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gmen0820
02-19-2014, 03:19 PM
To be honest I hadnt seen the structure of the contract, its not as bad as I thought. But your contradicting yourself Greg. You say the 2.5 mill is commensurate to his production this year, then youre saying hes worth the 45 mill. Or are you saying hes worth the 15.5 hes guaranteed? If thats the case, I agree. It's not contradictory at all. I stand by everything I've said as they're all mutually exclusive assessments.

Cruz's 2.5 million dollars, while relatively low, is somewhat fair considering he didn't even hit 1K. Not a lot of money, not a lot of production. That's not to rationalize his performance, it's just to point out that we didn't get ripped off in year 1.

The 45 million means nothing to me. If Cruz sees every penny of that deal, he'll be worth it. Just like if Shawn Andrews saw every penny of his NYG deal, he'd have been worth it, too.

The 15.5 he's guaranteed makes it a sound signing. If Cruz ****s the bed next year and the Giants cut ties, they'll save money overall (though it'd be worth going to year 3 unless Cruz gets significantly injured this season).


And are you trying to convince me that since Nicks had 3 more catches and 200 more yards he wasnt as terrible as the previous year, give me those 3 tds over those 3 catches and 200 yards any day.Take whichever you'd like. It's really an irrelevant point to my argument. Nicks improved statistically in every category except for TDs. But like 2012, he struggled to get open, and was generally ineffective vs. single or double teams.

Overall, though, it's Cruz who's the topic of conversation. And as you saw by the numbers, it's a fairly low-risk deal with a lot of upside for all parties involved.

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 03:19 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JcqDsDHYaIU/UwQQHIWpLfI/AAAAAAAA2gs/n42o7pJve7M/s800/kateuptononceball.JPG

Yes, this is your level of expertise. Looking up half naked photos of Kate Upton and or women in general.
Stay in that vicinity, please.

dezzzR
02-19-2014, 03:22 PM
It's not contradictory at all. I stand by everything I've said as they're all mutually exclusive assessments.

Cruz's 2.5 million dollars, while relatively low, is somewhat fair considering he didn't even hit 1K. Not a lot of money, not a lot of production. That's not to rationalize his performance, it's just to point out that we didn't get ripped off in year 1.

The 45 million means nothing to me. If Cruz sees every penny of that deal, he'll be worth it. Just like if Shawn Andrews saw every penny of his NYG deal, he'd have been worth it, too.

The 15.5 he's guaranteed makes it a sound signing. If Cruz ****s the bed next year and the Giants cut ties, they'll save money overall (though it'd be worth going to year 3 unless Cruz gets significantly injured this season).

Take whichever you'd like. It's really an irrelevant point to my argument. Nicks improved statistically in every category except for TDs. But like 2012, he struggled to get open, and was generally ineffective vs. single or double teams.

Overall, though, it's Cruz who's the topic of conversation. And as you saw by the numbers, it's a fairly low-risk deal with a lot of upside for all parties involved.

If its irrelevant to your argument, why bring it up?

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 03:24 PM
If its irrelevant to your argument, why bring it up?

Because you mentioned it first, duh.

dezzzR
02-19-2014, 03:26 PM
Yes, this is your level of expertise. Looking up half naked photos of Kate Upton and or women in general.
Stay in that vicinity, please.Not a big fan of hers, she has no butt. But those tatas in zero gravity look nice.

dont be jealy.

dezzzR
02-19-2014, 03:28 PM
It's not contradictory at all. I stand by everything I've said as they're all mutually exclusive assessments.

Cruz's 2.5 million dollars, while relatively low, is somewhat fair considering he didn't even hit 1K. Not a lot of money, not a lot of production. That's not to rationalize his performance, it's just to point out that we didn't get ripped off in year 1.

The 45 million means nothing to me. If Cruz sees every penny of that deal, he'll be worth it. Just like if Shawn Andrews saw every penny of his NYG deal, he'd have been worth it, too.

The 15.5 he's guaranteed makes it a sound signing. If Cruz ****s the bed next year and the Giants cut ties, they'll save money overall (though it'd be worth going to year 3 unless Cruz gets significantly injured this season).

Take whichever you'd like. It's really an irrelevant point to my argument. Nicks improved statistically in every category except for TDs. But like 2012, he struggled to get open, and was generally ineffective vs. single or double teams.

Overall, though, it's Cruz who's the topic of conversation. And as you saw by the numbers, it's a fairly low-risk deal with a lot of upside for all parties involved.Im still not crazy about giving a slot wr close to 9 million a year. But thats just my opinion...

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 03:32 PM
If its irrelevant to your argument, why bring it up?Because one of your biggest reasons for Cruz being overpaid, which you've hopefully now reconsidered since you actually took a look at the contract's structure, was Nicks drawing double coverage.

And like I said before:
-Every WR benefits from a dominant presence on the other side of the field.
-Cruz had huge games without Nicks, too.
-Nicks was not getting many double teams in 2012; he was effectively handled with single coverage, sometimes even by safeties.
-Despite Nicks' improvements in 2013 with health and statistics, Cruz still regressed, which dampens any sort of causal dependence you may have wished to demonstrate. Furthermore, it goes to show that the premise that Cruz needed a dominant outside receiver to put up his 2012 stat line is false, because, well, Nicks wasn't dominant nor commanding double teams with any regularity in 2012.

But it's irrelevant now because you've actually seen the numbers and realize that Cruz's deal is actually a 3 year, 18-20 million dollar deal that requires him to play at a very high level in order to see all the money. His contract has been the focal point of the discussion, and its viability has been the crux of my argument.

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 03:33 PM
Not a big fan of hers, she has no butt. But those tatas in zero gravity look nice.

dont be jealy.

There's nothing to be jealous about.

Morehead State
02-19-2014, 03:35 PM
Because one of your biggest reasons for Cruz being overpaid, which you've hopefully now reconsidered since you actually took a look at the contract's structure, was Nicks drawing double coverage.

And like I said before:
-Every WR benefits from a dominant presence on the other side of the field.
-Cruz had huge games without Nicks, too.
-Nicks was not getting many double teams in 2012; he was effectively handled with single coverage, sometimes even by safeties.
-Despite Nicks' improvements in 2013 with health and statistics, Cruz still regressed, which dampens any sort of causal dependence you may have wished to demonstrate. Furthermore, it goes to show that the premise that Cruz needed a dominant outside receiver to put up his 2012 stat line is false, because, well, Nicks wasn't dominant nor commanding double teams with any regularity in 2012.

But it's irrelevant now because you've actually seen the numbers and realize that Cruz's deal is actually a 3 year, 18-20 million dollar deal that requires him to play at a very high level in order to see all the money. His contract has been the focal point of the discussion, and its viability has been the crux of my argument.
Cruz' worst game last season (2 catches 27 yards) came in the one game that Nicks didn't play.

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 03:36 PM
Cruz' worst game last season (2 catches 27 yards) came in the one game that Nicks didn't play.So what are you suggesting?

dezzzR
02-19-2014, 03:44 PM
Because one of your biggest reasons for Cruz being overpaid, which you've hopefully now reconsidered since you actually took a look at the contract's structure, was Nicks drawing double coverage.

And like I said before:
-Every WR benefits from a dominant presence on the other side of the field.
-Cruz had huge games without Nicks, too.
-Nicks was not getting many double teams in 2012; he was effectively handled with single coverage, sometimes even by safeties.
-Despite Nicks' improvements in 2013 with health and statistics, Cruz still regressed, which dampens any sort of causal dependence you may have wished to demonstrate. Furthermore, it goes to show that the premise that Cruz needed a dominant outside receiver to put up his 2012 stat line is false, because, well, Nicks wasn't dominant nor commanding double teams with any regularity in 2012.

But it's irrelevant now because you've actually seen the numbers and realize that Cruz's deal is actually a 3 year, 18-20 million dollar deal that requires him to play at a very high level in order to see all the money. His contract has been the focal point of the discussion, and its viability has been the crux of my argument.
No, my biggest reason was I dont think any slot wr is worth that much, but ill fuks with you.
He had two good games against the Browns and a terrible Eagles secondary without Nicks.
I disagree that he wasnt being doubled in 2012, and I completely disagree that Nicks had a better 13 than 12.

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 03:45 PM
No, my biggest reason was I dont think any slot wr is worth that much, but ill fuks with you.
He had two good games against the Browns and a terrible Eagles secondary without Nicks.
I disagree that he wasnt being doubled in 2012, and I completely disagree that Nicks had a better 13 than 12.I really have no interest in arguing about Nicks.

How much do you think Cruz deserved? What, as a slot receiver, is he worth?

