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Kase-1
03-30-2012, 11:14 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text


I still think you are just being a sore loser honestly, it's quite obvious that at least some of the people who are acting up in arms over this common everyday situation (the trayvon martin thing) are doing so because they want to be cool or want attention, it's no different then the Kony thing...or the next big media driven agenda....I'd say it's more then likely the majority of people....but it's definitely at least a portion of them....it's actually just stupid to claim it's not.
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
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I love arguing with Kase. he starts lobbing personal insults and we just can't take him seriously because he's such a nice guy.</p>Hey, I called Daven a D-bag when he was acting like one. Other than that I tend to keep personal insults out of it.

I can be nice and I as well can be a D-bag myself

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 11:15 AM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/527294_1943976257173_1775512248_927976_1072888626_ n.jpg

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 11:17 AM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/551969_3640848985730_1409470845_33461719_192460008 8_n.jpg

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 11:20 AM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 11:21 AM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/551969_3640848985730_1409470845_33461719_192460008 8_n.jpgWOW, way to be a D-bag dezz

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 11:24 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text


I still think you are just being a sore loser honestly, it's quite obvious that at least some of the people who are acting up in arms over this common everyday situation (the trayvon martin thing) are doing so because they want to be cool or want attention, it's no different then the Kony thing...or the next big media driven agenda....I'd say it's more then likely the majority of people....but it's definitely at least a portion of them....it's actually just stupid to claim it's not.
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
This is why people can be afraid of people wearing hoodies. This happened yesterday.
http://www.wgntv.com/news/local/breaking/chi-far-south-side-man-shot-killed-near-home-20120329,0,2255509.story

a six year old girl was caught in the cross fire. Wheres the media?
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/19/10758488-chicago-bloodbath-6-year-old-among-those-killed

Black on black crime is the real issue and it continues to be ignored.

OK its obvious you dont get the whole issue at hand, just give it up man, you're making yourself look silly

And those are both horrible crimes but im not denying them or making jokes about them like some on this board *cough cough*

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 11:30 AM
Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority


to you it's a majority in reality it's a minority you mean.

And no, of course people can be genuinely angry, the problem is people claim to be genuinely angry 3 or 4 times a week...about whatever the news told them to be genuinely angry about each day, it kind of stops being genuine at some point doesn't it?

and while I generally agree (like I did with the Kony thing) that bringing attention to a situation is a good even if it's faked attention just because it lets people know about it, in this case it's become a danger to completely innocent people.

there have been tweets of Zimmerman's supposed address...it was wrong so some old couple is hiding in there house afraid of the people who've come to threaten Zimmerman who may I remind you is not guilty of anything yet, it's not good for to stir everyone into a fake or even real uproar over something we know little to nothing about, in fact it's dangerous and its down right irresponsible....the news networks (ALL OF THEM) should be ashamed of themselves, they are no better then shock jocks like Howard Stern or O&amp;A anymore....but at least those guys don't claim to be a source of information.

and by the way I have not been a douchbag at any point during this conversation....you are just angry, I think it's because in the end you know I'm right but you don't want that to be true.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 11:34 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text


I still think you are just being a sore loser honestly, it's quite obvious that at least some of the people who are acting up in arms over this common everyday situation (the trayvon martin thing) are doing so because they want to be cool or want attention, it's no different then the Kony thing...or the next big media driven agenda....I'd say it's more then likely the majority of people....but it's definitely at least a portion of them....it's actually just stupid to claim it's not.
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
This is why people can be afraid of people wearing hoodies. This happened yesterday.
http://www.wgntv.com/news/local/breaking/chi-far-south-side-man-shot-killed-near-home-20120329,0,2255509.story

a six year old girl was caught in the cross fire. Wheres the media?
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/19/10758488-chicago-bloodbath-6-year-old-among-those-killed

Black on black crime is the real issue and it continues to be ignored.

OK its obvious you dont get the whole issue at hand, just give it up man, you're making yourself look silly

And those are both horrible crimes but im not denying them or making jokes about them like some on this board *cough cough*
I get the issue. Its a double standard. Its staring you straight in the face. Fact is more African Americans are killed by black on black violence over white on black violence. And theres more black on white crime that always goes un reported.
The media just wants to get viewers and sell their papers.

And now its coming out this kid wasnt the angel everyone was making him out to be. He was suspended over 3 times for having a burglery tool and womens jewlery, graff, and pot. He even bragged about being suspended on facebook or twitter.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 11:38 AM
Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority


to you it's a majority in reality it's a minority you mean.

And no, of course people can be genuinely angry, the problem is people claim to be genuinely angry 3 or 4 times a week...about whatever the news told them to be genuinely angry about each day, it kind of stops being genuine at some point doesn't it?

and while I generally agree (like I did with the Kony thing) that bringing attention to a situation is a good even if it's faked attention just because it lets people know about it, in this case it's become a danger to completely innocent people.

there have been tweets of Zimmerman's supposed address...it was wrong so some old couple is hiding in there house afraid of the people who've come to threaten Zimmerman who may I remind you is not guilty of anything yet, it's not good for to stir everyone into a fake or even real uproar over something we know little to nothing about, in fact it's dangerous and its down right irresponsible....the news networks (ALL OF THEM) should be ashamed of themselves, they are no better then shock jocks like Howard Stern or O&amp;A anymore....but at least those guys don't claim to be a source of information.

and by the way I have not been a douchbag at any point during this conversation....you are just angry, I think it's because in the end you know I'm right but you don't want that to be true.
NOPE, I mean what I said

I was mad at you cause you were being a pompous jerk at times and acted like your word was the law and was passed down from The Lord but in actuallity your word is just as good as mine

You think you're right I think Im right, nothing is gonna change so you can keep typing til you have blisters on all 10 fingers but that wont change a damned thing with me

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 11:39 AM
I get the issue. Its a double standard. Its staring you straight in the face. Fact is more African Americans are killed by black on black violence over white on black violence. And theres more black on white crime that always goes un reported.
The media just wants to get viewers and sell their papers.

And now its coming out this kid wasnt the angel everyone was making him out to be. He was suspended over 3 times for having a burglery tool and womens jewlery, graff, and pot. He even bragged about being suspended on facebook or twitter.


It doesn't matter that he wasn't a angel, we've all made our mistakes as kids and none of us deserved to be shot for it, but your first point stands.

the ONLY reason this is in the news is to create ratings and viewers, and the only reason most people are in an uproar about this is because the news told them to be....that much is certain, and it's almost a shame because there are many much more important issues to be discussed and reported on right now....this is sad, but it's not unusual and it's not a pressing issue, like what is everyone protesting? is it racism? we don't even know if this crime was racially motivated more over we don't even know if was a crime! people are in an uproar but they don't even know why.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 11:43 AM
hey pappy, kase, pizz- shoot me a text i lost all my numbers

last day to be able to frequent the boards and at this job

You missed a 'doozy' in here yesterday.... Me and Daven were going OFF on each other

Just sent ya a text


I still think you are just being a sore loser honestly, it's quite obvious that at least some of the people who are acting up in arms over this common everyday situation (the trayvon martin thing) are doing so because they want to be cool or want attention, it's no different then the Kony thing...or the next big media driven agenda....I'd say it's more then likely the majority of people....but it's definitely at least a portion of them....it's actually just stupid to claim it's not.
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
This is why people can be afraid of people wearing hoodies. This happened yesterday.
http://www.wgntv.com/news/local/breaking/chi-far-south-side-man-shot-killed-near-home-20120329,0,2255509.story

a six year old girl was caught in the cross fire. Wheres the media?
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/19/10758488-chicago-bloodbath-6-year-old-among-those-killed

Black on black crime is the real issue and it continues to be ignored.

OK its obvious you dont get the whole issue at hand, just give it up man, you're making yourself look silly

And those are both horrible crimes but im not denying them or making jokes about them like some on this board *cough cough*
I get the issue. Its a double standard. Its staring you straight in the face. Fact is more African Americans are killed by black on black violence over white on black violence. And theres more black on white crime that always goes un reported.
The media just wants to get viewers and sell their papers.

And now its coming out this kid wasnt the angel everyone was making him out to be. He was suspended over 3 times for having a burglery tool and womens jewlery, graff, and pot. He even bragged about being suspended on facebook or twitter.
Big deal, double standards happen all the time, get used to it. Just because double standards happen doesnt validify you ignoring the issue, thats just 1 wrong for another and in the end it doesnt help anyone.

So now you're discrediting the victim of a murder to what, try and justify Zimmerman killing an UNARMED teenager??? Nobody ever claimed he was a saint or whatever, just an unarmed teenager walking home from the store. I really dont get your point with discrediting him, its not like he had a gun and pointed it at Zimmerman

Im becoming less and less of a fan of yours by the second man

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 11:45 AM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 11:47 AM
I get the issue. Its a double standard. Its staring you straight in the face. Fact is more African Americans are killed by black on black violence over white on black violence. And theres more black on white crime that always goes un reported.
The media just wants to get viewers and sell their papers.

And now its coming out this kid wasnt the angel everyone was making him out to be. He was suspended over 3 times for having a burglery tool and womens jewlery, graff, and pot. He even bragged about being suspended on facebook or twitter.


It doesn't matter that he wasn't a angel, we've all made our mistakes as kids and none of us deserved to be shot for it, but your first point stands.

the ONLY reason this is in the news is to create ratings and viewers, and the only reason most people are in an uproar about this is because the news told them to be....that much is certain, and it's almost a shame because there are many much more important issues to be discussed and reported on right now....this is sad, but it's not unusual and it's not a pressing issue, like what is everyone protesting? is it racism? we don't even know if this crime was racially motivated more over we don't even know if was a crime! people are in an uproar but they don't even know why.
You REALLY dont have any idea why people are upset??

People are in an uproar because an unarmed teenager was shot by a neighborhood watch member after being told that 'the police will take care of it', the only 'weapon' he had was a hoodie, a bag of skittles, and an iced tea, and from what has been shown so far, Zimmerman went outside to confront the kid and then shot him

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 11:48 AM
i say kill, rape, and pillage everybody equally

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 11:48 AM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 11:50 AM
Anyone been watching this seasons's Showtime shows?

Such awesome seasons of Californication, Shamless, and the new show House of Lies (starring Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell).

And with Game of Thrones starting back up?? Good times!

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Don't watch Shameless but I do love Cali and House of Lies.* That friggin chick (I think her name is Dawn Olivieri) is unbelievably hot.</P>


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Ohhh the one who plays Monica? Dude....she's an 11 out of 10. easily. rrrrawwwwrrrrr</P>I have to start catching up on Cali. I like that show. I don't remember this chick Monica?

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 11:50 AM
I just had my photo taken with a coworker for a sales award I won, and we did outside because it's pretty nice out today.
Problem was it's cold, and i was facing the sun, so im like standing out there, arms crossed, trying to warm up. And then I couldnt see, so im fairly sure that the picture probably looks like I'm straigh mean-muggin the camera lol

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 11:51 AM
The REAL story here Kase, in my opinion, is not Trayvon Martins death, because we don't know the circumstances there, so to get all outraged over something no one knows anything about is just stupid, no the REAL story is about how the Media uses people like you Kase and the others, your friends that you think are "actually" angry about this issue....they USE you to drive their own agendas...to me THAT's the real story...not the situation you keep calling a crime/tragedy/murder because the news told you to call it that.

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 11:51 AM
Anyone been watching this seasons's Showtime shows?

Such awesome seasons of Californication, Shamless, and the new show House of Lies (starring Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell).

And with Game of Thrones starting back up?? Good times!

</P>


Don't watch Shameless but I do love Cali and House of Lies. That friggin chick (I think her name is Dawn Olivieri) is unbelievably hot.</P>


</P>


Ohhh the one who plays Monica? Dude....she's an 11 out of 10. easily. rrrrawwwwrrrrr</P>


I have to start catching up on Cali. I like that show. I don't remember this chick Monica?</P>


she's in House of Lies, not Californication.</P>

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 11:55 AM
You REALLY dont have any idea why people are upset??

No the problem here Kase, is that I DO know why people upset, I know better then they do themselves, most people are upset because the Media has told them to be, and for no other reason....they don't know that themselves but that is the case.


People are in an uproar because an unarmed teenager was shot by a neighborhood watch member after being told that 'the police will take care of it', the only 'weapon' he had was a hoodie, a bag of skittles, and an iced tea, and from what has been shown so far, Zimmerman went outside to confront the kid and then shot him

Yes that's what the news told you, but we don't know if that's true or not....why don't you wait for the actual facts before getting angry about something you know nothing about, also like others have said, even if all that IS true, it's not as though this is something that's uncommon, it's not as though this is something that never happens, so ask yourself why is everyone angry "this" time...what happened to all the other times it's happened...what happened to the kids this has happened to AFTER Trayvon Martin....why is it only this case people are angry about?

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 11:55 AM
The REAL story here Kase, in my opinion, is not Trayvon Martins death, because we don't know the circumstances there, so to get all outraged over something no one knows anything about is just stupid, no the REAL story is about how the Media uses people like you Kase and the others, your friends that you think are "actually" angry about this issue....they USE you to drive their own agendas...to me THAT's the real story...not the situation you keep calling a crime/tragedy/murder because the news told you to call it that.


i see davens slow at work today

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 11:55 AM
Anyone been watching this seasons's Showtime shows?

Such awesome seasons of Californication, Shamless, and the new show House of Lies (starring Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell).

And with Game of Thrones starting back up?? Good times!

</P>


Don't watch Shameless but I do love Cali and House of Lies. That friggin chick (I think her name is Dawn Olivieri) is unbelievably hot.</P>


</P>


Ohhh the one who plays Monica? Dude....she's an 11 out of 10. easily. rrrrawwwwrrrrr</P>


I have to start catching up on Cali. I like that show. I don't remember this chick Monica?</P>


http://www.celebsee.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Dawn-Olivieri-@-SAG-Indie-Party-during-Tribeca-Film-Festival-APR-26-2011-1.jpg</P>

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 11:56 AM
You REALLY dont have any idea why people are upset??

No the problem here Kase, is that I DO know why people upset, I know better then they do themselves, most people are upset because the Media has told them to be, and for no other reason....they don't know that themselves but that is the case.


People are in an uproar because an unarmed teenager was shot by a neighborhood watch member after being told that 'the police will take care of it', the only 'weapon' he had was a hoodie, a bag of skittles, and an iced tea, and from what has been shown so far, Zimmerman went outside to confront the kid and then shot him

Yes that's what the news told you, but we don't know if that's true or not....why don't you wait for the actual facts before getting angry about something you know nothing about.


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I think its time to drop this.</P>


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<FONT size=4>How about them Celts!!!!!!</FONT></P>

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 11:57 AM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012.

Graph is for:
As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 11:59 AM
The REAL story here Kase, in my opinion, is not Trayvon Martins death, because we don't know the circumstances there, so to get all outraged over something no one knows anything about is just stupid, no the REAL story is about how the Media uses people like you Kase and the others, your friends that you think are "actually" angry about this issue....they USE you to drive their own agendas...to me THAT's the real story...not the situation you keep calling a crime/tragedy/murder because the news told you to call it that.
Dont kid yourself, there are PLENTY circumstances that are known at this point in time

So im not allowed to be angry about what happened, Im only doing this because the media tells me to be angry about it?? Thats insane!!!!

The media puts the story in the light, you take your own opinions and views away from it. If the media didnt show the story how would I have known about a murder in Orlando?? How would you and Morehead know about the healthcare battle?? Because the media tells you about the issues

Are you really that biased you cant see the truth??

In that case the media is brainwashing you and Morehead for the conservative agenda, you arent a free thinker with your own views you are just a sheep who follows the medias agenda, and all of your friends who share the same views are just doing it to be 'cool' and 'different', you dont care about issues you just care about what the media tells you.... See how ridiculously stupid that sounds???

Give it up man

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:00 PM
The REAL story here Kase, in my opinion, is not Trayvon Martins death, because we don't know the circumstances there, so to get all outraged over something no one knows anything about is just stupid, no the REAL story is about how the Media uses people like you Kase and the others, your friends that you think are "actually" angry about this issue....they USE you to drive their own agendas...to me THAT's the real story...not the situation you keep calling a crime/tragedy/murder because the news told you to call it that.


i see davens slow at work today
Daven hasnt done work since Trayvon Martin's name was brought up

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 12:00 PM
Anyone been watching this seasons's Showtime shows?

