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dezzzR
10-04-2013, 03:35 PM
We toast, I put Vick in instead of Kaepernick...

Unless Jonny Beason can play CB.
Hope it blows up in your face.

Moke
10-04-2013, 03:37 PM
Hope it blows up in your face.

I expect him to play better than Kaep, regardless of who wins. I'm not rooting for him though because it's a free league. I just expect him to do better.

dezzzR
10-04-2013, 03:44 PM
I expect him to play better than Kaep, regardless of who wins. I'm not rooting for him though because it's a free league. I just expect him to do better.
http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/tumblr_m5wk3lVspA1rp68cjo1_r2_400.gif

Moke
10-04-2013, 03:54 PM
I SUCK, YOPU'RE RIGHT!

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Hello

JPizzack
10-04-2013, 04:23 PM
Hello

OH HI

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 04:35 PM
Oh and a very special hello to you

Moke
10-04-2013, 04:35 PM
For a special person amirite?

JPizzack
10-04-2013, 04:37 PM
For a special person amirite?

she was talking to me, JERK!!

Moke
10-04-2013, 04:37 PM
she was talking to me, JERK!!

That's who I was talking about :D

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 04:42 PM
How are the both of you? What's been going on? Work, women, family.....

Moke
10-04-2013, 04:45 PM
Banging work out little by little, banging a ton of chicks, no family.

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 04:49 PM
Banging work out little by little, banging a ton of chicks, no family.
Really?

Love your sig

Moke
10-04-2013, 04:52 PM
Really?

Love your sig


Haha, I'm totally kidding. I'm chillen. Good luck this week, did well on my 2 quizzes without studying... got my iphone, and also got offered another job somewhere but I'm exploring.

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 05:07 PM
Haha, I'm totally kidding. I'm chillen. Good luck this week, did well on my 2 quizzes without studying... got my iphone, and also got offered another job somewhere but I'm exploring.
What?....Watch out now, here comes Moke...Congrats!

As for Pizz........*crickets*

Moke
10-04-2013, 05:09 PM
How about you Laurah?

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 05:32 PM
I am very good.....on vacation from work right now....bored but loving it at the same time....my family is insane as always, and as far as men go....well, you know how you all are...hopeless...lol....:)

Moke
10-04-2013, 05:34 PM
I am very good.....on vacation from work right now....bored but loving it at the same time....my family is insane as always, and as far as men go....well, you know how you all are...hopeless...lol....:)

We men say the same for women

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 05:38 PM
Oh, and I finally decided on a high school for my daughter.....St. Anthony's Academy.....went to an open house yesterday, and it's absolutely perfect! Affordable too..so psyched about it....YAY!!!!!

Moke
10-04-2013, 05:39 PM
Sounds expensive Laurah.

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 05:45 PM
OMG....Just noticed my post count is 1005....have I been here that long? LOL....time flies in the presence of good company.

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 05:47 PM
Sounds expensive Laurah.I did alot of research, and compared to other private schools in my area, this one is a steal.

Moke
10-04-2013, 05:49 PM
I did alot of research, and compared to other private schools in my area, this one is a steal.

Gotcha, as long as she's getting a great education

JPizzack
10-04-2013, 05:52 PM
What?....Watch out now, here comes Moke...Congrats!

As for Pizz........*crickets*

Sorry...got really crazy at work. I'll catch up later.

Laurah1275
10-04-2013, 05:57 PM
Gotcha, as long as she's getting a great educationHow is your situation with your dad?

Rudyy
10-04-2013, 06:29 PM
Oh, and I finally decided on a high school for my daughter.....St. Anthony's Academy.....went to an open house yesterday, and it's absolutely perfect! Affordable too..so psyched about it....YAY!!!!!

Very nice

Moke
10-06-2013, 11:34 PM
lol did you guys at least have fun? I mean...you really expected them to win that right?

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 09:30 AM
lol did you guys at least have fun? I mean...you really expected them to win that right?

We had a good time despite that...It's not just about the game for us when we go to THEE Game...it's just great to see each other.

But yes.....going into the half, I expected us to be in position to win that game. It made it even more painful than the previous 3. The Dallas I thought we looked in good shape....but that was week 1...a week 1 loss isn't devastating...but yea....it was really painful.

Moke
10-07-2013, 09:43 AM
We had a good time despite that...It's not just about the game for us when we go to THEE Game...it's just great to see each other.

But yes.....going into the half, I expected us to be in position to win that game. It made it even more painful than the previous 3. The Dallas I thought we looked in good shape....but that was week 1...a week 1 loss isn't devastating...but yea....it was really painful.

I feel you

Morehead State
10-07-2013, 10:02 AM
I feel you
Ask Pizz where he was when the game ended...

Poor guy.....The victim of Hooligans!!!

Moke
10-07-2013, 10:04 AM
Where were you when the game ended, JP?

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 10:05 AM
Where were you when the game ended, JP?

At the gates. I got tossed. =\

Moke
10-07-2013, 10:09 AM
At the gates. I got tossed. =\

For fighting someone? Why am I not surprised?

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 10:14 AM
For fighting someone? Why am I not surprised?

Well, no....I didn't really do anything. My understanding was they had me leave for my own protection lol...which kinda makes sense.

Basically after that first awful pick in the mid-4th, I went to grab a drink. As I turn around to walk to the bathroom, all these ppl are pouring out of the tunnels into the halls. And this group of 4 obnoxiously drunk kids are right in front of me as i turn around, and they completely knocked me over, like...no regard for where they were walking, i was just simply "in their way" i guess. So I jumped up and threw an elbow into the front kid, and got in his face. And 2 ushers and a security guard dragged me away. I argued with them like..."Why am I being kicked out?! I didn't do anything but get up and stand my ground" and this one guy was basically like "Listen....4 of them, 1 of you...not only is it just easier to take you out of the situation instead of 4 guys, but they probably would have just followed you around should anything have happened..."

So, I guess it makes sense...but, it still kinda sucked...

Moke
10-07-2013, 10:19 AM
That's just stupid though. They have power so why couldn't they just take the 4 kids away?


Idiotic.

Morehead State
10-07-2013, 10:24 AM
Well, no....I didn't really do anything. My understanding was they had me leave for my own protection lol...which kinda makes sense.

Basically after that first awful pick in the mid-4th, I went to grab a drink. As I turn around to walk to the bathroom, all these ppl are pouring out of the tunnels into the halls. And this group of 4 obnoxiously drunk kids are right in front of me as i turn around, and they completely knocked me over, like...no regard for where they were walking, i was just simply "in their way" i guess. So I jumped up and threw an elbow into the front kid, and got in his face. And 2 ushers and a security guard dragged me away. I argued with them like..."Why am I being kicked out?! I didn't do anything but get up and stand my ground" and this one guy was basically like "Listen....4 of them, 1 of you...not only is it just easier to take you out of the situation instead of 4 guys, but they probably would have just followed you around should anything have happened..."

So, I guess it makes sense...but, it still kinda sucked...
Now the real story........

A group of nuns walked past Pizz and they looked at him funny, so he started throwing elbows.

Hahahahaha!!!!

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 10:27 AM
Now the real story........

A group of nuns walked past Pizz and they looked at him funny, so he started throwing elbows.

Hahahahaha!!!!

lmao...

that'd be embarassing.

hey listen...it coulda been a lot worse. I coulda came back to the tailgate bloody and bruised lol. Can't lie, I've been known to throw myself into violent situations with no backup...You don't know what kind of man you are till you have the **** kicked out of you at least once lol

Moke
10-07-2013, 10:30 AM
In this case, you're not a man am i right?

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 10:31 AM
In this case, you're not a man am i right?

Wanna get your *** kicked and find out??

Morehead State
10-07-2013, 10:33 AM
lmao...

that'd be embarassing.

hey listen...it coulda been a lot worse. I coulda came back to the tailgate bloody and bruised lol. Can't lie, I've been known to throw myself into violent situations with no backup...You don't know what kind of man you are till you have the **** kicked out of you at least once lol
Unfortunately....it was Eli who should have been escorted out of the stadium.

Moke
10-07-2013, 10:34 AM
Wanna get your *** kicked and find out??

Well, if I want to find out the man I am...I guess I'll have to opt in.

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 10:36 AM
Unfortunately....it was Eli who should have been escorted out of the stadium.

lol...

DavenIII
10-07-2013, 10:46 AM
JPizz was there to buy some water or throw some elbows...they were all out of water so he threw some indiscriminate elbows at some unsuspecting giants fans.

tell you the truth it's a brilliant plan...they never expected elbows from another giants fan.

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 10:49 AM
JPizz was there to buy some water or throw some elbows...they were all out of water so he threw some indiscriminate elbows at some unsuspecting giants fans.

tell you the truth it's a brilliant plan...they never expected elbows from another giants fan.

http://thesportstoilet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/artest-throw-dem-bows.jpg

Morehead State
10-07-2013, 12:12 PM
http://thesportstoilet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/artest-throw-dem-bows.jpg
"Pizzey World Peace"!!!!!!!

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 12:19 PM
"Pizzey World Peace"!!!!!!!

lol....

Moke
10-07-2013, 12:47 PM
On a mission to get hired over this other intern, which will happen since he never does anything and takes off all the time.

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 12:52 PM
On a mission to get hired over this other intern, which will happen since he never does anything and takes off all the time.

good luck dood

Moke
10-07-2013, 12:53 PM
good luck dood

Thanks, he's Asian and my boss told me that the President likes me.

Morehead State
10-07-2013, 01:46 PM
On a mission to get hired over this other intern, which will happen since he never does anything and takes off all the time.
You mean to do things like post on a football MB?


I crack myself up!

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 01:53 PM
You mean to do things like post on a football MB?


I crack myself up!

I think we're all pretty guilty of that...

I can post and still be extremely productive. But I'ma bit of a multitasker extraordinaire!

dezzzR
10-07-2013, 02:31 PM
Fat mike going off on nicks

Moke
10-07-2013, 02:32 PM
You mean to do things like post on a football MB?


I crack myself up!

Ah, I do work at a computer AND multitask. I guess some old-timers can't do that.

