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RoanokeFan
01-02-2013, 11:03 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21501/giants-13-free-agent-list

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

T Will Beatty (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12610/will-beatty) -- Hard to find starting left tackles. Might be most important Giants free agent.
DE Osi Umenyiora (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/4514/osi-umenyiora) -- Won't rule out return but sounds ready to move on (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21486/osi-now-is-probably-time-to-move-on).
G Kevin Boothe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9762/kevin-boothe) -- Versatile and solid. Giants should bring him back.
TE Martellus Bennett (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11295/martellus-bennett) -- Should only get better but will another team offer more money?
S Kenny Phillips (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11265/kenny-phillips) -- Would like to see him back but for right price.
LB Chase Blackburn (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9289/chase-blackburn) -- Solid vet is an asset but is NYG ready to go with Mark Herzlich (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14262/mark-herzlich)?
LB Keith Rivers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11243/keith-rivers) -- When healthy, showed glimpses of speed and athleticism.
K Lawrence Tynes (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3413/lawrence-tynes) -- Best NFL kicker until shaky finish. Should still be re-signed.
DT Rocky Bernard (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3674/rocky-bernard) -- Cheap and reliable but Marvin Austin (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14025/marvin-austin) needs snaps.
WR Domenik Hixon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9716/domenik-hixon) -- Solid veteran provides depth and a punt returner.
TE Bear Pascoe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12548/bear-pascoe) -- Versatile and needed for blocking.
WR Ramses Barden (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12555/ramses-barden) -- Shined in start vs. CAR but didn't get many other opportunities.
QB David Carr (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3529/david-carr) -- Knows system and works well with Eli.
TE Travis Beckum (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12532/travis-beckum) -- Injuries hampered Giants career.
T Sean Locklear (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5609/sean-locklear) -- Great until suffering ugly knee injury.
CB Justin Tryon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11361/justin-tryon) -- Invite to camp?
RB Kregg Lumpkin (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11766/kregg-lumpkin) -- Saw some third-down duties.
RB Ryan Torain (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11362/ryan-torain) -- Didn't play much.
DT Shaun Rogers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2609/shaun-rogers) -- Blood clot kept him out of '12.
CB Brian Witherspoon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11909/brian-witherspoon) -- Has to come back from another ACL tear.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

WR Victor Cruz (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13553/victor-cruz) -- Time to pay the salsa.
S Stevie Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13321/stevie-brown) -- The surprise of 2012 could be starting safety next season.
RB Andre Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12490/andre-brown) -- On the mend after broken leg derailed best season.

EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS FREE AGENTS

DE Adrian Tracy (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13475/adrian-tracy) -- 'Yosi' (Young Osi) might see bigger role.
C Jim Cordle (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13551/jim-cordle) -- Good for depth/special teams.
DE Justin Trattou (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14673/justin-trattou) -- Giants like his potential.

Moke
01-02-2013, 11:07 AM
Most likely we'll keep Tynes, but I'd really like to see if we can get another kicker to try out....I know that's the least of concerns, but I'm just saying.

GiantPride13
01-02-2013, 11:15 AM
Resign: CRUZ (DUH!), S. Brown (Start at S), A. Brown (3/4 RB), Beatty (Starting LT) Boothe (OL depth), Bennett (Starting TE), KP (For Right Price (Brown/Rolle Start)), Blackburn & Rivers (LB Corp. Rotation), Locklear(OL Depth possible Starter), Lumpkin(4th RB), LT (reliable inside 45)


http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21501/giants-13-free-agent-list