Such awesome seasons of Californication, Shamless, and the new show House of Lies (starring Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell).

And with Game of Thrones starting back up?? Good times!

</P>


Don't watch Shameless but I do love Cali and House of Lies. That friggin chick (I think her name is Dawn Olivieri) is unbelievably hot.</P>


</P>


Ohhh the one who plays Monica? Dude....she's an 11 out of 10. easily. rrrrawwwwrrrrr</P>


I have to start catching up on Cali. I like that show. I don't remember this chick Monica?</P>


http://www.celebsee.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Dawn-Olivieri-@-SAG-Indie-Party-during-Tribeca-Film-Festival-APR-26-2011-1.jpg</P>


</P>


that picture doesnt even do her justice to how absolutely slammin' she looks in the show. lol</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:00 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:00 PM
I just had my photo taken with a coworker for a sales award I won, and we did outside because it's pretty nice out today.
Problem was it's cold, and i was facing the sun, so im like standing out there, arms crossed, trying to warm up. And then I couldnt see, so im fairly sure that the picture probably looks like I'm straigh mean-muggin the camera lolHaha, after reading that it was cold outside, I automatically thought you would next say that the co-workers headlights were on high beam! lol

Congrats on the award.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:01 PM
Say it with me Daven AND DEZZ.....

http://melgibstein.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/jerry-maguire.jpg?w=640

<font size="5">I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!</font>

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 12:02 PM
<FONT size=4>How about them Celts!!!!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


basketball?? with Baseball about to start, and the draft happening this upcoming month?? pssssh</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:02 PM
<font size="4">How about them Celts!!!!!!</font></p>


</p>


basketball?? with Baseball about to start, and the draft happening this upcoming month?? pssssh</p>And hockey playoffs around the corner!!!!

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:03 PM
i see davens slow at work today

Actually I'm not, This is in my wheelhouse, it's something that REALLY bothers me about today, the news has turned into a propaganda machine and no one seems to recognize that....the news (and I mean pretty much every media outlet yes including fox) is in the business of shaping societies opinions...but they aren't supposed to be in the business, they are supposed to report facts and let people decide for themselves....but people don't want that anymore people want to be told what to think...and thus the news has obliged them....but it's dangerous, like I said people tweeting Zimmerman's location? honestly? you have people showing up at random peoples houses that have nothing to do with Zimmerman threatening to break the doors down....you got people stealing "in support? in support of WHAT? no one knows whats going on people just want to act immediately.

the Media is inadvertently putting innocent peoples lives at risk by dramatizing issues they don't even know anything about....it's dangerous.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:04 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:04 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:04 PM
Say it with me Daven AND DEZZ.....

http://melgibstein.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/jerry-maguire.jpg?w=640

<font size="5">I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!</font>


I love and hate all people equally....I actually don't see any racial issue here at all.

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 12:04 PM
<FONT size=4>How about them Celts!!!!!!</FONT></P>


</P>


basketball?? with Baseball about to start, and the draft happening this upcoming month?? pssssh</P>


And hockey playoffs around the corner!!!!
</P>


....</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:06 PM
i see davens slow at work today

Actually I'm not, This is in my wheelhouse, it's something that REALLY bothers me about today, the news has turned into a propaganda machine and no one seems to recognize that....the news (and I mean pretty much every media outlet yes including fox) is in the business of shaping societies opinions...but they aren't supposed to be in the business, they are supposed to report facts and let people decide for themselves....but people don't want that anymore people want to be told what to think...and thus the news has obliged them....but it's dangerous, like I said people tweeting Zimmerman's location? honestly? you have people showing up at random peoples houses that have nothing to do with Zimmerman threatening to break the doors down....you got people stealing "in support? in support of WHAT? no one knows whats going on people just want to act immediately.

the Media is inadvertently putting innocent peoples lives at risk by dramatizing issues they don't even know anything about....it's dangerous.


i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:07 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?</P>


I'm sorry I was just thinking about Jamie Lee's breasts.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:07 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?

absolutely...

u know how many coke dealers i've had that we're little rich white boys that live in a nice house with both parents and good life?

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:08 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?</p>


I'm sorry I was just thinking about Jamie Lee's breasts.</p>

amen

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:08 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes.* Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing.* The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>Funny, as I was writing my next post which cited the socio economic side of things, you were on the same page.

Now I want to play devils advocate, since an indiv. will tend to be a product of their environment, why are their more African Americans in poverty situations than caucassions? That's the part I don't agree with. I see it every day, we work hard to have what we have. Not all, but a large majority of AA-don't care one way or another and move very S L O W L Y. The level of ambition is very disproportionate.

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:09 PM
Say it with me Daven AND DEZZ.....

http://melgibstein.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/jerry-maguire.jpg?w=640

<font size="5">I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!</font>


I love and hate all people equally....I actually don't see any racial issue here at all.


i see a slight issue...

i doubt as many popular black stars try to spread the knowledge of this incident if it was a white kid

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:09 PM
Say it with me Daven AND DEZZ.....

http://melgibstein.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/jerry-maguire.jpg?w=640

<font size="5">I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!</font>


I love and hate all people equally....I actually don't see any racial issue here at all.
Rod Tidwell Rules! and they love you as well because they don't have to work because you DO!

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:09 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?</P>


I'm sorry I was just thinking about Jamie Lee's breasts.</P>




amen
</P>


That was a legitimately great movie. Akroid is one of the best comedic actors I've ever seen.</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:09 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:10 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</P>


Isn't that racist?</P>

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:11 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?

absolutely...

u know how many coke dealers i've had that we're little rich white boys that live in a nice house with both parents and good life?


Agreed...

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:12 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that


plus keep in mind that there are more cops in that area who actively look for crime

If you had that in even rich kid towns with mansions the numbers would dramatically go up.

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:13 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes.* Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing.* The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes.* If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
Yes--and drug dependence is connected to not having a job or money...it's a viscious cycle.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:13 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?I LOOOOOVE that movie

When Winthorp had no other options he turned to a life of crime just like Eddie Murphy before he got bailed out of jail in the beginning of the movie

'Pork Bellies, which are used to make bacon, which you may find in a BACON, Lettuce, and Tomato sandwich'

LMAO

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:14 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes.* Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing.* The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes.* If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</P>


Isn't that racist?</P>I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:16 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</p>


Isn't that racist?</p>Which part??

I dont agree with people judging others by skin and having pre-disposed notions about people different than them, but in certain areas of the country there are still backwards people that do base things on race. Personally I base people on character, everyone starts out with a clean slate when I 1st meet you

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:17 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?I LOOOOOVE that movie

When Winthorp had no other options he turned to a life of crime just like Eddie Murphy before he got bailed out of jail in the beginning of the movie

'Pork Bellies, which are used to make bacon, which you may find in a BACON, Lettuce, and Tomato sandwich'

LMAO
I just watched it this past weekend...awesome.

You know what was hilarious--a recent Southpark episode spoofing the Apple Ipad and the terms and conditions screen that comes up when you download stuff. They were saying that small print stated that you agreed to have your mouth sewn to the anus of another person and they were going to enforce their terms and conditions lmao

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:17 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</P>


Isn't that racist?</P>


I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.</P>


Let me ask you a question. If you had a choice to be born black or white in this country, which would you choose?</P>


</P>

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:17 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:18 PM
I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.Now these 'others' are they all one color, or are they just free loaders of all kinds???

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:18 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</P>


Isn't that racist?</P>


Which part??

I dont agree with people judging others by skin and having pre-disposed notions about people different than them, but in certain areas of the country there are still backwards people that do base things on race. Personally I base people on character, everyone starts out with a clean slate when I 1st meet you
</P>


I basemy opinion of peopleon shoe size.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:19 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</p>


Isn't that racist?</p>I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.

well thats kinda racist in itself that you seem to think its only black people doing it.

MAybe around here, but there are plenty of white people like that too.

And while there are bottom feeders (always will and always have) most are people that actually aren't doing it to just abuse the system and get a free ride. Thats another political agenda of news reporting

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 12:19 PM
This thread sucks.</P>


bah!</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:20 PM
Let me ask you a question. If you had a choice to be born black or white in this country, which would you choose?</p>


</p>Im a PROUD Irish-American

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:21 PM
I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.Now these 'others' are they all one color, or are they just free loaders of all kinds???
lol--All colors.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:21 PM
Let me ask you a question. If you had a choice to be born black or white in this country, which would you choose?</P>


</P>


Im a PROUD Irish-American


</P>


I'm just Caz.</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:22 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</p>


Isn't that racist?</p>


Which part??

I dont agree with people judging others by skin and having pre-disposed notions about people different than them, but in certain areas of the country there are still backwards people that do base things on race. Personally I base people on character, everyone starts out with a clean slate when I 1st meet you
</p>


I basemy opinion of peopleon shoe size.</p>So you love me because of my size 13s!?!?!? I KNEW there was some underlying conservative agenda!!!!

LMAO

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:22 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:23 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</p>


Isn't that racist?</p>I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.

well thats kinda racist in itself that you seem to think its only black people doing it.

MAybe around here, but there are plenty of white people like that too.

And while there are bottom feeders (always will and always have) most are people that actually aren't doing it to just abuse the system and get a free ride. Thats another political agenda of news reporting
Depends which side of the bi-partisanship you're getting your news from and how many people you personally know that have/or are currently receiving Govt assistance

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:24 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</p>


Isn't that racist?</p>


I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.</p>


Let me ask you a question. If you had a choice to be born black or white in this country, which would you choose?</p>


</p>

if I could be born tom as black or white and live the same type of life i have?

I think that balances out for the newer generations there pappy - not as one sided as you think it is

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:25 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:25 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</P>


Isn't that racist?</P>


Which part??

I dont agree with people judging others by skin and having pre-disposed notions about people different than them, but in certain areas of the country there are still backwards people that do base things on race. Personally I base people on character, everyone starts out with a clean slate when I 1st meet you
</P>


I basemy opinion of peopleon shoe size.</P>


So you love me because of my size 13s!?!?!? I KNEW there was some underlying conservative agenda!!!!

LMAO
</P>


I see you in some anti-government militia by the time you turn 40. I can see you turning hard right.</P>

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:26 PM
And while there are bottom feeders (always will and always have) most are people that actually aren't doing it to just abuse the system and get a free ride. Thats another political agenda of news reporting


"Give a man a fish and he won't starve for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he won't starve for his entire life."

the problem with our current social welfare systems is they force the poor to become dependent on them, the government gives them fish everyday for dinner....

If the government instead concentrated on teaching them how to fish (aka become productive members of society) it would in the end be more cost effective, it would work better for all involved, the reason they don't do it? the poor vote goes to democrats, it ALWAYS does, because they have convinced the poor that the republicans don't care about them and will take away their fish......but if the democrates really cared, they would be teaching the poor how to fish so that regardless of who was in power....they wouldn't have to worry about where the food was coming from...

(do you get me?)

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:28 PM
And while there are bottom feeders (always will and always have) most are people that actually aren't doing it to just abuse the system and get a free ride. Thats another political agenda of news reporting


"Give a man a fish and he won't starve for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he won't starve for his entire life."

the problem with our current social welfare systems is they force the poor to become dependent on them, the government gives them fish everyday for dinner....

If the government instead concentrated on teaching them how to fish (aka become productive members of society) it would in the end be more cost effective, it would work better for all involved, the reason they don't do it? the poor vote goes to democrats, it ALWAYS does, because they have convinced the poor that the republicans don't care about them and will take away their fish......but if the democrates really cared, they would be teaching the poor how to fish so that regardless of who was in power....they wouldn't have to worry about where the food was coming from...

(do you get me?)
</P>


My official prediction is 97 wins for the Sox.</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:29 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</p>


Isn't that racist?</p>


I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.</p>


Let me ask you a question. If you had a choice to be born black or white in this country, which would you choose?</p>


</p>

if I could be born tom as black or white and live the same type of life i have?

I think that balances out for the newer generations there pappy - not as one sided as you think it is
Given the same socio-economic class and living in the same neighborhood, I think that people of color still face more obstacles and entrenched biases than people of lighter pigmentation

But you are right, today its MUCH more balanced than at any point in history.... At least in the Tri-State Area

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:30 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</p>


Isn't that racist?</p>


Which part??

I dont agree with people judging others by skin and having pre-disposed notions about people different than them, but in certain areas of the country there are still backwards people that do base things on race. Personally I base people on character, everyone starts out with a clean slate when I 1st meet you
</p>


I basemy opinion of peopleon shoe size.</p>


So you love me because of my size 13s!?!?!? I KNEW there was some underlying conservative agenda!!!!

LMAO
</p>


I see you in some anti-government militia by the time you turn 40. I can see you turning hard right.</p>DAMNIT Morehead give me my Kush back!!!!

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:30 PM
OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'


Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.


Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png/300px-Lifetime_prevalence_of_incarceration.png</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>


Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
</p>


Isn't that racist?</p>I really don't consider myself racist. I do have a problem with working my *** off...when other's get a free ride.

well thats kinda racist in itself that you seem to think its only black people doing it.

MAybe around here, but there are plenty of white people like that too.

And while there are bottom feeders (always will and always have) most are people that actually aren't doing it to just abuse the system and get a free ride. Thats another political agenda of news reporting
Depends which side of the bi-partisanship you're getting your news from and how many people you personally know that have/or are currently receiving Govt assistance


the point is that i know PLENTY of white americans from jersey that have had to rely on government assistance for a while. There are people that abuse the system, but it happens every where for all races.

Its just a ploy by republicans to suggest that all of this money is just goign to free loaders and thats not the case. Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:32 PM
I see you in some anti-government militia by the time you turn 40. I can see you turning hard right.</p>Sorry MH, I love equality, kush, hip hop music, and fighting for injustices too much, LOL

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:32 PM
did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

Yes and Yes, I actually DID with OJ, I mean I think I was naive at the time, but my Jr Highschool had a walk out during the OJ Trial and I was part of it, also don't forget the Casey Anthony case...I think I've been pretty consistent on wanting the courts to decide before jumping to conclusions based on media reports.



I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.

you don't know what happened matt..neither does the media...they are reporting on it in such a way that drives their ratings that's all it is and you know it....and it's dangerous.

right now I'm thinking Kase is the least balanced....but this is the problem

(----------------------------Me------(balance)------------------------Society----You------)

that's the way I see it matt...I think I am pretty neutral...i just think our whole society is ****ed up at the moment, you guys are slightly worse then the average but are closer to societies norms....so of course "you" think you are closer to normal....but that's because normal is ****ed up right now.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:33 PM
I see you in some anti-government militia by the time you turn 40. I can see you turning hard right.</P>


Sorry MH, I love equality, kush, hip hop music, and fighting for injustices too much, LOL
</P>


You'd fit right in at your neighborhood militia.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:36 PM
And while there are bottom feeders (always will and always have) most are people that actually aren't doing it to just abuse the system and get a free ride. Thats another political agenda of news reporting


"Give a man a fish and he won't starve for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he won't starve for his entire life."

the problem with our current social welfare systems is they force the poor to become dependent on them, the government gives them fish everyday for dinner....

If the government instead concentrated on teaching them how to fish (aka become productive members of society) it would in the end be more cost effective, it would work better for all involved, the reason they don't do it? the poor vote goes to democrats, it ALWAYS does, because they have convinced the poor that the republicans don't care about them and will take away their fish......but if the democrates really cared, they would be teaching the poor how to fish so that regardless of who was in power....they wouldn't have to worry about where the food was coming from...

(do you get me?)


I get you, but its the typical talk out of both sides of your mouth. The jobs aren't here. Like i've said a million times i know plenty of good people with college educations that can't get a ****in job and need assistance. You kill obama for unemployment but then come back with this response about government assistance.


Theres not enough room on the fishing boats right now for everybody to go fish.

There is a MAJOR issue with education, but it starts at the very top. **** man college is a business nowadays, not a learning institute. Its one of the biggets scams in our nation at the moment imo. Bottom line is there aren't enough jobs for everybody today out here. And the percentage of those "stealing" from the government is HIGHLY over hyped by the Left.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:37 PM
BTW...I have no idea what "kush" is.</P>


Isn't it a healthy cereal?</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:37 PM
the point is that i know PLENTY of white americans from jersey that have had to rely on government assistance for a while. There are people that abuse the system, but it happens every where for all races.