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 04:06 PM
I really have no interest in arguing about Nicks.

How much do you think Cruz deserved? What, as a slot receiver, is he worth?

I think he's reasonably paid....the guaranteed $ is good for the Giants....and should he hit the bonuses, i think we wont argue the production if we're winning. =]

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 04:08 PM
I think he's reasonably paid....the guaranteed $ is good for the Giants....and should he hit the bonuses, i think we wont argue the production if we're winning. =]Yup, the guaranteed money makes it a very economical deal for us.

And yeah, if he sees those 7-9 million dollar base salaries in years 3, 4, and 5 -- more power to him.

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 04:09 PM
Yup, the guaranteed money makes it a very economical deal for us.

And yeah, if he sees those 7-9 million dollar base salaries in years 3, 4, and 5 -- more power to him.

YUUUUUUPPPPP!!!

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 05:48 PM
YUUUUUUPPPPP!!!YUUUUPPPP!!!

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 05:49 PM
YUUUUPPPP!!!

"DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?!?!"

Laurah1275
02-19-2014, 06:26 PM
Hello all, what's going on?
I'm a proud mama...my daughter got an academic scholarship to the HS of our choice, YEAH BABY! Saved me some major $$$

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 06:36 PM
Hello all, what's going on?
I'm a proud mama...my daughter got an academic scholarship to the HS of our choice, YEAH BABY! Saved me some major $$$

noice. congrats yo

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 06:38 PM
Hello all, what's going on?
I'm a proud mama...my daughter got an academic scholarship to the HS of our choice, YEAH BABY! Saved me some major $$$

Forgot your daughter went to a private school.
Congrats, that's awesome!

Drez
02-19-2014, 06:40 PM
Hello all, what's going on?
I'm a proud mama...my daughter got an academic scholarship to the HS of our choice, YEAH BABY! Saved me some major $$$'Gratz.

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 06:42 PM
Did you guys know that Laurah is my biggest fan? I mean, I'm sure you could all tell already. Her and I...we're cool...we're cool...

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 06:45 PM
Did you guys know that Laurah is my biggest fan? I mean, I'm sure you could all tell already. Her and I...we're cool...we're cool...
ew

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 06:49 PM
ew

listen, woman.....she can have her fav. chick, you...and her favorite dude, me.....don't hate, aight...

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 06:51 PM
listen, woman.....she can have her fav. chick, you...and her favorite dude, me.....don't hate, aight...

I don't give a **** about Laurah favoriting me.

I thought I was your favorite? I thought I was your first, your last...your everything?

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 06:52 PM
That's ok, I'll make my own favorite list. AND YOU'RE NOT INCLUDED.

FAVORITES.

1. jomo
2... ****

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 06:56 PM
I don't give a **** about Laurah favoriting me.

I thought I was your favorite? I thought I was your first, your last...your everything?

well that escalated quickly. lol

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 06:57 PM
well that escalated quickly. lol

WE LIKE THE SAME TYPE OF MUSIC.



......WE LIKE JAY-Z.



WE WERE MEANT FOR EACH OTHER.

Laurah1275
02-19-2014, 07:11 PM
well that escalated quickly. lol
LMAO! ;)

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 07:18 PM
LMAO! ;)

Mom, I am appalled at you.

Laurah1275
02-19-2014, 07:38 PM
Mom, I am appalled at you.

Hush honey, I love you both deeply!
Soft kitty, warm kitty....you know the rest :)

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 07:46 PM
WE LIKE THE SAME TYPE OF MUSIC.



......WE LIKE JAY-Z.



WE WERE MEANT FOR EACH OTHER.

Listen.....I'm just really not emotionally available right now....it's not you it's me? idk what other cliche things I can put here to sound terrible =P

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 07:58 PM
White bean chicken chili for dinner, mothafunkaaaaaaa

dezzzR
02-19-2014, 08:02 PM
Careful Pizz, one disagreement and Rudey will throw you to the curb

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 08:07 PM
Careful Pizz, one disagreement and Rudey will throw you to the curb

ha! it occurred to me that she might have a different view of the relationships of people in THEE Thread....if I can't tell some to kindly GO **** THEMSELVES, then I don't want to talk to them at all.....must be a NY thing...idk

dezzzR
02-19-2014, 08:12 PM
Hey B, did you catch any of the dog show last week? Did you see how fat that black lab was? Ridiculous...

Ughh, anyone of our dogs would have smoked him.

Laurah1275
02-19-2014, 08:12 PM
ha! it occurred to me that she might have a different view of the relationships of people in THEE Thread....if I can't tell some to kindly GO **** THEMSELVES, then I don't want to talk to them at all.....must be a NY thing...idk

Real Talk!

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 08:39 PM
Careful Pizz, one disagreement and Rudey will throw you to the curb
I love you.

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 08:39 PM
ha! it occurred to me that she might have a different view of the relationships of people in THEE Thread....if I can't tell some to kindly GO **** THEMSELVES, then I don't want to talk to them at all.....must be a NY thing...idk

Omg I'm kidding >.>


<.<

JPizzack
02-19-2014, 08:52 PM
Omg I'm kidding >.>


<.<

so am I.....well, except the last part.

and way to respond to me on FB after YOU messaged me >.> >.< <.<

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:13 PM
so am I.....well, except the last part.

and way to respond to me on FB after YOU messaged me >.> >.< <.<

What are ye blabberin' about?

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 09:15 PM
Hey B, did you catch any of the dog show last week? Did you see how fat that black lab was? Ridiculous...

Ughh, anyone of our dogs would have smoked him.My dog would smoke your dog.

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1004998_10152017192359276_1850389380_n.jpg

byron
02-19-2014, 09:16 PM
Hey B, did you catch any of the dog show last week? Did you see how fat that black lab was? Ridiculous...

Ughh, anyone of our dogs would have smoked him. no man I didn't... been busy as hell trying to keep with the snow and break downs...our biggest "Bud" he's like 85lbs no fat.....he went around me one day with the hook out running to greet someone put me right on my ***...lol... wasn't funny at the time

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:17 PM
My dog would smoke your dog.

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1004998_10152017192359276_1850389380_n.jpg

My baby

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:17 PM
no man I didn't... been busy as hell trying to keep with the snow and break downs...our biggest "Bud" he's like 85lbs no fat.....he went around me one day with the hook out running to greet someone put me right on my ***...lol... wasn't funny at the time

Byron, send me puppies.

byron
02-19-2014, 09:19 PM
My dog would smoke your dog.

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1004998_10152017192359276_1850389380_n.jpg ha cute....is he one of those that have no fear

byron
02-19-2014, 09:21 PM
Byron, send me puppies. we have black coming due in about a week... Zoe

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 09:23 PM
ha cute....is he one of those that have no fearNo he's a puss, lol.

But you know he's got that protective instinct deep within him. I took him outside once, and we have deep ivy patches in our front yard. A few kids were walking by, and I don't know if he thought they were dangerous but with reckless abandon he ran right through the ivy patches and started jumping on the kids, lol.

byron
02-19-2014, 09:29 PM
No he's a puss, lol.

But you know he's got that protective instinct deep within him. I took him outside once, and we have deep ivy patches in our front yard. A few kids were walking by, and I don't know if he thought they were dangerous but with reckless abandon he ran right through the ivy patches and started jumping on the kids, lol. haha I can see that man

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:30 PM
Did you guys see that Ray Rice video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyMuLGXxTs#t=75

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:31 PM
we have black coming due in about a week... Zoe
......lmao it's ironic.

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:32 PM
My dog knew how to ride a skateboard, he was quite good.

I miss you, Maxx.

byron
02-19-2014, 09:34 PM
......lmao it's ironic. no sure what you mean

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:42 PM
no sure what you mean
nothing.


yeah send me some huskies.

dezzzR
02-19-2014, 09:49 PM
My dog would smoke your dog.

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1004998_10152017192359276_1850389380_n.jpg

Is that a chew toy?

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:49 PM
I knew dezz was going to come up with some dumbass **** to call your dog.

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 09:50 PM
Is that a chew toy?Yeah, he'll chew your face off of your face.

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 09:50 PM
**** wit it

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 09:53 PM
No classes tomorrow. Turn up.

gmen0820
02-19-2014, 09:55 PM
No classes tomorrow. Turn up.I have one that I need to attend. I've cut all but one class all week, so...

byron
02-19-2014, 09:58 PM
nothing.


yeah send me some huskies. Zoe is beautiful I'll have some pics

dezzzR
02-19-2014, 10:02 PM
Yeah, he'll chew your face off of your face.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/jack-black-kick-baxter-anchorman.gif

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 10:09 PM
I have one that I need to attend. I've cut all but one class all week, so...
LOL don't do that!!

