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lttaylor56
08-01-2012, 11:28 AM
Welcome Back Buddy!

Morehead State
08-01-2012, 11:46 AM
trying to tell others how to grow their facial hair. How elite of you. Bloomhead State.
Trying to figure out how some friendly banter between friends concerns you.

antimorehead
08-01-2012, 11:51 AM
Trying to figure out how some friendly banter between friends concerns you.Well, you did send me a friend request the other day.

Morehead State
08-01-2012, 12:12 PM
Well, you did send me a friend request the other day.
Well even though your obsession with me is a bit creepy, I know whats happened to hookers who have crossed you.

antimorehead
08-01-2012, 12:18 PM
Well even though your obsession with me is a bit creepy, I know whats happened to hookers who have crossed you.Stop sending me mixed messages man!

hopefully my old gets approved today.

Morehead State
08-01-2012, 12:25 PM
My daughter sent me this video. This guy is a riot.
http://vimeo.com/42209600

lttaylor56
08-01-2012, 12:32 PM
Sash suspended for 4 games for performance enhancing drug violation. He claims he took Adderall in March 2012 to help him with public speaking.
Does anyone know which method the nfl uses for their test? It sounds like hair follicle if they are picking up stuff from 4-5 months ago.

JPizzack
08-01-2012, 12:42 PM
Sash suspended for 4 games for performance enhancing drug violation. He claims he took Adderall in March 2012 to help him with public speaking.
Does anyone know which method the nfl uses for their test? It sounds like hair follicle if they are picking up stuff from 4-5 months ago.

I still dont understand how Adderall is considered a PED....
the only thing I experienced when I took it was ultra-focus, and motivation to be productive. lol
I cleaned my room, washed my car, and tidied up the garage lol


Whaaaatever....I'm not the NFL, I dont make the rules. but it's a bull**** suspension....

Morehead State
08-01-2012, 12:45 PM
I still dont understand how Adderall is considered a PED....
the only thing I experienced when I took it was ultra-focus, and motivation to be productive. lol
I cleaned my room, washed my car, and tidied up the garage lol


Whaaaatever....I'm not the NFL, I dont make the rules. but it's a bull**** suspension....
Where can I get some of that ****....my office is a friggin mess!!

antimorehead
08-01-2012, 12:50 PM
CBs coach Peter Giunta indicated S Antrel Rolle will be back at nickel CB with Terrell Thomas out, though he conceded that's not ideal. - From Ralph Vacchiano

JPizzack
08-01-2012, 12:52 PM
Where can I get some of that ****....my office is a friggin mess!!

I dont know how you get it prescribed to you nowadays....when they started diagnosing young adults with ADHD, it was fairly common.

But there's a stigma attached to the drug now apparently, because college kids all over the country were getting it, and the amount of school work you can get done with adderall is awesome. SO OF COURSE when somethign gets popular, it's immediately considered bad....

I only used it cuz my friend had some. I took it the morning of all my finals one semester, and got home and it was still working lol

Morehead State
08-01-2012, 12:55 PM
I dont know how you get it prescribed to you nowadays....when they started diagnosing young adults with ADHD, it was fairly common.

But there's a stigma attached to the drug now apparently, because college kids all over the country were getting it, and the amount of school work you can get done with adderall is awesome. SO OF COURSE when somethign gets popular, it's immediately considered bad....

I only used it cuz my friend had some. I took it the morning of all my finals one semester, and got home and it was still working lol
I was prescribed Strattera back in 04. Several weeks later I found myself wondering what the hell I was doing, power washing my house at 6:30 in the morning.
That was actually true. I had to stop because of side effects that I won't go into.

antimorehead
08-01-2012, 01:19 PM
Martellus Bennett referred to OC Kevin Gilbride as Prof. Dumbledore at practice today.

antimorehead
08-01-2012, 01:23 PM
9 more days til preseason

antimorehead
08-01-2012, 01:29 PM
I dont know how you get it prescribed to you nowadays..Go to a doctor and tell them you have trouble focusing and are tired all day.

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 01:37 PM
about tiiime!!

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 01:41 PM
In Reese We Trust
John Mara just walked by with a bandage on his head and said "You should see what Jerry Jones looks like." - From Ralph Vacchiano

JPizzack
08-01-2012, 01:43 PM
Martellus Bennett referred to OC Kevin Gilbride as Prof. Dumbledore at practice today.

hilarious!!

JPizzack
08-01-2012, 01:47 PM
Go to a doctor and tell them you have trouble focusing and are tired all day.
doesnt really work that way anymore I dont think. lol

plus, if you say youre tired all the time, they'll just tell you to exercise more, and to change your diet. I need a shady doctor that will do what i ask, and not give me the run around all the time. I remember i went a year or 2 ago to get a prescription for chantix, and my doctor was trying to convince me not to. lol

Im like....umm...well i cant quit cold turkey, ive tried patches....and ive heard people who have had great results! hes like "welll....yea, but the DREAMS, MAAAN!!!" dude i dont care about the dreams....i jsut wanna quit smoking because its expensive lol

I never had any crazy dreams while on it anyway....

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 02:01 PM
doesnt really work that way anymore I dont think. lol

plus, if you say youre tired all the time, they'll just tell you to exercise more, and to change your diet. I need a shady doctor that will do what i ask, and not give me the run around all the time. I remember i went a year or 2 ago to get a prescription for chantix, and my doctor was trying to convince me not to. lol

Im like....umm...well i cant quit cold turkey, ive tried patches....and ive heard people who have had great results! hes like "welll....yea, but the DREAMS, MAAAN!!!" dude i dont care about the dreams....i jsut wanna quit smoking because its expensive lol

I never had any crazy dreams while on it anyway....It all depends on the doctor. I know people that are prescribed roxys for "pain". Its insane. But the last couple of months a lot of these doctors have been getting locked up.

My gf was prescribed adderalle in fl and tried to get prescribed up here when she came back and the doc wanted her to see a shrink even though she showed him a few slips from the doc in fl. She felt insulted and wanted her money back for the appointment. Anyway she went to another one the next day and got prescribed.

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 02:05 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/07/jerrel-jernigan-new-york-giants/1#.UBld76CuOSp

I want him to get the 3 spot. Hes too explosive to be sitting on the bench

JPizzack
08-01-2012, 02:28 PM
**** YOUR FACE, JORGE!!!

lol

JPizzack
08-01-2012, 02:33 PM
It all depends on the doctor. I know people that are prescribed roxys for "pain". Its insane. But the last couple of months a lot of these doctors have been getting locked up.

My gf was prescribed adderalle in fl and tried to get prescribed up here when she came back and the doc wanted her to see a shrink even though she showed him a few slips from the doc in fl. She felt insulted and wanted her money back for the appointment. Anyway she went to another one the next day and got prescribed.

yea, thats kinda bull****....youre already prescribed a drug, and other doctors are overly cautious, yet you get these quacks prescribing literally the most dangerous prescription drug for "pain"....wow **** that...
I had SEVERE pain caused by my wisdom tooth on christmas day this year....couldnt do anything about it. like, it hurt my entire body, i thought i ****ed up or something and was going toxic, i had no idea it could get that bad instantaneously. My mom had to give me like 4 of her vicodin just so i could function like a regular person until the dentist could see me the next day....
and even then, the doctor gave me prescription strenght motrin till my surgery instead of something stronger.

Morehead State
08-01-2012, 02:38 PM
It all depends on the doctor. I know people that are prescribed roxys for "pain". Its insane. But the last couple of months a lot of these doctors have been getting locked up.

My gf was prescribed adderalle in fl and tried to get prescribed up here when she came back and the doc wanted her to see a shrink even though she showed him a few slips from the doc in fl. She felt insulted and wanted her money back for the appointment. Anyway she went to another one the next day and got prescribed.
Why would she feel insulted? The new Doc has an obligation to make sure that the prescription was appropriate. How do they know that some quack didn't perscribe the wrong thing in FL?
To me thats just a doctor looking out for the patient.

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 02:48 PM
Why would she feel insulted? The new Doc has an obligation to make sure that the prescription was appropriate. How do they know that some quack didn't perscribe the wrong thing in FL?
To me thats just a doctor looking out for the patient.I guess because shes been prescribed this since she was in high school and she felt he didnt believe her. If a doctor said im not giving you your meds until you see a shrink, id be pretty mad as well. She cant afford to see one anyway.

Morehead State
08-01-2012, 03:05 PM
I guess because shes been prescribed this since she was in high school and she felt he didnt believe her. If a doctor said im not giving you your meds until you see a shrink, id be pretty mad as well. She cant afford to see one anyway.
I would imagine its a violation of medical ethics to prescribe something without an examination. He has an obligation to her to examine her before he prescribes something.

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 03:19 PM
Why would she feel insulted? The new Doc has an obligation to make sure that the prescription was appropriate. How do they know that some quack didn't perscribe the wrong thing in FL?
To me thats just a doctor looking out for the patient.But thats what the appointments for. To examine her. I never herd a doctor push a shrink(most likely a friend of his) on someone who needs medication and has prescriptions from past doctors. He was probably just nervous about all these doctors getting busted.

JPizzack
08-01-2012, 03:24 PM
But thats what the appointments for. To examine her. I never herd a doctor push a shrink(most likely a friend of his) on someone who needs medication and has prescriptions from past doctors. He was probably just nervous about all these doctors getting busted.
you know whats funny, is that he probably didnt even check to see when she was prescribed it last or anything. all that stuff is filed on a massive national database. I worked as a pharmacy tech when i was 18 years old, and when we entered scripts to be filled for refills, it would tell us when it was last entered EVEN IF it was at a different pharmacy. So we'd be like "I'm sorry, but this prescription of Percocet was just filled 3 days at Rite Aid. We cant do this for 25 more days."
Doctors have access to that also, in order to avoid accidentally doubling up what another doctor might do. Also, doctors prescribe electronically off of tablets now that send directly to whatever pharmacy you choose.....well, all my doctors do anyway....

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 03:26 PM
So Jobas back. Bullpen is pretty solid at the moment. Starting pitching is not. I think theyll start him. Throw him to the wolves. **** the 6 inning garbage.

Kase-1
08-01-2012, 03:30 PM
CBs coach Peter Giunta indicated S Antrel Rolle will be back at nickel CB with Terrell Thomas out, though he conceded that's not ideal. - From Ralph VacchianoArgh, I wanna see Rolle at his natural position, SAFETY!!!!

