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JPizzack
02-15-2012, 09:08 AM
good thing this was a head cold, huh??
If Matt was going in, and being subscribed valtrex, his interaction would have been more difficult than mine, wouldnt ya say?? lmao

my opener would of been... do u want the ULTIMATE valentines day gift that keeps on giving?
</P>


Herpes?</P>




your the goalie of jokes today, nothing gets by you
</P>


he must have had to interpret the whole vatrex joke.../facepalm</P>

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 09:09 AM
http://www.funnysquared.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/funnysoccerpicture4.jpg

Morehead State
02-15-2012, 09:31 AM
good thing this was a head cold, huh??
If Matt was going in, and being subscribed valtrex, his interaction would have been more difficult than mine, wouldnt ya say?? lmao

my opener would of been... do u want the ULTIMATE valentines day gift that keeps on giving?
</P>


Herpes?</P>




your the goalie of jokes today, nothing gets by you
</P>


he must have had to interpret the whole vatrex joke.../facepalm</P>


</P>


Have no idea what Valtrax is.</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 09:45 AM
http://www.funnysquared.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/funnysoccerpicture4.jpgYet you still viamently admit that you LOVE soccer much more than a real man's sport like hockey

I guess you're not a man's man, but more of a "mans man", LOL

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SqmoVYqPuAc/Th8nTedvucI/AAAAAAAACDE/6exTO8SmDdU/s1600/tobias-funke.jpg

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 10:00 AM
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/2/43%20Hockey%20is%20gay.jpg

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 10:02 AM
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/2/43%20Hockey%20is%20gay.jpgThat's uhhhh....

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/10/3/128675333651854906.jpg

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 10:05 AM
Lando those 4 lombardis sure are nice..
Sure looks alot better than the picture of 3 huh!?


I want one more then i'll be held over for a while...

these cowboy fans have been so obnoxious my whole life with that WE HAVE 5 RINGS argument.

I WANT IT ALL!
Yes--4 makes such a difference. I like the fact that the conference champ trophy is different too. That will spice up the legacy room trophy case.

F-the Cowboy's. Ya know, Romo's numbers were pretty decent this year...that dam guy, just cannot perform under pressure.

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 10:14 AM
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/2/43%20Hockey%20is%20gay.jpgNow how exactly did you find that picture, did you google 'gay hockey'?? LMAO

I dont know what goes on in French Canada, I was always a little iffy about that place, LOL

http://www.mimethegap.com/RK%20-%20Trad.%20Mime%20Sitting%20MIRROR.jpg

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 10:27 AM
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/2/43%20Hockey%20is%20gay.jpgNow how exactly did you find that picture, did you google 'gay hockey'?? LMAO

I dont know what goes on in French Canada, I was always a little iffy about that place, LOL

http://www.mimethegap.com/RK%20-%20Trad.%20Mime%20Sitting%20MIRROR.jpg
lmao

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 10:27 AM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.

JPizzack
02-15-2012, 10:35 AM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.
</P>


I dont really follow hockey much anymore. It would be pretty awesome though if the Rangers had a huge year.
'12 IS NY's YEAR!! </P>


haha</P>

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 10:36 AM
I'm watching the video posted in tagf , it's awesome. Sorry-I cannot post links anymore

New York Giants 2011 - 2012 Playoff and Superbowl Run Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0hL3GfW_PU

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 10:43 AM
I'm watching the video posted in tagf , it's awesome. Sorry-I cannot post links anymore

New York Giants 2011 - 2012 Playoff and Superbowl Run Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0hL3GfW_PUi forgot about this
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/419668/thumbs/s-JIMMY-GRAHAM-large300.jpg

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 10:49 AM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.
</p>


I dont really follow hockey much anymore. It would be pretty awesome though if the Rangers had a huge year.
'12 IS NY's YEAR!! </p>


haha</p>yesss it is!
dare i say even the knicks maybe contenders. i hate basketball, but that was awesome last night. the whole bar i was at went nuts.

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 10:55 AM
I'm watching the video posted in tagf , it's awesome. Sorry-I cannot post links anymore

New York Giants 2011 - 2012 Playoff and Superbowl Run Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0hL3GfW_PUi forgot about this
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/419668/thumbs/s-JIMMY-GRAHAM-large300.jpg
That was an awesome play!

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 11:04 AM
I'm watching the video posted in tagf , it's awesome. Sorry-I cannot post links anymore

New York Giants 2011 - 2012 Playoff and Superbowl Run Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0hL3GfW_PUGiants offense is so explosive. first 15 mins are great.

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 11:17 AM
juts signed up for my PROTECTING GODS CHILDREN certification and RUTGERS SAFTEY certification....

next basketball season it will be Coach Meyer to you fools!

JPizzack
02-15-2012, 11:19 AM
juts signed up for my PROTECTING GODS CHILDREN certification and RUTGERS SAFTEY certification....

next basketball season it will be Coach Meyer to you fools!
</P>


why would we call you that?? youre not coaching US...</P>

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 11:20 AM
juts signed up for my PROTECTING GODS CHILDREN certification and RUTGERS SAFTEY certification....

next basketball season it will be Coach Meyer to you fools!
</p>


why would we call you that?? youre not coaching US...</p>

yea but i already learns you fools - now its just official

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 11:23 AM
juts signed up for my PROTECTING GODS CHILDREN certification and RUTGERS SAFTEY certification....

next basketball season it will be Coach Meyer to you fools!
</p>


why would we call you that?? youre not coaching US...</p>

yea but i already <u>learns you </u>fools - now its just official
yea, you learn from us

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 11:25 AM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans

its just hockey is gay...

But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 11:26 AM
juts signed up for my PROTECTING GODS CHILDREN certification and RUTGERS SAFTEY certification....

next basketball season it will be Coach Meyer to you fools!
</p>


why would we call you that?? youre not coaching US...</p>

yea but i already <u>learns you </u>fools - now its just official
yea, you learn from us


only thing i learned from u is how good ur season tickets are

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 11:28 AM
great video LT. eli is incredible. wow.

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 11:29 AM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!

JPizzack
02-15-2012, 11:30 AM
juts signed up for my PROTECTING GODS CHILDREN certification and RUTGERS SAFTEY certification....

next basketball season it will be Coach Meyer to you fools!
</P>


why would we call you that?? youre not coaching US...</P>




yea but i already <U>learns you </U>fools - now its just official
yea, you learn from us


only thing i learned from u is how good ur season tickets are


</P>


i lol'd</P>

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 11:32 AM
is the road to the superbowl dvd out yet?? hope it comes in bluuuuuray

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 11:44 AM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 11:47 AM
someone needs to make a gif of jpp and tuck slamming alex smith into ground.

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 11:53 AM
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alex+Smith+NFC+Championship+New+York+Giants+nHECuA NGsXIl.jpg

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 11:57 AM
is the road to the superbowl dvd out yet?? hope it comes in bluuuuuray
Soon....sports illustrated is advertising a movie with a subscription package. The road to the superbowl is the best one--The whole season, plus playoffs, plus sb.

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 12:14 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 12:28 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!


baseball is more entertaining than hockey.. but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 12:34 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 12:36 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 12:47 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<u>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</u>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<u>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</u>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.

Morehead State
02-15-2012, 12:48 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<U>
its just hockey is gay...
</U>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<U>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</U> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway
</P>


With every pitch, 1000 decisions are being made. Its the subtle aspects of baseball that makes it a great game.</P>


You youngins drive me friggin nuts!</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 12:48 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!


baseball is more entertaining than hockey.. but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


As said before, you're mentally insane if you think BASEBALL is more entertaining than HOCKEY

Nah I think that baseball is more of a tradition rather than an entertaining game. Its not that people watch baseball cause its thrilling, theyre just so used to watching it for decades.

Hockey is popular with the more rugged and tough individuals rather than the mani/pedi crew that enjoys Jeter, oh I mean baseball

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 12:51 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway
</p>


With every pitch, 1000 decisions are being made. Its the subtle aspects of baseball that makes it a great game.</p>


You youngins drive me friggin nuts!</p>I understand that, which is why I can actually watch baseball( unlike soooome people around here cough cough myer) its like a chess game. Im just trying to point out that hockey can be just as exciting if not more. just like basketball, i hate it, but last nights knicks game was great to watch. the whole game cause they came back. maybe im just a fan of good competition

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 12:53 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck

Morehead State
02-15-2012, 12:56 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<U>
its just hockey is gay...
</U>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<U>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</U> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway
</P>


With every pitch, 1000 decisions are being made. Its the subtle aspects of baseball that makes it a great game.</P>


You youngins drive me friggin nuts!</P>


I understand that, which is why I can actually watch baseball( unlike soooome people around here cough cough myer) its like a chess game. Im just trying to point out that hockey can be just as exciting if not more. just like basketball, i hate it, but last nights knicks game was great to watch. the whole game cause they came back. maybe im just a fan of good competition
</P>


Hockey is great to watch live but not on TV. Its a bit better since HD came around. Baseball is getting a tad tedious only because these friggin pre madonna pitchers have to walk around the mound between every pitch AND the umpires won't call strikes.</P>


If they could get the games back under 3 hours it would improve things tremendously.</P>


Regardless, the love affair between the Boston Red Sox and their fans is more powerful than any flaws in the way the game is currently played.</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 12:58 PM
With every pitch, 1000 decisions are being made. Its the subtle aspects of baseball that makes it a great game.</p>


You youngins drive me friggin nuts!</p>YAAAWWWWWNNNN

There are 1000's of decisions going on in hockey as well.

The only thing that makes baseball a great game is the tradition instilled in the game and playing it is quite fun. I was at a Yankee playoff game last season and yea it was fun, but it was NOTHING like a playoff game at the Garden

...I guess to each his own, too bad Matt will never let it die

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 12:59 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<u>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</u>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<u>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</u>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 01:00 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 01:02 PM
With every pitch, 1000 decisions are being made. Its the subtle aspects of baseball that makes it a great game.</p>


You youngins drive me friggin nuts!</p>YAAAWWWWWNNNN

There are 1000's of decisions going on in hockey as well.

The only thing that makes baseball a great game is the tradition instilled in the game and playing it is quite fun. I was at a Yankee playoff game last season and yea it was fun, but it was NOTHING like a playoff game at the Garden

...I guess to each his own, too bad Matt will never let it die

to each their own is right

but the numbers speak for itself.

and i dind't bring it up - somebody else did...

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 01:05 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<u>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</u>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<u>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</u>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
I don't know much about hockey other than that run the Rangers made in @94 for the cup. I remember my dad telling me about this dude jockomo from the Bruins who used to catch pucks in his face. The story went that his face was like roast beef. I was just a kid. I never researched it, did such a guy exist?

Morehead State
02-15-2012, 01:05 PM
With every pitch, 1000 decisions are being made. Its the subtle aspects of baseball that makes it a great game.</P>


You youngins drive me friggin nuts!</P>


YAAAWWWWWNNNN

There are 1000's of decisions going on in hockey as well.

The only thing that makes baseball a great game is the tradition instilled in the game and playing it is quite fun. I was at a Yankee playoff game last season and yea it was fun, but it was NOTHING like a playoff game at the Garden

...I guess to each his own, too bad Matt will never let it die
</P>


Those guys have taken too many pucks to the head to make any decisions. Spare me Kase.</P>


But ultimately we all like what we like.</P>


</P>


Although I admit that I am still bitter since my beloved Whalers left town.</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:05 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 01:06 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<u>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</u>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<u>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</u>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

<u>I mean general opinion is on my side with this.</u> As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
not necessarily, you opinion is that people dont watch hockey cause its boring. while i dont have anything to dispute that i dont think that entirely true. like i said the strike really killed the game and for some reason or another people just lost interest.

JPizzack
02-15-2012, 01:09 PM
Regardless, the love affair between the Boston Red Sox and their fans is more powerful than any flaws in the way the game is currently played.</P>


pointless comment....</P>

Morehead State
02-15-2012, 01:10 PM
Regardless, the love affair between the Boston Red Sox and their fans is more powerful than any flaws in the way the game is currently played.</P>


pointless comment....</P>


</P>


Oh there's a point baby!</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:12 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 01:13 PM
Regardless, the love affair between the Boston Red Sox and their fans is more powerful than any flaws in the way the game is currently played.</p>


pointless comment....</p>


</p>


Oh there's a point baby!</p>whats your take on valentine?

JPizzack
02-15-2012, 01:15 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results
</P>


well he's right about the no names think.
You take the stars of each sport....
You ask someoen who a Manning is...or who Derek Jeter is....or who Lebron James/Kobe Bryant are....

Thennnnnn ask them who Alex Ovechkin is.....</P>


"huh? a what??"

Hockey fans are in the minority man. and that's ok, you can just be among the hockey hipsters! =P
that way when ppl like me finally get into the NHL again, you can rag on us.
I used to play hockey, but i dont have much interest in it anymore.</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:15 PM
With every pitch, 1000 decisions are being made. Its the subtle aspects of baseball that makes it a great game.</p>


You youngins drive me friggin nuts!</p>


YAAAWWWWWNNNN

There are 1000's of decisions going on in hockey as well.

The only thing that makes baseball a great game is the tradition instilled in the game and playing it is quite fun. I was at a Yankee playoff game last season and yea it was fun, but it was NOTHING like a playoff game at the Garden

...I guess to each his own, too bad Matt will never let it die
</p>


Those guys have taken too many pucks to the head to make any decisions. Spare me Kase.</p>


But ultimately we all like what we like.</p>


</p>


Although I admit that I am still bitter since my beloved Whalers left town.</p>Thats a BS statement pappy. Just cause you guys havent played a competitive level of puck doesnt mean that there arent TONS of intricacies going on constantly, its easy for the common fan to miss. You guys make it seem like everyone closes their eyes and just skates around aimlessly

You're not down with the Connecticut Whale??

byron
02-15-2012, 01:17 PM
lets get real here this way more exciting than watching baseball</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd9CxIlkjpk</P>


or this</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S_RvLHT2Lo</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:20 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results
</p>


well he's right about the no names think.
You take the stars of each sport....
You ask someoen who a Manning is...or who Derek Jeter is....or who Lebron James/Kobe Bryant are....

Thennnnnn ask them who Alex Ovechkin is.....</p>


"huh? a what??"

Hockey fans are in the minority man. and that's ok, you can just be among the hockey hipsters! =P
that way when ppl like me finally get into the NHL again, you can rag on us.
I used to play hockey, but i dont have much interest in it anymore.</p>I dont know who you're asking, maybe you gotta broaden your asking range

There's a huge contingent of hockey fans, ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!

Just because its not shown alot on ESPN doesnt mean it isnt followed, thats like saying because country music isnt on MTV doesnt mean it has no following

Sorry guys, Hockey aint goin NO WHERE!!!!

http://nyrnation.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/y-messier.jpg

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 01:20 PM
Regardless,* the love affair between the Boston Red Sox and their fans is more powerful than any flaws in the way the game is currently played.</p>


pointless comment....</p>


</p>


Oh there's a point baby!</p>whats your take on valentine?
Speaking of---Pizz did you every apologize to Dr. Hotness?

http://chztdwtease.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/c7780c9e-ab77-4299-8cbf-35bfef4733ac.jpg?w=500&h=333

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 01:21 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results
</p>


well he's right about the no names think.
You take the stars of each sport....
You ask someoen who a Manning is...or who Derek Jeter is....or who Lebron James/Kobe Bryant are....

Thennnnnn ask them who Alex Ovechkin is.....</p>


"huh? a what??"

