

its qoutes like that which are the exact reason my fbook status is what it is right now:


"
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">Twitter
has taken up all my fbook time. I'd rather read whats going on with the
NFL players and the inside news than seeing girls indirectly talk ****
to each other, or hear how great ur bf/gf (until next week when u break
up), or reading awful qoutes people get from gay websites that list gay
qoutes"</span></h6>Whenever I review my daughters FB--which my wife and I both have illicit acess to...I can't believe how vicious the girls are to each other. "Indirectly" beating up on each other is a polite understatement. It's cruel for a young girl to have to endure some of that crap.


haha it ain't just for young girls. I know girls in their 30s playing those same stupid ****in games

like grow up, who the **** cares.If u can't go man up in someones face then shut the **** up

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:05 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along
Does anyone know the reason that free agents cannot practice until tomorrow?


theres a new claus in the CBA that a player can't report to camp until 4 days after they sign their contract

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:05 PM
posted by TuckMVP According to Rich Smith (@ALLsportsINTEL): NFL TRADE UPDATE- Source close to situation Reporting that Eagles and 49ers are in negotiations on a trade Asante Samuel for Patrick Willis. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That can't be real. If that happens I give up. The 9ers can't be that stupid. Right? RIGHT!?!?
</p>


</p>


NO way the San Fran would give up there defensive MVP for Samuel....if they wanted a corner that bad they could have just given Nnamdi 14mil. and they would have him without giving up a player @ all....lmfao</p>

ur always a day late and a dollar short lol

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:06 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along
not sure what you mean but I know hold outs can be fined 30000 a day hecould retire tho

the CBA isn't officiall signed and final. They are putting the finishing touche son it

like for how holdouts have to pay 30k a day, maybe theres more thing in there that would benefit teams if a player holds out... i have no clue what but its just a thought

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 02:09 PM
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</p></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>Now we're punishing Osi?


</p>


I see it as more of a reminder to him that he has no power in this ordeal. by not playing, he's making his value worse...so.... CHOOSE WISELY!!!!</p>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__NN6L_0B4b4/TJ0Q4TxPE2I/AAAAAAAAD_8/RcckA3DSEnM/s1600/grailknight.jpg
if he continues to drag this out, it will hurt him in all aspects.
Is that the dudE from Braveheart?

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 02:09 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along
not sure what you mean but I know hold outs can be fined 30000 a day hecould retire tho

the CBA isn't officiall signed and final. They are putting the finishing touche son it
<u>
like for how holdouts have to pay 30k a day,</u> maybe theres more thing in there that would benefit teams if a player holds out... i have no clue what but its just a thought
i love that. should be 50, but whatever. they sit out of training camp for a month and its close to a million

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 02:10 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along
Does anyone know the reason that free agents cannot practice until tomorrow?
</p>


They can't play until the recertification of the union. Teams can sign FA's until them, but they can't participate on the field.</p>ah, [Y]

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 02:10 PM
could something of been slipped into the finalizing of the CBA to make the Giants wait out Osi

or was this the plan all along
not sure what you mean but I know hold outs can be fined 30000 a day hecould retire tho

the CBA isn't officiall signed and final. They are putting the finishing touche son it
<u>
like for how holdouts have to pay 30k a day,</u> maybe theres more thing in there that would benefit teams if a player holds out... i have no clue what but its just a thought
i love that. should be 50, but whatever. they sit out of training camp for a month and its close to a million

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 02:12 PM
<SPAN class=status-body><SPAN class=status-content><FONT color=#980001>MikeGarafolo</FONT> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <SPAN class=actions>
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</P></SPAN><SPAN class=entry-content>BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <FONT color=#980001>nj.com/giants/index.s</FONT> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <FONT color=#980001>#nyg</FONT> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN class="meta entry-meta"><SPAN class="published timestamp"><FONT color=#980001>half a minute ago</FONT></SPAN> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <SPAN>via <FONT color=#980001>Twitter for iPhone</FONT> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN>Now we're punishing Osi?



</P>


I see it as more of a reminder to him that he has no power in this ordeal. by not playing, he's making his value worse...so.... CHOOSE WISELY!!!!</P>


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__NN6L_0B4b4/TJ0Q4TxPE2I/AAAAAAAAD_8/RcckA3DSEnM/s1600/grailknight.jpg
if he continues to drag this out, it will hurt him in all aspects.
Is that the dudE from Braveheart?
</P>


No. Its the guy from Indiana Jones, guarding the Holy Grail.</P>

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 02:12 PM
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</p></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>Now we're punishing Osi?


</p>


I see it as more of a reminder to him that he has no power in this ordeal. by not playing, he's making his value worse...so.... CHOOSE WISELY!!!!</p>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__NN6L_0B4b4/TJ0Q4TxPE2I/AAAAAAAAD_8/RcckA3DSEnM/s1600/grailknight.jpg
if he continues to drag this out, it will hurt him in all aspects.
Is that the dudE from Braveheart?
nah its the guy from indiana jones who says " choose wisely..." when their looking for the holy grail.

shocknaweny
08-03-2011, 02:12 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</P>


</P>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:15 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</p>


</p>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</p>

it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me

byron
08-03-2011, 02:18 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</P>


</P>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</P>

it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
thats easy your the guy taking vick in the second round

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 02:18 PM
<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><font color="#980001">MikeGarafolo</font> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo) <span class="actions">
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</p></span><span class="entry-content">BREAKING: Giants rescind permission for Osi Umenyiora to seek a trade: <font color="#980001">nj.com/giants/index.s</font> (http://t.co/ceSqAJS) <font color="#980001">#nyg</font> (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nyg)</span> </span><span class="meta entry-meta"><span class="published timestamp"><font color="#980001">half a minute ago</font></span> (http://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/98807313388945408) <span>via <font color="#980001">Twitter for iPhone</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)</span> </span></span>Now we're punishing Osi?



</p>


I see it as more of a reminder to him that he has no power in this ordeal. by not playing, he's making his value worse...so.... CHOOSE WISELY!!!!</p>


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__NN6L_0B4b4/TJ0Q4TxPE2I/AAAAAAAAD_8/RcckA3DSEnM/s1600/grailknight.jpg
if he continues to drag this out, it will hurt him in all aspects.
Is that the dudE from Braveheart?
</p>


No. Its the guy from Indiana Jones, guarding the Holy Grail.</p>we have so much in common. [:)]

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 02:22 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</P>


</P>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</P>




it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
</P>


We've all been "Matt Killa's" over the past 2 years.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:24 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</p>


</p>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</p>

it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
thats easy your the guy taking vick in the second round

vick will be gone top 6

i won't be seeing vick at teh 12 spot

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:25 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</p>


</p>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</p>




it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
</p>


We've all been "Matt Killa's" over the past 2 years.</p>

haha ur all getting it this year

dont say i didn't tell u so

now i have to **** on you all

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 02:26 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</P>


</P>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</P>




it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
</P>


We've all been "Matt Killa's" over the past 2 years.</P>




haha ur all getting it this year

dont say i didn't tell u so

now i have to **** on you all
</P>


Make sure to start your kicker this season....It might help to **** on us.</P>

DavenIII
08-03-2011, 02:27 PM
haha it ain't just for young girls. I know girls in their 30s playing those same stupid ****in games

like grow up, who the **** cares.If u can't go man up in someones face then shut the **** up


The girl who I posted the Facebook status of is 26 she actually works in the same company as me...it's kinda sad.

JPizzack
08-03-2011, 02:27 PM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</P>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</P>

byron
08-03-2011, 02:28 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</P>


</P>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</P>

it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
thats easy your the guy taking vick in the second round

vick will be gone top 6

i won't be seeing vick at teh 12 spot
Rogers either

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:30 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</p>


</p>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</p>




it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
</p>


We've all been "Matt Killa's" over the past 2 years.</p>




haha ur all getting it this year

dont say i didn't tell u so

now i have to **** on you all
</p>


Make sure to start your kicker this season....It might help to **** on us.</p>

wont even need to

this year im not gonna rely on VJack and i wont get the injury bug like i did the past two years...

ur going to be in trouble

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:32 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</p>


</p>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</p>

it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
thats easy your the guy taking vick in the second round

vick will be gone top 6

i won't be seeing vick at teh 12 spot
Rogers either

not sure both go in the top 6

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:33 PM
haha it ain't just for young girls. I know girls in their 30s playing those same stupid ****in games

like grow up, who the **** cares.If u can't go man up in someones face then shut the **** up


The girl who I posted the Facebook status of is 26 she actually works in the same company as me...it's kinda sad.



attention *****s

its pathetic it honestly is. Like broads don't get enough attention naturally - they need to do that stupid ****...

uhg, i feel like like an old bitter man (pappy). Technology is so awesome but has such a downside.

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 02:34 PM
Are any of you having problems with Yahoo FF not loading in time on the mock drafts. I'm 4 minutes into the draft and its still loading. Happened last year too.

byron
08-03-2011, 02:38 PM
Matt hexed it!!

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 02:39 PM
btw, i love my mocks at teh 12 spot

I bet you do. That is why Shock was such a dumbass to trade you.

Then you get your RB or WR with a great QB.


i have ur head spinning, u have no idea what im gonna do

but i love that i have ur attention

shock won it two years in a row and got a spot he feels comfy with and u don't care

im in ur head boyyyyy
</p>


</p>


Plus I am a Utah KILLA ' ....Matt's right though Lando he's got u all paranoid android and ****.....this is very entertaining.</p>

it is a beautiful thing

hes joining every mock on fantasyfootballcalculator trying to guess if its me
so he's Utah. I see.

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:40 PM
Are any of you having problems with Yahoo FF not loading in time on the mock drafts. I'm 4 minutes into the draft and its still loading. Happened last year too.

nope

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 02:40 PM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</p>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</p>last crusade. all about connery
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/indiana_jones_and_the_last_crusade/sean_connery/crusade1.jpg
the other 2 were good but not as good as this one

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 02:44 PM
Are any of you having problems with Yahoo FF not loading in time on the mock drafts. I'm 4 minutes into the draft and its still loading. Happened last year too.

nope
</P>


The computer picked three guys for me before I got on. CJ, Manning and Gore....not bad actually.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 02:47 PM
Are any of you having problems with Yahoo FF not loading in time on the mock drafts. I'm 4 minutes into the draft and its still loading. Happened last year too.

nope
</p>


The computer picked three guys for me before I got on. CJ, Manning and Gore....not bad actually.</p>

at 4?CJ

Gore in the 3rd? Good luck getting that

JPizzack
08-03-2011, 02:49 PM
Are any of you having problems with Yahoo FF not loading in time on the mock drafts. I'm 4 minutes into the draft and its still loading. Happened last year too.

nope
</P>


The computer picked three guys for me before I got on. CJ, Manning and Gore....not bad actually.</P>


</P>


in a 12 team mock? wow....wtf</P>

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 02:55 PM
Are any of you having problems with Yahoo FF not loading in time on the mock drafts. I'm 4 minutes into the draft and its still loading. Happened last year too.

nope
</P>


The computer picked three guys for me before I got on. CJ, Manning and Gore....not bad actually.</P>


</P>


in a 12 team mock? wow....wtf</P>


</P>


I didn't see what everyone else picked. It just showed up when it finally loaded. It was the middle of the third round.</P>

bigblue4417
08-03-2011, 03:20 PM
<div class="report">


A source close to Osi Umenyiora predicts the
disgruntled pass rusher may claim he's not healthy enough to practice
after being denied a trade.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
As we suspected, this saga isn't over yet. Though
Umenyiora has yet to practice, coach Tom Coughlin confirmed it has
nothing to do with the 29-year-old's offseason hip surgery. The Giants
are expected to challenge Umenyiora if he sits out, and the NFLPA is
"watching this mess closely" to ensure that there's no punishment.
</div>

lttaylor56
08-03-2011, 03:28 PM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</p>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</p>last crusade. all about connery
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/indiana_jones_and_the_last_crusade/sean_connery/crusade1.jpg
the other 2 were good but not as good as this one
He was awesome as Jame Bond back in the day as well. Thunderbolt was the ****!

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 03:30 PM
<div class="report">


A source close to Osi Umenyiora predicts the
disgruntled pass rusher may claim he's not healthy enough to practice
after being denied a trade.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
As we suspected, this saga isn't over yet. Though
Umenyiora has yet to practice, coach Tom Coughlin confirmed it has
nothing to do with the 29-year-old's offseason hip surgery. The Giants
are expected to challenge Umenyiora if he sits out, and the NFLPA is
"watching this mess closely" to ensure that there's no punishment.
</div>

WFAN alreayd reported giants are talking to his agent working out a deal

JPizzack
08-03-2011, 03:32 PM
<DIV class=report>


A source close to Osi Umenyiora predicts the disgruntled pass rusher may claim he's not healthy enough to practice after being denied a trade.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>As we suspected, this saga isn't over yet. Though Umenyiora has yet to practice, coach Tom Coughlin confirmed it has nothing to do with the 29-year-old's offseason hip surgery. The Giants are expected to challenge Umenyiora if he sits out, and the NFLPA is "watching this mess closely" to ensure that there's no punishment. </DIV>


</P>


who cares. I don't get what he's doing. He has to know that he's just hurting his value immensely. Coming off surgery, prior injury histroy, holding out, and possibly not playing? <FONT color=#ff0000>Yea I'd pay extra for that.....</FONT></P>

JPizzack
08-03-2011, 03:36 PM
MLB is apparently investigating A-Rod AGAIN for involvement with some low-key highstakes poker games. The previous 2 times, they couldn't find anything bad going on, and just told him to distance himself from that kind of thing. The latest report doesn't even mention it being a new allegation, just a new spin on an old story.
At what point does it just start becoming a witch hunt on a player that people love to hate?
Who cares!!! Poker isn't illegal!! It's sports betting that has a history in sports......this clearly is not whats being questioned, so why do they care?</P>


from the ESPN article:
"According to the baseball executive, MLB has yet to positively determine that Rodriguez took part in the games, which reportedly included actors Tobey Maguire, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. The man did not know if baseball's investigators had yet spoken to Rodriguez about the allegations, but he confirmed MLB has at least two investigators working on the case."</P>


OOOOH!!! What a dangerous crowd!!!! lmao</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 03:45 PM
MLB is apparently investigating A-Rod AGAIN for involvement with some low-key highstakes poker games. The previous 2 times, they couldn't find anything bad going on, and just told him to distance himself from that kind of thing. The latest report doesn't even mention it being a new allegation, just a new spin on an old story.
At what point does it just start becoming a witch hunt on a player that people love to hate?
Who cares!!! Poker isn't illegal!! It's sports betting that has a history in sports......this clearly is not whats being questioned, so why do they care?</p>


from the ESPN article:
"According to the baseball executive, MLB has yet to positively determine that Rodriguez took part in the games, which reportedly included actors Tobey Maguire, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. The man did not know if baseball's investigators had yet spoken to Rodriguez about the allegations, but he confirmed MLB has at least two investigators working on the case."</p>


OOOOH!!! What a dangerous crowd!!!! lmao</p>

swisher said they were going to play cards in between the double header on sunday

ITS SPREADING TO THE LOCKERROOM!!!