Its just a ploy by republicans to suggest that all of this money is just goign to free loaders and thats not the case. Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy


Dont have to convince me homey, if you havnet realized Im THEE resident Liberal for the THEE Thread, LOL

I know the truth...

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:37 PM
did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

Yes and Yes, I actually DID with OJ, I mean I think I was naive at the time, but my Jr Highschool had a walk out during the OJ Trial and I was part of it, also don't forget the Casey Anthony case...I think I've been pretty consistent on wanting the courts to decide before jumping to conclusions based on media reports.



I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.

you don't know what happened matt..neither does the media...they are reporting on it in such a way that drives their ratings that's all it is and you know it....and it's dangerous.

right now I'm thinking Kase is the least balanced....but this is the problem

(----------------------------Me------(balance)------------------------Society----You------)

that's the way I see it matt...I think I am pretty neutral...i just think our whole society is ****ed up at the moment, you guys are slightly worse then the average but are closer to societies norms....so of course "you" think you are closer to normal....but that's because normal is ****ed up right now.



like i said, your consistancy is in taking the opposite extreme, making u equally as ridiculous

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:38 PM
BTW...I have no idea what "kush" is.</p>


Isn't it a healthy cereal?</p> Panama Red, Acupolco Gold, Maui Wowie

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:39 PM
the point is that i know PLENTY of white americans from jersey that have had to rely on government assistance for a while. There are people that abuse the system, but it happens every where for all races.

Its just a ploy by republicans to suggest that all of this money is just goign to free loaders and thats not the case. Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy


Dont have to convince me homey, if you havnet realized Im THEE resident Liberal for the THEE Thread, LOL

I know the truth...
</P>


Define "liberal".</P>

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:40 PM
Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy

The way I see it Republicans actually want to HELP the unemployed get jobs, where as the Democrat actually want the unemployment high, because as long as it's high and they are championing the social welfare programs the unemployed will always vote for democrats, it's almost functionally like slavery, the Dem's want to keep the poor, poor so they continue scarring them by saying "you don't want those nasty republicans in office they want to take away your benefits!" but in reality all the republicans want to do is make it so you can get a job, so that you won't need the benefits.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:40 PM
that's the way I see it matt...I think I am pretty neutral
LMAO, im sorry did you just say you were neutral?!?!?!

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:40 PM
the point is that i know PLENTY of white americans from jersey that have had to rely on government assistance for a while. There are people that abuse the system, but it happens every where for all races.

Its just a ploy by republicans to suggest that all of this money is just goign to free loaders and thats not the case. Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy


Dont have to convince me homey, if you havnet realized Im THEE resident Liberal for the THEE Thread, LOL

I know the truth...
</p>


Define "liberal".</p>According to you and Scrappy or according to me??

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:40 PM
BTW...I have no idea what "kush" is.</P>


Isn't it a healthy cereal?</P>


Panama Red, Acupolco Gold, Maui Wowie
</P>


I've never been to Panama or Alcupulco, but I enjoyed Maui very much.</P>


So its a vacation package?</P>


I like them too.</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:41 PM
Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy

The way I see it Republicans actually want to HELP the unemployed get jobs, where as the Democrat actually want the unemployment high, because as long as it's high and they are championing the social welfare programs the unemployed will always vote for democrats, it's almost functionally like slavery, the Dem's want to keep the poor, poor so they continue scarring them by saying "you don't want those nasty republicans in office they want to take away your benefits!" but in reality all the republicans want to do is make it so you can get a job, so that you won't need the benefits.
WOW, I see Fox News has a blogger on the GMBs, LOL

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:41 PM
the point is that i know PLENTY of white americans from jersey that have had to rely on government assistance for a while. There are people that abuse the system, but it happens every where for all races.

Its just a ploy by republicans to suggest that all of this money is just goign to free loaders and thats not the case. Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy


Dont have to convince me homey, if you havnet realized Im THEE resident Liberal for the THEE Thread, LOL

I know the truth...
</P>


Define "liberal".</P>


According to you and Scrappy or according to me??
</P>


I think I know how Scrappy would define it. I'd like to know how you do.</P>

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:41 PM
did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

Yes and Yes, I actually DID with OJ, I mean I think I was naive at the time, but my Jr Highschool had a walk out during the OJ Trial and I was part of it, also don't forget the Casey Anthony case...I think I've been pretty consistent on wanting the courts to decide before jumping to conclusions based on media reports.



I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.

you don't know what happened matt..neither does the media...they are reporting on it in such a way that drives their ratings that's all it is and you know it....and it's dangerous.

right now I'm thinking Kase is the least balanced....but this is the problem

(----------------------------Me------(balance)------------------------Society----You------)

that's the way I see it matt...I think I am pretty neutral...i just think our whole society is ****ed up at the moment, you guys are slightly worse then the average but are closer to societies norms....so of course "you" think you are closer to normal....but that's because normal is ****ed up right now.



like i said, your consistancy is in taking the opposite extreme, making u equally as ridiculous


Did you look at the chart I made at all? what I'm saying is I'm closer to "balanced" then you think, the problem is societies normal is already really far away from balanced...so when someone is balanced they look crazy to normal people because normal is actually crazy.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:42 PM
BTW...I have no idea what "kush" is.</p>


Isn't it a healthy cereal?</p>


Panama Red, Acupolco Gold, Maui Wowie
</p>


I've never been to Panama or Alcupulco, but I enjoyed Maui very much.</p>


So its a vacation package?</p>


I like them too.</p>You could call it an 'herbal vacation'

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:43 PM
BTW...I have no idea what "kush" is.</P>


Isn't it a healthy cereal?</P>


Panama Red, Acupolco Gold, Maui Wowie
</P>


I've never been to Panama or Alcupulco, but I enjoyed Maui very much.</P>


So its a vacation package?</P>


I like them too.</P>


You could call it an 'herbal vacation'
</P>


So it <U>IS</U> health food.</P>

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:44 PM
WOW, I see Fox News has a blogger on the GMBs, LOL

sigh, have you ever listened to CSPAN Kase? my opinions are formed mostly from listening to actual sessions in congress..I listen to the actual representatives from both sides as they make their case, if you want to disagree fine....but my largest news source....what I base my opinions off of, that is something you can't say is bias...it's the actual discussion it's not news it's simply listening to the discussion IN congress on the floor.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:45 PM
so when someone is balanced they look crazy to normal people because normal is actually crazy.
...You feel that way about me and I feel that way about you, point being......

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:46 PM
BTW...I have no idea what "kush" is.</p>


Isn't it a healthy cereal?</p>


Panama Red, Acupolco Gold, Maui Wowie
</p>


I've never been to Panama or Alcupulco, but I enjoyed Maui very much.</p>


So its a vacation package?</p>


I like them too.</p>


You could call it an 'herbal vacation'
</p>


So it <u>IS</u> health food.</p>Yup 100% vegan friendly, LOL

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:46 PM
sorry--I had to take a difficult call.

If I had my choice I would be re-born- Black & Gay . Then I could have a host of cards up my sleeve to play from whenever I needed to cry discrimination to help get what I want. I would still work as hard and I do now, but I would be a little extra special.

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:48 PM
Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy

The way I see it Republicans actually want to HELP the unemployed get jobs, where as the Democrat actually want the unemployment high, because as long as it's high and they are championing the social welfare programs the unemployed will always vote for democrats, it's almost functionally like slavery, the Dem's want to keep the poor, poor so they continue scarring them by saying "you don't want those nasty republicans in office they want to take away your benefits!" but in reality all the republicans want to do is make it so you can get a job, so that you won't need the benefits.



lol thats so jaded its funny that you actually believe that.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:49 PM
BTW...I have no idea what "kush" is.</P>


Isn't it a healthy cereal?</P>


Panama Red, Acupolco Gold, Maui Wowie
</P>


I've never been to Panama or Alcupulco, but I enjoyed Maui very much.</P>


So its a vacation package?</P>


I like them too.</P>


You could call it an 'herbal vacation'
</P>


So it <U>IS</U> health food.</P>


Yup 100% vegan friendly, LOL
</P>


Thats so nice.........and so principled as well. Good for you Kase.</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:49 PM
WOW, I see Fox News has a blogger on the GMBs, LOL

sigh, have you ever listened to CSPAN Kase? my opinions are formed mostly from listening to actual sessions in congress..I listen to the actual representatives from both sides as they make their case, if you want to disagree fine....but my largest news source....what I base my opinions off of, that is something you can't say is bias...it's the actual discussion it's not news it's simply listening to the discussion IN congress on the floor.
Thats fine with me, im not trying to convert you or anything like that. Big deal there are conservatives and liberals

Obviously the Fox News thing is a joke that I always use with our resident conservatives (you and MH)

We're on different sides of the spectrum, its no big deal

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:49 PM
BTW how come there's been almost no coverage of obama's open mic slip up....where he ctalked about how he couldn't broker security agreements with Russia during an Election Year....

like literally he's putting national security on hold because he wants to win an election....and no one talks about it...it's crazy how one sided the media's agenda is.

http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Open-mic-slip-up-reverberates-3439505.php

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:49 PM
WOW, I see Fox News has a blogger on the GMBs, LOL

sigh, have you ever listened to CSPAN Kase? my opinions are formed mostly from listening to actual sessions in congress..I listen to the actual representatives from both sides as they make their case, if you want to disagree fine....but my largest news source....what I base my opinions off of, that is something you can't say is bias...it's the actual discussion it's not news it's simply listening to the discussion IN congress on the floor.


shut up

no they are not lol

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:50 PM
sorry--I had to take a difficult call.

If I had my choice I would be re-born- Black &amp; Gay... Wait, you're not already!?!??!!?

LOL, jk

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:51 PM
did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

Yes and Yes, I actually DID with OJ, I mean I think I was naive at the time, but my Jr Highschool had a walk out during the OJ Trial and I was part of it, also don't forget the Casey Anthony case...I think I've been pretty consistent on wanting the courts to decide before jumping to conclusions based on media reports.



I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.

you don't know what happened matt..neither does the media...they are reporting on it in such a way that drives their ratings that's all it is and you know it....and it's dangerous.

right now I'm thinking Kase is the least balanced....but this is the problem

(----------------------------Me------(balance)------------------------Society----You------)

that's the way I see it matt...I think I am pretty neutral...i just think our whole society is ****ed up at the moment, you guys are slightly worse then the average but are closer to societies norms....so of course "you" think you are closer to normal....but that's because normal is ****ed up right now.



like i said, your consistancy is in taking the opposite extreme, making u equally as ridiculous


Did you look at the chart I made at all? what I'm saying is I'm closer to "balanced" then you think, the problem is societies normal is already really far away from balanced...so when someone is balanced they look crazy to normal people because normal is actually crazy.


lol by ur own chart i can read that it makes u balanced

ur chart just means nothing though lol

heres my chart of sexiness:

( Me --------- Brad Pitt ----------------------------------------George Lopez ------------- Daven)

didn't u see my chart?

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:51 PM
BTW how come there's been almost no coverage of obama's open mic slip up....where he ctalked about how he couldn't broker security agreements with Russia during an Election Year....

like literally he's putting national security on hold because he wants to win an election....and no one talks about it...it's crazy how one sided the media's agenda is.

http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Open-mic-slip-up-reverberates-3439505.php
Actually they even mentioned that on the most liberal show ever, 'The Daily Show'

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:52 PM
WOW, I see Fox News has a blogger on the GMBs, LOL

sigh, have you ever listened to CSPAN Kase? my opinions are formed mostly from listening to actual sessions in congress..I listen to the actual representatives from both sides as they make their case, if you want to disagree fine....but my largest news source....what I base my opinions off of, that is something you can't say is bias...it's the actual discussion it's not news it's simply listening to the discussion IN congress on the floor.
Thats fine with me, im not trying to convert you or anything like that. Big deal there are conservatives and liberals

Obviously the Fox News thing is a joke that I always use with our resident conservatives (you and MH)

We're on different sides of the spectrum, its no big deal


Understood, but I feel like you think I think the way I do because of my information source...which simply isn't the case.....but maybe I think that because it's what I think about you and Matt...I do think you guys think the way you do because you are being "tricked" by wherever you are getting your information from....

CSPAN is incorruptible...both the dem's and the republican representatives get equal time to make their point....that's what I'm listening to...

MSNBC/ABC/FOX/CNN ALL of those are biased one way or another.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:53 PM
WOW, I see Fox News has a blogger on the GMBs, LOL

sigh, have you ever listened to CSPAN Kase? my opinions are formed mostly from listening to actual sessions in congress..I listen to the actual representatives from both sides as they make their case, if you want to disagree fine....but my largest news source....what I base my opinions off of, that is something you can't say is bias...it's the actual discussion it's not news it's simply listening to the discussion IN congress on the floor.
Thats fine with me, im not trying to convert you or anything like that. Big deal there are conservatives and liberals

Obviously the Fox News thing is a joke that I always use with our resident conservatives (you and MH)

We're on different sides of the spectrum, its no big deal


Understood, but I feel like you think I think the way I do because of my information source...which simply isn't the case.....but maybe I think that because it's what I think about you and Matt...I do think you guys think the way you do because you are being "tricked" by wherever you are getting your information from....

CSPAN is incorruptible...both the dem's and the republican representatives get equal time to make their point....that's what I'm listening to...

MSNBC/ABC/FOX/CNN ALL of those are biased one way or another.
</P>


Am I really conservative?</P>


Do you even know what a conservative really is?</P>

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 12:53 PM
Its funny because they speak out of both sides of their mouths - the complain about unemployment and how people can't get jobs but then turn around and blast for government assistance and say people are just lazy

The way I see it Republicans actually want to HELP the unemployed get jobs, where as the Democrat actually want the unemployment high, because as long as it's high and they are championing the social welfare programs the unemployed will always vote for democrats, it's almost functionally like slavery, the Dem's want to keep the poor, poor so they continue scarring them by saying "you don't want those nasty republicans in office they want to take away your benefits!" but in reality all the republicans want to do is make it so you can get a job, so that you won't need the benefits.



lol thats so jaded its funny that you actually believe that.


Reps have put up over 30 job bills. None have reached obamas desk. Thats pretty pathetic

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:53 PM
did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

Yes and Yes, I actually DID with OJ, I mean I think I was naive at the time, but my Jr Highschool had a walk out during the OJ Trial and I was part of it, also don't forget the Casey Anthony case...I think I've been pretty consistent on wanting the courts to decide before jumping to conclusions based on media reports.



I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.*

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.

you don't know what happened matt..neither does the media...they are reporting on it in such a way that drives their ratings that's all it is and you know it....and it's dangerous.

right now I'm thinking Kase is the least balanced....but this is the problem

(----------------------------Me------(balance)------------------------Society----You------)

that's the way I see it matt...I think I am pretty neutral...i just think our whole society is ****ed up at the moment, you guys are slightly worse then the average but are closer to societies norms....so of course "you" think you are closer to normal....but that's because normal is ****ed up right now.



like i said, your consistancy is in taking the opposite extreme, making u equally as ridiculous


Did you look at the chart I made at all? what I'm saying is I'm closer to "balanced" then you think, ***the problem is societies normal is already really far away from balanced...so when someone is balanced they look crazy to normal people because normal is actually crazy.****
Dav-I actually agree with that. It's difficult sometime's, because what I may think is logical (which actually is, btw) some other people do not agree with. I'm not talking about wives(they don't count)

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 12:53 PM
BTW how come there's been almost no coverage of obama's open mic slip up....where he ctalked about how he couldn't broker security agreements with Russia during an Election Year....

like literally he's putting national security on hold because he wants to win an election....and no one talks about it...it's crazy how one sided the media's agenda is.

http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Open-mic-slip-up-reverberates-3439505.php


No, its always two sided and its the same two sides that do the same thing as the other one does when the other side is in office

this is how i know you are one of the furthest people from being balanced. Denying this, pretty much confirms how jaded your opinions are

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 12:55 PM
Heres another one Kase.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1qRRjVkLo

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 12:55 PM
did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

Yes and Yes, I actually DID with OJ, I mean I think I was naive at the time, but my Jr Highschool had a walk out during the OJ Trial and I was part of it, also don't forget the Casey Anthony case...I think I've been pretty consistent on wanting the courts to decide before jumping to conclusions based on media reports.



