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Morehead State
09-12-2011, 12:30 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</P>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</P>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</P>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 12:33 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>

i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 12:34 PM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

if they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 12:37 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</P>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</P>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</P>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</P>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</P>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</P>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 12:40 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</p>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</p>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</p>

not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 12:49 PM
1 oclock and 4 oclock

nobody is on mormon time but u

LOL

my bad...

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 12:50 PM
Thoughts on Greg Jones?

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 12:53 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</P>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</P>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</P>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</P>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</P>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</P>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</P>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</P>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</P>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 12:53 PM
Thoughts on Greg Jones?


looked good agains the run

i heard some knocks about him in pass coverage - have to go look at it

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 12:54 PM
Thoughts on Greg Jones?
</P>


Struggled with the rest of the team.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 12:55 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</p>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</p>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</p>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</p>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</p>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</p>

your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 12:55 PM
Thoughts on Greg Jones?
</P>


yea...he's a rookie...
lol

idk man...our LBs looked good on helping the run yesterday, but gave up big plays over the middle it seemed. Maybe that was just perception to me of who should have been on those plays, but that's how I viewed it.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 12:59 PM
Thoughts on Greg Jones?
</p>


yea...he's a rookie...
lol

idk man...our LBs looked good on helping the run yesterday, but gave up big plays over the middle it seemed. Maybe that was just perception to me of who should have been on those plays, but that's how I viewed it.</p>

yea I gotta see where the breakdowns happened.

I realy was just in disgust seeing the wide open receiver catching the ball that i typically turned my head in disgust

I have to see who was there - or suppose to be there.

Seems like Webster - Ross- Rolle - KP were getting ****ING abused

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 12:59 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</P>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</P>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</P>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</P>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</P>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</P>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</P>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</P>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</P>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</P>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</P>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</P>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</P>

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 01:01 PM
"Hell, yeah, you've got to panic," Ortiz said

<div class="inner-container">
<h5>Rays (81-64)</h5>


3 at Baltimore

4 at Boston

4 at New York (includes 1 make-up)

3 vs. Toronto

3 vs. New York</p>
<h5>Red Sox (85-61)</h5>


2 vs. Toronto

4 vs. Tampa Bay

4 vs. Baltimore

3 at New York

3 at Baltimore</p>
<h5>Yankees (88-57)</h5>
<p class="last">3 at Seattle

3 at Toronto

1 vs. Minnesota (make-up)

4 vs. Tampa Bay (includes 1 make-up)

3 vs. Boston

3 at Tampa Bay</p>
</div>

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 01:07 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</p>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</p>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</p>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</p>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</p>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</p>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</p>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</p>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</p>
Aikman said as a QB you are counting on your lineman to make the block there. The play happens so fast that you have to release the ball immediately and again trust your lineman to do what he is supposed to. It was lucky he tipped it up to himself and caught it. That rarely happens. Eli had a split second to make a decision and did what he was supposed to do. If anything it was Kareems fault for not doing what he was supposed to.

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 01:18 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</p>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</p>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</p>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</p>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</p>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</p>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</p>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</p>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</p>

your timeline is off. I am going home at lunch and i will even go check it out when i get there

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 01:18 PM
Aikman said as a QB you are counting on your lineman to make the block there. The play happens so fast that you have to release the ball immediately and again trust your lineman to do what he is supposed to. It was lucky he tipped it up to himself and caught it. That rarely happens. Eli had a split second to make a decision and did what he was supposed to do. If anything it was Kareems fault for not doing what he was supposed to.
</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>What are you talking about.....it's ****ing easy to pass block from the ground. Eli should have stiffarmed him to the grassand thrown a 90 yard pass to manningham. </FONT></P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 01:21 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</p>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</p>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</p>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</p>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</p>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</p>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</p>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</p>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</p>
Aikman said as a QB you are counting on your lineman to make the block there. The play happens so fast that you have to release the ball immediately and again trust your lineman to do what he is supposed to. It was lucky he tipped it up to himself and caught it. That rarely happens. Eli had a split second to make a decision and did what he was supposed to do. If anything it was Kareems fault for not doing what he was supposed to.
\

hes absolutely right

its a timed ball. You have to hit Nicks before the CB can react and make the ground up.

McKenzie's job is to take a step and try to stretch thdefender so that he could open the passing lane by hoping the defender over persues to the outside so all he'll have to do is give a nudge or get a better angle to cut if the guy does what Kerrigan did

lttaylor56
09-12-2011, 01:24 PM
ok found matchup---

What's up with projected and actual. Yesterday I thought my projected was my actual and today it's not? ....and I'm in finance-scary.
</p>


Well that shows your statring lineup and the projected points (projected doesn't mean much, its Yahoo's opinion). But you can only adjust your lineup on your "My Team"screen. thats shows all the players (starters and bench) on your team. The only change you can make now is Hagen for Branch since neither player has started yet.</p>


OK-Hagan &amp; Branch--Because my limit for the week is 3 TOTAL wr's correct? So--I used up my 2 TOTAL rb's with Charles and Torain(cause I'm an idiot) and I cannot add anymore rb's for week#1, Correct?
</p>


that's right. once that person's game happens, that slot is locked till next week.
LT, I thought we went over this last week!! Always play your best matchup, and hope for the best! There's no player swapping.</p>


We did--You tried to tell me...I was thinking something else.
</p>


Don't fret it LT. We will check with you over the week to make sure you have the starters you want for week 2.</p>[Y]

lttaylor56
09-12-2011, 01:28 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>

i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
All of Cruz's hype was based on that Pre-season game against the Jet's. He was catching bombs against defensive players who probably never made it to the nfl. Then the injury-and that get's us to present.

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 01:51 PM
"Hell, yeah, you've got to panic," Ortiz said


<DIV class=inner-container>
<H5>Rays (81-64)</H5>


3 at Baltimore
4 at Boston
4 at New York (includes 1 make-up)
3 vs. Toronto
3 vs. New York</P>
<H5>Red Sox (85-61)</H5>


2 vs. Toronto
4 vs. Tampa Bay
4 vs. Baltimore
3 at New York
3 at Baltimore</P>
<H5>Yankees (88-57)</H5>
<P class=last>3 at Seattle
3 at Toronto
1 vs. Minnesota (make-up)
4 vs. Tampa Bay (includes 1 make-up)
3 vs. Boston
3 at Tampa Bay</P></DIV>



</P>


Can only hope we can right the ship before its too late.</P>


The Red Sox and Giants must have the same training philosophy.</P>


Its not like the Yanks are lighting it up either. they just came off a 4 game losing streak. But right now, the Sox are playing awful.</P>

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 01:55 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</P>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</P>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</P>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</P>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</P>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</P>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</P>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</P>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</P>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</P>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</P>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</P>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</P>



Aikman said as a QB you are counting on your lineman to make the block there. The play happens so fast that you have to release the ball immediately and again trust your lineman to do what he is supposed to. It was lucky he tipped it up to himself and caught it. That rarely happens. Eli had a split second to make a decision and did what he was supposed to do. If anything it was Kareems fault for not doing what he was supposed to.
</P>


Lando, the DE was standing in the passing lane at the time of the throw. The OT was on the ground. Do you want you QB throwing a ball with the hope that in the next second, the OT will make a play to chop the End? I don't. And YA tells me that there were three other routes on that play and 2 were open.</P>


I want my QB to be more careful.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 02:11 PM
Pappy I just looked at that play 20 times in replay.

First off - Hall was 5 yards off Nicks and was still in his back pedal when Nicks broke back on the screen. HAD the ball got there Nicks would of had room to get by him and there was NOBODY behind him.

Secondly now only was Eli through his throwing motion but there was also pressure coming inside of Kerrigan. Had he held it or hesitated im not sure there result wouldn't of been the same because Eli didn't have time to pull it in while stopping his throwing motion. He probably would of got killed and possibly spit the bit.

I could see where in real time you might of thought Eli made a bad choice, but on the following drive they had an angle which was perfect to show what Eli could see. McKenzie didn't complete the block but from where Eli was it, may of look like he did or at least got enough of him. Kerrigan was hunched over and then exploded up. There was no way for Eli, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Jesus himself see that. You have to also figure that Eli see Kerrigan being bent over a tad and is then looking at Nicks and where Hall is coming up on him so he knows where to put the ball.

Honestly I know i got heated with u today but i feel like u say things JUST to piss me off. If you were, then mission accomplished. But now I stand behind my point 110% that it wasn't on Eli.

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 02:13 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</p>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</p>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</p>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</p>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</p>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</p>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</p>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</p>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</p>



Aikman said as a QB you are counting on your lineman to make the block there. The play happens so fast that you have to release the ball immediately and again trust your lineman to do what he is supposed to. It was lucky he tipped it up to himself and caught it. That rarely happens. Eli had a split second to make a decision and did what he was supposed to do. If anything it was Kareems fault for not doing what he was supposed to.
</p>


Lando, the DE was standing in the passing lane at the time of the throw. The OT was on the ground. Do you want you QB throwing a ball with the hope that in the next second, the OT will make a play to chop the End? I don't. And YA tells me that there were three other routes on that play and 2 were open.</p>


I want my QB to be more careful.</p>

there is ALWAYS a DE there o nthat play though. The block has to be made, it wasn't. That isn't a sit and read unless its evident that the DE isn't blocked and it wasn't. Im sorry Pappy, but your assessment of the play is wrong.

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 02:22 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</P>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</P>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</P>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</P>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</P>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</P>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</P>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</P>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</P>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</P>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</P>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</P>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</P>



Aikman said as a QB you are counting on your lineman to make the block there. The play happens so fast that you have to release the ball immediately and again trust your lineman to do what he is supposed to. It was lucky he tipped it up to himself and caught it. That rarely happens. Eli had a split second to make a decision and did what he was supposed to do. If anything it was Kareems fault for not doing what he was supposed to.
</P>


Lando, the DE was standing in the passing lane at the time of the throw. The OT was on the ground. Do you want you QB throwing a ball with the hope that in the next second, the OT will make a play to chop the End? I don't. And YA tells me that there were three other routes on that play and 2 were open.</P>


I want my QB to be more careful.</P>




there is ALWAYS a DE there o nthat play though. The block has to be made, it wasn't. That isn't a sit and read unless its evident that the DE isn't blocked and it wasn't. Im sorry Pappy, but your assessment of the play is wrong.
</P>


There is no doubt that the tackle has to make that block in order for the play to be made. But it wasn't and it was unlikely to be made at the time Eli decided to throw the ball.</P>


And don't give me that nonsense about Hall. He changed directions as soon as Eli turned to throw the ball. He was on top of Nicks. Now Nicks may have been able to break the tackle, but he was there.</P>


It was a rushed play. Maybe Eli was rattled by the constant pass rush. But it was a poor decision. I'm not saying he was exclusively to blame but he should have either held the ball or throw it away.</P>


Quite hoinestly, I expect our team to practice that play enoughto make Eli make choices when it falls apart like that. If you want to blame the coaches for not having Eli prepared for that missed block, thats fine.</P>


But I don't want my QB making that play. You clearly do. But then you seem to be OK with "the gunslinger" throwing into any kind of coverage.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 02:31 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</p>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</p>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</p>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</p>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</p>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</p>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</p>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</p>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</p>



Aikman said as a QB you are counting on your lineman to make the block there. The play happens so fast that you have to release the ball immediately and again trust your lineman to do what he is supposed to. It was lucky he tipped it up to himself and caught it. That rarely happens. Eli had a split second to make a decision and did what he was supposed to do. If anything it was Kareems fault for not doing what he was supposed to.
</p>


Lando, the DE was standing in the passing lane at the time of the throw. The OT was on the ground. Do you want you QB throwing a ball with the hope that in the next second, the OT will make a play to chop the End? I don't. And YA tells me that there were three other routes on that play and 2 were open.</p>


I want my QB to be more careful.</p>




there is ALWAYS a DE there o nthat play though. The block has to be made, it wasn't. That isn't a sit and read unless its evident that the DE isn't blocked and it wasn't. Im sorry Pappy, but your assessment of the play is wrong.
</p>


There is no doubt that the tackle has to make that block in order for the play to be made. But it wasn't and it was unlikely to be made at the time Eli decided to throw the ball.</p>


And don't give me that nonsense about Hall. He changed directions as soon as Eli turned to throw the ball. He was on top of Nicks. Now Nicks may have been able to break the tackle, but he was there.</p>


It was a rushed play. Maybe Eli was rattled by the constant pass rush. But it was a poor decision. I'm not saying he was exclusively to blame but he should have either held the ball or throw it away.</p>


Quite hoinestly, I expect our team to practice that play enoughto make Eli make choices when it falls apart like that. If you want to blame the coaches for not having Eli prepared for that missed block, thats fine.</p>


But I don't want my QB making that play. You clearly do. But then you seem to be OK with "the gunslinger" throwing into any kind of coverage.</p>

Well your wrong , the play was ran 2 other times that game and it was a great play by Kerrigan and bad play by McKenzie wayyyyyy before it was on eli..

Hall changed directions after Nicks had to steps working back to the ball when he was already giving a 5 yard cushion.

there wasn't a rattle... thats the play that was called and designed. It looked like McKenzie had him, he just didn't. You have to have faith that when ur lineman has position hes going to make the block. You have to be able to look at the WR and the corner behind him.

This is why I call you a troll.

The play didn't fall apart, it was there. There was a block that wasn't completed, it was engaged and the ball was in the process of being thrown in under 2 seconds. You really are being just ignorant about this.

I don't get what u mean? Do I want my QB getting the ball to Nicks who has room and can make a move on a CB and then run for 40 yards? Yea i do.

At the time of the play when Eli has to judge whether McKenzie was going to make the block, it looked like he was.

That had nothing to do with the gunslinger aspect of Eli. But the deeper balls to Ballard, Mario, and Nicks were very gunslingerish

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 02:46 PM
Matt, I admire your dedication to diligently researching game tape to prove your point. lol</P>

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 02:53 PM
Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs) safety Eric Berry (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13252/eric-berry) will miss the rest of the 2011 season after tearing his ACL


Matt Stafford is going to have a field day next week [:)]

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:01 PM
Matt, I admire your dedication to diligently researching game tape to prove your point. lol</p>

if theres one thing i learned: The Tape doesn't lie

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:02 PM
Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs) safety Eric Berry (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13252/eric-berry) will miss the rest of the 2011 season after tearing his ACL


Matt Stafford is going to have a field day next week [:)]


lol its annoying u have him too

but that does excite me

lttaylor56
09-12-2011, 03:11 PM
Putting aside the whole "Eli" argument, this team was unprepared to play the Redskins yesterday. The injuries hurt without a doubt. But our offense is pretty much intact. We were not ready to play and thats on the coaching staff. One thing Matt and I do agree on (unless he goes crazy on this point too) is that TC should have been replaced before this season.</p>


I'm sick of his throwing down his clipboard or gum or whatever else on bad plays and do the proper coaching to prevent them in the first place.</p>


This isn't a smart team. This staff does not address the strenghts of each player and utilize them to the max.</p>


As Byron put it last night. These coaches are "stubborn".In my viewthey need to go. I'm afraid we will have to have a horrible season for them to make the move. This unfortunately may be that season.</p>




i honestly have no issues with our skill position except the fact that I can't stand Cruz. enough with him.

