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bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 10:46 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 10:46 AM
Let's get the vote going on this trade...

I am calling total bull****. Blondie is completely out of it with 0% chance of making the playoffs. There is no reason for her to even make a trade at all. I know Blondie is not a shady person and I don't think she is trying to load up MH's team but there is no reason for her to try and improve her team. Let alone give up her #1 pick for Benson and a D.

Veto - Landon, Bryon

Accept - Blondie, MH, Matt


Waiting for Daven, Kase, Matt, Shock and I'm not sure who breaks the tiebreaker?


no way a veto

Ben has a broken bone in his hand - she got a legit back. You just really hate Benson and its personal. Zero shot thats vetoable

don't start this **** again

You told me any trade could be voted on if anyone called for a vote. I slept on it and made sure I was not going to upset everyone. My rep is already bad enough when it comes to this and I don't want it any worse but this is ridiculous. Last place team with 0% chance of doing anything trading her 1st pick to the 3rd place team and 2nd in points. Why does Blondie even care to improve her team? It has nothing to do with Benson, it has to do with the circumstances. I am not the only person that feels this way either bro. Trade deadline is in 1 week so we won't have to worry anymore.

Get the vote going. I'll text Kase and Daven to get theirs. Hopefully Shock pops in today.

Veto - Landon, Bryon

Accept - Blondie, MH, Matt


yea EXCEPT for you

im going to veto EVERY single trade u ****in put through because this is that **** I call you out on. Its unfair when anybody else does it, but NOT you

Trade is no where near as bad as u are suggesting, if history tells you anything, its that for the nextmonth and half Rivers is going to average 120 QB rating. Ben has a broken thumb on his throwing hand

MJD has a pretty **** schedule and Benson is legit enough.

For you to even SPEAK the words "first round pick" completely your argument completely moot

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 10:48 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


yea REASONABLE trades

we're not going down this road again

the bar is set at Vick 4 Nate Washington & Matt Ryan

this trade is no where near that considering every thing, not to mention Ben is on bye this week

you hav eno grounds to even suggest its unfair

two teams got better

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 10:51 AM
Trade is no where near as bad as u are suggesting, if history tells you anything, its that for the nextmonth and half Rivers is going to average 120 QB rating. Ben has a broken thumb on his throwing hand

MJD has a pretty **** schedule and Benson is legit enough.


Ben and Phillip are a wash.

MJD for Benson and Cin D

If that trade went through by itself you would be ok with that.

Also, you don't have to worry about next year. I'm done with this league. I don't like the perception I'm given and I'm constantly slammed whenever I say anything.

You know what, don't even worry about the vote. It's fine. Just remember, I have not complained about any trades this year or called for any vetoes. I have been pretty good this year when it comes to that.

It's fine though.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 10:54 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


is blondie stacking mooreheads team up ? no

Is blondie a rookie? no

Ben (now has broken thumb on throwing hand) 211 points with no bye yet

MJD 118 points

Rivers 173 points (known to be a second half player and has had bye)

Benson 74 points - and missed a game

Cincy D - top 7 defense



ZERO shot this is vetoable... you have NO GROUNDS.

I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 10:55 AM
and sure, 2 teams got better. 1 just happens to be completely out of it and the other is vying for the top spot.

[*-)]

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 10:56 AM
not to throw gasoline on the fire....but.</P>


if youre going to be counting votes, you can count MH and Amanda.
It's the other 10 players who's votes youre actually counting.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 10:57 AM
Trade is no where near as bad as u are suggesting, if history tells you anything, its that for the nextmonth and half Rivers is going to average 120 QB rating. Ben has a broken thumb on his throwing hand

MJD has a pretty **** schedule and Benson is legit enough.


Ben and Phillip are a wash.

MJD for Benson and Cin D

If that trade went through by itself you would be ok with that.

Also, you don't have to worry about next year. I'm done with this league. I don't like the perception I'm given and I'm constantly slammed whenever I say anything.

You know what, don't even worry about the vote. It's fine. Just remember, I have not complained about any trades this year or called for any vetoes. I have been pretty good this year when it comes to that.

It's fine though.


FALSE they are a wash. Rivers is a complete second half of year player. YOU go lookat the stats. Ben just broke HIS THUMB IN HIS THROWING HAND. How are you gioing to say thats a wash? RIGHT NOW they are a wash with Rivers playing like **** and Ben healthy.

I completely disagree that Rivers 4 ben is a wash at this point. COMPLETELY. I think Moorehead just shot himself in the foot. He now has two QBs with broken hands...

I don't even care if ur out to be honest, because like I have pointed out to EVERYBODY but nobdoy will listen is that when it comes to you theres no issue with trades and everything is fair and bla bla bla. THE MINUTE theres even a whiff of somebody else getting a good deal u cry.

**** ur still trying to argue that the Romo/Miles trade for me was good for me. Your not realistic

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 10:58 AM
and sure, 2 teams got better. 1 just happens to be completely out of it and the other is vying for the top spot.

[*-)]


so if blondie gets better it doesn't matter in your eyes - is essentially what your saying

I disagree that moorehead got better. I think he hurt himself in the most important position in the league.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:00 AM
answer me why Vick 4 NATE WASHINGTON and MATT RYAN was an okay trade though - please tell me

byron
11-18-2011, 11:01 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


is blondie stacking mooreheads team up ? no

Is blondie a rookie? no

Ben (now has broken thumb on throwing hand) 211 points with no bye yet

MJD 118 points

Rivers 173 points (known to be a second half player and has had bye)

Benson 74 points - and missed a game

Cincy D - top 7 defense



ZERO shot this is vetoable... you have NO GROUNDS.

I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.


Well I did't like the trade so I said something..lando called for a vote ....rules we agreed apond....maybe the rules shoud be... no veto on any trades at all.... bottom line we either have votes or not

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:01 AM
and just so we're all clear, u all know i dont want to hear pappys mouth if he does win. So i have nodog in the race except we're not letting Lando's bull**** trades go through and then when one of the same caliber (which i don't even think is nearly as bad) comes up that hes not involved with hes crying

thats bull****

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:02 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


yea REASONABLE trades

we're not going down this road again

the bar is set at Vick 4 Nate Washington &amp; Matt Ryan


Since week 4 when I started Vick...

Vick - 105

vs

Ryan - 130
Nate - 40

You do the math genius. Not to mention he beat me the week we played. Plus Ryan is playing great right now and Vick is dead. So please, do us all a favor, quit bringing up that trade and give Sharick some credit.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:03 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


is blondie stacking mooreheads team up ? no

Is blondie a rookie? no

Ben (now has broken thumb on throwing hand) 211 points with no bye yet

MJD 118 points

Rivers 173 points (known to be a second half player and has had bye)

Benson 74 points - and missed a game

Cincy D - top 7 defense



ZERO shot this is vetoable... you have NO GROUNDS.

I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.


Well I did't like the trade so I said something..lando called for a vote ....rules we agreed apond....maybe the rules shoud be... no veto on any trades at all.... bottom line we either have votes or not

i have no problem with u feeling like it was bull****. If you wanted the vote thats fine

but for Lando to call for it and be outraged is a joke. Every reason why he says his Vick trade was okay can an dshould be applied to this trade.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:04 AM
and sure, 2 teams got better. 1 just happens to be completely out of it and the other is vying for the top spot.

[*-)]


so if blondie gets better it doesn't matter in your eyes - is essentially what your saying

I disagree that moorehead got better. I think he hurt himself in the most important position in the league.


Why does Blondie need to get better?

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:05 AM
I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.



What about Cin D? Was that not part of the trade?

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:07 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


yea REASONABLE trades

we're not going down this road again

the bar is set at Vick 4 Nate Washington &amp; Matt Ryan


Since week 4 when I started Vick...

Vick - 105

vs

Ryan - 130
Nate - 40

You do the math genius. Not to mention he beat me the week we played. Plus Ryan is playing great right now and Vick is dead. So please, do us all a favor, quit bringing up that trade and give Sharick some credit.



what difference does that make lando? We have no results from here on out.

At the time there was NO ****IN way it was more acceptable of a trade...

hindsight is 20/20

and I think hindsight, pappy willl lose points on Rivers vs Ben. Your reasoning was that Vick is known for getting banged up and injured and thats why its okay. BEN HAS A BROKEN THUMB ON HIS THROWING HAND. RIVERS ALWAYS HAS BEEN A SECOND HALF OF SEASON PLAYER

Benson grabs 30 carries a game- MJD is def better, but theres no way u can call Ben and Rivers a wash right now

And theres no way you could of called Nate Washington and Matt Ryan an even swap for Vick at that time.

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 11:07 AM
aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh really LOUD SCREAM.

I am so pissed at the ***** at the town for ****ing up my whole
generator job. It seems to me that she is a racist. My electrician walks
in there and all of a sudden there is a new set of rules(outside of
code) for my generator. The generator could of been in my original
location, nice and flat outside the sliding glass doors....but this
****ing idiot tells my elect. that it has to be on a concrete pad far enough
away from my house. Elect. and the propane guy who was at my
house today both said that is not required by code. Now my ****ing
generator is perched on the hillside with a monstrosity of concrete
underneath it......and I am in the middle of a ****fest between the town inspectors, clerks and building dept, propane company....etc.. Another delay.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:10 AM
It's fine, don't vote. I knew if I said something you would flip out. That is why I said that Byron should have brought it up because you guys would take his opinion better than mine. I also slept on it to make sure I was making the right decision to bring it up. Then I see B said something but everyone just blew him off.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:10 AM
I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.



What about Cin D? Was that not part of the trade?


yea it was... extra

but i won't even need tehm to make this case. I got money that WITHOUT cincy d that Rivers and Benson out score MJD and Ben

I mean christ u mention MJD as a first rounder , but Rivers went ahead of him in alot of my drafts.

Are u denying that Rivers doesn't typically have a better second half of year throughout his career?

Are u denying that this new broken thumb on Ben won't effect his throwing?

Ur just pissed cuz Pappy did THE SAME thing u did when u got Peterson. He was able to trade his backup and get RB in return.

I honestly have no issue with anybody vetoing this and speaking their mind but you. I find it amazing u'd even have the ball after the trades u've gotten off this year.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:13 AM
It's fine, don't vote. I knew if I said something you would flip out. That is why I said that Byron should have brought it up because you guys would take his opinion better than mine. I also slept on it to make sure I was making the right decision to bring it up. Then I see B said something but everyone just blew him off.


i dont care if byron brought it up

but i would still flip once ur vote was veto

thats complete horse**** and u can try and use hindsight like it actually worked for Sharick and all that, but we're talking in the momenbt of veto'ing a trade - that Vick deal was ALOT more rejectable than this

And speaking of your Vick trade... i did that break down last week, on a week to week basis i think Vick outscored NAte and Ryan like 5 out of 7 weeks or something like that. So while the totals may be in Sharicks favor, week to week it wasn't

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:15 AM
and sure, 2 teams got better. 1 just happens to be completely out of it and the other is vying for the top spot.

[*-)]


so if blondie gets better it doesn't matter in your eyes - is essentially what your saying

I disagree that moorehead got better. I think he hurt himself in the most important position in the league.


Why does Blondie need to get better?


she made a trade to compete

She feels she upgraded - i agree that I think she did

this is why I always say there should be a last pays extra or use a keeper league so **** like this doesn't happen. But regardless, your really missing the big picture that Pappy really has only 2 QBs that have broken bones in their hands. Stafford looked like **** and now Calvin is doubtful this week.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:17 AM
I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.



What about Cin D? Was that not part of the trade?


yea it was... extra

but i won't even need tehm to make this case. I got money that WITHOUT cincy d that Rivers and Benson out score MJD and Ben

I mean christ u mention MJD as a first rounder , but Rivers went ahead of him in alot of my drafts.

Are u denying that Rivers doesn't typically have a better second half of year throughout his career?

Are u denying that this new broken thumb on Ben won't effect his throwing?

Ur just pissed cuz Pappy did THE SAME thing u did when u got Peterson. He was able to trade his backup and get RB in return.

I honestly have no issue with anybody vetoing this and speaking their mind <font color="#0000FF">but you.</font> I find it amazing u'd even have the ball after the trades u've gotten off this year.



I didn't trade a back up. Beanie was my starting RB and don't forget I traded the 2nd best WR in the game.

That is exactly my point.

byron
11-18-2011, 11:17 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


is blondie stacking mooreheads team up ? no

Is blondie a rookie? no

Ben (now has broken thumb on throwing hand) 211 points with no bye yet

MJD 118 points

Rivers 173 points (known to be a second half player and has had bye)

Benson 74 points - and missed a game

Cincy D - top 7 defense



ZERO shot this is vetoable... you have NO GROUNDS.

I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.


Well I did't like the trade so I said something..lando called for a vote ....rules we agreed apond....maybe the rules shoud be... no veto on any trades at all.... bottom line we either have votes or not

i have no problem with u feeling like it was bull****. If you wanted the vote thats fine

but for Lando to call for it and be outraged is a joke. Every reason why he says his Vick trade was okay can an dshould be applied to this trade.
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well as far as I'm concerned the way trades are being handle isn't working out well and leads to arguments every timethis trade that trade comes up....if voting them is going to cause hard feelings then maybe next yearyou have a no vote league on trades everything flys....if a vote is the rule it should be taken before the trade goes through imho...after the fact leads to this bull**** every time...youdid this,he did that **** ...letskeep it in the now ...vote and be done with it....</P>

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:18 AM
she made a trade to compete


With who? Her season is over in 3 games.

dezzzR
11-18-2011, 11:18 AM
aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh really LOUD SCREAM.

I am so pissed at the ***** at the town for ****ing up my whole
generator job. It seems to me that she is a racist. My electrician walks
in there and all of a sudden there is a new set of rules(outside of
code) for my generator. The generator could of been in my original
location, nice and flat outside the sliding glass doors....but this
****ing idiot tells my elect. that it has to be on a concrete pad far enough
away from my house. Elect. and the propane guy who was at my
house today both said that is not required by code. Now my ****ing
generator is perched on the hillside with a monstrosity of concrete
underneath it......and I am in the middle of a ****fest between the town inspectors, clerks and building dept, propane company....etc.. Another delay.


you shouldnt of told the town [:)]

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:21 AM
It doesn't matter.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:25 AM
The Wilmington News Journal reports Michael Vick (ribs) has been ruled out for Week 11 against the Giants.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:27 AM
I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.



What about Cin D? Was that not part of the trade?


yea it was... extra

but i won't even need tehm to make this case. I got money that WITHOUT cincy d that Rivers and Benson out score MJD and Ben

I mean christ u mention MJD as a first rounder , but Rivers went ahead of him in alot of my drafts.

Are u denying that Rivers doesn't typically have a better second half of year throughout his career?

Are u denying that this new broken thumb on Ben won't effect his throwing?

Ur just pissed cuz Pappy did THE SAME thing u did when u got Peterson. He was able to trade his backup and get RB in return.

I honestly have no issue with anybody vetoing this and speaking their mind <font color="#0000FF">but you.</font> I find it amazing u'd even have the ball after the trades u've gotten off this year.



I didn't trade a back up. Beanie was my starting RB and don't forget I traded the 2nd best WR in the game.

That is exactly my point.


First off i confused the trades, my bad but lets rehash them ]
Tony Gonzo - Stafford - Moreno 4 Graham - Flacco - Jones

the ONLY reason u were able to make this trade was because u got Vick for garbage. Its a chain of events that all stemmed from u being able to get Vick for peanuts

Seonc trade:

Jennings &amp; Beanie 4 AP &amp; Walter

like are u kidding me. AS nasty as Jennings is, you want to comment on #1 picks? THE FIRST OVER ALL PICK U GOT for a top 5-10 WR. Beanie MAY of been a starter for u, but he was also battling a big injury bug and was very questionable about how and if he could got on.

You were able to make up trading Jennings by getting Graham at TE whose having the better season

The reality of it is that u were able to get AP 4 beanie and Gonzo while upgrading Jennings to Graham and a WR3 instead of a TE

ALL because u were able to trade Matt Ryan (a back up QB) &amp; NAte Washington (a scrub from waiver wires) for one of the top 3 QBs in the league

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:29 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


is blondie stacking mooreheads team up ? no

Is blondie a rookie? no

Ben (now has broken thumb on throwing hand) 211 points with no bye yet

MJD 118 points

Rivers 173 points (known to be a second half player and has had bye)

Benson 74 points - and missed a game

Cincy D - top 7 defense



ZERO shot this is vetoable... you have NO GROUNDS.

I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.