I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.*

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.

you don't know what happened matt..neither does the media...they are reporting on it in such a way that drives their ratings that's all it is and you know it....and it's dangerous.

right now I'm thinking Kase is the least balanced....but this is the problem

(----------------------------Me------(balance)------------------------Society----You------)

that's the way I see it matt...I think I am pretty neutral...i just think our whole society is ****ed up at the moment, you guys are slightly worse then the average but are closer to societies norms....so of course "you" think you are closer to normal....but that's because normal is ****ed up right now.



like i said, your consistancy is in taking the opposite extreme, making u equally as ridiculous


Did you look at the chart I made at all? what I'm saying is I'm closer to "balanced" then you think, the problem is societies normal is already really far away from balanced...so when someone is balanced they look crazy to normal people because normal is actually crazy.


lol by ur own chart i can read that it makes u balanced

ur chart just means nothing though lol

heres my chart of sexiness:

( Me --------- Brad Pitt ----------------------------------------George Lopez ------------- Daven)

didn't u see my chart?
lol

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:55 PM
lol by ur own chart i can read that it makes u balanced

ur chart just means nothing though lol

heres my chart of sexiness:

( Me --------- Brad Pitt ----------------------------------------George Lopez ------------- Daven)

didn't u see my chart?


I'm not saying you should agree with it, I made the chart to illustrate my own viewpoint on the subject...you don't seem to understand that, you keep saying (as though it where a fact) that I'm on some opposite extreme...I understand that's what you "think" but I'm trying to let you in on what I think, and that's that society itself is on an extreme...so of course you think "IM" extreme...because I'm pretty ****ing far away from society....but since it's actually society that's extreme (in my opinion) you telling me I'm extreme the other way actually means to me at least that you are saying I'm balanced....because your extreme is my normal.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 12:56 PM
BTW how come there's been almost no coverage of obama's open mic slip up....where he ctalked about how he couldn't broker security agreements with Russia during an Election Year....

like literally he's putting national security on hold because he wants to win an election....and no one talks about it...it's crazy how one sided the media's agenda is.

http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Open-mic-slip-up-reverberates-3439505.php
Actually they even mentioned that on the most liberal show ever, 'The Daily Show'
THAT NOT NEWS!!!lol

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:57 PM
WOW, I see Fox News has a blogger on the GMBs, LOL

sigh, have you ever listened to CSPAN Kase? my opinions are formed mostly from listening to actual sessions in congress..I listen to the actual representatives from both sides as they make their case, if you want to disagree fine....but my largest news source....what I base my opinions off of, that is something you can't say is bias...it's the actual discussion it's not news it's simply listening to the discussion IN congress on the floor.
Thats fine with me, im not trying to convert you or anything like that. Big deal there are conservatives and liberals

Obviously the Fox News thing is a joke that I always use with our resident conservatives (you and MH)

We're on different sides of the spectrum, its no big deal


Understood, but I feel like you think I think the way I do because of my information source...which simply isn't the case.....but maybe I think that because it's what I think about you and Matt...I do think you guys think the way you do because you are being "tricked" by wherever you are getting your information from....

CSPAN is incorruptible...both the dem's and the republican representatives get equal time to make their point....that's what I'm listening to...

MSNBC/ABC/FOX/CNN ALL of those are biased one way or another.
Nah man, that the glen beck and rush limbaugh comments, its like a running joke kind of like if you said I got all of my news from 'The Daily Show with Jon Stewart'

See by you saying that you think we're 'tricked' into thinking 1 way or another is a 2 way street, I think that way about you as well. Thats usually how it goes with people of opposing political views. I dont say you're 'tricked' cause I have more respect for you that I guess you do for me, its kind of a disrespectful thing to say, we have opposing views that doesnt make you less of a person you just feel differently, get over it

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 12:58 PM
BTW...I have no idea what "kush" is.</p>


Isn't it a healthy cereal?</p>


Panama Red, Acupolco Gold, Maui Wowie
</p>


I've never been to Panama or Alcupulco, but I enjoyed Maui very much.</p>


So its a vacation package?</p>


I like them too.</p>LMAO!!!! convo of the year.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 12:58 PM
BTW how come there's been almost no coverage of obama's open mic slip up....where he ctalked about how he couldn't broker security agreements with Russia during an Election Year....

like literally he's putting national security on hold because he wants to win an election....and no one talks about it...it's crazy how one sided the media's agenda is.

http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Open-mic-slip-up-reverberates-3439505.php
Actually they even mentioned that on the most liberal show ever, 'The Daily Show'
THAT NOT NEWS!!!lol
Thats why I didnt call it a 'news' show..... LAWYERED!!!!

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/200/b/b/You__ve_been_Lawyered_by_DenaliWolf.jpg

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 12:59 PM
I don't know why I argue so hard when it comes to this topic, I generally agree with Morehead and LT on these issues....and since they are two of the wiser and more experienced members of this thread I should be happy with that....knowing that I have perhaps knowledge/wisdom beyond my years...

but it's never good enough, I want MMB and Kase to understand it too....I mean we all know they will eventually figure it out as they get older like everyone else does....but I want them to know it now.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 12:59 PM
The difference between "liberals" and "Conservatives" is much less then you think. I remember the Medicare debate in the mid 90's. Deocrats were accusing the GOP of wanting to put old people into the street and Repubs were accusing the Dems of wanting to tax and spend us into oblivion.</P>


The difference between the Dem Medicare proposal and the GOP proposal was <U>3%.</U></P>


The differences are ginned up by politicians and we follow like sheep. People are the same all over.</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 01:00 PM
Heres another one Kase.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1qRRjVkLo
Why are you complaining to me, you should be complaining to a news outlet

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 01:00 PM
Heres another one Kase.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1qRRjVkLo


this is the first post i've seen from you but i don't know the other article you posted

but u know as well as i do that taking a kids life typically hits harder than anything else

****, thats the scumbag of criminals. Go to jail being a child rapist or killer - see how that works out for you

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 01:02 PM
lol by ur own chart i can read that it makes u balanced

ur chart just means nothing though lol

heres my chart of sexiness:

( Me --------- Brad Pitt ----------------------------------------George Lopez ------------- Daven)

didn't u see my chart?


I'm not saying you should agree with it, I made the chart to illustrate my own viewpoint on the subject...you don't seem to understand that, you keep saying (as though it where a fact) that I'm on some opposite extreme...I understand that's what you "think" but I'm trying to let you in on what I think, and that's that society itself is on an extreme...so of course you think "IM" extreme...because I'm pretty ****ing far away from society....but since it's actually society that's extreme (in my opinion) you telling me I'm extreme the other way actually means to me at least that you are saying I'm balanced....because your extreme is my normal.
Your intellect is dizzying

http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/wp-content/uploads/princess-bride.jpg

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 01:03 PM
Heres another one Kase.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1qRRjVkLo


this is the first post i've seen from you but i don't know the other article you posted

but u know as well as i do that taking a kids life typically hits harder than anything else

****, thats the scumbag of criminals. Go to jail being a child rapist or killer - see how that works out for you
Dezz refuses to acknowledge the Trayvon Martin case because there are double standards that dont get the attention that this case gets

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 01:04 PM
See by you saying that you think we're 'tricked' into thinking 1 way or another is a 2 way street, I think that way about you as well.

This is why I went through the trouble to explain to you that I base my opinions off of CSPAN coverage....which is incorruptible because all CSPAN does is broadcast the actual congress sessions....so no in fact it's not a 2 way street....your news source is likely biased, (because almost all are) but CSPAN is actually incorruptible so no I can't be tricked into anything based upon my news source....

spend a day listening to CSPAN you'll see what I mean.

http://den-a.plr.liquidcompass.net/player/flash/audio_player.php?id=WCSPFM&amp;uid=346

byron
03-30-2012, 01:11 PM
i see davens slow at work today

Actually I'm not, This is in my wheelhouse, it's something that REALLY bothers me about today, the news has turned into a propaganda machine and no one seems to recognize that....the news (and I mean pretty much every media outlet yes including fox) is in the business of shaping societies opinions...but they aren't supposed to be in the business, they are supposed to report facts and let people decide for themselves....but people don't want that anymore people want to be told what to think...and thus the news has obliged them....but it's dangerous, like I said people tweeting Zimmerman's location? honestly? you have people showing up at random peoples houses that have nothing to do with Zimmerman threatening to break the doors down....you got people stealing "in support? in support of WHAT? no one knows whats going on people just want to act immediately.

the Media is inadvertently putting innocent peoples lives at risk by dramatizing issues they don't even know anything about....it's dangerous.
</P>


I don't even watch the news "**** the news" **** the politicians... nothing but a bunch of sound bite idots who think they know what we needand I'llthrow in sports news alsoitsall full of bull****.... you could grow tomatos on the hot air coming out of their mouths...Yeah I'm ****ing crazy ...but I'm not going to waste my time wishing and hoping for some kind of changethat ain't gonna happen... I just tune it the **** out the best I canand take care of my own *** and family the best can...you can't change what other peopledo, how they live or what they think....man to the best of my ability I tryto stay focused on the man I see in the mirror and he still needs a lot of work... I feel like at leastI know itand some days Ido try to become abetter person ...whatever ....my simple point is I guess is stop worrying about what other peopleare doing ....</P>


</P>


yeah.... JP I was justshouting out last nightthrought I saw your light on.....</P>

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 01:17 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one
Why cause I put that picture up? my friend put that up on facebook, he also happens to be black. its not racist is it?
I think Iv been very balanced. Iv showed multiple news articles of shootings just as bad if not worse than this and it doesnt get the coverage and you pretty much responded too bad on the double standard issue

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 01:18 PM
Heres another one Kase.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1qRRjVkLo


this is the first post i've seen from you but i don't know the other article you posted

but u know as well as i do that taking a kids life typically hits harder than anything else

****, thats the scumbag of criminals. Go to jail being a child rapist or killer - see how that works out for you
Dezz refuses to acknowledge the Trayvon Martin case because there are double standards that dont get the attention that this case gets
</P>


Lets just agree what happened it that case.</P>


The kid goes into this neighborhood armed with Skittles and Iced Tea to walk to his Father'd girlfriend's house. This overzealous dope with a gun thinks he's suspicious because he's wearing some kind of gang colors (in his opinion) and he's black so he follows him. The kid gets scared and finally confronts this moron. They may or may not have had some physical altercation and the moron shoots the kid dead.</P>


Then another friggin moron, this red-neck police chief, decides to believe the moron's story and lets him go.</P>


Then all hell breaks loose because every idiot with a camera decides to prop up their ratings by making this the crime of the century, and complete charleton's like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton take advantage to get their ugly mugs on TV.</P>


All this happens while black kids continue to get killed over the country and the cops do NOTHING because its black on black crime.</P>


But this is a "white hispanic", whatever the hell that is. If it was a pure hispanic it wouldn't be newsworthy.</P>


Its all propped up hysteria that reduces us all. </P>

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 01:22 PM
Heres another one Kase.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1qRRjVkLo


this is the first post i've seen from you but i don't know the other article you posted

but u know as well as i do that taking a kids life typically hits harder than anything else

****, thats the scumbag of criminals. Go to jail being a child rapist or killer - see how that works out for you
Dezz refuses to acknowledge the Trayvon Martin case because there are double standards that dont get the attention that this case gets
I said yesterday if Zimmerman was found guilty I hope he rots. We dont know all the facts. I refuse to be sucked into the media hoopla when over 15 other kids, ALL around the same age as tray, were also gunned down just this week, including a 6 year old little girl caught in the cross fire.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 01:24 PM
Heres another one Kase.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1qRRjVkLo


this is the first post i've seen from you but i don't know the other article you posted

but u know as well as i do that taking a kids life typically hits harder than anything else

****, thats the scumbag of criminals. Go to jail being a child rapist or killer - see how that works out for you
Dezz refuses to acknowledge the Trayvon Martin case because there are double standards that dont get the attention that this case gets
</p>


Lets just agree what happened it that case.</p>


The kid goes into this neighborhood armed with Skittles and Iced Tea to walk to his Father'd girlfriend's house. This overzealous dope with a gun thinks he's suspicious because he's wearing some kind of gang colors (in his opinion) and he's black so he follows him. The kid gets scared and finally confronts this moron. They may or may not have had some physical altercation and the moron shoots the kid dead.</p>


Then another friggin moron, this red-neck police chief, decides to believe the moron's story and lets him go.</p>


Then all hell breaks loose because every idiot with a camera decides to prop up their ratings by making this the crime of the century, and complete charleton's like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton take advantage to get their ugly mugs on TV.</p>


All this happens while black kids continue to get killed over the country and the cops do NOTHING because its black on black crime.</p>


But this is a "white hispanic", whatever the hell that is. If it was a pure hispanic it wouldn't be newsworthy.</p>


<u>Its all propped up hysteria that reduces us all. </u></p>[Y]

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 01:25 PM
But this is a "white hispanic", whatever the hell that is. If it was a pure hispanic it wouldn't be newsworthy.


Its all propped up hysteria that reduces us all. </p>

His last name is Zimmerman, perhaps the media knew most people wouldn't even look at the picture and just decide to get outraged because of the name...assuming it's White on Black.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 01:27 PM
Heres another one Kase.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html#ixzz1qRRjVkLo


this is the first post i've seen from you but i don't know the other article you posted

but u know as well as i do that taking a kids life typically hits harder than anything else

****, thats the scumbag of criminals. Go to jail being a child rapist or killer - see how that works out for you
Dezz refuses to acknowledge the Trayvon Martin case because there are double standards that dont get the attention that this case gets
I said yesterday if Zimmerman was found guilty I hope he rots. We dont know all the facts. I refuse to be sucked into the media hoopla when over 15 other kids, ALL around the same age as tray, were also gunned down just this week, including a 6 year old little girl caught in the cross fire.
</P>


Double standards Kase?</P>


Let me tell you about double standards. Jesse and Al don't show up for black on black murders. Also where the cops don't do anything. Because thats just not interesting or exploitable enough. A guy with a white face? Thats what they like. His name (George Zimmerman) even sounds really white. They respond to that like Pavlovian dogs.</P>


Thats a friggin double standard. </P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 01:28 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one
Why cause I put that picture up? my friend put that up on facebook, he also happens to be black. its not racist is it?
I think Iv been very balanced. Iv showed multiple news articles of shootings just as bad if not worse than this and it doesnt get the coverage and you pretty much responded too bad on the double standard issue



Racist, nah. Tasteless, yes

You're making it seem like its my fault somehow that these crimes arent getting the press attention. Hell my only media outlet was when I had a radio show in college, LOL and that was years ago

These crimes are horrendous and deserve to be known on a national level, but theyre only known on a local level for the most part

Double standards are terrible and we should be past that as a society, but that doesnt mean we should be insensitive because double standards exist

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 01:32 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one
Why cause I put that picture up? my friend put that up on facebook, he also happens to be black. its not racist is it?
I think Iv been very balanced. Iv showed multiple news articles of shootings just as bad if not worse than this and it doesnt get the coverage and you pretty much responded too bad on the double standard issue



Racist, nah. Tasteless, yes

Y<u>ou're making it seem like its my fault somehow that these crimes arent getting the press attention.</u> Hell my only media outlet was when I had a radio show in college, LOL and that was years ago

These crimes are horrendous and deserve to be known on a national level, but theyre only known on a local level for the most part

Double standards are terrible and we should be past that as a society, but that doesnt mean we should be insensitive because double standards exist
Well thats not my intention at all, its to show you the hypocrisy of the media.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 01:34 PM
Well thats not my intention at all, its to show you the hypocrisy of the media.

I think we all knew about the hypocrisy of the media, there are plenty of atrocities around the nation and world that get little to no coverage from the media

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 01:37 PM
mission accomplish, pizzle is gone. [:D]

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 01:38 PM
What's your fault Kase, is the overreaction you have to one particular situation, is it just some coincidence that you care SOOO much about Trayvon Martin vs the other 10-20 kids that age that have also died in a similar fashion over the last couple days? or do you care soo much because this is the one the media latched onto?

