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MattMeyerBud
12-08-2011, 04:19 PM
Christian Ponder (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6433/christian-ponder) missed his second straight practice on Thursday with a hip pointer. Offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave admitted he didn’t know (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/135184348.html) if Ponder would play and expressed concern about his status, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.


“He didn’t look too good walking [Wednesday],”Musgrave said.</p>

hey do u think u can post this for teh 4th time in one day?

I will be thoroughly disappointed if Ponder is a no go

DavenIII
12-08-2011, 04:20 PM
Apparently people are just shooting people all over the place on Virgina Tech's campus or something, just an FYI.

Morehead State
12-08-2011, 04:21 PM
FTU: 138</P>


Terrorist Squad: 87</P>


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dezzzR
12-08-2011, 04:23 PM
Apparently people are just shooting people over the place on Virgina Tech's campus or something, just an FYI.
whaat???

DavenIII
12-08-2011, 04:25 PM
double Post

DavenIII
12-08-2011, 04:25 PM
Apparently people are just shooting people over the place on Virgina Tech's campus or something, just an FYI.
whaat???


Guns bang bang, cop down (for serious)
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/shots-fired-at-virginia-tech-campus/2011/12/08/gIQApjNafO_blog.html">
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/shots-fired-at-virginia-tech-campus/2011/12/08/gIQApjNafO_blog.html</a>

bigblue4417
12-08-2011, 04:30 PM
Christian Ponder (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6433/christian-ponder) missed his second straight practice on Thursday with a hip pointer. Offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave admitted he didn’t know (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/135184348.html) if Ponder would play and expressed concern about his status, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.


“He didn’t look too good walking [Wednesday],”Musgrave said.</p>

hey do u think u can post this for teh 4th time in one day?

I will be thoroughly disappointed if Ponder is a no go

LOL, testy testy.

I was just giving you another update. I have not posted the same thing twice yet. Just trying to help. Geez

Morehead State
12-08-2011, 04:32 PM
Christian Ponder (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6433/christian-ponder) missed his second straight practice on Thursday with a hip pointer. Offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave admitted he didn’t know (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/135184348.html) if Ponder would play and expressed concern about his status, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.


“He didn’t look too good walking [Wednesday],”Musgrave said.</P>




hey do u think u can post this for teh 4th time in one day?

I will be thoroughly disappointed if Ponder is a no go

LOL, testy testy.

I was just giving you another update. I have not posted the same thing twice yet. Just trying to help. Geez
</P>


I hope he plays. Please...please......</P>

bigblue4417
12-08-2011, 06:25 PM
The Hornets are expected to trade Chris Paul to the Lakers for Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol.



YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 12:48 AM
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lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 08:22 AM
Rothy is a tough sob. I would of sworn that ankle was broken. Tom Brady got a woody when Rothy got sacked last night.

Ben Roethlisberger Injury Update: Steelers QB Sustains High Ankle Sprain
Dec
09
7:30a
by David Fucillo

READ MORE: ben roethlisberger injury, Ben Roethlisberger (QB - PIT), Pittsburgh Steelers

The Pittsburgh Steelers held on Thursday night to defeat the Cleveland Browns 14-3, but they may have suffered a tough loss in the process. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger went down with an ankle injury in the first half but managed to come back in the third quarter and finish out the game. Roethlisberger was limping the entire time and could barely get back to his running backs to hand off the ball.

After the game, head coach Mike Tomlin described the injury as a high ankle sprain. Recovery from a high ankle sprain can take anywhere from two to six weeks, which makes Big Ben's return to the field for the second half all the more impressive. Peter King was in the Steelers locker room after the game and he said Roethlisberger could only put about 20 ounces of weight on his left foot. I'm not really sure how exactly he knew it was 20 ounces, but that is a question for another day.

The Steelers travel to face the San Francisco 49ers on Monday Night Football in week 15, which gives Roethlisberger eleven days to get his ankle healed up if he wants to play. If he is unable to go, Charlie Batch would get the start in his place.

For more on the Steelers, check out Behind The Steel Curtain. For more on fantasy football, check out Fake Teams. Follow @sbnationfantasy on Twitter.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 08:24 AM
The Hornets are expected to trade Chris Paul to the Lakers for Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol.



YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
</P>


lolowned.....ain't happenin</P>


NBA owns the hornets, there's no way they trade CP3 to a contender for scrubs. Not happening. It won't help them sell the franchise. That trade had shady writen all over it. it better not go through.
I love how all the ESPN analysts tried to spin it as if it helps everyone in the trade and all teams improve lol.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:01 AM
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MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:02 AM
Rothy is a tough sob. I would of sworn that ankle was broken. Tom Brady got a woody when Rothy got sacked last night.

Ben Roethlisberger Injury Update: Steelers QB Sustains High Ankle Sprain
Dec
09
7:30a
by David Fucillo

READ MORE: ben roethlisberger injury, Ben Roethlisberger (QB - PIT), Pittsburgh Steelers

The Pittsburgh Steelers held on Thursday night to defeat the Cleveland Browns 14-3, but they may have suffered a tough loss in the process. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger went down with an ankle injury in the first half but managed to come back in the third quarter and finish out the game. Roethlisberger was limping the entire time and could barely get back to his running backs to hand off the ball.

After the game, head coach Mike Tomlin described the injury as a high ankle sprain. Recovery from a high ankle sprain can take anywhere from two to six weeks, which makes Big Ben's return to the field for the second half all the more impressive. Peter King was in the Steelers locker room after the game and he said Roethlisberger could only put about 20 ounces of weight on his left foot. I'm not really sure how exactly he knew it was 20 ounces, but that is a question for another day.

The Steelers travel to face the San Francisco 49ers on Monday Night Football in week 15, which gives Roethlisberger eleven days to get his ankle healed up if he wants to play. If he is unable to go, Charlie Batch would get the start in his place.

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yea that shiot looked nasty. Can't believe he was out there for the second half

He is a tough ****er

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:04 AM
Christian Ponder (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6433/christian-ponder) missed his second straight practice on Thursday with a hip pointer. Offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave admitted he didn’t know (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/135184348.html) if Ponder would play and expressed concern about his status, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.


“He didn’t look too good walking [Wednesday],”Musgrave said.</p>




hey do u think u can post this for teh 4th time in one day?

I will be thoroughly disappointed if Ponder is a no go

LOL, testy testy.

I was just giving you another update. I have not posted the same thing twice yet. Just trying to help. Geez
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I hope he plays. Please...please......</p>


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The Lakers' deal for New Orleans guard Chris Paul has been killed by the NBA, which owns the Hornets franchise.</p>


"It is not true that owners killed the deal," said NBA spokesman Tim
Frank. "It wasn't even discussed at the Board [of Governors] meeting.
The league office declined to make the trade for basketball reasons."</p>


The league bought the New Orleans franchise last December and has
typically left personnel decisions to the Hornets' front office.</p>


Nobody seemed more surprised by the death of the deal than Paul.</p>


"WoW," he wrote on Twitterat6:11 p.m.</p>


Lakers officials were still hunkered down in a room at the team's El
Segundo headquarters Thursday night, trying to ascertain whatwould
happennext.</p>


The Lakershad agreed to acquire Paulfrom New Orleans for power
forwards Pau Gasoland Lamar Odom in a three-team dealalso involving
Houston, a move thatsymbolizedashift from finesse, precision and
depth in the Lakers' frontcourt to speed and athleticism in their
backcourt.</p>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:05 AM
MORE UPDATES:




Dwight Howard’s representatives have told the New Jersey Nets that
they are his first choice and that he plans to ask the Orlando Magic for
a trade, ESPN reported early Friday morning.</p>

Howard’s agent, Dan Fegan, who has not commented publicly on Howard’s status, did not immediately return a message from the Orlando Sentinel seeking comment. Neither did Kevin Samples, Howard’s manager.</p>

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 09:07 AM
MORE UPDATES:





Dwight Howard’s representatives have told the New Jersey Nets that they are his first choice and that he plans to ask the Orlando Magic for a trade, ESPN reported early Friday morning.</P>


Howard’s agent, Dan Fegan, who has not commented publicly on Howard’s status, did not immediately return a message from the Orlando Sentinel seeking comment. Neither did Kevin Samples, Howard’s manager.</P>



</P>


Looks like we'll be spending winter 2012-13 in Brooklyn, ehh buddy? Lol</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 09:10 AM
</P>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:22 AM
</p>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>

honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 09:25 AM
</P>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</P>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</P>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</P>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 09:36 AM
</P>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</P>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</P>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</P>Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 09:38 AM
</P>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</P>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</P>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</P>Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?I can see it now.....on next years giants tickets there will be a picture of MMB wearing a guiness world record hat and a Thee Thread banner hanging in the background. Cool Stuff!

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:44 AM
</p>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</p>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</p>

yea I don't know lol

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:46 AM
</p>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</p>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</p>Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?

i googled it and a message board came up and some guy knew what it was and they tried to start a thread to break it but only got to like 37,000

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:47 AM
</p>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</p>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</p>Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?I can see it now.....on next years giants tickets there will be a picture of MMB wearing a guiness world record hat and a Thee Thread banner hanging in the background. Cool Stuff!


hahaa it would be THEE thread photo

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 09:51 AM
</p>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</p>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</p>Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?

i googled it and a message board came up and some guy knew what it was and they tried to start a thread to break it but only got to like 37,000
37,000? What a rookie!

Have you found a category for the record on the Guiness site?

My goal was to destroy my competition so that they would never consider competing against me again....Arnold Schwarzennegger.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 09:54 AM
</p>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</p>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</p>Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?

i googled it and a message board came up and some guy knew what it was and they tried to start a thread to break it but only got to like 37,000
37,000? What a rookie!

Have you found a category for the record on the Guiness site?

My goal was to destroy my competition so that they would never consider competing against me again....Arnold Schwarzennegger.

na I haven't really done much for this except email them and a quick google search

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 10:10 AM
I know that Byron, maybe Kase can appreciate this one. New Bathroom fan job turned into a complete shower re-do. Did the demo on the shower wall tile, glass doors on Monday. I'm down to studs and waiting for shower base delivery. Tile Cement board is waiting in garage and I'll get the tile materials today.

Last night I installed the new mixing valve. I suspect there was a slight leak in the old valve, which added to loss of tile integrity and created a small drip-drip downstairs. I don't like to wait on water damage, with all the mold issues and stuff-so I got right on it.

I went with the moen adler valve, which I have installed before, nice easy install and I'm ready for the wife to stand by the valve on her cell phone-so she can alert me if there's a leak while I turn on the water.

I like to connect about a 7 foot piece of pex tubing to the shower head so I can control the water flow down the drain or into a buck while I adjust the posi-temp feature of the valve. Not real difficult to set, but can get tricky. I connect the tubing and something told me to put a stop in the end of the tube just in case.

Turned water on and all was good. A while later my little guy and I are talking and I decide to take the stop out of the tube--water ricochet's into my chest and then back into the wall. I immediately pointed tube to the drain while I got the handle and posi-temp setting correct.

Although it would of been a ton of laughs if water exploded onto my wife had I failed to put the stop in, I was happy it didn't. Yes-I love this ****!

http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/bath/projects/remod_w1/faucet/shower/baftb18a.jpg

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 10:25 AM
I know that Byron, maybe Kase can appreciate this one. New Bathroom fan job turned into a complete shower re-do. Did the demo on the shower wall tile, glass doors on Monday. I'm down to studs and waiting for shower base delivery. Tile Cement board is waiting in garage and I'll get the tile materials today.

Last night I installed the new mixing valve. I suspect there was a slight leak in the old valve, which added to loss of tile integrity and created a small drip-drip downstairs. I don't like to wait on water damage, with all the mold issues and stuff-so I got right on it.

I went with the moen adler valve, which I have installed before, nice easy install and I'm ready for the wife to stand by the valve on her cell phone-so she can alert me if there's a leak while I turn on the water.

I like to connect about a 7 foot piece of pex tubing to the shower head so I can control the water flow down the drain or into a buck while I adjust the posi-temp feature of the valve. Not real difficult to set, but can get tricky. I connect the tubing and something told me to put a stop in the end of the tube just in case.

Turned water on and all was good. A while later my little guy and I are talking and I decide to take the stop out of the tube--water ricochet's into my chest and then back into the wall. I immediately pointed tube to the drain while I got the handle and posi-temp setting correct.

Although it would of been a ton of laughs if water exploded onto my wife had I failed to put the stop in, I was happy it didn't. <u>Yes-I love this ****!
</u>
http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/bath/projects/remod_w1/faucet/shower/baftb18a.jpg"if youre good with your hands you might never be rich but youll never go hungry"

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 10:30 AM
<div class="report">


The Nets could trade for Dwight Howard as soon as Friday, according to Chris Broussard on ESPN.com.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Howard is expected to soon tell the Magic that
he won't re-sign with them, and he sounds ready to team with Deron
Williams as the Nets move to Brooklyn in 2012-13. New Jersey has
reportedly offered Brook Lopez and two future first-round picks, and
they might send more players while taking back Hedo Turkoglu and his bad
contract. This is in the rumor phase right now, and Broussard notes
that New Jersey is still pursuing Nene in case they don't land Dwight.
</div>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 10:31 AM
<div class="report">


ESPN's Marc Stein reports that the three teams involved in the Chris Paul trade will appeal the NBA to reverse its decision.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The league has the power to veto the trade for
"basketball reasons," since it technically owns the team, but had left
Hornets GM Dell Demps to work unimpeded until over-reaching by nixing
this deal. It is now uncertain how the Hornets could negotiate a trade
for CP3 in good faith, and there's a chance David Stern will overturn
his own poor decision. Let's hope so, anyway.
</div>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 10:35 AM
I know that Byron, maybe Kase can appreciate this one. New Bathroom fan job turned into a complete shower re-do. Did the demo on the shower wall tile, glass doors on Monday. I'm down to studs and waiting for shower base delivery. Tile Cement board is waiting in garage and I'll get the tile materials today.

Last night I installed the new mixing valve. I suspect there was a slight leak in the old valve, which added to loss of tile integrity and created a small drip-drip downstairs. I don't like to wait on water damage, with all the mold issues and stuff-so I got right on it.

I went with the moen adler valve, which I have installed before, nice easy install and I'm ready for the wife to stand by the valve on her cell phone-so she can alert me if there's a leak while I turn on the water.

I like to connect about a 7 foot piece of pex tubing to the shower head so I can control the water flow down the drain or into a buck while I adjust the posi-temp feature of the valve. Not real difficult to set, but can get tricky. I connect the tubing and something told me to put a stop in the end of the tube just in case.

Turned water on and all was good. A while later my little guy and I are talking and I decide to take the stop out of the tube--water ricochet's into my chest and then back into the wall. I immediately pointed tube to the drain while I got the handle and posi-temp setting correct.

Although it would of been a ton of laughs if water exploded onto my wife had I failed to put the stop in, I was happy it didn't. <u>Yes-I love this ****!
</u>
http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/bath/projects/remod_w1/faucet/shower/baftb18a.jpg"if youre good with your hands you might never be rich but youll never go hungry"
True Dezz. Now I can utilize all the experience that I self taught myself in the trenches for my own personal use. It is a relaxing pleasure doing for myself as oppossed to hustling and dealing with customers. My dog Molly and the nfl channel are all the company I need as I work happily.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 10:36 AM
Danny Granger tweeted Thursday night, "Due to the sabotaging of the
LA/NO trade by David Stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete
brethren Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I'm changing my last
name to 'Stern's Bi#&amp;h'"

LMAO!!!!!!!! Danny Granger just went up a few notches in my book and I already liked him alot.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 10:39 AM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/220598011/Hollinger_John_35_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=johnhollinger)johnhollinger (http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=johnhollinger) <span class="timeline"></span>

One other note: I'd rather play out the year with Dwight Howard than take that pile of garbage New Jersey is offering.

lol

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 10:45 AM
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_47">Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nor/)’ proposed trade of <span class="ysp-player">Chris Paul (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3930/)</span> to the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/)
a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to
a vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports.
Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a
handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.</p>

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</div>


The following is the email in its entirety:</p>


Commissioner,</p><i id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_310">
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_309">It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_312">This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_311">Over the next three seasons this
deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and
approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to
non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_313">I cannot remember ever seeing a
trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved
over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would
give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for <span class="ysp-player">Dwight Howard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3818/).</span>
(They would also get a large trade exception that would help them
improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers
got <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)</span>
(at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens
of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a
number of prospects (one in <span class="ysp-player">Marc Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4325/)</span> who may become a max-salary player).</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_314">I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.</p>


I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.</p>


When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_315">Please advise….</p>
[/i]

Dan G.</p>


</p>

------------</p>


</p>

Not for nothing but the reality of it is that this whole theory is garbage. This guy is still butt hurt over losing Lebron, which is understandable. But the truth is that if he wasn't such a stubborn *** and would of been open to approaching Lebron in an honest way and open to trading him before the deadline in his last season, his tema would of been in a MUCH better position. Go ask the Nuggets.
</p>

Lets review the trade: Lakers make a move to dump salary cap - okay. They are getting a guy who has basically said that he WILL NOT resign with the Lakers and is heading to NY next year. Even still, Paul is best player in the deal but I do NOT think that the Lakers get better. Not this year and def not next year. Is it illegal to try and dump big contracts? Its like reverse discrimination.</p>


</p>

Hornets should be happy - they are getting some legit role players instead of just taking the hit of losing a superstar, like the Cavs did ironically. Houston just got a superstar at center. Hornets aren't happy about losing CP, but its inevitable.</p>


</p>

I went from liking this guys and feeling sorry for him to thinking hes an *******. "Its not fair, their GM is making good moves."
</p>


</p>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 10:46 AM
Danny Granger tweeted Thursday night, "Due to the sabotaging of the
LA/NO trade by David Stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete
brethren Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I'm changing my last
name to 'Stern's Bi#&h'"

LMAO!!!!!!!! Danny Granger just went up a few notches in my book and I already liked him alot.


I guess people get twisted over trades everywhere...Fantasy football, professionals, etc. I don't understand it...trades are made to benefit both parties. Otherwise they would never reach an agreement , right?

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 10:47 AM
<div class="report">


The Nets could trade for Dwight Howard as soon as Friday, according to Chris Broussard on ESPN.com.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Howard is expected to soon tell the Magic that
he won't re-sign with them, and he sounds ready to team with Deron
Williams as the Nets move to Brooklyn in 2012-13. New Jersey has
reportedly offered Brook Lopez and two future first-round picks, and
they might send more players while taking back Hedo Turkoglu and his bad
contract. This is in the rumor phase right now, and Broussard notes
that New Jersey is still pursuing Nene in case they don't land Dwight.
</div>

listen i Like Lopez hes decent. Your not going to get a better chance to get a decent big man, dump a contract, and get some picks for the future.

Why you would want to get nothing back for that is ******ed.