I CRACK MYSELF UP!

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 02:37 PM
Fat mike going off on nicks

like what?

Moke
10-07-2013, 02:40 PM
Saying he's lazy, etc.

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 02:43 PM
Saying he's lazy, etc.

I must have missed that part of the game...lol

Morehead State
10-07-2013, 02:43 PM
Ah, I do work at a computer AND multitask. I guess some old-timers can't do that.

I CRACK MYSELF UP!
No sense of humor Moke.......

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 02:44 PM
What's been driving me crazy again, is balls sailing right thru the arms and hands of our WRs....argh..

Moke
10-07-2013, 02:45 PM
No sense of humor Moke.......

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

dezzzR
10-07-2013, 02:49 PM
like what?

wasnt finishing routes. jogging back to the huddle....

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 02:50 PM
wasnt finishing routes. jogging back to the huddle....

people complain about the 1 guy who actually showed up on offense.....gotta love it....

dezzzR
10-07-2013, 03:02 PM
people complain about the 1 guy who actually showed up on offense.....gotta love it....

He didnt mention Randle :)

Moke
10-07-2013, 03:04 PM
Randle dropped 2 at the beginning but made up for it.

dezzzR
10-07-2013, 03:06 PM
Randle dropped 2 at the beginning but made up for it.Yea hes gotta catch those....

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 03:11 PM
He didnt mention Randle :)

Randle who whiffs more targets than catches? lol

dezzzR
10-07-2013, 03:12 PM
Randle who whiffs more targets than catches? lol
Nicks leads the team in drops I believe.

dezzzR
10-07-2013, 03:13 PM
I thought it was funny on that bomb to Nicks early in the game. JJ had his manbeat too and you can tell he was thinking of jumping for it too, but saw nicks was there.

JPizzack
10-07-2013, 03:15 PM
Some of those drops sucked yesterday....some there was a lot of contact...but, the refs werent exactly there to help us.

Moke
10-07-2013, 03:15 PM
Yea hes gotta catch those....

I didn't mean it as an excuse, at least 1 of them he should have.

Morehead State
10-07-2013, 05:07 PM
Randle who whiffs more targets than catches? lol
Randle was beating his guy all day. Eli could have had 300 yards to Randle alone. That deep out where Eli threw back into coverage was an easy TD with a decent throw. He had his guy beat by 2 steps.

gumby74
10-07-2013, 05:56 PM
Randle was beating his guy all day. Eli could have had 300 yards to Randle alone. That deep out where Eli threw back into coverage was an easy TD with a decent throw. He had his guy beat by 2 steps.

Being that it was the first time I've seen Eli play live and finally being able to see the entire field, I noticed that his WRs DO get open. He just flat out misses them.

JPizzack
10-08-2013, 09:51 AM
Randle was beating his guy all day. Eli could have had 300 yards to Randle alone. That deep out where Eli threw back into coverage was an easy TD with a decent throw. He had his guy beat by 2 steps.

maybe there's a trust issue there....idk man.
I agree, there were a TON of missed opportunities...

DavenIII
10-08-2013, 10:01 AM
Being that it was the first time I've seen Eli play live and finally being able to see the entire field, I noticed that his WRs DO get open. He just flat out misses them.

that's not always the case but it was this weekend, up until this week I think a lot of it was him throwing to the spot the WR's were supposed to be but having to throw it to that spot to early and then the WR's would either make the wrong read option or get held up and int's would happen...that I don't really blame eli for...he has to throw it to the spot early cause he's about to be hit...he can't see the future...WR's make wrong reads more often then him in my opinion.

that said last Sunday it looked to me like he was getting more time then any other game this season and some of those int's were just terrible thrown and forced.

Rudyy
10-08-2013, 10:45 AM
Hi Daven!

DavenIII
10-08-2013, 11:06 AM
Hi Daven!

Hello Rudy!

JPizzack
10-08-2013, 11:20 AM
jeez...with the way I feel today, You'd think I've never slept before....I'm dyin' here!!

Moke
10-08-2013, 11:28 AM
Yeehaw! Loving the Rangers improved offense.

dezzzR
10-08-2013, 11:37 AM
Yeehaw! Loving the Rangers improved offense.

Hope were saying the same thing in June.

dezzzR
10-08-2013, 12:22 PM
Anyone know how much longer Andre Browns out?

JPizzack
10-08-2013, 12:29 PM
Anyone know how much longer Andre Browns out?

he's eligible after the bye, week 10

dezzzR
10-08-2013, 12:47 PM
terrific.

Rudyy
10-08-2013, 12:56 PM
The new Pro-Bowl uni's are so ugly. Look like college uniforms.

dezzzR
10-08-2013, 01:17 PM
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1381746_10151786677771263_2089928476_n.jpg

dezzzR
10-08-2013, 01:17 PM
ugliest uniforms iv ever seen.
They look like theyre staring at eachother thinking "wtf are you wearing"

JPizzack
10-08-2013, 01:56 PM
I dont think they are that bad....

there are a ton of NFL teams with some ugly *** uniforms. Our away jerseys are probably worse than some of the stuff that came out 30 years ago. attrocious.

I'd love an overhaul.

dezzzR
10-08-2013, 03:40 PM
Wilsons out Thursday. Do you guys think Wilsons really injured? He was trying to come back on the field Sunday but a doctor or someone wouldnt let him out of the tunnel. He also went for a second opinion.

JPizzack
10-08-2013, 03:49 PM
Wilsons out Thursday. Do you guys think Wilsons really injured? He was trying to come back on the field Sunday but a doctor or someone wouldnt let him out of the tunnel. He also went for a second opinion.

yea. i mean, i dont think it's life threatening lol....but cmon, it's a neck injury....

gumby74
10-08-2013, 04:36 PM
I'm really tired and it's only tuesday.

JPizzack
10-08-2013, 04:47 PM
I'm really tired and it's only tuesday.

I ERRRRD THAT!!!

Moke
10-08-2013, 10:34 PM
At least it's almost HUMP DAY!

gumby74
10-08-2013, 11:30 PM
At least it's almost HUMP DAY!

Yeah Wednesdays are great. I think Tuesdays and Thursdays are the worst. People say Monday, but I think I'm still in shock at that point - kind of like when you throw a tropical fish in cold water. But on Tuesday that's when it sinks in. Thursday is just a tease since the next day is Friday. Ok. I'm going to bed

Moke
10-08-2013, 11:33 PM
hhahahha going to watch this ranger game in a bit and then go to bed.

gumby74
10-08-2013, 11:33 PM
that's not always the case but it was this weekend, up until this week I think a lot of it was him throwing to the spot the WR's were supposed to be but having to throw it to that spot to early and then the WR's would either make the wrong read option or get held up and int's would happen...that I don't really blame eli for...he has to throw it to the spot early cause he's about to be hit...he can't see the future...WR's make wrong reads more often then him in my opinion.

that said last Sunday it looked to me like he was getting more time then any other game this season and some of those int's were just terrible thrown and forced.

Eli made me lose my **** sunday.

DavenIII
10-09-2013, 10:09 AM
in other news.

Two of my friends just finished making the official video for the Lumineers song called Submarines, Russ one of the band members used to go to high school with these guys, anyhow they are pretty excited it's up to 30k+ views on youtube in under 24 hours so that's pretty decent...it will probably see some TV as well on whatever does what MTV used to do back when they played Music Videos.

Here is a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgkusNV0GLg

zimonami
10-09-2013, 11:30 AM
Yeah Wednesdays are great. I think Tuesdays and Thursdays are the worst. People say Monday, but I think I'm still in shock at that point - kind of like when you throw a tropical fish in cold water. But on Tuesday that's when it sinks in. Thursday is just a tease since the next day is Friday. Ok. I'm going to bed
It was nice meeting you at the game. I'm curious... why would you throw a tropical fish into cold water? lol. I've had aquariums for 45 years and haven't done that one... yet.

Rudyy
10-09-2013, 11:51 AM
Worst hangover ever. I'm never drinking again.

dezzzR
10-09-2013, 11:52 AM
Mighty Ducks was on last night. Possibly the best piece of American cinema ever.

Moke
10-09-2013, 11:52 AM
Worst hangover ever. I'm never drinking again.

Okay, you'll say that again in 2-3 days hahaha!

gumby74
10-09-2013, 11:58 AM
It was nice meeting you at the game. I'm curious... why would you throw a tropical fish into cold water? lol. I've had aquariums for 45 years and haven't done that one... yet.

Haha. Growing up as a kid I loved keeping aquariums - fresh water ones. The salt water ones were too expensive and we would have ended up killing them.
The reason why I bring up cold water is that when we first started keeping fish, we knew nothing. We knew nothing about water PH or temperature and everything else that it takes to maintain fish. I believe it was a green Sword Tail that we killed. Eventually I want to start again when I have time. It was a lot of fun.

Now that I'm talking about Aquariums, a funny thing happened recently. My uncle recently started feeding his tri-color sharks fish food from the salmon hatchery. And they are enormous now - like 8 inches+?

JPizzack
10-09-2013, 12:08 PM
Mighty Ducks was on last night. Possibly the best piece of American cinema ever.

hahaha....i just watched that recently...

Moke
10-09-2013, 12:09 PM
I watched Reservoir Dogs for the first time last weekend.

What a fantastic film, I love Steve Buscemi.

I have Departed on DVR, I have to watch that too.

JPizzack
10-09-2013, 12:10 PM
I watched Reservoir Dogs for the first time last weekend.

What a fantastic film, I love Steve Buscemi.

I have Departed on DVR, I have to watch that too.

I havent seen Reservoir Dogs in YEARS! I have to watch that again.

Rudyy
10-09-2013, 12:11 PM
Haha. Growing up as a kid I loved keeping aquariums - fresh water ones. The salt water ones were too expensive and we would have ended up killing them.
The reason why I bring up cold water is that when we first started keeping fish, we knew nothing. We knew nothing about water PH or temperature and everything else that it takes to maintain fish. I believe it was a green Sword Tail that we killed. Eventually I want to start again when I have time. It was a lot of fun.

