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JPizzack
04-03-2012, 10:12 AM
So uh, not to bring this crap up again but this is interesting....

Anyone hear about the fact that the 911 call by Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin situation was HEAVILY edited by NBC to make it sound more racist?

They cut it up to make him say, "This guy looks like he's up to no good, he looks black"

what really happened was a somewhat more in depth description, Zimmerman mentions that there have been many break in's in his town recently and this kid was walking around outside in the rain acting as though he was on drugs, he reports this to the 911 operator...who then asks if the kid is white/black or Hispanic...to which he answers he looks black.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/02/NBC-ABC-Shame-Themselves

The NEWS...isn't NEWS anymore...it's entertainment.
</P>


kinda goes back to how they changed the photgraphs of both people to skew the public's reaction.</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 10:23 AM
So uh, not to bring this crap up again but this is interesting....

Anyone hear about the fact that the 911 call by Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin situation was HEAVILY edited by NBC to make it sound more racist?

They cut it up to make him say, "This guy looks like he's up to no good, he looks black"

what really happened was a somewhat more in depth description, Zimmerman mentions that there have been many break in's in his town recently and this kid was walking around outside in the rain acting as though he was on drugs, he reports this to the 911 operator...who then asks if the kid is white/black or Hispanic...to which he answers he looks black.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/02/NBC-ABC-Shame-Themselves

The NEWS...isn't NEWS anymore...it's entertainment.
</P>


kinda goes back to how they changed the photgraphs of both people to skew the public's reaction.</P>I heard about this yesterday, the more info like this that is released the worse it is.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 10:26 AM
So uh, not to bring this crap up again but this is interesting....

Anyone hear about the fact that the 911 call by Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin situation was <u>HEAVILY edited by NBC</u> to make it sound more racist?

They cut it up to make him say, "This guy looks like he's up to no good, he looks black"

what really happened was a somewhat more in depth description, Zimmerman mentions that there have been many break in's in his town recently and this kid was walking around outside in the rain acting as though he was on drugs, he reports this to the 911 operator...who then asks if the kid is white/black or Hispanic...to which he answers he looks black.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/02/NBC-ABC-Shame-Themselves

The NEWS...isn't NEWS anymore...it's entertainment.
What idiots. No one at the network thought, "hey, we shouldnt do that because maybe someone like cnn might release the whole unedited version." lol
No wonder thats the least watched news station.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 10:33 AM
So uh, not to bring this crap up again but this is interesting....

Anyone hear about the fact that the 911 call by Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin situation was HEAVILY edited by NBC to make it sound more racist?

They cut it up to make him say, "This guy looks like he's up to no good, he looks black"

what really happened was a somewhat more in depth description, Zimmerman mentions that there have been many break in's in his town recently and this kid was walking around outside in the rain acting as though he was on drugs, he reports this to the 911 operator...who then asks if the kid is white/black or Hispanic...to which he answers he looks black.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/02/NBC-ABC-Shame-Themselves

The NEWS...isn't NEWS anymore...it's entertainment.
UGH, you're really gonna bring this up again????

Whats your point, to show us that you shouldnt get your news from the 'Today Show'??

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 10:50 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 10:52 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{"type":2}">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{"type":3}">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 10:59 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap. Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:03 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season.* When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.* Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
I agree on the hat's--stock sucks! I'm hoping there's a better selection come August.

I just saw a crazy revamped seahawks helmet and heard that seahawks colors are changing, but that's an individual team thing , right?

Are the jerseys the only thing sched. to change for NYG, or do we not have that info yet?

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 11:08 AM
UGH, you're really gonna bring this up again????

Whats your point, to show us that you shouldnt get your news from the 'Today Show'??


My point Kase, is that people like yourself need to wait a while before getting all worked up over something you heard on any of the main stream media channels ABC/Fox/NBC...yes, you are/were all worked up about this...it could turn out that Zimmerman was completely justified in this...we DON'T know.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 11:15 AM
UGH, you're really gonna bring this up again????

Whats your point, to show us that you shouldnt get your news from the 'Today Show'??


My point Kase, is that people like yourself need to wait a while before getting all worked up over something you heard on any of the main stream media channels ABC/Fox/NBC...yes, you are all worked up about this...it could turn out that Zimmerman was completely justified in this...we DON'T know.


OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police, AND there has been no action taken

If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:17 AM
Message from Nike regarding - New Nike Uniforms....Swoooosh-We're not going to show you **** at 11am.

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:19 AM
http://p.twimg.com/ApkB-i7CIAEq-h9.jpg

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:20 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:22 AM
UGH, you're really gonna bring this up again????

Whats your point, to show us that you shouldnt get your news from the 'Today Show'??


My point Kase, is that people like yourself need to wait a while before getting all worked up over something you heard on any of the main stream media channels ABC/Fox/NBC...yes, you are all worked up about this...it could turn out that Zimmerman was completely justified in this...we DON'T know.


OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police

If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??
</P>


Kase...Every witness who either saw or heard has said that there WAS a struggle. The only question was who was the aggresser and was Zimmerman in a position where he was acting in self defense.</P>


I personally believe he overreacted at best or committed murder at worst, but the facts are still not known. At least not to the public.</P>


It also seems strange to me that even after all the uproar and changes in the command structure, there still isn't an arrest. I have no knowledge of course but it seems there might be claims made by witnesses that may support Zimmerman's position.</P>

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:22 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/540488_161684887287517_100003380217607_213224_4867 94169_n.jpg

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 11:23 AM
OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

what you think are facts may very well turn out to be lies...THATS MY ****ING POINT...the news regularly claims things are facts when they are not nowadays...the 10 o clock news might as well be TMZ....you don't seem to get that.


How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police

This is what you believe happened from what you heard off of what I'm gonna call TMZ....these are not facts....you may as well have picked up the enquirer and told me that "Bat Baby" is real...wait for the ****ing trial or police report, because the things you hear on the news are lies...as proven by the fact that they totally edited and cut up the 911 call purposefully to make Zimmerman look/sound racist, because that makes a better story.


If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??

or there is something wrong with the MEDIA....making you think Casey Anthony is guilty before her trial, making you think Zimmerman is guilty before his trial...

you are being brainwashed over and over again by a media that no longer reports news, but instead makes up fanciful stories so that they can sell more advertising time.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:23 AM
http://p.twimg.com/ApkB-i7CIAEq-h9.jpgWhat are those?

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:24 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season.* When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u>* Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u>** in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? Cool

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:25 AM
What are those?
The new gloves. They are pretty much awesome. I posted a pic a while back of the Giants ones but those are every teams.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:26 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/540488_161684887287517_100003380217607_213224_4867 94169_n.jpgThat Sweatshirt is about 2 sizes too smal for that dude. The arms are tapered to fit a dancer's physique, not a football players, wtf?

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 11:27 AM
UGH, you're really gonna bring this up again????

Whats your point, to show us that you shouldnt get your news from the 'Today Show'??


My point Kase, is that people like yourself need to wait a while before getting all worked up over something you heard on any of the main stream media channels ABC/Fox/NBC...yes, you are all worked up about this...it could turn out that Zimmerman was completely justified in this...we DON'T know.


OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police

If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??
</p>


Kase...Every witness who either saw or heard has said that there WAS a struggle. The only question was who was the aggresser and was Zimmerman in a position where he was acting in self defense.</p>


I personally believe he overreacted at best or committed murder at worst, but the facts are still not known. At least not to the public.</p>


It also seems strange to me that even after all the uproar and changes in the command structure, there still isn't an arrest. I have no knowledge of course but it seems there might be claims made by witnesses that may support Zimmerman's position.</p>The reports I read have shown that there was no signs of struggle on either Trayvons or Zimmermans part, no cuts, scratches, bruises, etc.

The question was who was the agressor, was it the unarmed teenager or the overzealous community member who was much larger than Martin?? Do you really think the 17yr old who was significantly smaller than Zimmerman was actually the agressor??? REALLY?!?!?!

The idea that there has been no arrest when all the evidence points to wrongful murder is what all the uproar is over, and dont kid yourself Florida has one of the WORST and most 1 sided justice systems in the USA

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:28 AM
http://p.twimg.com/ApkB-i7CIAEq-h9.jpgThe browns need a logo. Or use the bulldog or whatever.

JPizzack
04-03-2012, 11:28 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!


<H6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<DIV class="actorDescription actorName" type?:2}?="" data-ft="{">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</DIV></H6>
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft="{" type?:1}?=""><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft="{" type?:3}?="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </SPAN></H6>



I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <U>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</U> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <U>GIANTS</U> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
</P>


really? cuz i have the classic blue ny reebok one, and it's the best hat ever! I also have one of the draft day hats. i think it's the 09 one? i dont wear it often, but it's nice.
Both are FlexFit hats.</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:30 AM
What are those?
The new gloves. They are pretty much awesome. I posted a pic a while back of the Giants ones but those are every teams.

They are pretty decent.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:31 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:32 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!


<H6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<DIV class="actorDescription actorName" type?:2}?="" data-ft="{">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</DIV></H6>
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft="{" type?:1}?=""><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft="{" type?:3}?="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </SPAN></H6>



I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season.* When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <U>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</U>* Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <U>GIANTS</U>** in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
</P>


really? cuz i have the classic blue ny reebok one, and it's the best hat ever! I also have one of the draft day hats. i think it's the 09 one? i dont wear it often, but it's nice.
Both are FlexFit hats.</P>My most recent favorites are : Black Hat w white NY, SB 25 remembered and the classic blue with white NY, outlined with red embroidery around the NY.

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:33 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:33 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season.* When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u>* Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u>** in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]

Makes you a Gints fan before birth. lol

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:34 AM
UGH, you're really gonna bring this up again????

Whats your point, to show us that you shouldnt get your news from the 'Today Show'??


My point Kase, is that people like yourself need to wait a while before getting all worked up over something you heard on any of the main stream media channels ABC/Fox/NBC...yes, you are all worked up about this...it could turn out that Zimmerman was completely justified in this...we DON'T know.


OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police

If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??
</P>


Kase...Every witness who either saw or heard has said that there WAS a struggle. The only question was who was the aggresser and was Zimmerman in a position where he was acting in self defense.</P>


I personally believe he overreacted at best or committed murder at worst, but the facts are still not known. At least not to the public.</P>


It also seems strange to me that even after all the uproar and changes in the command structure, there still isn't an arrest. I have no knowledge of course but it seems there might be claims made by witnesses that may support Zimmerman's position.</P>


The reports I read have shown that there was no signs of struggle on either Trayvons or Zimmermans part, no cuts, scratches, bruises, etc.

The question was who was the agressor, was it the unarmed teenager or the overzealous community member who was much larger than Martin?? Do you really think the 17yr old who was significantly smaller than Zimmerman was actually the agressor??? REALLY?!?!?!

The idea that there has been no arrest when all the evidence points to wrongful murder is what all the uproar is over, and dont kid yourself Florida has one of the WORST and most 1 sided justice systems in the USA
</P>


What reports? The media reports? You friggin posted on FB that the media has acted irresponsibly.</P>


I don't get you on this. Since it seems to be your claim that you can't trust the media to give us the correct information, why are you now trusting some media reports (and not others) for your information?</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 11:34 AM
OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

what you think are facts may very well turn out to be lies...THATS MY ****ING POINT...the news regularly claims things are facts when they are not nowadays...the 10 o clock news might as well be TMZ....you don't seem to get that.


How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police

This is what you believe happened from what you heard off of what I'm gonna call TMZ....these are not facts....you may as well have picked up the enquirer and told me that "Bat Baby" is real...wait for the ****ing trial or police report, because the things you hear on the news are lies...as proven by the fact that they totally edited and cut up the 911 call purposefully to make Zimmerman look/sound racist, because that makes a better story.


If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??

or there is something wrong with the MEDIA....making you think Casey Anthony is guilty before her trial, making you think Zimmerman is guilty before his trial...

you are being brainwashed over and over again by a media that no longer reports news, but instead makes up fanciful stories so that they can sell more advertising time.
OK, and what YOU think are 'facts' could turn out as lies too, hell on that line of thought we may all find out that water isnt wet and the sky isnt blue

TMZ, OK I see we're getting condescending and pompous again. News sources such as CNN, Huffington Post, Boston Herald, Daily News and Yahoo are dis-credible sources to you, I forgot it wasnt on CSPAN so you werent allowed to form an original opinion... Silly me

Yes the 911 call was edited to make it look like Zimmerman said those 2 things at once but he didnt, but since that wasnt credible now EVERYTHING out there isnt credible??

OK all you keep saying is that your source is credible and mine isnt, in reality all that shows is that you're closed minded and cannont accept the fact that someone can formulate opinions different than yours without being a 'sheep' or 'brainwashed'... Its highly offensive, comical, and disgustingly condescending of you, but keep going, humor me

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:34 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!


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I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <U>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</U> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <U>GIANTS</U> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
</P>


You couldn't resist Lando...I love it!!!</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:35 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

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I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season.* When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u>* Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u>** in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
hhahahahaha, that's going to change this year, right Dezz?

Dezz--I know transportation was difficult for you last year. If you make it over the bridge, Pizz and I will pick you up and take you to the Stadium.

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 11:35 AM
The reports I read have shown that there was no signs of struggle on either Trayvons or Zimmermans part, no cuts, scratches, bruises, etc.

And what I'm trying to do is show you why those reports can not be trusted....when they go so far as to edit a 9-1-1 call to make him look racist, who knows if they are not editing the reports to make it seem like there was no struggle?


The question was who was the agressor, was it the unarmed teenager or the overzealous community member who was much larger than Martin?? Do you really think the 17yr old who was significantly smaller than Zimmerman was actually the agressor??? REALLY?!?!?!

Zimmerman (before even leaving his car) on the unedited 9-1-1 call said he looked like he was on drugs, my point is I'm not going to jump to conclusions based on nothing about who was or wasn't the aggressor when a mans life is on the line.

(you don't think someone hoped up on PCP or something like that would attack a guy bigger then him with a gun...I totally believe that could happen and we don't know that wasn't the case)


The idea that there has been no arrest when all the evidence points to wrongful murder is what all the uproar is over, and dont kid yourself Florida has one of the WORST and most 1 sided justice systems in the USA


The idea that there has been no arrest to ME points to a case that is FAR more complicated then what the perception is.

JPizzack
04-03-2012, 11:35 AM
His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
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<FONT size=6>LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL</FONT></P>

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:36 AM
For my 24,000th post I would like to give it up to the man....THE BLACK MAMBA

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t219/zoomkobe/Kobe.jpg

I would also like to say...

<font color="#006400" size="6">**** THE EAGLES!!!</font>

and lastly, I love all you motha ****as. Sucks I can't be on the boards anymore but I'm excited for October to roll around so we can do it all again. Plus my wife is coming this time so that is awesome to. I am making really good money at the new job so there is no doubt I'll be there with blue bells on.

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:37 AM
His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
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Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:37 AM
OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

what you think are facts may very well turn out to be lies...THATS MY ****ING POINT...the news regularly claims things are facts when they are not nowadays...the 10 o clock news might as well be TMZ....you don't seem to get that.


How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police

This is what you believe happened from what you heard off of what I'm gonna call TMZ....these are not facts....you may as well have picked up the enquirer and told me that "Bat Baby" is real...wait for the ****ing trial or police report, because the things you hear on the news are lies...as proven by the fact that they totally edited and cut up the 911 call purposefully to make Zimmerman look/sound racist, because that makes a better story.


If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??

or there is something wrong with the MEDIA....making you think Casey Anthony is guilty before her trial, making you think Zimmerman is guilty before his trial...

you are being brainwashed over and over again by a media that no longer reports news, but instead makes up fanciful stories so that they can sell more advertising time.
OK, and what YOU think are 'facts' could turn out as lies too, hell on that line of thought we may all find out that water isnt wet and the sky isnt blue

TMZ, OK I see we're getting condescending and pompous again. News sources such as CNN, Huffington Post, Boston Herald, Daily News and Yahoo are dis-credible sources to you, I forgot it wasnt on CSPAN so you werent allowed to form an original opinion... Silly me

Yes the 911 call was edited to make it look like Zimmerman said those 2 things at once but he didnt, but since that wasnt credible now EVERYTHING out there isnt credible??

