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dezzzR
04-30-2013, 11:46 AM
well, he won't be playing nose tackleSo theyll put him at DE? Another not so smart move imo.

Imgrate
04-30-2013, 11:48 AM
So theyll put him at DE? Another not so smart move imo.

He'll be a pass rushing 5 tech. In the mold of jj watt, justin smith, etc.I could obviously be wrong, but the guy is a great pass rusher

Imgrate
04-30-2013, 11:49 AM
I don't understand how anyone can defend/like the pugh pick. It is such an obviously terrible pick.

Morehead State
04-30-2013, 12:33 PM
Yea I'm not sure what MH is saying. Their draft was terrible. they took an injury risk to replace Revis, which i understand, but...i dont trust the guy. Like you said, the DT wont work in a 3-4, they are going to have a shaky QB competition, they didnt draft Eifert, which everyone thought was a no-brainer for the jets, and they added nothing notable on offense
they took the best corner in the draft. I don't think he's any more an injury risk than anyone else.

JPizzack
04-30-2013, 12:34 PM
I don't understand how anyone can defend/like the pugh pick. It is such an obviously terrible pick.

jury is still out. i dont understand the pick, but it doesnt mean it wont work, idk...

JPizzack
04-30-2013, 12:36 PM
they took the best corner in the draft. I don't think he's any more an injury risk than anyone else.

he's already had a handful of surgeries. would you trust that on our team?

JPizzack
04-30-2013, 12:40 PM
Ok, I'll stop talking about the Jets. I just thought it was a funny article. I don't care abotu the Jets, nor do we have to discuss them lol

edit - I changed my mind: the comedy is just too good

JPizzack
04-30-2013, 01:24 PM
still think the Jets had a good draft? lmao read this from the NY Daily News

The New York Daily News reports No. 38 pick Geno Smith has fired his agents over "displeasure (with) his draft position."
Welcome to the big leagues, Geno. Per reporter Manish Mehta, Smith thought he "would and should be the No. 1 overall pick," but was given "no assurance of his draft position." Smith shooting the messenger over his draft position isn't a promising indication of how he'll handle the New York spotlight




Have fun with this headcase haha

Morehead State
04-30-2013, 01:27 PM
he's already had a handful of surgeries. would you trust that on our team?
Nothing big like an ACL though. Just some nagging stuff.
Any draft pick is a risk but he was a good pick. Big time playmaker.

JPizzack
04-30-2013, 01:54 PM
Did you guys hear they are resurrecting the USFL next year? They want to make it a development league of sorts instead of trying to directly compete with the NFL lol.

I think it'd be a cool idea. Teams could have contracts with these USFL teams to provide their rookies and practice squad guys to a USFL team for development or something.

idk, what do ya think?

dezzzR
04-30-2013, 01:57 PM
still think the Jets had a good draft? lmao read this from the NY Daily News

The New York Daily News reports No. 38 pick Geno Smith has fired his agents over "displeasure (with) his draft position."
Welcome to the big leagues, Geno. Per reporter Manish Mehta, Smith thought he "would and should be the No. 1 overall pick," but was given "no assurance of his draft position." Smith shooting the messenger over his draft position isn't a promising indication of how he'll handle the New York spotlight




Have fun with this headcase hahaSounds like a ******, hell fit right in

JPizzack
05-01-2013, 01:55 PM
this place sucks.

Moke
05-01-2013, 01:59 PM
It does.

JPizzack
05-01-2013, 02:06 PM
This place is about as exciting as attending an NBA game....


lol

Moke
05-01-2013, 02:07 PM
MLB game for me. I hate baseball.

JPizzack
05-01-2013, 02:11 PM
MLB game for me. I hate baseball.

i admit it's not the most exciting thing out... lol

Moke
05-01-2013, 02:15 PM
No, I just can't "find" the time to watch a long baseball game. I rather listen to it while doing something else. It's not that difficult to visualize baseball when listening to it.

Football, hockey... little different.

JPizzack
05-01-2013, 02:19 PM
No, I just can't "find" the time to watch a long baseball game. I rather listen to it while doing something else. It's not that difficult to visualize baseball when listening to it.

Football, hockey... little different.

that's all true.

I went to a Yankee game a couple weeks ago, vs the Diamondbacks, and the game was only 2.5 hours long. that's gotta break a record for speed lol

I've been to Yanks/Sox games that have lasted till 11pm.....regular 9inning game >.<

Moke
05-01-2013, 02:21 PM
2.5 hours?!??!

Damn, I must get unlucky then. I go to games a few times a year and they last about 4 hours. Too long.

Moke
05-01-2013, 02:22 PM
Or somewhere around there...

JPizzack
05-01-2013, 02:34 PM
so bored today. I spent my first 2 hours here doing training sessions for some new system rollovers.....and then my next 2 hours doing all the supply work for the next few weeks. aaaaaaand now I have nothing to do. See what being diligent gets you?!?! =P

Morehead State
05-01-2013, 03:26 PM
2.5 hours?!??!

Damn, I must get unlucky then. I go to games a few times a year and they last about 4 hours. Too long.
Why are you going to games if you hate baseball?

JPizzack
05-02-2013, 09:01 AM
another action packed day in here or what?

JPizzack
05-02-2013, 09:17 AM
http://boards.giants.com/showthread.php?30628-ESPN-Nassib-best-pick-of-NFL-draft


Excerpt: "Throughout the seven rounds and 254 picks of the 2013 NFL draft, there were a lot of players with very impressive college careers welcomed into the professional ranks. And as I review all of the selections now, I'm reminded of one very important fact: All of those college titles, stats and accolades mean precisely zero in terms of their future in the NFL. The slate is wiped clean. From now on, the success of every player in this draft, be it No. 1 overall pick Eric Fisher or Mr. Irrelevant Justice Cunningham, will be determined by how hard they work and apply themselves on the pro playing fields.

As we reflect on the draft, we have a tendency to weight the higher picks more than players selected in later rounds. It's a natural inclination, but it's a faulty one. While they may not have stood out as much as their top-round counterparts in college, they have the same opportunity to succeed in the NFL. Just ask Joe Montana. Just ask Tom Brady. Just ask Alfred Morris.

In reviewing my favorite picks from the 2013 draft, that's a factor I keep at the top of my mind. And it's a big reason I think that the New York Giants landed a tremendous asset by taking Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib.

As I mentioned before the draft, there were no quarterbacks that I believed warranted an early selection. But that doesn't mean the position is devoid of talent. Just that these prospects need time to develop and make use of some of their tools and ability. With Nassib, he's going to get precisely that.

Playing behind Eli Manning, there will be no rush in his development. He can sit back, watch and learn, all while providing the Giants with a terrific safety net in the event of an injury to Eli and perhaps even proving to be Manning's successor.

By Nassib's third year in the pros, Manning will be 35, an age at which statistics have shown QBs usually start to break down physically. Their skills may not have diminished, but the accumulation of the punishment they've endured starts to take its toll and injury becomes far more common. By the time that starts to impact Eli, Nassib should be experienced to the point where the Giants will feel comfortable inserting him into a game and still feeling they have better than a 50-percent chance to win.

It may have seemed like a strange pick because quarterback isn't an immediate need for the Giants. But this pick was made with the long view in mind. And I think it was a very savvy selection."

dezzzR
05-02-2013, 10:45 AM
Have to say, watching Pughs senior bowl, Im not as impressed as I was.

Morehead State
05-02-2013, 11:22 AM
How classless were the Knicks last night?

dezzzR
05-02-2013, 11:24 AM
How classless were the Knicks last night?At the end? I missed it, switching back and forth between them and the yanks.

They couldnt hit ****. Missed over 10 in a row 3 pointers

JPizzack
05-02-2013, 11:28 AM
How classless were the Knicks last night?

I don't see anything about what youre talking about. what happened?

dezzzR
05-02-2013, 11:31 AM
Melos a ***** too. Garnet barely touched him and hes acting like his arms out of his socket. Hes always been like that though. He should play soccer.

Morehead State
05-02-2013, 01:38 PM
I don't see anything about what youre talking about. what happened?
No...the fact that they all showed up at the arena in black suits to signify "Boston's funeral"....as they put it.
Some think its terrible timing given the events in Boston. I'm not so sure that's true. I just think its classless in general.

JPizzack
05-02-2013, 02:10 PM
No...the fact that they all showed up at the arena in black suits to signify "Boston's funeral"....as they put it.
Some think its terrible timing given the events in Boston. I'm not so sure that's true. I just think its classless in general.

I read nothing about that. No idea, I didn't watch. I really only watch basketball when im at the bar.

Morehead State
05-02-2013, 02:21 PM
I read nothing about that. No idea, I didn't watch. I really only watch basketball when im at the bar.
Pretty big story in the sports world today.

dezzzR
05-02-2013, 02:34 PM
Pretty big story in the sports world today.Yea it was real tacky. But this Boston funeral comment is pc. Has nothing to do with what happened a few weeks ago. Same thing with the Boston Massacre shirts.

JPizzack
05-02-2013, 02:37 PM
Pretty big story in the sports world today.

i literally see nothing other than Jordan Crawford(who didnt even leave play in the game) talking mad **** to knicks players and sparking a fight. so whos the classless one, exactly?

Rudyy
05-02-2013, 02:45 PM
i literally see nothing other than Jordan Crawford(who didnt even leave play in the game) talking mad **** to knicks players and sparking a fight. so whos the classless one, exactly?He told Melo "That mother ****er ****ed your wife". Stay classy, Celtics.

JPizzack
05-02-2013, 02:47 PM
He told Melo "That mother ****er ****ed your wife". Stay classy, Celtics.

I'd give La La the bidnissss.....but I'm also not being watched by cameras on national television. lol

Morehead State
05-02-2013, 03:33 PM
Yea it was real tacky. But this Boston funeral comment is pc. Has nothing to do with what happened a few weeks ago. Same thing with the Boston Massacre shirts.
What shirts?

