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RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:02 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8796545/new-york-giants-final-2012-season-grades

Excerpt: "Tom Coughlin wanted to see which New York Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants) team would show up.
Would it be the one that went 7-7 in 2011 or the one that finished that magical year winning six do-or-die games to win the Super Bowl?The answer was not what Coughlin was hoping for. The 2012 Giants were unpredictable and not nearly as clutch as 2011's team, capable of dominating contenders like San Francisco and Green Bay only to completely vanish when Coughlin needed them to show up the most in Atlanta and Baltimore.They started the season 6-2 yet again but finished with a 9-7 record for a second straight year. The problem is 9-7 wasn't good enough this time to win the NFC East and get into the playoffs.Here's the 2012 final report card:
Giants position-by-position report card




C-

Quarterback

Eli Manning (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5526/eli-manning) directed an offense that scored the second-most points in franchise history and won nine games. But when the Giants needed to score the most, they couldn't with a total of 14 points in two losses at Atlanta and Baltimore. Manning followed up the best season of his career by failing to throw for 4,000 yards and 27 touchdowns for the first time since 2008. He set career highs with 510 yards against Tampa Bay, five touchdowns against Philadelphia and beat Washington with a 77-yard touchdown to Victor Cruz (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13553/victor-cruz). But he also had a three-game touchdown drought in the middle of the season -- the worst stretch since his rookie season, which sparked speculation of a tired arm -- and threw for one touchdown or none in 10 games this season. Manning wasn't as sharp as last season and the big play was often missing, but his production also suffered due to a hobbled Hakeem Nicks (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12586/hakeem-nicks), a lack of a third receiving threat and the Giants' 31st-ranked defense doing him no favors.




C+

Running backs

The Giants went from last in rushing in 2011 to 14th in 2012.Ahmad Bradshaw (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10693/ahmad-bradshaw) battled through various injuries and finished the season with 1,015 yards, the second most of his career, and six touchdowns. He had four 100-yard games, including a 200-yard performance against Cleveland. Rookie David Wilson (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14887/david-wilson)landed in the doghouse with a fumble on his second pro carry but finished with 358 yards and four touchdowns -- most of his production coming in the last four games. Andre Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12490/andre-brown) filled the Brandon Jacobs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8524/brandon-jacobs) role with 385 yards and eight touchdowns in just eight games of action until suffering a broken leg in Week 12. Fullback Henry Hynoski (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14608/henry-hynoski) emerged as a valuable blocker.




C

Wide receivers

Victor Cruz had a Pro Bowl season with 86 receptions, 1,092 yards and 10 touchdowns. He took a lot of shots over the season and could have benefited from a healthier Hakeem Nicks. Nicks gutted it out through the season with a knee injury and surgically repaired foot but his explosive burst was dearly missed and could've been the difference between making and missing the playoffs. There were too many games when Cruz and Nicks were held in check. Domenik Hixon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9716/domenik-hixon), Rueben Randle (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14911/rueben-randle)and Ramses Barden (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12555/ramses-barden) were not enough to replace Mario Manningham (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11329/mario-manningham).




B-

Tight ends

In his first season as a starter, Martellus Bennett (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11295/martellus-bennett) showed he can be a threat. He finished second in receiving with 55 receptions for 626 yards and five touchdowns and the Giants probably should've utilized him more. Bennett and Manning should only be able to improve with another year together if the Giants can re-sign the tight end. Bear Pascoe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12548/bear-pascoe) resumed his role as blocking tight end. Travis Beckum's season was marred by injuries and rookie Adrien Robinson (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14905/adrien-robinson) remains a project.




C+

Offensive line

The running game went from last in 2011 to 14th and Manning was sacked 19 times, down from 28 in 2011. The line battled injuries all season. RG Chris Snee (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5559/chris-snee) was hampered by a hip injury and C David Baas (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8447/david-baas) had to fight through shoulder and hip injuries. Will Beatty (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12610/will-beatty) started the last 14 games at LT despite missing much of the offseason with a back issue. T Sean Locklear (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5609/sean-locklear) was one of the best signings of the season, starting nine games before suffering a season-ending knee injury. RTDavid Diehl (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/4618/david-diehl) started nine games but missed three games due to an MCL injury. LG Kevin Boothe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9762/kevin-boothe) had a solid season as a full-time starter.