Give Hixon or Thomas a shot. Both of them showed something this offseason - its stupid that they aren't getting real shots in the game.
</p>


These coaches don't adapt. They try to fit the round players into square holes. To many talented players to not make us of them. They have far too traditional attitudes about football and have no imagination.</p>


And I'm sorry but someone.....anyone.....needs to get in Eli's grill.</p>




not after yesterdays game

somebody needs to get in the olines face. IT was disgraceful

its really is amusing that eli played the exact way you wanted him to and yet u still complain
</p>


No he didn't. He made a terrible decision on the pick. The play was broken, and he didn't adjust.</p>


Other than that, I do NOT blame Eli for the loss yesterday. I am only saying that he played as poorly as the rest of the team. We were not going to win that game no matter what Eli did. Eli is not capable of putting a team on his back. We all know that. The list of excuses by Eli Cultists proves that. He needs everybody else to play well in order to be productive. In that context, there wasn't much he could do. Because he simply isn't capable of it.</p>




your lack of football knowledge is showing if u think that was a bad play...

how is a play that the ball has to be released so quick be broken. The block wasn't even thrown yet. It is apparently that you have no clue what ur talking about.
</p>


Are you saying that the block that was never thrown wasn't thrown yet. What the hell does that mean? KMac was already on the grownd when Eli made the decision to throw the ball where he did. The DE was standing in the passing lane and the RT was on the ground.</p>


How is it Eli could have possible thought the laws of physics could be changed for that second in time. The play was busted by the time Eli made the decision and Eli threw it as if it wasn't. Exactly like he did on the Cruz play in preseason.</p>



Aikman said as a QB you are counting on your lineman to make the block there. The play happens so fast that you have to release the ball immediately and again trust your lineman to do what he is supposed to. It was lucky he tipped it up to himself and caught it. That rarely happens. Eli had a split second to make a decision and did what he was supposed to do. If anything it was Kareems fault for not doing what he was supposed to.
</p>


Lando, the DE was standing in the passing lane at the time of the throw. The OT was on the ground. Do you want you QB throwing a ball with the hope that in the next second, the OT will make a play to chop the End? I don't. And YA tells me that there were three other routes on that play and 2 were open.</p>


I want my QB to be more careful.</p>I have no problem with a little more care in Eli's decisions.

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:12 PM
Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs) safety Eric Berry (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13252/eric-berry) will miss the rest of the 2011 season after tearing his ACL


Matt Stafford is going to have a field day next week [:)]


lol its annoying u have him too

but that does excite me
</P>


This is good news for Rivers too.</P>


Stafford might be a top 5 QB this season. Butyou may want to pick up Sean Hill just in case.</P>

lttaylor56
09-12-2011, 03:14 PM
Pappy I just looked at that play 20 times in replay.

First off - Hall was 5 yards off Nicks and was still in his back pedal when Nicks broke back on the screen. HAD the ball got there Nicks would of had room to get by him and there was NOBODY behind him.

Secondly now only was Eli through his throwing motion but there was also pressure coming inside of Kerrigan. Had he held it or hesitated im not sure there result wouldn't of been the same because Eli didn't have time to pull it in while stopping his throwing motion. He probably would of got killed and possibly spit the bit.

I could see where in real time you might of thought Eli made a bad choice, but on the following drive they had an angle which was perfect to show what Eli could see. McKenzie didn't complete the block but from where Eli was it, may of look like he did or at least got enough of him. Kerrigan was hunched over and then exploded up. There was no way for Eli, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Jesus himself see that. You have to also figure that Eli see Kerrigan being bent over a tad and is then looking at Nicks and where Hall is coming up on him so he knows where to put the ball.

Honestly I know i got heated with u today but i feel like u say things JUST to piss me off. If you were, then mission accomplished. But now I stand behind my point 110% that it wasn't on Eli.
That is impressive. Thanks for taking the time. Your a great resource.

lttaylor56
09-12-2011, 03:16 PM
ok found matchup---

What's up with projected and actual. Yesterday I thought my projected was my actual and today it's not? ....and I'm in finance-scary.
</p>


Well that shows your statring lineup and the projected points (projected doesn't mean much, its Yahoo's opinion). But you can only adjust your lineup on your "My Team"screen. thats shows all the players (starters and bench) on your team. The only change you can make now is Hagen for Branch since neither player has started yet.</p>


OK-Hagan &amp; Branch--Because my limit for the week is 3 TOTAL wr's correct? So--I used up my 2 TOTAL rb's with Charles and Torain(cause I'm an idiot) and I cannot add anymore rb's for week#1, Correct?
</p>


that's right. once that person's game happens, that slot is locked till next week.
LT, I thought we went over this last week!! Always play your best matchup, and hope for the best! There's no player swapping.</p>


We did--You tried to tell me...I was thinking something else.
</p>


Don't fret it LT. We will check with you over the week to make sure you have the starters you want for week 2.</p>[Y]

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:18 PM
Pappy I just looked at that play 20 times in replay.

First off - Hall was 5 yards off Nicks and was still in his back pedal when Nicks broke back on the screen. HAD the ball got there Nicks would of had room to get by him and there was NOBODY behind him.

Secondly now only was Eli through his throwing motion but there was also pressure coming inside of Kerrigan. Had he held it or hesitated im not sure there result wouldn't of been the same because Eli didn't have time to pull it in while stopping his throwing motion. He probably would of got killed and possibly spit the bit.

I could see where in real time you might of thought Eli made a bad choice, but on the following drive they had an angle which was perfect to show what Eli could see. McKenzie didn't complete the block but from where Eli was it, may of look like he did or at least got enough of him. Kerrigan was hunched over and then exploded up. There was no way for Eli, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Jesus himself see that. You have to also figure that Eli see Kerrigan being bent over a tad and is then looking at Nicks and where Hall is coming up on him so he knows where to put the ball.

Honestly I know i got heated with u today but i feel like u say things JUST to piss me off. If you were, then mission accomplished. But now I stand behind my point 110% that it wasn't on Eli.
That is impressive. Thanks for taking the time. Your a great resource.
</P>


Would be more impressive he he took these off when he looked at the film.</P>


http://www.selfhelpdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rose-colored-glasses.jpg</P>

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 03:21 PM
<FONT size=5>Welcome to Moreheadland!!!
Where everyone else is wrong, 100% of the time!!!

Enjoy your stay! But don't get too comfortable, because we don't like your kind here.</FONT>

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:24 PM
<FONT size=5>Welcome to Moreheadland!!!
Where everyone else is wrong, 100% of the time!!!

Enjoy your stay! But don't get too comfortable, because we don't like your kind here.</FONT></P>


Its called arguing my point. Sorry if you are offended.</P>

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 03:26 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 03:28 PM
Morehead has gone full Manningbowl on us..

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 03:31 PM
Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs) safety Eric Berry (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13252/eric-berry) will miss the rest of the 2011 season after tearing his ACL


Matt Stafford is going to have a field day next week [:)]


lol its annoying u have him too

but that does excite me
</p>


This is good news for Rivers too.</p>


Stafford might be a top 5 QB this season. Butyou may want to pick up Sean Hill just in case.</p>
That is why I have Matt Ryan

lttaylor56
09-12-2011, 03:38 PM
<font size="5">Welcome to Moreheadland!!!
Where everyone else is wrong, 100% of the time!!!

Enjoy your stay! But don't get too comfortable, because we don't like your kind here.</font>

Sounds[;)] just like home

Could very well be one of your best Pizz.

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:39 PM
Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs) safety Eric Berry (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13252/eric-berry) will miss the rest of the 2011 season after tearing his ACL


Matt Stafford is going to have a field day next week [:)]


lol its annoying u have him too

but that does excite me
</p>


This is good news for Rivers too.</p>


Stafford might be a top 5 QB this season. Butyou may want to pick up Sean Hill just in case.</p>

its true - Hill did a damn fine job last year

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 03:40 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:40 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</P>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</P>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</P>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</P>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</P>

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 03:41 PM
Hakeem Nicks will undergo further evaluation on his injured knee after X-rays came back negative on Sunday evening.

HC Tom Coughlin said at his Monday press conference that Nicks is
dealing with "some type of injury." An ominous sounding statement, but
far from an indication Nicks' injury is serious. He does appear to be a
question mark for Week 2, however, after his knee swelled up on Monday.

This is news to me....

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 03:43 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</p>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</p>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</p>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</p>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</p>
I don't think Eli played well yesterday. He had some nice throws. Had he played well we would have won the game. He was 3/11 at one point....

lawl
09-12-2011, 03:45 PM
if we dont make the playoffs, TC is gone, no matter the circumstances.

90% chance new coaching staff drafts their own young QB early in 2012 draft.

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 03:46 PM
The Chargers have confirmed K Nate Kaeding is done for the season with a torn ACL in his non-kicking leg.

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 03:46 PM
Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo announced Monday that Steven Jackson (quadriceps) is "probably" not going to play in Week 2.

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 03:47 PM
90% chance new coaching staff drafts their own young QB early in 2012 draft.

That's a bold statement.

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:48 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</P>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</P>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</P>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</P>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</P>



I don't think Eli played well yesterday. He had some nice throws. Had he played well we would have won the game. He was 3/11 at one point....
</P>


Be careful Lando.</P>


Stating your opinion here gets you attacked by posterswho stay on the sidelines of a discussionand then accuse you of thinking you're always right.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:50 PM
Pappy I just looked at that play 20 times in replay.

First off - Hall was 5 yards off Nicks and was still in his back pedal when Nicks broke back on the screen. HAD the ball got there Nicks would of had room to get by him and there was NOBODY behind him.

Secondly now only was Eli through his throwing motion but there was also pressure coming inside of Kerrigan. Had he held it or hesitated im not sure there result wouldn't of been the same because Eli didn't have time to pull it in while stopping his throwing motion. He probably would of got killed and possibly spit the bit.

I could see where in real time you might of thought Eli made a bad choice, but on the following drive they had an angle which was perfect to show what Eli could see. McKenzie didn't complete the block but from where Eli was it, may of look like he did or at least got enough of him. Kerrigan was hunched over and then exploded up. There was no way for Eli, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Jesus himself see that. You have to also figure that Eli see Kerrigan being bent over a tad and is then looking at Nicks and where Hall is coming up on him so he knows where to put the ball.

Honestly I know i got heated with u today but i feel like u say things JUST to piss me off. If you were, then mission accomplished. But now I stand behind my point 110% that it wasn't on Eli.
That is impressive. Thanks for taking the time. Your a great resource.


why thank you sir. I do try to be objective no matter what Moorehead says

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:51 PM
<font size="5">Welcome to Moreheadland!!!
Where everyone else is wrong, 100% of the time!!!

Enjoy your stay! But don't get too comfortable, because we don't like your kind here.</font></p>


Its called arguing my point. Sorry if you are offended.</p>

its not a valid point if your facts aren't accurate and you don't live in reality

That would of happened to ANY QB in that situation - they would of made that throw

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:51 PM
Pappy I just looked at that play 20 times in replay.

First off - Hall was 5 yards off Nicks and was still in his back pedal when Nicks broke back on the screen. HAD the ball got there Nicks would of had room to get by him and there was NOBODY behind him.

Secondly now only was Eli through his throwing motion but there was also pressure coming inside of Kerrigan. Had he held it or hesitated im not sure there result wouldn't of been the same because Eli didn't have time to pull it in while stopping his throwing motion. He probably would of got killed and possibly spit the bit.

I could see where in real time you might of thought Eli made a bad choice, but on the following drive they had an angle which was perfect to show what Eli could see. McKenzie didn't complete the block but from where Eli was it, may of look like he did or at least got enough of him. Kerrigan was hunched over and then exploded up. There was no way for Eli, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Jesus himself see that. You have to also figure that Eli see Kerrigan being bent over a tad and is then looking at Nicks and where Hall is coming up on him so he knows where to put the ball.

Honestly I know i got heated with u today but i feel like u say things JUST to piss me off. If you were, then mission accomplished. But now I stand behind my point 110% that it wasn't on Eli.
That is impressive. Thanks for taking the time. Your a great resource.


why thank you sir. I do try to be objective no matter what Moorehead says
</P>


I agree that you think you are.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:51 PM
Morehead has gone full Manningbowl on us..

he really has

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:53 PM
<FONT size=5>Welcome to Moreheadland!!!
Where everyone else is wrong, 100% of the time!!!

Enjoy your stay! But don't get too comfortable, because we don't like your kind here.</FONT></P>


Its called arguing my point. Sorry if you are offended.</P>




its not a valid point if your facts aren't accurate and you don't live in reality

That would of happened to ANY QB in that situation - they would of made that throw
</P>


And yet it always seems to happen to Eli.</P>


Tipped passes, missed blocks, bad OC, WR's running wrong patterns...........</P>


He is one unlucky gunslinger.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:53 PM
Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs) safety Eric Berry (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13252/eric-berry) will miss the rest of the 2011 season after tearing his ACL


Matt Stafford is going to have a field day next week [:)]


lol its annoying u have him too

but that does excite me
</p>


This is good news for Rivers too.</p>


Stafford might be a top 5 QB this season. Butyou may want to pick up Sean Hill just in case.</p>
That is why I have Matt Ryan


I have Cutler and Colt McCoy backing him up

Colt McCoy as a keeper too

lawl
09-12-2011, 03:53 PM
Also, MH, I told you Greg Jones' sideline to sideline pursuit is a liability.

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:54 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:55 PM
Also, MH, I told you Greg Jones' sideline to sideline pursuit is a liability.
</P>


Well I didn'tlike the TD play. I thought though as a rookie playing in his first game it wasn't that bad.</P>


But I didn't like the way he trailed that play. Was that being out of position or lack of speed?</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:56 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</p>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</p>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</p>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</p>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</p>

and ur biggest arguments about it were that ELi threw the pick and didn't make plays...

but the truth of the matter is we've heard u ***** ALLL off season long about how "If its not there, don't throw it". Eli did that yesterday and then he is getting killed in TAGF about comp % and rating.

Then you say he threw an awful INT and it wasn't on him at all.

i'd add Ballard, Joseph, Canty, Jacobs, and even Jones taking into consideration his situation

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:57 PM
Hakeem Nicks will undergo further evaluation on his injured knee after X-rays came back negative on Sunday evening.

HC Tom Coughlin said at his Monday press conference that Nicks is
dealing with "some type of injury." An ominous sounding statement, but
far from an indication Nicks' injury is serious. He does appear to be a
question mark for Week 2, however, after his knee swelled up on Monday.

This is news to me....


word is deep knee bruise on the inside tip

apparently this can be a bad thing

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 03:58 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</P>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</P>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</P>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:58 PM
if we dont make the playoffs, TC is gone, no matter the circumstances.

90% chance new coaching staff drafts their own young QB early in 2012 draft.


i got whatever you want to throw down on that

lawl
09-12-2011, 03:58 PM
Also, MH, I told you Greg Jones' sideline to sideline pursuit is a liability.
</p>


Well I didn'tlike the TD play. I thought though as a rookie playing in his first game it wasn't that bad.</p>


But I didn't like the way he trailed that play. Was that being out of position or lack of speed?</p>

Thats not the only play I'm talking about.

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 03:59 PM
Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo announced Monday that Steven Jackson (quadriceps) is "probably" not going to play in Week 2.

you lucky ******* lol. Although if Fitz throws up another stinker it may not of been worth it lol

lawl
09-12-2011, 03:59 PM
if we dont make the playoffs, TC is gone, no matter the circumstances.

90% chance new coaching staff drafts their own young QB early in 2012 draft.


i got whatever you want to throw down on that


You can't really throw down on a percentage lol

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:00 PM
Pappy I just looked at that play 20 times in replay.

First off - Hall was 5 yards off Nicks and was still in his back pedal when Nicks broke back on the screen. HAD the ball got there Nicks would of had room to get by him and there was NOBODY behind him.

Secondly now only was Eli through his throwing motion but there was also pressure coming inside of Kerrigan. Had he held it or hesitated im not sure there result wouldn't of been the same because Eli didn't have time to pull it in while stopping his throwing motion. He probably would of got killed and possibly spit the bit.

I could see where in real time you might of thought Eli made a bad choice, but on the following drive they had an angle which was perfect to show what Eli could see. McKenzie didn't complete the block but from where Eli was it, may of look like he did or at least got enough of him. Kerrigan was hunched over and then exploded up. There was no way for Eli, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Jesus himself see that. You have to also figure that Eli see Kerrigan being bent over a tad and is then looking at Nicks and where Hall is coming up on him so he knows where to put the ball.

Honestly I know i got heated with u today but i feel like u say things JUST to piss me off. If you were, then mission accomplished. But now I stand behind my point 110% that it wasn't on Eli.
That is impressive. Thanks for taking the time. Your a great resource.


why thank you sir. I do try to be objective no matter what Moorehead says
</p>


I agree that you think you are.</p>

moorehead ur really jaded when it comes to eli, we already know this... u still blame him for interceptions that bounce off of both WRs hands..