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 10:09 PM
Zoe is beautiful I'll have some pics

I wanna seeee!!

byron
02-19-2014, 10:22 PM
here go's Zoe is on the left Rocks o the right


https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1520714_684177531603950_1360150984_n.jpg


https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/l/t1/1912116_699471593407877_1034601431_n.jpg




when are they going to fix this board !

Rudyy
02-19-2014, 10:51 PM
here go's Zoe is on the left Rocks o the right


https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1520714_684177531603950_1360150984_n.jpg


https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/l/t1/1912116_699471593407877_1034601431_n.jpg




when are they going to fix this board !Aw she's a cutie pie!

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 08:54 AM
Aw she's a cutie pie!
I'm proposing that no one should respond to Rudy until she dumps that hideous sig......

JPizzack
02-20-2014, 10:16 AM
I'm proposing that no one should respond to Rudy until she dumps that hideous sig......

luckily i dont have to see it while at work....but when i get home? /cringe!

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 10:31 AM
hmmm its like spring outside.

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 10:34 AM
I'm proposing that no one should respond to Rudy until she dumps that hideous sig......

As you wish.

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 10:40 AM
Nicks has joined Gayz ****fellas nation sports.

Seeeeeee yaa.

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 10:42 AM
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1958044_584011498347272_864642385_n.jpg

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 11:36 AM
Im willing to make a compromise with Rude. If you put the whole picture up it will be acceptable.

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 11:48 AM
As you wish.
.............

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 11:53 AM
.............
"..........." Is not ignoring me. You may not be exchanging dialect, but you're still addressing me.




Just give up before this gets any funnier.

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 11:53 AM
Im willing to make a compromise with Rude. If you put the whole picture up it will be acceptable.

With Kate Upton? Lol no. The best part of the picture is in my signature!

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 11:54 AM
With Kate Upton? Lol no.

I knew youd be too stubborn. Thats why this country is in the state it is. People like you unwilling to compromise.

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 11:55 AM
I have a meeting with these people. Huge job. So antsy. Im gonna crush it!

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 11:58 AM
I have a meeting with these people. Huge job. So antsy. Im gonna crush it!

Good luck, I guess.

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 11:59 AM
"..........." Is not ignoring me. You may not be exchanging dialect, but you're still addressing me.




Just give up before this gets any funnier.
%$#&#@*&$

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 12:02 PM
%$#&#@*&$
That's what I thought.

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 12:07 PM
I want to be an Industrial/Organizational Psychologist

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 12:24 PM
I want to be an Industrial/Organizational Psychologist
I want to be.......

http://www.300guitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/044-274x300.jpg

Brian Setzer.......

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 12:33 PM
I want to be.......

http://www.300guitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/044-274x300.jpg

Brian Setzer.......I thought you were ignoring me???!?!?!?!?


nice guitar.

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 01:18 PM
I thought you were ignoring me???!?!?!?!?


nice guitar.
You're like a horrific, fiery crash with dead and disfigured bodies.............I can't look away!

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 01:35 PM
Good luck, I guess.
Thanks, I slayed it. Nice people.


I mean......Im not talking to you.

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 01:36 PM
You're like a horrific, fiery crash with dead and disfigured bodies.............I can't look away!
What the hell, you couldn't pick a better analogy?



Sheesh lol.

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 01:36 PM
Thanks, I slayed it. Nice people.


I mean......Im not talking to you.Mhmmm.

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 01:38 PM
I want to be.......

http://www.300guitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/044-274x300.jpg

Brian Setzer.......

Hes from LI.

Laurah1275
02-20-2014, 02:20 PM
Sup?

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 02:23 PM
Hes from LI.
No one's perfect.

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 04:35 PM
No one's perfect.

I dont know.....Tom Coughlin is pretty perfect...

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 04:40 PM
I dont know.....Tom Coughlin is pretty perfect...
Blow me.

JPizzack
02-20-2014, 05:07 PM
Blow me.

below me

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 05:54 PM
*Yawns*

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 07:25 PM
Is someone talking ?

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 07:40 PM
Is someone talking ?

Obviously not, dumbass.

dezzzR
02-20-2014, 08:49 PM
Watch your mouth you little snot.

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 08:53 PM
Watch your mouth you little snot.

No.

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 09:03 PM
No.
OK.....We've reached a low point on THEE thread.
Once mighty.....now relegated to this............

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 09:07 PM
OK.....We've reached a low point on THEE thread.
Once mighty.....now relegated to this............

Change is inevitable.

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 09:07 PM
Bow down

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 10:38 PM
Change is inevitable.
I suppose disintegration is a form of change.

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 10:41 PM
I suppose disintegration is a form of change.
Nothing is breaking here lol.
Stop being so grumpy all the time. Live a little.

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 10:56 PM
Nothing is breaking here lol.
Stop being so grumpy all the time. Live a little.
"Hey Mr Water.......Stop being wet!"......

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 10:57 PM
"Hey Mr Water.......Stop being wet!"......If I talked about baseball and golf all day, would you be less moody?

Morehead State
02-20-2014, 11:13 PM
If I talked about baseball and golf all day, would you be less moody?
I don't blame you.
The thread is just dying.

That friggin sig. ain't helpin though...Hahahaha!!!!!

Rudyy
02-20-2014, 11:19 PM
I don't blame you.
The thread is just dying.

That friggin sig. ain't helpin though...Hahahaha!!!!!

"Hahaha!!!!" That's not why I'm not taking it off "Hahahaha!!!!!"

Sarcasman
02-21-2014, 02:08 AM
OK. I read back,, man that was a lot of drivel to go through. I shan't do it again.

Congrats to Laurah, glad to hear dez's dad came through alright.

I love Tom Petty and he's better than Plaxico Jones who is better than ICP. And speaking of Plaxico, I really like the guitar sound on that track.

I thought the TP documentary was great. If you buy the DVD there's a bunch of stuff of them covering Hank Williams and John Sebastian, tremendous stuff.

And as far as THEE thread's deterioration is concerned, I'm sure it's just a slump.

Morehead State
02-21-2014, 08:19 AM
OK. I read back,, man that was a lot of drivel to go through. I shan't do it again.

Congrats to Laurah, glad to hear dez's dad came through alright.

I love Tom Petty and he's better than Plaxico Jones who is better than ICP. And speaking of Plaxico, I really like the guitar sound on that track.

I thought the TP documentary was great. If you buy the DVD there's a bunch of stuff of them covering Hank Williams and John Sebastian, tremendous stuff.

And as far as THEE thread's deterioration is concerned, I'm sure it's just a slump.
Just like Eli....

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 08:24 AM
OK. I read back,, man that was a lot of drivel to go through. I shan't do it again.

Congrats to Laurah, glad to hear dez's dad came through alright.

I love Tom Petty and he's better than Plaxico Jones who is better than ICP. And speaking of Plaxico, I really like the guitar sound on that track.

I thought the TP documentary was great. If you buy the DVD there's a bunch of stuff of them covering Hank Williams and John Sebastian, tremendous stuff.

And as far as THEE thread's deterioration is concerned, I'm sure it's just a slump.

Friend :)

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 08:30 AM
YAAAAAAOOOOO!!!!

Morehead State
02-21-2014, 08:32 AM
YAAAAAAOOOOO!!!!
...More evidence that our thread is dead.

I miss my Scrappy!!!!

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 08:33 AM
YAAAAAAOOOOO!!!!

Yo playa playa.

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 08:36 AM
...More evidence that our thread is dead.

I miss my Scrappy!!!!

youre the worst....

Morehead State
02-21-2014, 08:37 AM
youre the worst....

OK...that's a little better.....

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 08:49 AM
Yo playa playa.

heyo

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 08:49 AM
OK...that's a little better.....

glad to be of service.

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 10:09 AM
Just like Eli....

and Victor Cruz, and Hakeem Nicks, the whole offensive line expect Pugh.

Booooo this man!

Morehead State
02-21-2014, 10:12 AM
and Victor Cruz, and Hakeem Nicks, the whole offensive line expect Pugh.

Booooo this man!
I thought Cruz was fine this year. I also thought Nicks wasn't as bad as some suggest.

You confuse performance with productivity. The WR's productivity was down. Eli's play was just bad all year.

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 10:35 AM
I thought Cruz was fine this year. I also thought Nicks wasn't as bad as some suggest.

You confuse performance with productivity. The WR's productivity was down. Eli's play was just bad all year.
Youre delusional. 4tds, 3 of which came in one game is "fine"? Our best WR had zero tds, that isnt bad?

