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Morehead State
03-28-2012, 02:19 PM
did you New Yorkers buy your Mega Millions tickets??

$500 Millllllllllion!!</P>


i bought a bunch of quick picks last night. where deez numbers at?!?!</P>


If I win....THEE Game is on me every year =P</P>


</P>


You can't win unless you don't play.</P>


Sucker!!!</P>

JPizzack
03-28-2012, 02:21 PM
did you New Yorkers buy your Mega Millions tickets??

$500 Millllllllllion!!</P>


i bought a bunch of quick picks last night. where deez numbers at?!?!</P>


If I win....THEE Game is on me every year =P</P>


</P>


You can't win unless you don't play.</P>


Sucker!!!</P>


</P>


ohh....right...................................... ..........................</P>

DavenIII
03-28-2012, 02:30 PM
Listening to the Obamacare vs the Supreme Court on CSPAN atm.

Paul Clement just got rocked...and the crowd laughed at him :(

the Individual Mandate seems like it's going to be dropped, but they are going to leave the rest, which sucks because without the mandate the entire thing falls apart...but the court doesn't want to get involved in that....I don't really know whats going on....

JPizzack
03-28-2012, 02:51 PM
Listening to the Obamacare vs the Supreme Court on CSPAN atm.

Paul Clement just got rocked...and the crowd laughed at him :(

the Individual Mandate seems like it's going to be dropped, but they are going to leave the rest, which sucks because without the mandate the entire thing falls apart...but the court doesn't want to get involved in that....I don't really know whats going on....
</P>


I dont understand the wording you used. What do you mean the individual mandate will be dropped but 'the rest' will be left?</P>

DavenIII
03-28-2012, 03:05 PM
Listening to the Obamacare vs the Supreme Court on CSPAN atm.

Paul Clement just got rocked...and the crowd laughed at him :(

the Individual Mandate seems like it's going to be dropped, but they are going to leave the rest, which sucks because without the mandate the entire thing falls apart...but the court doesn't want to get involved in that....I don't really know whats going on....
</p>


I dont understand the wording you used. What do you mean the individual mandate will be dropped but 'the rest' will be left?</p>

The individual mandate is part of the bill (which is over 2700 pages) the Individual Mandate forces everyone to buy Health Insurance or pay a penalty.

It's not supposed to be the governments job to tell people what they have to buy....but because of the Commerce Clause the Obama administration is saying that its ok for them to tell everyone they have to have it.

simplified Obama's administration is saying..."look everyone is going to have to use Health Care at some point so it's unfair for them not to pay for it and throw it on everyone else when they eventually will need it"

that makes some amount of sense, but it's a slippery slope...the government can tell you, you have to have health insurance because they don't trust you to pay your bills if you don't get it...

to me it's not much different then the government telling you you "have" to buy a certain amount of broccoli each year because it's "good for you" and if you don't you are likely going to not be as healthy and thus cost other people more money....so you get fined for not buying broccoli (this was an actual argument a supreme court justice made)

the problem is (in my opinion) many of the other things Obama care does/promises to do, hinges on the assumption that EVERYONE will be in health care or pay a penalty...if they take that out the bill can't afford to do the things it plans to do.....but the court doesn't seem to want to get involved with that....it seems to just want to say that it IS infact unconstitutional to force people to buy health care if they don't want it...but then wipe their hands of the whole thing.

JPizzack
03-28-2012, 03:29 PM
Listening to the Obamacare vs the Supreme Court on CSPAN atm.

Paul Clement just got rocked...and the crowd laughed at him :(

the Individual Mandate seems like it's going to be dropped, but they are going to leave the rest, which sucks because without the mandate the entire thing falls apart...but the court doesn't want to get involved in that....I don't really know whats going on....
</P>


I dont understand the wording you used. What do you mean the individual mandate will be dropped but 'the rest' will be left?</P>




The individual mandate is part of the bill (which is over 2700 pages) the Individual Mandate forces everyone to buy Health Insurance or pay a penalty.

It's not supposed to be the governments job to tell people what they have to buy....but because of the Commerce Clause the Obama administration is saying that its ok for them to tell everyone they have to have it.

simplified Obama's administration is saying..."look everyone is going to have to use Health Care at some point so it's unfair for them not to pay for it and throw it on everyone else when they eventually will need it"

that makes some amount of sense, but it's a slippery slope...the government can tell you, you have to have health insurance because they don't trust you to pay your bills if you don't get it...

to me it's not much different then the government telling you you "have" to buy a certain amount of broccoli each year because it's "good for you" and if you don't you are likely going to not be as healthy and thus cost other people more money....so you get fined for not buying broccoli (this was an actual argument a supreme court justice made)

the problem is (in my opinion) many of the other things Obama care does/promises to do, hinges on the assumption that EVERYONE will be in health care or pay a penalty...if they take that out the bill can't afford to do the things it plans to do.....but the court doesn't seem to want to get involved with that....it seems to just want to say that it IS infact unconstitutional to force people to buy health care if they don't want it...but then wipe their hands of the whole thing.
</P>


Understood.
Yea, it's ridiculous to make it a requirement. Do i went to pay for other people's coverage? no....
but those ppl have to make the choice if they even care. lol

The unconstitutional debate is dodgy, but to an extent it's correct. However if you want to look at it that way, we're forced to pay taxes we don't want to. lol i know taxes =/= health care....but you get my point.</P>

DavenIII
03-28-2012, 03:38 PM
The unconstitutional debate is dodgy, but to an extent it's correct. However if you want to look at it that way, we're forced to pay taxes we don't want to. lol i know taxes =/= health care....but you get my point.

you pay taxes on income..you pay taxes on things you use, you use roads you are protected by police and firemen the food you eat is FDA approved etc etc.....

you don't necessarily have to use health care ever, you could by all rights not buy insurance and if something happens pay for it yourself, people do this, there is nothing to say (yet) that you can't pay your own doctor bills out of your own money.

simplified the government want you to force you to buy a "product" or be fined for not buying it, that's not something that's happened before, and it seems to be unconstitutional.

Morehead State
03-28-2012, 03:44 PM
Listening to the Obamacare vs the Supreme Court on CSPAN atm.

Paul Clement just got rocked...and the crowd laughed at him :(

the Individual Mandate seems like it's going to be dropped, but they are going to leave the rest, which sucks because without the mandate the entire thing falls apart...but the court doesn't want to get involved in that....I don't really know whats going on....
</P>


I dont understand the wording you used. What do you mean the individual mandate will be dropped but 'the rest' will be left?</P>




The individual mandate is part of the bill (which is over 2700 pages) the Individual Mandate forces everyone to buy Health Insurance or pay a penalty.

It's not supposed to be the governments job to tell people what they have to buy....but because of the Commerce Clause the Obama administration is saying that its ok for them to tell everyone they have to have it.

simplified Obama's administration is saying..."look everyone is going to have to use Health Care at some point so it's unfair for them not to pay for it and throw it on everyone else when they eventually will need it"

that makes some amount of sense, but it's a slippery slope...the government can tell you, you have to have health insurance because they don't trust you to pay your bills if you don't get it...

to me it's not much different then the government telling you you "have" to buy a certain amount of broccoli each year because it's "good for you" and if you don't you are likely going to not be as healthy and thus cost other people more money....so you get fined for not buying broccoli (this was an actual argument a supreme court justice made)

the problem is (in my opinion) many of the other things Obama care does/promises to do, hinges on the assumption that EVERYONE will be in health care or pay a penalty...if they take that out the bill can't afford to do the things it plans to do.....but the court doesn't seem to want to get involved with that....it seems to just want to say that it IS infact unconstitutional to force people to buy health care if they don't want it...but then wipe their hands of the whole thing.
</P>


Don't be fooled by the nature of the questions Daven. especially from Justice Kennedy. I would tend to believe that in the end the court (by 5-4 or 6-3) will UPHOLD the individual mandate.</P>


I think they will be very reluctant to overturn an act of Congress. I would think the basis is that since the Congress has the power to regulate commerce under the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution, they will decide that all Americans are, by definition participants in the commerce of Healthcare. therefore the Congess has the power to compell US citizens to purchase insurance.</P>


I believe that the individual mandate is <U>unconstitutional,</U> but I believe the court will uphold it.</P>

DavenIII
03-28-2012, 04:20 PM
Don't be fooled by the nature of the questions Daven. especially from Justice Kennedy. I would tend to believe that in the end the court (by 5-4 or 6-3) will UPHOLD the individual mandate.</p>


I think they will be very reluctant to overturn an act of Congress. I would think the basis is that since the Congress has the power to regulate commerce under the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution, they will decide that all Americans are, by definition participants in the commerce of Healthcare. therefore the Congess has the power to compell US citizens to purchase insurance.</p>


I believe that the individual mandate is <u>unconstitutional,</u> but I believe the court will uphold it.</p>

But how can they say that all Americans are "by definition" participants of Health care "Insurance" it's entirely possible to not have Health Care "Insurance" but still pay for your own Health Care.

Health care insurance and health care are separate things.

I sincerely hope that at least the individual mandate is over turned because to me it seems obvious that our government should not have the ability to force it's citizens to pay for a product that they don't particular want or need.

Kase-1
03-28-2012, 04:34 PM
Uh oh Morehead and Daven are discussing politics....

This is what I see

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/0_61_320_limbaugh.jpg

'I hate liberals'
"No I hate liberals"
'Lets run away to Vermont and get married'

Morehead State
03-28-2012, 05:02 PM
Don't be fooled by the nature of the questions Daven. especially from Justice Kennedy. I would tend to believe that in the end the court (by 5-4 or 6-3) will UPHOLD the individual mandate.</P>


I think they will be very reluctant to overturn an act of Congress. I would think the basis is that since the Congress has the power to regulate commerce under the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution, they will decide that all Americans are, by definition participants in the commerce of Healthcare. therefore the Congess has the power to compell US citizens to purchase insurance.</P>


I believe that the individual mandate is <U>unconstitutional,</U> but I believe the court will uphold it.</P>




But how can they say that all Americans are "by definition" participants of Health care "Insurance" it's entirely possible to not have Health Care "Insurance" but still pay for your own Health Care.

Health care insurance and health care are separate things.

I sincerely hope that at least the individual mandate is over turned because to me it seems obvious that our government should not have the ability to force it's citizens to pay for a product that they don't particular want or need.
</P>


The argument of thr administration is that Health Care insurance and "Health Care" in general are the same market. One supports the other. I just have a feeling that Kennedy is not apt to overturn an act of Congress unless there is a blatant violation of the Constitution. The argument is gray at best. </P>


I'm not saying that I agree, I just think thats how they would rule. And given Roberts repect for the Supreme Court, I would not be surprised to see him go over to the "wrong" side" in order to avoid a 5-4 decision on such a monumental issue.</P>


I would obviously be happy to see them overturn the mandate and then the entire bill. Its a horrible law. But I'm just not sure they will.</P>

DavenIII
03-28-2012, 05:05 PM
Don't be fooled by the nature of the questions Daven. especially from Justice Kennedy. I would tend to believe that in the end the court (by 5-4 or 6-3) will UPHOLD the individual mandate.</p>


I think they will be very reluctant to overturn an act of Congress. I would think the basis is that since the Congress has the power to regulate commerce under the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution, they will decide that all Americans are, by definition participants in the commerce of Healthcare. therefore the Congess has the power to compell US citizens to purchase insurance.</p>


I believe that the individual mandate is <u>unconstitutional,</u> but I believe the court will uphold it.</p>




But how can they say that all Americans are "by definition" participants of Health care "Insurance" it's entirely possible to not have Health Care "Insurance" but still pay for your own Health Care.

Health care insurance and health care are separate things.

I sincerely hope that at least the individual mandate is over turned because to me it seems obvious that our government should not have the ability to force it's citizens to pay for a product that they don't particular want or need.
</p>


The argument of thr administration is that Health Care insurance and "Health Care" in general are the same market. One supports the other. I just have a feeling that Kennedy is not apt to overturn an act of Congress unless there is a blatant violation of the Constitution. The argument is gray at best. </p>


I'm not saying that I agree, I just think thats how they would rule. And given Roberts repect for the Supreme Court, I would not be surprised to see him go over to the "wrong" side" in order to avoid a 5-4 decision on such a monumental issue.</p>


I would obviously be happy to see them overturn the mandate and then the entire bill. Its a horrible law. But I'm just not sure they will.</p>

I think from listening (and of course the questions they ask could mean nothing, it could all be for show) that they will override the Mandate...but that's all they will do they will leave everything else intact...which makes it even worse in the end honestly.

DavenIII
03-28-2012, 05:08 PM
The current argument is about how they will be taking away money from the states if they don't except the new plan....which is a sort of coercion, but the judges aren't buying it at all....even though I do a bit.

The states have become dependent on the federal governments help when it comes to medicare/caid etc etc.

now the fed is saying we are changing this ****, if you like it jump in, if you don't pay for it yourself...

sounds ok until you realize the states have become dependent on it and can't possibly make up the difference anymore.

The states don't have a choice, they HAVE to accept it.

Morehead State
03-28-2012, 06:23 PM
Don't be fooled by the nature of the questions Daven. especially from Justice Kennedy. I would tend to believe that in the end the court (by 5-4 or 6-3) will UPHOLD the individual mandate.</P>


I think they will be very reluctant to overturn an act of Congress. I would think the basis is that since the Congress has the power to regulate commerce under the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution, they will decide that all Americans are, by definition participants in the commerce of Healthcare. therefore the Congess has the power to compell US citizens to purchase insurance.</P>


I believe that the individual mandate is <U>unconstitutional,</U> but I believe the court will uphold it.</P>




But how can they say that all Americans are "by definition" participants of Health care "Insurance" it's entirely possible to not have Health Care "Insurance" but still pay for your own Health Care.

Health care insurance and health care are separate things.

I sincerely hope that at least the individual mandate is over turned because to me it seems obvious that our government should not have the ability to force it's citizens to pay for a product that they don't particular want or need.
</P>


The argument of thr administration is that Health Care insurance and "Health Care" in general are the same market. One supports the other. I just have a feeling that Kennedy is not apt to overturn an act of Congress unless there is a blatant violation of the Constitution. The argument is gray at best. </P>


I'm not saying that I agree, I just think thats how they would rule. And given Roberts repect for the Supreme Court, I would not be surprised to see him go over to the "wrong" side" in order to avoid a 5-4 decision on such a monumental issue.</P>


I would obviously be happy to see them overturn the mandate and then the entire bill. Its a horrible law. But I'm just not sure they will.</P>




I think from listening (and of course the questions they ask could mean nothing, it could all be for show) that they will override the Mandate...but that's all they will do they will leave everything else intact...which makes it even worse in the end honestly.
</P>


Daven...I promise you that if they find the mandate unconstitutional, they will strike down most or all of the entire law.</P>


So much of the law depends on the mandate. This is another reason they may not strike any of it down.</P>


My prediction is that the law will be upheld, 6-3. With only Scalia, Thomas and Alito dissenting.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-29-2012, 08:41 AM
yo guys my phone ****ted out yesterday and i lost all of my numbers, send me a text with your name so that I can save your numbers

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 10:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrNA7RjU91I

Anchorman sequel announced last night

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 11:09 AM
What up tards! Today is a great day!

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Miss-March-movie-f05.jpg

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 11:14 AM
Obama singing Sexy and I know it by LMFAO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=OWgO9-AIROI)

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 11:14 AM
jacobs to the 49ers.
:(

Now the only jerseys that I own where the players didnt bounce on us is my Strahan and my LT.... I almost dont want to ever buy another jersey


Same here, I got my stray and LT left.

Bounced jerseys= Shockey, Tiki, Smith, Jacobs.

I can't really blame Jacobs, he wanted to remain a Giant, they just could not make a deal work.

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 11:16 AM
Obama singing Sexy and I know it by LMFAO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OWgO9-AIROI)
Speaking of -copy of email I got today. I'm not saying it's Obama's fault, I'm just sayin:


Well, we certainly got CHANGE. But I'm still looking for the HOPE..!!

SOME WILL APPRECIATE THIS AND SOME WILL NOT.
HOWEVER, ALL OF IT IS TRUE.
After 29 months of Obama ...

Here's your change!
January 2009 TODAY % chg Source
Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S. $1.83 $3.44 84% 1
Crude oil, European Brent (barrel) $43..48 $99..02 127.7% 2
Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel) $38..74 $91..38 135.9% 2
Gold: London (per troy oz.) $853.25 $1,369.50 60.5% 2
Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL $3.56 $6.33 78.1% 2
Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL $9.66 $13..75 42.3% 2
Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb.Fob $13..37 $35..39 164.7% 2
Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall 7.6% 9.4% 23.7% 3
Unemployment rate, blacks 12.6% 15.8% 25.4% 3
Number of unemployed 11,616,000 14,485,000 24.7% 3
Number of fed. Employees 2,779,000 2,840,000 2.2% 3
Real median household income $50,112 $49,777 -0.7% 4
Number of food stamp recipients 31,983,716 43,200,878 35.1% 5
Number of unemployment benefit recipients 7,526,598 9,193,838 22.2% 6
Number of long-term unemployed 2,600,000 6,400,000 146.2% 3
Poverty rate, individuals 13.2% 14.3% 8.3% 4
People in poverty in U.S. 39,800,000 43,600,000 9.5% 4
U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings 5 9 n/a 10
Present Situation Index 29.9 23.5 -21.4% 11
Failed banks 140 164 17.1% 12
U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate 89.76 82.03 -8.6% 2
U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions 1,575.1 1,865.7 18.4% 13
U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions 8,310.9 8,852.3 6.5% 13
National debt, in trillions $10..627 $14..052 32.2% 14


Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation's history.
Over 27 times as fast. Metaphorically speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane.
27 times faster, it would be doing 7,555 MPH!
Sources:
(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor;
(7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC;
(13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 29 months -- so you'll have one year to come up with an answer. Every statement in this email is factual and directly attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS...
I WONDER HOW MANY WILL FORWARD THIS ?
"You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out."





********

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 11:21 AM
I don't know why I'm laughing, it's not funny.
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Kase-1
03-29-2012, 11:42 AM
Obama singing Sexy and I know it by LMFAO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=OWgO9-AIROI)
You love Obama, just admit it and move on. It will make life that much easier

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 11:52 AM
PALM BEACH, Fla.—NFL owners voted Wednesday to change regular-season overtime rules.

As a result, regular season and postseason overtime rules will be the same, starting with the 2012 season.

In overtime, a team that receives the opening kick cannot win the game with a field goal on its first possession. On the first possession, only a touchdown or safety will end the game.

If a team kicks a field goal on the opening possession, the opposing team will receive the ball and can win the game with a touchdown, or extend the game with a field.

If the opposing team fails to score, the team that kicked the field goal wins the game.

Once both teams have had one possession, sudden death rules apply, and the next score of any kind wins.

League executives and coaches believe the overtime rule change will lessen the importance of winning the overtime coin toss.

Also on Wednesday, NFL owners:

— Gave the replay official permission to review turnovers just as he reviews all scoring plays. However, the owners rejected the proposal to remove replays from the responsibilities of on-field referees.

— Mandated that a team will lose a down for illegally kicking a loose ball.

— Made too many men on the field a dead ball foul.

— Decided a player receiving a crack-back block is considered a defenseless player and will result in a 15-yard penalty.

Several matters were tabled until the league's spring meetings in May, including:

— Moving the trade deadline from Week 6 to Week 8.

— Increasing the offseason and training camp roster from 80 to 90.

— Allowing a player who was placed on injured reserve early in the season to return after at least an eight-week absence.

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dezzzR
03-29-2012, 11:53 AM
What up tards! Today is a great day!