CP3 to Lakers this year, then knicks this year

DHow to Nets for life

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 10:48 AM
ain't happenin

You are like a scorn ex girlfriend when it comes to the NBA.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 10:48 AM
Danny Granger tweeted Thursday night, "Due to the sabotaging of the
LA/NO trade by David Stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete
brethren Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I'm changing my last
name to 'Stern's Bi#&amp;h'"

LMAO!!!!!!!! Danny Granger just went up a few notches in my book and I already liked him alot.


that'll be a nice fine

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 10:50 AM
Danny Granger tweeted Thursday night, "Due to the sabotaging of the LA/NO trade by David Stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete brethren Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I'm changing my last name to 'Stern's Bi#&amp;h'"

LMAO!!!!!!!! Danny Granger just went up a few notches in my book and I already liked him alot.
</P>


hahahahaha</P>

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 10:54 AM
<DIV class=report>


The Nets could trade for Dwight Howard as soon as Friday, according to Chris Broussard on ESPN.com.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>Howard is expected to soon tell the Magic that he won't re-sign with them, and he sounds ready to team with Deron Williams as the Nets move to Brooklyn in 2012-13. New Jersey has reportedly offered Brook Lopez and two future first-round picks, and they might send more players while taking back Hedo Turkoglu and his bad contract. This is in the rumor phase right now, and Broussard notes that New Jersey is still pursuing Nene in case they don't land Dwight. </DIV>




listen i Like Lopez hes decent. Your not going to get a better chance to get a decent big man, dump a contract, and get some picks for the future.

Why you would want to get nothing back for that is ******ed.

CP3 to Lakers this year, then knicks this year

DHow to Nets for life
</P>


Brook + the picks is a pretty good deal, I must say.</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 10:59 AM
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_47">Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nor/)’ proposed trade of <span class="ysp-player">Chris Paul (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3930/)</span> to the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/)
a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to
a vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports.
Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a
handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.</p>

<div id="sidebar">

<div class="related_news">
<div class="hd">More From Yahoo! Sports Staff</div>
<div class="bd">
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</div>
</div>





</div>


The following is the email in its entirety:</p>


Commissioner,</p><i id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_310">
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_309">It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_312">This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_311">Over the next three seasons this
deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and
approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to
non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_313">I cannot remember ever seeing a
trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved
over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would
give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for <span class="ysp-player">Dwight Howard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3818/).</span>
(They would also get a large trade exception that would help them
improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers
got <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)</span>
(at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens
of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a
number of prospects (one in <span class="ysp-player">Marc Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4325/)</span> who may become a max-salary player).</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_314">I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.</p>


I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.</p>


When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_315">Please advise….</p>
[/i]

Dan G.</p>


</p>

------------</p>


</p>

Not for nothing but the reality of it is that this whole theory is garbage. This guy is still butt hurt over losing Lebron, which is understandable. But the truth is that if he wasn't such a stubborn *** and would of been open to approaching Lebron in an honest way and open to trading him before the deadline in his last season, his tema would of been in a MUCH better position. Go ask the Nuggets.
</p>

Lets review the trade: Lakers make a move to dump salary cap - okay. They are getting a guy who has basically said that he WILL NOT resign with the Lakers and is heading to NY next year. Even still, Paul is best player in the deal but I do NOT think that the Lakers get better. Not this year and def not next year. Is it illegal to try and dump big contracts? Its like reverse discrimination.</p>


</p>

Hornets should be happy - they are getting some legit role players instead of just taking the hit of losing a superstar, like the Cavs did ironically. Houston just got a superstar at center. Hornets aren't happy about losing CP, but its inevitable.</p>


</p>

I went from liking this guys and feeling sorry for him to thinking hes an *******. "Its not fair, their GM is making good moves."
</p>


</p>
He sounds like me crying about fantasy football. lol And just like me he is wrong. He is bitter about losing Lebron and he is just bitter in general. He is also upset because of the financial savings the Lakers would have and he won't get the revenue sharing from us being over the cap. He sounds like a crybaby *****. **** the Cavs and **** him. Maybe he should have built a better team around Lebron instead of Mo Williams, Varejo, Z and other scrubs.

The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:01 AM
ain't happenin
You are like a scorn ex girlfriend when it comes to the NBA.
</P>


cuz it's so ****ing corrupt, dude. youre so blinded because 90% of the time, it's your team doing the ripping off....

I mean, i KNOW youre upset if you dont get Paul....but, this trade STUNK of bull**** from the moment it was announced. A team owned by the NBA, who is tring to sell the team....and they are A) dumping one of hte best players in the league for NOTHING...to a team who is STEALING him, and MAKING MONEY OFF THE DEAL!!!!
And you think for some reason this is normal???</P>


And then you post some twitter feed of a guy who called the NJ offer of 2 first rounders and a center for Howard "garbage"? quit drinkin the koolaide bro....</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:04 AM
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_47">Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nor/)’ proposed trade of <span class="ysp-player">Chris Paul (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3930/)</span> to the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/)
a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to
a vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports.
Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a
handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.</p>

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The following is the email in its entirety:</p>


Commissioner,</p><i id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_310">
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_309">It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_312">This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_311">Over the next three seasons this
deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and
approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to
non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_313">I cannot remember ever seeing a
trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved
over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would
give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for <span class="ysp-player">Dwight Howard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3818/).</span>
(They would also get a large trade exception that would help them
improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers
got <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)</span>
(at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens
of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a
number of prospects (one in <span class="ysp-player">Marc Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4325/)</span> who may become a max-salary player).</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_314">I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.</p>


I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.</p>


When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_315">Please advise….</p>
[/i]

Dan G.</p>


</p>

------------</p>


</p>

Not for nothing but the reality of it is that this whole theory is garbage. This guy is still butt hurt over losing Lebron, which is understandable. But the truth is that if he wasn't such a stubborn *** and would of been open to approaching Lebron in an honest way and open to trading him before the deadline in his last season, his tema would of been in a MUCH better position. Go ask the Nuggets.
</p>

Lets review the trade: Lakers make a move to dump salary cap - okay. They are getting a guy who has basically said that he WILL NOT resign with the Lakers and is heading to NY next year. Even still, Paul is best player in the deal but I do NOT think that the Lakers get better. Not this year and def not next year. Is it illegal to try and dump big contracts? Its like reverse discrimination.</p>


</p>

Hornets should be happy - they are getting some legit role players instead of just taking the hit of losing a superstar, like the Cavs did ironically. Houston just got a superstar at center. Hornets aren't happy about losing CP, but its inevitable.</p>


</p>

I went from liking this guys and feeling sorry for him to thinking hes an *******. "Its not fair, their GM is making good moves."
</p>


</p>
He sounds like me crying about fantasy football. lol And just like me he is wrong. He is bitter about losing Lebron and he is just bitter in general. He is also upset because of the financial savings the Lakers would have and he won't get the revenue sharing from us being over the cap. He sounds like a crybaby *****. **** the Cavs and **** him. Maybe he should have built a better team around Lebron instead of Mo Williams, Varejo, Z and other scrubs.

The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.



LMFAO i wasn't going to go there but thats exactly what it reminded me of.

I agree the luxory tax has something to do with it as well. But you cna't have it ALL for you. His misconception is that this move puts the Lakers over the top. I got to be honest Lando - I think this is a bad move for this year. Im sure they'll be able to get a top notch FA over the next few years but it won't be Paul.


He should of tried a move like this.and maybe he wouldn't have the most pitiful team in the NBA. He was king of bad contracts and no foresight. He tried just throwing it all on Lebron and it backfired. Personally I think he needs to sell the teams. Hes on tilt and jaded.

I agree with you Lando, this is horse****. I think this **** backfires and he goes to the Lakers.

I do feel bad for Stern, hes in a lose/lose situation. I think this is the beginning of the end for him

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 11:06 AM
Am. Airlines filed ch 11? Wtf, I was busy sleeping at the wheel on that one! ****me! Gd - I hate this economy, bring back the late 90's into mid 2000's.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:06 AM
for the record, yes I believe the Gilbert nonsense was a bit drastic. I feel something would have been done anyway, but he does constantly come across as whiny.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:07 AM
Am. Airlines filed ch 11? Wtf, I was busy sleeping at the wheel on that one! ****me! Gd - I hate this economy, bring back the late 90's into mid 2000's.</P>


yea, happened last week....i got these emails about it because I have a card with a bunch of miles and stuff. that wont be affected they said though.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:08 AM
ain't happenin
You are like a scorn ex girlfriend when it comes to the NBA.
</p>


cuz it's so ****ing corrupt, dude. youre so blinded because 90% of the time, it's your team doing the ripping off....

I mean, i KNOW youre upset if you dont get Paul....but, this trade STUNK of bull**** from the moment it was announced. A team owned by the NBA, who is tring to sell the team....and they are A) dumping one of hte best players in the league for NOTHING...to a team who is STEALING him, and MAKING MONEY OFF THE DEAL!!!!
And you think for some reason this is normal???</p>


And then you post some twitter feed of a guy who called the NJ offer of 2 first rounders and a center for Howard "garbage"? quit drinkin the koolaide bro....</p>

I am an avid laker hater and I think its bull**** that this trade is held up.

Its a trade where all 3 teams benefit. If this was somebody like the Kings making a move to dump cap nobody would complain.

What was bull**** about it? ALL three teams improved their status. Maybe not the Hornets for THIS year, but when they lose Paul next year and get NOTHING for him then we'll see how much bull**** it was to try and dump him this year.

Scola, Martin, Odom are some damn fine roll players. If they can land a FA next year they will have a very legit team..

And I stand by my comment - Lakers get worse this year if they lose Gasol, Odom 4 CP3. They are doing it to switch **** up and open cap for the future. So suggest its a bull**** move because they free up cap money is stupid. Its good GM'ing. This isn't the original Gasol trade

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:13 AM
i need anger management. the smallest **** and
http://www.animateit.net/data/media/june2010/farleybusdn1.gif

DavenIII
12-09-2011, 11:14 AM
</p>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</p>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</p>Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?

i googled it and a message board came up and some guy knew what it was and they tried to start a thread to break it but only got to like 37,000
37,000? What a rookie!

Have you found a category for the record on the Guiness site?

My goal was to destroy my competition so that they would never consider competing against me again....Arnold Schwarzennegger.

na I haven't really done much for this except email them and a quick google search


just send in an application for a new record (Forum Thread with Most Replies) or something like that and contact info,email seems to make it look like you were questioning what the current record is and they don't have a record for this yet...so just go to the place were you apply for having a new record...if it's not they'll tell you.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:15 AM
The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.

</P>


holy ****, and you call me scorn!??!
this is so delusional? Lakers would be worse?! are you ****in serious Landon? cmon man...
at minimum, what this does is gives all other teams the chance to make offers. REAL offers. not completely lopsided ones.

EVERYONE knows that the money saved in this deal was just going to be to make a run at Howard and drop Bynum in on the deal. So nobody would need Odom and Pau....it's such a win for Lakers even if they didnt get Howard....</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:16 AM
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JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:18 AM
And I stand by my comment - Lakers get worse this year if they lose Gasol, Odom 4 CP3. They are doing it to switch **** up and open cap for the future. So suggest its a bull**** move because they free up cap money is stupid. Its good GM'ing. This isn't the original Gasol trade
</P>


Not a chance dude....not a ****ing chance. CP3 makes Bynum THAT much more valuable, and makes Kobe THAT much bigger of a threat. Lakers have never had a PG...and this takes soooooo much pressure off the 2guard when you have someone like Paul.
Instant Finals favorites. THAT'S why Lando is mad.
The lakers dont need a PF/SF like Pau and Odom if they have paul. They can plug in those spots with good options, or ****, even defensive specialists, and be amazing. It's THAT kind of team with a good center, and 2 elite guards.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:19 AM
</p>


So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>




honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
</p>


yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</p>Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?

i googled it and a message board came up and some guy knew what it was and they tried to start a thread to break it but only got to like 37,000
37,000? What a rookie!

Have you found a category for the record on the Guiness site?

My goal was to destroy my competition so that they would never consider competing against me again....Arnold Schwarzennegger.

na I haven't really done much for this except email them and a quick google search


just send in an application for a new record (Forum Thread with Most Replies) or something like that and contact info,email seems to make it look like you were questioning what the current record is and they don't have a record for this yet...so just go to the place were you apply for having a new record...if it's not they'll tell you.


lol u can handle that. Im not sending money either

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:21 AM
lol this was the coolest movie when i was a kid
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JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:23 AM
although I'm in the minority obviously in this debate, it's cool to actually have a conversation about the NBA, lmao....
It's just unfortunate that the debate is essentially about how much the NBA sucks =P

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 11:25 AM
Am. Airlines filed ch 11? Wtf, I was busy sleeping at the wheel on that one! ****me! Gd - I hate this economy, bring back the late 90's into mid 2000's.</P>


yea, happened last week....i got these emails about it because I have a card with a bunch of miles and stuff. that wont be affected they said though.</P>Nov 29 is filing date I have. My co lost 7 beans on a trade agreement with AA. Like you said, the trade tix are still valid, but we had a cash portion built in as well.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:25 AM
And I stand by my comment - Lakers get worse this year if they lose Gasol, Odom 4 CP3. They are doing it to switch **** up and open cap for the future. So suggest its a bull**** move because they free up cap money is stupid. Its good GM'ing. This isn't the original Gasol trade
</p>


Not a chance dude....not a ****ing chance. CP3 makes Bynum THAT much more valuable, and makes Kobe THAT much bigger of a threat. Lakers have never had a PG...and this takes soooooo much pressure off the 2guard when you have someone like Paul.
Instant Finals favorites. THAT'S why Lando is mad.
The lakers dont need a PF/SF like Pau and Odom if they have paul. They can plug in those spots with good options, or ****, even defensive specialists, and be amazing. It's THAT kind of team with a good center, and 2 elite guards.</p>

its a push on Bynum. First off, the guy is never healthy. He may be the most overrated player in the NBA. We'll see how much more value it gives him when hes there now that actually centers can play him not Gasol. He won't just be the left over guy now.

CHRIS PAUL IS A KNICK NEXT YEAR - NO MATTER WHERE HE GOES.

Whose the Lakers starting lineup now? Whose their bench? Not to mention CP3 is a china doll too.

Who gives a **** if it helps them?! Thats what a trade is SUPPOSE to do. If the Rockets and Hornets were getting screwed over in the process, i'd agree with you but bottom line EVERY team gets better. This would be horse**** if roles were reversed and the Hornets get Kobe to add wtih CP.

Bottom line Kevin Martin is a pretty legit player who averages in the 20s, Scola is a servicable big man, and Odom may of been the MVP of the Lakers. Rockets get Gasol which is a top tier talent and I don't get why everybody is forgetting that. The Hornets are getting something out of the impending doom that will come to their franchise.

EVerybody wins. Saying that because the Lakers are doing good things with their tema it shouldn't be allowed is stupid. Its a fair deal bottom line. You can't say its unfair or corrupt. Its completely fair and it will go through at the end of the day

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:27 AM
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MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:28 AM
The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.

</p>


holy ****, and you call me scorn!??!
this is so delusional? Lakers would be worse?! are you ****in serious Landon? cmon man...
at minimum, what this does is gives all other teams the chance to make offers. REAL offers. not completely lopsided ones.

EVERYONE knows that the money saved in this deal was just going to be to make a run at Howard and drop Bynum in on the deal. So nobody would need Odom and Pau....it's such a win for Lakers even if they didnt get Howard....</p>

so ****ing what man... what sense does that make.

So if Howard gets traded and extends with the Nets - you'll think this trade should go through? Thats such a jaded and hater way to look at it. JPizz the hater.

You realize Howard is a FREE AGENT next year so if he doesn't extend somewhere HE WILL SIGN WHERE HE WANTS.

Either way this guy is going to go where he wants to go - bottom line. ITs amazing your crying about a GM unloading money. Amazing.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 11:32 AM
ain't happenin
You are like a scorn ex girlfriend when it comes to the NBA.
</p>


cuz it's so ****ing corrupt, dude. youre so blinded because 90% of the time, it's your team doing the ripping off....

I mean, i KNOW youre upset if you dont get Paul....but, this trade STUNK of bull**** from the moment it was announced. A team owned by the NBA, who is tring to sell the team....and they are A) dumping one of hte best players in the league for NOTHING...to a team who is STEALING him, and MAKING MONEY OFF THE DEAL!!!!
And you think for some reason this is normal???</p>


And then you post some twitter feed of a guy who called the NJ offer of 2 first rounders and a center for Howard "garbage"? quit drinkin the koolaide bro....</p>
No Pizz, you are blind. The Pau trade at the time seemed bad but it turns out it was great for both teams. We gave them 3 first round picks and Marc Gasol who is a top 5 big man. The Grizzlies have totally rebounded as a franchise because of that trade.

Every NBA head on every website and TV show says the trade was completely fair and if anything the Lakers gave up too much. We traded the 6th man of the year and one of the best PF's in the game.

The Hornets were getting Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Gordon Dragic, Lamar Odom plus draft picks. Those are 4 above average players. That team is better than most of the starting lineups in the NBA right now. They would not have found a better deal anywhere.

The Nets traded a 19 year old rookie and 2 1st rd picks for D Will. Arguably the best PG in the game. You are complaining about our trade? lol

It's not some guy either, It's John Hollinger. He probably knows more about the NBA than anyone. Granted it's his opinion but you get Lopez and 2 picks in return. If those picks bust out you got nothing for him. It's really not that good of a deal but I think the Magic would be dumb not to take it. Unless we offer Pau and Bynum which we may be doing now.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:34 AM
ain't happenin
You are like a scorn ex girlfriend when it comes to the NBA.
</p>


cuz it's so ****ing corrupt, dude. youre so blinded because 90% of the time, it's your team doing the ripping off....

I mean, i KNOW youre upset if you dont get Paul....but, this trade STUNK of bull**** from the moment it was announced. A team owned by the NBA, who is tring to sell the team....and they are A) dumping one of hte best players in the league for NOTHING...to a team who is STEALING him, and MAKING MONEY OFF THE DEAL!!!!
And you think for some reason this is normal???</p>


And then you post some twitter feed of a guy who called the NJ offer of 2 first rounders and a center for Howard "garbage"? quit drinkin the koolaide bro....</p>
No Pizz, you are blind. The Pau trade at the time seemed bad but it turns out it was great for both teams. We gave them 3 first round picks and Marc Gasol who is a top 5 big man. The Grizzlies have totally rebounded as a franchise because of that trade.

Every NBA head on every website and TV show says the trade was completely fair and if anything the Lakers gave up too much. We traded the 6th man of the year and one of the best PF's in the game.

The Hornets were getting Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Gordon Dragic, Lamar Odom plus draft picks. Those are 4 above average players. That team is better than most of the starting lineups in the NBA right now. They would not have found a better deal anywhere.

The Nets traded a 19 year old rookie and 2 1st rd picks for D Will. Arguably the best PG in the game. You are complaining about our trade? lol

It's not some guy either, It's John Hollinger. He probably knows more about the NBA than anyone. Granted it's his opinion but you get Lopez and 2 picks in return. If those picks bust out you got nothing for him. It's really not that good of a deal but I think the Magic would be dumb not to take it. Unless we offer Pau and Bynum which we may be doing now.


