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Rudyy
01-04-2013, 10:14 PM
Who are your top 5 in...

OT'S

DE's

LB'S

CB'S

TheEnigma
01-04-2013, 10:26 PM
As of now? These are just my opinions and not an "official" ranking of any sort.

OT
1. Luke Joeckel
2. Eric Fisher
3. Taylor Lewan
4. Lane Johnson
5. D.J. Fluker

4-3 DE
1. Ezekiel Ansah
2. Alex Okafor
3. Tank Carradine
4. Bjoern Werner
5. Sam Montgomery

4-3 LBs
1. Manti Te'o
2. Barkevious Mingo (as a WLB/pass rush specialist)
3. Alexander Ogletree
4. Kevin Minter
5. Khaseem Greene

CBs
1. Dee Milliner
2. Johnathan Banks
3. Xavier Rhodes
4. Jordan Poyer
5. Desmond Trufant

myles2424
01-04-2013, 10:28 PM
Include DTs, were not exactly well off there..

Rudyy
01-04-2013, 11:14 PM
As of now? These are just my opinions and not an "official" ranking of any sort.

OT
1. Luke Joeckel
2. Eric Fisher
3. Taylor Lewan
4. Lane Johnson
5. D.J. Fluker

4-3 DE
1. Ezekiel Ansah
2. Alex Okafor
3. Tank Carradine
4. Bjoern Werner
5. Sam Montgomery

4-3 LBs
1. Manti Te'o
2. Barkevious Mingo (as a WLB/pass rush specialist)
3. Alexander Ogletree
4. Kevin Minter
5. Khaseem Greene

CBs
1. Dee Milliner
2. Johnathan Banks
3. Xavier Rhodes
4. Jordan Poyer
5. Desmond TrufantSome guy said we should take Alex Ogletree in the draft.

Buddy333
01-04-2013, 11:20 PM
Seen one mock that has the Giants taking Ansah.

alentown pa
01-04-2013, 11:21 PM
Seen one mock that has the Giants taking Ansah.

id be thrilled with him..Cb is a major need as well

Cloud57
01-04-2013, 11:27 PM
Seen one mock that has the Giants taking Ansah.good athlete but he doesn't look so good stopping the run

Carter.525
01-04-2013, 11:53 PM
OT: Joeckel - Lewan - Fisher - Lane Johnson - Fluker

DE: Werner - Moore - Jordan - Ansah - Mingo

LB: Te'o - Jarvis Jones - Ogletree - Minter - Arthur Brown

CB: Millner - Banks - Rhodes - Poyer - Amerson

brad
01-05-2013, 12:43 AM
Some guy said we should take Alex Ogletree in the draft.

At 19, Ogletree wouldn't be a bad pick IMO

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 01:09 AM
No part of me wants a LBer first round. Give me the top DE, or a big physically-imposing CB. I'd even take a highly-rated, mauling OT/OG over LBer.

GiantsFan27
01-05-2013, 01:13 AM
No part of me wants a LBer first round. Give me the top DE, or a big physically-imposing CB. I'd even take a highly-rated, mauling OT/OG over LBer.

I agree with this. im just not a fan of taking LB in round one. here's my top 4 though in no order.

CB

OT

DT

DE

Carter.525
01-05-2013, 01:43 AM
No part of me wants a LBer first round. Give me the top DE, or a big physically-imposing CB. I'd even take a highly-rated, mauling OT/OG over LBer.

same here.. I'd be good with DT Sheldon Richardson too

Giantsfan241
01-05-2013, 01:53 AM
LB #1 need for giants right now we need all pro lb so rg3 doesnt run all over us n the fast scat backs dont either its a speed league now we need speed n we have very slow lbs

Cloud57
01-05-2013, 02:21 AM
LB #1 need for giants right now we need all pro lb so rg3 doesnt run all over us n the fast scat backs dont either its a speed league now we need speed n we have very slow lbsyou're right but we need DE, CB, and OT probably in that order. If we don't take a LB in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round that means whoever is left isn't that good anyways. We could draft a LB in 2014.

gabriel_1
01-05-2013, 02:56 AM
I think we can get good value at LB in the second and third round with Kevin Red**** and Arthur Brown. I believe we can get one of these two players on the 2-3 round. NFL network said this is a week class for cornerback, so i can see the Giants takin either a DE or OT in the first. I think Fisher would be a very good pick, same with Ansah. Also like the Giants taking CB David Amerson in the second, he is big and physical, stands at 6-3 ft. and comes from the same school as Richard Sherman.