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Miss-March-movie-f05.jpghorse ****. empeg is the real deal.

"sucka mah d while i **** that ***, heyy"

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 12:05 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 12:12 PM
morning, *******s.

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:12 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 12:24 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</P>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 12:27 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 12:29 PM
What up tards! Today is a great day!

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Miss-March-movie-f05.jpghorse ****. empeg is the real deal.

"sucka mah d while i **** that ***, heyy"


lmao
"sucka mah d while i **** that ***, heyy"

That's exactly what I was thinking when I posted that. hahah

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 12:30 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</P>


No one knows what actually happened. However, it would seem from what we do know that this was a serious misdeed by Zimmerman.</P>


But to say that we know exactly what happened and then to characterize it accordingly, is tremendously misguided.</P>


Remember what they all said about the Duke "rape" case. Which turned out to be complete bull****.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 12:30 PM
i just found this in part of a news article:
"""On the day of the shooting, Sanford police officials determined that they did not have enough evidence to the contrary to detain Zimmerman. Whether they were suspicious of his story would not have mattered. They would have had to produce hard evidence to the contrary. The “<SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1332995651_4>probable cause</SPAN>” criterion is derived from the Constitution and is meant to protect against unreasonable arrest."""</P>


so basically....
the kid is laying dead on the ground....the dude said he was attacked, and they were like...oh man...this sucks....well...go home, we'll sort this out.

in almost any place ever....you get arrested on scene, and wait until they clear you....</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:30 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</p>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </p>Exactly!!!!

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 12:30 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
I literally just watched the video of Zimmerman getting out of police cruiser at station. He does not have a single mark or blood on him.

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 12:32 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</p>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </p>The police dropped the ball from the beginning. It really sucks for the family.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 12:32 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</P>


No one knows what actually happened. However, it would seem from what we do know that this was a serious misdeed by Zimmerman.</P>


But to say that we know exactly what happened and then to characterize it accordingly, is tremendously misguided.</P>


Remember what they all said about the Duke "rape" case. Which turned out to be complete bull****.</P>


</P>


but at least that was handled the right way. allegations of a serious crime should not be treated lightly.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 12:33 PM
I literally just watched the video of Zimmerman getting out of police cruiser at station. He does not have a single mark or blood on him.</P>


yea i just watched/read that today also.</P>


</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:34 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case??? Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 12:38 PM
I have alot of friends with carry permits. None have ever had to use it. But i remember years ago, when my buddy got his permit that year, there was a fight about to break out at our bar, he took his gun, gave it to his fiancee, put it in her bag, told her to go to the bathroom, and then we went out to take care of business. lol
I just dont really understand alot of it...why was this guy using a gun on neighborhood watch anyway?! his job is to "observe and report", not take matters into his own hands. /facepalm

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 12:38 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</P>


No one knows what actually happened. However, it would seem from what we do know that this was a serious misdeed by Zimmerman.</P>


But to say that we know exactly what happened and then to characterize it accordingly, is tremendously misguided.</P>


Remember what they all said about the Duke "rape" case. Which turned out to be complete bull****.</P>


</P>


but at least that was handled the right way. allegations of a serious crime should not be treated lightly.</P>


</P>


It was NOT handled in the right way. There was a vidoe of one of the accused at an ATM at the exact time this woman said she was raped by him. The "overzealous" prosecutor refused to drop charges against him.</P>


That was one of the most greivous cases of prosecutorial misconduct I have ever seen.</P>


Its really interesting to me that libs are constantly shouting "innocent until proven guilty" until of course its a sympothetic victim and an accused that they don't like. Then it all changes.</P>


You can cut the hypocrasy with a knife in this tragic case. especially from guys like Al Sharpton.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:38 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</p>


No one knows what actually happened. However, it would seem from what we do know that this was a serious misdeed by Zimmerman.</p>


But to say that we know exactly what happened and then to characterize it accordingly, is tremendously misguided.</p>


Remember what they all said about the Duke "rape" case. Which turned out to be complete bull****.</p>Yea, we have trials, attorneys, and investigators that attempt to prove what is the truth and what isnt. Its innocent until proven guilty, but just because you're arrested doesnt mean you're guilty.

And nobody said they knew 'exactly' what went down, but we ALL know the details of what happened. Zimmerman saw a black kid in his development, called the cops they said to stay put, he decided to take it in his own hands and murdered an unarmed teenager, then when the cops arrived and he was holding a figurative 'smoking gun' they told him to go home

Florida is ****ED!!!!!

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 12:38 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</p>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </p>Exactly!!!!

first off, I agree with the Florida law that allows you to shoot to kill when you fear for your life, I don't see how that's a bull**** law, if you fear for your life shouldn't you be able to protect yourself? shooting someone in the leg is actually hard you know, it's not so simple...plus if they also have a gun then it's not going to do you much good.

secondly, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, why would we arrest him now and figure it out later? that goes against everything our legal system stands for.

I hate that you guys all jump into these emotional responses...it's whats wrong with people nowadays, you can't change the way a system works every time you don't like something someone did, you have to follow due process...otherwise why even have laws in the first place.

If Zimmerman is guilty then I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but until he's proven guilty I want him to be given a fair trial and I want all rules to be followed...I don't want him being treated differently just because his case made big news.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 12:40 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case??? Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
</P>


Who's exploiting it?</P>


How about Al Sharpton and the entire MSNBC network? Are you serious. This has gotten more coverage than the Healthcare case in the Supreme Court.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 12:41 PM
Oh, and absoulutely the media twists it whatever way they see fit.
Did you guys notice the pictures they used at first? Trayvon, looking like a normal respectable kid....Zimmerman looking like he's in a prison photo, kinda scary looking.

Then 2 nights ago, im watching tv, same news station, and they show a photo of Zimmerman wearing dress clothes, big smile on his face, and then show THEE MOST ridiculous picture of Trayvon, wearing a grill, this time it'shim looking kinda thuggish.
wow guys....way to stay consistent

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:42 PM
I have alot of friends with carry permits. None have ever had to use it. But i remember years ago, when my buddy got his permit that year, there was a fight about to break out at our bar, he took his gun, gave it to his fiancee, put it in her bag, told her to go to the bathroom, and then we went out to take care of business. lol
I just dont really understand alot of it...why was this guy using a gun on neighborhood watch anyway?! his job is to "observe and report", not take matters into his own hands. /facepalmI have a gun too but i dont carry it around like a damned redneck afraid that 'Obama is gonna go gun control crazy'. Its for home protection, not street protection, or protection of my yard, its for someone that attempts to harm me and my family. Simply put if you break in the last thing you're gonna hear is my shotgun ****ing, but if you're menacing out in the street Im not pulling out the bop gun, thats what cops are for.

Even if you're on neighborhood watch, there are PLENTY of other weapons to use other than a gun

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 12:43 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 12:45 PM
first off, I agree with the Florida law that allows you to shoot to kill when you fear for your life, I don't see how that's a bull**** law, if you fear for your life shouldn't you be able to protect yourself? shooting someone in the leg is actually hard you know, it's not so simple...plus if they also have a gun then it's not going to do you much good.

secondly, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, why would we arrest him now and figure it out later? that goes against everything our legal system stands for.

I hate that you guys all jump into these emotional responses...it's whats wrong with people nowadays, you can't change the way a system works every time you don't like something someone did, you have to follow due process...otherwise why even have laws in the first place.

If Zimmerman is guilty then I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but until he's proven guilty I want him to be given a fair trial and I want all rules to be followed...I don't want him being treated differently just because his case made big news.
</P>


Being arrested doesnt mean youre guilty. Zimmerman is the only suspect...and witnesses know he was the only one there. So, youre saying this shouldnt even be a case? we jsut assume this is self defense? Even if he goes to trial, it doesnt mean he's guilty. But there needs to be SOMETHING done.

I'm just saying....if there was a killing on my block, and i was at the scene, even if ppl said i was attacked and acted in self defense, i would still be arrested until the investigation was over, or until their was a hearing to set bail.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:46 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</p>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </p>Exactly!!!!

first off, I agree with the Florida law that allows you to shoot to kill when you fear for your life, I don't see how that's a bull**** law, if you fear for your life shouldn't you be able to protect yourself? shooting someone in the leg is actually hard you know, it's not so simple...plus if they also have a gun then it's not going to do you much good.

secondly, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, why would we arrest him now and figure it out later? that goes against everything our legal system stands for.

I hate that you guys all jump into these emotional responses...it's whats wrong with people nowadays, you can't change the way a system works every time you don't like something someone did, you have to follow due process...otherwise why even have laws in the first place.

If Zimmerman is guilty then I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but until he's proven guilty I want him to be given a fair trial and I want all rules to be followed...I don't want him being treated differently just because his case made big news.
Innocent til proven guilty applies ONLY to trials, not to arrests

And you really agree with Florida's law!?!?! Well I think you're threatening my way of life, does that mean that I can drive upstate and murder you???

So far Zimmerman cant get a fair trial, cause you cant go to trial for a crime unless you're arrested and according to you he shouldnt be arrested and in turn he shouldnt go to trial for a crime he obviously comitted??

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 12:46 PM
I have alot of friends with carry permits. None have ever had to use it. But i remember years ago, when my buddy got his permit that year, there was a fight about to break out at our bar, he took his gun, gave it to his fiancee, put it in her bag, told her to go to the bathroom, and then we went out to take care of business. lol
I just dont really understand alot of it...why was this guy using a gun on neighborhood watch anyway?! his job is to "observe and report", not take matters into his own hands. /facepalmI have a gun too but i dont carry it around like a damned redneck afraid that 'Obama is gonna go gun control crazy'. Its for home protection, not street protection, or protection of my yard, its for someone that attempts to harm me and my family. Simply put if you break in the last thing you're gonna hear is my shotgun ****ing, but if you're menacing out in the street Im not pulling out the bop gun, thats what cops are for.

Even if you're on neighborhood watch, there are PLENTY of other weapons to use other than a gun
</P>


Based on what we all "think" we know, this guy seems like a complete scumbag and will probably spend a long time in jail.</P>


BUT</P>


We don't know a lot about it yet. it could very well be different than we think. Thats why jumping the gun is a huge mistake.</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 12:49 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</P>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </P>


Exactly!!!!

first off, I agree with the Florida law that allows you to shoot to kill when you fear for your life, I don't see how that's a bull**** law, if you fear for your life shouldn't you be able to protect yourself? shooting someone in the leg is actually hard you know, it's not so simple...plus if they also have a gun then it's not going to do you much good.

secondly, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, why would we arrest him now and figure it out later? that goes against everything our legal system stands for.

I hate that you guys all jump into these emotional responses...it's whats wrong with people nowadays, you can't change the way a system works every time you don't like something someone did, you have to follow due process...otherwise why even have laws in the first place.

If Zimmerman is guilty then I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but until he's proven guilty I want him to be given a fair trial and I want all rules to be followed...I don't want him being treated differently just because his case made big news.
Innocent til proven guilty applies ONLY to trials, not to arrests

And you really agree with Florida's law!?!?! Well I think you're threatening my way of life, does that mean that I can drive upstate and murder you???

So far Zimmerman cant get a fair trial, cause you cant go to trial for a crime unless you're arrested and according to you he shouldnt be arrested and in turn he shouldnt go to trial for a crime he obviously comitted??
</P>


You are right Kase. But they have convicted this guy already in the court of public opinion.</P>


It seems that you have as well.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:50 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:51 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</p>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </p>


Exactly!!!!

first off, I agree with the Florida law that allows you to shoot to kill when you fear for your life, I don't see how that's a bull**** law, if you fear for your life shouldn't you be able to protect yourself? shooting someone in the leg is actually hard you know, it's not so simple...plus if they also have a gun then it's not going to do you much good.

secondly, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, why would we arrest him now and figure it out later? that goes against everything our legal system stands for.

I hate that you guys all jump into these emotional responses...it's whats wrong with people nowadays, you can't change the way a system works every time you don't like something someone did, you have to follow due process...otherwise why even have laws in the first place.

If Zimmerman is guilty then I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but until he's proven guilty I want him to be given a fair trial and I want all rules to be followed...I don't want him being treated differently just because his case made big news.
Innocent til proven guilty applies ONLY to trials, not to arrests

And you really agree with Florida's law!?!?! Well I think you're threatening my way of life, does that mean that I can drive upstate and murder you???

So far Zimmerman cant get a fair trial, cause you cant go to trial for a crime unless you're arrested and according to you he shouldnt be arrested and in turn he shouldnt go to trial for a crime he obviously comitted??
</p>


You are right Kase. But they have convicted this guy already in the court of public opinion.</p>


It seems that you have as well.</p>Dont kid yourself, public opinion doesnt mean tish!!!!

I have because its painfull obvious what happened, and its obvious that you have your opinion on the case as well, does that mean you're right???

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!!!!

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 12:53 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:54 PM
I'm just saying....if there was a killing on my block, and i was at the scene, even if ppl said i was attacked and acted in self defense, i would still be arrested until the investigation was over, or until their was a hearing to set bail.</p> No matter if you shot a black, white, asian, indian guy you would be going to jail that night and you would be getting processed. Even if you were 100% in the right like someone broke into your house to rob you and you shot them (which is legal in NY) you probably would never see trial, but they would arrest you just to make sure the correct steps were taken. You arrest the suspect in the case of the incident.

They arrest first and then have the attorneys, prosecutors, and investigators prove if the suspect is guilty or innocent

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 12:55 PM
Innocent til proven guilty applies ONLY to trials, not to arrests

And you really agree with Florida's law!?!?! Well I think you're threatening my way of life, does that mean that I can drive upstate and murder you???

So far Zimmerman cant get a fair trial, cause you cant go to trial for a crime unless you're arrested and according to you he shouldnt be arrested and in turn he shouldnt go to trial for a crime he obviously comitted??


This will eventually be a trial won't it, I don't understand your points on arresting him to get him off the street, it doesn't get him off the street he will end up paying bail and being back there anyhow, let the detectives do their job, find out whether it's even worth arresting him or not, they need to come up with charges and they likely don't know what to charge him with yet...if they charge him with the wrong thing then they may lose the trial.....let them do the right thing...there is no need to rush and get it wrong.

And yes I do agree with Florida's law, If I feel my life is in danger or my families life is in danger I would like to be able to use lethal force to end that threat....

do you believe your life is in imminent danger because of my existence? if so shoot me I guess...but good luck proving you thought I was going to kill you when it took you an hour+ to get here to kill me without my provocation.

The other side of the coin is the problem you are only looking at it one way Kase, what happens when someone breaks into your house and you catch him in the act of stealing your ****, he see's you points a gun at you, you can either run, and risk him chasing after you shooting you down from behind, or in florida, you can get your gun and shoot him first....

Yeah I'll take Florida...I'd like to be able to protect myself and my family thanks.

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 12:57 PM
I have alot of friends with carry permits. None have ever had to use it. But i remember years ago, when my buddy got his permit that year, there was a fight about to break out at our bar, he took his gun, gave it to his fiancee, put it in her bag, told her to go to the bathroom, and then we went out to take care of business. lol
I just dont really understand alot of it...why was this guy using a gun on neighborhood watch anyway?! his job is to "observe and report", not take matters into his own hands. /facepalmI have a gun too but i dont carry it around like a damned redneck afraid that 'Obama is gonna go gun control crazy'.* Its for home protection, not street protection, or protection of my yard, its for someone that attempts to harm me and my family. Simply put if you break in the last thing you're gonna hear is my shotgun ****ing, but if you're menacing out in the street Im not pulling out the bop gun, thats what cops are for.

Even if you're on neighborhood watch, there are PLENTY of other weapons to use other than a gun
</P>


Based on what we all "think" we know, this guy seems like a complete scumbag and will probably spend a long time in jail.</P>


BUT</P>


We don't know a lot about it yet.* it could very well be different than we think.* Thats why jumping the gun is a huge mistake.</P>jumping the gun---nice pun

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 12:57 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</p>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</p>Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it

What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 12:58 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</P>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </P>


Exactly!!!!

first off, I agree with the Florida law that allows you to shoot to kill when you fear for your life, I don't see how that's a bull**** law, if you fear for your life shouldn't you be able to protect yourself? shooting someone in the leg is actually hard you know, it's not so simple...plus if they also have a gun then it's not going to do you much good.

secondly, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, why would we arrest him now and figure it out later? that goes against everything our legal system stands for.

I hate that you guys all jump into these emotional responses...it's whats wrong with people nowadays, you can't change the way a system works every time you don't like something someone did, you have to follow due process...otherwise why even have laws in the first place.

If Zimmerman is guilty then I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but until he's proven guilty I want him to be given a fair trial and I want all rules to be followed...I don't want him being treated differently just because his case made big news.
Innocent til proven guilty applies ONLY to trials, not to arrests

And you really agree with Florida's law!?!?! Well I think you're threatening my way of life, does that mean that I can drive upstate and murder you???

So far Zimmerman cant get a fair trial, cause you cant go to trial for a crime unless you're arrested and according to you he shouldnt be arrested and in turn he shouldnt go to trial for a crime he obviously comitted??
</P>


You are right Kase. But they have convicted this guy already in the court of public opinion.</P>


It seems that you have as well.</P>


Dont kid yourself, public opinion doesnt mean tish!!!!

I have because its painfull obvious what happened, and its obvious that you have your opinion on the case as well, does that mean you're right???

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!!!!
</P>


If I had to choose I would say that the guy followed him, confronted him and then shot him during a scuffle. Thats at least manslaughter, if not worse.</P>


But I can't say that I know what so many out there presume to know. No one really knows what happened except these two people, and one of them is dead.</P>


This is exactly what happened in the Duke case. everybody thought they <U>knew</U> exactly what happened. MSNBC was on the scene along with Rev. Al and Jesse Jackson. Rich white preppies and a black victim. The nation was in outrage. these kids were publicly scorned and afraid to leave their houses.</P>


And they were all proven absolutely innocent.</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 12:59 PM
Dont kid yourself, public opinion doesnt mean tish!!!!

I have because its painfull obvious what happened, and its obvious that you have your opinion on the case as well, does that mean you're right???

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!!!!


Public opinion is sometimes more important then anything else.

you are jumping to conclusions, I personally do not have an opinion on the case....but you of course will say I do...because you have already made your decision....and you hate it that I'm willing to let the system go through it's process before I make my decision on what my opinion is.

I think that's all Morehead is saying to...I don't think he has an opinion on it yet...there just isn't enough information yet.

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 01:01 PM
Innocent til proven guilty applies ONLY to trials, not to arrests

And you really agree with Florida's law!?!?! Well I think you're threatening my way of life, does that mean that I can drive upstate and murder you???

So far Zimmerman cant get a fair trial, cause you cant go to trial for a crime unless you're arrested and according to you he shouldnt be arrested and in turn he shouldnt go to trial for a crime he obviously comitted??


This will eventually be a trial won't it, I don't understand your points on arresting him to get him off the street, it doesn't get him off the street he will end up paying bail and being back there anyhow, let the detectives do their job, find out whether it's even worth arresting him or not, they need to come up with charges and they likely don't know what to charge him with yet...if they charge him with the wrong thing then they may lose the trial.....let them do the right thing...there is no need to rush and get it wrong.

And yes I do agree with Florida's law, If I feel my life is in danger or my families life is in danger I would like to be able to use lethal force to end that threat....

do you believe your life is in imminent danger because of my existence? if so shoot me I guess...but good luck proving you thought I was going to kill you when it took you an hour+ to get here to kill me without my provocation.

The other side of the coin is the problem you are only looking at it one way Kase, what happens when someone breaks into your house and you catch him in the act of stealing your ****, he see's you points a gun at you, you can either run, and risk him chasing after you shooting you down from behind, or in florida, you can get your gun and shoot him first....