We gotta hope that Hosely gets well and has a smooth transition into the NFL, CB is usually one of the toughest positions to make the jump from college to the pros

Kase-1
08-01-2012, 03:31 PM
In Reese We Trust
John Mara just walked by with a bandage on his head and said "You should see what Jerry Jones looks like." - From Ralph VacchianoAWESOME!!!!

The Mara's are a top notch family

DavenIII
08-01-2012, 03:31 PM
I think It would be more surprising if he didn't send her to a shrink....

it's part of his job to do what he did, I don't understand why anyone would be upset about that.

The "shrink" may be able to figure out a better treatment method then what she was currently doing before...or may find that she simply doesn't need it anymore....isn't that a "good" thing? why would anyone be upset about getting good care?

Kase-1
08-01-2012, 03:35 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/07/jerrel-jernigan-new-york-giants/1#.UBld76CuOSp

I want him to get the 3 spot. Hes too explosive to be sitting on the benchNice article about Jerrnigan.

I dont care who gets that 3rd spot, but I just dont have faith in Hixons health at WR, Im not sold on Barden, Reuben Randle is intriguing and Jerrnigan could be the Wild Card

http://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5339385/il_570xN.303654745.jpg

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 03:38 PM
I think It would be more surprising if he didn't send her to a shrink....

it's part of his job to do what he did, I don't understand why anyone would be upset about that.

The "shrink" may be able to figure out a better treatment method then what she was currently doing before...or may find that she simply doesn't need it anymore....isn't that a "good" thing? why would anyone be upset about getting good care?I think you guys are being a bit ridiculous. Shes been prescribed this for years. Showed him past slips from two different doctors. She cant afford to see one anyway. So hows she going to get her medication??

DavenIII
08-01-2012, 03:53 PM
you can't just accept that others where right before you and just keep it going, what if they were wrong? what if the situation has changed....you can't just prescribe drugs to someone because they were prescribed before at some point, that's borderline criminal behavior.

I suppose I should just have an open prescription for codeine because it was prescribed for me when I had pneumonia 3 years ago, and lets give me some free Vicodin and maybe some percs too because I had them when my wisdom teeth were removed.

it's insane in my opinion to believe that a new doctor will just continue prescriptions given to you from a previous doctor...just because...without checking into it him/herself.

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 04:01 PM
Come on, shes not trying to get pain killers. This is for ADD and its a very low dosage, the lowest they make.

Again thats what the appointments for, to assess the patient. If he doesnt think she needs it, just tell her.

Morehead State
08-01-2012, 04:17 PM
Gotta agree with Scrappy on this one. Doctor has to put his name on it. And only a psychiatrist can make that evaluation.
You should know that Dez.

dezzzR
08-01-2012, 05:14 PM
Gotta agree with Scrappy on this one. Doctor has to put his name on it. And only a psychiatrist can make that evaluation.
You should know that Dez.
Different doctors do things differently.

DavenIII
08-01-2012, 05:53 PM
Different doctors do things differently.

Exactly, that's why the new doctor needs to do his own evaluation before he puts his name on a prescription. That doctor apparently thought having her see a "shrink" was necessary before making his decision....

how is this a bad thing? he's only doing what he thinks is best, not only that but who are we to question this decision...neither of us are doctors dez.

now if it's going to prevent her from getting the pills she believes she needs because she can't see the shrink because of money that is something she should tell the doctor...maybe they can work something out.

Imgrate
08-01-2012, 06:20 PM
I thought we voted for flex

byron
08-01-2012, 07:14 PM
I thought we voted for flex we did lawl..I don't think they are done setting up the leauge

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 12:17 AM
Stop sending me mixed messages man!

hopefully my old gets approved today.

I say keep this

bigblue4417
08-02-2012, 12:17 AM
Anyone seen pats!?!?

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 12:19 AM
The issue is that Florida hands meds out like they were per. I know a kid that use to take a trip down to Florida because the cost was so cheap and buy them in the 1000s.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 12:20 AM
So Jobas back. Bullpen is pretty solid at the moment. Starting pitching is not. I think theyll start him. Throw him to the wolves. **** the 6 inning garbage.

How's melky doing?

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 12:20 AM
Argh, I wanna see Rolle at his natural position, SAFETY!!!!

We gotta hope that Hosely gets well and has a smooth transition into the NFL, CB is usually one of the toughest positions to make the jump from college to the pros

It does blow

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 12:22 AM
we did lawl..I don't think they are done setting up the leaugeHaven't touched it yet. Just set the league up

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 12:23 AM
Anyone seen pats!?!? I sent him two emails. It will be done by sat noon the latest

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 12:24 AM
NEW VOTE:

POints per reception or no points per reception

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 09:16 AM
Why are we talking about so many changes? Now were looking at points per catch? You tricked us into flex AND three WR's. The only reason I switched to flex is because I didn't want 3 WR's. Flex plus 3 WR's is completely stupid. Why not have every player on your roster count for God's sake. Now we have this bizaare flex plus 3 WR nonsense. Now we are talking about PPR.

NO to PPR.

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 09:20 AM
Boards are completely screwed up for me. It won't let me reply unless I hit the "advanced" button, and then it won't let me quote someone else. Even when I press advanced it sometimes won't let me post.

NEW BOARDS SUCK!!!!!!!!

DavenIII
08-02-2012, 10:05 AM
I'm with you Morehead, I've given up on trying to conform to these boards, they win, I'll just quick reply, I can't even get avatars and sigs to work...nothing works it's always timing out and not loading correctly I give up.

btw NO to PPR as well.

dezzzR
08-02-2012, 10:05 AM
How's melky doing?Very well. You know who else is doing much better since he left. Cano.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 10:36 AM
Why are we talking about so many changes? Now were looking at points per catch? You tricked us into flex AND three WR's. The only reason I switched to flex is because I didn't want 3 WR's. Flex plus 3 WR's is completely stupid. Why not have every player on your roster count for God's sake. Now we have this bizaare flex plus 3 WR nonsense. Now we are talking about PPR.

NO to PPR.

cuz i made two mistakes for the league last year and one of them was that i made the league a non PPR and you guys flipped your lids like little pansy girls

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 10:36 AM
maybe your computer sucks

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 10:37 AM
I'm with you Morehead, I've given up on trying to conform to these boards, they win, I'll just quick reply, I can't even get avatars and sigs to work...nothing works it's always timing out and not loading correctly I give up.

btw NO to PPR as well.

i can't believe your having so many problems

its butter for me

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 10:38 AM
Very well. You know who else is doing much better since he left. Cano.

so your sayin as Cano gets closer to his prime, he keeps getting better?

Who would of thunk it?

dezzzR
08-02-2012, 10:42 AM
so your sayin as Cano gets closer to his prime, he keeps getting better?

Who would of thunk it?no Im saying, along with michael kay and a few others, that melky and cano used to goof around alot. and both their numbers are better since melky left. Melky would never be the hitter he is now in pinstripes, but thats just my opinion.

DavenIII
08-02-2012, 10:53 AM
I would quote you Matt, but it crashes the website every time I try to, I'll just say you are doing a good job towing that company line :P

DavenIII
08-02-2012, 10:54 AM
btw my last post took literally 6 minutes to actually post after I hit post....just a little thing spinning on the screen....for 6 minutes.

edit: oh wow, but this one worked nice.

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 11:40 AM
maybe your computer sucks
Now this time it worked. I'm sure it will screw up again.

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 11:52 AM
And now its screwed up again. No ability to quote and when you hit reply, you can't post until you hit "go advanced".

JPizzack
08-02-2012, 12:14 PM
Why are we talking about so many changes? Now were looking at points per catch? You tricked us into flex AND three WR's. The only reason I switched to flex is because I didn't want 3 WR's. Flex plus 3 WR's is completely stupid. Why not have every player on your roster count for God's sake. Now we have this bizaare flex plus 3 WR nonsense. Now we are talking about PPR.

NO to PPR.

I agree. I mean, i didnt get to vote because of the league rules, and my sabatical last season, but it was definitely BS the way 3WR was introduced AFTER flex was voted on.

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 12:23 PM
Because Matt's plan was always to have 3 WR AND flex. When I voted on the flex question, I was voting for 2 WR and a flex.

DavenIII
08-02-2012, 12:27 PM
I was voting on 2WR and flex as well Morehead, but then he came up with the "compromise" while the vote was going on, it gives us a flex while still giving him his 3WR's

I know you don't like it, I actually do because it makes us have to go even deeper looking for players, anything that makes it more difficult to find top quality players is something I'm gonna vote for.

JPizzack
08-02-2012, 12:27 PM
Because Matt's plan was always to have 3 WR AND flex. When I voted on the flex question, I was voting for 2 WR and a flex.

thats pretty much how I felt about the situation.
What i'm actually confused about though, is how people saw the 2nd shady vote and were like "oh yea, 3 WR AND flex....totally..."
lol

DavenIII
08-02-2012, 12:33 PM
thats pretty much how I felt about the situation.
What i'm actually confused about though, is how people saw the 2nd shady vote and were like "oh yea, 3 WR AND flex....totally..."
lol


I don't know why people keep calling it shady, he mentioned it 2 or 3 times a page for about 6-10 pages straight....just because you guys weren't paying attention to it and missed it doesn't make it shady.

and the votes that did come in were almost unanimously for it.

It makes the league have to dig deeper...that's a good thing in my opinion.

JPizzack
08-02-2012, 12:35 PM
I don't know why people keep calling it shady, he mentioned it 2 or 3 times a page for about 6-10 pages straight....just because you guys weren't paying attention to it and missed it doesn't make it shady.

and the votes that did come in were almost unanimously for it.

It makes the league have to dig deeper...that's a good thing in my opinion.

lol, didnt matter to me, i didnt get to vote.

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 12:40 PM
I'd love to quote you but the friggin boards won't let me. No, Matt definately manipulated the vote but we were guilty of letting him. The problem with 3 WR's (maybe 4 with the flex) is that how a crap WR plays on a given day is more a matter of pure luck. Generally you're hoping for a few catches and if he scores thats just pure luck. I know that luck has a lot to do with FF, but you enhance the chances of luck playing a part with 3 WR's.
I'm OK with flex because that takes some team strategy. Now a flex PLUS a 3rd WR reduces it to a crap shoot. Thats why Matt likes it, he's a bad player and when you add luck it gives him a better chance.