CUT THE DISTRACTION!

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 03:48 PM
MLB is apparently investigating A-Rod AGAIN for involvement with some low-key highstakes poker games. The previous 2 times, they couldn't find anything bad going on, and just told him to distance himself from that kind of thing. The latest report doesn't even mention it being a new allegation, just a new spin on an old story.
At what point does it just start becoming a witch hunt on a player that people love to hate?
Who cares!!! Poker isn't illegal!! It's sports betting that has a history in sports......this clearly is not whats being questioned, so why do they care?</p>


from the ESPN article:
"According to the baseball executive, MLB has yet to positively determine that Rodriguez took part in the games, which reportedly included actors Tobey Maguire, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. The man did not know if baseball's investigators had yet spoken to Rodriguez about the allegations, but he confirmed MLB has at least two investigators working on the case."</p>


OOOOH!!! What a dangerous crowd!!!! lmao</p>if the only issue is the poker game wasnt taxed by the american gov, i could care less.

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 03:54 PM
yea im not sure who i was just listening to but the guys on the radio were flaming arod for this.

why? he played a poker game. "with all thr drama that arod has dealt with, divorcing his wife, phds, you would think he would distance himself from this type of stuff"

how can one compare getting a divorce and taking steroids to a poker game with other big name celebs. i know im a hater but this is ludicrous

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 03:58 PM
yea im not sure who i was just listening to but the guys on the radio were flaming arod for this.

why? he played a poker game. "with all thr drama that arod has dealt with, divorcing his wife, phds, you would think he would distance himself from this type of stuff"

how can one compare getting a divorce and taking steroids to a poker game with other big name celebs. i know im a hater but this is ludicrous


na ur absolutely right

are u listening to the fan? They are all just pro mets ****** bags

if anyone could really feel the need to break arods balls for this is just an ******* by nature and u shouldn't listen to

JPizzack
08-03-2011, 04:06 PM
ITS SPREADING TO THE LOCKERROOM!!!

CUT THE DISTRACTION!
</P>


I just laughed pretty loud in my office at this. hahaha</P>

JPizzack
08-03-2011, 04:08 PM
yea im not sure who i was just listening to but the guys on the radio were flaming arod for this.

why? he played a poker game. "with all thr drama that arod has dealt with, divorcing his wife, phds, you would think he would distance himself from this type of stuff"

how can one compare getting a divorce and taking steroids to a poker game with other big name celebs. i know im a hater but this is ludicrous


na ur absolutely right

are u listening to the fan? They are all just pro mets ****** bags

if anyone could really feel the need to break arods balls for this is just an ******* by nature and u shouldn't listen to
</P>


lol, I like A-Rod....and I think it's just because people hate him so much that I just defend him to piss people off. lol....I do like him though. And I specifically love how he feeds off it and makes fun of himself for it. The mirror photo. GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!! lmao</P>

bandwgn86
08-03-2011, 04:10 PM
<DIV class=report>


A source close to Osi Umenyiora predicts the disgruntled pass rusher may claim he's not healthy enough to practice after being denied a trade.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>As we suspected, this saga isn't over yet. Though Umenyiora has yet to practice, coach Tom Coughlin confirmed it has nothing to do with the 29-year-old's offseason hip surgery. The Giants are expected to challenge Umenyiora if he sits out, and the NFLPA is "watching this mess closely" to ensure that there's no punishment. </DIV>


</P>


who cares. I don't get what he's doing. He has to know that he's just hurting his value immensely. Coming off surgery, prior injury histroy, holding out, and possibly not playing? <FONT color=#ff0000>Yea I'd pay extra for that.....</FONT></P>not to mention saying he's STILL injured.. big bucks a comin his way lol

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 04:11 PM
yea im not sure who i was just listening to but the guys on the radio were flaming arod for this.

why? he played a poker game. "with all thr drama that arod has dealt with, divorcing his wife, phds, you would think he would distance himself from this type of stuff"

how can one compare getting a divorce and taking steroids to a poker game with other big name celebs. i know im a hater but this is ludicrous


na ur absolutely right

are u listening to the fan? They are all just pro mets ****** bags

if anyone could really feel the need to break arods balls for this is just an ******* by nature and u shouldn't listen to
yea it was the fan. i can guarantee that both of them have played poker at a friends house within this year. hypocrites giving arod **** for being at an illegal game, its bs. youre right theyre bitter mets fans lol. they were complaining about that horrible loss to the marlins last night and santana feeling soreness in his shoulder in a minor league start.

bandwgn86
08-03-2011, 04:15 PM
yea im not sure who i was just listening to but the guys on the radio were flaming arod for this.

why? he played a poker game. "with all thr drama that arod has dealt with, divorcing his wife, phds, you would think he would distance himself from this type of stuff"

how can one compare getting a divorce and taking steroids to a poker game with other big name celebs. i know im a hater but this is ludicrous
he probably cheats at poker too ;)

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 04:15 PM
yea im not sure who i was just listening to but the guys on the radio were flaming arod for this.

why? he played a poker game. "with all thr drama that arod has dealt with, divorcing his wife, phds, you would think he would distance himself from this type of stuff"

how can one compare getting a divorce and taking steroids to a poker game with other big name celebs. i know im a hater but this is ludicrous


na ur absolutely right

are u listening to the fan? They are all just pro mets ****** bags

if anyone could really feel the need to break arods balls for this is just an ******* by nature and u shouldn't listen to
</p>


lol, I like A-Rod....and I think it's just because people hate him so much that I just defend him to piss people off. lol....I do like him though. And I specifically love how he feeds off it and makes fun of himself for it.<u> The mirror photo</u>. GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!! lmao</p>lol. so creepy, its like christian bale in american psycho while hes screwing the prostitutes and flexing in the mirror.

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 04:16 PM
yea im not sure who i was just listening to but the guys on the radio were flaming arod for this.

why? he played a poker game. "with all thr drama that arod has dealt with, divorcing his wife, phds, you would think he would distance himself from this type of stuff"

how can one compare getting a divorce and taking steroids to a poker game with other big name celebs. i know im a hater but this is ludicrous
he probably cheats at poker too ;)lol hiiiiiooooooo

bandwgn86
08-03-2011, 04:25 PM
Yu Darvish Rumors


Yu Darvish Represented By Arn Tellem, Don Nomura
By Tim Dierkes [August 1, 2011 at 2:35pm CST]
Nippon-Ham Fighters ace Yu Darvish is represented by Arn Tellem of Wasserman Media Group as well as Don Nomura, MLBTR has confirmed. There had been rumors of a Darvish-Tellem connection dating back to May of last year.

The bigger question, of course, is whether the Fighters will post the superstar righty this offseason. That is currently an unknown. Darvish, 25 this month, has a 1.56 ERA, 10.2 K/9, 1.4 BB/9, and 0.20 HR/9 in 133 innings for the Fighters this year.



how big a payday is this guy going to get.. Dice K made a little cash, this guy is suppose to be the real deal..

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 04:28 PM
Yu Darvish Rumors


Yu Darvish Represented By Arn Tellem, Don Nomura
By Tim Dierkes [August 1, 2011 at 2:35pm CST]
Nippon-Ham Fighters ace Yu Darvish is represented by Arn Tellem of Wasserman Media Group as well as Don Nomura, MLBTR has confirmed. There had been rumors of a Darvish-Tellem connection dating back to May of last year.

The bigger question, of course, is whether the Fighters will post the superstar righty this offseason. That is currently an unknown. Darvish, 25 this month, has a 1.56 ERA, 10.2 K/9, 1.4 BB/9, and 0.20 HR/9 in 133 innings for the Fighters this year.



how big a payday is this guy going to get.. Dice K made a little cash, this guy is suppose to be the real deal..

they say that about EVERY asian pitcher

Yankees are due for a foreign signing - especially at pitcher

when is he coming to new yo... i mean the league?

bandwgn86
08-03-2011, 04:36 PM
Yu Darvish Rumors


Yu Darvish Represented By Arn Tellem, Don Nomura
By Tim Dierkes [August 1, 2011 at 2:35pm CST]
Nippon-Ham Fighters ace Yu Darvish is represented by Arn Tellem of Wasserman Media Group as well as Don Nomura, MLBTR has confirmed. There had been rumors of a Darvish-Tellem connection dating back to May of last year.

The bigger question, of course, is whether the Fighters will post the superstar righty this offseason. That is currently an unknown. Darvish, 25 this month, has a 1.56 ERA, 10.2 K/9, 1.4 BB/9, and 0.20 HR/9 in 133 innings for the Fighters this year.



how big a payday is this guy going to get.. Dice K made a little cash, this guy is suppose to be the real deal..

they say that about EVERY asian pitcher

Yankees are due for a foreign signing - especially at pitcher

when is he coming to new yo... i mean the league?
Jays are also due for a "you're paying him what" signing..'

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 04:56 PM
Yu Darvish Rumors


Yu Darvish Represented By Arn Tellem, Don Nomura
By Tim Dierkes [August 1, 2011 at 2:35pm CST]
Nippon-Ham Fighters ace Yu Darvish is represented by Arn Tellem of Wasserman Media Group as well as Don Nomura, MLBTR has confirmed. There had been rumors of a Darvish-Tellem connection dating back to May of last year.

The bigger question, of course, is whether the Fighters will post the superstar righty this offseason. That is currently an unknown. Darvish, 25 this month, has a 1.56 ERA, 10.2 K/9, 1.4 BB/9, and 0.20 HR/9 in 133 innings for the Fighters this year.



how big a payday is this guy going to get.. Dice K made a little cash, this guy is suppose to be the real deal..

they say that about EVERY asian pitcher

Yankees are due for a foreign signing - especially at pitcher

when is he coming to new yo... i mean the league?
Jays are also due for a "you're paying him what" signing..'

poor guy

what is currency exchange of yen to rubels?

DavenIII
08-03-2011, 05:02 PM
Remember the discussion we had about legalizing all drugs a while back?

Apparently Portugal did it in 2000...and apparently it worked!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/26/portugals-drug-policy-pays-eyes-lessons/

DavenIII
08-03-2011, 05:04 PM
The Intro...since people never click on links around here.



<p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF"><span class="dateline">LISBON, Portugal </span>These
days, Casal Ventoso is an ordinary blue-collar community mothers
push baby strollers, men smoke outside cafes, buses chug up and down the
cobbled main street.</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">Ten years ago, the Lisbon
neighborhood was a hellhole, a "drug supermarket" where some 5,000 users
lined up every day to buy heroin and sneak into a hillside honeycomb of
derelict housing to shoot up. In dark, stinking corners, addicts
some with maggots squirming under track marks staggered between the
occasional corpse, scavenging used, bloody needles.</font></p><div class="sect vert">
</div><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">At that time, Portugal, like
the junkies of Casal Ventoso, had hit rock bottom: An estimated 100,000
people an astonishing 1 percent of its population were addicted
to illegal drugs. So, like anyone with little to lose, the Portuguese
took a risky leap: They decriminalized the use of all drugs in a
groundbreaking law in 2000.</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">___</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">EDITOR'S NOTE This is part
of an occasional series by The Associated Press examining the U.S.
struggles in its war on drugs after four decades and $1 trillion.</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">___</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">Now, the United States, which
has waged a 40-year, $1 trillion war on drugs, is looking for answers in
tiny Portugal, which is reaping the benefits of what once looked like a
dangerous gamble. White House drug czar Gil Kerlikowske visited
Portugal in September to learn about its drug reforms, and other
countries including Norway, Denmark, Australia and Peru have
taken interest, too.</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">"The disasters that were
predicted by critics didn't happen," said University of Kent professor
Alex Stevens, who has studied Portugal's program. "The answer was
simple: Provide treatment."</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">___</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">Drugs in Portugal are still
illegal. But here's what Portugal did: It changed the law so that users
are sent to counseling and sometimes treatment instead of criminal
courts and prison. The switch from drugs as a criminal issue to a public
health one was aimed at preventing users from going underground.</font></p><font color="#0000FF">
</font><p style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000FF">Other European countries treat
drugs as a public health problem, too, but Portugal stands out as the
only one that has written that approach into law. The result: More
people tried drugs, but fewer ended up addicted.</font></p><div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/26/portugals-drug-policy-pays-eyes-lessons/#ixzz1U0BmUXLh
</div>

bandwgn86
08-03-2011, 05:08 PM
Yu Darvish Rumors


Yu Darvish Represented By Arn Tellem, Don Nomura
By Tim Dierkes [August 1, 2011 at 2:35pm CST]
Nippon-Ham Fighters ace Yu Darvish is represented by Arn Tellem of Wasserman Media Group as well as Don Nomura, MLBTR has confirmed. There had been rumors of a Darvish-Tellem connection dating back to May of last year.

The bigger question, of course, is whether the Fighters will post the superstar righty this offseason. That is currently an unknown. Darvish, 25 this month, has a 1.56 ERA, 10.2 K/9, 1.4 BB/9, and 0.20 HR/9 in 133 innings for the Fighters this year.



how big a payday is this guy going to get.. Dice K made a little cash, this guy is suppose to be the real deal..

they say that about EVERY asian pitcher

Yankees are due for a foreign signing - especially at pitcher

when is he coming to new yo... i mean the league?
Jays are also due for a "you're paying him what" signing..'

poor guy

what is currency exchange of yen to rubels?
yen to rubles?

bandwgn86
08-03-2011, 05:17 PM
i'd be so pissed if the US legalizes drugs!

we were going to do just that.. until a certain neighbor to the south stuck there nose in and "suggested" we don't and here we are now with the US trying to find ways to legalize it..

dezzzR
08-03-2011, 05:19 PM
i'd be so pissed if the US legalizes drugs!

we were going to do just that.. until a certain neighbor to the south stuck there nose in and "suggested" we don't and here we are now with the US trying to find ways to legalize it..cause we run **** syyyn

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2011, 09:22 PM
Boss juat got done working out foe oakland. Looks like hea gone.