Performance, productivity, you can call it what you like.

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 10:39 AM
I don't blame you.
The thread is just dying.

That friggin sig. ain't helpin though...Hahahaha!!!!!
No its not, its growing if anything

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 10:39 AM
OK. I read back,, man that was a lot of drivel to go through. I shan't do it again.

Congrats to Laurah, glad to hear dez's dad came through alright.

I love Tom Petty and he's better than Plaxico Jones who is better than ICP. And speaking of Plaxico, I really like the guitar sound on that track.

I thought the TP documentary was great. If you buy the DVD there's a bunch of stuff of them covering Hank Williams and John Sebastian, tremendous stuff.

And as far as THEE thread's deterioration is concerned, I'm sure it's just a slump.
Thanks

Morehead State
02-21-2014, 10:59 AM
Youre delusional. 4tds, 3 of which came in one game is "fine"? Our best WR had zero tds, that isnt bad?

Performance, productivity, you can call it what you like.
His numbers were down because the offense sucked.
His play was just fine.
Just like Larry Fitz in 2012. The QB's were horrible so his productivity was way down. Guess what?...It was the same Larry Fitz he's always been.
With decent QB play in 2013 his numbers were back up.

The fact that you don't get this is troubling.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 11:02 AM
His numbers were down because the offense sucked.
His play was just fine.
Just like Larry Fitz in 2012. The QB's were horrible so his productivity was way down. Guess what?...It was the same Larry Fitz he's always been.
With decent QB play in 2013 his numbers were back up.

The fact that you don't get this is troubling.
Why do you think I'm always mean to Dez?

Morehead State
02-21-2014, 11:09 AM
Why do you think I'm always mean to Dez?
Because you secretly love him?

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 11:12 AM
Because you secretly love him?

The real reason is because he says stupid things.
I mean you do too, but Dez accepts the insults I hurl at him.

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 11:21 AM
black ice all over the roads this morning here. it was COMPLETE chaos lol. I actually had fun in it, because the roads were essentially a solid sheet of ice so i felt like a rally driver lol.

it was all fun until i saw a school bus off the road. nobody on scene yet, so i stopped to make sure nobody was hurt, but it was all good. buses are like tanks, they just plow THROUGH the snow banks.

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 11:27 AM
His numbers were down because the offense sucked.
His play was just fine.
Just like Larry Fitz in 2012. The QB's were horrible so his productivity was way down. Guess what?...It was the same Larry Fitz he's always been.
With decent QB play in 2013 his numbers were back up.

The fact that you don't get this is troubling. Where did I say they cant bounce back next year? Why cant the same apply to Eli MH? You always have excuses for everyone else but Eli and TC.

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 11:31 AM
The real reason is because he says stupid things.
I mean you do too, but Dez accepts the insults I hurl at him.
Im a rabble rouser.

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 11:40 AM
Im a rabble rouser.

more like jabberjaw

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 12:34 PM
more like jabberjaw

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhut up pizz

MH's the jabberjaw.

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 12:41 PM
i went to go buy a pack of smokes, and some Monster, tand the freaking Smokes 4 Less place had a line to the door. I can't stand that place....it's like a meeting of the degs of society lol. People sending western union MOs...paying their cell phone bills....buying 10 scratch offs, picking their daily lotto numbers. people take forever....

Laurah1275
02-21-2014, 01:11 PM
Anyone doing anything good this weekend?

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:11 PM
Anyone doing anything good this weekend?
Bar/Club/Homework

Not sure about the order yet, lol. You?

Laurah1275
02-21-2014, 01:13 PM
i went to go buy a pack of smokes, and some Monster, tand the freaking Smokes 4 Less place had a line to the door. I can't stand that place....it's like a meeting of the degs of society lol. People sending western union MOs...paying their cell phone bills....buying 10 scratch offs, picking their daily lotto numbers. people take forever....

Very true....when your out and about, keep it moving people! Keep it moving!

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:18 PM
Who wants to have fun and interpret my confusing dream?
Anybody?

Laurah1275
02-21-2014, 01:25 PM
Who wants to have fun and interpret my confusing dream?
Anybody?Can't raise my hand fast enough!

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 01:26 PM
Who wants to have fun and interpret my confusing dream?
Anybody?

suuuure why not.

Laurah1275
02-21-2014, 01:27 PM
Bar/Club/Homework

Not sure about the order yet, lol. You?Bar, housework, shopping. Not sure which order yet.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:30 PM
OK

So, had a dream that my friend and I Laura went to this restaurant. I remember it being somewhat dark and intimate, as if we were on a date.
Anyway, shortly after we sit down, Laura gets up and walks away. I was like where are you going and she just gave me a look and left. I don't know where she went, but she never told me where she was going, what happened, just left.

I was confused, and pretty upset during the dream, but I didn't chase after her. I just kinda sat there being sad lol. I actually called her up after the dream and told her about it and she was laughing at it.

BigBlueBoricua
02-21-2014, 01:34 PM
did you use deodorant & mouthwash before the date in your dream??? This could have scared her away....lol !!!

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 01:34 PM
Are you keeping a secret of some kind from her?

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:36 PM
did you use deodorant & mouthwash before the date in your dream??? This could have scared her away....lol !!!

LOL

It wasn't really a date, we were just hanging out. But hopefully I did! In real life she'd be like wtf you smell lol.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:38 PM
Are you keeping a secret of some kind from her?
Mmmm..well one thing that's been bothering me is every time I go to see her, she ends up hanging out with her boyfriend.
Like, I'd go over her house because she would BEG me to come over. And when I go over there, we literally hang out for a couple of hours, and then it's adios! Her sisters go through the same thing with her. She just goes off with her boyfriend and it's like um......oh....well that's cool I guess lol.

I hope she didn't run off with her BF during the dream lol. He's really nice and stuff, and we hang out. She's just ..idk.

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 01:40 PM
Mmmm..well one thing that's been bothering me is every time I go to see her, she ends up hanging out with her boyfriend.
Like, I'd go over her house because she would BEG me to come over. And when I go over there, we literally hang out for a couple of hours, and then it's adios! Her sisters go through the same thing with her. She just goes off with her boyfriend and it's like um......oh....well that's cool I guess lol.

I hope she didn't run off with her BF during the dream lol. He's really nice and stuff, and we hang out. She's just ..idk.
Boom. youre subconsciously worried shell be mad at you if you called her out on it.
Your job is easyyyyy, give me a Phd. :)

BigBlueBoricua
02-21-2014, 01:41 PM
restaurant, dark, intimate, just the 2 of you....hhmmmm? That's a date...

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:43 PM
restaurant, dark, intimate, just the 2 of you....hhmmmm? That's a date...

Nah lol. I said it SEEMS like it, but it's not a date.
If it was a date, I'd be honest.

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 01:43 PM
Or youre jealous your friend is choosing another person over you.....take your pick.
oooooooooooooooor youre les and youre jealy

BigBlueBoricua
02-21-2014, 01:45 PM
means you are tired of her leavin you hangin when her boo shows up...

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:46 PM
[QUOTE=dezzzR;1080585]Well, you're on the right track lol.

Laurah1275
02-21-2014, 01:48 PM
I think it definitely has to do with her leaving you for her BF, and I say, call her out on it! It's fine that she hangs with her man, but when she says she wants to hang with you, I think it should be just you and her. I went through this same thing many a time, just tell her how you feel. She is your best friend so she should understand.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:49 PM
means you are tired of her leavin you hangin when her boo shows up...
I was thinking along the line of this.
It was just weird how it happened like that.
Dreams are like that sometimes.


Thanks errbody. You all are certified Psychologists now. Freud would be proud.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:50 PM
Or youre jealous your friend is choosing another person over you.....take your pick.
oooooooooooooooor youre les and youre jealy

Many of my friends have significant others. I don't care.
I guess I'm just tired of her saying she wants to hang out with me, and she abruptly chooses to chill with her boo thang instead.

And then complain that we never hang out LOL.

BigBlueBoricua
02-21-2014, 01:51 PM
have 6 shots of Patron, 3 beers and call me in the AM....feel better :)

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:52 PM
I think it definitely has to do with her leaving you for her BF, and I say, call her out on it! It's fine that she hangs with her man, but when she says she wants to hang with you, I think it should be just you and her. I went through this same thing many a time, just tell her how you feel. She is your best friend so she should understand.
Yeah, you're right.
I honestly didn't want to believe this (which is why I asked you guys lol for another perspective) but I guess it's obvious.
I tried talking to her about in the past, but I didn't really call her out. I would be like "So...are you and Patrick going to hang out for the rest of the night or..."