I think it's the later...because had the media not latched on to this you likely never would have heard about it at all.

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 01:41 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one
Why cause I put that picture up? my friend put that up on facebook, he also happens to be black. its not racist is it?
I think Iv been very balanced. Iv showed multiple news articles of shootings just as bad if not worse than this and it doesnt get the coverage and you pretty much responded too bad on the double standard issue



Racist, nah. Tasteless, yes

Y<u>ou're making it seem like its my fault somehow that these crimes arent getting the press attention.</u> Hell my only media outlet was when I had a radio show in college, LOL and that was years ago

These crimes are horrendous and deserve to be known on a national level, but theyre only known on a local level for the most part

Double standards are terrible and we should be past that as a society, but that doesnt mean we should be insensitive because double standards exist
Well thats not my intention at all, its to show you the hypocrisy of the media.



so your official position is that since all the others didn't get attention, this one shouldn't as well?

what a socialist way to look at it... obama would be proud

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 01:46 PM
What's your fault Kase, is the overreaction you have to one particular situation, is it just some coincidence that you care SOOO much about Trayvon Martin vs the other 10-20 kids that age that have also died in a similar fashion over the last couple days? or do you care soo much because this is the one the media latched onto?

I think it's the later...because had the media not latched on to this you likely never would have heard about it at all.
No need to get disrespectfully arrogant Scrappy

I guess its my 'fault' is that I actually care about injustices like this that go unpunished. Its not that I dont care about other crimes that have happened, this has been the one that we've been discussing for days now. Ill gladly discuss any other ones you would like...

This is just a different case with different circumstances than the ones Dezz posted about the shootings in Chicago and the b&amp;e in OK City

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 01:49 PM
What's your fault Kase, is the overreaction you have to one particular situation, is it just some coincidence that you care SOOO much about Trayvon Martin vs the other 10-20 kids that age that have also died in a similar fashion over the last couple days? or do you care soo much because this is the one the media latched onto?

I think it's the later...because had the media not latched on to this you likely never would have heard about it at all.
No need to get disrespectfully arrogant Scrappy

I guess its my 'fault' is that I actually care about injustices like this that go unpunished. Its not that I dont care about other crimes that have happened, this has been the one that we've been discussing for days now. Ill gladly discuss any other ones you would like...

This is just a different case with different circumstances than the ones Dezz posted about the shootings in Chicago and the b&amp;e in OK City


I don't mean to be disrespectful or arrogant Kase, and I'm sorry that you took it that way, I'm just trying to show you the error in your ways, you are getting all worked up over something simply because the media is blowing it up, you can say that's not the case, but I don't believe you, because if it wasn't the case, you'd be getting all heated over situations like this (and worse then this) multiple times a week, every week, every year...forever...but you haven't been getting heated like that...this is the first time...so clearly the reason you are angry is because the media told you to be...whether you want to admit it or not.


is this a tragedy yes, NO ONE is denying that, but it's hypocritical for you to say you are not being prompted by the media to react the way you are....because it's obvious that you are.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 01:51 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one
Why cause I put that picture up? my friend put that up on facebook, he also happens to be black. its not racist is it?
I think Iv been very balanced. Iv showed multiple news articles of shootings just as bad if not worse than this and it doesnt get the coverage and you pretty much responded too bad on the double standard issue



Racist, nah. Tasteless, yes

Y<u>ou're making it seem like its my fault somehow that these crimes arent getting the press attention.</u> Hell my only media outlet was when I had a radio show in college, LOL and that was years ago

These crimes are horrendous and deserve to be known on a national level, but theyre only known on a local level for the most part

Double standards are terrible and we should be past that as a society, but that doesnt mean we should be insensitive because double standards exist
Well thats not my intention at all, its to show you the hypocrisy of the media.



so your official position is that since all the others didn't get attention, this one shouldn't as well?

what a socialist way to look at it... obama would be proud


No, also the double standard.

Do you think because this was a "white on black" (quotes because he is also hispanic but the media ignores that)crime it deserves more coverage than all the other homicides that took place this weekend?

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 01:53 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one
Why cause I put that picture up? my friend put that up on facebook, he also happens to be black. its not racist is it?
I think Iv been very balanced. Iv showed multiple news articles of shootings just as bad if not worse than this and it doesnt get the coverage and you pretty much responded too bad on the double standard issue



Racist, nah. Tasteless, yes

Y<u>ou're making it seem like its my fault somehow that these crimes arent getting the press attention.</u> Hell my only media outlet was when I had a radio show in college, LOL and that was years ago

These crimes are horrendous and deserve to be known on a national level, but theyre only known on a local level for the most part

Double standards are terrible and we should be past that as a society, but that doesnt mean we should be insensitive because double standards exist
Well thats not my intention at all, its to show you the hypocrisy of the media.



so your official position is that since all the others didn't get attention, this one shouldn't as well?

what a socialist way to look at it... obama would be proud


No, also the double standard.

Do you think because this was a "white on black" (quotes because he is also hispanic but the media ignores that)crime it deserves more coverage than all the other homicides that took place this weekend?



im not the judge and jury, but as kase said the circumstances makes it different than most of the other homicides that took place.

And regardless - my point remains that you think it shouldn't get public attention because others didn't makes me feel sorry for you.

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 02:04 PM
mission accomplish, pizzle is gone. [:D]
</P>


nah just crazy busy today.</P>


FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU</P>

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 02:06 PM
What's your fault Kase, is the overreaction you have to one particular situation, is it just some coincidence that you care SOOO much about Trayvon Martin vs the other 10-20 kids that age that have also died in a similar fashion over the last couple days? or do you care soo much because this is the one the media latched onto?

I think it's the later...because had the media not latched on to this you likely never would have heard about it at all.
No need to get disrespectfully arrogant Scrappy

I guess its my 'fault' is that I actually care about injustices like this that go unpunished. Its not that I dont care about other crimes that have happened, this has been the one that we've been discussing for days now. Ill gladly discuss any other ones you would like...

This is just a different case with different circumstances than the ones Dezz posted about the shootings in Chicago and the b&amp;e in OK City


I don't mean to be disrespectful or arrogant Kase, and I'm sorry that you took it that way, I'm just trying to show you the error in your ways, you are getting all worked up over something simply because the media is blowing it up, you can say that's not the case, but I don't believe you, because if it wasn't the case, you'd be getting all heated over situations like this (and worse then this) multiple times a week, every week, every year...forever...but you haven't been getting heated like that...this is the first time...so clearly the reason you are angry is because the media told you to be...whether you want to admit it or not.


is this a tragedy yes, NO ONE is denying that, but it's hypocritical for you to say you are not being prompted by the media to react the way you are....because it's obvious that you are.
You see it as 'error in my ways' but thats what people call a difference of opinion

Me and you going back and forth has been hyping this up, and there have been PLENTY of atrocities that ive been upset over in my life, just because I dont mention them here doesnt mean I havent felt this way over other issues

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 02:06 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one
Why cause I put that picture up? my friend put that up on facebook, he also happens to be black. its not racist is it?
I think Iv been very balanced. Iv showed multiple news articles of shootings just as bad if not worse than this and it doesnt get the coverage and you pretty much responded too bad on the double standard issue



Racist, nah. Tasteless, yes

Y<u>ou're making it seem like its my fault somehow that these crimes arent getting the press attention.</u> Hell my only media outlet was when I had a radio show in college, LOL and that was years ago

These crimes are horrendous and deserve to be known on a national level, but theyre only known on a local level for the most part

Double standards are terrible and we should be past that as a society, but that doesnt mean we should be insensitive because double standards exist
Well thats not my intention at all, its to show you the hypocrisy of the media.



so your official position is that since all the others didn't get attention, this one shouldn't as well?

what a socialist way to look at it... obama would be proud


No, also the double standard.

Do you think because this was a "white on black" (quotes because he is also hispanic but the media ignores that)crime it deserves more coverage than all the other homicides that took place this weekend?



im not the judge and jury, but as kase said the circumstances makes it different than most of the other homicides that took place.

And regardless - <u>my point remains that you think it shouldn't get public attention because others didn't makes me feel sorry for you.</u>


I dont think that. I dont think race should fuel this case, like its doing. If you read everything I wrote you would see that.

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:09 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation. I don't care what color any of them are or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 02:09 PM
i completely understand the hate for the media, i have it too

but bottom line, you have an unarmed teen shot to death for just walking through a town.

its justified. Just because the media blows most of the time, doesn't mean that its propaganda machine 100% of the time.

so it's justified to have bounties on this guy before he's even been convicted, it's justified for the media to stir up hatred for this person before he's even had his trial? it's justified for innocent people who have nothing to do with Zimmerman to fear for their lives as crazy bang on their doors and demand that they produce him? no I don't think that's true Matt, I think this is all unjustified, I think the man deserves a fair trail...and if (only if!) he is convicted of the crime, then sure, hate him all you want...but until he's convicted I think it's dangerous to report on him as though he were.



Your just as bad as those who buy into the propaganda machine about every little thing (ya know, those people spreading awareness about every ****ing thing that they know nothing about on facebook), because you take the complete opposite extreme and just oppose anything that comes out on it. Find a balance


I think I am pretty balanced Matt, I think society has gone of the deep end that's the problem....



did you take this side of the argument for Timothy McVeigh? For OJ?

I mean come on man... this guy shot a kid in cold blood. He had NOTHING on him and this guy isn't even suppose to have a weapon on him.

I would considered you probably the lease balanced out of everybody in here when it comes to these debates.
I think even Morehead has been more balanced on this issue and we all know where me and him stand on political issues, LOL

IMO, Dezz and Daven have gone off the deep end on this one
Why cause I put that picture up? my friend put that up on facebook, he also happens to be black. its not racist is it?
I think Iv been very balanced. Iv showed multiple news articles of shootings just as bad if not worse than this and it doesnt get the coverage and you pretty much responded too bad on the double standard issue



Racist, nah. Tasteless, yes

Y<U>ou're making it seem like its my fault somehow that these crimes arent getting the press attention.</U> Hell my only media outlet was when I had a radio show in college, LOL and that was years ago

These crimes are horrendous and deserve to be known on a national level, but theyre only known on a local level for the most part

Double standards are terrible and we should be past that as a society, but that doesnt mean we should be insensitive because double standards exist
Well thats not my intention at all, its to show you the hypocrisy of the media.



so your official position is that since all the others didn't get attention, this one shouldn't as well?

what a socialist way to look at it... obama would be proud


No, also the double standard.

Do you think because this was a "white on black" (quotes because he is also hispanic but the media ignores that)crime it deserves more coverage than all the other homicides that took place this weekend?



im not the judge and jury, but as kase said the circumstances makes it different than most of the other homicides that took place.

And regardless - my point remains that you think it shouldn't get public attention because others didn't makes me feel sorry for you.


</P>


Its getting disproportionate attention due to the opportunism of the media and these so called social leaders.</P>


Its getting disproportional attention because "white" on black crimes are more interesting then black on black crime, or black on white.</P>


</P>


Its not the level of outrage that drives this story. So many other stories are far more outrageous. What drives this story is that these powers that be know that you would bite on it. And you did.</P>


They are the puppetmasters and you are the puppets. </P>


Now dance!!!!!</P>

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 02:12 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:13 PM
na i just don't hold any racial discrimination on a topic like this, apparently you do

and i agree that those making it a pro-black thing are equally disgusting as those who are trying to make it "ITS ONLY CUZ ITS A WHITE SHOOTER" argument

most are just outraged that a young life seems to of been taken for no reason and that there was some sort of misplay by the police

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 02:16 PM
na i just don't hold any racial discrimination on a topic like this, apparently you do

and i agree that those making it a pro-black thing are equally disgusting as those who are trying to make it "ITS ONLY CUZ ITS A WHITE SHOOTER" argument

<font size="6">most are just outraged that a young life seems to of been taken for no reason and that there was some sort of misplay by the police</font>

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 02:18 PM
na i just don't hold any racial discrimination on a topic like this, apparently you do

and i agree that those making it a pro-black thing are equally disgusting as those who are trying to make it "ITS ONLY CUZ ITS A WHITE SHOOTER" argument

most are just outraged that a young life seems to of been taken for no reason and that there was some sort of misplay by the police
Maybe you can show us where any of us were discriminating.

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 02:18 PM
na i just don't hold any racial discrimination on a topic like this, apparently you do

and i agree that those making it a pro-black thing are equally disgusting as those who are trying to make it "ITS ONLY CUZ ITS A WHITE SHOOTER" argument

<FONT size=6>most are just outraged that a young life seems to of been taken for no reason and that there was some sort of misplay by the police</FONT>
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MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:19 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same. Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:20 PM
na i just don't hold any racial discrimination on a topic like this, apparently you do

and i agree that those making it a pro-black thing are equally disgusting as those who are trying to make it "ITS ONLY CUZ ITS A WHITE SHOOTER" argument

most are just outraged that a young life seems to of been taken for no reason and that there was some sort of misplay by the police
Maybe you can show us where any of us were discriminating.


right now, by you taking up the other end of the racial debate is you taking a racial stance.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 02:23 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same. Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case




No you fool, Im speaking out against racism!!!!!! Black or white!!

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:27 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same. Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case




No you fool, Im speaking out against racism!!!!!! Black or white!!


no your not, thats a facade.

your speaking out against the black community leaders for only worrying about themselves

if this was an asian - latin thing, you wouldn't be outraged the way you are. Its only because its involving a white person. Your being just as racist as Revenerd Al. I am gonna call you Rev. Dezz from now on

Your adding to the racism debate, not defending it whether you realize it or not

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 02:28 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

<u>And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same.</u> Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case




I really doubt that. I posted a bunch of articles yesterday that would suggest other wise. Even black on black crimes get swept under the rug.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 02:29 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same. Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case




No you fool, Im speaking out against racism!!!!!! Black or white!!


no your not, thats a facade.

your speaking out against the black community leaders for only worrying about themselves

if this was an asian - latin thing, you wouldn't be outraged the way you are. Its only because its involving a white person. <u>Your being just as racist as Revenerd Al. </u>I am gonna call you Rev. Dezz from now on

Your adding to the racism debate, not defending it whether you realize it or not
lmao oh boooy. agree to disagree then.

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 02:29 PM
na i just don't hold any racial discrimination on a topic like this, apparently you do

and i agree that those making it a pro-black thing are equally disgusting as those who are trying to make it "ITS ONLY CUZ ITS A WHITE SHOOTER" argument

most are just outraged that a young life seems to of been taken for no reason and that there was some sort of misplay by the police
Maybe you can show us where any of us were discriminating.


right now, by you taking up the other end of the racial debate is you taking a racial stance.


It's clear that this story is racially motivated, one of the reasons this has gotten so much coverage is because its a white on black crime (and it isn't even really that but that's what they are selling it as) this is undeniable.

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:31 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

<u>And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same.</u> Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case




I really doubt that. I posted a bunch of articles yesterday that would suggest other wise. Even black on black crimes get swept under the rug.


swept under the rug? You have yet to show any case that has all of these things involved: young child killed senselessly and a possible police cover up.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 02:32 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same. Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case




No you fool, Im speaking out against racism!!!!!! Black or white!!


no your not, thats a facade.

your speaking out against the black community leaders for only worrying about themselves

if this was an asian - latin thing, you wouldn't be outraged the way you are. Its only because its involving a white person. Your being just as racist as Revenerd Al. I am gonna call you Rev. Dezz from now on

Your adding to the racism debate, not defending it whether you realize it or not
Dezz Sharpton!!!

LMAO

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 02:34 PM
na i just don't hold any racial discrimination on a topic like this, apparently you do

and i agree that those making it a pro-black thing are equally disgusting as those who are trying to make it "ITS ONLY CUZ ITS A WHITE SHOOTER" argument

most are just outraged that a young life seems to of been taken for no reason and that there was some sort of misplay by the police
Maybe you can show us where any of us were discriminating.


right now, by you taking up the other end of the racial debate is you taking a racial stance.