Hockey fans are in the minority man. and that's ok, you can just be among the hockey <u>hipsters!</u> =P
that way when ppl like me finally get into the NHL again, you can rag on us.
I used to play hockey, but i dont have much interest in it anymore.</p>gross. were the hockey underground.

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:21 PM
lets get real here this way more exciting than watching baseball</p>


</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd9CxIlkjpk</p>


or this</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S_RvLHT2Lo</p>


</p>


</p>


</p>


</p>But in that 1st video the count was full and the pitcher stepped off the mound a bunch of times.... Oh wait that was just paint drying, LOL

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 01:22 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<u>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</u>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<u>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</u>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

<u>I mean general opinion is on my side with this.</u> As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
not necessarily, you opinion is that people dont watch hockey cause its boring. while i dont have anything to dispute that i dont think that entirely true. like i said the strike really killed the game and for some reason or another people just lost interest.


my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:22 PM
THEE Thread is BUMPING today!!!!

All you have to do is question the integrity of hockey and we get fired up

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 01:23 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results


i don't need to, the viewing audience does it for me

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 01:24 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.


actually - yes

that would be a good sign to see how beloved it all is through the country.

They can't even get a real TV contract.

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 01:25 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results
</p>


well he's right about the no names think.
You take the stars of each sport....
You ask someoen who a Manning is...or who Derek Jeter is....or who Lebron James/Kobe Bryant are....

Thennnnnn ask them who Alex Ovechkin is.....</p>


"huh? a what??"

Hockey fans are in the minority man. and that's ok, you can just be among the hockey hipsters! =P
that way when ppl like me finally get into the NHL again, you can rag on us.
I used to play hockey, but i dont have much interest in it anymore.</p>I dont know who you're asking, maybe you gotta broaden your asking range
<u>
There's a huge contingent of hockey fans, ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!</u>

Just because its not shown alot on ESPN doesnt mean it isnt followed, thats like saying because country music isnt on MTV doesnt mean it has no following

Sorry guys, Hockey aint goin NO WHERE!!!!

http://nyrnation.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/y-messier.jpg
this is true.

ny06
02-15-2012, 01:26 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<U>
its just hockey is gay...
</U>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<U>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</U> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<U>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</U>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<U>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</U>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

<U>I mean general opinion is on my side with this.</U> As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
not necessarily, you opinion is that people dont watch hockey cause its boring. while i dont have anything to dispute that i dont think that entirely true. like i said the strike really killed the game and for some reason or another people just lost interest.


my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. <FONT color=#0000ff>If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
</FONT></P>


The lockout in 04-05 put that sport in the back seat. </P>


There are two things that can kill a sport, fixed games and a lockout. </P>


</P>

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 01:26 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results
</p>


well he's right about the no names think.
You take the stars of each sport....
You ask someoen who a Manning is...or who Derek Jeter is....or who Lebron James/Kobe Bryant are....

Thennnnnn ask them who Alex Ovechkin is.....</p>


"huh? a what??"

Hockey fans are in the minority man. and that's ok, you can just be among the hockey hipsters! =P
that way when ppl like me finally get into the NHL again, you can rag on us.
I used to play hockey, but i dont have much interest in it anymore.</p>I dont know who you're asking, maybe you gotta broaden your asking range

There's a huge contingent of hockey fans, ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!

Just because its not shown alot on ESPN doesnt mean it isnt followed, thats like saying because country music isnt on MTV doesnt mean it has no following

Sorry guys, Hockey aint goin NO WHERE!!!!

http://nyrnation.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/y-messier.jpg


we know its not going anywhere. Its going to stay on that road less traveled as it has forever lol

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 01:27 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results
</p>


well he's right about the no names think.
You take the stars of each sport....
You ask someoen who a Manning is...or who Derek Jeter is....or who Lebron James/Kobe Bryant are....

Thennnnnn ask them who Alex Ovechkin is.....</p>


"huh? a what??"

Hockey fans are in the minority man. and that's ok, you can just be among the hockey <u>hipsters!</u> =P
that way when ppl like me finally get into the NHL again, you can rag on us.
I used to play hockey, but i dont have much interest in it anymore.</p>gross. were the hockey underground.


im a pretty big sports guy. I couldn't name ten players in the NHL

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 01:30 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<u>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</u>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<u>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</u>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

<u>I mean general opinion is on my side with this.</u> As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
not necessarily, you opinion is that people dont watch hockey cause its boring. while i dont have anything to dispute that i dont think that entirely true. like i said the strike really killed the game and for some reason or another people just lost interest.


my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. <font color="#0000ff">If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
</font></p>


The lockout in 04-05 put that sport in the back seat. </p>


There are two things that can kill a sport, fixed games and a lockout. </p>


</p>

thats actually untrue....

its empty threats by fans... but attendance and rating go up after almost every lockout/work stoppage.

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:30 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.


actually - yes

that would be a good sign to see how beloved it all is through the country.

They can't even get a real TV contract.
Im suprised your taste in music isnt all dubstep, bruno mars, rick ross, and whatever z100 tells you to like if you follow that theory that sales means its good

Im pretty sure their NBC contract is quite real, LOL

Heavy upswing sen, HEAVY UPSWING!!!!!

Just wait til you get struck with the Lund-Sanity!!!!

http://thescoresheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/henrik-lundqvist-21.jpg

http://adventuresinpucking.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/henrik-lundqvist2.jpg

JPizzack
02-15-2012, 01:31 PM
I dont know who you're asking, maybe you gotta broaden your asking range

There's a huge contingent of hockey fans, ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!

Just because its not shown alot on ESPN doesnt mean it isnt followed, thats like saying because country music isnt on MTV doesnt mean it has no following

Sorry guys, Hockey aint goin NO WHERE!!!!
</P>


well maybe youre blinded by your own love for it.
Sure there are a ton of fans....but nowhere near the amount of fans of any other sport (exception might be basketball nowadays)</P>


ask someone neutral like a parent who doesnt watch sports....

My mom doesnt watch sports, and i can almost guarantee she knows MVP-espque names of all sports except nhl lol</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:32 PM
im a pretty big sports guy. I couldn't name ten players in the NHL
Guess you're not a big sports guy

I could name 10 players from any of the big 4 sports no problem

ny06
02-15-2012, 01:34 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<U>
its just hockey is gay...
</U>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<U>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</U> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<U>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</U>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<U>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</U>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

<U>I mean general opinion is on my side with this.</U> As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
not necessarily, you opinion is that people dont watch hockey cause its boring. while i dont have anything to dispute that i dont think that entirely true. like i said the strike really killed the game and for some reason or another people just lost interest.


my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. <FONT color=#0000ff>If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
</FONT></P>


The lockout in 04-05 put that sport in the back seat. </P>


There are two things that can kill a sport, fixed games and a lockout. </P>


</P>




thats actually untrue....

its empty threats by fans... but attendance and rating go up after almost every lockout/work stoppage.
</P>


Check the attendance of hockey gamesbefore and after the lockout. (big difference)</P>


Also do any of the major networks show games of the NHL? </P>


</P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:36 PM
I dont know who you're asking, maybe you gotta broaden your asking range

There's a huge contingent of hockey fans, ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!

Just because its not shown alot on ESPN doesnt mean it isnt followed, thats like saying because country music isnt on MTV doesnt mean it has no following

Sorry guys, Hockey aint goin NO WHERE!!!!
</p>


well maybe youre blinded by your own love for it.
Sure there are a ton of fans....but nowhere near the amount of fans of any other sport (exception might be basketball nowadays)</p>


ask someone neutral like a parent who doesnt watch sports....

My mom doesnt watch sports, and i can almost guarantee she knows MVP-espque names of all sports except nhl lol</p>Im sure there are just as many hockey fans as basketball fans

<font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000">Oh yea, well MY mom can name a bunch of players, so that means hockey is #1 so [:P] LOL</font></font>

Morehead State
02-15-2012, 01:36 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<U>
its just hockey is gay...
</U>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<U>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</U> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<U>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</U>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<U>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</U>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

<U>I mean general opinion is on my side with this.</U> As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
not necessarily, you opinion is that people dont watch hockey cause its boring. while i dont have anything to dispute that i dont think that entirely true. like i said the strike really killed the game and for some reason or another people just lost interest.


my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
</P>


Well your point is (as usual) foolish.</P>


Soccer is the #1 sport in the world. So by your logic, its the most exciting sport in the world.</P>


Hockey is #4 for a lot of reasons. </P>


1. Not good on TV (can't see the friggin puck)</P>


2. Regional game not played in many emerging US markets</P>


3. Players have no teeth.</P>

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 01:36 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.


actually - yes

that would be a good sign to see how beloved it all is through the country.

They can't even get a real TV contract.
Im suprised your taste in music isnt all dubstep, bruno mars, rick ross, and whatever z100 tells you to like if you follow that theory that sales means its good

Im pretty sure their NBC contract is quite real, LOL

Heavy upswing sen, HEAVY UPSWING!!!!!

Just wait til you get struck with the Lund-Sanity!!!!

http://thescoresheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/henrik-lundqvist-21.jpg

http://adventuresinpucking.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/henrik-lundqvist2.jpg
40 saves for the shutout last night against the defending champs. 7th of the season. TOO EASY

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:37 PM
Check the attendance of hockey gamesbefore and after the lockout. (big difference)</p>


Also do any of the major networks show games of the NHL? </p>


</p>NBC shows games every weekend, as well as the Winter Classic, and the NHL Playoffs

Morehead State
02-15-2012, 01:40 PM
Check the attendance of hockey gamesbefore and after the lockout. (big difference)</P>


Also do any of the major networks show games of the NHL? </P>


</P>


NBC shows games every weekend, as well as the Winter Classic, and the NHL Playoffs


</P>


NHL playoffs are very exciting. A lot more than friggin hoops. </P>

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:41 PM
my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
In your mind maybe, but for a while it was above the NBA in TV viewership and attendance. That doesnt mean we were getting the best the NHL had to offer, its just how it lies. The 'bottom' of the big 4 will always a revolving door, dont kid yourself just cause you hate hockey

JPizzack
02-15-2012, 01:49 PM
ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!
</P>


The team that plays in NYC sells out?! </P>


http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/you-dont-say-rage-face.jpg</P>

byron
02-15-2012, 01:53 PM
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/photos/25-toothless-hockey-players

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 01:57 PM
ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!
</p>


The team that plays in NYC sells out?! </p>


http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/you-dont-say-rage-face.jpg</p>http://altrapoint.nextcity.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Middle-finger.jpg

LOL

dezzzR
02-15-2012, 02:02 PM
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/photos/25-toothless-hockey-playerslmao amy whinehouse

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:21 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.


actually - yes

that would be a good sign to see how beloved it all is through the country.

They can't even get a real TV contract.
Im suprised your taste in music isnt all dubstep, bruno mars, rick ross, and whatever z100 tells you to like if you follow that theory that sales means its good

Im pretty sure their NBC contract is quite real, LOL

Heavy upswing sen, HEAVY UPSWING!!!!!

Just wait til you get struck with the Lund-Sanity!!!!

http://thescoresheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/henrik-lundqvist-21.jpg

http://adventuresinpucking.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/henrik-lundqvist2.jpg


the fact that yuo know thats on Z100 tells me that you actually LISTEN to Z100

and I said a real TV contract. 1 game a week nationally televised = weak sauce

the upswing has died since Crosby has been down #sadbuttrue

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:22 PM
I dont know who you're asking, maybe you gotta broaden your asking range

There's a huge contingent of hockey fans, ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!

Just because its not shown alot on ESPN doesnt mean it isnt followed, thats like saying because country music isnt on MTV doesnt mean it has no following

Sorry guys, Hockey aint goin NO WHERE!!!!
</p>


<font size="6">well maybe youre blinded by your own love for it.</font> </p>


</p>

AND THE TRUTHHHHHHHHH</p>


</p>

SHALL SET YOU FREEEEEEEE
</p>

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:22 PM
im a pretty big sports guy. I couldn't name ten players in the NHL
Guess you're not a big sports guy

I could name 10 players from any of the big 4 sports no problem



that would be because everybody could name 10 players in the other 3 sports and u just happen to be a hockey guy

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:24 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<u>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</u>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<u>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</u>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

<u>I mean general opinion is on my side with this.</u> As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
not necessarily, you opinion is that people dont watch hockey cause its boring. while i dont have anything to dispute that i dont think that entirely true. like i said the strike really killed the game and for some reason or another people just lost interest.


my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. <font color="#0000ff">If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
</font></p>


The lockout in 04-05 put that sport in the back seat. </p>


There are two things that can kill a sport, fixed games and a lockout. </p>


</p>




thats actually untrue....

its empty threats by fans... but attendance and rating go up after almost every lockout/work stoppage.
</p>


Check the attendance of hockey gamesbefore and after the lockout. (big difference)</p>


Also do any of the major networks show games of the NHL? </p>


</p>

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2004

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2006

and ratings actually went up

NBC does like one game a week i think

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:28 PM
pay no mind to matt. hell jump on the ranger bandwagon once the playoffs start.

speaking of the rangers, great game last night. beat the defending champions. king quist had 40 saves and his 7th shut out of the season. 37-13. theyre playing amazing hockey.


i cheer for the rangers

i want them to win it all so i have more ammo to **** on Philly and Boston fans
<u>
its just hockey is gay...
</u>
But any advantage of **** talking i can get i'll take
why why why? its a fast paced, hard hitting game. And I dont want to hear about the skates!


its a boring game - i don't know how to word it any better

its obviously not just me, its always been the bottom of the big 4 sports.
OK, so you think BASEBALL is interesting and HOCKEY is the boring game!?!?!?

Discussion over, Im calling Bellevue Mental Institution and booking you a room ASAP!!!

<u>
baseball is more entertaining than hockey..</u> but i've always maintained that basbeall is pretty boring

your going to need alot of rooms there because most of american agrees with me...


come on . how can a fast paced game be more boring than baseball? and i love baseball. especially close games in hockey, every shot puts you on the edge of your seat, well me anyway


<u>something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?</u>

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?
<u>
man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.</u>
yea i would think so. it help the sport to be more exciting at least. arena football isnt big because its a bunch of no names that couldnt make it in the nfl. reminds me of the quote " why have a hamburger when you have prime rib."
a shoot out is just as exciting if not more, but that just my opinion.


hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

<u>I mean general opinion is on my side with this.</u> As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
not necessarily, you opinion is that people dont watch hockey cause its boring. while i dont have anything to dispute that i dont think that entirely true. like i said the strike really killed the game and for some reason or another people just lost interest.


my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
</p>


Well your point is (as usual) foolish.</p>


Soccer is the #1 sport in the world. So by your logic, its the most exciting sport in the world.</p>


Hockey is #4 for a lot of reasons. </p>


1. Not good on TV (can't see the friggin puck)</p>


2. Regional game not played in many emerging US markets</p>


3. Players have no teeth.</p>

we're talking in America

I don't care what Canada or Russia thinks - you commie

theres a reason these regional games: THERES NO MARKET FOR IT.

Hockey has brimmed the lime lite for a long time now - it doesn't have a high ceiling in this country

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:30 PM
my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
In your mind maybe, but for a while it was above the NBA in TV viewership and attendance. That doesnt mean we were getting the best the NHL had to offer, its just how it lies. The 'bottom' of the big 4 will always a revolving door, dont kid yourself just cause you hate hockey


in the dog years of the NBA while NHL was peaking

thats already diminished

im not kidding my self...