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:01 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</P>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</P>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</P>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</P>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</P>




and ur biggest arguments about it were that ELi threw the pick and didn't make plays...

but the truth of the matter is we've heard u ***** ALLL off season long about how "If its not there, don't throw it". Eli did that yesterday and then he is getting killed in TAGF about comp % and rating.

Then you say he threw an awful INT and it wasn't on him at all.

i'd add Ballard, Joseph, Canty, Jacobs, and even Jones taking into consideration his situation
</P>


Sometimes the best "play" is to throw it away.</P>


I believe that a calmer guy in the pocket sees that play and doesn't throw that pass. Eli is calm in life but not in the pocket.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:01 PM
<font size="5">Welcome to Moreheadland!!!
Where everyone else is wrong, 100% of the time!!!

Enjoy your stay! But don't get too comfortable, because we don't like your kind here.</font></p>


Its called arguing my point. Sorry if you are offended.</p>




its not a valid point if your facts aren't accurate and you don't live in reality

That would of happened to ANY QB in that situation - they would of made that throw
</p>


And yet it always seems to happen to Eli.</p>


Tipped passes, missed blocks, bad OC, WR's running wrong patterns...........</p>


He is one unlucky gunslinger.</p>

It does happen to other QBs as well, its just their fans have the common sense to not **** on them for it

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:02 PM
Also, MH, I told you Greg Jones' sideline to sideline pursuit is a liability.
</p>


Well I didn'tlike the TD play. I thought though as a rookie playing in his first game it wasn't that bad.</p>


But I didn't like the way he trailed that play. Was that being out of position or lack of speed?</p>

i didn't really key on him but i am going to when i watch it again tom...

I was pretty happy with his performance considering

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:02 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</p>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</p>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</p>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</p>

actually not really considering Boldin had more points and i didn't even play Romo

but whatever helps u sleep at night

Romo wasn't the play to make last night

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:03 PM
if we dont make the playoffs, TC is gone, no matter the circumstances.

90% chance new coaching staff drafts their own young QB early in 2012 draft.


i got whatever you want to throw down on that


You can't really throw down on a percentage lol



well i'll even give u +120 on whatever amount we agree

because there is ZERO shot we are draftin a QB high in 2012 barring a bad injury

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:04 PM
Pappy I just looked at that play 20 times in replay.

First off - Hall was 5 yards off Nicks and was still in his back pedal when Nicks broke back on the screen. HAD the ball got there Nicks would of had room to get by him and there was NOBODY behind him.

Secondly now only was Eli through his throwing motion but there was also pressure coming inside of Kerrigan. Had he held it or hesitated im not sure there result wouldn't of been the same because Eli didn't have time to pull it in while stopping his throwing motion. He probably would of got killed and possibly spit the bit.

I could see where in real time you might of thought Eli made a bad choice, but on the following drive they had an angle which was perfect to show what Eli could see. McKenzie didn't complete the block but from where Eli was it, may of look like he did or at least got enough of him. Kerrigan was hunched over and then exploded up. There was no way for Eli, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Jesus himself see that. You have to also figure that Eli see Kerrigan being bent over a tad and is then looking at Nicks and where Hall is coming up on him so he knows where to put the ball.

Honestly I know i got heated with u today but i feel like u say things JUST to piss me off. If you were, then mission accomplished. But now I stand behind my point 110% that it wasn't on Eli.
That is impressive. Thanks for taking the time. Your a great resource.


why thank you sir. I do try to be objective no matter what Moorehead says
</P>


I agree that you think you are.</P>




moorehead ur really jaded when it comes to eli, we already know this... u still blame him for interceptions that bounce off of both WRs hands..


</P>


I'm a former Eli supporter who is down on Eli because of his poor decision making.</P>


Most of those throws were not bad decisions. But others were.</P>


But, I will argue until the cows come home that most were poorly thrown balls. But I'm not really bothered by poorly thrown balls. They happen. Its bad decisions that bug the living hell out of me.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:04 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</p>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</p>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</p>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</p>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</p>




and ur biggest arguments about it were that ELi threw the pick and didn't make plays...

but the truth of the matter is we've heard u ***** ALLL off season long about how "If its not there, don't throw it". Eli did that yesterday and then he is getting killed in TAGF about comp % and rating.

Then you say he threw an awful INT and it wasn't on him at all.

i'd add Ballard, Joseph, Canty, Jacobs, and even Jones taking into consideration his situation
</p>


Sometimes the best "play" is to throw it away.</p>


I believe that a calmer guy in the pocket sees that play and doesn't throw that pass. Eli is calm in life but not in the pocket.</p>

there is no throwaway on a timed designed route

again i hope u get a DVR so u can reference these plays that you are absolutely wrong wtih

lawl
09-12-2011, 04:06 PM
if we dont make the playoffs, TC is gone, no matter the circumstances.

90% chance new coaching staff drafts their own young QB early in 2012 draft.


i got whatever you want to throw down on that


You can't really throw down on a percentage lol



well i'll even give u +120 on whatever amount we agree

because there is ZERO shot we are draftin a QB high in 2012 barring a bad injury

New coaching staff, we take one in the first 3 rounds, almost no doubt.

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 04:06 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

<---- this guy
</P>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</P>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals.* Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</P>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</P>lol.. ahh, stay outta the FF kitchen MMB you cant take the heat

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:07 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</P>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</P>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</P>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</P>




actually not really considering Boldin had more points and i didn't even play Romo

but whatever helps u sleep at night

Romo wasn't the play to make last night
</P>


He was. Freeman is a back up. Your were quilty of overthinking there. Romo had a bad game and still had 25 points.</P>


Rivers is the same way. Even a bad game for him is better than a backups average game. Gotta ride the horses.</P>

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:10 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</P>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</P>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</P>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</P>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</P>




and ur biggest arguments about it were that ELi threw the pick and didn't make plays...

but the truth of the matter is we've heard u ***** ALLL off season long about how "If its not there, don't throw it". Eli did that yesterday and then he is getting killed in TAGF about comp % and rating.

Then you say he threw an awful INT and it wasn't on him at all.

i'd add Ballard, Joseph, Canty, Jacobs, and even Jones taking into consideration his situation
</P>


Sometimes the best "play" is to throw it away.</P>


I believe that a calmer guy in the pocket sees that play and doesn't throw that pass. Eli is calm in life but not in the pocket.</P>




there is no throwaway on a timed designed route

again i hope u get a DVR so u can reference these plays that you are absolutely wrong wtih
</P>


Timing routes still depend on defensive conditions. You see all the time a QB turn quickly to throw a quick pass and pull it back if its covered. If they don't they don't stay in the league.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:14 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</p>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</p>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</p>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</p>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</p>




and ur biggest arguments about it were that ELi threw the pick and didn't make plays...

but the truth of the matter is we've heard u ***** ALLL off season long about how "If its not there, don't throw it". Eli did that yesterday and then he is getting killed in TAGF about comp % and rating.

Then you say he threw an awful INT and it wasn't on him at all.

i'd add Ballard, Joseph, Canty, Jacobs, and even Jones taking into consideration his situation
</p>


Sometimes the best "play" is to throw it away.</p>


I believe that a calmer guy in the pocket sees that play and doesn't throw that pass. Eli is calm in life but not in the pocket.</p>




there is no throwaway on a timed designed route

again i hope u get a DVR so u can reference these plays that you are absolutely wrong wtih
</p>


Timing routes still depend on defensive conditions. You see all the time a QB turn quickly to throw a quick pass and pull it back if its covered. If they don't they don't stay in the league.</p>

and if u were able togo back and see the play u'd realize that at the time when Eli has to make the decision it looks like McKenzie is going to get the block

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:18 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</p>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</p>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</p>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</p>




actually not really considering Boldin had more points and i didn't even play Romo

but whatever helps u sleep at night

Romo wasn't the play to make last night
</p>


He was. Freeman is a back up. Your were quilty of overthinking there. Romo had a bad game and still had 25 points.</p>


Rivers is the same way. Even a bad game for him is better than a backups average game. Gotta ride the horses.</p>

Fantasy wise i dont think Romo had a bad game AT ALL.. I was pegging him on 280, 2 TDs and 2 TOs. He had 3 TOs but 350 yards

No way u could put him on that. figured Freeman would of at least had 2 TDs


I wasn't that off. It was just cuz Romo was facing Revis island and the Jets

but again i repeat from befor eand nobody answered, i guess because it is scary. But Dez Bryant is ****ing nasty

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:18 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</P>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</P>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</P>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</P>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</P>




and ur biggest arguments about it were that ELi threw the pick and didn't make plays...

but the truth of the matter is we've heard u ***** ALLL off season long about how "If its not there, don't throw it". Eli did that yesterday and then he is getting killed in TAGF about comp % and rating.

Then you say he threw an awful INT and it wasn't on him at all.

i'd add Ballard, Joseph, Canty, Jacobs, and even Jones taking into consideration his situation
</P>


Sometimes the best "play" is to throw it away.</P>


I believe that a calmer guy in the pocket sees that play and doesn't throw that pass. Eli is calm in life but not in the pocket.</P>




there is no throwaway on a timed designed route

again i hope u get a DVR so u can reference these plays that you are absolutely wrong wtih
</P>


Timing routes still depend on defensive conditions. You see all the time a QB turn quickly to throw a quick pass and pull it back if its covered. If they don't they don't stay in the league.</P>




and if u were able togo back and see the play u'd realize that at the time when Eli has to make the decision it looks like McKenzie is going to get the block


</P>


He was laying on the ground. And Kerrigan was standing in the passing lane.</P>

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 04:18 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</p>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</p>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</p>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</p>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</p>



I don't think Eli played well yesterday. He had some nice throws. Had he played well we would have won the game. He was 3/11 at one point....
</p>


Be careful Lando.</p>


Stating your opinion here gets you attacked by posterswho stay on the sidelines of a discussionand then accuse you of thinking you're always right.</p>
The throw to Nicks was a thing of beauty. Ballard toss was great to. Otherwise nothing too memorable. The TD run was awesome! He got outplayed by Rex Grossman. Anytime that happens I can't say he played well.

Sometimes you are a bit harsh on lil Eli, but you mean well...He can't do it alone

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:20 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</P>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</P>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</P>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</P>




actually not really considering Boldin had more points and i didn't even play Romo

but whatever helps u sleep at night

Romo wasn't the play to make last night
</P>


He was. Freeman is a back up. Your were quilty of overthinking there. Romo had a bad game and still had 25 points.</P>


Rivers is the same way. Even a bad game for him is better than a backups average game. Gotta ride the horses.</P>




Fantasy wise i dont think Romo had a bad game AT ALL.. I was pegging him on 280, 2 TDs and 2 TOs. He had 3 TOs but 350 yards

No way u could put him on that. figured Freeman would of at least had 2 TDs


I wasn't that off. It was just cuz Romo was facing Revis island and the Jets

but again i repeat from befor eand nobody answered, i guess because it is scary. But Dez Bryant is ****ing nasty


</P>


thats exactly my point. a bad game for Romo is still a good FF game. You screwed the pooch on that call. </P>


And Dez Bryant is one of the main reasons that I said last week that Romo was a top 5 FF QB.</P>

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:21 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</P>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</P>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</P>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</P>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</P>



I don't think Eli played well yesterday. He had some nice throws. Had he played well we would have won the game. He was 3/11 at one point....
</P>


Be careful Lando.</P>


Stating your opinion here gets you attacked by posterswho stay on the sidelines of a discussionand then accuse you of thinking you're always right.</P>



The throw to Nicks was a thing of beauty. Ballard toss was great to. Otherwise nothing too memorable. The TD run was awesome! He got outplayed by Rex Grossman. Anytime that happens I can't say he played well.

Sometimes you are a bit harsh on lil Eli, but you mean well...He can't do it alone
</P>


I have to make up for the fact that the coaching staff gives him too many passes. Maybe he'll read Good Ol Moreheads posts and play better.</P>

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 04:29 PM
Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo announced Monday that Steven Jackson (quadriceps) is "probably" not going to play in Week 2.

you lucky ******* lol. Although if Fitz throws up another stinker it may not of been worth it lol

I don't even care about that....I don't wish injury on anyone's team or fantasy team for that matter. I was posting it for the G Men silly willy.

That is beneficial for me however. That will probably be his worst game. lol

How about my boy Beanie? He looked good. It will be a big test against Washington this week?

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 04:30 PM
Who wins...

Raiders or Broncos?

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:34 PM
Who wins...

Raiders or Broncos?
</P>


Since I believe that Denver may be the sleeper team of the NFL, I say Denver.</P>


Who has more FF points Lando?....McGahee or Knowshon.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:34 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</p>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</p>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</p>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</p>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</p>




and ur biggest arguments about it were that ELi threw the pick and didn't make plays...

but the truth of the matter is we've heard u ***** ALLL off season long about how "If its not there, don't throw it". Eli did that yesterday and then he is getting killed in TAGF about comp % and rating.

Then you say he threw an awful INT and it wasn't on him at all.

i'd add Ballard, Joseph, Canty, Jacobs, and even Jones taking into consideration his situation
</p>


Sometimes the best "play" is to throw it away.</p>


I believe that a calmer guy in the pocket sees that play and doesn't throw that pass. Eli is calm in life but not in the pocket.</p>




there is no throwaway on a timed designed route

again i hope u get a DVR so u can reference these plays that you are absolutely wrong wtih
</p>


Timing routes still depend on defensive conditions. You see all the time a QB turn quickly to throw a quick pass and pull it back if its covered. If they don't they don't stay in the league.</p>




and if u were able togo back and see the play u'd realize that at the time when Eli has to make the decision it looks like McKenzie is going to get the block


</p>


He was laying on the ground. And Kerrigan was standing in the passing lane.</p>

Moorehead i just rewatched the play 20 times - agian ur misinformed and u really didn't see the play that well. You have to have trust that ur lineman is going to complete the block

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:35 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</p>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</p>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</p>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</p>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</p>




and ur biggest arguments about it were that ELi threw the pick and didn't make plays...

but the truth of the matter is we've heard u ***** ALLL off season long about how "If its not there, don't throw it". Eli did that yesterday and then he is getting killed in TAGF about comp % and rating.

Then you say he threw an awful INT and it wasn't on him at all.

i'd add Ballard, Joseph, Canty, Jacobs, and even Jones taking into consideration his situation
</p>


Sometimes the best "play" is to throw it away.</p>


I believe that a calmer guy in the pocket sees that play and doesn't throw that pass. Eli is calm in life but not in the pocket.</p>




there is no throwaway on a timed designed route

again i hope u get a DVR so u can reference these plays that you are absolutely wrong wtih
</p>


Timing routes still depend on defensive conditions. You see all the time a QB turn quickly to throw a quick pass and pull it back if its covered. If they don't they don't stay in the league.</p>




and if u were able togo back and see the play u'd realize that at the time when Eli has to make the decision it looks like McKenzie is going to get the block


</p>


He was laying on the ground. And Kerrigan was standing in the passing lane.</p>

Moorehead i just rewatched the play 20 times - agian ur misinformed and u really didn't see the play that well. You have to have trust that ur lineman is going to complete the block

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:36 PM
lol, I'm not offended. Granted, I don't agree with you on this really, but I don't see the point in arguing about it.
Matt is the one you are bothering today.</p>


This entire argument comes from Matts point that Eli played well yesterday. I never claimed that the rest of the team played well and Eli sucked. i said that Eli played poorly along with everybody else.</p>


He looked lost. He looked rushed.</p>


I think Nicks and JPP (and possibly BJ) are the only exceptions.</p>


And yes, I argue it because I think I'm right. What kind of moron think he's wrong and argues the point anyway?</p>



I don't think Eli played well yesterday. He had some nice throws. Had he played well we would have won the game. He was 3/11 at one point....
</p>


Be careful Lando.</p>


Stating your opinion here gets you attacked by posterswho stay on the sidelines of a discussionand then accuse you of thinking you're always right.</p>
The throw to Nicks was a thing of beauty. Ballard toss was great to. Otherwise nothing too memorable. The TD run was awesome! He got outplayed by Rex Grossman. Anytime that happens I can't say he played well.