DavenIII
08-02-2012, 12:46 PM
yeah I know what you are saying morehead, it's true that there is definitely more luck involved with 3WR-Flex then 2WR-Flex, another thing I don't like about it is in a 3WR-Flex you are almost guaranteed to have 3WR and 3RB vs in the 2WR-Flex it could be either 3WR and 2RB or 2 WR and 3RB since the RB and WR depth and points per game are almost identical (even though matt refuses to acknowledge that fact)

with that all said, it still forces people to know more about teams if they want to get a good 3rd RB and WR you need to know which teams throw to the 3rd and 4th option more often and which teams have a 3 deep RB corps...you know what I mean? I like Fantasy Football to be determined by who knows the most about the most teams and I think the deeper you have to go to find players the more that becomes a factor.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 01:06 PM
Because Matt's plan was always to have 3 WR AND flex. When I voted on the flex question, I was voting for 2 WR and a flex.

matts plan was to never have a flex

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 01:09 PM
I was voting on 2WR and flex as well Morehead, but then he came up with the "compromise" while the vote was going on, it gives us a flex while still giving him his 3WR's

I know you don't like it, I actually do because it makes us have to go even deeper looking for players, anything that makes it more difficult to find top quality players is something I'm gonna vote for.

and i even said we'd vote on the compromise before moorehead flip flopped like he was picking his favorite baseball team

after last years debacle i want as little crying as possible

and its hilarious that Pappy is asking why are we voting on everything after he was leading the tears last year, second in command to Lando

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 01:10 PM
I don't know why people keep calling it shady, he mentioned it 2 or 3 times a page for about 6-10 pages straight....just because you guys weren't paying attention to it and missed it doesn't make it shady.

and the votes that did come in were almost unanimously for it.

It makes the league have to dig deeper...that's a good thing in my opinion.

lol only so much i can do daven

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 01:11 PM
I'd love to quote you but the friggin boards won't let me. No, Matt definately manipulated the vote but we were guilty of letting him. The problem with 3 WR's (maybe 4 with the flex) is that how a crap WR plays on a given day is more a matter of pure luck. Generally you're hoping for a few catches and if he scores thats just pure luck. I know that luck has a lot to do with FF, but you enhance the chances of luck playing a part with 3 WR's.
I'm OK with flex because that takes some team strategy. Now a flex PLUS a 3rd WR reduces it to a crap shoot. Thats why Matt likes it, he's a bad player and when you add luck it gives him a better chance.

i'll take screen shots on my phone and post the pictures... no more lies old man

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 01:11 PM
i disagree.. .and by your own stats of arguing about having the 2 WR flex - would prove that even more.

JPizzack
08-02-2012, 01:13 PM
yeah I know what you are saying morehead, it's true that there is definitely more luck involved with 3WR-Flex then 2WR-Flex, another thing I don't like about it is in a 3WR-Flex you are almost guaranteed to have 3WR and 3RB vs in the 2WR-Flex it could be either 3WR and 2RB or 2 WR and 3RB since the RB and WR depth and points per game are almost identical (even though matt refuses to acknowledge that fact)

with that all said, it still forces people to know more about teams if they want to get a good 3rd RB and WR you need to know which teams throw to the 3rd and 4th option more often and which teams have a 3 deep RB corps...you know what I mean? I like Fantasy Football to be determined by who knows the most about the most teams and I think the deeper you have to go to find players the more that becomes a factor.

I disagree with this for one reason....which i've brought up a million times:

It doesnt matter how many players you know, and how well you know teams, and their depth charts....
In a league like ours, the only thing that matters is waiver priority. Everyone on sunday/monday night is scrambling to put in their waiver claims in hopes that someone higher than them in the order has not put a claim in for a 3rd string RB who might get a shot the following week. It really does not matter what you know, as long as you have access to the internet to know who the backups are. its a crap shoot.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 01:16 PM
I disagree with this for one reason....which i've brought up a million times:

It doesnt matter how many players you know, and how well you know teams, and their depth charts....
In a league like ours, the only thing that matters is waiver priority. Everyone on sunday/monday night is scrambling to put in their waiver claims in hopes that someone higher than them in the order has not put a claim in for a 3rd string RB who might get a shot the following week. It really does not matter what you know, as long as you have access to the internet to know who the backups are. its a crap shoot.

u just make sure you learn the term "HANDCUFF" for this year lol

JPizzack
08-02-2012, 01:24 PM
u just make sure you learn the term "HANDCUFF" for this year lol

everyone tries to handcuff....everyone else, if they are smart, will try to prevent people from handcuffing.

Handcuffing is normal in a 10 man league with the normal 5 bench spots....in a ****ed up league like ours, i'll be robbing the **** out of all your handcuffs =P

byron
08-02-2012, 01:26 PM
and i even said we'd vote on the compromise before moorehead flip flopped like he was picking his favorite baseball team

after last years debacle i want as little crying as possible

and its hilarious that Pappy is asking why are we voting on everything after he was leading the tears last year, second in command to Lando I don't care one way or the other flip flopping shouldn't be aloud on a vote....you don't get to take your vote back out of a ballot box do you...just saying I really don't care ....but no flex had won till he changed we wouldn't even be talking about this vote had the first votes stood with nobody changing...

JPizzack
08-02-2012, 01:28 PM
I don't care one way or the other flip flopping shouldn't be aloud on a vote....you don't get to take your vote back out of a ballot box do you...just saying I really don't care ....but no flex had won till he changed we wouldn't even be talking about this vote had the first votes stood with nobody changing...
hmm, thats a pretty good point. i didnt realize that lol

byron
08-02-2012, 01:29 PM
Now this time it worked. I'm sure it will screw up again. its started for you I've been having all kinds of random problems for days and I have checked everything on this pc....just the opposite when the board first came online

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 01:34 PM
I don't care one way or the other flip flopping shouldn't be aloud on a vote....you don't get to take your vote back out of a ballot box do you...just saying I really don't care ....but no flex had won till he changed we wouldn't even be talking about this vote had the first votes stood with nobody changing...
Honestly Byron I would have preferred 3 WR and no flex over what we have. Had I know 3 WR and a flex was even a possibility I would have voted for 3 WR..
In other words...I agree with you, I shouldn't have been allowed to switch so lets go back to 3 WR and NO flex.

byron
08-02-2012, 01:35 PM
thats pretty much how I felt about the situation.
What i'm actually confused about though, is how people saw the 2nd shady vote and were like "oh yea, 3 WR AND flex....totally..."
lol I voted for no flex same as last year and that vote passed till flip flopping was aloud....I know I'm focusing on that but I'm not mad about it honesty...but thats when things got out of hand vote wise......

byron
08-02-2012, 01:37 PM
Honestly Byron I would have preferred 3 WR and no flex over what we have. Had I know 3 WR and a flex was even a possibility I would have voted for 3 WR..
In other words...I agree with you, I shouldn't have been allowed to switch so lets go back to 3 WR and NO flex. hey man I'm all for it again I'm not mad about you changing your vote but in the future it should be aloud....I can't spell sorry....I got to get back to work

bigblue4417
08-02-2012, 04:38 PM
NEW VOTE:

POints per reception or no points per reception
Fuuuuuuuuuck NOOOOOOOOO

JPizzack
08-02-2012, 04:48 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuck NOOOOOOOOO

sooooooooooo, no?

bigblue4417
08-02-2012, 04:59 PM
Honestly Byron I would have preferred 3 WR and no flex over what we have. Had I know 3 WR and a flex was even a possibility I would have voted for 3 WR..
In other words...I agree with you, I shouldn't have been allowed to switch so lets go back to 3 WR and NO flex.
It really should be one or the other. Both is makes it too easy to get lucky on any given week.,

Imgrate
08-02-2012, 06:20 PM
yes for ppr

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 07:57 PM
It really should be one or the other. Both is makes it too easy to get lucky on any given week.,
I apologize to all that I allowed Matt to ruin our league.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 08:03 PM
I don't care one way or the other flip flopping shouldn't be aloud on a vote....you don't get to take your vote back out of a ballot box do you...just saying I really don't care ....but no flex had won till he changed we wouldn't even be talking about this vote had the first votes stood with nobody changing...

U guys are making me nuts lol

We WOULD have had the vote either at and I was personally voting for the compromise over non flex.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 08:04 PM
Honestly Byron I would have preferred 3 WR and no flex over what we have. Had I know 3 WR and a flex was even a possibility I would have voted for 3 WR..
In other words...I agree with you, I shouldn't have been allowed to switch so lets go back to 3 WR and NO flex.

The vote would of happened either way.

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 08:05 PM
I apologize to all that I allowed Matt to ruin our league.

Lol u didn't though

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 08:06 PM
PPR vote:

Yes: lawl, pats

No: pappy, lando, me


Anybody else vote that I missed?

Morehead State
08-02-2012, 08:08 PM
Lol u didn't though
No I get it. The more luck involved, the better chance a bad player has......like you. Hahahaha!!!!

bigblue4417
08-02-2012, 08:13 PM
If this league goes ppr I'm out. Straight up. The changes we already had are gay enough

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 08:19 PM
On page 13570 starts the truth about the whol what my intentions were about the flex/standard format. The truth shall set you free

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 08:22 PM
If this league goes ppr I'm out. Straight up. The changes we already had are gay enough we've had one change in which was a compromise of two diff settings we've gone with in the

Sad to see you pull a pizz. You'll be back

Kase-1
08-02-2012, 09:33 PM
Sounds like NOBODY wants 3WR AND a Flex

Cant we get a re-count?? LOL

byron
08-02-2012, 09:52 PM
PPR vote:

Yes: lawl, pats

No: pappy, lando, me


Anybody else vote that I missed? no ppr.....

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 10:06 PM
Sounds like NOBODY wants 3WR AND a Flex

Cant we get a re-count?? LOL

Well it was actually that some agred that the compromise was better so everybody is happy and then the people that don't want flex period would rather have 3 wr

MattMeyerBud
08-02-2012, 10:07 PM
no ppr..... Amanda just said no PPR. One more NO vote to cancel PPR out

Imgrate
08-02-2012, 10:34 PM
Are we seriously having 3 wr and a flex? Pretty ****ty

byron
08-02-2012, 10:41 PM
Well it was actually that some agred that the compromise was better so everybody is happy and then the people that don't want flex period would rather have 3 wr I throught the way we had it last year worked out pretty good....;)

sharick88
08-02-2012, 11:19 PM
No PPR for me.