Pau trade turned out alot better - but do not stick up for it.

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:34 AM
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dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:35 AM
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bahahahahaaaa
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bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 11:35 AM
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_47">Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nor/)’ proposed trade of <span class="ysp-player">Chris Paul (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3930/)</span> to the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/)
a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to
a vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports.
Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a
handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.</p>

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The following is the email in its entirety:</p>


Commissioner,</p><i id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_310">
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_309">It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_312">This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_311">Over the next three seasons this
deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and
approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to
non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_313">I cannot remember ever seeing a
trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved
over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would
give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for <span class="ysp-player">Dwight Howard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3818/).</span>
(They would also get a large trade exception that would help them
improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers
got <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)</span>
(at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens
of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a
number of prospects (one in <span class="ysp-player">Marc Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4325/)</span> who may become a max-salary player).</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_314">I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.</p>


I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.</p>


When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_315">Please advise….</p>
[/i]

Dan G.</p>


</p>

------------</p>


</p>

Not for nothing but the reality of it is that this whole theory is garbage. This guy is still butt hurt over losing Lebron, which is understandable. But the truth is that if he wasn't such a stubborn *** and would of been open to approaching Lebron in an honest way and open to trading him before the deadline in his last season, his tema would of been in a MUCH better position. Go ask the Nuggets.
</p>

Lets review the trade: Lakers make a move to dump salary cap - okay. They are getting a guy who has basically said that he WILL NOT resign with the Lakers and is heading to NY next year. Even still, Paul is best player in the deal but I do NOT think that the Lakers get better. Not this year and def not next year. Is it illegal to try and dump big contracts? Its like reverse discrimination.</p>


</p>

Hornets should be happy - they are getting some legit role players instead of just taking the hit of losing a superstar, like the Cavs did ironically. Houston just got a superstar at center. Hornets aren't happy about losing CP, but its inevitable.</p>


</p>

I went from liking this guys and feeling sorry for him to thinking hes an *******. "Its not fair, their GM is making good moves."
</p>


</p>
He sounds like me crying about fantasy football. lol And just like me he is wrong. He is bitter about losing Lebron and he is just bitter in general. He is also upset because of the financial savings the Lakers would have and he won't get the revenue sharing from us being over the cap. He sounds like a crybaby *****. **** the Cavs and **** him. Maybe he should have built a better team around Lebron instead of Mo Williams, Varejo, Z and other scrubs.

The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.



LMFAO i wasn't going to go there but thats exactly what it reminded me of.

I agree the luxory tax has something to do with it as well. But you cna't have it ALL for you. His misconception is that this move puts the Lakers over the top. I got to be honest Lando - I think this is a bad move for this year. Im sure they'll be able to get a top notch FA over the next few years but it won't be Paul.


He should of tried a move like this.and maybe he wouldn't have the most pitiful team in the NBA. He was king of bad contracts and no foresight. He tried just throwing it all on Lebron and it backfired. Personally I think he needs to sell the teams. Hes on tilt and jaded.

I agree with you Lando, this is horse****. I think this **** backfires and he goes to the Lakers.

I do feel bad for Stern, hes in a lose/lose situation. I think this is the beginning of the end for him

I just figured I would say it before you did. lol

There are not many great FA's coming out any time soon. This was our chance to pounce.

Stern was already on thin ice, this just took it over the top.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:37 AM
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_47">Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nor/)’ proposed trade of <span class="ysp-player">Chris Paul (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3930/)</span> to the Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/)
a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to
a vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports.
Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a
handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.</p>

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The following is the email in its entirety:</p>


Commissioner,</p><i id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_310">
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_309">It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_312">This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_311">Over the next three seasons this
deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and
approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to
non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_313">I cannot remember ever seeing a
trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved
over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would
give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for <span class="ysp-player">Dwight Howard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3818/).</span>
(They would also get a large trade exception that would help them
improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers
got <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)</span>
(at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens
of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a
number of prospects (one in <span class="ysp-player">Marc Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4325/)</span> who may become a max-salary player).</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_314">I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.</p>


I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.</p>


When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_315">Please advise….</p>
[/i]

Dan G.</p>


</p>

------------</p>


</p>

Not for nothing but the reality of it is that this whole theory is garbage. This guy is still butt hurt over losing Lebron, which is understandable. But the truth is that if he wasn't such a stubborn *** and would of been open to approaching Lebron in an honest way and open to trading him before the deadline in his last season, his tema would of been in a MUCH better position. Go ask the Nuggets.
</p>

Lets review the trade: Lakers make a move to dump salary cap - okay. They are getting a guy who has basically said that he WILL NOT resign with the Lakers and is heading to NY next year. Even still, Paul is best player in the deal but I do NOT think that the Lakers get better. Not this year and def not next year. Is it illegal to try and dump big contracts? Its like reverse discrimination.</p>


</p>

Hornets should be happy - they are getting some legit role players instead of just taking the hit of losing a superstar, like the Cavs did ironically. Houston just got a superstar at center. Hornets aren't happy about losing CP, but its inevitable.</p>


</p>

I went from liking this guys and feeling sorry for him to thinking hes an *******. "Its not fair, their GM is making good moves."
</p>


</p>
He sounds like me crying about fantasy football. lol And just like me he is wrong. He is bitter about losing Lebron and he is just bitter in general. He is also upset because of the financial savings the Lakers would have and he won't get the revenue sharing from us being over the cap. He sounds like a crybaby *****. **** the Cavs and **** him. Maybe he should have built a better team around Lebron instead of Mo Williams, Varejo, Z and other scrubs.

The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.



LMFAO i wasn't going to go there but thats exactly what it reminded me of.

I agree the luxory tax has something to do with it as well. But you cna't have it ALL for you. His misconception is that this move puts the Lakers over the top. I got to be honest Lando - I think this is a bad move for this year. Im sure they'll be able to get a top notch FA over the next few years but it won't be Paul.


He should of tried a move like this.and maybe he wouldn't have the most pitiful team in the NBA. He was king of bad contracts and no foresight. He tried just throwing it all on Lebron and it backfired. Personally I think he needs to sell the teams. Hes on tilt and jaded.

I agree with you Lando, this is horse****. I think this **** backfires and he goes to the Lakers.

I do feel bad for Stern, hes in a lose/lose situation. I think this is the beginning of the end for him

I just figured I would say it before you did. lol

There are not many great FA's coming out any time soon. This was our chance to pounce.

Stern was already on thin ice, this just took it over the top.


im not a fan of stern but there was nothing he could of done here except not let the league control the Hornets

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:39 AM
lol this was the coolest movie when i was a kid

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</P>


hahaha i loved it when I was a kid!! I bought the DVD for like $5 ten years ago lol</P>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 11:42 AM
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bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 11:43 AM
You are not helping the thread by uploading all these gifs. We are going to get more runtime errors.

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 11:44 AM
lol this was the coolest movie when i was a kid

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</P>


hahaha i loved it when I was a kid!! I bought the DVD for like $5 ten years ago lol</P>Kindergarten Cop?-doesn't matter all his movies were great.

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:44 AM
ok enough bball
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dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:46 AM
You are not helping the thread by uploading all these gifs. We are going to get more runtime errors.
stop being a stick in the mud landoooo.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:46 AM
The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.

</P>


holy ****, and you call me scorn!??!
this is so delusional? Lakers would be worse?! are you ****in serious Landon? cmon man...
at minimum, what this does is gives all other teams the chance to make offers. REAL offers. not completely lopsided ones.

EVERYONE knows that the money saved in this deal was just going to be to make a run at Howard and drop Bynum in on the deal. So nobody would need Odom and Pau....it's such a win for Lakers even if they didnt get Howard....</P>




so ****ing what man... what sense does that make.

So if Howard gets traded and extends with the Nets - you'll think this trade should go through? Thats such a jaded and hater way to look at it. JPizz the hater.

You realize Howard is a FREE AGENT next year so if he doesn't extend somewhere HE WILL SIGN WHERE HE WANTS.

Either way this guy is going to go where he wants to go - bottom line. ITs amazing your crying about a GM unloading money. Amazing.
</P>


wow talk about putting words in my mouth. thats like 3 in 1 right there. No i dont think it should go through regardless of where Howard ends up. Howard wants to play for NJ, he said that. I dont feel players should be able to dictate where the play on trades, but whatever, besides the point.

THE POINT, is that the Lakers are robbing the league with that trade.i Dont care how good you THINK the other players are. You think rocket fans give a **** about the players tehy get in this deal? **** no.
You can even take the players out of the equation, and realize that the lakers are making $$$ off the deal too.
So basically, they get the best PG in the league, AND save an assload of money in the trade, and give up guys they havent really wanted the past 2 years anyway....
I'm not a hater....i'm a realist....and that trade is REAL-ly lopsided.</P>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 11:46 AM
You are not helping the thread by uploading all these gifs. We are going to get more runtime errors.
Girls bouncing are only gifs allowed. True Story.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 11:46 AM
And I stand by my comment - Lakers get worse this year if they lose Gasol, Odom 4 CP3. They are doing it to switch **** up and open cap for the future. So suggest its a bull**** move because they free up cap money is stupid. Its good GM'ing. This isn't the original Gasol trade
</p>


Not a chance dude....not a ****ing chance. CP3 makes Bynum THAT much more valuable, and makes Kobe THAT much bigger of a threat. Lakers have never had a PG...and this takes soooooo much pressure off the 2guard when you have someone like Paul.
Instant Finals favorites. THAT'S why Lando is mad.
The lakers dont need a PF/SF like Pau and Odom if they have paul. They can plug in those spots with good options, or ****, even defensive specialists, and be amazing. It's THAT kind of team with a good center, and 2 elite guards.</p>

its a push on Bynum. First off, the guy is never healthy. He may be the most overrated player in the NBA. We'll see how much more value it gives him when hes there now that actually centers can play him not Gasol. He won't just be the left over guy now.

CHRIS PAUL IS A KNICK NEXT YEAR - NO MATTER WHERE HE GOES.

Whose the Lakers starting lineup now? Whose their bench? Not to mention CP3 is a china doll too.

Who gives a **** if it helps them?! Thats what a trade is SUPPOSE to do. If the Rockets and Hornets were getting screwed over in the process, i'd agree with you but bottom line EVERY team gets better. This would be horse**** if roles were reversed and the Hornets get Kobe to add wtih CP.

Bottom line Kevin Martin is a pretty legit player who averages in the 20s, Scola is a servicable big man, and Odom may of been the MVP of the Lakers. Rockets get Gasol which is a top tier talent and I don't get why everybody is forgetting that. The Hornets are getting something out of the impending doom that will come to their franchise.

EVerybody wins. Saying that because the Lakers are doing good things with their tema it shouldn't be allowed is stupid. Its a fair deal bottom line. You can't say its unfair or corrupt. Its completely fair and it will go through at the end of the day

Pizz just hates the NBA, nothing can make him happy. Unless Jordan comes back in his prime. Nothing will ever change his mind and the NBA will always suck.

A trade doesn't get more fair than this. The Lakers have the talent to be able to pull the trade. Don't you think the Hornets have explored every single possible deal they could find? This was the best one that would improve their team the most. Wait until CP3 leaves and they get nothing for him. Then NO will lose it's team because no one will show up to see them play. Then Stern will really feel like a dip****.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:46 AM
lol this was the coolest movie when i was a kid

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</p>


hahaha i loved it when I was a kid!! I bought the DVD for like $5 ten years ago lol</p>Kindergarten Cop?-doesn't matter all his movies were great.

i was actually watching True Lies last night. All I could think of is when Tom Arnold was on howard talking about how coked up he was for that movie. Keeping that in mind, you can COMPLETELY see it. His jaw tweeks and hes all congested the whole movies its pretty funny

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 11:48 AM
they have me on camera
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bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 11:50 AM
The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.

</p>


holy ****, and you call me scorn!??!
this is so delusional? Lakers would be worse?! are you ****in serious Landon? cmon man...
at minimum, what this does is gives all other teams the chance to make offers. REAL offers. not completely lopsided ones.

EVERYONE knows that the money saved in this deal was just going to be to make a run at Howard and drop Bynum in on the deal. So nobody would need Odom and Pau....it's such a win for Lakers even if they didnt get Howard....</p>

so ****ing what man... what sense does that make.

So if Howard gets traded and extends with the Nets - you'll think this trade should go through? Thats such a jaded and hater way to look at it. JPizz the hater.

You realize Howard is a FREE AGENT next year so if he doesn't extend somewhere HE WILL SIGN WHERE HE WANTS.

Either way this guy is going to go where he wants to go - bottom line. ITs amazing your crying about a GM unloading money. Amazing.

Yeah man. I can't even understand where he is coming from.

Pizz, I also don't think we would get Dwight if we got CP3. The Lakers would essentially say we are going to stick with Bynum Kobe and Chris. The Buss family loves Bynum. So do Lakers fans if he can just stay healthy.

You do understand that these 2 are free to sign with whoever they want next year right? You saw what happened with Melo last year right? Teams don't want to do that.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:50 AM
Kindergarten Cop?-doesn't matter all his movies were great.</P>


"last action hero"</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 11:52 AM
Pau trade turned out alot better - but do not stick up for it.

Why not? lol

The Grizz knew exactly what they were doing and so did the Lakers. That trade turned around the Memphis franchise.

The Lakers are just trying to help the NBA. We are facilitators of all this wonderful.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:53 AM
ok enough bball
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yea lets go back to hearing for how you think THE DONALD could help this country

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bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 11:53 AM
You are not helping the thread by uploading all these gifs. We are going to get more runtime errors.
stop being a stick in the mud landoooo.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them all and they are funny as ****. I'm just sayin, facts are facts.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:57 AM
Matt you think Paul leaves LA for NY if he gets traded there? Cuz that's like the opposite of what everyone else in the NBA is sayin...

and yea, im sorry if you think the NBA is awesome, but uhh....idk if it can rebound. I thought things were going up from here after the Lebron debacle...but, after last night, I really doubt it....like, ever...</P>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 11:57 AM
lol this was the coolest movie when i was a kid

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</p>


hahaha i loved it when I was a kid!! I bought the DVD for like $5 ten years ago lol</p>Kindergarten Cop?-doesn't matter all his movies were great.

i was actually watching True Lies last night. All I could think of is when Tom Arnold was on howard talking about how coked up he was for that movie. Keeping that in mind, you can COMPLETELY see it. His jaw tweeks and hes all congested the whole movies its pretty funny
True lies was good, Jaimie lee Curtis---Was Tom Arnold on the coke or Arnold? Probably Tom.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 11:58 AM
lunch....back in a bit

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 11:58 AM
The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.

</p>


holy ****, and you call me scorn!??!
this is so delusional? Lakers would be worse?! are you ****in serious Landon? cmon man...
at minimum, what this does is gives all other teams the chance to make offers. REAL offers. not completely lopsided ones.

EVERYONE knows that the money saved in this deal was just going to be to make a run at Howard and drop Bynum in on the deal. So nobody would need Odom and Pau....it's such a win for Lakers even if they didnt get Howard....</p>




so ****ing what man... what sense does that make.

So if Howard gets traded and extends with the Nets - you'll think this trade should go through? Thats such a jaded and hater way to look at it. JPizz the hater.

You realize Howard is a FREE AGENT next year so if he doesn't extend somewhere HE WILL SIGN WHERE HE WANTS.

Either way this guy is going to go where he wants to go - bottom line. ITs amazing your crying about a GM unloading money. Amazing.
</p>


wow talk about putting words in my mouth. thats like 3 in 1 right there. No i dont think it should go through regardless of where Howard ends up. Howard wants to play for NJ, he said that. I dont feel players should be able to dictate where the play on trades, but whatever, besides the point.

THE POINT, is that the Lakers are robbing the league with that trade.i Dont care how good you THINK the other players are. You think rocket fans give a **** about the players tehy get in this deal? **** no.
You can even take the players out of the equation, and realize that the lakers are making $$$ off the deal too.
So basically, they get the best PG in the league, AND save an assload of money in the trade, and give up guys they havent really wanted the past 2 years anyway....
I'm not a hater....i'm a realist....and that trade is REAL-ly lopsided.</p>

i fail how to see how i put any words in your mouth. You clearly said that its unfair because the lakers would free cap money up so they can sign Howard and that its unfair.

The rockets? I think the Rockets are VERY happy in getting Pau Gasol for Scola and KMart.

Thats what the move is for the Lakers essentially, a cap move. I dont think the lakers are a better team overall gettin Paul. I feel like i'm having the Nnamdi and Eagles preseason football debate again. Sorry but a good PG, SG, and SF are a dime a dozen in the NBA.

I mean you argument isn't clear except that its bull**** that the Lakers are trying to make cap moves. Arte you against cap moves being made?

Your not a realist. They may be getting the best PG in the league, but it'll only be for a year and they were a better TEAM (KEYWORD TEAM) before this trade.

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 11:58 AM
they have me on camera
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lol

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 11:59 AM
Kindergarten Cop?-doesn't matter all his movies were great.</P>


"last action hero"</P>Ok, that was a flop. Not many though.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 12:00 PM
Matt you think Paul leaves LA for NY if he gets traded there? Cuz that's like the opposite of what everyone else in the NBA is sayin...

and yea, im sorry if you think the NBA is awesome, but uhh....idk if it can rebound. I thought things were going up from here after the Lebron debacle...but, after last night, I really doubt it....like, ever...</p>
LOL, I predicted the future 10 minutes ago. lol

Pizz just hates the NBA, nothing can make him happy. Unless Jordan comes
back in his prime. Nothing will ever change his mind and the NBA will
always suck.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 12:01 PM
And I stand by my comment - Lakers get worse this year if they lose Gasol, Odom 4 CP3. They are doing it to switch **** up and open cap for the future. So suggest its a bull**** move because they free up cap money is stupid. Its good GM'ing. This isn't the original Gasol trade
</p>


Not a chance dude....not a ****ing chance. CP3 makes Bynum THAT much more valuable, and makes Kobe THAT much bigger of a threat. Lakers have never had a PG...and this takes soooooo much pressure off the 2guard when you have someone like Paul.
Instant Finals favorites. THAT'S why Lando is mad.
The lakers dont need a PF/SF like Pau and Odom if they have paul. They can plug in those spots with good options, or ****, even defensive specialists, and be amazing. It's THAT kind of team with a good center, and 2 elite guards.</p>

its a push on Bynum. First off, the guy is never healthy. He may be the most overrated player in the NBA. We'll see how much more value it gives him when hes there now that actually centers can play him not Gasol. He won't just be the left over guy now.

CHRIS PAUL IS A KNICK NEXT YEAR - NO MATTER WHERE HE GOES.

Whose the Lakers starting lineup now? Whose their bench? Not to mention CP3 is a china doll too.

Who gives a **** if it helps them?! Thats what a trade is SUPPOSE to do. If the Rockets and Hornets were getting screwed over in the process, i'd agree with you but bottom line EVERY team gets better. This would be horse**** if roles were reversed and the Hornets get Kobe to add wtih CP.