Well I did't like the trade so I said something..lando called for a vote ....rules we agreed apond....maybe the rules shoud be... no veto on any trades at all.... bottom line we either have votes or not

i have no problem with u feeling like it was bull****. If you wanted the vote thats fine

but for Lando to call for it and be outraged is a joke. Every reason why he says his Vick trade was okay can an dshould be applied to this trade.
</p>


well as far as I'm concerned the way trades are being handle isn't working out well and leads to arguments every timethis trade that trade comes up....if voting them is going to cause hard feelings then maybe next yearyou have a no vote league on trades everything flys....if a vote is the rule it should be taken before the trade goes through imho...after the fact leads to this bull**** every time...youdid this,he did that **** ...letskeep it in the now ...vote and be done with it....</p>

the thing is - its only an argument if Lando isn't involved in the trade

which has been typically true EVERY year

byron
11-18-2011, 11:30 AM
It's fine, don't vote. I knew if I said something you would flip out. That is why I said that Byron should have brought it up because you guys would take his opinion better than mine. I also slept on it to make sure I was making the right decision to bring it up. Then I see B said something but everyone just blew him off.
look man you still have a right to your opinion no matter kind of trades you have made in the past..using your history of trading to get you to vote one way or the other is wrong ..you shouldn't veto because you this or that.. bull**** ...my bad all the way around everybody want this this the way it is fine ...I'll finish out the year and decide next year if I want to play by these trade rules ....forget this vote and stop arguing please .. as long as they blow me off good I'm happy

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:30 AM
she made a trade to compete


With who? Her season is over in 3 games.


so ****in what. Would u rather she do nothing? I would rather last place stay competitive

I still say Pappy hurt his team... as somebody who is fighting for the last spot in the playoffs and if i advance will have to probably play him - im happy he lost rivers and benson. Benson has a cake schedule in our playoffs and Rivers will beast like he always does in Nov-Dec

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:32 AM
It's fine, don't vote. I knew if I said something you would flip out. That is why I said that Byron should have brought it up because you guys would take his opinion better than mine. I also slept on it to make sure I was making the right decision to bring it up. Then I see B said something but everyone just blew him off.
look man you still have a right to your opinion no matter kind of trades you have made in the past..using your history of trading to get you to vote one way or the other is wrong ..you shouldn't veto because you this or that.. bull**** ...my bad all the way around everybody want this this the way it is fine ...I'll finish out the year and decide next year if I want to play by these trade rules ....forget this vote and stop arguing please .. as long as they blow me off good I'm happy

no, but you should be consistent

to ***** and complain about every other trade that happens while he sets the tone of the league is ridiculous

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 11:37 AM
the league is ridiculous
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bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:38 AM
I have not complained about 1 trade this year Matt (except this one).

Sorry it upsets me that the last place team traded her best player to the team in 3rd place for what? To compete for last? It looks bad and smells bad. If she had a chance to make the playoffs I would understand, but she doesn't. I am not upset about the trade, it seems fair enough. It's the circumstances that bother me. Had it gone down between people in the middle of the pack or people that had similar records it would be fine. There was no reason for Blondie to make that trade. You have yet to give me one....

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:39 AM
It's fine, don't vote. I knew if I said something you would flip out. That is why I said that Byron should have brought it up because you guys would take his opinion better than mine. I also slept on it to make sure I was making the right decision to bring it up. Then I see B said something but everyone just blew him off.
look man you still have a right to your opinion no matter kind of trades you have made in the past..using your history of trading to get you to vote one way or the other is wrong ..you shouldn't veto because you this or that.. bull**** ...my bad all the way around everybody want this this the way it is fine ...I'll finish out the year and decide next year if I want to play by these trade rules ....forget this vote and stop arguing please .. as long as they blow me off good I'm happy

and B i dind' tsee u say anything but break Pappys balls about it. I didn't see you write veto anywhere or else we would of voted and that would of been fine

but i still would of flipped my lid once lando said veto

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:41 AM
to ***** and complain about every other trade that happens while he sets the tone of the league is ridiculous

Again, I have not complained, *****ed, whined or said anything about any trade this year. You are going by my past. I don't blame you and I have admitted that in the past I have been bad. Ever since mid last year when I understood the circumstances I have not said anything. This one bothered me...

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:42 AM
I have not complained about 1 trade this year Matt (except this one).

Sorry it upsets me that the last place team traded her best player to the team in 3rd place for what? To compete for last? It looks bad and smells bad. If she had a chance to make the playoffs I would understand, but she doesn't. I am not upset about the trade, it seems fair enough. It's the circumstances that bother me. Had it gone down between people in the middle of the pack or people that had similar records it would be fine. There was no reason for Blondie to make that trade. You have yet to give me one....




u haven't complained about 1 trade this year?

Was that a joke... u may not of VETOED a trade this year but u certainly complained. Infact u made a comment yesterday about the Romo/Miles trade and you cried about my Andre trade even though theres 4 weeks left in the season and hes missing 3 of them at that time....
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your completely inconsistant and with the Vick deal which lead to u being able to get Graham and AP, its completely garbage.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:43 AM
I just should not have said anything I guess. It just bothered me that B was upset and I knew he wouldn't say anything. I slept on it and made sure I was not being irrational. Then I read what was said this morning and I felt I had to speak up.

I also like how MH just disappears in this whole thing. lol

byron
11-18-2011, 11:46 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


is blondie stacking mooreheads team up ? no

Is blondie a rookie? no

Ben (now has broken thumb on throwing hand) 211 points with no bye yet

MJD 118 points

Rivers 173 points (known to be a second half player and has had bye)

Benson 74 points - and missed a game

Cincy D - top 7 defense



ZERO shot this is vetoable... you have NO GROUNDS.

I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.


Well I did't like the trade so I said something..lando called for a vote ....rules we agreed apond....maybe the rules shoud be... no veto on any trades at all.... bottom line we either have votes or not

i have no problem with u feeling like it was bull****. If you wanted the vote thats fine

but for Lando to call for it and be outraged is a joke. Every reason why he says his Vick trade was okay can an dshould be applied to this trade.
</P>


well as far as I'm concerned the way trades are being handle isn't working out well and leads to arguments every timethis trade that trade comes up....if voting them is going to cause hard feelings then maybe next yearyou have a no vote league on trades everything flys....if a vote is the rule it should be taken before the trade goes through imho...after the fact leads to this bull**** every time...youdid this,he did that **** ...letskeep it in the now ...vote and be done with it....</P>

the thing is - its only an argument if Lando isn't involved in the trade

which has been typically true EVERY year
ostracizing people doesn't cut it...we are all in this together and we all have voice and a right to use it...I don't like the way trades are being handled some are not seeing this trades till way after the fact....if you don't want a vote leauge fine.. but don't give me a vote and tell me not to use it...whatever my bad should have keep my mouth shut its apparent to me now nobody reallylistens ...you got the votes to shut me up thats all that needed to be done instead we get this where everybody feels bad ...I done

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:46 AM
to ***** and complain about every other trade that happens while he sets the tone of the league is ridiculous

Again, I have not complained, *****ed, whined or said anything about any trade this year. You are going by my past. I don't blame you and I have admitted that in the past I have been bad. Ever since mid last year when I understood the circumstances I have not said anything. This one bothered me...


bulllll

shiiitttttt

u *****ed about the Andre and the Romo/Miles trade

and it was funny too because of all the **** u talked about Antoniuo Brown, u turn around and traded for him the following week

Not only do i think this trade is NOT vetoable - i think Moorehead hurt his team.

And regardless - this trade is NO WAY worse than your vick deal. If u you thought it was "fair" to do that trade then you should have ZERO issue with this trade.

Thats the truth of it. Give me more bull**** lines and hindsight why it was okay at the time and how it turned out to be okay and bla bla bla...


but its horse****.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:47 AM
and if Ben and Rivers were on the waiver wire right now and u were having any indecision about who to pick up at this point and time, well then god bless your fantasy soul..

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:49 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


is blondie stacking mooreheads team up ? no

Is blondie a rookie? no

Ben (now has broken thumb on throwing hand) 211 points with no bye yet

MJD 118 points

Rivers 173 points (known to be a second half player and has had bye)

Benson 74 points - and missed a game

Cincy D - top 7 defense



ZERO shot this is vetoable... you have NO GROUNDS.

I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.


Well I did't like the trade so I said something..lando called for a vote ....rules we agreed apond....maybe the rules shoud be... no veto on any trades at all.... bottom line we either have votes or not

i have no problem with u feeling like it was bull****. If you wanted the vote thats fine

but for Lando to call for it and be outraged is a joke. Every reason why he says his Vick trade was okay can an dshould be applied to this trade.
</p>


well as far as I'm concerned the way trades are being handle isn't working out well and leads to arguments every timethis trade that trade comes up....if voting them is going to cause hard feelings then maybe next yearyou have a no vote league on trades everything flys....if a vote is the rule it should be taken before the trade goes through imho...after the fact leads to this bull**** every time...youdid this,he did that **** ...letskeep it in the now ...vote and be done with it....</p>

the thing is - its only an argument if Lando isn't involved in the trade

which has been typically true EVERY year
ostracizing people doesn't cut it...we are all in this together and we all have voice and a right to use it...I don't like the way trades are being handled some are not seeing this trades till way after the fact....if you don't want a vote leauge fine.. but don't give me a vote and tell me not to use it...whatever my bad should have keep my mouth shut its apparent to me now nobody reallylistens ...you got the votes to shut me up thats all that needed to be done instead we get this where everybody feels bad ...I done

i have issues with consistancy. Don't rape someone, which leads you to get one of the best fantasy QBs , the best TE in the league, and the #1 overall pick and then come with some bull**** on a pretty fair trade and say u want to veto it....


I find it amazing this conversation is even happening form his end

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:49 AM
I have not complained about 1 trade this year Matt (except this one).

Sorry it upsets me that the last place team traded her best player to the team in 3rd place for what? To compete for last? It looks bad and smells bad. If she had a chance to make the playoffs I would understand, but she doesn't. I am not upset about the trade, it seems fair enough. It's the circumstances that bother me. Had it gone down between people in the middle of the pack or people that had similar records it would be fine. There was no reason for Blondie to make that trade. You have yet to give me one....




u haven't complained about 1 trade this year?

Was that a joke... u may not of VETOED a trade this year but u certainly complained. Infact u made a comment yesterday about the Romo/Miles trade and you cried about my Andre trade even though theres 4 weeks left in the season and hes missing 3 of them at that time....
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your completely inconsistant and with the Vick deal which lead to u being able to get Graham and AP, its completely garbage.

Dude, it has nothing to do with the players that were traded. It's the teams and where they are.

Giving you a hard time about a trade and crying it 2 different things. Apparently I will never be able to shake my rep no matter how well I try and act so I'm not sure what to do. Doesn't matter I guess but I am not the boy who cried wolf (at least this year).

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:51 AM
Have a great weekend everyone. Go Giants!

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 11:53 AM
aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh really LOUD SCREAM.

I am so pissed at the ***** at the town for ****ing up my whole
generator job. It seems to me that she is a racist. My electrician walks
in there and all of a sudden there is a new set of rules(outside of
code) for my generator. The generator could of been in my original
location, nice and flat outside the sliding glass doors....but this
****ing idiot tells my elect. that it has to be on a concrete pad far enough
away from my house. Elect. and the propane guy who was at my
house today both said that is not required by code. Now my ****ing
generator is perched on the hillside with a monstrosity of concrete
underneath it......and I am in the middle of a ****fest between the town inspectors, clerks and building dept, propane company....etc.. Another delay.


you shouldnt of told the town [:)]
Smart young man....that would of been my preference. I was forced to tell them when the propane connection had to be made. They have to cover their *** with an inspection.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:53 AM
You made the rules Matt. I'm just following them...


is blondie stacking mooreheads team up ? no

Is blondie a rookie? no

Ben (now has broken thumb on throwing hand) 211 points with no bye yet

MJD 118 points

Rivers 173 points (known to be a second half player and has had bye)

Benson 74 points - and missed a game

Cincy D - top 7 defense



ZERO shot this is vetoable... you have NO GROUNDS.

I got money, whatever u want to put on it that Benson/Rivers outscores Ben/MJD for the next 5 weeks.


Well I did't like the trade so I said something..lando called for a vote ....rules we agreed apond....maybe the rules shoud be... no veto on any trades at all.... bottom line we either have votes or not

i have no problem with u feeling like it was bull****. If you wanted the vote thats fine

but for Lando to call for it and be outraged is a joke. Every reason why he says his Vick trade was okay can an dshould be applied to this trade.
</p>


well as far as I'm concerned the way trades are being handle isn't working out well and leads to arguments every timethis trade that trade comes up....if voting them is going to cause hard feelings then maybe next yearyou have a no vote league on trades everything flys....if a vote is the rule it should be taken before the trade goes through imho...after the fact leads to this bull**** every time...youdid this,he did that **** ...letskeep it in the now ...vote and be done with it....</p>

the thing is - its only an argument if Lando isn't involved in the trade

which has been typically true EVERY year
ostracizing people doesn't cut it...we are all in this together and we all have voice and a right to use it...I don't like the way trades are being handled some are not seeing this trades till way after the fact....if you don't want a vote leauge fine.. but don't give me a vote and tell me not to use it...whatever my bad should have keep my mouth shut its apparent to me now nobody reallylistens ...you got the votes to shut me up thats all that needed to be done instead we get this where everybody feels bad ...I done

and as we stated last time -

just because the trade went through - doesn't mean anything. If the league were to veto something it could still be reversed.... so thats doesn't matter

again for the 4th time B, i take NO issue with your opinion. I take it with Landos. Don't abuse the system and then flip flop because YOUR not involved wtih it. Thats bull****

And not for nothing, the last trade u wanted to veto where u thought I was ripping shock off, i wish i could have back. aNd I wish I could have it back before Schaub went down for the year becuase that specific week that i traded Romo it was like he regained form and stopped looking hurt

Then reports came out that he was healthy all of a sudden.

But again please grasp this last comment becuase i've responded to u multiple times with it but u still feel like im attacking you, i'm not. I'm attacking Lando for his flip floppiung

and in NO WAY that in the moment this trade is worse tha nthat vick trade was in the moment. ZERO shot

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 11:55 AM
And again, it has NOTHING to do with the players. It's the circumstances of the trade and the teams records that are trading. Blondie has nothing to play for, MH has everything to play for.

I am not questioning Blondies character or integrity either. She is one of the best and most honest people I have ever met. I know she is not trying to do anything fishy or try to load MH's team. I just don't see any reason for her to try and improve her team. Her season is over and she gives up her best player.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:56 AM
I have not complained about 1 trade this year Matt (except this one).

Sorry it upsets me that the last place team traded her best player to the team in 3rd place for what? To compete for last? It looks bad and smells bad. If she had a chance to make the playoffs I would understand, but she doesn't. I am not upset about the trade, it seems fair enough. It's the circumstances that bother me. Had it gone down between people in the middle of the pack or people that had similar records it would be fine. There was no reason for Blondie to make that trade. You have yet to give me one....




u haven't complained about 1 trade this year?

Was that a joke... u may not of VETOED a trade this year but u certainly complained. Infact u made a comment yesterday about the Romo/Miles trade and you cried about my Andre trade even though theres 4 weeks left in the season and hes missing 3 of them at that time....
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your completely inconsistant and with the Vick deal which lead to u being able to get Graham and AP, its completely garbage.

Dude, it has nothing to do with the players that were traded. It's the teams and where they are.

Giving you a hard time about a trade and crying it 2 different things. Apparently I will never be able to shake my rep no matter how well I try and act so I'm not sure what to do. Doesn't matter I guess but I am not the boy who cried wolf (at least this year).


how well u act?

YOu've complained about every possibly lopsided trade in the league, you've pulled off the biggest lopsided trade for 3 years in a row, and then u try to veto when somebody else mirrors what u do (in your opinion)? How is that you acting well

its you flip flopping

and u've YET to acknowledge any of my points baout the Ben vs Rivers so that just tell me that ur willing to say anything to prevent MJD from going to PAppy's team. Stop pretending like this is anything more than that. Who cares where the trade comes from, we have no rules in place to prevent bottom feeders from trading. It happened, shes making moves.

I STILL think Moorehead hurt his team and as somebody hwo has a better shot at seeing him in the playoffs (me if i make it) i think u should respect that more

byron
11-18-2011, 11:57 AM
I just should not have said anything I guess. It just bothered me that B was upset and I knew he wouldn't say anything. I slept on it and made sure I was not being irrational. Then I read what was said this morning and I felt I had to speak up.

I also like how MH just disappears in this whole thing. lol
your a good friend Landon but I do and will speak up whenI see the needthe... timing of this trade is pure bull****.. I never would have made that offer but thats just me ...I don'twant to put you at odds with your friends hereever...that's why I came in here this morning and spoke out.... I don't like the trade...or the way trades are being handled in this leauge..........thanks for your support Landon.....

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:58 AM
And again, it has NOTHING to do with the players. It's the circumstances of the trade and the teams records that are trading. Blondie has nothing to play for, MH has everything to play for.

I am not questioning Blondies character or integrity either. She is one of the best and most honest people I have ever met. I know she is not trying to do anything fishy or try to load MH's team. I just don't see any reason for her to try and improve her team. Her season is over and she gives up her best player.

well then your just wrong in general

we have no rules in place for that and even by veto'ing standards its not vetoable

I sitll say Moorehead made a mistake trading away Rivers

If there was ever a period of time you WANT to have rivers its now. If there was ever a period of time you DONT want Ben, its not with a broken thumb on his throwing hand

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 11:59 AM
and not for nothing ur argument has already changed from its not about the players its about the teams who are trading

byron
11-18-2011, 12:00 PM
And again, it has NOTHING to do with the players. It's the circumstances of the trade and the teams records that are trading. Blondie has nothing to play for, MH has everything to play for.

<FONT color=#0000ff>I am not questioning Blondies character or integrity either. She is one of the best and most honest people I have ever met.</FONT> I know she is not trying to do anything fishy or try to load MH's team. I just don't see any reason for her to try and improve her team. Her season is over and she gives up her best player.
+1 here

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:01 PM
I just should not have said anything I guess. It just bothered me that B was upset and I knew he wouldn't say anything. I slept on it and made sure I was not being irrational. Then I read what was said this morning and I felt I had to speak up.

I also like how MH just disappears in this whole thing. lol
your a good friend Landon but I do and will speak up whenI see the needthe... timing of this trade is pure bull****.. I never would have made that offer but thats just me ...I don'twant to put you at odds with your friends hereever...that's why I came in here this morning and spoke out.... I don't like the trade...or the way trades are being handled in this leauge..........thanks for your support Landon.....

na we can always put fantasy in fantasy terms. It isn't like im not going to talk to him if he texts me later

but on the fantasy aspect of things i think its horse****.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:02 PM
And again, it has NOTHING to do with the players. It's the circumstances of the trade and the teams records that are trading. Blondie has nothing to play for, MH has everything to play for.