Morehead State
08-03-2012, 12:09 AM
No PPR for me.
Matt and Amanda put on quite a show.

byron
08-03-2012, 12:40 AM
Matt and Amanda put on quite a show. yeah it was cool its been a couple years sience i've seen him
fater time is a rude dog sometimes ;)








I'm just jk !!

bigblue4417
08-03-2012, 12:45 AM
I really think we need to get vote again on this. 2 RB's 3 WR's and a flex is just too much. It takes all the skill out of the game in my opinion. You are playing 6 skill players, a QB with 6 pts per TD and a TE. There will be no decisions like should I put in player A or B. You can just put everyone in and hope they blow up. We are all more skilled than this. This is the kind of **** rookie leagues do. It should either be 2 RBs and 3 WR's or 2 RB's, 2 WR's and Flex.

I vote for 2 RB's and 3 WR's.

Morehead State
08-03-2012, 12:48 AM
yeah it was cool its been a couple years sience i've seen him
fater time is a rude dog sometimes ;)








I'm just jk !!
I don't think he's any more hideous than he was last year. I give him that. (of course he's no less hideous either)

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2012, 12:48 AM
I really think we need to get vote again on this. 2 RB's 3 WR's and a flex is just too much. It takes all the skill out of the game in my opinion. You are playing 6 skill players, a QB with 6 pts per TD and a TE. There will be no decisions like should I put in player A or B. You can just put everyone in and hope they blow up. We are all more skilled than this. This is the kind of **** rookie leagues do. It should either be 2 RBs and 3 WR's or 2 RB's, 2 WR's and Flex.

I vote for 2 RB's and 3 WR's.

Didn't you quit?

2 wr flex won the vote. Regardless I don't think it would Change the compromise vote

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2012, 12:49 AM
I don't think he's any more hideous than he was last year. I give him that. (of course he's no less hideous either)

Haha both of you can blow me

Imgrate
08-03-2012, 01:27 AM
Didn't you quit?2 wr flex won the vote. Regardless I don't think it would Change the compromise voteIts not a compromise. It is a completely different idea in itself. Noone wants 3 wr 2 rb and flex besides you. The majority on the other hand voted for 2 rb 2 wr and flex. That's how it should be.

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2012, 01:34 AM
Its not a compromise. It is a completely different idea in itself. Noone wants 3 wr 2 rb and flex besides you. The majority on the other hand voted for 2 rb 2 wr and flex. That's how it should be.
Actually 3 we flex best out 2 wr flex 6-3 or something like that. Lando asked for a recount because he wants no flex

MattMeyerBud
08-03-2012, 01:43 AM
Actually 3 we flex best out 2 wr flex 6-3 or something like that. Lando asked for a recount because he wants no flex

iPad sucks.

3 WR flex beat out 2WR FLEX 6-3. Lol I love how it's always a conspiracy when somebody doesn't get what thy want. Then I get complaints like why are we voting on everything. This is why

Imgrate
08-03-2012, 09:35 AM
Actually 3 we flex best out 2 wr flex 6-3 or something like that. Lando asked for a recount because he wants no flex Did it really? I don't recall even voting for that specific thing. I did say that if 3 wr flex was even a possibility then I would've voted for no flex to begin with

lttaylor56
08-03-2012, 09:54 AM
New boards are a little quirky for me at times also. When I am signed in the boards tell me I am not signed in and cannot post. When I have a message I want to respond to, I have to go to the main board sign in and then I have a difficult time getting back to the message. The board doesn't load the Swag Last page like it used to. It can be frustrating 50% of the time.

DavenIII
08-03-2012, 10:23 AM
No PPR for me (said so earlier)

I'm all for a recount on the 3WR and flex ...it's fine with me, as long as we understand that it's still EITHER 3WR and Flex or 2 WR and Flex...Flex has been voted in already...2WR vs 3WR is a separate vote.

JPizzack
08-03-2012, 10:42 AM
New boards are a little quirky for me at times also. When I am signed in the boards tell me I am not signed in and cannot post. When I have a message I want to respond to, I have to go to the main board sign in and then I have a difficult time getting back to the message. The board doesn't load the Swag Last page like it used to. It can be frustrating 50% of the time.

seems to be a running theme. today was the first day that my work browser kept me logged in from the previous log in. the boards do seem to act up at times, definitely.

Imgrate
08-03-2012, 11:12 AM
No PPR for me (said so earlier) I'm all for a recount on the 3WR and flex ...it's fine with me, as long as we understand that it's still EITHER 3WR and Flex or 2 WR and Flex...Flex has been voted in already...2WR vs 3WR is a separate vote. Right, but after I voted for flex, the idea of a3 wr + flex came about. It is a completely different idea in itself. If I knew a 3 wr+flex was a possibility then I would not have voted for flex.

DavenIII
08-03-2012, 11:43 AM
Right, but after I voted for flex, the idea of a3 wr + flex came about. It is a completely different idea in itself. If I knew a 3 wr+flex was a possibility then I would not have voted for flex.


Yes, but the two votes had nothing to do with each other.

we voted on flex or no flex...the flex was agreed upon (that's done)

then Matt wanted 3WR's still...that was voted on and agreed with.

if everyone is angry about the 3WR thing I'm fine with doing a recount on that, but if we recount flex I'll be angry...that was decided on already before the 3 WR thing and it has nothing to do with it.

JPizzack
08-03-2012, 11:54 AM
I know my vote doesnt count...but the phrase "compromise vote" is totally not true. the bottom line is that if some people knew 3WR + flex was an option, they wouldnt have voted for flex. Lawl is correct.

DavenIII
08-03-2012, 12:04 PM
I know my vote doesnt count...but the phrase "compromise vote" is totally not true. the bottom line is that if some people knew 3WR + flex was an option, they wouldnt have voted for flex. Lawl is correct.

what I don't like about this comment is you are suggesting that the 3wr vote has something to do with the flex vote...they are completely separate votes and have nothing to do with one another.

we decided as a league that having a flex position is good, period end of story over.

then Matt...being butt hurt over it decided to make up for that he was going to try an add another WR spot to the roster.

that's an entirely different vote that the league also decided was a good idea.

now everyone seems to be angry about 3WR+Flex....fine, whatever...but the point is we agreed on flex we just don't seem to agree on Flex AND 3wr's...since Flex was passed first the only thing up for discussion should be 3 WR's

JPizzack
08-03-2012, 12:12 PM
what I don't like about this comment is you are suggesting that the 3wr vote has something to do with the flex vote...they are completely separate votes and have nothing to do with one another.

we decided as a league that having a flex position is good, period end of story over.

then Matt...being butt hurt over it decided to make up for that he was going to try an add another WR spot to the roster.

that's an entirely different vote that the league also decided was a good idea.

now everyone seems to be angry about 3WR+Flex....fine, whatever...but the point is we agreed on flex we just don't seem to agree on Flex AND 3wr's...since Flex was passed first the only thing up for discussion should be 3 WR's

I dont think anyone is arguing the orignal flex vote. I think that it was a matter of people voting either (3WR + 2RB) vs (2WR + 2RB +flex)......nobody knew 3WR + flex was going to be an additional option after the fact.

DavenIII
08-03-2012, 12:20 PM
Ok, well that's fine but only cause I don't care if it's 2+2+Flex or 3+2+Flex...makes no difference to me.

but I will say that Matt went on and on and on about it 2 or 3 times a page for 6-10 pages in a row....if anyone didn't know about it, it was because they were purposefully ignoring Matt's posts....which I mean I don't blame anyone if that was the case :P

bigblue4417
08-03-2012, 12:52 PM
I know my vote doesnt count...but the phrase "compromise vote" is totally not true. the bottom line is that if some people knew 3WR + flex was an option, they wouldnt have voted for flex. Lawl is correct.
I totally agree

Morehead State
08-03-2012, 01:00 PM
Lets take a new vote on taking a new vote. Flex has been voted in. Now it should be 3 WR plus flex or 2 WR plus flex.

Imgrate
08-03-2012, 01:18 PM
Lets take a new vote on taking a new vote. Flex has been voted in. Now it should be 3 WR plus flex or 2 WR plus flex.3 wr + flex was not introduced at the beginning. It should not be voted on at all. If 3 wr plus flex was introduced at the beginning (before I made my vote) then I would have voted for 3 wr instead of flex and therefore flex would not have won.

JPizzack
08-03-2012, 04:17 PM
jeez....new forums are even more boring than the old ones....

Kase-1
08-03-2012, 05:53 PM
Well it was actually that some agred that the compromise was better so everybody is happy and then the people that don't want flex period would rather have 3 wrI think everyone wants 2WR with a Flex OR 3WR..... Thats what it seems like to me

byron
08-03-2012, 06:36 PM
I think everyone wants 2WR with a Flex OR 3WR..... Thats what it seems like to me I originally voted 3 wr on flex same setup as last year...that was the first vote we took and it passed Matt called it...then somebody changed their vote and all hell broke loose.....lol


page:13570

FLEX VOTE UPDATE:

NO FLEX: Me, Amanda, Pappy, Byron, Lando

YES FLEX: Daven, Lawl, Sharick, Kase

waiting on LT and Pats

5-4
LT voted standard....pats voted flex....making the vote 6 to 5 standard......

here is matt calling it....page 13571

The vote is in, it's standard. I say we just try to vote it out to attempt peace


[/quote]
I'm changing my vote to flex......... guess who?