Bottom line Kevin Martin is a pretty legit player who averages in the 20s, Scola is a servicable big man, and Odom may of been the MVP of the Lakers. Rockets get Gasol which is a top tier talent and I don't get why everybody is forgetting that. The Hornets are getting something out of the impending doom that will come to their franchise.

EVerybody wins. Saying that because the Lakers are doing good things with their tema it shouldn't be allowed is stupid. Its a fair deal bottom line. You can't say its unfair or corrupt. Its completely fair and it will go through at the end of the day

Pizz just hates the NBA, nothing can make him happy. Unless Jordan comes back in his prime. Nothing will ever change his mind and the NBA will always suck.

A trade doesn't get more fair than this. The Lakers have the talent to be able to pull the trade. Don't you think the Hornets have explored every single possible deal they could find? This was the best one that would improve their team the most. Wait until CP3 leaves and they get nothing for him. Then NO will lose it's team because no one will show up to see them play. Then Stern will really feel like a dip****.


i just dont' get the premis of how the Lakers are ripping off the league - it makes no sense. So they get a good player for a year and are cutting cap, but are a worse overall team. That somehow makes this deal awful bull****

don't even sweat it Lando, this trade will go through. Well actually, sweat it - i dont think this is a good move for you for this year. If your telling me that you have no big FAs upcoming in the next few years then this is a stupid trade for u.

I guess your playing for Howard and thats fine, but theres a good chance that backfires on you and next year you go into a season without Howard, CP3, Gasol, and Odom and an aged Kobe with a bad coach.

Lakers are self destructing. Anybody thinking they are pulling one over is just reading headlines (pizz)

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 12:04 PM
Matt you think Paul leaves LA for NY if he gets traded there? Cuz that's like the opposite of what everyone else in the NBA is sayin...

and yea, im sorry if you think the NBA is awesome, but uhh....idk if it can rebound. I thought things were going up from here after the Lebron debacle...but, after last night, I really doubt it....like, ever...</p>

i think either way is fine, but if they give Paul the contract then theres no money for Howard.

I think Paul is a NYers no matter what next year. Kobe is at the end of the rope. I mean hes still great, but hes not what he was. They just lost their biggest role player and second best player Lakers are hurting.

Lakers are hoping they can talk CP into a deal, but theres no guarantees. There is a STRONG possibility that Lakers go into next year without CP3, Howard, Gasol, and Odom - and thats a beautiful thing

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 12:06 PM
lol this was the coolest movie when i was a kid

<div align="center">http://www.animateit.net/data/media/june2010/arnold2_3.gif (./details.php?image_id=4741)</div>



</p>


hahaha i loved it when I was a kid!! I bought the DVD for like $5 ten years ago lol</p>Kindergarten Cop?-doesn't matter all his movies were great.

i was actually watching True Lies last night. All I could think of is when Tom Arnold was on howard talking about how coked up he was for that movie. Keeping that in mind, you can COMPLETELY see it. His jaw tweeks and hes all congested the whole movies its pretty funny
True lies was good, Jaimie lee Curtis---Was Tom Arnold on the coke or Arnold? Probably Tom.

Tom Arnold... he has some close ups where he talks and then his jaw shivers side to side lol... pretty funny

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 12:08 PM
Matt you think Paul leaves LA for NY if he gets traded there? Cuz that's like the opposite of what everyone else in the NBA is sayin...

and yea, im sorry if you think the NBA is awesome, but uhh....idk if it can rebound. I thought things were going up from here after the Lebron debacle...but, after last night, I really doubt it....like, ever...</p>
LOL, I predicted the future 10 minutes ago. lol

Pizz just hates the NBA, nothing can make him happy. Unless Jordan comes
back in his prime. Nothing will ever change his mind and the NBA will
always suck.


the sick part is that it has dramatically gone up since the lebron debacle. Players are actually giving the teams they are leaving a chance to not be left in the wind like the Cavs were. I think this is a great thing for the NBA.

Even better that the Lakers are basically playing for 2012.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 12:12 PM
Lakers are hoping they can talk CP into a deal, but theres no guarantees. There is a STRONG possibility that Lakers go into next year without CP3, Howard, Gasol, and Odom - and thats a beautiful thing

You are trippin if you think CP3 won't sign in LA. The Lakers would not have given up that much without a secret agreement from CP3 to resign. We are not the Nets. Also why would CP3 be sooooo upset if he didn't plan on resigning. He knows he can go wherever he wants next year so why would he care. Unless it's just to get out of NO but I doubt he hates it that bad.

That last sentence is scary. lol Good thing it won't happen.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 12:16 PM
Lakers are hoping they can talk CP into a deal, but theres no guarantees. There is a STRONG possibility that Lakers go into next year without CP3, Howard, Gasol, and Odom - and thats a beautiful thing

You are trippin if you think CP3 won't sign in LA. The Lakers would not have given up that much without a secret agreement from CP3 to resign. We are not the Nets. Also why would CP3 be sooooo upset if he didn't plan on resigning. He knows he can go wherever he wants next year so why would he care. Unless it's just to get out of NO but I doubt he hates it that bad.

That last sentence is scary. lol Good thing it won't happen.


yea they would. Gasol had to go, too much **** there with him and Kobe. Plus even if CP doesn't work out they just unloaded a **** load in cap.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 12:50 PM
<div class="report">


The Magic are preparing to file tampering
charges against two other teams for illegal contact with Dwight Howard,
according to David Aldridge.</p>
</div>

The hits just keep coming. The two teams are
rumored to be the Rockets and Nets -- Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov is
said to have met with Howard on Thursday.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 12:55 PM
<div class="report">


The Magic are preparing to file tampering
charges against two other teams for illegal contact with Dwight Howard,
according to David Aldridge.</p>
</div>

The hits just keep coming. The two teams are
rumored to be the Rockets and Nets -- Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov is
said to have met with Howard on Thursday.

lol dirty russian

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 01:06 PM
<div class="report">


Christian Ponder (hip) returned to practice on Friday.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Backup Joe Webb is still handling the bulk of
the first-team reps in the media-access portion of practice. Per beat
writer Tom Pelissero, the "best guess right now" is that Webb will start
against the Lions. Check back later in the day for an update on
Ponder's status.
</div>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 01:06 PM
<div class="report">


The Nets are "closing in" on a contract with Nene.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The team reportedly increased the offer to Nene
last night, and it sounds like it's possible a deal may get done soon.
Considering how fast and furious rumors are flying, there's also a
chance a deal doesn't get done at all. Clearly, New Jersey is clearly
being aggressive in its approach to improve.
</div>

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 01:08 PM
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/DE-Justin-Tuck/5556f693-f5e7-4131-8244-30dc3e95c140


lol tucks the man.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 01:09 PM
<div class="report">


As Brandon Roy contemplates retiring from basketball, an ominous quote emerged via Joe Freeman on Twitter.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
A source said that Roy met with doctors on
Thursday and was told after his knee evaluation: "You can't do this. You
might end up not walking." Roy is said to be very emotional and it's
doubtful he'll meet with the media today. It sounds like his career is
over, although we're still awaiting for it to become official. Another
sad story in a generally sad day as training camps open and free agency
starts.


Terribly sad, I have always liked this guy and he's a great player. I guess was...The Blazers have terrible luck.
</div>

Morehead State
12-09-2011, 01:13 PM
<DIV class=report>


Christian Ponder (hip) returned to practice on Friday.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>Backup Joe Webb is still handling the bulk of the first-team reps in the media-access portion of practice. Per beat writer Tom Pelissero, the "best guess right now" is that Webb will start against the Lions. Check back later in the day for an update on Ponder's status. </DIV>


</P>


Thank God!</P>

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 01:21 PM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/390316_10151035419395061_137025225060_21980359_980 225095_n.jpg
the crooked forest in poland

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 01:22 PM
From Michael Wilbon:



Unless the appeal filed by the teams (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7335040/teams-blocked-chris-paul-trade-appealing-nba-sources-say)
involved in Thursday's proposed trade (or a lawsuit reportedly being
considered by Paul) reverses the decision, the league now apparently
will allow free agency only as long as enough players to its liking are
willing to sign up to play in Portland, New Orleans, Charlotte, Salt
Lake City, Milwaukee, etc. You think Stern would have stopped this trade
had Paul been dealt for essentially the same package to, oh, Indiana?
Or Memphis? Or Oklahoma City? There isn't a chance in hell.</p>

But
what stopping this trade does is prevent New Orleans from getting
players who can help that small-market franchise not only recover, but
move on. Odom is one of the most versatile frontcourt players in the
NBA. Scola averaged 18 points and eight rebounds per game last season.
Martin can get you 20 points a night. Dragic is a suitable backup.
What's wrong with this deal? Nothing, except the Lakers made it. This
isn't a heist; it's a deal that's easy to defend if you're looking at it
from the Hornets' viewpoint. What's more, executives from the Lakers
and executives from the Hornets made it. Club officials.</p>

Problem is, there are owners like Cleveland's Dan Gilbert, still whining like a 2-year-old over the departure of LeBron James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james), who want some sort of guarantee that small-market teams will get their share of free agents.</p>

We're sure to hear about a conflict of interest, what with the Hornets
being run by the league and dealing a great player to Los Angeles. So,
it would be OK for the NBA to trade Paul to a dreadful team, say the
Timberwolves? The NBA knew there could be the appearance of a conflict
when it made the decision to run the Hornets. Why should Paul play in
New Orleans indefinitely? Because management there was incompetent,
which it was? Because the Knicks -- talk about the pot calling the
kettle black -- don't like the trade? Since when do owners not involved
with a trade get to lobby against it? Where in the NBA rules does it say
other clubs get to whine that the Lakers will be too good again? And
who stands up to them and says, "Hey you MORONS, it's quite possible the
Hornets made a good deal here."</p>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 01:26 PM
Am I in thee right place? "Thee NYG Swag Thread"

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 01:29 PM
did you know kansas city isnt in kansas? who would of thunk?

DavenIII
12-09-2011, 01:34 PM
You are not helping the thread by uploading all these gifs. We are going to get more runtime errors.
Girls bouncing are only gifs allowed. True Story.

REQUEST GRANTED

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/1269040856834.gif

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 01:38 PM
<DIV class=report>


As Brandon Roy contemplates retiring from basketball, an ominous quote emerged via Joe Freeman on Twitter.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>A source said that Roy met with doctors on Thursday and was told after his knee evaluation: "You can't do this. You might end up not walking." Roy is said to be very emotional and it's doubtful he'll meet with the media today. It sounds like his career is over, although we're still awaiting for it to become official. Another sad story in a generally sad day as training camps open and free agency starts.


Terribly sad, I have always liked this guy and he's a great player. I guess was...The Blazers have terrible luck.
</DIV>


</P>


wow that really sucks......the writing was kind of on the wall....poor guy =\</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 01:39 PM
<div class="report">


The Nets are "closing in" on a contract with Nene.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
The team reportedly increased the offer to Nene
last night, and it sounds like it's possible a deal may get done soon.
Considering how fast and furious rumors are flying, there's also a
chance a deal doesn't get done at all. Clearly, New Jersey is clearly
being aggressive in its approach to improve.
</div>

just went home for lunch and watched sportscenter. They seem pretty hell bent that a deal may get done today for Howard.

Nene at PF?

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 01:40 PM
<div class="report">


Christian Ponder (hip) returned to practice on Friday.</p></div>
<div class="impact">Backup Joe Webb is still handling the bulk of the first-team reps in the media-access portion of practice. Per beat writer Tom Pelissero, the "best guess right now" is that Webb will start against the Lions. Check back later in the day for an update on Ponder's status. </div>


</p>


Thank God!</p>

u should be happy about that

it actually takes confidence away from me

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 01:42 PM
From Michael Wilbon:



Unless the appeal filed by the teams (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7335040/teams-blocked-chris-paul-trade-appealing-nba-sources-say)
involved in Thursday's proposed trade (or a lawsuit reportedly being
considered by Paul) reverses the decision, the league now apparently
will allow free agency only as long as enough players to its liking are
willing to sign up to play in Portland, New Orleans, Charlotte, Salt
Lake City, Milwaukee, etc. You think Stern would have stopped this trade
had Paul been dealt for essentially the same package to, oh, Indiana?
Or Memphis? Or Oklahoma City? There isn't a chance in hell.</p>

But
what stopping this trade does is prevent New Orleans from getting
players who can help that small-market franchise not only recover, but
move on. Odom is one of the most versatile frontcourt players in the
NBA. Scola averaged 18 points and eight rebounds per game last season.
Martin can get you 20 points a night. Dragic is a suitable backup.
What's wrong with this deal? Nothing, except the Lakers made it. This
isn't a heist; it's a deal that's easy to defend if you're looking at it
from the Hornets' viewpoint. What's more, executives from the Lakers
and executives from the Hornets made it. Club officials.</p>

Problem is, there are owners like Cleveland's Dan Gilbert, still whining like a 2-year-old over the departure of LeBron James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james), who want some sort of guarantee that small-market teams will get their share of free agents.</p>

We're sure to hear about a conflict of interest, what with the Hornets
being run by the league and dealing a great player to Los Angeles. So,
it would be OK for the NBA to trade Paul to a dreadful team, say the
Timberwolves? The NBA knew there could be the appearance of a conflict
when it made the decision to run the Hornets. Why should Paul play in
New Orleans indefinitely? Because management there was incompetent,
which it was? Because the Knicks -- talk about the pot calling the
kettle black -- don't like the trade? Since when do owners not involved
with a trade get to lobby against it? Where in the NBA rules does it say
other clubs get to whine that the Lakers will be too good again? And
who stands up to them and says, "Hey you MORONS, it's quite possible the
Hornets made a good deal here."</p>

haha WIlbon! Thats exactly what I say!

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 01:45 PM
<DIV class=report>


The Nets are "closing in" on a contract with Nene.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>The team reportedly increased the offer to Nene last night, and it sounds like it's possible a deal may get done soon. Considering how fast and furious rumors are flying, there's also a chance a deal doesn't get done at all. Clearly, New Jersey is clearly being aggressive in its approach to improve. </DIV>




just went home for lunch and watched sportscenter. They seem pretty hell bent that a deal may get done today for Howard.

Nene at PF?
</P>


I like Nene....but, that may be because I think it's awesome when Brazilians go by only 1 name. lol</P>


Nene HILARIO! that name is funny....arguably HILARIOus.
-___-</P>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 01:49 PM
You are not helping the thread by uploading all these gifs. We are going to get more runtime errors.
Girls bouncing are only gifs allowed. True Story.

REQUEST GRANTED

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oh dam!!

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 01:49 PM
Bill Simmons:

Fact: Of the three teams involved, New Orleans made out the best.
Repeat: the best. By my calculations, it landed one of the better
offensive big men in basketball (Luis Scola), one of the better scoring
2-guards in basketball (Kevin Martin), a playoff-proven forward who can
play either spot (Lamar Odom), a scoring point guard with upside (Goran
Dragic), and a 2012 no. 1 pick (via the New York Knicks). Can you do
better for someone who was leaving in seven months anyway? I hate
trading superstars, but if you HAVE to trade a superstar? That's pretty
good.

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 01:51 PM
<DIV class=report>


The Nets are "closing in" on a contract with Nene.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>The team reportedly increased the offer to Nene last night, and it sounds like it's possible a deal may get done soon. Considering how fast and furious rumors are flying, there's also a chance a deal doesn't get done at all. Clearly, New Jersey is clearly being aggressive in its approach to improve. </DIV>




just went home for lunch and watched sportscenter. They seem pretty hell bent that a deal may get done today for Howard.

Nene at PF?
</P>


I like Nene....but, that may be because I think it's awesome when Brazilians go by only 1 name. lol</P>


Nene HILARIO! that name is funny....arguably HILARIOus.
-___-</P>Speaking of Brazillians....I think this kid knows Pizz :P

Justin-I know you can't see this @ work, gotta check it out when you get home.

http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-entrepreneurship.jpg

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 01:52 PM
LMFAO - from the same article

Was it the worst moment of David Stern's entire tenure? I never thought
anything would top an official fixing games, but man … how can anything
be worse than this? I<font size="6">magine this happened in your fantasy league</font>.
Imagine spending weeks shaping a deal, executing it, then having your
commissioner waltz in and say, "Nah, I'm vetoing that one." Would that
ever happen? And now this is happening in a PROFESSIONAL SPORTS LEAGUE?


http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7334835/the-sixth-day-nba-christmas

dezzzR
12-09-2011, 01:55 PM
<div class="report">


The Nets are "closing in" on a contract with Nene.</p></div>
<div class="impact">The team reportedly increased the offer to Nene last night, and it sounds like it's possible a deal may get done soon. Considering how fast and furious rumors are flying, there's also a chance a deal doesn't get done at all. Clearly, New Jersey is clearly being aggressive in its approach to improve. </div>




just went home for lunch and watched sportscenter. They seem pretty hell bent that a deal may get done today for Howard.

Nene at PF?
</p>


I like Nene....but, that may be because I think it's awesome when Brazilians go by only 1 name. lol</p>


Nene HILARIO! that name is funny....arguably HILARIOus.
-___-</p>Speaking of Brazillians....I think this kid knows Pizz :P

Justin-I know you can't see this @ work, gotta check it out when you get home.

http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-entrepreneurship.jpglol 50 for pizzle.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 01:59 PM
<div class="report">


David Stern released a statement about the
vetoed Chris Paul trade on Friday, which read in part, "the
Commissioner’s Office ... decided, free from the influence of other NBA
owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets
uniform."</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"All decisions are made on the basis of what is
in the best interests of the Hornets," Stern wrote. There will be no
petition to overturn the veto because the league office does in fact
have the authority to make the decision, even if it reeks of the league
pandering to a certain group of owners. Chris Paul is considering his
legal options and there is serious concern over how New Orleans can
trade him after this mess. It's possible that a new owner for the team
will be announced soon, but right now all bets are off.


This is suuuuuuuuuuuuuch BULL****. I am still in shock...
</div>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 02:01 PM
<div class="report">


The Nets are "closing in" on a contract with Nene.</p></div>
<div class="impact">The team reportedly increased the offer to Nene last night, and it sounds like it's possible a deal may get done soon. Considering how fast and furious rumors are flying, there's also a chance a deal doesn't get done at all. Clearly, New Jersey is clearly being aggressive in its approach to improve. </div>




just went home for lunch and watched sportscenter. They seem pretty hell bent that a deal may get done today for Howard.

Nene at PF?
</p>


I like Nene....but, that may be because I think it's awesome when Brazilians go by only 1 name. lol</p>


Nene HILARIO! that name is funny....arguably HILARIOus.
-___-</p>Speaking of Brazillians....I think this kid knows Pizz :P

Justin-I know you can't see this @ work, gotta check it out when you get home.

http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-entrepreneurship.jpglol 50 for pizzle.


this is a picutre of a young pre-corrupted dezzz..

