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lttaylor56
01-26-2012, 01:29 PM
your boyfriend says different
</P>


yea....where HAVE YOU been baby?</P>Yeah,,,,,what's up MMB, is the new guy trained at work yet?

Kase-1
01-26-2012, 01:35 PM
I do own 1 firearm, its a nice old mausberg that I keep clean and in running condition. Simply as a means of protecting my home, gotta watchout for those dope fiends running around robbing people
</p>


I have no interest in firearms, however I have been toying with the idea of getting a pistol permit just so I can have something in the house also. I don't think I'd ever need it, but, peace of mind is better than nothing i suppose.</p>Cant go wrong with a shotgun for home protection. #1 the sound of the shotgun ****ing is scary as hell to a burglar and #2 with a shotgun ya cant really miss if you're shooting at a burglar inside your house

dezzzR
01-26-2012, 02:13 PM
I do own 1 firearm, its a nice old mausberg that I keep clean and in running condition. Simply as a means of protecting my home, gotta watchout for those dope fiends running around robbing people
</p>


I have no interest in firearms, however I have been toying with the idea of getting a pistol permit just so I can have something in the house also. I don't think I'd ever need it, but, peace of mind is better than nothing i suppose.</p>Cant go wrong with a shotgun for home protection. #1 the sound of the shotgun ****ing is scary as hell to a burglar and #2 <u>with a shotgun ya cant really miss if you're shooting at a burglar inside your house </u>
lol if you miss from close range with a shotgun youre an awful shot. the bergs extremely fun to shoot. my friends got one. hes got a few assault rifles as well. he has a ruger mini m14 socom that shoots 5.56 natos. we rolled a boulder out on the range, set it up about 150 yards away. 200 rounds later, it was dust. We used an m4 too. Damn i need to get on the range.


piz, if you are thinking about home protection you can never go wrong with a revolver. They will never jam. although newer semi auto pistols dont really jam unless theyre really dirty.

Kase-1
01-26-2012, 02:19 PM
I do own 1 firearm, its a nice old mausberg that I keep clean and in running condition. Simply as a means of protecting my home, gotta watchout for those dope fiends running around robbing people
</p>


I have no interest in firearms, however I have been toying with the idea of getting a pistol permit just so I can have something in the house also. I don't think I'd ever need it, but, peace of mind is better than nothing i suppose.</p>Cant go wrong with a shotgun for home protection. #1 the sound of the shotgun ****ing is scary as hell to a burglar and #2 <u>with a shotgun ya cant really miss if you're shooting at a burglar inside your house </u>
lol if you miss from close range with a shotgun youre an awful shot. the bergs extremely fun to shoot. my friends got one. hes got a few assault rifles as well. he has a ruger mini m14 socom that shoots 5.56 natos. we rolled a boulder out on the range, set it up about 150 yards away. 200 rounds later, it was dust. We used an m4 too. Damn i need to get on the range.


piz, if you are thinking about home protection you can never go wrong with a revolver. They will never jam. although newer semi auto pistols dont really jam unless theyre really dirty.


What range do you go to?? I heard the one out in Calverton is good and outdoors, but its in the middle of f'n nowhere

MattMeyerBud
01-26-2012, 02:22 PM
your boyfriend says different
</p>


yea....where HAVE YOU been baby?</p>

trolled the pats boards a lil bit and been actually very busy at work...

im kind of the lead inspector in my department now...

besides that, I can't hear anymore about this game, i can't talk about it.

Its driving me insane, i need it to just happen already

MattMeyerBud
01-26-2012, 02:23 PM
your boyfriend says different
</p>


yea....where HAVE YOU been baby?</p>Yeah,,,,,what's up MMB, is the new guy trained at work yet?

for the most part

but my workload has increased dramatically... i get to do all the hard jobs now

dezzzR
01-26-2012, 02:32 PM
I do own 1 firearm, its a nice old mausberg that I keep clean and in running condition. Simply as a means of protecting my home, gotta watchout for those dope fiends running around robbing people
</p>


I have no interest in firearms, however I have been toying with the idea of getting a pistol permit just so I can have something in the house also. I don't think I'd ever need it, but, peace of mind is better than nothing i suppose.</p>Cant go wrong with a shotgun for home protection. #1 the sound of the shotgun ****ing is scary as hell to a burglar and #2 <u>with a shotgun ya cant really miss if you're shooting at a burglar inside your house </u>
lol if you miss from close range with a shotgun youre an awful shot. the bergs extremely fun to shoot. my friends got one. hes got a few assault rifles as well. he has a ruger mini m14 socom that shoots 5.56 natos. we rolled a boulder out on the range, set it up about 150 yards away. 200 rounds later, it was dust. We used an m4 too. Damn i need to get on the range.


piz, if you are thinking about home protection you can never go wrong with a revolver. They will never jam. although newer semi auto pistols dont really jam unless theyre really dirty.


What range do you go to?? I heard the one out in Calverton is good and outdoors, but its in the middle of f'n nowhere
yea iv been there. thats a nice range. not too bad as far as being in the middle of no where. one in uniondale we go to. most of my friends like going upstate more though cause they have fully automatic rifles and the employees from the shooting range are always telling us its illegal. they dont bust your balls upstate and vets and current service members shoot free or half off depending on how business is i guess.

Morehead State
01-26-2012, 02:48 PM
your boyfriend says different
</P>


yea....where HAVE YOU been baby?</P>


Yeah,,,,,what's up MMB, is the new guy trained at work yet?

for the most part

but my workload has increased dramatically... i get to do all the blowjobs now and I love it.
</P>


I figured as much.</P>

JPizzack
01-26-2012, 03:03 PM
that was barely creative. youre losing your touch, old man.

Morehead State
01-26-2012, 03:45 PM
that was barely creative. youre losing your touch, old man.</P>


Trust me Stickmiester......I still got it and always will.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-26-2012, 04:18 PM
that was barely creative. youre losing your touch, old man.</p>


Trust me Stickmiester......I still got it and always will.</p>

excellent come back, weak opener



(lobbed it up for u old man, we'll see if u still got it)

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 08:43 AM
Oh I just realized I forgot to tell you guys a crazy story....

So when I started with my company, I was told thatthe summer before we had a newer branch get robbed. But that was the only time we've ever been robbed.
I've since worked here 61/2 years. We've never been robbed....

Wellllllll on friday, someone robbed one of our tellers in the New Windsor branch, and the guy was caught literally hours later. lol
It wasnt a big deal, nobody got hurt, and the guy only cleaned out the one teller window...they never have more than a few grand on them cuz we typically use cash machines. I don't even know anyone out there.the "unicorn" did work there...but transfered out. =P

So I get home that night, my brother is cutting my hair, cleaning me upbefore the work Gala thing. And he's like...yo, craziest **** happened to me today. I was going to deposit my paycheck in New Windsor (heworks out there) and the ****in' place gotrobbed! Nobody knew till after the guy left!

I'm like WTF!?YOU WERE THERE?!?!?
"Yea man...I had to stay there for like 2 hours and fill out all these witness reports and tell cops if i saw him or heard anything happen. it was BS, i had to call my boss like 5 times cuz the policewouldnt let me back to work yet!"</P>


haha...madness</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 08:48 AM
Oh I just realized I forgot to tell you guys a crazy story....

So when I started with my company, I was told thatthe summer before we had a newer branch get robbed. But that was the only time we've ever been robbed.
I've since worked here 61/2 years. We've never been robbed....

Wellllllll on friday, someone robbed one of our tellers in the New Windsor branch, and the guy was caught literally hours later. lol
It wasnt a big deal, nobody got hurt, and the guy only cleaned out the one teller window...they never have more than a few grand on them cuz we typically use cash machines. I don't even know anyone out there.the "unicorn" did work there...but transfered out. =P

So I get home that night, my brother is cutting my hair, cleaning me upbefore the work Gala thing. And he's like...yo, craziest **** happened to me today. I was going to deposit my paycheck in New Windsor (heworks out there) and the ****in' place gotrobbed! Nobody knew till after the guy left!

I'm like WTF!?YOU WERE THERE?!?!?
"Yea man...I had to stay there for like 2 hours and fill out all these witness reports and tell cops if i saw him or heard anything happen. it was BS, i had to call my boss like 5 times cuz the policewouldnt let me back to work yet!"</p>


haha...madness</p>

did the guy say: JUST PUT THE ****IN MONEY IN THE BAG

i

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 08:53 AM
Oh I just realized I forgot to tell you guys a crazy story....

So when I started with my company, I was told thatthe summer before we had a newer branch get robbed. But that was the only time we've ever been robbed.
I've since worked here 61/2 years. We've never been robbed....

Wellllllll on friday, someone robbed one of our tellers in the New Windsor branch, and the guy was caught literally hours later. lol
It wasnt a big deal, nobody got hurt, and the guy only cleaned out the one teller window...they never have more than a few grand on them cuz we typically use cash machines. I don't even know anyone out there.the "unicorn" did work there...but transfered out. =P

So I get home that night, my brother is cutting my hair, cleaning me upbefore the work Gala thing. And he's like...yo, craziest **** happened to me today. I was going to deposit my paycheck in New Windsor (heworks out there) and the ****in' place gotrobbed! Nobody knew till after the guy left!

I'm like WTF!?YOU WERE THERE?!?!?
"Yea man...I had to stay there for like 2 hours and fill out all these witness reports and tell cops if i saw him or heard anything happen. it was BS, i had to call my boss like 5 times cuz the policewouldnt let me back to work yet!"</P>


haha...madness</P>




did the guy say: JUST PUT THE ****IN MONEY IN THE BAG

i
</P>


idk, the guy was an idiot though. 15 mins after it happened, every manager in the company was able to pull his surveilance photo off our closed circuit system.
The guy wasnt wearing a hat, mask, nothing...jsut a hoodie lol</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 08:53 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 08:54 AM
I still can't get past the part about your brother cutting your hair. Please tell me its what he does for a living.

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 09:03 AM
I still can't get past the part about your brother cutting your hair. Please tell me its what he does for a living.</P>


He got really good at cutting hair during high school. Don't know what else to say about it. lol
He alwyas got his hair cut ALOT, and after hanging out with my friend for awhile (who IS a barber) and just kinda learned how to do it. he's good

I dont know exactly what you'd call my brother's job. He's a tech for water treatment plants. that's all i really know lol</P>

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 09:05 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:07 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:09 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>

lol

you realize thats THEE defintion of TALK RADIO and all of these NFL32 type shows....

A buddy of mine wants to do an internet sports show. I told him i'd start spreading out to different message boards and get fans to come there. My idea was to figure out the most logical poster for each team and use them as the "TEAM FAN REPRESENTATIVE"

kind of a dump doesn't asnwer the question of how the food was

plenty of DUMPY looking places that serve great food. You were suppose to ask him how the food was

simple mission and u messed it up for the third time now

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:11 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>




lol

you realize thats THEE defintion of TALK RADIO and all of these NFL32 type shows....

A buddy of mine wants to do an internet sports show. I told him i'd start spreading out to different message boards and get fans to come there. My idea was to figure out the most logical poster for each team and use them as the "TEAM FAN REPRESENTATIVE"
</P>


But I have the juice. I have the personality. I have the strong opinions. And I have the smarts.</P>


The only problem is that I'm far too good looking for radio. I think we have to go straight to TV.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:11 AM
Oh I just realized I forgot to tell you guys a crazy story....

So when I started with my company, I was told thatthe summer before we had a newer branch get robbed. But that was the only time we've ever been robbed.
I've since worked here 61/2 years. We've never been robbed....

Wellllllll on friday, someone robbed one of our tellers in the New Windsor branch, and the guy was caught literally hours later. lol
It wasnt a big deal, nobody got hurt, and the guy only cleaned out the one teller window...they never have more than a few grand on them cuz we typically use cash machines. I don't even know anyone out there.the "unicorn" did work there...but transfered out. =P

So I get home that night, my brother is cutting my hair, cleaning me upbefore the work Gala thing. And he's like...yo, craziest **** happened to me today. I was going to deposit my paycheck in New Windsor (heworks out there) and the ****in' place gotrobbed! Nobody knew till after the guy left!

I'm like WTF!?YOU WERE THERE?!?!?
"Yea man...I had to stay there for like 2 hours and fill out all these witness reports and tell cops if i saw him or heard anything happen. it was BS, i had to call my boss like 5 times cuz the policewouldnt let me back to work yet!"</p>


haha...madness</p>




did the guy say: JUST PUT THE ****IN MONEY IN THE BAG

i
</p>


idk, the guy was an idiot though. 15 mins after it happened, every manager in the company was able to pull his surveilance photo off our closed circuit system.
The guy wasnt wearing a hat, mask, nothing...jsut a hoodie lol</p>

lol...

well he obviously put some thought into it

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 09:15 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>


</P>


I would totally listen to that so long as he promises to go at it with you lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:16 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>

I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:18 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</P>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:18 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>


</p>


I would totally listen to that so long as he promises to go at it with you lol</p>

I fear no man - just make sure u have Adam Schein on at the same time as well. I want him where he can't misquote me and hes not in control of the dump button like he is on NFL Sirus

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:20 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>


</P>


I would totally listen to that so long as he promises to go at it with you lol</P>




I fear no man - just make sure u have Adam Schein on at the same time as well. I want him where he can't misquote me and hes not in control of the dump button like he is on NFL Sirus
</P>


I would have thought that Schein's public humiliation of you on nationwide radio would have been too traumatic for you to revisit.</P>


Good for you.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:22 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>

if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:25 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>


</p>


I would totally listen to that so long as he promises to go at it with you lol</p>




I fear no man - just make sure u have Adam Schein on at the same time as well. I want him where he can't misquote me and hes not in control of the dump button like he is on NFL Sirus
</p>


I would have thought that Schein's public humiliation of you on nationwide radio would have been too traumatic for you to revisit.</p>


Good for you.</p>

well thats why I want him - he paraphrased me 3-4 sentences and changed the meeting

One of the greatest radio/tv voices, but one of the biggest morons there is

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:26 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</P>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</P>


But you have no bullets.</P>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</P>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</P>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:28 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>


</P>


I would totally listen to that so long as he promises to go at it with you lol</P>




I fear no man - just make sure u have Adam Schein on at the same time as well. I want him where he can't misquote me and hes not in control of the dump button like he is on NFL Sirus
</P>


I would have thought that Schein's public humiliation of you on nationwide radio would have been too traumatic for you to revisit.</P>


Good for you.</P>




well thats why I want him - he paraphrased me 3-4 sentences and changed the meeting

One of the greatest radio/tv voices, but one of the biggest morons there is
</P>


When he was so mean to you, all I thought was that I would have liked to give you a big hug at the time.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:31 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>

Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:33 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>


</p>


I would totally listen to that so long as he promises to go at it with you lol</p>




I fear no man - just make sure u have Adam Schein on at the same time as well. I want him where he can't misquote me and hes not in control of the dump button like he is on NFL Sirus
</p>


I would have thought that Schein's public humiliation of you on nationwide radio would have been too traumatic for you to revisit.</p>


Good for you.</p>




well thats why I want him - he paraphrased me 3-4 sentences and changed the meeting

One of the greatest radio/tv voices, but one of the biggest morons there is
</p>


When he was so mean to you, all I thought was that I would have liked to give you a big hug at the time.</p>

lol he wasn't mean hes a coward... he then kept me on hold and owuldn't pick up my call that day.

******* made me burn 110 minutes on my cell phone that day

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:35 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</P>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</P>


But you have no bullets.</P>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</P>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</P>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</P>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</P>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</P>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:36 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>


</P>


I would totally listen to that so long as he promises to go at it with you lol</P>




I fear no man - just make sure u have Adam Schein on at the same time as well. I want him where he can't misquote me and hes not in control of the dump button like he is on NFL Sirus
</P>


I would have thought that Schein's public humiliation of you on nationwide radio would have been too traumatic for you to revisit.</P>


Good for you.</P>




well thats why I want him - he paraphrased me 3-4 sentences and changed the meeting

One of the greatest radio/tv voices, but one of the biggest morons there is
</P>


When he was so mean to you, all I thought was that I would have liked to give you a big hug at the time.</P>




lol he wasn't mean hes a coward... he then kept me on hold and owuldn't pick up my call that day.

******* made me burn 110 minutes on my cell phone that day
</P>


I was talking about your Tony Gonzalez/ Kevin Boss email.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:44 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</p>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</p>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</p>

thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:48 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>


</p>


I would totally listen to that so long as he promises to go at it with you lol</p>




I fear no man - just make sure u have Adam Schein on at the same time as well. I want him where he can't misquote me and hes not in control of the dump button like he is on NFL Sirus
</p>


I would have thought that Schein's public humiliation of you on nationwide radio would have been too traumatic for you to revisit.</p>


Good for you.</p>




well thats why I want him - he paraphrased me 3-4 sentences and changed the meeting

One of the greatest radio/tv voices, but one of the biggest morons there is
</p>


When he was so mean to you, all I thought was that I would have liked to give you a big hug at the time.</p>




lol he wasn't mean hes a coward... he then kept me on hold and owuldn't pick up my call that day.

******* made me burn 110 minutes on my cell phone that day
</p>


I was talking about your Tony Gonzalez/ Kevin Boss email.</p>

i know exactly what you were talking about... he paraphrased my point and that took it out of context

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:52 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</P>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</P>


But you have no bullets.</P>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</P>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</P>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</P>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</P>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</P>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</P>




thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</P>


Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </P>


Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:52 AM
and btw... even with Kevin Boss out and the fact that we busted with the picks we could of traded- i still say i was right

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 09:55 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</p>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</p>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</p>




thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</p>


Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </p>


Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</p>

Pappy mickey'd his drink

I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:55 AM
Meyerbud...."Son, did you know that I once knew the man they call Morehead State?"</P>


Meyerbud Jr....."like 100 times Dad, and I still don't believe you.. Now have another beer and go write another letter to Adam Shein"</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:57 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</P>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</P>


But you have no bullets.</P>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</P>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</P>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</P>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</P>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</P>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</P>




thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</P>


Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </P>


Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</P>




Pappy mickey'd his drink

I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
</P>


I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 09:59 AM
Your opinion that Eli still sucks as badly as he did last season is not backed up by the facts.

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 10:08 AM
thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</P>


Alot of shows in recent history have been starting as Pod Casts. If you market yourself well, you can get noticed and get quite a following</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 10:10 AM
Meyerbud...."Son, did you know that I once knew the man they call Morehead State?"</p>


Meyerbud Jr....."like 100 times Dad, and I still don't believe you.. Now have another beer and go write another letter to Adam Shein"</p>

lol u gotta stop going out to dinner wtih Roman Oben

u get too excited the next day

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 10:19 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</p>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</p>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</p>




thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</p>


Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </p>


Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</p>




Pappy mickey'd his drink

I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
</p>


I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</p>

and like i've told you countless times

Eli progresses EVERY year, that is nothing new. The degree that you THINK hes improved really isn't realistic.