Morehead State
05-02-2013, 04:10 PM
And who's pitching better than Clay Buchholz right now?

JPizzack
05-02-2013, 04:17 PM
And who's pitching better than Clay Buchholz right now?

err nobody i know of. lol

Morehead State
05-02-2013, 04:37 PM
err nobody i know of. lol
Really the scariest change up since Johan Santana. A minus 15 change is unGodly.

Imgrate
05-03-2013, 12:46 AM
In 07 the giants wore black suits on the plane ride to the super bowl, because they were going to the pats funeral.

JPizzack
05-03-2013, 08:39 AM
In 07 the giants wore black suits on the plane ride to the super bowl, because they were going to the pats funeral.

I wear a black suit to most funerals.....

byron
05-03-2013, 08:42 AM
In 07 the giants wore black suits on the plane ride to the super bowl, because they were going to the pats funeral. that's different.......;)

Moke
05-03-2013, 09:36 AM
You guys post a ****load on facebook. You facebook *****s.

JPizzack
05-03-2013, 09:41 AM
You guys post a ****load on facebook. You facebook *****s.

on the group page thing you mean?

You didnt enjoy my photo of Morehead with Eli? lol

Moke
05-03-2013, 04:54 PM
on the group page thing you mean?

You didnt enjoy my photo of Morehead with Eli? lol

I have to check that out actually. I always get notificons but I never check what's being posted. FB is whck these days, use it ONCE in awhile.

JPizzack
05-04-2013, 02:30 PM
is Hughes "back"?!?!

JPizzack
05-06-2013, 08:26 AM
Finally watched that 30 for 30 short on Mr. Irrelevant, John Tuggle....and wow, even tho it was only 15 mins long, it was extremely emotional. I think seeing Parcells shed a tear was pretty powerful. It was really something.

dezzzR
05-06-2013, 10:11 AM
is Hughes "back"?!?!hope sooo

JPizzack
05-06-2013, 10:51 AM
I also watched the 30 for 30 "Elway to Marino". it was so friggin good!! I always forget that he was a Yankees prospect.

dezzzR
05-06-2013, 11:10 AM
I also watched the 30 for 30 "Elway to Marino". it was so friggin good!! I always forget that he was a Yankees prospect.started watching, changed the channel when a commercial came on and forgot about it. Hate when that happens

JPizzack
05-06-2013, 11:12 AM
started watching, changed the channel when a commercial came on and forgot about it. Hate when that happens

I ended up just watching it on youtube. they have all of them on there.

dezzzR
05-06-2013, 01:52 PM
wheres smelly ol MH? He doesnt instigate anymore.

Morehead State
05-06-2013, 01:57 PM
wheres smelly ol MH? He doesnt instigate anymore.
My work is done.
I've decided to let you all fly on your own.

JPizzack
05-06-2013, 02:53 PM
My work is done.
I've decided to let you all fly on your own.

Well ****.......that's boring.....

dezzzR
05-06-2013, 04:06 PM
MH's "done" because JR proved his "draft for need" thesis to be false. :)

Morehead State
05-06-2013, 04:51 PM
MH's "done" because JR proved his "draft for need" thesis to be false. :)
What was my "thesis" again?

Because it seems to me that this draft proved that JR often drafts for need in round 1.
I'm wondering how this draft did anything but prove my point.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 08:16 AM
What was my "thesis" again?

Because it seems to me that this draft proved that JR often drafts for need in round 1.
I'm wondering how this draft did anything but prove my point.

There's no real right answer, because he drafts both for need, and BPA. Hakeem Nicks = Need, JPP = BPA. I thought we were done with this....

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 10:39 AM
There's no real right answer, because he drafts both for need, and BPA. Hakeem Nicks = Need, JPP = BPA. I thought we were done with this....
Me too...but little Dezzy brought it back.

This draft supported my view that JR is not strictly a BPA drafter. I've cited many times where he drafted for need in round one. More times than not.
As a matter of fact, in his 8 drafts, he's gone strictly BPA in round 1 twice.
Every other pick addressed a glaring need. This season was actually the most acute example of that when he reached into round 2 with the 19th pick to chase our desperate need for a RT.

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 10:45 AM
What was my "thesis" again?

Because it seems to me that this draft proved that JR often drafts for need in round 1.
I'm wondering how this draft did anything but prove my point.http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Tom-Coughlin-on-2013-Draft/47f87a69-c125-4263-9687-0e7e913a8d69

TC "The philosophy of the NY Giants has always been BPA, BPA, BPA"

Jerry Reese: He(Pugh) was best player available and a need for us.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 10:49 AM
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Tom-Coughlin-on-2013-Draft/47f87a69-c125-4263-9687-0e7e913a8d69

TC "The philosophy of the NY Giants has always been BPA, BPA, BPA"

Jerry Reese: He(Pugh) was best player available and a need for us.
Every GM says that. It makes them sound like "purists". Its some romantic notion that is complete BS.
Is it your view that Trufant, Rhodes, or Floyd were rated lower on ANY Gm's board going into this draft?
Pugh was generally rated between 50 and 60 on most draft reviews.

The reality is that JR had put himself in a bad spot by having a huge hole in our roster with no starting RT. When Fluker went he panicked.
Fluker made sense at 19. When there was a run on O linemen he allowed himself desperately chase need.
Xavier Rhodes is a far better prospect than Justin Pugh.

byron
05-07-2013, 10:57 AM
Me too...but little Dezzy brought it back.

This draft supported my view that JR is not strictly a BPA drafter. I've cited many times where he drafted for need in round one. More times than not.
As a matter of fact, in his 8 drafts, he's gone strictly BPA in round 1 twice.
Every other pick addressed a glaring need. This season was actually the most acute example of that when he reached into round 2 with the 19th pick to chase our desperate need for a RT. here's what I think the giants decided to go online in the first round of this draft..... they made a list of players they liked and took the bpa player left from/on that list at nineteen....pretty simple really call it a reach "or whatever" I call it a premeditated move and yes it was a need move.....In my mind you want a good online that's going to be around for a while "years" you draft it....and it wasn't that much of a reach they would have missed him had they waited till their second pick

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 10:57 AM
I just dont understand why it has to be one or the other with you. Pugh was BPA AND a need. If we didnt take him the Cowboys or the Bears most likely would have. That alone increases his value.

byron
05-07-2013, 10:58 AM
Every GM says that. It makes them sound like "purists". Its some romantic notion that is complete BS.
Is it your view that Trufant, Rhodes, or Floyd were rated lower on ANY Gm's board going into this draft?
Pugh was generally rated between 50 and 60 on most draft reviews.

The reality is that JR had put himself in a bad spot by having a huge hole in our roster with no starting RT. When Fluker went he panicked.
Fluker made sense at 19. When there was a run on O linemen he allowed himself desperately chase need.
Xavier Rhodes is a far better prospect than Justin Pugh. Jerry paniced ? come on man

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 11:13 AM
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Tom-Coughlin-on-2013-Draft/47f87a69-c125-4263-9687-0e7e913a8d69

TC "The philosophy of the NY Giants has always been BPA, BPA, BPA"

Jerry Reese: He(Pugh) was best player available and a need for us.

Pugh was not the BPA.....neither was Hakeem Nicks, technically....JPP, yes, most likely was. Same for Prince....

I take that quote as saying we needed an OT, and he was the best available. which to me, is different.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 11:17 AM
Jerry paniced ? come on man
He panicked B. He had NO RT on the roster. At least not a starter. That's on him. He cut DD's pay by 80% which demonstrates that the see him strictly as a backup.
He said he had Fluker rated higher than Pugh. (obviously) NO ONE thought Fluker was going to be gone at 19.
But when there was a run on O linemen, JR had great talent, top 10 talent, absolutely drop in his lap. But because of his miscalculation both in failing to secure a starting RT in free agency, AND misjudging the way the draft would go, he had boxed himself in. He had to pass on superior prospects because he was forced to draft to need at RT.
He ****ed up the first round. His other picks were fine as far as I'm concerned. I call it panic. You can call it something else if you want. But he screwed up.....PERIOD!!!

To suggest for a second that Pugh was the BPA at 19 with the kind of great talent that fell is naive on steroids.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 11:21 AM
Pugh was not the BPA.....neither was Hakeem Nicks, technically....JPP, yes, most likely was. Same for Prince....

I take that quote as saying we needed an OT, and he was the best available. which to me, is different.
Exactly Pizz. JPP and Prince were both BPA.
Ross, KP, Nicks, Pugh and Wilson were definitely needs picks.

And I'm not saying I don't like needs picks. That can be a decent strategy based on how far off you have a player rated with your pick. But reaching as far as they did for Pugh, and the reasons why they had to, is the problem.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 11:21 AM
here's what I think the giants decided to go online in the first round of this draft..... they made a list of players they liked and took the bpa player left from/on that list at nineteen....pretty simple really call it a reach "or whatever" I call it a premeditated move and yes it was a need move.....In my mind you want a good online that's going to be around for a while "years" you draft it....and it wasn't that much of a reach they would have missed him had they waited till their second pick

this is essentially my POV.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 11:26 AM
Exactly Pizz. JPP and Prince were both BPA.
Ross, KP, Nicks, Pugh and Wilson were definitely needs picks.

And I'm not saying I don't like needs picks. That can be a decent strategy based on how far off you have a player rated with your pick. But reaching as far as they did for Pugh, and the reasons why they had to, is the problem.

I disagreee with the thought that he was reaching....the only "Panicking" Reese did was in thinking that his boy Pugh would be gone before our 2nd pick. It's possible that he would have been, but he took a 2nd rounder in the 1st essentially. I'm not even saying it was BAD, but you and I share the same side of the BPA argument FO SHO. i dont even care HOW the Giants draft, just so long as they get quality players, and make sure we fill the roster adequately.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 11:28 AM
What do you guys think of that Aaron Curry visit? If health wasn't an issue, I'd LOVE that guy. Coming out of the 09 draft, he was my favorite LB.

