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Morehead State
11-10-2011, 01:38 PM
Joe Pa was in a rare position to do something important to stop it and took a pass. We can only speculate as to why.

Jesus ****ing Christ what is wrong with you.....

McQueary was the one in the rare position to do something about it, Calhoun was in the rare position to do something about it.

Joe Pa was told a freaking story and he passed it along, should he have followed up on it, of course...and he didn't so that's his bad....but McQueary and Calhoun are the ones who actually witnessed the crime...how do they let that happen...how do they not go to the cops...
</P>


Stop with the "story" thing.</P>


He told Paterno what he had seen. He should have insisted he go to the police and gone with him.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 01:38 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>


The Steve Smith convo in the other thread is much more enjoyable. </p>

i think daven was trying to make a point rather than really saying that though.


What else is there to say, Morehead and Lando are hardcore defending people who choose not to stop a rape in progress and also choose not to go to the cops with it....

if they are defending those types of people whose to say they aren't those types of people themselves.


well like i said i think ur gettin ga lil off beat with that. Its not that they are defending them, its just that they don't see it as any worse than what Paterno did and thats whats driving me nuts

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 01:39 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>


The Steve Smith convo in the other thread is much more enjoyable. </p>

i think daven was trying to make a point rather than really saying that though.


What else is there to say, Morehead and Lando are hardcore defending people who choose not to stop a rape in progress and also choose not to go to the cops with it....

if they are defending those types of people whose to say they aren't those types of people themselves.
We're all good people. We've have established more than clearly our differences of opinion that we are all entitled to. We're good.

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 01:39 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 01:39 PM
Joe Pa was in a rare position to do something important to stop it and took a pass. We can only speculate as to why.

Jesus ****ing Christ what is wrong with you.....

McQueary was the one in the rare position to do something about it, Calhoun was in the rare position to do something about it.

Joe Pa was told a freaking story and he passed it along, should he have followed up on it, of course...and he didn't so that's his bad....but McQueary and Calhoun are the ones who actually witnessed the crime...how do they let that happen...how do they not go to the cops...
</p>


Stop with the "story" thing.</p>


He told Paterno what he had seen. He should have insisted he go to the police and gone with him.</p>

i just saw a dinosaur eat a car. Its not a story, its what i saw happen

and if u could see how distraught i am about it - u'd know it was true

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 01:42 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 01:42 PM
Stop with the "story" thing.</p>


He told Paterno what he had seen.
</p>

Yes, that's called a story....Paterno listened to this story and perhaps decided he didn't believe it, (which yes would be a mistake) but because it was his responsibility, he reported it to the AD anyhow.

How McQueary who saw the act take place didn't go to the cops that night is unfathomable to me...but you seem to be fine with it, how he didn't stop it right then and there ... I don't understand how you are ok with that Morehead.

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 01:44 PM
Joe Pa was in a rare position to do something important to stop it and took a pass. We can only speculate as to why.

Jesus ****ing Christ what is wrong with you.....

McQueary was the one in the rare position to do something about it, Calhoun was in the rare position to do something about it.

Joe Pa was told a freaking story and he passed it along, should he have followed up on it, of course...and he didn't so that's his bad....but McQueary and Calhoun are the ones who actually witnessed the crime...how do they let that happen...how do they not go to the cops...
</p>


Stop with the "story" thing.</p>


He told Paterno what he had seen. He should have insisted he go to the police and gone with him.</p>

i just saw a dinosaur eat a car. Its not a story, its what i saw happen

and if u could see how distraught i am about it - u'd know it was true


Well we better bring this to the cops/marines/army...we got a dinosaur on the loose call the national guard right now!

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 01:45 PM
Joe Pa was in a rare position to do something important to stop it and took a pass. We can only speculate as to why.

Jesus ****ing Christ what is wrong with you.....

McQueary was the one in the rare position to do something about it, Calhoun was in the rare position to do something about it.

Joe Pa was told a freaking story and he passed it along, should he have followed up on it, of course...and he didn't so that's his bad....but McQueary and Calhoun are the ones who actually witnessed the crime...how do they let that happen...how do they not go to the cops...
</p>


Stop with the "story" thing.</p>


He told Paterno what he had seen. He should have insisted he go to the police and gone with him.</p>

i just saw a dinosaur eat a car. Its not a story, its what i saw happen

and if u could see how distraught i am about it - u'd know it was true


Well we better bring this to the cops/marines/army...we got a dinosaur on the loose call the national guard right now!


hold on

i want to tell my boss first.. we make war machines here. Im sure he could help

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 01:46 PM
Are you drunk? This is personally insulting.

Yes it is Morehead, and that's why I'm trying to not look at this discussion anymore, because you and Lando seem to be perfectly fine with the Assistant and Janitor who left a kid there to be raped and never went to the cops....

I'm literally disgusted with the two of you.


Then you don't see what we are saying Daven. We are against exactly what you said. Everyone is at fault here. <font size="6">Just as much at fault.</font> Any of the people involved should have gone to the cops the moment they saw it. Everyone just kept covering it up. Joe could have used his "power" and stopped it. Instead he did nothing just like everyone else. No one is in the position that Joe is when it comes to that University.

My stance is the exact opposite of what you are saying Daven. I don't understand how you got what I've been saying so twisted. I don't know why the kids dad didn't tell him to call the cops instead of saying come home and we'll talk about it.



thats where ur wrong

McQueary is more at fualt. He didn't stop the rape from occuring when he physically was able to and somebody who witnesses the act is very different than somebody who hears about the act.

Not that the perosn who hears of the act should be off the hook.

WHO THE **** CARE?! The coach wasnt' a ****in kid! The fact that he didn't have the balls to stop the rape and common sense to notify the authorities himself is more gross than the aD covering it up. Because <u>McQueary is guitly of all the **** that JP and the AD are, except more.</u>
no hes not! the school board or whatever have the power to remove the scumbag perminately from the campus, and their words would hold more weight when telling police. its just the way it is.


LOL your a ****in fool

How would that conversation with the police go?

JP: MCqueary came to my office and told me this rape happened.

That would be the extent of it, then the ywould of talked to McQueary.

<u>and this guy rapes a child and your worrying about if hes on campus or not? WTF is wrong with u guys?</u> Who the **** cares., he should of been in cuffs within the hour of McQueary cathcing him.

MCQearuy covered it up just as long and turned his head and still worked at Penn state and saw Sandusky all the time. Only difference is that in the court of law if they are on trial, McQueary's testimony would put Sundusky away.

Its amazing, ur making MCQeuary out to be some crack addict living on the streets to where if he reported this he wouldn't be taken serious
nothing, youre just really gullible thinking mcquery telling the police is enough to lock this guy up, its not. its his word against whatever the scums name is.


First if u know anyhting about rape cases, he would also have THE VICTIM on his side. Now its 2 against 1.<u> Typically in child rape cases they don't have the confidence to step up and tell someone, they are scared. If somebody was there to back them up and say they saw the kid probably would of came clean. Do u disagree?</u>

But either way, if MCQUEARY played it right he would of done this:

Went in stopped the rape from happening grabbed the child and got him away from Sandusky. Held Sandusky there and called the police and had them walk in on that scene.

So between that happening, the rape kit that they would of been able to take from the kid, how do u suggest Sandusky would of been able to get out of it?

THEN let this news come out of the charges and then all of these other people would of stepped up like they are doing now.

I'd say thats all pretty reasonable, unless u think the black magic of JP would of been able to cover it all up


and drag the kid into this after the fact??? come on the kids been through enough. how would mc care for the child and hold sandusky there until police arrived at the same time???

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 01:47 PM
Are you drunk? This is personally insulting.

Yes it is Morehead, and that's why I'm trying to not look at this discussion anymore, because you and Lando seem to be perfectly fine with the Assistant and Janitor who left a kid there to be raped and never went to the cops....

I'm literally disgusted with the two of you.


Then you don't see what we are saying Daven. We are against exactly what you said. Everyone is at fault here. <font size="6">Just as much at fault.</font> Any of the people involved should have gone to the cops the moment they saw it. Everyone just kept covering it up. Joe could have used his "power" and stopped it. Instead he did nothing just like everyone else. No one is in the position that Joe is when it comes to that University.

My stance is the exact opposite of what you are saying Daven. I don't understand how you got what I've been saying so twisted. I don't know why the kids dad didn't tell him to call the cops instead of saying come home and we'll talk about it.



thats where ur wrong

McQueary is more at fualt. He didn't stop the rape from occuring when he physically was able to and somebody who witnesses the act is very different than somebody who hears about the act.

Not that the perosn who hears of the act should be off the hook.

WHO THE **** CARE?! The coach wasnt' a ****in kid! The fact that he didn't have the balls to stop the rape and common sense to notify the authorities himself is more gross than the aD covering it up. Because <u>McQueary is guitly of all the **** that JP and the AD are, except more.</u>
no hes not! the school board or whatever have the power to remove the scumbag perminately from the campus, and their words would hold more weight when telling police. its just the way it is.


LOL your a ****in fool

How would that conversation with the police go?

JP: MCqueary came to my office and told me this rape happened.

That would be the extent of it, then the ywould of talked to McQueary.

<u>and this guy rapes a child and your worrying about if hes on campus or not? WTF is wrong with u guys?</u> Who the **** cares., he should of been in cuffs within the hour of McQueary cathcing him.

MCQearuy covered it up just as long and turned his head and still worked at Penn state and saw Sandusky all the time. Only difference is that in the court of law if they are on trial, McQueary's testimony would put Sundusky away.

Its amazing, ur making MCQeuary out to be some crack addict living on the streets to where if he reported this he wouldn't be taken serious
nothing, youre just really gullible thinking mcquery telling the police is enough to lock this guy up, its not. its his word against whatever the scums name is.


First if u know anyhting about rape cases, he would also have THE VICTIM on his side. Now its 2 against 1.<u> Typically in child rape cases they don't have the confidence to step up and tell someone, they are scared. If somebody was there to back them up and say they saw the kid probably would of came clean. Do u disagree?</u>

But either way, if MCQUEARY played it right he would of done this:

Went in stopped the rape from happening grabbed the child and got him away from Sandusky. Held Sandusky there and called the police and had them walk in on that scene.

So between that happening, the rape kit that they would of been able to take from the kid, how do u suggest Sandusky would of been able to get out of it?

THEN let this news come out of the charges and then all of these other people would of stepped up like they are doing now.

I'd say thats all pretty reasonable, unless u think the black magic of JP would of been able to cover it all up


and drag the kid into this after the fact??? come on the kids been through enough. how would mc care for the child and hold sandusky there until police arrived at the same time???


uhm u do realize that had JP gone to the cops himself or not, the kid was going to have to testify and say it happened eventually right

That wouldn't of changed. Infact im sure right now hes having to answer these questions if he didn't already

I don't get ur point at all. Theres no way this case goes on, if this kid doesn't eventually say it happened

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 01:51 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/hhh-silos/hashed_silo_content/1f0/f7a/12c/resized/perfectlytimedphotos-com-a26b7c.jpglmao this is funny cause i play fifa 12 with man united. hahaha wtf going on here?
if thats not a hand ball i dont know what is.

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 01:51 PM
Lmao

http://www.skrattsajten.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=134412734

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 01:52 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/hhh-silos/hashed_silo_content/1f0/f7a/12c/resized/perfectlytimedphotos-com-a26b7c.jpglmao this is funny cause i play fifa 12 with man united. hahaha wtf going on here?
if thats not a hand ball i dont know what is.
Bizzare-the guy on the bottom remind me of Tony Dungee

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 01:54 PM
Are you drunk? This is personally insulting.

Yes it is Morehead, and that's why I'm trying to not look at this discussion anymore, because you and Lando seem to be perfectly fine with the Assistant and Janitor who left a kid there to be raped and never went to the cops....

I'm literally disgusted with the two of you.


Then you don't see what we are saying Daven. We are against exactly what you said. Everyone is at fault here. <font size="6">Just as much at fault.</font> Any of the people involved should have gone to the cops the moment they saw it. Everyone just kept covering it up. Joe could have used his "power" and stopped it. Instead he did nothing just like everyone else. No one is in the position that Joe is when it comes to that University.

My stance is the exact opposite of what you are saying Daven. I don't understand how you got what I've been saying so twisted. I don't know why the kids dad didn't tell him to call the cops instead of saying come home and we'll talk about it.



thats where ur wrong

McQueary is more at fualt. He didn't stop the rape from occuring when he physically was able to and somebody who witnesses the act is very different than somebody who hears about the act.

Not that the perosn who hears of the act should be off the hook.

WHO THE **** CARE?! The coach wasnt' a ****in kid! The fact that he didn't have the balls to stop the rape and common sense to notify the authorities himself is more gross than the aD covering it up. Because <u>McQueary is guitly of all the **** that JP and the AD are, except more.</u>
no hes not! the school board or whatever have the power to remove the scumbag perminately from the campus, and their words would hold more weight when telling police. its just the way it is.


LOL your a ****in fool

How would that conversation with the police go?

JP: MCqueary came to my office and told me this rape happened.

That would be the extent of it, then the ywould of talked to McQueary.

<u>and this guy rapes a child and your worrying about if hes on campus or not? WTF is wrong with u guys?</u> Who the **** cares., he should of been in cuffs within the hour of McQueary cathcing him.

MCQearuy covered it up just as long and turned his head and still worked at Penn state and saw Sandusky all the time. Only difference is that in the court of law if they are on trial, McQueary's testimony would put Sundusky away.

Its amazing, ur making MCQeuary out to be some crack addict living on the streets to where if he reported this he wouldn't be taken serious
nothing, youre just really gullible thinking mcquery telling the police is enough to lock this guy up, its not. its his word against whatever the scums name is.


First if u know anyhting about rape cases, he would also have THE VICTIM on his side. Now its 2 against 1.<u> Typically in child rape cases they don't have the confidence to step up and tell someone, they are scared. If somebody was there to back them up and say they saw the kid probably would of came clean. Do u disagree?</u>

But either way, if MCQUEARY played it right he would of done this:

Went in stopped the rape from happening grabbed the child and got him away from Sandusky. Held Sandusky there and called the police and had them walk in on that scene.

So between that happening, the rape kit that they would of been able to take from the kid, how do u suggest Sandusky would of been able to get out of it?

THEN let this news come out of the charges and then all of these other people would of stepped up like they are doing now.

I'd say thats all pretty reasonable, unless u think the black magic of JP would of been able to cover it all up


and drag the kid into this after the fact??? come on the kids been through enough. how would mc care for the child and hold sandusky there until police arrived at the same time???


uhm u do realize that had JP gone to the cops himself or not, t<u>he kid was going to have to testify and say it happened eventually right</u>

That wouldn't of changed. Infact im sure right now hes having to answer these questions if he didn't already

I don't get ur point at all. Theres no way this case goes on, if this kid doesn't eventually say it happened
no a victim doesnt have to do anything. if he wants the charges to stick, yea but hes 10 years old and has no clue what just happened.

why didnt the mother have her son testify, take a rape kit test?

JPizzack
11-10-2011, 01:54 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</P>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</P>

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 01:56 PM
All Paterno...ALL the time in here still I see ....</P>


It's really an unfortunate way for it to end for the legend @ PSU and I feel terrible for all parties involved.</P>


on another note my pick was due today for Survivor Pool ( because of thursday night game ) and I had to write down the ****ing Iggles....oh MY GOD I will actually be cheering for the Eagles for the first time in my life against Arizona...( didn't even cheer for them in 2005 when I had a $200.00 bet with my roomate where he got NE to win SB and I had the field )...anyway just thought I would share that....I had no other options but the Eagles and I really wanna win htis Pool !!!</P>


</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 01:57 PM
Are you drunk? This is personally insulting.

Yes it is Morehead, and that's why I'm trying to not look at this discussion anymore, because you and Lando seem to be perfectly fine with the Assistant and Janitor who left a kid there to be raped and never went to the cops....

I'm literally disgusted with the two of you.


Then you don't see what we are saying Daven. We are against exactly what you said. Everyone is at fault here. <font size="6">Just as much at fault.</font> Any of the people involved should have gone to the cops the moment they saw it. Everyone just kept covering it up. Joe could have used his "power" and stopped it. Instead he did nothing just like everyone else. No one is in the position that Joe is when it comes to that University.

My stance is the exact opposite of what you are saying Daven. I don't understand how you got what I've been saying so twisted. I don't know why the kids dad didn't tell him to call the cops instead of saying come home and we'll talk about it.



thats where ur wrong

McQueary is more at fualt. He didn't stop the rape from occuring when he physically was able to and somebody who witnesses the act is very different than somebody who hears about the act.

Not that the perosn who hears of the act should be off the hook.