Matt was calling for a compromise vote nearly from the beginning....I guess I didn't realize it would actually go to vote it still wouldn't have changed my original vote had I known....

the vote started on page 13546..........

page 13547 Matt and I talking

[/quote] Matt... WR is deep this year, even for a mandatory 3 receiver starts... i would be okay with a flex if we HAVE to start 3 wrs and 2 rbs and 1 flex.... but people wat 2rbs 2 WRs and 1 flex... it just is weak sauce[/quote] Byron ....make the flex spot rb/te, 3wrs, 2rbs......jk... I'm good with no flex.......


and the rest is history....its a good read if you got the time ;) starts at 13546

bigblue4417
08-03-2012, 06:54 PM
I originally voted 3 wr on flex same setup as last year...that was the first vote we took and it passed Matt called it...then somebody changed their vote and all hell broke loose.....lol
Way to go MH lol

Kase-1
08-03-2012, 07:07 PM
I originally voted 3 wr on flex same setup as last year...that was the first vote we took and it passed Matt called it...then somebody changed their vote and all hell broke loose.....lol




FLEX VOTE UPDATE:

NO FLEX: Me, Amanda, Pappy, Byron, Lando

YES FLEX: Daven, Lawl, Sharick, Kase

waiting on LT and Pats

5-4
LT voted standard....pats voted flex....the vote was tied Amanda being the tie breaker...... I'm thinking a no flex win at this point...... thenI was all for Flex when it was 2WR Flex vs 3WR and No Flex

If i was voting for 3WR and Flex vs 3 WR, I would vote for 3 WR

byron
08-03-2012, 07:41 PM
I was all for Flex when it was 2WR Flex vs 3WR and No Flex

If i was voting for 3WR and Flex vs 3 WR, I would vote for 3 WR yeah we need to improve our voting process....:D

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 09:56 AM
3 wr + flex was not introduced at the beginning. It should not be voted on at all. If 3 wr plus flex was introduced at the beginning (before I made my vote) then I would have voted for 3 wr instead of flex and therefore flex would not have won.

I don't understand this logic, the first vote was 3WR vs 2 WR and Flex, that went 2 WR Flex..everyone participated in that vote, then AFTER that 3WR plus Flex was introduced.

people are acting like Matt decided to change the 2WR flex into 3WR Flex...that's not what happened...it was a separate vote that did that, whether it was an option when we were voting for 2WR+Flex vs 3 WR without flex is irrelevant.

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 10:41 AM
I don't understand this logic, the first vote was 3WR vs 2 WR and Flex, that went 2 WR Flex..everyone participated in that vote, then AFTER that 3WR plus Flex was introduced.people are acting like Matt decided to change the 2WR flex into 3WR Flex...that's not what happened...it was a separate vote that did that, whether it was an option when we were voting for 2WR+Flex vs 3 WR without flex is irrelevant.Not true. after i voted and before all votes were finalized, the idea of a 3wr +flex was brought up. 3 wr + flex is its own idea in itself, it should not be related to 2 wr + flex. If 3wr + flex was going to ever be an option it should have been brought up before any vote took place. it was not.

Morehead State
08-06-2012, 10:47 AM
I don't understand this logic, the first vote was 3WR vs 2 WR and Flex, that went 2 WR Flex..everyone participated in that vote, then AFTER that 3WR plus Flex was introduced.

people are acting like Matt decided to change the 2WR flex into 3WR Flex...that's not what happened...it was a separate vote that did that, whether it was an option when we were voting for 2WR+Flex vs 3 WR without flex is irrelevant.

The vote was for 2 WR vs. flex vs. 3 WR. 2 WR plus flex won. How then can you have another vote for 3 WR plus flex when we already voted for 2 WR plus flex.
Its like saying..."never mind that we voted for 2 WR plus flex.......lets just ignore that and have a completely different vote"

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 11:11 AM
so what you guys are saying is that it should have been a three way vote? 3WR vs 2WR Flex vs 3WR Flex....I suppose it could have been that way but honestly I don't see much of a difference, if enough people wanted 3WR without flex then it would have beaten 2WR+Flex to begin with....it didn't because it wasn't popular enough, 3WR+Flex beat 2WR+Flex because it was more popular...to me the one that was the most popular won why everyone is changing their mind now after the voting is confusing to me.

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JPizzack
08-06-2012, 12:17 PM
whats up *****es?

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 12:17 PM
so what you guys are saying is that it should have been a three way vote? 3WR vs 2WR Flex vs 3WR Flex....I suppose it could have been that way but honestly I don't see much of a difference, if enough people wanted 3WR without flex then it would have beaten 2WR+Flex to begin with....it didn't because it wasn't popular enough, 3WR+Flex beat 2WR+Flex because it was more popular...to me the one that was the most popular won why everyone is changing their mind now after the voting is confusing to me.when did the second vote even happen?

byron
08-06-2012, 12:22 PM
The vote was for 2 WR vs. flex vs. 3 WR. 2 WR plus flex won. How then can you have another vote for 3 WR plus flex when we already voted for 2 WR plus flex.
Its like saying..."never mind that we voted for 2 WR plus flex.......lets just ignore that and have a completely different vote" all votes that pertained to flex should have been on the table ..... given the way it went tho a vote should have been taken on whether or not to have a vote on the compromise...3wr/flex.....we over turned a passed vote without repeal...I can see why some don't like it/that

byron
08-06-2012, 12:34 PM
when did the second vote even happen? the whole flex vote starts on page 13546.....I'll say this matt was talking about the 3wr flex thing very early in the vote/debate....the second vote happened right after two wr flex passed....lol.........it went like this 3wr passed matt called it then mh changed his vote 2wr/flex wins matt calls that then calls for the 3wr/flex vote it passes final.....I was there !.......I don't care what the rule is but I would like to see the voting process cleaned up it ill eliminate these cluster ****s .....

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 12:36 PM
when did the second vote even happen?

after the first one? everyone keeps saying he "snuck" the vote in or something but like I've said 3 or 4 times now, for 6+ pages he mentioned that there was going to be a "second" vote on whatever won between the Flex or 3WR, that the second vote would be whatever won vs 3WR+flex...it was talked about in depth over multiple pages, it seems everyone choose to ignore it...and now everyone that ignored it is angry.

the second vote was made clear to everyone on the boards who actually reads them, if multiple people weren't there that day sorry, but that happens sometimes it's no different then any other year....the fact remains that there was enough members of the league that voted for it that it was passed....I know that makes you guys angry but that's the point of a vote...if you want to throw your "no" votes in throw them in but the fact remains that out of 11 voters (?) 6 of them said yes to 3WR+Flex....

so even if you missed it...(even though it was talked about in depth over multiple pages) it still doesn't matter because the vote was fair and it came out in favor of it.

dezzzR
08-06-2012, 12:38 PM
4 more days **** heads.

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 12:41 PM
all votes that pertained to flex should have been on the table ..... given the way it went tho a vote should have been taken on whether or not to have a vote on the compromise...3wr/flex.....we over turned a passed vote without repeal...I can see why some don't like it/that

Ok I understand that logic, that makes sense, before trying to overturn the "roster settings" that had been set at 2WR+Flex after MH's flip we should have voted on whether to let a compromise vote even happen in the first place...understood.

that said since 6+ people voted for the 3WR+Flex doesn't it stand to reason that the compromise vote would have been passed?

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 12:41 PM
after the first one? everyone keeps saying he "snuck" the vote in or something but like I've said 3 or 4 times now, for 6+ pages he mentioned that there was going to be a "second" vote on whatever won between the Flex or 3WR, that the second vote would be whatever won vs 3WR+flex...it was talked about in depth over multiple pages, it seems everyone choose to ignore it...and now everyone that ignored it is angry.the second vote was made clear to everyone on the boards who actually reads them, if multiple people weren't there that day sorry, but that happens sometimes it's no different then any other year....the fact remains that there was enough members of the league that voted for it that it was passed....I know that makes you guys angry but that's the point of a vote...if you want to throw your "no" votes in throw them in but the fact remains that out of 11 voters (?) 6 of them said yes to 3WR+Flex....so even if you missed it...(even though it was talked about in depth over multiple pages) it still doesn't matter because the vote was fair and it came out in favor of it.who are the 6 that voted for 3 wr + flex.and yes, the vote for 3 wr + flex was most definitely randomly added after some had already voted for.flex. both kase and myself would have voted for 3 wr if we knew prior to voting that 3 wr + flex was even an option.

byron
08-06-2012, 12:50 PM
Ok I understand that logic, that makes sense, before trying to overturn the "roster settings" that had been set at 2WR+Flex after MH's flip we should have voted on whether to let a compromise vote even happen in the first place...understood.

that said since 6+ people voted for the 3WR+Flex doesn't it stand to reason that the compromise vote would have been passed? one would think as long as nobody flipped :).... but would the vote to allow the new vote have passed?....again I don't care

byron
08-06-2012, 01:29 PM
4 more days **** heads. oh yeah ....watch any of the game last night? I watched some of it a bit boring ....

dezzzR
08-06-2012, 01:36 PM
To byron,

No, I thought it was on nfl network.

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 01:37 PM
Lawl I on't understand that logic, the vote was between 3WR vs 2WR Flex....period END OF STORY.

you are telling me that even though you voted for 2WR Flex you actually wanted to vote for 3WR...well then why didn't you?

now the completely separate and unrelated issue was the fact that there was a vote after the initial vote, you are angry about that one, the 2WRFlex vs 3WRFlex vote...

but that's something completely separate, you keep saying that if you had known that there could be another vote about something else that your initial vote would have changed, but that doesn't make any sense...rules are up for debate and voted upon any rule can be changed any number of times before the start of the season as long as it's voted upon...

it's the same as me saying well I wouldn't have voted for QB's to get 4 pts per touchdown if I had known we were going to vote flex in and then saying we need to do the QB pts vote again.

one vote is not related to the other.

That's how I see it.

now I can also see Byron's point saying the vote should have been all three options available at the same time since they are all sort of related, but the problem is by the time MMB came up with the 3rd option the vote between the first 2 was almost done..it would have been too confusing to add the 3rd option that late into it.

byron
08-06-2012, 01:41 PM
To byron,

No, I thought it was on nfl network. it was but I found it on justin tv the feed got shut done in the third quarter....I didn't look for another....brez looked good he took them in for a td and they pulled him....

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 01:44 PM
This league is such a ****show. You'd figure over a 4 year period you would have all gotten your **** together.....

Arent you guyus embarassed that you do this EVERY year? it's awful. And you wonder why I didn't want to play last year? lol

dezzzR
08-06-2012, 01:50 PM
I saw a few highlights of mark ingram running real hard

byron
08-06-2012, 02:00 PM
Thats right Daven things were happening on the fly ...votes were being taken will debate was going on about the whole thing...its easy to look back and say ok we should have debated all the options first and then the vote but thats not what happened....Matt was trying to come up with something that maybe everybody would like hence why he called it a compromise cause that what he thought it was....people who wanted 3wrs got it, people who wanted flex got that...then he debated why he thought is was a good compromise ....thats the way I saw it anyway.....in the future maybe we need to be a little more carefull of how these votes go down ....not everybody can be in this thread at the same time or the whole time the vote is going on ....

byron
08-06-2012, 02:02 PM
This league is such a ****show. You'd figure over a 4 year period you would have all gotten your **** together.....

