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RoanokeFan
01-16-2013, 06:10 PM
http://www.giants101.com/2013/01/16/new-york-giants-keep-or-dump-michael-boley/

Excerpt: "Before the 2012 season, New York Giants (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/)' Michael Boley (http://www.giants101.com/tag/michael-boley/) was being heralded as the most complete linebacker on the roster, His ability to cover tight ends down the field, as well as provide run support made him an invaluable resource to Big Blue's 2011 Super Bowl (http://www.giants101.com/tag/super-bowl/) victory. However, just like the Giants 2012 campaign, Boley's season did not go as planned. After battling nagging injuries for much of the year, the eighth year veteran saw significantly reduced playing time in the final three games of the season.

Boley will enter the final year of his contract (http://www.giants101.com/tag/contract/) in 2013 at 31 years old. He's owed $4.25 million, which quite frankly, is not a bad price for a versatile weak-side linebacker. If the team believes Boley's shortcomings were due to something other than a declining skill-set, then this is less of a debate than many are making it out to be. However, with the Giants tight salary cap situation, the team may very well look to younger options to fill Boley's role on defense next season.

Spencer Paysinger (http://www.giants101.com/tag/spencer-paysinger/) has been a player that the Giants have liked ever since they signed him as an undrafted free agent (http://www.giants101.com/tag/free-agent/) out of Oregon two years ago. When Boley was on the sidelines during the stretch run of the 2012 season, Paysinger benefited most in terms of increased playing time. He has good size, above average athleticism and the ability to make tackles in the open field. It's unclear whether Paysinger's ready to take on full-time linebacker duties, but his emergence could allow the Giants to cut Boley loose and wipe out nearly their entire salary cap deficit in one shot.

Jacquian Williams (http://www.giants101.com/tag/jacquian-williams/) is another second year player who many thought would come out and have a strong 2012 campaign. However, he was plagued by a multitude of injuries that never allowed him to become a productive player on the defense. That said, Williams has experience starting on defense and has shown the athleticism to accomplish anything the coaching staff could ask of him. He has excellent size and his elite speed give him incredible range. He needs to bulk up a little bit over the offseason, but Williams is an athletic specimen that has the ability to develop into a mainstay on the Giants defense." Read more...

giantsfan420
01-16-2013, 06:40 PM
boley started out with an int the first 3 games iirc. it looked like he was gonna have an awesome season, and then it was like he just vanished. wasnt making any plays on the field.

i really have to question the hunger of some of these guys; boley, tuck, osi, webster...i mean those guys in particular were grossly underperforming, many instances, they were in somewhat good position but did nto have that hunger to make the play imo. dunno if im ready to quit on boley, but id keep an extra close eye on him and the depth players behind him. would paysinger be a downgrade from boley of the 2nd half of the season? he was hurt granted, but it seems hes always got some nagging injury.

Toadofsteel
01-16-2013, 06:43 PM
I think the fact that he had almost no snaps in the last 2 games is telling... either he got hurt somewhere along the line or he's declining.

Carter.525
01-16-2013, 06:43 PM
might be time for the Jacquian Williams era to begin at weak side LB.. hopefully he can stay healthy

RoanokeFan
01-16-2013, 06:45 PM
I think the fact that he had almost no snaps in the last 2 games is telling... either he got hurt somewhere along the line or he's declining.

He was dealing with hip and hamstring injuries

Toadofsteel
01-16-2013, 06:56 PM
He was dealing with hip and hamstring injuries

Do you think this is something that will be healed by camp or will he have nagging issues in 2013?

Cloud57
01-16-2013, 07:04 PM
Dump him

RoanokeFan
01-16-2013, 07:07 PM
Do you think this is something that will be healed by camp or will he have nagging issues in 2013?

The offseason can be enough time to heal those types of issues assuming surgery isn't required on his hip which has not been indicated that I know of.

slipknottin
01-16-2013, 07:09 PM
I still think J Will had all those injuries because he gained weight in the offseason. Hopefully he is better this year now that his body has had more time to adjust.

I think Boley is a goner, just because of how little they played him towards the end of the year.

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01-16-2013, 07:12 PM
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joemorrisforprez
01-16-2013, 07:58 PM
boley started out with an int the first 3 games iirc. it looked like he was gonna have an awesome season, and then it was like he just vanished. wasnt making any plays on the field.

i really have to question the hunger of some of these guys; boley, tuck, osi, webster...i mean those guys in particular were grossly underperforming, many instances, they were in somewhat good position but did nto have that hunger to make the play imo. dunno if im ready to quit on boley, but id keep an extra close eye on him and the depth players behind him. would paysinger be a downgrade from boley of the 2nd half of the season? he was hurt granted, but it seems hes always got some nagging injury.

I think that's a big part of it.

The coaching staff needs to light a competitive fire. I don't think many players should walk into 2013 thinking their job is safe, especially when they **** the bed v. the Falcons and Ravens.

