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RoanokeFan
01-11-2013, 09:38 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21761/five-giant-issues-eli-manning

Excerpt: "There were plenty of things that went wrong in the New York Giants’ title defense in 2012.

This week we are taking a look at five issues that kept the Giants from making it back to the playoffs one season after winning it all.

We’ve already looked at the pass rush (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21648/five-giant-issues-the-pass-rush), Corey Webster’s struggles (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21669/five-giant-issues-corey-webster), missing intangibles (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21687/five-giants-reasons-missing-intangibles) andHakeem Nicks’ injuries (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/21739/five-giant-issues-nicks-injuries). Today, we explore Eli Manning’s up and down season.

The numbers: Manning completed 59.9 percent of his passes for 3,948 yards, 26 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. Manning had a streak of three consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 yards, 27 touchdowns and 61 percent completion rate snapped in 2012.

The reasons: Manning set career-highs with 510 passing yards against Tampa Bay in Week 2 comeback win and five touchdowns against Philadelphia in the season finale. He also beat the Redskins in their first meeting with a 77-yard bomb to Victor Cruz (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13553/victor-cruz) for the win.

The Giants offense put up 429 points, the second-highest in franchise history, and scored 47 touchdowns for the second straight season. But the offense disappeared for stretches and the Giants often had to settle for too many field goals -- they kicked 33 field goals, 14 more than they did in 2011.

After having the best season of his career in 2011 with 4,933 yards and 29 touchdowns, Manning had 10 games in 2012 in which he threw for one touchdown or none at all.

The franchise quarterback passed for 300 yards or more in a game only three times and none after Week 7, which is very surprising. And Manning had a rare three-game stretch from Weeks 8-10 in which he failed to throw for a touchdown at all.

There were grumblings of a tired arm after seeing Manning go through the worst three-game stretch of his career since his rookie season. And when the Giants absolutely needed Manning at his best with a playoff spot on the line, Manning threw for a total of 311 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions in losses at Atlanta and Baltimore." Read more...

Buddy333
01-11-2013, 09:44 AM
As bad as all these numbers are and as bad as the numbers are all over the team it's amazing they went 9-7.

fizzlesticks
01-11-2013, 09:53 AM
Hate how some stats are just thrown around without any context. Sure he had a 59.9 completion percent but what would that be if he took the same amount of sacks as Rodgers instead of throwing the ball away? or without any drops?
And only passing for more than 300 yards 3 times? So what, he threw 5 TDs against the Eagle's and didn't break 300, must have been a bad game. Also when they have a good lead in the 4th Eli comes out of the game unlike Brees who's throwing bombs up by 20 with 2 minutes left.

easterbeast
01-11-2013, 10:27 AM
Hate how some stats are just thrown around without any context. Sure he had a 59.9 completion percent but what would that be if he took the same amount of sacks as Rodgers instead of throwing the ball away? or without any drops?
And only passing for more than 300 yards 3 times? So what, he threw 5 TDs against the Eagle's and didn't break 300, must have been a bad game. Also when they have a good lead in the 4th Eli comes out of the game unlike Brees who's throwing bombs up by 20 with 2 minutes left.

cant forget that nicks was playing hurt and not as effective most of the time

RoanokeFan
01-11-2013, 10:28 AM
Hate how some stats are just thrown around without any context. Sure he had a 59.9 completion percent but what would that be if he took the same amount of sacks as Rodgers instead of throwing the ball away? or without any drops?
And only passing for more than 300 yards 3 times? So what, he threw 5 TDs against the Eagle's and didn't break 300, must have been a bad game. Also when they have a good lead in the 4th Eli comes out of the game unlike Brees who's throwing bombs up by 20 with 2 minutes left.

Try not to look at it as a slam on Eli. The team dropped the ball, not Eli, not Diehl, not Gilbride, not Fewell., not Nicks, etc. Everyone has an opinion on what/who went wrong. This article is one of 5 written at ESPN giving their view of the situation.