In other news osi was at practice today, just didnt plY

Morehead State
08-03-2011, 10:33 PM
http://www.maryschwalm.com/blog/ells2.jpg

byron
08-03-2011, 11:57 PM
Boss juat got done working out foe oakland. Looks like hea gone. In other news osi was at practice today, just didnt plYI'm not sure what to believe any more ....but not letting guys hold out might not be the answer at some point this becomes a big locker room problem....he could do a lot damage imo to player /management relations...idk man crazy **** happening</P>


tagf= osi meltdown</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 08:52 AM
ha i was trying to get into it with people there yesterday, but they are just off the ledge

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 09:01 AM
Newman out all preseason for Boys

they are having a bad year so far

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 09:10 AM
Newman out all preseason for Boys

they are having a bad year so far
</P>


I kinda forgot the cowboys existed....just kinda figured they would be horrible again this year =P
the eagles are the real threat, but i love some good ole fashion cowboy killin'</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 09:13 AM
that guy PAtterson that had the seizure for the EAgles yesterday, has some kind of conidtion

he may not be healthy this year.

just the start of the holes being exposed. They were already very thin at DT

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 09:29 AM
every once in a while i remember why i love blondie

we joined this fantasy leaguea nd we're going to co-own a team

she named the team Hakeem Dream

i just notified her of my no homo policy so she said okay how bout "Romo sucks Vick"

atta girl.... shes coming along nicely

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 09:32 AM
every once in a while i remember why i love blondie

we joined this fantasy leaguea nd we're going to co-own a team

she named the team Hakeem Dream

i just notified her of my no homo policy so she said okay how bout "Romo sucks Vick"

atta girl.... shes coming along nicely
</P>


legitttttttttt!!!</P>

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 09:40 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 09:47 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?Osi Umenyiora (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Osi-Umenyiora/162716283751351)
is now threatening to have knee surgery now which he was planning to
have next offseason to clear out his knee. This would put him on IR all
season, while he gets his knee back to 100%</span></h6>

this guy is the biggest scumbag a team could have.
if i were eli or tuck id be tearing him to shreads.

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 10:01 AM
yaaay marios back

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 10:02 AM
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":1}'>
<DIV class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft='{"type":2}'>In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</DIV><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft='{"type":3}'>?Osi Umenyiora (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Osi-Umenyiora/162716283751351) is now threatening to have knee surgery now which he was planning to have next offseason to clear out his knee. This would put him on IR all season, while he gets his knee back to 100%</SPAN></H6>




this guy is the biggest scumbag a team could have.
if i were eli or tuck id be tearing him to shreads.
</P>


man this guy really likes driving his value down....this does absoultely nothing for him...</P>

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:02 AM
every once in a while i remember why i love blondie

we joined this fantasy leaguea nd we're going to co-own a team

she named the team Hakeem Dream

i just notified her of my no homo policy so she said okay how bout "Romo sucks Vick"

atta girl.... shes coming along nicely
</p>


legitttttttttt!!!</p>lol....now I understand, why there is no issue with the nooner. [:)]

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 10:04 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:05 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}">
<div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?Osi Umenyiora (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Osi-Umenyiora/162716283751351) is now threatening to have knee surgery now which he was planning to have next offseason to clear out his knee. This would put him on IR all season, while he gets his knee back to 100%</span></h6>




this guy is the biggest scumbag a team could have.
if i were eli or tuck id be tearing him to shreads.
</p>


man this guy really likes driving his value down....this does absoultely nothing for him...</p>I mean seriously, right. There's two situations here, Osi's salary and his committment to his team. They are separate but also cross over each other. I would feel like I was being such a **** to my team and fellow players if I were him. Unless it generally accepted in the league, idk?

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 10:05 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?Osi Umenyiora (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Osi-Umenyiora/162716283751351)
is now threatening to have knee surgery now which he was planning to
have next offseason to clear out his knee. This would put him on IR all
season, while he gets his knee back to 100%</span></h6>

this guy is the biggest scumbag a team could have.
if i were eli or tuck id be tearing him to shreads.


u know what, i think he needs it anyawy

to be honest, i kinda hope it works out this way just so he loses all of his contract value

and then we DEFINITLY jkeep him for the last yea rof his contract

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:06 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 10:07 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}">
<div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?Osi Umenyiora (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Osi-Umenyiora/162716283751351) is now threatening to have knee surgery now which he was planning to have next offseason to clear out his knee. This would put him on IR all season, while he gets his knee back to 100%</span></h6>




this guy is the biggest scumbag a team could have.
if i were eli or tuck id be tearing him to shreads.
</p>


man this guy really likes driving his value down....this does absoultely nothing for him...</p>like i said i just really hope tuck or eli are going up one side of him and down the other. what a selfish *******

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:14 AM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</p>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</p>I gotta go with the first one...."indy, the floor moves!" ....looking into the pyramid filled with snakes.

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 10:19 AM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</P>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</P>


I gotta go with the first one...."indy, the floor moves!" ....looking into the pyramid filled with snakes.
</P>


Wow you guys.</P>


Raiders of the Lost Ark is maybe the greatest action film ever.</P>

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 10:25 AM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</P>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</P>


I gotta go with the first one...."indy, the floor moves!" ....looking into the pyramid filled with snakes.
</P>


Wow you guys.</P>


Raiders of the Lost Ark is maybe the greatest action film ever.</P>


</P>


It's crazy how advanced Lucas made films....
you watch Lost Ark, and you look at it like "1981? Bull****! this is easily a mid-90s movie</P>

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 10:33 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 10:37 AM
lmao at all the negative comments on steve smiths fb comment
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">Steve Smith (http://www.facebook.com/SteveSmith)</div> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">Whether u love him or hate him, go ahead and salute the president of our beloved USA !! happy bday president obama</span></h6>

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:38 AM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</p>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</p>


I gotta go with the first one...."indy, the floor moves!" ....looking into the pyramid filled with snakes.
</p>


Wow you guys.</p>


Raiders of the Lost Ark is maybe the greatest action film ever.</p>


</p>


It's crazy how advanced Lucas made films....
you watch Lost Ark, and you look at it like "1981? Bull****! this is easily a mid-90s movie</p>I was 15 when I saw that flick....I remember being out of school for a month and a half due to kissing a girl that smelled like wet washcloth. I came down with mono -so bad-that just brushing my teeth would force me to sleep for a few hours. It was horrible. I recall seeing Raiders and a good Westpoint Army football game towards the end of my mono-bout.

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:39 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 10:41 AM
lmao at all the negative comments on steve smiths fb comment

<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":1}'>
<DIV class="actorName actorDescription" data-ft='{"type":2}'>Steve Smith (http://www.facebook.com/SteveSmith)</DIV><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft='{"type":3}'>Whether u love him or hate him, go ahead and salute the president of our beloved USA !! happy bday president obama</SPAN></H6>



</P>


he usually speaks his mind, typically all positive stuff though.
I guess people been flaming his fb pretty heavily for not signing already...not that it's necessarily his fault. But he had to post about telling ppl to keep it PG cuz all the kids who follow him also.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 10:43 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 10:46 AM
I was 15 when I saw that flick....I remember being out of school for a month and a half due to kissing a girl that smelled like wet washcloth. I came down with mono -so bad-that just brushing my teeth would force me to sleep for a few hours. It was horrible. I recall seeing Raiders and a good Westpoint Army football game towards the end of my mono-bout.
</P>


lmao....best story ever.

kinda reminded me of :
the week after the Giants won SB42, I was watching theparade after some morning classes, and I started to feel kinda achy...
I ended up having the flu so bad that week, that I couldn't sit up out of bed without rolling onto my side and flilnging my legs out. Everything was a chore.
That's when I adopted the philosophy of "sweating it out". I recommend it. I put on pants, and 2 shirts under a hoodie, and just sweat lol. it made me feel 100x better after the first day. lol</P>

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 10:46 AM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</P>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</P>


I gotta go with the first one...."indy, the floor moves!" ....looking into the pyramid filled with snakes.
</P>


Wow you guys.</P>


Raiders of the Lost Ark is maybe the greatest action film ever.</P>


</P>


It's crazy how advanced Lucas made films....
you watch Lost Ark, and you look at it like "1981? Bull****! this is easily a mid-90s movie</P>


I was 15 when I saw that flick....I remember being out of school for a month and a half due to kissing a girl that smelled like wet washcloth. I came down with mono -so bad-that just brushing my teeth would force me to sleep for a few hours. It was horrible. I recall seeing Raiders and a good Westpoint Army football game towards the end of my mono-bout.
</P>


I remember standing in line at the Paramount Theatre in West Springfiled, MA to see it, with my (then) wife.</P>

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:49 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out
Paralysis by overanalysis

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 10:51 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out


Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:52 AM
I was 15 when I saw that flick....I remember being out of school for a month and a half due to kissing a girl that smelled like wet washcloth. I came down with mono -so bad-that just brushing my teeth would force me to sleep for a few hours. It was horrible. I recall seeing Raiders and a good Westpoint Army football game towards the end of my mono-bout.
</p>


lmao....best story ever.

kinda reminded me of :
the week after the Giants won SB42, I was watching theparade after some morning classes, and I started to feel kinda achy...
I ended up having the flu so bad that week, that I couldn't sit up out of bed without rolling onto my side and flilnging my legs out. Everything was a chore.
That's when I adopted the philosophy of "sweating it out". I recommend it. I put on pants, and 2 shirts under a hoodie, and just sweat lol. it made me feel 100x better after the first day. lol</p>Good method...has worked sometimes for me, other times had me on the floor even weaker from de-hydration.

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 10:53 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out
Paralysis by overanalysis
</P>


My roommate and I are always complaining, that here we are, paying rent....whenI could just move to...well, a ****load of places, and afford to mortgage on a fairly large house. Like, probably less than I pay in rent, break even if I include taxes.
Kind of depressing...but that's NY for ya....</P>

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:53 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out


Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
Logic has no place in politics.

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 10:56 AM
POLL!!!

What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie?!?!
1) Raiders of the Lost Ark
2) The Temple of Doom
3) The Last Crusade</p>



I gotta go with Last Crusade....I just found it the most interesting, historically speaking. Lots of cool stuff! lol
Ark was excellent too though.
Although Temple of Doom was the first I recall seeing,it comes in 3rd....</p>


I gotta go with the first one...."indy, the floor moves!" ....looking into the pyramid filled with snakes.
</p>


Wow you guys.</p>


Raiders of the Lost Ark is maybe the greatest action film ever.</p>


</p>


It's crazy how advanced Lucas made films....
you watch Lost Ark, and you look at it like "1981? Bull****! this is easily a mid-90s movie</p>


I was 15 when I saw that flick....I remember being out of school for a month and a half due to kissing a girl that smelled like wet washcloth. I came down with mono -so bad-that just brushing my teeth would force me to sleep for a few hours. It was horrible. I recall seeing Raiders and a good Westpoint Army football game towards the end of my mono-bout.
</p>


I remember standing in line at the Paramount Theatre in West Springfiled, MA to see it, with my (then) wife.</p>ha, you bring back memmories. I think I saw that movie in November. I remember wearing my brown leather bomber jacket with fluffy collar and lamb wool lining while standing in line freezing. lmao.

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 10:57 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</P>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</P>

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 11:00 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:00 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out


Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.


yea well if some party didn't basically put us back in a huge debt whole while also leading americans off the edge of the cliffs - maybe we wouldn't have to extend unemployment and look for new avenues of making money

but ur right, obama is just being ghetto-rich spending money on rims and bling

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 11:01 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out
Paralysis by overanalysis
</p>


My roommate and I are always complaining, that here we are, paying rent....whenI could just move to...well, a ****load of places, and afford to mortgage on a fairly large house. Like, probably less than I pay in rent, break even if I include taxes.
Kind of depressing...but that's NY for ya....</p>Omg--Ny property and SCHOOL taxes are insane. My school district kinda sucks and it is very expensive. So much so---- that I will prob transfer daughter to a private HS in 10th grade and still have to continue paying these ****ing school taxes.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:01 AM
I GOT A QUARTER TANK OF GASSSSSSSSS

IN MY NEW E-CLASSSSSS

BUT I'M HOOD RICHHHHH

SO ITS ALRIIIIIIGHTTTTTTTTt

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 11:03 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out


Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.


yea well if some party didn't basically put us back in a huge debt whole while also leading americans off the edge of the cliffs - maybe we wouldn't have to extend unemployment and look for new avenues of making money

but ur right, obama is just being ghetto-rich spending money on <font size="6">rims and bling</font>


Where's that extra check that we used to get each year from the gov't? LT needs some NYG bling.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:04 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"


actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

do u think we need 200,000 army to fight a war against a gang that is spread out

Big numbers of soldiers are good for when u are fighting countries

but i'd say we need to take more intelligence to fight these terrorists. I would think how we caught Obama would of proved that after all the men and women and money spent by bush to juts flood across the pond with US bodies

But its cool u still think that having 100,000 in iraq is the way to fight htis war

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 11:04 AM
yea well if some party didn't basically put us back in a huge debt whole while also leading americans off the edge of the cliffs - maybe we wouldn't have to extend unemployment and look for new avenues of making money

Both parties


but ur right, obama is just being ghetto-rich spending money on rims and bling

Basically...yeah that IS what he's doing.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:05 AM
Maybe its just really expensive to find chicks willing to have a guy take a dump on.

well everything is more expensive in the tri-state
speaking of ......yesterday's poll had 1.5 million people leaving the state of ny for cheaper residences this year. California had 1.9 million.


But well keep raising them taxes right?

who cares that in the end you actually take in less revenue because people leave due to the high taxes...
True. Difficult to live here, even harder to raise a family.


i have a better idea...

lets do nothing and just hope it works out


Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.


yea well if some party didn't basically put us back in a huge debt whole while also leading americans off the edge of the cliffs - maybe we wouldn't have to extend unemployment and look for new avenues of making money

but ur right, obama is just being ghetto-rich spending money on <font size="6">rims and bling</font>


Where's that extra check that we used to get each year from the gov't? LT needs some NYG bling.


lol u mean that random 300 bucks bush sent to everybody to revive the economy?

That was nice of him lol

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 11:06 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</P>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</P>


already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"
</P>


yea i hear they cut it by $19 Billion. Wooo! Now it's down to $530 Billion.
Put in dent in that ****, ehh?!</P>

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 11:16 AM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</a>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 11:18 AM
lol u mean that random 300 bucks bush sent to everybody to revive the economy?

That was nice of him lol


whats the difference between that and the 3.27 TRILLION dollars Obama spent in stimulus spending...I see it's ok when Obama does it but when Bush does it it's wrong.

you are so hypocritical when it comes to politics it hurts.

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 11:22 AM
BTW Morehead I'm pretty sure I'm starting to trend towards Libertarian these days...and Ron Paul is looking more and more like the only reasonable choice lol.