C-

Defensive line
The Giants saw their sacks total fall from 48 in 2011 to 33 -- their lowest since 2009. Jason Pierre-Paul (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13256/jason-pierre-paul) is heading to the Pro Bowl again, but his sack total dropped from 16.5 in 2011 to 6.5 this past season (although he did have a pick-six). Justin Tuck (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8488/justin-tuck), Osi Umenyiora (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/4514/osi-umenyiora) and Mathias Kiwanuka (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9618/mathias-kiwanuka) combined for a total of 13 sacks. The Giants didn't get enough pressure on quarterbacks and stopping the run was problematic all season. Big Blue finished 25th against the run. In his second season as a starter, DT Linval Joseph (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13281/linval-joseph) had 59 tackles and four sacks. DT Chris Canty (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8546/chris-canty) played in just nine games due to a knee injury. To be fair, the Giants' front line could've used more help from the linebackers/secondary and vice versa.




C-

Linebackers

Stopping the run was a problem as the Giants allowed 100 yards or more rushing in seven of their last eight games. Perry Fewell often shuffled his linebackers in and out to try different combinations. Michael Boley (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8574/michael-boley) finished second in tackles with 92 and had three interceptions, but saw his playing time dramatically reduced in the final two games. Chase Blackburn (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9289/chase-blackburn)was third in tackles with 98 and added three sacks while being mostly steady. Keith Rivers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11243/keith-rivers) flashed glimpses of his athleticism and speed, but he and Jacquian Williams (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14199/jacquian-williams) missed portions of the season with injuries. Spencer Paysinger (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14648/spencer-paysinger) and Mark Herzlich (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14262/mark-herzlich)saw increased snaps toward the end of the season.




C

SecondaryIt was an eye-opening down year for cornerback Corey Webster (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8457/corey-webster), who had to play with a broken hand early in the season but struggled to cover top receivers through much of the season. Prince Amukamara (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13975/prince-amukamara) was solid when healthy but he was able to start only 11 games due to injuries. Rookie Jayron Hosley (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14983/jayron-hosley) was thrown into action and struggled a little but gained valuable experience. Injuries hit the secondary hard as the team lost Terrell Thomas (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11297/terrell-thomas) and Michael Coe (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10616/michael-coe). Antrel Rolle (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8423/antrel-rolle) led the team in tackles for the second straight season with 96 . Stevie Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13321/stevie-brown) was the biggest surprise of the season with eight interceptions, the most by a Giant since Willie Williams had 10 in 1968. He racked up 307 interception return yards as well.Kenny Phillips (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11265/kenny-phillips) was able to play in only seven games due to a knee injury and the defense would've been a lot better with him healthy in the three-safety package. Will Hill (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/15621/will-hill) showed glimpses of his athleticism and was a good addition.



B+

Special teamsLawrence Tynes (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3413/lawrence-tynes) was probably the best kicker in the NFL until the final five games, when he missed three of seven field goal attempts. He made four or more field goals in four games this season. He had two costly missed field goals -- a 54-yarder at Philadelphia and a 43-yarder at Washington -- but finished with 145 points, the second-highest total in franchise history.Steve Weatherford (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10127/steve-weatherford) was rock solid. David Wilson was electric at times and added a new dimension with a team-record 1,533 kickoff return yards and a touchdown. Punt return continues to need a spark. The special-teams coverage team was steady all season and did not allow a touchdown on punts or kickoffs.



C-

Coaching

The 6-2 starts followed by a midseason swoon are becoming all too familiar. The no-shows in Atlanta and Baltimore were disturbing with so much on the line and it left Tom Coughlin completely mystified. But the two games Coughlin will want back are losses at Philadelphia and Washington by a combined three points. Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride oversaw an offense that scored 429 points, the second-highest total in franchise history. But the offense missed a healthy Hakeem Nicks, struggled in losses and too often settled for field goals. Defensive coordinator Perry Fewell's unit finished a disappointing 31st in total defense. The defense looked dominant against San Francisco and Green Bay but couldn't get enough critical stops against Pittsburgh and at Washington and completely vanished in Atlanta and Baltimore. Still, this coaching staff won it all a season ago and knows what it takes to get back.




B-

Front office

Jerry Reese passed on paying free agents like Mario Manningham and Brandon Jacobs and opted to go with younger, unproven talent like Rueben Randle, Ramses Barden, Andre Brown and David Wilson. These were the right moves, but the loss of Manningham hurt this season, especially with Hakeem Nicks banged up. Reese's staff did a great job in adding Martellus Bennett and finding gems like Stevie Brown and Sean Locklear in free agency. Reese's top three picks (Wilson, Randle and Jayron Hosley) in the draft saw playing time and Wilson improved the special teams. The Giants were thin at cornerback after losing Terrell Thomas. Still, the Giants had enough overall talent to make the playoffs but were just too inconsistent on the field.