Hockey if lucky can hit 3, but has a safe average at 4

Im not speaking because I hate it, im speaking this way because its true.

Your defending it because YOU love it.

The sport itself isn't as entertaining to the country - theres no doubt about it

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 02:33 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.


actually - yes

that would be a good sign to see how beloved it all is through the country.

They can't even get a real TV contract.
Im suprised your taste in music isnt all dubstep, bruno mars, rick ross, and whatever z100 tells you to like if you follow that theory that sales means its good

Im pretty sure their NBC contract is quite real, LOL

Heavy upswing sen, HEAVY UPSWING!!!!!

Just wait til you get struck with the Lund-Sanity!!!!

http://thescoresheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/henrik-lundqvist-21.jpg

http://adventuresinpucking.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/henrik-lundqvist2.jpg


the fact that yuo know thats on Z100 tells me that you actually LISTEN to Z100

and I said a real TV contract. 1 game a week nationally televised = weak sauce

the upswing has died since Crosby has been down #sadbuttrue
LOL I said z100 cause its the most poppy station with all of the 'popular' music.

A network contract is a real contract, its similar to baseball, 1 game per week nationally televised, so weak contract??

You have nothing to prove that the upswing dies since crysby has been injured AGAIN, if anything the Rangers run has added fuel to the upswing

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 02:36 PM
my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
In your mind maybe, but for a while it was above the NBA in TV viewership and attendance. That doesnt mean we were getting the best the NHL had to offer, its just how it lies. The 'bottom' of the big 4 will always a revolving door, dont kid yourself just cause you hate hockey


in the dog years of the NBA while NHL was peaking

thats already diminished

im not kidding my self...

Hockey if lucky can hit 3, but has a safe average at 4

Im not speaking because I hate it, im speaking this way because its true.

Your defending it because YOU love it.

The sport itself isn't as entertaining to the country - theres no doubt about it
And the NBA was peaking in the dog years of the NHL

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmusic/haterade.gif

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 02:42 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)</a>

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:47 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 02:53 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:53 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.


actually - yes

that would be a good sign to see how beloved it all is through the country.

They can't even get a real TV contract.
Im suprised your taste in music isnt all dubstep, bruno mars, rick ross, and whatever z100 tells you to like if you follow that theory that sales means its good

Im pretty sure their NBC contract is quite real, LOL

Heavy upswing sen, HEAVY UPSWING!!!!!

Just wait til you get struck with the Lund-Sanity!!!!

http://thescoresheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/henrik-lundqvist-21.jpg

http://adventuresinpucking.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/henrik-lundqvist2.jpg


the fact that yuo know thats on Z100 tells me that you actually LISTEN to Z100

and I said a real TV contract. 1 game a week nationally televised = weak sauce

the upswing has died since Crosby has been down #sadbuttrue
LOL I said z100 cause its the most poppy station with all of the 'popular' music.

A network contract is a real contract, its similar to baseball, 1 game per week nationally televised, so weak contract??

You have nothing to prove that the upswing dies since crysby has been injured AGAIN, if anything the Rangers run has added fuel to the upswing


you &lt;3 Adele and you should just admit it

locally it has - not nationally.

As manson once said: "You can't see the forrest, from the trees. You can't smell the own **** on your knees"

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 02:54 PM
my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
In your mind maybe, but for a while it was above the NBA in TV viewership and attendance. That doesnt mean we were getting the best the NHL had to offer, its just how it lies. The 'bottom' of the big 4 will always a revolving door, dont kid yourself just cause you hate hockey


in the dog years of the NBA while NHL was peaking

thats already diminished

im not kidding my self...

Hockey if lucky can hit 3, but has a safe average at 4

Im not speaking because I hate it, im speaking this way because its true.

Your defending it because YOU love it.

The sport itself isn't as entertaining to the country - theres no doubt about it
And the NBA was peaking in the dog years of the NHL

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmusic/haterade.gif


when your dog years were for pretty much your whole existance - its not considered dog years

lttaylor56
02-15-2012, 02:56 PM
ESPECIALLY in the Tri-State, just look at the NY Rangers' attendance numbers, they've been sold out for decades!!!!
</p>


The team that plays in NYC sells out?! </p>


http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/you-dont-say-rage-face.jpg</p>http://altrapoint.nextcity.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Middle-finger.jpg

LOL
haha

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 03:01 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.


actually - yes

that would be a good sign to see how beloved it all is through the country.

They can't even get a real TV contract.
Im suprised your taste in music isnt all dubstep, bruno mars, rick ross, and whatever z100 tells you to like if you follow that theory that sales means its good

Im pretty sure their NBC contract is quite real, LOL

Heavy upswing sen, HEAVY UPSWING!!!!!

Just wait til you get struck with the Lund-Sanity!!!!

http://thescoresheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/henrik-lundqvist-21.jpg

http://adventuresinpucking.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/henrik-lundqvist2.jpg


the fact that yuo know thats on Z100 tells me that you actually LISTEN to Z100

and I said a real TV contract. 1 game a week nationally televised = weak sauce

the upswing has died since Crosby has been down #sadbuttrue
LOL I said z100 cause its the most poppy station with all of the 'popular' music.

A network contract is a real contract, its similar to baseball, 1 game per week nationally televised, so weak contract??

You have nothing to prove that the upswing dies since crysby has been injured AGAIN, if anything the Rangers run has added fuel to the upswing


you &lt;3 Adele and you should just admit it

locally it has - not nationally.

As manson once said: "You can't see the forrest, from the trees. You can't smell the own **** on your knees"
<font color="#FF0000">Hey man adele is from the heart, she's a lover!!!!</font>

I say nationally it def has

Just admit it, you hate hockey, i can accept it, just admit it

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 03:03 PM
my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
In your mind maybe, but for a while it was above the NBA in TV viewership and attendance. That doesnt mean we were getting the best the NHL had to offer, its just how it lies. The 'bottom' of the big 4 will always a revolving door, dont kid yourself just cause you hate hockey


in the dog years of the NBA while NHL was peaking

thats already diminished

im not kidding my self...

Hockey if lucky can hit 3, but has a safe average at 4

Im not speaking because I hate it, im speaking this way because its true.

Your defending it because YOU love it.

The sport itself isn't as entertaining to the country - theres no doubt about it
And the NBA was peaking in the dog years of the NHL

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmusic/haterade.gif


when your dog years were for pretty much your whole existance - its not considered dog years
OK now your blind hate is just getting straight up ridiculous

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 03:20 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 03:22 PM
something has to be fast paced to be more exciting?

you guys are trying to make an arguement thats already lossed.

Then how come Arena Football isn't big?

man on third, 2 outs, bottom of an inning at bat TRUMPS anything in hockey.
An argument thats already lossed, how so???

Arena football isnt big for the same reason that AHL, AAA Baseball, and Euro-League Baseketball isnt big, the amount of talent just isnt there. Its no question that Football is the biggest sport out there, but now you're reaching

Man on 3rd, 2 outs, bottom of an inning could take AGES for anything to happen..... BOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!! Only time that its remotely interesting is bottom of the 9th, tied score, full count, in the playoffs

Ill take a penalty shot with .01 left on the clock in the 3rd period over ANYTHING in baseball

Baseball is fun to play, but boring as shjt to watch, I wont even try to reason with you cause you're such a blindfolded HATER, at least Im objective with baseball you just blindly hate puck


the numbers, sales, and popularity speak for themselves.

Hockey doens't pull that kind of weight nationally- unless ur in canada

and not for nothing, since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped
So because #'s and sales are big means its good??

In that line of reasoning (that #'s and sales mean good product) communism would be good, rick ross would be 'talented', country music would be great, and CBS would be the only channel with decent programming

Id LOOOOOVE to hear your reasoning behind this beauty of a gem

" since the face of the NHL has been injured- popularity has dipped"

cause with the USA's biggest market's team KILLING it for months and another large market team (Detroit) breaking the record for most consecutive home wins Id say the NHLs popularity is on the HEAVY upswing.


actually - yes

that would be a good sign to see how beloved it all is through the country.

They can't even get a real TV contract.
Im suprised your taste in music isnt all dubstep, bruno mars, rick ross, and whatever z100 tells you to like if you follow that theory that sales means its good

Im pretty sure their NBC contract is quite real, LOL

Heavy upswing sen, HEAVY UPSWING!!!!!

Just wait til you get struck with the Lund-Sanity!!!!

http://thescoresheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/henrik-lundqvist-21.jpg

http://adventuresinpucking.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/henrik-lundqvist2.jpg


the fact that yuo know thats on Z100 tells me that you actually LISTEN to Z100

and I said a real TV contract. 1 game a week nationally televised = weak sauce

the upswing has died since Crosby has been down #sadbuttrue
LOL I said z100 cause its the most poppy station with all of the 'popular' music.

A network contract is a real contract, its similar to baseball, 1 game per week nationally televised, so weak contract??

You have nothing to prove that the upswing dies since crysby has been injured AGAIN, if anything the Rangers run has added fuel to the upswing


you &lt;3 Adele and you should just admit it

locally it has - not nationally.

As manson once said: "You can't see the forrest, from the trees. You can't smell the own **** on your knees"
<font color="#FF0000">Hey man adele is from the heart, she's a lover!!!!</font>

I say nationally it def has

Just admit it, you hate hockey, i can accept it, just admit it


I dont hate Hockey, I just don't care about it.

I hate glee

but i am completely subjective - do u really think anybody in Ohio gives a **** about the rangers? I dont

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 03:23 PM
my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
In your mind maybe, but for a while it was above the NBA in TV viewership and attendance. That doesnt mean we were getting the best the NHL had to offer, its just how it lies. The 'bottom' of the big 4 will always a revolving door, dont kid yourself just cause you hate hockey


in the dog years of the NBA while NHL was peaking

thats already diminished

im not kidding my self...

Hockey if lucky can hit 3, but has a safe average at 4

Im not speaking because I hate it, im speaking this way because its true.

Your defending it because YOU love it.

The sport itself isn't as entertaining to the country - theres no doubt about it
And the NBA was peaking in the dog years of the NHL

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmusic/haterade.gif


when your dog years were for pretty much your whole existance - its not considered dog years
OK now your blind hate is just getting straight up ridiculous


dude its no where near as popular as u suggest...

its time to be okay with that [{]

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 03:25 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.
How so??

The NHL has 12 teams that sold out EVERY SINGLE one of their games, the NBA had 6

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 03:26 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.
How so??

The NHL has 12 teams that sold out EVERY SINGLE one of their games, the NBA had 6


because your going by the total draw of each team. NBA teams combined drew more than NHL teams did combined...

AND if your going to go by sellouts - don't pick and choose just home games select OVERALL sellouts

EDIT: NBA has a higher total number of fans each night then a significant difference in TV ratings that can't be overlooked

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 03:27 PM
my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
In your mind maybe, but for a while it was above the NBA in TV viewership and attendance. That doesnt mean we were getting the best the NHL had to offer, its just how it lies. The 'bottom' of the big 4 will always a revolving door, dont kid yourself just cause you hate hockey


in the dog years of the NBA while NHL was peaking

thats already diminished

im not kidding my self...

Hockey if lucky can hit 3, but has a safe average at 4

Im not speaking because I hate it, im speaking this way because its true.

Your defending it because YOU love it.

The sport itself isn't as entertaining to the country - theres no doubt about it
And the NBA was peaking in the dog years of the NHL

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmusic/haterade.gif


when your dog years were for pretty much your whole existance - its not considered dog years
OK now your blind hate is just getting straight up ridiculous


dude its no where near as popular as u suggest...

its time to be okay with that [{]
Its no where near as unpopular as you keep suggesting, you can admit it, ill accept you with open arms, LOL

[}]

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 03:42 PM
my argument is that hockey isn't entertaining in comparison to other sports. If it was, it wouldn't be at hte bottom of the big 4
In your mind maybe, but for a while it was above the NBA in TV viewership and attendance. That doesnt mean we were getting the best the NHL had to offer, its just how it lies. The 'bottom' of the big 4 will always a revolving door, dont kid yourself just cause you hate hockey


in the dog years of the NBA while NHL was peaking

thats already diminished

im not kidding my self...

Hockey if lucky can hit 3, but has a safe average at 4

Im not speaking because I hate it, im speaking this way because its true.

Your defending it because YOU love it.

The sport itself isn't as entertaining to the country - theres no doubt about it
And the NBA was peaking in the dog years of the NHL

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/rftmusic/haterade.gif


when your dog years were for pretty much your whole existance - its not considered dog years
OK now your blind hate is just getting straight up ridiculous


dude its no where near as popular as u suggest...

its time to be okay with that [{]
Its no where near as unpopular as you keep suggesting, you can admit it, ill accept you with open arms, LOL

[}]


TV Ratings and total amount of people to the game speaks for itself.

Also the fact that so many teams sell out at home and not on the road just further proves the point how its not a nationally accepted game.



3-1 in a finals series on Ratings. THATS HUUUGE

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 03:45 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:11 PM
TV Ratings and total amount of people to the game speaks for itself.

Also the fact that so many teams sell out at home and not on the road just further proves the point how its not a nationally accepted game.



3-1 in a finals series on Ratings. THATS HUUUGE


Do you even know what your argument is??? You keep changing it so often its dizzying.

1st it was boring, then it had no fans, then it had no tv contract, then it had no momentum once crosby was gone, then it had no tv ratings, and now it has no road following??

I think you just like arguing AGAINST hockey

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:13 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy

bigblue4417
02-15-2012, 04:14 PM
hate to break it to you, but hockey is bunch of no names as well

I mean general opinion is on my side with this. As much as u guys try and say im crazy - im in the overwelming majority
To the uneducated fairweather sports fan that follows The Yankees to watch Jeter it just may seem that hockey is a bunch of no names...... LOL [;)]

Well when you poll the country asking what is more 'boring' hockey or baseball, let me know the results
</p>


well he's right about the no names think.
You take the stars of each sport....
You ask someoen who a Manning is...or who Derek Jeter is....or who Lebron James/Kobe Bryant are....

Thennnnnn ask them who Alex Ovechkin is.....</p>


"huh? a what??"

Hockey fans are in the minority man. and that's ok, you can just be among the hockey <u>hipsters!</u> =P
that way when ppl like me finally get into the NHL again, you can rag on us.
I used to play hockey, but i dont have much interest in it anymore.</p>gross. were the hockey underground.


im a pretty big sports guy. I couldn't name ten players in the NHL

I am just as big a fan as you are and I know I couldn't. Sorry Kase but Matt is right for sure.

GO RANGERS!

bigblue4417
02-15-2012, 04:20 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.
How so??

The NHL has 12 teams that sold out EVERY SINGLE one of their games, the NBA had 6

How many of the 12 were in Canada?

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:24 PM
TV Ratings and total amount of people to the game speaks for itself.

Also the fact that so many teams sell out at home and not on the road just further proves the point how its not a nationally accepted game.



3-1 in a finals series on Ratings. THATS HUUUGE


Do you even know what your argument is??? You keep changing it so often its dizzying.

1st it was boring, then it had no fans, then it had no tv contract, then it had no momentum once crosby was gone, then it had no tv ratings, and now it has no road following??

I think you just like arguing AGAINST hockey


No YOU changed it.

I said its a boring sport and the numbers prove it.

You quoted the numbers and made a point that they sell out...

It is still apart of the big 4... but the TV ratings blow.

Go look at 08-09's numbers, significant drop since then.

You then said that they outsell the NBA and quoted a percentage, but the hard numbers tell you thats not true.