Some would say it was the start of the obsession with women - which lead to the hookers - then one fatal slip of the scissors #1 happened for the long island killer. He then got a taste for it

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 02:02 PM
<div class="report">


David Stern released a statement about the
vetoed Chris Paul trade on Friday, which read in part, "the
Commissioner’s Office ... decided, free from the influence of other NBA
owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets
uniform."</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"All decisions are made on the basis of what is
in the best interests of the Hornets," Stern wrote. There will be no
petition to overturn the veto because the league office does in fact
have the authority to make the decision, even if it reeks of the league
pandering to a certain group of owners. Chris Paul is considering his
legal options and there is serious concern over how New Orleans can
trade him after this mess. It's possible that a new owner for the team
will be announced soon, but right now all bets are off.


This is suuuuuuuuuuuuuch BULL****. I am still in shock...
</div>

lawsuit time

this is going to ge tugly. Go read the Simmons article - ****in GREAT

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 02:07 PM
=\ what is it??

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 02:08 PM
Bill Simmons:

Fact: Of the three teams involved, New Orleans made out the best.
Repeat: the best. By my calculations, it landed one of the better
offensive big men in basketball (Luis Scola), one of the better scoring
2-guards in basketball (Kevin Martin), a playoff-proven forward who can
play either spot (Lamar Odom), a scoring point guard with upside (Goran
Dragic), and a 2012 no. 1 pick (via the New York Knicks). Can you do
better for someone who was leaving in seven months anyway? I hate
trading superstars, but if you HAVE to trade a superstar? That's pretty
good.

Wow man!!! It's so pathetic. I want to see Pizz respond to this and even better I would like to see David Sterns response to this. How in Gods name can this be revoked. I really hope it still goes through somehow. CP3 is going to sue the league.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 02:11 PM
<div class="report">


David Stern released a statement about the
vetoed Chris Paul trade on Friday, which read in part, "the
Commissioner’s Office ... decided, free from the influence of other NBA
owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets
uniform."</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"All decisions are made on the basis of what is
in the best interests of the Hornets," Stern wrote. There will be no
petition to overturn the veto because the league office does in fact
have the authority to make the decision, even if it reeks of the league
pandering to a certain group of owners. Chris Paul is considering his
legal options and there is serious concern over how New Orleans can
trade him after this mess. It's possible that a new owner for the team
will be announced soon, but right now all bets are off.


This is suuuuuuuuuuuuuch BULL****. I am still in shock...
</div>

lawsuit time

this is going to ge tugly. Go read the Simmons article - ****in GREAT

Copy and paste it in here. His URL is blocked at my work. I can't read any of his stuff and I always forget at home. Pisses me off.

Then again it will just make me more bitter and angry! FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!! We had CP3 man.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 02:16 PM
LMFAO - from the same article

Was it the worst moment of David Stern's entire tenure? I never thought
anything would top an official fixing games, but man … how can anything
be worse than this? I<font size="6">magine this happened in your fantasy league</font>.
Imagine spending weeks shaping a deal, executing it, then having your
commissioner waltz in and say, "Nah, I'm vetoing that one." Would that
ever happen? And now this is happening in a PROFESSIONAL SPORTS LEAGUE?


http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7334835/the-sixth-day-nba-christmas

LOL, that is hilarious man. I love Bill Simmons. I really do. So does Pizz. He writes some of the best stuff I have ever read. Especially when he gets bitter about Superbowl 42. I love it.

It's Grantland. Ever since he got his own **** I can't read it here. ****ers

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 02:18 PM
Note: This could end up being one of the craziest months in NBA
history. To celebrate the signings, trades, rumors, roster shuffling,
insanity and (almost definitely) ensuing hilarity/incompetence, I have
unleashed a special series called "The 12 Days of NBA Christmas." Every
weekday through December 19 (give or take a day), I will be writing
about this unexpected NBA Christmas.</p>


Day 1: The Road to Groundhog Day (and more dumb contracts than ever) (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7307298/the-first-day-nba-christmas)

Day 2: The Donut Dilemma (the bubble in the center market) (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7319695/the-second-day-nba-christmas)

Day 3: Is Arron Afflalo really worth $50 million? (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7323610/the-third-day-nba-christmas)

Day 4: Where the hell is Chris Paul going? (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7327616/the-fourth-day-nba-christmas)

Day 5: Inside Grantland Featuring Blake Griffin, Part II (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7328384/inside-grantland-featuring-blake-griffin-part-ii)

Day 6: (12/9) The Day the NBA Lost Its Way</p>


Norm MacDonald's Comedy Central show may not have lasted long, but it
left behind my favorite two-word phrase of 2011: "Wait, what?" The bit
went like this: Norm would read a completely insane story with a totally
straight face, milk it for a beat, then do a double-take and scream,
"Wait, what???" It always slayed me.</p>


See, life is full of those "Wait, what???" moments … you know, like
yesterday, right after the Lakers pulled off a three-team trade for
Chris Paul, when everyone was still digesting that stunning news through
phone calls, e-mails and tweets. I had just tweeted a joke about coming
to grips with my favorite point guard — Paul, a true artist, maybe the
best pure point guard who ever lived — playing across the street from my
office, for the team I hate the most, ultimately deciding that I just
needed to get drunk. Not even a minute later, my cell phone rang. A
friend of mine was on the line. He's never steered me wrong. And now, he
was about to put me into a freaking stupor.</p>


"The trade's off! The NBA vetoed the trade!!!"</p>


Wait, what?</p>


"The NBA vetoed the trade! They said it wasn't in the best interests of the league."</p>


WAIT, WHAT?</p>


"You heard me. They said it wasn't in the best interests in the league. Chris has to play out the year in New Orleans."</p>


You know the rest. One of the strangest things about loving sports:
Those random moments when you're sitting in your house, your office,
your classroom, wherever … and suddenly you get blown away by a
legitimate bombshell. This was crazy. This was insane. This made no
sense. By blocking the trade, David Stern was willingly creating his own
Watergate and validating every critic who ever claimed, "That guy
stayed too long." Tim Donaghy was just one guy acting alone — we think —
and tampering with dozens of games before they caught him. Blocking the
Paul trade? This was different. This was Big Brother stuff. This was
one of the biggest conflicts of interest in sports history. This was a
league intentionally jeopardizing its own credibility. This was a
scandal popping out of thin air, self-created, almost like a man-made
lake or something.</p>


These are the facts: Twelve months ago, the NBA bought the New
Orleans Hornets for a little more than $300 million. Every other owner
(29 in all) split the price for the franchise, the same way you'd split a
meal 12 ways for your buddy's birthday or something. Stern and his
cronies claimed this wouldn't be a problem, that Hornets GM Dell Demps
would be able to swing moves just like any other general manager. When Mark Cuban flipped out in February (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/24/mark-cuban-rips-nba-hornets-kings_n_827700.html)
after a Carl Landry/Marcus Thornton swap caused New Orleans' payroll to
rise, nobody really cared. When the lockout dragged on for five months
and nobody ever seriously considered contracting the Hornets — a
franchise that lost money AND couldn't find an owner — nobody really
cared. When the Hornets stole the spotlight after the labor agreement by
immediately being involved in 50,000 different trade rumors, nobody
really cared. We all assumed things were "on the level."</p>


And why not? We had no reason to think differently … right? The
league made a point of saying that Demps had been empowered to make any
trade (without interference). Every team dealing with New Orleans
believed that Demps was in charge — without any question — and that they
weren't wasting their time spending their days batting around ideas
with him. On Wednesday morning, when I was working on my column about
Paul trades, I sniffed around on Stern's role in the trade talks and got
the same answer from different people: It's Dell Demps' call. I
ended up joking in that column that Stern might block a Clippers/Paul
trade to avoid having Donald Sterling own one of the league's signature
franchises. Everyone read that and got the joke.</p>


I mean, Stern wouldn't actually BLOCK a trade. That's preposterous. Right?</p>


Fast-forward to Thursday night: Those first few minutes after word
spread (not only that the trade was canceled, but that Paul would
probably remain in New Orleans for the entire season), as everyone came
to the same sobering conclusion. The old man finally lost his mind.
Sure, he was pushed there by a cluster of bitter owners, but the old
Stern never would have rolled over like that. Twenty years ago, 10 years
ago, maybe even five years ago, Stern would have brushed them off in
his endearingly condescending way, quelled the fire, called in a favor
or two, acted like the politician he always secretly was. Not this time.
The old man doesn't have the same sway. We just witnessed it during
that lockout. Few people understood how much time and effort he spent
pushing his holdout owners toward that final compromise. He barely got
there.</p>


If you want to know the truth, Stern started losing control of the
league during the middle of last decade, when a new generation of
wealthy billionaires started paying full boat for franchises. The days
of Abe Pollin and Bill Davidson were long gone — family guys who bought
in early, stuck with their investments and watched their league flourish
into something much bigger than they ever expected. Stern's favorite
owner was Larry Miller, a dynamic Salt Lake City businessman and
philanthropist who bought the J*** in 1985, then ran the franchise with
his family for the next 24 years. A year after diabetes claimed Miller
in May of 2009, Stern met the press before a playoff game and spoke
earnestly about his affection for Miller. Someone asked the commissioner
about Jerry Sloan's longevity. At the time, Sloan was still coaching
the J*** at 67 years old, six months older than Stern.</p>


"We're a dying breed," Stern admitted. "It's not happening anymore.
But it sure is reassuring to look there and expect to see him, and darn,
he's there. It's kind of neat."</p>


That's probably how Stern thought people saw him. Or, how he hoped
people saw him. And in some cases (like with me), it was true. Little
did he know that Sloan was losing control of his players — in 2011, an
ongoing clash with star Deron Williams caused Sloan to resign — just
like Stern was slowly losing control of his owners. The newer generation
of guys wasn't indebted to him. They found him to be increasingly
obstinate, stuck in his ways, more of a condescending bully than
anything. After paying full sticker price for their teams, they weren't
interested in answering to some aging know-it-all. Stern's control
slowly started to erode, whether he realized it or not.</p>


Leaders thrive when they feel creatively empowered, when they trust
the people around them, when their confidence is swelling. Leaders make
mistakes when they lose that same confidence, when they're fretting
about their power base, when they're reacting instead of acting. The
worst kind of leaders hang on too long, get seduced by their own voice,
start doing things from memory — because that's the way we've always done it!
— stop thinking outside the box, start playing checkers instead of
chess. Stern reached that point last night. I think he caved because of
the whining owners, but also out of exasperation: because yet another
superstar was trying to push his way to another big city, because he's
in charge, because THIS IS DAVID STERN'S LEAGUE. It's like the old Will
Ferrell/Dodge Stratus SNL sketch:</p>


You don't talk to me like that! I'm David Stern! I make the rules
here! You don't get to pick your team, I do! I'm the commissioner of the
NBA! I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS!!!!!</p>


Fact: That trade was totally, undeniably, 100 percent defensible.</p>


Fact: Of the three teams involved, New Orleans made out the best.
Repeat: the best. By my calculations, it landed one of the better
offensive big men in basketball (Luis Scola), one of the better scoring
2-guards in basketball (Kevin Martin), a playoff-proven forward who can
play either spot (Lamar Odom), a scoring point guard with upside (Goran
Dragic), and a 2012 no. 1 pick (via the New York Knicks). Can you do
better for someone who was leaving in seven months anyway? I hate
trading superstars, but if you HAVE to trade a superstar? That's pretty
good.</p>


Meanwhile, the Rockets spent the past three years stashing enough
pieces to make that trade: Acquiring the second-best center in
basketball (Gasol) while leaving enough cap room to sign a marquee free
agent (and yes, they were closing in on Nene). And the Lakers paid the
steepest price: giving up their best low-post guy and all of their
frontcourt depth, giving Andrew Bynum an immense amount of
responsibility (you know, the same guy who stormed off the court
half-naked during the playoff sweep last spring) and reinventing their
team around Paul's aching knee and Kobe's aching knees. It would have
been a brilliant move had it worked and a legendary disaster had it
failed — especially if Kobe rebelled against sharing the ball with Paul —
only now we'll never know.</p>


Once word leaked of the deal, rival owners started rebelling almost
immediately. What was the point of that lockout, and all the talk of
competitive balance, if the Lakers were allowed to immediately acquire
Chris Paul? Dan Gilbert sent a scathing e-mail to a few of the other
owners that, of course, was leaked on the Internet last night.</p>


The best part of the letter: "This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets."</p>


(Translation: "Let's cut Demps' balls off, throw the last few weeks
of negotiating out the window and go back on our word. Also, I'm
thinking of starting a support group for small-market owners who
overpaid for their teams, don't have the balls to sell and would rather
whine, ***** and bully about their lot in NBA life. I'm going to call it
O.A.: Overpayers Anonymous.")</p>


The second-best part of the letter: "I just don't see how we can
allow this trade to happen. I know the vast majority of owners feel the
same way that I do. When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30
teams to the Washington Generals?"</p>


(Translation: Boooooooo hooooooo.)</p>


There it was, in all its Comic Sans MS glory, that whopping conflict
of interest that had been staring at everyone for 12 solid months. How can a league own one of its own franchises? What happens if it has to, you know, make important trades and stuff?
The league always knew that, at some point, the Hornets might have to
trade Chris Paul. They claimed they had a plan in place. And they did.
Until O.A. started *****ing with even more fervor than usual. That's
when Stern's eroding power finally sank him. Instead of backing a
decision he had already made, Stern choked like Nick Anderson. The
unthinkable happened.</p>


He blocked the trade.</p>


Wait, what?</p>


Was it the worst moment of David Stern's entire tenure? I never
thought anything would top an official fixing games, but man … how can
anything be worse than this? Imagine this happened in your fantasy
league. Imagine spending weeks shaping a deal, executing it, then having
your commissioner waltz in and say, "Nah, I'm vetoing that one." Would
that ever happen? And now this is happening in a PROFESSIONAL SPORTS
LEAGUE?</p>


Just know that I'm a die-hard Celtics fan and die-hard Lakers hater …
and even I am appalled. I hope Chris Paul sues. I hope the Rockets sue.
I hope the Lakers sue. I hope Dell Demps resigns and makes a sex tape
with a stripper wearing a David Stern Halloween mask. Whatever happens,
the season has been irrevocably tainted — we just watched FIVE teams
have their seasons screwed up by this debacle. Houston's three-year plan
just went up in smoke; now the Rockets have to make up with their two
best players. (Good luck with that.) The Lakers need to determine if
their relationship with the notoriously sensitive Gasol and the even
more notoriously sensitive Odom is salvageable; and if it's not, what
then? The Hornets are just plain screwed. It's a basketball catastrophe
for them. As for the Celtics, Pinocchio Ainge's ill-fated pursuit of
Paul ruined the team's relationship with Rajon Rondo, only its best
young player. Even the Knicks got screwed — supposedly they closed the
deal with Tyson Chandler yesterday, never expecting Paul to become
available this summer (and now they can't chase him).</p>


The total tally: Five teams were screwed by one cowardly decision.</p>


Here's what saddens me: We should have remembered December 8, 2011,
as one of the best random basketball days in years. It was like climbing
on a Twitter/e-mail/phone call/texting roller coaster from the moment I
woke up. First, Boston was in the lead for Paul as Golden State and the
Clippers were falling out. Then, Boston fading as the Knicks were
gaining steam. Around lunchtime, I called a Knicks buddy who was
gleefully planning a future with Chandler, Carmelo and Paul, with poor
Amar'e headed to New Orleans, Orlando, Houston … who the hell knew? And
then, boom! That went up in smoke. The Lakers came roaring back, word of
a three-teamer spread … and my Knicks buddy went from euphoric to
despondent in less than three hours. My Laker fan buddies were crowing,
my Boston peeps were freaking out, my dad was practically having a heart
attack about the Kobe/Howard/Paul possibilities, Twitter was blowing up
… I mean, could that have been a more fun day to be a basketball fan?</p>


The best point guard of his generation was switching teams, in his
prime, to the Los Angeles Lakers … and only after the Celtics and
Knicks failed to get him. Read that sentence again. It's what Dan
Gilbert and the other Overpayers Anonymous owners will never understand.
In professional basketball, history trumps everything else. It's not
just about playing in Los Angeles. It's about playing for the ****ing Lakers.
It's about following the footsteps of Magic, Kareem, Wilt, West, Baylor
and Shaq. It's about Showtime, Nicholson, the yellow jerseys, the Laker
Girls, even that awful Randy Newman song. It's about that buzz before a
big Laker home game, when the place is packed with celebs and eye
candy, when you're the best guy on the team, when you might as well be
the king of the world. When these idiots complain about a "big
market/small market" disparity, it's almost like they never followed the
league before they bought their teams. Of course there's a disparity!
What kid doesn't grow up wanting to play for the Celtics, Lakers or
Knicks?</p>


Remember what pissed us off most about LeBron picking Miami over New
York? It wasn't just that he tried to stack the decks with a superteam;
it's that he walked away from New York, the city with the most
basketball fans, the city with the biggest spotlight, the city that
would have either made him immortal or broken him in two. He didn't want
it. He copped out. He could have picked loyalty (Cleveland) or
immortality (New York); instead, he chose help (Miami). That killed us.
We hated him for it. What was telling about Chris Paul's choice was that
he eschewed the Clippers (a safer basketball situation for him; he
would have been able to grow with Eric Gordon, DeAndre Jordan and Blake
Griffin) for the Lakers (a much more volatile basketball situation with
Kobe's miles and Bynum's knees) for the simple reason that he wanted to be a Laker.</p>


For the right players, it's not about cities as much as teams,
uniforms, histories, owners, fans, titles … and Chris Paul cares about
the right things. He's the best teammate in the league. As much as it
killed me that my least favorite team landed him, the "basketball fan"
side of me loved it. Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant … together? Playing
across the street from my office? How cool was that? I remember when KG
landed on the Celtics, one of my Lakers-fan buddies told me, "I hate KG
and I hate the Celtics, but this is going to be cool."</p>


That's how I felt about Chris Paul and the Lakers. If you love
basketball — if you truly love it — you appreciated what was happening.
And it had nothing to do with the Washington Generals. Believe me.</p>


Of course, that's not how December 8, 2011 will be remembered. Years
from now, I won't remember anything about that day except for David
Stern losing control of his own league. Once upon a time, it was
reassuring to look there and expect to see him, and darn, he was there.
It was kind of neat. Those days are long gone. The National Basketball
Association has lost its way. I feel like crying.</p>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 02:18 PM
<div class="report">


Lamar Odom did not show up for the first day
of training camp with the Lakers, in the wake of his nearly being traded
to the Hornets.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Odom sounded despondent when interviewed last
night, saying among other things, "You don’t want to go to no place
you’re not wanted. I’ll try to give them what they want as much as
possible." Pau Gasol showed up, to his credit.


Oh wow, it gets even better. I feel for Lamar, I love Lamar, he wanted to retire a Laker. This is another aspect of this "rejected" trade that no one is talking about. All players involved are going to be bitter. Rumors are Rumors but when it goes through it's personal and then it gets canceled. **** that! lol
</div>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 02:20 PM
<div class="report">


The Nets are "closing in" on a contract with Nene.</p></div>
<div class="impact">The team reportedly increased the offer to Nene last night, and it sounds like it's possible a deal may get done soon. Considering how fast and furious rumors are flying, there's also a chance a deal doesn't get done at all. Clearly, New Jersey is clearly being aggressive in its approach to improve. </div>




just went home for lunch and watched sportscenter. They seem pretty hell bent that a deal may get done today for Howard.