Sometimes you are a bit harsh on lil Eli, but you mean well...He can't do it alone


that was a nice ball to Manningham as well and the ball Cruz had dropped.

Got the ball to Bradshaw he dropped, plus alot of those rocket screens

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:37 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</p>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</p>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</p>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</p>




actually not really considering Boldin had more points and i didn't even play Romo

but whatever helps u sleep at night

Romo wasn't the play to make last night
</p>


He was. Freeman is a back up. Your were quilty of overthinking there. Romo had a bad game and still had 25 points.</p>


Rivers is the same way. Even a bad game for him is better than a backups average game. Gotta ride the horses.</p>




Fantasy wise i dont think Romo had a bad game AT ALL.. I was pegging him on 280, 2 TDs and 2 TOs. He had 3 TOs but 350 yards

No way u could put him on that. figured Freeman would of at least had 2 TDs


I wasn't that off. It was just cuz Romo was facing Revis island and the Jets

but again i repeat from befor eand nobody answered, i guess because it is scary. But Dez Bryant is ****ing nasty


</p>


thats exactly my point. a bad game for Romo is still a good FF game. You screwed the pooch on that call. </p>


And Dez Bryant is one of the main reasons that I said last week that Romo was a top 5 FF QB.</p>

again, 350 and 2 isn't a bad fantasy game.

He may of had a bad game as QB of the Cowboys, but not a bad fantasy game

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 04:37 PM
Speaking of Grossman....yesterday my buddy was over watching the game, he's a skins fan, but we have a mutual understanding and don't really flame each other too bad, or each others' team...
anyway....he was telling me later on that there was a clip from an 06 game when Rex was on the Bears, playing agaisnt the Pats, and he is seen saying "**** it...I'm thrwoing downfield..." and it became some sort of internet sensation, or "meme" if you will...

Some websites started posting things like this, and I literally lost my **** while he was reading it. I couldnt breathe for like 10 ****ing mins after </P>


http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2006/11/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield.html</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:38 PM
Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo announced Monday that Steven Jackson (quadriceps) is "probably" not going to play in Week 2.

you lucky ******* lol. Although if Fitz throws up another stinker it may not of been worth it lol

I don't even care about that....I don't wish injury on anyone's team or fantasy team for that matter. I was posting it for the G Men silly willy.

That is beneficial for me however. That will probably be his worst game. lol

How about my boy Beanie? He looked good. It will be a big test against Washington this week?


he def did better than i thought but im not sold

Beason was out of that game and they really aren't that good of a defense to begin with

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:39 PM
Who wins...

Raiders or Broncos?


Honestly, no clue

Its hard to imagine Oakland being any good with that secondary the way it is

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:40 PM
Speaking of Grossman....yesterday my buddy was over watching the game, he's a skins fan, but we have a mutual understanding and don't really flame each other too bad, or each others' team...
anyway....he was telling me later on that there was a clip from an 06 game when Rex was on the Bears, playing agaisnt the Pats, and he is seen saying "**** it...I'm thrwoing downfield..." and it became some sort of internet sensation, or "meme" if you will...

Some websites started posting things like this, and I literally lost my **** while he was reading it. I couldnt breathe for like 10 ****ing mins after </p>


http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2006/11/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield.html</p>

i have no clue what th ehell u are talking about, but i am interested in the article lol

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:41 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</P>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</P>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</P>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</P>




actually not really considering Boldin had more points and i didn't even play Romo

but whatever helps u sleep at night

Romo wasn't the play to make last night
</P>


He was. Freeman is a back up. Your were quilty of overthinking there. Romo had a bad game and still had 25 points.</P>


Rivers is the same way. Even a bad game for him is better than a backups average game. Gotta ride the horses.</P>




Fantasy wise i dont think Romo had a bad game AT ALL.. I was pegging him on 280, 2 TDs and 2 TOs. He had 3 TOs but 350 yards

No way u could put him on that. figured Freeman would of at least had 2 TDs


I wasn't that off. It was just cuz Romo was facing Revis island and the Jets

but again i repeat from befor eand nobody answered, i guess because it is scary. But Dez Bryant is ****ing nasty


</P>


thats exactly my point.<FONT size=6> a bad game for Romo is still a good FF game.</FONT> You screwed the pooch on that call. </P>


And Dez Bryant is one of the main reasons that I said last week that Romo was a top 5 FF QB.</P>




again, 350 and 2 isn't a bad fantasy game.

He may of had a bad game as QB of the Cowboys, but not a bad fantasy game


</P>


Again...</P>


Thats exactly what I said.</P>


EXACTLY!!!!</P>


<FONT size=5>READ MATT......................READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</FONT></P>

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:41 PM
I知 not just a gunslinger. I知 a cumslinger.


LMAO i've read this before

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:42 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</p>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</p>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</p>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</p>




actually not really considering Boldin had more points and i didn't even play Romo

but whatever helps u sleep at night

Romo wasn't the play to make last night
</p>


He was. Freeman is a back up. Your were quilty of overthinking there. Romo had a bad game and still had 25 points.</p>


Rivers is the same way. Even a bad game for him is better than a backups average game. Gotta ride the horses.</p>




Fantasy wise i dont think Romo had a bad game AT ALL.. I was pegging him on 280, 2 TDs and 2 TOs. He had 3 TOs but 350 yards

No way u could put him on that. figured Freeman would of at least had 2 TDs


I wasn't that off. It was just cuz Romo was facing Revis island and the Jets

but again i repeat from befor eand nobody answered, i guess because it is scary. But Dez Bryant is ****ing nasty


</p>


thats exactly my point.<font size="6"> a bad game for Romo is still a good FF game.</font> You screwed the pooch on that call. </p>


And Dez Bryant is one of the main reasons that I said last week that Romo was a top 5 FF QB.</p>




again, 350 and 2 isn't a bad fantasy game.

He may of had a bad game as QB of the Cowboys, but not a bad fantasy game


</p>


Again...</p>


Thats exactly what I said.</p>


EXACTLY!!!!</p>


<font size="5">READ MATT......................READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</font></p>

i still read what u said but i still didn't think Romo was throwing for 350 against Revis and Cromartie

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:43 PM
I知 not just a gunslinger. I知 a cumlicker.


LMAO i've read this before
</P>


Oh My!!</P>

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 04:44 PM
Speaking of Grossman....yesterday my buddy was over watching the game, he's a skins fan, but we have a mutual understanding and don't really flame each other too bad, or each others' team...
anyway....he was telling me later on that there was a clip from an 06 game when Rex was on the Bears, playing agaisnt the Pats, and he is seen saying "**** it...I'm thrwoing downfield..." and it became some sort of internet sensation, or "meme" if you will...

Some websites started posting things like this, and I literally lost my **** while he was reading it. I couldnt breathe for like 10 ****ing mins after </P>


http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2006/11/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield.html</P>




i have no clue what th ehell u are talking about, but i am interested in the article lol
</P>


Dude its funny as ****. it's not an article. it's just satire made up by someone who's talking as Rex....</P>

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:45 PM
so who were the big winners on FF this week??

&lt;---- this guy
</P>


Well despite Matt's poor decisions on setting his roster, Scrappy bailed him out with that dumb trade.</P>


But Morehead is nipping at his heals. Matt is not used to being at the top so I expect more horrific roster management from him.</P>


He's so used to looking up at everybody.</P>




actually not really considering Boldin had more points and i didn't even play Romo

but whatever helps u sleep at night

Romo wasn't the play to make last night
</P>


He was. Freeman is a back up. Your were quilty of overthinking there. Romo had a bad game and still had 25 points.</P>


Rivers is the same way. Even a bad game for him is better than a backups average game. Gotta ride the horses.</P>




Fantasy wise i dont think Romo had a bad game AT ALL.. I was pegging him on 280, 2 TDs and 2 TOs. He had 3 TOs but 350 yards

No way u could put him on that. figured Freeman would of at least had 2 TDs


I wasn't that off. It was just cuz Romo was facing Revis island and the Jets

but again i repeat from befor eand nobody answered, i guess because it is scary. But Dez Bryant is ****ing nasty


</P>


thats exactly my point.<FONT size=6> a bad game for Romo is still a good FF game.</FONT> You screwed the pooch on that call. </P>


And Dez Bryant is one of the main reasons that I said last week that Romo was a top 5 FF QB.</P>




again, 350 and 2 isn't a bad fantasy game.

He may of had a bad game as QB of the Cowboys, but not a bad fantasy game


</P>


Again...</P>


Thats exactly what I said.</P>


EXACTLY!!!!</P>


<FONT size=5>READ MATT......................READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</FONT></P>




i still read what u said but i still didn't think Romo was throwing for 350 against Revis and Cromartie


</P>


Cromartie is a playmaker but a lousy cover guy.</P>

Morehead State
09-12-2011, 04:47 PM
And speaking of that, why aren't we bringing in Will Allen. Questionable ball skills but a nice cover guy. Perfect for our system.

MattMeyerBud
09-12-2011, 04:58 PM
And speaking of that, why aren't we bringing in Will Allen. Questionable ball skills but a nice cover guy. Perfect for our system.

because hes 33 and hasn't played football in a year n half

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 05:04 PM
I知 not just a gunslinger. I知 a cumlicker.


LMAO i've read this before
</P>


Oh My!!</P>nice edit MH

edit: ohh just read the original post! Oh MY indeed

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 05:08 PM
can you just stop the arguing and get down to what is really bugging your asses?!?

the BlueJays scare you.. just admit it.

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 05:14 PM
can you just stop the arguing and get down to what is really bugging your asses?!? the BlueJays scare you.. just admit it.</P>


oh yea! i forgot they still had a team up there!!</P>

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 05:22 PM
Who wins...

Raiders or Broncos?
</p>


Since I believe that Denver may be the sleeper team of the NFL, I say Denver.</p>


Who has more FF points Lando?....McGahee or Knowshon.</p>
Knowshon and Oakland wins.

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 05:23 PM
can you just stop the arguing and get down to what is really bugging your asses?!? the BlueJays scare you.. just admit it.</P>


oh yea! i forgot they still had a team up there!!</P>once we 2 game sweep your second favourite team.. than we take it to the Yanks.. 15 games back be afraid lol

need to get within 10 or i lose a bet to NY06 :(

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 05:29 PM
can you just stop the arguing and get down to what is really bugging your asses?!? the BlueJays scare you.. just admit it.</P>


oh yea! i forgot they still had a team up there!!</P>


once we 2 game sweep your second favourite team.. than we take it to the Yanks.. 15 games back be afraid lol need to get within 10 or i lose a bet to NY06 :(</P>


hehe....good luck to ya...although I'd hate to see ny06 have to take canadian money for anything....</P>

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 05:32 PM
can you just stop the arguing and get down to what is really bugging your asses?!? the BlueJays scare you.. just admit it.</P>


oh yea! i forgot they still had a team up there!!</P>


once we 2 game sweep your second favourite team.. than we take it to the Yanks.. 15 games back be afraid lol need to get within 10 or i lose a bet to NY06 :(</P>


hehe....good luck to ya...although I'd hate to see ny06 have to take Canadian money for anything....</P>fyi jackass :) its for sig control.. he's going to unclassy Bandys profile with some raw raw America crap lol

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 05:34 PM
Who wins...

Raiders or Broncos?
</p>


Since I believe that Denver may be the sleeper team of the NFL, I say Denver.</p>


Who has more FF points Lando?....McGahee or Knowshon.</p>
Knowshon and Oakland wins.
homo

JPizzack
09-12-2011, 05:44 PM
can you just stop the arguing and get down to what is really bugging your asses?!? the BlueJays scare you.. just admit it.</P>


oh yea! i forgot they still had a team up there!!</P>


once we 2 game sweep your second favourite team.. than we take it to the Yanks.. 15 games back be afraid lol need to get within 10 or i lose a bet to NY06 :(</P>


hehe....good luck to ya...although I'd hate to see ny06 have to take Canadian money for anything....</P>


fyi jackass :) its for sig control.. he's going to unclassy Bandys profile with some raw raw America crap lol</P>


hahaha cant wait to see it.</P>

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 05:52 PM
homo
Tony

bigblue4417
09-12-2011, 06:05 PM
<div class="report">


Giants RE Osi Umenyiora has resumed running on his surgically repaired right knee.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
It's a good sign for Osi, but we still wouldn't bet
on him playing in a game for another week or two. Jason Pierre-Paul
started the opener against the Redskins and racked up six tackles (five
solo), two sacks, and a forced fumble. Umenyiora can still help in a
rotation at the very least, but the Giants will have a difficult time
justifying a reduction in JPP's snaps.
</div>

dezzzR
09-12-2011, 06:06 PM
And speaking of that, why aren't we bringing in Will Allen. Questionable ball skills but a nice cover guy. Perfect for our system.thats a GREAT question.

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 06:17 PM
homo
Tony
lol

bandwgn86
09-12-2011, 06:23 PM
<div class="report">


Giants RE Osi Umenyiora has resumed running on his surgically repaired right knee.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
It's a good sign for Osi, but we still wouldn't bet
on him playing in a game for another week or two. Jason Pierre-Paul
started the opener against the Redskins and racked up six tackles (five
solo), two sacks, and a forced fumble. Umenyiora can still help in a
rotation at the very least, but the Giants will have a difficult time
justifying a reduction in JPP's snaps.
</div>i'm normally a "can't lose your job due to an injury" kinda guy but i'd make an exception in this case... JPP>Osi

lawl
09-12-2011, 07:10 PM
Morehead or someone else, please handle my business in the "Eli&gt; gilbride" thread please.

Talking to nohuddle10 makes me want to ****ing throw up.

sharick88
09-12-2011, 07:39 PM
Just when that trade for Steven Jackson was looking like it was going to pay off immensely, he got hurt after two carries : (. </P>

byron
09-12-2011, 08:09 PM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>

sharick88
09-13-2011, 12:00 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this team*like I've done forever...</P>
KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 07:59 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>

bandwgn86
09-13-2011, 08:26 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this team*like I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>vote for Fisher in 2012

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 08:32 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>


vote for Fisher in 2012</P>


I'm not a fan....</P>


I rather have Gruden despite me finding him annoying. Is he looking for work? lol
We should actually be slightly more concerned about our coordinators perhaps.</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 08:35 AM
It was abundantly clear to me last night that Eli is not in the same Universe of QB's as Tom Brady. I know Eli stated a few weeks ago that him and Tom were in the same class. In his dreams.

Tom's fundamentals were as crisp and precise as they could be for a pocket QB. I am a diehard NYG fan, plus a fan of the league. That was a treat to watch Brady last night.

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 08:43 AM
It was abundantly clear to me last night that Eli is not in the same Universe of QB's as Tom Brady. I know Eli stated a few weeks ago that him and Tom were in the same class. In his dreams.

Tom's fundamentals were as crisp and precise as they could be for a pocket QB. I am a diehard NYG fan, plus a fan of the league. That was a treat to watch Brady last night.
</P>


Dude, Brady was ****ing ridiculous last night. I love his demeanor, and i love the Pats game plan:
Do I know anyone in this 2ndary? no? Throw for 500+ yards! readyyyy go! Totally ****ing abusive, and i loved watching it.
Despite my hatred for boston.......to the dismay of Morehead, I dont hate the pats, very neutral towards them. The only time I didn't like themwas SB42....The Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object!!
plus, any team that plays against the jets is hard not to root for =P (dallas the exception this week obviously. **** dallas)</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 08:55 AM
It was abundantly clear to me last night that Eli is not in the same Universe of QB's as Tom Brady. I know Eli stated a few weeks ago that him and Tom were in the same class. In his dreams.

