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MattMeyerBud
08-15-2012, 09:38 AM
curious? no....
I mean it could just be that he and I have the same understanding of standard.

First all, i have no idea why in literally the 4th year of this league, and there has to be any voting about anything. Where's the consistency? Things have to be changed every year, and nobody sees a problem with that?

every year people want different things - so yea seeing as how the voting has changed the league format multiple times

MattMeyerBud
08-15-2012, 09:39 AM
next year someone should explore the options of a voting website for polls and such.

i know they exist, i just dont know anything about it.

yahoo message boards actually has polls on it now

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 09:45 AM
yahoo message boards actually has polls on it now

nice. havent seen it used yet, but thats awesome

DavenIII
08-15-2012, 09:49 AM
If you have XM listen to the fantasy football channel. Thats how its universally used on there as well.

I do not have XM Radio anymore, I'm assuming most don't...so stop being deliberately confusing to try and get what you want.

byron
08-15-2012, 09:59 AM
hey guys question I'm thinking about taking a train into NJ for thee game...there are a couple of stations I did some research the airport in Newark seems like the best bet fairly close to the stadium...and I believe I can rent a car there ...wondering what you think is the another option/station ?

Morehead State
08-15-2012, 10:08 AM
nice. havent seen it used yet, but thats awesome
At this point, I really don't give a **** what format we use. Lets just decide already. Its not worth all this back and forth.

byron
08-15-2012, 10:14 AM
At this point, I really don't give a **** what format we use. Lets just decide already. Its not worth all this back and forth. Yeaaa!!!!!.......

dezzzR
08-15-2012, 10:30 AM
have u ever heard her talk?

I totally get it... don't condone it, but totally get ithahaha yea last night on hardknocks, sounds like a diva. Chad was saying how she wouldnt sleep with him if he didnt play well. Said last year was a very bad year for him

Morehead State
08-15-2012, 10:42 AM
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Holy crap! My daughter just bought me a new Mac!

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 11:09 AM
Holy crap! My daughter just bought me a new Mac!

Now you can be a mac fanboy!! lol
congrats. now when you somehow mess up that computer, we REALLY know you dont know what youre doing ;)

MattMeyerBud
08-15-2012, 12:01 PM
At this point, I really don't give a **** what format we use. Lets just decide already. Its not worth all this back and forth.

who are u and what have u done with moorehead

Morehead State
08-15-2012, 12:13 PM
who are u and what have u done with moorehead
Don't you think its getting a little silly here? Lets just go with something so we know what we're dealing with.

I'd obviously prefer 2WR plus flex. But I really don't care if you just declare the format. Obviously, we won't get everyone to vote.

SO FRIGGIN" DECIDE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!

MattMeyerBud
08-15-2012, 12:26 PM
Don't you think its getting a little silly here? Lets just go with something so we know what we're dealing with.

I'd obviously prefer 2WR plus flex. But I really don't care if you just declare the format. Obviously, we won't get everyone to vote.

SO FRIGGIN" DECIDE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!

too many tears have been shed in here, alot by you, so we will vote everything through

Morehead State
08-15-2012, 12:37 PM
too many tears have been shed in here, alot by you, so we will vote everything through
How the **** long does it take to vote? I say a vote should have a 1 day time limit. Lets get on with it already. If guys are unavailable thats to damn bad. Take the vote totals you have now and thats it.

dezzzR
08-15-2012, 12:42 PM
http://www.unitedinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Better-Branding-Through-Bickering.jpg

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 12:46 PM
How the **** long does it take to vote? I say a vote should have a 1 day time limit. Lets get on with it already. If guys are unavailable thats to damn bad. Take the vote totals you have now and thats it.

Shutup Morehead, this league is awesome, and is a well-oiled machine.

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 12:47 PM
http://www.unitedinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/better-branding-through-bickering.jpg

loud noises!!!!!

Morehead State
08-15-2012, 01:15 PM
Shutup Morehead, this league is awesome, and is a well-oiled machine.
My voice will never be silenced.

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 01:21 PM
My voice will never be silenced.

You really need to listen to Rage against The Machine, like Matt and I....lol

Morehead State
08-15-2012, 01:38 PM
You really need to listen to Rage against The Machine, like Matt and I....lol
They suck. Like most bands of the last 20 years. No one knows how to write a song anymore.

byron
08-15-2012, 01:43 PM
How the **** long does it take to vote? I say a vote should have a 1 day time limit. Lets get on with it already. If guys are unavailable thats to damn bad. Take the vote totals you have now and thats it. I don't think its unreasonable to have/or expect votes to be done in a timely manner and I also understand its not that easy to get everyone in here.. but since we are all crying about that I guess the rght thing to do is make all us baby's wait...thats fine.....clarification is a good thing.... I'll cry no more

bigblue4417
08-15-2012, 03:34 PM
How the **** long does it take to vote? I say a vote should have a 1 day time limit. Lets get on with it already. If guys are unavailable thats to damn bad. Take the vote totals you have now and thats it.We wouldn't have to vote if you didn't change your mind.

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 03:41 PM
we wouldn't have to vote if you didn't change your mind.

yea!!!!!!!!

Imgrate
08-15-2012, 04:52 PM
We wouldn't have to vote if you didn't change your mind.I know right. its similar to someone changing their favorite baseball team. Who does that?!

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 06:00 PM
I know right. its similar to someone changing their favorite baseball team. Who does that?!

HA!! love it.

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 06:27 PM
King Felix pitches a perfect game!!! Beast....

JPizzack
08-15-2012, 07:00 PM
Melky tests positive for testosterone....

so who won that debate exactly?

Morehead State
08-15-2012, 07:55 PM
We wouldn't have to vote if you didn't change your mind.A
ah the irony.

MattMeyerBud
08-16-2012, 09:36 AM
How the **** long does it take to vote? I say a vote should have a 1 day time limit. Lets get on with it already. If guys are unavailable thats to damn bad. Take the vote totals you have now and thats it.


and god forbid you weren't around that day of the voting and the vote went against something u want, i could actually foresee the Kleenex company's stock rising on the DOW

MattMeyerBud
08-16-2012, 09:38 AM
You really need to listen to Rage against The Machine, like Matt and I....lol

goddamn right

MattMeyerBud
08-16-2012, 09:38 AM
They suck. Like most bands of the last 20 years. No one knows how to write a song anymore.

except Old Guns

MattMeyerBud
08-16-2012, 09:39 AM
I don't think its unreasonable to have/or expect votes to be done in a timely manner and I also understand its not that easy to get everyone in here.. but since we are all crying about that I guess the rght thing to do is make all us baby's wait...thats fine.....clarification is a good thing.... I'll cry no more

or if it bothers people so much, they know who hasn't voted, why don't they get on fbook and force the people too

i've just been real busy between working two jobs, possibly moving, renting my current apartment, and doing wedding ****.

MattMeyerBud
08-16-2012, 09:39 AM
and thats not directed to you byron

MattMeyerBud
08-16-2012, 09:40 AM
We wouldn't have to vote if you didn't change your mind.

well thats kind of true but not in the sense your referring

Morehead State
08-16-2012, 09:53 AM
except Old Guns

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/cazaman15/photo1-1.jpg?t=1339988453

DavenIII
08-16-2012, 10:07 AM
well thats kind of true but not in the sense your referring

The one thing I don't get about all this voting butthurt is the fact that we have 11 voters right? if 6 people vote one way why does someone else care if they missed the vote? it's not like they could have changed the outcome if they were to have voted anyhow.

for example I want Flex right? if 7 people voted standard while I wasn't around like over the weekend or something, I come on and see the league switched to standard im not gonna get all butthurt that I missed it because....obviously if enough people voted to finalize the vote then my vote didn't matter anyhow.

DavenIII
08-16-2012, 10:08 AM
If I'm ever up there when you guys have a show I'm coming, do you have a list of your gigs?

Morehead State
08-16-2012, 10:18 AM
If I'm ever up there when you guys have a show I'm coming, do you have a list of your gigs?
We had our final show last Friday. Our lead singer moved back to Philly.
He chose his wife over his bandmates.

Friggin Bros's before Ho's buthead!!!!!!

I'm working on starting a new band though.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 10:22 AM
We had our final show last Friday. Our lead singer moved back to Philly.
He chose his wife over his bandmates.

Friggin Bros's before Ho's buthead!!!!!!

I'm working on starting a new band though.

lol....damn him

Morehead State
08-16-2012, 10:25 AM
lol....damn him
What do you expect for an Eagles fan.

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 10:43 AM
Well Matt, I guess we know why Melky was doing so well now

Morehead State
08-16-2012, 10:46 AM
Well Matt, I guess we know why Melky was doing so well now
Matt was the first person I thought of when I heard that.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 10:54 AM
Well Matt, I guess we know why Melky was doing so well now

Matt didnt respond when I posted this about this yesterday.....he quoted and replied to like everything EXCEPT that.... >.<

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 11:02 AM
Matt was the first person I thought of when I heard that.Me too. haha

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 11:03 AM
Its actually makes me a bit nervous about Cano though. Theyre really good friends.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 11:17 AM
Its actually makes me a bit nervous about Cano though. Theyre really good friends.