Buttttt I don't trust injured guys. So unless he's pennies, idk how I'd feel about him. I guess "if the price is right" is my main point...

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 11:38 AM
What do you guys think of that Aaron Curry visit? If health wasn't an issue, I'd LOVE that guy. Coming out of the 09 draft, he was my favorite LB.

Buttttt I don't trust injured guys. So unless he's pennies, idk how I'd feel about him. I guess "if the price is right" is my main point...Everyone keeps saying we need lbs but the giants are usually in nickle or their 3 safety sets so I dont see it as a big issue. Williams and whoever they bring in will do ok

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 11:44 AM
I disagreee with the thought that he was reaching....the only "Panicking" Reese did was in thinking that his boy Pugh would be gone before our 2nd pick. It's possible that he would have been, but he took a 2nd rounder in the 1st essentially. I'm not even saying it was BAD, but you and I share the same side of the BPA argument FO SHO. i dont even care HOW the Giants draft, just so long as they get quality players, and make sure we fill the roster adequately.
There is no doubt that other teams were in the mode to reach as well. But Pugh wasn't "their guy" If anything, Fluker was. But they had to desperately fill that RT spot since JR ****ed up free agency and didn't get a solid vet.

All the old rules on O linemen have changed since the new CBA. We have a shaved cap AND a rookie wage scale. So now all these GM's are going after these "non skill positions" (especially interior line and RT) in the draft and dumping their vets. All these guys like Eric Winston think they are worth more than they are. These GM's are scrambling for these guys because they can pay them peanuts compared to what vets get and focus the cash on QB and other skill guys.

I'm sorry...but JR miscalculated this entire thing. Pugh is a mid second round talent and we picked him in the mid first round. We had top 10 talent available and we ****ing passed.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 11:49 AM
Everyone keeps saying we need lbs but the giants are usually in nickle or their 3 safety sets so I dont see it as a big issue. Williams and whoever they bring in will do ok

I rather add ACTUAL talent at one position or the other rather than just run specific sets that come as a result of LACK of talent at said positions.

byron
05-07-2013, 11:52 AM
He panicked B. He had NO RT on the roster. At least not a starter. That's on him. He cut DD's pay by 80% which demonstrates that the see him strictly as a backup.
He said he had Fluker rated higher than Pugh. (obviously) NO ONE thought Fluker was going to be gone at 19.
But when there was a run on O linemen, JR had great talent, top 10 talent, absolutely drop in his lap. But because of his miscalculation both in failing to secure a starting RT in free agency, AND misjudging the way the draft would go, he had boxed himself in. He had to pass on superior prospects because he was forced to draft to need at RT.
He ****ed up the first round. His other picks were fine as far as I'm concerned. I call it panic. You can call it something else if you want. But he screwed up.....PERIOD!!!

To suggest for a second that Pugh was the BPA at 19 with the kind of great talent that fell is naive on steroids. nah I'm not suggesting that pugh was bpa of all the players available at 19.... I'm saying they wanted online and he was the bpa left on their list of linemen ....its simple man they were going online all the way no panic at all ...and if needed be DD would have or maybe even will be the starter this year....I don't care what went down or how much they are paying him....you need a rt and he's all you got you play him....stop ****ting on David he's a great giant.....except reality

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 11:54 AM
nah I'm not suggesting that pugh was bpa of all the players available at 19.... I'm saying they wanted online and he was the bpa left on their list of linemen ....its simple man they were going online all the way no panic at all ...and if needed be DD would have or maybe even will be the starter this year....I don't care what went down or how much they are paying him....you need a rt and he's all you got you play him....stop ****ting on David he's a great giant.....except reality
Well obviously he was the BPA at the specific position they needed.
The problem I have is that we put ourselves in such a bad position at RT, that we had to chase the best tackle remaining even if it meant passing on far superior talent at other positions.
In my book, that's bad drafting.

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 12:00 PM
There is no doubt that other teams were in the mode to reach as well. But Pugh wasn't "their guy" If anything, Fluker was. But they had to desperately fill that RT spot since JR ****ed up free agency and didn't get a solid vet.

All the old rules on O linemen have changed since the new CBA. We have a shaved cap AND a rookie wage scale. So now all these GM's are going after these "non skill positions" (especially interior line and RT) in the draft and dumping their vets. All these guys like Eric Winston think they are worth more than they are. These GM's are scrambling for these guys because they can pay them peanuts compared to what vets get and focus the cash on QB and other skill guys.

I'm sorry...but JR miscalculated this entire thing. Pugh is a mid second round talent and we picked him in the mid first round. We had top 10 talent available and we ****ing passed.We are also desperate to fill Linbacker and we didnt even take one. Reese can pick up the phone and start looking for a decent tackle right now if he wanted. Youre acting like free agency is over after the draft or theres no possible way they can pick up a decent tackle.

And if vet tackles are so expensive right now like youre claiming, isnt a good thing we drafted one, especially with the cap so tight?
It wasnt a panic move at all.

byron
05-07-2013, 12:03 PM
There is no doubt that other teams were in the mode to reach as well. But Pugh wasn't "their guy" If anything, Fluker was. But they had to desperately fill that RT spot since JR ****ed up free agency and didn't get a solid vet.

All the old rules on O linemen have changed since the new CBA. We have a shaved cap AND a rookie wage scale. So now all these GM's are going after these "non skill positions" (especially interior line and RT) in the draft and dumping their vets. All these guys like Eric Winston think they are worth more than they are. These GM's are scrambling for these guys because they can pay them peanuts compared to what vets get and focus the cash on QB and other skill guys.

I'm sorry...but JR miscalculated this entire thing. Pugh is a mid second round talent and we picked him in the mid first round. We had top 10 talent available and we ****ing passed. Its all about the cap.... wtf with the reach word and what hell does it really mean ...even if he miscalculated who might be there at 19.... to say he panicked and made some kind of irrational decision is ridiculous he wasn't the only one I the room...somebody surly would have said jerry your flipping out calm down ....

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 12:06 PM
We are also desperate to fill Linbacker and we didnt even take one. Reese can pick up the phone and start looking for a decent tackle right now if he wanted. Youre acting like free agency is over after the draft or theres no possible way they can pick up a decent tackle.

And if vet tackles are so expensive right now like youre claiming, isnt a good thing we drafted one, especially with the cap so tight?
It wasnt a panic move at all.
LB'rs don't have the impact in today's NFL anymore and JR knows it. Its all about up front on defense and having playmakers in the secondary to create turnovers.
Especially in our scheme.

And tackles will come down in price very quickly with the market the way it is,
If we sign Eric Winston all with be forgiven for me.

byron
05-07-2013, 12:06 PM
Well obviously he was the BPA at the specific position they needed.
The problem I have is that we put ourselves in such a bad position at RT, that we had to chase the best tackle remaining even if it meant passing on far superior talent at other positions.
In my book, that's bad drafting. look man at some point you have to make such decisions to better the team as a whole the online needs to be rebuilt now not next year now

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 12:08 PM
Its all about the cap.... wtf with the reach word and what hell does it really mean ...even if he miscalculated who might be there at 19.... to say he panicked and made some kind of irrational decision is ridiculous he wasn't the only one I the room...somebody surly would have said jerry your flipping out calm down ....
You don't get it B. The decision was made when we didn't deal with the gaping hole at RT in our roster...before the draft. The draft isn't for filling holes. Thats what free agency is for. The draft is about building your team.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 12:10 PM
look man at some point you have to make such decisions to better the team as a whole the online needs to be rebuilt now not next year now
You can't fix the O line THIS YEAR in the draft. You draft PROSPECTS. To have to count on a draftee to start, especially a guy who was the 7th or 8th best O linemen in the draft is very bad policy.
If you wanted to fix the O line THIS YEAR, you sign a vet who you can plug into that spot.

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 12:12 PM
LB'rs don't have the impact in today's NFL anymore and JR knows it. Its all about up front on defense and having playmakers in the secondary to create turnovers.
Especially in our scheme.

And tackles will come down in price very quickly with the market the way it is,
If we sign Eric Winston all with be forgiven for me.Linebackers are apart of the secondary. Especially in our scheme since we dont blitz often.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 12:22 PM
Linebackers are apart of the secondary. Especially in our scheme since we dont blitz often.
No they aren't Dez. You've got to be kidding me.

Our defense is based on 2 things.
Disrupting the QB.
Creating turnovers.

BTW....given today's rules, that's essentially the basis for most every defense. Or at least their aspirations.

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 12:32 PM
No they aren't Dez. You've got to be kidding me.

Our defense is based on 2 things.
Disrupting the QB.
Creating turnovers.

BTW....given today's rules, that's essentially the basis for most every defense. Or at least their aspirations.Our linebackers drop back in coverage a majority of the time. Theres no denying this, its fact.

Many people consider linebackers apart of the secondary, especially since the leagues becoming more passer friendly.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 12:42 PM
it's not really coincidence that alot of the top defenses in the league sport pretty good LBs.....in my opinion anyway...

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 12:46 PM
What do you guys like better, 3-4 or 4-3?

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 12:46 PM
What do you guys like better, 3-4 or 4-3?

4-3 usually

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 01:21 PM
Our linebackers drop back in coverage a majority of the time. Theres no denying this, its fact.

Many people consider linebackers apart of the secondary, especially since the leagues becoming more passer friendly.
I've never heard anyone refering to LB's as "secondary".
The secondary is the corners and safeties.
Thechicality I suppose. But without technicalities we have chaos.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 01:31 PM
I've never heard anyone refering to LB's as "secondary".
The secondary is the corners and safeties.
Thechicality I suppose. But without technicalities we have chaos.

errr, i consider LBs secondary also....the term "getting into the 2nd level" mean past the line into LB territory....i consider them part of both run stopping and pass defense.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 01:37 PM
errr, i consider LBs secondary also....the term "getting into the 2nd level" mean past the line into LB territory....i consider them part of both run stopping and pass defense.
So what? They aren't "the secondary".