It's clear that this story is racially motivated, one of the reasons this has gotten so much coverage is because its a white on black crime (and it isn't even really that but that's what they are selling it as) this is undeniable.
Also a story of no arrest or prosecution, a story of an unarmed teenager being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law into his own hands

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:35 PM
na i just don't hold any racial discrimination on a topic like this, apparently you do

and i agree that those making it a pro-black thing are equally disgusting as those who are trying to make it "ITS ONLY CUZ ITS A WHITE SHOOTER" argument

most are just outraged that a young life seems to of been taken for no reason and that there was some sort of misplay by the police
Maybe you can show us where any of us were discriminating.


right now, by you taking up the other end of the racial debate is you taking a racial stance.


It's clear that this story is racially motivated, one of the reasons this has gotten so much coverage is because its a white on black crime (and it isn't even really that but that's what they are selling it as) this is undeniable.
Also a story of no arrest or prosecution, a story of an unarmed teenager being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law into his own hands


yea its funny how they both just overlook those things

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:37 PM
go catch the story of the West Memphis Three

HUGE following and it was white on white crime

certain stories grab the attention of others - just the way it is....

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 02:39 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

<u>And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same.</u> Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case




I really doubt that. I posted a bunch of articles yesterday that would suggest other wise. Even black on black crimes get swept under the rug.


swept under the rug? You have yet to show any case that has all of these things involved: young child killed senselessly and a possible police cover up.


A young child? He was 17. Almost all homicides are senseless. What about the 6 year old caught in the cross fire???

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 02:42 PM
Also a story of no arrest or prosecution

you need to wait a ****ing week at least, they need to make sure they charge him with the right crime, if they charge him and prosecute him on the wrong crime he could get off with nothing, you are acting like this is something crazy unusual...it's not, the Police need to make sure they do everything right....especially in a case like this that's blown up...otherwise it's their ***, it's likely he will be arrested and prosecuted but it has to be done right...(not quick)


a story of an unarmed teenager being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law into his own hands

These two things are irrelevant to me, because they are so unbelievably common.

The question isn't whether this is a horrible situation or not, (obviously everyone agrees that it is)

The question is why THIS one situation is getting so much attention when so many others are swept under the rug.

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:44 PM
its just funny how this debate has turned

black people use to always make arguments about how its ****ed up if a white kid goes missing its news and bla bla bla. Now its like white people trying to make a thing of it.

Im taking the race out of it when i look at this. I just see a kid murdered because some ****** bag had a power complex of power he didn't really have and it seems like there may of been a cover up with the police ****ing up the investigation.<u> I don't care what color any of them are</u> or why its a national topic. At the end of the day I think its a good thing its a topic any time light is shed on something of this nature - its a positive

go watch Patrice ONeals elephant in the room standup hour. It hits on this topic
But African Americans do!! Thats why Al and Jessie are there. intentionally or not, they are inciting more racism.


so what? So you feel you need to come to defend the white people on this?

lol thanks bro, i'm good, u can just speak for yourself on this matter. And by doing that, it makes u just as bad as them

IF you want to be annoyed at the Al and Jessies of the world thats fine, but it makes u stray from the point at hand. Your letting your political and racial issues cloud all of that.

<u>And make no mistake about it, if this was a black shooter on a white kid the outcry would be the same.</u> Its how it is, deal with it. Just be happy that the details of this didn't get swept under the rug like it seemed it might have. The attention was a positive in this case




I really doubt that. I posted a bunch of articles yesterday that would suggest other wise. Even black on black crimes get swept under the rug.


swept under the rug? You have yet to show any case that has all of these things involved: young child killed senselessly and a possible police cover up.


A young child? He was 17. Almost all homicides are senseless. What about the 6 year old caught in the cross fire???


yea bro, teenagers are young kids.

"Also a story of no arrest or prosecution, a story of an unarmed teenager
being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of
someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law
into his own hands"

to quote kase, was there any of that going on in that story besides the fact that a stray bullet hit a child with no intent to?

its amazing how your trying to relate a million different cases with absolutely nothing the same about them except that somebody was killed.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 02:44 PM
Also a story of no arrest or prosecution

you need to wait a ****ing week at least, they need to make sure they charge him with the right crime, if they charge him and prosecute him on the wrong crime he could get off with nothing, you are acting like this is something crazy unusual...it's not, the Police need to make sure they do everything right....especially in a case like this that's blown up...otherwise it's their ***, it's likely he will be arrested and prosecuted but it has to be done right...(not quick)


a story of an unarmed teenager being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law into his own hands

These two things are irrelevant to me, because they are so unbelievably common.

The question isn't whether this is a horrible situation or not, (obviously everyone agrees that it is)

The question is why THIS one situation is getting so much attention when so many others are swept under the rug.
I just mentioned 2 reasons but they arent valid for you, what about the angle of someone who seemed to have watched too many Death Wish movies and stalked a kid who was walking home and then shot him after being told to stay put and the cops would handle it

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 02:45 PM
Also a story of no arrest or prosecution

you need to wait a ****ing week at least, they need to make sure they charge him with the right crime, if they charge him and prosecute him on the wrong crime he could get off with nothing, you are acting like this is something crazy unusual...it's not, the Police need to make sure they do everything right....especially in a case like this that's blown up...otherwise it's their ***, it's likely he will be arrested and prosecuted but it has to be done right...(not quick)


a story of an unarmed teenager being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law into his own hands

These two things are irrelevant to me, because they are so unbelievably common.

The question isn't whether this is a horrible situation or not, (obviously everyone agrees that it is)

The question is why THIS one situation is getting so much attention when so many others are swept under the rug.


if its that common how come you guys can't name a case/story of similiar circumstances?

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 02:49 PM
if its that common how come you guys can't name a case/story of similiar circumstances?

Dezz already supplied links, it's not our fault you won't look at them.

What about the minute men enforcing their "law" on illegals crossing the boarder...were they not taking law into their own hands?

look if you want to be ignorant that's your choice...be the puppet that's fine I really give up caring, I'm trying to help you guys out...clearly you want to stay naive though...whatever.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 02:51 PM
Also a story of no arrest or prosecution

you need to wait a ****ing week at least, they need to make sure they charge him with the right crime, if they charge him and prosecute him on the wrong crime he could get off with nothing, you are acting like this is something crazy unusual...it's not, the Police need to make sure they do everything right....especially in a case like this that's blown up...otherwise it's their ***, it's likely he will be arrested and prosecuted but it has to be done right...(not quick)


a story of an unarmed teenager being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law into his own hands

These two things are irrelevant to me, because they are so unbelievably common.

The question isn't whether this is a horrible situation or not, (obviously everyone agrees that it is)

The question is why THIS one situation is getting so much attention when so many others are swept under the rug.


if its that common how come you guys can't name a case/story of similiar circumstances?
I showed cases where race WAS involved and the hoopla wasnt the same. its a double standard. open your eyes.

Kase-1
03-30-2012, 02:56 PM
Also a story of no arrest or prosecution

you need to wait a ****ing week at least, they need to make sure they charge him with the right crime, if they charge him and prosecute him on the wrong crime he could get off with nothing, you are acting like this is something crazy unusual...it's not, the Police need to make sure they do everything right....especially in a case like this that's blown up...otherwise it's their ***, it's likely he will be arrested and prosecuted but it has to be done right...(not quick)


a story of an unarmed teenager being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law into his own hands

These two things are irrelevant to me, because they are so unbelievably common.

The question isn't whether this is a horrible situation or not, (obviously everyone agrees that it is)

The question is why THIS one situation is getting so much attention when so many others are swept under the rug.


if its that common how come you guys can't name a case/story of similiar circumstances?
I showed cases where race WAS involved and the hoopla wasnt the same. its a double standard. open your eyes.



See you only seeing it as a race issue rather than an issue of an unarmed kid getting stalked and shot by an overzealous memeber of the community after he was told that the cops would take care of it

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 03:03 PM
Also a story of no arrest or prosecution

you need to wait a ****ing week at least, they need to make sure they charge him with the right crime, if they charge him and prosecute him on the wrong crime he could get off with nothing, you are acting like this is something crazy unusual...it's not, the Police need to make sure they do everything right....especially in a case like this that's blown up...otherwise it's their ***, it's likely he will be arrested and prosecuted but it has to be done right...(not quick)


a story of an unarmed teenager being shot, a story of a man being told that police will take care of someone being 'suspicious' which is their job and him taking the law into his own hands

These two things are irrelevant to me, because they are so unbelievably common.

The question isn't whether this is a horrible situation or not, (obviously everyone agrees that it is)

The question is why THIS one situation is getting so much attention when so many others are swept under the rug.


if its that common how come you guys can't name a case/story of similiar circumstances?
I showed cases where race WAS involved and the hoopla wasnt the same. its a double standard. open your eyes.



<u>See you only seeing it as a race</u> issue rather than an issue of an unarmed kid getting stalked and shot by an overzealous memeber of the community after he was told that the cops would take care of it
No I dont see it that way, I promise you. THE MEDIA sees it that way. Thats what MH, Daven and I have been trying to point that out. I dont know how many times I/we have to say, this was tragic and I hope Zimmerman gets a long long sentence if hes found guilty.

dezzzR
03-30-2012, 03:16 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/amal-ahmed-abdel-fatah-al-sada-osama-bin-laden_n_1390789.html?ref=topbar


osama smoking that laaa la laaaaa

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 03:17 PM
I can't speak for Daven or Dez...I can only speak for Morehead.</P>


My point is that this is a tragic case. It seems to be an outrageous case of both an overzealous citizen and a foolish Police Chief.</P>


Having said that the national attention does not match to outrageous behavior in this case. What has driven this case are camera happy TV personalities, foolish cable networks and nutty opportunists who always seem to show thier faces in these kinds of cases. All without knowing all the facts but being very happy to fill in the blanks in ways that creates opportunities for them. (Can you say Duke rapes case?)</P>


But although we don't know all the facts, it does seem that this was a case of murder and police misconduct.</P>

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 03:25 PM
Jason Peters out for all of next season.</P>


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jason-Peters-Philadelphia-Eagles-ruptures-Achilles-tendon-033012</P>

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 03:36 PM
I severely am growing to dislike middle 60 yr old woman who grow selfish and do not respect or allow any consideration for other's. I have this one woman in my office who from the time she comes in, until the time she goes home does nothing but make noise. From throwing and slamming things around to endlesssssssss, babbling, gossip, diarheaa of the mouth.

It truly boggles my mind that someone can percieve it to be ok that they act this way in the workplace.

God dare you if you ask her to quiet down or refrain from her racial blast's while you are on the phone.....She acts as if the one asking her to quiet down is the crazy person.

Back to what Devon was saying earlier.

It makes me think I the one who's insane.

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 03:39 PM
I severely am growing to dislike middle 60 yr old woman who grow selfish and do not respect or allow any consideration for other's. I have this one woman in my office who from the time she comes in, until the time she goes home does nothing but make noise. From throwing and slamming things around to endlesssssssss, babbling, gossip, diarheaa of the mouth.

It truly boggles my mind that someone can percieve it to be ok that they act this way in the workplace.

God dare you if you ask her to quiet down or refrain from her racial blast's while you are on the phone.....She acts as if the one asking her to quiet down is the crazy person.

Back to what Devon was saying earlier.

It makes me think I the one who's insane.

I have a guy who is exactly like that in my office, but he's almost deaf...I think he maybe makes noise all day long just to make sure he can still hear, I'm not sure...that's the only thing I can think of though, I can not come up with any other logical reason for someone to constantly be making as much noise as possible at all times.

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 03:44 PM
I severely am growing to dislike middle 60 yr old woman who grow selfish and do not respect or allow any consideration for other's. I have this one woman in my office who from the time she comes in, until the time she goes home does nothing but make noise. From throwing and slamming things around to endlesssssssss, babbling, gossip, diarheaa of the mouth.

It truly boggles my mind that someone can percieve it to be ok that they act this way in the workplace.

God dare you if you ask her to quiet down or refrain from her racial blast's while you are on the phone.....She acts as if the one asking her to quiet down is the crazy person.

Back to what Devon was saying earlier.

It makes me think I the one who's insane.

I have a guy who is exactly like that in my office, but he's almost deaf...I think he maybe makes noise all day long just to make sure he can still hear, I'm not sure...that's the only thing I can think of though, I can not come up with any other logical reason for someone to constantly be making as much noise as possible at all times.
I am so tired of feeling like I am the bad guy when this rude ****ing ***** has to be spoken to!! Ah yeah, your guy's deaf...this lady makes everyone wish they were deaf. You can hear her thru walls. When I'm working on complicated stuff , sometimes I have to put earplugs in.

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 03:44 PM
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03-30-2012, 03:47 PM
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dezzzR
03-30-2012, 03:50 PM
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DavenIII
03-30-2012, 03:52 PM
I severely am growing to dislike middle 60 yr old woman who grow selfish and do not respect or allow any consideration for other's. I have this one woman in my office who from the time she comes in, until the time she goes home does nothing but make noise. From throwing and slamming things around to endlesssssssss, babbling, gossip, diarheaa of the mouth.

It truly boggles my mind that someone can percieve it to be ok that they act this way in the workplace.

God dare you if you ask her to quiet down or refrain from her racial blast's while you are on the phone.....She acts as if the one asking her to quiet down is the crazy person.

Back to what Devon was saying earlier.

It makes me think I the one who's insane.

I have a guy who is exactly like that in my office, but he's almost deaf...I think he maybe makes noise all day long just to make sure he can still hear, I'm not sure...that's the only thing I can think of though, I can not come up with any other logical reason for someone to constantly be making as much noise as possible at all times.
I am so tired of feeling like I am the bad guy when this rude ****ing ***** has to be spoken to!! Ah yeah, your guy's deaf...this lady makes everyone wish they were deaf. You can hear her thru walls. When I'm working on complicated stuff , sometimes I have to put earplugs in.

I use headphones when it gets bad, I mean, he talks with his mother about her health issues...and I know everyone has em, but I don't want to hear details about her bed pan issues while I'm working...and it's real loud cause he's close to deaf so he can't hear himself...it's practically like he's yelling at all times....he's been moved a few times because people have complained but no one really wants to tell him cause it's a disability I guess.

lttaylor56
03-30-2012, 04:07 PM
I severely am growing to dislike middle 60 yr old woman who grow selfish and do not respect or allow any consideration for other's. I have this one woman in my office who from the time she comes in, until the time she goes home does nothing but make noise. From throwing and slamming things around to endlesssssssss, babbling, gossip, diarheaa of the mouth.

It truly boggles my mind that someone can percieve it to be ok that they act this way in the workplace.

God dare you if you ask her to quiet down or refrain from her racial blast's while you are on the phone.....She acts as if the one asking her to quiet down is the crazy person.

Back to what Devon was saying earlier.

It makes me think I the one who's insane.

I have a guy who is exactly like that in my office, but he's almost deaf...I think he maybe makes noise all day long just to make sure he can still hear, I'm not sure...that's the only thing I can think of though, I can not come up with any other logical reason for someone to constantly be making as much noise as possible at all times.
I am so tired of feeling like I am the bad guy when this rude ****ing ***** has to be spoken to!! Ah yeah, your guy's deaf...this lady makes everyone wish they were deaf. You can hear her thru walls. When I'm working on complicated stuff , sometimes I have to put earplugs in.

I use headphones when it gets bad, I mean, he talks with his mother about her health issues...and I know everyone has em, but I don't want to hear details about her bed pan issues while I'm working...and it's real loud cause he's close to deaf so he can't hear himself...it's practically like he's yelling at all times....he's been moved a few times because people have complained but no one really wants to tell him cause it's a disability I guess.

Exactly--the disability is the thing. I can appreciate that and I would not say anything to him.

I have a set of the leaf blower noise reduction headphones in my drawer, but I have never used them. I get angry....Should all of her co-workers have to suffer or use earplugs/headphones or could she just offer some common respect and consideration. Maybe it's just me? I'm the crazy one.

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 04:50 PM
Obama's campaigning on ****ing change again! he just did a speech at a university in Vermont.

seriously? .he's just going on and on about how he's ready to "change" again, it's like an exact replica of his campaign speeches from the last presidential race, he's already changed enough.

I can't take it how can people want our country to look so bad, how can they want a bad economy/unemployment/radical spending he's PROVEN that his so called change is bad for the country...hasn't he "changed" (AKA ruined) enough already...how can people still want this?

