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MattMeyerBud
11-02-2011, 11:27 AM
anyone know what time Lando gets up lol, I had been working on some trade talk with him yesterday I'm anxious to start again today but I know he's like a buncha hours behind us out there in Mormon land lol.

2 hours behind and he actually usually gets up the same timew I get up which is like 6am, he may be busy today

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 11:28 AM
anyone know what time Lando gets up lol, I had been working on some trade talk with him yesterday I'm anxious to start again today but I know he's like a buncha hours behind us out there in Mormon land lol.
</P>


Don't discount the possibility that he is out actually living his life.</P>


The nerve!</P>

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 11:33 AM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</p>


Season is over.</p>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</p>hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 11:34 AM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 11:35 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div> <span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">Coughlin
says that he will push Barden and Amukamara this week b/c of injuries
at both positions. He wants to see both on the field on Sunday vs. the
Patriots.</span></h6>
whats this recent obsession with barden??? read he really struggles getting off the line when jammed

DavenIII
11-02-2011, 11:36 AM
anyone know what time Lando gets up lol, I had been working on some trade talk with him yesterday I'm anxious to start again today but I know he's like a buncha hours behind us out there in Mormon land lol.
</p>


Don't discount the possibility that he is out actually living his life.</p>


The nerve!</p>

Silly he's married with kids, you know his life is over :P

(Just Kidding!)

bigblue4417
11-02-2011, 11:38 AM
<div class="report">


Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) will not practice Wednesday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
According to coach Tom Coughlin, Bradshaw is
"swollen and sore." That's to be expected after he aggravated his
preexisting foot injury against the Dolphins last week. However,
Bradshaw was able to finish that game, so there's a good chance he'll be
able to gut it out at less than 100 percent against the Patriots
Sunday. We'll know more by the end of the week.
</div>
<div class="info">

<div class="clearboth"> </div>
<div class="source">Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter (http://twitter.com/#%21/MikeGarafolo/statuses/131749590151069696)</div><div class="date">
</div>
</div>




<div class="pb">

<div class="report">
</div>Coach Tom Coughlin said that Hakeem Nicks (hamstring) will not practice Wednesday and remains "day to day."
<div class="impact">

Nicks feels better and is telling Coughlin all the
right things, but the coach isn't making any declarations. "We'll see,"
said Coughlin. Nicks is almost certainly dealing with a Grade 1, or
minor, hamstring strain. We're tentatively expecting him to play against
the Patriots Sunday.
</div>
<div class="info">

<div class="clearboth"> </div>
<div class="source">Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter (http://twitter.com/#%21/MikeGarafolo/statuses/131749303235510273)</div><div class="date">
</div>
</div>

</div>

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 11:43 AM
<DIV class=report>


Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) will not practice Wednesday.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>According to coach Tom Coughlin, Bradshaw is "swollen and sore." That's to be expected after he aggravated his preexisting foot injury against the Dolphins last week. However, Bradshaw was able to finish that game, so there's a good chance he'll be able to gut it out at less than 100 percent against the Patriots Sunday. We'll know more by the end of the week. </DIV>
<DIV class=info>
<DIV class=clearboth></DIV>
<DIV class=source>Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter (http://twitter.com/#%21/MikeGarafolo/statuses/131749590151069696)</DIV>
<DIV class=date>
</DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=pb>


<DIV class=report></DIV>Coach Tom Coughlin said that Hakeem Nicks (hamstring) will not practice Wednesday and remains "day to day."
<DIV class=impact>
Nicks feels better and is telling Coughlin all the right things, but the coach isn't making any declarations. "We'll see," said Coughlin. Nicks is almost certainly dealing with a Grade 1, or minor, hamstring strain. We're tentatively expecting him to play against the Patriots Sunday. </DIV>
<DIV class=info>
<DIV class=clearboth></DIV>
<DIV class=source>Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter (http://twitter.com/#%21/MikeGarafolo/statuses/131749303235510273)</DIV>
<DIV class=date>
</DIV></DIV></DIV>


</P>


I'm sending another trade offer Landon.</P>

bigblue4417
11-02-2011, 11:44 AM
anyone know what time Lando gets up lol, I had been working on some trade talk with him yesterday I'm anxious to start again today but I know he's like a buncha hours behind us out there in Mormon land lol.
</p>


Don't discount the possibility that he is out actually living his life.</p>


The nerve!</p>

Silly he's married with kids, you know his life is over :P

(Just Kidding!)

LMAO

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 11:47 AM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</p>


Season is over.</p>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</p>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</p>


Oh my God, Dezz.</p>


Awards are popularity contests.</p>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</p>well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 11:49 AM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</P>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</P>


Still might.</P>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</P>

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 11:56 AM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</p>


Season is over.</p>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</p>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</p>


Oh my God, Dezz.</p>


Awards are popularity contests.</p>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</p>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</p>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</p>


Still might.</p>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <u>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</u></p>was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 11:58 AM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>wow......granderson and gardener were robbed


when do MVPs come out?

My money is on Miggy
im not sure but so is mine. and hell go out and get drunk, get in his hundred thousand dollar car, get pulled over and tell the officer how much he hates his life.

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 12:01 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</P>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</P>


Still might.</P>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <U>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</U></P>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</P>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</P>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</P>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</P>


</P>

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 12:05 PM
It'll be Granderson. If Jon Lester could actually get anybody out in September, it would have been Ellsbury.

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 12:08 PM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</p>


Season is over.</p>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</p>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</p>


Oh my God, Dezz.</p>


Awards are popularity contests.</p>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</p>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</p>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</p>


Still might.</p>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <u>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</u></p>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</p>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</p>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</p>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</p>


</p>yea teddy was robbed. i knew joe d was pretty mean. dont know if its true or not but in the movie 61 they were telling a story how casey told mantle "the old guy(joe) cant run like he used too" basically telling mantle to cover more ground. there was a pop up and joe called mantle off, mantle pulled up and ran right into a drainage ditch and his knee exploded. pretty messed up, but then again no way joe could of known that would happen. they made it sound dirty in the movie anyway.

MattMeyerBud
11-02-2011, 12:11 PM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</p>


Season is over.</p>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</p>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</p>


Oh my God, Dezz.</p>


Awards are popularity contests.</p>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</p>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</p>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</p>


Still might.</p>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <u>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</u></p>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</p>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</p>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</p>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</p>


</p>

thats just more homer bull**** from pappy

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

while obviously 405 is nasty, it had been done 16 times better before Williams did it. DiMaggio's record is insane

MattMeyerBud
11-02-2011, 12:17 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willite01.shtml

he also went on to win it 2 years after that and get voting for MVP in years he played 37(24th in voting) and 98 games (4th in voting)

and lets keep in mind that even tho pappy is much, much, MUCH older than us ([:)] ) that he also wasn't alive during this period so by his own logic he can't speak upon it anymore than we can

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 12:24 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/a-conversation-with-the-m_n_1067684.html?ref=travel&amp;icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl10%7Csec1_lnk3%7C109215
</p>


</p>

When I list the adventures documented in the ads to Goldsmith, asking
him to tell me if he'd emulate his character's behavior in each
situation, he says, "Yeah, I'd do that," a lot before annoyance creeps
into his voice.</p>



I inquire if he'd "live in the hills of the Serengeti for a summer
after being gifted a wife by local tribesmen," and his reaction is
telling: "Is she Catherine Deneuve beautiful or does she look like
Snooki?" he asks. He says if it was the former situation, he'd probably
do it.</p>

lmao
</p>

MattMeyerBud
11-02-2011, 12:25 PM
also its happened before that somebody who batted .400+ didn't get MVP

1912 - Ty Cobb batted .408 and finished 7th in voting (a year after winning MVP)
1911- Shoeless Joe Jackson batted .406 and finished 4th in voting (this was pre WS scandle)

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 12:33 PM
how long did it take you to get good at the guitar mh?

JPizzack
11-02-2011, 12:36 PM
yaaaao *****es!

sorry i been scarce....but, I'm off from work this week, AND I've been without power since saturday afternoon. it's bullsheeit but whatever...
I been at my moms during the day, and right now i'm at my buddy's place stealin his internetz.

I cant decide if its better or worse that I dont have power during my "staycation"...but either way it sucks lol

bigblue4417
11-02-2011, 12:39 PM
<div class="report">


Philip Rivers has been spotted wincing on film while throwing this season, according to an NFL personnel man.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Rivers' throwing motion has always been
unconventional, but this personnel man says it's "particularly
grotesque" this season. Whether Rivers is hurt or not, he's clearly
missing throws he normally makes and appears to be lacking zip on his
ball. He's on pace to throw just 16 touchdown passes this season after
throwing at least 28 in each of the last three years. Along the way,
he's crippled the fantasy value of Vincent Jackson.
</div>

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 12:49 PM
yaaaao *****es!

sorry i been scarce....but, I'm off from work this week, AND I've been without power since saturday afternoon. it's bullsheeit but whatever...
I been at my moms during the day, and right now i'm at my buddy's place stealin his internetz.

I cant decide if its better or worse that I dont have power during my "staycation"...but either way it sucks lol
i wonder what snookies doing without power......

MattMeyerBud
11-02-2011, 12:58 PM
yaaaao *****es!

sorry i been scarce....but, I'm off from work this week, AND I've been without power since saturday afternoon. it's bullsheeit but whatever...
I been at my moms during the day, and right now i'm at my buddy's place stealin his internetz.

I cant decide if its better or worse that I dont have power during my "staycation"...but either way it sucks lol
i wonder what snookies doing without power......


shes at pizz's house eating cold hotdogs off the floor while pizz tries to give her a bath

JPizzack
11-02-2011, 12:59 PM
yaaaao *****es!

sorry i been scarce....but, I'm off from work this week, AND I've been without power since saturday afternoon. it's bullsheeit but whatever...
I been at my moms during the day, and right now i'm at my buddy's place stealin his internetz.

I cant decide if its better or worse that I dont have power during my "staycation"...but either way it sucks lol
i wonder what snookies doing without power......

we can only hope she's killing herself.

that side of the river apparently didnt lose power....those *******s.

MattMeyerBud
11-02-2011, 01:00 PM
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/1c/01/6a/elephant-bath-time.jpg

JPizzack
11-02-2011, 01:01 PM
shes at pizz's house eating cold hotdogs off the floor while pizz tries to give her a bath


more like....golden shower....

ok I'm ending this conversation before it gets out of hand lol

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 01:03 PM
yaaaao *****es!

sorry i been scarce....but, I'm off from work this week, AND I've been without power since saturday afternoon. it's bullsheeit but whatever...
I been at my moms during the day, and right now i'm at my buddy's place stealin his internetz.

I cant decide if its better or worse that I dont have power during my "staycation"...but either way it sucks lol
i wonder what snookies doing without power......


shes at pizz's house eating cold hotdogs off the floor while pizz tries to give her a bath
lmfao hahahahahahaaa

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 01:05 PM
how long did it take you to get good at the guitar mh?
</P>


When it happens, I'll let you know.</P>

ny06
11-02-2011, 01:06 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


</P>


That was the year Joe D hit for the streak. </P>


</P>

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 01:08 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</P>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</P>


Still might.</P>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <U>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</U></P>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</P>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</P>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</P>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</P>


</P>




thats just more homer bull**** from pappy

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

while obviously 405 is nasty, it had been done 16 times better before Williams did it. DiMaggio's record is insane
</P>


Matt...It ws 17 years before i was born. What doI care who played for who?</P>


Can you imagine a scenario where a guy hits over .400 and also leads the league in HR's...and doesn't win the MVP?</P>


Thats why the MVP is a joke. Its just a popularity contest with sports writers. You guys care far too much about this nonsense.</P>


The Sox have 3 guys on the Golden Glove list and I'm telling you, it means nothing.</P>

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 01:10 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


</P>


That was the year Joe D hit for the streak. </P>


</P>


</P>


And as I said, during the same time frame as the streak, The kid hit for a higher average than DiMaggio.</P>

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 01:16 PM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</p>


Season is over.</p>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</p>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</p>


Oh my God, Dezz.</p>


Awards are popularity contests.</p>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</p>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</p>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</p>


Still might.</p>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <u>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</u></p>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</p>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</p>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</p>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</p>


</p>




thats just more homer bull**** from pappy

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

while obviously 405 is nasty, it had been done 16 times better before Williams did it. DiMaggio's record is insane
</p>


Matt...It ws 17 years before i was born. What doI care who played for who?</p>


Can you imagine a scenario where a guy hits over .400 and also leads the league in HR's...and doesn't win the MVP?</p>


Thats why the MVP is a joke. Its just a popularity contest with sports writers. You guys care far too much about this nonsense.</p>


The Sox have 3 guys on the Golden Glove list and I'm telling you, it means nothing.</p>like i said, an mvp season or an extra goldglove can be ones ticket into the hall, the way they pick the mvp is dumb, i agree, but meaningless? no way. come on mh, you would feel some kind of pride if ellsburry won the mvp, no?

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 01:22 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</P>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</P>


Still might.</P>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <U>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</U></P>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</P>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</P>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</P>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</P>


</P>




thats just more homer bull**** from pappy

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

while obviously 405 is nasty, it had been done 16 times better before Williams did it. DiMaggio's record is insane
</P>


Matt...It ws 17 years before i was born. What doI care who played for who?</P>


Can you imagine a scenario where a guy hits over .400 and also leads the league in HR's...and doesn't win the MVP?</P>


Thats why the MVP is a joke. Its just a popularity contest with sports writers. You guys care far too much about this nonsense.</P>


The Sox have 3 guys on the Golden Glove list and I'm telling you, it means nothing.</P>


like i said, an mvp season or an extra goldglove can be ones ticket into the hall, the way they pick the mvp is dumb, i agree, but meaningless? no way. come on mh, you would feel some kind of pride if ellsburry won the mvp, no?
</P>


I have tremendous pride in the way Ellsbury played this year, especially after the injuries from the year before.</P>


The fact that a bunch of sports writers give him the MVP or not doesn't change that one bit.</P>


And the Hall of Fame is voted on by a bunch of sports writers too. Its all a joke. Friggin Kirby Puckett got in on his first year of eligibility. Because he was a "friendly" guy.</P>

ny06
11-02-2011, 01:22 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


</P>


That was the year Joe D hit for the streak. </P>


</P>


</P>


And as I said, during the same time frame as the streak, The kid hit for a higher average than DiMaggio.</P>


</P>


Well here is the stats of the two players in '41</P>


Joe DiMaggio</P>



<TABLE class=boxed width="100%">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap>
<TABLE class="views-table cols-13" sizset="0" sizcache="7">
<THEAD sizset="0" sizcache="2">
<TR sizset="0" sizcache="2" jQuery1320254326726="139">
<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizset="2" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizset="3" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizset="4" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizset="5" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizset="6" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizset="7" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizset="8" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizset="9" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizset="10" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizset="11" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS </TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class="views-table cols-13" sizset="0" sizcache="7">
<TBODY jQuery1320254326726="141">
<TR class=even jQuery1320254326726="140">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">139 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">541 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">122 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">193 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">43 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">11 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">30 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">125 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">76 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">13 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.357 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.505 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.643 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.148 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


</P>


Ted Williams</P>



<TABLE class="views-table cols-13" sizset="0" sizcache="7">
<THEAD sizset="0" sizcache="2">
<TR sizset="0" sizcache="2" jQuery1320254326726="139">
<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizset="2" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizset="3" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizset="4" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizset="5" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizset="6" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizset="7" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizset="8" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizset="9" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizset="10" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizset="11" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></P>



<TABLE class="views-table cols-19" sizset="0" sizcache="7">
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd jQuery1320254425380="138">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">143 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">456 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">135 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">185 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">33 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">3 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">37 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">120 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">147 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">27 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.406 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.469 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


</P></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 01:25 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


</P>


That was the year Joe D hit for the streak. </P>


</P>


</P>


And as I said, during the same time frame as the streak, The kid hit for a higher average than DiMaggio.</P>


</P>


Well here is the stats of the two players in '41</P>


Joe DiMaggio</P>



<TABLE class=boxed width="100%">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap>
<TABLE class="views-table cols-13" sizcache="7" sizset="0">
<THEAD sizcache="2" sizset="0">
<TR sizcache="2" sizset="0" jQuery1320254326726="139">
<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizcache="4" sizset="2"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizcache="4" sizset="3"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizcache="4" sizset="5"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizcache="4" sizset="6"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizcache="4" sizset="7"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="8"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizcache="4" sizset="9"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizcache="4" sizset="10"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizcache="4" sizset="11"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS </TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class="views-table cols-13" sizcache="7" sizset="0">
<TBODY jQuery1320254326726="141">
<TR class=even jQuery1320254326726="140">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">139 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">541 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">122 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">193 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">43 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">11 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">30 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">125 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">76 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">13 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.357 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.505 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.643 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.148 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


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Ted Williams</P>



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<TR sizcache="2" sizset="0" jQuery1320254326726="139">
<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizcache="4" sizset="2"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizcache="4" sizset="3"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizcache="4" sizset="5"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizcache="4" sizset="6"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizcache="4" sizset="7"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="8"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizcache="4" sizset="9"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizcache="4" sizset="10"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizcache="4" sizset="11"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></P>



<TABLE class="views-table cols-19" sizcache="7" sizset="0">
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd jQuery1320254425380="138">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">143 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">456 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">135 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">185 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">33 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">3 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">37 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">120 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">147 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">27 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.406 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.469 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


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I think you see my point. Check The Kid's on base %. Had 20/15 vision. Great eye for the strike zone.</P>

ny06
11-02-2011, 01:27 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


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wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


</P>


That was the year Joe D hit for the streak. </P>


</P>


</P>


And as I said, during the same time frame as the streak, The kid hit for a higher average than DiMaggio.</P>


</P>


Well here is the stats of the two players in '41</P>


Joe DiMaggio</P>



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<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizset="2" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizset="3" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizset="4" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizset="5" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizset="6" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizset="7" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizset="8" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizset="9" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizset="10" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizset="11" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS </TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class="views-table cols-13" sizset="0" sizcache="7">
<TBODY jQuery1320254326726="141">
<TR class=even jQuery1320254326726="140">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">139 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">541 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">122 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">193 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">43 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">11 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">30 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">125 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">76 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">13 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.357 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.505 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.643 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.148 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


</P>


Ted Williams</P>



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<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizset="2" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizset="3" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizset="4" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizset="5" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizset="6" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizset="7" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizset="8" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizset="9" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizset="10" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizset="11" sizcache="4"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></P>



<TABLE class="views-table cols-19" sizset="0" sizcache="7">
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd jQuery1320254425380="138">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">143 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">456 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">135 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">185 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">33 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">3 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">37 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">120 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">147 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">27 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.406 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.469 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


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I think you see my point. Check The Kid's on base %. Had 20/15 vision. Great eye for the strike zone.</P>


</P>


It's hard to argue against you. </P>


I guess the voters wanted to give it to Joe D for the hit streak. </P>


And it helps that he is Joe DiMaggio. </P>


The two best hitters in baseball history I feel are Ted Williams and Joe Jackson. </P>

DavenIII
11-02-2011, 01:41 PM
Morehead I sent you a PM...