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 11:28 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>


already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"
</p>


yea i hear they cut it by $19 Billion. Wooo! Now it's down to $530 Billion.
Put in dent in that ****, ehh?!</p>

530 Billion is nothing.

Obama just got them to raise the debt ceiling 2.4 Trillion.

here is a proposition, everyone agrees we are spending too much right? whether it be the Military or Entitlements right?

so lets just FREEZE spending for the next 10ish years to get control of the National Debt..I don't mean no spending...I mean spend what we spent this year...again...the same amount....just stop raising everything.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:32 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>


already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"
</p>


yea i hear they cut it by $19 Billion. Wooo! Now it's down to $530 Billion.
Put in dent in that ****, ehh?!</p>

530 Billion is nothing.

Obama just got them to raise the debt ceiling 2.4 Trillion.

here is a proposition, everyone agrees we are spending too much right? whether it be the Military or Entitlements right?

so lets just FREEZE spending for the next 10ish years to get control of the National Debt..I don't mean no spending...I mean spend what we spent this year...again...the same amount....just stop raising everything.




simple answer for an absolute complex question

if it were as easy as that then yea do it... but its not

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 11:33 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</P>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</P>


already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"
</P>


yea i hear they cut it by $19 Billion. Wooo! Now it's down to $530 Billion.
Put in dent in that ****, ehh?!</P>




530 Billion is nothing.

Obama just got them to raise the debt ceiling 2.4 Trillion.

here is a proposition, everyone agrees we are spending too much right? whether it be the Military or Entitlements right?

so lets just FREEZE spending for the next 10ish years to get control of the National Debt..I don't mean no spending...I mean spend what we spent this year...again...the same amount....just stop raising everything.


</P>


I wish we lived in a world where a half a trillion dollars "is nothing"

Has anyone ever watched Firefly or Serenity "They don't like us because we meddle"</P>


only reason I thought of that, was because that's the reason we need a military. To **** with things going on around us that we literally can not afford to **** with.
Kinda wish that our military was like...I don't know how to word it...but like, a exclusive club, that only the best and smartestcould get into. Instead we pay 3 million people,a tonof which who are a bunch of uneducated******s looking for a ride out of town to run and operate a delicate machine.
The American Dream!! lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:34 AM
lol u mean that random 300 bucks bush sent to everybody to revive the economy?

That was nice of him lol


whats the difference between that and the 3.27 TRILLION dollars Obama spent in stimulus spending...I see it's ok when Obama does it but when Bush does it it's wrong.

you are so hypocritical when it comes to politics it hurts.

U think handing people 300 bucks was a better way to do things?

im pretty sure my 300 bucks went to my bookie at the time - no joke

im pretty sure other friends of mine bought blow with it...

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 11:35 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"


actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

do u think we need 200,000 army to fight a war against a gang that is spread out

Big numbers of soldiers are good for when u are fighting countries

but i'd say we need to take more intelligence to fight these terrorists. I would think how we caught Obama would of proved that after all the men and women and money spent by bush to juts flood across the pond with US bodies

But its cool u still think that having 100,000 in iraq is the way to fight htis war

first i get a kick how you try and sell the wars like they were strictly republican wars. news flash: over half the dems voted to go to war. both in afghan and iraq. please spare me the bush lied bs. billy boy thought iraq had already acquired the tech to make wmd in 98. and both were right, they did have the tech. just not enough time. its 8 years later, if we never invaded wed have 2 psychos in that region looking for nukes, saddam possibly could of made one in that time.

and correct me if im wrong, but didnt the surge in iraq work? and what is a surge? adding more troops. the media and politicians run this war. thats why its taking so long. the media only reports when we loose troops. so of course people are going to think were "losing" but far from it. iraqs economy is doing better than ours and violence is down over 80%. but of course the left wing media tries to prove other wise. pathetic. and if you dont think ending a dictatorship thats responsible for killing millions thats your prerogative. but yes it is time to draw down troops in iraq (and we did but obama lied and said all troops) to about 50000 as support and let the iraqi army assume control.

now afghan. this is a mountainous hell hole. but again i believe were winning. the taliban dreads firefights with us just like shiets and sunnis in iraq and just like iraq they wage a guerrilla war because they know the american public cant stomach a long war. so obama uses a surge of his own but takes over 30 days to decide while the whole world watches (including the taliban and al qaida) and goes against his top general whos been fighting since day one. can you really say thats not being arrogant or foolish?? did bush mishandle this war? yea with out a doubt. 2 front war is never good, BUT he knew we had to kill the enemy

all the while the taliban kidnap civilians or make their family travel with them so we wont shoot at them because of obamas new rules of engagement because he doesnt want any more negative press, he has an election coming up. theyre not stupid, as soon as you let the enemy dictate OUR terms of engagement youre in trouble.
luckily we took out obl and many other high officials over the years and al qaida is weak. BUT if we pull out now the taliban will come out from the hills and start slaughtering the afghan people. we must hunt them down and kill them. that should be our mission from here on out.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:37 AM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</a>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate Bill Maher but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:39 AM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</a>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate Bill Maher but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there


and the bottom feeders will always bototm feed.

Yesterday u give me argument about unemployment and then come back with Welfare and Medicaid. IObviously there are people that abuse that, but right now, more than ever this stuff is needed.

Plenmty of good americans can't find work and need something to get by.

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 11:42 AM
simple answer for an absolute complex question

if it were as easy as that then yea do it... but its not


that's because it was a trick question....

you say yeah do it right?

if it was done it would be considered a 9 TRILLION Dollar CUT by te CBO...you don't even understand how government spending is calculated, the Dems are FREAKING OUT about 1 Trillion dollars worth of cuts right now that the republicans forced them to put into the bill that was raising the debt limit (IE spending) by 2.4 Trillion...

this is what I'm talking about, you claim to be a Dem right? but you don't even understand what the Dem's are arguing for in the first place...you lack of knowledge pisses me off, cause I know you are making your decision on who to vote for on misleading information.

Right now at the current rate, our Debt is going to go from 14 Trillion to 23 Trillion dollars by 2015, it was 5 Trillion in 2000 Matt, we've amassed 10 Trillion dollars of debt in 10 years...it took us 224 Years to make 5 Trillion dollars worth of debt...then 10 years to make 10 Trillion more...and now 4 years (at the current rate...the OBAMA rate) to make 9 Trillion dollars more....it's literally INSANE.

Bush was bad, Obama is orders of magnitude worse....both the Republicans and Democrats are spending WAY WAY WAY too much....no amount of tax increase can solve this problem...Cut's are what's needed...want to raise taxes too...fine whatever...but it won't solve anything and only make it harder because people are already sick and tired of paying for everyone else....they WILL leave...and we will collect LESS money by raising taxes.

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 11:44 AM
BTW Morehead I'm pretty sure I'm starting to trend towards Libertarian these days...and Ron Paul is looking more and more like the only reasonable choice lol.
</P>


Well I "lean" Libertarian because I believe in smaller government in general. The more power government has, the less power we have.</P>


Soas a true "small government" conservative, I also believe that we need to have people run their personal lives without government intrusion as well. These religious right people drive me nuts. Keep religion out of politics.</P>


As for our wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya, we really need to reassess our role in the world. We can't be the worlds policeman, and we can't be invading countries because we don't like their policies.</P>


Smaller government at home, and smaller government abroad.</P>

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 11:44 AM
lol u mean that random 300 bucks bush sent to everybody to revive the economy?

That was nice of him lol


whats the difference between that and the 3.27 TRILLION dollars Obama spent in stimulus spending...I see it's ok when Obama does it but when Bush does it it's wrong.

you are so hypocritical when it comes to politics it hurts.

U think handing people 300 bucks was a better way to do things?

im pretty sure my 300 bucks went to my bookie at the time - no joke

im pretty sure other friends of mine bought blow with it...


No, I Think they are both ****ty ways to do it Matt...but you know, if Drugs were legalized that 300 dollars spent towards Blow would have been a boost to the economy...

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 11:45 AM
ugghh, turns out my knee pain was from Lyme Disease. Think I got bit @ July 4th. Anyway, I can walk with no pain now. I have been on Doxycyline 2x day since 7/24. Really strong ****....and you have to take on a empty stomach--I took one at 10:30 and I am was nauseas for the past half hour, I can't move.

oh---and it takes the *** right outa ya too. sorry if tmi. I have 2.5 weeks left.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:45 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"


actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

do u think we need 200,000 army to fight a war against a gang that is spread out

Big numbers of soldiers are good for when u are fighting countries

but i'd say we need to take more intelligence to fight these terrorists. I would think how we caught Obama would of proved that after all the men and women and money spent by bush to juts flood across the pond with US bodies

But its cool u still think that having 100,000 in iraq is the way to fight htis war

first i get a kick how you try and sell the wars like they were strictly republican wars. news flash: over half the dems voted to go to war. both in afghan and iraq. please spare me the bush lied bs. billy boy thought iraq had already acquired the tech to make wmd in 98. and both were right, they did have the tech. just not enough time. its 8 years later, if we never invaded wed have 2 psychos in that region looking for nukes, saddam possibly could of made one in that time.

and correct me if im wrong, but didnt the surge in iraq work? and what is a surge? adding more troops. the media and politicians run this war. thats why its taking so long. the media only reports when we loose troops. so of course people are going to think were "losing" but far from it. iraqs economy is doing better than ours and violence is down over 80%. but of course the left wing media tries to prove other wise. pathetic. and if you dont think ending a dictatorship thats responsible for killing millions thats your prerogative. but yes it is time to draw down troops in iraq (and we did but obama lied and said all troops) to about 50000 as support and let the iraqi army assume control.

now afghan. this is a mountainous hell hole. but again i believe were winning. the taliban dreads firefights with us just like shiets and sunnis in iraq and just like iraq they wage a guerrilla war because they know the american public cant stomach a long war. they also kidnap civilians or make their family travel with them so we wont shoot at them because of obamas new rules of engagement because he doesnt want any more negative press, he has an election coming up. theyre not stupid, as soon as you let the enemy dictate OUR terms of engagement youre in trouble.
luckily we took out obl and many other high officials over the years and al qaida is weak. BUT if we pull out now the taliban will come out from the hills and start slaughtering the afghan people. we must hunt them down and kill them. that should be our mission from here on out.




Its a republican war because it was ar epublican president

and most people that were for the war at the time ended up changing their stance after more information was released. I love how every step of the way the republican party tries to not take any responsibility for Bush.

The surge worked in Iraq because we went to war against Iraq. Still trying to figure that one out.

But how about all the troops in afganny and how long we were in Iraq.


We are winning? What are we winning in afghanistan?


And I agree... u don't need armies to do that. You need specialists and smaller intellgience groups. It would probably be alot easier

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 11:45 AM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</A>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate Bill Maher but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there
</P>


The intelligence community hates our President. This I have first hand knowledge of.</P>


He has made it very difficult for them to do their jobs.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:46 AM
lol u mean that random 300 bucks bush sent to everybody to revive the economy?

That was nice of him lol


whats the difference between that and the 3.27 TRILLION dollars Obama spent in stimulus spending...I see it's ok when Obama does it but when Bush does it it's wrong.

you are so hypocritical when it comes to politics it hurts.

U think handing people 300 bucks was a better way to do things?

im pretty sure my 300 bucks went to my bookie at the time - no joke

im pretty sure other friends of mine bought blow with it...


No, I Think they are both ****ty ways to do it Matt...but you know, if Drugs were legalized that 300 dollars spent towards Blow would have been a boost to the economy...



yea let coke become legal and stay at 50 a bag

im sure that would really bounce americans out of debt lol

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:46 AM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</a>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate Bill Maher but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there
</p>


The intelligence community hates our President. This I have first hand knowledge of.</p>


He has made it very difficult for them to do their jobs.</p>

lol whose ur first hand knowledge?

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:49 AM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</a>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate Bill Maher but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there
</p>


The intelligence community hates our President. This I have first hand knowledge of.</p>


He has made it very difficult for them to do their jobs.</p>

and even so i know plenty of soldiers that felt like they were sent to faught an un needed war

so we can play this game all day

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 11:49 AM
on a side note - Plax already tweaked his ankle

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 11:51 AM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</A>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate Bill Maher but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there
</P>


The intelligence community hates our President. This I have first hand knowledge of.</P>


He has made it very difficult for them to do their jobs.</P>




and even so i know plenty of soldiers that felt like they were sent to faught an un needed war

so we can play this game all day
</P>


If they were in Iraq, I agree with them.</P>

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 11:54 AM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</a>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate <u>Bill Maher</u> but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there
lol whyyyy? cause russia is still our enemy. the cold wars just starting to heat up again and nobody wants to talk about it. do yourself a favor, seriously. stop watching bill maher. that guy is literally clueless like all hollywood libs. its NOT NEWS.

and another thing. its called joooooobs, serving in the military is job, something we need in this country. thats why maher has no clue what hes talking about.

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 11:55 AM
on a side note - Plax already tweaked his ankle
lol get the hell outa here...seriously??? hahahaa

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 11:55 AM
and the bottom feeders will always bototm feed.

The problem is entitlement programs, the way they are now, CREATE bottom feeders....people look at their options....

They could work a retail job and make 400 dollars a week then pay 150+ of that towards ..Unemployment towards social security towards healthcare... and go home with 250$...OR that same person can sit home and collect unemployment for 2+ years (and with loop holes actually they can collect forever) and make 250 Dollars a week...save the money on gas...never have to work...they are looking at these options and saying...<font color="#0000FF">"Hey it makes more sense for me to be unemployed...my life will be BETTER if I <u>don't</u> work" </font>people who WOULD otherwise work choose not to, and by making that decision...OUR taxes go up....because you and me are now paying for him.


Yesterday u give me argument about unemployment and then come back with Welfare and Medicaid. IObviously there are people that abuse that, but right now, more than ever this stuff is needed.

NO MATT right now more then ever it needs to be CUT, by cutting it the taxes will lower on companies afraid to hire people right now because they can't afford the extra taxes that hire would cause....CUT the entitlements lower the tax rates...more people have jobs...thus less people that need the entitlements and the system spirals upwards....put more money into those programs...companies start laying people off to save money...more people end up on the entitlements and the system spirals downward.


Plenmty of good americans can't find work and need something to get by.

And the REASON they can't find work, is because Companies aren't hiring, and the REASON Companies aren't hiring is because Taxes are too high....and the REASON taxes are too high is because we are spending too much money on Entitlement programs....and the REASON we are spending too much money on entitlment programs....is because the government SUCKS at spending money...they are inefficient at it.

Cut these programs drastically...we automatically solve this problem but noone wants to do it...not the Dems OR the Republicans.