<font color="#0000ff">I am not questioning Blondies character or integrity either. She is one of the best and most honest people I have ever met.</font> I know she is not trying to do anything fishy or try to load MH's team. I just don't see any reason for her to try and improve her team. Her season is over and she gives up her best player.
+1 here

i think Pappy made his team worse

bottom line.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:03 PM
serious question for both of u guys

say i made this trade with pappy - u wouldn' tstill be looking to veto it?

Im sorry im not buying that on landos end. He already tried making the comparison that Ben/Rivers is wash and that Benson &amp; Cincy 4 MJD isn't fair

dezzzR
11-18-2011, 12:06 PM
im peeeed vick is out.

byron
11-18-2011, 12:19 PM
serious question for both of u guys

say i made this trade with pappy - u wouldn' tstill be looking to veto it?

Im sorry im not buying that on landos end. He already tried making the comparison that Ben/Rivers is wash and that Benson &amp; Cincy 4 MJD isn't fair
oh man... a horse of a different color sorry man I'm to tiredfor that one...its seems to me that debating a formalproposedtrade posted on the ff site for all to see and be notafied for a reasonable amount of timebefore it is approved makes far more since then this way.... after the fact seems so after the fact and fruitless....I surrender!</P>


I'm a ****ing idiotI don't **** about ff and I like busting Mh's balls!!...forgive me </P>

dezzzR
11-18-2011, 12:20 PM
lol would someone be so kind as to remind me how to put up an av, im ******ed. [:D]

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:24 PM
serious question for both of u guys

say i made this trade with pappy - u wouldn' tstill be looking to veto it?

Im sorry im not buying that on landos end. He already tried making the comparison that Ben/Rivers is wash and that Benson &amp; Cincy 4 MJD isn't fair
oh man... a horse of a different color sorry man I'm to tiredfor that one...its seems to me that debating a formalproposedtrade posted on the ff site for all to see and be notafied for a reasonable amount of timebefore it is approved makes far more since then this way.... after the fact seems so after the fact and fruitless....I surrender!</p>


I'm a ****ing idiotI don't **** about ff and I like busting Mh's balls!!...forgive me </p>

yea but whatever, just because its through doesn't mean it can't be taken back is what i mean. I mean its the same thing as looking at the waiver wire - all trades are put on there. Isn't that how ur notified?


lol Byron this really isn't about u. Its just about Lando biting the hand that fed him (the trading rules) by turning around and taking issue with it because hes not involved.


Bottom line if Lando was moorehead in this instance, he would want it put through but because its not him he takes issues

It can't be like that.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:30 PM
and lando - since you ARE going to be personal and be dismissive when i text you thats fine.. i'll just air it out here

because your calculating of the vick trade is completely off as well:

Since week 5 Vick has had 97.30 points Ryan has had 119.80, Washington has had 16.6

Granted its still worked out but no where near the amount ur suggesting

Its almost like saying you would of accepted Ryan 4 Vick straight up at that time

byron
11-18-2011, 12:32 PM
serious question for both of u guys

say i made this trade with pappy - u wouldn' tstill be looking to veto it?

Im sorry im not buying that on landos end. He already tried making the comparison that Ben/Rivers is wash and that Benson &amp; Cincy 4 MJD isn't fair
oh man... a horse of a different color sorry man I'm to tiredfor that one...its seems to me that debating a formalproposedtrade posted on the ff site for all to see and be notafied for a reasonable amount of timebefore it is approved makes far more since then this way.... after the fact seems so after the fact and fruitless....I surrender!</P>


I'm a ****ing idiotI don't **** about ff and I like busting Mh's balls!!...forgive me </P>




yea but whatever, just because its through doesn't mean it can't be taken back is what i mean. I mean its the same thing as looking at the waiver wire - all trades are put on there. Isn't that how ur notified?


lol <FONT color=#0000ff>Byron this really isn't about u. Its just about Lando biting the hand that fed him (the trading rules) by turning around and taking issue with it because hes not involved.


Bottom line if Lando was moorehead in this instance, he would want it put through but because its not him he takes issues

It can't be like that.
</FONT></P>


well that leaves the rest of us watching the manipulation sorry man i don't like the way it goes...nothing personal Matt love ya man</P>


don't compair trading to waiver wire there is no vote </P>

Morehead State
11-18-2011, 12:34 PM
Sorry people....I was away living my life. What did I miss?</P>


</P>


Let me deak with Lando's objections.</P>


1. She has something to play for. She owes the league her best effort. Not sure who else she is still playing but I know she's playing me. So the notion that a player has nothing to play for is silly.</P>


2. I looked at Amanda's matchup and it was clear she had bye problems this week. She was faced with playing Sanchez for God's sake and she had 2 bad defenses. She's up against G and as i said she has a responsibility to play it straight. I offered Rivers and Cincy D and and Benson for MJD and Ben. Ben and Rivers may or may not be a wash but they are close. But the fact that Ben is on a bye with only 3 weeks left gives a clear edge to Rivers. Especially since she had Sanchez.</P>


I think MJD is better than Benson obviously but with the Cincy D thats a pretty good deal for both teams.</P>


Some may disagree but its a reasonable position. I looked at her needs and mine and tried to address both.</P>


I really think its fair. It helps both teams. And since there is no funny business here, just as the AP trade for lando, its not questionable at all.</P>

Morehead State
11-18-2011, 12:37 PM
serious question for both of u guys

say i made this trade with pappy - u wouldn' tstill be looking to veto it?

Im sorry im not buying that on landos end. He already tried making the comparison that Ben/Rivers is wash and that Benson &amp; Cincy 4 MJD isn't fair
oh man... a horse of a different color sorry man I'm to tiredfor that one...its seems to me that debating a formalproposedtrade posted on the ff site for all to see and be notafied for a reasonable amount of timebefore it is approved makes far more since then this way.... after the fact seems so after the fact and fruitless....I surrender!</P>


I'm a ****ing idiotI don't **** about ff and I like busting Mh's balls!!...forgive me </P>


</P>


Byron...whats your problem with the trade? You don't think Rivers over Sanchez is a huge help to Amanda this week. The trade helps both teams and thats always the goal.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:37 PM
serious question for both of u guys

say i made this trade with pappy - u wouldn' tstill be looking to veto it?

Im sorry im not buying that on landos end. He already tried making the comparison that Ben/Rivers is wash and that Benson &amp; Cincy 4 MJD isn't fair
oh man... a horse of a different color sorry man I'm to tiredfor that one...its seems to me that debating a formalproposedtrade posted on the ff site for all to see and be notafied for a reasonable amount of timebefore it is approved makes far more since then this way.... after the fact seems so after the fact and fruitless....I surrender!</p>


I'm a ****ing idiotI don't **** about ff and I like busting Mh's balls!!...forgive me </p>




yea but whatever, just because its through doesn't mean it can't be taken back is what i mean. I mean its the same thing as looking at the waiver wire - all trades are put on there. Isn't that how ur notified?


lol <font color="#0000ff">Byron this really isn't about u. Its just about Lando biting the hand that fed him (the trading rules) by turning around and taking issue with it because hes not involved.


Bottom line if Lando was moorehead in this instance, he would want it put through but because its not him he takes issues

It can't be like that.
</font></p>


well that leaves the rest of us watching the manipulation sorry man i don't like the way it goes...nothing personal Matt love ya man</p>


don't compair trading to waiver wire there is no vote </p>

don't get what u mean. Thats where u would see it? The voting still takes place on the boards so im missing what your saying the difference is

i don't get what u mean by manipulating. Like I said, i have no issue if the rest of the league thinks it should be vetoed. I personally am not voting it because I think Moorehead just screwed his QB situation royally. I dont think the MJD upgrade over benson will end up mattering when hes picking up a FA QB in two weeks to play.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 12:41 PM
serious question for both of u guys

say i made this trade with pappy - u wouldn' tstill be looking to veto it?


NEVER

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 12:42 PM
and lando - since you ARE going to be personal and be dismissive when i text you thats fine.. i'll just air it out here

because your calculating of the vick trade is completely off as well:

Since week 5 Vick has had 97.30 points Ryan has had 119.80, Washington has had 16.6

Granted its still worked out but no where near the amount ur suggesting

Its almost like saying you would of accepted Ryan 4 Vick straight up at that time

You need to go since week 4.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:43 PM
Sorry people....I was away living my life. What did I miss?</p>


</p>


Let me deak with Lando's objections.</p>


1. She has something to play for. She owes the league her best effort. Not sure who else she is still playing but I know she's playing me. So the notion that a player has nothing to play for is silly.</p>


2. I looked at Amanda's matchup and it was clear she had bye problems this week. She was faced with playing Sanchez for God's sake and she had 2 bad defenses. She's up against G and as i said she has a responsibility to play it straight. I offered Rivers and Cincy D and and Benson for MJD and Ben. Ben and Rivers may or may not be a wash but they are close. But the fact that Ben is on a bye with only 3 weeks left gives a clear edge to Rivers. Especially since she had Sanchez.</p>


I think MJD is better than Benson obviously but with the Cincy D thats a pretty good deal for both teams.</p>


Some may disagree but its a reasonable position. I looked at her needs and mine and tried to address both.</p>


I really think its fair. It helps both teams. And since there is no funny business here, just as the AP trade for lando, its not questionable at all.</p>

and this is where I think u screwed urself pappy personally:

NO WAY RIVERS and BEn are a wash from here on out.

We all konw Rivers is a November - December player and Ben just BROKE THE THUMB ON HIS THROWING HAND. Why does this fact just get glossed over?

Yea the trade matters to me actually for instance. IF she can beat G's up that will get a team off my back.

Shes playing 2 top 3 teams and a team on the bubble. To suggest she has nothing to play for is ridic. I love the fact that that she isn't just handing wins over and is at least trying. Every bottom feeder should do that. Especially when it hurts a top team who thinks hes getting a deal [;)]

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:44 PM
and lando - since you ARE going to be personal and be dismissive when i text you thats fine.. i'll just air it out here

because your calculating of the vick trade is completely off as well:

Since week 5 Vick has had 97.30 points Ryan has had 119.80, Washington has had 16.6

Granted its still worked out but no where near the amount ur suggesting

Its almost like saying you would of accepted Ryan 4 Vick straight up at that time

You need to go since week 4.


you still had matt ryan week 4. you need to go to week 5

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 12:44 PM
timing of this trade is pure bull****..
^^^

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:47 PM
serious question for both of u guys

say i made this trade with pappy - u wouldn' tstill be looking to veto it?


NEVER



well thats horse****

and do u know why i think its horse****???

"Ben and Phillip are a wash.

MJD for Benson and Cin D

If that trade went through by itself you would be ok with that. "

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:48 PM
do u want to know what the funniest ****in thing about this is?

If theres ANYBODY that should be happy about this trade its LANDO!

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:51 PM
timing of this trade is pure bull****..
^^^


the timing of the trade made it that much better imo

She got Rivers right around the time hes due to explode and the same time Ben broke the thumb in his throwing hand.

She actually has a chance to knock someone out of the playoffs and rearrange first place for Lando to step in and win. The fact that you don't like it makes it hiliarious

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 12:54 PM
I'm over it. I should have just stayed away like I originally planned.

Good luck to everyone. I guess if I wasn't so competitive I wouldn't care as much as I do so partly it's my fault.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 12:57 PM
I'm over it. I should have just stayed away like I originally planned.

Good luck to everyone. I guess if I wasn't so competitive I wouldn't care as much as I do so partly it's my fault.




you should have stayed away because you come off like a hypocrite for bashing something that u do....

Either way for YOU of all people to say she has nothing the play for is ridiculous. SHE may be the reason you keep a bye spot.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 12:58 PM
do u want to know what the funniest ****in thing about this is?

If theres ANYBODY that should be happy about this trade its LANDO!

I guess in a certain aspect you are correct. If Blondie beats him next week then I probably will be happy about it lol. Then she plays B the week after so I understand where you are coming from.

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 01:01 PM
I'm over it. I should have just stayed away like I originally planned.

Good luck to everyone. I guess if I wasn't so competitive I wouldn't care as much as I do so partly it's my fault.




you should have stayed away because you come off like a hypocrite for bashing something that u do....

Either way for YOU of all people to say she has nothing the play for is ridiculous. SHE may be the reason you keep a bye spot.



Vick surely won't.

I was not bashing anyone either, I made that clear. Something that I do?

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 01:01 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:04 PM
I'm over it. I should have just stayed away like I originally planned.

Good luck to everyone. I guess if I wasn't so competitive I wouldn't care as much as I do so partly it's my fault.




you should have stayed away because you come off like a hypocrite for bashing something that u do....

Either way for YOU of all people to say she has nothing the play for is ridiculous. SHE may be the reason you keep a bye spot.



Vick surely won't.

I was not bashing anyone either, I made that clear. Something that I do?


yea, u can stray from the fact that ur original beef with this trade was that u considered it lopsided but i won't. You pull lopsided trades and its okay but when another top team does its a problem

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 01:05 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:08 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 01:19 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.


Pizz--Look Carmel Branch Manager has been moonlighting.

http://www.americancurvesmag.com/galleries/jessica-canizales/
http://www.americancurvesmag.com/nooner/images/2011/Nov-18-JessicaCanizales.jpg

dezzzR
11-18-2011, 01:19 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1
and argue like a bunch of women on the view? no thanks lol

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:21 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1
and argue like a bunch of women on the view? no thanks lol


hmmm something we must of did must of flipped the switch in "their" head. We said something to Pizz and then Dezz answered

weird

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:21 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1
and argue like a bunch of women on the view? no thanks lol


hmmm something we must of did must of flipped the switch in "their" head. We said something to Pizz and then Dezz answered

weird

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 01:21 PM
No Ray Lewis this weekend...

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 01:23 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.
</P>


lol, not exactly. 8 pages of nonsense today on teh boards. cant say i missed that very much lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:24 PM
No Ray Lewis this weekend...


that Benson trade keeps looking better and better doesn't it

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:25 PM
No Ray Lewis this weekend...


that Benson trade keeps looking better and better doesn't it

bigblue4417
11-18-2011, 01:25 PM
<div class="report">


Justin Tuck acknowledges that his play has suffered this season due to neck and groin injuries.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"I do suck," Tuck said. "I'm a very honest person
... I'm not a very good player now. I do look at myself on film, and I
don't like what I see." Tuck was missing from practice on Friday after
participating in mid-week practices. He may have aggravated an injury.
</div>

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:25 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.
</p>


lol, not exactly. 8 pages of nonsense today on teh boards. cant say i missed that very much lol</p>

not all of us have Buffy Season 2 Disc 3 to get us through the days

dezzzR
11-18-2011, 01:28 PM
<div class="report">


Justin Tuck acknowledges that his play has suffered this season due to neck and groin injuries.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"I do suck," Tuck said. "I'm a very honest person
... I'm not a very good player now. I do look at myself on film, and I
don't like what I see." Tuck was missing from practice on Friday after
participating in mid-week practices. He may have aggravated an injury.
</div>we should let him rest. let jpp do work.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:31 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.
</p>


lol, not exactly. 8 pages of nonsense today on teh boards. cant say i missed that very much lol</p>

not all of us have Buffy Season 2 Disc 3 to get us through the days


or are u still on Disc 1?

http://www.covershut.com/cd_covers/Buffy-The-Vampire-Slayer-Season-2-Cd-Cover-38453.jpg

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 01:33 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.
</P>


lol, not exactly. 8 pages of nonsense today on teh boards. cant say i missed that very much lol</P>




not all of us have Buffy Season 2 Disc 3 to get us through the days
</P>


ahhh...season 2...that's a good one</P>


lol</P>

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 01:36 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1
and argue like a bunch of women on the view? no thanks lol


hmmm something we must of did must of flipped the switch in "their" head. We said something to Pizz and then Dezz answered

weird
Either I'm too green or I dunno, after reading all this for weeks now,,,,I keep trying to find a way that MMB screwed me in this league this year and I can't find one? Is it just that my team sucks so bad that I'm not included? This year was screwed up for me....I did what I was suppossed to do every week(moves on roster-replacing needed players, etc.) but I just rarely had enough firepower to get enough pts to win.

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 01:38 PM
<div class="report">


Justin Tuck acknowledges that his play has suffered this season due to neck and groin injuries.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"I do suck," Tuck said. "I'm a very honest person
... I'm not a very good player now. I do look at myself on film, and I
don't like what I see." Tuck was missing from practice on Friday after
participating in mid-week practices. He may have aggravated an injury.
</div>we should let him rest. let jpp do work.
Really sucked to hear Tuck say that today. He has 2 sacks and 10 tackles on the year and he's feeling sad. [:(]

Morehead State
11-18-2011, 01:44 PM
Our FF league is not for the faint of heart. thats what makes it so fun. Probably good that Pizz isn't in it anymore.</P>


Relationships and personalities are so strong that we go ape**** over some of this stuff. great passion for a $50.00/team league. </P>


As far as I'm concerned its great. And Lando isn't going anywhere next year because he loves this **** as much as any of us.</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:46 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1
and argue like a bunch of women on the view? no thanks lol


hmmm something we must of did must of flipped the switch in "their" head. We said something to Pizz and then Dezz answered

weird
Either I'm too green or I dunno, after reading all this for weeks now,,,,I keep trying to find a way that MMB screwed me in this league this year and I can't find one? Is it just that my team sucks so bad that I'm not included? This year was screwed up for me....I did what I was suppossed to do every week(moves on roster-replacing needed players, etc.) but I just rarely had enough firepower to get enough pts to win.


way that i screwed you?