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

T Will Beatty (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12610/will-beatty) -- Hard to find starting left tackles. Might be most important Giants free agent.
DE Osi Umenyiora (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/4514/osi-umenyiora) -- Won't rule out return but sounds ready to move on (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21486/osi-now-is-probably-time-to-move-on).
G Kevin Boothe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9762/kevin-boothe) -- Versatile and solid. Giants should bring him back.
TE Martellus Bennett (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11295/martellus-bennett) -- Should only get better but will another team offer more money?
S Kenny Phillips (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11265/kenny-phillips) -- Would like to see him back but for right price.
LB Chase Blackburn (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9289/chase-blackburn) -- Solid vet is an asset but is NYG ready to go with Mark Herzlich (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14262/mark-herzlich)?
LB Keith Rivers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11243/keith-rivers) -- When healthy, showed glimpses of speed and athleticism.
K Lawrence Tynes (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3413/lawrence-tynes) -- Best NFL kicker until shaky finish. Should still be re-signed.
DT Rocky Bernard (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3674/rocky-bernard) -- Cheap and reliable but Marvin Austin (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14025/marvin-austin) needs snaps.
WR Domenik Hixon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9716/domenik-hixon) -- Solid veteran provides depth and a punt returner.
TE Bear Pascoe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12548/bear-pascoe) -- Versatile and needed for blocking.
WR Ramses Barden (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12555/ramses-barden) -- Shined in start vs. CAR but didn't get many other opportunities.
QB David Carr (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3529/david-carr) -- Knows system and works well with Eli.
TE Travis Beckum (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12532/travis-beckum) -- Injuries hampered Giants career.
T Sean Locklear (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5609/sean-locklear) -- Great until suffering ugly knee injury.
CB Justin Tryon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11361/justin-tryon) -- Invite to camp?
RB Kregg Lumpkin (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11766/kregg-lumpkin) -- Saw some third-down duties.
RB Ryan Torain (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11362/ryan-torain) -- Didn't play much.
DT Shaun Rogers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2609/shaun-rogers) -- Blood clot kept him out of '12.
CB Brian Witherspoon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11909/brian-witherspoon) -- Has to come back from another ACL tear.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

WR Victor Cruz (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13553/victor-cruz) -- Time to pay the salsa.
S Stevie Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13321/stevie-brown) -- The surprise of 2012 could be starting safety next season.
RB Andre Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12490/andre-brown) -- On the mend after broken leg derailed best season.

EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS FREE AGENTS

DE Adrian Tracy (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13475/adrian-tracy) -- 'Yosi' (Young Osi) might see bigger role.
C Jim Cordle (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13551/jim-cordle) -- Good for depth/special teams.
DE Justin Trattou (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14673/justin-trattou) -- Giants like his potential.

Toadofsteel
01-02-2013, 11:39 AM
High priority:
V. Cruz
S. Brown
A. Brown
W. Beatty
M. Bennett
A. Tracy

The rest that I would resign (but not for too much)
K. Phillips
D. Hixon
K. Rivers
S. Locklear (only if he shows he can recover from that nasty injury though)
C. Blackburn
L. Tynes
J. Tryon (vet min, need to keep him on ST only, where he's very good)
S. Rogers
J. Cordle

The rest can scram...

RoanokeFan
01-02-2013, 11:43 AM
High priority:
V. Cruz
S. Brown
A. Brown
W. Beatty
M. Bennett
A. Tracy

The rest that I would resign (but not for too much)
K. Phillips
D. Hixon
K. Rivers
S. Locklear (only if he shows he can recover from that nasty injury though)
C. Blackburn
L. Tynes
J. Tryon (vet min, need to keep him on ST only, where he's very good)
S. Rogers
J. Cordle

The rest can scram...


I would include Boothe as a high priority

Toadofsteel
01-02-2013, 11:48 AM
I would include Boothe as a high priority

We need a new LG. Unless you want to cut Baas and make Boothe the new C or something... Boothe was far better at C than he ever was at LG. Right now he looks almost as bad as Diehl ever was in the position.

If it were up to me I would cut/let walk the entire O-line except for Beatty and maybe Locklear (depending on injury recovery), and draft exclusively O-line the first three rounds. Our pass protection was atrocious; when you need to max protect against a 4-man rush and Eli is still getting pressure on every other passing down, you're doing it wrong. A dominant pass protecting O-line would allow for Bennett/Robinson and Bradshaw/Brown/Wilson to run routes.

ryan12
01-02-2013, 11:49 AM
i think we need to resign cruz,brown,beatty,boothe,bennett,brown,chase hixon and tynes. also in corresponding moves cut canty c toast and diehl

BParcells777
01-02-2013, 12:01 PM
In my opnion the Herzlich project should be abandoned, he just does not see the field very well. Boothe Beatty and Blackburn need to be resigned
The rest can be replaced......of the UFA's

NYGfanNC
01-02-2013, 12:10 PM
I really hope Chase Blackburn stays. Mark Herzlich isn't ready.