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 11:58 AM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"


actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

do u think we need 200,000 army to fight a war against a gang that is spread out

Big numbers of soldiers are good for when u are fighting countries

but i'd say we need to take more intelligence to fight these terrorists. I would think how we caught Obama would of proved that after all the men and women and money spent by bush to juts flood across the pond with US bodies

But its cool u still think that having 100,000 in iraq is the way to fight htis war

first i get a kick how you try and sell the wars like they were strictly republican wars. news flash: over half the dems voted to go to war. both in afghan and iraq. please spare me the bush lied bs. billy boy thought iraq had already acquired the tech to make wmd in 98. and both were right, they did have the tech. just not enough time. its 8 years later, if we never invaded wed have 2 psychos in that region looking for nukes, saddam possibly could of made one in that time.

and correct me if im wrong, but didnt the surge in iraq work? and what is a surge? adding more troops. the media and politicians run this war. thats why its taking so long. the media only reports when we loose troops. so of course people are going to think were "losing" but far from it. iraqs economy is doing better than ours and violence is down over 80%. but of course the left wing media tries to prove other wise. pathetic. and if you dont think ending a dictatorship thats responsible for killing millions thats your prerogative. but yes it is time to draw down troops in iraq (and we did but obama lied and said all troops) to about 50000 as support and let the iraqi army assume control.

now afghan. this is a mountainous hell hole. but again i believe were winning. the taliban dreads firefights with us just like shiets and sunnis in iraq and just like iraq they wage a guerrilla war because they know the american public cant stomach a long war. they also kidnap civilians or make their family travel with them so we wont shoot at them because of obamas new rules of engagement because he doesnt want any more negative press, he has an election coming up. theyre not stupid, as soon as you let the enemy dictate OUR terms of engagement youre in trouble.
luckily we took out obl and many other high officials over the years and al qaida is weak. BUT if we pull out now the taliban will come out from the hills and start slaughtering the afghan people. we must hunt them down and kill them. that should be our mission from here on out.




<u>Its a republican war because it was ar epublican president</u>

and most people that were for the war at the time ended up changing their stance after more information was released. I love how every step of the way the republican party tries to not take any responsibility for Bush.

The surge worked in Iraq because we went to war against Iraq. Still trying to figure that one out.

But how about all the troops in afganny and how long we were in Iraq.


We are winning? What are we winning in afghanistan?


And I agree... u don't need armies to do that. You need specialists and smaller intellgience groups. It would probably be alot easier
sorry buddy but it takes congress to go to war. unless your obama. hows lybia going by the way???

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 12:00 PM
Just married! Want to scream with joy atop the highest mountain, but Reddit will have to do for now (http://i.imgur.com/d3ua7.jpg)

Childhood Babar Fans. Diff strokes for Diff Folks. I wish them the best of Luck. [:)] Lunch time brb

http://i.imgur.com/d3ua7.jpg

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 12:00 PM
and the bottom feeders will always bototm feed.

The problem is entitlement programs, the way they are now, CREATE bottom feeders....people look at their options....

They could work a retail job and make 400 dollars a week then pay 150+ of that towards ..Unemployment towards social security towards healthcare... and go home with 350$...OR that same person can sit home and collect unemployment for 2+ years (and with loop holes actually they can collect forever) and make 250 Dollars a week...save the money on gas...never have to work...they are looking at these options and saying...<FONT color=#0000ff>"Hey it makes more sense for me to be unemployed...my life will be BETTER if I <U>don't</U> work" </FONT>people who WOULD otherwise work choose not to, and by making that decision...OUR taxes go up....because you and me are now paying for him.


Yesterday u give me argument about unemployment and then come back with Welfare and Medicaid. IObviously there are people that abuse that, but right now, more than ever this stuff is needed.

NO MATT right now more then ever it needs to be CUT, by cutting it the taxes will lower on companies afraid to hire people right now because they can't afford the extra taxes that hire would cause....CUT the entitlements lower the tax rates...more people have jobs...thus less people that need the entitlements and the system spirals upwards....put more money into those programs...companies start laying people off to save money...more people end up on the entitlements and the system spirals downward.


Plenmty of good americans can't find work and need something to get by.

And the REASON they can't find work, is because Companies aren't hiring, and the REASON Companies aren't hiring is because Taxes are too high....and the REASON taxes are too high is because we are spending too much money on Entitlement programs....and the REASON we are spending too much money on entitlment programs....is because the government SUCKS at spending money...they are inefficient at it.

Cut these programs drastically...we automatically solve this problem but noone wants to do it...not the Dems OR the Republicans.
</P>


1. We have the second highest corporate taxes in the world.</P>


2. In reality, corporations don't really pay taxes because they pass the expenses onto the market in higher prices. The consumer always pays the corporate taxes indirectly. ALWAYS.</P>


3. A business unfriendly environment (like ours) causes slow growth and high unemployment. Thats Adam Smith 101.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 12:08 PM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"


actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

do u think we need 200,000 army to fight a war against a gang that is spread out

Big numbers of soldiers are good for when u are fighting countries

but i'd say we need to take more intelligence to fight these terrorists. I would think how we caught Obama would of proved that after all the men and women and money spent by bush to juts flood across the pond with US bodies

But its cool u still think that having 100,000 in iraq is the way to fight htis war

first i get a kick how you try and sell the wars like they were strictly republican wars. news flash: over half the dems voted to go to war. both in afghan and iraq. please spare me the bush lied bs. billy boy thought iraq had already acquired the tech to make wmd in 98. and both were right, they did have the tech. just not enough time. its 8 years later, if we never invaded wed have 2 psychos in that region looking for nukes, saddam possibly could of made one in that time.

and correct me if im wrong, but didnt the surge in iraq work? and what is a surge? adding more troops. the media and politicians run this war. thats why its taking so long. the media only reports when we loose troops. so of course people are going to think were "losing" but far from it. iraqs economy is doing better than ours and violence is down over 80%. but of course the left wing media tries to prove other wise. pathetic. and if you dont think ending a dictatorship thats responsible for killing millions thats your prerogative. but yes it is time to draw down troops in iraq (and we did but obama lied and said all troops) to about 50000 as support and let the iraqi army assume control.

now afghan. this is a mountainous hell hole. but again i believe were winning. the taliban dreads firefights with us just like shiets and sunnis in iraq and just like iraq they wage a guerrilla war because they know the american public cant stomach a long war. they also kidnap civilians or make their family travel with them so we wont shoot at them because of obamas new rules of engagement because he doesnt want any more negative press, he has an election coming up. theyre not stupid, as soon as you let the enemy dictate OUR terms of engagement youre in trouble.
luckily we took out obl and many other high officials over the years and al qaida is weak. BUT if we pull out now the taliban will come out from the hills and start slaughtering the afghan people. we must hunt them down and kill them. that should be our mission from here on out.




<u>Its a republican war because it was ar epublican president</u>

and most people that were for the war at the time ended up changing their stance after more information was released. I love how every step of the way the republican party tries to not take any responsibility for Bush.

The surge worked in Iraq because we went to war against Iraq. Still trying to figure that one out.

But how about all the troops in afganny and how long we were in Iraq.


We are winning? What are we winning in afghanistan?


And I agree... u don't need armies to do that. You need specialists and smaller intellgience groups. It would probably be alot easier
sorry buddy but it takes congress to go to war. unless your obama. hows lybia going by the way???


that or if ur a part of Nato trying to uphold the UN Resolution

but dind't ur boy bush declare a war on terror? Then im pretty sure hunting Al Quada in.

Its more of a UN war, which we are apart of

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 12:11 PM
and the bottom feeders will always bototm feed.

The problem is entitlement programs, the way they are now, CREATE bottom feeders....people look at their options....

They could work a retail job and make 400 dollars a week then pay 150+ of that towards ..Unemployment towards social security towards healthcare... and go home with 250$...OR that same person can sit home and collect unemployment for 2+ years (and with loop holes actually they can collect forever) and make 250 Dollars a week...save the money on gas...never have to work...they are looking at these options and saying...<font color="#0000ff">"Hey it makes more sense for me to be unemployed...my life will be BETTER if I <u>don't</u> work" </font>people who WOULD otherwise work choose not to, and by making that decision...OUR taxes go up....because you and me are now paying for him.


Yesterday u give me argument about unemployment and then come back with Welfare and Medicaid. IObviously there are people that abuse that, but right now, more than ever this stuff is needed.

NO MATT right now more then ever it needs to be CUT, by cutting it the taxes will lower on companies afraid to hire people right now because they can't afford the extra taxes that hire would cause....CUT the entitlements lower the tax rates...more people have jobs...thus less people that need the entitlements and the system spirals upwards....put more money into those programs...companies start laying people off to save money...more people end up on the entitlements and the system spirals downward.


Plenmty of good americans can't find work and need something to get by.

And the REASON they can't find work, is because Companies aren't hiring, and the REASON Companies aren't hiring is because Taxes are too high....and the REASON taxes are too high is because we are spending too much money on Entitlement programs....and the REASON we are spending too much money on entitlment programs....is because the government SUCKS at spending money...they are inefficient at it.

Cut these programs drastically...we automatically solve this problem but noone wants to do it...not the Dems OR the Republicans.


lol so it unemployment up because it pays better or because theres no jobs

pick ur story and then stick to it. I'll let u respond to that before i respond.


The reason companies aren't hiring is because of greed. Make no mistake on that. God forbid they don't make as much as they did last yea rin the recession. Bottom line is big company gets enough breaks and they don't relay it to the people

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 12:12 PM
and the bottom feeders will always bototm feed.

The problem is entitlement programs, the way they are now, CREATE bottom feeders....people look at their options....

They could work a retail job and make 400 dollars a week then pay 150+ of that towards ..Unemployment towards social security towards healthcare... and go home with 350$...OR that same person can sit home and collect unemployment for 2+ years (and with loop holes actually they can collect forever) and make 250 Dollars a week...save the money on gas...never have to work...they are looking at these options and saying...<font color="#0000ff">"Hey it makes more sense for me to be unemployed...my life will be BETTER if I <u>don't</u> work" </font>people who WOULD otherwise work choose not to, and by making that decision...OUR taxes go up....because you and me are now paying for him.


Yesterday u give me argument about unemployment and then come back with Welfare and Medicaid. IObviously there are people that abuse that, but right now, more than ever this stuff is needed.

NO MATT right now more then ever it needs to be CUT, by cutting it the taxes will lower on companies afraid to hire people right now because they can't afford the extra taxes that hire would cause....CUT the entitlements lower the tax rates...more people have jobs...thus less people that need the entitlements and the system spirals upwards....put more money into those programs...companies start laying people off to save money...more people end up on the entitlements and the system spirals downward.


Plenmty of good americans can't find work and need something to get by.

And the REASON they can't find work, is because Companies aren't hiring, and the REASON Companies aren't hiring is because Taxes are too high....and the REASON taxes are too high is because we are spending too much money on Entitlement programs....and the REASON we are spending too much money on entitlment programs....is because the government SUCKS at spending money...they are inefficient at it.

Cut these programs drastically...we automatically solve this problem but noone wants to do it...not the Dems OR the Republicans.
</p>


1. We have the second highest corporate taxes in the world.</p>


2. In reality, corporations don't really pay taxes because they pass the expenses onto the market in higher prices. The consumer always pays the corporate taxes indirectly. ALWAYS.</p>


3. A business unfriendly environment (like ours) causes slow growth and high unemployment. Thats Adam Smith 101.</p>

so whose side are u on here

byron
08-04-2011, 12:14 PM
and the bottom feeders will always bototm feed.

The problem is entitlement programs, the way they are now, CREATE bottom feeders....people look at their options....

They could work a retail job and make 400 dollars a week then pay 150+ of that towards ..Unemployment towards social security towards healthcare... and go home with 350$...OR that same person can sit home and collect unemployment for 2+ years (and with loop holes actually they can collect forever) and make 250 Dollars a week...save the money on gas...never have to work...they are looking at these options and saying...<FONT color=#0000ff>"Hey it makes more sense for me to be unemployed...my life will be BETTER if I <U>don't</U> work" </FONT>people who WOULD otherwise work choose not to, and by making that decision...OUR taxes go up....because you and me are now paying for him.


Yesterday u give me argument about unemployment and then come back with Welfare and Medicaid. IObviously there are people that abuse that, but right now, more than ever this stuff is needed.

NO MATT right now more then ever it needs to be CUT, by cutting it the taxes will lower on companies afraid to hire people right now because they can't afford the extra taxes that hire would cause....CUT the entitlements lower the tax rates...more people have jobs...thus less people that need the entitlements and the system spirals upwards....put more money into those programs...companies start laying people off to save money...more people end up on the entitlements and the system spirals downward.


Plenmty of good americans can't find work and need something to get by.

And the REASON they can't find work, is because Companies aren't hiring, and the REASON Companies aren't hiring is because Taxes are too high....and the REASON taxes are too high is because we are spending too much money on Entitlement programs....and the REASON we are spending too much money on entitlment programs....is because the government SUCKS at spending money...they are inefficient at it.

Cut these programs drastically...we automatically solve this problem but noone wants to do it...not the Dems OR the Republicans.
</P>


1. We have the second highest corporate taxes in the world.</P>


2. In reality, corporations don't really pay taxes because they pass the expenses onto the market in higher prices. The consumer always pays the corporate taxes indirectly. ALWAYS.</P>


3. A business unfriendly environment (like ours) causes slow growth and high unemployment. Thats Adam Smith 101.</P>you don't see the sickness here? corporate greed? so you make it frendly get more jobs and those people pay the taxes?

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 12:14 PM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"


actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

do u think we need 200,000 army to fight a war against a gang that is spread out

Big numbers of soldiers are good for when u are fighting countries

but i'd say we need to take more intelligence to fight these terrorists. I would think how we caught Obama would of proved that after all the men and women and money spent by bush to juts flood across the pond with US bodies

But its cool u still think that having 100,000 in iraq is the way to fight htis war

first i get a kick how you try and sell the wars like they were strictly republican wars. news flash: over half the dems voted to go to war. both in afghan and iraq. please spare me the bush lied bs. billy boy thought iraq had already acquired the tech to make wmd in 98. and both were right, they did have the tech. just not enough time. its 8 years later, if we never invaded wed have 2 psychos in that region looking for nukes, saddam possibly could of made one in that time.

and correct me if im wrong, but didnt the surge in iraq work? and what is a surge? adding more troops. the media and politicians run this war. thats why its taking so long. the media only reports when we loose troops. so of course people are going to think were "losing" but far from it. iraqs economy is doing better than ours and violence is down over 80%. but of course the left wing media tries to prove other wise. pathetic. and if you dont think ending a dictatorship thats responsible for killing millions thats your prerogative. but yes it is time to draw down troops in iraq (and we did but obama lied and said all troops) to about 50000 as support and let the iraqi army assume control.

now afghan. this is a mountainous hell hole. but again i believe were winning. the taliban dreads firefights with us just like shiets and sunnis in iraq and just like iraq they wage a guerrilla war because they know the american public cant stomach a long war. they also kidnap civilians or make their family travel with them so we wont shoot at them because of obamas new rules of engagement because he doesnt want any more negative press, he has an election coming up. theyre not stupid, as soon as you let the enemy dictate OUR terms of engagement youre in trouble.
luckily we took out obl and many other high officials over the years and al qaida is weak. BUT if we pull out now the taliban will come out from the hills and start slaughtering the afghan people. we must hunt them down and kill them. that should be our mission from here on out.