Alot of things you ragged on him for last season, he still does this year. Your just judging off of the end result of the play and not the player himself - regardless of what u say.

He still throws into crowds like he did last year, you use to CONSTANTLY ***** about that. I pointed out how he gets balls into sick windows.

We talked about a comfort level of WRs being onthe same page and seeing the same thing eli says, your response: your an eli homer.

Throwing off his back foot? Stop it pappy, it still happens.

High interception rate? Its CONSTANT in a Kevin Gilbride offense (because the passing game is based around the run n shoot). He still had 16 INTs this year. Take away the god awful tipped INTs last year and he would of been on par with the same type of ACCURACY performance.

Not only that, this year he has Victor Cruz who is making his performance look EVEN BETTER than it actually is. Cruz has completely opened up the whole offense and has turned small plays into huge plays...

Sorry pappy, everybody that has witnessed our debates knows your wrong. But on the bright side, because of that argument I do believe your a perfect fit for ESPN. You can't admit your wrong, backtrack and sidetrack to just take the heat off yourself, and everything you base your opinion on is stats and not actually watching the game

I &lt;3 U

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 10:22 AM
thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</p>


Alot of shows in recent history have been starting as Pod Casts. If you market yourself well, you can get noticed and get quite a following</p>

yea I know

so thats my goal basically... to post around the NFL message board leagues get familiar wtih most the regulars and figure out who could be a good representative for the teams fan base

Then once we get it going, hopfully with a more local feel to it. Do a live show at a bar and try and get an athlete to interview a week, while promoting a bar night.

Then take over the world

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 10:24 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, <u>and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</u></p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7481235/chris-brown-victor-cruz-new-york-giants

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 10:24 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, <u>and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</u></p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7481235/chris-brown-victor-cruz-new-york-giants

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 10:25 AM
thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</P>


Alot of shows in recent history have been starting as Pod Casts. If you market yourself well, you can get noticed and get quite a following</P>




yea I know

so thats my goal basically... to post around the NFL message board leagues get familiar wtih most the regulars and figure out who could be a good representative for the teams fan base

Then once we get it going, hopfully with a more local feel to it. Do a live show at a bar and try and get an athlete to interview a week, while promoting a bar night.

Then take over the world


</P>


you should totally do it in Poughkeepsie, jussayin'</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 10:27 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</P>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</P>


But you have no bullets.</P>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</P>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</P>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</P>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</P>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</P>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</P>




thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</P>


Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </P>


Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</P>




Pappy mickey'd his drink

I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
</P>


I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</P>




and like i've told you countless times

Eli progresses EVERY year, that is nothing new. The degree that you THINK hes improved really isn't realistic.

Alot of things you ragged on him for last season, he still does this year. Your just judging off of the end result of the play and not the player himself - regardless of what u say.

He still throws into crowds like he did last year, you use to CONSTANTLY ***** about that. I pointed out how he gets balls into sick windows.

We talked about a comfort level of WRs being onthe same page and seeing the same thing eli says, your response: your an eli homer.

Throwing off his back foot? Stop it pappy, it still happens.

High interception rate? Its CONSTANT in a Kevin Gilbride offense (because the passing game is based around the run n shoot). He still had 16 INTs this year. Take away the god awful tipped INTs last year and he would of been on par with the same type of ACCURACY performance.

Not only that, this year he has Victor Cruz who is making his performance look EVEN BETTER than it actually is. Cruz has completely opened up the whole offense and has turned small plays into huge plays...

Sorry pappy, everybody that has witnessed our debates knows your wrong. But on the bright side, because of that argument I do believe your a perfect fit for ESPN. You can't admit your wrong, backtrack and sidetrack to just take the heat off yourself, and everything you base your opinion on is stats and not actually watching the game

I &lt;3 U
</P>


Getting you to type thisranting post is all the validation I need. You have become Daven.</P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT size=4>I am the puppetmaster.</FONT></P>


http://theneave.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/PuppetMaster.jpg</P>


<FONT size=5>Dance Meyerbud!!!!!!!</FONT></P>

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 10:28 AM
Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7481235/chris-brown-victor-cruz-new-york-giants
</P>


lmao. i read that last week and all i thought about was MMB/MH constantly arguing over it.</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 10:36 AM
Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7481235/chris-brown-victor-cruz-new-york-giants
</P>


lmao. i read that last week and all i thought about was MMB/MH constantly arguing over it.</P>


</P>


This writer has no idea what the run and shoot offense is.</P>


Its 4 WR's. No TE's. A bunch of crossing patterns and a three step drop passing attack. </P>


The Giants play a downfield, vertical passing game and a power run game. They often have 2 TE's on the field at the same time. Sometimes they even bring in an extra OT (We've seen Tony Ugoh on the filed many times. This is the opposite of the run and shoot.</P>


We saw the run and shoot in Houston, Detroit and Atlanta. They all died to failure. The NFL athletes are too good and there is far too much exposure for the QB.</P>


If his view is that since the Giants have a slot receiver that makes them a run and shoot offense, thats crazy. Every team has slot recievers. </P>


The run and shoot died about 15 years ago and is only seen in college and high school. QB's were getting killed.</P>


Show some knowledge people.</P>


</P>

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 10:38 AM
For the record....not that MH respects my opinion or anything....but i basically disagree with everything he says about Eli. lol
I mean, i think we all agree this year was amazing, but Eli hasn't changed. He has the tools to get it done, and it shows.

I like where the team is going in terms of figuring out what we need. Clearly they have been trying to rebuild this O-line, and i think that's the way we go in the draft this year. We got quite a few years left of this team staying top tier talent!

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 10:41 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, <u>and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</u></p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7481235/chris-brown-victor-cruz-new-york-giants


LMFAO

i love it

how long have i been saying that?

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 10:43 AM
thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</p>


Alot of shows in recent history have been starting as Pod Casts. If you market yourself well, you can get noticed and get quite a following</p>




yea I know

so thats my goal basically... to post around the NFL message board leagues get familiar wtih most the regulars and figure out who could be a good representative for the teams fan base

Then once we get it going, hopfully with a more local feel to it. Do a live show at a bar and try and get an athlete to interview a week, while promoting a bar night.

Then take over the world


</p>


you should totally do it in Poughkeepsie, jussayin'</p>

well the plan is to get it going and figure out where we could draw the most people

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 10:45 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</p>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</p>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</p>




thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</p>


Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </p>


Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</p>




Pappy mickey'd his drink

I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
</p>


I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</p>




and like i've told you countless times

Eli progresses EVERY year, that is nothing new. The degree that you THINK hes improved really isn't realistic.

Alot of things you ragged on him for last season, he still does this year. Your just judging off of the end result of the play and not the player himself - regardless of what u say.

He still throws into crowds like he did last year, you use to CONSTANTLY ***** about that. I pointed out how he gets balls into sick windows.

We talked about a comfort level of WRs being onthe same page and seeing the same thing eli says, your response: your an eli homer.

Throwing off his back foot? Stop it pappy, it still happens.

High interception rate? Its CONSTANT in a Kevin Gilbride offense (because the passing game is based around the run n shoot). He still had 16 INTs this year. Take away the god awful tipped INTs last year and he would of been on par with the same type of ACCURACY performance.

Not only that, this year he has Victor Cruz who is making his performance look EVEN BETTER than it actually is. Cruz has completely opened up the whole offense and has turned small plays into huge plays...

Sorry pappy, everybody that has witnessed our debates knows your wrong. But on the bright side, because of that argument I do believe your a perfect fit for ESPN. You can't admit your wrong, backtrack and sidetrack to just take the heat off yourself, and everything you base your opinion on is stats and not actually watching the game

I &lt;3 U
</p>


Getting you to type thisranting post is all the validation I need. You have become Daven.</p>


</p>


</p>


<font size="4">I am the puppetmaster.</font></p>


http://theneave.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/PuppetMaster.jpg</p>


<font size="5">Dance Meyerbud!!!!!!!</font></p>

http://edtech.boisestate.edu/bridges/cds/Graphing/Images/Webstudents2.jpg

school is in session old man, take notes

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 10:46 AM
Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7481235/chris-brown-victor-cruz-new-york-giants
</p>


lmao. i read that last week and all i thought about was MMB/MH constantly arguing over it.</p>


</p>


This writer has no idea what the run and shoot offense is.</p>


Its 4 WR's. No TE's. A bunch of crossing patterns and a three step drop passing attack. </p>


The Giants play a downfield, vertical passing game and a power run game. They often have 2 TE's on the field at the same time. Sometimes they even bring in an extra OT (We've seen Tony Ugoh on the filed many times. This is the opposite of the run and shoot.</p>


We saw the run and shoot in Houston, Detroit and Atlanta. They all died to failure. The NFL athletes are too good and there is far too much exposure for the QB.</p>


If his view is that since the Giants have a slot receiver that makes them a run and shoot offense, thats crazy. Every team has slot recievers. </p>


The run and shoot died about 15 years ago and is only seen in college and high school. QB's were getting killed.</p>


Show some knowledge people.</p>


</p>The writer isnt saying we run a run and shoot offense though. Hes saying we take parts and pieces from the scheme, like the wrs routes. And thats nonsense, Iv seen plenty of crossing patterns this year. PLENTY, thats where many of those big tds come from. Like nicks against Atlanta (ran past 4 guys in the middle) and greenbay when he bounced off a defender and was gone. I think its very clear that Gilbride has taken some parts from the run and shoot and incorporated them into OUR system.

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 10:47 AM
Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7481235/chris-brown-victor-cruz-new-york-giants
</p>


lmao. i read that last week and all i thought about was MMB/MH constantly arguing over it.</p>


</p>


This writer has no idea what the run and shoot offense is.</p>


Its 4 WR's. No TE's. A bunch of crossing patterns and a three step drop passing attack. </p>


The Giants play a downfield, vertical passing game and a power run game. They often have 2 TE's on the field at the same time. Sometimes they even bring in an extra OT (We've seen Tony Ugoh on the filed many times. This is the opposite of the run and shoot.</p>


We saw the run and shoot in Houston, Detroit and Atlanta. They all died to failure. The NFL athletes are too good and there is far too much exposure for the QB.</p>


If his view is that since the Giants have a slot receiver that makes them a run and shoot offense, thats crazy. Every team has slot recievers. </p>


The run and shoot died about 15 years ago and is only seen in college and high school. QB's were getting killed.</p>


Show some knowledge people.</p>


</p>

your focusing too much on formation for the run and shoot. Like I said and the article says (which u obviously didn't read fully) is that its not a true run and shoot offense.

Like I said before, its a hybrid-balanced run and shoot. MANY of the passing traits in our offense are straight out of the Run and Shoot offense.

This article explains it perfectly. Welcome to reality

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 10:50 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


Also,</P>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


</P>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


</P>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</P>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</P>


But you have no bullets.</P>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</P>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</P>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</P>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</P>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</P>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</P>




thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</P>


Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </P>


Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</P>




Pappy mickey'd his drink

I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
</P>


I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</P>




and like i've told you countless times

Eli progresses EVERY year, that is nothing new. The degree that you THINK hes improved really isn't realistic.

Alot of things you ragged on him for last season, he still does this year. Your just judging off of the end result of the play and not the player himself - regardless of what u say.

He still throws into crowds like he did last year, you use to CONSTANTLY ***** about that. I pointed out how he gets balls into sick windows.

We talked about a comfort level of WRs being onthe same page and seeing the same thing eli says, your response: your an eli homer.

Throwing off his back foot? Stop it pappy, it still happens.

High interception rate? Its CONSTANT in a Kevin Gilbride offense (because the passing game is based around the run n shoot). He still had 16 INTs this year. Take away the god awful tipped INTs last year and he would of been on par with the same type of ACCURACY performance.

Not only that, this year he has Victor Cruz who is making his performance look EVEN BETTER than it actually is. Cruz has completely opened up the whole offense and has turned small plays into huge plays...

Sorry pappy, everybody that has witnessed our debates knows your wrong. But on the bright side, because of that argument I do believe your a perfect fit for ESPN. You can't admit your wrong, backtrack and sidetrack to just take the heat off yourself, and everything you base your opinion on is stats and not actually watching the game

I &lt;3 U
</P>


Getting you to type thisranting post is all the validation I need. You have become Daven.</P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT size=4>I am the puppetmaster.</FONT></P>


http://theneave.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/PuppetMaster.jpg</P>


<FONT size=5>Dance Meyerbud!!!!!!!</FONT></P>




http://edtech.boisestate.edu/bridges/cds/Graphing/Images/Webstudents2.jpg

school is in session old man, take notes
</P>


Matt,</P>


A guy who played in the run and shoot says that the Giants offense is nothing like it.</P>


By your logic, you could say that almost every team plays a version of the run and shoot. You do not know of what you speak.</P>

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 10:53 AM
For the record....not that MH respects my opinion or anything....but i basically disagree with everything he says about Eli. lol
I mean, i think we all agree this year was amazing, but Eli hasn't changed. He has the tools to get it done, and it shows.

I like where the team is going in terms of figuring out what we need. Clearly they have been trying to rebuild this O-line, and i think that's the way we go in the draft this year. We got quite a few years left of this team staying top tier talent!Morehead has been right about one thing, Eli has been more patient in the pocket. Other than that I think Elis been playing like he always has but this year the wrs are really gelling with him. Its really been exciting to watch. Other than Tikis insane year this is the greatest offensive performance Iv ever seen from this team. Gives me goosebumps.

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 10:56 AM
The writer isnt saying we run a run and shoot offense though. Hes saying we take parts and pieces from the scheme, like the wrs routes. And thats nonsense, Iv seen plenty of crossing patterns this year. PLENTY, thats where many of those big tds come from. Like nicks against Atlanta (ran past 4 guys in the middle) and greenbay when he bounced off a defender and was gone. I think its very clear that Gilbride has taken some parts from the run and shoot and incorporated them into OUR system.
</P>


WAIT!! So youre saying that Kevin Gilbride, the guy that ran the Oilers offense using the run and shoot....might actually use pieces of thatwith the team he coaches now?!
**** YOU DEZZ, YOURE CRAZY!!!!</P>


lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 10:57 AM
For the record....not that MH respects my opinion or anything....but i basically disagree with everything he says about Eli. lol
I mean, i think we all agree this year was amazing, but Eli hasn't changed. He has the tools to get it done, and it shows.

I like where the team is going in terms of figuring out what we need. Clearly they have been trying to rebuild this O-line, and i think that's the way we go in the draft this year. We got quite a few years left of this team staying top tier talent!

well I don't want to say he hasn't changed because I do think hes gotten better. I think he gets better ever year.

I think his pocket presence has increased, but i don't think its just that: ELIS POCKET PRESENCE HAS DRAMATICALLY INCREASED BECAUSE HES BETTER NOW. Personally I think it has to do wtih the line. I think Eli had a better line every year compared to this year and maybe had too much confidence in him. This year he knows theres going to be leaks so hes more willing to move back there and he has picked his awareness up.

Also the whole Eli throws scared and off his back foot thing is the most inconsistent argument about him ever. He still does it when he has to when hes about to get hit. Moorehead had no problem with it this year because those balls got there and were completed, which totally goes against his "watching the player" stance he takes.

I think personally eli stats last year didn't represent the kind of year he had. This year i'm not in agreement that Eli's play is the reaosn we are in the superbowl. I mean, he did win some games for us, but it was simiilar play that we've gotten out of him the past 2 years. The biggest difference was that the defense woke up in the very last minute this year and thats been the difference for us. Our offense has been pretty consistant, big play high scoring, high turnovers. Although this year I think the RBs deserve credit for not spitting the bit

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 11:00 AM
btw, that article said we were a wild card team &gt;.&lt; whoops.

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 11:07 AM
My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


Also,</p>


Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


"Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


</p>


sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


</p>


Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>




I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


</p>


In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>




if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
</p>


But you have no bullets.</p>


I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</p>


Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>




Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
</p>


I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</p>


Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</p>




thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
</p>


Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </p>


Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</p>




Pappy mickey'd his drink

I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
</p>


I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</p>




and like i've told you countless times

Eli progresses EVERY year, that is nothing new. The degree that you THINK hes improved really isn't realistic.

Alot of things you ragged on him for last season, he still does this year. Your just judging off of the end result of the play and not the player himself - regardless of what u say.

He still throws into crowds like he did last year, you use to CONSTANTLY ***** about that. I pointed out how he gets balls into sick windows.

We talked about a comfort level of WRs being onthe same page and seeing the same thing eli says, your response: your an eli homer.

Throwing off his back foot? Stop it pappy, it still happens.

High interception rate? Its CONSTANT in a Kevin Gilbride offense (because the passing game is based around the run n shoot). He still had 16 INTs this year. Take away the god awful tipped INTs last year and he would of been on par with the same type of ACCURACY performance.

Not only that, this year he has Victor Cruz who is making his performance look EVEN BETTER than it actually is. Cruz has completely opened up the whole offense and has turned small plays into huge plays...

Sorry pappy, everybody that has witnessed our debates knows your wrong. But on the bright side, because of that argument I do believe your a perfect fit for ESPN. You can't admit your wrong, backtrack and sidetrack to just take the heat off yourself, and everything you base your opinion on is stats and not actually watching the game

I &lt;3 U
</p>


Getting you to type thisranting post is all the validation I need. You have become Daven.</p>


</p>


</p>


<font size="4">I am the puppetmaster.</font></p>


http://theneave.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/PuppetMaster.jpg</p>


<font size="5">Dance Meyerbud!!!!!!!</font></p>




http://edtech.boisestate.edu/bridges/cds/Graphing/Images/Webstudents2.jpg

school is in session old man, take notes
</p>


Matt,</p>


A guy who played in the run and shoot says that the Giants offense is nothing like it.</p>


By your logic, you could say that almost every team plays a version of the run and shoot. You do not know of what you speak.</p>

http://www.oliveshirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Darth-Vader-Whos-Your-Daddy-T-Shirt.gif

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 11:08 AM
For the record....not that MH respects my opinion or anything....but i basically disagree with everything he says about Eli. lol
I mean, i think we all agree this year was amazing, but Eli hasn't changed. He has the tools to get it done, and it shows.

I like where the team is going in terms of figuring out what we need. Clearly they have been trying to rebuild this O-line, and i think that's the way we go in the draft this year. We got quite a few years left of this team staying top tier talent!Morehead has been right about one thing, Eli has been more patient in the pocket. Other than that I think Elis been playing like he always has but this year the wrs are really gelling with him. Its really been exciting to watch. Other than Tikis insane year this is the greatest offensive performance Iv ever seen from this team. Gives me goosebumps.


its a difference of comfort and being on the same page with the WRs....