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Bones911
01-03-2013, 07:23 PM
I read the article and agree with most of the commentary but I think the grades are a little harsh.

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:26 PM
I read the article and agree with most of the commentary but I think the grades are a little harsh.

Expectations were high

GentleGiant
01-03-2013, 07:31 PM
Eli shouldn't be a c-.

ShakeandBake
01-03-2013, 07:34 PM
C+ for the offensive line? I think they are more deserving of a D

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:34 PM
Eli shouldn't be a c-.

Why is that?

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:35 PM
C+ for the offensive line? I think they are more deserving of a D

I'm guessing the fewest sacks allowed got them there

ShakeandBake
01-03-2013, 07:37 PM
I'm guessing the fewest sacks allowed got them there

True, however I think that number is more a reflection of Eli's pocket presence rather than how our line performed.

GentleGiant
01-03-2013, 07:39 PM
Why is that?

He plays with injured WRs. He's carried the team for the most part.

Why should having only one star reciever whose gonna be double covered the whole time and a struggling o line affect him?

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:40 PM
True, however I think that number is more a reflection of Eli's pocket presence rather than how our line performed.

You have to admit that allowing the fewest sacks requires blocking though.

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:40 PM
He plays with injured WRs. He's carried the team for the most part.

A lot of QBs play with injured receivers. As for carrying the team, not so much this season.

ShakeandBake
01-03-2013, 07:44 PM
You have to admit that allowing the fewest sacks requires blocking though.

The only person on the offensive line that deserves a passing grade this year imo is Beatty. Snee can have a pass considering he was dealing with a torn hip labrum all season, but everyone else played below average.

GentleGiant
01-03-2013, 07:45 PM
A lot of QBs play with injured receivers. As for carrying the team, not so much this season.

Very few teams lose so many star recievers to the point where they only have ONE who gets double covered all the time.

Then who did carry the team more than him on offense? Bradshaw? No. Cruz? No.

Packers get hurt- bring in cobb and jones

Patriots get hurt- bring in welker, hernandez and the running game. Where was our running game?

Falcons get hurt- gonzalez, and jones.

Where were our guys stepping up?

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:47 PM
The only person on the offensive line that deserves a passing grade this year imo is Beatty. Snee can have a pass considering he was dealing with a torn hip labrum all season, but everyone else played below average.

I'd include Boothe

giants8493
01-03-2013, 07:48 PM
The only person on the offensive line that deserves a passing grade this year imo is Beatty. Snee can have a pass considering he was dealing with a torn hip labrum all season, but everyone else played below average. Didnt Baas play hurt too?

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:48 PM
Very few teams lose so many star recievers to the point where they only have ONE who gets double covered all the time.

Then who did carry the team more than him on offense? Bradshaw? No. Cruz? No.

Packers get hurt- bring in cobb and jones

Patriots get hurt- bring in welker, hernandez and the running game. Where was our running game?

Falcons get hurt- gonzalez, and jones.

Where were our guys stepping up?

Nobody carried the team this season, we were too inconsistent on both sides of the ball to crown anyone the "carrier"

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:49 PM
Didnt Baas play hurt too?

Baas was hurt most of the season after about the 4th game

ShakeandBake
01-03-2013, 07:51 PM
I'd include Boothe

I think Boothe is a serviceable backup, but I do not like him as a starter. He was pushed in to our backfield way too many times last year in the running game, but he seemed to get better as the season progressed, I'll give him that.

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 07:53 PM
I think Boothe is a serviceable backup, but I do not like him as a starter. He was pushed in to our backfield way too many times last year in the running game, but he seemed to get better as the season progressed, I'll give him that.

He's the 2nd highest rated offensive lineman per PFF

giants8493
01-03-2013, 07:54 PM
He's the 2nd highest rated offensive lineman per PFF In the NFL??? or the team?

ShakeandBake
01-03-2013, 07:56 PM
Didnt Baas play hurt too?

Baas seemed to have a new problem every week which just indicated a lack of toughness to me(wasn't he hurt last season too?) however I don't know the specifics when it comes to his injuries, where Snee had the same nagging hip injury all season long.

giants8493
01-03-2013, 08:02 PM
Baas seemed to have a new problem every week which just indicated a lack of toughness to me(wasn't he hurt last season too?) however I don't know the specifics when it comes to his injuries, where Snee had the same nagging hip injury all season long. Lack of toughness or injury prone. Either way I think he makes too much money.