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 01:47 PM
Morehead I sent you a PM...
</P>


Replied.</P>

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 01:48 PM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</p>


Season is over.</p>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</p>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</p>


Oh my God, Dezz.</p>


Awards are popularity contests.</p>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</p>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</p>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</p>


Still might.</p>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <u>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</u></p>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</p>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</p>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</p>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</p>


</p>




thats just more homer bull**** from pappy

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

while obviously 405 is nasty, it had been done 16 times better before Williams did it. DiMaggio's record is insane
</p>


Matt...It ws 17 years before i was born. What doI care who played for who?</p>


Can you imagine a scenario where a guy hits over .400 and also leads the league in HR's...and doesn't win the MVP?</p>


Thats why the MVP is a joke. Its just a popularity contest with sports writers. You guys care far too much about this nonsense.</p>


The Sox have 3 guys on the Golden Glove list and I'm telling you, it means nothing.</p>


like i said, an mvp season or an extra goldglove can be ones ticket into the hall, the way they pick the mvp is dumb, i agree, but meaningless? no way. come on mh, you would feel some kind of pride if ellsburry won the mvp, no?
</p>


I have tremendous pride in the way Ellsbury played this year, especially after the injuries from the year before.</p>


The fact that a bunch of sports writers give him the MVP or not doesn't change that one bit.</p>


And the Hall of Fame is voted on by a bunch of sports writers too. Its all a joke. Friggin Kirby Puckett got in on his first year of eligibility. Because he was a "friendly" guy.</p>alright and if ellsburry wins, isnt it good to know that the sports writers have acknowledged him also? i think youre under rating the mvp a bit

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 01:54 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</P>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</P>


Still might.</P>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <U>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</U></P>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</P>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</P>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</P>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</P>


</P>




thats just more homer bull**** from pappy

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

while obviously 405 is nasty, it had been done 16 times better before Williams did it. DiMaggio's record is insane
</P>


Matt...It ws 17 years before i was born. What doI care who played for who?</P>


Can you imagine a scenario where a guy hits over .400 and also leads the league in HR's...and doesn't win the MVP?</P>


Thats why the MVP is a joke. Its just a popularity contest with sports writers. You guys care far too much about this nonsense.</P>


The Sox have 3 guys on the Golden Glove list and I'm telling you, it means nothing.</P>


like i said, an mvp season or an extra goldglove can be ones ticket into the hall, the way they pick the mvp is dumb, i agree, but meaningless? no way. come on mh, you would feel some kind of pride if ellsburry won the mvp, no?
</P>


I have tremendous pride in the way Ellsbury played this year, especially after the injuries from the year before.</P>


The fact that a bunch of sports writers give him the MVP or not doesn't change that one bit.</P>


And the Hall of Fame is voted on by a bunch of sports writers too. Its all a joke. Friggin Kirby Puckett got in on his first year of eligibility. Because he was a "friendly" guy.</P>


alright and if ellsburry wins, isnt it good to know that the sports writers have acknowledged him also? i think youre under rating the mvp a bit
</P>


A bunch of jock sniffing dopes, most of whom couldn't hit a ball of a tee if they were given three tries?</P>


We all know what everybody did on the field this season. What a bunch of self important, agendized dopes think doesn't change it.</P>

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 02:00 PM
lmao justin biebers being sued for knocking some 20 year old up.

MattMeyerBud
11-02-2011, 02:18 PM
<h5><u>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Matt Wieters, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Erick Aybar, Angels</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Alex Gordon, Royals</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Nick Markakis, Orioles</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<div class="table_content"></div>
<div class="table_content">
<h5><u>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</u></h5>
<div class="table_content">
<table summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won." cellspacing="0">
<caption></caption>
<colgroup>
<col id="pos_col">
<col id="player_col">
<col id="no_col" class="last"></colgroup>
<thead>
<tr>
<th scope="col">POS.</th>
<th scope="col">PLAYER</th>
<th scope="col">NO.</th></tr></thead>
<tbody>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">C</td>
<td>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</td>
<td class="last">4</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">1B</td>
<td>Joey Votto, Reds</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">2B</td>
<td>Brandon Phillips, Reds</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">3B</td>
<td>Placido Polanco, Phillies</td>
<td class="last">3</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">SS</td>
<td>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">LF</td>
<td>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">CF</td>
<td>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">2</td></tr>
<tr>
<td class="first">RF</td>
<td>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr>
<tr class="odd">
<td class="first">P</td>
<td>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</td>
<td class="last">1</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>


</p>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</p>


Season is over.</p>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</p>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</p>


Oh my God, Dezz.</p>


Awards are popularity contests.</p>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</p>


well as a fan, i like them, i like know the yanks really do have two goldglovers in center and left. ted williams was a redsock. of course no one voted for him. do you really think elsburry deserves that award? granderson should of won the gold glove for those 2 catches in the playoffs alone. AND he was making plays like that all season, same goes for gadnaaaa. HOG WASH!!
</p>


Ellsbury was incredible in center this season. If the Sox had won the wild card he would be the MVP of the league.</p>


Still might.</p>


And Ted Williams was the greatest hitter that ever lived. <u>The media didn't like him because he was a mean SOB.</u></p>


was he really? well, he was a marine. did i tell you i went into steiner sports over the summer and i saw this beautiful painting with him climbing into his ****pit with a slight grin. and around it had all the other planes he piloted. it was really nice and autographed, i think it was like 750 bucks
</p>


Well lets say he hated the media and the feeling was mutual.</p>


The guy hit .406 for God's sake. Plus he also let the league in HR's that year. The "excuse" the voters gave was the 56 game hit streak for DiMaggio. Of course during the same period of time as those 56 games, Williams hit for a higher average than Joe D.</p>


BTW...Joe D was a mean SOB too but he hid it better. The kid didn't care what people thought of him. Thats why he was so great in my eyes.</p>


</p>




thats just more homer bull**** from pappy

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml

while obviously 405 is nasty, it had been done 16 times better before Williams did it. DiMaggio's record is insane
</p>


Matt...It ws 17 years before i was born. What doI care who played for who?</p>


Can you imagine a scenario where a guy hits over .400 and also leads the league in HR's...and doesn't win the MVP?</p>


Thats why the MVP is a joke. Its just a popularity contest with sports writers. You guys care far too much about this nonsense.</p>


The Sox have 3 guys on the Golden Glove list and I'm telling you, it means nothing.</p>

I dont' care too much about it, but dezz is right crap like that counts for people making the hall..

and.400 is sick no matter how u dice it but it just wasn't as uncommon then as it was now. Joey D's streak is still alive and well. Looking back they made the right choice

JPizzack
11-02-2011, 02:39 PM
lmao justin biebers being sued for knocking some 20 year old up.

you can get sued for knocking someone up now? how exactly would that case go...?

dezzzR
11-02-2011, 02:40 PM
lmao justin biebers being sued for knocking some 20 year old up.

you can get sued for knocking someone up now? how exactly would that case go...?
im not sure how its working i just read the headline.

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 03:05 PM
Stop toying with me Landon. I was just about to accept the trade.

bigblue4417
11-02-2011, 04:47 PM
<div class="report">


Darren McFadden exited the Raiders' facility in a protective boot and on crutches after missing Wednesday's practice.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
At this point, neither the Oakland Tribune nor
the San Francisco Chronicle expects McFadden to play in Week 9. Trib
beat reporter Steve Corkran suggests that the Raiders will target their
Week 10 Thursday Night Football matchup with San Diego for McFadden's
return. It's a division game, and the organization believes it can
defeat Tim Tebow's Broncos without Run DMC.
</div>

bigblue4417
11-02-2011, 04:50 PM
Stop toying with me Landon. I was just about to accept the trade.
Sorry, let me rehash things.

patsrule666
11-02-2011, 05:54 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>*</DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


</P>


wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
</P>


Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


</P>


That was the year Joe D hit for the streak. </P>


*</P>


</P>


And as I said, during the same time frame as the streak, The kid hit for a higher average than DiMaggio.</P>


</P>


Well here is the stats of the two players in '41</P>


Joe DiMaggio</P>



<TABLE class=boxed width="100%">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD class=datacolR noWrap>
<TABLE class="views-table cols-13" sizcache="7" sizset="0">
<THEAD sizcache="2" sizset="0">
<TR sizcache="2" sizset="0" jQuery1320254326726="139">
<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizcache="4" sizset="2"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizcache="4" sizset="3"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizcache="4" sizset="5"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizcache="4" sizset="6"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizcache="4" sizset="7"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="8"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizcache="4" sizset="9"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizcache="4" sizset="10"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizcache="4" sizset="11"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS </TH></TR></THEAD>
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<TBODY jQuery1320254326726="141">
<TR class=even jQuery1320254326726="140">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">139 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">541 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">122 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">193 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">43 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">11 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">30 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">125 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">76 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">13 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.357 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.505 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.643 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.148 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


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Ted Williams</P>



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<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizcache="4" sizset="2"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizcache="4" sizset="3"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizcache="4" sizset="5"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizcache="4" sizset="6"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizcache="4" sizset="7"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="8"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizcache="4" sizset="9"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizcache="4" sizset="10"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizcache="4" sizset="11"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></P>



<TABLE class="views-table cols-19" sizcache="7" sizset="0">
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<TR class=odd jQuery1320254425380="138">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">143 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">456 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">135 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">185 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">33 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">3 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">37 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">120 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">147 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">27 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.406 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.469 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


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I think you see my point.* Check The Kid's on base %.* Had 20/15 vision.* Great eye for the strike zone.</P>I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then..

You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:)

I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right....

Morehead State
11-02-2011, 06:50 PM
<H5><U>AL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The American League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Matt Wieters, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Adrian Beltre, Rangers</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Erick Aybar, Angels</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Alex Gordon, Royals</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Nick Markakis, Orioles</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Mark Buehrle, White Sox</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>
<H5><U>NL GOLD GLOVE WINNERS</U></H5>
<DIV class=table_content>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="The National League winners of the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards, with the number of Gold Gloves each has won.">
<CAPTION></CAPTION>
<COLGROUP>
<COL id=pos_col>
<COL id=player_col>
<COL id=no_col class=last></COLGROUP>
<THEAD>
<TR>
<TH scope=col>POS.</TH>
<TH scope=col>PLAYER</TH>
<TH scope=col>NO.</TH></TR></THEAD>
<TBODY>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>C</TD>
<TD>Yadier Molina, Cardinals</TD>
<TD class=last>4</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>1B</TD>
<TD>Joey Votto, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>2B</TD>
<TD>Brandon Phillips, Reds</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>3B</TD>
<TD>Placido Polanco, Phillies</TD>
<TD class=last>3</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>SS</TD>
<TD>Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>LF</TD>
<TD>Gerardo Parra, D-backs</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>CF</TD>
<TD>Matt Kemp, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>2</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=first>RF</TD>
<TD>Andre Ethier, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR>
<TR class=odd>
<TD class=first>P</TD>
<TD>Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers</TD>
<TD class=last>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></DIV>


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wow......granderson and gardener were robbed
</P>


Season is over.</P>


Awards mean nothing anyway.</P>


hogwash. awards help some players get into the hall.
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Oh my God, Dezz.</P>


Awards are popularity contests.</P>


Ted Williams hit .406 and didn't win the MVP.</P>


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That was the year Joe D hit for the streak. </P>


</P>


</P>


And as I said, during the same time frame as the streak, The kid hit for a higher average than DiMaggio.</P>


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Well here is the stats of the two players in '41</P>


Joe DiMaggio</P>



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<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizcache="4" sizset="2"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizcache="4" sizset="3"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizcache="4" sizset="5"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizcache="4" sizset="6"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizcache="4" sizset="7"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="8"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizcache="4" sizset="9"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizcache="4" sizset="10"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizcache="4" sizset="11"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS </TH></TR></THEAD>
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<TBODY jQuery1320254326726="141">
<TR class=even jQuery1320254326726="140">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">139 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">541 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">122 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">193 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">43 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">11 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">30 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">125 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">76 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">13 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.357 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.505 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.643 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.148 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


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Ted Williams</P>



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<TH class="views-field views-field-games" sizcache="4" sizset="2"><FONT color=#454545>G</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=games&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-at-bats" sizcache="4" sizset="3"><FONT color=#454545>AB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=at_bats&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="4"><FONT color=#454545>R</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-hits" sizcache="4" sizset="5"><FONT color=#454545>H</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=hits&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-doubles" sizcache="4" sizset="6"><FONT color=#454545>2B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=doubles&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-triples" sizcache="4" sizset="7"><FONT color=#454545>3B</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=triples&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-home-runs" sizcache="4" sizset="8"><FONT color=#454545>HR</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=home_runs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in" sizcache="4" sizset="9"><FONT color=#454545>RBI</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=runs_batted_in&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls" sizcache="4" sizset="10"><FONT color=#454545>BB</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=base_on_balls&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-strike-outs" sizcache="4" sizset="11"><FONT color=#454545>SO</FONT> (http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/dimagjo01?order=strike_outs&amp;sort=asc) </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-batting-average">AVG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">OBP </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">SLG </TH>
<TH class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">OPS</TH></TR></THEAD>
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<TBODY>
<TR class=odd jQuery1320254425380="138">
<TD class="views-field views-field-games">143 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-at-bats">456 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs">135 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-hits">185 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-doubles">33 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-triples">3 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-home-runs">37 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-runs-batted-in">120 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-base-on-balls">147 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-strike-outs">27 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-batting-average">.406 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-on-base-percentage">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-slugging-average">.735 </TD>
<TD class="views-field views-field-ops-slug">1.469 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


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I think you see my point. Check The Kid's on base %. Had 20/15 vision. Great eye for the strike zone.</P>


I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right....</P>


First........How about that Pats, the guy had great respect for Joe D.Thats a great insight and a great story. Let me be clear. I was in no way criticizing The Kid. I just meant that he hated the media. He was a truly great man, and a true war hero. A fighter pilot in both WW II and the Korean war.</P>


Second.......To change the subject, my football team has a heck of a lot better chanceof beating your teamthis week than my FF team does against yours.</P>


Third.........You are my favorite Patriots fan.</P>


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byron
11-02-2011, 07:06 PM
<DIV class=table_content><U><FONT size=2></FONT></U></DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right.... great story Pats</DIV>

patsrule666
11-02-2011, 08:56 PM
Ha, somehow i see that as a sort of your my favorite *******...

I like our chances on both sides this weekend although i do not take anyone lightly in this FF league and i consider your team one of the better ones.