<u>Its a republican war because it was ar epublican president</u>

and most people that were for the war at the time ended up changing their stance after more information was released. I love how every step of the way the republican party tries to not take any responsibility for Bush.

The surge worked in Iraq because we went to war against Iraq. Still trying to figure that one out.

But how about all the troops in afganny and how long we were in Iraq.


We are winning? What are we winning in afghanistan?


And I agree... u don't need armies to do that. You need specialists and smaller intellgience groups. It would probably be alot easier
sorry buddy but it takes congress to go to war. unless your obama. hows lybia going by the way???


that or if ur a part of Nato trying to uphold the UN Resolution

but dind't ur boy bush declare a war on terror? Then im pretty sure hunting Al Quada in.

Its more of a UN war, which we are apart of
regardless of whos war it is, to participate in ANY miltary conflict unless its a direct threat to the us needs approval from congress.

this is really hillarys mess, she duped bam into this imo, but obamas the leader so.....

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 12:19 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</P>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</P>


One would think he could afford his own.</P>

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 12:23 PM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"


actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

do u think we need 200,000 army to fight a war against a gang that is spread out

Big numbers of soldiers are good for when u are fighting countries

but i'd say we need to take more intelligence to fight these terrorists. I would think how we caught Obama would of proved that after all the men and women and money spent by bush to juts flood across the pond with US bodies

But its cool u still think that having 100,000 in iraq is the way to fight htis war

first i get a kick how you try and sell the wars like they were strictly republican wars. news flash: over half the dems voted to go to war. both in afghan and iraq. please spare me the bush lied bs. billy boy thought iraq had already acquired the tech to make wmd in 98. and both were right, they did have the tech. just not enough time. its 8 years later, if we never invaded wed have 2 psychos in that region looking for nukes, saddam possibly could of made one in that time.

and correct me if im wrong, but didnt the surge in iraq work? and what is a surge? adding more troops. the media and politicians run this war. thats why its taking so long. the media only reports when we loose troops. so of course people are going to think were "losing" but far from it. iraqs economy is doing better than ours and violence is down over 80%. but of course the left wing media tries to prove other wise. pathetic. and if you dont think ending a dictatorship thats responsible for killing millions thats your prerogative. but yes it is time to draw down troops in iraq (and we did but obama lied and said all troops) to about 50000 as support and let the iraqi army assume control.

now afghan. this is a mountainous hell hole. but again i believe were winning. the taliban dreads firefights with us just like shiets and sunnis in iraq and just like iraq they wage a guerrilla war because they know the american public cant stomach a long war. they also kidnap civilians or make their family travel with them so we wont shoot at them because of obamas new rules of engagement because he doesnt want any more negative press, he has an election coming up. theyre not stupid, as soon as you let the enemy dictate OUR terms of engagement youre in trouble.
luckily we took out obl and many other high officials over the years and al qaida is weak. BUT if we pull out now the taliban will come out from the hills and start slaughtering the afghan people. we must hunt them down and kill them. that should be our mission from here on out.




<u>Its a republican war because it was ar epublican president</u>

and most people that were for the war at the time ended up changing their stance after more information was released. I love how every step of the way the republican party tries to not take any responsibility for Bush.

The surge worked in Iraq because we went to war against Iraq. Still trying to figure that one out.

But how about all the troops in afganny and how long we were in Iraq.


We are winning? What are we winning in afghanistan?


And I agree... u don't need armies to do that. You need specialists and smaller intellgience groups. It would probably be alot easier
sorry buddy but it takes congress to go to war. unless your obama. hows lybia going by the way???


that or if ur a part of Nato trying to uphold the UN Resolution

but dind't ur boy bush declare a war on terror? Then im pretty sure hunting Al Quada in.

Its more of a UN war, which we are apart of
and we ARE nato. lol natos a ****ing joke

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 12:33 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/02/026cd1accb30c64451ea117d6e9aaf9f/photo_this_guy_has_a_picture_of_john_elway_tattooe d_on_his_thigh.jpg

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 12:37 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/02/026cd1accb30c64451ea117d6e9aaf9f/photo_this_guy_has_a_picture_of_john_elway_tattooe d_on_his_thigh.jpglol woooow

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 12:38 PM
The reason companies aren't hiring is because of greed.

You sir are an idiot...I'm done, you are just so woefully uninformed there's no point in even trying to talk to you.

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 12:40 PM
1. We have the second highest corporate taxes in the world.


2. In reality, corporations don't really pay taxes because they pass the expenses onto the market in higher prices. The consumer always pays the corporate taxes indirectly. ALWAYS.</p>


3. A business unfriendly environment (like ours) causes slow growth and high unemployment. Thats Adam Smith 101.</p>

so whose side are u on here


The fact that you can't Tell Matt....is a little disheartening.

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 12:44 PM
Hey Morehead, I never knew who Adam Smith was before today...thanks for teaching me something.....do you recommend I read "The Wealth of Nations"? did you ever read it?

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 12:50 PM
1. We have the second highest corporate taxes in the world.


2. In reality, corporations don't really pay taxes because they pass the expenses onto the market in higher prices. The consumer always pays the corporate taxes indirectly. ALWAYS.</p>


3. A business unfriendly environment (like ours) causes slow growth and high unemployment. Thats Adam Smith 101.</p>you don't see the sickness here? corporate greed? so you make it frendly get more jobs and those people pay the taxes?

I don't get how anyone can come to the conclusion that corporate greed (which isn't even like..a thing) is responsible for this?

we have the 2nd highest tax rates for companies in the world, if American companies were greedy as you say....they wouldn't even BE here....they want to be here cause they are NOT greedy, but even still we are making it so that it's nearly impossible for them to turn a profit...it's like the government WANTS to cause unemployment at the moment....every move they've made since Obama stepped into office was like a gameplan set up to cause economic disaster and unemployment...I'm begining to buy into some of those conspiracy theories that say Obama wants the co lapse of America...everything he's doing is straight out of a book on how to kill an economy it's like he WANTS this.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 12:55 PM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</a>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate <u>Bill Maher</u> but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there
lol whyyyy? cause russia is still our enemy. the cold wars just starting to heat up again and nobody wants to talk about it. do yourself a favor, seriously. stop watching bill maher. that guy is literally clueless like all hollywood libs. its NOT NEWS.

and another thing. its called joooooobs, serving in the military is job, something we need in this country. thats why maher has no clue what hes talking about.


stoppp ittt... any tv personality is hollywood

Maher makes some dumb points but he also makes some good ones. I agree. I wonder how much it costs a year to be in Germany

i think ur going a bit far calling Russia an "enemy"

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 12:57 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/02/026cd1accb30c64451ea117d6e9aaf9f/photo_this_guy_has_a_picture_of_john_elway_tattooe d_on_his_thigh.jpglol woooow

Nothing like having John Elways face that close to your balls. lol

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 12:59 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>

LOL WHAT?!

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 12:59 PM
Or we could you know, Cut Spending instead of raising taxes.
</p>


*COUGH* Defense Budget *COUGH*</p>already been cut. if it was up to bam and the rest of the libs we wouldnt have a military. how about the 2 trillion healthcare plan that he was trying to sell as "FREE"


actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

do u think we need 200,000 army to fight a war against a gang that is spread out

Big numbers of soldiers are good for when u are fighting countries

but i'd say we need to take more intelligence to fight these terrorists. I would think how we caught Obama would of proved that after all the men and women and money spent by bush to juts flood across the pond with US bodies

But its cool u still think that having 100,000 in iraq is the way to fight htis war

first i get a kick how you try and sell the wars like they were strictly republican wars. news flash: over half the dems voted to go to war. both in afghan and iraq. please spare me the bush lied bs. billy boy thought iraq had already acquired the tech to make wmd in 98. and both were right, they did have the tech. just not enough time. its 8 years later, if we never invaded wed have 2 psychos in that region looking for nukes, saddam possibly could of made one in that time.

and correct me if im wrong, but didnt the surge in iraq work? and what is a surge? adding more troops. the media and politicians run this war. thats why its taking so long. the media only reports when we loose troops. so of course people are going to think were "losing" but far from it. iraqs economy is doing better than ours and violence is down over 80%. but of course the left wing media tries to prove other wise. pathetic. and if you dont think ending a dictatorship thats responsible for killing millions thats your prerogative. but yes it is time to draw down troops in iraq (and we did but obama lied and said all troops) to about 50000 as support and let the iraqi army assume control.

now afghan. this is a mountainous hell hole. but again i believe were winning. the taliban dreads firefights with us just like shiets and sunnis in iraq and just like iraq they wage a guerrilla war because they know the american public cant stomach a long war. they also kidnap civilians or make their family travel with them so we wont shoot at them because of obamas new rules of engagement because he doesnt want any more negative press, he has an election coming up. theyre not stupid, as soon as you let the enemy dictate OUR terms of engagement youre in trouble.
luckily we took out obl and many other high officials over the years and al qaida is weak. BUT if we pull out now the taliban will come out from the hills and start slaughtering the afghan people. we must hunt them down and kill them. that should be our mission from here on out.




<u>Its a republican war because it was ar epublican president</u>

and most people that were for the war at the time ended up changing their stance after more information was released. I love how every step of the way the republican party tries to not take any responsibility for Bush.

The surge worked in Iraq because we went to war against Iraq. Still trying to figure that one out.

But how about all the troops in afganny and how long we were in Iraq.


We are winning? What are we winning in afghanistan?


And I agree... u don't need armies to do that. You need specialists and smaller intellgience groups. It would probably be alot easier
sorry buddy but it takes congress to go to war. unless your obama. hows lybia going by the way???


that or if ur a part of Nato trying to uphold the UN Resolution

but dind't ur boy bush declare a war on terror? Then im pretty sure hunting Al Quada in.

Its more of a UN war, which we are apart of
and we ARE nato. lol natos a ****ing joke


thanks for ur opinion

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:01 PM
The reason companies aren't hiring is because of greed.

You sir are an idiot...I'm done, you are just so woefully uninformed there's no point in even trying to talk to you.





sticks and stones may break my bones, but OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012

<font color="#ffffff" size="6">
I love davening Daven</font>

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 01:04 PM
The reason companies aren't hiring is because of greed.

You sir are an idiot...I'm done, you are just so woefully uninformed there's no point in even trying to talk to you.





sticks and stones may break my bones, but OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012

<font color="#ffffff" size="6">
I love davening Daven</font>


I just hope your joking with the Obama for president 2012...I really don't want to see you lose your job.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:06 PM
maybe when hes president he can change the law that u can only serve 2 terms...

hopfully he can get re-elected in 2016 as well

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 01:12 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>I thought that story ended with Kanye not realizing it was hers? Can't remember.

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 01:12 PM
maybe when hes president he can change the law that u can only serve 2 terms...

hopfully he can get re-elected in 2016 as well


you're not as good at davening people as DavenIII you know.

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 01:13 PM
actually - and i'd love to hear ur reasoning for this

The Federal Governments reason for even being created...AT ALL....was to protect the citizens from outside threats.

Complaining about the wars is stupid....

Do I think we should spend what we spend on wars? no I think we probably spend to much...but having the biggest baddest Army/Navy/Air Force in the world PROTECTS us from harm....is it too much? maybe...I don't know neither do you....but when it comes to our safety yeah...I'm gonna air on the safer side.

The number one problem without a doubt (and I don't think it's even debatable anymore) is Government spending on entitlement programs like Welfare/Social Security and Medicare....not only are these programs incredibly wasteful, but they actually promote inactivity...Example a million or more of this guy.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XA2UUpXRk</a>

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=29 s

Our Government is pretty much telling people not to work, not to do anything and let the government just tax the people that are working so we can pay for these people.

more then 50% of Americans pay ZERO income tax Matt...

these systems simply do not work anymore...the Dem's don't want to do anything about it...most of the republicans don't either....but we gotta do something., we aren't going to have ANY Social Security when we retire Matt, Medicare costs are doubling over the course of 4 year in NY FOUR YEARS...and that's not gonna stop...that will double again 4 years after that...

our entitlement programs are growing at an unsustainable rate...but if anyone even entertains the idea of FIXING them....they are called terrorists...and it's insinuated that they want to throw grandma off a cliff.


bottom line this war vs terror isn't going to be won with a massive army.. it will be won with intelligence

these groups like al quada or whatever have you, don't hav ethe numbers, REAL training, or intelligence.

And i know u hate <u>Bill Maher</u> but honestly one thing he always says that makes sense - like why do we need to have a station in Germany or Italy. World War 2 is over. Tell me its not a complete wast eof money having a base over there
lol whyyyy? cause russia is still our enemy. the cold wars just starting to heat up again and nobody wants to talk about it. do yourself a favor, seriously. stop watching bill maher. that guy is literally clueless like all hollywood libs. its NOT NEWS.

and another thing. its called joooooobs, serving in the military is job, something we need in this country. thats why maher has no clue what hes talking about.


stoppp ittt... any tv personality is hollywood

Maher makes some dumb points but he also makes some good ones. I agree. I wonder how much it costs a year to be in Germany

i think ur going a bit far calling Russia an "enemy"
is that why theyre still spying on us? russia is still very much a threat. putin is ex kgb as well the rest of his cabinet. we keep troops in germany for that exact reason. in case russia tries anything we already have troops in the eastern hemisphere. and we keep troops in japan cause of korea. america has many enemies. why do you think they opposed that missile system program bush wanted to
set up? little did bam know he could of used that as a bargaining chip
to make russia sanction iran and korea. but no he just threw it out because he inexperienced

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 01:14 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/02/026cd1accb30c64451ea117d6e9aaf9f/photo_this_guy_has_a_picture_of_john_elway_tattooe d_on_his_thigh.jpglol woooow
That guy is some fan. His dog is lucky that they don't tatoo animals or it would be covered.