Tom's fundamentals were as crisp and precise as they could be for a pocket QB. I am a diehard NYG fan, plus a fan of the league. That was a treat to watch Brady last night.
</p>


Dude, Brady was ****ing ridiculous last night. I love his demeanor, and i love the Pats game plan:
Do I know anyone in this 2ndary? no? Throw for 500+ yards! readyyyy go! Totally ****ing abusive, and i loved watching it.
Despite my hatred for boston.......to the dismay of Morehead, I dont hate the pats, very neutral towards them. The only time I didn't like themwas SB42....The Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object!!
plus, any team that plays against the jets is hard not to root for =P (dallas the exception this week obviously. **** dallas)</p>I Concur entirely. Unreal last night was Brady. Pat's were my mortal enemy the year of sb 42 and whenever we play them. When we are not playing them, how can you not enjoy watching that teams talent? What was Brady's records last night--he was top 5 or 6 for overall nfl ydge and also a Mnf record , I believe.

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 08:55 AM
It was abundantly clear to me last night that Eli is not in the same Universe of QB's as Tom Brady. I know Eli stated a few weeks ago that him and Tom were in the same class. In his dreams.

Tom's fundamentals were as crisp and precise as they could be for a pocket QB. I am a diehard NYG fan, plus a fan of the league. That was a treat to watch Brady last night.
</P>


Dude, Brady was ****ing ridiculous last night. I love his demeanor, and i love the Pats game plan:
Do I know anyone in this 2ndary? no? Throw for 500+ yards! readyyyy go! Totally ****ing abusive, and i loved watching it.
Despite my hatred for boston.......to the dismay of Morehead, I dont hate the pats, very neutral towards them. The only time I didn't like themwas SB42....The Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object!!
plus, any team that plays against the jets is hard not to root for =P (dallas the exception this week obviously. **** dallas)</P>


</P>


Of course...The only Boston team I don't root for.</P>


Brady is everything a QB needs to be. The guy is flat out great.</P>


Right now, Rodgers, Rivers, Brees all take a back seat.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 08:56 AM
And speaking of that, why aren't we bringing in Will Allen. Questionable ball skills but a nice cover guy. Perfect for our system.thats a GREAT question.


the guy didn't even play in the nfl. His biggest and some would say only asset was his speed. He had a knee injury that he missed a half year in 09 of and then didn't even play in 10

ny06
09-13-2011, 08:57 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>


vote for Fisher in 2012</P>


I'm not a fan....</P>


I rather have Gruden despite me finding him annoying. Is he looking for work? lol
We should actually be slightly more concerned about our coordinators perhaps.</P>


</P>


Trust me...</P>


You don't want Gruden as our headcoach. </P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 08:58 AM
Just when that trade for Steven Jackson was looking like it was going to pay off immensely, he got hurt after two carries : (. </p>

lol try and look at the positives

at least he got u double digit points and u dont have to worry about cheering he gets his vs the giants

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:00 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:01 AM
It was abundantly clear to me last night that Eli is not in the same Universe of QB's as Tom Brady. I know Eli stated a few weeks ago that him and Tom were in the same class. In his dreams.

Tom's fundamentals were as crisp and precise as they could be for a pocket QB. I am a diehard NYG fan, plus a fan of the league. That was a treat to watch Brady last night.
</p>


Dude, Brady was ****ing ridiculous last night. I love his demeanor, and i love the Pats game plan:
Do I know anyone in this 2ndary? no? Throw for 500+ yards! readyyyy go! Totally ****ing abusive, and i loved watching it.
Despite my hatred for boston.......to the dismay of Morehead, I dont hate the pats, very neutral towards them. The only time I didn't like themwas SB42....The Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object!!
plus, any team that plays against the jets is hard not to root for =P (dallas the exception this week obviously. **** dallas)</p>I Concur entirely. Unreal last night was Brady. Pat's were my mortal enemy the year of sb 42 and whenever we play them. When we are not playing them, how can you not enjoy watching that teams talent? What was Brady's records last night--he was top 5 or 6 for overall nfl ydge and also a Mnf record , I believe.


i think a record was broken on the amount of 300 yard games by QBs in one week yestreday

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 09:01 AM
Of course...The only Boston team I don't root for.


Brady is everything a QB needs to be. The guy is flat out great.</P>


Right now, Rodgers, Rivers, Brees all take a back seat.</P>


</P>


I also find it pretty awesome that after 10 years, he's still tops. And hedoes it effortlessly. It's like we quickly forgot he was MVP last year b/c they didn't win anything. Do you think last night pushes them to AFC favorite? Call me crazy, but even the Jets corners can't stop what was going on in Miami last night. 2 tight ends totally dominating every spot on the field. How do you matchup against 2 TEs, and 3 good WRs??? Youcan't!Welker looked awesome also too might I add.</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 09:02 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 09:04 AM
Of course...The only Boston team I don't root for.


Brady is everything a QB needs to be. The guy is flat out great.</P>


Right now, Rodgers, Rivers, Brees all take a back seat.</P>


</P>


I also find it pretty awesome that after 10 years, he's still tops. And hedoes it effortlessly. It's like we quickly forgot he was MVP last year b/c they didn't win anything. Do you think last night pushes them to AFC favorite? Call me crazy, but even the Jets corners can't stop what was going on in Miami last night. 2 tight ends totally dominating every spot on the field. How do you matchup against 2 TEs, and 3 good WRs??? Youcan't!Welker looked awesome also too might I add.</P>


</P>


I was actually very surprised at how poor they were on defense. But BB should probably light a fire under them.</P>


Offense? Pretty friggin awesome. How about those two TE's. I'd take either one of them.</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 09:06 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</P>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</P>


But what the hell.</P>


Fisher</P>


Gruden</P>


Cowher</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 09:06 AM
It was abundantly clear to me last night that Eli is not in the same Universe of QB's as Tom Brady. I know Eli stated a few weeks ago that him and Tom were in the same class. In his dreams.

Tom's fundamentals were as crisp and precise as they could be for a pocket QB. I am a diehard NYG fan, plus a fan of the league. That was a treat to watch Brady last night.
</p>


Dude, Brady was ****ing ridiculous last night. I love his demeanor, and i love the Pats game plan:
Do I know anyone in this 2ndary? no? Throw for 500+ yards! readyyyy go! Totally ****ing abusive, and i loved watching it.
Despite my hatred for boston.......to the dismay of Morehead, I dont hate the pats, very neutral towards them. The only time I didn't like themwas SB42....The Unstoppable Force meets the Immovable Object!!
plus, any team that plays against the jets is hard not to root for =P (dallas the exception this week obviously. **** dallas)</p>I Concur entirely. Unreal last night was Brady. Pat's were my mortal enemy the year of sb 42 and whenever we play them. When we are not playing them, how can you not enjoy watching that teams talent? What was Brady's records last night--he was top 5 or 6 for overall nfl ydge and also a Mnf record , I believe.


i think a record was broken on the amount of 300 yard games by QBs in one week yestreday
The 99-yard play, completed with 5:44 left, is an NFL record (no one can
throw a 100-yard TD pass) and set team and Monday Night Football passing
records for Brady. This from :

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2011/09/13/sports/10174683.txt

So many records set last night, it's hard to find them all in 1 media source.

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 09:07 AM
i think a record was broken on the amount of 300 yard games by QBs in one week yestreday
</P>


I think 554 is the record. Van Brocklin?</P>

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 09:09 AM
The 99-yard play, completed with 5:44 left, is an NFL record (no one can throw a 100-yard TD pass) and set team and Monday Night Football passing records for Brady. This from :

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2011/09/13/sports/10174683.txt

So many records set last night, it's hard to find them all in 1 media source.
</P>


yea but it just ties a record, b/c it's been done before.

That play was terrible for Miami.
Obvious passing play, nobody in the backfield next to or behind brady. 4 WRs and a TE lined up to the side of the line, and nobody in the 2ndary? It was going to be a 3 dropstep quick pass. so ridiculously obvious, and NO coverage lol.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:20 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?


lol

ya know as much as i like Cowher, im not sure hes not just as stubborn

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:21 AM
i think a record was broken on the amount of 300 yard games by QBs in one week yestreday
</p>


I think 554 is the record. Van Brocklin?</p>

lol reread what i said, u misread

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:22 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</p>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</p>


But what the hell.</p>


Fisher</p>


Gruden</p>


Cowher</p>

i dont think I want Gruden

to be honest, for a QB coach he did a horrible job in TB and got lucky with Gannon in Oakland

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:23 AM
Of course...The only Boston team I don't root for.


Brady is everything a QB needs to be. The guy is flat out great.</p>


Right now, Rodgers, Rivers, Brees all take a back seat.</p>


</p>


I also find it pretty awesome that after 10 years, he's still tops. And hedoes it effortlessly. It's like we quickly forgot he was MVP last year b/c they didn't win anything. Do you think last night pushes them to AFC favorite? Call me crazy, but even the Jets corners can't stop what was going on in Miami last night. 2 tight ends totally dominating every spot on the field. How do you matchup against 2 TEs, and 3 good WRs??? Youcan't!Welker looked awesome also too might I add.</p>


</p>


I was actually very surprised at how poor they were on defense. But BB should probably light a fire under them.</p>


Offense? Pretty friggin awesome. How about those two TE's. I'd take either one of them.</p>

really? I dont really see anything on their defense but a DLine on the decline but still legit and Mayo the Monster. Their secondary is awful.

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 09:24 AM
lol

ya know as much as i like Cowher, im not sure hes not just as stubborn


</P>


Don't like him at all....never have, never will. Rather have Fisher if that's the case...and like I said, I don't like him at all either lol</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 09:24 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?


lol

ya know as much as i like Cowher, im not sure hes not just as stubborn


oh -he's the definition of stubborn. However--he always appeared to have a repor(sp?) with his players...congratulatory on the sidelines, etc. I don't really see that with TC.

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 09:26 AM
i think a record was broken on the amount of 300 yard games by QBs in one week yestreday
</P>


I think 554 is the record. Van Brocklin?</P>




lol reread what i said, u misread
</P>


no i know...i just quoted the wrong post. my bad</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 09:28 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</P>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</P>


But what the hell.</P>


Fisher</P>


Gruden</P>


Cowher</P>




i dont think I want Gruden

to be honest, for a QB coach he did a horrible job in TB and got lucky with Gannon in Oakland
</P>


Ironic. He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. Not sure about the other two.</P>


I think my first choice would be Fisher.</P>


Quite honestly, the stubborness of TC is so horrible, it is crippling this team. His rediculous loyalty to his staff. He essentially had to be threatened to fire both Tim Lewis and Sheridan. His loyalty to KG is killing this offense. There is no imagination. No originality and no creativity on this entire team.</P>


Its a team that is stuck in the mud. Stuck in the past. We are standing still while the rest of the NFL is passing us by. It will be our undoing.</P>


But lets stick to "the plan".</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 09:28 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</p>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</p>


But what the hell.</p>


Fisher</p>


Gruden</p>


Cowher</p>

i dont think I want Gruden

to be honest, for a QB coach he did a horrible job in TB and got lucky with Gannon in Oakland
I have always wondered about that SB he won vs Oakland. It was the year after he left Oakland right? I know things change drastically in a short year in the nfl....but it just seemed like the Tampa Defense knew every move Oakland was going to make. It was uncanny.

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 09:32 AM
idk about that with Gruden, Matt....it's not like he was ever given a decent QB to start with. But at the same time, I think he's more of a total package than Cowher(and clearly more personable), and that by itself puts him ahead of Fisher on my list.
No real reasoning, I just think he's the best fit, cuz I think it's as opposite of Coughlin as you can get, and I think that's what the team needs. The opposite.

ny06
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</P>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</P>


But what the hell.</P>


Fisher</P>


Gruden</P>


Cowher</P>




i dont think I want Gruden

to be honest, for a QB coach he did a horrible job in TB and got lucky with Gannon in Oakland
I have always wondered about that SB he won vs Oakland. It was the year after he left Oakland right? I know things change drastically in a short year in the nfl....but it just seemed like the Tampa Defense knew every move Oakland was going to make. It was uncanny.
</P>


Because they did.</P>


Gruden drew up all the offensive plays that the Raiders were using. </P>


</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 09:40 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Zgmqk.jpg

ny06
09-13-2011, 09:43 AM
idk about that with Gruden, Matt....it's not like he was ever given a decent QB to start with. But at the same time, I think he's more of a total package than Cowher(and clearly more personable), and that by itself puts him ahead of Fisher on my list.
No real reasoning, I just think he's the best fit, cuz I think it's as opposite of Coughlin as you can get, and I think that's what the team needs. The opposite.</P>


Let me explain why Gruden will be a bad fit here. </P>


As you all know I have lived in the Tampa area for a few years now (Originally from NY)</P>


So I got to see Gruden's Tampa teams. </P>


He alienates fan favorites, if your not a Gruden guy you will either rot on the bench, or he will trade you. </P>


The fans hate him down here, and so do most of his former players. </P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 09:45 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</p>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</p>


But what the hell.</p>


Fisher</p>


Gruden</p>


Cowher</p>




i dont think I want Gruden

to be honest, for a QB coach he did a horrible job in TB and got lucky with Gannon in Oakland
I have always wondered about that SB he won vs Oakland. It was the year after he left Oakland right? I know things change drastically in a short year in the nfl....but it just seemed like the Tampa Defense knew every move Oakland was going to make. It was uncanny.
</p>


Because they did.</p>


Gruden drew up all the offensive plays that the Raiders were using. </p>


</p>I always believed that.

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 09:45 AM
idk about that with Gruden, Matt....it's not like he was ever given a decent QB to start with. But at the same time, I think he's more of a total package than Cowher(and clearly more personable), and that by itself puts him ahead of Fisher on my list.
No real reasoning, I just think he's the best fit, cuz I think it's as opposite of Coughlin as you can get, and I think that's what the team needs. The opposite.</P>


Let me explain why Gruden will be a bad fit here. </P>


As you all know I have lived in the Tampa area for a few years now (Originally from NY)</P>


So I got to see Gruden's Tampa teams. </P>


He alienates fan favorites, if your not a Gruden guy you will either rot on the bench, or he will trade you. </P>


The fans hate him down here, and so do most of his former players. </P>


</P>


Yeah I think Gruden isa natural born broadcaster.</P>

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 09:45 AM
I have always wondered about that SB he won vs Oakland. It was the year after he left Oakland right? I know things change drastically in a short year in the nfl....but it just seemed like the Tampa Defense knew every move Oakland was going to make. It was uncanny.
</P>


Wasn't Gruden traded to TB for Sapp? lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:47 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</p>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</p>


But what the hell.</p>


Fisher</p>


Gruden</p>


Cowher</p>




i dont think I want Gruden

to be honest, for a QB coach he did a horrible job in TB and got lucky with Gannon in Oakland
</p>


Ironic. He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. Not sure about the other two.</p>


I think my first choice would be Fisher.</p>


Quite honestly, the stubborness of TC is so horrible, it is crippling this team. His rediculous loyalty to his staff. He essentially had to be threatened to fire both Tim Lewis and Sheridan. His loyalty to KG is killing this offense. There is no imagination. No originality and no creativity on this entire team.</p>


Its a team that is stuck in the mud. Stuck in the past. We are standing still while the rest of the NFL is passing us by. It will be our undoing.</p>


But lets stick to "the plan".</p>

u've really lost your mind if u think Gruden or Fisher would get rid of Eli. ANy coach for that matter.

You know I dont like Gilbride, but I dont feel like he was even an issue yesterday. It all came down to the OLine for me for the lack of offenses production.

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:49 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</p>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</p>


But what the hell.</p>


Fisher</p>


Gruden</p>


Cowher</p>

i dont think I want Gruden

to be honest, for a QB coach he did a horrible job in TB and got lucky with Gannon in Oakland
I have always wondered about that SB he won vs Oakland. It was the year after he left Oakland right? I know things change drastically in a short year in the nfl....but it just seemed like the Tampa Defense knew every move Oakland was going to make. It was uncanny.


he did, he played against his players and his system. Oakland had no shot

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 09:50 AM
I don't know if this is true. You know the Water slide at Atlantis-Bahamas? They are saying that a reef shark jumped out of it's tank and ended up in the slide where the people are.