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 03:04 AM
I think we can get good value at LB in the second and third round with The problem is, is that almost every single year the Giants Message Board always predicts a top 3 round LBer, but the only thing that happens is he slips REALLY far.

Ali Highsmith, Micah Johnson, Erin Henderson, Vontaze Burfict, Quan Sturdivant are a few names that come off the top of my head.

As a whole, we're terrible LBer evaluators.

EnragedYouth85
01-05-2013, 03:09 AM
I would love to make a prediction but I'm not an expert at all, I'd love to see who they cut before I make a prediction but I'd say we need offensive and defensive line help. That's what our team is built off of. The offensive line to protect Eli and help with the run game and the defensive liine to create pressure.. I'd be happy with OL, DT or DE really...

gabriel_1
01-05-2013, 03:22 AM
I would love to make a prediction but I'm not an expert at all, I'd love to see who they cut before I make a prediction but I'd say we need offensive and defensive line help. That's what our team is built off of. The offensive line to protect Eli and help with the run game and the defensive liine to create pressure.. I'd be happy with OL, DT or DE really...

I feel DT is a need position, but I'm still not sold it's a required a first round pick. German boy, Markus Kuhn, can still develop I say we wait a little more, plus Linval has been pretty good for us.

Toadofsteel
01-05-2013, 03:29 AM
Here's an interesting thought... are there any top-flight centers in this year's draft class? If Locklear can return, OT won't be as big of a need (especially with Mosley ready to backup, we wouldn't need Diehl anymore). But Baas has been way underperforming ever since we got him. I've seen some specials that say that a good C is important on the O-line, as he is often also responsible for checking blocking assignments for the OL and dealing with any mismatches the D-line tries to create.

EnragedYouth85
01-05-2013, 03:31 AM
I feel DT is a need position, but I'm still not sold it's a required a first round pick. German boy, Markus Kuhn, can still develop I say we wait a little more, plus Linval has been pretty good for us.

We do have young talent at DT, Kuhn is coming back from an injury though. We have Joseph, Austin and Kuhn for your young guys and Bernard and Canty as our older guys. I couldnt say if we keep Bernard and Canty this upcoming season so we will have to see.

As for DE's we have Tuck, JPP, Osi, Tracey and Ojomo with a possibility of Kiwi. I think the only one going away this year is Osi, because Tuck is still under contract.

EnragedYouth85
01-05-2013, 03:32 AM
Here's an interesting thought... are there any top-flight centers in this year's draft class? If Locklear can return, OT won't be as big of a need (especially with Mosley ready to backup, we wouldn't need Diehl anymore). But Baas has been way underperforming ever since we got him. I've seen some specials that say that a good C is important on the O-line, as he is often also responsible for checking blocking assignments for the OL and dealing with any mismatches the D-line tries to create.

Baas did underperform this year but I think there is no way we are getting rid of him.. the cap hit would probably be huge and we have bigger priorities than Center..

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 03:32 AM
Here's an interesting thought... are there any top-flight centers in this year's draft class? If Locklear can return, OT won't be as big of a need (especially with Mosley ready to backup, we wouldn't need Diehl anymore). But Baas has been way underperforming ever since we got him. I've seen some specials that say that a good C is important on the O-line, as he is often also responsible for checking blocking assignments for the OL and dealing with any mismatches the D-line tries to create.Locklear was nothing more than a stop gap this year, so I doubt with knee rehab, and a year of age he will do anything but decline. RT is a huge need, and this is all under the assumption that we re-sign Beatty.

Toadofsteel
01-05-2013, 03:34 AM
Locklear was nothing more than a stop gap this year, so I doubt with knee rehab, and a year of age he will do anything but decline. RT is a huge need, and this is all under the assumption that we re-sign Beatty.

I think we have to get Beatty back. He's a higher priority than Cruz at this point for me... not by much, but still. Cruz may be a great receiver, but Beatty is the only good one on our entire offensive line...

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 03:35 AM
I think we have to get Beatty back. He's a higher priority than Cruz at this point for me... not by much, but still. Cruz may be a great receiver, but Beatty is the only good one on our entire offensive line...I wouldn't break the bank for Beatty by any stretch.

Toadofsteel
01-05-2013, 03:37 AM
I wouldn't break the bank for Beatty by any stretch.