Now that I'm talking about Aquariums, a funny thing happened recently. My uncle recently started feeding his tri-color sharks fish food from the salmon hatchery. And they are enormous now - like 8 inches+?We have a pond in our backyard, and our fish are pond water fish, not fresh water. In the summer, we would have to refill the pond every now and then due to evaporation, and you need very very LITTLE fresh water or else the fish would die within a short period of time.

So my brother put the hose in the pond and turned the water on, then forgot about it and went to his friends house..spent the night there. My mother, dad, and I were not home. He came back the next day and realized he forgot to turn the water off and started to panic and called us lol..we were like uh....turn it off!! Then he's like wtf where are the fish? The way our pond is set up is that there's like a little cave they can swim into, and a lot of algae, and he didn't see them in their cave or anything..so we're like um well fish can't just get up and leave. He opened up the filter and all of them were dead just lying in the filter. He killed all 9 fish lol.

I was so mad at him, and they were beautiful fish too! http://www.drsfostersmith.com/images/articles/a-water-conditioners-43571.jpg

Moke
10-09-2013, 12:14 PM
Someone arrest Rudy's brother, can't he go to jail for that?

Rudyy
10-09-2013, 12:15 PM
Someone arrest Rudy's brother, can't he go to jail for that?Shouldn't you be in jail right now?

dezzzR
10-09-2013, 12:16 PM
I watched Reservoir Dogs for the first time last weekend.

What a fantastic film, I love Steve Buscemi.

I have Departed on DVR, I have to watch that too."You're not gonna get hurt. You're a ****ing Barretta; they believe every word, 'cuz you're ****in super cool."

Moke
10-09-2013, 12:16 PM
Shouldn't you be in jail right now?

:D

Moke
10-09-2013, 12:16 PM
"You're not gonna get hurt. You're a ****ing Barretta; they believe every word, 'cuz you're ****in super cool."

The tipping scene in the beginning was amazing

dezzzR
10-09-2013, 12:32 PM
We have a pond in our backyard, and our fish are pond water fish, not fresh water. In the summer, we would have to refill the pond every now and then due to evaporation, and you need very very LITTLE fresh water or else the fish would die within a short period of time.

So my brother put the hose in the pond and turned the water on, then forgot about it and went to his friends house..spent the night there. My mother, dad, and I were not home. He came back the next day and realized he forgot to turn the water off and started to panic and called us lol..we were like uh....turn it off!! Then he's like wtf where are the fish? The way our pond is set up is that there's like a little cave they can swim into, and a lot of algae, and he didn't see them in their cave or anything..so we're like um well fish can't just get up and leave. He opened up the filter and all of them were dead just lying in the filter. He killed all 9 fish lol.

I was so mad at him, and they were beautiful fish too! http://www.drsfostersmith.com/images/articles/a-water-conditioners-43571.jpg
Sucks. I wouldnt have known that either.

dezzzR
10-09-2013, 01:16 PM
Anyone think Nicks will be back next year....

JPizzack
10-09-2013, 01:22 PM
Anyone think Nicks will be back next year....

i THINK so...but i dont KNOW so...

edit - I also hope so...lol

dezzzR
10-09-2013, 01:24 PM
i THINK so...but i dont KNOW so...

I dont think so. I hope so but hell want something comparable to Cruz and we have much bigger problems than WR.

JPizzack
10-09-2013, 01:33 PM
I think Nicks is a special reciever. Don't get me wrong, Cruz is awesome....but Nicks is just....well...idk how to word it...lol

Rudyy
10-09-2013, 01:33 PM
I think Nicks is a special reciever. Don't get me wrong, Cruz is awesome....but Nicks is just....well...idk how to word it...lol

I agree with you all the way.

gumby74
10-09-2013, 01:37 PM
Anyone think Nicks will be back next year....


i THINK so...but i dont KNOW so...

edit - I also hope so...lol

My guess is no. Nicks is special, but I think JR thinks Randle can step it up and be productive. JRR will probably take our 16-30 million of cap space and do some serious work along the oline. We've seen what happens when Eli has no OL. It won't matter who we have at WR. Eli has also shown he can get it done with whoever is playing WR as well. My guess is that we invest in other areas. But I have no idea.

JPizzack
10-09-2013, 01:42 PM
My guess is no. Nicks is special, but I think JR thinks Randle can step it up and be productive. JRR will probably take our 16-30 million of cap space and do some serious work along the oline. We've seen what happens when Eli has no OL. It won't matter who we have at WR. Eli has also shown he can get it done with whoever is playing WR as well. My guess is that we invest in other areas. But I have no idea.

it's true that Eli can use whoever when he's successful...but, I think randle and Cruz are 2 similar receivers....i think you need something more dynamic. and Myers has basically been a bust considering what we were expecting. I almost feel like we need Nicks.

JPizzack
10-09-2013, 01:43 PM
Keep in mind we have some contracts coming off the books this year. We'll have more wiggle room w/o Tuck for example.

gumby74
10-09-2013, 01:47 PM
it's true that Eli can use whoever when he's successful...but, I think randle and Cruz are 2 similar receivers....i think you need something more dynamic. and Myers has basically been a bust considering what we were expecting. I almost feel like we need Nicks.

JR did well with our DT, but Myers was a terrible signing. I don't know. But they said Randle was supposed to be a Nicks clone. Though, he seems quicker and faster but maybe not as physical.

dezzzR
10-09-2013, 01:55 PM
JR did well with our DT, but Myers was a terrible signing. I don't know. But they said Randle was supposed to be a Nicks clone. Though, he seems quicker and faster but maybe not as physical.
Also drops a lot of deep balls.

JPizzack
10-09-2013, 01:59 PM
Also drops a lot of deep balls.

You dont know anything about balls dropping, because youre like 6 years old...

dezzzR
10-09-2013, 02:03 PM
http://www.bearishnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/goldmans-balls.png

spshhh, i need a wheel barrel yooo.

Moke
10-09-2013, 02:07 PM
Balls dropping ay?

gumby74
10-09-2013, 04:16 PM
Mighty Ducks was on last night. Possibly the best piece of American cinema ever.

I watched Ted on HBO the other night. I don't know about other people, but i thought it was hilarious.

JPizzack
10-09-2013, 04:37 PM
I watched Ted on HBO the other night. I don't know about other people, but i thought it was hilarious.

the first hour was awesome....then it was just bad.

Funny nonetheless...

JPizzack
10-10-2013, 12:18 PM
busy day, eh?

gumby74
10-10-2013, 01:26 PM
busy day, eh?

Busier. I just started at the new gig so meh. So what you think happens at the game tonight. I actually think we win. But I've been saying that for 3 straight weeks now.

JPizzack
10-10-2013, 01:37 PM
Busier. I just started at the new gig so meh. So what you think happens at the game tonight. I actually think we win. But I've been saying that for 3 straight weeks now.

haha....i dont really ever expect to win. i enjoy being pleasantly surprised when we do...but that's kinda my normal attitude....makes it easier to not get disappointed over things

JPizzack
10-10-2013, 01:41 PM
haha....i dont really ever expect to win. i enjoy being pleasantly surprised when we do...but that's kinda my normal attitude....makes it easier to not get disappointed over things

which local network has the game tonight? anyone know?

gumby74
10-10-2013, 01:45 PM
which local network has the game tonight? anyone know?

WPIX I think? Channel 11 over where I'm at.

JPizzack
10-10-2013, 01:48 PM
WPIX I think? Channel 11 over where I'm at.

hmm...we still have pix? i thought that changed to something else up here.
i'll have to look

JPizzack
10-10-2013, 01:52 PM
just figured it out by looking at local channel listings...CW11, cool thx!

gumby74
10-10-2013, 04:12 PM
just figured it out by looking at local channel listings...CW11, cool thx!

No cable?

JPizzack
10-10-2013, 04:19 PM
No cable?

i do have cable...i just have NO idea what the channels are >.>

plus, i just moved so i went from TWC to Optimum

gumby74
10-10-2013, 04:53 PM
i do have cable...i just have NO idea what the channels are >.>

plus, i just moved so i went from TWC to Optimum

Fios is awesome. If you can, get that.

JPizzack
10-10-2013, 04:59 PM
Fios is awesome. If you can, get that.

its available in very few areas up here....the coverage says it can be anywhere, however, there are these like 100 year standing contracts...kind of like old school phone services, where you cant change them. So like, the verizon site says my road has verizon lines...but, then if you try to sign up, it says the service is not available in my area lol. everyone i know has tried lol

dezzzR
10-10-2013, 06:48 PM
Busier. I just started at the new gig so meh. So what you think happens at the game tonight. I actually think we win. But I've been saying that for 3 straight weeks now.

yeaaa me too. Gotta happen sometime, right?

Moke
10-10-2013, 09:08 PM
FIOS seems a little costly, but probably cheaper than the others...heard the same about TWC and that they also suck.

giantyankee1976
10-11-2013, 07:55 AM
Agggghhhhh...I shall refer to "him" as 10 until he evens out his TD: INT ratio

brutal ending, defense is Bill Sheridan or Tim Lewis soft; Jacobs went off but to me this isn't to be expected every week especially depending on his health.

the Pick 6 was killer and now is the difference, the Winning Drive pick finished me off like a bullet to my zombie brain...

dezzzR
10-11-2013, 11:09 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/100greatestcharacters/photos/20.jpg
Brandun Jacuuubs, you got new leeegs!! New magic leegs.

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 11:12 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/100greatestcharacters/photos/20.jpg
Brandun Jacuuubs, you got new leeegs!! New magic leegs.
Jacobs was awesome last night. The O line played very well last night.

The two biggest problems with our team right now...

1. The play of the QB
2. The lack of pass rush.

The O line can't be used as an excuse anymore. They have played well for 2 games now.

JPizzack
10-11-2013, 11:20 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/100greatestcharacters/photos/20.jpg
Brandun Jacuuubs, you got new leeegs!! New magic leegs.

lmao...

Dude, he looked great last night....lowering the shoulders...pulling out like an extra 2 yards on nearly every play. a few times he made me hold my breath though, cuz he did that little jump step behind the line...I HATE that...but i guess it's more reaction than anything, idk...
I'll take what we can get. last night, he had more yards than like everyone combined this season lmao

JPizzack
10-11-2013, 11:22 AM
Jacobs was awesome last night. The O line played very well last night.