The slide is designed to go thru the shark tank, so you can view the sharks on either side of you as you ride the slide.


http://i.imgur.com/3D1Mq.jpg

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:52 AM
idk about that with Gruden, Matt....it's not like he was ever given a decent QB to start with. But at the same time, I think he's more of a total package than Cowher(and clearly more personable), and that by itself puts him ahead of Fisher on my list.
No real reasoning, I just think he's the best fit, cuz I think it's as opposite of Coughlin as you can get, and I think that's what the team needs. The opposite.

but thats the thing, he never drafted one. He always went with these middle of the road vets and Chris Simms and Shaun King lol

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:54 AM
idk about that with Gruden, Matt....it's not like he was ever given a decent QB to start with. But at the same time, I think he's more of a total package than Cowher(and clearly more personable), and that by itself puts him ahead of Fisher on my list.
No real reasoning, I just think he's the best fit, cuz I think it's as opposite of Coughlin as you can get, and I think that's what the team needs. The opposite.</p>


Let me explain why Gruden will be a bad fit here. </p>


As you all know I have lived in the Tampa area for a few years now (Originally from NY)</p>


So I got to see Gruden's Tampa teams. </p>


He alienates fan favorites, if your not a Gruden guy you will either rot on the bench, or he will trade you. </p>


The fans hate him down here, and so do most of his former players. </p>


</p>


Yeah I think Gruden isa natural born broadcaster.</p>

and hes great at it. Love when he takes shots at Jaws

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 09:55 AM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>


vote for Fisher in 2012

i think cowher is the writing on the wall

but i really don't want to run a 3-4

but i do want my corners playing press
Could be time for the Cowher avatar again?
</P>


Pretty horrible to talk about replacements at HC after one game.</P>


But what the hell.</P>


Fisher</P>


Gruden</P>


Cowher</P>




i dont think I want Gruden

to be honest, for a QB coach he did a horrible job in TB and got lucky with Gannon in Oakland
</P>


Ironic. He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. Not sure about the other two.</P>


I think my first choice would be Fisher.</P>


Quite honestly, the stubborness of TC is so horrible, it is crippling this team. His rediculous loyalty to his staff. He essentially had to be threatened to fire both Tim Lewis and Sheridan. His loyalty to KG is killing this offense. There is no imagination. No originality and no creativity on this entire team.</P>


Its a team that is stuck in the mud. Stuck in the past. We are standing still while the rest of the NFL is passing us by. It will be our undoing.</P>


But lets stick to "the plan".</P>




u've really lost your mind if u think Gruden or Fisher would get rid of Eli. ANy coach for that matter.

You know I dont like Gilbride, but I dont feel like he was even an issue yesterday. It all came down to the OLine for me for the lack of offenses production.


</P>


Your reading skills lately are falling apart. I said that Gruden would definately keep Eli. And I don't think a guy like Fisher would dump Eli. But I would suggest almost any new head coach would want his own stamp on the team. That would probably mean drafting a QB early or bringing in a vet to compete. Not a paper tiger like Carr.</P>


Don't kid yourself Matt, most solid NFL guys aren't as high on Eli as you are. You may or may not be right about Eli, but either way you are in the minority.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 09:58 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:06 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <FONT size=6>Not sure about the other two.

<FONT size=3>my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</FONT></FONT></P>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </P>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</P>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 10:08 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>

well then u really have no basis for saying that cuz I listen to it prety much 8 hours a day.

I dont like when bull**** pours out of ur mouth. I miss the honest and logical thinking pappy

this "new" you is unbecoming

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 10:16 AM
idk about that with Gruden, Matt....it's not like he was ever given a decent QB to start with. But at the same time, I think he's more of a total package than Cowher(and clearly more personable), and that by itself puts him ahead of Fisher on my list.
No real reasoning, I just think he's the best fit, <u>cuz I think it's as opposite of Coughlin as you can get, and I think that's what the team needs.</u> The opposite.i dont know about that. people make to much out of this. this team NEEDS a kick in the *** after this sunday. its unfortunate that tc gets the blame for horrible play calling when he doesnt even call the plays, but the buck stops with him.

i would love cowher or gruden, but i really dont want to change to a 3-4 as matt said. it would be a sin with this line.

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 10:18 AM
idk about that with Gruden, Matt....it's not like he was ever given a decent QB to start with. But at the same time, I think he's more of a total package than Cowher(and clearly more personable), and that by itself puts him ahead of Fisher on my list.
No real reasoning, I just think he's the best fit, <u>cuz I think it's as opposite of Coughlin as you can get, and I think that's what the team needs.</u> The opposite.i dont know about that. people make to much out of this. this team NEEDS a kick in the *** after this sunday. its unfortunate that tc gets the blame for horrible play calling when he doesnt even call the plays, but the buck stops with him.

i would love cowher or gruden, but i really dont want to change to a 3-4 as matt said. it would be a sin with this line.


Its coughlin decision to let GIlbride to continue with his way sthough, so it is on him

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 10:19 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:23 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <FONT size=6>Not sure about the other two.

<FONT size=3>my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</FONT></FONT></P>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </P>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</P>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</P>




well then u really have no basis for saying that cuz I listen to it prety much 8 hours a day.

I dont like when bull**** pours out of ur mouth. I miss the honest and logical thinking pappy

this "new" you is unbecoming
</P>


I don't regurgitate everything I hear. I actually come to my own conclusions.</P>


But again, if you think that a new HC isn't going to be very diligent in their review of Eli, you are whistling past the graveyard.</P>


Of course thats logic 101. A guy takes a job as an NFL HC. His entire career is on the line and you think he should rubber stamp the QB because he won a SB 4 years earlier.</P>


No one survives in the NFL thinking like that.</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 10:26 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an <u>NFL Sirius</u> guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>Definitely one of my sources-I enjoy Ross Tucker

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:27 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <FONT size=6>Not sure about the other two.

<FONT size=3>my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</FONT></FONT></P>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </P>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</P>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</P>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</P>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</P>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is. You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him? You know where that attitude gets you?</P>


It gets you Kerry Collins on two weeks practice to be the QB of the Colts. You always have to look to cultivate a new QB.</P>


<U>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</U> </P>


MMB</P>


DEZZ</P>


</P>


Anyone else?</P>

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 10:30 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</p>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</p>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<u> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</u></p>


<u>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</u> </p>


MMB</p>


DEZZ</p>


</p>


Anyone else?</p>yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.

shocknaweny
09-13-2011, 10:31 AM
Bill Cowher please....TC has lost this team....should have been fired in '09....thi may be THEE WORST coaching staff in all of football....I like Gruden too or ****ing anybody but TC....and Fewell is overrated too.....the secondary couldn't cover **** so blitz all day long.....**** it.</P>


Oh looking for another receiver....in FF in a trade ( a good one )</P>

shocknaweny
09-13-2011, 10:32 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <FONT size=6>Not sure about the other two.

<FONT size=3>my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</FONT></FONT></P>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </P>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</P>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</P>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</P>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</P>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<U> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</U></P>


<U>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</U> </P>


MMB</P>


DEZZ</P>


</P>


Anyone else?</P>


yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.
</P>


</P>


add me to the cut Eli list ( actually trade him for a 1st rounder )</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 10:32 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>




well then u really have no basis for saying that cuz I listen to it prety much 8 hours a day.

I dont like when bull**** pours out of ur mouth. I miss the honest and logical thinking pappy

this "new" you is unbecoming
</p>


I don't regurgitate everything I here. I actually come to my own conclusions.</p>


But again, if you think that a new HC isn't going to be very diligent in their review of Eli, you are whistling past the graveyard.</p>


Of course thats logic 101. A guy takes a job as an NFL HC. His entire career is on the line and you think he should rubber stamp the QB because he won a SB 4 years earlier.</p>


No one survives in the NFL thinking like that.</p>Alot of times it doesn't matter if it's actually Eli's fault. Matt pointed out very clearly yesterday how the int-was not on Eli. I think the issue larger than Eli's performance is his Franchise QB price tag. I don't know the details of it, but I imagine it has a lot to do with replacing him and effecting the teams finances. That being said, I'm not convinced that if Eli does not start to make something happen he is going to fall into the crosshairs of the coaches.

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:33 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <FONT size=6>Not sure about the other two.

<FONT size=3>my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</FONT></FONT></P>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </P>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</P>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</P>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</P>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</P>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<U> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</U></P>


<U>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</U> </P>


MMB</P>


DEZZ</P>


</P>


Anyone else?</P>


yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.
</P>


I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</P>


TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:35 AM
Bill Cowher please....TC has lost this team....should have been fired in '09....thi may be THEE WORST coaching staff in all of football....I like Gruden too or ****ing anybody but TC....and Fewell is overrated too.....the secondary couldn't cover **** so blitz all day long.....**** it.</P>


Oh looking for another receiver....in FF in a trade ( a good one )</P>


</P>


I tried to give you one. I need another RB.</P>

DavenIII
09-13-2011, 10:38 AM
I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</p>


TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</p>

I think Morehead's learned how to troll...congrats Morehead..you are the new me :)

say something completely and utterly ridiculous...but say it with conviction, and make sure it's about something people care about...

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 10:38 AM
Donal Driver or jeremy Maclin? Who would you start?

I just think that Philly is going to really start firing on all wr's this week.

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 10:40 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>




well then u really have no basis for saying that cuz I listen to it prety much 8 hours a day.

I dont like when bull**** pours out of ur mouth. I miss the honest and logical thinking pappy

this "new" you is unbecoming
</p>


I don't regurgitate everything I hear. I actually come to my own conclusions.</p>

aka you pull **** out of ur ***

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 10:41 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</p>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</p>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is. You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him? You know where that attitude gets you?</p>


It gets you Kerry Collins on two weeks practice to be the QB of the Colts. You always have to look to cultivate a new QB.</p>


<u>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</u> </p>


MMB</p>


DEZZ</p>


</p>


Anyone else?</p>

lol yes.. we are eli cultist because we dont think if we get a new coach next year that Eli's job would be in trouble


Pappy is captain of #teamdramatic

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 10:42 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</p>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</p>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<u> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</u></p>


<u>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</u> </p>


MMB</p>


DEZZ</p>


</p>


Anyone else?</p>


yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.
</p>


</p>


add me to the cut Eli list ( actually trade him for a 1st rounder )</p>

Pappy - isn't it official that once a canuck agrees with you that you are wrong

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 10:43 AM
I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</p>


TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</p>

I think Morehead's learned how to troll...congrats Morehead..you are the new me :)

say something completely and utterly ridiculous...but say it with conviction, and make sure it's about something people care about...




trolling is saying things to get a rise

i actually think hes serious with what he says. Or has he become just the greatest troll we've ever seen?

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:43 AM
I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</P>


TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</P>




I think Morehead's learned how to troll...congrats Morehead..you are the new me :)

say something completely and utterly ridiculous...but say it with conviction, and make sure it's about something people care about...


</P>


In what universe does a new HC not look to bring in his own players?</P>


Only in the skewed, twisted world of the Eli Cultists does accepted reality not apply.</P>


If TC is gone, a new HC will either draft a QB or bring in a new vet to compete. It has always been true and it will always be true.</P>

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 10:43 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</p>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</p>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<u> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</u></p>


<u>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</u> </p>


MMB</p>


DEZZ</p>


</p>


Anyone else?</p>


yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.
</p>


I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</p>


<u>TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</u></p>yea thin skinned eli, a qb with one of the most 4th quarter comebacks by an active qb.

and i saw tc scolding eli the other day so i dont know what youre talking about. i can think of 15 players off the top of my head that had a much worse day than eli and youre still on his nuts. youre hating.

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 10:44 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</p>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</p>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is. You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him? You know where that attitude gets you?</p>


It gets you Kerry Collins on two weeks practice to be the QB of the Colts. You always have to look to cultivate a new QB.</p>


<u>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</u> </p>


MMB</p>


DEZZ</p>


</p>


Anyone else?</p>

lol yes.. we are eli cultist because we dont think if we get a new coach next year that Eli's job would be in trouble


Pappy is captain of #teamdramatic
lol--you really come out with the doosies

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 10:46 AM
I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</p>


TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</p>




I think Morehead's learned how to troll...congrats Morehead..you are the new me :)

say something completely and utterly ridiculous...but say it with conviction, and make sure it's about something people care about...


</p>


In what universe does a new HC not look to bring in his own players?</p>


Only in the skewed, twisted world of the Eli Cultists does accepted reality not apply.</p>


If TC is gone, a new HC will either draft a QB or bring in a new vet to compete. It has always been true and it will always be true.</p>

http://images.dcheetahimages.com/www.vikingmagic.com/ama/med/straitjacket_new1.jpg

bigblue4417
09-13-2011, 10:46 AM
It was abundantly clear to me last night that Eli is not in the same Universe of QB's as Tom Brady. I know Eli stated a few weeks ago that him and Tom were in the same class. In his dreams.

Tom's fundamentals were as crisp and precise as they could be for a pocket QB. I am a diehard NYG fan, plus a fan of the league. That was a treat to watch Brady last night.

I thought the same thing last night.

It was nice to watch Brady do that, just not to my fantasy team. lol

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 10:47 AM
yea thin skinned eli, <U>a qb with one of the most 4th quarter comebacks by an active qb.

</U>and i saw tc scolding eli the other day so i dont know what youre talking about. i can think of 15 players off the top of my head that had a much worse day than eli and youre still on his nuts. youre hating.
</P>


is that true? didnt know that. impressive....</P>

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 10:49 AM
In what universe....Only in the skewed, twisted world....


wait...so like.....MoreheadLand????</P>


It's all coming together more and more every day...</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:50 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <FONT size=6>Not sure about the other two.

<FONT size=3>my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</FONT></FONT></P>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </P>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</P>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</P>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</P>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</P>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<U> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</U></P>


<U>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</U> </P>


MMB</P>


DEZZ</P>


</P>


Anyone else?</P>


yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.
</P>


I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</P>


<U>TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</U></P>


yea thin skinned eli, a qb with one of the most 4th quarter comebacks by an active qb.

and i saw tc scolding eli the other day so i dont know what youre talking about. i can think of 15 players off the top of my head that had a much worse day than eli and youre still on his nuts. youre hating.
</P>


Has very little to do with Sunday's game. It has to do with the general direction of his play over the past two years. His play from the playoff run in 07 thru the 08 season was perfectly fine with me. And would most certainly be OK with any new HC. His play since then has declined. His decision making has worsened. But this is especially true starting last season and continuing into the preseason and now into game 1.</P>


If a new HC believes that he can get the kind of play from Eli that we saw a few years ago, I'm fine with that. I have no hate for Eli at all. I just hate his play over that past year and a half.</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:52 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <FONT size=6>Not sure about the other two.

<FONT size=3>my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</FONT></FONT></P>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </P>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</P>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</P>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</P>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</P>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<U> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</U></P>


<U>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</U> </P>


MMB</P>


DEZZ</P>


</P>


Anyone else?</P>


yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.
</P>


I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</P>


<U>TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</U></P>


yea thin skinned eli, a qb with one of the most 4th quarter comebacks by an active qb.

and i saw tc scolding eli the other day so i dont know what youre talking about. i can think of 15 players off the top of my head that had a much worse day than eli and youre still on his nuts. youre hating.
</P>


How many of those comebacks have you seen over the past few years?</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 10:53 AM
It was abundantly clear to me last night that Eli is not in the same Universe of QB's as Tom Brady. I know Eli stated a few weeks ago that him and Tom were in the same class. In his dreams.

Tom's fundamentals were as crisp and precise as they could be for a pocket QB. I am a diehard NYG fan, plus a fan of the league. That was a treat to watch Brady last night.

I thought the same thing last night.

It was nice to watch Brady do that, just not to my fantasy team. lol
Funny you say that---I was frantic trying to see who had Brady in our league.