Yeah I'll take Florida...I'd like to be able to protect myself and my family thanks.
Obvious you dont understand the law either, you CANT GO TO TRIAL UNLESS YOU'RE ARRESTED!!!!!

Um Daven if someone breaks into your house in NY you can legally shoot them dead on the spot, if they run you cant chase them down in the street and shoot them, its only within your home. You protect your house and family, the police protect the streets

Ill take NY where I wont be murdered because Im wearing a hoodie

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 01:04 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</p>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </p>


Exactly!!!!

first off, I agree with the Florida law that allows you to shoot to kill when you fear for your life, I don't see how that's a bull**** law, if you fear for your life shouldn't you be able to protect yourself? shooting someone in the leg is actually hard you know, it's not so simple...plus if they also have a gun then it's not going to do you much good.

secondly, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, why would we arrest him now and figure it out later? that goes against everything our legal system stands for.

I hate that you guys all jump into these emotional responses...it's whats wrong with people nowadays, you can't change the way a system works every time you don't like something someone did, you have to follow due process...otherwise why even have laws in the first place.

If Zimmerman is guilty then I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but until he's proven guilty I want him to be given a fair trial and I want all rules to be followed...I don't want him being treated differently just because his case made big news.
Innocent til proven guilty applies ONLY to trials, not to arrests

And you really agree with Florida's law!?!?! Well I think you're threatening my way of life, does that mean that I can drive upstate and murder you???

So far Zimmerman cant get a fair trial, cause you cant go to trial for a crime unless you're arrested and according to you he shouldnt be arrested and in turn he shouldnt go to trial for a crime he obviously comitted??
</p>


You are right Kase. But they have convicted this guy already in the court of public opinion.</p>


It seems that you have as well.</p>


Dont kid yourself, public opinion doesnt mean tish!!!!

I have because its painfull obvious what happened, and its obvious that you have your opinion on the case as well, does that mean you're right???

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!!!!
</p>


If I had to choose I would say that the guy followed him, confronted him and then shot him during a scuffle. Thats at least manslaughter, if not worse.</p>


But I can't say that I know what so many out there presume to know. No one really knows what happened except these two people, and one of them is dead.</p>


This is exactly what happened in the Duke case. everybody thought they <u>knew</u> exactly what happened. MSNBC was on the scene along with Rev. Al and Jesse Jackson. Rich white preppies and a black victim. The nation was in outrage. these kids were publicly scorned and afraid to leave their houses.</p>


And they were all proven absolutely innocent.</p>Im a working class, blue collar Irish-American living in a blue collar diverse neigborhood, neither a rich white preppy or a black victim.

Cops told him to stay put, dont approach the person, and dont start a confrontation, all of that is on the 911 tape its not us 'liberal' twisting the truth

Sounds like you think you know exactly what happened, but in actuallity me and you know the same as everyone else except for Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 01:06 PM
Dont kid yourself, public opinion doesnt mean tish!!!!

I have because its painfull obvious what happened, and its obvious that you have your opinion on the case as well, does that mean you're right???

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!!!!


Public opinion is sometimes more important then anything else.

you are jumping to conclusions, I personally do not have an opinion on the case....but you of course will say I do...because you have already made your decision....and you hate it that I'm willing to let the system go through it's process before I make my decision on what my opinion is.

I think that's all Morehead is saying to...I don't think he has an opinion on it yet...there just isn't enough information yet.
You're kidding right??!?!! Have you or anyone you know ever had run ins with the law, public opinion doesnt mean a damned thing

The system cant go through the process until he gets arrested, before we know it this crime will be past the statute of limitations and he'll walk free

...Then you and Morehead can have your party

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 01:07 PM
I gotta take a shower and go grocery shopping, ill be back in an hr or so to pick this back up

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 01:10 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</p>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</p>Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<u>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</u>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 01:13 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it

What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
</P>


Ask and yee shall receive.</P>


http://video.foxnews.com/v/1529334433001/black-panthers-vow-to-bring-george-zimmerman-to-justice</P>


</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 01:18 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
</P>


the whole new "eye witness information" about how the kid ran after him, beat him, etc....yet there are no wounds or bruises found on Zimmerman

Unfortunately, Florida's laws are bull**** and allow you to shoot to kill when you fear your life is threatened.
I also dont understand why he hasnt been arrested. Arrest now...figure it out later. Regardless of self defense or not, he killed a man. you cant just let a guy walk around while you try to sort things out. </P>


Exactly!!!!

first off, I agree with the Florida law that allows you to shoot to kill when you fear for your life, I don't see how that's a bull**** law, if you fear for your life shouldn't you be able to protect yourself? shooting someone in the leg is actually hard you know, it's not so simple...plus if they also have a gun then it's not going to do you much good.

secondly, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, why would we arrest him now and figure it out later? that goes against everything our legal system stands for.

I hate that you guys all jump into these emotional responses...it's whats wrong with people nowadays, you can't change the way a system works every time you don't like something someone did, you have to follow due process...otherwise why even have laws in the first place.

If Zimmerman is guilty then I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but until he's proven guilty I want him to be given a fair trial and I want all rules to be followed...I don't want him being treated differently just because his case made big news.
Innocent til proven guilty applies ONLY to trials, not to arrests

And you really agree with Florida's law!?!?! Well I think you're threatening my way of life, does that mean that I can drive upstate and murder you???

So far Zimmerman cant get a fair trial, cause you cant go to trial for a crime unless you're arrested and according to you he shouldnt be arrested and in turn he shouldnt go to trial for a crime he obviously comitted??
</P>


You are right Kase. But they have convicted this guy already in the court of public opinion.</P>


It seems that you have as well.</P>


Dont kid yourself, public opinion doesnt mean tish!!!!

I have because its painfull obvious what happened, and its obvious that you have your opinion on the case as well, does that mean you're right???

ABSOLUTLEY NOT!!!!
</P>


If I had to choose I would say that the guy followed him, confronted him and then shot him during a scuffle. Thats at least manslaughter, if not worse.</P>


But I can't say that I know what so many out there presume to know. No one really knows what happened except these two people, and one of them is dead.</P>


This is exactly what happened in the Duke case. everybody thought they <U>knew</U> exactly what happened. MSNBC was on the scene along with Rev. Al and Jesse Jackson. Rich white preppies and a black victim. The nation was in outrage. these kids were publicly scorned and afraid to leave their houses.</P>


And they were all proven absolutely innocent.</P>


Im a working class, blue collar Irish-American living in a blue collar diverse neigborhood, neither a rich white preppy or a black victim.

Cops told him to stay put, dont approach the person, and dont start a confrontation, all of that is on the 911 tape its not us 'liberal' twisting the truth

Sounds like you think you know exactly what happened, but in actuallity me and you know the same as everyone else except for Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin
</P>


I DON'T know what happened....And neither do you.</P>


And by the way, the 911 operator asked if he was following the kid. He said yes and they said "We don't need you to do that". Thats not telling him to stay put".</P>


As i have already said, I suspect it went down in a way where this guy Zimmerman is a murderer. Thast my guess based on what I've heard. And I have heard about this case non stop for days and days.</P>


But I refuse to do what so many others are doing. that is saying that they already "know" what happened.</P>


</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 01:19 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U>* Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american* wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther)* all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you.* And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal.* Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left.* the people who are wooping up all this emotion.* You mention the idiot on the floor of the House.* How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it

What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
</P>


Ask and yee shall receive.</P>


http://video.foxnews.com/v/1529334433001/black-panthers-vow-to-bring-george-zimmerman-to-justice</P>


*</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 01:20 PM
I'm just saying....if there was a killing on my block, and i was at the scene, even if ppl said i was attacked and acted in self defense, i would still be arrested until the investigation was over, or until their was a hearing to set bail.</P>


No matter if you shot a black, white, asian, indian guy you would be going to jail that night and you would be getting processed. Even if you were 100% in the right like someone broke into your house to rob you and you shot them (which is legal in NY) you probably would never see trial, but they would arrest you just to make sure the correct steps were taken. You arrest the suspect in the case of the incident.

They arrest first and then have the attorneys, prosecutors, and investigators prove if the suspect is guilty or innocent
</P>


exactly. This seems like the most ridiculously obvious thing EVER.</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 01:22 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</p>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</p>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it

What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
</p>


Ask and yee shall receive.</p>


http://video.foxnews.com/v/1529334433001/black-panthers-vow-to-bring-george-zimmerman-to-justice</p>


</p>A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 01:23 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it

What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
</P>


Oh and BTW..."Obama blasting" is fun. You should try it. Its really easy. there is just so much to go after. The only problem is knowing where to start.</P>


Of course I'm sure that you never did any "Bush blasting".............Did you.</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 01:24 PM
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JPizzack
03-29-2012, 01:24 PM
A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI
</P>


lol so? those people are idiots.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 01:26 PM
How do you guys feel about drafting Mike Adams, the tackle from OSU if he falls to us?
I also like Orson Charles, the TE from UGA.
That's not a biased pick, its just that he is one of the best TE available.

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 01:33 PM
A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI
</p>


lol so? those people are idiots.</p>Exactly my point!! People are using this situation for their own personal benefits. Again if Tray was white, would a bunch of african americans storm a walgreens?? NO. Would the Miami Heat wear hoodies, NO. Would Rush get on the House floor wearing a hoodie? NO. Would Jessie, Al, Spike Lee be involved? NO. Even the Ex leader or whatever of the NAACP said they were just doing it for publicity. Its a double standard.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 01:35 PM
A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI
</P>


lol so? those people are idiots.</P>


Exactly my point!! People are using this situation for their own personal benefits. Again if Tray was white, would a bunch of african americans storm a walgreens?? NO. Would the Miami Heat wear hoodies, NO. Would Rush get on the House floor wearing a hoodie? NO. Would Jessie, Al, Spike Lee be involved? NO. Even the Ex leader or whatever of the NAACP said they were just doing it for publicity. Its a double standard.
</P>


benefit? lol, that doesnt make any sense.....stupid people are stupid regardless of what cause they decide they want to stand for.
Do you honestly think that those are the kind of people who wouldnt rob a walgreens anyway? ***** you crazy. who gives a ****. **** those people.</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 01:37 PM
How do you guys feel about drafting Mike Adams, the tackle from OSU if he falls to us?
I also like Orson Charles, the TE from UGA.
That's not a biased pick, its just that he is one of the best TE available.I dont think well go tightend early. hopefully a o lineman, I would like a big corner too.

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 01:39 PM
A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI
</p>


lol so? those people are idiots.</p>


Exactly my point!! People are using this situation for their own personal benefits. Again if Tray was white, would a bunch of african americans storm a walgreens?? NO. Would the Miami Heat wear hoodies, NO. Would Rush get on the House floor wearing a hoodie? NO. Would Jessie, Al, Spike Lee be involved? NO. Even the Ex leader or whatever of the NAACP said they were just doing it for publicity. Its a double standard.
</p>


benefit? lol, that doesnt make any sense.....stupid people are stupid regardless of what cause they decide they want to stand for.
<u>Do you honestly think that those are the kind of people who wouldnt rob a walgreens anyway? </u>***** you crazy. who gives a ****. **** those people.</p>What exactly are you implying pizz???[:)] hahaha
Regardless, now they all have an excuse.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 01:41 PM
How do you guys feel about drafting Mike Adams, the tackle from OSU if he falls to us?
I also like Orson Charles, the TE from UGA.
That's not a biased pick, its just that he is one of the best TE available.I dont think well go tightend early. hopefully a o lineman, I would like a big corner too.
</P>


if we go OL, there are 2 guards who are awesome, but will likely go earlier than we can draft.
David DeCastro, Stanford
Cordy Glenn, UGA</P>


There's a handful ofOTs who could go first roundalso</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 01:43 PM
A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI
</P>


lol so? those people are idiots.</P>


Exactly my point!! People are using this situation for their own personal benefits. Again if Tray was white, would a bunch of african americans storm a walgreens?? NO. Would the Miami Heat wear hoodies, NO. Would Rush get on the House floor wearing a hoodie? NO. Would Jessie, Al, Spike Lee be involved? NO. Even the Ex leader or whatever of the NAACP said they were just doing it for publicity. Its a double standard.
</P>


benefit? lol, that doesnt make any sense.....stupid people are stupid regardless of what cause they decide they want to stand for.
<U>Do you honestly think that those are the kind of people who wouldnt rob a walgreens anyway? </U>***** you crazy. who gives a ****. **** those people.</P>


What exactly are you implying pizz???[:)] hahaha
Regardless, now they all have an excuse.
</P>


nothing....
why is it an excuse?!?!
dude.....either your the kind of person who would rob a store...or youre not....there's no fine line of ppl waiting for a reason that they somehow think justifies robbing one &gt;.&lt;</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 01:45 PM
There's 1 mock that has us drafting the RB from Virginia Tech in the first round....yea i dont see that happening lol

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 01:56 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U>* Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american* wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther)* all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you.* And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal.* Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left.* the people who are wooping up all this emotion.* You mention the idiot on the floor of the House.* How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it

What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
</P>


Oh and BTW..."Obama blasting" is fun.* You should try it.* Its really easy.* there is just so much to go after.* The only problem is knowing where to start.</P>


Of course I'm sure that you never did any "Bush blasting".............Did you.</P>I don't want to be labeled as a Obama blaster...The stats that I posted simply show that things are not improving. This country should have someone in place who can give us improvement.

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 02:08 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:08 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it

What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
</P>


Oh and BTW..."Obama blasting" is fun. You should try it. Its really easy. there is just so much to go after. The only problem is knowing where to start.</P>


Of course I'm sure that you never did any "Bush blasting".............Did you.</P>


I don't want to be labeled as a Obama blaster...The stats that I posted simply show that things are not improving. This country should have someone in place who can give us improvement.</P>


He's a cool guy with a cool walkwho sings Al Green songs.</P>


All the requirements libs have for a President.</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:10 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</P>


I don't see any chance of that.</P>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 02:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ayLQb4W-os&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G25e06a6FUAAAAAAABAA

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 02:14 PM
MegaMillions is up to 540 million. Half a billion plus!

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:14 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</P>


I don't see any chance of that.</P>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</P>


</P>


I'd say there's a .00001% chance RG3 goes to Indy.
I'd say the odds are still the same even if Luck told the Colts to go **** themselves, pissed on the GMs desk, and then banged the owner's daughter.....they'd still draft him. lol</P>

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 02:15 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton* can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</P>


I don't see any chance of that.</P>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</P>I would agree, def be an upset for that to switch.

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 02:16 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton* can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</P>


I don't see any chance of that.</P>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</P>


</P>


I'd say there's a .00001% chance RG3 goes to Indy.
I'd say the odds are still the same even if Luck told the Colts to go **** themselves, pissed on the GMs desk, and then banged the owner's daughter.....they'd still draft him. lol</P>Thanks for that visual Pizz.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:17 PM
MegaMillions is up to 540 million. Half a billion plus!</P>


yea im gonna pick up a handful of tix after work today. it went up 40 already? jeez!</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 02:17 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</p>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</p>Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<u>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</u>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.
Ive seen ZERO racial tension on this issue, people of all ethnicities are agreeing on this one. Its not like its a black vs white or black vs spanish issue. Look at the rallies theyve been having its people of all colors behind the same cause

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:18 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</P>


I don't see any chance of that.</P>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</P>


</P>


I'd say there's a .00001% chance RG3 goes to Indy.
I'd say the odds are still the same even if Luck told the Colts to go **** themselves, pissed on the GMs desk, and then banged the owner's daughter.....they'd still draft him. lol</P>


Thanks for that visual Pizz.</P>


any time pal....i just thought of some disrespectful things....those were among the tops i thought of. lol</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:19 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<U>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</U>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.
Ive seen ZERO racial tension on this issue, people of all ethnicities are agreeing on this one. Its not like its a black vs white or black vs spanish issue. Look at the rallies theyve been having its people of all colors behind the same cause
</P>


I'm sorry..........What????</P>

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 02:20 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton* can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</P>


I don't see any chance of that.</P>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</P>


</P>


I'd say there's a .00001% chance RG3 goes to Indy.
I'd say the odds are still the same even if Luck told the Colts to go **** themselves, pissed on the GMs desk, and then banged the owner's daughter.....they'd still draft him. lol</P>


Thanks for that visual Pizz.</P>


any time pal....i just thought of some disrespectful things....those were among the tops i thought of. lol</P>Very well done

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:20 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</P>


I don't see any chance of that.</P>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</P>


</P>


I'd say there's a .00001% chance RG3 goes to Indy.
I'd say the odds are still the same even if Luck told the Colts to go **** themselves, pissed on the GMs desk, and then banged the owner's daughter.....they'd still draft him. lol</P>


</P>


As I just said about the chances of our drafting a WR in the first round in another thread.</P>


About one in a million.</P>

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 02:22 PM
MegaMillions is up to 540 million. Half a billion plus!</P>


yea im gonna pick up a handful of tix after work today. it went up 40 already? jeez!</P>Mega Millions sets this up to their advantage. Am I correct with this? If the winning numbers do not come up...then they keep selling and the pot keeps increasing until the numbers come up? Am I to believe that mega millions has no control over the winning numbers coming up or not coming up? It's clearly to their advantage if the numbers don't come up. I don't know the specifics, regulations etc.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:25 PM
</P>


wow....yea </P>


it doesnt really surprise me that people are that ridiculous. I think our immediate need is OL.
Our running game needs to be SIGNIFICANTLY better....any improvements to the OL is a step in the right direction.</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:26 PM
MegaMillions is up to 540 million. Half a billion plus!</P>


yea im gonna pick up a handful of tix after work today. it went up 40 already? jeez!</P>


Mega Millions sets this up to their advantage. Am I correct with this? If the winning numbers do not come up...then they keep selling and the pot keeps increasing until the numbers come up? Am I to believe that mega millions has no control over the winning numbers coming up or not coming up? It's clearly to their advantage if the numbers don't come up. I don't know the specifics, regulations etc.</P>


Running lotteries is the most horrific and gutless thing that governments do.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 02:28 PM
A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI
...<font color="#FF0000">Because high school kids always know the best ways to protest</font>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:28 PM
MegaMillions is up to 540 million. Half a billion plus!</P>


yea im gonna pick up a handful of tix after work today. it went up 40 already? jeez!</P>


Mega Millions sets this up to their advantage. Am I correct with this? If the winning numbers do not come up...then they keep selling and the pot keeps increasing until the numbers come up? Am I to believe that mega millions has no control over the winning numbers coming up or not coming up? It's clearly to their advantage if the numbers don't come up. I don't know the specifics, regulations etc.</P>


well, there's no real advantage to anyone....
yea, the number increases based on ticket sales, and continues to do so until someone hits. There are smaller payouts, but nothing that hits the overall pot very hard.

Mega millions is randomly generated numbers from the machines they use....no sequence is ever used twice in the same drawing, and the system resets the morning of the drawing in order to generate another random number.
what do you mean by regulations?</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 02:30 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</p>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</p>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<u>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</u>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.
Ive seen ZERO racial tension on this issue, people of all ethnicities are agreeing on this one. Its not like its a black vs white or black vs spanish issue. Look at the rallies theyve been having its people of all colors behind the same cause
</p>


I'm sorry..........What????</p>Sorry man you gotta turn off the ultra conservative media outlets you use and look at with a non-biased view and people of all races are up in arms about this, contrary to what fox news and rush limbaugh tell you

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 02:31 PM
MegaMillions is up to 540 million. Half a billion plus!</P>


yea im gonna pick up a handful of tix after work today. it went up 40 already? jeez!</P>


Mega Millions sets this up to their advantage. Am I correct with this? If the winning numbers do not come up...then they keep selling and the pot keeps increasing until the numbers come up? Am I to believe that mega millions has no control over the winning numbers coming up or not coming up? It's clearly to their advantage if the numbers don't come up. I don't know the specifics, regulations etc.</P>


well, there's no real advantage to anyone....
yea, the number increases based on ticket sales, and continues to do so until someone hits. There are smaller payouts, but nothing that hits the overall pot very hard.