It's either that or spend the entire draft on OL. Baas is terrible, Boothe is not much better, Diehl is done, and Snee not too far behind him...

EnragedYouth85
01-05-2013, 03:38 AM
It's either that or spend the entire draft on OL. Baas is terrible, Boothe is not much better, Diehl is done, and Snee not too far behind him...

I think as fans we need to start hooking on the corner to siffer money into the cap lol

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 03:40 AM
It's either that or spend the entire draft on OL. Baas is terrible, Boothe is not much better, Diehl is done, and Snee not too far behind him...And yet they've collectively given up the least amount of sacks in the league, and have improved in pressures allowed from their 2011 SB season.

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 03:41 AM
Not to mention about 18 slots higher in run game rank.

Toadofsteel
01-05-2013, 03:45 AM
Eli's pocket presence and renewed willingness to force a ball in bad situations (resulting in more picks) is what truly kept his sack count down. Also, they did a lot better when Locklear was playing than when Diehl was. I'd like to see their grade in just the games that Diehl started and played through.

As for the run game, I'm giving more credit to Hynocerous and Unicorn for making a lot of the big blocks we've needed in there, as well as having RBs in Brown and Wilson that aren't afraid to hit the hole when it does show up (as opposed to tip toe jacobs)

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 03:47 AM
Eli's pocket presence and renewed willingness to force a ball in bad situations (resulting in more picks) is what truly kept his sack count down. Also, they did a lot better when Locklear was playing than when Diehl was. I'd like to see their grade in just the games that Diehl started and played through.As for the run game, I'm giving more credit to Hynocerous and Unicorn for making a lot of the big blocks we've needed in there, as well as having RBs in Brown and Wilson that aren't afraid to hit the hole when it does show up (as opposed to tip toe jacobs)Explained renewed willingness to me, are you saying Eli wasn't willing to do that last year?

Toadofsteel
01-05-2013, 03:50 AM
Explained renewed willingness to me, are you saying Eli wasn't willing to do that last year?

In 2010 Eli led the league in picks. He worked on that in the offseason and in 2011 was more willing to take a sack than risk the errant throw being turned into a pick, especially with the then-unsure situation we had at WR (Nicks was banged up, Hixon went down for the season, we didn't yet know what we had in Cruz, and we had signed Brandon freaking Stokley to bolster our WR group).

One more year removed from that, and Eli started throwing early again, just to make sure the ball got out before he would otherwise get sacked.

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 03:56 AM
2011 was more willing to take a sack than risk the errant throw being turned into a pickThen why were we still top 8 in sacks allowed with only 28 given up?



One more year removed from that, and Eli started throwing early again, just to make sure the ball got out before he would otherwise get sacked.So why did Eli's interceptions go down from last year?

JB456
01-05-2013, 04:29 AM
Then why were we still top 8 in sacks allowed with only 28 given up?


So why did Eli's interceptions go down from last year?

So you believe the offensive line performed well this year? I personally thought it was terrible. They couldn't run block for shat and regardless of the sack total, Eli was under a lot of pressure and almost always seemed to have to get it off in under 3 seconds or take a sack. This team needs to make the offensive line a priority since Eli isn't mobile and this line can't run block.

Just thinking of another year of an aging Diehl makes me want to puke.

Diamondring
01-05-2013, 04:49 AM
We now have RGlll in our division and need guys to make him more of a ordinary qb. A good lb would be nice to have for those qbs who are able to move around like rbs or a good fb.

TheEnigma
01-05-2013, 04:55 AM
Include DTs, were not exactly well off there..

DTs
1. Star Lotulelei
2. Sheldon Richardson
3. John Jenkins
4. Shariff Floyd
5. John Hankins

myles2424
01-05-2013, 05:15 AM
DTs
1. Star Lotulelei
2. Sheldon Richardson
3. John Jenkins
4. Shariff Floyd
5. John Hankins
No short?

drewz
01-05-2013, 11:21 AM
If we're gonna take an OL position high in draft, it better at the G position.

gmen0820
01-05-2013, 12:27 PM
So you believe the offensive line performed well this year? I personally thought it was terrible. They couldn't run block for shat and regardless of the sack total, Eli was under a lot of pressure and almost always seemed to have to get it off in under 3 seconds or take a sack. This team needs to make the offensive line a priority since Eli isn't mobile and this line can't run block.

Just thinking of another year of an aging Diehl makes me want to puke.It has nothing to do with the whether the OL played good or bad from my perspective, that isn't what I'm commenting on.