I don't screw people. Plus u have newbie status so all trades that u are involved wtih automatically get extra attention in thi sleague lol.

U had a bad year cuz Charles went down. Your just getting the hang of it, you'll pick it up next year dont sweat it.

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 01:47 PM
or are u still on Disc 1?

</P>


***** please, you know I seen all that ****....</P>


lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 01:49 PM
Our FF league is not for the faint of heart. thats what makes it so fun. Probably good that Pizz isn't in it anymore.</p>


Relationships and personalities are so strong that we go ape**** over some of this stuff. great passion for a $50.00/team league. </p>


As far as I'm concerned its great. And Lando isn't going anywhere next year because he loves this **** as much as any of us.</p>


</p>

yea snooki's squad can't hang, thats why he had to quit and make up some weak sauce excuse why

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 01:49 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1
and argue like a bunch of women on the view? no thanks lol


hmmm something we must of did must of flipped the switch in "their" head. We said something to Pizz and then Dezz answered

weird
Either I'm too green or I dunno, after reading all this for weeks now,,,,I keep trying to find a way that MMB screwed me in this league this year and I can't find one? Is it just that my team sucks so bad that I'm not included? This year was screwed up for me....I did what I was suppossed to do every week(moves on roster-replacing needed players, etc.) but I just rarely had enough firepower to get enough pts to win.


way that i screwed you?

I don't screw people. Plus u have newbie status so all trades that u are involved wtih automatically get extra attention in thi sleague lol.

U had a bad year cuz Charles went down. Your just getting the hang of it, you'll pick it up next year dont sweat it.
I don't think you screwed me...I was being facetious...with all the MMB'd talk this week. LOL. It's tough, I have a competitive personality..when I'm not kicking ***, I lose interest very quickly.

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 01:51 PM
Our FF league is not for the faint of heart. thats what makes it so fun. Probably good that Pizz isn't in it anymore.</p>


Relationships and personalities are so strong that we go ape**** over some of this stuff. great passion for a $50.00/team league. </p>


As far as I'm concerned its great. And Lando isn't going anywhere next year because he loves this **** as much as any of us.</p>


</p>

yea snooki's squad can't hang, thats why he had to quit and make up some weak sauce excuse why
Saw something on the news the other night--Snooki's got some big $ deal going on for marketing something-I changed the channel. Jesus, Snooki's
going to be worth more than the train wreck Lindsay Lohan.

dezzzR
11-18-2011, 01:55 PM
Our FF league is not for the faint of heart. thats what makes it so fun. Probably good that Pizz isn't in it anymore.</p>


Relationships and personalities are so strong that we go ape**** over some of this stuff. great passion for a $50.00/team league. </p>


As far as I'm concerned its great. And Lando isn't going anywhere next year because he loves this **** as much as any of us.</p>


</p>

yea snooki's squad can't hang, thats why he had to quit and make up some weak sauce excuse why
lmao. pizz if you do play next year, please make that your team name

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 02:04 PM
Our FF league is not for the faint of heart. thats what makes it so fun. Probably good that Pizz isn't in it anymore.</P>


Relationships and personalities are so strong that we go ape**** over some of this stuff. great passion for a $50.00/team league. </P>


As far as I'm concerned its great. And Lando isn't going anywhere next year because he loves this **** as much as any of us.</P>


</P>




yea snooki's squad can't hang, thats why he had to quit and make up some weak sauce excuse why
lmao. pizz if you do play next year, please make that your team name
</P>


**** you guys....I run Poughkeepsie.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 02:09 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1
and argue like a bunch of women on the view? no thanks lol


hmmm something we must of did must of flipped the switch in "their" head. We said something to Pizz and then Dezz answered

weird
Either I'm too green or I dunno, after reading all this for weeks now,,,,I keep trying to find a way that MMB screwed me in this league this year and I can't find one? Is it just that my team sucks so bad that I'm not included? This year was screwed up for me....I did what I was suppossed to do every week(moves on roster-replacing needed players, etc.) but I just rarely had enough firepower to get enough pts to win.


way that i screwed you?

I don't screw people. Plus u have newbie status so all trades that u are involved wtih automatically get extra attention in thi sleague lol.

U had a bad year cuz Charles went down. Your just getting the hang of it, you'll pick it up next year dont sweat it.
I don't think you screwed me...I was being facetious...with all the MMB'd talk this week. LOL. It's tough, I have a competitive personality..when I'm not kicking ***, I lose interest very quickly.


yea whatever, its almost good to suck the first year in a competitive league... so u learn the ropes and don't **** anything up lol

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 02:10 PM
Our FF league is not for the faint of heart. thats what makes it so fun. Probably good that Pizz isn't in it anymore.</p>


Relationships and personalities are so strong that we go ape**** over some of this stuff. great passion for a $50.00/team league. </p>


As far as I'm concerned its great. And Lando isn't going anywhere next year because he loves this **** as much as any of us.</p>


</p>




yea snooki's squad can't hang, thats why he had to quit and make up some weak sauce excuse why
lmao. pizz if you do play next year, please make that your team name
</p>


I **** snookie in Poughkeepsie
</p>

we know Pizz, we know

I bet that switch in ur head doesn't flip when your in the process of doing that

Dezz don't want nothin to do with that

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 02:19 PM
Our FF league is not for the faint of heart. thats what makes it so fun. Probably good that Pizz isn't in it anymore.</P>


Relationships and personalities are so strong that we go ape**** over some of this stuff. great passion for a $50.00/team league. </P>


As far as I'm concerned its great. And Lando isn't going anywhere next year because he loves this **** as much as any of us.</P>


</P>




yea snooki's squad can't hang, thats why he had to quit and make up some weak sauce excuse why
lmao. pizz if you do play next year, please make that your team name
</P>


I **** snookie in Poughkeepsie
</P>




we know Pizz, we know

I bet that switch in ur head doesn't flip when your in the process of doing that

Dezz don't want nothin to do with that
</P>


I've never seen her out actually, which is weird...but i assume that if I was drunk around her, I might get the **** kicked out of me lol. I dont know who shes out with, but i assume it's an entourage of sorts.</P>


oh, and **** you, Matt</P>

dezzzR
11-18-2011, 02:21 PM
Our FF league is not for the faint of heart. thats what makes it so fun. Probably good that Pizz isn't in it anymore.</p>


Relationships and personalities are so strong that we go ape**** over some of this stuff. great passion for a $50.00/team league. </p>


As far as I'm concerned its great. And Lando isn't going anywhere next year because he loves this **** as much as any of us.</p>


</p>




yea snooki's squad can't hang, thats why he had to quit and make up some weak sauce excuse why
lmao. pizz if you do play next year, please make that your team name
</p>


I **** snookie in Poughkeepsie
</p>

we know Pizz, we know

I bet that switch in ur head doesn't flip when your in the process of doing that

Dezz don't want nothin to do with that
if i switch back in mid sesh im gonna be piiiissed pizzz

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 02:23 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!???!?!?!
I know you wish you were still in the league. I don't know how you live with yourself missing all this fun.



+1
and argue like a bunch of women on the view? no thanks lol


hmmm something we must of did must of flipped the switch in "their" head. We said something to Pizz and then Dezz answered

weird
Either I'm too green or I dunno, after reading all this for weeks now,,,,I keep trying to find a way that MMB screwed me in this league this year and I can't find one? Is it just that my team sucks so bad that I'm not included? This year was screwed up for me....I did what I was suppossed to do every week(moves on roster-replacing needed players, etc.) but I just rarely had enough firepower to get enough pts to win.


way that i screwed you?

I don't screw people. Plus u have newbie status so all trades that u are involved wtih automatically get extra attention in thi sleague lol.

U had a bad year cuz Charles went down. Your just getting the hang of it, you'll pick it up next year dont sweat it.
I don't think you screwed me...I was being facetious...with all the MMB'd talk this week. LOL. It's tough, I have a competitive personality..when I'm not kicking ***, I lose interest very quickly.


yea whatever, its almost good to suck the first year in a competitive league... so u learn the ropes and don't **** anything up lol
It was still fun, thanks to everyone for helping me out with it. I'll do it again. E

JPizzack
11-18-2011, 02:27 PM
if i switch back in mid sesh im gonna be piiiissed pizzz
</P>


who do you think I am? Bandwgn?! I never been a chubby chaser, not now, not neva!

btw...where has Bandy been? he's been M.I.A.</P>

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 02:43 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.

dezzzR
11-18-2011, 02:50 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.
sooooo rebar wasnt a good idea? lol sorry man that sucks. who was giving you the attitude? the town?

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 03:08 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.


tell them an apology is nice, being reimbursed is fair.

ITs not your fault that they hired uneducated people that you HAVE to listen to

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 03:12 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.
sooooo rebar wasnt a good idea? lol sorry man that sucks. who was giving you the attitude? the town?
haha, I should not laugh--as I planned all the rebar install, I thought to myself, boy, I hope I don't have to take this apart-LOL. I will assume responsibility---I should have questioned the town.

I was involved in this one from the start, I created the drawings with the propane co.--I took them to the town myself with the permit fees and documentation.

I went to see the woman in charge at the town twice--each time I left all was wonderful. My electrician went in there one day and EVERYTHING changed. He's a good guy that I have worked with for years. That's where I failed---I should of went immediately back to the town and asked why the change? I even considered doing that before I did the concrete. That's what burns my ***.

DAMMMMMITTT.

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 03:15 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.
sooooo rebar wasnt a good idea? lol sorry man that sucks. who was giving you the attitude? the town?
haha, I should not laugh--as I planned all the rebar install, I thought to myself, boy, I hope I don't have to take this apart-LOL. I will assume responsibility---I should have questioned the town.

I was involved in this one from the start, I created the drawings with the propane co.--I took them to the town myself with the permit fees and documentation.

I went to see the woman in charge at the town twice--each time I left all was wonderful. My electrician went in there one day and EVERYTHING changed. He's a good guy that I have worked with for years. That's where I failed---I should of went immediately back to the town and asked why the change? I even considered doing that before I did the concrete. That's what burns my ***.

DAMMMMMITTT.




fuccckkk thattttt

i would flip it on them

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 03:15 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.


tell them an apology is nice, being reimbursed is fair.

ITs not your fault that they hired uneducated people that you HAVE to listen to
Good Point. Wife said same, lol. What's the chance I ever get paid from the town for my time and materials without legal expenses?

MattMeyerBud
11-18-2011, 03:17 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.


tell them an apology is nice, being reimbursed is fair.

ITs not your fault that they hired uneducated people that you HAVE to listen to
Good Point. Wife said same, lol. What's the chance I ever get paid from the town for my time and materials without legal expenses?


I would include the cost of legal expenses in the lawsuit lol

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 03:25 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.
sooooo rebar wasnt a good idea? lol sorry man that sucks. who was giving you the attitude? the town?
haha, I should not laugh--as I planned all the rebar install, I thought to myself, boy, I hope I don't have to take this apart-LOL. I will assume responsibility---I should have questioned the town.

I was involved in this one from the start, I created the drawings with the propane co.--I took them to the town myself with the permit fees and documentation.

I went to see the woman in charge at the town twice--each time I left all was wonderful. My electrician went in there one day and EVERYTHING changed. He's a good guy that I have worked with for years. That's where I failed---I should of went immediately back to the town and asked why the change? I even considered doing that before I did the concrete. That's what burns my ***.

DAMMMMMITTT.




fuccckkk thattttt

i would flip it on them
My discussion this am were flipping the entire thing on the town and propane company for not knowing how to direct a client who is giving them more than ample opportunity to tell him if we have every base covered and are in order for each step as it came. He was a good guy-who got the inspector there today and is the reason they are coming tomorrow @ noon.

He said I'm calling the town right now-they can't be giving erroneous info to residents and screwing up the process like this...were going to use you as an example to bring this to the inspectors attention and have that woman spoken to. I was like Dude easy---I will need her for future building permits...I don't want to ruffle feathers. He's like NO-I'm calling.

So like usual, My name is the one everyone get's to know. Is there anything I can do that just proceeds smoothly from start to finish?

lttaylor56
11-18-2011, 03:31 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.
sooooo rebar wasnt a good idea? lol sorry man that sucks. who was giving you the attitude? the town?
haha, I should not laugh--as I planned all the rebar install, I thought to myself, boy, I hope I don't have to take this apart-LOL. I will assume responsibility---I should have questioned the town.

I was involved in this one from the start, I created the drawings with the propane co.--I took them to the town myself with the permit fees and documentation.

I went to see the woman in charge at the town twice--each time I left all was wonderful. My electrician went in there one day and EVERYTHING changed. He's a good guy that I have worked with for years. That's where I failed---I should of went immediately back to the town and asked why the change? I even considered doing that before I did the concrete. That's what burns my ***.

DAMMMMMITTT.




fuccckkk thattttt

i would flip it on them
My discussion this am were flipping the entire thing on the town and propane company for not knowing how to direct a client who is giving them more than ample opportunity to tell him if we have every base covered and are in order for each step as it came. He was a good guy-who got the inspector there today and is the reason they are coming tomorrow @ noon.

He said I'm calling the town right now-they can't be giving erroneous info to residents and screwing up the process like this...were going to use you as an example to bring this to the inspectors attention and have that woman spoken to. I was like Dude easy---I will need her for future building permits...I don't want to ruffle feathers. He's like NO-I'm calling.

So like usual, My name is the one everyone get's to know. Is there anything I can do that just proceeds smoothly from start to finish?
Screw it! I going to get 10 bags of sand for the trench. I need 6" below the pipe and 6" above. The clean soil with no rocks for the final top 12". My boy's are getting to my house tmrw @9am....we'll dig the trench and be ready by 12pm for the propane guys.

Let's get a win Sunday. Go Blue.

byron
11-18-2011, 05:10 PM
Your opinions?

County Inspector came by and apologized profusely to my wife for me having to sure up the generator with that heavy duty concrete job I did 2 weeks ago. He said that code completely does not require a concrete pad under a generator. Tell that to the town clerk?

Inspector said that it really sucks for us, because now I cannot have a barbeque on the deck which is located about 10 ft above and 5 feet behind the generator location. To add insult to injury, he said that my original selected location for the generator would have been fine.

At this point all the electric is run to the current location. I spent 12-15 hours on the concrete process.

Town is apologizing, county is apologizing, Propane company just called me and told me that they are making an exception and will have their people there by noon tomorrow(they don't work Saturday's).

BUT I have to do more work. I must have a 4 foot long 24" deep trench dug from the point where the propane supply currently is to the generator by 12 pm Saturday afternoon.

Do I say screw all the work I have done up to this point and relocate the monster gen. to my original intended location. A a later time Jack hammer the hell out of the concrete and dispose of in woods....and disconnect current electric. If I take that route, electric will have to be rewired from current spot to a different location.

I am just freaked out, not sure which direction to go now.
sooooo rebar wasnt a good idea? lol sorry man that sucks. who was giving you the attitude? the town?
haha, I should not laugh--as I planned all the rebar install, I thought to myself, boy, I hope I don't have to take this apart-LOL. I will assume responsibility---I should have questioned the town.

I was involved in this one from the start, I created the drawings with the propane co.--I took them to the town myself with the permit fees and documentation.

I went to see the woman in charge at the town twice--each time I left all was wonderful. My electrician went in there one day and EVERYTHING changed. He's a good guy that I have worked with for years. That's where I failed---I should of went immediately back to the town and asked why the change? I even considered doing that before I did the concrete. That's what burns my ***.

DAMMMMMITTT.




fuccckkk thattttt

i would flip it on them
My discussion this am were flipping the entire thing on the town and propane company for not knowing how to direct a client who is giving them more than ample opportunity to tell him if we have every base covered and are in order for each step as it came. He was a good guy-who got the inspector there today and is the reason they are coming tomorrow @ noon.

He said I'm calling the town right now-they can't be giving erroneous info to residents and screwing up the process like this...were going to use you as an example to bring this to the inspectors attention and have that woman spoken to. I was like Dude easy---I will need her for future building permits...I don't want to ruffle feathers. He's like NO-I'm calling.

So like usual, My name is the one everyone get's to know. Is there anything I can do that just proceeds smoothly from start to finish?
Screw it! I going to get 10 bags of sand for the trench. I need 6" below the pipe and 6" above. The clean soil with no rocks for the final top 12". My boy's are getting to my house tmrw @9am....we'll dig the trench and be ready by 12pm for the propane guys.

Let's get a win Sunday. Go Blue.
jeez LT talk about a ****ing mess...sorry man....

byron
11-18-2011, 05:12 PM
quite in here.....stay off my ****ing lawn!!!</P>


</P>


;)</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-19-2011, 06:17 PM
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lawl
11-19-2011, 07:26 PM
Damn I'd want gloves if his hands werent so ****ing big.

byron
11-19-2011, 07:43 PM
Damn I'd want gloves if his hands werent so ****ing big. use them for a hat

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11-20-2011, 11:07 AM
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MattMeyerBud
11-20-2011, 12:10 PM
Damn I'd want gloves if his hands werent so ****ing big.

lol what?

they are like memoribilia

why would u wear them

MattMeyerBud
11-20-2011, 01:25 PM
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#crow

byron
11-20-2011, 05:13 PM
TOUCHDOWNNNN BENSONNNNN

#crow
</P>


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/308963_294425913913457_100000381516889_980134_1146 744852_n.jpg</P>


I smell a Meyer let me at him!!</P>

Morehead State
11-20-2011, 08:19 PM
THAT....was a great race! Great run bu Tony Stewart.