I don't think hes been more patient, if anything I think he use to be TOO patient

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 11:09 AM
The writer isnt saying we run a run and shoot offense though. Hes saying we take parts and pieces from the scheme, like the wrs routes. And thats nonsense, Iv seen plenty of crossing patterns this year. PLENTY, thats where many of those big tds come from. Like nicks against Atlanta (ran past 4 guys in the middle) and greenbay when he bounced off a defender and was gone. I think its very clear that Gilbride has taken some parts from the run and shoot and incorporated them into OUR system.
</p>


WAIT!! So youre saying that Kevin Gilbride, the guy that ran the Oilers offense using the run and shoot....might actually use pieces of thatwith the team he coaches now?!
**** YOU DEZZ, YOURE CRAZY!!!!</p>


lol</p>

lol

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 11:17 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense

sorry but this basically describes our personnell

4 wide receivers is a misconception. Your forgetting that slotbacks were a big part of the offense... which Travin Beckum defines by the way (and u guys know I hate him).

If your suggesting that Mouse Davis AND Kevin Gilbride ran their run and shoot the same exact way. Tim Hasselback has said on NFL Live before that he was with Gilbride and he helped create the philosophies of the offense and that their passing game is completely based out of the run and shoot

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 11:19 AM
<h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Key_concepts">Key concepts</span></h3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</p>
<ul> Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the
receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find
him in time to get him the ball. If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This
means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front
will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The
"box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive
tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end
on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of
scrimmage. Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and
anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the
defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing
man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).[/list]


</p>

---</p>


</p>

i'll own u on this all day ol man
</p>

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 11:23 AM
</P>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</P>


</P>


you assume that he'd admit it and back down....but you know its not the case, so.......yea...</P>

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 11:24 AM
The writer isnt saying we run a run and shoot offense though. Hes saying we take parts and pieces from the scheme, like the wrs routes. And thats nonsense, Iv seen plenty of crossing patterns this year. PLENTY, thats where many of those big tds come from. Like nicks against Atlanta (ran past 4 guys in the middle) and greenbay when he bounced off a defender and was gone. I think its very clear that Gilbride has taken some parts from the run and shoot and incorporated them into OUR system.
</p>


WAIT!! So youre saying that Kevin Gilbride, the guy that ran the Oilers offense using the run and shoot....might actually use pieces of thatwith the team he coaches now?!
**** YOU DEZZ, YOURE CRAZY!!!!</p>


lol</p>lol when you put it like that.....just accept it mh.

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 11:27 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense

sorry but this basically describes our personnell

4 wide receivers is a misconception. Your forgetting that slotbacks were a big part of the offense... which Travin Beckum defines by the way<u> (and u guys know I hate him). </u>

If your suggesting that Mouse Davis AND Kevin Gilbride ran their run and shoot the same exact way. Tim Hasselback has said on NFL Live before that he was with Gilbride and he helped create the philosophies of the offense and that their passing game is completely based out of the run and shoot
a misguided hate.

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 11:31 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense

sorry but this basically describes our personnell

4 wide receivers is a misconception. Your forgetting that slotbacks were a big part of the offense... which Travin Beckum defines by the way<u> (and u guys know I hate him). </u>

If your suggesting that Mouse Davis AND Kevin Gilbride ran their run and shoot the same exact way. Tim Hasselback has said on NFL Live before that he was with Gilbride and he helped create the philosophies of the offense and that their passing game is completely based out of the run and shoot
a misguided hate.


a truthful hate...

thanks for the tix ;)

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 11:36 AM
Today I learned that there is an actual Jedi church. During the past 3 years of census, although member's selected Jedi as their religion, the results posted this as "other" or "participant did not understand question", this despite wicka, satanism, yogaand voodoo being acceptable responses...lmao

I totally want to convert. well, if im not religious, is it really converting?</P>


</P>

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 11:49 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense

sorry but this basically describes our personnell

4 wide receivers is a misconception. Your forgetting that slotbacks were a big part of the offense... which Travin Beckum defines by the way<U> (and u guys know I hate him). </U>

If your suggesting that Mouse Davis AND Kevin Gilbride ran their run and shoot the same exact way. Tim Hasselback has said on NFL Live before that he was with Gilbride and he helped create the philosophies of the offense and that their passing game is completely based out of the run and shoot
a misguided hate.


a truthful hate...

thanks for the tix ;)
</P>


Did you tell Dezz what we were talking about at the GB game?!
"I wonder if Dezz actually bought these tickets after losing the bet....what section did he say he sat in again!? WHO GIVES UP GREEN BAY TICKETS?!?!?!" lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 11:52 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense

sorry but this basically describes our personnell

4 wide receivers is a misconception. Your forgetting that slotbacks were a big part of the offense... which Travin Beckum defines by the way<u> (and u guys know I hate him). </u>

If your suggesting that Mouse Davis AND Kevin Gilbride ran their run and shoot the same exact way. Tim Hasselback has said on NFL Live before that he was with Gilbride and he helped create the philosophies of the offense and that their passing game is completely based out of the run and shoot
a misguided hate.


a truthful hate...

thanks for the tix ;)
</p>


Did you tell Dezz what we were talking about at the GB game?!
"I wonder if Dezz actually bought these tickets after losing the bet....what section did he say he sat in again!? WHO GIVES UP GREEN BAY TICKETS?!?!?!" lol</p>

lol i dunno i might have

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 11:53 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense

sorry but this basically describes our personnell

4 wide receivers is a misconception. Your forgetting that slotbacks were a big part of the offense... which Travin Beckum defines by the way<u> (and u guys know I hate him). </u>

If your suggesting that Mouse Davis AND Kevin Gilbride ran their run and shoot the same exact way. Tim Hasselback has said on NFL Live before that he was with Gilbride and he helped create the philosophies of the offense and that their passing game is completely based out of the run and shoot
a misguided hate.


a truthful hate...

thanks for the tix ;)
yea he even showed off for you. like i said, he shows flashes and is a very versatile player. He might not be the best blocker but hes a pretty good wr when we use him. As you saw, live, in person, with your own two eyes. haha

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 11:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense

sorry but this basically describes our personnell

4 wide receivers is a misconception. Your forgetting that slotbacks were a big part of the offense... which Travin Beckum defines by the way<u> (and u guys know I hate him). </u>

If your suggesting that Mouse Davis AND Kevin Gilbride ran their run and shoot the same exact way. Tim Hasselback has said on NFL Live before that he was with Gilbride and he helped create the philosophies of the offense and that their passing game is completely based out of the run and shoot
a misguided hate.


a truthful hate...

thanks for the tix ;)
</p>


Did you tell Dezz what we were talking about at the GB game?!
"I wonder if Dezz actually bought these tickets after losing the bet....what section did he say he sat in again!? WHO GIVES UP GREEN BAY TICKETS?!?!?!" lol</p>yes because im going to pay 300 bucks to settle a $100 bet. haters gonna hate!!

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 12:03 PM
Today I learned that there is an actual Jedi church. During the past 3 years of census, although member's selected Jedi as their religion, the results posted this as "other" or "participant did not understand question", this despite wicka, satanism, yogaand voodoo being acceptable responses...lmao

I totally want to convert. well, if im not religious, is it really converting?</p>


</p>wait a minute.....yogas a religion???

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 12:09 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 12:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8dIj37_Ni0&amp;feature=player_embedded

ray lewis after the pats loss.

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 12:26 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 12:43 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.


http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/9/13/e0ebf0c9-65d5-492e-aba1-c54538ce121e.jpg

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 12:51 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)
</P>


hmm...interesting. I accuse myself of it all the time. it's why im never able to gauge the performance of our o-line, or our LBs....
Im intrigued.</P>

Kase-1
01-27-2012, 01:00 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)
That actually sounds really cool. I watch the games as they are and try to gauge play off of the ball, but its tougher to do live rather than on the replay

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 01:13 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.


http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/9/13/e0ebf0c9-65d5-492e-aba1-c54538ce121e.jpg
lmao if you see that movie and dont cry at least once you have no soul.

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 01:33 PM
<H3><SPAN id=Key_concepts class=mw-headline>Key concepts</SPAN></H3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</P>
<UL>
<LI>Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
<LI>If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
<LI>Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).</LI>[/list]



</P>


---</P>



</P>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</P>


</P>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</P>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</P>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</P>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</P>

lttaylor56
01-27-2012, 02:05 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.


http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/9/13/e0ebf0c9-65d5-492e-aba1-c54538ce121e.jpg
God dammit stop taking that X.

lttaylor56
01-27-2012, 02:06 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)
</P>


hmm...interesting. I accuse myself of it all the time. it's why im never able to gauge the performance of our o-line, or our LBs....
Im intrigued.</P>Sounds very interesting.

lttaylor56
01-27-2012, 02:06 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)
</P>


hmm...interesting. I accuse myself of it all the time. it's why im never able to gauge the performance of our o-line, or our LBs....
Im intrigued.</P>Sounds very interesting.

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 02:11 PM
Well everybody, Morehead is leaving for St. Croix early tomorrow morning. I'll be back late Saturday night in time to mentally prepare for the game.</P>


Matt.....Keep thinking that since the Giants use motion in their offense, it makes them a run and shoot hybrid. Its a run and Shoot league Matt, and we're just living in it. Hahahahahahahaha!!!</P>


</P>


If you do want to make an actual case, please cite examples of what specifically the Giants do that other teams don't, that are characteristics of the Run and Shoot. I will be interested in reviewing those examples when I get back.</P>


Oh....I loved the Travis Beckhum reference. He's a huge part of our offense. Hahahahaha!!!</P>


Stay beautifully misguided. I wouldn't have it any other way.</P>

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 02:20 PM
<h3><span id="Key_concepts" class="mw-headline">Key concepts</span></h3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</p>
<ul>
Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).[/list]



</p>


---</p>



</p>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</p>


</p>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</p>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</p>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</p>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</p>So just because Gilbride/TC plugged in a tightend its not a run and shot anymore? Can you at least admit that certain aspects of the scheme have been incorporated into our current scheme?

byron
01-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Today's football is the evolution of all that's come to pass...imho... there is no reason not to believe that the giants, play some sort ofhybrid run and shoot that involvesTE's....While I don't really care one way or the other I don't find it tofar fetched, given our OC's history with it.....there has to be some residue I would think...Dare I say onlyGilbride knows for sure;) butwhat a novel idea tothrow to the open wr.....</P>


how many more days!?!?</P>

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Well everybody, Morehead is leaving for St. Croix early tomorrow morning. I'll be back late Saturday night in time to mentally prepare for the game.</p>


Matt.....Keep thinking that since the Giants use motion in their offense, it makes them a run and shoot hybrid. Its a run and Shoot league Matt, and we're just living in it. Hahahahahahahaha!!!</p>


</p>


<u>If you do want to make an actual case, please cite examples of what specifically the Giants do that other teams don't</u>, that are characteristics of the Run and Shoot. I will be interested in reviewing those examples when I get back.</p>


Oh....I loved the Travis Beckhum reference. He's a huge part of our offense. Hahahahaha!!!</p>


Stay beautifully misguided. I wouldn't have it any other way.</p>Other teams use the wr route packages that started with the run and shoot
beckum might not be a huge part of our offense but ballard has been very solid when healthy. And isnt that going against your own point?

dezzzR
01-27-2012, 02:31 PM
Today's football is the evolution of all that's come to pass...imho... there is no reason not to believe that the giants, play some sort ofhybrid run and shoot that involvesTE's....While I don't really care one way or the other I don't find it tofar fetched, given our OC's history with it.....there has to be some residue I would think...Dare I say onlyGilbride knows for sure;) butwhat a novel idea tothrow to the open wr.....</p>


how many more days!?!?</p>Exactly, Gilbrides ran it for a long time, obviously his style is going to evolve.

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 02:35 PM
butwhat a novel idea tothrow to the open wr.....</P>


</P>


AHAHAHAHA....i read this and laughed for like a good 30 seconds lol</P>

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 02:38 PM
On Reddit today, someone posted this picture and said:
"Just got my tickets for my seats at the Super Bowl!! I'm SO AMPED!!!
http://i.imgur.com/HTTPA.jpg</P>


lol</P>

bigblue4417
01-27-2012, 02:44 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)

Eli is about to rewrite this one...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WCYBAXR8L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 02:47 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)
That actually sounds really cool. I watch the games as they are and try to gauge play off of the ball, but its tougher to do live rather than on the replay


it really is nearly impossible. I can't wait to read this. I hear so much good **** about it

i'll let u know how it turns out

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 02:50 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)
</p>


hmm...interesting. I accuse myself of it all the time. it's why im never able to gauge the performance of our o-line, or our LBs....
Im intrigued.</p>

yea its hard not to do. You usually need to catch a game twice. Once to naturally watch it and then 2nd time to break it down, imo

JPizzack
01-27-2012, 02:52 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)

Eli is about to rewrite this one...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WCYBAXR8L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
</P>


lol.."click to look inside"....and when you do it's like page after page of Eli Manning photos. haha</P>

bigblue4417
01-27-2012, 02:52 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.

You are not supposed to admit that.

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 02:53 PM
<h3><span id="Key_concepts" class="mw-headline">Key concepts</span></h3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</p>
<ul>
Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).[/list]



</p>


---</p>



</p>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</p>


</p>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</p>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</p>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</p>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</p>

exactly why i would call it a hybrid Run and shoot.

cuz we've incorporated the TE into the offense. Now back then, the TEs weren't ilke this. Today's "RECEIVING TIGHT ENDS" would of definitly been classified as UPBACKS that would of absolutely fit into the traditional run and shoot. I would be amazed if u'd disagree with that

And while everybody DOES run option routes, nobody bases their whole passing game on it like we do - which is basically the biggest part of the run and shoot that carried over. And don't worry i'm waiting for a response to completely end your argument

lttaylor56
01-27-2012, 02:54 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense

sorry but this basically describes our personnell

4 wide receivers is a misconception. Your forgetting that slotbacks were a big part of the offense... which Travin Beckum defines by the way<U> (and u guys know I hate him). </U>

If your suggesting that Mouse Davis AND Kevin Gilbride ran their run and shoot the same exact way.* Tim Hasselback has said on NFL Live before that he was with Gilbride and he helped create the philosophies of the offense and that their passing game is completely based out of the run and shoot
a misguided hate.


a truthful hate...

thanks for the tix ;)
</P>


Did you tell Dezz what we were talking about at the GB game?!
"I wonder if Dezz actually bought these tickets after losing the bet....what section did he say he sat in again!? WHO GIVES UP GREEN BAY TICKETS?!?!?!" lol</P>lol, ha. One day we will all go to a game together.

Is there really A JEDI religion? Is that the same as star wars? At church the woman dress like leah and the dudes like Luke?

My favorite star wars character

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/medium_custom_1294431108156_x93140826580756948.jpg

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 02:55 PM
<H3><SPAN id=Key_concepts class=mw-headline>Key concepts</SPAN></H3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</P>
<UL>
<LI>Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
<LI>If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
<LI>Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).</LI>[/list]



</P>


---</P>



</P>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</P>


</P>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</P>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</P>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</P>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</P>


So just because Gilbride/TC plugged in a tightend its not a run and shot anymore? Can you at least admit that certain aspects of the scheme have been incorporated into our current scheme?


</P>


Huh?</P>


This little list above. (use motion, audible out of a play when after reading defenses and (this I love) Throw to open receivers) describes what every offense in football does.</P>


Are there aspects of every offense ever used in every current offense? Of course. But Matt's original point way back when was that Eli had a lot of picks because the Giants us a version of the Run and Shoot. This was the genesis of the argument. The Run and Shoot was a short lived, discredited offense that got QB's killed in the late 80's and especially the 90's. It doesn't work.</P>


So Matts argument is specious because for him to be right, only the Giants have to use principles that caused Eli to throw a lot of picks. So why did he throw only 10 in 2008? Why has he only thrown 1 in the past 5 games? Why did he throw only 1 in the 2007 playoffs?</P>


Because he's playing better. Because he's better in the pocket. because he's making better decisions. Its not hard. Its only complicated to Matt.</P>


So the point that 25 int's was due to the 'Run and Shoot" aspects of the offense is silly.</P>


</P>


</P>


The run and shoot has 11 players. Wow....so do the Giants. (and every other team)</P>


The run and shoot uses WR's. Another coincidence..so do the Giants. (and every other team)</P>


The run and shoot uses motion.....Holy cow another similarity to the Giants. (and other team)</P>


</P>


The run and shoot does not use TE's....oops!.</P>


The run and shoot has no FB......oops!</P>


The run and shoot floods the zone with WR's....oops!</P>


The run and shoot uses primarily a three step drop....oops!</P>


</P>


Now please people.....<FONT size=5>I'm going on vacation!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Well everybody, Morehead is leaving for St. Croix early tomorrow morning. I'll be back late Saturday night in time to mentally prepare for the game.</p>


Matt.....Keep thinking that since the Giants use motion in their offense, it makes them a run and shoot hybrid. Its a run and Shoot league Matt, and we're just living in it. Hahahahahahahaha!!!</p>


</p>


If you do want to make an actual case, please cite examples of what specifically the Giants do that other teams don't, that are characteristics of the Run and Shoot. I will be interested in reviewing those examples when I get back.</p>


Oh....I loved the Travis Beckhum reference. He's a huge part of our offense. Hahahahaha!!!</p>


Stay beautifully misguided. I wouldn't have it any other way.</p>

by the time you get back i'll have a response from somebody that ABSOLUTELY TRUMPS what Roman Oben told you

lttaylor56
01-27-2012, 02:57 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)

Eli is about to rewrite this one...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WCYBAXR8L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
</P>


lol.."click to look inside"....and when you do it's like page after page of Eli Manning photos. haha</P>I watched the Nov 6 game again last night that we played Pat's. This is not going to be a cake walk at the SB. Both teams made mistakes in that game. If we continue like we have been,,,,,,I have to think we have the advantage.

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 02:59 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)

Eli is about to rewrite this one...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WCYBAXR8L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
</P>


lol.."click to look inside"....and when you do it's like page after page of Eli Manning photos. haha</P>


I watched the Nov 6 game again last night that we played Pat's. This is not going to be a cake walk at the SB. Both teams made mistakes in that game. If we continue like we have been,,,,,,I have to think we have the advantage.</P>


38-27 Giants. (and I'm giving the Pats a TD in garbage time)</P>


Giants get big lead in first half.</P>


A couple nervous moments in the 2nd half.</P>


But a decisive win.</P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:03 PM
Today's football is the evolution of all that's come to pass...imho... there is no reason not to believe that the giants, play some sort ofhybrid run and shoot that involvesTE's....While I don't really care one way or the other I don't find it tofar fetched, given our OC's history with it.....there has to be some residue I would think...Dare I say onlyGilbride knows for sure;) butwhat a novel idea tothrow to the open wr.....</p>


how many more days!?!?</p>

exactly

infact the biggest knock of why the typical run and shoot was considered dead was because there was no protection for the QB because they didn't use a TE/FB.