I thought that also....cano might be the next on the "random test" list for that reason probably.

However, Cano has been consistently good for like 4+ years now....its not like he sucked and is now magically competing for a batting title like Melky...so i dont think anything is going on.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 11:21 AM
OR.....maybe Melky was jealous of Cano, so he had to take testosterone to even be half the man he is. lol

byron
08-16-2012, 11:36 AM
or if it bothers people so much, they know who hasn't voted, why don't they get on fbook and force the people too

i've just been real busy between working two jobs, possibly moving, renting my current apartment, and doing wedding ****. yea I know Matt Lando knows I'll tell mr green the other two I have no idea how to get in touch with them ....

byron
08-16-2012, 11:42 AM
The one thing I don't get about all this voting butthurt is the fact that we have 11 voters right? if 6 people vote one way why does someone else care if they missed the vote? it's not like they could have changed the outcome if they were to have voted anyhow.

for example I want Flex right? if 7 people voted standard while I wasn't around like over the weekend or something, I come on and see the league switched to standard im not gonna get all butthurt that I missed it because....obviously if enough people voted to finalize the vote then my vote didn't matter anyhow. I see no problem with what your saying but at least notify everyone there is a vote ...no? this vote going on is a multiple choice looks like everyones vote is needed....and then there is the draft date and trying to get it so everyone can make it ....

byron
08-16-2012, 11:45 AM
and thats not directed to you byron I'll help Matt

post up the latest count and who needs to vote if you can ...and the draft date proposal I'll hit up G ,Lando and leave Pats a message on the ff site I can send Lt a pm I got to go back to work but I will do this stuff tonight if you want ...

MattMeyerBud
08-16-2012, 12:08 PM
The one thing I don't get about all this voting butthurt is the fact that we have 11 voters right? if 6 people vote one way why does someone else care if they missed the vote? it's not like they could have changed the outcome if they were to have voted anyhow.

for example I want Flex right? if 7 people voted standard while I wasn't around like over the weekend or something, I come on and see the league switched to standard im not gonna get all butthurt that I missed it because....obviously if enough people voted to finalize the vote then my vote didn't matter anyhow.

na if majority gets the vote, then the vote ends. We don't continue it

MattMeyerBud
08-16-2012, 12:09 PM
Matt didnt respond when I posted this about this yesterday.....he quoted and replied to like everything EXCEPT that.... >.<

haha didn't see it...

Melk man delivered and he will still play more games than Gardenerthis year

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 12:44 PM
haha didn't see it...

Melk man delivered and he will still play more games than Gardenerthis year

lol.....ooook then....

I'm fairly indifferent about the use of PEDs in sports....i used to super opposed to it like the majority(i assume), but these days, it's hard to stand that ground.

I was watching some stand up, Daniel Tosh....and he was like:
we NEED steroids in sports....baseball specifically. who wants to watch a pitching duel!?!?
We'll put an asterisk next to Barry Bonds' name, sure, as soon as we put one next to Babe Ruth's name. Getting to break records before black people were allowed to play? Excuse me, where is that asterisk? Why don't people talk about that?

lol...i mean the guy is a tool, but im inclined to agree with him.

DavenIII
08-16-2012, 12:47 PM
na if majority gets the vote, then the vote ends. We don't continue it

No kidding :P

my point is that certain people in the league get ****ing pissed when a vote happens and is finalized before they see it, they get legit angry because they didn't get to vote.

but my point is why do they get angry?...obviously whether they voted or not makes literally no difference what so ever because there were enough votes to pass whatever it was before they saw it...you know what I'm saying? I don't understand...why get pissed at something you can't change, it's like being angry that the sun is so bright or the sky is blue.....what is, is. why get all angry.

Imgrate
08-16-2012, 12:49 PM
So can we hurry up and pick a format so I can draft McCoy

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 12:53 PM
No kidding :P

my point is that certain people in the league get ****ing pissed when a vote happens and is finalized before they see it, they get legit angry because they didn't get to vote.

but my point is why do they get angry?...obviously whether they voted or not makes literally no difference what so ever because there were enough votes to pass whatever it was before they saw it...you know what I'm saying? I don't understand...why get pissed at something you can't change, it's like being angry that the sun is so bright or the sky is blue.....what is, is. why get all angry.

because they are taken out of the democratic process. Fine, i guess I wont vote for your candidate in the presidential elections, since my vote wont count on such a grand scale anyway!!
=]

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 12:54 PM
lol.....ooook then....

I'm fairly indifferent about the use of PEDs in sports....i used to super opposed to it like the majority(i assume), but these days, it's hard to stand that ground.

I was watching some stand up, Daniel Tosh....and he was like:
we NEED steroids in sports....baseball specifically. who wants to watch a pitching duel!?!?
We'll put an asterisk next to Barry Bonds' name, sure, as soon as we put one next to Babe Ruth's name. Getting to break records before black people were allowed to play? Excuse me, where is that asterisk? Why don't people talk about that?

lol...i mean the guy is a tool, but im inclined to agree with him.Considering African Americans only make up around 8.5% of the league, I disagree. Tosh is funny as hell, but sometimes he misses completely.

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 12:55 PM
haha didn't see it...

Melk man delivered and he will still play more games than Gardenerthis yearYea, he should of stuck to drinking milk. He cheated

DavenIII
08-16-2012, 01:01 PM
because they are taken out of the democratic process. Fine, i guess I wont vote for your candidate in the presidential elections, since my vote wont count on such a grand scale anyway!!
=]

I mean I see what you are saying and when it comes to the selection of the next president of the united states it's a very important thing.

but whether the league is "MMB Standard" or "Flex" really you are going to get angry you didn't take part in the process even though if you had the results would have been the same?

I don't know I just don't get it, if a vote was done over the weekend and I missed it and came back to find it was passed I might ask who voted for what....but if it passed it passed...nothing I can do no reason to get angry.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:09 PM
Considering African Americans only make up around 8.5% of the league, I disagree. Tosh is funny as hell, but sometimes he misses completely.

yes, but over the course of history, its a different story. Look at the majority of the record holders in baseball basketball and football. i think the books speak for themselves.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:09 PM
I mean I see what you are saying and when it comes to the selection of the next president of the united states it's a very important thing.

but whether the league is "MMB Standard" or "Flex" really you are going to get angry you didn't take part in the process even though if you had the results would have been the same?

I don't know I just don't get it, if a vote was done over the weekend and I missed it and came back to find it was passed I might ask who voted for what....but if it passed it passed...nothing I can do no reason to get angry.

I dont have a vote, so no....no im not angry. lol

Morehead State
08-16-2012, 01:11 PM
Considering African Americans only make up around 8.5% of the league, I disagree. Tosh is funny as hell, but sometimes he misses completely.
Well since my Mother is black that gets it up to 12% which is right in line with the national average.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:21 PM
plus, just looking around the all-time stats...the record holders for HRs, RBIs, SBs, Walks...all black players....hits, not so much, although props to Hank Aaron for being top 5 in literally everything lol
The point of the argument Dezz....is that in the early 1900s.....white players didnt have to compete with black players....so the records could have been completely different. And judging by the current numbers....probably would have been different.

edit for typo

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 01:23 PM
So what if they hold records, like the color of their skin is the reason they break the old record. You know who broke Babe Ruths hr season record? A skinny white guy named Roger Marris. And Hank broke his all time HR. A great ball player is a great ball player......

Whos to say Babe would have had more HRs if he was facing black pitchers....

I hate when people inject race into the reason why people perform better than others.

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 01:27 PM
Well since my Mother is black that gets it up to 12% which is right in line with the national average.That went over my head.... where did you see 12%?

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:29 PM
So what if they hold records, like the color of their skin is the reason they break the old record. You know who broke Babe Ruths hr season record? A skinny white guy named Roger Marris. And Hank broke his all time HR. A great ball player is a great ball player......

Whos to say Babe would have had more HRs if he was facing black pitchers....

I hate when people inject race into the reason why people perform better than others.

jeez dezz...... it has nothing to do with black pitchers....

it has to do with the level of competition Ruth and others played alongside in those days.

It's like....the olympic basketball team, kinda. we always had american pros, but always used amatuers/collegiates prior to 92 in the olympics.
If other countries were using their pros, why wouldnt we? just because we had the best athletes.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:32 PM
And it's not just about race either, Dezz. it's about sample size.
Let's take the best HR hitters of the past 20 years or so...
Let's say Mcgwire, Griffey, Bonds, Sosa, A-Rod, etc....you think if they played in the 1920s-30s with the same statistics, that anyone would still think Babe Ruth would have been as dominant in his era? or would it have been more spread out like it is nowadays?

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:37 PM
one thing worht mentioning is that Babe Ruth was a smoking, drunken fat slob.....