Mega millions is randomly generated numbers from the machines they use....no sequence is ever used twice in the same drawing, and the system resets the morning of the drawing in order to generate another random number.
what do you mean by regulations?</P>I was thinking there must be some type of regulations that the machines must adhere to. Inspectors checking the machines for proper calibration and insuring that someone could not prevent certain numbers from appearing or making other numbers appear?

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 02:31 PM
A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI
</p>


lol so? those people are idiots.</p>Exactly my point!! People are using this situation for their own personal benefits. Again if Tray was white, would a bunch of african americans storm a walgreens?? NO. Would the Miami Heat wear hoodies, NO. Would Rush get on the House floor wearing a hoodie? NO. Would Jessie, Al, Spike Lee be involved? NO. Even the Ex leader or whatever of the NAACP said they were just doing it for publicity. Its a double standard.
You're so caught up in the 'double standard' you're totally neglecting the issue at hand, its kind of embarassing

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 02:31 PM
http://www.aol.com/video/dog-goes-berserk-when-soldier-owner-comes-home/517319587/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D147610 (http://www.aol.com/video/dog-goes-berserk-when-soldier-owner-comes-home/517319587/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D147610)

I love these videos, theres one with a great dane jumping on his owner who just returned. He was taller than his owner on his hind legs.

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 02:32 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</p>


I don't see any chance of that.</p>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</p>


</p>


I'd say there's a .00001% chance RG3 goes to Indy.
I'd say the odds are still the same even if Luck told the Colts to go **** themselves, pissed on the GMs desk, and then banged the owner's daughter.....they'd still draft him. lol</p>


</p>


As I just said about the chances of our drafting a WR in the first round in another thread.</p>


About one in a million.</p>Stop that, we're not allowed to agree today!!!!

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:34 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<U>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</U>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.
Ive seen ZERO racial tension on this issue, people of all ethnicities are agreeing on this one. Its not like its a black vs white or black vs spanish issue. Look at the rallies theyve been having its people of all colors behind the same cause
</P>


I'm sorry..........What????</P>


Sorry man you gotta turn off the ultra conservative media outlets you use and look at with a non-biased view and people of all races are up in arms about this, contrary to what fox news and rush limbaugh tell you
</P>


I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.</P>


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</P>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</P>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</P>

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 02:34 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad"

Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life.

Dream Baby, Dream.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:35 PM
I really wouldnt be suprised if the Colts go for RG3 over Luck. Even though I dont think qbs like RG3, Vick, Newton can win championships, his numbers are just as good as Lucks and he has over 2000 yards and 32 rushing tds. I think rg3 is the better option.
</P>


I don't see any chance of that.</P>


The first two picks (Luck to Colts, RG III to the Skins) are etched in stone.</P>


</P>


I'd say there's a .00001% chance RG3 goes to Indy.
I'd say the odds are still the same even if Luck told the Colts to go **** themselves, pissed on the GMs desk, and then banged the owner's daughter.....they'd still draft him. lol</P>


</P>


As I just said about the chances of our drafting a WR in the first round in another thread.</P>


About one in a million.</P>


Stop that, we're not allowed to agree today!!!!
</P>


I love me some Kase no matter what we agree or disagree on.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:36 PM
I was thinking there must be some type of regulations that the machines must adhere to. Inspectors checking the machines for proper calibration and insuring that someone could not prevent certain numbers from appearing or making other numbers appear?

Only the state has access to how the things actually work.
I'm not really sure how alot of the system works.
The way it clearly advantages the government is that they make money off the sales, and can make money FROM the money they stockpile....

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:37 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:40 PM
I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</P>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</P>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</P>


</P>


I think when Kase was referring to public opinion, i think he MEANT the likes of Al Sharpton, and Jackson, because nobody in their right mind actually gives a damn what those *******s say.
Everyone is racist, whether VERY, or just a little bit....it's everywhere.</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 02:41 PM
A bunch of Trayvon "supporters" also robbed a Walgreens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0VjoFNgxBI
</p>


lol so? those people are idiots.</p>Exactly my point!! People are using this situation for their own personal benefits. Again if Tray was white, would a bunch of african americans storm a walgreens?? NO. Would the Miami Heat wear hoodies, NO. Would Rush get on the House floor wearing a hoodie? NO. Would Jessie, Al, Spike Lee be involved? NO. Even the Ex leader or whatever of the NAACP said they were just doing it for publicity. Its a double standard.
You're so caught up in the 'double standard' you're totally neglecting the issue at hand, its kind of embarassing
I dont believe I am at all. We do not know all the facts. Iv already said if Zimmerman is found guilty I hope he rots in jail. I just feel its a racial issue now and that just incites more racism. And now it looks like Trayvon wasnt the angel everyone was making him out to be.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:44 PM
I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</P>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</P>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</P>


</P>


I think when Kase was referring to public opinion, i think he MEANT the likes of Al Sharpton, and Jackson, because nobody in their right mind actually gives a damn what those *******s say.
Everyone is racist, whether VERY, or just a little bit....it's everywhere.</P>


</P>


Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow....even Joe Scarborough, are claiming that this was a racially motivated crime.</P>


And lets not forget our friendly neighborhood Black Panther Party.</P>


For Kase to say that he has seen NO racially charged behavior in this is naive at best.</P>

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 02:44 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>Yes--I do know that many cannot handle the wealth and they blow thru it. That's very sad and completely avoidable if the lottery mandated that winners take classes and set their winnings up with an investor. The investor would make their percentage and gov't would get theirs from both the investor/investments accounts taxes. Your right though...it is preying on a vulnerable spot of people.

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 02:48 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</p>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</p>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</p>


Its disgusting.</p>

I did know that, but I also know I'm not gonna be the only guy still at work if our office pool wins so I still go in anyhow, also, If I won I'd just buy a house outright and put the rest in the bank, I wouldn't tell anyone (although I'm sure they'd find out) and I'd only help those really in need and my immediate family....I'd continue to work as normal...if anything I might buy a bowling alley instead of doing what I do now.

people go bankrupt because they have no concept of money, they get a few million dollars (even 20-30 million) and they think they can't spend it all, they want to help everyone, they think they can do whatever they want, it's the same reason athletes go broke as well, you just have to act as you always have and make a few good investments with the money.

(with 500 Million though, if it did go to one person....It'd almost be hard to spend that much lol)

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:48 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>


Yes--I do know that many cannot handle the wealth and they blow thru it. That's very sad and completely avoidable if the lottery mandated that winners take classes and set their winnings up with an investor. The investor would make their percentage and gov't would get theirs from both the investor/investments accounts taxes. Your right though...it is preying on a vulnerable spot of people.</P>


I have a particular hatred for the lottory.</P>


My friend Bill Moffatt got hooked on scratch tickets. Charged over $40,000.00 on his own cards, including opening accounts his wife didn't know about. Then he started charging them on his company credit card.</P>


Then he hung himself, 500 feet behind his back yard in September of 2003.</P>


The states where he bought those tickets of course were very happy to have the money. Its an acceptable bit of "collateral damage" for the collective good. Obviously a price they are willing to pay.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:49 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>


</P>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:51 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>


</P>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</P>


</P>


The real human cost isn't those who go bankrupt after winning. Its those who get addicted (and I believe that gambling is the most powerful addiction there is) and have their lives ruined.</P>


</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 02:53 PM
I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</p>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</p>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</p>


</p>


I think when Kase was referring to public opinion, i think he MEANT the likes of Al Sharpton, and Jackson, because nobody in their right mind actually gives a damn what those *******s say.
Everyone is racist, whether VERY, or just a little bit....it's everywhere.</p>


</p>


Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow....even Joe Scarborough, are claiming that this was a racially motivated crime.</p>


And lets not forget our friendly neighborhood Black Panther Party.</p>


For Kase to say that he has seen NO racially charged behavior in this is naive at best.</p>

Kase see's you as some sort of Ultra Conservative Morehead, what he doesn't realize is he's the radical, he's a radical liberal and you are actually more towards the center then he is, he's just shooting off the cuff (him and Matt) they don't usually have any information supporting what they say...they just say it to combat your "supposed" radical conservatism.....it's what the radical left wingers do....you know that, and most of them don't even know what they are...they just repeat what they hear from their bias news source (actually most don't watch any news source they just see the president on TV occasionally and believe everything he says)

And before you (Kase/MMB) go calling me some right wing conservative following bias news sources...I get most of my "news" from ****ing CSPAN I listen to the actual arguments being held in session...that can not possible be bias.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 02:56 PM
I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</P>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</P>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</P>


</P>


I think when Kase was referring to public opinion, i think he MEANT the likes of Al Sharpton, and Jackson, because nobody in their right mind actually gives a damn what those *******s say.
Everyone is racist, whether VERY, or just a little bit....it's everywhere.</P>


</P>


Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow....even Joe Scarborough, are claiming that this was a racially motivated crime.</P>


And lets not forget our friendly neighborhood Black Panther Party.</P>


For Kase to say that he has seen NO racially charged behavior in this is naive at best.</P>




Kase see's you as some sort of Ultra Conservative Morehead, what he doesn't realize is he's the radical, he's a radical liberal and you are actually more towards the center then he is, he's just shooting off the cuff (him and Matt) they don't usually have any information supporting what they say...they just say it to combat your "supposed" radical conservatism.....it's what the radical left wingers do....you know that, and most of them don't even know what they are...they just repeat what they hear from their bias news source (actually most don't watch any news source they just see the president on TV occasionally and believe everything he says)

And before you (Kase/MMB) go calling me some right wing conservative following bias news sources...I get most of my "news" from ****ing CSPAN I listen to the actual arguments being held in session...that can not possible be bias.
</P>


I believe in small government and the power of the individual to run his/her life in the way they see fit.</P>


When did that become "Ultra Conservative"?</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 02:57 PM
I have a particular hatred for the lottory.


My friend Bill Moffatt got hooked on scratch tickets. Charged over $40,000.00 on his own cards, including opening accounts his wife didn't know about. Then he started charging them on his company credit card.</P>


Then he hung himself, 500 feet behind his back yard in September of 2003.</P>


The states where he bought those tickets of course were very happy to have the money. Its an acceptable bit of "collateral damage" for the collective good. Obviously a price they are willing to pay.</P>


</P>


wow, thats awful man...sorry to hear that. </P>


i thought the sale of lottery tickets on credit and debit cards was strictly prohibited??!
well, clearly there are ways around it to get cash...so i guess thats a moot point...</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 03:02 PM
I have a particular hatred for the lottory.


My friend Bill Moffatt got hooked on scratch tickets. Charged over $40,000.00 on his own cards, including opening accounts his wife didn't know about. Then he started charging them on his company credit card.</P>


Then he hung himself, 500 feet behind his back yard in September of 2003.</P>


The states where he bought those tickets of course were very happy to have the money. Its an acceptable bit of "collateral damage" for the collective good. Obviously a price they are willing to pay.</P>


</P>


wow, thats awful man...sorry to hear that. </P>


i thought the sale of lottery tickets on credit and debit cards was strictly prohibited??!
well, clearly there are ways around it to get cash...so i guess thats a moot point...</P>


</P>


The worst thing is that his wife found out about the $40,000 when they tried to refinance thier mortgage. he promised to go to GA and they then folded that 40 grand into their new mortgage. So she was on the hook for it when he died.</P>


And this guy wasn't some weakling. he was one of the funniest, best guys you could ever meet. he was Craig McTavish's best friend. When McTavish had that drunk driving manslaughter conviction, Billy was the only one of his friends to drive up to Maine regularly and visit him in jail. they played hockey at Lowell University together.</P>


Kase would have loved him, he was a great hockey player.</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 03:02 PM
http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/41b20c2079ba11e1a87612313804ec91_7.jpg

bllaaaang blaaaang

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 03:08 PM
http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/41b20c2079ba11e1a87612313804ec91_7.jpg

bllaaaang blaaaang
</P>


I guess they're less hideous than the 07 rings.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 03:08 PM
I did know that, but I also know I'm not gonna be the only guy still at work if our office pool wins so I still go in anyhow, also, If I won I'd just buy a house outright and put the rest in the bank, I wouldn't tell anyone (although I'm sure they'd find out) and I'd only help those really in need and my immediate family....I'd continue to work as normal...if anything I might buy a bowling alley instead of doing what I do now.

people go bankrupt because they have no concept of money, they get a few million dollars (even 20-30 million) and they think they can't spend it all, they want to help everyone, they think they can do whatever they want, it's the same reason athletes go broke as well, you just have to act as you always have and make a few good investments with the money.

(with 500 Million though, if it did go to one person....It'd almost be hard to spend that much lol)
</P>


First thing to do is move.
people will find a way to try their hardest to leach of you.
When it comes to loved ones and those close to me, i'd make sure they live debt free where possible, but that's it. it's too hard to be pressured to do anything else, unless theres other immediate needs that i would like to help with.

I'd LIKE to think that anyone with any sense would buy a house, keep enough liquid to live comfortably, and sit on the rest till later. But, thats asking alot for most ppl to be smart enough to do that. lol</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 03:13 PM
http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/41b20c2079ba11e1a87612313804ec91_7.jpg

bllaaaang blaaaang
</p>


I guess they're less hideous than the 07 rings.</p>yeaaa im not crazy about the blue around the lombardis, but its still pretty nice.

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 03:15 PM
I believe in small government and the power of the individual to run his/her life in the way they see fit.</p>


When did that become "Ultra Conservative"?</p>

Started after the New Deal in the 30's I guess? when did they make the federal reserve? this country has been going away from what it was founded on for almost a hundred years now...our best times as a country are behind us.

the sad part is it's our fault, our society has become lazy, it doesn't want to support itself, is seems vast majority of American citizens just want the government to take care of them and we don't even care how they do it, we don't care about our rights anymore...I'm willing to bet most kids between the ages of 15-25 don't even really know what the Constitution is anymore....

it's a damn shame :(

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 03:24 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>


</P>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</P>You do have good points today JP. A bit more aggressive than normal, but good points.

MH, I'm sorry about your friend. I hope he owed more than 50k, before he hung himself, but I guess everyone's tolerance level is different.

Dav-Exactly-what I was thinking, athletes fall into the same category. There should be required money education courses and direction to investors immediately at the time of signing to an nfl team or winning the lottery.

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 03:26 PM
http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/41b20c2079ba11e1a87612313804ec91_7.jpg

bllaaaang blaaaang
</P>


I guess they're less hideous than the 07 rings.</P>I love those rings!

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 03:27 PM
I believe in small government and the power of the individual to run his/her life in the way they see fit.</P>


When did that become "Ultra Conservative"?</P>




Started after the New Deal in the 30's I guess? when did they make the federal reserve? this country has been going away from what it was founded on for almost a hundred years now...our best times as a country are behind us.

the sad part is it's our fault, our society has become lazy, it doesn't want to support itself, is seems vast majority of American citizens just want the government to take care of them and we don't even care how they do it, we don't care about our rights anymore...I'm willing to bet most kids between the ages of 15-25 don't even really know what the Constitution is anymore....

it's a damn shame :(
</P>


Disagree. this will all change when it becomes clear that there isn't enough tax money in the world to give them what they want.</P>


Ultimately, our country always recovers and moves forward. Yes things are a tad discouraging now. The huge deficits incurred by Goerge Bush and Barack Obama, and the "Cradle to Grave" sense of entitlement will be replaced by hard truths about the need for human excellence for our country to move forward.</P>


</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 03:28 PM
Wheres the outrage?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/shawn-tyson-gets-life-sentence_n_1387550.html

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 03:29 PM
JP and Dav both said same thing...First buy a house. I have to agree--even though some may contest the move, stating that you are losing the mortgage interest write-off. I'm fine with only writing off the taxes and owing that baby outright. That home's your security and ace in the hole if there is a future disaster and you need to leverage a mortgage against it in an emergency...which there should never be with a boatload of the winnings invested, but still nice to know.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 03:30 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>


</P>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</P>


You do have good points today JP. A bit more aggressive than normal, but good points. MH, I'm sorry about your friend. I hope he owed more than 50k, before he hung himself, but I guess everyone's tolerance level is different. Dav-Exactly-what I was thinking, athletes fall into the same category. There should be required money education courses and direction to investors immediately at the time of signing to an nfl team or winning the lottery.</P>


None of us can ever know what he was thinking, but we think it might have been the shame of charging up his company credit card and all the consequences once that would become known.</P>


The irony is that the company he worked for (Olympic Fasteners) took care of all the funeral expenses and help support his wife for a decent amount of time after.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 03:30 PM
Wheres the outrage?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/shawn-tyson-gets-life-sentence_n_1387550.html


</P>


I'm raging....right now...you cant tell?</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 03:34 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</p>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</p>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</p>


Its disgusting.</p>


</p>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</p>


You do have good points today JP. A bit more aggressive than normal, but good points. MH, I'm sorry about your friend. I hope he owed more than 50k, before he hung himself, but I guess everyone's tolerance level is different. Dav-Exactly-what I was thinking, athletes fall into the same category. There should be required money education courses and direction to investors immediately at the time of signing to an nfl team or winning the lottery.</p>


None of us can ever know what he was thinking, but we think it might have been the shame of charging up his company credit card and all the consequences once that would become known.</p>


The irony is that the company he worked for (Olympic Fasteners) took care of all the funeral expenses and help support his wife for a decent amount of time after.</p>Thats so horrible. Im sorry for your loss MH.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 03:38 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>


</P>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</P>


You do have good points today JP. A bit more aggressive than normal, but good points. MH, I'm sorry about your friend. I hope he owed more than 50k, before he hung himself, but I guess everyone's tolerance level is different. Dav-Exactly-what I was thinking, athletes fall into the same category. There should be required money education courses and direction to investors immediately at the time of signing to an nfl team or winning the lottery.</P>


None of us can ever know what he was thinking, but we think it might have been the shame of charging up his company credit card and all the consequences once that would become known.</P>


The irony is that the company he worked for (Olympic Fasteners) took care of all the funeral expenses and help support his wife for a decent amount of time after.</P>


Thats so horrible. Im sorry for your loss MH.
</P>


Such a nice thing to say. Who are you and what have you done with Dez?</P>


This is why I don't gamble. Its my little, pathetic attempt to honor the memory of my friend.</P>

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 03:42 PM
Wheres the outrage?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/shawn-tyson-gets-life-sentence_n_1387550.html


</P>


I'm raging....right now...you cant tell?</P>Based on the huffington post article, they had dna eveidence on Tyson and multiple witness testimonies.