Nene at PF?
</p>


I like Nene....but, that may be because I think it's awesome when Brazilians go by only 1 name. lol</p>


Nene HILARIO! that name is funny....arguably HILARIOus.
-___-</p>Speaking of Brazillians....I think this kid knows Pizz :P

Justin-I know you can't see this @ work, gotta check it out when you get home.

http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-entrepreneurship.jpglol 50 for pizzle.


this is a picutre of a young pre-corrupted dezzz..

Some would say it was the start of the obsession with women - which lead to the hookers - then one fatal slip of the scissors #1 happened for the long island killer. He then got a taste for it
LOL-" A murder contest you know dezz'll win it, cauz in every mailbox there'd be a hoe's head with a knife in it!

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 02:22 PM
lawsuit time

I doubt it goes anywhere. Chris Paul should not show up to any games until the let it go through. lol

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 02:24 PM
lawsuit time

I doubt it goes anywhere. Chris Paul should not show up to any games until the let it go through. lol


I can still see this happening. This is going to be a nightmare, your going to have alot of pissed off teams and players

That Cavs guy seems to be the only one speaking up. I'd love to know what othe rowners and GMs hate this move. I mean Hornets and Rockets are two smaller market teams and they love the trade.

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 02:25 PM
lawsuit time

I doubt it goes anywhere. Chris Paul should not show up to any games until the let it go through. lol


I see an Osi type season for paul...

he'll play, get injured and milk the **** out of it

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 02:29 PM
LOL, that is hilarious man. I love Bill Simmons. I really do. So does Pizz. He writes some of the best stuff I have ever read. Especially when he gets bitter about Superbowl 42. I love it.

It's Grantland. Ever since he got his own **** I can't read it here. ****ers
</P>


i'll be honest, i have not read alot of Grantland since it came out...not because i dont like it, i just forget about it all the time.
But yes....Bill Simmons is hilarious, and i always love reading his blogs and such. </P>

lttaylor56
12-09-2011, 02:29 PM
http://www.allmotivated.com/pictures/Demotivational-pictures-old_Chinese_Saying766.jpg

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 02:34 PM
I hope Chris Paul sues. I hope the Rockets sue.
I hope the Lakers sue. I hope Dell Demps resigns and makes a sex tape
with a stripper wearing a David Stern Halloween mask.


LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 02:41 PM
i dont get it...</P>


you guys rag on me al the time for flaming the NBA and how awful it is....
but then the NBA pulls a power move and does something you dont like, and that somehow makes you NOT the haters? lol
</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 02:51 PM
i dont get it...</p>


you guys rag on me al the time for flaming the NBA and how awful it is....
but then the NBA pulls a power move and does something you dont like, and that somehow makes you NOT the haters? lol
</p>

i rag on you for thinking this was a lopsided trade and supporting a power move the likes that this league has never seen.

this is the end of David Stern - bottom line.

whether you think its a good deal or not, theres an overwelming counter to your argument that you should at least drop the "unfair" argument. Alot of people, including myself think that this isn't that great of a move for the Lakers and that the Hornets get as much value as they possibly could for a guy that had 2 teams he could be traded to.

Say what you want but that kid at PG is decent enough and has a ceiling, Scola is VERY servicable, MArtin is a very good scorer, and name me a player you can even compare Odom too AND a first round pick.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 03:13 PM
name me a player you can even compare Odom



You can't. There is only one Lamar. This sucks man....I feel bad for him. I hope everyone can get along.

http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images//t_36975.jpg

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 03:14 PM
Odom hinted he would not appear at camp in an interview Thursday with
The Times, saying, "Maybe I'll see you there,but I doubt it. You don't
want to go to no place you're not wanted."

Meanwhile, the Lakers will not
take the extreme step of seeking legal action against the NBA for
blocking the trade, according tothe team official.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 03:16 PM
fine, you guys win....</P>


...but mostly because i dont care lol</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 03:17 PM
-NBA Commissioner David Stern told Bloomberg (https://twitter.com/#%21/soshnick/status/145176533856821248)
why he nixed the Paul deal. "The decision was taken that Chris Paul in
New Orleans was more valuable than the trade that was being discussed."

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 03:17 PM
-NBA Commissioner David Stern told Bloomberg (https://twitter.com/#%21/soshnick/status/145176533856821248)
why he nixed the Paul deal. "The decision was taken that Chris Paul in
New Orleans was more valuable than the trade that was being discussed."

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 03:20 PM
we should edit text above our sigs to say "World Record Holders"</P>


lmao</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 03:32 PM
A source close to Brandon Roy has confirmed that he's been diagnosed with a career-ending knee condition and will retire.

JPizzack
12-09-2011, 03:38 PM
A source close to Brandon Roy has confirmed that he's been diagnosed with a career-ending knee condition and will retire.</P>


poor guy =\</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 03:40 PM
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323463398986_562">Fourth-round pick <span class="ysp-player">Casey Matthews (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24903/)</span>
has struggled in his first season in Philadelphia, not living up to the
lofty expectations his surname carries. While his brother Clay stars in
Green Bay and his uncle Bruce has a bust in Canton, Casey has played
mainly on special teams throughout the Eagles' disappointing 2011
campaign.</p>



Recently, that led to his hometown fans taunting his fiancee.He told (http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/casey_matthews_says_fans_harassed_family_made_fian c_cry/8608507)Philly.com's Les Bowen that she was with her aunt and young cousin:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">"They harassed [them] and made my fiancee
cry. It's tough. It's frustrating. That's just how they are here. If you
win they love you, so I guess we've just got to turn things around and
just start winning again."</p>
Matthews should be upset. Heckling a family wearing the jersey of a
player is low, even for Philadelphia. But part of me thinks some of this
is on Matthews.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 04:01 PM
Demps is “disconsolate” over the heavy-handed move from the
commissioner’s office, a source told Y! Sports. Demps considered
resigning his job on Thursday, league sources said, and had to be talked
out of it. The Hornets had scored a terrific deal for Paul, a trade
that was lauded by some of Demps’ peers throughout the league. Officials
involved in the trade talks said the league office was consulted
throughout the negotiations, and there was never an indication Demps
didn’t have the power to make a deal. In fact, several teams negotiating
with New Orleans to get Paul asked the league office and were told
Demps had full authority to execute a trade.

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 04:08 PM
As one rival executive with strong ties to the league office said,
“Stern cared about two things: selling that franchise for the best
possible price and showing the players that they weren’t going to
dictate where teams could trade them. But now, there’s no way that the
league can allow Chris Paul to be traded at all; otherwise, Stern is
basically deciding where one of the top players in the league is going
versus having any fair process.”“We were all told by the league he was a
tradeable player, and now they’re saying that Dell doesn’t have the
authority to make the trade?” said an NBA executive who had periodic
talks with New Orleans throughout the process.

“Now they’re saying that
Dell is an idiot, that he can’t do his job. [Expletive] this whole
thing. David’s drunk on power, and he doesn’t give a [expletive] about
the players, and he doesn’t give a [expletive] about the hundreds of
hours the teams put in to make that deal.“How do the Lakers explain this
to Odom? How does Houston deal with the guys it just tried to trade?
Scola and Martin are going to be pissed at them, and who knows how long
that takes to get over? Explain to me how the league kills this <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)</span> deal, but allows <span class="ysp-player">Kwame Brown (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3511/)</span> for <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)?</span>

“To
me, this makes the league feel like it’s rigged, that Stern just does
whatever Stern wants to do. He’s messed up the competitive balance of
this league a lot worse by killing the deal because you’ve completely
destroyed the planning that New Orleans and Houston did and left them in
shambles over this. I’ve never been so discouraged about this league,
never so down.</p>


<font color="#0000FF">“I mean, come on: Chris Paul is leaving New Orleans in 66 games. He’s
gone. And what’s Dell Demps, and that franchise, going to have to show
for it?”</font></p>

MattMeyerBud
12-09-2011, 04:18 PM
As one rival executive with strong ties to the league office said,
“Stern cared about two things: selling that franchise for the best
possible price and showing the players that they weren’t going to
dictate where teams could trade them. But now, there’s no way that the
league can allow Chris Paul to be traded at all; otherwise, Stern is
basically deciding where one of the top players in the league is going
versus having any fair process.”“We were all told by the league he was a
tradeable player, and now they’re saying that Dell doesn’t have the
authority to make the trade?” said an NBA executive who had periodic
talks with New Orleans throughout the process.

“Now they’re saying that
Dell is an idiot, that he can’t do his job. [Expletive] this whole
thing. David’s drunk on power, and he doesn’t give a [expletive] about
the players, and he doesn’t give a [expletive] about the hundreds of
hours the teams put in to make that deal.“How do the Lakers explain this
to Odom? How does Houston deal with the guys it just tried to trade?
Scola and Martin are going to be pissed at them, and who knows how long
that takes to get over? Explain to me how the league kills this <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)</span> deal, but allows <span class="ysp-player">Kwame Brown (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3511/)</span> for <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/)?</span>

“To
me, this makes the league feel like it’s rigged, that Stern just does
whatever Stern wants to do. He’s messed up the competitive balance of
this league a lot worse by killing the deal because you’ve completely
destroyed the planning that New Orleans and Houston did and left them in
shambles over this. I’ve never been so discouraged about this league,
never so down.</p>


<font color="#0000FF">“I mean, come on: Chris Paul is leaving New Orleans in 66 games. He’s
gone. And what’s Dell Demps, and that franchise, going to have to show
for it?”</font></p>

wheres that from?

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 04:42 PM
We all remember where we were when <a class="flexpop">Brian Westbrook</a>
took a knee instead of walking in for a touchdown (also against Dallas,
also Week 15) in 2007. It was the difference between winning and
losing for thousands of owners. But perhaps no Westbrook-induced loss
was more painful than the story of a Wall Street guy who plays in a
million-dollar league with other financial titans. That knee cost him
$600,000. </p>

Randomly, just Thursday, Brian Westbrook
was here at ESPN doing a bunch of interviews and we chatted a bit. He
told me, even four years later, not a day goes by that someone doesn't
talk to him about that play and how it either won or lost them a fantasy
game. I told him about the 600K guy. He just shook his head. That
was a new one, even for Brian.</p>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 04:44 PM
@DanFXC: Lost by .6 because Dallas iced their own kicker.</p>

@bradhensley
:What about a simple pic? Could have sat my D/ST and won. He missed
playoffs by 1/2 game. (Included was a picture of the Giants' D/ST's -10
points against the Packers, and the final score of 107-98.</p>

@wmcmillan6:
Went to sleep up .9 after MNF (in the) 1st round (of the playoffs) last
year. Stat update: Browns +1 sack = I woke up down .1, final. Crushed.</p>

@shimonmds: Last week I lost to someone who started <a class="flexpop">Peyton Manning</a>! Needless to say, neither of us are making the playoffs.</p>

@hartleysworld: 2009 I'm No. 1 seed need 8 points with <a class="flexpop">Marion Barber</a>. He gets 47 yrds/14 RUSH, 22 yds REC and stopped 4 (times) in a row on 1 yard line.</p>

@Mestblinknfggc:
Down by 1.6, PPR, M. Lewis catches it, puts me up by .2, then fumbles.
That was the end of the scoring for both teams.</p>

@shaine_69: We have yardage bonuses at 100, <a class="flexpop">Fred Davis</a> at 99, Romo at 299, CJ2K knocked me out of playoff contention by last place guy.</p>

@blairCmcdonald: 103.40 - 103.15 in Week 4. <a class="flexpop">Eli Manning</a> takes a knee 3 times in final minutes in win versus Arizona. Lose .3 and the matchup</p>

@DucalCrownRalph:
Easy. Last year, down by 4.5 in semifinals, AP sits out MNF, can't add
anyone. Ended up 3rd, shoulda won it all #badbeat.</p>

@majorleaguenerd:
Week 3 SNF, Ben kneels to set up field goal. minus-2 rush yards. League
scores to 2 decimal places. Lost by 0.08. Missed playoffs by 1 game.</p>

@Mawam: League didn't allow pick-ups after Thursday night game, Prater injured in practice on Friday. Lost by 2 points</p>

@UpperRDL: Finally got the GF to play. She's picking 6th, I'm 7th. Wanting to be sneaky I tell her to draft <a class="flexpop">Aaron Rodgers</a> so I could get Vick. Doh!</p>


</p>


</p>

LMAO ouch!!!!
</p>

Morehead State
12-09-2011, 04:45 PM
We all remember where we were when <A class=flexpop>Brian Westbrook</A> took a knee instead of walking in for a touchdown (also against Dallas, also Week 15) in 2007. It was the difference between winning and losing for thousands of owners. But perhaps no Westbrook-induced loss was more painful than the story of a Wall Street guy who plays in a million-dollar league with other financial titans. That knee cost him $600,000. </P>


Randomly, just Thursday, Brian Westbrook was here at ESPN doing a bunch of interviews and we chatted a bit. He told me, even four years later, not a day goes by that someone doesn't talk to him about that play and how it either won or lost them a fantasy game. I told him about the 600K guy. He just shook his head. That was a new one, even for Brian.</P>


</P>


he has to look on the bright side. It also <U>made</U> someone $600,000.</P>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 04:46 PM
wheres that from?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=At0YpkttGOdwH1pB9z0LvNy8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_trade_hornets_lakers_nba_12 0911

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 04:47 PM
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323467410793_318">The New Orleans Hornets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nor/), Houston Rockets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/hou/) and Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/) have resumed negotiations in an attempt to find a way to complete a blockbuster trade that would send <span class="ysp-player">Chris Paul (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3930/)</span> to L.A., league sources told Yahoo! Sports.</p>


“All three teams are engaged,” one source told Y! Sports. “Not sure if it will work.”</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323467410793_311">The resumption of talks comes less
than 24 hours after the three teams agreed on a trade only to have NBA
commissioner David Stern veto it. Stern released a statement on Friday
saying he blocked the trade because the league-owned Hornets were
“better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of
the terms of that trade.”</p>

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 04:48 PM
I told him about the 600K guy. He just shook his head. That was a new one, even for Brian.


</p>


he has to look on the bright side. It also <u>made</u> someone $600,000.</p>
People were and are still outraged. It was crazy. The Eagles did win the game however. lol

bigblue4417
12-09-2011, 05:11 PM
During training camp, Eli Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1657/eli-manning) raised some eyebrows by saying he considers himself one of the NFL’s elite quarterbacks (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/17/eli-makes-his-case-for-elite-status/). Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan says Manning is absolutely right about his status.</p>


“The guy’s playing excellent (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post?id=4687887),”
Ryan said of Manning, via ESPNDallas.com. “He does a great job. He’s
got an unbelievable touch. He will stand in there in the face of a damn
hurricane and throw the ball. He’s really tough. We’re looking forward
to this challenge. We’ve played some great quarterbacks during the year
and this guy is no exception. He’s really playing well. He’s in that
elite group for sure.”</p>


Ryan is preparing a game plan for Manning for Sunday night’s
Giants-Cowboys game, and he said he thinks his players have their hands
full.</p>


“If you watch the tape the last two weeks, you don’t want to watch
it,” Ryan said. “Eli Manning threw 22 straight completions against the
Saints, hung up 35 points against the world champion defense supposedly
[Green Bay]. We’re up for a big challenge here, but our guys are ready
to go. We’re anxious about this game. We’ve done our preparation and we
can’t wait until it gets here.”</p>


The Cowboys are a game ahead of the Giants in the NFC East and can
probably win the division with a split of their two remaining games. But
Ryan says he thinks his team can’t afford to lose to the Giants at
home.</p>


“Down the stretch here, is this a must win?” Ryan asked. “In my opinion, yes it is. We need to win this game.”</p>

JPizzack
12-10-2011, 11:41 AM
To say Rob Ryan is a better person than his twin brother is a ****ing understatement.
This guy just gets it....

dezzzR
12-10-2011, 11:45 AM
To say Rob Ryan is a better person than his twin brother is a ****ing understatement.
This guy just gets it....theyre both flaming *******s.

Joe Morrison
12-10-2011, 11:49 AM
Ryan brothers team up at the County Fair to see who is better in the pie eating contest!</P>


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JPizzack
12-10-2011, 11:55 AM
To say Rob Ryan is a better person than his twin brother is a ****ing understatement.
This guy just gets it....theyre both flaming *******s.
</P>


the difference between them is that rex is disrespectful POS, and Rob isnt.</P>

Morehead State
12-12-2011, 12:01 AM
Victory for my favorite two teams.</P>


.......The New York Football Giants and .........Fear The Underdog.</P>

Morehead State
12-12-2011, 12:21 AM
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ23hCeBcen_rWP9wIitFahkQnyvoBS9 F_o2OIlZAFGdMAL1sCx</P>


<FONT size=6>I WANT YOU</FONT></P>


<FONT size=6>...LANDO!!!</FONT></P>

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 12:31 AM
Here ya go Dez. Just made your dreams come true. I hope to see that in your sig for a loooooong time.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/918387/jacobs2_medium.gif

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 12:31 AM
Here ya go Dez. Just made your dreams come true. I hope to see that in your sig for a loooooong time.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/918387/jacobs2_medium.gif

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 12:32 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/822487/adjones.gif

ny06
12-12-2011, 12:32 AM
Here ya go Dez. Just made your dreams come true. I hope to see that in your sig for a loooooong time.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/918387/jacobs2_medium.gif</P>


That's awesome...</P>


</P>

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 12:35 AM
<font size="6" color="#0000FF">GO GIANTS!!!!</font>

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 12:39 AM
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ23hCeBcen_rWP9wIitFahkQnyvoBS9 F_o2OIlZAFGdMAL1sCx</p>


<font size="6">I WANT YOU</font></p>


<font size="6">...LANDO!!!</font></p>
I want you to.

Morehead State
12-12-2011, 12:56 AM
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ23hCeBcen_rWP9wIitFahkQnyvoBS9 F_o2OIlZAFGdMAL1sCx</P>


<FONT size=6>I WANT YOU</FONT></P>


<FONT size=6>...LANDO!!!</FONT></P>



I want you to.
</P>


Yes I know, but in my case its in a more appropriate way.</P>


Not that there's anything wrong with that.</P>

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 01:21 AM
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ23hCeBcen_rWP9wIitFahkQnyvoBS9 F_o2OIlZAFGdMAL1sCx</P>


<FONT size=6>I WANT YOU</FONT></P>


<FONT size=6>...LANDO!!!</FONT></P>



I want you to.
</P>


Yes I know, *but in my case its in a more appropriate way.</P>


Not that there's anything wrong with that.</P>
Don't flatter yourself. Did you think I wanted to play Pats?

It will be fun to play you finally, it should have happened last year.

My team is ready to repeat!

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 08:59 AM
I am going to write a story about a 2011 NYG team decimated with injuries, and makeshift offensive line, in a matchup against the defending superbowl champion green bay packers, who happened to be undefeated. The Giant's beat the Packer's that night, the ref's and the scoreboard showed differently, but we all know the truth. I think the Giant's learned something about themselves that night as well.