But they didnt' always run 4 wide with WRs, they soemtimes did it with 2 WRs and 2 UPBACKS. Upbacks are basically what the TE position has turned into today with all of these guys that aren't great blockers but too big to play WR and can catch.

We also don't fully committ to that offense, we can line up and play smashmouth

or at least we use to be able to. But you'll even notice we are throwing alot on 3rd and shorts instead of lining up and palying smash mouth

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:05 PM
<H3><SPAN id=Key_concepts class=mw-headline>Key concepts</SPAN></H3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</P>
<UL>
<LI>Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
<LI>If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
<LI>Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).</LI>[/list]



</P>


---</P>



</P>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</P>


</P>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</P>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</P>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</P>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</P>




exactly why i would call it a hybrid Run and shoot.

cuz we've incorporated the TE into the offense. Now back then, the TEs weren't ilke this. Today's "RECEIVING TIGHT ENDS" would of definitly been classified as UPBACKS that would of absolutely fit into the traditional run and shoot. I would be amazed if u'd disagree with that

And while everybody DOES run option routes, nobody bases their whole passing game on it like we do - which is basically the biggest part of the run and shoot that carried over. And don't worry i'm waiting for a response to completely end your argument
</P>


Option routes came as an answer to the complexities of defenses in recent years. They are absolutely necessary for a passing game to work. </P>


You have no idea how wide open and fast paced the run and shoot was. Watch some of these college teams use it with their huge O line splits. Or watch film of Jeff George or warren Moon run it. This system does NOT translate well to the NFL anymore at all.</P>


It has no resemblance to what the Giants do. (Oh I forgot..they do use 11 players just like the R &amp; S, I forgot)</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:06 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.

You are not supposed to admit that.


whats a better trade for DHow???

Amare &amp; Chandler

or

Bynum and Gasol

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:06 PM
Today's football is the evolution of all that's come to pass...imho... there is no reason not to believe that the giants, play some sort ofhybrid run and shoot that involvesTE's....While I don't really care one way or the other I don't find it tofar fetched, given our OC's history with it.....there has to be some residue I would think...Dare I say onlyGilbride knows for sure;) butwhat a novel idea tothrow to the open wr.....</P>


how many more days!?!?</P>




exactly

infact the biggest knock of why the typical run and shoot was considered dead was because there was no protection for the QB because they didn't use a TE/FB.

But they didnt' always run 4 wide with WRs, they soemtimes did it with 2 WRs and 2 UPBACKS. Upbacks are basically what the TE position has turned into today with all of these guys that aren't great blockers but too big to play WR and can catch.

We also don't fully committ to that offense, we can line up and play smashmouth

or at least we use to be able to. But you'll even notice we are throwing alot on 3rd and shorts instead of lining up and palying smash mouth
</P>


Go ahead and quote Wikipedia. You need to see the offense work to see how antiquated it is.</P>


And wee throw on third and short because our O line is lousy at run blocking. C'mon Matt.</P>


We throw on third and short because we're a run and shoot hybrid? Your better than that.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:07 PM
<h3><span id="Key_concepts" class="mw-headline">Key concepts</span></h3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</p>
<ul>
Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).[/list]



</p>


---</p>



</p>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</p>


</p>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</p>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</p>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</p>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</p>


So just because Gilbride/TC plugged in a tightend its not a run and shot anymore? Can you at least admit that certain aspects of the scheme have been incorporated into our current scheme?


</p>


Huh?</p>


This little list above. (use motion, audible out of a play when after reading defenses and (this I love) Throw to open receivers) describes what every offense in football does.</p>


Are there aspects of every offense ever used in every current offense? Of course. But Matt's original point way back when was that Eli had a lot of picks because the Giants us a version of the Run and Shoot. This was the genesis of the argument. The Run and Shoot was a short lived, discredited offense that got QB's killed in the late 80's and especially the 90's. It doesn't work.</p>


So Matts argument is specious because for him to be right, only the Giants have to use principles that caused Eli to throw a lot of picks. So why did he throw only 10 in 2008? Why has he only thrown 1 in the past 5 games? Why did he throw only 1 in the 2007 playoffs?</p>


Because he's playing better. Because he's better in the pocket. because he's making better decisions. Its not hard. Its only complicated to Matt.</p>


So the point that 25 int's was due to the 'Run and Shoot" aspects of the offense is silly.</p>


</p>


</p>


The run and shoot has 11 players. Wow....so do the Giants. (and every other team)</p>


The run and shoot uses WR's. Another coincidence..so do the Giants. (and every other team)</p>


The run and shoot uses motion.....Holy cow another similarity to the Giants. (and other team)</p>


</p>


The run and shoot does not use TE's....oops!.</p>


The run and shoot has no FB......oops!</p>


The run and shoot floods the zone with WR's....oops!</p>


The run and shoot uses primarily a three step drop....oops!</p>


</p>


Now please people.....<font size="5">I'm going on vacation!!!</font></p>


</p>


</p>

no but they use upbacks, could u give me the definition of what an upback was in the early 90s and then maybe name a player who would fit that mold back then

lttaylor56
01-27-2012, 03:11 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)

Eli is about to rewrite this one...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WCYBAXR8L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
</P>


lol.."click to look inside"....and when you do it's like page after page of Eli Manning photos. haha</P>


I watched the Nov 6 game again last night that we played Pat's. This is not going to be a cake walk at the SB. Both teams made mistakes in that game. If we continue like we have been,,,,,,I have to think we have the advantage.</P>


38-27 Giants. (and I'm giving the Pats a TD in garbage time)</P>


Giants get big lead in first half.</P>


A couple nervous moments in the 2nd half.</P>


But a decisive win.</P>


*</P>I'll go with you on the positive side, I want to convincingly beat this Pat's team. I'm not going to say any of the negative thoughts that pushed themselves into my mind. Rolle said he's not talking about losing a sb and I'm not bringing us down.

Have a great vacation.

Where are you going?

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:11 PM
<H3><SPAN id=Key_concepts class=mw-headline>Key concepts</SPAN></H3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</P>
<UL>
<LI>Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
<LI>If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
<LI>Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).</LI>[/list]



</P>


---</P>



</P>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</P>


</P>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</P>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</P>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</P>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</P>


So just because Gilbride/TC plugged in a tightend its not a run and shot anymore? Can you at least admit that certain aspects of the scheme have been incorporated into our current scheme?


</P>


Huh?</P>


This little list above. (use motion, audible out of a play when after reading defenses and (this I love) Throw to open receivers) describes what every offense in football does.</P>


Are there aspects of every offense ever used in every current offense? Of course. But Matt's original point way back when was that Eli had a lot of picks because the Giants us a version of the Run and Shoot. This was the genesis of the argument. The Run and Shoot was a short lived, discredited offense that got QB's killed in the late 80's and especially the 90's. It doesn't work.</P>


So Matts argument is specious because for him to be right, only the Giants have to use principles that caused Eli to throw a lot of picks. So why did he throw only 10 in 2008? Why has he only thrown 1 in the past 5 games? Why did he throw only 1 in the 2007 playoffs?</P>


Because he's playing better. Because he's better in the pocket. because he's making better decisions. Its not hard. Its only complicated to Matt.</P>


So the point that 25 int's was due to the 'Run and Shoot" aspects of the offense is silly.</P>


</P>


</P>


The run and shoot has 11 players. Wow....so do the Giants. (and every other team)</P>


The run and shoot uses WR's. Another coincidence..so do the Giants. (and every other team)</P>


The run and shoot uses motion.....Holy cow another similarity to the Giants. (and other team)</P>


</P>


The run and shoot does not use TE's....oops!.</P>


The run and shoot has no FB......oops!</P>


The run and shoot floods the zone with WR's....oops!</P>


The run and shoot uses primarily a three step drop....oops!</P>


</P>


Now please people.....<FONT size=5>I'm going on vacation!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


</P>




no but they use upbacks, could u give me the definition of what an upback was in the early 90s and then maybe name a player who would fit that mold back then

I read the same Wiki article and I have no idea what they're talking about.</P>


Lorenzo White and Barry Sanders didn't have any "upbacks".</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:13 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600786170

just ordered it. can't wait for it to come

everybody that has read it said its a ****in awesome read.

(i suggest pappy reads it as well)

Eli is about to rewrite this one...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WCYBAXR8L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
</P>


lol.."click to look inside"....and when you do it's like page after page of Eli Manning photos. haha</P>


I watched the Nov 6 game again last night that we played Pat's. This is not going to be a cake walk at the SB. Both teams made mistakes in that game. If we continue like we have been,,,,,,I have to think we have the advantage.</P>


38-27 Giants. (and I'm giving the Pats a TD in garbage time)</P>


Giants get big lead in first half.</P>


A couple nervous moments in the 2nd half.</P>


But a decisive win.</P>


</P>


I'll go with you on the positive side, I want to convincingly beat this Pat's team. I'm not going to say any of the negative thoughts that pushed themselves into my mind. Rolle said he's not talking about losing a sb and I'm not bringing us down. Have a great vacation. Where are you going?</P>


St. Croix.</P>


I've been working out like a fiend the last month or so. The old bod is coming back. By April I'll be back to the "addonis" Morehead once again.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:14 PM
<h3><span id="Key_concepts" class="mw-headline">Key concepts</span></h3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</p>
<ul>
Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).[/list]



</p>


---</p>



</p>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</p>


</p>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</p>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</p>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</p>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</p>




exactly why i would call it a hybrid Run and shoot.

cuz we've incorporated the TE into the offense. Now back then, the TEs weren't ilke this. Today's "RECEIVING TIGHT ENDS" would of definitly been classified as UPBACKS that would of absolutely fit into the traditional run and shoot. I would be amazed if u'd disagree with that

And while everybody DOES run option routes, nobody bases their whole passing game on it like we do - which is basically the biggest part of the run and shoot that carried over. And don't worry i'm waiting for a response to completely end your argument
</p>


Option routes came as an answer to the complexities of defenses in recent years. They are absolutely necessary for a passing game to work. </p>


You have no idea how wide open and fast paced the run and shoot was. Watch some of these college teams use it with their huge O line splits. Or watch film of Jeff George or warren Moon run it. This system does NOT translate well to the NFL anymore at all.</p>


It has no resemblance to what the Giants do. (Oh I forgot..they do use 11 players just like the R &amp; S, I forgot)</p>

Option routes was a concept originated from the run and shoot style (like the article says). Please name me another team that relies on it to the degree that we do. ITS OUR WHOLE PASSING OFFENSE

I said its a hybrid run and shoot. Which means we took alot of concepts from it and applied it to our offense, which is true...

still waiting to hear your upbacks response and I was making this argument WAYYY before I went to wiki. Where else would u like me to quote things from the run and shoot?

Your pretty much denying all facts involved just because it doesn't agree with you.

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:20 PM
Today's football is the evolution of all that's come to pass...imho... there is no reason not to believe that the giants, play some sort ofhybrid run and shoot that involvesTE's....While I don't really care one way or the other I don't find it tofar fetched, given our OC's history with it.....there has to be some residue I would think...Dare I say onlyGilbride knows for sure;) butwhat a novel idea tothrow to the open wr.....</p>


how many more days!?!?</p>




exactly

infact the biggest knock of why the typical run and shoot was considered dead was because there was no protection for the QB because they didn't use a TE/FB.

But they didnt' always run 4 wide with WRs, they soemtimes did it with 2 WRs and 2 UPBACKS. Upbacks are basically what the TE position has turned into today with all of these guys that aren't great blockers but too big to play WR and can catch.

We also don't fully committ to that offense, we can line up and play smashmouth

or at least we use to be able to. But you'll even notice we are throwing alot on 3rd and shorts instead of lining up and palying smash mouth
</p>


Go ahead and quote Wikipedia. You need to see the offense work to see how antiquated it is.</p>


And wee throw on third and short because our O line is lousy at run blocking. C'mon Matt.</p>


We throw on third and short because we're a run and shoot hybrid? Your better than that.</p>

we've been averaging 4.2 a carry the past 5 games. We have been running the ball VERY successfully. And we should be able to line up and get first down on 3rd and 1. But we don't use bradshaw and we try to run off tackle

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:26 PM
<H3><SPAN id=Key_concepts class=mw-headline>Key concepts</SPAN></H3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</P>
<UL>
<LI>Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
<LI>If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
<LI>Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).</LI>[/list]



</P>


---</P>



</P>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</P>


</P>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</P>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</P>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</P>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</P>




exactly why i would call it a hybrid Run and shoot.

cuz we've incorporated the TE into the offense. Now back then, the TEs weren't ilke this. Today's "RECEIVING TIGHT ENDS" would of definitly been classified as UPBACKS that would of absolutely fit into the traditional run and shoot. I would be amazed if u'd disagree with that

And while everybody DOES run option routes, nobody bases their whole passing game on it like we do - which is basically the biggest part of the run and shoot that carried over. And don't worry i'm waiting for a response to completely end your argument
</P>


Option routes came as an answer to the complexities of defenses in recent years. They are absolutely necessary for a passing game to work. </P>


You have no idea how wide open and fast paced the run and shoot was. Watch some of these college teams use it with their huge O line splits. Or watch film of Jeff George or warren Moon run it. This system does NOT translate well to the NFL anymore at all.</P>


It has no resemblance to what the Giants do. (Oh I forgot..they do use 11 players just like the R &amp; S, I forgot)</P>




Option routes was a concept originated from the run and shoot style (like the article says). Please name me another team that relies on it to the degree that we do. ITS OUR WHOLE PASSING OFFENSE

I said its a hybrid run and shoot. Which means we took alot of concepts from it and applied it to our offense, which is true...

still waiting to hear your upbacks response and I was making this argument WAYYY before I went to wiki. Where else would u like me to quote things from the run and shoot?

Your pretty much denying all facts involved just because it doesn't agree with you.
</P>


I have no idea what they are referring to as an "upback". It appears neither do you.</P>


And to say it our "whole offense" is silly. We make sight adjustments to enhance our offense, not to throw more picks.</P>


Are there sight adjustments? Yes. Just like every other team. It didn't make Eli throw 25 picks last year as you claimed.</P>

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:29 PM
And I don't expect you to quote any source. I expect that since you have such a strong view, you should have seen it in use extensively, understand what you have seen, and then apply it to the Giants offense. I'm getting none of that. I'm getting wiki references. That great source of NFL knowledge.</P>


The fact that you are reading about it demonstrates that you don't have any idea how it works.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:33 PM
<h3><span id="Key_concepts" class="mw-headline">Key concepts</span></h3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</p>
<ul>
Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).[/list]



</p>


---</p>



</p>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</p>


</p>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</p>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</p>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</p>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</p>




exactly why i would call it a hybrid Run and shoot.

cuz we've incorporated the TE into the offense. Now back then, the TEs weren't ilke this. Today's "RECEIVING TIGHT ENDS" would of definitly been classified as UPBACKS that would of absolutely fit into the traditional run and shoot. I would be amazed if u'd disagree with that

And while everybody DOES run option routes, nobody bases their whole passing game on it like we do - which is basically the biggest part of the run and shoot that carried over. And don't worry i'm waiting for a response to completely end your argument
</p>


Option routes came as an answer to the complexities of defenses in recent years. They are absolutely necessary for a passing game to work. </p>


You have no idea how wide open and fast paced the run and shoot was. Watch some of these college teams use it with their huge O line splits. Or watch film of Jeff George or warren Moon run it. This system does NOT translate well to the NFL anymore at all.</p>


It has no resemblance to what the Giants do. (Oh I forgot..they do use 11 players just like the R &amp; S, I forgot)</p>




Option routes was a concept originated from the run and shoot style (like the article says). Please name me another team that relies on it to the degree that we do. ITS OUR WHOLE PASSING OFFENSE

I said its a hybrid run and shoot. Which means we took alot of concepts from it and applied it to our offense, which is true...

still waiting to hear your upbacks response and I was making this argument WAYYY before I went to wiki. Where else would u like me to quote things from the run and shoot?

Your pretty much denying all facts involved just because it doesn't agree with you.
</p>


I have no idea what they are referring to as an "upback". It appears neither do you.</p>


And to say it our "whole offense" is silly. We make sight adjustments to enhance our offense, not to throw more picks.</p>


Are there sight adjustments? Yes. Just like every other team. It didn't make Eli throw 25 picks last year as you claimed.</p>

actually, i do...

if u watched the past few weeks with the Pats, they way they've used Keith Hernandez

The position that Cooley has been known to play...

i guess its just ironic that we base our whole pasisng offense on sight adjustment and that everytime Gilbride has run has had a high interception rate...

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:34 PM
This threadalways struggleswithout you and I.

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:36 PM
<H3><SPAN id=Key_concepts class=mw-headline>Key concepts</SPAN></H3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</P>
<UL>
<LI>Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
<LI>If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
<LI>Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).</LI>[/list]



</P>


---</P>



</P>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</P>


</P>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</P>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</P>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</P>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</P>




exactly why i would call it a hybrid Run and shoot.

cuz we've incorporated the TE into the offense. Now back then, the TEs weren't ilke this. Today's "RECEIVING TIGHT ENDS" would of definitly been classified as UPBACKS that would of absolutely fit into the traditional run and shoot. I would be amazed if u'd disagree with that

And while everybody DOES run option routes, nobody bases their whole passing game on it like we do - which is basically the biggest part of the run and shoot that carried over. And don't worry i'm waiting for a response to completely end your argument
</P>


Option routes came as an answer to the complexities of defenses in recent years. They are absolutely necessary for a passing game to work. </P>


You have no idea how wide open and fast paced the run and shoot was. Watch some of these college teams use it with their huge O line splits. Or watch film of Jeff George or warren Moon run it. This system does NOT translate well to the NFL anymore at all.</P>


It has no resemblance to what the Giants do. (Oh I forgot..they do use 11 players just like the R &amp; S, I forgot)</P>




Option routes was a concept originated from the run and shoot style (like the article says). Please name me another team that relies on it to the degree that we do. ITS OUR WHOLE PASSING OFFENSE

I said its a hybrid run and shoot. Which means we took alot of concepts from it and applied it to our offense, which is true...

still waiting to hear your upbacks response and I was making this argument WAYYY before I went to wiki. Where else would u like me to quote things from the run and shoot?