WHO THE **** CARE?! The coach wasnt' a ****in kid! The fact that he didn't have the balls to stop the rape and common sense to notify the authorities himself is more gross than the aD covering it up. Because <u>McQueary is guitly of all the **** that JP and the AD are, except more.</u>
no hes not! the school board or whatever have the power to remove the scumbag perminately from the campus, and their words would hold more weight when telling police. its just the way it is.


LOL your a ****in fool

How would that conversation with the police go?

JP: MCqueary came to my office and told me this rape happened.

That would be the extent of it, then the ywould of talked to McQueary.

<u>and this guy rapes a child and your worrying about if hes on campus or not? WTF is wrong with u guys?</u> Who the **** cares., he should of been in cuffs within the hour of McQueary cathcing him.

MCQearuy covered it up just as long and turned his head and still worked at Penn state and saw Sandusky all the time. Only difference is that in the court of law if they are on trial, McQueary's testimony would put Sundusky away.

Its amazing, ur making MCQeuary out to be some crack addict living on the streets to where if he reported this he wouldn't be taken serious
nothing, youre just really gullible thinking mcquery telling the police is enough to lock this guy up, its not. its his word against whatever the scums name is.


First if u know anyhting about rape cases, he would also have THE VICTIM on his side. Now its 2 against 1.<u> Typically in child rape cases they don't have the confidence to step up and tell someone, they are scared. If somebody was there to back them up and say they saw the kid probably would of came clean. Do u disagree?</u>

But either way, if MCQUEARY played it right he would of done this:

Went in stopped the rape from happening grabbed the child and got him away from Sandusky. Held Sandusky there and called the police and had them walk in on that scene.

So between that happening, the rape kit that they would of been able to take from the kid, how do u suggest Sandusky would of been able to get out of it?

THEN let this news come out of the charges and then all of these other people would of stepped up like they are doing now.

I'd say thats all pretty reasonable, unless u think the black magic of JP would of been able to cover it all up


and drag the kid into this after the fact??? come on the kids been through enough. how would mc care for the child and hold sandusky there until police arrived at the same time???


uhm u do realize that had JP gone to the cops himself or not, t<u>he kid was going to have to testify and say it happened eventually right</u>

That wouldn't of changed. Infact im sure right now hes having to answer these questions if he didn't already

I don't get ur point at all. Theres no way this case goes on, if this kid doesn't eventually say it happened
no a victim doesnt have to do anything. if he wants the charges to stick, yea but hes 10 years old and has no clue what just happened.

why didnt the mother have her son testify, take a rape kit test?


becuase this kid didn't tell his mother, ur getting stories mixed up

the one who did tell his mother said that he was touched - no rape kit

theres a small timetable for when a rape kit can be successfully done, so it would of HAD to be done quickly

as the LI hooker killer, i figured u would of known that

So u think its better to let the kid take it easy for a night and probably never get justice opposed to getting the evidence that is undeniable?

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 01:59 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</p>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</p>The blonde, the blonde. How is she?

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 02:01 PM
All Paterno...ALL the time in here still I see ....</p>


It's really an unfortunate way for it to end for the legend @ PSU and I feel terrible for all parties involved.</p>


on another note my pick was due today for Survivor Pool ( because of thursday night game ) and I had to write down the ****ing Iggles....oh MY GOD I will actually be cheering for the Eagles for the first time in my life against Arizona...( didn't even cheer for them in 2005 when I had a $200.00 bet with my roomate where he got NE to win SB and I had the field )...anyway just thought I would share that....I had no other options but the Eagles and I really wanna win htis Pool !!!</p>


</p>


</p>Good Luck---Shocks, I have feeling you're gonna get it.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 02:02 PM
sorry but if u see a rape occur in your apartment building are you going to call the owner of the bulding instead of the police? I think thats complete horse****


You know what I would do...

JPizzack
11-10-2011, 02:02 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</P>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</P>


The blonde, the blonde. How is she?
</P>


fine I suppose. she's coming up to visit tmrw. I have not spoken to her much lately actually.
she said she wont be coming home very often anymore because she has her own space now, and not alot of reason to. understandable i suppose.
but i hate the city, so im not about to waste my weekends there lol</P>

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 02:06 PM
sorry but if u see a rape occur in your apartment building are you going to call the owner of the bulding instead of the police? I think thats complete horse****


You know what I would do...
My youngest is 8yr old boy. Discussion of this whole issue is hitting home. I need to separate myself from it for a bit. Right now, I want to hurt Sanduskey.

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 02:06 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</p>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</p>


The blonde, the blonde. How is she?
</p>


fine I suppose. she's coming up to visit tmrw. I have not spoken to her much lately actually.
she said she wont be coming home very often anymore because she has her own space now, and not alot of reason to. understandable i suppose.
but i hate the city, so im not about to waste my weekends there lol</p>so ex one to the next one?

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 02:08 PM
and if more facts and details emerge i will factor them into my opinion of the situation

but as of what we know right now, McQueary should be the story
Nobody knows who McQueary is. And therefore nobody cares what he did, or didn't do. Everybody knows who Paterno is and therefore care very much what he did or didn't do. And he didn't do plenty.
WELL said

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 02:08 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</p>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</p>


The blonde, the blonde. How is she?
</p>


fine I suppose. she's coming up to visit tmrw. I have not spoken to her much lately actually.
she said she wont be coming home very often anymore because she has her own space now, and not alot of reason to. understandable i suppose.
but i hate the city, so im not about to waste my weekends there lol</p>Cool beans. What are the plans for the weekend?

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 02:09 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</p>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</p>


The blonde, the blonde. How is she?
</p>


fine I suppose. she's coming up to visit tmrw. I have not spoken to her much lately actually.
she said she wont be coming home very often anymore because she has her own space now, and not alot of reason to. understandable i suppose.
but i hate the city, so im not about to waste my weekends there lol</p>so ex one to the next one?
Dezz has got lyrics

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 02:11 PM
thanks LT....gunna suck to root for the Eagles....u should see the schedule I have worked out though....got great playce s to use Da' Bears and Lions still along with Baltimore, Bengals and Houston....I think I got a shot @ it.</P>


can someone summarize the MH and Utah Joe Paterno argument vs. Daven and Matt....it is like 30 pages to read and I just don't have the time today.</P>


</P>

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 02:13 PM
]Nobody knows who McQueary is. And therefore nobody cares what he did, or didn't do. Everybody knows who Paterno is and therefore care very much what he did or didn't do. And he didn't do plenty.

I know McQueary is a human being and as a fellow human being I can not believe he didn't do more after witnessing what he witnessed....I couldn't care less what Paterno did or didn't do after this guy told him the story...I'm stuck on McQueary not killing the guy right there or at least getting the cops involved that moment.

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 02:13 PM
<FONT color=#0000ff size=5>Battle or Stewart for Bush Lando ????</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#0000ff size=5>also if u were serious about Fitz I cna think of another thing too !!!</FONT></P>

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 02:17 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>

Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 02:20 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>

Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.


You guys are defending someone who let it happen...what else am I supposed to think...I know you guys aren't like that but why are you defending them then?

Morehead State
11-10-2011, 02:21 PM
<FONT color=#0000ff size=5>Battle or Stewart for Bush Lando ????</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#0000ff size=5>also if u were serious about Fitz I cna think of another thing too !!!</FONT></P>


</P>


Are you interested in Cedric Benson Shock?</P>

Morehead State
11-10-2011, 02:22 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</P>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</P>



Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.


You guys are defending someone who let it happen...what else am I supposed to think...I know you guys aren't like that but why are you defending them then?
</P>


We are?</P>


I must have missed that.</P>

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 02:23 PM
thanks LT....gunna suck to root for the Eagles....u should see the schedule I have worked out though....got great playce s to use Da' Bears and Lions still along with Baltimore, Bengals and Houston....I think I got a shot @ it.</p>


can someone summarize the MH and Utah Joe Paterno argument vs. Daven and Matt....it is like 30 pages to read and I just don't have the time today.</p>


</p>I know-I hate the eagles. The indictment is completely disturbing. Another sicko. Scary part is how many of them walk the streets, playgrounds, schools that we don't know about.

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 02:24 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>

Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.


You guys are defending someone who let it happen...what else am I supposed to think...I know you guys aren't like that but why are you defending them then?
cause not everyone has the same thought process and we are missing pieces of this story.

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 02:25 PM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/380134_2269009724440_1224490977_32188282_155078901 5_n.jpg

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 02:26 PM
their words would hold more weight when telling police. its just the way it is.

Why they don't get that is weeeeeeeeell beyond me...


We do get that Lando, the point is whether Joe Pa comes or not, as a witness you HAVE to report it....and it wasn't reported.

what I don't understand is how you think First hand Knowledge and Second Hand Knowledge are the same thing...

one is called first and the other is called second for a reason...

the witness has a MUCH MUCH MUCH higher responsibility to make sure the guy gets what he deserves then the guy he tells the story to.

Should Joe Pa have done more...YES! obviously but that's not what we are talking about....the real culprit here (outside of Sandusky obviously) is Calhoun and McQueary, how they could think telling Joe Pa. about it and then dropping it was enough is<font color="#7FFFD4" size="5"> <font color="#0000FF">unfathomable</font>.</font>

You use it today and Matt uses it yesterday. Get your own style hoes! lol j/k

I am tired of making excuses for McQueary. He should have called cops instantly. He handled it all wrong. Then Joe did, then others did, then no one said anything ever again which is even worse. Then they lied about it.

JPizzack
11-10-2011, 02:27 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</P>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</P>


The blonde, the blonde. How is she?
</P>


fine I suppose. she's coming up to visit tmrw. I have not spoken to her much lately actually.
she said she wont be coming home very often anymore because she has her own space now, and not alot of reason to. understandable i suppose.
but i hate the city, so im not about to waste my weekends there lol</P>


so ex one to the next one?
</P>


no lag between the vag?</P>


she was never my girl really....she was my sure thing, and i was her safe bet...that's all.
What do they call that in the world of pimpin'? oh yea....my bottom b*tch!! lmao</P>

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 02:28 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>



Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.


You guys are defending someone who let it happen...what else am I supposed to think...I know you guys aren't like that but why are you defending them then?
</p>


We are?</p>


I must have missed that.</p>

Yes you have been, you Lando and Dez.

Saying things like "Well he was afraid to lose his job" or "Well he told his superiors" or "Well who was going to believe him"

How does any of that matter....these excuses you guys keep coming up for these guys that literally let it happen right in front of them and didn't step in physically right there and didn't go to the cops immediately (if you are against physical intervention for some reason) personally I find them disgusting...there is no excuse.

if you want to talk about Joe Pa...then yeah your right he didn't do enough in the long rung, but again as much as you don't want to believe it Morehead....Joe Pa gets stories told to him everyday...some true some fake it's easy to become jaded in that situation, it's easy to say ok well I'll file this complaint with the AD and put it away....and THAT'S NOT RIGHT...that's also bad.

but nowhere NEAR as bad as letting the crime take place in front of you and not taking action....and I'm sorry...going to Joe Pa is not my interpretation of appropriate action in this case.

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 02:30 PM
You use it today and Matt uses it yesterday. Get your own style hoes! lol j/k

<font size="4" color="#0000FF">I am tired of making excuses for McQueary. </font>He should have called cops instantly. He handled it all wrong. Then Joe did, then others did, then no one said anything ever again which is even worse. Then they lied about it.



THANK YOU...

I agree with all that, of course Joe Pa handled it wrong, how did he not follow up, especially after a second report..everyone is wrong here.

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 02:31 PM
<FONT color=#0000ff size=5>Battle or Stewart for Bush Lando ????</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#0000ff size=5>also if u were serious about Fitz I cna think of another thing too !!!</FONT></P>


</P>


Are you interested in Cedric Benson Shock?</P>


</P>


</P>


maybe....like I was trying to work out a deal with Utah too and things got changed up....the players I am interested in trading are only Stewart or Jackie Battle...DeSean Jackson could be had too if I got an adequate receiver back in a trade....between McFadden, Andre Johnson and Ryan Mattews it is like they are conspiring against me in FF this season...lol ...I will forgive Mattews if he goes for 22 points toinight though....Johnson is in my doghouse forever !!!</P>

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 02:33 PM
this Joe Pa' thing is heated in here !!!</P>


ofr the record I think McQuery ( whatever his name is ) should have gone right to the Cops if he witnessed something and let's not forget that Paterno is an 84-year old man....he was probably confused on just what his obligation was...but YES he should have gonme to Police too nad banned Sandusky from campus !!!</P>

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 02:34 PM
cause not everyone has the same thought process and we are missing pieces of this story.


NO Dez...unacceptable...not everyone has the same thought process? really?

well then, I don't want people who watch a child raped in front of them and decide it's not worth getting involved over to be walking this earth....people with "that" thought process don't deserve to be alive....

And yeah..."I'M" Getting a little emotional over this topic.

Morehead State
11-10-2011, 02:38 PM
The one positive thing thats come from this entire fiasco is that we have our hysterical Scrappy back.</P>


</P>

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 02:39 PM
<u>Mike McQueary will coach on Saturday</u></p>


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7215664/penn-state-nittany-lions-mike-mcqueary-coach-weekend</p>


This is pathetic, I find it hard to believe he will last past Friday. </p>


He needs to be fired asap....</p>
There is no way that POS can take the field. May as well have everyone out there.

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 02:40 PM
cause not everyone has the same thought process and we are missing pieces of this story.


NO Dez...unacceptable...not everyone has the same thought process? really?

well then, I don't want people who watch a child raped in front of them and decide it's not worth getting involved over to be walking this earth....people with "that" thought process don't deserve to be alive....

And yeah..."I'M" Getting a little emotional over this topic.
for the last time, he did get involved, it might of not been what you wanted him to do but he was bothered by it enough to tell his father and told joe. its not like he just said "mehhh whatever". your going to say thats exactly what he did when the school didnt do anything. but after the school didnt do anything, what would make him think he could do something alone? he doesnt know if the school reported it or not.

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 02:46 PM
for the last time, he did get involved, it might of not been what you wanted him to do but he was bothered by it enough to tell his father and told joe. its not like he just said "mehhh whatever".

In my opinion telling just his father and Joe Pa is about as far as Meh whatever.


your going to say thats exactly what he did when the school didnt do anything. but after the school didnt do anything, what would make him think he could do something alone? he doesnt know if the school reported it or not.

How does he let that sit though, that's what I don't understand how isn't he talking to the cops everyday how isn't he talking to Joe Pa every chance he gets .... when he see's this person still around campus how is he not doing everything he can every day.

no It's completely unacceptable Dez...I don't care how different your thought process is, if you see a child molestation and can let the man go unpunished (regardless of whether you think they'll believe you or not) you are a worthless person.

how did he not step in that night, how did he not ever go to the cops...it's completely unacceptable.

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 02:46 PM
offer sent MH .

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 02:48 PM
]Nobody knows who McQueary is. And therefore nobody cares what he did, or didn't do. Everybody knows who Paterno is and therefore care very much what he did or didn't do. And he didn't do plenty.

I know McQueary is a human being and as a fellow human being I can not believe he didn't do more after witnessing what he witnessed....I couldn't care less what Paterno did or didn't do after this guy told him the story...I'm stuck on McQueary not killing the guy right there or at least getting the cops involved that moment.


So are we Daven.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 02:49 PM
<font color="#0000ff" size="5">Battle or Stewart for Bush Lando ????</font></p>


<font color="#0000ff" size="5">also if u were serious about Fitz I cna think of another thing too !!!</font></p>
PM

I'm interested.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 02:51 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>

Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.


You guys are defending someone who let it happen...what else am I supposed to think...I know you guys aren't like that but why are you defending them then?

We aren't Daven. I have tried to suggest possibly what I was thinking. But he should have called 911 the second he saw it.

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 02:52 PM
sorry but if u see a rape occur in your apartment building are you going to call the owner of the bulding instead of the police? I think thats complete horse****


You know what I would do...


i know what u would to! lol thats why i find ur stance on some of this inconsistant!

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 02:53 PM
and if more facts and details emerge i will factor them into my opinion of the situation

but as of what we know right now, McQueary should be the story
Nobody knows who McQueary is. And therefore nobody cares what he did, or didn't do. Everybody knows who Paterno is and therefore care very much what he did or didn't do. And he didn't do plenty.
WELL said


and thats the exact issue i have. This isn't about a popularity contest. Im not the biggets college guy so before this i didn't even know who sandusky was either!

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 02:55 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>



Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.


You guys are defending someone who let it happen...what else am I supposed to think...I know you guys aren't like that but why are you defending them then?
</p>


We are?</p>


I must have missed that.</p>

again as somebody who is nuertral on this specific comment

Daven is viewing u as not giving MCQueary more blame as u defending him even though you say hes as bad as JP. By Davens opinion of that it comes off like u are giving him a pass, like to u guys it seems like we're giving JP a pass which isn't the case at all

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 02:55 PM
PM Lando....we got to go quick....game is tongiht.

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 02:56 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>

Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.