Kruunch
01-02-2013, 12:22 PM
UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

T Will Beatty (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12610/will-beatty) -- Hard to find starting left tackles. Might be most important Giants free agent. Not sure how they handle this considering what starting LTs make. I'd think they'd re-sign him though.
DE Osi Umenyiora (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/4514/osi-umenyiora) -- Won't rule out return but sounds ready to move on (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21486/osi-now-is-probably-time-to-move-on). Yeah Osi's gone.
G Kevin Boothe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9762/kevin-boothe) -- Versatile and solid. Giants should bring him back. One of the easier signings (imo) unless someone jumps in to overpay him (doubtful).
TE Martellus Bennett (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11295/martellus-bennett) -- Should only get better but will another team offer more money? I don't think the Giants pony up ... so if he stays it will be because he wants to (i.e. he'll make more money elsewhere).
S Kenny Phillips (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11265/kenny-phillips) -- Would like to see him back but for right price. This is tough with the emergence of Stevie Brown and KP's injury history. I'd love to see him back but I don't see the Giants paying anywhere near Rolle-type money (and KP is worth more than Rolle imo).
LB Chase Blackburn (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9289/chase-blackburn) -- Solid vet is an asset but is NYG ready to go with Mark Herzlich (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14262/mark-herzlich)? Easy signing for depth if for no other reason. He won't command money, so no reason not to sign him. Whether he starts or not is the big question (I don't see Herzlich replacing him tho)
LB Keith Rivers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11243/keith-rivers) -- When healthy, showed glimpses of speed and athleticism. Can't stay on the field. Vet minimum imo.
K Lawrence Tynes (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3413/lawrence-tynes) -- Best NFL kicker until shaky finish. Should still be re-signed. Consistency says he'll be back.
DT Rocky Bernard (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3674/rocky-bernard) -- Cheap and reliable but Marvin Austin (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14025/marvin-austin) needs snaps. They were on the fence about re-signing him for this year ... after our sad dline performance I can see them letting him go.
WR Domenik Hixon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9716/domenik-hixon) -- Solid veteran provides depth and a punt returner. Sounds like he wants to stay and understands he won't be breaking the bank either.
TE Bear Pascoe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12548/bear-pascoe) -- Versatile and needed for blocking. I don't see any competition for his contract.
WR Ramses Barden (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12555/ramses-barden) -- Shined in start vs. CAR but didn't get many other opportunities. Gone.
QB David Carr (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3529/david-carr) -- Knows system and works well with Eli. Easy and cheap.
TE Travis Beckum (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12532/travis-beckum) -- Injuries hampered Giants career. Gone.
T Sean Locklear (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5609/sean-locklear) -- Great until suffering ugly knee injury. Despite popular opinion he wasn't better than DD and caused a boat load of penalties. Journeyman at best and will probably be gone if they have any faith whatsoever in their younger olinemen.
CB Justin Tryon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11361/justin-tryon) -- Invite to camp? Will fight for a roster spot and a minimum contract.
RB Kregg Lumpkin (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11766/kregg-lumpkin) -- Saw some third-down duties. AB, AB, DW ... room for one more.
RB Ryan Torain (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11362/ryan-torain) -- Didn't play much. Gone.
DT Shaun Rogers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2609/shaun-rogers) -- Blood clot kept him out of '12. Gone
CB Brian Witherspoon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11909/brian-witherspoon) -- Has to come back from another ACL tear. Gone

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

WR Victor Cruz (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13553/victor-cruz) -- Time to pay the salsa. Will sign big contract.
S Stevie Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13321/stevie-brown) -- The surprise of 2012 could be starting safety next season. Giants will put up a big tender (1st or 1st and 3rd) and make him duplicate 2012 before signing him.
RB Andre Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12490/andre-brown) -- On the mend after broken leg derailed best season. Brown will be back (flies through tenders (2nd or 3rd)) and will have to prove that he's still got the juice and that he can stay on the field.

EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS FREE AGENTS

DE Adrian Tracy (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13475/adrian-tracy) -- 'Yosi' (Young Osi) might see bigger role. I can see Tracy getting a bigger role in 2013.
C Jim Cordle (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13551/jim-cordle) -- Good for depth/special teams. Meh.
DE Justin Trattou (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14673/justin-trattou) -- Giants like his potential. Meh.

JJC7301
01-02-2013, 12:45 PM
UFA's that I'd like to see back at the right price:

Beatty
Boothe
Bennett
Phillips
Blackburn
Bernard
Pascoe (completely agree with Roanoke about his versatility)
Barden (would like to have seen him get more # 3 WR responsibility in '12 than Hixon because I thought that the Carolina game was his coming out party)
Carr
Locklear

drewz
01-02-2013, 02:29 PM
If Reese lets KP walk and have us stuck with Rolle smh

freeoscar
01-02-2013, 02:38 PM
I don't know what Rogers health situation is, but I think the Giants will bring him back (at least for tryouts). He was doing well before the clot, and lord knows the Giants could use a run-stuffer up the middle. I really thought he was going to have a big impact for the Giants.

G-Men Surg.
01-02-2013, 02:42 PM
High priority:
V. Cruz
S. Brown
A. Brown
W. Beatty
M. Bennett
A. Tracy

The rest that I would resign (but not for too much)
K. Phillips
D. Hixon
K. Rivers
S. Locklear (only if he shows he can recover from that nasty injury though)
C. Blackburn
L. Tynes
J. Tryon (vet min, need to keep him on ST only, where he's very good)
S. Rogers
J. Cordle

The rest can scram...
IMO Boothe is a must. Glad if Giants sign him to a 3 year deal. He is one of the must underrated players on the team and has play very very well , IMO he is starter material for the next 2 or 3 years.

NYG4lifeNYK
01-02-2013, 06:43 PM
Pos. Player FA Status
C Jim Cordle ERFA
CB Brian Witherspoon UFA
CB Bruce Johnson UFA
CB Justin Tryon UFA
DE Justin Trattou ERFA
DE Osi Umenyiora UFA
DT Rocky Bernard UFA
DT Shaun Rogers UFA
S Stevie Brown RFA
LB Adrian Tracy ERFA
LB Chase Blackburn UFA
LB Keith Rivers UFA
G Kevin Boothe UFA
T Sean Locklear UFA
T Will Beatty UFA
PK Lawrence Tynes UFA
QB David Carr UFA
RB Andre Brown RFA
RB Kregg Lumpkin UFA
RB Ryan Torain RFA
S Kenny Phillips UFA
TE Bear Pascoe RFA
TE Martellus Bennett UFA
TE Travis Beckum UFA
WR Domenik Hixon UFA
WR Ramses Barden UFA
WR Victor Cruz RFA


http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=462290

NYG4lifeNYK
01-02-2013, 06:50 PM
C Jim Cordle ERFA
CB Brian Witherspoon UFA
CB Bruce Johnson UFA
CB Justin Tryon UFA
DE Justin Trattou ERFA
DE Osi Umenyiora UFA - Reese LOVES Osi did you hear his recent Q&A? Probably gone though
DT Rocky Bernard UFA
DT Shaun Rogers UFA
S Stevie Brown RFA
LB Adrian Tracy ERFA
LB Chase Blackburn UFA - dirt cheap
LB Keith Rivers UFA
G Kevin Boothe UFA - could possibly over price himself
T Sean Locklear UFA - cheap
T Will Beatty UFA - ***priority*** won't come cheap
PK Lawrence Tynes UFA ***priority*** reasonable contract
QB David Carr UFA - dirt cheap
RB Andre Brown RFA
RB Kregg Lumpkin UFA
RB Ryan Torain RFA
S Kenny Phillips UFA - hopefully he takes a somewhat prove me contract, similar to Kiwi
TE Bear Pascoe RFA
TE Martellus Bennett UFA - ***Should be a HUGE priority*** The TE we have always wanted
TE Travis Beckum UFA - kick rocks...
WR Domenik Hixon UFA - Love Dom
WR Ramses Barden UFA - Goog luck on another team unless he comes cheap
WR Victor Cruz RFA ***Biggest priority***