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 01:52 PM
have 6 shots of Patron, 3 beers and call me in the AM....feel better :)

I'll light a blunt instead.
I'll probably call her crying hysterically so she can feel bad.

Laurah1275
02-21-2014, 01:54 PM
This crap happens all the time...trust me, he will come and go from her life, but you will be there in the end.

BigBlueBoricua
02-21-2014, 02:02 PM
I'll light a blunt instead.
I'll probably call her crying hysterically so she can feel bad.

if you light a blunt, you'll need this pizza delivery guy !!!! crazy...

http://offbeat.topix.com/story/10553-watch-this-is-literally-the-best-pizza-delivery-guy-ever-omg-he-is-awesome

BigBlueBoricua
02-21-2014, 02:13 PM
Just saw on CNN that we now lead the W Olympics with 26 medals !!!!! yeah playah !!!!!

Morehead State
02-21-2014, 02:13 PM
Where did I say they cant bounce back next year? Why cant the same apply to Eli MH? You always have excuses for everyone else but Eli and TC.
He may bounce back.
but it was his PLAY that sucked. Not just his productivity.
He looked like a high school QB at times....even when he wasn't pressured.

BigBlueBoricua
02-21-2014, 02:18 PM
Many of my friends have significant others. I don't care.
I guess I'm just tired of her saying she wants to hang out with me, and she abruptly chooses to chill with her boo thang instead.

And then complain that we never hang out LOL.

why don't you just tell her that If you are coming over to hang, that she should not make plans with anyone else???? It's your girl time, and she should not have a problem with that. She can hang out with her boo any other time....:)

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 02:22 PM
Many of my friends have significant others. I don't care.
I guess I'm just tired of her saying she wants to hang out with me, and she abruptly chooses to chill with her boo thang instead.

And then complain that we never hang out LOL.

that's a huge problem with being single. people with SOs don't even understand the concept of boredom, or complainig when people dont hang out.
I get the same BS lines youre talking about from my friends. I have quite literally OPEN AVAILABILITY to hang out whenever so long as it doesnt interfere with work....i'm single....i have no obligations other than financial obligations. Yet they complain to me like IM the one who doesnt hang out. **** you, we both have phones. tell me where to go and i'll go! i dont even bother asking my friends more than once every other week if they wanna do something, because i get a flurry of NO's coming back at me lol. and do i care? not really....i'll be here when you wanna do something....just dont ***** to me like I'M the one inconveniencing you! lol

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 02:26 PM
my favorite one:
I'll ask my buddy,"Hey man, wanna grab some beers tonight and watch the game at the bar?"
Response,"no can do bud....date night on fridays =\ "

2 weeks later, text from him, at 9pm: "Meet me for boozing at 10 at so-and-so place!!"
"I can't, made plans already man..."
"Wtf, quit being such a ***** and just come out already!!"

riiiight....I'm the ***** because your gf has you whipped into date nights EVERY friday night, and I end up just making whatever plans come up on nights that are convenient for you...yeeeeeeaaaa about that....

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 02:51 PM
that's a huge problem with being single. people with SOs don't even understand the concept of boredom, or complainig when people dont hang out.
I get the same BS lines youre talking about from my friends. I have quite literally OPEN AVAILABILITY to hang out whenever so long as it doesnt interfere with work....i'm single....i have no obligations other than financial obligations. Yet they complain to me like IM the one who doesnt hang out. **** you, we both have phones. tell me where to go and i'll go! i dont even bother asking my friends more than once every other week if they wanna do something, because i get a flurry of NO's coming back at me lol. and do i care? not really....i'll be here when you wanna do something....just dont ***** to me like I'M the one inconveniencing you! lol
Thank you!!!

"Omg like we never hang out!!" Well geez, you have a phone. You have a Twitter account, a Facebook account, every account. I am easily accessible. I shouldn't be the only one making plans.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 02:54 PM
my favorite one:
I'll ask my buddy,"Hey man, wanna grab some beers tonight and watch the game at the bar?"
Response,"no can do bud....date night on fridays =\ "

2 weeks later, text from him, at 9pm: "Meet me for boozing at 10 at so-and-so place!!"
"I can't, made plans already man..."
"Wtf, quit being such a ***** and just come out already!!"

riiiight....I'm the ***** because your gf has you whipped into date nights EVERY friday night, and I end up just making whatever plans come up on nights that are convenient for you...yeeeeeeaaaa about that....
LOL that's so wrong. Or

Friend: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OMGZZZZZ I MISS YOUUUUUUUUU OMGOMGOMG LET'S HANG OUT ON SATURDAY?

Me: Hey! Yeah sure, what time?

Friend: Well um I have to go to my sister's dance recital from 8-10 AM, then I have to go to my brother's soccer game from 9 AM-11PM. Then my mom wanted me to do a thing with her from 12PM-3PM. Then I'm going to like 4 parties after that...So we can hangout between 8:00 PM-8:01 PM. Is that okay?

Me: Kill yourself please.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 02:55 PM
why don't you just tell her that If you are coming over to hang, that she should not make plans with anyone else???? It's your girl time, and she should not have a problem with that. She can hang out with her boo any other time....:)
I feel like if I did that, she'd be sooooo oblivious.

"What? What are you talking about? Hang out with who? What? Huh? Look, a butterfly!"

Like ugh..I guess you really have to know Laura in order to see why it's so difficult for me to tell her.

JPizzack
02-21-2014, 03:23 PM
LOL that's so wrong. Or

Friend: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY OMGZZZZZ I MISS YOUUUUUUUUU OMGOMGOMG LET'S HANG OUT ON SATURDAY?

Me: Hey! Yeah sure, what time?

Friend: Well um I have to go to my sister's dance recital from 8-10 AM, then I have to go to my brother's soccer game from 9 AM-11PM. Then my mom wanted me to do a thing with her from 12PM-3PM. Then I'm going to like 4 parties after that...So we can hangout between 8:00 PM-8:01 PM. Is that okay?

Me: Kill yourself please.

lmao....i get that one A LOT as my best friend is female...

in fact, I can bet that on Sunday afternoon I'll get a messsage that says "i miss you =\ " and she hasnt spoken to me in a week(no reason, just havent spoken). I'm sorry? I'm here...it's not my fault if you miss me lol

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 03:27 PM
Coughlin says "i am involved very much in" the offensive discussions. But said Mcadoo will "have final say" in play calling. - from Ebenezer Samuel ‪

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 03:30 PM
He may bounce back.
but it was his PLAY that sucked. Not just his productivity.
He looked like a high school QB at times....even when he wasn't pressured.

So youre saying Cruz play and Nicks play didnt suck? Youre nitpicking. If your play sucks, so does your productivity, if your productivity sucks, so does your play....
Its no wonder you drive people nuts.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 03:32 PM
lmao....i get that one A LOT as my best friend is female...

in fact, I can bet that on Sunday afternoon I'll get a messsage that says "i miss you =\ " and she hasnt spoken to me in a week(no reason, just havent spoken). I'm sorry? I'm here...it's not my fault if you miss me lol

Hahahahaha exactly.
Or "Why haven't we hung out? #sad :(" I usually respond, idk..why didn't we?

Morehead State
02-21-2014, 04:05 PM
So youre saying Cruz play and Nicks play didnt suck? Youre nitpicking. If your play sucks, so does your productivity, if your productivity sucks, so does your play....
Its no wonder you drive people nuts.
Cruz had 1000 yards in essentially 14 games. Nicks had 800 plus in 15 games.
All with a QB who threw 27 picks and a grand total of 18 TD's....In front of an O line that couldn't block me.

Yes...I think Cruz actually had a very good year and Nicks wasn't as bad as the anti-Nicks hater types would have you believe.

Rudyy
02-21-2014, 04:09 PM
Cruz had 1000 yards in essentially 14 games. Nicks had 800 plus in 15 games.
All with a QB who threw 27 picks and a grand total of 18 TD's....In front of an O line that couldn't block me.

Yes...I think Cruz actually had a very good year and Nicks wasn't as bad as the anti-Nicks hater types would have you believe.
You Nicks cutlists are special.

Sarcasman
02-21-2014, 04:30 PM
Just like Eli....

You should write a song about it.

gmen0820
02-21-2014, 04:33 PM
Browns almost traded for Harbaugh? Whaaaaa

gmen0820
02-21-2014, 04:35 PM
I wonder if he would've poached SF's staff to fill out assistant positions had he actually OKed the trade. Very interesting, nonetheless.

Sarcasman
02-21-2014, 04:36 PM
Anyone doing anything good this weekend?