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 10:54 AM
I'm back on the IBM site today, and there's only 2 desks here....and there are 2 scheduled appointments at the same time. One for a mortgage originator, and 1 for our investment rep....</P>


so that leaves no desk for the rest of us. yay!! hopefully we can drag this out as long as we can! lol</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 10:54 AM
In what universe....Only in the skewed, twisted world....


wait...so like.....MoreheadLand????</P>


It's all coming together more and more every day...</P>


</P>


Again its classic Pizz. Sitting on the sidelines and throwing rocks at those in the arena. Do you actually have an opinion, or are you too afraid to express it?</P>


God knows your too afraid to take a strong position in TAGF.</P>

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 10:58 AM
In what universe....Only in the skewed, twisted world....


wait...so like.....MoreheadLand????</P>


It's all coming together more and more every day...</P>


</P>


Again its classic Pizz. Sitting on the sidelines and throwing rocks at those in the arena. Do you actually have an opinion, or are you too afraid to express it?</P>


God knows your too afraid to take a strong position in TAGF.</P>


</P>


I already made my opinions clear. which do you want to revisit first?

1) youre already complaining about Eli again, week 1, when there's way too much blame to be passed around. But you just focus on that. Whatever, that's your opinion. So much for "global thinking"

2) Yes, we do need a new coach. I said that LAST year....and I was shocked that TC and staff got extended. We have to clean house. All of them....</P>

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 10:59 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</p>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</p>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<u> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</u></p>


<u>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</u> </p>


MMB</p>


DEZZ</p>


</p>


Anyone else?</p>


yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.
</p>


I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</p>


<u>TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</u></p>


yea thin skinned eli, a qb with one of the most 4th quarter comebacks by an active qb.

and i saw tc scolding eli the other day so i dont know what youre talking about. i can think of 15 players off the top of my head that had a much worse day than eli and youre still on his nuts. youre hating.
</p>


Has very little to do with Sunday's game. It has to do with the general direction of his play over the past two years. His play from the playoff run in 07 thru the 08 season was perfectly fine with me. And would most certainly be OK with any new HC.<u> His play since then has declined. </u>His decision making has worsened. But this is especially true starting last season and continuing into the preseason and now into game 1.</p>


If a new HC believes that he can get the kind of play from Eli that we saw a few years ago, I'm fine with that. I have no hate for Eli at all. I just hate his play over that past year and a half.</p>thas simply not true. in ONE AREA (INTS) he declined, in ALL others hes improved.

shocknaweny
09-13-2011, 11:00 AM
Bill Cowher please....TC has lost this team....should have been fired in '09....thi may be THEE WORST coaching staff in all of football....I like Gruden too or ****ing anybody but TC....and Fewell is overrated too.....the secondary couldn't cover **** so blitz all day long.....**** it.</P>


Oh looking for another receiver....in FF in a trade ( a good one )</P>


</P>


I tried to give you one. I need another RB.</P>


</P>


</P>


Well have a look then my friend.</P>

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 11:00 AM
He's the one guy who would definately keep Eli. <font size="6">Not sure about the other two.

<font size="3">my comment still stands, your out of your mind. I read exactly what you said.

No coach is going to look to get rid of a superbowl QB.

Actually, they are. Stop listening to talking heads on ESPN.
</font></font></p>


I never watch ESPN. I'm an NFL Sirius guy myself. </p>


Eli was a SB QB 4 years ago. He's a good player but if the team collapses (which is a distinct possibility) all positions have to be reviewed. If you don't think that a new coach is going to be absolutely convinced that Eli is the QB of the future for the Giants, the guy he would attach his future as a coach to, you are dreaming.</p>


Stop drinking the koolaid Matt and look at the real world.</p>


mh, if you think cowher or gruden(whos said multiple times he would LOVE to coach eli) would look for a new qb youre out of your ****ing mind. maybe for depth behind carr. lol
</p>


When a HC gets fired it almost always means that the team has failed. Any HC would demand him own system and his own player types to take a job. And no one would ever take a job as HC when ownership demands that the existing QB not be replaced.</p>


Eli is 30. He has peaked. He aint getting any better. This is who he is.<u> You don't think that if there is a QB they love in the draft they wouldn't consider him?</u></p>


<u>THEE Thread Eli Cultist</u> </p>


MMB</p>


DEZZ</p>


</p>


Anyone else?</p>


yea like i said, depth behind eli. you think a new coach is going to come in, kick eli to the curb and go with a roook??? what the hell is the matter with you? youre getting worse by the day.
</p>


I don't think that at all. But I do think that they would consider drafting a future QB and/or bringing in a vet to compete. Very few QB's are untouchable. Especially on a team that is struggling.</p>


<u>TC is tough on everyone on this team except Eli. he knows that Eli is thin skinned and delicate. No way a new coach puts up with that crap.</u></p>


yea thin skinned eli, a qb with one of the most 4th quarter comebacks by an active qb.

and i saw tc scolding eli the other day so i dont know what youre talking about. i can think of 15 players off the top of my head that had a much worse day than eli and youre still on his nuts. youre hating.
</p>


How many of those comebacks have you seen over the past few years?</p>not many with this vanilla defense. they cant keep us in games. its the new york giants, not the new york elis.

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 11:00 AM
And I hate TAGF during the season. Even when we win games it's like *****Fest3000 in there.

I don't care to read a bunch of recycled complaining on an hourly basis. We already get enough of that in the thread alone. lol

shocknaweny
09-13-2011, 11:01 AM
Oh right the Mike Thomas for Javid Best = no bueno....I was thinking Steve Johnson...

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 11:08 AM
In what universe....Only in the skewed, twisted world....


wait...so like.....MoreheadLand????</P>


It's all coming together more and more every day...</P>


</P>


Again its classic Pizz. Sitting on the sidelines and throwing rocks at those in the arena. Do you actually have an opinion, or are you too afraid to express it?</P>


God knows your too afraid to take a strong position in TAGF.</P>


</P>


I already made my opinions clear. which do you want to revisit first?

1) youre already complaining about Eli again, week 1, when there's way too much blame to be passed around. But you just focus on that. Whatever, that's your opinion. So much for "global thinking"

2) Yes, we do need a new coach. I said that LAST year....and I was shocked that TC and staff got extended. We have to clean house. All of them....</P>


</P>


Nice try. I said after the game that Eli was not to blame for Sunday's loss. I said that the entire team played poorly, including Eli.</P>


My reaction is to those who single out Eli for playing well on Sunday and it was everybody else who played poorly. Yes...this pisses me off. Because its a fantasy. He looked the same as he did in pre season. A bit lost and out of synce with the offense.</P>


Then they start quoting his yardage stats as proof. Wow....268 yards.... Awesome. </P>


I will always argue with that kind of thinking. Eli wasn't any worse than anyone else on Sunday. And I will NEVER accept that a QB doesn't have the responsibilty to see the position of defenders and make the appropriate play given the situation at hand. If he misread the defender or if the defender made a great play, I can see that. But don't tell me the play calls for him to make that throw no matter where the defender are.</P>


You don't like it..... Too ****ing bad. Or at least make your best argument to the contrary.</P>


But you won't do that. You just throw stones from the sidelines. Where you are very comfy.</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 11:13 AM
Oh right the Mike Thomas for Javid Best = no bueno....I was thinking Steve Johnson...</P>


I'm thin too at WR. I did the Yahoo evaluation on the trade and you came out way ahead. I'm just looking for depth at RB. I would be giving you one of my starting WR's. But if Matthews is better that OK with me. I'm just looking for a back up RB.</P>


Oh well.</P>

JPizzack
09-13-2011, 11:16 AM
In what universe....Only in the skewed, twisted world....


wait...so like.....MoreheadLand????</P>


It's all coming together more and more every day...</P>


</P>


Again its classic Pizz. Sitting on the sidelines and throwing rocks at those in the arena. Do you actually have an opinion, or are you too afraid to express it?</P>


God knows your too afraid to take a strong position in TAGF.</P>


</P>


I already made my opinions clear. which do you want to revisit first?

1) youre already complaining about Eli again, week 1, when there's way too much blame to be passed around. But you just focus on that. Whatever, that's your opinion. So much for "global thinking"

2) Yes, we do need a new coach. I said that LAST year....and I was shocked that TC and staff got extended. We have to clean house. All of them....</P>


</P>


Nice try. I said after the game that Eli was not to blame for Sunday's loss. I said that the entire team played poorly, including Eli.</P>


My reaction is to those who single out Eli for playing well on Sunday and it was everybody else who played poorly. Yes...this pisses me off. Because its a fantasy. He looked the same as he did in pre season. A bit lost and out of synce with the offense.</P>


Then they start quoting his yardage stats as proof. Wow....268 yards.... Awesome. </P>


I will always argue with that kind of thinking. Eli wasn't any worse than anyone else on Sunday. And I will NEVER accept that a QB doesn't have the responsibilty to see the position of defenders and make the appropriate play given the situation at hand. If he misread the defender or if the defender made a great play, I can see that. But don't tell me the play calls for him to make that throw no matter where the defender are.</P>


You don't like it..... Too ****ing bad. Or at least make your best argument to the contrary.</P>


</P>


in my 3 years here....I consider it a rare ocassion that you blame anything on anyone other than Eli....and saying "Bradshaw played poorly today" doesn't count.
You either just drink the hateraid...or you just have that 1 track mind towards focusing on Eli.
After 3 years of total letdowns, it's not just Eli....just stop...it's annoying...</P>

shocknaweny
09-13-2011, 11:17 AM
Oh right the Mike Thomas for Javid Best = no bueno....I was thinking Steve Johnson...</P>


I'm thin too at WR. I did the Yahoo evaluation on the trade and you came out way ahead. I'm just looking for depth at RB. I would be giving you one of my starting WR's. But if Matthews is better that OK with me. I'm just looking for a back up RB.</P>


Oh well.</P>


</P>


</P>


ahhhh no worries....I think everyone is thin @ receiver in the standard form now....I was expecting a lot from Matthew but I dunno now with Tolbert excelling...maybe CJ Spiller will become a part of the Buffalo Bills resurgence....that and I NEED Sidney Rice to revert back to '09 form too....lol</P>

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 11:17 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 11:19 AM
Oh right the Mike Thomas for Javid Best = no bueno....I was thinking Steve Johnson...</P>


I'm thin too at WR. I did the Yahoo evaluation on the trade and you came out way ahead. I'm just looking for depth at RB. I would be giving you one of my starting WR's. But if Matthews is better that OK with me. I'm just looking for a back up RB.</P>


Oh well.</P>


</P>


</P>


ahhhh no worries....I think everyone is thin @ receiver in the standard form now....I was expecting a lot from Matthew but I dunno now with Tolbert excelling...maybe CJ Spiller will become a part of the Buffalo Bills resurgence....that and I NEED Sidney Rice to revert back to '09 form too....lol</P>


</P>


The problem with Rice isn't Rice. Its the guy throwing to him. Seattle is where WR's go to die.</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 11:19 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</P>


You mean 17 person league.</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 11:20 AM
I'm back on the IBM site today, and there's only 2 desks here....and there are 2 scheduled appointments at the same time. One for a mortgage originator, and 1 for our investment rep....</p>


so that leaves no desk for the rest of us. yay!! hopefully we can drag this out as long as we can! lol</p>That reminds me---I was at my branch yesterday---all the talent has been replaced, it is no longer any fun to go there. I think I will try Carmel. Anyway--I saw the coin machine that you were talking about. The sign clearly says, no dirty, greasy coins. Funny story about that dude who came into your branch and jammed up the machine. lol.

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 11:21 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>yes i did.

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 11:21 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 11:25 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</P>


You mean 17 person league.</P>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</P>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</P>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 11:27 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</p>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</p>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</p>Excellent. I'm next in line for the procedure. Probably winter/spring time. Nothing like a colon cleansing in the spring lol. When does doc want you to do it again?

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 11:31 AM
glad to hear mhs hinny is nice and shinny

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 11:31 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</P>


You mean 17 person league.</P>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</P>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</P>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</P>


Excellent. I'm next in line for the procedure. Probably winter/spring time. Nothing like a colon cleansing in the spring lol. When does doc want you to do it again?
</P>


Not for 10 more years. My wife had hers this past Friday (hre colon is also perfect) and she mixed the drink with some Chrystal Light and used a straw and she had no problem at all. The nurses suggested both. (wish they had told me that before I had to do it)</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 11:32 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</p>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</p>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</p>

GEWWWWWW

forgot u had to do that. Were u able to sit after that? lol

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 11:34 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</p>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</p>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</p>


Excellent. I'm next in line for the procedure. Probably winter/spring time. Nothing like a colon cleansing in the spring lol. When does doc want you to do it again?
</p>


Not for 10 more years. My wife had hers this past Friday (hre colon is also perfect) and she mixed the drink with some Chrystal Light and used a straw and she had no problem at all. The nurses suggested both. (wish they had told me that before I had to do it)</p>Good to see that the Mh's are being proactive in early detection. 10 years is a nice break. I want to get my first baseline scan soon, I'll be 45. My grandmother died of colon cancer.

What is Chrystal light? I've heard of that.

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 11:35 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</p>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</p>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</p>

GEWWWWWW

forgot u had to do that. Were u able to sit after that? lol
Not without a tire tube--similar condition to the girls I've been with

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 11:35 AM
glad to hear mhs hinny is nice and shinny



lol for soem reason that actually made me laugh

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 11:36 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</p>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</p>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</p>

GEWWWWWW

forgot u had to do that. Were u able to sit after that? lol
Not without a tire tube--similar condition to the girls I've been with


well stop sticking it in their ***

sex is made for the pink, not the stink

unless ur gay i guess

(not calling u gay, just saying in general)

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 11:39 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</P>


You mean 17 person league.</P>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</P>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</P>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</P>




GEWWWWWW

forgot u had to do that. Were u able to sit after that? lol
</P>


There is absolutely no effect at all after the procedure. You don't even know it happened. You go back and eat normally. And there is no pain at all. Th eonly think you have is a little air that needs to be release. But farting is ahobby of mineso thats no problem.</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 11:40 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</P>


You mean 17 person league.</P>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</P>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</P>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</P>


Excellent. I'm next in line for the procedure. Probably winter/spring time. Nothing like a colon cleansing in the spring lol. When does doc want you to do it again?
</P>


Not for 10 more years. My wife had hers this past Friday (hre colon is also perfect) and she mixed the drink with some Chrystal Light and used a straw and she had no problem at all. The nurses suggested both. (wish they had told me that before I had to do it)</P>


Good to see that the Mh's are being proactive in early detection. 10 years is a nice break. I want to get my first baseline scan soon, I'll be 45. My grandmother died of colon cancer.

What is Chrystal light? I've heard of that.
</P>


its essentially a sugarless Lemonaide mix. </P>

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 11:44 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</p>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</p>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</p>

GEWWWWWW

forgot u had to do that. Were u able to sit after that? lol
Not without a tire tube--similar condition to the girls I've been with


well stop sticking it in their ***

sex is made for the pink, not the stink

unless ur gay i guess

(not calling u gay, just saying in general)
lmao--now that made me laugh

lttaylor56
09-13-2011, 11:46 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</p>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</p>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</p>




GEWWWWWW

forgot u had to do that. Were u able to sit after that? lol
</p>


There is absolutely no effect at all after the procedure. You don't even know it happened. You go back and eat normally. And there is no pain at all. Th eonly think you have is a little air that needs to be release. But farting is ahobby of mineso thats no problem.</p>Heavy gas times are some of my fondest memmories.

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 11:52 AM
im in an 18 person league. it is madness
</p>


You mean 17 person league.</p>


MH---I know it's seldom discussed, but how did you make out with your butt? You know the gi scope? I hope all is well.
</p>


Thanks for asking my friend. I'm told that I have a perfect colon.</p>


But it was friggin horrible drinking that crap. Had to drink 8 oz. every 15 minutes for 4 hours. Probably gagged on 25% of the gulps.</p>




GEWWWWWW

forgot u had to do that. Were u able to sit after that? lol
</p>


There is absolutely no effect at all after the procedure. You don't even know it happened. You go back and eat normally. And there is no pain at all. Th eonly think you have is a little air that needs to be release. But farting is ahobby of mineso thats no problem.</p>

hahha

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 12:15 PM
mooreheads nasty *** (literally) has killed the thread

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 12:44 PM
did u guys hear about what happened at the Jets- Cowboys game

Some Jehovas Witness wouldn't stand up and was being rude during Taps and the national anthem and a Marine was sitting in his row so they got into an argument.