Arent you guyus embarassed that you do this EVERY year? it's awful. And you wonder why I didn't want to play last year? lol but we all love each other!.... baby steps JP we are getting there !

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 02:06 PM
Lawl I on't understand that logic, the vote was between 3WR vs 2WR Flex....period END OF STORY.you are telling me that even though you voted for 2WR Flex you actually wanted to vote for 3WR...well then why didn't you?now the completely separate and unrelated issue was the fact that there was a vote after the initial vote, you are angry about that one, the 2WRFlex vs 3WRFlex vote...but that's something completely separate, you keep saying that if you had known that there could be another vote about something else that your initial vote would have changed, but that doesn't make any sense...rules are up for debate and voted upon any rule can be changed any number of times before the start of the season as long as it's voted upon...it's the same as me saying well I wouldn't have voted for QB's to get 4 pts per touchdown if I had known we were going to vote flex in and then saying we need to do the QB pts vote again.one vote is not related to the other.That's how I see it.now I can also see Byron's point saying the vote should have been all three options available at the same time since they are all sort of related, but the problem is by the time MMB came up with the 3rd option the vote between the first 2 was almost done..it would have been too confusing to add the 3rd option that late into it.the vote was between 2 wr flex and 3 wr, period end of story. EXACTLY. Well, except that wasnt the end of the story and some other random vote was brought that i never voted on nor saw the results for. 3 wr isnt what i wanted, but i prefer it over 3 wr + flex and i voted accordingly.there was absolutely no reason to vote again on something that had been decided. your analogy is terrible. an analogy that fits the bill would be a vote on whether or not qb td points should be 4 or 6. Say 6 wins, well now **** that i dont like that, lets vote for qb td points being 5 points. Doesnt make much sense to me.

byron
08-06-2012, 02:07 PM
I saw a few highlights of mark ingram running real hard he looked good again I just couldn't get into it to much ...

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 02:10 PM
Lets have a vote. i want the flex to include QBs too

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 02:10 PM
but we all love each other!.... baby steps JP we are getting there !

lol
4 years isnt baby steps! it should be a well-oiled machine!

What's the opposite of a well-oiled machine? lol

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 02:12 PM
Lets have a vote. i want the flex to include QBs too

--___--

I just assume that's sarcasm...

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 02:14 PM
Thats right Daven things were happening on the fly ...votes were being taken will debate was going on about the whole thing...its easy to look back and say ok we should have debated all the options first and then the vote but thats not what happened....Matt was trying to come up with something that maybe everybody would like hence why he called it a compromise cause that what he thought it was....people who wanted 3wrs got it, people who wanted flex got that...then he debated why he thought is was a good compromise ....thats the way I saw it anyway.....in the future maybe we need to be a little more carefull of how these votes go down ....not everybody can be in this thread at the same time or the whole time the vote is going on ....

Agreed I think this is exactly what happened, but the thing is if we are doing the votes on the forums then inevitable some people are going to miss it, until we come up with some other place to do it it's always going to be like this, the thing I don't get is the league rules are based on votes right? so it really doesn't matter per say if "You" or "I" get to see a particular vote...because in the end everyone thinks how they think and are going to vote how they are going to vote...if there is 6+ votes on whatever it is it really makes no difference if I was against it and didn't get to vote...because without me there was 6+ votes anyhow so it was going to pass no matter what...

Morehead State
08-06-2012, 02:15 PM
This league is such a ****show. You'd figure over a 4 year period you would have all gotten your **** together.....

Arent you guyus embarassed that you do this EVERY year? it's awful. And you wonder why I didn't want to play last year? lol
But its still awesome. Deal with the crap.

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 02:15 PM
Lets have a vote. i want the flex to include QBs too

I'm down, one vote for YES!

byron
08-06-2012, 02:16 PM
the vote was between 2 wr flex and 3 wr, period end of story. EXACTLY. Well, except that wasnt the end of the story and some other random vote was brought that i never voted on nor saw the results for. 3 wr isnt what i wanted, but i prefer it over 3 wr + flex and i voted accordingly.there was absolutely no reason to vote again on something that had been decided. your analogy is terrible. an analogy that fits the bill would be a vote on whether or not qb td points should be 4 or 6. Say 6 wins, well now **** that i dont like that, lets vote for qb td points being 5 points. Doesnt make much sense to me. obviously the vote should be more procedural you can't just be throwing votes in cause you don't like the results and such ....Matt was just trying to find something that maybe everybody would like he wasn't trying to piss everybody off or manipulate anything....end of the day the vote could have handled a little better......but the votes were there for the change I know that I saw them

byron
08-06-2012, 02:19 PM
lol
4 years isnt baby steps! it should be a well-oiled machine!

What's the opposite of a well-oiled machine? lol squeaky wheel !

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 02:20 PM
I'm down, one vote for YES!Thats 2also if we're really gonna do this flex we need alot of roster spots

dezzzR
08-06-2012, 02:20 PM
lol
4 years isnt baby steps! it should be a well-oiled machine!

What's the opposite of a well-oiled machine? lola rusty machine?

Morehead State
08-06-2012, 02:23 PM
obviously the vote should be more procedural you can't just be throwing votes in cause you don't like the results and such ....Matt was just trying to find something that maybe everybody would like he wasn't trying to piss everybody off or manipulate anything....end of the day the vote could have handled a little better......but the votes were there for the change I know that I saw them
Matt wanted 3 WR and flex all along. Why would you vote on another format when we already voted on 2 WR plus flex?

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 02:28 PM
Matt wanted 3 WR and flex all along. Why would you vote on another format when we already voted on 2 WR plus flex?i still would like to know the official tally.it looks like:2wr flex: me bb4417 mh kase3 wr flex: matt amanda daven and byron?I dont know the other votes

byron
08-06-2012, 02:28 PM
Agreed I think this is exactly what happened, but the thing is if we are doing the votes on the forums then inevitable some people are going to miss it, until we come up with some other place to do it it's always going to be like this, the thing I don't get is the league rules are based on votes right? so it really doesn't matter per say if "You" or "I" get to see a particular vote...because in the end everyone thinks how they think and are going to vote how they are going to vote...if there is 6+ votes on whatever it is it really makes no difference if I was against it and didn't get to vote...because without me there was 6+ votes anyhow so it was going to pass no matter what...
I hear ya Daven maybe in the future, a period of time is set to get all issues to be voted listed after that period of time no more votes can be added for the leauge year.. strait up or down vote

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 02:29 PM
an analogy that fits the bill would be a vote on whether or not qb td points should be 4 or 6. Say 6 wins, well now **** that i dont like that, lets vote for qb td points being 5 points. Doesnt make much sense to me.

It's just a difference of opinion, my analogy was there to show you how "I" view it, I really see zero difference between my analogy and yours, both analogies show 2 separate votes which have nothing to do with each other, in your analogy it's still two separate votes, I don't care that it effects the same thing, after it is passed for 5 points if someone wants to make it 10 pts and it goes to vote then that'd be separate from the two previous votes before it...they are all separate...at least that's my view.

byron
08-06-2012, 02:33 PM
i still would like to know the official tally.it looks like:2wr flex: me bb4417 mh kase3 wr flex: matt amanda daven and byron?I dont know the other votes

NO FLEX: Me, Amanda, Byron, Lando,LT

YES FLEX: Daven, Lawl, Sharick, Kase,Pats,Flippy

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 02:34 PM
Matt wanted 3 WR and flex all along. Why would you vote on another format when we already voted on 2 WR plus flex?

no, Matt wanted 3WR's all along, he absolutely hates 2WR+Flex because in his world that means that Running Backs "HAVE" to be drafted first by everyone no matter what...and he thinks that's boring...

of course since WR and RB's are equal now (even though he won't admit that it's the truth) that's obviously not the case, but in his mind it is so no matter what he wants there to be 3WR....to...in his mind, make it harder to draft a good team.

byron
08-06-2012, 02:36 PM
Matt wanted 3 WR and flex all along. Why would you vote on another format when we already voted on 2 WR plus flex? matt was no-flex from the beginning...he put the 3wr flex up as a compromise......this ****ing awesome hahahah

byron
08-06-2012, 02:38 PM
motion to send it all back to conference and repeal/ re vote !!!

Morehead State
08-06-2012, 02:39 PM
NO FLEX: Me, Amanda, Byron, Lando,LT

YES FLEX: Daven, Lawl, Sharick, Kase,Pats,Flippy
Thats Mr. Flippy to you.

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 02:42 PM
motion to send it all back to conference and repeal/ re vote !!!

LOL Seconded!

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 02:46 PM
NO FLEX: Me, Amanda, Byron, Lando,LTYES FLEX: Daven, Lawl, Sharick, Kase,Pats,Flippyi mean who voted for 3 wr+flex? i know 2 wr+flex won the initial vote but apparently there was another vote

byron
08-06-2012, 02:49 PM
i mean who voted for 3 wr+flex? i know 2 wr+flex won the initial vote but apparently there was another vote you sure you want to open up that can of worms ?!....lol


I'll fess up.... I did... not sure why anymore,Daven, Matt and I believe Amanda...the others know who they are

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 02:58 PM
you sure you want to open up that can of worms ?!....lol

I Know me Amanda and Matt did not sure who else.

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 03:22 PM
I Know me Amanda and Matt did not sure who else.It sounds like me bb4417 Kase and MH voted for 2 WR. That leaves pats and sharick and some other person unaccounted for

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 03:30 PM
I want to clarify lawl...(or imgrate :P) I voted for 2WR+Flex over 3WR, but I also voted for 3WR+Flex over 2WR+Flex.

My reasoning is (I know you don't care) that 3WR+Flex makes the league have to dig deeper then 2WR+Flex.

byron
08-06-2012, 03:35 PM
It sounds like me bb4417 Kase and MH voted for 2 WR. That leaves pats and sharick and some other person unaccounted for go back to pages 13576,13577,13578

Lawl you participated in the vote
13576---matt
NEW VOTE

2 WR FLEX: Lawl, Pappy

3 WR FLEX: Me, Daven, Amanda, Sharick


Still needing to vote: Pats, Lando, Kase, byron, and LT

I voted 3wr flex at that point we needed one vote to win
page13578 MH voted 3wrs flex

making it 3wr Flex...matt,Amanda,Sharick,Daven,Byron,MH
2wr flex...Lawl

definitely a trend here..;)

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 03:49 PM
MH is mad about the vote, but voted for 3 WR + flex anyway?Weird.