Yeah, i have read quite a bit about his relationship with the "knights of the keyboard".
His daughter Claudia really turned out to be a great person herself. It was'nt a shot at your view on him at all. In fact, i am actually very impressed with your knowledge on the man. His on base percentage is what really impressed with...

patsrule666
11-02-2011, 08:59 PM
<DIV class=table_content><U><FONT size=2></FONT></U>*</DIV>
<DIV class=table_content>I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right.... great story Pats</DIV> Actually Byron, i have to be honest, it was not one of my better moments. The reason the pole was broken is because it snapped just as i was landing one of the biggest brook trout i ever latched onto. That one doesnt count on my hall of fame resume.

byron
11-02-2011, 09:30 PM
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<DIV class=table_content>I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right.... great story Pats</DIV>


Actually Byron, i have to be honest, it was not one of my better moments. The reason the pole was broken is because it snapped just as i was landing one of the biggest brook trout i ever latched onto. That one doesn't count on my hall of fame resume.</P>


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ha that sucks Pats I was into tournamentBass fishing up here for while years ago...Any how we were pre fishing Cobbosseecontee Lake aday before a tournament I caught this small mouth andfrom myexperienceat the timeI guessedit was well over 5lbs state record is 8lbs.. It was a rare catch andI let him go not thinking I might not ever catch another like it...kicked myself many times over the yearsfor that one.. ah well it a great memory as your story is.....that fish came out of the water grabing bait on his way it was unreal...</P>


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ps..I screwed the post up some how</P>

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 09:28 AM
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<div class="table_content">I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right.... great story Pats</div>


Actually Byron, i have to be honest, it was not one of my better moments. The reason the pole was broken is because it snapped just as i was landing one of the biggest brook trout i ever latched onto. That one doesn't count on my hall of fame resume.</p>


</p>


ha that sucks Pats I was into tournamentBass fishing up here for while years ago...Any how we were pre fishing Cobbosseecontee Lake aday before a tournament I caught this small mouth andfrom myexperienceat the timeI guessedit was well over 5lbs state record is 8lbs.. It was a rare catch andI let him go not thinking I might not ever catch another like it...kicked myself many times over the yearsfor that one.. ah well it a great memory as your story is.....that fish came out of the water grabing bait on his way it was unreal...</p>


</p>


ps..I screwed the post up some how</p>Awesome fish Story B. Tournament bass? WOW! I have been bass fishing since I was a mere 7 yr old kid. Average catch 2-3 lb bass that give a nice fight. I have never got the big one. My son got a 5 lber about 2 yrs ago in this private lake. I was fishing this reservoir about 20 years ago and this brown trout grabbed my bait and flew out of the water-when he went back in the splash was HUGE. I have no idea how big, but from what I saw it was a contender. lol. Great times.

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 09:29 AM
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<div class="table_content">I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right.... great story Pats</div>


Actually Byron, i have to be honest, it was not one of my better moments. The reason the pole was broken is because it snapped just as i was landing one of the biggest brook trout i ever latched onto. That one doesn't count on my hall of fame resume.</p>


</p>


ha that sucks Pats I was into tournamentBass fishing up here for while years ago...Any how we were pre fishing Cobbosseecontee Lake aday before a tournament I caught this small mouth andfrom myexperienceat the timeI guessedit was well over 5lbs state record is 8lbs.. It was a rare catch andI let him go not thinking I might not ever catch another like it...kicked myself many times over the yearsfor that one.. ah well it a great memory as your story is.....that fish came out of the water grabing bait on his way it was unreal...</p>


</p>


ps..I screwed the post up some how</p>Awesome fish Story B. Tournament bass? WOW! I have been bass fishing since I was a mere 7 yr old kid. Average catch 2-3 lb bass that give a nice fight. I have never got the big one. My son got a 5 lber about 2 yrs ago in this private lake. I was fishing this reservoir about 20 years ago and this brown trout grabbed my bait and flew out of the water-when he went back in the splash was HUGE. I have no idea how big, but from what I saw it was a contender. lol. Great times.
Oh yeah--I lost the brownie off my line as soon as he hit the water.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 09:35 AM
Stop toying with me Landon. I was just about to accept the trade.

taking that trade down was the best thing that could of happened for you

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 09:41 AM
I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then..

You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:)

I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right....

i think i speak for everyone when i say wow what a ****in story lo

and that we're sorry we're going to have to ruin your feel good story this week when we stomp you out... again [;)]

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 09:44 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 09:44 AM
I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then..

You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:)

I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right....

i think i speak for everyone when i say wow what a ****in story lo

and that we're sorry we're going to have to ruin your feel good story this week when we stomp you out... again [;)]
Wonder if Strahan is going to be on hand for this one at Gillette Stadium?

byron
11-03-2011, 09:54 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
what did Sharick do? well I read they are going to baby Beanie the rest of the season Idk....draft analyzer says Landon should refuse both trades</P>


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the vick trade?</P>


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Morehead State
11-03-2011, 09:55 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</P>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</P>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</P>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</P>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</P>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</P>

DavenIII
11-03-2011, 09:56 AM
daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.


I'm not sure I like it, I think he's getting the better endof the deal, but as long as I have a decent team this week to face you it's worth it for me lol.

byron
11-03-2011, 10:04 AM
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<DIV class=table_content>I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right.... great story Pats</DIV>


Actually Byron, i have to be honest, it was not one of my better moments. The reason the pole was broken is because it snapped just as i was landing one of the biggest brook trout i ever latched onto. That one doesn't count on my hall of fame resume.</P>


</P>


ha that sucks Pats I was into tournamentBass fishing up here for while years ago...Any how we were pre fishing Cobbosseecontee Lake aday before a tournament I caught this small mouth andfrom myexperienceat the timeI guessedit was well over 5lbs state record is 8lbs.. It was a rare catch andI let him go not thinking I might not ever catch another like it...kicked myself many times over the yearsfor that one.. ah well it a great memory as your story is.....that fish came out of the water grabing bait on his way it was unreal...</P>


</P>


ps..I screwed the post up some how</P>


Awesome fish Story B. Tournament bass? WOW! I have been bass fishing since I was a mere 7 yr old kid. Average catch 2-3 lb bass that give a nice fight. I have never got the big one. My son got a 5 lber about 2 yrs ago in this private lake. I was fishing this reservoir about 20 years ago and this brown trout grabbed my bait and flew out of the water-when he went back in the splash was HUGE. I have no idea how big, but from what I saw it was a contender. lol. Great times.
Oh yeah--I lost the brownie off my line as soon as he hit the water.
</P>


</P>


Love fishing browns through the ice something about it biggest one I have seen come up a hole was 5lbs big fish...friend of mine catch it...I got a large mouth basson the wall here 7lbs 2oz he got me a trophy biggest fish of the day.. I have seen a9 + come out of Cobbossee pretty rare fish up here average life span 4 or 5 years they protect the old timers now....catch limits and such..</P>


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something ain't right with this post screwed up again also lt just noticed a pm form ya I replied</P>

byron
11-03-2011, 10:34 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</P>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</P>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</P>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</P>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</P>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</P>I'd addand if it hurts any others so be it....name of the game is to win at all costs ...any one of these players could go downany time things have a way of balancing out....not sure Matt complaining about the trade but rathersomething to do with sumbags...lol

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 10:38 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
what did Sharick do? well I read they are going to baby Beanie the rest of the season Idk....draft analyzer says Landon should refuse both trades</p>


</p>


the vick trade?</p>


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yea the vick trade

analyzer isn't taking into consideration that he has Vick so he can lose stafford for Flacco

Like I said, Beanie and Jennings COULD come back and hurt Lando if Beanie goes hard and healthy. But odds are its doubtful and for a couple of weeks this year it will seem like the trade was AP 4 Jennings

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 10:40 AM
daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.


I'm not sure I like it, I think he's getting the better endof the deal, but as long as I have a decent team this week to face you it's worth it for me lol.


if beanie stays healthy, i think u win the deal

byron
11-03-2011, 10:49 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
what did Sharick do? well I read they are going to baby Beanie the rest of the season Idk....draft analyzer says Landon should refuse both trades</P>


</P>


the vick trade?</P>


</P>

yea the vick trade

analyzer isn't taking into consideration that he has Vick so he can lose stafford for Flacco

Like I said, Beanie and Jennings COULD come back and hurt Lando if Beanie goes hard and healthy. But odds are its doubtful and for a couple of weeks this year it will seem like the trade was AP 4 Jennings
Oh I know what your saying... and I agree and I think Beanie isgoing to struggle the rest of the year....gut feeling and from somecomments Wells has made pertaining to his knee...time will tell....

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 10:50 AM
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<div class="table_content">I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right.... great story Pats</div>


Actually Byron, i have to be honest, it was not one of my better moments. The reason the pole was broken is because it snapped just as i was landing one of the biggest brook trout i ever latched onto. That one doesn't count on my hall of fame resume.</p>


</p>


ha that sucks Pats I was into tournamentBass fishing up here for while years ago...Any how we were pre fishing Cobbosseecontee Lake aday before a tournament I caught this small mouth andfrom myexperienceat the timeI guessedit was well over 5lbs state record is 8lbs.. It was a rare catch andI let him go not thinking I might not ever catch another like it...kicked myself many times over the yearsfor that one.. ah well it a great memory as your story is.....that fish came out of the water grabing bait on his way it was unreal...</p>


</p>


ps..I screwed the post up some how</p>


Awesome fish Story B. Tournament bass? WOW! I have been bass fishing since I was a mere 7 yr old kid. Average catch 2-3 lb bass that give a nice fight. I have never got the big one. My son got a 5 lber about 2 yrs ago in this private lake. I was fishing this reservoir about 20 years ago and this brown trout grabbed my bait and flew out of the water-when he went back in the splash was HUGE. I have no idea how big, but from what I saw it was a contender. lol. Great times.
Oh yeah--I lost the brownie off my line as soon as he hit the water.
</p>


</p>


Love fishing browns through the ice something about it biggest one I have seen come up a hole was 5lbs big fish...friend of mine catch it...I got a large mouth basson the wall here 7lbs 2oz he got me a trophy biggest fish of the day.. I have seen a9 + come out of Cobbossee pretty rare fish up here average life span 4 or 5 years they protect the old timers now....catch limits and such..</p>


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something ain't right with this post screwed up again also lt just noticed a pm form ya I replied</p>K-I will check pm-7.2 largemouth is a beaut....did you mount it?

byron
11-03-2011, 10:53 AM
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<DIV class=table_content>I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no bigger fan of Mr. Williams than myself, and it has nothing to do with baseball whatsoever..It has everything to do with a trout stream in New Brunswick and a very nice man that lent me a fishing pole because i had just broken my own...I had no clue that the game of baseball even existed back then.. You would have gotten along great with him MH. The man just loved to argue about everything...lol. I guess looking back that we were 50/50 with our arguements...He was right in that the game of baseball is better than the game of hockey, but i KNOW that i was and still am the better trout fisherman..:) I am not upset in the least that they did not give him the MVP that year and from what i could tell niether was he. Mr. Williams told me something one day that i will never ever forget- He said that if Joe Dimaggio would have been a left handed hitter that he would have broke many of Babe Ruth's hitting records except for career home runs. Also, that there would be no question in anyone's mind that he was the greatest Yankee player ever because of the short porch in right.... great story Pats</DIV>


Actually Byron, i have to be honest, it was not one of my better moments. The reason the pole was broken is because it snapped just as i was landing one of the biggest brook trout i ever latched onto. That one doesn't count on my hall of fame resume.</P>


</P>


ha that sucks Pats I was into tournamentBass fishing up here for while years ago...Any how we were pre fishing Cobbosseecontee Lake aday before a tournament I caught this small mouth andfrom myexperienceat the timeI guessedit was well over 5lbs state record is 8lbs.. It was a rare catch andI let him go not thinking I might not ever catch another like it...kicked myself many times over the yearsfor that one.. ah well it a great memory as your story is.....that fish came out of the water grabing bait on his way it was unreal...</P>


</P>


ps..I screwed the post up some how</P>


Awesome fish Story B. Tournament bass? WOW! I have been bass fishing since I was a mere 7 yr old kid. Average catch 2-3 lb bass that give a nice fight. I have never got the big one. My son got a 5 lber about 2 yrs ago in this private lake. I was fishing this reservoir about 20 years ago and this brown trout grabbed my bait and flew out of the water-when he went back in the splash was HUGE. I have no idea how big, but from what I saw it was a contender. lol. Great times.
Oh yeah--I lost the brownie off my line as soon as he hit the water.
</P>


</P>


Love fishing browns through the ice something about it biggest one I have seen come up a hole was 5lbs big fish...friend of mine catch it...I got a large mouth bass<FONT color=#0000ff>on the wall</FONT> here 7lbs 2oz he got me a trophy biggest fish of the day.. I have seen a9 + come out of Cobbossee pretty rare fish up here average life span 4 or 5 years they protect the old timers now....catch limits and such..</P>


</P>


something ain't right with this post screwed up again also lt just noticed a pm form ya I replied</P>


K-I will check pm-7.2 largemouth is a beaut....did you mount it?
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</P>


</P>


I tryed but she wouldn't hold still.....lol</P>

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 10:54 AM
daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.


I'm not sure I like it, I think he's getting the better endof the deal, but as long as I have a decent team this week to face you it's worth it for me lol.


if beanie stays healthy, i think u win the deal
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He did well in getting Jennings. I offered Benson and Stevie Johnson. Jennings and Beanie may be better. But Beanie's health is the key. </P>

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 11:02 AM
all this fishing talk is making me want to go buy three 30 racks and go camping

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:07 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</p>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</p>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</p>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</p>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</p>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</p>
i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 11:10 AM
all this fishing talk is making me want to go buy three 30 racks and go camping
I think you meant 30 Packs lol---Where the hell is JP this week...he's been away a while, is he alright?

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 11:13 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</P>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</P>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</P>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</P>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</P>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</P>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</P>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</P>


Jimmy's been great but I'm betting that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</P>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</P>


And I agree with you, FTU <U>will </U>be in the finals.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:13 AM
all this fishing talk is making me want to go buy three 30 racks and go camping
I think you meant 30 Packs lol---Where the hell is JP this week...he's been away a while, is he alright?


he peeked in yesterday

he has no power and hes on vacation this week

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:15 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</p>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</p>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</p>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</p>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</p>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</p>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</p>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</p>


Jimmy's been great but I'm better that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</p>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</p>


And I agree with you, FTU <u>will </u>be in the finals.</p>

i dont think the loss of graham to gain Stafford improves your team as greatly as u do. Definitly not enough to load up a top team as well

I think it was bad moves all around

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 11:16 AM
all this fishing talk is making me want to go buy three 30 racks and go camping
I think you meant 30 Packs lol---Where the hell is JP this week...he's been away a while, is he alright?
hes sleeping over snookies until he gets power back.

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 11:16 AM
all this fishing talk is making me want to go buy three 30 racks and go camping
I think you meant 30 Packs lol---Where the hell is JP this week...he's been away a while, is he alright?


he peeked in yesterday

he has no power and hes on vacation this week
ok -good

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:17 AM
i think that this Graham kid is Witten in his prime

hes having an Antonio Gates type year

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 11:18 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</p>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</p>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</p>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</p>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</p>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</p>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</p>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</p>


Jimmy's been great but I'm betting that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</p>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</p>


And I agree with you, FTU <u>will </u>be in the finals.</p>rivers just had a horrible game against kc and has been subpar all year, what makes you think gb will be a shoot out?

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:19 AM
all this fishing talk is making me want to go buy three 30 racks and go camping
I think you meant 30 Packs lol---Where the hell is JP this week...he's been away a while, is he alright?
hes sleeping over snookies until he gets power back.


hes sleeping in one of Snooki's fat rolls to keep warm since he has no heat

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 11:20 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</P>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</P>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</P>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</P>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</P>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</P>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</P>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</P>


Jimmy's been great but I'm better that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</P>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</P>


And I agree with you, FTU <U>will </U>be in the finals.</P>




i dont think the loss of graham to gain Stafford improves your team as greatly as u do. Definitly not enough to load up a top team as well

I think it was bad moves all around
</P>


The trade was essentially Graham for Stafford. The rest is window dressing. I would submit that the difference between Rivers and Stafford isfar greater than Graham and Gonzo. Gonzo is a huge target for Ryan in the red zone. And I can now trade Rivers if he has a big game this week to someone who needs a QB. Because I still need a WR.</P>

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 11:22 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</P>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</P>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</P>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</P>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</P>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</P>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</P>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</P>


Jimmy's been great but I'm betting that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</P>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</P>


And I agree with you, FTU <U>will </U>be in the finals.</P>


rivers just had a horrible game against kc and has been subpar all year, what makes you think gb will be a shoot out?
</P>


Green Bay's defense has sucked all year. I know because I have them on my FF team. That will be a high scoring, passing game for both teams. Look for Rivers to have 350+ yards and 3 TD's.</P>


</P>


Just looked it up Dez. GB defense is 31st vs. the pass.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:29 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</p>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</p>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</p>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</p>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</p>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</p>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</p>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</p>


Jimmy's been great but I'm better that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</p>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</p>


And I agree with you, FTU <u>will </u>be in the finals.</p>




i dont think the loss of graham to gain Stafford improves your team as greatly as u do. Definitly not enough to load up a top team as well

I think it was bad moves all around
</p>


The trade was essentially Graham for Stafford. The rest is window dressing. I would submit that the difference between Rivers and Stafford isfar greater than Graham and Gonzo. Gonzo is a huge target for Ryan in the red zone. And I can now trade Rivers if he has a big game this week to someone who needs a QB. Because I still need a WR.</p>

your team did not improve as much as u think it did like i said.