The two biggest problems with our team right now...

1. The play of the QB
2. The lack of pass rush.

The O line can't be used as an excuse anymore. They have played well for 2 games now.

lack of pass rush is AWFUL this year. we take a good QB like Cutler, with a good WR like Marshall, and give them 4-5 seconds. they will eat us alive. i dont care how good Prince and Rolle are lol

JPizzack
10-11-2013, 11:26 AM
I dont recall it being against us last week, maybe it was...but.....when offenses run any kind of RB wheel route against us, we're toast. we give up 10-15 yards. it really shows the LB play.

Btw....unsung bright spot last night: Beason? aside from one missed tackle, i thought he was pretty good!

dezzzR
10-11-2013, 11:36 AM
Jacobs was awesome last night. The O line played very well last night.

The two biggest problems with our team right now...

1. The play of the QB
2. The lack of pass rush.

The O line can't be used as an excuse anymore. They have played well for 2 games now.Perry sucks. The second Marshall td was poor playcalling. Zone within the 5. What a ****in moron.
The Wrs are blowing routes too MH. Elis playing like **** but the wrs arent helping either.

BJ looks fresh. Even though the Bears were without both DTs he was still running ppl over. Cordell was still getting pushed around too...

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 11:38 AM
I dont recall it being against us last week, maybe it was...but.....when offenses run any kind of RB wheel route against us, we're toast. we give up 10-15 yards. it really shows the LB play.

Btw....unsung bright spot last night: Beason? aside from one missed tackle, i thought he was pretty good!
I was shocked at how good he looked. He looked fast as well.
I think we might have made a great trade there.

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 11:39 AM
Perry sucks. The second Marshall td was poor playcalling. Zone within the 5. What a ****in moron.
The Wrs are blowing routes too MH. Elis playing like **** but the wrs arent helping either.

BJ looks fresh. Even though the Bears were without both DTs he was still running ppl over. Cordell was still getting pushed around too...
The "WR's are blowing routes" is pure bull****.
They are open all over the friggin field.
On the 2nd pick, the corner read the QB and nothing Randle might have done would have saved that pick 6.

dezzzR
10-11-2013, 11:42 AM
The "WR's are blowing routes" is pure bull****.
They are open all over the friggin field.
On the 2nd pick, the corner read the QB and nothing Randle might have done would have saved that pick 6.He ran the wrong route MH....

DavenIII
10-11-2013, 11:55 AM
WR's are constantly blowing routes in this offense...have been for years...even before Cruz and Nicks...that said Eli is playing poorly this year, there is no debating that fact.

how poorly? well if you want to put 100% of them blame on him...then absolutely freaking terrible...I think he's responsible for about half of the situation this year...so pretty freaking bad still.

Rudyy
10-11-2013, 11:56 AM
WR's are constantly blowing routes in this offense...have been for years...even before Cruz and Nicks...that said Eli is playing poorly this year, there is no debating that fact.

how poorly? well if you want to put 100% of them blame on him...then absolutely freaking terrible...I think he's responsible for about half of the situation this year...so pretty freaking bad still.
Agree with this.

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 11:56 AM
He ran the wrong route MH....
You know this how?

The pressure was lined up on the other side. It doesn't matter even if he did BTW. The corner completely ignored RR and broke on Eli's telegraphing of the play. They knew it was coming and Eli threw it right to him.

RR's play had nothing to do with the pick.

Rudyy
10-11-2013, 11:56 AM
WR's are constantly blowing routes in this offense...have been for years...even before Cruz and Nicks...that said Eli is playing poorly this year, there is no debating that fact.

how poorly? well if you want to put 100% of them blame on him...then absolutely freaking terrible...I think he's responsible for about half of the situation this year...so pretty freaking bad still.
Agree with this.

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 11:58 AM
WR's are constantly blowing routes in this offense...have been for years...even before Cruz and Nicks...that said Eli is playing poorly this year, there is no debating that fact.

how poorly? well if you want to put 100% of them blame on him...then absolutely freaking terrible...I think he's responsible for about half of the situation this year...so pretty freaking bad still.
How do you know this?
They are open all over the field. They are making plays Daven. Maybe the only ones on the offense making plays. Randle has 3 TD's in the last 2 games BTW.

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 12:00 PM
This "WR's are running the wrong routes" bull**** has been spewed for YEARS with this offense. Well the WR's have changed. Maybe we need to look at the one constant.......Our QB.

Those guys are creating separation out there. this system works. As long as they O line is protecting. And they were yesterday. Eli just made some bonehead plays.

Rudyy
10-11-2013, 12:05 PM
This "WR's are running the wrong routes" bull**** has been spewed for YEARS with this offense. Well the WR's have changed. Maybe we need to look at the one constant.......Our QB.

Those guys are creating separation out there. this system works. As long as they O line is protecting. And they were yesterday. Eli just made some bonehead plays.

This system is read and react, if the QB and the WR see two different things, then things go bad. When it works, it looks unstoppable, when it doesn't work it looks terrible..and the INTs come. Yup.

Rudyy
10-11-2013, 12:06 PM
This "WR's are running the wrong routes" bull**** has been spewed for YEARS with this offense. Well the WR's have changed. Maybe we need to look at the one constant.......Our QB.

Those guys are creating separation out there. this system works. As long as they O line is protecting. And they were yesterday. Eli just made some bonehead plays.

This system is read and react, if the QB and the WR see two different things, then things go bad. When it works, it looks unstoppable, when it doesn't work it looks terrible..and the INTs come. Yup.

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 12:09 PM
This system is read and react, if the QB and the WR see two different things, then things go bad. When it works, it looks unstoppable, when it doesn't work it looks terrible..and the INTs come. Yup.
Its not "read and react". Its sight adjustment routes. EVERY team in the NFL uses them.
These guys are open. They are creating separation. They are doing their job.
If there is a "communication" error (whatever the hell that is) its on the QB. HE is responsible for communication. If he has a guy who isn't sure he has to know it from practice, and fix it.
He can't be throwing it into coverage if he doesn't know exactly what the WR will do. And has done a thousand times in practice.

Rudyy
10-11-2013, 12:13 PM
Its not "read and react". Its sight adjustment routes. EVERY team in the NFL uses them.
These guys are open. They are creating separation. They are doing their job.
If there is a "communication" error (whatever the hell that is) its on the QB. HE is responsible for communication. If he has a guy who isn't sure he has to know it from practice, and fix it.
He can't be throwing it into coverage if he doesn't know exactly what the WR will do. And has done a thousand times in practice.

How do you know they are creating separation every play? How do you know they don't practice it?

Moke
10-11-2013, 12:13 PM
Don't we use a different offensive system than other NFL teams though, morehead?

JPizzack
10-11-2013, 12:27 PM
You know this how?

The pressure was lined up on the other side. It doesn't matter even if he did BTW. The corner completely ignored RR and broke on Eli's telegraphing of the play. They knew it was coming and Eli threw it right to him.

RR's play had nothing to do with the pick.

If I were to agree with Dezz...I'd say it's because BOTH the other recievers were running comeback routes...and Eli threw it to Randle as such....

Like it's not poor accuracy if he threw a laser 6-7 feet behind his WR who was only about 15 yards out....that wouldnt make any sense to me.

edit, because he wasnt 10 yards behind him

dezzzR
10-11-2013, 12:38 PM
Don't we use a different offensive system than other NFL teams though, morehead?A lot of teams do it. Giants do it more than most though. Pats also run it, and brady is also struggling a bit

Moke
10-11-2013, 12:46 PM
http://i.minus.com/ibuHSkFAf9y4pR.gif

dezzzR
10-11-2013, 12:51 PM
Its not "read and react". Its sight adjustment routes.

Does anyone else read that and see the exact same thing worded differently?

dezzzR
10-11-2013, 12:52 PM
http://i.minus.com/ibuHSkFAf9y4pR.gif
poor footwork. his hips turned. he got beat bad.

dezzzR
10-11-2013, 01:52 PM
Carl Banks on Brandon Myers: "Good TE's in the NFL make that catch."

Moke
10-11-2013, 02:09 PM
Like Martellus Bennett

gumby74
10-11-2013, 02:16 PM
WR's are constantly blowing routes in this offense...have been for years...even before Cruz and Nicks...that said Eli is playing poorly this year, there is no debating that fact.

how poorly? well if you want to put 100% of them blame on him...then absolutely freaking terrible...I think he's responsible for about half of the situation this year...so pretty freaking bad still.

Whether it be 100% of the blame of 40% of the blame, garbage like this has plagued Eli's career. He's had a ton of WRs throughout the years. He's had issues with every single of them. Eli is the only constant here. Something is very wrong.

Moke
10-11-2013, 02:17 PM
Whether it be 100% of the blame of 40% of the blame, garbage like this has plagued Eli's career. He's had a ton of WRs throughout the years. He's had issues with every single of them. Eli is the only constant here. Something is very wrong.

Ton of WRs throughout the years? That's not an excuse, is it?

gumby74
10-11-2013, 02:18 PM
Carl Banks on Brandon Myers: "Good TE's in the NFL make that catch."

True, but when you have a 20 million dollar QB, you expect passes between the numbers. If it was better thrown, he makes the catch. None of this high and behind making the WR do pirouettes in the air stuff. Im' tired of it.

gumby74
10-11-2013, 02:19 PM
Ton of WRs throughout the years? That's not an excuse, is it?

Not an excuse. My point is the something with Eli is seriously screwed up when it comes to him and his WRs.

gumby74
10-11-2013, 02:21 PM
I"m in one of those weird moods where when the game is on, I'm cheering like mad for us to win. But when we lose, I'm thinking maybe it's better that way for next year. I'm convinced we can quick fix our issues and make the playoffs next year.

Moke
10-11-2013, 02:21 PM
To me it looks like Eli is on a mission to throw it to ONE RECEIVER AND ONE RECEIVER ONLY.