Your pretty much denying all facts involved just because it doesn't agree with you.
</P>


I have no idea what they are referring to as an "upback". It appears neither do you.</P>


And to say it our "whole offense" is silly. We make sight adjustments to enhance our offense, not to throw more picks.</P>


Are there sight adjustments? Yes. Just like every other team. It didn't make Eli throw 25 picks last year as you claimed.</P>




actually, i do...

if u watched the past few weeks with the Pats, they way they've used Keith Hernandez

The position that Cooley has been known to play...

i guess its just ironic that we base our whole pasisng offense on sight adjustment and that everytime Gilbride has run has had a high interception rate...


</P>


And how many picks does Tom Brady throw in that system?</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:41 PM
And I don't expect you to quote any source. I expect that since you have such a strong view, you should have seen it in use extensively, understand what you have seen, and then apply it to the Giants offense. I'm getting none of that. I'm getting wiki references. That great source of NFL knowledge.</p>


The fact that you are reading about it demonstrates that you don't have any idea how it works.</p>

well once common sense wouldn't get through to you, i had to pull references

my point has been made and its right

yours, as usual, is offbase

enjoy vacation ;)

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:42 PM
This threadalways struggleswithout you and I.

lol u did get me going today, i'll admit it

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:46 PM
<h3><span id="Key_concepts" class="mw-headline">Key concepts</span></h3>


The following concepts are key to understanding the Run &amp; Shoot:
</p>
<ul>
Throw to the open receiver. This is fairly obvious but if the receiver is open, the quarterback must recognize the coverage and find him in time to get him the ball.
If the QB reads 5 or less in the box, run the football. This means that traditional defensive formations using a 3-4 or 4-3 front will have moved 2 defenders outside of the "box" for coverage help. The "box" is the area about a yard outside of the tight end or offensive tackle on one side of the line to the other offensive tackle/tight end on the other side of the line and about 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.
Use motion and formations to spread the defense out and anticipate what the defense is going to do. If one uses motion and the defensive back follows the motioning receiver, they are probably playing man coverage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-to-man_defense) or blitzing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_%28American_football%29). If no defensive back follows the motion receiver, then they are probably playing zone defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_defense).[/list]



</p>


---</p>



</p>


i'll own u on this all day ol man
</p>


</p>


You just described every offense in the NFL.</p>


The Giants try to throw to the open receiver, they use motion to read zone or man to man and if the defense moves out of the box they will audible to a running play. This is offense 101.</p>


You are absolutely nuts. You have no idea what the Run and Shoot is!!!</p>


There are no TE's so as to flood the zone with WR's. I repeat, there are NO TE's. Lomas said when they got rid of the R &amp; S the first thing they had to do was draft or sign TE's because there were none on the roster.</p>




exactly why i would call it a hybrid Run and shoot.

cuz we've incorporated the TE into the offense. Now back then, the TEs weren't ilke this. Today's "RECEIVING TIGHT ENDS" would of definitly been classified as UPBACKS that would of absolutely fit into the traditional run and shoot. I would be amazed if u'd disagree with that

And while everybody DOES run option routes, nobody bases their whole passing game on it like we do - which is basically the biggest part of the run and shoot that carried over. And don't worry i'm waiting for a response to completely end your argument
</p>


Option routes came as an answer to the complexities of defenses in recent years. They are absolutely necessary for a passing game to work. </p>


You have no idea how wide open and fast paced the run and shoot was. Watch some of these college teams use it with their huge O line splits. Or watch film of Jeff George or warren Moon run it. This system does NOT translate well to the NFL anymore at all.</p>


It has no resemblance to what the Giants do. (Oh I forgot..they do use 11 players just like the R &amp; S, I forgot)</p>




Option routes was a concept originated from the run and shoot style (like the article says). Please name me another team that relies on it to the degree that we do. ITS OUR WHOLE PASSING OFFENSE

I said its a hybrid run and shoot. Which means we took alot of concepts from it and applied it to our offense, which is true...

still waiting to hear your upbacks response and I was making this argument WAYYY before I went to wiki. Where else would u like me to quote things from the run and shoot?

Your pretty much denying all facts involved just because it doesn't agree with you.
</p>


I have no idea what they are referring to as an "upback". It appears neither do you.</p>


And to say it our "whole offense" is silly. We make sight adjustments to enhance our offense, not to throw more picks.</p>


Are there sight adjustments? Yes. Just like every other team. It didn't make Eli throw 25 picks last year as you claimed.</p>




actually, i do...

if u watched the past few weeks with the Pats, they way they've used Keith Hernandez

The position that Cooley has been known to play...

i guess its just ironic that we base our whole pasisng offense on sight adjustment and that everytime Gilbride has run has had a high interception rate...


</p>


And how many picks does Tom Brady throw in that system?</p>

i would say the closest thing that the pats run is the west coast with the dink and dunks

Morehead State
01-27-2012, 03:48 PM
And I don't expect you to quote any source. I expect that since you have such a strong view, you should have seen it in use extensively, understand what you have seen, and then apply it to the Giants offense. I'm getting none of that. I'm getting wiki references. That great source of NFL knowledge.</P>


The fact that you are reading about it demonstrates that you don't have any idea how it works.</P>




well once common sense wouldn't get through to you, i had to pull references

my point has been made and its right

yours, as usual, is offbase

enjoy vacation ;)
</P>


You've ruined it. *******!</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 03:51 PM
And I don't expect you to quote any source. I expect that since you have such a strong view, you should have seen it in use extensively, understand what you have seen, and then apply it to the Giants offense. I'm getting none of that. I'm getting wiki references. That great source of NFL knowledge.</p>


The fact that you are reading about it demonstrates that you don't have any idea how it works.</p>




well once common sense wouldn't get through to you, i had to pull references

my point has been made and its right

yours, as usual, is offbase

enjoy vacation ;)
</p>


You've ruined it. *******!</p>

lol

bigblue4417
01-27-2012, 04:37 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.

You are not supposed to admit that.


whats a better trade for DHow???

Amare &amp; Chandler

or

Bynum and Gasol

Is this a serious question? lol

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 04:40 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.

You are not supposed to admit that.


whats a better trade for DHow???

Amare &amp; Chandler

or

Bynum and Gasol

Is this a serious question? lol


say Gasol n Bynum so i can lolz

bigblue4417
01-27-2012, 04:51 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.

You are not supposed to admit that.


whats a better trade for DHow???

Amare &amp; Chandler

or

Bynum and Gasol

Is this a serious question? lol


say Gasol n Bynum so i can lolz

Gasol&gt;Amare

Bynum&gt;Chandler by a loooong shot

but continue....

MattMeyerBud
01-27-2012, 05:39 PM
I saw Warhorse last night. Great movie. I must of cried like 5-6 times though. lol.

You are not supposed to admit that.


whats a better trade for DHow???

Amare &amp; Chandler

or

Bynum and Gasol

Is this a serious question? lol



say Gasol n Bynum so i can lolz

Gasol&gt;Amare

Bynum&gt;Chandler by a loooong shot

but continue....



gasol is not better than Stoudemire and a big of draw on the business side either


Bynum
is over rated as you know, but either way he doesn't provide what
Chandler provides defensively which is exactly what the magic would want
in losing howard


not only that they are hooked long term and wont' have to worry about resigning Bynum

plus Stoudemire is 2 years younger than gasol which is huge when taking into account the biggest player u'd be getting back. And Tyson is still 29. Obviously its not 24, but its absolutely no old

JPizzack
01-28-2012, 12:05 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</P>

bigblue4417
01-29-2012, 11:25 AM
“Eli, without question, will go down as the best quarterback in Giants
history,” Simms said. “And that’s great. I’m not worried about my status
or where I stand. It’s a different time and era.”

lawl
01-29-2012, 01:22 PM
Amare's knee is shot. Always in pain always has to ice them down.

Morehead State
01-30-2012, 08:08 AM
“Eli, without question, will go down as the best quarterback in Giants history,” Simms said. “And that’s great. I’m not worried about my status or where I stand. It’s a different time and era.”</P>


Don't be trying to poke me with a stick on my vacation.</P>


As Phil said......different time and era.</P>


Now leave me alone people!!</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 08:44 AM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>

Stoudemire can't play with another big man and no point guard

im not a fan of D'Antoni anymore either BUT it has nothing to do with Dantoni

if u get howard, you are getting DWill

having DWill &amp; Howard would compliment Melo the best. Chandler doesn't have enough of an offensive game

lawl
01-30-2012, 08:44 AM
First day at the new job.

Anyone watch the pro bowl?

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 08:48 AM
Amare's knee is shot. Always in pain always has to ice them down.

its over hyped, he still plays and produces..

besides 08-09 where he actually was hurt he missed 6 games in the past 4 out of 5 years.

Either way, if they lost howard and Stoudemire was a FA they would hop on it next year.

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 08:49 AM
First day at the new job.

Anyone watch the pro bowl?

congrats, what are u doing now?

i tried to... brutal

i turned it off once i saw both lines patty cake like a whistle was blown and it wasn't and then the crowd started booing

they need to cancel it or do a 7 on 7 tournament or something. Do a skills thing like NBA does

something, anything but what they are doing

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 09:10 AM
OLD SCHOOL PICS COMING:

going through my old photobucket lol

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/davenbaby.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/hogtie_edited.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/PigArt.jpg

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 09:24 AM
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http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/shaq.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/toilet.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/mmb.gif

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 09:36 AM
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MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 09:38 AM
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http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/romowrestling.png

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MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 09:41 AM
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http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/homeyto.png


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/DivisionalSundayNY.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/DivisionalSunday.jpg

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 09:44 AM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/lasthorsecollar.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/l_8fe90281bc91b7c8fda3a59849c9664c.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/joehomo.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/jess.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/daldown.jpg


thats all i got... mostly cowboy ones but I had to include them

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 11:03 AM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 11:23 AM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</P>



Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.
</P>


Well......DUH! I mean....Steve Nash IS the greatest PG of all time...so.... ;)</P>

lttaylor56
01-30-2012, 11:37 AM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/villageidiots_edited-1.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/romowrestling.png

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/osi.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa120/meyerbud/l_cbf137878b8534475186e0275b70ea19.jpg
lol

lttaylor56
01-30-2012, 11:39 AM
I got a bunch of gifs from sb 42, I have them at home on computer. My favorite is probably...18-1 Brady , you're done son!

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 12:13 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 12:14 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.

and Amare wanted out... he didn't want to be with the Suns. All they had was an aging Nash and identity crisis...

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 12:52 PM
OK guys, im having difficulty making a decision about the Superbowl...

Every year, my parents do a superbowl party at our place, and we invite anyone we want.
In recent years it hasnt been a big deal, i didnt care about the game anyway lol

for SB42, i left my house before the game cuz we all went to our bar instead. And it was one of the best days of my life.
I'm extremely superstitious about football, even though im not superstitious about anything else in life lol.
So since week 16, I've been at the bar EVERY game, and obviously we won all those games.
So my conundrum is, do I have everyone to my house for the game, or do I tell them all to go to the bar because it's worked out well for us thus far!?

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 01:07 PM
OK guys, im having difficulty making a decision about the Superbowl...

Every year, my parents do a superbowl party at our place, and we invite anyone we want.
In recent years it hasnt been a big deal, i didnt care about the game anyway lol

for SB42, i left my house before the game cuz we all went to our bar instead. And it was one of the best days of my life.
I'm extremely superstitious about football, even though im not superstitious about anything else in life lol.
So since week 16, I've been at the bar EVERY game, and obviously we won all those games.
So my conundrum is, do I have everyone to my house for the game, or do I tell them all to go to the bar because it's worked out well for us thus far!?

You <font size="5">HAVE</font> to go to the bar

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 01:11 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



But only because you say so

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 01:18 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



But only because you say so


Gasol is a superstar?

whatever helps ur purple and gold head sleep at night

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 01:42 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</P>



Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



But only because you say so


Gasol is a superstar?

whatever helps ur purple and gold head sleep at night
</P>


btw, im not really a knicks fan....so the homer shades comment doesnt really apply to me. lol

I just think Amare is as studly as you can ask for at his position really. But, he's a product of a good offense. He's not a solo guy really.
Whereas I just view Pau as a whiney little ***** who happens to be a good basketball player. lol</P>

byron
01-30-2012, 02:10 PM
hey all </P>


Most pundents/ analyst are picking us to win,,, something that's driving some Pats fans nuts...Quite a change for 07... while I like it that they are getting a taste of what us giants fans put up with in07 no sure I like the role reversal...</P>


I don't havemany if anyquirks/superstitions about how/where I watch the game whatI'm wearingetc,etc ButI do worry about this team /players getting to ****y I just think its badkarma..My only other concern is the extra week offand whether it will have a effect on the <FONT color=#000000>focus and drive thatwe've seen the last 5 weeks ... Anydrop offof thatintensitycouldbekiller and worrys me....</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000000>I don't know about anyone else I don't like the wait.. I've backed off my reading and don't watch much media..I just want this game over and done withbut of coarse I hope we win...In fact I hope we blow them out, but that's probably unrealistic thinking....</FONT></P>


Its been one crazy year with thisteam but no matter what happensthis Sunday I'm proud of what they have accomplished... AndI hope they go easy on me this week!!</P>


G- Men all in all the way!!!!<FONT color=#000000></FONT></P>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 02:24 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



Gasol is a superstar as well my friend. They are both 2nd in line on their teams.

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 02:30 PM
<font size="1"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">

<font size="3">Which one is Pau and which one is Amare? </font></font></font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">

<font size="2">Excellent
physical skills... Has a very good mix of strength, athleticism and
quickness... Able to outmuscle most big men in the league... Very
aggressive... Can put the ball on the floor... Great first step... Good
mid-range shot... A dunk waiting to happen... Runs the floor like very
few other big men... Great hands... Doesn't put much effort
defensively... Doesn't pass the ball much... Average rebounder.

</font></font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Lethal
low-post scorer... Can face the basket or play back to it using more his
quickness than his body... A dunk waiting to happen... His hook shot
comes from the highest point possible... Difficult to block... Can score
with both hands... Nice mid-range shot... Good coordination... Runs the
floor well... Great first step... Goes to the line very often... Good
passer... Smart... Makes good decisions... Very unselfish... Has
developed into a decent defensive player...</font><font size="1"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">


</font></font>

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 02:30 PM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 02:35 PM
First day at the new job.

Anyone watch the pro bowl?mehh. Although I thought it pretty cool seeing ware willis and matthews on the field at once. Id like to see a season of that.

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 02:40 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



Gasol is a superstar as well my friend. They are both 2nd in line on their teams.


lol Gasol is not a superstar... hate to break it to you -hes a compliment

and yes Stoudemire is #2 on his team, which is why they are winning 1 of the past 10...

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 02:42 PM
First day at the new job. Anyone watch the pro bowl?mehh. Although I thought it pretty cool seeing ware willis and matthews on the field at once. Id like to see a season of that.
</P>


I've watched football for as long as I can remember....and I've seen maybe 20 minutes of pro bowl play ever. lol
Although one of the times i DID watch a few minutes of it, I was fortunate enough to watch Sean Taylor nearly break every bone in Brian Moorman's body on that fake punt play in 07. lol
I still look up the clip on youtube a few times a year to watch =]</P>

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 02:46 PM
and yes Stoudemire is #2 on his team, which is why they are winning 1 of the past 10...


</P>


sad but true. With Melo taking 25+ shots a game, it's hard to get anything going...</P>


damn, Dantoni really needs a PG lol</P>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 02:49 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



Gasol is a superstar as well my friend. They are both 2nd in line on their teams.


lol Gasol is not a superstar... hate to break it to you -hes a compliment

and yes Stoudemire is #2 on his team, which is why they are winning 1 of the past 10...



We have tried this conversation before. It always ends the same. You just don't give him enough credit. I guess we will see how Amare plays the next 2 games with no Melo.

Kase-1
01-30-2012, 02:54 PM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL

Kase-1
01-30-2012, 02:57 PM
First day at the new job.

Anyone watch the pro bowl?mehh. Although I thought it pretty cool seeing ware willis and matthews on the field at once. Id like to see a season of that.
Being a defense 1st fan, the Pro Bowl really aint my thing, but it was tolerable, who am I kidding it was painful for 90% of the time

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 02:57 PM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL



Which was about as bad as the Pro Bowl

Morehead State
01-30-2012, 03:00 PM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL


</P>


I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <FONT size=5>Where we're in the game</FONT>.</P>


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</P>


BTW Dezz, your masking "that word" makes you Mutt of the year. Not cool at all.</P>


Now back to the beach.</P>

Kase-1
01-30-2012, 03:01 PM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL



Which was about as bad as the Pro Bowl
Oh dont get me wrong, theyre both painful to watch.... I DO like the NHL Skills Competition though

Kase-1
01-30-2012, 03:04 PM
<h1 class="entry-title"><font size="4">L.I. BBQ Joint Will Pay For Your Super Bowl Party If GiantsWin</font></h1>

</p><div class="wp-caption">


Ribs from Smokin’ Al’s</p>
</div>

BAY SHORE, NY (CBSNewYork) -The Giants (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/giants-cruz-came-out-of-nowhere-actually-he-came-from-umass/)take on the Patriots in Indianapolis next weekend for Super Bowl XLVIand there is a party promotion on Long Island (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/sean-landeta-celebrates-giants-first-super-bowl-win-mangano-lauds-economic-boost/)that is almost too good to be true.</p>


WCBS880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs On The Story<span style="text-align:left;display:block;"></span></p>


Al Horowitz of Smokin’ Al’s BBQ Joint in Bay Shore (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/homeless-l-i-teen-not-science-contest-finalist-but-still-a-winner/) will reimburse the cost of your Super Bowl party order if the Giants win.</p>


“Pick up the food. You put it on a credit card, and if the Giants win, we rip up all the <span id="itxthook0w0" class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent; font-size: inherit; font-weight: inherit; color: darkgreen;">credit</span><span id="itxthook0w1" class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent; font-size: inherit; font-weight: inherit; color: darkgreen;"> </span><span id="itxthook0w2" class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent; font-size: inherit; font-weight: inherit; color: darkgreen;">cards</span> (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/l-i-bbq-joint-will-pay-for-your-super-bowl-party-if-giants-win/#). We cancel them all out and the food is free on Smokin’ Al’s,” he told WCBS880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs.</p>


LINK: Smokin’ Al’s Website (http://www.smokinals.com/)</p><div class="entry-injected-ad narrow">

</div>


And if that’s not crazy enough, Smokin’ Al himself is rooting for the Giants.</p>


“Go Giants. I want them to win. This thing only works great for us if the Giants win,” he said.</p>


Smokin’ Al says it’ll be a pleasure to lose thousands of dollars in food to his <span id="itxthook1w0" class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent; font-size: inherit; font-weight: inherit; color: darkgreen;">customers</span> (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/l-i-bbq-joint-will-pay-for-your-super-bowl-party-if-giants-win/#).</p>


Smokin’ Al has a second location in Massapequa Park.</p>


“Super Bowl Sunday, both locations will be buzzing,” he said. “We cook all night. We smoke all night.”</p>


</p>

Im def getting a ton of food from Smokin Al's, its 5mins from my place and they make the best BBQ on LI by a freakin mile
</p>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 03:10 PM
<div class="report">


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and
Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to
play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two
years.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"Peyton is going to do every single thing a
human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper,
whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone
predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their
breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there."
Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the
regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</div>

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 03:11 PM
First day at the new job.