Ask anyone when they refer to the secondary, if they are including Linebackers.
Its complete nonsense.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 01:44 PM
From "NFL For Dummies"
So its perfect for you two.


The Positions in a Football Secondary By Howie Long (http://www.dummies.com/search.html?query=Howie+Long) and John Czarnecki (http://www.dummies.com/search.html?query=John+Czarnecki) from Football For Dummies, 4th US Edition (http://www.dummies.com/store/product/Football-For-Dummies-4th-US-Edition.productCd-1118012615.html)
The secondary is the name given to the group of players on an American football team who make up the defensive backfield. All the players who make up the secondary are called defensive backs, but that category is further divided. In a nutshell, these players are responsible for preventing the opponent’s receivers from catching the ball. If they fail, they must then make the tackle, preventing a possible touchdown. The different players work in slightly different ways.
Cornerbacks The cornerback is typically the fastest of the defensive backs. The ideal NFL (http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-positions-in-a-football-secondary.html#glossary-NFL) cornerback can run the 40-yard dash in 4.4 seconds, weighs between 180 and 190 pounds, and is at least 6 feet tall. However, the average NFL cornerback is about 5’10”. Although speed and agility remain the necessary commodities, height is becoming a factor in order to defend the ever-increasing height of today’s wide receivers.
Here’s the cornerback’s role in two specific types of coverage:
Cornerbacks in man-to-man coverage: Most defensive schemes employ two cornerbacks (CB) in man-to-man coverage against the offense’s wide receivers (WR).
http://media.wiley.com/Lux/89/283889.image1.jpg



Cornerbacks in zone coverage: If a team’s cornerbacks are smaller and slower than its opponent’s receivers, that team usually plays more zone coverages, fearing that fast receivers will expose its secondary’s athletic weaknesses. However, if you have two talented cornerbacks, your team can play more man-to-man coverage.

Safeties Most defenses employ two safeties — a strong safety and a free safety. They must see and recognize the offense’s formations and instruct their teammates to make whatever coverage adjustments are necessary:


Strong safety: Of the two types of safeties, the strong safety is generally bigger, stronger, and slower. Coaches often refer to (and judge) their safeties as small linebackers. These players should

Be above-average tacklers
Have the ability to backpedal and quickly retreat in order to cover a specified area to defend the pass (which is called dropping into pass coverage)

The strong safety normally aligns to the tight (http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-positions-in-a-football-secondary.html#glossary-tight_end) end (http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-positions-in-a-football-secondary.html#glossary-tight_end) side of the offensive formation (also known as the strong side, hence the name strong safety), and 99 percent of the time, his pass coverage responsibility is either the tight end or a running (http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-positions-in-a-football-secondary.html#glossary-running_back;_tailback;_halfback;_wingback) back (http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-positions-in-a-football-secondary.html#glossary-running_back;_tailback;_halfback;_wingback) who leaves the backfield.
Free safety: Generally more athletic and less physical than the strong safety. He usually positions himself 12 to 15 yards deep and off the line of scrimmage.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 01:49 PM
thanks for the chart, barney stinson

byron
05-07-2013, 01:51 PM
You don't get it B. The decision was made when we didn't deal with the gaping hole at RT in our roster...before the draft. The draft isn't for filling holes. Thats what free agency is for. The draft is about building your team. seriously man how the hell do you now what their plan was when decisions were made or anything else for that matter.....its a speculation.....you win Jerry ****ed up tbh I don't know how he keeps his job the ****ing imgrate....

byron
05-07-2013, 01:52 PM
thanks for the chart, barney stinson lol

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 02:02 PM
seriously man how the hell do you now what their plan was when decisions were made or anything else for that matter.....its a speculation.....you win Jerry ****ed up tbh I don't know how he keeps his job the ****ing imgrate....

RIGHT?!?! MIGHT AS WEL JUST ****ING FIRE EVERYONE!!!!

Bring back Accorsi! maybe we can draft John Elway!

byron
05-07-2013, 02:05 PM
You don't get it B. The decision was made when we didn't deal with the gaping hole at RT in our roster...before the draft. The draft isn't for filling holes. Thats what free agency is for. The draft is about building your team. tomato... Tamarto

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 02:08 PM
thanks for the chart, barney stinson
I don't know who that is. But calling LB'rs, "the secondary" is absolutely ridiculous.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 02:12 PM
tomato... Tamarto
I don't understand your point here B. This is a fundamental error made by JR at a time where an tremendous and rare stroke of luck (great talent dropping in our laps) was not taken advantage of.
It was more a move for Jerry Jones and not Jerry Reese.
He chased a need in the draft and lost out on a great prospect, that wouldn't have been necessary if he had done his job in free agency.

I said it a month ago when I said his neglect of the O line in free agency was a huge problem.

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 02:13 PM
I don't know who that is. But calling LB'rs, "the secondary" is absolutely ridiculous.they drop back in coverage like your chart says, no? They are the second line of defense behind the dline.

Seems fitting.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 02:14 PM
they drop back in coverage like your chart says, no? They are the second line of defense behind the dline.

Seems fitting.
Its like calling a RB a WR because he goes out for a pass.
Keep digging Dez.

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 02:16 PM
seriously man how the hell do you now what their plan was when decisions were made or anything else for that matter.....its a speculation.....you win Jerry ****ed up tbh I don't know how he keeps his job the ****ing imgrate....Again, Mh is acting like we had better shot at signing a free agent tackle before the draft than we do now. Its not the case. Who do you think Reese should have brought in?? Could the giants afford him?

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 02:17 PM
Its like calling a RB a WR because he goes out for a pass.
Keep digging Dez.Iv herd people include linebackers as part of the secondary. Stop being anal.

byron
05-07-2013, 02:29 PM
I don't understand your point here B. This is a fundamental error made by JR at a time where an tremendous and rare stroke of luck (great talent dropping in our laps) was not taken advantage of.
It was more a move for Jerry Jones and not Jerry Reese.
He chased a need in the draft and lost out on a great prospect, that wouldn't have been necessary if he had done his job in free agency.

I said it a month ago when I said his neglect of the O line in free agency was a huge problem. he's trying to rebuild the OL/team you said it yourself in the previous post......they obviously decided it was time to build.....unless you believe jerry went totally ****ing bonkers during FA and the draft of coarse.....I done

byron
05-07-2013, 02:33 PM
Iv herd people include linebackers as part of the secondary. Stop being anal. http://www.definitions.net/definition/secondary #12

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 02:38 PM
http://www.definitions.net/definition/secondary #12

hahahaha yesssss
=P

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 02:40 PM
Again, Mh is acting like we had better shot at signing a free agent tackle before the draft than we do now. Its not the case. Who do you think Reese should have brought in?? Could the giants afford him?
I would have preferred Eric Winston to several of our signings.
I like each move but would have preferred a RT. Since we literally didn't have one as a starter on the roster.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 02:41 PM
I can give you 100 "football" sites that say that's wrong.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 02:45 PM
I would have preferred Eric Winston to several of our signings.
I like each move but would have preferred a RT. Since we literally didn't have one as a starter on the roster.

I'll take anyone with talent lol

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 02:46 PM
http://www.definitions.net/definition/secondary #12Big B. Fighting the good fight

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 02:50 PM
Big B. Fighting the good fight
No he's just trying to be a thorn in Morehead's side today.

I get the demented mind of Big B. I'm actually impressed. I love it when B is frisky.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 02:52 PM
MH, do you agree with this? I love this mother****er!

http://tucsoncitizen.com/hispanic-politico/files/2013/05/tumblr_mmbteqCqQy1qhnteyo1_1280-560x420.jpg

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 03:00 PM
MH, do you agree with this? I love this mother****er!

http://tucsoncitizen.com/hispanic-politico/files/2013/05/tumblr_mmbteqCqQy1qhnteyo1_1280-560x420.jpgI like him. Plays everything, sings.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 03:01 PM
I like him. Plays everything, sings.

Even if I'm not necessarily a Nirvana, or FF fan....I'm still a huge Dave Grohl fan...like, he's someone I want to hang out with. THAT kind of guy

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 03:05 PM
MH, do you agree with this? I love this mother****er!

http://tucsoncitizen.com/hispanic-politico/files/2013/05/tumblr_mmbteqCqQy1qhnteyo1_1280-560x420.jpg
Only every word.

And Dave Grohl is awesome.

You know he came 'this close' to playing the drums for Tom Petty?

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 03:08 PM
Only every word.

And Dave Grohl is awesome.

You know he came 'this close' to playing the drums for Tom Petty?

he's worked with a ton of great musicians, recording their albums.

wanna hear a cool fact?

Dave Grohl is the only person to ever appear at #1 on Billboard's rock charts, 3 times consecutively, with 3 different bands?

Nirvana - "You know Youre right"
Foo Fighters - "All my Life"
Queens of the Stoneage - "No one knows"

All 3 held the #1 spot on the charts in consecutive appearances. that's ****ing BOSS status success lol

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 03:08 PM
BTW... I strongly believe in our criminal justice system. I think every accused person deserves a vigorous defense.

But sometimes you just need to take guys out and shoot them like animals. Like these creeps in Cleveland.


And that's my home town for God's sake.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 03:10 PM
he's worked with a ton of great musicians, recording their albums.

wanna hear a cool fact?

Dave Grohl is the only person to ever appear at #1 on Billboard's rock charts, 3 times consecutively, with 3 different bands?