Gonzalez peaked i say he has at most two TDs for the rest of the year and he'll be lucky to hit 750 yards on the season

Graham will be 1000+ 10s

Again, the slight better you may of possibly made ur team washes with how much much of a powerhouse u just made lando

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 11:31 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 11:33 AM
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/11/giants_vs_patriots_antrel_roll.html

i dont really like rolle. hes really over rated and overpaid imo. he doesnt bring an attitude like he claims. every time this defense gets gashed and hes in on the play he slaps the opposing players helmet or hand. you think lt did that ****? you think stra did that? lt and stra would be talking **** before and after plays. get mean, get mad. make offenses fear the giants d. dont get me wrong he makes good plays on occasion and when hes not getting personal foul calls. i just dont see any of those qualities on the field that this article and himself claim besides ****y, and i definitely dont see ANY swag on this defense.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 11:33 AM
<div class="report">


Adrian Peterson leads the league in carries against eight-man fronts.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Despite seeing stacked boxes more than anyone,
Peterson leads the league in rushes, rushing yards and rushing
touchdowns. If Christian Ponder can continue to be a significant upgrade
on Donovan McNabb, Peterson could be even better. He certainly has a
good chance to be fantasy's best player over the second half of the
season.
</div>

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 11:35 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</p>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</p>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</p>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</p>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</p>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</p>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</p>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</p>


Jimmy's been great but I'm betting that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</p>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</p>


And I agree with you, FTU <u>will </u>be in the finals.</p>


rivers just had a horrible game against kc and has been subpar all year, what makes you think gb will be a shoot out?
</p>


Green Bay's defense has sucked all year. I know because I have them on my FF team. That will be a high scoring, passing game for both teams. <u>Look for Rivers to have 350+ yards and 3 TD's.</u></p>


</p>


Just looked it up Dez. GB defense is 31st vs. the pass.</p>yous crazy. something is wrong with rivers. i think hes hurt. did you watch monday night? brutal.

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 11:35 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</P>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</P>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</P>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</P>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</P>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</P>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</P>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</P>


Jimmy's been great but I'm better that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</P>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</P>


And I agree with you, FTU <U>will </U>be in the finals.</P>




i dont think the loss of graham to gain Stafford improves your team as greatly as u do. Definitly not enough to load up a top team as well

I think it was bad moves all around
</P>


The trade was essentially Graham for Stafford. The rest is window dressing. I would submit that the difference between Rivers and Stafford isfar greater than Graham and Gonzo. Gonzo is a huge target for Ryan in the red zone. And I can now trade Rivers if he has a big game this week to someone who needs a QB. Because I still need a WR.</P>




your team did not improve as much as u think it did like i said.

Gonzalez peaked i say he has at most two TDs for the rest of the year and he'll be lucky to hit 750 yards on the season

Graham will be 1000+ 10s

Again, the slight better you may of possibly made ur team washes with how much much of a powerhouse u just made lando
</P>


Even if you're right (and I don't think you are) thats still not a huge difference. Even if Gonzo (who is past his bye and Jimmy isn't) does get something like 50 yards/game and a couple more TD's and Jimmy gets 70 yards and lets say 4 more TD's. Thats only like 4 points per game difference on average. Stafford is averaging more than 10 points more than Rivers. Plus I still have Rivers for matchups. AND Staffords bye week has Rivers going at home against the second worst passing defense in football with a great offense in GB. All the makings of a passing shootout.</P>

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 11:37 AM
<div class="report">


Adrian Peterson leads the league in carries against eight-man fronts.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Despite seeing stacked boxes more than anyone,
Peterson leads the league in rushes, rushing yards and rushing
touchdowns. If Christian Ponder can continue to be a significant upgrade
on Donovan McNabb, Peterson could be even better. He certainly has a
good chance to be fantasy's best player over the second half of the
season.
</div>aps been an animal this year.

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 11:38 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</P>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</P>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</P>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</P>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</P>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</P>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</P>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</P>


Jimmy's been great but I'm betting that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</P>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</P>


And I agree with you, FTU <U>will </U>be in the finals.</P>


rivers just had a horrible game against kc and has been subpar all year, what makes you think gb will be a shoot out?
</P>


Green Bay's defense has sucked all year. I know because I have them on my FF team. That will be a high scoring, passing game for both teams. <U>Look for Rivers to have 350+ yards and 3 TD's.</U></P>


</P>


Just looked it up Dez. GB defense is 31st vs. the pass.</P>


yous crazy. something is wrong with rivers. i think hes hurt. did you watch monday night? brutal.
</P>


And thats why I traded for Stafford. But all signs point to a huge day for Rivers this week.</P>


At home, against a terrible pass defense, and the opposing offense is awesome. Thats a formula for a huge FF day for Rivers.</P>

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 11:41 AM
<font size="6">powerhouse lando</font>

Just rolls off the tongue so nice.




Byron is going to win the league so I don't know what you are all fretting about....

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 11:41 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.
</P>


I'm very high on Graham. Thats why I drafted him. But I think its a net win for me to have Stafford and lose Graham. Hopefully Gonzo can get in the endzone and make that a near wash. I don't have any dillusions that Gonzo will outperform Graham. Plus Graham has a bye week 11. Now I don't have to deal with that.</P>


I'm sure you are high on Jennings but you still traded him.</P>

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 11:42 AM
i think that this Graham kid is Witten in his prime

hes having an Antonio Gates type year

The Rams locked him down pretty good so I bet people will watch film of that game and try to replicate what they did. That being said I guess the Rams are one of the best teams in the league at defending TE's. Only if they could defend anything else. lol

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 11:43 AM
<FONT size=6>powerhouse lando</FONT>

Just rolls off the tongue so nice.




Byron is going to win the league so I don't know what you are all fretting about....
</P>


Thats what we thought about you two years ago. Maybe the Pack will rest Rodgers week 16. Who knows?</P>

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 11:45 AM
is kate marra in that show american horror story&gt;?

DavenIII
11-03-2011, 11:45 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.
</p>


I'm very high on Graham. Thats why I drafted him. But I think its a net win for me to have Stafford and lose Graham. Hopefully Gonzo can get in the endzone and make that a near wash. I don't have any dillusions that Gonzo will outperform Graham. Plus Graham has a bye week 11. Now I don't have to deal with that.</p>


I'm sure you are high on Jennings but you still traded him.</p>

I think Graham is a HUGE upgrade over Gonzo...but then I think Stafford is a HUGE upgrade over Rivers....sooo I think it's a decent trade...slightly better for Lando...but good for both parties involved.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 11:46 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.
</p>


I'm very high on Graham. Thats why I drafted him. But I think its a net win for me to have Stafford and lose Graham. Hopefully Gonzo can get in the endzone and make that a near wash. I don't have any dillusions that Gonzo will outperform Graham. Plus Graham has a bye week 11. Now I don't have to deal with that.</p>


I'm sure you are high on Jennings but you still traded him.</p>
Jennings has arguable been my MVP this year. I really didn't want to trade him and am still not sure I made the right decision. I just saw Kolb probably won't play so it's going to be even harder for Beanie cause they will stack the box. With that knee I was just so concerned and it was the perfect opportunity to unload him. I just hope Fitz can find his grove with a new QB if that is the case. I think we both improved our team with our trade. The kicker for me was getting Jones because if something happens to Jordy or Greg I will have the next in line to step in.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:51 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.


lando, just because u SAY that it was hard decision for you to make on that Vick trade, nobody in their right mind would say you didn't rip sharick off. Stop it. This misdirection is unbecoming.

That trade with Daven is up in the air. Beanie's health is the wildcard.

You may not of ripped Moorehead off but it was a dumb move for Moorehead to make. Top 5 WR production out of graham this year. Thats the bottom line

The thought frightens me on how you would of reacted had I got that deal off on Sharick. Im pretty sure you wouldn't of had to think about that

byron
11-03-2011, 11:51 AM
<FONT size=6>powerhouse lando</FONT>

Just rolls off the tongue so nice.




Byron is going to win the league so I don't know what you are all fretting about....
exactly thatswhy I'm not worried about a thing......rude dogs = top dogs...I'll be waiting ;)</P>


</P>


trade away</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:52 AM
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/11/giants_vs_patriots_antrel_roll.html

i dont really like rolle. hes really over rated and overpaid imo. he doesnt bring an attitude like he claims. every time this defense gets gashed and hes in on the play he slaps the opposing players helmet or hand. you think lt did that ****? you think stra did that? lt and stra would be talking **** before and after plays. get mean, get mad. make offenses fear the giants d. dont get me wrong he makes good plays on occasion and when hes not getting personal foul calls. i just dont see any of those qualities on the field that this article and himself claim besides ****y, and i definitely dont see ANY swag on this defense.


I disagree, hes come up and played the run pretty well this year and has filled in at slot for us. I think hes doing a damn fine job

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:53 AM
<div class="report">


Adrian Peterson leads the league in carries against eight-man fronts.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Despite seeing stacked boxes more than anyone,
Peterson leads the league in rushes, rushing yards and rushing
touchdowns. If Christian Ponder can continue to be a significant upgrade
on Donovan McNabb, Peterson could be even better. He certainly has a
good chance to be fantasy's best player over the second half of the
season.
</div>

if I was daven u would of been paying with a better back than Beanie... but u don't really have one that could of worked.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:55 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.
</p>


OK Matt, I went from a QB who was geting me 10 to 15 points/game to one who can get me 25 to 30 points a game. The difference between Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is probably an average of 3 to 5 points per game.</p>


Flacco vs. Stafford......huge gain for me</p>


Graham vs. Gonzo......somewhat of a gain for Lando</p>


Jones vs. Knowshon......wash at best (but it gives me a handcuff maybe for McGahee, if I ever lose either of my starting RB's)</p>


Yes it helps Lando because he really isn't losing anything because he has Vick. But thats what trades are supposed to do. Help both teams.</p>



i disagree that Flacco for Stafford is a huge gain for you. First off, Stafford is on bye this week and you are without a starting QB. Secondly, Stafford is already getting nicked up. Thirdly, while Flacco has DEFINTILY had his stinkers he has also had osme big game games and i'd take the schedule the Ravens have as a QB vs the schedule the Lions have as a QB ANY Time

not to mention your on drugs if u think Graham over Gonzo was only a somewhat of a gain. You bought Gonzo high and he will get low now that Jones is back, White is picking it up, and Turner is effective. Graham is the most targeted PLAYER in the red zone and is putting up top 5 RECEIVER numbers this year as a TE.

Bottom line I don't think u upgraded as much at QB from here on out like u think u did, I don't think u downgraded as little at TE as u think u did, and overall I don't think your minor improvements warranted how much u put Lando over the top. I know you got to do what u got to do, but I mean you also got to keep in mind that even if u get to the finals, you'll now probably have to face him
</p>


I have Rivers at home against GB. You know thats going to be a shoot out. But all in all Stafford has outscored Rivers by more than 10 points per game. That makes up for the loss of Graham by a lot.</p>


Jimmy's been great but I'm better that he fades a bit now that defenses have seen him and can roll coverage.</p>


I know its a gamble, but Stafford is the key for me. My QB's have been killing me.Stafford is #4 right now in FF.</p>


And I agree with you, FTU <u>will </u>be in the finals.</p>




i dont think the loss of graham to gain Stafford improves your team as greatly as u do. Definitly not enough to load up a top team as well

I think it was bad moves all around
</p>


The trade was essentially Graham for Stafford. The rest is window dressing. I would submit that the difference between Rivers and Stafford isfar greater than Graham and Gonzo. Gonzo is a huge target for Ryan in the red zone. And I can now trade Rivers if he has a big game this week to someone who needs a QB. Because I still need a WR.</p>




your team did not improve as much as u think it did like i said.

Gonzalez peaked i say he has at most two TDs for the rest of the year and he'll be lucky to hit 750 yards on the season

Graham will be 1000+ 10s

Again, the slight better you may of possibly made ur team washes with how much much of a powerhouse u just made lando
</p>


Even if you're right (and I don't think you are) thats still not a huge difference. Even if Gonzo (who is past his bye and Jimmy isn't) does get something like 50 yards/game and a couple more TD's and Jimmy gets 70 yards and lets say 4 more TD's. Thats only like 4 points per game difference on average. Stafford is averaging more than 10 points more than Rivers. Plus I still have Rivers for matchups. AND Staffords bye week has Rivers going at home against the second worst passing defense in football with a great offense in GB. All the makings of a passing shootout.</p>

time will tell old man, we'll rehash this trade

and like i said - losing a TE for a week compared to losing the QB for a week is a HUUGE difference. You would of been better off staying with what u had and not loading lando up. Thats my story and im stickin to it

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:57 AM
i think that this Graham kid is Witten in his prime

hes having an Antonio Gates type year

The Rams locked him down pretty good so I bet people will watch film of that game and try to replicate what they did. That being said I guess the Rams are one of the best teams in the league at defending TE's. Only if they could defend anything else. lol


stop bull****ting

if u believed any of that u wouldn't of traded for him

hes had two games under 11 fantasy points this year. THe production hes giving at the TE position is sick

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 11:58 AM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.
</p>


I'm very high on Graham. Thats why I drafted him. But I think its a net win for me to have Stafford and lose Graham. Hopefully Gonzo can get in the endzone and make that a near wash. I don't have any dillusions that Gonzo will outperform Graham. Plus Graham has a bye week 11. Now I don't have to deal with that.</p>


I'm sure you are high on Jennings but you still traded him.</p>

I think Graham is a HUGE upgrade over Gonzo...but then I think Stafford is a HUGE upgrade over Rivers....sooo I think it's a decent trade...slightly better for Lando...but good for both parties involved.


not with the schedules and the byes left. And not to load up a top team even more

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:00 PM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.
</p>


I'm very high on Graham. Thats why I drafted him. But I think its a net win for me to have Stafford and lose Graham. Hopefully Gonzo can get in the endzone and make that a near wash. I don't have any dillusions that Gonzo will outperform Graham. Plus Graham has a bye week 11. Now I don't have to deal with that.</p>


I'm sure you are high on Jennings but you still traded him.</p>
Jennings has arguable been my MVP this year. I really didn't want to trade him and am still not sure I made the right decision. I just saw Kolb probably won't play so it's going to be even harder for Beanie cause they will stack the box. With that knee I was just so concerned and it was the perfect opportunity to unload him. I just hope Fitz can find his grove with a new QB if that is the case. I think we both improved our team with our trade. The kicker for me was getting Jones because if something happens to Jordy or Greg I will have the next in line to step in.


swapping Jennings for Graham is basically a push especially when considering you upgraded Beanie for AP and finding a legit WR3 is easier than finding a legit TE

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:01 PM
<font size="6">powerhouse lando</font>

Just rolls off the tongue so nice.




Byron is going to win the league so I don't know what you are all fretting about....
exactly thatswhy I'm not worried about a thing......rude dogs = top dogs...I'll be waiting ;)</p>


</p>


trade away</p>

LMAO

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 12:01 PM
<font size="6">powerhouse lando</font>

Just rolls off the tongue so nice.




Byron is going to win the league so I don't know what you are all fretting about....
</p>


Thats what we thought about you two years ago. Maybe the Pack will rest Rodgers week 16. Who knows?</p>
Yeah, and I should have won 2 years ago. Stupid Peyton-Reggie and ****ing Jon Stewart. Damn that still pisses me off so bad. I should be going for the 3 Peat.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:03 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:04 PM
<font size="6">powerhouse lando</font>

Just rolls off the tongue so nice.




Byron is going to win the league so I don't know what you are all fretting about....
</p>


Thats what we thought about you two years ago. Maybe the Pack will rest Rodgers week 16. Who knows?</p>
Yeah, and I should have won 2 years ago. Stupid Peyton-Reggie and ****ing Jon Stewart. Damn that still pisses me off so bad. I should be going for the 3 Peat.


I want you to tell me u didn't rip Sharick off

byron
11-03-2011, 12:11 PM
<FONT size=6>powerhouse lando</FONT>

Just rolls off the tongue so nice.




Byron is going to win the league so I don't know what you are all fretting about....
</P>


Thats what we thought about you two years ago. Maybe the Pack will rest Rodgers week 16. Who knows?</P>Thats all right I got whats him name to back that up...

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 12:12 PM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.


lando, just because u SAY that it was hard decision for you to make on that Vick trade, nobody in their right mind would say you didn't rip sharick off. Stop it. This misdirection is unbecoming.

That trade with Daven is up in the air. Beanie's health is the wildcard.

You may not of ripped Moorehead off but it was a dumb move for Moorehead to make. Top 5 WR production out of graham this year. Thats the bottom line

The thought frightens me on how you would of reacted had I got that deal off on Sharick. Im pretty sure you wouldn't of had to think about that

Sharick would say I didn't rip him off. lol No misdirection here, just factual info.

Ripping someone off and valuing players for ones team is different. You may feel that MH made a bad trade but he likes it and felt he improves his team. Personally I think I got over on him but that doesn't mean I ripped him off and I would rather have Phillip than Stafford from here on out.