Buddy333
01-11-2013, 10:31 AM
He had a bad year. He can rebound but stop making every excuse in the book for why he didn't play well this year.

EliDaMANning
01-11-2013, 10:41 AM
If Nicks isn't healthy next year and they still play him, then ownership needs to step in.

RoanokeFan
01-11-2013, 10:45 AM
If Nicks isn't healthy next year and they still play him, then ownership needs to step in.

How far away from Reese and Coughlin do you think John Mara is? He lets them run their respective shops, as any good CEO does. But to think he's not in touch would be underestimating him.

EliDaMANning
01-11-2013, 11:47 AM
How far away from Reese and Coughlin do you think John Mara is? He lets them run their respective shops, as any good CEO does. But to think he's not in touch would be underestimating him.Maybe it's just the coaches who decide to put Nicks in. If that's the case then Reese needs to step in and realize an injured Nicks is hurting the team.

RoanokeFan
01-11-2013, 12:13 PM
Maybe it's just the coaches who decide to put Nicks in. If that's the case then Reese needs to step in and realize an injured Nicks is hurting the team.

Reese, Coughlin, and Mara meet every Friday during the season to discuss the inactives. That's hard to do without talking about each player's condition.

GameTime
01-11-2013, 12:48 PM
last year the Giants were 9-7 the same this season. Scored the same amount of points and TDs.
The biggest issue was red zone offense or lack there of. Also too mnay picks by Eli. I am not going to get into the debate of receiver or QB.
If that is a product of the read and react offense then some changes have to be made.

RoanokeFan
01-11-2013, 12:50 PM
last year the Giants were 9-7 the same this season. Scored the same amount of points and TDs.
The biggest issue was red zone offense or lack there of. Also too mnay picks by Eli. I am not going to get into the debate of receiver or QB.
If that is a product of the read and react offense then some changes have to be made.

I think it's good that we didn't make the playoffs so the players understand you have to play for 60 minutes EVERY GAME

Rudyy
01-11-2013, 12:52 PM
I think it's good that we didn't make the playoffs so the players understand you have to play for 60 minutes EVERY GAMEBingo. While the SB is great, I think it kinda covered up some key holes in this team. Hopefully we address them all.

RoanokeFan
01-11-2013, 12:55 PM
Bingo. While the SB is great, I think it kinda covered up some key holes in this team. Hopefully we address them all.

I'm glad to see players like Rolle and Blackburn venting about what could have been. Ultimately, it's the players that win or lose in the trenches. The hrader it is for them to comprehend, the less likely they are to make the same mistakes.

AllHailEli
01-11-2013, 02:26 PM
Eli could not pull his 4th quarter comeback in at least two of the games and he had chances -- the Redskins and the Steelers games. The Eagles game, he was close but those two other games, he was stopped frustratingly so.

GCGiant
01-11-2013, 02:37 PM
I just can't understand why those S.O.B.'s can't win the SB every year...

giantsfan420
01-11-2013, 02:49 PM
I think it's good that we didn't make the playoffs so the players understand you have to play for 60 minutes EVERY GAMEwell said. hopefully this rings true with the players and coaches. i think it could be some good motivation going from SB and the bell of the ball to no playoffs and now ur jobs in jeopardy...this team better get their **** together.

RoanokeFan
01-11-2013, 02:57 PM
well said. hopefully this rings true with the players and coaches. i think it could be some good motivation going from SB and the bell of the ball to no playoffs and now ur jobs in jeopardy...this team better get their **** together.

+1

BuffyBlueII
01-11-2013, 04:44 PM
last year the Giants were 9-7 the same this season. Scored the same amount of points and TDs.
The biggest issue was red zone offense or lack there of. Also too mnay picks by Eli. I am not going to get into the debate of receiver or QB.
If that is a product of the read and react offense then some changes have to be made.

I agree. There are problems with the offense. Heck, just ask Assante Samuels, I am sure he can tell us all how easy our OC’s system is to predict.