I am skeptical of the witnesses, if they too, were gangster's with diff agendas trying to reduce other charges.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 03:43 PM
Such a nice thing to say. Who are you and what have you done with Dez?</P>


This is why I don't gamble. Its my little, pathetic attempt to honor the memory of my friend.</P>


</P>


I hear ya. I dont gamble either in the traditional sense. This week is the 2nd time I've ever bought lotto tickets. $10 on the fat chance that I can have my family set for the rest of their life? yea i can spare a few bucks for that. it's not like i EXPECT to win &gt;.&lt;
I have played a few poker games here and there with my friends. but nothing ever more than a game with friends....hence why im not gambling in Vegas; why start now?</P>

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 03:43 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</p>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</p>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</p>


Its disgusting.</p>


</p>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</p>


You do have good points today JP. A bit more aggressive than normal, but good points. MH, I'm sorry about your friend. I hope he owed more than 50k, before he hung himself, but I guess everyone's tolerance level is different. Dav-Exactly-what I was thinking, athletes fall into the same category. There should be required money education courses and direction to investors immediately at the time of signing to an nfl team or winning the lottery.</p>


None of us can ever know what he was thinking, but we think it might have been the shame of charging up his company credit card and all the consequences once that would become known.</p>


The irony is that the company he worked for (Olympic Fasteners) took care of all the funeral expenses and help support his wife for a decent amount of time after.</p>


Thats so horrible. Im sorry for your loss MH.
</p>


Such a nice thing to say. Who are you and what have you done with Dez?</p>


This is why I don't gamble. Its my little, pathetic attempt to honor the memory of my friend.</p>Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 03:45 PM
Such a nice thing to say. Who are you and what have you done with Dez?</P>


This is why I don't gamble. Its my little, pathetic attempt to honor the memory of my friend.</P>


</P>


I hear ya. I dont gamble either in the traditional sense. This week is the 2nd time I've ever bought lotto tickets. $10 on the fat chance that I can have my family set for the rest of their life? yea i can spare a few bucks for that. it's not like i EXPECT to win &gt;.&lt;
I have played a few poker games here and there with my friends. but nothing ever more than a game with friends....hence why im not gambling in Vegas; why start now?</P>


</P>


I went to Vegasa few years ago with my lovely bridein order to do one thing and one thing only.....To see Don Rickles live.</P>


It was definately worth the trip. One more thing to cross off my bucket list.</P>

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 03:48 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</p>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</p>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</p>


Its disgusting.</p>


</p>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</p>


You do have good points today JP. A bit more aggressive than normal, but good points. MH, I'm sorry about your friend. I hope he owed more than 50k, before he hung himself, but I guess everyone's tolerance level is different. Dav-Exactly-what I was thinking, athletes fall into the same category. There should be required money education courses and direction to investors immediately at the time of signing to an nfl team or winning the lottery.</p>


None of us can ever know what he was thinking, but we think it might have been the shame of charging up his company credit card and all the consequences once that would become known.</p>


The irony is that the company he worked for (Olympic Fasteners) took care of all the funeral expenses and help support his wife for a decent amount of time after.</p>


Thats so horrible. Im sorry for your loss MH.
</p>


Such a nice thing to say.* Who are you and what have you done with Dez?</p>


This is why I don't gamble.* Its my little, pathetic attempt to honor the memory of my friend.</p>Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


You are very generous...I would even wait if you wanted to take the mil out of your interest and not the principle.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 03:49 PM
Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</P>


ahhh see thats the thing though. that's not really a wise decision. nobody here EXPECTS anything from you. Now if out of the kindness of your heart you run Thee Game every year, thats another story....
thats what i said I would do yesterday when discussing this. but lets be honest, you rather give us money cuz you've never been to a Giants game anyway lmao</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 03:50 PM
Reminds me of the song: "I wanna be a millionare so ****ing bad" Say you took the lump sum @ 240 mil-I could get you @14 mil a year in interest easily, virtually guaranteed for the rest of your life. Dream Baby, Dream.</P>


Do you know that more than half of the big lottory winners end up bankrupt?</P>


Its a friggin scam where our State governments prey on the normal human weaknesses of its citizens.</P>


Its disgusting.</P>


</P>


are you blaming a government money maker for people being stupid? i dont get it....

Are those people ending up bankrupt because of poor decisions? most likely.

Now, if by human weakness you mean ppl who are compulsive gamblers, and play lottery every with decent amounts of money....then yes i absolutely agree.

wow, i feel like every post i have made today has to defend normal people vs. stupid people.
is this really what it has come to??? lol</P>


You do have good points today JP. A bit more aggressive than normal, but good points. MH, I'm sorry about your friend. I hope he owed more than 50k, before he hung himself, but I guess everyone's tolerance level is different. Dav-Exactly-what I was thinking, athletes fall into the same category. There should be required money education courses and direction to investors immediately at the time of signing to an nfl team or winning the lottery.</P>


None of us can ever know what he was thinking, but we think it might have been the shame of charging up his company credit card and all the consequences once that would become known.</P>


The irony is that the company he worked for (Olympic Fasteners) took care of all the funeral expenses and help support his wife for a decent amount of time after.</P>


Thats so horrible. Im sorry for your loss MH.
</P>


Such a nice thing to say. Who are you and what have you done with Dez?</P>


This is why I don't gamble. Its my little, pathetic attempt to honor the memory of my friend.</P>


Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</P>


Talk is cheap.</P>

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 03:51 PM
Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</P>


ahhh see thats the thing though. that's not really a wise decision. nobody here EXPECTS anything from you. Now if out of the kindness of your heart you run Thee Game every year, thats another story....
thats what i said I would do yesterday when discussing this. but lets be honest, you rather give us money cuz you've never been to a Giants game anyway lmao</P>Speak for yourself pizz, I already printed this page out. I'm suing Dezz if I don't get my share like the construction guy's in Jersey last week. lol

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 03:54 PM
Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</P>


ahhh see thats the thing though. that's not really a wise decision. nobody here EXPECTS anything from you. Now if out of the kindness of your heart you run Thee Game every year, thats another story....
thats what i said I would do yesterday when discussing this. but lets be honest, you rather give us money cuz you've never been to a Giants game anyway lmao</P>Speak for yourself pizz, I already printed this page out. I'm suing Dezz if I don't get my share like the construction guy's in Jersey last week. lolYou guy's can hold me to this: If I win the big one, 230mill+ I WILL GIVE YOU EACH A MILLION...MH, Dezz, JP, MMB, Kase, Dav, Not from principle, but from first couple years interest.

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 03:56 PM
Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</p>


ahhh see thats the thing though. that's not really a wise decision. nobody here EXPECTS anything from you. Now if out of the kindness of your heart you run Thee Game every year, thats another story....
thats what i said I would do yesterday when discussing this. but lets be honest, you rather give us money cuz you've never been to a Giants game anyway lmao</p>so what youre saying is 1 million &lt;giants game?
What is there, 10 of us at most? Out of 540 million thats peanuts. you get taxed though right?


but bandy doesnt get ANY. he doesnt love us anymore.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 03:57 PM
Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</P>


ahhh see thats the thing though. that's not really a wise decision. nobody here EXPECTS anything from you. Now if out of the kindness of your heart you run Thee Game every year, thats another story....
thats what i said I would do yesterday when discussing this. but lets be honest, you rather give us money cuz you've never been to a Giants game anyway lmao</P>


Speak for yourself pizz, I already printed this page out. I'm suing Dezz if I don't get my share like the construction guy's in Jersey last week. lolYou guy's can hold me to this: If I win the big one, 230mill+ I WILL GIVE YOU EACH A MILLION...MH, Dezz, JP, MMB, Kase, Dav, Not from principle, but from first couple years interest.</P>


Interest from what. Money Market accounts are turning a whopping .46% right now.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:02 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</p>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</p>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<u>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</u>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.
Ive seen ZERO racial tension on this issue, people of all ethnicities are agreeing on this one. Its not like its a black vs white or black vs spanish issue. Look at the rallies theyve been having its people of all colors behind the same cause
</p>


I'm sorry..........What????</p>


Sorry man you gotta turn off the ultra conservative media outlets you use and look at with a non-biased view and people of all races are up in arms about this, contrary to what fox news and rush limbaugh tell you
</p>


I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.</p>


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</p>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</p>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</p>Obviously the crime was race motivated, but what I was saying was that people of all races are standing up for this not just black people, or like this is a black people vs white or spanish people but more-so people against racism

I guess u didnt read my post that u quoted 2 responses ago about the rallies

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 04:04 PM
Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</P>


ahhh see thats the thing though. that's not really a wise decision. nobody here EXPECTS anything from you. Now if out of the kindness of your heart you run Thee Game every year, thats another story....
thats what i said I would do yesterday when discussing this. but lets be honest, you rather give us money cuz you've never been to a Giants game anyway lmao</P>


Speak for yourself pizz, I already printed this page out. I'm suing Dezz if I don't get my share like the construction guy's in Jersey last week. lolYou guy's can hold me to this: If I win the big one, 230mill+ I WILL GIVE YOU EACH A MILLION...MH, Dezz, JP, MMB, Kase, Dav, Not from principle, but from first couple years interest.</P>


Interest from what.* Money Market accounts are turning a whopping .46% right now.</P>Combination of international/us/guaranteed funds...I can virtually guarantee 6%. I'm serious as a heart attack.

Dezz that 540 mill would lump sum after taxes around 230 million--at least that's what I read.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:04 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<U>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</U>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.
Ive seen ZERO racial tension on this issue, people of all ethnicities are agreeing on this one. Its not like its a black vs white or black vs spanish issue. Look at the rallies theyve been having its people of all colors behind the same cause
</P>


I'm sorry..........What????</P>


Sorry man you gotta turn off the ultra conservative media outlets you use and look at with a non-biased view and people of all races are up in arms about this, contrary to what fox news and rush limbaugh tell you
</P>


I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.</P>


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</P>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</P>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</P>


Obviously the crime was race motivated, but what I was saying was that people of all races are standing up for this not just black people, or like this is a black people vs white or spanish people but more-so people against racism

I guess u didnt read my post that u quoted 2 responses ago about the rallies
</P>


I never said it was just black people.</P>


But unfortunately every opportunist in the country is ginning up the emotion on this one to draw attention to themselves.</P>


And you're right....It's morons of all colors.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:06 PM
I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</p>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</p>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</p>


</p>


I think when Kase was referring to public opinion, i think he MEANT the likes of Al Sharpton, and Jackson, because nobody in their right mind actually gives a damn what those *******s say.
Everyone is racist, whether VERY, or just a little bit....it's everywhere.</p>


</p>


Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow....even Joe Scarborough, are claiming that this was a racially motivated crime.</p>


And lets not forget our friendly neighborhood Black Panther Party.</p>


For Kase to say that he has seen NO racially charged behavior in this is naive at best.</p>You misquoting and misconstruing my words is cheap and petty at best

You spoke of racism and I said how this is bringing people of all colors together at the rallies but you say its all 'black victims and rich white preppies'

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:06 PM
Obviously the crime was race motivated

but what I was saying was that people of all races are standing up for this not just black people, or like this is a black people vs white or spanish people but more-so people against racism

I guess u didnt read my post that u quoted 2 responses ago about the rallies

did you hear Obama say if he had a son he would look just like him, the "Response" to the crime is blatantly racially motivated... The crime itself? who knows.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:07 PM
Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</P>


ahhh see thats the thing though. that's not really a wise decision. nobody here EXPECTS anything from you. Now if out of the kindness of your heart you run Thee Game every year, thats another story....
thats what i said I would do yesterday when discussing this. but lets be honest, you rather give us money cuz you've never been to a Giants game anyway lmao</P>


Speak for yourself pizz, I already printed this page out. I'm suing Dezz if I don't get my share like the construction guy's in Jersey last week. lolYou guy's can hold me to this: If I win the big one, 230mill+ I WILL GIVE YOU EACH A MILLION...MH, Dezz, JP, MMB, Kase, Dav, Not from principle, but from first couple years interest.</P>


Interest from what. Money Market accounts are turning a whopping .46% right now.</P>


Combination of international/us/guaranteed funds...I can virtually guarantee 6%. I'm serious as a heart attack. Dezz that 540 mill would lump sum after taxes around 230 million--at least that's what I read.</P>


What happens if Europe has another calamity? I'm sorry LT, there are no guarantees. I have a lot of post tax money in Muni bonds, but even then, they can fall. The best thing about them is that they are tax free.</P>


You can have a portfolio that "should" yield about 5%, but I'm not sure about a virtual guarantee.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:08 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<u>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</u> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</p>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</p>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<u>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</u>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.
Ive seen ZERO racial tension on this issue, people of all ethnicities are agreeing on this one. Its not like its a black vs white or black vs spanish issue. Look at the rallies theyve been having its people of all colors behind the same cause
</p>


I'm sorry..........What????</p>


Sorry man you gotta turn off the ultra conservative media outlets you use and look at with a non-biased view and people of all races are up in arms about this, contrary to what fox news and rush limbaugh tell you
</p>


I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.</p>


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</p>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</p>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</p>


Obviously the crime was race motivated, but what I was saying was that people of all races are standing up for this not just black people, or like this is a black people vs white or spanish people but more-so people against racism

I guess u didnt read my post that u quoted 2 responses ago about the rallies
</p>


I never said it was just black people.</p>


But unfortunately every opportunist in the country is ginning up the emotion on this one to draw attention to themselves.</p>


And you're right....It's morons of all colors.</p>Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:09 PM
I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</P>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</P>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</P>


</P>


I think when Kase was referring to public opinion, i think he MEANT the likes of Al Sharpton, and Jackson, because nobody in their right mind actually gives a damn what those *******s say.
Everyone is racist, whether VERY, or just a little bit....it's everywhere.</P>


</P>


Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow....even Joe Scarborough, are claiming that this was a racially motivated crime.</P>


And lets not forget our friendly neighborhood Black Panther Party.</P>


For Kase to say that he has seen NO racially charged behavior in this is naive at best.</P>


You misquoting and misconstruing my words is cheap and petty at best

You spoke of racism and I said how this is bringing people of all colors together at the rallies but you say its all 'black victims and rich white preppies'
</P>


It has brought liberals of all colors together Kase.....Against the real enemy...white non-liberals.</P>


And why are you being so hostile when I am doing nothing but spreading love?</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:10 PM
Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that


They aren't staning up for a horrible crime, they are doing the "cool" thing to grab attention, they have no idea what they are supposedly standing up for, how do I know that? because NO ONE knows the facts of this case yet...it hasn't even gone to court yet.

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:10 PM
Obviously the crime was race motivated

but what I was saying was that people of all races are standing up for this not just black people, or like this is a black people vs white or spanish people but more-so people against racism

I guess u didnt read my post that u quoted 2 responses ago about the rallies

did you hear Obama say if he had a son he would look just like him, the "Response" to the crime is blatantly racially motivated... The crime itself? who knows.
You're kidding me right!?!?!

The crime wasnt racially motivated, but the respone is, thats what you're saying?!?!?

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:12 PM
What happens if Europe has another calamity? I'm sorry LT, there are no guarantees. I have a lot of post tax money in Muni bonds, but even then, they can fall. The best thing about them is that they are tax free.</p>


You can have a portfolio that "should" yield about 5%, but I'm not sure about a virtual guarantee.</p>

if you are putting vast amounts of cash into a bank (especially a smaller home town type bank) you can practically ask for your own interest rate (within reason) when it's that much money they will bend the rules for you.

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:12 PM
I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</p>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</p>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</p>


</p>


I think when Kase was referring to public opinion, i think he MEANT the likes of Al Sharpton, and Jackson, because nobody in their right mind actually gives a damn what those *******s say.
Everyone is racist, whether VERY, or just a little bit....it's everywhere.</p>


</p>


Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow....even Joe Scarborough, are claiming that this was a racially motivated crime.</p>


And lets not forget our friendly neighborhood Black Panther Party.</p>


For Kase to say that he has seen NO racially charged behavior in this is naive at best.</p>


You misquoting and misconstruing my words is cheap and petty at best

You spoke of racism and I said how this is bringing people of all colors together at the rallies but you say its all 'black victims and rich white preppies'
</p>


It has brought liberals of all colors together Kase.....Against the real enemy...white non-liberals.</p>


And why are you being so hostile when I am doing nothing but spreading love?</p>LMAO, you're too much

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:12 PM
This trayvon martin case is being beaten to death....
Rightfully so, he was an unarmed kid who was shot to death, have you listened to to details of what went down??? Its DISGUSTING!!!!

Cmon Dezz I expected better from you
Yes I herd, but what I find just as disgusting are the people trying to exploit the situation. I also have a hard time believing the public outrage would be the same if the Trayvon was white. This type of stuff just incites more racism imo.

Its a double standard and I cant stand it. Where was the outcry when this happened??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m
<U>So because the news was ignorant about another story you're gonna give a cold shoulder to the Trayvon Martin case???</U> Sorry man, but thats painfully idiotic

This stuff incites more racism because of horribly misguided views like yours

And whos 'exploiting' the situation, is there a secret group of 'black liberals' that are making money off of this or something that only Rush Limbaugh knows about???

An unarmed CHILD got murdered because he was wearing a hoodie and in the wrong place at the wrong time (even though it was his fathers development)
Youre making accusations. Im not turning a cold shoulder. I said the double standard is bull****, would you agree?
Do you think The Heat would wear hoodies if the kid was white, or any other african american wearing a hoodie for that matter? The racists Al sharpton, Jessie, Spike Lee, Bobby Rush ( a former black panther) all seeking media attention. Its as clear as day my friend.

Double standard in ANY case are BS

I dont know if they would do that if Travyon Martin was white, neither do you. And what if they DID do the same if it was a white kid, big f'n deal. Its more about humanity but the pundits want to break it down to race to divide everybody about the case

Al Sharpton is a clown, I disagree with you on your views of Jesse, Spike Lee and Bobby Rush (who was a black panther, but made a great point)

You call it media seeking, I call it keeping a horrible issue in the limelight so people dont forget about it
</P>


And how about the Black panther party announcing that 'if you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours", with NO condemnation from any of your friends from the left. the people who are wooping up all this emotion. You mention the idiot on the floor of the House. How on earth can anyone ever get a fair trial if this kind of **** happens.</P>


Link please??

You know I dont believe any of your conservative fear mongering unless I hear it 1st hand or get a hard link for it
<U>
What about all of your buddies on the right that are pretending that this didnt happen all so they can go back to Obama-Blasting??</U>

You cant get a trial unless you're arrested and so far he hasnt been arrested, so your right he cant get a fair trial cause he cant get a trial without being processed into the system
They arent pretending this didnt happen. Theyre trying to ignore the racial tension, which is a good thing
And a higher percentage of those evil republicans voted for the civil rights act than dems, people seem to forget that.
Ive seen ZERO racial tension on this issue, people of all ethnicities are agreeing on this one. Its not like its a black vs white or black vs spanish issue. Look at the rallies theyve been having its people of all colors behind the same cause
</P>


I'm sorry..........What????</P>


Sorry man you gotta turn off the ultra conservative media outlets you use and look at with a non-biased view and people of all races are up in arms about this, contrary to what fox news and rush limbaugh tell you
</P>


I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since 2000. He's a dope.</P>


Most of my news on TV I get from MSNBC. In every hour there I hear about how racially motivated this crime was. That George Zimmerman is a racist. That he only followed this kid because he was black.</P>


Then we see the usual suspects calling out our racist country (Rev Al, Jesse Jackson, members of the Congressional Black Caucus etc...).</P>


This entire incident is what it is because of the race factor. I'm just not sure what you are watching, Kase.</P>


Obviously the crime was race motivated, but what I was saying was that people of all races are standing up for this not just black people, or like this is a black people vs white or spanish people but more-so people against racism

I guess u didnt read my post that u quoted 2 responses ago about the rallies
</P>


I never said it was just black people.</P>


But unfortunately every opportunist in the country is ginning up the emotion on this one to draw attention to themselves.</P>


And you're right....It's morons of all colors.</P>


Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that
</P>


Kase....I really need to make this clear. What you just described is not what I am doing at all.</P>


My problem is the dopes who whoop up the emotion on this by presuming to know all the facts. My point is that we need to find out what happened before we start pointing fingers at other Americans.</P>


There are opportunists coming out of the woodwork on this and its a typical, media driven event.</P>


Everybody needs to calm down here. this is a terrible tragedy but they happen every day in every city around the country. Everybody wants to talk about this because there are ratings and attention to be had.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:14 PM
Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that


They aren't staning up for a horrible crime, they are doing the "cool" thing to grab attention, they have no idea what they are supposedly standing up for, how do I know that? because NO ONE knows the facts of this case yet...it hasn't even gone to court yet.
WOW, thats a real d-baggy and horribly ignorant thing to say

People are up in arms because the guy shot and unarmed kid and didnt even get arrested

lttaylor56
03-29-2012, 04:15 PM
Well i did say id give everyone in here a million if I won, much more than the rest of the cheapos here. [;)]


</P>


ahhh see thats the thing though. that's not really a wise decision. nobody here EXPECTS anything from you. Now if out of the kindness of your heart you run Thee Game every year, thats another story....
thats what i said I would do yesterday when discussing this. but lets be honest, you rather give us money cuz you've never been to a Giants game anyway lmao</P>


Speak for yourself pizz, I already printed this page out. I'm suing Dezz if I don't get my share like the construction guy's in Jersey last week. lolYou guy's can hold me to this: If I win the big one, 230mill+ I WILL GIVE YOU EACH A MILLION...MH, Dezz, JP, MMB, Kase, Dav, Not from principle, but from first couple years interest.</P>


Interest from what.* Money Market accounts are turning a whopping .46% right now.</P>


Combination of international/us/guaranteed funds...I can virtually guarantee 6%. I'm serious as a heart attack. Dezz that 540 mill would lump sum after taxes around 230 million--at least that's what I read.</P>


What happens if Europe has another calamity?* I'm sorry LT, there are no guarantees.* I have a lot of post tax money in Muni bonds, but even then, they can fall.* The best thing about them is that they are tax free.</P>


You can have a portfolio that "should" yield about 5%, but I'm not sure about a virtual guarantee.</P>Personally, I'm conservative, but I little bit of a gambler, right now--I'm pulling closer to 10% than 6%. That's why I could almost guarantee the 6%. It's scary, when the market sways, but it always comes back even better than it was.