It's like before the snap he says, "GOTTA THROW IT TO RANDLE, THIS PLAY IS DESIGNED FOR RANDLE"

And even if Randle is not looking or not making the cut, he throws it there anyway.

I don't get that honestly.

gumby74
10-11-2013, 03:55 PM
Friday!

dezzzR
10-11-2013, 03:59 PM
Friday!
Yeaaa at least theres that....

Anyone doing anything good?

gumby74
10-11-2013, 04:09 PM
Yeaaa at least theres that....

Anyone doing anything good?

Hmmm. Nope. I've been eating a lot of crap recently. Maybe I'll go running tonight. I stopped doing that insanity workout for a while since it shakes the entire house when I do it in the family room. I need to move it to the basement.

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 04:09 PM
Does anyone else read that and see the exact same thing worded differently?
Let me tell you Dezz.....Randle made the right read on the corner and got behind him. He made the post snap read that he is required to. Eli didn't even bother making a post snap read on the corner and threw it right to him. If Eli had read the corner properly, that would have been an easy TD for us.

This blaming the WR's for "bad routes" is generally bull****. Especially in this case.

gumby74
10-11-2013, 04:58 PM
Candy Bar or no Candy Bar .... I figure I'll run 6 miles today.

Moke
10-11-2013, 05:08 PM
6 miles? my gosh

gumby74
10-11-2013, 05:09 PM
6 miles? my gosh

You still doing Insanity?

Moke
10-11-2013, 05:15 PM
You still doing Insanity?

Yeah but my school schedule has been rough so I stop a lot. I have to do it when I have more free time.

gumby74
10-11-2013, 05:27 PM
Yeah but my school schedule has been rough so I stop a lot. I have to do it when I have more free time.

Yeah it's tough. IT's like a good hour of your time.

Moke
10-11-2013, 05:30 PM
Yeah it's tough. IT's like a good hour of your time.

I can't even do 20 mins

DavenIII
10-11-2013, 05:58 PM
Whether it be 100% of the blame of 40% of the blame, garbage like this has plagued Eli's career. He's had a ton of WRs throughout the years. He's had issues with every single of them. Eli is the only constant here. Something is very wrong.

there is another constant, Gilbride, he's always run a very complicated Offense for WR's I'm not saying Eli isn't also responsible but if Eli has been in Gilbrides offense for 2,3 or 5 times as many years as his WR's have...and there is a miss communication on a play between the QB and the WR...my money is on the WR being wrong most of the time...Eli has been practicing these plays far longer then Nicks and Cruz have.

gumby74
10-11-2013, 06:12 PM
there is another constant, Gilbride, he's always run a very complicated Offense for WR's I'm not saying Eli isn't also responsible but if Eli has been in Gilbrides offense for 2,3 or 5 times as many years as his WR's have...and there is a miss communication on a play between the QB and the WR...my money is on the WR being wrong most of the time...Eli has been practicing these plays far longer then Nicks and Cruz have.

Very true. My next question then would be why is no other QB having these issues? YA has said that Pittsburgh, New England, and a bunch of other teams run a similar option based offense. I just don't think KG's offense is rocket science compared to what other teams run.

Morehead State
10-11-2013, 07:14 PM
there is another constant, Gilbride, he's always run a very complicated Offense for WR's I'm not saying Eli isn't also responsible but if Eli has been in Gilbrides offense for 2,3 or 5 times as many years as his WR's have...and there is a miss communication on a play between the QB and the WR...my money is on the WR being wrong most of the time...Eli has been practicing these plays far longer then Nicks and Cruz have.
It wasn't a complicated read. if the corner breaks to jump a route, the WR, is to release. Which Randle did, HE got it right, Eli didn't bother reading the corner post snap and threw it right to him for a pick 6.
It wasn't complicated for Randle, just Eli.

alentown pa
10-12-2013, 12:04 AM
It wasn't a complicated read. if the corner breaks to jump a route, the WR, is to release. Which Randle did, HE got it right, Eli didn't bother reading the corner post snap and threw it right to him for a pick 6.
It wasn't complicated for Randle, just Eli.

Are u confident in ur sox against Detroit ?

Imgrate
10-12-2013, 01:00 AM
We are weak at the 3 vital positions. QB pass rushers and cover guys. I told you guys that the David Wilson pick would set us back

dezzzR
10-12-2013, 04:11 PM
Let me tell you Dezz.....Randle made the right read on the corner and got behind him. He made the post snap read that he is required to. Eli didn't even bother making a post snap read on the corner and threw it right to him. If Eli had read the corner properly, that would have been an easy TD for us.

This blaming the WR's for "bad routes" is generally bull****. Especially in this case.
And let me tell you MH......http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/10/tom_coughlin_breaks_down_miscommunication_between_ eli_manning_and_rueben_randle.html

"Coughlin said that Randle did not do a good enough job letting Manning know he was going to extend the route. His body language was, apparently, undetectable.

"His language was a little bit indicative that he wasnít going to and then he did," Coughlin said. "By that time the quarterback had thrown the ball. Eli should have seen the corner. It would have helped him to go somewhere else, whether Rueben was right or wrong. Iím sure he would tell you the same thing."

gumby74
10-12-2013, 04:32 PM
We are weak at the 3 vital positions. QB pass rushers and cover guys. I told you guys that the David Wilson pick would set us back

Technically you could have said the same thing about the JPP pick. I hated that pick, but it happened to work out. Hindsight is 20/20.

Morehead State
10-12-2013, 05:14 PM
And let me tell you MH......http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/10/tom_coughlin_breaks_down_miscommunication_between_ eli_manning_and_rueben_randle.html

"Coughlin said that Randle did not do a good enough job letting Manning know he was going to extend the route. His body language was, apparently, undetectable.

"His language was a little bit indicative that he wasnít going to and then he did," Coughlin said. "By that time the quarterback had thrown the ball. Eli should have seen the corner. It would have helped him to go somewhere else, whether Rueben was right or wrong. Iím sure he would tell you the same thing."
Again with Coughlin's desire to protect Eli from criticism. See my thread from Friday morning.
"Body language"? You have to be kidding me. Its not about body language. Its about reading the proper indicators (like a corner jumping a route) and players making the proper read. Randle made the right read and was open for a TD. Eli made the wrong read and threw it to the corner. Now the body language has to be right? Nonsense.

BTW...Even if Randle did exactly what Eli expected, it would still have been picked and still would have been a Bears TD. The corner read the QB and he guessed right.

Morehead State
10-12-2013, 05:16 PM
Are u confident in ur sox against Detroit ?
I don't like the Sox against power pitching in general. But I expect to win in 6. Just got to hide Napoli who can't hit a fastball thrown over 90 MPH.

Imgrate
10-12-2013, 06:22 PM
Technically you could have said the same thing about the JPP pick. I hated that pick, but it happened to work out. Hindsight is 20/20.

No you couldn't . We needed another pass rusher. Always need pass rushers and cover guys

Imgrate
10-12-2013, 06:23 PM
Again with Coughlin's desire to protect Eli from criticism. See my thread from Friday morning.
"Body language"? You have to be kidding me. Its not about body language. Its about reading the proper indicators (like a corner jumping a route) and players making the proper read. Randle made the right read and was open for a TD. Eli made the wrong read and threw it to the corner. Now the body language has to be right? Nonsense.

BTW...Even if Randle did exactly what Eli expected, it would still have been picked and still would have been a Bears TD. The corner read the QB and he guessed right.

Time for a regime change. Marc ross, coughlin and staff need to go

gumby74
10-12-2013, 09:26 PM
Time for a regime change. Marc ross, coughlin and staff need to go


Not sure about Ross, but TC and company definitely need to go.

DavenIII
10-14-2013, 10:55 AM
good morning super friends

Moke
10-14-2013, 11:03 AM
Good morning

dezzzR
10-14-2013, 11:13 AM
Again with Coughlin's desire to protect Eli from criticism. See my thread from Friday morning.
"Body language"? You have to be kidding me. Its not about body language. Its about reading the proper indicators (like a corner jumping a route) and players making the proper read. Randle made the right read and was open for a TD. Eli made the wrong read and threw it to the corner. Now the body language has to be right? Nonsense.

BTW...Even if Randle did exactly what Eli expected, it would still have been picked and still would have been a Bears TD. The corner read the QB and he guessed right.So TC is going to throw Randle under the bus to protect Eli from some criticism, something Elis never had a problem with his whole career? Sounds very un-Coughlin like too me.
I knew you were going to make some weak case. "Meehhh Im MH, your facts mean nothing cause I'm never wrong"
You do know WRs signal back to qbs too, dont you?

gumby74
10-14-2013, 11:23 AM
Mondays suck. Anyway, it's a tad irritating that Ben is drastically outplaying Eli with as bad an oline if not worse, worse WRs, and no running game.

gumby74
10-14-2013, 11:52 AM
Bored. Boss is out sick. And being the procrastinator I am, I choose to chill out here.

gumby74
10-14-2013, 12:29 PM
So what's for lunch

dezzzR
10-14-2013, 12:32 PM
So what's for lunch

Maybe Moes, maybe a Blvd(chicken cutlet, melted american, bacon, and russian dressing). Whatever it is it wont be too healthy.

dezzzR
10-14-2013, 12:33 PM
Mondays suck. Anyway, it's a tad irritating that Ben is drastically outplaying Eli with as bad an oline if not worse, worse WRs, and no running game.

Their defense showed up yesterday.

gumby74
10-14-2013, 12:38 PM
Mondays suck. Anyway, it's a tad irritating that Ben is drastically outplaying Eli with as bad an oline if not worse, worse WRs, and no running game.


Their defense showed up yesterday.

I'm not talking about the win though. Just individual performance. Ben has to deal with all the garbage Eli has to and more.

gumby74
10-14-2013, 12:43 PM
Maybe Moes, maybe a Blvd(chicken cutlet, melted american, bacon, and russian dressing). Whatever it is it wont be too healthy.

Damn that sounds good.