OK all you keep saying is that your source is credible and mine isnt, in reality all that shows is that you're closed minded and cannont accept the fact that someone can formulate opinions different than yours without being a 'sheep' or 'brainwashed'... Its highly offensive, comical, and disgustingly condescending of you, but keep going, humor me
</P>


Well Kase there is one report of a witness that saw the man in red (that would be Zimmerman) on the bottom of the scuffle and yelling for help. I have no idea if thats what happened or not, but we simply don't know what happened yet.</P>


Only the cops have all the witness accounts. Maybe the guy hunted him down and shot him in cold blood, but right now none of us can possibly know.</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:38 AM
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The 32 football jerseys that Nike designed for the NFL were under wraps on Monday at the NFL Shop at Draft that opened in Manhattan. The jerseys will be unveiled this morning, but won't be available for purchase until the day of the draft, April 26.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:38 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!


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I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <U>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</U> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <U>GIANTS</U> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
hhahahahaha, that's going to change this year, right Dezz? Dezz--I know transportation was difficult for you last year. If you make it over the bridge, Pizz and I will pick you up and take you to the Stadium.</P>


Stop being so nice.</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 11:38 AM
UGH, you're really gonna bring this up again????

Whats your point, to show us that you shouldnt get your news from the 'Today Show'??


My point Kase, is that people like yourself need to wait a while before getting all worked up over something you heard on any of the main stream media channels ABC/Fox/NBC...yes, you are all worked up about this...it could turn out that Zimmerman was completely justified in this...we DON'T know.


OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police

If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??
</p>


Kase...Every witness who either saw or heard has said that there WAS a struggle. The only question was who was the aggresser and was Zimmerman in a position where he was acting in self defense.</p>


I personally believe he overreacted at best or committed murder at worst, but the facts are still not known. At least not to the public.</p>


It also seems strange to me that even after all the uproar and changes in the command structure, there still isn't an arrest. I have no knowledge of course but it seems there might be claims made by witnesses that may support Zimmerman's position.</p>


The reports I read have shown that there was no signs of struggle on either Trayvons or Zimmermans part, no cuts, scratches, bruises, etc.

The question was who was the agressor, was it the unarmed teenager or the overzealous community member who was much larger than Martin?? Do you really think the 17yr old who was significantly smaller than Zimmerman was actually the agressor??? REALLY?!?!?!

The idea that there has been no arrest when all the evidence points to wrongful murder is what all the uproar is over, and dont kid yourself Florida has one of the WORST and most 1 sided justice systems in the USA
</p>


What reports? The media reports? You friggin posted on FB that the media has acted irresponsibly.</p>


I don't get you on this. Since it seems to be your claim that you can't trust the media to give us the correct information, why are you now trusting some media reports (and not others) for your information?</p>That was to show that Im not just a blind follower, but to Daven I am

Yes the media has made mistakes and I can admit it, but that doesnt change the fact at how I feel about the case and all of the details that have been proven right

So now because a few media outlets make mistakes and take the short cut you cant trust ANY of them?? In that case just cancel your newspaper subscription and stop watching ANY kind of news, CNN, Fox News, NPR, Limbaugh, whatever

You're supposed to take the stories from the media and create your own stance and thats what I do, just because conservative AND liberal outlets have been shown to make changes doesnt mean you cant still read/listen with a grain of salt

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:38 AM
You couldn't resist Lando...I love it!!!
Fortunately not. lol

I hope things are going well for you sir and your daughter as well. I'm sure your hard at work studying fantasy football and projecting Peyton Manning in the first round to Matt.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:39 AM
For my 24,000th post I would like to give it up to the man....THE BLACK MAMBA

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t219/zoomkobe/Kobe.jpg

I would also like to say...

<font color="#006400" size="6">**** THE EAGLES!!!</font>

and lastly, I love all you motha ****as. Sucks I can't be on the boards anymore but I'm excited for October to roll around so we can do it all again. Plus my wife is coming this time so that is awesome to. I am making really good money at the new job so there is no doubt I'll be there with blue bells on.
Awesome!

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:40 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!


<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type?:2}?="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6>
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type?:1}?=""><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type?:3}?="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>



I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
hhahahahaha, that's going to change this year, right Dezz? Dezz--I know transportation was difficult for you last year. If you make it over the bridge, Pizz and I will pick you up and take you to the Stadium.</p>


Stop being so nice.</p>
I told LT to give up the second he came on the boards but he still persists. Not sure why.

You can get a good look at a butcher by sticking your head up his *** but wouldn't you rather take the cows word for it.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:40 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!


<H6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<DIV class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type?:2}?="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</DIV></H6>
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft="{" type?:1}?=""><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft="{" type?:3}?="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </SPAN></H6>



I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season.* When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <U>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</U>* Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <U>GIANTS</U>** in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
hhahahahaha, that's going to change this year, right Dezz? Dezz--I know transportation was difficult for you last year. If you make it over the bridge, Pizz and I will pick you up and take you to the Stadium.</P>


Stop being so nice.</P>Sorry MH, it's my nature.

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:41 AM
SEAHAWKS

http://p.twimg.com/ApkTlArCEAAtrUE.jpg

GROOOOSSSSSSSSS

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 11:42 AM
OK, and what YOU think are 'facts' could turn out as lies too, hell on that line of thought we may all find out that water isnt wet and the sky isnt blue

that's the difference Kase I don't think I know anything about this right now, I've heard all the stories from all the different sources....but I don't believe ANY of them are 100% factual...that's why I'm not making a decision..


TMZ, OK I see we're getting condescending and pompous again. News sources such as CNN, Huffington Post, Boston Herald, Daily News and Yahoo are dis-credible sources to you, I forgot it wasnt on CSPAN so you werent allowed to form an original opinion... Silly me

Yes I do not consider CNN, Huffington Post, Boston Herald, Daily News and Yahoo credible sources, because they have all (especially the Huffington Post) have been known to opinionate stories.

About CSPAN, you still clearly do not understand what CSPAN is, it's NOT a news source, it literally just broadcasts Congress...while it's in session...there is nobody to relay the information (and therefore editorialize it) CSPAN is the Congress floor...straight into my ears...hence completely unbiased...that's why I'm saying politically it's the only unbiased source...because it's simple the senators/congressmen discussion on the floor.


OK all you keep saying is that your source is credible and mine isnt

NO I'm saying ALL sources are not credible anymore, I'm saying the media as a WHOLE can not be trusted anymore....unless it's an unedited police report, a court decision, or it's coming from the horses mouth it has to be questioned....


in reality all that shows is that you're closed minded and cannont accept the fact that someone can formulate opinions different than yours without being a 'sheep' or 'brainwashed'... Its highly offensive, comical, and disgustingly condescending of you, but keep going, humor me


No what I'm angry about Kase, is that people are forming opinions based upon lies, I'm simply NOT forming an opinion...and I don't think you should either..until we have the REAL facts (aka after or at least during the trial)

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:44 AM
UGH, you're really gonna bring this up again????

Whats your point, to show us that you shouldnt get your news from the 'Today Show'??


My point Kase, is that people like yourself need to wait a while before getting all worked up over something you heard on any of the main stream media channels ABC/Fox/NBC...yes, you are all worked up about this...it could turn out that Zimmerman was completely justified in this...we DON'T know.


OK #1 we just started this up and you're already starting to get a little condescending. And we already spoke about this, I formed my opinion on what has been brought to light as FACTS and that has got me all worked up, not because its the 'cool' thing or because any other ridiculous reason you think

How could Zimmerman be justified!?!?! According to multiple reports there was no signs of a struggle, Zimmerman outweighed Martin by over 50lbs, was more than 10years older, and stalked and shot an unarmed teenage who was simply walking home from the store in the rain AFTER being told to stay put by the police

If he's proven innocent, then there is something wrong with the Florida justice system, Oh wait...... Casey Anthony anybody??
</p>


Kase...Every witness who either saw or heard has said that there WAS a struggle. The only question was who was the aggresser and was Zimmerman in a position where he was acting in self defense.</p>


I personally believe he overreacted at best or committed murder at worst, but the facts are still not known. At least not to the public.</p>


It also seems strange to me that even after all the uproar and changes in the command structure, there still isn't an arrest. I have no knowledge of course but it seems there might be claims made by witnesses that may support Zimmerman's position.</p>


The reports I read have shown that there was no signs of struggle on either Trayvons or Zimmermans part, no cuts, scratches, bruises, etc.

The question was who was the agressor, was it the unarmed teenager or the overzealous community member who was much larger than Martin?? Do you really think the 17yr old who was significantly smaller than Zimmerman was actually the agressor??? REALLY?!?!?!

The idea that there has been no arrest when all the evidence points to wrongful murder is what all the uproar is over, and dont kid yourself Florida has one of the WORST and most 1 sided justice systems in the USA
</p>


What reports? The media reports? You friggin posted on FB that the media has acted irresponsibly.</p>


I don't get you on this. Since it seems to be your claim that you can't trust the media to give us the correct information, why are you now trusting some media reports (and not others) for your information?</p>And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.

JPizzack
04-03-2012, 11:45 AM
<FONT size=6>WHERE IN THE **** ARE THESE JERSEYS?!!?!?!? What is the hold up?!?!?!!?</FONT>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 11:46 AM
The reports I read have shown that there was no signs of struggle on either Trayvons or Zimmermans part, no cuts, scratches, bruises, etc.

And what I'm trying to do is show you why those reports can not be trusted....when they go so far as to edit a 9-1-1 call to make him look racist, who knows if they are not editing the reports to make it seem like there was no struggle?


The question was who was the agressor, was it the unarmed teenager or the overzealous community member who was much larger than Martin?? Do you really think the 17yr old who was significantly smaller than Zimmerman was actually the agressor??? REALLY?!?!?!

Zimmerman (before even leaving his car) on the unedited 9-1-1 call said he looked like he was on drugs, my point is I'm not going to jump to conclusions based on nothing about who was or wasn't the aggressor when a mans life is on the line.

(you don't think someone hoped up on PCP or something like that would attack a guy bigger then him with a gun...I totally believe that could happen and we don't know that wasn't the case)


The idea that there has been no arrest when all the evidence points to wrongful murder is what all the uproar is over, and dont kid yourself Florida has one of the WORST and most 1 sided justice systems in the USA


The idea that there has been no arrest to ME points to a case that is FAR more complicated then what the perception is.
And Im showing you that even though someone disagrees with you they can still come up with their own views and beliefs and be right

Why did he look like he was on drugs, because he was walking home in the rain with a hood up?? And speaking of the UNEDITED 911 call they also told him to stay put and the police were handling it, yet he decided to take the law into his own hands

And you seem to have already jumped to conclusions on this case, which is why you have been fighting tooth and nail against me

Florida is and has always been known as one of the worst and most biased justice systems in the USA, I thought that was common knowledge

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 11:46 AM
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dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:47 AM
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please dont.....
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bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:47 AM
What is offensive and comical is how much play this kid gets when troops are dying every day. I have heard more about Trevon Martin in the last 3 weeks than I have any troop in the last year.

It is also condescending about the whole race thing. If it was a white kid that was dead and a black or mexican man shot him they would still be in jail.

Some peoples priorities are so backwards in this country. I could care less to hear another word about this kid honestly. 100's of children die every day and live in poverty and starve. I don't know, I just lost all sensitivity to this particular subject.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:47 AM
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/157903_204765974855_1322028587_q.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?New York Giants (http://www.facebook.com/newyorkgiants) are bringing the Red Jerseys back. #nyg #giants #bigblue</span></h6>


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<font size="6">NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!</font>
</p>LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 11:49 AM
That was to show that Im not just a blind follower, but to Daven I am

Yes, because in order to have ANY opinion on the case right now you MUST be blindly believing some report...

you should not have any opinion on the case one way or the other yet.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:50 AM
The reports I read have shown that there was no signs of struggle on either Trayvons or Zimmermans part, no cuts, scratches, bruises, etc.

And what I'm trying to do is show you why those reports can not be trusted....when they go so far as to edit a 9-1-1 call to make him look racist, who knows if they are not editing the reports to make it seem like there was no struggle?


The question was who was the agressor, was it the unarmed teenager or the overzealous community member who was much larger than Martin?? Do you really think the 17yr old who was significantly smaller than Zimmerman was actually the agressor??? REALLY?!?!?!

Zimmerman (before even leaving his car) on the unedited 9-1-1 call said he looked like he was on drugs, my point is I'm not going to jump to conclusions based on nothing about who was or wasn't the aggressor when a mans life is on the line.

(you don't think someone hoped up on PCP or something like that would attack a guy bigger then him with a gun...I totally believe that could happen and we don't know that wasn't the case)


The idea that there has been no arrest when all the evidence points to wrongful murder is what all the uproar is over, and dont kid yourself Florida has one of the WORST and most 1 sided justice systems in the USA


The idea that there has been no arrest to ME points to a case that is FAR more complicated then what the perception is.
And Im showing you that even though someone disagrees with you they can still come up with their own views and beliefs and be right

Why did he look like he was on drugs, because he was walking home in the rain with a hood up?? And speaking of the UNEDITED 911 call they also told him to stay put and the police were handling it, yet he decided to take the law into his own hands

And you seem to have already jumped to conclusions on this case, which is why you have been fighting tooth and nail against me

Florida is and has always been known as one of the worst and most biased justice systems in the USA, I thought that was common knowledge
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You jumped first Kase. Without the known facts.</P>

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:51 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

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I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
Dont you have work or something to do?

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:52 AM
What is offensive and comical is how much play this kid gets when troops are dying every day. I have heard more about Trevon Martin in the last 3 weeks than I have any troop in the last year.

It is also condescending about the whole race thing. If it was a white kid that was dead and a black or mexican man shot him they would still be in jail.

Some peoples priorities are so backwards in this country. I could care less to hear another word about this kid honestly. 100's of children die every day and live in poverty and starve. I don't know, I just lost all sensitivity to this particular subject.


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They won't let you forget it Lando...Not until you believe that we are all evil racists.</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 11:52 AM
<FONT size=6>WHERE IN THE **** ARE THESE JERSEYS?!!?!?!? What is the hold up?!?!?!!?</FONT>My sentiments exactly, ****e NIke!

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:53 AM
http://p.twimg.com/ApkWhhUCEAAPDsS.jpg

Of course you can't see the Giants player...

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 11:53 AM
Yes the media has made mistakes and I can admit it, but that doesnt change the fact at how I feel about the case and all of the details that have been proven right

They didn't make mistakes Kase, they PURPOSEFULLY edited the story in such a way to gain more attention.


So now because a few media outlets make mistakes and take the short cut you cant trust ANY of them?? In that case just cancel your newspaper subscription and stop watching ANY kind of news, CNN, Fox News, NPR, Limbaugh, whatever

Not a mistake Kase, a PURPOSEFUL edit of the story...they specifically told it this way in order to get more ratings.

There is nothing wrong with reading every news source out there....but you can't take it as fact...you have to take it with a grain of salt as they say.



You're supposed to take the stories from the media and create your own stance and thats what I do, just because conservative AND liberal outlets have been shown to make changes doesnt mean you cant still read/listen with a grain of salt


The Media is "supposed" to report stories objectively but since they stopped doing that years ago....you can no longer depend on their so called "facts" to form your own opinions.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 11:53 AM
OK, and what YOU think are 'facts' could turn out as lies too, hell on that line of thought we may all find out that water isnt wet and the sky isnt blue

that's the difference Kase I don't think I know anything about this right now, I've heard all the stories from all the different sources....but I don't believe ANY of them are 100% factual...that's why I'm not making a decision..


TMZ, OK I see we're getting condescending and pompous again. News sources such as CNN, Huffington Post, Boston Herald, Daily News and Yahoo are dis-credible sources to you, I forgot it wasnt on CSPAN so you werent allowed to form an original opinion... Silly me

Yes I do not consider CNN, Huffington Post, Boston Herald, Daily News and Yahoo credible sources, because they have all (especially the Huffington Post) have been known to opinionate stories.

About CSPAN, you still clearly do not understand what CSPAN is, it's NOT a news source, it literally just broadcasts Congress...while it's in session...there is nobody to relay the information (and therefore editorialize it) CSPAN is the Congress floor...straight into my ears...hence completely unbiased...that's why I'm saying politically it's the only unbiased source...because it's simple the senators/congressmen discussion on the floor.