He's gonna win again, I hope to god we can hold on to at least the house for another 4 years, we have to hold back his tsunami of terrible policies for another 4 years....god help us as a country, we can't be this stupid can we? I'm losing faith, my god, it's a ****ing nightmare...

people are literally electing someone because he has a good voice....they literally don't give a damn what he stands for...how did this happen.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 04:52 PM
Obama's campaigning on ****ing change again! he just did a speech at a university in Vermont.

seriously? .he's just going on and on about how he's ready to "change" again, it's like an exact replica of his campaign speeches from the last presidential race, he's already changed enough.

I can't take it how can people want our country to look so bad, how can they want a bad economy/unemployment/radical spending he's PROVEN that his so called change is bad for the country...hasn't he "changed" (AKA ruined) enough already...how can people still want this?

He's gonna win again, I hope to god we can hold on to at least the house for another 4 years, we have to hold back his tsunami of terrible policies for another 4 years....god help us as a country, we can't be this stupid can we? I'm losing faith my god, it's a ****ing nightmare...

people are literally electing someone because he has a good voice....they literally don't give a damn what he stands for...how did this happen.
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He's right. We definately need a change............In the White House.</P>

JPizzack
03-30-2012, 04:53 PM
Obama's campaigning on ****ing change again! he just did a speech at a university in Vermont.

seriously? .he's just going on and on about how he's ready to "change" again, it's like an exact replica of his campaign speeches from the last presidential race, he's already changed enough.

I can't take it how can people want our country to look so bad, how can they want a bad economy/unemployment/radical spending he's PROVEN that his so called change is bad for the country...hasn't he "changed" (AKA ruined) enough already...how can people still want this?

He's gonna win again, I hope to god we can hold on to at least the house for another 4 years, we have to hold back his tsunami of terrible policies for another 4 years....god help us as a country, we can't be this stupid can we? I'm losing faith, my god, it's a ****ing nightmare...

people are literally electing someone because he has a good voice....they literally don't give a damn what he stands for...how did this happen.
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because 95% of the country hates rich white people. pretty simple stuff if you ask me buddy</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 05:01 PM
Obama's campaigning on ****ing change again! he just did a speech at a university in Vermont.

seriously? .he's just going on and on about how he's ready to "change" again, it's like an exact replica of his campaign speeches from the last presidential race, he's already changed enough.

I can't take it how can people want our country to look so bad, how can they want a bad economy/unemployment/radical spending he's PROVEN that his so called change is bad for the country...hasn't he "changed" (AKA ruined) enough already...how can people still want this?

He's gonna win again, I hope to god we can hold on to at least the house for another 4 years, we have to hold back his tsunami of terrible policies for another 4 years....god help us as a country, we can't be this stupid can we? I'm losing faith my god, it's a ****ing nightmare...

people are literally electing someone because he has a good voice....they literally don't give a damn what he stands for...how did this happen.
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He's right. We definately need a change............In the White House.</p>

too bad the republican party has become a bunch of extremists and can't put forth a halfway decent candidate...

oh well... obama12

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 05:10 PM
too bad the republican party has become a bunch of extremists and can't put forth a halfway decent candidate...

oh well... obama12


Exactly the opposite, you guys are a bunch of extremists...the republicans are constantly making concessions and compromises, today's moderate republicans are literally further left leaning and more liberal then yesterdays democrats...it's spiraling out of control, we need the opposite, we need REAL conservatism....before our country no longer reassembles the America that became the most successful country in the world, it's like America WANT's to fail.

MattMeyerBud
03-30-2012, 05:15 PM
too bad the republican party has become a bunch of extremists and can't put forth a halfway decent candidate...

oh well... obama12


Exactly the opposite, you guys are a bunch of extremists...the republicans are constantly making concessions and compromises, today's moderate republicans are literally further left leaning and more liberal then yesterdays democrats...it's spiraling out of control, we need the opposite, we need REAL conservatism....before our country no longer reassembles the America that became the most successful country in the world, it's like America WANT's to fail.


Santorum, Newt, and Mitt

good call.

Its like you actually don't follow any of this at all. Obama has been more right than any other democratic president. Truth is that republicans were on a year binge of just stonewalling EVERYTHING that came through because the opposed OBama.

watch more CSpan

DavenIII
03-30-2012, 05:19 PM
Santorum, Newt, and Mitt

Newt and Mitt are what I would call Old School Democrates...they are pretty close to the center...Santorum is Far right socially but not economically.

It's why I don't like any of the candidates....none of them are real republicans...they are ALL closer to centrists then conservatives.



Its like you actually don't follow any of this at all. Obama has been more right than any other democratic president. Truth is that republicans were on a year binge of just stonewalling EVERYTHING that came through because the opposed OBama.

watch more CSpan


Obama is the furthest left this country has gone since the new deal....he's a radical idealist who literally believes that a utopia is possible.

It's like YOU don't follow any of this at all lol, maybe you need to watch more C-Span.

Morehead State
03-30-2012, 06:58 PM
too bad the republican party has become a bunch of extremists and can't put forth a halfway decent candidate...

oh well... obama12


Exactly the opposite, you guys are a bunch of extremists...the republicans are constantly making concessions and compromises, today's moderate republicans are literally further left leaning and more liberal then yesterdays democrats...it's spiraling out of control, we need the opposite, we need REAL conservatism....before our country no longer reassembles the America that became the most successful country in the world, it's like America WANT's to fail.


Santorum, Newt, and Mitt

good call.

Its like you actually don't follow any of this at all. Obama has been more right than any other democratic president. Truth is that republicans were on a year binge of just stonewalling EVERYTHING that came through because the opposed OBama.

watch more CSpan
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bigblue4417
03-31-2012, 12:47 AM
Hello Gentlemen...Miss all you guys. It really sucks not being able to get on the boards.


If any of you see Pats please tell him I said thank you VERY MUCH. He sent me some cool stuff. The best thing is a limited edition Kobe figurine, only 2000 made. Really cool. I want to open it but I know that's stupid. Also 2 MJ cards, Kobe cards and of course some Giants stuff. That guy is incredible.

JPizzack
03-31-2012, 11:42 AM
Hello Gentlemen...Miss all you guys. It really sucks not being able to get on the boards.


If any of you see Pats please tell him I said thank you VERY MUCH. He sent me some cool stuff. The best thing is a limited edition Kobe figurine, only 2000 made. Really cool. I want to open it but I know that's stupid. Also 2 MJ cards, Kobe cards and of course some Giants stuff. That guy is incredible.
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JPizzack
04-02-2012, 10:13 AM
What's the deal? nobody around today?

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 10:13 AM
What's the deal? nobody around today?

bigblue4417
04-02-2012, 10:21 AM
New Nike gear came out with more to come. This shirt is ****ing awesome.

http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_800000%2fff_80046 3_xl.jpg&amp;w=400

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 10:36 AM
New Nike gear came out with more to come. This shirt is ****ing awesome.

http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_800000%2fff_80046 3_xl.jpg&amp;w=400
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JPizzack
04-02-2012, 10:42 AM
the ny logoon the player shirts....looks different. it's like more compact almost. </P>


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lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 10:47 AM
The nike gear is pretty cool.

Wow-these new boards are just like the old boards. I never even noticed the transition. lol

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 10:48 AM
the ny logo*on the player shirts....looks different. it's like more compact almost. </P>


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is it just me who thinks that??</P>It's just you. The logo size is pretty close.

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 10:50 AM
The nike gear is pretty cool. Wow-these new boards are just like the old boards. I never even noticed the transition. lol</P>


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i didnt even have to log in or anything! </P>

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 10:50 AM
Hello Gentlemen...Miss all you guys. It really sucks not being able to get on the boards.


If any of you see Pats please tell him I said thank you VERY MUCH. He sent me some cool stuff. The best thing is a limited edition Kobe figurine, only 2000 made. Really cool. I want to open it but I know that's stupid. Also 2 MJ cards, Kobe cards and of course some Giants stuff. That guy is incredible.
Was up buddy? Matt's gone with limited acess to boards now...you as well? Ayye! Pat's is the man. He sent me some very cool stuff as well.

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 10:51 AM
The nike gear is pretty cool. Wow-these new boards are just like the old boards. I never even noticed the transition. lol</P>


lmao</P>


i didnt even have to log in or anything! </P>Isn't it great? Completely seamless transition. IT dept should be commended on their performance.

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 11:00 AM
The nike gear is pretty cool. Wow-these new boards are just like the old boards. I never even noticed the transition. lol</P>


lmao</P>


i didnt even have to log in or anything! </P>


Isn't it great? Completely seamless transition. IT dept should be commended on their performance.</P>


lol for real!
I mean, they made it look identical!!!</P>

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 11:12 AM
The nike gear is pretty cool. Wow-these new boards are just like the old boards. I never even noticed the transition. lol</P>


lmao</P>


i didnt even have to log in or anything! </P>


Isn't it great? Completely seamless transition. IT dept should be commended on their performance.</P>


lol for real!
I mean, they made it look identical!!!</P>--Andre Brown got nailed for performance enhancing substance? Oh man. I don't know if I am leaning toward his achilles not being ready to go and he taking some ****tails or he's trying to put on extra size and strength since BJ's gone.

bigblue4417
04-02-2012, 11:12 AM
The nike gear is pretty cool. Wow-these new boards are just like the old boards. I never even noticed the transition. lol</p>


lmao</p>


i didnt even have to log in or anything! </p>


Isn't it great? Completely seamless transition. IT dept should be commended on their performance.</p>


lol for real!
I mean, they made it look identical!!!</p>
I didn't even realize it at all. Are you sure it was switched? lol

bigblue4417
04-02-2012, 11:13 AM
when do we see jerseys?
TOMORROW [:D]

dezzzR
04-02-2012, 11:16 AM
The nike gear is pretty cool. Wow-these new boards are just like the old boards. I never even noticed the transition. lol</p>


lmao</p>


i didnt even have to log in or anything! </p>


Isn't it great? Completely seamless transition. IT dept should be commended on their performance.</p>


lol for real!
I mean, they made it look identical!!!</p>--Andre Brown got nailed for performance enhancing substance? Oh man. I don't know if I am leaning toward his achilles not being ready to go and he taking some ****tails or he's trying to put on extra size and strength since BJ's gone.That sucks....

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 11:22 AM
when do we see jerseys?
TOMORROW [:D]
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JPizzack
04-02-2012, 11:25 AM
Andre Brown got nailed for performance enhancing substance? Oh man. I don't know if I am leaning toward his achilles not being ready to go and he taking some ****tails or he's trying to put on extra size and strength since BJ's gone.That sucks....
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Morehead State
04-02-2012, 11:28 AM
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lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 11:35 AM
<FONT size=4>The Mod's in* charge of the MB transition.</FONT></P>


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2009/12/3/1259844801578/Dumb-and-Dumber-001.jpg</P>Wait a minute that's Sanchez and Teebow!!! **** and ****tier ..Where every pass is an adventure

dezzzR
04-02-2012, 11:36 AM
Andre Brown got nailed for performance enhancing substance? Oh man. I don't know if I am leaning toward his achilles not being ready to go and he taking some ****tails or he's trying to put on extra size and strength since BJ's gone.That sucks....
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yea but....the only person expecting anything from this guy was Matt. lol (at least i think it was him)</p>At least Iv seen him make it out of the backfield in last years preseason, unlike ware.

Ouuuuch, burn. [:)]

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 11:53 AM
Andre Brown got nailed for performance enhancing substance? Oh man. I don't know if I am leaning toward his achilles not being ready to go and he taking some ****tails or he's trying to put on extra size and strength since BJ's gone.That sucks....
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yea but....the only person expecting anything from this guy was Matt. lol (at least i think it was him)</P>


At least Iv seen him make it out of the backfield in last years preseason, unlike ware.

Ouuuuch, burn. [:)]
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uhh...how is that a burn? we're going off preseason now? lol
yet ...what did Brown do this year? oh thats right he didnt even play...Ware was used on Goalline plays this year....whatever, it doesnt matter. Cuz if i were to pick a #2 RB, it'd probably be Scott...if we were choosing from what we had already.</P>

dezzzR
04-02-2012, 11:53 AM
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JPizzack
04-02-2012, 11:56 AM
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what underwhelmingly unimportant news!! lol
I've never heard of him.</P>

dezzzR
04-02-2012, 12:02 PM
Andre Brown got nailed for performance enhancing substance? Oh man. I don't know if I am leaning toward his achilles not being ready to go and he taking some ****tails or he's trying to put on extra size and strength since BJ's gone.That sucks....
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yea but....the only person expecting anything from this guy was Matt. lol (at least i think it was him)</p>


At least Iv seen him make it out of the backfield in last years preseason, unlike ware.

Ouuuuch, burn. [:)]
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uhh...how is that a burn? we're going off preseason now? lol
yet ...what did Brown do this year? oh thats right he didnt even play...<u>Ware was used on Goalline plays this year</u>....whatever, it doesnt matter. Cuz if i were to pick a #2 RB, it'd probably be Scott...if we were choosing from what we had already.</p>Thats the only time we got to see him. Point being that anyone is better than Ware. He was used in passing downs because hes a decent blocker. Thats the only reason he was ahead of either Scott and Brown. Ware might as well try and tack on as much mass as possible and try out for tightend.

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 12:03 PM
Thats the only time we got to see him. Point being that anyone is better than Ware. He was used in passing downs because hes a decent blocker. Thats the only reason he was ahead of either Scott and Brown. Ware might as well try and tack on as much mass as possible and try out for tightend.
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lol he's not big enough for that....he'd have to work on that for awhile haha</P>

dezzzR
04-02-2012, 12:08 PM
Thats the only time we got to see him. Point being that anyone is better than Ware. He was used in passing downs because hes a decent blocker. Thats the only reason he was ahead of either Scott and Brown. Ware might as well try and tack on as much mass as possible and try out for tightend.
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lol he's not big enough for that....he'd have to work on that for awhile haha</p>lol That was a joke pizzle. His slow *** should be cut immediately.

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 12:19 PM
Thats the only time we got to see him. Point being that anyone is better than Ware. He was used in passing downs because hes a decent blocker. Thats the only reason he was ahead of either Scott and Brown. Ware might as well try and tack on as much mass as possible and try out for tightend.
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lol he's not big enough for that....he'd have to work on that for awhile haha</p>lol That was a joke pizzle. His slow *** should be cut immediately.
Scott is a straight out burner. He toasted defenses for some long runs last pre-season. He just had to fully understand what the offense is doing. If he has a handle on the playbook, I agree make Scott the #2.

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 12:23 PM
Thats the only time we got to see him. Point being that anyone is better than Ware. He was used in passing downs because hes a decent blocker. Thats the only reason he was ahead of either Scott and Brown. Ware might as well try and tack on as much mass as possible and try out for tightend.
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lol he's not big enough for that....he'd have to work on that for awhile haha</P>


lol That was a joke pizzle. His slow *** should be cut immediately.
Scott is a straight out burner. He toasted defenses for some long runs last pre-season. He just had to fully understand what the offense is doing. If he has a handle on the playbook, I agree make Scott the #2.</P>


the dude came in as a project back. might be another year or 2 before we see any REAL production out of him. but, i rather get that show on the road now....lol</P>

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 12:27 PM
Thats the only time we got to see him. Point being that anyone is better than Ware. He was used in passing downs because hes a decent blocker. Thats the only reason he was ahead of either Scott and Brown. Ware might as well try and tack on as much mass as possible and try out for tightend.
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lol he's not big enough for that....he'd have to work on that for awhile haha</P>


lol That was a joke pizzle. His slow *** should be cut immediately.
Scott is a straight out burner. He toasted defenses for some long runs last pre-season. He just had to fully understand what the offense is doing. If he has a handle on the playbook, I agree make Scott the #2.</P>


the dude came in as a project back. might be another year or 2 before we see any REAL production out of him. but, i rather get that show on the road now....lol</P>My largest concern would be ball security. As long as he's not dropping the rock, let him get his reps, his speed will create issues for def's.

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 12:30 PM
I know the new nike jersey comes out tmrw. With all the talk, I'm excited to see them.

How much could the design actually change?

I hear so many people saying "you can't wear the old jersey's anymore" That's plain ridiculous.