Daughter is home visiting (yay!), gig tonight AFTER a stop at my friend's dad's wake, funeral for my friend's Dad tomorrow, some work in there somewhere...

damn, if my daughter hadn't come home, this would be a completely crappy weekend!

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 04:56 PM
You should write a song about it.

HAAA!

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 05:01 PM
TC get a one year extension. Are ya mad or glad?

dezzzR
02-21-2014, 05:02 PM
Browns almost traded for Harbaugh? Whaaaaa

What was San Fran asking for?

alentown pa
02-21-2014, 08:31 PM
Anyone else pumped for baseball? The yanks made a lot of moves, I'm anxious to see how it pans out, I feel CC is the key he needs to be that 18 win low 3 era guy, if they are going to have a chance against Boston Makes me sick how the dodgers bailed them out and allowed such a fast turn around, you gotta give the sox credit for that, that was a great job by their whole organization last year.

gmen0820
02-21-2014, 08:42 PM
What was San Fran asking for?"Multiple draft picks." The deal was in place, but Harbaugh decided to stay with SF, presumably passing up the monstrous contract he's seeking.

Morehead State
02-22-2014, 09:14 AM
Anyone else pumped for baseball? The yanks made a lot of moves, I'm anxious to see how it pans out, I feel CC is the key he needs to be that 18 win low 3 era guy, if they are going to have a chance against Boston Makes me sick how the dodgers bailed them out and allowed such a fast turn around, you gotta give the sox credit for that, that was a great job by their whole organization last year.
I'm very happy to see the Yanks using the old methods that caused them to be marginal.

One would have thought they would have learned. I see a Sox repeat.

dezzzR
02-22-2014, 10:03 AM
I'm very happy to see the Yanks using the old methods that caused them to be marginal.

One would have thought they would have learned. I see a Sox repeat.

Of course you do. And youre wrong, normally Yanks like to trade away their farm system. They didnt do that this year. They added a good catcher, great lead off hitter, and our outfield is loaded with speed and guys that can hit, which also means we have guys that can DH. Starting pitching should be good as well. The only weak spot is the bullpen.

Morehead State
02-22-2014, 10:39 AM
Of course you do. And youre wrong, normally Yanks like to trade away their farm system. They didnt do that this year. They added a good catcher, great lead off hitter, and our outfield is loaded with speed and guys that can hit, which also means we have guys that can DH. Starting pitching should be good as well. The only weak spot is the bullpen.
More long term, burdensome contracts.
Personally.....I love it.
If you do too than we all win and how can that be a bad thing?

dezzzR
02-22-2014, 10:53 AM
More long term, burdensome contracts.
Personally.....I love it.
If you do too than we all win and how can that be a bad thing?
Tanaka was the only bad contract in my opinion. They may look long term but Yanks have shown they'll eat it if the player isnt producing. I told you they would eat AJ Burnetts contract, didnt I?

dezzzR
02-22-2014, 11:12 AM
Started watching True Detective last night, pretty good.

dezzzR
02-22-2014, 11:17 AM
The NFL is considering a new rule for 2014, which will penalize a team 15 yards for every time the "N-word" is used on the field.


"Ninja, whaaa"

Rudyy
02-22-2014, 01:02 PM
Hearing good things about Lewan. His 40 time was 4.84..among the fastest OL. Faster than Jake Matthews.

God, I really need to be the next Pam Oliver. This is ridiculous.

Drez
02-22-2014, 01:13 PM
Hearing good things about Lewan. His 40 time was 4.84..among the fastest OL. Faster than Jake Matthews.

God, I really need to be the next Pam Oliver. This is ridiculous.You should be the next Rudyy. This obsession you have with being someone else is not flattering.

Rudyy
02-22-2014, 01:16 PM
You should be the next Rudyy. This obsession you have with being someone else is not flattering.
I'm trying to be what Pam Oliver is doing. A sportscaster...I'm not actually trying to be HER lol.

Morehead State
02-22-2014, 02:41 PM
Hearing good things about Lewan. His 40 time was 4.84..among the fastest OL. Faster than Jake Matthews.

God, I really need to be the next Pam Oliver. This is ridiculous.
Big time character problems and its doubtful that we would draft him.

Pam Oliver would have known this.....Maybe you should stick to Queen Latifah.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/20/taylor-lewan-nfl-combine-2014/

Rudyy
02-22-2014, 02:45 PM
Big time character problems and its doubtful that we would draft him.

Pam Oliver would have known this.....Maybe you should stick to Queen Latifah.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/20/taylor-lewan-nfl-combine-2014/I never said we would draft him though.

Did I?

Rudyy
02-22-2014, 02:45 PM
Lol I win again.

So easy.

gmen0820
02-22-2014, 02:48 PM
Win what?

Rudyy
02-22-2014, 02:58 PM
Win what?

A nice hot plate of seafood alfredo.

dezzzR
02-22-2014, 03:01 PM
Big time character problems and its doubtful that we would draft him.

Pam Oliver would have known this.....Maybe you should stick to Queen Latifah.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/20/taylor-lewan-nfl-combine-2014/
I laughed.

Kase-1
02-22-2014, 08:23 PM
Whats going on folks, long time since Ive been in here. I see MH is back, good for him, now we all have to suffer not just his friends on facebook LOL. What are you guys hoping for this offseason??

Im hoping for us to resign Beason and Tuck, sign Asomoah from KC, and maybe pick someone like McFadden or Moreno up, Greg Robinson in the 1st, Maybe a WR or CB in the 2nd, TE or RB in the 3rd.

Morehead State
02-22-2014, 09:11 PM
Whats going on folks, long time since Ive been in here. I see MH is back, good for him, now we all have to suffer not just his friends on facebook LOL. What are you guys hoping for this offseason??

Im hoping for us to resign Beason and Tuck, sign Asomoah from KC, and maybe pick someone like McFadden or Moreno up, Greg Robinson in the 1st, Maybe a WR or CB in the 2nd, TE or RB in the 3rd.
I'm thinking we'll trade back..especially if one or more of the QB's are still available at 12 and someone wants one.
I would HATE McFad but would be all on board with Knowshow. (he did go to UGA which is a BIG negative though...Sorry Pizz))

And yes, I'm seeing at least one solid vet free agent and probably two or more. I think Alex Mack is a pipedream but a solid NFL Guard and/or center has to be a priority.

God I miss Ya Kase to talk about football. I

Kase-1
02-22-2014, 09:26 PM
I'm thinking we'll trade back..especially if one or more of the QB's are still available at 12 and someone wants one.
I would HATE McFad but would be all on board with Knowshow. (he did go to UGA which is a BIG negative though...Sorry Pizz))

And yes, I'm seeing at least one solid vet free agent and probably two or more. I think Alex Mack is a pipedream but a solid NFL Guard and/or center has to be a priority.

God I miss Ya Kase to talk about football. I

I only said McFadden because he's gonna be awfully cheap. Moreno would be great though, I have a soft spot for hometown players.

Mack is def a pipe dream at this point so im hoping for that Guard Asomoah from KC, maybe move Pugh to OG, and draft Greg Robinson as our new RT and once he gets the hang of things send him to LT.

My dream draft would be Robinson, Travis Swanson Center Arkansas, then Tre Mason in the 3rd

Morehead State
02-23-2014, 07:46 AM
I only said McFadden because he's gonna be awfully cheap. Moreno would be great though, I have a soft spot for hometown players.

Mack is def a pipe dream at this point so im hoping for that Guard Asomoah from KC, maybe move Pugh to OG, and draft Greg Robinson as our new RT and once he gets the hang of things send him to LT.

My dream draft would be Robinson, Travis Swanson Center Arkansas, then Tre Mason in the 3rd
I don't see Pugh anywhere but tackle. I know you love Beatty but I see Pugh eventually moving to LT, which is his natural position. He's not mauler enough for RT in the long run, nor RG.
Ultimately I don't think we'll sign Moreno or McFad. I think we'll sign someone like Toby Gerhart for less money.
But the key is the O line. And we are in big trouble at WR when Nicks leaves. Folks who are hating on him right now have no idea what kind of hole will be left in our passing attack. Guys like that are harder to replace than they think.

Morehead State
02-23-2014, 11:24 AM
Chris Capuano signing with the Sox is awesome. Good starting depth addition but more importantly grew up right down the street from here.

Sarcasman
02-23-2014, 02:02 PM
I'm very happy to see the Yanks using the old methods that caused them to be marginal.

One would have thought they would have learned. I see a Sox repeat.


LOL, this is like hearing Billy McGuire laugh at how fat his brother Benny is.