OK all you keep saying is that your source is credible and mine isnt

NO I'm saying ALL sources are not credible anymore, I'm saying the media as a WHOLE can not be trusted anymore....unless it's an unedited police report, a court decision, or it's coming from the horses mouth it has to be questioned....


in reality all that shows is that you're closed minded and cannont accept the fact that someone can formulate opinions different than yours without being a 'sheep' or 'brainwashed'... Its highly offensive, comical, and disgustingly condescending of you, but keep going, humor me


No what I'm angry about Kase, is that people are forming opinions based upon lies, I'm simply NOT forming an opinion...and I don't think you should either..until we have the REAL facts (aka after or at least during the trial)


All of those media sources I named are JUST as biased as anyone out there but that doesnt make them dis-credible, you just gotta take the issues with a grain of salt and free thinking. If they are discredible to you then where do you get your news from, cause im sure they have some bias

Dude the CSPAN thing was a joke, you obviously cant take one

So the media as a whole cant be trusted, OK thats why we have our own sources and such but of course since im on the opposite end of the spectrum you believe that all my sources are just made up fallacies and liberal nonsense and thats comical, it shows just how horribly 1 sided you are

And I gotta say you seem pretty upset that I have formulated a differnent opinion than you on this case, I could careless that you disagree with me and your constant suggestion that my sources are 'false' and 'made up' is quite disrespectful.

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:53 AM
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bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:54 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
Dont you have work or something to do?

Yup, leaving in 36 minutes. [;)]

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:54 AM
http://p.twimg.com/ApkWhhUCEAAPDsS.jpg

Of course you can't see the Giants player...
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I think the only thing thats changing is the manufacturer. The actual style of the uniforms aren't changing due to the fact that Nike is making them.</P>

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:56 AM
It really is crazy how BIG he blew up in such a short time.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/530791_161709600618379_100003380217607_213275_1733 657510_n.jpg

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:56 AM
What is offensive and comical is how much play this kid gets when troops are dying every day. I have heard more about Trevon Martin in the last 3 weeks than I have any troop in the last year.

It is also condescending about the whole race thing. If it was a white kid that was dead and a black or mexican man shot him they would still be in jail.

Some peoples priorities are so backwards in this country. I could care less to hear another word about this kid honestly. 100's of children die every day and live in poverty and starve. <u>I don't know, I just lost all sensitivity to this particular subject. </u>


I hate to sound callous but I have as well. Its been beaten to death while crimes and homicides just as worse, if not worse than this case go unreported or are covered much less.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:57 AM
OK, and what YOU think are 'facts' could turn out as lies too, hell on that line of thought we may all find out that water isnt wet and the sky isnt blue

that's the difference Kase I don't think I know anything about this right now, I've heard all the stories from all the different sources....but I don't believe ANY of them are 100% factual...that's why I'm not making a decision..


TMZ, OK I see we're getting condescending and pompous again. News sources such as CNN, Huffington Post, Boston Herald, Daily News and Yahoo are dis-credible sources to you, I forgot it wasnt on CSPAN so you werent allowed to form an original opinion... Silly me

Yes I do not consider CNN, Huffington Post, Boston Herald, Daily News and Yahoo credible sources, because they have all (especially the Huffington Post) have been known to opinionate stories.

About CSPAN, you still clearly do not understand what CSPAN is, it's NOT a news source, it literally just broadcasts Congress...while it's in session...there is nobody to relay the information (and therefore editorialize it) CSPAN is the Congress floor...straight into my ears...hence completely unbiased...that's why I'm saying politically it's the only unbiased source...because it's simple the senators/congressmen discussion on the floor.


OK all you keep saying is that your source is credible and mine isnt

NO I'm saying ALL sources are not credible anymore, I'm saying the media as a WHOLE can not be trusted anymore....unless it's an unedited police report, a court decision, or it's coming from the horses mouth it has to be questioned....


in reality all that shows is that you're closed minded and cannont accept the fact that someone can formulate opinions different than yours without being a 'sheep' or 'brainwashed'... Its highly offensive, comical, and disgustingly condescending of you, but keep going, humor me


No what I'm angry about Kase, is that people are forming opinions based upon lies, I'm simply NOT forming an opinion...and I don't think you should either..until we have the REAL facts (aka after or at least during the trial)


All of those media sources I named are JUST as biased as anyone out there but that doesnt make them dis-credible, you just gotta take the issues with a grain of salt and free thinking. If they are discredible to you then where do you get your news from, cause im sure they have some bias

Dude the CSPAN thing was a joke, you obviously cant take one

So the media as a whole cant be trusted, OK thats why we have our own sources and such but of course since im on the opposite end of the spectrum you believe that all my sources are just made up fallacies and liberal nonsense and thats comical, it shows just how horribly 1 sided you are

And I gotta say you seem pretty upset that I have formulated a differnent opinion than you on this case, I could careless that you disagree with me and your constant suggestion that my sources are 'false' and 'made up' is quite disrespectful.
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I can only speak for myself Kase when I say that my "opinion" is that this guy is guilty of manslaughter or murder. The difference between you and I is that I admit it is just an opinion. </P>


I admit that I can't possibly know the facts in this hypercharged environment.</P>

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:57 AM
Someone just posted a photo of a Giants hoody with a Reebok logo and captioned it "throwback". LMAO

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 11:57 AM
10 more minutes until the new jerseys come out!!!

<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{" type":2}"="">Victor Cruz (http://www.facebook.com/cruz)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{" type":1}"=""> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{" type":3}"="">These new Nike Football (http://www.facebook.com/nikefootball) jerseys are crazy... </span></h6>
I gotta see this.Meh, I have a feeling they're gonna be identical to the reebok jerseys they had last season. When they start changing the logo's Ill get amped up

....And speaking of Giants apparel, <u>WTF is the deal with the horrible lack of Giants hats, and when there ARE Giants hats they're all that damned snapback crap.</u> Even my hat website hatland.com doesnt have a big selection of Giants hats when compared to other teams
THAAAANK YOU. seriously. iv only owned 2 giants hats. One my mother bought when she went to the superbowl in 90, blue hat <u>GIANTS</u> in white across the front. and the other was a black red and white that had the NY in the corner.
Your mom's went to SB in 90? CoolShe went in 86 too. I was there, in her belly[:)]


His mom has been to more Superbowls than he has actual games.
Dont you have work or something to do?

Yup, leaving in 36 minutes. [;)]
Hows it going? Hows Bluuuue?

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 11:58 AM
What is offensive and comical is how much play this kid gets when troops are dying every day. I have heard more about Trevon Martin in the last 3 weeks than I have any troop in the last year.

It is also condescending about the whole race thing. If it was a white kid that was dead and a black or mexican man shot him they would still be in jail.

Some peoples priorities are so backwards in this country. I could care less to hear another word about this kid honestly. 100's of children die every day and live in poverty and starve. <u>I don't know, I just lost all sensitivity to this particular subject. </u>


I hate to sound callous but I have as well. Its been beaten to death while crimes and homicides just as worse, if not worse than this case go unreported or are covered much less.

Exaaaaaaaaaaactly what I was trying to say.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 11:58 AM
It really is crazy how BIG he blew up in such a short time.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/530791_161709600618379_100003380217607_213275_1733 657510_n.jpg
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If he's wearing our new iniform I have to say that I'm not impressed.</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 11:58 AM
That was to show that Im not just a blind follower, but to Daven I am

Yes, because in order to have ANY opinion on the case right now you MUST be blindly believing some report...

you should not have any opinion on the case one way or the other yet.
This isnt communist china, I can have an opinion on whatever I want.

Im not 'blindly' believing anything, see this is why I really dont like debating with you, your level of condescension is disgusting

bigblue4417
04-03-2012, 12:00 PM
Hows it going? Hows Bluuuue?

Really good man, very happy with my new job.

Blue is good to, about 60 pounds now. Still being a bully to the other dog. He also started eating poo a while back but I think we got him off that with some medicine. So gross. He is just a bundle of energy. I'm glad the snow is gone so we can play ball and stuff. Run his *** around.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:02 PM
That was to show that Im not just a blind follower, but to Daven I am

Yes, because in order to have ANY opinion on the case right now you MUST be blindly believing some report...

you should not have any opinion on the case one way or the other yet.
This isnt communist china, I can have an opinion on whatever I want.

Im not 'blindly' believing anything, see this is why I really dont like debating with you, your level of condescension is disgusting
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Kase...the fact is that when there is asocially or politicallycharged case and all the facts aren't known, we tend to believe that which matches our social or political views.</P>


Its human being 101. You are guilty in my opinion of that in this case. (I say this with love)</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:03 PM
Yes the media has made mistakes and I can admit it, but that doesnt change the fact at how I feel about the case and all of the details that have been proven right

They didn't make mistakes Kase, they PURPOSEFULLY edited the story in such a way to gain more attention.


So now because a few media outlets make mistakes and take the short cut you cant trust ANY of them?? In that case just cancel your newspaper subscription and stop watching ANY kind of news, CNN, Fox News, NPR, Limbaugh, whatever

Not a mistake Kase, a PURPOSEFUL edit of the story...they specifically told it this way in order to get more ratings.

There is nothing wrong with reading every news source out there....but you can't take it as fact...<font size="5">you have to take it with a grain of salt as they say.</font>



You're supposed to take the stories from the media and create your own stance and thats what I do, just because conservative AND liberal outlets have been shown to make changes doesnt mean you cant still read/listen with a grain of salt


The Media is "supposed" to report stories objectively but since they stopped doing that years ago....you can no longer depend on their so called "facts" to form your own opinions.
Ive been saying that THE WHOLE TIME, yet you just 'happen' to overlook that

BS, the media doesnt report objectivley we all know that, you need a balance of both sides though and thats on the individual, you cant trust the media to do that for you... But to you, I only listen to one side and believe everything the media says. Show a little respect, eh

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:04 PM
What is offensive and comical is how much play this kid gets when troops are dying every day. I have heard more about Trevon Martin in the last 3 weeks than I have any troop in the last year.

It is also condescending about the whole race thing. If it was a white kid that was dead and a black or mexican man shot him they would still be in jail.

Some peoples priorities are so backwards in this country. I could care less to hear another word about this kid honestly. 100's of children die every day and live in poverty and starve. <u>I don't know, I just lost all sensitivity to this particular subject. </u>


I hate to sound callous but I have as well. Its been beaten to death while crimes and homicides just as worse, if not worse than this case go unreported or are covered much less.
...So because other stories got less press this one doesnt deserve any??

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:04 PM
Hows it going? Hows Bluuuue?

Really good man, very happy with my new job.

Blue is good to, about 60 pounds now. Still being a bully to the other dog. He also started eating poo a while back but I think we got him off that with some medicine. So gross. He is just a bundle of energy. I'm glad the snow is gone so we can play ball and stuff. Run his *** around.
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Once the schedule comes out and we settle on a game....the Gangsta countdown will begin!!!!</P>

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:05 PM
What is offensive and comical is how much play this kid gets when troops are dying every day. I have heard more about Trevon Martin in the last 3 weeks than I have any troop in the last year.

It is also condescending about the whole race thing. If it was a white kid that was dead and a black or mexican man shot him they would still be in jail.

Some peoples priorities are so backwards in this country. I could care less to hear another word about this kid honestly. 100's of children die every day and live in poverty and starve. <U>I don't know, I just lost all sensitivity to this particular subject. </U>


I hate to sound callous but I have as well. Its been beaten to death while crimes and homicides just as worse, if not worse than this case go unreported or are covered much less.
...So because other stories got less press this one doesnt deserve any??
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It deserves attention. Just not the disproportionate attention its getting.</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:06 PM
I can only speak for myself Kase when I say that my "opinion" is that this guy is guilty of manslaughter or murder. The difference between you and I is that I admit it is just an opinion. </p>


I admit that I can't possibly know the facts in this hypercharged environment.</p>And I believe he's guilty of murder, its not fact, its just what I think

Im not calling it fact cause Im not Trayvon Martin, Im not George Zimmerman, and Im not God so I wasnt there 1st hand thats why Im not acting like my word was passed down from the All-Mighty Lord

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:07 PM
That was to show that Im not just a blind follower, but to Daven I am

Yes, because in order to have ANY opinion on the case right now you MUST be blindly believing some report...

you should not have any opinion on the case one way or the other yet.
This isnt communist china, I can have an opinion on whatever I want.

Im not 'blindly' believing anything, see this is why I really dont like debating with you, your level of condescension is disgusting
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Kase...the fact is that when there is asocially or politicallycharged case and all the facts aren't known, we tend to believe that which matches our social or political views.</p>


Its human being 101. You are guilty in my opinion of that in this case. (I say this with love)</p>..And thats what we call politics, wether it be 'social', 'economic' or 'governmental'

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:07 PM
I can only speak for myself Kase when I say that my "opinion" is that this guy is guilty of manslaughter or murder. The difference between you and I is that I admit it is just an opinion. </P>


I admit that I can't possibly know the facts in this hypercharged environment.</P>


And I believe he's guilty of murder, its not fact, its just what I think

Im not calling it fact cause Im not Trayvon Martin, Im not George Zimmerman, and Im not God so I wasnt there 1st hand thats why Im not acting like my word was passed down from the All-Mighty Lord
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You have had many posts where you have suggested that no other possibility exists. In other words...you are claiming to know.</P>

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 12:08 PM
All of those media sources I named are JUST as biased as anyone out there but that doesnt make them dis-credible, you just gotta take the issues with a grain of salt and free thinking. If they are discredible to you then where do you get your news from, cause im sure they have some bias

when they are editing 9-1-1 calls to make people seem racist they are discreditable to me.

What I'm saying is ALL news sources today have become discreditable so I no longer formulate opinions based on ANY of them.




So the media as a whole cant be trusted, OK thats why we have our own sources and such but of course since im on the opposite end of the spectrum you believe that all my sources are just made up fallacies and liberal nonsense and thats comical, it shows just how horribly 1 sided you are


No, you are on the spectrum..I am not that's the difference.


And I gotta say you seem pretty upset that I have formulated a differnent opinion than you on this case, I could careless that you disagree with me and your constant suggestion that my sources are 'false' and 'made up' is quite disrespectful.


it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 12:10 PM
What is offensive and comical is how much play this kid gets when troops are dying every day. I have heard more about Trevon Martin in the last 3 weeks than I have any troop in the last year.

It is also condescending about the whole race thing. If it was a white kid that was dead and a black or mexican man shot him they would still be in jail.

Some peoples priorities are so backwards in this country. I could care less to hear another word about this kid honestly. 100's of children die every day and live in poverty and starve. <u>I don't know, I just lost all sensitivity to this particular subject. </u>


I hate to sound callous but I have as well. Its been beaten to death while crimes and homicides just as worse, if not worse than this case go unreported or are covered much less.
...So because other stories got less press this one doesnt deserve any??
It got plently of coverage, time to move on. Did you know Trayvon? Did you know Sean Bell? Why do you get so worked up over these popular cases that inject racism into them?

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 12:11 PM
Someone just posted a photo of a Giants hoody with a Reebok logo and captioned it "throwback". LMAO
LOL

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:11 PM
And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 12:13 PM
All of those media sources I named are JUST as biased as anyone out there but that doesnt make them dis-credible, you just gotta take the issues with a grain of salt and free thinking.* If they are discredible to you then where do you get your news from, cause im sure they have some bias

when they are editing 9-1-1 calls to make people seem racist they are discreditable to me.

What I'm saying is ALL news sources today have become discreditable so I no longer formulate opinions based on ANY of them.




So the media as a whole cant be trusted, OK thats why we have our own sources and such but of course since im on the opposite end of the spectrum you believe that all my sources are just made up fallacies and liberal nonsense and thats comical, it shows just how horribly 1 sided you are


No, you are on the spectrum..I am not that's the difference.