You guys are defending someone who let it happen...what else am I supposed to think...I know you guys aren't like that but why are you defending them then?

We aren't Daven. I have tried to suggest possibly what I was thinking. <u>But he should have called 911 the second he saw it. </u>
but it doesnt make him just as guilty sadusky, thats ludicrous

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 02:59 PM
your a ****in fool


I don't see why you need to attack us personally.

You have said the same thing to me, MH and now Dez.
</p>


Not to mention that Scrappy implied we both would be perfectly happy to let a guy molest a child. Its getting heated and all the insults are going in one direction. Towards lando and myself.</p>

Yeah, it's pretty bad to be honest Chris.


You guys are defending someone who let it happen...what else am I supposed to think...I know you guys aren't like that but why are you defending them then?

We aren't Daven. I have tried to suggest possibly what I was thinking. <u>But he should have called 911 the second he saw it. </u>
but it doesnt make him just as guilty sadusky, thats ludicrous


im the only one that said that so don't put that on daven, dunno if he feels lik that

i feel if he was in the room and didnt' stop it and then his actions after that I put him at a higher level than the rst of blame.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 03:00 PM
and if more facts and details emerge i will factor them into my opinion of the situation

but as of what we know right now, McQueary should be the story
Nobody knows who McQueary is. And therefore nobody cares what he did, or didn't do. Everybody knows who Paterno is and therefore care very much what he did or didn't do. And he didn't do plenty.
WELL said


and thats the exact issue i have. This isn't about a popularity contest. Im not the biggets college guy so before this i didn't even know who sandusky was either!



Me either. But every mother ****er on the planet knows who Joe Paterno is. lol

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 03:02 PM
and if more facts and details emerge i will factor them into my opinion of the situation

but as of what we know right now, McQueary should be the story
Nobody knows who McQueary is. And therefore nobody cares what he did, or didn't do. Everybody knows who Paterno is and therefore care very much what he did or didn't do. And he didn't do plenty.
WELL said


and thats the exact issue i have. This isn't about a popularity contest. Im not the biggets college guy so before this i didn't even know who sandusky was either!



Me either. But every mother ****er on the planet knows who Joe Paterno is. lol


and that was my original point - to me names don't judge the level guilt, actions do

or in this case - lack there of

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 03:03 PM
The one positive thing thats come from this entire fiasco is that we have our hysterical Scrappy back.</p>


</p>

sorry for telling u to **** off - **** of me

i couldn't believe u just asked how do we give JP a pass after all of that. My fist almost went through my computer screen

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 03:05 PM
but it doesnt make him just as guilty sadusky, thats ludicrous

No it doesn't, but it does make him a despicable human being in his own right.....more so then Joe Pa also...

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 03:06 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</p>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</p>


The blonde, the blonde. How is she?
</p>


fine I suppose. she's coming up to visit tmrw. I have not spoken to her much lately actually.
she said she wont be coming home very often anymore because she has her own space now, and not alot of reason to. understandable i suppose.
but i hate the city, so im not about to waste my weekends there lol</p>


so ex one to the next one?
</p>


no lag between the vag?</p>


she was never my girl really....she was my sure thing, and i was her safe bet...that's all.
What do they call that in the world of pimpin'? oh yea....my bottom b*tch!! lmao</p>Are you giving me the wrong advices? I thought she was yo shawtie?

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 03:12 PM
PM Lando.

MattMeyerBud
11-10-2011, 03:13 PM
but it doesnt make him just as guilty sadusky, thats ludicrous

No it doesn't, but it does make him a despicable human being in his own right.....more so then Joe Pa also...


even tho it is hard to say that to people so they understand its true....

but i think we're all on the same page that there all passed a level scumbag that should ever be acheived

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 03:15 PM
The one positive thing thats come from this entire fiasco is that we have our hysterical Scrappy back.</p>


</p>

sorry for telling u to **** off - **** of me

i couldn't believe u just asked how do we give JP a pass after all of that. My fist almost went through my computer screen
Speaking of...I think Hysteria Lane was a suitable address for Thee Thread today. lol.

Passion, people, I love it!! It let's you know you're alive.

shocknaweny
11-10-2011, 03:21 PM
Lando PM.</P>


I don't think we are gunna be able to get anything sorted out today...</P>


I like my line-up for this week I think.</P>

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 03:21 PM
PM Lando.
Your turn

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 03:23 PM
http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-darwin_Award_Cat.jpg

lttaylor56
11-10-2011, 03:25 PM
http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-sandy.jpg

JPizzack
11-10-2011, 03:31 PM
ok ok in all seriousness, penera or chipolte????
Chipolte</P>


I had Panera for the first time a month or so ago while visiting the blonde in the city. i wasnt impressed. I'll give it another try at some point, but as of right now i'd say
PANERA!</P>


The blonde, the blonde. How is she?
</P>


fine I suppose. she's coming up to visit tmrw. I have not spoken to her much lately actually.
she said she wont be coming home very often anymore because she has her own space now, and not alot of reason to. understandable i suppose.
but i hate the city, so im not about to waste my weekends there lol</P>


so ex one to the next one?
</P>


no lag between the vag?</P>


she was never my girl really....she was my sure thing, and i was her safe bet...that's all.
What do they call that in the world of pimpin'? oh yea....my bottom b*tch!! lmao</P>


Are you giving me the wrong advices? I thought she was yo shawtie?
</P>


lol. sure, I have an attachment to her....but we were never a thing really, we just kinda hada thing...
Idk if that makes any sense, but like i said, we were each other's safe bet...
I mean, maybe one day, if something clicks we will be.....

but i cant even commit to a cell phone contract! we have a mutual understanding, lol</P>

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 03:51 PM
awww man. fat mike just read a quote im not sure who he was quoting

"im not sure how to put this anyother way other than sadusky was pimping the kids out"
pput a ****ing bullet in this ****s head nooow.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 03:52 PM
The 49ers have not allowed a touchdown to an opposing running back at home all year.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Told by a graduate assistant in 2002 that former Nittany Lions defensive
coordinator Jerry Sandusky had sexually assaulted a boy, believed to be
10 years old, in the showers of Penn State's football complex, Paterno
did nothing more than inform athletic director Tim Curley and university
vice president Gary Schultz of the allegation. Paterno never personally
called police. His son, Scott Paterno, told the Philadelphia Inquirer
on Wednesday that his father<font color="#0000FF"> never even asked</font> Sandusky -- his assistant
coach for three decades and who was once considered his heir apparent --
about the incident.

This wasn't a case of Paterno choosing to ignore
allegations of booster payments to a player or improper grade changes by
a professor. Paterno's inaction allegedly involved one of the most
heinous crimes a person can commit -- the rape of a child. While Paterno
has not been accused of legal wrongdoing -- authorities have said he
cooperated during the investigation -- he is guilty of gross
indifference, if nothing else. Morally, Paterno should have done more
and he now concedes it.

Sadly, it's too late for apologies. <font color="#0000FF">Paterno and
the others believed Sandusky was enough of a threat to children in 2002
to ban him from having youth sports camps on the Penn State campus or
from bringing children to the school's football facilities.</font> Apparently,
they just didn't believe Sandusky was enough of a threat to call police
about their concerns.

After informing Curley and Schultz of the
allegations, Paterno apparently never even bothered to ask why nothing
was done. <font color="#0000FF" size="4">Because of his status as an iconic coach on a football-crazed
campus, Paterno commanded attention and could have demanded an
investigation at any time.<cite></cite></font><span class="page-actions"><cite class="source"></cite></span><font color="#0000FF" size="4"><font size="3"></font></font></p>

Instead, Paterno and the others did nothing.</p>

For
nearly a decade after graduate assistant Mike McQueary allegedly
witnessed Sandusky subjecting a 10-year-old boy to anal intercourse,
Sandusky had free reign of Penn State's football facilities. According
to published reports, Sandusky worked out in Penn State's weight room as
late as last week.
</p>

Paterno's "Grand Experiment" was supposed to be a blueprint for how
intercollegiate sports should work, a harmonious balance of academics
and athletics, which would ensure that the players who enrolled at Penn
State would be better men when they left.</p>

Somehow, Paterno's Grand Experiment became the Great Cover-up.</p>

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 04:08 PM
From Jemelle Hill:

For a man of Paterno's stature to turn his back on a child, to allow
what appears to be a serial child predator to continue to have access to
his program -- shockingly, Sandusky maintained an office across the
street from the Penn State football team's building -- is totally
unforgivable.

<font color="#0000FF">Legally, Paterno is clear. Morally, he is as guilty as any
of the adults who maintained a code of inactivity -- especially
McQueary, who chose to flee the building rather than assist a helpless
child.</font>

If Sandusky is proved guilty, he is obviously the worst monster in
this sordid horror story. But it isn't a stretch to suggest that
Paterno played the role of Dr. Frankenstein. He didn't create the
monster, but if Sandusky is guilty, then Paterno is at least partially
responsible for the tragedies of every one of the victims assaulted
after that unidentified boy in the shower.



Funny how all these ESPN writers and mostly everyone is saying what MH and I have.

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 04:10 PM
Told by a graduate assistant in 2002 that former Nittany Lions defensive
coordinator Jerry Sandusky had sexually assaulted a boy, believed to be
10 years old, in the showers of Penn State's football complex, Paterno
did nothing more than inform athletic director Tim Curley and university
vice president Gary Schultz of the allegation. Paterno never personally
called police. His son, Scott Paterno, told the Philadelphia Inquirer
on Wednesday that his father<font color="#0000FF"> never even asked</font> Sandusky -- his assistant
coach for three decades and who was once considered his heir apparent --
about the incident.

This wasn't a case of Paterno choosing to ignore
allegations of booster payments to a player or improper grade changes by
a professor. Paterno's inaction allegedly involved one of the most
heinous crimes a person can commit -- the rape of a child. While Paterno
has not been accused of legal wrongdoing -- authorities have said he
cooperated during the investigation -- he is guilty of gross
indifference, if nothing else. Morally, Paterno should have done more
and he now concedes it.

Sadly, it's too late for apologies. <font color="#0000FF">Paterno and
the others believed Sandusky was enough of a threat to children in 2002
to ban him from having youth sports camps on the Penn State campus or
from bringing children to the school's football facilities.</font> Apparently,
they just didn't believe Sandusky was enough of a threat to call police
about their concerns.

After informing Curley and Schultz of the
allegations, Paterno apparently never even bothered to ask why nothing
was done. <font size="4" color="#0000FF">Because of his status as an iconic coach on a football-crazed
campus, Paterno commanded attention and could have demanded an
investigation at any time.<cite></cite></font><span class="page-actions"><cite class="source"></cite></span><font size="4" color="#0000FF"><font size="3"></font></font></p>

Instead, Paterno and the others did nothing.</p>

For
nearly a decade after graduate assistant Mike McQueary allegedly
witnessed Sandusky subjecting a 10-year-old boy to anal intercourse,
Sandusky had free reign of Penn State's football facilities. According
to published reports, Sandusky worked out in Penn State's weight room as
late as last week.
</p>

Paterno's "Grand Experiment" was supposed to be a blueprint for how
intercollegiate sports should work, a harmonious balance of academics
and athletics, which would ensure that the players who enrolled at Penn
State would be better men when they left.</p>

Somehow, Paterno's Grand Experiment became the Great Cover-up.</p>

This is sensational reporting (I hope everyone understands that) but that doesn't mean there isn't a grain of truth in it.

I think the truth is Paterno in the end, became a jaded old man whose reputation was one of a morally righteous coach, but maybe that's not what he was anymore, but that's not illegal...and not really even immoral, I do not think there was anything wrong with him not personally demanding an investigation upon the FIRST complaint....it was just a story he heard from someone who he may or may not have trusted who knows, he did what was necessary...passed it out to the AD, but as soon as a second (and god forbid third) similar complaint came in, being Joe Pa...being who he is and allowing his reputation to be what it is.....he HAS to push for the investigation at that point.

Kase-1
11-10-2011, 04:10 PM
The one positive thing thats come from this entire fiasco is that we have our hysterical Scrappy back.</p>


</p>

sorry for telling u to **** off - **** of me

i couldn't believe u just asked how do we give JP a pass after all of that. My fist almost went through my computer screen
As a former PSU fan, Joe Pa should have instantly canned that a-hole sandusky in addition to having his wahzoo beaten the f' down.

As for Joe Pa, if all is true he shoulda been fired. If he knew about someone doing that and didnt immediatley can sandusky then he's in the wrong

Kase-1
11-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Told by a graduate assistant in 2002 that former Nittany Lions defensive
coordinator Jerry Sandusky had sexually assaulted a boy, believed to be
10 years old, in the showers of Penn State's football complex, Paterno
did nothing more than inform athletic director Tim Curley and university
vice president Gary Schultz of the allegation. Paterno never personally
called police. His son, Scott Paterno, told the Philadelphia Inquirer
on Wednesday that his father<font color="#0000ff"> never even asked</font> Sandusky -- his assistant
coach for three decades and who was once considered his heir apparent --
about the incident.

This wasn't a case of Paterno choosing to ignore
allegations of booster payments to a player or improper grade changes by
a professor. Paterno's inaction allegedly involved one of the most
heinous crimes a person can commit -- the rape of a child. While Paterno
has not been accused of legal wrongdoing -- authorities have said he
cooperated during the investigation -- he is guilty of gross
indifference, if nothing else. Morally, Paterno should have done more
and he now concedes it.

Sadly, it's too late for apologies. <font color="#0000ff">Paterno and
the others believed Sandusky was enough of a threat to children in 2002
to ban him from having youth sports camps on the Penn State campus or
from bringing children to the school's football facilities.</font> Apparently,
they just didn't believe Sandusky was enough of a threat to call police
about their concerns.

After informing Curley and Schultz of the
allegations, Paterno apparently never even bothered to ask why nothing
was done. <font color="#0000ff" size="4">Because of his status as an iconic coach on a football-crazed
campus, Paterno commanded attention and could have demanded an
investigation at any time.<cite></cite></font><span class="page-actions"><cite class="source"></cite></span><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><font size="3"></font></font></p>

Instead, Paterno and the others did nothing.</p>

For
nearly a decade after graduate assistant Mike McQueary allegedly
witnessed Sandusky subjecting a 10-year-old boy to anal intercourse,
Sandusky had free reign of Penn State's football facilities. According
to published reports, Sandusky worked out in Penn State's weight room as
late as last week.
</p>

Paterno's "Grand Experiment" was supposed to be a blueprint for how
intercollegiate sports should work, a harmonious balance of academics
and athletics, which would ensure that the players who enrolled at Penn
State would be better men when they left.</p>

Somehow, Paterno's Grand Experiment became the Great Cover-up.</p>WOW, this is the worst incident to occur in sports probably in history..... The graphicness of that report made me want to vomit.

Too bad they dont have public stonings anymore, LOL

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Funny how all these ESPN writers and mostly everyone is saying what MH and I have.

It's not funny it's sad, expected, but sad, they will all off course pile on Joe Pa because it get's more viewers/readers.

News in general (sports or otherwise) no longer lets truth get in the way of good stories.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 04:18 PM
Told by a graduate assistant in 2002 that former Nittany Lions defensive
coordinator Jerry Sandusky had sexually assaulted a boy, believed to be
10 years old, in the showers of Penn State's football complex, Paterno
did nothing more than inform athletic director Tim Curley and university
vice president Gary Schultz of the allegation. Paterno never personally
called police. His son, Scott Paterno, told the Philadelphia Inquirer
on Wednesday that his father<font color="#0000FF"> never even asked</font> Sandusky -- his assistant
coach for three decades and who was once considered his heir apparent --
about the incident.

This wasn't a case of Paterno choosing to ignore
allegations of booster payments to a player or improper grade changes by
a professor. Paterno's inaction allegedly involved one of the most
heinous crimes a person can commit -- the rape of a child. While Paterno
has not been accused of legal wrongdoing -- authorities have said he
cooperated during the investigation -- he is guilty of gross
indifference, if nothing else. Morally, Paterno should have done more
and he now concedes it.

Sadly, it's too late for apologies. <font color="#0000FF">Paterno and
the others believed Sandusky was enough of a threat to children in 2002
to ban him from having youth sports camps on the Penn State campus or
from bringing children to the school's football facilities.</font> Apparently,
they just didn't believe Sandusky was enough of a threat to call police
about their concerns.