Give or take a couple

laylow28
01-02-2013, 07:06 PM
Pos. Player FA Status
C Jim Cordle ERFA
CB Brian Witherspoon UFA
CB Bruce Johnson UFA
CB Justin Tryon UFA
DE Justin Trattou ERFA
DE Osi Umenyiora UFA
DT Rocky Bernard UFA
DT Shaun Rogers UFA
S Stevie Brown RFA
LB Adrian Tracy ERFA
LB Chase Blackburn UFA
LB Keith Rivers UFA
G Kevin Boothe UFA
T Sean Locklear UFA
T Will Beatty UFA
PK Lawrence Tynes UFA
QB David Carr UFARB Andre Brown RFA
RB Kregg Lumpkin UFA
RB Ryan Torain RFA
S Kenny Phillips UFA
TE Bear Pascoe RFA
TE Martellus Bennett UFA
TE Travis Beckum UFA
WR Domenik Hixon UFA
WR Ramses Barden UFA
WR Victor Cruz RFA


http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=462290 IMO these should be our priority resigns.

NYG4lifeNYK
01-02-2013, 07:08 PM
IMO these should be our priority resigns.
Cordle and Bear are priorities?

Huh?

And Cordle is an exclusive rights FA

He'll be back at the vet min


An Exclusive-Rights Free Agent is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only two years of NFL experience. If his former club makes him an offer at the three year veteran minimum salary, then that's it, he has to take it or leave the NFL. These guys have no right to negotiate with other teams. They are "free" only in the sense that they're free to quit.

RUN BRADSHAW
01-02-2013, 07:09 PM
Hixon over Barden? Have you lost your mind? Barden is like 6 inches taller than Hixon.

NYG4lifeNYK
01-02-2013, 07:10 PM
Hixon over Barden? Have you lost your mind? Barden is like 6 inches taller than Hixon.

SCREW BOTH OF THEM LET'S GET ANTHONY MIX BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

Toadofsteel
01-02-2013, 08:25 PM
Hixon over Barden? Have you lost your mind? Barden is like 6 inches taller than Hixon.

The thing is, Hixon can actually play WR...

RoanokeFan
01-02-2013, 08:42 PM
Hixon over Barden? Have you lost your mind? Barden is like 6 inches taller than Hixon.

And what has that height done for us in 4 years?

jomo
01-02-2013, 08:46 PM
Hixon over Barden? Have you lost your mind? Barden is like 6 inches taller than Hixon.And he's 8 inches taller than me and we both suck as NFL players lol.

eusebiomor
01-02-2013, 08:50 PM
Did you remember why is it Rocky Benard in the team? Because we let go Cofield, and he is playing playoffs right now LOL

NYG4lifeNYK
01-02-2013, 08:57 PM
The thing is, Hixon can actually play WR...

So can Barden, he's just not afforded the opportunity.

laylow28
01-02-2013, 09:15 PM
Cordle and Bear are priorities?

Huh?

And Cordle is an exclusive rights FA

He'll be back at the vet min


An Exclusive-Rights Free Agent is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only two years of NFL experience. If his former club makes him an offer at the three year veteran minimum salary, then that's it, he has to take it or leave the NFL. These guys have no right to negotiate with other teams. They are "free" only in the sense that they're free to quit. They are both decent backups and have played well for us. You can't overlook solid depth players.

jaxnygmen
01-02-2013, 09:17 PM
Resign: Beatty (moved to RT and get or draft a stud LT.), Osi- return at the right price or let go, Boothe-average at best and another OL can be found elsewhere, Bennett-resign, Phillips- resign at the right price- he is better than Rolle, Blackburn- can be let go, Rivers-resign at right price, tynes- can be let go, Bernard it is toss up, Hixon- toss up as well, Pascoe-resign, Barden-should have cut him last year, Carr- need a vet backup, Beckum-let go, Locklear- will he be ready for training camp?, Tryon-let go, Lumpkin-gone, Torrain-gone, Rogers-deserves a camp invite, Witherspoon- take a look in camp, resign all restricted FA, Exculsive FA-Bring back Tracey and Trattou

NYG4lifeNYK
01-02-2013, 09:20 PM
They are both decent backups and have played well for us. You can't overlook solid depth players.

Agreed but they are not even close to priorities, neither one of them. They are both easily replaceable.