Nirvana - "You know Youre right"
Foo Fighters - "All my Life"
Queens of the Stoneage - "No one knows"

All 3 held the #1 spot on the charts in consecutive appearances. that's ****ing BOSS status success lol

I loved the documentary about Grohl where he recorded a Foo Fighters album in his garage. He would take his kid out to the pool between tracks.
Guys just a great dude. And I really don't like the Foo Fighters very much. Just hard not to like the guy. He's got it figured out.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 03:13 PM
I loved the documentary about Grohl where he recorded a Foo Fighters album in his garage. He would take his kid out to the pool between tracks.
Guys just a great dude. And I really don't like the Foo Fighters very much. Just hard not to like the guy. He's got it figured out.

never seen it, but i actually just read that a week or so ago lol. I like SOME Foo Fighters....There's an acoustic version of "Everlong" floating around the internet from the late 90s that I've had since back then that is absolutely ****ing incredible.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 03:16 PM
never seen it, but i actually just read that a week or so ago lol. I like SOME Foo Fighters....There's an acoustic version of "Everlong" floating around the internet from the late 90s that I've had since back then that is absolutely ****ing incredible.
"Breath out....so I can breath you in", Is a GREAT lyric.

JPizzack
05-07-2013, 03:35 PM
"Breath out....so I can breath you in", Is a GREAT lyric.

Powerful song.....

My buddy from the band "Just Surrender" did a cover band briefly about a year ago, mostly 90s covers....and asked if I wanted to sing that at the bar one night. **** YES was my response.

Morehead State
05-07-2013, 04:10 PM
Faith Hill> Carrie Underwood

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 04:19 PM
BTW... I strongly believe in our criminal justice system. I think every accused person deserves a vigorous defense.

But sometimes you just need to take guys out and shoot them like animals. Like these creeps in Cleveland.


And that's my home town for God's sake.Agreed. No need to parade them around, put their face in the media and give us his back round, how hard he had it. Then suddenly hes another victim just like these ****s in Boston. Troubling times

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 04:24 PM
Yea nirvana and ff arent really favorites of mine but I like quite a few songs of theirs. I always wondered how people like Dave and Maynard find time to be in two popular bands at the same time.

dezzzR
05-07-2013, 04:48 PM
Ranger game was really something last night. Close, too close. Need to keep scoring.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 09:49 AM
Yea nirvana and ff arent really favorites of mine but I like quite a few songs of theirs. I always wondered how people like Dave and Maynard find time to be in two popular bands at the same time.

Well, Dave Grohl was never technically working in more than 1 band at a time. After Nirvana came the Foo Fighters, which he techjnically recorded the first album all by himself doping everything before actually putting together a band.

in '01, he was asked to be the drummer for Queens of the Stone Age first album, knowing it wasn't permanent.

And about 2 years ago, while not working on any Foo Fighters material, he had a side project called "Them Crooked Vultures"....which was honestly a pretty freakin' awesome album if you havent heard it.(John Paul Jones from Zeppelin is in that band, and Josh Homme from Queens of the Stoneage, and Eagles of Death Metal)

MattMeyerBud
05-08-2013, 12:26 PM
Faith Hill> Carrie Underwood

my first time back in thee thread ina few weeks and this is the first post I see

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:28 PM
Faith Hill> Carrie UnderwoodIn terms of...

byron
05-08-2013, 12:40 PM
In terms of... Carrie will be taking over the Sunday night football theme song duties from Faith...in terms of all other things Carrie is >

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 12:40 PM
In terms of...
Carrie Underwood is taking over for Faith Hill on SNF!!!!!!

What's wrong with you people!!!!!

(well I already know what's wrong with Matt)

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 12:43 PM
There is Faith Hill....and before that there was Nancy Wilson.
These are the women guys my age lusted after.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:45 PM
Carrie Underwood is taking over for Faith Hill on SNF!!!!!!

What's wrong with you people!!!!!

(well I already know what's wrong with Matt)I know, Carrie Underwood is awesome though.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:45 PM
Carrie will be taking over the Sunday night football theme song duties from Faith...in terms of all other things Carrie is >I know, I just don't see why Morehead doesn't like it lol.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 12:47 PM
Carrie Underwood is taking over for Faith Hill on SNF!!!!!!

What's wrong with you people!!!!!

(well I already know what's wrong with Matt)

It's all complete crap, who cares....I dont think any of these people represent football. It's bogus.

When you think football, do you think faith hill? wtf no...

they need some obnoxious rock stars in there to fit the persona of football players lol

byron
05-08-2013, 12:48 PM
I know, I just don't see why Morehead doesn't like it lol. he hates change

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 12:48 PM
I know, I just don't see why Morehead doesn't like it lol.

Because Morehead doesn't like anything young, whether a person or not. That's not a joke.

Faith Hill is bangin', and in her 40s....Carrie Underwood is young....so morehead despises her based on that alone.

byron
05-08-2013, 12:51 PM
It's all complete crap, who cares....I dont think any of these people represent football. It's bogus.

When you think football, do you think faith hill? wtf no...

they need some obnoxious rock stars in there to fit the persona of football players lol everybody likes dancing girls for almost every occasion but hey hank done a good job

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:51 PM
he hates changeAh...Republican.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:52 PM
Because Morehead doesn't like anything young, whether a person or not. That's not a joke.

Faith Hill is bangin', and in her 40s....Carrie Underwood is young....so morehead despises her based on that alone.LOL.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:53 PM
It's all complete crap, who cares....I dont think any of these people represent football. It's bogus.

When you think football, do you think faith hill? wtf no...

they need some obnoxious rock stars in there to fit the persona of football players lolEh....obnoxious rock stars? Lol...alrighty then.

byron
05-08-2013, 12:54 PM
Because Morehead doesn't like anything young, whether a person or not. That's not a joke.

Faith Hill is bangin', and in her 40s....Carrie Underwood is bangin and young....so morehead despises her based on that alone. fixed

byron
05-08-2013, 12:55 PM
Ah...Republican. he is a republican

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 12:55 PM
Because Morehead doesn't like anything young, whether a person or not. That's not a joke.

Faith Hill is bangin', and in her 40s....Carrie Underwood is young....so morehead despises her based on that alone.
No edge to Carrie Underwood.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:56 PM
he is a republicanI know.

I know Byron.

BYRON I KNOW.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:56 PM
No edge to Carrie Underwood.Smh

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 12:57 PM
he is a republican
I'm a small government conservative. That's not the same as being a Republican.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 12:59 PM
I'm a small government conservative. That's not the same as being a Republican.Can't argue with you here actually.

Which is rare.

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 01:02 PM
It's all complete crap, who cares....I dont think any of these people represent football. It's bogus.

When you think football, do you think faith hill? wtf no...

they need some obnoxious rock stars in there to fit the persona of football players lolWhen I think of football I think of beyonce
http://sandrarose.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/enhanced-buzz-29263-1360264409-2.jpg?42e305

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 01:05 PM
fixed

lmao....I'd give Faith the business over Carrie Underwood anyday....mostly because CU has crazy tendancies....

byron
05-08-2013, 01:06 PM
so I usually do my own vehicle repairs but I had to send my pickup to the shop ....AC isn't working which I diagnosed to the clutch not kicking in the compressor ....it through a engine code while I was trying to figure out the AC....I know the engine code is misfire but changing plugs on the thing is a bear due to location and also requires special tools I don't have They quoted me 1000.00 max to do the job 500.00 if things go good .....and the AC who knows....I be bumming

byron
05-08-2013, 01:07 PM
I know.

I know Byron.

BYRON I KNOW. just making sure....lol

byron
05-08-2013, 01:09 PM
lmao....I'd give Faith the business over Carrie Underwood anyday....mostly because CU has crazy tendancies.... you don't like crazy !? haha......they are both hot no doubt tho

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 01:10 PM
so I usually do my own vehicle repairs but I had to send my pickup to the shop ....AC isn't working which I diagnosed to the clutch not kicking in the compressor ....it through a engine code while I was trying to figure out the AC....I know the engine code is misfire but changing plugs on the thing is a bear due to location and also requires special tools I don't have They quoted me 1000.00 max to do the job 500.00 if things go good .....and the AC who knows....I be bumming
You live in Maine! What the hell do you need AC for???

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 01:10 PM
I just don't get WHY all the NFL intros for the past however many years have all been country artists....give me something to get ****ing amped over....

in the 90s, I watched wwe wrestling, and THEY got it....their superstars have entrance music that people go absolutely ape-sh*t over.

these current intros are straight up cringe-worthy. the networks should be embarassed honestly that they are shelling out millions for these ppl to mock the game. yes, I feel strongly about it,because I honestly cant' stand watching SNF and MNF for those reasons(besides the fact taht I don't like night games to begin with lol)

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 01:11 PM
you don't like crazy !? haha......they are both hot no doubt tho

NEVER PUT YOUR **** IN CRAZY!!!!!!

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 01:13 PM
I celebrate every May 8th.

The great man's birthday!!!

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 01:13 PM
Id take a hot puma over a good looking crazy girl anyday.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 01:13 PM
I just don't get WHY all the NFL intros for the past however many years have all been country artists....give me something to get ****ing amped over....

in the 90s, I watched wwe wrestling, and THEY got it....their superstars have entrance music that people go absolutely ape-sh*t over.

these current intros are straight up cringe-worthy. the networks should be embarassed honestly that they are shelling out millions for these ppl to mock the game. yes, I feel strongly about it,because I honestly cant' stand watching SNF and MNF for those reasons(besides the fact taht I don't like night games to begin with lol)Part of it is because they have to make it family oriented.

I don't think you're going to see Marilyn Mason, Slayer, or Slipknot do the openings for SNF or MNF.

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 01:14 PM
I celebrate every May 8th.

The great man's birthday!!!Todays Elis bday??

byron
05-08-2013, 01:14 PM
You live in Maine! What the hell do you need AC for??? its gets hot up here man "for a few days in july" lol.... I have to have it plus I don't like things that ain't working it was working fine a few months ago....

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 01:14 PM
Todays Elis bday??
I said "great"....not "pretty good".

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 01:14 PM
I celebrate every May 8th.

The great man's birthday!!!