Anyone watch the pro bowl?mehh. Although I thought it pretty cool seeing ware willis and matthews on the field at once. Id like to see a season of that.
Being a defense 1st fan, the Pro Bowl really aint my thing, but it was tolerable, who am I kidding it was painful for 90% of the time
yea i only saw like the first few minutes.

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 03:12 PM
I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <font size="5">Where we're in the game</font>.


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</p>
I might be in the minority here but I am sick of talking about the game, watching the shows about the game, hearing about it on Facebook, listening to the analysis, hearing it on the radio. I just want to play the game already. lol

lttaylor56
01-30-2012, 03:12 PM
Our team arrived in Indy at @ 2:45 this afternoon. Now it's time to get down to business. I can't find video of them leaving/arriving anywhere, I guess I will have to wait until I get home for nfl network.

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 03:12 PM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL


</p>


I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <font size="5">Where we're in the game</font>.</p>


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</p>


BTW Dezz, your masking "that word" makes you Mutt of the year. Not cool at all.</p>


Now back to the beach.</p>Still have thin skin when youre on a vacation? You must be a downer to travel with.

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 03:13 PM
<H1 class=entry-title><FONT size=4>L.I. BBQ Joint Will Pay For Your Super Bowl Party If GiantsWin</FONT></H1>


</P>
<DIV class=wp-caption>


Ribs from Smokin’ Al’s</P></DIV>


BAY SHORE, NY (CBSNewYork) -The Giants (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/giants-cruz-came-out-of-nowhere-actually-he-came-from-umass/)take on the Patriots in Indianapolis next weekend for Super Bowl XLVIand there is a party promotion on Long Island (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/sean-landeta-celebrates-giants-first-super-bowl-win-mangano-lauds-economic-boost/)that is almost too good to be true.</P>


WCBS880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs On The Story<SPAN style="DISPLAY: block; TEXT-ALIGN: left"></SPAN></P>


Al Horowitz of Smokin’ Al’s BBQ Joint in Bay Shore (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/homeless-l-i-teen-not-science-contest-finalist-but-still-a-winner/) will reimburse the cost of your Super Bowl party order if the Giants win.</P>


“Pick up the food. You put it on a credit card, and if the Giants win, we rip up all the <SPAN class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id=itxthook0w0 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">credit</SPAN><SPAN class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id=itxthook0w1 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen"> </SPAN><SPAN class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id=itxthook0w2 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">cards</SPAN> (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/l-i-bbq-joint-will-pay-for-your-super-bowl-party-if-giants-win/#). We cancel them all out and the food is free on Smokin’ Al’s,” he told WCBS880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs.</P>


LINK: Smokin’ Al’s Website (http://www.smokinals.com/)</P>
<DIV class="entry-injected-ad narrow"></DIV>


And if that’s not crazy enough, Smokin’ Al himself is rooting for the Giants.</P>


“Go Giants. I want them to win. This thing only works great for us if the Giants win,” he said.</P>


Smokin’ Al says it’ll be a pleasure to lose thousands of dollars in food to his <SPAN class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id=itxthook1w0 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">customers</SPAN> (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/l-i-bbq-joint-will-pay-for-your-super-bowl-party-if-giants-win/#).</P>


Smokin’ Al has a second location in Massapequa Park.</P>


“Super Bowl Sunday, both locations will be buzzing,” he said. “We cook all night. We smoke all night.”</P>



</P>


Im def getting a ton of food from Smokin Al's, its 5mins from my place and they make the best BBQ on LI by a freakin mile
</P>


</P>


haha that's pretty ****ing awesome.</P>


The bar i go to happens to be a bbq joint actually. My favorite thing they have there is called PiggyMac....
It's the most bangin' home made mac and cheese ever, with bread crumbs baked on it, served ON TOP OF a ton of bbq pulled pork. the dish is massive and it's so hard to finish. But after eating it the first time, i'm pretty sure any other meal i'll have for the rest of my life fails in comparison. lol
Oh, and they have $5 pitchers of bud light, so that's a win too...haha</P>

lttaylor56
01-30-2012, 03:14 PM
Our team arrived in Indy at @ 2:45 this afternoon. Now it's time to get down to business. I can't find video of them leaving/arriving anywhere, I guess I will have to wait until I get home for nfl network.Saw 1 pic of Tuck in a tan suit. The players did not all wear black like they did in 2007.

2007 they wore all black because they said they were attending the Patriots funeral. Hell yeah!!!!

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 03:15 PM
I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <FONT size=5>Where we're in the game</FONT>.


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</P>



I might be in the minority here but I am sick of talking about the game, watching the shows about the game, hearing about it on Facebook, listening to the analysis, hearing it on the radio. I just want to play the game already. lol
</P>


me too. i hate the anticipation. im kinda tired of talking about it. i just want to WIN IT and bring the trophy back to it's rightful place!!</P>

lttaylor56
01-30-2012, 03:16 PM
<H1 class=entry-title><FONT size=4>L.I. BBQ Joint Will Pay For Your Super Bowl Party If Giants*Win</FONT></H1>


</P>
<DIV class=wp-caption>


Ribs from Smokin’ Al’s</P></DIV>


BAY SHORE, NY (CBSNewYork) -*The Giants (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/giants-cruz-came-out-of-nowhere-actually-he-came-from-umass/)*take on the Patriots in Indianapolis next weekend for Super Bowl XLVI*and there is a party promotion on Long Island (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/sean-landeta-celebrates-giants-first-super-bowl-win-mangano-lauds-economic-boost/)*that is almost too good to be true.</P>


WCBS*880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs On The Story<SPAN style="DISPLAY: block; TEXT-ALIGN: left"></SPAN></P>


Al Horowitz of Smokin’ Al’s BBQ Joint in Bay Shore (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/homeless-l-i-teen-not-science-contest-finalist-but-still-a-winner/) will reimburse the cost of your Super Bowl party order if the Giants win.</P>


“Pick up the food. You put it on a credit card, and if the Giants win, we rip up all the <SPAN class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id=itxthook0w0 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">credit</SPAN><SPAN class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id=itxthook0w1 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen"> </SPAN><SPAN class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id=itxthook0w2 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">cards</SPAN> (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/l-i-bbq-joint-will-pay-for-your-super-bowl-party-if-giants-win/#). We cancel them all out and the food is free on Smokin’ Al’s,” he told WCBS*880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs.</P>


LINK: Smokin’ Al’s Website (http://www.smokinals.com/)</P>
<DIV class="entry-injected-ad narrow"></DIV>


And if that’s not crazy enough, Smokin’ Al himself is rooting for the Giants.</P>


“Go Giants. I want them to win. This thing only works great for us if the Giants win,” he said.</P>


Smokin’ Al says it’ll be a pleasure to lose thousands of dollars in food to his <SPAN class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id=itxthook1w0 style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">customers</SPAN> (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/l-i-bbq-joint-will-pay-for-your-super-bowl-party-if-giants-win/#).</P>


Smokin’ Al has a second location in Massapequa Park.</P>


“Super Bowl Sunday, both locations will be buzzing,” he said. “We cook all night. We smoke all night.”</P>



</P>


Im def getting a ton of food from Smokin Al's, its 5mins from my place and they make the best BBQ on LI by a freakin mile
</P>


</P>


haha that's pretty ****ing awesome.</P>


The bar i go to happens to be a bbq joint actually. My favorite thing they have there is called PiggyMac....
It's the most bangin' home made mac and cheese ever, with bread crumbs baked on it, served ON TOP OF a ton of bbq pulled pork. the dish is massive and it's so hard to finish. But after eating it the first time, i'm pretty sure any other meal i'll have for the rest of my life fails in comparison. lol
Oh, and they have $5 pitchers of bud light, so that's a win too...haha</P>Mac and cheese rules. $5 pitchers is just icing on the cake. Nice

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 03:18 PM
Still have thin skin when youre on a vacation? You must be a downer to travel with.
</P>


i lol'd</P>

lttaylor56
01-30-2012, 03:20 PM
I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week.* <FONT size=5>Where we're in the game</FONT>.


You are all minor league MB posters.* Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</P>



I might be in the minority here but I am sick of talking about the game, watching the shows about the game, hearing about it on Facebook, listening to the analysis, hearing it on the radio. I just want to play the game already. lol
</P>


me too. i hate the anticipation. im kinda tired of talking about it. i just want to WIN IT and bring the trophy back to it's rightful place!!</P>I am losing my ability to concentrate on anything other than the upcoming game. Can't wait for media day tomorrow, the upcoming interviews on the giants app, cable specials...I'm losin it man! They have to win.

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 03:21 PM
Mac and cheese rules. $5 pitchers is just icing on the cake. Nice</P>


wait wait...let me say it again...

Mac &amp; Cheese....ON TOP OF.....BBQ pulled pork!!!!</P>

lttaylor56
01-30-2012, 03:21 PM
Still have thin skin when youre on a vacation? You must be a downer to travel with.
</P>


i lol'd</P>That was a good funny by Dezz...It's just mh's schtick, that's all.

lttaylor56
01-30-2012, 03:24 PM
Mac and cheese rules. $5 pitchers is just icing on the cake. Nice</P>


wait wait...let me say it again...

Mac & Cheese....ON TOP OF.....BBQ pulled pork!!!!</P>Sweet jesus....I'm hungry

Kase-1
01-30-2012, 03:28 PM
Mac and cheese rules. $5 pitchers is just icing on the cake. Nice</p>


wait wait...let me say it again...

Mac &amp; Cheese....ON TOP OF.....BBQ pulled pork!!!!</p>Damn that sounds good!!!

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 03:32 PM
<div class="report">


ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Rob Gronkowski
(high ankle sprain) will be at less than 100 percent -- and perhaps
significantly so -- against the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"There are very people -- nobody -- who fully expects him to be 100 percent," Schefter said on Monday's SportsCenter.
"The Patriots are going to have to get used to having a limited
Gronkowski" against the Giants. Gronkowski is fully expected to play,
but it sounds like he could be susceptible to re-injury.



One person lands on this the wrong way and he is done for the game.
</div>

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 03:33 PM
I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <font size="5">Where we're in the game</font>.


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</p>
I might be in the minority here but I am sick of talking about the game, watching the shows about the game, hearing about it on Facebook, listening to the analysis, hearing it on the radio. I just want to play the game already. lol
me too. But Ill see like a Brady vs Eli coming up on the sports center scroll thing, I still need to watch in case i didnt see it or something happened.

Im so anxious. I feel good about it but Brady.......looms over the good feeling.

byron
01-30-2012, 03:34 PM
I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <FONT size=5>Where we're in the game</FONT>.


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</P>
I might be in the minority here but I am sick of talking about the game, watching the shows about the game, hearing about it on Facebook, listening to the analysis, hearing it on the radio. I just want to play the game already. lol
thats what I said in my post lets get this thing over

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 03:35 PM
<div class="report">


ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Rob Gronkowski
(high ankle sprain) will be at less than 100 percent -- and perhaps
significantly so -- against the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"There are very people -- nobody -- who fully expects him to be 100 percent," Schefter said on Monday's SportsCenter.
"The Patriots are going to have to get used to having a limited
Gronkowski" against the Giants. Gronkowski is fully expected to play,
but it sounds like he could be susceptible to re-injury.



One person lands on this the wrong way and he is done for the game.
</div>Even if he plants it wrong its going to hurt him. I dont see him being much of a factor. Got to watch hernandez and wes.

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 03:36 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



Gasol is a superstar as well my friend. They are both 2nd in line on their teams.


lol Gasol is not a superstar... hate to break it to you -hes a compliment

and yes Stoudemire is #2 on his team, which is why they are winning 1 of the past 10...



We have tried this conversation before. It always ends the same. You just don't give him enough credit. I guess we will see how Amare plays the next 2 games with no Melo.


we've seen how hes played wihtout mello for most of last year

the difference this year is that they have no Felton or Billups and another big man clogging up the paint in an offensive system that doesn't allow that

only laker fans would take Gasol of Amare

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 03:38 PM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL


</p>


I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <font size="5">Where we're in the game</font>.</p>


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</p>


BTW Dezz, your masking "that word" makes you Mutt of the year. Not cool at all.</p>


Now back to the beach.</p>

lol moorehead, this is your third sighting of message boarding while on vacation

u must be having a killer time lol

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 03:39 PM
<div class="report">


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and
Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to
play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two
years.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"Peyton is going to do every single thing a
human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper,
whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone
predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their
breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there."
Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the
regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</div>

Redskin bound

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 03:40 PM
I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <font size="5">Where we're in the game</font>.


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</p>
I might be in the minority here but I am sick of talking about the game, watching the shows about the game, hearing about it on Facebook, listening to the analysis, hearing it on the radio. I just want to play the game already. lol


aint nothing more to talk about - time to play it

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 03:42 PM
<div class="report">


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and
Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to
play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two
years.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"Peyton is going to do every single thing a
human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper,
whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone
predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their
breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there."
Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the
regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</div>

Redskin bound
i think miami. hes not coming to nfc east. i think peyton being in the afc is a big reason eli didnt want to be a charger. or his dad didnt want him being a charger. like i said i cant see peyton wanting to play in the same division let alone league as eli.

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 03:43 PM
<h1 class="entry-title"><font size="4">L.I. BBQ Joint Will Pay For Your Super Bowl Party If GiantsWin</font></h1>


</p>
<div class="wp-caption">


Ribs from Smokin’ Al’s</p></div>


BAY SHORE, NY (CBSNewYork) -The Giants (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/giants-cruz-came-out-of-nowhere-actually-he-came-from-umass/)take on the Patriots in Indianapolis next weekend for Super Bowl XLVIand there is a party promotion on Long Island (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/sean-landeta-celebrates-giants-first-super-bowl-win-mangano-lauds-economic-boost/)that is almost too good to be true.</p>


WCBS880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs On The Story<span style="DISPLAY: block; TEXT-ALIGN: left"></span></p>


Al Horowitz of Smokin’ Al’s BBQ Joint in Bay Shore (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/homeless-l-i-teen-not-science-contest-finalist-but-still-a-winner/) will reimburse the cost of your Super Bowl party order if the Giants win.</p>


“Pick up the food. You put it on a credit card, and if the Giants win, we rip up all the <span class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id="itxthook0w0" style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">credit</span><span class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id="itxthook0w1" style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen"> </span><span class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id="itxthook0w2" style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">cards</span> (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/l-i-bbq-joint-will-pay-for-your-super-bowl-party-if-giants-win/#). We cancel them all out and the food is free on Smokin’ Al’s,” he told WCBS880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs.</p>


LINK: Smokin’ Al’s Website (http://www.smokinals.com/)</p>
<div class="entry-injected-ad narrow"></div>


And if that’s not crazy enough, Smokin’ Al himself is rooting for the Giants.</p>


“Go Giants. I want them to win. This thing only works great for us if the Giants win,” he said.</p>


Smokin’ Al says it’ll be a pleasure to lose thousands of dollars in food to his <span class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan" id="itxthook1w0" style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; COLOR: darkgreen">customers</span> (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/27/l-i-bbq-joint-will-pay-for-your-super-bowl-party-if-giants-win/#).</p>


Smokin’ Al has a second location in Massapequa Park.</p>


“Super Bowl Sunday, both locations will be buzzing,” he said. “We cook all night. We smoke all night.”</p>



</p>


Im def getting a ton of food from Smokin Al's, its 5mins from my place and they make the best BBQ on LI by a freakin mile
</p>


</p>


haha that's pretty ****ing awesome.</p>


The bar i go to happens to be a bbq joint actually. My favorite thing they have there is called PiggyMac....
It's the most bangin' home made mac and cheese ever, with bread crumbs baked on it, served ON TOP OF a ton of bbq pulled pork. the dish is massive and it's so hard to finish. But after eating it the first time, i'm pretty sure any other meal i'll have for the rest of my life fails in comparison. lol
Oh, and they have $5 pitchers of bud light, so that's a win too...haha</p>

sounds like big al has a ****load on the game

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 03:48 PM
<div class="report">


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and
Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to
play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two
years.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"Peyton is going to do every single thing a
human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper,
whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone
predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their
breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there."
Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the
regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</div>

Redskin bound
i think miami. hes not coming to nfc east. i think peyton being in the afc is a big reason eli didnt want to be a charger. or his dad didnt want him being a charger. like i said i cant see peyton wanting to play in the same division let alone league as eli.


he won't come to the Jets, NFC east is a diff story

They didn't want him to be a Charger because they knew AJ smith was a moron.

I could see him wanting to be a redskin because they have a good line, good talent positions, and a good defense that would be 10x better with an offense

I think Miami is getting Flynn

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 03:51 PM
aint nothing more to talk about - time to play it
</P>


I think it was The Most Electrifying Man in Sports-Entertainment, The Rock, who once said:

Dont sing it.....BRING IT!</P>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 03:51 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



Gasol is a superstar as well my friend. They are both 2nd in line on their teams.


lol Gasol is not a superstar... hate to break it to you -hes a compliment

and yes Stoudemire is #2 on his team, which is why they are winning 1 of the past 10...



We have tried this conversation before. It always ends the same. You just don't give him enough credit. I guess we will see how Amare plays the next 2 games with no Melo.


we've seen how hes played wihtout mello for most of last year

the difference this year is that they have no Felton or Billups and another big man clogging up the paint in an offensive system that doesn't allow that

only laker fans would take Gasol of Amare

Yeah we did see, he wasn't very good. He makes the All Star game cause it's fan voting so don't use that but what has he done that Pau can't do better or has already done? He was taking the Grizzlies when they didn't have anyone to the playoffs consistently. He was a one man team. Amare had a team of ballers and they were not getting it done. They did own the Lakers during that time though. lol

Maybe I don't see enough of Amare. I do see Pau has 178 more fantasy points ;)

Post it on your FB, who is better Pau or Amare?

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 03:52 PM
<div class="report">


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and
Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to
play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two
years.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"Peyton is going to do every single thing a
human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper,
whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone
predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their
breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there."
Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the
regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</div>

Redskin bound
i think miami. hes not coming to nfc east. i think peyton being in the afc is a big reason eli didnt want to be a charger. or his dad didnt want him being a charger. like i said i cant see peyton wanting to play in the same division let alone league as eli.


he won't come to the Jets, NFC east is a diff story

They didn't want him to be a Charger because they knew AJ smith was a moron.