The fact that he was able to excell at anything speaks volumes of his ability. lmao

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 01:39 PM
jeez dezz...... it has nothing to do with black pitchers....

it has to do with the level of competition Ruth and others played alongside in those days.

It's like....the olympic basketball team, kinda. we always had american pros, but always used amatuers/collegiates prior to 92 in the olympics.
If other countries were using their pros, why wouldnt we? just because we had the best athletes.And Im saying the level of competition wouldnt have dramatically changed the game like you are suggesting. Its not like when segregation in baseball ended aas started to flood the league. It makes no sense

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 01:41 PM
And it's not just about race either, Dezz. it's about sample size.
Let's take the best HR hitters of the past 20 years or so...
Let's say Mcgwire, Griffey, Bonds, Sosa, A-Rod, etc....you think if they played in the 1920s-30s with the same statistics, that anyone would still think Babe Ruth would have been as dominant in his era? or would it have been more spread out like it is nowadays?THEY ALL ROIDED!! cept jr. COME ON PIZZLE!

Morehead State
08-16-2012, 01:42 PM
That went over my head.... where did you see 12%?
This is what happens where you join the middle of a conversation and fail to understand what everybody's talking about.
Chalk it up to my A.D.D.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:43 PM
And Im saying the level of competition wouldnt have dramatically changed the game like you are suggesting. Its not like when segregation in baseball ended aas started to flood the league. It makes no sense

I'm sorry dezz, i just feel youre missing the point. lol
If baseball would have always been desegregated, black & hispanic athletes could definitely have had a MUCH bigger impact than what you see in the record books.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:44 PM
THEY ALL ROIDED!! cept jr. COME ON PIZZLE!

Jr. is my favorite player of all time, hands down...and damn right! lol
roids were around back then...never know what would have been different. things being different is pretty much the whole point of the argument lol

DavenIII
08-16-2012, 01:45 PM
It's a pointless comparison, everyone is bigger and stronger now compared to the 1920's you bring even run of the mill players from now back to then and they would put up numbers that are silly ridiculous.

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 01:48 PM
And it's not just about race either, Dezz. it's about sample size. <br>
Let's take the best HR hitters of the past 20 years or so...<br>
Let's say <u>Mcgwire, Griffey, Bonds, Sosa, A-Rod,</u> etc....you think if they played in the 1920s-30s with the same statistics, that anyone would still think Babe Ruth would have been as dominant in his era? or would it have been more spread out like it is nowadays? And why wouldnt he still be as dominate if they played in his day? If Granderson hits 40 hr, it has no effect batista will hit 40. Babe competed against Gerhig( one of the best hitters ever) every game.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:50 PM
It's a pointless comparison, everyone is bigger and stronger now compared to the 1920's you bring even run of the mill players from now back to then and they would put up numbers that are silly ridiculous.

sure....and whether you want to bring race into it or not to avoid awkward or politically correct conversation (which clearly i dont give a **** about lol), black players are better athletes 95% of the time. Just so happens that nowadays they all get into football and basketball, so they have a much smaller pop in baseball.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:55 PM
I like that we're at least having a sports conversation in here for once as opposed to this stupid fantasy football league lol...

But don't write off my points so easily! It's an interesting thought to see how our all-time statistics in sports could have been....at least interesting to me...

DavenIII
08-16-2012, 01:55 PM
sure....and whether you want to bring race into it or not to avoid awkward or politically correct conversation (which clearly i dont give a **** about lol), black players are better athletes 95% of the time. Just so happens that nowadays they all get into football and basketball, so they have a much smaller pop in baseball.

I don't know if I agree with that 100%, I think football and basketball lend themselves to what African Americans? are better at, I think in baseball their particular skill set doesn't benefit them as greatly.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 01:59 PM
I don't know if I agree with that 100%, I think football and basketball lend themselves to what African Americans? are better at, I think in baseball their particular skill set doesn't benefit them as greatly.

it's possible. the numbers have declined over the past decade in a half i guess. not that it was ever a huge % of players or anything.

DavenIII
08-16-2012, 02:02 PM
So am I gonna be able to watch the redzone channel on my cable vision now? I have like some premium package...I think this is gonna be awesome.

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 02:03 PM
So am I gonna be able to watch the redzone channel on my cable vision now? I have like some premium package...I think this is gonna be awesome.

i WISH i had cablevision at this point. i hate time warner, and their internet is **** also....

JPizzack
08-16-2012, 02:14 PM
I just noticed that when im just clicking around on my computer, even if im not typing anything, my left hand is always resting on the W - A - D keys.....

PC gamer for lyfe, yo? >.<

dezzzR
08-16-2012, 04:00 PM
hakeem the dream is practicing.

JPizzack
08-17-2012, 08:53 AM
leave for LBI, nj tmrw morning. anyone wanna hit the beach? lol

Morehead State
08-17-2012, 09:30 AM
leave for LBI, nj tmrw morning. anyone wanna hit the beach? lol
Please don't send photos.

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 09:39 AM
lol.....ooook then....

I'm fairly indifferent about the use of PEDs in sports....i used to super opposed to it like the majority(i assume), but these days, it's hard to stand that ground.

I was watching some stand up, Daniel Tosh....and he was like:
we NEED steroids in sports....baseball specifically. who wants to watch a pitching duel!?!?
We'll put an asterisk next to Barry Bonds' name, sure, as soon as we put one next to Babe Ruth's name. Getting to break records before black people were allowed to play? Excuse me, where is that asterisk? Why don't people talk about that?

lol...i mean the guy is a tool, but im inclined to agree with him.

lol i've made that point a million times in here!

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 09:41 AM
jeez dezz...... it has nothing to do with black pitchers....

it has to do with the level of competition Ruth and others played alongside in those days.

It's like....the olympic basketball team, kinda. we always had american pros, but always used amatuers/collegiates prior to 92 in the olympics.
If other countries were using their pros, why wouldnt we? just because we had the best athletes.

plus aren't we forgetting hispanic players as well

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 09:41 AM
i WISH i had cablevision at this point. i hate time warner, and their internet is **** also....

i only read cablevision NY, im not sure if its jersey as well

it would make sense that it would be, but i could see a teabag for jersey residents

DavenIII
08-17-2012, 09:56 AM
I checked channel 150 last night nothing came up (even if you don't have it it'll come up if it's there and tell you to buy it) but it's likely they just haven't gone forward with it yet, they did just sign the contract yesterday, I'll check my parents house tomorrow since I'm gonna be up there anyhow.

Matt, Wingfest is tomorrow, you are 5 minutes from the house WALKING, if you don't stop by I'm gonna be disappointed....it goes from 10AM till 3AMish sunday...there is no excuse for not showing up for 5 minutes.

JPizzack
08-17-2012, 09:58 AM
plus aren't we forgetting hispanic players as well

oh, you mean ALL the good baseball players? lol

dezzzR
08-17-2012, 10:37 AM
oh, you mean ALL the good baseball players? lolThats such a dumb comment. If theyre the "good" ball players why dont they take up the majority of the league?

These stereotypes are stupid.

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 10:46 AM
I checked channel 150 last night nothing came up (even if you don't have it it'll come up if it's there and tell you to buy it) but it's likely they just haven't gone forward with it yet, they did just sign the contract yesterday, I'll check my parents house tomorrow since I'm gonna be up there anyhow.

Matt, Wingfest is tomorrow, you are 5 minutes from the house WALKING, if you don't stop by I'm gonna be disappointed....it goes from 10AM till 3AMish sunday...there is no excuse for not showing up for 5 minutes.

Besides the fact that I'll be in rhode island? Lol

Nfl network isn't suppose to start until today, and I'm not sure jersey gets it. Plus u have to have the silver, gold, or sports package

dezzzR
08-17-2012, 10:47 AM
Whats this "black unicorn"? Did i miss something?

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 10:53 AM
Thats such a dumb comment. If theyre the "good" ball players why dont they take up the majority of the league?

These stereotypes are stupid.

Pizz is exaggerating but it's true thy half the league wouldn't of been allowed to play in Ruth's day. And as for the best players, all u have to do is look at all star rosters and do the simple math. More than half the Allstars arent white.

Keep in mind Jeter wouldn't be able to play either

JPizzack
08-17-2012, 10:57 AM
Pizz is exaggerating but it's true thy half the league wouldn't of been allowed to play in Ruth's day. And as for the best players, all u have to do is look at all star rosters and do the simple math. More than half the Allstars arent white.

Keep in mind Jeter wouldn't be able to play either

yea, im not sure why Dezz didn't get my point yesterday. It's simple. if the players who play today were allowed to play in ruth's era, the record books would be different.
idk what's so hard to understand about that. Dezz made it a race thing...but it's not....its about an innaccurate sample size.

Morehead State
08-17-2012, 11:16 AM
Pizz is exaggerating but it's true thy half the league wouldn't of been allowed to play in Ruth's day. And as for the best players, all u have to do is look at all star rosters and do the simple math. More than half the Allstars arent white.