Do you know what your arguing anymore because I've just responded to YOUR points?

bigblue4417
02-15-2012, 04:24 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy

You do love hockey alot Kase and we all appreciate that but your love won't let you see the other side of the argument.

Personally I would rather watch baseball than hockey and I hate baseball. I watched the Olympic hockey when we played Canada and that was awesome. I will also watch the Rangers to support my boy Kase. Maybe I would watch some playoff hockey but I doubt it. Never have before.

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:29 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:30 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.
How so??

The NHL has 12 teams that sold out EVERY SINGLE one of their games, the NBA had 6

How many of the 12 were in Canada?


lol i didn' teven factor that in...

take out canadian teams and not only does NHL's numbers drop but NBA's numbers rise

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:35 PM
TV Ratings and total amount of people to the game speaks for itself.

Also the fact that so many teams sell out at home and not on the road just further proves the point how its not a nationally accepted game.



3-1 in a finals series on Ratings. THATS HUUUGE


Do you even know what your argument is??? You keep changing it so often its dizzying.

1st it was boring, then it had no fans, then it had no tv contract, then it had no momentum once crosby was gone, then it had no tv ratings, and now it has no road following??

I think you just like arguing AGAINST hockey


No YOU changed it.

I said its a boring sport and the numbers prove it.

You quoted the numbers and made a point that they sell out...

It is still apart of the big 4... but the TV ratings blow.

Go look at 08-09's numbers, significant drop since then.

You then said that they outsell the NBA and quoted a percentage, but the hard numbers tell you thats not true.

Do you know what your arguing anymore because I've just responded to YOUR points?


LOL, well now we're just gonna go back and forth arent we...

You said the numbers prove that its 'boring' and I proved you wrong

The numbers HAVENT dropped 'significantly' the NHL has remained consistent with 12 teams that sell out EVERY HOME GAME, and the NBA can BARELY manage a handful, thats what the 'hard numbers' tell me, but you'll twist that somehow, its all good

The points I keep arguing are the ones that you keep changing on me, everytime I make a point you change the argument

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:39 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:41 PM
TV Ratings and total amount of people to the game speaks for itself.

Also the fact that so many teams sell out at home and not on the road just further proves the point how its not a nationally accepted game.



3-1 in a finals series on Ratings. THATS HUUUGE


Do you even know what your argument is??? You keep changing it so often its dizzying.

1st it was boring, then it had no fans, then it had no tv contract, then it had no momentum once crosby was gone, then it had no tv ratings, and now it has no road following??

I think you just like arguing AGAINST hockey


No YOU changed it.

I said its a boring sport and the numbers prove it.

You quoted the numbers and made a point that they sell out...

It is still apart of the big 4... but the TV ratings blow.

Go look at 08-09's numbers, significant drop since then.

You then said that they outsell the NBA and quoted a percentage, but the hard numbers tell you thats not true.

Do you know what your arguing anymore because I've just responded to YOUR points?


LOL, well now we're just gonna go back and forth arent we...

You said the numbers prove that its 'boring' and I proved you wrong

The numbers HAVENT dropped 'significantly' the NHL has remained consistent with 12 teams that sell out EVERY HOME GAME, and the NBA can BARELY manage a handful, thats what the 'hard numbers' tell me, but you'll twist that somehow, its all good

The points I keep arguing are the ones that you keep changing on me, everytime I make a point you change the argument


the national TV numbers prove that america isn't interested in it- hence its boring

Stop looking at just home games and look at OVERALL NUMBERS. OVERALL NUMBERS show the truth.

I never denied there weren't some hockey towns, this argument is baout the national level of the league. And American doesn't really give a **** about hockey

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:41 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.
How so??

The NHL has 12 teams that sold out EVERY SINGLE one of their games, the NBA had 6

How many of the 12 were in Canada?


lol i didn' teven factor that in...

take out canadian teams and not only does NHL's numbers drop but NBA's numbers rise
Take out the Canadian teams and the NHL STILL has more teams that consistently sell out EVERY HOME GAME, so suck it, LOL

But you cant do that since both leagues have teams in Canada, so suck it again, LOL

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:44 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring

bigblue4417
02-15-2012, 04:44 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.
How so??

The NHL has 12 teams that sold out EVERY SINGLE one of their games, the NBA had 6

How many of the 12 were in Canada?


lol i didn' teven factor that in...

take out canadian teams and not only does NHL's numbers drop but NBA's numbers rise
Take out the Canadian teams and the NHL STILL has more teams that consistently sell out EVERY HOME GAME, so suck it, LOL

But you cant do that since both leagues have teams in Canada, so suck it again, LOL

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1161/1468981525_36733fbdfe.jpg

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:45 PM
TV Ratings and total amount of people to the game speaks for itself.

Also the fact that so many teams sell out at home and not on the road just further proves the point how its not a nationally accepted game.



3-1 in a finals series on Ratings. THATS HUUUGE


Do you even know what your argument is??? You keep changing it so often its dizzying.

1st it was boring, then it had no fans, then it had no tv contract, then it had no momentum once crosby was gone, then it had no tv ratings, and now it has no road following??

I think you just like arguing AGAINST hockey


No YOU changed it.

I said its a boring sport and the numbers prove it.

You quoted the numbers and made a point that they sell out...

It is still apart of the big 4... but the TV ratings blow.

Go look at 08-09's numbers, significant drop since then.

You then said that they outsell the NBA and quoted a percentage, but the hard numbers tell you thats not true.

Do you know what your arguing anymore because I've just responded to YOUR points?


LOL, well now we're just gonna go back and forth arent we...

You said the numbers prove that its 'boring' and I proved you wrong

The numbers HAVENT dropped 'significantly' the NHL has remained consistent with 12 teams that sell out EVERY HOME GAME, and the NBA can BARELY manage a handful, thats what the 'hard numbers' tell me, but you'll twist that somehow, its all good

The points I keep arguing are the ones that you keep changing on me, everytime I make a point you change the argument


the national TV numbers prove that america isn't interested in it- hence its boring

Stop looking at just home games and look at OVERALL NUMBERS. OVERALL NUMBERS show the truth.

I never denied there weren't some hockey towns, this argument is baout the national level of the league. And American doesn't really give a **** about hockey
National numbers prove that it isnt marketed correctly, see I can twist things in my point of view as well

If America didnt care about hockey then there wouldnt even be a handful of towns that consistently sold out every one of their teams hockey games

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:49 PM
bottom line: America thinks Hockey is aboring game just like I do...

It isn't even in the same ball park as the other leagues...

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:49 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:50 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.
How so??

The NHL has 12 teams that sold out EVERY SINGLE one of their games, the NBA had 6

How many of the 12 were in Canada?


lol i didn' teven factor that in...

take out canadian teams and not only does NHL's numbers drop but NBA's numbers rise
Take out the Canadian teams and the NHL STILL has more teams that consistently sell out EVERY HOME GAME, so suck it, LOL

But you cant do that since both leagues have teams in Canada, so suck it again, LOL
]
yea u can mr. averages

go take averages of draws in america...

or how bout the fact that not only does NBA average more people per game, but they also can have 4 more american franchises

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:51 PM
bottom line: America thinks Hockey is aboring game just like I do...

It isn't even in the same ball park as the other leagues...


Uh oh Matt is wrapping up his argument, must mean its time to clock out, LOL

Bottom line is that you're a hater and your blind hate for the NHL is DISGUSTING, at least I give the NBA a shot while you're refusing to give hockey a chance

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:53 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point


andddd they also have smaller capacity stadiums

hence why your averages are weak and having one more "HOCKEY TOWN" doesn't equate to anything when your talking on a national level.

MattMeyerBud
02-15-2012, 04:54 PM
bottom line: America thinks Hockey is aboring game just like I do...

It isn't even in the same ball park as the other leagues...


Uh oh Matt is wrapping up his argument, must mean its time to clock out, LOL

Bottom line is that you're a hater and your blind hate for the NHL is DISGUSTING, at least I give the NBA a shot while you're refusing to give hockey a chance


lol 7 minutes til punch

u wish i was a hater, i don't care enough to be a hater

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 04:55 PM
2010-2011NBA Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct">
</a>2010-2011 NHL Attendance (http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/homePct)

Judging by the fact that the NBA had 6 teams that sold out every game and the NHL LITERALLY had double that with 12 teams, id have to say that hockey was more of the fan favorite


http://fangsbites.com/2011/06/nba-finals-game-6-sets-ratings-record-for-abc/



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/boston-bruins-stanley-cup-win-sets-ratings-records-211228847.html


/fin
Fin dis****, LOL

NBA has TV ratings, NHL has ACTUAL attendance

Take that as NBA fans really dont care about their team they just barely follow them, NHL fans are dedicated and show support in person and thats what matters....LOL


actually by the numbers u gave me, NBA has a slight advantage attendance wise and a MAJOR advantage TV wise.
How so??

The NHL has 12 teams that sold out EVERY SINGLE one of their games, the NBA had 6

How many of the 12 were in Canada?


lol i didn' teven factor that in...

take out canadian teams and not only does NHL's numbers drop but NBA's numbers rise
Take out the Canadian teams and the NHL STILL has more teams that consistently sell out EVERY HOME GAME, so suck it, LOL

But you cant do that since both leagues have teams in Canada, so suck it again, LOL
]
yea u can mr. averages

go take averages of draws in america...

or how bout the fact that not only does NBA average more people per game, but they also can have 4 more american franchises
4 more franchises that cant sell out games at home

up top!!!!
http://www.westcoastshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/barney-stinson-suit-up.jpg

Kase-1
02-15-2012, 05:02 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point


andddd they also have smaller capacity stadiums

hence why your averages are weak and having one more "HOCKEY TOWN" doesn't equate to anything when your talking on a national level.


Annnnnnddd they also sell out at double the amount of cities.

Boom Roasted

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7b8s0YQev1qzugii.jpg

lttaylor56
02-16-2012, 09:41 AM
Good Morning!

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 10:13 AM
Just read from 'Giants 101' on FB that Antrel 'Where Trel At' Rolle will be on Joe &amp; Evan on WFAN from 11-noon

dezzzR
02-16-2012, 11:27 AM
http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/siphotos/15569592674/1/tumblr_lxjhj8nrvX1qm9ryp
lol this was probably my favorite play from the playoffs. sick seeing him dart past 5 guys. what was your favorite play?

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 11:41 AM
lol whattup ****tards.

Glad to see the hockey argument went on for 6 pages yesterday lmao</P>


for the record. I do like hockey, i really do...
but my interest has fallen off significantly ever since i graduated high school.
If you asked me last year which i rather watch, NBA, vs NHL...i would have said nhl...but now with the Knicks and Nets makin moves for the future, it's pulled me back in.
I still got love for the Rangers though!</P>

lttaylor56
02-16-2012, 11:52 AM
http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/siphotos/15569592674/1/tumblr_lxjhj8nrvX1qm9ryp
lol this was probably my favorite play from the playoffs. sick seeing him dart past 5 guys. what was your favorite play?
Offense is offense, I enjoy it don't get me wrong, but I love when Defense make a huge play. The 2 4th down stops were freaking awesome. JPP, Tuck, Osi, kiwi, philips.....lovin it.

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:05 PM
lol whattup ****tards.

Glad to see the hockey argument went on for 6 pages yesterday lmao</p>


for the record. I do like hockey, i really do...
but my interest has fallen off significantly ever since i graduated high school.
If you asked me last year which i rather watch, NBA, vs NHL...i would have said nhl...but now with the Knicks and Nets makin moves for the future, it's pulled me back in.
I still got love for the Rangers though!</p>You can thank me and Matt for making everyone's day FLY by yesterday, LOL

LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:07 PM
http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/siphotos/15569592674/1/tumblr_lxjhj8nrvX1qm9ryp
lol this was probably my favorite play from the playoffs. sick seeing him dart past 5 guys. what was your favorite play?
Too many plays to name, but my favorite underrated play was Weatherfords 1st punt against the Pats where he was jumping and screaming like a MAD MAN after pinning them inside their 15. It got all of us at the bar going INSANE!!!!

I never thought that we'd have such a wildman as our Punter, its GREAT!!!

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:11 PM
lol whattup ****tards.
</p>Hope you like your weeklong ban!!!!!


LMAO, jk

I love how we get a free pass about language in THEE Thread

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 12:18 PM
lol whattup ****tards.
</P>


Hope you like your weeklong ban!!!!!


LMAO, jk

I love how we get a free pass about language in THEE Thread
</P>


i dont intentionally avoid the filter...i just type what i want, and sometimes it doesnt catch things. /shrug
not my problem! lol</P>

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 12:21 PM
LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??
</P>


Dude, Nets are going to be the next big thing. Even if it takes them a few years to get on their feet talent-wise...the move to BK, and with the amount of "hype men" giving them exposure....
Sounds corny, but Jay-Z gives the team a little bit of life that they've lacked. And gives the team just a liiiiittle bit more influence when it comes to signing new players, imo...
might not work out, but never know...</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:21 PM
LMAO, my guiltiest movie pleasure just started

Sah, dah TAY!!!!!

http://www.erotskeslike.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/pootie-tang.jpg

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:24 PM
LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??
</p>


Dude, Nets are going to be the next big thing. Even if it takes them a few years to get on their feet talent-wise...the move to BK, and with the amount of "hype men" giving them exposure....
Sounds corny, but Jay-Z gives the team a little bit of life that they've lacked. And gives the team just a liiiiittle bit more influence when it comes to signing new players, imo...
might not work out, but never know...</p>LOL, the Nets may get some attention, but they're NEVER gonna over take the Knicks as the #1 basketball team in town. The Mets, Islanders, Devils, and even Jets had years where they were the 'hot item in town' but they never overtook the Yanks, Rangers, and Giants as the #1 teams in their sports in the Tri-State Area

They will have the hype and such next season when they play their 1st season in BK, but soon enough everyone will realize they're the same ol NJ Nets they just play in Downtown BK

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 12:27 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point


andddd they also have smaller capacity stadiums

hence why your averages are weak and having one more "HOCKEY TOWN" doesn't equate to anything when your talking on a national level.


Annnnnnddd they also sell out at double the amount of cities.

Boom Roasted

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7b8s0YQev1qzugii.jpg


and only in those cities in which half are canadian countries and really doesn't matter in this arguement.

if u want me to say that hockey is bigger in canada than nba is in america... i'd concur

make this stop kase, its almost like a jet/mets fan saying they run NY

http://lebronwrestling.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/arod-cigar1.jpg

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 12:29 PM
lol whattup ****tards.

Glad to see the hockey argument went on for 6 pages yesterday lmao</p>


for the record. I do like hockey, i really do...
but my interest has fallen off significantly ever since i graduated high school.
If you asked me last year which i rather watch, NBA, vs NHL...i would have said nhl...but now with the Knicks and Nets makin moves for the future, it's pulled me back in.
I still got love for the Rangers though!</p>You can thank me and Matt for making everyone's day FLY by yesterday, LOL

LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??