Kase-1
02-23-2014, 05:38 PM
I don't see Pugh anywhere but tackle. I know you love Beatty but I see Pugh eventually moving to LT, which is his natural position. He's not mauler enough for RT in the long run, nor RG.
Ultimately I don't think we'll sign Moreno or McFad. I think we'll sign someone like Toby Gerhart for less money.
But the key is the O line. And we are in big trouble at WR when Nicks leaves. Folks who are hating on him right now have no idea what kind of hole will be left in our passing attack. Guys like that are harder to replace than they think.

Im pretty sure his natural position was Guard and RT, look at those tiny little T-Rex arms, that has OG written all over it, if ya ask me.

Id LOVE for us to get Tre Mason, his dad was close friends with my buddys dad and is the founder of 1 of my favorite Hip Hop groups, De La Soul.

Im not stressing Nicks leaving, hell he was mentally gone since the start of last year, dude was a non factor this past season. My main focus is solidifying the OL for Eazy E, if we could sign someone like KC OG Jon Asomoah and either Center Brian De La Puente from NO or Evan Dietrich Smith from GB, then we would be looking GREAT compared to last season and we could focus on the skill positions and maybe draft someone like Eric Ebron or 1 of those badass WRs to give Eli a little extra ammo on the field

Morehead State
02-23-2014, 07:32 PM
Im pretty sure his natural position was Guard and RT, look at those tiny little T-Rex arms, that has OG written all over it, if ya ask me.

Id LOVE for us to get Tre Mason, his dad was close friends with my buddys dad and is the founder of 1 of my favorite Hip Hop groups, De La Soul.

Im not stressing Nicks leaving, hell he was mentally gone since the start of last year, dude was a non factor this past season. My main focus is solidifying the OL for Eazy E, if we could sign someone like KC OG Jon Asomoah and either Center Brian De La Puente from NO or Evan Dietrich Smith from GB, then we would be looking GREAT compared to last season and we could focus on the skill positions and maybe draft someone like Eric Ebron or 1 of those badass WRs to give Eli a little extra ammo on the field
Aren't hisarms the same length as Joe Thomas?
I see him as a LT eventually. Maybe not in 2014 but sometime in the future.

Imgrate
02-23-2014, 09:15 PM
I don't think you guys realize just how much cap space we could potentially have this offseason. If they extend rolle and eli, or cut rolle. Then cut snee kiwi and baas. We'd have about 35 mill

Kase-1
02-23-2014, 10:50 PM
Aren't hisarms the same length as Joe Thomas?
I see him as a LT eventually. Maybe not in 2014 but sometime in the future.

Who would know that?? Yes?? No?? Maybe??

Kase-1
02-23-2014, 10:53 PM
I don't think you guys realize just how much cap space we could potentially have this offseason. If they extend rolle and eli, or cut rolle. Then cut snee kiwi and baas. We'd have about 35 mill

If we were sitting on close to 40mil we could probably re-sign Tuck, Joseph and Beason in addition to a new OG like Jon Asamoah and a center like Brian De La Puente or Even Dietrich Smith. If we got that done we could look at all offensive skill positions in the 1st 3 rounds of the draft and possibly walk away with Ebron, Kelvin Benjamin AND Tre Mason

Morehead State
02-23-2014, 11:11 PM
If we were sitting on close to 40mil we could probably re-sign Tuck, Joseph and Beason in addition to a new OG like Jon Asamoah and a center like Brian De La Puente or Even Dietrich Smith. If we got that done we could look at all offensive skill positions in the 1st 3 rounds of the draft and possibly walk away with Ebron, Kelvin Benjamin AND Tre Mason
What Imgrate is not considering is that all that space isn't quite as important when you have half a team signed.

And I doubt we extend Eli. It would be a terrible move.

Imgrate
02-24-2014, 05:01 AM
What Imgrate is not considering is that all that space isn't quite as important when you have half a team signed.

And I doubt we extend Eli. It would be a terrible move.
We need to sign a good corner this offseason. We only have one. Sam shields is the guy I want

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 11:08 AM
I think Snee Tuck and Beason will be back. Doubt well get Nicks back, but it would be nice. Its going to be tough without him. Its nice having all that cap room for once. I agree with lawl, we need another corner.

JPizzack
02-24-2014, 11:13 AM
I think Snee Tuck and Beason will be back. Doubt well get Nicks back, but it would be nice. Its going to be tough without him. Its nice having all that cap room for once. I agree with lawl, we need another corner.

Nicks is gone, man.....harsh reality, but....yea, it's done.

Tuck I'd love to see for a few more years. I agree abotu Snee and beason definitely.

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 11:14 AM
Nicks is gone, man.....harsh reality, but....yea, it's done.

Tuck I'd love to see for a few more years. I agree abotu Snee and beason definitely.Absolutely not.

JPizzack
02-24-2014, 11:16 AM
Absolutely not.

2 more!

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 11:19 AM
2 more!

How about no more.

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 11:19 AM
Absolutely not.

Hes only 30 Rude. 2-3 year deal at least. If not from the Giants, somebody else.

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 11:22 AM
Hes only 30 Rude. 2-3 year deal at least. If not from the Giants, somebody else.

Then somebody else.

JPizzack
02-24-2014, 11:23 AM
Then somebody else.

lol someone woke up and drank their hateraid this morning!!

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 11:28 AM
lol someone woke up and drank their hateraid this morning!!

Not hating.
I don't think Tuck can sustain his level of play from last season.
I like Tuck, but I think he benefitted from having to play RG-Fail and so-so to bad QB's.
And not just him, but the entire defense.
Want to see DMoore instead.

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 11:31 AM
Then somebody else.

Dont be silly. Tucks good vs the run and can get to the QB when healthy and hes healthy. Hes also very versatile and can play anywhere on the line. Hes a vet and a leader, it would be in our best interest to have him back.

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 11:32 AM
Not hating.
I don't think Tuck can sustain his level of play from last season.
I like Tuck, but I think he benefitted from having to play RG-Fail and so-so to bad QB's.
And not just him, but the entire defense.
Want to see DMoore instead.
Ohhhh so now we were "playing soso to bad QBs". Where was this quote when you were praising Perry this year miss?

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 11:34 AM
Ohhhh so now we were "playing soso to bad QBs". Where was this quote when you were praising Perry this year miss?

Don't get me wrong, I think Perry did a better job with sending more than 3 guys to the QB, and letting them play to their strengths.
But again, stats don't tell the whole story. The teams we faced were just as bad or worse than us.

JPizzack
02-24-2014, 01:11 PM
I just get this text from my sister-in-law "I wish you and _____ would date... =\ "
and I'm like...."Oh...you mean MY UNICORN!?!?! YA THINK!?!?! You might be explaining this to the wrong person of the 2"

lol, it's one of her best friends, but I've never been quite comfortable asking her for help...but now that she threw it out there, and I've never told her of my interest....maybe that will help?? =O

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 01:19 PM
Egon died :(

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 01:22 PM
Egon died :(
I know!!

Morehead State
02-24-2014, 02:06 PM
I know!!
Your mentor is back to being obsessed with Morehead. Got a friggin thread closed for God's sake.

He's lost his friggin mind. Should I be worried? Is he my "Ray Finkle"?????

"Laces out Morehead you *******!!!!!!!"

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 02:11 PM
http://www.giants101.com/2014/02/22/new-york-giants-new-look-offense-not-entirely-west-coast-ben-mcadoo-will-calls-plays/

gmen0820
02-24-2014, 02:12 PM
http://www.giants101.com/2014/02/22/new-york-giants-new-look-offense-not-entirely-west-coast-ben-mcadoo-will-calls-plays/Oh, look at that. McAdoo will call the plays.

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 02:27 PM
Your mentor is back to being obsessed with Morehead. Got a friggin thread closed for God's sake.

He's lost his friggin mind. Should I be worried? Is he my "Ray Finkle"?????

"Laces out Morehead you *******!!!!!!!"
For challenging your opinion?

Morehead State
02-24-2014, 02:37 PM
For challenging your opinion?
For being obsessed with proving me wrong with lengthy rants akin to the Unibomber's Manifesto. Especially after the thread was essentially over.

Morehead State
02-24-2014, 02:38 PM
THIS is a great group.

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1380427_10200733088462699_1244719730_n.jpg

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 02:39 PM
http://www.giants101.com/2014/02/24/dallas-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-admits-new-york-giants-once-made-him-cry/

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 02:40 PM
For being obsessed with proving me wrong with lengthy rants akin to the Unibomber's Manifesto. Especially after the thread was essentially over.