After informing Curley and Schultz of the
allegations, Paterno apparently never even bothered to ask why nothing
was done. <font color="#0000FF" size="4">Because of his status as an iconic coach on a football-crazed
campus, Paterno commanded attention and could have demanded an
investigation at any time.<cite></cite></font><span class="page-actions"><cite class="source"></cite></span><font color="#0000FF" size="4"><font size="3"></font></font></p>

Instead, Paterno and the others did nothing.</p>

For
nearly a decade after graduate assistant Mike McQueary allegedly
witnessed Sandusky subjecting a 10-year-old boy to anal intercourse,
Sandusky had free reign of Penn State's football facilities. According
to published reports, Sandusky worked out in Penn State's weight room as
late as last week.
</p>

Paterno's "Grand Experiment" was supposed to be a blueprint for how
intercollegiate sports should work, a harmonious balance of academics
and athletics, which would ensure that the players who enrolled at Penn
State would be better men when they left.</p>

Somehow, Paterno's Grand Experiment became the Great Cover-up.</p>

This is sensational reporting (I hope everyone understands that) but that doesn't mean there isn't a grain of truth in it.

I think the truth is Paterno in the end, became a jaded old man whose reputation was one of a morally righteous coach, but maybe that's not what he was anymore, but that's not illegal...and not really even immoral, <font color="#0000FF">I do not think there was anything wrong with him not personally demanding an investigation upon the FIRST complaint</font>....it was just a story he heard from someone who he may or may not have trusted who knows, he did what was necessary...passed it out to the AD, but as soon as a second (and god forbid third) similar complaint came in, being Joe Pa...being who he is and allowing his reputation to be what it is.....he HAS to push for the investigation at that point.

It was the third time...Don't tell me Joe Pa knew nothing about these first 2 incidents. These guys were best ****ing friends for decades.



1998

Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years
old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from
showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the
university police, who investigate.</p>

Detective Ronald Schreffler
testifies that he and State College Police Department Detective Ralph
Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim 6, eavesdrop on two
conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky. Sandusky says he
has showered with other boys and Victim 6's mother tries to make
Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not. At
the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see
Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, "I understand. I
was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from
you. I wish I were dead."</p>

Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the
Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler
interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with
Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that
it was wrong.</p>

The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.</p>

June 1999

Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status.</p>

Fall 2000

A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the
Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up
against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other
janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee
Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the
boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13.</p>

Calhoun
tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay
Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he
should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never
makes a report. Victim 8's identity is unknown.</p>

Kase-1
11-10-2011, 04:21 PM
Funny how all these ESPN writers and mostly everyone is saying what MH and I have.

It's not funny it's sad, expected, but sad, they will all off course pile on Joe Pa because it get's more viewers/readers.

News in general (sports or otherwise) no longer lets truth get in the way of good stories.
Joe Pa is morally wrong, but this isnt 'Seinfeld' you cant go to jail for that.

Sandusky is the one that should be locked away in a federal 'pound me in the ***' prison (office space anyone??)

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 04:22 PM
Funny how all these ESPN writers and mostly everyone is saying what MH and I have.

It's not funny it's sad, expected, but sad, they will all off course pile on Joe Pa because it get's more viewers/readers.

News in general (sports or otherwise) no longer lets truth get in the way of good stories.

They pile on him because of who he is and what he stands for, or should I say who he was and what he stood for. It gets more readers for the same reason. Every article I have read suggests he is just as much at fault as anyone else in the scenario ( as I have said also ) for not doing anything.

It sucks Sandusky will get put in protection in prison, he needs to spend a few night in gen public.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 04:23 PM
Tom Coughlin has won a Super Bowl, and he currently has the Giants in
first place, but that doesn’t mean players on other NFL teams would
want to play for him.</p>


In a Sporting News poll of 111 NFL players, Coughlin came in first place, with 22 votes, on the question, “Which coach would you least like to play for? (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2011-11/players-poll/story/midseason-player-poll-coughlin-least-desired-coach)“</p>


Bears defensive tackle Anthony Adams (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/473/anthony-adams) explained that most NFL players like a more flexible coach than the strong-willed Coughlin.</p>


“Coughlin is that old school, Bill Parcells, my way or the highway
type,” Adams said. “He won’t bend at all. That’s not the kind of coach
you’d like to play for.”</p>


Close on Coughlin’s heels was Dolphins coach Tony Sparano, who got 21
votes. Up next was Patriots coach Bill Belichick, who got 15 votes.</p>


There was a big drop-off after the Big 3 of Coughlin, Sparano and
Belichick: Seahawks coach Pete Carroll came in fourth with six votes,
and Chiefs coach Todd Haley, 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh and Jets coach Rex
Ryan got five votes apiece.</p>


Lions coach Jim Schwartz got four votes, and no other coach got more than two.</p>

dezzzR
11-10-2011, 04:25 PM
i think there a lot more to it
then were hearing. fat mike read a quote saying the kids were being
pimped out. if thats true theyve just scratched the surface. and the <font color="#ff0000">beloved </font>huff post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/penn-state-scandal-rumors-sandusky-pimping_n_1086099.html

Kase-1
11-10-2011, 04:29 PM
Funny how all these ESPN writers and mostly everyone is saying what MH and I have.

It's not funny it's sad, expected, but sad, they will all off course pile on Joe Pa because it get's more viewers/readers.

News in general (sports or otherwise) no longer lets truth get in the way of good stories.

They pile on him because of who he is and what he stands for, or should I say who he was and what he stood for. It gets more readers for the same reason. Every article I have read suggests he is just as much at fault as anyone else in the scenario ( as I have said also ) for not doing anything.

It sucks Sandusky will get put in protection in prison, he needs to spend a few night in gen public.
Ugh, the more I read/hear the more embarassed I am that I was a Penn State fan for so long

To hear that Joe Pa had knowledge just makes it that more rough, the dude was a freakin football God and now in my eyes he's a damned POS

Kase-1
11-10-2011, 04:33 PM
Trey Wingo KILLIN it on NFL Live

dropped Dumb &amp; Dumber, Caddyshack, and Tommy Boy references

In addition to calling Plax out for not practicing no matter what team he's on (hinting that its not due to injury, LOL)

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 04:34 PM
They pile on him because of who he is and what he stands for, or should I say who he was and what he stood for. It gets more readers for the same reason.

Exactly, and that's whats wrong with the Media in general, who cares who he is or what he stood for, the point is he was one man, who didn't go far enough, but everyone is going to remember him as the "devil" many people I've talked to think Paterno himself actually committed the rapes, instead of directing blame where it actually belongs...(and some of it IS towards Paterno) the take ALL the blame and direct it towards who ever the most recognizable name is to make the best "story" so they get the most viewers....so they can sell more ads/commercials...so they can make more money....it's got nothing to do with actually letting people know the truth or facts of the situation.




Every article I have read suggests he is just as much at fault as anyone else in the scenario ( as I have said also ) for not doing anything.

Of course they do, they are all vying for readers/viewers ...if the deviate from that "Paterno" name they are taking a chance...they might not get the same amount of viewers or readers and make less money....noone cares what the real story is.

And let me reiterate some of this blame lies squarely on Paterno's shoulders....but not nearly as much as what lies on the witness's shoulders.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 04:38 PM
Allegations of improper conduct with an underage male first
surfaced in 1998, while Sandusky was still employed by Penn State.
That incident allegedly occurred in a shower at Penn State's
on-campus football facility. No charges were filed.</p>



Sandusky retired the next year, in 1999. He was 55, prime age
for a coach. Odd, to say the least - especially with Joe Paterno
thought even then to be ready to quit and Sandusky a likely,
openly-discussed successor. "The other thing I think that may eventually become uncovered, and I
talked about this in my original article back in April, is that I think
they'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in
exchange for a cover-up,""If you look at the timeline, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
</p>




It seems logical to ask: What did Paterno know, and when did he
know it? What did Penn State's administration know, and when did
they know it?</p>Don't kid yourself. That could happen. <font color="#0000FF" size="4">Don't underestimate the
power of Paterno and Penn State in central Pennsylvania when it
comes to politicians, the police and the media.</font> Plenty of questions remain yet unanswered. Potentially among
them: What's more important, Penn State football or the welfare of
a few kids?

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 04:44 PM
Don't kid yourself. That could happen. <font size="4" color="#0000FF">Don't underestimate the
power of Paterno and Penn State in central Pennsylvania when it
comes to politicians, the police and the media.</font> Plenty of questions remain yet unanswered. Potentially among
them: What's more important, Penn State football or the welfare of
a few kids?

Why are you highlighting that? it's irrelevant...everyone knows that Head Coaches of Paterno's ilk have massive amounts of power in their community, I don't see what difference that makes though.

bigblue4417
11-10-2011, 04:47 PM
Don't kid yourself. That could happen. <font color="#0000FF" size="4">Don't underestimate the
power of Paterno and Penn State in central Pennsylvania when it
comes to politicians, the police and the media.</font> Plenty of questions remain yet unanswered. Potentially among
them: What's more important, Penn State football or the welfare of
a few kids?

Why are you highlighting that? it's irrelevant...everyone knows that Head Coaches of Paterno's ilk have massive amounts of power in their community, I don't see what difference that makes though.



Because Matt doesn't believe that.

DavenIII
11-10-2011, 04:59 PM
Don't kid yourself. That could happen. <font size="4" color="#0000FF">Don't underestimate the
power of Paterno and Penn State in central Pennsylvania when it
comes to politicians, the police and the media.</font> Plenty of questions remain yet unanswered. Potentially among
them: What's more important, Penn State football or the welfare of
a few kids?

Why are you highlighting that? it's irrelevant...everyone knows that Head Coaches of Paterno's ilk have massive amounts of power in their community, I don't see what difference that makes though.



Because Matt doesn't believe that.



oh ok then, I do believe that, I just think it's irrelevant to the discussion, it shoulda been stopped before Joe Pa even got involved.

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 08:04 AM
<FONT size=4>Denarius Moore!!!!!!!!!</FONT>

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 08:12 AM
BTW Matt. My lovely bride and I had our dinner with Lomas Brown last night. The first thing I did was ask him 2 questions and referred to my misguided friend. (Lets not name him....we'll just call him X Meyerbud).</P>


Question 1: Do the Giants play any version or evolution of the "Run and Shoot" offense?</P>


Lomas laughed his *** off. He said that he played in the run and shoot for years at Detroit under Wayne Fontes. He said, "we didn't even have a FB, and we almost never used a TE. It was getting our QB killed" He said that the run and shoot is dead in the NFL and nothing the Giants do resembles the run and shoot.</P>


Question 2: Is Eli playing much better this season?</P>


He didn't laugh but he did chuckle. He said that Eli is playing much better than last year. He said his confidence level is higher than he had ever seen. And he follows the Giants. As a matter of fact when he walked into the restaurant the first thing he said to me was "we're having a great season so far".</P>


He also said that he would like to come to our tailgate party next season. I said that ESPN should broadcast it to see how real fans live. He thought it was a great idea. I did however warn him of the general depravity of our group. He seemed like he thought he could handle it.</P>

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 08:21 AM
BTW Matt. My lovely bride and I had our dinner with Lomas Brown last night. The first thing I did was ask him 2 questions and referred to my misguided friend. (Lets not name him....we'll just call him X Meyerbud).</p>


Question 1: Do the Giants play any version or evolution of the "Run and Shoot" offense?</p>


Lomas laughed his *** off. He said that he played in the run and shoot for years at Detroit under Wayne Fontes. He said, "we didn't even have a FB, and we almost never used a TE. It was getting our QB killed" He said that the run and shoot is dead in the NFL and nothing the Giants do resembles the run and shoot.</p>


Question 2: Is Eli playing much better this season?</p>


He didn't laugh but he did chuckle. He said that Eli is playing much better than last year. He said his confidence level is higher than he had ever seen. And he follows the Giants. As a matter of fact when he walked into the restaurant the first thing he said to me was "we're having a great season so far".</p>


He also said that he would like to come to our tailgate party next season. I said that ESPN should broadcast it to see how real fans live. He thought it was a great idea. I did however warn him of the general depravity of our group. He seemed like he thought he could handle it.</p>MH-I did not know that was a yearly thing with Lomas. Didn't you have dinner at the cheesecake factory with him last spring?

That is amazing he is interested in attending our tailgate. Potential ESPN coverage is exciting. It looks like Pizz will one day truly be an internet celebrity.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 08:29 AM
From Jemelle Hill:

For a man of Paterno's stature to turn his back on a child, to allow
what appears to be a serial child predator to continue to have access to
his program -- shockingly, Sandusky maintained an office across the
street from the Penn State football team's building -- is totally
unforgivable.

<font color="#0000FF">Legally, Paterno is clear. Morally, he is as guilty as any
of the adults who maintained a code of inactivity -- especially
McQueary, who chose to flee the building rather than assist a helpless
child.</font>

If Sandusky is proved guilty, he is obviously the worst monster in
this sordid horror story. But it isn't a stretch to suggest that
Paterno played the role of Dr. Frankenstein. He didn't create the
monster, but if Sandusky is guilty, then Paterno is at least partially
responsible for the tragedies of every one of the victims assaulted
after that unidentified boy in the shower.



Funny how all these ESPN writers and mostly everyone is saying what MH and I have.


<font color="#0000FF">Legally, Paterno is clear. Morally, he is as guilty as any
of the adults who maintained a code of inactivity -- especially
McQueary, who chose to flee the building rather than assist a helpless
child.</font>

This is what Matt, Daven and I have been saying since the beginning.

Paterno is clear legally, therefore I would consider if he were to take suit against the university if he would have a case for wrongful termination. I don't think that would ever happen, but what if?

Morally is the area that he failed. HOWEVER-it appears that everyone failed in this area. Why is Joe being held more accountable than the other's?

I'll go back to my theory that Joe lived and slept football, that is all he focused on from the minute he walked in the door to his coaches office. He heard of the incident, reported it and moved on to focus on his job as coach of the football team.

There is more than enough substance here for Joe to litigate his termination.

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 08:30 AM
BTW Matt. My lovely bride and I had our dinner with Lomas Brown last night. The first thing I did was ask him 2 questions and referred to my misguided friend. (Lets not name him....we'll just call him X Meyerbud).</P>


Question 1: Do the Giants play any version or evolution of the "Run and Shoot" offense?</P>


Lomas laughed his *** off. He said that he played in the run and shoot for years at Detroit under Wayne Fontes. He said, "we didn't even have a FB, and we almost never used a TE. It was getting our QB killed" He said that the run and shoot is dead in the NFL and nothing the Giants do resembles the run and shoot.</P>


Question 2: Is Eli playing much better this season?</P>


He didn't laugh but he did chuckle. He said that Eli is playing much better than last year. He said his confidence level is higher than he had ever seen. And he follows the Giants. As a matter of fact when he walked into the restaurant the first thing he said to me was "we're having a great season so far".</P>


He also said that he would like to come to our tailgate party next season. I said that ESPN should broadcast it to see how real fans live. He thought it was a great idea. I did however warn him of the general depravity of our group. He seemed like he thought he could handle it.</P>


MH-I did not know that was a yearly thing with Lomas. Didn't you have dinner at the cheesecake factory with him last spring?

That is amazing he is interested in attending our tailgate. Potential ESPN coverage is exciting. It looks like Pizz will one day truly be an internet celebrity.


</P>


Well we went to dinner last January. He asked us for his help to get local support for a camp he wants to run for underprivaledged kids in either Bridgeport or Hartford. I told him I could also give the kids some pointers on proper throwing mechanics and other football instruction.</P>


He just wants the names of some local Companies that he could approach. He runs a few camps back in Michigan where he lives. Really a nice guy. He even laughed when, after he was talking about some of the shoulder pain he still has, I said "well it must from all that holding".</P>


You know how Morehead can be.</P>

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 08:35 AM
The 49ers have not allowed a touchdown to an opposing running back at home all year.Don't like this stat--Our run game hasn't been great this year, but it has given Eli something for him to fall back on when needed. I don't want to put the entire game on Eli's shoulder's passing-that's not fair to him. He can probably handle the way he's playing now, but that when mistakes are more likely to happen. So they have not allowed a rb td, thats ok, as long as we can still gain yards and some 1st downs running.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 08:39 AM
BTW Matt. My lovely bride and I had our dinner with Lomas Brown last night. The first thing I did was ask him 2 questions and referred to my misguided friend. (Lets not name him....we'll just call him X Meyerbud).</p>


Question 1: Do the Giants play any version or evolution of the "Run and Shoot" offense?</p>


Lomas laughed his *** off. He said that he played in the run and shoot for years at Detroit under Wayne Fontes. He said, "we didn't even have a FB, and we almost never used a TE. It was getting our QB killed" He said that the run and shoot is dead in the NFL and nothing the Giants do resembles the run and shoot.</p>


Question 2: Is Eli playing much better this season?</p>


He didn't laugh but he did chuckle. He said that Eli is playing much better than last year. He said his confidence level is higher than he had ever seen. And he follows the Giants. As a matter of fact when he walked into the restaurant the first thing he said to me was "we're having a great season so far".</p>


He also said that he would like to come to our tailgate party next season. I said that ESPN should broadcast it to see how real fans live. He thought it was a great idea. I did however warn him of the general depravity of our group. He seemed like he thought he could handle it.</p>


MH-I did not know that was a yearly thing with Lomas. Didn't you have dinner at the cheesecake factory with him last spring?