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 08:31 AM
I usually never have this kind of attitude....but...</P>


we are ****ed.
Our schedule doesn't favor us at all, and not only do we have to basically win out the season to distance us from Dallas, but we basically have to sweep them to win the division and if not, maybe get wild card. These things honestly seem impossible to accomplish. Extremely frustrating for a team who is 6-4. Losing to SF is one thing, but an injuredPhilly, at home....with virtually no pass on Vince Young, who i consider a terrible QB. We made him look one of hte most clutch QBs in the league.</P>


The next part of my rant is how terrible our run game is. We don't even HAVE a run game anymore. having a RB in the backfield has become a wasted play.
Either have Scott as our #1 back, or....the next part of my rant:

We cannot win anything without the ball in Eli Manning's hands. Eli has only a few mistakes last night, and we basically had to rely on a series of 3 plays, and a HUGE play from Cruz in order to put ourselves in position to win. I'm not going to put the fumble on anyone, it was an awesome defensive play, unfortunately for us, but.....I feel like Eli isn't getting help anymore. This team is so cold, it's hard to watch. It's honestly looked like preseason games. ugh</P>

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 08:35 AM
We honestly have to beat New Orleans, Green Bay, The Jets, and Dallas twice.......jesus christ...

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 08:38 AM
We honestly have to beat New Orleans, Green Bay, The Jets, and Dallas twice.......jesus christ...

na we're not going to need 11 wins. We're going to need 10. Possibly 9 if we can sweep Dallas and Wash

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 08:39 AM
TOUCHDOWNNNN BENSONNNNN

#crow
</p>


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/308963_294425913913457_100000381516889_980134_1146 744852_n.jpg</p>


I smell a Meyer let me at him!!</p>

don't make me vick your cute dog lol j/p

Morehead State
11-21-2011, 08:42 AM
We honestly have to beat New Orleans, Green Bay, The Jets, and Dallas twice.......jesus christ...

na we're not going to need 11 wins. We're going to need 10. Possibly 9 if we can sweep Dallas and Wash
</P>


We have to sweep Dallas. If we do that and beat the Skins and Jets, we will win the division. Problem is we probably need to win one of the next two game just to keep from being demoralized.</P>


In other words, we need to beat NO next week. If we drop to 6-6 in the next two weeks, I'm not sure we can stay in it.</P>


What a horrible loss yesterday. We let yet another backup QB beat us.</P>

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 09:11 AM
We honestly have to beat New Orleans, Green Bay, The Jets, and Dallas twice.......jesus christ...

na we're not going to need 11 wins. We're going to need 10. Possibly 9 if we can sweep Dallas and Wash
</P>


We have to sweep Dallas. If we do that and beat the Skins and Jets, we will win the division. Problem is we probably need to win one of the next two game just to keep from being demoralized.</P>


In other words, we need to beat NO next week. If we drop to 6-6 in the next two weeks, I'm not sure we can stay in it.</P>


What a horrible loss yesterday. We let yet another backup QB beat us.</P>


</P>


Yes, we HAVE to sweep dallas, if not, we have no shot at seeing the playoffs. Some other team is going to have a better record, probably like Detroit, or Chicago or something, and we'll be the odd man out again.

And yea, youre are right. We need the new orleans win or else we have no momentum, and no confidence going into the hardest schedule in the league (my opinion...idk what other teams have)</P>

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 09:45 AM
add vince young to the ****ty qbs who have beat this team.....disgraceful

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 09:52 AM
We honestly have to beat New Orleans, Green Bay, The Jets, and Dallas twice.......jesus christ...

na we're not going to need 11 wins. We're going to need 10. Possibly 9 if we can sweep Dallas and Wash
</p>


We have to sweep Dallas. If we do that and beat the Skins and Jets, we will win the division. Problem is we probably need to win one of the next two game just to keep from being demoralized.</p>


In other words, we need to beat NO next week. If we drop to 6-6 in the next two weeks, I'm not sure we can stay in it.</p>


What a horrible loss yesterday. We let yet another backup QB beat us.</p>


</p>


Yes, we HAVE to sweep dallas, if not, we have no shot at seeing the playoffs. Some other team is going to have a better record, probably like Detroit, or Chicago or something, and we'll be the odd man out again.

And yea, youre are right. We need the new orleans win or else we have no momentum, and no confidence going into the hardest schedule in the league (my opinion...idk what other teams have)</p>

well after the NO game the hardest schedule in the league arguement is kind of moot because most of the schedule is done. The "BRUTAL" schedule was everybody seeing PAts - Saints - Packers - Jets.

Well we beat the Pats and the Jets aren't all that at all this year. 10 wins will win the division and I thin k10 wins WILL grab the last wildcard spot with Atlantas schedule for rest of the season going the way it is and Cutler maybe being down for the year

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 09:58 AM
playoffs?!?...........plaaayoffs?!

how can any of you have faith in this team?

Morehead State
11-21-2011, 10:15 AM
playoffs?!?...........plaaayoffs?!

how can any of you have faith in this team?
</P>


Faith has nothing to do with it.</P>


We are however going to root hard.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 10:29 AM
playoffs?!?...........plaaayoffs?!

how can any of you have faith in this team?


A) Bet u said the same thing in 07. Its all about getting TO The playoffs. Playoffs is a second season, anything can happen

B) we're not talking about this because of faith, we're talking baout this because its a numbers game and its still realistic

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 10:31 AM
add vince young to the ****ty qbs who have beat this team.....disgraceful
</P>


you realize we've never beat Vince Young, right? He's beaten us 3 times.</P>

ny06
11-21-2011, 10:32 AM
Can someone please tell Fewell to stop with the 3 man rush, and drop back 8. </P>


It's the NFL, guys will get open if you give them time. </P>

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 10:32 AM
This took a performance of 99% of the new york giants team and coaches
to drop this game last night. That 1% goes to my personal MVP
WEATHERFORD. What a great *** job kicking last night.

Its pathetic that the biggest bright spot we had was our punter

-WRs
DROPPED BALL. How many balls were there? 5 drops on like 4 difference
series? In a day where the offense couldn't get it together these
proved to be awful

-ELI INT - No debate who it was on... HAKEEM
NICKS! Just kidding. Completely on Eli. Even though it shouldn't of
mattered because we won the the turnover game it still killed that drive

-JACOBS
can't run all night, but most specifically that 3rd and 1 was brutal.
I've stuck up for him and gav ehim every chance in the book but after
last night I have to stop. The fact that Ware goes down and Scott has 3
touches is brutal. Thats on the coaching staff.

-Offensive line
needs to be blown up. Everybody cried because we got rid of OHara and
Seuburt because they weren't healthy enough for this year. The biggest
two problems the past few weeks have been McKenzie and Snee so i'm not
sure what the argument is. They can't run block, they can't pass
block. If I had one position group to blame for last night and this
season its on them.

-Defensive Line, did u guys play last night?
Where are the Osi supporters? Looks like the Eagles got somebody that
can handle a speed rush. When we come across a tackle that can do that
Osi becomes invisible. The fact that he wasn't even on the field at the
end of the game when Philly was in run mode confirms his one trick pony
status. Thats just from an argument i've had one here, not to single Osi
out because the whole DLine played like *** vs the pass. They actually
did a decent job vs the run.

-Linebackers - actually a decent day out of them. Herlich and Kiwi played good games.

-Fewell
i've stood up for him but his zone play KILLED us last night. Who
didn't see that 3rd down pass going to the flat? Worst part is that we
weren't pressed on DJax.... brutal

-Gilbride - hard to knock him
because for the first half the players were there to be made and they
just weren't there. But his inability to leave the run game alone down
the stretch after a season of it not working was insane. Keeping a
defense honest with the run doesn't mean you have to start every drive
with a run or even first two downs of a drive with a run - especially
with an ineffective RB.

-Coughlin - last night may of been the
Spags bowl. Last night may of saved Reid's job and put Coughlin in
jeopardy. I do like Coughlin himself, but the coordinators he brings and
his concept of never putting young talent in is baffling and ultimately
the end of him. Theres alot of talk of Spags being canned in St.L and
you can bet your *** that Philly is foaming at the mouth to get him
back. Im not sure we win Spags over if it comes down to being a DC vs
us or Philly, but if its DC at Philly or HC in NY - i think we're good.
It will take Coughlin a deep run in the playoffs to keep his job here.
If it doesn't take that, then management loses its luster as being
great talent evaluators if they can't tell when its time for a coach to
go

And I hope theres no defensive defenders today. Nobody saying
the defense played good or whatever. Keep in mind a second string team
beat us last night, we got lucky that Vince threw picks in the endzone,
and that DJax is such a scumbag that he got a 50 yarder called back.

That
may be the biggest thing that disappointed me last night - no
retaliation from the Giants Defense for DJax flipping the ball at Fewell
and taunting the sidelines. Take the 15 and blindside that ***. Cheap?
Yea. But sometimes plays like that are called for.

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:32 AM
playoffs?!?...........plaaayoffs?!

how can any of you have faith in this team?


A) Bet u said the same thing in 07. Its all about getting TO The playoffs. Playoffs is a second season, anything can happen

B) we're not talking about this because of faith, we're talking baout this because its a numbers game and its still realistic


no i didnt because that team could compete. this team is the most inconsistent giant team iv ever seen

its realistic to think that eli and him alone can lead us to a superbowl? i think thats silly.

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:34 AM
add vince young to the ****ty qbs who have beat this team.....disgraceful
</p>


you realize we've never beat Vince Young, right? He's beaten us 3 times.</p>you realize hes a back up qb, right? and never played a snap with the eagles starters right?

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 10:35 AM
Jacobs is terrible. Then he says "The best thing this crowd does it boo." I am done with this guy.

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 10:37 AM
Can someone please tell Fewell to stop with the 3 man rush, and drop back 8. </p>


It's the NFL, guys will get open if you give them time. </p>
Tuck and Osi may as well of been on vacation in Tahiti.

I just don't understand this team at all. ****!

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 10:37 AM
playoffs?!?...........plaaayoffs?!

how can any of you have faith in this team?


A) Bet u said the same thing in 07. Its all about getting TO The playoffs. Playoffs is a second season, anything can happen

B) we're not talking about this because of faith, we're talking baout this because its a numbers game and its still realistic


no i didnt because that team could compete. this team is the most inconsistent giant team iv ever seen

its realistic to think that eli and him alone can lead us to a superbowl? i think thats silly.


lol i highly doubt you said that after the Viking game in 07, which is where we are this season

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:37 AM
Jacobs is terrible. Then he says "The best thing this crowd does it boo." I am done with this guy.
yea me too

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 10:38 AM
And why the **** do we keep running the ball when the **** isn't working?

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 10:40 AM
add vince young to the ****ty qbs who have beat this team.....disgraceful
</P>


you realize we've never beat Vince Young, right? He's beaten us 3 times.</P>


you realize hes a back up qb, right? and never played a snap with the eagles starters right?
</P>


I dont see what that has to do with our entire team sucking!
</P>

ny06
11-21-2011, 10:41 AM
Can someone please tell Fewell to stop with the 3 man rush, and drop back 8. </P>


It's the NFL, guys will get open if you give them time. </P>



Tuck and Osi may as well of been on vacation in Tahiti.

I just don't understand this team at all. ****!
</P>


I'll give Osi a pass, he has always had problems against Peters. Who is arguably a top 5 tackle in this league. </P>


But I can't defend Tuck, he got some pressure, but he gets paid to sack the qb, and be stout against the run. </P>

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:42 AM
add vince young to the ****ty qbs who have beat this team.....disgraceful
</p>


you realize we've never beat Vince Young, right? He's beaten us 3 times.</p>


you realize hes a back up qb, right? and never played a snap with the eagles starters right?
</p>


I dont see what that has to do with our entire team sucking!
</p>never said they did. but the trend continues

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 10:42 AM
Can someone please tell Fewell to stop with the 3 man rush, and drop back 8. </P>


It's the NFL, guys will get open if you give them time. </P>



Tuck and Osi may as well of been on vacation in Tahiti.

I just don't understand this team at all. ****!
</P>


I'll give Osi a pass, he has always had problems against Peters. Who is arguably a top 5 tackle in this league. </P>


But I can't defend Tuck, he got some pressure, but he gets paid to sack the qb, and be stout against the run. </P>


</P>


Tuck has been terrible this year...
Blame in on injury...but an All-Pro DE should be wrecking **** even on bad legs.</P>

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:43 AM
Can someone please tell Fewell to stop with the 3 man rush, and drop back 8. </p>


It's the NFL, guys will get open if you give them time. </p>



Tuck and Osi may as well of been on vacation in Tahiti.

I just don't understand this team at all. ****!
</p>


I'll give Osi a pass, he has always had problems against Peters. Who is arguably a top 5 tackle in this league. </p>


But I can't defend Tuck, he got some pressure, but he gets paid to sack the qb, and be stout against the run. </p>tuck looked real slow on a few plays.

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 10:44 AM
And why the **** do we keep running the ball when the **** isn't working?
</P>


I feel like it's mostly the o-line.
Not that any of our RBs have been playmakers or anything...but our O-line only had a handful of plays last night where I was like "oh that worked well"....
every other time it was "oh christ, what the hell are they doing!!??"</P>

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:48 AM
why didnt we see more of scott? guy rushes for 8 yards, catches one for 9 and hes done for the night. ughh the playcalling on both sides is horrible.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 10:48 AM
And why the **** do we keep running the ball when the **** isn't working?


i just said this in another thread

We HAVE to run a little to keep a defense honest

but it seems like we were running it still trying to get the running game going

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 10:49 AM
I love how you are so positive and try to keep everyone up after these tough losses. You're awesome...

That being said,

No way we beat the Saints or Packers. So then we are riding a 4 game losing streak and no confidence going to Dallas. Then we play Wash at home, Jets and Dallas again.

Just doesn't look good...I'm kind of in the same mood Pizz is today. I mean if VY can do this **** to us with scrub WR's and no practice all year imagine what Brees, Rodgers and Romo will do.

We might make Rex and Mark look like Peyton in his prime.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 10:49 AM
Can someone please tell Fewell to stop with the 3 man rush, and drop back 8. </p>


It's the NFL, guys will get open if you give them time. </p>



Tuck and Osi may as well of been on vacation in Tahiti.

I just don't understand this team at all. ****!
</p>


I'll give Osi a pass, he has always had problems against Peters. Who is arguably a top 5 tackle in this league. </p>


But I can't defend Tuck, he got some pressure, but he gets paid to sack the qb, and be stout against the run. </p>

he was a big part of holding McCoy to 45 yards for 98% of the game. He probably got the most constant pressure that made Young move around the pocket...

I just can't imagine giving Osi a pass for his performance last night

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 10:50 AM
Can someone please tell Fewell to stop with the 3 man rush, and drop back 8. </p>


It's the NFL, guys will get open if you give them time. </p>



Tuck and Osi may as well of been on vacation in Tahiti.

I just don't understand this team at all. ****!
</p>


I'll give Osi a pass, he has always had problems against Peters. Who is arguably a top 5 tackle in this league. </p>


But I can't defend Tuck, he got some pressure, but he gets paid to sack the qb, and be stout against the run. </p>tuck looked real slow on a few plays.


saw him on the ground after a few plays, he needed help to get off the ground i noticed

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 10:51 AM
And why the **** do we keep running the ball when the **** isn't working?


i just said this in another thread

We HAVE to run a little to keep a defense honest

but it seems like we were running it still trying to get the running game going

Run on 1st down - 1-2 yards
Run on 2nd down - 1-2 yards
3rd down pass

How many times did we do that in the 2nd half? It's ****ing garbage.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 10:52 AM
I love how you are so positive and try to keep everyone up after these tough losses. You're awesome...

That being said,

No way we beat the Saints or Packers. So then we are riding a 4 game losing streak and no confidence going to Dallas. Then we play Wash at home, Jets and Dallas again.

Just doesn't look good...I'm kind of in the same mood Pizz is today. I mean if VY can do this **** to us with scrub WR's and no practice all year imagine what Brees, Rodgers and Romo will do.

We might make Rex and Mark look like Peyton in his prime.


im not saying its going to be easy or were favorites, but the saints are very beatable. They aren't the same Saints.

We also were able to shut down brady and hopfully this sparks our DLine to never get abused like that again. They don't have the mobile QBs that we're game planning for. I think we can take NO

ny06
11-21-2011, 10:53 AM
Can someone please tell Fewell to stop with the 3 man rush, and drop back 8. </P>


It's the NFL, guys will get open if you give them time. </P>



Tuck and Osi may as well of been on vacation in Tahiti.

I just don't understand this team at all. ****!
</P>


I'll give Osi a pass, he has always had problems against Peters. Who is arguably a top 5 tackle in this league. </P>


But I can't defend Tuck, he got some pressure, but he gets paid to sack the qb, and be stout against the run. </P>




he was a big part of holding McCoy to 45 yards for 98% of the game. He probably got the most constant pressure that made Young move around the pocket...

I just can't imagine giving Osi a pass for his performance last night
</P>


He may have been a part of slowing down McCoy, but give credit to the whole defense for that. The gameplan all week was to stop McCoy. </P>


Osi get's a pass because he played against a great tackle, don't get me wrong. He did not have a good game. But he played against Peters. I don't think Osi ever played well against him. </P>

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 10:55 AM
****ing Ballard dropping wide open passes. Game would have been alot different had he caught those. Manningham, was he even playing?

I went from jumping up and down and screaming after that Cruz play to being devastated with a smashed remote in a 1,000 pieces and wanting to cry like a baby. lol

This team takes you from the highest highs to the lowest lows.