I would not have reacted anyway had you pulled that trade off because I don't react anymore. As far as I'm concerned every trade is fair and no one can say anything because we don't know how things will turn out. I thought Daven got taken to the cleaners and he won that trade to this point. I freaked out about Shocks trade with Bowe and Clark and it turns out he won that trade as well. I have learned my lesson with this whole trading thing. Unless it's late in the year and a 7-12 team makes a shady trade with a 1-6 team I will never say anything again. I did complain alot back in the day but I never will again regarding trades.

When the year is over we can look back at all this and see who really got ripped off vs made a great deal they thought would improve their team.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 12:13 PM
<font size="6">powerhouse lando</font>

Just rolls off the tongue so nice.




Byron is going to win the league so I don't know what you are all fretting about....
exactly thatswhy I'm not worried about a thing......rude dogs = top dogs...I'll be waiting ;)</p>


</p>


trade away</p>
I'm nippin at your heels like Blue does to Koda.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 12:13 PM
<div class="report">


Adrian Peterson leads the league in carries against eight-man fronts.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Despite seeing stacked boxes more than anyone,
Peterson leads the league in rushes, rushing yards and rushing
touchdowns. If Christian Ponder can continue to be a significant upgrade
on Donovan McNabb, Peterson could be even better. He certainly has a
good chance to be fantasy's best player over the second half of the
season.
</div>

if I was daven u would of been paying with a better back than Beanie... but u don't really have one that could of worked.



Originally I was going to give him CJ and Ringer but he changed his mind.

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 12:16 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</P>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</P>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</P>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </P>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </P>

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 12:16 PM
wow !!!!!!</P>


Lando making moves....I dunno how fair the trade is that involves Peterson but oh well !</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:18 PM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.


lando, just because u SAY that it was hard decision for you to make on that Vick trade, nobody in their right mind would say you didn't rip sharick off. Stop it. This misdirection is unbecoming.

That trade with Daven is up in the air. Beanie's health is the wildcard.

You may not of ripped Moorehead off but it was a dumb move for Moorehead to make. Top 5 WR production out of graham this year. Thats the bottom line

The thought frightens me on how you would of reacted had I got that deal off on Sharick. Im pretty sure you wouldn't of had to think about that

Sharick would say I didn't rip him off. lol No misdirection here, just factual info.

Ripping someone off and valuing players for ones team is different. You may feel that MH made a bad trade but he likes it and felt he improves his team. Personally I think I got over on him but that doesn't mean I ripped him off and I would rather have Phillip than Stafford from here on out.

I would not have reacted anyway had you pulled that trade off because I don't react anymore. As far as I'm concerned every trade is fair and no one can say anything because we don't know how things will turn out. I thought Daven got taken to the cleaners and he won that trade to this point. I freaked out about Shocks trade with Bowe and Clark and it turns out he won that trade as well. I have learned my lesson with this whole trading thing. Unless it's late in the year and a 7-12 team makes a shady trade with a 1-6 team I will never say anything again. I did complain alot back in the day but I never will again regarding trades.

When the year is over we can look back at all this and see who really got ripped off vs made a great deal they thought would improve their team.


that was a weak misdirection, your not getting off the hook. Obviously if Sharick did the trade he doesn't think he got ripped off

Simple question: Did you or did you not rip Sharick off?

Im just putting u on the spot because well u did a great job capitalizing on the free value u got with Vick so that u could move Stafford.

Again I didn't say either of ur past two trades were rip offs, I just said it was a bad move for Moorehead to make. Theres a difference.

Just admit the truth, its time for you to be exposed for the trade shark you are. You deserve trade treatment like I get in here. Every year you have osme sort of big trade where u completely take somebody and EVERYBODY overlooks it. Then I get killed for handing two #1 WRs for a mid level fantasy starting QB who isn't living up and a 1a WR. This is an amber alert out on Lando - time for the truth to come. Your a sweet heart and a great guy, but when it comes to fantasy people give u a pass when trading

http://www.indiatarget.com/stills/slide_show/exposed1.jpg

[;)]

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:20 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</p>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</p>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</p>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </p>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </p>

but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 12:22 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</P>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</P>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</P>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </P>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </P>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</P>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</P>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:23 PM
<div class="report">


Adrian Peterson leads the league in carries against eight-man fronts.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Despite seeing stacked boxes more than anyone,
Peterson leads the league in rushes, rushing yards and rushing
touchdowns. If Christian Ponder can continue to be a significant upgrade
on Donovan McNabb, Peterson could be even better. He certainly has a
good chance to be fantasy's best player over the second half of the
season.
</div>

if I was daven u would of been paying with a better back than Beanie... but u don't really have one that could of worked.



Originally I was going to give him CJ and Ringer but he changed his mind.


yea i would of preferred Beanie too

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 12:23 PM
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MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:24 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</p>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</p>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</p>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </p>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </p>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</p>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</p>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</p>

u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:24 PM
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mother****

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 12:26 PM
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</P>


Won't effect us at all. It'll be a passing day for both teams. All those dopes who have been hating on BJ will get their come-up-ins this week.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:26 PM
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mother****

byron
11-03-2011, 12:27 PM
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mother****
ready or not its time of Scott !

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 12:28 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</P>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</P>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</P>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </P>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </P>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</P>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</P>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</P>




u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall
</P>


He's left with a QB who takes more hits than any other in the NFL, backed up by Flacco.</P>


But what are you going to do, he had two top QB's. So he could deal one and on paper not take a hit.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:31 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</p>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</p>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</p>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </p>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </p>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</p>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</p>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</p>




u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall
</p>


He's left with a QB who takes more hits than any other in the NFL, backed up by Flacco.</p>


But what are you going to do, he had two top QB's. So he could deal one and on paper not take a hit.</p>

yes but why did he have two top QBs?

And i mean yea anybody can get injured, but bottom line is that he has a top 3-4 QB still, top 2 RB, best TE whose having a better year than Jennings

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 12:31 PM
Great I get to play Lando's now even more loaded team this week.....hurray...I dunno what the point of drafting well is when these trades totally shift power....</P>


someone is gunna get a bargain on McFadden and Andre Johnson next week.</P>

lawl
11-03-2011, 12:33 PM
You guys are dummies.

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 12:34 PM
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</p>


Won't effect us at all. It'll be a passing day for both teams. All those dopes who have been hating on BJ will get their come-up-ins this week.</p>yea agreed. i really think eli is going to go off. funny to say, but i think hes coming out with a chip on his shoulder for this one

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 12:37 PM
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mother****
ready or not its time of Scott !yea im looking forward to seeing what he can do. wares time has passed

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 12:37 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</P>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</P>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</P>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </P>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </P>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</P>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</P>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</P>




u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall
</P>


He's left with a QB who takes more hits than any other in the NFL, backed up by Flacco.</P>


But what are you going to do, he had two top QB's. So he could deal one and on paper not take a hit.</P>




yes but why did he have two top QBs?

And i mean yea anybody can get injured, but bottom line is that he has a top 3-4 QB still, top 2 RB, best TE whose having a better year than Jennings
</P>


The difference between Graham and Gonzo is less than the difference between Jennings any any of the crap 3rd WR's he has left.</P>


He was able to make the deal with Scrappy because of his bye crisis. It happens. Lando is actually worse off this week because Peterson is on a bye and Jennings will probably have a huge day vs. SD.</P>

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 12:38 PM
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</P>


Won't effect us at all. It'll be a passing day for both teams. All those dopes who have been hating on BJ will get their come-up-ins this week.</P>


yea agreed. i really think eli is going to go off. funny to say, but i think hes coming out with a chip on his shoulder for this one
</P>


I agree..because Eli is playing <U>MUCH</U> better this season.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:40 PM
Great I get to play Lando's now even more loaded team this week.....hurray...I dunno what the point of drafting well is when these trades totally shift power....</p>


someone is gunna get a bargain on McFadden and Andre Johnson next week.</p>

why wait?

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 12:40 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him

Don't hate the playa, Hate the game.

http://www.philzone.org/discus/messages/439459/686773.jpg

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:41 PM
You guys are dummies.

your a stupid head

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:43 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</p>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</p>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</p>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </p>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </p>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</p>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</p>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</p>




u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall
</p>


He's left with a QB who takes more hits than any other in the NFL, backed up by Flacco.</p>


But what are you going to do, he had two top QB's. So he could deal one and on paper not take a hit.</p>




yes but why did he have two top QBs?

And i mean yea anybody can get injured, but bottom line is that he has a top 3-4 QB still, top 2 RB, best TE whose having a better year than Jennings
</p>


The difference between Graham and Gonzo is less than the difference between Jennings any any of the crap 3rd WR's he has left.</p>


He was able to make the deal with Scrappy because of his bye crisis. It happens. Lando is actually worse off this week because Peterson is on a bye and Jennings will probably have a huge day vs. SD.</p>

to complete that equation u have to compare Jennings to Graham, Gonzo to 3rd WR, and AP to Beanie

stop it

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:44 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him

Don't hate the playa, Hate the game.

http://www.philzone.org/discus/messages/439459/686773.jpg


i love the game, respect the player, can't stand the ignorance of the audience

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 12:44 PM
I want you to tell me u didn't rip Sharick off

Ok, I didn't rip Sharick off. I think I did get over on him but it wasn't a "rip off". He valued Washington to pair with Matt ( which by the way he did beat me last week cause of Nates 2 TD's ) and got Matt Ryan.

Vick is Vick of course but by the end of the year it might not be as bad as you think. Hopefully it will.

lawl
11-03-2011, 12:45 PM
Great I get to play Lando's now even more loaded team this week.....hurray...I dunno what the point of drafting well is when these trades totally shift power....</P>


someone is gunna get a bargain on McFadden and Andre Johnson next week.</P>


</P>


trade sent!</P>

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 12:47 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</P>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</P>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</P>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </P>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </P>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</P>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</P>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</P>




u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall
</P>


He's left with a QB who takes more hits than any other in the NFL, backed up by Flacco.</P>


But what are you going to do, he had two top QB's. So he could deal one and on paper not take a hit.</P>




yes but why did he have two top QBs?

And i mean yea anybody can get injured, but bottom line is that he has a top 3-4 QB still, top 2 RB, best TE whose having a better year than Jennings
</P>


The difference between Graham and Gonzo is less than the difference between Jennings any any of the crap 3rd WR's he has left.</P>


He was able to make the deal with Scrappy because of his bye crisis. It happens. Lando is actually worse off this week because Peterson is on a bye and Jennings will probably have a huge day vs. SD.</P>




to complete that equation u have to compare Jennings to Graham, Gonzo to 3rd WR, and AP to Beanie

stop it
</P>


That is almost all a product of the Scrappy trade. I got a QB who will be better than +10 vs. my old QB and gave up a TE who would be +2 to 4 vs. my new TE.</P>


The AP thing is a different matter.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:51 PM
I want you to tell me u didn't rip Sharick off

Ok, I didn't rip Sharick off. I think I did get over on him but it wasn't a "rip off". He valued Washington to pair with Matt ( which by the way he did beat me last week cause of Nates 2 TD's ) and got Matt Ryan.

Vick is Vick of course but by the end of the year it might not be as bad as you think. Hopefully it will.


OMG - STOP IT

its already very bad and it will probably look worse seeing as how Philly is getting hot

stop it. See? You guys crucify me because I keep it real and am honest, yet lando will live in denial and you SHEEP believe him!

#wakeupcall

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:52 PM
Great I get to play Lando's now even more loaded team this week.....hurray...I dunno what the point of drafting well is when these trades totally shift power....</p>


someone is gunna get a bargain on McFadden and Andre Johnson next week.</p>


</p>


trade sent!</p>

Ditto

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 12:53 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</p>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</p>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</p>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </p>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </p>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</p>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</p>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</p>




u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall
</p>


He's left with a QB who takes more hits than any other in the NFL, backed up by Flacco.</p>


But what are you going to do, he had two top QB's. So he could deal one and on paper not take a hit.</p>




yes but why did he have two top QBs?

And i mean yea anybody can get injured, but bottom line is that he has a top 3-4 QB still, top 2 RB, best TE whose having a better year than Jennings
</p>


The difference between Graham and Gonzo is less than the difference between Jennings any any of the crap 3rd WR's he has left.</p>


He was able to make the deal with Scrappy because of his bye crisis. It happens. Lando is actually worse off this week because Peterson is on a bye and Jennings will probably have a huge day vs. SD.</p>




to complete that equation u have to compare Jennings to Graham, Gonzo to 3rd WR, and AP to Beanie

stop it
</p>


That is almost all a product of the Scrappy trade. I got a QB who will be better than +10 vs. my old QB and gave up a TE who would be +2 to 4 vs. my new TE.</p>


The AP thing is a different matter.</p>

Stafford hit the easy part of his schedule and Gonzo will not be close to Graham - book it

byron
11-03-2011, 12:54 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him

Don't hate the playa, Hate the game.

http://www.philzone.org/discus/messages/439459/686773.jpg


i love the game, respect the player, can't stand the ignorance of the audience
Teach itbrother!

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 12:59 PM
</P>


I want Romo....</P>

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 01:02 PM
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-11-02/does-some-of-the-tebow-mocking-cross-the-line?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl13%7Csec1_lnk2%7C109676

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 01:03 PM
</p>


I want Romo....</p>

check your PM

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 01:05 PM
The Jennings and Beanie deal 4 Peterson and whomever so is hte one with MH....this is all my fault really as I had an offer for Stafford weeks ago that I shoud have accepted....</P>


</P>


But Nate Washington 4 Micheal Vick ( how the **** that happened I don't get how that could have been allowed )</P>


a trade like that basically makes the rest of the FF season pointless and leaves the herd scrambling the waiver wire and makeing fair trades tyring to catch up cause of one blunder of a trade.</P>


</P>


I won't just give away my best players in a moment of anger but Jesus this sux....specially for the person who has to play Lando coming off topping off his team....oh wait that's me....</P>


And 3 seasons ago the more deserving team won cause I built my team from the ground up off the waiver wire and made brilliant match-up plays down the streach....Lando ripped off Bandy for the best player in the game...( making his already amazing team unbeatable ) ....like this year !</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 01:09 PM
The Jennings and Beanie deal 4 Peterson and whomever so is hte one with MH....this is all my fault really as I had an offer for Stafford weeks ago that I shoud have accepted....</p>


</p>


But Nate Washington 4 Micheal Vick ( how the **** that happened I don't get how that could have been allowed )</p>


a trade like that basically makes the rest of the FF season pointless and leaves the herd scrambling the waiver wire and makeing fair trades tyring to catch up cause of one blunder of a trade.</p>


</p>


I won't just give away my best players in a moment of anger but Jesus this sux....specially for the person who has to play Lando coming off topping off his team....oh wait that's me....</p>


<font size="6">And 3 seasons ago the more deserving team won cause I built my team from the ground up off the waiver wire and made brilliant match-up plays down the streach....Lando ripped off Bandy for the best player in the game...( making his already amazing team unbeatable ) ....like this year !</font></p>

AND THE TRUTHHHHHHHHH SHALL SET THEE FREEEEEEE

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:11 PM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.


lando, just because u SAY that it was hard decision for you to make on that Vick trade, nobody in their right mind would say you didn't rip sharick off. Stop it. This misdirection is unbecoming.

That trade with Daven is up in the air. Beanie's health is the wildcard.

You may not of ripped Moorehead off but it was a dumb move for Moorehead to make. Top 5 WR production out of graham this year. Thats the bottom line

The thought frightens me on how you would of reacted had I got that deal off on Sharick. Im pretty sure you wouldn't of had to think about that

Sharick would say I didn't rip him off. lol No misdirection here, just factual info.

Ripping someone off and valuing players for ones team is different. You may feel that MH made a bad trade but he likes it and felt he improves his team. Personally I think I got over on him but that doesn't mean I ripped him off and I would rather have Phillip than Stafford from here on out.

I would not have reacted anyway had you pulled that trade off because I don't react anymore. As far as I'm concerned every trade is fair and no one can say anything because we don't know how things will turn out. I thought Daven got taken to the cleaners and he won that trade to this point. I freaked out about Shocks trade with Bowe and Clark and it turns out he won that trade as well. I have learned my lesson with this whole trading thing. Unless it's late in the year and a 7-12 team makes a shady trade with a 1-6 team I will never say anything again. I did complain alot back in the day but I never will again regarding trades.

When the year is over we can look back at all this and see who really got ripped off vs made a great deal they thought would improve their team.


that was a weak misdirection, your not getting off the hook. Obviously if Sharick did the trade he doesn't think he got ripped off

Simple question: Did you or did you not rip Sharick off?

Im just putting u on the spot because well u did a great job capitalizing on the free value u got with Vick so that u could move Stafford.

Again I didn't say either of ur past two trades were rip offs, I just said it was a bad move for Moorehead to make. Theres a difference.

Just admit the truth, its time for you to be exposed for the trade shark you are. You deserve trade treatment like I get in here. Every year you have osme sort of big trade where u completely take somebody and EVERYBODY overlooks it. Then I get killed for handing two #1 WRs for a mid level fantasy starting QB who isn't living up and a 1a WR. This is an amber alert out on Lando - time for the truth to come. Your a sweet heart and a great guy, but when it comes to fantasy people give u a pass when trading

http://www.indiatarget.com/stills/slide_show/exposed1.jpg

[;)]



I am Honest Abe.