Keep in mind Jeter wouldn't be able to play either
To me the Golden Age of baseball was the 60's into the early 70's. You had a time where ALL players (white, black hispanic) were allowed to play MLB, and still all the good athletes were playing baseball. Now they gravitate to football and basketball.
There was nothing like Roberto Clemente who was just about the best player I ever saw.
Baseball in the early years was restricted and therefore all the best players weren't playing. And now its all about power and hitting HR's and no one can throw a baseball for God's sakes. Everyone is jacked. The art of baseball is dead.

JPizzack
08-17-2012, 11:18 AM
To me the Golden Age of baseball was the 60's into the early 70's. You had a time where ALL players (white, black hispanic) were allowed to play MLB, and still all the good athletes were playing baseball. Now they gravitate to football and basketball.
There was nothing like Roberto Clemente who was just about the best player I ever saw.
Baseball in the early years was restricted and therefore all the best players weren't playing. And now its all about power and hitting HR's and no one can throw a baseball for God's sakes. Everyone is jacked. The art of baseball is dead.

Yea baseball is a hurting sport. thats why they need to allow PEDs lol

DavenIII
08-17-2012, 11:21 AM
Besides the fact that I'll be in rhode island? Lol

Nfl network isn't suppose to start until today, and I'm not sure jersey gets it. Plus u have to have the silver, gold, or sports package

you are going to be in RI from 10AM sat till 3AM sunday? if so fine acceptable, about the NFL Network, I have a special package just not sure which :P

dezzzR
08-17-2012, 11:26 AM
yea, im not sure why Dezz didn't get my point yesterday. It's simple. if the players who play today were allowed to play in ruth's era, the record books would be different.
idk what's so hard to understand about that. Dezz made it a race thing...but it's not....its about an inaccurate sample size. of course the record books would be different if you put todays hofers back then. todays game has evolved. Baseball has been taught for over 100 years now.
You can make the same statement for any sport. The players have it easier today with scouting reports, trainers, peds. Id be surprised if the babe knew what a dumbbell was. It IS indeed a race thing. That was the whole point of Toshs joke, thinking black people dominate baseball, but he was wrong.

Morehead State
08-17-2012, 11:31 AM
of course the record books would be different if you put todays hofers back then. todays game has evolved. Baseball has been taught for over 100 years now.
You can make the same statement for any sport. The players have it easier today with scouting reports, trainers, peds. Id be surprised if the babe knew what a dumbbell was. It IS indeed a race thing. That was the whole point of Toshs joke, thinking black people dominate baseball, but he was wrong.
No Dezz. You are missing the point. It isn't about "if today's players played back then". Its about "if all the best players back then were allowed to play in the majors".
Some of the best baseball players of that time were NOT ALLOWED to play. MLB was a restricted league.
How is it you're not getting this.

JPizzack
08-17-2012, 11:32 AM
of course the record books would be different if you put todays hofers back then. todays game has evolved. Baseball has been taught for over 100 years now.
You can make the same statement for any sport. The players have it easier today with scouting reports, trainers, peds. Id be surprised if the babe knew what a dumbbell was. It IS indeed a race thing. That was the whole point of Toshs joke, thinking black people dominate baseball, but he was wrong.

Ok Dezzz.....let's say ther are no current players....
let's just say INSTEAD that in the 1920s hispanics and blacks were allowed to play baseball....

Do you still think the results would be the same? If you still say yes, than I know you are just being ignorant and are focusing too much on the race thing on whatever principle youre sticking to.

JPizzack
08-17-2012, 11:33 AM
No Dezz. You are missing the point. It isn't about "if today's players played back then". Its about "if all the best players back then were allowed to play in the majors".
Some of the best baseball players of that time were NOT ALLOWED to play. MLB was a restricted league.
How is it you're not getting this.

nevermind....i dont want to attack Dezz....i just dont understand why he doesnt understand. lol

Morehead State
08-17-2012, 11:52 AM
nevermind....i dont want to attack Dezz....i just dont understand why he doesnt understand. lol
Killjoy!!!

JPizzack
08-17-2012, 11:55 AM
Killjoy!!!

lol...umm sorry

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 12:06 PM
you are going to be in RI from 10AM sat till 3AM sunday? if so fine acceptable, about the NFL Network, I have a special package just not sure which :P

doing a mini vacation be back monday

Morehead State
08-17-2012, 12:08 PM
lol...umm sorry
Kill joy, Bad guy,
Big talking, Small fry
You're just an old barrow - boy
Have you found a new toy to replace me,
Can you face me -
But now you can kiss my *** goodbye

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 12:09 PM
of course the record books would be different if you put todays hofers back then. todays game has evolved. Baseball has been taught for over 100 years now.
You can make the same statement for any sport. The players have it easier today with scouting reports, trainers, peds. Id be surprised if the babe knew what a dumbbell was. It IS indeed a race thing. That was the whole point of Toshs joke, thinking black people dominate baseball, but he was wrong.

no, you've missed tosh's point as well

by saying black he was saying minorities, your being too literal

his point was if it wasn't the best competition, which it wasn't by a long shot, then how can u value those stats?

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 12:11 PM
Kill joy, Bad guy,
Big talking, Small fry
You're just an old barrow - boy
Have you found a new toy to replace me,
Can you face me -
But now you can kiss my *** goodbye


uhm huh???????????

dezzzR
08-17-2012, 12:24 PM
No you guys are missing a point. Tosh made a joke insinuating that black players would have dominated the league if the league was unsegregated back then. But hes wrong, they dont even dominate the sport today.


Would some records be different if aa's were allowed to play back then, sure. But this whole, lets put a asteric next to his name because no aa's played back then is beyond dumb.

MattMeyerBud
08-17-2012, 12:26 PM
No you guys are missing a point. Tosh made a joke insinuating that black players would have dominated the league if the league was unsegregated back then. But hes wrong, they dont even dominate the sport today.


Would some records be different if aa's were allowed to play back then, sure. But this whole, lets put a asteric next to his name because no aa's played back then is beyond dumb.

no the point was that minorities weren't allowed at all, your being too literal.

Everybody else knows exactly what he was saying except you lol.

The "BLACK LEAGUES" were not just filled with black players, you do realize that right

byron
08-17-2012, 12:30 PM
Kill joy, Bad guy,
Big talking, Small fry
You're just an old barrow - boy
Have you found a new toy to replace me,
Can you face me -
But now you can kiss my *** goodbye
Queen ....

Morehead State
08-17-2012, 12:34 PM
Queen ....
You are very wise and worldly Big B!!!

Imgrate
08-17-2012, 06:02 PM
More better players means higher level of competition and thusly less statistical output by everyone playing during that time.It's not just about the great players its about all players that would have been on a team instead of a white guy. The bottom of every team's roster would have been better.This should be common sense.

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 09:12 AM
Are we actually going to have a draft and a league? Someone let me know.

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 10:03 AM
really you usually want to draft right after the last pre-season game to account for preseason injuries.

drucourgego
08-20-2012, 10:55 AM
+1. (http://maggieherter.com/family_friends/bookmarks/view/31737/acheter-une-friteuse) I agree

dezzzR
08-20-2012, 11:45 AM
We looked pretty strong the other night. O line started out ok in the first with a few nice runs but then hit a wall. Cruz looked good. Randle and JJ both had nice plays. Eli threw a stinker, didnt see the safety but still looked ok.
Im liking Hosley, looks great in nickle. pick 6 in MAN:wink:. Tuck Osi Jpp, all did great, Saw Kiwi literally toss a lineman out his way on a blitz and got some pressure, also a had a few tackles. Secondary was pretty solid, but lets not get to excited, jets offense hasnt scored a td yet this preseason.

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 11:49 AM
oh by the way guys, I have NFL Network so the Cablevision thing is working (in NJ at least)

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 11:56 AM
We looked pretty strong the other night. O line started out ok in the first with a few nice runs but then hit a wall. Cruz looked good. Randle and JJ both had nice plays. Eli threw a stinker, didnt see the safety but still looked ok.
Im liking Hosley, looks great in nickle. pick 6 in MAN:wink:. Tuck Osi Jpp, all did great, Saw Kiwi literally toss a lineman out his way on a blitz and got some pressure, also a had a few tackles. Secondary was pretty solid, but lets not get to excited, jets offense hasnt scored a td yet this preseason.
offense was lousy. Cruz played well and that was about it. Jets are a sub .500 team this year with a horrible offense.
WE better pick it up when they start counting.
And what was that Eli rookie play? Jeez.

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:02 PM
offense was lousy. Cruz played well and that was about it. Jets are a sub .500 team this year with a horrible offense.
WE better pick it up when they start counting.
And what was that Eli rookie play? Jeez.