Are they kidding? ****, I'll freaking sew Nike logo's on my sleeve over the Reebok logo. My buddy would absolutely loose his mind.....I decided, that's what I'm going to do. lmao.

dezzzR
04-02-2012, 01:50 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?Ahmad Bradshaw (http://www.facebook.com/AhmadBradshaw44)
said he had bone marrow taken from his hip and injected into his foot
at the end of February to build new bone. He will not run for 3 months.
He hopes to be ready by end of June. He wants to be an everyday
participant in Training Camp this season, unlike last season.</span></h6>


</p>

He also wants to carry the load with a 75/25 split.
</p>

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 01:50 PM
I know the new nike jersey comes out tmrw. With all the talk, I'm excited to see them. How much could the design actually change? I hear so many people saying "you can't wear the old jersey's anymore" That's plain ridiculous. Are they kidding? ****, I'll freaking sew Nike logo's on my sleeve over the Reebok logo. My buddy would absolutely loose his mind.....I decided, that's what I'm going to do. lmao.</P>


lol, what? what is that even supposed to mean?? Why wouldnt I wear the jerseys i have??
</P>

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 01:55 PM
<H6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<DIV class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft='{"type":2}'>In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</DIV></H6>
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":1}'><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft='{"type":3}'>?Ahmad Bradshaw (http://www.facebook.com/AhmadBradshaw44) said he had bone marrow taken from his hip and injected into his foot at the end of February to build new bone. He will not run for 3 months. He hopes to be ready by end of June. He wants to be an everyday participant in Training Camp this season, unlike last season.</SPAN></H6>



</P>


He also wants to carry the load with a 75/25 split.
</P>


</P>


I've come to grips with the fact that Bradshaw will never be healthy. 75/25 is a pipedream.
Unless for some reason TC REALLY doesn't trust any of the other backs. But that would be a death sentance to AB. He would clearly miss time anyway..so....</P>

dezzzR
04-02-2012, 02:02 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div></h6>
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?Ahmad Bradshaw (http://www.facebook.com/AhmadBradshaw44) said he had bone marrow taken from his hip and injected into his foot at the end of February to build new bone. He will not run for 3 months. He hopes to be ready by end of June. He wants to be an everyday participant in Training Camp this season, unlike last season.</span></h6>



</p>


He also wants to carry the load with a 75/25 split.
</p>


</p>


I've come to grips with the fact that Bradshaw will never be healthy. 75/25 is a pipedream.
Unless for some reason TC REALLY doesn't trust any of the other backs. But that would be a death sentance to AB. He would clearly miss time anyway..so....</p>His ankles and feet are so frail. I dont think that will happen either. I would love it but its not realistic. I read hes getting bone marrow from his hip injected into his ankle.

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 02:17 PM
<H6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<DIV class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft='{"type":2}'>In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</DIV></H6>
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":1}'><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft='{"type":3}'>?Ahmad Bradshaw (http://www.facebook.com/AhmadBradshaw44) said he had bone marrow taken from his hip and injected into his foot at the end of February to build new bone. He will not run for 3 months. He hopes to be ready by end of June. He wants to be an everyday participant in Training Camp this season, unlike last season.</SPAN></H6>



</P>


He also wants to carry the load with a 75/25 split.
</P>


</P>


I've come to grips with the fact that Bradshaw will never be healthy. 75/25 is a pipedream.
Unless for some reason TC REALLY doesn't trust any of the other backs. But that would be a death sentance to AB. He would clearly miss time anyway..so....</P>


His ankles and feet are so frail. I dont think that will happen either. I would love it but its not realistic. I read hes getting bone marrow from his hip injected into his ankle.
</P>


I had screws in my ankle once.
when I was in high school, I got injured in basketball all the time. I was bigger than most people height wise, but each team (including ours) always had 1 taller. so i was always a power forward. But I got really good at throwing my weight around, but as a result people would get fairly pissed off at me. I'd jump up for rebounds, and theyd shove me while in the air....
I sprained my ankle severely 4 times in high school basketball. Once so badly that it had to be aircasted. my senior year they thought it was broken because of the shape it was in the day of the fall. but as it turned out, the bones had become so far apart from each other, that scar tissue (or something)was forming in pretty large amounts. not even cartilage...lol. So they operated, and I had 2 screws in my ankle for about 5 months. it was terrible at first, like, shooting pains, and that limb being asleep feeling except a painful version, all up to my knee....but after that it was good.
I'm very nervous about hurting it again, so i try not to do anythign stupid or outside my comfort zone anymore.</P>

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 02:27 PM
<H6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<DIV class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft='{"type":2}'>In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</DIV></H6>
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":1}'><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft='{"type":3}'>?Ahmad Bradshaw (http://www.facebook.com/AhmadBradshaw44) said he had bone marrow taken from his hip and injected into his foot at the end of February to build new bone. He will not run for 3 months. He hopes to be ready by end of June. He wants to be an everyday participant in Training Camp this season, unlike last season.</SPAN></H6>



</P>


He also wants to carry the load with a 75/25 split.
</P>


</P>


I've come to grips with the fact that Bradshaw will never be healthy. 75/25 is a pipedream.
Unless for some reason TC REALLY doesn't trust any of the other backs. But that would be a death sentance to AB. He would clearly miss time anyway..so....</P>


His ankles and feet are so frail. I dont think that will happen either. I would love it but its not realistic. I read hes getting bone marrow from his hip injected into his ankle.
</P>


I had screws in my ankle once.
when I was in high school, I got injured in basketball all the time. I was bigger than most people height wise, but each team (including ours) always had 1 taller. so i was always a power forward. But I got really good at throwing my weight around, but as a result people would get fairly pissed off at me. I'd jump up for rebounds, and theyd shove me while in the air....
I sprained my ankle severely 4 times in high school basketball. Once so badly that it had to be aircasted. my senior year they thought it was broken because of the shape it was in the day of the fall. but as it turned out, the bones had become so far apart from each other, that scar tissue (or something)*was forming in pretty large amounts. not even cartilage...lol. So they operated, and I had 2 screws in my ankle for about 5 months. it was terrible at first, like, shooting pains, and that limb being asleep feeling except a painful version, all up to my knee....but after that it was good.
I'm very nervous about hurting it again, so i try not to do anythign stupid or outside my comfort zone anymore.</P>hence, leisure diving into water.

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 02:37 PM
hence, leisure diving into water.</P>


ahh yes, the leisure is relaxing.
Water doesnt hurt as much as rolling your ankle on solid ground =P</P>

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 02:55 PM
hence, leisure diving into water.</P>


ahh yes, the leisure is relaxing.
Water doesnt hurt as much as rolling your ankle on solid ground =P</P>Exactly. Ab will never be 100%. Geesh toward the end of last season, he was practicing on Friday's only(off all week)and then starting games. I wonder if he took the needle before those games too?

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 03:16 PM
I had a dream Friday night that I was on the Jersey shore on vacation with the family. Aaron Ross was our guest. We were just shooting the **** in the living room one afternoon.

I have become so conditioned to this team and the players, that it's just so commonplace when I meet them now. There's no longer that star struck shock like I had when I was a kid. I kinda miss that.

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 03:45 PM
I had a dream Friday night that I was on the Jersey shore on vacation with the family. Aaron Ross was our guest. We were just shooting the **** in the living room one afternoon. I have become so conditioned to this team and the players, that it's just so commonplace when I meet them now. There's no longer that star struck shock like I had when I was a kid. I kinda miss that.</P>


lol. nice
I dont know how I'd react really. I havnt met any of my favorite players or anything really. I'd like to think that I'd be pretty levelheaded, since it's in my nature to give zero ****s about most people lmao.</P>

lttaylor56
04-02-2012, 04:31 PM
I had a dream Friday night that I was on the Jersey shore on vacation with the family. Aaron Ross was our guest. We were just shooting the **** in the living room one afternoon. I have become so conditioned to this team and the players, that it's just so commonplace when I meet them now. There's no longer that star struck shock like I had when I was a kid. I kinda miss that.</P>


lol. nice
I dont know how I'd react really. I havnt met any of my favorite players or anything really. I'd like to think that I'd be pretty levelheaded, since it's in my nature to give zero ****s about most people lmao.</P>LOL-We shoulda met up at the mid hudson civic center show yesterday. I didn't go.

JPizzack
04-02-2012, 04:37 PM
I had a dream Friday night that I was on the Jersey shore on vacation with the family. Aaron Ross was our guest. We were just shooting the **** in the living room one afternoon. I have become so conditioned to this team and the players, that it's just so commonplace when I meet them now. There's no longer that star struck shock like I had when I was a kid. I kinda miss that.</P>


lol. nice
I dont know how I'd react really. I havnt met any of my favorite players or anything really. I'd like to think that I'd be pretty levelheaded, since it's in my nature to give zero ****s about most people lmao.</P>


LOL-We shoulda met up at the mid hudson civic center show yesterday. I didn't go.</P>


yeaaaaa, but i didnt wanna pay for any of that nonsense. Sure it would be cool to have signed memorabilia, but....I just like how one day i can tell my grandkids about the games i went to, and getting drunk at tailgates, and my buddy who gave me a ticket to the Greenbay game if i drove him lmao.
Although I will admit, i'm still really upset that I missed meeting up with Matt and Blondie cuz i showed upa few mins late to the Nicks signing. i would love photos with players, that would be really cool. </P>

Morehead State
04-02-2012, 10:11 PM
If I get banned I just want to say...Poor "Die-Hard"......... It wasn't anything personal.

byron
04-02-2012, 10:35 PM
If I get banned I just want to say...Poor "Die-Hard"......... It wasn't anything personal. I be with yaon this one nothing against DH buthe's doesn't seem to be a people person....ah well....

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 12:21 AM
<h1><a href="http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/02/eli-manning-super-bowl-miami-beach/" rel="bookmark">

<span class="hf1">Eli Manning </span>

<span class="hf2-case">Life After Super Bowl Is a Beach!</span>



</a></h1>



http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/04/02/0402-eli-manning-family-inf-jpg-2.jpg
With all the news about his big brother Peyton's trade to the Broncos and that other New York NFL team QB (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/25/tim-tebow-new-york-wicked-photo/), Eli Manning
continued to adjust to life after winning the Super Bowl by basking in
the sun with his wife and daughter on Miami Beach this weekend.

The 31-year-old has it made in the shade too.

JPizzack
04-03-2012, 09:35 AM
If I get banned I just want to say...Poor "Die-Hard"......... It wasn't anything personal.</P>


lol what did you do?</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 10:18 AM
I had a dream Friday night that I was on the Jersey shore on vacation with the family. Aaron Ross was our guest. We were just shooting the **** in the living room one afternoon. I have become so conditioned to this team and the players, that it's just so commonplace when I meet them now. There's no longer that star struck shock like I had when I was a kid. I kinda miss that.</P>


lol. nice
I dont know how I'd react really. I havnt met any of my favorite players or anything really. I'd like to think that I'd be pretty levelheaded, since it's in my nature to give zero ****s about most people lmao.</P>


LOL-We shoulda met up at the mid hudson civic center show yesterday. I didn't go.</P>


yeaaaaa, but i didnt wanna pay for any of that nonsense. Sure it would be cool to have signed memorabilia, but....I just like how one day i can tell my grandkids about the games i went to, and getting drunk at tailgates, and my buddy who gave me a ticket to the Greenbay game if i drove him lmao.
Although I will admit, i'm still really upset that I missed meeting up with Matt and Blondie cuz i showed upa* few mins late to the Nicks signing. i would love photos with players, that would be really cool. </P>You can get photo's with the players each time if you choose. GB Game(lol) It was a great one and it set the stage for our season ending. It's far to soon after the SB for signings, it's absolute mayhem at those things, I'm going to wait things to die down a little and then try to find Eli when he returns North.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 10:27 AM
<h1><a href="http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/02/eli-manning-super-bowl-miami-beach/" rel="bookmark">

<span class="hf1">Eli Manning </span>

<span class="hf2-case">Life After Super Bowl Is a Beach!</span>



</a></h1>



http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/04/02/0402-eli-manning-family-inf-jpg-2.jpg
With all the news about his big brother Peyton's trade to the Broncos and that other New York NFL team QB (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/25/tim-tebow-new-york-wicked-photo/),* Eli Manning
continued to adjust to life after winning the Super Bowl by basking in
the sun with his wife and daughter on Miami Beach this weekend.

The 31-year-old has it made in the shade too.I hope the King had a great time with his family. So Eli and fam travel with no bodyguards?(or they are just not pictured?) That is very cool!

JPizzack
04-03-2012, 10:34 AM
I still have to get a superbowl shirt lol. i been lazy!!</P>

JPizzack
04-03-2012, 10:41 AM
i LOVE this shirt though....</P>


http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_800000%2fff_80077 2_xl.jpg&amp;w=400</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 10:43 AM
i LOVE this shirt though....</P>


http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=%2fproductImages%2f_800000%2fff_80077 2_xl.jpg&w=400</P>You have time, prices should be under 50% by now. I went way overboard on 2011 game t-shirts, wildcard, nfc champs , superbowl t's this year. I'm having a hard time wearing them all. Some of the nike shirts are nice. Where is the nike jersey, I thought today was the day?

JPizzack
04-03-2012, 10:46 AM
You have time, prices should be under 50% by now. I went way overboard on 2011 game t-shirts, wildcard, nfc champs , superbowl t's this year. I'm having a hard time wearing them all. Some of the nike shirts are nice. Where is the nike jersey, I thought today was the day?</P>


Yea, should i just go to the store and look? most websites still have the shirts full price still ugh....</P>


yea jerseys are supposed to be released today, but they didnt say WHEN yet.
i'm gonna scope out NFL shop, cuz i assume that'd be the first place to get the info.</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 10:47 AM
I see what MH was talking about in the "new boards" thread. MH rose against the mods, one mod in particular. Now he's got members referring to the mod as "Mr. Hard" lmao.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 10:49 AM
You have time, prices should be under 50% by now. I went way overboard on 2011 game t-shirts, wildcard, nfc champs , superbowl t's this year. I'm having a hard time wearing them all. Some of the nike shirts are nice. Where is the nike jersey, I thought today was the day?</P>


Yea, should i just go to the store and look? most websites still have the shirts full price still ugh....</P>


yea jerseys are supposed to be released today, but they didnt say WHEN yet.
i'm gonna scope out NFL shop, cuz i assume that'd be the first place to get the info.</P>Good idea on the jersey's. I know the web sites are still very high prices on sb gear. Try modell's, my buddy called me beginning of March and said ALL sb gear was 50% off.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 10:58 AM
<h1><a href="http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/02/eli-manning-super-bowl-miami-beach/" rel="bookmark">

<span class="hf1">Eli Manning </span>

<span class="hf2-case">Life After Super Bowl Is a Beach!</span>



</a></h1>



http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/04/02/0402-eli-manning-family-inf-jpg-2.jpg
With all the news about his big brother Peyton's trade to the Broncos and that other New York NFL team QB (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/25/tim-tebow-new-york-wicked-photo/), Eli Manning
continued to adjust to life after winning the Super Bowl by basking in
the sun with his wife and daughter on Miami Beach this weekend.

The 31-year-old has it made in the shade too.lol hes more pale than me. His wife always looks like shes nagging him.

JPizzack
04-03-2012, 11:01 AM
His wife always looks like shes nagging him.
</P>


I'd let Abby Manning nag the **** out of me......errr.....what? yea you get the point...</P>

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 11:07 AM
So uh, not to bring this crap up again but this is interesting....

Anyone hear about the fact that the 911 call by Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin situation was HEAVILY edited by NBC to make it sound more racist?

They cut it up to make him say, "This guy looks like he's up to no good, he looks black"

what really happened was a somewhat more in depth description, Zimmerman mentions that there have been many break in's in his town recently and this kid was walking around outside in the rain acting as though he was on drugs, he reports this to the 911 operator...who then asks if the kid is white/black or Hispanic...to which he answers he looks black.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/02/NBC-ABC-Shame-Themselves

The NEWS...isn't NEWS anymore...it's entertainment.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:10 AM
His wife always looks like shes nagging him.
</P>


I'd let Abby Manning nag the **** out of me......errr.....what? yea you get the point...</P>Abby is beautiful, no doubt. They have more money than they will ever know what to do with. She works and is designing her own fashion line. Is it possible that she actually takes care of her own child without a nanny? Eli is so down to earth, it would not surprise me.