You are Gadahfi.

You can continue to try and trash my name and my trades but the good people of our league know I only make fair trades that benefit both teams. I would never rip someone off because I don't want my name tarnished.

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 01:11 PM
The Jennings and Beanie deal 4 Peterson and whomever so is hte one with MH....this is all my fault really as I had an offer for Stafford weeks ago that I shoud have accepted....</p>


</p>


But Nate Washington 4 Micheal Vick ( how the **** that happened I don't get how that could have been allowed )</p>


a trade like that basically makes the rest of the FF season pointless and leaves the herd scrambling the waiver wire and makeing fair trades tyring to catch up cause of one blunder of a trade.</p>


</p>


I won't just give away my best players in a moment of anger but Jesus this sux....specially for the person who has to play Lando coming off topping off his team....oh wait that's me....</p>


<font size="6">And 3 seasons ago the more deserving team won cause I built my team from the ground up off the waiver wire and made brilliant match-up plays down the streach....Lando ripped off Bandy for the best player in the game...( making his already amazing team unbeatable ) ....like this year !</font></p>

AND THE TRUTHHHHHHHHH SHALL SET THEE FREEEEEEE


None of you can be trusted. LOL. All's fair in Swag Fantasy Football.

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 01:13 PM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.


lando, just because u SAY that it was hard decision for you to make on that Vick trade, nobody in their right mind would say you didn't rip sharick off. Stop it. This misdirection is unbecoming.

That trade with Daven is up in the air. Beanie's health is the wildcard.

You may not of ripped Moorehead off but it was a dumb move for Moorehead to make. Top 5 WR production out of graham this year. Thats the bottom line

The thought frightens me on how you would of reacted had I got that deal off on Sharick. Im pretty sure you wouldn't of had to think about that

Sharick would say I didn't rip him off. lol No misdirection here, just factual info.

Ripping someone off and valuing players for ones team is different. You may feel that MH made a bad trade but he likes it and felt he improves his team. Personally I think I got over on him but that doesn't mean I ripped him off and I would rather have Phillip than Stafford from here on out.

I would not have reacted anyway had you pulled that trade off because I don't react anymore. As far as I'm concerned every trade is fair and no one can say anything because we don't know how things will turn out. I thought Daven got taken to the cleaners and he won that trade to this point. I freaked out about Shocks trade with Bowe and Clark and it turns out he won that trade as well. I have learned my lesson with this whole trading thing. Unless it's late in the year and a 7-12 team makes a shady trade with a 1-6 team I will never say anything again. I did complain alot back in the day but I never will again regarding trades.

When the year is over we can look back at all this and see who really got ripped off vs made a great deal they thought would improve their team.


that was a weak misdirection, your not getting off the hook. Obviously if Sharick did the trade he doesn't think he got ripped off

Simple question: Did you or did you not rip Sharick off?

Im just putting u on the spot because well u did a great job capitalizing on the free value u got with Vick so that u could move Stafford.

Again I didn't say either of ur past two trades were rip offs, I just said it was a bad move for Moorehead to make. Theres a difference.

Just admit the truth, its time for you to be exposed for the trade shark you are. You deserve trade treatment like I get in here. Every year you have osme sort of big trade where u completely take somebody and EVERYBODY overlooks it. Then I get killed for handing two #1 WRs for a mid level fantasy starting QB who isn't living up and a 1a WR. This is an amber alert out on Lando - time for the truth to come. Your a sweet heart and a great guy, but when it comes to fantasy people give u a pass when trading

http://www.indiatarget.com/stills/slide_show/exposed1.jpg

[;)]



I am Honest Abe.

You are Gadahfi.

You can continue to try and trash my name and my trades but the good people of our league know I only make fair trades that benefit both teams. I would never rip someone off because I don't want my name tarnished.
I'd tarnish the brass off of that!

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 01:15 PM
</P>


I want Romo....</P>




check your PM
</P>


</P>


responded.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 01:15 PM
i would just like to congrats Landon - he has officially become the scumbag of trading in this league.

I've held the title (unfairly for this league) for a while now but the target is now on Lando

Sharick and Pappy - no clue what u guys were thinking

everybody - u owe daven an apology

daven - even though u made him stronger, I think u also made urself strong as long as Beanie doesn't go down.

I would have to disagree strongly. I never have the intent to rip someone off like you. You still hold the title because no one will trade with you ( except Daven ) and it looks like he won that trade. My offers are always fair and in the best interest of both teams. You can't kill Sharick for the Vick trade because he knows what he is doing, he won the B league last year. Maybe he has the same feelings that Daven does about rival teams and players. Pappy needed a QB and I guess is not very high on Graham for some strange reason.

So thanks for trying to give me the title but you are still the undisputed rip off king of the world. Keep your belt for the next chump. Meanwhile keep staring up at my team. You will finish below me just like I said in the summer.

Jealousy is the highest form of flattery.


lando, just because u SAY that it was hard decision for you to make on that Vick trade, nobody in their right mind would say you didn't rip sharick off. Stop it. This misdirection is unbecoming.

That trade with Daven is up in the air. Beanie's health is the wildcard.

You may not of ripped Moorehead off but it was a dumb move for Moorehead to make. Top 5 WR production out of graham this year. Thats the bottom line

The thought frightens me on how you would of reacted had I got that deal off on Sharick. Im pretty sure you wouldn't of had to think about that

Sharick would say I didn't rip him off. lol No misdirection here, just factual info.

Ripping someone off and valuing players for ones team is different. You may feel that MH made a bad trade but he likes it and felt he improves his team. Personally I think I got over on him but that doesn't mean I ripped him off and I would rather have Phillip than Stafford from here on out.

I would not have reacted anyway had you pulled that trade off because I don't react anymore. As far as I'm concerned every trade is fair and no one can say anything because we don't know how things will turn out. I thought Daven got taken to the cleaners and he won that trade to this point. I freaked out about Shocks trade with Bowe and Clark and it turns out he won that trade as well. I have learned my lesson with this whole trading thing. Unless it's late in the year and a 7-12 team makes a shady trade with a 1-6 team I will never say anything again. I did complain alot back in the day but I never will again regarding trades.

When the year is over we can look back at all this and see who really got ripped off vs made a great deal they thought would improve their team.


that was a weak misdirection, your not getting off the hook. Obviously if Sharick did the trade he doesn't think he got ripped off

Simple question: Did you or did you not rip Sharick off?

Im just putting u on the spot because well u did a great job capitalizing on the free value u got with Vick so that u could move Stafford.

Again I didn't say either of ur past two trades were rip offs, I just said it was a bad move for Moorehead to make. Theres a difference.

Just admit the truth, its time for you to be exposed for the trade shark you are. You deserve trade treatment like I get in here. Every year you have osme sort of big trade where u completely take somebody and EVERYBODY overlooks it. Then I get killed for handing two #1 WRs for a mid level fantasy starting QB who isn't living up and a 1a WR. This is an amber alert out on Lando - time for the truth to come. Your a sweet heart and a great guy, but when it comes to fantasy people give u a pass when trading

http://www.indiatarget.com/stills/slide_show/exposed1.jpg

[;)]



I am Honest Abe.

You are Gadahfi.

You can continue to try and trash my name and my trades but the good people of our league know I only make fair trades that benefit both teams. I would never rip someone off because I don't want my name tarnished.


the canuck agrees wtih me

its international now

you are exposed

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 01:16 PM
</p>


I want Romo....</p>


r

check your PM
</p>


</p>


responded.</p>

responded as well

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 01:21 PM
AB has broken bone in his foot? The mri earlier this week(Monday) revealed no damage, interesting. Anyway--time for the emergence of Scott. I hope he's versed on the starting playbook.

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 01:22 PM
offer sent Matt....I might lose a little but I like it.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:22 PM
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I thought they said everything was fine in the X Ray a couple days ago...

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:26 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</p>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</p>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</p>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </p>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </p>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</p>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</p>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</p>

u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall

http://www.allsandiegocomputerrepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/crying_baby.jpg

Stop it, lol. I pull **** like this every year cause my trades are fair and best for both teams. I can't help it if someone values my players more than I do and are willing to give up more than we might.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:28 PM
Great I get to play Lando's now even more loaded team this week.....hurray...I dunno what the point of drafting well is when these trades totally shift power....</p>


someone is gunna get a bargain on McFadden and Andre Johnson next week.</p>
The point of drafting well is to make these trades and improve your team. No one is shifting power at all. I feel like I still might have made the wrong decision but we'll see. McFadden will play next week so there is no reason to trade him. Andre probably won't play until week 12 so hit me up if you want to get rid of him.

Also, my team is weaker this week Shock. I lost my best WR and got lucky with your top 2 RB's out. I told you to get Bush from me for weeks.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 01:29 PM
offer sent Matt....I might lose a little but I like it.

whoa whoa

go to the PM

that isn't what we offered

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 01:30 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not sour grapes. This is just conversation

Just pointing out how you guys give me **** for trades I make, yet lando EVERY YEAR makes worse ripoff trades and hes always off the hook. His ability to grab this value was in his ability to give up peanuts to get Vick.

Pappy always cries and then goes and feeds Lando.

I still have yet to hear either of you guys apologize to Daven for the **** u gave him
</p>


My problem with your trade with Scrappy had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with Scrappy being willing to hurt his team simply because he didn't want to start a Cowboys QB.</p>


As it turned out, he hit the lottery with Newton and then Austin got hurt so in hindsight it seems like a good deal for him. But 9 out of 10 times that trade would hurt his team, which he was actually OK with.</p>


This trade should help me a lot because Rivers was costing me big time. I give up a top TE but get back a top QB. I would have prefered using Graham to also get me another WR but the deal is still a good one on average. </p>


But yes...it helps Lando too. Thats what happens when you trade with good players. </p>




but u took no issue with Vick getting traded for peanuts. This is whta im saying, while everybodies antennas are up about me, Lando benefits behind the scenes

I told you guys that I prob got the better end of that deal, but trading two clear cut #1 WRs 4 a middle of the pack starting QB &amp; 1A WR is fair deals
</p>


Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that.</p>


I whine the most to the ones I love.</p>

u do realize that Lando just got the top TE and top RB in the game and gave up a top 10 WR out of his starting lineup to do that. Just saying every year he pulls moves like this and I get the target on my back

#Wakeupcall

http://www.allsandiegocomputerrepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/crying_baby.jpg

Stop it, lol. I pull **** like this every year cause my trades are fair and best for both teams. I can't help it if someone values my players more than I do and are willing to give up more than we might.


the fact that u can't just admit it tells us all we need to know

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:34 PM
offer sent Matt....I might lose a little but I like it.
You are acting out of anger. Relax Shock. lol

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:37 PM
the fact that u can't just admit it tells us all we need to know

I admit that I got over on him. I didn't MMB the guy.

Should we just make a no trading policy? lol

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 01:38 PM
the fact that u can't just admit it tells us all we need to know

I admit that I got over on him. I didn't MMB the guy.

Should we just make a no trading policy? lol


your right, u didn't MMB him because everybody overhypes my rep that they would never even have those kind of talks with me

its awful

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 01:39 PM
offer sent Matt....I might lose a little but I like it.
You are acting out of anger. Relax Shock. lol


lol actually he just tried sending a trade wtih the biggest piece missing lol

but check ur PM shock, i think we'll get a diff deal done

byron
11-03-2011, 01:40 PM
I want you to tell me u didn't rip Sharick off

Ok, I didn't rip Sharick off. I think I did get over on him but it wasn't a "rip off". He valued Washington to pair with Matt ( which by the way he did beat me last week cause of Nates 2 TD's ) and got Matt Ryan.

Vick is Vick of course but by the end of the year it might not be as bad as you think. Hopefully it will.


OMG - STOP IT

its already very bad and it will probably look worse seeing as how Philly is getting hot

stop it. See? You guys crucify me because I keep it real and am honest, yet lando will live in denial and you SHEEP believe him!

#wakeupcall
I think I'm reaching a point where all trades go vote or let yahoo handle it tired of thearguing ...sorry.....</P>

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 01:43 PM
Daven offer sent.

sharick88
11-03-2011, 01:44 PM
I see some people are still a little disgruntled about my Vick trade. I got an avg qb and a rb that is on the come up. I would do it again if I had the chance. All I have to say is that I am 5-3 and in the middle of the pack even with a bunch of wr's that came straight from the free agency wire. There is a method to my madness. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Get at me when I am spending you guys' money on my heineken supply for the next fews months

sharick88
11-03-2011, 01:46 PM
BTW, Gates, Ingram, and Bradshaw are all available for the right price.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:50 PM
I see some people are still a little disgruntled about my Vick trade. I got an avg qb and a rb that is on the come up. I would do it again if I had the chance. All I have to say is that I am 5-3 and in the middle of the pack even with a bunch of wr's that came straight from the free agency wire. There is a method to my madness. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Get at me when I am spending you guys' money on my heineken supply for the next fews months
YEAH!!!

Except the last part ;)

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:52 PM
the fact that u can't just admit it tells us all we need to know

I admit that I got over on him. I didn't MMB the guy.

Should we just make a no trading policy? lol


your right, u didn't MMB him because everybody overhypes my rep that they would never even have those kind of talks with me

its awful


Years of abuse willl do that to people Dr.

sharick88
11-03-2011, 01:57 PM
I see some people are still a little disgruntled about my Vick trade. I got an avg qb and a rb that is on the come up. I would do it again if I had the chance. All I have to say is that I am 5-3 and in the middle of the pack even with a bunch of wr's that came straight from the free agency wire. There is a method to my madness. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Get at me when I am spending you guys' money on my heineken supply for the next fews months
YEAH!!!

Except the last part ;)
lol.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 01:57 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.

ny06
11-03-2011, 01:58 PM
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dezzzR
11-03-2011, 01:58 PM
ya know what grinds my gears?
http://blogs.989therock.com/files/2011/02/grinds-my-gears1.jpg
the stupid tweets espn puts up now on certain shows. omg some of the comments they put up. raaaachhhh!!!! puts me in a murderous rage.....and that america is what really grinds my gears....diane.

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 02:00 PM
I see some people are still a little disgruntled about my Vick trade. I got an avg qb and a rb that is on the come up. I</P>


</P>


thought it was Vick for Nate Washington...</P>


Matt that trade isn't good ....think I'll talk to MH bout Rivers now that he has STafford.</P>

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 02:03 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.</P>


</P>


we'll see how it all shakes out....a no-trading league would not be much fun but to be scrambling trying to get someone of value is frustrating ...lol</P>


good-luck this week anyway....injuries have ended my chance this season....like Blondies last year...</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:04 PM
I see some people are still a little disgruntled about my Vick trade. I got an avg qb and a rb that is on the come up. I would do it again if I had the chance. All I have to say is that I am 5-3 and in the middle of the pack even with a bunch of wr's that came straight from the free agency wire. There is a method to my madness. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Get at me when I am spending you guys' money on my heineken supply for the next fews months

lol

we love u sharick

but that was a bad deal... and its more knocking Lando than anything else. He is holier than thou when talking baout other trades, but he bested u there. Matt Ryan is playing pitiful

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:04 PM
And just so you know sir, it was...

Matt Ryan and Nasty Nate Washington ( after Britt went down ).

For #7

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:06 PM
BTW, Gates, Ingram, and Bradshaw are all available for the right price.

if this deal doesn't go thru with S&amp;A i'll hit u up

what position u looking for?

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:06 PM
the fact that u can't just admit it tells us all we need to know

I admit that I got over on him. I didn't MMB the guy.

Should we just make a no trading policy? lol


your right, u didn't MMB him because everybody overhypes my rep that they would never even have those kind of talks with me

its awful


Years of abuse willl do that to people Dr.

hence why its time to expose u

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:07 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.

if everybody put as much time into making trades for this league as u do we would all have 5 or 6 trades lol.... ur not making them because ur so fair

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:08 PM
<div class="tweet-content">
<div class="tweet-row"><span class="tweet-user-name"><font color="#667766">AdamSchefter</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter)<span class="tweet-full-name">Adam Schefter</span></span>
<div class="tweet-corner">
<div class="tweet-meta"><span class="icons">
<div class="extra-icons"><span class="inlinemedia-icons js-icon-container"></span></div></span></div></div></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text js-tweet-text">Person familar with Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's injury texted this: "Not serious injury - should play Sunday. No surgery (needed)."</div></div></div>

i can't take this confusion!