Jets are lousy, but their defense isnt

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:03 PM
Can everybody make Aug 30th? lets say 9 o clock just to be safe

2 WR flex - way to vote in the most boring league settings ever

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:03 PM
More better players means higher level of competition and thusly less statistical output by everyone playing during that time.It's not just about the great players its about all players that would have been on a team instead of a white guy. The bottom of every team's roster would have been better.This should be common sense.

what is that in reply to

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:04 PM
check that, LT can't make the 30th either

how is everybody with a friday 8 o clock draft... still early enough for everybody to go out

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 12:08 PM
Jets are lousy, but their defense isnt
They were lousy vs. the run last year and our O line still looks marginal at best. Randall looks like he has good hands and Cruz will be huge this year. Hard to tell what our D is given the Jets offense but it looks OK right now. Rivers looked athletic.
But in general the offense struggled, I thought. No TD's from the starters. Just a couple FG's. One drive was saved by a roughing the kicker call.
And how stupid was it for the kid to hurt himself during his celebration? Drives me nuts.

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:09 PM
so far good for friday at 8 is me, amanda, lawl, and LT

How are the rest of you guys?

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 12:10 PM
check that, LT can't make the 30th either

how is everybody with a friday 8 o clock draft... still early enough for everybody to go out
I thought Wednesday the 29th was a done deal.

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 12:10 PM
that whole weekend is bad for me matt, Thursday is my cousins 30th B-Day party, Friday/Saturday my Sister's wedding, Sunday I "might" be able to make.

the 29th is really the best for me though.

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 12:11 PM
so far good for friday at 8 is me, amanda, lawl, and LT

How are the rest of you guys?
Which Friday. This one coming or next week. Can't do it this Friday but next Friday is fine.

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:12 PM
They were lousy vs. the run last year and our O line still looks marginal at best. Randall looks like he has good hands and Cruz will be huge this year. Hard to tell what our D is given the Jets offense but it looks OK right now. Rivers looked athletic.
But in general the offense struggled, I thought. No TD's from the starters. Just a couple FG's. One drive was saved by a roughing the kicker call.
And how stupid was it for the kid to hurt himself during his celebration? Drives me nuts.

and a big part of that was a hurt and out of shape Scott, which doesn't seem to be the case at all this year... it will make a dramatic difference. Plus while being the 13th best rush defense isn't great, its no where near lousy.

I like what i see out of randle. I thought Rivers was all over the field as well.

He got turf toe, could happen walking to the bench

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:13 PM
How bout 9pm labor day monday?

people already can't do that day daven

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:13 PM
Which Friday. This one coming or next week. Can't do it this Friday but next Friday is fine.

would of been next friday the 30th, but daven can't swing it

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:14 PM
I thought Wednesday the 29th was a done deal.

LT just said he can't make it cuz hes going to Giants - Pats that day

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 12:17 PM
would of been next friday the 30th, but daven can't swing it
Again....what happened to the 29th? My understanding is that Lawl could do it after 10.

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 12:18 PM
LT just said he can't make it cuz hes going to Giants - Pats that day
Does he have an iphone?

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:19 PM
Again....what happened to the 29th? My understanding is that Lawl could do it after 10.


read and you'll find the answer

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:19 PM
Does he have an iphone?

i dunno pappy, can u make labor day monday at 9pm?

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:20 PM
we could always string a draft -

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:20 PM
and start it up tom

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 12:24 PM
i dunno pappy, can u make labor day monday at 9pm?
yes..............

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 12:28 PM
can't do Tomorrow Matt, I can only do Wednesday and "Maybe" Sunday this week.

MattMeyerBud
08-20-2012, 12:28 PM
daven? Monday at 9pm labor day?

dezzzR
08-20-2012, 12:29 PM
offense was lousy. Cruz played well and that was about it. Jets are a sub .500 team this year with a horrible offense.
WE better pick it up when they start counting.
And what was that Eli rookie play? Jeez.I thought the wrs did ok, expect Barden. His time is running out.

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 12:30 PM
Labor day I might be able to make, not 100% sure though.

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 12:32 PM
I thought the wrs did ok, expect Barden. His time is running out.
They scored 6 points Dez.

byron
08-20-2012, 12:42 PM
daven? Monday at 9pm labor day? lol....hows this working out ....If I can't make what ever night it is I'll let yahoo do it....;)













I'm good with any night ....

dezzzR
08-20-2012, 12:57 PM
They scored 6 points Dez.Randle caught a nice +40 yard pass, JJ caught a +20 yard pass broke a tackle, juked a linebacker and made him look siiiiillly.

Theyre showing flashes and thats good. Not everyone balls out like Cruz did a few years ago.

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 02:03 PM
Randle caught a nice +40 yard pass, JJ caught a +20 yard pass broke a tackle, juked a linebacker and made him look siiiiillly.

Theyre showing flashes and thats good. Not everyone balls out like Cruz did a few years ago.
Moving it in between the 20's is no trick in the NFL. The offense needs to punch it in and they couldn't.

dezzzR
08-20-2012, 02:05 PM
Moving it in between the 20's is no trick in the NFL. The offense needs to punch it in and they couldn't.I hear ya, im not disagreeing. Just saying there were a few flashes.

dezzzR
08-20-2012, 02:06 PM
This whole Prince thing is bull****.

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 02:40 PM
This whole Prince thing is bull****.
One day story

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 03:52 PM
OK...I'm on my new Mac and it is friggin confusing.

dezzzR
08-20-2012, 04:02 PM
OK...I'm on my new Mac and it is friggin confusing.Yea. Macs can be very confusing to PC users. Youll get the hang of it though.

Morehead State
08-20-2012, 04:15 PM
Yea. Macs can be very confusing to PC users. Youll get the hang of it though.
Theres not even a way to close a page. there doesn't seem to be a "favorites" list.

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 04:15 PM
oh yeah, you can get used to macs....but as a long time PC user you are never really going to "like" the Mac, they are inferior in most ways, although it might be good for your band, for creative things like art/music etc etc.....they seem to be a bit better, or at least that's what I'm told, personally while I know how to use both I hate Mac's with a passion....they are like PC's just worse in every way....that's my opinion.

I know your daughter got it for you though so I hope I'm wrong in your case.

"PS Safari absolutely SUCKS as a browser"

Moke
08-20-2012, 04:25 PM
I love my Mac, and they are easy to operate after awhile. They are easy to use and they work very well.

I might never go back to PC honestly, unless it's for work obviously.

And Safari does suck as a browser - I use google chrome.

Although, Safari got better with the Mountain Lion update that should come with the new Macs

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 04:36 PM
I just don't understand their draw, assuming a similar price the PC will always be more powerful, the PC will generally have a better Processor, more RAM, and more storage capacity, they are also generally compatibly with more software and the ability to upgrade a PC to keep it current is something Apples/Macs just don't possess.

the only thing Mac's seem to be better at is looking prettier on a desk, which to me holds zero importance.

Moke
08-20-2012, 04:40 PM
I just don't understand their draw, assuming a similar price the PC will always be more powerful, the PC will generally have a better Processor, more RAM, and more storage capacity, they are also generally compatibly with more software and the ability to upgrade a PC to keep it current is something Apples/Macs just don't possess.

the only thing Mac's seem to be better at is looking prettier on a desk, which to me holds zero importance.

I felt like PCs, you needed to take better care of. The whole anti-virus downloading and bull**** just wasn't for me. I have to be honest - I liked PCs and working with them, but as time goes on, I felt like I can spend less time working on my computer with an Apple.

It's there, it's efficient, it's easy to use. It's just a weird feeling I guess

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 04:46 PM
I'll give you that more virus's are targeted at PC, that's true, you need to be more aware to protect yourself, but that's only because PC's are still the standard, they are used more and they contain more sensitive information...

what you are kind of saying is that you like Apples because the aren't targeted by hackers (Viruses), well that's all well and good....until Apple becomes the more popular brand....at that point it will become the target and then you'll have to download the same antivirus software you had to download for PC's.

you know what I mean?

neither Apple or PC's are harder to crack if anything PC's are actually harder because they've been dealing with virus's longer and have better antivirus software, it's just that one is used more then the other so it's targeted more often.

In the end it comes down to people protecting themselves...even if you use an Apple you should be doing the same type of protection protocol you would for a PC, you don't notice the virus's because no one is specifically going after "you" and the fishers are going after PC's cause there are more of them, but imagine you came into possession of some important information that people are after, it's likely safer or at least just as safe on a PC as it is on an Apple.

Moke
08-20-2012, 04:49 PM
I'll give you that more virus's are targeted at PC, that's true, you need to be more aware to protect yourself, but that's only because PC's are still the standard, they are used more and they contain more sensitive information...

what you are kind of saying is that you like Apples because the aren't targeted by hackers (Viruses), well that's all well and good....until Apple becomes the more popular brand....at that point it will become the target and then you'll have to download the same antivirus software you had to download for PC's.

you know what I mean?

neither Apple or PC's are harder to crack (if anything PC's are actually harder) it's just that one is used more then the other so it's targeted more often.

Exactly. I would love a PC on the side though, for gaming and stuff. Problem is, I have no patience for downloading software and ****, and the anti-virus stuff is expensive as hell right now.

I only go free, and usually my computer still ends up going slower.

