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Overdrive92
01-01-2013, 07:28 PM
I know our D-Line underperformed all year long, but here's a stat I just read that I had no idea...

...We're dead last in the league in sacks. Ummm...wow. Dead last. The team with the most sacks (the Cardinals) have almost triple the amount of sacks we had.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=DEFENSIVE_SACKS&tabSeq=2&season=2012&role=OPP&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=SACKS&qualified=false

KidA
01-01-2013, 07:30 PM
I hadn't heard that.

So much for our "vaunted pass rush". :rolleyes:

GoDeep80
01-01-2013, 07:30 PM
When that statistic is put next to the Giants, and any team for that matter, To think we had a chance at the playoffs is amazing.

Cloud57
01-01-2013, 07:38 PM
Our Dline is average (or below) It may take years to get a dominant pass rush again that's why we need to fix this secondary

ny06
01-01-2013, 07:39 PM
That is sacks given up. The Giants were ranked 22nd this season with 33 sacks. Denver & Rams were tied for 1st.

TroyArcher
01-01-2013, 07:40 PM
Giants were 22nd with 33 sacks. Three more than the Jets and Eagles. Very sad.

Drez
01-01-2013, 07:40 PM
Yeah, those are offensive stats. We only gave up 20 sacks.

quan the don
01-01-2013, 07:46 PM
LOL so this was actually a + stat

giantsfan420
01-01-2013, 08:07 PM
i believe the DL as a unit had the least sacks compared to other DL's. Dont think our team total was worst tho...I remember during one of the games the past month, the telecast displayed that stat about dl's and the commentators couldn't believe it and were discussing its effects. I know at one point the past 4 or 5 games, our DL had the fewest sacks by a DL league wide...

gmen46
01-01-2013, 08:07 PM
Giants were 22nd with 33 sacks. Three more than the Jets and Eagles. Very sad.

And 4 more than #1 seed Falcons.

And only 5 less than SF, 4 less than Patriots, Steelers, Ravens. Where you going with this?

We had 33 sacks, yes. Down quite a bit from last year, and down from what we are accustomed to, no question. And no surprise to any one watching Giants this year,.

But Rams had 52, Miami 42, Tennessee and Carolina 39. And where are they this weekend? Watching from their couch like us.

This only shows that sacks are a nice glamour stat, but in and of themselves are an overrated individual stat, as Reese himself admits.

We were also tied for 3rd most interceptions (21) behind Chicago and Arizone, and tied for 4th most fumble recoveries (14). We were 4th best in positive turnover ratio (+14).

These stats are at least as important--many argue more important--than simply sack totals. What's most important in evaluating the front 7 attack is the overall pressure on QBs--sacks, hurries, hits, knock downs. For the most part, the games we won we did well in all pressure areas, and the games we lost we did poorly in overall QB pressure. That's where the inconsistency hurt us, not the lower sack total per se.

gmen46
01-01-2013, 08:10 PM
Yeah, those are offensive stats. We only gave up 20 sacks.

Very offensive, yes. :mad:

Redeyejedi
01-01-2013, 08:12 PM
Why do u think Ive been so adamant about drafting a pass rusher all season. Tuck and Osi are done. Tuck went from being 2nd in pressures from 2008-2010 to never getting near the QB. Thats why this Defense isnt any good. We are a defense built on a pass rush with 1 quality pass rusher. I think we need 2 DE's or a speed rusher and an every down Strongside end to replace Tuck. Relying on the possible long shot emergence of Tracy or Ojomo is not a plan. Giants need to bring in as many high end defensive lineman as they possibly can

gmenfan0488
01-01-2013, 08:13 PM
Next year's draft, let's trade up for Clowney

giantsfan420
01-01-2013, 08:14 PM
i believe the DL as a unit had the least sacks compared to other DL's. Dont think our team total was worst tho...I remember during one of the games the past month, the telecast displayed that stat about dl's and the commentators couldn't believe it and were discussing its effects. I know at one point the past 4 or 5 games, our DL had the fewest sacks by a DL league wide...


now I believe this to be true I do recall it, but I could easily be incorrect or misheard. Anyways, what I remember thinking, at the time they were talking about it, that it explained an awful lot. especially why we were never stopping 3rd downs. i mean i cant remember a season we allowed teams to convert 3rd and 20plus's, it was disgusting. even on plays where 40 yards was needed ala the dallas hail mary, we were a finger tip away from giving that up! it just seemed like our DL was never getting home.

it got to the point when we do get a sack, im surprised and angry at the same time, "about damn time..." Its nothing like before where we'd get pressure and or a sack no ifs ands or buts on 3rd and 8s. maybe im being too nice even and just recalling the DL from the playoffs, i dunno. last year they werent their dominant selves outside JPP and a hurt Osi.


But yeah, id say itd be a strong reason we r nt in the playoffs, maybe the biggest reason.

ny06
01-01-2013, 08:16 PM
Next year's draft, let's trade up for Clowney
I've had my eye on him since he's been in South Carolina. Unless he gets injured he's going to be a top 3 pick in the draft. Maybe even 1st overall. I don't believe in trading the farm for a player, but I would consider doing that for Clowney.

giantsfan420
01-01-2013, 08:18 PM
id be all for drafting a DE, trading Tuck, and moving Kiwi...Seems harsh. If Tuck would be willing to be situational pass rusher, like this last game, then id keep him. awful lot of money for strictly that type of player. But I dunno if Kiwi would be good enough, imo he would, to be a starter. hes great vs the run and did lead the team in pressures one year. But JPP starts, Kiwi?, Tuck as the pass rushing specialist? I think we have to determine how we want to use Tuck. There was an article about Tuck having his best game f the year and he only played 26 snaps. Do we want him vs the run, or vs the pass? Dont think he can be great at both anymore. JPP can, Kiwi might, Tuck physically cant. He can do one or the other, not both imo. So I'd draft a guy 1rst ONLY if he can start day 1. otherwise I wait, move Kiwi, blend him with Tuck, and bring along the draft pick pass rush specialist wherever he's drafted

Toadofsteel
01-01-2013, 08:24 PM
That's all on Eli, not giving up those sacks. Unfortunately it also meant that he's throwing almost as many picks as Romo...

BParcells777
01-01-2013, 08:28 PM
we likely led the league in rushing only 4 also.........hmmmmmmmm could there be a relationship??

Redeyejedi
01-01-2013, 08:30 PM
we likely led the league in rushing only 4 also.........hmmmmmmmm could there be a relationship??Hard to blitz when your corners suck and the only deep safety misses half the season

wrek537emc
01-01-2013, 11:02 PM
is there a stat for our D allowing the opposing offense to convert on 3rd down? converted vs attempts ... and how many 4th down attempts were succeeded/attempted against our D? can anyone show those numbers & rank.. i think it could be very telling.