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:16 PM
Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that


They aren't staning up for a horrible crime, they are doing the "cool" thing to grab attention, they have no idea what they are supposedly standing up for, how do I know that? because NO ONE knows the facts of this case yet...it hasn't even gone to court yet.
WOW, thats a real d-baggy and horribly ignorant thing to say

People are up in arms because the guy shot and unarmed kid and didnt even get arrested


It's not D-Baggy and ignorant, it's the truth Kase and you are really naive if you think otherwise, there is nothing wrong with standing up against "racism" but standing up for one kid in one city where no one even knows what there circumstances were? yeah, that's just attention grabbing, it's a tragedy yes, but it happens all over America every day, stand against "racism" in general....don't jump on one "media driven" incident.

People are up in arms because the Media has told them to be and they want to be down with the cool "issue"

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:17 PM
Kase....I really need to make this clear. What you just described is not what I am doing at all.</p>


My problem is the dopes who whoop up the emotion on this by presuming to know all the facts. My point is that we need to find out what happened before we start pointing fingers at other Americans.</p>


There are opportunists coming out of the woodwork on this and its a typical, media driven event.</p>


Everybody needs to calm down here. this is a terrible tragedym but they happen every day in every city around the country. Everybody wants to talk about this because there are ratings and attention to be had.</p>There are PLENTY of facts that are known to the public at this point in time

You think its all about ratings, and getting attention for the media!?!? Thats a terrible thing to say dude, there was a heinous crime committed and when people try to get attention brought to its light you guys dismiss them as morons, people that are trying to do the cool thing, racists, and general clowns.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:18 PM
Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that


They aren't staning up for a horrible crime, they are doing the "cool" thing to grab attention, they have no idea what they are supposedly standing up for, how do I know that? because NO ONE knows the facts of this case yet...it hasn't even gone to court yet.
WOW, thats a real d-baggy and horribly ignorant thing to say

People are up in arms because the guy shot and unarmed kid and didnt even get arrested
</P>


People are up in arms because the opportunists are telling them to be. Its bizaare that this guy hasn't been arrested. (actually he WAS arrested as show in the ABC video) but outrageous things like this happen all the time. All the time Kase. They suck. but this is a case of media people and so called "social leaders" trying to create a lot of national rage for their own benefit.</P>


Just as they did in the Duke Lacrosse case.</P>


Its very concerning whats happened here. But the national attention is rediculous.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:18 PM
Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that


They aren't staning up for a horrible crime, they are doing the "cool" thing to grab attention, they have no idea what they are supposedly standing up for, how do I know that? because NO ONE knows the facts of this case yet...it hasn't even gone to court yet.
WOW, thats a real d-baggy and horribly ignorant thing to say

People are up in arms because the guy shot and unarmed kid and didnt even get arrested


It's not D-Baggy and ignorant, it's the truth Kase and you are really naive if you think otherwise, there is nothing wrong with standing up against "racism" but standing up for one kid in one city where no one even knows what there circumstances were? yeah, that's just attention grabbing, it's a tragedy yes, but it happens all over America every day, stand against "racism" in general....don't jump on one "media driven" incident.
See now you are just being a D-Bag

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:20 PM
There are PLENTY of facts that are known to the public at this point in time

If there was then he would already be arrested wouldn't he....clearly it's not as cut and dry as you have been told it was by the media that wants ratings and wants you to be angry.


You think its all about ratings, and getting attention for the media!?!? Thats a terrible thing to say dude

No Kase, speaking the Truth is never a terrible thing.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:20 PM
Kase....I really need to make this clear. What you just described is not what I am doing at all.</P>


My problem is the dopes who whoop up the emotion on this by presuming to know all the facts. My point is that we need to find out what happened before we start pointing fingers at other Americans.</P>


There are opportunists coming out of the woodwork on this and its a typical, media driven event.</P>


Everybody needs to calm down here. this is a terrible tragedym but they happen every day in every city around the country. Everybody wants to talk about this because there are ratings and attention to be had.</P>


There are PLENTY of facts that are known to the public at this point in time

You think its all about ratings, and getting attention for the media!?!? Thats a terrible thing to say dude, there was a heinous crime committed and when people try to get attention brought to its light you guys dismiss them as morons, people that are trying to do the cool thing, racists, and general clowns.
</P>


How many murders have taken place since this happened. How about the soldier in Afghanistan who got killed while saving the life of an Afghan little girl. Almost nothing on that.</P>


This story is an outrage on its face. But its being propped up for self interest by these "leaders" and media types. </P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:22 PM
See now you are just being a D-Bag

Why? because I'd rather stand up against the actual issue (racism) instead of one particular incident that we don't know anything about yet? because I'm not just going to blindly follow what ever story the opportunists and ratings grabbers want me to?

Honestly I think you are being the D-Bag here but I wasn't going to say it, but since you started it.

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:23 PM
Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that


They aren't staning up for a horrible crime, they are doing the "cool" thing to grab attention, they have no idea what they are supposedly standing up for, how do I know that? because NO ONE knows the facts of this case yet...it hasn't even gone to court yet.
WOW, thats a real d-baggy and horribly ignorant thing to say

People are up in arms because the guy shot and unarmed kid and didnt even get arrested
</p>


People are up in arms because the opportunists are telling them to be. Its bizaare that this guy hasn't been arrested. (actually he WAS arrested as show in the ABC video) but outrageous things like this happen all the time. All the time Kase. They suck. but this is a case of media people and so called "social leaders" trying to create a lot of national rage for their own benefit.</p>


Just as they did in the Duke Lacrosse case.</p>


Its very concerning whats happened here. But the national attention is rediculous.</p>Theres a perfect example where public opinion didnt mean a damned thing, those kids went to trial and were proven innocent when everyone thought they were guilty.

In your eyes the national attention is ridiculous, in my eyes its deserved any crime like this should have the same attention even though many dont.

People up in arms because the 'opportunists' tell them to be, thats the argument I have against the tea party nut jobs and you call me crazy, but in your case its true?!!?!? Riiiiiiiiiiiight, theyre both biased points of view

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:26 PM
There are PLENTY of facts that are known to the public at this point in time

If there was then he would already be arrested wouldn't he....clearly it's not as cut and dry as you have been told it was by the media that wants ratings and wants you to be angry.


You think its all about ratings, and getting attention for the media!?!? Thats a terrible thing to say dude

No Kase, speaking the Truth is never a terrible thing.



You're horribly disillusioned man, if you think this is all about media ratings then I feel bad for you, cause at that point you're so far gone its not even worth continuing this with you... Its kinda sad

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:28 PM
Wow MH, you're really taking the low road in this whole discussion.

People that stand up for a horrible crime and participate in a rally are now 'morons', cmon man I thought you were better than that


They aren't staning up for a horrible crime, they are doing the "cool" thing to grab attention, they have no idea what they are supposedly standing up for, how do I know that? because NO ONE knows the facts of this case yet...it hasn't even gone to court yet.
WOW, thats a real d-baggy and horribly ignorant thing to say

People are up in arms because the guy shot and unarmed kid and didnt even get arrested
</P>


People are up in arms because the opportunists are telling them to be. Its bizaare that this guy hasn't been arrested. (actually he WAS arrested as show in the ABC video) but outrageous things like this happen all the time. All the time Kase. They suck. but this is a case of media people and so called "social leaders" trying to create a lot of national rage for their own benefit.</P>


Just as they did in the Duke Lacrosse case.</P>


Its very concerning whats happened here. But the national attention is rediculous.</P>


Theres a perfect example where public opinion didnt mean a damned thing, those kids went to trial and were proven innocent when everyone thought they were guilty.

In your eyes the national attention is ridiculous, in my eyes its deserved any crime like this should have the same attention even though many dont.

People up in arms because the 'opportunists' tell them to be, thats the argument I have against the tea party nut jobs and you call me crazy, but in your case its true?!!?!? Riiiiiiiiiiiight, theyre both biased points of view
</P>


You underestimate the power of public opinion. can you imagine any way this guy could get a fair trial? can you also imagine the fear in any potential jururs heart and the pressure to convict?</P>


You've got Black Panthers out there with their threats. Do you think any jurur would even consider the evidence?</P>


The answer is probably not. The toxic environment that has been created isn't exactly a recipe for the even hand of justice. More like a lynching.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:29 PM
Kase....I really need to make this clear. What you just described is not what I am doing at all.</p>


My problem is the dopes who whoop up the emotion on this by presuming to know all the facts. My point is that we need to find out what happened before we start pointing fingers at other Americans.</p>


There are opportunists coming out of the woodwork on this and its a typical, media driven event.</p>


Everybody needs to calm down here. this is a terrible tragedym but they happen every day in every city around the country. Everybody wants to talk about this because there are ratings and attention to be had.</p>


There are PLENTY of facts that are known to the public at this point in time

You think its all about ratings, and getting attention for the media!?!? Thats a terrible thing to say dude, there was a heinous crime committed and when people try to get attention brought to its light you guys dismiss them as morons, people that are trying to do the cool thing, racists, and general clowns.
</p>


How many murders have taken place since this happened. How about the soldier in Afghanistan who got killed while saving the life of an Afghan little girl. Almost nothing on that.</p>


This story is an outrage on its face. But its being propped up for self interest by these "leaders" and media types. </p>Whats your point, there are a TON of stories that dont get the attention they deserve, its not my fault

This story is being propped up because its a horrible crime that went down and its going unpunished even though there seems to be plenty of evidence to arrest Zimemrman

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:30 PM
Theres a perfect example where public opinion didnt mean a damned thing, those kids went to trial and were proven innocent when everyone thought they were guilty.

are you kidding me, I'm so heated at you right now, those kids lives were RUINED and they did nothing wrong....NOTHING...to people they will always remember them as the lacrosse kids rapist and killers....even though they did nothing wrong? why because the Media decided to run the story that way and everyone bought into it even though the media and the people knew nothing....this is the problem with jumping to conclusions without any information....like you are now on this case.


In your eyes the national attention is ridiculous, in my eyes its deserved any crime like this should have the same attention even though many dont.

there isn't enough time in a day to even dedicate 10 minutes of national attention on crimes like this....during this discussion similar events have taken place at least 5 times I'd bet...if not more...but there won't be any media attention....the ISSUE (racism) needs coverage...not individual events....especially when very little is even know about the individual event/incident.


People up in arms because the 'opportunists' tell them to be, thats the argument I have against the tea party nut jobs and you call me crazy, but in your case its true?!!?!? Riiiiiiiiiiiight, theyre both biased points of view

I don't even understand what you are trying to say here...it makes no sense, are you trying to compare a political opinion to a supposed murder?

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:31 PM
See now you are just being a D-Bag

Why? because I'd rather stand up against the actual issue (racism) instead of one particular incident that we don't know anything about yet? because I'm not just going to blindly follow what ever story the opportunists and ratings grabbers want me to?

Honestly I think you are being the D-Bag here but I wasn't going to say it, but since you started it.
No because the pompous way you try to put your point across like its the all Holy word and anyone that disagrees is trying to do 'the cool thing' rather than stand up for an injustice

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 04:34 PM
Theres a perfect example where public opinion didnt mean a damned thing, those kids went to trial and were proven innocent when everyone thought they were guilty.

are you kidding me, I'm so heated at you right now, those kids lives were RUINED and they did nothing wrong....NOTHING...to people they will always remember them as the lacrosse kids rapist and killers....even though they did nothing wrong? why because the Media decided to run the story that way and everyone bought into it even though the media and the people knew nothing....this is the problem with jumping to conclusions without any information....like you are now on this case.


In your eyes the national attention is ridiculous, in my eyes its deserved any crime like this should have the same attention even though many dont.

there isn't enough time in a day to even dedicate 10 minutes of national attention on crimes like this....during this discussion similar events have taken place at least 5 times I'd bet...if not more...but there won't be any media attention....the ISSUE (racism) needs coverage...not individual events....especially when very little is even know about the individual event/incident.


People up in arms because the 'opportunists' tell them to be, thats the argument I have against the tea party nut jobs and you call me crazy, but in your case its true?!!?!? Riiiiiiiiiiiight, theyre both biased points of view

I don't even understand what you are trying to say here...it makes no sense, are you trying to compare a political opinion to a supposed murder?
Dude Im JUST as heated at you right now, are you kidding me?!?!?

You made it seem like public opinion meant it was gold and the case is closed, yet the public opion was wrong there and right in other cases, its not always 100% correct and doesnt sway a correct judicial hearing

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 04:41 PM
but bandy doesnt get ANY. he doesnt love us anymore.
</P>


What is a bandy?!??!</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:41 PM
You made it seem like public opinion meant it was gold and the case is closed, yet the public opion was wrong there and right in other cases, its not always 100% correct and doesnt sway a correct judicial hearing


Public opinion and the actual trial are completely independent things (at least they are supposed to be)

I did not make it seem like public opinion has anything to do with a guilty or innocent result, no public opinion ruins these kids every day lives...they can't go back to school without being known as rapist murders, where ever they get a job people will look at them differently....their lives are ruined because the media decided to jump to a conclusion without and knowledge of the facts.

the media is supposed to report the news, but nowadays ...with Duke and with this Trayvon Martin case, the Media is MAKING the news they are sculpting public opinion, that is NOT the media's job, and the people who buy into it are weak minded, you need patience, you need to wait, and find out the truth of the incident before flying off the handle into a full fledged uproar when you literally know NOTHING about the situation (and I don't either)

and even if everything you think you know, everything the media said is true....you have to realize that this is something that happens every single day, there are way worse tragedies then this happening even in America every single day....you need to stand up against the cause of these incidents....not the incidents themselves.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:42 PM
Kase....I really need to make this clear. What you just described is not what I am doing at all.</P>


My problem is the dopes who whoop up the emotion on this by presuming to know all the facts. My point is that we need to find out what happened before we start pointing fingers at other Americans.</P>


There are opportunists coming out of the woodwork on this and its a typical, media driven event.</P>


Everybody needs to calm down here. this is a terrible tragedym but they happen every day in every city around the country. Everybody wants to talk about this because there are ratings and attention to be had.</P>


There are PLENTY of facts that are known to the public at this point in time

You think its all about ratings, and getting attention for the media!?!? Thats a terrible thing to say dude, there was a heinous crime committed and when people try to get attention brought to its light you guys dismiss them as morons, people that are trying to do the cool thing, racists, and general clowns.
</P>


How many murders have taken place since this happened. How about the soldier in Afghanistan who got killed while saving the life of an Afghan little girl. Almost nothing on that.</P>


This story is an outrage on its face. But its being propped up for self interest by these "leaders" and media types. </P>


Whats your point, there are a TON of stories that dont get the attention they deserve, its not my fault

This story is being propped up because its a horrible crime that went down and its going unpunished even though there seems to be plenty of evidence to arrest Zimemrman
</P>


Again Kase, my problem is the whooping up of emotion and outrage when many of the facts are not known. Thats what the investigation is for.</P>


You have these opportunists who are guilty of this. This could turn violent which would be fine with some of these guys because thats just more ratings.</P>


My God, we are having historic arguments in the Supreme Court about the future of healthcare in this country for every American, and this case is knocking that off the front page.</P>


You don't see a problem with that?</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:43 PM
but bandy doesnt get ANY. he doesnt love us anymore.
</P>


What is a bandy?!??!</P>


</P>


Its a bald fat man, covered in maple syrup, with a Toronto Maple leaf flag in one hand, and a bottle of Molson in the other.</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:44 PM
See now you are just being a D-Bag

Why? because I'd rather stand up against the actual issue (racism) instead of one particular incident that we don't know anything about yet? because I'm not just going to blindly follow what ever story the opportunists and ratings grabbers want me to?

Honestly I think you are being the D-Bag here but I wasn't going to say it, but since you started it.
No because the pompous way you try to put your point across like its the all Holy word and anyone that disagrees is trying to do 'the cool thing' rather than stand up for an injustice


there is no pomposity in any of my comments on this topic, I'm simply stating a "truth" the truth is that many of the people "acting" outraged on this topic are doing so because either it's the cool thing to do, or because they want attention, or because they simply can't think themselves and do whatever the news media (which is trying to get ratings not actually report news) is telling them to.

that is simply a fact...I'm stating a fact when I say that.

I'm also suggesting that it might be better to figure out the truth of a situation before coming to a conclusion based on hear say.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 04:45 PM
but bandy doesnt get ANY. he doesnt love us anymore.
</P>


What is a bandy?!??!</P>


</P>


Its a bald fat man, covered in maple syrup, with a Toronto Maple leaf flag in one hand, and a bottle of Molson in the other.</P>


</P>


this rings a bell.....I feel like I've heard of this before....</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:46 PM
My God, we are having historic arguments in the Supreme Court about the future of healthcare in this country for every American, and this case is knocking that off the front page.


You don't see a problem with that?</p>

Thank goodness for CSPAN...that's a true no spin zone

(unlike some other people who claim that lol)

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 04:47 PM
Kase....I really need to make this clear. What you just described is not what I am doing at all.</p>


My problem is the dopes who whoop up the emotion on this by presuming to know all the facts. My point is that we need to find out what happened before we start pointing fingers at other Americans.</p>


There are opportunists coming out of the woodwork on this and its a typical, media driven event.</p>


Everybody needs to calm down here. this is a terrible tragedym but they happen every day in every city around the country. Everybody wants to talk about this because there are ratings and attention to be had.</p>There are PLENTY of facts that are known to the public at this point in time
<u>
You think its all about ratings, and getting attention for the media!?!? </u>Thats a terrible thing to say dude, there was a heinous crime committed and when people try to get attention brought to its light you guys dismiss them as morons, people that are trying to do the cool thing, racists, and general clowns.
No its not a terrible thing to say kase. Its a terrible thing for the media or anyone to DO. And it is happening. And you never responded to this article I posted
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/shawn-tyson-gets-life-sentence_n_1387550.html
why dont Al and jessie speak out against those crimes. That was racially motivated. If those two racist denounced Tysons actions and others like him, their message would hold more weight. Fact is, black on white crime is more frequent and theres little to no outrage at all.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:48 PM
See now you are just being a D-Bag

Why? because I'd rather stand up against the actual issue (racism) instead of one particular incident that we don't know anything about yet? because I'm not just going to blindly follow what ever story the opportunists and ratings grabbers want me to?