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:56 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-giants-rb-brandon-jacobs-grounded-tom-coughlin-rips-pathetic-rushing-attack-article-1.980601

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:57 AM
an offensive line coach out shined fewell. lmao

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 10:58 AM
And to ****ing top in all of ****ing Steve Smith catches a TD. lol

Our LB's got abused last night.

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 10:59 AM
And to ****ing top in all of ****ing Steve Smith catches a TD. lol

Our LB's got abused last night.
i thought they played great against the run. boley hertz and kiwi should be our starters.

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 11:00 AM
****ing Ballard dropping wide open passes. Game would have been alot different had he caught those. Manningham, was he even playing?

I went from jumping up and down and screaming after that Cruz play to being devastated with a smashed remote in a 1,000 pieces and wanting to cry like a baby. lol

This team takes you from the highest highs to the lowest lows.
</P>


I think I did cry....but it might have been from excessive yawning. I can't confirm this. lol</P>

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:00 AM
Greg Halman, outfielder for the Seattle Mariners, was
stabbed to death early Monday morning in the Netherlands ... and <font color="#0000FF">his own
brother</font> has been arrested as a suspect.

WOW! ****ing people man...

Morehead State
11-21-2011, 11:04 AM
****ing Ballard dropping wide open passes. Game would have been alot different had he caught those. Manningham, was he even playing?

I went from jumping up and down and screaming after that Cruz play to being devastated with a smashed remote in a 1,000 pieces and wanting to cry like a baby. lol

This team takes you from the highest highs to the lowest lows.
</P>


Most team do that to their fans Lando. Look at the Jets or even Philly. The league is built for this. Our team could very well come out next week and win.</P>


We are all pissed because we definately have some huge flaws. I mean, what happened to our pass rush? Bottom line is when we don't rush the QB, we lose. That is supposed to be our strength.</P>


The secondary was fine I thought and the young LB's did OK. It all hinges on our ability to get to the QB. No one can cover for 5 seconds and that was what VY got consistently last night.</P>


And the O line!! What a horrible performance. As I have said for the last 2 years, this team needs a new coaching staff. They wanted it more than us and this was a near MUST WIN for us.</P>


TC and his staff should be looking in the mirror as well as the players.</P>

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 11:05 AM
And to ****ing top in all of ****ing Steve Smith catches a TD. lol

Our LB's got abused last night.
i thought they played great against the run. boley hertz and kiwi should be our starters.
</P>


I thought Herzlich had a pretty good showing. rookie mistakes, but he is a great tackler. lost art.
He should probably get the nod over Jones....but im really not gonna say that after just 1 start.</P>

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:06 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 11:08 AM
****ing Ballard dropping wide open passes. Game would have been alot different had he caught those. Manningham, was he even playing?

I went from jumping up and down and screaming after that Cruz play to being devastated with a smashed remote in a 1,000 pieces and wanting to cry like a baby. lol

This team takes you from the highest highs to the lowest lows.
</P>


Most team do that to their fans Lando. Look at the Jets or even Philly. The league is built for this. Our team could very well come out next week and win.</P>


We are all pissed because we definately have some huge flaws. I mean, what happened to our pass rush? Bottom line is when we don't rush the QB, we lose. That is supposed to be our strength.</P>


The secondary was fine I thought and the young LB's did OK. It all hinges on our ability to get to the QB. No one can cover for 5 seconds and that was what VY got consistently last night.</P>


And the O line!! What a horrible performance. As I have said for the last 2 years, this team needs a new coaching staff. They wanted it more than us and this was a near MUST WIN for us.</P>


TC and his staff should be looking in the mirror as well as the players.</P>


</P>


actually...I guess the secondary was the bright spot last night. Even Ross didn't suck. lol
and yup...lack of pass rush. kills us.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:08 AM
And why the **** do we keep running the ball when the **** isn't working?


i just said this in another thread

We HAVE to run a little to keep a defense honest

but it seems like we were running it still trying to get the running game going

Run on 1st down - 1-2 yards
Run on 2nd down - 1-2 yards
3rd down pass

How many times did we do that in the 2nd half? It's ****ing garbage.




well thats what im saiyng. We didn't run the ball to keep em honest, it was like we were still trying to get the running game going. Theres a difference

Heres the first half breakdown:

7 possessions total, but im only going to count the first 6 because the last possesion was for the last minutes 30, so we were obviously in hurry up O

We had 9 plays of first down 5 of which that were runs

9 plays of second down 4 of which were runs

3 times we had a first down and ran it, we followed with a run on 2nd down

NOT as bad in the first half.

-----


Second half, again not counting the last drive of the game when we were in throwing mode

8 first downs 4 were runs

8 second downs 4 were funs

2 times did we run on first then second down

-------

If this tells you anything, its that the need to maintain balance is being mistaken for keeping defenses more honest. If we threw more, we would be much more productive over all as an offense. I think our best route to move the ball is through the air with Eli to our WRs and committing more to the pass will lighten defenses vs the run.

ITs like Coughlin and Gilbride think the only way to keep a defense honest is to be completely balanced the whole game through

The most frustrating thing is the 3rd qtr drive at 5 minutes. When we started wtih the double run, it just made us as s feel so helpless. How could this be the same coaching staff that went for it on 4th and 3 on our own 35 last week?

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:09 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 11:09 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
</P>


yea no ****...how hard was that to watch? we really got picked apart in the 4th...terrible.</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:10 AM
****ing Ballard dropping wide open passes. Game would have been alot different had he caught those. Manningham, was he even playing?

I went from jumping up and down and screaming after that Cruz play to being devastated with a smashed remote in a 1,000 pieces and wanting to cry like a baby. lol

This team takes you from the highest highs to the lowest lows.


ha thats what being a Giants fan is all about.

The game plan was to stretch Manningham deep and have him our long ball threat but Eli couldn't even finish his drop backs without having to move around the pocket.

Yea man, awful game by BAllard. Hopfully we werne't playing with fools gold with him and he just had an off game

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:11 AM
an offensive line coach out shined fewell. lmao


every DC looks like a genious if they could get the pressure Philly was with 4 DL

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:11 AM
And to ****ing top in all of ****ing Steve Smith catches a TD. lol

Our LB's got abused last night.


ha i actually needed a WR in a league and picked him up. I knew Reid was going to try and get him one

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:12 AM
And to ****ing top in all of ****ing Steve Smith catches a TD. lol

Our LB's got abused last night.
i thought they played great against the run. boley hertz and kiwi should be our starters.


Kiwi on Smith was bad, but i don't evne think they played that bad against the pass all night. Herz is suppose to be completely brutal in the pass but he did even a decent job

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:13 AM
1 sack and 1 QB hit. lol

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:14 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!


god... was it just me or was everybody else screaming at hte TV: WATCH THE ****ING FLATS

How we ain't main pressing those small WRs on 3rd and 4 is crazy

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:15 AM
****ing Ballard dropping wide open passes. Game would have been alot different had he caught those. Manningham, was he even playing?

I went from jumping up and down and screaming after that Cruz play to being devastated with a smashed remote in a 1,000 pieces and wanting to cry like a baby. lol

This team takes you from the highest highs to the lowest lows.
</p>


Most team do that to their fans Lando. Look at the Jets or even Philly. The league is built for this. Our team could very well come out next week and win.</p>


We are all pissed because we definately have some huge flaws. I mean, what happened to our pass rush? Bottom line is when we don't rush the QB, we lose. That is supposed to be our strength.</p>


The secondary was fine I thought and the young LB's did OK. It all hinges on our ability to get to the QB. No one can cover for 5 seconds and that was what VY got consistently last night.</p>


And the O line!! What a horrible performance. As I have said for the last 2 years, this team needs a new coaching staff. They wanted it more than us and this was a near MUST WIN for us.</p>


TC and his staff should be looking in the mirror as well as the players.</p>


</p>


actually...I guess the secondary was the bright spot last night. Even Ross didn't suck. lol
and yup...lack of pass rush. kills us.</p>

secondary was a bright spot?

what game did uwatch

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:15 AM
an offensive line coach out shined fewell. lmao


every DC looks like a genious if they could get the pressure Philly was with 4 DL
and every dc should look like a genius going up against a backup qb with literally no time with the eagles 1st team. how long are you going to keep giving this guy excuses? EVERY game this defense fails to show up in key moments

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:16 AM
Tuck has been terrible this year...


Blame in on injury...but an All-Pro DE should be wrecking **** even on bad legs.</p>
Yeah, I thought we were letting him rest so he could be his awesome self.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:18 AM
an offensive line coach out shined fewell. lmao


every DC looks like a genious if they could get the pressure Philly was with 4 DL
and every dc should look like a genius going up against a backup qb with literally no time with the eagles 1st team. how long are you going to keep giving this guy excuses? EVERY game this defense fails to show up in key moments


if ur DLine can't win individual battles and apply no pressure it doens't matter.

Sometimes u just get outplayed

I'll give u Fewell for the zone ****, but DLine should be embarressed.

We blitzed and di what we could, Eagles OLine deserves a hat tipped towards them.

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:19 AM
I think I did cry....but it might have been from excessive yawning. I can't confirm this. lol
LMAO

I hope your dinner was delicious.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:19 AM
Tuck has been terrible this year...


Blame in on injury...but an All-Pro DE should be wrecking **** even on bad legs.</p>
Yeah, I thought we were letting him rest so he could be his awesome self.


they said his neck injury won't get better this year. He needs REAL significan rest for that to heal up

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:20 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 11:21 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
</p>


yea no ****...how hard was that to watch? we really got picked apart in the 4th...terrible.</p>I was at the game last nite and there were a few good things to take away from the game

-Herzlich and Prince played amazingly especially for this being Prince's 1st game in a little under a year
- Our 2ndary was excellent for almost all of the game
- The crowd was ROCKING, everyone was up and loud for the whole game
- I found my favorite section ever 314, we sat next to the 'First Down Guy' who has crazy antics for every Giants 1st down like tossing candy and footballs at people in the stands
- I looked into the future and saw a squad of 4 guys with hard hats n beads singing "Eagles Take It Up The Asss" to the theme of camptown races, it was phenonenonal!!!!!

And now the bad......
- Our O-Line went from bad at run blocking and pretty good at pass protection to just straight up BAD, eli was getting flushed out of the pocket waaay too often
- DJ Ware, cant we just suit him and put him behind a concession booth already!?!?!
- Our lack of pass rush with a touchable line that the eagles have is disgusting. We gotta get a pass rush going, plain n simple
- I dont know what it is, but we need to fix our O-Lines horrible run blocking, we cant open holes and sustain blocks, its like they just dont have the juice anymore


Thank goodness I dont have work today, so I can rest my voice. Cause as you guys who have attended a game with me know, if I still have a voice by the end of the game I didnt do my job as a fan, LOL

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:22 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao

It's not funny

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 11:24 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>I gotta admit there were waaaay too many people that were too quick to boo last night, it was pissing me off

WOW, Jacobs needs to toughen up emotionally. I feel like he dropped that quote while bursting out in tears. C'mon sen this is NY if you aint doin your job proper we're gonna bust ya balls and thats what the booing is, dont take it personal

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:25 AM
And why the **** do we keep running the ball when the **** isn't working?


i just said this in another thread

We HAVE to run a little to keep a defense honest

but it seems like we were running it still trying to get the running game going

Run on 1st down - 1-2 yards
Run on 2nd down - 1-2 yards
3rd down pass

How many times did we do that in the 2nd half? It's ****ing garbage.




well thats what im saiyng. We didn't run the ball to keep em honest, it was like we were still trying to get the running game going. Theres a difference

Heres the first half breakdown:

7 possessions total, but im only going to count the first 6 because the last possesion was for the last minutes 30, so we were obviously in hurry up O

We had 9 plays of first down 5 of which that were runs

9 plays of second down 4 of which were runs

3 times we had a first down and ran it, we followed with a run on 2nd down

NOT as bad in the first half.

-----


Second half, again not counting the last drive of the game when we were in throwing mode

8 first downs 4 were runs

8 second downs 4 were funs

2 times did we run on first then second down

-------

If this tells you anything, its that the need to maintain balance is being mistaken for keeping defenses more honest. If we threw more, we would be much more productive over all as an offense. I think our best route to move the ball is through the air with Eli to our WRs and committing more to the pass will lighten defenses vs the run.

ITs like Coughlin and Gilbride think the only way to keep a defense honest is to be completely balanced the whole game through

The most frustrating thing is the 3rd qtr drive at 5 minutes. When we started wtih the double run, it just made us as s feel so helpless. How could this be the same coaching staff that went for it on 4th and 3 on our own 35 last week?

They are stubborn to a fault. We need to make adjustments in game. I feel like we rarely do that. For years people dared Eli to beat them, he will now and we don't let him until the game is on the line. We should call plays like we do in the 4th quarter when we are down from the start of the game.

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:27 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!


god... was it just me or was everybody else screaming at hte TV: WATCH THE ****ING FLATS

How we ain't main pressing those small WRs on 3rd and 4 is crazy

Fewell at his best!!!

Only if Corey would have made that tackle on DeSean.

Oh and speaking of that worthless ****, can you believe he flipped to ball to Perry after that long pass. This ****ing guy is so ****y and such a piece of ****. I seriously hate him more than any player in the league by a long shot.

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:28 AM
DJ Ware was almost decapitated. lol

I honestly can't believe that after Jacobs getting stopped time and time and time again we didn't give Scott a chance. He had to be there thinking I can do that!

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:28 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>

Bradshaw makes a huge difference regardless of what the Ware and JAcobs **** blowers in this thread say.

And I DEFINITLY wouldn't call what Jacobs was doing as "hitting the holes"

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:29 AM
DJ Ware was almost decapitated. lol

I honestly can't believe that after Jacobs getting stopped time and time and time again we didn't give Scott a chance. He had to be there thinking I can do that!
yeaa i felt bad after that one. his head was drilled into the turf.

i was yelling put scott in all game, very frustrating

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:31 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>

Bradshaw makes a huge difference regardless of what the Ware and JAcobs **** blowers in this thread say.

And I DEFINITLY wouldn't call what Jacobs was doing as "hitting the holes"
more like the backs of our linemen, if he even made it out of the backfield.

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:32 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>I gotta admit there were waaaay too many people that were too quick to boo last night, it was pissing me off

WOW, Jacobs needs to toughen up emotionally. I feel like he dropped that quote while bursting out in tears. C'mon sen this is NY if you aint doin your job proper we're gonna bust ya balls and thats what the booing is, dont take it personal

He will be gone next year and not soon enough for me. Let him go suck and underachieve for someone else. I am done making excuses for this guy and sticking up for him. He is not the same guy he was and it could be because of his age or the fact he took a pay cut or what, I don't know.

I'm glad you at least had fun at the game. Sorry we couldn't pull it. I think that is the 5th or 6th game in a row the Eagles have won at NY. Embarrassing!

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:33 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>

<u>Bradshaw makes a huge difference</u> regardless of what the Ware and JAcobs **** blowers in this thread say.

And I DEFINITLY wouldn't call what Jacobs was doing as "hitting the holes"
agreed, but i still think we need another back

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:34 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
</p>


yea no ****...how hard was that to watch? we really got picked apart in the 4th...terrible.</p>I was at the game last nite and there were a few good things to take away from the game

-Herzlich and Prince played amazingly especially for this being Prince's 1st game in a little under a year
- Our 2ndary was excellent for almost all of the game
- The crowd was ROCKING, everyone was up and loud for the whole game
- I found my favorite section ever 314, we sat next to the 'First Down Guy' who has crazy antics for every Giants 1st down like tossing candy and footballs at people in the stands
- I looked into the future and saw a squad of 4 guys with hard hats n beads singing "Eagles Take It Up The Asss" to the theme of camptown races, it was phenonenonal!!!!!

And now the bad......
- Our O-Line went from bad at run blocking and pretty good at pass protection to just straight up BAD, eli was getting flushed out of the pocket waaay too often
- DJ Ware, cant we just suit him and put him behind a concession booth already!?!?!
- Our lack of pass rush with a touchable line that the eagles have is disgusting. We gotta get a pass rush going, plain n simple
- I dont know what it is, but we need to fix our O-Lines horrible run blocking, we cant open holes and sustain blocks, its like they just dont have the juice anymore


Thank goodness I dont have work today, so I can rest my voice. Cause as you guys who have attended a game with me know, if I still have a voice by the end of the game I didnt do my job as a fan, LOL


holy ****!!! FIRST DOWN GUY??!

Is he the dude that stands up every first down and goes: "THATS ANOTHER GIANTS...."

and then the crowd goes FIRST DOWN?!

PLEASE TELL ME YES!!! Lol i loved that guy!

OLine has been making Eli run all year... they've completely sucked in all aspects all year

Ware played pretty good last night man...

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:35 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>I gotta admit there were waaaay too many people that were too quick to boo last night, it was pissing me off

WOW, Jacobs needs to toughen up emotionally. I feel like he dropped that quote while bursting out in tears. C'mon sen this is NY if you aint doin your job proper we're gonna bust ya balls and thats what the booing is, dont take it personal


i think it was general frustration with the running game and the fact that we're still trying to be 50/50

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:36 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao

It's not funny
im laughing because im going insane. iv been *****ing about 3 and outs all year!

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:37 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!


god... was it just me or was everybody else screaming at hte TV: WATCH THE ****ING FLATS

How we ain't main pressing those small WRs on 3rd and 4 is crazy

Fewell at his best!!!

Only if Corey would have made that tackle on DeSean.

Oh and speaking of that worthless ****, can you believe he flipped to ball to Perry after that long pass. This ****ing guy is so ****y and such a piece of ****. I seriously hate him more than any player in the league by a long shot.