Bill Cowher, Lovie Smith and Ronnie Lott all share May 8th bdays.

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 01:16 PM
Bill Cowher, Lovie Smith and Ronnie Lott all share May 8th bdays.
Wrong. Wrong. And wrong.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 01:17 PM
Part of it is because they have to make it family oriented.

I don't think you're going to see Marilyn Mason, Slayer, or Slipknot do the openings for SNF or MNF.

definitely not what i had in mind.

I'd literally take anything over the current **** theyve had the past decade tho....

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 01:17 PM
Wrong. Wrong. And wrong.Is this person real?

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 01:18 PM
Wrong. Wrong. And wrong.

Sonny Liston

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 01:18 PM
definitely not what i had in mind.

I'd literally take anything over the current **** theyve had the past decade tho....Darn...Justin Bieber is out of the picture :/ /red

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 01:18 PM
Part of it is because they have to make it family oriented.

I don't think you're going to see Marilyn Mason, Slayer, or Slipknot do the openings for SNF or MNF.I dont think Madonna or Janet Jackson, Beyonce is family oriented either. Cant they get like Bob Segar or something? Then again I guess the country signers are ok considering the other options

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 01:18 PM
Is this person real?
Seeing him live was on my bucket list.
Then my lovely bride and I saw him in Vegas about 10 years ago.

byron
05-08-2013, 01:18 PM
Rickles sucks !

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 01:19 PM
I dont think Madonna or Janet Jackson, Beyonce is family oriented either. Cant they get like Bob Segar or something?At first I thought you said Bob Saget.

And Madonna and the rest of them didn't open..

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 01:19 PM
Rickles sucks !
You might as well say that Phil sucks B.
I will see you at Steve's. Be prepared!!!

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 01:19 PM
Darn...Justin Bieber is out of the picture :/ /redBeaver fever for Beiber?

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 01:21 PM
Seeing him live was on my bucket list.
Then my lovely bride and I saw him in Vegas about 10 years ago.I'm giving up.

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 01:22 PM
At first I thought you said Bob Saget.

And Madonna and the rest of them didn't open..Their on the half time show on one of the biggest stages in sports

Remember when Bevis and Butthead had the 20 min episode every year for the halftime show cause the half time shows always suck? Someone should do something like that.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 01:22 PM
Beaver fever for Beiber?No no no no no o noosnfonNO.

Did you know he called the Sistine Chapel the "Sixteenth Chapel" ?

byron
05-08-2013, 01:22 PM
You might as well say that Phil sucks B.
I will see you at Steve's. Be prepared!!! haha...I'll just whip out the soy on ya....mh kryptonite!

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 01:23 PM
Their on the half time show on one of the biggest stages in sports

Remember when Bevis and Butthead had the 20 min episode every year for the halftime show cause the half time shows always suck? Someone should do something like that.But this isn't about the half time show...which I agree sucked.

I think Kevin Hart should come out and do comedy...srsly.

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 01:24 PM
But this isn't about the half time show...which I agree sucked.

I think Kevin Hart should come out and do comedy...srsly.Im just speaking generally about the performers the NFL deems family friendly.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 01:26 PM
Im just speaking generally about the performers the NFL deems family friendly.I see what you're saying.

Idk, my theory is that the openings should be more family oriented..even though the half time performances are...not..that.....way.....

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 01:31 PM
haha...I'll just whip out the soy on ya....mh kryptonite!
MH kryptonite!!!!! .........Hahahahahaha!!!!!!

Moke
05-08-2013, 01:47 PM
I want More Head

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 02:33 PM
I want More Head

everyone could always use a lil extra

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 02:34 PM
everyone could always use a lil extra
There is never enough.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 02:35 PM
One at a time guys...you need to learn to wait...

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 02:42 PM
Guys dont wait, we regulate.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 02:52 PM
One at a time guys...you need to learn to wait...

uhh I'm glad you said this and not me, because that would be innapproriate lol

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 02:54 PM
uhh I'm glad you said this and not me, because that would be innapproriate lolThat would be kinda gay if you said that too lol....

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 02:55 PM
That would be kinda gay if you said that too lol....

uhh...no, I meant if I was sitting here waiting...

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 02:57 PM
how is it only weds? =\

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 02:57 PM
uhh...no, I meant if I was sitting here waiting...Oh

lmfao

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 02:57 PM
Do you guys like Adam Kokesh?

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 03:00 PM
Do you guys like Adam Kokesh?

NOPE, but I thank him for his service.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 03:08 PM
NOPE, but I thank him for his service.Did you hear about what he wants to do on Independence Day? http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/05/08/d_c_open_carry_march_adam_kokesh_asks_protesters_t o_carry_loaded_rifles.html


This won't end well...

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 03:10 PM
Did you hear about what he wants to do on Independence Day? http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/05/08/d_c_open_carry_march_adam_kokesh_asks_protesters_t o_carry_loaded_rifles.html


This won't end well...

seems pretty intense for someone who's entire agenda is being opposed to military occupation in iraq....

ugh, he thinks its civil disobedience...it's not civil disobedience, it's just really scary

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 03:14 PM
seems pretty intense for someone who's entire agenda is being opposed to military occupation in iraq....

ugh, he thinks its civil disobedience...it's not civil disobedience, it's just really scaryHa yeah, let's march in D.C. with loaded rifles in a populated area with a buttload of security and police. Nothing will happen!

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 03:26 PM
Ha yeah, let's march in D.C. with loaded rifles in a populated area with a buttload of security and police. Nothing will happen!Nothing will happen. You think these NRA freaks want to give Dems another excuse? Every homicide committed with a gun is news now.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 03:29 PM
Nothing will happen. You think these NRA freaks want to give Dems another excuse? Every homicide committed with a gun is news now.I'm not saying they are going to shoot the place up or anything, but it's not going to end well.

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 03:35 PM
I'm not saying they are going to shoot the place up or anything, but it's not going to end well.Not sure of DC gun laws. Probably really strict. And if theyre anything like NYs, its illegal to bring a firearm into the state/district if its not registered with the state, which is ridiculous. It should be like a driver license.
I think its a good thing. Let congress/white house know who they work for. They seem to forget at times.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 03:36 PM
Nothing will happen. You think these NRA freaks want to give Dems another excuse? Every homicide committed with a gun is news now.

it's not that...im fairly sure nothing will happen. I just can't think of a worse idea for making a point for what they are trying to convey.

I also find it hard to believe that 2500 people are volunteering for felonies on their record. Then again, redneck white trash don't work anyways, so what do they care, right? What's an additional felony? lol (See what I did? Awesome stereotyping? lololoololol)

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 04:09 PM
it's not that...im fairly sure nothing will happen. I just can't think of a worse idea for making a point for what they are trying to convey.

I also find it hard to believe that 2500 people are volunteering for felonies on their record. Then again, redneck white trash don't work anyways, so what do they care, right? What's an additional felony? lol (See what I did? Awesome stereotyping? lololoololol)Homicide rate is much lower in those "redneck" states.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 04:13 PM
Homicide rate is much lower in those "redneck" states.

Yes, because nobody wants to live near those rednecks.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 04:19 PM
Not sure of DC gun laws. Probably really strict. And if theyre anything like NYs, its illegal to bring a firearm into the state/district if its not registered with the state, which is ridiculous. It should be like a driver license. I think its a good thing. Let congress/white house know who they work for. They seem to forget at times.It's just bad judgement.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 04:25 PM
I'm freaking tired, and i miss REAL football!!!

I also miss talking about football....talking with you guys about other stuff SUCKS!!! =P

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 05:06 PM
Yes, because nobody wants to live near those rednecks.Texas and Fl are some of the most populated states. You went to school in friggin Georgia. lol You are the definition of hypocrisy my friend.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 05:13 PM
Texas and Fl are some of the most populated states. You went to school in friggin Georgia. lol You are the definition of hypocrisy my friend.

I went to COLLEGE in Georgia....I'm not FROM Georgia, I don't act southern, I have literally no southern ideals, and simply went there for a business education and to bang sluts.

dezzzR
05-08-2013, 05:16 PM
It's just bad judgement.So is trying to limit the rights of the people.

Moke
05-08-2013, 05:18 PM
If I'm taking a lady out to dinner and spending about 2 days worth of my money, I expect to enter her clam bar right after.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 05:25 PM
If I'm taking a lady out to dinner and spending about 2 days worth of my money, I expect to enter her clam bar right after.

that sounds like a ******ed amount of money regardless of your wage, lol

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 05:28 PM
So is trying to limit the rights of the people.Okay, but you don't counter bad judgement with MORE bad judgement lol.

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 05:42 PM
Okay, but you don't counter bad judgement with MORE bad judgement lol.
I have no love of guns. I've never owned one and probably never will.
Having said that the problems with violence in this country are not caused by the availability of guns. Its caused by the degradation of our society and the crappy job today's parents are doing.

A short but concise Morehead rant.

And BTW, southern poeple are some of the finest, most selfless folks on earth. Just because there are a few nutjobs doesn't change that.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 05:44 PM
I have no love of guns. I've never owned one and probably never will.Having said that the problems with violence in this country are not caused by the availability of guns. Its caused by the degradation of our society and the crappy job today's parents are doing.A short but concise Morehead rant.I get tha and I agree! But to "one up" the government by telling people to walk the streets with loaded rifles is just going to make things worse.

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 05:49 PM
I get tha and I agree! But to "one up" the government by telling people to walk the streets with loaded rifles is just going to make things worse.
Probably not going to help.
But you have to understand the culture here. We are northeasterners and we don't have the same culture. Guns are part of their lives since they are born. They are almost exclusively responsible gun owners and don't want the government treading on it.
And trust me, there are many in government who would vote tomorrow to ban all guns in this country. We can argue as to whether or not thats a good or bad thing, but it IS true.

Essentially, this focus on guns after Newtown is missing the real point. And it WILL cause some to overreact.