ShakeandBake
01-03-2013, 08:03 PM
Lack of toughness or injury prone. Either way I think he makes too much money.

He most certainly makes too much, he shouldn't be starting either IMO

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 08:04 PM
In the NFL??? or the team?

On the team

giants8493
01-03-2013, 08:06 PM
On the teamThen who was first? Beatty?

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 08:07 PM
Then who was first? Beatty?

Yes

bigblue58
01-03-2013, 09:33 PM
A lot of QBs play with injured receivers. As for carrying the team, not so much this season.

Eli managed to throw for almost 4,000 yards despite receivers who don't know how to get open and who once again torpedoed Eli's stats with wrong run routes and a million dropped passes.......AGAIN!
You know what the real difference is between Eli and all the QB's who hit the 4,000 +yard mark? They have receivers who know how to consistently get open, never drop passes!

Toadofsteel
01-03-2013, 09:34 PM
Another BSPN special. Eli lowered his own sack count by himself, hurting his completion % and raising int count in the process...

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 09:36 PM
Eli was as bad as the D line........really? What drugs were they on when they gave out these grades? The Tight Ends got a better grade than Eli.....who was throwing them the friggin ball? I guess the million and one times Eli was hurried don't count because he wasn't sacked. These grades are f'king stupid.....nothing more to say.

Tight ends are also graded on blocking

NYG 5
01-03-2013, 10:09 PM
the letters are a bit harsh, i would give Eli a B-. he played well, not that many turnovers, but he couldn't carry a crappy team for a second straight year.

RoanokeFan
01-03-2013, 11:44 PM
Eli managed to throw for almost 4,000 yards despite receivers who don't know how to get open and who once again torpedoed Eli's stats with wrong run routes and a million dropped passes.......AGAIN!
You know what the real difference is between Eli and all the QB's who hit the 4,000 +yard mark? They have receivers who know how to consistently get open, never drop passes!

What receiver never dropped a pass?

bigblue58
01-04-2013, 09:51 AM
What receiver never dropped a pass?


Cmon man, don't be childish by jumping on that one sentence when you know damned well I meant "NEVER" dropped passes as compared to the frequency the Giants receivers dropped passes, I didn't mean NEVER literally as in not at all.
But If you're trying to say that opposing receivers, who are in the playoffs, or on bad teams that the Giants lost to, dropped passes with the regularity of Giants receivers,for big plays or to keep a drive going then you're just not being truthful with yourself!
Whenever an opponent needed a big play, they caught the ball, when the Giants needed big plays downfield, Giants receivers made drop after drop after drop!
OK sorry...I should have specified never drop passes when they needed a big play or a first down.
Hell you need only go back to the game day threads of every loss to read about all the drops by Giants receivers as they happened in real time.

RoanokeFan
01-04-2013, 10:02 AM
Cmon man, don't be childish by jumping on that one sentence when you know damned well I meant "NEVER" dropped passes as compared to the frequency the Giants receivers dropped passes, I didn't mean NEVER literally as in not at all.
But If you're trying to say that opposing receivers, who are in the playoffs, or on bad teams that the Giants lost to, dropped passes with the regularity of Giants receivers,for big plays or to keep a drive going then you're just not being truthful with yourself!
Whenever an opponent needed a big play, they caught the ball, when the Giants needed big plays downfield, Giants receivers made drop after drop after drop!
OK sorry...I should have specified never drop passes when they needed a big play or a first down.
Hell you need only go back to the game day threads of every loss to read about all the drops by Giants receivers as they happened in real time.


When you say NEVER on here, how are we to know you mean something else? People on here believe a lot of illogical things.

Ruttiger711
01-04-2013, 10:04 AM
Just like a total sack count being an overated stat for a D, so is the sacks allowed for the O-line.

Its all about the pressure and the Oline got pushed around plenty and gave up TONS of pressure. For them to give the Oline a higher grade than Eli is straight up Oscar Meyer Bologna!

bigblue58
01-04-2013, 10:29 AM
When you say NEVER on here, how are we to know you mean something else? People on here believe a lot of illogical things.

You're absolutely right, which is why I apologized for not being more specific.

bigblue58
01-04-2013, 10:31 AM
Just like a total sack count being an overated stat for a D, so is the sacks allowed for the O-line.

Its all about the pressure and the Oline got pushed around plenty and gave up TONS of pressure. For them to give the Oline a higher grade than Eli is straight up Oscar Meyer Bologna!

EXACTLY!!!! And a big +1