Nothing happened at that point but then Marine had to go to thebathroom and this guy had the first seat in the row and wouldn't let him go. So they went at it and this ****** bag pulled a tazer gun out and shot the marine?

****in crazy. What a scumbag. Now the guys son is saying its Rex Ryan's fault for creating a hostile environment for saying opposing teams shouldn't wear their jerseys to the game. For the record the guy with the tazer was a Cowboys fan and the Marine was a Jets fan

Good luck sneaking beers in. On the 9/11 game somebody was able to sneak in a tazer.

Great job. This is why unions suck because there can be no slap on the wrist for the meadowlands security. Granted its a hard job because there are so many people, but this was with stepped up security. Its actually scary

sharick88
09-13-2011, 12:55 PM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</P>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</P>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</P>


</P>


Excellent points. The bottom line is that this is a business. There should be no hesitance at all when it comes to dumping underperforming leadership. A coach's job is to maximize the talent and potential. Yes, it is the players' jobs to perform, but it is the coach's job to put them in the best positions to do their jobs. I have a ton of respect for Tom Coughlin, but it is obvious that his loyalty in inept assistants (Quinn and Gilbride) is taking this team down a path of ultimate failure in our immediate future. We have not changed our playbook in years and it shows. In my opinion, win, lose, or draw, I think it is time to go into another direction. I absolutely don't want Cowher to be the replacement either. Onetitle in like 18 years of coaching (given to him by a joke of an officiating crew) does not impress me at all. We need someone younger and someone who can relate more to the current NFL player. I know that Plax said his piece about TC and the front office, but when other players say the same thing about the same people, something is clearly up. I still believe that this team will finish with an 11-5 record. I just think it is time to go in a different direction, regardless of the end result of the season</P>

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 12:59 PM
did u guys hear about what happened at the Jets- Cowboys game

Some Jehovas Witness wouldn't stand up and was being rude during Taps and the national anthem and a Marine was sitting in his row so they got into an argument.

Nothing happened at that point but then Marine had to go to thebathroom and this guy had the first seat in the row and wouldn't let him go. So they went at it and this ****** bag pulled a tazer gun out and shot the marine?

****in crazy. What a scumbag. Now the guys son is saying its Rex Ryan's fault for creating a hostile environment for saying opposing teams shouldn't wear their jerseys to the game. For the record the guy with the tazer was a Cowboys fan and the Marine was a Jets fan

Good luck sneaking beers in. On the 9/11 game somebody was able to sneak in a tazer.

Great job. This is why unions suck because there can be no slap on the wrist for the meadowlands security. Granted its a hard job because there are so many people, but this was with stepped up security. Its actually scary
it really is scary. i hope the marines buddies laaaid that **** ooooooout

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 01:04 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 01:06 PM
honestly i think there was a good shot they were gone this past season if not for the lockout

If they under acheive again this year - they better be gone. I would of got rid of them after 09
I've wanted him gone for so long now its not even funny...At this point I feel like the end is near...in the mean time I'll root for this teamlike I've done forever...</p>


KG and TC both should be donezo if we stink it up this season. Anything less than a playoff win will be a failed season according to Management</p>


yea honestly, with the amount of talent on this team, winning the division should be the every year expectation, and isn't even that lofty of an expectation in my eyes. it should be what happens.
So I agree with that....
You know they are going to use the injury excuse. Owners just need to stop being hesistant and pull the plug if this ship sinks. It happens to good coaches all the time....Coughlin's time is just over, it doesn't take away what he was able to do here in the past. Still find it hard to believe he's still here really, same goes for gilbride.</p>


</p>


Excellent points. The bottom line is that this is a business. There should be no hesitance at all when it comes to dumping underperforming leadership. A coach's job is to maximize the talent and potential. Yes, it is the players' jobs to perform, but it is the coach's job to put them in the best positions to do their jobs. <u>I have a ton of respect for Tom Coughlin, but it is obvious that his loyalty in inept assistants</u> (Quinn and Gilbride) is taking this team down a path of ultimate failure in our immediate future. We have not changed our playbook in years and it shows. In my opinion, win, lose, or draw, I think it is time to go into another direction. I absolutely don't want Cowher to be the replacement either. Onetitle in like 18 years of coaching (given to him by a joke of an officiating crew) does not impress me at all. We need someone younger and someone who can relate more to the current NFL player. I know that Plax said his piece about TC and the front office, but when other players say the same thing about the same people, something is clearly up. I still believe that this team will finish with an 11-5 record. I just think it is time to go in a different direction, regardless of the end result of the season</p>you hit the nail on the head. tc is loyal to a fault.

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 01:13 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</P>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any political activity of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</P>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </P>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 01:18 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.


thats why i hate religion...

i don't care what anybody says, it causes more harm than it does good

I must disagree with the sentiment that God is the only way to love

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 01:19 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</p>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any political activity of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</p>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </p>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</p>

Thats fine, but the report is they were also being rude and disrespectful to those around them by talking loud.

If you don't wish to partake in it, that is your freedom. But to be disrespectful to others around you, thats a different story.

The irony is that he was being disrespectful to the process that gives him the freedom to sit or stand. Ignorance

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 01:23 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</p>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any <u>political activity</u> of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</p>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </p>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</p>no offense to your friends and witnesses out there but i think thats stupid

maybe its me but i dont see anything political with standing for taps. 3000 people died, more fighting current wars. God will not smight thee for showing some respect to the fallen.

im sick of people hiding behind religion, its a poison

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 01:23 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</P>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any political activity of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</P>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </P>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</P>




Thats fine, but the report is they were also being rude and disrespectful to those around them by talking loud.

If you don't wish to partake in it, that is your freedom. But to be disrespectful to others around you, thats a different story.

The irony is that he was being disrespectful to the process that gives him the freedom to sit or stand. Ignorance
</P>


I doubt it but I can't say obviously. I can imagine a scenario where they are sitting and someone gives them **** about it and then it gets ugly. if you are committed enough to follow the Jahovah faith, you are most lucky to follow one of its basic tenants. Which is respect for those who disagree with you.</P>


Putting that aside. Dez's comments are ignorant and foolish.</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 01:25 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</P>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any <U>political activity</U> of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</P>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </P>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</P>


no offense to your friends and witnesses out there but i think thats stupid

maybe its me but i dont see anything political with standing for taps. 3000 people died, more fighting current wars. God will not smight thee for showing some respect to the fallen.

im sick of people hiding behind religion, its a poison
</P>


War itself is a political act. And Jahovah's live their lives with great respect for both the living and the dead. Not just one day a year. Thats why they don't acknowledge dates. </P>

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 01:27 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.


thats why i hate religion...

i don't care what anybody says, it causes more harm than it does good

I must disagree with the sentiment that God is the only way to love
agreeed. and people use and manipulate religions for their personal gain.
hell were fighting wars right now because of religion.

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 01:31 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</p>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any political activity of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</p>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </p>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</p>




Thats fine, but the report is they were also being rude and disrespectful to those around them by talking loud.

If you don't wish to partake in it, that is your freedom. But to be disrespectful to others around you, thats a different story.

The irony is that he was being disrespectful to the process that gives him the freedom to sit or stand. Ignorance
</p>


I doubt it but I can't say obviously. I can imagine a scenario where they are sitting and someone gives them **** about it and then it gets ugly. if you are committed enough to follow the Jahovah faith, you are most lucky to follow one of its basic tenants. Which is respect for those who disagree with you.</p>


Putting that aside. Dez's comments are ignorant and foolish.</p>just like it was ignorant and foolish for that idiot not to stand. but its his religion.........

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 01:33 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.


thats why i hate religion...

i don't care what anybody says, it causes more harm than it does good

I must disagree with the sentiment that God is the only way to love
agreeed. and people use and manipulate religions for their personal gain.
hell were fighting wars right now because of religion.
</P>


Jahovahs are exactly the opposite of what you describe. they don't believe in war at all for any reason. They believe that religion should be completely detached from politics. So much so that they are forbidden to participate.</P>


If they are just sitting there, what have they done to manipulate or incite anything? And trust me, they sacrifice a lot and don't do any of it for personal gain. Its in violation of their faith. I don't believe a lot of what they believe but I respect anyone who lives a life thats about something greater than themselves.</P>

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 01:34 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</P>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any political activity of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</P>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </P>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</P>




Thats fine, but the report is they were also being rude and disrespectful to those around them by talking loud.

If you don't wish to partake in it, that is your freedom. But to be disrespectful to others around you, thats a different story.

The irony is that he was being disrespectful to the process that gives him the freedom to sit or stand. Ignorance
</P>


I doubt it but I can't say obviously. I can imagine a scenario where they are sitting and someone gives them **** about it and then it gets ugly. if you are committed enough to follow the Jahovah faith, you are most lucky to follow one of its basic tenants. Which is respect for those who disagree with you.</P>


Putting that aside. Dez's comments are ignorant and foolish.</P>


just like it was ignorant and foolish for that idiot not to stand. but its his religion.........
</P>


How is that hurting anyone? They have no malice for anyone who stands. Yet you seem to have it for those who don't.</P>

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 01:35 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</p>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any political activity of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</p>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </p>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</p>




Thats fine, but the report is they were also being rude and disrespectful to those around them by talking loud.

If you don't wish to partake in it, that is your freedom. But to be disrespectful to others around you, thats a different story.

The irony is that he was being disrespectful to the process that gives him the freedom to sit or stand. Ignorance
</p>


I doubt it but I can't say obviously. I can imagine a scenario where they are sitting and someone gives them **** about it and then it gets ugly. if you are committed enough to follow the Jahovah faith, you are most lucky to follow one of its basic tenants. Which is respect for those who disagree with you.</p>


Putting that aside. Dez's comments are ignorant and foolish.</p>

other people witnessed it. You do realize ur defending a guy that snuck in a tazer to the game right

just curious what Does Jahova say about whipping out a tazer on someone and sneaking it into a football game?

DavenIII
09-13-2011, 01:36 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.


thats why i hate religion...

i don't care what anybody says, it causes more harm than it does good

I must disagree with the sentiment that God is the only way to love
agreeed. and people use and manipulate religions for their personal gain.
hell were fighting wars right now because of religion.
</p>


Jahovahs are exactly the opposite of what you describe. they don't believe in war at all for any reason. They believe that religion should be completely detached from politics. So much so that they are forbidden to participate.</p>


If they are just sitting there, what have they done to manipulate or incite anything? And trust me, they sacrifice a lot and don't do any of it for personal gain. Its in violation of their faith. I don't believe a lot of what they believe but I respect anyone who lives a life thats about something greater than themselves.</p>

I don't understand how Morehead can be completely reasonable with something like this and make so much sense...but then be bat-**** insane lunatic like about Eli.

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 01:36 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.


thats why i hate religion...

i don't care what anybody says, it causes more harm than it does good

I must disagree with the sentiment that God is the only way to love
agreeed. and people use and manipulate religions for their personal gain.
hell were fighting wars right now because of religion.
</p>


Jahovahs are exactly the opposite of what you describe. they don't believe in war at all for any reason. They believe that religion should be completely detached from politics. So much so that they are forbidden to participate.</p>


If they are just sitting there, what have they done to manipulate or incite anything? And trust me, they sacrifice a lot and don't do any of it for personal gain. Its in violation of their faith. I don't believe a lot of what they believe but I respect anyone who lives a life thats about something greater than themselves.</p>

you do realize that this guy did whip out a tazer and taze the guy after provoking him - multiple eye wtinesses agreed

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 01:37 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</P>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any political activity of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</P>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </P>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</P>




Thats fine, but the report is they were also being rude and disrespectful to those around them by talking loud.

If you don't wish to partake in it, that is your freedom. But to be disrespectful to others around you, thats a different story.

The irony is that he was being disrespectful to the process that gives him the freedom to sit or stand. Ignorance
</P>


I doubt it but I can't say obviously. I can imagine a scenario where they are sitting and someone gives them **** about it and then it gets ugly. if you are committed enough to follow the Jahovah faith, you are most lucky to follow one of its basic tenants. Which is respect for those who disagree with you.</P>


Putting that aside. Dez's comments are ignorant and foolish.</P>




other people witnessed it. You do realize ur defending a guy that snuck in a tazer to the game right

just curious what Does Jahova say about whipping out a tazer on someone and sneaking it into a football game?
</P>


If they did then they are ****heads. But it has nothing to do with religion. So to answer your question...Yes. It says not to do it.</P>


I'm responding to Dez'z claim that its a disgrace not to stand and I tried to explain why they didn't.</P>


The rest of it is just a matter of personal failings.</P>

dezzzR
09-13-2011, 01:38 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.


thats why i hate religion...

i don't care what anybody says, it causes more harm than it does good

I must disagree with the sentiment that God is the only way to love
agreeed. and people use and manipulate religions for their personal gain.
hell were fighting wars right now because of religion.
</p>


Jahovahs are exactly the opposite of what you describe. they don't believe in war at all for any reason. They believe that religion should be completely detached from politics. So much so that they are forbidden to participate.</p>


If they are just sitting there, what have they done to manipulate or <u>incite</u> anything? And trust me, they sacrifice a lot and don't do any of it for personal gain. Its in violation of their faith. I don't believe a lot of what they believe but I respect anyone who lives a life thats about something greater than themselves.</p>the guy incited a fight man! come on already.

my point of view, at the end of the day, whatever your religion is, if you cant show ANY respect for the fallen and the people that defend your freedoms AND freedom of beliefs, get the **** out. if thats ignorant or foolish, ill live with it.

MattMeyerBud
09-13-2011, 01:38 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.
</p>


Jehova's Witnesses are forbidden by their religion to participate in any political activity of any kind. It is not a disgrace at all. They may feel strongly about the tradgedy on 9/11 but are forbidden to participate.</p>


The other stuff is a different matter. And who knows how anything happened, </p>


I have friends who are Jehova's Witnesses including a couple who are two of the biggest, whackiest Giants fans I have ever known. Great people. But I would imagine they would sit for taps. Not as an insult, but compelled by their faith.</p>




Thats fine, but the report is they were also being rude and disrespectful to those around them by talking loud.

If you don't wish to partake in it, that is your freedom. But to be disrespectful to others around you, thats a different story.

The irony is that he was being disrespectful to the process that gives him the freedom to sit or stand. Ignorance
</p>


I doubt it but I can't say obviously. I can imagine a scenario where they are sitting and someone gives them **** about it and then it gets ugly. if you are committed enough to follow the Jahovah faith, you are most lucky to follow one of its basic tenants. Which is respect for those who disagree with you.</p>


Putting that aside. Dez's comments are ignorant and foolish.</p>


just like it was ignorant and foolish for that idiot not to stand. but its his religion.........
</p>


How is that hurting anyone? They have no malice for anyone who stands. Yet you seem to have it for those who don't.</p>

i agree if its his religion, its his religion....

but i do understand what dezz is saying as well. To not show any respect and be disrespectful to the flag that lets u ahve that freedom to believe in who u want to believe in is different than just not partaking

but obviously this guy was loose in the head bringing a tazer to the game. If he felt that unsafe, he shouldn't of came.

Morehead State
09-13-2011, 01:39 PM
and what a disgrace to not stand during taps..........DISGRACE. i wish people like this would just leave our country.


thats why i hate religion...

i don't care what anybody says, it causes more harm than it does good

I must disagree with the sentiment that God is the only way to love
agreeed. and people use and manipulate religions for their personal gain.
hell were fighting wars right now because of religion.
</P>


Jahovahs are exactly the opposite of what you describe. they don't believe in war at all for any reason. They believe that religion should be completely detached from politics. So much so that they are forbidden to participate.</P>


If they are just sitting there, what have they done to manipulate or incite anything? And trust me, they sacrifice a lot and don't do any of it for personal gain. Its in violation of their faith. I don't believe a lot of what they believe but I respect anyone who lives a life thats about something greater than themselves.</P>




I don't understand how Morehead can be completely reasonable with something like this and make so much sense...but then be bat-**** insane lunatic like about Eli.
</P>


Don't even try to delve into the great mystery that is Morehead. Your head might explode.</P>