Honestly I think you are being the D-Bag here but I wasn't going to say it, but since you started it.
No because the pompous way you try to put your point across like its the all Holy word and anyone that disagrees is trying to do 'the cool thing' rather than stand up for an injustice


there is no pomposity in any of my comments on this topic, I'm simply stating a "truth" the truth is that many of the people "acting" outraged on this topic are doing so because either it's the cool thing to do, or because they want attention, or because they simply can't think themselves and do whatever the news media (which is trying to get ratings not actually report news) is telling them to.

that is simply a fact...I'm stating a fact when I say that.

I'm also suggesting that it might be better to figure out the truth of a situation before coming to a conclusion based on hear say.
</P>


"Pomposity"?..............friggin awesome Scrappy!!</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 04:50 PM
See now you are just being a D-Bag

Why? because I'd rather stand up against the actual issue (racism) instead of one particular incident that we don't know anything about yet? because I'm not just going to blindly follow what ever story the opportunists and ratings grabbers want me to?

Honestly I think you are being the D-Bag here but I wasn't going to say it, but since you started it.
No because the pompous way you try to put your point across like its the all Holy word and anyone that disagrees is trying to do 'the cool thing' rather than stand up for an injustice


there is no pomposity in any of my comments on this topic, I'm simply stating a "truth" the truth is that many of the people "acting" outraged on this topic are doing so because either it's the cool thing to do, or because they want attention, or because they simply can't think themselves and do whatever the news media (which is trying to get ratings not actually report news) is telling them to.

that is simply a fact...I'm stating a fact when I say that.

I'm also suggesting that it might be better to figure out the truth of a situation before coming to a conclusion based on hear say.
</P>


It instantly became a high profile "case". People can't help but quickly form an opinion on it. You cannot hold that against them.
I dont even know how this story got so popular so quickly. I can only assume this happens more often than we read about. So....</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:54 PM
See now you are just being a D-Bag

Why? because I'd rather stand up against the actual issue (racism) instead of one particular incident that we don't know anything about yet? because I'm not just going to blindly follow what ever story the opportunists and ratings grabbers want me to?

Honestly I think you are being the D-Bag here but I wasn't going to say it, but since you started it.
No because the pompous way you try to put your point across like its the all Holy word and anyone that disagrees is trying to do 'the cool thing' rather than stand up for an injustice


there is no pomposity in any of my comments on this topic, I'm simply stating a "truth" the truth is that many of the people "acting" outraged on this topic are doing so because either it's the cool thing to do, or because they want attention, or because they simply can't think themselves and do whatever the news media (which is trying to get ratings not actually report news) is telling them to.

that is simply a fact...I'm stating a fact when I say that.

I'm also suggesting that it might be better to figure out the truth of a situation before coming to a conclusion based on hear say.
</P>


It instantly became a high profile "case". People can't help but quickly form an opinion on it. You cannot hold that against them.
I dont even know how this story got so popular so quickly. I can only assume this happens more often than we read about. So....</P>


</P>


You don't.???</P>


Let me explain it to you.</P>


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0167644e51c0970b-600wi</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 04:55 PM
"Pomposity"?..............friggin awesome Scrappy!!

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 04:57 PM
"Pomposity"?..............friggin awesome Scrappy!!

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.
</P>


Don't forget to tipthe waitresses on your way out.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 04:59 PM
You don't.???


Let me explain it to you.</P>


</P>


</P>


I lol'd

i havent *watched* much of the news on this....only read about it really. So I didnt know those 2 assclowns were really involved. (color me shocked!)
Whats funny is that most black people i know HATE those guys lol. They blame them for racism, like "No wonder people are racist! these two give black people a bad name", something to that effect basically.
</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:02 PM
By the way did you see that congress man who up on the podium took of his jacket and was wearing a hoodie to recognize the Trayvon Martin case? WTF is that? how is a member of congress allowed to get away with that?

Congressman Bobby Rush (just looked it up forgot his name)

dezzzR
03-29-2012, 05:04 PM
By the way did you see that congress man who up on the podium took of his jacket and was wearing a hoodie to recognize the Trayvon Martin case? WTF is that? how is a member of congress allowed to get away with that?

Congressman Bobby Rush (just looked it up forgot his name)
Yes a former member of the black panthers no less.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:05 PM
You don't.???


Let me explain it to you.</P>


</P>


</P>


I lol'd

i havent *watched* much of the news on this....only read about it really. So I didnt know those 2 assclowns were really involved. (color me shocked!)
Whats funny is that most black people i know HATE those guys lol. They blame them for racism, like "No wonder people are racist! these two give black people a bad name", something to that effect basically.
</P>


</P>


White liberals love them.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 05:11 PM
White liberals love them.</P>


i assume sarcasm?
I consider myself fairly liberal, and i cant think of any reasons to like them lol

OHHHH you guys and your stretching for arguments!!</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:15 PM
White liberals love them.</P>


i assume sarcasm?
I consider myself fairly liberal, and i cant think of any reasons to like them lol

OHHHH you guys and your stretching for arguments!!</P>


</P>


Let me modify it.</P>


"Activist" white liberals love them.</P>


Or fear them.</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:17 PM
White liberals love them.</p>


i assume sarcasm?
I consider myself fairly liberal, and i cant think of any reasons to like them lol

OHHHH you guys and your stretching for arguments!!</p>

I don't think there is any sarcasm there, that is their demographic, generally white liberals like Al Sharpton and other *cough* activists like him.

maybe you are smarter then the average liberal pizz...

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:19 PM
Hey Pappy, you see Paul Ryan's spending bill got passed?

it cuts 6 Trillion dollars in spending (over the next 10 years)..it's a good start.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 05:22 PM
White liberals love them.</P>


i assume sarcasm?
I consider myself fairly liberal, and i cant think of any reasons to like them lol

OHHHH you guys and your stretching for arguments!!</P>




I don't think there is any sarcasm there, that is their demographic, generally white liberals like Al Sharpton and other *cough* activists like him.

maybe you are smarter then the average liberal pizz...
</P>


hehe. Perhaps.
I dont label myself as a liberal or anything, I just think it's just what I think could be perceived as liberal? I dont know.
But no, I have no agenda, and don't feel like running my mouth about every single thing.
Oh, and i dont usually EVERlike discussing politics. I find it strangely offensive when sometimes its all anyone wants to talk about. *****ing doesnt change anything. Just do your job voting, or get off your butt and do something to change it. amirite? AMIRITE?!? lol</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:27 PM
Hey Pappy, you see Paul Ryan's spending bill got passed?

it cuts 6 Trillion dollars in spending (over the next 10 years)..it's a good start.
</P>


Won't even be brought to the floorin the Senate. The House is the only responsible body right now.</P>


At least they actually have some guts. Unlike the Senate or the White House.</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:28 PM
White liberals love them.</P>


i assume sarcasm?
I consider myself fairly liberal, and i cant think of any reasons to like them lol

OHHHH you guys and your stretching for arguments!!</P>




I don't think there is any sarcasm there, that is their demographic, generally white liberals like Al Sharpton and other *cough* activists like him.

maybe you are smarter then the average liberal pizz...
</P>


hehe. Perhaps.
I dont label myself as a liberal or anything, I just think it's just what I think could be perceived as liberal? I dont know.
But no, I have no agenda, and don't feel like running my mouth about every single thing.
Oh, and i dont usually EVERlike discussing politics. I find it strangely offensive when sometimes its all anyone wants to talk about. *****ing doesnt change anything. Just do your job voting, or get off your butt and do something to change it. amirite? AMIRITE?!? lol</P>


</P>


I could argue politics and sports all day and night.</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:28 PM
Oh Yeah....and music too.

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:29 PM
hehe. Perhaps.
I dont label myself as a liberal or anything, I just think it's just what I think could be perceived as liberal? I dont know.
But no, I have no agenda, and don't feel like running my mouth about every single thing.
Oh, and i dont usually EVERlike discussing politics. I find it strangely offensive when sometimes its all anyone wants to talk about. *****ing doesnt change anything. Just do your job voting, or get off your butt and do something to change it. amirite? AMIRITE?!? lol</p>

I disagree, I know certain people are completely entrenched in their opinion, but not everyone is, and If I can show people on the fence the logic in my opinion, the common sense of it and pull them over to my side, then I'm helping the country (at least in my opinion)

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:31 PM
hehe. Perhaps.
I dont label myself as a liberal or anything, I just think it's just what I think could be perceived as liberal? I dont know.
But no, I have no agenda, and don't feel like running my mouth about every single thing.
Oh, and i dont usually EVERlike discussing politics. I find it strangely offensive when sometimes its all anyone wants to talk about. *****ing doesnt change anything. Just do your job voting, or get off your butt and do something to change it. amirite? AMIRITE?!? lol</P>




I disagree, I know certain people are completely entrenched in their opinion, but not everyone is, and If I can show people on the fence the logic in my opinion, the common sense of it and pull them over to my side, then I'm helping the country (at least in my opinion)
</P>


I convinced my liberal step daughter to vote for Scott Brown.</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:32 PM
Hey Pappy, you see Paul Ryan's spending bill got passed?

it cuts 6 Trillion dollars in spending (over the next 10 years)..it's a good start.
</p>


Won't even be brought to the floorin the Senate. The House is the only responsible body right now.</p>


At least they actually have some guts. Unlike the Senate or the White House.</p>

I really really like Paul Ryan, I kind of have a crush on him, he makes so much sense and he doesn't apologize for being right like all the other conservatives do, what are the chances he will one day run for a higher office? or do you think he's happy just staying a representative of Wisconsin.

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:33 PM
I convinced my liberal step daughter to vote for Scott Brown.</p>

you have done a great service for our country, I thank you for your efforts....that must not have been easy.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 05:37 PM
hehe. Perhaps.
I dont label myself as a liberal or anything, I just think it's just what I think could be perceived as liberal? I dont know.
But no, I have no agenda, and don't feel like running my mouth about every single thing.
Oh, and i dont usually EVERlike discussing politics. I find it strangely offensive when sometimes its all anyone wants to talk about. *****ing doesnt change anything. Just do your job voting, or get off your butt and do something to change it. amirite? AMIRITE?!? lol</P>




I disagree, I know certain people are completely entrenched in their opinion, but not everyone is, and <FONT color=#0000ff>If I can show people on the fence the logic in my opinion, the common sense of it and pull them over to my side, then I'm helping the country (at least in my opinion)
</FONT></P>


lol thats ridiculous....im not even gonna comment</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 05:37 PM
hehe. Perhaps.
I dont label myself as a liberal or anything, I just think it's just what I think could be perceived as liberal? I dont know.
But no, I have no agenda, and don't feel like running my mouth about every single thing.
Oh, and i dont usually EVERlike discussing politics. I find it strangely offensive when sometimes its all anyone wants to talk about. *****ing doesnt change anything. Just do your job voting, or get off your butt and do something to change it. amirite? AMIRITE?!? lol</P>




I disagree, I know certain people are completely entrenched in their opinion, but not everyone is, and <FONT color=#0000ff>If I can show people on the fence the logic in my opinion, the common sense of it and pull them over to my side, then I'm helping the country (at least in my opinion)
</FONT></P>


lol thats ridiculous....im not even gonna comment</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:38 PM
Hey Pappy, you see Paul Ryan's spending bill got passed?

it cuts 6 Trillion dollars in spending (over the next 10 years)..it's a good start.
</P>


Won't even be brought to the floorin the Senate. The House is the only responsible body right now.</P>


At least they actually have some guts. Unlike the Senate or the White House.</P>




I really really like Paul Ryan, I kind of have a crush on him, he makes so much sense and he doesn't apologize for being right like all the other conservatives do, what are the chances he will one day run for a higher office? or do you think he's happy just staying a representative of Wisconsin.
</P>


We all love Paul Ryan. I love Tom Coburn in the Senate as well. I loved Coburns comment when a poll was released that only 11% of the voters approved of congress. He said "I'd like to knowhow there are11%out therethat actually like us"</P>


Or something to that effect.</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:39 PM
hehe. Perhaps.
I dont label myself as a liberal or anything, I just think it's just what I think could be perceived as liberal? I dont know.
But no, I have no agenda, and don't feel like running my mouth about every single thing.
Oh, and i dont usually EVERlike discussing politics. I find it strangely offensive when sometimes its all anyone wants to talk about. *****ing doesnt change anything. Just do your job voting, or get off your butt and do something to change it. amirite? AMIRITE?!? lol</P>




I disagree, I know certain people are completely entrenched in their opinion, but not everyone is, and <FONT color=#0000ff>If I can show people on the fence the logic in my opinion, the common sense of it and pull them over to my side, then I'm helping the country (at least in my opinion)
</FONT></P>


lol thats ridiculous....im not even gonna comment</P>


</P>


Why is it rediculous?</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:42 PM
Hey Pappy, you see Paul Ryan's spending bill got passed?

it cuts 6 Trillion dollars in spending (over the next 10 years)..it's a good start.
</p>


Won't even be brought to the floorin the Senate. The House is the only responsible body right now.</p>


At least they actually have some guts. Unlike the Senate or the White House.</p>




I really really like Paul Ryan, I kind of have a crush on him, he makes so much sense and he doesn't apologize for being right like all the other conservatives do, what are the chances he will one day run for a higher office? or do you think he's happy just staying a representative of Wisconsin.
</p>


We all love Paul Ryan. I love Tom Coburn in the Senate as well. I loved Coburns comment when a poll was released that only 11% of the voters approved of congress. He said "I'd like to knowhow there are11%out therethat actually like us"</p>


Or something to that effect.</p>

Oh man how did I miss that, that's hilarious I gotta find a clip of him saying that, too funny.

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 05:44 PM
See now you are just being a D-Bag

Why? because I'd rather stand up against the actual issue (racism) instead of one particular incident that we don't know anything about yet? because I'm not just going to blindly follow what ever story the opportunists and ratings grabbers want me to?

Honestly I think you are being the D-Bag here but I wasn't going to say it, but since you started it.
No because the pompous way you try to put your point across like its the all Holy word and anyone that disagrees is trying to do 'the cool thing' rather than stand up for an injustice


there is no pomposity in any of my comments on this topic, I'm simply stating a "truth" the truth is that many of the people "acting" outraged on this topic are doing so because either it's the cool thing to do, or because they want attention, or because they simply can't think themselves and do whatever the news media (which is trying to get ratings not actually report news) is telling them to.

that is simply a fact...I'm stating a fact when I say that.

I'm also suggesting that it might be better to figure out the truth of a situation before coming to a conclusion based on hear say.
No your 'truth' is an opinion

Just because because you see these people this way doesnt mean they are only doing this because its 'the cool thing to do', are you really that blind where you cant even acknowledge that this was a heinous crime

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 05:46 PM
Kase....I really need to make this clear. What you just described is not what I am doing at all.</p>


My problem is the dopes who whoop up the emotion on this by presuming to know all the facts. My point is that we need to find out what happened before we start pointing fingers at other Americans.</p>


There are opportunists coming out of the woodwork on this and its a typical, media driven event.</p>


Everybody needs to calm down here. this is a terrible tragedym but they happen every day in every city around the country. Everybody wants to talk about this because there are ratings and attention to be had.</p>There are PLENTY of facts that are known to the public at this point in time
<u>
You think its all about ratings, and getting attention for the media!?!? </u>Thats a terrible thing to say dude, there was a heinous crime committed and when people try to get attention brought to its light you guys dismiss them as morons, people that are trying to do the cool thing, racists, and general clowns.
No its not a terrible thing to say kase. Its a terrible thing for the media or anyone to DO. And it is happening. And you never responded to this article I posted
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/shawn-tyson-gets-life-sentence_n_1387550.html
why dont Al and jessie speak out against those crimes. That was racially motivated. If those two racist denounced Tysons actions and others like him, their message would hold more weight. Fact is, black on white crime is more frequent and theres little to no outrage at all.
Probably because that was never known anywhere outside of Florida, now you guys can take that and run to the moon with it, but contrary to popular belief its not my fault alot of stories dont make the news

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 05:48 PM
hehe. Perhaps.
I dont label myself as a liberal or anything, I just think it's just what I think could be perceived as liberal? I dont know.
But no, I have no agenda, and don't feel like running my mouth about every single thing.
Oh, and i dont usually EVERlike discussing politics. I find it strangely offensive when sometimes its all anyone wants to talk about. *****ing doesnt change anything. Just do your job voting, or get off your butt and do something to change it. amirite? AMIRITE?!? lol</P>




I disagree, I know certain people are completely entrenched in their opinion, but not everyone is, and <FONT color=#0000ff>If I can show people on the fence the logic in my opinion, the common sense of it and pull them over to my side, then I'm helping the country (at least in my opinion)
</FONT></P>


lol thats ridiculous....im not even gonna comment</P>


</P>


Why is it rediculous?</P>


</P>


Well.....just because something is your opinion doesn't automatically make you right.
I would agree that discussion can influence people, but.....when i talk about my opinion on these forums for example, im just doing it because I personally think it's right. I don't expect people to see things my way all the time.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 05:50 PM
You don't.???


Let me explain it to you.</p>


</p>


</p>


I lol'd

i havent *watched* much of the news on this....only read about it really. So I didnt know those 2 assclowns were really involved. (color me shocked!)
Whats funny is that most black people i know HATE those guys lol. They blame them for racism, like "No wonder people are racist! these two give black people a bad name", something to that effect basically.
</p>


</p>


White liberals love them.</p>...Explain, being a White Liberal Id LOVE to hear this one, NOBODY likes Al Sharpton!!!!!

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 05:50 PM
on 2nd thought....I really can't blame you for thinking that way....especially someone who turned "Daven" into a verb, lmao

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:54 PM
No your 'truth' is an opinion

No Kase, I'm sorry, in the real world, what I've said is a FACT, it's not an opinion at all....I'm sorry you can't understand that...I'm not going to try and convince you though, you are clearly in a state of denial at the moment.


Just because because you see these people this way doesnt mean they are only doing this because its 'the cool thing to do'

Not all of them no, but many of them yes.


are you really that blind where you cant even acknowledge that this was a heinous crime

I can acknowledge that it is a tragedy that such a young kid has died BUT! I don't even know if this was a murder yet...there isn't any information on this yet, there has been no trial yet...so know I can't acknowledge that this was a heinous "crime" because no one knows what happened yet Kase.

Can you acknowledge that just over the past few days since the Trayvon Martin incident that many other children have died...and the media has not covered them?

This is a media driven story Kase....nothing more nothing less, I don't mean to sound morbid but this is one of hundreds if not thousands of tragedies that happen every year...that are just like this...but don't get any coverage.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:55 PM
You don't.???