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 03:50 PM
For now on we shouldn't vote for anything. Commisioner makes the league and if you don't like the rules then don't join

Morehead State
08-06-2012, 03:51 PM
For now on we shouldn't vote for anything. Commisioner makes the league and if you don't like the rules then don't join
Only because 2 plus flex had already lost. I conceded defeat.

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 04:00 PM
I don't agree with that Lawl, we definitely should have the ability to bring up and vote on issues at the beginning of each year, do we need a better place to do it then on the forums, yeah probably, but being able to change the rules around from year to year is fun (unless we one day do keepers...then it becomes an issue)

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 04:05 PM
I don't agree with that Lawl, we definitely should have the ability to bring up and vote on issues at the beginning of each year, do we need a better place to do it then on the forums, yeah probably, but being able to change the rules around from year to year is fun (unless we one day do keepers...then it becomes an issue)

that's a good point. I THINK there are a few sites that you can host temporary polls. that'd be a cool option, but admittedly i cant think of a site off the top of my head so i dont know much about it

byron
08-06-2012, 04:12 PM
that's a good point. I THINK there are a few sites that you can host temporary polls. that'd be a cool option, but admittedly i cant think of a site off the top of my head so i dont know much about it I agree with you both the voting process just needs to be cleaned up we all want the same thing...." the most awesome league of all time" and we are getting really close !

taking voting away would ruin everythng

bigblue4417
08-06-2012, 04:17 PM
And to think, if MH didnt change his mind none of this would be happening.

Morehead State
08-06-2012, 04:20 PM
And to think, if MH didnt change his mind none of this would be happening.
I'm the monkey in the wrench baby.

Forget the "switching vote" I thought about it and like the flex plus 2 better. So blame anyone who voted the same way.

bigblue4417
08-06-2012, 04:21 PM
3 wr 2 rb and flex is too easy. No tough decisions Will have to be made regarding who to start and sit. You can just play everyone.

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 04:24 PM
3 wr 2 rb and flex is too easy. No tough decisions Will have to be made regarding who to start and sit. You can just play everyone.

yup. that's a league I'd let uneducated women play in....because it's all no-brainers. it's literally idiot proof. so terrible.

byron
08-06-2012, 04:26 PM
Matt is going to sign on tonight around 7:00.... myself the new rule is fine I'd play either way...but lets just get to it if it doesn't work out its not like it can't be fixed down the road ...

byron
08-06-2012, 04:38 PM
3 wr 2 rb and flex is too easy. No tough decisions Will have to be made regarding who to start and sit. You can just play everyone. my thinking is it makes the draft more difficult.... I see what you are saying...when I made my vote I don't think I throught about that...

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 04:39 PM
you guys are funny, I think 3WR 2RB + Flex is going to be WAY harder than you guys anticipate.

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 04:41 PM
you guys are funny, I think 3WR 2RB + Flex is going to be WAY harder than you guys anticipate.

I think you jsut suck at fantasy football ;)

byron
08-06-2012, 04:41 PM
I'm the monkey in the wrench baby.

Forget the "switching vote" I thought about it and like the flex plus 2 better. So blame anyone who voted the same way.but you voted wr3 flex..

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 04:45 PM
I think you jsut suck at fantasy football ;)

Lol if you look at this leagues records you'd think so!

But I've been playing since I was a little kid...I know I don't.

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 04:49 PM
Lol if you look at this leagues records you'd think so!

But I've been playing since I was a little kid...I know I don't.

yea, and I bet you think youre special too, cuz your mommy told you so! =P

bigblue4417
08-06-2012, 04:51 PM
yup. that's a league I'd let uneducated women play in....because it's all no-brainers. it's literally idiot proof. so terrible.
Which is why it HAS to be changed to one or the other. We are Not rookies here

bigblue4417
08-06-2012, 04:53 PM
you guys are funny, I think 3WR 2RB + Flex is going to be WAY harder than you guys anticipate.
You could play your whole team and lose.

DavenIII
08-06-2012, 05:04 PM
You could play your whole team and lose.

No you can't, to me it seems like everyone's scared of something new, In my opinion it's "definitely" going to be harder, the more players you "HAVE" to start the deeper you need to search for players....

In my opinion there is no difference between increasing the members of the league or increasing the players each team needs to start....both in the end do the same thing, make the league harder...because you need to search deeper on depth charts for players.

everyone would agree adding more teams makes a league more difficult to win in, yet everyone's arguing that adding more players makes it easier...but that doesn't make sense since essentially more teams vs more players does the same thing.

byron
08-06-2012, 06:06 PM
You could play your whole team and lose. I get what your saying the weekly game play has been made easier given the fact we increased the starting roster by 1 and the flex option give you three chances to hit or miss each week .....but one team loses every week so I'm not sure what your saying...I liked it the way it was last year and voted as such....my second vote was influenced by the debate and I'll be honest I didn't think it all out and probably shouldn't have voted.....I had lost my vote "the one I cared about" another reason why I shouldn't have voted on the second...

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 06:46 PM
No you can't, to me it seems like everyone's scared of something new, In my opinion it's "definitely" going to be harder, the more players you "HAVE" to start the deeper you need to search for players....In my opinion there is no difference between increasing the members of the league or increasing the players each team needs to start....both in the end do the same thing, make the league harder...because you need to search deeper on depth charts for players.everyone would agree adding more teams makes a league more difficult to win in, yet everyone's arguing that adding more players makes it easier...but that doesn't make sense since essentially more teams vs more players does the same thing.It's not something new for me

Imgrate
08-06-2012, 06:55 PM
I don't like having a bunch of scrubs on my roster. Their point output is so low it's not even worth having them on your team. Since this is only a one year thing, then I feel as though ST points need to have some importance so that there are more players that aren't completely useless that can fill out rosters.The only league I use this format is a dynasty league where it truly will show who the better player is. Whoever puts in the most effort in that league can have good players at all those positions and truly dominate.

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 07:40 PM
I don't like having a bunch of scrubs on my roster. Their point output is so low it's not even worth having them on your team. Since this is only a one year thing, then I feel as though ST points need to have some importance so that there are more players that aren't completely useless that can fill out rosters.
this is pretty much how I feel about the whole thing. There's not really much decision making involved with such a huge roster. Sure your draft becomes important, but then it's not a matter of longevity, its just the draft.
You just start your team, and plug in backups on bye weeks...that's it.
I came in 2nd place in this league 2 years ago simply because my opponents were bad when i played them, and because Drew Brees was so ****ing ridiculous that I didnt really care who started on my team. It wasn't because the scrubs were performing, I can tell you that much...

byron
08-06-2012, 07:50 PM
this is pretty much how I feel about the whole thing. There's not really much decision making involved with such a huge roster. Sure your draft becomes important, but then it's not a matter of longevity, its just the draft.
You just start your team, and plug in backups on bye weeks...that's it.
I came 2nd in this league 2 years ago simply because my opponents were bad when i played them, and because Drew Brees was so ****ing ridiculous that I didnt really care who started on my team. It wasn't because the scrubs were performing, I can tell you that much... yeah and as I remember it that was Matts whole thing it made the draft far more competitive and skill oriented ... I brought into that argument and didn't think about the points you make here...I don't know if these/your points were brought out before I voted...again I should have probably throught it all through on my own...but this is what? my 4th year I think as an ff player I made my vote based on the debate at the time ....

becides that I'm just an old carpenter not a rocket scientist ;)

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 08:00 PM
yeah and as I remember it that was Matts whole thing it made the draft far more competitive and skill oriented ... I brought into that argument and didn't think about the points you make here...I don't know if these/your points were brought out before I voted...again I should have probably throught it all through on my own...but this is what? my 4th year I think as an ff player I made my vote based on the debate at the time ....

becides that I'm just an old carpenter not a rocket scientist ;)

Well, I wasnt on the boards for a week or so, came back right at the voting. But at that point I was not in the league, and even when i was asked to be again, I was not allowed to vote due to the rules about the prior year players.
I'm just letting people know why I don't like this unorthodox set up to a league. Changing scoring is fairly normal, because people like to make sure positions are at least close to the same value, but, to have a league that already has 12 players, WITH a deep bench, and now to add flex + an addition WR....idk....that's just boring to me.

byron
08-06-2012, 08:14 PM
Well, I wasnt on the boards for a week or so, came back right at the voting. But at that point I was not in the league, and even when i was asked to be again, I was not allowed to vote due to the rules about the prior year players.
I'm just letting people know why I don't like this unorthodox set up to a league. Changing scoring is fairly normal, because people like to make sure positions are at least close to the same value, but, to have a league that already has 12 players, WITH a deep bench, and now to add flex + an addition WR....idk....that's just boring to me. yeah I hear ya...the other thing too is everybody was chiming in with opions some angry its hard to make sence of and absorb it all sometimes....

byron
08-06-2012, 08:17 PM
hey Jp I wonder how long DB and AR will be on the board this year



arrived last night
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5 total Gracie's first litter she totally didn't get it...it took awhile....

JPizzack
08-06-2012, 10:18 PM
hey Jp I wonder how long DB and AR will be on the board this year



arrived last night
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/409614_453728111315561_18664015_n.jpg

5 total Gracie's first litter she totally didn't get it...it took awhile....

They will all make the mistake of letting Brees fall to me again. Fatal mistake. But that's ok, isn't it?! muahahaha

yaaaay puppies!!! nice congrats!

MattMeyerBud
08-06-2012, 11:47 PM
this is pretty much how I feel about the whole thing. There's not really much decision making involved with such a huge roster. Sure your draft becomes important, but then it's not a matter of longevity, its just the draft.
You just start your team, and plug in backups on bye weeks...that's it.
I came in 2nd place in this league 2 years ago simply because my opponents were bad when i played them, and because Drew Brees was so ****ing ridiculous that I didnt really care who started on my team. It wasn't because the scrubs were performing, I can tell you that much...

You also cried bloody murder when you didn't have your handcuff and somebody else picked them up. Maybe the moral of this story is that you need to focus on your bench more.

And having the ability to pick up legit players to replace injured or slow players is not more strategical. Pick a good team and make the right moves throughout the year

MattMeyerBud
08-06-2012, 11:48 PM
3 wr 2 rb and flex is too easy. No tough decisions Will have to be made regarding who to start and sit. You can just play everyone.