And I gotta say you seem pretty upset that I have formulated a differnent opinion than you on this case, I could careless that you disagree with me and your constant suggestion that my sources are 'false' and 'made up' is quite disrespectful.


it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.
I know a few brilliant one's that are on the spectrum.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:15 PM
All of those media sources I named are JUST as biased as anyone out there but that doesnt make them dis-credible, you just gotta take the issues with a grain of salt and free thinking. If they are discredible to you then where do you get your news from, cause im sure they have some bias

when they are editing 9-1-1 calls to make people seem racist they are discreditable to me.

What I'm saying is ALL news sources today have become discreditable so I no longer formulate opinions based on ANY of them.




So the media as a whole cant be trusted, OK thats why we have our own sources and such but of course since im on the opposite end of the spectrum you believe that all my sources are just made up fallacies and liberal nonsense and thats comical, it shows just how horribly 1 sided you are


No, you are on the spectrum..I am not that's the difference.


And I gotta say you seem pretty upset that I have formulated a differnent opinion than you on this case, I could careless that you disagree with me and your constant suggestion that my sources are 'false' and 'made up' is quite disrespectful.

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it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.</font>
Maybe im misunderstanding you, but honestly that makes me wanna punch ya in the mouth. Way to play into the disrespectful and condescending role you fit oh so well, at least I believe that you can have an opinion albeit 'different' but at least I dont have a problem with you having one

You can deny it all you want, but you're 'on the spectrum'

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 12:15 PM
And I believe he's guilty of murder, its not fact, its just what I think

Im not calling it fact cause Im not Trayvon Martin, Im not George Zimmerman, and Im not God so I wasnt there 1st hand thats why Im not acting like my word was passed down from the All-Mighty Lord


what you are saying and have been saying is.

#1) you believe Zimmerman is guilty.
#2) you've come to this opinion based on "Facts"
#3) you have displayed shock and anger that I can have any other opinion.

what I'm saying is...

#1) I don't believe that these "facts" you have based your opinion on can be trusted.
#2) I'm not willing to have ANY opinion on this case until the time that we know what are an aren't the REAL facts of this case.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:16 PM
What is offensive and comical is how much play this kid gets when troops are dying every day. I have heard more about Trevon Martin in the last 3 weeks than I have any troop in the last year.

It is also condescending about the whole race thing. If it was a white kid that was dead and a black or mexican man shot him they would still be in jail.

Some peoples priorities are so backwards in this country. I could care less to hear another word about this kid honestly. 100's of children die every day and live in poverty and starve. <u>I don't know, I just lost all sensitivity to this particular subject. </u>


I hate to sound callous but I have as well. Its been beaten to death while crimes and homicides just as worse, if not worse than this case go unreported or are covered much less.
...So because other stories got less press this one doesnt deserve any??
It got plently of coverage, time to move on. Did you know Trayvon? Did you know Sean Bell? Why do you get so worked up over these popular cases that inject racism into them?
Why is it time to move on was justice served and nobody was told??

I get worked up over police injustices and violations of human and civil rights

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:19 PM
All of those media sources I named are JUST as biased as anyone out there but that doesnt make them dis-credible, you just gotta take the issues with a grain of salt and free thinking. If they are discredible to you then where do you get your news from, cause im sure they have some bias

when they are editing 9-1-1 calls to make people seem racist they are discreditable to me.

What I'm saying is ALL news sources today have become discreditable so I no longer formulate opinions based on ANY of them.




So the media as a whole cant be trusted, OK thats why we have our own sources and such but of course since im on the opposite end of the spectrum you believe that all my sources are just made up fallacies and liberal nonsense and thats comical, it shows just how horribly 1 sided you are

No, you are on the spectrum..I am not that's the difference.


And I gotta say you seem pretty upset that I have formulated a differnent opinion than you on this case, I could careless that you disagree with me and your constant suggestion that my sources are 'false' and 'made up' is quite disrespectful.

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it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.</FONT>
Maybe im misunderstanding you, but honestly that makes me wanna punch ya in the mouth. Way to play into the disrespectful and condescending role you fit oh so well, at least I believe that you can have an opinion albeit 'different' but at least I dont have a problem with you having one

You can deny it all you want, but you're 'on the spectrum'
</P>


I don't understand your "disrespectful and condencending" contention. Based on what...The fact that he disagrees with you?</P>

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 12:19 PM
<font size="6">it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.</font>
Maybe im misunderstanding you, but honestly that makes me wanna punch ya in the mouth. Way to play into the disrespectful and condescending role you fit oh so well, at least I believe that you can have an opinion albeit 'different' but at least I dont have a problem with you having one

You can deny it all you want, but you're 'on the spectrum'


yes you don't get it, you are misunderstanding me.

I DO NOT have any opinion on the case right now...I'm not against you, im not on your side...I'm nowhere (as in not on the spectrum)

you have chosen one side already, you think Zimmerman is guilty, my point is that to me, I think NO ONE should have any opinion on this yet because I think it's unwise to jump to conclusions.

you can lean one way or another...but you, you are saying things like your opinion is based on facts and reacting with shock when someone suggests you may not be right.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 12:23 PM
And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me
On racism, they agree with them for the most part. They are always blaming someone, always pointing a finger. How can we get passed racism with idiots like these?
Jessie Jackson was caught saying hed like to cut Obamas nuts off when Obama was running for president because Obama said African American fathers need to step up and take responsibility. lol Hes a piece of crap.

Not one cop in the Sean Bell case was white, one looked white, and they made it allllll about racism.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:24 PM
And I believe he's guilty of murder, its not fact, its just what I think

Im not calling it fact cause Im not Trayvon Martin, Im not George Zimmerman, and Im not God so I wasnt there 1st hand thats why Im not acting like my word was passed down from the All-Mighty Lord


what you are saying and have been saying is.

#1) you believe Zimmerman is guilty.
#2) you've come to this opinion based on "Facts"
#3) you have displayed shock and anger that I can have any other opinion.

what I'm saying is...

#1) I don't believe that these "facts" you have based your opinion on can be trusted.
#2) I'm not willing to have ANY opinion on this case until the time that we know what are an aren't the REAL facts of this case.

1.I believe Zimmerman is guilty of murder, I didnt say it was a 'fact'

2.I never act like what I was saying was 'fact' unlike you who acted like what you said was the Holy Word

3. My anger comes from how disrespectful and condescending you have been this WHOLE TIME, from the 1st time we started this up, until your last post. I could care less about your difference of opinion, that isnt what bothers me

#1) I don't believe that these "facts" you have based your opinion on can be trusted.- Ya know how disrespectful that is!?!?! Why cant they be trusted, but yours can???

#2) I'm not willing to have ANY opinion on this case until the time that we know what are an aren't the REAL facts of this case. - IF there is a case, thats what the majority of the outrage has come from, there isnt a case and there needs to be one

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:28 PM
<font size="6">it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.</font>
Maybe im misunderstanding you, but honestly that makes me wanna punch ya in the mouth. Way to play into the disrespectful and condescending role you fit oh so well, at least I believe that you can have an opinion albeit 'different' but at least I dont have a problem with you having one

You can deny it all you want, but you're 'on the spectrum'


yes you don't get it, you are misunderstanding me.

I DO NOT have any opinion on the case right now...I'm not against you, im not on your side...I'm nowhere (as in not on the spectrum)

you have chosen one side already, you think Zimmerman is guilty, my point is that to me, I think NO ONE should have any opinion on this yet because I think it's unwise to jump to conclusions.

you can lean one way or another...but you, you are saying things like your opinion is based on facts and reacting with shock when someone suggests you may not be right.
Yes I have chosen 1 side already and while I believe its the correct side, I acknowledge that I could be wrong, we're human we're not infallible

My opinion is based on certain facts like the unedited 911 call, the evidence at the crime scene, and the 911 call from a neighbor

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:29 PM
<FONT size=6>it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.</FONT>
Maybe im misunderstanding you, but honestly that makes me wanna punch ya in the mouth. Way to play into the disrespectful and condescending role you fit oh so well, at least I believe that you can have an opinion albeit 'different' but at least I dont have a problem with you having one

You can deny it all you want, but you're 'on the spectrum'


yes you don't get it, you are misunderstanding me.

I DO NOT have any opinion on the case right now...I'm not against you, im not on your side...I'm nowhere (as in not on the spectrum)

you have chosen one side already, you think Zimmerman is guilty, my point is that to me, I think NO ONE should have any opinion on this yet because I think it's unwise to jump to conclusions.

you can lean one way or another...but you, you are saying things like your opinion is based on facts and reacting with shock when someone suggests you may not be right.
Yes I have chosen 1 side already and while I believe its the correct side, I acknowledge that I could be wrong, we're human we're not infallible

My opinion is based on certain facts like the unedited 911 call, the evidence at the crime scene, and the 911 call from a neighbor
</P>


What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:31 PM
And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me
On racism, they agree with them for the most part. They are always blaming someone, always pointing a finger. How can we get passed racism with idiots like these?
Jessie Jackson was caught saying hed like to cut Obamas nuts off when Obama was running for president because Obama said African American fathers need to step up and take responsibility. lol Hes a piece of crap.

Not one cop in the Sean Bell case was white, one looked white, and they made it allllll about racism.





Who's this 'they' you're talking about??

Al and Jessie may have tried to make it about racism but in truth is was about overzealous police procedures and ANOTHER unarmed shooting. You may have seen race all over it but I was upset because of an unarmed man getting OVER-SHOT by the cops, its not all about race to me man

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:34 PM
What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</p>Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:35 PM
What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</P>


Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me


</P>


If it were only that simple Kase.</P>

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:38 PM
And Kase...What do you think happened here? Do you think he hunted him down and just shot him for no reason? Do you think he just was all of the sudden filled with hate that he just killed the kid because he wanted to? </P>


You have already claimed that "there was no sign of a struggle".</P>


What do you actually think happened?</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:40 PM
What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</p>


Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me


</p>


If it were only that simple Kase.</p>In NY he would have been arrested on scene, you cant shoot people outside of your house and not get arrested. Even if its 100% self defense you would probably get arrested, processed, and eventually proven innocent.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:42 PM
What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</P>


Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me


</P>


If it were only that simple Kase.</P>


In NY he would have been arrested on scene, you cant shoot people outside of your house and not get arrested. Even if its 100% self defense you would probably get arrested, processed, and eventually proven innocent.
</P>


Is that better? is it better to live in a police state where they can arrest you even if the apparent facts show that you are not guilty of anything?</P>


What the hell kind of liberal are you?</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:44 PM
And Kase...What do you think happened here? Do you think he hunted him down and just shot him for no reason? Do you think he just was all of the sudden filled with hate that he just killed the kid because he wanted to? </p>


You have already claimed that "there was no sign of a struggle".</p>


What do you actually think happened?</p>

Ehhhh thats kinda what it sounds like. It SOUNDS like he thought since the gated community had a black guy rob a house he should on guard for all black people coming into his community. He saw Martin wearing a hood and walking in the rain back to his dads fiancee's house, thought this was one of the robbers, called 911 for backup, went outside and pulled the gun on Martin, told him to put his hands up, (Martin probably had his hands in the kangaroo pouch since it was raining) Martin pulled his hands out of his pockets holding the skittles or iced tea, Zimmerman thought it was a gun, BANG!!

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 12:45 PM
And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me
On racism, they agree with them for the most part. They are always blaming someone, always pointing a finger. How can we get passed racism with idiots like these?
Jessie Jackson was caught saying hed like to cut Obamas nuts off when Obama was running for president because Obama said African American fathers need to step up and take responsibility. lol Hes a piece of crap.

Not one cop in the Sean Bell case was white, one looked white, and they made it allllll about racism.





Who's this 'they' you're talking about??

Al and Jessie may have tried to make it about racism but in truth is was about overzealous police procedures<u> and ANOTHER unarmed shooting.</u> You may have seen race all over it but I was upset because of an unarmed man getting OVER-SHOT by the cops, its not all about race to me man
lol they tried running over police with their car after police told them not to move. The driver even pinned a cop to the surveillance van. Its easy to say " they shouldnt of shot that many rounds" but we werent there

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:47 PM
What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</p>


Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me


</p>


If it were only that simple Kase.</p>


In NY he would have been arrested on scene, you cant shoot people outside of your house and not get arrested. Even if its 100% self defense you would probably get arrested, processed, and eventually proven innocent.
</p>


Is that better? is it better to live in a police state where they can arrest you even if the apparent facts show that you are not guilty of anything?</p>


What the hell kind of liberal are you?</p>Police state, absolutley NOT. Thorough procedures when it comes to major crimes, absolutley

Im a realistic liberal, Im not what the conservative media portrays as 'liberal', I dont wear tie-dye, I dont pick flowers, Ive never ridden a unicycle or participated in a circus

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 12:47 PM
and the undercovers also herd bell and guzman talk about a gun in the car while having words with other drug dealers.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:48 PM
And Kase...What do you think happened here? Do you think he hunted him down and just shot him for no reason? Do you think he just was all of the sudden filled with hate that he just killed the kid because he wanted to? </P>


You have already claimed that "there was no sign of a struggle".</P>


What do you actually think happened?</P>




Ehhhh thats kinda what it sounds like. It SOUNDS like he thought since the gated community had a black guy rob a house he should on guard for all black people coming into his community. He saw Martin wearing a hood and walking in the rain back to his dads fiancee's house, thought this was one of the robbers, called 911 for backup, went outside and pulled the gun on Martin, told him to put his hands up, (Martin probably had his hands in the kangaroo pouch since it was raining) Martin pulled his hands out of his pockets holding the skittles or iced tea, Zimmerman thought it was a gun, BANG!!
</P>


What about the witnesses that say they heard cries for help. What about the witnesses (some who support both sides saying there was a fight?</P>


Do we disregard all the witness accounts and just draw a conclusion that casts Zimmerman in the most negative light?</P>

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:51 PM
What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</P>


Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me


</P>


If it were only that simple Kase.</P>


In NY he would have been arrested on scene, you cant shoot people outside of your house and not get arrested. Even if its 100% self defense you would probably get arrested, processed, and eventually proven innocent.
</P>


Is that better? is it better to live in a police state where they can arrest you even if the apparent facts show that you are not guilty of anything?</P>


What the hell kind of liberal are you?</P>


Police state, absolutley NOT. Thorough procedures when it comes to major crimes, absolutley

Im a realistic liberal, Im not what the conservative media portrays as 'liberal', I dont wear tie-dye, I dont pick flowers, Ive never ridden a unicycle or participated in a circus
</P>


I don't know anyone who portrays a liberal in that way. You watch too much TV.</P>


Quite honestly I live a more liberal lifestyle. I play guitar, daydream, and don't make very much money. The difference between a liberal and a conservative is that liberals believe in the power of government and conservatives believe in the power of the individual.</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:52 PM
And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me
On racism, they agree with them for the most part. They are always blaming someone, always pointing a finger. How can we get passed racism with idiots like these?
Jessie Jackson was caught saying hed like to cut Obamas nuts off when Obama was running for president because Obama said African American fathers need to step up and take responsibility. lol Hes a piece of crap.

Not one cop in the Sean Bell case was white, one looked white, and they made it allllll about racism.





Who's this 'they' you're talking about??

Al and Jessie may have tried to make it about racism but in truth is was about overzealous police procedures<u> and ANOTHER unarmed shooting.</u> You may have seen race all over it but I was upset because of an unarmed man getting OVER-SHOT by the cops, its not all about race to me man
lol they tried running over police with their car after police told them not to move. The driver even pinned a cop to the surveillance van. Its easy to say " they shouldnt of shot that many rounds" but we werent there
1 of the biggest issues in the case was that the plainclothes cops didnt properly identify themselves as police officers, so the bell party thought they were getting robbed.

Ive been robbed on the street before and they looked like plainclothes cops driving a car that plainclothes cops typically drive (black impala), Im VERY pre-emptive about plainclothes cops, alot of them Ive had the 'pleasure' of dealing with are wannabe-'tough guys' and abuse their power, then again I have met a few that were regular people who just happened to be plainclothes cops

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 12:53 PM
And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me
On racism, they agree with them for the most part. They are always blaming someone, always pointing a finger. How can we get passed racism with idiots like these?
Jessie Jackson was caught saying hed like to cut Obamas nuts off when Obama was running for president because Obama said African American fathers need to step up and take responsibility. lol Hes a piece of crap.

Not one cop in the Sean Bell case was white, one looked white, and they made it allllll about racism.