DavenIII
08-20-2012, 05:00 PM
there are plenty of "free" cleaners, you can use CCleaner and also Avast Anti Virus.....I'll give you it is a hassle, but the other option is to pay more for less quality....simply for the convince of not being a "target"....for now.

bigblue4417
08-21-2012, 12:56 AM
daven? Monday at 9pm labor day?
Works fine for me

Morehead State
08-21-2012, 09:00 AM
oh yeah, you can get used to macs....but as a long time PC user you are never really going to "like" the Mac, they are inferior in most ways, although it might be good for your band, for creative things like art/music etc etc.....they seem to be a bit better, or at least that's what I'm told, personally while I know how to use both I hate Mac's with a passion....they are like PC's just worse in every way....that's my opinion.

I know your daughter got it for you though so I hope I'm wrong in your case.

"PS Safari absolutely SUCKS as a browser"
First of all I am a computer idiot. Lets get that out there right now.
Secondly, I respect your opinion and I am in no position to learnedly disagree with you.
HOWEVER
My daughter is not a computer idiot. She has a masters in Computer Science from Johns Hopkins. And is literally a top and sought after expert in computer security. She tells me that Macs are far superior to PC's. She's been nagging me for years to get a Mac and finally broke down and bought me one.
Having said that, since she is traveling and can't be reached right now, does anyone have suggestions on a web browser? Safari truly DOES suck!

DavenIII
08-21-2012, 09:14 AM
Morehead, for browsers Chrome is considered the best right now I think, I still use Firefox though, Explorer and Safari both suck.

when it comes to computer security, the thing is Morehead, Apples/Mac's aren't targeted....so if you look at it statistically yes it "looks" like they are better for security, and for a computer idiot I suppose they are, but the real reason behind that is because they aren't targeted not because they are in some way more "secure"

A good analogy would be to compare a Steel door to a Wooden door....the steel door is more secure right? that is unless you take into account that there is a tank that comes by 3 times a day and shoots off a shell towards the Steel door but the wooden door remains untouched.

In that case you would "think" the wooden door is more secure, it's not "really" it's just that it doesn't need to deal with the attacks.

MattMeyerBud
08-21-2012, 09:36 AM
oh yeah, you can get used to macs....but as a long time PC user you are never really going to "like" the Mac, they are inferior in most ways, although it might be good for your band, for creative things like art/music etc etc.....they seem to be a bit better, or at least that's what I'm told, personally while I know how to use both I hate Mac's with a passion....they are like PC's just worse in every way....that's my opinion.

I know your daughter got it for you though so I hope I'm wrong in your case.

"PS Safari absolutely SUCKS as a browser"

safari is much better than IE

i love Mac and made the switch officially and do nothing but search the web

MattMeyerBud
08-21-2012, 09:38 AM
so far labor day monday is good for me, amanda, pappy, daven, sharick, lawl, LT, and lando

waiting on Pats, Kase, Byron, Pizz

byron
08-21-2012, 09:45 AM
so far labor day monday is good for me, amanda, pappy, daven, sharick, lawl, LT, and lando

waiting on Pats, Kase, Byron, Pizz thats fine with me

byron
08-21-2012, 09:48 AM
First of all I am a computer idiot. Lets get that out there right now.
Secondly, I respect your opinion and I am in no position to learnedly disagree with you.
HOWEVER
My daughter is not a computer idiot. She has a masters in Computer Science from Johns Hopkins. And is literally a top and sought after expert in computer security. She tells me that Macs are far superior to PC's. She's been nagging me for years to get a Mac and finally broke down and bought me one.
Having said that, since she is traveling and can't be reached right now, does anyone have suggestions on a web browser? Safari truly DOES suck! I have been using firefox seems to work good with this board has the same look and feel as MSIE....


edit...be careful to download it fro a reputable site I'll look and see where I got it

here is a link for mac's right from the developer
http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-mac

byron
08-21-2012, 10:00 AM
Morehead, for browsers Chrome is considered the best right now I think, I still use Firefox though, Explorer and Safari both suck.

when it comes to computer security, the thing is Morehead, Apples/Mac's aren't targeted....so if you look at it statistically yes it "looks" like they are better for security, and for a computer idiot I suppose they are, but the real reason behind that is because they aren't targeted not because they are in some way more "secure"

A good analogy would be to compare a Steel door to a Wooden door....the steel door is more secure right? that is unless you take into account that there is a tank that comes by 3 times a day and shoots off a shell towards the Steel door but the wooden door remains untouched.

In that case you would "think" the wooden door is more secure, it's not "really" it's just that it doesn't need to deal with the attacks. yea all tire's stay up till you poke a hole in them ;)

SliliplyBab
08-21-2012, 10:01 AM
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dezzzR
08-21-2012, 10:19 AM
vicks po lil ribs....

Morehead State
08-21-2012, 10:23 AM
I have been using firefox seems to work good with this board has the same look and feel as MSIE....


edit...be careful to download it fro a reputable site I'll look and see where I got it

here is a link for mac's right from the developer
http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-mac
Thanks to everybody. My daughter just called and recommended Firefox.

MattMeyerBud
08-21-2012, 10:39 AM
Just waiting on Kase and pats now

dezzzR
08-21-2012, 11:28 AM
What a great investment Carl Crawford has been for the sox.

Morehead State
08-21-2012, 11:30 AM
What a great investment Carl Crawford has been for the sox.
Yeah thats worked out well. Almost as good as John Lackey.

byron
08-21-2012, 11:30 AM
Thanks to everybody. My daughter just called and recommended Firefox. here is a vid that might help also

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/video/?video=upgrade-mac

MattMeyerBud
08-21-2012, 12:03 PM
Kase is good, looks like the draft WILL officially be Labor Day Monday at 9 pm

waiting for Pats for the definite yes. I think he'll say that we can go with it even if he can't make it

byron
08-21-2012, 12:05 PM
When I worked in the steel mill we had this one guy.... man come quitting time he'd be chomping at the bit waitng on the whisle....Always the first one at the time clock to punch out....so one day when he wasn't looking I tack welded his metal tool tray to a large beam it was setting on.....Well you know the rest of the story, those of us who were in on it had a little extra fun watching him grind that thing loose while we got in line to punch out.......Horseplay man... its a part of life and a form of bonding....

dezzzR
08-21-2012, 12:11 PM
When I worked in the steel mill we had this one guy.... man come quitting time he'd be chomping at the bit waitng on the whisle....Always the first one at the time clock to punch out....so one day when he wasn't looking I tack welded his metal tool tray to a large beam it was setting on.....Well you know the rest of the story, those of us who were in on it had a little extra fun watching him grind that thing loose while we got in line to punch out.......Horseplay man... its a part of life and a form of bonding....well said.

MattMeyerBud
08-21-2012, 12:12 PM
When I worked in the steel mill we had this one guy.... man come quitting time he'd be chomping at the bit waitng on the whisle....Always the first one at the time clock to punch out....so one day when he wasn't looking I tack welded his metal tool tray to a large beam it was setting on.....Well you know the rest of the story, those of us who were in on it had a little extra fun watching him grind that thing loose while we got in line to punch out.......Horseplay man... its a part of life and a form of bonding....

absolutely

and i just fail to see what was so vicious about dumping someone in water?

The guy from Hard Knocks this past week just had a **** engraved into his head - how is that less bullying?

dezzzR
08-21-2012, 12:47 PM
Anyone see Andy Reid going ape **** last night. He did it a few times. If he wasnt yelling at a player or coach he was giving them the stare of death and talking firmly.I thought he was more of a players coach

MattMeyerBud
08-21-2012, 01:31 PM
Draft is officially labor day Monday at 9 pm

Morehead State
08-21-2012, 01:38 PM
Draft is officially labor day Monday at 9 pm
Can't make it. Can we do midnight?

Kase-1
08-21-2012, 03:14 PM
Hi Im Forrest, Forrest Gump. Now we're not strangers no more

http://www.moviequotesandmore.com/image-files/forrest-gump-quotes-4.jpg

MattMeyerBud
08-22-2012, 09:39 AM
saw Cypress Hill and Sublime wiht Rome last night

awesome show. Hill is the best live rap act there is and Sublime wiht Rome was alot better than i thought.

Kase-1
08-22-2012, 10:03 AM
Ive seen Cypress live over 20x and I cant wait to see them 20 more times. From small hole in the wall clubs for their annual NYC Halloween show to Rock The Bells in front of 100k fans Cypress consistently puts on an AMAZING show

1 time about 12 years ago me and a few of my boys saw their Halloween show and no lie, B-Real passed a 2ft long, arguably 1lb MASSIVE Joint back n forth to the crowd throughout the whole show

dezzzR
08-22-2012, 11:01 AM
I think Jeter can break Petes record.