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 02:09 PM
And just so you know sir, it was... Matt Ryan and Nasty Nate Washington ( after Britt went down ). For #7</P>


</P>


Oh that's not that horrible than...even though Ryan stinks all of a sudden.</P>


U had 2 great Qb's and used MH's troubles with Rivers led to a great trade for u and hopefully MH too...I get it.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:09 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.</p>


</p>


we'll see how it all shakes out....a no-trading league would not be much fun but to be scrambling trying to get someone of value is frustrating ...lol</p>


good-luck this week anyway....injuries have ended my chance this season....like Blondies last year...</p>


</p>

i tried squeezing u on that last offer

i sent my final and last fair one

if its no, then good talking wtih u sir

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:10 PM
And just so you know sir, it was... Matt Ryan and Nasty Nate Washington ( after Britt went down ). For #7</p>


</p>


Oh that's not that horrible than...even though Ryan stinks all of a sudden.</p>


U had 2 great Qb's and used MH's troubles with Rivers led to a great trade for u and hopefully MH too...I get it.</p>

yea i didn't say THAT trade was lopsided, I said it was just a stupid move for moorehead to make. He was better off pre-trade

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:10 PM
<div class="tweet-content">
<div class="tweet-row"><span class="tweet-user-name"><font color="#667766">AdamSchefter</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter)<span class="tweet-full-name">Adam Schefter</span></span>
<div class="tweet-corner">
<div class="tweet-meta"><span class="icons">
<div class="extra-icons"><span class="inlinemedia-icons js-icon-container"></span></div></span></div></div></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text js-tweet-text">Person familar with Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's injury texted this: "Not serious injury - should play Sunday. No surgery (needed)."</div></div></div>

i can't take this confusion!

It's really annoying.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:13 PM
<div class="tweet-content">
<div class="tweet-row"><span class="tweet-user-name"><font color="#667766">AdamSchefter</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter)<span class="tweet-full-name">Adam Schefter</span></span>
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<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text js-tweet-text">Person familar with Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's injury texted this: "Not serious injury - should play Sunday. No surgery (needed)."</div></div></div>

i can't take this confusion!

It's really annoying.


i'm already Da'Rell Scott'd up in my fantasy leagues lol

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:14 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.

if everybody put as much time into making trades for this league as u do we would all have 5 or 6 trades lol.... ur not making them because ur so fair

Man, you really have it out for me today. Not sure why but it's ok. I still luuuuv you.

You act like I spend all day every day looking at it. You're cute. I make trades because it makes my team better. I don't offer things to people I don't think they would accept because it's insulting to someones intelligence. We all know this game very well and the players who play it. Except Dez. [;)]

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 02:15 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.</P>


</P>


we'll see how it all shakes out....a no-trading league would not be much fun but to be scrambling trying to get someone of value is frustrating ...lol</P>


good-luck this week anyway....injuries have ended my chance this season....like Blondies last year...</P>


</P>




i tried squeezing u on that last offer

i sent my final and last fair one

if its no, then good talking wtih u sir
</P>


</P>


I love Romo going forward but not that much...plus I would have to get Peterson and Rodgers just to make the Playoffs this season anyway so I might as well call it a season.</P>

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:16 PM
And just so you know sir, it was... Matt Ryan and Nasty Nate Washington ( after Britt went down ). For #7</p>


</p>


Oh that's not that horrible than...even though Ryan stinks all of a sudden.</p>


U had 2 great Qb's and used MH's troubles with Rivers led to a great trade for u and hopefully MH too...I get it.</p>
I like Rivers more than Stafford from here on out. What happened in the past is irrelevant. It's all about what happens from here on out. That is another great thing about making trades. If you think someone will kill it in the 2nd half then go get them.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:17 PM
good-luck this week anyway....injuries have ended my chance this season....like Blondies last year...


</p>
I disagree. This week might hurt but you will be fine. You are right in the middle of the pack. It's going to come down to the last week of the year. Your team is really good Shock. Just 2 weeks ago you were bragging about Mathews. When Andre comes back it will be real nice, sucks it's taking so long.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:17 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.</p>


</p>


we'll see how it all shakes out....a no-trading league would not be much fun but to be scrambling trying to get someone of value is frustrating ...lol</p>


good-luck this week anyway....injuries have ended my chance this season....like Blondies last year...</p>


</p>




i tried squeezing u on that last offer

i sent my final and last fair one

if its no, then good talking wtih u sir
</p>


</p>


I love Romo going forward but not that much...plus I would have to get Peterson and Rodgers just to make the Playoffs this season anyway so I might as well call it a season.</p>

lol its the same deal u offered me

crazy canucks dont know if they ar ecoming or going

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 02:18 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.

if everybody put as much time into making trades for this league as u do we would all have 5 or 6 trades lol.... ur not making them because ur so fair

Man, you really have it out for me today. Not sure why but it's ok. I still luuuuv you.

You act like I spend all day every day looking at it. You're cute. I make trades because it makes my team better. I don't offer things to people I don't think they would accept because it's insulting to someones intelligence. We all know this game very well and the players who play it. Except Dez. [;)]
you guys want to talk about getting royally ****ed. i have hillis, hightower, AND mcfadden. my seasons DONE.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:19 PM
And just so you know sir, it was... Matt Ryan and Nasty Nate Washington ( after Britt went down ). For #7</p>


</p>


Oh that's not that horrible than...even though Ryan stinks all of a sudden.</p>


U had 2 great Qb's and used MH's troubles with Rivers led to a great trade for u and hopefully MH too...I get it.</p>
I like Rivers more than Stafford from here on out. What happened in the past is irrelevant. It's all about what happens from here on out. That is another great thing about making trades. If you think someone will kill it in the 2nd half then go get them.



Rivers is hurt, he can barely throw. Hes done this year...
but still he could of produce enough to keep it close and make Jimmy Graham fill the rest of the void

plus spot starting Flacco

bad moves by Pappy

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:19 PM
good-luck this week anyway....injuries have ended my chance this season....like Blondies last year...


</p>
I disagree. This week might hurt but you will be fine. You are right in the middle of the pack. It's going to come down to the last week of the year. Your team is really good Shock. Just 2 weeks ago you were bragging about Mathews. When Andre comes back it will be real nice, sucks it's taking so long.


Mathews is doubtful this week

shocknaweny
11-03-2011, 02:20 PM
good-luck this week anyway....injuries have ended my chance this season....like Blondies last year...


</P>



I disagree. This week might hurt but you will be fine. You are right in the middle of the pack. It's going to come down to the last week of the year. Your team is really good Shock. Just 2 weeks ago you were bragging about Mathews. When Andre comes back it will be real nice, sucks it's taking so long.
</P>


</P>


once I am 3-6 I will be finished...lol</P>


Andre not coming back last week and Matthews playing like a little ***** ended my season.</P>


Plus I don't think I ever got to play anybody with BYE week issues....every time I get them all their players are back form the BYE ....hahahahha</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 02:20 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.

if everybody put as much time into making trades for this league as u do we would all have 5 or 6 trades lol.... ur not making them because ur so fair

Man, you really have it out for me today. Not sure why but it's ok. I still luuuuv you.

You act like I spend all day every day looking at it. You're cute. I make trades because it makes my team better. I don't offer things to people I don't think they would accept because it's insulting to someones intelligence. We all know this game very well and the players who play it. Except Dez. [;)]


I JUST WANT THE TRUTH!!!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mkQODQfOMic/TPXQYsa4TZI/AAAAAAAAAWE/f4JSGZA2Yec/s1600/You+Can%2527t+Handle+the+Truth.jpg

AND YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:22 PM
And just so you know sir, it was... Matt Ryan and Nasty Nate Washington ( after Britt went down ). For #7</p>


</p>


Oh that's not that horrible than...even though Ryan stinks all of a sudden.</p>


U had 2 great Qb's and used MH's troubles with Rivers led to a great trade for u and hopefully MH too...I get it.</p>

yea i didn't say THAT trade was lopsided, I said it was just a stupid move for moorehead to make. He was better off pre-trade

I think so to, but I can see why he did it. Just too worried about Phillip.

ny06
11-03-2011, 02:23 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.

if everybody put as much time into making trades for this league as u do we would all have 5 or 6 trades lol.... ur not making them because ur so fair

Man, you really have it out for me today. Not sure why but it's ok. I still luuuuv you.

You act like I spend all day every day looking at it. You're cute. I make trades because it makes my team better. I don't offer things to people I don't think they would accept because it's insulting to someones intelligence. We all know this game very well and the players who play it. Except Dez. [;)]
you guys want to talk about getting royally ****ed. i have hillis, hightower, AND mcfadden. my seasons DONE.
</P>


Speaking of Hillis. </P>


More drama for Peyton Hillis after he skips kids charity event (http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2011/11/03/more-drama-for-peyton-hillis-after-he-skips-kids-charity-event/)</P>


</P>

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:23 PM
i'm already Da'Rell Scott'd up in my fantasy leagues lol

<font color="#FF0000" size="6">FEAR THE TURTLE!!!</font>

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 02:24 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.

if everybody put as much time into making trades for this league as u do we would all have 5 or 6 trades lol.... ur not making them because ur so fair

Man, you really have it out for me today. Not sure why but it's ok. I still luuuuv you.

You act like I spend all day every day looking at it. You're cute. I make trades because it makes my team better. I don't offer things to people I don't think they would accept because it's insulting to someones intelligence. We all know this game very well and the players who play it. Except Dez. [;)]
you guys want to talk about getting royally ****ed. i have hillis, hightower, AND mcfadden. my seasons DONE.
</p>


Speaking of Hillis. </p>


More drama for Peyton Hillis after he skips kids charity event (http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2011/11/03/more-drama-for-peyton-hillis-after-he-skips-kids-charity-event/)</p>


</p>what the hells wrong with this guy man?...

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:26 PM
good-luck this week anyway....injuries have ended my chance this season....like Blondies last year...


</p>



I disagree. This week might hurt but you will be fine. You are right in the middle of the pack. It's going to come down to the last week of the year. Your team is really good Shock. Just 2 weeks ago you were bragging about Mathews. When Andre comes back it will be real nice, sucks it's taking so long.
</p>


</p>


once I am 3-6 I will be finished...lol</p>


Andre not coming back last week and Matthews playing like a little ***** ended my season.</p>


Plus I don't think I ever got to play anybody with BYE week issues....every time I get them all their players are back form the BYE ....hahahahha</p>


</p>
I don't see why you are being such a Debbie Downer. You could beat me this week Shock. It's the beautiful part about this game. Jennings is going to have a huge day and I don't have AP so there is a break. If CJ takes another turd like he probably will then you are right in it. Just don't give up yet. Trust me. You will be in it at the end.

We could always make a trade [;)]

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:27 PM
<div class="report">


A "person familiar" with Ahmad Bradshaw
(foot) tells ESPN's Adam Schefter Bradshaw's injury is "not serious" and
he "should play Sunday."</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Bradshaw himself has lent the report some
credence, telling the New York Daily News it's "not out of the question"
he plays against the Patriots. Coach Tom Coughlin is expected to update
the situation after practice. Schefter rarely misses, so for now
consider the situation fluid. If Bradshaw does play, it would almost
certainly be in a limited capacity.
</div>

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 02:33 PM
<div class="report">


<u>A "person familiar" with Ahmad Bradshaw
(foot)</u> tells ESPN's Adam Schefter Bradshaw's injury is "not serious" and
he "should play Sunday."</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Bradshaw himself has lent the report some
credence, telling the New York Daily News it's "not out of the question"
he plays against the Patriots. Coach Tom Coughlin is expected to update
the situation after practice. Schefter rarely misses, so for now
consider the situation fluid. If Bradshaw does play, it would almost
certainly be in a limited capacity.
</div>hope its not rex ryan.

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 02:40 PM
<div class="tweet-content">
<div class="tweet-row"><span class="tweet-user-name"><font color="#667766">AdamSchefter</font> (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter)<span class="tweet-full-name">Adam Schefter</span></span>
<div class="tweet-corner">
<div class="tweet-meta"><span class="icons">
<div class="extra-icons"><span class="inlinemedia-icons js-icon-container"></span></div></span></div></div></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text js-tweet-text">Person familar with Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw's injury texted this: "Not serious injury - should play Sunday. No surgery (needed)."</div></div></div>

i can't take this confusion!

It's really annoying.


i'm already Da'Rell Scott'd up in my fantasy leagues lol
Nice move

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 02:42 PM
I have made trades with 5 or 6 teams in this league. There is a reason for that and its not because I am shady or take advantage of people.

if everybody put as much time into making trades for this league as u do we would all have 5 or 6 trades lol.... ur not making them because ur so fair

Man, you really have it out for me today. Not sure why but it's ok. I still luuuuv you.

You act like I spend all day every day looking at it. You're cute. I make trades because it makes my team better. I don't offer things to people I don't think they would accept because it's insulting to someones intelligence. We all know this game very well and the players who play it. Except Dez. [;)]
you guys want to talk about getting royally ****ed. i have hillis, hightower, AND mcfadden. my seasons DONE.
</p>


Speaking of Hillis. </p>


More drama for Peyton Hillis after he skips kids charity event (http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2011/11/03/more-drama-for-peyton-hillis-after-he-skips-kids-charity-event/)</p>


</p>what the hells wrong with this guy man?...
Very soon he is going to start doing his interviews with his helmet on with the dark sunshade over his eyes. lol

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 02:43 PM
<div class="report">


Texans coach Gary Kubiak said Thursday that
Andre Johnson (hamstring) is "feeling better," and will likely be a
game-time decision against the Browns.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The Texans have yet to release Thursday's
practice report, but Kubiak's words are encouraging after Johnson sat
out on Wednesday. Johnson should be listed as questionable on tomorrow's
injury report, and will likely be a true game-time call. With the
Texans playing at 1:00 ET, you won't be forced to sit or start Johnson
based on partial information.

<div class="report">


Darren McFadden (foot) did not participate in Raiders practice Thursday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
McFadden appears to be targeting Week 10 for
his return. He'll be just two weeks removed from his mid-foot sprain
when the Raiders take on the Broncos Sunday and this kind of injury
generally needs 2-4 weeks of recovery time. Michael Bush projects as a
workhorse this week and is our No. 14 running back play.

<div class="report">


Hakeem Nicks (hamstring) was not participating at Giants practice Thursday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Nicks is not trending in the right direction.
He's now missed two straight days of practice and Newsday's Bob Glauber
believes Nicks will not be ready in time for Sunday's game against the
Patriots. It's possible he'll end up as a game-time call. Either way,
Mario Manningham and Victor Cruz are excellent WR2 plays as the Giants
figure to go pass heavy.</div>
</div>
</div>

lttaylor56
11-03-2011, 02:44 PM
I heard that Suh from the Lions met with the commissioner earlier this week to discuss his play that has cost him @ 40k in fines this season.

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 02:47 PM
<div class="report">


Texans coach Gary Kubiak said Thursday that
Andre Johnson (hamstring) is "feeling better," and will likely be a
game-time decision against the Browns.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The Texans have yet to release Thursday's
practice report, but Kubiak's words are encouraging after Johnson sat
out on Wednesday. Johnson should be listed as questionable on tomorrow's
injury report, and will likely be a true game-time call. With the
Texans playing at 1:00 ET, you won't be forced to sit or start Johnson
based on partial information.

<div class="report">


Darren McFadden (foot) did not participate in Raiders practice Thursday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
McFadden appears to be targeting Week 10 for
his return. He'll be just two weeks removed from his mid-foot sprain
when the Raiders take on the Broncos Sunday and this kind of injury
generally needs 2-4 weeks of recovery time. Michael Bush projects as a
workhorse this week and is our No. 14 running back play.

<div class="report">


Hakeem Nicks (hamstring) was not participating at Giants practice Thursday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Nicks is not trending in the right direction.
He's now missed two straight days of practice and Newsday's Bob Glauber
believes Nicks will not be ready in time for Sunday's game against the
Patriots. It's possible he'll end up as a game-time call. <u>Either way,
Mario Manningham and Victor Cruz are excellent WR2 plays as the Giants
figure to go pass heavy.</u></div>
</div>
</div>i hope we see jj.

DavenIII
11-03-2011, 03:05 PM
Lando was a pleasure to deal with, (if a bit slow and wishy washy :P)

Matt, I don't think you intend to rip people off, but you do try to get a trade that is as good for you as possible and thus start off with REALLY REALLY REALLY bad offers....you need to be whittled down offer after offer....and the best you can hope for is a trade that only marginally favors you....because you always over value your players.

there's nothing wrong with that though...it's just different...the problem arises when people who might not know what they are doing don't whittle you down...take the first offer you throw out there.

but in my opinion that's their own damn fault....not yours.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 03:09 PM
The decision of Colts quarterback Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) to show up unannounced and meet with the media (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/03/peyton-manning-says-his-neck-still-hasnt-healed/)
included a comment about the recent ridiculous remarks from Phil Simms
of CBS and Showtime that Manning won’t “let” the Colts draft Stanford
quarterback Andrew Luck.</p>


“I don’t talk to Phil,” Manning said, via Phillip B. Wilson of the Indianapolis Star.
“Phil doesn’t talk to me. He did text me after that, saying ‘Hey,
sorry to drag your name into this.’ I wrote back, ‘Phil I don’t know
what you’re talking about.’ He said, ‘Well on my show, Inside the NFL, I made this statement.’ I said, ‘Phil, I hate to break it to you, but I don’t watch your show (http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2011/11/03/straight-talk-what-colts-qb-peyton-manning-said-today/),
along with a lot of other people that I don’t think watch that show.’
Giving himself a little more credit than probably was merited.”</p>


Damn.</p>

dezzzR
11-03-2011, 03:18 PM
via twitter: MikeGarafolo: Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul was added to the
injury report as limited with a neck injury. No idea at this point what
that's about. #nyg

whaaaat the ****!?