They take a legal but still cheap shot on Eli and disrespect your DC and theres no retaliation?

Im sorry, but we have no animals on defense. Can u imagine if we had Ray Lewis, Harrison, Takeo SPikes, or someone like that and DJax flipped the ball in Fewells face?


Jesus god

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:38 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>

Bradshaw makes a huge difference regardless of what the Ware and JAcobs **** blowers in this thread say.

And I DEFINITLY wouldn't call what Jacobs was doing as "hitting the holes"
more like the backs of our linemen, if he even made it out of the backfield.

When Jacobs used to be good he would get the ball and run to his hole. If it wasn't there he would just plow through everyone and keep his legs churning, at least get a few yards or burst through. Now he does this little gay studder step thing, kills all his momentum and then tries to turn it back on and get through another whole. It's like he thinks he is Bradshaw or something. His whole style has changed. One run he hit the whole with power and it was our game long of 9 yards. WOOOOOOOO

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:39 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>

<u>Bradshaw makes a huge difference</u> regardless of what the Ware and JAcobs **** blowers in this thread say.

And I DEFINITLY wouldn't call what Jacobs was doing as "hitting the holes"
agreed, but i still think we need another back


I think Jacobs is servicable as a #2, especially with somebody like a Bradshaw

We have to use him for what hes good for. Hes not a feature guy, bottom line.

And we do have another back, we just don't like using him. I guess Coughlin is saving him for the Superbowl

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:40 AM
<div class="report">


The Bears confirmed Monday that Jay Cutler will need surgery on his fractured thumb.</p>
</div>

The Bears will not give a timetable, only saying
that they are hopeful Cutler can return before the end of the regular
season. We wouldn't bet on it. Initial reports had Cutler out 6-8 weeks,
making a Week 17 return a best-case scenario.

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 11:41 AM
DJ Ware was almost decapitated. lol

I honestly can't believe that after Jacobs getting stopped time and time and time again we didn't give Scott a chance. He had to be there thinking I can do that!
</P>


wow yea that blind sided hit on Ware was NASTY!!!
I dont like the inconsistently of the rules. Helmet to Helmet is legal if the ball carrier is turned away? Thats what Collinsworth said I think....so like, if youre facing him, you cant go helmet to helmet? i dont get it. lol</P>


we don't "miss bradshaw".....we miss an O-line...
Bradshaw was underwhelming before he got hurt. So there's no reason to believe he will be effective AFTER coming back from injury.

Ranked 31st in rushing offense. No big deal................</P>

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:41 AM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>

Bradshaw makes a huge difference regardless of what the Ware and JAcobs **** blowers in this thread say.

And I DEFINITLY wouldn't call what Jacobs was doing as "hitting the holes"
more like the backs of our linemen, if he even made it out of the backfield.

When Jacobs used to be good he would get the ball and run to his hole. If it wasn't there he would just plow through everyone and keep his legs churning, at least get a few yards or burst through. Now he does this little gay studder step thing, kills all his momentum and then tries to turn it back on and get through another whole. It's like he thinks he is Bradshaw or something. His whole style has changed. One run he hit the whole with power and it was our game long of 9 yards. WOOOOOOOO


one thing that hasn't changed is hes starting to run high again...

i expect the ball to spit out soon

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:42 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!


god... was it just me or was everybody else screaming at hte TV: WATCH THE ****ING FLATS

How we ain't main pressing those small WRs on 3rd and 4 is crazy

Fewell at his best!!!

Only if Corey would have made that tackle on DeSean.

Oh and speaking of that worthless ****, can you believe he flipped to ball to Perry after that long pass. This ****ing guy is so ****y and such a piece of ****. I seriously hate him more than any player in the league by a long shot.


They take a legal but still cheap shot on Eli and disrespect your DC and theres no retaliation?

Im sorry, but we have no animals on defense. Can u imagine if we had Ray Lewis, Harrison, Takeo SPikes, or someone like that and DJax flipped the ball in Fewells face?


Jesus god

Rolle has been that guy, but I think Coughlin told him to tone it down some.

Then again, everytime our team gets punked no one does anything. Pierce was always startin ****.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:42 AM
DJ Ware was almost decapitated. lol

I honestly can't believe that after Jacobs getting stopped time and time and time again we didn't give Scott a chance. He had to be there thinking I can do that!
</p>


wow yea that blind sided hit on Ware was NASTY!!!
I dont like the inconsistently of the rules. Helmet to Helmet is legal if the ball carrier is turned away? Thats what Collinsworth said I think....so like, if youre facing him, you cant go helmet to helmet? i dont get it. lol</p>


we don't "miss bradshaw".....we miss an O-line...
Bradshaw was underwhelming before he got hurt. So there's no reason to believe he will be effective AFTER coming back from injury.

Ranked 31st in rushing offense. No big deal................</p>

no the helmet to helmer is only on defenseless WRs and QBs...

you really are a moron when it comes to bradshaw....

He makes something out of nothing SO much for us and gives us legitamacy in the run game.

Very few backs do alot with no line.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:44 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!


god... was it just me or was everybody else screaming at hte TV: WATCH THE ****ING FLATS

How we ain't main pressing those small WRs on 3rd and 4 is crazy

Fewell at his best!!!

Only if Corey would have made that tackle on DeSean.

Oh and speaking of that worthless ****, can you believe he flipped to ball to Perry after that long pass. This ****ing guy is so ****y and such a piece of ****. I seriously hate him more than any player in the league by a long shot.


They take a legal but still cheap shot on Eli and disrespect your DC and theres no retaliation?

Im sorry, but we have no animals on defense. Can u imagine if we had Ray Lewis, Harrison, Takeo SPikes, or someone like that and DJax flipped the ball in Fewells face?


Jesus god

Rolle has been that guy, but I think Coughlin told him to tone it down some.

Then again, everytime our team gets punked no one does anything. Pierce was always startin ****.


honestly, its like the yankees. They never retaliate for real

The past decade they were the biggest ******* when it came to that. Now Burnett and Joba will throw and CC wil throw an off speed pitch at your back...

I miss Roger Clemons whippin a fastball at batters heads if u throw at one of our guys.

We need a Roger Clemons. HGH optional

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:44 AM
Joshua Cribbs' four receiving touchdowns are the most by any Browns wideout since 2007.

LMAO, I guess it could be worse...Talk about a pathetic stat. Plax had 3 in one game. lol

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:47 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!


god... was it just me or was everybody else screaming at hte TV: WATCH THE ****ING FLATS

How we ain't main pressing those small WRs on 3rd and 4 is crazy

Fewell at his best!!!

Only if Corey would have made that tackle on DeSean.

Oh and speaking of that worthless ****, can you believe he flipped to ball to Perry after that long pass. This ****ing guy is so ****y and such a piece of ****. I seriously hate him more than any player in the league by a long shot.


They take a legal but still cheap shot on Eli and disrespect your DC and theres no retaliation?

Im sorry, but we have no animals on defense. Can u imagine if we had Ray Lewis, Harrison, Takeo SPikes, or someone like that and DJax flipped the ball in Fewells face?


Jesus god

Rolle has been that guy, but I think Coughlin told him to tone it down some.

Then again, everytime our team gets punked no one does anything. Pierce was always startin ****.


honestly, its like the yankees. They never retaliate for real

The past decade they were the biggest ******* when it came to that. Now Burnett and Joba will throw and CC wil throw an off speed pitch at your back...

I miss Roger Clemons whippin a fastball at batters heads if u throw at one of our guys.

We need a Roger Clemons. HGH optional

It's like that thing with Belichek I posted a while back. Reportedly he would pay players to fight in practice and give props to players that would start fights in games or retaliate. I am not saying we need to be a dirty team but someone has to send a message.

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:48 AM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!


god... was it just me or was everybody else screaming at hte TV: WATCH THE ****ING FLATS

How we ain't main pressing those small WRs on 3rd and 4 is crazy

Fewell at his best!!!

Only if Corey would have made that tackle on DeSean.

Oh and speaking of that worthless ****, can you believe he flipped to ball to Perry after that long pass. This ****ing guy is so ****y and such a piece of ****. I seriously hate him more than any player in the league by a long shot.


They take a legal but still cheap shot on Eli and disrespect your DC and theres no retaliation?

Im sorry, but we have no animals on defense. Can u imagine if we had Ray Lewis, Harrison, Takeo SPikes, or someone like that and DJax flipped the ball in Fewells face?


Jesus god

Rolle has been that guy, but I think Coughlin told him to tone it down some.

Then again, everytime our team gets punked no one does anything. Pierce was always startin ****.
rolle slaps players hands or helmet after they gash us for big gains. hes NOT that guy.

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:50 AM
rolle slaps players hands or helmet after they gash us for big gains. hes NOT that guy.

That really bothers me!

We just need a new attitude. One thing about the Ravens, Jets, San Fran and Steelers for example. Their D is just ****ing mean.

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 11:52 AM
They take a legal but still cheap shot on Eli and disrespect your DC and theres no retaliation?

Im sorry, but we have no animals on defense. Can u imagine if we had Ray Lewis, Harrison, Takeo SPikes, or someone like that and DJax flipped the ball in Fewells face?


Jesus god
</P>


i wasnt really EXPECTING retaliation...but....i would have liked to see something like....well, remember that time when TO played for SF, scored in Dallas, and ran out to the 50 yard line on the Star to celebrate, and who was it...george teague? ran up and laid him out? lol
That's the kinda **** i wanna see....</P>

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:53 AM
rolle slaps players hands or helmet after they gash us for big gains. hes NOT that guy.

<u>That really bothers me! </u>

We just need a new attitude. One thing about the Ravens, Jets, San Fran and Steelers for example. Their D is just ****ing mean.
matt likes it. says it shows good sportsmanship.

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:53 AM
MJD went to Cleveland and celebrated a touchdown by mimicking the pregame chalk antics of the city's lost hero, LeBron James.

LMAO!!! I love MJD.

<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1321894521270_601">Ahh, but Cleveland fans got the
last laugh they so rarely enjoy. (Come to think of it, they so rarely
enjoy a laugh, let alone a last laugh.) A goal line stop in the final
seconds gave the Browns a 14-10 victory.</p>


Good work, Cleveland. Playing tough in the fourth quarter is about as un-LeBron as it gets.</p>

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 11:54 AM
They take a legal but still cheap shot on Eli and disrespect your DC and theres no retaliation?

Im sorry, but we have no animals on defense. Can u imagine if we had Ray Lewis, Harrison, Takeo SPikes, or someone like that and DJax flipped the ball in Fewells face?


Jesus god
</p>


i wasnt really EXPECTING retaliation...but....i would have liked to see something like....well, remember that time when TO played for SF, scored in Dallas, and ran out to the 50 yard line on the Star to celebrate, and who was it...george teague? ran up and laid him out? lol
That's the kinda **** i wanna see....</p>


exactly

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 11:55 AM
The Lions have announced that their December 4 game at New Orleans has been moved into prime time, making it the first time ever that the Lions have been on NBC’s Sunday Night Football (http://blogs.detroitlions.com/2011/11/21/lions-week-13-game-at-new-orleans-flexed-to-sunday-night-football/).

Between
the Lions’ Thanksgiving game against the Packers and the Saints game
the following week, this will be the first time the Lions have played
consecutive nationally televised games since 2000.

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 11:55 AM
rolle slaps players hands or helmet after they gash us for big gains. hes NOT that guy.

That really bothers me!

We just need a new attitude. One thing about the Ravens, Jets, San Fran and Steelers for example. Their D is just ****ing mean.
</P>


yea but dude....every time we have someone who is outspoken, or who does something "wrong" every ****ing person whines about it.
remember how angry dezz was for rolle talking ****?</P>


people are ******ed. you want to have your cake and eat it too....</P>

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 11:57 AM
and i hate when ppl say things like "we dont have a tradition of mean streaks, or dirty players, that's not the kind of team we are."</P>


**** that....i dont want the tradition of ****ing losing either.

getANGRY and get WINs or get LOST.</P>

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 11:58 AM
rolle slaps players hands or helmet after they gash us for big gains. hes NOT that guy.

That really bothers me!

We just need a new attitude. One thing about the Ravens, Jets, San Fran and Steelers for example. Their D is just ****ing mean.
</p>


yea but dude....every time we have someone who is outspoken, or who does something "wrong" every ****ing person whines about it.
remember how angry dezz was for rolle talking ****?</p>


people are ******ed. you want to have your cake and eat it too....</p>i was mad at rolle because after a loss he said they shouldnt be booed because they "were like soldiers returning home from war."
landos right, since ap left weve been soft.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 12:01 PM
rolle slaps players hands or helmet after they gash us for big gains. hes NOT that guy.

That really bothers me!

We just need a new attitude. One thing about the Ravens, Jets, San Fran and Steelers for example. Their D is just ****ing mean.
</p>


yea but dude....every time we have someone who is outspoken, or who does something "wrong" every ****ing person whines about it.
remember how angry dezz was for rolle talking ****?</p>


people are ******ed. you want to have your cake and eat it too....</p>



first off, why are u retaining anything Dezz says?

Second, theres a way to do things. I dont mind when Jacobs gets all heated and in players face, but he was close to getting flag in the first quarter yesterday. You have to know when to lay off or how to lay off.

Just getting personal fouls isn't what im saying. Giving personal fouls with some meaning is how u do it. Taking the 15 when DJax is clearly out of bounds but ripping his head off on a full spring while hes slowing is how its done.

Talking **** about your coahc to the public, isn't the way to open your mouth.

I don't really want my players talking to the media. I want them handling this **** on the field

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 12:01 PM
Copied from another thread....

Our Schedule
@Saints - L - No way we beat them at home
Packers - L - Sorry we get beaten down
@Cowboys - W - We always seem to win in Dallas
Redskins - W - We win a game!
@Jets - W - We win!
Cowboys - L - We lose a heart breaker at home....
9-7

Bears (Sans Jay Cutler now)
@Raiders - L - Cutler's loss now proves to be too much for bears
Cheifs - W - so what?
@Broncos - L - Tebow Time
Seahawks - W - ok?
@Packers - L - No way
@vikings - L - caps off a season for them
9-7

Lions
Packers - L - better luck next game
@Saints - L - Not beating them at the dome
Vikings - W - easy enough
Chargers - W - Rivers leads in INT's?
@Packers - L - No way!
9-7

Falcons
Vikings - W - Easy enough
@Texans - W - Leinart wont win
@Panthers - W - Cant trust Fig Newton
Jaguars - W - Super Easy
@Saints - L - No way
Bucs - W - Good enough
11-5

Cowboys
Dolphins - L - thats right! Red hot fins!
@Arizona - L - Dont be surprised!
Giants - L - we always win their
@Tampa - W - Win, win
Eagles - L - have figured out the east pretty much
@Giants - W - dang
8-8? Could be worse/better

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 12:08 PM
Copied from another thread....

Our Schedule
@Saints - L - No way we beat them at home
Packers - L - Sorry we get beaten down
@Cowboys - W - We always seem to win in Dallas
Redskins - W - We win a game!
@Jets - W - We win!
Cowboys - L - We lose a heart breaker at home....
9-7

Bears (Sans Jay Cutler now)
@Raiders - L - Cutler's loss now proves to be too much for bears
Cheifs - W - so what?
@Broncos - L - Tebow Time
Seahawks - W - ok?
@Packers - L - No way
@vikings - L - caps off a season for them
9-7

Lions
Packers - L - better luck next game
@Saints - L - Not beating them at the dome
Vikings - W - easy enough
Chargers - W - Rivers leads in INT's?
@Packers - L - No way!
9-7

Falcons
Vikings - W - Easy enough
@Texans - W - Leinart wont win
@Panthers - W - Cant trust Fig Newton
Jaguars - W - Super Easy
@Saints - L - No way
Bucs - W - Good enough
11-5

Cowboys
Dolphins - L - thats right! Red hot fins!
@Arizona - L - Dont be surprised!
Giants - L - we always win their
@Tampa - W - Win, win
Eagles - L - have figured out the east pretty much
@Giants - W - dang
8-8? Could be worse/better

Wildcard is between us, Atlanta, and Chicago

Division is between us and Dallas who we play twice...

again - throughout all of this our fate is in our own hands. Dallas isn't good enough to get 2 games up on us by the time we play them. We can close the year with 4 wins steam rolling into the playoffs and taking the division

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:10 PM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
</p>


yea no ****...how hard was that to watch? we really got picked apart in the 4th...terrible.</p>I was at the game last nite and there were a few good things to take away from the game

-Herzlich and Prince played amazingly especially for this being Prince's 1st game in a little under a year
- Our 2ndary was excellent for almost all of the game
- The crowd was ROCKING, everyone was up and loud for the whole game
- I found my favorite section ever 314, we sat next to the 'First Down Guy' who has crazy antics for every Giants 1st down like tossing candy and footballs at people in the stands
- I looked into the future and saw a squad of 4 guys with hard hats n beads singing "Eagles Take It Up The Asss" to the theme of camptown races, it was phenonenonal!!!!!

And now the bad......
- Our O-Line went from bad at run blocking and pretty good at pass protection to just straight up BAD, eli was getting flushed out of the pocket waaay too often
- DJ Ware, cant we just suit him and put him behind a concession booth already!?!?!
- Our lack of pass rush with a touchable line that the eagles have is disgusting.* We gotta get a pass rush going, plain n simple
- I dont know what it is, but we need to fix our O-Lines horrible run blocking, we cant open holes and sustain blocks, its like they just dont have the juice anymore


Thank goodness I dont have work today, so I can rest my voice.* Cause as you guys who have attended a game with me know, if I still have a voice by the end of the game I didnt do my job as a fan, LOL


holy ****!!! FIRST DOWN GUY??!