That is amazing he is interested in attending our tailgate. Potential ESPN coverage is exciting. It looks like Pizz will one day truly be an internet celebrity.


</p>


Well we went to dinner last January. He asked us for his help to get local support for a camp he wants to run for underprivaledged kids in either Bridgeport or Hartford. I told him I could also give the kids some pointers on proper throwing mechanics and other football instruction.</p>


He just wants the names of some local Companies that he could approach. He runs a few camps back in Michigan where he lives. Really a nice guy. He even laughed when, after he was talking about some of the shoulder pain he still has, I said "well it must from all that holding".</p>


You know how Morehead can be.</p>lol-Moorehead was funny on that one!

Bridgeport or Hartford, huh? I am not proud to say that I am right over the border of the cesspool aka Bridgeport. I don't go that way at lunch. Let me know if this progresses--I would be happy to see if we can get him some pr-media exposure for the camp.

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 08:42 AM
BTW Matt. My lovely bride and I had our dinner with Lomas Brown last night. The first thing I did was ask him 2 questions and referred to my misguided friend. (Lets not name him....we'll just call him X Meyerbud).</P>


Question 1: Do the Giants play any version or evolution of the "Run and Shoot" offense?</P>


Lomas laughed his *** off. He said that he played in the run and shoot for years at Detroit under Wayne Fontes. He said, "we didn't even have a FB, and we almost never used a TE. It was getting our QB killed" He said that the run and shoot is dead in the NFL and nothing the Giants do resembles the run and shoot.</P>


Question 2: Is Eli playing much better this season?</P>


He didn't laugh but he did chuckle. He said that Eli is playing much better than last year. He said his confidence level is higher than he had ever seen. And he follows the Giants. As a matter of fact when he walked into the restaurant the first thing he said to me was "we're having a great season so far".</P>


He also said that he would like to come to our tailgate party next season. I said that ESPN should broadcast it to see how real fans live. He thought it was a great idea. I did however warn him of the general depravity of our group. He seemed like he thought he could handle it.</P>


MH-I did not know that was a yearly thing with Lomas. Didn't you have dinner at the cheesecake factory with him last spring?

That is amazing he is interested in attending our tailgate. Potential ESPN coverage is exciting. It looks like Pizz will one day truly be an internet celebrity.


</P>


Well we went to dinner last January. He asked us for his help to get local support for a camp he wants to run for underprivaledged kids in either Bridgeport or Hartford. I told him I could also give the kids some pointers on proper throwing mechanics and other football instruction.</P>


He just wants the names of some local Companies that he could approach. He runs a few camps back in Michigan where he lives. Really a nice guy. He even laughed when, after he was talking about some of the shoulder pain he still has, I said "well it must from all that holding".</P>


You know how Morehead can be.</P>


lol-Moorehead was funny on that one!

Bridgeport or Hartford, huh? I am not proud to say that I am right over the border of the cesspool aka Bridgeport. I don't go that way at lunch. Let me know if this progresses--I would be happy to see if we can get him some pr-media exposure for the camp.
</P>


I'm sure he would appreciate that LT. I'll talk to you when the time gets nearer and the schedule for the camp is set.</P>

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 08:53 AM
BTW Matt. My lovely bride and I had our dinner with Lomas Brown last night. The first thing I did was ask him 2 questions and referred to my misguided friend. (Lets not name him....we'll just call him X Meyerbud).</p>


Question 1: Do the Giants play any version or evolution of the "Run and Shoot" offense?</p>


Lomas laughed his *** off. He said that he played in the run and shoot for years at Detroit under Wayne Fontes. He said, "we didn't even have a FB, and we almost never used a TE. It was getting our QB killed" He said that the run and shoot is dead in the NFL and nothing the Giants do resembles the run and shoot.</p>


Question 2: Is Eli playing much better this season?</p>


He didn't laugh but he did chuckle. He said that Eli is playing much better than last year. He said his confidence level is higher than he had ever seen. And he follows the Giants. As a matter of fact when he walked into the restaurant the first thing he said to me was "we're having a great season so far".</p>


He also said that he would like to come to our tailgate party next season. I said that ESPN should broadcast it to see how real fans live. He thought it was a great idea. I did however warn him of the general depravity of our group. He seemed like he thought he could handle it.</p>


MH-I did not know that was a yearly thing with Lomas. Didn't you have dinner at the cheesecake factory with him last spring?

That is amazing he is interested in attending our tailgate. Potential ESPN coverage is exciting. It looks like Pizz will one day truly be an internet celebrity.


</p>


Well we went to dinner last January. He asked us for his help to get local support for a camp he wants to run for underprivaledged kids in either Bridgeport or Hartford. I told him I could also give the kids some pointers on proper throwing mechanics and other football instruction.</p>


He just wants the names of some local Companies that he could approach. He runs a few camps back in Michigan where he lives. Really a nice guy. He even laughed when, after he was talking about some of the shoulder pain he still has, I said "well it must from all that holding".</p>


You know how Morehead can be.</p>


lol-Moorehead was funny on that one!

Bridgeport or Hartford, huh? I am not proud to say that I am right over the border of the cesspool aka Bridgeport. I don't go that way at lunch. Let me know if this progresses--I would be happy to see if we can get him some pr-media exposure for the camp.
</p>


I'm sure he would appreciate that LT. I'll talk to you when the time gets nearer and the schedule for the camp is set.</p>Excellent! Is your house and property prepared for our fierce New England Winters?

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 09:12 AM
Did you ask him about Steve's?

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 09:13 AM
<font size="4">Denarius Moore!!!!!!!!!</font>
<font size="4">Michael Bush!!!!!!!!!!!</font>

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 09:22 AM
Lando-you at home today?

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 09:26 AM
Did you ask him about Steve's?
</P>


<FONT size=5>****!!!!!!</FONT></P>

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 09:27 AM
<FONT size=4>Denarius Moore!!!!!!!!!</FONT>
<FONT size=4>Michael Bush!!!!!!!!!!!</FONT>
</P>


<FONT size=1>VJax??????</FONT></P>

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 09:43 AM
http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-books.jpg

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 10:01 AM
rivers blew another one last night

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 10:09 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</P>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</P>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</P>

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 10:18 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</p>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</p>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</p>oh silly mh, you killed eli for doing the same foolish things rivers was doing last night, throwing into double coverage multiple times, he even did the shuffle pass, to nobody

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 10:19 AM
Lando-you at home today?

No, I'm at work now but I live breath and sleep MH so when I woke up I had to hurry upstairs and see if he said anything positive to start my day with.

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 10:20 AM
Did you ask him about Steve's?
</p>


<font size="5">****!!!!!!</font></p>
http://www.fumbledreturns.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/cmonman.png

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 10:21 AM
Lando-you at home today?

No, I'm at work now but I live breath and sleep MH so when I woke up I had to hurry upstairs and see if he said anything positive to start my day with.
</P>


Funny...I was thinking the same thing about you.</P>

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 10:43 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</p>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</p>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</p>

ROFL Something goes wrong for Rivers..."wr's" fault, somethin goes wrong for Eli, Eli's fault.

It's always like this with you, Rivers is terrible always has been, he puts up numbers but he's terrible Eli has been better from the day we drafted him till now.

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 10:47 AM
<font size="4">Denarius Moore!!!!!!!!!</font>
<font size="4">Michael Bush!!!!!!!!!!!</font>
</p>


<font size="1">VJax??????</font></p>
Moore made up for his stinker...

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 10:49 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</p>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</p>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</p>

ROFL Something goes wrong for Rivers..."wr's" fault, somethin goes wrong for Eli, Eli's fault.

It's always like this with you, Rivers is terrible always has been, he puts up numbers but he's terrible Eli has been better from the day we drafted him till now.

He was speaking about one play Daven. lol

Losing his lineman was the main issue but the Raiders historically have had the Chargers number.

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 10:54 AM
<font size="4">Denarius Moore!!!!!!!!!</font>
<font size="4">Michael Bush!!!!!!!!!!!</font>
</p>


<font size="1">VJax??????</font></p>
Moore made up for his stinker...
yea he looks pretty good.

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 11:03 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</p>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</p>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</p>

ROFL Something goes wrong for Rivers..."wr's" fault, somethin goes wrong for Eli, Eli's fault.

It's always like this with you, Rivers is terrible always has been, he puts up numbers but he's terrible Eli has been better from the day we drafted him till now.

He was speaking about one play Daven. lol


Yes I know, one play that had it happened to Eli, would have been Eli's fault, but because it wasn't Eli it was Vincent Jackson's fault....just another example of the hatred our friend morehead has towards our Team Leader and all around good guy and Elite QB, Eli.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 11:13 AM
Lando-you at home today?

No, I'm at work now but I live breath and sleep MH so when I woke up I had to hurry upstairs and see if he said anything positive to start my day with.
</p>


Funny...I was thinking the same thing about you.</p>I live for Dezz's-JP's and mmb's contributions. Ah hell, I remember a quote from the Howard Stern Movie, Most common answer from listeners was :" I can't wait to hear what he is going to say next"

That's how I feel about all you guy's.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 11:15 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</p>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</p>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</p>

ROFL Something goes wrong for Rivers..."wr's" fault, somethin goes wrong for Eli, Eli's fault.

It's always like this with you, Rivers is terrible always has been, he puts up numbers but he's terrible Eli has been better from the day we drafted him till now.

He was speaking about one play Daven. lol


Yes I know, one play that had it happened to Eli, would have been Eli's fault, but because it wasn't Eli it was Vincent Jackson's fault....just another example of the hatred our friend morehead has towards our Team Leader and all around good guy and Elite QB, Eli.
Eli is going to be signing at Last Licks Ice Creamm in Scarsdale, NY Tues 11/15 from 6:30 to 8:00. I have met Eli twice, he signed a mini-helmet for me. I don't know if I can make it Tues night, but if I could, I wanna give that Dopey Kid the biggest hug for playing as well as he did in New England. Take my team to the promise land Eli, I know you can do it.

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 11:32 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</P>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</P>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</P>




ROFL Something goes wrong for Rivers..."wr's" fault, somethin goes wrong for Eli, Eli's fault.

It's always like this with you, Rivers is terrible always has been, he puts up numbers but he's terrible Eli has been better from the day we drafted him till now.

He was speaking about one play Daven. lol


Yes I know, one play that had it happened to Eli, would have been Eli's fault, but because it wasn't Eli it was Vincent Jackson's fault....just another example of the hatred our friend morehead has towards our Team Leader and all around good guy and Elite QB, Eli.
</P>


Scrappy is back!!</P>


The foolishness, the hysterics, the nonsense, the lashing out, the constantly being wrong!!!</P>


All is right with the universe!! </P>

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 11:50 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</p>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</p>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</p>




ROFL Something goes wrong for Rivers..."wr's" fault, somethin goes wrong for Eli, Eli's fault.

It's always like this with you, Rivers is terrible always has been, he puts up numbers but he's terrible Eli has been better from the day we drafted him till now.

He was speaking about one play Daven. lol


Yes I know, one play that had it happened to Eli, would have been Eli's fault, but because it wasn't Eli it was Vincent Jackson's fault....just another example of the hatred our friend morehead has towards our Team Leader and all around good guy and Elite QB, Eli.
</p>


Scrappy is back!!</p>


The foolishness, the hysterics, the nonsense, the lashing out, the constantly being wrong!!!</p>


All is right with the universe!! </p>

Whenever you start calling me scrappy I know I'm getting to ya, and that's good enough for me, maybe one day you'll start accepting Eli for what he is, the best QB to ever wear a New York Football Giants Uniform....I hope I'm still around to see you come to that realization.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 11:53 AM
rivers blew another one last night
</p>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</p>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</p>




ROFL Something goes wrong for Rivers..."wr's" fault, somethin goes wrong for Eli, Eli's fault.

It's always like this with you, Rivers is terrible always has been, he puts up numbers but he's terrible Eli has been better from the day we drafted him till now.

He was speaking about one play Daven. lol


Yes I know, one play that had it happened to Eli, would have been Eli's fault, but because it wasn't Eli it was Vincent Jackson's fault....just another example of the hatred our friend morehead has towards our Team Leader and all around good guy and Elite QB, Eli.
</p>


Scrappy is back!!</p>


The foolishness, the hysterics, the nonsense, the lashing out, the constantly being wrong!!!</p>


All is right with the universe!! </p>

Whenever you start calling me scrappy I know I'm getting to ya, and that's good enough for me, maybe one day you'll start accepting Eli for what he is, the best QB to ever wear a New York Football Giants Uniform....I hope I'm still around to see you come to that realization.
Here we go....Luv ya Daven

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 12:10 PM
<div class="report">


Hakeem Nicks (hamstring) is practicing again on Friday.</p>
</div>

Beat writers expect Nicks to play against the
49ers as long as there's no setback in the next two days. In a tough
matchup against stifling CB Carlos Rogers

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 12:37 PM
If <span class="ysp-player">Fred Jackson's (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8063/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8063/news)</span> looking for some extra motivation for this weekend's game against the Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/dal/), he can always remember the fact that Jerry Jones tore down his childhood home.


In fairness to Jones, this happened way before he ever knew of Fred
Jackson, and a lot of other peoples' homes suffered the same fate. See,
Jones needed someplace to build his new stadium, and that happened to be
the site of Fred Jackson's old neighborhood. The Bills official website tells the story in this video (http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Bills-Focus-Running-Back-Home/aab99577-1c1f-4503-9246-4f5c0e93a556).</p>


This all happened in 2004, when Jones was just putting together plans
for his giant football palace, and Fred Jackson was plying his trade
for the Sioux City Bandits of the National Indoor Football League.</p>


Jackson's not mad about it, though. He and his family were Cowboys
fans, and he was kind of excited that his home was getting the wrecking
ball so that an NFL stadium could be built.</p>
<blockquote>

"The house I grew up in was torn down to put the stadium up, so I got a little bit of home-field advantage that way."</p>


"It was kind of weird because you were, you know, like, 'Pretty cool.
They're going to put up a stadium up here, but I gotta move.' It was
one of those things where you were sad to move, because it was where you
grew up and we were looking for a new house and all these things, but
the goal was always to get into the NFL, and if I get there, hopefully
I'll get to play in this stadium one day."</p></blockquote>


He will indeed, and that day will be Sunday, as Jackson and his 5-3 Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/)
play a pivotal game against the 4-4 Dallas Cowboys. Jackson will be
spending some of his time before the game looking around the place,
figuring out where some of the landmarks of his childhood would now
reside within Cowboys Stadium.</p>
<blockquote>

"Definitely during pregame, when I'm out there getting
loose, trying to figure out, piece it together, you know, 'This is my
friend Jason's house, would be right here where I am now.' Things like
that, I'm sure, will be going through my head during pregame, and I'll
definitely be looking for stuff like that."</p></blockquote>
<center>http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/6c/6ca9ec2e922d05ff219a822d2bc8a8f8/jerry_jones_built_cowboys_stadium_on_fred_jacksons _old_house.jpg</center>



</p><p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1321032975673_568">Hopefully for Fred, he'll be
able to figure some of those things out, and do play-by-play commentary
for himself as he runs for the end zone. "Jackson has the ball, he slips
behind Old Man McGinty's convenience store, weaves around Phil's old
house, right through Miss Parker's bedroom, TOUCHDOWN! Now I'm going to
spike the ball right where I frenched Mary Louise Jefferson in the
eighth grade."</p>


</p>

That last part is hilarious!
</p>

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 12:52 PM
will alex smith put up over 300 yards vs the giants sunday?

lawl
11-11-2011, 12:54 PM
This is the only year in their entire careers that Eli has outplayed rivers.

It's nuts how much you guys are hatin.

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 12:59 PM
rivers blew another one last night
</P>


Really? Seems like VJax quitting on a play had a lot to do with it. Plus he had no time to throw all day. Lost two O lineman during the game.</P>


Hanging that one on Rivers is foolish.</P>




ROFL Something goes wrong for Rivers..."wr's" fault, somethin goes wrong for Eli, Eli's fault.

It's always like this with you, Rivers is terrible always has been, he puts up numbers but he's terrible Eli has been better from the day we drafted him till now.

He was speaking about one play Daven. lol


Yes I know, one play that had it happened to Eli, would have been Eli's fault, but because it wasn't Eli it was Vincent Jackson's fault....just another example of the hatred our friend morehead has towards our Team Leader and all around good guy and Elite QB, Eli.
</P>


Scrappy is back!!</P>


The foolishness, the hysterics, the nonsense, the lashing out, the constantly being wrong!!!</P>


All is right with the universe!! </P>




Whenever you start calling me scrappy I know I'm getting to ya, and that's good enough for me, maybe one day you'll start accepting Eli for what he is, the best QB to ever wear a New York Football Giants Uniform....I hope I'm still around to see you come to that realization.
</P>


Well then everyone wins, don't they?</P>


I love it when it all works out.</P>

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 01:04 PM
This is the only year in their entire careers that Eli has outplayed rivers.