DavenIII
11-03-2011, 03:20 PM
PM Shocks.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 03:42 PM
Lando was a pleasure to deal with, (if a bit slow and wishy washy :P)

Matt, I don't think you intend to rip people off, but you do try to get a trade that is as good for you as possible and thus start off with REALLY REALLY REALLY bad offers....you need to be whittled down offer after offer....and the best you can hope for is a trade that only marginally favors you....because you always over value your players.

there's nothing wrong with that though...it's just different...the problem arises when people who might not know what they are doing don't whittle you down...take the first offer you throw out there.

but in my opinion that's their own damn fault....not yours.


it doesn't matter HOW i negotiate. If I remember correctly our trade was done with one counteroffer.

Regardless, Lando totally rips someone off every year (see Vick) and he always gets a pass for it.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 03:44 PM
The decision of Colts quarterback Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) to show up unannounced and meet with the media (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/03/peyton-manning-says-his-neck-still-hasnt-healed/)
included a comment about the recent ridiculous remarks from Phil Simms
of CBS and Showtime that Manning won’t “let” the Colts draft Stanford
quarterback Andrew Luck.</p>


“I don’t talk to Phil,” Manning said, via Phillip B. Wilson of the Indianapolis Star.
“Phil doesn’t talk to me. He did text me after that, saying ‘Hey,
sorry to drag your name into this.’ I wrote back, ‘Phil I don’t know
what you’re talking about.’ He said, ‘Well on my show, Inside the NFL, I made this statement.’ I said, ‘Phil, I hate to break it to you, but I don’t watch your show (http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2011/11/03/straight-talk-what-colts-qb-peyton-manning-said-today/),
along with a lot of other people that I don’t think watch that show.’
Giving himself a little more credit than probably was merited.”</p>


Damn.</p>

lol by his cattyness - he did see the show

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 03:45 PM
via twitter: MikeGarafolo: Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul was added to the
injury report as limited with a neck injury. No idea at this point what
that's about. #nyg

whaaaat the ****!?


typical giants football

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 04:12 PM
Lando was a pleasure to deal with, (if a bit slow and wishy washy :P)

Matt, I don't think you intend to rip people off, but you do try to get a trade that is as good for you as possible and thus start off with REALLY REALLY REALLY bad offers....you need to be whittled down offer after offer....and the best you can hope for is a trade that only marginally favors you....because you always over value your players.

there's nothing wrong with that though...it's just different...the problem arises when people who might not know what they are doing don't whittle you down...take the first offer you throw out there.

but in my opinion that's their own damn fault....not yours.


it doesn't matter HOW i negotiate. If I remember correctly our trade was done with one counteroffer.

Regardless, Lando totally rips someone off every year (see Vick) and he always gets a pass for it.



Not see Vick, it wasn't a rip off. In your mind it was but Shock and MH both said it wasn't that bad. A trade can still be vetoed if too many people feel the same way. People barely batted an eye at that.

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 04:15 PM
The decision of Colts quarterback Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) to show up unannounced and meet with the media (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/03/peyton-manning-says-his-neck-still-hasnt-healed/) included a comment about the recent ridiculous remarks from Phil Simms of CBS and Showtime that Manning won’t “let” the Colts draft Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.</P>


“I don’t talk to Phil,” Manning said, via Phillip B. Wilson of the Indianapolis Star. “Phil doesn’t talk to me. He did text me after that, saying ‘Hey, sorry to drag your name into this.’ I wrote back, ‘Phil I don’t know what you’re talking about.’ He said, ‘Well on my show, Inside the NFL, I made this statement.’ I said, ‘Phil, I hate to break it to you, but I don’t watch your show (http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2011/11/03/straight-talk-what-colts-qb-peyton-manning-said-today/), along with a lot of other people that I don’t think watch that show.’ Giving himself a little more credit than probably was merited.”</P>


Damn.</P>




lol by his cattyness - he did see the show
</P>


You **** with Phil...... you **** with Morehead!</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 04:17 PM
Lando was a pleasure to deal with, (if a bit slow and wishy washy :P)

Matt, I don't think you intend to rip people off, but you do try to get a trade that is as good for you as possible and thus start off with REALLY REALLY REALLY bad offers....you need to be whittled down offer after offer....and the best you can hope for is a trade that only marginally favors you....because you always over value your players.

there's nothing wrong with that though...it's just different...the problem arises when people who might not know what they are doing don't whittle you down...take the first offer you throw out there.

but in my opinion that's their own damn fault....not yours.


it doesn't matter HOW i negotiate. If I remember correctly our trade was done with one counteroffer.

Regardless, Lando totally rips someone off every year (see Vick) and he always gets a pass for it.



Not see Vick, it wasn't a rip off. In your mind it was but Shock and MH both said it wasn't that bad. A trade can still be vetoed if too many people feel the same way. People barely batted an eye at that.


and the lies continue

"Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that." - Moorehead

and then Shock said that the trade you made with Moorehead wasn't a bad trade - not the trade for Vick

anything else you want to try twist around? I believe my mission was accomplished. The league now realizes the type of swindler you are!

#missionaccomplished

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 04:18 PM
The decision of Colts quarterback Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) to show up unannounced and meet with the media (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/03/peyton-manning-says-his-neck-still-hasnt-healed/) included a comment about the recent ridiculous remarks from Phil Simms of CBS and Showtime that Manning won’t “let” the Colts draft Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.</p>


“I don’t talk to Phil,” Manning said, via Phillip B. Wilson of the Indianapolis Star. “Phil doesn’t talk to me. He did text me after that, saying ‘Hey, sorry to drag your name into this.’ I wrote back, ‘Phil I don’t know what you’re talking about.’ He said, ‘Well on my show, Inside the NFL, I made this statement.’ I said, ‘Phil, I hate to break it to you, but I don’t watch your show (http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2011/11/03/straight-talk-what-colts-qb-peyton-manning-said-today/), along with a lot of other people that I don’t think watch that show.’ Giving himself a little more credit than probably was merited.”</p>


Damn.</p>




lol by his cattyness - he did see the show
</p>


You **** with Phil...... you **** with Morehead!</p>

do u have Showtime? Inside the NFL is great

hes tlaking some **** about Luck, everybody is calling him crazy. I kind of hope Luck doesn't pan out just so everybody can blow Phil

EDIT: .... like their name was moorehead

DavenIII
11-03-2011, 04:19 PM
Are these trades ever going to go through I'm dying to set my lineup already lol.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 04:23 PM
Are these trades ever going to go through I'm dying to set my lineup already lol.


blondie wasn't in the office today she wa son the road

i'll make sure she does it tonight

sharick88
11-03-2011, 04:38 PM
BTW, Gates, Ingram, and Bradshaw are all available for the right price.

if this deal doesn't go thru with S&A i'll hit u up

what position u looking for?

Another RB and/or some help at WR

sharick88
11-03-2011, 04:41 PM
I see some people are still a little disgruntled about my Vick trade. I got an avg qb and a rb that is on the come up. I</P>


*</P>


thought it was Vick for Nate Washington...</P>


Matt that trade isn't good ....think I'll talk to MH bout Rivers now that he has STafford.</P>
Wait a minute. It was for Matt Ryan and Nate Washington, right after Britt got hurt. Lando and I made a deal for Fitzgerald and Stephen Jackson. My bad

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 04:42 PM
Did u guys see that **** about that Judge William Adams? He beeat his daughter and she got it on tape it put it on youtube...

kind of rough to watch, but great to know that piece of **** is getting his

last seen with a piece of luggage and a shot gun fleeing his home. Hope somebody takes him out

everybody watch it except daven. I don't want him to tell me im a liberal cuz a piece of **** like that is still breathing

SEC105
11-03-2011, 04:49 PM
I had given my tickets to my kids tothe "Thee Game" [Buffalo]months ago.......So I got tickets to the Buffalo game the night Saturday night before thee game from a friend who had somebody cancel....any way....where wereyou guys on this map tailgating....spent well over an hour working our waynorth to the race track....L parking area.....every row of tailgaters with no luck finding you guys</P>


wanted to get Lando into the lower bowl [if he was not there already]and wish MMB happy birthday</P>


http://www.bigcityclassic.com/images/2011_bcc-stadium-parking.jpg</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 04:51 PM
I had given my tickets to my kids tothe "Thee Game" [Buffalo]months ago.......So I got tickets to the Buffalo game the night Saturday night before thee game from a friend who had somebody cancel....any way....where wereyou guys on this map tailgating....spent well over an hour working our waynorth to the race track....L parking area.....every row of tailgaters with no luck finding you guys</p>


wanted to get Lando into the lower bowl [if he was not there already]and wish MMB happy birthday</p>


http://www.bigcityclassic.com/images/2011_bcc-stadium-parking.jpg</p>

ahh damn we were in the M section right in front of the stables

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 04:52 PM
sharick sent u a fbook message

DavenIII
11-03-2011, 04:53 PM
Did u guys see that **** about that Judge William Adams? He beeat his daughter and she got it on tape it put it on youtube...

kind of rough to watch, but great to know that piece of **** is getting his

last seen with a piece of luggage and a shot gun fleeing his home. Hope somebody takes him out

everybody watch it except daven. I don't want him to tell me im a liberal cuz a piece of **** like that is still breathing


Ummm Matt...I use reddit...I saw it this morning, she was a reddit user she posted it there first there was a push from the Reddit Website to get it into the mainstream media.

Yes he went WAY to far, I mean I was hit when I was a kid, but hew went WAY to far...especially considering she is disabled as well, and it's a girl...when I was a 15-17 year old bratty kid I deserved it....she got it for downloading something she wasn't supposed to? it's terrible...I don't wish him "physical harm" but he certainly deserves some sort of punishment and does not deserve the position of Judge.

That said this took place 7 years ago so I worry about the statue of limitations.

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 04:56 PM
Did u guys see that **** about that Judge William Adams? He beeat his daughter and she got it on tape it put it on youtube...

kind of rough to watch, but great to know that piece of **** is getting his

last seen with a piece of luggage and a shot gun fleeing his home. Hope somebody takes him out

everybody watch it except daven. I don't want him to tell me im a liberal cuz a piece of **** like that is still breathing


Ummm Matt...I use reddit...I saw it this morning, she was a reddit user she posted it there first there was a push from the Reddit Website to get it into the mainstream media.

Yes he went WAY to far, I mean I was hit when I was a kid, but hew went WAY to far...especially considering she is disabled as well, and it's a girl...when I was a 15-17 year old bratty kid I deserved it....she got it for downloading something she wasn't supposed to? it's terrible...I don't wish him "physical harm" but he certainly deserves some sort of punishment and does not deserve the position of Judge.

That said this took place 7 years ago so I worry about the statue of limitations.


theres a difference between gettin the ol *** whippin and doin what this guy did, i agree. Also, i dunno, shes a she. Its hard to swallow, especially for the reasoning.

I hope he gets his teeth kicked in

MattMeyerBud
11-03-2011, 04:57 PM
"i didn't get my lickens in"

lol ****in hick ***got

DavenIII
11-03-2011, 05:02 PM
theres a difference between gettin the ol *** whippin and doin what this guy did, i agree. Also, i dunno, shes a she. Its hard to swallow, especially for the reasoning.

I hope he gets his teeth kicked in


her tag name is <span class="screen-name screen-name-shoeofallcosmos pill">shoeofallcosmos on Reddit she did a AMA thing on there....(it's where people ask questions and she answers em)

It's tough to watch I'll give you that, but I don't know, I'm not entirely against a little whooping when it comes to discipline....I suppose that's because I got it...but he definitely went over board almost to the point were he enjoyed doing it...it's ruff to watch especially for all 7 minutes.
</span>

SEC105
11-03-2011, 05:04 PM
I had given my tickets to my kids tothe "Thee Game" [Buffalo]months ago.......So I got tickets to the Buffalo game the night Saturday night before thee game from a friend who had somebody cancel....any way....where wereyou guys on this map tailgating....spent well over an hour working our waynorth to the race track....L parking area.....every row of tailgaters with no luck finding you guys</P>


wanted to get Lando into the lower bowl [if he was not there already]and wish MMB happy birthday</P>


http://www.bigcityclassic.com/images/2011_bcc-stadium-parking.jpg</P>




ahh damn we were in the M section right in front of the stables


</P>


I must have just missedyou.....did not check heavily the north side ofM.....look like the cars had special passes in there an we fiqured you guys had regular passes</P>


Soooooo......did youall have a great time? I'm gonna guess......... YES lol</P>


Also went down outside the Stadium at halftime with no luck in finding you guys</P>

DavenIII
11-03-2011, 05:04 PM
"i didn't get my lickens in"

lol ****in hick ***got


the best/worst is when the mother drags her up and says "take it like the 16 year old women you are" or something to that effect.

Time to head home later THEE Thread.

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 05:36 PM
"Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that." - Moorehead


Morehead...

Did you hate the trade but you didn't feel like MMB'd him?

or

You hated the trade because you think I MMB'd him?

sharick88
11-03-2011, 06:13 PM
sharick sent u a fbook message

Checked it out. Whenever you're ready to make that deal, go ahead and send it. I will approve it as soon as I get home

Morehead State
11-03-2011, 07:37 PM
"Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that." - Moorehead


Morehead...

Did you hate the trade but you didn't feel like MMB'd him?

or

You hated the trade because you think I MMB'd him?
</P>


Actually I didn't get it from your perspective. You had Stafford and he was lighting it up. You can't play both guys. But I thought it was a dumb trade by Sharick. He announced that Vick was on the trading block and you jumped on it. Ours was one of the few FF leagues probably where both Vick and Stafford weren't in starting lineups.</P>

byron
11-03-2011, 10:16 PM
I'm gonna end my day with this </P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>SHUT UP AND PLAY THE GAME !!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


with love B</P>

bigblue4417
11-03-2011, 11:19 PM
"Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that." - Moorehead


Morehead...

Did you hate the trade but you didn't feel like MMB'd him?

or

You hated the trade because you think I MMB'd him?
</p>


Actually I didn't get it from your perspective. You had Stafford and he was lighting it up. You can't play both guys. But I thought it was a dumb trade by Sharick. He announced that Vick was on the trading block and you jumped on it. Ours was one of the few FF leagues probably where both Vick and Stafford weren't in starting lineups.</p>
Well sounds to me like you don't think I ripped him off so what is your argument now Meyerbud. You are the only person in the league that feels that way.

I didn't MMB the guy...

MattMeyerBud
11-04-2011, 08:44 AM
"Actually I hated that trade but I don't know Sharick that well and wasn't comfortable calling him out on that." - Moorehead


Morehead...

Did you hate the trade but you didn't feel like MMB'd him?

or

You hated the trade because you think I MMB'd himi?
</p>


Actually I didn't get it from your perspective. You had Stafford and he was lighting it up. You can't play both guys. But I thought it was a dumb trade by Sharick. He announced that Vick was on the trading block and you jumped on it. Ours was one of the few FF leagues probably where both Vick and Stafford weren't in starting lineups.</p>
Well sounds to me like you don't think I ripped him off so what is your argument now Meyerbud. You are the only person in the league that feels that way.

I didn't MMB the guy...


if my trade with Daven with Romo is considering "MMB'ing" then what u did is undefined

I traded two top 5 round, #1 WRs for a 4th-6th mid range QB and a 1A WR

you traded a QB that goes mid to late and waiver wire pickup, who even with Britt down has never shown any major capabilities for a top 5 overall pick. Nate is palying better than I could of ever imagined, but even still hes lucky to be in top 15-20 production and would be he falls out of the top 25. Vick is gonna finsih top 5 in QBs and only held back because of injury so far this year.

CMON MAN

MattMeyerBud
11-04-2011, 08:45 AM
and i must say i'm disappointed with Pats this week:

1) He starts off with a kick *** Ted Williams story then vanishes

2) Week of Giants-Pats and theres no trash talking?!

3) I want to talk trade with him but hes never around!

MattMeyerBud
11-04-2011, 09:19 AM
hahaha hey dezz - Bob Papa just made me thinking of you

hes talkin about the Giants - Pats game and how everybody is going to have to step up recieving wise with Nicks down. He goes "And is Beckum going to get his second catch of the year?"

lol you should of taken the out of that bet when u had the chance

lttaylor56
11-04-2011, 09:24 AM
I'm gonna end my day with this </p>


</p>


</p>


<font color="#0000ff">SHUT UP AND PLAY THE GAME !!!!</font></p>


</p>


with love B</p>[Y]

lttaylor56
11-04-2011, 09:27 AM
hahaha hey dezz - Bob Papa just made me thinking of you

hes talkin about the Giants - Pats game and how everybody is going to have to step up recieving wise with Nicks down. He goes "And is Beckum going to get his second catch of the year?"

lol you should of taken the out of that bet when u had the chance
ha-We'll see about Beckum? Every team has injuries, we are going to have to step up in the face of adversity against a very good, but beatable football team. Scott better get the job done on the ground.

I know we play better as dogs, but wtf is the deal with having the same 5/2 record as your opponent and vegas gives 8.5 pts to the home team? Slap in the face, I say...hopefully we use as fuel for the fire.