I agree it sucks, just not as bad as 2 wr flex sucks

MattMeyerBud
08-06-2012, 11:51 PM
what I don't like about this comment is you are suggesting that the 3wr vote has something to do with the flex vote...they are completely separate votes and have nothing to do with one another.

we decided as a league that having a flex position is good, period end of story over.

then Matt...being butt hurt over it decided to make up for that he was going to try an add another WR spot to the roster.

that's an entirely different vote that the league also decided was a good idea.

now everyone seems to be angry about 3WR+Flex....fine, whatever...but the point is we agreed on flex we just don't seem to agree on Flex AND 3wr's...since Flex was passed first the only thing up for discussion should be 3 WR's

Wow what a 180. The history is there I said we'd take the compromise vote before the main vote was over and ven in that 5 minutes where ok Mammy switched her vote

MattMeyerBud
08-06-2012, 11:52 PM
you guys are funny, I think 3WR 2RB + Flex is going to be WAY harder than you guys anticipate.

Lol it absolutely is. I'm in a league like that last year. Leads to more trades, more decisions.

MattMeyerBud
08-06-2012, 11:53 PM
Which is why it HAS to be changed to one or the other. We are Not rookies here

The biggest rookie leagues are 2 we flex, make no mistake on that

MattMeyerBud
08-06-2012, 11:55 PM
And to think, if MH didnt change his mind none of this would be happening.

But it would of. Whatever thread page I posted the other day would of showed u that.

U guys complain about everything not being fair, so we vote and then u complain about voting. Is comical

MattMeyerBud
08-06-2012, 11:57 PM
you sure you want to open up that can of worms ?!....lol


I'll fess up.... I did... not sure why anymore,Daven, Matt and I believe Amanda...the others know who they are

I believe it was me, Byron, Amanda, daven, lando, and somebody else I forgot

Kase-1
08-06-2012, 11:58 PM
Lol it absolutely is. I'm in a league like that last year. Leads to more trades, more decisions.More trades and more decisions depend on the people not the setup of the league

3WR Flex sucks the ol brasciole

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:00 AM
the whole flex vote starts on page 15546.....I'll say this matt was talking about the 3wr flex thing very early in the vote/debate....the second vote happened right after two wr flex passed....lol.........it went like this 3wr passed matt called it then mh changed his vote 2wr/flex wins matt calls that then calls for the 3wr/flex vote it passes final.....I was there !.......I don't care what the rule is but I would like to see the voting process cleaned up it ill eliminate these cluster ****s .....

Holy Christ, are u guys om crack

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:03 AM
I know my vote doesnt count...but the phrase "compromise vote" is totally not true. the bottom line is that if some people knew 3WR + flex was an option, they wouldnt have voted for flex. Lawl is correct.

That's exactly what it was. Me and Dave's were fighting for days. He said havi a flex brings strategy - I said it didn't with only 2 starting wr's

It was debated for pages

JPizzack
08-07-2012, 12:08 AM
You also cried bloody murder when you didn't have your handcuff and somebody else picked them up. Maybe the moral of this story is that you need to focus on your bench more.

please refer to my 23908492 arguments about all 12 members of the league strictly relying on waiver wire priority. explain to me how that's at all strategy.
If you draft bradshaw this year, are you going to also draft Wilson in the next round, followed by Ware and Scott? No....youre not.

And if you recall, I DID have Ryan Grant's handcuff that year.....go check the league archive.

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:09 AM
Got a text bak from LT. He votes standard. I say we vote on the compromise of flex and 3 wrs. Only reason he voted standard is because he's new and that's what it was last year.

What do u think of voting on the compromise?

LT was the deciding vote, 11th man so screw all of u who said I was trying to manipulate anything. Page 13570

byron
08-07-2012, 12:10 AM
Holy Christ, are u guys om crack I have'nt done crack for years ! damage may have been done tho !

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:11 AM
I would absolutely look to draft Wilson if I have Bradshaw. I would also look to get Gehart if I get AP, Jennings if I get MJD, hills if I get Charles, spiller if I get Jackson, Felix if I get Murray.

byron
08-07-2012, 12:12 AM
LT was the deciding vote, 11th man so screw all of u who said I was trying to manipulate anything. Page 13570 I was trying to point that out in my crack post....

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:12 AM
I have'nt done crack for years ! damage may have been done tho !

Lol"..........

JPizzack
08-07-2012, 12:13 AM
That's exactly what it was. Me and Dave's were fighting for days. He said havi a flex brings strategy - I said it didn't with only 2 starting wr's

It was debated for pages

well once again, i couldnt vote.....but i was not here for that regardless. lol

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:13 AM
More trades and more decisions depend on the people not the setup of the league

3WR Flex sucks the ol brasciole

I don't think it's great either, just heavily better than 2 we flex

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:15 AM
And Byron the point u missed in that is even when I called it the first time when before pappy flip flopped I said we would vote on the compromise

JPizzack
08-07-2012, 12:16 AM
I would absolutely look to draft Wilson if I have Bradshaw. I would also look to get Gehart if I get AP, Jennings if I get MJD, hills if I get Charles, spiller if I get Jackson, Felix if I get Murray.

yea....youd LOOK TO
it doesnt matter....handcuffing is fantasy football 101....it's even more dull since we have so many starting roster spots where it doesnt even matter who is on your bench.

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:16 AM
well once again, i couldnt vote.....but i was not here for that regardless. lol

No I get it but by all the points that were being made on the floor it was absolutely the ultimate compromise

byron
08-07-2012, 12:17 AM
Lol".......... by the way u sad 7ish me and jp been waiting all evening what gives!

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:17 AM
yea....youd LOOK TO
it doesnt matter....it's fantasy football 101....it's even more dull since we have so many starting roster spots where it doesnt even matter who is on your bench.Making a conscious effort and looking to reach in some of those cases.

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:19 AM
And regardless pizz u listed guys with top 10 round backups. My main point is instead of taking late round fliers for no reason maybe take a late pick in McKnight if you have Greene, maybe go ware if u have Bradshaw and can't get Willis, Jacobs if u got gore, Goodson if u got mcfad

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:20 AM
by the way u sad 7ish me and jp been waiting all evening what gives!

Lol my bad. Putting in a huge jersey order. 48 jerseys. Took forever

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:20 AM
yea....youd LOOK TO
it doesnt matter....handcuffing is fantasy football 101....it's even more dull since we have so many starting roster spots where it doesnt even matter who is on your bench.As long As your bunch doesn't matter

byron
08-07-2012, 12:21 AM
And Byron the point u missed in that is even when I called it the first time when before pappy flip flopped I said we would vote on the compromise no man I knew you did Matt....I just didn't say it very good ...the booze done a lot damage good thing I stopped when I did ..
I posted some page links that show what u say is true over the weekend...

Kase-1
08-07-2012, 12:24 AM
No I get it but by all the points that were being made on the floor it was absolutely the ultimate compromise You may think it was the ultimate comprimise but I dont believe anyone is happy with it. I think most of us would rather have just had 3WR rather than 3WR Flex

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:25 AM
Well there is only one way to do this fair since everyone is saying their vote will change if one other thing gets voted in. Standard, 2 wr flex, 3 we flex.

Everybody put their top 2 choices. First choice gets two points, second choice gets 1 point. Most points wins

Kase-1
08-07-2012, 12:26 AM
And regardless pizz u listed guys with top 10 round backups. My main point is instead of taking late round fliers for no reason maybe take a late pick in McKnight if you have Greene, maybe go ware if u have Bradshaw and can't get Willis, Jacobs if u got gore, Goodson if u got mcfadLOL the Jets are such a joke. Greene would be a decent RB if he was a backup for a great RB, he cant do it as the starter

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:26 AM
You may think it was the ultimate comprimise but I dont believe anyone is happy with it. I think most of us would rather have just had 3WR rather than 3WR Flex

That's how it turned out but everybody was agreeing with Dave's points who was front running the argument and he likes the idea

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:27 AM
no man I knew you did Matt....I just didn't say it very good ...the booze done a lot damage good thing I stopped when I did ..
I posted some page links that show what u say is true over the weekend...Lol big b u know I love ya

Kase-1
08-07-2012, 12:27 AM
Well there is only one way to do this fair since everyone is saying their vote will change if one other thing gets voted in. Standard, 2 wr flex, 3 we flex.

Everybody put their top 2 choices. First choice gets two points, second choice gets 1 point. Most points wins
1st Choice: 2WR Flex
2nd Choice: 3WR

byron
08-07-2012, 12:32 AM
Lol big b u know I love ya the very first comment about the compromise

page 13547 Matt and I talking

[/quote] Matt... WR is deep this year, even for a mandatory 3 receiver starts... i would be okay with a flex if we HAVE to start 3 wrs and 2 rbs and 1 flex.... but people wat 2rbs 2 WRs and 1 flex... it just is weak sauce[/quote] Byron ....make the flex spot rb/te, 3wrs, 2rbs......jk... I'm good with no flex.......

I was there!!

byron
08-07-2012, 12:38 AM
Well there is only one way to do this fair since everyone is saying their vote will change if one other thing gets voted in. Standard, 2 wr flex, 3 we flex.

Everybody put their top 2 choices. First choice gets two points, second choice gets 1 point. Most points wins
oh man...
first choice 3wrs no flex
second choice 3wrs flex..........this is the way I voted first time around

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:40 AM
oh man...
first choice 3wrs no flex
second choice 3wrs flex..........this is the way I voted first time around

Vote the way u want. U can change if u want

byron
08-07-2012, 12:45 AM
Vote the way u want. U can change if u want thats the way I voted matt I'll stand by it I would'nt feel right changing...
all I've been trying to do is set the record strait on the chain of events really nothing else really and nobody care about that ! lol

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:53 AM
thats the way I voted matt I'll stand by it I would'nt feel right changing...
all I've been trying to do is set the record strait on the chain of events really nothing else really and nobody care about that ! lol we're starting from scratch. I'm changing my vote. I did essentially have the compromise first cuz I thought it would make everybody happy.

Vote the way u want

MattMeyerBud
08-07-2012, 12:54 AM
LOL the Jets are such a joke. Greene would be a decent RB if he was a backup for a great RB, he cant do it as the starter I dunno, they get rid of one of the worst OC's n the league and got one that loves to run now