It's nuts how much you guys are hatin.

I disagree, but I've always thought Rivers was highly overrated, he's put up numbers...but I'd never have wanted him as our QB for the giants...he's weak, he cracks under pressure he's not the type of player I'd want on the Giants personally.

lawl
11-11-2011, 01:09 PM
This is the only year in their entire careers that Eli has outplayed rivers.

It's nuts how much you guys are hatin.

I disagree, but I've always thought Rivers was highly overrated, he's put up numbers...but I'd never have wanted him as our QB for the giants...he's weak, he cracks under pressure he's not the type of player I'd want on the Giants personally.


I don't want him either, but I challenge you to name a season where he didn't outplay Eli.

Also, cracks under pressure? Dont remember the comeback victory against us? Or him finishing a playoff game with a torn acl? How exactly is that weak and cracking under pressure?

Speaking of cracking under pressure. Eli has been dreadful in 3 out of his 4 trips to the playoffs.

shocknaweny
11-11-2011, 01:09 PM
PM Lando.
Your turn
</P>


</P>


Micheal Bush....Wow !!! </P>


Lando I needed those points u *******....hahahahaha ( I should have made a deal to get him 4 weeks ago )</P>


anyway Mathews **** the bed again...I will need Jacksonville D' to get 30 points if I am going to win this week.</P>

shocknaweny
11-11-2011, 01:12 PM
<FONT size=4>Denarius Moore!!!!!!!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


nice job MH !</P>

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 01:15 PM
I don't want him either, but I challenge you to name a season where he didn't outplay Eli.

I think Eli get's more out of the Giants, I think he makes our Team better and is therefore "outplaying" Rivers pretty much every single season, I think roles reversed the Chargers would have at least one if not multiple superbowl championships.

If you are asking me to show you some statistic that shows Eli's better? well 4th Quarter he's better but besides that I can't, except to say look at this season....but to me it's not about statistics.

I think Eli is better then Rivers in pretty much every conceivable way..I think he's more accurate, makes better decisions, is harder to bring down, is smarter...everything, I think he beats Rivers in absolutely everything.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:19 PM
If <span class="ysp-player">Fred Jackson's (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8063/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8063/news)</span> looking for some extra motivation for this weekend's game against the Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/dal/), he can always remember the fact that Jerry Jones tore down his childhood home.


In fairness to Jones, this happened way before he ever knew of Fred
Jackson, and a lot of other peoples' homes suffered the same fate. See,
Jones needed someplace to build his new stadium, and that happened to be
the site of Fred Jackson's old neighborhood. The Bills official website tells the story in this video (http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Bills-Focus-Running-Back-Home/aab99577-1c1f-4503-9246-4f5c0e93a556).</p>


This all happened in 2004, when Jones was just putting together plans
for his giant football palace, and Fred Jackson was plying his trade
for the Sioux City Bandits of the National Indoor Football League.</p>


Jackson's not mad about it, though. He and his family were Cowboys
fans, and he was kind of excited that his home was getting the wrecking
ball so that an NFL stadium could be built.</p>
<blockquote>

"The house I grew up in was torn down to put the stadium up, so I got a little bit of home-field advantage that way."</p>


"It was kind of weird because you were, you know, like, 'Pretty cool.
They're going to put up a stadium up here, but I gotta move.' It was
one of those things where you were sad to move, because it was where you
grew up and we were looking for a new house and all these things, but
the goal was always to get into the NFL, and if I get there, hopefully
I'll get to play in this stadium one day."</p></blockquote>


He will indeed, and that day will be Sunday, as Jackson and his 5-3 Buffalo Bills (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/)
play a pivotal game against the 4-4 Dallas Cowboys. Jackson will be
spending some of his time before the game looking around the place,
figuring out where some of the landmarks of his childhood would now
reside within Cowboys Stadium.</p>
<blockquote>

"Definitely during pregame, when I'm out there getting
loose, trying to figure out, piece it together, you know, 'This is my
friend Jason's house, would be right here where I am now.' Things like
that, I'm sure, will be going through my head during pregame, and I'll
definitely be looking for stuff like that."</p></blockquote>
<center>http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/6c/6ca9ec2e922d05ff219a822d2bc8a8f8/jerry_jones_built_cowboys_stadium_on_fred_jacksons _old_house.jpg</center>



</p><p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1321032975673_568">Hopefully for Fred, he'll be
able to figure some of those things out, and do play-by-play commentary
for himself as he runs for the end zone. "Jackson has the ball, he slips
behind Old Man McGinty's convenience store, weaves around Phil's old
house, right through Miss Parker's bedroom, TOUCHDOWN! Now I'm going to
spike the ball right where I frenched Mary Louise Jefferson in the
eighth grade."</p>


</p>

That last part is hilarious!
</p>haha

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:22 PM
will alex smith put up over 300 yards vs the giants sunday?
Maybe, but as long as we win, I'm cool with that. We are used to being in tight games this year and coming out on top. That experience is invaluable.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:23 PM
http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-britney.jpg

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 01:25 PM
I don't want him either, but I challenge you to name a season where he didn't outplay Eli.

I think Eli get's more out of the Giants, I think he makes our Team better and is therefore "outplaying" Rivers pretty much every single season, I think roles reversed the Chargers would have at least one if not multiple superbowl championships.

If you are asking me to show you some statistic that shows Eli's better? well 4th Quarter he's better but besides that I can't, except to say look at this season....but to me it's not about statistics.

I think Eli is better then Rivers in pretty much every conceivable way..I think he's more accurate, makes better decisions, is harder to bring down, is smarter...everything, I think he beats Rivers in absolutely everything.
i imagine elis stats would look very similar to rivers if he played in a weak division and in 70 degree weather every home game.

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 01:25 PM
Hey LT I been meaning to ask, that Girl in your signature, is that girl real? it looks like some sort of doll to me.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:31 PM
Hey LT I been meaning to ask, that Girl in your signature, is that girl real? it looks like some sort of doll to me.
Yeah, she's real, it is Tara Bab****. She looks so perfect in that pic. Something about her besides the airbrushing that almost turns me off a little. haha, I'm very particular with my internet porn. Beautiful pic though.

shocknaweny
11-11-2011, 01:34 PM
PM Lando...

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 01:36 PM
PM Lando.
Your turn
</p>


</p>


Micheal Bush....Wow !!! </p>


Lando I needed those points u *******....hahahahaha ( I should have made a deal to get him 4 weeks ago )</p>


anyway Mathews **** the bed again...I will need Jacksonville D' to get 30 points if I am going to win this week.</p>
Yeah, he killed it man. McFadden has not even started walking yet. Kind of worrisome.

Matthews is not healthy yet I don't think, plus when they got down they abandoned the run.

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 01:39 PM
PM Lando...
Back at ya.

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 01:41 PM
Hey LT I been meaning to ask, that Girl in your signature, is that girl real? it looks like some sort of doll to me.
Yeah, she's real, it is Tara Bab****. She looks so perfect in that pic. Something about her besides the airbrushing that almost turns me off a little. haha, I'm very particular with my internet porn. Beautiful pic though.


Yeah something turns me off about that picture....this one's better imho :P

http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/article/944/944397/babe-of-the-day-tara-bab****-20090113095834428_640w.jpg

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:41 PM
What would YOUR reaction be?

My ego would not allow me to consider anything other than my wife was surprising me with a 3some. and even if it were not the case, my objective would be to close that deal.

http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-oddly_Enough.jpg

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 01:41 PM
Hey LT I been meaning to ask, that Girl in your signature, is that girl real? it looks like some sort of doll to me.
Yeah, she's real, it is Tara Bab****. She looks so perfect in that pic. Something about her besides the airbrushing that almost turns me off a little. haha, I'm very particular with my internet porn. Beautiful pic though.

http://fitbodyhype.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/7a13c-tara_bab****_49aa5bd47b87a_K585xqv.jpg

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:42 PM
Hey LT I been meaning to ask, that Girl in your signature, is that girl real? it looks like some sort of doll to me.
Yeah, she's real, it is Tara Bab****. She looks so perfect in that pic. Something about her besides the airbrushing that almost turns me off a little. haha, I'm very particular with my internet porn. Beautiful pic though.


Yeah something turns me off about that picture....this one's better imho :P

http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/article/944/944397/babe-of-the-day-tara-bab****-20090113095834428_640w.jpg
[Y] thems is some serious lungs lol

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 01:43 PM
<div class="report">


Texans coach Gary Kubiak ruled out Andre Johnson (hamstring) for Week 10 at his press conference Friday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Jacoby Jones, who is Houston's leader in targets
since Johnson went down six games ago, will make one last start. The
Texans have played this situation well, making sure Johnson doesn't come
back at less than full strength to re-injure himself. And they've won
three straight games. He should return as an every-down wideout when
the Texans emerge from their bye in Week 12.
</div>

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:45 PM
It's Friday-Seems like an appropriate time for

http://www.americancurvesmag.com/galleries/jenna-webb/#!lightbox[auto_group]/5/ (http://www.americancurvesmag.com/galleries/jenna-webb/#%21lightbox[auto_group]/5/)

http://www.americancurvesmag.com/nooner/images/2011/Nov-11-JennaWebb.jpg

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:46 PM
<div class="report">


Texans coach Gary Kubiak ruled out Andre Johnson (hamstring) for Week 10 at his press conference Friday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Jacoby Jones, who is Houston's leader in targets
since Johnson went down six games ago, will make one last start. The
Texans have played this situation well, making sure Johnson doesn't come
back at less than full strength to re-injure himself. And they've won
three straight games. He should return as an every-down wideout when
the Texans emerge from their bye in Week 12.
</div>Lando-I want 4 lombardi's in your sig this season.

Kase-1
11-11-2011, 01:46 PM
<div class="report">


Texans coach Gary Kubiak ruled out Andre Johnson (hamstring) for Week 10 at his press conference Friday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Jacoby Jones, who is Houston's leader in targets
since Johnson went down six games ago, will make one last start. The
Texans have played this situation well, making sure Johnson doesn't come
back at less than full strength to re-injure himself. And they've won
three straight games. He should return as an every-down wideout when
the Texans emerge from their bye in Week 12.
</div>In my other league I have him AND peyton hillis.... This year in FF has been nuts

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 01:48 PM
It wasn’t the greatest night for Chargers fans.</p>


They watched Raiders fans take over their stadium. They watched the Chargers lose (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/). One fan became a suspect (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/) in a stabbing after the game.</p>


Another fan in his 20's wearing Chargers gear was found in an elderly woman’s house (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/), asleep on the couch in her living room.</p>


Officer Frank Cali of the San Diego Police Department tells the San Diego Union-Tribune that an 81-year-old woman reported finding the Chargers fan passed out on her couch around 7:20 a.m. ET.</p>


The man was taken into custody and charged with being drunk in
public. Apparently “public” includes the couches of 81-year-old women.</p>

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 01:50 PM
<div class="report">


Texans coach Gary Kubiak ruled out Andre Johnson (hamstring) for Week 10 at his press conference Friday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Jacoby Jones, who is Houston's leader in targets
since Johnson went down six games ago, will make one last start. The
Texans have played this situation well, making sure Johnson doesn't come
back at less than full strength to re-injure himself. And they've won
three straight games. He should return as an every-down wideout when
the Texans emerge from their bye in Week 12.
</div>In my other league I have him AND peyton hillis.... This year in FF has been nuts
lol dude, i have mcfadden, hightower, and hillis. im finished.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 01:51 PM
It wasn’t the greatest night for Chargers fans.</p>


They watched Raiders fans take over their stadium. They watched the Chargers lose (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/). One fan became a suspect (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/) in a stabbing after the game.</p>


Another fan in his 20's wearing Chargers gear was found in an elderly woman’s house (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/), asleep on the couch in her living room.</p>


Officer Frank Cali of the San Diego Police Department tells the San Diego Union-Tribune that an 81-year-old woman reported finding the Chargers fan passed out on her couch around 7:20 a.m. ET.</p>


The man was taken into custody and charged with being drunk in
public. Apparently “public” includes the couches of 81-year-old women.</p>Dam, he got off easy. What about breaking and entering to get in the house? Isn't it usually the Raiders fans knifing people at the black hole?

shocknaweny
11-11-2011, 01:52 PM
another PM Lando.</P>


</P>

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 01:54 PM
It wasn’t the greatest night for Chargers fans.</p>


They watched Raiders fans take over their stadium. They watched the Chargers lose (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/). One fan became a suspect (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/) in a stabbing after the game.</p>


Another fan in his 20's wearing Chargers gear was found in an elderly woman’s house (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/), asleep on the couch in her living room.</p>


Officer Frank Cali of the San Diego Police Department tells the San Diego Union-Tribune that an 81-year-old woman reported finding the Chargers fan passed out on her couch around 7:20 a.m. ET.</p>


The man was taken into custody and charged with being drunk in
public. Apparently “public” includes the couches of 81-year-old women.</p>lol sounds like he had a legendary night

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 01:55 PM
It wasn’t the greatest night for Chargers fans.</p>


They watched Raiders fans take over their stadium. They watched the Chargers lose (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/). One fan became a suspect (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/) in a stabbing after the game.</p>


Another fan in his 20's wearing Chargers gear was found in an elderly woman’s house (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/11/man-stabbed-outside-raiders-chargers-game/), asleep on the couch in her living room.</p>


Officer Frank Cali of the San Diego Police Department tells the San Diego Union-Tribune that an 81-year-old woman reported finding the Chargers fan passed out on her couch around 7:20 a.m. ET.</p>


The man was taken into custody and charged with being drunk in
public. Apparently “public” includes the couches of 81-year-old women.</p>Dam, he got off easy. What about breaking and entering to get in the house? Isn't it usually the Raiders fans knifing people at the black hole?
she probably didnt press charges. nice ol lady

shocknaweny
11-11-2011, 02:00 PM
I got Palmer as a FA....pretty pumped about that....dunno if I'll use him over Romo but it is an upgrade over Sam Bradford, Alex Smith and COlt McCoy ( my previous 3 back-ups )</P>


</P>


Romo is gunna have a big day in a shoot-out against the Bills !!!</P>

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 02:18 PM
http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/files/2011/11/enhanced-buzz-1783-1320946831-9-480x514.jpg

Morehead State
11-11-2011, 02:27 PM
<DIV class=report>


Texans coach Gary Kubiak ruled out Andre Johnson (hamstring) for Week 10 at his press conference Friday.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>Jacoby Jones, who is Houston's leader in targets since Johnson went down six games ago, will make one last start. The Texans have played this situation well, making sure Johnson doesn't come back at less than full strength to re-injure himself. And they've won three straight games. He should return as an every-down wideout when the Texans emerge from their bye in Week 12. </DIV>


In my other league I have him AND peyton hillis.... This year in FF has been nuts
lol dude, i have mcfadden, hightower, and hillis. im finished.
</P>


If history teaches me anything, its that you will start them this week.</P>

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 02:29 PM
<div class="report">


Texans coach Gary Kubiak ruled out Andre Johnson (hamstring) for Week 10 at his press conference Friday.</p></div>
<div class="impact">Jacoby Jones, who is Houston's leader in targets since Johnson went down six games ago, will make one last start. The Texans have played this situation well, making sure Johnson doesn't come back at less than full strength to re-injure himself. And they've won three straight games. He should return as an every-down wideout when the Texans emerge from their bye in Week 12. </div>


In my other league I have him AND peyton hillis.... This year in FF has been nuts
lol dude, i have mcfadden, hightower, and hillis. im finished.
</p>


If history teaches me anything, its that you will start them this week.</p>\ youre damn right i havnt even looked at it since mcfadden went down

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 02:31 PM
http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/files/2011/11/enhanced-buzz-1783-1320946831-9-480x514.jpglol

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 02:52 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/382303_2610430264387_1363910994_32985938_152946572 0_n.jpg

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 02:53 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/382303_2610430264387_1363910994_32985938_152946572 0_n.jpgOh I ****ing love that!

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 02:57 PM
http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-epic_Punch.jpg

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 03:01 PM
I have a new favorite girl by the way.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/angie-varona-gallery-17.jpg?w=500&amp;h=696

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 03:01 PM
http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-epic_Punch.jpgouufff. hes out on his feet. an unexpected left is always hard to eat.

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 03:02 PM
http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-epic_Punch.jpg

ROFL I like that one LT.

dezzzR
11-11-2011, 03:03 PM
I have a new favorite girl by the way.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/angie-varona-gallery-17.jpg?w=500&amp;h=696
i know a chick that looks exactly like her. smaller boozums though.

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 03:06 PM
i know a chick that looks exactly like her. smaller boozums though.


So when are you introducing me?