Next this Giant's team traveled to Dallas to secure their 3rd straight win in Texas Stadium in a 4th quarter comeback engineered by Eli Manning and sealed by JPP.

Who's next *****es, because the NYG freight train is building momentum?

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 08:59 AM
good game moorehead

i thought i got ya with the triple redskin threat

figures that the 55 yard bomb Moss catches is from Banks and not Grossman

And that miles &gt; Plax

****ers

oh well great win last night

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 09:02 AM
I am going to write a story about a 2011 NYG team decimated with injuries, and makeshift offensive line, in a matchup against the defending superbowl champion green bay packers, who happened to be undefeated. The Giant's beat the Packer's that night, the ref's and the scoreboard showed differently, but we all know the truth. I think the Giant's learned something about themselves that night as well.

Next this Giant's team traveled to Dallas to secure their 3rd straight win in Texas Stadium in a 4th quarter comeback engineered by Eli Manning and sealed by JPP.

Who's next *****es, because the NYG freight train is building momentum?

a pretty underrated and Redskin team... can't overlook em or let down

Morehead State
12-12-2011, 09:04 AM
I am going to write a story about a 2011 NYG team decimated with injuries, and makeshift offensive line, in a matchup against the defending superbowl champion green bay packers, who happened to be undefeated. The Giant's beat the Packer's that night, the ref's and the scoreboard showed differently, but we all know the truth. I think the Giant's learned something about themselves that night as well. Next this Giant's team traveled to Dallas to secure their 3rd straight win in Texas Stadium in a 4th quarter comeback engineered by Eli Manning and sealed by JPP. Who's next *****es, because the NYG freight train is building momentum?</P>


Expect the Washington game to be a lot like last nights. Another shoot out.</P>


At least we're still in it after the great comeback last night. the old ticker can't handle many more of those.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 09:08 AM
goddamn it we better win the next 3

Morehead State
12-12-2011, 09:12 AM
good game moorehead

i thought i got ya with the triple redskin threat

figures that the 55 yard bomb Moss catches is from Banks and not Grossman

And that miles &gt; Plax

****ers

oh well great win last night
</P>


Let me tell you about my magic hat.</P>


Its a hideous green winter hat I bought about 30 years ago with ear flaps and a strap. I wore it for good luck during the SB stretch and it single handedly won us the SB. My wife brought it out for the first time since then for last nights game.</P>


But the magic goes both ways. It only works for the Giants defense. My daughter skyped me in the afternoon and I put it on to show her. Just as I did that Matts team got three TD''s in about 10 seconds. (Literally Matt went from 21 points to 44 points in 10 seconds) </P>


I immediately took it off.</P>


For the game, I put it on for only 4 plays. Threy were essentailly the only 4 good plays made by the defense. Three third down stops and finally the blocked FG.</P>


The friggin hat works. I knew they were going to miss the FG because I treat the hat with respect. i don't overuse is.</P>


Everybody please thank me for the win last night, plus the SB victory.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 09:24 AM
is that any relation to Lando's Magic Underwear?

Morehead State
12-12-2011, 09:27 AM
is that any relation to Lando's Magic Underwear?
</P>


Well the fact that you keep it under your pillow suggests otherwise.</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 09:32 AM
is that any relation to Lando's Magic Underwear?
</p>


Well the fact that you keep it under your pillow suggests otherwise.</p>

uhm

ok

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 09:35 AM
is that any relation to Lando's Magic Underwear?
</P>


Well the fact that you keep it under your pillow suggests otherwise.</P>ewwww. How about Lt's Jacksonville defense earning him 33.75 pts yesterday. Pretty smooth move by the the rook to drop NYG defense a week ago.

Grasshopper is learning and soon will walk the rice paper and leave no tracks. When I can grab the marble from the blind man's hand..then I have learned Fantasy Football.

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 09:37 AM
is that any relation to Lando's Magic Underwear?
</P>


Well the fact that you keep it under your pillow suggests otherwise.</P>ewwww. How about Lt's Jacksonville defense earning him 33.75 pts yesterday. Pretty smooth move by the the rook to drop NYG defense a week ago.

Grasshopper is learning and soon will walk the rice paper and leave no tracks. When I can grab the marble from the blind man's hand..then I have learned Fantasy Football.

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 09:43 AM
Here ya go Dez. Just made your dreams come true. I hope to see that in your sig for a loooooong time.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/918387/jacobs2_medium.gifi cant see it on the page but when i quote you i can. i like how he chest bumps his fb flawlessly.

Morehead State
12-12-2011, 09:44 AM
FF matches next week will be epic.</P>


Pats (161 points) vs. Byron.</P>


And Morehead vs. Lando.</P>


Not sure if anyone can stop the Brady, Gronk express. And Lando has CJ up against Indy. Gunna be tough one for the good guys (Fear The Underdog). Vick and Maclin up against the Jets gives me some hope.</P>


I'm going to have to run some secret practices this week to prepare.</P>

Morehead State
12-12-2011, 09:48 AM
Here ya go Dez. Just made your dreams come true. I hope to see that in your sig for a loooooong time.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/918387/jacobs2_medium.gifi cant see it on the page but when i quote you i can. i like how he chest bumps his fb flawlessly.
</P>


BTW, everytime the BJ haters come out, he comes up with huge games. He looked fast, decisive and hard hitting last night. Plenty of gas left in that tank.</P>


My only complaint was that they took him out when he was running so well.</P>

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 09:49 AM
Here ya go Dez. Just made your dreams come true. I hope to see that in your sig for a loooooong time.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/918387/jacobs2_medium.gifi cant see it on the page but when i quote you i can. i like how he chest bumps his fb flawlessly.
What a bully BJ is lol

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 09:55 AM
Huge play by Tolley taking out murray with the fractured ankle. That takes care of their two headed running attack for our next matchup.

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 10:03 AM
can this defense please, please stop giving up 30 points every week? i dont think its too much to ask for.

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 10:06 AM
Huge play by Tolley taking out murray with the fractured ankle. That takes care of their two headed running attack for our next matchup.yeaa silly me thinking the giants will contain felix with ease.

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 10:06 AM
can this defense please, please stop giving up 30 points every week? i dont think its too much to ask for.





Nope, we're not built that way this year.

2 things:

How many sacks did the infamous Ware put on Eli last night? I know he got injured, but not bad for the oline-

TC-There may be no such thing as icing the kicker, but that was a smooth move that gave JPP a nice chance for the game changer.

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 10:06 AM
Huge play by Tolley taking out murray with the fractured ankle. That takes care of their two headed running attack for our next matchup.yeaa silly me thinking the giants will contain felix with ease.

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 10:10 AM
can this defense please, please stop giving up 30 points every week? i dont think its too much to ask for.





Nope, we're not built that way this year.

2 things:

How many sacks did the infamous Ware put on Eli last night? I know he got injured, but not bad for the oline-

TC-There may be no such thing as icing the kicker, but that was a smooth move that gave JPP a nice chance for the game changer.This week, illustrating the way you're supposed to ice a kicker, Giants coach Tom Coughlin decided to once again call a last-second timeout as Bailey fired his first attempt through the uprights. This time, though, the strategy came with a purpose. It not only increased the pressure on Bailey. It also gave New York's defensive linemen an opportunity to see how the Cowboys would block them.


"That guard was strong cat," Pierre-Paul said. "On the first kick, he was heavy, and I couldn't push him. So on the second attempt, I said, 'Man, I just got to push through the center instead and try to block the kick. I stepped left and went through the center.'

"And the ball was right there."

Little moments. Little decisions that alter everything.

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 10:11 AM
can this defense please, please stop giving up 30 points every week? i dont think its too much to ask for.





Nope, we're not built that way this year.

2 things:

How many sacks did the infamous Ware put on Eli last night? I know he got injured, but not bad for the oline-

TC-There may be no such thing as icing the kicker, but that was a smooth move that gave JPP a nice chance for the game changer.This week, illustrating the way you're supposed to ice a kicker, Giants coach Tom Coughlin decided to once again call a last-second timeout as Bailey fired his first attempt through the uprights. This time, though, the strategy came with a purpose. It not only increased the pressure on Bailey. It also gave New York's defensive linemen an opportunity to see how the Cowboys would block them.


"That guard was strong cat," Pierre-Paul said. "On the first kick, he was heavy, and I couldn't push him. So on the second attempt, I said, 'Man, I just got to push through the center instead and try to block the kick. I stepped left and went through the center.'

"And the ball was right there."

Little moments. Little decisions that alter everything.

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 10:15 AM
Huge play by Tolley taking out murray with the fractured ankle. That takes care of their two headed running attack for our next matchup.yeaa silly me thinking the giants will contain felix with ease.
Seriously, it amazes me how these rb's do it. Felix has a high ankle sprain and injured shoulder and runs like a locomotive.

AB as well, with his injury he can only run on the outside of his feet an announcer said, as I watched AB run on the bottom of his feet.

What do they shoot these guy's up with anyway?

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 10:20 AM
Huge play by Tolley taking out murray with the fractured ankle. That takes care of their two headed running attack for our next matchup.yeaa silly me thinking the giants will contain felix with ease.
Seriously, it amazes me how these rb's do it. Felix has a high ankle sprain and injured shoulder and runs like a locomotive.

AB as well, with his injury he can only run on the outside of his feet an announcer said, as I watched AB run on the bottom of his feet.

What do they shoot these guy's up with anyway?

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 10:20 AM
Huge play by Tolley taking out murray with the fractured ankle. That takes care of their two headed running attack for our next matchup.yeaa silly me thinking the giants will contain felix with ease.
Seriously, it amazes me how these rb's do it. Felix has a high ankle sprain and injured shoulder and runs like a locomotive.

AB as well, with his injury he can only run on the outside of his feet an announcer said, as I watched AB run on the bottom of his feet.

What do they shoot these guy's up with anyway?

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 10:26 AM
landos giff broke the forums

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 10:35 AM
landos giff broke the forums
Thanks Lando for ruining our world record thread. :)

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 10:41 AM
everybody see Canty do Ware's celebration when he sacked Romo

then Dezz, who apparently is "THE GIANT KILLER" now even though he had one catch because there was a break down and he was wide open 20 yards down field., did the Salsa dance when he scored a TD

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 10:45 AM
BTW, everytime the BJ haters come out, he comes up with huge games. He looked fast, decisive and hard hitting last night. Plenty of gas left in that tank.
If BJ played everyone the way he plays Dallas he would have no haters.

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 10:52 AM
BTW, everytime the BJ haters come out, he comes up with huge games. He looked fast, decisive and hard hitting last night. Plenty of gas left in that tank.
If BJ played everyone the way he plays Dallas he would have no haters.


yea. I mean he played great yesterday but I think his performance yesterday completely proved my argument about him ***** footing and not running hard.

You saw the difference in his bursts from his first step in the backfield

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 10:54 AM
everybody see Canty do Ware's celebration when he sacked Romo

then Dezz, who apparently is "THE GIANT KILLER" now even though he had one catch because there was a break down and he was wide open 20 yards down field., did the Salsa dance when he scored a TD

Yeah, seriously. The Giant Killer? lol

That pissed me off when he did that dance but we got the last laugh.

That game was so intense, just like every other Giants game believe it or not. I bet that was fun to watch with your boy.

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 10:58 AM
good game moorehead

i thought i got ya with the triple redskin threat

figures that the 55 yard bomb Moss catches is from Banks and not Grossman

And that miles &gt; Plax

****ers

oh well great win last night

I'm sure you already figured this out but you win if MH doesn't have MJD. Even with the goose egg from Plax. Tough season for ya bro. Got hurt with some injuries again. You did everything you could with your squad. I'll hold it down for team Bud. Student finishes above teacher again (just like I said).

P.S. Change your sig [;)]

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 10:59 AM
BTW, everytime the BJ haters come out, he comes up with huge games. He looked fast, decisive and hard hitting last night. Plenty of gas left in that tank.
If BJ played everyone the way he plays Dallas he would have no haters.
amen to that

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 10:59 AM
everybody see Canty do Ware's celebration when he sacked Romo

then Dezz, who apparently is "THE GIANT KILLER" now even though he had one catch because there was a break down and he was wide open 20 yards down field., did the Salsa dance when he scored a TD
Dezz, did you see Beckum last night? Is he becoming a legit Te in this league?

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 11:01 AM
BTW,* everytime the BJ haters come out, he comes up with huge games.* He looked fast, decisive and hard hitting last night.* Plenty of gas left in that tank.
If BJ played everyone the way he plays Dallas he would have no haters.


yea. I mean he played great yesterday but I think his performance yesterday completely proved my argument about him ***** footing and not running hard.

You saw the difference in his bursts from his first step in the backfield
Yes, previous games BJ was tip toeing thru the tulips

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 11:09 AM
FF matches next week will be epic.</p>


Pats (161 points) vs. Byron.</p>


And Morehead vs. Lando.</p>


Not sure if anyone can stop the Brady, Gronk express. And Lando has CJ up against Indy. Gunna be tough one for the good guys (Fear The Underdog). Vick and Maclin up against the Jets gives me some hope.</p>


I'm going to have to run some secret practices this week to prepare.</p>
It is going to be a good weekend. I guess we will find out who made the better trade as far as our TE's this week. Plus you have Stafford so hopefully I didn't kick myself in the butt on that one. I have AP coming off lots of rest as well. Vick and Maclin have some momentum going. I really like my match ups this week and I think you have some tough ones. MJD put the fear of god in me. I have had him on my team the last 2 years so I think he will take it easy on me. Go Falcons run D!!! lol

JPizzack
12-12-2011, 11:12 AM
everybody see Canty do Ware's celebration when he sacked Romo

then Dezz, who apparently is "THE GIANT KILLER" now even though he had one catch because there was a break down and he was wide open 20 yards down field., did the Salsa dance when he scored a TD

Yeah, seriously. The Giant Killer? lol

That pissed me off when he did that dance but we got the last laugh.

That game was so intense, just like every other Giants game believe it or not. I bet that was fun to watch with your boy.
</P>


Someone is jealous of an undrafted stud! lol</P>

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 11:13 AM
The friggin hat works.
If that hat comes up missing this weekend don't blame me....

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 11:14 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.

JPizzack
12-12-2011, 11:17 AM
Awesome win last night. Another game that going into the end of the game trailing, I had that "whatever, we're going to win here" feeling. It's a good feeling knowing Eli will win games.

that being said, I'm really concerned about our defense still, giving up such huge plays in the secondary. Ross got burned and beat like 8 times last night. Our LBs looked like a bunch of rookies...oh wait... =P
JPP is our saviour thank god....making all the huge plays when we needed him too. AND he was chasing dudes down like a LB. What a freak of nature that kid is. I love it.

We really need to get healthy, and our secondary needs to stop being terrible. lol</P>

Kase-1
12-12-2011, 11:18 AM
Now THAT was the Brandon Jacobs that Ive been a fan of for all these years, and stuck up for all season long!!!

Jacobs haters eat a fat djck, the Bully-dozer is in the building !!!!!!

Kase-1
12-12-2011, 11:23 AM
Awesome win last night. Another game that going into the end of the game trailing, I had that "whatever, we're going to win here" feeling. It's a good feeling knowing Eli will win games.

that being said, I'm really concerned about our defense still, giving up such huge plays in the secondary. Ross got burned and beat like 8 times last night. Our LBs looked like a bunch of rookies...oh wait... =P
JPP is our saviour thank god....making all the huge plays when we needed him too. AND he was chasing dudes down like a LB. What a freak of nature that kid is. I love it.

We really need to get healthy, and our secondary needs to stop being terrible. lol</p>Its GREAT to win, but there were many issues last nite

1. Kevin Boothe needs to take snapping lessons from DeOssie, way too many wayward snaps last nite

2. Our 2ndary played TERRIBLE last nite.

3. Boley is good, Kiwi is getting better, and then we have nothing for our 3rd LB spot

4, Prince showed that he isnt ready to start (ugh I HATE Aaron Ross)

5. The on the field communication when we were on D was abysmal!!!! Webby and Prince each had plays where they were running zone when the rest of the team ran man coverage (look at that pitiful 70yd td)

6. Oh yea David Diehl DOES suck at LT, cant believe some of you forgot that


On the good side... ELI, Canty, Our WRs, Mitch Petrus

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 11:25 AM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1211/nfl_u_pierre-paul04jr_576.jpg

Kase-1
12-12-2011, 11:25 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
The Clippers?? Is that a barbershop in the hood??

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 11:29 AM
Cowboys season defined: from 1960-2010 Dallas lost 2 games in which they
had a 4th qtr lead of 12 pts or more. in 2011 its happened 3 times

lol

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 11:31 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
The Clippers?? Is that a barbershop in the hood??
whats skips excuse for the boys this morning.

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 11:32 AM
Awesome win last night. Another game that going into the end of the game trailing, I had that "whatever, we're going to win here" feeling. It's a good feeling knowing Eli will win games.

that being said, I'm really concerned about our defense still, giving up such huge plays in the secondary. Ross got burned and beat like 8 times last night. Our LBs looked like a bunch of rookies...oh wait... =P
JPP is our saviour thank god....making all the huge plays when we needed him too. AND he was chasing dudes down like a LB. What a freak of nature that kid is. I love it.

We really need to get healthy, and our secondary needs to stop being terrible. lol</p>Its GREAT to win, but there were many issues last nite

1. Kevin Boothe needs to take snapping lessons from DeOssie, way too many wayward snaps last nite

2. Our 2ndary played TERRIBLE last nite.

3. Boley is good, Kiwi is getting better, and then we have nothing for our 3rd LB spot

4,* Prince showed that he isnt ready to start (ugh I HATE Aaron Ross)

5. The on the field communication when we were on D was abysmal!!!! Webby and Prince each had plays where they were running zone when the rest of the team ran man coverage (look at that pitiful 70yd td)

6. Oh yea David Diehl DOES suck at LT, cant believe some of you forgot that


On the good side... ELI, Canty, Our WRs, Mitch Petrus
Great points-kase. Eli managed to adjust so some terrible snaps. Linebacker depth is scary. Kiwi was all over the place. Prince showed what a rookie cb with very limited experience should look like. Communication needs to get fixed quickly with the defense. Those wr's were WIDE open.

JPizzack
12-12-2011, 11:34 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
</P>


weird....</P>

Kase-1
12-12-2011, 11:35 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
The Clippers?? Is that a barbershop in the hood??
whats skips excuse for the boys this morning.
No clue, its been the damned Tebow Show all morning. I turned it on late but they replay it at noon so ill see

The more I watch Steven A go up against Skip, the more I LOVE Steven A and despise Skip..... Skip is such a disrespectful piece of trash

Kase-1
12-12-2011, 11:40 AM
Awesome win last night. Another game that going into the end of the game trailing, I had that "whatever, we're going to win here" feeling. It's a good feeling knowing Eli will win games.

that being said, I'm really concerned about our defense still, giving up such huge plays in the secondary. Ross got burned and beat like 8 times last night. Our LBs looked like a bunch of rookies...oh wait... =P
JPP is our saviour thank god....making all the huge plays when we needed him too. AND he was chasing dudes down like a LB. What a freak of nature that kid is. I love it.