Who's this 'they' you're talking about??

<u>Al and Jessie may have tried to make it about racism but in truth is was about overzealous police procedures and ANOTHER unarmed shooting.</u> You may have seen race all over it but I was upset because of an unarmed man getting OVER-SHOT by the cops, its not all about race to me man
African Americans. See you think it was "overzealous police procedure". Jessie and Al think it wasracism and many, many african americans buy into it. Thats whats happening with the Trayvon case. And its very dangerous and pathetic imo.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:54 PM
and the undercovers also herd bell and guzman talk about a gun in the car while having words with other drug dealers.
Whatever happened to that gun they were talking about???

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:57 PM
And Kase...What do you think happened here? Do you think he hunted him down and just shot him for no reason? Do you think he just was all of the sudden filled with hate that he just killed the kid because he wanted to? </p>


You have already claimed that "there was no sign of a struggle".</p>


What do you actually think happened?</p>




Ehhhh thats kinda what it sounds like. It SOUNDS like he thought since the gated community had a black guy rob a house he should on guard for all black people coming into his community. He saw Martin wearing a hood and walking in the rain back to his dads fiancee's house, thought this was one of the robbers, called 911 for backup, went outside and pulled the gun on Martin, told him to put his hands up, (Martin probably had his hands in the kangaroo pouch since it was raining) Martin pulled his hands out of his pockets holding the skittles or iced tea, Zimmerman thought it was a gun, BANG!!
</p>


What about the witnesses that say they heard cries for help. What about the witnesses (some who support both sides saying there was a fight?</p>


Do we disregard all the witness accounts and just draw a conclusion that casts Zimmerman in the most negative light?</p>But the 'media' told you about the witness accounts, so is that now discredited???

Hey, thats my conclusion, you can formulate your own, Ill allow it

...MH are you moonlighting as a reporter??? LOL

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 12:58 PM
You guys are making me want to become a politician, LOL!!!!

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 12:59 PM
And Kase...What do you think happened here? Do you think he hunted him down and just shot him for no reason? Do you think he just was all of the sudden filled with hate that he just killed the kid because he wanted to? </P>


You have already claimed that "there was no sign of a struggle".</P>


What do you actually think happened?</P>




Ehhhh thats kinda what it sounds like. It SOUNDS like he thought since the gated community had a black guy rob a house he should on guard for all black people coming into his community. He saw Martin wearing a hood and walking in the rain back to his dads fiancee's house, thought this was one of the robbers, called 911 for backup, went outside and pulled the gun on Martin, told him to put his hands up, (Martin probably had his hands in the kangaroo pouch since it was raining) Martin pulled his hands out of his pockets holding the skittles or iced tea, Zimmerman thought it was a gun, BANG!!
</P>


What about the witnesses that say they heard cries for help. What about the witnesses (some who support both sides saying there was a fight?</P>


Do we disregard all the witness accounts and just draw a conclusion that casts Zimmerman in the most negative light?</P>


But the 'media' told you about the witness accounts, so is that now discredited???

Hey, thats my conclusion, you can formulate your own, Ill allow it

...MH are you moonlighting as a reporter??? LOL
</P>


I'm saying I don't know what happened. thast what I've been saying all along. I've seen two witnesses directly on camera that have offered different stories. One said that the man in red was at the bottom of the fight and was yelling for help. Another said that it was the kid yelling for help. Both say there was a fight.</P>

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 01:03 PM
and the undercovers also herd bell and guzman talk about a gun in the car while having words with other drug dealers.
Whatever happened to that gun they were talking about???

If you were a cop, are you going to take that chance???
and once they tried to run an officer over, the gun became irrelevant.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 01:07 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-case-enhan_n_1397022.html
Zimmerman has a huge gash on the back of his head. Looks like there was indeed some sort of struggle.

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 01:14 PM
But the 'media' told you about the witness accounts, so is that now discredited???

Hey, thats my conclusion, you can formulate your own, Ill allow it

...MH are you moonlighting as a reporter??? LOL


That's the thing Kase, you are the only one making a decision on ONE (or a couple) media outlets.

What I'm saying (and I think Morehead as well) is that there are so many conflicting reports that we can't possibly formulate a strong opinion one way or another, how are we supposed to decide which media outlet is telling the truth and which is lying? (and clearly some are lying NBC)

that's not our place...that's the police and the courts job...after they figure out who is lying and who is telling the truth...I will take the truth and then come up with my opinion....but to do so before so is silly, In my opinion.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:15 PM
and the undercovers also herd bell and guzman talk about a gun in the car while having words with other drug dealers.
Whatever happened to that gun they were talking about???

If you were a cop, are you going to take that chance???
and once they tried to run an officer over, the gun became irrelevant.
The gun talk was supposedly the reason the whole incident went down, so where is the 'gun' that caused the whole debacle is a HUGE issue

Like I said before there was contradicting stories of weather the cops correctly identified themselves as cops or not. In South Jamaica Queens if an unmarked van pulls up to your car and a bunch of guys hop out with guns, Im not thinking cops, Im thinking oh shjt im getting robbed

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 01:17 PM
ps4 coming in 2013, the wait is over Morehead!!!!!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/122/1222124p1.html

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:19 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-case-enhan_n_1397022.html
Zimmerman has a huge gash on the back of his head. Looks like there was indeed some sort of struggle.
Kind of like there was that 911 call that was later proven to be altered

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 01:21 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-case-enhan_n_1397022.html
Zimmerman has a huge gash on the back of his head. Looks like there was indeed some sort of struggle.
Kind of like there was that 911 call that was later proven to be altered


but notice how nothing was altered in Zimmerman's favor...

just saying.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:22 PM
But the 'media' told you about the witness accounts, so is that now discredited???

Hey, thats my conclusion, you can formulate your own, Ill allow it

...MH are you moonlighting as a reporter??? LOL


That's the thing Kase, you are the only one making a decision on ONE (or a couple) media outlets.

What I'm saying (and I think Morehead as well) is that there are so many conflicting reports that we can't possibly formulate a strong opinion one way or another, how are we supposed to decide which media outlet is telling the truth and which is lying? (and clearly some are lying NBC)

that's not our place...that's the police and the courts job...after they figure out who is lying and who is telling the truth...I will take the truth and then come up with my opinion....but to do so before so is silly, In my opinion.
1 is different than multiple media outlets, lets not down sell that, Ive named multiple media sources but you still dont recognize

Its my place as a human to have an opinion and thats what I did, to me there was enough in play to come up with an opinion, for you there was not, BFD

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 01:24 PM
and the undercovers also herd bell and guzman talk about a gun in the car while having words with other drug dealers.
Whatever happened to that gun they were talking about???

If you were a cop, are you going to take that chance???
and once they tried to run an officer over, the gun became irrelevant.
The gun talk was supposedly the reason the whole incident went down, so where is the 'gun' that caused the whole debacle is a HUGE issue

Like I said before there was contradicting stories of weather the cops correctly identified themselves as cops or not.* In South Jamaica Queens if an unmarked van pulls up to your car and a bunch of guys hop out with guns, Im not thinking cops, Im thinking oh shjt im getting robbed
I would think the same...btw, the unicycle and spectrum were my favorite parts so far. :)

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:25 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-case-enhan_n_1397022.html
Zimmerman has a huge gash on the back of his head. Looks like there was indeed some sort of struggle.
Kind of like there was that 911 call that was later proven to be altered


but notice how nothing was altered in Zimmerman's favor...

just saying.
How can you trust this, when you spent all morning virtually saying dont trust the media??

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 01:28 PM
1 is different than multiple media outlets, lets not down sell that, Ive named multiple media sources but you still dont recognize

Because it's not different, not to someone who doesn't put a lot of faith (if any) in ANY media outlet.

coming to a conclusion based off of 1 lie is no different then coming to a conclusion based of 10 lies.


Its my place as a human to have an opinion and thats what I did, to me there was enough in play to come up with an opinion, for you there was not, BFD

I think it's also a "human's" place to decide to be patient and not jump to conclusions of off what is obviously biased information.

yes you should eventually have an opinion on this matter, but do you have to have 1 one day after? one week after? a year after? no, you don't...you can take as long as you want to form that opinion, and right now I think it's foolish to have already cemented yourself on one side of the issue as you have....because there simply is not enough information to pick a side (YET) in my opinion.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:28 PM
And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me
On racism, they agree with them for the most part. They are always blaming someone, always pointing a finger. How can we get passed racism with idiots like these?
Jessie Jackson was caught saying hed like to cut Obamas nuts off when Obama was running for president because Obama said African American fathers need to step up and take responsibility. lol Hes a piece of crap.

Not one cop in the Sean Bell case was white, one looked white, and they made it allllll about racism.





Who's this 'they' you're talking about??

<u>Al and Jessie may have tried to make it about racism but in truth is was about overzealous police procedures and ANOTHER unarmed shooting.</u> You may have seen race all over it but I was upset because of an unarmed man getting OVER-SHOT by the cops, its not all about race to me man
African Americans. See you think it was "overzealous police procedure". Jessie and Al think it wasracism and many, many african americans buy into it. Thats whats happening with the Trayvon case. And its very dangerous and pathetic imo.
My friends didnt feel that way, my gf didnt feel that way and WTF is with this 'always pointing a finger' and 'always blaming someone', I hope to Strahan that you're talking about Al and Jessie not all black people

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 01:29 PM
Biggest diff I can see is heavy duty neckline and shoulder seam stitching with a design change on the neck sweep.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/04/03/unilpg-vertical.jpg

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:32 PM
1 is different than multiple media outlets, lets not down sell that, Ive named multiple media sources but you still dont recognize

Because it's not different, not to someone who doesn't put a lot of faith (if any) in ANY media outlet.

coming to a conclusion based off of 1 lie is no different then coming to a conclusion based of 10 lies.


Its my place as a human to have an opinion and thats what I did, to me there was enough in play to come up with an opinion, for you there was not, BFD

I think it's also a "human's" place to decide to be patient and not jump to conclusions of off what is obviously biased information.

yes you should eventually have an opinion on this matter, but do you have to have 1 one day after? one week after? a year after? no, you don't...you can take as long as you want to form that opinion, and right now I think it's foolish to have already cemented yourself on one side of the issue as you have....because there simply is not enough information to pick a side (YET) in my opinion.
YAWN, now we're just talking in circles, you hate the media and dont trust it, but you really do but you dont wanna admit it. I admit I get news from the media, which is the only place to get news unless you experience it 1st hand or 2nd hand and a friend/fam memeber experienced it

You think its foolish to form an opinion and I dont care, Ive seen/heard enough to form one

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 01:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-case-enhan_n_1397022.html
Zimmerman has a huge gash on the back of his head. Looks like there was indeed some sort of struggle.
Kind of like there was that 911 call that was later proven to be altered


but notice how nothing was altered in Zimmerman's favor...

just saying.
How can you trust this, when you spent all morning virtually saying dont trust the media??


trust what?

first there was a 9-1-1 call that made Zimmerman sound as though he were racist... then later there was an unedited 9-1-1 tape released at a later time that put Zimmerman's comments into a much different perspective.

there is nothing to trust there...that is a fact (unlike most of the other stuff) that can not be debated.

There were reports that there was no struggle, but then pictures arose that showed a gash on the back of his head, are you honestly going to tell me you don't believe that the media knew about this gash? I think they did and they withheld it on purpose.

The point is everything so far that has turned out to be wrong has put Zimmerman in a bad light....

I suppose it could be a coincidence, but I don't believe that's the case.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:33 PM
Biggest diff I can see is heavy duty neckline and shoulder seam stitching with a design change on the neck sweep.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/04/03/unilpg-vertical.jpgIm still irked about the red jerseys!!!

Red is one of my fav colors but we're just awful in those things with SUCH bad luck

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 01:34 PM
YAWN, now we're just talking in circles, you hate the media and dont trust it, but you really do but you dont wanna admit it. I admit I get news from the media, which is the only place to get news unless you experience it 1st hand or 2nd hand and a friend/fam memeber experienced it

lol you are not listening, that's why we are talking in circles.

I'm saying it's better to wait for a full story and all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.

you are in effect telling me that I'm wrong, that I should just believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what....and that is foolish.



You think its foolish to form an opinion and I dont care, Ive seen/heard enough to form one


I'm not against formulating an opinion, I'm an opinionated individual you know that, what I AM against is jumping to conclusions based on half assed reporting...which is what you've done here.

remember I don't HAVE a solid opinion on this case yet....YOU do.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 01:38 PM
Biggest diff I can see is heavy duty neckline and shoulder seam stitching with a design change on the neck sweep.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/04/03/unilpg-vertical.jpgIm still irked about the red jerseys!!!

Red is one of my fav colors but we're just awful in those things with SUCH bad luck
Just read they wont be wearing the red jerseys this year.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:39 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/trayvon-martin-case-enhan_n_1397022.html
Zimmerman has a huge gash on the back of his head. Looks like there was indeed some sort of struggle.
Kind of like there was that 911 call that was later proven to be altered


but notice how nothing was altered in Zimmerman's favor...

just saying.
How can you trust this, when you spent all morning virtually saying dont trust the media??


trust what?

first there was a 9-1-1 call that made Zimmerman sound as though he were racist... then later there was an unedited 9-1-1 tape released at a later time that put Zimmerman's comments into a much different perspective.

there is nothing to trust there...that is a fact (unlike most of the other stuff) that can not be debated.

There were reports that there was no struggle, but then pictures arose that showed a gash on the back of his head, are you honestly going to tell me you don't believe that the media knew about this gash? I think they did and they withheld it on purpose.

The point is everything so far that has turned out to be wrong has put Zimmerman in a bad light....

I suppose it could be a coincidence, but I don't believe that's the case.
Judging by the altered 911 call, who knows if there is even really a mark, or maybe its a mark from a previous injury, we have no idea. Does it look like a cut in his head, I think so, but its not bloody or nothing and a cut of that size would be LEAKING

You really think the media would withold something like that until now, now to me that sounds foolish. If you had info like that you would release it immediately

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 01:41 PM
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lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 01:43 PM
Biggest diff I can see is heavy duty neckline and shoulder seam stitching with a design change on the neck sweep.

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/04/03/unilpg-vertical.jpgIm still irked about the red jerseys!!!

Red is one of my fav colors but we're just awful in those things with SUCH bad luck
Yes, we agree on those alternate Jersey's. I love my Eli Red, but I get **** everytime I wear it.

It looks like the Nike apparrel line is predominately polyester. They must be big on that "dry-wick" sports fabrics. For the most part, I like the 100% cotton stuff.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:44 PM
YAWN, now we're just talking in circles, you hate the media and dont trust it, but you really do but you dont wanna admit it. I admit I get news from the media, which is the only place to get news unless you experience it 1st hand or 2nd hand and a friend/fam memeber experienced it

lol you are not listening, that's why we are talking in circles.

I'm saying it's better to wait for a full story and all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.

you are in effect telling me that I'm wrong, that I should just believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what....and that is foolish.



You think its foolish to form an opinion and I dont care, Ive seen/heard enough to form one


I'm not against formulating an opinion, I'm an opinionated individual you know that, what I AM against is jumping to conclusions based on half assed reporting...which is what you've done here.

remember I don't HAVE a solid opinion on this case yet....YOU do.
You're not listening at ALL, which is why we're talking in circles and you dont wanna give it up

Im not telling you to do anything, you are just pulling this outta thin air, NEVER did I say...."believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what" - Now you're being the foolish one


You call it jumping to conclusions on half-assed reporting, I call it forming an opinion after listening to what has been brought to light so far

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:52 PM
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Morehead State
04-03-2012, 01:55 PM
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<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":1}'><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft='{"type":3}'>David Diehl acknowledges his disdain for the red jerseys: "Our record is terrible in them."</SPAN></H6>


</P>


But you hate David Diehl. So now you must like the red jerseys.</P>

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 01:57 PM
YAWN, now we're just talking in circles, you hate the media and dont trust it, but you really do but you dont wanna admit it. I admit I get news from the media, which is the only place to get news unless you experience it 1st hand or 2nd hand and a friend/fam memeber experienced it

lol you are not listening, that's why we are talking in circles.

I'm saying it's better to wait for a full story and all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.

you are in effect telling me that I'm wrong, that I should just believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what....and that is foolish.