The nets are gearing up for the move to Brooklyn though. I agree that in NJ they are VERY comparable to the Islanders (except they've actually had some success in the past 20 years)

But the move to brooklyn and getting Howard will out trump anything in hockey

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 12:30 PM
LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??
</p>


Dude, Nets are going to be the next big thing. Even if it takes them a few years to get on their feet talent-wise...the move to BK, and with the amount of "hype men" giving them exposure....
Sounds corny, but Jay-Z gives the team a little bit of life that they've lacked. And gives the team just a liiiiittle bit more influence when it comes to signing new players, imo...
might not work out, but never know...</p>

na - if they get Howard they will be the story. If they don't, then they won't

i am so surprised to hear that the Nets are still on top of their list

that crazy Russian must have a seperate bank account for DHow all ready in Mosgow

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 12:31 PM
LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??
</p>


Dude, Nets are going to be the next big thing. Even if it takes them a few years to get on their feet talent-wise...the move to BK, and with the amount of "hype men" giving them exposure....
Sounds corny, but Jay-Z gives the team a little bit of life that they've lacked. And gives the team just a liiiiittle bit more influence when it comes to signing new players, imo...
might not work out, but never know...</p>LOL, the Nets may get some attention, but they're NEVER gonna over take the Knicks as the #1 basketball team in town. The Mets, Islanders, Devils, and even Jets had years where they were the 'hot item in town' but they never overtook the Yanks, Rangers, and Giants as the #1 teams in their sports in the Tri-State Area

They will have the hype and such next season when they play their 1st season in BK, but soon enough everyone will realize they're the same ol NJ Nets they just play in Downtown BK


na your crazy... you takl about hockey towns - Brooklyn is THEE basketball town. They will need Howard to give it any real significance though.

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:35 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point


andddd they also have smaller capacity stadiums

hence why your averages are weak and having one more "HOCKEY TOWN" doesn't equate to anything when your talking on a national level.


Annnnnnddd they also sell out at double the amount of cities.

Boom Roasted

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7b8s0YQev1qzugii.jpg


and only in those cities in which half are canadian countries and really doesn't matter in this arguement.

if u want me to say that hockey is bigger in canada than nba is in america... i'd concur

make this stop kase, its almost like a jet/mets fan saying they run NY

http://lebronwrestling.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/arod-cigar1.jpg
I thought it was over til you re-ignited the fire today, so thats on you homeboy

They still sell out more American cities than the NBA does

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:38 PM
LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??
</p>


Dude, Nets are going to be the next big thing. Even if it takes them a few years to get on their feet talent-wise...the move to BK, and with the amount of "hype men" giving them exposure....
Sounds corny, but Jay-Z gives the team a little bit of life that they've lacked. And gives the team just a liiiiittle bit more influence when it comes to signing new players, imo...
might not work out, but never know...</p>

na - if they get Howard they will be the story. If they don't, then they won't

i am so surprised to hear that the Nets are still on top of their list

that crazy Russian must have a seperate bank account for DHow all ready in Mosgow
Yea the Nets will be the story for a year or so, like I said before it happened to the most pitiful franchises in Tri-State history, but after that initial shock year its back to normal

Hey the Mets and Jets, even the Islanders had some big signings in their time but in the long run they still played 2nd or in some cases 3rd fiddle

The Nets will NEVER overtake the Knicks as the #1 hoops team in town

ny06
02-16-2012, 12:38 PM
LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??
</P>


Dude, <FONT color=#0000ff>Nets are going to be the next big thing</FONT>. Even if it takes them a few years to get on their feet talent-wise...the move to BK, and with the amount of "hype men" giving them exposure....
Sounds corny, but Jay-Z gives the team a little bit of life that they've lacked. And gives the team just a liiiiittle bit more influence when it comes to signing new players, imo...
might not work out, but never know...</P>


</P>


That made me laugh. </P>


No offense to Net fans, but moving to Brooklyn and having some Russian and Jay Z as your owners is not turning that franchise into a "big thing"</P>


The Knicks will always be the main show in NY. </P>


Take the N away from Nets and you have the Mets of basketball...</P>


</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:40 PM
LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??
</p>


Dude, Nets are going to be the next big thing. Even if it takes them a few years to get on their feet talent-wise...the move to BK, and with the amount of "hype men" giving them exposure....
Sounds corny, but Jay-Z gives the team a little bit of life that they've lacked. And gives the team just a liiiiittle bit more influence when it comes to signing new players, imo...
might not work out, but never know...</p>LOL, the Nets may get some attention, but they're NEVER gonna over take the Knicks as the #1 basketball team in town. The Mets, Islanders, Devils, and even Jets had years where they were the 'hot item in town' but they never overtook the Yanks, Rangers, and Giants as the #1 teams in their sports in the Tri-State Area

They will have the hype and such next season when they play their 1st season in BK, but soon enough everyone will realize they're the same ol NJ Nets they just play in Downtown BK


na your crazy... you takl about hockey towns - Brooklyn is THEE basketball town. They will need Howard to give it any real significance though.
BK is part of THEE biggest Basketball town in the WORLD, what's your point??

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 12:42 PM
LOL, you just mentioned the 'Nets'.... You mean the Islanders of the NBA??

Whats the big debate for today, me and dezz vs Pappy on the Hip Hop vs Rock debate??
</p>


Dude, <font color="#0000ff">Nets are going to be the next big thing</font>. Even if it takes them a few years to get on their feet talent-wise...the move to BK, and with the amount of "hype men" giving them exposure....
Sounds corny, but Jay-Z gives the team a little bit of life that they've lacked. And gives the team just a liiiiittle bit more influence when it comes to signing new players, imo...
might not work out, but never know...</p>


</p>


That made me laugh. </p>


No offense to Net fans, but moving to Brooklyn and having some Russian and Jay Z as your owners is not turning that franchise into a "big thing"</p>


The Knicks will always be the main show in NY. </p>


Take the N away from Nets and you have the Mets of basketball...</p>


</p>or the Jets of basketball

....Trying to be the big thing in town, and it may last for a year or 2, but this IS and always will be a GIANTS, oh I mean KNICKS TOWN!!!!

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 12:55 PM
Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 01:02 PM
Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 01:11 PM
just paid for my Vegas trip.

$670 for flight, and 4 nights/5 days in Mandalay Bay resort/casino.

my friends are desperately trying to make do the exotic car racing....its like $400 to drive 5 laps around a legit track in a Ferrari 458...which is like my dream car. but that's a pretty steep price =\
Idk...maybe i'll do it.
I rather just drop a few hundred and get a baller *** car for the entire time im there.

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:12 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point


andddd they also have smaller capacity stadiums

hence why your averages are weak and having one more "HOCKEY TOWN" doesn't equate to anything when your talking on a national level.


Annnnnnddd they also sell out at double the amount of cities.

Boom Roasted

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7b8s0YQev1qzugii.jpg


and only in those cities in which half are canadian countries and really doesn't matter in this arguement.

if u want me to say that hockey is bigger in canada than nba is in america... i'd concur

make this stop kase, its almost like a jet/mets fan saying they run NY

http://lebronwrestling.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/arod-cigar1.jpg
I thought it was over til you re-ignited the fire today, so thats on you homeboy

They still sell out more American cities than the NBA does


i'm going on a stand up comedy tour...

venue only holds 5 people in each venue

im going to have more sellouts than NHL and NBA combined

I'm going to call you Rex right now whenever you pick this argument up

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:13 PM
just paid for my Vegas trip.

$670 for flight, and 4 nights/5 days in Mandalay Bay resort/casino.

my friends are desperately trying to make do the exotic car racing....its like $400 to drive 5 laps around a legit track in a Ferrari 458...which is like my dream car. but that's a pretty steep price =\
Idk...maybe i'll do it.
I rather just drop a few hundred and get a baller *** car for the entire time im there.

.... or a hooker

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:14 PM
Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets


Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 01:20 PM
just paid for my Vegas trip.

$670 for flight, and 4 nights/5 days in Mandalay Bay resort/casino.

my friends are desperately trying to make do the exotic car racing....its like $400 to drive 5 laps around a legit track in a Ferrari 458...which is like my dream car. but that's a pretty steep price =\
Idk...maybe i'll do it.
I rather just drop a few hundred and get a baller *** car for the entire time im there.

.... or a hooker
</P>


Not my style....

as discussed on here before: Dezz and Daven, those guys are another story...</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 01:23 PM
just paid for my Vegas trip.

$670 for flight, and 4 nights/5 days in Mandalay Bay resort/casino.

my friends are desperately trying to make do the exotic car racing....its like $400 to drive 5 laps around a legit track in a Ferrari 458...which is like my dream car. but that's a pretty steep price =\
Idk...maybe i'll do it.
I rather just drop a few hundred and get a baller *** car for the entire time im there.Not a bad deal for the flight and hotel, where did you book it, kayak??

GUN RANGE, GUN RANGE, GUN RANGE!!!!!!
http://media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/dbimages/46411a

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 01:24 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point


andddd they also have smaller capacity stadiums

hence why your averages are weak and having one more "HOCKEY TOWN" doesn't equate to anything when your talking on a national level.


Annnnnnddd they also sell out at double the amount of cities.

Boom Roasted

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7b8s0YQev1qzugii.jpg


and only in those cities in which half are canadian countries and really doesn't matter in this arguement.

if u want me to say that hockey is bigger in canada than nba is in america... i'd concur

make this stop kase, its almost like a jet/mets fan saying they run NY

http://lebronwrestling.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/arod-cigar1.jpg
I thought it was over til you re-ignited the fire today, so thats on you homeboy

They still sell out more American cities than the NBA does


i'm going on a stand up comedy tour...

venue only holds 5 people in each venue

im going to have more sellouts than NHL and NBA combined

I'm going to call you Rex right now whenever you pick this argument up
Yea, cept NHL and NBA arenas hold a similar amount of people 16-20k, not 5, LOL

Id love to see the tour, when are you playing NY??

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 01:26 PM
Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets


Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)
Islanders DO have one of the worst fanbases by ANY standards, thats why theyve been trying to move the team and get a new stadium. There WAS a fanbase (15-20yrs ago) and they want to re-ignite the fanbase that once was there

The Nets never had a fanbase... Well cept for Sharick, he's the only Nets fan I know

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 01:30 PM
Not a bad deal for the flight and hotel, where did you book it, kayak??

GUN RANGE, GUN RANGE, GUN RANGE!!!!!!
</P>


we priced it through kayak, travelocity and expedia. And i think travelocity gave us the best price for identical booking. saved a couple buck each i think.
Could be wrong, my one buddy put the whole thing on a cc and we just paid him, so i forget.</P>


and yea, a few of my friends want to go to the gun range. i might give it a go. they are into that kind of stuff, me not so much. but i'll shoot some AKs and such!! lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:33 PM
smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy


your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can


no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point


andddd they also have smaller capacity stadiums

hence why your averages are weak and having one more "HOCKEY TOWN" doesn't equate to anything when your talking on a national level.


Annnnnnddd they also sell out at double the amount of cities.

Boom Roasted

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7b8s0YQev1qzugii.jpg


and only in those cities in which half are canadian countries and really doesn't matter in this arguement.

if u want me to say that hockey is bigger in canada than nba is in america... i'd concur

make this stop kase, its almost like a jet/mets fan saying they run NY

http://lebronwrestling.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/arod-cigar1.jpg
I thought it was over til you re-ignited the fire today, so thats on you homeboy

They still sell out more American cities than the NBA does


i'm going on a stand up comedy tour...

venue only holds 5 people in each venue

im going to have more sellouts than NHL and NBA combined

I'm going to call you Rex right now whenever you pick this argument up
Yea, cept NHL and NBA arenas hold a similar amount of people 16-20k, not 5, LOL

Id love to see the tour, when are you playing NY??


yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 01:40 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 01:41 PM
Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets


Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)
</P>


Until they become the new Hartford Whalers.</P>

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:45 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:45 PM
Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets


Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)
</p>


Until they become the new Hartford Whalers.</p>

in which people would care even less

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 01:47 PM
Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets


Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)
</P>


Until they become the new Hartford Whalers.</P>




in which people would care even less
</P>


You are going straight to hell for that comment.</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 01:48 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 01:52 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while <FONT color=#0000ff>NBA teams have better road followings
</FONT></P>


wouldnt this suggest that there are clearly MORE fans of MORE teams than anything the nhl can claim?
Look at someone like Lando. He lives in a small market, but is a fan of teams that play nowhere near him, in NY and LA. </P>

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:52 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:53 PM
Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets


Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)
</p>


Until they become the new Hartford Whalers.</p>




in which people would care even less
</p>


You are going straight to hell for that comment.</p>

thats not even going to make the resume for my ticket to hell

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:54 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while <font color="#0000ff">NBA teams have better road followings
</font></p>


wouldnt this suggest that there are clearly MORE fans of MORE teams than anything the nhl can claim?
Look at someone like Lando. He lives in a small market, but is a fan of teams that play nowhere near him, in NY and LA. </p>

don't let Rex get u all worked up

the TV ratings tell it all - he just is grasping

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 01:56 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 01:57 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while <font color="#0000ff">NBA teams have better road followings
</font></p>


wouldnt this suggest that there are clearly MORE fans of MORE teams than anything the nhl can claim?
Look at someone like Lando. He lives in a small market, but is a fan of teams that play nowhere near him, in NY and LA. </p>

don't let Rex get u all worked up

the TV ratings tell it all - he just is grasping
Rex???

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 01:58 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis



http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

the truth will set you free

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 01:59 PM
just paid for my Vegas trip.

$670 for flight, and 4 nights/5 days in Mandalay Bay resort/casino.

my friends are desperately trying to make do the exotic car racing....its like $400 to drive 5 laps around a legit track in a Ferrari 458...which is like my dream car. but that's a pretty steep price =\
Idk...maybe i'll do it.
I rather just drop a few hundred and get a baller *** car for the entire time im there.
This sure is a big change from the guy who didn't know if he would have money to go to a Giants game months in advance. Have fun man. Vegas is awesome.

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:03 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while <font color="#0000ff">NBA teams have better road followings
</font></p>


wouldnt this suggest that there are clearly MORE fans of MORE teams than anything the nhl can claim?
Look at someone like Lando. He lives in a small market, but is a fan of teams that play nowhere near him, in NY and LA. </p>

don't let Rex get u all worked up

the TV ratings tell it all - he just is grasping
Rex???

your the Rex Ryan of this debate

a little success and you think Hockey is nationally accepted

and you avoid all the truths and just try to hang on a minor jaded fact which really doesn't represent the debate at all, but still think u win because of it...

much like Rex Ryan thought he ran NY because his team lost in the AFCC twice...

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.3424087.1325549764!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_576/image.jpg

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:03 PM
just paid for my Vegas trip.

$670 for flight, and 4 nights/5 days in Mandalay Bay resort/casino.

my friends are desperately trying to make do the exotic car racing....its like $400 to drive 5 laps around a legit track in a Ferrari 458...which is like my dream car. but that's a pretty steep price =\
Idk...maybe i'll do it.
I rather just drop a few hundred and get a baller *** car for the entire time im there.
This sure is a big change from the guy who didn't know if he would have money to go to a Giants game months in advance. Have fun man. Vegas is awesome.


see what happens when u decide to start sucking a few ****s?