Let me explain it to you.</P>


</P>


</P>


I lol'd

i havent *watched* much of the news on this....only read about it really. So I didnt know those 2 assclowns were really involved. (color me shocked!)
Whats funny is that most black people i know HATE those guys lol. They blame them for racism, like "No wonder people are racist! these two give black people a bad name", something to that effect basically.
</P>


</P>


White liberals love them.</P>


...Explain, being a White Liberal Id LOVE to hear this one, NOBODY likes Al Sharpton!!!!!
</P>


Well I amended my comment later. And who do you think watches his show on MSNBC?</P>


Nothing but white lib's. (Not that there's anything wrong with that)</P>


And you only think you're a liberal.I say in 10 years you will be a member of the good guys.</P>


I was where you are. I have faith in you.</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 05:59 PM
You don't.???


Let me explain it to you.</p>


</p>


</p>


I lol'd

i havent *watched* much of the news on this....only read about it really. So I didnt know those 2 assclowns were really involved. (color me shocked!)
Whats funny is that most black people i know HATE those guys lol. They blame them for racism, like "No wonder people are racist! these two give black people a bad name", something to that effect basically.
</p>


</p>


White liberals love them.</p>...Explain, being a White Liberal Id LOVE to hear this one, NOBODY likes Al Sharpton!!!!!


Again Kase, not an opinion a fact, if you look at his shows and look at the demographic's it is almost purely white liberals who watch his show, there is nothing wrong with that at all, but it IS the case.

It's like saying housewives like Oprah it's just true.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 05:59 PM
And who do you think watches his show on MSNBC?</P>


He has an MSNBC show?!?!?!?!?!?!</P>


Why can't IIIIII get my own tv show?!?!</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 06:01 PM
No your 'truth' is an opinion

No Kase, I'm sorry, in the real world, what I've said is a FACT, it's not an opinion at all....I'm sorry you can't understand that...I'm not going to try and convince you though, you are clearly in a state of denial at the moment.


Just because because you see these people this way doesnt mean they are only doing this because its 'the cool thing to do'

Not all of them no, but many of them yes.


are you really that blind where you cant even acknowledge that this was a heinous crime

I can acknowledge that it is a tragedy that such a young kid has died BUT! I don't even know if this was a murder yet...there isn't any information on this yet, there has been no trial yet...so know I can't acknowledge that this was a heinous "crime" because no one knows what happened yet Kase.

Can you acknowledge that just over the past few days since the Trayvon Martin incident that many other children have died...and the media has not covered them?

This is a media driven story Kase....nothing more nothing less, I don't mean to sound morbid but this is one of hundreds if not thousands of tragedies that happen every year...that are just like this...but don't get any coverage.
LMAO, you can say 'real world' and 'truth' all you want, but just because you think something is a fact doesnt make it so

About the majority of Trayvon Martin supporters being mindless sheep that follow because its 'cool' or 'in'.....FALSE again!!!!

OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 06:02 PM
You don't.???


Let me explain it to you.</p>


</p>


</p>


I lol'd

i havent *watched* much of the news on this....only read about it really. So I didnt know those 2 assclowns were really involved. (color me shocked!)
Whats funny is that most black people i know HATE those guys lol. They blame them for racism, like "No wonder people are racist! these two give black people a bad name", something to that effect basically.
</p>


</p>


White liberals love them.</p>...Explain, being a White Liberal Id LOVE to hear this one, NOBODY likes Al Sharpton!!!!!


Again Kase, not an opinion a fact, if you look at his shows and look at the demographic's it is almost purely white liberals who watch his show, there is nothing wrong with that at all, but it IS the case.

It's like saying housewives like Oprah it's just true.
Correction I have never met someone white, black, spanish, asian who liked Al Sharpton..... Have you????

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 06:02 PM
And who do you think watches his show on MSNBC?</P>


He has an MSNBC show?!?!?!?!?!?!</P>


Why can't IIIIII get my own tv show?!?!</P>


</P>


All you have to do is be an idiot for 30 years. support people who are proven to be guilty (Tawana Brawly) and find a camera to have stuck in your face at every opportunity.</P>


You haven't been an idiot for nearly enough years. HAHAHA!!!!!</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 06:05 PM
OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story


</P>


I brought this point up earlier. Sincewe can't control what's on the news, why is it SO crazy to believe that people are passionate about this story, whether they are one side of the argument or the other? Daven just thinks people are being sheep like you said, but it's just because if you follow any news whatsoever, you can't escape this kind of ****.
Morehead stated earlier that there are so many other things going on in the country, yet this is what we (as well as many many other people) are discussing.
Well, there's pop culture for you. And you can't blame one news agency for it. This **** is like CRACK to them once they find out people are going nuts over it.
</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 06:05 PM
No your 'truth' is an opinion

No Kase, I'm sorry, in the real world, what I've said is a FACT, it's not an opinion at all....I'm sorry you can't understand that...I'm not going to try and convince you though, you are clearly in a state of denial at the moment.


Just because because you see these people this way doesnt mean they are only doing this because its 'the cool thing to do'

Not all of them no, but many of them yes.


are you really that blind where you cant even acknowledge that this was a heinous crime

I can acknowledge that it is a tragedy that such a young kid has died BUT! I don't even know if this was a murder yet...there isn't any information on this yet, there has been no trial yet...so know I can't acknowledge that this was a heinous "crime" because no one knows what happened yet Kase.

Can you acknowledge that just over the past few days since the Trayvon Martin incident that many other children have died...and the media has not covered them?

This is a media driven story Kase....nothing more nothing less, I don't mean to sound morbid but this is one of hundreds if not thousands of tragedies that happen every year...that are just like this...but don't get any coverage.
LMAO, you can say 'real world' and 'truth' all you want, but just because you think something is a fact doesnt make it so

About the majority of Trayvon Martin supporters being mindless sheep that follow because its 'cool' or 'in'.....FALSE again!!!!

OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story


</P>


The case is what it is. this moron Zimmerman did whatever he did, and we'll find out exactly what happened (hopefully) soon.</P>


Its not that that bugs me. Its the bad actors around the story. Its the dopes who are stirring up the hate and finger pointing.</P>

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 06:05 PM
And who do you think watches his show on MSNBC?</p>


He has an MSNBC show?!?!?!?!?!?!</p>


Why can't IIIIII get my own tv show?!?!</p>`If clowns like Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and just about ANY woman on Fox News can get shows ANYONE can get a show.


..... Maybe theyll have a show where me and glen beck and/or rush limbaugh wear t-shirts saying opposing sides of an issue then have a fist fight and the winner wins the 'debate'

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 06:05 PM
And who do you think watches his show on MSNBC?</P>


He has an MSNBC show?!?!?!?!?!?!</P>


Why can't IIIIII get my own tv show?!?!</P>


</P>


All you have to do is be an idiot for 30 years. support people who are proven to be guilty (Tawana Brawly) and find a camera to have stuck in your face at every opportunity.</P>


You haven't been an idiot for nearly enough years. HAHAHA!!!!!</P>


</P>


****!!
i only have like 20 years of idiocracy under my belt. I'm getting close to my own tv show!!!!</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 06:06 PM
OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story


</P>


I brought this point up earlier. Sincewe can't control what's on the news, why is it SO crazy to believe that people are passionate about this story, whether they are one side of the argument or the other? Daven just thinks people are being sheep like you said, but it's just because if you follow any news whatsoever, you can't escape this kind of ****.
Morehead stated earlier that there are so many other things going on in the country, yet this is what we (as well as many many other people) are discussing.
Well, there's pop culture for you. And you can't blame one news agency for it. This **** is like CRACK to them once they find out people are going nuts over it.
</P>


</P>


We do get to decide what's important to us. That much control of our own lives, we DO HAVE.</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 06:07 PM
And who do you think watches his show on MSNBC?</P>


He has an MSNBC show?!?!?!?!?!?!</P>


Why can't IIIIII get my own tv show?!?!</P>


</P>


All you have to do is be an idiot for 30 years. support people who are proven to be guilty (Tawana Brawly) and find a camera to have stuck in your face at every opportunity.</P>


You haven't been an idiot for nearly enough years. HAHAHA!!!!!</P>


</P>


****!!
i only have like 20 years of idiocracy under my belt. I'm getting close to my own tv show!!!!</P>


</P>


I'm really not pandering here Pizz when I say this, but you have to prop up your idiotness substantially to compete with Sharpton's.</P>


While I do believe that a failure to appreciate Morehead is the act of an idiot...still...........</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 06:10 PM
LMAO, you can say 'real world' and 'truth' all you want, but just because you think something is a fact doesnt make it so


Correct the part that makes it a fact is that it's an inarguable truth, some people ARE "acting" like they are outraged because its "cool" some people are acting outraged because they want attention and some people are acting in such a way because they believe everything the media has told them...al those things are inarguable truths...period...and all your whining that "it's just my opinion" does not make it so.


About the majority of Trayvon Martin supporters being mindless sheep that follow because its 'cool' or 'in'.....FALSE again!!!!

That's your opinion, I o think it's the majority, I know for a fact it is some, but I don't not know for sure it's the majority, but since it's my opinion that the majority of American when it comes to most topics just react emotionally to whatever the news tells them to I'd guess it is the majority....no actually takes the time to think about anything but themselves anymore...at least that's my opinion of most people.


OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story

No you aren't in charge of whats on the news...but you are in charge of how you react to it and the people reacting to this particular story with outrage seem quite silly, considering this is an every day occurrence....you should not be surprised about this, you should be angry that this sort of thing happens everyday....but you should not be outraged at this one person, because you don't even know the facts of the case here....you should be outraged that this sort of thing happens everyday in America...not at this one individual case.

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 06:11 PM
And who do you think watches his show on MSNBC?</P>


He has an MSNBC show?!?!?!?!?!?!</P>


Why can't IIIIII get my own tv show?!?!</P>


</P>


All you have to do is be an idiot for 30 years. support people who are proven to be guilty (Tawana Brawly) and find a camera to have stuck in your face at every opportunity.</P>


You haven't been an idiot for nearly enough years. HAHAHA!!!!!</P>


</P>


****!!
i only have like 20 years of idiocracy under my belt. I'm getting close to my own tv show!!!!</P>


</P>


I'm really not pandering here Pizz when I say this, but you have to prop up your idiotness substantially to compete with Sharpton's.</P>


While I do believe that a failure to appreciate Morehead is the act of an idiot...still...........</P>


</P>


http://cdn2.fiverrcdn.com/photos/508795/medium/challenge_accepted.jpg</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 06:11 PM
LMAO, you can say 'real world' and 'truth' all you want, but just because you think something is a fact doesnt make it so


Correct the part that makes it a fact is that it's an inarguable truth, some people ARE "acting" like they are outraged because its "cool" some people are acting outraged because they want attention and some people are acting in such a way because they believe everything the media has told them...al those things are inarguable truths...period...and all your whining that "it's just my opinion" does not make it so.


About the majority of Trayvon Martin supporters being mindless sheep that follow because its 'cool' or 'in'.....FALSE again!!!!

That's your opinion, I o think it's the majority, I know for a fact it is some, but I don't not know for sure it's the majority, but since it's my opinion that the majority of American when it comes to most topics just react emotionally to whatever the news tells them to I'd guess it is the majority....no actually takes the time to think about anything but themselves anymore...at least that's my opinion of most people.


OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story

No you aren't in charge of whats on the news...but you are in charge of how you react to it and the people reacting to this particular story with outrage seem quite silly, considering this is an every day occurrence....you should not be surprised about this, you should be angry that this sort of thing happens everyday....but you should not be outraged at this one person, because you don't even know the facts of the case here....you should be outraged that this sort of thing happens everyday in America...not at this one individual case.



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Morehead and his legions can and will change the world.</P>

DavenIII
03-29-2012, 06:15 PM
OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story


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I brought this point up earlier. Sincewe can't control what's on the news, why is it SO crazy to believe that people are passionate about this story, whether they are one side of the argument or the other? Daven just thinks people are being sheep like you said, but it's just because if you follow any news whatsoever, you can't escape this kind of ****.
Morehead stated earlier that there are so many other things going on in the country, yet this is what we (as well as many many other people) are discussing.
Well, there's pop culture for you. And you can't blame one news agency for it. This **** is like CRACK to them once they find out people are going nuts over it.
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You get to decide how you react to what you see on the news, you get to decide whether what they tell you is worth your time or not.

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 06:22 PM
LMAO, you can say 'real world' and 'truth' all you want, but just because you think something is a fact doesnt make it so


Correct the part that makes it a fact is that it's an inarguable truth, some people ARE "acting" like they are outraged because its "cool" some people are acting outraged because they want attention and some people are acting in such a way because they believe everything the media has told them...al those things are inarguable truths...period...and all your whining that "it's just my opinion" does not make it so.


About the majority of Trayvon Martin supporters being mindless sheep that follow because its 'cool' or 'in'.....FALSE again!!!!

That's your opinion, I o think it's the majority, I know for a fact it is some, but I don't not know for sure it's the majority, but since it's my opinion that the majority of American when it comes to most topics just react emotionally to whatever the news tells them to I'd guess it is the majority....no actually takes the time to think about anything but themselves anymore...at least that's my opinion of most people.


OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story

No you aren't in charge of whats on the news...but you are in charge of how you react to it and the people reacting to this particular story with outrage seem quite silly, considering this is an every day occurrence....you should not be surprised about this, you should be angry that this sort of thing happens everyday....but you should not be outraged at this one person, because you don't even know the facts of the case here....you should be outraged that this sort of thing happens everyday in America...not at this one individual case.



You forgot the fact that people are outraged because of this awful crime that was committed and has so far gone unpunished

All of the people that I know who are upset about this case are legitimately upset, not because its the 'cool thing to do' it was a terrible act, we all know it

Im reacting to this story how I believe is appropriate, to you it may be 'silly' but to me and countless others its justified. People are upset at how this case is being handled, obviously people are upset with the amount of violence going on in the country, there are anti-gun and gang rallies all the time across the nation. This is just 1 case that is just terrible and it deserves to be broadcast across the nation, not just Orlando

Kase-1
03-29-2012, 06:23 PM
LMAO, you can say 'real world' and 'truth' all you want, but just because you think something is a fact doesnt make it so


Correct the part that makes it a fact is that it's an inarguable truth, some people ARE "acting" like they are outraged because its "cool" some people are acting outraged because they want attention and some people are acting in such a way because they believe everything the media has told them...al those things are inarguable truths...period...and all your whining that "it's just my opinion" does not make it so.


About the majority of Trayvon Martin supporters being mindless sheep that follow because its 'cool' or 'in'.....FALSE again!!!!

That's your opinion, I o think it's the majority, I know for a fact it is some, but I don't not know for sure it's the majority, but since it's my opinion that the majority of American when it comes to most topics just react emotionally to whatever the news tells them to I'd guess it is the majority....no actually takes the time to think about anything but themselves anymore...at least that's my opinion of most people.


OK, once again contrary to what they may tell you on fox news, Kase-1 isnt in charge of what make the news!!!!! So stop beating that point to death, like I said to morehead there have been plenty of other murders that didnt get the national attention Travyon Martin did, each case is a different story

No you aren't in charge of whats on the news...but you are in charge of how you react to it and the people reacting to this particular story with outrage seem quite silly, considering this is an every day occurrence....you should not be surprised about this, you should be angry that this sort of thing happens everyday....but you should not be outraged at this one person, because you don't even know the facts of the case here....you should be outraged that this sort of thing happens everyday in America...not at this one individual case.



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Morehead and his legions can and will change the world.</p>Oh Lord, I hope 'the world' means Canada and only Canada, LOL

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 06:27 PM
Morehead and his legions can and will change the world.</P>


Oh Lord, I hope 'the world' means Canada and only Canada, LOL
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Dammit...now where am I going to run away to???</P>

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 06:40 PM
Morehead and his legions can and will change the world.</P>


Oh Lord, I hope 'the world' means Canada and only Canada, LOL
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Dammit...now where am I going to run away to???</P>


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You will be welcome in the New Morehead World Order my son.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 06:50 PM
Morehead and his legions can and will change the world.</P>


Oh Lord, I hope 'the world' means Canada and only Canada, LOL
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Dammit...now where am I going to run away to???</P>


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You will be welcome in the New Morehead World Order my son.</P>


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We're well on our way to The New World Order, sir....</P>


it's only a matter of time where we end up in a worldwide dictatorship &gt;.&lt;</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 06:52 PM
Anyone been watching this seasons's Showtime shows?

Such awesome seasons of Californication, Shamless, and the new show House of Lies (starring Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell).

And with Game of Thrones starting back up?? Good times!

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 07:04 PM
Anyone been watching this seasons's Showtime shows?

Such awesome seasons of Californication, Shamless, and the new show House of Lies (starring Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell).

And with Game of Thrones starting back up?? Good times!

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Don't watch Shameless but I do love Cali and House of Lies. That friggin chick (I think her name is Dawn Olivieri) is unbelievably hot.</P>

JPizzack
03-29-2012, 07:25 PM
Anyone been watching this seasons's Showtime shows?

Such awesome seasons of Californication, Shamless, and the new show House of Lies (starring Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell).

And with Game of Thrones starting back up?? Good times!

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Don't watch Shameless but I do love Cali and House of Lies. That friggin chick (I think her name is Dawn Olivieri) is unbelievably hot.</P>


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Ohhh the one who plays Monica? Dude....she's an 11 out of 10. easily. rrrrawwwwrrrrr</P>

byron
03-30-2012, 12:09 AM
Everything is gonna be alright the politicians will figure it all outfor us.... hell itshould be fairly easy they made this mess, I'm sure they kept records....?!?</P>

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 09:52 AM
Everything is gonna be alright the politicians will figure it all outfor us.... hell itshould be fairly easy they made this mess, I'm sure they kept records....?!?</P>


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Hi B....sorry I missed your message last night. That's the downside of leaving apps open on a smartphone...i never know when ppl message me on facebook, etc...
What's up man?!</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 10:12 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 10:19 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

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texted ya</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 10:43 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 10:49 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text


I still think you are just being a sore loser honestly, it's quite obvious that at least some of the people who are acting up in arms over this common everyday situation (the trayvon martin thing) are doing so because they want to be cool or want attention, it's no different then the Kony thing...or the next big media driven agenda....I'd say it's more then likely the majority of people....but it's definitely at least a portion of them....it's actually just stupid to claim it's not.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 10:59 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text


I still think you are just being a sore loser honestly, it's quite obvious that at least some of the people who are acting up in arms over this common everyday situation (the trayvon martin thing) are doing so because they want to be cool or want attention, it's no different then the Kony thing...or the next big media driven agenda....I'd say it's more then likely the majority of people....but it's definitely at least a portion of them....it's actually just stupid to claim it's not.
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 11:00 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text


I still think you are just being a sore loser honestly, it's quite obvious that at least some of the people who are acting up in arms over this common everyday situation (the trayvon martin thing) are doing so because they want to be cool or want attention, it's no different then the Kony thing...or the next big media driven agenda....I'd say it's more then likely the majority of people....but it's definitely at least a portion of them....it's actually just stupid to claim it's not.
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
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I love arguing with Kase. he starts lobbing personal insults and we just can't take him seriously because he's such a nice guy.</P>

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 11:05 AM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 11:07 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text


I still think you are just being a sore loser honestly, it's quite obvious that at least some of the people who are acting up in arms over this common everyday situation (the trayvon martin thing) are doing so because they want to be cool or want attention, it's no different then the Kony thing...or the next big media driven agenda....I'd say it's more then likely the majority of people....but it's definitely at least a portion of them....it's actually just stupid to claim it's not.
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
This is why people can be afraid of people wearing hoodies. This happened yesterday.
http://www.wgntv.com/news/local/breaking/chi-far-south-side-man-shot-killed-near-home-20120329,0,2255509.story

a six year old girl was caught in the cross fire. Wheres the media?
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/19/10758488-chicago-bloodbath-6-year-old-among-those-killed

Black on black crime is the real issue and it continues to be ignored.