You think its foolish to form an opinion and I dont care, Ive seen/heard enough to form one


I'm not against formulating an opinion, I'm an opinionated individual you know that, what I AM against is jumping to conclusions based on half assed reporting...which is what you've done here.

remember I don't HAVE a solid opinion on this case yet....YOU do.
You're not listening at ALL, which is why we're talking in circles and you dont wanna give it up

Im not telling you to do anything, you are just pulling this outta thin air, NEVER did I say...."believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what" - Now you're being the foolish one


You call it jumping to conclusions on half-assed reporting, I call it forming an opinion after listening to what has been brought to light so far
</P>


I call it being willing to go along with the a conclusion that is consistent with your social and political views, without sufficient facts to back it up.</P>


Its called believing what you desperately want to be true.</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:57 PM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
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<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">David Diehl acknowledges his disdain for the red jerseys: "Our record is terrible in them."</span></h6>


</p>


But you hate David Diehl. So now you must like the red jerseys.</p>But I LOVE you!!!

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 01:59 PM
YAWN, now we're just talking in circles, you hate the media and dont trust it, but you really do but you dont wanna admit it. I admit I get news from the media, which is the only place to get news unless you experience it 1st hand or 2nd hand and a friend/fam memeber experienced it

lol you are not listening, that's why we are talking in circles.

I'm saying it's better to wait for a full story and all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.

you are in effect telling me that I'm wrong, that I should just believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what....and that is foolish.



You think its foolish to form an opinion and I dont care, Ive seen/heard enough to form one


I'm not against formulating an opinion, I'm an opinionated individual you know that, what I AM against is jumping to conclusions based on half assed reporting...which is what you've done here.

remember I don't HAVE a solid opinion on this case yet....YOU do.
You're not listening at ALL, which is why we're talking in circles and you dont wanna give it up

Im not telling you to do anything, you are just pulling this outta thin air, NEVER did I say...."believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what" - Now you're being the foolish one


You call it jumping to conclusions on half-assed reporting, I call it forming an opinion after listening to what has been brought to light so far
</p>


I call it being willing to go along with the a conclusion that is consistent with your social and political views, without sufficient facts to back it up.</p>


Its called believing what you desperately want to be true.</p>Why would someone want that to be true, nobody wants an unarmed teenager shot for no reason??

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 02:02 PM
YAWN, now we're just talking in circles, you hate the media and dont trust it, but you really do but you dont wanna admit it. I admit I get news from the media, which is the only place to get news unless you experience it 1st hand or 2nd hand and a friend/fam memeber experienced it

lol you are not listening, that's why we are talking in circles.

I'm saying it's better to wait for a full story and all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.

you are in effect telling me that I'm wrong, that I should just believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what....and that is foolish.



You think its foolish to form an opinion and I dont care, Ive seen/heard enough to form one


I'm not against formulating an opinion, I'm an opinionated individual you know that, what I AM against is jumping to conclusions based on half assed reporting...which is what you've done here.

remember I don't HAVE a solid opinion on this case yet....YOU do.
You're not listening at ALL, which is why we're talking in circles and you dont wanna give it up

Im not telling you to do anything, you are just pulling this outta thin air, NEVER did I say...."believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what" - Now you're being the foolish one


You call it jumping to conclusions on half-assed reporting, I call it forming an opinion after listening to what has been brought to light so far
</P>


I call it being willing to go along with the a conclusion that is consistent with your social and political views, without sufficient facts to back it up.</P>


Its called believing what you desperately want to be true.</P>


Why would someone want that to be true, nobody wants an unarmed teenager shot for no reason??
</P>


If video was released today showing the kid attacking Zimmerman as he was walking back to his car, then pounding his head on the pavement while reaching for Zimmerman's gun....you are going to be very, very dissapointed.</P>

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 02:03 PM
Be honest Kase.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 02:05 PM
BTW..Did anyone acknowledge our 3 year anniversary yesterday?

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 02:06 PM
YAWN, now we're just talking in circles, you hate the media and dont trust it, but you really do but you dont wanna admit it. I admit I get news from the media, which is the only place to get news unless you experience it 1st hand or 2nd hand and a friend/fam memeber experienced it

lol you are not listening, that's why we are talking in circles.

I'm saying it's better to wait for a full story and all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.

you are in effect telling me that I'm wrong, that I should just believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what....and that is foolish.



You think its foolish to form an opinion and I dont care, Ive seen/heard enough to form one


I'm not against formulating an opinion, I'm an opinionated individual you know that, what I AM against is jumping to conclusions based on half assed reporting...which is what you've done here.

remember I don't HAVE a solid opinion on this case yet....YOU do.
You're not listening at ALL, which is why we're talking in circles and you dont wanna give it up

Im not telling you to do anything, you are just pulling this outta thin air, NEVER did I say...."believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what" - Now you're being the foolish one


You call it jumping to conclusions on half-assed reporting, I call it forming an opinion after listening to what has been brought to light so far
</p>


I call it being willing to go along with the a conclusion that is consistent with your social and political views, without sufficient facts to back it up.</p>


Its called believing what you desperately want to be true.</p>


Why would someone want that to be true, nobody wants an unarmed teenager shot for no reason??
</p>


If video was released today showing the kid attacking Zimmerman as he was walking back to his car, then pounding his head on the pavement while reaching for Zimmerman's gun....you are going to be very, very dissapointed.</p>Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 02:08 PM
Judging by the altered 911 call, who knows if there is even really a mark, or maybe its a mark from a previous injury, we have no idea. Does it look like a cut in his head, I think so, but its not bloody or nothing and a cut of that size would be LEAKING

That's not the point, the point is they said no visible cuts or bruises when there WAS....they were lying


You really think the media would withold something like that until now, now to me that sounds foolish. If you had info like that you would release it immediately


yes I really do think that, you know why, because they DID do it with the 9-1-1 recording...why is it foolish they would do it twice...they've already did it once (in this case) and they do it every day on a daily basis...I think it's naive of you to believe that the media wouldn't withhold information after being shown clearly that that did it before.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 02:09 PM
YAWN, now we're just talking in circles, you hate the media and dont trust it, but you really do but you dont wanna admit it. I admit I get news from the media, which is the only place to get news unless you experience it 1st hand or 2nd hand and a friend/fam memeber experienced it

lol you are not listening, that's why we are talking in circles.

I'm saying it's better to wait for a full story and all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.

you are in effect telling me that I'm wrong, that I should just believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what....and that is foolish.



You think its foolish to form an opinion and I dont care, Ive seen/heard enough to form one


I'm not against formulating an opinion, I'm an opinionated individual you know that, what I AM against is jumping to conclusions based on half assed reporting...which is what you've done here.

remember I don't HAVE a solid opinion on this case yet....YOU do.
You're not listening at ALL, which is why we're talking in circles and you dont wanna give it up

Im not telling you to do anything, you are just pulling this outta thin air, NEVER did I say...."believe the first thing I hear jump to a conclusion from it...and refuse to move from that opinion no matter what" - Now you're being the foolish one


You call it jumping to conclusions on half-assed reporting, I call it forming an opinion after listening to what has been brought to light so far
</P>


I call it being willing to go along with the a conclusion that is consistent with your social and political views, without sufficient facts to back it up.</P>


Its called believing what you desperately want to be true.</P>


Why would someone want that to be true, nobody wants an unarmed teenager shot for no reason??
</P>


If video was released today showing the kid attacking Zimmerman as he was walking back to his car, then pounding his head on the pavement while reaching for Zimmerman's gun....you are going to be very, very dissapointed.</P>


Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??
</P>


I assume that the two got in a fight and Zimmerman pulled out his gun in anger and shot him. </P>


I guess I hope it was a huge accident. That would make me feel slightly better about humanity in general.</P>

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 02:10 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 02:10 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better.

I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 02:11 PM
BTW..Did anyone acknowledge our 3 year anniversary yesterday?

I did not recognize that, happy birthday Thee Thread!

http://gifattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/excited-kid-birthday.gif

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 02:13 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better. I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.</P>


Those were probably Turkey Vultures. They don't go after living things. Unfortunately it was probably a Herron, snake or some kind of burrowing animal that killed the fish.</P>


Sorry to hear that. We can even be attached to our fish. Do you have any defenses set up?</P>

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 02:15 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.
Why did Zimmerman think he was 'suspicious' or 'on drugs' ??

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 02:16 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/sports&amp;id=8606516

Ryan Leaf arrested twice in 4 days for breaking and entering and stealing percs. Its sad how fast these pills can **** you up.

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 02:17 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better.

I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.You should put up a leaf net or a chicken wire type of fence on the top of the water so no predators can get em

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 02:17 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better. I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.</P>


Those were probably Turkey Vultures.* They don't go after living things.* Unfortunately it was probably a Herron, snake or some kind of burrowing animal that killed the fish.</P>


Sorry to hear that.* We can even be attached to our fish.* Do you have any defenses set up?</P>Exactly, that's what I thought Turkey vultures. The Herron is the biggest threat because they can stand right in the pond. I took the netting off 2 weeks ago that I left over the pond for the leaves thru the winter. I guess I will throw the netting over the pond again tonite until I get the motion controlled sprinkler. This sucks, I feel bad. I hope the other two are still in there.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 02:18 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.
Why did Zimmerman think he was 'suspicious' or 'on drugs' ??
</P>


I don't know, but I'm sure you think you do.</P>

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 02:18 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better.

I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.You should put up a leaf net or a chicken wire type of fence on the top of the water so no predators can get em

Good idea.

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 02:19 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better. I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.You should put up a leaf net or a chicken wire type of fence on the top of the water so no predators can get em

</P>


They dig.</P>

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 02:20 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better.

I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.


I'm sorry about that LT...just when you looked like you were starting to get it looking good and making the fish happy :(

Maybe some sort of electric fence? Is that legal where you are? although that won't stop the hawks.

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.
Why did Zimmerman think he was 'suspicious' or 'on drugs' ??
I believe Geraldo Rivera was right on the money, but we live in a politically correct society. It probably was the hood. Its the thuggish style that comes off intimidating to some.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 02:25 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better.

I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.


I'm sorry about that LT...just when you looked like you were starting to get it looking good and making the fish happy :(

Maybe some sort of electric fence?* Is that legal where you are? although that won't stop the hawks.
Thanks guys. I have electric fence for dog, so it must be ok. The pond is not that big so it should be easy to surround. I have no idea how the predator knew they were in there. They rarely come to surface and the water is so god dam green right now, I only see them rarely. Now my sorrow has turned to anger!

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 02:27 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better. I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.You should put up a leaf net or a chicken wire type of fence on the top of the water so no predators can get em

</p>


They dig.</p> Well then hide all of your shovels

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 02:30 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better. I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.You should put up a leaf net or a chicken wire type of fence on the top of the water so no predators can get em

</p>


They dig.</p>But once they burrowed their way to the water, couldnt it drown them? Im not following.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 02:35 PM
Today is a sad day. My wife sent me photo's of big hawks flying around the koi pond this am. I immediately told her to send out the dog and make a ruckus to get rid of them. She didn't want to tell me until a few minutes ago....the hawks were just smelling what ocurred last night. Something got to one of the koi last night it's laying on the side of the pond with it's belly bitten out. I fell terrible, like it's my fault. I should of protected them better. I'm looking into a motion activated sprinkler sys that will blast water on critters that try to get to the pond.You should put up a leaf net or a chicken wire type of fence on the top of the water so no predators can get em

</p>


They dig.</p> Well then hide all of your shovels
:)

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 02:35 PM
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I think Im in love.

lttaylor56
04-03-2012, 02:38 PM
I don't smell anything, but my fish must stink like a $5 *****. How did those rodents know they were there?

I'm going to look at the positive: The green water will help hide them a bit . I will protect the pond and when the water does clear up, they will be safe.

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 02:44 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.
Why did Zimmerman think he was 'suspicious' or 'on drugs' ??


Maybe he was acting like Dave Chappelle's crack head character...we don't know!

(and before you jump to the conclusion that I'm saying he was..I'm not I'm saying it's a possibility)

Kase-1
04-03-2012, 02:47 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.
Why did Zimmerman think he was 'suspicious' or 'on drugs' ??


Maybe he was acting like Dave Chappelle's crack head character...we don't know!

(and before you jump to the conclusion that I'm saying he was..I'm not I'm saying it's a possibility)
And he could have been quickly walking down the street cause it was raining but seeing a person in a hoodie is quite scary

dezzzR
04-03-2012, 02:52 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.
Why did Zimmerman think he was 'suspicious' or 'on drugs' ??


Maybe he was acting like Dave Chappelle's crack head character...we don't know!

(and before you jump to the conclusion that I'm saying he was..I'm not I'm saying it's a possibility)

http://www.xxlmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/tyrone-biggums-featured.jpg"Somebody say crack?"

DavenIII
04-03-2012, 03:02 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.
Why did Zimmerman think he was 'suspicious' or 'on drugs' ??


Maybe he was acting like Dave Chappelle's crack head character...we don't know!

(and before you jump to the conclusion that I'm saying he was..I'm not I'm saying it's a possibility)
And he could have been quickly walking down the street cause it was raining

He totally could have been, as I've said ad nauseam I'm not making assumptions one way or another

Morehead State
04-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Id be horrified and shocked, is that something you're hoping for??


I would not at all be surprised is what I'm saying....

The media WANTS Zimmerman to be a racist and they are reporting on it that way, but there is not factual evidence so far that shows that to be the case in my opinion.
Why did Zimmerman think he was 'suspicious' or 'on drugs' ??


Maybe he was acting like Dave Chappelle's crack head character...we don't know!

(and before you jump to the conclusion that I'm saying he was..I'm not I'm saying it's a possibility)
And he could have been quickly walking down the street cause it was raining but seeing a person in a hoodie is quite scary
</P>


When I put a hoodie on and look in the mirror, I get scared of myself.</P>

dezzzR
04-04-2012, 10:37 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline"><div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{&quot;tn&quot;:1,&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</div></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">?"Very good chance I will be back by the start of the season!!" - Travis Beckum[:O]</span></h6>

dezzzR
04-04-2012, 10:43 AM
The rangers looked real good last night. Hope King Henrys wrist is good. Mcdonagh is an animal. Looking very strong, hope they can keep it up.

dezzzR
04-04-2012, 11:02 AM
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
</h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"> <span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">The New York Giants (http://www.facebook.com/newyorkgiants)
did in fact meet with Alshon Jeffrey one on one on Monday. Don't count
out the Giants going WR in Round 1, with Cruz and Nicks' contracts set
to expire over the next 2 seasons...</span></h6>

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 11:07 AM
<H6 class="uiStreamMessage uiStreamHeadline">
<DIV class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft='{"tn":1,"type":2}'>In Reese We Trust (http://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Reese-We-Trust/204765974855)</DIV></H6>
<H6 class=uiStreamMessage data-ft='{"type":1}'><SPAN class=messageBody data-ft='{"type":3}'>?"Very good chance I will be back by the start of the season!!" - Travis Beckum[:O]</SPAN></H6>


</P>


I appreciate his competitive nature and desire to play....but, come down buddy. We arent going to need you week 1 or anything (or at all for that matter =P )</P>

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 11:17 AM
You guys see Antrel Rolle's tattoo....****ING SICK!!!!
i'd post it, but i think the only photo is on Facebook.

dezzzR
04-04-2012, 11:31 AM
You guys see Antrel Rolle's tattoo....****ING SICK!!!!
i'd post it, but i think the only photo is on Facebook.yea i saw it on kases fb. Its ok. I like the side of the ring, that looks bad ***, but is that himself over his heart?