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 01:14 PM
Hey Morehead, I never knew who Adam Smith was before today...thanks for teaching me something.....do you recommend I read "The Wealth of Nations"? did you ever read it?
</P>


The Wealth of Nations is the cornerstone philosophy that has created the most prosperous country in the history of the planet.</P>


And Matt, I love you. Your my boy.But you are so wrong.The reason companies HIRE people is greed. If they believe that hiring people will enhance profits, they will hire. If they think it won't, they won't. Thats free market economics.</P>

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 01:14 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</P>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</P>


One would think he could afford his own.</P>


</P>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</P>

byron
08-04-2011, 01:15 PM
1. We have the second highest corporate taxes in the world.


2.<FONT color=#0000ff> In reality, corporations don't really pay taxes because they pass the expenses onto the market in higher prices. The consumer always pays the corporate taxes indirectly. ALWAYS.</FONT></P>


3. A business unfriendly environment (like ours) causes slow growth and high unemployment. Thats Adam Smith 101.</P>


you don't see the sickness here? corporate greed? so you make it frendly get more jobs and those people pay the taxes?

I don't get how anyone can come to the conclusion that corporate greed (which isn't even like..a thing) is responsible for this?

we have the 2nd highest tax rates for companies in the world, if American companies were greedy as you say....they wouldn't even BE here....they want to be here cause they are NOT greedy, but even still we are making it so that it's nearly impossible for them to turn a profit...it's like the government WANTS to cause unemployment at the moment....every move they've made since Obama stepped into office was like a gameplan set up to cause economic disaster and unemployment...I'm begining to buy into some of those conspiracy theories that say Obama wants the co lapse of America...everything he's doing is straight out of a book on how to kill an economy it's like he WANTS this.
</P>


Well I was speaking to Mh's second point they don't pay taxes they pass them on ..we pay in the end one way or the other ....</P>

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 01:17 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</P>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</P>


One would think he could afford his own.</P>




LOL WHAT?!
</P>


I told you guys that Kanya sat next to my daughter a few weeks ago on the train from Paris to London. But her tablet "suspisciously" dissappeared when she got off the train.</P>


Friggin theiving rap artist.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:19 PM
maybe when hes president he can change the law that u can only serve 2 terms...

hopfully he can get re-elected in 2016 as well


you're not as good at davening people as DavenIII you know.


"
You sir are an idiot...I'm done, you are just so woefully uninformed there's no point in even trying to talk to you."

once i see that, then i know i've won

http://obeygiant.com/images/2008/11/obama-victory.jpg

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 01:20 PM
Hey Morehead, I never knew who Adam Smith was before today...thanks for teaching me something.....do you recommend I read "The Wealth of Nations"? did you ever read it?
</p>


The Wealth of Nations is the cornerstone philosophy that has created the most prosperous country in the history of the planet.</p>


And Matt, I love you. Your my boy.But you are so wrong.The reason companies HIRE people is greed. If they believe that hiring people will enhance profits, they will hire. If they think it won't, they won't. Thats free market economics.</p>Correct, so the closer, more vital and more visible your position is to their PROFITS determines your level of job security. In my company they put up with alot of bs from me, you could say I am a problem child, because I CAN.

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 01:20 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</P>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</P>


One would think he could afford his own.</P>


</P>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</P>


</P>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</P>

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 01:20 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>




LOL WHAT?!
</p>


I told you guys that Kanya sat next to my daughter a few weeks ago on the train from Paris to London. But her tablet "suspisciously" dissappeared when she got off the train.</p>


<u>Friggin theiving rap artist.</u></p>lmao. if it makes you fill any better, not to many people like him anymore. i always thought he was ****. some of his beats were good but he was ****.

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 01:21 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>




LOL WHAT?!
</p>


I told you guys that Kanya sat next to my daughter a few weeks ago on the train from Paris to London. But her tablet "suspisciously" dissappeared when she got off the train.</p>


Friggin theiving rap artist.</p>Doesn't surprise me , lol. [;)]

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 01:22 PM
maybe when hes president he can change the law that u can only serve 2 terms...

hopfully he can get re-elected in 2016 as well


you're not as good at davening people as DavenIII you know.


"
You sir are an idiot...I'm done, you are just so woefully uninformed there's no point in even trying to talk to you."

once i see that, then i know i've won

http://obeygiant.com/images/2008/11/obama-victory.jpg
his failures far outweigh his successes. anyone who votes for him again is extremely foolish in my opinion after ALL of his broken promises.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:22 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>




LOL WHAT?!
</p>


I told you guys that Kanya sat next to my daughter a few weeks ago on the train from Paris to London. But her tablet "suspisciously" dissappeared when she got off the train.</p>


Friggin theiving rap artist.</p>

LMAO

go to TMZ with it

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 01:24 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>




LOL WHAT?!
</p>


I told you guys that Kanya sat next to my daughter a few weeks ago on the train from Paris to London. But her tablet "suspisciously" dissappeared when she got off the train.</p>


Friggin theiving rap artist.</p>

LMAO

go to TMZ with it
lol yea if she has pictures of her with him it would def get aired

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:25 PM
ohhh pleaaaaassssssseeeeeeeee


how many times did u vote for bush?

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 01:26 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>




LOL WHAT?!
</p>


I told you guys that Kanya sat next to my daughter a few weeks ago on the train from Paris to London. But her tablet "suspisciously" dissappeared when she got off the train.</p>


Friggin theiving rap artist.</p>

LMAO

go to TMZ with it
lol yea if she has pictures of her with him it would def get aired
Little MH should show up at one of his shows and demand it back.

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 01:27 PM
ohhh pleaaaaassssssseeeeeeeee


how many times did u vote for bush?


0

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 01:31 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>




LOL WHAT?!
</p>


I told you guys that Kanya sat next to my daughter a few weeks ago on the train from Paris to London. But her tablet "suspisciously" dissappeared when she got off the train.</p>


Friggin theiving rap artist.</p>

LMAO

go to TMZ with it
lol yea if she has pictures of her with him it would def get aired
Little MH should show up at one of his shows and demand it back.
i think mh himself should do it.

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1895/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1895-44615.jpg"somebody shoulda told ya kanye, i dont play dat ****"

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 01:41 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>




LOL WHAT?!
</p>


I told you guys that Kanya sat next to my daughter a few weeks ago on the train from Paris to London. But her tablet "suspisciously" dissappeared when she got off the train.</p>


Friggin theiving rap artist.</p>

LMAO

go to TMZ with it
lol yea if she has pictures of her with him it would def get aired
Little MH should show up at one of his shows and demand it back.
i think mh himself should do it.

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1895/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1895-44615.jpg"somebody shoulda told ya kanye, i dont play dat ****"The upgrade to pro glitch is working again! Nice grab &amp; dart Mario

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 01:42 PM
That's just wrong

http://i.imgur.com/Zb0j3.jpg

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 01:45 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</P>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</P>


One would think he could afford his own.</P>


</P>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</P>


</P>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</P>


</P>


I love that you hate him.....because I obviously do also.</P>

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 01:45 PM
Well I was speaking to Mh's second point they don't pay taxes they pass them on ..we pay in the end one way or the other ....

That's just how business works though, Business needs to make a certain profit margin...if taxes go out their profit goes down the way they keep their profit even is by transferring the tax hike to the customer.

The government increasing the taxes is the root problem...without the taxes being raised the company doesn't have to transfer the cost to the customer...

Business doesn't have a choice but to do that...if they just pay the higher taxes instead of transferring the cost their company ends up losing money and then they go out of business and no longer provide the service/product you wanted from them in the first place...

to make it simple...when Govt raises taxes...Big and Small Business needs to either raise the price you pay on their product service...or...eventually go bankrupt or shut down....

do you LIKE being able to buy stuff? if you do then you should blame government for high prices....if you want to be self sufficient (IE hunt for your food build your own house etc etc) then i guess it doesn't matter.

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 01:47 PM
lol yea if she has pictures of her with him it would def get aired
</P>


no it wouldnt. unless they did it just to call her racist.
I wouldnt waste my time or put my reputation on the line lol</P>

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 01:48 PM
ohhh pleaaaaassssssseeeeeeeee


how many times did u vote for bush?




1 Time, and that's not even comparable anyhow, Bush was bad Obama is 10 times as bad as Bush though.

if I knew what I know now then I probably never would have voted for him.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:48 PM
Giants DL Coach Rober tNunn said in 15 years of coaching in the NFL, hes never seen a DL like JPP "hes the only one"

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:49 PM
ohhh pleaaaaassssssseeeeeeeee


how many times did u vote for bush?




1 Time, and that's not even comparable anyhow, Bush was bad Obama is 10 times as bad as Bush though.


of course its not

because ur a republican talkins about a demo

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 01:49 PM
lol yea if she has pictures of her with him it would def get aired
</p>


no it wouldnt. unless they did it just to call her racist.
I wouldnt waste my time or put my reputation on the line lol</p>lol thats true, kanye loves the race card.

ny06
08-04-2011, 01:49 PM
http://data.whicdn.com/images/3887070/tumblr_l8pdy2ZWrB1qby9kmo1_500_thumb.png?128442945 6

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 01:50 PM
Giants DL Coach Rober tNunn said in 15 years of coaching in the NFL, hes never seen a DL like JPP "hes the only one"
</P>


I also hear that Austin has been tremendous.</P>


JPP is gunna be a great football player.</P>


</P>

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 01:52 PM
ohhh pleaaaaassssssseeeeeeeee


how many times did u vote for bush?




1 Time, and that's not even comparable anyhow, Bush was bad Obama is 10 times as bad as Bush though.


of course its not

because ur a republican talkins about a demo


No Matt.....it's got nothing to do with Republican or Democrat....first off I'm Conservative (or Libertarian) NOT Republican....secondly I'm just talking about results.

Obama has cause more debt and unemployment then Bush ...by A LOT because your a brainwashed democrat you blame that on bush...but that claim is just patently ridiculous...Obama is at fault for where we are right now...and where we are right now is about to go into a double dip recession...(actually we were never out of the recession in the first place) Obama is the most irresponsible president in the HISTORY of America.....Republican or Democrat.

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 01:53 PM
Giants DL Coach Rober tNunn said in 15 years of coaching in the NFL, hes never seen a DL like JPP "hes the only one"
</P>


did he care to elaborate? lol

I mean i know he's been described as "a freak of nature" since college....but what is it about him that makes ppl say that? He IS an incredible combination of speed and power....but is that it? is that what they mean?</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:53 PM
lando

fear me at the 12 spot

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 01:53 PM
lol yea if she has pictures of her with him it would def get aired
</P>


no it wouldnt. unless they did it just to call her racist.
I wouldnt waste my time or put my reputation on the line lol</P>


lol thats true, kanye loves the race card.
</P>


Remember this gem.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 01:54 PM
Giants DL Coach Rober tNunn said in 15 years of coaching in the NFL, hes never seen a DL like JPP "hes the only one"
</p>


did he care to elaborate? lol

I mean i know he's been described as "a freak of nature" since college....but what is it about him that makes ppl say that? He IS an incredible combination of speed and power....but is that it? is that what they mean?</p>

no clue, took it off a twitter post

dezzzR
08-04-2011, 01:56 PM
http://data.whicdn.com/images/3887070/tumblr_l8pdy2ZWrB1qby9kmo1_500_thumb.png?128442945 6"ima maa****in woooordsmith" lmao.

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 01:59 PM
Giants DL Coach Rober tNunn said in 15 years of coaching in the NFL, hes never seen a DL like JPP "hes the only one"
</P>


did he care to elaborate? lol

I mean i know he's been described as "a freak of nature" since college....but what is it about him that makes ppl say that? He IS an incredible combination of speed and power....but is that it? is that what they mean?</P>

no clue, took it off a twitter post

Twitter will ruin your life.

byron
08-04-2011, 02:01 PM
Well I was speaking to Mh's second point they don't pay taxes they pass them on ..we pay in the end one way or the other ....

That's just how business works though, Business needs to make a certain profit margin...if taxes go out their profit goes down the way they keep their profit even is by transferring the tax hike to the customer.

The government increasing the taxes is the root problem...without the taxes being raised the company doesn't have to transfer the cost to the customer...

Business doesn't have a choice but to do that...if they just pay the higher taxes instead of transferring the cost their company ends up losing money and then they go out of business and no longer provide the service/product you wanted from them in the first place...

to make it simple...when Govt raises taxes...Big and Small Business needs to either raise the price you pay on their product service...or...eventually go bankrupt or shut down....

do you LIKE being able to buy stuff? if you do then you should blame government for high prices....if you want to be self sufficient (IE hunt for your food build your own house etc etc) then i guess it doesn't matter.
How many company's and such has our tax dollars bailed out over the years....But what ever..thing is after two hundred years one would think they woud have all this figured out ..no? Or at least the basic's....greed is the problem....

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 02:02 PM
Giants DL Coach Rober tNunn said in 15 years of coaching in the NFL, hes never seen a DL like JPP "hes the only one"
I can't wait to see huge things from this kid.

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 02:04 PM
Well I was speaking to Mh's second point they don't pay taxes they pass them on ..we pay in the end one way or the other ....

That's just how business works though, Business needs to make a certain profit margin...if taxes go out their profit goes down the way they keep their profit even is by transferring the tax hike to the customer.

The government increasing the taxes is the root problem...without the taxes being raised the company doesn't have to transfer the cost to the customer...

Business doesn't have a choice but to do that...if they just pay the higher taxes instead of transferring the cost their company ends up losing money and then they go out of business and no longer provide the service/product you wanted from them in the first place...

to make it simple...when Govt raises taxes...Big and Small Business needs to either raise the price you pay on their product service...or...eventually go bankrupt or shut down....

do you LIKE being able to buy stuff? if you do then you should blame government for high prices....if you want to be self sufficient (IE hunt for your food build your own house etc etc) then i guess it doesn't matter.
How many company's and such has our tax dollars bailed out over the years....But what ever..thing is after two hundred years one would think they woud have all this figured out ..no? Or at least the basic's....greed is the problem....</P>


Only the one's who finance Presidential campaigns.</P>


Greed has nothing to do with it.</P>


</P>

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 02:05 PM
How many company's and such has our tax dollars bailed out over the years....But what ever..thing is after two hundred years one would think they woud have all this figured out ..no? Or at least the basic's....greed is the problem....

Greed is not the problem though...that much has been made clear.

the problem is Government...

I agree with you we should NEVER bail out companies...our country has bankruptcy laws for a reason...how do these companies get bailed out?

the Government...that's the problem.
why did the housing market crash....the Government "told" banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them....if the government never got involved "greedy" banks would not have given those loans because they would have lost money.