Morehead State
10-14-2013, 02:01 PM
So TC is going to throw Randle under the bus to protect Eli from some criticism, something Elis never had a problem with his whole career? Sounds very un-Coughlin like too me.
I knew you were going to make some weak case. "Meehhh Im MH, your facts mean nothing cause I'm never wrong"
You do know WRs signal back to qbs too, dont you?
Its extremely Coughlin like regarding Eli. He always blames someone else when it comes to our QB. I think he believes that Eli's psyche can't handle that kind of public criticism. The only time I ever heard TC criticize Eli was at the Combine in 2011 when he suggested he needed to throw the ball away more and take more sacks. But that was during the off season. His comments about Randle were complete bull****.
And what are you talking about with "signaling back". Randle saw the corner jump the route and he broke open. That's a post snap read. He raised his hand to tell the QB he was open. That was an easy TD that Eli missed. Its not Randle's fault that Eli didn't see it as well.
Randle's job is to read the corner and react accordingly.
This is what the sight adjustment routes are all about. They aren't complicated reads. Randle made his, Eli didn't.

DavenIII
10-14-2013, 02:07 PM
Its extremely Coughlin like regarding Eli. He always blames someone else when it comes to our QB. I think he believes that Eli's psyche can't handle that kind of public criticism.


I know you are trolling so hard here...I'm not going to bite.

Morehead State
10-14-2013, 02:24 PM
I know you are trolling so hard here...I'm not going to bite.
Have you heard TC criticize Eli's 15 picks?
No...He looks to blame the WR or anyone else he can find.
I said this last week when he criticized Myers "getting 2 hands on the pass". This is why Eli keeps making thees stupid plays. The coaching staff won't hold him accountable.
Eli throws it directly to a corner who jumped a 5 yard curl and he tries to blame the WR because he didn't think his "body language" was strong enough.
Is that not the most ridiculous thing you ever heard? Our offense is based on players using the proper "body language".
If it is...the entire coaching staff from TC on down should be fired immediately.

The body language of the corner was definitely strong enough for Eli to read.....which he didn't.

DavenIII
10-14-2013, 03:13 PM
Ok I will bite.



Have you heard TC criticize Eli's 15 picks?
Nope.


He looks to blame the WR or anyone else he can find.
So it's the coach blaming the wrong player not you? you were always the one saying that none of us knew **** and we should always be trusting in whatever the coaches (whose job it was to know this stuff) said.


I said this last week when he criticized Myers "getting 2 hands on the pass". This is why Eli keeps making thees stupid plays. The coaching staff won't hold him accountable.
I'm pretty sure Eli is holding himself accountable, more so then anyone else is to be honest, I'm sure that he's killing himself for all these mistakes he (and the team) is making regardless of whose "fault" it is....and I'm sure he's trying his hardest to rectify the situation...because that's the type of player (and person) he seems to be.



Eli throws it directly to a corner who jumped a 5 yard curl and he tries to blame the WR because he didn't think his "body language" was strong enough. Is that not the most ridiculous thing you ever heard? Our offense is based on players using the proper "body language".

no that's not ridiculous at all, well not that he said that...I've always said Gilbride offense was too complicated..year after year after year there are always these miss communications, in fact we've been using "Body Language" at the line to define what routes WR's were going to run for years and it has been talked about how it sometimes results in miss communication before...this is nothing new, it's just happening MORE this year then it has in the past....personally I believe a big reason for that is because Eli has less time, obviously he's got to accept some of the blame as well but I still believe the lion's share of the blame should be put squarely on Jerry Reese and Gilbride....in my opinion Gilbrides offense has always been terrible, it's been Eli bailing him out year after year...he's not doing so this year.


If it is...the entire coaching staff from TC on down should be fired immediately.
Not such a terrible idea.

dezzzR
10-14-2013, 03:19 PM
Its extremely Coughlin like regarding Eli. He always blames someone else when it comes to our QB. I think he believes that Eli's psyche can't handle that kind of public criticism. The only time I ever heard TC criticize Eli was at the Combine in 2011 when he suggested he needed to throw the ball away more and take more sacks. But that was during the off season. His comments about Randle were complete bull****.
And what are you talking about with "signaling back". Randle saw the corner jump the route and he broke open. That's a post snap read. He raised his hand to tell the QB he was open. That was an easy TD that Eli missed. Its not Randle's fault that Eli didn't see it as well.
Randle's job is to read the corner and react accordingly.
This is what the sight adjustment routes are all about. They aren't complicated reads. Randle made his, Eli didn't.Iv herd him say turnovers are killing us every presser....

Anyone that wants TC gone is a traitor. Go root for the ****ing Jets

Morehead State
10-14-2013, 04:52 PM
Iv herd him say turnovers are killing us every presser....

Anyone that wants TC gone is a traitor. Go root for the ****ing Jets
He blames Myers for not catching a ball throw over his head where he was wide open.
He blames Randle for the wrong "body language"
I wish he wouldn't single out any player, including Eli. But these comments suggest that he will find anyone to blame but Eli.

Holy ****!!!!! TC is an Eli Cultist!!!!!!!!

Morehead State
10-14-2013, 04:54 PM
Ok I will bite.



Nope.


So it's the coach blaming the wrong player not you? you were always the one saying that none of us knew **** and we should always be trusting in whatever the coaches (whose job it was to know this stuff) said.


I'm pretty sure Eli is holding himself accountable, more so then anyone else is to be honest, I'm sure that he's killing himself for all these mistakes he (and the team) is making regardless of whose "fault" it is....and I'm sure he's trying his hardest to rectify the situation...because that's the type of player (and person) he seems to be.




no that's not ridiculous at all, well not that he said that...I've always said Gilbride offense was too complicated..year after year after year there are always these miss communications, in fact we've been using "Body Language" at the line to define what routes WR's were going to run for years and it has been talked about how it sometimes results in miss communication before...this is nothing new, it's just happening MORE this year then it has in the past....personally I believe a big reason for that is because Eli has less time, obviously he's got to accept some of the blame as well but I still believe the lion's share of the blame should be put squarely on Jerry Reese and Gilbride....in my opinion Gilbrides offense has always been terrible, it's been Eli bailing him out year after year...he's not doing so this year.


Not such a terrible idea.
Let me just say this Daven. When our QB goes on the radio, with (at the time) 12 picks in 5 games, and claims that he is "playing well" like he did on WFAN last week, I have a problem with that.
That makes me wonder if he truly is holding himself accountable at all.

I think we can all agree that right now, he is most certainly not playing well.

giantyankee1976
10-14-2013, 10:42 PM
He blames Myers for not catching a ball throw over his head where he was wide open.
He blames Randle for the wrong "body language"
I wish he wouldn't single out any player, including Eli. But these comments suggest that he will find anyone to blame but Eli.

Holy ****!!!!! TC is an Eli Cultist!!!!!!!!

whaaa? RR is a dingle berry that DOES run incorrect routes...

Myers touched the high pass, high yes, touched yes, modified tip drill

But 10 does fudge it up...

to me the dearth of real talent at LT, Backer, Back & D-End screams and yells Front Office.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 09:42 AM
whaaa? RR is a dingle berry that DOES run incorrect routes...

Myers touched the high pass, high yes, touched yes, modified tip drill

But 10 does fudge it up...

to me the dearth of real talent at LT, Backer, Back & D-End screams and yells Front Office.
Should he give back all those TD's and yards?

Our WR's are the very least of our problems....including Randle.

DavenIII
10-15-2013, 09:57 AM
Let me just say this Daven. When our QB goes on the radio, with (at the time) 12 picks in 5 games, and claims that he is "playing well" like he did on WFAN last week, I have a problem with that.
That makes me wonder if he truly is holding himself accountable at all.

I think we can all agree that right now, he is most certainly not playing well.

I agree he isn't "playing well" I don't think he honestly believes he is either, I think he was just giving a radio interview and said whatever...it's just an interview on the radio none of that crap means anything.

I correlate to bowling as always, there are plenty of times when I'm throwing the ball right where I need to throw it and the results are not what they should be, it happens all the time...it happened last night to be honest and my scores would tell you I bowled like **** that said...I think I was throwing the ball well, I just bowled bad...I assume that's kind of what Eli meant when he said he was playing well...

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 09:57 AM
He blames Myers for not catching a ball throw over his head where he was wide open.
He blames Randle for the wrong "body language"
I wish he wouldn't single out any player, including Eli. But these comments suggest that he will find anyone to blame but Eli.

Holy ****!!!!! TC is an Eli Cultist!!!!!!!!

I think you assuming that ANYONE knows this offense better than Eli is the actual ridiculous part.

Eli has said after every game that his turnovers are killing the team. He takes blame for things that may not even be his actual fault. (Because that's what captains, and leaders do!)

the only person who is ALLOWED to place blame is TC. And I'm ok with whatever he says. Do i think some of the INTs were on Eli? Yes, no doubt.
Do I think they are all him? Not even close.
Like I said first....Nobody knows this offense better than Eli...to say that a 2nd year player is doing all teh right things, and Eli is doing all the wrongs....kind of a dumb assumption.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 10:05 AM
I think you assuming that ANYONE knows this offense better than Eli is the actual ridiculous part.

Eli has said after every game that his turnovers are killing the team. He takes blame for things that may not even be his actual fault. (Because that's what captains, and leaders do!)

the only person who is ALLOWED to place blame is TC. And I'm ok with whatever he says. Do i think some of the INTs were on Eli? Yes, no doubt.
Do I think they are all him? Not even close.
Like I said first....Nobody knows this offense better than Eli...to say that a 2nd year player is doing all teh right things, and Eli is doing all the wrongs....kind of a dumb assumption.
Understanding the offense and making the proper reads from the pocket with a pass rush in your face are two different things. I'm sure if Eli had a minute or two to think about it he wouldn't have made some of the throws he has. But this is about split second reactions. Its not about understanding the offense.
For the first time ever, Eli actually almost sounded like he was taking "some" responsibility for his play after the Bears game.
Its a far cry from his "I'm playing well" comment on WFAN after the Eagles game.

Eli is playing like crap. Its just a fact. RR has been playing very well. The WR's are the best group on the team. To try to blame them for this crap start is complete nonsense.
Eli is back to making bad decisions and no "understanding the offense" is going to change that.