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 11:38 AM
You guys see Antrel Rolle's tattoo....****ING SICK!!!!
i'd post it, but i think the only photo is on Facebook.yea i saw it on kases fb. Its ok. I like the side of the ring, that looks bad ***, but is that himself over his heart?
</P>


I couldnt tell...I think it was just a faceless player, right? It was all the same tattoo though, so it must have been a very complete design. </P>

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 12:03 PM
The rangers looked real good last night. Hope King Henrys wrist is good. Mcdonagh is an animal. Looking very strong, hope they can keep it up.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/526275_395489580475944_100000447159515_1365765_746 659050_n.jpg

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 12:06 PM
You guys see Antrel Rolle's tattoo....****ING SICK!!!!
i'd post it, but i think the only photo is on Facebook.I posted a pic in the 'Trels Tattoo' thread but here it is for the lazies

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/306120_10150919931334377_418837579376_13077584_598 744501_n.jpg

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 12:27 PM
</P>


I watched part of the NYR/Philly game last night at the bar. Quite the shellacking, as my father would say.
Good luck going into the playoffs. im sure i'll watch, as it's 10000x better than NBA playoffs in my eyes lol.</P>

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 12:31 PM
</p>


I watched part of the NYR/Philly game last night at the bar. Quite the shellacking, as my father would say.
Good luck going into the playoffs. im sure i'll watch, as it's 10000x better than NBA playoffs in my eyes lol.</p>It was a WILD game filled with fights, hard hits, and super dirty/chippy play. It started out amazingly, the Rangers were up 5-1 and then Philthy kept nipping at our heels but thank goodness for King Henrik.

We've been playing playoff hockey since February, I know im horribly biased but Thee NYR has gotta be the most exciting team to watch (for a hockey fan, and if we scored more we'd be the perfect team for the on the fence fan) Rangers are always playing tough, physical, fight-filled games, hell our Captain is the best checker on the team (the NHL equivalent of a seeing a Sasquatch, LOL)

dezzzR
04-04-2012, 12:33 PM
The rangers looked real good last night. Hope King Henrys wrist is good. Mcdonagh is an animal. Looking very strong, hope they can keep it up.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/526275_395489580475944_100000447159515_1365765_746 659050_n.jpgIm loving our defense too man. They all have heart, and they will all lay you out.

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 12:33 PM
Did anyone see the Skiba video talking about the new gear?
He said something to the effect of "we'll be using the same pants this year for both home and away, in preperation for 2013, that's all I can say about that...right now"

to me, that means the Red jerseys, or the possibility of throwbacks next year....or both....

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 12:38 PM
The rangers looked real good last night. Hope King Henrys wrist is good. Mcdonagh is an animal. Looking very strong, hope they can keep it up.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/526275_395489580475944_100000447159515_1365765_746 659050_n.jpgIm loving our defense too man. They all have heart, and they will all lay you out.
Our Defense is ridiculous, we keep pulling layers out of nowhere (the farm system) and I LOOOOVE the fact that anyone on the team will lay down and block a shot, hell even Gabo and Richards have hit the ice to stop a shot and clog a shooting/passing lane

Just like the Giants, the Rangers have 100% bought into the 'team' concept... Id give anything to experience a Giants AND Rangers victory parade(s) in the same lifetime, let alone the same year!!!!

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 12:40 PM
Did anyone see the Skiba video talking about the new gear?
He said something to the effect of "we'll be using the same pants this year for both home and away, in preperation for 2013, that's all I can say about that...right now"

to me, that means the Red jerseys, or the possibility of throwbacks next year....or both....F' the red jerseys, lets bring back the 86 or 91 throwbacks, old school helmets and all...... I LOVE the NY but I miss seeing that '<u>GIANTS</u>' on the side

dezzzR
04-04-2012, 12:54 PM
Did anyone see the Skiba video talking about the new gear?
He said something to the effect of "we'll be using the same pants this year for both home and away, in preperation for 2013, that's all I can say about that...right now"

to me, that means the Red jerseys, or the possibility of throwbacks next year....or both....F' the red jerseys, lets bring back the 86 or 91 throwbacks, old school helmets and all...... I LOVE the NY but I miss seeing that '<u>GIANTS</u>' on the side
Yea i dont see what the big deal is. Every team has their throwback games. Why not the Giants?

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 12:56 PM
Did anyone see the Skiba video talking about the new gear?
He said something to the effect of "we'll be using the same pants this year for both home and away, in preperation for 2013, that's all I can say about that...right now"

to me, that means the Red jerseys, or the possibility of throwbacks next year....or both....F' the red jerseys, lets bring back the 86 or 91 throwbacks, old school helmets and all...... I LOVE the NY but I miss seeing that '<u>GIANTS</u>' on the side
Yea i dont see what the big deal is. Every team has their throwback games. Why not the Giants?
I think the red ones were our 'throwbacks' back to the old days of the 50s (I think) when they used to wear them

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 01:17 PM
Yea i dont see what the big deal is. Every team has their throwback games. Why not the Giants?
</P>


I wear them in Madden all the time =P</P>


also when playing online, i used to wear the red ones against ppl who were wearing red home jerseys in an effort to confused them while passing lol</P>

dezzzR
04-04-2012, 01:28 PM
The rangers looked real good last night. Hope King Henrys wrist is good. Mcdonagh is an animal. Looking very strong, hope they can keep it up.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/526275_395489580475944_100000447159515_1365765_746 659050_n.jpgIm loving our defense too man. They all have heart, and they will all lay you out.
Our Defense is ridiculous, we keep pulling layers out of nowhere (the farm system) and I LOOOOVE the fact that anyone on the team will lay down and block a shot, hell even Gabo and Richards have hit the ice to stop a shot and clog a shooting/passing lane

Just like the Giants, the Rangers have 100% bought into the 'team' concept... Id give anything to experience a Giants AND Rangers victory parade(s) in the same lifetime, let alone the same year!!!!
You saw that flyer trying to get in richards face for no reason in the 2nd? That pissed me off. Starts jawing off, Richards ignored it, guy starts checking him in the mid section, Richards hits him in the face and then he gets swarmed by Rangers, and a highsticking penalty(??lol)Anyway, we scored a on that powerplay so justice was served.

Im really impressed with Mcdonagh though. If you try to pass him on the boards he will destroy you or pin you to the boards until help arrives. He came up out of nowhere on that first goal too.

dezzzR
04-04-2012, 01:29 PM
Yea i dont see what the big deal is. Every team has their throwback games. Why not the Giants?
</p>


I wear them in Madden all the time =P</p>


also when playing online, i used to wear the red ones against ppl who were wearing red home jerseys in an effort to confused them while passing lol</p>ughh that must be confusing as hell. lol

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 01:39 PM
The rangers looked real good last night. Hope King Henrys wrist is good. Mcdonagh is an animal. Looking very strong, hope they can keep it up.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s320x320/526275_395489580475944_100000447159515_1365765_746 659050_n.jpgIm loving our defense too man. They all have heart, and they will all lay you out.
Our Defense is ridiculous, we keep pulling layers out of nowhere (the farm system) and I LOOOOVE the fact that anyone on the team will lay down and block a shot, hell even Gabo and Richards have hit the ice to stop a shot and clog a shooting/passing lane

Just like the Giants, the Rangers have 100% bought into the 'team' concept... Id give anything to experience a Giants AND Rangers victory parade(s) in the same lifetime, let alone the same year!!!!
You saw that flyer trying to get in richards face for no reason in the 2nd? That pissed me off. Starts jawing off, Richards ignored it, guy starts checking him in the mid section, Richards hits him in the face and then he gets swarmed by Rangers, and a highsticking penalty(??lol)Anyway, we scored a on that powerplay so justice was served.

Im really impressed with Mcdonagh though. If you try to pass him on the boards he will destroy you or pin you to the boards until help arrives. He came up out of nowhere on that first goal too.
Yea I forget which flyer it was, but I remember that thinking 'Everybody on the Rangers drops the gloves, is Richards bout to follow suit??'

McD has been outstanding this season, his defense is tighter than a ducks culo and his offense is something we havent seen from a D-Man in a minute!!!

I LOVE this team.... And Torts doesnt even have to say a thing, you can read his face like a book, its HYSTERICAL

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 02:47 PM
Well it looks like the Philthy Iggles are signing Demetruis Bell to a 5yr deal, looks like theyre trying to re-create the Bills OL
<a href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82813fb2/article/eagles-agree-to-terms-on-fiveyear-deal-with-ot-bell">
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82813fb2/article/eagles-agree-to-terms-on-fiveyear-deal-with-ot-bell</a>

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 02:47 PM
you guys planning on buying any jerseys this year?

I'm probably going to get a Cruz jersey and a JPP jersey.
Tried to get both this past year, but couldnt find them ANYWHERE lol

Kase-1
04-04-2012, 02:51 PM
you guys planning on buying any jerseys this year?

I'm probably going to get a Cruz jersey and a JPP jersey.
Tried to get both this past year, but couldnt find them ANYWHERE lolDef getting a JPP jersey, he's a BEAST who is gonna be with us for a while and he plays my fav position.

Im gonna wait on Nicks or Cruz til they sign contracts, since both are FA/RFA's after this season

Not sure who else, havent really thought of it yet

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 02:55 PM
you guys planning on buying any jerseys this year?

I'm probably going to get a Cruz jersey and a JPP jersey.
Tried to get both this past year, but couldnt find them ANYWHERE lolDef getting a JPP jersey, he's a BEAST who is gonna be with us for a while and he plays my fav position.

Im gonna wait on Nicks or Cruz til they sign contracts, since both are FA/RFA's after this season

Not sure who else, havent really thought of it yet
</P>


I already got a Nicks jersey, though I might replace it after the season. I just don't like the material. I'm sticking to ebay from now on! lol</P>

lawl
04-04-2012, 06:11 PM
you guys planning on buying any jerseys this year?

I'm probably going to get a Cruz jersey and a JPP jersey.
Tried to get both this past year, but couldnt find them ANYWHERE lolDef getting a JPP jersey, he's a BEAST who is gonna be with us for a while and he plays my fav position.

Im gonna wait on Nicks or Cruz til they sign contracts, since both are FA/RFA's after this season

Not sure who else, havent really thought of it yet


Nicks has another year til FA.

Idk whether that's fortunate or unfortunate for you? Lol

JPizzack
04-04-2012, 06:47 PM
Holy ****!! how come I never heard about this...and it's OLD news!!

http://deadspin.com/386521/karl-malone-once-liked-them-very-very-young

I never liked this POS, and now I have even more reason.

Apparently, Karl Malone knocked up this chick when he was 20, she was...wait for it....13...THIRTEEN!!! But actually....the child was born in May 1984, so she was ....TWELVE...TWELVE ****ING YEARS OLD!!!! WTF!!!!

Now the other part: That child is now an OT on the Eagles. He was drafted in 08. Has never played though, as far as i know. Demetrius Bell.

lawl
04-04-2012, 07:06 PM
Holy ****!! how come I never heard about this...and it's OLD news!!

http://deadspin.com/386521/karl-malone-once-liked-them-very-very-young

I never liked this POS, and now I have even more reason.

Apparently, Karl Malone knocked up this chick when he was 20, she was...wait for it....13...THIRTEEN!!! But actually....the child was born in May 1984, so she was ....TWELVE...TWELVE ****ING YEARS OLD!!!! WTF!!!!

Now the other part: That child is now an OT on the Eagles. He was drafted in 08. Has never played though, as far as i know. Demetrius Bell.</P>


</P>


If theres grass on the field, play ball!</P>


Seriously though, 12? thats nuts.</P>


On a side note I was supposed to go to LA tomorrow morning for work but the job got cancelled, so pissed.</P>

Morehead State
04-04-2012, 09:19 PM
Holy ****!! how come I never heard about this...and it's OLD news!!

http://deadspin.com/386521/karl-malone-once-liked-them-very-very-young

I never liked this POS, and now I have even more reason.

Apparently, Karl Malone knocked up this chick when he was 20, she was...wait for it....13...THIRTEEN!!! But actually....the child was born in May 1984, so she was ....TWELVE...TWELVE ****ING YEARS OLD!!!! WTF!!!!

Now the other part: That child is now an OT on the Eagles. He was drafted in 08. Has never played though, as far as i know. Demetrius Bell.</P>


</P>


If theres grass on the field, play ball!</P>


Seriously though, 12? thats nuts.</P>


On a side note I was supposed to go to LA tomorrow morning for work but the job got cancelled, so pissed.</P>


</P>


I used to love 12 year old girls.......when I was 11.</P>

lawl
04-04-2012, 10:59 PM
Holy ****!! how come I never heard about this...and it's OLD news!!

http://deadspin.com/386521/karl-malone-once-liked-them-very-very-young

I never liked this POS, and now I have even more reason.

Apparently, Karl Malone knocked up this chick when he was 20, she was...wait for it....13...THIRTEEN!!! But actually....the child was born in May 1984, so she was ....TWELVE...TWELVE ****ING YEARS OLD!!!! WTF!!!!

Now the other part: That child is now an OT on the Eagles. He was drafted in 08. Has never played though, as far as i know. Demetrius Bell.</P>


*</P>


If theres grass on the field, play ball!</P>


Seriously though, 12?* thats nuts.</P>


On a side note I was supposed to go to LA tomorrow morning for work but the job got cancelled, so pissed.</P>


</P>


I used to love 12 year old girls.......when I was 11.</P>

Used to? I thought you were always going to be a kid at heart?

[;)]

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 08:32 AM
lol, you read the most ridiculous **** online, i swear.
on reddit they had a TIL (today I learned...) that linked to a wikipedia article about Ryan Gosling...
said that when he was a kid, he loved the movie Rambo: First Blood so much that he brought a bunch of steak knives to school once and threw them at other kids. lmao
(nobody was seriously hurt, but he was suspended)</P>

DavenIII
04-05-2012, 10:20 AM
Holy ****!! how come I never heard about this...and it's OLD news!!

http://deadspin.com/386521/karl-malone-once-liked-them-very-very-young

I never liked this POS, and now I have even more reason.

Apparently, Karl Malone knocked up this chick when he was 20, she was...wait for it....13...THIRTEEN!!! But actually....the child was born in May 1984, so she was ....TWELVE...TWELVE ****ING YEARS OLD!!!! WTF!!!!

Now the other part: That child is now an OT on the Eagles. He was drafted in 08. Has never played though, as far as i know. Demetrius Bell.

probably the best thing that ever happened to the girl in retrospect though, the baby daddy is a pro basketball player...son is a pro football player...she's set.

also what's a little worrying to me is that 12-20 is 8 years and my last girl was 19 when I was 30 that's 11 years lol.

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 10:30 AM
also what's a little worrying to me is that 12-20 is 8 years and my last girl was 19 when I was 30 that's 11 years lol.
</P>


19?? jeez Daven.....
i wont even talk to a girl younger than 22ish cuz im usually not even on the same wavelength as them lol</P>

DavenIII
04-05-2012, 10:52 AM
also what's a little worrying to me is that 12-20 is 8 years and my last girl was 19 when I was 30 that's 11 years lol.
</p>


19?? jeez Daven.....
i wont even talk to a girl younger than 22ish cuz im usually not even on the same wavelength as them lol</p>

I'm not on the same wavelength as anyone....so it doesn't really matter :P

the not drinking thing was annoying to work around though.

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 10:57 AM
also what's a little worrying to me is that 12-20 is 8 years and my last girl was 19 when I was 30 that's 11 years lol.
</P>


19?? jeez Daven.....
i wont even talk to a girl younger than 22ish cuz im usually not even on the same wavelength as them lol</P>




I'm not on the same wavelength as anyone....so it doesn't really matter :P

the not drinking thing was annoying to work around though.
</P>


fuuuuuuck THAT!!! lol
</P>

Morehead State
04-05-2012, 11:14 AM
also what's a little worrying to me is that 12-20 is 8 years and my last girl was 19 when I was 30 that's 11 years lol.
</P>


19?? jeez Daven.....
i wont even talk to a girl younger than 22ish cuz im usually not even on the same wavelength as them lol</P>


</P>


When I was 28 I was dating a girl who was 22. It seems like not much of a difference but it my case it was. A guy I met at the time gave me a great peice of advice...</P>


"You don't want to go out with a girl who's going where you've already been."</P>

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 11:50 AM
also what's a little worrying to me is that 12-20 is 8 years and my last girl was 19 when I was 30 that's 11 years lol.
</P>


19?? jeez Daven.....
i wont even talk to a girl younger than 22ish cuz im usually not even on the same wavelength as them lol</P>


</P>


When I was 28 I was dating a girl who was 22. It seems like not much of a difference but it my case it was. A guy I met at the time gave me a great peice of advice...</P>


"You don't want to go out with a girl who's going where you've already been."</P>


</P>


pretty much.</P>

lttaylor56
04-05-2012, 12:28 PM
also what's a little worrying to me is that 12-20 is 8 years and my last girl was 19 when I was 30 that's 11 years lol.
</P>


19?? jeez Daven.....
i wont even talk to a girl younger than 22ish cuz im usually not even on the same wavelength as them lol</P>


</P>


When I was 28 I was dating a girl who was 22.* It seems like not much of a difference but it my case it was.** A guy I met at the time gave me a great peice of advice...</P>


"You don't want to go out with a girl who's going where you've already been."</P>


</P>


pretty much.</P>I agree and if she's never been there before, I'll take her there!

dezzzR
04-05-2012, 12:39 PM
what are you guys doing for easter?