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 06:01 PM
Probably not going to help.But you have to understand the culture here. We are northeasterners and we don't have the same culture. Guns are part of their lives since they are born. They are almost exclusively responsible gun owners and don't want the government treading on it.And trust me, there are many in government who would vote tomorrow to ban all guns in this country. We can argue as to whether or not thats a good or bad thing, but it IS true.Essentially, this focus on guns after Newtown is missing the real point. And it WILL cause some to overreact.Here is my thing. I don't think guns should be illegal. Marijuanna is illegal and it's everywhere lol. However I'm a little vexed as to why people need 449299202002 guns in their homes.

Morehead State
05-08-2013, 06:49 PM
Here is my thing. I don't think guns should be illegal. Marijuanna is illegal and it's everywhere lol. However I'm a little vexed as to why people need 449299202002 guns in their homes.
It doesn't matter if you or anyone else understands it.
The great thing about a constitutional right, is that you don't have to explain to anyone why you are exercising it.

Moke
05-08-2013, 06:53 PM
that sounds like a ******ed amount of money regardless of your wage, lol

Eh, you've never spent $100 for 2 people?

My wage is like $14 an hour so I guess 1 day* was more accurate.

After taxes, working 8 hours.. that's around that.

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 08:15 PM
Eh, you've never spent $100 for 2 people?

My wage is like $14 an hour so I guess 1 day* was more accurate.

After taxes, working 8 hours.. that's around that.

ok, I take it back....$100 is still kinda pricey for any kind of food lol

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 08:23 PM
It doesn't matter if you or anyone else understands it.
The great thing about a constitutional right, is that you don't have to explain to anyone why you are exercising it.

I'm tired of the gun control debate.....not because I personally have anything against guns, but because I don't understand what the big ****ing deal is.

Why would anyone argue that a tougher process in obtaining one is a bad thing? Your right, fine? But if you want it, prove it....

I'm a smoker. When i started smoking, a pack was $4, and has increased multiple times. over $10 in PK. They tax the **** out of it. The government says "have whatever you want. We don't WANT you to smoke because it's not healthy, but if you REALLY want to smoke, then prove it and shell out the money for these ridiculous ****ing things...."

Keep your guns...who ****ing cares? Not me

If someone has nothing to hide on background checks, then they have nothing to worry about. If you **** up, sorry, but you lost your right to own a weapon.

During the filibuster, this mofo was sitting there saying "Having tougher background checks won't matter. Criminals don't go through background checks to get guns, because they steal them."
SO let me get this straight ...WE HAVE LAWS that say stealing anything is obviously illegal, but criminals dont obey those laws obviously...so should we just not have those laws either???

These are ELECTED OFFICAILS....people PAID BY US to make and amend laws, and they sit there saying "Ehh what the point of laws? People are going to just break them anyway, this is stupid!"

Why does nobody talk about that??

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 08:26 PM
Here is my thing. I don't think guns should be illegal. Marijuanna is illegal and it's everywhere lol. However I'm a little vexed as to why people need 449299202002 guns in their homes.

Just gonna throw this out there......

People wouldn't need guns at all if everyone just smoked some weed lol

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ABONG!!?!?!!

byron
05-08-2013, 08:46 PM
Here is my thing. I don't think guns should be illegal. Marijuanna is illegal and it's everywhere lol. However I'm a little vexed as to why people need 449299202002 guns in their homes. they are gun collectors Rudy they love the differences from one gun maker to the next they just collect the same as people collect cars or antiques....I have one gun I used to hunt when I was younger.. its a common thing up here to hunt....Idk.. I'd bet there is a gun in every household on my street and beyond.. I know several a gun collectors.... we are not shooting at each other in fact I don't remember the last time anyone was shot up here.....it just doesn't happen very often....marching on DC with guns seems a bit stupid and maybe even a bit crazy...jmo....guns and crazy don't mix good

byron
05-08-2013, 08:49 PM
Just gonna throw this out there......

People wouldn't need guns at all if everyone just smoked some weed lol

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ABONG!!?!?!! ha I guess it a mind set for the most guns up here are owned for hunting more so than protection....Idk

Moke
05-08-2013, 08:54 PM
ok, I take it back....$100 is still kinda pricey for any kind of food lol

That's what I'm saying... I better be getting in her clam bar for that haha

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 08:57 PM
ha I guess it a mind set for the most guns up here are owned for hunting more so than protection....Idk

in most of NY if you put "Protection" as a reason to get a pistol, there's a 99% chance you wont, and wont ever pass your background check.

byron
05-08-2013, 09:00 PM
I'm tired of the gun control debate.....not because I personally have anything against guns, but because I don't understand what the big ****ing deal is.

Why would anyone argue that a tougher process in obtaining one is a bad thing? Your right, fine? But if you want it, prove it....

I'm a smoker. When i started smoking, a pack was $4, and has increased multiple times. over $10 in PK. They tax the **** out of it. The government says "have whatever you want. We don't WANT you to smoke because it's not healthy, but if you REALLY want to smoke, then prove it and shell out the money for these ridiculous ****ing things...."

Keep your guns...who ****ing cares? Not me

If someone has nothing to hide on background checks, then they have nothing to worry about. If you **** up, sorry, but you lost your right to own a weapon.

During the filibuster, this mofo was sitting there saying "Having tougher background checks won't matter. Criminals don't go through background checks to get guns, because they steal them."
SO let me get this straight ...WE HAVE LAWS that say stealing anything is obviously illegal, but criminals dont obey those laws obviously...so should we just not have those laws either???

These are ELECTED OFFICAILS....people PAID BY US to make and amend laws, and they sit there saying "Ehh what the point of laws? People are going to just break them anyway, this is stupid!"

Why does nobody talk about that?? hell we don't even lock our house here....there is an old saying a lock will only keep an honest man out... a crock will break the ****ing window then I got to fix the damn thing ...now where the law come in of coarse is when and if they catch the crock he is rightfully punished.....I hear what you are saying JP... tough background checks for sure....

byron
05-08-2013, 09:11 PM
in most of NY if you put "Protection" as a reason to get a pistol, there's a 99% chance you wont, and wont ever pass your background check. well its a tough situation different parts of the country have different problems with guns.....up here you'll here more about poaching /hunting out of season rather than people getting shot .....idk I'm not sure how I would react if I was told to turn in my gun in then again I'm not real worried about that happening hell I've had it for years I doubt its even registered didn't have all these laws back then ...there must be mils of guns out there like that

Rudyy
05-08-2013, 09:37 PM
they are gun collectors Rudy they love the differences from one gun maker to the next they just collect the same as people collect cars or antiques....I have one gun I used to hunt when I was younger.. its a common thing up here to hunt....Idk.. I'd bet there is a gun in every household on my street and beyond.. I know several a gun collectors.... we are not shooting at each other in fact I don't remember the last time anyone was shot up here.....it just doesn't happen very often....marching on DC with guns seems a bit stupid and maybe even a bit crazy...jmo....guns and crazy don't mix goodI see. Since you're awesome and everything, I wouldn't suspect you wouldn't need them for anything other than antiques. But 70 guns for "protection"? Uh....k.

byron
05-08-2013, 10:00 PM
I see. Since you're awesome and everything, I wouldn't suspect you wouldn't need them for anything other than antiques. But 70 guns for "protection"? Uh....k. yeah that one gun I have probably won't even shoot... any bullets I have are years old and I'd have to look for them... I got the dogs to warn me if someone try's to come in... that should give me time to get under the bed

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 10:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0SgwWmF9w

M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0SgwWmF9w)use - Madness

I have this theory that if the entire song was like the last 2 minutes+ (check it at 3min mark to see what i mean), that this song would be honestly historic....and we'd talk about it in 30 years as one of the greatest rock song ever.....but despite my love for it, they kind of ruined it with a digital guitar and synth beginning. It's kinda sad for me to think about lol

JPizzack
05-08-2013, 10:59 PM
Holy ****, Morehead, the red sux should start this webster guy every game. That was truly an impressive performance!

lmao 1.2 IP, 8 ER. legitttttt

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 10:23 AM
I'm tired of the gun control debate.....not because I personally have anything against guns, but because I don't understand what the big ****ing deal is.

Why would anyone argue that a tougher process in obtaining one is a bad thing? Your right, fine? But if you want it, prove it....

I'm a smoker. When i started smoking, a pack was $4, and has increased multiple times. over $10 in PK. They tax the **** out of it. The government says "have whatever you want. We don't WANT you to smoke because it's not healthy, but if you REALLY want to smoke, then prove it and shell out the money for these ridiculous ****ing things...."

Keep your guns...who ****ing cares? Not me

If someone has nothing to hide on background checks, then they have nothing to worry about. If you **** up, sorry, but you lost your right to own a weapon.

During the filibuster, this mofo was sitting there saying "Having tougher background checks won't matter. Criminals don't go through background checks to get guns, because they steal them."
SO let me get this straight ...WE HAVE LAWS that say stealing anything is obviously illegal, but criminals dont obey those laws obviously...so should we just not have those laws either???

These are ELECTED OFFICAILS....people PAID BY US to make and amend laws, and they sit there saying "Ehh what the point of laws? People are going to just break them anyway, this is stupid!"

Why does nobody talk about that??The problem is it wont stop with the back round checks. Dems are already trying to write bills banning certain firearms. The other problem is they dont know what the hell they are talking about. They dont know the difference between a rifle and a shotgun, like Biden. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4csoQLvGY. Its scary. Telling people to put two rounds through doors?? You got Cuomo passing a law that only allows 7 round mags, THEY DONT MAKE THEM. Why ban the AR when most gun related homicides are committed with illegal handguns? Because people are having a knee jerk reaction to Sandy Hook and the ARs looks high tech,are black and scary. Why arent they going after M14, semi auto .22?? Its all politics, and playing politics with any right is treading on the people in my opinion.