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 10:07 AM
Understanding the offense and making the proper reads from the pocket with a pass rush in your face are two different things.
For the first time ever, Eli actually almost sounded like he was taking "some" responsibility for his play after the Bears game.
Its a far cry from his "I'm playing well" comment on WFAN after the Eagles game.

Eli is playing like crap. Its just a fact. RR has been playing very well. The WR's are the best group on the team. To try to blame them for this crap start is complete nonsense.
Eli is back to making bad decisions and no "understanding the offense" is going to change that.

so is this about the radio interview on the fan? lol....
who cares...would you rather him say the team is mailing it in? I dont care what he says during interviews really...he's just going to try to say what people want to hear, that the team is trying, but struggling, and they are all doing their best to correct it...

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 10:08 AM
so is this about the radio interview on the fan? lol....
who cares...would you rather him say the team is mailing it in? I dont care what he says during interviews really...he's just going to try to say what people want to hear, that the team is trying, but struggling, and they are all doing their best to correct it...
he didn't say the team was playing well. He said that HE was playing well.
He is delusional. We are 3-11 in our last 14 games. He has more turnovers than any TEAM in the NFL this year.
If he thinks he's playing well I think we have found the problem.

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 10:15 AM
he didn't say the team was playing well. He said that HE was playing well.
He is delusional. We are 3-11 in our last 14 games. He has more turnovers than any TEAM in the NFL this year.
If he thinks he's playing well I think we have found the problem.

I know what he said....and like I said...I dont think it matters. he was just doing the typical team leader PR nonsense. He knows hes not playing well...because hes said it in literally every press conference. But by all means, lets just keep speculating that he's placing blame on everyone else.

Plus....Morehead knows more than everyone in the Giants organization, so...i hold his opinion higher than most...

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 10:26 AM
I know what he said....and like I said...I dont think it matters. he was just doing the typical team leader PR nonsense. He knows hes not playing well...because hes said it in literally every press conference. But by all means, lets just keep speculating that he's placing blame on everyone else.

Plus....Morehead knows more than everyone in the Giants organization, so...i hold his opinion higher than most...
"Team leader PR stuff" would be...."No I'm not playing well...I have to work harder and eliminate the turnovers".

What he said was that "HE" was playing well. The team was 0-5 at the time so since "he" was playing well it all must be the fault of others.
That's not "team leader PR stuff".
Thats throwing everyone else under the bus and absolving him of any blame.

Its actually the opposite of being a team leader.

byron
10-15-2013, 10:33 AM
he didn't say the team was playing well. He said that HE was playing well.
He is delusional. We are 3-11 in our last 14 games. He has more turnovers than any TEAM in the NFL this year.
If he thinks he's playing well I think we have found the problem.

There it is Eli needs to see a psychiatrist ! How could all the people around him not notice that he has become delusional....Maybe they are all delusional ! they have the game tapes,"undeniable proof of whats going on" and they can't see it ! Maybe we should start kicking them, send a message that they suck, start trade rumors and such especially Eli he sucks the most ! ....... oh wait

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 10:37 AM
I think youre reading WAAAAAY too deep into that....

you are just such a hater that you dont really care what goes on lol. It's so difficult to have a normal discussion about it with you.

byron
10-15-2013, 10:39 AM
"Team leader PR stuff" would be...."No I'm not playing well...I have to work harder and eliminate the turnovers".

What he said was that "HE" was playing well. The team was 0-5 at the time so since "he" was playing well it all must be the fault of others.
That's not "team leader PR stuff".
Thats throwing everyone else under the bus and absolving him of any blame.

Its actually the opposite of being a team leader. come on man ! This TEAM is not playing well and Eli has said many times he has to play better, and would never intentionally or otherwise throw anyone under the bus ......

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 10:40 AM
come on man ! This TEAM is not playing well and Eli has said many times he has to play better, and would never intentionally or otherwise throw anyone under the bus ......

exactly...

one radio show audio byte doesnt erase 5 prior press conference of his shouldering the blame.....its ridiculous that we even have to say this to MH lol

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 10:42 AM
There it is Eli needs to see a psychiatrist ! How could all the people around him not notice that he has become delusional....Maybe they are all delusional ! they have the game tapes,"undeniable proof of whats going on" and they can't see it ! Maybe we should start kicking them, send a message that they suck, start trade rumors and such especially Eli he sucks the most ! ....... oh wait
Did you leave the Eagles game thinking......"Man...Eli is really playing well"?

He did!

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 10:43 AM
Did you leave the Eagles game thinking......"Man...Eli is really playing well"?

He did!

this isn't even trolling...it's just stupid.....

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 10:45 AM
exactly...

one radio show audio byte doesnt erase 5 prior press conference of his shouldering the blame.....its ridiculous that we even have to say this to MH lol
Eli NEVER takes personal responsibility publicly for his play. He always gives these stupid stock answers.
Sometimes you have to say .."I'm playing like crap and it has to stop". Which he never does. He came as close as he ever has after the Bears game but that was the first I heard of that ever.
He may give the old "we gotta fix these problems" or we just have to work harder" but that';s it.

I'm sorry Eli....right now you suck. And going public saying that you are "playing well" is a load of bull****.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 10:46 AM
this isn't even trolling...it's just stupid.....
He said what he said Pizz. Do you deny that its what he said the day after that friggin game?

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 10:51 AM
Eli NEVER takes personal responsibility publicly for his play. He always gives these stupid stock answers.
Sometimes you have to say .."I'm playing like crap and it has to stop". Which he never does. He came as close as he ever has after the Bears game but that was the first I heard of that ever.
He may give the old "we gotta fix these problems" or we just have to work harder" but that';s it.

I'm sorry Eli....right now you suck. And going public saying that you are "playing well" is a load of bull****.

dude, I've never...EVER heard anyone say what you just said about themselves....at least not said so harshly. This is so ridiculous MH. Because if he said "Wow I really suck right now, all I'm doing is hurting the team" you would just call for his head, say he's lost ALL confidence and we should throw him to the scrap heap.
Youre such a troll, and a terrible one at that. it's embarassing really.

byron
10-15-2013, 10:51 AM
Eli NEVER takes personal responsibility publicly for his play. He always gives these stupid stock answers.
Sometimes you have to say .."I'm playing like crap and it has to stop". Which he never does. He came as close as he ever has after the Bears game but that was the first I heard of that ever.
He may give the old "we gotta fix these problems" or we just have to work harder" but that';s it.

I'm sorry Eli....right now you suck. And going public saying that you are "playing well" is a load of bull****. this is just not true

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 10:53 AM
He said what he said Pizz. Do you deny that its what he said the day after that friggin game?

unlike you....i dont care. because it's a radio show, (not even a good one), and it's just media jibber jabber. I dont watch/listen to that crap....i just watch the team, and decide who sucks...

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 10:59 AM
unlike you....i dont care. because it's a radio show, (not even a good one), and it's just media jibber jabber. I dont watch/listen to that crap....i just watch the team, and decide who sucks...
That would be fine if his play was improving. It would be fine if he seems determined to stop repeating the same mistakes over and over..like a rookie QB.
But the same stupid mistakes are being made and he seems not to be learning from them.
In this context...the "I'm playing well" comments are disturbing. It makes perfect sense that he believes that if he's not eliminating mistakes.

And personally...I want the mistakes to stop. But that's me. if they're OK with you have fun with that.

gumby74
10-15-2013, 11:04 AM
I'm not going to go as far as MH, but Eli's playing like crap and it's pissing me off.

DavenIII
10-15-2013, 11:06 AM
And personally...I want the mistakes to stop. But that's me. if they're OK with you have fun with that.

If that's what you want, then you want a new OC, cause as long as Gilbride is running it we are going to have a body language driven option based, high risk high reward offense that is always going to be prone to many miss communications no matter who the QB is.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 11:07 AM
I'm not going to go as far as MH, but Eli's playing like crap and it's pissing me off.
But that's all I'm saying.
He needs to play better. It would be nice if he thought so too. Do you think he does?
His play suggests otherwise.

gumby74
10-15-2013, 11:09 AM
If that's what you want, then you want a new OC, cause as long as Gilbride is running it we are going to have a body language driven option based, high risk high reward offense that is always going to be prone to many miss communications no matter who the QB is.

Here's a question. Given that a bunch of other teams run a heavy option based offense like ours, could it be possible that Eli just isn't good enough to play in this system?

Again, another possibility and why I want another OC.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 11:09 AM
If that's what you want, then you want a new OC, cause as long as Gilbride is running it we are going to have a body language driven option based, high risk high reward offense that is always going to be prone to many miss communications no matter who the QB is.
The body language comment was BS.
it was a simple read Daven. The corner jumped the route and Randle read that. Eli didn't.

But I do think that if this season goes downhill (like 3-13) this entire regime needs to go. That's TC and the coordinators.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 11:13 AM
Here's a question. Given that a bunch of other teams run a heavy option based offense like ours, could it be possible that Eli just isn't good enough to play in this system?

Again, another possibility and why I want another OC.
He's good enough when he's confident. He's good enough when he has time to read coverage and get the ball to the right matchups downfield.
When his confidence is shot (like now) the game speeds up and he makes poor post snap reads.

Our sight adjustment system is designed to punish corners who take the risk that Jennings took. Randle was wide open for a TD and Eli threw it to the defender.
He simply made the wrong read. As a matter of fact it seems that he made no post snap read at all. He saw the corner playing off pre snap and assumed the 5 yard curl would be open.

dezzzR
10-15-2013, 11:19 AM
I see the masses are fighting the good fight.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 11:29 AM
I love you friggin guys.
Our ****ing team is 0-6. THAT'S ****ING 0-6!!!!!!!

I am pissed off. The fact that you guys don't seem to be is ridiculous.
Our boy throws three picks in the 4th quarter of a game, then says the next day that he's "playing well".....and that DOESN'T piss you guys off?????

I just don't get it.

byron
10-15-2013, 11:56 AM
I love you friggin guys.
Our ****ing team is 0-6. THAT'S ****ING 0-6!!!!!!!

I am pissed off. The fact that you guys don't seem to be is ridiculous.
Our boy throws three picks in the 4th quarter of a game, then says the next day that he's "playing well".....and that DOESN'T piss you guys off?????