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 12:50 PM
what are you guys doing for easter?
</P>


shutup Dezz!! lol

idk, I assume i'll wake up hungover....make some coffee....drink it....and watch movies and play video games all day lol
I dont do much on sundays....</P>

DavenIII
04-05-2012, 12:52 PM
what are you guys doing for easter?


Observing passover.

dezzzR
04-05-2012, 01:01 PM
what are you guys doing for easter?


Observing passover.
Sorry my hebrew friend.[:)] What are you doing?

dezzzR
04-05-2012, 01:02 PM
cerveli sent down to the minors. lame

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 01:04 PM
cerveli sent down to the minors. lame
</P>


why is that lame?
Just cuz he's a fan favorite doesnt mean that he's one of the best options lol</P>

dezzzR
04-05-2012, 01:12 PM
cerveli sent down to the minors. lame
</p>


why is that lame?
Just cuz he's a fan favorite doesnt mean that he's one of the best options lol</p>i like his intensity. im pretty sure they would of sent the new catcher from the giants down but he was out of options.

DavenIII
04-05-2012, 01:19 PM
what are you guys doing for easter?


Observing passover.
Sorry my hebrew friend.[:)] What are you doing?


No need to be sorry, I usually have a good time at our family seder, the only thing that sucks is no beer for 8 days (which is of course every year in sync with one of my better friends Birthdays and they are going to AC)

But besides that it's not "that" bad.

(here's a site that has some of the rules....they are oddly specific so it takes a while to explain them lol.)
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/kosher1.html

Morehead State
04-05-2012, 01:33 PM
I'm sure all of you will disagree, but there's nothing better than Masters week.

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 01:39 PM
I'm sure all of you will disagree, but there's nothing better than Masters week.</P>


but only because it's the first week of baseball....not because anyone cares about golf or the master.
=]</P>

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 01:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7zXSH.jpg

dezzzR
04-05-2012, 01:42 PM
I'm sure all of you will disagree, but there's nothing better than Masters week.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/05/barack-obama-augusta-national-golf-club_n_1405970.html

anything for those votes.....

Morehead State
04-05-2012, 02:08 PM
I'm sure all of you will disagree, but there's nothing better than Masters week.</P>


but only because it's the first week of baseball....not because anyone cares about golf or the master.
=]</P>


</P>


Friggin kids today!</P>

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 02:14 PM
I'm sure all of you will disagree, but there's nothing better than Masters week.</P>


but only because it's the first week of baseball....not because anyone cares about golf or the master.
=]</P>


</P>


Friggin kids today!</P>


</P>


I don't understand why they televise hobbies like golf
They dont have a show about putting together model airplanes....or a show about how to buy sports memorabilia....or a show about a guy who likes to run around a track.
</P>

dezzzR
04-05-2012, 02:21 PM
I'm sure all of you will disagree, but there's nothing better than Masters week.</p>


but only because it's the first week of baseball....not because anyone cares about golf or the master.
=]</p>


</p>


Friggin kids today!</p>


</p>


I don't understand why they televise hobbies like golf
They dont have a show about putting together model airplanes....or a show about how to buy sports memorabilia....or a show about a guy who likes to run around a track.
</p>I used to make model planes, and ships. Very fun
lol I was in toys r us the other day buying a toy for my nephews bday and I passed the lego section. Kids are so lucky today!!!

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 02:24 PM
I'm sure all of you will disagree, but there's nothing better than Masters week.</P>


but only because it's the first week of baseball....not because anyone cares about golf or the master.
=]</P>


</P>


Friggin kids today!</P>


</P>


I don't understand why they televise hobbies like golf
They dont have a show about putting together model airplanes....or a show about how to buy sports memorabilia....or a show about a guy who likes to run around a track.
</P>


I used to make model planes, and ships. Very fun
lol I was in toys r us the other day buying a toy for my nephews bday and I passed the lego section. Kids are so lucky today!!!
</P>


Yea i had a bunch of legos when i was a kid. what an awesome toy legos are!! i must have had endless hours of entertainment back then lol</P>

Morehead State
04-05-2012, 02:31 PM
Masters are awesome and children should be seen and not heard. (or read on a MB)

dezzzR
04-05-2012, 02:36 PM
Masters are awesome and children should be seen and not heard. (or read on a MB)You are seeing what we say.[:D]

Morehead State
04-05-2012, 02:37 PM
Masters are awesome and children should be seen and not heard. (or read on a MB)You are seeing what we say.[:D]
</P>


Thus my additional comment.</P>

DavenIII
04-05-2012, 02:42 PM
I don't understand why they televise hobbies like golf
They dont have a show about putting together model airplanes....or a show about how to buy sports memorabilia....or a show about a guy who likes to run around a track.
</p>

actually they have shows about all those as well.

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 02:52 PM
Masters are awesome and children should be seen and not heard. (or read on a MB)</P>


Even my father, an avid golfer, watches baseball this week =P

When I was a kid, my father was friends with a few former pros who ran alot of charity tournaments and such, and every year 1 of them was involved with a celebrity tournament. And I begged my dad to try to go, because Michael Jordan was playing, and he actually did get to go and play, but he didnt play with MJ =(
Next week in school, a chick brought in a photo of her dad with MJ, cuz HE got to play with him instead</P>

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 02:54 PM
I don't understand why they televise hobbies like golf
They dont have a show about putting together model airplanes....or a show about how to buy sports memorabilia....or a show about a guy who likes to run around a track.
</P>




actually they have shows about all those as well.
</P>


ahh well then it totally makes sense that they air a hobby like golf on television. lol</P>

lttaylor56
04-05-2012, 03:59 PM
eating lasagna

lttaylor56
04-05-2012, 04:03 PM
I'm sure all of you will disagree, but there's nothing better than Masters week.</p>


but only because it's the first week of baseball....not because anyone cares about golf or the master.
=]</p>


</p>


Friggin kids today!</p>


</p>


I don't understand why they televise hobbies like golf
They dont have a show about putting together model airplanes....or a show about how to buy sports memorabilia....or a show about a guy who likes to run around a track.
</p>I used to make model planes, and ships. Very fun
lol I was in toys r us the other day buying a toy for my nephews bday and I passed the lego section. Kids are so lucky today!!!
I made an entire train villiage , glues them all together , painted, etc. added grass, telephone poles, lines, etc. It was a lionell set. That's one way to kill the winter.

they make shows about anything these days. Hillbilly fisherman, catching giant catfish? Low class tow truck companies...oh man.

JPizzack
04-05-2012, 04:04 PM
****in' Valverde...couldnt close out the red sox...what a worthless bastage!!

lttaylor56
04-06-2012, 09:21 AM
I just found out what's up with the nyg hats. Contract is split w nfl and Nike and this co. Called new era. New era has contract for hats, starting with the draft day cap.

JPizzack
04-06-2012, 11:08 AM
I just found out what's up with the nyg hats. Contract is split w nfl and Nike and this co. Called new era. New era has contract for hats, starting with the draft day cap.</P>


lol "this company called New Era", you mean THEE biggest hat company in the world? the one who has made every MLB hat for the past god knows how many years? =P
I dont get it though. Both companies lost the contract?</P>

dezzzR
04-06-2012, 11:29 AM
half dayyy, but its dragging....

lttaylor56
04-06-2012, 11:36 AM
Lol, so you heard of them?

JPizzack
04-06-2012, 11:41 AM
Lol, so you heard of them?</P>


NOPE!!!</P>

Kase-1
04-06-2012, 12:40 PM
I love the Rangers coach, John Tortorella

It's a cheap, dirty hit," adding, "I wonder what would happen if we did
it to their two whining stars." He called the Penguins "one of the most
arrogant organizations in the league," saying that "they whine about
this stuff all the time, and look what happens." And then, one final
shot: "It's ridiculous, but they'll whine about something else over
there, won't they? Starting with their two ****ing stars."

On Crosby: "This guy gets away with too much in my opinion, whines to the refs all day and all night. Itís a joke."

JPizzack
04-06-2012, 12:46 PM
this kid I work with has asked 3 times, THREE separate times to swap vacation time with me this year....im like..."dude, ive literally booked 3 vacations this year...this is the only year ive done this!! I cant swap time with you!! I'm sorry youre time didnt pan out...but youve asked me to swap ALL THREE!! no, not a chance, im sorry...."

/facepalm.....i didnt even put the requests in till the end of february lol

JPizzack
04-06-2012, 01:37 PM
I love the Rangers coach, John Tortorella

It's a cheap, dirty hit," adding, "I wonder what would happen if we did it to their two whining stars." He called the Penguins "one of the most arrogant organizations in the league," saying that "they whine about this stuff all the time, and look what happens." And then, one final shot: "It's ridiculous, but they'll whine about something else over there, won't they? Starting with their two ****ing stars."

On Crosby: "This guy gets away with too much in my opinion, whines to the refs all day and all night. Itís a joke."
</P>


So, why doesn't someone just take him those 2 out every game? If it becomes commonplace, it won't be nearly as controversial. lol
Whos the Rangers' enforcer?? lol</P>

Kase-1
04-06-2012, 01:58 PM
I love the Rangers coach, John Tortorella

It's a cheap, dirty hit," adding, "I wonder what would happen if we did it to their two whining stars." He called the Penguins "one of the most arrogant organizations in the league," saying that "they whine about this stuff all the time, and look what happens." And then, one final shot: "It's ridiculous, but they'll whine about something else over there, won't they? Starting with their two ****ing stars."

On Crosby: "This guy gets away with too much in my opinion, whines to the refs all day and all night. Itís a joke."

</p>


So, why doesn't someone just take him those 2 out every game? If it becomes commonplace, it won't be nearly as controversial. lol
Whos the Rangers' enforcer?? lol</p>Well just about everyone on the Rangers drops the gloves, but the 2 that
do it the most would be Mike Rupp and Brandon Prust... Im pretty sure
Prust leads the NHL in fights. I just checked on
http://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/players/ (Well%20just%20about%20everyone%20on%20the%20Range rs%20drops%20the%20gloves,%20but%20the%202%20that% 20do%20it%20the%20most%20would%20be%20Mike%20Rupp% 20and%20Brandon%20Prust...%20Im%20pretty%20sure%20 Prust%20leads%20the%20NHL%20in%20fights.%20%20I%20 just%20checked%20on%20http://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/players/)

And the Rangers actually have 3 guys in the top 10 in fights with Prust (20), Rupp (13), and Bickel (12).... We got a group of a bunch of tough bastids

JPizzack
04-09-2012, 08:29 AM
*cricket* *cricket*</P>

Morehead State
04-09-2012, 08:47 AM
*cricket* *cricket*</P>


</P>


Is it football season yet?</P>


Baseball already sucks.</P>

JPizzack
04-09-2012, 09:22 AM
*cricket* *cricket*</P>


</P>


Is it football season yet?</P>


Baseball already sucks.</P>


</P>


ugh, i've only been home to watch 1 game so far lol....(i havent missed much yet lol....i assume you feel the same)</P>

Kase-1
04-09-2012, 10:00 AM
*cricket* *cricket*</p>


</p>


Is it football season yet?</p>


Baseball already sucks.</p>Screw baseball, hockey playoffs are about to start

JPizzack
04-09-2012, 10:12 AM
I'd watch NHL playoffs....but i know i'd forget. lol</P>


thats what happens when you dont closely follow a sport.</P>

dezzzR
04-09-2012, 11:37 AM
I love the Rangers coach, John Tortorella

It's a cheap, dirty hit," adding, "I wonder what would happen if we did it to their two whining stars." He called the Penguins "one of the most arrogant organizations in the league," saying that "they whine about this stuff all the time, and look what happens." And then, one final shot: "It's ridiculous, but they'll whine about something else over there, won't they? Starting with their two ****ing stars."

On Crosby: "This guy gets away with too much in my opinion, whines to the refs all day and all night. Itís a joke."

</p>


So, why doesn't someone just take him those 2 out every game? If it becomes commonplace, it won't be nearly as controversial. lol
<u>Whos the Rangers' enforcer??</u> lol</p>Well just about everyone on the Rangers drops the gloves, but the 2 that
do it the most would be Mike Rupp and Brandon Prust... Im pretty sure
Prust leads the NHL in fights. I just checked on
http://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/players/ (Well%20just%20about%20everyone%20on%20the%20Range rs%20drops%20the%20gloves,%20but%20the%202%20that% 20do%20it%20the%20most%20would%20be%20Mike%20Rupp% 20and%20Brandon%20Prust...%20Im%20pretty%20sure%20 Prust%20leads%20the%20NHL%20in%20fights.%20%20I%20 just%20checked%20on%20http://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/players/)

And the Rangers actually have 3 guys in the top 10 in fights with Prust (20), Rupp (13), and Bickel (12).... We got a group of a bunch of tough bastids
Everyone can enforce. haha. Prust is the man. Stall too. Yea pretty much everyone on the team
But the thing with Crosby is (imo) the NHL is protecting their poster child. Hes a baby. I also read the NHL is trying to discourage fighting as well. Has Crosby ever dropped his gloves??

Kase-1
04-09-2012, 11:40 AM
I'd watch NHL playoffs....but i know i'd forget. lol</p>


thats what happens when you dont closely follow a sport.</p>Like me with Baseball and Basketball

Kase-1
04-09-2012, 11:49 AM
I love the Rangers coach, John Tortorella

It's a cheap, dirty hit," adding, "I wonder what would happen if we did it to their two whining stars." He called the Penguins "one of the most arrogant organizations in the league," saying that "they whine about this stuff all the time, and look what happens." And then, one final shot: "It's ridiculous, but they'll whine about something else over there, won't they? Starting with their two ****ing stars."

On Crosby: "This guy gets away with too much in my opinion, whines to the refs all day and all night. Itís a joke."

</p>


So, why doesn't someone just take him those 2 out every game? If it becomes commonplace, it won't be nearly as controversial. lol
<u>Whos the Rangers' enforcer??</u> lol</p>Well just about everyone on the Rangers drops the gloves, but the 2 that
do it the most would be Mike Rupp and Brandon Prust... Im pretty sure
Prust leads the NHL in fights. I just checked on
http://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/players/ (Well%20just%20about%20everyone%20on%20the%20Range rs%20drops%20the%20gloves,%20but%20the%202%20that% 20do%20it%20the%20most%20would%20be%20Mike%20Rupp% 20and%20Brandon%20Prust...%20Im%20pretty%20sure%20 Prust%20leads%20the%20NHL%20in%20fights.%20%20I%20 just%20checked%20on%20http://www.hockeyfights.com/leaders/players/)

And the Rangers actually have 3 guys in the top 10 in fights with Prust (20), Rupp (13), and Bickel (12).... We got a group of a bunch of tough bastids
Everyone can enforce. haha. Prust is the man. Stall too. Yea pretty much everyone on the team
But the thing with Crosby is (imo) the NHL is protecting their poster child. Hes a baby. I also read the NHL is trying to discourage fighting as well. Has Crosby ever dropped his gloves??
Prust is one of my favorites on the team, he's got a great motor and like everyone currently on the Rangers, he's a team 1st player.... Oh and he was excellent on 247

Staal is good, but Im more of a Girardi and McDonough fan, Staal is a phenomenonal defender, but he's a little soft for my taste

Argh, the NHL discourages fighting and then players get dangerous with the cheap shots and stick penalties. Now, you know that if you cheapshot the opponents star player, the next time you step on the ice you're getting pounded into oblivion. Fighting keeps the injuries and cheap shots to a minimal