You get some pocket change

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 02:05 PM
Posting this....because i cant help but laugh hysterically every time i read it!! never gets old!!!
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Is that Berrian? I think he’s triple-covered. You know what? **** it. I’m throwing it downfield. </P>


Yeah, I see Jones open on the flank. But **** that. Dumpoff passes are for ***gots. I’m ****ing Sexy Rexy Grossman. I can get that ball in there. And, even if I can’t, I bet I’ll be able to pull it off the next go round. I like throwing the ball long. It makes my **** hard.</P>


What’s that? I should throw a quick slant? **** that. That’s gay. Button hook? Gay. Flare out? Gay. Screen pass? Kevin Spacey gay. This is ****ing football. You can’t just expect wins to come to you. You can’t massage that ****. You gotta grab that game by the throat and rape the ever-loving **** out of it. You think a 5-yard out is gonna win you a game? You’re a *****. This ain’t John Shoop running this offense. Sexy Rexy’s got the arm. The dragon. You gotta unleash the dragon.</P>


Okay, I’m throwing it. Nice. Look how far it went. I look good. I bet I made that Pats cheerleader wet her panties with that throw. She ****ing wants me. I bet she likes it over a stair railing. I can hit that with 100% accuracy, my dear. Mmmmmm. I am delicious.</P>


Oh ****. Looks like Samuel caught it. Again. Oh well. It still felt ****ing great to throw that ****. Tell me that wasn’t one of the prettiest passes you ever saw. You know what? Not only am I gonna throw it long the next time we hit the field. I’m gonna throw it even longer. Harder. You see that kid in wheelchair sitting in the end zone bleachers? I’m gonna nail him right between the ****ing eyes with a Sexy Rexy fastball. Why? Because I can.</P>


This is Rex Grossman we’re talking about here. We’re talking 210 lbs. of twisted steel and sex appeal. I’m not just a gunslinger. I’m a cumslinger. Throwing that ball long tells all the Rexettes that I am ****ing out there. On the edge. Where I gotta be. The ladies love the danger. The unpredictability. Oh, maybe I’ll tease them with a pretty touch pass every now and again. But then I’m gonna go right back to pumping that ball out for all it’s worth. It tells them I throw like I ****. That’s how we do things in the sexy business.</P>


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Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:06 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis



http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

the truth will set you free
The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 02:06 PM
Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</P>


That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</P>


Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</P>

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:08 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis



http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

the truth will set you free
The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3


bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:08 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while <font color="#0000ff">NBA teams have better road followings
</font></p>


wouldnt this suggest that there are clearly MORE fans of MORE teams than anything the nhl can claim?
Look at someone like Lando. He lives in a small market, but is a fan of teams that play nowhere near him, in NY and LA. </p>

don't let Rex get u all worked up

the TV ratings tell it all - he just is grasping
Rex???

your the Rex Ryan of this debate

a little success and you think Hockey is nationally accepted

and you avoid all the truths and just try to hang on a minor jaded fact which really doesn't represent the debate at all, but still think u win because of it...

much like Rex Ryan thought he ran NY because his team lost in the AFCC twice...

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.3424087.1325549764!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_576/image.jpg
LMAO, YOU'RE the Rex Ryan of this debate. It was long over than out of nowhere you start it up today which is something that Rex does all the time, ok Rex?

Hockey is obviously accepted, you realize that facts are being put forth and you change your argument, its the same thing as yesterday. I can continue this for a little while longer then Im going out to get those $1 SB programs from the Dollar Tree

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 02:09 PM
just paid for my Vegas trip.

$670 for flight, and 4 nights/5 days in Mandalay Bay resort/casino.

my friends are desperately trying to make do the exotic car racing....its like $400 to drive 5 laps around a legit track in a Ferrari 458...which is like my dream car. but that's a pretty steep price =\
Idk...maybe i'll do it.
I rather just drop a few hundred and get a baller *** car for the entire time im there.
This sure is a big change from the guy who didn't know if he would have money to go to a Giants game months in advance. Have fun man. Vegas is awesome.
</P>


Rent when down ;)
I moved home when my buddy sold the house, remember?
It's cool, im able to save alot more for things i want, even after the first month. </P>


and yea, the first year of THEE game, i was definitely hurting for money...badly.</P>


and **** you matt....suck my ****. i'll give you a dollar. kthx =]</P>

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:10 PM
Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</p>


That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</p>


Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</p>

Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:12 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while <font color="#0000ff">NBA teams have better road followings
</font></p>


wouldnt this suggest that there are clearly MORE fans of MORE teams than anything the nhl can claim?
Look at someone like Lando. He lives in a small market, but is a fan of teams that play nowhere near him, in NY and LA. </p>

don't let Rex get u all worked up

the TV ratings tell it all - he just is grasping
Rex???

your the Rex Ryan of this debate

a little success and you think Hockey is nationally accepted

and you avoid all the truths and just try to hang on a minor jaded fact which really doesn't represent the debate at all, but still think u win because of it...

much like Rex Ryan thought he ran NY because his team lost in the AFCC twice...

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.3424087.1325549764!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_576/image.jpg
LMAO, YOU'RE the Rex Ryan of this debate. It was long over than out of nowhere you start it up today which is something that Rex does all the time, ok Rex?

Hockey is obviously accepted, you realize that facts are being put forth and you change your argument, its the same thing as yesterday. I can continue this for a little while longer then Im going out to get those $1 SB programs from the Dollar Tree




you responded to me after i got off the boards, so I just responded to what u responded too

no im not.. America thinks its boring. I always said it was in the big 4. OBVIOUSLY by saying that it gets attention, but it does not compare to the other sports.

like i said your in the trees being a tree hugger so you can't see the forrest

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:12 PM
If you look at the top 17 on that hockey list only 1 team is not in the northeast or Canada. That is LA, one of the biggest cities in the world. Hockey is more popular in the east coast and colder climates. Plus it has a tradition up there. People in the midwest or west coast don't really care about hockey at all I would think unless they have a team in the city.

TV is a whole different story. There are NBA games on all the time. There is never hockey on unless it's on VS and who knows who even gets that channel. They get one national game a week and people barely watch that I bet. People would be much more inclined to watch a BBall game while browsing through the channels than a hockey game.

It is also losing popularity because of how difficult it is to play. Cities don't have rinks set up to play or programs to teach kids. You can't just go out in the front yard and play. You can bounce a ball with a hoop anywhere in the country and in any climate.

Hockey in the Northeast compared to the rest of the country is a HUGE difference. Plus if you have a city with a B'ball team and a hockey team I could almost guarantee the Bball team is going to be more popular than the hockey team most of the time.

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:13 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis



http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

the truth will set you free
The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3


bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL


Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 02:15 PM
Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</P>


That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</P>


Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</P>




Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
</P>


I don't really know what the excitement is at Blackhawk games these days. But in the days of Stan Makita and Tony Esposito, it was nuts.</P>


You can look at attendance figures if you like. But hoops draws more celebrities, corporations, and other phony fans. Hockey fans are hard core.</P>


Basketball is all about slam dunks, hotdogging, one on one play and the glorification of a few superstars. Hockey is all about the <U>game</U>.</P>


Gotta go with Kase 100% on this argument.</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:15 PM
Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</p>


That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</p>


Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</p>

Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 02:16 PM
If you look at the top 17 on that hockey list only 1 team is not in the northeast or Canada. That is LA, one of the biggest cities in the world. Hockey is more popular in the east coast and colder climates. Plus it has a tradition up there. People in the midwest or west coast don't really care about hockey at all I would think unless they have a team in the city.

TV is a whole different story. There are NBA games on all the time. There is never hockey on unless it's on VS and who knows who even gets that channel. They get one national game a week and people barely watch that I bet. People would be much more inclined to watch a BBall game while browsing through the channels than a hockey game.

It is also losing popularity because of how difficult it is to play. Cities don't have rinks set up to play or programs to teach kids. You can't just go out in the front yard and play. You can bounce a ball with a hoop anywhere in the country and in any climate.

Hockey in the Northeast compared to the rest of the country is a HUGE difference. Plus if you have a city with a B'ball team and a hockey team I could almost guarantee the Bball team is going to be more popular than the hockey team most of the time.
</P>


well said, on all points, sir.</P>

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:17 PM
http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.3424087.1325549764!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_576/image.jpg

“I’m the only one [in the Ryan family of coaches] with only one Super Bowl ring,” Ryan said, via the New York Daily News. <font color="#0000FF">“But I’m planning on getting another one, and I’m planning on getting it quickly.”
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“We got some scars this year from this,” Ryan said. “Anybody who doesn’t have scars is either lying to you or never dared. One thing about us: We dare. We put it out there — I put it out there — that we want to be great.”



GOOD LUCK FATBOY

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:18 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis



http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

the truth will set you free
The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3


bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL


Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons


I see rex is back making ridic statements

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:20 PM
Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</p>


That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</p>


Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</p>

Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long



its absolutely true.. you have 12 teams that sellout at home and only 1 team that sells out overall...

Theres hockey cities, no doubt. The whole country doesn't give a **** though...

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 02:20 PM
Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</P>


That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</P>


Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</P>




Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long
</P>


</P>


i dont think it's that drastic of a generalization. while NHL fans are probably the most hardcore of fans similar to football(in my own opinion), there are just less of them across the board in U.S.
It's not a knock on hockey, I jsut think there's less of an overall interest than there is with the other sports.
</P>

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:20 PM
Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases.

Locally maybe. Nationally it's not even close.

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:21 PM
If you look at the top 17 on that hockey list only 1 team is not in the northeast or Canada. That is LA, one of the biggest cities in the world. Hockey is more popular in the east coast and colder climates. Plus it has a tradition up there. People in the midwest or west coast don't really care about hockey at all I would think unless they have a team in the city.

TV is a whole different story. There are NBA games on all the time. There is never hockey on unless it's on VS and who knows who even gets that channel. They get one national game a week and people barely watch that I bet. People would be much more inclined to watch a BBall game while browsing through the channels than a hockey game.

It is also losing popularity because of how difficult it is to play. Cities don't have rinks set up to play or programs to teach kids. You can't just go out in the front yard and play. You can bounce a ball with a hoop anywhere in the country and in any climate.

Hockey in the Northeast compared to the rest of the country is a HUGE difference. Plus if you have a city with a B'ball team and a hockey team I could almost guarantee the Bball team is going to be more popular than the hockey team most of the time.
Chicago, San Jose, LA, Minnesota, St Louis arent in the Northeast

Maybe the whole 'hockey is only big in the cold climates' argument was true 20yrs ago but teams in warm weather cities have really caught on just look at the teams in Cali, they have a HUGE following. The longer these teams exist and draw a good following the more community programs will be spawned.

Yes anyone can bounce a ball and walk to the local park or school yard to shoot hoops and its much tougher to play hockey, but what does that say about the hockey fanbase vs the basketball fanbase, it says we're MUCH more dedicated

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:21 PM
Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</p>


That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</p>


Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</p>




Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
</p>


I don't really know what the excitement is at Blackhawk games these days. But in the days of Stan Makita and Tony Esposito, it was nuts.</p>


You can look at attendance figures if you like. But hoops draws more celebrities, corporations, and other phony fans. Hockey fans are hard core.</p>


Basketball is all about slam dunks, hotdogging, one on one play and the glorification of a few superstars. Hockey is all about the <u>game</u>.</p>


Gotta go with Kase 100% on this argument.</p>

everything u just said, actually means u agree with me

America's interest in NBA HIGHLY outweights the interest of the NHL...

its clear

stop davening - your not every good at it anymore

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:22 PM
If you look at the top 17 on that hockey list only 1 team is not in the northeast or Canada. That is LA, one of the biggest cities in the world. Hockey is more popular in the east coast and colder climates. Plus it has a tradition up there. People in the midwest or west coast don't really care about hockey at all I would think unless they have a team in the city.

TV is a whole different story. There are NBA games on all the time. There is never hockey on unless it's on VS and who knows who even gets that channel. They get one national game a week and people barely watch that I bet. People would be much more inclined to watch a BBall game while browsing through the channels than a hockey game.

It is also losing popularity because of how difficult it is to play. Cities don't have rinks set up to play or programs to teach kids. You can't just go out in the front yard and play. You can bounce a ball with a hoop anywhere in the country and in any climate.

Hockey in the Northeast compared to the rest of the country is a HUGE difference. Plus if you have a city with a B'ball team and a hockey team I could almost guarantee the Bball team is going to be more popular than the hockey team most of the time.
Chicago, San Jose, LA, Minnesota, St Louis arent in the Northeast

Maybe the whole 'hockey is only big in the cold climates' argument was true 20yrs ago but teams in warm weather cities have really caught on just look at the teams in Cali, they have a HUGE following. The longer these teams exist and draw a good following the more community programs will be spawned.

Yes anyone can bounce a ball and walk to the local park or school yard to shoot hoops and its much tougher to play hockey, but what does that say about the hockey fanbase vs the basketball fanbase, it says we're MUCH more dedicated


and much smaller

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:23 PM
Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases.

Locally maybe. Nationally it's not even close.


and no, because locally to kase is the tri-state

Knicks are the bigger story than the Rangers and from what i've been hearing the Rangers are looking liket he best team in the NHL

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:25 PM
<h1>NBA vs. NHL: Attendance and Ratings In Markets Where TeamsCompete</h1>

<div class="post-info">



<span class="time">April 22, 2010</span></p></div>

New York</p>


Ratings

Knicks - 0.95

Rangers – 0.89</p>


Attendance

Rangers – <span style="font-weight:normal;">99.3% Capacity</span>

Knicks – 98.7% Capacity </p>


New Jersey</p>


Ratings

Devils – 0.58

Nets – 0.29</p>


Attendance

Devils – 88.2% capacity

Nets – 69.1% capacity</p>


Los Angeles</p>


Ratings

Lakers – 3.54

Kings – 0.48

Clippers – 0.44</p>


Attendance

Lakers – 99.7% capacity

Kings – 93.6% capacity

Clippers – 85.7% capacity</p>


Chicago</p>


Ratings

Blackhawks – 2.45

Bulls – 2.35</p>


Attendance

Blackhawks – 108.3% capacity

Bulls – 99.1% capacity</p>


Philadelphia</p>


Ratings

Flyers – 2.18

76ers – 1.24</p>


Attendance

Flyers – 100.2% capacity

76ers – 70.0% capacity</p>


Dallas</p>


Ratings

Mavericks – 2.41

Stars – 0.74</p>


Attendance

Mavericks – 104.1% capacity

Stars – 92.9% capacity</p>


Bay Area</p>


Ratings

Warriors – 1.35

Sharks – 1.11</p>


Attendance

Sharks – <span style="font-weight:normal;">100.4%</span>

Warriors – 92.0%</p>


Boston</p>


Ratings

Celtics – 3.11

Bruins – 2.18</p>


Attendance

Bruins – 99.0%

Celtics – 97.6%</p>


Atlanta</p>


Ratings

Hawks – 1.93/1.66

Thrashers – 0.33</p>


Attendance

Hawks – 88.3% capacity

Thrashers – 73.4%capacity</p>


Washington</p>


Ratings

Capitals – 1.60

Wizards – 1.18</p>


Attendance

Capitals – 100.0%

Wizards – 80.3%</p>


Detroit</p>


Ratings

Red Wings – 4.21

Pistons – 1.98</p>


Attendance

Red Wings – 97.4% capacity

Pistons – 84.9% capacity</p>


Phoenix</p>


Ratings

Suns – 3.18

Coyotes – 0.62</p>


Attendance

Suns – 95.8% capacity

Coyotes – 68.5% capacity</p>


Minneapolis/St. Paul</p>


Ratings

Wild – 1.67

Timberwolves – 0.75</p>


Attendance

Wild – 101.9% capacity

Timberwolves – 78.0% capacity</p>


Denver</p>


Ratings

Nuggets – 2.78

Avalanche – 1.56</p>


Attendance

Nuggets – 93.9% capacity

Avalanche – 77.5% capacity</p>


Miami</p>


Ratings

Heat – 2.48

Panthers – 0.25</p>


Attendance

Heat – 90.5%

Panthers – 78.7%</p>
Markets Where Hockey Defeats Basketball

Ratings: <span style="font-weight:normal;">6</span>

Attendance: <span style="font-weight:normal;">9</span>

Both:

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:26 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:28 PM
<font size="4">Hockey Only Beating Hoops on TV in ThreeMarkets</font>

We’re not
going to make an enthusiasm gap joke here. <font color="#0000FF">Basketball’s always doing
better than hockey on TV, and that’s not what that subject was debated
on. <font size="4">The point here as that it takes a basketball team really blowing
chunks to find a hockey team that can beat it in the ratings.</font></font></p>


What follows after the jump is a slightly more detailed look at the
NBA vs. NHL battle in markets where both teams compete. We’ll feature
the teams in the market’s current average attendance as well. Enjoy.</p>

Atlanta

NBA: Hawks

NHL: Thrashers</p>


Attendance

Hawks: 16,398 (87.6%)

Thrashers: 14,361 (77.4%)</p>


TV Ratings

Hawks: 1.4

Thrashers: 0.2</p>


Boston

NBA: Celtics

NHL: Bruins</p>


Attendance

Celtics: 18,624 (100%)

Bruins: 16,731 (89.8%)</p>


TV Ratings

Celtics: 3.7

Bruins: 2.2</p>


Chicago

NBA: Bulls

NHL: Blackhawks</p>


Attendance

Bulls: 21,003 (96.7%)

Blackhawks: 22,495 (114.7%)</p>


TV Ratings

Bulls: 2.3

Blackhawks: 1.1</p>


Dallas

NBA: Mavericks

NHL: Stars</p>


Attendance

Mavericks: 20,020 (104.3%)

Stars: 17,645 (95.2%)</p>


TV Ratings

Mavericks: 1.2

Stars: 0.5</p>


Denver

NBA: Nuggets

NHL: Avalanche</p>


Attendance

Nuggets: 16,820 (87.8%)

Avalanche: 15,797 (87.7%)</p>


TV Ratings

Nuggets: 1.8

Avalanche: 1.7</p>


Detroit

NBA: Pistons

NHL: Red Wings</p>


Attendance

Pistons: 22,076 (100%)

Red Wings: 19,724 (98.3%)</p>


TV Ratings

Pistons: 3.9

Red Wings: 3.7</p>


South Florida

NBA: Heat

NHL: Panthers</p>


Attendance

Heat: 17,754 (90.6%)

Panthers: 14,967 (77.8%)</p>


TV Ratings

Heat: 2.2

Panthers: 0.2</p>


Los Angeles

NBA: Lakers and Clippers

NHL: Kings</p>


Attendance

Lakers: 18,997 (99.7%)

Clippers: <span style="font-weight:normal;">15,443 (81.0%)</span>

Kings: 15,965 (86.3%)</p>


TV Ratings

Lakers: 4.2

Clippers: 0.6

Kings: 0.4</p>


Minnesota

NBA: Timberwolves

NHL: Wild</p>


Attendance

Timberwolves: 13,730 (70.9%)

Wild: 18,568 (102.8%)</p>


TV Ratings

Timberwolves: 1.1

Wild: 2.2</p>


New Jersey

NBA: Nets

NHL: Devils</p>


Attendance

Nets: <span style="font-weight:normal;">15,152 (75.8%)</span>

Devils: 15,313 (86.9%)</p>


TV Ratings

Nets: 0.6

Devils: 0.4</p>


New York

NBA: Knicks

NHL: Rangers</p>


Attendance

Knicks: 19,132 (96.8%)

Rangers: 18,200 (100%)</p>


TV Ratings

Knicks: 1.2

Rangers: 1.0</p>


Philadelphia

NBA: 76ers

NHL: Flyers</p>


Attendance

76ers: 14,536 (71.5%)

Flyers: 19,428 (99.6%)</p>


TV Ratings

76ers: 1.5

Flyers: 2.2</p>


Phoenix</p>


NBA: Suns

NHL: Coyotes</p>


Attendance

Suns: 18,422 (100%)

Coyotes: 14,801 (84.6%)</p>


TV Ratings

Suns: 3.4

Coyotes: 0.5</p>


Bay Area

NBA: Warriors

NHL: Sharks</p>


Attendance

Warriors: 18,855 (96,2%)

Sharks: 17,483 (99.9%)</p>


TV Ratings

Warriors: 1.5

Sharks: 1.3</p>


Washington

NBA: Wizards

NHL: Capitals</p>


Attendance

Wizards: 16,854 (83.5%)

Capitals: 17,973 (96.3%)</p>


TV Ratings

Wizards: 1.1

Capitals: 1.2</p>
All attendance numbers are from ESPN (http://www.espn.com/). All ratings numbers are from Sports Business Journal via Sports Media (http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/2009/01/nbanhl-numbers-game.html)

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:28 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis



http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

the truth will set you free
The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3


bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL


Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons


I see rex is back making ridic statements
Nah I gotta say the most ridiculous statement was saying that the nation doesnt care about hockey, cause it plain and simple isnt true

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:29 PM
i just looked something up and I thought it was funny. The best Stanley Cup ratings the NHL ever had was last year and it was pretty much the same exact number that the season premier of an awful show I was watching last year called THE CAPE....

long story short... if NHL was a TV show - it would be cancelled

lol

MattMeyerBud
02-16-2012, 02:30 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis



http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

the truth will set you free
The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3


bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL


Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons


I see rex is back making ridic statements
Nah I gotta say the most ridiculous statement was saying that the nation doesnt care about hockey, cause it plain and simple isnt true


its actually quite true

hockey towns care about hockey - thats about it...

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 02:31 PM
Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</P>


That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</P>


Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</P>




Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
</P>


I don't really know what the excitement is at Blackhawk games these days. But in the days of Stan Makita and Tony Esposito, it was nuts.</P>


You can look at attendance figures if you like. But hoops draws more celebrities, corporations, and other phony fans. Hockey fans are hard core.</P>


Basketball is all about slam dunks, hotdogging, one on one play and the glorification of a few superstars. Hockey is all about the <U>game</U>.</P>


Gotta go with Kase 100% on this argument.</P>




everything u just said, actually means u agree with me

America's interest in NBA HIGHLY outweights the interest of the NHL...

its clear

stop davening - your not every good at it anymore


</P>


Its all about TV Matt. Thats where the money is at. Hockey doesn't play well on TV. But as a live event, its a great game.</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:32 PM
Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases.

Locally maybe. Nationally it's not even close.


and no, because locally to kase is the tri-state

Knicks are the bigger story than the Rangers and from what i've been hearing the Rangers are looking liket he best team in the NHL
Yes, the Tri-State. Thats what local is, cause there are Knicks and Rangers fans from all 3 states that commute and attend the games at the garden.

The Rangers have been selling out much more than the Knicks for quite some time now

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:33 PM
the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country



See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long

I believe this to be true as well Kase. General statement or not. If we are going with majority it's true.

dezzzR
02-16-2012, 02:33 PM
<h1>NBA vs. NHL: Attendance and Ratings In Markets Where TeamsCompete</h1>

<div class="post-info">



<span class="time">April 22, 2010</span></p></div>

New York</p>


Ratings

Knicks - 0.95

Rangers – 0.89</p>


Attendance

Rangers – <span style="font-weight:normal;">99.3% Capacity</span>

Knicks – 98.7% Capacity </p>


New Jersey</p>


Ratings

Devils – 0.58

Nets – 0.29</p>


Attendance

Devils – 88.2% capacity

Nets – 69.1% capacity</p>


Los Angeles</p>


Ratings

Lakers – 3.54

Kings – 0.48

Clippers – 0.44</p>


Attendance

Lakers – 99.7% capacity

Kings – 93.6% capacity

Clippers – 85.7% capacity</p>


Chicago</p>


Ratings

Blackhawks – 2.45

Bulls – 2.35</p>


Attendance

Blackhawks – 108.3% capacity

Bulls – 99.1% capacity</p>


Philadelphia</p>


Ratings

Flyers – 2.18

76ers – 1.24</p>


Attendance

Flyers – 100.2% capacity

76ers – 70.0% capacity</p>


Dallas</p>


Ratings

Mavericks – 2.41

Stars – 0.74</p>


Attendance

Mavericks – 104.1% capacity

Stars – 92.9% capacity</p>


Bay Area</p>


Ratings

Warriors – 1.35

Sharks – 1.11</p>


Attendance

Sharks – <span style="font-weight:normal;">100.4%</span>

Warriors – 92.0%</p>


Boston</p>


Ratings

Celtics – 3.11

Bruins – 2.18</p>


Attendance

Bruins – 99.0%

Celtics – 97.6%</p>


Atlanta</p>


Ratings

Hawks – 1.93/1.66

Thrashers – 0.33</p>


Attendance

Hawks – 88.3% capacity

Thrashers – 73.4%capacity</p>


Washington</p>


Ratings

Capitals – 1.60

Wizards – 1.18</p>


Attendance

Capitals – 100.0%

Wizards – 80.3%</p>


Detroit</p>


Ratings

Red Wings – 4.21

Pistons – 1.98</p>


Attendance

Red Wings – 97.4% capacity

Pistons – 84.9% capacity</p>


Phoenix</p>


Ratings

Suns – 3.18

Coyotes – 0.62</p>


Attendance

Suns – 95.8% capacity

Coyotes – 68.5% capacity</p>


Minneapolis/St. Paul</p>


Ratings

Wild – 1.67

Timberwolves – 0.75</p>


Attendance

Wild – 101.9% capacity

Timberwolves – 78.0% capacity</p>


Denver</p>


Ratings

Nuggets – 2.78

Avalanche – 1.56</p>


Attendance

Nuggets – 93.9% capacity

Avalanche – 77.5% capacity</p>


Miami</p>


Ratings

Heat – 2.48

Panthers – 0.25</p>


Attendance

Heat – 90.5%

Panthers – 78.7%</p>
Markets Where Hockey Defeats Basketball

Ratings: <span style="font-weight:normal;">6</span>

Attendance: <span style="font-weight:normal;">9</span>

Both: 9 out of 15 isnt bad at all. phoenix coyotes....what a joke

lttaylor56
02-16-2012, 02:34 PM
http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.3424087.1325549764!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_576/image.jpg

“I’m the only one [in the Ryan family of coaches] with only one Super Bowl ring,” Ryan said, via the New York Daily News. <font color="#0000FF">“But I’m planning on getting another one, and I’m planning on getting it quickly.”
</font>

“We got some scars this year from this,” Ryan said. “Anybody who doesn’t have scars is either lying to you or never dared. One thing about us: We dare. We put it out there — I put it out there — that we want to be great.”



GOOD LUCK FATBOY
I just want this idiot to go away.

JPizzack
02-16-2012, 02:34 PM
i just looked something up and I thought it was funny. The best Stanley Cup ratings the NHL ever had was last year and it was pretty much the same exact number that the season premier of an awful show I was watching last year called THE CAPE....

long story short... if NHL was a TV show - it would be cancelled

lol
</P>


lmao....that's an awful way of looking at it...but i laughed regardless cuz that might be true.</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:35 PM
yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats


they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings


Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis



http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2011/sort/allPct

the truth will set you free
The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3


bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL


Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons


I see rex is back making ridic statements
Nah I gotta say the most ridiculous statement was saying that the nation doesnt care about hockey, cause it plain and simple isnt true


its actually quite true

hockey towns care about hockey - thats about it...
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:37 PM
i just looked something up and I thought it was funny. The best Stanley Cup ratings the NHL ever had was last year and it was pretty much the same exact number that the season premier of an awful show I was watching last year called THE CAPE....

long story short... if NHL was a TV show - it would be cancelled

lol

Yeah, and it was a team that had not won a Stanley Cup in ages in one of the most loyal hockey towns in the US.

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 02:38 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</P>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </P>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</P>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</P>


</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:38 PM
the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country



See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long

I believe this to be true as well Kase. General statement or not. If we are going with majority it's true.
And if we're going with general statements, there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns' so then Nationwide hockey has a bigger following

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:40 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</p>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


</p>For someone that doesnt watch sports at all its probably easier to watch basketball on TV, yes they may be bored to sleep but its easier to follow the ball.

Hockey really needs a TV angle from over the ice similar to how the NFL has that camera floating around behind the QB

lttaylor56
02-16-2012, 02:46 PM
4.8 40 yard dash, that is amazing? What was looked at if this kid ever played again before as miraculous is becoming reality. Wow

GIANTS' CHAD JONES WILL BE AT OFF-SEASON PROGRAM

"Chad Jones still has a long road back to an NFL field, but he hopes to be able to take the next steps on (or around) April 16.
The plan right now is for the injured safety to join the Giants’ offseason workout program, which opens that day, nearly 22 months after he almost lost his leg in a horrific car accident. Jones has been rehabbing hard near his home in Louisiana and he’s said many times he has his sights set on playing for the Giants in 2012.

Whether he can or not remains to be seen. At the offseason workout program at the Giants' Meadowlands practice facility he’ll continue to rehab his injured left leg in the hopes that at some point he’ll be able to pass the Giants’ team physical. So far he hasn’t, so it’s impossible to know if he’ll be ready to participate in any on-field spring workouts, mini-camp, or even training camp when it opens this summer.

Any on-field participation would be an incredible feat for the former LSU star who was a third-round pick by the Giants back in 2010. Two months after he was drafted, his career and life took a detour when he smashed his SUV into a pole on the side of a New Orleans street and shattered the fibula, tibia and ankle in his left leg and punctured his femoral artery.

Two weeks before the accident, Jones had signed a four-year, $2.615 million contract with the Giants that included a signing bonus of $825,965 – which the Giants let him keep. Recently, he restructured the final two years of his deal, lowing his 2012 salary from $490,000 to $390,000, and his 2013 salary from $575,000 to $480,000.

He did not sign any contract extensions, despite a published report that said he did.

Both Jones’ camp and the Giants have been cautiously optimistic about his progress and seem to expet he’ll be on the field at some point this summer. Jones last held a public workout on his 23rd birthday, back on Oct. 5, when he was videotaped running back-to-back 40-yard dashes in 4.84 seconds and 4.90 seconds."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giant

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:48 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</p>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


</p>
Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.

dezzzR
02-16-2012, 02:50 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</p>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


</p>
Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.
Matt said hockey was boring, which was his main reason why hockey isnt popular. Thats a knock. I was at a bar the other night and the ranger game was on.