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 03:08 PM
<div class="report">


Beanie Wells (knee, probable) said Friday that his troublesome knee feels the best it has in the last month.</p>
</div>

He's also been upgraded to probable after being
listed as questionable for the last several weeks. Wells admits the
knee isn't yet 100 percent, but did say it has "improved." We will
remain skeptical that Wells' explosion has returned until we see it on
the field.

lttaylor56
11-11-2011, 03:11 PM
I have a new favorite girl by the way.

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/angie-varona-gallery-17.jpg?w=500&amp;h=696
Those are uncanny serious waist to chest proportions.

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 03:42 PM
Those are uncanny serious waist to chest proportions.


I know right, it's a thing of beauty.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff327/XxToekneexX/3.jpg

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 03:58 PM
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Y7KAmqWU1XhDZRMBZ_WdVw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MzA7cT04NTt3PTM5NA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2011/11/10/001clip-image001_225753.jpg

bigblue4417
11-11-2011, 04:10 PM
Some thought Giants reached on DE <span class="ysp-player">Jason Pierre-Paul (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/23990/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/23990/news)</span> at No. 15. Now, he looks like a steal.

DavenIII
11-11-2011, 04:10 PM
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Y7KAmqWU1XhDZRMBZ_WdVw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MzA7cT04NTt3PTM5NA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2011/11/10/001clip-image001_225753.jpg

That's pretty freaky.

DIPSET_ALL_DAY
11-11-2011, 06:56 PM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377540_283464141685892_267463376619302_949495_2029 851067_n.jpg

DIPSET_ALL_DAY
11-11-2011, 06:59 PM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/294885_269416846423955_267463376619302_899345_1631 859468_n.jpg

DIPSET_ALL_DAY
11-11-2011, 06:59 PM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/294885_269416846423955_267463376619302_899345_1631 859468_n.jpg

bigblue4417
11-12-2011, 01:03 AM
Have to love Bill Simmons. Even though he is a scorned Pats fan. lol



49ERS (-3.5) over Giants

I know your "Nobody Believed in Us" theory is usually only applied to
playoff teams, but I'm wondering if we can make one exception … this
year's New York Giants. At the start of the season, almost every talking
head had them finishing near the bottom of the division due to injuries
and free agency losses. After squeaking out wins over Arizona and
Miami, everyone said their 5-2 record heading into the Patriots game
wasn't indicative of their talent level. Did you see the video of them in the locker room (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d823dcaf2/Giants-celebrate-comeback-win-vs-Patriots) right after the Pats win? That video shows a team with the "Nobody Believed in Us" mantra, right?

— Ryan, Bristol, CT</p>


SG: I'll have to take your word for it — I was going to watch it, but
I decided to smash a beer bottle over my head instead. This looks like a
bad matchup for them, though: Letdown Game, West Coast, windy, a good
running team attacking their weak run defense, a little too much Brandon
Jacobs, a little too much confidence for Eli (never a good thing for
him), the one special teams blunder that's definitely coming, Trey
Junkin flashbacks … and most important, you can't say that nobody
believes in the Giants anymore.</p>


</p>


</p>

And Holy Paplebon!
</p>

JPizzack
11-12-2011, 10:37 AM
Have to love Bill Simmons. Even though he is a scorned Pats fan. lol




49ERS (-3.5) over Giants
I know your "Nobody Believed in Us" theory is usually only applied to playoff teams, but I'm wondering if we can make one exception … this year's New York Giants. At the start of the season, almost every talking head had them finishing near the bottom of the division due to injuries and free agency losses. After squeaking out wins over Arizona and Miami, everyone said their 5-2 record heading into the Patriots game wasn't indicative of their talent level. Did you see the video of them in the locker room (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d823dcaf2/Giants-celebrate-comeback-win-vs-Patriots) right after the Pats win? That video shows a team with the "Nobody Believed in Us" mantra, right?
— Ryan, Bristol, CT</P>


SG: I'll have to take your word for it — I was going to watch it, but I decided to smash a beer bottle over my head instead. This looks like a bad matchup for them, though: Letdown Game, West Coast, windy, a good running team attacking their weak run defense, a little too much Brandon Jacobs, a little too much confidence for Eli (never a good thing for him), the one special teams blunder that's definitely coming, Trey Junkin flashbacks … and most important, you can't say that nobody believes in the Giants anymore.</P>



</P>



</P>


And Holy Paplebon!
</P>



</P>


I feel like everyone thinks that every game is a trap game for the gmen. lol...
doesnt make much sense...

We'll win....we always find a way to win. niners have a good run defense, but their secondary is no match for our air game.</P>

bigblue4417
11-12-2011, 12:34 PM
This is our punter. lol

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/384997_10150543158879377_418837579376_11692031_105 7149330_n.jpg

bigblue4417
11-13-2011, 07:48 PM
Damn it

byron
11-13-2011, 08:25 PM
Damn it
fake that hand off have eli run around to the right ...first down....ah well they stayed with them maybe we get another shot at them in the playoffs

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 08:43 AM
MUST take care of Philly this week

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 09:09 AM
Damn it
fake that hand off have eli run around to the right ...first down....ah well they stayed with them maybe we get another shot at them in the playoffsI was thinking same B--meet up with them in the playoffs and we all know how the giants do in the playoff's against teams they played reg. season-

Morehead State
11-14-2011, 09:10 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</P>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</P>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</P>

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 09:11 AM
MUST take care of Philly this week
Absolutely--The talking heads seem to be worried about philly. I'm concerned with Dallas (5/4, 1 game behind us) 44-7 against Buffalo? God Dammmit

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 09:13 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>We slowed down their run game, made them 1 dimensional, but Alex (who the **** are you?) Smith beats us in the passing game. 49'ers o-line protected Smith pretty good I thought.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 09:32 AM
Damn it
fake that hand off have eli run around to the right ...first down....ah well they stayed with them maybe we get another shot at them in the playoffsI was thinking same B--meet up with them in the playoffs and we all know how the giants do in the playoff's against teams they played reg. season-


nobody is going to bring it up but i will:

We ALL would of been head hunting Coughlin and Gilbride today - that was a ballsy 4th down attemp wtih 3:30 left in the game. Even though we converted, what the **** were we thinking

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 09:34 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while still being happy overall with the way we played.

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 09:35 AM
MUST take care of Philly this week
Absolutely--The talking heads seem to be worried about philly. I'm concerned with Dallas (5/4, 1 game behind us) 44-7 against Buffalo? God Dammmit


Dallas is def getting hot but Buffalo isn't what they were in th beginning of the year. It was like we ended their momentum

Im worried about Philly jus tbecuase its philly but I don't think we could get them at a better internal meltdown time. Two awful losses in a row and I read something that the team is turning on DJax

without DJax - they are an ordinary team

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 09:36 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>We slowed down their run game, made them 1 dimensional, but Alex (who the **** are you?) Smith beats us in the passing game. 49'ers o-line protected Smith pretty good I thought.


our safteys played good football yetserday

but Ross - jesus god wheres the prince when u need him

and it was like they saw something in webster and kept throwing on him

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 09:40 AM
not to change it up and talk Jets on a Monday morning but jesus god - did any body watch that game last night?

How bad is Sanchez? Honestly, that dude has officially taken a full step back. Dbrick? Not for nothing i think its almost been a myth about how much of a dominant tackle he is. That Jets defense is built around Revis - everything else is brutal.

Rex Ryan, as much of a defensive genious he is, really has to stop with his big and small defensive sets - he needs to get some ATHLETES. Big athletic dudes that can play the run and pass. And as a 3-4 it should be easier to find. Patriots just took what was given to them. Nothing Rex could of done with what hes let that defense become.

How unimportant of a player did Bart Scott become? He use to be such a monster. They are so lucky to have as many wins as they do

and on a side note - plax isn't completely back - but if Sanchez could hit a moving target plax would of had 2 more TDs yesterday

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 09:44 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 09:47 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>amen brotha

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 09:50 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen. Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 09:51 AM
if theres one thing to take out of yetserdays game - San Fran is more legit team than I think we all gave them credit for

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 09:55 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 10:00 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>We slowed down their run game, made them 1 dimensional, but Alex (who the **** are you?) Smith beats us in the passing game. 49'ers o-line protected Smith pretty good I thought.


our safteys played good football yetserday

but Ross - jesus god wheres the prince when u need him

and it was like they saw something in webster and kept throwing on him
I noticed that on Webby, wtf? They saw something they liked. Nicks had the nice TD. I couldn't see both sides of the field, but it appeared Cruz was drawing double coverage-wouldn't that leave Nicks with a 1 on 1 matchup.

DavenIII
11-14-2011, 10:00 AM
nobody is going to bring it up but i will:

We ALL would of been head hunting Coughlin and Gilbride today - that was a ballsy 4th down attemp wtih 3:30 left in the game. Even though we converted, what the **** were we thinking


I don't know if you noticed, but we go up and try to get teams to jump because of Eli's hard count ALOT....I think it was a chess match situation, Gilbride/Coughlin sent them up there thinking San Fran would be sitting back...worrying about not jumping so if they actually ran a play they would have the advantage...

It was a good idea....that's not to say that if we didn't make it I wouldn't have been screaming bloody murder...just that I understand the thought process....plus we have Eli Manning the best 4th Quarter QB in the NFL....sometimes it's worth it to stake everything on that guy...he's one of the best.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:01 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:02 AM
nobody is going to bring it up but i will:

We ALL would of been head hunting Coughlin and Gilbride today - that was a ballsy 4th down attemp wtih 3:30 left in the game. Even though we converted, what the **** were we thinking


I don't know if you noticed, but we go up and try to get teams to jump because of Eli's hard count ALOT....I think it was a chess match situation, Gilbride/Coughlin sent them up there thinking San Fran would be sitting back...worrying about not jumping so if they actually ran a play they would have the advantage...

It was a good idea....that's not to say that if we didn't make it I wouldn't have been screaming bloody murder...just that I understand the thought process....plus we have Eli Manning the best 4th Quarter QB in the NFL....sometimes it's worth it to stake everything on that guy...he's one of the best.


yea i thought we were going to hard count them but we snapped that ball with a good amount of time on the play clock

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 10:03 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen. Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
Exactly-San Fran is way legit. Eli can't comeback and win every game in the end, it's just not going to happen. We hung within 1 td of an elite team, we belong in that circle.

The 4th down play-ballsy, YES. The right decision, ehh. I prefer putting it all on the line balls to the wall. I was happy the call at least gave us the opportunity to win.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:03 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>We slowed down their run game, made them 1 dimensional, but Alex (who the **** are you?) Smith beats us in the passing game. 49'ers o-line protected Smith pretty good I thought.


our safteys played good football yetserday

but Ross - jesus god wheres the prince when u need him

and it was like they saw something in webster and kept throwing on him
I noticed that on Webby, wtf? They saw something they liked. Nicks had the nice TD. I couldn't see both sides of the field, but it appeared Cruz was drawing double coverage-wouldn't that leave Nicks with a 1 on 1 matchup.


yea Nicks ended up having a decent day but I don't think he was right

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 10:05 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
San Fran's defense is off the hook, that lb'er #52, Willis, I think--OMG.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:07 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen. Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
Exactly-San Fran is way legit. Eli can't comeback and win every game in the end, it's just not going to happen. We hung within 1 td of an elite team, we belong in that circle.

The 4th down play-ballsy, YES. The right decision, ehh. I prefer putting it all on the line balls to the wall. I was happy the call at least gave us the opportunity to win.


We had 2 or 3 TOs and alot of time, like 330. Completely uncharacteristic. I personally always take shots at Coughlin for being too by the book and while I really still don't agree with the decision (but its impossible to argue with results) have to commend them.

But then after doing that, we still try to have the balanced offensive attack. Way too many runs after we sacked up and aired it out for a 4th and 2 on our own 35.

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:08 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:08 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
San Fran's defense is off the hook, that lb'er #52, Willis, I think--OMG.


yea Lando thinks hes the best MLB in the league. Im still personally giving it to Ray Ray, but Willis would be number 2 on my list.

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:09 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
San Fran's defense is off the hook, that lb'er #52, Willis, I think--OMG.
willis is an absolute freak of nature. he was all over bj.

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:11 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>We slowed down their run game, made them 1 dimensional, but Alex (who the **** are you?) Smith beats us in the passing game. 49'ers o-line protected Smith pretty good I thought.


our safteys played good football yetserday

but Ross - jesus god wheres the prince when u need him

and it was like they saw something in webster and kept throwing on him
I noticed that on Webby, wtf? They saw something they liked. Nicks had the nice TD. I couldn't see both sides of the field, but it appeared Cruz was drawing double coverage-wouldn't that leave Nicks with a 1 on 1 matchup.


yea Nicks ended up having a decent day but I don't think he was right
yea, his td was sick

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:13 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:14 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
San Fran's defense is off the hook, that lb'er #52, Willis, I think--OMG.
willis is an absolute freak of nature. he was all over bj.

even that one play where the pocket collapsed on Eli and he tried to run to the left, Willis committted to the opposite side, ran back crossed the middle of the field and got eli at the LOS. Beast

Morehead State
11-14-2011, 10:16 AM
Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</P>


Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</P>


We made them look a lot better than they are.</P>


Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</P>

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:20 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:23 AM
Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</p>


Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</p>


We made them look a lot better than they are.</p>


Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</p>

I hold our offense to a higher standard than I expect out of our defense

Botom line is that 10 points yesterday that came from SF, 3 came from an onside kick and a TD came from when they started on the 17

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:24 AM
ughhhhh what sucks is that if eli threw it just an inch or two shorter to mm on that go route at the end its 6. it was soo ****ing close......

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:29 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.

Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.

Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:30 AM
ughhhhh what sucks is that if eli threw it just an inch or two shorter to mm on that go route at the end its 6. it was soo ****ing close......


that play needs to be made by Manningham

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:32 AM
Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</p>


Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</p>


We made them look a lot better than they are.</p>


Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</p>

19 for 30, 242, 1 TD and 1 INT is Montana like? Allllrighty then

back off the ledge pappy

byron
11-14-2011, 10:33 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</P>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</P>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</P>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <U>still being happy overall with the way we played.</U>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<U>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</U> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy <FONT color=#0000ff>reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route</FONT>. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


he did stop running the route ....Gilbride can shove that draw play up his *** that ****ing thing never works ....everybody was up on the line for that play like I said fake the ****ing hand and run around the end to the right if Eli doesn't think he can get the 2 yards throw it away...They handcuffed them selves with no options and everybody knows whats coming......I'll be glad when Gilbrides gone he's an idiot....

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:38 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
</u>
Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
<u>
Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.


youre on crack. seriously.

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:41 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy <font color="#0000ff">reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route</font>. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


he did stop running the route ....<u>Gilbride can shove that draw play up his *** that ****ing thing never works ...</u>.everybody was up on the line for that play like I said fake the ****ing hand and run around the end to the right if Eli doesn't think he can get the 2 yards throw it away...They handcuffed them selves with no options and everybody knows whats coming......I'll be glad when Gilbrides gone he's an idiot....that was bad. very bad. their linebackers were just waiting ware

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:41 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
</u>
Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
<u>
Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.


youre on crack. seriously.


We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

whatever helps u get through this loss dezz

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT

byron
11-14-2011, 10:43 AM
Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</P>


Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</P>


We made them look a lot better than they are.</P>


Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</P>




19 for 30, 242, 1 TD and 1 INT is Montana like? Allllrighty then

back off the ledge pappy
</P>


these coaches game plan to the talent they play... its like they play for a tie every week.....one week they are in everybody face the next they play soft...whatever...I'm not all that upset about that loss as long as we get the eagles this week ....</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:45 AM
and yes NFCC for them is a VERY realistic situation

They are definitly going to get a bye because they do play in a garbage division, they have 8 wins already and have 5 more games vs that **** division

So basically they only need one win to get to the NFCC. Not an unpractical situation at all - but i know i know... Alex Smith sucks so they won't do it even though the key to their offense is that they only need him to not turn it over and throw the ball for 220 yards.

Their built around their defense and run game. Its like the Steelers first superbowl win, except they have alot more receiving weapons

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:47 AM
Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</p>


Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</p>


We made them look a lot better than they are.</p>


Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</p>




19 for 30, 242, 1 TD and 1 INT is Montana like? Allllrighty then

back off the ledge pappy
</p>


these coaches game plan to the talent they play... its like they play for a tie every week.....one week they are in everybody face the next they play soft...whatever...I'm not all that upset about that loss as long as we get the eagles this week ....</p>

yea thats all it does - puts more pressure on the Eagles. Pre-PAts game if I told you guys we were going to go 2-1 everybody would sign up for it

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:47 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
</u>
Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
<u>
Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.


youre on crack. seriously.