Is he the dude that stands up every first down and goes: "THATS ANOTHER GIANTS...."

and then the crowd goes FIRST DOWN?!

PLEASE TELL ME YES!!! Lol i loved that guy!

OLine has been making Eli run all year... they've completely sucked in all aspects all year

Ware played pretty good last night man...
Yes, thats the guy!!!!!!

Our O-Line was playing pretty well for most of the year, there are only a few games where our big uglies got taken advantage of

Ware sucks plain n simple, the guy brings nothing but mediocraty to the table

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 12:12 PM
im mad i missed boardwalk empire for that **** show.

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 12:13 PM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
</p>


yea no ****...how hard was that to watch? we really got picked apart in the 4th...terrible.</p>I was at the game last nite and there were a few good things to take away from the game

-Herzlich and Prince played amazingly especially for this being Prince's 1st game in a little under a year
- Our 2ndary was excellent for almost all of the game
- The crowd was ROCKING, everyone was up and loud for the whole game
- I found my favorite section ever 314, we sat next to the 'First Down Guy' who has crazy antics for every Giants 1st down like tossing candy and footballs at people in the stands
- I looked into the future and saw a squad of 4 guys with hard hats n beads singing "Eagles Take It Up The Asss" to the theme of camptown races, it was phenonenonal!!!!!

And now the bad......
- Our O-Line went from bad at run blocking and pretty good at pass protection to just straight up BAD, eli was getting flushed out of the pocket waaay too often
- DJ Ware, cant we just suit him and put him behind a concession booth already!?!?!
- Our lack of pass rush with a touchable line that the eagles have is disgusting. We gotta get a pass rush going, plain n simple
- I dont know what it is, but we need to fix our O-Lines horrible run blocking, we cant open holes and sustain blocks, its like they just dont have the juice anymore


Thank goodness I dont have work today, so I can rest my voice. Cause as you guys who have attended a game with me know, if I still have a voice by the end of the game I didnt do my job as a fan, LOL


holy ****!!! FIRST DOWN GUY??!

Is he the dude that stands up every first down and goes: "THATS ANOTHER GIANTS...."

and then the crowd goes FIRST DOWN?!

PLEASE TELL ME YES!!! Lol i loved that guy!

OLine has been making Eli run all year... they've completely sucked in all aspects all year

Ware played pretty good last night man...
Yes, thats the guy!!!!!!

Our O-Line was playing pretty well for most of the year, there are only a few games where our big uglies got taken advantage of

Ware sucks plain n simple, the guy brings nothing but mediocraty to the table

314?? I say behind him a couple years ago and he was awesome. I totally jacked that off of him when Giants get a first down. Im ALWAYS getting tickets there now that I know lol

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:13 PM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>I gotta admit there were waaaay too many people that were too quick to boo last night, it was pissing me off

WOW, Jacobs needs to toughen up emotionally.* I feel like he dropped that quote while bursting out in tears.* C'mon sen this is NY if you aint doin your job proper we're gonna bust ya balls and thats what the booing is, dont take it personal

He will be gone next year and not soon enough for me. Let him go suck and underachieve for someone else. I am done making excuses for this guy and sticking up for him. He is not the same guy he was and it could be because of his age or the fact he took a pay cut or what, I don't know.

I'm glad you at least had fun at the game. Sorry we couldn't pull it. I think that is the 5th or 6th game in a row the Eagles have won at NY. Embarrassing!
When Jacobs doesnt run well its his fault and when Bradshaw doesnt produce its the O-Lines fault

I dont get why people keep thinking that, our O0Line is the reason Walter Peyton wouldnt be able to crack 100 on our team

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:20 PM
18 play drive

6/6 on 3rd downs

Make 1 ****ing stop!!!!!!!!!!!
</p>


yea no ****...how hard was that to watch? we really got picked apart in the 4th...terrible.</p>I was at the game last nite and there were a few good things to take away from the game

-Herzlich and Prince played amazingly especially for this being Prince's 1st game in a little under a year
- Our 2ndary was excellent for almost all of the game
- The crowd was ROCKING, everyone was up and loud for the whole game
- I found my favorite section ever 314, we sat next to the 'First Down Guy' who has crazy antics for every Giants 1st down like tossing candy and footballs at people in the stands
- I looked into the future and saw a squad of 4 guys with hard hats n beads singing "Eagles Take It Up The Asss" to the theme of camptown races, it was phenonenonal!!!!!

And now the bad......
- Our O-Line went from bad at run blocking and pretty good at pass protection to just straight up BAD, eli was getting flushed out of the pocket waaay too often
- DJ Ware, cant we just suit him and put him behind a concession booth already!?!?!
- Our lack of pass rush with a touchable line that the eagles have is disgusting.* We gotta get a pass rush going, plain n simple
- I dont know what it is, but we need to fix our O-Lines horrible run blocking, we cant open holes and sustain blocks, its like they just dont have the juice anymore


Thank goodness I dont have work today, so I can rest my voice.* Cause as you guys who have attended a game with me know, if I still have a voice by the end of the game I didnt do my job as a fan, LOL


holy ****!!! FIRST DOWN GUY??!

Is he the dude that stands up every first down and goes: "THATS ANOTHER GIANTS...."

and then the crowd goes FIRST DOWN?!

PLEASE TELL ME YES!!! Lol i loved that guy!

OLine has been making Eli run all year... they've completely sucked in all aspects all year

Ware played pretty good last night man...
Yes, thats the guy!!!!!!

Our O-Line was playing pretty well for most of the year, there are only a few games where our big uglies got taken advantage of

Ware sucks plain n simple, the guy brings nothing but mediocraty to the table

314?? I say behind him a couple years ago and he was awesome. I totally jacked that off of him when Giants get a first down.* Im ALWAYS getting tickets there now that I know lol
Yea that section is the best, even the older guys in their 60s were getting up for the whole game and amping everyone up.... Not 1 whiney blackberry boofing beeeeaaaattttttttcccchhh telling us to sit down or be quiet

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 12:23 PM
do you see that thread hoping we lose out so we can clean house. pathetic. i would love nothing more than to clean house, but to root for a loss?? wtf?

bigblue4417
11-21-2011, 12:25 PM
Rex Ryan told a customer at the Patriots-Jets game to go “F— off,”. The
NFL announced Monday that Ryan will be fined $75,000 for it. That’s
$75,000 more than he would have paid if camera phones hadn’t been
invented yet.

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:28 PM
do you see that thread hoping we lose out so we can clean house. pathetic. i would love nothing more than to clean house, but to root for a loss?? wtf?
What kind of pathetic fans are those!?!?!

Yea it would be great to get high draft picks, clean our Killdrive but at what expense?? If ya ask me its def not worth losing out, I have self respect for myself and my squad

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:29 PM
Rex Ryan told a customer at the Patriots-Jets game to go “F— off,”. The
NFL announced Monday that Ryan will be fined $75,000 for it. *That’s
$75,000 more than he would have paid if camera phones hadn’t been
invented yet.I wish TC would tell all these self loathing Giants fans that want us to lose out to go 'F' off"

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 12:32 PM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>I gotta admit there were waaaay too many people that were too quick to boo last night, it was pissing me off

WOW, Jacobs needs to toughen up emotionally. I feel like he dropped that quote while bursting out in tears. C'mon sen this is NY if you aint doin your job proper we're gonna bust ya balls and thats what the booing is, dont take it personal

He will be gone next year and not soon enough for me. Let him go suck and underachieve for someone else. I am done making excuses for this guy and sticking up for him. He is not the same guy he was and it could be because of his age or the fact he took a pay cut or what, I don't know.

I'm glad you at least had fun at the game. Sorry we couldn't pull it. I think that is the 5th or 6th game in a row the Eagles have won at NY. Embarrassing!
When Jacobs doesnt run well its his fault and when Bradshaw doesnt produce its the O-Lines fault

I dont get why people keep thinking that, our O0Line is the reason Walter Peyton wouldnt be able to crack 100 on our team

nobody is arguing that the line has held them both back

but Jacobs looked AWFUL last night... thats 3rd and 1 keeps replaying in my mind. Hes not running hard or fast and hes running high. He had like maybe 1 or 2 runs and then that one on the outside on third and long where he almost got hte first. But theres no intensity or consistancy

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 12:36 PM
Jacobs has more fire and pride in trying to fight defenders post play than he does running the ball during the play

dezzzR
11-21-2011, 12:38 PM
Rex Ryan told a customer at the Patriots-Jets game to go “F— off,”. The
NFL announced Monday that Ryan will be fined $75,000 for it. That’s
$75,000 more than he would have paid if camera phones hadn’t been
invented yet.pretty steep, when someone says your arch nemesis (belichick) is better than you, its hard to hold back.

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:38 PM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>I gotta admit there were waaaay too many people that were too quick to boo last night, it was pissing me off

WOW, Jacobs needs to toughen up emotionally.* I feel like he dropped that quote while bursting out in tears.* C'mon sen this is NY if you aint doin your job proper we're gonna bust ya balls and thats what the booing is, dont take it personal

He will be gone next year and not soon enough for me. Let him go suck and underachieve for someone else. I am done making excuses for this guy and sticking up for him. He is not the same guy he was and it could be because of his age or the fact he took a pay cut or what, I don't know.

I'm glad you at least had fun at the game. Sorry we couldn't pull it. I think that is the 5th or 6th game in a row the Eagles have won at NY. Embarrassing!
When Jacobs doesnt run well its his fault and when Bradshaw doesnt produce its the O-Lines fault

I dont get why people keep thinking that, our O0Line is the reason Walter Peyton wouldnt be able to crack 100 on our team

nobody is arguing that the line has held them both back

but Jacobs looked AWFUL last night... thats 3rd and 1 keeps replaying in my mind.* Hes not running hard or fast and hes running high.* He had like maybe 1 or 2 runs and then that one on the outside on third and long where he almost got hte first. But theres no intensity or consistancy
How could you say the guy isnt running hard, cause his stats arent greaT??

Im not blind to the fact that Jacobs isnt what he used to be but the unbridled hate on him and the free pass that Bradshaw gets is ridiculous, I just dont get it. Bradshaw has been blowing dong all season long yet he gets a free pass. Jacobs has a bad game here n there and its like the 2nd coming of the holocaust

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:38 PM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>I gotta admit there were waaaay too many people that were too quick to boo last night, it was pissing me off

WOW, Jacobs needs to toughen up emotionally.* I feel like he dropped that quote while bursting out in tears.* C'mon sen this is NY if you aint doin your job proper we're gonna bust ya balls and thats what the booing is, dont take it personal

He will be gone next year and not soon enough for me. Let him go suck and underachieve for someone else. I am done making excuses for this guy and sticking up for him. He is not the same guy he was and it could be because of his age or the fact he took a pay cut or what, I don't know.

I'm glad you at least had fun at the game. Sorry we couldn't pull it. I think that is the 5th or 6th game in a row the Eagles have won at NY. Embarrassing!
When Jacobs doesnt run well its his fault and when Bradshaw doesnt produce its the O-Lines fault

I dont get why people keep thinking that, our O0Line is the reason Walter Peyton wouldnt be able to crack 100 on our team

nobody is arguing that the line has held them both back

but Jacobs looked AWFUL last night... thats 3rd and 1 keeps replaying in my mind.* Hes not running hard or fast and hes running high.* He had like maybe 1 or 2 runs and then that one on the outside on third and long where he almost got hte first. But theres no intensity or consistancy
How could you say the guy isnt running hard, cause his stats arent greaT??

Im not blind to the fact that Jacobs isnt what he used to be but the unbridled hate on him and the free pass that Bradshaw gets is ridiculous, I just dont get it. Bradshaw has been blowing dong all season long yet he gets a free pass. Jacobs has a bad game here n there and its like the 2nd coming of the holocaust

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:40 PM
Jacobs has more fire and pride in trying to fight defenders post play than he does running the ball during the play
BS MMB

100% opinion

Kinda hard to run when you think theres gonna be a hole opened up for ya and all there is is a wall full of you O-Linemen getting abused

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:41 PM
So I didnt rewatch the game, and I really dont want to, but I gotta ask.

How did the crowd sound last nite?? The stadium was ERUPTING on every play

JPizzack
11-21-2011, 12:42 PM
How could you say the guy isnt running hard, cause his stats arent greaT?? Im not blind to the fact that Jacobs isnt what he used to be but the unbridled hate on him and the free pass that Bradshaw gets is ridiculous, I just dont get it. Bradshaw has been blowing dong all season long yet he gets a free pass. Jacobs has a bad game here n there and its like the 2nd coming of the holocaust</P>


Agreed. Thank you Kase...
Jacobs needs the line to give him the first 3 yards, and thats where he shines. He's not a great outside runner, so you need to give him that first hole so he can smash through the 2nd set of defense. if that worked every play he'd average at least 6 yards a carry.

Bradshaw, for everyone saying he's the most explosive player we have, really hasnt shown me that he doesnt need the line either. He's very overrated in the eyes of Giants fans. sure, he's good....but he's not THAT good...
He's just a product of the o-line also...</P>

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:46 PM
Oh yea how has nobody mentioned the excellent game that Chris Canty had. That dude was all over the field

And on that note, WTF if our offense wasnt totally anemic we would have had that game in the damned bag. Our D was stellar for 90% of the game, we FINALLY had some run D, and our guys other than the DEs were really puttin in work.

Our Offense was the problem, they kept the defense on the field for waaaaay too long. 10second drives are not what wins games, unless they result in long bomb TDs but thats not the case

Yes, everyone wants to burn Jacobs at the stake but it was our offense as a whole that crapped the bed last nite

Oh and Weatherford is an AMAZING punter, the guys kicks are constantly money

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 12:46 PM
“That’s the best thing that they do here is boo,” Jacobs (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brandon+Jacobs) said. “I’m not worried about that. I've been hearing that for seven years.”

“They
had guys in gaps,” Jacobs said of the Eagles. “I just hit holes. I just
got the ball and took what they gave me. There was nothing more I could
have done in there. I went out there and laid it on the line.<div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
Woe is me...

I didn't think we would miss Bradshaw this bad
</div>I gotta admit there were waaaay too many people that were too quick to boo last night, it was pissing me off

WOW, Jacobs needs to toughen up emotionally. I feel like he dropped that quote while bursting out in tears. C'mon sen this is NY if you aint doin your job proper we're gonna bust ya balls and thats what the booing is, dont take it personal

He will be gone next year and not soon enough for me. Let him go suck and underachieve for someone else. I am done making excuses for this guy and sticking up for him. He is not the same guy he was and it could be because of his age or the fact he took a pay cut or what, I don't know.

I'm glad you at least had fun at the game. Sorry we couldn't pull it. I think that is the 5th or 6th game in a row the Eagles have won at NY. Embarrassing!
When Jacobs doesnt run well its his fault and when Bradshaw doesnt produce its the O-Lines fault

I dont get why people keep thinking that, our O0Line is the reason Walter Peyton wouldnt be able to crack 100 on our team

nobody is arguing that the line has held them both back

but Jacobs looked AWFUL last night... thats 3rd and 1 keeps replaying in my mind. Hes not running hard or fast and hes running high. He had like maybe 1 or 2 runs and then that one on the outside on third and long where he almost got hte first. But theres no intensity or consistancy
How could you say the guy isnt running hard, cause his stats arent greaT??

Im not blind to the fact that Jacobs isnt what he used to be but the unbridled hate on him and the free pass that Bradshaw gets is ridiculous, I just dont get it. Bradshaw has been blowing dong all season long yet he gets a free pass. Jacobs has a bad game here n there and its like the 2nd coming of the holocaust

because tiny LBers are knocking him back one on one constantly...

i dunno how the view was from where u were sitting, but if u got the game DVR'd, go watch it man. It honestly looks like we're just handing the ball of to a Tight End

Kase-1
11-21-2011, 12:50 PM
How could you say the guy isnt running hard, cause his stats arent greaT?? Im not blind to the fact that Jacobs isnt what he used to be but the unbridled hate on him and the free pass that Bradshaw gets is ridiculous, I just dont get it. Bradshaw has been blowing dong all season long yet he gets a free pass. Jacobs has a bad game here n there and its like the 2nd coming of the holocaust</P>


Agreed. Thank you Kase...
Jacobs needs the line to give him the first 3 yards, and thats where he shines. He's not a great outside runner, so you need to give him that first hole so he can smash through the 2nd set of defense. if that worked every play he'd average at least 6 yards a carry.

Bradshaw, for everyone saying he's the most explosive player we have, really hasnt shown me that he doesnt need the line either. He's very overrated in the eyes of Giants fans. sure, he's good....but he's not THAT good...
He's just a product of the o-line also...</P>I also agree with you

Bradshaw gets more of a leash cause if the holes are clogged inside he has a better chance of bouncing it outside for a gain. If Jacobs tries that everyone will say he stuttersteps (which he only does when the holes get clogged) or he doesnt know where to run

BJ is a huge back, he needs open holes to run through, hes not a scat back like Sproles and people gotta get that idea that all rbs are the same out of their head

MattMeyerBud
11-21-2011, 12:52 PM
Jacobs has more fire and pride in trying to fight defenders post play than he does running the ball during the play
BS MMB

100% opinion

Kinda hard to run when you think theres gonna be a hole opened up for ya and all there is is a wall full of you O-Linemen getting abused

the fact that Jacobs is looking for a hole on 3rd and 1 says all i need to know about how his running mentality has changed.

Just ****in bust up, brace ur self for hell, and fight for the yard...

im telling u last night marked the night that Jacobs future with the Giants became nonexistant imo