How is it an obsession? He's replying to your thread.
Nothing wrong with that.

Morehead State
02-24-2014, 02:44 PM
How is it an obsession? He's replying to your thread.
Nothing wrong with that.
He already did 2 days before. We each gave our views and argued them out.
2 days later he launches this diatribe. Its fine...but its creepy.
I'm just sick of these dopes. I really am.
He's just the next in the line.

Rudyy
02-24-2014, 02:49 PM
He already did 2 days before. We each gave our views and argued them out.
2 days later he launches this diatribe. Its fine...but its creepy.
I'm just sick of these dopes. I really am.
He's just the next in the line.

He's not a dope.
He found something that supported his argument.
You seem to have great difficulty with people who challenge your opinions.
It's not obsessive. I don't even know how that relates.

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 02:58 PM
You seem to have great difficulty with people who challenge your opinions.

Welcome to the party, Rudy.

Drez
02-24-2014, 03:21 PM
Your mentor is back to being obsessed with Morehead. Got a friggin thread closed for God's sake.

He's lost his friggin mind. Should I be worried? Is he my "Ray Finkle"?????

"Laces out Morehead you *******!!!!!!!"Who's the one ranting in an unrelated thread about being wrong. Looks like you have the obsession there, MS.

Also, you got the thread closed by your pathological inability to act like an adult.

Drez
02-24-2014, 03:25 PM
He already did 2 days before. We each gave our views and argued them out.
2 days later he launches this diatribe. Its fine...but its creepy.
I'm just sick of these dopes. I really am.
He's just the next in the line.I'm the dope. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you went on a rant about how Coughlin "fired across the bow" of our new OC. I said that it was hogwash and you were letting your biases get the better of you. Earlier today (because an article was posted with all the quotes in one place), I posted the quotes that proved how absolutely out of control your bias was.

But, oh yes, I'm the one with the problem. Grow up, dude.

Drez
02-24-2014, 03:26 PM
For challenging your opinion?

Poor, Morehead. He's always the victim.

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 03:33 PM
So because you called each other obsessed the mods closed a thread. Mod C no doubt.....

Drez
02-24-2014, 03:35 PM
So because you called each other obsessed the mods closed a thread. Mod C no doubt.....

Probably. Or DH.

And MS was the only one calling anyone obsessed. I just called him biased not credible on the subject (which is this case is very true).

Instead of addressing what I posted, he decided to launch personal attacks which got the thread closed.

JPizzack
02-24-2014, 03:39 PM
He already did 2 days before. We each gave our views and argued them out.
2 days later he launches this diatribe. Its fine...but its creepy.
I'm just sick of these dopes. I really am.
He's just the next in the line.

I quite literally have NO sympathy for you. And I'm not even saying this from your personal experience of you arguing JUST to argue, or not being accepting of other's viewpoints....it's just that you just go LOOKING for it, and then for some reason complain about it. It's literally your own fault. So I can't possibly sympathize!

Drez
02-24-2014, 03:43 PM
I quite literally have NO sympathy for you. And I'm not even saying this from your personal experience of you arguing JUST to argue, or not being accepting of other's viewpoints....it's just that you just go LOOKING for it, and then for some reason complain about it. It's literally your own fault. So I can't possibly sympathize!It's like when your brother kicks you under the table and then cries when you smack him in the face.

Morehead State
02-24-2014, 04:23 PM
Poor, Morehead. He's always the victim.
I'm not a victim of anything. You're just another one of my suitors. Have no idea whay you are so obsessed with my opinions and you feel the need to launch in these endless diatribes trying to prove me wrong.
My claims about TC are my opinion. If you feel differently I think that's fine. But your clinging to my ankle like a terrier, rpeating the same thing over and over again is irritating.
Your view is fine with me. It seems mine burns at your core.

Morehead State
02-24-2014, 04:29 PM
I quite literally have NO sympathy for you. And I'm not even saying this from your personal experience of you arguing JUST to argue, or not being accepting of other's viewpoints....it's just that you just go LOOKING for it, and then for some reason complain about it. It's literally your own fault. So I can't possibly sympathize!
Why would I want anyone to sympathize?
What would you be sympathizing for?
I really have no idea what you're talking about.

Drez
02-24-2014, 04:35 PM
I'm not a victim of anything. You're just another one of my suitors. Have no idea whay you are so obsessed with my opinions and you feel the need to launch in these endless diatribes trying to prove me wrong.
My claims about TC are my opinion. If you feel differently I think that's fine. But your clinging to my ankle like a terrier, rpeating the same thing over and over again is irritating.
Your view is fine with me. It seems mine burns at your core.

You can have your opinion, but there is only one set of facts.

Everything you have said about TC is factually incorrect.

You're just acting like a baby. Grow up. You're in your 50's. Act it.

Morehead State
02-24-2014, 04:53 PM
You can have your opinion, but there is only one set of facts.

Everything you have said about TC is factually incorrect.

You're just acting like a baby. Grow up. You're in your 50's. Act it.
So when he said that the changes to the offense would be "subtle"....You are claiming never happened.
What you don't agree with is my interpretation of the facts. I see a guy who was challenged by the owner, who was required to replace his OC (he quit before he got fired, as if that's a significant fact) and who is in complete "cover my *** mode".
Thus the comments about "subtle" changes.
The comments you cited are pretty for the media but its clear to me that this change at OC was jammed down his throat against his will.

You are free to disagree but I'm certainly not going to obsess to prove you wrong. I stated my opinion. If you don't like it..to friggin bad.

dezzzR
02-24-2014, 05:00 PM
TC is certainly not in cover my *** mode. He just got a contract extension.

Morehead State
02-24-2014, 05:36 PM
TC is certainly not in cover my *** mode. He just got a contract extension.
He is very much in CMA mode.
it was a one year extension. Every other extension has been 3 or 4 years.
He will not be our HC for the 2015 season.
No way Mr. Mara was going to have him coach on the last year of his deal. He's said in the past that he would never do that.

he'll either be gone or in the FO after next year.

Drez
02-24-2014, 06:22 PM
So when he said that the changes to the offense would be "subtle"....You are claiming never happened.
What you don't agree with is my interpretation of the facts. I see a guy who was challenged by the owner, who was required to replace his OC (he quit before he got fired, as if that's a significant fact) and who is in complete "cover my *** mode".
Thus the comments about "subtle" changes.
The comments you cited are pretty for the media but its clear to me that this change at OC was jammed down his throat against his will.

You are free to disagree but I'm certainly not going to obsess to prove you wrong. I stated my opinion. If you don't like it..to friggin bad.
You only see it that way because you have a clear bias against Coughlin and it is clouding your judgement. He said the changes may be subtle. Do you honestly believe he's going to completely tip his hand? Hell, at this point they're still in the process of designing the new offense. And to that end, Coughlin has said that McAdoo has the final say in the direction of the offense. I'd question the intelligence of anyone that thought that TC would have nothing to do with the new offense and that we would just start running a clone of GBs.

So, again, you take the one comment that even remotely confirms your view and ignore everything else that refutes it. Talking to you is like talking to a conspiracy theorist. Confirmation bias abounds. Anything that refutes your position is disregarded as being a falsehood or part of the cover up. Your paranoia about people being "obsessed" with you fits the profile, too.

So, for the people that may not have been following along at home, here are all the statements that TC has made about McAdoo and the new offense. Does anyone else see anything here that makes it seem like TC is covering his arse or undermining McAdoo:

"As far as changes, they may be subtle... The No. 1 thing will be the players, the team, the opportunity to get ourselves back on track."

"We will maintain a commitment to the run," Coughlin said. "That will be a factor no matter what. That has been agreed upon by all."

"(McAdoo), interestingly enough, does not describe himself as West Coast," Coughlin said. "He thinks more in terms of the ball going vertical or down the field if the opportunities present themselves."

"I'm involved very much in it, as are all our coaches," he said, noting that McAdoo will have the final say on the offense's direction and on the play-calling aspect.

"It's a very good exchange right now because we're doing the best we can to meld a couple of systems, to discuss those types of things. Ben will have the final say on that and of course play-calling, but I'll be very much involved."

"It's stimulating. It's exciting," Coughlin said. "We're very new into the development of where we'll go and what our program will be, but it's a good time; it's an exciting time. I feel good about it."

First quote is from here: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304275304579397352416599102?mod=rs s_newyork_sports&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB1000 1424052702304275304579397352416599102.html%3Fmod%3 Drss_newyork_sports

The rest are from here: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1970288-new-york-giants-latest-combine-news-and-rumors#articles/1970288-new-york-giants-latest-combine-news-and-rumors/page/6