I just don't get it. you know what I've wanted changes here for quite some... "****ing years" I'm tired of being pissed off....I want changes to this coaching staff plain and simple...I'm tired of all the **** that comes and gos with TC and company I'm very grateful for the 2 SB's but the rest of the **** not thanks ...This is one stubborn to the point of stupid staff......they are wasting talent because they don't know how to coach anything other than their system...
I don't give a **** where Eli stands in it all......You've all heard me say this stuff before .....Time for the three stooges to go.....hows that.......I'm pissed off plenty

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 11:58 AM
you know what I've wanted changes here for quite some... "****ing years" I'm tired of being pissed off....I want changes to this coaching staff plain and simple...I'm tired of all the **** that comes and gos with TC and company I'm very grateful for the 2 SB's but the rest of the **** not thanks ...This is one stubborn to the point of stupid staff......they are wasting talent because they don't know how to coach anything other than their system...
I don't give a **** where Eli stands in it all......You've all heard me say this stuff before .....Time for the three stooges to go.....hows that.......I'm pissed off plenty

That's better.

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 11:59 AM
I love you friggin guys.
Our ****ing team is 0-6. THAT'S ****ING 0-6!!!!!!!

I am pissed off. The fact that you guys don't seem to be is ridiculous.
Our boy throws three picks in the 4th quarter of a game, then says the next day that he's "playing well".....and that DOESN'T piss you guys off?????

I just don't get it.

first off....I don't really get PISSED off over sports. Yea, I'm really disappointed with the way this season is turning out. But what it comes down to is that WORDS dont change anything. I dont care if Eli thinks he's having a HOF year. Clearly he isn't. The team knows that there is waaaaay too many things going wrong. I really have never been too excited about the way we run our offense. I watch other games, and there are SO many plays that get like 10 yards a pop, and im like "why dont WE ever run that play?!?!"

I think this offseason is going to result in a change of coordinators. there's gotta be SOMETHING....i dont think it's fewell's fault that we have a lack of pass rush, or the worst LBs corp in the league...but, we're in no position to win right now. so might as well start over with them.

gumby74
10-15-2013, 12:17 PM
But that's all I'm saying.
He needs to play better. It would be nice if he thought so too. Do you think he does?
His play suggests otherwise.

I don't put much stock in what's being said in public - especially from Eli. It's the same canned answer every time. But for me, what makes it worse is that he's a stone. The dude has no emotion. Our team is lost. We have no identity. We used to have that when Eli was Eli. We knew that if the game was close, we had Mr. Clutch to help save it for us. We had big play ability. We lost all of that. We need someone to step up and take the reigns. It would be nice if Eli actually did something in that regard for once. When you lead by example, and you're not performing, what do you have? Nothing.

As outsiders, all we can do is speculate. Is he a leader? Is he not a leader? I don't know. But what is fact is that if we're to turn this thing around, it begins with Eli. If he's going to lead by example, play freaking better. If you're not going to play better, find some other way to contribute. Pretty much everyone has had something to say about this team - whether it's now white noise or not. Tuck, Rolle, hell even Beason. Eli hasn't said a damn word outside of what is politically correct.

I'm not saying he's not a leader. But I hope he's doing something behind the scenes.

dezzzR
10-15-2013, 12:18 PM
I love you friggin guys.
Our ****ing team is 0-6. THAT'S ****ING 0-6!!!!!!!

I am pissed off. The fact that you guys don't seem to be is ridiculous.
Our boy throws three picks in the 4th quarter of a game, then says the next day that he's "playing well".....and that DOESN'T piss you guys off?????

I just don't get it.Hey watch your language!

Hes said he has to play better MH. What else do you want from the guy? You want Nassib or Painter to start? Weve been a top 10 offense for a few years, now unfortunately theyve hit a wall. Besides the Panthers game, its not like they arent trying and busting their asses. Thats really the only game that pissed me off, bad, really bad.

To quote one of you favorite historical figures "When a man tries his best, what else is there?". Its just not our year man

DavenIII
10-15-2013, 12:19 PM
I love you friggin guys.
Our ****ing team is 0-6. THAT'S ****ING 0-6!!!!!!!

I am pissed off. The fact that you guys don't seem to be is ridiculous.
Our boy throws three picks in the 4th quarter of a game, then says the next day that he's "playing well".....and that DOESN'T piss you guys off?????

I just don't get it.

From my perspective I place more of the blame on Gilbride and Reese then anyone else...I've been angry at Gilbride since he started coaching here...he's been terrible for his entire career here in my opinion, Reese had some unbelievable drafts early and then became god around here (In Reese we trust?) I never was "that" high on him although I can't deny those early drafts his last few he's just ignored our O-line and some other weaknesses that should have been addressed.

on Eli, I'm not mad at Eli...Eli throws int's always has, he tries to do too much but that said there is still no other QB I'd rather have in a clutch situation, when he is on he is money and those Int's are TD's instead and he can single handedly win games for us...he has 2 SB MVP's and I don't know if you know or not but the way most teams rate QB's nowadays is whether they have the ability to take a team to and win a SB...well Eli does...he's done it and he wasnt just "along for the ride" he was a HUGE portion of why we won both SB's

so am I angry at the giants performance...yeah a little, but the persons responsible for this **** (in my opinion) are the same people that I've been angry at for 5-6+ years even while we were winning SB's...Gilbride sucks has always sucked and Eli just isn't bailing him out this year.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 12:20 PM
first off....I don't really get PISSED off over sports. Yea, I'm really disappointed with the way this season is turning out. But what it comes down to is that WORDS dont change anything. I dont care if Eli thinks he's having a HOF year. Clearly he isn't. The team knows that there is waaaaay too many things going wrong. I really have never been too excited about the way we run our offense. I watch other games, and there are SO many plays that get like 10 yards a pop, and im like "why dont WE ever run that play?!?!"

I think this offseason is going to result in a change of coordinators. there's gotta be SOMETHING....i dont think it's fewell's fault that we have a lack of pass rush, or the worst LBs corp in the league...but, we're in no position to win right now. so might as well start over with them.
Do you honestly think TC is going to fire both coordinators. As I said, he had to be threatened by Mr. Mara just to fire Bill Sheridan.
The only way we will get new coordinators is by getting a new HC.

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 12:22 PM
From my perspective I place more of the blame on Gilbride and Reese then anyone else...I've been angry at Gilbride since he started coaching here...he's been terrible for his entire career here in my opinion, Reese had some unbelievable drafts early and then became god around here (In Reese we trust?) I never was "that" high on him although I can't deny those early drafts his last few he's just ignored our O-line and some other weaknesses that should have been addressed.

on Eli, I'm not mad at Eli...Eli throws int's always has, he tries to do too much but that said there is still no other QB I'd rather have in a clutch situation, when he is on he is money and those Int's are TD's instead and he can single handedly win games for us...he has 2 SB MVP's and I don't know if you know or not but the way most teams rate QB's nowadays is whether they have the ability to take a team to and win a SB...well Eli does...he's done it and he wasnt just "along for the ride" he was a HUGE portion of why we won both SB's

so am I angry at the giants performance...yeah a little, but the persons responsible for this **** (in my opinion) are the same people that I've been angry at for 5-6+ years even while we were winning SB's...Gilbride sucks has always sucked and Eli just isn't bailing him out this year.
You're angry at KG and JR but not at the player who's had more turnovers than any TEAM in the league.

What does this tell you about yourself? Might as well call you Daven420.

gumby74
10-15-2013, 12:22 PM
From my perspective I place more of the blame on Gilbride and Reese then anyone else...I've been angry at Gilbride since he started coaching here...he's been terrible for his entire career here in my opinion, Reese had some unbelievable drafts early and then became god around here (In Reese we trust?) I never was "that" high on him although I can't deny those early drafts his last few he's just ignored our O-line and some other weaknesses that should have been addressed.

on Eli, I'm not mad at Eli...Eli throws int's always has, he tries to do too much but that said there is still no other QB I'd rather have in a clutch situation, when he is on he is money and those Int's are TD's instead and he can single handedly win games for us...he has 2 SB MVP's and I don't know if you know or not but the way most teams rate QB's nowadays is whether they have the ability to take a team to and win a SB...well Eli does...he's done it and he wasnt just "along for the ride" he was a HUGE portion of why we won both SB's

so am I angry at the giants performance...yeah a little, but the persons responsible for this **** (in my opinion) are the same people that I've been angry at for 5-6+ years even while we were winning SB's...Gilbride sucks has always sucked and Eli just isn't bailing him out this year.

Here's what worries me. Eli hasn't been clutch this year. What if he's lost it? A non clutch Eli is pretty pedestrian. A non clutch Eli is NOT worth 20 million salary cap space.

JPizzack
10-15-2013, 12:23 PM
From my perspective I place more of the blame on Gilbride and Reese then anyone else...I've been angry at Gilbride since he started coaching here...he's been terrible for his entire career here in my opinion, Reese had some unbelievable drafts early and then became god around here (In Reese we trust?) I never was "that" high on him although I can't deny those early drafts his last few he's just ignored our O-line and some other weaknesses that should have been addressed.

on Eli, I'm not mad at Eli...Eli throws int's always has, he tries to do too much but that said there is still no other QB I'd rather have in a clutch situation, when he is on he is money and those Int's are TD's instead and he can single handedly win games for us...he has 2 SB MVP's and I don't know if you know or not but the way most teams rate QB's nowadays is whether they have the ability to take a team to and win a SB...well Eli does...he's done it and he wasnt just "along for the ride" he was a HUGE portion of why we won both SB's

so am I angry at the giants performance...yeah a little, but the persons responsible for this **** (in my opinion) are the same people that I've been angry at for 5-6+ years even while we were winning SB's...Gilbride sucks has always sucked and Eli just isn't bailing him out this year.

Well said....

Who were they rumoring a possible OC replacement last week? i forget...

Morehead State
10-15-2013, 12:24 PM
Well said....

Who were they rumoring a possible OC replacement last week? i forget...
And another thing about TC staying. If he does....even if they convince him to fire both coordinators, we can only draw from position coaches and no current coordinators.