We've won a SB with a worse OL, as recently as last year. With that said, it'd be nice to re-sign Beatty, but he is not the utmost highest priority like some have said. We aren't cornered in by Beatty, or in a position where we have to give in to his demands, and we certainly don't have to waste a whole draft on one unit if we don't get Beatty back.

And for the record, I wasn't necessarily impressed by our OL, but I was far more unimpressed with the play of our WRs which meant balls were being dropped, and man coverage wasn't being consistently beaten as it was in the past. With Nicks coming back healthy, and Cruz either returning with a new deal or a tender, and Randle continuing to develop (and possibly Jernigan, too), I think we'll be fine as an offense moving forward.

BlueReign
01-05-2013, 01:27 PM
First round I'd go OL/CB, 2nd DL (DE or DT) and 3rd I'd want to pick up an athletic MLB who can act as a spy when playing RGIII

EliIsTheBaas
01-05-2013, 02:13 PM
Can't remember the last time this team picked an offensive lineman in the first round. My bet is they take an end, probably ansah, Jordan or mingo depending if they fall. If they do take an OT or G I'd hope for the best available talent which will probably be fisher or warmack. I personally would love to get fluker in the 2nd round. His passion is so infectious.

paulj
01-05-2013, 07:20 PM
Here's an interesting thought... are there any top-flight centers in this year's draft class? If Locklear can return, OT won't be as big of a need (especially with Mosley ready to backup, we wouldn't need Diehl anymore). But Baas has been way underperforming ever since we got him. I've seen some specials that say that a good C is important on the O-line, as he is often also responsible for checking blocking assignments for the OL and dealing with any mismatches the D-line tries to create.

Honestly, I believe they may use Mosley at Guard, not at Tackle.
They have Brewer and McCants groomed for Tackle.
I think Locklear was serviceable at RT. I would rather draft an interior OL G/C mauler.

nycsportzfan
01-06-2013, 11:41 AM
Who are your top 5 in...

OT'S

DE's

LB'S

CB'S As many of my draft friends know, i make my own lists, and definetly don't go with the consensus, unless i truly agree with the consensus.. Last yr i had Casey Hayward as my 2nd ranked CB, and hes been freaking brilliant for the packers as a rookie, and so on and so fourth..etc

OT's.

1). Luke Joeckl OT Tex AM
2). Eric Fisher OT C.Michigan
3). Taylor Lewan OT Michigan
4). Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma
5). Brennan Williams OT UNC (i think he'll heal just fine, and is a stud RT prospect. Awesome blocker for Bernard).

DE's

1). Ez Ansah DE BYU
2). Bjorn Werner DE Fla St.
3). Alex Okafor DE Texas
4). Sam Montgomery DE LSU
5). Tank Carradine/John Simon Fla St/Ohio St.

LB's 4-3

1). Manti Te'O
2). Alec Ogletre Georgia
3). Khaseeme Greene Rutgers
4). Kevin Miner LSU
5). Arthur Brown K-State

CB's

1). Dee Milliner Bama- He just recently passed Poyer, who i think is a flat out stud!
2). Jordan Poyer Oregon St
3). Jonathan Banks Miss St.
4). Xavier Rhodes Florida St.
5). Micah Hyde Iowa St./ Logan Ryan Iowa/Rutgers

nycsportzfan
01-06-2013, 11:47 AM
DTs
1. Star Lotulelei
2. Sheldon Richardson
3. John Jenkins
4. Shariff Floyd
5. John Hankins Wow, no Kawaan Short? Hes really getting a raw deal from people .. I think Short is going in Rd 1 and hes a better prospect then Shariff Floyd for sure.. I think hes better then Sheldon Richardson to be honest...

1). Star L Utah
2). Kawaan Short Purdue- 6ft 3in 315lbs, 7sacks, 43tackles, 14.5TFL, 4passbroken up, 4blocked kicks, 1FF.. Doing it by himself as well!
3). Sheldon Richardson Mizzo
4). Jonathan Hankins Ohio St.
5). Sylvester Williams UNC

poppa smurph
01-06-2013, 11:06 PM
Honestly, I believe they may use Mosley at Guard, not at Tackle.
They have Brewer and McCants groomed for Tackle.
I think Locklear was serviceable at RT. I would rather draft an interior OL G/C mauler.Locklear's play was a bonus for this offense. I agree, Guard is the biggest need, and maybe the only need on O.