I could see him wanting to be a redskin because they have a good line, good talent positions, and a good defense that would be 10x better with an offense

I think Miami is getting Flynn
well i hope thats not the case.if wash lands peyton the nfc east is going to be a war zone.

dezzzR
01-30-2012, 03:54 PM
aint nothing more to talk about - time to play it
</p>


I think it was The Most Electrifying Man in Sports-Entertainment, The Rock, who once said:

Dont sing it.....BRING IT!</p>lol

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 03:55 PM
Speak of the devil...

<div class="report">


The Sixers have inquired about Amare Stoudemire, a source tells CSN Philadelphia.</p>
</div>

With the Knicks in the tank and Stoudemire
struggling, trade rumors are going to come up. It's almost certainly
just "due diligence" on the part of Rod Thorn. The Sixers aren't going
to give up their promising young core plus draft picks for a $100
million man with a history of knee issues.

Why would they dump this Superstar if he is so good for anyone besides Dwight? Remind you Pau doesn't come up in any trade rumors EVER unless it's for Dwight or CP3 or another "superstar".

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 03:59 PM
Remind you Pau doesn't come up in any trade rumors EVER unless it's for Dwight or CP3 or another "superstar".
</P>


yea cuz nobody ****ing wants him lol</P>

Kase-1
01-30-2012, 04:05 PM
aint nothing more to talk about - time to play it
</p>


I think it was The Most Electrifying Man in Sports-Entertainment, The Rock, who once said:

Dont sing it.....BRING IT!</p>He also said 'Know your role and shut your mouth, ya jabroni... If ya SMEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL what the rock..... Is cookin'

LOL, good ol WWF

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:09 PM
Gasol better than Stoudemire?....lol, yea ok...whatever you say.

The Knicks just need to get rid of Dantoni. Which I can say....I used to love Dantoni as a coach. It's so weird to see that he doesnt know how to use Stoudemire in NY, the way he was in Phx.

I have nothing against Howard or anything....but I'm a fan of Amare</p>
Pau is a better passer, post player, shooter, better B'ball IQ and they are the same in rebounding

Amare is a better individual scorer and a little better of a defender maybe.

Pau has a rep of being soft so that kills him. No way Amare was taking those Grizzlies teams to the playoffs. I don't expect you to take your homer shades off but anyone that knows the NBA would tell you the same thing. There are plenty of NBA heads that call Gasol the best post man in the game.

I have also watched Amare his whole career so it's not like I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If he was as good as you make him out to be the Suns would have never let him walk. Steve Nash made Amare what he was, he is not the same player anymore.


Bottom line, Amare is a superstar Gasol is a 2nd in line....



Gasol is a superstar as well my friend. They are both 2nd in line on their teams.


lol Gasol is not a superstar... hate to break it to you -hes a compliment

and yes Stoudemire is #2 on his team, which is why they are winning 1 of the past 10...



We have tried this conversation before. It always ends the same. You just don't give him enough credit. I guess we will see how Amare plays the next 2 games with no Melo.


we've seen how hes played wihtout mello for most of last year

the difference this year is that they have no Felton or Billups and another big man clogging up the paint in an offensive system that doesn't allow that

only laker fans would take Gasol of Amare

Yeah we did see, he wasn't very good. He makes the All Star game cause it's fan voting so don't use that but what has he done that Pau can't do better or has already done? He was taking the Grizzlies when they didn't have anyone to the playoffs consistently. He was a one man team. Amare had a team of ballers and they were not getting it done. They did own the Lakers during that time though. lol

Maybe I don't see enough of Amare. I do see Pau has 178 more fantasy points ;)

Post it on your FB, who is better Pau or Amare?




amare wasn't very good?

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/1727/year/2011/amare-stoudemire

Feb 23rd was the first game melo played with the Knicks.

Even if ur saying hes only an allstar because hes a fan favorite, that also plays into my "TOTAL PACKAGE" comment, where hes also good on the business side.

did u really just reference Gasol as being better than Amare because of what he did with Memphis? I think its time to give this argument up.

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:09 PM
Remind you Pau doesn't come up in any trade rumors EVER unless it's for Dwight or CP3 or another "superstar".
</p>


yea cuz nobody ****ing wants him lol</p>
LOL, go blow Steve Nash

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 04:10 PM
aint nothing more to talk about - time to play it
</P>


I think it was The Most Electrifying Man in Sports-Entertainment, The Rock, who once said:

Dont sing it.....BRING IT!</P>


He also said 'Know your role and shut your mouth, ya jabroni... If ya SMEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL what the rock..... Is cookin'

LOL, good ol WWF
</P>


The JP is going to take this football....shine it up reeeeal nice..............TURN THAT SUM***** SIDEWAYS AND STICK IT STRAIGHT UP YOUR CANDY ***!!!!!!!!!</P>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:10 PM
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<td width="30%" align="left">L. Aldridge (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/portland-trail-blazers/players/lamarcus-aldridge/profile/12/25/359)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">23.4 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" height="20" width="100%" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/2">
<td width="5%" align="center">3</td>
<td width="30%" align="left">C. Bosh (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/miami-heat/players/chris-bosh/profile/12/15/211)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">22.6 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" height="20" width="100%" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/3">
<td width="5%" align="center">4</td>
<td width="30%" align="left">B. Griffin (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/los-angeles-clippers/players/blake-griffin/profile/12/12/170)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">22.2 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" height="20" width="100%" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/4">
<td width="5%" align="center">5</td>
<td width="30%" align="left">P. Millsap (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/utah-j***/players/paul-millsap/profile/12/29/428)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">22.2 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" height="20" width="100%" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/5">
<td width="5%" align="center">6</td>
<td width="30%" align="left">P. Gasol (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/los-angeles-lakers/players/pau-gasol/profile/12/13/185)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">22.0 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" height="20" width="100%" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/6">
<td width="5%" align="center">7</td>
<td width="30%" align="left">D. Lee (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/golden-state-warriors/players/david-lee/profile/12/9/124)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">21.5 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" height="20" width="100%" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/7">
<td width="5%" align="center">8</td>
<td width="30%" align="left">A. Bargnani (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/toronto-raptors/players/andrea-bargnani/profile/12/28/405)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">20.6 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" height="20" width="100%" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/8">
<td width="5%" align="center">9</td>
<td width="30%" align="left">J. Smith (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/atlanta-hawks/players/josh-smith/profile/12/1/12)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">19.4 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

<table class="statscontent" height="20" width="100%" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/9"><td width="5%" align="center">10</td>
<td width="30%" align="left">C. Boozer (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/chicago-bulls/players/carlos-boozer/profile/12/4/47)</td>
<td width="8%" align="right">18.5 </td></tr></tbody></table>

Amar'e is 16th on this list if you were wondering?

byron
01-30-2012, 04:11 PM
<DIV class=report>


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two years.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>"Peyton is going to do every single thing a human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper, whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there." Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</DIV>

Redskin bound
I'm thinking there is a good chance he's done... Teams may not want a guy who is risking getting hit and winding up in a wheel chair...So many things to think about here.. some I should hope he is thinking about....Starting with accepting that maybe its time to hang them up... nobody wants to see him end up in a wheel chairlet aloneactually witness it....Now I don't know the whole story with his neck but he needs to use that thing that's hooked it ...

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:11 PM
Speak of the devil...

<div class="report">


The Sixers have inquired about Amare Stoudemire, a source tells CSN Philadelphia.</p>
</div>

With the Knicks in the tank and Stoudemire
struggling, trade rumors are going to come up. It's almost certainly
just "due diligence" on the part of Rod Thorn. The Sixers aren't going
to give up their promising young core plus draft picks for a $100
million man with a history of knee issues.

Why would they dump this Superstar if he is so good for anyone besides Dwight? Remind you Pau doesn't come up in any trade rumors EVER unless it's for Dwight or CP3 or another "superstar".


cuz he doesn't fit with Chandler and Melo and those are the two other superstars, it will never work.

And why does somebody ELSE inquiring about Amare somehow make your point that he isn't a highly desired guy?

My question is, why does nobody inquire about getting Gasol?

byron
01-30-2012, 04:16 PM
Speak of the devil...


<DIV class=report>


The Sixers have inquired about Amare Stoudemire, a source tells CSN Philadelphia.</P></DIV>


With the Knicks in the tank and Stoudemire struggling, trade rumors are going to come up. It's almost certainly just "due diligence" on the part of Rod Thorn. The Sixers aren't going to give up their promising young core plus draft picks for a $100 million man with a history of knee issues.

Why would they dump this Superstar if he is so good for anyone besides Dwight? Remind you Pau doesn't come up in any trade rumors EVER unless it's for Dwight or CP3 or another "superstar".


cuz he doesn't fit with Chandler and Melo and those are the two other superstars, it will never work.

And why does somebody ELSE inquiring about Amare somehow make your point that he isn't a highly desired guy?

My question is, why does nobody inquire about getting Gasol?
I think it's because he is a tall guy not bad looking and plays a meanthe piano ;)</P>


</P>


</P>


I'll leave now </P>


Go Giants </P>

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:16 PM
<table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/0"><td align="center" width="5%">1</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">K. Love (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/players/kevin-love/profile/12/17/244)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">27.9 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/1">
<td align="center" width="5%">2</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">L. Aldridge (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/portland-trail-blazers/players/lamarcus-aldridge/profile/12/25/359)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">23.4 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/2">
<td align="center" width="5%">3</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">C. Bosh (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/miami-heat/players/chris-bosh/profile/12/15/211)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">22.6 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/3">
<td align="center" width="5%">4</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">B. Griffin (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/los-angeles-clippers/players/blake-griffin/profile/12/12/170)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">22.2 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/4">
<td align="center" width="5%">5</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">P. Millsap (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/utah-j***/players/paul-millsap/profile/12/29/428)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">22.2 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/5">
<td align="center" width="5%">6</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">P. Gasol (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/los-angeles-lakers/players/pau-gasol/profile/12/13/185)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">22.0 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/6">
<td align="center" width="5%">7</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">D. Lee (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/golden-state-warriors/players/david-lee/profile/12/9/124)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">21.5 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/7">
<td align="center" width="5%">8</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">A. Bargnani (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/toronto-raptors/players/andrea-bargnani/profile/12/28/405)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">20.6 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table><table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#EBE9E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%">
<tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/8">
<td align="center" width="5%">9</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">J. Smith (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/atlanta-hawks/players/josh-smith/profile/12/1/12)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">19.4 </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

<table class="statscontent" bgcolor="#F8F8F8" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="20" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="statscontent" id="myid17/9"><td align="center" width="5%">10</td>
<td align="left" width="30%">C. Boozer (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/chicago-bulls/players/carlos-boozer/profile/12/4/47)</td>
<td align="right" width="8%">18.5 </td></tr></tbody></table>

Amar'e is 16th on this list if you were wondering?


what list is that? lol

byron
01-30-2012, 04:18 PM
aint nothing more to talk about - time to play it
</P>


I think it was The Most Electrifying Man in Sports-Entertainment, The Rock, who once said:

Dont sing it.....BRING IT!</P>


He also said 'Know your role and shut your mouth, ya jabroni... If ya SMEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL what the rock..... Is cookin'

LOL, good ol WWF
</P>


The JP is going to take this football....shine it up reeeeal nice..............TURN THAT SUM***** SIDEWAYS AND STICK IT STRAIGHT UP YOUR CANDY ***!!!!!!!!!</P> lmao

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:18 PM
<div class="report">


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two years.</p></div>
<div class="impact">"Peyton is going to do every single thing a human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper, whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there." Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</div>

Redskin bound
I'm thinking there is a good chance he's done... Teams may not want a guy who is risking getting hit and winding up in a wheel chair...So many things to think about here.. some I should hope he is thinking about....Starting with accepting that maybe its time to hang them up... nobody wants to see him end up in a wheel chairlet aloneactually witness it....Now I don't know the whole story with his neck but he needs to use that thing that's hooked it ...

i think somebody is going to take the MMB approach and take a chance on him...

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 04:18 PM
Remind you Pau doesn't come up in any trade rumors EVER unless it's for Dwight or CP3 or another "superstar".
</P>


yea cuz nobody ****ing wants him lol</P>



LOL, go blow Steve Nash

</P>


I'd say that half the offensive PF/Cs in the NBA can manhandle Pau....and when Pau gets frustrated and fouls them, he'll whine about it.
Put pauin the same environment as Amare, and he most definitely willnot outplay Amare.

I just dont see it man....sorry....you put them side by side, and Pau is just not going to get the same respect in his game from anyone as STUDamire does.</P>

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:20 PM
Speak of the devil...


<div class="report">


The Sixers have inquired about Amare Stoudemire, a source tells CSN Philadelphia.</p></div>


With the Knicks in the tank and Stoudemire struggling, trade rumors are going to come up. It's almost certainly just "due diligence" on the part of Rod Thorn. The Sixers aren't going to give up their promising young core plus draft picks for a $100 million man with a history of knee issues.

Why would they dump this Superstar if he is so good for anyone besides Dwight? Remind you Pau doesn't come up in any trade rumors EVER unless it's for Dwight or CP3 or another "superstar".


cuz he doesn't fit with Chandler and Melo and those are the two other superstars, it will never work.

And why does somebody ELSE inquiring about Amare somehow make your point that he isn't a highly desired guy?

My question is, why does nobody inquire about getting Gasol?
I think it's because he is a tall guy not bad looking and plays a meanthe piano ;)</p>


</p>


</p>


I'll leave now </p>


Go Giants </p>

lol

plays the piano - told u hes cream filled lando... he likes to stroke the ivory

i stroke the furry walls

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:28 PM
Thanks alot B lol j/k

Pau will never get the credit he deserves. I'm fine with it. You guys can have Amare and his knees and partially detached retina Horace Grant goggle wearin ***!

Oh, and that horrible contract.

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:31 PM
Thanks alot B lol j/k

Pau will never get the credit he deserves. I'm fine with it. You guys can have Amare and his knees and partially detached retina Horace Grant goggle wearin ***!

Oh, and that horrible contract.


the goggles are badass

I keep hearing about the knees but nobody likes to bring up that for the past 5 years besides the year he actually got injured and missed 30 games, he only missed 6 games.

31 &gt; 29

I'll take Amare, so would most other GMs

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:34 PM
<div class="slide-description">





With an improved outside jump shot, Amar'e has become one of
the hardest power forwards to guard in the NBA. He’s averaging 21 points
per game to go along with 8.9 rebounds per game. Impressive numbers,
especially considering he plays next to Carmelo Anthony (http://bleacherreport.com/carmelo-anthony), a star player who puts up a lot of shots each game.</p>

Amare’s
biggest downfall is he is a weak defender. On the offensive end he uses
his athleticism, quickness and size to not only play well but at some
times dominate.</p>

Unfortunately he has notfigured out, or does
notcare to figure out, how to translate his offensive characteristics
of athleticism, quickness and size to the defensive end of the court.</p>


</p><div class="slide-description">





Pau Gasol is one of the best post players in the game today.
Although his numbers are not very impressive this year, averaging 16.7
points per game and 9.3 rebounds per game, Gasol is still a huge threat.</p>

Along
with his great post play, Gasol is one of the best passing big men in
the game. He has the ability to pass out of the post which enables the
Lakers to have a great inside-out game and frees up open three-point
shots. Gasol is a consistent mid-range shooter, making him a very tough
player to guard.</p>

<a href="http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/playerstats/12/5/eff">
</a></p>

<a href="http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/playerstats/12/5/eff">
</a></p>http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/playerstats/12/5/eff

Pau is dominating him in every category except rebounding. Plus has to share the post and touches with Bynum. Chandler is ineffective on the offensive side of the ball so Amare should be beasting more. Melo and Kobe are fairly close as far as weapons when healthy.
</div>

</p></div>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:37 PM
It's a shame half the chumps in our league don't set their lineups. I'm never going to catch you if people keep gifting you wins. Only 100 points behind boy and Kobe only goes 3 times this week. It could be over for you at the top buddy.

Kobe has been so awesome this year btw. He is the reason you are in first. lol

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:41 PM
<table width="347" align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td colspan="3" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">Top NBA Salaries</font></font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">1. <font color="#000000">Kobe Bryant</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/kobe_bryant.htm) <font color="#000000">LA Lakers</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm)</font></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$25,244,000</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">2. 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Gilbert Arenas (http://hoopshype.com/players/gilbert_arenas.htm) Orlando (http://hoopshype.com/Library/teams/orlando.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$19,269,308</font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">6. <font color="#000000">Dirk Nowitzki</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/dirk_nowitzki.htm) <font color="#000000">Dallas</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$19,092,873</font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">7. <font color="#000000">Pau Gasol</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/pau_gasol.htm) <font color="#000000">LA Lakers</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$18,714,150</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">8.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Carmelo Anthony</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/carmelo_anthony.htm) <font color="#000000">New York</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> $18,520,000</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">9. <font color="#000000">Amare Stoudemire</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/amare_stoudemire.htm) <font color="#000000">New York</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$18,217,705</font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">10. Joe Johnson (http://hoopshype.com/players/joe_johnson.htm) Atlanta (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/atlanta.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$18,038,573</font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">11. <font color="#000000">Dwight Howard</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/dwight_howard.htm) <font color="#000000">Orlando</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$17,885,400</font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">12. Elton Brand (http://hoopshype.com/players/elton_brand.htm) Philadelphia (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/philadelphia.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$17,059,726</font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">13. <font color="#000000">Deron Williams</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/deron_williams.htm) <font color="#000000">New Jersey</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_jersey.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$16,359,805</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">14. <font color="#000000">Chris Paul</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/chris_paul.htm) <font color="#000000">LA Clippers</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_clippers.htm)</font></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> $16,359,805</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">15. <font color="#000000">Kevin Durant</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/kevin_durant.htm) <font color="#000000">Oklahoma City</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/oklahoma_city.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$16,324,500</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">16. <font color="#000000">LeBron James</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/lebron_james.htm) <font color="#000000">Miami</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm)</font></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$16,022,500</font></span></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">17. <font color="#000000">Chris Bosh</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/chris_bosh.htm) <font color="#000000">Miami</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$16,022,500</font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">18. <font color="#000000">Dwyane Wade</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/dwyane_wade.htm) <font color="#000000">Miami</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$15,512,000</font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">19. <font color="#000000">Paul Pierce</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/paul_pierce.htm) <font color="#000000">Boston</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/boston.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$15,333,334</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">20. Baron Davis (http://hoopshype.com/players/baron_davis.htm) Cleveland (http://hoopshype.com/Library/teams/cleveland.htm)</font><font color="#0000FF"> </font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">/</font><font color="#0000FF"> </font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">New York (http://hoopshype.com/Library/teams/new_york.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$15,302,181 </font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">21. <font color="#000000">Andrew Bynum</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/andrew_bynum.htm) <font color="#000000">LA Lakers</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$15,157,667</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">22. Antawn Jamison (http://hoopshype.com/players/antawn_jamison.htm) Cleveland (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$15,076,715</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">23. <font color="#000000">Rudy Gay</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/rudy_gay.htm) <font color="#000000">Memphis</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/memphis.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$15,032,144</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">24. <font color="#000000">Brandon Roy</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/brandon_roy.htm) <font color="#000000">Portland</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,940,153</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">25. Chauncey Billups (http://hoopshype.com/players/chauncey_billups.htm) LA Clippers (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_clippers.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$14,200,000</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">26. Chris Kaman (http://hoopshype.com/players/chris_kaman.htm) New Orleans (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_orleans.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$14,030,000</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">27. <font color="#000000">Al Jefferson</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/al_jefferson.htm) <font color="#000000">Utah</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,000,000</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">28. <font color="#000000">Andre Iguodala</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/andre_iguodala.htm) <font color="#000000">Philadelphia</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/philadelphia.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,531,750</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">29. Carlos Boozer (http://hoopshype.com/players/carlos_boozer.htm) Chicago (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$13,500,000</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">30. Tyson Chandler (http://hoopshype.com/players/tyson_chandler.htm) New York (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm)</font></div></td> <td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF"></font></td> <td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#0000FF">$13,107,838</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:42 PM
There are some players who are getting paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much $$$

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:43 PM
OUCH!!!