MattMeyerBud
08-22-2012, 05:15 PM
okay i've set all the settings for the league. Any complaints bring em up here, if not don't cry about it once the league has started

MattMeyerBud
08-23-2012, 09:34 AM
jesus christ you mutts are dead in here

DavenIII
08-23-2012, 10:15 AM
I'm getting one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKX3Y8UdHvk&feature=related

MattMeyerBud
08-23-2012, 12:04 PM
I'm getting one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKX3Y8UdHvk&feature=related

haha those things are cute as ****, they smell?

dezzzR
08-23-2012, 12:12 PM
I'm getting one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKX3Y8UdHvk&feature=relatedlol they stay that size?

dezzzR
08-23-2012, 12:34 PM
People really need to ge the sand out of their vagina regarding Prince.

Morehead State
08-23-2012, 12:40 PM
haha those things are cute as ****, they smell?
This is how THEE thread has gone downhill fast.
We're now talking about whether or not Pigmey Goats smell.
The answer is.....Yes. I'm pretty sure they do. THEY'RE FRIGGIN' GOATS!!!!!!!

dezzzR
08-23-2012, 12:43 PM
This is how THEE thread has gone downhill fast.
We're now talking about whether or not Pigmey Goats smell.
The answer is.....Yes. I'm pretty sure they do. THEY'RE FRIGGIN' GOATS!!!!!!!You should get one, Gogo needs a friend.

DavenIII
08-23-2012, 01:03 PM
This is how THEE thread has gone downhill fast.
We're now talking about whether or not Pigmey Goats smell.
The answer is.....Yes. I'm pretty sure they do. THEY'RE FRIGGIN' GOATS!!!!!!!

Better then talking about Baby LT's Sex life.

Morehead State
08-23-2012, 01:16 PM
You should get one, Gogo needs a friend.
GoGo has me.

Kase-1
08-23-2012, 04:44 PM
So where is everyone sitting for THEE game??

Has anyone looked into tickets??

Lets start getting out tisch together people!!!!

DavenIII
08-24-2012, 09:58 AM
looks like I'm going to tonight's game, anyone else going?

MattMeyerBud
08-24-2012, 12:03 PM
So where is everyone sitting for THEE game??

Has anyone looked into tickets??

Lets start getting out tisch together people!!!!

negatory...

MattMeyerBud
08-24-2012, 12:04 PM
looks like I'm going to tonight's game, anyone else going?


negatory ...

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 09:40 AM
Matt...Are we sending our money for the league to you? Where?

dezzzR
08-27-2012, 10:07 AM
Looks like we might have a running game gentlemen

Moke
08-27-2012, 11:01 AM
Good morning everyone. How is everyone doing today?

I really like Wilson. He's a beast, and I hope he continues. Nice to have a speedy back!

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 11:04 AM
GUESSSSS WHOOOOOO BIIIITCHESSSSS!!!!

(That was my Always Sunny, flipadelphia episode impression. Youre welcome)

ny06
08-27-2012, 02:18 PM
Morehead State

What do you think of the blockbuster trade the Sox made? I thought it was a mistake trading Gonzo, but as a Yankees fan I'm glad he's out of the AL East.

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 02:30 PM
Morehead State

What do you think of the blockbuster trade the Sox made? I thought it was a mistake trading Gonzo, but as a Yankees fan I'm glad he's out of the AL East.

By the way, you have an admirer. Giantsfan241

fairly obvious salary dump, and im like 99% sure that the deal wouldnt have gotten done without Gonzalez as the lone bargaining chip.
What I DONT understand, is LAD is in financial shambles. What are they doing taking on all these huge contracts?? lol
But whatever....like you said, he's out of the AL East....

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:30 PM
Morehead State

What do you think of the blockbuster trade the Sox made? I thought it was a mistake trading Gonzo, but as a Yankees fan I'm glad he's out of the AL East.

By the way, you have an admirer. Giantsfan241
I was very happy with it. Makes this horrible sesason a little better. They will fire Bobby V and then bring in Tek or another young manager. Now with the salary dump they can go after a few free agants that can really help. (maybe even bring Yuke back).
All in all, it was a great move and I know that basically all Sox fans are happy about it.

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:35 PM
fairly obvious salary dump, and im like 99% sure that the deal wouldnt have gotten done without Gonzalez as the lone bargaining chip.
What I DONT understand, is LAD is in financial shambles. What are they doing taking on all these huge contracts?? lol
But whatever....like you said, he's out of the AL East....
They aren't it shambles at all. They are about to complete a TV deal like YES Network or NESN. Don't forget they have a new ownership group with Magic Johnson. The old owner is gone. Hard to believe that they took Crawford but thats just a bonus for us. Plus we got a couple really good pitching prospects.
Don't worry....The dynasty is still in place. We just took a year off to find ourselves.

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 02:37 PM
I was very happy with it. Makes this horrible sesason a little better. They will fire Bobby V and then bring in Tek or another young manager. Now with the salary dump they can go after a few free agants that can really help. (maybe even bring Yuke back).
All in all, it was a great move and I know that basically all Sox fans are happy about it.

It gives them alot of money to throw at free agents...thats for sure.

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:42 PM
It gives them alot of money to throw at free agents...thats for sure.
Getting out from under the Crawford contract was key. That was going to kill our ability to get better down the road. Beckett too. He was essentially useless since he signed the new contract a few years ago. Maybe he'll fair better in the NL. Gonzo was the key for LA, but we had too many left handed hitters. Not a good fit in Fenway. I look for us to try to get some right handed power next off season.

dezzzR
08-27-2012, 02:47 PM
They aren't it shambles at all. They are about to complete a TV deal like YES Network or NESN. Don't forget they have a new ownership group with Magic Johnson. The old owner is gone. Hard to believe that they took Crawford but thats just a bonus for us. Plus we got a couple really good pitching prospects.
Don't worry....The dynasty is still in place. We just took a year off to find ourselves.
http://cdn2.hark.com/images/000/604/462/604462/original.jpg
"That doesnt make sense."

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:47 PM
No Canty until week 6. Corners are rally thin right now. We better score some points.

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 02:48 PM
Getting out from under the Crawford contract was key. That was going to kill our ability to get better down the road. Beckett too. He was essentially useless since he signed the new contract a few years ago. Maybe he'll fair better in the NL. Gonzo was the key for LA, but we had too many left handed hitters. Not a good fit in Fenway. I look for us to try to get some right handed power next off season.

The crawford contract was the worst contract ever....and im not even talking about how he's essentially been injured the whole time....it's just BAD.
As far as I'm concerned, the only 2 outfielders who deserve that kind of money, Kemp and Hamilton. There are just WAY too many OFs to be giving someone whos game is speed that much money. You give that kind of money to the MVP candidates.
Like, the Yankees worst contract is A-Rod.....but, the guy won 3 MVPs in the 7 years prior to his extension....THAT'S why he got that contract. The crawford one made me cringe from day 1....as i believe it did everyone here lol

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:48 PM
http://cdn2.hark.com/images/000/604/462/604462/original.jpg
"That doesnt make sense."

It makes sense to me and thats all that matters.

dezzzR
08-27-2012, 02:49 PM
Getting out from under the Crawford contract was key. That was going to kill our ability to get better down the road. Beckett too. He was essentially useless since he signed the new contract a few years ago. Maybe he'll fair better in the NL. Gonzo was the key for LA, but we had too many left handed hitters. Not a good fit in Fenway. I look for us to try to get some right handed power next off season.With Gonzos numbers, hes a good fit anywhere.

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:50 PM
The crawford contract was the worst contract ever....and im not even talking about how he's essentially been injured the whole time....it's just BAD.
As far as I'm concerned, the only 2 outfielders who deserve that kind of money, Kemp and Hamilton. There are just WAY too many OFs to be giving someone whos game is speed that much money. You give that kind of money to the MVP candidates.
Like, the Yankees worst contract is A-Rod.....but, the guy won 3 MVPs in the 7 years prior to his extension....THAT'S why he got that contract. The crawford one made me cringe from day 1....as i believe it did everyone here lol

I agree that the Crawford deal was horrible, but the Arod deal was still the worst. They had no inyterest from any other team. They could have signed him for a lot cheaper and for fewer years. You can't sign a guy into his 40's for that kind of money. That was crazy!

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:52 PM
With Gonzos numbers, hes a good fit anywhere.
Gonzo is a great player, no doubt and we'll miss him. The problem was our loaded lineup from the left side. We needed more right handed bats in there. Now we can get back to a better mix. You can't imagine how bad it was to face a left handed pitcher with all those left handed hitters.
Theo was misguided at best.

dezzzR
08-27-2012, 02:53 PM
No Canty until week 6. Corners are rally thin right now. We better score some points.And we better stop playing opposing WRs so soft in the redzone. When the hell will Perry learn?

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 02:54 PM
No Canty until week 6. Corners are rally thin right now. We better score some points.I jsut heard that on the way home from work. That SUCKS!!!

Him and Linval The Anvil were putting on quite the show in the playoffs last season and I was really hoping to see them pick up where they left off. Not to sound like a wackjob, but Rocky Bernard has looked better than he ever has this pre-season. That being said we still need some DT depth in case (knock on wood) someone goes down before week 6

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 02:54 PM
Wow you lames are talking baseball!?!?!?