NWKEffectElement
01-16-2013, 07:58 PM
Dump him

Giantslb66
01-16-2013, 08:52 PM
Discount Doublecheck his a^^ out of here!

jaxnygmen
01-16-2013, 09:02 PM
Never lived up to the expectation. No worth the money really and the decline in his minutes says it all.

myles2424
01-16-2013, 09:30 PM
Dump him...hes a easier replacment than tuck/osi or webster & I believe we can save $$

jomo
01-16-2013, 10:17 PM
Dump, we have other mediocre linebackers we can pay millions less to.

moosedrool
01-16-2013, 10:18 PM
Over 30....declining performance....dump him. This defense needs to get younger fast.

bearbryant
01-16-2013, 10:43 PM
Goodbye. We need to make smart moves and right now this team needs to watch the wallet whenever it opens

CowboysSuck
01-17-2013, 12:19 PM
Boley has been arguably our best LB for 6ish years. I do not think we will get rid of him. That would be foolish.

Especially considering this is a position that needs improvement. He is solid as a depth player at the very least. What goes through some of your minds?

Ruttiger711
01-17-2013, 01:36 PM
Keep - consider for defensive captain

bigblue58
01-17-2013, 02:00 PM
http://www.giants101.com/2013/01/16/new-york-giants-keep-or-dump-michael-boley/

Excerpt: "Before the 2012 season, New York Giants (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/)' Michael Boley (http://www.giants101.com/tag/michael-boley/) was being heralded as the most complete linebacker on the roster, His ability to cover tight ends down the field, as well as provide run support made him an invaluable resource to Big Blue's 2011 Super Bowl (http://www.giants101.com/tag/super-bowl/) victory. However, just like the Giants 2012 campaign, Boley's season did not go as planned. After battling nagging injuries for much of the year, the eighth year veteran saw significantly reduced playing time in the final three games of the season.

Boley will enter the final year of his contract (http://www.giants101.com/tag/contract/) in 2013 at 31 years old. He's owed $4.25 million, which quite frankly, is not a bad price for a versatile weak-side linebacker. If the team believes Boley's shortcomings were due to something other than a declining skill-set, then this is less of a debate than many are making it out to be. However, with the Giants tight salary cap situation, the team may very well look to younger options to fill Boley's role on defense next season.

Spencer Paysinger (http://www.giants101.com/tag/spencer-paysinger/) has been a player that the Giants have liked ever since they signed him as an undrafted free agent (http://www.giants101.com/tag/free-agent/) out of Oregon two years ago. When Boley was on the sidelines during the stretch run of the 2012 season, Paysinger benefited most in terms of increased playing time. He has good size, above average athleticism and the ability to make tackles in the open field. It's unclear whether Paysinger's ready to take on full-time linebacker duties, but his emergence could allow the Giants to cut Boley loose and wipe out nearly their entire salary cap deficit in one shot.

Jacquian Williams (http://www.giants101.com/tag/jacquian-williams/) is another second year player who many thought would come out and have a strong 2012 campaign. However, he was plagued by a multitude of injuries that never allowed him to become a productive player on the defense. That said, Williams has experience starting on defense and has shown the athleticism to accomplish anything the coaching staff could ask of him. He has excellent size and his elite speed give him incredible range. He needs to bulk up a little bit over the offseason, but Williams is an athletic specimen that has the ability to develop into a mainstay on the Giants defense." Read more...


Let's face it....he never came close as a Giant to being the terror he had been as an opponent! Thats the guy I thought we were getting, but we ended up with Boley Lite!

BlueSanta
01-17-2013, 02:00 PM
The last few games Boley's snap count was considerably diminished and Jwill's was increased. It could be a forshadow.

bigblue58
01-17-2013, 02:06 PM
The 2 most consistent Defensive players for the Giants this year was a guy we got off the couch and the other, a journeyman.........Blackburn and Stevie Brown!

shane4177
01-17-2013, 02:40 PM
The 2 most consistent Defensive players for the Giants this year was a guy we got off the couch and the other, a journeyman.........Blackburn and Stevie Brown!

AGREED.......Boley should stay, ditch Rivers....that guy can't stay on the field for even half the season!

JayMas9
01-17-2013, 02:46 PM
Boley has been arguably our best LB for 6ish years. I do not think we will get rid of him. That would be foolish.

Especially considering this is a position that needs improvement. He is solid as a depth player at the very least. What goes through some of your minds?You're not going to pay a depth player over 4mil for the season, unless he became a depth player during said season.

JayMas9
01-17-2013, 02:47 PM
I'm excited for the J Williams era. He's got all the tools to be a very good weakside backer and a linebacker capable of playing 3 downs.

G14ntzF4π
01-17-2013, 02:53 PM
Dump he is a walking mediocre injury waiting to happen

shane4177
01-17-2013, 03:06 PM
Another question to add on is........even if JWill replaces him, who is the future depth? If we move Kiwi back to the Dline, we will have lack of depth at the LBer position in general. Right now I see Chase/JWill/Paysinger and maybe Herz......thats only 3-4 deep on the depth chart. Maybe Kiwi stays at the hybrid role.......if we re-sign Rivers even for depth I would be ticked.