<table width="650" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#FFFFFF">Player</font></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2011/12</font></font></div></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2012/13</font></font></div></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2013/14</font></font></div></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2014/15</font></font></div></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2015/16</font></font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Carmelo Anthony</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/carmelo_anthony.htm)</font></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#000000">$18,520,000</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#009999">
</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#000000">$19,450,000</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#009999">
</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#000000">$21,490,000</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#009999">
</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div class="Estilo56" align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$23,530,000</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$0</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Amare Stoudemire</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/amare_stoudemire.htm)</font></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$18,217,705</font></span></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$19,948,799</font></span></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$21,679,893</font></span></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$23,410,988</font></span></div></td> <td valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$0</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Tyson Chandler</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/tyson_chandler.htm)</font></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,107,838</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,604,188</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,100,538</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,596,888</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:45 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0130/nfl_a_pantherlogo_300.jpg (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7517666/carolina-panthers-change-team-logo-first-time?eleven=twelve#)<div style="width: 300px;"><cite></cite>The Panthers changed their logo to give it a "more aggressive, contemporary look ... making it more three-dimensional."</div>

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:47 PM
It's a shame half the chumps in our league don't set their lineups. I'm never going to catch you if people keep gifting you wins. Only 100 points behind boy and Kobe only goes 3 times this week. It could be over for you at the top buddy.

Kobe has been so awesome this year btw. He is the reason you are in first. lol


im the second highest scoring team in the league

get off me

i love the fact that u have to cheer for kobe or against me all the time

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:48 PM
"If I could play with Derrick right now and God wanted that to happen,
it will happen," Howard told the Chicago Tribune. "It has nothing to do
with me not wanting to play with Derrick Rose. I love him. That's my
brother."


Dwight and Rose would be unfair. lol

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:48 PM
i also love the fact that I have a 4 game advantage this week, WITHOUT making moves - woop woop

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:49 PM
"If I could play with Derrick right now and God wanted that to happen,
it will happen," Howard told the Chicago Tribune. "It has nothing to do
with me not wanting to play with Derrick Rose. I love him. That's my
brother."


Dwight and Rose would be unfair. lol


DWill - Melo - DHow would be unfair

and it would piss u off so much, thats why I want it to happen

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:51 PM
It's a shame half the chumps in our league don't set their lineups. I'm never going to catch you if people keep gifting you wins. Only 100 points behind boy and Kobe only goes 3 times this week. It could be over for you at the top buddy.

Kobe has been so awesome this year btw. He is the reason you are in first. lol


im the second highest scoring team in the league

get off me

i love the fact that u have to cheer for kobe or against me all the time

Me to. I told you I was glad when you took Kobe. I don't root against you either, that is pointless. Why root for you to fail when I know you will anyway and I will finish above you again like always.

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:52 PM
OUCH!!!

<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="650"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><font color="#FFFFFF" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Player</font></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2011/12</font></font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2012/13</font></font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2013/14</font></font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2014/15</font></font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2015/16</font></font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Carmelo Anthony</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/carmelo_anthony.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$18,520,000</font><font color="#009999" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">
</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$19,450,000</font><font color="#009999" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">
</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$21,490,000</font><font color="#009999" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">
</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div class="Estilo56" align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$23,530,000</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$0</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> <td bgcolor="#CCCCCC" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Amare Stoudemire</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/amare_stoudemire.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#CCCCCC" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$18,217,705</font></span></div></td> <td bgcolor="#CCCCCC" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$19,948,799</font></span></div></td> <td bgcolor="#CCCCCC" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$21,679,893</font></span></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$23,410,988</font></span></div></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$0</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Tyson Chandler</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/tyson_chandler.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,107,838</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,604,188</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,100,538</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,596,888</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>


<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">8.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Carmelo Anthony</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/carmelo_anthony.htm) <font color="#000000">New York</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm)</font></div></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> $18,520,000</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">11. <font color="#000000">Dwight Howard</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/dwight_howard.htm) <font color="#000000">Orlando</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm)</font></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$17,885,400</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">13. <font color="#000000">Deron Williams</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/deron_williams.htm) <font color="#000000">New Jersey</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_jersey.htm)</font></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$16,359,805</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:52 PM
OUCH!!!

<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="650"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><font color="#FFFFFF" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Player</font></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2011/12</font></font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2012/13</font></font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2013/14</font></font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2014/15</font></font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003366" valign="top"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2015/16</font></font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Carmelo Anthony</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/carmelo_anthony.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$18,520,000</font><font color="#009999" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">
</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$19,450,000</font><font color="#009999" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">
</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$21,490,000</font><font color="#009999" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">
</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div class="Estilo56" align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$23,530,000</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$0</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> <td bgcolor="#CCCCCC" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Amare Stoudemire</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/amare_stoudemire.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#CCCCCC" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$18,217,705</font></span></div></td> <td bgcolor="#CCCCCC" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$19,948,799</font></span></div></td> <td bgcolor="#CCCCCC" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$21,679,893</font></span></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$23,410,988</font></span></div></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$0</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Tyson Chandler</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/tyson_chandler.htm)</font></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,107,838</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,604,188</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,100,538</font></div></td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,596,888</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>


<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">8.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Carmelo Anthony</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/carmelo_anthony.htm) <font color="#000000">New York</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm)</font></div></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> $18,520,000</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">11. <font color="#000000">Dwight Howard</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/dwight_howard.htm) <font color="#000000">New York
</font></font></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$17,885,400</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">13. <font color="#000000">Deron Williams</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/deron_williams.htm) <a href="http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_jersey.htm"><font color="#000000">New York
</font></a></font></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$16,359,805</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 04:53 PM
There are some players who are getting paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much $$$
</P>


Who the **** is Rashard Lewis!? lol</P>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:54 PM
Clutch time shooting (game w/in 5 pts under 5 mins): Bosh 16-for-27 59% | Wade 7-for-19 37% | LeBron 6-for-20 30%.

Lebron sucks!!!

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 04:57 PM
There are some players who are getting paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much $$$
</p>


Who the **** is Rashard Lewis!? lol</p>

he was the sf for the Magic when they made it to the finals a few years ago. Huge playoffs and then **** the bed the following season and got traded

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 04:59 PM
OUCH!!!

<table width="650" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" color="#FFFFFF">Player</font></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2011/12</font></font></div></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2012/13</font></font></div></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2013/14</font></font></div></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2014/15</font></font></div></td> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#003366"><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#FFFFFF">2015/16</font></font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Carmelo Anthony</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/carmelo_anthony.htm)</font></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#000000">$18,520,000</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#009999">
</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#000000">$19,450,000</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#009999">
</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#000000">$21,490,000</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" color="#009999">
</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div class="Estilo56" align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$23,530,000</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$0</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Amare Stoudemire</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/amare_stoudemire.htm)</font></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$18,217,705</font></span></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$19,948,799</font></span></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$21,679,893</font></span></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><div align="right"><span class="style18"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$23,410,988</font></span></div></td> <td valign="top" align="center" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$0</font></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Tyson Chandler</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/tyson_chandler.htm)</font></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,107,838</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$13,604,188</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,100,538</font></div></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div align="right"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$14,596,888</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>


<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><div align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">8.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#000000">Carmelo Anthony</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/carmelo_anthony.htm) <font color="#000000">New York</font> (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm)</font></div></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> $18,520,000</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">11. <font color="#000000">Dwight Howard</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/dwight_howard.htm) <font color="#000000">New York
</font></font></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$17,885,400</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table align="left" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">13. <font color="#000000">Deron Williams</font> (http://hoopshype.com/players/deron_williams.htm) <a href="http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_jersey.htm"><font color="#000000">New York
</font></a></font></td><td><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"></font></td><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">$16,359,805</font></div></td></tr></tbody></table>
I would love to see it to my friend. That would be so awesome!

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 05:01 PM
There are some players who are getting paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much $$$
</p>


Who the **** is Rashard Lewis!? lol</p>

he was the sf for the Magic when they made it to the finals a few years ago. Huge playoffs and then **** the bed the following season and got traded

Yeah, exactly Pizz. He was really good then fell off. Kind of like Joe Johnson. I still can't believe ATL gave that guy 120+ million.

You see numbers like this and the lockout starts to make sense a little from the owners side.

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 05:03 PM
There are some players who are getting paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much $$$
</P>


Who the **** is Rashard Lewis!? lol</P>




he was the sf for the Magic when they made it to the finals a few years ago. Huge playoffs and then **** the bed the following season and got traded
</P>


lol i know who he is.....its just that i had NO idea he was making that kind of money undeservingly...he's mediocre.</P>

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 05:10 PM
There are some players who are getting paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much $$$
</p>


Who the **** is Rashard Lewis!? lol</p>




he was the sf for the Magic when they made it to the finals a few years ago. Huge playoffs and then **** the bed the following season and got traded
</p>


lol i know who he is.....its just that i had NO idea he was making that kind of money undeservingly...he's mediocre.</p>
Best part is he makes $24 mil<font face="ARIAL"><font face="ARIAL" size="5"><font size="3"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> </font></font></font></font>next year<font face="ARIAL"><font face="ARIAL" size="5"><font size="3"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">
</font></font></font></font>

MattMeyerBud
01-30-2012, 05:12 PM
There are some players who are getting paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much $$$
</p>


Who the **** is Rashard Lewis!? lol</p>

he was the sf for the Magic when they made it to the finals a few years ago. Huge playoffs and then **** the bed the following season and got traded

Yeah, exactly Pizz. He was really good then fell off. Kind of like Joe Johnson. I still can't believe ATL gave that guy 120+ million.

You see numbers like this and the lockout starts to make sense a little from the owners side.


lol when did u not see the owners side

bigblue4417
01-30-2012, 05:22 PM
<div class="report">


Lakers trainer Gary Vitti said that Kobe Bryant's wrist will eventually fully heal.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
Vitti says that Kobe's knee and ankle are
non-issues. The only thing holding him back from being 100 percent is
the torn ligament in his right (shooting) wrist. It's hard to imagine
what Kobe would do at full strength -- he's averaging 30.2 points in
38.5 minutes per game right now.
</div>

JPizzack
01-30-2012, 05:52 PM
lol when did u not see the owners side
</P>


honestly man....the owners are just as stupid as the players are greedy.

but, without greedy players and stupid owners, there wouldnt be much desire to switch teams and keep things competitive. UNFORTUNATELY Darwinism doesnt affect sports like it should. Bad decisions should make teams crumble and fail lol. imagine that?!? The knicks would be defunct by now if it werent for crazy new yorkers supporting an awful team for the past 10 years lol</P>

lawl
01-30-2012, 06:48 PM
<div class="report">


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and
Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to
play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two
years.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"Peyton is going to do every single thing a
human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper,
whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone
predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their
breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there."
Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the
regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</div>

Redskin bound
i think miami. hes not coming to nfc east. i think peyton being in the afc is a big reason eli didnt want to be a charger. or his dad didnt want him being a charger. like i said i cant see peyton wanting to play in the same division let alone league as eli.


he won't come to the Jets, NFC east is a diff story

They didn't want him to be a Charger because they knew AJ smith was a moron.

I could see him wanting to be a redskin because they have a good line, good talent positions, and a good defense that would be 10x better with an offense

I think Miami is getting Flynn


Seattle, KC are options too

Morehead State
01-31-2012, 08:31 AM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL


</P>


I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <FONT size=5>Where we're in the game</FONT>.</P>


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</P>


BTW Dezz, your masking "that word" makes you Mutt of the year. Not cool at all.</P>


Now back to the beach.</P>


Still have thin skin when youre on a vacation? You must be a downer to travel with.
</P>


I don't think you understand the meaning of the term "thin skinned" Dezz.</P>


Thin skinned means that when you are personally criticized, you can't handle it. I explain this for you to avoid future embarrasment.</P>


Kinda like your hero Newt Gingrich.</P>

lttaylor56
01-31-2012, 09:32 AM
<div class="report">


ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Rob Gronkowski
(high ankle sprain) will be at less than 100 percent -- and perhaps
significantly so -- against the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"There are very people -- nobody -- who fully expects him to be 100 percent," Schefter said on Monday's SportsCenter.
"The Patriots are going to have to get used to having a limited
Gronkowski" against the Giants. Gronkowski is fully expected to play,
but it sounds like he could be susceptible to re-injury.



One person lands on this the wrong way and he is done for the game.
</div>Boomer was talking about the Gronk taking HGH to speed his recovery. I believe that he will take a ****tail shot in the ankle of pain reliever-anti-inflammatory, they will tape the hell out of it and he will play the entire game. He's 6'7" and a ****ing house @ 270 lbs. He doesn't need to make any crazy cuts or moves, all he needs to do is put his arms up and catch the ball.

MattMeyerBud
01-31-2012, 10:11 AM
lol when did u not see the owners side
</p>


honestly man....the owners are just as stupid as the players are greedy.

but, without greedy players and stupid owners, there wouldnt be much desire to switch teams and keep things competitive. UNFORTUNATELY Darwinism doesnt affect sports like it should. Bad decisions should make teams crumble and fail lol. imagine that?!? The knicks would be defunct by now if it werent for crazy new yorkers supporting an awful team for the past 10 years lol</p>

most of the owners have a losing business model

the only make money when they sell

Owners needed more protection for these guaranteed contracts.

MattMeyerBud
01-31-2012, 10:14 AM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL


</p>


I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <font size="5">Where we're in the game</font>.</p>


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</p>


BTW Dezz, your masking "that word" makes you Mutt of the year. Not cool at all.</p>


Now back to the beach.</p>


Still have thin skin when youre on a vacation? You must be a downer to travel with.
</p>


I don't think you understand the meaning of the term "thin skinned" Dezz.</p>


Thin skinned means that when you are personally criticized, you can't handle it. I explain this for you to avoid future embarrasment.</p>


Kinda like your hero Newt Gingrich.</p>

now 4 message board posts while on vacation

remind me to never go where u are.

The misses must be PISSED

Start paying attention to your misses and not our misses in thee thread (dezziree)

lttaylor56
01-31-2012, 11:07 AM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL


</p>


I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week.* <font size="5">Where we're in the game</font>.</p>


You are all minor league MB posters.* Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</p>


BTW Dezz, your masking "that word" makes you Mutt of the year.* Not cool at all.</p>


Now back to the beach.</p>


Still have thin skin when youre on a vacation? You must be a downer to travel with.
</p>


I don't think you understand the meaning of the term "thin skinned" Dezz.</p>


Thin skinned means that when you are personally criticized, you can't handle it.* I explain this for you to avoid future embarrasment.</p>


Kinda like your hero Newt Gingrich.</p>

now 4 message board posts while on vacation

remind me to never go where u are.

The misses must be PISSED

Start paying attention to your misses and not our misses in thee thread (dezziree)
lmao

MattMeyerBud
01-31-2012, 11:11 AM
<div class="report">


Cooper Manning, the older brother of Eli and
Peyton, told NFL Network's Albert Breer that Peyton is "determined" to
play in 2012 despite a slow recovery from three neck surgeries in two
years.</p>
</div>
<div class="impact">
"Peyton is going to do every single thing a
human being can possibly do to get ready to play again," said Cooper,
whose football career was ended by a neck surgery. " ... Anyone
predicting what will happen now going forward is just wasting their
breath. But he is working as hard as anyone can work to get out there."
Cooper reiterated that Peyton's ability to return depends on the
regeneration of nerves in his neck, which can be unpredictable.


This is not looking good....
</div>

Redskin bound
i think miami. hes not coming to nfc east. i think peyton being in the afc is a big reason eli didnt want to be a charger. or his dad didnt want him being a charger. like i said i cant see peyton wanting to play in the same division let alone league as eli.


he won't come to the Jets, NFC east is a diff story

They didn't want him to be a Charger because they knew AJ smith was a moron.

I could see him wanting to be a redskin because they have a good line, good talent positions, and a good defense that would be 10x better with an offense

I think Miami is getting Flynn


Seattle, KC are options too

KC is interesting, never thought of that. Seattle is def up there with the skins, forgot to mention them

im not buying the Cardinals and Dolphins thing though. Miami just got GB's OC, i think hes def going to bring in Flynn. Hes not going to want to risk the start to his HC'ing career on peytons neck. He knows what he has in Flynn

dezzzR
01-31-2012, 12:18 PM
you ****ts are talking basketball? what a joke.
I come on here, the 1st day of Sb week and these guys are talking NBA!??!?! They might as well be talking about the NHL All-Star game, LOL


</p>


I go on vacation and you mutts start talking about basketball on SB week. <font size="5">Where we're in the game</font>.</p>


You are all minor league MB posters. Every last one of you. (except Byron who actually posted about the game)</p>


BTW Dezz, your masking "that word" makes you Mutt of the year. Not cool at all.</p>


Now back to the beach.</p>


Still have thin skin when youre on a vacation? You must be a downer to travel with.
</p>


I don't think you understand the meaning of the term "thin skinned" Dezz.</p>


Thin skinned means that when you are personally criticized, you can't handle it. I explain this for you to avoid future embarrasment.</p>


Kinda like your hero Newt Gingrich.</p>Its also when you let silly things bother you. I should of known an elitest like you would HOPE to try to CHANGE the meaning of a saying to suit your own needs. Where have I seen this before?