We really need to get healthy, and our secondary needs to stop being terrible. lol</p>Its GREAT to win, but there were many issues last nite

1. Kevin Boothe needs to take snapping lessons from DeOssie, way too many wayward snaps last nite

2. Our 2ndary played TERRIBLE last nite.

3. Boley is good, Kiwi is getting better, and then we have nothing for our 3rd LB spot

4, Prince showed that he isnt ready to start (ugh I HATE Aaron Ross)

5. The on the field communication when we were on D was abysmal!!!! Webby and Prince each had plays where they were running zone when the rest of the team ran man coverage (look at that pitiful 70yd td)

6. Oh yea David Diehl DOES suck at LT, cant believe some of you forgot that


On the good side... ELI, Canty, Our WRs, Mitch Petrus
Great points-kase. Eli managed to adjust so some terrible snaps. Linebacker depth is scary. Kiwi was all over the place. Prince showed what a rookie cb with very limited experience should look like. Communication needs to get fixed quickly with the defense. Those wr's were WIDE open.It was painful to watch the replays. Just about every 20+ yd completion was due to blown coverage and missed assignments. I dont know wtf happened, its not like our guys were close to the routes, they straight up were running the wrong plays

2ndary is playing man coverage and all of a sudden Prince, Webby, or Ross just gives up on the route (it looked like they thought they were supposed to be in zone, but the play on the field was a man play) and there is NO safety help from over the top which says to me they were in man coverage or else we would have the safetys playing centerfield, cause they werent blitzing or attacking the LOS

Once Again Brandon 'The Bully-Dozer' Jacobs is one badass mothaluva

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 11:41 AM
everybody see Canty do Ware's celebration when he sacked Romo

then Dezz, who apparently is "THE GIANT KILLER" now even though he had one catch because there was a break down and he was wide open 20 yards down field., did the Salsa dance when he scored a TD

Yeah, seriously. The Giant Killer? lol

That pissed me off when he did that dance but we got the last laugh.

That game was so intense, just like every other Giants game believe it or not. I bet that was fun to watch with your boy.
</p>


Someone is jealous of an undrafted stud! lol</p>

huh?

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 11:42 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.


#poeticjustice

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 11:43 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
The Clippers?? Is that a barbershop in the hood??
whats skips excuse for the boys this morning.
No clue, its been the damned Tebow Show all morning. I turned it on late but they replay it at noon so ill see

The more I watch Steven A go up against Skip, the more I LOVE Steven A and despise Skip..... Skip is such a disrespectful piece of trash
i thought it was funny when tony saragoosa was interviewing tebow and at the end tebow looks dead into the camera and goes "God bless you" lmao. must of drove haters nuts.

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 11:43 AM
"The best thing is we got our season back tonight," team CEO John Mara
said. "It would be nice to have an easy win for a change, but I don't
know if that is in our DNA." lol

"JPP for president. JPP for president," Tuck bellowed.

"We've been in these situations before," said Manning, who threw for 400
yards and two touchdowns. "It is nothing new. I don't like being in the
situations. It is becoming a bad habit but we find ways to overcome it
and it is a fun way to win." lol

This team takes weeks off your life every game...

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 11:43 AM
Now THAT was the Brandon Jacobs that Ive been a fan of for all these years, and stuck up for all season long!!!

Jacobs haters eat a fat djck, the Bully-dozer is in the building !!!!!!


as great as it was, im sorry it just further proves my argument on him earlier that he doesn't give the same effort game in and out.

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 11:44 AM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1211/nfl_u_pierre-paul04jr_576.jpg

you know when I knew we were going to win... when we were down 12 points wiht 5:30 left in the fourth, right after Dallas scored and Jerry Jones started shaking hands like the game was over

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 11:44 AM
Eli will also smash the record for 4th quarter TD's. Tied right now with 3 games left.

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 11:45 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.


#poeticjustice
you were killing that kid in your facebook war of words until you dropped the #. and he called you a *** lol

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 11:46 AM
Awesome win last night. Another game that going into the end of the game trailing, I had that "whatever, we're going to win here" feeling. It's a good feeling knowing Eli will win games.

that being said, I'm really concerned about our defense still, giving up such huge plays in the secondary. Ross got burned and beat like 8 times last night. Our LBs looked like a bunch of rookies...oh wait... =P
JPP is our saviour thank god....making all the huge plays when we needed him too. AND he was chasing dudes down like a LB. What a freak of nature that kid is. I love it.

We really need to get healthy, and our secondary needs to stop being terrible. lol</p>Its GREAT to win, but there were many issues last nite

1. Kevin Boothe needs to take snapping lessons from DeOssie, way too many wayward snaps last nite

2. Our 2ndary played TERRIBLE last nite.

3. Boley is good, Kiwi is getting better, and then we have nothing for our 3rd LB spot

4, Prince showed that he isnt ready to start (ugh I HATE Aaron Ross)

5. The on the field communication when we were on D was abysmal!!!! Webby and Prince each had plays where they were running zone when the rest of the team ran man coverage (look at that pitiful 70yd td)

6. Oh yea David Diehl DOES suck at LT, cant believe some of you forgot that


On the good side... ELI, Canty, Our WRs, Mitch Petrus
Great points-kase. Eli managed to adjust so some terrible snaps. Linebacker depth is scary. Kiwi was all over the place. Prince showed what a rookie cb with very limited experience should look like. Communication needs to get fixed quickly with the defense. Those wr's were WIDE open.

i find it amazing that you could say Diehl sucks with the job he did on Ware last night but blow Beatty....

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 11:46 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
The Clippers?? Is that a barbershop in the hood??
whats skips excuse for the boys this morning.
No clue, its been the damned Tebow Show all morning. I turned it on late but they replay it at noon so ill see

The more I watch Steven A go up against Skip, the more I LOVE Steven A and despise Skip..... Skip is such a disrespectful piece of trash


hahahaha its true. Only Skip can make Steve A tolerable

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 11:47 AM
Eli will also smash the record for 4th quarter TD's. Tied right now with 3 games left.
yea i saw that. hes tied at 14 with unitas and big bro

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 11:49 AM
you know when I knew we were going to win... when we were down 12 points wiht 5:30 left in the fourth, right after Dallas scored and Jerry Jones started shaking hands like the game was over

I could not agree more. I was pretty down when we blew that coverage during the commercial. I thought all my hopes and dreams were down the toilet. Then I looked around at my dad and Melissa and said if we can score here, make a stop and score again we win. It's like they don't realize that anything can happen in the game.

I remember years past being in that situation going oh **** Eli, here we go, can you do it again or are you going to **** up. Now I just sit back and wait for Eli to do it and kill it like always.

Our O-Line did so good. They didn't even sack Eli once and only hit him twice. Why did we sign Baas?

Weatherford has been killin it to. Props on JR for bringing him in.

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 11:50 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
The Clippers?? Is that a barbershop in the hood??
lmfaoo hahahahahaa goood ****.

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 11:54 AM
Awesome win last night. Another game that going into the end of the game trailing, I had that "whatever, we're going to win here" feeling. It's a good feeling knowing Eli will win games.

that being said, I'm really concerned about our defense still, giving up such huge plays in the secondary. Ross got burned and beat like 8 times last night. Our LBs looked like a bunch of rookies...oh wait... =P
JPP is our saviour thank god....making all the huge plays when we needed him too. AND he was chasing dudes down like a LB. What a freak of nature that kid is. I love it.

We really need to get healthy, and our secondary needs to stop being terrible. lol</p>Its GREAT to win, but there were many issues last nite

1. Kevin Boothe needs to take snapping lessons from DeOssie, way too many wayward snaps last nite

2. Our 2ndary played TERRIBLE last nite.

3. Boley is good, Kiwi is getting better, and then we have nothing for our 3rd LB spot

4,* Prince showed that he isnt ready to start (ugh I HATE Aaron Ross)

5. The on the field communication when we were on D was abysmal!!!! Webby and Prince each had plays where they were running zone when the rest of the team ran man coverage (look at that pitiful 70yd td)

6. Oh yea David Diehl DOES suck at LT, cant believe some of you forgot that


On the good side... ELI, Canty, Our WRs, Mitch Petrus
Great points-kase. Eli managed to adjust so some terrible snaps. Linebacker depth is scary. Kiwi was all over the place. Prince showed what a rookie cb with very limited experience should look like. Communication needs to get fixed quickly with the defense. Those wr's were WIDE open.It was painful to watch the replays.* Just about every 20+ yd completion was due to blown coverage and missed assignments.* I dont know wtf happened, its not like our guys were close to the routes, they straight up were running the wrong plays

2ndary is playing man coverage and all of a sudden Prince, Webby, or Ross just gives up on the route (it looked like they thought they were supposed to be in zone, but the play on the field was a man play) and there is NO safety help from over the top which says to me they were in man coverage or else we would have the safetys playing centerfield, cause they werent blitzing or attacking the LOS

Once Again Brandon 'The Bully-Dozer' Jacobs is one badass mothaluva
At a minimum if we can fix the communication issues-that will slow down huge passing yardage that is being put up on us. Similar stuff in New Orleans. Last night we were fortunate, we got some run game going and the dallas d could not stop us. If we don't fix our defense and we go against a very good defense , I think we will have a hard time pulling a win out.

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 11:55 AM
"The best thing is we got our season back tonight," team CEO John Mara
said. "It would be nice to have an easy win for a change, but I don't
know if that is in our DNA." lol

"JPP for president. JPP for president," Tuck bellowed.

"We've been in these situations before," said Manning, who threw for 400
yards and two touchdowns. "It is nothing new. I don't like being in the
situations. It is becoming a bad habit but we find ways to overcome it <u>
and it is a fun way to win</u>." lol
<u>
This team takes weeks off your life every game...</u>
NO ITS NOT ELI!!! lol

youre right, i felt like my heart was going to explode i get to anxious

lttaylor56
12-12-2011, 11:55 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
The Clippers?? Is that a barbershop in the hood??
lmfaoo hahahahahaa goood ****.
Speaking of I think LT needs a shape up.

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 11:57 AM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.


#poeticjustice
you were killing that kid in your facebook war of words until you dropped the #. and he called you a *** lol


haha i still owned him. I love it when peoples last resort is to attack the hash tag...
it lets me know i've won

the greatest ever was in Landos fits of rage last week over the CP3 trade being rejected, his facebook was filled with hash tags

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 11:59 AM
is Eli 1000 yards away from breaking Marinos record with 3 games to go?

#whoooofa

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 12:00 PM
and dezz if u really liked last night, they tried **** talking when i went to bed... go read my responses today. They haven't replied yet :(

JPizzack
12-12-2011, 12:05 PM
I dont know if I blame that entire passing play on Prince. That was a deep ball, and there was no safety help in sight. I mean he did get beat, but it was still bad defense. That's why they kept showing Grant on tv after that play "where were you on that one, safety guy?!" lol

Kase-1
12-12-2011, 12:11 PM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.
The Clippers?? Is that a barbershop in the hood??
whats skips excuse for the boys this morning.
No clue, its been the damned Tebow Show all morning. I turned it on late but they replay it at noon so ill see

The more I watch Steven A go up against Skip, the more I LOVE Steven A and despise Skip..... Skip is such a disrespectful piece of trash
i thought it was funny when tony saragoosa was interviewing tebow and at the end tebow looks dead into the camera and goes "God bless you" lmao. must of drove haters nuts.
He's SUCH a polarizing character, ya either hate him or love him. Personally Im a well documented Tebow fan and think he has some of the best interviews of all time, he's amazing when speaking to the press

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 12:12 PM
I dont know if I blame that entire passing play on Prince. That was a deep ball, and there was no safety help in sight. I mean he did get beat, but it was still bad defense. That's why they kept showing Grant on tv after that play "where were you on that one, safety guy?!" lolprobably by the line of scrimmage. i think iv hit a point where id like to tc retire just so we can get rid of perry. enough is enough. he is ****ing putrid. theres no if and or buts about it. gilbrides been decent lately but the first trip to the redzone after nicks huge catch. hooorrrible playcalling, and we got lucky on the 2 point conversion with that bull**** shotgun draw, AGAIN. hes so damn predictable sometimes.

Kase-1
12-12-2011, 12:15 PM
Now THAT was the Brandon Jacobs that Ive been a fan of for all these years, and stuck up for all season long!!!

Jacobs haters eat a fat djck, the Bully-dozer is in the building !!!!!!


as great as it was, im sorry it just further proves my argument on him earlier that he doesn't give the same effort game in and out.
Really Matt, you wanna start THAT argument up again!?!?!?!

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 12:16 PM
I dont know if I blame that entire passing play on Prince. That was a deep ball, and there was no safety help in sight. I mean he did get beat, but it was still bad defense. That's why they kept showing Grant on tv after that play "where were you on that one, safety guy?!" lolprobably by the line of scrimmage. i think iv hit a point where id like to tc retire just so we can get rid of perry. enough is enough. he is ****ing putrid. theres no if and or buts about it. gilbrides been decent lately but the first trip to the redzone after nicks huge catch. hooorrrible playcalling, and we got lucky on the 2 point conversion with that bull**** shotgun draw, AGAIN. hes so damn predictable sometimes.


honestly I didn't think we were going to run that play with Ware again

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 12:18 PM
Now THAT was the Brandon Jacobs that Ive been a fan of for all these years, and stuck up for all season long!!!

Jacobs haters eat a fat djck, the Bully-dozer is in the building !!!!!!


as great as it was, im sorry it just further proves my argument on him earlier that he doesn't give the same effort game in and out.
Really Matt, you wanna start THAT argument up again!?!?!?!


yea go to the film... go see his first step explosions compared to last night

significant difference

bigblue4417
12-12-2011, 12:19 PM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.


#poeticjustice
you were killing that kid in your facebook war of words until you dropped the #. and he called you a *** lol


haha i still owned him. I love it when peoples last resort is to attack the hash tag...
it lets me know i've won

the greatest ever was in Landos fits of rage last week over the CP3 trade being rejected, his facebook was filled with hash tags

I love how you get your jollies off on this. I copied it from the ESPN NBA Twitter Feed. I guess I will delete them next time so you don't get wood. lol

dezzzR
12-12-2011, 12:20 PM
i want to know what ab did

Kase-1
12-12-2011, 12:23 PM
Awesome win last night. Another game that going into the end of the game trailing, I had that "whatever, we're going to win here" feeling. It's a good feeling knowing Eli will win games.

that being said, I'm really concerned about our defense still, giving up such huge plays in the secondary. Ross got burned and beat like 8 times last night. Our LBs looked like a bunch of rookies...oh wait... =P
JPP is our saviour thank god....making all the huge plays when we needed him too. AND he was chasing dudes down like a LB. What a freak of nature that kid is. I love it.

We really need to get healthy, and our secondary needs to stop being terrible. lol</p>Its GREAT to win, but there were many issues last nite

1. Kevin Boothe needs to take snapping lessons from DeOssie, way too many wayward snaps last nite

2. Our 2ndary played TERRIBLE last nite.

3. Boley is good, Kiwi is getting better, and then we have nothing for our 3rd LB spot

4, Prince showed that he isnt ready to start (ugh I HATE Aaron Ross)

5. The on the field communication when we were on D was abysmal!!!! Webby and Prince each had plays where they were running zone when the rest of the team ran man coverage (look at that pitiful 70yd td)

6. Oh yea David Diehl DOES suck at LT, cant believe some of you forgot that


On the good side... ELI, Canty, Our WRs, Mitch Petrus
Great points-kase. Eli managed to adjust so some terrible snaps. Linebacker depth is scary. Kiwi was all over the place. Prince showed what a rookie cb with very limited experience should look like. Communication needs to get fixed quickly with the defense. Those wr's were WIDE open.

i find it amazing that you could say Diehl sucks with the job he did on Ware last night but blow Beatty....


Alright, I was over reacting a lil bit about Diehl. I still dont like him at LT

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 12:24 PM
Looks like Chris Paul is going to the Clippers.


#poeticjustice
you were killing that kid in your facebook war of words until you dropped the #. and he called you a *** lol


haha i still owned him. I love it when peoples last resort is to attack the hash tag...
it lets me know i've won

the greatest ever was in Landos fits of rage last week over the CP3 trade being rejected, his facebook was filled with hash tags

I love how you get your jollies off on this. I copied it from the ESPN NBA Twitter Feed. I guess I will delete them next time so you don't get wood. lol


#CP3Clipper

JPizzack
12-12-2011, 12:25 PM
is Eli 1000 yards away from breaking Marinos record with 3 games to go?

#whoooofa
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it's so awesome!!</P>


It's actually crazy that 4 QBs are possibly going to break that mark this year....nuts...</P>

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 12:26 PM
i want to know what ab did


HOLY ****ING ****!!! LMAO

i swear to god, Bradshaw is an animal. Like this dude is just all over. ALL walks of life I am at people are telling me stories about experiences with Bradshaw.

My buddies BDay was in Hackensack on Sat so me and blondie went out. His other friend who I never met before is a bouncer are that place TEAK or whatever in Hoboken. He was telling me how the night before Bradshaw came in all ****ed up and fell and **** lol.

Like its amazing how many people tell me **** about this guy.

MattMeyerBud
12-12-2011, 12:26 PM
Awesome win last night. Another game that going into the end of the game trailing, I had that "whatever, we're going to win here" feeling. It's a good feeling knowing Eli will win games.

that being said, I'm really concerned about our defense still, giving up such huge plays in the secondary. Ross got burned and beat like 8 times last night. Our LBs looked like a bunch of rookies...oh wait... =P
JPP is our saviour thank god....making all the huge plays when we needed him too. AND he was chasing dudes down like a LB. What a freak of nature that kid is. I love it.

We really need to get healthy, and our secondary needs to stop being terrible. lol</p>Its GREAT to win, but there were many issues last nite

1. Kevin Boothe needs to take snapping lessons from DeOssie, way too many wayward snaps last nite

2. Our 2ndary played TERRIBLE last nite.

3. Boley is good, Kiwi is getting better, and then we have nothing for our 3rd LB spot

4, Prince showed that he isnt ready to start (ugh I HATE Aaron Ross)

5. The on the field communication when we were on D was abysmal!!!! Webby and Prince each had plays where they were running zone when the rest of the team ran man coverage (look at that pitiful 70yd td)

6. Oh yea David Diehl DOES suck at LT, cant believe some of you forgot that


On the good side... ELI, Canty, Our WRs, Mitch Petrus
Great points-kase. Eli managed to adjust so some terrible snaps. Linebacker depth is scary. Kiwi was all over the place. Prince showed what a rookie cb with very limited experience should look like. Communication needs to get fixed quickly with the defense. Those wr's were WIDE open.

i find it amazing that you could say Diehl sucks with the job he did on Ware last night but blow Beatty....


Alright, I was over reacting a lil bit about Diehl. I still dont like him at LT


I don't care whose up there as long as they can play like the ydid last night