We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

<u>whatever helps u get through this loss dezz</u>

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT
do you not see wrs running wide open all day on us or am i imagining it? secondary is soft. this giant defense has a lot of holes. and it never seems to be addressed.

lol and im damn sure not "happy" about it.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297107_2640915308013_1409470845_33047324_172257609 6_n.jpg

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 10:50 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen. Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
Exactly-San Fran is way legit. Eli can't comeback and win every game in the end, it's just not going to happen. We hung within 1 td of an elite team, we belong in that circle.

The 4th down play-ballsy, YES. The right decision, ehh. I prefer putting it all on the line balls to the wall. I was happy the call at least gave us the opportunity to win.


We had 2 or 3 TOs and alot of time, like 330. Completely uncharacteristic. I personally always take shots at Coughlin for being too by the book and while I really still don't agree with the decision (but its impossible to argue with results) have to commend them.

But then after doing that, we still try to have the balanced offensive attack. Way too many runs after we sacked up and aired it out for a 4th and 2 on our own 35.
Yes-in hindsight-the only flaw was to run it as much as they did. There was an effective flow in that drive where they were fearing the pass and we gained good ground yards. I think they were trying to set the defense up to bite on a run and open the pass game for the tie. 49'ers defense didn't bite. That being said, we still put points up on a very good defense.

Their dbacks were ball hawking Eli all day---interceptions could of been even higher. Eli did good forgetting about the last play and concentrating on the next play.

bigblue4417
11-14-2011, 10:50 AM
MUST take care of Philly this week

Yeah man, If not Chicken Littles all over the place

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 10:52 AM
Scoring 20 points yesterday should have been enough. Don't forget their best player was basically out for the game. We made Alex Smith look like Joe Montana.</p>


Our D was horrible. Our O held its own against a very good defense.</p>


We made them look a lot better than they are.</p>


Everybody on TV is talking about this being a "good loss". I completely disagree. It was a terrible loss. Our defense was exposed yet again. Now we face a super toughrun of gamesand we needed that game.</p>




19 for 30, 242, 1 TD and 1 INT is Montana like? Allllrighty then

back off the ledge pappy
</p>


these coaches game plan to the talent they play... its like they play for a tie every week.....one week they are in everybody face the next they play soft...whatever...I'm not all that upset about that loss as long as we get the eagles this week ....</p>

yea thats all it does - puts more pressure on the Eagles. Pre-PAts game if I told you guys we were going to go 2-1 everybody would sign up for it
Definitely. I take back how I criticized Ware the other week for missing a blitz on Eli---Brandon Jacobs got confused yesterday and gave up a hit on Eli.

bigblue4417
11-14-2011, 10:53 AM
Not getting TD's in the red zone is killing us.

I just hate when we beat ourselves. It's alot easier to take when we get beat.

We made a good game out of it. The onside kick kind of took the wind out of us.




Also, about Dallas. We play then twice still so if we beat them both times and beat the teams we should we will be in the playoffs for sure.

bigblue4417
11-14-2011, 10:54 AM
Holy Matt Stafford.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:55 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
</u>
Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
<u>
Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.


youre on crack. seriously.


We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

<u>whatever helps u get through this loss dezz</u>

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT
do you not see wrs running wide open all day on us or am i imagining it? secondary is soft. this giant defense has a lot of holes. and it never seems to be addressed.

lol and im damn sure not "happy" about it.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297107_2640915308013_1409470845_33047324_172257609 6_n.jpg


uhm Alex Smith threw for 240 yards, 30 of which came from a backup missing an assignment. The only reason he would of even had as many as he did was because we planned to stop the run. So the whole woulda coulda shoulda game ur trying to play by saying these WRs were wide open all game didn't effect us.

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:55 AM
should we bench bj and have ware and scott split? i think so, we need some kind of running game

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:56 AM
MUST take care of Philly this week

Yeah man, If not Chicken Littles all over the place


it will be a bad loss if we don't take care of business. We will lose all momentum.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 10:58 AM
should we bench bj and have ware and scott split? i think so, we need some kind of running game


na Jacobs had a decent day vs a legit run defense. Gilbride went back to the ol throw on first, run on second for like 6 series. Everybody knew it was coming

I want to see more Scott but I felt like even though the numbers dind't show it we actually saw some fight and push out of our OLine this week.

Lets see what we look like this vs Philly this week with the run game before we start making any legit moves

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 10:59 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
</u>
Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
<u>
Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.


youre on crack. seriously.


We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

<u>whatever helps u get through this loss dezz</u>

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT
do you not see wrs running wide open all day on us or am i imagining it? secondary is soft. this giant defense has a lot of holes. and it never seems to be addressed.

lol and im damn sure not "happy" about it.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297107_2640915308013_1409470845_33047324_172257609 6_n.jpg


uhm Alex Smith threw for 240 yards, 30 of which came from a backup missing an assignment. The only reason he would of even had as many as he did was because we planned to stop the run.<u> So the whole woulda coulda shoulda game ur trying to play by saying these WRs were wide open all game didn't effect us. </u>


it doesnt effect us??? having 3 and outs dont effect us? what are you on boya?

are you satisfied with this defense?
bottom line, this defense struggles against teams it shouldnt.

bigblue4417
11-14-2011, 11:03 AM
The draw play out of the shotgun was embarrassing. I just don't understand the play calling sometimes.

Had Smith not knocked down that last pass from Eli there was not way that ball was getting completed.

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 11:04 AM
Not getting TD's in the red zone is killing us.

I just hate when we beat ourselves. It's alot easier to take when we get beat.

We made a good game out of it. The onside kick kind of took the wind out of us.




<font color="#0000FF">Also, about Dallas. We play then twice still so if we beat them both times and beat the teams we should we will be in the playoffs for sure. </font>
That's what freaks me out...Dallas. They are a son of a ***** in our Stadium. At least it will be Jan 1 and hopefully cold. I think best case we split with Dallas this season...but who knows.

byron
11-14-2011, 11:04 AM
MUST take care of Philly this week

Yeah man, If not Chicken Littles all over the place


it will be a bad loss if we don't take care of business. We will lose all momentum.
they need to win....

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 11:05 AM
The draw play out of the shotgun was embarrassing. I just don't understand the play calling sometimes.

Had Smith not knocked down that last pass from Eli there was not way that ball was getting completed.
True-their dbacks has pinpoint coverage.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 11:05 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
</u>
Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
<u>
Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.


youre on crack. seriously.


We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

<u>whatever helps u get through this loss dezz</u>

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT
do you not see wrs running wide open all day on us or am i imagining it? secondary is soft. this giant defense has a lot of holes. and it never seems to be addressed.

lol and im damn sure not "happy" about it.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297107_2640915308013_1409470845_33047324_172257609 6_n.jpg


uhm Alex Smith threw for 240 yards, 30 of which came from a backup missing an assignment. The only reason he would of even had as many as he did was because we planned to stop the run.<u> So the whole woulda coulda shoulda game ur trying to play by saying these WRs were wide open all game didn't effect us. </u>


it doesnt effect us??? having 3 and outs dont effect us? what are you on boya?

are you satisfied with this defense?
bottom line, this defense struggles against teams it shouldnt.


you said there were receivers open all of the field, the stats didn't support that. Stopping the run and really holding them to 200 yards passing is a good job by the defense. A backup missing an assignemnt killed us on the only TD we gave up that was on the defnse. Your being dramatic.

No i'm not the biggest Fewell fan either, im just not trying to turn every little thing into his issue. Was it his fault that Ross got burnt and couldn't stick his man in man coverage? No it wasn't

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 11:07 AM
The draw play out of the shotgun was embarrassing. I just don't understand the play calling sometimes.

Had Smith not knocked down that last pass from Eli there was not way that ball was getting completed.


someboyd next to me said that too but im not sure thats true either. I think Cruz dug and was working out . I think timed out it might of been completed

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 11:07 AM
How about Brady's play that marveled the great escape by Eli in the Jet game last night td to Gronkowksi.

Anyone clear on what happened with that play, why it was overturned? They argued that he came out of pocket and then went back into the pocket and that effected another penalty? I'm confused on that one.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 11:09 AM
Not getting TD's in the red zone is killing us.

I just hate when we beat ourselves. It's alot easier to take when we get beat.

We made a good game out of it. The onside kick kind of took the wind out of us.




<font color="#0000ff">Also, about Dallas. We play then twice still so if we beat them both times and beat the teams we should we will be in the playoffs for sure. </font>
That's what freaks me out...Dallas. They are a son of a ***** in our Stadium. At least it will be Jan 1 and hopefully cold. I think best case we split with Dallas this season...but who knows.


have to bank on a split between dallas realistically. Have to bank on a win vs skins

It sucks to say: But I think we need to be 3-1 in our division for the playoffs and I think that it all comes down to this week in ever ywhich way. We need the win, we need the divisional win, and we need the momentum

dezzzR
11-14-2011, 11:10 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
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Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
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Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.


youre on crack. seriously.


We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

<u>whatever helps u get through this loss dezz</u>

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT
do you not see wrs running wide open all day on us or am i imagining it? secondary is soft. this giant defense has a lot of holes. and it never seems to be addressed.

lol and im damn sure not "happy" about it.
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uhm Alex Smith threw for 240 yards, 30 of which came from a backup missing an assignment. The only reason he would of even had as many as he did was because we planned to stop the run.<u> So the whole woulda coulda shoulda game ur trying to play by saying these WRs were wide open all game didn't effect us. </u>


it doesnt effect us??? having 3 and outs dont effect us? what are you on boya?

are you satisfied with this defense?
bottom line, this defense struggles against teams it shouldnt.


you said there were receivers open all of the field, the stats didn't support that. Stopping the run and really holding them to 200 yards passing is a good job by the defense. A backup missing an assignemnt killed us on the only TD we gave up that was on the defnse. Your being dramatic.

No i'm not the biggest Fewell fan either, im just not trying to turn every little thing into his issue. Was it his fault that Ross got burnt and couldn't stick his man in man coverage? No it wasn't


no im not being dramatic cause this is a trend. and i dont care what the stats say, i know what im seeing. wrs wide open in the middle of the field. or worse open on the side lines.
9ers and every team we face have no problem moving the ball 20 to 20.

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 11:10 AM
How about Brady's play that marveled the great escape by Eli in the Jet game last night td to Gronkowksi.

Anyone clear on what happened with that play, why it was overturned? They argued that he came out of pocket and then went back into the pocket and that effected another penalty? I'm confused on that one.


yea i caught it when it was challanged. Only thing I took out of that is that Gronkowski stepped out of bouynds and was the first perosn to touch the ball... i dunno

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 11:11 AM
Lando mentioned the onside kick, then there was Mario stopping his route and the interception. WTF is up with Mario? This is not the first time. Either of those two plays coulda made all the difference. With the luck rolling our way, we could of easily beat san fran on the road.

lttaylor56
11-14-2011, 11:12 AM
How about Brady's play that marveled the great escape by Eli in the Jet game last night td to Gronkowksi.

Anyone clear on what happened with that play, why it was overturned? They argued that he came out of pocket and then went back into the pocket and that effected another penalty? I'm confused on that one.


yea i caught it when it was challanged. Only thing I took out of that is that Gronkowski stepped out of bouynds and was the first perosn to touch the ball... i dunno
ah, that makes more sense to me.

DavenIII
11-14-2011, 11:12 AM
ughhhhh what sucks is that if eli threw it just an inch or two shorter to mm on that go route at the end its 6. it was soo ****ing close......


that play needs to be made by Manningham


well Needs is a strong way to put it, but he could have layed out for that and caught the ball....maybe not to get in to the endzone, but if he layed out he could have caught it...that said Eli could have thrown in an inch or 2 shorter (but that's much tougher to do)

MattMeyerBud
11-14-2011, 11:13 AM
The NFL is a crazy place. One week you play great defense against Tom Brady and the next you can't stop Alex Smith.</p>


This loss is on the defense. No ifs ands or buts.</p>


Which defense will show up next Sunday? Can anyone really say?</p>

i'd say the offense deserves the blame too. This was a weird game for me, one of the times I actually consider an equal blame loss while <u>still being happy overall with the way we played.</u>

It was a good game, we have to cash in in the red zone
how can you be happy after that game yesterday? we didnt look good on either side of the ball. we need a running game. bad.


regardless of what u think about the 49ers, the truth is they are a legit team this year.

It was a good football game. That defense is legit - specifically against the run. No bradshaw is going to hurt our offense. We are under estimating what he actually does for us.

<u>Defense got worked down the stretch but its going to happen.</u> Boley down hurt us alot in covering the backs and TEs. Prince needs to step up.

We had a battle and lost by a TD vs another top team in the league. Your not going to win em all. Just can't let down this week and have to take care of divisional games, especially when its vs Philly, and even though they are most likely done any way - we can be the nail in their coffin while grabbing a divisional game.

MUST win
its going to happen? its been happening on a consistent basis since fewell stepped in the door. and lets tell it like it is, 49s are a decent team in a weak division. we should of beat them especially after they took gore out. alex smith, are you ****ing kidding me????
grossman, whitehurst, kolb, alex smith. gee i wonder what our problems are?


Alex Smith is still a young QB whose starting to become a decent football player. Also keep in mind that Walker, V Davis, Crabtree, and BRaylon is a good cast of weapons, not to mention their strength is in their line and running game.

Their defense is a legit and top defense. They got wins vs Cincy, Philly, and Detroit. They've only had one divisional game this year so that weak division argument isn't really applicable in talking about their success this year.
gore wasnt even playing man. i dont want to hear it. cincys decent, phillys trash, detroits ok. soo what? 49ers are a decent team that we should of beat. end of story.


lol u can go be a brat about it all u want but u just tried knocking SF's success because of the division they played in even though its week 10 and they only played one divisional game.

But the bottom line is that they really only drove for 1 TD on us in the second half and it was because V.Davis got free. I haven't gone back and watched it and prob won't be able to til tom but im pretty sure it was Paysinger who completely lost him. The loss of boley killed us on that play.

Then they scored the 2nd TD because Eli threw that INT. Personally I thought it was a horrid play but I caught the end of Dungy reviewing the play and he said the WR stopped his route. I have no clue what happened but as of right now im putting that as a horrid play by Eli

And you can knock Dixon and Hunter but they are pretty legit as well


lol matt give me a break. the only "good" teams they beat were....the lions. they beat seahawks, a decent bengals team, horrible philly, cowboys(although the boys are starting to warm up), tampa, browns and redskins. like i said giiiiive me a break.

theyre decent at best and they were without gore yesterday

that pick was on mm, he stopped running his route.


As somebody who was saying since day one this year that Philly was overrated, lets not under rate them either. As bad as they are they are still a decent team. And if your still sleeping on Cincy thats fine, but they are a pretty damn good football team.

San Fran is a good team whether you want to admit it or not.

<u>Defense had a decent day. And yes its going to happen where you have a drive and give up a TD.
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Regardless we settled for FGs, throw a pick that gave them game winning position, couldn't tie the game down the stretch. The best squad out on the field was our offense. Its better then their offense, their defense, and our defense. SF is not that bad and it was on the road. I am not saying the defense wasn't at fualt, but both sides of the ball had its flaws it was a team loss if i've ever saw one before.
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Still at the end of the day SF is a legit NFC contender and wouldn't be surprised if they made it to NFCC</u>
of course it is, but when were playing sub par qbs i expect to demolish them with the names on our defense. 07, 08 this game would of been a joke. 9ers would of been lucky to put up 10. and thats what pisses me off the most, we still have the core of that team and cant dominate, which leads me to believe our scheme is **** and has been since last year. and 09 but i erased that year from my mind.


youre on crack. seriously.


We gave up one today because our starter got injured and a backup player missed an assignment?

<u>whatever helps u get through this loss dezz</u>

and honesty you talk **** about their schedule but they went 3-1 vs our division and their only loss was in OT
do you not see wrs running wide open all day on us or am i imagining it? secondary is soft. this giant defense has a lot of holes. and it never seems to be addressed.

lol and im damn sure not "happy" about it.
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uhm Alex Smith threw for 240 yards, 30 of which came from a backup missing an assignment. The only reason he would of even had as many as he did was because we planned to stop the run.<u> So the whole woulda coulda shoulda game ur trying to play by saying these WRs were wide open all game didn't effect us. </u>


it doesnt effect us??? having 3 and outs dont effect us? what are you on boya?

are you satisfied with this defense?
bottom line, this defense struggles against teams it shouldnt.


you said there were receivers open all of the field, the stats didn't support that. Stopping the run and really holding them to 200 yards passing is a good job by the defense. A backup missing an assignemnt killed us on the only TD we gave up that was on the defnse. Your being dramatic.

No i'm not the biggest Fewell fan either, im just not trying to turn every little thing into his issue. Was it his fault that Ross got burnt and couldn't stick his man in man coverage? No it wasn't


no im not being dramatic cause this is a trend.
9ers and every team we face have no problem moving the ball 20 to 20.






we held the 9ers to 300 yards of offense and they scored 27 points. Your theory isn't supported by that mere fact alone