And theres very, very strict laws out there already pizz as we saw with Plax. Why dont they enforce the laws already on the books? Please tell me how having the "new" back round check would have prevented Sandy Hook. I have yet to get a straight answer from anyone who thinks that.

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 10:25 AM
in most of NY if you put "Protection" as a reason to get a pistol, there's a 99% chance you wont, and wont ever pass your background check.And thats a good thing?? Thats the very ****ing reason we were given the 2nd amendment. Its *** backwards

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 10:35 AM
The problem is it wont stop with the back round checks. Dems are already trying to write bills banning certain firearms. The other problem is they dont know what the hell they are talking about. They dont know the difference between a rifle and a shotgun, like Biden. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4csoQLvGY. Its scary. Telling people to put two rounds through doors?? You got Cuomo passing a law that only allows 7 round mags, THEY DONT MAKE THEM. Why ban the AR when most gun related homicides are committed with illegal handguns? Because people are having a knee jerk reaction to Sandy Hook and the ARs looks high tech,are black and scary. Why arent they going after M14, semi auto .22?? Its all politics, and playing politics with any right is treading on the people in my opinion.

And theres very, very strict laws out there already pizz as we saw with Plax. Why dont they enforce the laws already on the books? Please tell me how having the "new" back round check would have prevented Sandy Hook. I have yet to get a straight answer from anyone who thinks that.

You are basically supporting my point that everyone is like "what's the point?!"

The more difficult the better....there's literally nothing wrong with that. It should have done a long long time ago. Sandy Hook was merely a catalyst.

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 10:36 AM
You are basically supporting my point that everyone is like "what's the point?!"

The more difficult the better....there's literally nothing wrong with that. It should have done a long long time ago. Sandy Hook was merely a catalyst.Youre not answering my question, in what way would that new law have prevented Sandy?

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 10:36 AM
And thats a good thing?? Thats the very ****ing reason we were given the 2nd amendment. Its *** backwards

Doesn't matter, bro...you have the right to it....so ****ing prove it and jump through the hoops. Nobody is stopping you.

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 10:40 AM
Youre not answering my question, in what way would that new law have prevented Sandy?

Well I would have no idea, personally. Perhaps if the kid didn't have such easy access to weapons? Perhaps if someone knew he has mental health issues, his parents background checks would have prevented it? How would I know?

People are way too caught up in their own interpretation of the 2nd ammendment, and it's almost laughable.
And how guns are obtained illegally is such a moot point....because bottom line is, if there werent so ****ing many of them owned by citizens, they wouldnt end up in the wrong hands to begin with.

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 10:43 AM
Doesn't matter, bro...you have the right to it....so ****ing prove it and jump through the hoops. Nobody is stopping you.Well if it doesnt matter why are libs screaming about back round checks lmao?

Check and Mate.

If these fake politicians want to solve the problem, go after illegal firearms.

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 10:47 AM
Well if it doesnt matter why are libs screaming about back round checks lmao?

Check and Mate.

If these fake politicians want to solve the problem, go after illegal firearms.

lmao.....yes....maybe every will just turn them in, right?

I said the 2nd amendment arguement doesnt matter....because i dont care, you can keep your guns, but in doing so there should be zero problem making it more difficult to obtain. the dems are saying fine, keep your guns....but people who want to buy them, if anything comes up on your background check, sorry, youre blacklisted, and if you **** up at any point, youve surrendered your right.

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 10:48 AM
Well I would have no idea, personally. Perhaps if the kid didn't have such easy access to weapons? Perhaps if someone knew he has mental health issues, his parents background checks would have prevented it? How would I know?

People are way too caught up in their own interpretation of the 2nd ammendment, and it's almost laughable.
And how guns are obtained illegally is such a moot point....because bottom line is, if there werent so ****ing many of them owned by citizens, they wouldnt end up in the wrong hands to begin with.And there you have it....Its all knee jerk reaction.

Its one of the most simple amendments to understand. We have the right to bear arms and form a well regulated militia(peoples army).

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 10:51 AM
lmao.....yes....maybe every will just turn them in, right?

I said the 2nd amendment arguement doesnt matter....because i dont care, you can keep your guns, but in doing so there should be zero problem making it more difficult to obtain. the dems are saying fine, keep your guns....but people who want to buy them, if anything comes up on your background check, sorry, youre blacklisted, and if you **** up at any point, youve surrendered your right.No theyre certainly not. Like I said, Many like Feinstein are trying to write bills banning certain weapons.

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 10:53 AM
lmao.....yes....maybe every will just turn them in, right?

I said the 2nd amendment arguement doesnt matter....because i dont care, you can keep your guns, but in doing so there should be zero problem making it more difficult to obtain. the dems are saying fine, keep your guns....but people who want to buy them, if anything comes up on your background check, sorry, youre blacklisted, and if you **** up at any point, youve surrendered your right.Thats not what Im saying, when police catch someone with an illegal fire arm, throw the book at him. just like plax.

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 10:54 AM
And there you have it....Its all knee jerk reaction. You make it sound as if this was the only shooting ever. It's not, it's just arguably the worst. This current push just shows that it should have been changed a long time ago.

Its one of the most simple amendments to understand. We have the right to bear arms and form a well regulated militia(peoples army)
So many people would likely die as a result of someone actually trying to form a militia. They would be viewed as extremists, and likely BE extremist (like that guy on the vides online that was seemingly level headed, and then he has this random outburst and says that "If Obama takes away our guns, I'll start shooting!".....yea, sure...**** it...all people should own weapons!!!

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(it wont let me post without putting something underneath the quote I guess)

Morehead State
05-09-2013, 10:54 AM
Holy ****, Morehead, the red sux should start this webster guy every game. That was truly an impressive performance!

lmao 1.2 IP, 8 ER. legitttttt
He learned the hard way that if you throw a 96 MPH fastball over the middle in the minors, you get people out. When you do it to major league hitters you get shelled.

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 10:55 AM
Thats not what Im saying, when police catch someone with an illegal fire arm, throw the book at him. just like plax.

wtf?? You think they just give them the guns back? let them walk?? wtf are you talking about??

Morehead State
05-09-2013, 10:55 AM
lmao.....yes....maybe every will just turn them in, right?

I said the 2nd amendment arguement doesnt matter....because i dont care, you can keep your guns, but in doing so there should be zero problem making it more difficult to obtain. the dems are saying fine, keep your guns....but people who want to buy them, if anything comes up on your background check, sorry, youre blacklisted, and if you **** up at any point, youve surrendered your right.
What do you want to check with these background checks?

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 10:56 AM
No theyre certainly not. Like I said, Many like Feinstein are trying to write bills banning certain weapons.

doesn't bother me either, sorry bud. the less the better.

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 10:59 AM
He learned the hard way that if you throw a 96 MPH fastball over the middle in the minors, you get people out. When you do it to major league hitters you get shelled.

yea, dicey

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 11:02 AM
What do you want to check with these background checks?

idk, I'll leave it to the lawmakers. For all I care, they could say "if you have ever been pulled over by a police officer before, you can't get a permit" and i'd be ok with that, because that would prevent more guns from circulating. I honestly don't care, because I have no intentions of ever trying to obtain one. And if I did, it'd be just because I like to OWN ****....like the $100 retro Air Jordans I bought last night for no reason =\

JPizzack
05-09-2013, 11:06 AM
Ok, I'm done with these talks for today. So feel free to change the subject. I will respond with pictures of cats (and i ****ing hate cats) should you try to continue this. =P

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 11:13 AM
And there you have it....Its all knee jerk reaction. You make it sound as if this was the only shooting ever. It's not, it's just arguably the worst. This current push just shows that it should have been changed a long time ago.

Its one of the most simple amendments to understand. We have the right to bear arms and form a well regulated militia(peoples army)
So many people would likely die as a result of someone actually trying to form a militia. They would be viewed as extremists, and likely BE extremist (like that guy on the vides online that was seemingly level headed, and then he has this random outburst and says that "If Obama takes away our guns, I'll start shooting!".....yea, sure...**** it...all people should own weapons!!!
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Well why is this a problem now? Why not after Colombine, Virginia Tech, Aurora ? Because some sick ******* shot toddlers. Its horrible, but you cant let one ******* be the reason the gov tramples on your rights. And now the Dems are playing this tragedy like a violine. If you cant see that...well I dont know what to tell you.

Extremists, rebels, The colonists who fought the British were called the exact same thing.
If the guy wants to think Obama is a tyrant, thats his right. And honestly when you have a president who says "Unfortunately, you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems; some of these same voices also doing their best to gum up the works. They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices."

Hes basically saying bend over and take it.

dezzzR
05-09-2013, 11:14 AM
Ok, I'm done with these talks for today. So feel free to change the subject. I will respond with pictures of cats (and i ****ing hate cats) should you try to continue this. =PDid you enjoy the rangers game as much as i did????:D

byron
05-09-2013, 11:17 AM
The problem is it wont stop with the back round checks. Dems are already trying to write bills banning certain firearms. The other problem is they dont know what the hell they are talking about. They dont know the difference between a rifle and a shotgun, like Biden. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4csoQLvGY. Its scary. Telling people to put two rounds through doors?? You got Cuomo passing a law that only allows 7 round mags, THEY DONT MAKE THEM. Why ban the AR when most gun related homicides are committed with illegal handguns? Because people are having a knee jerk reaction to Sandy Hook and the ARs looks high tech,are black and scary. Why arent they going after M14, semi auto .22?? Its all politics, and playing politics with any right is treading on the people in my opinion.

And theres very, very strict laws out there already pizz as we saw with Plax. Why dont they enforce the laws already on the books? Please tell me how having the "new" back round check would have prevented Sandy Hook. I have yet to get a straight answer from anyone who thinks that. now I'm just going to throw this out there dezz.... you got a mentally ill person living in your house... some who could be dangerous to themselves of others is it wise to have guns around and or should it be regulated.....he killed his mother took the guns you know the rest of the story....just saying