Greed is in fact a GOOD thing for you and for me Byron....including Corporate Greed....it's how our system works and it's what's made America so successful for so many years....punishing greed...which is what we've been doing for the last 10+ years...that's the problem...the Government intrusion is the problem...Greed is actually the solution.

and I'm only using the word greed because you guys are...there is not such thing really as greed in a capitalistic system....being too greedy as in setting your prices to high for a product or service does not work in this system....because a competing company will do the same thing for less and the "greedy" company will go out of business.

lttaylor56
08-04-2011, 02:06 PM
http://data.whicdn.com/images/3887070/tumblr_l8pdy2ZWrB1qby9kmo1_500_thumb.png?128442945 6"ima maa****in woooordsmith" lmao.
You got "wordsmith" from yesterday's Daven's Headstrong chick. Cool word though.

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 02:10 PM
<h1 id="watch-headline-title"><span id="eow-title" class="long-title" dir="ltr" title="Mother****ing Bootleg Fireworks - Subtitled Version">Mother****ing Bootleg Fireworks</span> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcjoGn6FLwI)</h1>

JPizzack
08-04-2011, 02:20 PM
So get this....

My job can't do cash spiffs for referrals, or sales goals, so quarterly we get these gift certificate.com things...which we can redeem for a ton of different gift cards etc.
Some of the vendors are considered premium, so sometimes you have to pay extra.

I wanted an Amazon.com one this time...i just put the order in, electronic gift certificate format only. awesome, I dont care, right?
$10 Handling fee....
HANDLING WHAT?!?!? The computer system automatically generating an email with my gift card number? what the ****!!

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 02:20 PM
Giants DL Coach Rober tNunn said in 15 years of coaching in the NFL, hes never seen a DL like JPP "hes the only one"
</p>


did he care to elaborate? lol

I mean i know he's been described as "a freak of nature" since college....but what is it about him that makes ppl say that? He IS an incredible combination of speed and power....but is that it? is that what they mean?</p>

no clue, took it off a twitter post

Twitter will ruin your life.

football news

free tit shots

and jokes

twitter has enhanced my life

especially cuz it took me off facebook and i dont have to see what they whiney *****es i know say. You jhave no clue moorehead

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 02:23 PM
So get this....

My job can't do cash spiffs for referrals, or sales goals, so quarterly we get these gift certificate.com things...which we can redeem for a ton of different gift cards etc.
Some of the vendors are considered premium, so sometimes you have to pay extra.

I wanted an Amazon.com one this time...i just put the order in, electronic gift certificate format only. awesome, I dont care, right?
$10 Handling fee....
HANDLING WHAT?!?!? The computer system automatically generating an email with my gift card number? what the ****!!

So don't use Amazon? there are other places you can get your stuff from.

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 02:23 PM
How many company's and such has our tax dollars bailed out over the years....But what ever..thing is after two hundred years one would think they woud have all this figured out ..no? Or at least the basic's....greed is the problem....

Greed is not the problem though...that much has been made clear.

the problem is Government...

I agree with you we should NEVER bail out companies...our country has bankruptcy laws for a reason...how do these companies get bailed out?

the Government...that's the problem.
why did the housing market crash....the Government "told" banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them....if the government never got involved "greedy" banks would not have given those loans because they would have lost money.

Greed is in fact a GOOD thing for you and for me Byron....including Corporate Greed....it's how our system works and it's what's made America so successful for so many years....punishing greed...which is what we've been doing for the last 10+ years...that's the problem...the Government intrusion is the problem...Greed is actually the solution.

and I'm only using the word greed because you guys are...there is not such thing really as greed in a capitalistic system....being too greedy as in setting your prices to high for a product or service does not work in this system....because a competing company will do the same thing for less and the "greedy" company will go out of business.
</P>


Amen Daven.</P>

byron
08-04-2011, 02:24 PM
Well I was speaking to Mh's second point they don't pay taxes they pass them on ..we pay in the end one way or the other ....

That's just how business works though, Business needs to make a certain profit margin...if taxes go out their profit goes down the way they keep their profit even is by transferring the tax hike to the customer.

The government increasing the taxes is the root problem...without the taxes being raised the company doesn't have to transfer the cost to the customer...

Business doesn't have a choice but to do that...if they just pay the higher taxes instead of transferring the cost their company ends up losing money and then they go out of business and no longer provide the service/product you wanted from them in the first place...

to make it simple...when Govt raises taxes...Big and Small Business needs to either raise the price you pay on their product service...or...eventually go bankrupt or shut down....

do you LIKE being able to buy stuff? if you do then you should blame government for high prices....if you want to be self sufficient (IE hunt for your food build your own house etc etc) then i guess it doesn't matter.
How many company's and such has our tax dollars bailed out over the years....But what ever..thing is after two hundred years one would think they woud have all this figured out ..no? Or at least the basic's....greed is the problem....</P>


Only the one's who finance Presidential campaigns.</P>


Greed has nothing to do with it.</P>


</P>


so what is it ?.. policies/philosophical differences, why can't they get itright or even close to right? bad politics humm.....I'll stop because you and I both know its adeep and complicated problem that encompasses many things including greed...all of which is way over my head...But the blame played between the twopolitical parties that run this country is beyond getting old...how getting it right that's what weput them there for not their political views</P>


I'm done, carry on boyswhen you get it figured out let them know down there would ya ;)</P>

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 02:27 PM
Well I was speaking to Mh's second point they don't pay taxes they pass them on ..we pay in the end one way or the other ....

That's just how business works though, Business needs to make a certain profit margin...if taxes go out their profit goes down the way they keep their profit even is by transferring the tax hike to the customer.

The government increasing the taxes is the root problem...without the taxes being raised the company doesn't have to transfer the cost to the customer...

Business doesn't have a choice but to do that...if they just pay the higher taxes instead of transferring the cost their company ends up losing money and then they go out of business and no longer provide the service/product you wanted from them in the first place...

to make it simple...when Govt raises taxes...Big and Small Business needs to either raise the price you pay on their product service...or...eventually go bankrupt or shut down....

do you LIKE being able to buy stuff? if you do then you should blame government for high prices....if you want to be self sufficient (IE hunt for your food build your own house etc etc) then i guess it doesn't matter.
How many company's and such has our tax dollars bailed out over the years....But what ever..thing is after two hundred years one would think they woud have all this figured out ..no? Or at least the basic's....greed is the problem....</P>


Only the one's who finance Presidential campaigns.</P>


Greed has nothing to do with it.</P>


</P>


so what is it ?.. policies/philosophical differences, why can't they get itright or even close to right? bad politics humm.....I'll stop because you and I both know its adeep and complicated problem that encompasses many things including greed...all of which is way over my head...But the blame played between the twopolitical parties that run this country is beyond getting old...how getting it right that's what weput them there for not their political views</P>


I'm done, carry on boyswhen you get it figured out let them know down there would ya ;)</P>


</P>


How are you defining greed, Byron?</P>


</P>

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 02:29 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>


</p>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</p>


</p>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</p>


</p>


I love that you hate him.....because I obviously do also.</p>
I love Kanye. He is very musically talented.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 02:29 PM
Giants DL Coach Rober tNunn said in 15 years of coaching in the NFL, hes never seen a DL like JPP "hes the only one"
I can't wait to see this kid's huge thing


ewwww

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 02:31 PM
OMG

Dolphins hae reportedly inquired about Brett Farve

his response "I Can't rule anything out. Thats the only answer i can give"


you have got to be kidding me

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 02:32 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</P>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</P>


One would think he could afford his own.</P>


</P>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</P>


</P>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</P>


</P>


I love that you hate him.....because I obviously do also.</P>



I love Kanye. He is very musically talented.
</P>


Why does he need to steal a girls Arcos tablet then?</P>


Answer me that.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 02:32 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>


</p>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</p>


</p>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</p>


</p>


I love that you hate him.....because I obviously do also.</p>
I love Kanye. He is very musically talented.


he can make beats but his flow is garbage (cuz he has none) and he dont' even write his own ****

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 02:32 PM
so what is it ?.. policies/philosophical differences, why can't they get itright or even close to right?

We HAD it right Byron, 200 years may seem like a lot but in the grand scheme of things it the blink of an Eye....America went from nothing...from the convicts that were sent out of England...to the greatest country in the world in what amounts to the blink of an eye in terms of Human History....

it's crazy when you think about it how successful America has been in such a short time....

the biggest factor in that growth was our Republic and our Capitalistic system, the promise that hard work would be rewarded.

It WAS right....it's only become wrong over the last 30-40 years


bad politics humm.....I'll stop because you and I both know its adeep and complicated problem that encompasses many things including greed...all of which is way over my head...But the blame played between the twopolitical parties that run this country is beyond getting old...how getting it right that's what weput them there for not their political views


I'm done, carry on boyswhen you get it figured out let them know down there would ya ;) </p>

Both parties are at fault....but the problem is actually quite simply Byron, the problem is that the government has become to big, it needs to butt out of our daily lives and let us become the great country we were 30-40 years ago....the people of this country....combined with the greatest economic system ever designed.....we are unstoppable, the only way we can destroy ourselves is from the inside out....
</p>


</p>

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 02:33 PM
lando

fear me at the 12 spot

Biiiiiiiiiiiitch please, you ain't cashin checks like these. But you enjoy Aaron Rodgers and your RB.

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 02:35 PM
OMG

Dolphins hae reportedly inquired about Brett Farve

his response "I Can't rule anything out. Thats the only answer i can give"


you have got to be kidding me


wait the coahc might of said it.. i have no clue

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 02:37 PM
LMAO

there is somebody in my draft called JDizz

is that DePizz remixed?

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 02:38 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>


</p>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</p>


</p>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</p>


</p>


I love that you hate him.....because I obviously do also.</p>



I love Kanye. He is very musically talented.
</p>


Why does he need to steal a girls Arcos tablet then?</p>


Answer me that.</p>
He probably has enough money to buy the company. I am sure he would never do such a thing.

Were people really complaining about the music? They should have had headphones to I guess. You would think with what he has as his disposal he would have some nice headphones that no music would come out.

DavenIII
08-04-2011, 02:38 PM
Timeline (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAdnwql6bMo)

This is a Youtube Video that lays out a timeline on America's spending since the great depression...

It's quite educational and shows that both Bush...AND Obama have been spending like crazy.

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 02:38 PM
LMAO

there is somebody in my draft called JDizz

is that DePizz remixed?
</P>


If he drafts a kicker in the 3rd round,I think you'll have your answer.</P>

MattMeyerBud
08-04-2011, 02:39 PM
lando

fear me at the 12 spot

Biiiiiiiiiiiitch please, you ain't cashin checks like these. But you enjoy Aaron Rodgers and your RB.


rodgers aint droppin that far

byron
08-04-2011, 02:40 PM
How many company's and such has our tax dollars bailed out over the years....But what ever..thing is after two hundred years one would think they woud have all this figured out ..no? Or at least the basic's....greed is the problem....

Greed is not the problem though...that much has been made clear.

the problem is Government...

I agree with you we should NEVER bail out companies...our country has bankruptcy laws for a reason...how do these companies get bailed out?

the Government...that's the problem.
why did the housing market crash....the Government "told" banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them....if the government never got involved "greedy" banks would not have given those loans because they would have lost money.

Greed is in fact a GOOD thing for you and for me Byron....including Corporate Greed....it's how our system works and it's what's made America so successful for so many years....punishing greed...which is what we've been doing for the last 10+ years...that's the problem...the Government intrusion is the problem...Greed is actually the solution.

and I'm only using the word greed because you guys are...there is not such thing really as greed in a capitalistic system....being too greedy as in setting your prices to high for a product or service does not work in this system....because a competing company will do the same thing for less and the "greedy" company will go out of business.
</P>


Amen Daven.</P>I don't know that I brought Gov into with whatI saidat first I would have to go back and look....AndI get your points here and perhaps I'm off base some...The greed in the housing market speaks more to what I'm saying the fact the country/government allowed that to happen is ridiculousandwhy what was the ****ing thinking? and don't tell me there wasn't plenty of greed to go around there cause there was...I get what your saying thoDaven, about greed as it pertains to business in general.....**** the Gov!!!

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 02:40 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</P>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</P>


One would think he could afford his own.</P>


</P>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</P>


</P>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</P>


</P>


I love that you hate him.....because I obviously do also.</P>



I love Kanye. He is very musically talented.
</P>


Why does he need to steal a girls Arcos tablet then?</P>


Answer me that.</P>



He probably has enough money to buy the company. I am sure he would never do such a thing.

Were people really complaining about the music? They should have had headphones to I guess. You would think with what he has as his disposal he would have some nice headphones that no music would come out.
</P>


She said that he sat down next to her, put on these HUGE headphones and blasted them so everyone could hear it.</P>


Exactly when he pinched her tablet is still a mystery.</P>

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 02:40 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</p>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</p>


One would think he could afford his own.</p>


</p>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</p>


</p>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</p>


</p>


I love that you hate him.....because I obviously do also.</p>
I love Kanye. He is very musically talented.


he can make beats but his flow is garbage (cuz he has none) and <font color="#0000FF">he dont' even write his own ****</font>

Where do you come up with this ****?

Maybe you are just hearing him but not listening. He is a ****y pompus prick but most people that rich are. That autotune **** was garbage but when Watch The Throne comes out with him and Hov that **** is gonna be dope. His Graduation album is also one of my favorites of all time.

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 02:43 PM
LMAO

there is somebody in my draft called JDizz

is that DePizz remixed?

LOL

Really not sure but you should make fun of him

Morehead State
08-04-2011, 02:44 PM
KANYA WEST STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TABLET ON A TRAIN FROM PARIS TO LONDON!!!!!</P>


It was suddenly gone when she got off the train a few weeks ago.</P>


One would think he could afford his own.</P>


</P>


Weren't you praising him a few weeks ago for something? lol</P>


</P>


No. I told you that he was being a ****head by blasting his headphones so everyone could hear them in their cabin.</P>


</P>


I love that you hate him.....because I obviously do also.</P>



I love Kanye. He is very musically talented.


he can make beats but his flow is garbage (cuz he has none) and <FONT color=#0000ff>he dont' even write his own ****</FONT>

Where do you come up with this ****?

Maybe you are just hearing him but not listening. He is a ****y pompus prick but most people that rich are. That autotune **** was garbage but when Watch The Throne comes out with him and Hov that **** is gonna be dope. His Graduation album is also one of my favorites of all time.
</P>


Music is in the ear of the beholder.</P>


Of course...rap ain't music.</P>

bigblue4417
08-04-2011, 02:44 PM
lando

fear me at the 12 spot

Biiiiiiiiiiiitch please, you ain't cashin checks like these. But you enjoy Aaron Rodgers and your RB.


rodgers aint droppin that far

And if he does? lol

I'm not stupid bro. You will take a QB with one of your first 2 picks.