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 02:51 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</P>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </P>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</P>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</P>


</P>



Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.
</P>


That may be what you are saying Lando, buts its not what Matt is saying. It was yesterday that Matt made the point that hockey is "boring" BECAUSE its less popular than the other 3 sports.</P>


Thats where this discussion started. </P>

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:54 PM
TV Ratings Show America Still Likes Basketball More ThanHockey<p class="byline">Apr 20, 2010 12:56 PM EDT

</p>






Sure, it's a far cry from a few years ago, when hockey wasn't
even on America's radar, but the NBA still dominates the NHL when it
comes to TV ratings. John Ourand from Sports Business Journal has thestaggering (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525235716)numbers (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525494871):</p>
<blockquote>


NBA playoff ratings dominate. TNT's SAS/DAL Sun was cable's most
watched sports event (2.86M homes) followed by ESPN's MIA/BOS Sat
(2.84M).</p>


<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><span class="entry-content">NBA
rates even with late starts. TNT's POR/PHO Sun (2.25M homes) and ESPN's
J***-DEN Sat (2.18M) were in cable's top 70 with 11p starts.</span></span></span></p>
</blockquote>


On the other hand, the highest-rated NHL telecast (last Saturday's Capitals-Canadiens tilt),reached (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525737986)just 549,000 homes, according to Ourand. Not bad, but not anywhere close to the NBA. (Note: Obviously, this doesn't include the local broadcasts).</p>


</p>

The Nugs and J*** had 4 times more viewers nationally. LMAO!!!
</p>

2 of the worst teams in the NBA vs one of the most popular hockey teams and Ovechkin a star.
</p>


</p>


</p>

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:55 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 02:56 PM
TV Ratings Show America Still Likes Basketball More ThanHockey
<P class=byline>Apr 20, 2010 12:56 PM EDT </P>


Sure, it's a far cry from a few years ago, when hockey wasn't even on America's radar, but the NBA still dominates the NHL when it comes to TV ratings. John Ourand from Sports Business Journal has thestaggering (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525235716)numbers (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525494871):</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>


NBA playoff ratings dominate. TNT's SAS/DAL Sun was cable's most watched sports event (2.86M homes) followed by ESPN's MIA/BOS Sat (2.84M).</P>


<SPAN class=status-body><SPAN class=status-content><SPAN class=entry-content>NBA rates even with late starts. TNT's POR/PHO Sun (2.25M homes) and ESPN's J***-DEN Sat (2.18M) were in cable's top 70 with 11p starts.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE>


On the other hand, the highest-rated NHL telecast (last Saturday's Capitals-Canadiens tilt),reached (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525737986)just 549,000 homes, according to Ourand. Not bad, but not anywhere close to the NBA. (Note: Obviously, this doesn't include the local broadcasts).</P>



</P>


The Nugs and J*** had 4 times more viewers nationally. LMAO!!!
</P>


2 of the worst teams in the NBA vs one of the most popular hockey teams and Ovechkin a star.
</P>



</P>



</P>


</P>


Lando.....<FONT size=5>HOCKEY IS NOT GREAT ON TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</FONT></P>


How many times do I have to say it? Continuing to say things that prove my point doesn't offer up anything new.</P>


Hockey is a live sport. Hockey is a GREAT live sport. Far better than basketball.</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:57 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</p>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


</p>
Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.
No dont get it twisted, Matt was bashing hockey and he does every time we speak on it

WOW, sports bars in Utah suck the ol brasciole. You never hear people talking about it cause Utah has no hockey team, the closest team is in Denver and the Avs blow dong, you even said it, if you have a team you'll care more and in your part of the country there is no team.

There are people that watch all 82 Rangers games at my local bar, hell even I dont watch all 82 Rangers games and they're my #2 after Big Blue, hockey fans are WAAAAY more dedicated than bball fans and there's less of a bandwagon, once a hockey fan always a hockey fan, and if you see a live game you're hooked for LIFE

It isnt always the 4th of the big 4, and its never going below that

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 02:58 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</p>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


</p>



Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.
</p>


That may be what you are saying Lando, buts its not what Matt is saying. It was yesterday that Matt made the point that hockey is "boring" BECAUSE its less popular than the other 3 sports.</p>


Thats where this discussion started. </p>
I don't think hockey is boring at all. A regular season game maybe but the playoffs are not. I didn't watch any of the Stanley Cup Finals however. The only game I have watched from start to finish was USA vs Canada in the Olympics and that was incredible. Wish we would have won though.

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 02:59 PM
And think about this.</P>


The Boston fans were far more excited about the Bruins Stanley Cup championship than the Celtics championship.</P>


AND</P>


One of the greatest sports days in New York history was the Stanley Cup championship of the Rangers in 1994. I doubt any of the recent Yankee championship energized the city like the Rangers did.</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 02:59 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</p>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


</p>
Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.
Matt said hockey was boring, which was his main reason why hockey isnt popular. Thats a knock. I was at a bar the other night and the ranger game was on.
Im going to the bar tonight to watch the Rangers vs Blackhawks and they play it on almost EVERY TV and also on the projection screen.... Then again I wont lie, its a Football/Hockey bar, the bar even has their own beer league hockey team

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 03:01 PM
And don't forget that maybe the greatest sports day in US history was the USA gold medal in the 1980 Olympics in hockey. The "Dream Team" wasn't anything more than a blip on the screen.

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:02 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:03 PM
MUWHAHAHAHA

We've discussed hockey for 2 straight days, THEE thread is bumping cause of puck talk, MUWAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.1800pocketpc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evil-laugh.png

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 03:04 PM
TV Ratings Show America Still Likes Basketball More ThanHockey
<p class="byline">Apr 20, 2010 12:56 PM EDT </p>


Sure, it's a far cry from a few years ago, when hockey wasn't even on America's radar, but the NBA still dominates the NHL when it comes to TV ratings. John Ourand from Sports Business Journal has thestaggering (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525235716)numbers (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525494871):</p>
<blockquote>


NBA playoff ratings dominate. TNT's SAS/DAL Sun was cable's most watched sports event (2.86M homes) followed by ESPN's MIA/BOS Sat (2.84M).</p>


<span class="status-body"><span class="status-content"><span class="entry-content">NBA rates even with late starts. TNT's POR/PHO Sun (2.25M homes) and ESPN's J***-DEN Sat (2.18M) were in cable's top 70 with 11p starts.</span></span></span></p></blockquote>


On the other hand, the highest-rated NHL telecast (last Saturday's Capitals-Canadiens tilt),reached (http://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/12525737986)just 549,000 homes, according to Ourand. Not bad, but not anywhere close to the NBA. (Note: Obviously, this doesn't include the local broadcasts).</p>



</p>


The Nugs and J*** had 4 times more viewers nationally. LMAO!!!
</p>


2 of the worst teams in the NBA vs one of the most popular hockey teams and Ovechkin a star.
</p>



</p>



</p>


</p>


Lando.....<font size="5">HOCKEY IS NOT GREAT ON TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</font></p>


How many times do I have to say it? Continuing to say things that prove my point doesn't offer up anything new.</p>


Hockey is a live sport. Hockey is a GREAT live sport. Far better than basketball.</p>
Kase 1's argument is that hockey is popular nationwide. I am just proving him wrong. Matt and myself say it's irrelevent. No one cares about watching hockey unless they live in an area with a team or grew up following one. People will watch Bball that don't care at all about it. Maybe part of that is society's fault. You think people care about the Kings when the Lakers are doing good? Did people care about the Blackhawks in the 90's when the greatest basketball player ever was winning 6 rings? I don't.

The fact that hockey sucks on TV just bolsters our side more. So no one likes watching hockey so they go to the games. Well the NBA still outdraws the NHL in most cities so whether you are talking about live or TV it still gets trumped. Nationally it's not even close.

I expect Hockey Towns to sell out their games, I don't expect a guy in New Mexico to give 2 ****s about the Stanley Cup Finals let alone a regular season game that's on Sunday on NBC.

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:05 PM
And don't forget that maybe the greatest sports day in US history was the USA gold medal in the 1980 Olympics in hockey. The "Dream Team" wasn't anything more than a blip on the screen.I wish I could chest bump you through the computer, LOL

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 03:05 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games


</P>


When you quote TV figures, basketball wins. When you quote attendance figures, hockey wins.</P>


Answer: Basketball is better on TV (masses making little effort). Hockey is better live (real fans dedicated enough to go to the games)</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:06 PM
And think about this.</p>


The Boston fans were far more excited about the Bruins Stanley Cup championship than the Celtics championship.</p>


AND</p>


One of the greatest sports days in New York history was the Stanley Cup championship of the Rangers in 1994. I doubt any of the recent Yankee championship energized the city like the Rangers did.</p>Ive experienced Yankee and Giants parades, I was too young to attend the parade in 94 and Im DIEING to attend a Rangers parade down the canyon of heroes, I would imagine it to be TREMENDOUS!!!!

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:07 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games


</p>


When you quote TV figures, basketball wins. When you quote attendance figures, hockey wins.</p>


Answer: Basketball is better on TV (masses making little effort). Hockey is better live (real fans dedicated enough to go to the games)</p>I could sign off on that...

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 03:07 PM
And don't forget that maybe the greatest sports day in US history was the USA gold medal in the 1980 Olympics in hockey. The "Dream Team" wasn't anything more than a blip on the screen.I wish I could chest bump you through the computer, LOL
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By my calculations...Lando may have been conceived as a product of the joy from that great national triumph.</P>


Edited.</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:08 PM
And don't forget that maybe the greatest sports day in US history was the USA gold medal in the 1980 Olympics in hockey. The "Dream Team" wasn't anything more than a blip on the screen.I wish I could chest bump you through the computer, LOL
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By my calculations...you may have been conceived as a product of the joy from that great national triumph.</p>I WISH!!!!

Im too young for that though, my sister or LANDO on the other hand....

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 03:09 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</p>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


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Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.
Matt said hockey was boring, which was his main reason why hockey isnt popular. Thats a knock. I was at a bar the other night and the ranger game was on.
Im going to the bar tonight to watch the Rangers vs Blackhawks and they play it on almost EVERY TV and also on the projection screen.... Then again I wont lie, its a Football/Hockey bar, the bar even has their own beer league hockey team

Well no **** Kase. lol You live in NY and it's the NY Rangers. I would expect them to put it on. Any city that doesn't have a hockey team will not be showing Hockey on any of their TV's. Why you may ask....cause no one gives a ****!

Morehead State
02-16-2012, 03:10 PM
And don't forget that maybe the greatest sports day in US history was the USA gold medal in the 1980 Olympics in hockey. The "Dream Team" wasn't anything more than a blip on the screen.I wish I could chest bump you through the computer, LOL
</P>


By my calculations...you may have been conceived as a product of the joy from that great national triumph.</P>


I WISH!!!!

Im too young for that though, my sister or LANDO on the other hand....
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I was thinking of Lando. I see your avi and I see the mormon.</P>

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:11 PM
N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.</p>


You guys just don't get it. Hockey doesn't do well on TV because of the smallness of the puck. HD helps, but not enough. But the game is a great one. Far more fast paced, far more exciting. Plus you can hit people. </p>


The NBA is essentially a sucky game. Its popular in the same way as Survivor or American Idol is popular. I can't watch a friggin basketball game until the 4th quarter. I get that you guys love it and I think thats great. You love your hoops and I get that. But don't knock hockey because you don't get it. Quoting attendance and TV stats is a losing argument. Basketball translates better to TV. And TV is where its at. Doesn't say anything about the quality of each game.</p>


One thing we learned in the radio business.....The masses are asses.</p>


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Nobody is knocking hockey, Matt or myself. Just simply proving a point that hockey is no where near as popular as basketball nationally. It will always be the 4th most popular sport in the US and could someday go even lower.

If you asked a casual sports fan if he would rather have front row seats or an all access pass to tv games for hockey or B'ball 99% of them are going to go for B'Ball.

If you asked a serious Knicks/Rangers, Bulls/Blackhawks or Bruins/Celtics I would bet more than 70% takes B'ball.

No one cares about hockey nationally. If you have a team then of course you are going to care more. I have been to plenty of sports bars in my life. I have never seen hockey on TV nor hear people talking about it. There are bars that would rather show replays of SC than live hockey. No one cares.
Matt said hockey was boring, which was his main reason why hockey isnt popular. Thats a knock. I was at a bar the other night and the ranger game was on.
Im going to the bar tonight to watch the Rangers vs Blackhawks and they play it on almost EVERY TV and also on the projection screen.... Then again I wont lie, its a Football/Hockey bar, the bar even has their own beer league hockey team

Well no **** Kase. lol You live in NY and it's the NY Rangers. I would expect them to put it on. Any city that doesn't have a hockey team will not be showing Hockey on any of their TV's. Why you may ask....cause no one gives a ****!
By that reasoning any city that doesnt have a basketball team wouldnt show a hoops game.

Your care package is gonna be on the way right after we get these SB Programs, me, Ed and Bennett are taking a trip to the dollar store in an hr or so

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 03:12 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games



You subtract Canada?

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:15 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games



You subtract Canada?


Why subtract Canadia, they have teams in both sports.

But even without Canadia NHL has 11 teams that sellout 99% or better and the NBA has 9 that sellout 99% or better

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 03:15 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games


</p>


When you quote TV figures, basketball wins. When you quote attendance figures, hockey wins.</p>


Answer: Basketball is better on TV (masses making little effort). Hockey is better live (real fans dedicated enough to go to the games)</p>
When you quote popularity nationwide basketball wins. Another one of the arguments...

Attendance in the hockey region are higher than the rest of the country.

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 03:18 PM
And don't forget that maybe the greatest sports day in US history was the USA gold medal in the 1980 Olympics in hockey. The "Dream Team" wasn't anything more than a blip on the screen.I wish I could chest bump you through the computer, LOL
</p>


By my calculations...Lando may have been conceived as a product of the joy from that great national triumph.</p>


Edited.</p>
LOL, I was born in December so if the math works out...

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:20 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games


</p>


When you quote TV figures, basketball wins. When you quote attendance figures, hockey wins.</p>


Answer: Basketball is better on TV (masses making little effort). Hockey is better live (real fans dedicated enough to go to the games)</p>
When you quote popularity nationwide basketball wins. Another one of the arguments...

Attendance in the hockey region are higher than the rest of the country.
When you quote the attendance of cities with both teams the NHL wins and when you think of the amount of cities in the USA that sellout more games its another win for the NHL

Hoops is cool, but hockey is leaps and bounds above anything cept football

Kase-1
02-16-2012, 03:22 PM
LUND-SANITY is AMONG US!!!!!!

http://nyrblueshirtsblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/henrik-lundqvist.jpg

Say it with me.... HOCKEY, HOCKEY, HOCKEY, HOCKEY!!!!!!

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 03:25 PM
Well no **** Kase. lol You live in NY and it's the NY Rangers. I would expect them to put it on. Any city that doesn't have a hockey team will not be showing Hockey on any of their TV's. Why you may ask....cause no one gives a ****!
By that reasoning any city that doesnt have a basketball team wouldnt show a hoops game.

Your care package is gonna be on the way right after we get these SB Programs, me, Ed and Bennett are taking a trip to the dollar store in an hr or so

Exactly my point my good friend. They will show BBall from any other city or state because it's popular nationwide. Thank you for proving mine and Matt's point. Holler at me when they start showing NHL games on ESPN or TNT in primetime. 1 nationally televised game a week? C'Mon Maaaaaaan


Thank you very much for the care package. As you know it means alot to me. I really do appreciate it and if you need reimbursement for postage please let me know.

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 03:26 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games



You subtract Canada?


Why subtract Canadia, they have teams in both sports.

But even without Canadia NHL has 11 teams that sellout 99% or better and the NBA has 9 that sellout 99% or better

So it's almost even. lol

Your case is getting weaker and weaker by the minute...

bigblue4417
02-16-2012, 03:27 PM
And there are more 'hockeytowns' than 'basketballtowns'

That is debatable but no way to get a real answer.
Well Im happy you asked, I judged it by the amount of cities that sellout their home games and in the NHL there were 12 teams that sold out 100% of their games and 4 more that sold out 99% of their games, while the NBA had 6 teams that sold out 100% of their home games and 3 teams that sold out 99% of their games


</p>


When you quote TV figures, basketball wins. When you quote attendance figures, hockey wins.</p>


Answer: Basketball is better on TV (masses making little effort). Hockey is better live (real fans dedicated enough to go to the games)</p>
When you quote popularity nationwide basketball wins. Another one of the arguments...

Attendance in the hockey region are higher than the rest of the country.
When you quote the attendance of cities with both teams the NHL wins and when you think of the amount of cities in the USA that sellout more games its another win for the NHL

Hoops is cool, but hockey is leaps and bounds above anything cept football

I know for a fact you wouldn't feel that way had you not played it your entire life.