No wonder Thee Thread is on life support right now

YEESH

dezzzR
08-27-2012, 02:55 PM
I like Kuhn aka The Terminator. Hes been playing very well.

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Looks like we might have a running game gentlemenI know Im playing Debbie Downer, but we desperatley need OL help, I GUESS Locklear and Diehl will have to do, but I really miss having a potent run game

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:56 PM
And we better stop playing opposing WRs so soft in the redzone. When the hell will Perry learn?
Good thing is that both Hosley and Prince don't have serious injuries. They could actually both be ready for game 1. But they could also both be out for game 1 too. I really look for the Dallas game to be a shoot out (with us winning of course).
Our team looked VERY good vs. the Bears. Offense was a 180 change from the week before.
BTW.....Carr is indeed horrible. Don't know how he stays on this team but he seems to survive.

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 02:57 PM
No Canty until week 6. Corners are rally thin right now. We better score some points.

No Rogers, No Austin, No Canty.....we are cursed at DT and CB....

Think they'll play Tuck at DT? I mean, our only guys who remained on the roster are Bernard and Joseph, right?

dezzzR
08-27-2012, 02:57 PM
I know Im playing Debbie Downer, but we desperatley need OL help, I GUESS Locklear and Diehl will have to do, but I really miss having a potent run gameCould be worse. We could have the Jets OL. :D

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:57 PM
I know Im playing Debbie Downer, but we desperatley need OL help, I GUESS Locklear and Diehl will have to do, but I really miss having a potent run game
All in all, I like our team a lot. I hope Douglas makes the team. He's a playmaker as a returner. Hixon may be gone.

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 02:58 PM
Good morning everyone. How is everyone doing today?

I really like Wilson. He's a beast, and I hope he continues. Nice to have a speedy back!Hell yea!!!

I cant wait to cook up and eat my words later on this season

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 02:59 PM
I agree that the Crawford deal was horrible, but the Arod deal was still the worst. They had no inyterest from any other team. They could have signed him for a lot cheaper and for fewer years. You can't sign a guy into his 40's for that kind of money. That was crazy!
yea, but I think we all know A-Rod only has like 2 years left in the tank....he has still quietly put together good seasons for the past 3. But yes....too much money, even for a guy who won 3 MVPs in 5 years. lol

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 02:59 PM
Could be worse. We could have the Jets OL. :DOr even worse than that, their RBs, LOL

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 02:59 PM
Hell yea!!!

I cant wait to cook up and eat my words later on this season
You and Lawl. We had to talk him off the ledge when we drafted Wilson.

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 03:01 PM
Or even worse than that, their RBs, LOL
Tebow is gunna be a difference maker on that offense. Don't be shocked. He'll get 7 to 10 carries per game and be great in goalline. (if they ever get near the goal line)

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 03:01 PM
Good thing is that both Hosley and Prince don't have serious injuries. They could actually both be ready for game 1. But they could also both be out for game 1 too. I really look for the Dallas game to be a shoot out (with us winning of course).
Our team looked VERY good vs. the Bears. Offense was a 180 change from the week before.
BTW.....Carr is indeed horrible. Don't know how he stays on this team but he seems to survive.Sucks they got injured, both of them need as much time on the field as possible.

Hoseley is a rookie and the jump from D1 to the Pro's for a CB is a tremendous one, its gotta be one of the hardest positions to make the transition with.

And Prince needs to stay on the field and prove that he can take that starting role and not get overwhelmed and stay healthy.

We're SOOOOO close to being a DOMINANT team for years to come, all we need are a few pieces here n there

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 03:03 PM
All in all, I like our team a lot. I hope Douglas makes the team. He's a playmaker as a returner. Hixon may be gone.

is anyone gonna eat crow on this?
the hixon re-signing was cheap....and THAT i agreed with....but i said the whole time that he would be phased out if he wasnt a ridiculous returner.

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 03:03 PM
You and Lawl. We had to talk him off the ledge when we drafted Wilson.I was ready to call it quits and go out Frank Pantengelli style

Im STILL desperate for AT LEAST 1 new OT

My boy Beatty is disappointing me left and right, dude cant stay on the field

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 03:05 PM
Tebow is gunna be a difference maker on that offense. Don't be shocked. He'll get 7 to 10 carries per game and be great in goalline. (if they ever get near the goal line)

ummm....no. if their RBs cant do work, Tebow will do even less.
god he looked ****ing horrid last night. he's just LOLBAD.....

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 03:05 PM
All in all, I like our team a lot. I hope Douglas makes the team. He's a playmaker as a returner. Hixon may be gone.Oh dont get me wrong I LOVE the team this year, but im a spoiled fan, I want an all star at every position for dirt cheap.

Im LOVING our Pass Game, Bennett, Our WRs, FB, interior OL, DE's, LBs

But im still iffy on our OTs, our Run game, our DT Depth, Starting CBs, and Safety Depth

I know we're SB champs but I wanna be SB Champs EVERY year for the rest of my life, LOL

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 03:07 PM
Tebow is gunna be a difference maker on that offense. Don't be shocked. He'll get 7 to 10 carries per game and be great in goalline. (if they ever get near the goal line)At this point Id put Tebow at starting QB, Dirty Sanchez is Chad Pennington without the smarts.

At least with Tebow he has a strong arm (cause we know they cant work their way down the field) and he has the ability to make plays and extend the play with his feet.

Oh the Jets, I kinda feel bad for them, but I also enjoy laughing at them

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 03:09 PM
ummm....no. if their RBs cant do work, Tebow will do even less.
god he looked ****ing horrid last night. he's just LOLBAD.....
What you see in pre season is not what you'll see in the regular season. He will get in the game for 10 to 12 plays a game. He's not going to be a starting QB. His role will be different from what we see in pre season.
As I said when they traded for him, he's going to bring a dynamic change of pace to that offense. Don't kid yourself, defenses are going to have to prepare for him and thats no easy task.

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 03:10 PM
is anyone gonna eat crow on this?
the hixon re-signing was cheap....and THAT i agreed with....but i said the whole time that he would be phased out if he wasnt a ridiculous returner.You dont think he's gonna be phased out??

He's an OK WR, but we have younger guys that may be worth taking the chance on. Hixon WAS a 'decent' returner for us, we all think he was so great cause the last guy we had was frigging Chad 'no returns past the 20' Morton. I dont think Hixon is gonna have a long career with us, hell I wouldnt be that suprised if he was phased out with the next round of cuts

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 03:10 PM
Sucks they got injured, both of them need as much time on the field as possible.

Hoseley is a rookie and the jump from D1 to the Pro's for a CB is a tremendous one, its gotta be one of the hardest positions to make the transition with.


it absolutely is.

and it's as if nobody cares that football scores in college are 52 - 48 every week....lol
You think that means they play good defense.....yea not so much.
Corner is the hardest position outside of QB

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 03:14 PM
it absolutely is.

and it's as if nobody cares that football scores in college are 52 - 48 every week....lol
You think that means they play good defense.....yea not so much.
Corner is the hardest position outside of QB
As long as we're the 52 and they're the 48.....

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 03:20 PM
Jeez.. I checked that Eli thread. Some guy went after me big time. They closed the friggin thing.

DavenIII
08-27-2012, 03:22 PM
It makes sense to me and thats all that matters.

If it making sense to you is all that matters then why reply to dez not understanding it at all?

By the way I don't understand it either, how can you be in the middle of a dynasty...St. Louis won last year I thought, that puts any dynasty hopes you had for Boston back to zero doesn't it?

Moke
08-27-2012, 03:22 PM
Jeez.. I checked that Eli thread. Some guy went after me big time. They closed the friggin thing.

What did you do to the poor thing?

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 03:22 PM
Jeez.. I checked that Eli thread. Some guy went after me big time. They closed the friggin thing.Eli is amazing and gets better every year. At this pace he will be the best QB we've ever had as a Franchise

End of thread

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 03:24 PM
As long as we're the 52 and they're the 48.....

in college, not the NFL

JPizzack
08-27-2012, 03:25 PM
Eli is amazing and gets better every year. At this pace he will be the best QB we've ever had as a Franchise

End of thread

+1

for THE TRUTH!!!!

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 03:25 PM
Eli is amazing and gets better every year. At this pace he will be the best QB we've ever had as a Franchise

End of thread
There are actually posters who believe that a Giants fan would actually root against Eli. Drives me nuts. These guys just love to pit Giants fans against each other.

Kase-1
08-27-2012, 03:28 PM
There are actually posters who believe that a Giants fan would actually root against Eli. Drives me nuts. These guys just love to pit Giants fans against each other.What kind of fan would root against our 2x SB MVP QB!?!?!

Ive NEVER been a fan of QBs and I LOVE Eli!!!!

Morehead State
08-27-2012, 03:31 PM
What kind of fan would root against our 2x SB MVP QB!?!?!

Ive NEVER been a fan of QBs and I LOVE Eli!!!!
Plus he's a good Republican.
Hahahaha!!!!!